Hailey Bieber (FBF)

Hailey Bieber joins Call Her Daddy. For the first time ever, Hailey opens up about the public-generated controversy between her and her husband's ex. Hailey makes it clear she wants to discuss this one time and one time only…on Call Her Daddy.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Alex Cooper?

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• 1:28Alex Cooper?

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• 3:14Alex Cooper?

  What is up Daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy.

• 3:25Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 3:26Speaker 01

  Hello.

• 3:28Alex Cooper?

  Hailey Bieber, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

• 3:30Speaker 01

  Hi.

• 3:31Alex Cooper?

  How did you pick your outfit for today?

• 3:33Speaker 01

  I just wanted to feel comfortable and I feel like I just wanted to wear like jeans and a t-shirt.

• 3:40Alex Cooper?

  Be cozy.

• 3:41Speaker 01

  But like still cute.

• 3:44Speaker 01

  Still like a little.

• 3:45Alex Cooper?

  I feel like that's your entire vibe is always being comfortable looking. And then having like a tinge of like super like sexy and cute, but like still like you can.

• 3:56Speaker 01

  I can't stand being uncomfortable. I like, I'll do it for a certain amount of.

• 4:02Alex Cooper?

  Time.

• 4:02Speaker 01

  Sorry, amount of time.

• 4:04Alex Cooper?

  She's burping.

• 4:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, like I'm throwing up.

• 4:07Alex Cooper?

  The first person to throw up on Call Her Daddy is.

• 4:11Speaker 01

  Me, um, sorry. I, when I say I will do it for a certain amount of time, I mean, like if I have to like, go be on a carpet for a second and it's just like the look is the look and there's like something like stabbing me in the side. Like I'll endure it for a second or a few hours and then.

• 4:26Alex Cooper?

  I need to tell you, one time I went to a fitting and this woman was like, oh my God, try on these heels. And I was like, whoa, like those look aggressive and like they're the Hailey Bieber heels, like they're the classic one she always wears.

• 4:38Speaker 01

  Were they Jimmy Choo?

• 4:39Alex Cooper?

  I don't even know. Hailey, I don't know. I was like, oh, okay. I guess I'll try them off. Hailey wears them. Hailey, they were the most uncomfortable shoe I've ever put on in my life. I was like, what the fuck? How does she walk in these? It's the one, you know what I'm talking about?

• 4:51Speaker 01

  The big platform?

• 4:52Alex Cooper?

  Yes, but it's the, it's basically just the bottom of a shoe and then the string goes around your fucking ankle.

• 4:57Speaker 01

  I used to be a ballet dancer and like dance on point.

• 5:00Alex Cooper?

  Flex on us.

• 5:00Speaker 01

  So I think that the reason that really high heels don't bother me is because my foot is just like used to being like, it doesn't care.

• 5:09Alex Cooper?

  It's a gift because when I tell you I couldn't walk after I wore those, I was like, okay, Hailey, we're not on the same playing field. She clearly knows what she's doing. If you could trade closets or a sense of style with any of your friends, who would it be?

• 5:26Speaker 01

  It's so interesting because I feel like me and all of my friends have such different style. That I think I'm trying to think of who I feel the most similar to. I think Kylie has a very amazing and fun closet. That is just, I mean, who wouldn't want to share like trade closets with her?

• 5:42Alex Cooper?

  I agree.

• 5:42Speaker 01

  I'll trade houses with her too, if she ever wants.

• 5:45Alex Cooper?

  I'm like, you know what? I think I agree. I was like, yeah, I think I'd take Kylie's closet.

• 5:48Speaker 01

  We're also the same shoe size.

• 5:50Alex Cooper?

  What shoe size are you?

• 5:51Speaker 01

  An eight.

• 5:53Alex Cooper?

  I don't wanna overstep, but so am I. So if you have any hand me down.

• 5:58Speaker 01

  So if we wanna exchange shoes, we can do that.

• 6:02Alex Cooper?

  Just not your heels.

• 6:03Speaker 01

  Though it's, I think it's so funny that I'm like thinking about, I'm like, who can I actually like wear all their stuff? I'm like, well, she's an eight and I'm an eight.

• 6:09Alex Cooper?

  Right. I'm like, it's actually just a game. Like, but you're like, no, a logistically.

• 6:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm such a logistical thinker. I'm like, but if I was to trade with this person and she's a size nine and a half, then I can't have any of this. She's like, Haley, this is not real.

• 6:21Alex Cooper?

  It's fantasy. It's a game. We can pretend. Like, okay, but I love it. Okay. So Kylie, hit us up. Uh, we're ready to take over your closet.

• 6:44Alex Cooper?

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• 10:10Alex Cooper?

  You came in here, there's paparazzi taking photos of you, it's a lot. How do you handle the pressure of being photographed for the world to see almost every single time you step outside?

• 10:22Speaker 01

  It's really funny because I was thinking about this coming over here and they were like following me in the car, which is like, it happens all the time. Whatever, like, I know that's gonna happen if I'm in LA. There's not very many ways to avoid it. They just sit at the bottom of like my street, so it is what it is. But I was driving and like sometimes when there's paparazzi following me, I have a flash in my head of like getting out with a baseball bat and literally destroying their car. Like, I literally sometimes it like it makes me just so annoyed that I'm like, one of these days, I swear to God, I'm gonna get out of the car with a fucking baseball bat and I'm going to like destroy their... This is a hypothetical situation, by the way.

• 11:04Alex Cooper?

  She's being hypothetical.

• 11:05Speaker 01

  I just like, and driving over here, I was like, I literally like, that's my urge right now. And I'm like, at the same time, do I want to give anybody the power to like disturb my energy like that? No, but it's just like a feeling of, it's just annoying. It's the feeling of like hitting a breaking point of like, I just, I can't stand it anymore. And some days are totally fine though, and some I can avoid it and like I sometimes like get really lucky and like sneak different ways to like do it, but I think what I've come to terms with is like, that's gonna happen in LA. You know what I mean? This isn't the like middle of nowhere, like, you know, where there's like actual privacy. It's like the land of where everything happens.

• 11:50Speaker 01

  And there's tons of people here. It's also like, I'm not the only person that deals with this. It's like so many people deal with it and it comes with the territory and it's not like, I hate when people are like, "Well, you asked for this," because it's like, I don't think that's like a real thing to say. I didn't ask for grown men to follow me around with cameras, but I do understand that it comes with the territory.

• 12:14Alex Cooper?

  It's hard to make friends when you're in a position where you don't know people's intentions, right? Do you have a hard time trusting people?

• 12:24Speaker 01

  Sometimes, sometimes. I feel like...

• 12:29Speaker 01

  I'm the type of person and I've always been this way where I'm like I trust people until they prove me wrong. Which is like I guess sometimes can be a dangerous way to be. I'm a people person, like I love to connect with people. I love meeting new people. I sometimes have a hard time with like becoming like friends with someone or close to someone, but like I love being cool with people and like being social and meaning people and knowing their story and like where are they from? I think that I have a lot of my friends that I'm very close to are people I've been close to for a long time. Some newer friends, some not, but I just think.

• 13:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think there's sometimes that that aspect of like the distrust of like, I don't know what you wanna be around for.

• 13:14Alex Cooper?

  Have you ever had someone take advantage of you and your situation and like kinda love that it's like, oh, I get this lifestyle around her and like, how do you deal with that?

