Trump EXTENDS Iran Ultimatum + DHS Shutdown Causes TSA CHAOS | PBD #764

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana break down Trump extending his Iran ultimatum amid Strait of Hormuz tensions, Iran’s long-range missile attempt on Diego Garcia, Robert Mueller’s death, TSA chaos tied to the DHS shutdown, and new Epstein-related revelations. ------ 👍 LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE! Ⓜ️ MINNECT WITH NICK SHIRLEY: https://bit.ly/49gyFlE Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰KALSHI: ⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠ 💬 TEXT US: TEXT “PODCAST” TO 310-340-1132 TO GET THE LATEST UPDATES IN REAL-TIME! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:04Patrick Bet-David?

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• 0:26Patrick Bet-David?

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• 0:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Welcome to the next evolution of the PBD Podcast.

• 1:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Are we officially live? Here we go, folks. New set is here. Finally, we've been working on this. The team is back there. Make some noise for the guys back there. Great job, everybody. Lots of work getting all this thing set up. We're excited to be here with the crew. We've been doing it at the other office, the 5990, which was great. We will not have Mikaeli today. I'm very sad. Which is devastating. We will not have the croissant in the morning. We will not have the food, the Italian martedella, the prosciutto. We won't have any of that stuff taking place. Well, maybe we bring it here. I don't know. I think we're on track on building a kitchen here anyways.

• 1:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Mikaeli was giving us bar, boardroom style.

• 1:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so gang, this whole thing starts with you. Obviously, somehow, some way, we found each other. You know, I cannot tell you how many times we walk. Vinny's telling the story about this week he went to church and what the experience was like when he went to church. How people approached him, getting emotional about what the... You know, the PBD Podcast does when we're speaking about all these different stories, but it wouldn't happen without you. So I want to start off by thanking you, and this guy's not ready for it. Vinny, I need you to start the podcast with a prayer. So lead the way with a prayer.

• 2:10Speaker 02

  Oh, wow. Dear Lord, thank you for another beautiful day. I pray, Lord, that you protect everybody in this room and all the people out there watching at home. Bless the PBD Podcast, Lord, because you know the message is about the truth and finding the way and leading people to you, because everything happens to you. You are the way. You are the truth. You are the life. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.

• 2:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Amen, amen.

• 2:31Adam Sosnick?

  Let's go.

• 2:31Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. He wasn't prepared.

• 2:33Adam Sosnick?

  I wasn't.

• 2:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I didn't tell him about it. I said, "You're gonna go, I'm gonna come to you first." He didn't know what that meant.

• 2:37Adam Sosnick?

  For someone that was not prepared, you seem pretty damn prepared.

• 2:40Speaker 02

  I'm always ready for him.

• 2:41Adam Sosnick?

  That's right.

• 2:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 2:42Adam Sosnick?

  Here he is, take him.

• 2:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, just so you know, don't give any ultimatums, because one was given about 48 hours ago. Okay? And that ultimatum ends about tonight at 7:45. But this morning, at 7:10, this man who works five days a week at this building on Pennsylvania, the other two in Mar-a-Lago, for the most part, and sometimes he's on the road. He said, two days ago, about 40 hours ago, 39 hours ago, to Iran, "If you do this, we will do this," and of course, we'll get into the story. And then this morning, the president comes out and says, they had great talks, things are looking good, and at that time, oil was at 98. Within minutes after 7:10, it drops to 89.

• 3:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I think Dow pre-market is already up a point and a half already, is up 700 points already today. We'll see what happened. Mario in the Fall puts on Twitter that Iran is now saying that they never had the conversation. So did it happen? Did it not happen? We'll talk about it here. And now the president is extending it, when he said this morning, at 7:10, five more days. We'll definitely talk about it. What's special about that is the fact that tonight, the USS Tripoli is getting closer. What does that really mean? For everybody else, if you're traveling this weekend with TSA...

• 3:58Patrick Bet-David?

  There is a, there's a lot that we're seeing with TSA. Uh, uh, you know, there's videos of people waiting three hours for getting in. We don't know what that is about waiting for three hours for getting in, but anyways, we'll, we'll show the clips. I know Tom was at the airport this morning, got 3:45. He'll tell us version of what happened. We got to get into the Massachusetts story of what's going on with taxes. There's a team in, in Washington, the Seahawks GM comes out and says, listen, you guys keep raising taxes. I'm having a hard time recruiting talent. I want to come over here. So imagine he's now going to say, look, if you're a Seahawks fan, don't lower the taxes because of politics, at least lower the taxes so we can win another Exactly. Super Bowl, because you're not helping us win another Super Bowl. And then a, a couple of other stories we have to get into.

• 4:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Robert Mueller died and when he did die, the president came out with a uh, truth social that people at the beginning didn't even believe. And then it ended up being the real truth social. And then he was asked by Scott Besson and others why this was said anyways, it's, we'll, we'll get to that as well. And at 20 countries, you know, uh, uh, deciding to go through straight of hormones, what that's going to be looking like. And anyways, we'll talk about that as well. And then we have a bunch of other stories that maybe we'll get into. Mark Victor Hansen said some interesting things. You know, uh, uh, Nick Shirley is getting attacked left and right. He needs to increase his security. He needs help financially when he's going on the road because of all the threats that he's getting. Maybe we'll find a way collectively to help him out with Nick Shirley.

• 5:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And then aside from that, uh, uh, if we have time, we'll get into a few other stories that we have here as well. Gang, uh, one thing from me to you, if you enjoy seeing what we do here at PVD Podcast, I have a basic request from you. 51% of you do not watch this, uh, uh, do not subscribe to the channel. Just watch it on a weekly basis. If you have not yet taken a moment to subscribe to the channel, it helps us out with our algorithms. We're reinvesting everything we have back into the company. Since day one of starting value team, and I've never taken a penny off the table on value team. 100% of anything we do gets reinvested because of the vision that we have long-term. If you want to support that vision, the way you can do this by helping us get more exposure, by pressing that smash button and they, and that subscribe button and notification next to it.

• 6:10Patrick Bet-David?

  It definitely helps us out. So with that being said, let's get right into it. The first story I want to start off with, Rob, if you want to pull up this tweet by the president this morning, is this the one from 48 hours ago or is this the one from this morning? This morning. Okay, I am pleased to report that the United States of America and the country of Iran have had over the last two days very good and productive conversations regarding a complete and total resolution of our hostilities in the Middle East based on the terror and tone of these in-depth, detailed, and constructive conversations which will continue throughout the week. I have instructed the Department of War to postpone any and all military strikes

• 6:52Patrick Bet-David?

  against Iranian power plants and energy infrastructures for a five-day period, subject to the success of the ongoing meetings and discussions. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Now, Rob, if we go to this two days ago, it was a different tweet that he put up there, right? Just two days ago, less than two days ago, he put up a tweet saying, "If Iran doesn't fully open, without threat, the Strait of Hormuz within 48 hours. From this exact point in time, the United States of America will hit and obliterate their various power plants, starting with the biggest on the first, one first." Thank you for this attention to this matter. Keep in mind, he said this while the USS Tripoli was going there, and Tom was doing the timing of how long it was going to take to get there. And

• 7:35Patrick Bet-David?

  then after this announcement, to say five more days, Rob, if you want to pull it up to see how the markets reacted, oil went down from 98. Look at the drop on how oil dropped. The announcement is made at 7:10. It's at 98.59. Look at the immediate drop from 98.59 to 85 bucks like this. After the announcement, it went up to 92.93. I think right now it's at 89 dollars. And then the Dow pre-market, Tom just said a minute ago, is up 700, point and a half, pre-market. So, Tom, what do you think's going on here with this announcement that the president made this morning? Is it real that they have the talks? Because, pull up the Mario and the false story real quick as well, Rob. You know, Iran fully rejects Trump's claims from this morning. There has been no indirect

• 8:19Patrick Bet-David?

  or direct contact with the president. Officials accuse him of trying to buy time and claim the US halted strikes after a firm warning from Tehran. They also called his statements psychological warfare and reject any narrative of negotiations. Iran warns Hormuz will not return to pre-war conditions as long as this continues. Why it matters? Two completely opposing narratives now, no talk versus productive talks, raising the risk of sudden escalation. Sources, Reuters. Tom.

• 8:47Tom Ellsworth?

  So I see two things. The first thing is, we now, comments move the market, and they moved the market radically. What we just saw, what Pat just showed there, the market moved, on oil moved amazingly. This is what Besant, by the way, was talking about over the weekend, about how US West Texas oil was staying well under $100. And here we are, you know, opened up today, 12 bucks under, and right now, 89, sitting there. So, number one, markets are moving radically, Pat, just based on statements from the president. So if you look at Iran's statement, psychological warfare, the psychological warfare appears to be among ourselves and Wall Street. We hear something good, it goes bang this way, we hear something

• 9:29Tom Ellsworth?

  different, it goes bang this way, that's what's going on on that side. Now then, the ultimatum, when he extends the ultimatum, now the markets calm down a little bit. And now these markets move positively, because they think, oh, there's more time to talk before some really bad stuff could happen. You mentioned the Tripoli. The USS Tripoli is in the Arabian Sea right now, and it is within 12 hours of joining the USS Abraham Lincoln, right there at the Arabian Sea, at Oman, where you are then, straight up to the Strait of Hormuz. And, over the, yesterday, what the president said was, you know what, we may consider some,

• 10:11Tom Ellsworth?

  you know, boots-on-the-ground operations on Carg Island. Well, why was he saying that? Well, because the Tripoli is pulling up in the position. That is, that is an invasion ship. It's got advanced aircraft on it, 2,500 Marines. It can do what the big aircraft carriers can't. Because the big aircraft carriers, they sit back in a protected area, and it's a launch. It's like an airstrip. You don't want the aircraft carrier in the, in the hot theater. You want it back. Well, the Tripoli is made to be an assault, part of an assault. So, that's what's going on. The combination of, I'll give you more time, but here comes the Tripoli, we may do something on Carg Island, now it's five days, causes the markets to calm a little bit. I don't want to see boots on the ground. I don't want to see anybody

• 10:56Tom Ellsworth?

  get off the USS Tripoli onto ground there, at all, personally.

• 11:01Speaker 02

  Um, I don't, I mean, again, we're, we're, people need to understand we're in war. And in war, you have to do tactics. And I think, you know, the president knows what he's doing when it comes to information here, posting this, market goes down. But the, the, the one thing that bothers me is the fact that there, we are, if we strike, Tom, and correct me if I'm wrong, power plants in Iran, the very people that we were talking about helping are going to suffer the most. Besides the military, besides everybody else. We start striking because already the oil, it's on fire, you know, they're breathing all that stuff in. If we start attacking the power plant for Iran, the people that were in the streets fighting and trying to revolt to go against this Islamic.

• 11:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do you say that?

• 11:46Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, think about it. If, if you hit the power plants, all the power is going to be gone. We're seeing what's happening in, in Cuba right now. They have, they haven't had power for how many days? If you hit the power plants, all the people are going to suffer in Iran. It's not going to be just military. Am I, am I, am I wrong?

• 11:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 11:59Speaker 02

  That, that, that's my thing. And I get it. It's war. But if that happens, the same people that we were trying to help are going to be affected.

• 12:06Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the, what's the reason why we're in there?

• 12:09Speaker 02

  Well, the, the initial reason, I thought the first time we were, we went to Iran.

• 12:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  Was because people were in the streets, 40,000 people were, were killed for protesting and we were supposed to go in there and, and help them and help them put in a leader. I think once Trump talked to Reza Alavie, he realized that guy wasn't the guy. But then from what we're hearing, it's now, uh, this is from what I'm gathering, then now we're like, oh, they still had, they were trying to get a nuclear weapon, which I thought we knocked that all out six months ago. I thought that was done.

• 12:41Patrick Bet-David?

  The story came out that maybe we didn't go all the way in and we didn't fully destroy it. Maybe we did. If you remember where they were like, no, they didn't fully destroy everything they did. And who knows the real story behind what happened there. So, okay, Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 12:52Adam Sosnick?

  So I don't want to help the terrorists, but if the terrorists or the IRGC in Iran actually want to understand Trump, they should read one book. It's called The Art of the Deal. Because if they read that book and stop, put down the Quran and put up this book, they'll actually probably understand Trump's mindset. You talk about asymmetric warfare. How many, how many times have you heard that term asymmetric warfare? They got drones, we got missiles, all of that. Trump is also using asymmetric warfare. He's basically saying, you got 48 hours, tough guy. They're like, what? Hold on. What? Are we gonna call him? We're gonna talk to him? Alright, just kidding. You got five days. And then in three days, he bombs him. And they're like, what? I thought it was 48 hours. I thought...

• 13:33Adam Sosnick?

  Trump is unpredictable. He's using tactics like Vinnie said. And then if you follow The Art of the Deal, what does he talk about? Thinking big. He talks about creating leverage. Talks about controlling the narrative, which he's doing. All eyes on Trump. And then it's always negotiating from strength. Vinnie, you okay, baby? Spitting out water on me? Just almost... Anyway, the last thing I'll say is this. Thank God we got Trump in there. Because there's a chance that you got cackling Kamala out there negotiating with the greatest state sponsor of terrorism the world's ever seen. Could you imagine? Oh my God. Chuckle, chuckle, cackle, cackle. So you might not approve of the way that Trump operates, and I get it. You know, my mom isn't a fan of how Trump operates. But like I told my mom,

• 14:17Adam Sosnick?

  there's no more voting for you, mama. Trump's in charge, and let's, uh, let's back him up.

• 14:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so let's, let's go through this. Because while this is happening, you got Mark Victor Hansen, a reasonable player. He's not somebody that's over emotional, one side, the other side, some guy that's fairly reasonable. I wouldn't say fairly reasonable. He is reasonable. And he comes out, and the story comes out, you know, where he says, this is about to be done. Okay? I don't know where this, Iran's regime could fall... Pretty soon Victor Davis Hansen says as global tide turns and this is just a couple of days ago Rob is this the clip?

• 14:54Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 14:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 14:56Speaker 04

  There's enough evidence to see how things are really going. Europeans would never agree to go anywhere near Iran unless they thought the tide was turning and they want to they think that we're going to win otherwise they would keep still. And the reason that the Pepto nations of the Gulf survive is they have their finger in the wind and they're very attuned to the climate. And when you have Al Jazeera praising the United States bombing campaign and saying that it's been underestimated and it's brilliant and effective, you get the feeling that they think not only should the United States finish the job, but it can and will finish the job. And then when you start to see tactical aircraft like Warthogs and Apaches, that means that they're offering almost ground and sea support to hit targets. There's nothing, there's no defense at all when you have that type of aircraft flying at will in Iranian airspace.

• 15:39Speaker 04

  So you put it all together and I think it's pretty clear that this rope-a-dope strategy that they have that we're going to tire before they are is dependent on just public opinion, the midterms and the United States. And if Trump sees it through, and I think he will, I think they're going to fall pretty soon.

• 15:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, do you agree with him?

• 15:57Tom Ellsworth?

  I think this is a very cogent analysis and I hope he's right. I have, I agree with the analysis step by step because it shows historically how the nations have been reacting. And then all 23 nations, not all 23, 23 significant nations, all came together in agreement over the weekend. So I, I basically agree with him and I think it sounds directionally correct. When you look at the posturing and the actions of everybody over the weekend, everybody wants this war to be over and they want the objective to be met. And now everybody appears to be lining up to position themselves for day one after the war. And he went down the list of the Europeans are getting ready for this. The Gulf nations are putting their finger in the wind as he said it, getting ready for this.

• 16:42Tom Ellsworth?

  I believe Qatar, I believe asked the Hamas leaders, because there's a Hamas office that's literally like, like three streaks over or something from the US embassy that's in Qatar. They were asked, you know, can you clear out of here? So it, it, everything he said sounds reasonable. And it sure sounds like people think the tide is turning on this. Not tide is turning, but that we're coming to the end of it. I, I hope we are.

• 17:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so I'm gonna read this. More than 20 nations spanning from Asia to Europe, to the Gulf have expressed a readiness to contribute to the effort of opening up the Strait of Hormuz amid threatens, threats to ship, uh, by the Islamist regime. In a joint statement released on Saturday morning, the nations of Australia, Bahrain, Canada, Czech, um, Czechia, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Republic of Korea, Romania, Slovenia, Sweden, UAE, and the UK.

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• 18:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Damned in the strongest terms, the recent attacks by Iran against unarmed civilian shipping vessels, its attacks on oil and gas infrastructure throughout the Gulf and its move to shut down traffic in the Strait of Hormuz. We express our deep concern about the escalating conflict. We call on Iran to seize immediate threats, laying up mines, drones and missile sanctions, and other attempts to block the strait to, to commercial shipping and to comply with UN National Security, Security Council Resolution 2017. The group of nations said. Adam, your thoughts?

• 18:45Tom Ellsworth?

  So it's pretty clear to me this one thing. Iran is holding the world hostage. You know, I said this before, they started their, uh,

• 18:54Adam Sosnick?

  New country off forty seven years ago by holding how many Americans hostages? Almost five hundred American hostages and forty seven years later, they're gonna hold the world hold world hostage. This is what they do. By the way, you know, their little proxies Hamas literally holds people hostage. You got Hezbollah, holding Lebanon hostage. You got the Houthis, holding Yemen hostage. This is their game plan. You know, it's kind of like US and Israel and their allies are basically saying, you mess around, we'll kill you. And Iran goes, oh, yeah, you kill me? I'mma kill everybody. Remember the scene in uh

• 19:29Speaker 02

  I'mma shoot, I'mma go get my gun.

• 19:30Adam Sosnick?

  And a white man can't jump. He's like, I don't know what's going on here, but I'mma go to my car, get my gun, I'mma kill everybody here. And that's the reality of what Iran is willing to do. They will hold the whole world hostage in order to protect their regime. And by the way, I get it. If it was me against the world like Tupac, I understand if you want to take out the world. But this is why the world has to have a moral fiber and a backbone like all these countries are basically saying, yeah, we can no longer be held hostage by the Iranian theocratic regime. We're done with these

• 20:05Speaker 02

  Vinnie. My, Pat, mind you, I'm not a freaking, I'm not in these meetings, we're not in the Department of War, I'm not into any of that. I'm just trying to figure out, do we think objectively, these people are gonna stop? Cause, cause right now, all the leaders, whoever steps up, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead. And they keep stepping up. Who's gonna stop? Iran? Yeah, because I'm trying to genuinely figure out, is it just the military? Who's giving the orders for them to keep fighting? Cause every single person of authority is getting whacked left and right. Pat, I'm trying to figure out, so the allegedly gay son is in charge right now, I don't know where he is, he might be an underground bunker party. He might not be alive.

