KHC 180 - Valentina Gomez

Valentina Gomez - Colombian-born American political candidate and far-right conservative activist known for her controversial online presence and provocative campaign tactics. She immigrated to the United States from Medellín, Colombia with her family in 2009 and later earned two degrees - a bachelor’s and an MBA from U. S. universities. Join us for a conversation about politics, government lies, and the fight for a better America. Follow Valentina: https://www.instagram.com/valentinagomezus/ Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Timestamps: 00:00:00 – From Swimming to Politics 00:08:26 – Running for Congress, Power in Politics, Pedophiles & Talk is Cheap 00:14:39 – Muslims, Christianity, and the American Way of Life 00:28:12 – Trump, Thoughts on the Epstein Files, & Propaganda 00:32:57 – A Product of Struggle and Hard Work 00:36:21 – Foreign Influences 00:38:10 – Valentina’s Childhood and Success in Swimming 00:43:36 – War is a Failure in Diplomacy 00:47:56 – Valentina’s Goals with Congress 00:52:52 – Catching Pedophiles 00:57:40 – Money Sent to Refugees 01:05:01 – Justice in the World: Wrestling with Rules of Christianity 01:09:43 – Having America’s Best Interests in Mind 01:11:43 – Abortion and Feminism 01:15:51 – Gaining Citizenship the Right Way 01:20:56 – Thoughts on ICE & Illegal Immigrants 01:26:50 – The Trans Community & Reparations 01:32:54 – Learning How to Shoot a Bow, Criticism for Talking to a Drag Queen, & Final Thoughts Thank you to our sponsors: Black Rifle Coffee: https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 10% your order Grizzly Coolers: https://www.grizzlycoolers.com/ use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off Ketone IQ: https://www.ketone.com/Cam use code CAM for 30% off your first subscription MTN OPS Supplements: https://mtnops.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off Montana Knife Company: https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ Use code CAM for 10% off Hoyt: http://bit.ly/3Zdamyv use code CAM for 10% off

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• 0:00Cameron Hanes?

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• 0:42Cameron Hanes?

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• 1:27Cameron Hanes?

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• 2:12Cameron Hanes?

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• 2:47Cameron Hanes?

  We are here on the Keep Hammering Collective with Valentina Gomez. How are you?

• 2:52Speaker 01

  Yes, sir. Thank you, Cameron, for having me. Amazing. It is great to be in Oregon. First time ever being here in the state of Oregon. Yes, I've seen so many liberals. Like, I want to go back to Texas.

• 3:05Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, this, uh, this is a college town here. So we got the U of O. You know how that goes.

• 3:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:10Cameron Hanes?

  College town's a little more liberal. But I live in, so Springfield is where we are now. Eugene, we've always said Eugene is like the more liberal. Springfield is a conservative, hardworking, middle-class type. So that's where we are now. It's, it's a little bit, you know, it's close because, because they neighbor, but yeah.

• 3:28Speaker 01

  See, I like it. It's cold, but it's nice.

• 3:30Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 3:31Speaker 01

  But honestly, the air here is amazing.

• 3:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it is.

• 3:35Speaker 01

  The nature, you feel, you feel the freshness.

• 3:38Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's beautiful. Born and raised here. It's, I love it. I mean, anytime you get rain, you know, it feels like it's a, it kind of cleans everything. As you said, it's a, yeah, just a, it's just clean, fresh air. I like the green. Yeah, a little bit different than Texas.

• 3:55Speaker 01

  The elk too.

• 3:56Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, definitely elk. I love Texas though. I do go down there and hunt every year. Have you hunted before?

• 4:01Speaker 01

  No, never hunted in my life. I usually just hunt, uh, some pedophiles, corrupt politicians.

• 4:06Cameron Hanes?

  I love that.

• 4:07Speaker 01

  Now I'm going for alligators. So yeah, I need to step up my game with, with the elk.

• 4:11Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, definitely. Well, I'm just like, I mean, you know how to make an impact. So you uh, you stir stuff up, you got some hot takes. So that's, I mean, that's what caught my attention. Well, first, you know, you had the bow and you said, hey, let's lift, run, shoot. And I'm like, that's my game right there. That's that. So that got my attention. Then I went to your page because I hadn't been following you. And I'm like, wow, she's uh, got some strong opinions.

• 4:35Speaker 01

  I don't hold back.

• 4:36Cameron Hanes?

  No, you don't.

• 4:37Speaker 01

  The truth and Cameron, in a world full of lies, speaking the truth is controversial.

• 4:41Cameron Hanes?

  That's right.

• 4:41Speaker 01

  With all of these weak people that are in power and all of the lies that surround us.

• 4:46Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, well, I, yeah, I want to talk about that. I mean, what, how did you find yourself in this position, running for Congress in Texas at twenty-six years old?

• 4:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, but before I start, I want to give you something.

• 4:56Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, okay.

• 4:58Speaker 01

  Let me give you something.

• 5:01Speaker 01

  I brought this for you.

• 5:02Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, nice. Thank you. Can I open it?

• 5:05Speaker 01

  Of course, please do.

• 5:06Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, we got here. Oh, nice. Okay. Oh, give me your Bible.

• 5:12Speaker 01

  I got you a Bible. Yes, sir.

• 5:13Cameron Hanes?

  Thank you.

• 5:14Speaker 01

  That is the best, that is the best thing that I can give anybody.

• 5:16Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, that's great.

• 5:17Speaker 01

  Other than the, my sunglasses.

• 5:20Cameron Hanes?

  I love it. I love it. So these are yours, huh?

• 5:23Speaker 01

  Yep. And I'll tell you, I'll tell you the story about how, behind those sunglasses.

• 5:29Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 5:29Speaker 01

  So Pit Viper came out against me. They denounced me and everything because I did a video with their sunglasses. And I said, all right, you know what? I'm going to come out with my very own sunglasses. You can see on the side, it says, America first, on the right side and on the left side. And right up front, it says, don't be weak and gay.

• 5:48Cameron Hanes?

  Is that from those guys?

• 5:49Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 5:50Cameron Hanes?

  Inspired by Pit Viper?

• 5:52Speaker 01

  And I wear those everywhere I go, whenever I work out, whenever I go anywhere. So they're light, they're.

• 5:58Cameron Hanes?

  This is, yeah, this is amazing, this gift. Thank you.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  The Bible. Um, if I, I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Jesus Christ, Cameron.

• 6:06Cameron Hanes?

  Tell, why, why is that? Tell me that.

• 6:09Speaker 01

  My life is a testimony of Jesus Christ. And you asked me why I'm doing all of this.

• 6:15Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 6:16Speaker 01

  It's because I care. I care for the people of Texas. I, I started at the, at very bottom, actually. Um, my life has been about fighting, with a little bit of swimming in it.

• 6:25Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 6:26Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 6:26Cameron Hanes?

  Swimming, yeah.

• 6:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, while kids were getting dropped off in Porsches, my mom was dropping us off in her crutches because my dad was working at the factory. We come from nothing. We didn't even speak English when we got here.

• 6:38Cameron Hanes?

  And that was two thousand nine?

• 6:40Speaker 01

  Two thousand nine. I was ten years old. And my parents went all in on us because they couldn't afford to pay for college. Three of us made it to swim to Division One. One of us made it to the Olympics. Two and a half of us got a masters because he's dropping out of Columbia University.

• 6:58Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, no.

• 6:58Speaker 01

  Yes, and my name is forever gonna be in the history books of American politics. And I'll tell you how much God's plan is better than mine. A few weeks ago, I was grappling with Gordon Ryan. Then I did a face off with John Jones at Dirty Boxing and I drank one of these too.

• 7:13Cameron Hanes?

  Nice, nice.

• 7:14Speaker 01

  And last week, I was wrestling with Gordon Ryan. And today, I'm with you, Cameron.

• 7:19Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 7:19Speaker 01

  In Eugene, Oregon, doing a lift, run and shoot. So I have no idea what next week is gonna bring, but I trust his plan. And if it's his plan for me to go to Congress, for me to be in Washington DC. Then pack your bags, Cameron Hanes, because we're not hunting elk.

• 7:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 7:35Speaker 01

  We're hunting pedophiles.

• 7:36Cameron Hanes?

  I got you. I mean, that's, I mean, I love your story. It's, uh, it's amazing, that journey. And then you're just so focused, so energetic. I mean, I think we mentioned, or you tagged me in a lift, run, shoot thing like a few days ago, and here you are. You know, I mean, you're a hustler. You're like, you make shit happen.

• 7:54Speaker 01

  I always shoot my shot.

• 7:55Cameron Hanes?

  You do.

• 7:55Speaker 01

  That's exactly how this podcast happened.

• 7:57Cameron Hanes?

  But you're here, yes. I know. I mean, you wouldn't basically take no for an answer. I had, you know, I had stuff I had to do last night. I got a guest tomorrow. And I'm like, well, I got Thursday, and here you are.

• 8:06Speaker 01

  Yes, and we made it work. Timing is never gonna be perfect, Cameron. You either do it because these type of opportunities never come twice.

• 8:13Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 8:13Speaker 01

  I don't think, oh, let me just do it two weeks from now. No, let's do it now.

• 8:17Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I love that.

• 8:18Speaker 01

  And I'll pull up. That's what I do with everything and everybody. That's how I run my life. That's why I've, that's how I've gotten to where I am today.

• 8:24Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, well, I mean, it's incredible. So why, why running for Congress? Tell me how that. Where did you get inspired to do that? Or why do you feel the need to do that? And tell me, what, what region? Where, where do you live? What, what's going on right here?

• 8:39Speaker 01

  Because I care, Cameron. I care for the future of Texas. And look what these politicians have done to us. Look at the Epstein files. We see girls being trafficked, girls being raped out of their, out of their innocence, babies being tortured and killed, yet nobody has gone to prison. Fauci, millions of people were forced to inject poison into their bodies, yet absolutely nobody has gone to jail for it. The Abigat 13, with the withdrawal of Afghanistan, 13 service members were killed. And I personally know those 13 families, yet nobody has gone to prison. So sadly, it's because there's no actual leadership that I can look up right now. That's the reason I'm running. And also, there's this concept called FAFO.

• 9:24Speaker 01

  The more you [bleep] around, the more you're gonna find out. And I've been messing around and I have found out that they don't like people that speak the truth. They don't like people that catch pedophiles and they don't like Christians.

• 9:35Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I, I, I mean, it's hard to disagree with any of that because that's what I see too. What do you think is going on with Epstein files? And it's like, here's my frustration. I voted for Trump three times, okay? I like, I, I liked what he said, drain the swamp, no senseless wars. We don't need, you know, our men getting killed for other countries. The Epstein files, the justice for the victims, the holding people accountable for the crimes they did. So what, why, when I voted for Trump and he said that was gonna happen, why is it not happening?

• 10:06Speaker 01

  Because the truth is, all of these pedophiles are at the top of the corporations. If they get arrested, the economy will probably crumble. And I'll tell you the crazy thing, I've been closer to going to jail than everybody on the Epstein files combined. That's the craziest part.

• 10:22Cameron Hanes?

  And I, I've even seen the Republicans have not denounced you in some ways, but like, not, you know, wanted to separate themselves. So, and that you're a Republican.

• 10:31Speaker 01

  Yes, actually, because I'm not part of the establishment.

• 10:34Cameron Hanes?

  I see.

• 10:34Speaker 01

  Because everything, I'll tell you how politics is, Cameron. Everything in politics is pay to play. If you're not blessed by the group, if you're not blessed by certain people, if you don't ask permission from certain folks, then they're gonna try to destroy you. They're gonna take you out. And this was a conversation that I had about two and a half years ago, uh, two and a half years ago, with somebody very powerful. And I basically told them, I'm doing it my way. I'm not gonna go with your way. You can [bleep]. And ever since then, it's been a roller coaster of speaking the truth and putting the word of God first. But Cameron, I'll tell you, I'll tell you this, the Republican Party in Texas has banned me from all of the Republican events, just because I asked my opponent,

• 11:15Speaker 01

  eighty-four-year-old Congressman John Carter, two questions. And I showed the world that he's in worse terrible condition than Joe Biden. That's the reason they banned me. And that's the reason they're coming out with full force. Today Ted Cruz endorsed eighty-four-year-old John Carter, who has been in politics for almost fifty years.

• 11:32Cameron Hanes?

  So they can just control him, probably, right? He does exactly what they say.

• 11:35Speaker 01

  Oh, he does. He absolutely does. It's the swamp protecting their own. Just because there's an R right next to your name, doesn't mean that you're one of the good ones.

• 11:46Cameron Hanes?

  Right, I understand. And so, what do you see in that district that he's, is he not doing anything? Or like, what's the change you can offer?

• 11:55Speaker 01

  Well, I'll tell you this, John Carter doesn't show up. I asked for debates multiple times. I even offered to pay the GOP ten thousand dollars. I offered a newspaper to hold a debate between him and I, paying twenty-five thousand dollars, and they refused to do that. This district is one of the most conservative districts in the state. We have the military, we have four hood within this district, we have veterans, hard-working families. And right now, Texas is getting flooded with Muslims. Over two hundred mosques have been built in Texas just in the past two years with our very own taxpayer money. And John Carter has been part of that. Greg Abbott has been part of that, and even Ted Cruz as well.

• 12:35Cameron Hanes?

  And what, so, what's your problem with that? I mean, what, is it because they're not Christians? Or what do you think it does to the community?

• 12:46Speaker 01

  I'll tell you this, little girls all across Europe are being raped. Christians in Nigeria are being killed. White Christians in South Africa are being murdered and their land is being taken away. And the common denominator across all of these issues are the Muslims. They're not here to assimilate to the American way of life. They're here to rape us into submission. Look at England. They opened the door to the Muhammad's. Now they lead the world in the number of rapes. And that's exactly what's coming to Texas. We already lost Michigan, Minnesota, and New York City. I don't want to lose the most conservative state in the union. And they're all coming here. They're all coming to Texas. They want to make Texas the mecca of the West. And I'm doing everything I can to stop that.

