Trump's Nigeria Hit, Israel WARNS Iran Strike + 1M Epstein Files Release | PBD Podcast | Ep. 708

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down Trump’s military strikes against ISIS targets in Nigeria, Israel’s warning of an Iranian attack, and the ongoing release of over a million Jeffrey Epstein-related files that’s roiling Washington. ------ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:13Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right here. You are a one of one? My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, all hear me, see me, Vinny, Tom, Adam, can we hear each other, see each other? Yup.

• 0:31Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, sir, Merry Christmas, looking good, gentlemen.

• 0:35Patrick Bet-David?

  To everybody, we're all over the place, but we were able to figure it out. Where we are right now, it's a very early, the sun is coming out, which is great. But we wanted to make sure we kept this time with you guys, to be with you on Christmas. Everybody that's with us, early this morning, Merry Christmas to y'all. Hopefully Santa came through for you, hopefully you guys have good memories. Last night, yesterday, you know, we had a good time, it was a little bit of a rough night for me. Because, Vinny, I really didn't want to talk about this, but yesterday, we were playing Hold'em poker and my 12-year-old son, one by one by one eliminated everybody, and then he took me out because the river was a seven, and we went all in, and it was game over, it's documented. I'm not sure if I'm comfortable. Sure.

• 1:22Patrick Bet-David?

  We were having Christmas, we're doing our thing, we went ski shooting, we had a good time doing our thing there, and then, we tried to go skiing, first time in my life skiing, I typically snowboard, I'm so glad nobody was recording when I was skiing, Vinny was, but there was a couple things that happened with Vinny and I that, it's just, it's great that we were not wearing Future Looks Bright gear when we were skiing, Vinny. Yes, yes. It's been horrible.

• 1:45Adam Sosnick?

  Embarrassing.

• 1:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Horrible, embarrassing. We lost credibility for the ski, not you, me here, but we're safe and sound here with you guys, and although many of you may have had a Merry Christmas, some of the people who are part of this one clique, some people call it a gang, some people call it a terrorist organization, call ISIS, they had a rough Christmas yesterday because the president decided on Christmas to attack, you know, the ISIS organization in Nigeria that are killing many, many innocent.

• 2:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Christians and eventually, you know, a lot of attention came to that the president decided to attack them on Christmas. And with the request from the Nigerian government, by the way, FYI, expect all over the news today. And on Monday, podcasters, YouTubers, the news media, everybody talking about. I thought we were for no war. I thought we're not, which by the way, it's a great topic to debate. Was this a good move or not? We'll have that conversation here ourselves as well. Aside from that, a couple of different things that we want to go through with you news wise. The Minnesota fraud thing is not getting any prettier. It's getting worse. They're just digging themselves. A grave, more things that are being found. Vinny's got some stuff that he wants to.

• 3:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Share with you guys. One of the stories I think Vinny you got is of Nick Shirley of Minnesota, what he found, and I'm sure. Amazing, amazing video. Everybody, by the way, you guys remember the last six months, people would send me videos are like, Pat. This is not you in this video, this AI video that Facebook keeps approving. We would report, report, report. It's like, I have some stock tips that's going to give you a game. That is not me speaking. And we reported hundreds of times, Facebook never did anything about it. Well, guess what? Story just came out. That Meta made $16 billion. Allowing these companies to run AI scams that scammed so many different people using AI. They know this is not the real people that are talking, but they allowed that to happen. $16 billion.

• 3:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Horrible look on Facebook that they knew you have the technology to tell that this is fake. And you still allowed it to happen. We're definitely going to talk about that. Trump lashes out at Stephen Colbert and urges CBS to put him to sleep. Apparently Colbert, I don't know why some stories are coming out. With him and Epstein, we'll cover that. Trump's booming US economy, obviously. The left is not happy. They're miserable that they have to report that the economy is doing better. And you know, challenges that they were facing is the best in two years. We'll cover that, whether it's good for everybody or if it's just good for the rich, if it's good for. People who have equities, those who don't have equities, we'll cover that. Tom's got a lot of thoughts on that. Trump calls New York Times a threat to national security in the late.

• 4:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Night social media rant. Jimmy Kimmel made a video on Christmas, which Vinny you were bringing up a minute ago. Talking about how, hey, I don't know what's going on over there in your country, UK, but I can tell you, we don't look familiar, we don't look normal right now in America. We have this guy in the White House who doesn't like me because he, he wants me to like him and adore him, and I don't adore him, you just have to kind of watch this video. It's a different kind of a video by Jimmy. Stephen Miller calls CBS News to fire 60 Minutes producer over the revolt. And then there's a bunch of things going on with Barry Weiss and Megyn Kelly, which we'll definitely get into. Apparently now, Megyn Kelly said her and Ben Shapiro are not friends a week ago or two weeks ago. Now her and Barry Weiss are not friends, who Barry Weiss is now a heavyweight at CBS. So that's a big story.

• 5:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump said it would be smart for Maduro to give up power, is what he says. We'll cover that. There's a revival of the Greenland takeover dismay of Denmark, which we'll cover that as well. Failing grace for Newsom from his own state auditor. And by the way, Newsom, Vinnie's got a story that wants to cover on the scheme that's going on over there in California. And then we have Putin's army suffers the bloodiest year yet. As military prepares for prolonged war, no confidence Ukraine and Russia will reach a peace deal, Vance says. Think about it. The VP said they don't have any confidence that those two are going to reach a peace deal. So what do you do now? You lost leverage, right? You said day one, that's going to be done.

• 5:57Patrick Bet-David?

  So the people that are disputing and saying, well, wait a minute. I thought it's going to be done in day one. That is a fair topic for people to debate and push back on, because that was one of the promises that the president made. And we'll discuss that as well. Federal judge strikes down gender secrecy policies in California public schools. Remember that whole story where if your kid wants to transition and they're doing anything that the teachers don't have to tell the parents? And, you know, that, it kept on, it's none of your business, parents, because it's a village, it takes a village, and us, part of the village, you don't, you don't need to say anything, it's our kids as well. It's not just your kids. Well, there's something that happened there that Tom's going to talk about. Some terrible news for Democrats. Murder in the US is down 20%. Likely the largest single year drop ever.

• 6:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me say it again, murder is down 20% from 2024 under Biden to now. Murder is down 20%. I'm sure the left is not happy because that statistic shows that America's safer under this administration than it was under Biden's administration. And by the way, Biden must have had a horrible Christmas, because his son went on a podcast with Sean Ryan and called him out. I don't know what the hell was going on with Afghanistan all then he pretty much threw his entire dad under the bus. Can you imagine this guy? He hooks up with his brother's widowed wife. Okay, they do drugs together allegedly. Now he says that laptop is a fake thing. Dead under the bus. What a shit show of what they're going, imagine their Christmas. How you doing, son?

• 7:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Very good dad, I just talked a bunch of shit about you yesterday on Sean Ryan. But it was great. Can we have some dinner and play some cards together? Yeah, let's do it, baby. Um, what a weird situation that must be.

• 7:40Patrick Bet-David?

  And then we got some stuff, Minnesota Dems, we'll cover that. Ice, there's a video for that if we have the time, we'll get into it. Retirement accounts rolled back in 2025 after punishing losses during the Biden era. And then we have to cover the Mary, Nicki Minaj quits Instagram after the TPUSA Adams got some thoughts on that. Logan Paul gives some advice about finances, which he got some pushback. And then last but not least, Joe Rogan gave some chilling advice to Jake Paul, which I actually appreciate that that advice was given to them. Having said that, folks, if you, this is a message I'm going to give to you all year long in 2026. All year long in 2026.

• 8:21Patrick Bet-David?

  There is nothing more exciting than when I run into people that are wearing this gear. Merry Christmas boldly. Mario has been wearing this every day, wherever he's going, the VT gear here. The future looks bright and when you open it up here, it says future looks bright. I love seeing the future looks bright hat that Tom's got on. Or you got the, uh, uh, the faith over fear gear. Record breaking number of people are wearing the merch gear that we have, uh, with us. And there's some massive announcements that I'll be making here very, very soon to you guys. What our plans are going into 2026 with this, uh, of VT merch. We want tens of millions of people to represent this year. My suggestion to you, wear these things boldly.

• 9:07Patrick Bet-David?

  If you support our brand, you like what we do. You don't want us to take money from Qatar or some of these other organizations that are coming and offering money to own podcasts and shows. I highly recommend you support brands that are making, that are able to give their opinions and thoughts freely. And if you believe the future looks bright like we do, I am certain the future looks bright. Let me give you guys a crazy story. In 1997.

• 9:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Apple did 816 million dollars of losses. Their top line revenue in 1997, they lost 816 million dollars in 1997. Today, Apple makes 1.1 billion per day. They lost a billion in a year in 97. Today, they make a billion one a day. They believe the future looks bright now. They're a four trillion dollar organization. For us, for some of you guys that may be celebrating Christmas, and honestly, maybe things weren't going right for you. Maybe I've had the Christmas when I'm sitting, I'm like, is anything gonna turn around for me? Is life gonna change at all? Like, is this how it's gonna be? And what am I gonna get my break? You know that feeling how like you feel like, man, like you're cheering a lot?

• 10:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Like the feeling of you go to Christmas and everybody's giving gifts? And it's like that one movie, Four Christmases, where Dallas, Denver, all the brothers come in, and Vince Vaughn is the big brother that's making all this money now, and he brings the recent Xbox, and he brings all this stuff. And he says, "Did you not see the minimum of $10?" The other guy, a flashlight, I don't know if you guys remember that scene? Sometimes that may be the Christmas. Things are not going right for you. Yesterday, Vinnie was sharing a story with me, which is an incredible, incredible story that I want to share with you guys, which is what we believe in. Have you ever heard of a guy named Jack Strauss? You ever heard of Jack Strauss? Can you do me a favor, Humberto? Type in Jack Strauss, then put poker.

• 10:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Jack Strauss, S.T.R.A.U.S.S., and type in poker. Craziest story of Jack Strauss. One day, Jack Strauss, in 1982, this man that Humberto's about to pull up his picture, because Humberto's so fast and quick and phenomenal. This guy's playing poker. This guy's playing poker in 1982. He's in a World Series Poker tournament, okay? Right there, that one right there, zoom in a little bit. He's in the 1982 World Series Poker. You know the big tournament that people win $10 million? In 1982, that guy right there is getting off the table because he called all in, and he has no chips left. He's thinking, he gets up to leave.

• 11:38Patrick Bet-David?

  And then all of a sudden, they say, no, no, Jack, you have one last $500 chip left. He says, you're kidding me. They said, no. All right. I mean, you only got one chip left, $500, which is what? Nothing. He takes the $500 chip and he keeps doubling it and doubling it and doubling it and doubling it. You know what ends up happening to him? He wins the flipping 82 World Series. Wow. Did you hear the story? Some of you are watching this. You're like, dude, I'm down to my last chip. I'm trying to figure life out. I went all into my business. I took money out of my 401k. My wife and I wanted to start a restaurant. We did this. This Christmas was rough. We stayed home. We didn't go anywhere. We got some basic gifts, $10 Amazon gift cards. Life can turn around if you think long term. That's what we believe in.

• 12:23Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what happened to every single one of us because we believe the future looks bright. So if you believe the future looks bright and you support our brand, go to vtmerch.com, place an order for yourself, whether it's the Merry Christmas gear, whether it's the future looks bright, faith over fear, or the shoes. FLB, we're excited about pick plans we got in 2026 and I'll tell you more about it in the first week that we do the podcast in January of 2026. Having said that, let's get right into it. Humberto, I want to start off with the first story, which is the attack that happened yesterday in Christmas. Nigeria, US launches powerful strikes against Islamic State in Nigeria, Trump says. Now, keep in mind, this is on Christmas Day. So Humberto, if you want to pull up

• 13:08Patrick Bet-David?

  the actual tweet from the president, President Trump has said that the US launched a powerful and deadly strike against the Islamic State group in northwestern Nigeria. The US leader described it as a terrorist scum, accusing the group of targeting and viciously killing primarily innocent Christians. Trump said the US military executed numerous perfect strikes while the US Africa Command later reported that Thursday's attack was carried out in coordination with Nigeria in Sokoto State. Nigerian Foreign Minister Yosef Maitama Togger told the BBC it was a joint operation. So to all the people that are saying he did this by himself, he cannot, nope, they asked for help. The president came and supported it.

• 13:55Patrick Bet-David?

  And they told BBC was a joint operation targeting terrorists and it was has nothing to do with a particular religion without naming ICE, IS which is ISIS, the Islamic State Northwestern Nigeria group specifically. Tucker said that the operation had been planned for quite some time and had used intelligence information provided by the Nigerian side. The minister did not rule out further strikes, adding that this depended on decisions to be taken by the leadership of the two countries. In this post on Truth Social later Thursday, Trump said that, "Under my leadership, our country will not allow radical Islamic terrorism to prosper." In November, Trump ordered the US military to prepare for action in Nigeria to tackle Islamist military group. Humberto, do you have the video of the clip of what happened?

• 14:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have the video? While you're pulling that up, Vinny, I'll come to you first. What are your thoughts about what happened yesterday? Remember this, Vinny. Here's what people are gonna say. I thought they said no more wars. What is this all about? How come this? How come that? And these are good arguments. These are good topics to debate. Where do you stand with this?

• 14:55Speaker 03

  And Pat, let them argue. Let them complain. Let them cry. Let them whine. You know who's not whining and who's not complaining today? You know who's not, Pat? All the Nigerian families who have been getting slaughtered and murdered in church. These are enemy combatants. They're not holding up arms. They're in church praying to God in Jesus Christ, Pat. You already know this gets this is an emotional topic for me, but these Islamic terrorists always try to use our Christian holidays to instill fear. I absolutely love that the president chose Christmas to instill fear into theirs, okay? No more playing games. No more. Okay? And that's

• 15:38Speaker 03

  the launch. That's the launch of one of our battle crews. Good for them. Good for them. Okay? They're gonna think twice once they go in this church with women, children, everybody praying. It's about time, Pat. And people are gonna say, "No new wars." I already know the same old cast. "No new wars." This isn't a war. Okay? This is an intervention with their government. How's it a war if the government of the country that you're attacking is in on it? No, this is an ISIS problem. Okay? And this is, guys, this is what leadership looks like. And finally, finally... Somebody is sticking up for the Christians. Everybody else has somebody sticking up for them, whether it be, you know, Jewish or whatever it is, okay? And today, the same people are gonna complain.

• 16:23Speaker 03

  Go ahead, go and complain, nobody cares, the Christians don't care, and guess what? You know, people are like, "Well, Christianity is about love and peace." Yeah, it is, but we're not supposed to lay down and get murdered, Pat. I think this is such an amazing move by the president, and what a, what a great tactical move on Christmas. Who would have thought, you think they're sitting there going, "Oh, they're gonna attack us on Jesus Christ's birthday"? No, Pat, this is one of the best news that I've heard in a while, and Nicki Minaj's voice, all of her talking, all of us talking on this podcast, it got to the president and they heard it, Pat, I'm so happy.

• 16:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, what do you think about this? Great feedback there, Vinnie. Adam, where are you at with this?

• 17:01Adam Sosnick?

  Of course, I mean, you know, the famous phrase, "Not all Muslims are terrorists." But if you're just connecting dots here, all terrorists are Islamic extremists. I'm sorry to say this, but if you just look at the math, look at the data, the top 10 terrorist networks in the world all happen to be Islamists, okay? So let me just run down this list real quick. Maybe you've heard of these groups. So you have ISIS, you have Al Qaeda, you have Islamic Jihad, you have the Taliban, you have Boko Haram, which is in Nigeria, you have ISIS-K, they did the bombing, I believe, in Russia not too long ago. Hezbollah, Hamas, for you ladies and gentlemen, that think they're a peaceful organization.

• 17:41Adam Sosnick?

