EP.278 - ROB AUTON

Adam walks along London's Regent's Canal with British comedian, artist, writer and actor Rob Auton and talks about Rob's creative process, winning a best joke award at the Edinburgh Fringe for a joke he no longer tells, his upbringing as the son of a plumber and a baker and how his background informs his appreciation for the everyday, infinite universes, the value of taking artistic risks, and reading out reviews for his live shows while they're being written. Conversation recorded face-to-face walking by Regent’s Canal between Shoreditch, King’s Cross and Camden on 17 October, 2024. CONTAINS STRONG LANGUAGE SUBMIT QUESTIONS FOR A Q&A EPISODE: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] Thanks to Diggory Waite and Claire Broughton at Hattrick and Séamus Murphy Mitchell for production support. Podcast illustration by Helen Green https://helengreenillustration.com/ RELATED LINKS ROB AUTON WEBSITE https://www.robauton.co.uk/ - Tour dates etc. THE FIRST DARK IMAGE OF BACON'S DEATH https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2008/dec/07/francis-bacon-art - 2008 (The Guardian) ADAM ON WHERE THERE'S A WILL THERE'S A WAKE https://youtu.be/V7-PMa5skkQ?si=sGyGWDyfjds9Povz - 2026 (YouTube) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:00Adam Buxton?

  I added one more podcast to the giant podcast bin. Now you have plucked that podcast out and started listening. I took my microphone and found some human folk. Then I recorded all the noises while we spoke. My name is Adam Buxton, I'm a man. I want you to enjoy this, that's the plan.

• 0:31Adam Buxton?

  Hey, how are you doing, podcasters? It's Adam Buxton here. I'm joined by Rosie, who is my best dog friend. Hot dog. Oh, so hot. I know, well, it's another heatwave. Early July 2026. So we're not taking the usual crunchy track by the fields today. Instead, we're walking down towards the river. Look, Rosie, you gonna go for a dip? I may do. Oh, look, there's a big old swan there. How do you get on with swans? I don't know. Great big swan just standing in the shallows there.

• 1:15Adam Buxton?

  Hello, swan, we come in peace. We're just recording links for the Adam Buxton podcast. Swan has taken to the water and is now moving away. Didn't those swans made that noise? Quite piggy. Eh. Well, I think because the swan is there, Rosie, I should probably keep you on the lead, if that's okay. Why? What do you think I'm gonna do? Well, I was thinking probably harassment and intimidation. That's what you do with the rabbits and the squirrels. That's the old me, I would never do that now. Well, I'm gonna keep you on the lead just to be safe. I don't wanna be responsible for any swan grief.

• 2:01Adam Buxton?

  Here, look, I brought a collapsible water dish and I've got some nice cold water here.

• 2:12Adam Buxton?

  There you go. Have some of that, Rose.

• 2:25Adam Buxton?

  Quite nice.

• 2:27Adam Buxton?

  Oh, look.

• 2:29Adam Buxton?

  This one's gone. I mean, it's not the absolute most beautiful part of the river, I don't think, but

• 2:36Adam Buxton?

  I'd better get on with this intro. There's too many creatures around. Go away. Back at the house, we've got an infestation of flying ants at the moment. Oh, jeez. Just grabbed some thistles and now I am attracting a lot of flying ants. They're everywhere. Oh, my God, it's flying ant Glastonbury. All right, you know what, Rosie? We're going to abandon the riverside plan. Right.

• 3:07Adam Buxton?

  Back on the crunchy track.

• 3:10Adam Buxton?

  Rosie has headed home to her favourite cool spot underneath the kitchen table. So, hey, how are you doing, Podcats? Thanks very much to all of you who came along to the Bowie Bug Shows at the Lightroom in King's Cross last week. They were, if you'll forgive me for saying so, very good and a great success, so much so that we may do more later in the year. I'll keep you abreast. Might even keep you three. The next podcast will be the last of this current run and it's going to be the inaugural listener Q and A episode, answering questions that some of you submitted over the last

• 3:53Adam Buxton?

  few weeks, talking to Diggery, Diggery Wait, who, along with Claire Broughton from Hatrick, has been helping me with production duties on the podcast this year. And that Q and A episode next week will also serve to launch the new Patreon bonus area, which I am trying out. If you sign up for that Patreon, which you should be able to do next week when the episode comes out, you will be able to access extra episodes and bonus content that will come your way in the lonely months when the main podcast is on a break. In that first Q and A episode, which will be available to everybody on the main feed

• 4:38Adam Buxton?

  for free, I will also be sharing details of an Adam and Joe live anniversary show.

• 4:45Adam Buxton?

  Which will be happening later this year to celebrate the fact that we're still alive. Thirty years after Joe Cornish and I started making the Adam and Joe Show on Channel Four back in nineteen ninety-six. So I'll be giving you details of dates and venues in the next episode. But right now, let's get to episode number two hundred and seventy-eight. This one features a nice outdoor ramble through London with comedian, writer and actor, Rob Orton, Ortonfax. Rob was born in York in nineteen eighty-two and grew up in the village of Barbie Moor, near Pocklington in the east riding of Yorkshire.

• 5:29Adam Buxton?

  After studying graphic design at university in Newcastle, he moved to London and got a job at an advertising agency. But after a while, he grew frustrated with writing advertising copy and far preferred filling notebooks with his own ideas instead. When his creative director mentioned that he was holding a fireworks night featuring poetry, Rob read some of his poems aloud for the first time. And in two thousand and eight, he began performing a few of his poems along with other thoughts from his notebooks for live comedy audiences. Since his twenty-twelve Edinburgh Fringe debut with The Yellow Show, Rob has created

• 6:11Adam Buxton?

  twelve hour-long fringe shows each year, picking a subject that's important to him. For example, the sky, faces, water, sleep, hair, talking, time, crowds and himself. In twenty thirteen, he won the Dave Funniest Joke of the Fringe Award for a joke that, as you will hear, he no longer tells, other than to explain why he no longer tells it. In twenty fourteen, he served as the Glastonbury Festival's official poet in residence. His work has been played on the radio by Jarvis Cocker, Keris Matthews and Scrubius Pip. And he has published four collections of writing and drawings, plus I strongly believe

• 6:55Adam Buxton?

  in incredible things, a celebration of everyday wonders in poetic prose, short stories and biro drawings published in twenty twenty-one.

