5 Strategies For Calming Anxiety & How To End The Stigma Around Mental Health

Sid Malhotra learned from a young age not to share his feelings. Growing up in New Delhi, he watched as people in his family and community bottled up their emotions and figured he should do the same. In this episode of On Purpose, well-known Indian Actor Sid Malhotra and Jay Shetty talk about how to end the stigma around mental health that is so apparent in many cultures, specifically the South Asian culture Sid grew up in. They break down five strategies for learning to talk about your mental health challenges openly and in turn manage the anxiety that comes with them. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Jay Shetty?

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• 3:15Jay Shetty?

  Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose, the number one health and wellness podcast in the world, thanks to each and every one of you. Today's episode is from a conversation between me and Sid Malotra. Sid is an accomplished Indian actor. If you haven't seen his work, make sure you check it out. Today, our conversation is about the cultural bias that is resistant to talking about mental health openly, specifically in the South Asian community, but in many across the world. And maybe you can relate. For many communities, supportive frameworks for mental health is deeply stigmatized. My conversation with Sid will lay bare some strategies that he has employed with his loved ones that will inspire those of you who may be struggling with cultural stigma around mental health.

• 4:00Jay Shetty?

  Sid and I had this conversation over Instagram Live a few weeks back during my Mental Health Day series, and I'm really excited to share this conversation with you today on On Purpose. Share what you learned from it, or any questions that come up for you, and tag Sid and I on Instagram.

• 4:17Jay Shetty?

  Sid, how's it going? It's so good to see you, man. Thank you so much for doing this. And Sid, how are you doing today?

• 4:24Speaker 01

  I'm good, man. I'm really excited to be here, to use our platform for something which is positive and happy. It's what I'm great happy to be a part of and, you know, learn something, say something and let's hopefully, you know, people, people see some sense of positivity and happiness in their day.

• 4:40Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely. I want to take a moment to credit Sid because we, we connected recently on Instagram and then we were talking on WhatsApp. And he just, when he reached out, he's just saying, Jay, you know what? I just want to do something good with my platform. I want to help people and I really acknowledge you for that, Sid. It's, it's truly special. I mean, you're a man who needs no introduction. You're an incredible actor, fashion guru as well. But, but you know, to, to want to do good in the world, which is what your heart really is in the conversations we had. And, and I think that's really special, man. So I, I appreciate you deeply.

• 5:14Speaker 01

  No, I, I'm a great admirer of all the words that you say on social media to, to help people. And that's how I was thinking all throughout this lockdown in India, that, you know, it's great. We have this platform, you know, even you have a great massive voice today. I have it all thanks to, you know, the work over the years. So I feel it's, it's somewhat our duty to kind of, you know, at least have an attempt to give something positive. Especially in today's day and age, man. Today, today hate is selling so much and, and no one's spared. I remember you and I talking about it, like even you get stuff which is there. I mean, actors for sure.

• 5:54Speaker 01

  I think we have far more easy target and, and being criticized is a part of our job at times. Like of course, you know, some people like something, some people don't. But when they get personal or when it's become a trend to say, use your anonymity on, on, on, uh, being anonymous on, on social media, just say anything on, on the comment section. It's, it's just, it's sad. So I think here's my attempt with, with so much of yours to give something out positive on this universe of social media.

• 6:27Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I love that, man. Everything you've just shared so far has already been so insightful. Tell us about, I know there's one topic we really wanted to dive in together. And I think it's really important that we dive into it together. You know, you're born and raised in India, you work in India primarily. I'm born and raised in London. You know, for both of us, being in the South Asian community, we were talking a lot about how the South Asian community struggles sometimes with talking about mental health. And I hear that too, whether it's in comments or people who message me on, you know, DM or whatever it may be. And it's tough in the South Asian community to talk about mental health

• 7:08Jay Shetty?

  because often we expect ourselves and each other to have it all together and kind of have a perfect life. Tell us about some of the things you've noticed or observed in that area and that you think would be useful to people listening today.

