Built For the Grind W/ Gary Vee

*** This episode includes language that may not be suitable for children. You Only Get One Life... Make it Count! This is one of the most anticipated and most requested interviews of all time! I've been asking you all who you would like to see next on the Ed Mylett Show and I heard you! My guest today has become one of the MOST influential entrepreneurs and marketing minds in the world! Most recently he helped start the popular "All In Challenge" and has raised over $13M to help feed those in need during this unprecedented pandemic. Get ready for a mind-blowing interview with Gary Vaynerchuk! Make sure you are ready to take notes as this interview is FULL of golden nuggets that you can use to increase your productivity and optimize the quality of your entire life! Gary and I dive deep into how to create a life that leads to happiness AND financial success. We talk about how to create and optimize your MOMENTUM and break down what it REALLY means to hustle! We share tips on how to overcome DOUBT, lack of MOTIVATION and how to truly LOVE the life you live. For the business people out there, Gary drops his forecast on what he thinks will be the next big wave in technology and where marketers and entrepreneurs should be focusing their energy. I’ve never met anyone who loves life the way this man does. His life isn’t just about him or the money but it's about HAPPINESS, KINDNESS, and COMPASSION for others! In this interview, Gary breaks down how you can be selfish and selfLESS at the same time and achieve beyond your wildest dreams AND how you can use this COVID-19 pandemic as a catalyst to create the greatest force for GOOD in the world! This interview is PACKED with so much wisdom I can’t even explain it all in this caption. It will fill you with hope and empower you to TAKE ACTION despite anything standing in your way! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Ed Mylett?

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• 0:45Ed Mylett?

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• 1:46Ed Mylett?

  All right, welcome back to Max Out, everybody. My guest today needs no introduction. You know, there's this list of people you all demand to have on the show. And there's this running list of three or four people that come up every single time. People have wanted to see Gary and I together. And finally, it's happening in a very interesting time. So my guest today is Gary D. Gary, thank you for being here, brother.

• 2:08Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on.

• 2:10Ed Mylett?

  Probably the most influential entrepreneur in the world when it comes to digital and social media. And I think one of the reasons that I enjoy you and your content, because I'm a grown man. I'm almost 50 years old. You're a grown man. I see your heart grow more than just your brilliance. You're obviously got so much experience and so much brilliance. But that's not, and I appreciate that. But it's your heart. I see how much you care about the people that you interact with, whether it's just on the street or at one of your events. That's what I think makes you special. It's what I hope I have as well. But speaking of that, you're right in that lane right now with this all-in challenge. During this time, we're recording this, everyone, during the Corona crisis. If you're listening or watching at this time. So it's gone all over the planet. I mean, I just looked this morning. Joe Montana's in now, right?

• 2:55Ed Mylett?

  There's all these. So tell us about it. What's going on with that?

• 2:58Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Michael Rubin, who's also a big-time entrepreneur, very successful, part-owner of Sixers, founder of Fanatics.com, a good friend, started it. Two days in, he's like, wait, this could be really big. Reaches out, says, hey, you want to be a part of this? I'm like, yes. So me and the VaynerMedia machine, from a marketing standpoint, got behind it. Basically, what it is, is we've reached out to, you know, celebrities, athletes, you know, people of culture who we think can demand a real big check. Very honestly, we have a humongous ambition. You know, when you're trying to, you know, taking even a step back before going to what it is. There's a real issue right now with the food supply chain in America.

• 3:42Gary Vaynerchuk?

  There's a lot of people hungry. People take for granted how people get fed in this country. And so you've got a lot of kids who rely on school lunch. You've got a lot of elderly that reply, rely on Wheels on Wheels and things of that nature. So, you know, no kid hungry. Feeding America, America's Food Fund and others are the beneficiaries 100% by this. What happens when? Justin Timberlake and Bill Murray are willing to play golf with you in Pebble Beach and have dinner. What does that go for in an auction? Mark Cuban put up, you actually signing, this is something for you and I, Ed. Actually, actually signing a one day NBA contract and actually being put in the game.

• 4:24Ed Mylett?

  Oh, what?

• 4:25Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Yes. Like last five seconds, like, you know, like, like, like, just like real crazy stuff.

• 4:31Ed Mylett?

  Wow, I didn't know that.

• 4:33Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Leo DiCaprio and Scorsese putting you in their film and you get to have a speaking line. So as of Saturday morning, we just crossed the $10 million mark. We've raised $10 million in less than a week. We're really excited about it and you can get in for 10 bucks a raffle ticket and you get in for some of the baller stuff. So please check that out.

• 4:54Ed Mylett?

  Where exactly do they go, Gary?

• 4:56Gary Vaynerchuk?

  AllinChallenge.com.

• 4:57Ed Mylett?

  Okay, AllinChallenge.com. You guys, I've never seen anything like this. The stuff is unbelievable. And if you don't have the cheddar to, you know, drop the big number on the deal, get some raffle tickets and get involved in it too. Cause you're making a difference in this time where so many people are hurting.

• 5:11Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Co-host The Ellen Show with Ellen. You know what I like? I like that there's gonna be a lot of people that get it. You know, be in Meg Thee Stallion's music video. Hang out with Drake all day, like get flown on his airline. Like Justin Bieber will fly to your home and serenade you. This is real. These are like, we're not joking right now. Like, like, like, you know, there's just such, be on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Uh, you get to, you probably know this from your man, Michael Strahan, full day with him. Spend the whole day with him. This is the single greatest experience and item auction maybe of all time.

• 5:47Ed Mylett?

  No, of all time, no question.

• 5:49Gary Vaynerchuk?

  And so, and it's still happening. The Migos, Tony Hawk, you know, I'm just looking at it right now, Pink. You know, like be in Kevin Hart's movie, like, uh, this will resonate for a lot of people. You know, make a TikTok with, you know, Charlie and Dixie D'Amelio. Like, so there's like real interesting stuff. And so it's a really great cause. I'm really, I'm actually pretty interesting. I'm on the board of Charity Water and Pets of Promise. I'm, I'm very comfortable self-promoting. I'm very comfortable promoting my businesses. I've historically up to this point been quite quiet. When it comes to my nonprofit work, even occasionally back in the day, like, somebody called me out and I met them at a Starbucks and showed them my tax return. Because I wanted the kid to learn that, like, people are keyboard warriors.

