The Best Thanksgiving Side Dish, Dry Ass Turkey & Is Halloween the New Christmas? | Heights Hotline

92%ers, it's time for another edition of the Heights Hotline! On today’s episode, Jason and Travis respond to your Holiday Hot Takes. We debate if Halloween has overtaken Christmas as the best holiday, try to figure out why we even eat turkey, and somehow we end up defending the honor of sweet potatoes. Call us at 929-399-7260 to be featured in the next installment of the Heights Hotline. We’ve got even more New Heights coming your way. Tune in Monday for our guest episode with Erin Andrews and Charissa Thompson! Watch and listen to new episodes of New Heights every Wednesday during the NFL season and follow us on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshow You can also listen to new episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. . . . Download the full podcast here: Wondery: https://wondery.app.link/s9hHTgtXpMb Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynw Check out New Heights on Prime Video: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FR2MJWYS?ref=blog Send something to the New Heights Mailbox. Don’t be weird though. C/O New Heights Productions 135 E OLIVE AVE, BURBANK, CA 91502 Shop all the New Heights merch at https://homage.com/newheights Support the show: GILLETTE: Visit https://Gillette.com/NFL https://gillette.com/NFL for more information! REESE’S OREO® CUPS: Grab REESE’S OREO Cups today, wherever candy is sold! KFC: This Thanksgiving, cluck turkey. Go for the better bird. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 1:16Travis Kelce?

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• 1:57Travis Kelce?

  You didn't, and that's, that'd be the kicker for me.

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  I love a water park.

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• 2:18Travis Kelce?

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• 2:29Speaker 04

  Halloween is actually a better holiday than Christmas.

• 2:32Speaker 02

  You're a fucking idiot, Thaddeus.

• 2:34Speaker 04

  Christmas is cool and all, but Halloween's the best.

• 2:37Speaker 02

  I'm trying to think like what world somebody would think Halloween is better. And the only thing that makes sense is that their parents gave them a Christmas.

• 2:43Travis Kelce?

  Don't you put that on Thaddeus's parents?

• 2:45Speaker 02

  I'm definitely putting that up that he's his parents. That's the only possible way Thaddeus thinks that is that his parents gave him a Christmas. If I'm just going to be honest, I'm kind of with that. Isn't this one? Apparently Brandon's parents gave him a Christmas as well.

• 3:00Travis Kelce?

  Welcome to this bonus episode of New Heights, a Wondry show, and we're your hosts. Travis Kelce is my big brother, Jason Kelce. Subscribe on YouTube, Wondry Plus, or wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one S. And Jason is now going to tell you what exactly you get in this bonus episode.

• 3:21Speaker 02

  That's right. Welcome to today's bonus episode. That's right. Maybe you're here because you stumbled across us on your phone or internet or whatever your device is. Maybe you're here to see Travis Kelce or listen to his voice. Just maybe you're here to listen to some holiday hot takes from some of the 92 percenters, call ins and other shenanigans about holidays and hot takes. All right, here we go.

• 3:48Speaker 02

  All right, we got a few options. The bold ones seem to be the ones that they prefer us talking about.

• 3:53Travis Kelce?

  I say you just go ahead and hit the bold ones.

• 3:55Speaker 02

  All righty, holiday, Halloween better than Christmas? I can already know this is not accurate.

• 4:00Speaker 04

  Hey, this is Thaddeus from Kansas City.

• 4:03Speaker 02

  Thaddeus, great name.

• 4:04Speaker 04

  My holiday hot take is that Halloween is actually a better holiday than Christmas.

• 4:10Speaker 02

  Fucking idiot, Thaddeus.

• 4:13Travis Kelce?

  You had us for Thaddeus and then you lost us.

• 4:15Speaker 04

  Just better all around vibes. You get to spook kids and play pranks and Christmas is cool and all, but Halloween's the best. All right. Take it easy.

• 4:27Speaker 02

  Take.

• 4:28Travis Kelce?

  I mean, he does share your love of scaring children.

