Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick are joined by Jillian Michaels as they cover the Trump tariffs on Mexico and Canada going into effect, TSMC's $100B investment in the United States, Tim Walz running for President in 2028, and the world's reaction to PBD's exclusive interview with Andrew Tate. ------ ☘️ ST. PATRICK'S DAY COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3EX16tt 🖥️ MINNECT CIRCLES WEBINAR: https://bit.ly/4hVTkPK 👕 GET THE LATEST VT MERCH: https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw/ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 1:08Speaker 02

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right here.

• 1:12Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one-on-one? My son's right.

• 1:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, we can. Okay, fantastic. Episode 556, gang. Last night, we had a friend in town, Jillian Michaels, the great Jillian Michaels. We went to dinner last night at Casa di Angelo. Let me tell you, I had no idea how much of a diehard Andrew Tate fan she was.

• 1:38Speaker 04

  Huge. She got emotional.

• 1:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Seriously.

• 1:40Speaker 04

  She goes, I have never.

• 1:41Patrick Bet-David?

  She's like, where is he?

• 1:43Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:43Patrick Bet-David?

  I thought we were gonna have dinner together. And it was like the entire time.

• 1:47Speaker 04

  You had to grab her to come back.

• 1:48Speaker 05

  That's what I came for.

• 1:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:49Speaker 05

  I mean, you guys, drop liver.

• 1:52Speaker 04

  She sat down and said, no, Andrew, and almost ran out of the restaurant. So I'm happy I grabbed you.

• 1:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, if it wasn't for the carpaccio, I was out, man.

• 2:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, you know what I wouldn't mind doing? Here's what I'd love to do. I'd love to see Andrew sit in between four ladies and do a show and him being grilled and see how he takes it. How he handles himself.

• 2:15Speaker 05

  Terribly.

• 2:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I would, well, let's see.

• 2:17Speaker 05

  Why, we've already seen.

• 2:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Jillian, let's, but I'd like to see what you would do if that would happen.

• 2:21Speaker 05

  I would curb stomp him.

• 2:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You're, stop.

• 2:24Speaker 05

  I cannot, he is a despicable character.

• 2:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 2:28Speaker 04

  There we go.

• 2:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Curb stomp him.

• 2:30Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 2:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Like a.

• 2:31Speaker 05

  Pistol whip.

• 2:32Speaker 04

  American history, yeah.

• 2:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Pistol whip.

• 2:34Speaker 04

  Edward Norton.

• 2:35Speaker 05

  Boom, that's right, Al.

• 2:36Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the first thing I thought about, Edward Norton.

• 2:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, man, that's what I'm talking about.

• 2:40Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so maybe, listen, maybe we'll.

• 2:41Speaker 04

  Is there like a little bit of?

• 2:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Set that up.

• 2:43Speaker 04

  Sexual chemistry there, none?

• 2:46Patrick Bet-David?

  He is, he's got zero.

• 2:47Speaker 05

  No.

• 2:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, listen, I can tell you, anytime we have interesting guests on, whether it's him, whether it's, I can have a list of 20 guys that we've had on. How could you, I cannot believe this and I cannot believe that and I'll tell everybody every time.

• 3:02Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 3:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Be patient, we're gonna do many more of these. You're not gonna like them, we're gonna talk to people, you don't like them, you have the right to have your opinion, we're gonna have the conversation and it can go from there. What we will do is, we will have that convo. My biggest thing was when people are even afraid of hearing the other side for you not be able to decipher for yourself and say, here's, I disagree, I agree with that part. That's why I would love to see the two of you guys one day chopping it up. Anyways, guys, stories to cover here today. Few things, one, Mexico, Canada tariffs will be implemented due to unacceptable drug flows, Trump says. The moment he starts announcing it, the Dow dropped 650 yesterday, just so you guys know. So the market is panicking a little bit.

• 3:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Bloomberg does a story talking about the fact that car prices are poised for $12,000 surge on Trump's new tariffs. Hexit warned of military action if Mexico fails to meet Trump's border demands.

• 3:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump promises to pardon Pete Rose. Pete Rose? Are you kidding me? The Pete Rose is like all time hitter. Pistol Pete? Unfortunately, I like the way he said it. I wish he could have experienced being alive to go to the Hall of Fame. That's a shame that that never happens, but can you imagine he wants to pardon him? Uh, Trump rips Zelensky for calling into Ukraine war very, very far away. Worst statement that could have ever been made. Zelensky won't apologize to Trump, but calls clash not good for both sides. Not good for both sides. Zelensky meets with British Prime Minister Keir Starmer in London following Trump's Oval Office clash. Uh, Trump says the Ukraine mineral deal not dead yet, the deal, but Zelensky should be more appreciative.

• 4:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Bill Maher endorses a Trump-like Democrat to run for president. He doesn't dress like a Trump, but there is a Trump-like Democrat. Wait till you see who that person is. AOC asks NPR host to clarify the problem when he asks about migrant crisis concerning voters. Clarify the problem. Can you imagine that? Andrew Cuomo, uh, is launching his mayoral bid in New York City. California waits for Harris's decision for governor race. But folks, some good news here for some of you guys that want some goodness. I don't know how your day's been. Uh, Tim Walz says he is considering running for president in 2028. Yeah. So if you needed some entertainment, Tim Walz, he's ready for it for 2028.

• 5:19Speaker 05

  No.

• 5:19Patrick Bet-David?

  And listen, this is commitment to America.

• 5:21Speaker 05

  No.

• 5:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Come on, Tim.

• 5:23Speaker 05

  Is that real?

• 5:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Come on, Tim, come on, Tim.

• 5:24Speaker 05

  Hold on, is it, is this an April Fool or for real?

• 5:27Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, this is knuckleheads. Tim Walz says he may run for president in 2028 despite failure Harris campaign. I'm willing to do whatever it takes. We're finished with. Rahm Emanuel.

• 5:36Speaker 05

  Wow, it's gonna take a lot.

• 5:38Patrick Bet-David?

  It is gonna take a lot. Rahm Emanuel, who's, uh, you know, guy who's been on the left, Chicago politics, says we have disaster on crime in some them cities due to permissiveness. And then says, as a kid, I would have pretended to be trans to get into girls' rooms, but the issues talk about too much. So he's kind of being sarcastic about it, but that's one of the topics we'll talk about. Buffett calls Trump's tariffs a tax on goods and says the tooth fairy doesn't pay them. Microsoft to shut down video calling pioneer, who remembers Skype?

• 6:10Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, the original Zoom.

• 6:12Patrick Bet-David?

  It's crazy, right Skype to shut it down. It's a little bit sentimental for Vinnie. Earlier we were talking about it, he got us a little bit, but it's okay. Boomers are struggling to land that one job before hitting retirement. Uh, Sergey Brin 60 hours. We're gonna play the clip of Jamie Dimon. Uh, the recording that was leaked, that was a couple of weeks ago, but if you haven't heard it, you have to hear it. Florida condo crisis is here. California's minimum wage $20 has sparked major job losses. Seattle's got the same issue. Seattle's original Starbucks officially closed down. Pretty intense, the first one ever, closed down. And then aside from that, I got a bunch of other stories for Epstein. Jelaine Maxwell is considering seeking presidential pardon from Trump. I got an idea about Jelaine Maxwell. I have a very unique idea about Jelaine Maxwell. I'd like them to consider.

• 6:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Joy Reid went on a anti-Semitic rant. Adam wasn't happy about it. Elon Musk reveals biggest Ponzi scheme he unmasked through Doge. And then a couple of stories here that are, we have to talk about. Being a parent keeps the brain young, especially if you got multiple kids. It's a study finds that it's good for you, Vinnie.

• 7:16Speaker 04

  So I better stop using condoms or else I'm gonna become Joe Biden? No, especially what he said. I'm gonna stop becoming Joe Biden. Alright, no condoms, guys.

• 7:22Patrick Bet-David?

  This next one here doesn't apply to the people at this podcast. But it says, why men can't help falling in love faster. Men send, say I love you before women do. It's, it's proven, it's a study. So, so we got a couple of this.

• 7:37Speaker 04

  We can talk about that.

• 7:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, please, Vinnie, go ahead.

• 7:40Speaker 04

  I say one thing really fast, as all you guys, when's St. Patrick's Day? St. Patty's Day, 17, Monday. So it's Monday. But I, I, I want everybody to know this, and Pat, you have no idea. But today is actually, it's a new holiday. It's St. Patrick but Davis Day. And he's the saint of lost entrepreneurs. And guess what? We have a collection, Pat, you're gonna love this. Look at this.

• 8:00Speaker 06

  Oh wow.

• 8:01Patrick Bet-David?

  That's supposed to be me?

• 8:02Speaker 04

  This is.

• 8:02Speaker 06

  That's supposed to be me?

• 8:04Speaker 05

  I love that.

• 8:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Very complimentary of the nose, Vinny. That is a very, that's a nice nose job.

• 8:09Speaker 04

  So, I'm gonna let you guys know, so we have a collection, Rob.

• 8:12Speaker 06

  The fabric's nice, you should've spent more on the artist, though.

• 8:15Speaker 04

  Guys, that's the collection, look at that. So we have t-shirts, we have the hat, we have the Future Looks Bright with the little leprechaun thing, this is Pat, this is, guys.

• 8:23Patrick Bet-David?

  This is St. Patty's Green Day?

• 8:25Speaker 04

  St. Patrick the David Day. And guys, anybody that gets a purchase, you get this, you get Pat's little sticker.

• 8:30Speaker 05

  Oh, there's a sticker?

• 8:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't place an order.

• 8:32Speaker 04

  No, no, no, guys, I want, you know.

• 8:35Speaker 05

  $2.99.

• 8:36Speaker 04

  He wants a million people walking around with Future Looks Bright. I want at least 200,000 people.

• 8:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't want a single person buying that shirt with my face on it, not one.

• 8:44Speaker 04

  And one last thing.

• 8:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I swear to God, I'm calling everybody that places an order, file an complaint.

• 8:48Speaker 04

  Are you ready for this? Whoever spends the most amount on this collection in the next 24 hours, you get this. Chris, can you bring this in? You get this.

• 8:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop, you are so funny.

• 8:58Speaker 05

  God, how much?

• 9:01Speaker 04

  You get that, no.

• 9:02Speaker 05

  How much?

• 9:03Speaker 04

  Well, you have to get, whoever, in 24 hours.

• 9:05Speaker 05

  I gotta have that.

• 9:06Speaker 04

  And whoever gets it, the whole PVD Podcast team with Jillian are gonna sign it.

• 9:10Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, hold on.

• 9:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, we're gonna give you a message. So the winner, the winner's gonna get that.

• 9:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 9:15Speaker 05

  Oh, that's nice.

• 9:16Speaker 04

  And we're all gonna sign it and leave a message.

• 9:18Patrick Bet-David?

  For you, Chris.

• 9:18Speaker 04

  We'll even put Jillian on it.

• 9:19Speaker 06

  Where are we gonna sign it, on his cheeks?

• 9:21Speaker 04

  We're gonna put it on his cheeks, so that's what, so just go to, go to VTmerch.com and, uh, yeah.

• 9:24Speaker 06

  PVD, I.

• 9:25Speaker 04

  Are you mad, are you mad at the shirt? I actually like it.

• 9:27Speaker 05

  I love it.

• 9:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I like the quality.

• 9:29Speaker 05

  I love, that's amazing.

• 9:30Speaker 06

  The quality is always fantastic.

• 9:31Speaker 04

  What is that, velvet?

• 9:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Like I said, guys, if.

• 9:33Speaker 04

  Me?

• 9:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Stand up to see the shirt, Vinny, they can't see it.

• 9:35Speaker 06

  It looks great.

• 9:36Patrick Bet-David?

  I swear to God, if you place an order with that shirt, I'm calling you.

• 9:40Speaker 06

  PVD, I.

• 9:40Patrick Bet-David?

  File an complaint.

• 9:42Speaker 06

  Okay. I love you in Seinfeld, PVD.

• 9:44Patrick Bet-David?

  You like me in Seinfeld?

• 9:45Speaker 06

  Love you in Seinfeld, right there.

• 9:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright.

• 9:46Speaker 06

  Look like Michael.

• 9:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, guys, so that's, that's for Future Looks Bright, St. Patrick's Day, VTmerch.com. Let's go to the stories, can we do this? You guys are funny. By the way, is that gonna stay in Vinny's shot the entire time? That is hilarious. Leave it, leave it like that, I, I, I.

• 10:00Speaker 05

  I'm thinking I can fit that in the trunk.

• 10:02Speaker 04

  That looks like a.

• 10:03Speaker 05

  I think I can get that in the trunk.

• 10:05Patrick Bet-David?

  That looks like a tee coat. That looks like a little tee coat.

• 10:07Speaker 05

  I gotta have it.

• 10:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright.

• 10:08Speaker 06

  I'll be here if you need me.

• 10:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's get into it, let's get into it, let's get into it. Let's start off, Rob, with the whole Zelensky-Trump issue, which got a little bit out of control. So, we all saw the clip of the exchange between the two, that the moment Zelensky started threatening that, hey, you have some things that you have to worry about as well, and that wasn't a good look, when he went there. We've seen this clip, Rob, if you can fast forward to maybe thirty seconds when he tries to say things about President Trump and he's not ha- Right there, that's good. Watch this clip here, I'm sure you've seen it, but we'll repeat it, go ahead, Rob.

• 10:43Speaker 07

  ...people in your military, and do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country? A lot of, a lot of questions, let's start from the beginning. Sure. First of all, during the war, everybody has problems. Even you, but you have nice ocean, and don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future. God bless.

• 11:08Speaker 04

  You don't know that.

• 11:08Speaker 07

  God bless, God bless, you will not have war.

• 11:11Speaker 04

  Don't tell us what we're gonna feel. We're trying to solve a problem, don't tell us what we're gonna feel.

• 11:16Speaker 07

  I'm not telling you.

• 11:17Speaker 04

  Because you're in no position to dictate that, remember this.

• 11:20Speaker 07

  I'm not dictating.

• 11:20Speaker 04

  You're in no position to dictate what we're gonna feel.

• 11:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Audacity.

• 11:25Speaker 04

  We're gonna feel very good.

• 11:26Speaker 07

  You will feel influence.

• 11:27Speaker 04

  We're gonna feel very good and very strong.

• 11:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at this.

• 11:30Speaker 04

  You're right now not in a very good position. You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position, and he's happens to be right about it.

• 11:37Speaker 07

  From the very beginning of the war, Mr. Breha.

• 11:39Speaker 04

  You're not in a good position, you don't have the cards right now. With us, you start having cards, but right now, you don't, yeah, you're playing cards. You're playing cards, you're gambling with the lives.

• 11:49Patrick Bet-David?

  So, while this is happening, President Trump comes out on Truth Social, and says that an end to Ukraine war with Russia was very, very far away, writing, "This is the most, uh, this is the worst statement that could have been made by Zelensky, and America will not put up with it much longer." It is what I was saying, this guy doesn't want there to be peace as long as he has America's backing and Europe in the meeting they had with Zelensky, stated flatly that they cannot do the job without US, probably not a good, uh, not a great statement to have been made in terms of show of strength against Russia. What are they thinking? After a fiery Oval Office clash, Trump said, "You're either going to make a deal, or we're out. And if we're out, you'll fight it out." I don't think it's gonna be very pretty. So, that's been, that being said, Rob, yesterday-

• 12:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Stories trending that President Trump ends the aid to Ukraine. Okay, and we saw that. I don't know if you have that or not, Rob. Where he flat out says, "We're ending the aid to Ukraine." Is this the clip, Rob?

• 12:47Speaker 06

  Uh, so I have Fox News reporting. I don't have Trump, but I can find it.

• 12:51Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's okay. This is the one. They're saying they're ending the aid. This is the clip. I've seen this as well. Play this clip.

• 12:55Speaker 04

  Tomorrow, Brian, our Lucas Tomlinson reporting, "The United States is pausing all US military aid to Ukraine." "Until President Trump determines the Ukrainians show a commitment of good faith peace negotiations." That's according to a senior Trump administration telling Fox. "This is not a permanent termination of aid. It is a pause." "The orders are going out right now." The official said this in response to Ukrainian President Zelensky's conduct over the last week and his words over the weekend. Uh, so it's all stopping, Brian.

• 13:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, keep in mind, the aid is done. I'll show the next story and then I want to react, get a reaction from you guys here. Pull up the story from CBS I just sent you, Rob. So while all this stuff is going on, Putin's been saying, "What does this guy really want?" And what did NATO promise they would never do? And what did Bush promise? What did US promise? What did NATO promise? "We will never want to do anything with Ukraine being part of NATO." Now, watch this. Ukraine Zelensky says he would give up presidency in exchange for peace and NATO membership. This guy is trying to negotiate a deal into getting into NATO. All of this stuff that's taking place, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. And then the UK Prime Minister, UK President, comes out defending him,

• 14:08Patrick Bet-David?

  saying the mineral deal is not going to happen. It's not this, it's not that. So they're making it even tougher. Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

• 14:15Speaker 00

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• 15:11Speaker 06

  First, we will keep the military aid flowing and keep increasing the economic pressure on Russia to strengthen Ukraine now. Second, we agreed that any lasting peace must ensure Ukraine's sovereignty and security. And Ukraine must be at the table. Third, in the event of a peace deal, we will keep boosting Ukraine's own defensive capabilities to deter any future invasion.

• 15:44Speaker 06

  Fourth, we will go further develop a coalition of the willing to defend a deal in Ukraine and to guarantee the peace. Not every nation will feel able to contribute, but that can't mean that we sit back.

• 16:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. Tom, your thoughts on the story?

• 16:04Speaker 06

  So, boy, where do you go on this?

• 16:09Speaker 06

  I think everybody has seen the, all of the historical constructs, and there's been a lot of people that, old speeches and things that are on Twitter showing where this started. And this didn't start with Russia's invasion. This goes back to 2014. This goes back into overthrowing a rightful president and putting in a new regime in Ukraine. And this goes back to the progressive eastward expansion of NATO. And, you know, Russia keeps saying, hey, stop, you said you weren't going to do this. Can you stop that? And then the Baltic States, and then the southern states, and then Georgia. And it's like, stop. And so now you've got Europe over there saying, we're going to back you up.