  Al-Shabaab, the Houthis in Yemen, and Islamic Jihad in Palestine, that's rounding out the list. So again, not all Muslims are terrorists. I have Muslim friends, I have Arab friends, I have friends from all over the world. But let's just connect some dots here and explain, there is a terrorism problem within Islam. Now, Nigeria is the latest, but we saw what happened in Syria, we're seeing what's happening all around the world. I feel like I'm in the movie Zoolander, where I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, where it's the same story over and over again. And the biggest problem is you have these weak leaders, these weak, feckless losers in the West, who are like, "Come on, guys, let's be tolerant."

• 18:25Adam Sosnick?

  And then boom, their society explodes.

• 18:27Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, I want you to watch this, if you watch this here, I have two clips for you, okay? Of folks in Nigeria begging for help. Here's a pastor, a Nigerian pastor, speaking out for help. Go ahead, go ahead, Humberto.

• 18:42Speaker 04

  Look at it today.

• 18:46Speaker 04

  Is there any Muslim?

• 18:48Speaker 03

  I can't hear it.

• 18:50Speaker 04

  United Nations, I know you're watching it. American Senate, you are watching what I'm doing, I'm saying here. Special advisor to Trump, now, please, dead Trump to save our life in Nigeria. They are killing Christians in Nigeria, massacre Christians. If they'll say they kill Muslims, his Muslims are being killed. By who? By Muslims.

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• 19:52Speaker 04

  Look at it today.

• 19:54Patrick Bet-David?

  This is one pastor and video I sent it to you directly as well, but I have another one I want you to watch as well. It's another man here. This is a man, here's a man who is saying, please come help us. Watch this, pleading for the president to show up. Go forward, go for it Umberto.

• 20:12Speaker 06

  Come and save Nigeria. We are facing a lot in this country. The terrorism, the Baku Arab, they are killing our brothers and sisters. The US government, please come and save Nigeria. Don't mind whatever our leaders are saying. The terrorism, the Baku Arab, the bad people, they are killing our brothers everywhere in Nigerians. They're killing is not only the Christians. They are killing both Muslims and Christians. They are killing everybody. The US government.

• 20:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, where are you at with this? I mean, this is the people pleading for us to help them out.

• 20:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, this is this is a success of leadership and a failure of leadership. And the first thing that I'll respond to real quick is to all those in the media and all the pundits that are out there, they're saying, oh, no new wars, no new wars. This is not a war. We've already had a war on terror. We already have a war on ISIS. We are already going after that. This is a victory for the pressure that got put on a president and his name is not Donald Trump. It's Bola Tinubu of Nigeria. Bola Tinubu in Nigeria said, oh, I welcome foreign aid. Send me arms. I need to fight. And the word he kept using was insurgents. And in November, after this podcast and Nicki Minaj, Nicki Minaj, God bless you for speaking to the, I think it was the ambassador's office of the UN.

• 21:39Tom Ellsworth?

  God bless you for doing that thing and raising it because it reached Donald Trump's ears and he wasn't ignoring it. But then the president was saying, oh, Trump, I'll take your, I'll take your aid. I'll take your military stuff. I need to fight insurgencies. And finally, in December, just weeks ago, Bola Tinubu says, uh, there was no religious persecution. No, no, no, wait, we may have an issue with ISIS. We may have an issue with this. He rejected, he flatly rejected claims of religious persecution. And now he came back and said, not only do you need your aid, I need your aid for ISIS. And I need it in ISIS because, well, yes, Christians are being persecuted. The pressure wasn't put on Trump.

• 22:22Tom Ellsworth?

  It was put on Bola Tinubu, who had pride, who had ego, and then said, yes, I need your help. I want your help. And with that green light, a friend, a country that we trade oil with and all these things says, I need help. Trump didn't start a war. He responded to a president that finally decided to help his own people.

• 22:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and you know, it's, it's, I know the debate is coming about I thought no war. I know they're gonna come attack the president non-stop all day today. And they're gonna say, you know, this is your president, I'm so disappointed in my vote for him. And they're gonna give that message, that'll come out now. Keep in mind, Nicki Minaj, when you think about Nicki Minaj, she comes out, she's vocal about it. Keep in mind, guys, Nicki Minaj is not somebody that's got 3 million followers. Or Nicki Minaj is not somebody that coming out against this helped her business. On Twitter, she's got 26 million followers. On Instagram, I believe she had like 40 million followers, I don't know the exact number.

• 23:25Patrick Bet-David?

  If I go online and I type in Nicki Minaj, uh, uh, uh, on YouTube, if we type in Nicki Minaj music videos and we go to most views, okay? If I go and look at how many views, just to know her level of fame, not in the conservative right, just period in regular hip-hop culture, 2.3 billion views, okay? Song, next one, 2.1 billion views, okay? Next one, 2 billion views, 1.8 billion views, 1.7 billion views, 1.6 billion views. This is Nicki Minaj. She chooses to go to Turning Point USA. And she's been vocally talking about this. She goes, does the interview with Erica Kirk at Turning Point USA.

• 24:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Unlike Megan Thee Stallion who went out there, Nicki Minaj came up and did a great interview, you know, giving her thoughts on what's going on out there. Then all of a sudden, stories comes out that she lost 10 million followers, okay? When she lost the 10 million followers on Instagram, she decided after the backlash of going to Turning Point USA to shut down. Now, we'll verify this right now if it's truly shut down, shut down or not. Uh, uh, you know, she, uh, she allegedly shut down her Instagram account after all the challenges that she faced. Adam, I'm gonna come to you here. How big of a deal is it for somebody with her level of fame? In Hollywood, in music, in rap, in hip hop culture, to come out and say, guys, I'm for Christians.

• 24:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not with anything else. You guys can buy my albums or not. I'm for Christians. How big of a move is that? And how risky was it on her end?

• 24:57Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, Nicki Minaj is not a star. She's not a rapper. She's a global superstar, arguably the greatest female rapper rapper living today. Almost said lapper, but lap dance. But she has a massive platform. She has a massive voice. My assumption is this, you don't just show up at Turning Point, sit down with Erica Kirk, and then just wonder why I got all this backlash. She must have known this was coming. You have to. Either you're oblivious, or you're taking a stand for something. There's no in between here. It's not like somebody's gonna be like, well, are you shocked by the response from a black female rapper? Knowing what the Democratic Party is, knowing what Hollywood is, knowing what the rap world is,

• 25:40Adam Sosnick?

  that you're gonna receive this amount of backlash? Nobody was not expecting this. The level of 10 million being lost in a day? Wow. I mean, nobody has 10 million followers much as losing that in a day. My assumption is, she knew exactly what she was doing. If she got caught flat footed and had no idea, that's on her. But if this was a planned out, coordinated, I'm standing for something or you'll fall for anything type of move, then respect to her. And don't forget, the biggest purpose of her doing this was she was calling out Gavin Newsom, as she calls it, and talking about how weak men are the detriment to society. So, respect to Nikki.

• 26:22Adam Sosnick?

  But if she didn't know this was coming, you got another thing coming.

• 26:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, your thoughts?

• 26:28Speaker 03

  Adam, sometimes, you know what I mean, like your soul, and I get it, Adam, we know people in the industry, especially in Hollywood, I lived there for god knows how long. It's a cult, okay? And they want, especially in the African American community with the rappers, and they want to keep everybody to wake people up to what's really happening and get their mindsets out of that whole, the Democratic Party loves me. It's a, it's not for everybody, you know what I'm saying? Like to go- out there on the ledge, I go, wait a minute. The governor sucks, okay? Abortion is is cool with everybody. President Trump is actually helping. They're helping with Nigeria and everything. That system will eat you up alive. What Kanye, and I'm not sticking up for Kanye West. But what I'm saying is, what was his first downfall? What was it? Wearing that red hat.

• 27:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 27:14Speaker 03

  Wearing the freaking Donald Trump hat. They went after him like crazy, okay? This is a freaking.

• 27:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Step out of line.

• 27:20Speaker 03

  Tommy, yup, this is a brainwashed cult. I am so freaking proud of Nicki Minaj. I understand, listen, it's not for everybody. We don't care, we're not, we're not, you know, at that level, especially with industry. But as you guys know, man, these, these, Michael Jackson, all these people that have been through it. Once you're in there, once you're with Sony or whatever, I don't know what, what, um, what publishing she's with. But they, are you gonna go against the great, are you gonna go up against us? No, no, they destroy people, they destroy people. And I saw Joe Budden's Pat went on a podcast and was like, I'm Nicki's, Nicki Minaj is done. I'm done with her. Why, why, Joe? Why? Cause she's not gonna keep that slave ass mentality of just Democrat, Democrat. Name me one thing that the Democrat Party has done for the African American community.

• 28:05Speaker 03

  Go ahead, go ahead. And I'm sick and tired, I'm so sick, Pat, of hearing racist, this, that. It's like, get on with it. There's nothing that this guy can do to make these people happy. I guarantee you, if Trump bombed a, a, a group of people that were talking bad about the LGBTQ community in Nigeria, they'd be like this, oh, he's sticking up for the gays, okay? But when it's for Christians, nothing. When Nicki's sticking up for Gavin Newsom, and we're gonna get to him. He is going to go down as one of the worst governors, worst, Pat, seventy billion dollars scamming there. She talks up about it, she's talking about masculinity, and they're all going after her. She'll, I think she's gonna be fine, Pat, but this is, this isn't, like I said, for everybody. She's gonna have to learn pretty quick that these people are disgusting and they're evil.

• 28:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't, I don't know if, I don't know if she's gonna be fine. Give me a second, let me just say something. By the way, do you guys actually know how many followers Nicki Minaj had before she shut it down? Probably fifty million. Two hundred and twenty-three million followers on Instagram. Crazy. Did you hear what I just said?

• 29:06Adam Sosnick?

  Is that top 10 in the world where she's ranked?

• 29:08Patrick Bet-David?

  She's top 10 in the world. 223 million followers. And by the way, a lot of people are saying 10 million, but that was an Instagram post that was going viral. She only lost about 3 to 4 million, which some people might say 3 to 4 million is a lot. To lose 3 to 4 million on 223 million is not a big number. It's like losing 1.1% or 1.3%. So it is a number, but not as big of a number as people thought. I'm willing to bet she gained net positive, tens of millions of followers. So the net positive kind of went like this as well. Christians finally have somebody that they can lean on that defends their, and specifically in Hollywood and in culture, hip hop, that defends them.

• 29:52Patrick Bet-David?

  She got to give credit to that. Adam, you were going to say something.

• 29:55Adam Sosnick?

  No, I was going to say she lost followers, Nicki Minaj, but she gained respect. So I got to give her credit for that, but let's not get it twisted. This isn't like a typical black guy, like a rapper, like a Kanye who came out and supported Trump, or even a Lil Wayne, or even Pat's friend Kodak Blue, AKA Kodak Black. This isn't 50 Cent saying, listen, man, I don't want to be 20 Cent. This is a black female. So I guarantee you, the majority of people who unfollowed her were female, because that's what women do, they get real emotional. But don't forget, who's the base of the Democratic Party? Typically, black women. So she's going to have to deal with what the backlash of black women being like, damn, I can't believe you, Nicki. She's going to deal with that. So I hope she's ready for it.

• 30:38Adam Sosnick?

  I think she knows what she's doing, but just in case she doesn't, get ready for it.

• 30:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, any thoughts?

• 30:44Tom Ellsworth?

  No closing thoughts. I think she's more than ready for it, because I think there's people around, Nicki. Look at what she did. She goes and speaks at the UN. She speaks to the UN. She's not just putting tweets. She's not just doing this. And that is more than doing an interview on TV. That is more than putting out a tweet. This is a woman who put it all the line there, and I think she sees what's coming, but I also think she sees the net positive, because the number of voices, I don't see the news articles right now saying, oh, why are you doing that? Why are you doing that? About the Nigerian Christians. I see people that just don't want Trump to win at all costs, and they're willing to criticize her for that. But I think she's ready to do it.

• 31:26Tom Ellsworth?

  I think she's demonstrated she's tough, and you can't live a day in the music industry without being tough in the first place.

• 31:31Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what I do respect? You guys know? DJ Khalid, right? So DJ Khalid We the best! Okay, DJ Khalid is Palestinian. Yes. And the Palestinian community kept criticizing DJ Khalid for what? For not being vocal about being Palestinian and never commented about it, apparently. And maybe he has, maybe he hasn't, but I've seen stuff that he's never said anything about it. And his community is like, wait a minute. It's like, imagine if something happens to Assyrians and, you know, I don't comment on it. Okay, something happens to Armenians, you don't comment on it. So he got criticized for this and, yeah, has faced significant criticism for his silence on the Israel-Palestine conflict,

• 32:15Patrick Bet-David?

  especially regarding Gaza, with many accusing him of prioritizing his brand and endorsement over his heritage and humanitarian concerns. Fair criticism. Nobody can say that about Nicki Minaj. Yep, Nicki Minaj, when you hear the statement, hey, to me, it's faith, family, country, then my occupation and what I do. You know what Nicki just put? Nicki just told the world, "My faith comes first." And you tell, you gotta respect the hell out of that. I love it. You gotta respect the hell out of that, even though she knows she just lost brand deals. You know she just lost the opportunity to perform Super Bowl halftime commercials, you know, halftime stuff.

• 32:57Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the stuff, and now, the way she's handling it, I like the way she's handling it because she's not overly criticizing the opposing side. She's just saying, this is what's important to me, I'm gonna be vocal about it. And I'm proud of her for the way she's handled this, so kudos to her. Can I say one thing? Can I say one thing? I fully agree with you. Say, now I gotta say one thing. We gotta go, I got, I got stories to go through. I gotta go to the next story. Next story I wanna get into is the following. Watch this, folks. Again, remember this. When you think about the criticism for the president, Nigeria attack all this stuff. Then we go Nicki Minaj Christian. Then we go, what type of a president do you want? Think about this here. If you're watching, if you're a family person, you got a wife, kids, husband, family, right? What is the number one thing that's most important to you?

• 33:42Patrick Bet-David?

  It starts with the letter N. Safety, security. Security. Number one thing, most important. When a husband and wife live in a community, when we go into a community... We were looking at a community one time in Delray. Beautiful home, the house was just sold to a very well-known person. We were about to buy the same house. I go into that community. After we look at the house, it's an amazing house. Twenty-five thousand square feet. The closet was insane. The backyard looked like one of these hotels in Vegas, and that's where they got the design. But I leave the place and I start seeing people walking into community. And I'm asking, hey, so listen, we're looking at one of the houses, such and such property, we just looked at it with such and such realtor. What stories are there here? Well, you know, there's nothing, it's a good safe.

• 34:26Patrick Bet-David?

  The only thing is there's a python that they still haven't found. I said, excuse me? Yeah, there's this python that they haven't found.

• 34:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you like, I'm waiting for her to laugh. Are you joking? No, no, there's a python that's killed a couple of small dogs. We got two small dogs, Jim and Kooch. I'm like, wait. So then I go to the security and I say, hey, just out of curiosity, I just heard a story from a couple of the people that live here. Is it true that there's a python that's? Yeah, but it's only two dogs. I said, so this is a true story? Guys, I walked out, I said, babe, we're not buying this house. I'm not gonna sit in the backyard and the kids are swimming in the pool, have to go look for a python and hire security guards. We're not doing that, right? So watch this. Look at maybe the most important stat for average families that just want to make sure if their kids playing outside, they're safe. Look at the numbers that just came in.

• 35:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Murders in the U.S. are down nearly 20%. The largest single year drop ever. By the way, I need these things at this age, you see these? There it is, there it is. I'm on there, so if you want to take some shots and make fun of me, go at it. But I'm doing it, so page 16. Let's check this out.

• 35:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, so.