• 4:31Speaker 02

  It's a very hot take. I love Halloween. It's great. I'm very on board with Halloween.

• 4:35Travis Kelce?

  You can spook kids in Christmas, too. That's the thing about spooking is that you can spook kids whenever.

• 4:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, Christmas is the greatest holiday on the planet. There's not even, there's not even something that compares to it.

• 4:45Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, I'm just, there's just nothing that gets like people happy like Christmas does.

• 4:53Speaker 02

  It moves the stock market. That's how like influential it is like consumer products. This is so ingrained into our culture and so like unanimously, I knew Jewish people that celebrated Christmas.

• 5:09Travis Kelce?

  Don't, don't say who they are because then they will be, they'll be frowned upon.

• 5:15Speaker 02

  I think it's pretty commonplace at this point. I think, I bet if you, it's, it's, it's, it's gone beyond religion at this point. It's like so ingrained in the American culture and it comes down to family, giving the holiday spirit, like all of it. Like it's just, it's a fantastic holiday and I love Halloween, but I mean, it couldn't sniff a fart of Christmas to be even close to it.

• 5:36Travis Kelce?

  Give you two weeks off on Halloween.

• 5:38Speaker 02

  That's right. That alone.

• 5:42Speaker 02

  It's remarkable. It's a hot take. It's a very bad take. All right, next one.

• 5:46Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, it's tough. Thaddeus, though.

• 5:48Speaker 02

  Great name.

• 5:48Travis Kelce?

  Great name.

• 5:49Speaker 02

  Horrible take on Christmas.

• 5:53Travis Kelce?

  This guy was getting cold for fucking presents every year.

• 5:56Speaker 02

  I just, the joy that Christmas gives you, just seeing the decorations, going to Christmas parties, the thanks, the joy of seeing another person open a present you give them, like what is this gonna be?

• 6:10Travis Kelce?

  It's underrated.

• 6:11Speaker 02

  Like, I just don't know that there's any, I'm trying to think in like what world somebody would think Halloween is better. And the only thing that makes sense is that their parents gave them a shitty Christmas. Like, I don't know what else.

• 6:21Travis Kelce?

  Don't you put that on Thaddeus's parents.

• 6:23Speaker 02

  I'm definitely putting that up Thaddeus's parents. That's the only possible way Thaddeus thinks that, is that his parents gave him a shitty Christmas.

• 6:30Travis Kelce?

  Uh, he's just got to see it clear. He's got, he's got candy vision. He's got spooky vision. He's just got to see it for what it is.

• 6:37Speaker 02

  But Halloween has, I mean, Christmas has candy too. Candy canes.

• 6:42Travis Kelce?

  You hate candy canes.

• 6:44Speaker 02

  I love candy canes.

• 6:45Travis Kelce?

  What?

• 6:46Speaker 02

  You don't like candy canes?

• 6:47Travis Kelce?

  Candy corn.

• 6:48Speaker 02

  Candy corn is shit. Yes, exactly. The candy that represents Halloween and the candy that represents Christmas is night and day better for Christmas.

• 6:58Travis Kelce?

  They don't, they don't make a Christmas Reese's.

• 7:01Speaker 02

  Yes, they do. It's a Christmas tree.

• 7:03Speaker 05

  Trees. Yeah, they make them. Yeah.

• 7:04Travis Kelce?

  But that's not a stop. It's the same.

• 7:07Speaker 02

  You put candy in the stocking. It's basically the same thing, but you don't have to walk to other strangers' houses. You just get them from your loved ones.

• 7:14Travis Kelce?

  Nice.

• 7:15Speaker 05

  Thaddeus, you're kind of right, though.

• 7:16Travis Kelce?

  Christmas candies, no.

• 7:18Speaker 05

  I'm kind of with Thaddeus. If I'm just going to be honest, I'm kind of with Thaddeus on this one.

• 7:22Speaker 02

  Apparently Brandon's parents gave him a shitty Christmas as well as.

• 7:25Speaker 05

  Oh, God.