• 7:23Speaker 01

  Well, I grew up in a middle-class Punjabi household in New Delhi. And, you know, which is the northern part of India. And there, I feel we anyways struggle with, you know, communicating, especially men, I would say. Especially with our fathers. As I grew up, there is a kind of stigma to not talk about if they're not feeling well or they're stressed about something, they feel it's a sign of weakness to talk about it. And I think it festers from us just putting so much pressure on our kids in our lives.

• 8:03Speaker 01

  Like, we feel like, oh, my God, like, as soon as a child is born, we need to do some, everything which is useful. Everything has to go to a direction of either making a lot of money or getting married, whether you're a man or a woman. And you have no other space to be weak. You have no space to be, you know, saying that I'm not feeling up and about today. Why? Come on, go to school or go to your college. So I grew up in a household just like that with me and my elder brother. And it took me, I think, in my mid twenties when I did come to Bombay, when I was twenty-one, twenty-two. To actually tell my dad, like, you know, we we kept having conversations for the first six, eight months.

• 8:45Speaker 01

  And we used to always ended on a just a simple bye, very, very courteous, but. And after a year, I started really missing family and, you know, you're by yourself here. And I told my dad, I said, okay, uh, okay, dad, love you, bye. And it was just silence and he just kept the phone down. He was just off.

• 9:05Speaker 01

  I don't know, yeah, come on. I said, it's, it's, it's, it's normal. Then I had to go to Delhi next time and, and make him. Sit down on that sofa and have a chat with him about. Why do we not say I love you to each other in the end, you know, whether it's you and mom, me and you. And I realized that it's just culturally, we're lacking um a sense of. Training or like we don't, nobody's taught us when you were growing up, nobody's taught us to to tell, talk about our issues. Because it's considered weak. And which is completely wrong, because as soon as I got out, I realized what real life really hits you like, you know. I, I didn't know anybody in Bombay. You know, I, I was lucky enough to meet friends who let me stay at their houses.

• 9:49Speaker 01

  Um, you know, we, we were barely making enough money to, to go to auditions and do other stuff. And that's where what I learned in the last, say, thirteen, fourteen years, I wish. Someone would have told me when I was growing up in my teens. Or, or, you know, when I just about, I, I even feel this should happen in schools, man. Uh, but I mean, that's a separate. Together, but, but. It's, it's, it has to break. I just, I, I think conversations like these or people now talking about it far more openly. In today's day and age is changing. Uh, I didn't have anybody while growing up, uh, we didn't have social media. I mean, you and I are almost the same generation. And, uh, uh, I wish, I wish I had books or I had knowledge or I had YouTube at that time.

• 10:34Speaker 01

  To, to say, yeah, your talks. Um, and I feel today. I'm more at ease talking about anxiety, which which we, I mean, we are the most volatile profession in the world, being an actor in any field, on stage or in movies or on television is is never constant. It's there's always so many ups and downs. And sometimes people think that we have it all and we have it easy. But I I I've lived most of my life not being an actor, uh at least for the first twenty six, twenty seven years. And now I've lived the past few years, uh uh you know, it's oddly today is actually uh it's it it's been eight years almost by tomorrow that I became an actor. No, congratulations, man.

• 11:20Speaker 01

  It's been eight years, so it's it's it's only been eight years and I feel, um that's what I feel. I think it's there is so much to to talk about in terms of handling anxiety. I think we need to know that it it happens to everyone. I can't I can't I I think anyone's who's saying he's never felt anxious or felt low. Uh they're just lying to themselves and to others and they're just pretending and it's it's sad because they feel they can't talk to other people. I think uh I think one needs to change that. Um but I felt uh um especially like one of your, one of your um I think chats, which was talking about like if you're wearing somebody else's clothes.