• 7:07Adam Buxton?

  At the end of our conversation, you will hear Rob reading a little bit from it. In 2020, Rob started the Rob Orton Daily Podcast, and for a while, he posted a new episode every single day in which he blended humorous reflections on everyday life with poetical words and music. Rob is also an actor who's appeared in Cold Feet, The End of the Fucking World, Miracle Workers, Starstruck with friend of the podcast Rose Matafeo, and The Change with friend of the podcast Brigitte Christie. And he made his film debut opposite Danny Dyer in 2025's Marching Powder. Ah, Marching Powder. Good, stuff it how you like that.

• 7:51Adam Buxton?

  I haven't seen Marching Powder, I don't know if that's what it's like. Earlier this year, 2026, Rob toured with his first narrative show called Can: The Story of a Man Called Can, about a man who was once the world's leading motivational speaker. The show sold out venues across the UK, including two runs at London's Soho Theatre. And next month, August 2026, Rob takes his brand new show Jupiter, a story about being an estate agent on the planet Jupiter, to the Assembly Roxy Central at the Edinburgh Fringe for the full month before embarking on his biggest ever nationwide tour.

• 8:32Adam Buxton?

  You'll find more info and ticket links at robauton.co.uk. There's a link in the description for your convenience. That's okay, you're welcome. My conversation with Rob was recorded one afternoon in mid-October 2024. I had been thinking around then that it would be nice to change things up as far as the location for recordings went, have some different sonic textures in the mix, you know? Anyway, so we agreed to meet by Regent's Canal near Shoreditch, and then we strolled over towards King's Cross. Very nice. But I was trying out some new out and about clip mics.

• 9:15Adam Buxton?

  And uh turned out the levels on one of the mics were a little off for a chunk of the recording. And so the episode got delayed until I had time to do a bit of technical fixing. But then, you know how it goes, it fell into the organisational twilight zone. But as regular listeners will know, a 21 month delay is by no means the record on this podcast. Still, it's far from ideal and I apologise to Rob, to you listeners and to everybody that I've hurt. I'll be back at the end to say goodbye. But right now, strolling and getting to know Rob Orton. Here we go.

• 10:38Speaker 01

  We've looked out with the weather here.

• 10:40Adam Buxton?

  It's nice. It's been quite grey and crappy the last few days. But right now, the sun has come out and I am here with Rob Orton. How do you describe yourself if people don't know you?

• 10:57Speaker 01

  Uh, pretty tall, pretty anxious, writer.

• 11:03Adam Buxton?

  Is that what you go in with if you meet someone at a party?

• 11:06Speaker 01

  Hi Rob, I'm quite tall.

• 11:08Adam Buxton?

  Yeah, I'm tall. Hey, you may have noticed.

• 11:10Speaker 01

  No, if someone was to say, what would you do for a living? Someone did ask me recently, I think, maybe it was one of the builders or something. And I always just say, oh yeah, I'm a, I do stuff at the Edinburgh Festival like, and I try to change the subject as quickly as possible. Which I don't know why, because I'm proud of what I do, but.

• 11:31Adam Buxton?

  Sure, but the danger is that they'll say, if you mention the C word.

• 11:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:35Adam Buxton?

  Comedian, that is.

• 11:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:37Adam Buxton?

  Not cunt, because that'd be a bit much. But if you say that you're a comedian, then they're gonna wanna joke.

• 11:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:45Adam Buxton?

  And, I mean, you, though, have won Best Joke at the Edinburgh Fringe.

• 11:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:51Adam Buxton?

  Back in the day, when was that, 2013?

• 11:53Speaker 01

  It was.

• 11:54Adam Buxton?

  And so, you're in an even worse position, because you're like a joke-winning comedian.

• 12:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, but the thing is with that is that I remember when I had the idea for that joke. And it's the only kind of time that those wires in my brain have connected and sparked. And it's like, I wish that I could, I could be like a joke writer.

• 12:18Adam Buxton?

  So, obviously you have to tell us the joke, though.

• 12:20Speaker 01

  Well, it's interesting, this, and this is, um.

• 12:26Speaker 01

  I don't say the joke anymore, because language has kind of changed since 2013, so the joke was, I heard a rumor, Cadbury's are releasing an Oriental chocolate bar, could be a Chinese whisper.

• 12:40Adam Buxton?

  Yeah.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  Right?

• 12:41Adam Buxton?

  But Oriental's off the menu now, isn't it?

• 12:43Speaker 01

  Oriental is off the menu, but at the time, it was on the menu.

• 12:49Adam Buxton?

  What, and why is Oriental off the menu? I mean, I got the memo, but there wasn't an explanation. Because it's too general, it's offensively general.

• 12:57Speaker 01

  Blanket word, is it?

• 12:59Adam Buxton?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 12:59Speaker 01

  I think that's, you know, I just want everyone to feel as good as possible. Anything I can do to stop people feeling uncomfortable when I'm on stage, absolutely do it.

• 13:10Adam Buxton?

  Right, well, you said earlier on that you think of yourself as tall and anxious, is that right?

• 13:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, not like a, I mean, I did say that, that is, that is a fact, yeah.

• 13:25Adam Buxton?

  But you are generally a happy person.

• 13:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm buzzing.

• 13:30Adam Buxton?

  Yeah.

• 13:31Speaker 01

  Like, I'm 42, but I still feel like everything's ahead of me, which is kind of mad.

• 13:36Adam Buxton?

  No, but it's true, it is, of course it is. I mean, it is literally true, because time travel doesn't exist.

• 13:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I was watching something the other day, they said, this is the youngest you're ever gonna be in your life.

• 13:48Adam Buxton?

  There you go, yeah, I think that quite a lot.

• 13:52Adam Buxton?

  When I look, I mean, you haven't, presumably you haven't got to the point in your life where you're looking in the mirror and you're going, ah, Jesus. And when I say, ah, Jesus, I'm not suggesting that you're, you look so much like Jesus that that's what you're saying.

• 14:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know. Well, that is the thing. And, cause I've got quite long hair and a beard at the moment. Well, no, so it's, I was, I was out the other night and it was like, I was sitting at a table where I was looking at my reflection. And it kind of ruined my night. I was like, I wanted to swap places.