• 20:47Speaker 02

  But what I'm saying is, I'm trying to figure out the clear objective of, when can we say? Cause you know, two weeks, and again, I'm gonna give the president, cause who was the first, Adam, tell me I wasn't the one that was saying during the terrace, when everybody was losing their minds, I go, let him cook, give him some freaking time, and then what happened? Even though he got undercut by the Supreme justices. But my thing is, what is going to be the goal of guys? We got them, we're done. And are we going to put in, like, the leader has to take over. Because other than that, we keep killing them. Who's going to actually take the reins and be like, all right, now we're going to have an election. This is who we want. This is very, it's very touchy, Tom. Like, I'm trying to figure out the goal. Like, what's the objective? Kill as many bad guys as we can?

• 21:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, here's what Scott Besson had to say, Rob. If you want to play this clip, would meet the press, go for it.

• 21:38Speaker 06

  I was on the phone with President Trump a week ago. He told me allies were on the way to help secure the Strait of Hormuz. Has the Trump administration abandoned that strategy and now chosen to go it alone?

• 21:51Speaker 07

  Again, what we have done, there has been a campaign to using military assets to soften up the Iranian fortifications along the strait. That's going to continue until they are completely demolished. And Kristen, let me tell you, whether it's this network or the mainstream press, the American people do not have good framing what is going on here. If you were to read what is happening, and I'm sure when Senator Murphy is on, you know, he has come out and said, we are losing the war. That is wrong. We have demolished the Iranian capabilities. Their air force is completely destroyed, navy destroyed.

• 22:32Speaker 07

  And every day, we are taking out their missiles, their missile systems, and the factories that build those missiles. And now, our, the General Kane, Secretary Hegseth, are leading a campaign to destroy all the fortifications along the straits of Hormuz.

• 22:50Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go, Adam.

• 22:52Adam Sosnick?

  The biggest takeaway that I have from that is, he's basically saying the Democratic Establishment Party, the media party, is going to start claiming that we're losing the war. That's a lie. Where you have the IRGC and the Ayatollahs claiming that they're winning the war. That's also a lie. So there's a war going on here, just so you understand. There's bombs, there's missiles, there's energy, there's oil. The most important war is the war for your mind. Don't further, you go Vinny. I believe it. Don't fall for the nonsense. I was talking with a friend of mine, he's a Navy SEAL, good buddy of mine. I've talked to him yesterday. He goes, buddy, I don't think you understand how good we are at war now.

• 23:35Adam Sosnick?

  He goes, we've already decapitated 80% of their offensive output, of their boats and their ships, of their planes and their defense mechanisms. All they have left is this hostage situation with the Strait of Hormuz. But meanwhile, you know, this whole endless wars thing that they've been talking about. Yeah, nobody wants that. But look at the flip side. That means we've been training for 20 years for this moment. And you saw what happened when we took out the nuclear bombs in what part of Iran was that? In the summer. And they said, how long did they say they were doing those flights for? Pretended that 20 years. So imagine we're pretending to do this podcast. And we have 20 years to practice a podcast. I think we're gonna nail the podcast.

• 24:19Adam Sosnick?

  That's how good our military is at this point. Again, we don't want endless foreign wars. We don't want that. We want to get in, we want to get out, we want to be precise. We've learned from the George W. Bush debacles. And here's Trump basically saying, it's been 47 years. Can you give us four to seven weeks before you breathe down our throats? And that's where we're at now.

• 24:38Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, this whole thing about, you know, what Iran's capabilities were. This weekend, there was a story that came out with Iran having the capabilities of long-range missiles, Rob. I think you have this clip. Right? Iran ballistic missile hits Israeli city. In terrifying strike near top-secret facility that is key to countries' atomic weapons. That's one story. But the other one is the long-range, Rob. Do you have a clip on that to show? With the long-range missile?

• 25:05Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 25:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Trying to see what page that was on.

• 25:06Adam Sosnick?

  Right here is Fox News.

• 25:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it. One of the things we hear a lot about in these conflicts is an escalation ladder.

• 25:14Speaker 02

  And when Iran fired the intermediate-range ballistic missiles in Diego Garcia that Trey mentioned, 4,000 kilometers from Iran, that was an escalation that not only stunned the US but the entire world. Because Iran had not publicly stated that they had anything that could go more than 2,000 kilometers, and yet here, now we know, they have two 4,000-kilometer-range intermediate missiles that fortunately did not impact anything, but it's a warning, it's a message that they have these capabilities that they didn't publicly state. In fact, under President Obama's JCPOA, there was no restriction on Iran's missile

• 25:59Speaker 02

  capabilities. They said they weren't building it, now we know. And what is the danger? Why is the world unnoticed? Because, look, from Rome, Munich, Paris, London, Berlin, Oslo, all now within this radius, these capitals, and many of these capitals in these countries do not have the missile interceptor technology like we have and like Israel has. So should a nuclear-tipped, intermediate-range ballistic missile be fired at one of these capitals, it could change the trajectory of humanity as we know it.

• 26:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, let me read this, and Avini, I'm gonna come to you here for this one. So in the same period, while this is taking place, Operation Epic Fury, February 28th, Iran's Foreign Minister Abbas Al-Rajhi claimed, "We intentionally kept the range of our missiles below 2,000 kilometers, so we don't have that capability. And we don't want to do that because we do not have hostility against the United States, people, and all Europeans." He said this on February 28th. Keep in mind, today's what, the 23rd?

• 26:57Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 26:57Patrick Bet-David?

  He said that a month ago. On Saturday, Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff Lieutenant General Ayal Zameer said, "Just yesterday, Iran launched a two-stage intercontinental ballistic missile with a range of 4,000 kilometers, 2,500 miles towards an American target on the island of Diego Garcia. These missiles were not intended to hit Israel. Their range reaches the capitals of Europe, Berlin, Paris, Rome, and all within direct threat." And then the IDF spokesperson Nadav Shoshani blasted the alleged Iranian deception on X writing just three days before the war, Iranian regime said they don't obtain long-range missiles. Today, their lies were exposed once again. When missiles were fired 4,000 kilometers away from Iran, they hoped to lie their way into

• 27:42Patrick Bet-David?

  becoming a force that can terrorize the world. We didn't buy that. Vinny?

• 27:45Speaker 02

  It's, it's, right now, it's, who, who do you want to believe? Do you want to believe, do you want to believe an Islamic state leader that literally, literally kills their own people, hangs athletes for protesting against their regime? Or are you gonna believe our Department of War? That's, that's, that's what it boils down to. And by the way, my brother, Victor, was stationed at Diego Garcia. Pat, this, you know how important this base is? For B-52 bombers, for B-1 bombers, for our munitions. They go there, they stage stuff, and then they leave there. The fact that they can actually reach there is a huge, huge, huge problem. And then guess what? And like Adam was saying, we have to go in there, knock them out. I, I'm hoping to God that they are targeting every single one of these missile sites. I'll give them another two weeks to get this all taken care of, and then that's it.

• 28:30Speaker 02

  Because this, this base is so freaking important. It's in the middle of the Indian Ocean, Pat. My brother was there for, I think, for a, a, a year. And my brother yesterday was saying, like, Vinny, if they could touch that, it's horrible. That means the, you know, UK could get hit and a bunch, a bunch of other bases. So I guess what, it doesn't surprise me that he's lying about the length and the capability of the missiles.

• 28:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I want you to watch this clip by Abbas Arghachy, uh, who said Iran does not have missiles that can reach America three days before firing the 4,000 kilometers from Iran. Rob, I don't know if you have that clip or not, if you want to play that clip. So this is just three days before launching it that he said that, okay? This is three days before launching it that he said, is that it, Rob? Go for it.

• 29:11Speaker 07

  React to the statement, his State of the Union address. He has very clearly said, and please tell me where that credibility of the information really comes from, when he says that President, uh, uh, has claimed that Iran is developing missiles that can reach America? Himself, the victim of fake news, unfortunately.

• 29:31Speaker 07

  We are not developing, uh, you know, long-range missiles, and we have limited the range of our missiles.

• 29:41Speaker 06

  So our missile is our reliable means of defense and we have no intention to extend their range. So this is not the fact. It was also mentioned the number of killings in Iran, another fake news. We have already published the name of the victims of the recent terrorist operation. Thirty-two thousand. Three thousand one hundred. Thirty-two thousand. Yeah. Thirty-two thousand. It's only three thousand one hundred seventeen victims. Iran is not developing nuclear weapons.

• 30:24Speaker 06

  We have always said, and I would like to reaffirm, that we have no intention to go for nuclear weapons.

• 30:31Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. Tom, thoughts?

• 30:33Tom Ellsworth?

  So I go back to a chapter of history. Kim Jong-un, you know, North Korea madman who passed power over to Kim Jong-un, his son, in 2011, and now Kim Jong-un, known as Little Rocket Man. And he's done these tests of the Hwang Song seventeen and Hwang Song eighteen. They keep going further and further and further into the Sea of Japan, and it makes people nervous. And guess what? Now, North Korea is assumably, and reliably assumably, a nuclear power that has rockets that could reach Tokyo. And they've launched these things.

• 31:16Tom Ellsworth?

  So it's like, do you sit by and let this happen? And then now you're perpetually negotiating with North Korea? Well, this rocket makes me very concerned. This is why, when they said we were going to go get the nuclear elements there, we're going to go in and get the nuclear elements, and we're going to destroy the ability to do it, and we're going to get the drones, factories, and destroy the ability to do it. This is why. We don't want them to have the capability, because it's one thing to have a nuclear bomb, and then when you have missile technology, now you have the ability to deliver it far away. And that's bad. And so by all reports, it appears to be legitimate.

• 31:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Remember North Korea's test. I bring them up. Remember how many tests we would see that their tests failed and the rocket like didn't launch properly. Lands in the water. They launch another one, goes up there, it loses speed, it lands in the water. This is part of test. And testing, testing, testing, eventually a nation gets it right and they have a somewhat reliable weapon that can cause real damage to populated areas. And this really, this, this concerns me, but this is why we were going in.

• 32:22Patrick Bet-David?

  How convinced are you it's a, it's a true report?

• 32:24Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I'm 90% convinced when I see things like the AP. That would not want to report this like that. AP would want to say, oh, it was just a test. It's just a toy. It's not really working. Another thing that the war hawks are going to use to convince Trump to go into Iran. To me, that's how the mainstream media would play it. Don't you think, Pat? I think it would be played like that.

• 32:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, I have a lot of thoughts, a lot of thoughts on this. Adam, I'll come to you first and I'll give my thoughts.

• 32:49Tom Ellsworth?

  So I'm 85, 90% for your question.

• 32:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie, where are you at with it?

• 32:53Speaker 02

  Me now.

• 32:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Of it being real, the 4,000 kilometers.

• 32:56Speaker 02

  I was just gonna ask you guys, do you believe that guy, the guy that does what he does to his people of anything? I don't believe him. I don't believe that.

• 33:04Patrick Bet-David?

  So you believe they have it?

• 33:05Speaker 02

  I, 100% that they have it. Why, why, hold on.

• 33:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, where you at?

• 33:08Speaker 02

  Of course they do. They already launched it. They launched two of them.

• 33:11Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, just so you know, I'm looking at all the reports. I'm going everywhere. Left, right, center, Reuters, CNN, AP, The Times, Times of India, Economic Times. You, you go anywhere, they're all saying that this is a true reporting that they attempted this weekend, 4,000 kilometers. Long range missiles that can hit sites, US sites, not in the country, but some military units that we have. Different places like the Diego Garcia. Everybody is saying this is accurate, that this exists, that this is happening.

• 33:44Speaker 02

  And you know why, Pat? Think about it. You're losing so bad. This is like a way, they just changed the range. They, they go for it, gets knocked down. To say, hey, we're still tough. They are getting decimated. Like put, put all the BS aside. We are in war. If you look at it and pull back.

• 34:01Adam Sosnick?

  We are destroying them. We are destroying them. And if you're part of the losing side, you know you have to say, "Hey, we could hit UK. Hey, we could kinda hit a military base." Tom, you have to. If you're drowning, you're trying to grab on to anything, anything to save yourself.

• 34:16Tom Ellsworth?

  I see two quick points on that. I hear that. So the first is, I've never heard the Crips and Bloods say to each other, "Oh, don't worry. My nine-millimeter bullets won't go through t-shirts," right?

• 34:27Adam Sosnick?

  "I'm doing some gangster things again, guys."

• 34:30Tom Ellsworth?

  "My rocket only goes 2,000 miles. We would never turn it up to 4,000." "Why would we do such a thing?" That just seems to be lunatic. And listening to, and just processing just now, I'm kinda processing it a slightly different way all of a sudden, Pat. When you get all of the countries in the news media saying it's real, what are they really saying? They're really saying, "Holy crap, it's real."

• 34:52Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 34:53Tom Ellsworth?

  "We gotta stop this guy." So all the liberals suddenly are now...

• 34:56Patrick Bet-David?

  But it's not just liberals, Tom. It's not just liberals. It's more than that. Go ahead, Adam.

• 35:01Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. So, all these people do is lie. There's actually something in their book called "Takia", which it's like, "Dude, we want you to lie. We're encouraging you to lie." You can find that for me, Rob. So, all they do is like, much like DJ Khalid, all he does is win, win, win. All these people do is lie, lie, lie. So right now, there's a poker game going on right now, and everyone's gotta figure out who's bluffing. Iran's bluffing. And we all know what they're about. We know what they're gonna do. We've been watching them for 47 years. They are the same people who just said a few months ago, "Hey, listen, we just had a little bit internet blackout. No big deal. The power be on after the weekend. Oh, the power comes back on." They murdered all their people.

• 35:48Adam Sosnick?

  Thirty, forty, fifty thousand murdered. You hear the stories from the people in the streets. They said there was a million people in the streets protesting. The IRGC and the army and the police brutality came out and just started spraying. People dead. We got people freaking out when a gay lesbian couple goes out and tries to have beef with ICE. The whole country goes crazy because she gets in the way. Why are we so silent when they're gonna be murdering their own people? So, this is, correct me if I'm wrong, Pat. The people here who said, quote-unquote, We don't have problem with people, the United States of America or the Europeans. Are these the same people who've been shouting death to America?

• 36:32Adam Sosnick?

  Nonstop for 47 years? Don't they also say death to England, death to Israel? So excuse me if I don't believe you, Tekei a guy. Last point is this. We want to know the reason that we're going into Iran. There's a, there's 10 reasons. But the number one reason is nuclear. Yes, they kill their people. Yes, they're sowing chaos. Yes, they're a terrorist regime. Yes, yes, yes. We can't let them have nuclear. Now, if you, if you believe this chart, I'm no nuclear scientist like Tom over here. But apparently you need to have 90% enriched uranium in order to have a nuclear weapon. If you look at this chart, three to five percentage is general all energy. You know, they say, oh, we got to use nuclear energy.

• 37:17Adam Sosnick?

  20% is research. After that, there's nobody in the history of the world that has had up to 60%.

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• 37:55Adam Sosnick?

  That hasn't gone to 90. So I'll ask you this. Do you believe that they want to create a nuclear weapon? I believe yes. Do you, do you believe that they will use a nuclear weapon? I believe they would. Building a rocket. Or at the very least, will they use the nuclear weapon to hold the whole world hostage? They're like North Korea with jihad. And we just can't afford to have them even consider nuclear weapons. So that's why we're in Iran right now.

• 38:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so, so here's where I'm at with this. I think you have to look at everything. Let's, let's be super reasonable and have nothing emotionally attached to what could happen. Let's just kind of lay it out and play possibilities. One, you know. You know, uh, uh, Israel is creating this story of 4,000 kilometers long-range missiles, and it doesn't exist. They fired it from somewhere else to say, "See, see, they have it. Hey, Mr. President, they have it. Let's kill them," right? Okay, that's one, there's a community that actually believes that, right?

• 38:52Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 38:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, the next one is, no, they actually do have it, okay? They actually do have, you know, long-range missiles, 4,000-kilometer missiles, to be able to attack many of the areas that are our allies, or even some of our military base, okay? So, then, you know, when you're saying, you know, Iran, you know, they get, they're told to lie because of religion, all this other stuff, listen, at this point, listen, no politician is innocent of that part. When a guy makes it to the highest level, you think presidents are telling the truth? If you believe that, I've got a lot of things to sell you right afterwards, you know.

• 39:26Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, but this is in their book. It's like if it was in our constitution.

• 39:30Patrick Bet-David?

  I get it.

• 39:31Adam Sosnick?

  That'd be one thing.

• 39:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, what Pat is saying is like, anybody elected senator should be imprisoned.

• 39:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, I had, I had Joey Marino on the podcast the other day. You know how many times I asked him about the Philadelphia? He's the current boss of the Philadelphia crime family, according to the FBI. Guess what he said? "It's all lies. It's not true. It's all lies. It's all lies." There was even a moment where I said, "Your best friend, Mikey Changs, was killed by his brother, Joey Changs, from Stanford's camp, who was at the, at the time, the boss of the Philadelphia crime family." I said, "He killed your best friend, Mikey. I don't know what you're talking about." I said, "After they killed it, did you have any desire to want to seek vengeance?" Guess what his answer was? "No." The rumor has it that they went and they killed the guy that killed Mikey Changs. Guess what Joey said for two hours? "No."

• 40:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, "You didn't have any desire to want to seek vengeance?" Guess what his answer was? "Not at all." Then I said, "How did you become so noble?" And then he's got a smile on his face. You understand the sequence of the question? Of course, it was an interesting conversation. You know, some people in the comment section said interrogation, whatever you want to call it. It was a conversation, but what's, what's the point here? When you make it to that level, if it's me revealing to you while knowing the enemy is watching everything I'm saying, you think they're gonna tell everything? So I'm not sitting here saying, "Hey, enemies lie, but we always tell the truth." Then you're so flipping naive. I got four kids. You know, you get trained very quickly when you have a lot of kids on how capable human beings are, even those that you love sometimes. But here's where it kinda goes to for me.

• 41:03Patrick Bet-David?

  If it is true that they do have long-range missiles, if it is, to the community that doesn't want that to be true, because why? Your argument then looks what? Terrible, and you have to say what? "See, it's all Israel. See, it's all Israel." That's a lazy conversation and position that that community's making. If it is true that they do have it, let's say you, even that community that says it is them. Even to that community that believes, you know, what if it's them? I'm telling you, what if you knew for a fact 100%? We took you over there, you saw where it came from, we showed you the clips, we showed you exactly who came, who pressed the button.

• 41:48Patrick Bet-David?

  If you knew that's exactly 100%, what's your next move? What should America do? If you knew, what should America do?

• 41:55Speaker 02

  Keep going.

• 41:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Now hear me out, what I'm gonna ask you again, Tom. I'll come to you, cuz you're fairly reasonable. If we know 100% they have long-range missiles, 100% they have the capability to hit us, what should happen next?

• 42:11Speaker 02

  You gotta go, you gotta go put an end to it.

• 42:15Patrick Bet-David?

  If that's the position, Tom, are you firm with what you just said right there?

• 42:18Speaker 02

  You have to be.

• 42:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, if you know 100% they have it.

• 42:22Speaker 02

  If I know, if I know 100% for a fact, and you showed me, like, I saw it.

