Mick Mulroy Talks BDA on Iran, War Powers Act, & Gaza Negotiations | EYES ON GEOPOLITICS

This episode we talk about the recent US strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities and the complex battle damage assessment. We dissect the ongoing debate around the War Powers Act and presidential authority in military actions, along with a passionate discussion on the urgent humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Plus, we examine the new ceasefire in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and Qatar's growing role in international mediation. You'll also hear an incredibly inspiring story from our "End Child Soldiering" initiative. Stay informed on global affairs and learn how you can support our mission. Support the show on Patreon:⬇️ https://www.patreon.com/TheTeamHouse New merch, patches, and stickers! ⬇️ https://theteamhouse-shop.fourthwall.com Find Mick Mulroy here: Fogbow ⬇️ https://fogbow.com/ Lobo Institute ⬇️ https://www.loboinstitute.org/ Twitter ⬇️ https://x.com/mickmulroy?s=21&t=-Ze3F_Ix2vlJ18KFvORTCA LinkedIn ⬇️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-patrick-mulroy-31198b52/ Bluesky ⬇️ https://bsky.app/profile/mickmulroy.bsky.social Mick’s publications ⬇️ https://www.loboinstitute.org/publications/publications-of-michael-mick-patrick-mulroy/ Find Andy Milburn here: Twitter ⬇️ https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Fandymilburn8 LinkedIn ⬇️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewmilburn2023 Substack ⬇️ https://amilburn.substack.com/ Andy’s book ⬇️ https://www.amazon.com/When-Tempest-Gathers-Mogadishu-Operations Bluesky ⬇️ https://bsky.app/profile/andy-milburn.bsky.social Find Jason Lyons here: LinkedIn ⬇️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-lyons-666873316?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app Bluesky ⬇️ https://bsky.app/profile/bgsilverback73.bsky.social Chapters: 00:00 Introduction, Technical Issues & Show Overview 02:12 Iranian Nuclear Program and US Strike Analysis 25:28 The War Powers Act and Presidential Military Authority 32:15 The Gaza Conflict and Humanitarian Aid Crisis 41:33 DRC Ceasefire, Regional Stability, and Qatar's Role 46:20 "End Child Soldiering" Initiative and Show Conclusion Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss.

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  You know, lot going on per usual. Not as many bombs dropping and blowing up, except in Ukraine, really. You need to like, point that out. They've been under like a pretty, pretty significant and a steady bombardment from Russia.

• 3:43Speaker 04

  First things first, Mick. Going back to the battle, that damage assessment for the Iranian nuclear facilities we hit last week.

• 3:53Speaker 04

  Bit of like, people on both sides are some people are saying it was amazing and we knocked them out completely for years or indefinitely. And some people are saying it's a few, only a few months. Uh, where are you at with that? Like, what are you tracking?

• 4:09Speaker 05

  So the first thing I'd say is PDA is Battle Damage Assessment. Like you said, it it forms over time. So you know, there's an old adage, first reports are usually wrong, which is often the case because it's based on preliminary information that changes over time. Sometimes the best information is gained further down the road when people get complacent and start talking about it on, you know, communications devices. Sometimes they're smart enough to know we're listening right up front. So they're, they say disinformation, thinking that we listen to it. Obviously, in this case, if you're looking at overhead imagery, you see, you know, little holes, right?

• 4:51Speaker 05

  It's kind of looking at somebody who's been shot, which is, you know, obviously not something you want to do. But the hole going in is kind of small inside and in the back, totally different story, right? So they need to be able to get more information on what happened subsurface. I mean, these munitions are designed to detonate 200 feet below the surface. So you're not going to see a whole lot at the top. But I would say in general, from my knowledge of the modeling for this, and this was done over 12 years, and there, there is two people that's were in the Defense Threat Reduction Agency that I think General Kane referenced that really deserve a lot of credit, you

• 5:34Speaker 05

  know, for this operation, which was militarily very successful. And I think we should be impressed with our forces for planning and executing it. But the, the concern now, of course, is the infrastructure is largely significantly degraded, right? I mean, just the amount of munitions we put down there. The centrifuges, I don't know the exact numbers, but I heard some people that, that know, I think, pretty recently, saying that Natanz had like 17,000 centrifuges and.

• 6:12Speaker 05

  Fordow had about 3,000, 4,000, and they're very difficult to move, apparently. And so they're likely were destroyed as well. Doesn't mean that we destroyed all their centrifuges. And then it comes down to this highly enriched uranium, right? That's, that's what everybody's concerned about. The, there's a lot of talk about these vehicles that were there before the strikes. Um, I think the White House said they were likely there to reinforce the shafts. You know, the air shafts that they're shooting right down. I mean, you know, and if, if you remember the briefing, the Pentagon, five GBU 57s went down the same hole, which is Yeah.

• 6:53Speaker 05

  Just super impressive. Um, I, I thought it went before I went to the Pentagon, I was impressed by looking at CIA operations, which are impressive, uh, but when you see a full DOD operation, you're like, oh, I'm glad, I'm glad they're on our side, right? Um, but the question then is, and this isn't a question about anything wrong with the military operation. It's whether all the enriched uranium was there. We don't know. I think there's reporting that the intel, that the Israeli intelligence believes it was there. There's also reporting that a lot of it was held at Istifan, uh, which I'm sure we did surface strikes on, but I don't think we did uh, many or any, uh, subsurface because it's really deep.

