Ep. 675: MeatEater Radio Live! The Goosinator, Vintage Guns, and Movie Taxidermy

Hosts Spencer Neuharth, Randall Williams, and Cory Calkins get the lowdown on "The Goosinator," put One-Minute Fishing champ Pat Durkin back in the hot boat, play another game of MeatEater Radio's The Price is Right, and catch up with Joel Kolander of Rock Island Auction about a bevy of beautiful rifles. Watch the live stream on the MeatEater Podcast Network YouTube channel. https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterPodcastNetwork Connect with The MeatEater Podcast Network https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterPodcastNetwork MeatEater on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/meateater, Facebook https://www.facebook.com/StevenRinellaMeatEater/, Twitter https://twitter.com/MeatEaterTV?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor, and YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterPodcastNetwork See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:56Speaker 04

  Smell us now, lady. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia. Meat Eater Podcast.

• 2:17Speaker 05

  Welcome to Meat Eater Radio Live. It's 11 a.m. Mountain Time. That's 10 a.m. for our friends in Depot Bay, Oregon on Thursday, March 13th, and we're live from Meat Eater HQ in Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Spencer Newharth, joined today by Corey Calkins and Randall Williams. On today's show, we'll talk to Aaron McElrath about how an Alberta City hazes geese. Then we'll do one-minute fishing with American hero Pat Durkin. After that, we'll play The Price is Right. And finally, we'll talk to Joel Collender about some rare guns from the Rock Island Auction. Randall, I was jealous last week that you came up with the new bit of shouting out a time zone. What'd you do last week? Hungary?

• 2:57Speaker 06

  Hungary, our friend Mogor.

• 2:59Speaker 05

  So I was inspired by that. Plus, my favorite radio station growing up as a kid, Kicking Country, would have the South Dakota Town of the Day. So now I want to shout out little towns or places that I really like. And yeah, just give them a little nod. Today, Depot Bay, Oregon. I've been there twice. It's the whale-watching capital of Oregon. And the one time I saw some whales right from their dang main street.

• 3:20Speaker 06

  Hmm.

• 3:21Speaker 05

  Real fun.

• 3:22Speaker 06

  Fascinating.

• 3:23Speaker 05

  Phil, do you ever, you're like from that part of the world?

• 3:25Speaker 07

  Yeah, you know, my family used to go to Depot Bay every summer. And we would stay at the Surf Rider Inn just north of Depot Bay. The most violently ill I've ever been was on a whale-watching tour that went out of Depot Bay. Also, fun fact, not to kill a mockingbird, what's the?

• 3:41Speaker 06

  My side of the mountain?

• 3:42Speaker 07

  No, the mental institution.

• 3:45Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 3:47Speaker 07

  I'm getting my birds mixed up.

• 3:48Speaker 06

  Sorry, I thought you were talking about coming-of-age stories.

• 3:50Speaker 07

  When they go out on a boat on the ocean that was shot in Depot Bay.

• 3:54Speaker 05

  Oh, really? World's smallest navigable harbor. I think they

• 3:58Speaker 07

  I think so.

• 3:59Speaker 05

  They coin themselves out. Shout out Depot Bay. Love your little town you got there. Corey, Randall, what you boys been up to lately?

• 4:07Speaker 05

  Not much.

• 4:08Speaker 06

  Well, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to insert myself here, but it's been a good week for, uh, Randall.

• 4:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, that has. Yeah, now we can acknowledge.

• 4:17Speaker 06

  I want to, there's an elephant in the room here.

• 4:19Speaker 05

  Twenty twenty four Meat Eater Trivia Champion.

• 4:22Speaker 06

  And I see the support in the chat. I love it. We're, uh, we'll be working on that Randomal shirt. It might be like a twenty twenty eight, twenty nine project.

• 4:30Speaker 07

  Uh, we, Dylan's asking for some clarification. Is it Randomals with an I or Randomals with an A? And I, my, I've got a second point of clarification. Is it Randallmals? That's a little, that's kind of a mouthful, but to me it makes more sense. I don't know.

• 4:41Speaker 06

  I envisioned, uh, Randomals with an I, like Rand, Rand Animals. It should have been the Rand Animals.

• 4:48Speaker 05

  Animal. Okay, next time you win. Corey, what you been up to lately besides, uh, you know, patting Randall on the back over here for winning the title?

• 4:56Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, congrats, buddy. Uh, well deserved. Uh, you know, we just wrapped up a couple of days with, uh, Taylor and Will from Bussin' with the Boys. You guys have ever heard of them?

• 5:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, I've seen those tall fellers.

• 5:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, they are tall.

• 5:08Speaker 06

  Will's not that tall, is he?

• 5:10Speaker 05

  I mean, compared to the regular folks in the Meat Eater office, yeah.

• 5:14Speaker 06

  Okay, yeah, I guess it's just that he hangs out.

• 5:16Speaker 05

  How tall are you, Randall?

• 5:17Speaker 06

  I call myself six two, but posture wise, probably five eleven.

• 5:21Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 5:21Speaker 03

  Hunched.

• 5:22Speaker 06

  But when you say you're two hundred fifty pounds, five eleven, it gives off a very different impression. So I go six two.

• 5:27Speaker 05

  Yeah. So you showing those boys around Montana while they're here?

• 5:30Speaker 03

  Well, a little bit. Uh, yeah, we had them out at the gun range, getting prepped and ready for a coyote hunt. They went out with Steve. Was that yesterday morning?

• 5:37Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 5:38Speaker 03

  Uh, it was quite a whirlwind while they were here. Oh, here's some good shots. And they went coyote hunting and beaver trapping with Steve yesterday. Uh, very successful on the beavers. They killed a pile of muskrats as well while they were out there.

• 5:51Speaker 05

  I can smell it in the office still.

• 5:53Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 5:53Speaker 05

  Soon as I walked in.

• 5:55Speaker 03

  I tried spraying the Poopery scent helper in here. It didn't, didn't really do it. But yeah, there's a good photo of, uh, Cal there showing him, uh, the works on some cig. rifles there's Steve flesh in a beaver looks like uh but yeah showed those guys a great time they got to get their hands dirty didn't kill any coyotes I heard shots were fired but no dogs were harmed in the making of this uh fun time we had but Steve will be on their podcast next week so uh listen for that and then there'll be some fun video content following that not sure when but in the near future so keep an eye out for that

• 6:32Speaker 05

  if you want more content with Steve and me Dieter the Boston channel is gonna have that soon alright let's go to our first interview joining us on the line now are two employees from the city of Lethbridge Alberta who have a unique way of keeping geese off their lakes Erin and Nelson welcome to the show

• 6:50Speaker 06

  hi thanks for having us

• 6:51Speaker 05

  yeah thanks for having us first thing tell us where you're standing right now

• 6:56Speaker 06

  okay we are at the beautiful Henderson Lake um it's one of our premier parks in Lethbridge um it's one of my favorites because I've had the opportunity working for many years it has walking paths throughout the whole park and a beautiful body of water historically there's been a dance hall and basically it's a hub of activity winter and summer in Lethbridge

• 7:18Speaker 05

  alright now tell us about the goose problem that your city parks have

• 7:24Speaker 06

  okay so uh we have some resident geese that have decided they love living in Lethbridge and they don't want to fly south like the rest of their friends do so the goose problems are basically um we want to make sure that we keep our waterfalls safe and so we'd like them to keep moving on um we want to keep people safe we use the parks there can be human goose conflict as well as um with people's pets so we don't want that to happen

• 7:53Speaker 06

  we also want to make sure that we reduce the fecal matter in the park so one goose can poop up to two pounds in a day that's a lot of poop

• 8:01Speaker 05

  my goodness

• 8:02Speaker 06

  uh we have kids in the park and a lot of activity so we want to try to keep our pathways clean and free of that poop uh and then just making sure that we protect Our assets and our turfs, so when geese feed, they can pull the roots of the grass out and that can cause long-term damages to our turfs. So, yeah, it's a multifaceted issue.

• 8:25Speaker 05

  And in the past, what did you guys try to keep these geese off your lakes and parks?

• 8:32Speaker 06

  Well, at one point in time, we had employees go out with a dog. Um, they went out to try to deter the geese from being in the park. But then it would just make the geese go on to the lake and we couldn't do anything about that. Um, we've done some, um, egg management with a damage danger permit, which is a federal permit. Um, and we really like, we've communicated a lot with the federal government under the goose management plan and just trying to make really good decisions about how to manage the population. Uh, but it's really tough because, uh, basically they have a really, uh, perfect environment to live here. It's, it's safe. There's really no predators here and there's water, there's an island, so it's really tough to manage the geese here.

• 9:18Speaker 05

  And that brings us to why we're talking to you today. Tell us about how you decided to try to solve that problem this year.

• 9:26Speaker 06

  Well, I've wanted the gooseinator for a really long time. Uh, I kind of was researching, um, best management practices and this came up as a hazing device. So just trying to make, uh, the area less popular for the geese. And when I saw this working, I was just amazed by the fact that it could work on the grass, um, on ice as well as in the water. So when we got the go and had to purchase it, uh, we decided that we should get Nelson, who's now in charge of the goose management program, to get good at operating it. I kind of missed my chance to be the operator by a year or two.

