From Root of Evil to So Supernatural: AMA with Rasha & Yvette

Surprise! In this bonus AMA, Rasha and Yvette answer your questions – from honoring the legacy of their mom, Fauna Hodel, to sharing the supernatural moments that shaped their lives. Come for the stories, stay for the sisterhood… and just a touch of the mystical!

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Rasha Pecoraro?

  So I know we said that we would be off this week.

• 0:04Yvette Gentile?

  We sure did.

• 0:05Rasha Pecoraro?

  But then we thought, hey, let's try something different. And we're going to be sharing more about ourselves with all of you and answering all of your burning questions. So welcome to our AMA episode.

• 0:19Yvette Gentile?

  Woo, woo. Oh, my God. So we just can't tell you guys how grateful we are that you have stuck around ever since Ms. Ashley passed the mic over to us. And today, we really would just love to share more about who we are.

• 0:35Rasha Pecoraro?

  Exactly. So please, stick around and let's peel back the curtain a little bit, if you will. I'm Rasha Pecoraro.

• 0:43Yvette Gentile?

  And I am her big sister, Yvette Gentile.

• 0:46Rasha Pecoraro?

  And a como mai, or welcome to a very special bonus episode of So Supernatural.

• 1:14Rasha Pecoraro?

  So our first question is, can we hear more about what you and your mom experienced?

• 1:20Yvette Gentile?

  And to answer this question, let us just take y'all back a little bit.

• 1:24Rasha Pecoraro?

  So if you are new to us as sisters, or new to So Supernatural, and don't know a lot about us, all it would take would be a quick Google. Really. And don't believe TMZ. I did not leave my ex-husband for my wife, okay? That is not what happened. But we'll get into that another day. But our origin story really comes from our beautiful mother, Fauna Hodel.

• 1:52Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah. Mom was an angel. She was the biggest, brightest, most positive light on this planet. And she had a mission. She had a mission to tell her story. She was a young white child given away at birth to a black family. She experienced all kinds of trials and tribulations, but it made her stronger. And she, like...

• 2:17Yvette Gentile?

  She just fought tooth and nail to bring her story to light. And I won't go into all the details because it was a long, long, long haul before she met Patty Jenkins and Patty did I Am the Night with TNT. And our mother's story finally came to fruition. But with that all being said, we lost our beautiful mother on September 30th, 2017. And this was just months before her dream was to actually come to life. So Rasha and I had to grieve, you know, as we were on the set, watching what our mother

• 3:02Yvette Gentile?

  put, what our mother made happen without her. So it was so bittersweet for so many reasons, you know? It was sweet because she did it, you know? We were like, she did it. But at the same time, it was shit. Why isn't she here to witness this?

• 3:23Rasha Pecoraro?

  She was with us, though.

• 3:25Yvette Gentile?

  I know she was. But when somebody works that hard for their life mission and then is not present, physically present to be there. Yeah, it was a lot. It was a lot. But then we got this opportunity to get involved in podcasting.

• 3:45Rasha Pecoraro?

  We just had to figure out what a podcast was first.

• 3:48Yvette Gentile?

  We had no idea. We were like, sure, we'll do it. No clue. And we did Root of Evil.

• 3:55Rasha Pecoraro?

  Root of Evil, The True Story of the Hodel Family and the Black Dahlia, was our very first podcast. And the amazing showrunner, Sam Sheridan, Patty Jenkins' husband, asked us to do a companion podcast to I Am the Night, and that is what Root of Evil ended up being. And it involved our entire family. It was written, directed, and produced by the amazing Zach Levitt. And it changed our lives. And like Yvette said, we were grieving, but at the same time, we became almost famous overnight during the Today Show, Dr. Oz, Dr. Phil, all, all the things.

• 4:35Rasha Pecoraro?

  And our mom wasn't there with us. But she raised us for that moment, for this moment.

• 4:44Yvette Gentile?

  Truly.

• 4:45Rasha Pecoraro?

  To be telling supernatural stories, to be telling other people's stories. Because at the root of everything, mom was a storyteller. She wanted to tell her story, but then she wanted to know yours.

• 4:59Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah, always. And when we talk about supernatural, just to go back to so supernatural. When we got the call and they said, do the girls, would they be interested in doing supernatural? Anything supernatural? We're like, ah, yes. Because when we look back, like on my mom's, on our mom's journey, I'm the oldest.

• 5:18Rasha Pecoraro?

  Our mom.

• 5:18Yvette Gentile?

  I know, I'm the oldest, so I always tend to say my.

• 5:22Rasha Pecoraro?

  We're 11 years apart, different fathers, but we were raised together.

• 5:25Yvette Gentile?

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 5:26Rasha Pecoraro?

  Our mom.

• 5:27Yvette Gentile?

  But mom had me when she was, you know, 15. So I was like her, her baby, her sister, her daughter, like all the things, you know? But when I look back on mom's story of her growing up, she always experienced so many different supernatural occurrences. You know, where she had a grandmother who came to her, Big Mama, and warned her in the middle of the night to get out of the house, to leave this particular house that she was living in, or she would not survive.