• 7:35Speaker 05

  So what I would say is we probably set back the nuclear program as existed before our strike back, I think years. Um, there's no really way to tell because every time they just start building, we could, Israel could strike them again. So you could say indefinitely, right? So, I mean, it's going to take a lot to rebuild it. The question is, do they have this highly enriched uranium? Can they move it to a secret facility? And can they then get it to either a crude nuclear weapon? But even a crude nuclear weapon could be like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, right? A gravity bomb, uh, which essentially what that was. Um, so I, I view this, uh,

• 8:18Speaker 05

  as two parts. One, we had an opportunity that only we could fulfill, which was what we did. Degraded the nuclear capabilities and we did, and hats off to the, uh, men and women of the, uh, US Air Force particularly, uh, and Navy who did a lot of the, uh,

• 8:36Speaker 05

  The Trident missile strikes, or the Tomahawk missile strikes, I should say.

• 8:41Speaker 05

  But we also need to have a laser focus from US intelligence community on where this stuff is. And what are they doing with it? Because they told us 100 times before their strike that if we did it, they're gonna get a nuclear weapon.

• 8:53Speaker 04

  Right.

• 8:54Speaker 05

  So when your enemy says something like that, you ought to take them for their word. And we should be laser focused. And if we have to, we re-strike. But preferably this instead ends up going to a negotiated settlement. At one point, when I was researching this, when I was overseas for tucking on ABC. A lot of people didn't know, I didn't know. We actually gave Iran a nuclear reactor back in the 60s, right? When we were friends with them, the Shah.

• 9:26Speaker 05

  And at the time, we gave them a lot of highly enriched uranium. We just, I guess, were very gullible back then, thinking that people would want it for a nuclear weapons program. But then in 1979, you had the revolution. And then, of course, we cut all support for them. But it's a cautionary tale that, you know, friends don't always say friends and enemies don't always say enemies. And we need to, we need to be careful about the type of what could potentially lethal technology transfers that we do as a country.

• 10:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, that is an interesting point that no one really talks about, right? I'm assuming this, this, we set them up with a nuclear reactor as like first commercially used, right, for power?

• 10:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, for power, exactly. Yeah, it was, it was like Atoms for Peace or some initiative.

• 10:17Speaker 05

  Again, it's, it's a different time, hindsight's 2020. We were friends with Iran, the Shah, and we were trying to spread our influence. Yeah, yeah.

• 10:30Speaker 05

  You know, it's more of a cautionary tale than than, you know, beating herself up with something that happened a long time ago and it was a different scenario. But more importantly today is we're gonna have to stay on this, right? So and and last point I'd make on this is, look, after action reports, that's our reviews are done by every military unit and the best military units are very critical of themselves, period. Right? So I would say, I think this was exceptional. So there's there's no real criticism. But the idea that people would look at and see how the effectiveness of the military operation or what could have been done better. I mean, that's, that's what makes the US military, the US military, right? Sure. It's, it's not unpatriotic to, to do, to do that.

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• 13:54Speaker 04

  I could talk about that with my therapist or something. We were talking about the BDA and how it became a little bit like, a little politically divided and stuff. The Trump administration was talking about, kind of trying to paint it like, oh, the people that think that the strikes weren't successful in terms of like, the amount of time that they pulled back, they've knocked back the Iranian nuclear program, is somehow a reflection on the pilots and the crewmen and everybody who was involved in like, doing this strike that's never been done before. And I think that's a little bit of BS, because, you know, the facts will bear out what the facts will bear out in terms of the BDA and how badly the Iranians' program is set back.

• 14:39Speaker 04

  No one's taking away, you know, the precision strike that the B2, B2s and all the refuelers and all the fighter jet guys, like pilots and stuff, did and like, you know, incredible feat of like, military power that this was. I don't doubt that for a second, but at some point, we're just gonna possibly have to come to terms on like, maybe... The physics aren't there, right? It's not taking away anything from the pilots. Obviously, they're fucking badasses and like, thank God they're not Russian or Chinese, right? Thank God they're United, you, you, you know, US pilots. So, I don't know, but like you said in the beginning of the show, in terms of like the BDA, it takes time, right? Like,

• 15:21Speaker 04

  it takes time to actually get what's going on the ground. You gotta see what the Iranians are doing on the ground. Like, they had, I saw some satellite foot pics now that they had some excavators around the site in Ford Out. And hopefully, this, these strikes bring them back to the table. The nuclear negotiation table, and we can get some kind of deal that makes sense.

• 15:48Speaker 05

  I hope so too, and I think everybody should. Right now, I think the United States feels emboldened as they believe they set it back significantly. And I, I don't even know how they're estimating the time. Like, that means like the time now they start rebuilding it, that it'll take, you know, three months or three years.

• 16:05Speaker 04

  Right.

• 16:06Speaker 05

  That's taken, that's not taken into account that we can stop them from rebuilding.

• 16:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:11Speaker 05

  Right? So, the IDF and the United States Air Force still owns the sky, right? They have no air and missile defenses. They've taken it all out. There is no air force to speak of. There really wasn't to start with, but now it's completely estimated. So, if they start rebuilding these facilities, they can be struck again, and they, and they should.

• 16:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:32Speaker 05

  Let's, let's, let's point out, there's no reason to have 60% enriched uranium unless you're going toward a nuclear weapon. It only takes 2% to 3% to use it for civilian peaceful energy means, right? So, they are telling the world what they're doing. They're likely to pull out of the NPT, the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, and they're likely to discontinue, possibly to discontinue cooperation with the IAEA, which is basically standing up and saying, we are going toward a nuclear weapon now. So, the criticism. Of the strike, I think, is as much, you know, as it relates to the US president being able to

• 17:12Speaker 05

  take unilateral military action as it was the actual action. I mean, people are certainly capable of disagreeing on this, but that was the opportunity to take, I think, from the US. Israel had already started the conflict. They'd already significantly diminished the air defense capacity, which was the biggest part of the actual operation, when we planned it many moons ago.