• 12:03Speaker 01

  If you're uh you know, living somebody else's life, it's it's it's difficult. It's claustrophobic. And I think that's what I see my friends and family sometimes going through in in other parts of society. Uh or even say us per se as actors, we we have to put up a persona. Um you know, at times and it it can get exhausting. Uh and it kind of took me this many years to realize to it's it's okay to not uh to not be in a in a great mood all the time. Now, I'm not saying be outright rude. But I'm like, you know, I I need to take that half an hour and contemplate before I go and meet people. Or it's when I'm shooting.

• 12:47Speaker 01

  Or it's when I have to deal with uh with something that's not gone my way. Uh. So I feel, I feel especially being an actor, it's about, you know, dealing with failures. It's, it's, it's still working after, uh, you know, seeing failures. It's, it's, it's a lot to do with failures. It's not hardly in any actor's lifetime that they would say that they've always had it, you know, their way. Everybody has phases. So I think, um, that's where, that's where my expertise would come in today is just to tell people that it's, you're not alone and, uh, you know, everyone has their days. And failure doesn't, it's, it's never the end of the world. I, I don't think anyone's, very few unlucky ones really have to go through those situations that,

• 13:32Speaker 01

  that one act or that one particular day would define the rest of their lives. I think, uh, I think we put too much pressure on ourselves. And we need to start teaching our kids to deal with the emotions and talk about things as opposed to always telling them that, don't talk about it, it's, it's weak. You just have to concentrate.

• 13:55Jay Shetty?

  That's amazing, man. What an amazing message. Everyone who's listening and watching, I hope you're, uh, allowing these incredible insights and just, quite frankly, just the vulnerability that Sid's sharing with. Uh, just allowing it in because I think the, the overall message that I'm hearing from Sid is that there's no one in the world who doesn't experience anxiety, who doesn't experience a low day. Uh, no matter how much money you have or fame you have or followers you have or whatever any of that stuff we all have or anyone doesn't have, that doesn't change that human emotion of feeling. And I think sometimes we're programmed to believe that when we get to that next stage,

• 14:39Jay Shetty?

  when I get that award, uh, when I get that job, when I get that promotion, then somehow this will all disappear. But that's not true. Everyone at all stages in their career and their relationships will experience this. And therefore, we have to get more comfortable with talking about it, with experiencing it, because it's not going to just disappear or not going to go away. And what Sid said very beautifully is that it's it's okay. It's okay that not every day you're having the best day of your life.

• 15:08Speaker 01

  I actually felt more anxious after becoming an actor. I think maybe because I had no reference, point of reference as to what a struggling actor needs to do or doesn't need to do. Then I got into assistant direction. So even even a small little job or an ad film or shoot used to, used to give me that high for the rest of the month. I rent and I've made salary. Oh, wow, I'm assisting on a film now where I get to learn so much. Oddly after, uh, when I became an actor is all these things started stepping in because I wasn't trained for it. I don't come from a family where anyone's, uh, you know, been this, uh, in in limelight and a, and a known face. Um, so when people say, oh my God, he's

• 15:50Speaker 01

  successful. And, you know, so everything must be sorted. What do you have? You have money, you have fame and, you know, you're, you're working every day. That, those are just, I mean, those are something, they have nothing to do with, say, mental health. It's that we have a different level. Everybody has their levels of, uh, you know, judging certain situations.

• 16:12Jay Shetty?

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• 18:26Speaker 01

  If you had to give a younger me advice, for example, if I came to you like, say, 10 years ago, I was like, Jay, I'm a struggling actor. I am in my mid-20s, and I don't know where my future lies. My family can't provide me all the financial security.

• 18:47Speaker 01

  Do I need to have a deadline that I spend to achieve my passion? Or is it something I can do to just be more at present and not live in the future? What would you say to kids like me who want to be actors or in any creative field?

• 19:06Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, absolutely. That's a great question. I think the first thing I'd say is that...

• 19:13Jay Shetty?