• 6:33Gary Vaynerchuk?

  You know, Ed, let's, let's transition. We'll go back to All in Challenge later to remind everybody, because I really want everybody's listening on, but let's transition. Knowing your audience, knowing mine, we're about to go through the greatest era of exposing fake entrepreneurs, because we were just living in it. And that's not a razz.

• 6:48Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 6:48Gary Vaynerchuk?

  It's just a reality. You're, I, I, the call I just had right before you was looking at a business, which is direct-to-consumer business. You know, that looks like it's dominating on Instagram. The founder looks like she's dominating. I just, they're out of business next week, and I'm looking at potentially buying it, right? So, we're, we're, what's really interesting is, just like charity work, just like politics, just like anything else. We've lived through this incredible era of keyboard warriors.

• 7:16Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 7:16Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Right, Ed? And so, you know, we have the benefit. We got lucky. The 22-year-old versions of us probably would have been keyboard warriors at some level as well. But this all kind of popped off after we did things and learned things. And so, you know, I'm, I'm hopeful. There's a lot of, there's a lot of bad going on. The deaths are indescribable through this. We've lost 22 million jobs in four weeks, which is how many we've gained since the Great Recession in 2010 to 2020. So, everything that we've gained through this crazy era, from a job standpoint, has been given back. And so, it's, listen, it's gonna be an interesting time.

• 7:52Ed Mylett?

  Let me ask you about that.

• 7:53Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Please.

• 7:54Ed Mylett?

  Say on that, one of the things, first off, I completely agree with you, the exposure of the fake entrepreneur, because we just came out of that space. One of the things I love watching of yours is the retro stuff. You go back to 08, you've said something, boom, here it is today. Neither one of us have a crystal ball. Neither one of us are certain about this. But I know people want to know what you think we're going into. Are we going into a quick recession, do you think? Do you think it's a extended depression?

• 8:18Gary Vaynerchuk?

  No, I, I think it's a, I think it's, it's a recalibration. Honestly, my biggest hope and why I want to get loud and, you know, and I want others to get loud about is like, let's get out of this more humble and more practical.

• 8:32Gary Vaynerchuk?

  You know, let, let's, let's do that. Let's, let's, like, like, you don't, listen, Ed, you know this, and you run in these circles. You know, that's how I'm aware of you, like, and, and I watch everything, and you watch everything, people watch everything, like... You know, alpha male winners love to flash. It's a, you know, it's leverage for girls. It's leverage for fun. It's like, you know, I, I, and listen, I, I, I don't, you know, a lot of my friends are like, stop demonizing Lambos. And I'm like, I'm not demonizing it.

• 9:00Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 9:01Gary Vaynerchuk?

  But there's children who are watching, who are gonna go into really sad places. They're gonna do, they're gonna do bad things to themselves or others because they're gonna thirst it so much. And when they get there, they're not gonna like it as much as they think.

• 9:16Ed Mylett?

  They're not. It's one of the things that's very similar about you and I. I think maybe a little bit of his experience because we're both done very well financially. And I toe that line, man. It's hard for me too, because I don't wanna poo poo somebody who wants to someday have a jet. Like, if that's something you think you wanna aspire to, and that's a benchmark.

• 9:32Gary Vaynerchuk?

  That's you.

• 9:33Ed Mylett?

  Great, but I gotta, I, I know because I have one. And I don't flash it, that I'm telling you straight up, if you think that's gonna fill some bucket of happiness within you, you are way off the mark. Like, maybe for a week, you know, and then, or that Ferrari, or whatever it is. I love that about your content. It's difficult, because I think sometimes take, people take you and I so literally about that fact, like, well, then why achieve anything? That's not what we're saying.

• 9:57Gary Vaynerchuk?

  And, and I think I started talking about it loud and aggressively during a time where that was the counter to everything that was going on. So it was interesting. I was curious what was gonna happen. I really, I really felt some sort of weird, it was a really weird, like, I could feel it bubbling up a couple of years ago. I'm like, fuck, I need to do this. I also knew it was gonna like, not land, like, with a lot of people. I knew it was also gonna put some pressure on some of my friends and acquaintances. It's every, my big thing is this, you can have anything you want, first of all, because who am I, or who's anybody else? Do you. Comma, just ask yourself why? Are you so insecure that you need the logo of the BMW?

• 10:43Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Or the table at a club? Or what? Do you need that for affirmation of others? Or do you actually enjoy, actually, the taste of alcohol? The, the speed of a car? The, you know, um, you know, it's funny, I even have to be careful the other way. I.

• 11:03Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Would almost overcorrected and like like I'm subconsciously on purpose didn't fly private a couple of years ago ever and then I just started becoming that became stupid because it wasn't practical for the value of my time.

• 11:15Ed Mylett?

  You know what's funny you say that I had a really I had a really interesting experience I want to tell you because if you're so right. I thought for a long time this isn't part of my identity. I like it because the car is nice or whatever and I was about forty and I flew into Atlanta and I had to get a rental car. There was nothing but beaters left.

• 11:31Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Yep.

• 11:31Ed Mylett?

  And I got in this kind of beater rental car and I'm driving and I realized in that moment I felt I this is no joke. I'd done pretty well. I'd made some money and I'm in this car and my self confidence honestly in my body was lower was lower.

• 11:46Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I understand.

• 11:47Ed Mylett?

  You idiot. You've literally tied some of your self esteem to what all these other people think about what you're driving. One second after you're driven by they can't see you anymore. And it was a wake up call even for me. Mr. Evolved, Mr. Good People Advice. I'm like even you.

• 12:01Gary Vaynerchuk?

  We all have that. We all have that. One of the greatest things about getting some attention and admiration is I didn't I'm not worried about that part because I'm in a fucking cocoon and I think I think you know even kind of like jamming for three minutes before this like you know this about me like I'm a little bit weird in comparison to everybody. I'm a little bit in my own fucking weird cocoon, you know, and and but even for me, um, you know, like realizing that I wasn't candorous enough like that my I was like, what is my flaw? Because I'm like, fuck you. Like, you know, things weren't happening. I I like countering. I like always staying in the middle. So like as soon as things started really popping off two or three years ago, I'm like, okay, fuck you, dude. Like, I understand you're on the verge of like everybody thinking you're the best. Why don't we actually

• 12:43Gary Vaynerchuk?

  take this energy and go the other way? What do you suck at? And the reality is I lacked candor. I hate negativity and and tension so much that as a leader in my company, I would be around the bush when somebody sucked.