• 42:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm telling you, let's just say there is 100%. You're, you're sitting in the Situation Room. What should we do next, Vinny? What do you say?

• 42:32Speaker 02

  You have, like, whatever we're doing right now, you have to ramp it up and get it over with, because guess what? If, like I said earlier, once they get that desperate, then they could do what, what else? What else are they hiding from us that you don't know? You have to take 'em out. Like, why is it taking so long? Just take it all out, go for it. You're slowly doing this mission, take every, cuz Pat, we can't, don't, like, I don't like that for them to try to pretend. They know where every missile is, they know where every capability is. They need to just do it. If I know for a fact that that's the truth, get it over with.

• 43:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Destroy it. So, period.

• 43:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Two things. One, nuclear capability. Adam's right. All the intelligence has pointed to the fact that it's 60% enriched and they keep running the centrifuges to get it, to get the uranium. And once you get it to 90%, you put it in a compressed tennis ball, basically, and you've got yourself a nuclear weapon. Then, the long-range missiles. If I was in a Situation Room right now, I'd be like, "Mr. President, we need to ask the Joint Chiefs. Did we know we had that, that this capability? Have we destroyed the launchers? Have we destroyed the factory that's making this long-range missile? How on earth did they launch this in the middle of a war when for 21, um, days, we've been destroying things?" That would be my question, Pat. And if now we know that

• 43:49Tom Ellsworth?

  they have something else, why didn't we know with the intelligence? But we gotta take care of that. Because you have nuclear weapons and delivery systems.

• 43:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so-

• 43:57Tom Ellsworth?

  The delivery systems makes the nuclear weapon all the more dangerous.

• 44:01Patrick Bet-David?

  If I know for a fact, is there a possibility that if these 20 nations all of a sudden turned, is there a possibility that they had full-on proof to show that there is, this was their missile? Is that a possibility that these guys all of a sudden flipped and are like, "No, we got your back because proof was shown"? Maybe, I don't know. But if there is, and they're in there, and they need, they're showing that, "This is the threat, you American people." I'm fine. Sometimes as a founder, CEO, you'll do stuff for your guys, and they won't even know you're doing it for them, and they're not grateful for it. And they will never know. Sometimes you do that as a father, sometimes you do that as a husband, sometimes you do that as a leader, and no one will ever know what's going on behind closed doors. No, and

• 44:44Patrick Bet-David?

  by the way, you will never get the gratitude you want. They'll privately text you and say, "Oh, my God, you've changed my life," but publicly, they never want to give you the credit because, God forbid, some of the other guys see it. So, this is, this is kinda where he's at. But if you're a leader and you're in that position, and you know the information, if that's really what it is, call the shot. You know what makes me uncomfortable? Here's what it makes me uncomfortable.

• 45:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so then 7:10 this morning, the president comes out and says, "Yeah, you know what? We talked and we're extending it from tonight to five days is what we're doing because the talks are going good." The moment I read that, before even you guys telling me Mario in the fall sent, because Adam said then Mario in the fall said, "Oh, somebody send it in, right?" What did, no, you read it, right? What did I say?

• 45:30Speaker 02

  I don't believe it.

• 45:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, "I don't know if I believe that." Why? 7:10 is when?

• 45:35Speaker 02

  Market opens.

• 45:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Not market doesn't open 7:10, it's pre-market. So the moment you did that, and when did you announce that? What's today? Today's Monday. Why does today matter? Monday, you don't do it on Saturday or Sunday. Why don't you announce that Sunday at 8:00 PM? It's not the same as Monday at 7:10 AM, right before the market opens up, oil drops 10%. Market is up 700. Where is Dow at right now, by the way? The market's already opened up. What's it looking like right now, Tom? How's the market looking like right now? It's up, it's up 842.

• 46:09Speaker 02

  Up real big.

• 46:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Almost 2% the Dow's up. How much is S&P up, Rob? Can you go to the S&P right next to to your right? Just go to your right. No, no, where you were at your.

• 46:17Tom Ellsworth?

  S&P's up 100.

• 46:18Patrick Bet-David?

  And click S&P.

• 46:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Everything's up almost 2%.

• 46:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, got it.

• 46:21Tom Ellsworth?

  A little under 2%.

• 46:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, so everything is up, and then Iran comes on and says, "No, we haven't had any talks." So then you know what that makes me think about? I don't know if the 4,000 kilometer range missile is true or not. I don't know. I'm gonna be leaning towards 70, 80% it's right, okay? I'm gonna go 70, 80% right. But my skeptical side is gonna sit there and say, you know, Trump is very good at confusing. It's a very important skill set. He's very good at confusing. He's very good at, you know, he's the kind of guy that'll come and sit with you and have a great conversation with you, and you're like, "Oh my God, we just had a conversation." You go in the car, car blows up.

• 47:03Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 47:04Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I'm being very honest, that's a part of a boss, a leader. When you know this guy crossed the line, and you know like the scene in Godfather when Al Pacino kisses, you know, his brother, and it's like, hey, and you know what that kiss means, that's it. Brother, you're talking about, right? So do I think he's doing that to throw him off because tonight, when the USS Tripoli gets there around 7:40, 7:40, I don't know what the time is gonna be, Tom, and then as we get closer, if he knows the 4,000 kilometers is real, and in the next week, two weeks, they all of a sudden decimate, and Mark Victor Hansen, who's a reasonable player, whom I trust, he's never been a guy that's like a,

• 47:46Patrick Bet-David?

  you know, plays the game, or is emotional, or bitterness, or angry. No, he's just a very cool, calm, level-headed guy. He says, why did these other 20 nations all of a sudden join? Why did they? Maybe there's something going on none of us know about, and by the way, let me tell you where I'm at. I'm leaning towards this better end fast. You know, if you got it, if this is true, and the 4,000 kilometers are real, you better go and wrap it up now instead of waiting any longer. Tom, I'll give you the final thoughts, I'll go to you first because I'm a god.

• 48:18Adam Sosnick?

  Why are you so focused on the 4,000 kilometer thing? What is it, pinpoint that for me.

• 48:25Patrick Bet-David?

  2,000 to 4,000.

• 48:26Adam Sosnick?

  No, meaning so go further than that, you're saying that that's the extent of where they can attack. So it's not just the Middle East.

• 48:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you said you didn't have the capabilities just a month ago. Now you do, so you lied, what else do you have that the rest of the world doesn't know about? It's like,

• 48:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, is it documented that Israel has nuclear weapons?

• 48:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it documented, like have they publicly said that they have nuclear weapons? Okay?

• 48:53Adam Sosnick?

  I don't think they've ever admitted it. It's widely believed. Which is 95%.

• 48:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, no, it's not 95%. I'm telling you, they got it.

• 49:02Adam Sosnick?

  It's very high.

• 49:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm telling you, they got it, right? So, look, if you're lying to me about 4,000, what else do you have that maybe we don't know about?

• 49:10Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, I'll double down on what I always say, nobody trusts these people, all they do is lie. And the whole world knows it. But it's kind of like they needed the United States to go and do what it did, and that Israel will do what it did. Now, Trump goes, what, make your move, world. What do you want to do? You now have verifiable proof that they can attack any single one of you. And by the way, they would. If they're gonna kill their own people, you don't think they're gonna kill you? Germans, Brits, French?

• 49:39Patrick Bet-David?

  It's funny, when the guy says, "All these numbers about us, the numbers are wrong. We did not kill 32,000 of our own people. We only killed 31,170 of our own people." Oh, okay, what a noble guy. Well, thank you so much, that you only... We would never kill our own people, 32,000, but we would kill 31,170. They deserved it. They deserved it, right? What a nice guy.

• 50:00Adam Sosnick?

  Like, some things don't need to be overcomplicated. They'll kill their own people. What will they do to anybody else? Kids, grandkids, aunts, uncles, sisters, brothers? They'll hang out on the street. And you're worried whether or not they'll kill you, random person in the UK? It's so obvious to me.

• 50:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but this 4,000 is very important. It's very important. It's very important because the side that has said they have this capability can now say, "I told you so."

• 50:31Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly.

• 50:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, Iran, by the way, just so you know, this is very important for people to realize. A lot of people are saying, "Well, Iran said they don't have it." No, they didn't say that. Iran is playing kind of slippery slope, the way they answered the question, because they want you to know they have it.

• 50:48Adam Sosnick?

  Right.

• 50:49Patrick Bet-David?

  To say, "Oh, you haven't even got the worst of us, the best of us. We have a stockpile. Wait till you see what we can do to you. We dare you to come through, and we dare you to do this." When you're small, act big. When you're big, act small. They're small, they're acting tougher, but maybe they have it. And so, they're not not taking responsibility for the missiles, if that makes sense. You know what I'm saying? They're not coming out and saying, "It wasn't us." Right? They're just kind of like, you know, the question's being asked about... You know, you ask them a question about what happened, and the guy deflects and gives a completely different answer of what took place, but he never answered the question that you were being asked about? They're kind of playing that game, so...

• 51:29Adam Sosnick?

  They're completely desperate right now. They're in the last leg of every 37 year regime.

• 51:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Mark Victor Hansen is a very reasonable guy. Listen, eliminate all the emotional voices. You're in a room, your guys in your company come up to you. This is now, do you not understand what this carrier is doing and this insurance company did this? And let me tell you, our paperwork got lost. So many paperworks got lost. And then I found that one paperwork got lost and it wasn't even lost. They forgot to send a signature and it was a six week process. And then I'm like, listen, to all the loud, crazy, emotional guys, guys, I got you. You're my guys. You're super emotional. To the two people that are super reasonable, what's going on with you? Pat, it's not that bad. They actually got it to you. What's going on with you? It's really nothing going on. It's just this one thing that they did that they fixed three weeks ago. Okay, great guys, next story. Let's move on. I think it's those things you have to know.

• 52:18Patrick Bet-David?

  The emotional people want to be able to say what? What do the emotional people need? What do you think content creators today that are the emotional people? Mainstream streamers, podcasters, influencers, guess what they need?

• 52:29Adam Sosnick?

  They need a boogeyman. They need something to push against.

• 52:32Patrick Bet-David?

  They need to be able to say the magical words, which is what?

• 52:35Adam Sosnick?

  I told you so.

• 52:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I told you so is what they want. I told you so is what? I told you so based on what? Whatever their position is. Okay, whatever their position is. So, we don't know. I mean, the market has to watch and see what happens next. I will tell you, this whole morning, this 7:10 this morning, the president, what he did. Come on, guys. I mean, that's, the man is a PR pro. He knows exactly what he was doing when he sent that tweet at 7:10 and the market's reacting to it. That, you know, it's all, and New York Times, what does New York Times write? New York Times write an article, there's finally eyeing, and Trump is finally eyeing an exit from Iran, but will he take it? Right? Will he take it? This story that comes out.

• 53:13Adam Sosnick?

  We all trust the New York Times.

• 53:15Tom Ellsworth?

  I told you so.

• 53:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, no, they're saying, that's actually a good article for the stock market.

• 53:22Adam Sosnick?

  Right.

• 53:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me read it to you one more time. Just the headline. Trump is finally eyeing, Trump is finally eyeing an exit from Iran. How do you think the market takes that headline?

• 53:33Speaker 02

  Oh, good, it's over.

• 53:34Patrick Bet-David?

  It's great. Oh, it's getting done. This is gonna, okay, it's kind of, anyway, so, I don't know.

• 53:38Speaker 02

  Trump is the only person in maybe human history that based on one tweet can move the market up or down a trillion dollars in an hour. Think about the amount of power this guy has. He sent that tweet at what time today, Pat?

• 53:53Patrick Bet-David?

  7:30 AM.

• 53:54Speaker 02

  He didn't do it on Sunday.

• 53:55Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 53:56Speaker 02

  He did it right before the market opened.

• 53:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump is, that's what I'm telling you.

• 53:59Speaker 02

  He's been doing this for a while. He knows what he's doing.

• 54:01Patrick Bet-David?

  He knows exactly what he's doing. The guy is the sequencing master and it drives a lot of people and say, now, while this is going on, let's go to a completely different story. Robert Mueller died this weekend, okay? And when he died, the president was one of the first to send out a tweet. The president was very complimentary of Chuck Norris when he died. But unlike Chuck Norris, when Robert Mueller died, this is his tweet. "Robert Mueller has just died. Good, I'm glad he's dead. He can no longer hurt innocent people. President Donald J. Trump." Vinnie?

• 54:33Speaker 02

  Well, listen, me personally, I think Robert Mueller was a horrible human being. I think he went after Trump. He went after Trump's family, his business associates, his friends, his political allies, anyone he thought that could help him create a link between the president and Russia. He caused countless numbers of innocent people to spend millions and millions of dollars on legal fees based on a hoax that we all knew was a hoax, including Roger Stone, who I did a podcast with and we're gonna be airing it today. On top of destroying lives, he deceived the American people and divided so many. I've lost friends because of that. I lost family members that never wanted to talk to me again.

• 55:18Speaker 02

  But that, that being said, horrible person, right? I am completely against someone celebrating someone's death, full stop. And yes, I remember, like, remember the Japanese thing and all, oh, you know, Pearl Harbor, remember? That's funny, that's him up the cuff, that's cool, but, but, that's who we're dealing with. But I'm not judging him. I'm just pointing out the fact, remember, a true Christian wouldn't write that, Pat, and somebody, even if somebody was around him.

• 55:43Patrick Bet-David?

  But he's not a true Christian.

• 55:44Speaker 02

  Exa- exa- well, that, remember, Adam, remember we had that?

• 55:46Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't have the standard. He himself said, "I don't think I'm going to heaven," and he joked about it. And he says, Charlie Kirk, his-

• 55:54Speaker 02

  His Lord and Savior. That's but but remember when we talked about it the last time when I said Trump said that people were like, "No, that's not what he said. You misheard what he said." Because people still believe that Trump is a Christian because he has people like, "Well, Paula White, "We could get into her later." But Pat, the the crazy thing is when I saw this story, and I promise you guys, I was sitting on my couch, reading the Gospel of Matthew. I even, I think I told Tom about this. It was a sermon on the mount on chapter 5. And this is where, remember I told you, one of the hardest things for me is praying for my enemies and and really, like, hoping that they do well to get into their minds. Matthew chapter 5, uh, chapter 43 says, "You have heard this, that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

• 56:39Speaker 02

  "That you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his son to rise on the evil "And the good and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous." If you love those who love you, what reward do you get? Okay, and it's so hard, Pat, it's so hard. It's so hard. But here's the thing. Whoever's sitting next to Trump, how are you letting him press send? How are you saying, "Go ahead and put that out"? I understand he was a horrible person. I understand. There's so many people out there that are trying to destroy him. But you can't, you can't have that attitude. You can't have that good, "I'm glad he's dead." That's it. I'm sorry, but that's not, that's not the attitude to have. I think it's a really, really bad thing for the president.

• 57:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I agree with that. Um, morally, spiritually, I never celebrate somebody's death. Um, the best thing, think about your worst enemy.

• 57:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, I've seen you celebrate a lot of Iguana's death. Like, and you have a smile on your face. I don't, don't act like a saint, Tom.

• 57:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, listen, as long as none of these Democrats don't turn out to be reptiles, they're fine, right?

• 57:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, I got it.

• 57:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Otherwise, we may have trouble.

• 57:36Patrick Bet-David?

  All right.

• 57:36Tom Ellsworth?

  So.

• 57:37Patrick Bet-David?

  One of the most feared men in for La La Dela is Tom Ellsworth and the Iguana community.

• 57:40Tom Ellsworth?

  That's exactly right. So.

• 57:42Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, they call him John Gotti.

• 57:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, that's exactly right. And so be careful. If Schumer turns out to be a snake, uh-oh. So, now then. I don't celebrate another human's death. One of the most beautiful things that ever could happen in life is someone who is, you call it an enemy, an enemy turns and changes. And the joy you have at that, say, not only is it over, but then you have the joy, right? The, the, the original joy of your salvation. That's, you know, a precious moment here on earth. And I've had that experience. You know, I've had that experience a couple of times with people that I really didn't like things, and they came to the Lord and, and it changed their life. And so I did not like to see this response, right?

• 58:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Now, everybody gonna say, now you're gonna say, but, but I'll say, but. But what Trump went through and what Robert Mueller did was horrifying. What Robert Mueller did to so many people was absolutely horrifying. And you know what? It made me think about this. Can we look at a quick clip, Pat? Of Trump reacting at the end of a long day, about to get on Air Force One and being told Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died. He was not a friend of Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

• 58:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob. Let's see it. Back up. Go ahead.

• 59:07Adam Sosnick?

  She just died? Wow.

• 59:12Adam Sosnick?

  I didn't know that. I just, you're telling me that for the first time.

• 59:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, we can't play that music, Rob.

• 59:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Rob, pull that music.

• 59:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, we can't play that.

• 59:18Tom Ellsworth?

  So Tom, what is he about to say? That was me singing in the background, YouTube. See his face, he pauses, he looks down, he holds up his hands and he said, "She had an amazing life." And he complimented her. He said, "We didn't agree, but she had an amazing life." And so you're sitting there saying, there's a compliment. He's not saying, oh.

• 59:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, there's a big difference. Did she send guys to come to your place and go through your wife's panties?

• 59:43Tom Ellsworth?

  No, that's my point about Robert Mueller. It's like, Trump is not, to people that say he's a monster, he's not. There is an example, he was gracious with the political adversary.

• 59:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, I had Anthony on the other day, right? We, we were with him last week, Skirimuchi, who is not a fan of Trump.

• 1:00:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Still?

• 1:00:00Patrick Bet-David?

  And, oh, and he said, why? He says, "Look, he called my wife out. It's permanent." Guess what?

• 1:00:06Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree.

• 1:00:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I get it.

• 1:00:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, cool. I understand it. Robert sent people to go through, this is what Besen said when he was asked about it. Rob, if you want to play the Besen clip, go for it.

• 1:00:15Speaker 06

  I ask you on a different topic about a post by President Trump from yesterday responding to the death of former Special Counsel Robert Mueller. He posted this, quote, "Robert Mueller just died. Good, I'm glad he's dead. He can no longer hurt innocent people." Do you think it's appropriate for the President of the United States to celebrate the death of an American citizen, someone who's a Bronze Star, Purple Heart recipient, and who served in Vietnam?

• 1:00:36Speaker 07

  Kristen, I was with the President in the green room at Davos, and there was a video playing of what may have been an illegal raid on his home at Mar-a-Lago. They are going through his wife's wardrobe, and I watched the look in his eye, and I think that neither one of us can understand what has been done to the President and to his family.

• 1:00:54Speaker 06

  But to the question of the President's post, I mean, Robert Mueller didn't order that raid. Is it appropriate for the President to celebrate the death of any American citizen, Mr. Secretary?

• 1:01:02Speaker 07

  Again, I think that, given what has been done to President Trump and his family, it is impossible for either of us to understand what he has been through.

• 1:01:09Speaker 06

  So you don't think that there's anything wrong with the post saying, "Good, Robert Mueller's dead"?

