Deion Sanders on Missing Shedeur, 90s Cowboys Aura and Becoming Prime Time | Ep 155

92%ers, welcome to another episode of New Heights brought to you by Reese’s Oreo® Cups! We’ve got an amazing guest episode for you today with NFL Hall of Famer Deion Sanders. Coach Prime joins Jason and Travis and gets into what life is like at Colorado now that his sons are gone, when he thinks Shedeur is going to make his debut in Cleveland, what actually happened on draft night, how he really felt about joining the 90s Cowboys, why Jerry Jones might be the greatest owner in sports,and we get the truth behind some of the best Deion rumors of all time. Watch and listen to new episodes of New Heights every Wednesday during the NFL season and follow us on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshow You can also listen to new episodes early and ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. . . . Download the full podcast here: Wondery: https://wondery.app.link/s9hHTgtXpMb Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynw Shop all the New Heights merch at https://homage.com/newheights Support the show: REESE’S OREO® CUPS: Grab REESE’S OREO® Cups today, wherever candy is sold! DRAFTKINGS: Don’t miss out on all the action this week at DraftKings! Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up using https://dkng.co/newheights or through my promo code NEWHEIGHTS. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/textHOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS).1 per new customer. $5+ first-time bet req. Max. $200 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: dkng.co/dk-offer-terms. Ends 2/9/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:59Speaker 01

  Thank you to our partner, Royal Caribbean.

• 1:02Travis Kelce?

  Dude, have you seen this? Royal Caribbean just dropped The Legend of the Seas. It's the biggest cruise ship on the planet. Like, nothing's even close to being this big. And it's sailing out of Fort Lauderdale, starting this November.

• 1:17Speaker 01

  That's right, this thing is stacked. Seven pools, more places to eat than you can even count. I mean, they have something for everybody.

• 1:26Travis Kelce?

  Like, bring the kids, bring mom and dad, shoot, bring the whole crew. Everybody's got a spot, that's what makes it special.

• 1:33Speaker 01

  And the entertainment, Latin music, ice skating, full-on Broadway shows. It's pretty amazing, pretty much everything you want in one place. Oh, and did I mention there's a water park?

• 1:43Travis Kelce?

  You didn't, and that's, that'd be the kicker for me.

• 1:45Speaker 01

  I love a water park.

• 1:46Travis Kelce?

  But the crazy one? Crown's Edge, a ropes course off the side of the ship, not for the faint of heart, brother.

• 1:55Speaker 01

  They've also got Playmaker, sports bar, and arcade. So that means games on every screen. I love a good arcade, sports place combination.

• 2:04Travis Kelce?

  All right, count me in. Get the family on the new Legend of the Seas, sailing November 2026 from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

• 2:12Speaker 01

  Visit royalcaribbean.com to learn more.

• 2:16Speaker 03

  The wrongs we must right, the fights we must win, the future we must secure together for our nation. This is what's in front of us. This determines what's next for all of us. We are Marines. We were made for this.

• 2:35Speaker 04

  My welcome to the NFL moment was housing that thing on the first game I played in against the Rams.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  That's a hell of a welcome. That's a good one.

• 2:44Speaker 04

  I dropped it, picked it up and housed it. And I can remember going downtown to the mall. I bought 11 Gucci watches for the whole punt return team.

• 2:53Travis Kelce?

  Special teams? Ah, man, this is electric.

• 2:57Speaker 04

  And I wrote on the card, every fourth down, I just wanted y'all to know what time it was.

• 3:02Travis Kelce?

  That is so good.

• 3:12Travis Kelce?

  Welcome back to New Heights. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of Wondery Show, brought to you by Reese's Oreo Cups, the delicious peanut butter cups with the Oreo cookie combined, goddamn. We are your hosts. I'm Travis Kelce, my big brother Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Subscribe on YouTube, Wondery Plus, wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one S for fun clips throughout the week. 92%ers, we got an incredible guest episode, man. He's been one of the main people that I've looked up to my entire life that I've always wanted to get on this show and it's finally happening.

• 3:47Speaker 01

  It's pretty incredible.

• 3:48Travis Kelce?

  We got a great episode. Jason, why don't you do the honors and tell everybody what we got coming up today?

• 3:52Speaker 01

  Before we get to that, Travis, let's put them on.

• 3:55Travis Kelce?

  Woo hoo, baby.

• 3:58Speaker 01

  There we go. We got a fun one right now.

• 4:02Travis Kelce?

  See what time it is. Oh, yeah. Hold up. Hold up. Excuse me. I think money's on the line, baby.

• 4:14Speaker 01

  Our guest today is a six foot one shutdown quarterback from Florida State University. He was the fifth overall pick in the 1989 NFL draft. He's a six time all pro, eight time pro board, one time defensive player of the year and a member of the NFL Hall of Fame. He's a two thousand Super Bowl champion and the only person in history to play in a Super Bowl and a World Series. You know him as Neon Dion, prime time, and most recently, Coach Prime. Ninety two percenters, please welcome Deion Sanders.

• 4:53Speaker 04

  That's how I'm waking up now. I'm not getting out of my bed unless I hear that. I'm not getting.

• 4:59Travis Kelce?

  Coach, this is the least we can do, man. We appreciate you taking the time, man. How we, how we doing this week? We getting the guys, we getting, we getting the guys back on, back on track?

• 5:06Speaker 04

  We got no choice. We ain't got no choice, right?

• 5:09Travis Kelce?

  There we go. I'm, I'm right there with you. I'm right there with you, Coach. I'm right there with you, man. How did you, how did we walk into the building today? That's what I want to know, man.

• 5:18Speaker 04

  You know what, man? The whole thing is accountability. That's my word of the week. Everybody's accountable, baby. Everybody's accountable. We gotta step it up. We gotta go to the next level. And you can't want the, the, the good, pretty shiny stuff if you're not really ready to do the good, pretty shiny things.

• 5:35Travis Kelce?

  I love it. I love it, man.

• 5:37Speaker 01

  Well said.

• 5:37Travis Kelce?

  Getting after that's, and that's exactly the, the message that Coach Reed actually had for us is just accountability, man. As long as you're bringing that energy and you're holding yourself accountable, we're gonna be just fine. We're gonna be just fine.

• 5:48Speaker 04

  It's gonna be all right.

• 5:49Speaker 01

  Well, Coach, we start everything off with a little bit of new news and uh, how about you start us off a little bit of that new news? We, I know you're recently dropping your new Prime 21 apparel.