• 13:27Speaker 01

  My personality is very like I don't do well with confrontation. I don't like to like confront awkward situations. Trying to work on it. I'm trying to be better at that, but I I never want to like I've always been the type of person where like I don't wanna like end things on like a sour note with a person because especially if there's someone like in an industry where I have to see them or like if we're gonna be out somewhere and I gotta see you like, I don't wanna walk into a room and feel like I have beef with someone like that stresses me out big time crazy.

• 14:01Alex Cooper?

  Even if it's so you can stick up for yourself? We're working on that today.

• 14:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, even if it, tha- that's something I struggle with, even if it's for me sticking up with myself, I just wanna like cuz I think there's a way to stick up for yourself and still be cordial. I've had situations and or a situation where I feel like there was like a lot of stuff I found out about the situation. And then I knew if I confronted the person, they were just not gonna own up to any of it. So it's like, what's the point? If I'm gonna go to you and be like, here's what I found out. I know that it's true. I've seen the proof. I've too many people have said something to me about it and they're just gonna be like I can't believe you would believe that about me. Like, that's just not true. Why am I gonna waste my breath with somebody who's just not even going, who's not in the place in their life or like

• 14:49Speaker 01

  the type of person that is going to even receive the confrontation at all? Because I can do confrontation if it's in. A calm, appropriate, I'm not a yeller, like, I'm not gonna like freak out and like, I'll get fired up when it's something that I'm really like passionate about or defensive about, because like I've had that happen to me before. But I still always wanna end it on like a, how did we move forward from here? Not like, and, and sometimes, the reality I've had to face is that like, sometimes that's not possible, like sometimes you just can't be around that person or be friends with that person and like, it is what it is.

• 15:29Alex Cooper?

  Totally.

• 15:30Speaker 01

  You just have to move on.

• 15:31Alex Cooper?

  So many people in the world are fascinated by you and fascinated by your life and I think the public can kinda feel that from you of like, you don't like confrontation, you rarely will speak out on things if there's drama, which I think so many people do respect you for. But how much does that then weigh on you of things piling up on you that it's like, when is gonna be a good moment for Haley to just kinda like speak her truth? And you've done it a couple of times on the internet, which I think people were like, oh fuck yes, like Haley, let's go, which we're gonna get into.

• 16:00Speaker 01

  Well, I think, based on what you're saying, like, one of the, I think, issues with that, is that then you get stuck having to explain yourself for every little thing. And I had to get over that because I was in a place at, at one point where I felt like, I wanted to like, explain the narrative and explain myself and like, that's also exhausting. So if it's like every single time I do an interview or if I say something and there's gonna be something that people are like, why would she say that? Or like, she's wrong for saying that, or that doesn't make sense. You said marriage is hard work, and then I said that and everybody was like, that's not a good sign if you think that it's like hard, like, it's like no matter

• 16:40Speaker 01

  what I say, I'm always gonna have to be explaining myself to people, which is why I actually hate doing interviews. Where they're like, it's like a blurb of a longer thing that I said, that's just so out of context, and then I'm gonna feel like, I'm explaining myself.

• 16:56Alex Cooper?

  What marriage doesn't have ups and downs and in a good way you get through shit?

• 16:59Speaker 01

  But also what I meant when I said hard work is just like there's compromise, there's sacrifice. I feel that way in most relationships in my life, even friendships, even work relationships like they can be tough sometimes. I didn't mean it just overall. Yeah, like it's hard and it sucks. Like, that's not what I'm saying at all. It's literally the best thing ever. The whole sentence of what I said was like he's my best friend. I love coming home to him, but like, yeah, it takes work because I'm twenty five years old and I have a life and I have a career and I have my own friends. So trying to balance making my

• 17:37Speaker 01

  wants and needs and hopes and dreams work while meshing my life with another human who has his hopes and dreams and career and like, we're busy people and we want to be in a marriage, so we're making it work and sometimes it's hard. How is that not make sense?

• 17:54Alex Cooper?

  People don't want it to make sense. People really want that statement to be like the marriage is ending, like here we go.

• 18:02Speaker 01

  Oh, but people have been saying that since the beginning. So that's why at this point I'm not as, I was more sensitive about it. I don't really feel sensitive about it now because I'm just like no matter what I say, it's like the marriage is ending. Like every single time I say something

• 18:18Alex Cooper?

  like here we go.

• 18:18Speaker 01

  about my own relationship. It's like there's something wrong with it. So it's like I just don't care. People have been saying this now for four years.

• 18:26Alex Cooper?

  So let's get into it. You are married.

• 18:29Speaker 01

  I start sticking my feet into the couch.

• 18:30Alex Cooper?

  You're like, oh fuck, here you go, Alex, just go. She's literally burrowing in.

• 18:34Speaker 01

  Look at my hands.

• 18:35Alex Cooper?

  Oh my god, Haley. Okay, you married one of the most famous people on the planet, Justin Bieber. What are the best parts about being married to Justin?

• 18:45Speaker 01

  Well, I think the best parts are that he's my best friend and there's nothing better than being with the person that makes you smile the most, makes you laugh the most. Like, he's just literally the best human to me, ever, and

• 19:02Speaker 01

  I think that he's a person who has been through a lot and shouldn't have gotten gotten to the other side of a lot of what he's been through and he has and he's overcome so many different things in his life for being famous so young and the fact that he's as normal as he is. He's literally just to me, I feel like he's a very like normal, regular guy. I guarantee you someone takes this and they like fucking chop it up and make it sound like I said something different. Um, but I've known him for a very long time. We were friends for a long time before anything else and like, I just love him.

• 19:39Alex Cooper?

  You can see it with the two of you, even though we only see stuff. I mean, I remember when I saw you guys on the beach in Santa Barbara. And I grew up, I watched Justin Bieber. I was like, oh, like I didn't know what to expect. Like I was definitely intimidated by you guys because we'd only met once. I was like, wait, why are they so normal? Justin's like, hey, what's up? Gives me a hug. You're like, what are you guys doing on your trip? I'm like, you guys are so so normal for what how crazy your life is and it's unfortunate that people don't get to see that side of you guys.

• 20:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's also like, he just has the kindest, sweetest, most like gentle heart and soul to me. And I've always thought that about him. Obviously, he's gone through phases in his life where

• 20:20Speaker 01

  he was being, you know, a little out there. I didn't want to say like fuck boy because it's like not, yeah, but like yes and no. I don't know. I don't know how to describe it, but like he was just in a different space in his life and was like, I think ultimately when people are like acting out, it's just because they're hurting. And he was just in a space in his life. I mean, we're all hurting every single day, but I think sometimes we go through a season where it's like we're hurting a lot more, we're going through a lot more. So we're just a different version of ourself. That's not really who we are. Um, but like to me, he's just the best, the most fun, like I have the most fun with him. He understands me more than anybody ever has in my whole life. And I think that goes both ways and he's just my guy.

• 21:05Alex Cooper?

  How has being married to someone with that level of fame impacted your identity?

• 21:15Speaker 01

  Where do I start? Um, well, I think even for starters, this even me talking about him or talking about our relationship, people will take that and be like, all she ever talks about is her relationship with him. And even something like that, I'm just like, well, we are married and he's a huge part of my life and obviously people are very interested in like our life together and he is a humongous public figure. So it's like, it's a little bit unavoidable at times and I do try to, you know, have my own thing, but it's like our lives are completely messed together. So I don't know.