• 5:59Rasha Pecoraro?

  The spirit of Big Mama.

• 6:00Yvette Gentile?

  The spirit of Big Mama, yes. So a ghost of Big Mama. And all through her life, she had these supernatural happenings that kind of guided her. Not kind of, but most definitely guided her throughout her life. So when you say supernatural, supernatural is truly in our DNA.

• 6:21Rasha Pecoraro?

  Yes. And after we did Root of Evil, we did Facing Evil, and that was other people's stories. But supernatural, we get to tell all these amazing stories and still.

• 6:35Rasha Pecoraro?

  Weave ourselves into it because you can't tell a story without feeling some type of connection to it, right?

• 6:42Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah, 100%. And I think that's, that's the beauty of it. You know, when you hear these stories, yes, some of them are so far-fetched and a lot of people are so skeptical, like, we don't know that didn't really happen. But when you listen to these people, like, they have had an experience that a lot of them has changed the trajectory of their lives. You know, when you talk about people that have had encounters with aliens or saw spaceships, I mean, I can think of one that sticks out to me, you know, it's the Phoenix Lights, which I love, and Dr. Lynn Cattai, like, it changed the course of her life because she kept seeing and experiencing these flying spaceships, right?

• 7:27Yvette Gentile?

  Or aircrafts, whatever you want to call them. And she full-heartedly believed in what she saw, so...

• 7:36Rasha Pecoraro?

  And we believed her.

• 7:37Yvette Gentile?

  For sure, for sure.

• 7:40Rasha Pecoraro?

  So, one of the other questions that we got is which one of us is more skeptical about the supernatural?

• 7:47Yvette Gentile?

  I think we're pretty split. I think my personality is probably a slight bit more skeptical than you.

• 7:55Rasha Pecoraro?

  I don't know what you're talking about. Are you trying to say that I'm gullible and naive? Is that what you're saying?

• 8:00Yvette Gentile?

  Oh, no, I'm not saying that. No, I'm just saying that I'm the older, wiser. No, I'm just kidding.

• 8:05Rasha Pecoraro?

  Right. She loves to say that.

• 8:07Yvette Gentile?

  I know, I do love to say that, but, no, you are very wise for, for your age, for certain. I'm not, I'm not trying to be, you know, cynical. No.

• 8:17Rasha Pecoraro?

  Yeah, says, says the one who is obsessed with aliens and believes every single alien story that we've ever told.

• 8:24Yvette Gentile?

  That is not true. I don't believe every single one, but I, I do believe that there are aliens that walk among us. I do believe that. So, there is that.

• 8:40Yvette Gentile?

  Okay, I got one for you, Rash.

• 8:41Rasha Pecoraro?

  Okay.

• 8:42Yvette Gentile?

  Have you ever had an experience with a supernatural force? Like physically, you, yourself?

• 8:51Rasha Pecoraro?

  So I have one story that I think I've told you this before, but if you haven't, our listeners definitely don't know it. So I was about 14. This was at my dad's house in Waileiki. And this is way before I realized I was gay. So I snuck a boy into our house. No one else was home. And I was doing things I shouldn't have been doing. And right as I was about to do something that no 14-year-old should do, Leilani, if you're listening, listen to mommy. Don't do what mommy did. And I heard glass just shattering.

• 9:32Rasha Pecoraro?

  Like every sound you can think of, just glasses shattering all over the place. And I got so nervous. I was like, oh, my God. My parents are home. My dad and my stepdad are home and I'm gonna get in trouble. So I kicked him out, ran out to the kitchen where I heard the noise coming from. And we used to have these just display wine glasses that were on the table. And all of the windows were closed. There was no wind blowing. And all of those glasses, these beautiful translucent glass, wine glasses, and a wine carafe were on the ground, on the carpet. But they weren't shattered at all. They were sitting perfectly on the ground, on the carpet.

• 10:15Rasha Pecoraro?

  I'm like, there is no way that they fell down.

• 10:19Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah, and made that noise on the carpet?

• 10:20Rasha Pecoraro?

  Never, never. There's no way. And a little backstory to the Waileiki house. My father was convinced that it was haunted by the spirit of Pele. He said he always saw Pele in her tutu form. And tutu in Hawaiian means grandma. So I was convinced, I'm like, oh, my God. Pele did that because she didn't want me messing around with a boy and doing something I'd regret later.

• 10:45Yvette Gentile?

  She's like, I'll know how to get him out.

• 10:47Rasha Pecoraro?

  Right, right. And so I know that was supernatural because there was no physical way that could have happened.

• 10:55Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah, and just to clarify, like, we didn't live in the same house at that time. You lived with your dad and I lived with mom.

• 11:01Rasha Pecoraro?

  Right, and I would go back and forth. Yes, just to clarify. I had 50/50 time.

• 11:07Yvette Gentile?