• 10:04Speaker 05

  Yeah. So we are looking at photos right now of what is called the gooseinator. Uh, it is a large, bright orange styrofoam, uh, like an RC car looking thing with a couple of, uh, a couple of tracks underneath it and it's got big eyes and big mean teeth on it. Yeah, terrifying. That's what they're telling us about is the gooseinator. How much did the gooseinator cost?

• 10:29Speaker 05

  Around four thousand dollars. Okay, four thousand dollars. Alright, I want to talk to Nelson for a bit. Nelson is the one who operates the Goose Nator. Nelson, what's it like to drive that thing?

• 10:41Speaker 04

  It's fairly easy. I got the remote right here. It's just like any normal trigger operated remote control. It slides a lot better on the ice and the water than it is on land. It actually has some wheels that you can attach to it while you're using it on land, but primarily we've been using it on the water and the ice.

• 11:00Speaker 05

  Okay, and what's your strategy for scaring away the geese with the Goose Nator? Do you drive it like right into the flock?

• 11:08Speaker 04

  No, actually that's part of like learning how to use it and especially a lot of communication from the manufacturer and the designer about how to use it properly. It's meant to look like a predator, so you're supposed to operate it like stalking the geese, really slow movements, and you're basically trying to herd them out. The more that fly away at once, the better of them not coming back.

• 11:33Speaker 05

  And how did the geese?

• 11:35Speaker 04

  Repetitive usage of it is key too, so using it all the time to the point where they recognize the truck and it coming out of the truck, they start getting a little frantic when I show up.

• 11:48Speaker 05

  Okay, so the reaction the geese have, they just want to leave when they see that thing?

• 11:53Speaker 04

  Yes, it's meant to look like a predator and act as a predator. It's meant to make them feel like the area is unsafe.

• 12:00Speaker 05

  And how do people react to seeing you use the Goose Nator? Like have the cops been called on you yet?

• 12:07Speaker 04

  No, at first like we, I think we did a good job with preparing the public of its use, especially with, like Aaron said, communication with the federal government. It's in our goose management program even before we had bought it, we had started talking about using one. And just being prepared for the feedback that we're gonna get on it really helped out. And while I've been using it, there's a lot of people that come here to look at the birds and stuff like that. So they're quite knowledgeable about why we're using it and just being able to talk to them about it has helped out immensely. And for the most part, the feedback's been pretty good, like very positive, a lot more than I anticipated, actually.

• 12:48Speaker 04

  But uh, yeah, we haven't really had any complaints from local cops. The federal permitting officer did get some emails and calls and. But he already knew about us using it because we've gone through the proper.

• 13:03Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 13:04Speaker 04

  And bounds.

• 13:05Speaker 05

  Big question then, can we see the gooseinator in action?

• 13:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, you can. Um, I got it right behind me on the truck here. Um, I'll plug the battery in. Obviously, there's no ice here anymore, but there is an island behind me that they uh, tend to nest at. So I'll just cruise by the island and. That's what we'll be using it for in the spring until they actually start uh. Nesting with eggs and molting and stuff like that, then we can't use it, we'll pull the usage of it.

• 13:34Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 13:36Speaker 04

  We'll be using it to try and keep them from nesting on this island.

• 13:40Speaker 05

  Perfect. Let's see that thing in action. Now Nelson has kept it hidden in the back of his truck because he said. Usually uh, like seeing his pickup is enough, but seeing the gooseinator especially will get the geese to start to lift off. He is grabbing the giant RC boat. Uh, that thing is is quite enormous. And he is now taking it to the water. We could hear the geese the entire interview. Um, so I'm optimistic that Nelson's gonna put on a show for us here.

• 14:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, look at that thing. That's straight up nightmare fuel if you were a goose.

• 14:11Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 14:11Speaker 06

  It's running, it's it's got a prop on the front.

• 14:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 14:15Speaker 06

  Understandably.

• 14:16Speaker 05

  Wow, okay, here he goes. And the geese are leaving.

• 14:21Speaker 06

  Look at the ones in the background.

• 14:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, so you can see this happening on our YouTube channel. Uh, the geese have taken off at this point. Nelson's only got the gooseinator about twenty yards from shore. Uh, smooth operator we've got here.

• 14:37Speaker 06

  That's unbelievable.

• 14:38Speaker 03

  Need some jaws.

• 14:39Speaker 06

  Theme music going.

• 14:40Speaker 05

  There they go.

• 14:40Speaker 06

  There you go, a couple from the island itself.

• 14:42Speaker 05

  Off. The cool thing about the Goose Nator is it can drive on ice, land, and water. This thing is uh like even more amphibious than amphibian vehicles because it can also go on the ice.

• 14:55Speaker 06

  It's got a couple stragglers there.

• 14:57Speaker 05

  Uh huh.

• 14:58Speaker 06

  Oh, I love this. Couple stubborn geese.

• 15:00Speaker 05

  And the, the person who makes the Goose Nator, that it looks like now a lot of cities and golf courses use, uh, they wanted this thing to look very offensive, so they might have made it bright orange. Uh, cameraman, can we punch in on the Goose Nator a little bit? Is that, is that an option for us? We'd love to see these geese.

• 15:17Speaker 07

  I don't know, uh, I'm gonna speak for him. I don't know if you can pinch zoom on the, uh, StreamYard app here. If not, that's okay.

• 15:25Speaker 05

  Alright.

• 15:25Speaker 06

  It's still thrilling even at this distance. Yeah, you can see it.

• 15:28Speaker 05

  That you can see that Goose Nator from a long ways away. Oh, it's picking up speed.

• 15:33Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 15:35Speaker 06

  Oh, it's got some zip to it.

• 15:37Speaker 07

  Wow, that's great.

• 15:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 15:39Speaker 06

  Here it comes. This is the goose's perspective here as it circles in.

• 15:44Speaker 05

  Uh, Nelson, tell us a little more about what the geese are doing right now. Uh, we can't quite see too far off in the distance as to what's happening.

• 15:52Speaker 04

  So basically everything on this side of it, all the geese have left the island. Like even the sound of the Goose Nator, like we can't, we hear a different pitch than the geese actually do. And the sound of the Goose Nator itself is actually very terrifying to them.

• 16:06Speaker 05

  Uh huh.

• 16:06Speaker 04

  Like two different colors. They actually see more colors than us too. And the whole design of it is meant, there are characteristics that geese dislike. Uh, on the website, it quotes Cornell University with this study, the characteristics and traits that geese dislike. And that's basically what he based his design off of. The big teeth, the eyes, the slicked back ears, um, the color orange and the reflective color itself. These are all things that the geese don't like to see.

• 16:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's uh, that's enough to scare me off too. Can we see that thing at top speed, Nelson? Can you, can you ramp it up for us?

• 16:41Speaker 06

  Give her a rip.

• 16:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'll, I'll go out and then I'll bring it back.

• 16:45Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 16:46Speaker 04

  Cause like the whole, if we were not, yeah.

• 16:50Speaker 05

  Oh my goodness.

• 16:52Speaker 06

  It's rooster tailing.

• 16:54Speaker 05

  Very impressive.

• 16:58Speaker 05

  Oh yeah. Wow. What a beast.

• 17:03Speaker 05

  Goose, you are not welcome in the city of Lethbridge. Alright, that was a, that was a real treat, Aaron and Nelson. Thanks for joining us and uh, good luck. Good luck with the goose hazing program. Uh, we're cheering for you guys.

• 17:17Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 17:18Speaker 04

  Awesome. Thanks for having us.

• 17:19Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 17:21Speaker 06

  Fun little fact about Randall.

• 17:23Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 17:24Speaker 06

  Which makes me uh, a real advocate for their cause. When I was uh, too young to even remember this incident.

• 17:31Speaker 05

  Uh huh.

• 17:32Speaker 06

  I was uh, at, I believe at the National Zoo in Washington DC.

• 17:36Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 17:37Speaker 06

  Uh, been told, and a Canadian goose bit me on the foot.

• 17:40Speaker 05

  Hmm.

• 17:41Speaker 06

  And broke my toe.

• 17:42Speaker 05

  Whoa. Broke your toe?

• 17:43Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah.

• 17:44Speaker 05

  You think the goose broke your toe or like, did you?

• 17:46Speaker 06

  Little baby, little baby toes Spencer. Like I said, they're tiny. That's what I'm told.

• 17:50Speaker 05

  Okay. By who?

• 17:52Speaker 06

  My parents.

• 17:53Speaker 05

  Uh huh.

• 17:53Speaker 06

  It's a, it maybe explains some of my idiosyncrasies around birds.

• 17:59Speaker 05

  Uh huh.

• 18:00Speaker 06

  If I, if I get into the dark recesses of my mind.

• 18:03Speaker 05

  They needed a gooseinator.

• 18:04Speaker 06

  I know, I know. So I, I appreciate they're trying to avoid goose public conflict.