• 13:30Cameron Hanes?

  Why do you think Texas is their target?

• 13:33Speaker 01

  Because if Texas falls, America falls. That's sending a message to the rest of the world. I gave Texas the first ever year to Christian Capitol Day in history, in the history of Texas. And if it's God's plan for me to become a Congresswoman, Cameron, it's gonna happen. Because nobody can stop what God has already started.

• 13:50Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I mean, you're, I wouldn't, I would not want to debate you. I can see why, what's his name, John, what's his?

• 13:58Speaker 01

  John Carter.

• 13:58Cameron Hanes?

  John Carter is trying to avoid you.

• 14:01Speaker 01

  I even, I even proposed, we can have a debate. He can have the questions beforehand. And we can just talk in front of the people and let the people decide. And they're gonna be able to see who's real and who isn't.

• 14:12Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, they, they would hate that. I mean, and that's what, that's the crazy thing. Because I was just watching some old debates from when Trump, I think, the first time in 2016. And he was saying all the right things. He was talking about that there was no weapons of mass destruction. And like calling out the BS wars that we've been in. And now he's different. And what I put up, I said, he's changed, we haven't. Because it's like what he was saying, what he was doing, sounded like, I like when people, when it makes sense, you're like, okay. Because sometimes politicians talk and you're like. What, what?

• 14:48Speaker 01

  They're full of garbage.

• 14:49Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, they're full of shit. And it's just like, um, so yeah, I mean, I get that. What people obviously push back on you on is, um, when you say, you know, you go pretty hard on Muslims and they say, and what I would, what I would question is, you know, the First Amendment does protect freedom of speech, obviously, and religion. So how can we say all Muslims and group them in one lump sum and say, you know, make blanket statements? That, to me, that, I don't know about that.

• 15:20Speaker 01

  I don't see the peaceful Muslims actually going against the people that are trying to take over America and are trying to instill Sharia law, Cameron. Because if you look at, at the Quran, go to Zora 5, Zora 8, Zora 12, "I will instill, I will instill terror into the hearts of the disbelievers." That's exactly what the Quran says. With Christianity, I don't care if you want to worship a cow. It gives you the free will to worship anything. We don't want to kill anybody. We just want to live in peace. We want to give thanks to our Lord Jesus Christ, but also respect the Constitution, respect the American way of life, respect the fact that this nation is a Christian nation. There's 57 Muslim nations. Imagine, imagine a Christian leading a Muslim nation. That would never happen.

• 16:04Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 16:05Speaker 01

  And now in the UK, the UK is being led, now is about to be led by a Muslim. And that's because they ignore the 1%. They ignore the 1% and now they've been raped into submission.

• 16:14Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm. Yeah, I mean, it's a, so, okay, if we talk about then the Christian values, we're a Christian nation, as you said, and, you know, I agree, that's how, that's how we were founded. What do you think, how would Jesus himself deal with Muslims?

• 16:31Speaker 01

  I cannot speak for Jesus, Cameron. I can only speak for me.

• 16:38Cameron Hanes?

  But on his teachings.

• 16:41Speaker 01

  If you're not killing or raping, then, you know, we can, we can only evangelize. You know, we're not here to make people convert out of force, just like they do. You know, look at what happened in Iran. They, they allowed the Islamic takeover of Iran, and now thousands of people are dying. And now they want us to get involved in their war. They want us to sacrifice our own men and women that are thousands of miles away. I don't agree with that.

• 17:10Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 17:10Speaker 01

  They voted for that, they elected that, now they're suffering.

• 17:14Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's a, it's definitely a mess.

• 17:19Speaker 01

  No nation, in my opinion, no nation has ever gotten better from bringing Muslims in.

• 17:25Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I don't, I don't know. That's, that's not my area of expertise. But I just wanna, I know people, they'll criticize you for certain things. So I wanna, I just wanna make sure we talk about it and make sure we peel back the onion. People understand where you're coming from.

• 17:40Speaker 01

  People talk bad about Jesus. Of course they're gonna talk shit about me. Of course.

• 17:45Cameron Hanes?

  I agree.

• 17:46Speaker 01

  You can't satisfy a world that crucified the perfect man.

• 17:48Cameron Hanes?

  No, that's, that's a fact.

• 17:52Cameron Hanes?

  So with regard, I mean, what's your odds of winning this seat in Congress? And if you don't win, would that be a failure? Or would it be, you, you know, you gave your best, you were honest in, in your, in this run for Congress? And it's like, what if it, what if it doesn't work? What does that say if it doesn't work? Or what does it say if you are successful?

• 18:16Speaker 01

  Regardless of what the election says, my life is not gonna, it's not gonna change. I will still get down on my knees and thank God for the life He has given me. Because if you would have told me five years ago that I was gonna be in Eugene, Oregon, with Cameron Hanes, I wouldn't have believed you.

• 18:33Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 18:33Speaker 01

  I live a good life, Cameron. I'm doing this because I care for the people of Texas, because I care for their, for their future. I already have the houses, the cars, and the money. So if it's God's plan for me to become a Congresswoman, so be it. Because no matter what your political stance is. Your life is affected by politics, whether you want to accept it or not.

• 18:54Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that's true. Um, what do you think your chances are of winning?

• 18:58Speaker 01

  Well, right now, they're stealing, they're currently stealing my election. Because in multiple counties, people are telling me that they're not, I'm not showing up on their ballots. Everybody else's name is showing up except mine.

• 19:10Cameron Hanes?

  How is that right or legal?

• 19:12Speaker 01

  It's corruption. It's not illegal at all. They're, like I said, they're literally stealing my election. I went to the elections office. They're telling me that everything is fine. Spoke with election judges. It's fine.

• 19:23Cameron Hanes?

  Well, where's your name then?

• 19:24Speaker 01

  Exactly. Exactly. People have filed affidavits. People have, have actually spoken with the election judges, but it's after the fact. It's after they vote. You know, so it's already too late.

• 19:33Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 19:34Speaker 01

  So they're stealing it little by little. And I'll tell you this, they got President Trump to endorse Congressman, eighty-four-year-old Congressman John Carter. And Cameron, endorsements, I can tell you this, endorsements are not free. Somebody's getting paid.

• 19:48Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  Some, because in politics, that's how it works. Today Ted Cruz, five days before the election, he got endorsed by, by him. And it's the swamp, like I said before, it's the swamp endorsing the swamp.

• 20:00Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I know.

• 20:01Speaker 01

  They would never want, you think Washington DC wants to have me? Absolutely not.

• 20:06Cameron Hanes?

  No, you stir stuff up.

• 20:07Speaker 01

  I am the, I am the least person they want to have.

• 20:10Cameron Hanes?

  And that, but that's what, why, that's why they didn't want Trump either.

• 20:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:13Cameron Hanes?

  And that's, that's what's so frustrating is how he's changed because, but I would love for somebody, a disruptor like you, to get the opportunity, because I don't know what else it's gonna take. I'm watching the political landscape now and it's just, I've never been more frustrated.

• 20:28Speaker 01

  It's theater, Cameron. Everything you see. And I love President Trump. I support him. I voted for him. And he's the only person that I actually, I actually like in politics. And I know, actually, I'll tell you this, there's, I know there's a lot of people that surround, a lot of bad people that are around them, that have different interests.

• 20:45Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 20:45Speaker 01

  You know, because he's a billionaire. He didn't have to do any of this.

• 20:48Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 20:48Speaker 01

  Just like me, I'm twenty-six years old. I'm literally giving my youth to this country. I'm literally, I literally put my entire net worth on the line for this. And trust me, it has gone down ever since I started this. It has not gone up. And it's, it's just corruption.

• 21:05Cameron Hanes?

  Well, and that's what's frustrating because it's like a money game to even run. Because I know I mentioned this, I had the candidate for Oregon governor on here. I was talking to him, I think, about fundraising and about money and about what it takes. And I talked to another woman who was running last year and she said, just roughly, like, to run for president, you need 500 million, to run for governor, you need 50 million. I don't know what it takes to run for Congress, but a lot of money. So that, if you don't have the money, if you're not playing the political game, if you're not, you know, toeing the line like you're supposed to, you're not getting any money. So where, how are you gonna have this campaign? Is it mostly grassroots, you hustling, doing stuff like this, getting your voice out there? And just being heard?

• 21:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's straight up hustling, Cameron. It's, I'm hammering every single day. I've been hammering for years now.

• 21:57Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 21:57Speaker 01

  Doing this. And that's what they're so afraid of me because they cannot control me. They have nothing on me. I didn't accept their money. 3 million dollars was offered. I said-

• 22:07Cameron Hanes?

  From who?

• 22:08Speaker 01

  So from, there's somebody in the energy business that told me, "Valentina, if you stop talking about Muslims, we can fund your entire campaign for 3 million dollars and you can have it on the next day." I said, "Thank you for the offer, but you can shove it up your ass." I'm not accepting any of that.

• 22:23Cameron Hanes?

  So that's how they, normally when people take money, there's always, there's rules.

• 22:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course, you're gonna get purchased, of course. Look at Greg Abbott. Greg Abbott fundraised about 100 million dollars for his reelection campaign. 100 million dollars comes with a lot of strings attached. That comes with you selling the entire state out, whether you like it or not.

• 22:45Cameron Hanes?

  And just think about it, like, if you were gonna get 3 million for saying, talking about Muslims, how many more rules are with 100 million? So it's like, we need you to do this, this, you know-

• 22:55Speaker 01

  And this is just me talking.

• 22:57Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 22:57Speaker 01

  And I'm not even in office, Cameron. I'm just doing little tic tacs on my phone.

• 23:02Cameron Hanes?

  Right, yeah. It's a-

• 23:04Speaker 01

  And speaking to the people, going door to door, doing mailers, I mean- Doing everything I can within my power because at the end of the day, whatever happens next week, I'm at peace.

• 23:15Cameron Hanes?

  Mm hmm. Yeah, it's a

• 23:17Speaker 01

  I know I didn't sell out. I know I didn't accept any money because everything is is public.

• 23:21Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 23:22Speaker 01

  All of my donations are public. It comes from hardworking Americans from all over the nation.

• 23:26Cameron Hanes?

  Right. Who believe in you?

• 23:28Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 23:28Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. And I think people get so fixated on your one approach to the one topic and then miss everything else that you you stand for, which that's the name of the game. I mean, you also know that by saying, saying what you say, how you say it, you are eliciting a response.

• 23:46Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 23:46Cameron Hanes?

  Right. And that's, that's where we want, we want to be, we want to be in the middle. In the middle, nothing changes. So either you're over here or over here.

• 23:53Speaker 01

  I don't want to communicate like everybody else. That's boring.

• 23:56Cameron Hanes?

  Make people feel and you make, you make people feel, but the, some critics might say, well, you, you'd be more successful if you just tone that down.

• 24:03Speaker 01

  Critics?

• 24:04Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 24:04Speaker 01

  What critics, Cameron? I don't have any critics.

• 24:07Cameron Hanes?

  No, if you, if you did have a critic, I'm not saying you do.

• 24:10Speaker 01

  What are you talking about?

• 24:11Cameron Hanes?

  Piers Morgan.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, Piers Morgan. He, he loves me.

• 24:17Cameron Hanes?

  Well, he, you know, those shows, they should love you because

• 24:23Cameron Hanes?

  you cause people to watch. You know what I mean? It's like

• 24:27Speaker 01

  And I like debating. I like going back and forth. They get to question me, I get to question them back.

• 24:32Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that's, that's

• 24:33Speaker 01

  And he doesn't like it. He doesn't like it when I question him about the COVID vaccine. I made him apologize in national TV for telling people to inject poison into their bodies, calling them, you're a terrible human being, trying to destroy their lives when people are now dropping dead.

• 24:47Cameron Hanes?

  It's crazy.

• 24:48Speaker 01

  Just from a COVID vaccine. Twenty five year olds, thirty year olds, fifty year olds.

• 24:51Cameron Hanes?

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• 25:33Cameron Hanes?

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• 26:13Cameron Hanes?

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• 26:57Speaker 01

  Did you take it, Cameron?

• 26:59Cameron Hanes?

  I did not take it. Hell, no. And I almost, I got in a lot of trouble at work all the time. And I'm just like, because that was when I had a job. I was, you know, superintendent over at the water and power company over here. And, you know, we were getting pressured just like everybody else. And I'm like, I don't even take the flu vaccine. Why would I take this? I'm, I'm good. And

• 27:20Speaker 01

  The flu vaccine is so gay. If you, if you get the flu vaccine every year, you know, I'm just gonna cough on you.

• 27:25Cameron Hanes?

  I've never had it. Never had it in my life. So, I mean, if you're health, like, my whole thing was, I'm healthy. I don't, I'm not worried about a virus or a germ.

• 27:34Speaker 01

  You're super healthy. You go to Orange Theory.

• 27:36Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Pilates. We were joking about that the other day. Yeah. So it's like, but yeah, nobody's held accountable for that. For, what about all those deaths? You know, I mean, Fauci, who knows what he's doing?

• 27:51Speaker 01

  And we have the, the super majority in the House.

• 27:53Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 27:53Speaker 01

  In the Senate, and we have the White House. Yet, nobody has gone to prison.

• 27:58Speaker 01

  That is the saddest part.

• 27:59Cameron Hanes?

  That drives me insane.

• 28:00Speaker 01

  Because if we don't actually do it now, nothing is gonna change. Nothing is gonna happen.

• 28:03Cameron Hanes?

  No.

• 28:03Speaker 01

  If you let these people go, that sends a message to the world that you can kill, you can rape, and you can torture.

• 28:09Cameron Hanes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 28:09Speaker 01

  And nothing is gonna happen.