• 35:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Here we go. The nationwide murder rates fell dramatically in 2025, likely the single largest drop ever recorded, according to new crime data. Killing in the U.S. plunged nearly 20% to last year following a COVID-era spike in violence, according to Real-Time Crime Index. In total, there were 5,912 murders recorded in the U.S. between January and October of 2025. Same time last year under Biden in 2024, 7,369. It's a remarkable drop in crime, the crime data analyst Jeff Asher noted. It almost certainly fell out a historic clip in 2025, led by the largest one-year drop in murder ever recorded. The co-founder of

• 36:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Data Analytics, A.H., uh, Data Lytics added, "The positive trend includes a more than 20% decline in New York City, 28% drop in Chicago, 28% in DC, where President Trump oversaw a massive crime crackdown. Murder in LA County fell also by nearly 19%, along with a 7.5% decrease in New Orleans. Meanwhile, mass murders in the U.S. also fell in 2025, reaching their lowest level since 2006," according to the index, which complies data from 570 law enforcement agencies. So, when you see this, you don't have to agree with a lot of things the president is doing. Do you want it to be safe for your kids when you're going out there doing your thing? Do you want a leader people fear that if,

• 37:09Patrick Bet-David?

  God forbid, they break the law, he's gonna show up and he's gonna say, "No, no, no, we're not doing this"? I think there's another story that's out there that they're considering sending people to New Orleans or Louisiana. I'll pause on this. I'll come to you first, Tom. Tom, your thoughts on the story with the murder being down 20%? How big of a deal is this, Tom?

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• 37:56Tom Ellsworth?

  This is a huge and very, very big deal, and I'll tell you why. It says that policing works. Remember, the president was asked by citizens in Chicago that held up signs, just like that man in Nigeria did. Remember this, Pat? People doing it, and people, a guy with a backpack, an African-American guy, appears that he's going to work, and he says, "We need help here. We need help." And it's because "defund the police" led to a lack of safety. And then "castrating the police" led to a lack of safety. And then places like Los Angeles, you didn't need the National Guard there. But when you got national support for the police, remember, people in Portland and people in Minneapolis, there were more people wanting police back during the election, Democrats,

• 38:39Tom Ellsworth?

  independents, and conservatives, than were sitting still with the "defund the police" thing. "Defund the police" was still this Democrat slogan deep inside the far, far left that's against any authoritarianism, because, spoiler alert, they want to be the authority over your life. They want your guns. They want your freedoms. They want your freedom of speech. That's what's going on. So what I see here, policing works. Policing absolutely worked. Although, when the murder falls by 19% in Los Angeles, it's usually because a lot of the victims moved away, moved out of state. So there's probably a little immigration that helped, you know, reverse immigration that helped that stat.

• 39:20Tom Ellsworth?

  But this is, I think, our very big statistics on the full year, and nobody wants to give credit for Trump. Why don't we just give credit for America being safer and giving credit for the fact that the people that live downtown, the people who live these things, maybe feel just a little bit safer today than they did 11 months ago? Remember, we're here at the end of the year. We're about to say "Happy New Year" next week. And then three weeks later, it's the anniversary of the inauguration. So don't say this was already happening under Biden. Don't say you were already making progress. No. The National Guard thing, and to the Supreme Court that said, "No, he doesn't have authority to force the National Guard in." You've got governors, like the governor of Louisiana, who has just been appointed to do some work in Greenland.

• 40:04Tom Ellsworth?

  who said, we need some help in New Orleans, Mr. President, can you please help us? Just like the Nigerian president says, can you please help us? And so I think this is a really big stat. There's more work to do because there are 5,912 murders that happened, which means there's 5,912 groups of friends and family that are hurting because they lost someone, but we made progress in the right direction. And it's as a result of leadership and supporting the local police.

• 40:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Very good point, Tom, and you got to keep this in mind. What makes this data so important and Vinnie, I'm going to come to you next, is it's January to October. I love that it ends in October. You know why I love that it ends in October? Because election is November. So the best thing to do is show January to October, January to October. It's the perfect timeline to make the comp on to see maybe Biden made America safer. What if data showed that it was safer under Biden? Well, guess it wasn't. Guess what? It wasn't, it wasn't. So no matter what people are going to be talking about, the most base, and by the way, if, if, if the Republican Party, if conservatives, if the White House doesn't know how to sell this, they have to sell it.

• 41:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Like if you want to talk to women, talk to mothers and look at them and say, ma'am, to all the mothers out there who have kids under the age of 18, what happens every time your kid steps out of the house and you're not around them? What do mothers start doing? You panic a little bit, you worry a little bit because you're worried is your kid going to come back because of the crime and the murders that's taking place? That fear on every single mother in America that's organically, you were born with it. He decreased it by 20%. Their policies decreased it by 20%. You can sit there and bitch and whine about 50 other policies that maybe you're not happy with.

• 41:57Patrick Bet-David?

  But the one thing that's very important to you, your kid will come, come home tonight. 20% safer than it was last year, same exact time. They should be celebrating this and screaming it off the top of their lungs. This is a massive, massive victory for the administration. Vinnie, your thoughts?

• 42:15Speaker 03

  That great point, and going back to guess who's not complaining, Pat? Guess who's not complaining like the Christians in Nigeria? The mothers, the mothers of the kids that gotta walk through these freaking neighborhoods because the Democratic mayors have failed the public, okay? JB Pritzker, Johnson, from all these, all these, all these mayors and all these governors, where are you at? What are you doing? Twenty percent, that's not a five percent, that's not a ten... Twenty percent of murder is down, and Tom, you nailed it. I guess the national, I guess because you guys aren't doing your job, we have to deploy United States soldiers to walk around because you guys aren't doing your job. Okay, and guys, let's not forget, he's been in for one year. One year and everything's happening.

• 42:59Speaker 03

  The economy's starting to cook. Gas prices, five-year low. Inflation, fourteen, four-year low. GDP's getting up. Crime is down. Murder is down. He's bombing terrorists. What else do they want? And Pat, you know who's gonna complain today? Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer with his freaking beady little eyes and his glasses, because they have nothing. And I just hope that the American public, guys, the people out there, because I know our audience is broad and there's a lot. Stop, when is enough going to be enough for you? What else does this guy have to do? He's not perfect. There's some stuff that I disagree with, actually, there's a lot of stuff I disagree with. But the safety, the American people, the mothers, the fathers that are now twenty percent safer that their kids not gonna get murdered in a democratic city

• 43:43Speaker 03

  because your governor and your mayor are trash. And they're not doing nothing. All they're worrying about is their image and their future election. Well, guess what? I'm happy for it, and that's just another W for Trump. Keep them coming.

• 43:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, I'm gonna come to you next. Great point, Tom, where are you at with this?

• 43:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Um, the, it, I kinda just echo the point I just made. And um, that's, I think that's, that's where I am.

• 44:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I was gonna go to Adam, I'm sorry, Tom. Adam, where are you at with this?

• 44:10Adam Sosnick?

  Look at Tom, typical guy, stealing my thunder, Tom. I'm just kidding, Tom. We're good. Uh, yeah, you guys said it, so I'll just be quick. Trump is the law and order president. Pat, you're absolutely right. Uh, a parent, their first thing is safety and security. It was just Christmas. Happy Merry Christmas, everybody. I hung out with my nephew yesterday. Usually when I hang out with my nephew, it's two hours, it's three hours. Last night, we did the first sleepover. I said, what's up? You're gonna come over? We're gonna play basketball. We're gonna do a sports day. You're gonna sleep over? He's with me here at the office, shooting hoops. Hopefully not laying too many bricks. He's in the, he's in the gym right now. But there was a different wiring in my head yesterday. When we're walking all over Miami, there's a car coming. Hey Rory, come over here.

• 44:52Adam Sosnick?

  Hey, what's going on? Crosses, just when you become a parent, even if it's for 24 hours, there's something different that goes on in your mind versus, yeah, I'm the cool uncle. I pop in and out. So I felt that, that fatherly or parental, uh, calling and, and, and that is the number one thing. So number one, respect to Trump for making these numbers move. Respect the police. Turns out we do want to fund the police, not defund the police. We want to respect our military. We want to respect ICE. We want to respect what they're doing, uh, with the National Guard. At the same time, let's give credit to governors and mayors in big blue cities. It's not just Trump. Sure, I'll give him the, the lead dog credit.

• 45:34Adam Sosnick?

  But if murders are down in New York City, 20%, 28% in Chicago, 28% in DC, uh, 19% in LA, 7% in New Orleans, good job of the leadership there. I, I'd rather it go down and give them credit than it go up and play blame.

• 45:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Great. Let's, let's hash that out. Let's debate that. Okay. How come that didn't happen last year? Well, just, just think about this question. It's a very, very important thing. Normally in a family, I read, I, I posted this story the other day on Twitter. And I want to read the story to you. It was a Christmas story and it's gonna come back to what Adam just said. And Adam, I want you to rebuttal to what I'm gonna say and give you an argument because I do understand where you're going with this. Here's a story for you folks. Every year grandma insisted on hanging the last ornament herself when they were putting up the tree. It was a small cracked glass bell. Nothing fancy.

• 46:30Patrick Bet-David?

  One Christmas, she didn't make it to the tree. The family argued over who would hang it. Old wounds resurfaced. Old resentment came back like ghosts and tinsel. Finally, the youngest grandchild climbed the chair and placed the bill near the top. Inside, it was a folded note no one had ever seen. It read, "When I'm gone," because she's dead at this point, "don't fight over me. Love louder, forgive faster, I'll be right here." That year, the tree felt fuller than it ever had. Every family has certain pains and scars that seem to be impossible to cure.

• 47:12Patrick Bet-David?

  And they just may be, but can still do our best to love. God knows most people are not lacking another iPhone, or car, or jewelry. Nothing's above love. What's the moral of the story here? What if that grandma didn't write that note? You think that family still is united? Do you think the grandma not writing that note, do you think the bickering would have stopped or gotten worse? What if that grandma didn't put that together? What's the moral of the story? The person up top either makes things safer, more reckless, the grandfather that holds the family together, who is maybe not liked all the time. Maybe he's feared a little bit. Maybe he's respected.

• 47:56Patrick Bet-David?

  They love him, but there's a little bit of fear, like there's a line you can't cross with this individual. Right? Typically, like at gatherings, everybody that just wants to be chill, they'll kind of go away from that alpha personality, that person that's kind of protecting everybody. And they'll go just say, man, let's just kind of relax. Because that person, when he puts his foot down, everybody stops. Do you really think if Biden, here's a question, Adam. Do you really think if Biden was the president this year, that the crime rate would be down 20%, murders would be down 20%? That's the question, Adam.

• 48:25Adam Sosnick?

  No, not at all. Biden is one of the weakest guys we've ever seen. In fact, during COVID, people absolutely lost their mind. So if we're going to say, put any of this on Biden, I'm not going to give Biden any credit for any of this. But yeah, listen, arguably, I might be the biggest Trump fan on this podcast at this point. I mean, I love what he's doing, and I get it from the left and the right.

• 48:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know what point I'm making? It starts with leadership. If there isn't that one person up top that everybody fears respects. And maybe it doesn't even matter if you like him or love him. But if there's somebody up top that you fear and respect. Those communities like, listen. This is the worst time to be a criminal. Mm hmm. This is the worst time to be a drug dealer selling cocaine in America. This is the worst time trying to bring drugs or cocaine to America from Venezuela. This is the worst time to be smuggling cocaine and drugs on a boat. This is the worst, guess what was the best time? The last four years was awesome for crime. Mm hmm. The last four years was awesome from coyotes. Do you know all those coyotes that were smuggling and bringing kids over the border?

• 49:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Business was awesome for coyotes. How's business this year? Sucks. They're making no money. So that that is the power of having somebody that's feared and respected. And he's providing that, and I think it's very important. Do I think the governors also get some credit and the mayors? Yes, why? Because someone's done this. You know this light that I have here? You know, these lights that we all have that we're doing our, you got, you know, you know which one I'm talking about? Yeah. Someone's taken this and gone like this on every city. Hey, DC, boom, show the stats. Yep. Hey, Baltimore, boom, oh shit, Steph. Hey, Chicago, boom, here's a stat. Someone's putting light on it that they were not doing the last four years. And once somebody puts light on it, you better get that number fixed or else, right?

• 50:15Patrick Bet-David?

  We all know what data can do to all of us. Anyways, okay, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is California Gavin Newsom. And yeah, I'm going to come to you with this one here. So California Gavin Newsom.

• 50:28Patrick Bet-David?

  One of the stories we have on this is what page is the Gavin Newsom story on? Pa, pa, pa, pa, pa.

• 50:35Patrick Bet-David?

  There was a story on Gavin Newsom that we had California I wanted to go to. Okay, well, until I find that.

• 50:42Adam Sosnick?

  Was that the one about failing grades for Newsom?

• 50:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Failing grades for Newsom?

• 50:46Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, I believe that's page 11.

• 50:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, page 11, 12, yeah. Failing grades for Newsom from his own state auditor. What do you mean failing grade from Newsom from his own state auditor? Hmm. Well, his own state auditor wouldn't give him an F, right? Because he's got to make him look good. Where apparently, these are not good things that just came in. So let me read this to you. California's nonpartisan auditor, auditor. Keyword is what? Nonpartisan auditor. Yes. Just failed eight state agencies run by Governor Newsom, sending a clear message to residents, your state is broken. The auditor's new report identifies the eight high-risk agencies that not only exhibit serious waste, fraud, and abuse, or mismanagement, but also have failed to take adequate corrective

• 51:30Patrick Bet-David?

  actions. Four of these eight agencies attained this dubious distinction during Newsom's term, including the Social Services Department, which was added this year. The report found, for example, that massive payment errors, rates in the delivery of food assistance benefits could cost the state two and a half billion dollars in state funds. It also discovered that fraud and improper payments for unemployment benefits continue to cost the state billions. The report added that inadequate eligibility determinations for Medi-Cal, it put billions more at risk. And it noted that California's six straight missed financial reporting deadlines have put the state's credit rating and federal funding in jeopardy. There's more. The auditor noted that state's information technology projects

• 52:15Patrick Bet-David?

  languish for months or years as department uses antiquated systems. Despite Silicon Valley being a stone's throw away, and alarmingly, most state entities continue to fall short of minimum standards for information security. The security of physical infrastructure to its cost for grade concerned 49 dams. Ready? Forty-nine dams. Post, an extremely high hazard to life and property.

• 52:43Patrick Bet-David?

  With the number of dams rated poor or unsatisfactory increasing by seventy-three percent over the last two years, another revealing example involved the California Air Surface Board, which continued paying one of its employees a hundred seventy-one-thousand, four-hundred forty-six-dollar salary fifteen months after the employee had left the agency. Beyond this latest report, the staggering waste and efficiency of California government is unmatched. The state has spent eighteen billion dollars so far of an eventual hundred-and-twenty-eight billion dollar on a high-speed train, yet has laid no tracks for the last eighteen years. None. They've spent eighteen billion, but not a single track has been laid. And another audit found that the twenty-four billion dollars on homelessness and lost track of

• 53:28Patrick Bet-David?

  the funds with homelessness soared. Nobody knows where twenty-four... California, guess what? You paid for all of this. Congratulations to you. And nothing happened with it. Vinny, I'm gonna come to you first. Your thoughts?

• 53:39Speaker 03

  That's such a... What a great opening for... I wanted to... I was waiting for you to say, ladies and gentlemen, the two thousand twenty-eight Democratic presidential nominee. That's what you guys want, and that's what you're gonna get. He's the favorite on Calci and Polly Market. Good for you guys. And guess what? They're gonna vote because anything that doesn't have anything to do with Trump or the administration, J.D. Vance, any of them, the Nazi Hitler, guess what? They're anti-winning, Pat. They're allergic to winning, okay? And then, are you guys noticing a trend? All this scam bother, his new name is Gavin Newscam, because him... Oh, look at all these Democratic cities. Look at Minnesota, look at Minne... What is going on? And everybody's wondering why everybody's broke and the country's

• 54:24Speaker 03

  struggling. Pat, seventy billion dollars. Can everybody take a timeout and let that hit? Because nowadays, you hear five billion, ten million, nobody really thinks about it. Seventy billion. And because of him, Pat, notice how he's been quiet, guys, because all these stories are coming out. He's not doing the, you know, his dances and his podcast. He's kind of shut up for a minute. I was doing a little research, Pat. Did you hear about the Genesis Plan? It was a California Medicaid scheme tied to massive federal money abuse under Gavin, starting in 2022. So check this out. They raised ambulance reimbursement rates by 300 to 500%. Rates jumped from $339 to high as $1600 per one ride in the ambulance, okay?

