"You're Gonna Get Me In Huge Trouble": Adam Friedland Is a League Source Now

The alleged Jon Stewart of his generation steps down from his YouTube throne and into our studio to discuss what LeBron's agent taught him; why the hell Pablo watched the Super Bowl with socialists; how it felt to audition for the role of SBF; and what PTFO revealed to his dad (about how Democrats can be evil, too). Plus: Clavicular, Bob Kraft, David Stern, Lena Dunham, the real-life Rod Tidwell... and Tony Kornheiser protesting the only thing tech has made that's good. • Subscribe to The Adam Friedland Show https://pod.link/1113585468 • Get tickets to see Adam Friedland live https://theadamfriedland.show/pages/tour Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:00Pablo Torre?

  Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre and today we're gonna find out what this sound is.

• 0:06Speaker 01

  If David Stern were commissioner, Pablo would be dead.

• 0:11Speaker 01

  What do you think about that?

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• 1:22Pablo Torre?

  Can we talk about your meeting with Rich Paul?

• 1:25Speaker 01

  I mean, it's funny. Yeah, I mean, why would, why would I not, I mean?

• 1:31Pablo Torre?

  Are you a Clutch client now? Are you a member of?

• 1:33Speaker 01

  They are UTA.

• 1:34Pablo Torre?

  Yes, UTA owns Clutch.

• 1:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37Pablo Torre?

  LeBron's agency, which is Rich Paul's agency, and not LeBron's agency for various CBA reasons.

• 1:42Speaker 01

  Whatever's happened in my life in the last year is hilarious, because I'm going to blow it so badly.

• 1:48Pablo Torre?

  I talked to you on the phone, you were in LA, and you were like, "I have a meeting with Rich Paul."

• 1:53Speaker 01

  I said as a joke to UTA when they were trying to sign me, and the next time I'm in Los Angeles, I demand a meeting with Mr. Rich Paul. And they were like, yeah, they thought it was serious. But I guess I talked to him about podcasting, because now he's going into the podcasting space.

• 2:10Pablo Torre?

  He's one of us.

• 2:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I think they told him that I was like David Letterman or something. And he's like, tell me about your process, your motive. And I was like.

• 2:18Pablo Torre?

  Did he tent his fingers like that?

• 2:19Speaker 01

  No. He was doing golf in the, in the office. Golf swing with a club, like it was like a movie. So cool. Yeah, yeah. But then like at a certain point, um, he was taking calls. Like the last 15 minutes, we had a great conversation for 45 minutes. I was making him laugh. And then I think he'll come do the show, so we'll tell the story on the show. So I think this should be fine. But then at a certain point, I'm like loitering in the most powerful agent, probably in basketball's office.

• 2:48Pablo Torre?

  Certainly the guy who has created the most headlines recently.

• 2:53Speaker 01

  I think dollar amount Scott Boris is probably number one still.

• 2:57Pablo Torre?

  Yes. And like Jerry Maguire, the real life Jerry Maguire, Lee Steinberg.

• 3:00Speaker 01

  That's a real guy.

• 3:02Pablo Torre?

  Jerry Maguire is a guy named Lee Steinberg.

• 3:04Speaker 01

  Next, you're gonna tell me that, uh, Rod Tidwell is real. Who's that supposed to be?

• 3:11Pablo Torre?

  I would guess that Rod Tidwell was inspired by any number of like Michael Irvin types.

• 3:15Speaker 01

  Yes, yeah.

• 3:16Pablo Torre?

  If I had to guess.

• 3:17Speaker 01

  Loyal, loyal guys.

• 3:19Pablo Torre?

  Who want money.

• 3:19Speaker 01

  And next you're gonna tell me the goldfish was real. Next, you're gonna tell me Renee Zellweger is a real person.

• 3:26Pablo Torre?

  Jonathan Lipnicki was right. The human head weighs eight pounds.

• 3:29Speaker 01

  I saw a picture of him as an adult recently.

• 3:32Pablo Torre?

  Can you describe him? Because I did too.

• 3:34Speaker 01

  He's like five, two yoked guy.

• 3:36Pablo Torre?

  He's clavicular, actually. He became clavicular.

• 3:39Speaker 01

  I lost my big Friday interview also.

• 3:42Pablo Torre?

  What happened?

• 3:42Speaker 01

  He's got charged with two felonies in Arizona. He can't leave the state. Today, clavicular, a kick streamer has been arrested in Scottsdale, Arizona. Here's one pic, one version that I saw of the Quongo mugshot, and here's another one over here.

• 3:56Pablo Torre?

  So for people who don't know who clavicular is, it's hard to describe him. He is a looks maxer, which basically if you're to translate it is what?

• 4:03Speaker 01

  I suppose it's, uh, creating an idealized, uh.

• 4:07Speaker 01

  Kind of version of of self, of masculinity. Enhancing one's jaw, enhancing one's kind of facial features to fit some sort of criteria that they have for like the best looking guy.

• 4:21Speaker 03

  Right.

• 4:21Speaker 01

  And it it really is a-

• 4:22Speaker 03

  Golden ratio, like, ah, there's like a math and an objectivity to-

• 4:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's really- Some of the smartest stuff you can imagine. The interesting thing is, it's a audience of men, really.

• 4:35Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 4:36Speaker 01

  And so he's not like, it's someone being sexy not for like tween girls, be like, ooh la la. It's someone, someone being sexy for guys. And then, and then the objective is, is to kind of, to mog another sexy guy. And-

• 4:54Speaker 03

  Which, and mogging is to, I think we used to call it like alpha-ing.

• 4:58Speaker 01

  Alpha-ing, I think they, they're, they probably still do.

• 5:02Speaker 03

  There's a hole.

• 5:03Speaker 01

  Are we pedophiles? I mean, like, this is just disgusting that we know even any of this. You're supposed to come in.

• 5:09Speaker 03

  Such a perfect Adam Friedland show guest.

• 5:12Speaker 01

  He has me blocked in every corner. Cause like my, the first question I have is like, have you ever made a girl laugh with a funny joke? And then, but that's jester maxing and that's cope. Obviously, that's what I'm doing. And now, it made me look in the mirror. It's like, obviously, I have bells on my hat, I've been juggling and tricking these women into sleeping with me. He knows exactly what my scheme is.

• 5:35Speaker 03

  Right, your cortisol was spiking.

• 5:37Speaker 01

  He's right. I had to learn how to be funny to attract the opposite sex. And I didn't, I could have just been breaking the bones in my face.

• 5:46Speaker 03

  Rather be with a hammer, with your fists, either or, to, you know, grow your bones and get a more masculine, chiseled face.

• 5:53Speaker 04

  You smashed your face in, and what'd you do after? Like, you went to the doctor and they reconstructed you, or?

• 5:57Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no, so just small micro fractures and the bone grows back stronger according to-

• 6:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, the calcium.

• 6:03Speaker 03

  Like, how, a hammer, or? Uh, usually, I'll use my fists. So like, I'll just lay down to my bed and brace my head so that there's no CTE.

• 6:11Pablo Torre?