• 14:22Adam Buxton?

  What was wrong with your reflection?

• 14:25Speaker 01

  I would think I was just having one of those nights. Do you have them?

• 14:29Adam Buxton?

  Yeah, loads.

• 14:30Speaker 01

  Where you're just like, oh, God. And then the, the thing that does my nuttin' is the fact that you only get back the energy that you give out. So if I'm sitting there and I'm not really giving much and I'm like, oh, why was, why was people kind of quiet with me tonight? I'm like, well, it's because I was quiet with them and I want to be like Billy Conley in social situations. I've been like dragging people into the good times, being so funny and so articulate and just a riot. But I'm not that, I'm not that person, you know?

• 15:06Adam Buxton?

  Yeah.

• 15:07Speaker 01

  But I wish I, I kind of wish I was. Does everyone? I don't know. I'm not saying does everyone wish I was that person? I don't know, I don't know if I could handle the pressure anyway.

• 15:19Speaker 01

  I, I try to live every day like it's my first and try to stay excited about canals and leaves and people on bikes, you know? And just the, the fact that I even get to experience it at all is wicked. And I tried to write about it and I got a bit in my new show of thinking, obviously the universe is massive and there's infinite amount of universes. And what they say about Shakespeare.

• 15:51Adam Buxton?

  I think that's just a theory though, isn't it? I mean, you're saying obviously, but I'm pretty sure we don't know for certain there's an infinite number of universes.

• 15:59Speaker 01

  Really?

• 16:00Adam Buxton?

  I don't think that's a given.

• 16:02Speaker 01

  Don't you?

• 16:02Adam Buxton?

  No, that's just a theory.

• 16:04Speaker 01

  Anyway, sorry. What do you think happens after this universe? It's just nothing forever?

• 16:11Adam Buxton?

  I, I mean, that's one of the theories. I'm not sure you can rely on there being an infinite number of universes. But I wouldn't.

• 16:20Speaker 01

  I'm relying on it.

• 16:23Adam Buxton?

  This is terrible news.

• 16:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, what? I'm gonna hold it in my show. I think it's a common fact that there's an infinite amount of universes.

• 16:31Adam Buxton?

  I might be wrong, listen, I don't know what I'm talking about, I'm not Stephen Hawking.

• 16:34Speaker 01

  What they say though about, you know, with the monkeys and the typewriters being able to type out the Shakespeare.

• 16:41Adam Buxton?

  Yeah, so far they haven't done that, as far as I'm aware. It's just another theory.

• 16:45Speaker 01

  They can't get enough monkeys, can they?

• 16:47Adam Buxton?

  I think people like that whole theory of infinite universes because it's inspiring. It makes you value what's good about your own life because there's so many other ways that it could have gone. So that makes you grateful for the things that fate has conceded. But then on the other hand, the problem with that whole infinite universe thing is that you're just overwhelmed by the possibilities that there are. I think that can sometimes have a paralyzing effect.

• 17:15Speaker 01

  I think it frees me up because it makes me feel so small.

• 17:18Adam Buxton?

  Okay.

• 17:19Speaker 01

  And, you know, when you see those things on the internet when it shows you the earth and then the next ball is slightly bigger, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, and then it just gets bigger and bigger and bigger and you're like, whoa, okay. And when I see those, it does flip me out of it, but I do, I feel like, yeah, come on.

• 17:42Speaker 01

  But then I've got to find my national insurance number and all that crap, yes. It's like that lyric that I absolutely love from Neutral Milk Hotel, which so many people have got tattooed on them. "Can't believe how strange it is to be anything at all." That's probably one of my favourite lyrics ever.

• 18:28Adam Buxton?

  Is that, um, Over the Sea?

• 18:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, in the aeroplane over the sea, yeah.

• 18:32Adam Buxton?

  Yeah. I don't know that album very well, but my, my son really likes it.

• 18:36Speaker 01

  It really is two sides of me going, "Oh God, what, what? I can't believe that this is a temporary thing."

• 18:44Adam Buxton?

  Yeah.

• 18:45Speaker 01

  But also, wow, it is a temporary thing, so come on. Let's go. And then I was sitting in my garden this morning, thinking, just take a moment to kind of think, "Oh, you're gonna go and speak to Adam Buxton this afternoon?" "You have a podcast that I listen to so much." And thinking, "Don't just let that pass you by and worry about it. Don't just worry about it. Think, what have I put in to be able to hopefully have something to talk about?" And that is like 10 years of, not 10 years, I've been doing this since 2012 full-time, but I did my first gig in 2007, and it's been an absolute slog.

• 19:30Adam Buxton?

  Yeah.

• 19:32Speaker 01

  But it will never stop being a slog, right? I don't think it ever stops. And the realisation of that, of going, "Well, no one's ever gonna give you just like a golden key and say, 'You don't have to work.'" Hey, you don't have to work anymore. And then if you don't, I'll get upset anyway, because I love working and having ideas and making stuff. And I must think about that, like with bands that I love. Like, it hasn't stopped for them. Like, you know, with Radiohead, right? I mean, does Tom York ever just sit around and think, "Yeah, I'm just an absolute ledge"? Probably not.

• 20:11Adam Buxton?

  I don't know. I wonder if he does. He gets told it enough.

• 20:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, but we're walking down the street then and people are paying you compliments. It's like, does that just bounce off? And if so, what are we working towards?

• 20:23Adam Buxton?

  Yeah, that's true. I don't think you ever reach a point where you think, "Okay, I've smashed it, I've nailed it, I can retire."

• 20:46Speaker 01

  Well, no. I did a gig in Hepton Bridge at the Trades Club.

• 20:52Adam Buxton?

  Love it.

• 20:52Speaker 01

  And afterwards, in the morning, I went to see Sylvia Plath's grave.

• 20:59Adam Buxton?

  Oh, is that in Hepton Bridge?

• 21:00Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I was stunned. It's mad, isn't it, when you go to a churchyard, to a graveyard, to try and find a famous person's grave? And you're like walking past all the other graves going like, not you, no, not you, just discard him.

• 21:16Adam Buxton?

  Boring, boring.