• 17:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:37Speaker 05

  Right? So this was the time. Was it perfect? No, it's never going to be perfect. But it did, it did, I think, seriously set them back. Now we just have to stay diligent, and hopefully, they will decide that the best course of action for them, them being the Iranians, and particularly Iranian people, is to get to a second nuclear agreement, of which they get considerable sanctions relief, very beneficial to their struggling economy, and the White House has put out that we might actually come up with a multinational investment fund to help fund their nuclear energy program.

• 18:20Speaker 04

  Right.

• 18:21Speaker 05

  Right? So there's a lot of carrots out there.

• 18:23Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 18:24Speaker 05

  I think. I know most analysts, and I know a lot, as you would guess, that are very, very knowledgeable on around, say they're never gonna agree with no enrichment on their soil. I hope that's not the case, because it doesn't look like, especially now, the US is gonna accept anything less than that.

• 18:42Speaker 04

  Do you think it sets a bad precedent now, like the toothpaste is kind of out of the tube, because it's always been like a threat during the negotiations over the years that we would hit their nuclear facilities?

• 18:56Speaker 04

  Do you think it gets us past a point of no return or is it like kind of like we're showing like hey we're serious we'll bomb the shit out of you guys if you don't come to the table and I mean latest report I did see that that Iran's not playing ball with the IAEA as of yet I mean so they are at least outwardly and you know maybe for their domestic audience to are saying that yeah we're not playing ball because we said that we were going to develop more uranium get it to a point where it's you know point of no return uh obviously it seems like that's like their leverage or at least the regime's leverage not the country as a whole but you know as a regular layman person you see like we

• 19:39Speaker 04

  don't really fuck with North Korea really they have sanctions and stuff like that but the fact is they have fifty or so nukes we really don't fuck with them you know barring like different presidents act differently towards North Korea clearly but um so like what would really stop if they have if istanbul is deeper than ford out and you can't really touch isfan what's to stop them I know if I'm them I kinda would be pushing it to the limit also the other factor that like drips in here is like Israel does what Israel wants to do clearly they obviously coordinate with us but they're not listening to us and I would argue that like the

• 20:23Speaker 04

  last two years Israel has become more belligerent than ever before I'm sure there have been pockets of time like over the over the last decades but you know maybe we are getting close to a deal or something with Iran and what's to stop Israel from bombing them again because I feel like Israel has a legitimate like uh I don't even know if they have a legitimate concern to be fair because obviously Israel's like military is way better than Iran's but um saying we we just can't control Israel and frankly a ton of people in the in America have of that feeling where like we don't really control Israel Israel at least politically controls us

• 21:09Speaker 05

  Uh, well, I mean.

• 21:10Speaker 04

  That's the layman interpretation.

• 21:13Speaker 05

  That gets into a lot of the politics of it. I would be, you know, Israel's going to make the decisions based on Israel's, what they think is best for their national security. Obviously, the United States is not only our most significant partner and ally to Israel, but the one that stands with it no matter what. And we provide a substantial portion of their national defense.

• 21:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:39Speaker 05

  I've heard as high as 70%. Check me if I'm wrong about that.

• 21:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, but it's very much subsidized by the US.

• 21:47Speaker 05

  Yes. Now, is that, is that just total charity? No, Israel ends up fighting a lot of the enemies of the United States. Not because they're fighting them for us, but they, you know, they, they chant death to Israel, address to the United States, you know? The enemy, uh, well, Israel's a friend. But that, that is one of the things they do. And they've decimated Hezbollah, they decimated Hamas, they've taken considerable strikes against the Houthis. And now they have essentially shown Iran for what it is, which is a paper tiger.

• 22:21Speaker 04

  Right.

• 22:22Speaker 05

  So the amount of money we spend on Israel is also goes to our own defense, which is the same thing for Ukraine. For those could, you might want to stay consistent across your, uh, cause it's the same thing holds true. You know, um, the money that we pay to Ukraine isn't charity. They're fighting our number one adversary or most significant or more dangerous adversary. You can argue about China, uh, but that's, that's not charity either. So when it comes to Israel, uh, they're going to take, and, and I think you can make a really good point, Dee. What's to keep them from striking again if they don't like the deal? I think they probably will, and that could rupture the negotiation process.

• 23:02Speaker 04

  I mean, they smoked the lead negotiator in this last one.

• 23:05Speaker 05

  Yep, right, right before, I mean.

• 23:08Speaker 04

  The sixth round, right?

• 23:09Speaker 05

  Yeah. So I think, but I don't know what is, the US right now, my understanding is asking for no enrichment on Iranian soil. So they get enriched uranium, it's only up to the 3%, you know, margin, whatever's needed for energy. Uh, all the enriched uranium that exceeds that will be taken out of the countries, they have to turn it over. And there's a, there's a provision that the US wants to add about the amount of ballistic missiles that they can have. So it's pretty stringent on Iran.

• 23:41Speaker 04

  No way they go for that, man, come on, bro.

• 23:44Speaker 05

  Then we're gonna have to be super diligent about um, tracking their efforts to get a nuclear weapon. Cause you're absolutely right. Look at Libya, look at North Korea. You know, Libya gave up its, we talked them out of their nuclear weapons ambitions and Gaddafi, although nobody's gonna shed a tear for him, was killed in a ditch, right?

• 24:03Speaker 04

  Right.