• 7:26Speaker 02

  This is a failure. Anybody who thinks Halloween is better than Christmas, their parents have failed them.

• 7:32Speaker 05

  I had a great Christmas. I just, I've turned into a Halloween guy in my, in my old age. Uh, I don't know how that happened.

• 7:37Speaker 02

  Halloween's fine, but it's no, it doesn't hold a candle to Christmas.

• 7:41Travis Kelce?

  What were you? What were you this year, Brandon?

• 7:43Speaker 05

  Me? Oh, we did it one battle after another. I was Benicio del Toro. I was Sensei.

• 7:47Travis Kelce?

  Oh, that's right. I saw that.

• 7:49Speaker 05

  Lauren was in the Capri. Yeah. Great costume. The dog was Sean Penn from that movie. Great costume. Have you ever tried to put a wig on a dog on Christmas? See, that's a Halloween thing.

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• 8:02Travis Kelce?

  All right now, Jason, you've been retired for a full year. Uh, let's talk pre-game rituals. Do you miss them? Still have them?

• 8:09Speaker 02

  I kind of have one, I guess, for Monday Night Countdown. Like, I kind of, I go do the, uh, production meeting, then I kind of iron out what's happening in the rundown. Then I go to the makeup lady, then I go to the hair, and, uh, then I go on set.

• 8:24Travis Kelce?

  Just curious to see if you were putting that same game day energy into your, uh, new broadcasting routine. That's all.

• 8:30Speaker 02

  Well, first and foremost, it includes making sure that this beard is looking real nice, which is finally starting to show some of my grays again. After dying it, I'm getting those natural colors back. Thank you. Thanks so much. But yeah, I have some, some grooming individuals that make sure it's looking nice and tidy.

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• 9:09Travis Kelce?

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• 9:27Travis Kelce?

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• 10:02Travis Kelce?

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• 10:11Speaker 02

  Which one of us is Reese's and which one of us is Oreo?

• 10:13Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 10:14Speaker 02

  Are we talking about Oreo with peanut butter in the middle or Oreo with white in the middle?

• 10:17Travis Kelce?

  Just regular Oreo.

• 10:19Speaker 02

  I mean, I'm clearly Oreo. I'm a little bit darker.

• 10:25Travis Kelce?

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• 10:47Travis Kelce?

  When you get KFC, you can get it all. Just put it in that bucket.

• 10:50Speaker 02

  It's true. Thanksgiving is coming up and KFC is starting a little holiday debate. Turkey or chicken? Not much of a debate if you ask me.

• 10:57Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, let's be real. It's the, you need gravy to survive at bird. It's beige of all

• 11:03Speaker 02

  Let's be honest, is it really worth spending eight hours cooking a turkey when you could just get something better, especially if it just causes you to go through a drive through and get a bucket of it, maybe?

• 11:12Travis Kelce?

  How about KFC's extra crispy chicken, juicy, crispy, and always finger licking good, baby?

• 11:19Speaker 02

  Extra crispy does sound good.

• 11:21Travis Kelce?

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• 11:26Speaker 02

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• 11:34Travis Kelce?

  It's time to ditch the dry boring bird this holiday and order KFC instead. You can't go wrong with a bucket of chicken, a good game or movie, or just some good times with friends and family.

• 11:46Speaker 02

  Everybody's gonna love it. If you show up to a Thanksgiving meal with extra crispy chicken from KFC, people are gonna love you.

• 11:52Travis Kelce?

  Especially a bucket of it.

• 11:54Speaker 02

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• 12:03Speaker 06

  Hi, Mr. I would like to give an extreme hot take since it's the damn season and that is turkey is one of the worst dishes on Thanksgiving of all time.

• 12:11Speaker 02

  Hard agree.

• 12:12Speaker 06

  It's so dry and people who like it just go weird. Thank you.

