Exposing the True Evils of the Uniparty: Soros Money, Surveillance, and the Rise of a Third Party

Ever notice how many Republican states have weirdly effeminate neocon governors? It’s an epidemic. Rebecca Bextel is trying to stop it in Wyoming. (00:00) Charlie Kirk Warned Us of This (02:51) Soros Money in Politics (07:51) The Republican Party Is Imploding (21:44) The Data Center and Flock Camera Takeover (25:41) Windmills and Solar Farms Rebecca has lived in Wyoming for over 20 years, raising a family and operating small businesses with her husband, Jonathan. Rebecca entered politics after watching outside consultants and political insiders take advantage of Wyoming. She served as a Republican precinct committeewoman, state committeewoman, and alternate delegate to the Republican National Convention in 2020 and 2024. Rebecca is running for Governor to defend limited government, responsible spending, energy independence, the Second Amendment, property rights, the sanctity of life, parental rights, and our Western way of life. Learn more here: https://www.rebeccaforwyoming.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:04Tucker Carlson?

  Becca, thank you for doing this.

• 0:05Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 0:06Tucker Carlson?

  So I'm interested in talking to you. I don't ever do segments like this, but because I've seen this thing happen across the country, but particularly in the West, where you have states that are overwhelmingly Republican that wind up becoming nothing at all like what Republican voters would like their state to become. And then over time, it just be you, you wind up Colorado.

• 0:25Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 0:26Tucker Carlson?

  That when I was a kid was like one of the most conservative states in the nation. And now it's like, it's unrecognizable and not a better place. Wyoming is the smallest state in the country. It's the most Republican state in the country. It somehow had Liz Cheney. She got bounced out famously. But my sense is that the same thing is happening to Wyoming of all places. You're running for governor. You're a lifelong Republican, but you're not running as a Republican. You're running against the Republican. Why are you doing that?

• 0:55Speaker 01

  So in 2020, Charlie Kirk was in Gillette, Wyoming. And he said very famously now that in six years Wyoming will be blue because the Democrats will have infiltrated the Republican Party.

• 1:07Tucker Carlson?

  He said that?

• 1:08Speaker 01

  He actually said that. Yeah, you can see it. I'll show you the tape. Yeah, that really happened. I can show it. Do you want to show it to you right now?

• 1:13Tucker Carlson?

  No, but I'm gonna look it up. That's pathetic.

• 1:15Speaker 01

  I've got it on my phone. And so what happens is the Democrats, they really have no say in Wyoming politics. So they all switch over to the Republican Party. We always have conservatives that split the election for the primary. And then we end up with the Democrat candidate. And that is exactly what's happening right now. Our candidate for the Republican Party won't even sign the platform pledge to say that they'll stick with the party 80% of the time. This guy is so radical, he voted, he actually testified in front of Congress one time and said, we needed to remove our dependence on fossil fuels in favor of a renewable energy model. So can you imagine a guy like that being in charge of Wyoming where our bread and butter is the mineral industry and the energy sector?

• 2:00Tucker Carlson?

  Wait, yeah. It's Wyoming. It's got one of the biggest coal deposits in the world, oil and gas. And he, and he's from Wyoming. What's his name?

• 2:09Speaker 01

  His name is Eric Barlow, and he likes to run around with a cowboy hat and talk about how he's a rancher and a veterinarian. And I think those things are true. He, on the campaign trail, he talks about what he's gonna do for Wyoming, hoping that we don't know what he's done. And so I'm running against his 14 year voting record.

• 2:27Tucker Carlson?

  So he's served in the state legislature?

• 2:28Speaker 01

  Yes. And so we know exactly what we're gonna get.

• 2:30Tucker Carlson?

  So the Wyoming Republican is against?

• 2:34Speaker 01

  Fossil fuels. That's right. It's crazy.

• 2:38Tucker Carlson?

  Okay.

• 2:38Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:39Tucker Carlson?

  So how, okay. How does this, do you have any idea how this happens? I don't. So it's kind of a trick question. I don't know the answer, but maybe you do?

• 2:47Speaker 01

  Well, the demo, he's funded by the Democrats, the darks, George Soros funded money. I mean, that has trickled its way into Wyoming, where a very cheap state to buy politically.

• 2:57Tucker Carlson?

  Yes.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  So you know, if you look at someone like Vivek Ramaswamy, running $100 million governor run, I, I'll be lucky if I raise a million bucks. But I, that's what I'm taking on is.

• 3:09Tucker Carlson?

  Total?

• 3:10Speaker 01

  Yes. I'm gonna, I'm gonna be your next governor with raising less than a million dollars.

• 3:15Tucker Carlson?

  So that means that someone could roll in. I mean, people are spending $100 million. I think Elon spent 100 just in Texas-ish, maybe more. So people are willing to spend a lot of money on races, but the governor's race in Wyoming can be won for a million dollars.

• 3:29Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 3:30Tucker Carlson?

  Why wouldn't it be vulnerable to people coming in and just installing someone?