  Well, one of my supernatural stories, and I think I've definitely told you and I've written about it before. When I was probably about five years old, my grandmother Jimmy Lee was babysitting me. Mom was at work. I had just come from Aunt Rosie's house with a bunch of kids, and I was begging to go back. And she had just about had enough of me, my grandmother Jimmy Lee. So she was kind of in one of her moods. She did drink a lot, so there is that. And she kicked me out of the house at five years old. I remember she put on my red little coat and said, "Well, if you want to go, just get out," and kicked me out. It was snowing. It was in Reno. In Reno, Nevada, where I was born.

• 11:52Yvette Gentile?

  I started walking, and I had no idea where I was going. But I crossed a main street. I thought I knew where I was going, you know, as a child, like trying to remember. At five years old. At five years old, trying, right? Anyhow, I get across the street, and all of a sudden, I felt this presence. My grandfather Homer, who had passed probably a year before. This is like in the 70s, the early 70s, right? 71, 72. And it said, a voice, I could hear a voice saying, "Go this way, walk this direction," right? So I changed my path. I went to the left. I started walking. And somehow, I ended up in front of my godmother's house.

• 12:37Yvette Gentile?

  And she looked out the window just at that time. And it was like, what is little Yvette doing in front of my house? But my point in this story is, I was so close to my grandfather that his spirit was literally carrying me, this five-year-old child, you know, not knowing which way she was supposed to be going, carrying me, walking me to safety. And ever since that moment in my life as a five-year-old. I've always known that I would be divinely blessed and protected.

• 13:13Rasha Pecoraro?

  Hmm, that's what mom always used to say to us.

• 13:16Yvette Gentile?

  And that's what mom always used to say as well.

• 13:20Rasha Pecoraro?

  Oh, that's beautiful. I love that story. And you left out the part where you were wearing a little red coat.

• 13:26Yvette Gentile?

  No, I said that.

• 13:27Rasha Pecoraro?

  Oh, you did?

• 13:27Yvette Gentile?

  You missed it.

• 13:29Rasha Pecoraro?

  So rude.

• 13:29Yvette Gentile?

  Pay attention to your sister.

• 13:32Rasha Pecoraro?

  Linda, listen, listen, listen, Linda. Oh, sorry.

• 13:38Rasha Pecoraro?

  Oh, so that, I mean, that's a miracle in itself. That's a question that we got. Anything, you know, that is good and supernatural, like miracles or supernatural protection, like that is an example of it.

• 13:49Yvette Gentile?

  Yes, 100%.

• 13:50Rasha Pecoraro?

  And I believe that every single thing that's happened to us as sisters and really, truly, that's happened to us since mom passed away in 2017, from being on set of I'm the Night, from being asked to do Root of Evil, to do Facing Evil, to So Supernatural, each path that led us there, I think, was supernatural and was a true miracle because we've always wanted to be in the entertainment industry in some capacity. Our mom literally raised us for all of these moments.

• 14:28Yvette Gentile?

  Well, truly, mom did. And what mom, what our mother really wanted us, she always wanted us to work together because we were doing it, you know, we're 11 years apart. So I was always doing my modeling and my acting and my own thing and you were doing your own.

• 14:43Rasha Pecoraro?

  Sports.

• 14:43Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah, sports, exactly.

• 14:45Rasha Pecoraro?

  Another reason.

• 14:46Yvette Gentile?

  School.

• 14:46Rasha Pecoraro?

  Hello, Rasha, you're a lesbian. You should have known that when you were seven and you threw your first softball. I didn't come out till I was 30, so.

• 14:54Yvette Gentile?

  There's so many stories with that, too.

• 14:56Rasha Pecoraro?

  So many stories.

• 14:56Yvette Gentile?

  That would be a whole episode. But she, she always wanted us to be together, you know, because she loved, when you talk about a mother who loved her children, her girls, like we were her everything and still in the afterlife, we are her everything and everything that we do is for her, right?

• 15:17Rasha Pecoraro?

  Absolutely.

• 15:19Yvette Gentile?

  But she so wanted us to be together, you know, and share stories because she was the best storyteller.

• 15:25Rasha Pecoraro?

  Yes.

• 15:26Yvette Gentile?

  So for us to be sitting here at this moment, when you talk about divine timing.

• 15:33Rasha Pecoraro?

  That's supernatural.

• 15:34Yvette Gentile?

  That's supernatural.

• 15:36Rasha Pecoraro?

  Another question we got was if we have had any experiences with the Night Marchers or any other supernatural forces in Hawaii.

• 15:47Yvette Gentile?

  So, growing up in Hawaii, thank God, I did not experience the Night Marchers like in person, but there was a time, growing up, I was probably, I was, I don't know, 16, 17, we would go to the graveyard in Pearl City in Hawaii, and we would like sit out there, do things we probably weren't supposed to be doing.

• 16:10Rasha Pecoraro?

  What were you doing?

• 16:11Yvette Gentile?

  Probably drinking or, I mean, I didn't smoke, but probably, you know, whatever. And we would sit around and like wait until midnight to hear the Night Marchers.

• 16:23Rasha Pecoraro?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 16:24Yvette Gentile?

  But then you start getting freaked out because every little noise that you hear in a cemetery.

• 16:29Rasha Pecoraro?

