Clintons Clash With Comer In Epstein Files Showdown w/ Rep. Jared Moskowitz | PBD #733

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana are joined by Rep. Jared Moskowitz as they break down the discovery of a Chinese-linked biolab inside a Las Vegas home, escalating fallout from the Epstein files, and a Bitcoin-led crypto rout wiping out nearly $2 trillion in market value. ---- 👕 VT ALLEGEDLY COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3ZVlemY 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:02Speaker 00

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 0:09Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 0:10Speaker 00

  My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I buy Clarks and somebody's like, why would you wear old man shoes? Oh, yeah, they're not attractive. You're young. I'm like, wait a minute, I'll never buy this again. They used to make something called the Walligan. Okay, folks, we have a, we have a lot of things going on here. People are fighting out here. Mike, are you good? Mike, are you all right? You sound like you're about to fall. Mike is beating somebody up. You okay? All right, sounds good. Very aggressive. Lots of things going on and we have a very interesting guest with us here. I don't know how, you know, what, let me give you some facts about this guy. Number one, he wears Jays in the chamber. Nice. And I'm talking like when he goes to the White House, you know, they go to the chamber. All these congressmen are together. He wears Jays and they say nothing to him because they're required to wear closed toe shoes. So that's, that's considered closed toe and he likes to follow guidelines. But there's a few other things about him that we need to know about.

• 1:02Patrick Bet-David?

  There's rumors, he may or may not like Michael Rapaport. I don't know what's going on over there. May like, may not like, we're trying to figure this part out. And the other part that we like about this guy is back in the days during COVID, he was one of 11 Democrats who voted to end, what was it? The COVID, you know, the national emergency was one of 11. Not popular. Love it. If you're on that side. So California Democrats don't like this guy. Some of them probably like him. I don't know. I'm just saying it's a different Democrat in Florida than it is in California. I got a bunch of other things I can say about him. But voted for Lieberman, if I'm not mistaken. I got a bunch of other things here. Anyways, it's great to have you on the podcast. Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Great to have you on the podcast.

• 1:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam's got a lot of good things to say about you. I wrote him. We have to get a briefing from Adam. Adam said, he's a good guy. He's this, he's that. So if you need an agent, if you have a lead. We met at the White House a month ago. We did. Had a good conversation and I said, you should come on the podcast. He said, let's do it. And here we are. Something tells me you guys get along because Moskowitz, Sosnake, like there's something going on there. I'm not understanding what you're saying exactly.

• 2:09Speaker 02

  He's saying, he's saying at some point.

• 2:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Our fate is the same.

• 2:22Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 2:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Exactly.

• 2:23Speaker 02

  But I'm betting on Jesus right now.

• 2:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Some there's apparently something going out there.

• 2:26Speaker 02

  They said you were both Irish.

• 2:28Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. Okay, so story wise, what's going on? A lot of weird things going on, folks. If you if you had money in AI or Bitcoin or XRP or anything. Since October, when crypto hit its highest, $2 trillion of wealth has been wiped out. Okay, just yesterday, $600 billion was wiped out in the stock market in equities. We're not talking crypto. I think six, $700 billion was wiped out this week from crypto. Bitcoin is down to 60,000. A lot of people are panicking. We'll talk about that. I'm sure there's some thoughts on what's going on there. Amazon stock falls 10% on $200 billion spending forecast. Earning missed, all the layoffs, that's a concern. A lot of people are talking about the layoffs.

• 3:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Clintons come out, that things are back and forth on Twitter with Hillary specifically, not necessarily Bill. Rob, if I'm not mistaken, it's more Hillary than it is Bill. Asking Comer, they want the hearing to be public. Comer wants to do it private. She wants it to be public. I don't know if this is posturing. I don't know what's going on. At the same time, yesterday, the president was complimentary about Bill Clinton. He says, I don't like how they go after Bill sometimes, you know, they kind of give him a hard time too much. So he is so interesting with the things that he does. We'll cover that as well. What is Save Act? CNN Save Act. CNN polling finds strong voter ID support among black Americans and other groups.

• 3:55Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll cover that as well. And a few other stories that we got here. Trump administration halts small business loans to foreign nationals, requiring full American ownership. Chinese-linked biolab discovered in Las Vegas home sparked federal investigation with SWAT response. Then you got Karen Bass. She was not happy. Secretly altered Palisades fire analysis to downplay LA's failure. Now, of course, that would never happen in LA. This is allegations, allegedly, who knows? We'll address that. JD Vance somehow, some way.

• 4:33Patrick Bet-David?

  is choosing to lead California's anti-fraud task force. I wonder why they signed him to go and do this to California. Maybe, I don't know what this is. Maybe it's like a 2028 matchup prediction. Although, you know, people are downplaying Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio is coming up. Let me tell you, Marco Rubio is kind of making a name for himself. The other day when we're in DC talking to people, it's interesting who was saying they're more Rubio than JD and maybe JD is trying to say, hey, man, I got, I got some power here as well. And JD has come down a little bit. Rubio has come up a lot. So we'll see. We'll see what's gonna happen. This is Calci, next US presidential

• 5:13Patrick Bet-David?

  election winner. And we're talking $10 million of predictions that's, that's been placed on Calci on that. So we'll see. Maybe JD is trying to get back in the mix. Trump says Iran's Ayatollah should be very worried. I don't know if you guys saw the tweet yesterday. I'm sure you got some thoughts on Iran as well. We'll come to you. They said yesterday, US, any US citizens that are visiting Iran, get out. Get out. You know, it's not good weather. Apparently, there's gonna be bad weather coming in like a bad storm. It's coming in allegedly, and we'll see what that storm means. White House has confirmed that Dodgers will attend World Series ceremony. Good for them for attending. Apparently, the Japanese get along with the president because half that

• 5:55Patrick Bet-David?

  team is Japanese at this point, I'm sure. It seems like Dodgers want to sign anybody and everybody from Japan. You guys have a monopoly. There's a lot of words I can use with Dodger fans out there. Tom, I don't appreciate it, but for now, be settled because cameras are on.

• 6:10Tom Ellsworth?

  2027 already, they're gonna be at the White House?

• 6:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 6:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, no, no, no, no. This is for last year.

• 6:13Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, Mr. Cocky. Let's see if you guys can get the three P's.

• 6:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Minority owner of the Yankees.

• 6:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump slams Caitlin Collins for not smiling enough. And, you know, Vinnie has some reasons why he thinks she's not smiling enough. I don't know what's going on there. Bernie Sanders spent over $550,000 in 2025 campaign funds on private jets. I don't know why socialists are upset at that. I mean, what's wrong with that? Like, what's, what's wrong with, you know, traveling private? Bernie's trying to get somewhere faster.

• 6:40Tom Ellsworth?

  He's famous.

• 6:41Patrick Bet-David?

  And, you know, he's made a lot of money and, you know, it's like efficiency, right?

• 6:44Speaker 02

  If you're gonna fight the oligarchy who flies private.

• 6:48Speaker 04

  You gotta meet them where they're at.

• 6:49Speaker 05

  One thousand.

• 6:50Speaker 04

  That's all I'm saying.

• 6:51Speaker 05

  Talking about Jared.

• 6:52Speaker 04

  Okay, that's all I'm saying.

• 6:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, so that's where it is.

• 6:53Speaker 02

  Well played.

• 6:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Musk says a save act requiring ID to vote must be done or democracy is dead. Melinda Gates is not happy. Some stuff happened. Someone was trying to put something in her drink. And that someone was apparently her ex-husband, which is, your husband shouldn't put something in the drink, so she's upset. She was in an interview. Bill Gates has some regrets about his relationship with Epstein. And then, guys, I have 50 stories on Epstein. I don't even know where. We'll go Epstein and then we'll see what direction we'll go. Keira Starmer, there's a Kao Shi today that just popped up that they're talking about when he's gonna be stepping out or not. I don't know if you guys saw this one. So is he stepping out? It's pretty nasty because of

• 7:35Speaker 05

  That's not good.

• 7:35Speaker 04

  That's 60.

• 7:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's not good. So we'll see what happened there. ICE updates Trump oversees lowest level of illegal immigration at the border in over 50 years. But he does not believe that his team is doing a good job at public relations. Maybe he's right. And then we got a few other stories here. Hopefully we'll get to it. WaPo, a lot of people are unhappy with this guy named Jeff. They're not happy with him. They're just not. Because he fired not just 300 employees, he fired 300 journalists. Not editors, not designers, not copywriters, not any of that stuff. Journalists. Like that's, it's like saying, firing 300 engineers and your job is coding. They fired 300 journalists. It's a mess over there at WaPo. Who knows? Maybe it's gonna be on sale and somebody's gonna be able to pick it up.

• 8:22Patrick Bet-David?

  And then a reporter confronts Billie Eilish at her house, saying, can you please move? You're on stolen land. And she refused. I don't know why she refused to move. And it was like a big deal.

• 8:33Speaker 04

  I'm still trying to get all my stuff back from Poland and Germany.

• 8:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You are?

• 8:36Speaker 04

  The houses and the paintings that were taken.

• 8:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's weird.

• 8:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe one of these days.

• 8:41Speaker 04

  One of these days.

• 8:41Patrick Bet-David?

  If the stolen land happens.

• 8:42Speaker 04

  Stolen land.

• 8:42Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna follow up with you, Jared. Keep your hopes high. Something could happen. Alright, having said that, let's get right into it. Jared, take a minute. Share with the audience what your background is and what you do.

• 8:52Speaker 04

  So I'm from Broward County, born and raised. Family was from Brooklyn, came down here. My grandparents retired here. I went to Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School, you know, where the horrible shooting was at. I got elected really young. I got elected to the Parkland City Commission when I was 25. I was the youngest elected official in the state at the time. And, you know, the rest is really history. Wound up in the State House. I was there during the shooting. And then this guy, Ron DeSantis, won for governor. I didn't vote for him, didn't support him, supported the other guy. But they came to me and asked me to become the Director of Emergency Management for the state of Florida because that was my background in the private sector. I was doing emergency management. So, you know, I didn't want to take the job because I was like, how am I going to go work for a guy I fundamentally disagree with? But then I, you know, I talked to those parents that, you know, buried their

• 9:37Speaker 04

  kids. Because government, if you look at what happened in Parkland, government failed those parents. They had, the FBI had hits on the kid, the school board did, you know, the sheriff's office. And so I took my political hat off and I went to go work for Ron DeSantis for two and a half years. I led the entire COVID response for the state of Florida when I think we got COVID right more than the other 49 states. And then he appointed me to the Broward County Commission. I'm a twice-appointed Ron DeSantis Democrat, as my socialist opponent likes to point out. And then after that, I ran for Congress. And so, you know, that's, that's kind of the history. You know, my wife is from here, you know, my kids, you know, we're all here. We love, we love Florida.

• 10:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Respect. And by the way, didn't, did you get approached by the administration to run FEMA? Was there some talks with you and FEMA?

• 10:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, look, I met with the folks. I'm not going to go into the details. But, you know, I met with the folks at the highest level on whether they would be interested and I would be interested. Because I do think the president was, was right that FEMA needed reform, and I was interested in reforming it. But unfortunately, that's not the direction that Noem has gone with FEMA. She's, she's basically just dismantled it.

• 10:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Okay, so this is a little bit of background with our friend here, Jared. With that being said, let's get right into it. Rob, what is a top story the audience wants to talk about? Files. Well, I hadn't heard about that. What is that? What is that? Okay, what direction do we want to go with this? Let's go through here. Let's start off with the first one here. So Hillary Clinton and James Comer are going back and forth. And this is the tweet from 23 so hours ago. That got 14 million views. For six months, we engaged Republicans on the Oversight Committee in good faith, and we told them what we know. Under oath, they ignored all of it. They moved the goalposts and turned accountability into an exercise on distraction. So let's stop the games.

• 11:31Patrick Bet-David?

  If you want this fight, James Comer, let's have it in public. You love to talk about transparency. There's nothing more transparent than a public hearing. Cameras on. We will be there. Straight up Hillary Clinton. President Trump comes back and says he doesn't like the fact that it bothers me, Rob. I think you got a clip on this one. If you want to play it, go for it.

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• 12:25Speaker 00

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• 12:55Speaker 02

  But it bothers me that somebody's going after Bill Clinton. See, I like Bill Clinton. I still like Bill. What do you like about him? Uh, I like, well, I liked his behavior toward me.

• 13:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I thought he got me, he understood me. Okay, so, and by the way, I think this is the interview they're doing for halftime Super Bowl, which he was actually impressed, he liked the interviewer, apparently, that they went back and forth. So Jared, what do you think's going on over here with James Comer, Hillary Clinton, and the President?

• 13:24Speaker 04

  Well, first of all, I love the President's answer, right? What do you like about Bill Clinton? I like that he likes me. We knew, we knew that was the first answer. And then, and then he went deep with it. He was like, I feel like Bill Clinton really gets me.

• 13:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 13:37Speaker 04

  And I'm like, oh, oh, that deep. He then, he then, later on in that interview, he says that, you know, Bill Clinton was telling everyone, you don't want to run against Trump. So, you know, Bill Clinton's also his campaign advisor, apparently. Look, I think what's going on with this, I have a lot of history with Comer. I used to be on the Oversight Committee during the Biden impeachment, remember that? They were going to impeach Joe Biden, which they never did, because Comer never found any evidence. He called me a smurf once.

• 14:05Patrick Bet-David?

  So you guys have history, you and Comer?

• 14:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, I mean, like, I've been small, I've been short, like, for 45 years, but this guy thought, like, oh, he's going to point it out, and somehow that's going to get under my skin.

• 14:15Patrick Bet-David?

  How tall, is he tall? Is he a 6'5"?

• 14:16Speaker 04

  He's tall. I mean, you know, and he's, he's just a terrible chairman of Oversight. He once said to me, I don't know if you know this, Jared, but I'm like the largest landowner in my county, and I was like, you know, Mr. Chairman, we don't value people anymore and how much land they own. That's like an old metric, you know, that, that we used to do, but...

• 14:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Where is he? Out of Kentucky?

• 14:35Speaker 04

  He's out of, he's out of Kentucky. You know, his own colleagues don't have a lot of respect for him because of the failed impeachment, just really embarrassed himself. But, you know, he's still the chairman, he's, I'm told he's a fantastic farmer, so I'm happy for him, you know, value our farmers, love our farmers. And, but I'll tell you this, I think he's overstepped, what's going on.

• 14:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me why.

• 14:57Speaker 04

  And I think that's why the president's saying what he's saying. This is a really bad precedent for the Republicans. So you're now going to bring in a former president? Congress is going to bring in a former president in front of committee? You know whose antenna went up with that right away? Trump's. Trump's antenna went up with that. Not this Trump's, but maybe like Trump's kids? Maybe like Trump's extended family? Okay? Because I can tell you, there are Democrats that are salivating at what Comer just did here. And this will be the Comer precedent. This will be the Comer legacy. And so when Jared Kushner, or Eric, or Junior, or their kids are, you know, sitting in Congress in depositions, they can blame James Comer for creating this legacy. And there are Democrats, it's not me, because I don't like this part.

• 15:42Speaker 04

  I think the weaponization of this is, this is not what America is about, where we bring in our political opponents, you know, and we try to use the official process. We're seeing it more and more, and this is what happens in Congress. It's like high school. One side escalates, and it's just more escalatory behavior.

• 15:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think Comer and the president are speaking, and the president's saying to back off a little bit, or no?

• 16:02Speaker 04

  I don't think they're speaking directly, but I view the president's comment that he doesn't like what's happening to Bill Clinton. Okay? It's a shame, is what he said. I think that's a message to the people in Congress, like, you do this, you understand they're gonna, if Democrats take the House in November, there are very progressive chairmen that can't wait to use this precedent on the administration.

• 16:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, what if the other side says, what are you talking about, Jared? They put 91 felonies on the guy, they tried, they got him a mugshot. What could be worse than what they did to Trump? This is like 1,100, 1,1000 of what they did to him.

• 16:43Speaker 04

  Trump actually says that in the interview. He goes on in that interview, and he says, you know, "They did it to me, they tried to do it to me." And it's funny, usually, you know, Trump, who's, you know, taking some retribution on some of those folks that did that, he doesn't have that towards the Clintons. He says Hillary's very capable in that interview. So he doesn't have it towards the Clintons. I think they've known each other a long time. Remember, they're both from New York. You know, and I think he, I think Trump.

• 17:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Mutual respect?

• 17:08Speaker 04

  Mutual respect, but I think Trump's also a guy that like, if he likes you, he likes you. And I think he likes Bill Clinton. And but I, I think his team recognizes they may lose the House. Uh, and there's a lot out there, right? There's a Qatari plane, there's the UAE investment. You know, there's all the crypto stuff, you know, there's a lot there. Uh, and there's all the Epstein stuff. I mean, Trump's name, whether, you know, there's evidence or not evidence, Trump's name appears more times in the Epstein files than Harry Potter's name appears in the seven books about Harry Potter. Okay. And so, you know, this is, if this is where they want to go, this will come back to them in, in 11 months when.

• 17:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what do you think?

• 17:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, discovery is a two-edged sword. Um, and this is why big lawsuits with large corporations, usually, they don't want to get to trial, they want to get to some sort of a settlement. Because discovery can dig up other things and you go down another rabbit holes. Um, I think there's something going on behind the curtain here. You know, and for Hillary to say, cameras on, we want to be there. The question is, what does Hillary want to say for those cameras? Uh, what does she want to bring up for those cameras? And everybody, the one truth of the Epstein files, there's one simple truth, is that powerful people around the world have been trying to get their, their proxies and people in there to keep these from coming out. Now we see why.

• 18:32Tom Ellsworth?

  All the way from the Royals in Britain to the top of prominent law firms in the United States, people resigning. And I don't think anybody, the, the timing is, Pat, don't you think timing is a little coincidental here? The Epstein files come out the next drop and suddenly the Clintons go from silent, you know, kind of a, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll bring them up in contempt. James Comer saying, we'll bring them up in contempt. Clinton silent, speaking through proxies, saying very little. The files come out and she's like, okay, you want a hearing? Let's have a hearing. Get the cameras on.

• 19:06Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you saying though, Tom? What are you saying?

• 19:08Tom Ellsworth?

  I think, I think she's sending a warning to people. says, I could say things. We know things. You know, we know things. Do you want to go down the

• 19:17Speaker 04

  Oh, I think I think there's a piece of that because by the way, Hillary is not in the files. There's no pictures with Hillary, right? The Hillary is not a part of this. There are pictures with Bill. We've all seen them, right? So the Republicans, including Hillary in this was, you know, them was an overreach. It had nothing to do with the Epstein subpoena. It was like, oh, you know what? Let's just try to do Hillary too, you know? And so Hillary's like, you want to bring me in? No problem. I'll have that game. And what she wants is she wants to show that she'll come publicly. Hunter Biden did this too, when they wanted to subpoena Hunter. He showed up to a hearing and Republicans wouldn't let him

• 19:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Talk.

• 19:53Speaker 04

  Let him talk in the hearing. Hillary wants the American people to see with the cameras. What Comer's been doing is he likes to do these depositions in a basement. And then he comes out mid deposition to the camera and says, here's what's going on in the room. Right? So he can set the stage. So he can set the stage. This is an old tactic. Both sides have used this when we do these depots. But in a public hearing, you don't have that. You also have, you know, 20 Republicans, 20 Democrats. They're all asking questions. It's a very different, let me say, show than a deposition in a room that you then can go out to the American people and say, here's what happened in there.

• 20:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Jared, it's 2020, no matter who's the majority at the time? 20 Republican, 20 Democrat?

• 20:34Speaker 04

  No, the Republicans have more, more members.

• 20:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Because whoever has more seats gets more.

• 20:38Speaker 04

  So 25.

• 20:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, I got it.

• 20:40Speaker 04

  25 to 20.

• 20:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Benny, where are you at with this? Where are you at with this?

• 20:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom, say what you're saying. In the modern news world, private hearings like that is a dirty business, whether you're Republican or Democrat. Because intentional leaks come out and spin what's really being said, and the witnesses are bound not to speak.