• 5:59Travis Kelce?

  Yes, sir.

• 5:59Speaker 01

  High stepper socks, cowboy hats, these shades, bro, these shades are ridiculous.

• 6:04Speaker 04

  Shades of ball.

• 6:05Speaker 01

  Man, these are nice.

• 6:06Speaker 04

  Shades of ball.

• 6:07Speaker 01

  Come on now.

• 6:08Speaker 04

  I'm gonna tell you something about the socks. See, Kelsey, back in the day, they thought I just wore my socks scrunched down, but I actually had them made like this.

• 6:18Travis Kelce?

  Really?

• 6:19Speaker 01

  I didn't know that.

• 6:20Travis Kelce?

  Everybody's been faking it this whole time.

• 6:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, everybody's been trying to replicate. They can't do it.

• 6:24Speaker 04

  They were made like this. So when I pulled them up, it just had that appearance. It had that look, but they were made like that.

• 6:31Speaker 01

  I love it. I love it. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

• 6:33Travis Kelce?

  It's like, listen, everybody wants to be like prime. At what point in your life, Coach, did you know you had people gravitating towards you because of the personality that you had?

• 6:44Speaker 04

  I was a little, you know, like you wouldn't believe it now because I, you know, I know when I got to put on, I got to show out. I got to show up and show out. But I'm a, I'm a, I'm a homebody, man. I don't go out. I don't club. I don't kick it. I don't smoke. I don't drink. Never tasted alcohol. Never been high there in my life. I don't, I don't like out. Like, I don't mind playing in front of crowds and selling stadiums out, but I don't like crowds. I don't like to be in crowds or around a lot of people. I'm a home guy. Like, I'm, I'm in it by seven, man. Like I, I never went out after games because I always had migraines because I was so hyped during the games. Coming down always gave me migraines. So I had to go right home with ice packs on my neck and they had no cure for it.

• 7:29Speaker 04

  I had all kinds of stuff going on, but I couldn't, I could never celebrate like that. I, I never was that type of guy that my persona led me to be.

• 7:38Travis Kelce?

  I hear you.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, absolutely. That is, yeah. The persona is definitely what everybody knows you as, the freaking prime time. I mean, come on now. That was our entire childhood. Watching that was incredible.

• 7:48Travis Kelce?

  I'm just glad they're bringing back the kicks.

• 7:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:51Travis Kelce?

  I'm just glad they're bringing back the kicks.

• 7:53Speaker 04

  Which one?

• 7:54Travis Kelce?

  The diamond turfs.

• 7:55Speaker 04

  Which, which one?

• 7:58Travis Kelce?

  Every, every colorway, man. Every single colorway.

• 8:03Travis Kelce?

  You know, I got all of them, Coach. You know, I got all of them. I need every single one. They don't, they don't. They don't make it with good leather like this anymore. Coach, I appreciate you bringing them back.

• 8:14Speaker 04

  I got you.

• 8:14Speaker 01

  One of the things that's been so fun to watch is you taking that personality and that energy to the college football ranks and coaching ranks. Like it's, you've completely changed the game. You're still a Colorado, but now the thing that's changed this year is your sons aren't there anymore.

• 8:28Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 8:28Speaker 01

  What's it been like now that your kids have moved on in their careers? Yeah. What's it like coaching now?

• 8:36Speaker 04

  Tough jokes.

• 8:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:37Speaker 04

  That they clowning me right now and I'm pounding them right back. Like we just, I just.

• 8:44Speaker 04

  It is just, you know, we got this family chat. Then we got the girls involved with the chat. Then we just got all the boys and all the girls. We got all different kinds of chats because we got five kids. So right now they on my butt. I just told Shador, I know you miss me. Oh, you miss me.

• 9:04Travis Kelce?

  Did it twist it?

• 9:05Speaker 04

  But you know what, man? I definitely miss him because this all my life, they've been there. They've been there and they've been right there with me the whole separate way. My oldest son is still here and doing all the social stuff, but I definitely miss my other two sons. I certainly do. And my daughter that was playing basketball here, she at Alabama A and M right now.

• 9:23Travis Kelce?

  That had to be such a special, special time in your life to be able to do that with your kids like that, man. I think everybody in the football world could only dream of being able to do something that you did like that, man.

• 9:35Speaker 04

  We don't know no other way. We didn't know another way. Like all our lives, that's, that's the only way we knew. So we, we never knew another way of how it's supposed to be. We thought that's how it's supposed to be.

• 9:47Travis Kelce?

  You got a new quarterback under your hands. Martin Luther Staub.

• 9:53Travis Kelce?

  Man, with the I had a dream of being here and doing it. The interview after the first game was electric, man. But right now it's, I'm not sure how the NIL world has changed when you knew college to be when you were at Florida State. But how difficult is that navigating the new world that is amongst the NIL deals in college?

• 10:15Speaker 04

  Let me take you back a minute. I think I was actually the first NIL deal. Because my junior year, I didn't play baseball at Florida State, but I got drafted by the Yankees. So I accepted professional cash, which allowed me to be a walk-on coming back my senior year of football. So I went and played my whole summer, six weeks. I played rookie league for two weeks in Sarasota. I played single A for two weeks in Fort Lauderdale, then I went to triple A for two weeks in Columbus. All in a, then I came back, you know, in August to get ready for camp. That is so wild. Football. So since I accepted money from pros, I was a walk-on.

• 10:56Travis Kelce?

  That's crazy.

• 10:58Speaker 04

  Yankees paid my scholarship, but you couldn't tell me nothing, okay? Like you couldn't tell. Of course. Yeah, right. Yeah.

• 11:06Speaker 04

  I got a neck full of gold. I got big Louis bags.

• 11:12Speaker 04

  That's when it's, that's when the price start really jumped up because I had justification. Yeah, for sure. That's amazing.

• 11:19Travis Kelce?

  That's such a crazy world, man. And obviously it kind of primed you, primed you up and got you ready for when you went to the pros. And played in two different professional leagues in the same day.

• 11:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, but man, it was my life, fellas. Like, like, to me, it was nothing big because that was my life. Like all my life, I had played baseball, football and basketball. So even in high school, I remember playing in the basketball All-Star game, the same day the baseball All-Star game was. We played baseball during that day. The basketball game was that night. So I was used to that. So when I get to college, how can somebody tell you what you can't do? And this is the only life I knew. I didn't know another life. So that's why when it got to the pro level, I'm like, how you telling me I can't do this? And this is all I know. I don't know. I don't know no other way.