• 28:11Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Why do you think that, why is Trump, if he's exonerated like he says, and we're talking about Epstein files now, but if he's exonerated like he said, which, I don't know, I think the government was shut down for forty days so they could get those files. But, whatever. I don't know anything. Um, why would he, why would he protect these people?

• 28:33Cameron Hanes?

  Are you saying because the whole system relies on him? Because I don't, I didn't, you know, Pam Bondi said that the other day, that the system would collapse, and most people would be like, "Let it collapse." But I just don't get that part.

• 28:44Speaker 01

  The DOJ can start prosecuting people if President Trump says, "Go prosecute these people."

• 28:50Cameron Hanes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 28:51Speaker 01

  And I haven't heard a single thing from President Trump or from his administration in regards to that. I, I saw the State of the Union. I saw everything that was going on. I see Congress holding investigations, holding hearings.

• 29:04Cameron Hanes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 29:04Speaker 01

  But nobody goes to jail.

• 29:06Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 29:06Speaker 01

  Nobody actually gets perp walked.

• 29:08Cameron Hanes?

  Mm-hmm. Why?

• 29:09Speaker 01

  Not a single pedophile.

• 29:10Cameron Hanes?

  Why? And it's like, other countries are, they're holding their people accountable who were mentioned in the Epstein files.

• 29:15Speaker 01

  I think they're just doing that to calm the people for a bit, and then they're just gonna let them go.

• 29:20Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that might be.

• 29:21Speaker 01

  But I hope people don't let go from this.

• 29:24Cameron Hanes?

  I know. I know. Because they want it, you know, Trump, he said it's boring. He said it's a democratic hoax. I read that stuff and see those pictures and videos. I'm like, I don't know what the hoax is, because this looks pretty disturbing.

• 29:37Speaker 01

  That's where I disagree with President Trump.

• 29:39Cameron Hanes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 29:39Speaker 01

  And I agree with him on a lot of things.

• 29:40Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 29:41Speaker 01

  And I still support him, but that's where I strongly, strongly disagree with him on that.

• 29:45Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I, I mean, I, I voted for him because I didn't like, I don't want kids mutilated. I didn't want the transgender stuff being pushed in the, you know, I didn't like the way it was going with the previous administration. It was just like, so, so wrong, so evil. And so I'm like, no, this has got to be better than that. Yeah, maybe it's not perfect, but it's gotta be better than that. And now I'm just like... What do we do now? Because if we can't hold people who abuse and murder and mutilate and rape and women and children, if we can't hold them accountable, what does that mean for our society?

• 30:21Speaker 01

  The way to have a country.

• 30:22Cameron Hanes?

  What does that mean? I mean, what was that saying? So, why would anybody trust anything that's going on when they allow that to happen? That's where I'm at now. It makes you question everything.

• 30:32Speaker 01

  It's all theater.

• 30:33Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 30:34Speaker 01

  Everything that we see in Congress, everything that we see on TV, it's just pure propaganda. And our politicians are in on it.

• 30:40Cameron Hanes?

  When did you realize this?

• 30:41Speaker 01

  When I started running for office.

• 30:44Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm, and is this the first time you've run?

• 30:47Speaker 01

  So, I ran for office in Missouri.

• 30:48Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 30:49Speaker 01

  When I was running for Secretary of State, because he was the only one I could actually run for.

• 30:53Cameron Hanes?

  And when was this?

• 30:54Speaker 01

  This was in 2024, 2024. I was 24 years old.

• 30:59Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 31:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, and the minimum age is 25.

• 31:03Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm, I see. And so...

• 31:06Speaker 01

  I wanted to get my foot in.

• 31:07Cameron Hanes?

  That's when you realized how dirty it was?

• 31:09Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 31:10Cameron Hanes?

  The business?

• 31:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, extremely dirty. But also, it is, politics is extremely dirty, but it is the only industry in the world where you can change the lives of people with one vote.

• 31:22Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm.

• 31:23Speaker 01

  The lives of millions of people.

• 31:24Cameron Hanes?

  Right, you can make an impact.

• 31:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:27Cameron Hanes?

  But we want that to be positive. That's what's so frustrating, because we see these people that have this power to make these changes, and then it hurts the American people. And, I mean, I want somebody who, you know, you hear what they say, and you're like, you want to believe what they say, but then it's all, like you said, theater. With you, I feel like this is real, you know? And it's like, I just want a real person. Yes, we can critique anybody, for sure.

• 31:56Speaker 01

  And that's the beauty of the First Amendment. You know, that's why my brother is also in the National Guard. He puts in the uniform, because even though I may not like what people can say about me, yes, I do have some critics, they have the right to criticize me.

• 32:10Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 32:11Speaker 01

  Because now I'm a public figure. I'm fair game for everybody.

• 32:13Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 32:14Speaker 01

  Just like I have the right to criticize our members of Congress, that I get to ask them questions, I get to criticize my own president, and that's the beauty of the First Amendment. If you do that in Iran, you'll get killed.

• 32:22Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 32:23Speaker 01

  If you do that in the UK, you'll go to prison.

• 32:25Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 32:26Speaker 01

  For saying that Muslims are raping little girls.

• 32:28Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm.

• 32:29Speaker 01

  And the government is covering it up.

• 32:30Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, protecting that. Yeah, and that's... I mean, I don't, I don't see anybody who could say that was, that's good or, or right in, in any way. But when they don't say anything about it or condemn it, that is giving, that's accepting it essentially. And so, yeah, somebody has to call out the wrong that's going on. So, I mean, I, I applaud that part. I applaud your, um, your bravery, you know, because these, your opinions, they do cause emotion and you have to live with that. You have to deal with that. People are gonna look at you and judge you for, forever because of that. And you're like, that's okay.

• 33:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's, I was built for this.

• 33:10Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 33:11Speaker 01

  I don't mind the criticism. I don't mind the fights, the wars. Um, Cameron, I'll tell you this. I'm the, I'm the product of struggle and hard work. If it wasn't because of Michael, I wouldn't have graduated college at 19 years old. And if it wasn't because of my older brother Jonathan, I wouldn't have gotten my MBA from Tulane University at 21 with full athletic scholarships. So it, it's, it all comes at full circle because I've actually worked for, actually worked for everything and everything that I am today.

• 33:40Cameron Hanes?

  Mm-hmm. It's, I mean, that's so impressive, all you've accomplished. And then coming as an immigrant from Colombia and coming to America, it is the American dream. You're living the American dream, right?

• 33:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, we came here legally. We filed our paperwork. We started at the very bottom. Uh, we didn't even speak English. I didn't even, at least Goggins, David Goggins, knew how to, knew how to speak English. I couldn't even say, they don't know me, son.

• 34:06Speaker 01

  Now, a bunch of Muslims wanna kill me because they know me, son. And, um, Cameron, I'm doing this because I love this country too much to let it go to waste.

• 34:15Cameron Hanes?

  Mm-hmm. I, I mean.

• 34:17Speaker 01

  And I had to become like your book, undeniable.

• 34:20Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 34:20Speaker 01

  Too big to ignore, too good, too polished. That's, that's the reason why the establishment is trying to destroy me. But the thing is that they, they can't find any dirt on me. So they're going after my brothers.

• 34:32Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I see.

• 34:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz I basically told everybody throughout my life to F off. And my brother Jonathan ended up getting fired from his job. We're in federal court right now.

• 34:41Cameron Hanes?

  Because of you?

• 34:42Speaker 01

  Yes, because of me.

• 34:42Cameron Hanes?

  Whoa.

• 34:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, he ended up getting fired from his job. And yeah, we're we're gonna be having some fun, the possessions very soon, later this year. Michael gets reported to his commanders in the National Guard, just because um he posted some pictures from his basic training that happened years ago.

• 34:58Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm.

• 34:59Speaker 01

  So since they couldn't find any dirt on me, they tried to destroy me through my brothers.

• 35:04Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm. Yeah.

• 35:06Speaker 01

  But what they don't know is that we're all fighters.

• 35:08Cameron Hanes?

  Who's they?

• 35:09Speaker 01

  The establishment.

• 35:11Cameron Hanes?

  I've got you.

• 35:11Speaker 01

  The people, the swamp that protects each other, each other, the top of the top.

• 35:15Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. How does, that's what drives me crazy. How does that eighty-four-year-old congressman for fifty years, come on? I mean, what about term limits? It's like, what?

• 35:25Speaker 01

  It all goes out the window when you're part of the group.

• 35:28Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it just, I mean, it's just not right.

• 35:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:31Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, we've got all eighty-year-old guys running this country. It's like, you can't tell me there's not young, smart, energetic men and women out there who could do a better job.

• 35:41Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 35:41Cameron Hanes?

  And not be compromised, because they're all, after that long, they're all compromised.

• 35:45Speaker 01

  The thing is that in politics, you're groomed, Cameron.

• 35:48Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 35:49Speaker 01

  And if they don't know you, if they cannot control you, if they don't know something that you have done, or you have nothing in your life that they can use against you, they're not gonna let you in. They will destroy you. They will try to destroy you one way or another through your financials, through your family. Like, I'm good in all of those things.

• 36:07Cameron Hanes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 36:08Speaker 01

  And that's the reason why they despise me so much, because I actually go and confront people.

• 36:12Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 36:12Speaker 01

  I don't mind confrontation.

• 36:13Cameron Hanes?

  That makes people uncomfortable, for sure.

• 36:15Speaker 01

  I love confrontation. I like, I love looking at people eye to eye and just go at it.

• 36:20Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, well, I mean, okay, so you're the perfect person to to answer this if you know, but. A lot of the fun, like a lot of the funds for these political candidates comes from Israel and that AIPAC. So how does that work with these candidates? Like they get millions of dollars?

• 36:40Speaker 01

  I wouldn't say not just Israel, like AIPAC, but I would, there's also a lot of foreign influence that comes from Qatar, Saudi Arabia, also all over the, all over the world. It's not just these countries.

• 36:53Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. Um, what, what comes with that money? Just that you will toe the line?

• 37:00Speaker 01

  It's gonna be how you vote.

• 37:02Cameron Hanes?

  It's like, so that they say we'll give, we'll contribute this much to your campaign. What do you need to do for that?

• 37:09Speaker 01

  Well, honestly, I have no idea in regards to that because the only money that has been offered to me was Muslim money.

• 37:16Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm. Gotcha.

• 37:18Speaker 01

  They told me just to tone it down, stop speaking about that and you'll have the money.

• 37:22Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I see.

• 37:23Speaker 01

  And nobody, since I'm not in Congress, nobody has ever told me, Valentina, you're gonna vote this way. But either way, I'm, I'm gonna vote with my conscience.

• 37:30Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 37:31Speaker 01

  I'm not gonna vote, Valentina, vote for Americans, soldiers, for American soldiers to go to war. Absolutely not, because my brother is one of them.

• 37:40Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 37:41Speaker 01

  Send your own sons and daughters. If we go to war and if you're a congressman or Congresswoman, your son or your daughter has to be the first one on the line. I don't care.

• 37:49Cameron Hanes?

  That's never gonna happen. Yeah, they'll, they'll never send their own kids for sure.

• 37:53Speaker 01

  They will sacrifice other people's children.

• 37:55Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, and it's the middle class, the working people, that, that's who goes. And they're, the elites never send their, you know, if they do, it's like, uh, they're not on the front lines for sure.

• 38:07Speaker 01

  They're for show.

• 38:07Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, for show, definitely. Um, yeah, what a fascinating journey though. I mean, I'm so impressed that you can come here, 2009, and make, accomplish all you have. Um, where did this work ethic come from? Is this from your mom and dad or, or what, why, how did this happen?

• 38:26Speaker 01

  I watched my parents go in on us while they were working 80 hour shifts at the factory. They put all their faith in us. No, here, here in the United States. Yeah, they, they were factory workers. We didn't even have a car, Cameron. We've lived in New Jersey, Virginia, Connecticut, Louisiana, Missouri, Texas, just trying to make it.

• 38:49Cameron Hanes?

  Really?

• 38:49Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I'll tell you this, when we were in Virginia was... fourteen years old, fourteen fifteen years old. We didn't even have money to buy a car, so we had to get an apartment. That was the closest to the pool, so we we lived right in front of the pool. And it was our way of making it into life, just swimming our way through life, swimming our way to success, and that's exactly what happened. My parents were working nonstop and they put their faith on us while they were while we were swimming.

• 39:17Cameron Hanes?

  When you were moving all those places, what were they just trying to find work or?

• 39:21Speaker 01

  A better swim team.

• 39:22Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, gotcha.

• 39:23Speaker 01

  A better swim team for us to.

• 39:24Cameron Hanes?

  So were you guys all swimmers?

• 39:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, we were all swimmers.

• 39:26Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 39:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:27Cameron Hanes?

  And how did you, so where did that talent come from?

• 39:30Speaker 01

  Uh, we've been swimming since we were little.

• 39:32Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 39:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:32Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, wow.

• 39:33Speaker 01

  My parents put us in a bunch of sports. We used to do soccer, basketball, tennis, but swimming is where we actually excelled the most.

• 39:42Cameron Hanes?

  Mm hmm, and then you could.

• 39:44Speaker 01

  I didn't like swimming. I just had to do whatever my brothers were doing, so I had to fall into their footsteps.

• 39:49Cameron Hanes?

  You were pretty good at it, it sounds like.

• 39:51Speaker 01

  Thank God, because they pushed me, because they made me compete at their level.

• 39:55Cameron Hanes?

  I see.

• 39:55Speaker 01

  And if it wasn't because of them, I wouldn't be here today.

• 39:57Cameron Hanes?

  I see, yeah, well, so swimming is what opened up the door to education then.

• 40:02Speaker 01

  To education, to opportunities.

• 40:04Cameron Hanes?

  Because what what would you have done without a scholarship, without swimming opportunities?

• 40:08Speaker 01

  Absolutely nothing.