• 20:56Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 20:56Tom Ellsworth?

  So you have to go to your private deposition.

• 20:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Dirty move on both sides.

• 21:00Tom Ellsworth?

  It is. It's dirty on both sides.

• 21:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you choose to say, I don't want to do it private. I want to do public or they force you to do whatever they want to do?

• 21:05Speaker 04

  That's what's happening. So what? So for the last six months, they have been negotiating on just the format. That's the, that's the disagreement here.

• 21:13Patrick Bet-David?

  They negotiating is who? Clintons?

• 21:14Speaker 04

  The Clintons with Comer, the lawyers have been negotiating a format, right? So like, let me give you an example because I've been in these negotiations before. So. So the Clintons will say, well, the subpoena is on Epstein, we want it so the questions can only be on Epstein.

• 21:27Patrick Bet-David?

  No whitewater, no history.

• 21:28Speaker 04

  Correct. And Comer will say, no, no limitations on topics. Well, the Clintons say, well, we're not going to agree to that. Okay, because the subpoena is on Epstein. We're not going to talk about everything. And then they'll say, okay, you're going to get three hours with Bill Clinton, you're going to get three hours with Hillary. And Comer will say, no, no, I want unlimited time with both of them. Well, the Clintons are not going to agree to that either. Right? And so this has been going on for six months. They've not been able to agree on how this will work. By the way, this is, happens in every time they bring in a high level witness, right? They subpoena someone, these are the negotiations that go on. And so I think Comer has moved the goalposts several times. Comer sent a demand letter to the Clintons, okay? They originally didn't agree with everything. And then after this went back and forth,

• 22:11Speaker 04

  they eventually, after Comer said, well, then I'll hold you in contempt. Then the Clintons came out and said, okay, we will agree to every request in your letter.

• 22:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Accept.

• 22:18Speaker 04

  And then Comer said, well, I have some additional requests now. And right, and then that's.

• 22:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this factual, what you're saying?

• 22:23Speaker 04

  It's all factual. It's all factual.

• 22:24Patrick Bet-David?

  But so, but who has the leverage to make it private or public?

• 22:28Speaker 04

  Comer does. Comer does.

• 22:29Patrick Bet-David?

  So Comer can make it private or public, the other side has to listen to it.

• 22:32Speaker 04

  Correct. Totally up to Comer.

• 22:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, go ahead.

• 22:34Speaker 05

  Well, with all, I mean, there's so much to unpack. And I think going to the root of it, number one, all these people, all these powerful people, for the fact that they're saying Hillary has that type of attitude and that type of gall, that means everybody has some dirt on them at some point, Jared. You mentioned Trump. I have a feeling everybody at some point did something wrong. And in regard to these people, these powerful people, especially Bill Gates, emailing with your actual email. Bill Gates, what like, how ignorant, number one, but what I think people are failing to understand or grasp, Jared, is the victims. All these millions and millions of files, the young girls or the young boys, we're finding out all the tunnels. I saw a video of a tunnel underneath Epstein Island that went to the water. There's a trap door

• 23:18Speaker 05

  that just went down to the ocean, like it's freaking shark food. People aren't understanding that. The saddest part, that's it right there, Pat. That was in the house, from the back of the house, you just dumped the freaking body in there. Or whoa, is somebody going to go skinny dipping in that? Does that look like a skinny dipping? I think it comes down to the kids and I mean now and I'd mentioned this earlier. Remember and I know that they want to call this the C word back when pizza gate. If you look at the tunnels and the underage kids and the pedophilia and all these people connected. It doesn't seem that far fetched right now. So I feel like everybody has some type of dirt on them. Shame on every single one of them. God have mercy on their souls. Because they're gonna have to pay when it comes to these children because nobody's talking about that. I saw photos of him eating like biting a kid's butt, Pat. And I AI checked it three times.

• 24:02Speaker 05

  Epstein was around little children in pools chasing little girls and where are these people? Where are these kids here? You know what I mean?

• 24:09Speaker 04

  No, no. First of all, this is why Congress took that vote and forced this stuff to come out. Okay, like we were.

• 24:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, you can remove that.

• 24:18Speaker 04

  We were trying to force this stuff to come out because the victims do need justice. There should be justice for the victims. Epstein was the worst of the worst of the worst and clearly, right? All of these people are in the files. Now, just because you're in the file, doesn't mean you're guilty. Okay, but clearly some of these people were there. This idea that oh, only Epstein did this and no one else. Zero people, right? Else participated. No one believes that.

• 24:45Speaker 05

  And Jared, how so and especially great point, Jared. Once, once he was arrested for sleeping with underage girls and prostitution and Lloyd. Whatever the case was, they're still hanging out with him. If, for instance, if God forbid, Tom did something and had that type of conviction. I'm, I'm gonna pray for him, but I will never hang out with him. I will never associate with him. I'm never going to his house. I'm never, he's out of my life.

• 25:09Speaker 04

  I feel like you feel that way already.

• 25:12Tom Ellsworth?

  I think that's very hurtful.

• 25:13Speaker 05

  No, but Jared, you know what I mean? Like, that's the point. Like, these people kept these relationships. They kept going with him. They knew who he was and Jared, it seems like he was protected. And so you were here when, you know, he got in trouble and all that stuff.

• 25:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was here when Pam Bonney was the Attorney General here.

• 25:27Speaker 05

  Afterwards, yeah, yeah.

• 25:27Speaker 04

  And he got the sweetheart deal.

• 25:29Speaker 05

  Sweet, how does that, Jared? How does that happen, my brother? How?

• 25:31Speaker 04

  These are the questions that the American people on the internet have been asking.

• 25:35Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, let me tell you this was so impressive. Rob, can you go to the poll you ran? Look at our audience. Our audience generally, you know. Lean more conservative, right? He runs a poll. And a poll says, do you want this hearing to be public? Or private? Look what the audience voted. Zoom in. Forty-two hundred voted. Ninety-one percent wanted to be public.

• 25:55Speaker 05

  So they're voting on the side of Hillary Clinton?

• 25:57Patrick Bet-David?

  They're voting on the side of, hey, we don't want to have anything kept from us.

• 26:01Speaker 05

  They want the truth.

• 26:02Speaker 04

  They want to hear it.

• 26:03Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what I want to hear.

• 26:04Speaker 05

  I'm with the audience on this.

• 26:05Speaker 04

  The American people have been... Epstein is a... It's obviously horrific, but it's a fascinating bridge of the political divide. Like, we don't agree on anything, but the American people agree everything should come out.

• 26:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Ninety-one percent. By the way, Rob, can you pull up that one email I just sent you? It's stuff like this that you realize, I just text, I just, yeah, there you go. Watch this. Look at this, one of the stuff that's in the Epstein files. New Brazilian just arrived. Sexy and cute, nine years old.

• 26:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Weird.

• 26:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Nine years old.

• 26:40Speaker 05

  Legitimate FBI. This is from the file, Justice Department.

• 26:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Nine years old. Who the hell are you emailing? Who is the other person that got the email? So the stuff that they...

• 26:49Speaker 05

  Putting that in email? Yeah, they're idiots, Adam. They're all idiots.

• 26:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that, what did they do to the trouble?

• 26:54Speaker 04

  By the way, if the "from" is Jeffrey Epstein, they would tell us. That "from" is from somebody else.

• 27:00Speaker 05

  Exactly that.

• 27:01Speaker 04

  That "from"...

• 27:02Speaker 05

  That's not from Epstein.

• 27:02Speaker 04

  That "from" is from somebody else.

• 27:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's the "to"?

• 27:06Speaker 04

  To Epstein.

• 27:07Speaker 05

  That's Epstein is the GE vacation. That's his vacation.

• 27:10Speaker 04

  So...

• 27:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, so somebody else sent it to him?

• 27:13Speaker 04

  So who sent it?

• 27:14Speaker 05

  Maybe his ringler.

• 27:16Tom Ellsworth?

  And those are pictures.

• 27:17Speaker 05

  His ringler.

• 27:17Tom Ellsworth?

  One, two, three, four, five JPGs. Those are pictures.

• 27:21Speaker 05

  And look at Jeffrey Epstein vacation. This is everybody's vacation is going to the island with nine-year-olds. Okay?

• 27:28Speaker 04

  It's gross.

• 27:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I saw a video this morning. Adam, you go because I'm gonna send a video to you, Rob, here in a minute.

• 27:34Speaker 02

  So this whole Epstein situation, the number one thing, the signal through all the noise here is people want some accountability. What the hell happened on this island? We know that Jeffrey Epstein was a world-class scumbag. People want to know who else is hanging with this guy? So Hillary, Trump, Clinton, let's get into these names. Number one, Hillary just showed, "I'm a gangster, I have nothing to hide." Oh, it's kind of like, "Oh, you want to fight? Oh, you want me to meet you outside? Cool, let's go, meet me outside." And now James Comer is like, "No, I didn't, I didn't really want to fight, I just wanted to talk tough." Hillary's basically like, "Yeah, I'll meet you after school, right now, let's do it in public, let's do it in public." And he's like, "No, I'm a little scared on that."

• 28:18Speaker 02

  Kind of like when Candace said, "Anytime, anyplace, let's go, turning point." And they're like, "Tuesday at 3 o'clock," she goes, "I'm busy." So that's a little shady right there on his part. Number two, Trump. Watch what he does, not what he says. I don't think Trump cares about the Clintons. He's the guy that said, "Lock her up, lock her up, lock her up." We didn't actually lock her up. Do you think Trump actually cares about Bill Clinton? He brought five women who accused him of sexual misconduct to a debate, and Bill Clinton looked like he saw five ghosts. So he does not care about Bill Clinton's feelings whatsoever. That's self-preservation, which I think you mentioned. Last point, people want accountability. And lastly, just because your name is in the Epstein file,

• 29:02Speaker 02

  in an email reference to, doesn't mean that you did anything wrong. Jon Stewart said the other day, he goes, "My name was in the Epstein file." They said, "We should get someone like Jon Stewart to host an event to somebody." He goes, "Excuse me, someone like Jon Stewart? How about just Jon Stewart, buddy?" So just because your name's in something, doesn't mean you did anything. And you remember what happened with Mike Tyson, Pat?

• 29:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember when he took a pic, what was the story? He took a picture with a murderer? Yeah, a guy comes and takes a picture with a murderer who had just killed eight people or something like that. Next day, they come back to him saying, "What's your relationship with this guy?" I have no clue. He just took a picture. He just took a picture with him. So, some of that's gonna be happening. But what I'm saying is, the, the, the, the part that people want to know is, when you cross the line with kids, people change. Yep. Everybody's on the same page. It's like when 9/11 happened in New York, nobody cared if you were Republican or Democrat. Crossing the line with kids makes everybody part of the same party. There, there's this video I want to show, Rob, if you can pull it up. This happens in America. Okay, watch this clip. Play it. Uh, you can start playing it.

• 30:06Patrick Bet-David?

  And you'll see, you'll see this person asking people at the airport, watch this. You said that you were on vacation, and now you're moving this small child to the airport. I thought you were on vacation. Do you have any comment about children that have gone missing, that you've helped to escort across the country? We have footage here that a lot of these children don't know the sponsors that they are going to. What's going on? There's kids in the car here. And look what happens when the truck leaves. The bags are left. They're panicking, leaving. You can, you can pause this video. Why am I showing this clip? Because you're, you're now, they're saying, if you think for a second he doesn't have ties to the Mossad, selling intel, and then there was a bunch of stuff with Putin.

• 30:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You said the amount of times that, uh, Trump's name is mentioned more than Harry Potter in Harry Potter's eight books. But you hear how many times Putin is mentioned, how many times, you know, the, the names with Russia and Mossad. This is happening. People want to know what's going on. I don't get people, I don't think people care where it's coming from. If it's us, let's find out. If it's Mossad, let's find out. People simply want to get to the bottom of it. I mean, it's so bad right now that Bill Gates's ex-wife, Melinda Gates, gets invited on an interview, right after she's learning about the fact from the Epstein files, that he caught an STD that he was worried about giving her, and Epstein told him allegedly what to take. What drugs to give her.

• 31:33Patrick Bet-David?

  What drugs to give her. Uh, play this clip here, go ahead, Rob.

• 31:36Speaker 02

  The emails and the files suggest that Bill Gates had additional affairs, and that he tried to get medication to treat a sexually transmitted infection, and that he was gonna give you the medicine without you knowing. His representative has said all of this is false. It is not on you to have to respond to the details of that alleged behavior. But I, I wonder what your dominant emotion is when you read these news articles with these details.

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• 33:04Speaker 04

  Sad, just unbelievable sadness. Unbelievable sadness, right?

• 33:15Speaker 04

  And again, I'm able to take my own sadness and look at those young girls and say, my God, how did they, how did that happen to those girls, right? And so for me, it's just sadness, sadness for, you know, I've left, I had, I left my marriage. I had to leave my marriage. I wanted to leave my marriage. I had to leave the, I felt I needed to eventually leave the foundation. It's just sad. That's the truth.

• 33:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Did Bill respond, Rob?

• 33:43Speaker 05

  Bill Gates does respond.

• 33:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Can we, can we play the? Does he really?

• 33:45Speaker 05

  Yeah, and you know what he's trying to go at? I'll let, I'll let him play again. I'll, I'll give my two cents.

• 33:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Pat, you study human nature.

• 33:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 33:51Speaker 05

  Tell me, yeah.

• 33:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Does that, when you look at her like that, what do you think?

• 33:55Speaker 05

  I feel sorry for her.

• 33:55Patrick Bet-David?

  What do I think? Well, I'll tell you what I think. I think a couple of things. I mean, look, it, it's, it's not even the believable part. It's, it's, I think the number one emotion is embarrassed. Is embarrassed. Because, look, guys, I mean, it's well documented when these two got married, whatever, they were together for 27 years. I think in the prenup or some kind of agreement that they had, that she agreed for him to go visit an ex one week a year. Yeah, I don't know if you guys have- Oh, there was something like that, yeah. Yeah, yeah, so, so you can document that in a 1997 Tom, Tom Exum profile. It was reported that Bill and Melinda Gates, early in their relationship, that he could spend an annual long weekend with his former girlfriend, Anne Winblad.

• 34:35Patrick Bet-David?

  And this is not, this is not Daily Mail, this is not, this is Time Magazine profile in 97. So, and anybody that agrees to that, pre-getting married, you pretty much agree that there's something weird about this relationship you're getting into. Can you imagine if I go to my wife and I say, babe, listen, once a year, I'm hanging out with my ex?

• 34:56Speaker 05

  Oh, okay.

• 34:56Patrick Bet-David?

  If you agree to that, we can get married.

• 34:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, by the way, my, my, when I was getting married, my imagination clearly wasn't big enough. I mean-

• 35:04Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta think bigger, buddy.

• 35:05Speaker 04

  I, I, I mean, good lord.

• 35:07Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, you were worrying about like the honeymoon.

• 35:09Patrick Bet-David?

  What I'm saying, that's what I'm saying.

• 35:11Speaker 05

  Forward thinking.

• 35:12Patrick Bet-David?

  But where I'm going to is I actually think, Melinda, maybe not the Epstein stuff, Melinda kinda knew, this guy's the richest man in the world I'm about to marry. I probably have to agree to certain things that maybe I wouldn't get if I married Mr. Johnson, who's a second grade teacher making $47,200 a year. This guy makes out a second. It's a very different situation you got. So, I think she kinda knew who she was getting into. Maybe not the Epstein guy. Here's Bill Gates responding. Go ahead, Rob.

• 35:43Tom Ellsworth?

  He knew a lot of very rich people, and he was saying he could get them, uh, to give money to global health. You know, in retrospect, that was a, a dead end, and I was foolish to spend time with him. I was one of many people who regret ever knowing him. You've no doubt seen the allegations, including some of them from the last- 24 to 48 hours, are they true? No, the, apparently Jeffrey wrote an email to himself. Draft. That email was never sent, the email is, you know, false. So I don't know what his thinking was there. It just reminds me, you know, every minute I spent with him, I, I regret and I, you know, apologize that I did that. The problem is some of the things that he has sent and some of the information about other people that has come up

• 36:29Tom Ellsworth?

  in those files has been true. Why would he do this and say this about you, do you think? You know, it's factually true that I was only at dinners, you know, I never went to the island, I never met any women. And so, you know, the more that comes out, the more clear it'll be, uh, that although the time was a mistake, it had nothing to do with that kind of behavior.

• 36:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you believe him?

• 36:51Speaker 05

  Absolutely not, like, and, and again, everything is fact-based in this world. But whatever happened to your gut and your intuition? Nothing about what he's saying, I believe, with the amount of stuff that, that he is, by the way, this is just one, these are two emails that I read, that he drafted by himself, that he was about to send to, to Bill, uh, to Bill Gates. What, to me, that's almost like a diary, like, why, why would he make up something like that if he, he just didn't send it? It was still on his computer, he went into great detail about it. And just really, really, really quick, Pat, if you don't mind, Adam, when you said earlier about Hillary Clinton, that you're saying that she's gangster and she's like, hey, we don't have anything to hide. I don't think it's that, I think it's, hey, we're all guilty and we're all gonna go down with the ship if you guys open your mouth.

• 37:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Crap, maybe. If I'm going down, I'm pulling everybody down.

• 37:37Speaker 05

  But the one thing, the one thing, Jared, I want to know your opinion. Yeah, but she didn't go to the island, I think that's what she said. Absolutely, but, but the, the main thing, I think, Bill, Bill Clinton had Jeffrey Epstein come to the White House, how many times, Rob, 11, 17? 17. 17 times, he came to the White House, why is a known pedophile coming to the freaking White House to visit with him? And then Mark Middleton, the guy that hooked up the whole thing, hangs himself, shoots himself in the chest, suicide, and then they don't find the gun and it's ruled a suicide? That's a whole, that's a whole different situation, but the fact that Hillary knows if he goes down, everybody's going down. And that's. That's how it is.

• 38:11Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think Jared?

• 38:12Speaker 04

  Well, I think the reason Hillary's acting like this, because again, she has nothing to do with any of this. No one has ever accused Hillary with anything with Jeffrey Epstein. The Republicans threw her in to try to, you know, make it sexier. And so she's like, well, if you're going to include me, then I'm, then I'm, then I'm coming. Let's go.

• 38:27Patrick Bet-David?

  So she's going to draw on other things, stories not even related to Epstein?

• 38:31Speaker 04

  I think, I think she'll come and embarrass him. Look, again, they held Hillary for 11 hours in a hearing one time. Okay, remember that? Without a, without a bathroom break. Right, like Hillary can handle herself.

• 38:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that the Benghazi thing?

• 38:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was a Benghazi.

• 38:44Patrick Bet-David?

  What difference does it make?

• 38:45Speaker 04

  Hillary, Hillary can handle herself. So I, I think that's what she's doing here. Watching the Melinda Gates thing, and I've seen it now a couple of times. I mean, when the question comes in, she takes a gulp of air. It looks like she threw up and swallowed it.

• 38:57Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 38:58Speaker 04

  Okay. Whether that particular email is true or not, she looks into the camera and basically tells us, stuff like that is true that she is aware of. It doesn't have to be that particular email.

• 39:12Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 39:12Speaker 04

  Maybe it is or isn't true, that, that email, but stuff on that level, she knows in her mind.

• 39:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you do me a favor, Rob? Do, run a poll and ask this question. Who do you trust more? Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton? I'm actually curious to know what the audience is going to say. Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton? Because i- i- in ties to Trump, and I'll come to you, this is back in 2015 at CPAC. Trump's being asked about Bill Clinton. I don't know if you remember this clip or not. He went hard on Bill Clinton with Epstein. If you want to play this clip, Rob, go for it. Bill Clinton.

• 39:44Speaker 02

  Nice guy. Uh, got a lot of problems coming up, in my opinion, with the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein. A lot of problems. Epstein in your remarks about, in the Q and A with Sean. Well, I think he's got a problem. I mean, I'm hearing it. I, I don't know, but that island was really a cesspool. There's no question about it.