• 1:01:14Speaker 07

  Again, I think that we should all have a little empathy for what has been done to him and his family.

• 1:01:20Speaker 06

  All right. Treasury Secretary Scott Besen, thank you as always for being here, really appreciate you.

• 1:01:25Speaker 02

  I could have empathy and all that stuff. At the end of the day, and he's not a Christian, it's the hardest thing for me is to love and to pray for my enemies. It's the hardest, all the other stuff, it's very challenging, Pat. Lusting over, you know this because you were with me, I'm not, if you look at a girl in lust, you've already done it in your heart. It's so, this is not an easy thing, but once you go for Christ and you're like, okay, I'm all in, it's very difficult, okay? But if somebody dies for you to say, "Good," there's the difference. I would never, ever, ever be able to do that, as much as I hated him. By the way, I'm not married, nobody came to my house, nobody raided me, nobody tried to rob me. I get all that aside, the most challenging thing is just, how about this? Feel however you want to feel.

• 1:02:08Speaker 02

  You don't post it for the entire world to see, and the person next to you, whoever's in charge of your tweets or whatever, says, "Yeah, go for it." I would have felt the Christians around him would have said, "Mr. President, we know that you're not, I'm just telling you, sir, this is a horrible look. It's a very, very horrible look." That's what I'm...

• 1:02:25Tom Ellsworth?

  You can be glad it's over.

• 1:02:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:27Tom Ellsworth?

  You see a guy has hostages and there's a bank robbery...

• 1:02:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see what Adam's gonna say.

• 1:02:31Tom Ellsworth?

  And the police take actions, I'm glad that's over.

• 1:02:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, go ahead.

• 1:02:34Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, Trump basically dancing on the grave of Mueller is such a Trump thing to do. You agree with that? And it's not something that any one of us would do or condone. At the same time, if there's one person that Trump would like to direct his entire...

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• 1:03:23Adam Sosnick?

  Vengeance. It's clearly Robert Mueller. Think about it. How many of us have been president of the United States? How many of us have had our entire first term of president hijacked over Russia, Russia, Russia? Now is that Robert Mueller's fault? No. Because there was Jeff Sessions, the Attorney General, he stood down. Then it was Jim Comey, he got fired, or then it was Rod Rosenstein. But at the end of the day, Trump is directing all his energy and vengefulness and cold-blooded and ruthlessness at this one person. Now is that right? Obviously, none of us have been in that position. But something tells me that Trump knows exactly what he's doing, and I wish that Trump didn't do stuff like this.

• 1:04:05Adam Sosnick?

  But if someone, if you're the president of the United States and this guy is basically the personification of bringing you down, I understand where Trump is coming from. I actually see both sides of this.

• 1:04:17Speaker 02

  But here's my thing, Adam. Here's the thing. If you hate all these people so much and you have that much animosity, why isn't Cash Patel, why isn't the Department of Justice going after every single one of them? We all know what Obama did. We all know they spied on you. We have all the facts. You have everything. A couple, we all, a month ago, didn't he say, oh, the auto pen? I'm undoing all the auto pen. So where are the investigations? What's Cash Patel doing? What is he actually doing besides going to UFC fights and hanging out with people? Or going to hockey game.

• 1:04:45Adam Sosnick?

  That is a very simplistic way to put everything.

• 1:04:48Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no, no. It's not simplistic. It's this. Ready for this?

• 1:04:51Adam Sosnick?

  That's like you go to a hockey game. I'm like, what does Vinnie do all day?

• 1:04:53Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 1:04:54Adam Sosnick?

  You went to one game, guy.

• 1:04:55Speaker 02

  No, but here's my thing. In a different country during a time of of mayhem. Here's Adam. Here's the thing. If you hate them so much.

• 1:05:02Adam Sosnick?

  You can't go on vacation?

• 1:05:03Speaker 02

  And you, hold on.

• 1:05:03Adam Sosnick?

  You're not allowed, you have to work 24/7 your entire life?

• 1:05:06Speaker 02

  Adam, if you hate a guy so much that when he dies, you say, good, I'm hope he's dead. Why aren't you going after him right now? You are the President of the United States. Because guess what? They're openly saying when the left gets back into power, Adam, we're all, we're all done.

• 1:05:20Adam Sosnick?

  I hear you. Nobody wants that. But when you say go after him, what do you mean?

• 1:05:24Speaker 02

  I mean, meaning, ready for this? Everybody knows Russia collusion, can we all agree? Was a complete hoax with Hillary Clinton, the DNC, the dossier, all of them. And Obama used Brennan, all them to spy on people, Carter Page and Papadopoulos during the freaking presidency. Adam, it was all a lie. Hillary got a slap on the wrist and DNC got a fine.

• 1:05:43Adam Sosnick?

  We all remember this from 10 years ago.

• 1:05:44Speaker 02

  So here's my question. Why aren't you going after every single one of them? The Fauchis, the Comey was in, they dropped the thing, they dropped the freaking, the suit on him and then what the hell's going on?

• 1:05:54Adam Sosnick?

  What makes you think that they haven't taken any action on this?

• 1:05:56Speaker 02

  Well, because none of them have been arrested, Adam.

• 1:05:59Adam Sosnick?

  Well, that doesn't mean that they haven't taken any action.

• 1:06:00Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, I will tell you, it's a good, good argument as well. Good point. Because, you know, one of the things they voted for was Cash. Cash has not lived up to expectations. He was one of the guys that a lot of a mega community was super stoked about going after a lot of guys. He didn't do it. Why? Nobody knows. By the way, here's the other part that I will tell you. Is a part of it why he didn't Trump's orders? You think Cash is not going to do what Trump tells him to do?

• 1:06:29Adam Sosnick?

  Right.

• 1:06:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think Trump is saying, Cash, hang on to it. I'll tell you when to use it when we need it. Hang on to it. I'll tell you when to use it when we need it. Hang on to it. Because you know how this thing works? Like. When you're running a business and like let's just say you're running a sales organization. You'll have a lot of contests you'll run. And let's just say you have five types of contests, Tom knows this. And one contest is a, you know, small, two week or one week, boom, go, it's gonna be good. One contest is good for a month, one contest is good for 90 days, one contest is good for a year, and one contest is good for two to five years, okay, that you're running. And so you will sit there in the sales organization, you'll hang on to say, "Tikra, not right now, not right now, go."

• 1:07:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, not right now, not right now, hang on to it, go. Maybe he has these stories and he's just waiting because he looks at the calendar. Do you know, when do you think Trump knew he was gonna tweet at 7:10 saying the fact that they have good talks? And he's extending it to five days. At what point do you think Trump knew that tweet was coming out?

• 1:07:31Adam Sosnick?

  Seriously, prior to that.

• 1:07:32Patrick Bet-David?

  When do you think?

• 1:07:33Adam Sosnick?

  Saturday.

• 1:07:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, I agree, but I actually agree that it was the moment he tweeted the first tweet.

• 1:07:39Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I think so too.

• 1:07:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you understand what I'm saying? I agree that it was the first tweet. And he's like, "In 36 hours, here's what I'm gonna be saying." Boom, boom, boom, it goes out. You don't think Trump's thinking about that, so Trump's a calendar guy. And he's trying to fill stories in, like you don't think he looks at it like, you know, as a husband, I'm about to sit there, your calendar, give it to God for the, okay, this is the birthday, this is the anniversary, this is this, this is the wedding, this is that, which wedding can we go to? Out of these 40 weddings we're invited, we'll go to these two, and we can go here, we can go there, okay? And then we take the family here, we'll take the personal thing here, we'll do this here. He's looking at the calendar saying, "That announcement's gonna be made right before midterms. This is, this has gotta be done right before World Cup because we gotta be good.

• 1:08:22Patrick Bet-David?

  We can kickstart it back up the moment World Cup is done on Ju-, on July 21st, on Monday morning, I'm gonna tweet this out." You don't think he looks at that? I think he looks at that. So, yes.

• 1:08:33Patrick Bet-David?

  I think the people that are with you on Cash being a disappointment, if nothing happens at the end of his reign, nothing takes place, possibly the most disappointing FBI director that we had so much hope for. But be patient for the calendar to see what's coming out. If he drops, I guarantee you, my opinion, anything Cash is doing is based on the orders of Trump. It's not the other way around. Anything he's doing, Tom, do you agree? Anything he's doing is under orders of Trump, that Trump's gonna say, "Not right now, not right now, not right now." What do you think?

• 1:09:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Absolutely with Cash, because FBI is big. You know, could Department of Energy, or you know, the Interior, they have a program going on or something.

• 1:09:15Patrick Bet-David?

  That won't matter.

• 1:09:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean? They have something going on, yeah. But Cash Patel, no. With what's going on with Pam Bondi, and now Cash, I think anything that Cash is positioning on, he's not out there as a lone wolf. I agree.

• 1:09:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, alright.

• 1:09:30Adam Sosnick?

  Essentially what you're saying is that Cash has over-promised and under-delivered. And we'll see what happens with that. But one thing you cannot accuse Trump of is over-promising and under-delivering. He's, you know, promises made, promises kept. The question of Cash still remains to be seen.

• 1:09:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, we will see, we will see. But so far, underwhelming is...

• 1:09:52Tom Ellsworth?

  An understatement.

• 1:09:53Patrick Bet-David?

  An understatement. And, and, and, you know, I, no one's really interviewed him properly. Everyone that's interviewed him since he's been and has been soft. It's not been like, "Hey, what happened with this?" And so, they're protecting, I've invited a couple times, and at one point we were like, "Hey, are we gonna do this or not?" I wanna ask some questions.

• 1:10:11Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:10:12Patrick Bet-David?

  He's not being asked the right questions.

• 1:10:13Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, did he respond?

• 1:10:15Patrick Bet-David?

  He's not being asked the right question.

• 1:10:15Adam Sosnick?

  Did his team respond?

• 1:10:16Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, I'm not surprised that they're not doing it. But if he wants to gain a little bit of that, by the way, you know, certain jobs you have, your role is to take a lot of whipping for the leader of the company.

• 1:10:30Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:30Patrick Bet-David?

  There are certain jobs...

• 1:10:31Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, I know it, Pat.

• 1:10:32Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you definitely don't have that responsibility. But trust me, you don't have that kind of pressure. But what I mean is, in a leadership team, there are some guys that you're the one that's supposed to do the fighting. You're the one that's supposed to go take the heat. You're the one that's supposed to get all the humility, all the negative shit that's gotta be blamed on you. Almost some of the stuff that's gotta be blamed on you, even though it's not your fault.

• 1:10:58Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:59Patrick Bet-David?

  The profile of some- The fall guy. The profile of somebody that does that is not everybody's job, but every administration has to have a handful of people that understand their role. Yeah. You can't, you don't interview like that. Like this movie yesterday I watched with T. Con Dillon. It's a movie called Hail Mary with Ryan, is it Reynolds? Not, not Ryan. Ryan Gosling. Ryan Gosling. Did you watch it, Rob, or no? I've seen the previews, I haven't seen it. Freaking amazing movie. There was no politics in it, nothing. And there is a scene where they're coming and saying, "Look, 25% of the world could get killed because of the sun, okay, and what's going on with the sun." And there's these certain particles that are eating up the sun, and the sun's getting weaker and weaker, and "We need you to help us out." And Ryan Gosling is a teacher in school.

• 1:11:44Patrick Bet-David?

  It's like, "What are you talking about?" He says, "Well, you wrote this paper. We want you." There is a scene where it's like, "We want you to think about it. You have three hours to think about whether you want this job or not." And guess what the job is? You wanna know what the job is, Benny? You're going to space, okay? To fight this so the sun is gonna be okay. But guess what? Anybody that's getting on that ship, guess what they're telling you? You're not gonna make it. You're all dying. Yeah. So this guy's like, "Look, man, I'm not qualified." He says, "Look, we, we are counting on you. We think you can do it." And first phase is what? Them trying to tell him that we believe in you. And then eventually gets to a point where it's like, "Can I think about it? You have three hours." For three hours, he's walking around, and they come back and he says,

• 1:12:28Patrick Bet-David?

  "I made up my mind. I'm not going." Yeah. And they're like, "Well, you're going." Too bad, you're going, guy. Exactly. "What are you talking about?" "You're going." So they give him a, you know, uh, uh, they, he's running away, they catch him, they put the shot in him, and guess what? You're going up there. Oh, they send him against his will. And he wakes up, he's in the, it's like, "It's too late." "We believe you're it." What's the point? Sorry, buddy. Yeah. But by the way, that was a big debate on the drive back. Is that the right thing? One son is saying, "Oh, you should do it for America," and the other one's saying, "No, we should have the last decision," and it was a great debate in the car. At the level of the White House, dude, your job is to save the flipping free world. Guess what jobs you're taking? Anything and everything. So maybe FBI Director Cash Patel's the fall guy. I don't know.

• 1:13:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe he is. Maybe he's the punching bag. Maybe he's the guy that's gotta take a lot of the shots. I don't know. I don't know. But all I know is so far, the resume for whatever job he has next is not gonna be good.

• 1:13:22Speaker 02

  It's not good because if you think about it, the main thing, the main thing to me was when the president said every single one of Biden's auto pen signatures were null and void. Full stop. That means, and you know where I stand with this guy, that means Fauci, that means Fauci is open game. And what I keep reading every single week, a study just came out where 1.7 million kids, they did a test. They found that they had myocarditis and pericarditis only appeared in children that were vaccinated because their parents were freaking duped by that freaking rat. Okay? And besides turbo cancer and everything else, parents were so brainwashed because of that freaking guy that they jammed this experimental drug into their kids.

• 1:14:07Speaker 02

  And now their kids are gonna have heart problems and potentially die by the age of 40. Think about that. So if they're biding their time for something like that, we have less than three years. And I hope to God that they at least go after him. Him and Alejandro Mayorkas. Cause these are the two main people that have freaking ruined more lives than I think people understand in this freaking country. So I'm gonna wait, Pat, but I'm telling you right now, give it another year. Cause think about it, you have to investigate, you have to do it, you have to press the charges and we have to do it. Because once a Democrat comes in, guess what's gonna happen? No, you're good.

• 1:14:38Patrick Bet-David?

  But again, that's why I'm saying to you, the only idea I have is you're the punching bag, you're the fall guy.

• 1:14:45Speaker 02

  Probably.

• 1:14:46Patrick Bet-David?

  You're the party animal, Director FBI. Or you're somebody that really has a lot of stories, but the president, you coming to the president goes like this. So Tom will come to me and we'll go through stuff that we have going on. And Tom will have a folder, like literally, you may have even seen it. It will look like this. Okay? It'll look like this. Tom will come and he'll go, okay, Pat, are we ready? All right, let's go through the first one. He'll take the thing out. Here's what we're looking at. Boom, boom, boom. All right, second thing, what do we wanna do with this? It's gonna cost this much money, do we wanna do this? Third one is this, and he'll go through it, right? Do you think there is a? You know, meeting where Cash comes in and says, "Okay, Mr. President, let me tell you what 11 stories I have to go through." One is this, okay? Ah, give that a seven, okay?

• 1:15:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I got, I got a good one for you. One is this, okay, keep that one, I may need it in two weeks. Okay, this, do you see that happening? I do!

• 1:15:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, I do, it's like, well, which one do you want to go? Like, for example, Chauncey Billups, NBA. All of a sudden, oh my god, NBA, who gives a shit? But you're not think like they have like, he probably's got 40 of these stories.

• 1:15:49Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:15:50Patrick Bet-David?

  So you need a little bit of, "Hey, oh shit, we got a lot of pressure here. Drop this one, because we need to deflect and we go over here." These, these are...

• 1:15:59Speaker 02

  That's what I think Dan, you know what I think Dan Bongino was? And I love Dan Bongino. I think Dan Bongino was put in there to give the illusion of like, "Yeah, they put one of our guys..."

• 1:16:07Patrick Bet-David?

  It wasn't a job for them.

• 1:16:08Speaker 02

  It was not, that's what I'm saying. Dan Bongino to me, like, what did they, what they do? What did you do in there?

• 1:16:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, if you became the Director of FBI,

• 1:16:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You wouldn't be able to do the job.

• 1:16:16Speaker 02

  Probably not.

• 1:16:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Actually, think about it. As a Christian man, do you really think you would be able to do the job of being the Director of FBI? Honestly?

• 1:16:25Speaker 02

  No, because I told you I wouldn't be able to be the President.

• 1:16:26Patrick Bet-David?

  You wouldn't be able to do it.

• 1:16:27Speaker 02

  I don't think I'd be able to sign off on people getting murdered.

• 1:16:29Patrick Bet-David?

  And remember, it's not for everybody.

• 1:16:32Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 1:16:32Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not for everybody. Let me get to the next story. Let me get to the next story.

• 1:16:35Speaker 02

  Old-blooded.

• 1:16:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Next story I want to get to is, do we cover Cargillen or not yet, Tom? We've kind of, we've kind of covered it, right?

• 1:16:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, we've, we've kind of.

• 1:16:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, how about we do this? Let me go to Vinny's favorite guy. Rob, can you play that clip by Lindsey Graham, please? Here's Lindsey Graham. Guys, not a lot of people do I go to their desk where they have like 40 different pictures of an individual. Typically, you'll go to Tom's desk. Like, Tom has pictures of some interesting people there, right? In his office. Very, very interesting people in his office. But you go to Vinny's desk. I, I don't know if it's 40, maybe it's 50, pictures of Lindsey Graham, John Bolton, some of his favorite people in the world. Now, the pictures may be upside down or, you know, put up in a different thing, and he prays for them. He prays for them a lot. Here's Lindsey Graham. What he said should happen, okay? And you tell me how you feel about this. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:17:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Running out of money, so here's what I tell President Trump. Keep it up for a few more weeks. Take Cargillen.

• 1:17:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Where all of the resources they have to produce oil, control that island, let this regime down a vine.

• 1:17:40Speaker 06

  Is this going to though take Carg Island? Is it going to involve US troops on the ground? Let me, let me just read you something from the Atlantic does an assessment on that. They say, US troops may well take Carg Island. We believe their ability to do so, but only to endure ballistic missile strikes, drone attacks, petrochemical smoke, all without a reliable means of obtaining logistical support. The result could be a grinding war of attrition. They talk about how far away they would be from recent.

• 1:18:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm sort of tired of all this armchair quarterbacking. This has been amazing military operation. God bless the fallen.

• 1:18:11Speaker 06

  But it's a difference when we talk about troops on the ground.

• 1:18:13Tom Ellsworth?

  I trust the Marines, not that guy. I trust DOD. We got two marine expeditionary units sailing to this island. We did Iwo Jima. We can do this. The Marines, my money is always on the Marines. I don't know if you take the island or you blockade the island, but I know this, the day we control that island, this regime, this terrorist regime has been weakened, it will die on a vine. And here's what I want to do, I want to get with Chris. I want to sprint to peace. As the war winds down, I want peace to ramp up. The reason we don't have Saudi Arabia and Israel making peace is October the 7th, 2023, Iran through Hamas attacked Israel, stopping normalization. I want to take up and complete what Biden started.