• 3:34Speaker 01

  Well, we constantly have governors that don't reflect the will of the people, like you just said. Wyoming is absolutely overwhelmingly Republican. Our Republican platform will fit on one single sheet of paper. It's just 23 planks, the right to life, liberty, God is our creator. The, the people in charge derive their power from the consent of the governed, things like that.

• 3:55Tucker Carlson?

  Yes.

• 3:55Speaker 01

  Okay, very basic right to life. So how do we end up with governors that don't reflect the will of the people is the conservatives split the vote and then big money comes in and takes it away. And that's what I'm up against right now.

• 4:07Tucker Carlson?

  That is totally fascinating. Okay, well, thank you for actually answering the question.

• 4:12Speaker 01

  You're welcome.

• 4:12Tucker Carlson?

  Because you do sort of wonder like all these states, and a lot of them about to lose, by the way, in Kansas, in Nebraska, the Dakotas, all these places have not simply Republican populations, but very conservative, socially conservative, culturally conservative populations. And they end up being governed by someone who's in the pocket of like developers and green energy billionaires and just like the worst human beings on the planet.

• 4:38Speaker 01

  They are. And one of my, one of the things that I want to get done when I'm governor is to get rid of property tax. We have people all around the state struggling to pay their property tax.

• 4:48Tucker Carlson?

  Yes.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  It's an unrealized gain. Well, my opponent is very.

• 4:52Tucker Carlson?

  Can you explain what that means?

• 4:53Speaker 01

  So if you bought a stock for a dollar and it's now worth $100, you don't have to pay taxes on the worth of $100. But I'll give you an example.

• 5:02Tucker Carlson?

  Until you sell it.

• 5:02Speaker 01

  Until you sell it. Correct. It's until you realize the gain.

• 5:05Tucker Carlson?

  Right.

• 5:05Speaker 01

  And so, for example, there's a.

• 5:07Tucker Carlson?

  Because how would you pay it? You don't, maybe you don't have the cash to pay it, right?

• 5:11Speaker 01

  Right. In Jackson, there's a woman, she's 94 years old. She's been working since she's six. She bought her house for $40,000 in 1960. It happens to be sitting on a double lot in Jackson now, and it's falling down all around her, but it's worth four and a half million dollars. So her social security income is $12,704 a year, and her property tax is $19,000. And so she, she's working. She had to go get a job. She answers the phones at an acupuncture place.

• 5:40Tucker Carlson?

  At 94.

• 5:41Speaker 01

  At 94 years old, she's still working.

• 5:43Tucker Carlson?

  And so the way property tax works is you don't have to sell the house to pay the tax. So they just, someone comes by your house and says, oh, this house is worth a lot more than you paid for it. Therefore, you have to pay the tax on the difference. Who thought up that system?

• 5:59Speaker 01

  I'm, you know, it's a corrupt system. You're basically renting your house. But the beauty of property tax, Tucker, is if, let's say the town of Jackson got a million dollars from the state to put in a new water tank or something, that money's earmarked. The thing about property tax is it's a free for all for the politicians. They get to spend it on whatever they want to spend. So in the town of Rock Springs, property tax goes to buy a golf club membership for the mayor. In Teton County.

• 6:26Tucker Carlson?

  Come on.

• 6:26Speaker 01

  No, I'm serious. In Teton County, we have the first, last in deposit program where we're literally paying the rent for illegal aliens. You don't have to be here legally to qualify for the program. We're paying for someone to stock tampons in all the men's restaurants in the town of Jackson with our property tax. So those kinds of things don't work for me.

• 6:45Tucker Carlson?

  You have tampons in the men's room?

• 6:46Speaker 01

  That's right. We do.

• 6:48Tucker Carlson?

  But no one has to restock them, I assume, because nobody uses them.

• 6:52Speaker 01

  Well.

• 6:54Tucker Carlson?

  I mean, what?

• 6:56Speaker 01

  You would think. That's a good point. There's some confused individuals in Teton County.

• 7:01Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah. So how many counties in Wyoming?

• 7:04Speaker 01

  23.

• 7:05Tucker Carlson?

  23 counties. And Jackson is the, or Teton County is the 22nd, and it's the one that doesn't look like any other counties, and it doesn't vote like any of the other counties.

• 7:13Speaker 01

  But guess who, guess what we did do in Teton County? We elected my opponent. So we have a foaming at the mouth liberal Democrat named Liz Store in, in Teton County, as radical as you can imagine. Now, she's been married twice, but she said the best night of her life was the night that Eric Barlow won the Republican nomination because she had spent years getting rid of the right. So the best night of her life is when my opponent won the Republican nomination. He's not a Republican. And so I'm running to basically save us from turning into the state of Colorado. If I lose this election, we will be Colorado in four years.

• 7:51Tucker Carlson?

  It's funny though, I bet you a lot of Republican voters in Wyoming, which to restate is the most Republican of the 50 states.

• 7:57Speaker 01

  The people living there.

• 7:58Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Not the people having lunch at the Four Seasons in Jackson during ski season, but like the people who live in Wyoming, most of which looks nothing like Teton County, as you know. And they're genuinely conservative. They just vote for the Republican because that's who you vote for.

• 8:14Speaker 01

  They.

• 8:14Tucker Carlson?

