DOGE Audits The Fed, Pam Bondi vs New York, Tulsi Gabbard Confirmed, JFK Two Shooters? | PBD Podcast | Ep. 547

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover Elon Musk calling out corrupt bureaucrats, Anna Paulina Luna's claims that JFK was killed by two shooters, and the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) taking on the Federal Reserve. ---- 🖥️ REGISTER FOR THE MINNECT CIRCLES ECONOMY: https://bit.ly/4hVTkPK 📺 VOTE ON TRUMP'S FIRST 100 DAYS:⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4gXLioq⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4gXLioq 👕 GET THE LATEST VT MERCH:⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY":⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 ⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS:⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright?

• 1:12Speaker 03

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here. You are a one of one? My son's right. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so episode 547, we got a big announcement to make here today. But before we do so, yesterday, we did a very... Rob, can we qualify that as a strange, unique podcast? Yes or no? Yes. Maybe one of the... Because maybe it's directly involved with my life and where I was raised at. But let me tell you who sat down with us yesterday. Yesterday, we had the founder of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, IRGC, the ones who have Hezbollah, ISIS, Hamas, Houthis. The founder, who was in the room helping Khomeini put it together. This man right here, the founder of it was yesterday, got very, very heated because he was a guy that was not a fan of what the Shah did.

• 2:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And he was also a guy who, his direct report, ended up killing the president and the prime minister of Iran at the time, while he was on the fourth floor of a building. They were on the first floor. That direct report came and dropped a bomb, killed him. And then he came back and said, the founder, he came back and he says, well, the guy is dead. The country had a funeral, millions of people mourning, and then afterwards, the country, we realized the guy was alive the entire time. You're gonna hear me when I ask him that question. We had a lot of other heated debates about population being brainwashed. Anyways, I'm excited about that one being released. It's very heated, very controversial. I think you'll enjoy it. Aside from that, there's a lot going on right now, obviously, that we'll be talking about.

• 2:49Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, these politicians, they're so funny. There's a clip I want to show you of Maxine Waters. Saying, "This is not fair. What they're doing is they're finding out what we're doing, and they're finding out what we're doing." I'm sorry, what? They're finding out what we're doing. That's exactly the point of Doge, and why they're trying to find out what you're doing. Because we want to know. That's what people voted for. Yesterday, I was on Fox Business, having a conversation with them. I said, "It's so funny, the fact that they don't mind hiring IRS agents to audit you." They don't mind coming and finding out what you're doing with that $600, what you're doing with that $300. They want that money for sure. They want to audit every one of you, because they don't trust you. But in return, we're supposed to trust that everything they're doing is good, and we don't have to worry about any of that stuff.

• 3:30Patrick Bet-David?

  No audited financials on every governmental institution on its way by these guys, and we're excited about it. We'll talk about some of the numbers here on what's coming up. Story here, Daily Mail, "Elon Musk vows to root out the highest-paid corrupt bureaucrats." MAGA head of JFK files task force claims, ready, there were two shooters. What? What? Now we find out 60-something years later, there were two shooters? Weird. Yeah, two shooters, right? California's insurance last resort runs out of money to pay LA fire claims. Wait till you find out who is running out of money and who they're coming to. They're gonna be coming, asking you for some money, so stay tuned. That's coming up here soon.

• 4:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Caruso claims that LA slams LA after Olympics construction delayed over fire. These guys may not be ready for the Olympics, by the way, just so you know that with all stuff that's taking place. Tulsi Gabbard sworn in congratulations tour as the director of national intelligence DNI. Trump speaks with Putin says negotiations to end war in Ukraine will begin immediately. Freed American hostage Mark Vogel lands in US after prisoner swap with Russia. Billionaire hedge fund guru wants Trump's tariffs are harmonious. And by the way, this billionaire guru is a supporter of Trump and you know who this man is. And he left the state Illinois, Chicago to move to the state of Florida, Miami, and you'll see why he's saying that. We'll talk about that.

• 4:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Donald Trump demands NCAA strip trans athletes of women's titles and wants the Olympics to adopt his transgender athlete ban, which by the way, we fully support. Borders are Tom Homan accuses FBI of leaking information to the ICE rates lives at risks is what he says, and he's not satisfied with the number of arrests. There's another story that comes out with the fact that I believe ICE was, where's the ICE wants you to know if people are posting negative things about them online. That's a little bit disturbing. We'll cover that as well. It's not just the good, it's gotta be the bad as well. DOGE slashes over $100 million in DI funding at education program win for every student.