• 21:58Speaker 01

  I'm like, what do you want from me? Like, of course, people are going to ask me about it. They're going to ask him about it like, I just don't see how that's like avoidable. And sometimes it is because it's just not necessary to talk about, but like, even in a situation like this, yeah, we're married. I have his last name. Like, I don't know how I'm supposed to avoid like talking about my life. Like, that's my life.

• 22:21Alex Cooper?

  This person that you happen to be married to happens to also be one of the most famous people in the world.

• 22:28Speaker 01

  Nobody would be asking me about him if he was someone who had a different type of job or like, you know, a nine to five, like I just, the reality is that it is what it is.

• 22:40Alex Cooper?

  From your point of view, can you explain why the internet was so angry over your engagement to Justin?

• 22:50Speaker 01

  First of all, I think one thing is that we're both really young. That's, I think honestly, that's for starters, which I totally understand. When we got engaged, I was 21 and he was 24. Yeah, 24 and 21. I personally never thought I was going to get married that young. Like, I always thought I would be maybe getting married now and I'm 25 now and I still think I'm really young. I think the timing was obviously very rapid and very fast, which now being four years.

• 23:24Speaker 01

  Past that, looking back on it, I I totally get it. I'm like, yeah, that seemed really drastic and really crazy because but that was what we felt was a decision between the two of us and it felt correct for the two of us at the time and clearly we were right because here we are four years later. And I think just given

• 23:48Speaker 01

  the timeline of like where he was at before we got back together and what was going on and there was just a lot happening.

• 23:58Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 23:58Speaker 01

  Um, but I will say too, like, the only people that really know the truth of the situation and what the timeline really was and how it happened and how it went down are like me and him. Perception is a really tricky thing because when you're watching something from the outside, you can see it one way. When it may not really be the reality of what happened behind closed doors and that's a big challenge, I think of being somebody who is in the spotlight or being famous is that I know how we got to where we got, period. Like, that's I just know how it happened. I was there and I was living it every day. So

• 24:40Speaker 01

  there's just, yeah, there, there's a lot that I can understand why people were so like, what is going on? Like, this seems crazy.

• 24:49Alex Cooper?

  Your husband was in a very public relationship. They were kids. People were obsessed with the idea of them. People were confused on the timeline you're talking about of like,

• 25:02Alex Cooper?

  is she a homewrecker? So I guess my question is, Haley, were you ever with Justin romantically at the same time as her?

• 25:13Speaker 01

  No. Not, not one time. When him and I started hanging out, like, okay, let's just put it this way. When him and I ever started like hooking up or like anything of that sort, he was not ever in a relationship, ever, at any point. I would never, it's not my character to mess with someone's relationship. I would just never do that. I was raised better than that. I'm not interested in doing that and I never was. Um.

• 25:47Speaker 01

  I think that there are situations where you can still kind of have like back and forth with someone, but even that was not the situation. Like I can say period, point blank, I was never with him when he was in a relationship with anybody. That's the end of it. Um, and I had been involved with him since I was eighteen. The, the timeline also that I think sometimes is in question of like us getting together and getting engaged and him having been spending time with his ex before that. Um, this is so crazy. I've literally never talked about this ever.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  I understand again how it looks from the outside and there's a lot of perception there, but that was a situation where I, I know for a fact that

• 26:45Speaker 01

  it was the right thing for them to close that door. They were not in a relationship at that time, but of course there's a very long history there and it's not my relationship. It has nothing to do with me. So I respect that a lot, but I know that it closed a chapter and I think it was the best thing that could have happened for him to move on and be engaged and get married and like move on with, with his life in that way. And it's hard for me to talk about this because I don't want to talk on either one of their behalf. Again, because it was their relationship and I honestly respect that very deeply.

• 27:31Speaker 01

  But I just know what was going on when we got back together and I know what had to happen for that to come back together in a healthy way. Um, and I think it was the most healthy, mature decision that he could have made and I respect that as a woman, I would never want to get into a relationship with someone and be engaged to them and be getting married to them and think in the back of my mind, I wonder like if that was really like closed for you and like, and I know for a fact that the reason we were able to get back together was because it was very much completely closed and that is respectful to me.

• 28:14Alex Cooper?

  Let's talk about your experience with, there's been a lot of hate on the internet. I know you don't like to talk about this stuff, but you've never-

• 28:22Speaker 01

  It literally makes me so uncomfortable, but like-

• 28:24Alex Cooper?

  And I see that.

• 28:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, can't stop moving and I'm like crawling because I just feel like there's like a little bit of that like anxiety of like, people will probably take it the wrong way, or like, I just don't want to say something that is like being disrespectful, or like, bringing up something that can like stir up feelings for someone that, like, I know that we're just all so far moved on from like, any type of drama and I'm so happy for that. So like, I get nervous about talking about it because I'm like, I don't want to like stir anything up, or like, bring anything up that is going to be like a thing, or-

• 29:00Alex Cooper?

  And I get that. And I think the reason unfortunately is you guys aren't completely normal human beings. There is a complete world out there that is obsessed with all of you in different ways. And then there are people that hate you for who your husband dated back in his past. Take me through how your husband's past relationship still to this day affects what people are saying about you and to you on the internet.

• 29:31Speaker 01

  Well, I think like one of the things that we already just covered is that like the timeline of things and like, a lot of the hate and the perpetuation comes from like, oh, you stole him. And I guess maybe that just comes from like the fact that they wished that like he had ended up with someone else. And that's fine. Like you can wish that all you want, but that's just not the case.

• 29:51Alex Cooper?

  In December of 2020, a person posted a video encouraging haters to comment on your Instagram Live with nasty messages, announcing their allegiance for Justin's ex, and just like, fully harassing you on your live. What do you remember feeling on that Instagram Live when you saw those comments start popping up?

• 30:17Speaker 01

  I don't, well, I think there's like a certain like, almost like numbness that you get where you're just like, you just know what's gonna happen. It still happens to this day. This is, you're talking about something that was two years ago now, almost three. And it's something that's, if I was to go live on Instagram right now, it would still be happening, probably less, which is nice, but you just reach a point where you're just like, you have to just like ignore it and be like, okay.

• 30:43Alex Cooper?

  And didn't, Justin came publicly to your defense and like said something.

• 30:47Speaker 01

  Well, because I know that for him, that's hurtful. Because

• 30:53Speaker 01

  if we have moved on, why can't you? Like, that's kind of just the whole thought process of like, it's just hurtful. It's hurtful. It's bullying.

• 31:02Alex Cooper?

  It brings me back to the Rob Pattinson and Kristen Stewart, the Miley Cyrus and Liam Hemsworth. Their first love, right? And people are obsessed, I feel like, with this concept of like your first relationship. Somehow it's being pushed onto you as a get the fuck out of the way, like, let them get back. And you're like, if I wasn't even here, that's not gonna happen. So like, let us just live our lives. And now you go find your partner and you be happy, but it's, it's hard.

• 31:31Speaker 01

  I have had this conversation with a psychiatrist, with a therapist before, because I'm just like, I hate comparison. The whole point of this conversation is that we're talking about how my relationship is being compared to something else, or I'm being compared to another woman and, you know, get the fuck out of the way type of a thing. So where I'm at and the position I'm in, it's not, it's, it's not for everybody, but everybody has a purpose, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you're supposed to also be 25 and married and doing this, or I'm, I could have nothing figured out right now if, in an, in an alternate situation, in an alternate life.

• 32:09Alex Cooper?

  And I think, Hilly, he was America's bad boy sweetheart. And so I think there's ownership, people and fans feel for him.