  I saw that he was streaming from his hearing in Arizona.

• 6:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:16Pablo Torre?

  Like, he somehow got, he was like co-streaming the feed from like the correctional?

• 6:20Speaker 01

  Everything has like gotten like, just-

• 6:23Pablo Torre?

  Robocop.

• 6:24Speaker 01

  But it's like caveman. Like, a mog off is like MMA, just the stare down, not, not the fight part. Right, isn't that?

• 6:34Speaker 01

  Everything is just like, what if like, uh, we just stripped out all these extra elements behind things that already exist?

• 6:40Pablo Torre?

  What if we were just in our underwear, one inch from each other's nose tips and stared? And jester maxed?

• 6:47Speaker 01

  Yeah. MMA is like, what if like, we didn't use bums? Famously from the website, bum fights.

• 6:53Pablo Torre?

  Bum fights, yeah.

• 6:54Speaker 01

  That might be one of the most reprehensible things from our, from our younger days.

• 6:59Pablo Torre?

  But now everything is bum fights.

• 7:01Speaker 01

  Everything is kind of bum fights. Have you ever seen, um, these, the, uh, pedophile hunter guys?

• 7:07Pablo Torre?

  Yes.

• 7:07Speaker 01

  Streamers?

• 7:08Pablo Torre?

  I have.

• 7:08Speaker 01

  It is kind of end of history stuff, because they, To Catch a Predator guy, and more often than not, it's like a developmentally...

• 7:16Pablo Torre?

  There are cognitive concerns when you watch these videos of like...

• 7:19Speaker 01

  They don't have them arrested also. They just like, throw like, uh, like, like flour or something on them.

• 7:25Pablo Torre?

  They chase them around, I think, and they publicly humiliate them.

• 7:29Speaker 01

  And then, but, but now, like, rappers will go on the pedophile hunter thing and, and, uh, promote an album on, uh, the To Catch a Predator stream guy. It's so sad watching it. And then the guy hits them. He, he like, he'll like slap them across the face and he's like, you like kids? And then like Akon will be like, locked up? Yeah.

• 7:51Speaker 05

  Please, brother.

• 7:53Speaker 01

  You might wanna sing along with me on this one.

• 7:54Speaker 05

  Oh, I don't know.

• 7:55Speaker 01

  You might wanna sing along with me on this one.

• 7:57Speaker 05

  No.

• 7:57Speaker 01

  You're about to get locked up, they won't let you out. They won't let you out, locked up, they won't let you out. I was very content not knowing what anything was until I started the show, and now I have to like, drill into like, these different like...

• 8:16Pablo Torre?

  Now you're hunting pedophile hunters.

• 8:19Speaker 01

  Well, genuinely speaking, my objective for the Adam Friedland Show is this. This is my thesis. If it goes into a time capsule, in 50 years' time, if someone washes an episode back, they'll be like, "That sucked."

• 8:33Speaker 01

  Like what they, like as a document of culture and, you know, 2026, that, what the was that? You know, that's, that's kind of my-

• 8:42Pablo Torre?

  On what level do you want it to suck?

• 8:44Speaker 01

  I want it to reflect kind of like, you know, to the extent that, oh yeah, BB's going on the Nelk Boys podcast in the middle of a genocide, right? Like, that sucks.

• 8:58Speaker 06

  So what's, what's your message to why, because a lot of Americans don't think we should support Israel at all? That means you don't support America. Because for the terrorists, you know what? The terrorists are fighting us because they say we're America and America is Israel. We have the same free societies, the same free values. They want to drive us back to the dark ages of this tyranny. And Americans who say that, I think, basically say, okay, so you support those who chant death to America? Those who want to eliminate America? That's crazy. Oh, oh boy. This is- Nicest breath though. This is service. This is service. That's what we do on the Full Sun Pod.

• 9:34Speaker 06

  Thanks.

• 9:34Speaker 01

  Like hyping a genocide on a tranks and lifestyle and chugging and partying lifestyle content podcast is absurd. It's insane.

• 10:02Pablo Torre?

  Can you interview me as if I'm clavicular? What would you want? How would you have gone about this?

• 10:07Speaker 01

  I'm gonna hold him to it. I'm still gonna do it. But you have to like, look at it as a 19-year-old, right? Which is like-

• 10:13Pablo Torre?

  Oh, God.

• 10:14Speaker 01

  That's, that's the thing is like, okay, two things. There isn't a conversation culturally about the collective trauma that all of us have about lockdown, right? I think when COVID comes up, the extent to which we discuss it is Fauci, vaccine, Pfizer, yada, yada.

• 10:39Speaker 01

  He was a kid.

• 10:41Pablo Torre?

  He was thirteen.

• 10:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, and he was looking at pictures of hot guys. He's like, I'm gonna be the hottest guy on the phone. I mean, Covid didn't invent the phone, but there was only the phone for two years. And, uh, yeah, I think, anecdotally, I don't know anyone who died of the virus, thankfully. But I know a lot of people who have committed suicide and overdosed on drugs and, uh, who have, you know, relapsed on drugs. And when I think about kids, uh, you know, how many kids had like unhappy households and then couldn't see their friends at school for two years and only had the phone?

• 11:20Speaker 01

  So him being a nineteen, twenty year old, you know, hopefully, you know, he'll look back on it and he'll be like, that was lame as hell, but he's made a lot of money from it.

• 11:33Pablo Torre?

  Right.

• 11:34Speaker 01

  And maybe try and be nicer to girls. I think when it comes to young people, the only way they're discussed in popular, I guess, discourse is like their genitals and like sex changes and stuff and, uh,

• 11:48Pablo Torre?

  We are living at a

• 11:49Speaker 01

  It's kind of mean.

• 11:50Pablo Torre?

  The word cloud around kids in America has definitely been like pedophiles in like one thousand point font.

• 11:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, it's, it's, trans is kind of dominates the only way that we talk about kids.

• 12:03Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, no, it's genitals, you're right. It's genitals. It's really genitals.

• 12:07Speaker 01

  It's their

• 12:07Pablo Torre?

  It's all the way down, it's genitals.

• 12:09Speaker 01

  I have a cousin who, uh, third cousin, who's at Harvard, uh, uh, getting a PhD in child happiness. And these are dyed in the wool libs, like, uh, uh, like Biden, uh, Harris t-shirt kind of people. And, uh, yeah, he's studying child happiness in places where they locked down and where they didn't. And, uh, he said that suicide rates, uh, rates of mental illness is night and day. And this is not an indictment of the concept of lockdown. This is an indictment of the fact that we don't have a broader conversation about the fact that kids weren't The world kinda sucked for them. They weren't promised a better future.

• 12:50Speaker 01

  And I think, to some extent, uh, looks maxing is an extension of their, uh, declaring one's identity and having agency at least over something. And also, there's a, an aspect of it that's communal, you know?

• 13:06Pablo Torre?

  And it's like ostensibly self-improvement. And the video that, uh, Clavicular is all over my timeline because admittedly, I keep watching the videos.

• 13:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's so hot.

• 13:19Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, I mean, his cheekbones, his, the cheekbones, he shattered into perfect angular shape.