• 12:10Travis Kelce?

  We definitely played multiple sports growing up and I tried to do the football, basketball thing. When I say I tried, I asked and they said, yeah, you can come on. You're going to get a football scholarship. You're going to play football until football season is over with, and then you're going to go play basketball. And then there was the whole, you have to be responsible, Travis. And that's what I was. So I, the accountability and how responsible you were, you had everything in line. And that's the type of dedication it takes for somebody to be not only just a two sports star, but maybe even a two position star like you had with Travis Hunter last year.

• 12:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, man.

• 12:46Travis Kelce?

  How have you seen him kind of come into his role with Jacksonville? Do you like how he's being used yet?

• 12:51Speaker 04

  No, no, no, definitely not. They're not using him enough. Like, you know, I seen it with my own eyes on an everyday basis for three straight years. So I know what he's capable of and I know how you got to take care of him. He never practiced on Tuesdays. He's practiced on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. He was ready to play hundreds of snaps on Saturday. So you didn't need to use him.

• 13:11Travis Kelce?

  That's crazy.

• 13:13Speaker 04

  On a Tuesday or Monday, you don't use him like that. But Travis is a big kid, man. He just loves the game. He loves football. He loves studying. He loves the preparation. He always had at least five hours of studying each week because we keep that, we keep that list. We know how much everybody's studying. And he is just a phenomenal athlete, one of the greatest I've ever seen do both simultaneously. And he dominated. My rule is I'll let anybody do it. As long as you dominate. You got to be dominant.

• 13:42Speaker 01

  You got to get it done.

• 13:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, you got to get it done. I can't let you out there. You getting killed on the corner, but you playing.

• 13:48Travis Kelce?

  No, no, no.

• 13:51Speaker 01

  Obviously Travis Hunter, the big number one pick out there. You've had a couple of other players, obviously your son Shador, LeJonte Wester with the Ravens and Jimmy Horn with the Panthers. I guess as Browns fans, we got to know. Have you been keeping up with Shador in Cleveland?

• 14:06Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 14:06Speaker 01

  What's the best piece of advice you've given him as a dad and as a coach?

• 14:09Speaker 04

  Be patient and be ready.

• 14:10Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 14:11Speaker 04

  Be patient and be ready.

• 14:12Speaker 01

  That's all you can do.

• 14:12Speaker 04

  I don't want you, they call your name and you ain't ready. Don't, don't, don't, don't let that. We, we ain't built like that. Sanders, we ain't built like that. We always ready. We don't have to get ready. We just ready. And I want you to be patient. You don't force nothing that ain't, that, that it may not be time. You know, I drink coffee every morning. There's one thing I do. I don't pull the coffee cup off the darn makeup before it's ready. It's got to be prepared, right?

• 14:40Speaker 04

  Put my ingredients in, I make it right. But I'm like, son, you gotta, you gotta be ready. You gotta be ready when it's time. But when it's time, you gonna know. I say, and it's coming up. You know, I got a prediction. I ain't telling nobody. I, I, I got a feeling when it's gonna go down. But it's gonna go down.

• 14:55Speaker 01

  It's gonna happen. All right.

• 14:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, he gonna get a shot.

• 14:58Speaker 01

  And that's all you can ask for as a player. All you can ask for is the opportunity, right?

• 15:01Speaker 04

  Tell me this, because this was all over the media, because I know y'all keep it a buck. That's why I love y'all to life and mama too. Please tell mama I said that.

• 15:10Speaker 04

  Let me tell you something. How in the world, they made a big deal out of. Philly called us on draft day. Uh, they didn't mention that. I, I just let a cat out of the bag.

• 15:20Speaker 01

  Okay. No, it's good. I didn't know that. Yeah. Okay.

• 15:23Speaker 04

  Uh, who was it? Baltimore and

• 15:27Travis Kelce?

  I heard this. Yeah.

• 15:28Speaker 04

  In the Browns. They forget. I know I, I played for Baltimore. So me and Ozzy are cool. So

• 15:34Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 15:34Speaker 04

  We understood that whole conversation and he wanted to talk to Shador as well as you want to talk to me. And I put Shador on the phone and Shador, I don't want to say how it went, but how in the world can somebody fault him for saying, or thinking, why in the world would I go back up Lamar for 10 more years? Like who, who comes in with that mindset?

• 15:57Speaker 01

  No, that's not where you want to go. If you're, if you, if the goal is to be that guy and you want to be the player

• 16:03Speaker 04

  Right.

• 16:04Speaker 01

  And the number

• 16:04Travis Kelce?

  And you want to get that opportunity.

• 16:06Speaker 04

  Yeah. But what, where do these guys come from that sit on these platforms and say, oh, you should have sat in behind and, and learned the game and been, uh, what they developed? Wouldn't have the pros ever developed anybody?

• 16:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, it don't happen very often.

• 16:21Speaker 04

  By the time you get to the NFL, they expect you to know what you need to do and to do it, or somebody else go get in there and do it. Now they teach you that playbook, but development and teaching you how to route folks up and you had to block and, and, and hold that point, man, please. Ain't nobody taught you that.

• 16:40Travis Kelce?

  You gotta figure it out on your own, man.

• 16:42Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 16:44Travis Kelce?

  I've been trying to teach some guys that have come, come in and out of the building or, or all across that ask you, you know, how, how do you run your route like this? How do you run your route like that? I'm like, man, you just gotta run it enough to figure it out.

• 16:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, right.

• 16:55Speaker 01

  Like for me, I was a six round draft pick and I got drafted to a team in Philadelphia that wanted a new center. I was so lucky to get into a position where they were like, just don't fuck this up, Jason, and you can be the starter. Like we want you to play. And that's like, if I would have went behind, if I would have went behind Kevin Mawai or, uh, you know, I'm trying to think of who the other centers were. The Alex Mack or some of these guys and sat like, yeah, I would have learned something from, but it was much better for me and my career to get an opportunity to go and play right away. I ain't no question. And if I, I wouldn't have changed that for a second. Don't matter what I'm going to learn or develop anywhere else.

• 17:36Speaker 04

  I've never sat on the bench and said, well, I learned a lot today.

• 17:42Speaker 01

  That is a fucking great quote. Goddamn, that is a good quote.

• 17:46Speaker 04

  Who learns sitting on the bench? Like who, who, who does that?

• 17:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're gonna learn a lot more being out there. We did want to bring up, you've been known to rank your kids. What's the latest ranking?