• 24:03Speaker 05

  And we all see what happened in North Korea. So they're all, they're not stupid. They realize if they get a deliverable nuclear weapon, multiple ones, that their regime's stability increases substantially. So we're gonna have to, and that, but that's unacceptable. You can't just say that as every politician and every president of every party has said, it's unacceptable for Iran to have a nuclear weapon, then you have to be willing to do something about it, or it's all empty rhetoric. So I think this is gonna, this is gonna be, you know, are we gonna use aerial denial weapons to keep them out of these facilities? Not sure why we didn't do that already, you know, um, but I, but there's gonna have to be a major undertaking for tracking uh, and verifying the intelligence, cause this could be

• 24:47Speaker 05

  a tic for tac that goes well into the future unless Iran eventually uh, comes off of their pretty hard line.

• 24:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:55Speaker 05

  Negotiations.

• 24:55Speaker 04

  Well Frank, I mean, like, obviously the ballistic missiles are probably tied to the nuclear weapons cause you could strap a nuclear warhead on it and it'll reach Israel, right? I get it. Um, but like,

• 25:07Speaker 04

  the, I think the argument can be made that like their ballistic missile program is for their general self-defense, non-nuclear, right? Like.

• 25:17Speaker 04

  They have to at least, I know they're bad. I know they're bad guys, but like thinking like in pragmatically, they're gonna need some kind of self-defense.

• 25:25Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 25:26Speaker 04

  Forces in their, even if they make a great deal, they become new uh players in the world economy and their GDP fucking thirty X's, right? And they become like a shining bright light in Middle East. They're gonna need, they're gonna want some self-defense weapons in turn, you know?

• 25:44Speaker 05

  Yep. Yeah, I think every nation has a right to defend itself.

• 25:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:48Speaker 05

  Problem with Iran is it's the most destabilizing force of the Middle East and it's proven. It's proven that so um to the extent that you can control it, uh you want to, but you're right. You're gonna have to make concessions to allow them to have a military of self-defense. For sure, for sure.

• 26:06Speaker 04

  Correct me if I'm wrong, the first JCPOA had the deal where like there was, I mean, whatever was highly enriched got chucked out of and taken to a separate monitor of place, right? I don't know if it was in Iran or somewhere else. But correct me if I'm wrong, because you would know the particulars more than I would.

• 26:24Speaker 05

  So the the limit, although they could enrich inside Iran.

• 26:28Speaker 04

  Okay, I got you.

• 26:29Speaker 05

  It was still limited at to three point six seven, so way below nuclear weapons capacity, which is why so many people now are saying, well, we probably shouldn't have got out of the first agreement. Because you could, we could have always addressed the proxy issue.

• 26:43Speaker 04

  Right.

• 26:44Speaker 05

  We could separately, because it wasn't in the agreement. So if it's not in the agreement, doesn't mean the US can't sanction the hell out of them for sponsoring terrorist organizations or, you know, ballistic missile testing that exceeds the through, you know, the allowed upon amount. But, you know, that's water under the bridge. So it's, it's a, we can have a theoretical or academic discussion on it, but we are where we are. So I do think the US, if we could get all three of those, it would be, we'd be in a better position uh going forward and we'd be in a better position because we took this strike. Now that war powers act aside, we can talk about that next.

• 27:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 27:21Speaker 05

  You know, I think this was the the right move to make. It was the right time to make it. But we have to be fair and say it's it's not the end all be all. It's not doesn't mean you like pull trigger. So they're never going to get a nuclear weapon now. This is this is going to get them to realize that their conventional um deterrence is almost zero.

• 27:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 27:43Speaker 05

  Almost zero. It it was uh it was such an overmatch by the Israelis and obviously by the US uh that they're gonna definitely go for a nuclear weapon. So we just have to accept what they say and make sure.

• 27:56Speaker 04

  I mean, listen, they have F 14s from the 70s, right? Like they're the only, you know, we used to have them. We retired them 15 years ago. Um, and F 4s, I think, too. So like their their hardware is old as shit. Obviously, it's not going to hang with F 35s and, you know, um, more advanced top uh cruise missiles and stuff. Um, yeah. So moving to the War Powers Act, there was a bit of back and forth and a lot of hoopla politically. People were saying that the strikes were unconstitutional. Uh, other people were saying, no, it's in the president's right to do that. Um, my understanding is like the argument on one side that said it was

• 28:39Speaker 04

  unconstitutional was because it didn't pose a clear and uh and uh, what was the word? A like clear, like obvious, like threat to the United States that needed to be acted on right away.

• 28:53Speaker 05

  Right.

• 28:54Speaker 04

  Right? Because the fact is they're not exactly a week away from making a nuclear weapon. They were months or a year away from weaponizing there in Rich, getting into 90% and then weaponizing it. Where you uh where you at on that?

• 29:07Speaker 05

  So it's it is one of those.

• 29:11Speaker 05

  Debates that keeps coming up and probably should keep coming up. It's the most important thing that a government does is decide to go to war or not, right?

• 29:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:17Speaker 05

  Um, that's why it's prominent in Article One, which is Congress's right to declare war. And, uh, prominent in Article Two, which is the president's role as commander in chief. The War Powers Act was, uh, passed in nineteen seventy-three over the veto of then-President Nixon. No president has ever accepted it as constitutional. Just to be, just so everybody's on the same sheet. Um, what it says generally is it was a notification provision within the first, I think, forty-eight hours. I could be wrong, but it's, it's a certain amount of hours where the president has to notify Congress

• 29:57Speaker 05

  of his intent to enter troops into harm's way, hostilities.

• 30:03Speaker 04

  Right. He didn't do that. Trump this time.

• 30:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, there's, there's two parts here. Normally, notification prior to strike, which we did, if you remember the strikes in Syria.

• 30:16Speaker 04

  Yeah. They tell the Gang of Eight, right? That's what they call it?

• 30:19Speaker 05

  Yep. Yep. The Gang of Eight, which is the majority and minority leader in both the House and the Senate, and the key, uh, chairmans and vice chairmans of key, um, committees.