• 32:16Speaker 01

  There totally is. And there's also this like, why is it you? There's so much of that that I feel like, why, why you? Though, like, and I'm like, I don't know.

• 32:26Alex Cooper?

  Right? Like, I just fell in love, he fell in love.

• 32:28Speaker 01

  We fell in love. And like, it, it, I, I think there was times where like, I'd be, I can confidently say, I I don't think we knew it was gonna be each other several times. So like, I can't say that, yes, at eighteen years old, I knew a hundred percent that that was my hus- I don't fucking, I didn't fucking know.

• 32:47Alex Cooper?

  You almost can't live up to the idea of who they think belongs with him.

• 32:50Speaker 01

  It would have, nobody would have, this is the thing, if it was any, if it was another person. It's like, because so many people have adored him for so long, nobody in their mind would have ever been like the person. And here's the thing too, is like, we're talking about a lot of like the negative side of it. There's also so many people who have made me feel so embraced and so encouraged and so loved and obviously, it has brought me a newfound audience and a newfound, um, you know.

• 33:28Speaker 01

  There, it it just, there, I wanna like, give credit also to the people who have like, supported and been so kind and like, so amazing and so great.

• 33:37Alex Cooper?

  I think everyone in the world almost knows that you have been bullied and harassed on the internet for almost four years now, like, that's a fact.

• 33:47Speaker 01

  But I do think it has changed. I I will give credit to say that I do think that four years ago, three years ago, two and a half years ago, because of how intense it was, it made me just very like, closed off and like, not wanna share any thing really of myself on the internet. I didn't really wanna be open. I would get a pit in my stomach doing interviews because I'm just like, I can't like, I, I'm, it's like, it's like being like traumatized, kind of like, you're too scared to like, speak or open yourself up or say the wrong thing and then you start to become, I had, I had moments where I, I felt like I was becoming very like,

• 34:29Speaker 01

  Not like, like a robot, but like I had to be very meticulous about what I was saying and very agreeable and can't say the wrong thing and like and it just starts to become this very like weird way of feeling. Where you feel like you just can't be expressive and you can't be yourself. And then that was where it came in with like wanting to do YouTube. And trying to have a space within this age of the internet and this age of social media where I can say. This is who I actually am. Take it or leave it, like me or not. This is who I am. And I felt like actually taking this step. To even though at times it was really uncomfortable for me, taking the step of being like.

• 35:14Speaker 01

  I'm proud of who I am and this is my personality. And like, this is gonna sound probably so corny, but like, to me, I've always felt like I was just like. A girl from fucking New York. Oh my god, this is gonna sound so cringe. I grew up, to me, I felt like very normal and like I am from a small town called Nyack that is like a suburb of New York City. And I woke up every day and like, I was homeschooled and like did ballet and like to me, I feel like. I've remained that same person. Of course, life has changed drastically, but like at the core, I feel like I.

• 35:53Speaker 01

  Am proud of who I am at the, at the core. Like I know I've always been that, that same person and I feel very rooted and grounded and I grew up very grounded and rooted and of course I. Came from a famous family. Everybody, you know, that's the reality of my life, can't change that either. Um. And I just feel like. Again, people didn't really like know me and know my story and know the kind of person I was like. People don't know what kind of friend I am. They don't know what kind of daughter I am. They don't know what kind of sister I am like. But I know.

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• 39:22Alex Cooper?

  You are starting to share more and even in the video that you made where you basically asked people to stop harassing you and you were like, "Leave me alone. Just leave me alone."

• 39:34Speaker 01

  I was like half joking, but I was being half serious. Like it was supposed to be something that was like light and funny, but I was also being serious because I like woke up one day and I was like, "I can't believe we're still doing this."

• 39:46Alex Cooper?

  Cause what, you like read a comment?

• 39:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, like I was, I, which again, like I have to stop myself from doing all the time because we know that the internet is a toxic hole and like comments are a toxic hole. But I was just like curious about something and then I'm like reading, I'm like, "Are we still talking about this? Like we're getting to, this has been, it's been years now, like four years we've been together. Like, come on."

• 40:10Alex Cooper?

  Let it go.

• 40:11Speaker 01

  Let's all evolve together. Let's hold hands and, and really like,

• 40:18Speaker 01

  okay, we're done. Like that's how I wanted to, that's how I felt in that moment. I was like, "Are we serious that this is what we're still doing? Like, we're still gonna harass me about this, this shit?" There is so much that I could have said. There was so much that I, at times, was like this close to saying and I just felt like,

• 40:46Speaker 01

  There's

• 40:48Speaker 01

  so, there's so many things that were happening where it's also like

• 40:54Speaker 01

  there's a time and a place and there's also a time and a place to

• 41:00Speaker 01

  let other people express what they need to express and like go through their feelings and emotions and like I just felt like there were certain times if I was going to say something, it was going to make things way worse and not be beneficial. Again, it was gonna be my word against someone else's against a bunch of other people and it would just not be beneficial and I've struggled with that for, I I had struggled with that for a long time. Like I would talk to my therapist and be like, but it's it's not fair that people think that this is what happened when this is really what happened. And then there you get into a cycle of like, again,

• 41:40Speaker 01

  feeling the need to explain yourself. And for me, it's not even about explaining myself. It's about people knowing the truth. Because there's a truth. There is actually the truth of something that happened and there's the truth of what didn't happen. So I think for me, when people, you know, make up stories about me online, I'm just like, but that's not what happened. That's not the truth.

• 42:01Alex Cooper?

  Is the crux of it the homewrecker thing? Like, is that what really bothers you?

• 42:06Speaker 01

  I think there's a lot of timing and timeline stuff that like just wasn't true and

• 42:12Speaker 01

  that's also just the internet making up their stories and like taking little bits and pieces of something they're looking at from the outside and there and by the way, it's not even, it's so many different things. The internet can make up, they can literally sit here and say that I threw up on you.

• 42:28Alex Cooper?

  Which she did.

• 42:29Speaker 01

  But that's not, and you can sit there and say Haley threw up on me. It was really crazy. And then I would read that on TMZ and I'd be like, that did not happen. Do you know what I'm saying? There's just stuff that happens all the time that I'm like, hello?

• 42:42Alex Cooper?

  Can you explain what happened when you were taking photos on the red carpet with your husband at the Met Gala in 2021?

• 42:51Speaker 01

  Oh, and people were screaming? So. Yes, I could hear everyone screaming. And. Again, I think there's a certain part of you that has a numbness of just like. I was like really surprised. I could kind of hear it, but I didn't know if that's what was really going on until I saw the video after. The whole thing of everybody being like, oh, he's trying to tell her not to cry. Um, that was not true. It wasn't making me cry. Um, although it's a very disrespectful thing to do. Towards anybody. I felt like I had something in my eye. That was, see, that's just what goes to show you how. Out of context, things can be seen.

• 43:34Speaker 01

  When he's like trying to help me, I'm like, I feel like there's something in my eye. Do you see something in my eye? And I'm going like this and he's like, no, no, no, you're good.

• 43:41Alex Cooper?

  And as this is happening, everyone's chanting, I don't, was it their, was it, I don't even know if it was their relationship name or just her name. But they were chanting at you. So then you take the sunglasses.

• 43:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:52Alex Cooper?

  And everyone thought you were.