• 12:57Ed Mylett?

  That blows my mind. That blows my mind.

• 12:58Gary Vaynerchuk?

  You took the words out of my fucking mouth. When people work at Vayner, they're stunned how soft the culture is because I it you know, back to how you opened this, a lot of people listening right now, even when we started this interview, actually don't like me because I have a lot of aggressiveness in my content. Plus, I poke at zits, right? I poke at things that people don't want me to poke at. So I understand why. You then, I think I've done a better job, that is just a truth, but I also think over time it becomes more obvious, you know, I'm so humbled by you saying your humanity, your heart, I think that's become a little bit more obvious at scale, it's extremely obvious to the thousand people that work at Vayner, so much so, and this is devastating, because for my audience, I think I'm incredible at accountability, but at Vayner, I would argue

• 13:43Gary Vaynerchuk?

  six, seven years ago, I created seventy, like, it wasn't fifty-fifty, accountability and, you know, and merit and kindness and all, like, it was seventy to, like, to, to the lack of accountability, over coddling, because I love being a leader, and I'm like, fuck it, I'm gonna put on my back, it wasn't micromanaging, but all of the driven stress, which then for upper-middle management, became cush. Yes. And it was kindness, it was kindness over results, that's when I released something called The Honey Empire. Yes. So I started talking about that internally, and over the last eighteen months, I've done a lot better, and I'm really excited to be the fifty, fifty-four, sixty-four-year-old

• 14:23Gary Vaynerchuk?

  version of me, because what I have to worry about is actually not being over coddling, which on my content, I'm a dominant force on candor, and bring a lot of people like, quote-unquote, the tough love, in the people I manage directly, so indirectly, on a podcast with you, on stage, I can go that route. Yeah. Directly, one-on-one, it breaks my heart too much, I don't give a fuck about money enough, and so I go into kind of therapist kind, or brother, over coddler, so it's been really fun, you know, when you say, and I appreciate you sharing, which inspired me to share right now, you're like, fuck, I'm, my, I've never had that, like, I'm, like, I'm zero at that, like, my want to own anything, to flex on somebody, to create a perception

• 15:08Gary Vaynerchuk?

  is zero, because my, my external validation meter, through, by the way, pure luck, like, let's call it is, when my parents had sex, and how my parents raised me, and where I was raised, right, like, pure luck, circumstantial, but, but I'm so grateful, and I think back to high school, my ability to be friends with the most popular kids, and the biggest nerds, my best friend, who runs Wine Library, Brandon Warnicki. was far from popular in high school and and I and I left popularity on the table in high school because I needed to be friends with Brandon and I would argue high school maybe the single hardest half decade to kind of have that level of humility so like real life now piece of cake I don't need to walk into the club and have a watch or necklace or what have

• 15:53Gary Vaynerchuk?

  you first of all that was never part of my culture I just worked every day but even the once in a blue moon scenarios where that I used to go to jet games and because I had so many buddies that wanted to go jet game I used to trade my good seats literally go to my good seats give the people uh we would go up to the upper deck for big games because my friends couldn't afford it time and I would go with my good seats and try to trade with the people that were sitting because we wanted to sit I'd rather sit together my friends in the upper bowl than and that's just always who I've been so that comes natural so anyway that's the energy I'm trying to bring because what Instagram has done is it's amplified truth Instagram hasn't fucked us social media hasn't fucked us it's exposed us we've always wanted to look the part versus be the part that's

• 16:37Gary Vaynerchuk?

  that's why people bought homes that are bigger and cars that are bigger and clothes that are bigger long before there was social you cared for your neighbor to see that you had a Mercedes when they had a Toyota like that's always been the case and I want people to be I want people to get out of that fucking mindset

• 16:52Ed Mylett?

  well the reason I'm glad you say that because I think people that just scroll through social or would see you uh and probably me at some points too wouldn't know that and what's interesting because you and I know a bunch of successful entrepreneurs this is a great lesson the cut throat do it for show do it for flash or even beat other people type entrepreneur all the time uh they don't always sustain success the people that I know that have had success over decades that have won the long game have an approach more like what you've just described they they have empathy they have concern for people they care I ironically too I'm this sort of intense dude I am the worst still to this day at one-on-one confrontation I'm okay on stage I can kind of blow up a room but what is it me and you and I gotta go hey I'm disappointed in you you

• 17:36Gary Vaynerchuk?

  you know it's the value it's the it's it's the you know I used to think it was the value of money now I've realized it comes at the Cost of the other A players, so I've changed my tune a little bit more. I didn't mind that it came out of my cost. Because I'm just so grateful for my process. I'm, you know, I'm starting to realize, oh my God. I'm way more obsessed with the process than I am with the trophies that come from it. Like, I always wished that I was given the, there's a part of me that always wishes that I had the athletic ability, because I would have been a Hall of Fame athlete. I just know it. It's the obsession of the, the game.

• 18:10Ed Mylett?

  What about your work ethic, Gary? If we went back to the 25-year-old you, I've always wanted to, I've wondered this about you. You and I, our content lines up very similarly, except we nuance one thing differently. And I, I want to talk about it. So, um, 25-year-old Gary. So here's, I look at you, and I'm gonna ask you about time management in a minute too, but I look at you. You have a big life. Your life is big, and, and you're, I, I, people at Nobles will say, hey, man, sometimes it's a five-minute meeting for them. I'm like, that's so ironic. I run four-minute meetings, because it's just like, there's only so many hours in a day. We gotta get to the point. It's not that I don't want to hear from you. It's like, I gotta create a culture of this too, of speed and, and efficiencies.

• 18:46Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Yes.

• 18:46Ed Mylett?

  So, I look at you, and one of the things, I just deduce things I see in people. I go, that's why, that's why, that's why. The number one thing with you is your, your empathy and kindness and concern for people. Number two thing I noticed? God-given and worked on talent to articulate. Let's just be real. The thoughts come from his brain through that mouth. It's a gift or a talent. I'd like to think I have some of that too. I see that. The next thing I see, work ethic. I see a dude who's busting it. I know that you're not putting on Instagram when you're napping, but I'm watching your life. It's a big life. If I went back to the 25-year-old guy, working a mom and dad's business, if you were still there then, same thing, like, just crazy hustle.