• 12:16Speaker 02

  Listen, I'm fully, this is why I fry turkey. I, it's hard to eat turkey unless it's deep fried and like, you know, boiled in fat grease. We never had turkey. We agree. We purposely never had turkey. Mom would make pork chops or some other meat. I love everything else about, well, I take that back. I love most other things about Thanksgiving fair, right? I'm a big mashed potatoes guy. I'm a big corn guy. Kylie makes a badass green bean casserole. Fucking love that dish. Um, Mama Kelsey dinner rolls, like everything else about Thanksgiving is so fantastic.

• 12:50Speaker 02

  And then it gets kind of muddled down with, for the most part, the way most people make it, a dry ass bird that you gotta slather gravy and cranberry sauce on to redeem anything about it. I mean, just be honest. You gotta fry it.

• 13:04Travis Kelce?

  You gotta fry it or you gotta be in that thing nonstop injecting it with like.

• 13:09Speaker 02

  You gotta fry it or you gotta fucking spatchcock that sucker.

• 13:12Travis Kelce?

  There you go.

• 13:13Speaker 02

  Spatchcock it.

• 13:14Travis Kelce?

  Yeah. Or, or what you haven't tried yet is turducken. You gotta stuff that thing with the duck.

• 13:19Speaker 02

  You're right. I have not tried the turducken, but I'm very in on it. The premise of it sounds incredible. What, um?

• 13:26Travis Kelce?

  I'm out.

• 13:28Speaker 02

  What else was, oh, the other thing that I don't, um, pumpkin pie is okay, but I think it's also commonplace for a lot of people. Maybe I'm wrong on this. Apple pie around Thanksgiving. I'll go on this. Apple pie has gotta be the most overrated dessert on the fucking history of top shelf desserts.

• 13:44Travis Kelce?

  It's gotta be, there's gotta be a fuck ton of cinnamon in that thing. It's gotta be a fuck ton of cinnamon and butter. And I gotta fucking, that's gotta overpower the apple.

• 13:53Speaker 02

  I'm just not, apple pie just doesn't, I like ice cream. So like when you put it with ice cream, I'll do it.

• 13:59Travis Kelce?

  That's the thing.

• 13:59Speaker 02

  That's another thing. I am definitely more of a cake guy than a pie guy, although, um, Stephen Cookies down the shore, they make a mean blueberry pie. It is fucking incredible.

• 14:09Travis Kelce?

  See, blueberry pie, different type of pie.

• 14:11Speaker 02

  And this is, they do it weird to it. Like, isn't as like, I guess like jelloey, you know what I mean? Like, a lot of the pie is like a texture thing that I just don't really, warm fruit doesn't make me excited. I like cold fruit.

• 14:25Travis Kelce?

  Noted.

• 14:25Speaker 02

  I'm trying to think, there are pies that I like though. Pumpkin pie is not bad. Pumpkin pie is a.

• 14:30Travis Kelce?

  Key lime's the only one.

• 14:31Speaker 02

  Key lime, cold fruit. Key lime's a cold pie.

• 14:34Travis Kelce?

  Cold pie. Key lime pie is the closest thing to like cheesecake that I'll ever have.

• 14:38Speaker 02

  I feel like raspberries would be good in a pie. It's gotta have a little bit more like tartness for it to be good. Apples just don't bring that. Like note that really makes me enjoy it that much.

• 14:51Travis Kelce?

  I need something in the inside that doesn't just like, give me like a comp. You know what I mean? Like a, like a, like a comp. You know what I'm talking about?

• 15:00Speaker 02

  Come, I, I think it's C O M P T E is what you're thinking about.

• 15:04Travis Kelce?

  There it is. Yeah.

• 15:04Speaker 02

  But it's, is it compo? It's compo. C O M P O T, right?

• 15:09Travis Kelce?

  There you go.

• 15:12Travis Kelce?

  I think I know either way. I don't like that. That stuff I'm out on.

• 15:16Speaker 02

  I don't mind if it's cold. I just, there's something about the warmness of pie that it just out desserts. I don't like warm desserts.

• 15:21Travis Kelce?

  Were you ever, were you ever a, a, a apple?