• 5:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Elon Musk warns they want to audit the Federal Reserve and Jerome Powell pushes back and says the Fed is overworked, not over satisfied. Biden is the least popular living president as Trump enjoys near record favorability polls. Massachusetts City OK's sanctuary city status for transgender community. Francis Macron says plug, baby plug, probably not a phrase he should use amid push for nuclear powered AI. Another major company moves its headquarters from California to Texas and students half a grade behind pre pandemic levels in math reading study. It's funny, I was just sitting down this morning with my daughter, looking at her where she ranks on math against norm. And that was one of the things we were talking about.

• 6:21Patrick Bet-David?

  This next one, I got a clip I want to show you here in a minute of what Bill O'Reilly says. Your next DOG lawsuit against New York. Hoco Letitia James over immigration coming soon. And there's a whole different level to that story that we'll discuss. Having said that, let me give you the big announcement.

• 6:38Patrick Bet-David?

  March 4th, 3pm to 4pm, put it in your calendar. We're announcing a massive upgrade to Mynext. If you have not yet downloaded the app and used it. For some of you that are using the app, you know we're communicating on a regular basis. How much business is being done? A guy Mynext me six months ago saying, "Pat, I want to go out there and become a professional sports owner one day." I said, "Hey man, keep dreaming, that's good." "I used to dream as well." He says, "No, no, no, I'd like to do that now." I said, "What kind of money you got? Do you have cash?" He says, "I'm sitting on a hundred million dollars. My net worth's at three hundred million dollars." I said, "Let me introduce you to my guy." Introduced him to the guy. Six months later, he becomes a professional sports owner of the team that he wanted to get. And that was all because of Mynext. These are contacts, relationships that happen on Mynext.

• 7:24Patrick Bet-David?

  But on the 4th, we're introducing something called the Circle Economy. So imagine, all of you that are watching this, all of you that are curious about the stories, that like debate, that like these discussions, but you want to be able to communicate with the entire community of PBD Podcast in a circle, like you get to say, "Did you see this? Did you see that throughout the entire day?" That'll be launched and you'll get access to our notes that we're having on the podcast that we go through. Only people on the circles will have that. You'll get a behind the scenes stuff that we do and you'll get a chance to create your own circle, get compensated, will be recognized and rewarding. And on top of that, I'm announcing a contest. On that day, folks, we, every year, this is, this is, we got, we got the biggest suite at the Kentucky Derby. We were there last year. I took my kids, Dylan was going around spending time with everybody, making bets. It was a hilarious time.

• 8:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Spending my money too.

• 8:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Spending and making money as well. But it was a good time.

• 8:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Dylan the bookie.

• 8:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Dylan the bookie. We had a phenomenal time. We have the biggest suite on the fifth floor, right at the finish, when the race ends. They call it the most exciting two minutes in sports and we want to invite you to come and join us. These are not $5,000 seats, these are not $10,000 seats. But we want to invite you to come and join us and it's a contest tied to Mynext. Whatever you do, download the app, more importantly, get on your calendar.

• 8:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Put it in there for March 4th and go to this website that we have you, Rob. VTwebinar.com. Go to VTwebinar.com. Sign up now. This will be packed and we'll be making a lot of announcements. A lot of unique people will be on there talking about their circles as well. So having said that, I cannot wait to see you guys. March 4th, 3pm. Go to VTwebinar.com. Register, secure your spot because it will be a massive, especially for those of you that watch PBD Podcast. Look forward to seeing you there. Having said that, let's get right into it. Doge slashes over $100 million in DEI funding at Education Department. Win for every student.

• 9:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so this story's coming out and this is backed up by Trump wanting to go after Federal Reserve. But let me first read this to you here. Department of Education Efficiency Doge, led by Lamas, announced termination of 89 Department of Education contracts worth $881 million, including $101 million in diversity, equity, and inclusion funding. They canceled DI training programs aimed to help students understand and interrogate the complex histories involved in oppression and recognize areas of privilege and power. Musk reacted to the spending of stating your tax dollars were spent on this. Rob, do you have a clip on this, by the way? Is this it?

• 9:59Tom Ellsworth?

  This is, yes, Jesse Waters last night from Fox News kind of breaking down what they stripped from the Department of Education.