• 40:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it right there. By the way, if you look at the president, he looks much better than he did here. So he's lost weight. Look at those cheeks. Yeah. Good for him, right? Look at that. He looks better today than he did in 2015. Adam, go ahead.

• 40:12Speaker 02

  Well, number one, we have to state the clear fact. Trump was talking about the cesspool island in 2015. Before he was president.

• 40:19Patrick Bet-David?

  We needed a project manager.

• 40:20Speaker 05

  Whoa.

• 40:21Speaker 02

  So if you need a project manager, there you go. But let's give Trump a little credit. He was calling out Epstein before he even was president. Before he was even running for president. When he was just initiating his campaign right after he came down the escalator. So everything, everybody's accusing Trump of doing something wrong? I don't think so. Number two, there's a big difference between someone like President Bill Clinton? And Bill Gates? Bill Gates first. What the hell does Bill Gates need from Epstein? He doesn't need money. He doesn't need access. He doesn't need power. You're the richest man in the world, or one of the richest men in the world. What are you going to Epstein for? Tax advice? So in my opinion, you're going to Epstein Island because you want to get away.

• 41:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, he says he never went to Epstein Island.

• 41:06Speaker 05

  He said he never went to.

• 41:06Speaker 02

  Okay, but you're associating with Epstein for what? For access to maybe some fun? Okay, I don't know if he did or didn't go. Clinton is a little bit different. Do you need money? Do you need power? Do you need fundraising? What, are you, your next moves after you're leaving the White House?

• 41:25Patrick Bet-David?

  They're saying Bill needs Epstein more than Gates needs Epstein.

• 41:29Speaker 02

  There's more things that someone like Bill Clinton would need from Epstein?

• 41:32Patrick Bet-David?

  So what's your point?

• 41:33Speaker 02

  Than someone like Bill Gates?

• 41:34Patrick Bet-David?

  What's your point?

• 41:34Speaker 02

  That not all two people are the same. Why are you hanging out with this person? It's like, why are you going to Diddy's house?

• 41:40Patrick Bet-David?

  One offers girls and fun, the other offers...

• 41:42Speaker 02

  Exactly. Why are you going to Diddy's house? You want to get some music? You want to become a new producer for him? Or do you want to go to the baby oil party?

• 41:47Speaker 04

  Oh, I think...

• 41:48Speaker 02

  There's a big difference.

• 41:48Speaker 04

  Listen, I think there's a lot in common with a lot of these people. And look, this is part of the, some of the conspiracy that may turn out to be true. Is that he was curating people of power. And it became, you know, it, it became leverage over these people. I mean, Elon is in the files, right? Like, if you look at who these people are, right? The rich and the powerful. How was Epstein able to curate all of those people? Right? I mean, these are not insignificant folks.

• 42:15Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 42:15Speaker 04

  Right? And it goes beyond even the big names. Then there's another second level of gigantic people. Right? Uh, uh, uh, very successful, very wealthy people around the world. And so, you know, the, the people... Think that these were bribery things that were going on. You get a little leverage on these folks, right? And so, you know, that's part of what people wanna wanna find out. On Trump, I will tell you this, Trump is brilliant at a lot of things. One of the things he's brilliant of is he takes something that he had, he knows he's got an issue, and he puts it on other people. He takes his weakness, he takes his vulnerability, and he puts it on other people. I think Trump was getting ahead of the Epstein thing, knowing, hey, I'm all over that thing too.

• 42:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I think the other side is much better at it than that. I, I think, I think in that side, for him to do that, you know how many times CNN has to apologize? And say, it's right, they did kick him off. He did kick off, he kicked out Epstein, Abby had to do it. Then I think a week ago, a guy on CNN came out and said, a proven human trafficker, whatever, and he said it twice. He had Scott Jennings called him out, he had to come out and apologize. He was just on Pierce Morgan yesterday, found 50 different ways to apologize, cuz he knows if the president wanted to sue, he can. If you're, if you're not afraid, if you're not afraid of what you've done, you'll sue. And then you have to go through discovery.

• 43:40Patrick Bet-David?

  So if, if the guy is playing that much, I'm not telling he hasn't done it in his career. I think that's actually playbook from the other side that happens a lot. He just came out, can you imagine, like, what are you doing bringing the girls out during the debate with Hillary Clinton? You, if you do that, you have to know, the next day, they could bring 50 girls on you. Who was E. Jean Carroll? This morning I was watching E. Jean Carroll's interview with Anderson Cooper, and he's like, you know, so what is rape to you? Rape is not physical. It's, it's a fantasy. And he's like, we're gonna go to a break. I, you're, Anderson, you're fascinating. You're fascinating, right? All these dumb stories that they try to put on him. So I think that game, I believe Hillary's much better at it than Trump.

• 44:25Patrick Bet-David?

  And look at this year, look at the score right here. People trust Bill Clinton. They do not trust Hillary Clinton. 3,500 people, yeah, they do not.

• 44:32Speaker 02

  But regarding Epstein or overall?

• 44:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, that's what they're saying. The, I mean, what's the topic we're talking about? By the way, just to say one thing here to everybody that's watching this. I've been in the insurance business for 20 some years, okay? Love the industry, life changing. If you're watching this and you wanna insure yourself, do yourself a favor and go buy the shirt allegedly. Because when you're going through moments like this, never has there been a more important time to walk around making sure everybody knows you lean on the word allegedly, because that's the biggest insurance policy you can have nowadays, as long as you use the word allegedly. So if you want to protect yourself, go to VTmerch.com,

• 45:15Patrick Bet-David?

  get yourself an allegedly shirt or a hat, walk around at work with your family, with your friends, and just say, allegedly, this is what I heard, you will be protected, just like many others do, wearing the allegedly gear, and it is one of the greatest conversation starters. No matter where you're at, people look at you, they smile, and it goes on.

• 45:34Speaker 02

  I'm curious, in a court of law, in a court of law, Jared, you would know this, if you're wearing that shirt and you're talking just out of your butt and you're saying crazy stuff, in court, he's like, hey, I didn't say it out loud, but the shirt is saying it.

• 45:46Speaker 04

  Some people are saying.

• 45:48Speaker 02

  Can I ask you a follow-up question? Because I feel like you're a good person to answer this. Let's be completely logical and rational right now. Everyone wants to go, oh, he's Epstein pedophile. Forget about that. Forget about the pedophilia. Forget about the girls. Let's just go completely logical and pragmatic. What do all these rich, famous, powerful people want or need from Epstein? Forget about the girls, forget about the partying, let's go down the rabbit hole, Congressman, I'd love to get your... What do they need from this guy? Why is everyone trying to get involved with him? Because just as much as he's approaching them, hey, can I come? Can I... What's going on? So what do you think is actually happening going on?

• 46:21Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll let Jared answer this.

• 46:22Speaker 04

  I mean, I think that's, nobody knows, right? Because like, if we say, well, we all know what they wanted, that means they're all guilty. That means they're all guilty, right? Which, I don't think we can say that, right? I don't think that's fair to say, like, they're all guilty. But, nobody knows. Now, look, in the realm of politics and business, people are always raising money, you got access to funds, you got access to this guy, it becomes a networking thing. But, by the way, maybe someone should tell us. Maybe one of these people who are in there, right? Who says, you know, I never went to the island, I wasn't interested in girls, then why were you talking to him? Was he connecting you to somebody else? Was it a business deal? I mean, Elon's in there, that looks like that may have been, you know, some sort of dollars, business deal.

• 47:05Speaker 04

  Tell us, Elon, why were you talking to Epstein? What was that about? Right? If it wasn't about the girls.

• 47:11Speaker 02

  You made a great point.

• 47:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I think, I think it's a, look, Trump's interview with Lex Friedman. When he says, how come more friends don't run for office? Well, most people don't know how to, more billionaires don't run for office. He says, you can make all the mon- he says, there's a lot of billionaires that people don't know around the world. There's a lot of billionaires that they walk past you and you just thought they were a regular person. They have 2.8 billion dollars in the bank. No one knows. This is what Vinnie deals with every day. I hate it. It's like, oh. There are a lot of billionaires that are not cool. They just have money, truly.

• 47:41Speaker 04

  Is he still talking about you?

• 47:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Right? They're, they're not, they're not famous. They want fame. Now flip it. There are a lot of famous broke people out there that want money. It's like, listen, man, I got 6.8 billion followers, but dude, I got 28 grand on a bank. I'm broke. Everything I make, I spend, I have to live this lavish lifestyle with the Aventador and the Patek and the Hublot and the RM and all this stuff to show. But dude, I'm broke. So what can you help me, right? And then, and then you have guys that, uh, uh, stuff that they do in their private lives outside of their marriage that, you know, they don't want somebody else to know. You want someone to allow you to have that access. That's some of these guys with, uh, who's a billionaire guy, guy that paid him 172 million dollars and Leon Black, I believe. Leon Black allegedly, again, shout out to allegedly. Good usage of that word, yeah, for sure.

• 48:27Patrick Bet-David?

  A hundred or something. So that is more, hey, what do I do with this situation, right? To everybody, it's different. But what does work, and it's a proven business model since day one. Blackmail is a incredible, incredible business model, which by the way, he knows. Who do you think are Epstein's number one customers? In my opinion, Epstein's number one customers are, are governments, are intel agencies. All of those guys. And by the way, a, a part of it, like where I'm at, like, and, and I want to move to the next story, which is Keir Starmer, and then we can go into exiting this Epstein stuff, because there's a lot of stuff going on there. This is what I tell you, Vinnie.

• 49:09Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, uh, uh, uh, with kids. Say you got four kids and all of them screwed up, but they all tell each other, listen, we're not gonna tell dad, okay? We're not gonna tell who did that. In my old office, Mario will remember this, a guy named Leo will remember this, Robert Tassia will remember this. One day, I'm in my office, I come out and a massive fight breaks out in the office. Something happens. And everybody I come outside, they see I'm outside, I'm looking at them. So what happened? Nothing. I said, what was that sound? Nothing, what sound? So what do you what sound? What was that sound? We don't know what you're talking about. Vinny, they're looking at me as if like.

• 49:53Speaker 05

  You're dumb.

• 49:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Nothing happened.

• 49:54Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 49:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Then one time, there's an event in oh seven in Orlando. We go to Orlando, that night, these guys party till five o'clock in the morning. The next day, the meeting starts at eight AM. They all come in and Vinny, they're looking at each other as if like, I'm looking at him. Why is this guy yawning 10 minutes into the meeting? He can't stay up. And when Mario would have, if you started the meeting, talking about finance and economy and market, Mario's knocked out within 30 seconds. He just wants to talk about human nature. And I said, guys, what'd you guys do last night? No, nothing. We were, we went to sleep early. We, we had a meeting, we went to sleep early. They never wanted to leak anything. Till today, I still don't fully know exactly what happened.

• 50:36Patrick Bet-David?

  All I've heard is secondhand information, but if one of them leaks, then it's like, well, you brought the beer, well, you brought this, well, you brought that, well, you told us, you brought the driver, you took us to the club.

• 50:47Speaker 05

  You brought the Spider-Man.

• 50:48Patrick Bet-David?

  So the point is, the point is, the moment one goes.

• 50:53Speaker 05

  It's all done.

• 50:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Everyone's gonna go. And, and it, you know, you ever watch Domino's when the first one goes and then boom? 60 next Domino's fall and you see those big ones that happen. If one fully comes out openly, I'm guilty, but let me tell you what I'm about to do.

• 51:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, boom, you know, boom, boom, like almost the scent of a woman. What, what is the three boys names?

• 51:17Speaker 02

  Yo, out there, you two calling everybody out in the crowd.

• 51:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Even Tupac coming out to calling everybody out, then he got killed, right? Right after that. So I think that hasn't happened yet.

• 51:26Speaker 04

  We talking about Hit Em Up? We talking about the song Hit Em Up? I love that word.

• 51:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I think that's where we are. I think if one guy comes out, the flood gets gonna open up.

• 51:34Speaker 02

  I think you're a million percent right. Let me give you a little maybe pushback. If nobody flipped yet, why would they flip? It's almost like we've been holding out for 10 years, 20 years.

• 51:45Patrick Bet-David?

  If they're as good as my guys, if they're as good as my guys, they're never gonna tell me what happened in Orlando.

• 51:50Speaker 02

  Who bought the beers, PPD?

• 51:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if they're, because you know who you are. They're watching from all over the country.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  Allegedly, allegedly.

• 51:57Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to the next story here. Keir Starmer. Okay, UK Starmer admits he knew of relationship between Epstein and ex ambassador Mandelson. Rob, can you show the picture of this guy, Mandelson, that came out that everybody's like?

• 52:12Speaker 02

  Very flattering.

• 52:13Patrick Bet-David?

  That is a, I mean, listen, folks, there's a lot of pictures that can come out. And look, we all have embarrassing pictures, all of us do, right? But this one's pretty bad. Oh, Rob, this is not doing it justice.

• 52:24Speaker 02

  Oh, the lighting.

• 52:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, the lighting on this, but he is in a, he's wearing a shirt and just with his underwear, and that's Mandelson allegedly, and Keir Starmer knows that he knew of this relationship. By the way, right after this came out, did he resign? I thought he resigned. He stepped down or something, right?

• 52:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, he was removed.

• 52:41Patrick Bet-David?

  He was removed. Okay, Rob, is this it with him talking about it? Go for it.

• 53:12Speaker 00

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• 53:42Speaker 00

  Can the Prime Minister tell us, did the official security vetting he received mention Mandelson's ongoing relationship with the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein?

• 53:54Speaker 02

  Prime Minister? Yes, it did.

• 53:58Speaker 02

  As a result, various questions were put to him. I intend to disclose to this House, all of the national security, prejudice to international relations on one side. I want to make sure this House sees the full documentation. So it will see for itself the extent to which, the extent to which time and time again, Mandelson completely misrepresented the extent of his relationship with Epstein and lied throughout the process, including in response to the due diligence.

• 54:38Speaker 00

  Mr. Speaker, I think it is shocking what the Prime Minister has just said. How can he stand up there saying that he knew, but he just asked Peter Mandelson if the security vetting was true or false? This is a man who had been sacked from Cabinet twice already for unethical behaviour. That is absolutely shocking. And that is why later today, my party will call on the government to release all documents relating to Mandelson's appointment.

• 55:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause this? I can listen to this accent.

• 55:08Speaker 04

  I love, I was just... Have you ever gone? I went. I've never been in it. So this is called, it used to be called Question Hour with the Prime Minister. Now it's called Question Time because it doesn't... I've gone to this. They do it with such poise. Like, I remember the questioning and she's like, you know, just because you're the head of child services doesn't mean you should act like a child, you know? And it's just so well done. Like, listen how they're talking about Epstein.

• 55:35Patrick Bet-David?

  You think he's gonna step down?

• 55:36Speaker 04

  Well, I mean, if you're watching that, I think that went extraordinarily well for him. I mean, I don't whether he steps down or not, I mean, this looks like they're gonna continue to pull that thread.

• 55:46Speaker 05

  I just love that you nailed it. Like, think about it. When we say pedophile, it's like an indictment. There, they're like pedophile. It almost sounds like Pedalite. Like, it's like a drink. But I think, and you made a great point about the, like, these are, we're talking about Keir Starmer, and one of the things that you said about the, um, the blackmail, he, Ehud Barak was on the call, calling him, asking him, think about this, and the first thing that Jeffrey Epstein said is, who owes you, who owes you their life, who owes you favors? He was almost like a consultant, because he probably recorded everybody in those rooms where he had cameras, and that was such a, that was, it's the blackmail, and why everybody went there thinking, Adam, I'm a president, I'm a prime minister, I can go to this island, nobody's ever gonna know, they're not recording it, these emails are never gonna come to light.

• 56:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Will he step down?

• 56:32Speaker 05

  Will he?

• 56:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Will he step down?

• 56:33Speaker 05

  I think so. I think with this, he's gonna have to. Besides, the invasion that he let happen, uh, in, in, in England, this is, this is it for him. I think this is it.

• 56:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think most people in the US don't realize, um, is, is what the position here and what it meant. Um, so Peter Mendelson was known as a fixer and a spin doctor for Tony Blair. And under Tony Blair, he was known as a prince of darkness.

• 56:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, shit.

• 56:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Because they really thought that he had, you know, that he was the wrong guy to piss off, he was the wrong thing to do. And he petitioned hard for the third most powerful position in British government. You know what that is? Ambassador to the United States. That, they say, is the third most powerful position. Never mind the monarchy, they don't do anything. Somebody dies, they bring a wreath. And Tony Blair, you have your prime minister and the laws of Britain and all that goes with it, but ambassador to the United States is huge. What also was in the Epstein files was what happened. Mendelson told Epstein about the $500 billion Eurozone bond bailout.

• 57:44Tom Ellsworth?

  And Epstein supposedly, allegedly traded on that in his accounts with all the foundation accounts. So you've got Starmer's guy was leaking to Epstein? This is global bond markets that are, it's half a trillion dollars. And so you see that happening and then you see the rest of the pictures and everything. And this was just a bad guy. And I happen to agree with the woman that was challenging Starmer.

• 58:16Tom Ellsworth?

  In that, all you did was ask, okay, you're not really into this, are you? Wouldn't you do, Pat, if we hire a director of marketing, we do a background check. We call references, right? You're telling me all you did, okay, give me your word. Give me your word, this Epstein rumor is not there. So Starmer either did incomplete research or was lied to upfront, found out later, but then did nothing. And now when the box is open and everybody can look inside, Starmer's coming out. But you have to remember, this is a big deal. He was ambassador to the United States.

• 58:55Patrick Bet-David?

  If you say he worked directly with Blair, on that call with Epstein, okay? When he was talking to Ehud Barak, Tony Blair's name came up. And he said XYZ company pays him 2 million a year. What was the company that, was it a telecommunications company that paid him 2 million a year, Rob? You remember that, that they talked about? He says XYZ pays Tony Blair 2 or 3 million a year for a board seat. So I don't know how deep, if this guy knows anything about Blair's connection with Epstein, if he worked that closely with them, I mean, this can go even deeper now, Tom, than just, you know, with Keir Starmer stepping down.

• 59:36Patrick Bet-David?

  It can go back to Tony Blair and Tony Blair, wasn't he just assigned on the project on rebuilding of Gaza or something? Wasn't he given a job that had to do with Gaza?

• 59:44Tom Ellsworth?

  On the Board of Peace, right?

• 59:46Patrick Bet-David?

  The Board of Peace with Kushner, I believe, and Whitkoff, if I'm not mistaken. Adam, where are you at with this?

• 59:53Speaker 02

  So with this situation with Keir Starmer.

• 59:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 59:57Speaker 02

  So let's get one thing clear. These lords in British politics mean nothing. Lord, you could do the most scandalous, ridiculous, sensationalist things ever. People who are named lords very rarely lose their title. So we saw Prince Andrew, what happened with him, he was a prince. Lord, what was he called? Lord Mendelssohn? Lord Farquhar, there you go. Jeffrey Archer was Lord Jeffrey Archer. This guy went to jail for perjury. Famously did not lose his lordship. So who she is, are you familiar with who she is? She's basically the highest ranking, I want to say, member of the Conservative Party. So it'd be the equivalent of like a black female Conservative now running the Republican Party.

• 1:00:42Speaker 02

  So imagine if Candace Owens, pre-going off the Richter scale, was the face of the new Republican establishment. So this is, if you know anything about the Tories and Conservatives in the UK, that's the party of Churchill. They've done nothing but destroyed UK. That the longest-serving power players in UK history, the British people are like, "We are so done with you. We're gonna elect this absolute socialist weirdo Keir Starmer." And look where they are now with this. Yeah, she's like Speaker of the House, or Senate Majority Leader. Sensible and basically saying, "Listen, we're not standing for this." She's almost like reinventing the Conservative Party in the UK, and God knows they need it.

• 1:01:26Speaker 04

  By the way, that was like the easiest question and answer. I don't even think she thought it was gonna be so easy. "Please tell me, this wasn't, you know, you didn't know this?" And he goes, "I knew."

• 1:01:37Speaker 04

  She was like, "Oh."

• 1:01:39Speaker 02

  Oh, wow, that was easy.