  The understanding of living your purpose has as three elements to it. So, passion is one of the three. It's passion, strengths and compassion. So, if you really want to live an effective, purposeful life, you have to find something that has the synergy between these three. So, if you take someone like you, you're passionate about acting. You've worked on developing the strengths and the skills to actually be a good actor. And you do it because you want to make other people happy. You have, you, you talked to me about that previously, where you have desire that the work has a positive impact on people. So, when people are chasing their passion, the question I often ask people is, are you also interested in chasing your skills and strengths

• 19:57Jay Shetty?

  that are needed to make that passion a reality? Because if you're not willing to do that work and that sacrifice, then it's probably a better idea that you choose something else. And so, having that very real, honest look at yourself and saying, "Am I ready? Am I really so passionate about this that I'm willing to work and train and develop and go through those tough times with no money and less support and less stability?" And you have to be okay with that in your mind first before you experience it. At the same time, what I would suggest to a lot of young people is that now's the time to invest in your mental health. Don't wait till something goes wrong or something bad happens in your family or in your life

• 20:42Jay Shetty?

  before you start to switch to it. So, ask yourself right now, are you taking care of your mental health? Are you taking care of your physical health? Are you, are you really allowing yourself to be in a position to flourish and boom? Or actually, are you putting yourself in a very vulnerable position where your mental health can be affected? So, I would say that chasing your passion and taking care of your mental health can go hand in hand. And if they do go hand in hand, you're more likely to last the test of time. What would you have liked to hear? I want to hear that. What was the advice that you would have liked to have here at that time?

• 21:16Speaker 01

  No firstly, absolutely. I think, I think to spend number of hours in, in, in working on the craft, on, on the skill, like whether you wanna be an athlete, whether you wanna be an actor, a singer, if you're willing to spend that many hours, you know, uh, working on the craft, I think that's, that is more important than waiting for that one break. Because I, I remember I went into, uh, say assistant direction behind the camera because I had no clue what a film set like. And I'm like, uh, and I was lucky enough to be, uh, you know, on a massive film called My Name Is Khan with the best people in the business. And, and just be giving clap and working. And that took about a year and a half of my life and, and I,

• 21:58Speaker 01

  um, actually loved the process. So it kind of also connects you with your passion. Um, so as I said, oddly at that time, I was, I was, I was on a high. I was on a set where, where, uh, Shah Rukh Khan and Kajol are performing and, uh, you know, I get to be an A D. It's only when one, uh, you know, gets that responsibility of being an actor themselves and trying to entertain people is where, uh, you battle with, okay, how do I handle the situation? Because you can't please everyone. And, uh, and not that you should not attempt to as, as a, as a performer,

• 22:37Speaker 01

  but to know that it'll never be a hundred percent, uh, you know, response or review when people see your, uh, stuff or anything, you know, singing, dancing or, or being an athlete. Um, so I felt, uh, if, if a younger me would have, uh, uh, gotten, just, I, I don't know, it's tough to, it's tough to articulate what, it would just be somebody, somebody from that feel or somebody from just telling you that, that it's this, this, the next day that you feel is your, is like the end of everything or this audition is the be all and end all. Uh, it's not like, like, like we'll give you not a second chance,

• 23:18Speaker 01

  but I think you can't, it's doing no good to, to put all that focus, uh, or, or, or think that, oh my God, it's work. Because you get into a negative, negative zone. I, I used to get into a very anxious, you know, negative zone like, oh my God, if this doesn't work out. And I would start thinking about that weekend. You know, ten, ten days before and I missed out my ten days, I could have done something else. I could have done something more productive with those ten days. But the anxiety of building it up, uh, you know, before those ten days. Oh, my God, it's on the tenth. Okay, I'm on the first of the week, first of the month. Oh, my God, uh, uh, but it wasn't productive.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  I wish somebody would have told me a productive day to use those, those ten days, uh, pre to any big event of your life.