• 10:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 10:05Speaker 05

  The whole government's being audited. The Department of Education's being actively dismantled. The Dozers are in the building on the sixth floor cancelling grants and contracts. Nearly $1 billion of wasteful contracts were ripped up yesterday. Like this one. A contractor was paid $1.5 million to observe mailing and clerical operations at one mail center.

• 10:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you say $1.5 million?

• 10:32Speaker 05

  This guy was observing mail being opened and being sent for $1.5 mil. This is the kind of no-show job a mob boss gives their cousin. Doge also terminated 29 DEI training programs at the Department of Education, worth over a hundred million dollars.

• 10:50Patrick Bet-David?

  You can stop right now, Rob. It's the same thing I'm reading. By the way, one and a half million dollars is $750 an hour is what you're making. Let me say that again. $750 an hour. They're paying somebody to watch others do what they're doing. If the math breaks down to one and a half million a year. Tom, what do you know about what's going on here with Doge and them going after Department of Education?

• 11:10Tom Ellsworth?

  So the Department of Education has long been thought to be nothing more than an indoctrination lab. Like the things they're doing in Washington, they're pushing it out. It's like they're pushing policies out. Like you can see the, um, the things that they were talking about. And, you know, um, you know, Nick Neely praised the move and he was the, uh, education president. He said, "DEI was never about equity. It was about enforcing ideological things and institutionalizing them from the federal level down to the state. Shutting down the wasteful programs is a win for the student." So now, you know, you would send your kids to school and all of a sudden there's these things. Well, the federal government and therefore the school board is going to follow the federal government

• 11:52Tom Ellsworth?

  and we're going to do this and we're going to do that. And all of a sudden those books would show up that you're upset about. And so, wait a minute, you know, Sarah has two mommies and that's okay. And, and, and it's way worse than that. So what was happening is the Department of Education was not working to move test scores. Meaning to measure nation's youth to see is reading and math improving. The Department of Education was off that. Were they, uh, did they control certain things to standardize testing? Well, sure. They designated them, but they were out there pushing programs down. And the Department of Education was nothing more than a liberal think tank that was pushing policy down to our schools, which is why Trump and how many conservative governors

• 12:37Tom Ellsworth?

  are correctly pointing out, "Hey, if you want to help me, federal government sends monies to the states all the time for this or that. Send us the money and let us work on, you know, the schools and improving test scores." It's indoctrination. And now when you Rip off the cover of the budget and you expose the table of contents. It's exactly what we saw in Jesse Waters, exactly the things you've talked about, Pat. And it is nothing more than a programs coming from the federal government to change the minds of our youth. And guess what? It's not going to make a bit of difference in the education of them.

• 13:10Patrick Bet-David?

  By the, by the way, I want to say this, read this and then Vinnie, I'm going to, I'm going to come to you here. Watch this here, folks from the hill. Students half a grade behind pre pandemic levels in math, reading. This is study finds, okay? The 2025 education recovery scorecard. Found that the average student in 2024 remained nearly half a grade level behind pre pandemic achievement in math and reading. The study which analyzed. Data from 87 19 school districts across 43 states. Using national assessment of education programs, N A E P and the state results. Reported that no state scored higher on N A E P assessment in 2024. Than they did in 2019. That is insane. Not one state scored higher than they did in 2019.

• 13:52Patrick Bet-David?

  While 17% of students were in districts with mean math achievements above of, uh, above that of 2019. Only 6% of students in the districts where the scores have recovered in both subjects. Only 6% have recovered. The other 94 have not. The study revealed growing educational disparities. With highest income districts nearly four times more likely to have recovered in both. Subjects than the low income districts, the gap in math scores between high income and low income districts. Has grown by 11% since the start of the pandemic, while the gap between predominantly no, uh, non minority. And predominantly minority districts has grown by 15%. So the hill. Is not a conservative outlet. It's a liberal outlet.

• 14:38Patrick Bet-David?

  They're writing this, my feeling is the fact that they're trying to say. If they get rid of the Department of Education, this is even going to make it worse. That's what they're trying to claim, right? That's what they're trying to say. But even Bill Maher, when he was saying, I almost agree with everything Rahm Emanuel says. He says, there's a reason why this doesn't work. Kids are not getting better grades because of this. So the fact that they're. Them getting deeper to see where the hell is this money going? How are we holding these guys accountable to do better job with our students? I think that's a good thing. Vinny, your thoughts?