• 1:01:40Speaker 04

  We didn't expect that to be so quick.

• 1:01:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, why do you think he did that, though? Because if they said, "By the end of the day today, we're gonna be requesting for all communication", she was gonna find out that there's communication anyways.

• 1:01:50Speaker 04

  But who's been fired? I mean, he's gotta, look, it's gonna be him if he doesn't fire people who handled this for him. Right? I mean, so if he doesn't fire the team that handled this, it's gonna be him.

• 1:02:01Speaker 02

  He's also the opposite of Trump. He's not built for these moments, the bright lights, and he's like, "Ah, I confess." Where Trump would be like, "You know me, I would never do something like that. It was this guy over here, what a loser." He's just not built for the bright lights, and he just basically admitted... To hiring this guy.

• 1:02:18Speaker 04

  Well, Trump would also, Trump would also go on the offense and would have looked at her and said, I don't like your smile.

• 1:02:22Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 1:02:23Speaker 04

  Terrible question.

• 1:02:24Speaker 02

  But in politics, you have to do this. So now they're talking about, what did, what does Kalshi say the odds are that he's going to step down at this point?

• 1:02:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Before September 1st.

• 1:02:32Tom Ellsworth?

  60.

• 1:02:32Patrick Bet-David?

  60%.

• 1:02:33Speaker 02

  So basically flip a coin, if not more, this guy's out over this scandal?

• 1:02:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:02:39Speaker 02

  He didn't do anything wrong. He wasn't on the island.

• 1:02:42Patrick Bet-David?

  He knew.

• 1:02:43Speaker 02

  But he knew.

• 1:02:43Patrick Bet-David?

  He knew.

• 1:02:44Speaker 02

  So dominoes are going to fall.

• 1:02:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, what happened to Penn State, uh, uh, coach?

• 1:02:48Speaker 02

  Joe Pa?

• 1:02:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, what happened to him?

• 1:02:50Speaker 02

  Sandusky?

• 1:02:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:52Speaker 02

  Cause he knew about when Sandusky was doing.

• 1:02:54Patrick Bet-David?

  He knew. He, he knew.

• 1:02:56Speaker 02

  But he was on his way out anyway. He was like 90 years old.

• 1:02:58Patrick Bet-David?

  But I mean.

• 1:02:58Speaker 02

  This guy's in his first term.

• 1:03:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I get that. I get that.

• 1:03:01Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, Pat, this is yesterday and look what happens at 4:40 PM.

• 1:03:06Speaker 04

  When he answers the question.

• 1:03:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Boom.

• 1:03:07Speaker 04

  Bingo.

• 1:03:08Tom Ellsworth?

  When he answers the question.

• 1:03:09Speaker 02

  See that green line?

• 1:03:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep. Yep.

• 1:03:11Speaker 02

  So where was it prior to yesterday, Tom?

• 1:03:13Speaker 05

  Low.

• 1:03:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Nothing.

• 1:03:14Speaker 05

  It was like 10, nothing, zero.

• 1:03:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Irrelevant. It wasn't even a topic of discussion.

• 1:03:18Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:03:18Patrick Bet-David?

  That he's going to be stepping down.

• 1:03:19Speaker 02

  So just how quickly markets can change.

• 1:03:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, well, let's talk about markets. You're talking about markets. Let me explain to you what happened yesterday. Bitcoin, Rob, where's Bitcoin at right now? Bitcoin crashes to around 60,000 as historic free fall worsens. 68,000 is back up a little bit. Prices down over 50% over four months. Uh, uh, this week equities, yesterday equities, nearly 600 billion dollars lost in equities because of AI. Uh, uh, I think crypto this week lost five, 600 billion dollars, $2 trillion since the high in October. Tom, what's going on over here?

• 1:03:54Tom Ellsworth?

  So what has happened is remember crypto, you know, crypto? Well, guess what? It's going to be a hedge against inflation. It's going to be an alternative to fiat. It's going to go this way when the markets go that way. And now here we have the big test. We've got layoffs. We've got gold. We've got the US dollar weakening. We've got a K-shaped economy where the consumer is increasingly under stress. Credit card, uh, debt at the highest of all time, one, almost 1.3 trillion dollars right now, whereas Wall Street with PE, especially in tech, has been doing okay. And so we're all waiting for the shoe to drop. The shoe to drop is the, the market and some economic things and some layoffs and everything. And all of a sudden. Bitcoin goes with it. Bitcoin was supposed to be different.

• 1:04:39Tom Ellsworth?

  And so what right now we're trying to figure out, Pat. Remember what everybody said, just don't worry about it. Get a little bit of Bitcoin. It's an inflation hedge. It's an inflation hedge. That was one of the core selling points. Well, now, when things go sideways, wait a minute. This is two years of increases have gone down. I this morning it said, if I'm correct, October 2024, it was 66. It's gone on a run, so it's return and it's given back two years of gain.

• 1:05:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to five year max, Rob. Go to five year if you could.

• 1:05:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, and then go to max.

• 1:05:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, go, yeah, there you go. You see where it is there? And I'll go back over 2024. That's right. All of that, a little more, a little more. October 2024, up, up, up, up, up.

• 1:05:25Tom Ellsworth?

  2024.

• 1:05:28Tom Ellsworth?

  There you go. There we are, right there. So that everything since October 24 is gone. And so all of it, it's like, we're finding out, will the real Bitcoin please stand up? Are you an inflation hedge? It's going to be stable over time? Are you alternative to Fiat? Are you just another speculation stock? That is going to react to the market, react to gold, react to inflation? And right now, it looks like you're just, it's, it's reacting to that. Now, there's a lot of Bitcoin people are going to say, this is temporary, Tom. You don't know what you're talking about. But rather than being stable and do the things that they said it's going to do, that all the proponents were together and saying, you know, it's, it's difficult. It's like, okay, the people have put their trust in it.

• 1:06:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me ask you this. In the last week, have you bought any crypto?

• 1:06:20Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 1:06:21Patrick Bet-David?

  You haven't bought any? Okay, so you haven't taken advantage of the discount that's going on right now?

• 1:06:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Before the sun sets today, I'm going to.

• 1:06:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, got it. So I just bought a bunch of XRP and Bitcoin yesterday. And I bought it, and I bought a bunch when it dropped to whatever the number was in the 80s, you know, high 70s, 80s. And to me, the, the part about dollar cost averaging. Is it so easy to teach, but it's so hard to execute?

• 1:06:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, your emotions betray you on dark days.

• 1:06:53Patrick Bet-David?

  It's so hard to execute. We can get in front of a board and teach our 13-year-old son, "Son, let me tell you how dollar-cost averaging works. If you invest $100 and the stock is $10, you get 10 shares. It goes to 15, you get 6 shares. But if it drops to 5 and you're scared and you buy, you get 20 shares. And the average between the 3 becomes $13. And so now you're there." But then when it happens to you, you're like, "Oh, I don't know if I'm on a dollar-cost average." Boom, you missed it. It went back to 92. You could have bought it at 62. You could have bought it at 65. So here's a part about-

• 1:07:25Tom Ellsworth?

  What do they say? The scared man becomes a day trader?

• 1:07:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, it does. And by the way, what I'm, you know, I say this, you know, the long-term thinkers, when short-term thinkers get destroyed, long-term thinkers are able to go through the emotional difficulties of investment. Something goes up, something goes down, long-term, everything ends up working out for the long-term thinker. But this is really scaring the crap of a lot of people. This is scaring the crap out of a lot of people. Jared, where are you with this?

• 1:07:56Speaker 04

  Well, I mean, look, I think, you know, the American people on a whole, right, are not invested in Bitcoin and crypto. To your point, this was supposed to be detached from everything else. It was supposed to be the hedge. That's what we constantly heard. But there's a lot of establishment investment now in here. There's a lot of-

• 1:08:12Patrick Bet-David?

  That's true.

• 1:08:12Speaker 04

  -regular, big Wall Street that came into there. I still don't understand the Michael Saylor thing. I mean, I follow, you know, micro-strategies.

• 1:08:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Seven, 800,000 now?

• 1:08:22Speaker 04

  Okay, and I don't understand, you know, how that whole thing works. But so far, I mean, you know, his stock, I think, is higher than Bitcoin. And he owns Bitcoin. So I don't understand how the company could, you know, the value, the company's doing better than Bitcoin's doing when the thing you own is being devalued. And so you talk to a lot of people who talk about these downward trends that happen in Bitcoin, that there's a cycle that happens. They talk about these- And so far it's following the cycle, but it did go lower than the 60,000 threshold. They said if it hits 60,000, you know, that should be the end of the cycle.

• 1:09:06Speaker 04

  Now it's it's up again.

• 1:09:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:09:08Speaker 04

  So let's see, let's see now if it.

• 1:09:10Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a whole different school of thought that they say it could hit as low as six uh 26,000 to match the drops it's had over the years. And and then from 26, it's gonna go to 250, 500, it's kind of what they're talking about.

• 1:09:24Speaker 04

  By the way, if it goes, the margin calls that are gonna happen at 26,000.

• 1:09:27Patrick Bet-David?

  You're right.

• 1:09:28Speaker 04

  Oh, my lord.

• 1:09:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You're right. Yeah, that's by the way, have you ever had a margin call?

• 1:09:31Speaker 04

  I don't have enough money to do that.

• 1:09:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I had a margin call, but I was 25 years old when I got a margin call, when I had no money. And I put, I don't know what it was, $5,000, whatever, to buy some Nike stocks. And then I said, you know, E-Trade came out and they said, you know, you can use this to get XYZ and $15,000. And I'm like, no way.

• 1:09:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, I did it. Let me tell you, when it dropped, I don't know, it was a handful of stocks I own. They're calling you, you're saying, and I'm like, how the hell am I gonna pay this? You act like you have 15,000, but you only have 5,000. So it's allowing you to use credit, which is wonderful.

• 1:10:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:10:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Cause you're doubling and tripling without your money. It's like you're using credit card money margin call. But when you get, you ever seen the movie Margin Call?

• 1:10:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:10:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you have you seen the movie?

• 1:10:22Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:10:23Tom Ellsworth?

  With Kevin Spacey.

• 1:10:24Speaker 04

  Kevin Spacey's in it.

• 1:10:24Tom Ellsworth?

  At the very end.

• 1:10:25Speaker 04

  My dog died.

• 1:10:26Patrick Bet-David?

  What a movie.

• 1:10:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Great movie.

• 1:10:28Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, that anxiety in that movie, that's how it feels.

• 1:10:31Speaker 04

  Oh, man.

• 1:10:32Patrick Bet-David?

  And and this, he's right, if it's 26,000, it's gonna be some interesting people.

• 1:10:35Speaker 04

  You're already seeing some, I mean, there's already margin calling happening. And and so what's happening is other people are having to liquidate other assets, right? So that they have capital to pay the margin.

• 1:10:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:10:46Speaker 04

  So if this does continue to tank, it's gonna bring down other stocks with it as people liquidate out of those.

• 1:10:52Speaker 02

  Well, if you actually are a long-term investor, this is a good day for you because you can go buy some stuff. I've learned over the years that what goes up must come down. So you know who knows what's going on in the market tomorrow? Absolutely nobody. If Michael Saylor doesn't know what's going on with Bitcoin, believe me, your Uber driver has no clue. The guy that's like, "Bro, I just invested in XRP."

• 1:11:16Patrick Bet-David?

  There is somebody that knows what's going on in the market.

• 1:11:17Speaker 02

  Who's that?

• 1:11:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Nancy Pelosi.

• 1:11:19Speaker 02

  Maybe.

• 1:11:19Patrick Bet-David?

  She sold PayPal. She sold... Wait a minute, did you not see the story?

• 1:11:23Speaker 02

  What'd she do now?

• 1:11:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you see the story? Nancy Pelosi sold PayPal way before PayPal was going down.

• 1:11:30Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:11:30Patrick Bet-David?

  She knew something.

• 1:11:31Speaker 02

  How would she know that?

• 1:11:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you tell... Am I reading the story incorrectly?

• 1:11:34Speaker 02

  No, no, no, you're correct.

• 1:11:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do I feel like I read the story?

• 1:11:37Speaker 02

  Two weeks. Two weeks before it announces.

• 1:11:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Zoom in a little bit, Rob, my eyes. Yes, based on financial disclosure, Nancy Pelosi reported, "A sale of PayPal Holdings took place December 30th. Pelosi sold 5,000 shares of PayPal. The transaction valued $250,000 to $500,000. The sale occurred just before Sharp declined off 27% by selling in late December. The transaction allowed the Pelosi household to avoid a potential loss of over $90,000."

• 1:12:05Speaker 02

  She has the eight ball.

• 1:12:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, that's what I'm saying. So unless if your name is not Nancy Pelosi and you don't have access to autopilot, where autopilot allows you to match the exact investments that Nancy Pelosi had... I don't know if you've ever done autopilot or not. I've seen it on YouTube. Follow it, yeah. And by the way. Tom's a millionaire now. Autopilot... Tom made money, right? Autopilot runs ads on Tom. I don't know if you've seen this or not. They did, yeah. Yeah, that's right. So Adam, to correct you, please give credit to Nancy Pelosi.

• 1:12:37Speaker 02

  Okay, so other than God and Nancy Pelosi, nobody knows what's gonna happen in the market. Here's what I tell people, Pat. I think we're on the same page with long-term thinking. If you want safe and security, think of it like a theme perk. You want to be safe, go on the merry-go-round, buddy. You want investing, you want risk and reward? Go on the roller coaster. Now, the only time you're gonna die, if you go on the roller coaster, you've tried to jump off the ride in the middle of the ride. So I bought Bitcoin, I think, 20 many years ago. People are telling me, "Oh dude, it's gonna go to 100." Then I bought it at 40 again. I'm just looking at it on sale right now. I asked, you know, Adrian and all my friends are in the Bitcoin space. Six months ago, I go, "You see this all-time high?" I go, "What's the lowest we're ever gonna see again?" 80,000, bro. I go, "80,000?"

• 1:13:21Speaker 02

  Maybe 78. I text him today, "Buddy, we're at 60." You don't know nothing. I make, you know how we bust each other's balls? Yo, you're an idiot. All my Bitcoin friends, you don't know anything. "Oh, it's the Bitcoin halving. You have to stand, there's only 21 million." Dude, you don't know anything. Nobody knows anything. If you're a long-term thinker, long-term investor, or a hodler, what are they called? Hold on for dear life. Versus a long-term holder, that this is a great thing for you. Dollar-cost average and buy. If you're scared, if you're these people like the XRP, how many people did you talk to were like, "Yeah, I don't own any crypto, I don't own any assets, but I'm an XRP guy." Do you even know what they do? Do you have that video of what our friend Max did, Pat?

• 1:14:05Speaker 02

  Tell me if you saw this video yet regarding XRP and all the people who are Ripple people? I don't know if... There you go, Rob.

• 1:14:16Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you talking about?

• 1:14:17Speaker 02

  I really wish Rob had this pulled up. I sent it to him about 10 minutes ago, but... Rob, it's in a text, but thanks, buddy. You thumbed it up and everything.

• 1:14:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't let him talk to you like that, Rob. Yeah, seriously, Rob.

• 1:14:28Speaker 02

  Don't thumb it up, Rob. So here's, can I tee this up? Here are XRP holders and Ripple holders right now.

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• 1:15:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Where's my money, motherfucker? Where's my money?

• 1:15:44Speaker 02

  Guys, all these people invested in XRP because they thought that they were going to get rich. And what's the famous saying? Buy the rumors, sell the news. When your Uber driver is giving you advice on XRP, get out ASAP.

• 1:15:56Speaker 04

  You keep bringing up the Uber driver.

• 1:15:58Speaker 02

  I take a lot of Ubers, that's why.

• 1:15:59Speaker 04

  Well, do you talk to them about finance?

• 1:16:01Speaker 02

  No, they barely speak English, but that's my point. They barely speak English and they're recommending Ripple.

• 1:16:06Speaker 04

  But by the way, if you look at Bitcoin, talking about the long-term investor, okay? If you didn't take any money off the table, you're back where you started if you got in in the last year. Right? So, you know, when Biden, when Trump got elected, that's when the huge run-up happened. It happened, it started happening in '24, not in '25. He gets elected, the huge run-up happens. So, if you owned it at 60,000, 65,000, if you bought it right before the election and you didn't take any money off the table, you're right back where you started. So, you know, this idea that, oh, I'm in it for the long haul. Well, if it's a roller coaster, then you gotta take money out before the drop happens if that's going to be a consistent thing with it.

• 1:16:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and it seems to be that there is a pattern with it. It doesn't react like everybody thought it was going to react to the way that gold reacts. They don't react the same way. And this year was a confusing thing because gold went up. What is the price of gold right now, Rob? If we look it up?

• 1:17:03Speaker 04

  Do we need to text it to you, Rob?

• 1:17:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. 4983. By the way.

• 1:17:08Speaker 04

  You sent that at 9 o'clock.

• 1:17:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you do me a favor, Rob? Pull up your Manect... QR code, do you have it or no?

• 1:17:13Speaker 02

  I do not.

• 1:17:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, guys, pull up your manekto, pull up your manekto so people see your handle. Folks, if you don't appreciate Rob G getting bullied by Adam the way that he is, can you go send him a manek right now? Rob, put the link below in the chat.

• 1:17:29Speaker 04

  Rob, that's the photo.

• 1:17:31Speaker 05

  That's a good photo of him.

• 1:17:34Speaker 04

  By the way, if we remove the name and said that photo was in a file that we looked at. Just saying.

• 1:17:39Speaker 05

  It's called Fitz the profile.

• 1:17:41Speaker 04

  Like Rob, like if I was literally looking for a babysitter and I was going through.

• 1:17:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't let him do this to you, Rob.

• 1:17:46Speaker 02

  I'm fine.

• 1:17:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't let him do this to you.

• 1:17:47Speaker 04

  I would send that photo in.

• 1:17:48Speaker 02

  Listen, Rob, nobody's immune from the ball boss.

• 1:17:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's talk about Iran, let's talk about Iran. Okay, Trump says Iran's Ayatollah should be very worried. Okay, let's see, page 25, Rob, I do think you have a clip on this one and I think there's a tweet as well from the White House yesterday. President Trump warned that Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei should be very worried during an interview on Friday. On Wednesday, he made rising tensions between Washington and Tehran. Here's the President.

• 1:18:20Speaker 02

  The Supreme Leader in Iran be worried right now?

• 1:18:24Tom Ellsworth?

  I would say he should be very worried, yeah, he should be. As you know, they're negotiating with us.

• 1:18:29Speaker 02

  I know they are, but the protesters have said, you know, where are the Americans? You promised them we would have their back, do we still have their back?

• 1:18:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, we've had their back and look, that country's a mess right now because of us. We went in, we wiped out their nuclear. So I didn't take out, you know, we have peace in the Middle East. If I didn't take out their nuclear, think of it, if we didn't take out that nuclear, we wouldn't have peace in the Middle East because the Arab countries could have never done that. They were very, very afraid of Iran.

• 1:18:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:18:57Tom Ellsworth?

  They're not afraid of Iran anymore. We wiped out those beautiful B2 bombers, ones right over there, those beautiful little models, those beautiful B2.

• 1:19:06Speaker 05

  Two bombers went in and they hit their target, every single bomb and obliterated it. And because of that, they were gonna have a nuclear weapon within one month. Yeah. Within one month, they were gonna have a nuclear weapon. Yeah. That was a big threat, that they're not gonna have it anymore. But if we obliterated, what's the deal about? I mean, if there's no more, are they, are they trying to restart the nuclear program? Well, I heard that they are, and if they do, and I let them know, if they do, we're gonna send them right back and do their job again. So you're understanding that they tried to restart it, and that's why you're threatening force? They tried to go back to the site, they weren't even able to get near it, there was total obliteration. But they were thinking about starting a new site in a different part of the country.

• 1:19:47Speaker 05

  We found out about it, I said, you do that, we're gonna do very bad things to you.