  They don't know.

• 8:15Speaker 01

  That's what I'm up against is, is begging people, please don't vote for the R. The Republican Party has imploded. It's not just imploded nationally, it's imploded in Wyoming. We don't have any leadership. People would prefer the values of the Republican Party, but there's no litmus test, Tucker, to just put an R by your name.

• 8:33Tucker Carlson?

  Yes.

• 8:34Speaker 01

  We have tons of people, like right in Teton County, a guy will run as a Democrat for county commissioner, lose, run again as a Democrat, lose, then go do something different, put an R by his name, lose, and then join the board of the Teton County Republican Party. It doesn't make any sense. And so we have to start looking at, we need to put the person above the party. And that's what I'm asking everyone to do in Wyoming. Please vote for me. I'm there to represent the people. I share your values. I believe in all 23 planks of the Republican platform. I'd sign that pledge right now. Now, I'm running as a Constitution Party candidate, and those three planks are life, liberty, and private property rights. I, I agree with that too.

• 9:15Speaker 01

  But we, we formally had two choices, Democrat or Republican. And one third of the Republicans are Democrat. So once we split the vote with the two conservatives running, then the Democrats select our candidate, and then they start screaming party unity.

• 9:30Tucker Carlson?

  Well, you probably have heard that diesel prices have gotten so high that G7 nations had to release fuel from strategic reserves to get costs under control. And still, some pumps are readjusting so they can get to $10 per gallon.

• 9:44Tucker Carlson?

  Governments across the world are trying to keep costs down, but they are running out of options because they're running out of money. The world is unstable. That is the sad truth, and people in charge cannot control even the most basic questions like what does energy cost anymore? The war in Iran is raging. It's not coming to an end soon. Neither is the war in Ukraine. So could we get a big recession soon? Yeah, of course we could. So it's smart to think ahead now and imagine how you can take matters into your own hands to protect your savings and your family. And that's why smart investors everywhere, very much including central banks around the world, and very much including China, are stocking up on gold, physical gold, right now. Gold is not just a store of value for all of human history.

• 10:29Tucker Carlson?

  It's also proven to be a strong investment. It's outperformed the S and P 500 since nine 11. Over the past 25 years, gold has outperformed the standard and poor's average. Gold is down from its historic high earlier this year, more than a thousand bucks, but major institutions predict the spot price will hit another high by Q2 of next year, 2027. So if you're thinking about buying gold, right now is the time to buy, and people are buying. We founded Battalion Metals to give you a chance to buy fairly priced gold. This is not a scam. Our margins are small, 3%, but the point is we're not ripping anybody off, unlike a lot of places you buy gold, because we actually believe in gold and we use this service ourselves.

• 11:12Tucker Carlson?

  Protect your savings and fortify your future. Explore our collection at battalionmetals.com/tucker, battalionmetals.com/tucker. It's happened in Utah. It's exactly what happened in Utah. It's, I don't, I don't see this happening to Democrats. You never see a Democrat elected governor and then, you know, on inauguration day, he's like, surprise, I'm right wing.

• 11:34Speaker 01

  It's unbelievable.

• 11:37Tucker Carlson?

  It is unbelievable. When you let Carrie Healey, it's like she's what you thought she was. She hates you, just like you thought she did.

• 11:44Speaker 01

  Well, the Republicans do tons of things that don't make any sense. I'll give you an example. So like you said, overwhelmingly, our state is Republican. So we have the County Commissioners Association, okay? And there's only a few Democrats and overwhelmingly Republicans. Well, guess who's the president of the County Commissioners Association? A Democrat from Teton County. They say she's good at paperwork. Okay. In what scenario would the Democrats, if there's 60 Democrats and four Republicans, in what scenario would the Democrats put the leader as a Republican? It just, we keep shooting ourself in the foot. It doesn't make any sense.

• 12:18Tucker Carlson?

  Because they don't mean it.

• 12:19Speaker 01

  That's what I've decided.

• 12:20Tucker Carlson?

  And the Democrats mean it a lot more than you think they do. They are not kidding at all, and there's malice in their hearts.

• 12:25Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 12:26Tucker Carlson?

  But lost in all of this is like the idea of democracy, which is very simply the people rule. They govern through their representatives and they should kind of get some version of what they voted for, what they want. Shouldn't they get what they want over time? Isn't it their state, their country?

• 12:41Speaker 01

  Well, and that's one of the reasons I got involved in politics, was trying to save our Teton County fairgrounds. I realized that these developers and out of state people were literally trying to redesign our county, and I fought for five years to stop a development from taking over the fairgrounds. They ended up with 10% of it, but I'm never giving up on that.

• 13:00Tucker Carlson?

  So just for people who don't know, so Teton County is in the northwestern part of the state of Wyoming.

• 13:08Speaker 01

  It's the bottom of Yellowstone.

• 13:09Tucker Carlson?

  Bottom of Yellowstone, exactly, right on the Idaho border. And it's the one place a lot of people who've never been to Wyoming may have been because of Yellowstone and the Jackson Hole Ski Resort and all that, and the cowboy culture of it and the square and all the cool stuff. Exactly. And if they visited Jackson, they may have been to the world famous Jackson Rodeo, which still exists, and it's at those fairgrounds you're referring to.