• 15:11Speaker 06

  Yeah, uh, well, uh, there's, there's a, there's a guy that told me to read this book called Outwitting the Devil by Napoleon Hill. His name is Patrick. You might, you might know him. And one of the main things that the book, Pat, and you could attest to this, was that traditional education system suppresses independent thinking and creativity in schools. They, they teach kids to conform, memorize and obey, then develop critical thinking and self reliance. So he claimed, you know, the education system is, is a tool to keep kids trapped. It keeps, and, and it doesn't surprise me that all this money and all this suppression. It's, there, there was two things. It was religion, how religion keeps everybody separated. And it was a school system. And just to take a step back, as Tom reminded me, think about what Fauci did, what they did with the pandemic and all the policies, Tom, that screwed over these same students.

• 15:52Tom Ellsworth?

  In public schools.

• 15:53Speaker 06

  In public schools. So it's like, a, a, and, oh, and again, this is just on top of the list, Pat, of all the other stuff where kids are the most neglected. There's a, a million of them missing from the border, 300,000 here, 200,000 here. They're the most neglected, but I think this type of situation is, is one of the best things, Pat, because they, they're exposing all these people for who they are.

• 16:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but by the way, if you, if your kid is over 12 years old, have them read Outwitting the Devil.

• 16:18Speaker 06

  Thousand percent.

• 16:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I had my son read Outwitting the Devil. Now my second son is reading Outwitting the Devil. And he's 11 years old. He's going to go through this book as well. It gives them the ability to think for themselves without being brainwashed. That's really what it is. Because there's a lot of brainwashing going on. Rob, how heated would you say the debate was yesterday about folks being brainwashed? And he says, I cannot believe you would think that two thirds of Iranian people would be brainwashed or turn against the Shah. And I'm like, what? What, what are you talking about? Brainwashing works. You, you, you know, I asked him a question. I said, let me ask you a question. You, you sound like somebody that probably believed, and by the way, the person I'm talking about is Mohsen Sazagadov, who was the former founder. He was the founder of the IRGC, Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps,

• 17:04Patrick Bet-David?

  was here yesterday for two and a half hour podcast. Never done this before. I said, let me ask you a question. I said, you claim brainwashing doesn't work? No, you can't brainwash more than half the populace. I said, really? Did you believe in the Russia collusion that Trump was tied to it? He couldn't answer for three seconds. He says, well, I read two books and one of the books said the fact that. You know, etc., etc. I said, really? I said, Rob, can you pull up a number on what percentage of Americans believe that Trump was tied to Russia collusion? Remember when you pulled up that study, Rob? Over half of Americans believe. Over 50 brainwash. Brainwashing works. Hundred percent. Especially when they start with kids early. Bingo. Tom, I know you have more thoughts on this.

• 17:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, this is also, you know, there were the states. So every state had the issue, meaning in every single state, when you took those poor kids out of classrooms.

• 17:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 17:52Tom Ellsworth?

  And the, and the public schools didn't have as much resources for Zoom and things like this to have the kids at home. Uh, my girls were, and, and your kids were on Zoom and I forced them to be on it. I made sure they kept reading and they stayed on it. Not every parent was doing that. And then the public schools is where it hit the hardest.

• 18:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 18:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Cause they didn't, and, and, and plus you had teachers saying, well, I'm working from home and I'm wearing a mask, you know, uh, 25 hours a day and I'm not going to do this. All of that thinking, these poor kids at the public school level, that's why this report is called the education recovery scorecard.

• 18:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 18:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Looking at things post pandemic. But you know what? Government never met something, didn't want to manipulate. And I think, Pat, you made the best point of the, of the last 10 minutes here. The Hill is, is trying to build the case and I, I'm just going to wait. I mean, you, you predicted that they would be trying to pit Elon Musk and Trump against each other. I, I, I'm going to follow your lead here and I predict we're going to start seeing, uh, stories that say Trump is impeding kids' ability to recover from COVID. They're going to admit the kids had a problem with COVID and Trump is impeding their ability to recover because he closed down the Department of Education. Because I believe you're exactly right, your observation. I hadn't thought that way and, and I, I believe you're right.

• 19:13Tom Ellsworth?

  They're running this story to plant the seed to blame Trump when really what this story proves is that the public school kids were, were messed up the worst by COVID.

• 19:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me read this next story and then Adam is officially here. Adam, I'm going to come to you. So Elon Musk warns Federal Reserve may face a Doge audit.