• 19:26Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Yeah, I'll break it down for you. That's the year 2000. I get out of school in May of 98, and 2000. So 2000 was a huge year, because May of 98, I come in. So since 14, I, I go into the dad's liquor store at 14. At 17, 18, 16, 17, 17. At 17, I'm like, I'm gonna do this. I hate school. I love my fucking parents more than breathing. I'm gonna go in there, I'm gonna fucking build a monster. Now- This is 1996, this is actually, excuse me, this is 1993. Family businesses in 1993 looked like this. I'm gonna go work for my dad, build a hundred million dollar business, this is kind of what I'm thinking,

• 20:11Gary Vaynerchuk?

  and one day he'll die and I'll inherit it. Slash, I'm gonna go in there, I'm gonna fucking dominate, build a huge monster, and then maybe I'll bounce at some point, start my own thing.

• 20:24Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 20:25Gary Vaynerchuk?

  So, so 20-year-old Gary is now super pent up, right? Because like, you know, uh, let me give you, I'm gonna really give it to you, because I, first of all, I'm obsessed with how well you mapped those three data points, so kudos to you, because that's, that's super uncomfortably on. 19-year-old Gary is calling his mom from Mount Ida College, shit college, I'm playing Madden all day and just fucking hustling in like the hood college I'm in. And I call my mom, you know, 11:00 PM, once every nine months, so one, you know, three times every two years, crying about, "I can't go into dad's business because nobody will give me credit, because I'm a superstar, and if I start here, I'll never get the credit I deserve,

• 21:09Gary Vaynerchuk?

  even though I know what I'm gonna do, mom, at that point I knew what I was gonna do, I'm gonna come build a huge business for dad and I'm gonna start over." Right? That was real hard for me. And still to this day, when people don't know my story, which once, you know, and I like clarifying it because it's important for me. I go into this business, I build it from a 3 to 60 million dollar business, no credit line, no cash infusion, grinding, you know, no internet, like, just different, I mean, it was internet, but it was a different fucking internet than it is now. And, and then I leave at 34, I never pay myself, I think one year there was a hundred, a little over a hundred thousand a year, but don't forget for an executive that took something from 3 to 60 million, uh, the first three, four, five years were 30, 40, 50,000 ranges.

• 21:52Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Um, I lived in an 1,800 dollar a month apartment the whole time, right? Or at least, excuse me, until I was 29, I save up money. I, I then get to this place where I'm, I'm 31, 32. I realized the internet's coming. I have like a, I have like 3, 4, I'm 31, 32 years old. I'm making 90,000 a year. I built a 40, at that point, a 50 million dollar business and I have 400,000 dollars in savings. I, I put all those savings into Tumblr, Facebook and Twitter stock, all of it. Um, and then I start VaynerMedia at 34. And in a conference room of another company because I couldn't afford rent because I had no money.

• 22:34Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Um, and with my brother, so, so 25, so first of all, that's just important because

• 22:41Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 22:42Gary Vaynerchuk?

  So many people listening right now are 28 and are way ahead of where I was, are 32 and way ahead of where I was. So it speaks to what you can do in a decade if you fucking got it. 25 year old me, super pent up to prove to the world, most likely myself though, that I'm as good as I am. I just got done with my first full year of running the company. We went from 3 to like 8.9 million in a blast. And now I'm in year two, now I'm really in it, 18 months fully, obviously through college and high school, I was in the store, but now I'm the fucking guy.

• 23:13Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 23:13Gary Vaynerchuk?

  And I'm a fucking machine, 7 a.m. in the store, leave at 10 p.m. every night, 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. every night, Monday through Saturday.

• 23:25Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Uh, no going out, no girlfriend. Um, Sunday, sleep till like fucking noon, go to my parents' house, talk business. In the fall, watch the Jets, in the not fall, hang out with my little brother and my sister. Um, 100% 1940s immigrant family man kind of world. Every day, 7 to 10 p.m. every day, every day. Every single day of my 25, every day. Sleep to 11 a.m. Sunday, garage sale and go to flea markets as a side hustle on Saturday for fun or Sunday for fun because I liked it. Or watch the Jets or go to my parents' house an hour away from my apartment at that point, 45 minutes away to hang out and talk business to set up the next week.

• 24:11Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Every day. That is literally my entire life. So when people now are like, oh, I hustle, yet like, like I get it. But it's by their standards. It is not by immigrant, you know, and I like that people have balanced lives. I think that's great. That's just my answer to who 25 year old me was.

• 24:28Ed Mylett?

  Okay, so it goes right to what I want to ask you. So you just, people look at me sometimes and I don't, I'm not being self deprecating either. I'm 49 next week and oftentimes I think people, I, I, I look at least my age or older. And I say sometimes, I think one of the reasons I look a little bit older is my twenties resemble yours. Like it probably aged me a little bit. It probably experienced me a little bit. Like there were no vacations, right? Same thing. Difference, I got a little bit better financial reward earlier than you.

• 24:54Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Yeah. What were you, what were you about?

• 24:56Ed Mylett?

  I was hustling every single day and I was building my financial company then, and then I was building my real estate businesses. And I'm just same thing, sun up to when people were already been asleep for three or four hours, six days a week, sometimes half days, Sundays, for a decade. And what I want to ask you about, because so many things we say are similar, except this one point, I want to hear the nuance of it. When I get a 25 year old guy who asks me, hey, I want to be somebody I want to win. My answer is typically that, hey, you have to have patience because it may not happen now. But you've got to get after it. And so, and I think that, that's what, that's what I was doing. That's what you were doing. That's what Zuckerberg was doing. That's what Cuban was doing. That's what LeBron was doing.

• 25:36Ed Mylett?

  But sometimes when I hear you say it, I feel like what I'm hearing, and maybe it's a soundbite is.

• 25:42Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I know where you're, I know where you're going. Keep going, keep going.

• 25:45Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, don't worry about it. Travel to Europe. You'll get your, life is long.

• 25:48Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I'll explain. I'll explain. Yeah, I'll explain. I'm scared. When you and I were doing it, entrepreneurship was not cool, Ed.

• 25:56Ed Mylett?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 25:58Gary Vaynerchuk?