• 13:32Speaker 01

  Well, it still exists as of this year. They won't actually renew the concessionaire contract. So this is the last year for the, for the rodeo to have a contract.

• 13:42Tucker Carlson?

  What?

• 13:43Speaker 01

  They say that they're going to renegotiate or, or look into it. What I'm telling you is there is no longer a Jackson Hole rodeo as of now. The last rodeo was over Labor Day weekend.

• 13:53Tucker Carlson?

  I did, well, that's kind of shocking.

• 13:57Speaker 01

  There's a lot of people that would rather see that turn into housing.

• 13:59Tucker Carlson?

  Affordable housing for people.

• 14:01Speaker 01

  And it's not really affordable, Tucker. If you actually read the contracts, as I have done, you can move into low income housing with $475,000 in assets.

• 14:10Tucker Carlson?

  Really?

• 14:11Speaker 01

  You can have a house in another place. Yeah.

• 14:14Tucker Carlson?

  So you can move into affordable housing as your second home?

• 14:16Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 14:17Tucker Carlson?

  In Jackson?

• 14:19Speaker 01

  I'm not, I'm not making this up.

• 14:20Tucker Carlson?

  The most expensive real estate market outside Palm Beach.

• 14:23Speaker 01

  That's right. Anybody outside, as long as your house is not within 99 miles of Jackson Hole, in other words, anybody clear, clear past Smoot, Wyoming qualifies for affordable housing.

• 14:34Tucker Carlson?

  By the way, in case people watching aren't familiar with geography, nothing is within 99 miles of Jackson Hole. There's nothing there. There's, I don't think there's a Walmart within, right? So it's like, okay. So that's crazy. So have people with second homes moved into affordable housing?

• 14:50Speaker 01

  Absolutely, yes. I actually discovered, so we built this housing complex. It's called the Flat Creek Apartments, and I documented, so we were in such a housing shortage, such a housing collapse, that the, the housing director testified to the state land and investment board that there were 700 people on a waitlist, okay? And once I got this public record request, I realized that just to fill up the building, it took seven months, and we were literally importing people from other states. A man collecting unemployment.

• 15:20Tucker Carlson?

  Come on.

• 15:21Speaker 01

  No, a man collecting unemployment in Lake Tahoe, California, moved in to low income housing in Jackson Hole with $200,390 in his bank account. He showed up at my office one day and said, I keep hearing you talk about me, so I thought I'd introduce myself. I said, how did you have?

• 15:35Tucker Carlson?

  Was he embarrassed?

• 15:36Speaker 01

  Um, it was amazing how he was not embarrassed. I would be.

• 15:40Tucker Carlson?

  This is publicly subsidized housing.

• 15:42Speaker 01

  And we've spent, yeah, we, we, the developers put $100 into the project, fully taxpayer funded, free 99 year lease on the fairgrounds. The building itself is owned by Redstone Equity out of Ohio. They were not paying any property tax until I said, I will see you in court.

• 15:58Tucker Carlson?

  Okay, can we just, you've got five minutes. I want to hear the details of this. So, okay, because I think a lot of people hear the term affordable housing and they're like, there's a homeless family on the sidewalk on Christmas Eve, weeping children, father just laid off at the local foundry. They have no home and they need a place to live, and that's what affordable housing is here to solve, right?

• 16:18Speaker 01

  That's not, that's not what happens.

• 16:20Tucker Carlson?

  Okay, I'm getting the sense. So your affordable housing, which is built on the rodeo grounds, the ancient Jackson rodeo, which is like the most wholesome thing that's ever happened in Teton County. This affordable housing was built by who and who paid for it?

• 16:38Speaker 01

  Okay, so it's a $24 million project. There was $4 million missing dollars. I had to pay $1,250 for a public record request, and I was able to find $1 million, which is what the developers paid themselves to build the project. So the developers paid themselves a million. The loans are literally guaranteed by the public. That's what it says. The public has guaranteed the loans. We, it's fully taxpayer funded project, or it's paid off in rent rolls. So we put all the millions in to get the project off the ground. That's all public dollars. And then eventually the rent rolls start kicking in to pay off the building. Depending on which building, I've identified these buildings all over Wyoming, and they're everywhere in America. It's called the Low Income Housing Tax Credit Program.

• 17:21Speaker 01

  So a housing, in our case, it's the Wyoming Community Development Authority. They have total discretion in passing out millions of dollars to a certain recipient. I also found where the federal program's coordinator is now the federal program's recipient, okay? So the guy who used to be in charge of passing out the money, he now is the recipient of the program, and they pay.

• 17:42Tucker Carlson?

  Which is more profitable for him, do you think?

• 17:44Speaker 01

  I don't know what, I don't know how he got in that, that position. But they, these buildings are all over, because it has a cute little sign that says Teton County Housing Authority outside, or Casper Housing Authority. No one until I came along ever questioned who actually owns the building. And I've showed where these buildings are all over Wyoming, they don't pay any property tax.

• 18:04Tucker Carlson?