• 16:54Speaker 06

  We're going to do this and back you up. You have to remember where this started. And no, Russia shouldn't have invaded there. And this... The heartfelt loss of life that's happened in Ukraine to all the average citizens is horrifying. The count that everybody keeps talking about is a million Ukrainians have lost their lives in this conflict. This is horrible. It's like 10 Covid's. And so, you know, I look at all of Europe, you're gonna back up this guy and give him a backstop that gives him no... He doesn't have to find a peace deal with Russia. He doesn't have to negotiate with Russia. He can keep flipping off Putin because these people are gonna back him up now.

• 17:32Speaker 06

  So, how do you get Ukraine to the table to say, "Hey, look, you know, we gotta find a way forward on this." And to me, I find it very, very difficult. And what's equally galling to me is there's things that the media and the other foreign countries aren't talking about. It's just how much we gave as grants versus giving as loans.

• 17:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you pull up that chart, Rob? Can you pull up that chart? Just go straight to my Twitter account.

• 17:57Speaker 06

  So, it's complicated, but underneath, I'm pretty torqued.

• 18:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Twerked?

• 18:02Speaker 06

  Twerked. Torqued. He doesn't twerk. No, no. Like, Adam, I know where your mind is.

• 18:06Speaker 05

  Ben out of shape.

• 18:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Ben out of shape.

• 18:08Speaker 05

  I got you, Tom.

• 18:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's the word.

• 18:10Speaker 06

  I was picturing Tom's working. I think I'm on your page.

• 18:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Check this out, guys.

• 18:13Speaker 05

  Hundred percent.

• 18:13Patrick Bet-David?

  BBC, okay, look at this. Government support to Ukraine, blue is loans, green is grant, gray is guaranteed. Look at US. Only a third of what we've given as a loan, green is grant, okay? Look at EU. They're like, "Yeah, we'll give you a loan, but you better pay it back." EU knows how to negotiate and get the money back. A little bit of grant, a little bit of guarantee. And then you have everybody else. The question becomes, why are taxpayers, why are we just giving it away? Why can't we get the money back? Why can't he go negotiate on behalf of Americans? Why can't Trump go and say, "Here's the things that I want. If you don't give it to us, we're not supporting you anymore"? Why not? And by the way, if Kier is comfortable giving more money to them, go ahead and do it. You guys got money, go give it to them. We don't need to do it.

• 18:55Patrick Bet-David?

  If you feel so compelled, anybody in EU should be more interested in the protection of Ukraine than US. US should be interested in Canada and Mexico. Everybody else, you pay up. You go do it. We understand. We support your decision. But you ought to risk that money with your taxpayers. Not us. So Tom, you're making a very good point with that. Julian, what do you think about this?

• 19:14Speaker 06

  Can I, one more? How do you think EU is gonna get paid back their loan? If, if there's no money in Ukraine? Minerals!

• 19:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, of course.

• 19:22Speaker 06

  The thing that they don't want us to have.

• 19:23Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. Julian?

• 19:25Speaker 05

  I, I actually wanna play devil's advocate and ask a few questions. I'm 100% with Tom. I think there were a million off-ramps. I do think we provoked this, or not us as Americans, but our companies provoked this. Because we've taken their farming lands. We, as you've educated me on, BlackRock and JP Morgan had the $400 billion contract to go in and rebuild.

• 19:48Speaker 06

  Weird.

• 19:49Speaker 05

  So, that said, Ukraine is the loser across the board, as far as I can tell. They have lost all of their resources in, in, from what I can, again, what I'm observing. Why would we not, honestly, I'm not saying continue to fund the war, 100%, no. Nobody wants that, we want this over. But why would we not say, listen, if you do this deal, and you're so convinced that Putin's gonna overstep, should it happen again, you know, we'll step in, we'll help protect you. Why would we not do that? If we are invested in extracting minerals and our, you know, big ag companies like ADM and Monsanto and Cargill are using their land, they're leasing the breadbasket there.

• 20:34Speaker 05

  What would be the reason to not give them that assurance?

• 20:36Patrick Bet-David?

  US. Why would we not, is what you're asking?

• 20:40Speaker 05

  Why would we not provide the assurance that if Russia broke the ceasefire? Because this is what he's saying. He's like, you can't trust him. He's gonna break the ceasefire, he's gonna come in, he's gonna...

• 20:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 20:49Speaker 05

  And Trump is saying, no way, no, you have the assurance here, if we do business with you, that's not gonna happen. And he's going, I just don't feel that confident.

• 20:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 20:56Speaker 05

  I'm, I'm not a Zelensky advocate, I'm just asking you, why would we not say, like, we're sure, but if, if he oversteps and if he breaks the ceasefire, blah, blah, blah, we'll provide support. Not that I wanna be doing that, but if we're taking their minerals, I can kinda see why the request is there.

• 21:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So to me, kinda what we talked about last night is the following. If a company hires a new CEO, okay?

• 21:20Patrick Bet-David?

  John has been running this company as a CEO for the last 10 years. I get hired. The new CEO comes in, they bring new executive team. The first thing the new CEO does is they go through all the contracts that we have to try to see a way to negotiate. So if I'm an insurance CEO and I go to another company and I have experience and I know all these carriers. I'll go to a company, I'll look at all their contracts and I'll say, "Hey, I'm sorry, this carrier only pays you guys 130?" "Yeah." "Only 130%?" "Yes." "And you got so much premium, you're sending 40 million a year. Why are you guys only getting 130?" "I was getting 145 and I was only sending them 20 million a year." "Are you kidding me?" "No." This is ridic- let me call him up right- "Hey Johnny, yes. Is it true that you guys only pay us 130 points and we give you 40 million a year?" "Yes."

• 22:03Patrick Bet-David?

  "You got 24 hours to bump that up to 150 million so I make my money back of the last 6 years for the company or else we're no longer doing business with you, that premium is going somewhere else." That's what the new CEO is doing. Now, the previous CEO, why did he do 130? I don't know. What were the side favors? Was he invited to events? Was he invited to- I don't know all those side deals. I was not in the negotiating room. So to me, it's not just about why wouldn't we back them up? You think Trump wants a world war? You think Trump wants people to go out there? Another World War III happening under his watch? He doesn't want that. He doesn't want any of that stuff.

• 22:35Speaker 05

  It seems Zelensky thinks- again, I'm just playing devil's advocate for the people that I argue with on the other side. And because I'm not an expert in geopolitics. But if I'm Zelensky, I'm gonna want the assurance. If I'm giving away 50% of our minerals, I would ask the same thing.

• 22:50Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I wouldn't do it that way. I've already given you money. Taxpayers have already given you money. What are we getting for reassurance? For what we've given you the last 3 and 1/2, 4 years? What is our reassurance? Not yours. Look, so think about the gated community you live in, okay? If in your gated community, there's a, what do you call it? When every month people get- no, there's a meeting that they have in- Tom, what is that called?

• 23:13Speaker 05

  Homeowners?

• 23:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Homeowner Association meeting. So that I never go to. But let's just say there's this homeowner association that Jennifer goes to, right? And then she gives me an update. So these homeowner association meeting. Imagine we go in there and one of the guys says, "Hey, the security we got is 85 years old." He's letting people in. We had another car that was robbed. I think we gotta hire a new security firm and the guys have to be former military licensed to carry. And we have to pay that to do that currently, we're paying this guy 17 bucks an hour. To do that is going to be $32 an hour. That means all of us, instead of paying $600 a month, it's going to go to $900 a month. And then everybody looks around and says, you know what? I'm with it. Let's do it. Great. Now, why should we all care about that homeowner association? Because we all live in that gated community. Now trip out on this.

• 23:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You ready?

• 24:00Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 24:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's say another gated community in Fort Lauderdale that is 3,000 miles away from where you live. Okay? Comes up to you and says, hey, guys, check this out. Our community is not safe. We're getting robbed. We want you to contribute to our homeowner association to make our gated community safer. And you're sitting there saying, wait a minute, what did you say? Yeah, we want your money to protect our gated community. So what does this mean? Wait a minute. I'm already protecting my gated community. What is our gated community? It's called US, Canada, Mexico. It's called we spend 3.4% of our annual budget. Mexico spends 0.7%. Canada spends 1.1 of their GDP military expenditure. We're already making our gated community safer.

• 24:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do we need to make Ukraine's gated community safer? That's the question. And Trump's asking the right question because if that's the case, EU should be paying more money than everybody else. Not us. We're not on there all the time. We'll contribute a little bit, but number one, more than anybody else with nothing.

• 24:59Speaker 05

  No, 100% not, but I get then this and then I'll drop it. It's just simply because the reason we would make their gated community safer is out of Zelensky's mouth. I didn't take money. I got weapons. Well, who profited off the weapons? Our defense contractors. Who had, who was forced to reform their laws about their farming land and give up leases to our big ag companies? They were. So now our defense contractors are making money. Our big ag contractors are making money. And now we're going to be taking their minerals. And I, I'm not saying that we shouldn't be defending. I'm simply saying if we are stripping them of resources and then you've got BlackRock and JP Morgan going in to rebuild.

• 25:41Speaker 05

  That would be our investment in their gated community. And what happens? Let's just say now Zelensky signs it. And Putin does go in, contrary to what Trump says and what I don't believe will happen, but he does go in and Zelensky's right. Then what actually do we do? Now that we are invested there, would we step up to the plate if Putin decided to push further?

• 26:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so you're assuming 100% of all the money that was given is all military weapons. There's aids, there's humanitarian aid, there's cash, there's different things that was given. What that number of the $113 billion or whatever the number is, $140 billion? We don't know. We want to know that. So the claims of the kind of money, he's making the claims of what they're doing when they're coming through, all of that stuff that people talk about, you know, whether it's true or not, I don't think we'll ever find out. If we do, it's because someone's gonna come out and someone's getting killed. If something happens to Zelensky, that's the part. In regards to Russia, let's, let's talk, if we're talking about the military industrial complex, that these guys want all these contracts to be able to sell more weapons. No problem.

• 26:51Patrick Bet-David?

  We talked about this again last night, the one number no one talks about. What is Putin in the way of? Think about it. What is Putin in the way of? The one thing nobody talks about. Rob, can you Google which country has the most natural resources? Okay? And folks, if you're listening to this, I don't want you to say anything, I want them to guess.

• 27:13Speaker 04

  Shocking.

• 27:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you, don't, don't show it, oh, you showed it already. Can you guess how many people, how much money of natural resources Russia has that Putin is in the way of other companies going in there and having access to this? You know what the number is? You think it's 10 trillion? You think it's 20 trillion, 22 trillion, 23 trillion? Rob, can you pull up what the number is with Russia? $75 trillion is what they have. By the way, can you pull up the ranking of number one to number two to number three to number four to number five? Ranking of countries by natural resources? My natural resources, if there's a leaders voting thing. Weird. Look, look, look, we're at forty-five trillion. They're nearly two X us.

• 27:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to the next one, Rob. Okay, Saudi Arabia's thirty-four, all that oil. Russia's thirty, seventy-five trillion, Canada thirty-three, Brazil twenty-two. Yeah, where is Venezuela? Where's everybody else? You're talking about seventy-five trillion. So he's in the way of somebody wanting to get access to that. Right there. So look at Canada, Iran is twenty-seven. China's twenty-three trillion, Brazil's twenty-two, Australia's twenty, Iraq's sixteen. Venezuela, that's like oil, oil, oil, is sixth of what Russia is. He, these people that are these big behemoth companies like the BlackRocks, the State Trees, the Vanguard's, they're like, hey, man, we want to get access to that. We want to do business there. There's a guy in the way saying you can't. They have to get rid of that guy. This was same case with Iran.

• 28:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Shah was in the way. They gotta get rid of that guy. They gotta find, they gotta get rid of this guy. So Putin's not playing ball. I'm not sitting here telling you he's an angel and all this other stuff. I do want to play one clip to get your reaction on it.

• 28:55Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 28:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You've done work with Bill and Hillary Clinton and you had a very good experience with them.

• 28:59Speaker 05

  I did.

• 29:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Just so you know.

• 29:01Speaker 05

  I, I, I, I, listen, I've changed teams, but, but in all transparency, I, I, I worked with the administration on health matters.

• 29:08Patrick Bet-David?

  How were they to you?

• 29:09Speaker 05

  They were, they were very lovely to me. Bill is extraordinarily charismatic, though.

• 29:13Patrick Bet-David?

  For sure.

• 29:14Speaker 05

  I mean, he, he's got it down to a science. This guy will remember a story about your sick chihuahua ten years later. He's like, how's Baxter? How's your little dog? And you're just like, wow. I, I mean.

• 29:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so would you say he's one of the best politicians?

• 29:29Speaker 05

  Oh, of course.

• 29:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Would you put him ahead of Obama?

• 29:31Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 29:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I would as well, okay?

• 29:34Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 29:35Patrick Bet-David?

  This is when he was asked about Putin in 2013. Look at his answer. Go ahead, Rob.

• 29:40Speaker 04

  Look, Mr. Putin is got, he got all, he's very smart. But you know him better than most people. What was he like behind closed doors away from, you know, the sort of the public utterances? Smart and Remarkably, we had a really good blunt relationship. How blunt? Brutally blunt. Ever like in a fisty cut? No, but I think, you know, I think the right strategy most of the time is, but it's frustrating to people in your line of work, you should be brutally honest with people in private. And then if you want them to help you, try to avoid embarrassing them in public. Right.

• 30:22Speaker 04

  Now, sometimes they do things which make it impossible for you to keep quiet. But by and large, I found all the people I dealt with appreciated it if I told them the truth. How I honestly felt and what our interests were and what our objectives were. And they also appreciated it when I didn't kick them around in public for as long as I couldn't kick them around. So I, you know, that's my experience. Did Putin ever renege on a personal agreement he made to you? He did not. So behind closed doors, he could be trusted? He kept his word in all the deals we made.

• 30:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Bingo. So that's Bill Clinton.

• 31:02Patrick Bet-David?

  So do you trust Bill Clinton is telling the truth? Do you think he's telling a lie? You know what you said last night that was so interesting about you? This is why I love you so much. You said such a unique thing last night. We're sitting there, it's very obvious you're not a Tate fan.

• 31:16Speaker 05

  No.

• 31:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. I won't tell the whole context of the conversation because it's private, what we were talking about.

• 31:21Speaker 05

  I don't mind at all.

• 31:21Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, but when I was talking about different individuals and we talked about the different individuals and I said, which one of these names do you think would be most honest with you? Okay, I don't think it's necessary for me to give the other names, but you said, even though I don't agree with him and I can't stand him, I think he would tell me the truth, even though I would disagree with him. Right? You said that yesterday.

• 31:42Speaker 05

  Yes, I did.

• 31:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 31:43Speaker 05

  Hundred percent.

• 31:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So this doesn't mean they're boys. This doesn't mean they're kicking it, going to Casa di Angelo tonight. This doesn't mean they're going to go have sushi and talk, you know, hockey, Russia and stuff like that. No, he's just telling you, I'm going against the boss that keeps his word. Okay, and maybe that's why Trump and Putin get along and Trump and Zelensky don't get along. Maybe that's because Zelensky's playing games and Putin... Putin is just kinda like this is why I'm, what do you wanna do? So to me, I don't know, I'm not in it. I don't talk to any of these guys. I don't have a relationship with any of these guys. I'm just a business guy that's been in weird rooms at a much, much, much smaller scale that you watch people playing games. And then you have to position everybody and say, what is that guy trying to do? What does he want from this deal? How is this guy benefiting? What does he fear if this deal gets done? Those are the things I pay attention to. And in this scenario,

• 32:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I think Putin's in a way of seventy-five trillion dollars and the money people are like, you guys think four hundred billion is money in Ukraine to rebuild that place? Shit. This other country's got seventy-five trillion. How the hell do we get that kinda money, access to that? I think that's what people want, that they don't have access to right now.

• 32:42Speaker 06

  And they're, and they're willing to do that to, and start World War III that could potentially kill all of us. But Pat, you met, you guys mentioned two thousand fourteen. I don't know if you guys remember, Joe Biden CIA Director, the past one, his name is William J. Burns. In two thousand and eight, he was a US Ambassador to Russia. Uh, he expressed his concerns regarding Ukraine's potential NATO membership. Uh, and a confidential cable called Nyet means yet, Russia's NATO enlargement readiness. He wrote, Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all red lines for Russia elite, not just Putin. He said, this could potentially split the country in two, okay? And what, what people don't, uh, like, I don't get what people, it's not computing. You're, you're trying to put NATO, push missiles and bases closer to Russia.

• 33:25Speaker 06

  If somebody right now, Jillian, was like, you know what China was like?

• 33:28Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 33:29Speaker 06

  We're coming into Mexico.

• 33:30Speaker 05

  We would never allow it.

• 33:30Speaker 06

  We're gonna build a couple of bases.

• 33:32Speaker 05

  We would never allow it.

• 33:32Speaker 06

  We would, hold on, we would bomb and fight everybody, okay? Well, it was called the Cuban Missile Crisis. Yeah, and thank you, which almost caused war, but what, what drives me crazy. Yeah, we, we kinda went I R L on that one. Yeah, we did. But what, what drives me crazy is this, this blind liberal, it is a liberal support with the, I stand with Ukraine, okay? Which they can't even point it out on a map, okay? And Ukraine doesn't even align with our values. For instance, first off, gay marriage is illegal in Ukraine. So all these people that have the pride flag with the Ukrainian flag, you're an idiot. It's like the gays for Gaza. Go to Gaza, go to Gaza. It's lovely there. Go check it out, gays. They don't support what they, what they, uh, what they fight for. And the number, the two thing, as, as two veterans, Jillian, what they're doing right now, men in Russia, I showed a, a little clip of Rob. Can you pu- pull this up?

• 34:17Speaker 06

  And I wanted the audio of the guy screaming. They are running. up to grown men, young guys, fathers, sons, your uncles and grabbing them, it's called conscription, they're grabbing them, throwing them in a van and putting them in the front lines to die. Okay, what happened to my body, my choice, body autonomy. Oh, that doesn't exist there, guy. Yeah, it doesn't mean shit. These guys, like, is there audio on this? We showed this. Yes. Can you imagine? Yeah, but listen to the audio, the guy screaming. He's walking his dog. And then this is the Ukrainian officials or military, you're, look at it, he's running. He knows. And he's gone. Front lines and he's gone. And Rob, you can jump a little bit forward, Robbie. The dog is going. You think that guy wants to fight? Yeah, look at this. Grabbing him, screaming, doesn't want to go. Okay, Rob, you could do that.