• 30:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:31Speaker 05

  Like defense, intelligence, and I imagine foreign policy.

• 30:36Speaker 05

  They usually get briefed before the strikes as a courtesy. They don't get a vote. They don't get to say, that's a bad idea. I mean, they can, but they don't actually, they're not part of a chain of command. Uh, that was only done with the Republicans this time. That's gonna be a press, a press, it could be a precedent setting, uh, which I don't think is a good thing.

• 30:57Speaker 05

  I think they probably did it because they didn't want to leak. I think, I think the Gang of Eight would say that's, they wouldn't leak, but you know, quite frankly, the first intelligence assessment, from my understanding, that was leaked, um, was one that was sent to Congress. So, uh, you, you, we gotta come up with a better way to control classified material, which means to be like, that's a whole nother episode, but. Not allowing it to be printed, having some kind of stamp and serial numbers on it so we know who actually leaked and all that kind of stuff. We could do better. You could turn it, you could turn the average tech company to come up with a better system of protecting our classified material, but that again, it's another topic.

• 31:37Speaker 05

  Uh, but then of course the notification and then in the War Powers Act, the president is allowed to maintain and keep them in combat for 60 days. Right? So this was way short of that.

• 31:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:48Speaker 05

  This didn't even violate the War Powers Act, except for the notification part. But it says within 48 hours, so it might be, it might be solid there. Um, and then after 60 days, if Congress doesn't declare war or pass an authorized use of military force, which was the entirety of the GWOT was based on AUMF for the military side, not the agency side.

• 32:11Speaker 05

  Then he has 30 days to withdraw those forces. That's under the War Powers Act. The Supreme Court has never decided it. They've never shown an inclination to step in and decide it. So it seems to be one of those things that would just won't be resolved.

• 32:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:23Speaker 05

  Presidents will do what they want and Congress will complain that it violates the War Powers Act. And to me, it seems like the Supreme Court, if they can't decide that, I don't know why you have a Supreme Court. It's the most important thing we do.

• 32:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. It's interesting too, how you said like, uh, no, no president since the War Powers, you know, has, yeah, obviously they don't want to give up their fucking executive power, whoever it is, right? You could be a fucking peace, peace Nick and also be like a crazy Hulk. You're not going to want to give up your power to do it.

• 32:57Speaker 04

  Is that why we stopped it, uh, in Yemen versus the Houthis in like 55 or 51, 52 or so days?

• 33:05Speaker 05

  Um, there could be an, well, I don't know. I don't remember that being War Powers Act. Uh, Congress could obviously defund something that continues going. Uh, that's the other thing. They have the power of the purse, also constitutional. They can say, uh, we're not funding this, um, operation anymore. And unless, you know, they try to pull it out of their, uh, budget for the D O D, which usually doesn't have, you know, this kind of money sitting around.

• 33:29Speaker 04

  Right. Just like.

• 33:31Speaker 05

  Major operation.

• 33:31Speaker 04

  Yeah. Tens of billions of dollars discretionary, just ready to go. Yeah.

• 33:35Speaker 05

  Yeah. So there's still ways Congress can exert its authority, which is I'm not funding the war in Afghanistan, for example, anymore.

• 33:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 33:43Speaker 05

  Uh, but that was A U M F authorized use of military force, which from September 11th, 2001, when, and then when they passed the A O M F, we're still using that to keep forces in Syria today. Today, right? Um, it's, it's still the A U M F that was passed after nine 11 is why we have the ability to, uh, or the legal authority to keep forces in Syria today. Yes. Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda splattered in a, uh, many groups. One of them was ISIS. ISIS spread to, uh, Iraq and Syria. Or they spread across Iraq and Syria. We have an enduring defeat of ISIS mission in Syria. Therefore, it's A U M F. That's the, that's the logic.

• 34:25Speaker 04

  Yeah. I mean, listen, I could see that logic. My, my personal pain is I think we should get out of the Middle East outside of like, a strong soft and the agency present to beat the tits off of ISIS. That's like, you know what I mean?

• 34:41Speaker 05

  That's mostly what it is. It's mostly. There's support elements out there.

• 34:46Speaker 04

  Um, sure.

• 34:47Speaker 05

  Even with the National Guard, God bless them. National Guards everywhere, by the way. Uh, not just, uh, looking after hurricanes, which is significant enough, but you go to any place in the world and there'll be National Guard guys.

• 34:59Speaker 04

  Or downtown L A.

• 35:01Speaker 05

  Or downtown L A.

• 35:02Speaker 04

  Sorry, sorry.

• 35:03Speaker 05

  Another story, that's another story, right? They're everywhere. So, uh, they, I think they do get the credit, but it's always good to point out just how significant they are to U S, domestic and national and international security.

• 35:16Speaker 04

  Yeah. Uh, moving on to, uh, you know, it seems like kind of people forgot about what's going on in Gaza, uh, with the Israel Hamas conflict there.

• 35:28Speaker 04

  Where do you think we're at with the, uh, I mean, whatever, I'm gonna take a little bit of heat for the, I'm not gonna take heat for this, but I'm gonna be a little bit like, I'm gonna talk my shit a little. What's going on the humanitarian aid side is fucking ridiculous. I mean, the last two weeks, you've seen multiple instances of Palestinians getting shot to shit by the IDF. And Harretts made, uh, printed something out a few days back where it's like, that was like their order was to shoot people going to get fucking aid. Uh, it's fucking disgusting. The aid's not good enough. Uh, it hasn't been good enough since the G H F started, gonna be honest. Um,

• 36:10Speaker 04

  and I get it. You wanna smoke Hamas, keep smoking Hamas. I don't, fine. The fact that, like you've mentioned many, many, many times, there's upwards of seventy thousand kids that are fucking starving is a joke. And the fact, and IDF shooting up, it's been like every day, people are dying, like citizens are dying at aid stations.