• 1:19:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Rob, do you have the tweet as well, where they're saying to stay away from Iran if you're American, leave in early February 2026. The US Virtual Embassy in Iran issued a warning repeating that Americans should leave Iran now, if possible. Have a plan for departing Iran that does not rely on US government help. Flight cancellations and disruptions are possible with little warning. Check directly with the airline for updates. If you cannot leave, find a secure location with your residence or another safe building, have a supply of food, water, medications, and other essential items. It just came out yesterday. Avoid demonstrations, keep a low profile, and stay aware of your surroundings.

• 1:20:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Monitor local media for breaking news, be prepared to adjust your plans, keep your phone charged, and maintain communication with family and friends to inform them of your status. This is not a regular warning, folks, that's being given to people. Jared, what's your thoughts?

• 1:20:48Tom Ellsworth?

  I like the avoid demonstration part.

• 1:20:49Speaker 04

  Well, I mean, you know, let me say a couple of things on Iran, because I'm pretty hawkish. You know, I supported the president launching the B-2 bombers after Israel had taken out the air capabilities, the air defenses that Iran had, and going out and taking out those facilities. I think that was the right decision. We've been talking about it for years. Obama talked about Iran having a nuclear weapon. Clinton talked about Iran having a, George W. Bush talked about it, and you know what they all agreed? Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. So for 20 years, we've agreed that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Trump was the first one to do something about it and, and launch the attack. I supported that. I do think thou, now is not the time to back out. Right? We told the Iranian people we were coming to help.

• 1:21:32Speaker 04

  Now, I'm not for boots on the ground, that I don't think will be successful. But this idea that we can enter another JCPOA with them? No, no, no. I was against the first JCPOA. And if we're gonna be consistent, it can't be like, oh, we were against it when Obama did it, but when Trump does it, we're gonna be for it. This can't just be about nuclear weapons. It has to be about, how do we help the Iranian people go forward? Now, you know more about this than, than anybody, okay? This isn't just like what happened in Venezuela, where if you just take out the supreme leader, like, everything else will be fine. No, there's a whole list of people that come after that. So this is a lot more complicated. Now, the Iranians only wanna talk about nuclear. That's, that's, that's their negotiating team has said, we're not talking about ballistic

• 1:22:14Speaker 04

  missiles, we're not talking about, you know, the people and their rights. Now, look, if we can, through a deal, right? Get some of those things, I'm very interested. But if the deal is only on nuclear weapons, then, then it's JCPOA all over again. And you know what? If I'm the supreme ayatollah, you know what my goal is, even though he's an old man? My goal is, I just gotta survive three years. I just gotta get past Trump. I'll get him into a deal, I'll get past Trump, cuz the next guy- I agree. The next guy ain't gonna do this. I agree. And Trump can't fall for it. Now, I, he's got people around him, I think Marco is leading him in the right direction. Vance sometimes concerns me cuz he's an isolationist. But, but Trump's gotta recognize, it's him or nobody.

• 1:22:57Speaker 04

  I mean, that's, that's where we're at when it comes to Iran. Like Trump, don't like Trump, they look at Trump as crazy as they are. Okay? And that works in that area of the region.

• 1:23:07Speaker 05

  Jared, I think, I, I agree with you on us intervening. I, I saw videos yesterday, I couldn't even send them to Rob because of how bad, people talk about protesters and stuff like that. They are IRGC, is driving through crowds, and I saw people getting completely run over-

• 1:23:24Speaker 04

  I saw those.

• 1:23:25Speaker 05

  And, you know what I'm talking about. So I can't- Senator Rob, uh, two things. I think, well, first of all, I don't think Trump, and we know how he plays this, this chess. He's not gonna divulge our, our plans of attacking or not to some reporter that the network absolutely despises him. I want to ask you a question, Jared. Do you think, because I remember when everything was getting ramped up and looked like we were gonna go. And then Trump made a comment about Reza Al Palavi, the, the, the prince of, of, uh, the king's son. Do you think, Jared, some of this is not stalled, but kind of slowed down? Because Trump doesn't have confidence that Reza could take the lead because, Jared, at the end of the day, if we go in there and we do a strategic strike, which I think we could take out everybody, the fact that this guy's hiding, we know exactly where he is right now, all day, all the time. You think we're kind of holding back because they don't have a leader because somebody's gonna have to step up?

• 1:24:10Speaker 04

  No, I actually think if you look at what happened in Venezuela, right, which from a military standpoint, whether you, you know, I argue that, you know, the, the president doesn't have that ability to do that without coming to Congress, although, yes, it's happened in previous presidencies. But if you look at the strike itself, it was 100% successful, right? In and out, no boots on the ground, no lives lost, accomplished the mission. I think that they recognize if they're gonna do something, it has to be flawless. They didn't have the assets in the region, so they've been moving more and more and more assets in the region. By the way, we heard from Venezuela, they were practicing and practicing, right? All of that stuff is going on now. They're planning for all sorts of contingencies. But look, you know, what comes next? Let's say the regime falls. What comes next? Nobody knows.

• 1:24:55Speaker 04

  The idea that we're gonna install somebody, I don't think that's gonna be accepted, but that's gonna be up to the Iranian people. I will say one thing, right? We, we have heard a lot about, you know, other countries and about, you know, war crimes and, and, you know, this and that, and their leaders. They've killed tens of thousands of people here in these protests, and, and we may never know how many. We may never know the real, the real number. And, but because it's not being fed to people every single day on TikTok and the platforms like other conflicts, the American people really don't know what's, what's going on there.

• 1:25:33Speaker 02

  So, want me to go? Go ahead. So, there's a genocide going on in Iran right now. Straight up. Their regime is killing tens of thousands of their own people. Allegedly. So, where are the protests? Where's the Gaza crowd? Where's the social justice warriors? Why are you guys all so silent? Not one word? Not one encampment? Not, not one sign? You know, when, when ICE kills somebody, there's a protest with signs in minutes. Not one sign? Social justice warriors on the left? Nothing? There's no gays for Iran? No, there's no gays for Iran? I didn't see that. No, the Grammys, you're not, you're gonna, you're gonna say, uh, no one's illegal on stolen land?

• 1:26:17Speaker 02

  You're not gonna say one thing? But the tens of thousands of people that are killed in a week in Iran, really? This is what we're doing. So, when people look at your movement and go, "Bunch of hypocrites." Nothing. They just hate Israel. Because when the Iranian people kill people in their, the regime kills people, their own people. You judge a regime by what they do to their own people? They're murdering their own people? And you mother suckers are silent? Your silence is what people are noticing. I'm sorry. So, I don't know what USA is gonna do? But I don't know what the people of Iran are gonna do, because here's the one question. How many more dead Iranian bodies are we gonna need?

• 1:27:01Speaker 02

  Before the world goes, "All right, guys, it's too much." Because they said genocide in Israel and Gaza, literally, three days after when they-

• 1:27:09Speaker 04

  No, no, no, the next day.

• 1:27:10Speaker 02

  The next day.

• 1:27:11Speaker 04

  Next day.

• 1:27:12Speaker 02

  But I hear zero genocide. So, forgive me if we no longer care what the gays for Gaza crowd or the Free Palestine crowd has to say. If you're gonna stay silent on what they're doing in Iran, it's absolutely disgusting. Tom.

• 1:27:27Tom Ellsworth?

  It's been said, you and Jared said it. I don't have anything to add.

• 1:27:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, if you look at this here, US-Iran nuclear deal. Uh, Rob, is this the one? What does it say? Uh, right now it's at 74%. Before August, 74% they're gonna get a deal? Oof.

• 1:27:46Tom Ellsworth?

  And that just jumped. I mean, that jumped in hours, last 24 hours.

• 1:27:50Patrick Bet-David?

  If you look at the amount of, the volume on it, it's $81,000. Rob, can you go to the other one with Khamenei? Look at this one here.

• 1:27:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 1:27:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Ali Khamenei as a, out as a supreme leader, look at the amount of uh, uh, uh, money they've placed on this one here. Look at the volume.

• 1:28:07Tom Ellsworth?

  16.7.

• 1:28:09Patrick Bet-David?

  16.75 million dollars, Vinnie.

• 1:28:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Geez.

• 1:28:12Patrick Bet-David?

  16.75 million dollars saying he'll be out by September 1st. I think right now this is- By the way, if he just dies of natural causes, do you win?

• 1:28:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I think so. That's a very good question. Or is the prediction-

• 1:28:24Patrick Bet-David?

  That still counts.

• 1:28:25Tom Ellsworth?

  He's still out. He's out. You know what's interesting about this?

• 1:28:28Speaker 02

  He's gonna go up to heaven and have his 72, so it's gonna be right.

• 1:28:31Speaker 05

  I don't think about, I don't think about-

• 1:28:32Tom Ellsworth?

  What's very interesting about this, Kaochi Pat?

• 1:28:34Patrick Bet-David?

  What's that?

• 1:28:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Is, they say he's out. 100% say he's out. 21% says it'll be before April 1st. 32% says it'll be before July 1st, so now that's 53, 54. Then 37% it'll be September 1st, so that's 84, 93, 94.1.

• 1:28:54Patrick Bet-David?

  So 94% is saying he's gonna be out.

• 1:28:57Tom Ellsworth?

  They all say he's out, it's just when.

• 1:28:59Speaker 02

  That's our Tom Kornacki on the ones and twos right there, he knows what's going on.

• 1:29:02Patrick Bet-David?

  He got the point one wrong, but for the rest of it, he did right. So if you do the math, Tom, the point one would be point seven. But I'm not gonna correct you on that.

• 1:29:09Speaker 02

  Every time, it's the decimals, Pat. He always forgets the decimals, guy. Look, he's turning red. Come on, Tom.

• 1:29:14Tom Ellsworth?

  I didn't want to carry the one, and the one that's gonna, and the one that's gonna be missing is Khamenei.

• 1:29:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but, but going back to it. Going back to it, I think, I think what is going on right now is the Iranian people-

• 1:29:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Are truly waiting for Trump to get this done.

• 1:29:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:29:32Patrick Bet-David?

  And if he doesn't do it, there isn't anybody else that can get it done for them. And it could be another 20 years.

• 1:29:38Speaker 02

  Oh, man.

• 1:29:39Patrick Bet-David?

  If 20 years, you're assuming.

• 1:29:40Speaker 02

  I thought they don't want foreign influence though, Pat.

• 1:29:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Another 20 years before anything else takes place where they'll have an opportunity of a guy like this capable of doing it. But the, the part that they have to understand with him, when I sat with him and we did the podcast, he specifically said, I said, will you intervene? Will you drive pressure to Iran? Will you says, I don't know. All we have to, we have to stay fluid. Every strategy is going to be different with everything we do. He says, but Patrick, we already have so many problems in America right now.

• 1:30:10Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:30:10Patrick Bet-David?

  That we have to fix. We have so many problems. So that's not good for Iranians because that's not what Iranians want to hear. Right? That, that is, that is, you know, a, a message where, you know, you're seeing the down road doctrine like this. But I also, you know, the, the part that, the part that doesn't change for me with this is, you know, he is so unpredictable. You have no idea what's going on at all. The moment he thinks that you think he's going to attack here, he doesn't attack. And then he attacks, the moment you think he's not going to be attacking and then he attacks. That's his way. That's his, that's his been, uh, his motto so far. So we'll see what'll take place. But the reality of it going back to it, I don't, I don't know. I don't know if there is anybody as a replacement right now. Like you said earlier, allow the people to select

• 1:30:53Patrick Bet-David?

  who they want and who they want their leader to be. We have no idea what's going to happen. I do think if it doesn't get done, I think a lot of criticism will go. Maybe not by the RP community because the RP community, RP can never do anything wrong in their eyes at all. He can never do anything wrong in their eyes.

• 1:31:11Speaker 02

  He's perfect?

• 1:31:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I think in their eyes, he's their, he's their son. He, in their eyes, he can't do anything wrong. But if this doesn't get done, I put a lot of the onus on him. And I said it from the beginning because he's never had this close of a shot to get this thing done. And again, every time I say this, people get upset, but that's my position. It hasn't changed.

• 1:31:29Speaker 02

  Pat, one follow up on this, if you don't mind.

• 1:31:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me.

• 1:31:33Speaker 02

  It seems like the people around have the most hope they've had maybe in 47 years. If there was, you know, like there's the fear greed index when it comes to the economy and markets.

• 1:31:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:43Speaker 02

  Where is the Iranian people on the hope despair index?

• 1:31:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Lower than four weeks ago, lower than two weeks, it's been declining. It's probably the lowest in the last four weeks.

• 1:31:54Speaker 04

  Well, we said, we said help was on the way. I mean, we didn't say it. The president said help is on the way.

• 1:32:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:32:01Speaker 04

  Right? I mean, let's just be clear. If Obama said help was on the way and then no help came.

• 1:32:06Speaker 02

  That's expected. They're crossing those red lines.

• 1:32:08Speaker 04

  No, but like everyone would have called them out like they did when they said, when we said this is a red line in Syria. And then it wasn't a red line.

• 1:32:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:32:14Speaker 04

  Trump said help was on the way. If help doesn't come. Look, the president recognizes something, I think, in his life, right? You know, I think he realizes, you know, he's, he's got three years left his presidency, he's an older, he's an older guy. You know, like this is a, he's trying to put his stamp on things.

• 1:32:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:32:31Speaker 04

  Okay? If he backs away from this, that will be part of his legacy. Versus the opposite.

• 1:32:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:39Speaker 04

  Which is, this is not just about the Iranian people. He can fundamentally change the entire region immediately.

• 1:32:49Patrick Bet-David?

  The world.

• 1:32:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:32:50Speaker 04

  The world.

• 1:32:51Patrick Bet-David?

  The world.

• 1:32:51Speaker 02

  But you made a good point, Jared. China would suffer, Russia would suffer.

• 1:32:55Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 1:32:55Speaker 02

  Venezuela?

• 1:32:56Patrick Bet-David?

  But you have to realize, Turkey's calling him saying, don't do anything.

• 1:33:00Speaker 04

  Yep, Qataris are calling him.

• 1:33:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Qataris call him saying, don't do anything. These are people that are very, very important players in the Middle East. I don't even think Saudi wants him to do anything. So if he's getting those calls and those are good partners and they don't want him to do anything and he's getting that close. Question becomes, who's going to convince him to do something? Not going to be China, not going to be Russia, not going to be Modi. Who, who's it going to be? Just Israel? Is Israel's going to be the only one that's going to say, do it?

• 1:33:28Speaker 04

  Well, don't believe what you read publicly.

• 1:33:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:30Speaker 04

  Right? Like, so the Saudis are never going to come out and say, please do this. They're going to come out and say, we're against it, you can't use our airspace, we're not going to help. Privately, conversations are different. So like, sometimes, you see, you see like, "Oh, Mr. President, please don't do this." When is it happening? When's it gonna happen? Right? And especially with the first, when we, when we did those B2 bombers, Saudi was also saying, "Please don't do it." We use, we use their airspace. Okay, so...

• 1:33:58Speaker 02

  What do you think they're saying in private, then? Is in public, "No, I think the UAE said can't use our airspace."

• 1:34:04Speaker 04

  I think this is the most important thing to MBS, is to ha- I think, what, what I gather from what Saudi Arabia wants to accomplish is, I think they recognize for the Middle East to emerge as a major economic region, which it has the potential to do. This is a necessary piece. You're never gonna be able to become what you wanna become.

• 1:34:25Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the holdup? What do you think's the holdup?

• 1:34:27Speaker 05

  I, I, I think personally, when we went into Venezuela, we took out Maduro. We, we, by the way, we set the plan that you talked about, Jared. We went to the number two and number three and said, "Hey, listen, you guys were all gonna get wiped out. Follow in line, do what we're gonna say." And they're kinda holding it together. Because think about it, the military still has to be in charge. The government still has to run. And with Khomeini, who's gonna be the number two guy? Another crazy person that's gonna, there's no negotiating with that sense. So I'm saying, that's why I think, Jared, we didn't go, he kinda is holding back. Because if you take out Khomeini, which by the way, they can take him out like that, who's number two? Another crazy, anti-American, death to America, death to everybody. That, I, I, I think, I think they went a little bit too far, but I don't think Trump's not gonna do it.

• 1:35:07Speaker 04

  But the Israelis showed you could take out multiple people at a time, right? And so, listen, it takes a while to put those things in motion.

• 1:35:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, I think he'll do it.

• 1:35:15Speaker 04

  So I'm, I'm good with pause, right? And time, but I'm not good with never.

• 1:35:22Speaker 05

  I think he'll do it. I think he's gonna do it, but not-

• 1:35:23Speaker 02

  On the hope-despair chart? If you wanna have like a tough versus fake tough chart? Iran is fully on the fake tough chart. For years, death to America, like Maduro, come and get me. Oh yeah, we'll come and get you. The death to America chants, the, the death to Israel, the death to England, the death to the West. And you can't, you've never been, you've never won a fight.

• 1:35:47Speaker 05

  I.

• 1:35:48Speaker 02

  All you do is fund proxies. Your Triple H crew with Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, you're funding Islamic Jihad. You haven't won a fight since the eighties.

• 1:35:57Speaker 05

  Trump, Trump is unpredictable.

• 1:35:58Speaker 02

  Forty years of not winning anything.

• 1:36:01Speaker 05

  Trump.

• 1:36:01Speaker 02

  And you're still talking tough Ayatollah.

• 1:36:03Speaker 05

  You know.

• 1:36:03Speaker 02

  I think at any point, if they wanted to take him out, they could. The people that would suffer the most, which clearly Ayatollahs and the mullahs don't care, are the Iranian people.

• 1:36:12Speaker 05

  What?

• 1:36:13Speaker 02

  The number one question is, how many Iranian lives have to die before this regime falls? Cause tens of thousands didn't move the needle one bit.

• 1:36:21Speaker 05

  I, I, well, I guess what, the fact that they just told all the people there, the embassy and everything like that. Watch Trump, the best time for him to do it would be halftime during Bad Bunny's performance. Just to make everybody look away from that thing.

• 1:36:32Speaker 04

  Are you reading, are you reading the cables? Are you reading the international cables?

• 1:36:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. Getting back to Pat's question. Take a look at history. We moved Maduro out when we knew that that, whether it's CIA or it's other things, or knowing who's behind him.

• 1:36:46Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:36:46Tom Ellsworth?

  That there's going to be some relative stability and something progressing behind it.

• 1:36:50Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:36:50Tom Ellsworth?

  When we went and got Noriega and plucked him out of Panama, there was something that was relatively stable. We at least knew what was going to come up behind it. Neither of those destabilized.

• 1:37:00Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:37:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Now you go take a look at right now, we have history twice, twice. We armed the Muammar Ghazidin and got the Russians out of Afghanistan, but there was no leadership to flow in. And it became even more crazy than it was before the Russians were there. Then what you see, saw what happened to Saddam Hussein. And there was no backup plan and it went nuts in Iraq. So I believe America is waiting till they can invoke and kind of control who and what comes up there. Cause if you just take them out, you, history shows you in that side of the Middle East, what flows in can be far worse and more uncontrollable.

• 1:37:40Speaker 04

  We're not talking about the oil, right? So the problem also is, is that if, you know, if you take out a couple of people, right? And all of a sudden, they, there's just mass chaos and they stop producing as a result. You know, oil prices are going to spike. And so he's hearing that as well. But, you know, listen, again, I, I, I think the president has to realize that it's him or nobody. He's got a period of time to do it. If he doesn't do it, then, then the Iranian people, this, this is their future.

• 1:38:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I don't, I don't think it's going to get worse than this. Adam, I'm moving on. Chinese-linked biolab discovered in Las Vegas home. Adam will go 50 times if we don't stop him. This is something that's important. Chinese-linked biolab discovered in Las Vegas home sparks federal investigation with SWAT response. Rob, if you have a clip on this, go for it.

• 1:38:28Speaker 02

  Our 8 News Now investigators breaking yet more news about that biolab that was raided over the weekend. Documents we obtained reveal several people got sick from it. 8 News Now investigator David Charms breaking that story. And David, what are you learning about it tonight?