• 35:02Speaker 06

  So it's just, it drives me crazy of all this support, all of our tax dollars, when at the end of the day, you don't even know what the hell, I stand with Ukraine. When I see that sign, I stand with Ukraine. It should say, I bend over for Ukraine. I'm tired of it, all the money, all the, and you nailed it. It's follow the money. And Ukraine, remember Russia, it's like Putin, Putin price hike, Putin this, he's the best. Give me, give me a break. That whole, that sales pitch isn't, it's not selling anymore to me.

• 35:26Speaker 05

  I, I couldn't agree with you more. I, I'm just saying if we're trying to bring an end, that, that's all. And that we're, I, I feel like Ukraine has been raped, pillaged and plundered and Zelensky's just a puppet. And we obviously installed him through the National Endowment for Democracy and funded that coup that Tom mentioned in 2014, or at least it sure seems that way. And this has all been driven by money, just like you say, follow the money.

• 35:52Speaker 05

  I just feel like we got, or not we, I don't want to say we, because it's not us in the room. It's not Americans, but whoever wanted this got what they wanted. Whoever provoked this, don't move NATO eastward. We added 14 countries, put it on Putin's border. Like, obviously, you know, yeah, it means, yeah, you knew what you were doing, you got what you wanted. And that's the only part where I'm like, well, okay, you got the farmland, you got the minerals, you got the money for the bombs, you got the contract to rebuild, you can grab all of their resources even further. And 35X it. I just wonder why he wouldn't be like, sure, sure, sure, if he comes in, we'll, we'll step in. But I, I hear everything you're saying, and I know Americans don't want that. I'm not saying continue funding it. But

• 36:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna come to you, Rob. Can you do me a favor? Pull up a poll from Guardian, that Thomas Sowell's Twitter account, whoever runs that account. We've spoken multiple times. Great job running that account, Rob. It's, it's in the notes section that I have. If you, yeah, okay, it's fine. No, no, go, go where you're going. It's fine. Go right there. Go lower, lower, lower, lower. Some of these guys tweet so often that you, you know, like so low till you find it. So then go, go to the notes section, Rob, that I have. Go to the notes section. If you go there, you'll see a poll. This is a poll asking how people, okay, in EU, most Europeans, how they feel about Ukraine. And it's such an interesting thing because it's two separate polls. Right there, okay. Zoom in. So zoom in first to read the top.

• 37:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Most Europeans feel Ukraine is not getting enough Western support. Okay, but watch before you go to the next one. Are the current measures against Russia and aid given to Ukraine enough to prevent a Russian victory? Red is not enough. Light gray is don't know. Blue is enough, more than enough. Look at that. 66% say not enough. Denmark, Sweden, Spain. Lowest one is France, 52%, not enough. The middle one, gray is like, I don't know. And then the blue is, yeah, it's more than enough. 12, 16, 13, 11, 20, 15, 18%. Now they changed the question. This is the Guardian, and Guardian is supportive of Ukraine. Go a little bit lower and see what the next question is. However, only a minority think their country should increase the support. No shit, Sherlock.

• 38:06Patrick Bet-David?

  How should your country manage support giving to Ukraine? Increase it, maintain it, don't know, reduce it. Now look at it, increase, only 29%. Sweden. Look at Denmark. Go to the top, Denmark was number one at what, 60 something percent? It's not enough.

• 38:20Speaker 05

  What begets this entitlement, Pat?

• 38:21Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not, and then go lower, and then they're like, no.

• 38:24Speaker 05

  What begets this? And it's like they work half the work week that we do. They've got, like, you know, their health care is covered, and it's all because we pay for the majority of the defense. What is this entitlement that I, I'm, I am baffled by?

• 38:38Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, wouldn't you be like excited if a dumb American negotiator agrees to pay more?

• 38:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Towards a country that's a border to you than you, how awesome of a negotiator. You gotta give credit to EU for negotiation they did with Biden's administration. You're not even border to this country, but you came more than we do. Send the money, but we won't. Look at these numbers. It's embarrassing. So socialism is anytime people want to give your money, but they just don't want it to be their money. That's what they have a problem with, Tom.

• 39:09Speaker 06

  No, that's exactly, that's exactly right. What's very interesting here. How many of you think your sisters should go to college and we should, and, and, and that the funds should be there? All of our three brothers and sisters raised their hands, right? Yes. Okay. So who wants to give up their iPad and their, uh, summer sports? So that we can put the money for your sisters. Everybody runs out of the kitchen. Yeah.

• 39:33Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the advantage.

• 39:34Speaker 06

  That's exactly just.

• 39:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam. Well, a lot of these countries are already socialist to begin with, so they don't mind being taxed at 50%. What's 51%? Cause it's already just gonna lead to basically. Well, no, they said no. But most countries are already used to being taxed. I know. What I'm saying is when it comes down to should we increase it, they're saying no. Finally. So they're basically, it's like when you get pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed. At some point you're gonna be like, all right, enough's enough. Yeah. But you asked an interesting question earlier about personalities. You know, people, you talk about 2014, what happened? Nobody gives a shit about the Donbass region. I get it, people there. They talk about this, but what, what happened in.

• 40:08Speaker 06

  The Russians that were there getting, getting shelled seemed to care.

• 40:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Exactly. But the world doesn't really care about that. What happened in 2019 is really what we should remember. Cause in 2019 is when Zelensky got elected, right? And then shortly after that, if you remember this, Trump had a perfect call with him. And we learned the term quid pro quo. Remember that? You know, these buzzword terms that get thrown in the world and then never heard from again, like Kofi Feet and whatever happened with that. So quid pro quo, quid pro quo. He's saying, uh, Rudy Giuliani was apparently pressuring Zelensky to investigate Hunter Biden. Do you remember all this stuff? Do you remember all this stuff?

• 40:45Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 40:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So he had a perfect call. He was basically saying, listen, we're gonna give you military assistance, but Zelensky, I'm gonna need you to do a little something, something for daddy Trump. And then they paraded Zelensky out to the Oval Office and he's like, what'd you think about the call reporter? He's like, yes, I did not get pleasure, like in front of Trump. Sort of very like concessionary towards Trump. Boom, what happens? Trump gets impeached for a second time for a call with Zelensky. So five years later, when Trump becomes the president, you don't think he remembers maybe? Yeah. Aren't you that mother sucker that got me impeached? Yeah. Little homie. Waiting for it. And then he gets out of the car and he's like, oh, look at the little guy.

• 41:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I see you dressed up real nice for me, buddy. Good point. Okay, so there's a personal relationship there. So it comes down to respect. Hundred percent. So, yeah, we're on Team Ukraine, right? We're on the team NATO. You mean America? America, from a policy perspective. From a policy perspective, right? It's not like we're having Putin in the Oval Office. But from a personality perspective, Trump doesn't respect Zelensky. What was the whole video of him shaking his whole thing?

• 41:59Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh.

• 42:00Patrick Bet-David?

  We're also, you've seen this, this is real hot.

• 42:02Speaker 05

  It's ridiculous.

• 42:04Patrick Bet-David?

  We're not friends with Russia at this point. Trump, I think, wants to have a warmer relationship. Get this point. He at least respects Putin. Yes, he's a thug. Yes, he's a KGB agent, there's your boy. Yes, he's a killer. Yes, if you say something wrong, you'll thrown out, you'll get thrown out of a window. But Trump, in a weird way, at least respects Putin, has no respect for Zelensky.

• 42:26Speaker 04

  Got your question? Could you?

• 42:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, look at this guy right here.

• 42:29Speaker 04

  You made a great point. Why wouldn't Putin, like if they're communicating and Trump respects everybody, why wouldn't he come to the White House? Would you mind it? I wouldn't mind Putin coming to have a conversation.

• 42:40Patrick Bet-David?

  He's gonna send us, uh, Sergey Lavrov.

• 42:42Speaker 04

  I understand that, but what I'm saying is if that Madonna chess-wearing freaking freak that's probably on cocaine could come there and disrespect the shit out of us, Vladimir Putin's a whole different beast, bro. That guy.

• 42:55Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you mean? You're saying why isn't he coming?

• 42:56Speaker 04

  Why wouldn't he ever come?

• 42:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me, let me, let me show this clip. That's a good question. Can I just say one thing? Just think about it for one second. The people. Ukraine, you don't think they've seen these videos?

• 43:05Speaker 04

  Thousand times.

• 43:05Patrick Bet-David?

  They looked at him and they go, yeah, I'll vote for that guy. So what's going on with those people?

• 43:10Speaker 05

  Did they really though? Like, I know he was elected. But I mean, I don't know. I tend to think he was influenced by us.

• 43:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, for sure.

• 43:19Speaker 05

  If I could say one thing about that Trump Zelensky, oh my god.

• 43:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Jelly, what do you think about that move? Yeah. He's got my vote.

• 43:27Speaker 05

  I actually thought Trump, for the vast majority of that meeting, was respectful.

• 43:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 43:33Speaker 05

  I thought he was, I watched the whole thing. And for the vast majority, I thought he held it together. You know, there was an arm tap, he was patient. And then, and he called JD JD, not Mr. Vice President. Like, it was building. And then Trump lost his shit. But I, it was...

• 43:56Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't have the cards.

• 43:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, but I thought he hung on longer than I expected.

• 44:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, I agree. The thing is, Trump actually gave him respect. You show up like that dress, that's an insult. By the way, you know what, we just talked about 75 trillion with Russia? Here's what Putin said two days ago. Rob, if you can play that clip. Putin's like, "Oh, really? You guys want to do a mineral deal with Ukraine? Let me tell you what minerals we got here. Go ahead, Rob."

• 44:22Speaker 04

  We, by the way, are ready to propose to our American partners, when our partners have very administrative and bureaucratic structures and companies. If they had interested in joint work. We are without question, in order to have more resources of the same kind than Ukraine. Russia is one of the leaders in the security sector.

• 44:55Patrick Bet-David?

  He knows the leverage he has. Of course. Hey, just so you know, guys. You're talking to, come here, we got everything to offer you. Anyways, let's go to the next story here. Next story. Next story I want to get to is working from home. And we have to play this clip of Jamie Dimon on how he reacts when this came up. And the way I'm going to go into this, Rob, I'm going to tell the story of Google, what just happened with Sergey Brin and what they're doing at Google, talking about the fact that... Sergey Brin tells Google employees that 60 hours a week is the sweet spot for productivity. Some beg to differ, okay? Google co-founder urged employees working on Gemini to target about 60 hours a week as the

• 45:39Patrick Bet-David?

  sweet spot of productivity, writing in a memo. Competition has accelerated immensely and the final race to AGI is afoot, referring to AI and suggesting they be in the office at least every weekday, though he noted some folks put on a lot more but can burn out or lose creativity. Workplace experts challenge Brin's view with John Turgolakis, a University of Toronto management professor, of course, a professor is going to have his opinion, who doesn't work, but he's telling others how to work, tells Business Insider, "We see people taking longer to do the same amount of work than they would when they were fresher due to errors and motivation drops and da, da, da, da, da." And then Siova Jabot favors burstable bandwidth over fixed long hours.

• 46:22Patrick Bet-David?

  You work a bit harder on these days, but you have to be able to rest and recharge, which is a good point, but 60 hours, right? Then there's Jamie Dimon and a leaked recording where he loses his shit is what a lot of people are saying. I love it. Okay? And here's what he had to say. Go for it, Rob.

• 46:38Speaker 02

  A lot of you were on the fucking Zoom and you were doing the following, okay? You know, looking at your mail, sending texts to each other about what an asshole the other person is, okay? Not paying attention, not reading your stuff, you know? And if you don't think that slows down efficiency, creativity creates rudeness and stuff, it does, okay? And when I found out that people are doing that, you don't do that at my goddamn meetings. You're going to meet with me, you got my attention, you got my focus, I don't bring my goddamn phone, I'm not sending texts to people, okay? It simply doesn't work and it doesn't work for creativity, it slows down decision making and don't give me the shit that Work From Home Friday works. I call a lot of people on Friday, they're not a goddamn person to get a hold of. But here are the problems, okay?

• 47:23Speaker 02

  And they are substantial, okay? Which is the young generation is being damaged by this. That may, they may or may not be in your particular staff, but they are being left behind. They're being left behind socially. Ideas, meeting people. In fact, my guess is most of you live in communities a hell of a lot less diverse than this room. Every area should be looking to be 10% more efficient. If I was ready to depart 100 people, I guarantee you, if I wanted to, I could run it with 90 and be more efficient. I guarantee you, I could do it, I could do it in my sleep. And the notion, these bureaucracies, I need more people, I can't get it done. No, because you're filling out requests that don't need to be done. Your people are going to meetings they don't need to go to.

• 48:05Speaker 02

  Someone told me to approve something as wealth management, that they had to go to 14 committees. I am dying to get the name of the 14 committees, and I feel like firing 14 chairman of committees. I can't stand it anymore. Now, you have a choice. You don't have to work at JP Morgan. So, the people of you who don't want to work at the company, that's fine with me. I'm not, I'm not mad at you. Don't be mad at me. It's a free country. You can walk on your feet. You know, but this company is going to set our own standards and do it our own way. And, and I've had it with this kind of stuff. And, you know, I, I come in, you know, I've been working seven days a goddamn week since COVID, and I come in and I, where's everybody else? But here and there, and the Zooms, and the Zoomers don't show up, and people said they need guests up.

• 48:49Speaker 02

  So, that's not how you run a great company. We didn't build this great company by doing that. By doing the same semi-disease shit that everybody else does.

• 48:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, your thoughts?

• 49:01Speaker 06

  Well, first of all, I love what he's saying. And let's break into some of the major parts. He talks about individual development. Uh, Tim Armstrong of Verizon's Oath, which was Verizon Media. Man took it in the chops when he came out and he said, I'm already seeing, and we were only six months into COVID, I'm already seeing people working from home that are not getting the ability to develop, that want to raise, that they want to be promoted to manager, and they haven't been around people, and they haven't been developing. So, number one is development, and he's absolutely right. The, the overall umbrella, though, these are the standards that make this company great, and I am leading this company, and this is the way I'm going to do it. And so, he's not out there to say,

• 49:44Speaker 06

  I'm gonna vote for the average. He called it a disease. He said, I'm not here to vote for average. These are the standards that make JP Morgan great. If you want to work for JP Morgan, work for me and here's my, here's what I think about it. And you get development out of it, but also I want to eliminate focus and distraction. People do it to me. You don't do that at my meetings. When I'm at my meetings, I set my phone aside. You have my focus, you have my attention. And so he's absolutely correct as far as I'm concerned. If other people want to do it differently, they can do it differently. And by the way, what was Sergey Brin talking about? Competition. He said, competition AI is, is heating up. It is not a given that our Gemini project is going to be successful.

• 50:27Speaker 06

  And by the way, I think 60 hours a week is about what we need to do here. Because this is a competitive thing and, and we could, we could lose a lead here. That's what Sergey Brin is talking about. But what are they both talking about? We're leading these companies. And if you want to work here, this is the way it's going to be. And why do people not respect that?

• 50:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Julian.

• 50:47Speaker 05

  I think it's a generational thing. I, you know, as a Gen Xer, I remember when Katzenberg said, if you don't come in on Saturday, don't even bother coming in on Sunday. And that was the culture. You know, Elon Musk said, here, you know, you bitch about burning the midnight oil. And in China, they're burning the 3am oil. And we're losing AI. I mean, look what DeepSeek just did. So for me, as a Gen Xer, that is music to my ears. But try to tell that to a kid who's Gen Z. And you know what's fascinating is that your entire team here is filled with young, aggressive, hungry kids.

• 51:25Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 51:25Speaker 05

  And I cannot figure out.

• 51:28Speaker 06

  Thank you. Thank you so much.

• 51:30Speaker 05

  And I can't figure out what you've done to condition them to work like they're Gen X. Because I, I, you know, I meet with these kids. I will not take an executive assistant because every time I sit down with one of them, they're like, well, well, what's the, well, what's the vacation time? And, and what's the pay? And what are my benefits? Not, hey, I researched your company. I see that you do X, Y, and Z. I think I can contribute this to the table based on my background and that. Like you don't have that anymore. When I was a kid, you showed up first and you left last. And that's how you got ahead. So I, you know, I love it, but is that realistic for America and for our younger generation? I don't know.

• 52:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 52:13Speaker 06

  You ever heard Jamie Dimon talk like that? I've never seen Jamie Dimon in public.

• 52:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, it was leaked, I mean, so.

• 52:17Speaker 06

  Well, that's my point.

• 52:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I love it.

• 52:18Speaker 06

  You know what's going on behind closed doors.

• 52:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 52:21Speaker 06

  He's a frickin badass.

• 52:22Patrick Bet-David?

  I love him.

• 52:23Speaker 06

  I mean, he dropped, he dropped, he dropped the G damn word probably seven times. Other than that, wow. I mean, you can understand, understand what type of leader he is, but I think it's so interesting that in some capacities, you have, like, let's just use two archetypes. You have the Jamie Dimon of the world, who's basically saying, work your ass off. I'm in here seven days a week. Go, go, go. Sergey Brin is a billionaire, top 10, he's a founder of Google, right?

• 52:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 52:48Speaker 06

  Top 10 richest billionaire in the world. And then you have the Bernie Sanders crew, who's like, four day work weeks, 30 hour work weeks, divergent pathways, the siesta Spain lifestyle.

• 52:59Speaker 05

  Everything's covered.

• 52:59Speaker 06

  So.

• 53:00Speaker 05

  Your college are gonna pay for that, we're gonna pay for everything.

• 53:03Speaker 06

  Take your pick.

• 53:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, well, to me, it's almost as if, you know, and because a majority of this with the Zoomers and stuff he's talking about, is COVID. COVID was such an impact that people started working from home, and guess what? Comfortable. The drifters, they're hanging out, they're home, they're not doing, trust me, I know a shitload of them, and they're still doing it. So they get comfortable, just like what you're seeing with Doge, with all these federal employees. They don't wanna go back, they're like, wait a minute, you're calling me out on my bullshit? How dare you? How dare you point out what the hell I'm doing wrong? And then COVID was one of those main ones that really got everybody just to chill out and like, I'm, what? I could still do it at home.