• 19:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Elon Musk is wanting to go after Federal Reserve next. He signaled that the Federal Reserve could face an audit by those stating all aspects of the government must be fully transparent accountable to the people, no exceptions, including if not especially the Federal Reserve. Musk has long criticized the central bank, calling its workforce bloated and questioning its monetary policy decisions. Musk previously claimed that the Fed has a crazy high number of employees and criticized its handling of interest rates, stating in August that the Fed needs to drop rates and has been foolish not to have done so. Already, the Federal Reserve later cut rates in September, followed by additional cuts in November and December. Fed Chair Jerome Powell dismissed Musk's claim that the central bank is

• 20:13Patrick Bet-David?

  absurdly overstaffed, stating, "We run a very careful budget process and we're fully aware we owe that to the public and we believe we do that." Rob, I think you got a clip of Jerome Powell, if you don't mind playing. Here's Jerome Powell.

• 20:26Speaker 07

  The Fed is overstaffed?

• 20:29Speaker 06

  No, I would say that, you know, overworked maybe, not overstaffed. Everybody at the Fed works really hard. It's a place where people work.

• 20:38Speaker 07

  A lot of this conversation right now about staffing numbers at different departments, agencies, you know, it's going back to this sense of the taxpayer dollar, you know, in terms of accountability there. But I guess I just wanted to ask you, is the Fed paid for by the taxpayer dollars? Can you explain to us what the burden is on the taxpayer?

• 20:55Speaker 06

  So we're self-funding through our large balance sheet.

• 21:00Speaker 07

  So when it comes to the staffing at the Federal Reserve, not coming from the taxpayers, is that right?

• 21:05Speaker 06

  You know, indirectly, so we give away all of our profits, we give back to Treasury and those profits would be higher if we didn't pay for the Fed. So in fairness, it does ultimately come, it's ultimately paid for.

• 21:18Patrick Bet-David?

  What does that mean?

• 21:20Speaker 06

  In that sense, we're self-funded.

• 21:21Speaker 07

  Self-funded. Just one last question here. You talked about the different actors that are involved when it comes to levying tariffs in terms of paying that the exporter, the importer, the consumers, that middlemen could be part of that. I guess I just wanted to ask you, do you know of any way in which to 100% guarantee that the consumers will not have to pay higher costs when it comes to tariffs?

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• 22:43Speaker 06

  Not really. It's not going to be easy to identify with any accuracy exactly where costs do fall, but I think it'd be hard to guarantee any particular outcome. I think we're just going to have to see.

• 22:55Speaker 07

  Great, thank you.

• 22:56Patrick Bet-David?

  So, by the way, they have, the Federal Reserve has roughly 23,974 employees and their operations are primarily funded by the interest they make off the securities they own. Okay, so that's kind of what he's talking about, where the additional money is being sent back to the Treasury. But Adam, your thoughts on this story?

• 23:18Speaker 06

  Well, I don't think it's any secret that Jerome Powell and Trump have had a longstanding beef. I believe that Trump, when he was in his first term in 2016, 17, he would basically demand that Jerome Powell would lower the interest rates. Jerome Powell wouldn't do it. He was sort of immune from Trump's criticism. I believe Jerome Powell's tenure at the Fed is up in 2026. Like Trump appointed him, I believe, in 2016. And it's, can you believe it's in 10 years later? And I think his term is coming up, but... Look, I think overall, if you had to give a grade to what Jerome Powell has done, I would say B+, A-, I would not say that he's done a bad job.

• 24:00Speaker 06

  The whole premise is the Fed should be immune from presidential directives and basically, what, I mean, if Trump might feel a certain way and then all of a sudden he feels a certain way the next day, he's sort of holding down a steady ship and I think he's doing a pretty decent job. We've gone through COVID.

• 24:15Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but what do you think about, what do you think about Elon talking about accountability?

• 24:21Speaker 06

  So as far as Elon goes, you know who can get it? Anybody can get it. I feel like every single institution, every single part of government should not be immune from going through this. You know how Santa has his, has his list? Is naughty and nice list and he's checking his list and he's checking it twice? Every single part of government should be checked and double-checked line by line.

• 24:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And what if they're independent and taxpayers are not paying for it? What if, what if there's a level of independence? Tom, do you think Doge, Doge has the jurisdiction to audit Federal Reserve or do you think that's a little bit of, because of the way the money's being made, it's gotta be a different level of accountability?