  And they're owned by whom?

• 18:05Speaker 01

  Well, I identified four buildings in Nitrana County, which is Casper, that two of them are owned by the Japanese, literally, oryx. The Japanese equity firm owns two of those buildings, and the other two are owned by East Coast equity firms, paying no property tax. But now we're told that.

• 18:21Tucker Carlson?

  Wait, how does a private equity firm on the East Coast wind up with public housing in Jackson paid for by taxpayers?

• 18:27Speaker 01

  Um, that's the scam. So I'm suing the town of Jackson right now over $3 million missing dollars. If you can believe this, um.

• 18:36Tucker Carlson?

  But why would Jackson taxpayers pay for an asset owned by a private equity firm on the East Coast?

• 18:42Speaker 01

  Why would we give them a free 99 year lease on our fairgrounds? I don't know. I don't know the answer. It's corruption.

• 18:48Tucker Carlson?

  Well, that's just like next level corruption.

• 18:50Speaker 01

  It is next level corruption. It's, I think it's bigger than the Minnesota scam. Tucker, these buildings are all over America. Just look at the Low Income Housing Tax Credit Program.

• 18:59Tucker Carlson?

  But I always assume, because I'm not that smart, that if a town, a city, a municipality, a state government even, builds something, it owns it because it took taxpayer money to build it, why would it give it to some private entity for free?

• 19:15Speaker 01

  It doesn't make any sense. Um, I've testified in front of our legislator about it. I've identified, I've walked, so we have a Department of Revenue with 100 employees. Now, the Department of Audit has seven people looking at where the checks went, right? But 100 people looking for revenue. I've said, hey, these buildings are owned by the Japanese or East Coast equity firms. They're not paying any property tax. They're generating millions of dollars in revenue. Um, there's a building called Ravenscrest Apartment. It was $21 million to build in Casper, seven acres, 100 units, not paying a penny in property tax, okay? But that's one of the things I'm up against running for governor. I'm going up against an old boys' club. I thought it was very simple. I'm showing you where there's revenue that hasn't been collected.

• 20:00Speaker 01

  These people aren't voters in Wyoming. It seemed cut and dry to me. Hey, let's charge them property tax.

• 20:04Tucker Carlson?

  Do you pay property taxes?

• 20:05Speaker 01

  I do.

• 20:06Tucker Carlson?

  Oh, would it be better for you to be a private equity firm in New York?

• 20:09Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 20:10Tucker Carlson?

  Because then you wouldn't have to pay income taxes, because you could take your income and pretend it was interest.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 20:15Tucker Carlson?

  Through the carried interest loophole and just pay half the tax.

• 20:17Speaker 01

  That's right. So if, if your wife died and you got cancer, you'd have to pay, but the Japanese aren't paying. It doesn't make any sense. And so when I'm elected governor, those are the things I'm going up against.

• 20:29Tucker Carlson?

  So the Republican, the fiscally conservative, small government Republican, is he worried about this?

• 20:35Speaker 01

  I don't know. There are so many problems in Wyoming that I don't even know where to begin. But I will say this, I'm showing up with a baseball bat and I'm gonna be swinging for the people of Wyoming.

• 20:44Tucker Carlson?

  I think I believe you. Have you run for office before?

• 20:49Speaker 01

  I ran to be the chair of the Republican Party two years ago. They picked off six people at the end. So my siblings were in the room and someone walked up and said, what is happening to your sister right now is so corrupt. But they were setting, they were setting this up to take me out, take out the conservatives, take out the grassroots. If you don't mind me saying so, I was just endorsed. So I used to be the revenue chair for the Wyoming Republican Party. And a guy named Frank Ethan ran the party for eight years. He literally worked tirelessly to get us back to the grassroots. He just came out and endorsed me as the Constitution Party because the person running as a Republican is a Democrat. So that's how bad it is.

• 21:30Speaker 01

  So we've got a Democrat running as a Republican. So now we have a Republican running as a Constitution Party. But the one thing I know is, the Republican Party is not doing anything for the people of Wyoming. We have to put the person over the political party.

• 21:44Tucker Carlson?

  So that's a big claim. So I'm gonna test it. Do you mind if I just test it really quick? Okay, so you're saying that the Republican Party, which is the dom, it's a one party state, basically. And it's run by the Republican Party and has been forever, I think?

• 21:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think so.

• 21:56Tucker Carlson?

  Since the earth cooled? Certainly since the glaciers receded, okay? It's just been a Republican state. The one thing that everybody in Wyoming hates, because everyone in the world hates, are data centers. Nobody's for data centers.

• 22:07Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 22:08Tucker Carlson?

  Unless you're the guy from Shark Tank who's gonna get rich on them, you're not for data centers.

• 22:11Speaker 01

  Right.

• 22:11Tucker Carlson?

  So it's really simple question. Where's your opponent on data centers?

• 22:14Speaker 01

  Well, the owner of the data center company in Wyoming goes after me on Facebook all the time. My opponent is for whatever he can do to get paid off. I hate to say that. But he, he's not necessarily for against anything. He's for whatever's gonna get him elected. Does that make sense?