  You think is the Night Marchers.

• 16:31Yvette Gentile?

  So, that didn't last too long.

• 16:34Rasha Pecoraro?

  And for those of you that don't know who or what the Night Marchers are, they are basically a li'i, or from the Kingdom of Hawaii, and they're warriors that take a path normally from the mountains, so from the mountains to the ocean, and they're spirits. But if you cross their path, you could be killed, or it's just, it's about respect, right? So like if you see them, you're supposed to turn away, you're supposed to say your Hawaiian prayers.

• 17:06Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah, you're supposed to look down.

• 17:07Rasha Pecoraro?

  Yeah, it's, yeah. Stay tuned, I'm sure we'll do an episode on Night Marchers, and I want to interview Lopaka Kapunui from Mysteries of Hawaii, because he's the most amazing storyteller, and has even written a book about the Night Marchers.

• 17:20Yvette Gentile?

  Right.

• 17:21Rasha Pecoraro?

  Anyway, I digress, but.

• 17:22Yvette Gentile?

  But we are, you know, we are island girls through and through, so there are so many incredible Hawaiian folklore stories that we want to dive into, you know, and we want to take you on that journey as well.

• 17:35Rasha Pecoraro?

  And I feel like I was always protected, even though I had a very tumultuous childhood on one side, not with you and mom, of course, but I always felt that I was surrounded by spirits and protection, and I think that's probably because mom always, you know, instilled that in us.

• 17:55Yvette Gentile?

  Well, I have to say, I think that that is Hawaii, because. The Ina, the land, right, is so sacred. And for those people who have never been, once you go, you will understand exactly what I mean the moment you step off that plane. There is just this energy there and it's, you can't explain it, but you can feel it, like from the bottom of your toes to the top of your head, that it is some deep sacred stuff.

• 18:25Rasha Pecoraro?

  Yes, absolutely. And that's one thing I'll always be proud of, being born and raised in Hawaii, because it has what we call mana, which is spirit and magical.

• 18:40Yvette Gentile?

  The energy.

• 18:41Rasha Pecoraro?

  The energy of the Ina, the land. It's so magical.

• 18:45Yvette Gentile?

  Okay, here is another question. If you could have any supernatural experience, what would you want that experience to be and why?

• 18:55Rasha Pecoraro?

  Don't make me cry.

• 18:57Yvette Gentile?

  Well, we're both gonna say the same thing.

• 18:59Rasha Pecoraro?

  I know.

• 19:00Yvette Gentile?

  It would be to see our mom.

• 19:03Rasha Pecoraro?

  Yeah.

• 19:04Yvette Gentile?

  To see her smile, to feel her embrace.

• 19:09Rasha Pecoraro?

  We want her to happily haunt us. I mean, I know I'm crying right now. You probably can't see that, but I want her to happily haunt us. And she promised me.

• 19:21Yvette Gentile?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 19:22Rasha Pecoraro?

  When I was little, I used to hate getting my hair brushed. Do you remember this?

• 19:27Yvette Gentile?

  Yes, no, I do, I do.

• 19:28Rasha Pecoraro?

  And I would, I'd be like, "No, Mom, don't brush my hair again." And she'd be like, "Just wait. I'm gonna haunt you one day when I die and I'm gonna be brushing your hair." And she hasn't done it yet.

• 19:38Yvette Gentile?

  She hasn't done it, I know. So that's a, you know, I think for, for anybody out there who has lost a parent, you know, we call it, excuse my French, we call it the fucked up club. Because it is. And it's like, especially when you have a parent that loved you, like,

• 19:57Rasha Pecoraro?

  Unconditionally.

• 19:58Yvette Gentile?

  Unconditionally, and you, the same with them. It's so... It's just the hardest thing you will ever experience in your life. And to be able to have one more moment is everything.

• 20:14Rasha Pecoraro?

  Yeah. So haunt us, Mom, please.

• 20:16Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah, please haunt us. Please haunt us. When I, when I think about one of this haunting for me, right, with Mom, my mom loved my hair naturally curly.

• 20:28Rasha Pecoraro?

  She did.

• 20:29Yvette Gentile?

  So whenever I wear it straight or have it blown out, like, I could hear my mom saying, "Why are you doing that?"

• 20:39Yvette Gentile?

  Like, "You need to wear your hair naturally curly more." Da, da, da, da, da. Well, today, Mom, hello, I'm in studio, and guess what? My hair is curly.

• 20:50Rasha Pecoraro?

  Yeah, and our mom rarely got mad at us. Mom was the most supportive, loving human being ever.

• 20:58Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah, she was our, our biggest cheerleader.

• 21:02Rasha Pecoraro?

  Okay, so we're switching gears a little bit. We got the question, what unsolved true crime case would you love to know the answer to?

• 21:11Yvette Gentile?

  I think you know.

• 21:12Rasha Pecoraro?

  I know what you're gonna say.

• 21:13Yvette Gentile?

  I have been obsessed, not, I mean, okay, yes, I should say, I, yes, JonBenet Ramsey.