• 18:09Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm. Alright, moving on, our next segment is one minute fishing. Do I feel lucky? Well, do you, punk? Go ahead. Make my cast. One minute fishing is where we go live to someone who's fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish. And if they're successful, we'll make a $500 donation to a conservation group. This week, our angler is American legend and one minute fishing legend, Pat Durkin in Wisconsin. And he's fishing for a donation to the Clear Water Chapter of Trout Unlimited. Pat, welcome to the show.

• 18:47Speaker 04

  Hey Spencer, thanks for having me on.

• 18:49Speaker 05

  Pat uh, was very motivated to make this work for us today. Uh, he was scouting some fishing spots earlier this week. Uh, and if the weather had been a little colder, he'd be standing on ice right now. Uh, but instead it's warmed up and he's, he's sitting in a boat.

• 19:05Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 19:06Speaker 05

  Pat, tell, tell us about the boat that you're in, Pat.

• 19:09Speaker 07

  Um, this is my, um, it's a fourteen foot, three inch cedar strip rowboat I built. Um, I lost it nineteen years ago in June. Took me about two and a half years to build and it's been my pride and joy ever since. And as, as I've written about in my newspaper, Kyle Spencer, um, I always advise young men, if they want to meet women, this is what they need.

• 19:33Speaker 05

  Is, is a, is a boat?

• 19:37Speaker 06

  A rowboat.

• 19:38Speaker 07

  A cedar strip rowboat, not just any boat, you gotta have a cedar stripper.

• 19:42Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 19:42Speaker 07

  Cause, uh, I pulled this boat into a gas station, into a fast food restaurant, whatever it is, and women always walk over and talk to me.

• 19:51Speaker 05

  Mmm.

• 19:51Speaker 07

  It's just really a chick magnet.

• 19:53Speaker 05

  Okay, uh, what about men? Do they show interest in the boat as well? Say, say you're, uh, you're female seeking male companionship, would it do the same thing?

• 20:01Speaker 07

  That's, that's a great question. The, um, distinction I've noticed is that it's, it primarily attracts old guys.

• 20:09Speaker 05

  Oh, okay, yeah.

• 20:11Speaker 07

  So, so my wife likes it because when I leave here at the pier to hold on the boat while I go get the truck, all the old guys come over and they, it gives them the pretense of talking to her.

• 20:21Speaker 05

  Uh.

• 20:21Speaker 07

  So. But, but it's not, it's really, uh, I, I, um, I built it for musky road trolling. And then I found that, um, I'm not really much, much a musky fisherman, cause you know, it's the guilt trip you, if you eat one.

• 20:35Speaker 05

  Mmm.

• 20:35Speaker 07

  So I pretty much be turned into a pan fishing machine.

• 20:39Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 20:40Speaker 06

  Cool.

• 20:40Speaker 05

  Now, uh, this is the maiden voyage of your boat in twenty twenty-five, correct?

• 20:45Speaker 07

  Correct, correct, yeah, I, it's, it's first time on the water this year.

• 20:49Speaker 05

  Okay, and how's the fishing been today so far?

• 20:51Speaker 07

  It's been, been pretty lousy. I, um, you know, I'm blaming mother nature because like you said in the intro, I wanted to be up on, um, on Lake Altoona, which is north of me a little ways, where the perch were biting just on Sunday for me. And I was all gassed up about, you know, keeping my string intact for, um, two straight appearances, you know, on, on women at fishing and catching a fish. And then it's gotten so warm since then, I didn't want to hazard, um, take the risk of going out there and punching through and, um, dying prematurely, you know, so.

• 21:24Speaker 05

  Pat, this is like major league baseball, if you're batting five hundred, you're, you're ahead of the game, so don't worry about that.

• 21:32Speaker 07

  Those are Hall of Fame numbers. Thank you, Randall.

• 21:33Speaker 06

  Yes, sir.

• 21:34Speaker 05

  All right, Pat, so what are we, what are we fishing for today?

• 21:37Speaker 07

  Okay, well, the goal was to come out here, I'm a little bit early for the river, but usually this is a good section of river I'm on for, um, for perch. When they start spawning in usually mid to late March, they'll, they'll, it'll be pretty thick in this river, the Chippewa River that I'm on. And also, um, you'll catch walleyes in here and some guys, it's really a good fishery for, uh, smallmouth bass. But, um, I primarily come here for, for perch and walleyes, so.

• 22:05Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 22:05Speaker 07

  I'm trying it and I, I have some guys down the river from me a little ways, they pulled a couple of fish in, but I can't quite figure out what they're fishing for.

• 22:13Speaker 05

  Hmm, and it looks like, uh, you're jigging this afternoon, correct?

• 22:17Speaker 07

  I, I've got, um, I got one line, this is Wisconsin, so everyone who's gonna play the game warden on me, you can, you can use three lines in Wisconsin, so I got one out with a crappie minnow, birch minnow on. I got one with a bigger, um, walleye shine around. And I'm casting a little, um, little, um, crank bait, a little, uh, rapala, so. That stuff I figured I'd, I'd use for, um, for my one minute attempt here.

• 22:43Speaker 05

  Okay, everything but the kitchen sink, Pat is using today. All right, Pat, your one minute of fishing starts as soon as you make that first cast.

• 22:51Speaker 07

  All right, here we go.

• 22:54Speaker 06

  Get him, Pat.

• 22:55Speaker 07

  I'm casting out in, casting out into the stronger current and bringing it back along, uh, the little, where it's a little more, uh, protected water.

• 23:03Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 23:04Speaker 07

  And this, this particular, um, X wrap, I think it is, I give it a little twitch right now and then. And I've caught everything from, um, big crappies to big perch on, but mainly walleyes.

• 23:17Speaker 05

  Well, you are twenty-five seconds into your one minute. Is, uh, is this the same rod that you used in Idaho to be the first successful angler of one minute fishing?

• 23:26Speaker 07

  Right, it is, it is, that's why, that's why it's in my, in my hand right now.

• 23:31Speaker 05

  Okay, you got twenty seconds to go, Pat.

• 23:33Speaker 06

  Got some good mojo with that rod.

• 23:37Speaker 07

  All the suspense is killing me.

• 23:39Speaker 06

  I know, we, we had, we had a great video with Pat right before. He started decast and now it's a little, little spotty.

• 23:44Speaker 07

  Oh, is it really? It's gotten, gotten bad?

• 23:47Speaker 05

  Five seconds, Pat.

• 23:48Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 23:49Speaker 05

  Crank it.

• 23:51Speaker 05

  Well, it did not happen today for Pat. But you know what they say, Pat, a bad day of fishing is better than a good day of being a freelance writer in Wisconsin. Isn't that right?

• 24:05Speaker 07

  Well, that's my purpose though. You know, I, I heard this morning Spencer that, um, you know, I'm almost seven, I'll be seven years old in January. And I heard this morning that, um, Andy Rooney, you know, the great, um, 60 Minutes commentator and journalist. He lived into his, um, late eighties, early nineties. And he, um, he lost his job and a week later he died. So he lost his, basically lost his purpose and he was gone. So I, I figured I better keep working a while.

• 24:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, don't quit right.

• 24:35Speaker 06

  Keep those fingers spry, Pat.

• 24:38Speaker 07

  Right.

• 24:38Speaker 05

  A beautiful boat though, that he's sitting in. I think we'll see that boat again on One Minute Fishing. Thanks for joining us, Pat. Have a good day.

• 24:45Speaker 06

  Good to see you, Pat. Thank you.

• 24:45Speaker 05

  Take care, Pat. Sounded like he needed that gooseinator back there, you know? He's gonna like waterfowl over the top of him. Yeah.

• 24:52Speaker 06

  Geese are moving the day, boys.

• 24:54Speaker 05

  We have our third guest coming up later. He's going to talk to us about some rare guns from the Rock Island Auction. If we hear geese in his background, we really got problems at that point. That'd be weird.

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• 27:59Speaker 05

  All right, Phil, let's take a break for some listener feedback. What's the chat have to say? Yeah, just a reminder, if you guys have questions for the crew, go ahead and submit them now. We'll hit them in the next few minutes and at the very end of the show. So anything for Corey, Randall, or Spencer.

• 28:12Speaker 07

  But first off, some behind the scenes questions from Brady. He asks, was trivia, was the trivia tournament actually filmed in multiple segments or in one sitting?

• 28:21Speaker 05

  So the trivia tournament, it was three episodes. We filmed two of those episodes in one day, back to back. So we knocked those episodes out in about a two hour window. And then one week later, we filmed episode three. So there you go, Brady. That's, that's your behind the scenes look. We tried to record it in 2024 because it's the 2024 championship. But Steve's schedule with filming his History Channel show just didn't really allow that. So we had to wait until now. And then I think this summer, we're going to have a jabroni tournament coming for all those folks who didn't qualify for the big leagues.

• 28:56Speaker 06

  And I would like to apologize. I saw someone in the chat hadn't listened to the final episode yet. So we should have maybe added a spoiler alert. Although if you were paying attention to the scoreboard at the end of episode two.