• 55:07Speaker 03

  So the local hospitals and counties were required to send the inflated amounts to the state through intergovernmental transfers. The state then requested federal matching funds, usually around 50%. So then after receiving the federal money, California paid private ambulance companies the original lower cost. This is all under Gavin Newsom. And then, Pat, the state kept the difference between the inflated rate and the real cost. I mean, it's brilliant if you think about it. So investigators say taxpayer money from across the country was funneled to prop up California's budget. That's why he's always bragging. He's always bragging about the numbers. And it's one of the most convoluted and dishonest taxpayer frauds uncovered in modern medical finance reviews, Pat.

• 55:51Speaker 03

  Billions, siphon, and this is the resume of the future of the Democratic Party. And I'm gonna finish with this. For all these past 10 years, okay? Why we always wonder now, what, how does a Mom Donnie, guys? How does a Mom Donnie get elected? How was AOC beating J.D. Vance in some of these polls? And how, this is what you guys have to offer? Because for 10 years, all you've done is focus on Batman, Hitler, orange guy. They have no policies. They steal all this freaking money and they have no plans. No nothing. It's just sucking the money dry, making themselves rich and looking good, and to pay for the gel in Gavin Newsom's hair, Pat. And I'm happy that they're all getting exposed.

• 56:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, where you at with this? By the way, great commentary. Where you at, Tom?

• 56:35Tom Ellsworth?

  We, we talked about this.

• 56:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Two weeks ago, when the Minnesota fraud was only, what, six? Now it's 9.2, what I saw this morning. Yeah, yeah. So it's about to be double-digit billions in Minnesota. And there were analysts out there, neutral analysts, were saying, look at the population of Minnesota. Look at what they were doing. California is doing some of the same things. You know what that means? If there's similar fraud in California, buckle up, because the number is going to be stratospheric. And remember, Democrats were even commenting on the 2 billion in Minnesota. Well, you know, we have to do something here. There's 2 billion in fraud. Yes, there has to do it. So people were out there trying to position themselves for success. And analysts were saying, look, it's going to be far bigger than that. When you get to California, it's going to be even worse.

• 57:21Tom Ellsworth?

  This is a state that has just skimmed off itself, which you just heard Vinnie talk about. Oh, this price you pay, this price we pay. Hey, we're the state. We'll keep something in the middle. You know, good grief, it's socialism has come all the way down to, you know, the, the medical, the, the medical services that they're trying to, to provide to the people. You know, that just, that's just, to me, it's, it's incredible. It's nothing like what's in Minnesota. It's six times worse. And that's just what they're talking about, 68 billion. And then 128 on the, on the train and 18 is gone? Where did the 18 go? It went to studies. It went to political hacks. It went to elections, talking about the train. It went to an architecture firm.

• 58:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Now, wait a minute. The architecture firm apparently did some actual work in talking about the planning, where it had to go, and where it'll be next to farmland, and going by bridges. That's actual work to build a plan. So as long as on the government dole, it wasn't like $3 billion for the plan. But at least there was something there. This is catastrophic. And Gavin Newsom is just moving it on out. But let me tell you something. You know who paid for this? The American taxpayer. Because the states get relief from the federal government when they run into issues. And they hide behind disaster areas. So all the fires and the federal money that came in on the fires,

• 58:46Tom Ellsworth?

  there was no money in the first place for the fires, because they were bankrupt and the reservoirs were dry. This is the sixth-largest economy in the world that is being run like, and I'm going to get in trouble here, like frickin' Haiti under Baby Doc.

• 59:03Speaker 05

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• 59:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, where are you at with this?

• 59:35Adam Sosnick?

  Well, California needs a Doge or something to figure out where the hell this money is going. It's so incredible. PBD, I remember when you did a breakdown between Disneyland in California versus Disney World in Florida at the height of COVID. And it was just so shocking to see the glaring differences between a well-run state and a state that's just missing billions spent on whatever that doesn't do it, doesn't do anything. Florida, low taxes, limited regulation, budget surplus, net positive migration, safer community. California, the exact opposite. High taxes, 13% from the top tax bracket, heavy regulation. We heard how long it takes to just even build a bathroom outside of a mall or anything like that.

• 1:00:20Adam Sosnick?

  The deficit is plummeting, dangerous, homelessness, crime, net migration negative. But this is what California is. So guys, the waters are fine here in Florida. Come on down. I know a lot of people are ready to leave California. They're going to Texas, they're going to Nevada, some people are going to Florida. But at what point are we going to say Gadsman Newsom is just not a good leader? But he's going to be the most likely candidate for the Democratic Party in 2028. We'll see.

• 1:00:51Speaker 03

  Pat, can I ask you a question though? How is it that he spent $24 billion to try to help homelessness? Nothing worked. Billions of dollars for this railway, they didn't lay one brick. How is that not criminal? And how is the people not saying, hey, wait a minute? We're spending all this money, you're taxing the hell out of us. Hollywood is finished, everybody's moving out. And you keep wanting us to vote and keep this blind loyalty to a party that is literally raping you guys for everything that you have, Pat. How is that not, Najaf? We know people that have stolen a hundred grand, fifty grand, and the law's coming after you. This is crazy. This is insanity. We're talking about fifty, seventy billion dollars? How's he not in jail?

• 1:01:35Patrick Bet-David?

  It's so true. I mean, we know people that steal a hundred thousand dollars and they're gonna end up having a misdemeanor and felony on the record for the rest of their lives. When they go applying for jobs, they're always gonna have to say, do you have a felony or misdemeanor? And that company does a background check, it's gonna say yes. But imagine at this level of a governor doing that. So as much as these numbers are gonna do, whatever they're gonna do, whoever's going against Newsom, the Republicans are kind of, you know, their messaging right now is not perfectly fine yet. Like, there are some issues, there are some, within the party, there are some real big wars going on. A lot of real wars, which we'll talk about here in a minute, I'm gonna get to the economy first. The Barry Weiss and Megyn Kelly and all the stuff that's going on, these are real issues that are taking place. But let me talk about the economy.

• 1:02:20Patrick Bet-David?

  So everybody was talking about the economy and affordability, which by the way, valid. We need to be considering what affordability means, in my opinion, to the eighteen to twenty-nine years old. We gotta get that part right, eighteen to twenty-nine years old. Because they're coming out of college and they have to go get a job, have a family, have kids. If they don't, they're not gonna wanna have kids. Our birth rate is gonna drop. But let me read this to you, and Tom, I'm coming to you first with this story. Trump boom. U.S. economy grows 4.3% fastest in two years, smashing expectations. The Commerce Department said U.S. domestic product The GDP, the government's official economic scoreboard, rose at a seasonally and inflation-adjusted 4.3% annual rate in the third quarter. The report on the July

• 1:03:05Patrick Bet-David?

  through September period was delayed due to the shutdown. Today's blockbuster expectation, smashing GDP record, report is the latest proof that President Trump's America-first trade and economic agenda continues to turn the page on the Biden economic disaster. American consumers are spending and American exports are surging. White House spokesman Khash Desai said President Trump built the greatest economy in the world in his first term, and he's in the process of doing the same thing all over again. Americans can count on benefiting from a historic economic boom in 2026. Gross domestic product is a broad measure of the goods and services produced across the economy. Economists had expected the economy to grow at 3.2% after the second quarter's 3.8% growth prior

• 1:03:48Patrick Bet-David?

  to the inflation adjustment, and economic rate at an 8.2% rate, real financial sale, final sales to private domestic purchasers, a slice of GDP that some economists view as a clear measure of a health of the private sector, grew at 3% annual rate, up from 3% in the second quarter. This suggests that demands from consumers and businesses remained strong and gathered a bit steam over the summer. Tom, thoughts on this?

• 1:04:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I'll tell you there's some good news here. You know what the good news here? Hidden in what you just said, not really hidden, but it's among the list that you just read, exports are up. Whoa, exports are up. Who's selling to who? American companies are selling to others, to citizens of other countries, and are selling to companies in other countries. So when exports are up, that means there's more people for the US economy to sell to. And when you look at that, guess what that... That means, that means the tariffs weren't inflationary, the tariffs were, guess what? A crack in the door. At the beginning of the year, I made a prediction and I said that tariffs

• 1:04:57Tom Ellsworth?

  will be more tactics than they will be taxes. And that came true. The inflation did not go up. And the economists are, hey, you know what? The, the, uh, the economy actually went up. The inflation didn't jump up on, on the tariffs. That's right. Cause they were tactics to open markets wider to the American business. And that's exactly what leadership did. And I'm not sitting here saying everything is perfect, but I'm saying that the GDP growing faster, and then you read in there that exports are up, you go, wait a minute, tariffs are working. The other guy turned his tariffs down, opened the doors for US business. That is good. The other thing is that the American consumer is spending. And there was also a correlated

• 1:05:37Tom Ellsworth?

  analysis here, Pat, was economists right now are saying that the chance of a recession next year is dropping. And if you look at things like prediction markets, I think there was something on Calci recently, said they thought there's only like a 23 toward for, not they, but the collection of people that are putting their opinions out on Calci consolidated was 23% chance of a recession next year. Oh, wait a minute, inflation's going to be terrible. The sky's going to be falling. We're going to have recession next year. That was the Democrat narrative. And I think the White House, just like on crime, needs to make the point here. You have a job because your company shipped things to consumers overseas. Your job and

• 1:06:19Tom Ellsworth?

  your raise was tied to that. And Americans are buying more. This is a good sign of progress, but we gotta keep the hammer down on it.

• 1:06:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Good feedback. Uh, Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:06:30Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, exactly. Uh, Tom nailed it on the head here. The chances of a recession, I believe, just came out in Calci. I said that to you, Humberto. Uh, next year in, uh, 2026, I've now reached an all time low of 25%. So congratulations to Howard Lutnick, to Trump, to everyone that's basically working on the economy, um, from the even Fed chair down. Uh, and we know how Trump feels about Jerome Powell. But, uh, this is, I don't know if this is considered dynamic growth, but this is strong. This is a strong indicator of where we're headed for 2026. I know PBD, you've said 2026, get ready for the greatest year of our lives. We're all expecting it. What I would love to see this trickle down to, from this macro sense, is to personal GDP.

• 1:07:12Adam Sosnick?

  To real wages growing, to your savings rate going, to your debt going down, to becoming, to go from a debt to a saver to an investor. It's no secret, you can't save your way to becoming a millionaire. But if you just take a little slice of the American dream, and you believe in capitalism, and you start your 401K, you get out of debt, you start your Roth IRA, you actually participate in the American dream, invest in the American economy, good things are gonna happen to you. Save that money, invest that money, be a part of the American dream.

• 1:07:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Love it. I'm gonna go to a story by Logan Paul about saving that money. Logan Paul comes out, YouTuber, and Adam, I'm gonna come to you with this one here. YouTuber Logan Paul causes steer. What's the big deal here? But watch this. As he gives financial advice to Gen Z's live on air. So let's see what this financial advice is, on what he says that's causing so many people to be upset with this guy. He, uh, his opinions on, uh, to Gen Z on live television and urging them to take bigger risks. The YouTuber start 30 years old, push the younger generation to spend their energy in meaningful ways, even if they appear to go against the grain. I think if you have the money, don't be afraid to take a risk, especially if you're young.

• 1:08:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Paul said on Tuesday on Fox Business Networks with Big Money Show. Paul is currently worth $150 million. He's best known for his content on YouTube, TikTok, but also known for Prime Energy Drink brand, and has appeared as a WWE marquee wrestler. If you're young, there are ways to spend and invest your money in ways that might mean more to you than a traditional conservative investment, like the stock market. That could mean trading cards, artwork, sports memorabilia, like game worn jersey attire, or even a piece of a dinosaur. His investment tips causes division on social media as users debated whether Paul's advice was prudent or irresponsible. By the way, do we have a video on this, on what he was saying, Humberto, or no? Is there a video there? If you do have it, let me know. Risk is fine, but Gen Z needs transparency and fundamentals.

• 1:09:12Patrick Bet-David?

  One ex-user wrote, "Not celebrity investing advice." Another weighed in, "True, take the risk." Paul told Gen Z they should remain wary of their investment, even as they looked to beat the stock market. "You gotta be careful with what you're investing in," he said, "or trade out of it." The celebrity entrepreneur's remarks came as he admitted to having a world record $5.3 million for a single Pokémon card. If you can't buy a home, you sure as hell can't be investing in Pokémon cards. Another ex-user said, "Get a Roth IRA before you go out and get Pokémon." This is ridiculous. Is this the clip, by the way? Yeah. Humberto, is this the clip? Go on and play the clip. Let's watch a couple, a few seconds of it. Go ahead, Rob. Go ahead, Humberto.

• 1:09:54Speaker 08

  Way to make money that's an alternative. Maybe it's not buying a home anymore. Maybe it's not the traditional stock market. What do you tell that group of young investors out there?

• 1:10:03Speaker 09

  I think if you have the money, don't be afraid to take a risk, especially if you're young. Young people have a ton of energy. I had a lot of energy when I was younger. I'm 30 now, and I'm an uncle, and I have a daughter. I'm a dad, and so I have way less energy. But if you're young, there are ways to spend and invest your money in ways that might mean more to you than a traditional conservative investment like the stock market, whether it's a trading card, a piece of art, a piece of a dinosaur, like a sports memorabilia game.

• 1:10:39Patrick Bet-David?

  But so, Adam, where are you at with what Logan Paul is saying here?

• 1:10:43Adam Sosnick?

  Well, listen, don't take advice from anybody that hasn't done it. And Logan Paul has done it. You know, you can criticize the guy all you want, he's this, he's that. The guy's worth over $100 million by the age of 30. Unheard of. So the guy talked about risk. Now, listen, the bigger the risk, the bigger the reward. So everyone who's young should understand what risk tolerance is, asset allocation, what you're investing in and your time horizon. These are basic fundamentals of finance. I gotta give the Paul brothers credit for betting on themselves when they were teenagers and say, listen, let's risk it for the biscuit. And if we can turn out to be these massive influencers or boxers or celebrity boxers or WWE champions, whatever it ends up being, let's go for it.

• 1:11:28Adam Sosnick?

  And worst case scenario, you're 25 and you just start a real career or you're 30 and you're starting over, especially for young men. Young men see what's going on in society. They see the Jake Pauls of the world, the Logan Pauls of the world, all these celebrities that are making all this money. There's a few and far between, but if you bet on yourself, take the risk, you'll be 25, 30 and you still have tons of time. So would I say that the number one thing you should do is go out and get a Pokemon card? No, go out and get a Roth IRA, go out and get a 401k, save that cash, stack that money, save that money. But once you do that and you have a foundation, sure, take a little bit of risk. And by the way, last point, it's not just risking money. You also go risking time. There's something called ROI, return on your investment.

• 1:12:12Adam Sosnick?

  There's something called ROT, return on your time. So you can do both. If you don't have money, dedicate your time. So you can do, you can do it either way, but at the end of the day, save that money.

• 1:12:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, I have a lot of thoughts on this here, but I'm going to come to you first, Tom.

• 1:12:27Tom Ellsworth?