• 21:17Speaker 01

  People boring.

• 21:18Adam Buxton?

  Pointless.

• 21:19Speaker 01

  And, um, yeah, I found Sylvia Plath's grave and I was kind of...

• 21:25Speaker 01

  People have left all pens and pencils on the top of it.

• 21:27Adam Buxton?

  Okay. Not bell jars?

• 21:31Speaker 01

  No. Poems, pens and pencils. And I was standing there and I thought, oh, God, you know, you've made it when people have left pens and pencils on the top of your headstone.

• 21:45Speaker 01

  And then I thought, it was like, come on, Rob, you're alive. That's making it.

• 21:50Adam Buxton?

  And you've probably, you can afford pens and pencils, right?

• 21:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, one of my favourite things to buy, I used to work in an art shop as well.

• 21:57Adam Buxton?

  Oh, yes.

• 21:58Speaker 01

  Cass Art on Berwick Street.

• 21:59Adam Buxton?

  Oh, I love it.

• 22:00Speaker 01

  Um.

• 22:01Adam Buxton?

  Paintbrush boy.

• 22:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. And, you know, one of my favourite sites in Sainsbury's is, uh, an on offer pack of Bix. They've got really cheap, you know, sometimes you can get ten for one pound fifty. But I think, um, I'm up there as the world's best pen loser. I just, I can't keep them. Can you?

• 22:25Adam Buxton?

  We've got drawers. I mean, we've got so many.

• 22:28Speaker 01

  Have you?

• 22:28Adam Buxton?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the lockdown though, I labelled all the drawers and I had a big pen cull. I went through and I tested every single biro, soft felt tip pen that my kids had accumulated over the years. There was buckets of these things.

• 22:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:45Adam Buxton?

  And I went through every single one. I got rid of the ones that didn't work. I kept and organised the ones that still worked. I put them in a drawer. I labelled the drawer. It was pretty good.

• 22:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, awesome. So originally were they in? Like chaos straws.

• 23:01Adam Buxton?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 23:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:02Adam Buxton?

  In the playroom, you know, in piles, in stacked up in tins.

• 23:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:09Adam Buxton?

  Like old peanut tins and things like that, just a load of biros and unmatching felt tips. It used to stress me out.

• 23:17Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 23:17Adam Buxton?

  So badly. First of all, it was like, why have we got all these felt tips? We've got too many felt tips. It's grotesque. But that's having kids. It's just a waste. Oh, we're killing the planet. There's gonna be no planet for these kids just because we got them so many pens.

• 24:22Adam Buxton?

  What are your parents like? Did you grow up in a kind of philosophically fluid environment? If that's the phrase.

• 24:32Speaker 01

  Not really.

• 24:33Adam Buxton?

  Were you guys sitting around and chatting about the meaning of life in the Orton household?

• 24:38Speaker 01

  Not so much. It was, I think that's probably, they've given me such a solid foundation that I feel like I can almost dance around on it a bit.

• 24:48Adam Buxton?

  Mm hmm.

• 24:49Speaker 01

  Which I'm really thankful for.

• 24:52Adam Buxton?

  Um. What was the scene?

• 24:54Speaker 01

  My dad was a plumber.

• 24:56Adam Buxton?

  Uh huh.

• 24:57Speaker 01

  And, um.

• 24:59Adam Buxton?

  Happy plumber?

• 25:02Speaker 01

  He's a funny guy, my dad, and really good in company. But I think plumbing is really tough. And I remember once we were having Christmas dinner. And someone came down the drive. Well, at the house and we were having our Christmas dinner and they said, oh, can you come and help me? Like, I've got water coming in through the ceiling. They didn't know where else to go on Christmas Day. And he was like, yeah. And it's funny thinking about those memories because he was probably my age. Right. When that was happening.

• 25:45Speaker 01

  And they really encouraged me to play sport. And it was great because the village we I grew up in, there was a playing field. You'd go cycle, I'd be out every night playing football. Absolutely did not realise how lucky I was to have that. And my mum worked in the local hotel. Mm hmm. As a waitress. And stuff that I just took for granted, like the house always smell of bread. Yeah. Because my mum made the bread buns for the hotel. And I didn't even think about that when I was a kid. But there was the work tops were always full of like these bread buns with like clean tea towels on them and to help them rise and. It's like my mum made the bread for the hotel.

• 26:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. The bread buns, you're having a laugh like, how did that even come about? When she was being interviewed, did they say, oh, can you make bread? And she's like, yeah, and then she took some round in a tin. It's like, try this. She made them at home and took them in? Yeah, homemade bread and they. Right. And there was a swimming pool at the back of that hotel. And it was always freezing, but sometimes my mum would be, if it was a hot day, she'd say. Oh, Pat and Peter, that was who, the people who run the hotel, they said, oh, you can go for a swim in the pool if you want.

• 27:05Speaker 01

  And it's funny when you're a child, like, I never really clocked that of how kind of good that was.

• 27:11Adam Buxton?

  Free pool time?

• 27:13Speaker 01

  Bit of free pool time and um.

• 27:15Adam Buxton?

  And free buns.

• 27:16Speaker 01

  And free buns, yeah.

• 27:18Adam Buxton?

  And no leaks.

• 27:20Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 27:21Adam Buxton?

  That's paradise you're describing.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  I know, I actually remember one of my school friends coming around who lived in a town slightly closer. And went into our bathroom and he was like, what? This is great bathroom and I just took it all for granted because he's obviously, he was great. Plumbing, good attention to detail.

• 27:42Adam Buxton?

  Yeah.

• 27:42Speaker 01

  Very tidy.

• 27:44Adam Buxton?

  Good with the mastic, is it mastic?

• 27:46Speaker 01

  I think so, or I don't know, don't know.

• 27:48Adam Buxton?

  The gel stuff that goes round the joints.

• 27:51Speaker 01

  I was watching videos of that today. The sealant.

• 27:54Adam Buxton?

  Yes, sealant, there you go.

• 27:55Speaker 01

  Um.

• 27:56Adam Buxton?

  Are you good at plumbing?

• 27:57Speaker 01

  Nah, I'm not good at plumbing, no. But there was a time last year when I, our washing machine broke. Have you ever had that? Where you, you open the door and it's just kind of your clothes are sodden.