• 29:11Speaker 05

  Yeah. Let's say this, there's, there is something fun that happens in that episode anyway. So you should go listen to it.

• 29:18Speaker 06

  Yes, yes.

• 29:18Speaker 05

  We have some very competitive scores that happened. What else you got, Phil?

• 29:23Speaker 07

  Well, on that note, we're getting a lot of requests for a honkin' for a bonkin' X ran, a random T-shirt, our two most requested T-shirts recently. So I don't know.

• 29:33Speaker 06

  My face on the goose, though.

• 29:35Speaker 07

  Your face on a goose, maybe, maybe being chased by a gooseinator as well.

• 29:38Speaker 05

  Oh, a broken toe.

• 29:40Speaker 07

  Throw it all in and the kitchen sink.

• 29:42Speaker 06

  Explain my origin story will be captured in the art. I like it.

• 29:45Speaker 05

  That reminds me, Lane, we had somebody write in to Meat Eater Trivia saying that they and their buddy have a competition. And the loser of their year long tournament at Meat Eater Trivia has to get a tattoo of our choosing. I think we offered a few suggestions and then a lot of people wrote in afterwards saying we missed the obvious one of getting the tattoo of honkin' for a bonkin' that appeared on a previous episode of Meat Eater Radio for a tattoo that someone ended up regretting. But I think, I think they gave that person words of encouragement. They should not regret.

• 30:16Speaker 06

  I hope they no longer regret that tattoo.

• 30:18Speaker 05

  It's a good tattoo. So if that person is listening right now who lost their trivia championship with their buddy, they ought to get the honkin' for a bonkin' goose tattoo.

• 30:29Speaker 07

  To piggyback on some more trivia stuff, John has a comment. He says, "In regards to the dermefted incident, I think incorrectly spelled answers in trivia should only be counted as correct if they can be reasonably pronounced correctly." And I agree with John, which is why I was against Steve getting that point.

• 30:46Speaker 06

  That's the point, yeah. John articulated it rather clearly here. In the back of my mind, I had some sort of animal instinct to reject Steve's answer, but John really hit the nail on the head.

• 30:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, here's the deal, John. It's very hard for seven people to argue with their boss about who's right and who's wrong. So sometimes we just lose that argument in that case. And that means that in other cases, Randall doesn't get credit for putting "crystallis" instead of "chrysalis," even though, you know, the logic should have been applied there as well. So sorry, apologize to you, Randall, for months ago when you gave that answer.

• 31:20Speaker 06

  Yeah. Did you go back and look at whether that would have affected the outcome of the game? I believe I would have tied it.

• 31:25Speaker 05

  I don't think I'm going to. Anything else, Phil?

• 31:27Speaker 07

  Aaron, we've got turkey season coming up. Aaron says, "I turkey hunt solo a lot. How do y'all usually spend the back half of your day in a hunt till noon state?"

• 31:37Speaker 05

  Well, Aaron, my great flaw with turkey hunting and with shed hunting is that it always devolves into two other things, and that is mushroom hunting or rock hunting. So, Aaron, keep your eyes on the ground, look for cool rocks, look for mushrooms that are, if you're in a hunt till noon state, I feel like those are mostly in the South, is like Kentucky or Tennessee. Someone will write in, I'm sure. You've probably got mushrooms popping up here very soon. So get yourself educated on what edible mushrooms you can eat, and then go look for those things. How about you, boys? Any suggestions for what Aaron should do after the turkey hunting season ends for him at noon o'clock each day? Man, around here, we're hunting turkeys from sunup till sundown, so I'm trying to think, put myself in

• 32:21Speaker 03

  In your shoes, I'd probably go fishing.

• 32:23Speaker 06

  Or if you're in a state that has an open black bear season. You can cruise the roads, do a little glassing up high, look for brewing.

• 32:32Speaker 05

  Or take a nap.

• 32:33Speaker 06

  Or take a nap.

• 32:33Speaker 05

  Take a nice spring afternoon nap.

• 32:35Speaker 03

  Yep, apps are good.

• 32:37Speaker 07

  Lance suggested putting a GoPro on the Goose Nator. Uh, that's a great idea. And also our guy Mogor, apparently daylight savings works differently in Hungary. Uh, he, he, he missed the beginning of the show, but we're glad you're here Mogor.

• 32:49Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah.

• 32:51Speaker 07

  When the, when the timer was happening, I was looking in the chat. It's usually our, our guys in there saying hi and he wasn't in there and, and I'm glad to see that he didn't miss the show.

• 32:58Speaker 06

  Yeah, I hope I didn't screw up my, uh, Hungary time last week when I announced it. That would be embarrassing.

• 33:04Speaker 05

  Uh, Mogor, you're gonna have to go back and listen because, uh, we, we talked about you again this week and how Randall's shout out to your time zone is going to, uh, inspire a new little bit. For me at least, I don't know about the other hosts.

• 33:15Speaker 07

  Uh, we'll do one, one more fluffy one, but we'll hit more of these at the end of the show. So keep the questions coming in. Question for Phil, what are the odds you implement your harmonica into one of the jingles? Pretty low, uh, because the jingles are usually just, you know, rip off parodies of, of pop songs and stuff, but I did play harmonica, uh, for the, uh, theme song I wrote for the Meat Eater Kids podcast. So if you want some more harmonica action.

• 33:36Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 33:37Speaker 05

  You need to, uh, just do like some, uh, piano man that has a strong harmonica in it. Um, anything with blues travelers has a lot of harmonica.

• 33:46Speaker 07

  Oh yeah, I'm just as good as that guy too.

• 33:48Speaker 06

  John Popper?

• 33:48Speaker 07

  John Popper. He's got his bandoliers of harmonica.

• 33:51Speaker 06

  The hook always brings me back.

• 33:52Speaker 05

  I, I'm with you. I think Gen Z just discovered, uh, the blues travelers.

• 33:57Speaker 07

  Is that a thing? Like, is, is he big on TikTok now or something?

• 34:00Speaker 06

  I gotta say, it's, it's just blues traveler.

• 34:02Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 34:03Speaker 05

  Blues, okay, sorry, blues traveler.

• 34:04Speaker 03

  Well, there's more than one of them.

• 34:06Speaker 05

  Uh, it, I, so anyway, Gen Z has just discovered them, the specific clip, um, of him doing the, is it the, the harmonica solo in hook? Um, that is quite popular right now.

• 34:17Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 34:17Speaker 05

  People are thrilled that that exists.

• 34:19Speaker 07

  Good for him.

• 34:20Speaker 05

  All right, moving on, our next segment is the Price is Right.

• 34:27Speaker 07

  Let's move over to my thing here. Sorry Spencer. Hey, here it comes from Bozeman, Montana. Meat Eater Radio's most exciting 10 minutes. It's The Price is Right!

• 34:36Speaker 05

  Yes, wow!

• 34:37Speaker 07

  Cory Calkins, come on down!

• 34:39Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah!

• 34:41Speaker 07

  Hey, Randall Williams, come on down! You're the next two contestants on Meat Eater Radio's The Price is Right! Now, here's your host, Spencer Neuharth!

• 34:53Speaker 05

  Thank you, Phil, thank you. Corey's third appearance on The Price is Right, and Randall's first appearance here. Alright, this game is really simple. Phil is going to tell you about a product from the Meat Eater Universe, and you need to guess its price. The player with the closest answer without going over will be declared the winner. If both players go over, then you'll both be told to try again, and the chat should play along as well, because whoever has the closest answer will get a shout out from Phil. Alright, there are three products for today's show. Phil, tell us about the first item up for bid.

• 35:30Speaker 07

  How about we start today's show by giving you your very own Big Buck Hunter Reloaded Arcade Game? Do you want to live like a bachelor? Do you love slugging beers and shooting deers? Is your name Randall Williams? Well, we've got just the thing for you. The Big Buck Hunter Reloaded Arcade Game comes with a 42-inch monitor and two toy rifles. And if you get tired of gunning down booner whitetails, just turn on one of the other seven thrilling games such as The Walking Dead, Duck Dynasty, or Terminator Salvation.

• 35:56Speaker 05

  There's also 33 mini-games and 11 huntable animals, including a zombie deer mission called Doe of the Dead. Alright Randall and Corey, what does that bar-worthy arcade game cost? Man, sorry, is this used or is this new? This is brand new. I'm not going to tell you the website, but this is a brand new... Big Buck Hunter Reloaded Arcade Game. Phil is showing us a few screenshots from the game, uh, as well as that arcade game itself.

• 36:28Speaker 03

  Without going over, Randall.

• 36:29Speaker 05

  Phil, describe the, the graphics you're looking at here.

• 36:32Speaker 07

  Oh, sure. Yeah. For the audio listeners, we've got some, uh, some deer with some real thick antlers, uh, frolicking around a farmhouse here, uh, but they are completely eaten up by some sort of zombie parasite. Uh, they've got some green, uh, slime all over their rib cage. Uh, you know, their, their jaws are torn apart. You know, picture a zombie deer. That's what we're looking at here. So that's one of the.