  I happen to think that, that, look, Logan Paul's talking about two things. One is classic investment theory. You can make mistakes when you're younger that you can't afford to make when you're older. You've got time. So he is, that is a time tested true. If you would look at modern portfolio theory and people just look that up, it'll tell you, hey, take your age, take a hundred minus your age is the percent you could have in stocks. There's a lot of techniques. So there's a core thing he's right about. I'm not going to weigh in on collectibles or this or that because one person's expertise isn't necessarily the whole world's expertise. A lot of people jumped in on Bitcoin that didn't know what they were doing and they tried to trade in and out rather than hold and wait for gains and they get scared by

• 1:13:12Tom Ellsworth?

  the news and then they're sideways. And so, you know, in terms of asset classes, you know, I'm not really there with Logan Paul, but what I am with is the philosophy of you can make mistakes when you're young, but we shouldn't teach our people to be impulsive or foolish with their decisions and their

• 1:13:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Tom, great feedback and I love the fact that there's opposite ideas here. Here's what I would tell you. The best way to find out what the risk tolerance of your kids are between ages of 10 to 17 years old is play Monopoly with them. You will learn after three hours which one of your kids likes cash and is afraid to take risks, which one of them takes risks. And by the way, don't teach them anything, just test them out. You'll see, you'll say, oh, wow, this kid is super risky. I'll buy this, I'll buy that property from you, I'll buy this property, I'll buy this, let's trade this. No one's talking, buy, buy, buy.

• 1:14:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Boom, all of a sudden they land on someone's hotel, bankruptcy, they're out of business. Or they go to a hotel, they get that $500, that's now $800, they build hotels and next year they dominate and destroy everybody. Everyone has a certain risk tolerance and temperament. My dad is unbelievably conservative, unbelievably conservative when it comes down to his investments. Everything is cash. I don't think the man has ever owned a house. My dad has never owned a house ever. He's 83 years old.

• 1:14:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 1:14:45Patrick Bet-David?

  He's never owned a stock, he's never owned a life insurance policy, he's never owned a Roth IRA, he's never owned anything like that he's never owned. And by the way, He's had his driver's license here since 1984. One time a cop pulled him over. He got so upset at the cop for pulling him over. He says, "You cannot pull me over." He says, "What do you mean, sir? I'm pulling you over." He says, "I've never broken the law." My dad doesn't have a single speeding ticket or a ticket period red light since 1984, when he got his driver's license. Now, his son on the other side,

• 1:15:18Patrick Bet-David?

  he's got 25 speeding tickets. My license was suspended twice in my early twenties. I don't know how many red light tickets I got. It's very different. So now, my sons, when we drive. One of my sons is like, "Dad, step on it, step on it." And my other son's like, "Dad, speed limit. You're going above 35." So, no, a part of that is you. A part of it isn't. You can force it. You can increase a little bit of your risk tolerance or not. Here's where I'm at. I went so aggressive in my early twenties that I found myself being $49,000 in credit card debt at 24 years old, 25 years old, with Ford, Galpin Ford, trying to come and find my Ford Expedition, because I would park it a mile away, because I had to make a car payment for three months, because I lost everything.

• 1:16:03Patrick Bet-David?

  And I would make phone payments on Nextel, $43 payments, because that's all I had. And I would negotiate with Nextel to turn on my 444 day, so I can sell stuff. Because I was a financial guy. I was an insurance guy. I needed my cellphone. And that's how I made it. I risked, and then eventually, it turned out to be a big return. I made the big art purchases or collectible cards and all that stuff that worked in my favor. I would say, like, yesterday, my son and I are talking, and I said, "Dad, when did you start liking stocks?" I said, "I'll never forget what happened to me." One time, I put $2,000 or some number like that, a small number, into a Nike stock at $27. He says, "What happened?" I said, "It went to $41." "No way." "Yes, and how long?" "Less than a year." I said, "I looked at my..."

• 1:16:49Patrick Bet-David?

  E-Trade Portfolio, this is back in the days. And I'm like, oh my god. The 2,000 turned into 3,200 dollars. I didn't work for this 1,200 dollars. This is sick. This is crazy. And so then, I said, this is some good stuff here. Then, one time, I'm 24, 25 years old. I'm at church. One of my guys that I recruited that used to sell Forex. He was a serious 3 license guy. He would sell futures and, you know, commodities. He goes on an appointment with another lady who is today with the chief scientist, I think, at IBM. Brilliant lady, lady named Solmas. They go on an appointment. She sells a 6,000 dollar target premium insurance policy.

• 1:17:34Patrick Bet-David?

  And my broker calls me and says, what did you do the last 2 hours? I said, I'm at church. She says, well, you just made 1,200 dollars. I said, no, you don't make money when you go to church. You lose money because you have to tie this.

• 1:17:45Patrick Bet-David?

  He said, no, no, no. You just made 1,200 dollars. I said, how? Remember when you introduced this person and this person? They both got licensed? Yes, well, they just sold this policy. And you as the one that has a spread, you made this much money? I said, no way. So I learned about investing and I learned about building a business of leveraging other people's efforts as well to work collectively together. So listen, what Logan Paul is saying. Jake Paul got interviewed the other day. They asked him, they said, who's richer? Jake said, I'm probably richer today. He says, but the day Prime sells, Logan's gonna be a lot richer than me. So today Jake is making money today. The other day he had the fight. Apparently he made 92 million dollars on that fight. And by the way, let me transition to the story that Rogan giving advice to Jake Paul.

• 1:18:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Humberto, get the Rogan clip, giving advice to Jake Paul. I want to share this clip. And I don't want to spend a lot of time on this, guys. Just like, you know, a couple minute thing to move on. But I think it was very good advice, like an uncle, fatherly advice Rogan's giving to Jake, which I'm sure Jake has already seen. And, uh, not sure if we'll take it or not, but Humberto, if you got the clip, pull it up. We'll just let Joe explain what he was saying about Jake Paul. I know you have the clip somewhere there. Go ahead, Rob, go ahead, Humberto.

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• 1:19:28Speaker 10

  He's got nothing but respect for me.

• 1:19:30Speaker 09

  Anthony Joshua's gigantic.

• 1:19:32Speaker 10

  So big.

• 1:19:32Speaker 09

  He's so big. He's so much bigger.

• 1:19:34Speaker 10

  Bro, he got hit with a bomb. Yeah. And breaks his jaw in two places. And he's fucked. His jaw's wired shut now. He lost teeth. Yeah. I think he went into that fight knowing that was probably going to happen. Yeah. And ultimately, the big win for him would be that he was even willing to do it. The thing is that I would hope that he recognizes is right now, he's doing great and he's only, whatever he is, 28. Don't do this very long because there, there, there's a price that you pay that is not worth it. Yeah. It's not worth it. And that price is depression, deep depression, a severe brain imbalance that's going to lead you to addiction. It leads so many people to impulsive behavior.

• 1:20:19Speaker 10

  So many people become gambling addicts, drug addicts, alcoholics after their fighting career. You could only take so much. And at a certain, like that one that he got from Joshua, ooh. You know, say if you have like a punch card, you have like so many punches that you can get in your life, which I believe you do. That one was like 10 punches. Yeah. That was like, yeah. It was, there was a lot of concussions in that one punch. Sure. That was real damage. Like if someone's breaking your jaw in two places, the inside of your fucking head.

• 1:20:47Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there.

• 1:20:48Speaker 10

  There's a lot of damage going on.

• 1:20:49Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, this is coming from a person, this is coming from a person who, this is coming from a person who is the probably biggest expert in this space, minus 50 other names that are actual guys that fought in the ring in UFC. And I'm talking about John Jones and Khabib and a couple of these other guys. But this is Joe's life and Joe's been a part of this and he was a fighter himself back in the days. Okay. This guy was a fighter back in the days. Him giving advice like this to.

• 1:21:20Speaker 10

  Now?

• 1:21:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, can you, yeah, Bishma, we can hear you, Vinny. So him giving advice like this to Jake, and by the way, keep in mind, Joe was a fighter. He stopped fighting because I think there was an accident or something happened to him where he, he experienced some kind of a pain that happened. It was like, you know what? I don't know if my body can take this for too long. And then what happened to Joe, number one podcaster in the world, in God knows how many countries is number one. It's not like it's just America, all over the world. Joe's gonna be a billionaire. I guesstimate Joe will be a billionaire probably within the next 18 to 36 months. Joe will be a billionaire, just same way I said three years ago, four years ago, that Elon Musk will be a trillionaire. In the next three years, and at the time he was worth 50 billion, everybody was saying, you're out of your mind, you're crazy.

• 1:22:07Patrick Bet-David?

  And now he's, he is a trillionaire, he's gonna be a trillionaire in 2026. I think Joe will be a billionaire in the next 18 to 36 months. And I think Jake Paul is a very, very talented, capable guy. He knows how to shine on camera, he know how to entertain, he is competitive, he is funny. I think he has many different ways of making money. I just don't think Jake's gonna listen, probably for another three to five years. I think Jake's gonna continue going for another three to five years. My guesstimation, I could be wrong, I'm not in the guy's head, I just support the guy. And I, I, I wish the guy nothing but the best, but I thought this was very good feedback from Joe to Jake Paul. Does anybody here have any thoughts on this? Tom or Adam, do you guys have any?

• 1:22:45Adam Sosnick?

  I have some thoughts on this.

• 1:22:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:22:47Adam Sosnick?

  So Jake Paul shouldn't listen to Rogan until it's too late. So do your thing, make your money now, but all it takes is one punch to completely ruin your life. Jake Paul has the luxury of maybe considering, maybe not. But the rest of the, the people that should be hearing this advice are two people. There's so many other fighters out there that are fighting for 10 grand to fight. And we've seen what happens to a lot of these people and a lot of them, you know, whether it's UFC, whether it's boxing, whether it's people in the UNFL, with the NFL, with the whole concussion protocol and what's the whole thing that AB allegedly had and a lot of players have had these brain injuries, CTE.

• 1:23:28Patrick Bet-David?

  CTE.

• 1:23:29Adam Sosnick?

  So, you know, when you're young, you think that you could live forever. Ever and you think that you're invincible until something happens. We also happened to Muhammad Ali. So there's a deeper story here is that life's a marathon, not a sprint. So whether it's fighting, whether it's your lifestyle, whether it's money, you're going to be 30, you're going to be 40, you're going to be 50 and PBD you snap your fingers boom. Just like that, you're going to be 60. Is your money going to be there for you at that age? And not only is your money going to be there, is your brain, is your capacity, is your will? And is everything functioning at that point? Or did you blow it all by the time you were 30? There's a bigger message here that Rogan's trying to convey for young people and for Jake Paul.

• 1:24:06Speaker 03

  Can you, can you guys hear me, Pat?

• 1:24:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, Benny, go for it.

• 1:24:08Speaker 03

  So I, I, I couldn't hear the clip because of the, the, the stream, but from what I'm understanding, did Joe, did Joe tell him like to be careful with the?

• 1:24:17Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, don't get knocked out too much, exactly.

• 1:24:18Speaker 03

  So and then we talked, then we talked about this the day after the fight. Is that 96 million or whatever worth you having brain damage for the rest of your life? And this is the thing that this is to me, besides the Tyson Fury's brother. This is, you're going up against a real fighter. This guy, if that boxer punches you in the face in the street, that's assault with a deadly weapon. He's a trained, like that's a killer. This is a, a weapon. So is it worth the money? I don't think any money is, is worth, Pat, the brain. Like we talked about this when I first came to VT, which somebody asked me, would you take the vaccine? Covid vaccine for a hundred billion dollars? And I said, give me a billion. I'm not putting that poison in my body. So that's it.

• 1:25:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you, you know, it, it's, it's a good point that's being made. By the way, the, the best way why this advice is sound for Jake is for the following reason. How many fighters do you know that you put them in front of camera, they're just boring? How many fighters do you know that they don't know how to promote? Like for example, do you think Connor can do things outside of, uh, you know, UFC? Do you think Connor can do things outside of UFC and win? Yeah, he can act, he can do a show, he can promote. Do you think Khabib has the same amount of talent outside of UFC?

• 1:25:31Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 1:25:31Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not. I've had him on, I, we had him at our, at our event. We had a very good time. One of my funniest conversations backstage with him for 30 minutes. The guy is funny on a one-on-one basis and really enjoyed him. But Jake actually is multifaceted talent that he can choose to stop if he wants to. I just don't think he is because he's a bit of a rebel and he's going to do whatever he wants to do. But I'd like to see Jake around at 80 years old. I think Jake's got a big upside and I'd like to see what he's going to be doing. I'm gonna get to the next story here. Next story I want to get to is Minnesota. Okay, let's go to Minnesota, you know, what's going on? I just lost Pat. What happened? Tom. Vinny, I can't hear you. I just lost Pat. Can you hear me or no?

• 1:26:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let me just go with this. So I'm gonna go to

• 1:26:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I'm not gonna go to the Minnesota story right now because I'm gonna have to show the clip. Trump lashes out on Stephen Colbert urges CBS to put him to sleep. Okay, that's pretty strong words, put him to sleep. Humberto, do you have a clip on that story with Trump and Stephen Colbert? From CBS, if you have that, do me a favor, you find out. I'm gonna read the story because I think there is a clip on that. So President Trump went off on late night host Stephen Colbert Tuesday night calling him a dead man walking. And urging CBS to put him to sleep in a midnight Truth Social post by the president. He dragged the late show host. As a pathetic train wreck who is running on hatred and fumes.

• 1:27:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Stephen Colbert is a pathetic train wreck with no talent or anything else. Necessary for show business success now after being terminated by CBS. But left out to dry, he has actually gotten worse. Along with his non-existent rating, Trump wrote, Stephen is running on hatred and fumes. A dead man walking, CBS should put him to sleep now is the humanitarian thing. That is a humanitarian thing to do shortly after the message. To Colbert and CBS, Trump followed up with a broader warning to late night show hosts that are almost 100% negative to Trump, MAGA and the Republican Party. If network newscasts and their late night shows are almost 100% negative to President Donald J. Trump, MAGA and the Republican Party. Shouldn't their very valuable broadcast licenses be terminated?

• 1:27:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I say yes, he said this on Truth Social. All right, Tom, I'm coming to you first. Your thoughts on this?

• 1:27:55Tom Ellsworth?

  So I think it's one thing to point out like a media criticism. It's quite another thing to go kind of get a little close to the edge. And I think at times this criticism gets close to the edge. Here's why it worries me. The anti-Trump movement that is in the government. If something happens at midterms or they gain a little bit of power, they're going to come back the other way. With now we don't have freedom of speech. We have implied censorship or or individual selective censorship. At by whoever's in power. Whoever's in power says, you know, that Colbert guy, they should put that guy to sleep. Oh, here it comes. Well, now somebody else comes in, they're going to say, you know what? I don't like PBD and that team. You know, they start in the middle, but they're kind of conservative. You know what?

• 1:28:39Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't like what they're saying about California and I'm Gavin Newsom and whoops, I'm president. Guess what? I think it's going to come back the other way. It's one thing for Trump to say, hey, you know what? I am not a fan of Stephen Colbert. I am not a fan of the things he says. And by the way, he was so wrong on vaccination. How how did that little dancing syringes age? Gosh, you know, I'm, you know, I'm just, I'm just not a fan. It's one thing for a leader to say that and have an honest opinion. It's another thing for take that guy off the air. And then the other way, going back and looking at other things and saying, hey, let's do this or do that. I just think they got to be really careful here because the pendulum swings both ways. And now what do you do?

• 1:29:21Tom Ellsworth?

  If you just wait for whoever's in power and then the American people lose the ability. Remember, freedom of speech means that the citizen gets to listen to both sides and vote.

• 1:29:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I like I like what you're saying there, Tom. And and the reality of it is, you know, my opinion on what Trump's going to have to do in 2028 in the month of October. Trump's going to have to. The reason why Trump is speaking so aggressively right now is because he's going to self pardon himself in October of 2028. I think he's going to self pardon himself. I think he's going to pardon everybody in his administration. I think this is going to be a new playbook that every president does moving forward. Because it gives them a blanket, you know, immunity against being able to say stuff like this. You can't say stuff like this. You can't say put him to sleep. You can't say, you know, take him off the air.