• 36:32Speaker 04

  At what point are we like, bro, we invaded two countries, we didn't do, we fucked up for sure, but we didn't do this. Like, we would never do this. We would be in fucking jail if we did this.

• 36:45Speaker 05

  So, I mean,

• 36:46Speaker 04

  Sorry, I'm going a little hard, Mick. I didn't know, you don't wanna, you know?

• 36:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, I get it. Um, it's full disclosure, just, as, as a lot of listeners know, I'm involved in humanitarian aid delivery all around the world. We are not involved in Gaza right now, or, uh, have anything to do with the Gaza humanitarian foundation. Uh, but we have talked to the U N, uh, a former U N, very senior humanitarian officials on this. And we already knew this from our time when we were involved there through the maritime corner. It really would take like four hundred aid delivery, uh, positions to adequately get food to two point two million people. And there's like four. Uh, that's just not acceptable. I mean, it's just basic math. Um,

• 37:33Speaker 05

  that needs to change. Uh, as much as Israel has done good, which I would say defeating or just annihilating Hezbollah, taking out everything we just talked about for the first part of the podcast. Um, this isn't acceptable. This shouldn't be.

• 37:49Speaker 05

  Done. The age should not not be restricted to innocent civilians, period. And I think the Israelis would say they're not.

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• 39:27Speaker 05

  Think the world can make their own decision. There's a lot of free and open press that's available on that.

• 39:34Speaker 05

  But either way, this needs to change. There needs to be humanitarian assistance brought in, distributed in an orderly manner, so it's not. You know, the strongest take it and then try to sell it to the weakest.

• 39:47Speaker 04

  Right.

• 39:47Speaker 05

  Um, which is why these humanitarian organizations have very specific, uh, specific rules and procedures and principles that they go by. That doesn't favor, uh, that that does make sure that the weak get food as well.

• 40:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:04Speaker 05

  For us, distribution and part of distributing in a manner that's consistent with that is doing it all over the place, including where people are, instead of making them, uh, you know, walk miles to get food to walk back, which obviously defeats the point. Um, so there's a lot going on here. I hope it ends in a ceasefire negotiation like President Trump is talking about. Uh, I think he's does want to see a ceasefire, you know? And I think, uh, he's going to put pressure on Prime Minister Netanyahu to do that. Whether it's enough pressure because he's concerned that he will, his government will collapse because some of the more, um, far right, like Smoltrits and Ben Gavir.

• 40:48Speaker 05

  Right? Um, I don't know, but this needs for the good of the hostages, who obviously should never have been there in the first place. Uh, twenty eight will come out under the US proposal, i- if if it's agreed to. And that over a thousand Palestinians will be released from prison. And humanitarian aid will go up in a large numbers. I would hope that it's distributed by NGOs in, uh, in the US. Um, which is has all the stuff ready to go, right? Just city warehouses. Uh, and then we can get to a place where, um, it's not a threat to Israel. So Israel's in need of long-term occupation. That's going to require Hamas to leave. I, I would hope part of the agreement is the leadership on down to the middle level,

• 41:33Speaker 05

  uh, leave Gaza. Uh, they can go to Iran, whatever. Um, they can take them in and then, you know, intelligence services have long memories, just put it that way. But anything to get the, the crisis.

• 41:48Speaker 05

  Over to answer the mail for Israel's security, which is legitimate and to get somebody working for the Palestinian people in a leadership position, not just for their own, you know, demonic terrorist agenda. Because we can see where that led the Palestinian people in Gaza. That needs to happen. Is there a proposal on the table? Yes. Is there going to be a lot of pressure put on Hamas? I hope so. Let's see what happens. If Hamas can agrees to it, hopefully the president can put enough pressure on the Israelis that they'll agree to it as well.

• 42:28Speaker 04

  I wish I was as optimistic as you are, Mick.

• 42:32Speaker 05

  I don't know that I'm optimistic. I think there's a lot of pressure getting put on Netanyahu right now by Israelis. I mean, people tend to think there's some kind of monolith over there, like they agree with everything. Prime Minister Netanyahu, that's not my experience. I spent a lot of time over there and I know a lot of IDF people, as you would guess. There's a lot that have, it's a democracy, right? They have opposing views of the current prime minister inside, even inside the IDF.

• 43:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, they fucking hate him. I'll say it. I mean, I've spoken to a couple Israelis who live here, who are some former IDF folks. They fucking, I mean, at least these guys anecdotal, right? They do not like Netanyahu whatsoever. And they, you know, the first thing they tell me is about the hostages and stuff like that, and about how they need to smoke. But the same people that hate Bibi Netanyahu also talk about, and this is anecdotal, smoking, and like this is like conversations that we're not talking publicly, is like totally wiping out Gaza. And again, anecdotal, right? There are poll numbers out there, you could look at them and see, like, gauge more of the atmospherics of the entire country, but.

• 43:46Speaker 04

  I think it just needs to stop and stop as soon as possible, or if it doesn't stop, at least let the fucking aid go in. And if we need 10,000 American contractors to sit there and make sure it fucking works, fucking do it. Because 70,000 kids starving is a fucking joke. And not even, it's not, that's not even a good enough way to say it. It's fucking just, it's horrible. It's like the worst thing in the world. We can all admit that starving kids is bad, right?

• 44:11Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 44:11Speaker 04

  Thank you. Okay. I know you think so.

• 44:14Speaker 05

  And, and there's plenty of NGOs and um international organizations that can go in and distribute.