• 36:52Speaker 05

  Phil, why, why are arcade game graphics always like 15 years behind the rest of video game graphics? If you showed me this screenshot, which you can see on our YouTube channel, I'd be like, yeah, that's from 2004.

• 37:06Speaker 07

  Well, arcade games, uh, need to, they're in a cabinet that needs, that is hot and needs to be running. Uh, you know, not 24/7, but in some cases, yeah, 24/7. So they can't use too intensive, uh, CPUs or graphics cards that would, so they, um, they're a little bit behind the times, but that keeps, keeps them running for, for longer.

• 37:24Speaker 05

  Sure. So a 42 inch monitor, it has two rifles, seven thrilling games, 33 mini games, 11 huntable animals. This isn't your dad's Big Buck Hunter Arcade Game.

• 37:37Speaker 03

  God, I want one so bad in my house.

• 37:38Speaker 06

  Yeah. Well, they make a mini one now, which is what I.

• 37:41Speaker 05

  They do.

• 37:42Speaker 06

  Yeah. So you can.

• 37:43Speaker 05

  This isn't that.

• 37:44Speaker 06

  My buddy's got one in his basement. That one is actually quite affordable.

• 37:47Speaker 05

  Okay. Hmm. This, this one though.

• 37:49Speaker 06

  Well, it doesn't shoot like the real thing.

• 37:51Speaker 05

  Yeah. This is one you'd see in, uh, your favorite bar.

• 37:53Speaker 06

  Sydney and I used to go play Buck Hunter on our anniversary every year.

• 37:56Speaker 05

  Wow. And you quit doing that?

• 37:58Speaker 06

  Uh, they sold that Buck Hunter machine.

• 38:00Speaker 05

  Okay. I bet we could find another one.

• 38:01Speaker 06

  We used to go to the bar where we met in Missoula and play it.

• 38:04Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 38:04Speaker 06

  There's also a great Buck Hunter machine. There used to be one at the cannery.

• 38:08Speaker 05

  Hmm.

• 38:09Speaker 06

  Uh, there, there's a great one at a laundromat in, uh, in Whitefish.

• 38:13Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 38:14Speaker 06

  Yeah. I used to play that when we were up in Whitefish.

• 38:16Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 38:17Speaker 06

  It's, it's really part of our journey. My, my wife and I, it's part of our story. So.

• 38:22Speaker 05

  Do both of you have an answer?

• 38:23Speaker 06

  I do. I do.

• 38:25Speaker 05

  Of the Big Buck Hunter Reloaded Arcade Game. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Randall saying.

• 38:32Speaker 06

  Coward.

• 38:33Speaker 05

  $5,699.99 and we have Corey going low. He says $601.

• 38:41Speaker 03

  Hate the player, not the game.

• 38:42Speaker 06

  Coward.

• 38:44Speaker 05

  The correct answer is $6,495, giving Randall the first point. He's only $900 off the correct answer.

• 38:53Speaker 07

  We had Big Dough in the chat, who guessed $6,400.

• 38:57Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 38:57Speaker 07

  Which is very close.

• 38:58Speaker 05

  Hell yeah, Big Dough.

• 38:59Speaker 06

  Golly, I'm terrible at this.

• 39:01Speaker 05

  Now, the mini one that Randall was saying his buddy has, that one's like $600. So you were right on.

• 39:07Speaker 06

  It's more than I thought.

• 39:08Speaker 05

  And they sell that one at like Best Buy, Walmart, Amazon.

• 39:12Speaker 06

  It's still fun.

• 39:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, but this, this was the real deal.

• 39:15Speaker 06

  Way off.

• 39:16Speaker 05

  All right, Phil, tell us about the second item up for bid.

• 39:21Speaker 07

  Well, if you like shooting thousands of virtual deer, then you'd probably love an autographed copy of Ted Nugent's book, God, Guns, and Rock and Roll. The whack master himself signed hundreds of items that he's selling on his website. Besides his memoir, there's also autographed cookbooks, posters, and hats, including a chic camo cap that says, "Elect that mother effer again." Ted calls it the super gonzo, sorry, hold on, Ted calls it quote, because that's important, the super gonzo mojo voodoo America freedom battle cry hat of all time. But hey, feel free to choose your own nonsensical string of nouns, verbs, and adjectives.

• 39:54Speaker 05

  Well, I know what I'm getting, Phil, for Christmas this year. All right, Randall and Corey, what does that autographed book from terrible Ted cost? This is straight from his website. He has, I think, four books for sale that have his name on them.

• 40:09Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's the only one I've read.

• 40:11Speaker 05

  This, no, you're kidding me.

• 40:12Speaker 06

  I read that, yeah, I read that in high school.

• 40:14Speaker 05

  You did?

• 40:14Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 40:15Speaker 05

  You made it one of the New York Times bestsellers, which it has that stamp on there.

• 40:19Speaker 06

  Oh, I think it was long out by the time I read it.

• 40:21Speaker 05

  Give us a review of God, Guns, and Rock and Roll.

• 40:26Speaker 06

  I don't remember much about it, I'll be honest with you, but I did own that. I remember sitting that on the, that's sitting on my bookshelf.

• 40:33Speaker 05

  It's a pretty book, pretty looking book. And he sells hundreds of things on his website that are autographed by him.

• 40:41Speaker 06

  Yeah, I just, I mean. My gut tells me that he values his own signature rather highly.

• 40:47Speaker 07

  I know, that's what I'm worried about too.

• 40:48Speaker 06

  But it's also a book.

• 40:51Speaker 05

  It is a book, but it's signed by the Whackmaster himself.

• 40:56Speaker 06

  Can we get a pub date on that, Phil?

• 40:57Speaker 05

  Great.

• 40:59Speaker 07

  Unfortunately, I don't have that in my script, but maybe Spencer could.

• 41:02Speaker 05

  We could look that up.

• 41:03Speaker 06

  Yeah, sorry, you're juggling too many things.

• 41:05Speaker 05

  Back to item one, though, the $6,495, that was from hangouthaven.com. And if you want to make it online compatible, you'll need to fork over another $40 per month.

• 41:17Speaker 06

  Yeah, I figured there's a subscription.

• 41:18Speaker 05

  Play people across the globe in Big Buck Hunter.

• 41:21Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 41:21Speaker 05

  But we're on item two.

• 41:22Speaker 07

  Looks like you've got August 14th, 2001 for that publication.

• 41:25Speaker 06

  Yeah, so I could have read that in high school. Maybe I was one of the ones that, one of the individuals that put it on the best side of us.

• 41:30Speaker 05

  I'm surprised to hear that. That book looks like a post-9/11 book, not a pre-9/11 book.

• 41:36Speaker 07

  I know, he was ahead of the times.

• 41:37Speaker 05

  He was three weeks.

• 41:38Speaker 06

  I don't think Ted's changed his tune much. Well, I guess like since he dodged the draft by shitting his pants, but.

• 41:47Speaker 05

  All right, you boys got an answer for the cost of that autographed book?

• 41:50Speaker 07

  I don't remember. I think that's true.

• 41:51Speaker 05

  He said that in an interview and then later denied it, I think.

• 41:55Speaker 07

  Who knows?

• 41:55Speaker 05

  You boys ready?

• 41:56Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 41:57Speaker 05

  Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Randall saying $79.99.

• 42:03Speaker 07

  Going big.

• 42:04Speaker 05

  And we have Corey saying $49.99. The correct answer is lower than both of those. So you will try again. Write down a new answer. What was yours, Corey? $49.99? You'd know that it's lower than 50 bucks. How's the chat doing, Phil? Is anybody over there nailed it yet?

• 42:23Speaker 07

  Well, I don't want to give too much away, but we've had a lot of people get it right on the money. So I'm sure there were some good guesses and some cheaters in there, but.

• 42:30Speaker 05

  All right, man. Randall and Corey, it's lower than $49.99.

• 42:34Speaker 07

  I have no problem accusing them of cheating.

• 42:36Speaker 05

  Be careful here, I know. Both of you have an answer?

• 42:39Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 42:39Speaker 05

  Go ahead and reveal your answers. We've got Corey saying $34.99. Oh, boy. Randall saying $27.99. Come on. Uncle Ted. The correct answer is $29.99 giving Randall the victory and the second point of the game. And that is $20 cheaper than his autographed hat that says American shit kicker on it. So if you're looking to get Pat Durkin his 70th birthday present for about 50 bucks.

• 43:13Speaker 06

  Oh Teddy.

• 43:13Speaker 05

  You can get him two autographed pieces of Ted Nugent merch. Phil, tell us about the folks who got it right on the nose.

• 43:19Speaker 07

  Oh, I'm putting them up on the screen here because I don't, there's a lot of them.

• 43:23Speaker 06

  Mark Hodges, hello.

• 43:24Speaker 07

  Get them all there. We had five or six people get it right on the money there.

• 43:28Speaker 05

  Good on you guys. All right, Phil, tell us about the third item up for bid today.