  What you're, what you're hearing in that nuance, brother, is concern. The concern that a ton of fucking people want to be it now and aren't it. So I think people have now aspired to be an entrepreneur when they're not. And those are the people that are going through depression, are suicidal, are unhappy, because they're in a game that doesn't match them. So when I say that, it leads, I'm playing chess. It's never a one size fits all. I want to see what the person says next. I'm looking for the tell.

• 26:35Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Got it, brother?

• 26:36Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 26:36Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I'm like, you know, well, listen, don't overstress, you've got patience. Your twenties is a good, high-risk, high-reward time. If it's in you, like, if you said that to me, if Gary said to Gary, "Yo, go to Europe, go this," I'd be like, "Fuck you."

• 26:50Ed Mylett?

  Right, me too, me too.

• 26:52Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Well, that's what I'm looking for.

• 26:53Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 26:54Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Because when the kid says, "Yeah, you're right," I'm like, "Uh-huh."

• 26:58Gary Vaynerchuk?

  And I couldn't breathe.

• 27:00Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 27:00Gary Vaynerchuk?

  And I couldn't breathe.

• 27:02Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 27:02Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I had to, I had to do it every second, I couldn't breathe. This is on, when you're a natural, purebred, you're in Beyonce, LeBron, Pablo Picasso category. You're an artist. You're an artist. There was no choice. I'm not doing this for the fucking flex, or the gram, or the money, or the house, or the jet, or the... I don't want a single thing. I don't want to be part of any exclusive club, I don't need an island, I don't need a house. I fucking need the game.

• 27:28Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 27:29Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I need the fucking game.

• 27:30Ed Mylett?

  You know, it's funny, I thought, brother, that's my favorite thing probably ever been said on here.

• 27:34Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Thank you.

• 27:34Ed Mylett?

  And the reason is, is that I live it, and I, I, I had a really successful dude tell me when I was young, because I was going crazy, and he was crazy, he was in his 50s, his name was also Ed, I'll never forget it. He's passed away since, and he goes, "Hey, man, it's never gonna go away."

• 27:48Gary Vaynerchuk?

  It's never gonna go away.

• 27:49Ed Mylett?

  And I look at, I look at-

• 27:50Gary Vaynerchuk?

  You ready for this? You ready for this?

• 27:53Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 27:53Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I think it's stronger in me now. Now I'm like, "Fuck it." Now I'm like, "I want a statue, I want, I want, I want National Entrepreneur Day to be a stay-at-home holiday." On November 14th, because that was my birthday, I'm like, "Fuck it."

• 28:07Ed Mylett?

  Hmm, hmm.

• 28:07Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I, I want it more now. I'm more ambitious, I'm more hungry now, that's the truth. That's not some midlife crisis thing for all the 20-year-olds. If you're, if you're like me, you'll remember this fucking interview and be like, "Fuck, he's right," it's true. I'm hungrier.

• 28:23Ed Mylett?

  Yep, it is true. It's become more of a fabric of who I am, there's momentum in my life, just like you've got momentum. People, people also underestimate the power of momentum.

• 28:32Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I agree.

• 28:33Ed Mylett?

  You get your life going, it magnifies everything you've got going around you. Every year, the, the best baseball team doesn't win the World Series, sometimes it's the hottest ballplayer.

• 28:40Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Oh, you, you- I love you for that analogy, literally, literally. You know what's crazy right now, we're talking right now in the background, it just popped up, just popped up in the background, the 2008 AFC Championship game, Patriots Chiefs, who obviously I hate the Pats with all my heart, but that was a game of momentum. The Pats just scored, they're up 14-0 now in this game. I think they went up like 21-0. They were up huge, they had all the momentum in the first half, then the Chiefs had all the momentum in the second half. For people not to understand that the easiest comp is sports to life on this, it is pure momentum. I couldn't agree with you more. You know what I love to think about, Ed? The things we said no to that were actually the trigger to a hotter, to a streak, to heater,

• 29:24Gary Vaynerchuk?

  that we said, "I hope that heaven is where it shows you what life would have been based on choices." I love that I didn't go to some night where at night would have been these two people that would have made this deal with me. Like, I love knowing that momentum is based on choice, that I've missed momentum many times in my life, and that I've gotten momentum many times in my life. And I love that part of the game, actually, which is like, decisions actually matter. And sometimes when you have the humility to go to a thing that doesn't seem right, you get something that triggers a domino, and sometimes when you go to something, you're like, I mean, I remember sitting down, there's one meeting I remember very vividly with Howard Schultz. I had a meeting with Howard Schultz to kind of just, I was getting hot, getting in the know,

• 30:09Gary Vaynerchuk?

  and like, I got connected. I remember sitting four minutes before, I'm like, "I'm about to walk in here, and I'm about to blow this dude's face off, and it's gonna be a fucking foundational thing." I walked in, we had a 15-minute meeting, 20-minute meeting, and nothing's happened. And I didn't feel like I had an off day, I felt like I gave it, but it didn't click. Whereas when I went to go see Jimmy Iovine for this meeting, I'm like, "I'm gonna go blow his face off", within three minutes, he's like, "You're next Simon Cowell", and he casted me in the Apple show Planet of the Apps with Will.i.am, Gwyneth Paltrow, and Jessica Alba. And if that show actually got seen, unfortunately, it was before all the OTT stuff, and the way TV, like, that would have been right, and that would have been one of the moments. So, you know, the reality is, is that...

• 30:50Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 30:51Gary Vaynerchuk?

  You know, like, I love that kind of shit. And then I love, I'm trying to think of like, something good where like, who'd I meet randomly? Like, I'm trying to think of a real logical thing. Well, you know, I took a meeting with the Jets president at a bagel store because he wanted to sell me a Skybox. I told him about where the world was going. We became great friends. That's Matt Higgins, who's on Shark Tank, who's Steve Ross's right hand. That led to him leaving the Jets years later, going to Steve Ross and Dolphins. That became the gentleman who bought a piece of my company. And like, that bagel meeting became a monster meeting for me, and I didn't know who Matt Higgins was going into it. So, I, I, I, I love chance. I love momentum, and I love what starts momentum. That's where I just took this. I agree more than any, to remind everybody right now, say yes.

• 31:33Gary Vaynerchuk?