• 1:38:42Speaker 04

  Well, these new documents say several people became sick from that suspected lab inside a house that police and the FBI are labeling as an Airbnb or a short-term rental. Metro showing this video of the inside of that lab inside that Northeast Valley's home garage. We've learned a person tipped off the FBI in early January that that garage was locked and that there were fridges running inside. A person telling those investigators that it smelled like a hospital with a quote foul, stale, stagnant air smell. Now, documents say several days after entering that garage, two people became quote deathly ill. They said they couldn't get out of bed and several other people had gotten sick there before.

• 1:39:25Speaker 04

  Also learning items from this lab were moved from a different location here in the valley, possibly from several years ago when that location failed to get a state license. Now, as we first reported over the weekend, this lab is connected to a lab the feds actually raided three years ago in 2023. That location there in Reedley, California, outside Fresno. Inside, officials found similar equipment and pathogens like HIV and malaria. Court documents in that case mentioned Las Vegas and possible warehouses here. And today, I asked the city manager for that community about her reaction to this latest lab.

• 1:40:03Speaker 02

  What was your reaction? When you saw over the weekend that all these same people were involved in yet another potential bio lab, but this time in Las Vegas. I will say that I was not surprised.

• 1:40:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. Vinnie thoughts?

• 1:40:17Speaker 05

  Okay, um, so Congressman, this is a question that's gonna come to you after I I talk about the I I don't know how this isn't one of the biggest stories. Me and you talked about this yesterday. So we just found this out. Yep. In June, the DOJ arrested two Chinese nationals in Detroit for smuggling fungus that was gonna be agricultural terrorist weapon. During the Biden administration, China bought land, Congressman, all over the United States, including next to military bases. They flew spy balloons at will. Nobody stopped them. Nobody said anything. Gavin Newsom rolled out the red carpet for Xi Jinping. All the homeless people disappeared. Um, maybe they should have him visit more often. It'll save the taxpayers billions. And then China, let's go back, right, Tom? Xi Jinping's here. Clean up the homeless people. Um, China.

• 1:40:59Speaker 04

  Boston to Sacramento.

• 1:41:00Speaker 05

  In my opinion, my Vincent O'Shaughnessy opinion, unleashed COVID on the world, never been held accountable. And anyone that even opened their mouth and said China virus, we're all considered racist. So my simple is, my, uh, my question is very simple, Congressman. At what point are we gonna start treating China like the enemy that they are instead of saying that they're the adversary and continue to put Americans at risk? God, this is one lab that we found. Who knows what else is here? Because the border was wide open. How many, the amount of Chinese nationals that crossed over were absolutely insane. I'm just curious to what your, what your take is on that.

• 1:41:32Speaker 04

  Well, I mean, first of all, based on this, I need to go home and clean up my garage fridge. I mean, there's some stuff in there that's old that definitely is a biohazard. So the guy, by the way, there's a guy, the guy in jail for the first lab, this is also his lab.

• 1:41:46Speaker 05

  This is his.

• 1:41:46Speaker 04

  He's connected to this lab. And he's, and we got him the first time. This is China.

• 1:41:51Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:41:51Speaker 04

  This is directly linked to the CCP.

• 1:41:54Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:41:55Speaker 04

  To have this stuff here just in case, okay? There's just no doubt about it. First of all, remember, I did the COVID response for the entire state of Florida. I didn't see my family for four months. I was quarantined with my whole team, uh, in the EOC. We lost a lot of doctors, a lot of nurses in those hospitals. I was doing, you know, all sorts of PPE. Testing vaccines, the whole deal. That virus came out of a lab. There's no doubt about it. The idea that it's like, okay, there's this lab that is called the coronavirus Wuhan lab. Uh, but it didn't come out of there. It came out right across the street.

• 1:42:28Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:42:29Speaker 04

  From the wet market. I mean, come on. So it came out of the lab. Now, whether it was an accidental leak, okay? Or it was an intentional leak, that I don't know. Whether China allowed it to leave so that everyone got it, not just them. I mean, they let people leave China.

• 1:42:43Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 1:42:43Speaker 04

  They didn't lock down, they could have done that. This is absolutely China. China is a, our number one foe.

• 1:42:50Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:42:51Speaker 04

  We have to also understand and deal with the fact that they are a major economic force. Okay, this, they're not like anybody else. We can't deal with them from a military point. It's a totally different, we're totally encumbered with them. We offshored a lot of our stuff to China so we could have cheaper goods here.

• 1:43:08Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:43:09Speaker 04

  And so we are intricately linked. We have made them a rich nation. We have done that, maybe guy, becoming a consumer nation and making them a manufacturing nation. Uh, but this is absolutely China, there's no doubt about it.

• 1:43:20Speaker 05

  Congressman, so my question is then, how, how do we address? I get exactly what you're saying, that's where I was gonna talk about a little bit earlier. But how do you address this? Yeah, we need each other for business, but you are trying to destroy, like, if this got to me with another COVID, Congressman? We're finished again.

• 1:43:35Speaker 04

  You gotta weaken them, you gotta weaken them economically. And so what, what you have to do, which is why I, I wasn't a fan of the tariff situation. What I, what, what I was a fan of was trying to onshore jobs back to America. Right? Get some of these factories, get some of these corporations. Between the end of the Biden administration and the beginning of the Trump administration, we spent eight trillion dollars in these COVID rescue packages. You know how much money we put in there to onshore jobs back from China? Zero. That was our opportunity to do it. You know, the CHIPS and, the CHIPS and Science Act? Some of that is the same thing, trying to onshore some of the stuff out of Taiwan back to A- America. We got, we gotta get manufacturing back here. First of all, God forbid we got into a world war. We don't make shit here. Okay, nothing. I saw that during COVID.

• 1:44:20Speaker 04

  We had to convert factories to make masks and ventilators, it took- Ten weeks to do that, nobody, nobody could figure it out and we had to put so much money into it. China has so much control over everything that's made, like 90% of medical ingredients come out of China. By what comes out of Wuhan, out of all places.

• 1:44:37Speaker 05

  Weird.

• 1:44:38Speaker 04

  Okay, we have to get some of these jobs back. That means prices are gonna go up here. And now with the tariffs, I just don't know that we have the ability to do that.

• 1:44:46Speaker 05

  So you, when you said we, uh, we need to weaken them economically, I feel like the reason that they unleashed Covid was because Trump was trying to weaken them and put the tariffs and do the trade deals with them. I think that was their, their response was, okay, we're gonna destroy him, he's not gonna become president. Covid, boom, so now what do we do?

• 1:45:02Speaker 04

  We haven't even mentioned the critical mineral issue, right? Like I was one of 10 Democrats that voted for the bill just yesterday. I'm getting a lot of crap for it because it had to do with mining. But, but for me, it's all about critical minerals. People don't realize it, because to your point, it's not a top story, right? We're not educating the voter. China controls 80% of the world's critical minerals. Putting aside that we need those things for cell phones and chips. All of our military weapons, all of them, need these critical minerals. And they control 80% of not just the, where these mines are, but the processing, that's the key. The processing. We, we gotta take, we gotta get control of some of these mines. We're gonna have to mine here to find some of these critical minerals. We're gonna have to mine other places.

• 1:45:45Speaker 04

  That's why I never understood this idea of, oh, America first means we're gonna retract from the world. You retract from the world, China takes the world.

• 1:45:53Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:45:54Speaker 04

  They take the whole world when we retract from the world. We can't do that, that is not America first.

• 1:46:00Speaker 05

  Tom.

• 1:46:01Tom Ellsworth?

  So I, this is exactly why you're seeing Trump. Minerals was on the table, uh, on the, the first, second, and third offers for Ukraine. It was mineral, it was mineral mining so that they could be processed. Minerals in Greenland was part of the discussion. And there's a variety of things that are going on in the US. Uh, alternative means of getting lithium, like getting lithium out of seawater, although just like desalination, it costs a fortune to do that unless you use fifth generation. Small nukes and would actually decide you're going to permit those because they create a lot of electricity where you could run desalination, just like they do in Saudi Arabia, by the way.

• 1:46:43Tom Ellsworth?

  That's why parts of Saudi Arabia are getting so green because they desalinate a lot and they've got the power to do it. And so what Trump has been on a run on this, what's it, USA Mineral or USA, the company that was created. So you're absolutely correct and he is trying to reduce that dependence. You know, rare earth minerals and magnets will bring the defense industry to its knees, particularly magnets, if they suddenly stop. But the president has been looking at, you know, national security in terms of two things. Defense and economic security is national security. And that is what you're seeing. The president's progress has been made on rare earths and he should keep driving it.

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• 1:48:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam.

• 1:48:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, this story should scare the hell out of you. So China releases in a wet market.

• 1:48:33Speaker 02

  Next across on the Wuhan lab, the covid in 2020, basically getting their entire country sick and turn their entire world. They said to themselves, why do it in our own country this time? Let's go do it in Wuhan, Las Vegas. So I'm reading this story. I'm like, what in the Wuhan lab breaking bad Anthony Fauci world is going on here in Las Vegas? Imagine if they let a virus out right now in Trump's second term, trying to derail Trump's second term for the second time. So like, this is very scary. Here's a little marketing idea where anyone wants to get some eyeballs on the probably the most important story of our lifetime, which is China trying to take over the world. The guy that owned the house

• 1:49:17Speaker 02

  was Xi Jinping, but the property manager was a 55 year old named Ori Solomon. Just say that Ori Solomon has ties to the Mossad and he met Xin Jingzhu in Epstein Island.

• 1:49:33Speaker 05

  I knew it. I knew it. I knew it.

• 1:49:35Speaker 02

  And everybody will focus on this thing moving forward. Oh, Chinese people in Las Vegas with a lab leak, no big deal. But he was on Epstein Island once. Whoa, alert the authorities. Because attention flows where energy flows, tension flows, energy goes. Unless you take the attention off of Epstein and put it on really things that are changing the world, like Chinese lab leaks in America, nobody's going to pay attention to this.

• 1:50:01Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to next story. WaPo fires over 300 journalists as Jeff Bezos discriminated against white workers allegedly.

• 1:50:10Speaker 05

  What?

• 1:50:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, wait a minute.

• 1:50:12Speaker 05

  Uh oh.

• 1:50:12Patrick Bet-David?

  WaPo fires over 300 journalists as Jeff Bezos ignores correspondent. Please, I combined two stories together.

• 1:50:18Speaker 05

  Oh, it's okay.

• 1:50:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Please, by the way, that sounded good though.

• 1:50:21Speaker 05

  I was like, he's white though.

• 1:50:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me go to it. All right. Page 28 is the story. Rob, do you have this? I think you may, you may have a clip on this. So WaPo on Wednesday announced layoffs for a third of its newsroom, including its entire sports desk, ignoring reporters in passion, please to billionaire owner Jeff Bezos, more than 300 journalists. Go ahead, Rob, play the clip. The Washington Post owned by Amazon founder Jeff Bezos began

• 1:50:50Speaker 02

  widespread layoffs on Wednesday in a move that would drastically shrink the size of the newspaper. That's according to a recording of a company-wide call shared with Reuters. A spokesperson for the newspaper said the cuts will impact a third of all employees. Executive editor Matt Murray told employees the reductions will hit international editing, metro and sports desks. The announcement comes just days after the paper scaled back its coverage of the 2026 Winter Olympics amid mounting financial losses. News outlets have struggled for years to maintain a sustainable business model in the digital era.

• 1:51:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. Tom, thoughts?

• 1:51:32Tom Ellsworth?

  So, isn't it interesting that the world's second richest man who bought a newspaper and he said on the day he bought it to save democracy? Right? Is that a, okay? Let me tell you, he's a businessman. And in the last three years, one year was a $64 million loss, one year was a $111 million loss. Check me on those numbers, but I believe those are correct. And he's finally saying, wait a minute, I don't know if we can make a business out of this. This has to go to digital subscriptions. I saw a chart yesterday published by the Wall Street Journal that showed that only the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times were having profitable success long-term on digital subscription as papers, you know, disappear.

• 1:52:15Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, it's very interesting is we're down here in South Florida and you remember how big the Sun Sentinel used to be? My father-in-law will come from Idaho, stay with us for about, you know, a month, month and a half at a time, and he wants a daily paper. So we get the Sun Sentinel. Have you seen? How big that is now? It's small. It's like a pamphlet. That's what's happened to the newspaper. So it's a business that is dying. The internet is killed. That instant news is dead. And Bezos did this, I think to control narrative and things. Now,

• 1:52:48Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a business decision he's making. Well, there was also a business decision he made where they were ready to go. You know, it used to be when you run for office, what do you want? You want the police chief, you want the fire chief, you want the newspaper, all to give you an endorsement. Oh, look, the mayor has been endorsed by all these people in the League of Women's Voters. If you got that, then you got all the people that represented that, then all you needed was the teachers' union, and in the small-town mayor, you probably would win. So these were important vehicles in our history in elections. They were about to come out and endorse Kamala Harris. And Bezos pulled it. He said, "No, we will be neutral, we will support no one."

• 1:53:30Tom Ellsworth?

  The newsroom erupted and said, "We think you're making the wrong call." Now, for America, I think Bezos made the right call. But to tell you who was subscribing to The Washington Post, they lost 200,000 digital subscriptions in the next, what, 30 to 60 days? That was there? So they didn't have a profitable business, they don't have a profitable business. Now, there are better ways to do this, because the layoff was happening, and where's Bezos? Bezos should have been there and should have been able, like most entrepreneurs do, say, "Well, you know, this part didn't work, this part did, but I tried." Failure is the freedom to fail, it's part of entrepreneurship, it's part of American capitalism.

• 1:54:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Instead, people think that Bezos has been cozying up to Trump to get certain benefits for other businesses that he wants, such as Amazon, and he has a space business, and he was actually giving a spaceport tour to J.D. Vance, supposedly at the exact time that the announcements of the layoffs were made to the people, and that the executive editor wasn't even on the call when people were told... You know how they did it, Pat? Don't come to work tomorrow, get on an 8 a.m. Zoom and then watch your email.

• 1:54:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me, let me ask this though, Tom. He bought it October of 2013 for $250 million. He just let go of 300 journalists. I looked at online what the average salary is between 40, uh, between 55 to $200,000. Let's take the average of $120,000 salary.

• 1:55:08Tom Ellsworth?

  That's fair.

• 1:55:08Patrick Bet-David?

  120,000 times 300, that's 36 million dollars a year in savings, okay? Automatically that you say that 36 million. Do you think he's sitting there, you know, sometimes you buy a business and you buy it for different reasons to feed the flywheel? And it ends up creating a lot of noise. Do you think Wapo has been the number one noise creator for him that he probably sits there saying, "Why the hell did I get into this business?"

• 1:55:34Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I, I think that's very true. When he bought it, I read, and this goes back years ago, I read an analysis, it was like a private equity analysis. You know when private equity buys, you and I are in this business, private equity buys a business, they immediately trim certain things.

• 1:55:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Sure.

• 1:55:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, the question was, why the hell would any daily newspaper have its own sports section? When ESPN and the leagues have their own sites, their own apps and everything, what are you going to add to conversation about the Washington Nationals that the MLB app, MLB.com and ESPN don't always already cover?

• 1:56:08Patrick Bet-David?

  So you would have cut that day one?

• 1:56:10Tom Ellsworth?

  I would have cut that day one and just say, "Hey, we're going to be about the community, we're going to be about the political dialogue, we're going to bring you angles on international things." And I want to look at what really, really works and what's not redundant and what can I, oh, crazy entrepreneurial capitalist word, what can I differentiate on? Rather than me too, me too, me too, me too. And so I, I think this has created a lot of noise for Bezos for the last five years. And it's created a hole at the bottom of his pocket. Remember, what did he pay for it? 250?

• 1:56:41Patrick Bet-David?

  250 in October of 2013.

• 1:56:43Tom Ellsworth?

  And he self-funded 170. In the last three years, he self-funded 174 in losses.

• 1:56:50Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, let me ask you a question. If he puts it on the market right now for sale, how many buyers are there that for just vanity reasons would buy it?

• 1:57:00Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I think there's a reasonable number of buyers. The LA Times Syndicate has got it kind of turned around. I don't know if they have the capital, but they've had a bloody path of their own, a terrible path of their own, the LA Times. So I think someone would be there, but I don't think there's gonna be a line at the door. I mean, take a look at CNN. How long did they try to sell that before the current situation with WBD? They were trying to sell CNN at the last two Allen conferences and ZAZ couldn't get any takers. We talked about that on this podcast. And you would ask the same question, Pat. You would say, doesn't someone see value in CNN to come in and turn it right? I know what I would do.

• 1:57:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, Marc Benihoff just came out and said Time Magazine, we're just not making money with Time Magazine. And he bought it for, I don't know what he paid for, 350, 350 something when they bought it. And Rob, if you want to look this up, and that created a ton of noise. I do think there's a lot of people that would buy it. You know, there's certain assets, I'm looking up right now, New York Times has roughly 11.88 million total paid subscribers with 11.3 million digital only. Okay?

• 1:58:10Tom Ellsworth?

  New York Times and Wall Street Journal are the best in digital and they're making money.

• 1:58:14Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 1:58:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Very few others are.

• 1:58:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Wapo has 2.3 million, those two combined. I'm trying to figure out what LA Times is, apparently LA Times is print and digital is 650,000. Which means, and by the way, you know what Peter paid for LA Times?

• 1:58:28Tom Ellsworth?

  LA.

• 1:58:29Patrick Bet-David?

  500 million dollars. I don't know. I think he can probably turn this and make a profit and sell it for half a billion dollars. As crazy as it sounds, I think some billionaire would buy it from him. I don't know why Bezos is not dumping Wapo and moving on with his life. It's creating so much, if I was his PR rep, or if I'm his agent manager, sitting there saying, Jeff, why?

• 1:58:51Tom Ellsworth?

  What are you doing?

• 1:58:52Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you doing? There is nothing you can do right that you're gonna win with Wapo. Dump the damn thing. Let's, let me get to work and sell it at a discount, we'll still get 450 for it and make you an additional 200 million dollars. I would dump Wapo in a heartbeat if I was him, Adam.

• 1:59:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think he is regretting purchasing it. The, the day that Trump got reelected in 2024, he's like, yeah, I'm out on this. Because if Trump didn't get reelected, all the media landscape would be completely different right now. So look at all the billionaires who have spent money on media. You're not doing it namely as just an investment.

• 1:59:28Speaker 02

  So take what Elon did and saved free speech, 44 billion, I think he spent on X. That's, that's an anomaly. Most of these guys who are worth hundreds of billions are spending hundreds of millions on media. 1% of their net worth. This isn't a big transaction for someone like Bezos. He's worth 250 billion? He bought this for 250 million? It's just a drop in the bucket. 1%. He spent 500 million bucks on his mega yacht. Bezos. So this to me is nothing. This is all about controlling the narrative, making a prediction on culture.

• 2:00:05Speaker 05

  But he's not able to do it.

• 2:00:06Speaker 02

  He's not controlling the narrative, it's just noise. Because Trump became president. If Trump wasn't president and Kamala was president, you don't think he'd be railing on what's going on here? Kamala using that as like a, as a leverage to getting closer to the administration? So now, was Bezos at the inauguration? Yes or no? He was. Remember Mark Zuckerberg was famously looking at Bezos' wife's chesticles, whatever you want to call them? So he's playing a hard game now.

• 2:00:36Speaker 04

  Nobody uses that.

• 2:00:37Speaker 02

  Nobody uses that.

• 2:00:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I've never heard it, ever.

• 2:00:39Speaker 02

  Trying not to get canceled by the trans community, but with chest feeding. But once Trump, once Trump became president, Bezos was like, oh no. Now I'm caught in the middle of a pickle.

• 2:00:52Speaker 04

  But by the way, I disagree. The greatest time for media is Trump. If you can't make money in media now, if you can't make money now, you are not going to make it after Trump.

• 2:01:02Speaker 02

  But I understand that.

• 2:01:03Patrick Bet-David?

  And sell it today. Because it's never going to get as good as this.

• 2:01:06Speaker 02

  I understand that, but Bezos wants to get closer to the Trump administration for other reasons.

• 2:01:10Patrick Bet-David?

  But by the way, Bezos is...