• 43:32Speaker 07

  Oh, sure. Let me just bring it up here and do that, do that, and then I gotta go back over here. Do you, do you like it when I narrate all the things I'm doing?

• 43:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, it's good.

• 43:42Speaker 06

  Let me guess, let me guess what we're talking about here. It's a, uh...

• 43:46Speaker 07

  Yeah, actually, Rand, I'll let you guess and then I'll read the description.

• 43:49Speaker 06

  It's a four by six Harbor Freight tarp.

• 43:51Speaker 07

  Our final item up for bid today is a taxidermied whitetail doe from Craigslist.

• 43:56Speaker 05

  Oh, really?

• 43:59Speaker 07

  This full body mount portrays a dead deer lying on its side. Doesn't sound too interesting. Well, you'd be wrong. The New York City seller said the whitetail was used as a movie prop. When Spencer reached out to ask what movie, the Craigslist-er wouldn't say, but did reveal that the film will come out later this year and stars an Oscar-winning actress. Could it be Jurassic Park?

• 44:16Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 44:16Speaker 07

  Maybe Avatar or The Conjuring, or it might be the seventh film in the Predator franchise. I guess we'll never know.

• 44:22Speaker 05

  That's right, Phil. Even when I begged the seller to tell me and added pretty, pretty please to my email, they held firm and said legally they couldn't leak the title of the film. All right, Manalyn Corey, what does that full body whitetail doe mount cost? Beautifully done piece of taxidermy. It's very realistic, man. It's a whitetail doe who looks like she's in her early summer coat. Um, and then it, so I think the bloat that you're seeing there are her udders. Yeah, well. This would be a deer that died, uh, like right in the middle of May while she had a little fawn under her belly. Or it's been sitting on the side of the...

• 44:58Speaker 07

  Road for 24 hours.

• 44:59Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 45:00Speaker 06

  Hmm.

• 45:00Speaker 05

  So what does that piece of taxidermy cost?

• 45:04Speaker 07

  Interesting. Golly, I, I can't go out zero to three here.

• 45:08Speaker 06

  It looks so good on the tarp.

• 45:09Speaker 05

  Uh huh.

• 45:10Speaker 07

  I know, I was hoping it was a tarp. I know how much the tarp costs.

• 45:13Speaker 05

  I, I need our listeners to watch every film that comes out this year that is starring an Oscar winning actress. So we can figure out where this taxidermy dough is from.

• 45:23Speaker 06

  If it's in the, uh, new Jurassic Park film.

• 45:26Speaker 05

  So I watched.

• 45:26Speaker 06

  It'll be co-starring with some FHF gear.

• 45:30Speaker 05

  That's right. Scar Joe, she has an Oscar, so I thought it could be that. But when I watched the trailer, uh, it looks like it's taking place on a tropical island.

• 45:38Speaker 07

  I don't think Scarlett Johansson has an Oscar. She's been nominated multiple times. She's never won.

• 45:42Speaker 05

  Okay, now, now we got it. Well, if that's not the case, then we can eliminate, um, Jurassic Park.

• 45:47Speaker 07

  Mahershala Ali, I think, is in that movie. He does have an Oscar, but he is a man.

• 45:50Speaker 05

  Actress, yes. Oscar winning actress. Do both of you have an answer for what that taxidermy dead deer cost?

• 45:59Speaker 06

  I do.

• 46:00Speaker 07

  Yeah, let's roll.

• 46:00Speaker 05

  Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Corey saying $301. Randall saying $2,499.99.

• 46:11Speaker 06

  Piece of Hollywood history to be.

• 46:13Speaker 07

  Yeah, but they're just trying to get rid of that thing.

• 46:15Speaker 05

  The correct answer is $4,500. And they said if I pick it up by Sunday, they'll give me a discount. So maybe, maybe you could make a $2,500. Well, I'm gonna be in New York City next week. I could, I could genuinely bring this thing home if we can solve where this movie comes from.

• 46:33Speaker 07

  You got four grand burning a hole in your pocket?

• 46:35Speaker 05

  I do not, but maybe, uh, this company whose airwaves were on does.

• 46:39Speaker 07

  Offer him $301, see what they say.

• 46:41Speaker 05

  Randall, a dominant victory coming off being the 2024 Meat Eater Trivia Champion.

• 46:46Speaker 06

  So we do.

• 46:47Speaker 05

  Now defending his title is the.

• 46:49Speaker 06

  That one goes out to all the randoms in the chat.

• 46:51Speaker 07

  We had Kevin guess 8.99, but also, you know, I'm, I don't know what it says about me that I don't trust anyone who gets it right on the money.

• 46:57Speaker 05

  Mm hmm.

• 46:58Speaker 07

  Especially with something like this. Uh, but Lance guessed 9.50. Lance, if you are, uh, true to your word, then I apologize.

• 47:04Speaker 05

  $4,500 though. Those were the closest we had.

• 47:07Speaker 07

  Oh, sorry, I'm looking.

• 47:11Speaker 05

  We're live, folks. That's okay.

• 47:12Speaker 07

  I'm looking at last episode's price of a taxidermy, or no, the camouflage. I'm looking at the wrong price, Spencer.

• 47:21Speaker 05

  Four thousand five hundred dollars.

• 47:23Speaker 07

  Four thousand five hundred dollars.

• 47:24Speaker 05

  If you were close in the chat, good on you.

• 47:26Speaker 07

  Big Dough put a winky face.

• 47:27Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 47:28Speaker 07

  We know what he's about, but he got it right on the money.

• 47:31Speaker 06

  Big Dough.

• 47:32Speaker 05

  Dirty dog. So if you live in New York City, that taxidermy dough could be yours. And like Randall said, it's a piece of Hollywood history.

• 47:41Speaker 06

  Maybe it's Big Dough pushing his own product in the chat.

• 47:47Speaker 07

  He just, he just flat out said it. See, this is, this is what I'm talking about here.

• 47:51Speaker 06

  Well, I'll know who to watch next time when we're playing.

• 47:53Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm. Randall, now the champion of Price is Right and Meat Eater Trivia.

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• 50:28Speaker 05

  All right, let's move on to our last interview for the day. Joining us on the line next is Joel Collender from Rock Island Auction, and he's here to show us some legendary guns that are coming up for sale. Joel, welcome to the show.

• 50:43Speaker 06

  Gentlemen, afternoon. Always a pleasure. Good to be back.

• 50:45Speaker 05

  All right, Joel, he's a recurring guest, but real quick, remind folks of what Rock Island Auction is.

• 50:52Speaker 06

  Sure. We're the number one auction house in the world for fine and historic collector firearms. Of course, we're known for six and seven figure firearms. Those are the ones that catch the headlines, but absolutely catering to collectors, users of all budgets, all levels of expertise, everything. If there's something you're looking for, it's not a question of if we'll get it, it's usually just when.

• 51:15Speaker 05

  Now, before we get to today's guns, I want to ask you some questions about Rock Island. What's the oldest gun you've ever sold?

• 51:23Speaker 06

  The oldest that I've seen since I've been here, and that's just about 12 years, are actual hand cannons. Before there's, you know, triggers and firing mechanisms, you literally have a cannon you hold in your hand with a touch hole, and you're firing it off.

• 51:38Speaker 05

  So how old are we talking?

• 51:41Speaker 06

  Oh, 1400s and earlier.

• 51:44Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 51:45Speaker 06

  These gunpowder dating back to, you know, what some people, the earliest between like 11th century. At the earliest. So in between that area and there's a lot of, you know, of course, development in that time.

• 51:55Speaker 05

  And what part of the world will that gun come from?

• 51:59Speaker 06

  Um.

• 52:02Speaker 06

  Asia, Japan, China, of course, gunpowder, you know, developing in China. So a lot of that section of the world will have that. The earliest gun that we've sold of significance comes from about sixteen ten, sixteen twenty. So you're looking right around the time the the King James Bible was introduced. And that was a a wheel lock that belonged to Louis the thirteenth.

• 52:21Speaker 05

  Hmm. Now, what's the most famous gun that you've ever sold?

• 52:26Speaker 06

  Oh, well, we brought it up in the last interview. I'd have to say it's that a Blastec DL forty four blaster. It was a Han Solo's blaster in Star Wars, Episode Four. It was a one of three ever made. And it came to us, you know, from the owner of a bapping company from the actual prop house, had documentation from the armor of the film. So that will got some international press, also went for over a million dollars, set a Guinness World Record, actually, for that. So that was definitely the most, I'd say, the most famous one.

• 52:56Speaker 05

  Now, I just finished reading a book about art thieves and a lot of these crimes happen at auction houses. Have you guys ever dealt with any kind of an attempted heist?

• 53:08Speaker 06

  Thankfully, no. We have had no problems with heists. We take security pretty, pretty seriously at our locations, though. We have had guns that have been involved in heists. We've had a revolver that, actually, a Colt, it was a fit special, not a factory fit special, but one that he had modified. From Clyde Barrow, from the Barrow gang, Bonnie and Clyde. We've had a public enemy number one, who is that? Floyd Hamilton, he was a part of their gang. He helped in the, in the big bust when they broke four people out of jail.