• 1:30:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't say stuff like this. Because what you're doing is, you know, you're, you're opening it up in four years. You're, you're, you can only speak like this if you know you're gonna be there for 40 years. And you're not. You're only there for three years. So guess who this is gonna hurt in three years? In three years, when somebody else gets elected, let's just say Newsom is in, or somebody else, AOC is in. Or, or one of those guys comes in and they win. You don't think they're gonna come after everybody? I don't wanna, you know, just say, repeat the same thing you're saying. All I'm saying is, think long term. Call them out with data, like when I was talking earlier with the light. Show the fact that 98% of their guests are liberal.

• 1:31:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Highlight it, and everybody's like, oh my God, I never knew about that. Highlight the fact that Stephen Colbert is so one-sided and never has Republican guests. And if they do, it's Liz Cheney who hates Trump. Talk about that kinda stuff. But I, I don't know if I like the strategy on what he's doing and what he's saying. But Vinnie, I'll come to you next. Your thoughts on what he said about Jimmy, about Stephen Colbert in a minute. I'm gonna show you guys what Jimmy Kimmel said in the video. And so, Vinnie, I may even show it now, now you can react. Yeah, time. Show, show, show Kimmel first. Humberto, if you have that clip of what Jimmy Kimmel said, the video clip on Twitter, uh, or X, if you can play that clip, because this is Jimmy Kimmel on Christmas, talking to the world. He's talking, I think, a little bit about UK, and saying, hey, here's what America's going through. We're acting a little bit weird, just be patient with us.

• 1:31:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And, watch this, watch this, go for it.

• 1:31:52Speaker 11

  I honestly have no idea what's going on over there. I do know what's going on over here, though. And I can tell you that, from a fascism perspective, this has been a really great year. Tyranny is booming over here. You may have read in your colorful newspapers, my country's president would like to shut me up because I don't adore him in the way he likes to be adored. The American government made a threat against me and the company I work for. And all of a sudden, we're off the air. And because so many people spoke out, we came back. Our show came back stronger than ever. We won, the president lost, and now I'm back on the air every night. We are not right. We're Americans. No one knows better than you.

• 1:32:37Speaker 11

  We're always just a little bit late to the game. But do we come through in the end?

• 1:32:43Speaker 11

  Maybe. Give us about three years, please. Thank you for your patience and thank you for Spider-Man. Merry Christmas and happy holidays.

• 1:32:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that video, the message that he's given, and Vinny, I know you've seen this clip, Vinny yourself. I want to come to you with this one here, Umberto, if you can go to Vinny. Vinny, when you're seeing this, him give that message, and then the president going after Stephen Colbert. What progress do you see is happening here? You think this is the right move?

• 1:33:13Speaker 03

  Well, first of all, Pat, Jimmy Kimmel, how much of a whining, crying? You made tens of millions of dollars, okay? Your ratings suck, okay? You got taken off the air, not because Donald Trump said, "Hey, I don't want people saying mean things about me." Everybody's been saying mean things about him forever. That's why their numbers suck, Pat. They've been hemorrhaging money forever. But we know why they keep them on the air, because the donors, they don't care that they're losing money. They just want Batman, Orgy Man, Hitler Man, Doug. So for him to go to the UK, go live, and trash us and trash our country?

• 1:33:55Speaker 03

  You're in a country, Jimmy, where if you post negative things on people on social media, the cops come to your house and arrest you in the UK, okay? In Germany, a girl got raped by, what, 11 guys? And somebody went on social media after the raper and said, "Hey, you're a jerk and I hope God does whatever to you." That girl did more prison time than the guy that was raping the 11-year-old girl. So enough with Jimmy Kimmel, Pat. I cannot wait for the end of 2026, when we don't have to hear this guy anymore. It's just constant, constant whining and crying. What a beta, female-type move to go to another country to bash our country. On the flip side, what he said?

• 1:34:41Speaker 03

  With Colbert, that type of dialogue, Pat, that type of "put him to sleep", and putting quotations, I get it. You know, Kravitz and all these freaking little, these little worms, they, they, they use anything to try to incite violence and stuff towards the Trump and our side. I don't think it's a good move, but again, Pat, this is President Trump. Nobody's gonna tell him what to do. I'm pretty sure whoever's the person typing the stuff from the post, they're not even saying anything. They're just like, whatever the president says, write it. I wish you had somebody to like, I wouldn't put the quotations and put, put him to sleep. Cause everybody knows what that means. Everybody knows what, what 86-47 means with James Comey in the sand. Trying to pretend like you don't think that we know what you're saying.

• 1:35:23Speaker 03

  I just think a little bit more, um, like he could step back, but you know, he is who he is. Adam, thoughts?

• 1:35:30Adam Sosnick?

  So let's just be clear, in America, we believe in free speech. Uh, I happen to be a free speech absolutist. Say what you wanna say, as long as it is not inciting violence, say what you gotta say. Uh, I mean, look at the clowns in the comment section right now. They could say what they wanna say, all good. We're grownups, we got thick skin. At the same time, America is the last great hope of the world. We see what's going on in the rest of the world. And you have the weak West, you see, you see what's going on in Canada, you see what's going on in limiting free speech in the UK. We see what's going on in Australia. And at the same time, you have these strong men in Putin and Xi and Kim Jong-un and the Ayatollah. You can't say shit. You'll end up missing. Even Georgia Maloney in Italy, remember that conversation she was having with Trump?

• 1:36:13Adam Sosnick?

  She's like, you deal with all these reporters on a daily basis? He's like, yeah, she's like, not in my country, buddy. So Trump deals with this non-stop for 10 years. Someone who was a darling of the media, darling of Hollywood, darling of the, uh, legacy TV, darling of hip-hop, now he's the most hated man in America, certainly the world. According to Americans. But, uh, I totally understand why Trump would say things like, they're the enemy of the people. Uh, I totally understand why he says, says things like they're running on hatred and fumes because they are. Dude, I rarely if ever watch late night. Sometimes I'll watch the daily show

• 1:36:54Adam Sosnick?

  and sometimes I'll watch a little mixture of Colbert, of Kimmel, of Fallon, just to see who's on, just to see who's on. Sometimes I'll even watch the number one show in late night, Greg Gutfeld, who I've said time and time again, number one show, least talented, least creative, number one show. There's a reason for it because I believe in free markets. People vote with their feet and with their eyes. But I happened to come across Colbert and I sent Humberto some pictures. Who do you think just showed up on Colbert? Not random, just a random day that I picked up his, basically twin Rachel Maddow shows up and I'm like, which one's which? Do you have that picture,

• 1:37:35Adam Sosnick?

  Humberto? So of course, imagine Meghan Kelly showing up on Colbert. Imagine Brett Baer. Imagine PBD. They won't have these people on. PBD, I believe you mentioned 98% of guests are liberals. Humberto, you got that picture yet? No, can't pull it up. But the point is they look exactly alike. And it's, is anybody shocked to see Rachel Maddow, basically making cocktails with Colbert? I totally understand Trump's frustration, but at the same time, free speech, free speech.

• 1:38:07Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not going to win long term. And here's what I mean. They're not going to win long term. You know, think about it. Remember when the whole October 7 thing happened? And right off the bat, it was such a sensitive topic and it was nasty. It divided the Republican Party. It was, it was just a confusing thing. Democrats were becoming Republicans. Bill Ackman, you know, he was giving all this money to Harvard. He's leaving because the way Harvard president, Columbia, wait a minute, you don't take care of Jews? And then next thing you know, the other argument was you can't make any comments about, you know, Jews or else and it's anti-Semitic. And then wait a minute, if we want to criticize, we should be able to do that as well. And then that led to, I'm, I'm, I'm just no war. I just don't want any war. No, you know, I'm in America

• 1:38:50Patrick Bet-David?

  first. I'm an American only. And everybody was filtering out these ideas. Everybody was filtering out the ideas and we're just listening and kind of giving our own opinions. And then you realize, after about some time, there's some logic and good points on both sides of the aisle. You know, if, if, if we for ourselves in America, I've, this, this Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert model is gonna go away. These guys are getting destroyed by podcasters and YouTubers. That model's gone. Why do you think the Oscars, just the, not the Oscars, if the Oscars announce it, it'll go on YouTube. You know why they're going on YouTube? No one's freaking watching it.

• 1:39:29Patrick Bet-David?

  No one's watching it and no one gives a shit for you to get up and give me climate change bullshit type of stuff. No one cares, you know? No one cares on all the fear point you wanna, you know, push down everybody's throat. And then by the way, this year, they finally had a, a podcaster award that they're giving away. I think Grammys had it, or one of the ones had it, not Grammys. One of the ones had the podcaster award. Guess who was not on that list? Joe Rogan wasn't on that list, not as a nominee. You, you, you, you're gonna give away a podcast award and not have Joe in the conversation? You've lost your, so this is so much credibility that they're losing and eventually the right ideas will win. Just for a period of time, they're gonna be criticized and some people will be confused.

• 1:40:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, maybe this, well, maybe that, take your time. The right argument will eventually be filtered out. Doesn't mean the other side's not gonna be around. Doesn't mean bots are not being paid behind closers. Doesn't mean other countries like Qatar, Israel, AIPAC, they're not gonna spend their money to get you to think the way they think. Doesn't mean China is not spending seventy hundred, two hundred million dollars in universities to get kids that are going to school to be teaching a certain course that these universities are teaching to teach a history that shows China as a better country, not as all these people that they killed. It doesn't mean all of these countries, including ourselves, are not gonna impose our philosophy on everybody else. You don't think we're, we're pitching capitalism to everybody? You don't think everybody's doing it? But guess what? The right argument is based on who's producing, producing the best result.

• 1:40:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Guess what country's produced the best results around the world? America has, period. You can say whatever you want about UK. How long has UK been around? How, how long was UK the financial center of the world? What happened to UK? Huh? What happened to you right now? I was watching a video about how UK was in a fifty, sixties, from what the families looked like to what it looks like today. They lost their entire identity. What happened to a lot of these countries? How did America that's two hundred and forty-nine years old, about to be two sixty, two fifty? In a week, July 4th, they're gonna be 250 years old. How did that country whoop on Iran? The Persian Empire? How did that country whoop on China? How did that country whoop on Russia? How did that country whoop on UK? How?

• 1:41:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Better ideas eventually win. It takes a minute, but they eventually win. Uh, Vinnie, are you ready for the Minnesota story? Cause I'm gonna go-

• 1:41:51Speaker 03

  Let's go, let's go.

• 1:41:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Minnesota story. So the fraud in Minnesota is not slowing down. One of the, uh, individuals in, in, uh, Minnesota, Minnesota, uh, them tearfully apologizes to Somalians after they were busted for stealing billions. Let me read it, read this to you again. A, a democratic, uh, uh, uh, in, in, uh, Minnesota tearfully apologizes to Somalians after they were busted stealing billions. Vinnie, I'm just gonna hand this over to you. You take it from here on what you have with everything that's going on in Minnesota and Somalians and the fraud.

• 1:42:29Speaker 03

  Okay, so just right off the bat, Pat, about half or more of roughly 18 billion dollars. I'm gonna say that one more time for anybody that's doing something in the house and you just went, did he say 18 billion dollars? Yes, 18 billion dollars in claims paid out by Medicaid to Minnesota-run programs have been fraudulent. Ha, more than half. And at least 14 of those were likely exploited, a federal prosecutor said on Thursday. He suggested on, uh, last Thursday that the total amount of fraud in Minnesota could be nine billion dollars or more. And then Pat, uh, remember, uh, Nick Shirley? He made a video, Humberto, I'll give you a second to, to bring up Nick Shirley. He, this guy, Pat, he's one of the, the best at what he's doing right now.

• 1:43:13Speaker 03

  He's not just talking about stuff, he's going on the ground and showing us the fraud, okay? So he went to one of these daycares, um, and by the way, you're gonna laugh, you're not gonna believe this, Pat. They spelt "learning wrong" on the daycare sign. And he, they're receiving, are you ready for this? 1.9, uh, million dollars in tax-exempt funding from CCAP in 2025. It's one of these fraudulent businesses and, and the video's gonna show, Pat, nobody's even there. Look at how awesome this kid and look at the work that he's doing. Go ahead, Bert.

• 1:43:51Speaker 12

  within the government and the Somali population. Here, this building alone, Quality Learning Center, is a daycare, yet they spelled "learning" wrong, and they said "leering." This daycare alone in 2025 has received 1.9 million dollars from the government. The strange thing about these childcare centers is there's no one here right now. It's midday on a weekday, and if you were to try to go inside, it's completely closed, and the windows are all blacked out. No one's working, midday, children should be in here, and this place is licensed for 99 children, and this is the outside. There's no windows, no nothing, and like I said, they literally spelt the word "wrong" on their sign.

• 1:44:37Speaker 12

  This is open and blatant fraud taking place here inside of Minnesota. The government is complicit with this, and this is just one of the hundreds of child daycare centers here inside of Minneapolis being ran by the Somali population. It's sad that it's happening here in Minnesota, and it stinks that it's happening, and it's being labeled on the Somali population, however.

• 1:44:56Speaker 03

  So you can pause, Alberto. So Pat, look at like the Somali, we all joke around about the Somali pirates and the, you know, who's the captain now. They're pirating on the water, and they're pirating on land in the United States, and it's like, it's over. Like, I'm sick and tired of all this Elon Omar and Tim Walz. It's, it's as if they think that we're stupid, and they're gonna keep directing all, because like you said about the light shining on top of you, Patrick. The light is shining on Minnesota, and they keep questioning Elon Omar, and she's like, "Trump is this, Trump is racist, Trump is that." And Alberto, if you could queue up another clip, I don't know if you guys saw this, Elon Omar is speaking at some event, some fundraiser, I don't know what the hell it is.

• 1:45:38Speaker 03

  Pat, you're not gonna believe this, she's saying that the president of Somalia, that's her president, not her child, like, she's, she's saying Somalia is our home, not her childhood home, not her heritage, just straight up, "This is our home." This is a United States Congresswoman pledging allegiance to another president in another country. Go ahead and play this.

• 1:46:10Speaker 13

  President Hassan Sheikh Mahmoud Mahmoud in an mountain who saw the way in Minneapolis

• 1:46:16Speaker 03

  Give a warm welcome to Minneapolis Look at her

• 1:46:19Speaker 13

  I think it is a special relationship when we are I think I was I think I was I think I was

• 1:46:29Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what I was

• 1:46:30Speaker 13

  My wife is she is she is she is she is she is Minneapolis I think I was I was

• 1:46:40Speaker 03

  Our president

• 1:46:45Speaker 03

  He's our president

• 1:46:48Speaker 13

  Somalia

• 1:46:49Speaker 03

  Somalia is

• 1:46:50Speaker 13

  that mesh with the Joe

• 1:46:52Speaker 03

  Is our home Then go back

• 1:46:53Speaker 13

  We are we are we are we are we are we are we are we are Somalia we are we are we are my heart my heart my heart my heart my heart my heart my heart Somalia

• 1:47:06Speaker 03

  Can you just stop it Robert, go Then go back to Somalia You can stop the video Go back to Somalia Okay Leave And Pat, when they talk about the enemy within This is that This is that Pledging allegiance to another president Praising your Go back to your country Go back to your country Enough with this bashing America Bashing our president Stealing billions of dollars When is enough gonna be enough? Okay? If they kept their mouth shut If she kept their mouth shut And Tampon, Tim Walz kept his mouth shut They probably would have got away with this But your big mouths All that All that light that you were talking about Is shining on them right now And she's openly pledging allegiance To another government And to another freaking country Okay? Then get your ass out Get out and leave, Pat

• 1:47:51Speaker 03

  I'm tired of this America has to be first At the end of the day Be proud about being who you are Be proud about being Somali Good for you But you guys are stealing You're bashing us And you're taking away from the American people And the tax dollar When is enough gonna be enough, Pat? It's not like she's hiding and saying this She's out in the open She's out in the open And we're letting it happen in Somalia And it's gonna happen Watch how slowly It's gonna start happening New York There, you'll see

• 1:48:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom Yeah, what Vinny said is absolutely correct. It's one thing to say, hey, I'm a Somali by birth, but I'm an American now. Pat has said that and says, and my heart aches for what's happening in my country because of a natural disaster, revolution, war, whatever it is. It's one thing to say that and say, I am so glad to be in America. I have no quarrel with that. But when you say, this is my president and it's not you, and you are, you are part of a, and by the way, we're just getting warmed up. Remember, this is only one program that they're saying is $18 billion, which half of, which what I read and exactly what they said, half of 9.2 billion so far. This is just one program and the money is being sent back to you know, who in Somalia, you know, the terrorist groups.