• 40:08Cameron Hanes?

  You couldn't, you couldn't have went to school.

• 40:10Speaker 01

  I would, I wouldn't be able to pay for college, for grad school. I went to Tulane, everything is paid for. And thank God I have no debts and have the work ethic, thanks to swimming.

• 40:19Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 40:20Speaker 01

  Because I woke up at four AM, practiced from four thirty to six thirty, went to school, then back to the pool and then back to the gym, and then I got home.

• 40:29Cameron Hanes?

  Was there any question, like, did you, like, days when you didn't want to go or was it?

• 40:33Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 40:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 40:34Speaker 01

  Of course, but when you, when you're seeing your parents working eighty hour shifts, you don't make excuses.

• 40:39Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 40:40Speaker 01

  You put your head down and you show up to practice.

• 40:42Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I love it. What what's your mom and dad doing now?

• 40:45Speaker 01

  Now they live at home with us.

• 40:47Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 40:47Speaker 01

  I don't want them to work ever again. They already worked enough, the factories, it's hard.

• 40:52Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, definitely.

• 40:53Speaker 01

  It drains you, it kills you.

• 40:54Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, man.

• 40:54Speaker 01

  And they did it for so long that, um, and this is a conversation that I had with my brothers. We don't want them to ever touch a factory ever again. I don't care if I lose everything in my life. I will do it myself.

• 41:05Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 41:06Speaker 01

  And my parents are not suffering again.

• 41:07Cameron Hanes?

  And provide for them.

• 41:08Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 41:09Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, uh, that's.

• 41:10Speaker 01

  I'm gonna honor my parents till my last day.

• 41:12Cameron Hanes?

  How old are they right now?

• 41:13Speaker 01

  My mom is sixty-two and my dad is fifty-nine.

• 41:17Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 41:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:17Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, man, well.

• 41:19Speaker 01

  They can do other things.

• 41:20Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 41:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, but not that.

• 41:21Cameron Hanes?

  That, do they, uh, are they proud of you in, in this run for Congress? What, what are they thinking? Are they worried about you?

• 41:28Speaker 01

  They're extremely worried. They told me, Valentina, you gave your life, um, by being in finance, by making a lot of money for politics, the dirtiest sport in the world. The one where people actually wanna kill you. And I get a lot of death threats. A lot of people want me dead.

• 41:43Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 41:44Speaker 01

  I get calls from the FBI every other week telling me not to show up to a certain place because they found somebody that wants to murder me. And I tell them, well, what's their name?

• 41:51Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 41:52Speaker 01

  Tell me what they looked like. They're like, no, no, just don't show up here. Like, I'm gonna show up there and see.

• 41:56Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 41:56Speaker 01

  Yeah. One day, there was one phone call that they told me, uh, don't show up to Costco. I like going to Costco. I'm going to Costco right now. Let's see what happens.

• 42:04Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 42:05Speaker 01

  Yeah. Cameron, when it's my time to go, it'll be my time to go. That's how I see life.

• 42:09Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 42:10Speaker 01

  That's why I just go all in every day. And I'm grateful to Jesus Christ for every day that I get to be here.

• 42:15Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, well, we all should be. You're, you're very intense. It's like, I love it. I love, I love people, I love passion. You know what I mean? It's like so many people go through life and you don't really know where they stand on anything. And it's like, I'm like, I don't care. I've always said, well, and I tell my son this too, it's like, he's like on, I don't know, he's a social media guy. Yeah, but I'm like, but the whole point is.

• 42:38Speaker 01

  Warriors.

• 42:39Cameron Hanes?

  Make, make people care, right? And so either they love you or they hate you, but at least they care. There's at least some feelings and you, you caused that. So I'm like, I applaud that for sure, cuz there's no guessing on where you stand on anything. And that's what I wanna know. I don't wanna, I don't wanna vote for people or even meet people who are, I'm like, I don't really know what they're about cuz they don't really say.

• 42:58Speaker 01

  I'm not a flip-flopper.

• 42:59Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 42:59Speaker 01

  I'm a straight shooter.

• 43:00Cameron Hanes?

  Exactly. And that's, that's, that's what I love. That's what I try to be myself. So that's why I'm like, for you to be so brave to say what you, how you feel and put it out there and be judged on it. You know how many people are afraid of doing that? I mean, most.

• 43:14Speaker 01

  I mean, I don't know them. I don't know those people.

• 43:16Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I know.

• 43:17Speaker 01

  With me, I I'm okay with with the backlash, with criticism, with the pain, because at the end of the day, just like your son says, it's just pain.

• 43:27Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 43:27Speaker 01

  And if you don't stand for something, Cameron, you will fall for anything.

• 43:30Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's a, no, I I agree with that. And I like, I don't know. You know, my son was in the military, he's in the army, and so, definitely so proud of him for serving. He wanted to do something, you know, he said he had more to offer this world. He wanted to do something bigger than he was, and that was so amazing. And now it's like, now I look at some of these wars and I look at, you know, our service members, and I'm like, God, I hope they're not pawns, you know, in some some game that that that our leaders don't care about them, you know, because it feels like that sometimes. Now you're looking at that when the curtain pulled is pulled back and you're just like, what is going on?

• 44:10Cameron Hanes?

  And what are these people doing? It's like, I don't trust what they're doing. I don't trust their decision making. I don't trust where the money's going. I don't trust them using our military for things that aren't benefiting our own country. I don't I don't like it. And I've changed, that's changed so much from when my son joined, and I was so proud, and I was like, it's like.

• 44:28Speaker 01

  When did he join?

• 44:29Cameron Hanes?

  When?

• 44:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:30Cameron Hanes?

  Um, God, when was that? Probably maybe 2019, 2020? Yeah, right in there.

• 44:38Speaker 01

  Underwriting?

• 44:39Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 44:39Speaker 01

  Well, not right now. About to be in the writing, yeah.

• 44:42Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 44:43Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 44:43Cameron Hanes?

  But he, you know.

• 44:44Speaker 01

  And warfare has changed so much, because nowadays, it's just drones.

• 44:48Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 44:49Speaker 01

  Drone strikes.

• 44:50Cameron Hanes?

  Well, and that's, yeah, I don't know what they're gonna do in Iran, but, I mean, they talked about having boots on the ground over there, which I don't like that. I mean.

• 44:59Speaker 01

  We have no business there.

• 45:01Cameron Hanes?

  It's, I don't, I mean.

• 45:03Speaker 01

  Whether people hate me for saying that,

• 45:06Cameron Hanes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 45:07Speaker 01

  I don't care about it. I don't agree with with putting boots in the ground there, with sacrificing our own Americans, our own American soldiers, good men.

• 45:15Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, and how's that?

• 45:16Speaker 01

  Going thousands of miles away.

• 45:18Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 45:18Speaker 01

  Just to die for other people that are not, we have those very same terrorists right here in American soil.

• 45:23Cameron Hanes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 45:24Speaker 01

  I want them deployed here, in Texas, actually.

• 45:27Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 45:27Speaker 01

  Send them all to Texas.

• 45:28Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm. Yeah, I know. It's a, it's really hard. I don't like that.

• 45:35Cameron Hanes?

  I just don't like having that doubt on the back of my head that we're doing the right. Are we doing the right thing or not? You know what I mean? It's like, that's why it kinda, it worked with the, you know, nine eleven worked because they're like, oh, here's a bad guy. We gotta get the bad guy. Our country was unified. And then you find out that, was that real? I don't, was that even real? And now, we, I don't know. It's like, when we didn't have to question all of it, man, it made you feel more at peace. And now it's like, like the game board's been turned upside down. It's like, I don't know what to believe. And I don't know if I, what I did believe in was real. It's, it's so hard.

• 46:14Speaker 01

  War is a failure, failure in diplomacy.

• 46:19Speaker 01

  That's how I see it.

• 46:19Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I, I would agree with that. And didn't, I mean, Trump also ran on saying that he could, you know, we talk about diplomacy, he could stop war because he could work with these people. You know, he'd always talk about Kim, Kim Jong-un and all these, his relationships he'd have with all these leaders at Putin and, and everything else. It's like, oh no, they won't, they won't go against me because of whatever. What happened to that?

• 46:46Speaker 01

  No idea.

• 46:48Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, well, I think we're on the same page on most of all that stuff, for sure.

• 46:53Speaker 01

  Nobody wants war. Nobody wants seeing your own son or your own daughter getting killed.

• 46:58Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's a, and also,

• 47:03Cameron Hanes?

  I just don't like, you know, I hear Trump talk about the bombs and the great bombs and the bombs we gave to, to Netanyahu and then using them on women and kids. It's just, it just, man, it just is heartbreaking.

• 47:19Speaker 01

  It's, it's tough to lead a country.

• 47:21Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, definitely.

• 47:22Speaker 01

  Because

• 47:22Cameron Hanes?

  Definitely hard.

• 47:23Speaker 01

  Because there's a lot of interest.

• 47:25Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, and it's like, so we talk about, you know, I get criticized a little bit. You get criticized a lot. Could you imagine how much, you know, Trump, obviously, we're talking about Trump a lot, criticizing him. That would be, I mean, I, I can't think of a harder job.

• 47:39Speaker 01

  Constant criticism.

• 47:40Cameron Hanes?

  I, I don't even know how, I can't sleep sometimes with my little problems. How, how would he ever sleep?

• 47:49Cameron Hanes?

  I don't get it.

• 47:49Speaker 01

  I think that's what he says. I don't sleep that much.

• 47:52Cameron Hanes?

  Well, yeah.

• 47:53Speaker 01

  Like four or five hours.

• 47:55Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know how you would. So what's your goal with um with this campaign? Like what's the, how are you going to put pressure on to get that opportunity to debate? Or to win this election?

• 48:07Speaker 01

  Well, the election is next week. The work is already done. It's going to be up to the people now, Cameron, if they want change or if they want to stay with the same.

• 48:15Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 48:16Speaker 01

  And sadly, yes, the election right now, my election is being stolen as we speak. But hopefully, hopefully it's too big to rig.

• 48:23Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I know. I mean, you have a huge following on Instagram. I don't know about your other, I mean, the other platforms is as is good. Yeah.

• 48:33Speaker 01

  Thank God. And it's, it's, it's been, it's been a lot of work. It's not easy. If people want to do the things that I'm doing, if people want to reach the following that I have, you have to go against the tide. You have to go against the world.

• 48:46Cameron Hanes?

  For sure.

• 48:46Speaker 01

  And make sure you have Jesus Christ with you. Make sure you're speaking the truth. Make sure you reject the money that that gets offered to you. I've been offered parties, homes, cars, but thank God I already had those things before. So I got to say no.

• 49:00Cameron Hanes?

  But so how many people are offered those that aren't in your position? That didn't work as hard as you did that do cave in and take that money? You know, that's most of them.

• 49:07Speaker 01

  Look at their voting record.

• 49:08Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 49:08Speaker 01

  Look what they do.

• 49:09Cameron Hanes?

  That's vote, that's most of them. It's like they're just bought and paid for. And that's, that's what's so hard to, because we don't know as, as the voting public, we don't know who's compromised or who's not. You know, I mean, I guess you could look at their voting record and see how, how often they toe the line or go against it. But yeah, it's so tough. Um, yeah, it's a, I don't understand. Like, so how, okay, this is what I was interested in. How, do you know how many votes he got last time to win?

• 49:39Speaker 01

  Last time to win, um, about for, well, for the primary about.

• 49:45Speaker 01

  Fifty thousand.

• 49:46Cameron Hanes?

  Fifty thousand.

• 49:47Speaker 01

  I just need to get at least twenty five thousand or more, more than fifty percent.

• 49:50Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, you should be able to do that. How many, I mean hardly anybody votes anymore these days or half the people vote. So if you can.

• 49:57Speaker 01

  As long as they can find me on the ballot.

• 49:59Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that too. If you can inspire them to actually vote, which most people have big opinions and don't vote. So people get out there and vote if you care about your state, your, your country, vote. Um, and then, yeah, being on the ballot, but that's not a crazy amount of votes. If you look at your following, you look at like, I don't know how much, I assume most of your support's in Texas.

• 50:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:22Cameron Hanes?

  But that should be doable. You should be able to reach that many people.

• 50:26Speaker 01

  Unless they rig it.

• 50:27Cameron Hanes?

  Unless they.

• 50:28Speaker 01

  Because we have voting machines, Cameron, and voting machines, you can hack them. The only thing you cannot hack is pen and paper.

• 50:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 50:34Speaker 01

  Piece of paper.

• 50:35Cameron Hanes?

  Right. It's a.

• 50:36Speaker 01

  And it's crazy that we have early voting. We shouldn't be having any of that. It should be one day to vote. Same day voting.

• 50:44Cameron Hanes?

  Yep.

• 50:44Speaker 01

  No mailing ballots, except for the elderly that they, they can't come to the actual, um, for them to vote.

• 50:49Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 50:49Speaker 01

  And also for our military that are stationed overseas. The rest.

• 50:52Cameron Hanes?

  Shouldn't be that hard.

• 50:53Speaker 01

  You gotta come and vote.

• 50:54Cameron Hanes?

  That shouldn't be that hard.

• 50:55Speaker 01

  There's hundreds of voting locations for you to come and vote, for you to pass your vote.

• 51:00Cameron Hanes?

  There is the reason why they don't do that is because they can rig it then?

• 51:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:04Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So it's a problem they really don't want to face.

• 51:07Speaker 01

  Even dogs are voting, you know, but dogs are voting. I can't even vote in my own election. Because I'll tell you this, I'm registered to a P O box, which is not illegal. I, because I have the, the addresses of thousands of people that live in Texas that are registered to vote. And many of them are registered to a P O box because we've sent mailers to the, to, um, those P O boxes. And I'm like, if they can vote, then why can't I? You see, it's because they couldn't find any dirt on me. The only dirt I could find is that I'm registered to a P O box. And this is all for security.