• 28:13Adam Buxton?

  Yeah.

• 28:13Speaker 01

  And you're like, okay.

• 28:14Adam Buxton?

  It hasn't drained.

• 28:15Speaker 01

  It hasn't drained, what we're gonna do.

• 28:17Adam Buxton?

  It's very sad the first time that happens.

• 28:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:20Adam Buxton?

  Cause you just think, what, how does this work? What did you do?

• 28:23Speaker 01

  Oh man, it was, it was an afternoon. You know, when your afternoons just change.

• 28:28Adam Buxton?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 28:28Speaker 01

  You think you've got something going on and then the washing machine has other plans and. But I fixed it and I got the filter open and I found a bit of plastic in it that was stopping it from draining and I sorted it out and I was really pleased with myself.

• 28:44Adam Buxton?

  It's a great feeling when you manage to.

• 28:46Speaker 01

  And I was thinking about really privileged people, like, is Kim Kardashian, has she ever done that?

• 28:52Speaker 01

  Uh, who knows?

• 28:52Adam Buxton?

  She's got different achievements. She's achieved some incredible things in the world of bum fashion.

• 29:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:00Adam Buxton?

  And she's had many of those amazing moments where she's solved a bum fashion problem that's come along. That you and I wouldn't, we wouldn't even know where to start and she has sorted it.

• 29:12Speaker 01

  I'd say so.

• 29:13Adam Buxton?

  So, let's not create a hierarchy of achievement, that's all I'm saying.

• 29:18Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 29:19Adam Buxton?

  But I hear you and it is an amazing feeling to sort something out. Conversely, a terrible feeling is to phone up a professional, they come out.

• 29:32Adam Buxton?

  They're gonna charge you a hundred and fifty quid because it's a weekend. You've got an electrical problem or something. They go in, they open up the circuit board, they flip one switch.

• 29:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:43Adam Buxton?

  And everything is fine. And it's just because you're a stupid ignorant twat who hasn't figured out how your own electrics work.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:53Adam Buxton?

  When they come around, sometimes I do feel like they're just thinking. This guy, look, he's living in this nice house in the middle of the countryside, but he doesn't even know how to. Work a circuit board, basic circuit board etiquette, this guy doesn't have. Like the other day, the, we had a power cut and in the middle of the night, and it was all, every time it gets stormy where we are. The lines go down and we got no power. And uh. The other day it was really bad. And in the middle of the night, these guys from the power company come around and it was like a scene from E T, they all had. Their yellow boots and their protective gear on and they've got flashlights and.

• 30:38Adam Buxton?

  I'm standing in the doorway and the glare of the flashlight is preventing me from actually being able to see their faces and there's these. Shadowy figures and they're like, yeah, we're trying to sort out the problem. But I think we're gonna have to connect up a generator because it's not gonna be fixed for a few days. Have you got three phase out here? I said, I don't think so. I don't think we got three phases. I think you probably do. This old farm property. I was like, yeah, but it hasn't been a farm for a while. Yeah, but I see farm buildings around here. It's probably three phase. I was like, I, I just don't know if it is. And then I started to get this vibe like he was torturing me. About how ignorant I was about the three phase.

• 31:19Adam Buxton?

  And eventually I was like, listen, I don't know if we've got three phase or not. I'm sorry, okay? Why don't you come in and find out? That's the best thing. Don't worry about your muddy boots. You're the electrician guy. You come in and find out the three phase situation and let's move forward, shall we? I'm terrible if that makes you feel happier. All I know about is indie bands from the late seventies. Apart from that, nothing. I've got nothing. Please sort out the power problem. So that was going on in my head, but it was a bit stupid really because. He was just trying to be helpful and find out if we had three phase.

• 31:54Speaker 01

  I think I would have said.

• 31:57Speaker 01

  The only time I've heard of three phase is I think it's in a street song. Plug in the three phase on the generator.

• 32:03Adam Buxton?

  There you go.

• 32:03Speaker 01

  I think so.

• 32:04Adam Buxton?

  Was that written after last week? Because it could have been about my experience. Could have been written by the guy who came round to our house.

• 32:15Adam Buxton?

  Was the chorus. I just been round to a fucking idiot and he doesn't know if he's got three phase. He thinks that I'm gonna help him out. But he can't fuck himself. Was that the chorus?

• 32:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:28Adam Buxton?

  Oh, okay. That was written about us.

• 32:31Speaker 01

  I just spin round to a fucking idiot. He doesn't know if he's got three phase. He thinks that I'm gonna help him out. But he can fuck himself. That doesn't sound like a streets.

• 32:44Speaker 01

  I've been doing quite a lot of DIY recently.

• 32:46Adam Buxton?

  Oh, wow.

• 32:47Speaker 01

  Painting. I'm just treating it like an art project, really.

• 32:51Adam Buxton?

  Your painting skills.

• 32:53Speaker 01

  Are good.

• 32:53Adam Buxton?

  Are better than one might imagine.

• 32:56Speaker 01

  Well, no.

• 32:57Adam Buxton?

  Did you go to art school?

• 32:58Speaker 01

  I did, yeah.

• 32:59Adam Buxton?

  Ah, well, there you go. I mean, that's.

• 33:00Speaker 01

  That was my thing. At my, at school, that was my strength.

• 33:04Adam Buxton?

  What were you studying? Just.

• 33:06Speaker 01

  At school, my, my best subjects were art and graphic design.

• 33:10Adam Buxton?

  Ah, yeah, okay.

• 33:11Speaker 01

  I think that's a good thing about art. You don't need to know much about it to be able to do it.

• 33:15Adam Buxton?

  Yeah.

• 33:16Speaker 01

  And I, I know a bit about art. I know that I love Francis Bacon and. Um, what he said about that he wants to be, uh. He wants his body to be put in a bin bag when he's dead.

• 33:29Adam Buxton?

  Is that what he said?

• 33:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, and like thrown in the gutter and like, he's just like, I just wanna live now. And he's not bothered about any of that and.

• 33:36Adam Buxton?

  Did they put him in a bin bag after he died?

• 33:37Speaker 01

  I don't think so.

• 33:38Adam Buxton?

  No.

• 33:38Speaker 01

  But I think that's what I love most about art is that, um. Anyone can get in the mix of it.