• 53:37Speaker 05

  And the quiet quitting.

• 53:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yeah, I love that.

• 53:39Speaker 05

  That's when they don't answer the phone. It's like the quiet quitting, they just literally.

• 53:44Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you know what?

• 53:45Speaker 05

  Fake it and continue to make it. I, I don't know how, it's fascinating.

• 53:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Last time when we got in the car, after we had dinner, what did I say about Giancarlo and, and, and? Absolutely amazing things, and Giancarlo was like one of the biggest surprises ever. Right? When we got in the car, we're like, what a great dinner. Amazing. It's like, you know what it was? It didn't take long to realize there's a connection. It's not an act, nobody was acting, but let me tell you, if we had five other people at the table, they would have been so annoyed by us. Hundred, I think so too. There could have been people at the table that would have been so annoyed by us, because like attracts like. So when you're talking about the Gen Z's that are here and the guys that are young that are working.

• 54:24Speaker 05

  Great.

• 54:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I didn't make them that way.

• 54:25Speaker 05

  Great kids, unbelievable.

• 54:26Patrick Bet-David?

  They found us, meaning they're like that, and they found a home here.

• 54:30Speaker 05

  I see.

• 54:30Patrick Bet-David?

  They came here and then they realized what the culture is like, what I'm doing with their, like, shit, this isn't just an act. Pat really talks and then they do it. Few things I wrote down here with this. When I had my guys and I'm building an insurance company and I would hear guys use their faith and their family as an excuse to not work hard. It was so funny to me. Wow, listen, you know, you care more about money and success than I do. What's important to me is my kids. I'm like, oh, really? Yeah. Oh, wow, what a noble guy you are. Oh, you are so amazing. You care more about your kids than I do. Yeah, that's fantastic. So your kids, you think you want your kids to do what you tell them to do?

• 55:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Or you think they're going to do what you're doing? There's more caught than taught in parenting. There's more caught than taught in parenting. Your kids are gonna watch you stay home and be a daddy, being at home at the kids all the time. When they age, they're gonna do the same thing. They're gonna be home. My kids come here, they see how they're working, they see what the energy is like, they see competition, they wanna be the same way as well. That's the different energy that you're giving them. Family, so many people use a family, well, it's because of this, it's because of that, I have wanna be around my, you know, you're, if you actually put a camera on their house, what they were doing, they're watching TV. They're watching YouTube videos. They're watching, it's not quality time, that's not called quality time. You're wasting it, right? But the other part that's very interesting with this, and I love what Jamie said, I absolutely love.

• 55:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Jamie had the luxury of being the executive assistant of Sandy Wow at American Express. Let me say this one more time. Sandy Wow, the former CEO of Citigroup, when he was at American Express as an executive, Jamie was his assistant. He was his EA. Let me say this again. Jamie Dimon was the EA to Sandy Wow. Sandy Wow is one of the biggest deal makers of all time. The guy was a badass mother, you know what? He was a beast. And then the issue happened when He gave Jamie a promotion and Jamie started doing really well. Jamie was able to shadow somebody that was a killer. He learned from somebody, he watched someone, he's like, "Oh my god." So this is what it takes to compete at the highest?

• 56:43Patrick Bet-David?

  You are part of the luckiest community if you ever work under somebody where you get a chance to see what it really looks like to compete at the highest level. You're so lucky if you're able to witness that. Jamie did took advantage of it, now they see you're the biggest bank in the world. And I'll tell you the last thing, we can go to the next story. You know what's one of the scariest things about life? Here's one of the scariest things about life. Last night we're having dinner, okay? And dessert shows up. And the dessert at this place is the best. Mikel takes care of us. Mikel brought this pistachio ice cream with a 25-year-aged balsamic glaze that he put on top of the ice cream and the strawberry. Ridiculous. And you're eating it, the level of euphoria, it just doesn't, how happy you are, right?

• 57:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And everybody's trying different things, and I'm ordering the gnocchi, the almettriciano style, and all this other stuff that they bring. And then, sugar comes. And you know what Julian said? "Yeah, I just don't do that." "What do you mean? I just don't do sugar. I made a decision a long time ago, I don't do sugar." She didn't even say, "I don't do dessert." She says, "I don't do sugar." What do you mean, "You don't do sugar"? Who talks like that, right? That's a standard. But the main point is the following. In life, we all have a price to pay. You either pay it now, or you're gonna pay it later. So to the Gen Z ears that are bitching about Jamie Dimon and a boss they're working at that's driving the hell out of them, let me give you two prices. You could not pay the price now.

• 58:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And you could just kinda chill and hang out and relax now in your twenties and your thirties and your forties. You will pay a massive price in your seventies and your eighties and your sixties. And that massive price, you know what that price is? Here's what the massive price is, let me paint a picture to you and see if you like this or not. You're 62 years old. You got three kids. You have six grandkids. Those kids of yours for Christmas have a choice between coming to you to spend Christmas and Thanksgiving with you, or the in-laws of the family that they married, because those guys made better decisions, they're in a better place to be able to take care of the kids in a better way, and you didn't, you were smoking weed, kicking back, relaxing, chilling out in your twenties, thirties, forties. You're gonna sit there in your sixties and seventies in bed and say, "How come our kids are not with us? I wish they were with us, babe."

• 58:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Or you'll be by yourself saying, "Man, I wish they was with us." That's a painful price. The price of working sixty to eighty hours a weekend in your twenties and thirties? Give me a flipping break. Are you kidding me? That's the price you're bitching about? Don't worry, wait till that age is in their sixties, then call me back. Menectomy by that time. And tell me how you feel about the price that you were not willing to pay. That price on the back end should scare the crap out of everybody. Should scare the crap out of everybody. When it comes on to alcohol, drugs, health, relationship, finances, all of that stuff, career. You can party all you want, you can chill all you want, like this. Benny, in fifteen years, you and I are sixty-one years old. Oh my god. Okay, let me tell you. That's the case, buddy.

• 59:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my god. In fifteen years, that's coming. So, let's go to the next story. Bill Maher, a friend of yours. Bill Maher endorses Trump-like Democrat to run for president. When I first read this story, I'm like, "Who's he talking about?" Watch who he's talking about. Go for it, Rob.

• 59:55Speaker 06

  The Democrats need to find their Trump. Not the authoritarian part, but the part where a politician bonds with everyday Americans because he talks like them. And the... The good news for Democrats is they have that guy, and his name is John Fetterman.

• 1:00:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, god. Were you expecting the same thing? Not at all. He doesn't know what to do.

• 1:00:24Speaker 06

  In a ball, Fetterman went to Mar-a-Lago, where Trump assumed... He was one of the guys from January 6.

• 1:00:32Patrick Bet-David?

  That's actually good. That's actually good.

• 1:00:36Patrick Bet-David?

  That's your guy.

• 1:00:39Speaker 06

  And afterwards, Trump said, "He's not liberal or conservative. He's just a common sense person, which is beautiful." And that's the kind of gay adjacent respect Trump usually reserves for Putin.

• 1:00:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Putin.

• 1:00:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Ramen.

• 1:00:57Speaker 06

  Trump and Fetterman actually have a lot in common. They're both plain spoken, anti-elitist, who come from money, married exotic immigrant ladies, went to Ivy League schools, and aren't afraid to take on their own party. And when the wind catches Trump's hair just right, they're both six foot eight.

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• 1:02:20Speaker 06

  Look, here's the thing. Voters aren't really savvy about the issues, but they...

• 1:02:24Speaker 02

  I do have it made it clear what is important to them. Authenticity, balls, and charisma. Trump has that package, and so does Fetterman. He's only been a senator two years, and he is already more famous than most of his colleagues. Quick, I dare you to name this sad-looking lady from Washington State who's been in the Senate for 30 years. You can't teach charisma or balls. Fetterman is that rare Democrat who's not afraid to put the woke nonsense peddlers in his own party in their place, saying things like, "Wanting a secure border and realizing that it was out of control, that doesn't mean you're a xenophobe or a racist." He's been unequivocally pro-Israeli.

• 1:03:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Julian, thoughts? Do you agree with him?

• 1:03:07Speaker 05

  Do you agree with him on Fetterman? Hold on, hold on, hold on. He's making valid points.

• 1:03:11Patrick Bet-David?

  He does, yeah.

• 1:03:12Speaker 05

  With that said, there is something vastly different between Fetterman and Trump. Trump is a businessman. He is an exceptionally successful businessman. And I'm not an economist, I am not an expert in geopolitics, but as I have sought to understand some of the things he's doing with our economy and our relationships around the world, I've come to appreciate... Listen, he does a lot of things I don't like, but I've come to appreciate that in many ways he's brilliant. And it's from talking to people like you, learning what's behind what he's doing. That's not Fetterman.

• 1:03:52Speaker 05

  So while Fetterman is down to earth and he's not afraid to call bullshit on his own party, and they're definitely going to need that, there's no question. Fetterman is not Trump, and I don't see him... When you were talking to me last night, explaining how Taiwan is bringing their chips to America and what a big deal that is, and why Trump is doing X, Y, Z, and then showing me how...

• 1:04:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom was breaking down the fact that it's a good deal.

• 1:04:19Speaker 05

  You think Fetterman's gonna be capable of that? I don't think so.

• 1:04:21Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think so.

• 1:04:22Speaker 05

  I don't think so.

• 1:04:22Patrick Bet-David?

  But maybe, maybe what if he does this? Would it be open to you if he... Uh, Rob, if you can pull that up. If he does this, would you think he would have a shot? Yeah. Like, would that change things for you? Now I vote for it. Would that be like, you know what? I'm okay with it if this happens.

• 1:04:35Speaker 05

  Only if the beard goes orange, too.

• 1:04:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Tom, your thoughts on this story with Fetterman?

• 1:04:39Speaker 06

  Well, look, Fetterman, I have a modicum of respect for John Fetterman because John Fetterman appears to be very, speaking very plainly. But when the second coming of Peter Boyle and, and the monster from Young Frankenstein is the best that you can do, sitting on the ritz, if you, everybody knows what I'm talking about.

• 1:05:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody knows.

• 1:05:03Speaker 06

  It's, it's kind of shocking to me that, you know, Bill Maher goes down the entire roll call and there's only one guy that he can come out to. And he's talking not about positions and business and negotiation. He's talking about balls, the ability to speak plainly and connect to a populace. So it shows even with, with, with Bill Maher, who's not a dumb guy. And I've seen a real metamorphosis in his positions that I have a lot of respect for. But, you know, Fetterman, I think it's good that there's somebody in the Democrat Party that, that's, that's taking a moderate position and stepping out like this. I think it's a good thing.

• 1:05:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam's thoughts?

• 1:05:45Speaker 06

  Is he their new Messiah? No.

• 1:05:47Speaker 05

  I don't think so.

• 1:05:47Speaker 06

  I think this is just further proof that the Democratic Party has completely lost their way. When this guy is the new face of the Democratic Party potentially, it's like, what do you guys even stand for at this point? I think it's pretty interesting that because he wears a hoodie, he's down to earth and he's the common man. He went to Harvard. He's an elitist. I mean, like, you don't go to Harvard as just some random schmo. So, do you remember when Boris Johnson, who was the UK Prime Minister, who was like a very smart, eccentric, smart, like elitist guy? What he would do, I don't know if you want to pull up a picture of him, Rob, he would be in a meeting, let's say we're in a meeting with Pat, and I'm like, all right, Pat, cool, great, everything's good, all

• 1:06:29Speaker 06

  right, I'm gonna go speak to the public. He'd ruffle up his hair and get out there and do a little Chris Farley thing, you know? Billy's here, Bobby's here. Get out there and look like the common man. But he wasn't. John Fetterman is not the common man. He's a 6'8" alien-looking, moderate-looking dude who wears a hoodie. It's almost like Sam Bakman-Fried where he'd wear shorts on stage. You're a frickin' senator, bro. You're gonna show up to the inauguration in a hoodie? Have a little modicum of respect. Secondly, look at his policies. He's Medicare for All. He's a pro-union. This is how you show up. In winter. To the inauguration. Come on, bro. It's a joke. It's a joke. He's a joke. So this is what the Democratic Party is?

• 1:07:14Speaker 06

  So either a gay, black, Asian, half midget lesbian, or you're this guy? I don't get it. What are you?

• 1:07:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie, stop.

• 1:07:22Speaker 04

  First of all.

• 1:07:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Forgive Adam, but go ahead, Vinnie.

• 1:07:26Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:07:27Speaker 04

  Anything that Bill Maher says at this point about politics, you, obviously you could tell the Trump derangement syndrome. It's still any, he can't give no, it's just that, that one lane thinking. And mind you.

• 1:07:37Speaker 06

  No, I don't totally disagree. I don't know where you're going with this. I think Bill Maher is actually doing great these days.

• 1:07:42Speaker 04

  In what sense?

• 1:07:42Speaker 06

  I think he's in very, very common sense.

• 1:07:45Speaker 04

  But the.

• 1:07:46Speaker 06

  I think he's being very straightforward. I think he's calling out the woke left. And he's obviously no fan of certain people on the right.

• 1:07:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's calling.

• 1:07:53Speaker 06

  But he's been very complimentary of people on the right these days.

• 1:07:56Speaker 04

  But still has, my point, Trump derangement syndrome. That's the same guy, when you talk about judge of character, he says he loves Gavin Newsom. I love the guy.

• 1:08:04Speaker 06

  Well, that's because he lives in California.

• 1:08:06Speaker 05

  He's backing off that a little bit.

• 1:08:07Speaker 06

  They have a personal relation.

• 1:08:08Speaker 05

  I gotta give him that, Vinnie. He's backing off that a little bit.

• 1:08:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, after his house burnt down, maybe he has a little bit. Put him on the red list.

• 1:08:14Speaker 04

  May I finish? May I finish? I don't trust that guy, especially when it comes to judging that character, because you know what? He would vote for Gavin Newsom for president. And this is the same guy, but let's not forget the left and their choices of who they love. Michael Avenatti, the creepy porn lawyer, they were advocating for him to be the president, Adam. So the same guy.

• 1:08:33Speaker 06

  No, they just were advocating because he was.

• 1:08:35Speaker 04

  And what'd you say about Bill Maher and his? Bill Maher and his, and his what? His woke progressive, you know, men in sports and all that shit? Yesterday, the Senate voted on the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act, the bill to protect female athletes from barring biological men from competing. The vote was 51, 45. Every single Democrat, including your boy Fetterman, voted against it. They want men to compete with girls so that woke ideology.

• 1:09:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you kidding me?

• 1:09:02Speaker 04

  I'm dead serious.

• 1:09:03Speaker 05

  Ever, ever.

• 1:09:04Speaker 04

  Yesterday, every single Democratic senator.

• 1:09:07Speaker 05

  Crazy.

• 1:09:07Speaker 04

  Voted against. Not one, guys, all of them. Chuck Schumer, Sanders, Warren, Booker.

• 1:09:13Speaker 04

  All these losers. So there goes your, you guys want him for president? He wants boys to play with girls. So that, you know, it's BS. And it's not, and by the way, and I'm not, I hope everything health wise is good. He had a stroke. He had to have people in his, in his thing type the, the contraption for him. He has cardiovascular problems. He was admitted to Walter Reed for clinical depression. I mean, we don't, I, I want a healthy, non short touring guy.

• 1:09:37Speaker 06

  Think about it this way though. And on the Democrat's side, we call him Senator.

• 1:09:41Patrick Bet-David?

  This is how, this is how I process this. This is how I process this. Remember when he was campaigning, he just looked bad.

• 1:09:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:47Patrick Bet-David?

  But in the last six months, when he does his interviews and he gives answers, he actually looks better now when you watch him, right? But think about it this way. If I told you a year ago that in, in March 4th, whatever today's March 4th, you know, uh, Bill Maher is gonna say the face of the Democratic Party is gonna be Fetterman, would you have believed me?

• 1:10:08Speaker 04

  I'd laugh in your face.

• 1:10:09Patrick Bet-David?

  So you know what that is though? Because there's no one left.

• 1:10:11Speaker 04

  True.

• 1:10:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So think about it. He didn't say AOC. He didn't say Newsom. He didn't say Tim Walz, who just announced that he's open to the idea of running for president 2028. He didn't say anybody, he didn't even say Stephen A. Smith. He says Fetterman. Where are they at today for them to say something like this? And by the way, what you just showed right now, if they can't sit there and realize what policies resonates with no one in America, literally, no one in America with these transgender issues, allowing men to compete in a one. Jillian, what do you think about that when you see this? Cause you, your reaction to when you saw it?

• 1:10:46Speaker 05

  They just keep digging. Dude, it's, these are 80, 20 issues. 80% of the country is against biological males in girls' sports. And there's no point where they're like, did anybody get this memo? Like we're getting our asses kicked on these issues. This is not a popular position. And they continue to quadruple down. I was actually talking to Cenk Uygur the other day and he said something that made perfect sense. He's like, somewhere the corporate left. And the woke far-left had a marriage that none of us knew about. Like, and they, they're locked into this path of self-destruction.

• 1:11:30Speaker 05

  And, like, okay, and the reason I actually understood what Bill was saying about Fetterman is because I do think it's going to be the Democrat that goes, "This is bananas. These guys are crazy and they need a hostile takeover of their party by a guy that's not afraid to call them out on their bullshit." But after Adam and Vinny just went to, it's certainly not Fetterman.

• 1:11:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. No, that's not the candidate. Okay, next story. Tariffs. Mexico-Canada tariffs will be implemented due to unacceptable drug flow, Trump says. Rob, if you can pull up this clip of President Trump and then show what happens to the stock market, the Dow, yesterday. Here's President Trump. Go for it.

• 1:12:11Speaker 04

  Very importantly, tomorrow tariffs, 25% on Canada and 25% on Mexico, and that'll start. So they're gonna have to have a tariff. So what they have to do is build their car plants, frankly, and other things in the United States, in which case they have no tariffs. In other words, you build, and this is exactly what Mr. Way is doing, by building here. Otherwise, they'll build, if they did them in Taiwan to send them here, they'll have 25% or 30% or 50% or whatever the number may be someday, it'll go only up. But by doing it here, he has no tariff, so he's way ahead of the game. And I would just say this.