• 51:35Cameron Hanes?

  All they got.

• 51:36Speaker 01

  All they got. This is all for security purposes because I get thousands of death threats. A lot of people want to kill me. And the media proved me right by making my address, my addresses public. Now my family's in danger. My dogs are in danger too. Last time my dogs were poisoned. My dad was almost killed. And you know, it's, I signed up for this.

• 51:54Cameron Hanes?

  Did they find out?

• 51:55Speaker 01

  No.

• 51:55Cameron Hanes?

  No.

• 51:55Speaker 01

  Of course they're not, they're not gonna find out.

• 51:57Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 51:58Speaker 01

  They just have to brush it away.

• 52:01Cameron Hanes?

  Man.

• 52:02Speaker 01

  If I'm not part of the club, they don't care.

• 52:03Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 52:04Speaker 01

  They hope that I get killed.

• 52:06Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 52:06Speaker 01

  Then I'm not a problem.

• 52:07Cameron Hanes?

  They can get somebody in there they can control.

• 52:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:09Cameron Hanes?

  Like this old guy, John.

• 52:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, he can't even speak, so I made that video public.

• 52:14Cameron Hanes?

  How, how is that? Man.

• 52:17Speaker 01

  He, he was just gabble, blah, blah, blah, saying that. And he had to be escorted out, I think it was by his daughter. So it's also his family and his staff that are complacent with this. Because they wanna, they wanna hold on to the power. They wanna hold on to the perks.

• 52:31Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, no.

• 52:31Speaker 01

  Twenty-two years in Congress, you, you can move a lot of people.

• 52:35Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 52:35Speaker 01

  You have a lot of people that owe you favors and you owe favors as well to a lot of people.

• 52:39Cameron Hanes?

  Right, yeah. Is that, isn't that like, don't you think that's what happened with the Epstein thing is like, they have all this video and photos and it was just to control people, right? Wasn't it just?

• 52:50Speaker 01

  I'm sure.

• 52:50Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that it was just, um, I mean, and you talked about, we talked about pedophiles. So you've actually been on the streets helping.

• 52:58Speaker 01

  Oh, yes.

• 52:59Cameron Hanes?

  Is.

• 52:59Speaker 01

  That's my favorite thing to do.

• 53:00Cameron Hanes?

  Really?

• 53:00Speaker 01

  I love doing it. I get to pose as, sometimes as a thirteen-year-old. One pedophile told me that I didn't look thirteen and that got to me, I'm like, excuse me?

• 53:12Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 53:13Speaker 01

  I got so offended. But the first one I caught was in Missouri, then we went, uh, then it was Iowa, then all over Texas.

• 53:20Cameron Hanes?

  How, where did this start? Like, how, why'd you start doing this? Just cuz?

• 53:23Speaker 01

  Because of my friend Alex Rosen. So he actually catches pedophiles all over the nation. He travels all around and he's, sometimes he catches like three pedophiles a day. And I told him, Alex, I wanna join you.

• 53:35Cameron Hanes?

  Just from like chat, like on, online chats?

• 53:37Speaker 01

  I met him on X. I met him on X and his team. And, um, we basically just chat with those people. Sometimes it takes two to three months to get them to come out and meet with us.

• 53:47Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I see.

• 53:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:48Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 53:49Speaker 01

  And we find them on Facebook, Instagram, Blue Sky, a lot of Blue Sky.

• 53:53Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know, what is Blue Sky?

• 53:55Speaker 01

  Blue Sky is like the gay version of X.

• 53:57Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 53:57Speaker 01

  For liberals.

• 53:58Cameron Hanes?

  James probably knows all about that.

• 54:01Speaker 01

  Don't go to Blue Sky, it's successful of weak people.

• 54:04Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, um, oh, man, it's such an issue these days.

• 54:08Speaker 01

  But I love doing that.

• 54:08Cameron Hanes?

  So much evil out there.

• 54:10Speaker 01

  Because you put all the anger because they confess to you. Yes, I have child porn. I molested my, my niece when she was a toddler. And then at that point, you put the rage away and then you just keep getting them to keep talking.

• 54:23Cameron Hanes?

  Playing the game, yeah.

• 54:24Speaker 01

  Have you, do you have any porn in your phone? Any child porn? Oh, yes, I do. I don't want to see it, but how many videos do you have?

• 54:32Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm.

• 54:33Speaker 01

  Ten, fifteen? How do those videos get to you? Telegram, Facebook?

• 54:39Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm.

• 54:39Speaker 01

  Signal to TikTok as well? And also, um, in, also in video, um, like, uh, gaming places like Roblox? In Roblox, there's a lot of pedophiles.

• 54:51Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm.

• 54:51Speaker 01

  So that's accessible for pedophiles because that's where the highest amount of children are connected.

• 54:58Cameron Hanes?

  Is it a gaming platform?

• 54:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, gaming platform.

• 55:00Cameron Hanes?

  Gotcha.

• 55:00Speaker 01

  Yeah. And they groom you, they get you to meet with them, and then they abuse you.

• 55:05Cameron Hanes?

  God.

• 55:06Speaker 01

  And pedophiles are patient. They're willing to talk to you for months just to get you to come out. And then they'll rape you out of your innocence.

• 55:14Cameron Hanes?

  God, that is disgusting. Hmm, well, I'm, I'm glad you're, you know, involved in that too, because the passion you have for everything else, it's like, I'm sure you're really good at that.

• 55:23Speaker 01

  Sometimes I just want to punch them in the face, but no, I want them arrested. I want them arrested, yeah.

• 55:29Cameron Hanes?

  I remember I was in a, there was something about, I think, my old job, we had to interview, I think it was, I think it was military preference. So we had to interview him. But he was a, you know, then he asked, have you ever been convicted of a felony? And then it was like, something like pedophilia, I can't remember what it was.

• 55:49Speaker 01

  Really?

• 55:49Cameron Hanes?

  I couldn't even. We had to do the interview, I guess. It was so hard, dude. It was so hard for me to not think about what evil that, you know, and so I can't, I don't know, I don't even know. I don't even know what the point to that story was, other than I can't hardly look at people that would do that.

• 56:09Speaker 01

  You can't rehabilitate a pedophile.

• 56:10Cameron Hanes?

  Can't what?

• 56:11Speaker 01

  You can't rehabilitate a pedophile.

• 56:12Cameron Hanes?

  No, no, no. I mean, that's what I was just almost on a, on a jury for a pedophile charge. And I was just saying in there, you know, he was saying like it wasn't his fault is like entrapment, right? And I, my thing, and I said that, and I got kicked off the jury, thank God, because I didn't want to have to be on it. But I said, you can't, you can't be tricked into being a pedophile, or, or you can't be tricked into molesting a child. You know, that's not, it's not how it works. And it's like, to your point, like, you can't rehabilitate him either. It doesn't seem like, I don't know. I don't know.

• 56:42Speaker 01

  That's the same thing they, they tell me to, oh, I'm never gonna do this again. This was just a one time thing. It's a lie. It is not a one time thing. They've been doing it for years. They know what they're doing. They just like to play the victim card.

• 56:53Cameron Hanes?

  Right. Yeah.

• 56:54Speaker 01

  And if you, honestly, if you want my honest opinion, shoot him. I want him to be publicly executed. Three meals a day is too kind for a pedophile.

• 57:02Cameron Hanes?

  That's what, and I brought that up when I was, you know, on that jury too, is like that, do you remember that old video that a woman, her, I think her, her daughter was raped and killed, and she was in the courtroom, pulled the gun and shot the guy?

• 57:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've seen that video.

• 57:16Cameron Hanes?

  I said, I brought that up, and I said, I like that video. That's what, I mean, as bad as it sounds, that's the justice I want to see.

• 57:24Speaker 01

  We just need to be quicker with the death penalty.

• 57:26Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. That's the justice I want to see for these Epstein people too, by the way.

• 57:30Speaker 01

  I don't disagree.

• 57:32Cameron Hanes?

  Drives me insane. Um, okay, so, uh, yeah, I, I just love, I love your passion for all this. Um, I just, man, I would love to see you debate this guy.

• 57:45Speaker 01

  Me too. I'm trying. I'm offering a lot of money.

• 57:48Cameron Hanes?

  You say he can't talk?

• 57:49Speaker 01

  He can't talk.

• 57:51Cameron Hanes?

  And you put this up?

• 57:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's up, it's online. And even when, then he had a press, press conference, um, a few weeks later. And I had my brother and somebody else from my team go ask him questions.

• 58:03Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 58:04Speaker 01

  And we asked him, why did you vote for, um, for this bill to send three hundred and fifteen million dollars to the National Endowment for Democracy? This is a nonprofit organization that censors, uh, that censors and attacks conservatives all over. You know, so a Republican sending three hundred and fifteen million dollars to a useless nonprofit that just attacks us nonstop. And he says, I didn't vote for that. I didn't do any of that. So he doesn't even know what he's voting for. It's somebody else that's voting for him, Cameron.

• 58:31Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, yeah, it's, uh...

• 58:33Speaker 01

  And sadly...

• 58:36Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, let me show you the video. Let me see. Oh, yeah, I think it's this one.

• 58:50Speaker 01

  Okay, here it is. Okay, okay.

• 58:54Speaker 01

  This is him. Go ahead, play.

• 59:09Speaker 02

  Congressman, I have a question. Sir, why weren't you doing anything for my brothers and sisters in arms? Now we're getting kicked out of the military for refusing to take the COVID vaccine.

• 59:22Speaker 02

  My brothers and sisters in arms that served with me, that got kicked out, sir, because they refused to take the COVID vaccine at that time.

• 59:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you didn't do anything for us, Congressman. You've done nothing for twenty-two years, sir.

• 59:41Speaker 03

  I've done nothing for twenty-two years.

• 59:42Speaker 02

  Nothing, you can barely stand, sir. You can barely get off the stage. What did you just do?

• 59:50Speaker 02

  And, and let me ask you a question, Congressman. Why did you send three hundred and fifteen million dollars of our taxpayer money to vote with the Democrats to fund the NED, the National Endowment for Democracy? And this is a fair question, sir. I'm being respectful to you, sir.

• 1:00:06Speaker 02

  Go ahead.

• 1:00:09Speaker 02

  Yes Congressman, you voted to send 315 million dollars of our taxpayer money to fund the National Endowment for Democracy. Do you not forget, do you not remember your own voting record?

• 1:00:25Speaker 02

  The what?

• 1:00:25Cameron Hanes?

  He doesn't even know what he's talking about.

• 1:00:28Speaker 01

  He's waiting for it.

• 1:00:29Speaker 03

  National Endowment for the Arts.

• 1:00:32Speaker 01

  For the arts.

• 1:00:33Speaker 03

  National Endowment for all of the other level endowments we eliminated.

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  Sir, you just voted to fund 315 million dollars to the National Endowment for Democracy. I'm asking a question, I'm asking a question.

• 1:00:48Speaker 01

  And that's his handler, then he steps in.

• 1:00:50Speaker 02

  I'm asking a question, I'm not.

• 1:00:52Speaker 01

  Because he knows that John Carter messed up.

• 1:00:53Speaker 02

  The cameras, make sure they're rolling because we want to, I'm just, we're two service members. I'm currently serving in the military, I want answers. You are hardworking Americans, you work hard for your money. This politician has been there for 22 years and he's done nothing for us but increase our property taxes. Has done nothing? What did he just do? And let me, let me just tell you.

• 1:01:15Speaker 01

  And then all of his people, all of his team.

• 1:01:17Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:19Cameron Hanes?

  They, well, first of all, there's hardly anybody there. So does anybody care, I mean, nobody even.

• 1:01:24Speaker 01

  Well, he's in Congress, he has a lot of power.

• 1:01:26Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:27Speaker 01

  And you know how he said, "I didn't vote for the National Endowment of the Arts." He doesn't even know what he's voting for, that's not even a thing.

• 1:01:32Cameron Hanes?

  He doesn't know what he's talking about, yeah. He's a, he did.

• 1:01:36Speaker 01

  It's sad, it's sad because at the end of the day, Cameron, hardworking Americans, our soldiers and children end up paying the price.

• 1:01:43Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, the taxes that we have to pay for that 300, was it 50 or 15, whatever it was. Yeah, it's like, that's us paying that.

• 1:01:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:51Cameron Hanes?

  And he, he voted to make that happen, we're saddled with that.

• 1:01:55Speaker 01

  Two weeks ago. Two weeks ago, and then he also voted to send 5 billion dollars to refugees. So the money's still going out the window to refugees worldwide.

• 1:02:05Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:05Speaker 01

  Congress is still sending that money, even though they like to talk all of that garbage that the border is closed. Yeah, but you're still sending billions of dollars overseas while our streets are shit.

• 1:02:15Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:15Speaker 01

  Our veterans are sleeping on the streets.

• 1:02:17Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's, it's, it's wrong, but like, that video right there.

• 1:02:23Speaker 01

  That's why they don't want me in office, that's why they're trying to destroy me right now.

• 1:02:27Cameron Hanes?

  That's why.

• 1:02:27Speaker 01

  That's why Michael is getting reported to his commanders in the National Guard.

• 1:02:30Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:31Speaker 01

  Because it's all coming from him, from above, from the very swamp.

• 1:02:35Cameron Hanes?

  Man, that is, that is sad to see. But it's not like that's not happening everywhere.

• 1:02:41Speaker 01

  In every state.

• 1:02:41Cameron Hanes?

  All over our country.

• 1:02:42Speaker 01

  And in every office.

• 1:02:43Cameron Hanes?

  And every, you know, they can control guys just like that. That guy doesn't even know what day it is.

• 1:02:49Speaker 01

  I think, but the perks, the money, the power.

• 1:02:52Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, and, and he can allocate millions of dollars, doesn't know what day it is, and we, we have to live with that. Oh, man.