• 21:20Rasha Pecoraro?

  Mm-hmm, I knew you'd say her.

• 21:22Yvette Gentile?

  I just remember this happening when I was at home in Hawaii, and I had done pageants early on. So I was just so devastated, so sad. But this case is just never-ending. Because first you think it's the mom, then you think it's the dad, then you think it's an intruder, and then you think it's the br- like, yeah, that's... And I know Ashley just did this, you know, with the father, and...

• 21:53Rasha Pecoraro?

  Yeah, I would love to know that, but I'd also... Okay, I might get some hate for this, but I'm gonna say it. I need to know the absolute 100% truth. Because I'm 99.9% sure that he did commit the crimes. But I want to 100% for sure know that OJ Simpson.

• 22:16Yvette Gentile?

  Oh, that's what you're gonna say.

• 22:17Rasha Pecoraro?

  Who'd you think I was gonna say?

• 22:18Yvette Gentile?

  I thought you were gonna say Scott Peterson.

• 22:20Rasha Pecoraro?

  Well, I was thinking about that, too.

• 22:22Yvette Gentile?

  Okay.

• 22:22Rasha Pecoraro?

  So really, there's two. So I'd want to know 100% that OJ Simpson killed Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. And I want to know 100% what happened to Lacey Peterson. Because I'm not-

• 22:36Yvette Gentile?

  And her son, her unborn son.

• 22:37Rasha Pecoraro?

  Of course, and her unborn son, Connor, yeah. I, I think that's where I became a crime junkie first was with, you know, the Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman case. And I always like to lead with the victims rather than the perpetrator.

• 22:53Yvette Gentile?

  Always.

• 22:54Rasha Pecoraro?

  Always. But I'd want to know 100% for sure. Because justice needs to be served, even if those people are long gone. The people who need to be convicted.

• 23:04Yvette Gentile?

  Yes, agreed. Okay, what is the next question we have for y'all? Okay, what episode of So Supernatural has been your favorite to look into and record so far?

• 23:18Rasha Pecoraro?

  La Llorona is my absolute favorite episode we've ever recorded. And the reason being is because one of our family friends, one of my best friends in the entire world, Jessica Ariza. We called her when we were preparing for La Llorona. And she told us all sorts of stories because she is of Mexican descent. Yeah, Mexican descent. And when we asked her, have you ever heard of La Llorona? And the first thing she said is, what Mexican hasn't? And then I went down the TikTok, you know, rabbit hole and saw all of these videos that are pretty believable.

• 24:01Yvette Gentile?

  And you were in Mexico as well.

• 24:03Rasha Pecoraro?

  And I was in Mexico back, this is in the year 2000. I was there for like three weeks. I was in Solchimilco and I actually saw, I can't remember the Spanish name of the island, or no, it's the island of the dolls. It's where all these dolls are hanging from these trees and where they think La Llorona was. And I actually was there, but I didn't connect the dots until Jessica was telling us the story. And it was so heartbreaking and so fascinating at the same time.

• 24:35Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah, it's a wild Mexican folklore story. And I remember watching The Legend of La Llorona with Danny Trejo.

• 24:45Rasha Pecoraro?

  Oh, the movie they did.

• 24:47Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're, they go to the island of the dolls.

• 24:51Rasha Pecoraro?

  When I was there in person in 2000, and I was dating someone from Mexico at the time, and he had, again, I wasn't out yet. And he didn't have a really good, he wasn't very good at translating between English and Spanish. So I thought it was a man that had killed his children, not La Llorona that had killed her children. And there was this old man on the island of the dolls. And I'm like, why is there a killer on the island of the dolls? And I was so freaked out on my little boat ride.

• 25:21Yvette Gentile?

  Jeez.

• 25:22Rasha Pecoraro?

  But it was a tourist attraction in, you know, right outside of Mexico City in Solchimilco. But when Jessica was telling us the stories, then it all connected for me. It was nuts. But what episode of So Supernatural has been your favorite?

• 25:35Yvette Gentile?

  There's, there's so many. I, at the top of my, at the top of my mind, there's two right now.

• 25:43Rasha Pecoraro?

  Okay.

• 25:44Yvette Gentile?

  So there's the Bell Air House that we just did, which is in Ohio. And this, this story just, again, it's one of those. Houses, you know, that have crazy supernatural energy going on. But the thing that I guess that gets into my psyche so much is what happened on the land Before. the house was built. What Native Americans lived on this property before? Or what Happened. happened in the 1900s? There was a man who lived there who had a coal mine and there was supposedly an explosion and a bunch of people passed away. Like, there's that energy.

• 26:26Yvette Gentile?

  Then there's also something that I had never heard of before, which is called the ley lines. Right. And these are spiritual cross lines of where there are possible portals of energy that could come through. And that house sits on one of these particular ley lines. This just baffles me to, I can't even, I get so like I get worked up. I get worked up and I get a little geeked out because I think, oh, my God. Okay, so you have the spiritual, right? And then you have the scientific because is it just electromagnetic energy that is under these grounds?

• 27:10Yvette Gentile?