• 1:12:49Patrick Bet-David?

  You know who that is? The guy to the right. You know who that is, the guy to the right? That's the, that's the chip company, right, Tom? TMSC. That's the one that did $100 billion in US. Okay? So tariffs on US. While he's saying this, Rob, can you pull up the Bloomberg story? What happened with car prices? What they're predicting is gonna be happening? Car prices are poised for $12,000 surge on Trump's new tariffs. Okay? Again, this is Bloomberg. Bloomberg is not a fan of Trump. Um, yeah, let me see what's going on. Okay, here we go. President Trump's 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico set on March 4th could spike US cars up to $12,000 per study of Anderson Economic Group led by CEO Patrick Anderson. Is this it, Rob?

• 1:13:30Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:13:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Play the clip. Go for it.

• 1:13:32Speaker 06

  So basically, they took, Anderson Economic Group took a look at certain vehicles that are North American assembled. I mean, they're built in Canada, Mexico, or the US. But they also use a number of parts from various regions. And a number of these had us $12,000 for a particular battery electric crossover. That's how much the price would go up if these tariffs are implemented, I guess, tomorrow. It also found that a pickup, a gas part pickup would go up by $8,000. And then they found a small car around $3,600. So there's various different actual cars that they anonymized and they actually did the analysis. The crazy part is it doesn't even include the cost of steel and aluminum tariffs. That's not even part of this analysis. This is just based on what Trump is saying and how automakers could try to work around what they'd have to pay their money for in terms of components.

• 1:14:17Speaker 06

  So it's not exactly a good thing for them. I mean, not good for consumers either because those are going to mostly pass on those costs to the consumers, MSRP. So pretty inflationary there, you know, for the automakers part, they're lobbying to say, hey, if you're going to do this to us, why not do this to the South Korean automakers and the Japanese automakers who are not being tariffed as heavily? And they don't make any of their cars in the US, right? So that's sort of the give and take. They're the balance. It's sort of part of the negotiation between the automakers, Commerce Department, and Trump at this point.

• 1:14:46Patrick Bet-David?

  $12,000 threatening models like Chevrolet Silverado, Ford Bronco Sport. Average car prices nearing 50%, up 20% from five years ago. Ford ability is already strained, Anderson noted. So you're talking a real number. Tom, your thoughts on this story here?

• 1:15:02Speaker 06

  Right. So if the tariffs stay, which are just now implemented, and if they stay...

• 1:15:12Speaker 06

  They will affect the price of the car. After all the cars that are built right now that are currently in inventory are sold, because those were built with yesterday's materials at yesterday's prices. After the cars are built today, that the raw materials are already landed and are being assembled into cars as we speak, and all those are sold, then yes, you will get to a point where the automakers are buying things at higher prices. Most of the time, manufacturers do what's called hedging. You know, the airline industry, they hedge and store fuel, massive quantities of it, to allow these things to go through.

• 1:15:52Speaker 06

  So, what you're seeing is, one guy from Anderson Consulting, which is only one, he's only one auto analyst, and he's not even the largest, but they're running him up the flag because he's saying exactly what the mainstream media wants to hear, that it's all there. So, could it all come true if this is still going on in four months? Sure. Do I think it's gonna still be going on in four months? No, because the clout that we have behind our tariffs is much higher than the clout that the other side has. I'll give you a great example. With the tariffs coming to Europe, Europe, the EU, Economic Union, managed to come together,

• 1:16:33Speaker 06

  and through a retaliatory strike, and you can go look this up, against the United States, and they are putting tariffs on Harley-Davidson motorcycles and Levi's jeans. That was an individual action that they took two weeks ago. So, we'll teach those Americans, we'll put tariffs on Harleys here in Europe, which aren't, don't sell particularly well over there, and on Levi's jeans, which is an American jean. And so, you can see, the tariffs, the market reacts, because market only thinks about future things. CEO says the wrong thing on earnings report, boom, stock moves, because that's a future, the stock market is future speculation.

• 1:17:16Speaker 06

  But in terms of the real impact on consumers, what was the third word in that sentence you just looked at? And the word was "could." Could. Tariff set for March 4th could spike. It's all speculative. Right now, these are negotiations. These aren't taxes. These are negotiations. If they're still around months from now, yeah, you could have a real live price impact.

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• 1:18:42Speaker 05

  From what I understand of this, historically speaking, this could go the wrong way, but I don't actually think that's what he's doing. I read The Art of the Deal 15 years ago, but one of the things that I remember, and we've taken away, when we negotiate our own contracts, is you ask for the sun, the moon, the stars. And then if you land on the moon, you're doing great. I wonder if this is not exactly that? I mean, that said, and not to relitigate what we discussed last night, but when you explained to me that this strategy in particular is what's bringing people into the country to manufacture chips here, like what we just saw with Taiwan, maybe he's legitimately serious?

• 1:19:27Speaker 05

  I'm kind of sitting back and waiting to see how everything Trump's doing will play out.

• 1:19:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I think that's the right thing to do. I think that's the right thing to do to see what happens. Adam, your thoughts on this here? I think there's one word that is like overplaying in Trump's head, overplaying, and that's the whole concept of fairness. I've been treated very unfairly. We've been treated very unfairly. They've been taking advantage of us for years. All these words like retaliation.

• 1:19:51Speaker 06

  Uh, it was reciprocal pricing, reciprocal tariffs, retaliatory. So you remember like it's a weird analogy, but you remember when Israel and Iran were trading blows about a year ago? Iran attacked Israel.

• 1:20:06Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 1:20:06Speaker 06

  Israel attacked Iran and they kind of started small. And then they went again. And then they did them drones and then they did missiles. So the point is like, once you start something, the other, the other country is going to make a move. And then you're like, all right, what do we do now? And you can stop. Or Iran maybe needs to respond again. And then Israel basically destroyed their entire air defense missile crisis and then uh, missile systems and then Iran's sort of been a sleeping giant for, for right now. The point is this, all these countries are going to respond. Canada's going to respond. I think China's already responded with their own 10% increases on tariffs. Mexico's going to respond. They're not just going to sit there and take it.

• 1:20:49Speaker 06

  So Gillian brought up a good point. She's like, I don't know how this is going to work out. You know, you have someone like Warren Buffett coming out there and basically saying, Trump's tariffs on goods are not good. It's, he says that the tooth fairy doesn't pay them. Who pays them?

• 1:21:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, you have that clip?

• 1:21:04Speaker 06

  Yeah. Do you have that? The consumer is going to end up paying them. Like Pat pointed out, there's a $12,000, cars are going to increase. The consumer is going to eventually have to pay them. So you might make the case that we have been treated unfairly and we do need to do something. But that might not work out well in the end. We're about to find out. Like Pat said, you start with a negotiation tactic. You throw out, it's like the art of the deal.

• 1:21:26Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:21:27Speaker 06

  Throw out something big and bold, see what they do. Oh, all right. You're going to make a move and now we negotiate. You have that clip with Warren Buffett?

• 1:21:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, yeah, give me one.

• 1:21:35Speaker 06

  Okay. So basically he says tariffs are actually, we've had a lot of experience with them. They're an act of war to some degree. So the reason that I said the act of war is

• 1:21:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:21:44Speaker 06

  That's the Israeli Iran analogy. Go ahead.

• 1:21:47Speaker 01

  Experience with them. They're, they're an act of war to some degree. How do you think tariffs will impact inflation? Over time, there are attacks on, on goods. I mean, you know,

• 1:21:58Speaker 05

  Tooth Fairy doesn't pay up. I mean. You always have to ask that.

• 1:22:03Speaker 04

  You love that joke.

• 1:22:04Speaker 05

  Always say, and then one. So is there an answer for that when when people say, you know, inflation persists, consumer prices keep going up, when's the end in sight? No, prices will be higher 10 years from now and 20 years from now and 30 years from now. And what do you think about what's happening in Washington right now? Technology changes things, all kinds of things, but Washington is Washington and the problem with politics is that you tend to have to make tiny compromises as you go along.

• 1:22:30Speaker 06

  Well, these are the pains, though, right, that we're gonna have to go through because what so what's what's everybody else? So he's doing this, why? Because they're all screwing us over because it's not reciprocal. Is that is that, am I right? That their tariffs are how much?

• 1:22:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Not all of them.

• 1:22:43Speaker 06

  Not all of them.

• 1:22:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Not all of them. Some of the countries that that he's doing are reciprocal tariffs, but just so you know, after the announcement that was made this morning, Rob, if you want to pull up the story that Apple just released, Canada, I think, just put a tariff on 155 different 15 companies, some industries, there's a, let me just tell you what just literally, this just happened this morning, right now, as this is coming out. Canada put 25% tariffs on 105 US goods. Okay. And you have China added 10 US companies to its unreliable entity list and 15 companies to its export control list, primarily targeting defense and intelligence firms, and China's

• 1:23:27Patrick Bet-David?

  now filing a lawsuit within the World Trade Organization against the US over the new 10% tariff. So they're gonna go back and forth, right? Now, they're gonna be doing that, and then you're gonna see who's gonna be able to, you know, last the longest time until something flips. Trust me, what Trump's not gonna want is he is pushing in my, the way I'm processing this, he's pushing the pressure now because he doesn't want the pressure to be pushed.

• 1:23:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Six months, nine months before midterms. He does not want that. Okay? When midterms comes and he loses the control, let's just say because the market's not good, he doesn't want that. So whatever strong positions he wants to take, he better take it right now. He will not be able to do it next year. That's all it is. Next year, you're gonna see a very much of a measured right before midterms and then again, strong push coming right after midterms and then it's the end of it.

• 1:24:21Speaker 06

  I fully agree with PBD and even the numbers show that, you know, how our friend Tom says, words talk, numbers scream. Here's an article CNBC. This was from a couple of days ago. The first quarter is on track for negative GDP growth, says the Atlanta Fed. GDP tracker forecasts 1.5% GDP shrink for Q1 2025, down from a 2.3% growth estimate driven by weak consumer spending. So basically Trump's saying, listen, it might suck for a little bit. Prices may go up. Inflation may not be, what they call that, transitory. So it might stick around

• 1:25:03Speaker 06

  for a little bit, but it's worth it because we're gonna shut down the border. We're gonna, we're gonna be treated more fairly. We're gonna tariff some of these countries that need to be basically treated a certain type of way. But like Pat said, when it comes towards midterms, hopefully, prices are less volatile. In my way, we gotta, you gotta take a look at this. Just scroll a little bit, Rob. Just scroll it up a little bit.

• 1:25:24Speaker 05

  I'm so sorry.

• 1:25:25Speaker 06

  Scroll down.

• 1:25:26Speaker 05

  Can I grab my inhaler?

• 1:25:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, of course. Go for it.

• 1:25:27Speaker 05

  You guys, I'm so, so sorry.

• 1:25:29Speaker 06

  No, they'll grab it for you. Jillian, they'll grab it for you.

• 1:25:32Patrick Bet-David?

  It's in your purse?

• 1:25:33Speaker 05

  It's in my backpack.

• 1:25:34Speaker 06

  Okay, go grab it, go grab it.

• 1:25:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't apologize, you're fine.

• 1:25:39Speaker 06

  It's okay. Vinnie P's twice his show. So basically, basically what's going on right now has nothing, nothing to do with Trump, what this report is right here, right now with consumer spending. The consumers ran their credit cards back up to 1.3 trillion dollars. BNPL delinquencies were shooting up even before the Christmas presents had been unwrapped. The consumer is very tapped out. And when you read now the fine print and you get behind the headlines that want to say, "Oh, because of Trump tariffs this." No, bullshit. It's got nothing to do with Trump tariffs. The Commerce Department's reporting personal spending fell 0.2% in January. By the way, he wasn't inaugurated until January 20th, ladies and gentlemen.

• 1:26:23Speaker 06

  And missing, missing estimates. Adjusted for inflation spending fell half. Why? The consumer was tapped out at the end of last year. And so, right now, what we have is a president that is trying to get some sanity and equivalency on tariffs, number one. And number two, he's trying to set the, uh, the economy up so it can grow, but the consumer is tapped out. And so, I think people need to look at this. It's very convenient for the mainstream media to say, "Oh, bad Trump this, bad Trump that." And by the way, not everything that's going on in the economy right now is good. We gotta get it sorted out. We gotta get cool heads to come together and get these

• 1:27:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Good point.

• 1:27:03Speaker 06

  Equivalent tariff things have to come together. But he, he didn't get inaugurated till January 20th, and the consumer's been tapped out since the end of last year.

• 1:27:11Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a good point. You are right. I will give you credit where credit's due because people spend way too much on the holidays. People spend way too much during Christmas. People spend way too much. Trump's only been president for, what is it now? Six weeks?

• 1:27:23Speaker 06

  Forty-eight days, forty-nine days, something like that.

• 1:27:25Patrick Bet-David?

  So, but at the same time, they're showing signs of decreasing consumer confidence. So, the whole speculation is that, that GDP is on track for negative Q1. So, he's still gonna be the president, you know, over the next few months. So, what they're saying is, they are tapped out. Everything you said is correct, but they're not seeing it that, that it's getting better. And they're not seeing the numbers go up. What's the stock market returns for the first quarter so far? It's barely, it's barely even, right? Like, it's not up big.

• 1:27:55Speaker 06

  As of yesterday, S and P gave back the gains for the year.

• 1:27:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Exactly. So, it's at even. So, the point is, eh, we're gonna see how this works out. But all the gains, all the, I mean, what's, what's Bitcoin at right now? Is it at 90? Eighty-five, yes.

• 1:28:10Speaker 05

  I was gonna say it was 86.

• 1:28:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Remember when it hit 104, whatever it was a couple of weeks ago? It's at 82. So, all the gains that happened over the last month or so have

• 1:28:22Patrick Bet-David?

  All been given back and now it's even down. Yeah. These are speculative forward walkers. You're talking about gains with Bitcoin. Let me tell you what he just announced on Truth. That the crypto community is going to lose their mind and they already are. Rob, I just sent it to you. Those two screenshots in your phone, if you can pull them up. Yesterday, I want to say it's yesterday, on Truth Social. The president said the following, which could be massive. He said this two days ago. A U.S. crypto reserve will elevate this critical industry after years of corrupt attacks by the Biden administration, which is my, why my executive order on digital assets directed

• 1:29:04Patrick Bet-David?

  the presidential working group to move forward on a crypto strategic reserve that includes XRP, okay, S O L, Z Solano, and ADA. I will make sure the U.S. is the crypto capital of the world. We are making America great again. And Rob, go to the next one. And look what else he said he's going to add because people were wondering. And absolutely, obviously Bitcoin and Ethereum as other valuable cryptocurrencies will be at the heart of the reserve. I love Bitcoin and Ethereum, okay? So, you know, he does this, the crypto community, if all of a sudden he puts $100 billion into crypto and it buys XRP, they, you know, they diversified in a way they're going to be doing that, that's going to be a very interesting move.

• 1:29:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, the Bitcoin conference is going to be insane because finally the U.S. has a crypto reserve. So you're right on what you're saying so far, but remember, when you're trying to change the way people think and you're trying to change the way relationships are internationally, you have to do it right off the bat because two years is going to come in no time, midterms. And that's exactly what he's doing. We won't know if these things are working properly or not till probably end of summer, in my opinion. I'm saying September, October, I think it's going to go that long, in my opinion, for us to really see if it's going to be good or not. AOC asks NPR host to clarify the problem when he asks about migrant crisis voters. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:30:30Speaker 04

  What extent is immigration as an issue part of your problem with working class voters? I mean, I guess my question would be what

• 1:30:40Speaker 05

  But what does the word problem mean?

• 1:30:44Patrick Bet-David?

  People voting for the other side and not for you.

• 1:30:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:30:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Feeling that Democrats are not serious about the issue in ways that concern them.

• 1:30:52Speaker 05

  I think that we have a problem on immigration because of the lack of progress that we've had on this issue. And as we know, Republicans weaponize that lack of progress. Of course, there was famously a bipartisan bill last year that Republican majority in the Senate and also in the House were willing to pass. President Biden was willing to work with them on it. And Donald Trump said, do not solve this problem. As long as it is broken, then it will be politically beneficial for us.

• 1:31:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Is she gonna be making a point, right?

• 1:31:32Speaker 05

  It is a problem, not just for Democrats.

• 1:31:34Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so while they're having this exchange about immigration, right? At the same time, California is waiting for Harris' decision in the governor race. While Tim Walz is saying he may consider running for, what do you call it, president in 2028. So California is sitting there saying, is this Harris thing gonna happen? Is it not gonna happen? You know, is the race something that, you know, because Newsom's gonna step aside with him starting a podcast? And maybe this is a chance for Harris to get in. Is she gonna be vocal about it when she was there the other day? The reason why I went from AOC to Harris to Walz to, you know, what we just talked about with Fetterman is, who is actually going to be the face of 2028 for the Democratic Party?

• 1:32:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Gillian, you're, you know, you've spent time with a lot of folks from the left and even, you know, you're recently kind of been in a different place. Who do you think? And maybe if you were an advisor hired saying, Gillian, who would you get behind on the left? Who would that person be?

• 1:32:32Speaker 05

  Gosh, the one who is the least woke and seems to put their head down and do the best job and focus on the issues at hand. I originally said Josh Shapiro.

• 1:32:47Speaker 05

  But I didn't realize that there may or may not be some scandal in his background. He's not my governor. But when I look at the landscape. I don't know who they've got. They've all just completely lost it. Remember when Klobuchar used to make sense 100,000 years ago? It's just they've all completely moved so far left that I just don't think they have a candidate, which is why guys like Bill are grasping at straws like Fetterman. Remember? I remember when she said, "Listen, I'd love to staple a diploma under everybody's chair here in the room and give you free healthcare and free college and free this and free that,

• 1:33:28Speaker 05

  but it doesn't work that way." And her search went up exponentially overnight because people knew she wasn't bullshitting them. She was telling the truth. Now, she's just unrecognizable to me politically, and I guess I would say Shapiro?

• 1:33:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, you think it's gonna be usual suspect? I just typed in right now just to see. I don't know what Google searches, what they're doing. The other day at CPAC, the leader was JD Vance and number two was Steve Bannon for CPAC for Republicans, right? Steve Bannon was two behind JD Vance. Okay, so JD Vance, he became a star. But on the left, you see Newsom, you see Whitmer, you see Shapiro, you see Westmore, you see Buttigieg. Who else? Is it gonna be a usual suspect or is it gonna be somebody else?