• 1:03:00Speaker 01

  You have to pay for that.

• 1:03:01Cameron Hanes?

  That shit drives me crazy.

• 1:03:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's, that's the reason I'm running, because I care. I care for the future of Texas, Cameron.

• 1:03:06Cameron Hanes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:03:07Speaker 01

  I care for every vote, and they don't want people like me in Congress, because we would actually expose it all.

• 1:03:13Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:13Speaker 01

  It's just, I, I will actually say, what the hell is all of this?

• 1:03:15Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 1:03:16Speaker 01

  I'm gonna livestream it.

• 1:03:17Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 1:03:18Speaker 01

  That's what I wanna do. I wanna open up the books for everybody to see, because I have nothing to hide.

• 1:03:23Cameron Hanes?

  That's what I want. I don't know what American wouldn't want that. I mean, we should all demand that. You know what I mean? If we want full transparency, and that's again, that's what Trump always ran on, that he was gonna be the most transparent president. I want it from the top down. I'm not just saying, I'm not putting on on him, I want it on everybody, just like what you're saying. On the Congress level, on every level, hey, let's be honest about what's going on here. And like, who, who's bought and paid for? It's like, I wanna see who your donors are, and what, what rules or...

• 1:03:54Speaker 01

  What did you promise them?

• 1:03:55Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, what did you have to do for that money?

• 1:03:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:57Cameron Hanes?

  Cause there's, they're not just giving it to you for no reason. Oh, man. Politics, dude.

• 1:04:04Speaker 01

  And we're all affected by it.

• 1:04:07Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, every day. Even more so now, cause my taxes are just caught.

• 1:04:12Speaker 01

  They just keep going up. I have properties all over the nation, and oh my God, the bill that I see every year, it just keeps getting higher, higher and higher.

• 1:04:21Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, um, so...

• 1:04:22Speaker 01

  And many people are getting taxed out of their homes in Texas, and these are seniors. Seniors are literally losing their homes. Some of them have to bring roommates in, and so they can afford to pay for, for their taxes, for the high cost of living, while we're sending millions and billions of dollars overseas. If you ask me, stop sending all of these millions of dollars to the nations that hate us, you know, to all of them.

• 1:04:46Cameron Hanes?

  I know.

• 1:04:48Speaker 01

  End it, or stop it for at least five years.

• 1:04:50Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:50Speaker 01

  Let us recuperate ourselves.

• 1:04:53Cameron Hanes?

  Where are we? How much in debt are we? Can we really afford that? Yeah, can we really afford that?

• 1:04:58Speaker 01

  Just keep printing, printing and printing.

• 1:04:59Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's nuts. James, what did you have over there? James comes up with questions too for us.

• 1:05:10Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, sorry, caught you off guard.

• 1:05:13Speaker 01

  Michael, give us some questions, Mike.

• 1:05:14Speaker 04

  I got a couple, a couple of good ones.

• 1:05:16Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:18Speaker 04

  And I've just, just so happened, I've been having similar conversations, but you guys were talking about specific things in the Quran that are, you know, it says things that we wouldn't agree with. But every time I've brought that up to other friends, they bring up, there are some things in the Old Testament that also would be hard to agree with in today's society. So I just want to kind of further the discussion and your opinion on maybe choosing things out of old texts or religions that you don't agree with, but then making that blanket statement that all people of that religion follow those sayings where I know is like, in the Bible, you know, there's certain things that talk about,

• 1:05:58Speaker 04

  if a man rapes a woman, he is then required to give her father 50 shekels and marry her. Obviously, as a Christian, we don't agree with that, right? But it says that in the Old Testament. So what are your thoughts on things like that?

• 1:06:16Speaker 01

  So I don't agree with everything. I'm not going to say that I'm a perfect Christian, because even, even the Bible says, love your neighbor. Sometimes your neighbor wants to kill you and, you know, I, I hate some people. I won't, I won't say that I don't, because they're so evil, just like pedophiles, that you just want to, just want to

• 1:06:37Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:38Speaker 01

  Send them back to Jesus.

• 1:06:39Cameron Hanes?

  Right, yeah, I understand that.

• 1:06:41Speaker 01

  And in regards to, to that, God is very clear. I mean, at least in the Bible. He's open about what like what not to do and what to do, you know? And it says, do not rape, do not kill, do not do any of these things. And that's the Old Testament. Then Jesus came, he gave us salvation, gave us redemption. And we just have to follow his example.

• 1:07:00Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:01Speaker 01

  You know, that's, that's the reason he came because we have to follow his example. He lived a perfect life for thirty three years. Then he got crucified for us to one day be in his kingdom.

• 1:07:11Cameron Hanes?

  Right. And, and as you said, you're not the perfect Christian because Jesus would, he would offer grace even to the, to the worst of the worst. You know, you talk about the, your evil neighbor that wants to kill you. Jesus still would.

• 1:07:24Speaker 01

  And that's what I wrestle with, you know, with God. That's, that's each one of us wrestles with something.

• 1:07:29Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm.

• 1:07:30Speaker 01

  You know, I'm like, I'm not perfect, but that's the one thing I wrestle with the most.

• 1:07:33Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, cuz we, we said, we both kind of agree.

• 1:07:35Speaker 01

  I just wanna go hard on everybody.

• 1:07:37Cameron Hanes?

  I know.

• 1:07:37Speaker 01

  Fight, fight, fight, just like I like to execute on everything.

• 1:07:40Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, no, and like when we said, you know, the best answer for a pedophile is to end them.

• 1:07:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:48Cameron Hanes?

  That's not Jesus like, that's not Christian like by the book for sure. So I understand we are flawed in that, you know, because we want justice immediate.

• 1:07:56Speaker 01

  Very much so.

• 1:07:57Cameron Hanes?

  And, and I, I get that, but yeah, it's a, especially when you talk about the Old Testament. Um, it, it is pretty hardcore stuff in there.

• 1:08:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I'm not, I'm, I'm not, um, super proficient on all of the, all of the theology. Yeah. That goes behind the Bible.

• 1:08:14Cameron Hanes?

  Me neither, I'm pretty, pretty basic.

• 1:08:17Speaker 01

  That's why I don't preach, you know, so much on the Bible. But I can only speak from experience. I can only tell you what God has done in my life, Cameron.

• 1:08:25Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:25Speaker 01

  And the things that have been offered to me, the things that I have rejected, and what I've seen with my very own two eyes. And I've seen the worst of the worst.

• 1:08:33Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I bet, I bet.

• 1:08:34Speaker 01

  And it makes you, it makes you believe in Jesus Christ even more. Because once you see this much evil, you just wanna get closer to God.

• 1:08:42Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, and I think that's maybe the revelation that's been most important is like, people didn't know that like the Epstein files, that level of evil existed. I didn't know. I, I, I was blind to that myself until I started reading what these men have done. And then I'm like, well, if there's this much evil, then there's gotta be the opposite of that. There's gotta be this much love with Jesus and, and, you know, um, you know, our fathers like, there, there's that love that has to. That has to be the antithesis of the evil out there. So it gives us hope that if there's that bad, there's got to be just as good. And that's what I'm relying on.

• 1:09:21Speaker 01

  And there's many of Epstein's all around the world.

• 1:09:24Cameron Hanes?

  That's terrible.

• 1:09:24Speaker 01

  This one just got caught, but there's many more that we don't know about. Look at Diddy. That's another thing.

• 1:09:32Cameron Hanes?

  God, yeah, the whole Hollywood part, man.

• 1:09:36Speaker 01

  Hollywood is full of satanic pedophiles.

• 1:09:38Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, can't I can't. Yeah, I mean, nothing shocks me now, but sad. What else you got?

• 1:09:47Speaker 04

  So with kind of everything that's been getting exposed over the past months or year, whatever it is, there's a faction of people that believe anybody in a political seat should be US born, because there's people in Congress or people that have chairs in a political seat that have allegiances to other countries. And they've even said this. So as someone from another country, born in another country, what do you believe is the right way to go about this? And and to make sure that although you're born in Colombia, you still have America's best interests in mind?

• 1:10:21Speaker 01

  I absolutely agree with that. And when I get into Congress, I actually want to put legislation that bans people from foreign born countries to run for office, because we cannot have people like Ilhan Omar, like Rashida Tlaib, or Tlaib, I don't know how to say her last name. If you want to run for office, you should be born in the United States of America. But it has to be someone that legislation has to be put by someone that actually wasn't born here.

• 1:10:43Cameron Hanes?

  So that would eliminate you then?

• 1:10:45Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 1:10:45Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:46Speaker 01

  And that's fine if I'm getting taken out.

• 1:10:48Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 1:10:48Speaker 01

  I'm willing to sacrifice myself just for that. But I want good people to run for office. I don't see anybody like me running for office, Cameron.

• 1:10:55Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, but like, there could be good people like you.

• 1:10:57Speaker 01

  And I want them. I want them to run.

• 1:10:59Cameron Hanes?

  But you'd eliminate them. Yeah, but you're willing to do that?

• 1:11:03Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:11:04Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, I see. Well, that's standing by your convictions for sure. And it's like, nobody can.

• 1:11:09Speaker 01

  And I wish I was born in America. I would give, and honestly. Anybody on the Obama team that wants to give me

• 1:11:15Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, they can change your Yeah, they can fix that.

• 1:11:18Speaker 01

  The link to say that I was born here.

• 1:11:20Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, you were born in Eugene, Oregon.

• 1:11:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, yeah, Eugene, of course.

• 1:11:25Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:26Speaker 01

  We hike mountains, we hunt elk, I know everything.

• 1:11:29Cameron Hanes?

  Been hunting elk since the day I was born here.

• 1:11:31Speaker 01

  We're gonna fix the accent.

• 1:11:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, you have the classic Oregon accent.

• 1:11:35Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, you know, this is the Eugene accent.

• 1:11:43Speaker 01

  Oh, yes, let's, yeah, let's, yeah, abortion as well.

• 1:11:47Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:47Speaker 01

  Right now abortion is is normalized.

• 1:11:49Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:50Speaker 01

  The the most dangerous place for a child to be in it's in their mother's womb.

• 1:11:54Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, and you know, you can, we can like

• 1:11:57Speaker 01

  The majority of my generation has already been sacrificed to abortion.

• 1:12:01Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I know, that's what's, that's what's crazy is, and not crazy, I I understand, I I guess I don't understand, but we have a lot of people upset about Epstein and the women and and children that were harmed in that, but ignore abortion. It's like, to me, those are not that far apart. I mean, we're eliminate, we're, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know how to even

• 1:12:28Speaker 01

  We're sacrificing children one way or another.

• 1:12:30Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:30Speaker 01

  Whether it's within the womb or out of the womb.

• 1:12:33Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I don't know how to, yeah, I don't know how to convey how I feel, but

• 1:12:37Speaker 01

  If they can't get you when you're a baby, when you're in your mother's belly, they'll get you when you're outside.

• 1:12:42Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:42Speaker 01

  When you're vulnerable.

• 1:12:43Cameron Hanes?

  So what's your, what's your opinion on abortion then?

• 1:12:45Speaker 01

  Abortion is murder.

• 1:12:46Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, okay. I I was, I was guessing, I just didn't

• 1:12:49Speaker 01

  I I hope, I don't have children yet, Cameron, but I hope one day to be a mother, to have lots of children. Maybe not Elon Musk's numbers.

• 1:12:56Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:57Speaker 01

  But maybe five.

• 1:12:59Cameron Hanes?

  I know, we're, uh, we're definitely, I mean, the, the regular family values, having kids, being married, um, you know, empowering women, like celebrating women that want to have kids instead of the professional, you know, women that

• 1:13:15Speaker 01

  Raising children.

• 1:13:16Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 1:13:16Speaker 01

  You're raising little one of, little ones of you.

• 1:13:18Cameron Hanes?

  Your own children, yeah, and it's like instead of, um, I I don't know, I mean, it's like just the core family values are being lost, it seems like, you know, something else is being promoted or

• 1:13:29Speaker 01

  Because feminism came into the picture.

• 1:13:31Cameron Hanes?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:13:31Speaker 01

  Feminism took God and men out of the equation. And basically now a bunch of men are feminized and they're weak. And now women, women stood up and they're saying, oh, we're boss babes.

• 1:13:42Cameron Hanes?

  Right. Yeah.

• 1:13:44Speaker 01

  And now they treat men like second-class citizens.

• 1:13:47Cameron Hanes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:13:48Speaker 01

  But yet, men still do all of the hard labor that we as women take advantage of.

• 1:13:52Cameron Hanes?

  Right. Yeah.

• 1:13:54Speaker 01

  And we'd still treat them like garbage.

• 1:13:55Cameron Hanes?

  I know. Yeah, I, I, I get what you're saying there for sure. It's a, and I, I have no problem with a, a strong woman, a leader, uh, you know, but not at the expense of men.

• 1:14:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:09Cameron Hanes?

  You know what I mean? And so feminism, it seemed like, yes, I want to celebrate strong women. I, I love strong women. But that doesn't mean there can't be a strong man, too.

• 1:14:18Speaker 01

  We need strong men. We don't have strong men. We, we don't have a society. We don't have a country. We don't have families. We have nothing.

• 1:14:23Cameron Hanes?

  Right. And that's, that's what I say, that the blue, blue-collar, middle-class worker is a man.

• 1:14:29Speaker 01

  And those are the toughest

• 1:14:31Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:31Speaker 01

  of men's that I've ever met.

• 1:14:33Cameron Hanes?

  And, and those are the ones that are being sent to the front lines when we go to war. Those, you know.

• 1:14:37Speaker 01

  That upholds society.

• 1:14:38Cameron Hanes?

  And, and it's not

• 1:14:39Speaker 01

  That take care of our infrastructure.

• 1:14:40Cameron Hanes?

  That's not a knock on women. That's just, women are great at different things. You know, and, and some women can do what we talked about, not very many, but it's mostly men that do the, the work, the infrastructure work, as you mentioned, the military work.