• 25:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I, I think Doge has the authority and a lot of people say, well, Federal Reserve's really the fourth branch of government and they're somewhat autonomous. I mean, we've, we've heard that dating back forever. Well, when Jerome Powell says, I think we run a very efficient operation, I think people are working very hard. Okay, maybe that's true. That's, okay, let's say it's true. But the best-run public companies still by law have to have an audit every year. If you're on the stock market, you have to have an audit, you have to publish your quarterly reports and even the best-run public companies find opportunities to improve. So the, the don't bother me part of this, and that's not exactly

• 25:42Tom Ellsworth?

  what he's saying, but it is what he means, is I disagree with very strongly. I think Doge has the ability to audit and I think they should audit. Even the most best-run companies have an audit every year, so why shouldn't the Federal Reserve, especially with 23,000 employees? And by the way, I'd like to say something about what Powell said. Did you hear him at the end? He said, well, it's not, it's, it's not easy to identify with any accuracy where costs in the economy come from. You hear that? Yet there's headlines out there saying Trump is causing inflation. So, maybe Jen Psaki should go work for the Fed. Apparently she's figured it out. Whereas the Fed themselves are saying, man, it's not easy to identify the accuracy where these

• 26:23Tom Ellsworth?

  costs are coming from. It's a little early. So, A, I, I, I think Doge has the authority and I think they should.

• 26:29Speaker 06

  Didn't we just show a video on Tuesday of Ben Bernanke not knowing where a half a trillion dollars went?

• 26:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Yup.

• 26:35Speaker 06

  And wasn't he the chairman of the Fed right before Janet Yellen, who was the chairman of the Fed right before Jerome Powell? So, listen, the whole premise of the Doge Department of Government Efficiency is Accountability. And open up your books.

• 26:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I get that. I'm just trying to see, Rob, can you do me a favor? Go on Google or do you have ChatGPT if you got it?

• 26:56Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 26:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Go on that and ask the question, does Doge have the jurisdiction to audit the Federal Reserve? Does Doge have the jurisdiction to audit the Federal Reserve?

• 27:07Speaker 06

  Rob, you're a fantastic typer, by the way.

• 27:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, let's see here. Okay, zoom in a little bit. No, Doge does not have the jurisdiction. Federal Reserve independently under the US government is audit primarily conducted by the GAO, Government Accountability Office, which can audit certain aspects of the Fed, but is restricted from auditing monetary policy. The Federal Reserve's own Inspector General, IG, conducts the internal audit, which is pathetic.

• 27:31Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 27:31Patrick Bet-David?

  External independent auditors who review the financial statements. Okay, so wouldn't Doge be an external, well, independent is what it is, of the Federal Reserve? It is independent of the Federal Reserve. If you mean Doge in reference to something else like, no, I'm talking about the Department of Government Efficiency. Okay.

• 27:47Speaker 06

  Who do you think should audit?

• 27:48Patrick Bet-David?

  So then who does GAO, the Government Accountability Office, who has that? Who, who controls? Who does GAO report to? Who does GAO report to? The Government Accountability Office reports directly to Congress. GAO is independent, partisan, it's Congress's agency, but sometimes it's control of, you know, to at least the GAO president 15 year. Okay, so then, by the way, no, the only reason I'm looking at this is because if you, I want that to happen.

• 28:14Speaker 06

  Me too.

• 28:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I'd like to see it. But you need to go through, I remember when Vivek was first getting started, he was saying a lot of this stuff that we can't do ourselves, that we have to go through Congress. This is what Vivek was talking about, that they're gonna need some of these areas, they need Congress's help to be able to do that. Tom, am I, am I spot on? Am I on track here with what I'm talking about?

• 28:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Absolutely. And as a matter of fact, you know, there's something that impresses me here and I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw, you know, a golden thank you in your direction. You were always trying to educate everyone at PHP at the big conferences. You had people that would come in from different things. We had, you know, politicians came in and talk. It was Santorum came there one year. But the year before, you had a comptroller general of the United States.

• 28:56Patrick Bet-David?

  David Walker.

• 28:56Tom Ellsworth?

  David Walker came and talked. And so you've tried to educate this. But the way I read this is David Walker, you know, is appointed by the president. So in other words, Congress, the GAO may report to Congress, but the comptroller is appointed by the president. What it just said there, right? So there's how, there's like the check and balance of our government, right? That, okay, Congress will, you know, is the power of the purse and the GAO reports to Congress. But over here, the president will report, will appoint the comptroller general who leads it. And that's part of our checks and balances. So I think when you peel this back, there is purview for Doge on the Federal Reserve.

• 29:41Tom Ellsworth?

  It may not be literal, you report to me, but I think there's a clear path here for auditing.