• 13:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:25Pablo Torre?

  But the video that I saw, which is haunting, is him out in the wild with like his girlfriend.

• 13:33Speaker 03

  I tried this [BLEEP] the other day that... What up, homie?

• 13:36Speaker 05

  Yo, you think you can sign my, sell my album?

• 13:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, I got you, man.

• 13:39Speaker 05

  I'm your pen, man.

• 13:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, no worries.

• 13:41Speaker 05

  Deborah, we've been on your ass since the moment you were streaming, since November.

• 13:45Speaker 03

  Oh, hell yeah, dude. Good stuff.

• 13:47Speaker 05

  You doing, take a, a stream photo?

• 13:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, let's do it, man.

• 13:49Speaker 05

  I bet. Alright, in the count of three. [BLEEP] Al Hitler. Three, two, one. [BLEEP] Al Hitler.

• 13:56Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 13:57Speaker 05

  Love you, Clavicular.

• 13:58Pablo Torre?

  And immediately, like, Clavicular, who is, again, the, the sort of like paragon of this movement, the shattered and refashioned face of it.

• 14:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:08Pablo Torre?

  You sort of watch him realize what happens when he encounters his community?

• 14:12Speaker 01

  Right.

• 14:13Pablo Torre?

  In real life?

• 14:14Speaker 01

  It's a come-to-Jesus kind of moment.

• 14:16Speaker 05

  I'm like known in Orlando as like the Asian Magg, or I would have the honor if you could verify me as the Orlando Asian Magg.

• 14:25Speaker 03

  Bro.

• 14:26Speaker 05

  Honor is, honor is mine.

• 14:29Speaker 03

  I don't know. You guys are kinda cringe, bro. It's just gonna be real, you know?

• 14:34Speaker 05

  Alright, y'all have a good one.

• 14:39Speaker 03

  Kind of cringe. That was like the most gay thing ever.

• 14:46Pablo Torre?

  I find it incredibly interesting because every once in a while, a new character pops up and you're like, "Oh, this is farcical and I don't want to spend a second of my time thinking about it." And then you think about it and you keep thinking about it. And he is just, in a way that I both understand and also find deeply sad, is like very dismissive and condescending to them for doing the thing that they thought they were supposed to do because they do it on the internet, but they did in real life. And it's just, it makes him now realize, "Oh, this makes me feel pathetic."

• 15:15Speaker 01

  It's fascinating because there are like a million of these different things that are super famous that you've never heard of. And then you hear of it and you're like...

• 15:27Pablo Torre?

  Your role in whatever the media sort of like industry is now is somebody who can engage with all of these characters. When I say clavicular is a perfect guess for you, it's like, "Oh, you have the ability to both see it in a way that is, I would say, unsparing, but also clearly..." I mean, you started from a position of like genuine empathy of like, "Man, this... Imagine being this kid six years ago."

• 15:55Speaker 01

  Well, we sucked at 19. We sucked. We were awful at 19, you know?

• 16:02Speaker 01

  It's fine to suck at 19, you know? It's fine. So you missed the Super Bowl because you did a socialism stream. See, this stuff is ruining our lives. You used to know Woody Page. You used to get points for your... And I don't understand how Tony Reali was tough but fair. But sometimes it seemed a little bit arbitrary.

• 16:27Pablo Torre?

  I was sitting on...

• 16:28Speaker 01

  Our lives used to be nice.

• 16:30Pablo Torre?

  You have gotten to have meetings with Rich Paul.

• 16:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:35Pablo Torre?

  And I spent six hours on a couch and it was a beautiful welcoming couch with Hassan Piker on his Twitch stream, watching the Super Bowl. And by that, I mean, holding up my phone and watching it on my phone on mute because he didn't care about the Super Bowl. And I should have known that when I said, hey, he was in New York, he was like, let's finally like, get together. And I was like, what if we did something during the Super Bowl? And then he asked, what time is the Super Bowl? And I still decided to do this. And so I-

• 17:06Speaker 01

  Imagine-

• 17:06Pablo Torre?

  That's on me.

• 17:07Speaker 01

  Explaining, going on the Hassan Piker stream to Tony. Imagine explaining to Tony-

• 17:14Pablo Torre?

  I can't.

• 17:15Speaker 01

  Okay. Yeah, watch the stream. What do you mean? He's a communist? But he has big muscles? Oh, so he's some sort of wimp, right? No, no, he has big muscles. But, and you were watching on your phone. Oh, Noah Coleman was there. I know him from the meetings, of course. I know from the-

• 17:32Pablo Torre?

  That's right. That's right.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  Thanks.

• 17:35Pablo Torre?

  Oh, God. Felix was there, too.

• 17:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, real sports fan.

• 17:39Pablo Torre?

  Yeah.

• 17:40Speaker 01

  Well, he knows MMA.

• 17:41Pablo Torre?

  Oh, my God. Yes, he talked about MMA at length and I was, I was outclassed by, by him on-

• 17:47Speaker 01

  Have you seen Felix's documentary, Fighting in the Age of Loneliness?

• 17:52Pablo Torre?

  Oh, my God.

• 17:53Speaker 01

  It's like, uh-

• 17:54Pablo Torre?

  The one he did with John Boyz, the, uh-

• 17:57Speaker 01

  It's a, uh, like, uh-

• 17:59Pablo Torre?

  Yes, the one, yes, yes. I didn't, I didn't connect that that's, I'm such a, I, I am a poser now. I'm like-

• 18:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:08Pablo Torre?

  Sitting on this couch with these, with your, with, with stars in your wing of the internet and realizing, oh, my God.

• 18:16Speaker 01

  Couch? What kind of couch? Was it a casting couch? So you missed the game?

• 18:22Speaker 01

  Drake may really, the left side of the line did not protect him. Who was that on the left side of the line?

• 18:29Pablo Torre?

  Will Campbell. Yeah.

• 18:31Speaker 01

  They were just getting-

• 18:32Pablo Torre?

  It was destroyed.

• 18:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:33Pablo Torre?

  Bad. Really, really bad.

• 18:35Speaker 01

  Yeah. You missed, they did some sort of Spanish halftime. I couldn't understand it, but the guy, woof, he was a real looker.

• 18:45Speaker 01

  They had Lady Gaga and Ricky Martin, though. Big fans. Yeah.

• 18:49Pablo Torre?

  I was talking to Kornheiser yesterday, and I was talking about The Washington Post and all this stuff. And I was reminded that he refuses to ever stay in an Airbnb.

• 19:00Speaker 01

  He's the best.

• 19:01Pablo Torre?

  He's like, why would I want to do it in someone else's home?

• 19:04Speaker 01

  He's the best. He's the best.

• 19:05Pablo Torre?

  And he just like couldn't even begin to comprehend.

• 19:08Speaker 01

  It blows my mind.

• 19:09Pablo Torre?

  Why that's a, why that's a company.

• 19:11Speaker 01

  It's the best company ever. Think about it. We're gonna have a, we'll have a hotel. Oh, uh, where? Everywhere. Oh, yeah, but like it'll cost a lot of money to like clean it and stuff. No, no, no, they do that for us.