  You know one thing that I hate about people that haven't achieved anything and people that have achieved everything? They overvalue their time. And it's a tricky one. If you haven't gotten there yet, what should, people are like, Gary, I'm not doing that pro bono work. I should be compensated. I'm like, bro, your work, your work's worth nothing. Like, there's 700,000 video makers that I can, that I can tweet right now, like, sorry, like, like, when your work's not worth anything, like, when, no humility. And then, and then, and then, again, no humility. When people get fancy, they don't take, I take so many small meetings. I do so many things like Tea with Gary Vee in the morning during this COVID crisis to, like, just help. And, once every 8,000 times, it helps me.

• 32:18Ed Mylett?

  Right, right. I'm exactly the same way. Brother, it's like, I had no idea we were gonna go down these roads, and I'm really glad that we did. Let me get a couple more things for me, because we're both-

• 32:25Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Yeah, let's mix it up.

• 32:26Ed Mylett?

  Ranking today. Um, you've made really good calls. So, when you dumped your money into Twitter or Facebook, what do you see now? So, if there's entrepreneurs out there, there's trends, by the way, I don't think-

• 32:39Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I'm, I'm ready to go. Voice and text.

• 32:42Ed Mylett?

  Elaborate, what do you mean?

• 32:43Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Everybody who's listening should have a text service. Text converts better than email and better than social media.

• 32:49Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Number two, voice. I think Alexa and podcasts and Google Home, this, this I see four to eight years out. Text I see 18 months out. Those are two things I'm obsessed with.

• 33:04Ed Mylett?

  Okay, so everybody's got that, right? You just heard it from him. By the way, there's gonna be some beep video in about eight years where we replay this back and he's onstage talking about voice and text and the whole thing's done, I guarantee you.

• 33:15Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I love that stuff, like, I love it. And we're gonna both look at each other and be like, "Damn, we looked so good back then."

• 33:21Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Bro, you look like a fucking bee. I wanna see you in the fucking square circle. Like, I think, uh, you need to keep going with your momentum and end up in a WrestleMania in a couple of years. You just took it from me.

• 33:32Ed Mylett?

  I knew where you were going.

• 33:33Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I know, I'm sure you get it.

• 33:34Ed Mylett?

  So a couple of things really quick. I'm really interested about this too, because it's stuff that I know a lot of people would wanna know as well. I don't post in my social media almost ever about my family, yet, yet, yet, people seem to feel like more than most people, they know who I am. And then Gary Vee almost never or never does it, but like, I think your audience, people feel like they know who you are.

• 33:57Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Exactly, yeah.

• 33:58Ed Mylett?

  What do you think about the way you create content? Or is that, is that strategic?

• 34:04Gary Vaynerchuk?

  No, I think, I think in my, I think I'm just speaking the truth in the narrow lanes that I talk about. And I'm very comfortable in my own skin and I'm very good being me, because I'm comfortable. I think if you have confidence and you know what you're talking about and you don't have hidden agendas, you can really build something special.

• 34:23Ed Mylett?

  What did you believe 10 years ago that you thought was definitely true about life or business that you now know you were wrong about?

• 34:29Gary Vaynerchuk?

  That's a great question. 10 years ago, 34, what did I believe that, um... God, there's definitely stuff, um...

• 34:40Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Let me tell you why I'm pausing and I already am mad at myself because I think it should, I don't want it to come across as a lack of humility of like, saying wrong. I'm very scared how one-dimensional and narrow and deep I am. Meaning, at 13 or 14, a lot of these things became clear to me, or conscious to me, and almost nothing's changed yet. Like, uh, I knew that work-life balance was gonna be tricky as fuck because I was too passionate and I was a man of the world, and that's been true.

• 35:08Gary Vaynerchuk?

  You know, like, I'm not gonna sit here and say, "Oh, fucking, you know, I didn't realize that I'd be so busy and like, struggle with not wanting to miss stuff, but having to make choices, and having the strength to make choices both for family or business, and not overjudging myself. I already fucking knew that, Dad."

• 35:23Ed Mylett?

  Yes, but identical for me, identical. I, people ask me, what's, if there's a, if there's a hole you wish you were better at, or a flaw for you, business or life-wise, it's what you just described.

• 35:34Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Yeah, and honestly, I don't judge myself, like, I'm prepared for my children to say they wish I was around more. And I'm also, but I'm also prepared for them to show me that I showed them a life of doing what you love, so I taught them how to live. And that doesn't mean about money, and if they go in nonprofit politics, serving the public, whatever they may do, business, like, like, I, I, I think lead by example matters. You know, and I think I got lucky that technology makes me connected more than ever. Um, and I can physically be there way, way, way more than my father was. So like, you know, like, I, I, I think everyone's different, and I think you don't know. You have children that, I'm, this woman in the Philippines, I was at a conference, said something that blew my face off,

• 36:19Gary Vaynerchuk?

  which was like, she's like, you know, I used to resent my mother, because she was like a judge, and she worked her face off. And she's like, "But then, like, when I got older, like, it's become the foundation of my happiness." She showed me I could be independent and have a child, and I love her. And it spoke to me, because the reason I don't fear working so much, and potentially missing stuff, when I'm 10,000x more involved than my dad was, is because my dad is one of the loves of my life. We have a tremendous relationship. On the flip side, I don't make the assumption that my kids are gonna see it the same way, so I'm mentally, mentally prepared for them to be disappointed. And by the way, one will be and one won't be, that's so cliche, right? Like, and so like, I'm open to that.

• 37:03Gary Vaynerchuk?

  And I'm most open to adjusting. They're gonna now be 11 and 8 this summer, like, well, maybe things change. And then, by the way, things change when they get older. All of a sudden, you know... The only thing I think about is sitting courtside at Knicks games with my son, two times a week, when he's 14, a New York City kid, grab an Uber, meet me at the Garden, and fucking live life together.

• 37:25Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 37:26Gary Vaynerchuk?

  You know, so like, and that wouldn't have happened. And not that you need courtside, last row's great for me as well, back to the last story, but let's not get it twisted, especially where my life is. For my son at 13, when he's sitting there and Russell Westbrook comes over and gives him daps, he's gonna be fired the fuck up and it's fun. Now, what I also have to do is make sure I don't buy him shit, so they become spoiled as fuck, so he realizes like, cool, you want Russell Westbrook to fist bump your son or daughter, then you better fucking work.

