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3:06 Holly Frey? Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of iHeart Radio.
3:17 Holly Frey? Hello and happy Friday. I'm Holly Frey.
3:19 Tracy V. Wilson? And I'm Tracy V. Wilson.
3:21 Holly Frey? Oh, man.
3:22 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
3:22 Holly Frey? Children's morality code.
3:24 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
3:25 Holly Frey? Yuck!
3:26 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah. I had never heard of this. You sent me that line. I read the words "National Institution for Moral Instruction," and I was like, hey, this sounds like Nazis.
3:40 Holly Frey? It's pretty awful.
3:41 Tracy V. Wilson? Not quite time for, like, the Nazi Party had not developed yet, but something about it, immediately I was like, mm-mm, no, this seems like something bad.
3:53 Holly Frey? The hardest of passes.
3:57 Holly Frey? Man, this one is so yucky in so many ways. I mean, it starts with the camera hidden in a briefcase. That's creeper behavior.
4:05 Tracy V. Wilson? Extremely creepy.
4:08 Holly Frey? The way he became super ableist and into eugenics, super creepy. It's really, really, um. Uh, it's just troubling and it is one of those things I, we didn't go into it, but that, um. When the inquiry started being published in 1928. It got a lot of coverage in the paper and like one newspaper, there's this huge with a graphic. Article about it, about like the findings of kids and how often kids lie and how.
4:49 Holly Frey? You know, kids, there's a quote from the researchers that like they. In one of their experiments. They had this setup where kids were supposed to write down in a journal, like the various good acts they did, I think. And it was a voluntary thing. Students didn't have to do it. But the kids that volunteered turned out to kind of be the biggest liars in the class, based on their other studies. Like that they were just lying in their journals about the good things they had done. And this of course became very newsworthy because in the 1920s, before the depression, people really had time to discuss whether or not kids were. Worthy of being human beings.
5:34 Holly Frey? It's, it's so weird. It's all so weird. Yeah, I, I can't. I mean, you know, Dewey had it right, right? He's like, this is just social intelligence, you guys. People will, will learn these things. That's part of growing up.
5:51 Tracy V. Wilson? Just to be super clear, in case people have forgotten since the episode, Dewey we were talking about there is not Melville Dewey. Creator of the Dewey Decimal System.
5:59 Holly Frey? No.
6:00 Tracy V. Wilson? We're not saying that guy was right about anything. It's a different Dewey.
6:04 Holly Frey? I have issues with the Dewey Decimal System.
6:07 Tracy V. Wilson? Uh, I have how, how horrible Melville Dewey was on like my shortlist for an episode, but I just can't deal with him in this moment.
6:15 Holly Frey? Yeah, yeah. The, the whole idea that like kids needed these very like. Like you said, it, it vibes very, um, you know, Nazi-ish. The youth of the future must be perfect kind of ideology. I will say this. A broken clock is right twice a day.
6:35 Tracy V. Wilson? Okay.
6:38 Holly Frey? And I did find it is listed in that PhD paper that we read as like a footnote that she found in something else. So I didn't include it in the episode because at that point it's many times removed from anything I can look up and verify. But she noted that she found in a thing, um, someone mentioning Fairchild's list of immoral behaviors.
7:03 Tracy V. Wilson? Uh huh.
7:03 Holly Frey? And there are a couple of things in this that I was like, well, yeah, that's right.
7:08 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
7:08 Holly Frey? Um, so one of them is opposition to proof of another's theories because of jealousy.
7:16 Tracy V. Wilson? Okay.
7:17 Holly Frey? Degenerating into a propagandist of an unproved hypothesis instead of being true to the research purpose of discovering truth.
7:25 Tracy V. Wilson? Okay.
7:26 Holly Frey? That sounds great. We all need to learn that all the time. And then cowardice in supporting a verified generalization because it is unpopular and conflicts with selfish interests. I'm like, yeah, that's all true.
7:39 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
7:40 Holly Frey? Why are you so messed up?
7:45 Tracy V. Wilson? I also think like, you know, teaching kids about things like honesty.
7:52 Holly Frey? Great.
7:53 Tracy V. Wilson? Like, fine, fine. Not, I'm not saying that that shouldn't happen. But like that, the list of laws really exemplifies the way that a lot of thinking in our culture and history has been like, if you're able bodied, you're good.
8:19 Holly Frey? Yeah.
8:19 Tracy V. Wilson? But if you're not able bodied, obviously you're bad and it's your own fault somehow. And you should have not done that. And boy, did I hate reading that.
8:32 Holly Frey? It's awful. It's awful. The whole idea that kids were basically going to be put in camps if they weren't moral.
8:40 Tracy V. Wilson? Yep.
8:41 Holly Frey? Or incarcerated.
8:42 Tracy V. Wilson? Right.