• 17:58Travis Kelce?

  Where are we at right now?

• 18:00Speaker 04

  First of all, y'all parents rank y'all, y'all just don't know. Okay?

• 18:03Speaker 01

  No, for sure. Mom's always had Travis number one. I do know.

• 18:07Travis Kelce?

  Listen, and right now, right now, mom has Jason number one because he has kids.

• 18:12Speaker 01

  That is true. She has said that. She has made that comment. She's put some pressure on him.

• 18:16Speaker 04

  So what you waiting on, though? So what you waiting on? You know, like I tell my kids, I know we've had some close calls. I tell my kids.

• 18:26Speaker 04

  You know, we sit at the edge of the bed like, oh, Lord, if you get me out of this one.

• 18:32Speaker 04

  I promise you I'll be a church son. I promise you, Lord.

• 18:36Speaker 04

  I rate my kids, man. Like, I love them differently. I don't love them the same. This is honest. I know which one is gonna take care of me when I'm, when I'm older. I know which one is gonna ask me for money when I'm older. I know which one.

• 18:48Speaker 04

  Keeps me on my knees in front of God. I know, I know I'm like a book. All you have to do is just describe what happened and I can tell you which one did it. Like, that's how knowledgeable I am with my kids and I love them differently.

• 18:59Travis Kelce?

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• 19:02Speaker 01

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• 19:07Travis Kelce?

  That's true. Otherwise, you're just out there running cardio. Can't get open for a big play.

• 19:14Speaker 01

  But it's not just football. There's a lot of things you need to prevent before they start.

• 19:18Travis Kelce?

  Yeah, like in your mouth.

• 19:20Speaker 01

  My mouth specifically?

• 19:21Travis Kelce?

  I mean, probably yours too, but I'm talking everybody's mouth. There's bacteria in there that can lead to oral health problems like cavities, gingivitis.

• 19:33Speaker 01

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• 19:44Travis Kelce?

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• 19:51Speaker 01

  And it's not just one contributing player either. It's a whole system. Toothpaste, mouthwash, and a special toothbrush.

• 19:59Travis Kelce?

  Now that's the squad you want fighting for your mouth.

• 20:02Speaker 01

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• 20:09Travis Kelce?

  Get Colgate Total on Amazon today.

• 20:13Speaker 01

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• 20:16Travis Kelce?

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• 20:20Speaker 01

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• 20:26Travis Kelce?

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• 20:34Speaker 01

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• 20:39Travis Kelce?

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• 20:46Speaker 01

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• 21:22Speaker 01

  Let's transition to playing prime time.

• 21:26Speaker 04

  Oh, man.

• 21:27Speaker 01

  The one that we grew up, I mean, just the incredible, not just play, it wasn't just that you were a player. That was spectacular, but it was everything. The bravado, like the the whole show was just incredible to watch. And it all really took off with the 90s Cowboys. So recently, Netflix put out America's Team Documentary about the 90s Cowboys. I mean, what was it like playing on this team, Coach?

• 21:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, unbelievable, unbelievable. Like, I was just going through like a personal kind of hell at the time. I left San Fran, you know, it was like I need challenge, I needed challenges in my life. I'm like, okay, let me go to San Fran. Okay, we beat Cowboys. Oh, boom. Jerry Jones wants me to go there. Let me go there and see if we could beat San Fran now. It's like I needed challenges in my life. And you know, I called Mike, playmakers like a brother to me, man. We, we was, oh, we had a bunch of Florida boys that played for Cowboys at the time. I say, how is it, man? Cause I ain't with no jealousy. I ain't got time for this, man. Every locker room I've been in, it's been some bull junk. I ain't got time for that. Mike said, we good over here, baby. We Florida boys over here. Emmett Mike, Big Nate, you know, all my guys.

• 22:33Speaker 04

  Okay, so it was unbelievable, man. Jerry Jones will go down and should go down as history. As arguably the best owner that ever owned a football franchise. Because of this, you, you hear media talk about Jerry, you've never heard a player. Talk about Jerry Jones in a negative fashion. Cause he is unbelievable. I had the luxury to play for Eddie DeBarlo, who was unbelievable. And some other ones in Steve Bishotti later on in life. But let me tell you something, man. The Cowboys, you talking about America's team and when you travel and when you go places, it's probably like it is. But Kelce, you know, right now, they see it's probably the same way.

• 23:13Speaker 04

  Philly fans are crazy. They'll kill you, shank you in.

• 23:21Speaker 04

  It was unbelievable, man. It really was. It was experience. We were too young and dumb to really know the level of it.

• 23:27Travis Kelce?

  I can only imagine what it was. I mean, it took it by storm and it literally became the biggest franchise in sports. Because of those years, are, is that like your favorite team? That you were on?

• 23:39Speaker 04

  Atlanta was my favorite team. We had so much fun, man. I mean, we got our butts kicked. We, I think we went to a playoff. We had so much fun, man. I think we had a team meeting in Magic City every Friday night, you know, it was just crazy. We had so much fun. Shout out to Magic. It was so much fun. But the Dallas Cowboys were different. San Francisco was business. It was like business. And I love that it was business. But then you got to Dallas and you won like they did in San Fran, but you had fun. Winning. And you enjoyed all your teammates and all the laughter and the banter that went on.

• 24:14Speaker 01

  I gotta say from this documentary in Dallas. As an Eagles fan, you're like, or as an Eagles player, and on this side of it, you're taught to hate Jerry Jones. I gotta say, I kinda like what I'm seeing. I gotta, I gotta admit when

• 24:30Speaker 04

  That's a smooth operator right there, man.

• 24:32Speaker 01

  Between this documentary and then his, uh, his deal on Landman, when he talks about buying the franchise and like his family and everything. I'm like, you know what? I'm kinda turning into a Jerry guy. I kinda like what I, what I'm being told.

• 24:43Speaker 04

  Let me, let me tell you one quick story about Jerry. Once upon a time, I'm, I'm watching ESPN and this guy is about to go crazy. You remember him. Dick Kelce, I call it Dick Kelce, look. Um, Lonzo Spellman, Lonzo Spell.

• 24:56Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 24:56Speaker 04

  I mean, arms hanging down to his knees, just, just shredded, ripped, just unbelievable. And he was going through something in this like crazy house or whatever they admitted him to in Chicago. And I said, Jerry, I could help him. I could help you.