• 37:52Ed Mylett?

  Absolutely. That's the nuance of doing what we do, by the way, are those two things. So last, I want to ask you last thing, I want to talk about All In before we conclude. You seem like the most certain dude any of us know. Just definitive, like, I've already decided, I'm gonna have these things with my kids. I've already decided, there's this balance, I've thought this through, I've got a plan. And I know humans are still humans. So, do you ever have doubt about something you could execute? Doubt about a decision you've made? And if you do, how do you turn that around quickly? And give everybody advice, because everyone listening to this suffers with some type of doubt.

• 38:27Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I don't have doubt in the things I talk about. So, and I don't talk about things I don't know. I have doubt that if a world war broke out, that I would have the, that I would be a frontline person. I wouldn't.

• 38:40Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I know it.

• 38:42Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I'm just trying to, like, it's such a non-manly thing to say, like, that sucked saying out loud, but I just know that I wouldn't. I, I, I just know I wouldn't. Now, a fight, I would. I'm really good like that. Like, a fight, I'm kind of like the, like, this, this is the truth, actually. I'm the second buddy that's gonna punch the other frat, like, you get in a fight, Ed, we're out. Somebody else, somebody else is gonna be first, I'll be second behind the fucking, but I'll, but I won't, I won't run away from that, because my brain doesn't think I would die.

• 39:11Ed Mylett?

  Got you.

• 39:12Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I fear death enormously, because, you're right, I am certain, which leads to ungodly amounts of love for life.

• 39:22Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I'm gonna be my saddest and worst version at the end. I know it, Ed. I know it. At 97, if they're like, "You got 6 months", I'm gonna, I hope that I don't, but back to certainty, I think I'm gonna struggle. Because I'd be like, "Fuck, 10 more. Why not?" I struggle to find people that love life more than me. I love it. The good and the bad. I'm willing to go to zero. Ed, when I fucking tell you, the thought of losing it all, having unlimited fucking people shit on me with all my content, making joke videos of split-screen of like, "I'm so great", and now, and the headline of like, "Gary Vee loses it all", sitting in my fucking studio apartment by myself in fucking Queens, where it all started,

• 40:05Gary Vaynerchuk?

  and looking at, and reading it all, that I was actually fake the whole time, that I fucking, I, I knew it. All that stuff, that weirdly excites the fuck out of me.

• 40:18Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Because, because A, it's never gonna happen, because I'm kind of one of these, like, "Put a million dollars in cash and bury it in the ground", you know, and that's a lot, a lot of money, and if I have to go to that humble place, "Give me that starting point, I'll get right back", B, I don't do the things that would lose all my wealth. I don't risk things like that. That's stupid. But, but if I would, it's really fucking cool to know that I would come back and fucking stick it in everybody's fucking face, bro. Right? And I would find every one of them, be like, like, I just know who I am. I'm just fucking, I'm from the dirt. I fucking have the humility, I have the confidence, I have the ability. I've been given it. I've been given it, and I know how I roll. And it fucking feels amazing, and I just want to do it as long as I can,

• 40:59Gary Vaynerchuk?

  because the legacy is intoxicating, and I'm for it. I am. That's what I'm for.

• 41:04Ed Mylett?

  Bro, thank you. I, uh, I knew you'd be open today, but that's pretty cool stuff you just said right there. That's pretty cool, man. That was-

• 41:10Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Yeah, you know what? I've never, listen, you've done a good job. You're, you're good at this. Like, I've never, ever, in the history of my life, even privately, said that I hate- That I know that I can't be the first person in the front lines of a war because I admire it so much.

• 41:26Ed Mylett?

  Me too. So do I. And the other thing that you said I love is that you love your life, brother, so much that you're willing to say these last six months, 50 years from now may not be real pretty because you're gonna want another 10 years on the ride.

• 41:38Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Yeah, and by the way, that's also why I don't do extreme stuff. Like I don't race fast cars or like jump out of planes. It is the fear of like, I don't, I don't get a high from it. Thus, what the fuck am I doing even if it's 0.01%? And I understand you could have a heart attack, you get it. Like that all makes sense, but, but for me, putting myself in a 0.01% chance isn't worth it if I don't get a high from it.

• 42:02Ed Mylett?

  Me too, brother. I won't take my kids ziplining. I won't even do that. I won't even do it. So we're very similar on that. My high is my own life and winning and serving people, making a difference, not jumping out of a plane. So speaking of that, we started in one place and I want to finish there.

• 42:17Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Let's do it.

• 42:17Ed Mylett?

  I think you love your life so much because your life's not about you.

• 42:21Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I think that's right.

• 42:22Ed Mylett?

  I think there's this energy of giving and growing.

• 42:24Gary Vaynerchuk?

  My selfishness is my selflessness.

• 42:28Ed Mylett?

  That's where I want to go. So when we started off camera, you said that to me. Please make that point and then remind them about All In.

• 42:34Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Look, I, I, I think that, you know, you know, giving is intoxicating once you get into it, but you can't give if you're not in a place of giving. And that doesn't mean money. That means happiness. And I, you know, I think, I think that you mean others. I'm really, really excited. I think the alpha male winner is starting to evolve. I don't think it means being a pushover, like some people get concerned that our culture is getting too woke on that. I think it means rounded. In that like, I, I want, I want people to feel comfortable in their selfishness. I love saying, I'll do it right now. I want everybody to sign up for wine text.com if you buy wine.

• 43:15Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Now that's my dad's business, but that, that is like my family business. So I want people to promote their thing. I wanted people to buy K Swiss. I want them to buy empathy wines. I want them to go to VaynerMedia and VaynerX.com and work with my companies. I want that. There's nothing wrong with that. And I don't want people to disguise, like, you know, like, you know what happens? You get into this gratitude guilt frame where when you're saying something, you hedge it with like, but it's altruistic. I'm like, you can have both. You can be altruistic and give and be awesome and be selfish and have a boat and a house and fucking millions of dollars. Like, it's all good. And by the way, you can also do whatever the fuck you want. But like, but there is no balance conversation right now.

• 43:57Gary Vaynerchuk?

  It's almost like you have to be foofy, foofy, give away everything or completely rogue, I'm all about me. And the reality is, everybody's in between. And I want to be great at both. Right? Like, like, like bleeding out of my eyeballs till three in the morning, this whole week, every day and being exhausted, but knowing that I'm one of the three energies, there's five energies, Alan Tish, you know, Michael Rubin, the founder of it, and me, and then Fanatics's company and VaynerMedia's company, they're working right this second.