8:42 Holly Frey? Is so horrifying. Can you, I mean, I, I of course, because I'm a self-centered person, because I'm a human. You know, you always project yourself into these scenarios and I would be like, listen, I was the kid that always had Holly Lacks self-control written on every one of my report cards. Because I wanted to chitter chatter with everybody in class. I would be a kid that sat in incarceration in his world because I never learned that lesson. I never learned not to say bad words or yell when people made me angry.
9:16 Holly Frey? And it's like, it's something that simple that literally would make you considered not worthy of being in society. And I'm like, this also reaches a tipping point. Pretend none of it is even about the incarceration of people that don't pass the morality code. At what point is a code like this invoked to keep people down? Do you know what I mean? Like, if you have this and kids are doing this every day and they're reciting all of the ways that they're going to adhere to these laws of morality. What happens when that kid comes into a situation that they have not been prepared for, where a person in power is doing something wrong?
10:01 Holly Frey? Because they have been taught to be loyal and to not complain.
10:06 Tracy V. Wilson? Right.
10:06 Holly Frey? And to like.
10:08 Tracy V. Wilson? Right.
10:09 Holly Frey? Nope. That's a big nopa lope.
10:16 Holly Frey? I, it, it made me so angry. It made me so angry that I was like, we have to talk about this.
10:21 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
10:22 Holly Frey? It's gonna suck, but we have to talk about it.
10:25 Tracy V. Wilson? Yes.
10:27 Holly Frey? Yuck. Also, on the like, you know, Bravo TV edition of this whole thing, we never found out, to the best of my knowledge, who the person was that put up that money.
10:39 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah, I, um, so in addition to being like, hey, man, this sounds like Nazis. What's happening? Uh, I went to try to figure out what this organization was because that was not a name I recognized from, you know, the list of historical organizations in my head. And I found this one, one thing that like listed all, all the members and advisors and stuff like that. And I was like, who was this businessman that paid for this, though? And that was not in there?
11:10 Holly Frey? Nope, I never found it. Never found it. It's interesting. I know the work of, uh, the researchers that did the inquiry, that oversaw it, Edward Thorndike, he had been funded in his work, which was similarly trying to like dismantle these ideas. Or like show that they're not effective, was funded both by Rockefeller and Carnegie. So I was like, well, those are the two people I would have suspected of putting up the money. So if they were working against it, who was this mystery person?
11:54 Holly Frey? And we will never know. Maybe it was one of them. I don't know.
11:57 Tracy V. Wilson? Maybe we will know at some point when somebody's writing a dissertation on some businessman and finds the transaction in their ledger somewhere.
12:07 Holly Frey? Right. The 1916 $5,000, or it might've been earlier, right? Because it might've been.
12:14 Tracy V. Wilson? Oh, sure.
12:15 Holly Frey? Allocated before when the, the thing was announced.
12:19 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
12:20 Holly Frey? And the $20,000, like that, I mean, that was a lot of money. At the time. So that is a significant transaction.
12:27 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
12:28 Holly Frey? Oh, I ache to know who it was. I ache. Who would have had a vested interest? Anyway, I could think and theorize for a very long time. But I don't, we, we may not ever know, or we may find out. I don't know. Um, I'm sure glad that they stopped doing that.
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17:07 Tracy V. Wilson? One of this week's episodes was on Mary Hunter Austin.
17:10 Holly Frey? Yeah.
17:11 Tracy V. Wilson? Uh, who I really thought that I was gonna be writing an episode that was about walking in the desert and reading lots of quotes about the, her beautiful descriptions of the desert landscapes and the desert peoples that she was so in love with. And that was, that was not the episode that we got.
17:29 Holly Frey? No.
17:30 Tracy V. Wilson? Um, I did not intend this episode as like a counterpoint to Harriet Russell Williams Strong, who we talked about last year.
17:40 Holly Frey? I was gonna ask if she came up in the, the friction stories about the irrigation issues.
17:47 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah, I did not. Yeah, I did not see Harriet Russell Williams Strong's name mentioned in any of it. But as I was doing the research on Mary Austin, I was like, what, why does this sound so familiar? We've talked about this on the show. When did we talk about it? Uh, and just enough time had passed that I had to go digging to bring to mind what episode that was in. In addition to that dispute, it seems like Mary Austin had some conflicts with people. Um, we mentioned John Muir at the beginning of the episode. I don't
18:28 Tracy V. Wilson? know what their disagreements were, but one of the sources that I used mentioned that there were disagreements, that they butted heads in some way. And I was like, I wish I could find the details about that.
18:41 Holly Frey? Right.
18:42 Tracy V. Wilson? We, um, we talked, uh, we talked.
18:45 Holly Frey? Drama.
18:46 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah. Um, we talked about like being threatened with a lawsuit by H.G. Wells and having a, a heart attack and the stress of all that. There was also apparently a falling out with Willa Cather.