• 43:53Speaker 01

  Were just part of my look. They were just part of my look. I knew I was gonna wear the sunglasses regardless on the carpet for some photos and then some without. Um, but yeah, I did hear people yelling. I, it wasn't making me almost cry. Um, I think seeing the video back after. Made me like, damn, like that sucks that. That's the energy people are. Like putting out into like that you would even spend your time.

• 44:20Alex Cooper?

  Camping out.

• 44:21Speaker 01

  Standing outside and doing that. I just felt like it was, it was disrespectful. To me, to my relationship, it just was period, the end. But I think I've endured so much. Disrespect. And I still do to this day that there was like a part of me that was just like. Another day. Another negative slay.

• 44:44Alex Cooper?

  It's like so depressing.

• 44:46Speaker 01

  I know.

• 44:47Alex Cooper?

  That?

• 44:48Speaker 01

  I know.

• 44:48Alex Cooper?

  That's like a very public example, I feel like of you having to go through that. Is there anything that comes to mind that was supposed to be a happy moment for you, for you and Justin, whatever, and it was ruined by harassment or bullying or this concept of his past?

• 45:05Speaker 01

  They've never ruined anything for me. They've never, they've never, they're not ruining my life, they're not ruining my happiness. And that, I think, is really the win of the whole thing. You're actually not taking anything away from me. So that's what I just keep stepping forward with. It's like, you can't take this away from me. You cannot take away my happiness, my relationship, um, my business, my career. Like, you just, you can't. You can try and you can be mad about it, but it doesn't change anything, is my point.

• 45:40Alex Cooper?

  Haley, what do you think the internet wants you to do?

• 45:44Speaker 01

  I don't know. I legit don't know.

• 45:48Alex Cooper?

  Like, if you were trying to get under it, like?

• 45:51Speaker 01

  I'm like, sometimes I joke around, I'm like, would they be happy if I, like, just moved away and, like, locked myself in a house and just like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know what the goal is. That's what's so funny is I'm just like, I don't try to understand, like, what is the goal?

• 46:04Alex Cooper?

  I think I would say it's probably the-

• 46:06Speaker 01

  A lot of the time, it's atten- I think it's attention. I think a lot of people, sometimes they do things and they say things in hopes to get a response out of you and to get a rise. And I've seen it happen with a lot of other people, too. Like, you're ugly, and then, like, you respond and you're like, I wish you the best. Like, I'm sorry you feel that way. And they're like, oh, my god, queen, I'm sorry, I actually love you, I was just being silly.

• 46:27Alex Cooper?

  You're like, that was-

• 46:28Speaker 01

  That wasn't funny.

• 46:29Alex Cooper?

  That wasn't funny at all. Calling me ugly, like, hmm, I guess it is kind of funny, because look at you, so fuck off.

• 46:35Speaker 01

  No, it's just like, what was your point? So then the point is, like, they get the attention that they thought. I think a lot of people think you'll not respond. And I've had that happen before, too. I didn't think you would see it, I'm sorry. And I'm like, so why are you saying it? Are you just bored? Like, I don't know.

• 46:49Alex Cooper?

  Can you try to explain?

• 46:54Alex Cooper?

  What does it feel like to have millions of people against your relationship? Like, what does that feel like on a day-to-day basis to you?

• 47:08Speaker 01

  I guess the biggest thing is like, I think it's sad. I think it's sad to be against someone's happiness. I think it's sad to not wish somebody well. Who am I supposed to be that would be acceptable? And then that means that I'm living for other people. And that means that I'm being a people pleaser, which I struggle with a lot. I do want people to like me. It does bother me when people just don't like me simply because of the rumors they've heard or the ideas they've come up with or things that they've seen. Like, it makes me sad. But I think I've had to come to the point and the realization of like,

• 47:48Speaker 01

  there is no way that you exist as a person, especially not as a person with a platform or in the public eye, where everybody loves you.

• 47:58Speaker 01

  And that's even in life in general, even if I was just in a normal situation. Not everybody's gonna like you. I'm just existing in front of a lot of people, so it's very easy to make up your, like, make decisions about how you feel about someone. Especially when there's so much access to look at them and see what they're doing and their social media and there's photos and there's just like life. So, I don't know, I think that sometimes it feels really heavy.

• 48:28Alex Cooper?

  What has been your lowest moment since all of this began?

• 48:33Speaker 01

  When things can get really dark and you can start having thoughts of like it not being worth it anymore or not wanting to be here anymore, which I have had before in the past and

• 48:49Speaker 01

  coming out of that, I think it's really important. A support system is like the most important thing, for sure.

• 48:57Alex Cooper?

  Maybe if you could talk about like the shame of having those feelings? Cause I bet a lot of people listening have had those thoughts and you're

• 49:07Alex Cooper?

  You're you're really alone with them and how to even like comprehend them is a is a process in itself.

• 49:15Speaker 01

  Sometimes I don't think we can comprehend them on our own because then you just throw yourself back into like a vicious cycle. I do think sometimes you need to express it and you need to go to someone who is gonna feel safe for you and support you in those thoughts. Not make you feel like you're crazy or that you're wrong for feeling dark and deep and heavy. There's also this like kind of weird twisted thing where I'm like.

• 49:42Speaker 01

  I don't get to feel that way because I have an amazing life and I'm so blessed and I'm so fortunate so like. It's almost like my my dialogue in my head feels like. Get the fuck over it like you don't get to feel that way because there are people in this world that are that are really struggling and you're not. Like that's sometimes how I feel like I talk to myself because I'm like. Get over it like you're fine. That kind of a thing and I've had to really try to be. More gentle with myself and like allow myself I'm somebody who like I hate crying in front of people. I don't do it like.

• 50:21Speaker 01

  Just don't like it and it's been since I was a little kid and I I've never understood. I mean, I've started to a little bit more in therapy and stuff, but I'm like. Why do I find it so embarrassing to cry in front of people when it's like everybody cries and it's such a vulnerable thing, but I'm like it feels so awkward and like cringe to me to cry. In front of people and it's always been such an uncomfortable thing for me so like. I have when I say I'm like shy and stuff like like I have been guarded. Emotionally in ways since I was like a little girl. So I think going through the process of also trying to understand why we have some of the tendencies we have since childhood like.

• 51:02Speaker 01

  What are the things that have happened to me when I was a little kid that have like brought me to the place of feeling like I have to have the self dialogue of like. You don't get to feel that way. Get the fuck over it. People are way worse off than you. Which is also like true. There are people who are going through a lot. Different struggles and different things, but it's the sense of not invalidating the way that I feel and I'm still working on that and I'm a hundred percent sure that I will be forever working on that. In December, going into the new year, I went to this place that was a like therapy intensive. I was there for seven days, no phone, literally therapy, like hours and hours

• 51:43Speaker 01

  a day. And that was something that we spoke about, about like tiptoeing around the way I feel or like not sticking up for myself because again, it kind of boils back to like, I've never enjoyed confrontation and I think a lot of it comes from my mom is a very sweet woman who is just like an angel, but she, as far as I can remember, she never liked confrontation and she, I feel like, didn't stick up for herself and at times still to this day, doesn't say what she wants and is like, I don't want to do this, I want to do that. Like she is a very just gentle, kind of reserved,

• 52:24Speaker 01

  pulled back woman. And there's so much about her that I like super respect, but I think it's just a pattern that I watched growing up of just, she was just very um, non-confrontational and there was a lot we didn't talk about, there were subjects we danced around. And as I've, as I've gotten older and had open conversations with my mom and she's expressed things that have happened to her in her life and things that she's gone through that I never knew about, it made me understand why she might be like that. But it's a, it's a pattern and it's like a learned behavior, I think a little bit that I am trying to move past and work past.