• 24:06Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 24:06Speaker 01

  You know, start is never helped anyone. Uh, and I used to be, you know, sweating in a bunch of like, uh, and nervous and we still are. All actors are, I think all actors too late. Uh, when our movie is released, there's, there's an immense amount of anxiety that come in whether you. I've spoken to senior actors, you know, whether you're working for ten years or twenty years or twenty-five years. Um, so I think you, you can't change that situation, but one can only change themselves. And, um, yeah, I would, I would be looking for that practical advice for those ten days. Before my exam match performance, whatever you.

• 24:47Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Yeah, I think, I think it's really important you said that because one of the things that I've done is I've realized that every time I do something new or I have a new launch or a new interview or a new meeting or, like, I was nervous before I spoke to you the first time. You know, it's like, and, and that's a good thing, like, I like that and I've, I've trained my mind to recognize that that's actually excitement, that there is a sense of excitement in that nervousness. And that if you start to look for that excitement, then actually you start to realize, oh, wait a minute, I am nervous and anxious. But there's a part of me that's also very excited and like, I'm gonna discover something new. Uh, but one thing that's really helped me with anxiety is breath work.

• 25:32Jay Shetty?

  So breathing and meditation has helped me so much. And, you know, obviously in Indian culture, meditation and prayer is a huge part of your life.

• 25:42Jay Shetty?

  But to really use breath work to slow down your heart rate and to bring down your pace of breath and to deepen your breath, it biologically changes how you feel. And I think that's what's so powerful about breathing, is that whenever I feel nervous, if I'm about to go on stage in front of 10,000, 30,000 people, or if I'm about to go on TV for an interview, or if I'm just walking into a new meeting where I don't know the person, I focus on breathing in for a count of four, one, two, three, four, and you breathe out for more than four, so you breathe out for more than four. And when you breathe in and out in that way, you just start to slow down your whole body and mind, and you just get out of your head.

• 26:27Jay Shetty?

  And my favorite technique, which I was trained in as a monk, but is also used by therapists and psychologists today, is often when you get lost in your head, that's what anxiety is, right? You feel it in your head, like your mind's just going crazy. This technique is known as a grounding technique, it's fantastic, and it's called the five, four, three, two, one method. So when you're too stuck in your head and you're feeling anxious, you ask yourself, what are the five things I can see in this room right now? So I can see the ceiling, I can see the floor, I can see the wall, I can see that painting behind you, I can see my bed. And you say, what are the four things I can touch? So I can touch my shirt, I can touch my trousers, I can touch the chair,

• 27:12Jay Shetty?

  and I'm feeling the coolness of the table, I have a marble table in front of me, it's cool, but this chair is slightly warmer. And then what are the three things I can hear? So you just be silent for a second, go, what are the three things I can hear? So I hear my wife upstairs, I hear some birds outside, and then I I hear the sound from my phone and my laptop. What are the two things that I can smell? So you just breathe in. What are the sense and what's the one thing I can taste? And so when you do this five, four, three, two, one technique, you get out of your head and you get into the present moment, which allows you to take a breath and get away from your anxiety. So those are two things that I've definitely used that have been really powerful for me,

• 27:57Jay Shetty?

  especially in those before something big days.

• 28:01Speaker 01

  Oh, wow. So that's pretty much you're covering all your senses. That that'd be interesting because in most of our, say, acting workshop workshops, that's what we do, like a lot of breath work and and manipulating emotions. It's got got to do a lot to do with with, say, your breath. It would you would be you would exhale and, you know, when you're when you're crying, you would inhale more differently. It's it's kind of a rhythm. Um, but those are interesting techniques. Now I'm gonna use it for my for my next event. For me as well, I think yoga has been a great, great help. Uh, recent time, recent months, I've done more extensive yoga because of the time that I get. Um, and and it's again about breath and it's it's different.

• 28:42Speaker 01

  It's different. Like when they talk about prana and yoga, uh, the squat I do in the gym is different when I'm squatting if I would do yoga in it because, you know, it's it's different kind of breath. It's a different kind of strength that you need.

• 28:57Jay Shetty?

  Yes.