• 1:34:15Speaker 06

  So what happens, and this is not my opinion, I mean, let's go back and look at history. Whenever you have situations like this come up, the party looks around and we all cogitate, and "Look at this person, look at that person, look at this person, look at that person." You know, Antonio Villarosa, holy shit, he's still alive? You know, from LA, right? And all those things coming up. What will come back to the top is name recognition. Because they realize that the voter, the majority of the voter, 80% of those that vote, are living in short attention span theater. They will go to name recognition. And that's why I believe, right now, and I'm not trying to prognosticate, I believe this

• 1:34:57Speaker 06

  is gonna be Rick Caruso versus Kamala Harris. Because both parties are gonna go to name recognition. However, on the

• 1:35:07Speaker 06

  Republican side, Rick Caruso, critic of the wildfires, strong guy on sensible policies to rebuild Los Angeles and California. But I think at the end of the day, the reason they're all waiting for Kamala is because she's the choice of the Democrat establishment. That's why they're waiting for her. They're not saying, hey, if you don't make a decision in 10 minutes, we're going this way. And Tony Villarosa and and Elany Kounikales is they're each going to get 15% of the of the preliminary money. No, that's not what they're saying. They're saying, we're waiting on her because if all she has to say is, I'm doing it and we're going with her because that's the name recognition they want. And

• 1:35:50Speaker 06

  if you go back and look at how primaries and a lot of things happen, that's usually how it shakes out.

• 1:35:57Patrick Bet-David?

  You're saying for the governor of California or for the president? He's talking about he's talking about the gubernatorial. That's what you're talking about.

• 1:36:03Speaker 06

  I'm talking about the decision in the governor's race.

• 1:36:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I was talking about presidential. I thought we were talking about presidential. That's what I was talking about. No, Tom wasn't with us for about five minutes.

• 1:36:13Speaker 05

  Tom can't even imagine one of them as the president, so he just dropped it down to governor of California.

• 1:36:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I thought we fed you oysters last night. We got like good vitamin food.

• 1:36:22Speaker 06

  No, I was answering the question about the California governor's race.

• 1:36:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this here, Rob. This is what you pulled up. Rob has this here. Harris at the top is what side is this, Rob?

• 1:36:31Speaker 06

  This is from 538.

• 1:36:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so 538 has Harris at the top, then Buttigieg, then Walz, then Newsom. Newsom is fourth as of right now. Ocasio-Cortez is fifth, Whitmer, Shapiro, Cuban, then it's Fetterman, Pritzker, Warnock, Booker, Crockett. Seriously, Crockett?

• 1:36:54Speaker 06

  From Miami Vice? From Miami Vice? I'll get I'll get an 80s reference, not a 40s reference.

• 1:37:00Patrick Bet-David?

  But do you know who the Crockett is? Is that the Crockett? Is that Jamie Proctor?

• 1:37:04Speaker 06

  Jasmine Crockett. No way. Not her. Oh, my God. She's the worst.

• 1:37:08Patrick Bet-David?

  They have her on that list. Okay, great. Let's see what the next name is. Polis and then Bashir and Gallego. Gallego.

• 1:37:18Speaker 06

  Moore and Smith. Why even put them on there? They're at 0%.

• 1:37:21Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a 0.3, 0.4% type of a thing. Vinnie, what do you think? Well, first of all, can we go back to the Ocasio?

• 1:37:27Speaker 04

  AOC which I Adam you made a great observation I think she's pregnant I'm just gonna throw that out there that's a It was the first thing I thought I thought she was because the last video she made anyway that's besides the point she is a liar her saying Good to know that she thinks that women can have babies Thank God for that I don't know if she knew that She is a absolute lying through her teeth and shame on him for not saying anything she's talking about that border bill that Trump didn't want and that they said no and they don't care about migration no no that border bill had 60 billion dollars going to Ukraine um 14 million going to Israel and 4.5 billion going to Taiwan so she's full of of poop okay but I think Vinnie the language please I'm sorry Tom I apologize Jillian Michaels is here have a little respect But and I'm gonna make her leave the room again dude

• 1:38:11Speaker 05

  Don't make me laugh that would be the worst thing don't do that

• 1:38:14Speaker 04

  Yeah let her breathe they have zero the Democratic the left the party is absolutely cooked look who they have to pick for even that Kamala Harris it's it's you guys the Democrats that are even listening to this you have Stockholm syndrome you have fallen in love with your freaking abuser and like you said Jillian And it is you They can't make the switch even if like listen like they're gonna need a savior they're gonna need like somebody like a Stephen A Smith

• 1:38:39Speaker 05

  They'll crucify that person

• 1:38:41Speaker 04

  They will burn his ass to the ground because you're no what do you mean Steve let's just be honest if Stephen A They're never gonna embrace a guy like that he's gonna call him out on their bullshit

• 1:38:50Speaker 05

  That's what they need

• 1:38:51Speaker 04

  That's what they need

• 1:38:52Speaker 05

  That's what Trump did initially

• 1:38:54Speaker 04

  That's what they need but that's not

• 1:38:55Speaker 05

  They need a hostile takeover

• 1:38:56Speaker 04

  I understand that that's my point but here's the actual point the only way they're going to have hope Adam is that type of shit somebody to come in like a Trump and flip the whole table upside down or they're cooked forever The current status of Democratic Party and it does not give me great pleasure to say this is they got they got no hope and Bob Hope and Bob Hope's been dead for having like they got nothing it's completely up for grabs at this point

• 1:39:20Speaker 06

  The fact that Tim Walz is like, yeah, I'm thinking about handling, Tim Walz, listen, tampon Tim, sit this one out. Kamala Harris was the worst candidate they've ever run in our lifetime.

• 1:39:30Patrick Bet-David?

  And she's in first place?

• 1:39:32Speaker 06

  This broad's in first place.

• 1:39:34Patrick Bet-David?

  So if you're a Republican, congratulations, because you guys have a long time.

• 1:39:37Speaker 06

  Gavin Newsom, in my opinion, is still the guy. Can I ask you your opinion on something? So we'll see what happens with Adam.

• 1:39:41Speaker 05

  Oh god, no way, not after the fires. There's just no chance.

• 1:39:44Speaker 06

  He's gonna play a Billy Joel song, he's gonna say, we didn't start the fire, he's gonna do a little rally.

• 1:39:49Speaker 05

  Adam, it's not even going to be cleaned up by the time this guy has to run. There's no plan to clean it up, you realize that? There's nobody in charge of this mess. Literally, there's no one cleaning up the wreckage and the carnage out there. And this is gonna haunt him. I disagree.

• 1:40:10Speaker 06

  Oh yeah, yeah.

• 1:40:11Patrick Bet-David?

  You give Democrats, you give the left that much credit that even the slick Willie talking with this podcast and the first line of his promo was, let's change the conversation. That's, you think honestly, but you genuinely think so?

• 1:40:25Speaker 05

  I don't think they're, listen, a lot of them have moved to a place where they're never Trumpers, but I would vote for a Republican, just never Trump. That's what you end up hearing. They don't do any homework on the fact that the things they're outraged about their own party did 10 times more of. For example, immigration, illegal immigration. It's like, well, you know Clinton deported 12 million people, you know Obama deported 3 million people and Trump deported 1. Like, where was your outrage? Those are Obama's cages. Did you do any homework? I mean, Biden rolled back all of Trump's border policies

• 1:41:07Speaker 05

  and with the swipe of a frickin' pen, they could have stopped this, but they didn't. But, so beyond the fact that, you know, listen, they've planted their flag, they're blue, but they really do hate this guy. He is hated throughout the state. I'm seeing it more and more with people that are far, far left. And you're starting to hear things like, I would vote for a Republican, just never Trump.

• 1:41:31Speaker 06

  Okay, so let me ask you this, Julian Michaels, hypothetical.

• 1:41:34Speaker 04

  Those people you're talking about, the blue no matter who, they're never Trumpers, and they hate Gavin Newsom.

• 1:41:39Speaker 05

  They do. He is hated.

• 1:41:41Speaker 04

  If you're looking at a ballot and they see Gavin Newsom versus Donald Trump. But Donald Trump's not. Who are the hypothetically, who are they gonna vote for?

• 1:41:49Speaker 05

  Gavin.

• 1:41:50Speaker 04

  So that's my point. But Trump is not going back in. It's gonna be JD Vance or somebody. That's why it's called a hypothetical.

• 1:41:55Speaker 05

  But, but if you give them someone that is more moderate, that, that they can kinda get ahead of, no, I don't think so.

• 1:42:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I think, I think the part to look at that, that was the most impressive of what happened to America. Out of all the data points that everybody was showing, well, let me tell you, Pennsylvania this, well, let me tell you about this, and let me tell you about this. You know what's the most shocking data? The fact that every state in America became more Republican.

• 1:42:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:42:24Patrick Bet-David?

  But out of all the states that became more Republican, two states became more Republican than any other states. You know what those two states were? California and New York.

• 1:42:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:42:32Patrick Bet-David?

  That was the weirdest day. You're like, what? Remember that whole thing with the map with the pink thing?

• 1:42:36Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:42:37Patrick Bet-David?

  You're like, are you serious? So, I don't know. I don't know what-

• 1:42:41Speaker 05

  Cause they've been hit the hardest by it, Pat. That's why.

• 1:42:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. I mean, you, you know, you know what I would do? If, if, if, if Newsom is coming out to the day to announce that he's running for president, that day. If Trump's camp really wanted to pull off a great troll, get ahold of the DJ, influence the DJ to play a walk-up song. And the song is by Starship, "We Built This City," right?

• 1:43:06Speaker 04

  "We built this city."

• 1:43:08Patrick Bet-David?

  To say, "You F'd this city," right? Like if there's one-

• 1:43:12Speaker 04

  Change it to burnt, or we-

• 1:43:14Patrick Bet-David?

  "We burnt this city."

• 1:43:15Speaker 04

  "We burnt this city on rock and roll."

• 1:43:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Or what's the Billy Joel song? "Liberal policies," right? "We burned this city. We burned this city on liberal policies." That's what they gotta say, right?

• 1:43:27Speaker 04

  Or we didn't start the fire?

• 1:43:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:29Speaker 04

  "It was always burning since Gavin Newsom's been turning."

• 1:43:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Good one. So the point is, I mean, dude, the part that with Americans today with social media, the world has become like Dory from Finding Nemo.

• 1:43:45Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh, that's so accurate.

• 1:43:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Hi, what's your name? I'm Patrick. Hi. Hi. Hi, oh, COVID never happened. Hey, hi. Right? So this thing that the people are so quick to forget what? We forgot about the essential, non-essential. Guys, we gotta take care of your Michael's.

• 1:44:05Speaker 05

  Don't, I just can't laugh.

• 1:44:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Right? You know how many people were getting the non-essential? Remember Gerard? I think Gerard got the tattoo. Didn't Gerard get a tattoo? Non-essential? Oh, yeah, I think he did. People were like, dude, screw you. Like, the part, the biggest part is, anybody that's in the documentary business, anybody that's in, like, the people that do a great job. There's so many of these guys, phenomenal job. All of those documentary people have to make sure, take five companies, have five different documentaries to produce, and launch them all in 26 and then one in 28, just to remind everybody what will happen, because they're gonna forget. And that's the biggest thing. If you create a documentary about California fires and what led to it,

• 1:44:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I guarantee you, and you launch it in 2027, that documentary is directed to Newsom because he's gonna run, okay? Then you run a documentary. If you intentionally time these things to make people smarter, everyone's forgetting about what happened. Like, Michael Jordan, you know what's that? I have a note section in my phone of purely one thing. And I collect Michael Jordan debate things, okay? And look at this. If I find it, it's like, you know, young boys collect pictures of, you know, whatever pictures it is. Yeah, for me, it's stats of Michael Jordan, Kobe debate. You know which one I just found? Check this one out. Crazy. Rob, I'm gonna send this to you just to play it, just so you see.

• 1:45:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Because people forget about who Michael Jordan really was, right? They forget. I saw this stat here that I'm like, holy shit, what this guy did. The question is, how many 50-win teams?

• 1:45:48Patrick Bet-David?

  That people eliminate in the playoffs, okay? Fifty win teams, alright? They have Michael on the list, they have Kobe on the list, they have Magic on the list, they have Tim Duncan on the list, they have Larry Bird on the list, they have LeBron James on the list, and everybody wants to say LeBron James is the greatest, right? Rob, can you do me a favor and pull up this picture that I just found this, right? Look at this. Okay, Kobe eliminated 25 50-win teams. Michael 20, Duncan 18, Magic 13, Bird 10. LeBron has 12. And LeBron's played twice as many seasons nearly as Michael Jordan. He's at 12. Kobe, 25. Why is this important? People forget Michael. They forget who Michael was. They forget, they forget what this guy did, right?

• 1:46:33Patrick Bet-David?

  So everybody is just today, they think about LeBron, LeBron, LeBron. We have to make sure documentary folks produce the best documentaries, reminding us what happened to California, reminding us what happened to COVID, because by 2027, 2028, a lot of people are gonna forget. Okay, let me go to the next story. This next story is very important, and Jillian, I kinda need your help with this one here, because we got, you know, we got a lot of guys here, and we kinda want a little bit of perspective. So, why men can't help falling in love faster? They screw this thing up.

• 1:47:06Speaker 05

  Gosh, I don't see that.

• 1:47:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me read it. Let me read it, and maybe let's tear this guy apart if the argument's terrible. Australian National University researcher, that's the qualifier, Australian National University. Found men fall in love faster and more often than women, averaging 2.6 times versus 2.3 times, and saying "I love you" a month earlier, per a study of 800 people ages 18 to 25. The team notes, falling in love one month earlier provides men with a greater opportunity to use romantic love to promote courtship, with men nearly twice as likely to fall before a relationship starts, driven by a fitness landscape favoring quantity of potential mates.

• 1:47:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Women take longer, they take 1.92 months to develop intense feelings, but once smitten, they dwell on partners, 54% of waking hours versus men 44% of waking hours, showing deeper commitment. Researchers explain females begin choosing then males, seek quality over quantity, contrasting men quicker's plunge into love as an honest signal of commitment, per the Biology of Sex Differences journal. Do you agree with this?

• 1:48:18Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:48:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me why.

• 1:48:19Speaker 05

  Okay, here's why. There's a joke about lesbians. So you've got female energy squared, right? What do they bring on a first date? A U-Haul. That is not a joke about straight men or gay men. In other words, women instantaneously are like, oh, my God. I love you. Let's move in together. Let's. And that's a notoriously female thing. So you get two of us together and that's where you end up. So I'm gonna say no. A lot of my guy friends, like, they take a long time. They're, they're very discerning. And women nowadays, I'm sorry to say this. I, I, this is gonna be very unpopular. But I think that they sleep around too much.

• 1:49:04Speaker 05

  And I think they give themselves away too easily. I think that makes men lose interest pretty quickly. And I find that all my guy friends tend to wait for the girl. That made, or fall for the girl. That made them wait. I, I know that's not gonna be popular, but it's, it's what I've observed.

• 1:49:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Didn't, didn't Steve Harvey make a movie about that? Was it Lady something? Uh, uh, the book that became a movie?

• 1:49:26Speaker 05

  Act Like a Woman, Think Like a Man.

• 1:49:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's what it is.

• 1:49:30Speaker 05

  Yes, yes.

• 1:49:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Think Like a Man, Act Like a Lady, something like.

• 1:49:33Speaker 05

  Something like that.

• 1:49:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Act Like a Lady, Think Like a Man. Became a movie, actually a very good movie. And he had a rule of 90 days. So in the movie, they're fooling around. The guy's like, dude, I'm about to freaking go crazy. Like, you gotta wait 90 days. You gotta wait 90 days. You got, it's actually a very, very funny movie. You will laugh your ass off. Rob, can you type in Act Like a Lady, Think Like a Man movie? Act Like a Lady, Think Like a Man movie? That's it, that's it. Think Like a Man, that's the movie. Oh, my God, Kevin Hart's in it. Vinnie, it is absolute. I'm gonna watch it now. You know who the other, the other guy's in there? You know who that guy's from, uh, The 40 Year Old Virgin? Did you write this? Did you write this to a girl? No, hey. I did. Faux show.

• 1:50:16Speaker 05

  He goes, damn, bitch.

• 1:50:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Who talks like this? You know what? You don't talk like that to ladies, right? But, but do you agree? Tom, do you agree with what Jillian's saying? And then I'm gonna come to Adam. Do you agree that men, you know, because this article's saying men fall in love faster. She's saying no. What are your thoughts?

• 1:50:32Speaker 06

  Uh, I don't.

• 1:50:35Speaker 06

  I get the feeling, you know, at least my generation, the men are a little pickier. And they may be, you know, um, remember there's, there's two speeds for men, right? There's men that give fake love to get sex and then women that will give sex, but they get fake love. Right? And that's like the fallacy, that's a fallacy of the hookup generation. Can't believe you're talking about Adam live on the air like that, but go ahead. And so, um, I think men, men tend to be, men tend to be pickier and are less, less quick to want full commitment.

• 1:51:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead. That's great.

• 1:51:14Speaker 06

  That's what I think.

• 1:51:15Patrick Bet-David?

  What a breakdown. Adam, your thoughts? I'm gonna say this out loud. Tom's absolutely right.

• 1:51:20Speaker 06

  Bingo!

• 1:51:21Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm telling you right now, I know guys, play, oh, play, Tom. Cut the Tom. Gang, gang.

• 1:51:32Patrick Bet-David?

  But I do know men who basically are like, I love you, baby. Like, oh my God. And the women are like, oh my God. And they might use that line from time to time.

• 1:51:40Speaker 05

  They're full of shit, right?

• 1:51:41Patrick Bet-David?

  And then maybe they're like really good looking guys and maybe they do that and they say that and then they end up marrying Kim Kardashian. I know a guy that did that.

• 1:51:48Speaker 06

  Heyo!

• 1:51:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Right between the lines, but-

• 1:51:49Speaker 06

  Or they're a realtor in Miami. Here, drink this.

• 1:51:52Patrick Bet-David?