• 19:23Pablo Torre?

  They're gonna do it.

• 19:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:24Pablo Torre?

  Or we make them pay us more.

• 19:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, we'll need like a, a bunch of people like to manage it. No, no, no, no, no one. We'll need four lawyers in Palo Alto and like a couple tech support guys. We'll outsource that. It is like, it's, it's sinister how good that is.

• 19:43Pablo Torre?

  It's, it's.

• 19:44Speaker 01

  It's the only thing tech has made that's good. Well, it's not even good. Your girlfriend wants to go to [BLEEP] Maine. It's ruined, it's ruined our lives.

• 20:01Pablo Torre?

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• 21:12Pablo Torre?

  What was your favorite part of the Super Bowl?

• 21:13Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 21:14Pablo Torre?

  The Bob Kraft commercial?

• 21:21Speaker 08

  Do not listen to that.

• 21:22Speaker 01

  The antisemitism commercial.

• 21:24Pablo Torre?

  That's right.

• 21:25Speaker 01

  Yeah. Uh, we worked hard on it. Uh, yeah. You know who directed it?

• 21:31Pablo Torre?

  No.

• 21:32Speaker 01

  Woody Allen.

• 21:35Speaker 01

  Did you know that?

• 21:37Pablo Torre?

  Oh, God.

• 21:38Speaker 01

  I saw that. The commercials sucked. I mean-

• 21:41Pablo Torre?

  The Blue Square Alliance.

• 21:42Speaker 01

  I posted one.

• 21:43Pablo Torre?

  I saw. I saw. I liked it. I was like, I'm gonna support Adam. He needs us in this moment.

• 21:51Speaker 01

  Well, it was a bad one. I mean, last year was kinda bad too, cuz it was a blowout. We haven't had a good one in a while.

• 21:57Pablo Torre?

  It wasn't good. I do wanna point out, though, that the Bob Kraft stuff, it made me think of like, a character that you talk to me often about is your dad.

• 22:08Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yes.

• 22:10Pablo Torre?

  What does your dad think of you and this-

• 22:12Speaker 01

  He's very proud of me.

• 22:13Pablo Torre?

  Yeah.

• 22:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Finally. Finally. My dad loves this show, by the way.

• 22:18Pablo Torre?

  That's why I'm bringing it up.

• 22:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 22:19Pablo Torre?

  He's in the, uh, Pablo Rodzey, the Manila Mob.

• 22:25Speaker 01

  He's the-

• 22:26Pablo Torre?

  He's workshopping fandoms.

• 22:29Speaker 01

  Team Pablo?

• 22:30Pablo Torre?

  Team Pablo.

• 22:31Speaker 01

  Team Pacquiao? Yeah.

• 22:32Pablo Torre?

  Pacquiao.

• 22:32Speaker 01

  Cut that. Um-

• 22:34Pablo Torre?

  That was a pretty good Filipino accent.

• 22:36Speaker 01

  I saw Team Pacquiao was going cosmic bowling once at the Suncoast Casino in Las Vegas, and I saw a bunch of guys wearing t-shirts that said Team Pacquiao.

• 22:44Pablo Torre?

  I mean-

• 22:44Speaker 01

  It was pretty awesome.

• 22:45Pablo Torre?

  It was them.

• 22:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. They were out there. Um, my dad really hates the Clippers, so you, uh, yeah. And he's like, and, but, he says something crazy to me. He's like, "It's not just the Republicans that are bad, Adam. It's all of them." Cuz, uh, I guess the connection to the Obama administration. You made my dad realize that. I've been arguing for 38 years with him that it's all bad. And now his favorite, you're the favorite son, apparently. No, yeah, he would be very flattered to hear this.

• 23:16Pablo Torre?

  You had the best take, though, on my reporting.

• 23:18Speaker 01

  If David Stern were commissioner, Pablo would be dead.

• 23:23Speaker 01

  What do you think about that? You sleep with the fishes. Yeah. I mean, after All-Star, are they gonna finally, they're gonna open it up?

• 23:32Pablo Torre?

  So this will come out on Thursday, which means that we'll have dropped our sequel to the seventh part, so we'll drop part eight on Tuesday. And we'll see if, we'll see.

• 23:43Speaker 01

  What's the most paranoid you've gotten?

• 23:46Pablo Torre?

  Just when you're talking on your phone and you're like.

• 23:48Speaker 01

  Someone's breathing in the.

• 23:50Pablo Torre?

  Well, just like, I don't, I don't know. I don't know what it sounds like when your phone is tapped, but I'm certainly a bit paranoid about like, is that Verizon or is that?

• 23:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:59Pablo Torre?

  A guy with 150 billion dollars.

• 24:01Speaker 01

  It's me, Tony.

• 24:05Speaker 01

  That'd be so cool if he tapped you, because he cared. He just wants to make sure you're okay.

• 24:10Pablo Torre?

  He does care about me. He is worried about me.

• 24:13Speaker 01

  Who's gotten the most pissed at you, I guess thus far?

• 24:16Pablo Torre?

  One of them is Jordan Hudson, the ex-girlfriend who threatened to sue me but hasn't yet, and also wore a T-shirt with Orchids of Asia.

• 24:23Speaker 01

  Did you see Portnoy's quote tweet?

• 24:27Pablo Torre?

  No.

• 24:28Speaker 01

  He's like, this, not today.

• 24:30Pablo Torre?

  I mean, look, the Bob Kraft stuff is, it's all, the Epstein stuff too, like, his lawyer for that was recommended by Jeffrey Epstein, the guy Jack Goldberg.

• 24:38Speaker 01

  What, you're not allowed to have a lawyer?

• 24:44Speaker 01

  Wait, my, my dad has some medical stuff, and my sister searched the Epstein emails, and he was talking to a friend of his that has the same thing, and he's like, go see this guy, he's the best doctor. At Cedars-Sinai, he's amazing, go to. He's taking notes on the medical advice?

• 25:03Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, I mean.

• 25:04Speaker 01

  I mean, it's, we should really view it as more of a resource.

• 25:07Pablo Torre?

  Right, a WebMD. What if the Epstein files were also crowdsourced WebMD?

• 25:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, I, I, I would imagine, yeah, I, well, I had Lena Kahn on the show.

• 25:19Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, friend of the show, she's the best.

• 25:21Speaker 01

  You have the richest owner in sports mad at you. She has every one of the richest companies in the world mad at her.

• 25:28Pablo Torre?

  I love her. For that reason, if nothing else, she's.

• 25:32Speaker 01

  But it doesn't register, though, right? Like, I was like, have you ever listened to that song, "Many Men" by 50 Cent? She was like, no. I was like, never mind. I was gonna go for a joke there, but.

• 25:42Pablo Torre?