• 28:58Speaker 01

  And for me, uh, that has technically helped me to just, you know, go more inwards and and really observe. And I was I was lucky enough to have a good teacher as well. So I think, uh, addictive now. Yes, I do it, say, at least twice or thrice a week. I have to, you know, go onto the mat and and sweat it out. I feel sweat as well biologically, like when you run things out. Uh, like I use cardio recently now for the last year or so as something to just get all all all it it's not it is not it is not fitness. Yes, everybody should be fit and work out. I use it. It works out for me. But I feel once people realize that, you know, your your body, uh,

• 29:42Speaker 01

  if you can't control your mind, I can control my body. And and my mind will hopefully follow. So uh I'm all for like, you know, hitting anything, running, cycling and just consistently sweating. And it kind of relieves all the anxiety. Um I I tend to have a lot of uh anger that I hold on to with different situations or or you know, my dealings and I feel that kind of calms me down. I it's I'm addicted to sweating every day. Because otherwise, I would break, you know, otherwise I would go on set and I'll be in a in a in a different mood. I need to be little uh different. So I feel

• 30:23Speaker 01

  it's it's it is important to go through your body as well. It's it's uh it is connected. I I feel it's very difficult for me purely to control my mind. So I kind of use my physical uh uh you know, body aspect to to relax. Whether it's, you know, your spine or whether it's your muscles or whether what you what you put into your body. I mean, uh it is the most typical thing to say that, yes, you should work out and be fit, but it is scientifically true. Can't deny that. So people need to know that that it's it's more to do with just fitness. Uh it it it if you if you do it long enough, I think you'll see the magic that happens if

• 31:06Speaker 01

  you know, your body uh is holding lesser amount of weight or or water or or if you just look good and you see yourself in the mirror and you feel happy uh there and then. So uh I think yeah, breathing and I would say breathing and fitness would would some was something that that I I use as well. Uh put in different methods, but I really like your methods. I'm gonna steal that and try it in my next event.

• 31:31Jay Shetty?

  I agree with you. I agree with you with exercise. I think that's such an important uh message because we think that exercise, you do it because it's how you care how you look. But actually it's not. What you're saying is so true that exercise is about how you feel. And and we all feel better when we exercise. It's not about looking a certain way or having a certain body or having a it's not about that. It's about really feeling different and exercise boosts your mood. And the four habits that I recommend everyone does every day come in the form of the acronym T I M E. And and I'm mentioning this because Sid has mentioned two of them.

• 32:11Jay Shetty?

  So the T is thankfulness. So first is gratitude. Like if you have gratitude in your life, which is a mental activity, you you will feel amazing. If you thank people, if you acknowledge people, if you recognize people. I is for inspiration. We have to, you know, we have to feed ourselves with inspiration every day. It can be a book, a podcast, a conversation, a prayer, a quote, a paragraph from a book you love. It can be anything. M is for meditation and E is for exercise. So I'm so glad you mentioned exercise because exercise is chemically shown to boost your mood. And so again, please don't think of exercise, anyone who's watching and listening, as a as a pursuit for a different type of body. That's not the only reason. The reason for exercise is to feel different.

• 32:57Speaker 01

  Again, when when I saw this about a decade ago, when I read somewhere through a friend of mine to just have a gratitude journal,

• 33:07Speaker 01

  to pinpoint things that you're grateful for. And that worked really well for me in my early years of being, you know, an actor. Even today I do it. I do it less lesser now. I would say I have to go back. But I would say I would thank for the simplest and the smallest thing like, you know, thank you for a great workout today. Thank you for this amazing. You know, I'm really thankful like today would be I'm I'm really happy that I'm speaking to you on on this platform. So and I feel and I used to do it before sleeping.

• 33:38Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 33:38Speaker 01

  So right at that time and that. That used to really, uh, you know, ground me uh before I go into into sleep and and kind of take all that positivity of the day and and have better sleep. Uh, which again, I feel is is of people when you're anxious. People, I I I've heard of people who who find it very difficult to sleep long hours. And I've experienced it myself, uh, when I'm extremely anxious about one particular event or uh or or a day, um, I would have broken sleep. And I think uh, I think that's something that is detrimental to your next day. It it doesn't let you mentally, physically be ready for what you really want to be.