• 15:24Speaker 02

  That's not true. I will do some desserts. That's not true. I'll take that back. Uh, what?

• 15:28Travis Kelce?

  Were you ever a caramel apple guy?

• 15:30Speaker 02

  No, I don't like it. I like apples. I will eat an apple by itself. I don't like caramel. I'm not a big like dressing. I like apple and peanut butter. I'll throw some peanut butter on that apple.

• 15:40Travis Kelce?

  So you don't like caramel is what you're saying?

• 15:42Speaker 02

  I like caramel on certain things. I just don't really, the other thing is like a caramel apple for me with a beard to eat is just like, sounds like the biggest disaster of all time. Like it's going to be fucking everywhere. I'm not, yeah, yeah. You could cut it up. I suppose I just.

• 15:57Speaker 02

  Like I like caramel in certain things. I like caramel mixed with chocolate. I don't like caramel with apple. No.

• 16:03Travis Kelce?

  All right. Nice. Noted.

• 16:04Speaker 02

  Yeah. Anyways, I don't know what we just.

• 16:06Travis Kelce?

  I don't know where that even.

• 16:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. So yes, we agree. Turkey sucks. All right. Sweet potatoes. Let's go.

• 16:12Speaker 04

  Okay. So my Thanksgiving holiday hot take is that sweet potatoes have no place in the Thanksgiving menu. Whipped, mashed, roasted. They are just the least of the least. They're the worst thing on the table.

• 16:28Speaker 02

  You're fucking out of your mind.

• 16:30Travis Kelce?

  Fucking idiot.

• 16:30Speaker 04

  Maple syrup. It just, it's a dessert.

• 16:33Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 16:33Speaker 04

  You're, you're.

• 16:34Travis Kelce?

  You're right.

• 16:35Speaker 04

  To, uh, pumpkin pie already.

• 16:37Travis Kelce?

  What are you trying to watch your calories?

• 16:39Speaker 04

  Put a marshmallow on top. Put a meringue on top. But you don't use sweet potatoes on your menu. You've got, you could do roasted root vegetables. You can do your mashed potatoes.

• 16:48Speaker 02

  Roasted root vegetables?

• 16:49Speaker 04

  All kinds of other things. Carrots, honey glazed carrots.

• 16:52Travis Kelce?

  Honey, I'm in on honey glazed carrots.

• 16:54Speaker 02

  Now you're just getting carrots to dessert.

• 16:57Speaker 04

  And they just don't go well. They don't melt well.

• 17:02Speaker 04

  Basically in a whole bunch of savory stuff. You're not going to put your gravy over your sweet potatoes. You're not going to, you know, take a Brussels sprout and dip it in your sweet potato. That's just weird. You can't.

• 17:13Speaker 02

  He's all over the place.

• 17:14Speaker 04

  Or anything. It's got marshmallows, maple syrup, and, uh, that's it. It's, it's wrong. It should not be on a, uh, Thanksgiving table. That's, that's my best hot take.

• 17:26Speaker 02

  Well, you're wrong. Sweet potatoes and marshmallows and freaking.

• 17:29Travis Kelce?

  I think potatoes and sweet potatoes both should be on the table.

• 17:32Speaker 02

  You don't need to have one or the other. Sweet potato fries. If somebody made sweet potato fries, I'd be fucking jazzed personally. I don't understand the roasted root vegetable like this guy walks fucking.

• 17:42Travis Kelce?

  Where the fuck did he go? Where the fuck is the, that is, you want to talk about a hot take?

• 17:46Speaker 02

  You want beets in here? Like, what are we talking about? And then he said, like, you can't, you can't candy up the sweet potato, but you can have candied carrots? With honey glazed on them?

• 17:56Travis Kelce?

  I'm in on that though.

• 17:57Speaker 02

  If you gave me the choice of honey glazed carrots or sweet potatoes or marshmallow on them, I'm taking the sweet potatoes or marshmallow all day.

• 18:03Travis Kelce?