  They wished death upon her.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  But I, I said to her, I was like, you know, there was an op-ed every single day in. The Wall Street Journal, the Post, like FTC chairwoman psychopath, you know, like just trashing her. And everyone was like, what the [bleep] FTC, like, you know? And I asked her, I was like, did you ever clap back? Or like, you know, what was your response? And the thing that was most impressive about her was like, it wasn't as if like, no, I'm above that, you know, like I'm, you know, I don't play like, I don't go low. But it was more like, what? It was like, no, I have to win the lawsuit, you know? So I suppose like, that's kind of, that's kind of, should be a lesson to you is like,

• 26:24Speaker 01

  I don't know, I'll just do another, you know, do another Tattles Hail podcast.

• 26:29Pablo Torre?

  How dare you?

• 26:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. The Tattles. The public.

• 26:33Pablo Torre?

  We're gonna keep working on this. None of this feels good to me. None of this feels good.

• 26:39Speaker 01

  That your guys are the Tattles. I love that.

• 26:43Pablo Torre?

  I wanna, I wanna know, I wanna, I wanna know what advice Rich Paul wanted to know from you, speaking of tattling.

• 26:49Speaker 01

  About podcasting? He wants his show to be more like a show.

• 26:54Pablo Torre?

  So he hosts this show with Max Callum in for The Ringer and Bill Simmons?

• 26:57Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 26:57Pablo Torre?

  And it's, the way it's shot, it's like, two chairs, totally black soundstage.

• 27:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:02Pablo Torre?

  Dramatic lighting. And Rich, who I had never seen talk this much before.

• 27:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:08Pablo Torre?

  Is basically tattling on the Lakers. All the time.

• 27:13Speaker 01

  Listen.

• 27:14Pablo Torre?

  Your Lakers.

• 27:15Speaker 01

  It's UTA family. But he did say, he's like, what, like, you know, like, how could it differentiate more? And I think he probably meant production value wise. Cause I think he saw clips of the show and he was like, oh, like the Adam Friedland show, he's like, oh, this is like something similar.

• 27:31Pablo Torre?

  Did you, did you start to?

• 27:34Speaker 01

  There was a moment where he paused and, or he got off a call, cause the last 15 minutes, I was just like trying to say goodbye and he kept getting calls. And, and I was like, I'm loitering in a man's office. We had like a great chat before that. But he did, he did just look at the TV and he goes, ah, college basketball sucks.

• 27:57Speaker 01

  I don't know if I'll get in trouble for that, but yeah.

• 27:59Pablo Torre?

  No, it's a fair take.

• 28:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 28:01Pablo Torre?

  It's a fair take. But was he, did you get the sense that Rich Paul was mugging you when he was doing his golf swing?

• 28:08Speaker 01

  As well he should. I mean, like, I, I, how important of a client am I to the United Talent Agency for them to have done that? I don't know. I think the agents didn't realize, but, but, uh...

• 28:19Pablo Torre?

  Did you tell him how much?

• 28:21Speaker 01

  It was a cool style. I mean, if you, you're a corner office guy one day, like golf swing in... I did do something actually similar. I saw a behind the scenes thing about Conan, and he was in the writers' room with a guitar, like acoustic guitar, and they were pitching him jokes, and he was like noodling. And I, I do have, I do that with my staff.

• 28:43Pablo Torre?

  You're Conan maxing.

• 28:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, I Conan maxing. I always thought it was really cool. Yeah.

• 28:49Pablo Torre?

  I love the setup that you have. I mean, not only did you build the Dick Cabot set, like it's your Truman Show, but the backstage area is like, it's you and your squad, and you're like, working.

• 29:02Speaker 01

  The boys, yeah, yeah.

• 29:03Pablo Torre?

  Editing shows.

• 29:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:05Pablo Torre?

  Actually caring about making this good.

• 29:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, you don't want to do just another podcast, right?

• 29:12Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, that's the whole thesis of this, is like, how can we not do yet another show where sports takes are the entire premise?

• 29:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. So you're like, how could we just maybe more gossiping about?

• 29:26Pablo Torre?

  Scoop troupe.

• 29:27Speaker 01

  Scoop troupe.

• 29:27Pablo Torre?

  Scoop troupe.

• 29:28Speaker 01

  The scoop troupe, yeah. The gum shoes.

• 29:30Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 29:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. Uh, the, yeah, the Clouseau's, yeah. The, no, there has to be a better name for your guys.

• 29:39Pablo Torre?

  What rhymes with whistleblower?

• 29:42Pablo Torre?

  Well, again, we'll continue to workshop it.

• 29:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:45Pablo Torre?

  But you're, but the whole thing with, with you is that, I was laughing on the phone when you told me that you're meeting with Rich Paul, because you're also like the most underpendent Kobe stan that I know. Did you discuss? No, you did not.

• 29:58Speaker 01

  No, I didn't, but I, I said to him, oh, God. I can't say it. This is so funny. Like, why, like, uh, it's absurd that I found myself in this place in life. Just, I think, genuinely speaking, I remember when I call you with the Kobe memorial thing, I was like,

• 30:18Pablo Torre?

  Yes.

• 30:18Speaker 01

  And then I said, I have league sources now? Is it, are you league sources? And I'm like, wow, this is so cool.

• 30:27Pablo Torre?

  You now know things.

• 30:28Speaker 01

  Now I know things. I know a lot.

• 30:30Pablo Torre?

  I know you do.

• 30:31Speaker 01

  I know where the bodies are buried. Yeah.

• 30:32Pablo Torre?

  You know where my body would have been buried and you know where some actual bodies are buried?

• 30:37Speaker 01

  No, they would have like framed you for something. You would have been wrongfully accused.

• 30:43Speaker 01

  Right? Or, I mean, like the Tim Donaghy thing, right? Like, he was about to go in with a wire and then it leaked.

• 30:49Pablo Torre?

  Oh my god.

• 30:50Speaker 01

  Right?

• 30:50Pablo Torre?

  The whole New York Post thing.

• 30:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 30:52Pablo Torre?

  The whole thing about how somehow the Tim Donaghy scandal got scooped by a New York Post article that has since very, I would say, coincidentally been mentioned as helpful to what the NBA was trying to do.

• 31:08Speaker 01

  Do you think that, like, um, obviously in the 1980s, it was kind of the third of the major American sports? Is that right? Decidedly.

• 31:17Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Football, baseball, the NBA.

• 31:21Speaker 01

  Yeah. Had there not been a Stalinist kind of, uh, leader, right? Who knew where the bodies were buried? Do you think that the profile?

• 31:32Pablo Torre?

  Larry O'Brien, I don't think was burying nearly as many

• 31:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:35Pablo Torre?

  people allegedly.

• 31:36Speaker 01

  Yeah. Do you think that, like, that that's what it required?

• 31:40Pablo Torre?

  Well, I think the big difference with the NBA right now is that Adam Silver, and this is sort of like everything, where there's like a lot of money on the table if you want it.

• 31:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:47Pablo Torre?

  And it's in the Middle East, it's crypto, it's gambling.

• 31:52Speaker 01

  Uh huh. Shitcoins, yeah.

• 31:53Pablo Torre?

  All of it, all of it. Like crypto.com arena, you know, like all these naming rights.

• 31:58Speaker 01

  The crypt. Yeah.

• 31:59Pablo Torre?