• 22:29Tucker Carlson?

  As he said, I'm not, because the last thing Wyoming needs is a data center. You don't have enough water already.

• 22:33Speaker 01

  That's right. That's right.

• 22:34Tucker Carlson?

  So, but why would you, who wants data centers?

• 22:39Speaker 01

  My opponent. He says they're already here.

• 22:41Tucker Carlson?

  Oh, they're already here?

• 22:43Speaker 01

  Right.

• 22:43Tucker Carlson?

  Oh, okay. So that's the new rule of something's already here? That's like saying, well, we've got a lot of carjackings, but we already have them. So like, don't, don't worry.

• 22:52Speaker 01

  Well, we had a flock camera come down in my neighborhood in Jackson and the cops came and said, hey, do you know anything about this? And I said, I don't, but I wish I did.

• 23:00Tucker Carlson?

  Come down?

• 23:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, they, somebody took one down. And they said, you know who took this down? And I said, I don't, but I wish I had.

• 23:08Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah.

• 23:09Speaker 01

  It should have been me. When I'm governor, on day one, I'm signing an executive order against warrantless mass surveillance in the form of flock cameras. They tell us now that they're reading your license plate. Next, they'll be reading our faces.

• 23:21Tucker Carlson?

  Well, I think they already are reading our faces. But can I ask, why would, I know the neighborhood that you live in in Jackson. I don't think there's a lot of violent crime in your neighborhood. Like about roughly about zero, okay?

• 23:30Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 23:31Tucker Carlson?

  I've never been a violent crime in your neighborhood. So why would you have a flock camera in your neighborhood?

• 23:34Speaker 01

  That's what the deep state wants.

• 23:35Tucker Carlson?

  No, but for real, like what, did you vote for a flock camera?

• 23:38Speaker 01

  No, and they're gonna be gone when I'm governor. But, um,

• 23:42Tucker Carlson?

  What's your opponent say about that?

• 23:43Speaker 01

  He doesn't say anything. I don't think that he did the polling on what the public wants on flock cameras. So he won't be able to comment.

• 23:49Tucker Carlson?

  So the Republican Party of Wyoming is not leading the charge against data centers or flock cameras?

• 23:53Speaker 01

  Correct. It's, it's completely worthless. The Republican Party in Wyoming is worthless. Now, there's a lot of good people within the Republican Party, and they are opening their eyes to what's going on. If I had not run as a third party candidate, my opponent would just be sailing into the governor's office again. He was just endorsed by the current governor. And let me tell you about him. So people around Wyoming struggling to put food on the table. Okay, people really are struggling. And the governor of Wyoming hired a private chef to prepare all the meals at the governor's mansion. I promise you, Wyoming,

• 24:28Tucker Carlson?

  Did he pay for that?

• 24:29Speaker 01

  No, this is tax dollars. I promise you, Wyoming, you're not gonna be paying someone to cook my meals when I'm governor. If I'm short on time, I'll pick up dinner at the gas station.

• 24:37Tucker Carlson?

  Well, 100%. And you've got great gas station food there, I will say. You do.

• 24:40Speaker 01

  Yes. I eat some beef jerky.

• 24:42Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah, excellent beef jerky. So, but can I ask, how did the governor get away with that?

• 24:47Speaker 01

  It's amazing what these politicians in Wyoming do.

• 24:53Tucker Carlson?

  Who is the governor?

• 24:53Speaker 01

  Governor Gordon. He's a, he's a Democrat. Can you believe that? He's a Democrat. So the, I'm running because I care about Wyoming. If I, when I win this election, this will be the first time we've ever had a governor that actually fights for the people. Wyoming, my intentions could not be more sincere. I am fighting for us. I'm fighting to save us from becoming Colorado. My opponent voted eight times in six years to expand Wyoming Medicaid to 55,000 able-bodied adults that don't even have children. He voted for taxpayer-funded benefits for illegal aliens. He, he loves a green energy scam, wind farms, solar farms. When I was mopping the floor with him the other night at a PBS debate, where I debate

• 25:38Speaker 01

  the moderator and my opponent, someone asked him about wind energy. He said, well, there'll be less when he's governor. Well, that's not what his 14-year voting record shows. This guy's a career politician that has enriched himself and his buddies through policies in Cheyenne. And when I'm governor, that's all going to end.

• 25:55Tucker Carlson?

  Do you have more energy per capita in Wyoming than any state in the Union? You know, as a, per population?

• 26:01Speaker 01

  Right.

• 26:02Tucker Carlson?

  So like, what? Why windmills?

• 26:05Speaker 01

  He, he loves windmills and solar farms. Yeah. He, he loves the scams. We have something called the Wyoming Business Council. And I'll, I'll just explain that to you. That's where Wyoming gives some unelected bureaucrats our money to pass out in the form of economic development. Now, since 1998, we've given them $1.5 billion of our money to pass out to us for economic development. This is where the government picks the winners and losers. And Wyoming has done increasingly worse after we've given 1.5 billion to economic development. We have the worst GDP of all 50 states. We can't afford four more years of Eric Barlow and his policies.

• 26:43Tucker Carlson?