  Some roasted honey carrots are good though, man.

• 18:05Speaker 02

  I don't, I'm not in on the honey carrots.

• 18:07Travis Kelce?

  Dude, I got you.

• 18:09Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 18:09Travis Kelce?

  No.

• 18:10Speaker 02

  Carrots, when they get roasted, they just get mushy. They get too mushy for me.

• 18:13Travis Kelce?

  No, you still gotta have that crunch, a little bit of that.

• 18:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, but it's hard. Yeah, if it, if it has, if it's cooked perfectly, I could do it.

• 18:20Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 18:21Speaker 02

  But I just, I prefer carrot cake. That's how I prefer my carrots.

• 18:24Travis Kelce?

  See, now we're talking.

• 18:25Speaker 02

  Cream cheese frosting.

• 18:26Travis Kelce?

  I didn't know you were a carrot cake guy. Next time you're in the city, I got a place.

• 18:29Speaker 02

  Dude.

• 18:30Travis Kelce?

  Get these little carrot cupcakes and make you feel like you're not doing too much.

• 18:34Speaker 02

  I'm not a big frosting guy. The only reason I think I like carrot cake is because of the cream cheese frosting.

• 18:40Travis Kelce?

  Dude, I got the place for you.

• 18:41Speaker 02

  It's good. It's so good.

• 18:42Travis Kelce?

  I got the place for you.

• 18:45Speaker 02

  Like, what are we making apple pie for? Just put the carrots in there.

• 18:48Travis Kelce?

  Jack Stack has one of the best carrot cakes. Ever, dude. It's so good that people like, just like go in and get the carrot cake, like cupcakes, just so that they don't feel too bad about getting the entire fucking mammoth of a cake that, that you could get there.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  We have a couple of spots around here that we'll go and specifically just get the carrot cake and then we'll eat it like two fatties all day.

• 19:09Travis Kelce?

  It's the best, dude. It's the best. And they do, they just slab that fucking cheesecake icing on there. It's so fucking good.

• 19:16Speaker 02

  No doubt. We're big, um. Stocks people as well in Philadelphia. That's a big dessert one for us. I don't know how we keep getting back to desserts. We keep getting back to desserts. All right. We're talking about sweet potatoes. Sweet potatoes are fine.

• 19:28Travis Kelce?

  They're good. They're fucking awesome.

• 19:29Speaker 02

  I mean, you can have sweet potatoes and mashed potatoes. I don't think you have to differentiate between these two, and I disagree. Like you can do sweet potatoes with marshmallows and the maple glaze. And then at the end of the day, you can have your dessert too. Like what do we, we're not calorie counting on Thanksgiving.

• 19:46Travis Kelce?

  No, that's not what we're doing here.

• 19:48Speaker 02

  We're making the most delicious thing possible. If that may be throwing marshmallows on top of it, bring it on, brother.

• 19:53Travis Kelce?

  Bring it up. Throw that shit on top.

• 19:56Speaker 02

  Throwing roasted root vegetables like that's fucking gonna get it done.

• 19:59Travis Kelce?

  Unless you're throwing fucking marshmallows.

• 20:01Speaker 02

  This guy's coming with beets.

• 20:04Travis Kelce?

  I don't even know if I'd like that. Yeah. I don't even know.

• 20:07Speaker 02

  I mean, I like beets, but that's if you like, put it with goat cheese and smother a bunch of fucking salad dressing on it. I just had a beet beer in Las Vegas. It was like a beet sour.

• 20:19Travis Kelce?

  Your curiosity to know what shit tastes like.

• 20:23Speaker 02

  It wasn't bad.

• 20:23Travis Kelce?

  Blows my mind. The fact that you actually had.

• 20:27Speaker 02

  I'm in on it.

• 20:28Travis Kelce?

  A beet. You'll try, you'll try any kind of fucking beer and it's absolutely disgusting. You had, you brought, you gave me a fucking blueberry beer one time. And I wanted to fucking shoot myself.

• 20:40Speaker 02

  Probably great.