  FTX was on the roof of the Miami Heat's building.

• 32:03Speaker 01

  It also sponsored the MLB playoffs, right?

• 32:06Pablo Torre?

  The MLB umpires had FTX on their chest protectors as well.

• 32:09Speaker 01

  You know, I was up for a role for, uh, to play Sam Bankman-Fried.

• 32:14Pablo Torre?

  In what?

• 32:15Speaker 01

  Uh, a biopic.

• 32:18Speaker 01

  I didn't sign an NDA, did I? No.

• 32:20Pablo Torre?

  Did you, did you audition?

• 32:21Speaker 01

  I worked really hard, yeah, I auditioned, yeah, yeah.

• 32:23Pablo Torre?

  Oh, so how did you prepare to play SBF?

• 32:26Speaker 01

  I worked so hard. I knew a guy at Jane Street that SBF was,

• 32:31Pablo Torre?

  Yeah.

• 32:31Speaker 01

  was, uh, uh, he was his intern when he was there, like as a college intern. I like worked really hard on it. And I was so nervous. And then the, the funny thing is like you're A, auditioning to play one of the ugliest guys of all time, right? Like, so, so that's, that's A, in and of itself hilarious. And then I got to the, it was in person, which they don't do anymore. Post-COVID, most of it is you're taping for,

• 32:59Pablo Torre?

  When, when was this?

• 33:00Speaker 01

  This was a couple of years ago, I guess this was, uh, uh, two years ago, maybe? I don't know what happened with Philip Seymour Hoffman's son, but then I think he dropped out and so, I don't know, they could have hit me up, whatever.

• 33:14Pablo Torre?

  They hit, they called up Rich Paul and they said, do you have anybody in your stable?

• 33:17Speaker 01

  They said my body was, was too buff to, to play. It wasn't dumpy enough.

• 33:22Pablo Torre?

  Can you unbreak your cheekbones?

• 33:24Speaker 01

  Actually, it was, it's, it was beyond parody, because the, I don't know if you've seen SBF's real life, uh, uh, partner, but she was,

• 33:31Pablo Torre?

  I have.

• 33:32Speaker 01

  she was, uh, you know, she was, I would say she's probably, you know, not the best. But they got this, the actress was already cast and she was gorgeous.

• 33:43Speaker 01

  It was like so funny. But I get there, I see all these other actors and like, most of them look like me and I'm like, my adrenaline's pumping, I'm being super obnoxious and like, we're sitting there and they're silent, like nervous actors. And like for me, I don't care about acting, I'm like, you just know the words, you say the crap and then you, you know, whatever. And so I'm like, yeah, it's pretty funny, we all look kind of similar and they're like, ha, ha, ha. And then one of them's like, are you, I love the show. And I was like, that's right, you fucking actors, like, you know, I'm from a YouTube Jewish style, long form talk, talk, yes, that's right. You know, who are you? And I'm assuming they're like students at Tisch or something, right? I'd like not, in my mind, they're like, these are some schmucks.

• 34:26Speaker 01

  And so they all go in for the audition and it's just me and one other guy and I'm, I'm like really just, just extra obnoxious and I'm like, and I look at him, I'm like, hey, like, uh, you're like, you do this kind of thing a lot? And he's like, yeah, um. Sometimes I was like, have you ever like been the main guy before in a movie? And he's like, the main guy?

• 34:50Speaker 01

  And I was like, you know, like the, oh, yeah, yeah, the lead. And he's like, yeah, but you wouldn't have seen my face. And I was like, oh, cartoons? And he's like, no, I'm, you know, I'm, you know, the Planet of the Apes movie that's in theaters everywhere right now. I'm the lead in the new one. And I'm like, oh, shit. And I'm like, well, this guy doesn't look Jewish. And then it dawns on me, I'm like, he can play a fucking ape. This guy could do anything. I'm screwed. I thought that they were like nobodies. Yeah, but and then I'm like, oh, yeah, these guys are all probably very successful.

• 35:25Pablo Torre?

  That ape had range, man.

• 35:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:27Pablo Torre?

  That ape really had range.

• 35:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:29Pablo Torre?

  Do you remember what any of the lines were from what you prepared?

• 35:33Speaker 01

  The casting lady was like a serious, like she like cast like Succession and Friends.

• 35:39Pablo Torre?

  I'm sure.

• 35:39Speaker 01

  And everyone's like, she's made people cry. They're like, you know, and I'm like, they're like, I'm like, but they're not even in the movie. They're like, she's, she's, you better get ready. And she was really nice. And then I talked to her for a while about it. And I was like, first of all, like, where is this monologue happening in the movie? And she's like, oh, like, that's a great question. Cause I read the full script. I'm like, it doesn't, I didn't see it anywhere. And she was like, uh, uh, you know, we had this written for the audition just to, and I was like, yeah, but the character changes throughout the movie. So it's like, what, at what point, like, uh, is, is this indicating like, uh, you know? And she was like, yeah, no one's asked that question. So that was, I guess, good.

• 36:20Speaker 01

  But everyone, I guess, uh, yeah, I was in there much longer than everyone else, probably because I was being annoying.

• 36:25Pablo Torre?

  Cause you started podcasting.

• 36:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I was like, I was like, yeah, I talked to the, the guy that was his boss at Jane Street, actually. And she's like, oh, you took this very seriously. I was like, you know, I was like, I was like, how long is this gonna take? Because like, she said, is this gonna take? She's like, yeah, it'll be in like China and like all over the world and. I was like, it would have been so funny if I got cast one time for one movie and played the lead and was just the worst actor of all time ever and then just never acted again. I think that would have actually been like really awesome, but uh, I don't know if they're making this movie. I don't know if I'm just gossiping about things this entire episode that I'm gonna get in trouble for.

• 37:06Pablo Torre?

  You're, you're a scoop trooper. I am looking this up and it does, I mean, there's plenty reported about.

• 37:11Speaker 01

  Who'd they get for, who'd they recast after, after Cooper Hoffman?

• 37:18Pablo Torre?

  Oh, boy. So did Lena Dunham wrote the script, the adaptation?

• 37:22Speaker 01

  No, it was someone Zoller.

• 37:25Pablo Torre?

  Are there multiple projects?

• 37:26Speaker 01

  Oh, so I, so this was like the Ashton Kutcher Steve Jobs movie and not the Michael Fassbender one.

• 37:35Pablo Torre?

  I think this is the same one.

• 37:38Speaker 01

  I mean, maybe.

• 37:40Pablo Torre?

  Okay, so there's a Netflix series, is it an Apple 824 movie?

• 37:43Speaker 01

  It's for a feature, yeah.

• 37:44Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, the, it says Lena Dunham as of, uh.

• 37:48Speaker 01

  Oh, that's why I didn't get it.

• 37:53Speaker 01

  I love you and I'd love you to come on the show and we were very immature boys on Come Town and we shouldn't have said after Hillary Clinton lost the election in 2016 that we're looking forward to your public execution. Cut that, please.

• 38:09Pablo Torre?

  You're gonna leave that in?