  So who supports him, other than the Democrats?

• 26:47Speaker 01

  The Democrat, it's the, the conservatives with the vote. And so the Democrats literally helped him get in there. And then, you know, we have to remember, Tucker, Republicans like free stuff, too.

• 26:56Tucker Carlson?

  Oh, especially.

• 26:57Speaker 01

  And so we've got a lot of that going on in Wyoming. We have entire politicians who did nothing but enrich themselves while in office. And I'm there to bust that up.

• 27:06Tucker Carlson?

  What do you think, so Wyoming is a, is a state of small towns, a lot of small towns still in Wyoming?

• 27:13Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 27:13Tucker Carlson?

  And relatively few cities. What do you think the Republican leadership, state leadership thinks of its own voters? Like just the conservative who lives outside Cody? Like, what do you think they think of them?

• 27:26Speaker 01

  I don't think they think very much of them. They don't, they have not lifted a finger to help us get rid of Eric Barlow. So that's the thing, that Eric Barlow has an R by his name, but by any stretch of the word, he's a Democrat. So you would think that the Republican Party would be coming out in full force. Hey, wait a minute, this guy's a Democrat. Instead, they're just silent.

• 27:46Tucker Carlson?

  Did he get the Trump endorsement?

• 27:49Speaker 01

  The Trump endorsement candidate lost.

• 27:51Tucker Carlson?

  Oh.

• 27:52Speaker 01

  In the primary. So isn't that amazing? So we have a candidate who, who, but a lot of our politicians have called Eric Barlow pure evil. Literally from the top, they've said, this guy's pure evil. Well, now that he won the Republican primary, we're supposed to get behind him now? You just told us he was pure evil. So I thought we'd have to get rid of him. That's why I'm running the Constitution Party. I could see this coming from a mile away. This is our chance to save Wyoming. We're gonna say enough is enough. We're not having any more Republicans in office that just simply have an R by their name.

• 28:21Tucker Carlson?

  I mean, the, one of the reasons I was so interested in talking to you, other than, I think you come from a beautiful place that is being mismanaged, obviously.

• 28:28Speaker 01

  Obviously.

• 28:29Tucker Carlson?

  I didn't realize you were giving free rent to private equity firms in Japan, but that's pretty crazy. Putting tampons in the men's room. But I knew it was not great.

• 28:37Speaker 01

  Right.

• 28:38Tucker Carlson?

  Um, but I just think that this is happening across the country, where you have Democrats who do pretty much what they say they're gonna do. They represent their constituencies pretty faithfully. And you have Republicans who clearly hate their own voters.

• 28:52Speaker 01

  Right.

• 28:52Tucker Carlson?

  Make no effort to represent their own voters, have contempt for them, and lie to them, and then do the opposite, once they get elected.

• 29:00Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 29:01Tucker Carlson?

  And there's no option, like, okay, who do you vote for? You're not gonna vote for AOC. There's no, there's literally no options. You vote for Eric Barlow or whomever.

• 29:09Speaker 01

  Right.

• 29:10Tucker Carlson?

  Lindsey Graham.

• 29:10Speaker 01

  Right. You, you have your choice previously between a Democrat or Republican, but the Republican is a Democrat. And that's why I came along. And that's why I'm running on the Constitution Party ticket.

• 29:21Tucker Carlson?

  Has anyone ever succeeded doing this?

• 29:22Speaker 01

  No, not yet.

• 29:23Tucker Carlson?

  No, anywhere. I don't think anyone's ever succeeded doing this.

• 29:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. Put me in, Coach. I'm ready.

• 29:31Tucker Carlson?

  Wow. What, I mean, why did you want to do this?

• 29:35Speaker 01

  I didn't. I couldn't find anybody willing to do it. My whole plan was to find somebody that was willing to do this.

• 29:41Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah, that, that's the best plan.

• 29:42Speaker 01

  Yeah. But five days, five days before, you couldn't switch your party affiliation. I, there was no one there willing to do it. So I went and did this myself.

• 29:51Tucker Carlson?

  What does your family say?

• 29:53Speaker 01

  Um, my husband loves me a lot. My four girls. Look, I'm doing this for four years, and then I'm going home. I'm not gonna turn into a lobbyist. I'm not rolling this into the next election. I'm doing this for four years, and it will be a sacrifice. And I'm doing this to save our state.

• 30:08Tucker Carlson?

  You've got your own business. You're building data centers?

• 30:11Speaker 01

  Nope. So when I'm governor, I'm gonna require data centers to put up a bond. Because when the technology's obsolete, and the companies file for bankruptcy, we're not gonna be left holding the bag in Wyoming. I tell you what else is gonna stop? All of these secret meetings and NDAs where your county commissioners are selling you out. The first time you know a data center's coming to town is because the ground's getting shoveled in. That's going to end when I'm governor. Now, I'm not gonna stop, I'm not gonna do a moratorium to stop all data centers. But these things are gonna start working for the people of Wyoming. And that's, we don't have that.

• 30:43Tucker Carlson?

  So, I mean, it does seem like every data center is built with public tax dollars.