• 1:14:55Speaker 01

  Hunters. I don't see a lot of female hunters.

• 1:14:58Cameron Hanes?

  There's a few out there.

• 1:14:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's a few, but the majority is men because it's tough. Yes, some women are built different, Cameron. But men, you guys are ready for war, are built for war, are built to take care of the family. We have different, different things that God assigned us to do, and that's the beauty.

• 1:15:14Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:14Speaker 01

  You think I want to go to war?

• 1:15:15Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:16Speaker 01

  You think I want to go hunt?

• 1:15:17Cameron Hanes?

  Do you think I want to sit with a baby all day?

• 1:15:20Speaker 01

  We like doing that. I love babies.

• 1:15:24Cameron Hanes?

  I want to go do shit. Women love nurturing. And that's okay. We're different.

• 1:15:28Speaker 01

  Feminism demonized family, demonized children, faith, and men.

• 1:15:34Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm. Yeah.

• 1:15:36Cameron Hanes?

  Well, it's hard to argue.

• 1:15:38Speaker 01

  And I don't see the feminists fighting for me, for being removed from GOP ballots.

• 1:15:41Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 1:15:42Speaker 01

  Or from being, uh, from being removed from GOP events.

• 1:15:46Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I don't see anybody, yeah, lobbying for you. What else you got?

• 1:15:52Speaker 04

  Um, as someone, there we go, as someone who, um, you know, took the correct way to gain citizenship into this country, do you think that there should be some, uh, alterations to that process? Or how should we go about, about gaining citizenship in the right way? Cause some people say, okay, well, we need to close the border, let less people through illegally, but we maybe need to change the system, um, for gaining citizenship. What are your opinions on that?

• 1:16:20Speaker 01

  I think we just need to make it harder. Because when I took my citizenship test, they just asked me two questions. Where does the president live? I thought they were, and they give you the answers, the hundred questions. I said sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC. He's like, no. Where does he live? Like the White House? What? Like, he's like, oh yeah, the White House. Now you have to write it. Like that's, those are the tests that they make you do when you become a citizen. And yes, they ask you, do you have any, any, do you believe in communism? Do you have any foreign terrorist ties? People are gonna lie.

• 1:16:52Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, obviously.

• 1:16:53Speaker 01

  Of course, of course. So we've made it way too easy. We've allowed a bunch of people in. We have to do even more mass deportations. We have to assess their record. Are they communists? Do they have terrorist ties? I think, I think we need to place a Muslim ban all across the nation. And we just need to start deporting the millions of people that came in through, under Biden.

• 1:17:16Cameron Hanes?

  Isn't that, wasn't that what ICE was doing? Wasn't that the intention of ICE?

• 1:17:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it's not enough.

• 1:17:22Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. Instead of sending boots in the ground in Iran, we need those guys here. And we need to start impeaching judges to stop that from happening.

• 1:17:30Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 1:17:31Speaker 01

  Because it's completely okay, we go to war or anything or any like that. But when we actually bring the National Guard into a city to bring order from all the chaos these people caused. Then a judge just sends a quick order and then it gets stopped.

• 1:17:44Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:44Speaker 01

  And absolutely nobody in Congress has impeached a single judge.

• 1:17:48Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm. Yeah, that's true.

• 1:17:50Speaker 01

  Even though they have the power to do so.

• 1:17:52Cameron Hanes?

  So there's no accountability for these poor decisions. Yeah, decisions that hurt communities.

• 1:17:57Speaker 01

  President Trump is trying to do a lot, but then a judge steps in, stops that work, and Congress doesn't do anything.

• 1:18:03Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm. Yeah.

• 1:18:05Speaker 01

  Even then they say, yeah, we support President Trump. We love him. We campaigned with him for president. It's all theater.

• 1:18:11Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, yeah. That, I mean, sometimes doesn't it feel like it's too far gone?

• 1:18:18Speaker 01

  If I was in Congress, I would be impeaching judges in every single state.

• 1:18:22Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, how do we have hope that we can fix it? That's what, like, that's what I say. It's like, sometimes it feels like it's too far gone. The system is too broke.

• 1:18:29Speaker 01

  Well, I'm trying, Cameron. I'm trying to do the impossible.

• 1:18:32Cameron Hanes?

  I applaud that.

• 1:18:33Speaker 01

  It's only impossible until I get it done.

• 1:18:35Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm.

• 1:18:36Speaker 01

  And we're gonna find out next week. If it's God's plan, it's God's plan for me to be a Congresswoman. It'll be fine.

• 1:18:42Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, no, I, I think you definitely have done a good job of being a lightning rod out there, making people feel something. So it's that. I think, you know, any of your detractors, it would just be that you're too, too outspoken. You're too, and it's like, if that's a flaw, I'd rather have that flaw than being.

• 1:19:02Speaker 01

  A crook.

• 1:19:02Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 1:19:03Speaker 01

  If I was, if I was a killer, if I was a rapist, you know, if I was some, like a drug addict or something like that, then they wouldn't say anything.

• 1:19:11Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, yeah, no.

• 1:19:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:13Cameron Hanes?

  What's that?

• 1:19:14Speaker 02

  George Floyd.

• 1:19:15Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:16Speaker 01

  George Floyd. I can't agree with the, I can't breathe while I can't vote.

• 1:19:19Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's crazy that they burned entire cities just for a criminal. For a dude that died from an overdose.

• 1:19:29Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm.

• 1:19:30Speaker 01

  And nobody went to prison for it either.

• 1:19:33Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I mean, that's, nobody's ever held accountable, but if we do something, if I don't.

• 1:19:38Speaker 01

  Straight to jail, Cameron.

• 1:19:39Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:39Speaker 01

  Do, step out of line, Cameron, and you're the first one.

• 1:19:42Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:43Speaker 01

  Getting a muckshut.

• 1:19:44Cameron Hanes?

  And I think that's what they they want to remind people of that. So they it's like a little reminder is like, okay, here's what happens. So whatever you're thinking, whatever you want to say, button it. And that that works. There's self censorship that stops people from sharing their true feelings. It's happening all the time right now because, you know, you can be deplatformed, but even like somebody with no following, they still like getting their hundred likes. So they know if they say something that's critical of, you know, the vaccine or like even their hundred likes is down to 20. Nobody likes that.

• 1:20:18Speaker 01

  I was the platform on Instagram and Facebook. But actually Elon Musk is the only one that kept me on because of Elon Musk. We have some sense of freedom of speech. And yes, it's not perfect, but but at least I get to say what I'm thinking.

• 1:20:33Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 1:20:34Speaker 01

  With Instagram, I had to threaten them with a lawsuit if they don't allow me back into into the site. Because my old account got wiped out.

• 1:20:40Cameron Hanes?

  Really?

• 1:20:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, all the accounts with hundreds of thousands of followers wiped out completely rebuilt. That's fine. You want to take me out again? I will sue you.

• 1:20:47Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:48Speaker 01

  Just like President Trump did. And I think he got $25 million.

• 1:20:52Cameron Hanes?

  Really?

• 1:20:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:20:53Cameron Hanes?

  Wow. Yeah, I mean, it's they they played the game for sure. Yeah. Anything else, James?

• 1:21:00Speaker 04

  This just kind of talking about ICE, but it made me think, you know, Republicans were supposed to. Most of us are supposed to believe in smaller government to let individuals handle their business on a state level. And I've seen some people, you know, on the Republican side, look at ICE and say, okay, well, they're trying to do a good thing. We're trying to deport people that shouldn't be here. But on the same side of that is government that could be overreaching, or is it a slippery slope? So do you believe that ICE should be more active? Or do you feel that there is some sort there on a federal level that the government is, you know, trying to impose where they shouldn't be?

• 1:21:41Speaker 01

  I love my ICE agents and we need more ICE agents across the nation. The thing is that these states, these blue states and sanctuary cities are creating a painful protesters. That's the reality of what's happening and they're creating all of this chaos while they were trying, but they're trying to do their jobs, you know, deporting the millions of people that they led under Biden.

• 1:22:04Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's a. Did you say paid to protest?

• 1:22:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:07Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, yeah, that's what I think too. It's like they're paying those people to be there. Um, definitely. Uh, what a mess. Yeah. I mean, how many, how many illegal immigrants did Biden let in? Wasn't like 10 million?

• 1:22:23Speaker 01

  Honestly, I would say about more than 20 million.

• 1:22:25Cameron Hanes?

  Really?

• 1:22:26Speaker 01

  Yes, more than 20 million and just in time for the census because those are congressional seats.

• 1:22:31Cameron Hanes?

  They're what?

• 1:22:31Speaker 01

  They're congressional seats.

• 1:22:33Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, gotcha. Yeah.

• 1:22:33Speaker 01

  Yes. So in 2028, we're going to have a census and all of those people are going to get counted. Because it doesn't matter if you're illegal or not. And also the democratic base needs their new people. Because black people are shifting away from the Democrats. They showed their true colors.

• 1:22:50Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:50Speaker 01

  These illegals replace the jobs of not just black people, but also normal citizens, you know?

• 1:22:56Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, yeah. So that was the intention of it. Now Trump's trying to get back, back to what it should be.

• 1:23:03Speaker 01

  Somewhat, yeah.

• 1:23:04Cameron Hanes?

  But yeah, yeah, it's a

• 1:23:06Speaker 01

  But it's very difficult to fight against 20 million people and all of these liberals that are trying to kill ICE agents.

• 1:23:11Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, nuts.

• 1:23:13Speaker 01

  And then all of this drama that happens when somebody gets killed because you, you're driving your vehicle into an, into an ICE agent. If you're driving a vehicle towards me, I'm going to pull out my gun and shoot you.

• 1:23:25Cameron Hanes?

  But meanwhile, that, you know, the blonde girl on the subway gets murdered.

• 1:23:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, arena.

• 1:23:32Cameron Hanes?

  No, yeah, no, no issue with that.

• 1:23:34Speaker 01

  Nothing.

• 1:23:34Cameron Hanes?

  That's what, I mean, it just doesn't even make sense.

• 1:23:37Speaker 01

  Because it doesn't fit the narrative.

• 1:23:39Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 1:23:39Speaker 01

  Doesn't fit their narrative.

• 1:23:40Cameron Hanes?

  Right, yeah.

• 1:23:41Speaker 01

  That's a problem.

• 1:23:42Cameron Hanes?

  Because that was a black, black guy that killed a white woman and

• 1:23:46Speaker 01

  That had multiple convictions, that had records and the same, the judge kept releasing him over and over again. And sadly, that judge is still in office, still in power.

• 1:23:57Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that's why it's like

• 1:23:59Speaker 01

  And even in, sorry, and even in Texas, there was a judge that released a violent criminal into the streets. And he ended up killing a police officer and this is, um, this happened about three, four weeks ago in Copper's Cove. He ended up killing an army officer and a US Army officer, veteran and 27 year old Elijah Garrettson. And he left one daughter behind because this Republican, this, this is a Republican judge that let a violent criminal out into the street. And my own Congressman John Carter never called for his impeachment, never called for his resignation.

• 1:24:31Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:31Speaker 01

  And when, when I questioned him, a bunch of police officers surrounded me.

• 1:24:36Cameron Hanes?

  Who, who'd you question?

• 1:24:37Speaker 01

  Congressman John Carter.

• 1:24:38Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 1:24:39Speaker 01

  When I questioned him, um, after, this was after, a bunch of police, police officers surrounded me. And I told them sadly, more of you are going to get killed because of Congressman John Carter. One of yours just got killed two weeks ago.

• 1:24:53Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that's terrible.

• 1:24:54Speaker 01

  And I'm trying to stop that.

• 1:24:55Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:55Speaker 01

  And you're over here telling me that I'm about to be arrested just for asking him two questions, just for exercising my First Amendment.

• 1:25:01Cameron Hanes?

  That's nuts. Yeah.

• 1:25:04Speaker 01

  And all they can do is just not, you know, because they can't answer.

• 1:25:08Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 1:25:08Speaker 01

  And they know, they know I'm right.

• 1:25:10Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 1:25:10Speaker 01

  They just can't say it because they're on camera.

• 1:25:12Cameron Hanes?

  No, I understand.

• 1:25:13Speaker 01

  And we're releasing that body cam footage too.

• 1:25:14Cameron Hanes?

  Are you?

• 1:25:14Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:25:15Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I like that you're putting pressure on people. I, I, I, I wish, I mean, I understand what you do. You, you put strong opinions out there and it makes, I, I mean, that's why you have a voice. So I get it. It's like, and Trump did that too. Trump, when he first started, he would, he would call people out and it wouldn't be politically correct. Right? And people love that. They're like, hey, he's, he's talking how he truly feels and you are too.

• 1:25:43Speaker 01

  He's the first one that did it.

• 1:25:44Cameron Hanes?

  He, he was the first one to did it. And I think as a woman, you're doing it, but you do get a little more leeway, I think. At, at least in my opinion, maybe not. You can tell me if it's true.

• 1:25:53Speaker 01

  You're right. No, you're right.

• 1:25:54Cameron Hanes?

  You get a little more leeway because you're a woman, you know, people don't go, go as hard, but like if. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, if you did tone the rhetoric down a little, would it be a bigger? Would you appeal to more or would you lose your authenticity?

• 1:26:11Speaker 01

  I think that ship.

• 1:26:12Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, that's the battle.

• 1:26:13Speaker 01

  I think that ship sold a long time ago, Cameron. I go all in on everything that I do.

• 1:26:19Cameron Hanes?

  I, cause I, I love, I love pretty much everything you're saying, but when, like, when you say, all dirty Muslims, you're gonna alienate people.

• 1:26:28Speaker 01

  Only the dirty ones are gonna get offended.

• 1:26:29Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, you're good.

• 1:26:30Speaker 01

  And if, and if you get offended, then I'm probably right, you know?

• 1:26:34Cameron Hanes?