• 53:07Alex Cooper?

  To close out, kind of the chapter of what, everything we were discussing, what would you say to her fans? Like just coming from your heart, they're all sitting, listening to you, having an open mind, let's pretend they had it. What would you say to her fans?

• 53:23Speaker 01

  I think I would say, the first thing I would say is, you're not obligated to like me.

• 53:30Speaker 01

  But I believe that no matter what, there can always be mutual respect between people. And to me, that means

• 53:42Speaker 01

  Just you don't have to say anything. You don't have to like me, but you don't have to say anything either. Because behind this person that you're looking at on a screen is a person with a brain and a heart and emotions and issues that I face and so do you. And so does Alex and so does every single person in this room. So. You just, yeah, I think just mutual like respect and decency and and know that what you say can have impact and know that.

• 54:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, I I guess that's what I would say.

• 54:22Alex Cooper?

  God, I think I would have been a little nastier, but I love it from you.

• 54:25Speaker 01

  I mean, what I want to say would be. No, I'm just kidding. No, like that. I always made the joke of like. I think if I sat down with any of those people and they would walk away being like, you know what? I get it. Like, I respect her for that. I think we will al- always have more in common than we don't. That's like where everything comes from for me. So when I see people being nasty and like attacking me, I'm like, we probably like a lot of the same things.

• 54:53Alex Cooper?

  One of my last questions on this topic, because I'm just trying to get all of it, just like, let's wrap it in a bow.

• 54:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:00Alex Cooper?

  So you never have to talk about this again. You're like, yeah, I wish.

• 55:03Speaker 01

  At no, I literally never will. I'm like sweating.

• 55:06Alex Cooper?

  At any point, did Justin or any literally anyone ever ask his ex to help? Put an end to the harassment that her fans put you through?

• 55:19Speaker 01

  No.

• 55:21Speaker 01

  What I will say is that she has been in this industry much longer than I have. And maybe there's something that she knows about, like it wouldn't fix anything.

• 55:31Alex Cooper?

  I think like a nice little heart on your TikTok could end it all.

• 55:37Speaker 01

  The thing is too, is like, I think that like all everyone is just trying to like create separation, even though there's clearly like not always separation. I have no expectation. I would never expect someone to do that for me. Like, she doesn't owe me anything.

• 55:55Speaker 01

  I don't owe, neither of us owe anybody anything, except like, respect. I respect her a lot, and I think that like, there's just no expectations. If that was something that she felt was necessary, then that would be amazing. But I, I just, yeah, I respect her. There's no drama personally.

• 56:16Alex Cooper?

  Have you guys ever spoken?

• 56:17Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 56:18Alex Cooper?

  And then like, recently? No, I don't guess not recently, but like, after your marriage?

• 56:23Speaker 01

  Yes. So that's why I'm like, it's all respect, it's all love. That's also why I feel like, well, if everybody on our side knows what happened and we're good, and we could walk away from it with clarity and respect, then like, that's fine.

• 56:45Alex Cooper?

  As long as you know you're good, that's really all that matters.

• 56:48Speaker 01

  Which had brought me a lot of peace. And I'm like, hey, we know what happened. It is what it is. You're never gonna be able to like, correct every narrative. And there's gonna be new ones that come. It's never gonna end, and that's why I get to the point where I'm like, that's why I didn't speak about a lot of this stuff. Because I'm like, there'll be something new. There'll probably be something new from this interview.

• 57:11Alex Cooper?

  Oh, of course.

• 57:12Speaker 01

  Then I'm just like...

• 57:13Alex Cooper?

  You don't wanna know what's gonna come from this interview? Hailey Bieber, talking about sex.

• 57:19Speaker 01

  Great.

• 57:36Alex Cooper?

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• 1:00:34Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:00:35Alex Cooper?

  Welcome to Call Her Daddy. You're like, we've been sitting here for an hour.

• 1:00:38Speaker 01

  She's like, we're starting over. We're scrapping the whole thing.

• 1:00:40Alex Cooper?

  No. I need to give the fans what they want, right? We need to just give them a little, a little taste, right? Walk me through, I can't say this with straight face, walk me through, step by step, your sex with Justin Bieber.

• 1:00:58Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 1:01:00Alex Cooper?

  I was gonna try to do it so, like, so straight face and you were like, this girl's a fucking psycho. No, I was wondering, did anyone ever ask you about your sex life?

• 1:01:08Speaker 01

  No, actually.

• 1:01:10Alex Cooper?

  We're the first ones over here.

• 1:01:11Speaker 01

  I don't think so.

• 1:01:12Alex Cooper?

  Are you a morning sex or night sex people?

• 1:01:16Speaker 01

  More so night.

• 1:01:17Alex Cooper?

  Me too.

• 1:01:18Speaker 01

  But I do like morning too. It's so funny because I talk about this stuff and the reason I get weird about talking about it is because I'm like, my parents are gonna listen to this. There's something that feels so cringe.

• 1:01:29Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 1:01:29Speaker 01

  About your parents.

• 1:01:31Alex Cooper?

  Hopefully they don't make it this far.

• 1:01:32Speaker 01

  Your, your parents are probably really progressive and like.

• 1:01:35Alex Cooper?

  True, Hailey, but I grew up fully Catholic.

• 1:01:38Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:01:38Alex Cooper?

  So my parents, like, really, it, Call Her Daddy really, like, I went from zero to like, oh my god, what is she doing?

• 1:01:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:44Alex Cooper?

  But they get over it. This will, see, this is your introduction to like.

• 1:01:48Speaker 01

  I also have this theory that people, like, don't care about married people's sex.

• 1:01:53Alex Cooper?

  I'm sorry, you two are the hottest people in the world. Absolutely, we all care.

• 1:01:56Speaker 01

  I don't think anybody cares.

• 1:01:57Alex Cooper?

  Oh, I care. Okay, so you're night sex people, we love that. Okay, this is so graphic, but I'm saying the words.

• 1:02:03Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:02:03Alex Cooper?

  For the rest of your life, you have to pick one of the two.

• 1:02:06Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:02:06Alex Cooper?

  From Mr. Bieber, are you going to be fingered or eaten out for the rest of your life? You can only take one.

• 1:02:16Speaker 01

  Hmm, that's very hard. Because I feel like it's always a combination.

• 1:02:23Alex Cooper?

  Has anyone ever tried to have a threesome with you?

• 1:02:26Speaker 01

  Like, in our relationship? No.

• 1:02:29Alex Cooper?

  Would you be down?

• 1:02:30Speaker 01

  No. It's funny because.

• 1:02:35Speaker 01

  I feel like those ideas can be really fun and like sound really exciting. I think at the at the point that of inside of our it doesn't work for the two of us. We personally like that wouldn't work for this cuz cuz I think sometimes for some people it it does. So I've so I've heard some people are in like open relationships and like it works for a time, but I feel like in the end it always doesn't end up working. So I think the second you make the decision to do that there is never going back from that. And I just don't know that I would ever be willing to like we've worked very hard. We've worked very hard to like be in the space that we're in now and like

• 1:03:16Speaker 01

  trusting each other and there's like such a beautiful trust and bond that I just don't think that's something I would be comfortable with. Or him for that matter.

• 1:03:24Alex Cooper?

  Can you expand a little bit on how you guys built that trust and that bond?