• 1:18:58Tom Ellsworth?

  As soon as we get Iran defanged so they can do, never do another October 7th, I want to start up peace talks between Saudi and Israel. This year, I want a peace deal between Saudi and Israel, normalizing, ending the Arab Israeli conflict.

• 1:19:13Speaker 02

  I mean, if, if, tell me he is not the biggest bloodthirsty cheerleader right now. Just FYI for people in the battle of Iwo Jima, Tom, do you know how many Marines we lost?

• 1:19:24Tom Ellsworth?

  6,000 approximately?

• 1:19:25Speaker 02

  6,800 Marines.

• 1:19:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Almost 7,000.

• 1:19:28Speaker 02

  Almost 7,000 Marines and over 20,000 were injured. By the way, Lynn, when you talk about the, like, this is the problem, Pat, with everything that's happening with the war and Israel and this and that, these are the type of people that they should just tell as an, as an administration, shut up. Like what I said about when Israel, like you know with Israel, not Israel, just Rabbi Shmuley, he should never speak about anything about Israel. It turns people off and it makes people hate you, okay?

• 1:19:56Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm with you on that. I condone that.

• 1:19:58Speaker 02

  Oh, he's the worst. By the way, Lindsey Graham's the same guy that said, "I'm gonna go back to South Carolina, and I'm asking them to send their sons and daughters to the Middle East." Of course, because it's not his kids, okay? And when talking about Gaza, he said, and I quote, "Just flatten it." "We flatten Berlin, we flatten Tokyo, we flatten Germany, we flatten Japan." That tells you everything you need to know about this guy, okay? He has no kids, he's pleading for everybody else's sons and daughters to go out there to die. And I think that's when people need to stop and think, okay? By the way, you know he bragged, there's a video, Rob, he bragged, he's like, "I'll go, I go to Israel every two weeks, I'm there every two weeks whether I need to be or not." And a Wall Street Journal had a report that came out that said, "He was in the president's ear for weeks, and this is how he knows how to work Trump."

• 1:20:40Speaker 02

  He was talking about legacy and how Roosevelt was remembered, okay? You have to think about that. And then he was coaching, apparently, in this article, on Bibi, on how to speak to the president about pushing this type of stuff. I do not like, Lindsey Graham is one of these war-hungry warhawks, and I don't like the fact that he's that close, he's on Air Force One, whispering in the president's ear, always pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing. He has no children, okay? If anybody is going to die, it's not going to be yours. None of your blood is going to be spilled out there, and I'm disgusted with Lindsey Graham, Pat. I don't like this guy at all.

• 1:21:13Tom Ellsworth?

  I listened very closely to what he was saying. I agree with you. I don't want boots on the ground, you know.

• 1:21:18Speaker 02

  He does.

• 1:21:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Iran is not Venezuela, they weren't gonna get in and out, but I want it in and out as much as possible. And I'm not happy about this additional 200 billion, I'm not happy about where it is, but we gotta finish it, and we can't make a reverse extraction here and have it be ham-handed. Lindsey Graham was talking about, was listening to it, because he gets the security briefings. Did you hear what he said? "Two Marine Corps Expeditionary Forces."

• 1:21:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Says, I'll tell you where they are. The 31st Marine Corps Expeditionary Force is on USS Tripoli. The 11th Marine Corps Expeditionary Force is on USS Boxer that left San Diego last week and is halfway to the theater of operations. And I believe that this deadline that got extended gives time for the Tripoli to get in position to go and it gets position for the Boxer to be just days behind it. Now then, that first, that clip that they were showing on there on the news, what it was written there, they were saying, you can't do this, this, this, and you don't have support and you won't have this. You know why that's wrong? Because that's exactly what the Tripoli is gonna do. It's exactly what it's supposed to do.

• 1:22:28Tom Ellsworth?

  And, you know, that's not what I want. You know, I really, I really don't want it. I want them to be able to back off. Will the presence of the Tripoli make it so that they'll be like, okay, if they take Cargill and it cuts off all of our money, this is really, really bad. Adam. But I'm not, I'm not with Lindsey Graham.

• 1:22:45Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, I don't mind it. Uh, why don't I not mind it? Because it's not just him saying this, there's other Iran hawks who understand the, uh, what it's like to be Iran. Uh, you can put at the top of that list Lindsey Graham, but right next to him you could put Marco Rubio, who I believe is the frontrunner for 2028. You could also put Ted Cruz in there, obviously John Bolton, we know where he stands. But then you have the Iran dubs, right? You have this Joe Kent guy who just came up out of nowhere, you have the Chuck Schumers of the world, allegedly Tulsi, uh, Tucker Camp. So what I know about Trump is this. He believes in a team of rivals, don't you think so, Pat?

• 1:23:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Absolutely.

• 1:23:25Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:23:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Absolutely.

• 1:23:26Adam Sosnick?

  So, like, let's just give an example. Ready? You want to do the big event for the vault. I'm not gonna reveal anything.

• 1:23:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:23:34Adam Sosnick?

  Tom has one, obviously.

• 1:23:38Adam Sosnick?

  Party he'd like to do.

• 1:23:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:39Adam Sosnick?

  I have a different party that I would recommend. Vinny doesn't drink, doesn't want to party.

• 1:23:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, the after-party is gonna be sick.

• 1:23:46Adam Sosnick?

  I know, but I'm not, I'm not.

• 1:23:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah, I get that. Let's see if you can.

• 1:23:48Adam Sosnick?

  You know which one, you know which one Tom would pick.

• 1:23:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:51Adam Sosnick?

  You know which one I would pick.

• 1:23:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:52Adam Sosnick?

  You know which one maybe Vinny would pick.

• 1:23:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom wants Wayne Newton's house. I'll put that out there.

• 1:23:56Adam Sosnick?

  Of course, of course. I want to go to the Playboy Mansion. We all get it. But then you say, what do you think? What do you think? What do you think? Like you always do. And we all give you our opinion. But then, when I go, you know what, Pat? I'm actually with Tom on this one. You go, oh, didn't see that one coming. I go, yeah, actually can see one. Why that would be a better event. What you're doing is filtering out all the different opinions. You don't think that Trump knows that Lindsey Graham is pretty aggressive? You also don't think that he knows that someone like Tulsi Gabbard is sort of dovish on Iran? He wants all perspectives. So Lindsey Graham is playing his role as the aggressive war hawk. I get it. You know, bad metaphor with Iwo Jima. I get it. But at the same time, he's willing to hear all different sort of opinions.

• 1:24:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You're giving credit to the president.

• 1:24:42Adam Sosnick?

  I'm giving credit to the president, yes.

• 1:24:44Speaker 02

  But do you think it's, do you think?

• 1:24:46Adam Sosnick?

  No, Vinny. I just felt like yelling.

• 1:24:48Speaker 02

  I'm just saying, what was your, what was your initial thing that you said?

• 1:24:50Adam Sosnick?

  You should have listened harder, boy.

• 1:24:52Speaker 02

  No, you didn't. It doesn't bother you that he's saying?

• 1:24:54Adam Sosnick?

  It doesn't bother me because that's who he is. A leopard doesn't change his stripes. He's been Iran hawk. He's not going to stop being Iran hawk. And now that we have our foot on their neck, you think he's going to be soft on Iran?

• 1:25:05Speaker 02

  No, no, but, but does it bother you that this guy brags about going to Israel two, all the time? It talks to the, to another leader of another country of how to persuade our president. Tries to persuade our president by saying, hey, what would Roosevelt do? To try, and then now he's saying, hey, boots on the ground, send the troops. And guess what? I pray for the fallen, but.

• 1:25:26Speaker 05

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• 1:25:55Speaker 02

  Adam, do you think he gives a damn if we lose 10,000 American soldiers?

• 1:25:59Adam Sosnick?

  I would like to think that a sitting senator would mind if we lost 10,000 soldiers.

• 1:26:06Speaker 02

  Look at me, I don't think he cares.

• 1:26:07Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, well that's your opinion. By the way, the people of South Carolina that know him for the last 30 years he's been in Congress will probably have a different say on that.

• 1:26:16Patrick Bet-David?

  He's asking South Carolinians to send their sons and daughters.

• 1:26:20Adam Sosnick?

  But why do they keep voting for him? They know him a little bit better than us.

• 1:26:23Speaker 02

  Well, I don't know.

• 1:26:24Adam Sosnick?

  I think we're being a little hyperbolic.

• 1:26:25Speaker 02

  Let me ask you a question though. Do you think he's America first or Israel first? Honestly. Lindsey Graham.

• 1:26:31Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, Vinny, do me a favor.

• 1:26:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm just asking you.

• 1:26:33Adam Sosnick?

  Lindsey Graham is an American senator. Tell me what that even means.

• 1:26:36Speaker 02

  What do you mean?

• 1:26:37Adam Sosnick?

  Why would Lindsey Graham be Israel first? Explain this. No, genuinely explain that to me. I'm not being an ass.

• 1:26:42Speaker 02

  Adam, he flies there every two weeks whether he has to or not. He's pushing for wars. He's very, very pro-Israel. I hear more about Israel in regard to him than America. Do you remember the hurricane that happened? There was a hurricane, I forgot the name of it, Pat. Do you remember what he said? He came on on camera and he was like, "Hey, I know that people, we lost like 49 people." Rob, do you have that clip?

• 1:27:02Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 1:27:02Speaker 02

  This is, 49 Americans just died. Look at what Lindsey Graham says.

• 1:27:09Speaker 07

  You know, I've been going all over South Carolina like most people, I hadn't slept much. But look what's going on in Israel. Our friends in Israel are surrounded by people that want to kill them, destroy them. A second Holocaust in the making and Biden says be proportional.

• 1:27:23Speaker 02

  This is during a United States hurricane that just happened. He goes, "Hey, I know, you're gonna stop him, Rob. Americans are dead, but Israel's right now, come on, bro. Come on."

• 1:27:33Adam Sosnick?

  Let me just say this. If the people of South Carolina felt the way that you felt, they would have voted him out 10 times over. Why do they keep voting for him? Maybe they know him.

• 1:27:43Speaker 02

  When's the last time you voted?

• 1:27:44Adam Sosnick?

  It's every four years, Vinny.

• 1:27:45Speaker 02

  Okay, so guess what?

• 1:27:46Adam Sosnick?

  Sorry, every, so senators every six years? Anyway, the, the, the next question is, what does that even mean? Israel first or America first? He's born and raised in America, he's American. You can be two things at once. Who do you love more? Your mom or your brother?

• 1:28:01Speaker 02

  They're, I love them equally.

• 1:28:02Adam Sosnick?

  Bingo!

• 1:28:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:28:04Adam Sosnick?

  So you can do a couple of different things at once. Pat, who do you love more? The people of America or the people of Iran? You love them both. The point is, no, it doesn't have to be one or the other. Am I America first or my Israel first? America to me is like my mom? And Israel is like my grandma? If I had to choose, I'm gonna pick my mom. But that doesn't mean I don't love my grandma. This whole, like, elementary, are you America first? Or are you America first or Israel first? You're able to do a couple of different things here.

• 1:28:32Speaker 02

  Did you follow it?

• 1:28:33Adam Sosnick?

  Sorry grandma.

• 1:28:34Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 1:28:35Adam Sosnick?

  I love my grandma.

• 1:28:36Patrick Bet-David?

  When you take that angle, you, you create, like, right now, you know what's gonna happen with mom and brother?

• 1:28:40Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, they're all, they're watching.

• 1:28:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you realize that's it? We just lost his mom to watch.

• 1:28:43Adam Sosnick?

  Let me tell you something, you pick your mother.

• 1:28:46Speaker 02

  I, I am.

• 1:28:46Adam Sosnick?

  Listen Vic, you've been a great time buddy.

• 1:28:49Patrick Bet-David?

  They're about to get here.

• 1:28:50Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, I mean, I, I, I don't wanna put you on the spot. Are you America first or are you Iran first? Or are you able to do both?

• 1:28:57Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I can't do both. I am America first, period.

• 1:29:00Speaker 02

  Bingo.

• 1:29:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so where? I'm not even kidding.

• 1:29:02Adam Sosnick?

  Are you Iran second?

• 1:29:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't even think that way.

• 1:29:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can't.

• 1:29:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I don't even think that way. Let me tell you what I'm for. Uh, uh, like, I've never a, a, answered this question, but I will comfortably say, nothing is above America and it's not even close.

• 1:29:19Adam Sosnick?

  I agree with you.

• 1:29:20Patrick Bet-David?

  When I tell you it's not even close, it's not even close. No. Uh, uh, there is, there is four places that have a place in my heart. I'm Armenian, my mother's Armenian, okay? She's officially in Florida, which is very exciting. Finally, finally she moved here, she's in Florida, we're happy to have her here. It was great going and seeing her the other day and they landed at 2 AM in the morning. It's the first time where everybody is now officially within a half a mile radius. We've never had this in our entire life. The last time the entire family lived within a half a mile of each other was 1989 when we lived in the same house in Iran. This has never happened. So it's, it has happened like this for a while. So Armenian, Assyrian, my dad, I'm a very proud son of Gabriel Bedavid. I, I admire him, I love him.

• 1:30:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I wanna make sure, so I have a very, uh, uh, uh, close pride in the Assyrian community. I was born and raised in Iran. And the Iranian people are some of the most incredible people in the world. I love them. They're fantastic. But the greatest country in the world. That... Gave me the greatest gifts I have is America. Period. And it ain't even close. When I tell you it ain't even close, it ain't even close. Now, this doesn't mean anything with Lindsey Graham and your breakdown the way when you went through it. Uh, uh, you know, I don't know if I subscribe to that. I don't subscribe to that. To me, it's very different. But the part that you made a very good point, Adam, is the following. This is what I love about it. You know how hard it is to lead a team of rivals?

• 1:30:46Patrick Bet-David?

  You know how hard it is to lead a team of rivals? And knowing what people are going to say, Tom, and who they're gonna be siding with and where they're gonna be at, it is so hard to do that. So hard to do that, to lead a team of rivals. And that's what he's doing. But I want to get to next story here. Folks, if you're traveling, if you're traveling and you're at the airport, things are not looking good. Rob, if you want to play some of these clips, we got a couple clips to go through. So, TSA, I don't know how many videos I saw. Vinny, did you see some of these? I know you retweeted one of them.

• 1:31:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Atlanta, Georgia.

• 1:31:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you kidding me? You look at these videos and it almost doesn't look real. They're walking all, I saw one, the guys walking all the way down. Three hour wait at TSA.

• 1:31:32Tom Ellsworth?

  In the basement.

• 1:31:32Patrick Bet-David?

  To travel. Three hour wait at the TSA. Tom, you went to the airport this morning, you were there at 3:45 in the morning, okay? To drop off your daughter. What was it like when you guys got there this morning? This is, by the way, you know, Middle Eastern fathers, we could have a 30 minute flight from Burbank to Vegas. My dad wants to get there six hours before. If you're Middle Eastern, you know what I'm talking about. Dad, the flight's at 2:00. Let's get there 6:00 AM. We have plenty of time. We'll get there at 1:45. No, we'll get there at 6:00 AM. So you got there at 3:45. What was the airport like this morning?

• 1:32:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, spring break's over for Bailey. Back to classes today. So she, um, wanted to be on the, the first flight, the early flight, for two reasons. One, she gets her early enough for class. But second, we were kind of worried about this. Um, so we got to Fort Lauderdale, to the Southwest Terminal at 3:45. Why? Cause TSA opens at 4:00 AM. And then she had like a 5:30 flight, so she wanted plenty of time to be first in line. We pull up to the curb. And you've been there, right? We've all been to Fort Lauderdale.

• 1:32:30Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:32:30Tom Ellsworth?

  The cars were too deep. You know what I'm saying? Two cars deep. Stopped side by side, you know what I'm saying? We're at the curb, unloading people and everything. And I'm like, oh my goodness, look at the crowd. And so we get her out. Kim weaves into the curb. I get her out. I walked through the double doors with her so I could look inside. And I'm like, oh, boy. I said, Bailey, call us and let us know. If you get stuck and you don't make the flight, you know, call us. We'll loop around and get you. Um, we'll come back. But it was huge. And she texted us and let us know TSA didn't get open until 4:15. Then TSA pre-check, you know, got open after that. And she got through and she made her flight. But she says, I was looking back, Dad, and there were people. I know they didn't make it.

• 1:33:14Tom Ellsworth?

  I know they didn't make it because the number of people that were there. And that was just, by the way, that's the first flight and the first people that were at Fort Lauderdale Airport today. The first. Can you imagine what it's like right now? Molt with the whole airport open and it's not just the first flights leaving. Flights are coming in, going out. I just can't imagine what it's like right now. Um, and this is, I, you know, thank you, Elon Musk and other people who are offering to help and doing things. But I'll tell you, Pat, I've never seen it like that.

• 1:33:46Speaker 02

  Do you know how much of, you know, how, I don't think people understand how much of a problem and how much of a soft target this opens up, Tom? That's, these are crowded, crowded airports. They don't have the freaking security. TSA, by the way, the TSA people that are showing up, Tom, they're not getting a paycheck. They're coming just because of the goodness of their freaking hearts. And I want everybody to understand this. Everybody, wherever you are listening to this, take a second and understand this is what happens when Democrats care more about power than your life in this country. Okay, we keep talking about America and America first. They don't give a damn. Okay, they don't want to approve the Save America Act. You know why? Because it's going to help illegals vote.

• 1:34:28Speaker 02

  They need these illegals to vote in elections to keep the power full stop. Okay, we just want people to prove that they're citizens and the Democrats. Oh, really? Guess what? Shut it down. Shut it down. And anybody telling you otherwise is full of you know what. Okay. Thank God Elon Musk is at least offering to pay this TSA agents. But Tom, it's you. Would you feel safe? Like, I get it. My mom's my mom and my sister are coming here on Wednesday. I don't feel safe for these people. There's packed. It's packed with people. It takes one person to just creep in there and do something stupid.

• 1:35:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I agree with that because these crowds were waiting for the baggage drop at Southwest. They're waiting for the kiosk at Southwest. And then they're also waiting for the TSA. And so if I was some loon walking in, man, it is a mass casualty environment because there's no security out there. There are cops out there that are more worried about all these vehicles that are stopping at the curb. Hey, if you've dropped your person, get out of here. You know what I'm saying? They're trying to keep the traffic moving. But that is a not just a soft target. That's a juicy target. It's terrible. I would hate to see something like that. But this is this is what you have now. And at least they've said, hey, ICE is going to come. And they're going to do some of the crowd control and

• 1:35:45Tom Ellsworth?

  some things like this to help. But you know what? We need that the we need that the shutdown to be over. And I saw a tweet. I'm not going to repeat it. But I am going to say the name. It was AOC. There's a tweet that was attributed to her from a year ago. And if the tweet was true, she would her sentiments were very clear that she was pleased that the American people need this pain so they could be broken for their side. And so that if that's really what her position was, that disgusts me.