  But you know, you, people who do hear that, they, some people, even if they're not the, the dirty.

• 1:26:39Speaker 01

  Sometimes you just gotta add the extra touch. That's the Valentina touch.

• 1:26:43Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. That's a Valentina slap across the face. What else you got, James?

• 1:26:51Speaker 04

  One more topic you guys have not talked about or touched on would be trans people.

• 1:26:58Speaker 01

  They're a ticking time bomb.

• 1:26:59Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:00Speaker 01

  You know, trans people, they used to be designated as mentally ill. In the old medical textbooks. Now, they're, they're great. They're mentally well and everything. Those are, those people are a ticking time bomb. Look at the Nashville school shooter, trans. The Aberdeen school shooter, trans. These are, these are people that should be held in mental, mental institutions. And now they're coming into women's locker rooms, women's spaces. They like to see little girls naked. And even at my own, uh, local gym, Crunch Fitness, there's a manager that dresses up as a, as a woman and it's a dude that goes into a locker room and like, this is not okay. What the hell are you doing?

• 1:27:44Cameron Hanes?

  I don't like that. I mean, I'm, I'm about individual expression. I'm fine with that, but I don't like that.

• 1:27:50Speaker 01

  If you're one of those, go into the men's locker rooms, you know, go. I'm sure you guys don't care. Like, this dude?

• 1:27:56Cameron Hanes?

  No.

• 1:27:56Speaker 01

  It's gone, it's gone. But I'd rather have him here than with the women.

• 1:28:00Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, for sure. I wanna protect the women. I wanna protect girls. I don't want men in there.

• 1:28:04Speaker 01

  And also men in women's sports.

• 1:28:06Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I, oh, that's, there, I hate that. I mean, who, who would agree or think that that's right in any way? I just don't get it. So, yeah, if we're gonna, how can you be a feminist and care about women and protect women? And then allow a man to beat a woman? I mean,

• 1:28:26Speaker 01

  That's what happened in the Olympics in the

• 1:28:28Cameron Hanes?

  In boxing, right?

• 1:28:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, in boxing.

• 1:28:30Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:30Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:28:31Cameron Hanes?

  And then they denied it the whole time, then finally just came out that

• 1:28:34Speaker 01

  That he's a dude, that he had a mic, he has a micro penis that, um, yeah. So basically it became legally okay to beat the living hell out of women and he got a gold medal out of it.

• 1:28:45Cameron Hanes?

  Terrible. Well, speaking of micro penises, what else you got, James?

• 1:28:55Speaker 04

  That is all I had.

• 1:29:00Speaker 02

  Reparations.

• 1:29:02Cameron Hanes?

  Reparations?

• 1:29:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:29:04Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:04Speaker 02

  Like, a lot of people wanted reparations.

• 1:29:08Speaker 02

  They're always asking for reparations. Why didn't they ask Kamala and Biden?

• 1:29:16Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 1:29:21Speaker 01

  Maybe not.

• 1:29:23Cameron Hanes?

  You can address, you can address that if you like.

• 1:29:25Speaker 01

  Well, reparations. I've never seen a black person, uh, in modern history, modern, right now, in today's world, being held as a slave. You know, you're asking white people to pay for something that they haven't done.

• 1:29:38Cameron Hanes?

  Right, yeah, I, yeah, I haven't

• 1:29:41Speaker 01

  And no nation is perfect.

• 1:29:42Cameron Hanes?

  No, for sure.

• 1:29:43Speaker 01

  Every nation has had its slaves.

• 1:29:46Cameron Hanes?

  Then, yeah, to

• 1:29:48Speaker 01

  America is the only nation in the world that you can become anything you want, as long as you work hard, as long as you don't make excuses, and you just keep your head down and keep doing your thing.

• 1:29:57Cameron Hanes?

  Right, yeah.

• 1:29:58Speaker 01

  Look at me, I started from the very bottom. No money, no English, nothing.

• 1:30:01Cameron Hanes?

  No, I, if, yeah, if anybody needs

• 1:30:03Speaker 01

  Where are my reparations?

• 1:30:05Cameron Hanes?

  If anybody needs an example of how to make it, you're it.

• 1:30:09Speaker 01

  And also Goggins.

• 1:30:10Cameron Hanes?

  You're doing it, yeah.

• 1:30:10Speaker 01

  Look at David Goggins, he didn't make any excuses.

• 1:30:12Cameron Hanes?

  No.

• 1:30:13Speaker 01

  He was a fat dude.

• 1:30:14Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:14Speaker 01

  And he said, "I'm a fat, I need to get better."

• 1:30:16Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:16Speaker 01

  He became a Navy SEAL.

• 1:30:17Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, he took ownership. I mean, all we can do is look ourselves in the mirror. So it's like, if we look ourselves in the mirror and ask, are we doing all we can?

• 1:30:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:27Cameron Hanes?

  Do it. I'm not relying on anybody else. Am I doing all I can? And your example of what that, what that can lead to, same with Goggins. And it's just like, people, yeah, I don't know, they want

• 1:30:38Speaker 01

  People make excuses.

• 1:30:39Cameron Hanes?

  They want, they want a crutch. They want a crutch for why, why they can't be successful. And it's like, and it's the reason why I like, you know, what all Jelly Roll's overcome, Goggins has overcome, what you've overcome.

• 1:30:50Speaker 01

  He's lost a lot of weight, too.

• 1:30:51Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. And it's just like, finally, when that happens is when you look yourself in the mirror and just like, no, my success is up to me and me only. And so, I mean, I applaud, I applaud your heart, your drive, your commitment. It's a, it's, it's amazing.

• 1:31:07Speaker 01

  You have to be hard to be number one.

• 1:31:09Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:10Speaker 01

  Cameron.

• 1:31:10Cameron Hanes?

  Definitely. I, I

• 1:31:11Speaker 01

  You can't appease everybody. It's impossible.

• 1:31:13Cameron Hanes?

  No, I understand that. It's a, yeah, I mean, I love, I love how much passion you have for, for what you're doing. And I want you, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I can't believe that guy is in office for 50 years that can't talk. I just, but that's just one example of, you know how many people are like that across our country? And, and I mean, probably couldn't even count. If, if we could see that, like your video shows, I think that is such a good visual. I'm like, this is what's going on. And when you talk about the money he's allocated, the taxpayers are burdened with, who would agree to that?

• 1:31:55Cameron Hanes?

  Who would think that, oh yeah, this is a system that makes, makes our country great?

• 1:31:59Speaker 01

  That's why they want to take me out.

• 1:32:01Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I mean, it's just

• 1:32:03Speaker 01

  But they can't because I'm too big. Too big to ignore. Like your book, Undeniable.

• 1:32:10Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I don't know. They, they did something with Charlie Kirk.

• 1:32:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:32:16Speaker 01

  And he changed the world.

• 1:32:17Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I mean, and sometimes I guess. Yeah, I mean, there's no guarantees. There's no guarantees on life.

• 1:32:24Speaker 01

  Tomorrow is not guaranteed, Cameron.

• 1:32:25Cameron Hanes?

  No, not at all.

• 1:32:26Speaker 01

  Not even the next hour. We don't know what's gonna happen.

• 1:32:28Cameron Hanes?

  No, and if, if, if Charlie's death leads to something positive and awareness. And, you know, he did have a huge impact. And if it, there's good that comes out of it, then I guess it was a worthy. You know, it was, I, I don't know. I mean, he, he made a difference.

• 1:32:44Speaker 01

  He built a greater organization.

• 1:32:45Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:46Speaker 01

  A great movement.

• 1:32:47Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's a, what a crazy time.

• 1:32:51Speaker 01

  Thirty-one years old, right?

• 1:32:52Cameron Hanes?

  I know, yeah. So young. So young. Well, do you have a, what else would you like to address before we go shoot a bow?

• 1:33:03Speaker 01

  You ready to teach me how to?

• 1:33:06Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I saw the video. We, we got some work to do, but I think.

• 1:33:09Speaker 01

  Okay, I'll teach you.

• 1:33:11Cameron Hanes?

  At the end, at the end of the day, you're gonna be shooting, you're gonna be.

• 1:33:14Speaker 01

  Oh, man, let's go. I'm excited.

• 1:33:16Cameron Hanes?

  I, I, believe me, you're gonna be, it's gonna be so awesome to learn, to teach you how to shoot a bow and to watch you learn.

• 1:33:22Speaker 01

  I'm usually great with my rifle.

• 1:33:24Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I'm, well, you're an athlete. You're gonna be, you're gonna be awesome. Well, Valentina, I'm, I'm so pumped you're here. Uh, thank you, you know, for this conversation. Um, I learned a lot about, you know, what you stand for and who you are. And, uh, yeah, I mean, it's just, it means a lot that you came all the way up here and, and I, as I said on here before. You know, I got, I got kind of criticized because I was, there was like, uh, I guess, what is he again? Cross dresser?

• 1:33:55Cameron Hanes?

  But anyway, what, what? Drag queen? Drag queen, yeah. And I just said like, hey, listen, I'll talk to anyone. I don't.

• 1:34:02Speaker 01

  Are we gonna be talking to a drag queen?

• 1:34:04Cameron Hanes?

  No, no, I would, I did this thing. It's like, I, I wasn't even talking to him really, but I did this. It was called Nature is Nonpartisan. It's this group talking about protecting public lands, essentially, you know, because, you know, they want to sell off all public lands to make money to probably send to Israel. But anyway, um. So I was fighting for that. And so it brings people who are opposites of each other together to talk about why they love the, our natural resources, public lands, um, why it's valuable. And so there was a, a trans or a.

• 1:34:37Speaker 01

  Cross dresser, cross dresser?

• 1:34:39Cameron Hanes?

  Well, drag queen.

• 1:34:40Speaker 01

  Drag queen.

• 1:34:41Cameron Hanes?

  And a conservative, uh, what's her name, Brett? Do you remember her? Yeah. She's a conservative. She was on Daily Wire.

• 1:34:54Cameron Hanes?

  Brett Cooper, yeah. So Brett Cooper talked to this cross dresser. Um, I talked to a liberal from LA. And so we were just talking about public lands and our connection to them and why we both feel they're important. And I just said, so I got criticized just because I showed a video of this drag queen, right? And I'm like, hey, listen, I'll talk to anybody. I'm not, I'm not too good to talk to somebody. I'm not gonna hate somebody because of how they dress or who they're. I want to find out what they're like. And I want to sit across the table from them and have a meaningful discussion. And I will do that with anyone. And so I'm just very thankful. We reached, we connected this last week and here you are. And it just means so much to me because I just wanna, I like to learn.

• 1:35:37Cameron Hanes?

  You know, what's important to others and, and maybe I can gain something from it. Maybe it'll affect my perspective.

• 1:35:42Speaker 01

  You want to know the person behind the name, you know?

• 1:35:46Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Oh, I know. I definitely do. I mean, so I see, I see the-

• 1:35:51Speaker 01

  And then with these drag queens, I've never seen, I don't care if you, if you dress up however you want to dress, you know? If you want to be gay, be gay all you want. Just keep it to yourself.

• 1:35:58Cameron Hanes?

  I don't care.

• 1:35:59Speaker 01

  Don't go into women's, um, into, uh, children's libraries.

• 1:36:02Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 1:36:03Speaker 01

  Open up your legs and do a story hour.

• 1:36:04Cameron Hanes?

  No, no, no.

• 1:36:05Speaker 01

  I've never seen a drag queen going into a senior assisted living facility.

• 1:36:08Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 1:36:09Speaker 01

  To tell stories.

• 1:36:10Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 1:36:10Speaker 01

  To seniors.

• 1:36:10Cameron Hanes?

  Yes.

• 1:36:11Speaker 01

  You know, they're always obsessed.

• 1:36:12Cameron Hanes?

  With kids.

• 1:36:12Speaker 01

  With kids.

• 1:36:13Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I under, I get that too. And, uh, yeah, I think we're on the same page there, but yeah, I, I don't really know what somebody's lacking until I can sit across, look in their eyes, talk to them, have a discussion, say things I agree with, I don't agree with, see how they respond. And so I'm very thankful that, that you're here and you took the time out and you flew all the way up here. And man, I just, I, like I said.

• 1:36:33Speaker 01

  Likewise, this has been a blessing.

• 1:36:35Cameron Hanes?

  I love your fire.

• 1:36:35Speaker 01

  This has been a blessing, Cameron.

• 1:36:36Cameron Hanes?

  Thank you very much.

• 1:36:37Speaker 01

  Thank you so much.

• 1:36:37Cameron Hanes?

  All right. Let's go shoot a bow.

• 1:36:39Speaker 01

  Let's do it.

• 1:36:43Cameron Hanes?

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• 1:37:26Cameron Hanes?

  and about building products here in the USA that actually perform in the field. That's why I trust this knife. If you want to check it out, head to montanaknifecompany.com. And right now, podcast listeners, get 10% off any knife with code CAM10. C-A-M-10. The Keep Hammering Pack Out: Built for the backcountry, built to work. We've got a limited, all-black Pack Out dropping January 8th. Quantities are tight, and they won't last. Get yours now. Hoyt began with a dream and a simple desire: create the best bow hunting and target archery equipment possible. And since 1931, that is exactly what they've been doing.

• 1:38:12Cameron Hanes?

  I'm skeptical every year that this year's bow will be better than last year's. Yet somehow, their engineers seem to figure it out. I think what sets them apart is their engineers are all avid hunters themselves, so they take their bows in the field every year with intent to make them stronger, faster, and more accurate. Hoyt is actually my lifetime bow sponsor. That is how much I believe in them, their products, and their drive to always be the best. Hoyt is giving listeners of this podcast 20% off products in their store with code CAM. Sorry, it doesn't work on bows, but it does work on accessories, including quivers, rests, and my favorite, the go-stick. That's code CAM at checkout at Hoyt.com.