• 33:44Adam Buxton?

  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I remember a Francis Bacon quote. In fact, I think I've even used it in one of my jingles. And he said. The other day I was walking along the street. And I looked down and I saw a dog shit. And I thought, that's like life.

• 34:10Adam Buxton?

  That was the end of the quote. I mean, I don't know, like, like, there's a lot of ways you could interpret that. That's not necessarily. A condemnation of life, is it? That might be, that might be saying, you know, dog shits are, there's more to them than you might imagine.

• 34:30Speaker 01

  Funny, isn't it? I just like his use of red.

• 34:34Speaker 01

  Crimson. And uh. Is, I look, one of the things, cause I, yeah, my strengths at school were art and. Graphic design, so I went to art school in York. And then moved up to Newcastle and did a degree in graphic design and one of the tutors there said, the risk always wins. And that stuck with me and that Francis Bacon kind of goes with that with like throwing paint at the canvas and. Seeing what happens. And I definitely subscribe to that of uh.

• 35:07Speaker 01

  The risk always winning. And I'm thinking about my new Edinburgh show.

• 35:13Speaker 01

  I was doing the show. I was, I did one lineup show that was in a place called The Hive in Edinburgh. There's doubles as a nightclub. And I was in there. On a Friday night and my show was at two fifteen during the day and I was looking forward to just kind of messing about on stage. And there was a seat. On stage that no one had kind of addressed and it was just facing the wall. But it was on the stage and it was like, is no one gonna talk about that? When I got on stage, I was like, whose seat is this? And they didn't say anything. I said, does anyone wanna sit on this? And face the wall? And didn't know, and then I just kept on asking and then eventually someone got up and.

• 35:57Speaker 01

  Sat on the seat on stage and faced the wall. And it was electrifying for me. And then I said, all right, special treat, you can turn around and face the audience now. And then it was like, well, at least I've got one of you on my side, you know, and then I was doing my set. And I was like, what, what do you think about that bit? And.

• 36:20Speaker 01

  I was just, my heart was going, I'd never done anything like that before. And I pretty much didn't take my hands out of my pockets for the whole show. I mean, I've never done that, but it was just that I'd put myself through, it was towards the end of the fringe and I'd put so much pressure on myself to kind of get into my show every day and try and do the best job I can and then how loose it became on stage was just, I loved it. And I'd learnt so much, I was in Melbourne and I was hanging out with a couple of clowns and they were saying, it's just all about play. You've got to play, you've got to have fun.

• 36:58Speaker 01

  And maybe I've kind of, I haven't been playing enough on stage and risk is exciting. And I'm excited by risk and I don't want to become stagnant and I think that's art, I feel like, people playing and trying to see if it flies as art is exciting for me.

• 37:19Adam Buxton?

  What are the things that you've seen on stage that inspired you in a similar way? Have you ever seen something that made you think, wow, that was, I wasn't expecting that?

• 37:29Speaker 01

  Well, Bob Dylan was, Bob Dylan was the first one.

• 37:32Adam Buxton?

  Bob Dylan comes up a lot in this podcast.

• 37:34Speaker 01

  I imagine, yeah.

• 37:35Adam Buxton?

  All roads lead back to bobbles in one way or another. And what was it that you first saw of him that made you go, oh, hello?

• 37:43Speaker 01

  I was in, I think it was MacArthur Glen Designer Outlet. And was there a music shop there? Maybe there was, but I bought a best of Bob Dylan. And his line from Desolation Row that was, Einstein disguised as Robin Hood with his memories in a trunk passed his way an hour ago with his friend the jealous monk. He looked so immaculately frightful as he bummed a cigarette, he went off sniffing drainpipes and reciting the alphabet. And I was just, I was like, whoa, I couldn't believe it. I could not believe that an adult was saying stuff like that.

• 38:20Adam Buxton?

  Yeah.

• 38:21Speaker 01

  And loads of people were loving it.

• 38:26Adam Buxton?

  Oh, look at this, we've got Long Tom, a canal boat that's passing by here.

• 38:33Speaker 01

  And Bob Dylan's driving it. That is a stroke of luck.

• 38:36Adam Buxton?

  Let's have a rebel chat. I'm a podcat. Thank you, Bob.

• 38:43Speaker 01

  But Bob Dylan, he was the first one that made me think, "Oh, maybe this world isn't as rigid as it seems."

• 38:51Adam Buxton?

  Right.

• 38:52Speaker 01

  And maybe you can play.

• 38:56Adam Buxton?

  How do you want your life to go? Like, what would, do you ever think about, do you have career goals? Are you organising your days in that way? Do you go, "Well, I would like to get a sitcom or I would like to do a film"? Do you think in those terms or are you just shambling through?

• 39:16Speaker 01

  I've definitely, I'm definitely driven. I take my days very seriously. I think Jack White said, or a quote that I like from his is, "He just wants to make things that he wants to see exist." And I think that that is kind of what I'm doing at the moment is just answering the call of the idea when they come to me and not ignoring them. I think that my main driving force is that if an idea comes, get it down as quickly as possible. And if it ever gets to the stage where I'm like, "Ah, I'm not doing that", then that'll be, I'll be like, "Whoa, no, come on." Every time, get it down as quickly as you can.

• 40:01Speaker 01

  Get those words down in the order that they came to you. Because whenever I try to remember something on a night, I was like, "Oh, what was it"? It was something like, you just fudge it and it never works.

• 40:11Adam Buxton?

  Yeah.

• 40:11Speaker 01

  You know, some of the best memories I've had of when I'd just start writing on the night and don't stop. And then you wake up in the morning and you know, before things have kind of started to register with you and then you go, "Oh, yes! God, I wrote that!" And then you read it and you're like, "Oh, yes, I did that!" And then that is massive for me. But I would definitely like to make something for the screen.

• 40:40Speaker 01

  I mean, I've I've done a tiny bit of acting. I'd like to do more. And the only reason is, not the only reason, but one of the reasons is that people take it so seriously.

• 40:50Adam Buxton?

  Yeah.

• 40:50Speaker 01

  But the acting that I have done, I've loved it.

• 40:54Adam Buxton?