• 38:10Speaker 01

  No, cut that, please. I love girls. Have you seen that show?

• 38:14Pablo Torre?

  The show Girls?

• 38:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:16Pablo Torre?

  I watched, uh, all of it.

• 38:17Speaker 01

  She's a genius.

• 38:18Pablo Torre?

  It's, I, I, I recall it being really [bleep] good.

• 38:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, uh, every choice she makes as a storyteller is the right one. Like, like, she's, she's such a good writer. It's crazy.

• 38:33Pablo Torre?

  Yes, yes. Also, you wanted her executed.

• 38:36Speaker 01

  It was just funny because she made that video for Hillary.

• 38:41Speaker 09

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• 38:53Speaker 01

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• 39:50Pablo Torre?

  I did enjoy watching you do stand-up, though.

• 39:53Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 39:53Pablo Torre?

  Speaking of like being out in the world and like...

• 39:55Speaker 01

  You were at that show.

• 39:56Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, a friend, Joe Mandy, friend of Palatouria Finds Out, Joe Mandy's show.

• 39:59Speaker 01

  Yeah. What'd you think? Pretty much the best stand-up in America?

• 40:03Pablo Torre?

  Legitimately, it was really good, man.

• 40:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, and if you want to see me live, I'm gonna be at, uh... When's this coming out?

• 40:10Pablo Torre?

  This is coming out on, uh... At this rate, not.

• 40:13Speaker 01

  Never.

• 40:14Pablo Torre?

  Primarily not.

• 40:15Speaker 01

  We have nothing.

• 40:16Pablo Torre?

  So far, so far.

• 40:17Speaker 01

  I'll be in Philly this month. I'll be in Portland next month. And I'll be in LA in May for the Netflix is a Joke Fest.

• 40:26Pablo Torre?

  Wow.

• 40:26Speaker 01

  All right, so what do we got? Let's, let's, let's really break, uh, break, break, uh, something huge.

• 40:32Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. LeBron's retiring.

• 40:36Speaker 01

  Shut up.

• 40:39Speaker 01

  Who told you?

• 40:42Pablo Torre?

  I just hear things. I just hear things.

• 40:44Speaker 01

  I'm gonna get in trouble. You can't, you can't put that... No, he's not retiring. I asked Rich.

• 40:50Pablo Torre?

  Yeah? Did you really?

• 40:51Speaker 01

  Was this the whole setup right now?

• 40:53Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, it was.

• 40:54Speaker 01

  I can't, dude. You're gonna get me in huge trouble.

• 40:57Pablo Torre?

  You didn't ask Rich that, did you?

• 40:59Speaker 01

  No, I didn't ask him.

• 41:00Pablo Torre?

  Okay.

• 41:01Speaker 01

  I said, "When you, when's this [bleep] gonna get out?"

• 41:03Pablo Torre?

  But by the way, that has been, since we talked... And I said to you, it kinda feels like LeBron's retiring, based on information. There's been lots of signals, like they've basically been.

• 41:16Speaker 01

  Well, they said divorcing divorcing the Lakers. That's what I heard. All I've heard is that he's splitting up with the Lakers at the end of the year.

• 41:25Pablo Torre?

  That seems likely, yeah.

• 41:27Speaker 01

  Okay, what do we got? We got nothing today.

• 41:29Pablo Torre?

  That's not true. We had a clavicular.

• 41:33Speaker 01

  SBF.

• 41:34Pablo Torre?

  SBF, Rich Paul golf swing.

• 41:37Speaker 01

  That was cool.

• 41:38Pablo Torre?

  That was good.

• 41:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:39Pablo Torre?

  Your dad being proud of you.

• 41:41Speaker 01

  He is very proud of me.

• 41:42Pablo Torre?

  What was the turning point?

• 41:43Speaker 01

  Uh.

• 41:44Pablo Torre?

  Friendship with me?

• 41:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, no, no, I think I just make something that's he could watch now. I used to peddle in uh gross humor that uh.

• 41:54Pablo Torre?

  Did your dad ever listen to Come Town?

• 41:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, I would get grounded every time. I'd be like, I don't even live at home. I would adhere to the grounding, of course. I wouldn't leave my room. I couldn't couldn't see my friends that weekend, but you know, was, you know, I'm 32, Dad. How am I grounded?

• 42:13Pablo Torre?

  What did your dad think of how the Richie Torres interview came out?

• 42:16Speaker 01

  Uh, his heart monitor went off a couple times.

• 42:22Speaker 08

  I didn't have an agenda. I I really didn't. It's your number one topic. It's not my number one topic. It's just not. It is your. It's not my number one topic. It's it's. What I saw. Well, look, what I saw. I was not elected on it. You don't get elected in the South Bronx. I'm not trying to make you feel bad or like. No, but you, I just don't think you know what you're talking about.

• 42:42Speaker 01

  We called each other Hitler. That's just dinner. That's our family. Okay, that's fine. Uh, but about a week later, he had consumed all of the recap content. And he saw that the Barry Weiss people were calling me a capo. And he was like, these people are hypocrites, you know, to co-opt the language of the Shoah. This is exactly what they accuse the other side of doing. And it was kind of like, don't f*** with my boy. And, you know, it was a very beautiful kind of moment.

• 43:12Pablo Torre?

  That is, that is legitimately heartwarming.

• 43:14Speaker 01

  My pop, no, my pop is very, very proud of the show. Yeah, and you.

• 43:18Pablo Torre?

  Well.

• 43:19Speaker 01

  We can call him if you want.

• 43:20Pablo Torre?

  I would love that.

• 43:21Speaker 01

  Would you?

• 43:22Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, please?

• 43:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay.

• 43:24Pablo Torre?

  We called Kornheiser the last time.

• 43:25Speaker 01

  No, I mean, he'll do a better job on the show today than me.

• 43:28Pablo Torre?

  He didn't, Kornheiser didn't pick up, but.

• 43:32Speaker 01

  We'll call Dad. I do it a lot.

• 43:33Pablo Torre?

  Your dad's name is Max?

• 43:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, Max.

• 43:35Pablo Torre?

  Okay.

• 43:37Speaker 01

  He can tell you all about sports if you want. Seriously, he was at the Gibson game in 88.

• 43:52Pablo Torre?

  He was at the Dodgers.

• 43:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:54Pablo Torre?

  That's great.

• 43:55Speaker 01

  He was there. I was a baby.

• 44:02Speaker 01

  Well, ask him what he thinks. I don't know. Can you hear?

• 44:04Pablo Torre?

  Yeah.

• 44:06Speaker 01

  Hi, Pa. I'm on with Pablo Torre right now and he just wanted to say hi because I told him that you liked his his episode about the Clippers.

• 44:16Speaker 11

  I enjoy all his shows, actually.

• 44:19Speaker 01

  You watch all of them?

• 44:21Speaker 11

  Well, I don't know. I can't, I can't kind of guarantee that, but I've watched a few of them, quite a few of them.

• 44:28Speaker 01

  Really?

• 44:29Pablo Torre?

  Thank you, Max. There's a lot of content we're putting out, a lot of episodes. I really love that you pay attention to what we do.