18:59 Holly Frey? She just had all the greatest hits of arguments.
19:02 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah. And I don't think, I don't think we mentioned Willa Cather at all in the, in the episode, but she met Willa, Willa Cather probably sometime in like the 19 teens. They became friends. In 1926, Mary was going to be away to have an abdominal surgery, unrelated, I think, to the breast cancer diagnosis, which I have various questions about.
19:26 Holly Frey? Me too also.
19:28 Tracy V. Wilson? Which they're unresolved. I have no answers to the questions about her breast cancer diagnosis. But she was going to be in St. Louis, having an abdominal surgery. And Willa Cathar was going to be passing through her neighborhood and she was like, hey, you can stay at my house while I'm away. And Willa Cathar said, great. And she wrote part of Death Comes for the Archbishop, staying there at Mary Austin's house. And she acknowledged, like, she acknowledged this, I think, in an inscribed book that she gave to Mary later on. But in Earth Horizon,
20:07 Tracy V. Wilson? Mary Hunter called Willa Cathar's praise of a French missionary priest's a calamity. And Willa Cathar, like, publicly denied having written any part of any book at Mary Austin's home. And I was like, yeah, we're just having arguments everywhere.
20:30 Tracy V. Wilson? I think she may have met Willa Cathar at Mabel Dodge Lujan's house. That was the wife of Tony Lujan, who was the person that they had worked with to get permission to take pictures at Taos Pueblo.
20:44 Holly Frey? Yeah.
20:45 Tracy V. Wilson? Mary Dodge Lujan seems like an incredibly fascinating person to maybe possibly do an episode about one day. She was an heiress and a promoter of the arts and her home became kind of a gathering place, or their home. They were married. They became a gathering place and a retreat for writers and artists. And that included people like Georgia O'Keeffe and Willa Cathar. So she was sort of a central figure in the literature and arts and culture of this part of the US.
21:13 Holly Frey? Yeah, I'm, I'm, I, I don't.
21:18 Holly Frey? I know you have no answers, but I'm like, oh, she lived way past the 1909. Huh, I guess I'm not dying of breast cancer moment, so I think I'll go to Italy. Like, a long time after that.
21:33 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah, I have absolutely no detail on, like, what kind of examination she was given when she was told that she had breast cancer. I have no idea what diagnostic tools went into that.
21:50 Tracy V. Wilson? Really no sense of what her symptoms were, besides this arm pain that had led her to go to the doctor.
21:57 Holly Frey? Right.
21:58 Tracy V. Wilson? I just have a lot of questions.
22:00 Holly Frey? Yeah.
22:01 Tracy V. Wilson? About all of that.
22:02 Holly Frey? Me too, also.
22:05 Tracy V. Wilson? I have a lot of feelings about her daughter Ruth.
22:10 Holly Frey? Yeah.
22:13 Tracy V. Wilson? Because part of, like, the time when, when Mary was trying to, to parent Ruth with no resources, some of that sounds awful, really awful. I'm not really completely clear on how old Ruth was when Mary would go to work as a teacher and leave her by herself at home.
22:37 Holly Frey? Right.
22:37 Tracy V. Wilson? Um, like, whether she was of an age that people might think that was okay. It, it seems like she was, she did not have the ability that she would needed, that she would have needed to, like, do that safely. So some of this just sounds really terrible. But the judgment that people passed on her for finding other arrangements was also really awful.
23:02 Holly Frey? Yeah.
23:03 Tracy V. Wilson? I felt, like, personally, I had personal feelings about that because, my mom, her entire career was working with disabled people. She started working with disabled adults in a day program, teaching things like literacy and math and life skills and things like that in a, in like a day program. And most of the adults that she worked with. Might be able to like live in a group home setting or with family, some kind of situation where they had additional help and additional support. But then she started working with children in a long-term care facility and the children that she worked with, a lot of them had multiple disabilities. A lot of them had, I mean, all of them, all of them had multiple disabilities.
23:48 Tracy V. Wilson? All of them had very high support needs. And a lot of them also had medical needs where they really needed like 24-hour Right. Medical care onsite. So like kids that needed breathing support, that needed to be suctioned on a regular basis or had feeding tubes or some kind of stoma on their body, like all kinds of things like that. And sure, there were parents that, that probably seemed inattentive or callous in that whole situation. There were also a lot of parents where it was like, what was the other option, right? Like this child needs care all the time. This child needs a lot of support all the time.
24:28 Tracy V. Wilson? The whole family also needs to have a home and eat and have electricity and all of that. Yeah. And so like it may not be possible for this child to be cared for at home. There are some ways for people to be cared for at home, but a lot of times those are extraordinarily expensive. They can be really hard to arrange. And sometimes there are just ways to have subsidized care in a residential facility that doesn't exist for somebody trying to stay at home. But people spoke about the parents whose children were living at this facility with
25:07 Tracy V. Wilson? a very broad brush and spoke as though everyone was just awful for having to place their child. And sometimes I'm just like, what would the other option be though? Right.