• 20:41Travis Kelce?

  It was disgusting.

• 20:42Speaker 02

  I like experimenting.

• 20:43Travis Kelce?

  I like a little citrus lime or something or like a.

• 20:46Speaker 02

  A little garage beer lime. I got you.

• 20:48Travis Kelce?

  I like it. I like a cider. I'll drink a cider.

• 20:50Speaker 02

  Ciders, I'm, I'm not a big cider guy. It's too much. It's too sweet.

• 20:55Travis Kelce?

  But beet beer was good.

• 20:58Speaker 02

  It was okay. I wouldn't want to drink a bunch of it, but for one glass, it was a unique flavor profile. It had like a borscht soury kind of thing happening. It was not bad.

• 21:08Travis Kelce?

  That's all I got for his sweet potato take.

• 21:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, the sweet potatoes. I mean.

• 21:12Travis Kelce?

  That was a rough take.

• 21:13Speaker 05

  That was a rough take. Uh, this is my last question coming from me, just based on that conversation.

• 21:17Speaker 02

  Oh gosh.

• 21:18Speaker 05

  Really quick. No, no, this is good. This is good. Last question, real quick. What is the best Thanksgiving side dish? One, two, three, go.

• 21:26Speaker 02

  Green bean casserole.

• 21:27Speaker 05

  Ooh.

• 21:29Travis Kelce?

  Mag and cheese.

• 21:29Speaker 05

  Mag and cheese. Yeah, okay. I knew. I knew it was more of a Travis on this one. I knew we were locked in.

• 21:33Speaker 02

  The problem with mac and cheese is it's not.

• 21:35Speaker 05

  No, that's where you're wrong. The problem, there is no problem. The end.

• 21:38Speaker 02

  Well, here's the problem. Here's the problem.

• 21:40Travis Kelce?

  If anything.

• 21:41Speaker 02

  It's an everyday.

• 21:42Speaker 05

  Not the way, not the way you make it on Thanksgiving.

• 21:45Speaker 02

  Yes, it is.

• 21:45Speaker 05

  You guys make it all the time. You guys are like, you guys are not just doing it out of the box?

• 21:49Speaker 02

  You do it. I've had it baked a thousand times too. Yes. Like I don't, it's not always out of the box. I'm not, green bean casserole is like an exclusive thing to Thanksgiving.

• 22:00Speaker 05

  Really?

• 22:01Speaker 02

  I mean, pretty much.

• 22:02Travis Kelce?

  Not mine.

• 22:04Speaker 02

  The sweet potatoes.

• 22:05Speaker 05

  Travis is having it every goddamn day.

• 22:08Travis Kelce?

  I'm having it never.

• 22:10Speaker 02

  Travis is not having green bean casserole.

• 22:12Speaker 05

  That's true. I mean, it's mac and cheese. Mac and cheese is the answer. I'll go one step further. Mac and cheese the day after. Get that congealed.

• 22:18Speaker 02

  I'll go one step further into mac and cheese is the most overrated dessert or a side item. It's not, I'm not a big mac and cheese guy. Travis has always been a big mac and cheese guy. I've never been a big mac and cheese guy.

• 22:27Speaker 05

  So now we have Canada mad at us. We have the mac and cheese fans mad at us. We're just going down.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  It's okay. I just think it's overrated. It's not, there's a thousand other things you can have cheesy and I would prefer.

• 22:38Speaker 05

  I think when you get it just right and it's got like that baked crust, that is.

• 22:43Travis Kelce?

  I hear you. I hear you.

• 22:44Speaker 02

  It's not bad. If you get the, if you get the crunchies to it.

• 22:46Speaker 05

  Get the crunchies.

• 22:47Speaker 02

  It's good. It's good.

• 22:49Speaker 05

  You also can fuck it up real good too. I've seen some people deliver some wet ass noodles. It is not good.

• 22:53Travis Kelce?

  I don't like shit too cheesy.

• 22:55Speaker 02

  That green bean casserole. God damn, I can't wait.