• 44:28Gary Vaynerchuk?

  That have helped in five days to raise 10 million dollars that's gonna feed some kid in Mississippi, some elderly woman in West Chester, like, like, eat, to fucking eat. Not to mention all the happiness that comes when you're the person that wins the fucking speaking role in Leo and you're just a normal person and for months, you and your friends are just happy every day talking about it. Eighty-three people in your world, they, like, there's so much good that can be done, both selfless and selfish. I'm like, sitting here, I just said it, right before this. I'm here to make a connection with somebody I know, to promote AllInChallenge.com. Please go donate some way, some shape, 10 bucks minimum. And, and, oh, the Gary Vee experience, by the way, is gnarly.

• 45:14Gary Vaynerchuk?

  It's like, what I did was nuts, like,

• 45:15Ed Mylett?

  What is it?

• 45:16Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I mean, it's so mu- uh, $25,000 shopping spree at my dad's store at Wine Library. Uh, go to a tailgate with me and then watch a Jets game with me, but I won't talk to you during the Jets game because I'm crazy. Uh, go garage, it's the ultimate meet. Go garage sailing with me and do a trash talk episode. Wine dinner for you and 10 of your friends. I'll fly you to three of my keynotes. You'll be in the green room and sit front row of all of those keynotes. Spend a week at VaynerMedia with me and Team Gary Vee to build your business. A couple other things, so,

• 45:43Ed Mylett?

  Bro, that's awesome.

• 45:45Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Real good ones. So, everybody who liked this or has always liked me or has decided they like me now or even if you hate me, just go to AllInChallenge.com and support because it's good. But, but I, I really want to end with this. Be happy. And you need to define happiness for yourself. It's not me, it's not Ed, it's not anybody else. But know this. Most of you are living based on somebody else's opinion. Your mom, your dad, your girl, your guy. Uh, the anonymous comments on your post. How many people are still posting sexy pictures? Because that gets more likes, but they've already evolved into having expertise around something else. But they still have to show abs and muscles and tits and ass. For validation? Fuck that. Let's get out of this insecure high school shit once and for all.

• 46:28Ed Mylett?

  Bro, that's the, that could be the gift of this time. And if people like you, myself, continue to message this during this time, I just, I feel like consciousness is changing a little bit, brother.

• 46:37Gary Vaynerchuk?

  And it, by the way, it a hundred percent is, just like I'm good at Facebook and Twi- Twitter, I've always believed what I thought. Two years ago, me talking about, you know, self-esteem and kindness and empathy from an alpha place. That wasn't, that was me knowing the time was up. You know what I mean?

• 46:52Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.

• 46:54Gary Vaynerchuk?

  It just got time. It just got time. Listen, and there's a time for fun. I, I may razz Lambos and baby giraffes and things of that nature, and there's a time for that too. It just became all that.

• 47:04Ed Mylett?

  You're right, brother.

• 47:05Gary Vaynerchuk?

  And I, and I started watching kids in their twenties only aspire to do that. And then I started looking at drug culture, being inappropriate with women culture, uh, stealing and cheating culture. Whack fake entrepreneurship culture. And I just started saying, okay, we're about to raise an entire generation of dudes that are fucking dick faces. And I was like, fuck it. I can do it. And as soon as I start doing it. The other eighty-seven fucking alphas who know it's right to, especially when they see me explode, which is exactly how it fucking works. And all of a sudden, fucking, like, it just started becoming the thing, and it's amazing. And it fucking, it will be my greatest legacy. I know right this minute. That when I go into the fucking ground right before it, I'm gonna be like, and then there was that chapter where I fucking reframed alpha males. And it's the biggest fucking thing I can do.

• 47:50Ed Mylett?

  Brother, I love getting to know you better today. This is, let me tell you what's cool. I've admired you. Obviously, like I've told you all of your giftedness. Um, but I wanted you to be this guy. This is who I wanted. You know what I mean? Like.

• 48:03Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Yeah, you never, no, no, you never know until you really go there.

• 48:06Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

• 48:07Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Yeah, you know.

• 48:08Ed Mylett?

  We're like, ah, man, or, or when you meet, you're like.

• 48:11Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Hundred percent. Oh. By the way, going through this all and challenges, I know it's gotten me a little bit more into Hollywood culture because I'm just handholding a lot of these things. It's devastating when some people in popular culture are considered like kind and super sweet and are like mean to their teams. It breaks my soul.

• 48:27Ed Mylett?

  I know, me too, brother.

• 48:28Gary Vaynerchuk?

  It breaks my fucking soul.

• 48:30Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, me too. And what I got out of today, everybody, I know you did too, I got that you're even more of a giver and more kind than I knew. Obviously, your articulation is unreal, but I love the way you articulate the work, the stuff, what really matters. It was, it was all of what I was hoping for. So, brother, I'm glad we've made this connection.

• 48:46Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Looking forward to it, Jimmy.

• 48:47Ed Mylett?

  Many years, and I feel like it's probably the beginning of something really special for you.

• 48:50Gary Vaynerchuk?

  I can't wait, man. I can't wait. We'll definitely chop, brother.

• 48:52Ed Mylett?

  Hey, everybody. I want to remind you about the max out two minute drill because I want to engage with you more, and I want to get you recognition as well. So every day I post at the same time, 7:30 Pacific, 10:30 Eastern. So turn your notifications on and make a comment in the first two minutes. If you do that, you qualify to win. You can win a trip on my jet, coaching calls with me, coaching calls with my guests, max out gear, tickets to see me speak, copy of my book, all kinds of cool stuff. Three ways to win. Make a comment in the first two minutes when I post, reply to other people's comments. That increases your chance of winning. And if you miss the first two minutes, just make a comment on every post I make all week, Monday through Friday, and we pick winners who just comment on every post. So go ahead and engage with me. Turn your notifications on, follow me on Instagram, and I look forward to connecting with you.

• 49:33Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Thank you so much. Thanks for everybody listening.

• 49:35Ed Mylett?

  God bless you guys.

• 49:36Gary Vaynerchuk?

  Take care.

• 49:37Ed Mylett?

  Okay, see you, bro.

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