• 25:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:11Speaker 04

  He flew his jet to pick the kid up, brought him to the Cowboys and changed his life, man.

• 25:19Speaker 01

  That's me.

• 25:20Speaker 04

  Changed his life and he end up balling out for us, you know, signing another deal. Then he ended up, he had a decision whether to stay there or go to Detroit or, uh, uh, New England somewhere. I think he chose Detroit. I don't know if it worked out, but changed that, it's life, man. But that's the kind of guy Jerry was. Like if you said, hey, man, go get that dude. He could help us. Jerry was gonna go get him. If he felt like he could help the team. That's the kind of cat Jerry was. Man, that's the kind of guy you want to play for, man. Yeah, yeah.

• 25:48Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 25:49Speaker 04

  We wanted to win for him. Zim and, uh, you know, the whole darn shebang, man. We just want, we had a great group of coaches. Uh, I love me some Barry Switzer, man. That was my dude, man. That was my dude. Jerry gave me my first, got me my first bass boat from Jerry Riddle. He called me in the office. I know.

• 26:07Speaker 04

  I said, man, I heard you make fishing, prim. I said, yeah, I do. He said, man, you go down now 35 and ask for Jerry Riddle. Tell him, uh, Barry sent you. Then they gave me a 21 foot pro craft. I'd never forgot that day, man. I was standing on the lake. I mean, standing on the lake, man.

• 26:22Speaker 04

  How many you catch that day? I don't know, but I look good.

• 26:28Speaker 04

  That was my first time I was a fly fisherman. I don't fly fish, but I, no, no, I was a fly fisherman. Oh, there we go, there we go.

• 26:39Travis Kelce?

  Too good, man. Who was the one quarterback you loved playing the most? Either out of respect or the fact that he just was silly enough to keep throwing the ball your way?

• 26:47Speaker 04

  Cat from the Rams, the cat from the Rams used to always have something for me, man. Oh, what was his name?

• 26:53Travis Kelce?

  Uh, Jim Everett?

• 26:55Speaker 04

  Jim Everett, Jim Everett had a bull on that thing. He had a bull on that thing for me, man.

• 27:03Travis Kelce?

  My God. I got a, I got a, I got a good story. I don't know if it's mine to tell, but I'm gonna tell it. Andy Reid was telling me, I, I wear your shoes in the facility. I, I rock them at, whenever we're on the field, we're not doing like, uh, anything up tempo and stuff like that. I'm always rocking your kicks. And he asked me, what are those, what are those shoes? And I told him, I was like, they're from, they're from the nineties. They're Deion Sanders, uh, diamond turfs. And he said, man, he just shook his head and he was like, you know, when we played him, when he was in Green Bay coaching with, uh, Brett Favre, he was the quarterbacks coach. He said, he told Favre before the game, he's like, listen, whatever you do, just not that side of the field. Just don't do it. Just don't do it. It's not even worth it. Just keep, just go over here, you'll be fine, we'll be fine.

• 27:45Travis Kelce?

  He said, within the first handful of plays, he tested the waters and he said, he walked over to the sideline. He couldn't even look Brett in the face because you picked it up.

• 27:55Speaker 04

  It was a house call, but you gotta understand why Brett trapped me. Brett was my teammate in Atlanta.

• 28:00Travis Kelce?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Rookie, rookie year Brett.

• 28:03Speaker 04

  He was traded to the, the reason he was traded to Green Bay is because Brett used to tell the starting quarterback, Chris Miller at the time, hey, go on out there messing up, I'll be in about the third quarter.

• 28:18Speaker 04

  That's serious, man. That was crazy, man. Brett, that was an unbelievable talent. We knew he was gonna be a guy like his rookie year, he didn't know what, you know, what was going on, where the ball was going. I just know, he would just stop on a dime on the scout team and throw a rope 40 yards. Like, we knew he had it. And they had to get him out of there because he was putting too much pressure on the starter. But we knew Brett was gonna be that guy.

• 28:41Travis Kelce?

  I'll tell you what, I kinda have a similar, because Mahomes didn't play his rookie year either. He didn't play till the last game when we already knew we were, we had the, uh, the playoff seed locked in and man, those, some of those scout team looks.

• 28:56Speaker 04

  Oh my God.

• 28:57Travis Kelce?

  Of him just running around, throwing it across and we're like, man, this is, this is insane. I don't know what we're doing here. This, this is the most incredible like way I've ever seen anybody play the game of football.

• 29:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:09Travis Kelce?

  And we're just like, there's no way he could do this in the game. He's got to be a little bit more polished and shaven up, man. The first year he starts, man, 50 touchdowns, 5,000 yards. I'm just like, oh no, he can, he, he, he's got the cojones to do it in the, in the NFL too.

• 29:22Speaker 04

  I love Andy, man. I love your team and the whole makeup of it and, uh, you know, those personalities, you know, I know, once you start winning, winning, winning, you know, those personalities start being taken away from you and you gotta try to replace it with, and subsidize some of it. And it's tough. Both of you guys have dealt with that.

• 29:39Travis Kelce?

  But.

• 29:39Speaker 04

  Yes. I, I, I, I love it, man. I just love what Andy Reid represents to the NFL, man. I've always have respected him tremendously, man.

• 29:50Travis Kelce?

  I wouldn't be the same player I am right now if it wasn't for that guy.

• 29:53Speaker 04

  Yeah. You know, he, he should love the Mike Vick. That's one of the main reasons because he, you know, he took your mic.

• 29:59Speaker 01

  That was the first quarterback I ever snapped to in the NFL. I mean, that was wild.

• 30:03Travis Kelce?

  I was about to say, I saw Jason taking snaps from Michael Vick. I'm just like, oh shit, this is really happening.

• 30:08Speaker 01

  You go from the Cincinnati Bearcats to snapping it to Michael Vick. I was like, this is a little bit different.

• 30:15Speaker 01

  Let me ask you this. You brought up personalities. Those Cowboys teams, you, Michael Irvin, Emmett Troy, what would that team do in today's NFL? How would they fare against a Philadelphia Eagles, 2024 Kansas City Chiefs team?

• 30:31Speaker 04

  I'll tell you what, man. It would have been a battle. I think, I, I would always say, I think we would have won it because simply.

• 30:38Speaker 01

  Have to.