• 22:57Speaker 05

  Wait, does Kylie make that?

• 22:58Travis Kelce?

  What's in this green bean?

• 22:59Speaker 05

  Kylie, what do you make on Thanksgiving, Jason? What do you help with?

• 23:02Speaker 02

  I fry the turkey and Kylie doesn't even eat that. So I pretty much make a turkey for myself.

• 23:08Travis Kelce?

  This guy is so fucking funny.

• 23:13Speaker 02

  She doesn't trust me cooking this shit, cooking it right.

• 23:15Travis Kelce?

  What's in this casserole?

• 23:17Speaker 02

  I believe, I could be wrong because I've never made it. Uh, green beans are a component. I believe it's, um. Like this mushroom, uh, oh my gosh, what's it called? It's like a cream mushroom thing that is like the base of it.

• 23:29Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 23:30Speaker 02

  It's like a creamy texture.

• 23:32Travis Kelce?

  Clam chowder with green beans.

• 23:33Speaker 02

  And then it's got fried onions on top of it, basically like it's across the board. I think Travis is not a big fan of green bean casserole.

• 23:40Travis Kelce?

  I think when I was there, I tried it just because I was appreciative and thankful like my dad always taught me.

• 23:44Speaker 05

  I'm looking at pictures of it. I know Travis is out on this. This is the anti Travis Kelce dish.

• 23:49Speaker 02

  One thing we never had growing up that I'm a big fan of is cranberry sauce. But Kylie only likes the like canned cranberry sauce.

• 23:57Speaker 05

  She's correct.

• 23:58Speaker 02

  I don't like the canned cranberry sauce as much as I like like actually made cranberry sauce.

• 24:02Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, because canned isn't actually made.

• 24:04Speaker 02

  Well, it's, it's like more, I like a fresh cranberry sauce made rather than a cranberry sauce that's.

• 24:10Speaker 05

  I want to see the ridges. I want to see the.

• 24:13Speaker 02

  I don't like that.

• 24:14Speaker 05

  I want to see the ridges, brother.

• 24:16Speaker 02

  I'm out on the ridges.

• 24:17Speaker 05

  I want that thing to come plopping out and don't even touch it. Just let it sit as a cylinder.

• 24:21Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 24:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what it looks like.

• 24:24Speaker 05

  Let it be nasty. All right.

• 24:25Travis Kelce?

  So you like Jell-O?

• 24:26Speaker 02

  Exactly. That's what it is.

• 24:27Speaker 05

  Jell-O is technically cold fruit.

• 24:28Travis Kelce?

  I always steered clear Jell-O because it was always like hospital food.

• 24:32Speaker 05

  That is a little weird.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  I feel like pudding is more of a hospital food in my mind.

• 24:36Travis Kelce?

  I would like eat the Jell-O packs like they were fun dip. I wouldn't, I wouldn't fucking, I wouldn't, I wasn't very, very in on.

• 24:47Speaker 02

  That's very funny.

• 24:51Speaker 05

  Just dipping your little finger.

• 24:55Speaker 02

  Like, that's like a Kool-Aid play. That's odd. You would do that with Jell-O packets.

• 24:59Travis Kelce?

  You know what? You know what that might be? No, I think it was Jell-O. I think it was Jell-O.

• 25:03Speaker 05

  I think you could technically do it with Jell-O too. It's just sugar and fruit powder. Yeah. Little Travis Kelce with just green ass fingers. I wonder what he's been doing.

• 25:12Speaker 02

  All right. And that wraps up another edition of Heights Hotline. That's right. We'll have some more bonus content for you all in December, so stay tuned for what that might be.

• 25:22Travis Kelce?

  All right. Now, once again, New Heights, a wondery show. Please follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with W N S. And, uh, we give a big shout out and a thank you to our production crew for always making. So much easier and so much more fun than it could ever be. And thank you to the 92 percenters for listening to us talk about absolutely nothing, but kind of something all at the same time. We love you guys. Happy Thanksgiving.