  It's good fun. I mean, it is ridiculous, though. You know, like, I love actors and acting. I love doing it, and I have loved doing it. And I love watching actors when they're good. But on the other hand, it's ludicrous the extent to which actors are revered in our culture and, you know, worshipped as gods. And yet, they pretend to be someone else for a living. They can't, they're not even themselves. Their whole existence and everything that we admire about them is based on them just pretending to be someone else. I mean, I know that's a very obvious thing to to say. It's like, I think everyone understands that.

• 41:40Adam Buxton?

  But at the same time, when you, when you, sometimes you catch yourself thinking about it and you're reminded of it. And I suppose you see it most obviously when it's done badly. And when people aren't good at acting, that's why people get so angry with bad films and bad TV shows, because it's like an affront to the pact we all have. It's like you sort of say, well, look, you can do this ridiculous, stupid thing, but you have to do it very, very well. And then when people don't do it well, you're like, you have done a giant shit on our trust.

• 42:18Speaker 01

  It's funny with, you know, when you grow a beard, like I did a show about hair color, hair show. I grew my hair and beard for eighteen months.

• 42:26Adam Buxton?

  Right.

• 42:26Speaker 01

  And didn't touch it. And it just went like a bit of a wild man. And people stopped sitting next to me on the tube and people would wait for the, they wouldn't get in a lift with me and things like that.

• 42:39Adam Buxton?

  Yeah.

• 42:40Speaker 01

  I struggled with that, but I was committing.

• 42:43Adam Buxton?

  They wouldn't get in a lift with you, why? Because you look like a unhoused person.

• 42:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:48Adam Buxton?

  God.

• 42:49Speaker 01

  And then I was, I was in, I was in a thing with Danny Dyer called Marching Powder, right?

• 42:57Adam Buxton?

  Yeah, fucking right, mate. Love it. I love a bit of it.

• 43:01Speaker 01

  This year. I was, I did the audition and it was with Nick Loft, who had done like The Football Factory and everything.

• 43:09Adam Buxton?

  Yes, king of the DVD commentaries.

• 43:12Speaker 01

  On the lead up to the filming, I saw that Danny Dyer had been getting shot by the paparazzi. And it was in the paper. And I had a couple of scenes with him and I thought, oh, yes, maybe I'll get papped.

• 43:23Adam Buxton?

  Yeah.

• 43:24Speaker 01

  And when we were doing the filming in Dagenham outside this restaurant, sure enough, there was a photographer with a long lens. And I thought, oh, yes, this is it. And I was waiting for it. I was looking on all the news websites and then it came up. And I scrolled down and then there was a picture of me and Danny Dyer outside this restaurant. And the caption was, Danny Dyer was photographed in between filming with a homeless person.

• 43:53Adam Buxton?

  You were convincing enough.

• 43:55Speaker 01

  I was. And I'm pleased about that.

• 43:57Adam Buxton?

  Yeah.

• 44:01Speaker 01

  Right, let's go again.

• 44:03Speaker 02

  What don't you fucking understand? Kick your fucking ass! Let's go again! What the fuck is it with you? I want you off the fucking set! You prick! No! You're a nice guy! The fuck are you doing? No! Don't shut me up! No! No! Ah, da-da-da-da like this. No! No! Don't shut me up! Ah, da-da-da-da like this. Fuck's sake, man, you're amateur. Seriously, man, you and me, we're fucking done professionally.

• 44:31Speaker 01

  I want to read more. Someone said to me, "Oh, to be a good writer, you've got to be a good reader", but I don't know. I don't think you have to watch loads of porn to be good at making love.

• 44:47Adam Buxton?

  Speaking of Sylvia Plath and poetry, would you like to read some, because you're a poet?

• 44:55Speaker 01

  I do poetry gigs and I do writing, but for me, poetry, poet. Or poetry is like a.

• 45:02Adam Buxton?

  It's a bit much.

• 45:03Speaker 01

  Praise word. You know, if someone, if someone said, oh, that's, that's poetry, that, that's like, can be anything from. The engineering on a car door, the way it, like the, the ergonomics on it, you know, or, or like a football pass or. I think just because poetry, I, when I started writing, I would send. Some of my writing into this website called Poem Hunter.

• 45:31Speaker 01

  And it was like a blog and the only, you know, people could leave comments and someone. Wrote a comment saying, I've rewritten your poem for you. It's, it's rubbish, but it's better than your rubbish. And they'd just rewritten it, but it rhymed. And for me.

• 45:48Adam Buxton?

  How did you feel about that?

• 45:51Speaker 01

  I just kind of laughed it off really. And I think that it should be called rhyming. Just because something rhymes doesn't mean that it's poetry for me.

• 46:00Adam Buxton?

  So they had not improved it in your estimation?

• 46:03Speaker 01

  I don't think so. But I think over the years I've kind of developed a. Good relationship with criticism.

• 46:15Speaker 01

  It's kind of, you know.

• 46:18Speaker 01

  I love um.

• 46:21Speaker 01

  Seeing what people think.

• 46:22Adam Buxton?

  Yeah, I noticed on your website you include negative as well as positive pull quotes.

• 46:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think that's important. In Edinburgh this year, there was a couple of reviewers on the front row and my. Sound technician came down and said, just to let you know.

• 46:40Speaker 01

  There's two reviewers on the front row. I've asked them if they'd like to move and they said, no, they're fine. So they've got notepads out and. I went out and just like, I was told that you're going to be reviewing this show.

• 46:54Speaker 01

  How's it going? And then took their notebooks off them and started reading out. What they'd written and one of them had put um.

• 47:05Speaker 01

  Oddly moving. I'd only been on for, stage for like a minute and I was, I was like, oh yes, already.

• 47:11Adam Buxton?

  Were you moving oddly?

• 47:12Speaker 01

  I was.

• 47:14Adam Buxton?

  That might have been it.

• 47:15Speaker 01

  Just doing a funky dance on stage. Actually, one of them said, "I wish you would just slow down."

• 47:25Speaker 01

  So the next day I did slow down.

• 47:27Adam Buxton?

  Not that night though.

• 47:29Speaker 01

  No.

• 47:31Adam Buxton?

  Just to spite them.

• 47:34Adam Buxton?

  I've seen your note and I've taken it on board, but I'm not acting upon it tonight.