• 1:36:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Rob, while you're finding that, can you do me a favor? So today, this morning, right now, at ATL, you know how long the line is right now at ATL allegedly, based on what these reports are coming in? Six hours. Six hours. Rob, is this ATL?

• 1:36:34Speaker 02

  Yes, sir.

• 1:36:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it. Watch this.

• 1:36:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Number one busiest airport, I think now?

• 1:36:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at this, Vinnie. This is the TSA line is at the baggage coins is where it's going to now. They're like, hey, just line up because they have to get that going. And then Rob, go to the other one. I sent you one from one hour ago. I sent you one from literally one hour ago. Not this one. The other one, that's the one right there. Watch this one. Go ahead. Vinnie.

• 1:36:58Speaker 02

  That's outside of ATL. Oh, my God. That one machine, one person, that's all it takes.

• 1:37:06Adam Sosnick?

  This is the, this is the Democrat Party. This is it.

• 1:37:08Patrick Bet-David?

  You're in the line that is outside going in, then goes around baggage claim, then goes around.

• 1:37:16Adam Sosnick?

  Oh my God.

• 1:37:18Patrick Bet-David?

  So anyways, that's pretty nasty. Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:37:21Adam Sosnick?

  It's ugly, man. At the end of the day, it comes down to one question. How long is somebody willing to work for free? Cause these people aren't getting paid, right?

• 1:37:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Nope.

• 1:37:31Adam Sosnick?

  Whether it's the staff, or it's the airport, it's TSA, it's security. So at what point are you gonna be like, yeah dude, I don't know what's gonna happen here, but. Cause here's how I think it works. You know, some people start saying, yeah, I'm not feeling so good. I'm calling out sick. I'm gonna take my, uh, my two week vacation now. All right. And then the loyal people were like, man, this is my job. I've been doing this 20 years. I, that's all I know. All right, I'm, I'm staying, man. I'm gonna stay at the job. All right, two weeks, three weeks. At what point is someone like, dude, no. And then the boss is like, I'm telling you, it's happening soon. Stay, don't leave. All right, we're, are they gonna get back pay? I assume they're gonna get back pay, right?

• 1:38:10Speaker 02

  I, I don't know.

• 1:38:10Adam Sosnick?

  That's gonna happen, right, Tom?

• 1:38:12Speaker 02

  I don't know how.

• 1:38:12Adam Sosnick?

  There's gonna be back pay?

• 1:38:14Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I believe there's a back pay.

• 1:38:16Adam Sosnick?

  Well, you know, they say payback's a.

• 1:38:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:38:18Adam Sosnick?

  So let's see what happens there. But you know what I think is gonna happen?

• 1:38:21Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:38:21Adam Sosnick?

  I think, uh, the Elon Musks of the world, who are basically saying that they're gonna pay back pay or whatever it is. All the, uh, the chat GPTs, the, the, uh, all the AI people are gonna look and say, it's our perfect opening, guys. Why do we need people doing security? Let's just make more AI, make more robots. They're not gonna call out sick. They're not gonna worry about back pay. So this might end up, uh, biting these people, uh, you know, our TSA workers and our employees, end up biting them in the, in, in, in the butt, so to speak, because they're gonna come up with ways to basically outmaneuver humans having to be the security guard.

• 1:39:00Speaker 02

  But think of the message that the Democratic Party is saying to the American people. They're saying, we are going to fight to have the elections be able, like, we don't want people to prove that they belong in the country. That is, and cause guess what? You think the president's gonna budge? Pat, you think the president's gonna budge for them? This is it.

• 1:39:19Tom Ellsworth?

  What is the core issue with it? Because DHS has not been funded. Is that what this comes down to?

• 1:39:23Speaker 02

  Partially shut down.

• 1:39:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, and DHS is TSA, ICE, immigration, border. All of them. All these things, you know, sort of catch all on umbrella. So, and what are they exactly arguing about in Congress right now?

• 1:39:33Speaker 02

  The main, the main argument, Adam, the main one, don't let people try to fool you, is we want, they are saying, we want you to prove that you are a citizen. Remember that debate that was going on? But if I was married, they played that whole game.

• 1:39:47Tom Ellsworth?

  You're saying this is part of the SAVE Act?

• 1:39:48Speaker 02

  The SAVE America Act has the major to do with this?

• 1:39:51Tom Ellsworth?

  The voting.

• 1:39:52Speaker 02

  It's all, Adam, at the end of the day.

• 1:39:54Tom Ellsworth?

  So they're tying the voting to, and what do the Democrats want to do?

• 1:39:57Speaker 02

  They don't want you to, what do you mean? Go look at.

• 1:40:00Tom Ellsworth?

  I know that they want.

• 1:40:00Speaker 02

  They want everybody, they don't want, they want everybody to be able to vote and not prove your citizenship. Full stop. That is it. And this is what they're gonna make people suffer.

• 1:40:09Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think that's been, Adam, on that point, is that what you're asking? I don't think. No, is that what the core crux is through it? Is the DHS not being funded because of the SAVE Act?

• 1:40:17Speaker 02

  Yes, this is the whole thing.

• 1:40:18Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a combination of things, but it's the time honored tradition that Chuck Schumer has have of create a shutdown and blame the other guy and then let issues happen to this department, that department. American people can't go to the national parks because they're closed and then blame the administration. That has been Chuck Schumer's tactic and I'm not making, I am not hyperbolic here. You go back and look, that has very carefully been his tactic, going back to the first Trump administration, where they actually argued about it in the Oval Office, where Trump said, I'll take it Trump.

• 1:40:51Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:40:51Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll take it Trump. Make that me. And there are Democrats that are now coming out against Schumer, saying, look, this guy is long in the tooth and we can't have this because they're concerned about it. They don't want that. Well, that was what you said when you interviewed President Trump. You said that was your favorite part of his administration, the reality TV thing.

• 1:41:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Is that sort of a correlation of what's going on here?

• 1:41:11Speaker 02

  We don't know. I mean, this is Chuck Schumer here. If you want to see what he's saying, go ahead, Rob. And by the way, there's a lot of people that want him out, a lot of people that want him out. Go for it.

• 1:41:32Speaker 07

  On the motion I am bringing before the senate today. It is unacceptable for workers and travelers in entire airports to get taken hostage in political games.

• 1:41:44Tom Ellsworth?

  By you.

• 1:41:44Adam Sosnick?

  By you.

• 1:41:45Speaker 07

  But that's what the Republicans are doing.

• 1:41:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:47Speaker 07

  It is unacceptable to say we will only pay TSA workers if it is attached to a bill that funds ICE with no reforms. But that's what the Republicans have been doing. Democrats want to pay TSA workers ASAP with no strings attached. A yes vote would do that. That's the first time in this chamber we'll have an opportunity to vote. Yes or no. On whether you want to pay TSA workers ASAP.

• 1:42:19Speaker 02

  This is so. Are you, are you lis- is everybody out there listening to what he's saying? They want, they don't want ICE to get funded because he wants reform. They're again sticking up for illegals. ICE's job is to get rid of illegal aliens and the fact that they're not. And he's fighting for them to be able to vote in the election. It's so blatantly obvious what this freaking guy is doing. Just like this guy too freaking Hakeem Jeffries. I want people to understand. Because they have no policies, because they have no actual leaders, they have to rely on illegal votes. Plain and simple. If you don't see it, you're freaking blind. That is it.

• 1:42:58Speaker 02

  If you're standing in a line right now at an airport and you're freaking pissed off, it's because of Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries. It's because of these people. It's because of the AOCs. Plain and simple. There's no like smoke and mirrors around it. That's what it is, Adam. It's, it's, it sounds like it's crazy, but that's all it is.

• 1:43:14Adam Sosnick?

  There's a large percentage of the country that has TDS.

• 1:43:17Speaker 02

  Oh my.

• 1:43:17Adam Sosnick?

  And they're gonna blame it on Trump regardless. I know that you think this is obviously all on the Dems and I totally get that. But there's gonna be people waiting in line. They're gonna be like, thanks Trump.

• 1:43:27Speaker 02

  No, it's not.

• 1:43:27Adam Sosnick?

  Cause half these people don't even know who Chuck Schumer is.

• 1:43:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, it's not Trump because Trump's not gonna.

• 1:43:30Adam Sosnick?

  But that's, they're gonna think that.

• 1:43:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. But the core of the argument is correct. If you don't have a platform that you can sell, and this is a point that Pat's made many times. If you don't have a platform that you can sell to the voters.

• 1:43:41Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:43:41Tom Ellsworth?

  So that, and they're, and the Dems don't. They're not buying what you're selling.

• 1:43:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Then you need mob rule and more mob just to blindly vote. Unbelievable. So if you can't sell the independents that are there, then you just need a bigger mob on the other side to blindly vote. And that's what illegal immigration does.

• 1:44:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, look, the reality of it is, this is the folks that are traveling today going to airports. Man, it's a terrible time to be. This is 38 days of shutdown.

• 1:44:11Tom Ellsworth?

  How long you think this lasts, Pat?

• 1:44:12Patrick Bet-David?

  FYI, United Airlines just announced that they're decreasing their amount of flights. And some people are saying some airports may shut down during this time.

• 1:44:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:44:23Patrick Bet-David?

  And this is actual, it's gotten to that point. I don't know if there's a story that says that, Rob, but I read it somewhere, that some airports are planning on fully shutting down and saying, until we get it together. Can you imagine if all of a sudden there's no travel? Some smaller airports are saying, this is not sustainable. This is not sustainable. Rob, do you have that? Is it a story or a clip that we have?

• 1:44:43Adam Sosnick?

  I have a clip, 47. Hang on.

• 1:44:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, he's looking it up. The airports would only be open for emergency landings only and emergency medical service like medevac transports.

• 1:44:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:44:53Tom Ellsworth?

  But all the regular flights would be, nope.

• 1:44:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:44:56Speaker 07

  We're doing absolutely everything we can. We have a national deployment office force and we've fully depleted that. So at this point, we're fully stretched. And so, frankly, there's not much else we can do. As the weeks continue, if this continues, it's not hyperbole to suggest that we may have to quite literally shut down airports, particularly smaller ones, if call out rates go up and we can't, a lot of these officers can't afford to come in. I talked to one officer this week. She's a single mother and she has a special needs child and she can't afford to pay for her special needs child's childcare. So again, we're, I believe it's frankly unconscionable that we have said to Democrats that are playing, you know, they're holding our folks' financial livelihood hostage over.

• 1:45:40Adam Sosnick?

  Political games, political partisanship, so we really need to get back to normal order. Well, don't you think this is gonna be, you know, and if you look at the capitalism, that this is gonna be opening up other options in the marketplace that people are gonna do, whether it's planes, trains, automobiles, people are gonna find a way to go where they wanna go. Obviously, you know, listen, there's worse things than waiting a couple extra hours in the airport. Nobody wants to do that. I'm not condoning this. I'm not saying this is good at all. But if you need to get from Florida to Atlanta, alright, so maybe you take a train, maybe you take a bus, maybe you're driving, I get it. Nobody wants to do that, or you get to the airport a couple hours early. It all sucks, but people are gonna still maneuver and basically strategize to do what basically fits their life.

• 1:46:23Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a disruption to lifestyle.

• 1:46:24Adam Sosnick?

  Of course, I get it.

• 1:46:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You want me to take a Greyhound from New York to LA? It's three days.

• 1:46:29Adam Sosnick?

  I get it.

• 1:46:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Two and a half days.

• 1:46:30Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, that's, nobody wants to do that, but in those instances, you're gonna fly and you're gonna go to the airport

• 1:46:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:36Adam Sosnick?

  three hours earlier.

• 1:46:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam, it's worse than that.

• 1:46:38Adam Sosnick?

  From Miami to Orlando, maybe you just drive or take the

• 1:46:40Tom Ellsworth?

  It's not a long line at TSA. People are missing flights. They're getting all the way up there and they miss the flight. They've paid money for that. They gotta get back to school, they have a business trip, they're a salesperson, they have to go see, you know, an accountant. The people are spending not just the inconvenience, they're not getting there.

• 1:46:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, what about, and ready for this? You know how many times I've traveled, how many times I've traveled, Adam, where I've been on an airplane with somebody that's medically transporting an organ for someone that needs a surgery on the opposite side of the nation? And they come on the flight, they bring the heart on ice, they get on the plane, they go, people like

• 1:47:14Adam Sosnick?

  Well, let's get that guy first in line, okay? I mean, you're gonna bring up the most absurd, bringing organs on the plane guy.

• 1:47:21Speaker 02

  That guy's missing a flight.

• 1:47:22Adam Sosnick?

  That guy can go first.

• 1:47:22Speaker 02

  That guy's missing a flight and this all is a party that has nothing left. They have nothing.

• 1:47:26Adam Sosnick?

  I'm not defending the Democrats at all.

• 1:47:29Speaker 02

  I'm not saying you are.

• 1:47:30Adam Sosnick?

  I'm just saying.

• 1:47:30Speaker 02

  I'm not saying you are, but this is a

• 1:47:32Adam Sosnick?

  But this isn't like the end of the world.

• 1:47:33Speaker 02

  No, it's not the end of the world, but Adam, it's not gonna stop because the president's not gonna stop. He's not gonna give in, and he shouldn't. But this is again, I want everybody to understand who the hell is doing it. It's your freaking beloved Democratic Party. They'd rather burn it all down, Adam, they'd rather burn it all down than take away the votes from an illegal alien.

• 1:47:50Adam Sosnick?

  I'm with you on that.

• 1:47:51Speaker 02

  Period.

• 1:47:51Adam Sosnick?

  I'm with you on that, Capitán.

• 1:47:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, alright, let's go to the next story. Story I wanna go to, Rob, is Massachusetts loses billions in income taxes after the millionaire tax. So it's page 20, I don't know if you got a clip on it?

• 1:48:03Adam Sosnick?

  I do not.

• 1:48:03Patrick Bet-David?

  You do? So let me go to this.

• 1:48:05Adam Sosnick?

  There should be a chart with it, right?

• 1:48:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, there should be, Rob, if you want to pull that up. Residents exiting Massachusetts took a net of $4.2 billion in adjusted gross income with them in 2023, one of the largest totals in the country after tax on millionaires took effect. The amount was an 8% year-over-year increase, according to Internal Revenue Service IRS data, that even as the total number of taxpayers leaving the state slowed, this was the first year that residents were subject to a 4% sure tax on incomes over $1 million. After voters approved the levy in 2022 to fund schools and transportation, several Democrats let states that have since approved or are also considering similar tax on top earners, partly as a way to make up for federal funding.

• 1:48:52Patrick Bet-David?

  What a ridiculous plan that they have here. Supporters of the Massachusetts measure hail the more than $6 billion in revenue that's brought to the state coffers. Critics warn that it's driving away entrepreneurs, even if Massachusetts lacks the high-profile departure seen in California, which is weighing a wealth tax, or Washington, which enacted a millionaire tax earlier this month. This is from Bloomberg, Tom.

• 1:49:14Tom Ellsworth?

  So, look at this chart. And is charted up for the viewers, Rob? Yep. Okay. So you see what happened, Pat? Look at this, 2020, 21, 22. That's COVID. The first big year after COVID, where everything was returning with the big, you know, bounce in the stock market, was 2023. We all learned how to pronounce Nvidia in 2023, all the people that didn't already know about it. And there's the first year of the millionaire. By the way, do you notice what Massachusetts has refused to do? They won't report 2024. It's worse. It's worse. Bloomberg only has the data by 2023. We're waiting for Massachusetts to actually talk about 2024. It's even worse. And this goes to show you, you can only tax other people's money while those other people

• 1:49:58Tom Ellsworth?

  still have money, or they still live in your state and you can take their money. And Massachusetts is seeing that. This is a case study, just like Greece was a case study in what happens, this goes back 17 years ago, the austerity programs, remember that, Pat? Where all the people rioted because they were told you have to retire three Years later, four years later, five years later, and you're gonna get less benefits when you do. And they said, why? Because we're Greece, we're broke. And then all those austerity riots broke out. People were burning cars and stuff like that. And people didn't want to look at that case study and say, really, could what happened in Greece could happen in Italy? Could that happen in Portugal? What happened in Spain? Sure, it could. Now, this is the case study. This is what it's gonna look like in California. And you know what?

• 1:50:41Tom Ellsworth?

  This, you know where these shortfalls are gonna come from? They're gonna come from the American taxpayer. Because if they get a blue president in place, that blue president is gonna tax the rest of us, or just run the deficit and send the money back there. Or the states are gonna have to issue more bonds. But the question is, who's gonna buy those bonds? This is, this is, this is a case study in the, in F A F O.

• 1:51:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 1:51:05Adam Sosnick?

  Wow. I'm just trying to think of the best analogy here, because we understand what happens when you tax the rich, they're just gonna get the hell out of there. But, I mean, look, look around us. We have all these great people that work in this company. And some people are better than others, you know, when we did the Ritz Carlton training pad, what was it called? You have the three different levels. You have the people who are, uh...

• 1:51:25Patrick Bet-David?

  The, the, the superstars.

• 1:51:27Adam Sosnick?

  The superstars, the, the, the average guys.

• 1:51:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Constantly against virtually everything.

• 1:51:31Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly. So essentially what they're doing in these states, whether it's Massachusetts, whether it's New York, whether it's California, whether it's Washington, all these big blue states, we love the big blue states, they're basically saying to their best, hardest workers, we're gonna need you to work harder, we're gonna need you to work longer hours, but we're not gonna pay you anymore. And then these people are like, alright, man, like, I like living here, I like working here, but alright, I'll do it. How long is that gonna last? So when they see people making the exact same amount of them, average marginal workers, the caves as you call them, constantly against virtually everything, and they're just basically getting in at nine and leaving at the 459 Club, where these guys make the exact same amount, are working from nine to nine, and they're getting 12-hour days for the same

• 1:52:15Adam Sosnick?

  pay, they're like, dude, I'm your best worker, and this is how you're treating me? You know what, Pat? I'm outta here. And they go find another job, at another company, at another state, and now you're left with who? The crappy workers. Because you're pushing the people who work the best and the hardest out of there. And they're saying, I wanna be here. I love this company, I love this state, but man, you're making it hard for me. And you know what? Peace, I'm outta here. And that's essentially the analogy.

• 1:52:43Tom Ellsworth?

  If you look at the Massachusetts thing, there's a, there's a, there's a thing that's like a, uh, what do you, what are those traps it would make, you know, they would- Booby traps? The bamboo traps in the jungle and they- Booby traps, spikes on the- Yep, and then they would put the leaves over it and you would walk in, you fell in the hole. Well, guess, guess what's happening? Everybody gets to be rich in Massachusetts. Here's how: this year, 10 millionaires, we're gonna tax you. Next year, oh, you're just a 5 millionaire, now you're rich. Couple of years later, oh, you're a 1 millionaire, you're rich. Wait till it gets down to say, oh, you inherited your parents' house and you're a 750,000. You have, you're rich. Be careful about these taxes because guess what?