  That's true. All right, Tom, you're reeling a little too much. But I tell men this all the time. I got you. I got you. There we go. I tell men this all the time. That was a dark spin. Tom's a dark dude. Go ahead, bro. Men, if you need any advice when it comes to women, it's this. Try your best. I know it's gonna be hard to not fall in love with your eyes. Cause some of these girls, especially on the gram, especially on these dating apps. Damn, they look good. But there's something called Facetune, there's something called push up bras, there's something called plastic surgery, there's something called makeup. These girls look damn good. I'm just gonna say it. That, you know.

• 1:52:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Like, what's the whole joke with, uh, Dave Chappelle? He's like, you know, I'm talking, she looking good. I'm like, she's wearing a turtleneck, your titties are still popping out of your chest. Like, like, sorry about that, Tom. I know that, you know, your Hummer lifestyle ain't about this. But for men, you see a girl and it happens and they're like, oh my God. And you're like, I think I love her. I think I, I love her. And then the makeup comes off, you know, the dress comes off. She has a penis. You don't need that. Yeah. McMillan Mulvaney's in your house. Exactly. Last week. Whereas women, exactly.

• 1:53:08Speaker 06

  It's the crying game.

• 1:53:09Speaker 05

  Again?

• 1:53:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. For men, there's a difference between love and lust. One of our guys went through in Brazil, went to Brazil. Oh, really? I just learned about Kim Petras.

• 1:53:18Speaker 05

  I told you.

• 1:53:19Patrick Bet-David?

  The guy who had a great suit on, not the guy with the great hair. What you're saying. Uh, Antonio. But the point is, men fall in love like so quickly because they fall in love with their eyes. Damn, you look good. And then they get to know her, then you find out she does OnlyFans. Let me ask you a question.

• 1:53:33Speaker 05

  You're falling in lust.

• 1:53:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree. But you're not gonna say, hey, baby, I'm falling in love with you.

• 1:53:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, but this says love. That is not love.

• 1:53:41Patrick Bet-David?

  How many girls have you said, I love you to Adam? How many girls have I? What time is it? I love you, that you meant it. I'm actually very protective. Adam, don't hold him. Somebody hold him. How many times? Um, how many like serious, serious, serious relationships I've been in my life? Forty-eight. Probably like four. Four girls you said, I love you. Well, Naomi, your girl. Four girls you said, I love you. Yeah, my wife, my ex-wife, I think I told her that. Then the other one. You think you told her that? So four. Vinny, how many girls?

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• 1:55:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Seven. I was in the military. I was like, I love you. I was in Montana. I was here, I just. How many guys? Four. Okay, perfect.

• 1:55:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:55:19Patrick Bet-David?

  What, my dad, my brother? Julian, how about you Julian? Julian, how many women have you told you love? How many men have you told you loved?

• 1:55:25Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:55:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, here we go.

• 1:55:26Speaker 05

  I did have a boyfriend when I was 17.

• 1:55:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you love him?

• 1:55:30Speaker 05

  I did love him.

• 1:55:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, that's fine.

• 1:55:31Speaker 05

  I don't know that I was super attractive, but he was lovable.

• 1:55:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Sounds very puppy dog.

• 1:55:35Speaker 05

  That was a bit, yeah. Okay, then I gotta think of pretty much every frickin girlfriend, because that's what girls do. And I think I've had, I don't know, like seven of them. So.

• 1:55:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Thank you. Play on, play on Julian, okay?

• 1:55:50Speaker 05

  I mean, I'm old. I don't know if it's that I'm a player or just a lot of time under my belt.

• 1:55:55Patrick Bet-David?

  So seven.

• 1:55:55Speaker 05

  I think probably.

• 1:55:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And what was your longest relationship?

• 1:55:58Speaker 05

  My wife now.

• 1:56:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:56:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's like seven and a half.

• 1:56:01Patrick Bet-David?

  But ready for this? How many people have you have told you they love you? Oh, I'm in the.

• 1:56:05Speaker 05

  Oh, all those bitches.

• 1:56:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, look.

• 1:56:07Speaker 05

  All those bitches. Oh, my God.

• 1:56:10Patrick Bet-David?

  All them bitches.

• 1:56:11Speaker 05

  Too many to count.

• 1:56:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I love it. Tom. That was so close.

• 1:56:15Speaker 05

  A hundred.

• 1:56:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

• 1:56:16Speaker 05

  Hundred percent.

• 1:56:17Patrick Bet-David?

  How many bitches have told you they love you?

• 1:56:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen.

• 1:56:21Speaker 05

  I love you, Tom.

• 1:56:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom is the best. That's one. That's one.

• 1:56:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:56:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I love you too, Tom. Tom had a name.

• 1:56:28Speaker 05

  See, and Tom doesn't love me yet, which goes.

• 1:56:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, there you go. But this is full shit.

• 1:56:32Speaker 05

  I already love Tom.

• 1:56:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Hold on, hold on.

• 1:56:34Speaker 05

  I gotta grow on Tom.

• 1:56:36Patrick Bet-David?

  How many women have you said? No, I love you. I love your authenticity. I love your openness. Why you gotta pre-qualify it? Just say I love you. That's it. We don't need the precursor. Julian, I love your inhaler. I love everything. Yeah. PBD. I'm not all sappy like that. Tom. Today and last night, I had a great deal of respect. We're gonna go to PBD now. We're gonna go to PBD now. Because you know it's his show, we're gonna ask him a question.

• 1:56:59Speaker 06

  I've had DVDs on my shelf for 20 years. I told it all this time.

• 1:57:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Next to your Tybo videos.

• 1:57:05Speaker 05

  There were his wives, but still.

• 1:57:06Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. PVD, how many women have you said I love you to? I think it's two. Two? Obviously Jen. No, it's three. Okay. Because it's three, three, yeah, it's three. Maybe it's four. I am very like, that is not a word I drop. I agree. Dude, that's like a... It's, you're selective. It's so risky. Yeah. And why is it risky?

• 1:57:28Patrick Bet-David?

  For the amount of commitment and like stuff that comes with it? No, like, listen, I like you so much.

• 1:57:34Speaker 05

  Oh, that can't go over well, Pat.

• 1:57:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I like you so much.

• 1:57:37Speaker 05

  Uh oh.

• 1:57:37Patrick Bet-David?

  We're almost there, but I like you. Maybe one day I'll love you. But I like you.

• 1:57:43Speaker 05

  How'd that work out for you?

• 1:57:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Guess what? It wasn't public relation. I had a lot of private relationships that I... If you walk next to me publicly, it's a statement to the market. So I was very selective. So if you're with me publicly, I'm telling the world, you're mine. This is a serious thing going on. But if it's private, like, friends would go out, they're like, hey, man, who's this girl? I'm like...

• 1:58:07Speaker 05

  Like when a dog pees on a tree, but it's like a girl...

• 1:58:09Patrick Bet-David?

  It's gotta be like...

• 1:58:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, just marked.

• 1:58:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:11Speaker 05

  I like it.

• 1:58:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Great job, Jen, locking this man down. So, no, it's not, it's not...

• 1:58:16Speaker 05

  You should write a book.

• 1:58:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, no.

• 1:58:17Speaker 05

  Oh, wait, hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 1:58:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Here we go, Julian.

• 1:58:20Speaker 05

  How long did she make you wait?

• 1:58:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Whoa. How long did who?

• 1:58:23Speaker 05

  Jen, how long did she make you wait?

• 1:58:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, same night. What did we talk?

• 1:58:27Speaker 05

  What?

• 1:58:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Jen is going nuts, girl. No, it was a minute. It was a minute. Because we went through, we went through the book that we read. There was a whole process of, and I was at a place, because I was dating four girls at the same time, and I was telling all of them, I'm not being promiscuous. I'm trying to look for a wife. There was four girls I liked, and I was talking to all of them. And every, every one of them asked me, please, don't, because I knew the girls for many years. She knows the girls. Jennifer knew the girls as well. And I'm like, look, man, this is kind of where I'm at. If we get to the next phase, I'm looking for a wife. I'm not looking for a girl. So it was four girls, and then boom.

• 1:59:05Speaker 05

  Who's the last one that slept with you?

• 1:59:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Last one that slept with me?

• 1:59:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, who slept with you? Who held out the longest? Trying to prove a theory here.

• 1:59:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I've been married for 15 years. We've been together for 18 years.

• 1:59:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude, I don't even know.

• 1:59:20Speaker 05

  But out of those four, I'm guessing Jen was the holdout.

• 1:59:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I would say yes, probably, but I would say the three? I don't know.

• 1:59:31Speaker 06

  No, you weren't dating Jen at the same time you were dating the other three. Like Jen was separate, right?

• 1:59:36Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I'm talking to all four of them. This is very public. It was very, very public. It was very open. It wasn't something that I'm like, you know, beating around the bush. It was like, hey, I'm not ready, but if I know we can go through the questionnaire, let's see what we're gonna be at. And then boom. Four kids later, we're at 15 years, and I think we'll make it to 16.

• 1:59:56Speaker 06

  I think so too.

• 1:59:57Patrick Bet-David?

  We take it one year at a time. That's marriage. One year at a time. So, you know, after like a big argument, family, whatever issues, bunch of shit happens, SportsCenter, ESPN, NBC shows up, so how is everything going on? You know what? We're just taking it one day at a time, this marriage thing. Because we gotta get back and go to the drawing board and look at some of the, you know.

• 2:00:15Speaker 06

  It's a waiting game. We're focusing on the Eagles next week.

• 2:00:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Watching tape, and we're gonna figure it out. We're gonna figure this thing down and see what we're just gonna do. It's kinda how this works, man. This is... Alright, let's do one last story and then we wrap up.

• 2:00:27Speaker 05

  And then Vinny's gonna take me to the hospital.

• 2:00:29Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:00:29Speaker 05

  So, okay.

• 2:00:30Speaker 06

  Oh, Julian, I'm so sorry.

• 2:00:31Speaker 05

  Guys, this is what happens when you have kids. They still infect you.

• 2:00:36Speaker 06

  We have fun.

• 2:00:36Speaker 05

  It's unbelievable. Ungrateful little bastards.

• 2:00:38Speaker 06

  Vinny gets them from other kids.

• 2:00:39Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, let's do this one here. So, conservatives explode at botched Epstein document rollout complete disappointment. Okay? And Vinny's one of them, right? Is that a clip that you have?

• 2:00:49Speaker 06

  There we go.

• 2:00:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I wanna go to the next one and then we'll wrap it up. If you have this. Is this Jesse?

• 2:00:54Speaker 06

  I have Jesse Waters, and I also have Pam Bondi. Pam Bondi discusses a dump truck full of documents being dropped off.

• 2:00:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead and play this clip. Go for it.

• 2:01:01Speaker 06

  We all did. And the FBI handed over a couple hundred pages of documents. But you know, Sean, I gave them a deadline of Friday at 8 a.m. to get us everything. And a source had told me where the documents were being kept. Southern District of New York, shock. So, we got them all by, hopefully all of them, Friday at 8 a.m. Thousands of pages of documents. I have the FBI going through them. And Cash is also... Now that we have Cash here, it's a game changer. And Cash is going to, Director Patel, is going to get us a detailed report as to why the FBI withheld all of those documents.

• 2:01:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, I want to be clear, because I think people got frustrated, because they were expecting more. You were expecting more, and you didn't find out, less than 24 hours before the release, you got a whistleblower that confirmed that there were way more documents that they were supposed to turn over, and then you found out just before that.

• 2:01:58Speaker 06

  Well, sure, and you're looking at these documents going, these aren't all the Epstein files, you know, there were flight logs, there were names, and victims' names, and we're going, where's the rest of the stuff? And that's what the FBI had turned over to us. And so, a source said, whoa, all this evidence is sitting in the Southern District of New York. So, based on that, I gave them the deadline, Friday at 8:00, a truckload of evidence arrived. It's now in the possession of the FBI. Cash is going to get me, and himself, really, a detailed report as to why all these documents and evidence had been withheld. And, you know, we're gonna go through it, go through it as fast as we can, but go through it very cautiously to protect all the victims of Epstein, because there are a lot of victims.

• 2:02:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, you had identified and... Then the next one you have is, is there anything different with Jesse Robb, or no? No, more just him questioning. There are some interesting ties that he does bring up to the SDNY, and who is investigating this case. Go for it.

• 2:02:55Speaker 04

  So, who's in charge at the New York FBI field office?

• 2:02:59Patrick Bet-David?

  James Dennehy.

• 2:03:00Speaker 04

  Who's withholding Epstein docs from the Attorney General? James Dennehy is running the show there. There he is. This is the guy who emailed his whole staff to dig in after Trump took office. And don't forget that James Comey's daughter is an Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York.

• 2:03:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Weird.

• 2:03:18Speaker 04

  She worked on the Epstein and Maxwell cases. She's kinda knee-deep in this. Epstein was facing sex trafficking charges in Lower Manhattan. Where's all that paperwork? The FBI seized computers, surveillance videos, banking records, file cabinets, and photographs from all of Epstein's properties in New Mexico, the Virgin Islands, Palm Beach, and in New York. The Justice Department also gave Epstein a sweetheart non-prosecution deal 17 years ago. Where are those files? The Bureau of Prisons. Where are those?

• 2:03:52Speaker 05

  You remember where Epstein killed himself? I asked Bill Barr about that, why everything seemed to go wrong that night.

• 2:04:03Speaker 05

  When I first heard all the information and all the coincidences here, I was suspicious. What were the coincidences? I mean, those were a lot of coincidences. Well, one of the cameras was out. Right. He was supposed to have a cellmate. Cellmate left, they didn't replace the cellmate. And the guards who were supposed to check him every half hour didn't check him.

• 2:04:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's kind of where I'm going to this. All right, so let me tell you where I'm going with this. So then the story says, let me just tell you, that Ghislaine Maxwell considering seeking presidential pardon and da-da-da-da-da. From Trump, she's seeking this. She's seeking pardon, which guess what? If she's prompting the seek, I'm liking that, and I'll tell you why. Ghislaine Maxwell for 20 years, some pardoning from President Trump, her old friend, per a Tallahassee prison source. To the mirror, they all know how close she once was to him. She tells people often enough, often enough, after her fill 2023, proclaiming Florida appeal. Shield her signing, friends now push. What has she to lose? Okay? Noting the Trump's recent pardons and her silence on Epstein, Trump and Epstein, okay?

• 2:05:07Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so that's that story. Vinny, for you, I have my thoughts and I have a solution. I have an idea that I think a lot of people, if you're supporting this, share it, but I'm gonna go to Vinny first. You hear this, how do you feel about it?

• 2:05:20Speaker 06

  Well, first of all, James Dennehy, so if you guys didn't catch what he said, he's the head of the FBI's New York field office. He was forced, he didn't just bounce, he was forced to retire because they accused him, Pam Bondi and all them, because he's hiding thousands of files. Why would this guy, an FBI agent, because mind you, Cash Patel's in, I think people, there's a misconception, Julian, that people think that all the people that are in all of a sudden switched and now they're pro-Trump and they're pro-this agenda. And that's not the case. Just like back in Russia collusion with Peter Strzok, Andy McCabe, Lisa Page, it was all, we're gonna have an insurance policy. And for him to say, we're gonna dig in, that means- Those same people are still in charge and they're still protecting each other.

• 2:06:05Speaker 06

  And James Comey's daughter, guys, you guys all remember who Jamie, James Comey is. The Trump-hating Hillary Clinton covering up guy. His daughter is the Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, where all these documents are. So as much as these people are promising us, I still, Vincent O'Shaughnessy, don't think it's still gonna see a light of day. Because all those people, guys, we have to understand what this was. Whoever he worked for, FBI informant, Mossad, CIA, let's just say he was working for all three. There is footage, there is a tape of all these elites, all these higher-ups that you guys all are thinking about, the allegedly Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, all these higher-ups, there's footage of them.

• 2:06:48Speaker 06

  And the fact that that they're not, it's not gonna see the light of day, shows you how powerful these people are. The phone calls that are being made saying, "Don't you guys dare put that shit out." Because guess what? Your friend, your brother, your whatever, we have footage of them. Because I'm almost, I've been saying this forever. Imagine, uh, Julian, you go to this island and you're all there chilling. You go home and you think life is good and you get an encrypted email that says, "Hey, listen, we want X, Y, and Z. You're a governor, you're a president, whatever." And you say, "No," they go, "Oh yeah, click on this link." And it's you with an underage person that you had no idea about. They got you for the rest of your life. It's over. I don't think anything's gonna come up, Pat, because all these people are all connected. Judges, politicians. That's the Diddy thing too, right? Yeah. You know?

• 2:07:30Speaker 06

  And you're in there playing hide the salami with these underage kids and now you've got... Well, he's being honest. Hey, guys.

• 2:07:36Speaker 05

  Tom is on fire today, man.

• 2:07:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm a little bit... We can't, so just shut it down already.

• 2:07:40Speaker 05

  I have an inhaler in the other room if you need it to recover from that.

• 2:07:44Speaker 06

  Well, go ahead, no, Tom, because I mean, you're horrible. You know, it's horrible.

• 2:07:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it kosher? Go ahead.

• 2:07:48Speaker 05

  Man.

• 2:07:49Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, you know like at least 500 kids are Googling right now, "What is hide the salami?" Don't do that.

• 2:07:54Speaker 05

  What the heck?

• 2:07:56Speaker 06

  You're a dad.

• 2:07:56Speaker 05

  Jeez, Tom.

• 2:07:57Patrick Bet-David?

  This is...

• 2:08:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Tom. Well, you're free, but go ahead. Go ahead.

• 2:08:03Speaker 06

  No, I...

• 2:08:04Speaker 05

  More rope?

• 2:08:05Speaker 06

  Go ahead, Tom.

• 2:08:05Speaker 05

  You give him more rope, Pat?

• 2:08:07Speaker 06

  Go ahead, Tom. We found the salami. Go ahead.

• 2:08:10Patrick Bet-David?

  That time I would wait, I mean, first of all, you want to give us more details? Where is the Salami Fund? What part of Italy? Is it Milan? Is it, you know, Chincette? If you're gonna go there, tell us.

• 2:08:22Speaker 06

  What do you want to do?

• 2:08:23Patrick Bet-David?

  We're going to Modena.