• 30:39Speaker 04

  Because that whole darn offensive line was Pro Bowlers. The whole line. Then you got tight end Jayden Overcheck killing everybody, you know, like Kelce. Then you got Mike doing what he did, Emmett doing what he did. Then on the flip side, you got Charles Haley coming off that edge. I got this side, just put him on the other side and flush the quarterback, make him throw to me. So we, we, you know, we had that thing. Darren Woodson back there doing his thing. Leon Lett. I mean, it was, it was stacked.

• 31:03Speaker 01

  It was everywhere.

• 31:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:04Speaker 01

  Everywhere.

• 31:05Speaker 04

  Forward. It was crazy, man.

• 31:07Speaker 01

  We just put on that clip of Larry Allen chasing down a linebacker. I guess I didn't understand. It's still the most impressive thing I've ever seen an offensive lineman do on an NFL field.

• 31:15Speaker 04

  Him working out was the most impressive thing I've seen. Him working out in the weight room.

• 31:19Speaker 01

  There's that, there's that Pro Bowl one where he's doing the bench press. I'm sure you've seen some even better ones.

• 31:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, man. But you see the way he worked in practice. I mean, it was, it was violent, man. It was, it was violent. Yeah, he was violent.

• 31:32Speaker 01

  Do you think it's harder or easier to be a, a defensive back in today's game?

• 31:36Speaker 04

  Or it depending on what type of defensive back you are. Like, if you defensive back that they want to see play, they gonna ride with you.

• 31:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:44Speaker 04

  Yeah. And understand, I'm the only guy that swung on a man and didn't get thrown out of game.

• 31:49Speaker 01

  There we go.

• 31:53Travis Kelce?

  We gotta keep 2-1 in the game, man.

• 31:55Speaker 01

  Gotta take care of our stars now.

• 31:57Speaker 04

  It would have been interesting. The game has changed so darn much and, uh, you know, they want to see a lot of points scored. But also, you know, if you stop it, you gotta get the football. You gotta, you gotta punt it. You gotta throw it. You gotta punt it. You gonna see me one way or another, or I jump on offense and play some offense. You gonna see me.

• 32:14Travis Kelce?

  I love it, man.

• 32:15Speaker 01

  Are there, are there any like modern corners that impress? Like who, who are the best in the game?

• 32:19Speaker 04

  I don't watch it too much, man. I gotta study his college.

• 32:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, you got, you got your hands full. Yeah, that's fair.

• 32:25Speaker 04

  I like some old school cats, but I ain't, I don't have time to invest in like I used to, you know?

• 32:31Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 32:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, I, I don't have time to, to put in. I, I watch, you know, I watch Kelce because he my dog and he, you know, I want to see what dance he does after he scores, you know?

• 32:39Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 32:41Travis Kelce?

  I got a good one for you. Next one.

• 32:42Speaker 04

  See, I want to see him walk to the game. I want to see what he wearing, you know? Then I want to see what he do in the game. Then I want to see what he's wearing. Like, I want to see all that.

• 32:50Travis Kelce?

  Worked too hard not to have fun with the prime.

• 32:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, but you get it. Like you get it. You get it. Tell me, when did you start getting it?

• 32:57Travis Kelce?

  I would say I, I probably started, started to really, uh, Figured out my, my second year playing in the league. That's when I finally felt like I could, like I belonged. And that's when I really started to get comfortable in my own skin, man. I was always a guy that had fun doing what I wanted to do, but I didn't have the professionalism. That responsibility I was telling you about why I didn't do dual sport. Once I started to be responsible in how I was conducting my professionalism. That's when I really started to get it and have.

• 33:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you always had the fun with it. Even in high school, you was, you were always like that.

• 33:30Speaker 04

  But when, when did the personality come from even you? When did the personality come? How many, how many Lyman are on TV? Let's just get this straight.

• 33:38Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, that's, that's, that's a unique thing. Yeah, it doesn't happen very often, but.

• 33:42Speaker 04

  Let's just talk about it, all right?

• 33:46Speaker 04

  Let's just get this straight. Do you know how good you have to be to conquer the Lyman everywhere and on national commercials? You're like, you gotta be there.

• 33:56Travis Kelce?

  One of one.

• 33:57Speaker 01

  All right, fair enough, fair enough. But I don't got nothing, nowhere near the personality that Trav does.

• 34:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, but when did it happen? But it had to kick in for you sometime like you had to say, you know what? I got something here, like I got something.

• 34:08Travis Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 34:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know. You playing with good players, the Sean McCoy, the Sean Jackson, freaking. Yeah, it definitely manifests and sticks on you for sure.

• 34:17Speaker 04

  How about both these guys coaching, man? And I love them to life, man. Like those are my guys. I talk to them all the time. I try to encourage them all the time. I'm so proud of them, I don't know what to do, man.

• 34:28Speaker 06

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• 35:46Speaker 01

  All right, we're gonna get to this next section. It's called, "We Gotta Ask." All right?

• 35:50Speaker 04

  Okay, I'mma ask back too. I'mma ask back. I just want y'all.

• 35:53Speaker 01

  You were the first athlete to hit a homerun and score a touchdown in the same week.

• 35:58Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 35:58Speaker 01

  Which, which was harder?

• 36:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, hitting that curveball.

• 36:04Speaker 01

  Yes. I think it's gotta be the hardest thing in sports, right?

• 36:07Speaker 04

  It is.

• 36:07Speaker 01

  Hitting?

• 36:08Speaker 04

  It is. It is consistently. I want consistent with it, but hitting it, yeah, that was the, that was the toughest thing ever.

• 36:14Speaker 01

  Got it. All right.

• 36:15Travis Kelce?

  Which sport does you love the most, Bron?

• 36:17Speaker 04

  Football. I could roll out of bed and do that. I can roll out of bed and do that. I remember we, we lost in the playoffs on a Wednesday night. We had a Thursday night football game. I remember calling my, uh, he's passed away now, Whitey Zimmerman. I said, "Whitey, get it ready, baby. Get it ready, get it ready." He said, "Momma, what's ahead of you?" We was playing the Rams, Los Angeles Rams that Thursday night, and I played that game. I didn't even know half the team. I remember going out there starting and they was tearing this other corner up. I don't even know who it was. I said, "Look at him, man. Get out."

• 36:46Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 36:46Speaker 04

  You, I just pointed to the guy on the sideline. You get in, call cover two, kick to him. I got my side on the backside. We good. That's how we gonna do this.

• 36:55Travis Kelce?

  Running it, man. I love this shit.

• 36:57Speaker 01

  All right. There's a myth at the NFL Combine, you literally ran the 40 and kept running until you were out of the building.