• 1:53:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Step by step by step by step, everybody who's been responsible, everybody that's built jobs, everybody's built a company, everybody's built value, those producers all get declared rich in sequential, and it all starts with one thing. It's so unfair for you, let's tax the rich. And then one day, they come for you and they say, no, you're rich. And now I'm here for you, wait a minute, wait a minute. Yeah, I only made 750,000 dollars.

• 1:53:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, by the way, Tom, the AGI net flow that we're talking about, I went here to see it. They haven't reported it for any other state in 24 and 25. Based on how the IRS reports, so I'm kinda looking at that to see what it is. What is showing, when you look at which states are the biggest winners of gaining the most people and losing the most people, gain, number one. This is a trend of 24 to 25. Number one state with the biggest gains of people moving there is Florida.

• 1:54:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Really?

• 1:54:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Number two is Texas, three is Carolina, north, four is South Carolina, so both of them are gaining, five is Tennessee, then Arizona, why they're moving, lower taxes is number one, business friendly environments, warm climate housing. Biggest losers of people losing people? Guess what's number one? California. Number two is New York. Three is Illinois. What's number four? Massachusetts. That's right. And then it's Jersey. Why they're losing? Leaving high taxes, cost of living, remote work flexibility, regulatory environments. I mean, when you look at this stuff and you realize, some bad policies have consequences. And by the way, it gets to this point. So at least when you're Democrat, Republican, whatever you are,

• 1:55:08Patrick Bet-David?

  independent, libertarian, guess what area? We don't care where you are politically. Sports.

• 1:55:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You want your team to win, right? I was looking at, you know what I was looking at yesterday, Rob? The dumbest part. I went on ESPN.com and I went on standings. And then when I went on standings, Vinny, I could not believe, just go to NBA first at the top. Yeah, and then go to standings, they right there. I'll tell you. And look what I was looking at. Zoom in a little bit. Zoom in. Zoom in. Can you zoom in or it doesn't let you? Okay. Look at this. Go to PPG and opponent PPG. Do you see it? Vinny, do you see? Detroit Pistons are averaging 117 points a game and their defense is giving up 109. Look at the best defense. Keep going down. You saw 107 is Celtics. Oklahoma's 107 and a half. Keep going down. Keep going down. Keep going down. Keep going down.

• 1:56:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you realize the best defense in the NBA? NBA gives up 107 points. What a horrible product. Horrible. What a horrible product it is, right? But if there's one thing that we all agree with, that's what? It's sports. Like, hey, man, we want to win. Well, guess what? Seahawks GM comes out and says, listen, guys. You know, he's warning Washington's new million-

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• 1:56:53Patrick Bet-David?

  And her tax could hurt free agency recruiting. The guy's like, I want to bring, I get judged based on bringing in talent. I'm talking to these talent. And they don't want to come because the new taxes. Imagine his problem. So, so now somebody could sit down and say, look. The Democrats don't want the Seahawks to win a championship. Think about that. The Democrats are not fans of the Seahawks. And the Seahawks have won in the last decade or so when they had Wilson and. You know, a couple of nice Marshawn Lynch and nice defense. So Seattle Seahawks GM John Schneider highlighted a recent division by Washington State lawmakers that he believes could. Coast post problems as a reigning Super Bowl champion look to add players. To sustain long-term success. Washington's longstanding status as largely.

• 1:57:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Tax-free state is set to change in 28. After lawmakers approved a millionaire tax that would levy a 9.9% rate. On high earners, the tax will apply to individuals. Earning more than a million dollars annually. Governor Bob Ferguson has indicated he will sign the bill. It is unclear whether the legislation will face legal challenges. Uh, Schneider projected the new tax deduction could hinder the Seahawks ability to recruit. And ultimately sign free agents Schneider suggested. That part of the team's pitch to free agents over the year. Has highlighted Washington's tax exemption. So I'm recruiting you saying, hey. Come over here. We have an exemption. We'll come over here. We're one of the states that has an exemption. There was a bunch of agents texting me.

• 1:58:20Patrick Bet-David?

  The other day like, hey, can't use that anymore, buddy. Schneider said, so you know, like agents are saying. I don't know if you know what he's saying, Tom. The agents saying, hey, guy. You can't say, he's like, hey, John, why don't you bring Larry here? Cause we don't have to. He's like, no, you can't use that anymore. Cause it's no longer working. My player doesn't care about going there anymore. They're caring about the fact there's no taxes. Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 1:58:41Tom Ellsworth?

  So yes, I looked up on this story. I looked up what is in baseball. I started with baseball. I said, what is the worst division in baseball for the jock tax? Cause remember it's not just where your home team is. It's where you play the most of your games. Because you get taxed there. You know what the worst division in baseball for jock tax is? It's not. Then it's not the American League East where you play in New York and you play in Baltimore. Yeah, in the East. And you play in Boston. Seattle teams. It's the National League West. Weird. Because you have to play San Diego, San Francisco, and the Dodgers all in the same. And you have 81 home games if you're a Dodger, Giant, or Padre. That is, and so everybody was paying attention.

• 1:59:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Now, full disclosure, everybody knows I'm a Dodger fan. What? But this is part of what the Dodgers salary task force was about. And so you criticized the deferred contract for Otani. You criticized what they've done with other players. But guess what? Part of it they were fighting was exactly this issue, but in baseball. How do we get players to be here? How do we win the game for the big free agents? When this is literally the highest tax, worst division in baseball to be in for the jock tax. And now, guess what? The Seattle Seahawks GM is saying now it's coming, now it's coming here. And so your home games are going to get taxed. And then Seattle, you, who else do you play?

• 2:00:08Tom Ellsworth?

  You play San Diego, which is now LA. No, no, no, Seattle plays San Francisco. And then they play Arizona. And who else they play in that division? They play the Rams, the Rams. So they have to play, so you get taxed at home in Washington. And then you gotta go to California on the jock tax to play the Rams and the Niners. So guess what? It's quite possible that the National NFC West could be the worst jock tax. This is horrible. This is unintended consequences. You're putting your teams under pressure. So now the politicians are, you know, wow, what are you going to do? Now your fans are like, wait, so now my politics affects my favorite team?

• 2:00:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I actually love that. I actually love that because, you know, you would be amazed how much a sports team losing can flip your people politically, even if it's 0.2%.

• 2:01:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:01:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm being serious with you. I would literally be sitting there and say, guys, do you want to win or do you want to lose? We almost had X Y Z quarterback that was gonna come to us. You guys wanted him. You know why he didn't come to us? We offered 20 million dollars more, but he still chose to go with X Y Z, Tom. And the reason why he chose to go with X Y Z is why?

• 2:01:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Taxes.

• 2:01:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Because the 20 million dollars, he was gonna get 10% in taxes. On a 200 million was 20 million dollars. What do you want me to do? What else do you want me to do? This is how you're voting. It's not, I can't, I can't do anything about it. What do you want me to do next? So I actually fully get what's going on. And you know, I get what's going on. I think some of the teams that have no state today, I would be recruiting like you wouldn't believe. You actually have an argument. I would sit down, and I'm sure they do, put down a presentation to say, let's just say. You're gonna make, in the peak, seven years of your career. Put 20 million a year, seven years is what? 140 million bucks.

• 2:02:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, if you play at such and such state versus ours, over here, you will save 13.3% of that 140 million. 140 million at 13.3% is what? 13, 26, 2.6? Say 16 plus million dollars, 16 million dollars.

• 2:02:19Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm coming to you.

• 2:02:20Patrick Bet-David?

  And then I say, if you took that 16 million dollars. What is, what is? Check this out. What is 16 million dollars at a, give me a conservative rate of return, Tom?

• 2:02:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's just go with current T-bills have been floating at 4.

• 2:02:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. 16 bills per million at a 4% rate of return over 40 years. What will it look like? You ready?

• 2:02:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's what it will look like. If I put 16 million dollars, and then I would go at 6%. Then I would go at 8%. Then I would go at 10%. If you put 16 million dollars. Not 4 years, Rob. You just said what it would do in 4 years. 40 years. Okay? At 40 years, you know how much money that is? At only 4%? 77 million bucks. Rob, can you do me a favor? Take that same question and put it at 6% over 40 years. So I just told you. By you not playing in L.A., and you playing in Florida? You save 13.3% on your seven-year contract, 140 million bucks, 16 million dollars. At 6%. You know what it is in 40 years? Vinny, 165 million dollars you're losing just to play for L.A.?

• 2:03:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Nah.

• 2:03:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Or just to play for New York. But by the way. Let's go say you just put it in the stocks. And you know, the SMP, what has the SMP done the last 40 years? Can you put up what the SMP has done the last 40 years, Rob?

• 2:03:40Adam Sosnick?

  10%.

• 2:03:40Patrick Bet-David?

  The last 40 years, what has the SMP, what has the SMP done in the last 40 years? And we say, Johnny, take that 16 million, don't ever look at it again. Let's put it in the SMP. The SMP the last 40 years has done 11 and a half percent. If you would have put that 16% in, you look at the chart, and you would have just put it in the SMP, at 11 and a half percent the next 40 years, you would have 1.2 billion dollars. So guess what, Johnny? You're not really losing 16 million bucks. You're losing 1.2 billion dollars. Do you really want to give up 1.2 billion dollars? I've been recruiting left and right like this. It's pretty ridiculous what some of these things. This is real money we're talking about. You understand me? This is real money we're talking about.

• 2:04:22Patrick Bet-David?

  So I think fans, even fans that just want the better players, the owners have their hands like this. Not because of NFL, not because of the NBA Player Association, not because of collective bargaining agreement, because of your governors, mayors, senators, congressmen, the women that are voting for ways to raise taxes in their states. So actually understand the pain that these GMs are going through. Adam, your thoughts?

• 2:04:45Adam Sosnick?

  You said it, Pat, but sports is a business. So, you know, what do they say in real estate? What's the number one thing in real estate? Location, location, location. When it comes to sports, what's the number one thing? Money, money, money. What's the famous line in Jerry Maguire? Show me the money! Show me the money! Yeah, you know, but what about winning? What about culture? What about your role on the team? You're gonna, yeah, I don't care, bro. Show me the money. Show me the money. What, come on, man, what about loyalty? What about a hometown discount? Yeah, show me the money, homie. Because what's the average NFL career? Three years? What's the average NBA career? Four to five years? You got this big of a window to make as much money as possible before you're retired and you're out the league. What's the NFL stand for if you don't play the right way? Not for long.

• 2:05:30Adam Sosnick?

  So you better get your money while you can. You better take your talents to South Beach when it's tax-free. Come play for the Miami Heat.

• 2:05:36Tom Ellsworth?

  And he just, Pat just took the tax savings. Just took the tax savings by signing with another team and put it in there and then... Let it go. It's just amazing. By the way, if you're, if you're in the NFL, Pat, you want to be in the AFC South. And you want to go to, you want to play actually Nashville. Nashville is.

• 2:05:53Adam Sosnick?

  Houston.

• 2:05:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Tennessee Titans.

• 2:05:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Tennessee Titans should be recruited. How good are they right now?

• 2:05:57Tom Ellsworth?

  They play Jacksonville and they play Houston, Texas.

• 2:06:00Adam Sosnick?

  They're not very good. They're okay. They just, they had the.

• 2:06:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Are they coming up?

• 2:06:03Adam Sosnick?

  No, they're not good. They had Cam Ward, who was the number one pick from Miami. They're actually horrible. Cam Ward from Miami.

• 2:06:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Are they really?

• 2:06:10Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, they're not good at all. They're not coming up, Tom. Stick to the Dodgers, Tom. They're the worst team in the league. Finkel is Einhorn, Einhorn is Finkel. We all know that, Tom.

• 2:06:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 2:06:21Adam Sosnick?

  Lates is out. Tennessee's horrible.

• 2:06:24Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:06:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. Yeah, it's saying right now, the best contracts is Florida, Texas, Nevada. The middle contract on taxes is Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia, high Massachusetts, Jersey. The worst places to play as an athlete for taxes.

• 2:06:38Adam Sosnick?

  California.

• 2:06:39Patrick Bet-David?

  California or New York. By the way, do you know Dodgers know that? And that's why they're doing their contract the way they're doing it? By the way, did you see what Bryce Harper and Machado said about it?

• 2:06:48Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 2:06:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Bryce Harper and Machado said, I am so sick and tired of the criticism California and the Dodgers are getting. They said, we love what the Dodgers are doing. Bryce Harper doesn't play for the Dodgers.

• 2:06:58Adam Sosnick?

  Nope.

• 2:06:59Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, we wish other teams would do the contract in a similar way. But the way Dodgers does, the Dodgers says, I know you pay a lot of taxes in our state. Let's defer comp. Let's defer comp. And that's one of ways doing that. And some of the athletes don't want to do that.

• 2:07:12Adam Sosnick?

  Some of the athletes. For comp so they can get payments like the Bobby Bonilla thing?

• 2:07:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's do a 10-year contract.

• 2:07:18Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:18Patrick Bet-David?

  We know you're only going to play for us for seven years. The last three years, guess what? Go to Miami Marlins. Shohei Otani is probably going to play for the Marlins in 2034, 2033. Just so you know that. Otani is going to be a Marlin or a Ranger or I don't know, one of these weird teams.

• 2:07:34Adam Sosnick?

  At the end of your career, when you.

• 2:07:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Otani may buy a, you know, expansion team in Nashville, you know, what do you call it? The Nashville.

• 2:07:43Adam Sosnick?

  Nuggets.

• 2:07:44Patrick Bet-David?

  They pick something that they may have.

• 2:07:46Adam Sosnick?

  So Otani, do me a favor. Take your talents to South Beach.

• 2:07:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Not right now.

• 2:07:50Adam Sosnick?

  Follow the Browns.

• 2:07:50Patrick Bet-David?

  He will in five to seven years. Not right now. He won't be doing that anytime soon. I'm going to show you guys a clip before we wrap up. Have you guys seen what CNN showed? When they worked with one of their interior designers, and not the interior designer. CNN played a clip this weekend. They went and interviewed this guy. Who was the guy who was the interior designer? He would decorate a bedroom on the island for Epstein. This video went viral when they did this interview. I don't know if you've seen this clip. Have you seen this yet? I'm glad you haven't, Tom. I want you to see this. Adam, I want you to see this clip as well. Rob, if you want to pull it up. He sounds like a very, just an honest man who's saying, here's what I noticed and I eventually have to say, I can't work for you anymore.

• 2:08:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch what he was talking about. Very, very parent, very disturbing. Not any disturbing visual, very disturbing what messages he's given. Go ahead. Bring up a couple, right?

• 2:08:52Speaker 04

  There were bunk beds. And I said to him, I said, oh my God, are you expecting grandchildren? And he said, no, these are for my, these are for the girls.

• 2:09:01Speaker 05

  That's architect and interior designer Robert Couturier. He was hired by Jeffrey Epstein in 2010 to work on his island. He worked for a few months and then he quit. Couturier told the FBI that one of the reasons he decided to quit were those specific demands from Epstein.

• 2:09:19Speaker 04

  Especially for the bunk rooms, they had to be for girls. Tents, pink and this sort of things.

• 2:09:26Speaker 05

  So there's no mistaking this wasn't for women?

• 2:09:28Speaker 04

  There's no mistaking. You don't put women on bunk beds, I'm sorry. There was another little room with computers. And I said, what is this room? And he said, this room is for the girls when they have fun. And they play with their computers. The whole house was very odd because we were on the beach and the house had heavy dark curtains everywhere. The windows were never really opened. It felt, it felt terrible. The girls and the young women who went on the island were basic prisoners. You couldn't leave.

• 2:10:00Speaker 05

  We dug through the files released by the Department of Justice and found the pictures and videos that show the signs of something being off on the island. Even as rich and powerful guests visited, those signs were impossible to ignore, says this designer.

• 2:10:17Speaker 05

  What do you think about the people who did go to the island and say they never saw anything?

• 2:10:23Speaker 04

  Listen, I think you could, you can decide that you're blind. You can decide that you only want to see what you want to see. But the idea that a person

• 2:10:32Speaker 06

  Go to that island and not see something weird is impossible to me. For me to have seen it, everybody else had to see it. When you think back to how obvious it was to you, do you wonder about, you know, no one's saying anything back then? I've been wondering for the last 15 years. If in 2010, I knew it and we all knew it and I was interrogated and nothing happened.

• 2:11:01Patrick Bet-David?

  And that we could have saved so many young women that wouldn't have had to go through what they went through.

• 2:11:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinny.

• 2:11:11Speaker 02

  I mean, do we need more proof of what this person was and what he was doing? Potentially who he was working for and what the objective was? What do you, do you know that Zoro Ranch, they're actively right now looking for dead bodies in the hills? Foreign girls that were allegedly strangled and killed. This thing is so, I get there's a bunch of-

• 2:11:31Tom Ellsworth?

  In New Mexico Ranch.

• 2:11:32Speaker 02

  In New Mexico Ranch, there's so much going on for bunk, I believe that guy. I believe that guy 100% what he's talking about and the fact that, you know, bunk beds is like, these aren't for women. These are for, for children. Who knows on that island, Pat? Who knows what these, the dentist office was? Cause like I said this before, when you're sexually, you know, trafficking these girls and these young kids from all over the place and they're with a high profile person, client, whatever, whoever these people were, you cannot let them go back into the public knowing that, I remember that face. I remember that face because they've become a liability and you gotta get rid of them. And that's, that's the sad truth. And on an island like that, that had trap doors and the ocean is there and nobody, nobody monitoring him.

• 2:12:15Speaker 02

  I'm pretty sure he had all law enforcement, everybody in his back pocket. I think it's disgusting and I think the fact that, you know, Pam Bondi and all these people have shifted and nobody's even talking about like, I'm so happy you brought it up again, just to keep reeling everybody to come back in. Do not forget about what this guy was. Do not forget about the people and the organizations that he worked for. And please don't forget about the little girls and the women that were trafficked, abused, raped, and a lot of them potentially murdered. And that's the, that's the, that's the hard truth.

• 2:12:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom.

• 2:12:49Adam Sosnick?

  You think they were murdered?

• 2:12:50Speaker 02

  I, uh, do I believe that they were murdered? 1,000%. You know, you say, don't say 100%. Adam, there's no way you could take a child 13, 14, 15, 18, whatever, and have them hook up with Mr. X who's widely known in the world from, I don't, I'm not even gonna say names, just, you could just pick a name and then you go, okay, little girl, go back to your country, or go back to the United States, or go back to being homeless, and we trust that you're never gonna say anything. I, I, I believe, I believe that, Adam, when you mess with evil like that, evil does what evil does, and it's not, uh, life, human life to us is so important, Adam, because we're not in that world. To them, it's expendable. And the way that you hear these emails and hear how they were talking about people and human beings, it's really, really, it's a sad truth.

• 2:13:35Adam Sosnick?

  And by the way, I respect your opinion, but you, you mean that he's down there having parties, inviting women, doing whatever he is sexually? And then you think he goes and murders them?