• 1:03:28Speaker 01

  Um, he's really honest, like brutally honest, overly honest. I could ask him about any person, any past girl, anything and he'd be like, oh, yeah, like this, this, this and this. Like he doesn't have a problem being explicit. And I think that made me trust him a lot because I'm like, there's nothing I don't know.

• 1:03:45Alex Cooper?

  Cause you can tell when someone's being shady and then

• 1:03:48Speaker 01

  If they dance around you or like he's had people like DM him and he'll be like, oh, like show me the DMs like do you and he'll like be like, do you think that like this person's trying to be nice? Or you think this is weird? And I'm like, I think it's weird. No, it's like he knows he's just saying like do you think like this person is like genuinely cuz it'll come across like super friendly and I'm just like, there's just no reason.

• 1:04:09Alex Cooper?

  There's no reason you need to have a relationship. There's no, yeah, that's cute.

• 1:04:13Speaker 01

  But I'm also someone where like I really encourage female friendships cuz I think that you have to be able to have like healthy opposite sex relationships that are friendships. Um, or else you're like closing yourself off all the time and it's like

• 1:04:26Alex Cooper?

  But you're not like having Instagram models like walk around your house.

• 1:04:29Speaker 01

  No, of course. I'm just saying like, of course, there's boundaries with everything, but I'm just saying like don't be afraid to have girlfriends.

• 1:04:37Alex Cooper?

  Totally right cuz it's like if you can't, it's like, oh, my God, like

• 1:04:40Speaker 01

  If I could, it'd be like if I couldn't have friends that were guys, I think you control what the limitations are in any relationship and any friendship and any work relationship.

• 1:04:52Alex Cooper?

  Like you can have self restraint and yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:54Speaker 01

  For sure.

• 1:04:55Alex Cooper?

  Do you have people still in your DMs? You're like, I am just, I am just a married woman thriving.

• 1:05:01Speaker 01

  I don't have people hitting me up like in my DMs.

• 1:05:05Alex Cooper?

  I got you. Okay. Do you and Justin have the same favorite positions?

• 1:05:12Speaker 01

  I think so. It's not like I'm like, I strictly like this one thing and he strictly likes another thing.

• 1:05:17Alex Cooper?

  Can you give us like one or two or five?

• 1:05:23Speaker 01

  It's always different.

• 1:05:25Alex Cooper?

  Okay, yeah.

• 1:05:25Speaker 01

  It's always something different.

• 1:05:27Alex Cooper?

  You're, you're moving it around.

• 1:05:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, no, I, I mean, like, one day it might be one thing, one day it might be another thing.

• 1:05:34Alex Cooper?

  Oh, I actually didn't even mean that too. I, I was like, you're doing 10 positions in one night.

• 1:05:38Speaker 01

  She's like, he's flipping you upside down one second.

• 1:05:40Alex Cooper?

  So you guys have like, you guys are not set on one position. Like you guys have a couple go-tos.

• 1:05:45Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no.

• 1:05:46Alex Cooper?

  But I feel like with my boyfriend I have now, like our go-to, like three. I feel like every couple has those like go-tos.

• 1:05:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:54Alex Cooper?

  Do you want to give us one? And it can't be missionary.

• 1:05:56Speaker 01

  It's definitely not missionary. I really like doggy style.

• 1:06:03Alex Cooper?

  You heard it here. That was beautiful, Haley. What is the sexiest thing Justin does to turn you on?

• 1:06:13Speaker 01

  You know, it can be so many different things. It can be like a connection thing. It can be a physical thing. For me, kissing is a big deal. Like that's a, that's a big thing for me. It always has been, just like in my life before I was married. So I would say that is probably the most.

• 1:06:30Alex Cooper?

  What is the sexiest thing you do that turns him on? Or what's his thing that he always says? Like, oh God, like Haley, like he like gets him going?

• 1:06:38Speaker 01

  The connection point is very important to him of like, we could literally just be like laying down, talking before and like just having like a really fun conversation and like that is really. Important for him, yeah.

• 1:06:51Alex Cooper?

  Okay, I'm gonna tell you something that I think is super sexy about you that turns me on is voting.

• 1:06:59Speaker 01

  Yes. Voting is hot.

• 1:07:02Alex Cooper?

  Yes, voting is so sexy.

• 1:07:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:05Alex Cooper?

  So sexy.

• 1:07:06Speaker 01

  Justin can't vote here, but.

• 1:07:07Alex Cooper?

  Oh, well, he'll be, he'll be supportive of us both voting, okay?

• 1:07:11Speaker 01

  He's very.

• 1:07:12Alex Cooper?

  And there are so many people that listen to this show and this airs in September. We have a huge election in November and I just think it would be great to use the end of this episode and use this platform and our platforms to just emphasize why it's important to vote and just how much everyone needs to get out there. So why is voting in this year's election important to you, Haley?

• 1:07:35Speaker 01

  It's important to me because I think as everybody knows, we're in a very scary state in our country. Um, we as women are living through a very terrifying reality right now. Um, and I think what we've learned, what I took away in a big way from the overturn of Roe v. Wade was the people that we elect in our states, in our cities, in our counties, they are so important. Um, and that was something that I was like, shit, like this is really the reality, we gotta get on it.

• 1:08:14Speaker 01

  Um, I felt very passionate the last election about just, please get him out of there. Like that was like, it felt like legit, like life or death and it, and it was in so many ways. Um, and I still feel that even, even more now because you've seen, there's still so many terrible scary things happening within our country. But I do think there's a chance for like change and I always think there's an opportunity for change and there's an opportunity to, um, come together and stand up and make a difference.

• 1:08:49Alex Cooper?

  You've been open about the fact that people in your family have different political views than you. And I think that's probably the most relatable thing we'll talk about on the podcast today. And I think so many people can relate to that. How did you navigate that? Cause it can get heated.

• 1:09:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was tricky, um, especially very personally, like my, my dad, my parents, um.

• 1:09:11Speaker 01

  It just got to a point where I found that we couldn't discuss it, which I think is okay. Um, I believe what I believe. I am a fully formed woman now. Twenty-five, turning twenty-six. I know what I believe in and what I don't. Um, I know what I stand for and what I don't and obviously it's disappointing that the people that raised you could think so differently than you. And have such a different perception that sounds crazy and you're just like, how did I come from you then? I just don't get this. But it would, i- it just causes too much disturbance and turmoil and argumentative back and forth that it's just like,

• 1:09:55Speaker 01

  it just can't be talked about.

• 1:09:57Alex Cooper?

  You're not gonna change people.

• 1:09:58Speaker 01

  And it's funny because me and my sister have the same exact point of view, which is like nice because at least I'm like, at least I got you, like.

• 1:10:05Alex Cooper?

  At least, thank god.

• 1:10:06Speaker 01

  And then my mom, like she, I'll try to talk to her about something. She's like, I'm from Brazil. So I'm like, okay. My mom's from Brazil, by the way.

• 1:10:15Alex Cooper?

  Oh my god. No, I, I appreciate that. I think it's always good to just one, normalize. People are gonna have different views, but I do think regardless, like just get out and vote because it is so important this year specifically.

• 1:10:30Speaker 01

  For sure. And it's not something that I, even, you know, the last election, I was super vocal about it. I plan to do that every single time. Um, it's something that I'm passionate about for sure. So I appreciate you bringing it up.

• 1:10:44Alex Cooper?