• 2:01:11Speaker 02

  For Amazon, for Blue Origin.

• 2:01:12Patrick Bet-David?

  You asked the question earlier, why people got close to Epstein, right? So we talked about how billionaires are not cool, you know, cool people don't have money, they're broke, all these different reasons. Bezos is the face of billionaires who were not cool. And he tried to become cool. So he got some TRT in his body, body looks good, exercises, became cool, dates a beautiful girl, moved to Miami, he's kind of trying to get through that face. But to me, number one advice today, dump... This damn asset, I wouldn't be surprised if in the next 12 months, we hear a story that Jeff Bezos has sold Wapo for $339 million to some other billionaire out there. Don't be surprised if it happened this quickly. He's at a phase of his life that he needs to minimize noise.

• 2:01:56Patrick Bet-David?

  He's graduated into the cool phase now. You don't need to do this anymore.

• 2:01:59Speaker 02

  Then he won't own a media asset.

• 2:02:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, go buy a sports team. Go buy something else. Don't do this. You can be cool. Sports owners are different. They're cool. If you think about sports owners, like, hey, you know, they go to time as such places. You know, they go to different kind of places. They, sports owners, they have a different kind of a reputation in the marketplace, right?

• 2:02:18Speaker 02

  Don't go after my guy over there.

• 2:02:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Did I? Well, we're gonna get into that here in a minute because we gotta find out who's gonna do this. But I want to get into one other story. I want to get into one other story. Before we wrap it up, what was the story? I was literally just looking at the story I want to go to next. Oh, here we go. It's a very, it's probably out of all the stories we've talked about, I I'm probably gonna put this at the top.

• 2:02:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna put this at the top, and I think you're gonna agree with me when I read this to you. No, it's a very serious story.

• 2:02:48Speaker 05

  What happened in Malaysia?

• 2:02:49Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I'm just trying to see because.

• 2:02:51Speaker 04

  What happened in Malaysia?

• 2:02:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Jared, how hard do you guys work with your job?

• 2:02:55Speaker 04

  Congress?

• 2:02:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:56Speaker 04

  It's a joke.

• 2:02:57Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a joke?

• 2:02:57Speaker 04

  It's a joke.

• 2:02:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Not that much work?

• 2:02:59Speaker 04

  We had a three-day work week this week.

• 2:03:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, perfect. Well, then that's good for this.

• 2:03:03Speaker 04

  First of all, it's not even a three-day work week. We fly in, we have votes Monday night, then we had one set of votes Tuesday, votes Wednesday afternoon, out.

• 2:03:12Speaker 05

  Done.

• 2:03:13Patrick Bet-David?

  That's it?

• 2:03:14Speaker 04

  That's it.

• 2:03:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you guys hiring?

• 2:03:16Speaker 04

  I don't think you can make this sort of money. I don't think you can make this sort of money. Rob, you're gonna have to change your profile photo. But I don't think you can make that sort of money. In capital, look, when I tell people, like, when I was the Director of Emergency Management, like, that, I was working 20-hour days. Congress doesn't work. I mean, what's our approval rating? 18%? 17%?

• 2:03:39Speaker 02

  That's high for you guys right now.

• 2:03:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, they're high. It's an all-time low.

• 2:03:43Patrick Bet-David?

  18%. So this kind of takes me to the story because this is actually a good transition into the story. Because the Malaysia minister, he believes work stress makes you gay.

• 2:03:57Speaker 04

  This is what you want to talk about?

• 2:03:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Remark in Parliament goes viral.

• 2:04:01Speaker 04

  I gotta go.

• 2:04:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Seen.

• 2:04:02Speaker 04

  Man, look at that.

• 2:04:03Patrick Bet-David?

  How need sense we act. So by the way, Rob, is this truly a real story? That's what I want to know. Yes. Are you serious that this is a real story? Well, he's the minister. So what he's the Malaysian minister says that workplace stress can push individuals to become involved in the LGBTQ community. That's so. I've heard a lot of different things. I don't know if I've heard anything dumber than this year, by the way. Rob, but just please fact check that he actually said this. I think he did. This is factual? I just want to, I just want to make sure this is not one of these fake stuff that. I think it was by Zulifika Makan. Is that the name? Let's see here, guys. I mean, if this is a true story. What actually reported?

• 2:04:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Malaysian religious fair ministers did make remarks in written parliamentary reply suggesting that a mix of factors, including workload and stress, social influence and social experiences and lack of religious practice could lead to this. Okay, so this was a reply from a response.

• 2:05:01Speaker 04

  By the way, if this were factually based during COVID, I would have been the gayest person you had ever met, okay?

• 2:05:08Patrick Bet-David?

  I know.

• 2:05:08Speaker 04

  Because I didn't sleep for four months, okay?

• 2:05:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, man. I don't know.

• 2:05:12Tom Ellsworth?

  So this is hard work makes you gay. Adam, you're safe.

• 2:05:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so no, this makes, this makes you. Crickets.

• 2:05:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom.

• 2:05:19Speaker 04

  Tom, four out of 10.

• 2:05:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Four out of 10.

• 2:05:21Speaker 04

  Four out of 10.

• 2:05:22Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a good score for Tom. You're being friendly. Anyways, this, I was just gonna ask this because I wanted to find out from you if, you know, if our, our. Well, he's, he's safe because Congress, he just said Congress is chilling, they're not. But to me, if you say something like this, every entrepreneur in the world is gay, according to this minister. Oh, for sure. Closet homosexuals. Every military veteran, you know, working 80 hours a week, they're, you know.

• 2:05:41Speaker 04

  I mean, Trump does like the Village People.

• 2:05:43Patrick Bet-David?

  He does. Favorite song.

• 2:05:45Speaker 04

  And he's building a ballroom.

• 2:05:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Um, I mean. I don't think, I don't think that can be debated that he likes village people. Musk says, "Save Act requiring ID..." Okay, this is a good one for you, Jared. We're gonna come to this to you to see if, are these diamonds real or not? So Musk says, "Save Act Requires ID To Vote Must Be Done Or Democracy Is Dead." Rob, do you have this clip?

• 2:06:07Speaker 04

  I do. This is the tweet, and then I have the clip that the tweet's in reference to.

• 2:06:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So Glenn Beck tweets, "By passing this one act, the GOP will save the Republican and rescue the GOP. If they fail, we all fail. Eighty percent of all Americans want this. You need ID for everything except voting. There is only one reason not to pass this, and we all know what it is." Okay, so that's what he's saying. Elon comes out and says, "It must be done or democracy is dead." Rob, if you want to go to the clip of Elon, oh, to this clip.

• 2:06:36Speaker 04

  Oh, this is great.

• 2:06:37Patrick Bet-David?

  And this is CNN, which is phenomenal. Go for it. And then Jared, I'm gonna come to you.

• 2:06:40Speaker 05

  Take a look here. Favorite photo ID to vote. Eighty-five percent of white people favorite. Eighty-two percent of Latino. Seventy-six percent of black Americans favorite. So the bottom line is this: Voter ID is not controversial in this country. A photo ID to vote is not controversial in this country. It is not controversial by party, and it is not controversial by race. The vast majority of Americans agree with Nicki Minaj that in fact you should have a photo ID to be able to vote.

• 2:07:06Patrick Bet-David?

  So something of a...

• 2:07:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Jared, thoughts?

• 2:07:11Speaker 04

  By the way, have you guys voted recently? You go with a photo ID. You show your driver's license. And if you don't have a driver's license, you have a government-issued license. That's how you vote. So you do vote in Florida with a photo ID. And you have to do that in all the other states, as far as I know, that you have to show photo ID. So look, I am all for showing a photo ID to vote. That is not what the Save Act is doing. Elon is telling the truth, and he says, "This will save the republic." He should have said "republican." Okay, what the Save Act really is about is about getting people, less people to vote. It really, that's what it is. First of all, it would create a dramatic problem for women who have their maiden name on their birth certificate and their married name on their driver's license.

• 2:07:55Speaker 04

  Okay, because it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't fix that issue. So that's, that's one of the reasons why the Save Act doesn't work.

• 2:08:01Patrick Bet-David?

  How long is it? I gotta stop you. I'm sorry.

• 2:08:04Speaker 04

  Go ahead.

• 2:08:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Maiden name to married name?

• 2:08:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, so the thing is that if you're-

• 2:08:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Honestly, respectfully, you're going with that? How many decades is that a problem?

• 2:08:13Speaker 04

  No, no, but if your photo ID doesn't match your birth certificate, you might not be able to get the voter ID card. Okay, so we went, we went to Republicans to say, hey, just fix that issue. Didn't want to fix it, okay? This is about people who are poor, who work several jobs, and are not going to have the time to go get this new voter ID. This is no different than getting people off of the mail-in voting rolls, which they did in Florida, to make them reregister again. This is about decreasing voter turnout, period. When he says, there, there is only one reason not to pass this, and we all know what it is. Yeah, I, I know what it is. This is about less voter turnout. Getting those lower propensity voters not to vote. There are ways to do this.

• 2:08:58Speaker 04

  This is, the way they want to do it is just about less voters. That's what it is.

• 2:09:02Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, you said earlier that every state requires an ID to vote. That, that's just not true.

• 2:09:07Speaker 04

  Well, I just said, I don't, I said, I know in Florida we do.

• 2:09:09Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but that's the problem. You lived in Florida, I lived in LA, California. Right now, I lived in Texas. We lived in Texas five years.

• 2:09:15Speaker 04

  You have a voting card?

• 2:09:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, no, if you go, if you, Rob, pull it up real quick. I think it's, uh, uh, I don't know what it is. 10 or 15 states that you can go vote with no ID. And then there are states that you can vote with no photo ID. Uh, uh, yeah, zoom in a little bit on the color so we can explain what the colors are. Yeah, no IDs required are the grays. No photo ID required to vote. And then the blue is photo ID required. Look where you live, Florida, photo ID required.

• 2:09:43Speaker 04

  I'm, I'm all good with photo ID being required.

• 2:09:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you are with that? You're, you're good with that?

• 2:09:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, but photo ID, like your government-issued ID.

• 2:09:49Patrick Bet-David?

  To get to vote.

• 2:09:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, not a new, not a new thing that I have to go do. Like, the SAVE Act wants to create a new process. It doesn't say you can use your driver's license. You can use your government-issued ID. That's not what the SAVE Act does. It now says that you need to go get your birth certificate to go get your new voter ID card. You gotta go take your passport to go get your new voter ID card. It's not saying you now need your regular- Driver's license to go vote. You need your regular federal ID that you use to fly to go vote. That's not what the SAVE Act does. It wants to create a completely new ID that you're gonna need to vote. And that's why it's voter suppression.

• 2:10:26Patrick Bet-David?

  What is global entry? Global entry if I'm traveling TSA?

• 2:10:29Tom Ellsworth?

  I have that.

• 2:10:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't I have to get a new ID, right?

• 2:10:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:10:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what global entry is?

• 2:10:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, of course. That's the fast lane.

• 2:10:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, the fast lane.

• 2:10:35Speaker 04

  That's not man- global entry's not mandatory, though.

• 2:10:36Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, it's not mandatory. No, what I'm saying is, I know it's not mandatory, but where I'm at the least, they don't even want photo IDs. So I think what they're trying to do here, my opinion, you can push back and you're in this world, so you can push back. I think they're going for this, but I think they're willing to settle at photo ID. So I think if they go in the room-

• 2:10:57Speaker 04

  But then put that bill on the floor that you have to use your government-issued ID, your current government-issued ID or your passport, right? Any federal government-issued ID, you can use that, right? You can use it. When you fly, when to drive, you can use it. They want to create a new voter ID.

• 2:11:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you have a vote on the floor.

• 2:11:17Speaker 04

  I voted against it.

• 2:11:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Why don't- yeah. Then caucus with people and go for the compromise position.

• 2:11:24Speaker 04

  They don't want to compromise because that compromise doesn't achieve the objective. The objective is to create a new process that a lot of people won't participate in and will-

• 2:11:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Why not, though? Why not, Jared?

• 2:11:34Speaker 04

  Listen, there's a lot of people that don't have time to sit here and do a podcast. They're working three, four jobs, right? When they took people off those voting rolls for the mail-in-

• 2:11:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Those guys had time to go get an ID.

• 2:11:44Speaker 04

  Hold on.

• 2:11:44Patrick Bet-David?

  If you can go-

• 2:11:44Speaker 04

  They have an ID, let them use it. Let them use their driver's license.

• 2:11:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but what is the argument for a voter ID? What is the argument for it?

• 2:11:53Speaker 04

  Their argument?

• 2:11:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Their argument.

• 2:11:54Speaker 04

  Their argument is saying you should have an ID to go vote, to prove it to you. Great, let them use their federally-issued ID.

• 2:12:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Can illegals get a photo ID? Can you get a- if you're an illegal alien, can you get an ID in California? A driver's license?

• 2:12:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me tell you how California works. If you bring your California ID to Texas or Florida, Tom, you'll remember this.

• 2:12:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 2:12:14Patrick Bet-David?

  When you bring it here, you need to show two forms of identification and bills and whatever to get an ID. I don't remember exactly what it was.

• 2:12:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:12:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know what they didn't use, Vinnie? The California ID. You know this?

• 2:12:28Tom Ellsworth?

  No, but why?

• 2:12:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So if I came here, they looked at the Texas ID as valid, but they don't look at California ID as valid.

• 2:12:37Speaker 05

  That's exactly, do you remember this time?

• 2:12:39Tom Ellsworth?

  That's correct. And so Texas, you go to get a, Jared, maybe you don't know this. Texas, I go to get my driver's license. I get there in 2013, and I go to get my driver's license in Texas. I show them my California license, and they're like, um, no, I need a power bill to validate your address, or something, or a lease, or anything that you've got here to that, and utility would be great because it's with the city, to validate your address, but um, you need a, uh, do you have a birth certificate or a passport? I says, why? Because the California driver's license is on our excluded ID list to get a driver's license in Texas. I said, why is that? Because the California driver's license has been corrupted because they allow, um, yeah, people who are not citizens to get it. So there's not a proof of citizenship on that

• 2:13:22Tom Ellsworth?

  because of recent things they've done. So it's off our list. Sorry, it inconvenience you. You can go to the head of the line if you come back and bring your form with the pass. So I went home, I got my passport, and went, got back in line. That's how I got my Texas. So this is what Texas is doing in terms of, because they knew what California had done to its own driver's license by compromising it, by allowing, um, you know, illegal aliens to actually get California driver's licenses through loopholes.

• 2:13:50Speaker 04

  First of all, the entire country just changed to that new sort of federal ID for your driver's license, right? So the whole country moved over to that, the real ID. So the whole country moved over to that, number one. Number two is, we let people fly with that California driver's license that you're talking about. So it's obviously good enough for TSA because we let people fly with it. Third, guys, there's no evidence, none, zero that has ever been presented, that there are mass undocumented people voting and changing the elections. Trump litigated his election in 2020 in front of 70 different judges, in front of all these jurisdictions. They presented stuff. There was no evidence that this took place.

• 2:14:28Speaker 05

  So let me ask you a question. Then why for Biden's administration for four years, was the border completely wide open?

• 2:14:35Speaker 04

  Totally different issue, and it shouldn't, and it shouldn't have been.

• 2:14:38Speaker 05

  Well, yeah, and I understand, and I know that you agree with me on that, but what?

• 2:14:40Tom Ellsworth?

  But no voter ID and new voters in the right places.

• 2:14:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, but here's the thing. Give me, I'm not saying, I'm just saying in general, as the Democratic Party. Because it's not like they cared about these illegals. They don't give two craps about it. If we're gonna be honest, they don't give a damn about the kids. They don't give a damn about these people that are coming over. Almost 15 to 20 million people here. Give me the argument for why they let, the Biden administration, let them come in here. Is it for the census numbers that contours redistricting for people and people sitting in Congress? That, because their fight right now, the biggest fight that's happening in the country right now is the left seems like they care more about illegals than they care about Americans. Giving them housing, getting them in there, protesting in the streets. Nobody's protesting about anything else. All the problems that we have in this country, they are fighting for people that do not belong here.

• 2:15:27Speaker 05

  And there has to be an explanation. There has to be a simple, because it's not that they care. Democrats, nobody gives a damn about these people. Trump is fixing, he's trying to fix the problem that the Biden administration did. It's like, it's like somebody coming into your house, pooping on the floor, and then you're getting him out of here for picking up the poop. What are you doing? I'm cleaning up the mess that they made. So, so the argument comes to they can't vote. Go to California, you can vote. Go to these 16 states. You don't even need a photo ID. My thing is you have to have, I, I, I know you agree, identification. The Save Act says you have to be a citizen. And for all these married women and whatever, get your lazy asses and go get a freaking ID. Anybody could do it.

• 2:16:07Speaker 04

  It's already the law that you have to be a citizen to vote. Okay. First of all, Barack Obama deported more people than Donald Trump did in both his terms, in his first term, Barack Obama did. Okay. Tom Homan got an award from Barack Obama. Okay, got the medal. Barack Obama has still deported more people than Donald Trump is deporting now. So to blame the whole party on this issue is not true. Second of all, this immigration issue's been going on for a long time. This is a 20, 30-year deal. And yeah, election issue is linked up to that. Why? Because the reason why you don't want to give a path to citizenship is if you give them a path to citizenship, guess what they get? They get the ability to vote. And then yes, Texas could go blue. So they're not gonna let that happen. So by the way, why, why are they against that?

• 2:16:51Speaker 04

  Because they know they can't vote now. They can't vote now. That's why they don't want to give them the path to citizenship. If you give them a path to citizenship, then they do get to vote. So this just proves that they can't vote now. That's why they're against doing it. Guys, there's no evidence of this. Let people use their regular government-issued ID. We don't need to create an entirely separate new voter ID that a lot of people are just not gonna be able to.

• 2:17:14Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the likelihood this passes?

• 2:17:16Speaker 04

  Well, I mean, it passed the House, so it's up to the Senate.

• 2:17:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Senate is two-thirds, or Senate has to be?

• 2:17:21Speaker 04

  They need 60 votes because there's the automatic filibuster. And what they're trying to get John Thune to do now is to do, is to, is to change the filibuster rules and do what's called a standing filibuster, which is to go back to the old days when you actually had to stand on the floor and filibuster. So Democrats would need someone on the floor constantly talking all the time to stop it. Now, if Thune does that...

• 2:17:42Tom Ellsworth?

  That would be painful.

• 2:17:44Speaker 04

  Yeah. If Thune, well, you'll like all those speeches. If Thune does that, then, you know, then obviously we're continuing to change the rules in the Senate. And I will say this: Democrats and Republicans together have changed the rules in the Senate. Remember, Harry Reid got rid of the filibuster for Supreme Court judges, and then Republicans got rid of it for regular district court judges. That has led to the judiciary now being a lot more partisan. If the Senate continues to get rid of the rules, they're just the House. They just become the House. If it's majority rule in the Senate, it's just the House. And here's what happens. What happens is, every four years or six years, we're gonna pass statutes, then we're gonna remove statutes. We're gonna pass more statutes, then we're gonna remove statutes.

• 2:18:25Speaker 04

  And in this country, the chaos will get even worse as we've gerrymandered all these districts. General elections don't matter anymore, right? It's all about the primary, running to the left, running to the right, amping up the division. And so, you know, I hope he doesn't get, change the filibuster rules, because then we just continue, continue, and continue.

• 2:18:47Speaker 05

  But Congressman, for, in the Constitution, Article 1, Section 4 says Congress can, at any time, make laws to regulate and alter election procedures, especially when it's getting out of hand like this. But still, going back to my initial question, what was the reason for opening the border for Alejandro Mayorkas sitting in Congress saying, "The border is secure"? Kamala Harris saying, "The border's secure"? So we were invaded by our government...

• 2:19:11Tom Ellsworth?

  She eventually found the border.