• 29:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I, but I don't think it can go through Doge is what I'm trying to say. I think there's a part of it, a part of it where for Elon is, and he's, he's, he's pulling it off right now. Help working with Trump is, okay, there's certain things as a doer that you're going to get done because you know, you're controlling. You trust your instincts, right? Trusting your instincts and intuition, most people don't have a high score on that. Okay. Elon's got a high score in that area, instincts and intuition. Great. This area, even if it's high instinct, high institution, high intuition, you still need Congress. You're going to need to go sell Congress on this idea. And I don't know what percentage you need. I don't know how it's going to work out to be able to get it done.

• 30:30Patrick Bet-David?

  But I would want to do an audit and find out what's going on with Federal Reserve. By the way, Rob, do you have a clip of what happened this last week with President Trump and Elon Musk being in the office with his son? And?

• 30:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Not this one, just when they're talking to each other. If you have the clip of them together in an office, not this one, Rob. There's one where, you know, Musk is there, President Trump is sitting down, while he's sitting down, Musk is behind him speaking and his son is kind of running around doing this thing. And you watched the press conference, you saw the exchange between the two of them. Rob, if you got the clip, I'd like to show it. If you go on Twitter, just type in Musk and Trump press conference, Musk and Trump press conference, press conference.

• 31:12Speaker 06

  It went for like 30, 45 minutes?

• 31:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 31:14Speaker 06

  It was long.

• 31:15Patrick Bet-David?

  That's kind of what it looked like, okay? If you want to, you know, is there a highlight of it?

• 31:19Speaker 06

  Yeah, let me find one.

• 31:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, if you go to, uh, uh, pick the shortest one you got.

• 31:28Speaker 06

  109, right here.

• 31:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for, go for with that one, go ahead. So here's Trump and Musk.

• 31:32Speaker 06

  We need to free the builders of America to build. And if we do that, that means, I think, we get the economic growth to be maybe 3%, 4%, maybe 5%. And that means if you can get a trillion dollars of economic growth and you cut the budget deficit by a trillion, between now and next year, there is no inflation. There's no inflation in 26.

• 31:54Patrick Bet-David?

  So you can pause this, you can pause this. I mean, you watch the whole thing, right? Your thoughts on this exchange between Musk and Trump and the son being there running around picking his nose?

• 32:03Speaker 06

  It's kind of, it's kind of weird because, I mean, obviously, Trump doesn't have any little kids, but for Elon, and by the way, I love it, I love that he's proud that he's a freaking father, he has how many, 11? 11 of them? And the kid was having fun picking his nose. I don't know, I think he might have been talking to a reporter going, "You shut, shut your mouth." It was funny, it was cute, but the dynamic between them, Pat, was very, very interesting because Trump is sitting there and he's saying, you know, "All right, Elon, go ahead." And Elon was answering a lot of freaking questions and he was going in-depth. It was long, but I felt the uncomfortableness of Trump because Trump, when they're in there, he's the talker, Pat. He's the one that's in there. But it was, it was an interesting dynamic because he let Elon go, but like, I mean, as you

• 32:45Speaker 06

  guys saw, Elon's there and Trump is just kind of, you know, waiting to talk, which was kind of awkward, but it's undeniable The stuff that Elon was saying and and the exposure exposure of everybody and all these things, even though they were trying to fight back, like when they said about the um, uh, what was it? How many millions of dollars, fifty million dollars for condoms um in Gaza, something like that?

• 33:08Tom Ellsworth?

  And he goes, that's a lot of condoms.

• 33:09Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, it was a lot of, but then they're like, you know, it was false reporting because it went to somewhere in Africa. And he's like, what does it matter where the fifty million dollars went to Gaza or or Zimbabwe? Where was it? Was it Zimbabwe, Robbie?

• 33:21Tom Ellsworth?

  If it left the US when people in North Carolina are suffering from a hurricane.

• 33:25Speaker 06

  Exactly. So it was it was interesting. It was long. I think, I mean, if you're having your kid in the, like, he's picking his nose, he's acting crazy. I mean, I think it's a kind of a distraction. I know that you love your kid, but that that is something serious.

• 33:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I I think you can, uh, Rob, play this clip, uh, this picture here that you see Kennedy with his son. And you see, uh, uh.

• 33:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Was this under the the desk with the little door?