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29:03 Holly Frey? Take the fact that Ruth was disabled out of it.
29:09 Holly Frey? Which is, you know, not to erase her or anything, but like, even if Mary had...
29:17 Holly Frey? What would be called an easy baby, right? A kid that like hits all of their developmental marks, isn't especially fussy, seems well adjusted. She did not have a good model of parenthood to work from to begin with.
29:32 Tracy V. Wilson? Oh, sure.
29:32 Holly Frey? So even if she had a child with no disabilities, perfectly, you know, healthy and had, had just an easy time in the world, I don't know that she would have been equipped with the tools to know how to be a great mom.
29:47 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
29:47 Holly Frey? Which like, especially at this time, when it's not like there were a kajillion parenting books, and particularly not for parenting kids with disabilities.
29:59 Tracy V. Wilson? Right.
29:59 Holly Frey? Where was she gonna learn any of that?
30:01 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah. Well, and also with her husband not really involved.
30:05 Holly Frey? Right. She's essentially a single parent.
30:08 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah. She still would have needed to work, to earn enough money to keep them housed and fed. So yeah, it's, it's, there are times in the accounts of that where I was like, wow, this sounds awful. And in this, you know, in this part of the situation, it seems like she did something really messed up. But there are also a lot of times where it seems like she was doing her best with no resources in a society that had no resources, that didn't even consider that there needed to be resources.
30:38 Holly Frey? Right.
30:40 Tracy V. Wilson? For disabled children and their families. None of which I was prepared to be writing an episode about.
30:48 Holly Frey? Surprise.
30:50 Tracy V. Wilson? When I thought we were gonna have an episode about walking in the desert.
30:53 Holly Frey? Surprise.
30:54 Tracy V. Wilson? So yeah, yeah. A lot of Mary Hunter Austin's work is in the public domain, not all of it. Some of it is a little bit too recent to have come into the public domain yet. So there is a lot of it that you can read on places like, you know, archive.org and Project Gutenberg and places like that. I feel like her assertion that she could figure out English and writing on her own, and she wanted to spend her college education on something else, that there was some hubris there. Because it does seem like she struggled to work out things like,
31:37 Tracy V. Wilson? you know, craft and style and all of that. One of the reasons it took her a really long time to get longer work published, it wasn't in addition, in addition to the fact that she was trying to care for a child. She was having to kind of learn as she went. Things like structure and form and
31:55 Holly Frey? Right.
31:56 Tracy V. Wilson? and all of that.
31:59 Tracy V. Wilson? I also have only read some of some of her works. By no means have I tried to do a thorough survey of all of it in the time we have to prepare a podcast. Her almost one book a year for 32 years.
32:16 Holly Frey? What? You didn't buzz through 30 books real quick?
32:19 Tracy V. Wilson? Well, difficult, difficult.
32:22 Holly Frey? What are you, a quitter?
32:26 Holly Frey? I am working on an episode upcoming about a writer that I love and even revisiting all of their works is like,
32:33 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
32:34 Holly Frey? taking some effort and time.
32:36 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
32:37 Holly Frey? Lot of audiobook action going on.
32:39 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
32:42 Tracy V. Wilson? If you want to send us a note about this or any other podcast or history podcast, iHeartRadio.com. Whatever is coming up for you on your weekend. I hope it is as good and smooth as possible. If you've got stuff in your life happening right now, I know a lot of us do stuff that's not great. I hope you're able to take some moments for yourself to take some deep breaths.
33:09 Tracy V. Wilson? Maybe get yourself a little treat of some sort. Maybe just sit under a tree where things are starting to turn green and bloom here in the northern hemisphere. If you're in the southern hemisphere, getting ready to look at the oncoming of winter. I hope it's going to be a great winter.
33:26 Holly Frey? Indeed.
33:27 Tracy V. Wilson? I guess autumn is closer because we're getting just about to spring. We're not exactly to summer yet. I just visited my parents and was able to cut some of the earliest blooming flowers in the yard to bring in to my mom.
33:40 Holly Frey? Nice.
33:41 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
33:41 Holly Frey? Nice.
33:43 Tracy V. Wilson? We will be back with the Saturday classic tomorrow and with something brand new on Monday.
33:53 Tracy V. Wilson? Stuff You Missed in History Class is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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36:08 Holly Frey? A rare disease diagnosis can change your life, but it doesn't have to define your future. In season seven of Untold Stories: Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition, host Martine Hackett continues the conversation with people living with MG, CIDP, and the broader rare disease community, exploring what comes after diagnosis through stories of hope, progress, and connection. Produced by Ruby Studio in partnership with Argenx. Listen on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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