• 2:19:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, she did. Yeah, she's once, I guess. But, and I'm curious, because I, I know you're opposing, you don't want, you have, you have a family, Congressman, you have children. God forbid, God forbid, something ever happened by somebody that does not belong to this country from a purposeful president and a... And administration letting these people in. I'm just looking for, because I know a bunch of American people, especially ones that have lost loved ones, family members that have lost daughters that were sexually assaulted, the R-word, all that stuff. What was the reason for opening the border? And even when Texas went to put barbed wire, they sued. They went and put up bulldozers and picked up the thing and let them come in. What is the rationale? Well, explain that to me. How did that happen? And how did nobody say anything on the left? They were just like, come on, come on in. That's why people like me question like, why would you let them in?

• 2:19:57Speaker 05

  I'm so curious.

• 2:19:58Speaker 04

  There were, there were people on the left that were talking about the Remain in Mexico policy. There were people on the left talking about, listen, there's a difference between economic asylum versus physical asylum. Look, my, my family came here escaping the Holocaust. My grandmother was part of the Kindertransport out of Germany. Her, her family was killed in Auschwitz. My grandfather escaped Poland from the pogroms. His entire family, everybody, aunts, cousins, uncles, everybody was killed. This country let us come in.

• 2:20:24Speaker 05

  Hundred percent.

• 2:20:24Speaker 04

  By the way, first they didn't, they turned the ship around. But eventually they let us come in, escaping persecution. Okay, look, Latin America ain't, ain't a

• 2:20:32Speaker 05

  Of course, yeah, it's not, it's not a great place, obviously.

• 2:20:35Speaker 04

  So there's a lot of people that want to come here for opportunity. Now, the difference, the question is, is did we provide a magnet? Because that's when we hear about immigration, you can hear about this magnet that you can turn on, that attracts, versus flipping the magnet around and repelling. Okay, we clearly turned the magnet on and too many people, too many people came, too many people came in. Hold on, we didn't bust them here. They came because they

• 2:20:58Speaker 05

  But, but, but, because the president and them said, come in, we're not Trump, come in here.

• 2:21:02Speaker 04

  They, they came, they came because they're escaping their conditions. Now, whether we should have let them seek asylum in the country versus remaining in Mexico while they seek asylum, that's the policy I agree with, which is let these people seek asylum, but we shouldn't have necessarily let them all in to seek asylum here.

• 2:21:21Speaker 05

  Congressman, 20, let's say, let's say 15 million people, and I get it, just, but my, his family, him included, my mother, my grandmother, all, they all came here from the Middle East to escape that, and I get it. But they came through a process. And what I'm saying is, what about the millions? I think Thomas

• 2:21:36Speaker 04

  unfair to them unfair

• 2:21:37Speaker 05

  yeah unfair but here's ready for this 2 million gotaways meaning we have no idea who they are we don't know where they are we just heard another story about a Chinese bio lab that has freaking all these pathogens in it and then 300,000 missing children and we're sitting here talking about Epstein and wow all these kids and all that it's unbelievable the amount of damage that they did and you talk about these democrats congressman with all I didn't hear one democrat stand up during the Biden administration and say guys shut the border what what are we doing Alejandro Mayorkas you're full of crap

• 2:22:08Speaker 04

  all right let me say let me say one more thing about this so the president's immigration policy in August had a 59% approval rating today it has a 39%

• 2:22:16Patrick Bet-David?

  and why do you think that is because the media is saying that he's Hitler and he's a Nazi

• 2:22:19Speaker 04

  hold up first of all I I nobody's Hitler other than Hitler that's

• 2:22:21Patrick Bet-David?

  thank you well thank you

• 2:22:22Speaker 04

  that's always the rule there's nobody

• 2:22:24Patrick Bet-David?

  thank you

• 2:22:24Speaker 04

  the rule you live by is Hitler is Hitler compared nobody to Hitler

• 2:22:27Patrick Bet-David?

  one of one

• 2:22:28Speaker 04

  okay

• 2:22:28Patrick Bet-David?

  yeah well the left doesn't see it like that

• 2:22:30Speaker 04

  but here's here's the thing okay the American people voted to go after gang members and criminals he told us that's what they were gonna do

• 2:22:38Patrick Bet-David?

  yes

• 2:22:39Speaker 04

  and they voted for that no doubt

• 2:22:40Patrick Bet-David?

  illegals illegals

• 2:22:42Speaker 04

  hold on he said criminals gang members aside these people who escaped

• 2:22:46Patrick Bet-David?

  illegals are criminals if you're illegal

• 2:22:49Speaker 04

  hold on I'm not debating that that's not what he told the American people he didn't tell the American people we're going

• 2:22:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob can you pull up his Trump 4720 promises I don't know if he did or not maybe you're right we'll read it right now

• 2:23:01Speaker 04

  what the American people are watching what they're watching live on TV and that's how Trump lives his world that's not what's happening okay that's not what's happening the mission went way beyond what the American people were told and anticipated we're going into factories you know for Hyundai and getting rid of their workers we're getting rid of people that are working in our fields

• 2:23:20Patrick Bet-David?

  there it is so Trump's number one promise

• 2:23:22Speaker 04

  seal the border

• 2:23:23Patrick Bet-David?

  was sealed the border and stopped the migrant invasion he didn't say criminals he didn't say any of that stuff

• 2:23:29Speaker 04

  hold on but that's a different issue sealing the border and stopping coming in is different than what do you do with the people here

• 2:23:34Patrick Bet-David?

  but look at number two

• 2:23:36Speaker 05

  Figure out the largest deportation operation in

• 2:23:38Speaker 04

  Well, he's failing.

• 2:23:39Patrick Bet-David?

  But that's his promise, though.

• 2:23:41Speaker 04

  But he's failing on that.

• 2:23:42Patrick Bet-David?

  You're saying that, but to me, let me ask you a question. Okay, so here's a question for you. What is harder to get? Is it harder to get a photo ID? Is it harder to get the Save Act voter ID? Or is it harder to get a green card?

• 2:23:57Speaker 04

  It's harder to get a green card.

• 2:23:58Speaker 05

  Green card.

• 2:23:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so it's harder to get a green card?

• 2:23:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, 100%.

• 2:24:00Patrick Bet-David?

  So, the people that you're saying have a hard time because they're so busy and they're not gonna do anything illegal, if they have a

• 2:24:08Speaker 04

  No, that's different. We're talking about, I'm talking about citizens who are here.

• 2:24:11Patrick Bet-David?

  But here, I totally get it, but somebody who's here that is a citizen or even's got a green card. People with a green card can vote. If you got a green card, I joined the military with just a green card and I wasn't a US citizen. Just so you know, I joined the army with a green card. So, even if somebody can get a green card, and green card's harder to get, why can't they get people to get a, you know, the voter ID? What would be the difficulty of that? You're saying the people that have three jobs, I'm running nine companies. I'm working

• 2:24:40Speaker 04

  But we don't need, but take Florida, we don't need new voter ID. We have

• 2:24:44Patrick Bet-David?

  But that's not Florida. But that's not Florida. So, to you, you've lived in a state that you don't have this issue, Congressman. Respectfully, you guys don't deal with that here.

• 2:24:53Speaker 04

  What I'm saying, take what Florida's doing. People are allowed to use their driver's license, okay? They're allowed to use their federally issued

• 2:25:00Patrick Bet-David?

  The difference, the difference is this, here's the difference. And I'm loving this exchange because it's we're going through leaks that every one of us is trying to find, especially for myself. This is your world. I can't, if I'm running the country, tell California what to do with the photo ID law of that state.

• 2:25:18Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 2:25:19Patrick Bet-David?

  The only thing I can do is to say, oh, you don't want to require an ID to vote? Photo ID? No problem. Guess what? I can't, as the president, tell you to get a photo ID. But guess what we're gonna do for the country? Everybody needs a voter ID. You wanna screw on with me and kinda do this stuff in a complete different way?

• 2:25:37Speaker 04

  But where's the evidence that that's happening?

• 2:25:39Speaker 05

  Do Gavin Newsom sign the Senate Bill 1174? That said, they got people in trouble for showing their ID.

• 2:25:44Speaker 04

  There's no evidence. That tens of, let's just say it's tens of thousands. Okay, first of all, California's

• 2:25:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Then you have nothing to worry about. Yeah, exactly. Then you have nothing to worry about.

• 2:25:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, of course I do.

• 2:25:54Patrick Bet-David?

  If there's no evidence, you have nothing to worry about.

• 2:25:55Speaker 04

  Of course I do, because now you're gonna make working-class people who vote Democrat, go get a brand-new, separate ID.

• 2:26:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Sure.

• 2:26:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:26:00Patrick Bet-David?

  So what? I want them to get IDs.

• 2:26:02Speaker 04

  That's gonna decrease turnout.

• 2:26:03Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're saying, if you're saying there's no proof that are people doing this, then there's nothing to worry about. Let's just kinda move forward and make it honest, and get states that don't wanna allow people to have IDs, have IDs. This is a very, very clear issue for me. It's not a complicated issue for me. If you have the time to go cross the border legally or illegally, get your green card, get your ID, get a job, take your kids to school, get a TSA free, get all this stuff, you have the time to go get a voter ID.

• 2:26:30Speaker 04

  That's not who the SAVE Act is gonna target. The SAVE Act is going to eventually affect lower-income, working-class people who are not gonna go do this separate process to vote.

• 2:26:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Why is it gonna target that?

• 2:26:41Speaker 04

  I mean, we could talk 12 hours about why people in the lower sector...

• 2:26:46Patrick Bet-David?

  But tell me in 60 seconds.

• 2:26:47Speaker 04

  Because they're so busy trying to just survive in this country, that every barrier you put in front of people... Why did the poll tax stop people from voting? Every barrier you put stops people from voting.

• 2:27:00Patrick Bet-David?

  But by the way, what if he does this? What if he does this? Okay, great. Hey, if you're watching, here's an idea for you. To all the people you're so worried about, I have a very simple proposition to Republicans. Guess what? The US government will pay for one-day vacation for you to go get your voter ID because you are so busy. So let's do the math. If you do the math, you got how many working people? Those that don't have a problem with it? Let's target the people that are the low-income. What percentage, Rob, can you pull up a percentage of... What percentage of people would be considered low... Uh, uh, what's the, what's the way we wanna categorize? Minimum wage? What percentage would you put low-income adults in America? Voters. Low-income adults, American. What is the number?

• 2:27:44Speaker 04

  10%, 10.6%.

• 2:27:45Patrick Bet-David?

  So what is that? 35.9 million?

• 2:27:47Speaker 04

  Below poverty.

• 2:27:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Perfect, below poverty. Take their average salary, say 32,000, let's just make it 50,000. Take 50,000 divided by 200 days. 50,000 divided by 200 days is what? $250. $250 times 35.9 million is what, Rob? Can you do the math, please? $250 times...

• 2:28:07Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna do some math with this congressman here. We're gonna figure this out together. We're not even in office.

• 2:28:12Speaker 05

  It's like the movie Dave.

• 2:28:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So $250 times 35.9 million makes it 8.9 billion dollars. Guess what? We paid 8.9 billion to dumber things. Let's pay 8.9 billion dollars for people to get one full day. Paid workday because we're so concerned because they're busy. Go get it done. If we pay them, would you be open to it?

• 2:28:36Speaker 04

  By the way, if you give people a holiday to go get their voter ID and you give them a holiday to go vote, I'm all for it.

• 2:28:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Perfect. That's what we're doing.

• 2:28:43Speaker 04

  Now, by the way, now by the way, hold on. My Republican colleagues have been against that for decades.

• 2:28:51Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, no, we were just on another point.

• 2:28:53Speaker 04

  Because if you give people a holiday, it increases voter turnout.

• 2:28:56Speaker 05

  Well, they don't want to work too hard because they don't want to become gay.

• 2:28:57Speaker 04

  It increases voter turnout.

• 2:28:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Jared, can I, I gotta add a clarifying point.

• 2:29:01Speaker 04

  Clarifying point. I'm not reading the small text.

• 2:29:04Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 2:29:05Speaker 04

  We have a deal, but let me, here's the small text.

• 2:29:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Here it is.

• 2:29:08Speaker 04

  Tom, you're overselling.

• 2:29:11Tom Ellsworth?

  I thought you were against filibusters. Stop. So 38% of Americans right now approve of the way ICE and the policy is being executed. That is what you said.

• 2:29:24Speaker 04

  Shooting Americans in the face is not a libel.

• 2:29:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, that's a whole different debate. 67% of Americans this day, according to a Marist poll, Harris poll, and Rasmussen, so there's a poll in there for everybody, say they agree with the president's policy.

• 2:29:41Speaker 04

  Strongly.

• 2:29:42Tom Ellsworth?

  So you can't.

• 2:29:42Speaker 04

  That's even a worse indictment. Hold on, think about what you just said.

• 2:29:45Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, 67%.

• 2:29:46Speaker 04

  They voted for a policy that they're not seeing and the execution of it, that's why the president said the other day.

• 2:29:52Tom Ellsworth?

  But what you said, but what you said, hang on Jared. What you said a minute ago, I just want to make sure it's clear because there's two different things here. There's the policy they agreed with, that they voted for, that they still support to this day. And this is of all voters, the 67%. On the Republican side, it's like 88%. So that's the blend, but 38% say.

• 2:30:13Speaker 04

  By the way, that's why he should fire Noem. She's been a total disaster.

• 2:30:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Opening the door for that.

• 2:30:18Speaker 04

  Oh, well, let me open it for you.

• 2:30:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Jared, Jared, Jared, we like you. This has been going well.

• 2:30:23Speaker 04

  By the way, what happened to Trump? Hold on, what happened to Trump? Trump made tens of millions of dollars firing people weekly on television. People tuned in. It was much CTV.

• 2:30:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, see, this is what happens when a politician doesn't like numbers.

• 2:30:35Speaker 04

  Hold on, Eric on one side, Junior on the left. You're fired. People loved it. He was popular. And now he's like firing people's weakness. That's weakness.

• 2:30:44Speaker 05

  Can I, can I, can I say?

• 2:30:46Speaker 02

  You've already spoken, buddy.

• 2:30:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you're trying to be me right now?

• 2:30:48Speaker 05

  One, one small point.

• 2:30:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, my God.

• 2:30:49Speaker 05

  Can you at least admit, Congressman, that the look of what's happening is on, it's two-tiered. Number one, number one.

• 2:30:55Tom Ellsworth?

  We just figured it out.

• 2:30:56Speaker 05

  Uh huh. Well, number one, when you have, when you have the media who all despise him from CNN to MSNBC, they're ma- they're making the coverage and the, the way that they're reporting it is absolutely abysmal. Number one. Number two, when you have the, the sitting governor, the sitting mayor, Ilhan Omar, saying, and I, I take complete defense, I'm not Jewish, Congressman. When people say Hitler and Hitler, that's one of the, the, the worst thing that you can do. They've been calling freaking Trump and all this Gestapo. I think it's absolutely disgusting, especially when people have had family members lost under German rule. I think it's disgusting. When you have those people.

• 2:31:32Speaker 04

  By the way, Joe, Joe Rogan called them the Gestapo.

• 2:31:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, hold up, but we talked about that. But here's the thing, Congressman, if you have the leadership of the state saying Hitler, Gestapo, get in their face, do this, and then you have nurses going up to people with a gun on them, interfering with federal law enforcement, I know you know it's illegal, that is a problem. Okay, because at the end of the day, New York Times reported this and they didn't ha- they, they were, their minds were boggled. They didn't know where this came from. Murder is down 20%. Overdoses of drugs, heroin, fentanyl, everything is down all time low. They don't even know how to respond to it. Could that be because he's kicking all these people out? And I understand, I understand, with a mass, um, immigration deportation, there's gonna be people here, okay, we got this person wrong, we got this. That's gonna happen, but the media's making him look like he's a freaking.

• 2:32:20Speaker 05

  Maniac, which Obama's the number one guy. He's trying to catch Obama because he wants to be number one. And the fact that the governor, Tim Walz, is still saying it. He's Hitler, he's Nazi. Don't listen to them and get in their faces.

• 2:32:33Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll give you the final thoughts and I will wrap up. Go ahead, you can respond to that.

• 2:32:37Speaker 04

  What I was gonna say is you guys have the guy who did this deportation in Tom Homan. You have the guy, right? And what we're seeing, we didn't see masked men in the streets.

• 2:32:48Speaker 05

  But there was nobody recorded it. Nobody was recording it.

• 2:32:50Patrick Bet-David?

  The only thing I would say is, the only thing I would say is, I understand that argument. The difference is, when I'm calling from the White House and the president is a Democrat and I'm asking Minneapolis to cooperate and you're a Democrat, they do. When mine and Tom Homan's there, Tom Homan, he's my guy. My name is Barack Obama. Great, I'll take care of him and I'll give you what you want. Under Trump, when they call and these blue cities don't want to cooperate, whatever you want to call a sanctuary city, whatever reason, to make the president look bad, they're not working together as a team. So it makes it harder for ICE to do its job because there's a lack of cooperation. And I understand why they do that. It's politics, they need the exposure, they need the new, you know, things to see.

• 2:33:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Right now, data came up, you know what the data came up yesterday? MAGA, people that voted for Trump, you know what percent of them, they, uh, uh, Enten just did a new one, Rob, I don't know if you saw this from yesterday. I wasn't even gonna show this. But they showed that MAGA, right now, people that voted for Trump, is that it, Rob?

• 2:33:55Speaker 04

  Yes, sir.

• 2:33:55Patrick Bet-David?

  It just went even higher. This is yesterday.

• 2:33:57Speaker 05

  This is yesterday?

• 2:33:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Play the clip, Rob.

• 2:33:59Speaker 02

  Movement, again, that's what we're talking about. Make America Great Again movement, and it is as powerful as it has ever been. Because I want you to take a look here. GOP who view MAGA favorably. Two years ago, when Donald Trump was running for term number two, it was 74%. Today, look at this, it's 78%. 8% of Republicans who view the Make America Great Again movement favorably. So we're talking about something that in my opinion will very much be able to outlast Donald Trump. Trump is in term number two, he can't run for a term number three, but the bottom line is this. What he brought into the GOP, looks like it's going to last long. 10:40.

• 2:34:36Patrick Bet-David?

  It's 11:40. By the way, Jared, we've enjoyed it. It was actually a lot of fun. And we're gonna invite you more, are you, what do you, are you around here? I live in Parkland. Okay, fantastic. This was great. This was great. No, we like this. We like the banter. We like the exchange. As long as you're respectful and you're respectful, we enjoyed having you on. Rob, can we do me, can you do me a favor? Is Mateo here? Can we bring Mateo? Where's Mateo at? Can you check with Mateo if the truck is ready or no? Is he here? Mateo, can you bring, where are you at? Come on down. Come on down, come on down. Okay.

• 2:35:09Speaker 02

  Come on down to Chinatown.

• 2:35:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So, not only has MAGA went from 74 to 78%, but somebody's approval rating went from 45 to 46%, and that 46% is officially Adam's new age.

• 2:35:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Happy birthday, Adam. If you want to bring it up, we can sync for you on 3, 1, 2, 3.

• 2:35:32Speaker 02

  Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Thank you. Happy birthday, dear Adam.

• 2:35:44Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, it's amazing when your age actually equals your IQ, man.

• 2:35:47Speaker 02

  Thank you, guys.

• 2:35:49Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go, buddy.

• 2:35:49Speaker 02

  I don't appreciate this bad PR saying I'm 46. I'm 40-ish, PBD. I'm still 40, but... Good wish. Thank you. I saw you give me a shout out on Wednesday and I'm trying to make everybody proud and be pragmatic. And thank you for coming on today. Thank you for having me be a part of this. Respect to PBD and to all the haters out there, I still love you and to all the people that love me.

• 2:36:14Speaker 05

  Adam, good wish. Gonna blow it out with a good wish.

• 2:36:17Speaker 02

  I'm wishing for one thing. We know what it is.

• 2:36:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Mazel tov. There you go.

• 2:36:22Speaker 02

  Thank you. Appreciate you.

• 2:36:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Happy birthday, Rob. Pull up his manect. Folks, if you want to wish Adam a happy birthday or send a bunch of messages of you not being happy with him, there's the QR code. Wish him a happy birthday on manect. With that being said, gang, we will do it again next week. God bless everybody. Have a great weekend. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

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