  Or is it an actual spiritual portal of some kind? Right. Right? And I said this on one of the episodes, I wish we could have the medium, Alison Dubois and Neil deGrasse Tyson come and like, we could have a, like, talk to them about A battle. A battle. Science versus spiritual. Right. But that, that particular story was fascinating to me. There's another one, the Carol Adering, about this ghost ship that You're obsessed with it. That I'm obsessed with, that all of the people on the ship just disappeared. No trace, gone.

• 27:46Rasha Pecoraro?

  What do you think happened?

• 27:48Yvette Gentile?

  This is the thing. Again, I'm the type, I like to read, I like to watch documentaries, I like to watch movies. So I started watching 1899 on Netflix, which talks about a ghost ship. Well, they, they're describing like all these different portals that these people could have disappeared through. Now, do I think that happened? I don't know.

• 28:10Rasha Pecoraro?

  Right.

• 28:11Yvette Gentile?

  Is it interesting to assume that happened? Very much so. But I, it's just like, where, where do they go? Like, how can there still be food, like, on the tables? And then there's nobody there. Was it a mutiny? Did they just disappear out of thin air? Like, the bodies have never been found. Granted, there could have been sharks or animal, you know, that ate the bodies, but I don't know. It just doesn't add up. So these are like mysteries that I can't seem to get out of my mind.

• 28:45Yvette Gentile?

  Okay, here we go. We got another one. What supernatural story do you believe is 100% true?

• 28:53Rasha Pecoraro?

  I know what you're gonna say, so I can't take that answer.

• 28:58Rasha Pecoraro?

  I will say, even though I've never physically seen one myself, I would say ghosts or spirits. I 100% believe in them. I have felt things, I have heard things, but I have never seen things, but I still 100% believe that ghosts and spirits exist in this world.

• 29:20Yvette Gentile?

  I, I absolutely 100% agree with you. And I just wanna backtrack a little bit. When I was telling that story, when I was a little girl, remember?

• 29:28Rasha Pecoraro?

  Mm-hmm.

• 29:29Yvette Gentile?

  Fast forward years later, I was in Oregon. I was modeling in Portland, Oregon, and I was with my friend Shayla. Do you remember this story?

• 29:36Rasha Pecoraro?

  I do.

• 29:37Yvette Gentile?

  We were at this cute little restaurant in Lake Oswego, and she started to tell me that there is a, there's a presence of a woman here who wants to speak to you. And I was like, wait, what? And she said, she's coming through as your grandmother.

• 29:57Yvette Gentile?

  And she wants to apologize to you for throwing you out of the house when you were five years old, or however old I was.

• 30:06Rasha Pecoraro?

  And that was Jimmy Lee.

• 30:07Yvette Gentile?

  And that was Jimmy Lee. And she started to describe, like, our house, my grandmother's house. Like, my grandmother had plastic over her couch back then, and, like, the window frame, the curtains, and it, it brought me to tears in that restaurant, that she was actually coming through Shayla.

• 30:30Rasha Pecoraro?

  To apologize.

• 30:31Yvette Gentile?

  To apologize to me. So I, I 100% agree with that as well. As well, as, you all know what I'm gonna say. Aliens, aliens, and aliens. I absolutely believe that they do walk among us. I just feel like there's too much out there to not believe that they don't exist.

• 30:56Rasha Pecoraro?

  Couldn't agree more.

• 30:57Yvette Gentile?

  Actually, I have to tell you the story. I didn't tell you this story yet.

• 31:00Rasha Pecoraro?

  What?

• 31:01Yvette Gentile?

  So, I was just home in Hawaii. Gino and I were home in Hawaii. We were out on the balcony in Waikiki, and it was probably about 10 o'clock at night, and we were looking to the Ebuside, you know, the mountain range of the Ebuside from where we were. And there was this light that kept bouncing in and out, like, over the range and then back. And I'm not talking like-

• 31:25Rasha Pecoraro?

  An airplane.

• 31:26Yvette Gentile?

  An airplane, you know? It was like, something unotherly. And I was like, Gino, did you see that? Did you see that? And he, and we got, we, actually, we had our binoculars, and he took a look, and he's like, I do, I see it. But it was, I couldn't explain it. It was, it was moving way too fast. Granted, it wasn't close, like, some people have had encounters, because, let me just tell you, I would love to be one of those people who saw it up close.

• 31:53Rasha Pecoraro?

  You just wanna see the spacecrafts. You don't wanna see the actual aliens.

• 31:56Yvette Gentile?

  I don't know. I mean, probably, but I think I would, I want to see the spacecraft first.

• 32:04Rasha Pecoraro?

  Just to know-

• 32:05Yvette Gentile?

  Just to know that it's real.

• 32:07Rasha Pecoraro?

  Mm-hmm.

• 32:08Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah.

• 32:09Rasha Pecoraro?

  That's so funny. I know. I don't think you told me that story.

• 32:12Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah, I totally forgot.

• 32:13Rasha Pecoraro?

  I know. And, listeners, you have to know, Yvette and I talk, like, five or six times a day.