• 37:03Speaker 04

  That's not true.

• 37:03Speaker 01

  Is this a myth? It's not true?

• 37:05Speaker 04

  No, that's not true.

• 37:06Speaker 01

  I thought that was true.

• 37:07Speaker 04

  No, I ran a 4-2 for breakfast, but the rest of it wasn't true.

• 37:13Speaker 01

  That's one of my favorites.

• 37:15Speaker 04

  I'm too respectful.

• 37:18Speaker 04

  Now, the bench press part, I was in there engaging in a good conversation and they had, they do the bench press and they said Sanders and I was still was in this conversation Sanders. I said, no, no, no, no, no. Ain't nobody finna lay across my hands and let me bench press.

• 37:34Speaker 04

  I'm good.

• 37:36Speaker 01

  Got nothing to do with me.

• 37:38Speaker 04

  That's a true statement.

• 37:39Speaker 01

  Now the true or false, didn't finish his Giants interview because they had the 10th pick and he'd be gone by then. Is that true?

• 37:47Speaker 04

  That's true. That's probably why they did with my son. But anyway, we going, we gonna talk about that.

• 37:51Speaker 01

  All right. Then we don't even need to get there. Yeah.

• 37:54Travis Kelce?

  What was more of your signature, your high step to the end zone or the strut when you got in the end zone? The dance when you got in the end zone?

• 38:02Speaker 04

  I think the high step to the.

• 38:04Speaker 01

  The high step is what I think of for sure.

• 38:06Travis Kelce?

  The fact that you could do that running 22 miles per hour, high stepping like that. I'm still mind blown because every time I try and high step, I drop back to about 15 miles per hour. Yeah, I like, I'm getting slower. It looks like you're going faster.

• 38:22Speaker 04

  You looking, but you look, you look good, though. You look good, though. That's the thing.

• 38:26Speaker 01

  Well, how many times has that been replicated? Like, I just think every player has tried, has done the high step since then to try and replicate it. Like, that is just such an iconic moment of NFL history. That's the first thing I think of. That's for dang sure.

• 38:41Travis Kelce?

  We gotta get Jason high stepping, man.

• 38:43Speaker 01

  I can't, listen, these hammies can't high step. That ain't in my, my hamstrings. I wish I could. Is it true that your name is actually spelled Dion, D I O N on your birth certificate?

• 38:55Speaker 04

  You, where you guys getting this stuff from?

• 38:58Speaker 01

  We got some good research. We got some good researchers. That's true.

• 39:01Travis Kelce?

  It's true.

• 39:02Speaker 04

  That's true. But let me tell you what I did. See, you know, you're going to school, learning how to spell.

• 39:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:08Speaker 04

  And we all learned the song. If I say the first part, you gotta finish the second part. Old McDonnell had a farm.

• 39:16Travis Kelce?

  E I E I. E I O.

• 39:19Speaker 01

  Oh, yes.

• 39:19Speaker 04

  E I.

• 39:21Speaker 01

  E I E, E I O.

• 39:23Speaker 04

  So it was D E I O N. I got it from Old McDonnell.

• 39:31Travis Kelce?

  Is it still that?

• 39:32Speaker 04

  That's the way I spell it. Oh, my first specific is D I O N, but I've always spelled it D E I O N.

• 39:39Travis Kelce?

  There you go.

• 39:40Speaker 01

  You know how bad you gotta be to just change your name and people just go along with it? Right here, Mr. Sanders.

• 39:47Travis Kelce?

  That's so good. We had, we had our guy, Judge Jake, who worked with you at NFL Network a little bit. He was the one that gave us the intel on that one.

• 39:55Speaker 04

  Oh, no, that's a good one. That's, that's real.

• 39:58Travis Kelce?

  Oh, he was nicknamed Turtle. You might know him as Turtle.

• 40:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, Turtle. Turtle was awesome, man.

• 40:05Speaker 04

  Turtle?

• 40:07Travis Kelce?

  We got, we got Turtle on the squad.

• 40:09Speaker 04

  Oh, man, you guys are big time guys, man. Turtle was awesome, man. Turtle, we got some good memories, don't we, Turtle?

• 40:14Speaker 01

  Oh, here we go. Turtle's popping in.

• 40:16Speaker 09

  Hey, Prime.

• 40:17Speaker 04

  Oh, my.

• 40:17Speaker 09

  Hey. I just wanted.

• 40:19Speaker 04

  Turtle.

• 40:24Speaker 09

  Prime, good to see you.

• 40:25Speaker 04

  You know what I'm talking about. Mrs. Turtle, Mama Turtle.

• 40:28Speaker 09

  We got some good memories. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.

• 40:32Speaker 04

  We got some good memories. I didn't forget.

• 40:34Speaker 09

  Oh, I didn't forget either, Prime. I, I, I gave you a lot of love when we were talking in our production meeting, so I appreciate the shout out.

• 40:40Speaker 04

  Turtle, you've been a good man for a long time, man. I'm glad you see these champs, man. These guys are awesome, man.

• 40:46Speaker 09

  You, three of my favorite people on one call right here. It's the best. I'm honored. I'm honored. Thanks, Prime. I appreciate it.

• 40:53Speaker 04

  That's amazing.

• 40:53Travis Kelce?

  Coach, whose idea was it for the bandana on the Hall of Fame bus?

• 40:58Speaker 04

  Mine.

• 41:00Travis Kelce?

  That was iconic.

• 41:01Speaker 04

  This is how the bandana started. Of course, it was a wristband. I had a curl when I played Florida State. And it activated, used to drip down to get in your eyes. So I put a headband on my head. But when I put my helmet on, the headband slipped down and that's when I started rocking the thing around the neck. That was by mistake. That wasn't.

• 41:22Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh.

• 41:23Travis Kelce?

  Everyone rocks that look. Everybody rocks that look.

• 41:28Speaker 04

  It was by mistake. Then I started putting a headband around it because so it'll hold up. But that was by mistake. The headband around the neck, that was for the curl and it just slid down.

• 41:38Travis Kelce?

  All by mistake. Swagger just happens by mistake. You can't, the guy can't make any mistakes.

• 41:43Speaker 04

  It just happens.

• 41:46Speaker 01

  You hold the NFL record for career return touchdowns with 19, nine interceptions, six punt, three kickoff and a fumble. Which one is your favorite?

• 41:55Travis Kelce?

  Ooh.

• 41:57Speaker 01

  Do you have?

• 41:57Travis Kelce?