  Haley Bieber, thank you so much for coming on Call Her Daddy. I really appreciate you opening up. You don't do a lot of long-form interviews, so I appreciate you trusting me and sitting down with me.

• 1:10:53Speaker 01

  Of course. Thank you. I think I had an expectation where I, I know coming on here with you, you're gonna go there. That's just the reality of the situation. I wouldn't have agreed to it if I didn't know that was the case here. I think there's a lot that I've avoided speaking on for a long time that it, it is my life, so I should be able to like. Say what I want about it. You go there in certain contexts where it's like I've not gone before and I think that that's like a personal challenge to myself that I want I wanted to like push myself to like you know it's okay to be like I was uncomfortable multiple times in this

• 1:11:31Speaker 01

  my feet are inside of the couch cuz I was like how many like protective body positions did I get into I folded like a pretzel

• 1:11:53Alex Cooper?

  What happens in New York, Haley?

• 1:11:56Speaker 01

  To be honest, I I really was always a very level-headed young person, but I definitely had my moment where like I went to New York, I started going out to the club like that's just what happens when I I I mean, I guess it's not just what happens. You move to New York, you're going to the club, but I I got introduced to like nightlife and going out and drinking and you know, I definitely had my moments of that that was like my time probably like eighteen to

• 1:12:28Speaker 01

  but I swear by the time I turned twenty-one, I was like, blech, I'm over drinking.

• 1:12:31Alex Cooper?

  Do you remember the first time you got drunk? Was it a disaster?

• 1:12:34Speaker 01

  Yes. The first time I got drunk, I was like, oh my god, this is so funny. I was sixteen? Yeah, I think I was sixteen and I used to be a dancer like I've I said before. Um, and I think we had like a recital and one of my friends who I danced with, she had like the best house for like sleepovers cuz she had like the dope basement. So we would go in the basement, shut the door, the parents would never come down, so we would take like all the alcohol and uh just get drunk in the basement.

• 1:13:07Alex Cooper?

  The two of you?

• 1:13:08Speaker 01

  No, it was like multiple girls, like all the girls from the our dance school. Um, and the first time I like really remember getting drunk, I didn't throw up, which is like surprising. That one time I didn't throw up. Thrown up multiple times from drinking. But. That one time I remember like crawling on the floor cuz I like could not walk like could not stand up straight and I was just mixing everything cuz I didn't know what to drink. So I. Can never if you made me smell. Siroc birthday cake vodka right now.

• 1:13:43Alex Cooper?

  Siroc?

• 1:13:44Speaker 01

  Svedka birthday cake. Pinnacle pinnacle.

• 1:13:47Alex Cooper?

  Pinnacle. And you would just vomit.

• 1:13:50Speaker 01

  If you made me smell that right now. I would. Proceed to fall into a dark hole like I would trigger me.

• 1:13:57Alex Cooper?

  That I feel like everyone has that.

• 1:13:58Speaker 01

  Drinking and then like mixing it with like a beer and like a Mike's Hard and like all this crazy like the fact that I didn't throw up is a miracle. But I remember waking up the next day and I was so hungover. And um I called my cousin who was uh like staying with us at the time who I was really close to. I am really close to and I was like hey she was older than me I was like can you pick me up? From. Her house I don't want my mom to like pick me up because I had moments with my mom where I'd like. Go to a party or something and I would have had like a couple sips of a drink and she would get in the car and she would smell my breath. So I'm like I can't have my mom pick me up right now like. She's gonna know. And my friends asked me to take all the empties.

• 1:14:40Speaker 01

  And find somewhere to throw them out because she didn't want her mom to find them so. My cousin comes to get me I take all the bags of empties we pull over into an Olive Garden parking lot and find a dumpster. Throw it in the dumpster and I'm like sitting in the car with her and I was like. I need you to take me to church like I have to go to youth group that was like where I thought I needed to be cuz I felt so.

• 1:15:02Alex Cooper?

  What?

• 1:15:03Speaker 01

  I just felt bad I felt like I did something so wrong like I got like wasted and I'm hungover I just felt like hell so I was like. I need.

• 1:15:11Alex Cooper?

  I need God.

• 1:15:11Speaker 01

  I need Jesus, like I need to go and that's like legit how I felt. I was like, I gotta go to like church. And then I remember I went to like youth group and I was so hung over at the youth group. That I was like, oh my God, I gotta go home. Like I can't be here right now. But that was like what my instinct was like, I gotta go.

• 1:15:29Alex Cooper?

  I gotta go to youth group after I get hammered for the first time in the basement. It's a classic.

• 1:15:33Speaker 01

  Classic.

• 1:15:34Alex Cooper?

  I feel like you are the sweetest angel and then there's.

• 1:15:37Speaker 01

  That's what's so funny about like me moving into New York City would be like Friday night. I was like in up and down, taking shots. And then I was like going to church on Saturday, which I think is like so fine. I don't see like a problem with that. It's just the juxtaposition is really funny.

• 1:15:49Alex Cooper?

  The fact that you just referenced up and down in New York, I think I've had the most disgusting,

• 1:15:54Speaker 01

  Disgusting.

• 1:15:54Alex Cooper?

  ratchet, amazing, awful nights of my life.

• 1:15:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:58Alex Cooper?

  In up and down, like ruin your life, but also like great night.

• 1:16:01Speaker 01

  Many, many a traumatizing moment and great moment in up and down.

• 1:16:06Alex Cooper?

  I had a couple of awful nights at Marquee, but like up and down specifically, you're like, God bless. Thank you. Oh, Marquee.

• 1:16:13Speaker 01

  What was the one on the roof? PhD?

• 1:16:15Alex Cooper?

  Oh, PhD. Haley, you're like a normal human going to the ratchet spots. I'm obsessed.

• 1:16:21Speaker 01

  From, I lived, that was where I was from. I lived there.

• 1:16:24Alex Cooper?

  Do you and Justin like go out and have fun still? Are you able to do that? Okay.

• 1:16:28Speaker 01

  We went out last night, um, to Delilah.

• 1:16:32Alex Cooper?

  Oh, that's.

• 1:16:32Speaker 01

  Which was fun.

• 1:16:33Alex Cooper?

  There you go.

• 1:16:34Speaker 01

  Um, yeah, I think definitely both of us do not turn up the way we used to, just simply because it's never worth the way you feel.

• 1:16:41Alex Cooper?

  Absolutely not.

• 1:16:42Speaker 01

  I feel like now I get hung over by accident. Like I wasn't trying to, it was just like that last glass of wine. You shouldn't have done it. I, it's hard for me. When I was eighteen to twenty, I felt like I was drinking four times my body weight and was fine.

• 1:16:58Alex Cooper?

  A full like water bottle of vodka would be in my system and I'd be like, I'm cruising through the night.

• 1:17:03Speaker 01

  I would wake up the next day, give me a bacon, egg and cheese and a blue Gatorade and I'm fine.

• 1:17:08Alex Cooper?

  Haley, did you like rip that for me? Because that is my order. Please and thank you. In New York, you go to a fucking bodega?

• 1:17:15Speaker 01

  Get a bagel and a blue ga- it had to be blue.

• 1:17:17Alex Cooper?

  Blue Gatorade, always.

• 1:17:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:17:19Alex Cooper?

  The only.

• 1:17:19Speaker 01

  Bacon, egg and cheese on a croissant, blue Gatorade.

• 1:17:22Alex Cooper?

  You're back. You're fine.

• 1:17:23Speaker 01

  Thriving, never been better.

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