• 32:20Rasha Pecoraro?

  So I'm shocked that she didn't tell me that story.

• 32:22Yvette Gentile?

  You've had a lot going on in the last couple of months, too.

• 32:25Rasha Pecoraro?

  This is true. This is true.

• 32:27Yvette Gentile?

  But I would love, I would love to see.

• 32:30Rasha Pecoraro?

  A spaceship.

• 32:30Yvette Gentile?

  Spaceship.

• 32:33Rasha Pecoraro?

  All right. Have you ever changed your opinion on a supernatural story while looking into it and working on an episode of So Supernatural?

• 32:41Yvette Gentile?

  Hmm. I have to say, when we did the, the episode on the monoliths.

• 32:46Rasha Pecoraro?

  Right.

• 32:47Yvette Gentile?

  At first, my mind, because you know, my mind always goes directly to, it's gotta be an alien. They, they put it there. That's, they did it, you know? But when I think about that story and how easy it was to dismantle this, I thought, you know, I think this is definitely probably an artist.

• 33:06Rasha Pecoraro?

  Right.

• 33:07Yvette Gentile?

  That put it there. Maybe an artist that passed away. I think we spoke about that in the, in the episode. Um, and maybe someone who carried on that legacy, right, of this particular artist, and then just started putting them up in other places. But I don't believe that those were put there by aliens, per se.

• 33:30Rasha Pecoraro?

  Hmm.

• 33:31Yvette Gentile?

  What about you?

• 33:32Rasha Pecoraro?

  Well, for me, when we first started, you know, doing our research and diving into Dear David, I like really believed everything that happened. But I think, and again, everyone's truth is their truth.

• 33:50Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah.

• 33:50Rasha Pecoraro?

  Right? But I think that the BuzzFeed writer that experienced seeing, seeing Dear David, I have a feeling it was more of very vivid, bad dreams. I think, like, especially because, like, I went to his Instagram and I like, kinda like went on a rabbit hole.

• 34:07Yvette Gentile?

  He stalked him, though.

• 34:08Rasha Pecoraro?

  Stalked him a little bit. And I was like, oh, this is like his whole identity. You know what I mean? Like, he talked about, I mean, which is fine. But I was like, I don't, I don't know. Because in the moment, when I saw the photos of Dear David, you know, I could, like, I know you couldn't really see.

• 34:25Yvette Gentile?

  I couldn't, I couldn't see it at all.

• 34:27Rasha Pecoraro?

  Dear David on the, the camera. But I thought that I could. But then going back, I was like, no, it was kind of a stretch. A little bit. But again, everyone's truth is their truth. So.

• 34:39Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah. And I think I was always a little skeptic. Well, I mean, I, I teeter a little bit back and forth because he was. A comedic writer.

• 34:46Rasha Pecoraro?

  Right.

• 34:46Yvette Gentile?

  You know what I mean? And then to go from something, you know, funny to something so dark. Again, these people are experiencing whatever they're experiencing in real time to them. Right? So whether it be true or not to us, it is definitely true to them.

• 35:04Rasha Pecoraro?

  Yeah.

• 35:06Rasha Pecoraro?

  All right, another question we got. If you really knew me, you would know that.

• 35:10Yvette Gentile?

  I am a very old soul. I feel like I have walked this earth a few times over. I don't sweat the small stuff. I live in the moment. And I always project for people to do the same, to take their moments, to take their breaths, to go to the ocean, because that, the ocean, is my happy place. It is my peace of mind. It is my sanctuary. I love life. I love people. I love giving. I think the most important thing in this world is to be kind to one another.

• 35:53Yvette Gentile?

  And that is what our mother, like, so instilled in my sister and I. And I think that is what is so infectious and contagious about us.

• 36:07Rasha Pecoraro?

  Yeah. We try to lead with kindness always, even when you want to punch someone in the face.

• 36:12Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah, even, even then. Even then.

• 36:15Rasha Pecoraro?

  Lead with aloha. Lead with kindness.

• 36:19Yvette Gentile?

  What about you, Rasha?

• 36:21Rasha Pecoraro?

  So for me, if you really knew me, you would know that first and foremost, I am from the beautiful island of Oahu in Honolulu, Hawaii. I always lead with that, always, because that is so much of who I am as a human being.

• 36:41Rasha Pecoraro?

  And I think that our mom made the conscious decision to raise both of us there. I'm blond-haired, blue-eyed. Yvette is this beautiful biracial goddess. And she, our mom, decided to raise us in a place where racism isn't as prevalent as it is in other places in the world. Because she didn't want us to experience what she experienced. So I think that's such a huge thing for me. And I'm a huge advocate. Even before I came out as a lesbian at the age of 30, I always wanted to fight for what was right, always.

• 37:25Rasha Pecoraro?

  I always try to lead with kindness even when I'm fighting. But I believe in human rights. I believe in equality. And I think that stems from our mom.

• 37:36Yvette Gentile?

  Right, well, we believe in humanity for all.

• 37:39Rasha Pecoraro?

  Yes.

• 37:39Yvette Gentile?