• 1:49:03Tom Ellsworth?

  And so you, you look at it and you're like, wait a minute. It's one thing to have a heart. It's another thing to, to, to be basically here like a leech or like a remora following the shark and taking the life from the shark, sending it elsewhere. It's horrible. And this is nothing. I'll tell you who Omar is a big fan of right now. Gavin Newsom, you know why? Because his fraud spotlight is moving the spotlight off hers. It's going to be bigger numbers and Tampon Tim and Omar are going to be happy when the, all the fraud, the, the oxygen in the room and the news cycles is taken up from the California fraud. But this, this is has to stop. But I'll tell you who my heroes are.

• 1:49:44Tom Ellsworth?

  My heroes are the people that are in the Justice Department and are people that are in Minnesota that are, that are conducting investigations right now. They need our support and they need help. They need additional staffing and they're working hard and people are going to jail. It's just not fast enough or big enough. It's like when the mob, when they went after the mob and when Julianne went after the mob in New York, it took time. And when people opened up the door and they turned on the light in the kitchen, they realized it wasn't one roach. Dozens of roaches run when you turn on that light? And this is just the beginning. I am sitting here. I get what Vinny's saying, but my heart goes out to the men and women that are in Minnesota

• 1:50:29Tom Ellsworth?

  facing professional resistance, professional persecution, trying to do their jobs and clean up the fraudulent mess. They need help. They need the equivalent of the National Guard, which is more Justice Department because these are US dollars, federal dollars that were part of this as well.

• 1:50:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Makes sense. And by the way, I, I think accountability is coming close to them. I think, I think they're gonna have to, you know, be able to answer for this, but we'll see what happened there. Let me get to the next story here. Next story I want to get to is Meta made sixteen billion dollars from scam ads. By the way, that is nearly ten percent of their revenue in 2024, that one hundred and sixty-four billion dollar revenue in 2024, of which sixteen billion of it came from fake promoting scams and banned goods on Facebook, which they allowed to happen. Meta's own document estimates that platform showed users about fifteen billion dollars, fifteen billion higher risk scam advertisement

• 1:51:30Patrick Bet-David?

  per day, meaning ads clearly exhibited signs of fraud. Another internal figure cited around seven billion dollars of annualized revenue from high-risk scam ads, separate from broader projections. I'm gonna try to find one of these videos and show it to you guys. Vinny, tell us more about this whole story that came in of the type of money Facebook's making from these scam ads.

• 1:51:49Speaker 03

  So, so Pat, apparently, uh, uh, they figured out a way, very smart, but very sketchy way. Uh, it's like a business model, okay? They let scams run and do the thing, then they scam, they charge the scammers more to do it. So they show that they made that sixty million that you were talking about. Uh, and then when one team tried to stop the Chinese scams, Mark Zuckerberg reportedly, allegedly, pulled the plug after it cut into profits. So the scams kept roaring back. Uh, and to top it off, Meta's own algorithm, this is the problem, Pat, targets people most likely to fall for scams. Think about that. They're purposely going after you with the algorithm. So vulnerable users get hit with more junk

• 1:52:28Speaker 03

  because it's more profitable. And to make things worse, Meta allegedly had a scam tax, basically higher ad rates for shady accounts. Like, like, what are we talking about here? And not banned, just taxed. So Meta expects billions in fines, but they don't care, Pat. You know why? It's all baked into the plan. And this, it made me, it reminded me of why Mark Zuckerberg, because think about his history. Think about Mark Zuckerberg's history and why all of a sudden he's like... I'm gonna donate for Trump, cuz you know, this is once Trump was gonna win, Pat. I'm gonna donate to Trump. Mark Zuckerberg is one of the reasons Joe Biden won. He spent, how much, how much? Four hundred million dollars on Zuckerbucks. Everything on Facebook, everything on Instagram was trashing President Trump.

• 1:53:13Speaker 03

  Banning people from doing this, banning people from doing that. Uh, trying to like, like stifle the freaking people's voice. And now all of a sudden, we're finding out that it's baked into the program where he knows he's gonna get fined four billion, but they're making sixteen billion. So this, I don't care how much, and I've said this before. I don't care how much Zuckerberg is going to the gym. I don't care how many UFC fights he's going to. I don't care how many dinners he goes to at the White House. He's still, in my opinion, doing this scam artist BS, and I don't, I don't like it at all, Pat. On top of all the other stuff that they've been going through in Congress with all the underage, you know, kids watching like content that's not appropriate for them. It's like enough, enough with this guy. Enough is enough. Like, I'm done. I'm done with them. It's all scams.

• 1:53:57Speaker 03

  Everybody's scamming everybody. From Minnesota to California.

• 1:54:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I'll give you, you know, words talk, numbers scream, and I'll give you some firsthand data on this. Um, our own internal legal group at, at ValueTainment that works with ValueTainment merch and works with contracts for the Vault Conference. You know, it's a normal legal group that any company would have. They have an unbelievable amount of cease and desist letters that go out every month on fake VT merch. We want you to get the best quality, so always go to VTmerch.com. That's not a commercial, that's a reality. We don't want you to be disappointed. People send us emails and say, hey, I didn't get this, I didn't get that. And so where'd you order from? Well, there's this thing on Instagram, and this thing on Facebook. We're like, wait a minute, wait a minute. Those aren't us. And so we're having to track it down and knock it down. And we're working really hard on it because this is our own customers, this reflects on us.

• 1:54:46Tom Ellsworth?

  So the scam goods end up reflecting on the good companies that may be selling something cuz the scammers are selling knockoffs. Or worse, selling stuff in the US you shouldn't be selling at all. You know, um, the, the, the slow return of Silk Road, if you will, um, in, in little pockets. But, and then you turn, turn the The other cheek. Let me tell you, history repeats itself. Broadcast television had trouble with 1-800 and 1-900 numbers that would advertise their stuff, you know, on late night TV. You would watch the, you know, Letterman or you watch Leno and then late night TV and all of a sudden you would see the things for kitchen appliances and stuff. And a lot of that stuff was junk and was knockoff and, and it wouldn't ship

• 1:55:29Tom Ellsworth?

  to people and the people would reach out trying to get help. But you know who's cashing the check for the ads to be put on? The TV stations. So, and radio stations. So there's been a longstanding kind of one eye closed relationship that media has had with companies that are trying to come sell stuff. And it's one of the reasons, I'm gonna compliment Pat right here and you can put it in the chat and say, oh, you've been friends too long, everything. No, I'm gonna tell you the truth. There's a reason why we don't have 10 sponsors here hawking stuff. Because we want to be careful about purity. That's it. And we are actually trying to make sure that our knockoff stuff gets taken off the market. So when people buy stuff from us, they're getting the real deal, the authentic

• 1:56:10Tom Ellsworth?

  thing. And when we help charities or we say we're helping charity, when they bought something, it's going to that charity because it's really us.

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• 1:57:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you guys hear me? Or no, can you hear me? Now we can. Did you hit the mute button or something? I just added on mute, but I'm gonna show you something. Okay, go ahead. I just went on Instagram and I looked at all the video messages that I got. I typed in fake ads in my message box, right? If I tell you I found 800 messages, that's a small number of people saying this is fake. And I kept saying, "Report to Facebook that it's fake." The video is still not down to date when it was reported in May or April by 500 plus people. Watch this video, it's still live. You tell me what it takes for someone to know that this is a fake ad. Go ahead, Humberto.

• 1:57:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Volume. I can't hear Humberto, volume.

• 1:57:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Humberto, we can't hear it. So whatever you're doing from your end, I'm just gonna run it from this side because I can't hear what it's saying. Yeah, no audio. Yeah, no audio on mine either. So let me just play it for you from here. Listen to this, folks. Next 90 days will make millionaires in 2025. These are the top three stocks to buy in a turbulent market. I guarantee that some of them will surprise you. You don't need to rush to act or buy immediately. You can join my group to see my real investment cases. For example, the Palantir stock I shared in the group before has risen by more than 300% in half a year. I don't charge any fees and if my advice doesn't meet your expectations, you can withdraw at any time. By the way, by the way, check this out. You know what the handle is? The handle is called PBD Stock. I don't do stock recommendations.

• 1:58:41Patrick Bet-David?

  It says PBD Stock. Yeah, this is Pump and Dump in the new world. Facebook knows this is happening and it's been reported by so many people.

• 1:58:52Patrick Bet-David?

  That are saying this is fake and I say, "Report, it's not me. Report, it's not me." Do you know how many people fell for some of these stocks? A guy messages me pissed off saying, "Give me my $150,000 back." I said, "What $150,000?" He said, "I bought Bitcoin from you." I said, "I never talk about buying Bitcoin." He says, "Yes," I said, "that's not..." So I call him directly. I said, "I don't know who you're talking to. Show me the information." He goes to the office, I said, "That's not our website." I said, "Go back to the domain, click all the way at the top." I said, "That's fake. Look at the domain." And he says, "Ah shit." I said, "We wouldn't do stuff like this." Always bring..." So he's like, "Man, this is..." So this is hap..." The fact that Facebook knows this is happening and you're not... That's criminal to me.

• 1:59:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, I've been complimentary of Mark the last, you know, eight months, 12 months. I'm disgusted by this. I'm absolutely disgusted by the fact that Facebook would allow these types of ads to go. What dummy does it take to know that's a fake ad? What does... Mark Wahlberg had to post something and saying, "I don't have a Bitcoin class." People were buying Bitcoins from Mark Wahlberg where Mark Wahlberg had to say, "If anything comes to you saying, 'I'm a Bitcoin expert,' I'm not. I'm not. Don't buy anything from me." So it's very disappointing that Facebook knowingly didn't do anything about this and the users took a hit on this. Adam, do you have any thoughts on this?

• 2:00:16Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I mean, we hear about these bots and I'm always like, "What the hell is a bot?" And I did a little research. They're just fake programmed computers that are set up to click things and like things. And then it got me thinking to another thing. So Facebook gets paid. Meta gets paid.

• 2:00:34Patrick Bet-David?

  No matter what.

• 2:00:35Adam Sosnick?

  When fake bots click ads or click things. So this isn't... This is a business model. They're like, "Yeah, we don't even care because my assumption..." My assumption, could be wrong, it probably costs more to enforce these rules and remove the bots and do something about it than it costs to actually crack down on these things. So like, the reason you're upset is because what the hell are they doing about this? We're living in the internet world and we have bots running our lives, the comments, the clicks, they're getting paid regardless. So, you know, you talked about the guy that $150,000. I'll never forget, our friend here who's now running the cigar lounge, one

• 2:01:19Adam Sosnick?

  time we're eating at Casa D'Angelo, the restaurant, and he goes, "Hey, Adam, I bought your product." I was like, "What product did you buy?" "Your money thing, I bought it." I'll go, "I'm not selling anything." This is a person who knows me in real life. I won't say his name, we know who I'm talking about with the accent.

• 2:01:36Patrick Bet-David?

  $200, $200.

• 2:01:37Adam Sosnick?

  I was like, "What?" I'm like, "You could just talk to me." He's like, "I did it online." I go, "No, that wasn't me, bro." But how many stories like that exist? How many fake accounts out there? How many fake crypto stuff going out there? But they're cashing checks. So, until people actually revolt, we're gonna be dealing with this for a long time.

• 2:01:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this, here's another guy, I'm just going through the messages, looking at this. The guy says, "Pat, they're running fake ads on you, okay?" So I respond back and I said, "Their post popped up on my profile, I think it's a fake page, just want to let you know." I respond back and I said, "It's super fake, we have, we as a team have tried to ban them, but Facebook keeps approving their ads." You know when this is? July 6th of this year. That page is still up. July 6th of this year. What a shame. What an absolute shame that you allow stuff like this to happen and you have all this technology to be able to match them and know what's going on. Anyway.

• 2:02:31Adam Sosnick?

  And PBD, with you, with us, with such a big platform, if we can't get shit done, imagine the average person out there, their frustration.

• 2:02:39Patrick Bet-David?

  No question, it's extremely discompli-

• 2:02:40Adam Sosnick?

  Inexcusable.

• 2:02:41Patrick Bet-David?

  It's inexcusable. Let me get to the next story here with Megyn Kelly and Barry Weiss, with some of the messages that's gone back and forth. So, Megyn Kelly teases that there's more truth coming about Barry Weiss while confirming-

• 2:02:57Patrick Bet-David?

  They are no longer friends, okay? And I'll read both of these stories and see what's going on here. And, and I think this is something we need to be talking about. So let's go through this. Megyn Kelly has declared that there's more truth coming about regarding CBS News editor and she Barry Weiss. Kelly, 55, made the claim this is a Daily Mail story. In a cryptic post message on X after launching a shocking broadside against Weiss. 41 this week in an interview with Vanity Fair. Humberto, if you have a clip on that, prepare us for it. Kelly told the magazine that Weiss and another former friend Ben Shapiro were unwittingly fueling a recent rise in anti-Semitism by clamping down on certain rhetoric.

• 2:03:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Weiss shared a speech Shapiro gave at Turning Point USA America Fest on Thursday that criticized conservatives for not disavowing Candace Owens on her new, new site, the Free Press, a few days before. The speech signaled out, singled out Kelly specifically. And the Free Press piece was titled Only Cowards Tolerate Conspiracy Theorists. Barry Weiss calling Megyn Kelly a coward. If you read the code language, that's what it sounds like. The characterization was clearly on Kelly's mind Tuesday as she responded to an inquiry from a Frank Lunt pollster about the tone of the Vanity Fair piece. Given she and Weiss were once friends, I was reliably informed this week that it is

• 2:04:21Patrick Bet-David?

  cowardly not to call out your friends. Not to call out your friend, call out your friends with the unvarnished truth about their defects, Kelly wrote, making a reference to how Shapiro, 41, accused her of cowardice in his own speech. So may, so my days of being polite friend are over and there's more truth coming. This is Megyn Kelly saying to that. And then Barry Weiss, I'll, I'll read the next story of what happened here. Barry Weiss, a very public break with Megyn Kelly came after Kelly quietly rebuffed weeks of behind the scenes lobbying to appear in CBS debate with Call or Daddy podcaster Alex Cooper, according to a report Weiss called Kelly to take part in a high profile feminism debate at CBS News.

• 2:05:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Prepare to roll out a new town hall series under Weiss's leadership. An affair reported Kelly declined a rejection that preceded Weiss's decision to promote Ben Shapiro's onstage broadside. Weiss took to social media and amplified Ben Shapiro's speech. Owens, the influential podcast, have made a name for himself of Shapiro's TV Wire. Kelly, okay, so anyways, Vinnie, I'm gonna come to you first, okay? And then, actually, Tom, let me see here, give me a second, guys.

• 2:05:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Boom, boom, boom. Yeah, Tom, I'm gonna come to you first, and then I'll go to Adam and Vinnie. When you see this here with Barry Weiss, Megyn Kelly, a week ago was Ben Shapiro and Megyn Kelly are no longer friends. A week later, is Barry Weiss and Megyn Kelly are no longer friends. What do you think about these issues that are taking place on the conservative? I don't even know if I put Barry Weiss as a conservative. She's probably a libertarian independent. What do you think about the feud that's taking place?

• 2:06:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, the crowd is fracturing. And it may be fracturing for what each person feels is good and right reasons from their own perspective. But they're not unifying behind a common enemy, nor are they coming together and moderating behind it. And you look behind each one of them, and Barry Weiss, you kind of know, she's, she came from Free Press, you know, big payday, now she's supposed to drive CBS. There's a lot of things she can and can't do at CBS. She took an executive producer decision a week ago, I thought was strong, that said, hey, man, you know, I want to make sure stories are complete. And the rest of the media didn't respect her editor in chief position because they wanted her to run with a story that was anti-Trump. Now, what did she do with that? Only she knows, and she needs to say more about it.