  You got, you got a favorite return for touchdown?

• 42:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. House called in Atlanta.

• 42:02Speaker 01

  There we go.

• 42:03Speaker 04

  House called in Atlanta because we was on the plane and I studied so darn much and I got this big, that's back when we had to carry this big VCH, VCH thing, you know, because you didn't have a little, you had to, you had to have a big.

• 42:17Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh.

• 42:19Speaker 04

  You watched me on the plane and I said, I can know these guys like a book. I know these guys like a book. And, you know, I was setting them up. I backed off. I said, they should throw a little five yard hitch. They threw a hitch. I went and bumped and said, they should throw a fade, try to a fade. I said, okay, I got them. I got them. We got back down to the 10 yard line. They ran a flood route offside. They lined up, ran it again, offside defense that time. So they went back to the same spot. I cannot believe they ran it. They got in the same formation trips.

• 42:46Speaker 01

  Again.

• 42:47Speaker 04

  Trips to field. I put my back to the sideline, which I never do, and I squatted down real low and they ran that flood and I jumped it. But on the plane, I had told Carmen Policy and the late Dwight Clark, I said, I'm gonna pick one off and I'm a high stepping and I'm gonna look at they bench and I'm gonna.

• 43:08Speaker 01

  Oh my God.

• 43:09Travis Kelce?

  He did exactly that.

• 43:12Speaker 04

  I'm not lying. I'm like, God, thank you. It took me the same way I said it would happen. I said, I'm gonna look at they bench and high step them because it was a, you know, it was a lot of animosity. I was going back to the play. My former teammates was hating on me a little bit.

• 43:26Speaker 01

  Okay, okay. Well.

• 43:27Travis Kelce?

  That's too funny, man.

• 43:28Speaker 01

  I can't believe it was all so pre-planned and meticulous like that. That's crazy.

• 43:32Speaker 04

  Man, you know that study, that study, that study. Yeah, it's preparation. That's all it is.

• 43:36Travis Kelce?

  We know about all the success and all the unbelievable plays like the one you just mentioned right there. For the last question we got for you, Prime, what was your welcome to the NFL moment?

• 43:48Speaker 04

  God, what was the welcome to the NFL moment?

• 43:52Speaker 04

  You mean something negative?

• 43:54Speaker 01

  Honestly, it doesn't have to be.

• 43:55Travis Kelce?

  It doesn't have to be, yeah.

• 43:57Speaker 04

  Like, I didn't have negative moments like welcome to the NFL. My welcome to the NFL moment was housing that thing on the first game I played in against the Rams.

• 44:05Speaker 01

  That's a hell of a welcome. That's a good one.

• 44:09Speaker 04

  And you dropped, I dropped it, picked it up and housed it. And I remember going to downtown to the mall back then, we used to go to mall. And I bought, I bought 11 Gucci watches.

• 44:25Speaker 04

  I bought 11 Gucci watches for the whole punt return team.

• 44:29Travis Kelce?

  Special teams? Oh, man, this is electric.

• 44:33Speaker 04

  Including the coach, including the special teams coach. And I wrote on the card, every fourth down, I just wanted y'all to know what time it was.

• 44:44Travis Kelce?

  That is so good.

• 44:47Speaker 04

  I gave it to him the next day. I want you to know what time it was.

• 44:50Speaker 01

  Hey, you might be the only person that there, it doesn't sound like there was an NFL welcome moment for Neon Dion. It was a welcome to Neon Dion for the NFL after that.

• 45:01Travis Kelce?

  Welcome to prime, baby.

• 45:02Speaker 04

  I had just got there a few days before because I was swinging the hat. I had just got there. Because I was with the Yankees. I had just got there three days before.

• 45:11Travis Kelce?

  Man, that's electric, man.

• 45:13Speaker 01

  So good, so good.

• 45:14Travis Kelce?

  I love you, big guy. Thank you for being you.

• 45:16Speaker 04

  I love you.

• 45:18Travis Kelce?

  Just instilling so much confidence and, and, and so much of your hard work and how you do things, your walk, your talk, how you, how you played the game, man. I can't thank you enough from a kid in the nineties, from the swag to the glasses to everything, man. Keep doing you, always watching you on Saturdays now, just like, like I was on Sundays, man. And good luck this week. Who you got? You guys got Wyoming coming up, right?

• 45:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, I appreciate y'all, man, for keeping it a buck.

• 45:44Travis Kelce?

  Go ahead and get after it, baby.

• 45:45Speaker 04

  Taking this thing to another level, what y'all have done and just putting alignment on the map, putting a tight end on the map. Tight end and just being the family, man, and keeping that family, man. I love it. I love it. And you guys have been good to me. You've been good to my kids. You stood up for them and gave them love when, because you know what time it is. But I appreciate y'all, man, and I love you for it. You know that.

• 46:07Travis Kelce?

  You're the best. You're the best, coach. Good luck the rest of the season.

• 46:10Speaker 04

  Take care.

• 46:10Travis Kelce?

  You're doing it, baby. You already know.

• 46:13Speaker 01

  All right, and that wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you so much to our guests, Coach Prime Deion Sanders. My God, man, that was a good one. Make sure you subscribe to the New Heights channel on YouTube and follow New Heights in the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes of New Heights early and ad free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.

• 46:37Travis Kelce?

  Very nicely said, Jason. Once again, New Heights a Wondery show brought to you by Reese's Oreo cups. Just, just go down to the corner store, to the gas station, wherever you get your candy and get you some of these, man. The peanut butter cups and the Oreo. God damn it. This shit's amazing. Follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one S. Thanks to the New Heights production team for always making this look a whole lot better. Big shout out to Turtle and thank you again to the 92%ers and Prime Time himself, man. Me and you both, baby. Let's get back on the win train right now. Let's go, let's go.

• 47:18Speaker 01

  Come on now.

• 47:23Speaker 01

  Oh shit.

• 47:25Travis Kelce?

  Hello? It's sweetie, let me call you back. Money's on the, money's on the line.

• 47:30Travis Kelce?

  We got money on the line right now and I can't tell you what it is quite.

• 47:39Speaker 01

  Let's go. Prime, Coach Prime.

• 47:42Speaker 04

  I'm with the Kelsey brothers, man. I'm, I'm, I made it. I made it. Call my mama till I made it.

• 47:48Travis Kelce?

  I've been trying to get on your level since the 90s, baby.

• 47:51Speaker 04

  Hell, yeah. Oh, this is amazing.