• 53:39Speaker 05

  Pretty boy Floyd.

• 53:41Speaker 06

  Yeah. Well, no, that's, that's different with Floyd. Hamilton's part of that barrel gang. Um, we have had a gun tied to Pretty Boy Floyd in a separate, separate Tommy gun related story. Um, but the big one I like Bob Dalton, you know, leader of the Dalton gang. And, uh, of course leads the failed Coffeyville raid, but before the raid, they ordered 10 Colts, fancy Colts. Pearl handled engraved case hardened like beautiful guns and they ordered these 10 guns for the gang to do this, you know, double bank robbery in one day and, uh, and we have privilege of selling one of those. Classy.

• 54:14Speaker 05

  Amazing. All right. Now the guns we're about to see will be available at the Rock Island auction happening May 2nd through May 4th. All right, Joel, what do you have to show us?

• 54:25Speaker 06

  Well, first and foremost, brought something for the, for the mountain men, something for the long hunters. This would be a Hawken rifle. Now a lot of them, it's, you know, quintessential American frontier, uh, sort of rifle. Uh, a lot of them get the name of Hawken rifle. This one is actually made by Hawken. Uh, so you had Jacob and Samuel Hawken, they begin producing guns around 1815. Uh, we know this one dates from about the 1850s, uh, because Jacob dies. Uh, but Samuel keeps making guns and it's marked with his store in, uh, that they founded in St. Louis, but it just has his name. So just a quintessential piece of America. This one's the full stock. A lot of times,

• 55:07Speaker 06

  uh, the half stocks were more popular despite being more expensive to produce because they were a little more labor intensive. So you don't see the full stocks as often, but boy, just, just what a piece from that, you know, from the mountain man era, from this fur trading era, whether you're a pioneer explorer, et cetera.

• 55:26Speaker 06

  Thought that might ring over well with, uh, some of the fellers.

• 55:28Speaker 05

  Yeah. What do you think that gun is going to sell for?

• 55:31Speaker 06

  Well, we have an estimate, I believe on, on a genuine Hawken, uh, 65 to 95,000. Wow.

• 55:37Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 55:37Speaker 06

  What's the bore on that?

• 55:38Speaker 05

  Interested in, in that price?

• 55:40Speaker 06

  Yeah. What's, what's the bore on that? Well, sorry, you know, the apologies Jeremiah Johnson, this one's 54 caliber. Ah, yeah. I was going to say, I know a guy who might be interested.

• 55:51Speaker 05

  Now Randall, did that gun show up, show up a lot in your coverage of mountain men?

• 55:56Speaker 06

  Yeah, I mean, the Hawken is the gun that's most commonly associated with that era. And it's obvious, it's like probably the most iconic firearm since the Kentucky long rifle.

• 56:08Speaker 06

  What's, what's interesting in our research is that there's a few like very high profile individuals that had genuine Hawkins. But you know,

• 56:16Speaker 05

  Such as?

• 56:17Speaker 06

  Uh, Jim Bridger, uh, oh, what's his name?

• 56:21Speaker 07

  Hugh Glass, Kit Carson famously, of course.

• 56:25Speaker 06

  Yep. And, and, but you know, a lot of the, your sort of, uh, day to day boots on the ground mountain men were, were getting by with cheaper guns, you know? But those, those, the Hawken is like the legendary piece from that time.

• 56:40Speaker 05

  All right, Joel, what, uh, what gun do you have next for us?

• 56:44Speaker 07

  Well, I know it's been something for the buffalo hunters in the group. I had a Sharps last time. This one's got a couple of special, different tweaks too. It's a Sharps, uh, model 1874 business model. Uh, this one ships actually in 1878. So that prime, like huge, uh, commercial bison hunting era. You out there in Montana and big sky country or territory, I guess I should say. This is one of very few shipped, uh, it's actually the president of Sharps at the time. So it's a, it's a rare gun. There's all the business models, like 1600 made. So it's a classic gun. Definitely associated with the, with the bison hunting at the time and the commercial hunting.

• 57:25Speaker 07

  Rare one because of that shipped to the president of the company, but more than that, this gun has won some awards. Because of the accessories that it comes with, it has maintained all these years, not just as kind of a rare and desirable firearm. But it comes with the full sort of buffalo hunting kit. There's, that rifle is cased in a case entirely coated with bison fur. It comes with the full skinning kit from the field.

• 57:54Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 57:55Speaker 07

  In bison fur and just like not every shape, every size, there's things in here that, I mean, I think look like they're going to be for, for woodworking. This was one, but you know, it's for, yeah, I'm in the field making sure these things can get

• 58:09Speaker 06

  Big draw knife.

• 58:09Speaker 07

  Greened and, and back to market.

• 58:12Speaker 05

  Now what, what makes that the business model and like what sets it apart from just a regular one of those?

• 58:19Speaker 07

  Caliber configuration is so they're set with a, I think it's a 28 inch barrel, round barrel, although there are a lot of varieties seen during that time. They're also produced during a pretty narrow window. So it's, it's, I don't want to say it's a collector designation because it was absolutely an original designation from Sharps for how they chose to sell it. But basically configuration, again, aimed at sort of that big market you see where people wanted accurate guns, reliable guns that could put a lot of firepower on big animals like a, like an American bison.

• 58:50Speaker 05

  And what do you think that gun is going to sell for?

• 58:53Speaker 07

  I have to write them all down. That one we have estimated actually with all those like original period accessories, 15 to 25,000.

• 59:01Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 59:02Speaker 07

  For Sharps with some extra goodies.

• 59:05Speaker 06

  No, I hate to be, I hate to repeat my question for earlier. What's that one chambered in? Is that a 50? Is that the big 50? Oh, it's a 4570. Gotcha.

• 59:14Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 59:14Speaker 06

  Very cool.

• 59:15Speaker 07

  Long classic. Yep. And again, shipped in 1878. So it's right in that window.

• 59:20Speaker 05

  Now, are you working on the Buffalo Hyde Hunters book right now? Has this

• 59:24Speaker 06

  I am.

• 59:24Speaker 05

  gone very famous in your research?

• 59:26Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah. Yeah. The Sharps, I mean, again, like the Sharps, if you associate one firearm with that era and that particular hunt, it's the Sharps and legendary for shooting animals at distance and putting a big wallop on them.

• 59:41Speaker 05

  Okay. And what, what is the third gun you have with you today, Joel?

• 59:47Speaker 07

  Well, third one is actually one that's gonna cut, one of the headliners of the auction. This is a Winchester 18, model 1873, one of 1,000. That was actually one of three made for the film Winchester 73 starring Jimmy Stewart.

• 1:00:06Speaker 05

  That, that gun is a piece of art he is holding. Now, how old is this gun? And what do you think that'll sell for? Is it from 1873?

• 1:00:14Speaker 07

  Nope. So that's just a model designation. There were some original 1001s made like 18, mostly from 1875 to 1893. This one was manufactured by the company some years later specifically to be a prop for the movie. It's an original manufacturer, though, right at the, right at the turn of the century. That said, it is because of its significance to gun collecting. I mean, the movie, the campaign, the gun itself like changes fine arms collecting in the United States forever. Not like the sole catalyst for it, but to say it's not a major player would would be a mistake. This, let's see, what did the estimate on that? It's about three hundred, uh, one hundred seventy-five to three hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars.

• 1:00:59Speaker 06

  Wow, wow.

• 1:01:00Speaker 07

  So it's based up there right with, you know, original rare one of one thousand Winchesters, like these holy grails, these crown jewels of fine arms collecting. And here you have the one that's that's on screen. You can look at the buttstock. There's the plaque on the buttstock that like starts the whole movie. And actually, this is that rifle. There's, you know, we have plenty of paperwork coming with this to show that when that movie opens, this is the rifle that you see.

• 1:01:26Speaker 06

  Beautiful. That's amazing. Now, I'm not a, uh, I'm not a huge lever gun guy. I, I sort of know the origin story and the, the early models and then I'm familiar with what's available to the shooter today, but could you tell us a little bit about where the seventy-three fits in with sort of the development of that? That technology?

• 1:01:48Speaker 07

  Yeah, absolutely. So of course you have a lot of lever actions, uh, dating to the mid nineteenth century. Of course, the most famous one, as the patents are bought up, is, is the Henry rifle. Uh, that's pre Winchester. That's New Haven Arms during the Civil War era, eighteen sixty to sixty-five. Winchester, of course, buys these patents, a little bit of a, a drama there with Benjamin Tyler Henry, uh, starts his own company Winchester, Oliver Winchester, a shirt maker from New York, comes out with the Winchester sixty-six, um, using a lot of those Benjamin Tyler Henry patents. His next rifle that he makes is the, is the model eighteen seventy-three.

• 1:02:27Speaker 06

  And what do you mean, Joel, by, uh, what do you mean when you say this gun changed gun collecting?