• 2:06:49Tom Ellsworth?

  On the other hand, you've got Ben Shapiro, who we know what he's all about. We know his real stance. And then you have Megyn Kelly, you know, actually, I think there's a degree of authenticness going on with Megyn Kelly about, you know what? If this is the way it's gonna be, maybe I don't have friends over here or over there. Maybe she's coming out more of a Walter Cronkite. I don't know, but it's concerning to me that there's not a unified platform. You can at least unify on a platform and get beyond your differences. And right now, people are fracturing and it's not going to help for midterms. And I don't think it's, you know, I don't, I don't think it's, it's healthy to a unified message. You know, this is crying out for someone to kind of moderate in the middle and get all these kids together. You know, this, they're looking for a Phil Jackson.

• 2:07:34Tom Ellsworth?

  The conservative movement doesn't know it, but it's looking for a Phil Jackson that can make Scottie Pippen, play with Dennis Rodman, one of the most gifted defenders of all time, but an absolute handful. But guess what? The right coach got him to work well at the team and they won championships. That's what I, that's what I see coming here in the bigger picture.

• 2:07:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Adam, thoughts?

• 2:07:56Adam Sosnick?

  So Megyn Kelly has a massive voice, but Barry Weiss now has power. She's running CBS, is she not? And she just got a check for a hundred something million dollars for her daily press. To me, this comes down to Megyn Kelly is going to learn a lesson that, you know, you stand in the middle, you're going to get run over, you're going to have to pick a side. So everyone wants to shit on Ben Shapiro. Oh, he's Jewish, he's pro-Israel. All right, forget about that. Let's just call a spade a spade here. Who's attacking Candace Owens these days? Everybody. The most notorious conspiracy theorist of all time.

• 2:08:37Adam Sosnick?

  Alex Jones is now dedicating his sole life mission to exposing the bullshit that Candace parrots every single day. Alex Jones, ladies and gentlemen. Alex Jones is now calling her Black Q, like QAnon. Alex Jones, think about that for a second. Next person, the most logical actor, I think, at the Daily Wire, non-emotional, is Matt Walsh. Matt Walsh just eviscerated Candace Owens. By the way, step by step by step by step with a scalpel. And he says, by the way, I'm still friends with Candace, but damn, is she wrong. Andrew Colbert came out there and basically denied that there was anything to do with Bibi Netanyahu

• 2:09:20Adam Sosnick?

  on $150 million. So at some point Candace is gonna have to look in the mirror and be like, "There's nobody with me, except for literal Israel haters, or moms who are bust out their popcorn and watch this like I watched Scooby Doo when I was a kid." That's it. So at some point Candace is gonna have to look in the mirror and be like, "Yeah, nobody's with me anymore." It started with Tim Poole and maybe myself, but now you got Alex Jones calling you out? Lady, read the room. Now Tucker Carlson, they love him in the conservative movement, that's great, but Tucker Qatarson is his new name. What is this Qatar bullshit? You don't have to be friends with Israel. You don't have to like Israel. I don't care.

• 2:10:05Adam Sosnick?

  But to try to twist the narrative and be like, "Guys, Qatar's our friend." Qatar is a terrorist sympathizing, oil-rich kingdom that's buying out, it already bought Europe and it's attempting to buy America, and Tucker just pretends that we're not gonna notice what BS he's spewing? If Tucker said the other day, "Listen, listen, I buy a house in Qatar because I respect them. I buy a house in Qatar because I like what they're doing." But to say you buy a house in Qatar because you're an American buddy, buy a house in Detroit, buy a house in Boston, to me that's absolute BS. Now, the last point is this, this all comes down to Turning Point USA, the speeches that were given.

• 2:10:49Adam Sosnick?

  So here are the numbers, based on Turning Point. You don't have to believe it or not. This is Blake Neff, I believe is his name, showing the numbers within Turning Point, how they feel about Israel. I would love to not talk about Israel. I have, like, people have Trump derangement syndrome, people have Israel derangement, love to not talk about Israel, but they wanna keep talking about it. Here are the numbers. 33% of the conservatives at Turning Point say Israel is the top ally, 1/3. 53% say Israel is one of the top allies, and then you have this fringe movement, 13%.

• 2:11:24Adam Sosnick?

  Who says Israel's not an ally? Good luck with the fringe. Forget about the fringe. Root out the cancer and let's focus on conservatives. And here's the big kicker. Winning the midterms. Cause the real enemy is the radical radical left that wants to burn down America. That is teaming up with the Islamic right. The red, the red and green merger. The strange bedfellows of Marxist Islamists. That's the real enemy, not the conservatives that you might disagree with.

• 2:11:51Speaker 03

  Vinnie, thoughts? Um, and I think I said this last week. Again, all roads is all comes to criticizing Israel. If you saw the last video where Megyn Kelly and Charlie Kirk, God rest his soul, when it was like, can you believe this, Meghan? They're calling me, Charlie Kirk, an anti semi and her as well. And by the way, these are the two biggest Zionists. They got attacked, Adam, because they dared to criticize Israel. And here's, here's the, here's the problem with that. We, everybody, conservatives all, then we bash America. We bash Mexico. We bash the UK. We bash Chile. We Venezuela, Elsa. We bash everybody. Why does Israel get, think they get a free pass? I, and that's the, that's the one problem, Adam.

• 2:12:35Speaker 03

  I've criticized everybody, but why is it that if you criticize Israel, it's you're anti Semitic? The ADL goes after you. That word has been thrown around so much. It's like calling Trump Hitler. Hitler has lost its sting. It's like, just because they want to criticize, doesn't mean they hate Jews as a freaking whole. That's the disconnect. You can criticize Israel. I've criticized Israel. Do I think that we need them and they're very freaking, uh, where they are, especially strategically to the United States? Of course. You can't be that blind and that stupid for your hatred for the government to hate the people as a whole. That's like me criticizing Bibi Adam, but you're saying, oh, then I hate all Jews. That means I hate Adam. No. And then calling to deplatform is stupid.

• 2:13:20Speaker 03

  And I just think too, the, the, the voices that are pushing this, this movement, bro, that you know how, why Ben Shapiro is losing so many freaking subscribers and followers? Do you know why Mark Levin, bro, Rabbi They need a freaking internal cleansing of just these voices that are not popular. Barry Weiss, I like. She's actually doing her thing. She's wedging in there. She's doing it. She's successful. She's not sit there saying deplatform this and take away this and do that. That's that's the problem I think that we're seeing because Megyn Kelly, bro, she's pissed off because she's successful. She knows what she's doing. She doesn't want to be told what to do. You shouldn't talk to this person. You shouldn't talk to that person.

• 2:14:02Speaker 03

  That's why I think the disconnect is, Pat, it's the it's the the taboo of even trying to criticize. Um, Israel. I get what you're saying, Adam. The whole Israel killed Charlie, all that. Put. Put all that nonsense, soap opera BS, Candace stuff to the side. You have to be able to criticize. You have to be able to let people stake their case, just like when Pat had on Nick Funtas. Good. Let him talk. Let these people talk. If we're free speech absolutists, I want to hear them. I don't want to deplatform them. Let them talk so and let the market decide.

• 2:14:33Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, so can I can I respond to one thing?

• 2:14:35Patrick Bet-David?

  No, Adam, let me say a couple of thoughts because we get to the end of it. Uh, so here's here's what I would say to you. Remember, this is not a Tucker Candace story. This is a Barry Weiss, Megyn Kelly story.

• 2:14:47Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 2:14:47Patrick Bet-David?

  What I want to stay focused on the Barry Weiss, Megyn Kelly story, staying there. Okay. So, you know, Megyn Kelly, Barry Weiss, these two. What role did they play in Trump winning in 2024? Barry Weiss was formerly with New York Times. Who who went and did the Twitter files? Who was part of Twitter files? Who would have named the people that did Twitter file?

• 2:15:14Speaker 03

  Mark Taibbi, Matt Taibbi, Sheldon Berger, Michael Schellenberger, Elon Musk.

• 2:15:19Patrick Bet-David?

  And Barry Weiss. Barry Weiss was part of Twitter files.

• 2:15:23Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 2:15:24Patrick Bet-David?

  If you go look at the reports that was coming in, she was one of the ones that, by the way, this is a woman that was a liberal. This is a woman that is not a, by the way, is she straight? Is she, is she? I don't know.

• 2:15:36Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know if she's straight, but she definitely was the editor, I think, at the New York Times. And she wrote a basically, a Jerry Maguire type letter, basically saying, "I can't stand for this nonsense."

• 2:15:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:46Adam Sosnick?

  At New York Times.

• 2:15:47Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's, here's the way I see it, right? Here's the way I see it. Let me just verify this. I don't, I don't want to start rumors and we don't know what's going on. I thought I had read somewhere of where she's at. There's no public, okay, got it. So there's nothing on her sexual orientation, but I don't know if, you know, where she's at on her personal life. Did she play an important role in Trump winning? Yes. Did Megyn Kelly play an important role? Don't forget when Megyn Kelly reunited with the president and went onstage with her, with him, and she came up, remember that message? Of course. When Megyn Kelly came up? And it was like, because all we think about Megyn Kelly and then Trump is what? Only Rosie O'Donnell.

• 2:16:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Mr. President? No, that's not true. Because she came out hard with that being the first opening question. So guess what? Megyn Kelly, you know, made up with the president and it was great. Barry Weiss played a very important role, very important role, on, on helping the president win. I can give a lot of different names. I think here's what's going on and a few things that, you know, everybody needs to be okay with. It's okay to debate issues. You guys remember when, for me, it was like when we're negotiating with China and I said, "Listen, if I was the president and I'm dealing with China and we're doing anything with tariffs, I would say the following. You gotta allow Facebook, YouTube, and X to be in China." "No, I'm not gonna let you."

• 2:17:16Patrick Bet-David?

  "Okay, great, then guess what? You don't have free press. So I don't know what you're doing to your people. I don't know how people are working. I don't know if you have all these sweatshops. I don't know how you're making people work for such little money. You have to give us free press. No, I'm not gonna do it. No problem, then we can't do certain things together." Guess what? Israel, you're our ally. We've done a lot for you. You've done your fighting in the Middle East. Don't get me wrong, you got a very good intel agency, but what, what happened to those 260 journalists? Why don't you allow people to open up and share different stories? Why not? You're above that? What, you, you need to have immunity over that? I don't think so. So I think there's a place there to challenge. That part two, we can debate that.

• 2:17:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Then we can also debate the fact that would you say most of these Ivy League presidents are pro-Israel? No. Well, what were they doing? You think they're for Israel? No. Well, what do you think they were allowing to do? Destroying your schools and universities? And all these people are giving you all this support? And you're not taking all this money from China? And you're taking money from these guys that hate America? And then you're, those kids who are Jewish going to school should also not feel worried and afraid. That's not okay. We should debate that as well. We should debate, America only, America first. We should debate these things. And by the way, to all these players, you're all important. Everybody is playing an important role. FYI, everybody is bought. Let me explain what I mean by that.

• 2:18:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Some are bought by whoever they work for, which is, you know, Sirius XM or Spotify, whatever it is. Some are bought by countries like Qatar that are giving them money. I don't know who those people are. But we know for a fact, they're playing the game. Some are bought by George Soros. Some are bought by Israel. Some are bought by big private equity firms. And you know who some people are bought by? Their customers. Yep. And let me say this to you. You, you are our customers, okay? You are our listeners. Everybody has their loyalty to somebody and something. We are trying to be loyal to our truth and what we believe is important to us. I'm a Christian man.

• 2:19:28Patrick Bet-David?

  This is what I am, okay? I'm married, I got four kids, I love America. This country changed my life. It invited me in. Do you know what happens when somebody invites you in as a guest? I'm a guest here. I wasn't born here. I'm grateful for everything this country gave me. But I'm a guest, I'm not gonna get it twisted. And I've realized that I'm a guest here. And I took advantage of the opportunities America gave me. And I would like this place to stay as the greatest country in the world. That's gonna take a lot of work and effort. But there's also another part with this. Tom, that I believe is going on today, it kind of goes back to that story about the grandma that left a note, the grandma that left a note. For her purpose.

• 2:20:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I wish Charlie would have done a 10-hour recording and set it aside to play for Republicans and conservatives if in case he were to die, to give a unifying message, Vinny. And in a movie, Ultimate Gift, Jim Stovall writes this book, Rhett Stevenson in the book dies a billionaire, but he records 13 videos and he plays the video saying, if you're watching this, it's because I'm dead and my lawyer is playing this video for you and it's all his family members and relatives are watching this conversation. So when you see this, what do you take notice? Here's what you take notice. Right now, Republican Party is divided. Why?

• 2:20:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody's bringing them together. And there's this competition. Wait a minute, is Barry Weiss now more powerful than Megyn Kelly? Yes, she is. Say whatever you want to say, she is more powerful. She built a business that CBS bought from her. Megyn Kelly is a content creator and she's phenomenal at it. She's probably the modern day closest thing we have in America today to Walter Cronkite. That's Megyn Kelly. But that's the positioning. Barry Weiss became an operator, a manager, an executive, a CEO, an entrepreneur, managing employees and other people. That's a lot of work. That's not easy to do. So that's the part where Barry Weiss can kind of, she's both the interviewer and the content creator and the manager. She's becoming a power player.

• 2:21:39Patrick Bet-David?

  You can say whatever you want to say. She's becoming a massive power player and the market's going to change in the next two or three years. Some people are not happy about that. There's an element of, when you watch Inside the NBA and when people say, I cannot believe what these players are getting paid today. I cannot believe this name, nobody even knows what this guy's name is. He got paid a $212 million contract. They did. They're making a lot of money. I cannot believe that other guy's doing this, this and that and Durant made all this money in his investments. Yes, he did. You can as well. So there is this element of envy and competition that's also going on, but you just have to realize, you got to give credit to the guys that are doing big things. If Barry Weiss built a business and somebody cut a check for it, good for you. I celebrate it.

• 2:22:24Patrick Bet-David?

  If Megyn Kelly got a $100 million contract tomorrow from Sirius XM or what? If Joe Rogan got a half a billion dollar contract, Charlamagne the God got a 200 million dollar contract with iHeartMedia, I don't know how the hell iHeart is gonna pay them when they got 3.5 billion dollars of debt, but they're gonna pay 200 million over five years, 40 million a year. If Stephen A. Smith gets 120 million dollar contract, a multi, multi, multi, multi-contract, if Pat McAfee gets 127 million dollar contract, celebrate it. It's great. They're kicking ass. We don't have a problem with that, but this next phase is gonna be very interesting, and I hope eventually, while we hash through all these things that we're going through, somebody steps up and finds a way to call a meeting

• 2:23:06Patrick Bet-David?

  for everyone to come together. Anyways, we are at the end of it, of the topics that we covered here today. We went 30 minutes over. Folks, for those of you guys that are with us, let me see this here. For those of you guys that are with us, the 26,000 that are still live with us right now, after an hour and 20 minutes of podcast, a day after Christmas, which we started at 7:00 a.m., which means California was 6:00 a.m., and last night you probably stayed up late watching movies, hanging out with the family, and you're still here with us, you're a true PBD Podcast viewers, and we appreciate you, we're grateful for you guys, and look what you did. You even made a Jew put on Merry Christmas. I mean, you know this is the end of it. That is taking place, right?

• 2:23:47Adam Sosnick?

  I love my Christians. I love them all.

• 2:23:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Anyways, gang, Merry Christmas. Enjoy the weekend. We will do this again, Monday morning, podcast, and then we'll be back live physically in our office next week. God bless everybody. Enjoy your weekend. We'll do it again next week. Merry Christmas, everyone. Bye-bye, bye-bye.