  And that is what mom fought for her entire life. You know, being a white woman raised in a black environment at a very-

• 37:48Rasha Pecoraro?

  Thinking she was mixed.

• 37:49Yvette Gentile?

  Thinking she was mixed, but years later finding out. But, you know, always wanting to just show kindness and love. She just thought racism was the stupidest thing on the planet, you know? And to have two girls that were so different, she just, she wanted us to empower and, and, and hold the highest and the best for ourselves and for the world itself, right?

• 38:20Rasha Pecoraro?

  Absolutely.

• 38:22Yvette Gentile?

  Okay, y'all, so now we're gonna go into some rapid-fire questions.

• 38:27Rasha Pecoraro?

  What would you say to someone that is new to you and So Supernatural? If you're new here, eh, como amai? Welcome to So Supernatural. We're gonna giggle, we're gonna cry, we're gonna go through all of it, and we'll give you all the theories.

• 38:41Yvette Gentile?

  Okay, what's your biggest pet peeve?

• 38:43Rasha Pecoraro?

  When people don't believe that Yvette and I are sisters because of the way that we look, and when they say, oh, you're only half sisters. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're sisters.

• 38:55Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah, I have to agree. That is my biggest pet peeve as well, because, yes, hello, we are sisters. It is possible.

• 39:02Rasha Pecoraro?

  I know. We came out of the same womb, people.

• 39:04Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah.

• 39:05Rasha Pecoraro?

  Just have different fathers.

• 39:07Yvette Gentile?

  But I guess one of my other biggest pet peeves is when people don't listen and just form their own opinion without hearing what someone else is truly saying.

• 39:17Rasha Pecoraro?

  Hmm, that's a good one. All right, here's another one. What's your go-to energy drink?

• 39:22Yvette Gentile?

  I do not have a go-to energy drink.

• 39:24Rasha Pecoraro?

  You used to.

• 39:26Yvette Gentile?

  And then I got heart palpitations, so I could not drink it anymore.

• 39:31Rasha Pecoraro?

  She gives me stink eye every time I have a Red Bull, but I don't care. I love them.

• 39:34Yvette Gentile?

  Uh, let's just say, my go-to energy drink is green tea.

• 39:39Rasha Pecoraro?

  Oh, my God, you're so boring.

• 39:41Yvette Gentile?

  We got another one. Are you a morning or afternoon person? I am a morning person.

• 39:48Rasha Pecoraro?

  I am not a morning person. I am more of an afternoon person, because, to be honest, after I was diagnosed with breast cancer, I feel like, this was in April of 2024 when I was diagnosed, eight years to the day of when our mom was diagnosed, April 8th, to be exact. And since that diagnosis, I had to go through several surgeries. And so I've been more of a napper because of all the surgeries. And I feel like I'm my best self after I have a nap.

• 40:20Yvette Gentile?

  Yeah, well, that's because your body is recuperating from everything that it's been through.

• 40:25Rasha Pecoraro?

  Yeah, for sure. But a glimmer of brightness is that the cancer is gone, no more surgeries, and I haven't napped in like, two weeks.

• 40:38Rasha Pecoraro?

  So I have more time throughout the entire day to enjoy life.

• 40:42Yvette Gentile?

  Oh, my God. And I am definitely a morning person. I am the boot camp chick who gets up and goes to boot camp with my husband at 6:00 a.m. And I get all these memes from my friends sending them to me like I'm the one calling them at 5:30 in the morning for them to go get up and they're like still sleeping, sound asleep. So I am that girl. Yes.

• 41:03Rasha Pecoraro?

  All right, here's another one.

• 41:04Yvette Gentile?

  What is your favorite karaoke song?

• 41:06Rasha Pecoraro?

  My go to karaoke song, I have to say it in Japanese, karaoke, is "You Make Me Feel Like a Natural Woman" from Aretha Franklin.

• 41:16Yvette Gentile?

  And my go to karaoke song. Let me get my song in my head. We are family. Hey, hey, hey, hey, yeah. I got all my sisters with me. Hey, hey.

• 41:45Rasha Pecoraro?

  All right, friends. We hope you enjoyed this just as much as we did. If there is anything, and we mean anything, anything more that you'd love to hear or know about us that we didn't get to today, we would love to hear from you.

• 41:58Yvette Gentile?

  That's right. Just connect with us on Instagram at So Supernatural Pod and we will be back next Friday with an all new episode.

• 42:07Rasha Pecoraro?

  So what do you think, Chuck? Do you approve?

• 42:13Speaker 02

  I've been having a hard time trying to explain what Midnight Burger is. How about I let them give it a shot?

• 42:19Yvette Gentile?

  Your podcast is amazing.

• 42:20Speaker 03

  It's such an amazing show altogether. You guys have actively ruined all other audio dramas for me.

• 42:26Rasha Pecoraro?

  You can't get people to understand the humaning that happens in this damn show.

• 42:29Speaker 03

  Keep doing what you're doing because it's awesome. You might not think it, but you are far more important than you realize. Thank you.

• 42:36Speaker 02

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