• 1:02:33Speaker 07

  So the, the movie, I mean, they're famous for being the rare guns, you know, these holy grails. There's only of the original Winchester one-on-one thousands. There's like a hundred and thirty-two ever made. And of course, just under half of those are known to exist today. They're extremely rare deluxe guns. Made for a narrow window of time. People love these with the move and they're kind of forgotten about. There's a period of time in the twenties, even into the forties, where there's some curiosity about them by known, by people who know, uh, find and collector firearms, but they're not the famous guns that we know today. Well, the movie comes out in nineteen fifty and when the movie comes out, there's a huge publicity campaign.

• 1:03:14Speaker 07

  And this is done kind of headed by Steve Depperman, who runs an agency in New York and he's a name collector should know because his campaign is looking for the original Winchester one on one thousands. They, they launched this huge campaign, tens of thousands of posters, not even uh domestically, but also internationally. They're in gun stores, they're in Winchester dealerships looking for Winchester one on one thousand rifles and they don't want them. They're not taking them. They're like, we're just trying to document them all. And if you have one, if you have a Winchester eighteen seventy three one on one thousand, we'll send you a Winchester eighteen ninety four deer rifle. Brand new. A lot of people are submitting, submitting these.

• 1:03:53Speaker 07

  But what it really did, how it changed gun collecting is it's introducing people to the concept of rare and desirable firearms.

• 1:04:01Speaker 05

  Gotcha.

• 1:04:02Speaker 07

  That those firearms are worth money, that those are valuable. Uh, it's teaching them how to identify them. And it's got them like people actively searching for them, like it's for quintessential gun collector behaviors. And it's just launching this on a, on a fairly unprecedented scale. Um, and then we call the fifties sort of this golden age of gun collecting or a fine arms collecting. And it's largely due to impart this massive influx of people who are now looking for rare, desirable guns, of course, starting with the Winchester eighteen seventy three one on one thousands, but you know, eventually, you know, Colt single action armies are being collected. Uh, Civil War arms, Revolutionary War arms. It's just, it's, it's varied, of course, is, is whatever people have an interest in.

• 1:04:44Speaker 05

  And if Randall is interested in one of these guns, how does he make a bid?

• 1:04:49Speaker 07

  We, of course, you'd call us and we'll have the catalog up, um, probably early April, uh, or maybe late March here, the way we're moving. Uh, which is good news. You can hop on the line. There's all the pictures, the full descriptions, calibers, all any other questions people might have. Uh, and it's as easy as clicking on the website, but of course, people want to come do it in person. These are, these big auctions are premier auctions. They're live events.

• 1:05:11Speaker 06

  Uh, we built a new facility, oh, just about a year and a half ago in Bedford, Texas, and it is absolutely outstanding. So come see him in person, put him in your hands before you place a bid. Uh, you can do that.

• 1:05:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, don't, uh, don't try to make a heist because they're watching you closely. All right, we're gonna check in with you later this year to, uh, see what other cool guns you have at the auction house. Already looking forward to that interview. Thanks for joining us, Joel.

• 1:05:34Speaker 06

  That's right. Thanks very much. You have a real good one.

• 1:05:36Speaker 05

  You too.

• 1:05:38Speaker 05

  Hmm. All right. That brings us to the end of this week's show. Phil, let's get some final feedback from the chat.

• 1:05:44Speaker 07

  Yeah, Steven asks, Spencer, any chance you'll be rock hounding on your trip to Lake Superior? I would love to see a collab with Agate Dad. I don't know who Agate Dad is, but I maybe, I'm assuming you do, but I don't know if you do or not.

• 1:05:55Speaker 05

  I, I do not know who Agate Dad is. I follow a handful of, uh, rock hounding influencers, most of them in the West. But yes, I do plan to rock hound on that trip. Uh, I'd love to find a Superior Agate. I have a few, uh, but they're ones that I have traded for. So I don't have any that I have myself found, which makes them a little more special. So I'm going to, uh, attempt to find one on that trip. I also have, uh, my UV flashlight with me and, uh, walking the shores of Lake Superior is a great place to, uh, bust one of those out to find some unique rocks. So I'm going to try to do it, Steven.

• 1:06:29Speaker 07

  Right on. Uh, I want to give a shout out to Sarah who, who didn't cheat and was the closest, uh, for that deer prop. She guessed 2,500, which, which I think was the closest, even though I think the price was what? Almost 5 grand?

• 1:06:41Speaker 05

  4,500.

• 1:06:42Speaker 07

  4,500.

• 1:06:43Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 1:06:43Speaker 07

  Good on you, Sarah. People, people were really low balling that one.

• 1:06:45Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:06:46Speaker 07

  Um. You guys can get as deep into this as you want to, but Jax, uh, he says, I was inspired to pursue a degree in range management by you all. Any words of encouragement or advice for someone looking into this career with the current political situation?

• 1:07:00Speaker 05

  What do you got, Randall?

• 1:07:02Speaker 06

  Um, man, I would just say, keep the faith. Uh, you know, we're in a very strange moment right now. Um.

• 1:07:13Speaker 06

  But there's always going to be need for people to watch out for our soils and our vegetation and all that habitat out there. And yeah, I don't know that I would make any rash decisions at the moment as other rash decisions are being made by the powers that be. So keep the faith, Jack, and I appreciate your, appreciate your, your chosen career path there.

• 1:07:37Speaker 05

  Hey, Jack, I went to school for biology, ecology and evolution. I'm not using that degree today. And if you don't use your range management degree either, I don't think you would regret going to college for that. You'll be exposed to a lot of fun, interesting things that any outdoorsman would like to know. So good luck, Jack. Well said. Harrison asks, question for the crew. What do you think of Western states moving to having people purchase a tag to shed hunt? And should Montana follow suit? Thanks. Well, Harrison, I would say I typically trust the folks making those decisions if they think you need a tag to either track how many people are doing it, or to limit the amount

• 1:08:20Speaker 05

  of folks that are like pushing around animals during a very vulnerable time. I'm okay with it. I also don't know those tag prices, but I assume it's, it's less than 30, 30 bucks. As outdoorsmen, we spend a lot of dumb money on a lot of dumb things. That, that $30 tag, which is probably on the expensive side of what these Western states are charging, is money well spent. What do you guys think?

• 1:08:47Speaker 06

  Yeah, I think it's an activity that when done, I guess, carelessly has a pretty significant impact on the resource. And I would support our wildlife managers having all the information that they can to sort of understand better what that impact is and what steps we can take to make it more wildlife friendly. Because again, deer and elk getting pushed around on winter range is a serious source of mortality.

• 1:09:16Speaker 05

  And I think like shed hunting in the West is probably more popular now than it's ever been.

• 1:09:21Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's, it's one of those things like on a limited basis, it might not have a huge impact, but as it's grown in popularity, it certainly is making its, its. You know, impact on the resource.

• 1:09:34Speaker 05

  Corey, when you were in your shed hunting heyday, would you scoff at a $30 license if you needed to buy one to do that?

• 1:09:41Speaker 06

  Hmm, no, no, I wouldn't. I'd pay that in a heartbeat. Yeah, just I think along the lines of what you mentioned. I think anything that becomes a little overcrowded or overpopular has to be regulated somehow. And, uh, yeah. But I will say, probably the worst offenders are the guys that are gonna go out and not buy the tag. Right? Yeah. Oh, yeah, people are still gonna get it. Like the people that are, the people that are kinda renegade shed hunters.

• 1:10:06Speaker 05

  Sure.

• 1:10:06Speaker 06

  And, and like chasing down bulls and stuff, uh, they're probably not gonna follow the rules. So it's a double edged sword, but I think always like supporting our agencies and, and providing them with information and data is a good thing.

• 1:10:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, I don't think they're out to get you, uh, when they make you buy one of these licenses to go shed hunt. So I just trust that, uh, they're doing it for the good of the critters and, uh, the good of the resource.

• 1:10:29Speaker 06

  Yeah, I don't think Montana's, uh, anywhere near having one, but I'm sure at some point it'll happen.

• 1:10:34Speaker 05

  Phil, what else you got?

• 1:10:35Speaker 06

  Well, let's do one more. This is probably the most important one. Kevin asks, what new hair product is Randall using? Oh. I believe it's called spit. Yeah, a little water, a little comb. Uh, I did get a, I don't even know what you call it. It's like a little, uh, tub of, uh, stuff. I think it's made by Old Spice.

• 1:10:54Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 1:10:55Speaker 06

  But they have like five different words for things you put in your hair now. You know, there's gels, there's balms. Pomade. There's. Pomade. Matt paste. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. You a dapper Dan man? I had to do something. I had to do something because otherwise it's just, you know, straight up.

• 1:11:10Speaker 05

  Did we get an answer there as to what you're putting in your hair?

• 1:11:12Speaker 06

  Old Spice.

• 1:11:13Speaker 05

  Old Spice. Okay. There you go.

• 1:11:15Speaker 06

  Nice.

• 1:11:16Speaker 05

  All right. That brings us to the end of the show. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Uh, we'll see you back here in a week.

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