• 44:21Speaker 04

  Right.

• 44:22Speaker 05

  You know, um, not, that's anything wrong with American contractors, but it's.

• 44:25Speaker 04

  Well, I need to secure it. That's what I mean.

• 44:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, the capacity to do the distribution is there. It just needs to be done in a way where so much is coming in. That people, it will de-escalate, right? If you see. It should be coming in ground corridor, uh, you know, five, 500 trucks a day was, was coming in humanitarian aid before the conflict. So, uh, they need to get that way up.

• 44:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:50Speaker 05

  And unfortunately, sometimes Hamas is gonna take some of this, but you know, if you have to, if you have to accept that to feed a child who's, who's in IPC stage five. Uh, which is the end. Um, you know, if you're asking me, I'm saying it's worth the trade.

• 45:06Speaker 04

  Right. So flood it. So in turn, so it doesn't become a black market where like they grab the food and they can charge out, you know, tons of money for it. Right? Yeah.

• 45:16Speaker 05

  Agreed. Either said than done, but this is gonna be, needs to be done because we're gonna start. We're gonna see mass starvation. It's because even the food that's getting in, if it's just being hoarded. That means the weakest, the sick, the elderly, the children, the people that don't live near where these. Food stations are, are going to really get hit hard to a point where I'm not sure how they would. Continue if they can't get food. I mean, it's just basic, just basic knowledge. So. Um, but the easiest way to get there, of course, would be a ceasefire that both sides can agree to.

• 45:50Speaker 04

  Yeah. We'll see. Hopefully it happens. A little bit of some extra stuff. I mean, I know you're, I would say you're as close to an Africa expert as is out there, right? I mean, you've spent some time there.

• 46:05Speaker 05

  I've lived in Africa, particularly East Africa, for many, many years.

• 46:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:09Speaker 05

  I have multiple programs, you know, humanitarian enabling programs, particularly in, we did Sudan, South Sudan, and we have a lot of requests. A lot of big cut foreign, foreign assistance, particularly on the humanitarian side. So we're getting a lot of requests. But yes, so I've, I've spent a lot of time. Africa expert, I mean, I, I don't know. That's for other people.

• 46:36Speaker 04

  Well, you're the Africa expert in this Zoom call right now.

• 46:39Speaker 05

  All right. Yeah, I'll, I'll take that.

• 46:41Speaker 04

  You're the closest thing to that and between us. So the DRC ceasefire, what are you tracking with that?

• 46:49Speaker 05

  So if it holds, certainly a good thing. This has been an area, if you remember back to the Rwandan genocide in 1994, famous book and movie called Hotel Rwanda. We do a lot on ending the use of children as soldiers. So if you remember that, the UN General Delair, Romeo Delair, Canadian, he started a group that deals with ending the use of children as soldiers. They came from that, right? So and we, we support them. But we also had the Congo War, two of them. My dates might be a little off, but in the 90s and then mid 90s, late 90s. And then we've had this conflict where

• 47:33Speaker 05

  March 23 movement, also known as just M23, is supported by Rwanda. And they're an insurgent group in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Democratic couple of the Congo's government is supported by Uganda and some other African countries, F twenty-three Rwanda, they have made significant gains and twenty-three that is they've taken cities like Goma, there's a lot of rare earth minerals and you know, highly thought after minerals like gold that is there. So there's also that issue which brings in external actors, which sometimes if not all the time extends the conflict.

• 48:15Speaker 05

  And of course, when this happens, you have huge humanitarian issues. So that's why we're, we look at it so closely. This would be a great thing, you know, that the White House announced on Friday, if it holds, there's a lot that people who don't believe it, that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. If it, if it stays, that would mean that the Rwanda withdraws support from M twenty-three and potentially they, and I think as part of the agreement, they get reintegrated. So they're not as one group, which is obviously causing the civil war, but the, the ones that are redeemable, if you will, get, you know, parsed out into

• 48:55Speaker 05

  the military, the different units. And again, Rwanda stopped supporting them. And, and for the US, what's in it, I think there is priority over US investments in these rare earth minerals and, and such. So obviously a big issue with this second Trump administration is access to that. And DRC has that. And it, you know, from a business perspective, you're not going to be exploited if you're in the middle of a raging civil war. So it's benefits everybody, including hopefully this is a benefit to the people of DRC, not just wealthy foreign countries. But I think if that's the case, it's a win-win all the way

• 49:35Speaker 05

  around. So we should all be hoping that the Trump and I think Qatar orchestrated ceasefire in DRC holds.

• 49:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, I hope so. I mean, Qatar really become is a spot that like they are in the middle of fucking everything huh? Like in terms of like negotiations and stuff like that. Why is that?

• 49:58Speaker 05

  I think they have the ability to talk to a lot of these groups. They they view themselves as part of their foreign policy is their ability to settle these. They get a lot of grief for that. But it's really important that we have people that can talk to Iran, right? Or can negotiate with Hamas.

• 50:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:15Speaker 05

  Uh, if if we don't have that, it's gonna make these uh, these negotiations more difficult and the chances of agreement less likely. So, I mean, they can defend themselves, but you know, they should get credit when they are, just like the United States, just like Trump administration, when they assist in getting to a ceasefire anywhere.

• 50:36Speaker 04

  Right.

• 50:37Speaker 05

  So this is a good thing. Let's see if it holds. It's all hope it holds. And then uh, and and the longer it does, the more likely it will.

• 50:46Speaker 04

  Mick, we covered a lot today. You got me red hot. The technical issues got me more red hot than and I wasn't you. It wasn't you. It's never you, but it was just the Zoom not working. Um, I want people to go and check out uh, and child soldiering dot org.