• 47:39Speaker 01

  But I will read something, yeah.

• 47:41Adam Buxton?

  Okay, what have you got?

• 47:42Speaker 01

  Well, when I was talking about, um, trying to think of each day being my first. I kind of thought, I wish I'd written a diary entry on the first day of my life. What would that have been like? And I think one of the most exciting things for me about writing is that you can create

• 48:02Speaker 01

  what doesn't exist and things that you want to exist, you can make them exist through writing and create these places that you can go to. And this is called 24th of the 9th, 82.

• 48:15Speaker 01

  Dear diary, it's 8:50pm on Friday night and I've just been born. With the whole weekend in front of me, as well as my entire life. It feels great being born on a Friday night. I guess I need to start getting ready. I'd like my funeral to be on a Friday night. Service at 7pm. Wake until late. At least then it'll be Saturday the next day for everyone else. People won't have to worry about work in the morning. They can concentrate on morning in the morning. I don't need to think about that yet. Yesterday I didn't officially exist. Now look at me.

• 48:56Speaker 01

  I've actually been crying quite a lot so far. It's not that I don't want to be here, it's just that at the moment, it's the only thing I know how to do with any real conviction. My first day on earth and it's my birthday. What a coincidence. I can't see any party preparations. Maybe it's going to be a surprise, just like I was. It would just be family anyway. When you're born, you only have family because you haven't had a chance to make any friends yet. Instant family, just add life. I wonder what my parents will want me to do with my time. Make the most of it presumably.

• 49:40Speaker 01

  That's what all parents want for their children, isn't it?

• 49:44Speaker 01

  I owe it to myself to try to enjoy it.

• 49:49Speaker 01

  I'm not sure what the plan for tomorrow is yet. I'll just take it one day at a time. I can't really remember yesterday, this time last month is even more fuzzy, ten months ago was.

• 50:00Speaker 01

  My heart is beating, which is absolutely fantastic. Wow, what an encouraging organ. Keep going, will you? Unbelievable the support you've shown me so far. We'll never meet in the flesh, I hope, but. Thanks for everything. I haven't seen myself in the mirror yet. I wonder what I will look like when I'm off all day old. I hope I don't look too old when I'm a day old. A day is a long time when you're only five minutes old.

• 50:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. Beautiful. I think I just love um having a go. Hmm. When I first started doing poetry nights, I used to go to the poetry cafe in Covent Garden and sometimes there would be thirty people reading for five minutes each. And just the amount of different words and that I got to hear and people's stories. Just amazing. Hmm. And I found it so inspiring. And you know, looking at people on the tube and knowing that they've all got these stories inside them, I find that incredible.

• 51:09Speaker 01

  I think that's something that I struggle with is like I know that this is the only time that I'm gonna get to be here. And uh

• 51:19Speaker 01

  I don't want people to spoil it.

• 51:25Speaker 01

  Do you know what I mean?

• 51:29Adam Buxton?

  Yeah, I do.

• 51:49Adam Buxton?

  Hey, welcome back, podcast. That was Rob Orton, talking to me there way back in October 2024. But he still exists and he's going to be at the Edinburgh Fringe all through August and then touring thereafter with his new show Jupiter. There's a link in the description to his website where you can find out more. Oh, I am being munched by tenacious summer insects. I'm gonna head home, get inside, out of this crazy heat.

• 52:27Adam Buxton?

  By the way, I was saying in my conversation with Rob that I never got the memo about why saying oriental was especially offensive. I'm quoting now from one thing I found. Calling a person oriental is no longer acceptable because it is viewed as outdated, eurocentric and dehumanising. It reduces complex, distinct groups of people into a single foreign category. Yeah, I mean, it's your classic eurocentrism. It's just basically saying, oh, over there people. No one wants to be thought of as an over there person.

• 53:10Adam Buxton?

  Hey, I was on Where There's a Will, There's a Wake. Which used to be hosted by Cathy Burke, but Mel Gedroich took over as the regular host last year, I think. And it's one of those kind of high concept shows where you get asked questions according to a controlling premise. In this instance, it's that you've died. I mean, not a million miles away from Brett Goldstein's Films to be Buried with podcast, but this one doesn't veer off into film chat. Actually, having said that, I haven't seen the final thing. I don't know if they kept it in, but we did do some film chat. We chatted about Kristof Kizloski, actually, about a

• 53:55Adam Buxton?

  short film about killing, which I had recently watched. Anyway, it was very nice to talk to Mel. It was filmed, which made me quite sad, but by the time I realized it was being filmed, it was too late to get out of it. So you can see me in my uniform, orange shirt,

• 54:18Adam Buxton?

  which at one point, a few months ago, my wife said to me, oh, you look great in that orange shirt. And so I was like, yeah, okay, I'll wear that for lots of things then. But I don't know if I agree that I look great in it. Might retire it for filmed events from now on. I need a stylist. Anyway, where there's a world, there's a wake. You can see it on YouTube or download it in audio form from all the places. Well, look, that's it for this week. I've got to get back and get this edited and just get out of the heat zone.

• 55:07Adam Buxton?

  And next time we are together, it will be for the Q and A episode. Myself and Diggery chatting through some of the questions that you guys sent in. And thereafter, for Patreon subscribers, those Q and A episodes will come through fairly regularly. So keep those questions coming in. The address to submit them is in the description of today's podcast. Thank you very much indeed to Diggery for his conversation editing. Thank you to Claire Broughton from Hatrick as well for additional production support. Thanks to Seamus Murphy Mitchell, as ever, for his production support. Thanks to Helen Green.

• 55:52Adam Buxton?

  Thanks to everybody at Acast for liaising with my sponsors. But thanks, I'm gonna have to say most of all to you. Because without you, there just wouldn't be any point. What would be the point? I mean, I could carry on doing it as a sort of art thing, couldn't I? But it's more fun when there's people listening. How do you feel about a hot hug? Come here, hey. How's it going? Hmm, you smell like holidays. Until next time, we share the same sonic space.

• 56:29Adam Buxton?

  Go carefully, stay hydrated, put on your sun cream, don't do bad things, don't think in pure thoughts, stay very still, and in case it makes a difference, bear in mind that I love you. Bye.

• 57:10Speaker 03

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