• 34:22Speaker 01

  It's actually adversely affecting the your efficiency the next day if you're uh or the next week or whatever you're looking forward to. Um, so I, uh, yeah, actually, I would say this gratitude uh or writing down or penning it down as to the things you're thankful for would really help you feel happy before sleeping and and feel more relaxed, which is what we need.

• 34:45Jay Shetty?

  I love this man. Everyone, I'm so grateful and thankful on that note to Sid for staying up late, even though he says it's not late. Sleeping early is also very good for mental health, so that's definitely an important one.

• 34:58Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 34:59Jay Shetty?

  Uh, but yeah, but I want to thank you, Sid, for for doing this, for taking part in this festival, for using your platform to spread a powerful and important message. Hearing it from you, so many people will feel inspired and empowered to make a change in their lives. The journey you've been on, the incredible success that you've had, but your honesty and openness, you stay so grounded. And I said this to you when we were on the phone the other day, you're a super humble and and approachable guy, and I think that that's what is your unique quality. And I can't wait to hang out with you when I get to Mumbai, man. So, uh, I'm looking forward to it.

• 35:33Speaker 01

  You're the first person that I've met in this lockdown virtually, and I haven't met you in person, so uh I'm I'm looking forward to that. And again, thank you so much, and you you keep inspiring us with your words. And you are using social media, you know, for the positivity that it's supposed to be like. I remember I sent you that text of this is of this simple vendor that got help in New Delhi, uh, which became which started trending here, uh, you know, uh, a small little dhaba. Uh, and it was amazing to see how you can use social media to in a positive. And help somebody make make an honest living. Um, um, you know, when that gentleman, one particular man put this old couples

• 36:18Speaker 01

  you uh of one particular location in in Delhi. And he's like, you know, no one's buying my food. I have a small stall and he was crying. He was in tears and and that kind of trended. And after that, I have a family in Delhi who are send as well. And and they were like hundreds of people, hundreds of people outside trying to buy food. And and he had so much work and and the best thing I liked about that guy is when when somebody but like tried to give him extra money, he says, he says, no, I say, what do you want to eat? Just just I'm just gonna uh, you know, charge you for whatever you take. I'm just not gonna take money. So I felt that is thing in a country like India. And and I would say, um, and a thought came up, which I would wanna tell everyone that, you know,

• 37:03Speaker 01

  if we could, as a society in India, in any city, help one such vendor to earn an honest living by just making that trend, um, it would really do so much good uh in everyone's life, like one person like that per week, uh, you know, would be amazing because you know, I mean, you've been in India, you know, need so much help. So, um, yeah, now they're telling people, you talk about something, try to help somebody in the real world, yeah, come on. So, uh, hopefully we will make a difference.

• 37:35Jay Shetty?

  I love it. Thank you, Sid, man. You're amazing. I love that message and everyone should go and check out that video. It's uh, it's incredible to see the impact of social media. And Sid, we're gonna do a lot more of this, so I'm excited, man. I'm really, really excited.

• 37:49Speaker 01

  Thank you so much for your lovely words and keep it.

• 37:51Jay Shetty?

  Thank you so much. Thank you, man. Appreciate you.

• 37:54Speaker 01

  Do well.

• 37:57Jay Shetty?

  Hey, everyone. Thank you so much for listening to this conversation with Sid today. I really hope it gave you some ideas about how to take little moments to prioritize your mental health despite the weight of cultural stigma. Make sure you tag me and Sid on Instagram with your thoughts about his strategies for building a personal mental health practice. I thank you so much for being part of the On Purpose Community. Thank you so much. Have a wonderful weekend and don't forget to look out for episodes next Monday and next Friday.

• 38:30Jay Shetty?

  You