• 51:03Speaker 05

  Yes, if you hit and child soldiering, it's all it's it's a page. It's also associated with Lobo Institute. Uh, Lobos, our company, uh, and child soldiering is the five oh one C three.

• 51:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:14Speaker 05

  Does that, yeah.

• 51:16Speaker 04

  Great book as well by Mark Sullivan.

• 51:18Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 51:19Speaker 04

  Uh, all the glimmering stars. Incredible story. Um. It's kind of wild. It's a our story that should be made into a fucking movie and should be at the Oscars. Gonna be completely honest with you, because it's like a move up, you you know, I'm a cynical fucker, but when I hear things like this, it's two child soldiers that ended up meeting, got married, got out of it, and were able to continue their life, have children, be great people, and not.

• 51:49Speaker 04

  You know, obviously traumatized through like what they've gone through, but it's an incredible human interest story where like we don't have enough of that where like people have persevered in like impossible scenario scenarios. So.

• 52:03Speaker 05

  So true. And now, when I first started filming, his name's Anthony Opoca, his wife's name Florence Opoca. Um, it was mostly for academic purposes, like I'm a regular warfare, you know, practitioner at the time. Uh, but then I realized the human story like you just laid out to you and it's incredible. It's literally, um, if you think your life is hard and you think about giving up, if you watch this, you will not. Right? I think you will change your perspective. It's, it's, it's very inspiring. It is not how most stories end for child soldiers. They usually.

• 52:38Speaker 04

  I believe it.

• 52:39Speaker 05

  Right? So it's important to point that out, but this is a very true story that, um, should inspire everyone, not just other child soldiers, but they spent, once they got out, a lot of their effort getting other child soldiers out, rehabilitated with an occupation. That's what we do now within child soldiering. Uh, both Anthony and Florence are part of our organization. They're all two youngest, uh, sons. They got six kids are my godsons. Uh, twins, by the way, um, and they are just incredible people. So I hope this gets made into something bigger. The substantial portion of the book, thanks to Mark Sullivan, goes to our 501(c)(3). And if it's made into a movie, that's the intent, right?

• 53:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 53:20Speaker 05

  You know, more, more kids, uh, and inspire more people if something gets made into, you know, some kind of film or.

• 53:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 53:28Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 53:28Speaker 04

  Yeah. Check it out. Go to the website. I want to put the link in the description. Um, if you want to read about the story, the link is all, well, I'll put the, all the glimmering stars in the description as well. Uh, it's a, it's in a, in a world of absolute shit, like these people are a bright light of, you know, the power of what you could do if you're really like, it's just great. They're just amazing people. And like they've gone through things where they probably shouldn't be, right? Like, uh, they're an absolute success story and, and where it started in a horrible place. So. Make you do good shit, man. Thank you. I appreciate it.

• 54:06Speaker 05

  Appreciate it, man.

• 54:08Speaker 04

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• 56:20Speaker 06

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• 56:26Speaker 07

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• 57:15Jack Murphy?

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• 57:27Speaker 06

  Hi, I'm Jenna Oshkowitz. You might know me from Glee. This is At The Table, the food allergy podcast, a show about food, connection, and what it really looks like to live with food allergies. Each episode, we hear stories from real people like Daniel.

• 57:42Jack Murphy?

  People would always think I was lactose intolerant. So I just kind of shortened my explanation to I'm deathly allergic. In a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

• 57:53Speaker 06

  And while there are challenges, there are moments that remind you you're not alone.

• 57:58Speaker 07

  One of the best guys that I dated, he made a point to memorize all my food allergies.

• 58:04Speaker 06

  So join us and hear their stories and more, because living with food allergies isn't just about what you can't eat. It's about still having your seat at the table. Brought to you by Genentech and Novartis. Listen to At The Table, the food allergy podcast on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow At The Table and start listening on the free iHeart Radio app today.

• 58:24Speaker 02

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• 58:47Jack Murphy?

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• 59:01Speaker 06

  Hi, I'm Jenna Oshkowitz. You might know me from Glee. This is At the Table, the food allergy podcast, a show about food, connection, and what it really looks like to live with food allergies. Each episode, we hear stories from real people like Daniel.

• 59:16Jack Murphy?

  People would always think I was lactose intolerant, so I just kind of shortened my explanation to "I'm deathly allergic," in a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

• 59:27Speaker 06

  And while there are challenges, there are moments that remind you you're not alone.

• 59:32Speaker 07

  One of the best guys that I dated, he made a point to memorize all my food allergies.

• 59:38Speaker 06

  So join us and hear their stories and more, because living with food allergies isn't just about what you can't eat. It's about still having your seat at the table. Brought to you by Genentech and Novartis. Listen to At the Table, the food allergy podcast, on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow At the Table and start listening on the free iHeart Radio app today.

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• 1:00:34Speaker 06

  Hi, I'm Jenna Oshkowitz. You might know me from Glee. This is At the Table, the food allergy podcast, a show about food, connection, and what it really looks like to live with food allergies. Each episode, we hear stories from real people like Daniel.

• 1:00:49Jack Murphy?

  People would always think I was lactose intolerant, so I just kind of shortened my explanation to I'm deathly allergic, in a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

• 1:01:00Speaker 06

  And while there are challenges, there are moments that remind you you're not alone.

• 1:01:05Speaker 07

  One of the best guys that I dated, he made a point to memorize all my food allergies.

• 1:01:11Speaker 06

  So join us and hear their stories and more, because living with food allergies isn't just about what you can't eat. It's about still having your seat at the table. Brought to you by Genentech and Novartis. Listen to At the Table, the food allergy podcast, on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow At the Table and start listening on the free iHeart Radio app today.

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• 1:02:02Speaker 06

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