• 44:36Speaker 11

  No, I, I, I thank you. I enjoy your playful

• 44:43Speaker 11

  attitude towards it and the guessing games and the the secret documents and the closed files and and the magnifying glasses

• 44:56Speaker 11

  that you give them, you know, and you have a whole bunch of Sherlock's on your show.

• 45:00Pablo Torre?

  Yes.

• 45:01Speaker 01

  Sherlock's.

• 45:02Pablo Torre?

  Sherlock's.

• 45:03Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 45:04Pablo Torre?

  There's something in there.

• 45:05Speaker 01

  We've been like trying to find a nickname for his like stans, his fanbase. Pablo.

• 45:12Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, we gotta come up with like a Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had Scoop Troop, but we're trying to improve that. And Sherlock's is a good, is a good one.

• 45:21Speaker 01

  Scoop Troop? Where are you, the supermarket?

• 45:24Speaker 11

  I'm in the supermarket. I'm checking out.

• 45:27Speaker 01

  What do you buy?

• 45:36Speaker 11

  I'm buying, I, I, I, I bankrupted the family at Costco this morning.

• 45:42Speaker 01

  What'd you get?

• 45:43Pablo Torre?

  Speaking of clubs.

• 45:45Speaker 11

  I was a little, I was a little compulsive.

• 45:48Speaker 01

  Oh, I haven't sent the computer yet.

• 45:51Speaker 11

  Uh, I, I've noticed that, Adam.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I'm sending it to, I'll send it today. I'll get my guy to send it.

• 45:58Speaker 11

  Okay, good. Pablo, good work, my friend. Terrific.

• 46:05Speaker 01

  Or by what?

• 46:10Speaker 11

  There's, there's a lot, there's a lot to, to write about in the, in, in, in the sporting world. I mean, there's a lot of controversies.

• 46:17Pablo Torre?

  Yes, there is, Max.

• 46:18Speaker 01

  Do you think LeBron is gonna retire?

• 46:22Speaker 11

  LeBron is going to, if he leaves, like, as a, I think he'll go and, I, I think he's gonna do something spectacular. There's, there's a casino in Vegas that has, I don't think it's ever gonna get built, but had planned into a, a, a, a rather spectacular basketball arena. Uh, and what I understood was that he had very much an interest in that, uh, that project and that he would want to finance either a, a new league or a new team for that, for Vegas.

• 46:59Speaker 11

  So I don't know if that's just speculation because I live here and everybody thinks that Vegas is the hottest thing for sliced cheese. I don't know, but, um, that's what I heard.

• 47:13Pablo Torre?

  Wait, Max, Max, Max, did you, did you know, did you know that your son had a meeting with Rich Paul? Did he tell you about this?

• 47:20Speaker 11

  I, I heard that. Uh, I'm not quite sure what came of it, other than.

• 47:25Speaker 01

  Nothing, pretty much nothing.

• 47:27Pablo Torre?

  Mostly this podcast that he's doing with me.

• 47:30Speaker 11

  You know, I, I, I, my, my feeling, my feeling is that, um,

• 47:37Speaker 11

  you stay clear of that whole, I, I, you can report on it because it's dramatic and it's certainly newsworthy, but, uh.

• 47:47Speaker 01

  So I shouldn't, I shouldn't mention that I, I had that meeting on a podcast.

• 47:52Speaker 11

  Well, you, yes, you can if you want to.

• 47:55Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 47:56Speaker 11

  In the appropriate context.

• 47:58Speaker 01

  Well, I think, I think it was appropriate.

• 48:01Pablo Torre?

  I think it was totally appropriate.

• 48:05Speaker 11

  Uh, so that's, are you on his show or are you just having lunch?

• 48:08Speaker 01

  I'm on his show right now.

• 48:10Pablo Torre?

  Yeah, he said, he said that Rich Paul told him that college basketball sucks.

• 48:14Speaker 11

  Am I live or am I, are you?

• 48:16Pablo Torre?

  You're, you're live to tape, I guess?

• 48:19Speaker 01

  If you want to, if you want to, I just, I told him that, uh, that you're a big fan. And so, uh, he wanted to say hello.

• 48:28Speaker 11

  Oh, that's terrific. Well, lovely meeting you, uh, this way.

• 48:35Pablo Torre?

  Wait, Max, Max, I, I wanted to say that Adam told me something very sweet, which is that despite years of him trying to radicalize you into a member of the dirtbag left, you finally saw something about the Democratic Party that we exposed here on Pablo Torre Finds Out. And I love that we were able to do something in terms of your political evolution that your son Adam, who is once again the Jon Stewart of our generation, was not able to do.

• 49:06Speaker 11

  All right. Uh, I, I, I think there's an element of, uh, of, of fantasy.

• 49:14Speaker 01

  Oh, stop it. Oh, stop it.

• 49:19Speaker 11

  This, this, this celebrity and besmirching my family name in public, um, I, I, I will give him that.

• 49:28Speaker 01

  I'm not besmirching anything. I, I.

• 49:31Speaker 11

  I'm, come on, man. I'm, you know, and, and you want to know just how fucked up I am at the moment?

• 49:37Speaker 01

  What, what, what?

• 49:37Speaker 11

  I'm standing in front of the lookout, uh, singing a jig.

• 49:43Speaker 11

  And I can't find my cellphone.

• 49:45Speaker 01

  Oh, because it's in your hand. Oh, you gotta pay for the groceries. That's funny. Oh, that's funny, Pop. Oh, that's really good. That's funny. All right, okay.

• 49:55Speaker 11

  It's terrifying for me.

• 49:57Speaker 01

  Oh, you had a senior moment, Dad.

• 50:00Speaker 11

  I had, I definitely had a senior.

• 50:02Speaker 01

  All right, I love you. What'd you, what'd you think of that Super Bowl? Boring, no?

• 50:06Speaker 11

  I thought it was boring. I have no idea.

• 50:09Speaker 01

  I did the blue square, Dad, to stop antisemitism.

• 50:13Speaker 11

  I saw that. And by the way, it was politically brilliant because the, the, the Zionists will think, oh, he's finally come home.

• 50:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, that's what I wanted them to think.

• 50:23Speaker 11

  Your guys will think that, you know, ah, one for the team, you know?

• 50:27Speaker 01

  I don't, what, what, what team? The Nazis? Okay, I love you, Dad.

• 50:31Speaker 11

  Take care.

• 50:32Pablo Torre?

  Max, thanks for, thanks for joining Nark Nation.

• 50:36Speaker 01

  Nark Nation?

• 50:38Pablo Torre?

  We're still, we're still working.

• 50:41Speaker 01

  All right, bye, Pop.

• 50:42Speaker 11

  Bye-bye.

• 50:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. The, uh, that was all right. Did he save the episode?

• 50:49Pablo Torre?

  I think he saved it.

• 50:50Speaker 01

  Thank God, dude.

• 51:02Pablo Torre?

  This has been Pablo Torre Finds Out, a Meadowlark Media production.

• 51:08Pablo Torre?

  And I'll talk to you next time.

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