• 2:13:44Speaker 02

  I, I, I'm not saying all of them, but I think if, if the client was...

• 2:13:48Patrick Bet-David?

  One is too many, I mean, if you're asking how many, let's say one.

• 2:13:53Tom Ellsworth?

  And why are there law enforcement digging in the dirt?

• 2:13:55Patrick Bet-David?

  But I'm curious, where are you going with, you don't believe that happened?

• 2:13:58Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I'd love to hear his opinion and then I'll, I'll, I'll go.

• 2:14:01Speaker 02

  Look, I can...

• 2:14:01Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, you started the conversation, you, then, then you, you went with, you jumped in, so...

• 2:14:06Adam Sosnick?

  If, let's, let's remove everything we know about Epstein and just focus on this video. Cause that's what you wanted to do, this video.

• 2:14:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:14:14Adam Sosnick?

  This video is the least compelling video I've ever seen in my life. Cause he has bunk beds? Let me tell you something...

• 2:14:19Speaker 02

  With no kids, with no children?

• 2:14:21Adam Sosnick?

  Let me explain something to you, my friend. This is the beauty of living in South Beach and living in the nightlife world my whole life. Do you know how many apartments I know in Miami that are model apartments? That have bunk beds? All of them! All these women come down here, work for, uh, Wilhelmina, or C, uh, CMG, or this thing, or, uh, Kathleen Gleason, all these model, M2, all these modeling, uh, agencies. Dozens of them, dozens of them, okay? And they all have hundreds of models, and they have a two-bedroom apartment. So what do they do for all the models? Boom, eight models are living in an apartment. How are they gonna do that? Boom. bunk beds. So if you're cheating to tell me that because they got bunk beds, that Epstein is murdering people.

• 2:15:06Speaker 02

  Children, children.

• 2:15:07Adam Sosnick?

  You're saying it's children. I'm saying they're models. Based on my experience.

• 2:15:11Speaker 02

  No, you didn't. You didn't hear the interview. The girl said they're not for women. The guy said that's.

• 2:15:14Adam Sosnick?

  Some random gay French guys like, I don't know, as a bunk beds are for. I'm letting you know just on this video. If all you got is he got bunk beds, you can have literally 10,000 models in America say, yeah, I've slept on a bunk bed. Yeah, I've slept on a bunk bed. By the way, you know where else they have bunk beds? You ever been to a college dorm? They got bunk beds everywhere. All I'm saying is this, we have to use discretion. If we're gonna do everything and throw Epstein down the, he's the devil. I get it. But if your only evidence is like, yeah, there's bunk beds, we're gonna have to do a little bit better.

• 2:15:48Speaker 02

  I, I think, I think besides the bunk beds, Adam, and, and I, I understand what you're saying in that in this one video. This isn't, oh my God, this isn't blowing the lid off of everything. But when, when she's saying little chairs and little computers for kids to be playing. Epstein didn't have any kids. I do understand. I, I, I play devil's advocate. People did fly there. Lutnik or whoever came there with their children. So I could understand that angle of it. But from, from what we've seen, from the droves of freaking emails and everything that with, and they're all talking code talk with eating jerky and beef, $20,000 this and pizza this and pizza that.

• 2:16:22Adam Sosnick?

  There's a lot of smoke.

• 2:16:23Speaker 02

  There, Adam, there's a lot of smoke, but at the same token, where are thousands of people were there? Thousands of people and multiple, multiple women. Where are they? They should be speaking out. Adam, if I saw, let's just say figuratively speaking, allegedly, Bill Clinton, and I am one of these girls and something crazy happened in front of me, you know what I'm doing? I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna talk. Unless, Adam, she's not around anymore. And she's not, because Adam, did you see that video of trap doors under an ocean? Ready for this? That's, they're not scuba diving down there. You take a body, Adam, and you just throw the incinerators. Hold on, funeral pal, dentistry, you pull out their teeth and you let them go. You, hold on, let me ask you one question. You think Jeffrey Epstein, well, what we found out about him, has the

• 2:17:08Speaker 02

  power to do something where he's like, okay, listen, this person just hooked up with the freaking high ranking, you know, prince or something. We gotta get rid of her. It's whatever. You think, you don't think he's capable? He was capable of doing something like that? If he's this evil with hooking up with underage girls?

• 2:17:23Adam Sosnick?

  Obviously, like Pat said, one murder is one too many.

• 2:17:28Adam Sosnick?

  There's a lot of, well, there's bunk beds, so he's gotta be murdering women. There's a trap door that he's gotta be murdering. We go to the furthest extreme. Listen, this may be controversial. I think Epstein was a sick pervert who liked 16-year-old girls. That's my thing.

• 2:17:44Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's it?

• 2:17:45Adam Sosnick?

  That's what I think he was doing.

• 2:17:47Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think-

• 2:17:48Adam Sosnick?

  And then I think he was using these 16-year-old girls and entrapping men, maybe blackmailing them.

• 2:17:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 2:17:53Adam Sosnick?

  But there's no evidence that he's some weirdo who's going into baby cribs and doing stuff like that. The whole thing that he had with the massages, paying these high school girls $200, $200. By the way, these girls are complicit. They're recruiting other girls.

• 2:18:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Because they're groomed.

• 2:18:08Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, he's a scumbag. Yes, he's a piece of crap. But just because he has bunk beds doesn't mean he's murdering women.

• 2:18:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

• 2:18:14Adam Sosnick?

  We need to have a little discretion here.

• 2:18:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

• 2:18:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam, I have a lot, um, I disagree with that, that take, but I'm just-

• 2:18:24Adam Sosnick?

  About bunk beds?

• 2:18:25Tom Ellsworth?

  No, about what you just said.

• 2:18:26Adam Sosnick?

  About bunk beds?

• 2:18:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Everything. I just think that's, that's a really rough take. This guy is not, this guy is not a random French guy. This guy is a well-known architect that worked for CNN, who was hired under a wealthy contract.

• 2:18:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Let him finish. Let him go through. Keep going, Tom.

• 2:18:47Adam Sosnick?

  Why are you, what are you defending? I'm not defending. I'm trying to find the truth here.

• 2:18:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Let him go through, and then you've been talking. Go ahead.

• 2:18:53Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what? I could not be more disgusted with what the story of Epstein. I could not be more disgusted. The documents that were withheld, but now we see them. The photographs that we never saw, but now we see them. And all the things it just says, it's exactly what it was. And it's not that the girls were complicit. I don't think an underage girl that was groomed and recruited is complicit. That's what grooming and the crimes that go on there of recruitment. And that's why we have these crimes. That's why we have statutory laws to protect, you know, our young children. I could not be more disgusted with the entire story of Epstein and more disgusted day by day.

• 2:19:36Tom Ellsworth?

  I get more angry and I was angry, I was getting angry inside watching this clip when he said two words, 16 years. So sometime ago, he said he was interrogated. Sometime ago, he talked to somebody and nothing happened and there was the sweetheart deal. The more we know about the sweetheart deal in the time that there is a way it could have been stopped. What do we say all the time? Oh, this young, this young troubled man, young boy, say 17-year-old troubled boy, he got his dad's gun and he went to school and he did this. Why couldn't we have stopped it? Why didn't somebody speak up? We always play armchair quarterback and we want the Second Amendment laws and we want to seize people's guns.

• 2:20:20Tom Ellsworth?

  We want to do all that, but on this, we did have a chance to stop it. But powers that be gave the guy a sweetheart deal and he went right back to doing his business. And when I see this guy who I regard as a credible witness, given his background and where he's going from, and I don't denigrate him in any way, and he says 16 years ago, I was interrogated. It's all part of the, we had a chance to stop it and that is the part of this that I hate because it angers me. I've gone from disgusted to being more and more angry seeing where it could have been stopped.

• 2:20:54Patrick Bet-David?

  So let me, let me give you one thing that, this is why this show works, because we have these types of conversations and, oh my God, I can't believe this, oh my God, I can't believe that. It's why this works. That's why we have these conversations. So I don't mind that at all. The day the FBI investigation, what is it, in 2018, the same day that happens, you ordered 330 gallons of sulfuric acid. Why? I don't know. Why? What do you do with that? I have no idea. I have no idea what you do with that. There's so many things that we don't know about this thing. A lot of things that we know. We know plenty right now to take the guy down. You know, he's dead right now.

• 2:21:37Patrick Bet-David?

  But meaning, we know plenty of stories to take a lot of other people down that were tied to it. But you know how the court works, that they have to go a little bit deeper and deeper and deeper. Life changes. You know how, you know, Lindsey Graham says, "Send the kids." You know, you're dumb, so... If it's gonna be like a, what do you call it?

• 2:21:55Speaker 02

  Yojima?

• 2:21:56Patrick Bet-David?

  You know? Yeah, go for it. He doesn't have any kids. So to him, what's the worst thing that he's gonna have?

• 2:22:05Speaker 02

  Nothing.

• 2:22:06Patrick Bet-David?

  When you hold your kid and they're in your arms and the thought of something like that happening, you turn into a very different human being. You turn into a very different human being. There's a scene where Bill Burr is on the podcast with Joe Rogan. And Joe was talking about if something like that happened. Rob, have you seen this clip? Type in Bill Burr, Joe Rogan, you know, where Joe, you know, says he would kill him or something like that. And then Bill says, "Relax, Joe. This is just a hypothetical." Okay? And you see it. It is a, it is a very, very different story when you deal with families.

• 2:22:47Patrick Bet-David?

  It is a very different story when you're dealing with how, um... Yeah, I don't know if you're gonna find it here. You may want to look for it on YouTube or Instagram. But I understand the emotions. And by the way, I like that more and more stuff like this is happening. I like the fact that CNN did this. Good for CNN for having something like this. I'm glad these types of conversations are taking place. Vinny, did you want to say anything before I go to Nick's story?

• 2:23:11Speaker 02

  No, no, no. It's just, you know, when you find out that this guy was working for two, three letter, or well, a couple of agencies to do this, to record everything, to hold... That means they're, all of them, all of them, were cool with this operation. All of them, for using it for leverage and to deny, not just to think that they wouldn't want to kill...

• 2:23:31Speaker 02

  kill these people is a it it to me that's a stretch that to me that is a stretch I saw emails where they're saying hey we strangle these two girls we're gonna have to get rid of them on top of the Zoro Ranch we have to strangle them they're foreign girls we have to kill them cuz during a sexual thing that we had the sex got rough who was in there and they put Madame M and and Jeffrey Epstein so like it's real it's real and we're never gonna find out the truth Adam cuz half the millions of documents they're not gonna release they're still redacting male names and they keep saying it's the victims nobody wants to see the victims name I want to see who Jeffrey Epstein is emailing saying hey we need to get rid of these chick these dead girls what what are we what are we doing yeah so yeah

• 2:24:14Patrick Bet-David?

  and by the way I found the clip Rob if you want to play this clip so this was a guy who walks up to a girl young girl gets angry a bicyclist and then just look at what happens to Joe Rogan's temperament his body language just look at this face Rob uh not Rob Adam I want you to look at this so go ahead and play this clip go ahead

• 2:24:31Tom Ellsworth?

  I was caught on video earlier attacking teenagers who were posting flyers he just runs up there yelling at her

• 2:24:37Speaker 02

  I mean look he's towering oh my god look at her though good for her she

• 2:24:41Tom Ellsworth?

  yeah see that's I think I don't know if that's a woman or her friend but that girl's got balls or ovaries you know I would be in the news

• 2:24:51Tom Ellsworth?

  with a big old fucking orange jumpsuit on if that was happening to my daughter

• 2:24:57Patrick Bet-David?

  oh my god

• 2:24:58Tom Ellsworth?

  be a real problem yeah

• 2:25:01Speaker 02

  yeah Joe didn't happen it didn't happen to your daughter right you just you just went to a dark fucking place there

• 2:25:06Tom Ellsworth?

  I go there all the time

• 2:25:09Tom Ellsworth?

  it's a real problem with me I go there all the time

• 2:25:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I get it there is a line that when you react like that if you ever wonder why sometimes the audience gets furious with you is especially with this topic that's a very sensitive topic I hope one day you have a daughter I think you will change and I don't know why I think your first kid's gonna be a daughter but I hope you have a daughter by the way it is the greatest blessing but you will never be the same ever again

• 2:25:41Tom Ellsworth?

  touche

• 2:25:41Patrick Bet-David?

  no when I'm telling you will and I I hope you experience that because it'll show you what man is capable of doing if you cross the line with a man's daughter

• 2:25:58Patrick Bet-David?

  It's over. You know, like, the idea of, like, prison, like... I hear you. It's not like, it's not like a thing. So that sensitivity... Everything that happened to these girls, these are someone's daughter, someone's niece, someone's cousin, someone's sister. These are someone's relative that they went through this. And when you're 14, 15, 16 years old, and you're very... What's the word? Impressionable? Is that the word? Mm-hmm. And you're struggling financially? It is so easy to take advantage of in that moment. It is so easy to take advantage of in those moments. Uh, so, I mean, you have a nephew, but you don't have a niece, so... But I, but I think if you go through this next phase, God willing, you'll experience it. There were some really horrible things that happened. And, look, I, I, I'm just glad that the media,

• 2:26:43Patrick Bet-David?

  and I'm glad that CNN, Fox, CBS, whoever it is, that is still in the pursuit of finding out what's going on with this. An example needs to be made. And I don't think enough examples have been made yet. There needs to be examples made for people to be so afraid of what's possible, for them to say, "I just don't want to touch this anymore." Anyways, I want to go to the last story, and then I want to wrap up. I want to give a shout-out to Nick Shirley. Nick Shirley's out there doing his thing, and it's starting to get to the point that he doesn't feel safe. Now, this is not a guy that's a millionaire. This is not a guy that's, you know, funded by, represented by a big, uh, media company where he has the ability to go anywhere and be safe. Rob, if you want to play this clip, go for it.

• 2:27:20Speaker 07

  After last night, and the constant doxing attempts and threats from people who want to attack me, largely due to politicians and leftist hate-filled rhetoric as I expose billion-dollar fraud schemes, stealing from taxpayers, I've decided it's time to raise money for security costs. What happened?

• 2:27:38Speaker 06

  Yeah, so, uh, people try to dox my location live, especially in a lot of times when I go to these cities now. It sucks because I'll go to a city, I'll go be out filming, someone'll take a photo, uh, some activists, some left... active so then take a photo put me in a reddit group chat this happened to me in baltimore it just happened this last weekend in california and they're saying they say run nick shirley out or they'll say if you see nick shirley it's on site and so this has happened in multiple cities I had money for security after minnesota that was pretty put down to pretty much nothing so unfortunately I had a race fund again to be able to have security to be allowed go film these videos to film one of these videos now I used to be able to film these videos without security now it costs anywhere from

• 2:28:20Speaker 06

  the last hospice video costs fifteen thousand dollars to go film because I had had security for three days to go film this video

• 2:28:26Patrick Bet-David?

  so folks if you're watching this and you see a young man like this he's how old twenty three I don't know if he's twenty four yet I think he's twenty three putting his life on the line and and literally because you know we know about a thirty one year old who would put his life on the line and go debate and talk to everybody and he's no longer with us we know the great charlie kirk so you know if you're somebody that when you're a guy at that age you need to constantly be encouraged if you got I know forty five of you or fifty of you have maneked him already if you haven't yet that is one way of supporting him financially as well as sending encouraging messages to him rob can you pull up nick shirley's manek

• 2:29:06Patrick Bet-David?

  he actually responds can you imagine all the stuff that he's doing he's still responding to people on manek so if if you have it in your heart to send a message and support what this man is doing and help him out with security I'd love to see a hundred of you manek them directly and just give him an encouraging message I'd love to see a hundred people send a message to him and just say nick keep at it your work is necessary you'll get a message back from him but it'll also help him out as he's going through this next phase Adam go for it

• 2:29:36Adam Sosnick?

  yeah well let me just give a message to nick shirley and I've told him this privately and and I won't reveal too much but I'm gonna say something publicly uh cuz he's become like a like a little buddy little little brother like he's a young guy and I and I and I've become relatively close with the guy we communicate nick uh the game has changed buddy you can't just go out and do what you've typically done why because you've done such an incredible job you have people basically saying no forget about batman send nick shirley

• 2:30:07Adam Sosnick?

  And exposing the fraud, you know, we had a conversation, Nick, you know about this about whether he should hire editors or not. I said, you can't shoot and film and edit and operate. You're gonna have to outsource. Well, I'm not so sure. You're gonna need security. You're also probably gonna need other reporters that report to you and sort of become an owner, operator in the business. Cause Nick, you have one major job. You know, your number one job, Nick, right now? Stay alive. Because if God forbid, something happens to you, the whole thing crumbles. So you need to take a long, hard look in the mirror, Nick, and we can talk about this privately.

• 2:30:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

• 2:30:45Adam Sosnick?

  Staying alive is the most important.

• 2:30:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Be fearless and be smart. And I think you're doing absolutely the right thing. You're helping expose a lot. And the security is very, very prudent. And I call on people, I've reached out to him on the neck, I'm calling on people to exactly as Pat says. It's on screen right now. There's the QR code. Get on the neck, send.

• 2:31:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Support him. I'd love to see a hundred people sending a neck to him, you know, support the guy on what he's doing. Where is that? And by the way, you know, Vinnie, I'll come to your last and we'll wrap up.

• 2:31:24Speaker 02

  Cause we talked about this last week about why he was doing how amazing what it's and how people are like, oh, he's not a real journalist, whatever the hell. Matt Shirley, his brother, messaged me and goes, Vinnie, I just finished today's podcast. Really appreciate you and the whole squad always giving Nick his flowers and having his back. God bless you guys.

• 2:31:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:31:40Speaker 02

  That's his, like, he needs it. And I love that you're doing this because he, like, this is the truth needs to come out. And notice, have you noticed? Have you heard a peep from Tim Walz or a peep from Ilhan Omar? Zero. They just crawled underneath the rock because of people like Nick Shirley. God bless.

• 2:31:54Patrick Bet-David?

  A 23-year-old young man did that with courage. So, by the way, props to his family for raising a man like this. Okay, raising a man like this. Look, I'm a Christian non-denomination. I'm not a Mormon myself, but I've worked with a lot of different Mormons. And when they would send their kids on the two-year mission, they would come back different people. They learn about independence, toughness, fearlessness, and. Gotta respect it. He's been doing this for a long time, but it's in their DNA. And I applaud you. Anyways, gang, Vinny has a podcast that's coming up. It's right now. It's out right now. It's out right now with Roger Stone on Hot Cakes and Hot Takes, which that show is doing phenomenal. Go support Vinny. Go watch the podcast. It's gonna be live. Thank you so much.

• 2:32:35Patrick Bet-David?

  We will do this again on Wednesday. Rob, do we have anything tomorrow or just Wednesday next? Just Wednesday. Okay, sounds good. Take care, everybody. God bless. Bye bye, bye bye.

• 2:33:00Speaker 05

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