• 2:08:24Speaker 06

  This is the essence, this is the essence of blackmail. This is the same reason that nobody is talking on Diddy, right? Because everybody's caught. Everybody's caught.

• 2:08:35Patrick Bet-David?

  But why does it have to be blackmail because it's Diddy? Like, what's the?

• 2:08:38Speaker 06

  Slime.

• 2:08:39Speaker 04

  No, they're known for a certain type of blackmail.

• 2:08:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Blackmail like M A L E or M A I L?

• 2:08:45Speaker 06

  No, it's extortion and coercion.

• 2:08:50Speaker 05

  M A I L.

• 2:08:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Just trying to see if Tom. Hey, Kim, whatever you did to Tom this morning, he is wild. Just so you know, whatever you did, he's wild. But let me take my idea. Here's my idea.

• 2:09:04Speaker 06

  No, it's coffee. Seven is my limit.

• 2:09:05Speaker 05

  I was doing so well until I was on it.

• 2:09:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me what you think about this. Tell me what you think about this.

• 2:09:10Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh.

• 2:09:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so you know how the question is? Hey, we're gonna go find if the gold is at Fort Knox, okay? By the way, do you know, since the inception of Fort Knox, it costs $540,000 to build? They built it in one year? And after they built it, they moved roughly 400, 50% of our gold is at Fort Knox? That's hidden there? They have security on top of security on top of security that's in this place? Do you know since then, the first time till today, how many times have opened it up to be seen? Three times.

• 2:09:44Speaker 06

  How many years?

• 2:09:45Patrick Bet-David?

  In 70 years, it's only been three times. 80 years, only three times people have gone in to see if the actual gold is there? And no one's ever touched and audited to see if all the gold is there, right? So what does Trump say? Trump, and you know why they chose this place? They bought 40 acres of land. They wanted it to be in a place that doesn't have earthquake, no fault line, fault line, no, nothing like that. They do get hurricane and tornado in this area because it's in, it's in Kentucky, right, Rob? It's like 20 miles outside of Louisville, if I'm not mistaken. Very interesting thing about Fort Knox. And guess what Trump and Musk want to do? They want to go visit this place. You know, if you really want to know? What happened with Epstein? You know what I would do?

• 2:10:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna go visit Ghislaine Maxwell.

• 2:10:33Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna go and say, hey, I'm the president. I'm sending Cash Patel and Pam Bondi to come and talk to her. And let's strike a deal. We'll give you a lifetime protection that nothing can ever be done to you. If you tell us everything about everything, it's a lifetime, uh, uh, what do you call that?

• 2:10:55Speaker 04

  Pardon?

• 2:10:55Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:10:56Patrick Bet-David?

  And a safe place. The negotiation, if, if, when Sammy the Bull did his deal, they allowed him to do facial surgery to reconstruct the way he looks so the audience wouldn't recognize him. If they say, we'll do anything and everything to make you go back to having a normal life, et cetera, et cetera, but tell us all of it. They can do that, can't they?

• 2:11:15Speaker 04

  Thousand percent.

• 2:11:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Will they do that?

• 2:11:17Speaker 05

  No.

• 2:11:18Speaker 04

  No way.

• 2:11:18Speaker 05

  No way.

• 2:11:19Speaker 04

  Because a lot of their friends.

• 2:11:21Speaker 05

  Somebody knows all of it already. If they get involved with her, it implies a connection. I, last night, Vinny was talking about how if Trump pardoned her, he's, he's voting for Kamala.

• 2:11:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm voting for Kamala. If Donald Trump, I'm saying, well, that's a whole different situation. If they just, because she's saying like.

• 2:11:39Speaker 06

  You're saying, what now, Vinny? Hold on. You're saying you're voting for Kamala, why?

• 2:11:44Speaker 04

  She's joking about the Kamala thing, but if, first of all, if we don't get, if they don't get to the bottom of this, in this four years, and if Trump pardons her without that type of stipulation, I am, cause, cause you know where I'm going back to? I can't give a shit about the, the, the, people are perverted, they're gonna have to deal with God. It's the children, the underage kids, that these people have destroyed. And no, the, the, the lack of care for kids in this fucking country drives me through the, like, like, and they're like, we're gonna cover the victims' names. Okay, that's fine. I want, from day one, we've been seeking accountability. But if this, if nothing happens, and every day, Pat, every.

• 2:12:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Single day I'm posting, we were promised the JFK, we were promised 9/11, we were promised Epstein, and nothing's happening, I'm counting business days, we're on day seven. That bullshit, um, um, influencer, oh, oh, look at I'm holding, that was a shit show, that was embarrassing. What are you guys, what are you guys doing? There's children involved, there's kids involved. You guys have kids, you guys have kids. Imagine that 12-year-old that was there, oh, right here. You were raped and then they potentially killed you.

• 2:12:47Speaker 05

  And not let her go.

• 2:12:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And we're, and we're, and we're playing this game. It's absolutely ridiculous. So if they do, I mean, that's a great idea, I mean, if she spills the beans, but if they just pardon, no. I'm not, I'm not playing that game, bro. I'm, I voted for, this is what I voted for, for the country to be back, for the border to be closed, and for these demons, these demons to be held accountable. Like Fauci, he pardoned everybody, he pardoned everybody. I want, get the state involved, we, we deserve one person. I don't give a shit who it is, I don't care if it's Bill Gates or whoever. I want one person going to jail, one, give us one. Is that asking for too much, Tom?

• 2:13:25Speaker 06

  No, and it seems pretty simple. The federal government's in possession of all these files.

• 2:13:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, we don't need immunity.

• 2:13:31Speaker 06

  Redact the kids' names and the things that you need to redact, um, and then, let's see. It's not like you have to investigate it, you've, you, you have everything. And if there is a, you know, if you've got, you get, you pardon Maxwell, and she gives you the names of celebrity number 81. You know, and some poor schlep celebrity goes to prison, right? It's sort of like the end of the movie The Big Short, where the only guy that went to jail was that one guy from Deutsche Bank, remember?

• 2:14:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:14:06Speaker 06

  And they go to the end of it and they take, you know, everybody went to jail. Actually, no, no one went to jail, they all went on doing what they're doing, except this one guy from Deutsche Bank. If that's what they do, then I think you have less trust after than you have right now.

• 2:14:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Thank you, I agree.

• 2:14:22Speaker 06

  Well, I think the one person that did go to jail was Ghislaine Maxwell.

• 2:14:25Speaker 05

  She's the guy from Deutsche Bank, yeah.

• 2:14:27Speaker 06

  I mean,

• 2:14:28Speaker 05

  She's a sacrificial lamb.

• 2:14:29Speaker 06

  She was the sacrificial lamb, yes, but she was there the whole time. So I don't know, I mean, I think Andrew Tate brought up a good point, I know that's, you're a big fan, Julian. And he says, look, and I understand where you're at, I understand that there's

• 2:14:43Speaker 05

  What does Andrew Tate have to say about the Epstein case?

• 2:14:45Speaker 06

  Well, he basically said, listen, they said there's gonna, Actually said, listen, are we really gonna bring down this person and this person at the expense of a hundred billion dollars? At the expense of whether it's Bill Gates?

• 2:15:01Speaker 05

  No way.

• 2:15:02Speaker 06

  Or whether it's Leon Black, whatever name, whatever amount of money. Are you really gonna open up Pandora's box?

• 2:15:08Speaker 04

  I think we have to.

• 2:15:09Speaker 06

  To put this one person in jail?

• 2:15:11Speaker 05

  Never gonna happen.

• 2:15:11Speaker 06

  And risk all this? All your jobs, all your livelihoods, all your houses, all your kids' college tuitions, all your grandma's this, this, that.

• 2:15:21Speaker 04

  Do you think it's worth it? Do you think, do you personally think it's worth it? Knowing exactly what these people did and what was the point? And meaning, and look at all the, all the policies and stuff because people have control over people.

• 2:15:31Speaker 06

  But what you mean, these people? If it was Epstein, who was the mastermind?

• 2:15:36Speaker 04

  He wasn't the mastermind, he was the guy that they, that they put in place, just like the Diddy.

• 2:15:40Speaker 06

  For me, it wouldn't like to get, as Tom alluded to, celebrity number 76 to throw him in jail as a sacrificial lamb. What does that do? Is that, was that really gonna help you sleep better at night? Cause they put one random schmuck in jail?

• 2:15:55Speaker 04

  I don't, I don't think none of them, nobody went there that was random. Cause if one of them falls at them, that's the thing, they're all gonna fall. They're all gonna fall.

• 2:16:01Speaker 06

  I don't know, but then, but Tate did say it's like this kind of soap opera that like

• 2:16:05Speaker 04

  It's not a soap opera.

• 2:16:06Speaker 06

  For people who are just in this like, don't like.

• 2:16:09Speaker 04

  But see, and I disagree with him. Um, it's not a soap opera.

• 2:16:11Speaker 06

  You should have told it to his face then.

• 2:16:12Speaker 04

  No, but he, he was going on his rant. I, I don't agree. No, I, I push back because I don't, Adam, it's accountability for those kids. Even though God, all those people, at least I could sleep well at night, that they're going to have to meet their maker. And if you read the Bible, Matthew chapter 16, verse 8 says what? If you make any of these young ones stumble or sin, it's better for you to tie a millstone around your neck and throw yourself in the deepest depths of the ocean. Meaning, go kill yourself, go die.

• 2:16:38Speaker 06

  Pretty clear.

• 2:16:38Speaker 04

  Don't mess with the kids. And that's the problem. And we just look it over. I don't give a shit about billions or how we suffer. Let, I want. To know who the hell was doing what?

• 2:16:48Speaker 05

  I think it's who was behind the entrapment piece that they don't want us to know.

• 2:16:53Speaker 04

  Of course not.

• 2:16:54Speaker 05

  The entire operation, I think, is the scandal. I mean, because it's like, OK, Prince Andrew, blah, blah, blah, maybe Michael J. OK, you know, no one's shocked to hear that celebrities are creepy, perverted, or deviant. It's like, it's not new news.

• 2:17:09Speaker 06

  Particularly Prince Andrew, right? I mean, the tabloids have known since he was 26.

• 2:17:14Speaker 04

  That's a fantastic point she just made.

• 2:17:15Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 2:17:15Speaker 04

  The people, because think about it, Adam, FBI informant, CIA Mossad, you know what that means? Great point. These people were cool with underage kids having sex.

• 2:17:26Speaker 05

  Telling you.

• 2:17:26Speaker 04

  And raped and whatever because they wanted to put leverage on politicians and actors and shit? What? Nobody even talks about that. That was your plan? That was the blackmailing thing?

• 2:17:36Speaker 05

  That's exactly what I'm saying. That's why we're never gonna know.

• 2:17:39Speaker 06

  To do what? Right? Well, now that they've levered them, what did they do with the leverage?

• 2:17:44Speaker 05

  God only knows.

• 2:17:45Speaker 06

  That's...

• 2:17:46Speaker 05

  God, and that's, you're right. That's another thing we're never gonna know.

• 2:17:49Speaker 06

  OK, so let's say it was Mossad. So it was Mossad behind levering, but for what purpose? What'd they do with the lever?

• 2:17:55Speaker 04

  Influence.

• 2:17:56Speaker 06

  That's the bigger rabbit hole.

• 2:17:58Speaker 04

  That's crazy.

• 2:17:58Speaker 06

  Why are we, like, why, why, OK, I get Mossad, I get, he was an FBI informant.

• 2:18:03Speaker 04

  On top of.

• 2:18:04Speaker 06

  No, not on top. That's the one thing we know.

• 2:18:06Speaker 04

  But he could still work for Mossad.

• 2:18:07Speaker 05

  Do we know that? I didn't realize, I did not realize.

• 2:18:10Speaker 04

  Ghislaine Maxwell's father worked for Mossad.

• 2:18:11Speaker 05

  That I, that I know.

• 2:18:12Speaker 06

  Let's just back up. What do we know for sure, Rod? That he was an FBI informant.

• 2:18:17Speaker 04

  Well, because you just heard about this a couple of days ago. But you never heard about Mossad? Did you never hear about Mossad?

• 2:18:23Speaker 06

  I've heard a lot of things.

• 2:18:23Speaker 04

  OK.

• 2:18:24Speaker 06

  Well, what do we know?

• 2:18:25Speaker 04

  Ghislaine Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, worked for, he was an agent. I mean...

• 2:18:30Speaker 06

  Tom's...

• 2:18:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, this is all obsessed, the Daily Beast.

• 2:18:33Speaker 06

  Pat's dad worked for a 99 cent store. Doesn't mean Pat works for a 99 cent store. What do we know for sure, Vin?

• 2:18:38Speaker 04

  Record shows he was a key witness in the trial of Two Bear Sterns, as they give it during a...

• 2:18:41Speaker 06

  Yeah, but that came out in 2018.

• 2:18:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was 2018. Yeah, this isn't new.

• 2:18:45Speaker 06

  I'm with you. What just came out this past...

• 2:18:47Speaker 04

  Epstein definitely was. No, no, no, look at me.

• 2:18:51Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you mean? I don't know if he definitely, did you do research on this story? I didn't do research.

• 2:18:54Speaker 04

  They said he's an FBI informant.

• 2:18:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's they? And they've been saying that he was a Mossad agent for years, so maybe he could be both.

• 2:19:00Speaker 05

  I thought it was CIA.

• 2:19:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe he could be both.

• 2:19:01Speaker 05

  I didn't realize it was confirmed. It was FBI.

• 2:19:04Speaker 04

  Wasn't it confirmed? He was an FBI informant?

• 2:19:06Patrick Bet-David?

  The Daily Beast just did an article about it.

• 2:19:08Speaker 04

  It was not confirmed?

• 2:19:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know.

• 2:19:09Speaker 05

  I mean, there's literally no news article stating that.

• 2:19:13Speaker 04

  So, okay, so who came out with that? Former FBI?

• 2:19:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, listen, my, my, you know where I stand. So.

• 2:19:19Speaker 04

  Then my bad. I thought they came out with that.

• 2:19:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Those people are going to hell.

• 2:19:22Speaker 04

  Turns out I'm a victim of the fake news.

• 2:19:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, wait, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Just to be fair to Adam, a lot of people were saying that it came out that he was an FBI informant. The story came out a few days ago. So, but this has been, this has been popular since 2018, these claims have been made. Yeah. Mossad is when I had his brother on and we spoke, it was very fishy, Rob. You remember this when we had the two hour podcast with Mark Epstein?

• 2:19:44Speaker 04

  What was the fishy part?

• 2:19:45Patrick Bet-David?

  It's just, it's very obvious. There's something very weird going on with the connections and the support and the people that they had. But.

• 2:19:53Speaker 04

  I don't disagree with that, by the way. It just hasn't been concluded yet.

• 2:19:56Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you know, when, you know, when you think about certain people who joined the army, who was the football player that joined the military?

• 2:20:04Speaker 04

  Pat Tillman. Oh, Pat Tillman.

• 2:20:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Pat Tillman, right? And he leaves a multi-million dollar contract to go serve the military. And that epic picture, look at that. Just, that guy just looks like a soldier. Right? Look at that face. Right? You know what's gonna happen? I don't know who, and I don't know how and what the community is gonna be. If nothing comes out, there's gonna be some people that are gonna be running just on this. They're gonna be like, you know what? F it. I'm gonna go and run for office because I have to find out what's going on there. There's gonna be some people that'll do that. Who that is, I don't know. Because I don't know if that is in Trump's top five list. I don't know if it's in his top 10 list. I really don't think it is.

• 2:20:46Speaker 04

  I don't think it should be.

• 2:20:46Patrick Bet-David?

  He never ran on it. I don't think it's a top five or a top 10 list. I think it's something that some of his audience wants, just like the crypto community, the this community, the that community. But I don't know if it's on his top 10 list. We'll see. You know, Cash Patel is supposed to be the one that's like, hey, I'm telling you, Glenn Beck is here in two weeks. I'm telling you in two, I'm telling you in two weeks.

• 2:21:07Speaker 04

  10 days.

• 2:21:08Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. Got it. No problem. What happened? That thing went viral that day on X, nothing happened. But we'll see. We'll see what's gonna happen. Be patient.

• 2:21:16Speaker 05

  Nothing's gonna happen, man.

• 2:21:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Aggressive. You don't think nothing will happen?

• 2:21:19Speaker 05

  Zipper.

• 2:21:20Patrick Bet-David?

  The one thing that did happen, the one thing that did happen is we have a new idea for a shirt with Tom. Okay? It's a new shirt coming soon.

• 2:21:28Speaker 05

  Hide the sausage?

• 2:21:30Speaker 06

  Hide the salami?

• 2:21:31Speaker 05

  Oh, right.

• 2:21:32Speaker 06

  Hide the salami?

• 2:21:32Patrick Bet-David?

  With Tom's face on, it's like, hey, it's a new shirt, right? Instead of like biz doc, numbers, you know, scream, whatever. No, it's called the hide the...

• 2:21:40Speaker 06

  What can I say about this one?

• 2:21:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go for it.

• 2:21:41Speaker 06

  So guys, this shirt, Rob, do you put the collection up? So whoever spends the most on this collection, let me stand up for it, which is freaking hilarious, at St. Patrick's, but David, gets this. We're all gonna sign it, Julian, can you sign it with us?

• 2:21:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:21:53Speaker 06

  And we're gonna send it to your house and we're all gonna sign it right now.

• 2:21:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's all sign it for today's episode.

• 2:21:59Speaker 06

  You don't like this shirt. You don't like it. I think they should definitely buy it.

• 2:22:02Patrick Bet-David?

  The one with the face on, bro, like, if you wanna buy to keep it to tease me with it, do it. But the other ones, the green ones, those look sick. The future looks right.

• 2:22:10Speaker 06

  They look sick, yeah.

• 2:22:11Patrick Bet-David?

  They look sick. Matter of fact, I'll word myself on that day as well. Having said that, Rob, is Gary Brecker going tomorrow?

• 2:22:16Speaker 06

  Yes, sir. A link is in the description as well as in the chat. Tomorrow, 9 a.m.

• 2:22:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Tomorrow, right off the bat, we get into it. And he talked, we talked about a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff. So it's gonna be interesting. That'll go on tomorrow. Take care, everybody. Stay tuned, some big things are coming soon. God bless. Bye bye, bye bye.

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