• 30:47Speaker 01

  They seem to always worm their way into freebies or no sales tax. So the small guy, the, the small business owner, he has to pay sales tax on everything he purchases. But somehow these data centers, it never papers correctly. They never employ the amount of people that they were told. You know, this is what I tell people on the campaign trail. The same people that told us to get vaccinated are also telling us that the world's overpopulated, okay? So at some point, when are we gonna realize that the two are connected? You can't convince me that a data center's safe, right? Those same folks are now telling us that the data center's in your best interest. I don't buy. Are you gonna tell me we landed on the moon next?

• 31:26Tucker Carlson?

  No, it's so funny. The same people who told you the vax is safe are the same ones saying the world's overpopulated. No, that is, I've never,

• 31:33Speaker 01

  Get vaccinated to keep safe. And, and also, we landed on the moon. If you've ever looked at that, I mean, they've got an umbrella handle, like as the gear shift for the lunar module. It's like, I'm just not falling for it. You know what I mean? Like, you can't trick me. The number one thing that qualifies me to be governor is I can spot bullshit from a mile away.

• 31:57Tucker Carlson?

  I can tell you have four kids. It's so great. Good for you. How many dogs do you have?

• 32:01Speaker 01

  I only have one.

• 32:03Tucker Carlson?

  Oh.

• 32:03Speaker 01

  But she is so precious. Even the dog's a girl. So we got, the governor's mansion is going to turn into a hen house.

• 32:10Speaker 01

  With my four girls and the dog and everything.

• 32:12Tucker Carlson?

  Oh, that is so good.

• 32:13Speaker 01

  I have 15 illegal chickens in my backyard.

• 32:15Tucker Carlson?

  Do you really?

• 32:16Speaker 01

  The town of Jackson says you can't. We gotta worry about the environment. So you can't have chickens.

• 32:20Tucker Carlson?

  The chickens are against the environment?

• 32:22Speaker 01

  I said, watch me. Yeah. Can't have fruit trees either now.

• 32:25Tucker Carlson?

  Why? Oh, water consumption?

• 32:27Speaker 01

  No, they said it was for the environment. So.

• 32:31Tucker Carlson?

  So we're opposing nature for the sake of the environment?

• 32:33Speaker 01

  That's what they tell us.

• 32:34Tucker Carlson?

  You gotta cut all the trees down because of the environment?

• 32:36Speaker 01

  I went and planted more. As soon as they came out with that, I raced to the store to grab the last of the apple and cherry trees and I put them in my backyard.

• 32:44Tucker Carlson?

  You can't plant trees because of the environment?

• 32:47Speaker 01

  That, that's what they tell us. Yes. We have to worry about the animals and the environment. So we can't.

• 32:52Tucker Carlson?

  Does anybody, but she can't have trees? You can't have trees or animals.

• 32:56Speaker 01

  I think they're honestly trying to starve us out, Tucker. I'm just guessing here, but I think that's what's happening.

• 33:01Tucker Carlson?

  Are you making this up or is this real?

• 33:02Speaker 01

  I'm dead serious. The town of Jackson said, no honeybees, no chickens, and then they said, no fruit trees.

• 33:08Tucker Carlson?

  So no auxiliary food sources?

• 33:11Speaker 01

  Let me tell you what, let me tell you what.

• 33:13Tucker Carlson?

  You can't have extra food.

• 33:14Speaker 01

  Let me tell you what the town is.

• 33:15Tucker Carlson?

  But trust us, there's nothing sinister here. You just can't, you.

• 33:19Speaker 01

  Jackson Hole is so messed up that they take one minute of silence at every town meeting to recognize we're on stolen land.

• 33:26Tucker Carlson?

  Uh huh. Can they name the names of the tribe they stole it from? Do they know the names of people who stole it? They don't know anything. They're all from New Jersey, by the way. They don't know anything about the state.

• 33:35Speaker 01

  It's all fake.

• 33:37Tucker Carlson?

  It's all rich kids from New Jersey. Um, sorry, sorry, my bigotry's coming out here. Uh, but that's true, as you know. But the fact they banned fruit trees, honeybees, and chickens in the name of nature.

• 33:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:49Tucker Carlson?

  Is pretty remarkable.

• 33:50Speaker 01

  It is.

• 33:52Tucker Carlson?

  They're gonna be, I don't know, probably blowing up the Tetons to put in data centers in the name of the environment at some point.

• 33:58Speaker 01

  Well, good for me. I'm not used to following the rules.

• 34:00Tucker Carlson?

  Man, well, back, I'm rooting for you strongly. I'm not a Teton County voter. I'd probably vote there anyway, right? Can you do that? They require voter ID?

• 34:11Speaker 01

  They are supposed to be requiring ID. I don't know what happens in Teton County, but

• 34:15Tucker Carlson?

  Okay.

• 34:15Speaker 01

  Please Wyoming, give me a chance. Put me in coach. I'm ready for this. I'm going down there. I'm gonna break up that old boys' club. I promise you Wyoming, I'm fighting for us.

• 34:25Tucker Carlson?

  I believe you. Thanks for doing this. I appreciate it.

• 34:28Speaker 01

  Thank you.