• 33:51Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a legendary picture, Rob. I just sent to you. It's the picture of a history photograph. These guys do a phenomenal job. Um, yeah, right there. If you if you go to the tweet, not this one, Rob. It's actually a tweet. I send you the tweet if you can go to the tweet. Uh, yeah, right there. Okay. So they put it right next to each other, right? So you see Kennedy on the left, but then there's Trump, not with his son.

• 34:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly.

• 34:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump with Musk's son. So I don't know. I don't know about the fact that, and by the way, what is the clip that you're talking about? Shut your mouth. Can you play one of those two clips, Rob? I think there's a you. You just literally had two of them up. Yeah, do do one of them first and then do the other angle because I think you got two of them. Do the other one first.

• 34:29Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 34:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You have both of them right up there, right there. Play this clip.

• 34:33Speaker 03

  Prices from one year to the next are the same and they're and they're.

• 34:40Speaker 06

  Is he talking to the reporter?

• 34:42Patrick Bet-David?

  No, his eyes are not directly to Trump.

• 34:44Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's it's to the reporter.

• 34:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to the other one that you have. Go to the other one and get zoom this in. Go ahead.

• 34:50Speaker 03

  And the prices from one year to the next are the same?

• 34:55Speaker 06

  And they're, and they're. He doesn't like the media, Pat.

• 34:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so, you know.

• 35:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Thirty-four minutes, Trump sitting, Musk standing up.

• 35:05Speaker 06

  Yes. But, but, but, if you watch the, if, if whoever's gonna be out there to watch the clip, he is saying at the pleasure of the president, and he, I mean, he's giving all the right credit. I just felt as, when Trump's in the room, you know this, he's the talker. He's the guy. There's cameras, it's him talking. It was very, very interesting to see him literally give the baton to Elon and let him go. And you already know what happened in the media, like, oh, he should be sitting in the chair, he's the president. I don't think it's getting to Trump, but you could feel that it was a little bit awkward, and it doesn't help when there's a kid picking his nose and telling the media.

• 35:40Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about it, Tom? What do you think about it?

• 35:41Tom Ellsworth?

  So, I, I, I thought at that moment, that wasn't the place to have, to have a child there with you. You're, you're talking about the economy of the United States, you're talking about things that are going forward. You know, I appreciate that Elon takes X everywhere, but that's not the place for a kid. It's distracting for exactly this reason, when important points are being made. First, second, they have set up the Oval Office almost like a permanent press conference. Have you seen the wide shots of everybody there?

• 36:06Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 36:07Tom Ellsworth?

  They got tripods, little extension cords, seats, a little riser in the back. So they have set this up like a permanent press conference place. And this, I think, is not the place for this. I don't think this is the stage for this. I think the president at the Resolute Desk speaks for himself, for the country, and sets vision. I would have preferred to see this, you know, the long cabinet table?

• 36:29Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 36:29Tom Ellsworth?

  That they have, and then the president will be there and others will be speaking. Well, I'm here with Defense Secretary John, why don't you tell them what we talked about? And then the president's sort of at a meeting, allowing his staff to speak. I think that's a, a better look for this, and so, you know.

• 36:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, your thoughts?

• 36:45Speaker 06

  That's what I thought. I frickin' love it. I mean, are you kidding me? I mean, this, the, the, the days of doing business as usual are officially over. Look, we're thirty-seven trillion dollars in debt, we're running a two trillion dollar annual deficit, and we just can't continue to do things we've always done. Thank God, we have someone. Like Trump that comes in, he's like, you know what? F you, F you, F you. You're cool Elon, you can stay. Let's figure this thing out. We gotta get efficient, we gotta get accountable. We gotta get proficient. What we're doing in this country, whether it's from a cultural standpoint, from an economic standpoint, from an immigration standpoint, Trump has a mandate to clean this mess up. And you're talking to somebody who's, who basically fell for the Russia, Russia, Russia stuff.

• 37:30Speaker 06

  Who fell for the grab them by the uh stuff. Now I want him to grab everybody by the blank and clean up this damn, this damn country. So, special interest groups in, in Washington, you can get it. Lobbyists, you can get it. Everyone that's just sucking at the teat of DC, you can get it. How many of the top 10 counties in the country are richest country, counties in the country are around the DMV area? I think 5 out of 10. You've done that, you've done a whole breakdown about how basically anyone near Washington DC is fricking rich in the DMV area, DC, Maryland, Virginia.

• 38:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm with all of that.

• 38:05Speaker 06

  Enough's enough.

• 38:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm, I'm with all of that. I'll give you a basic etiquette for me, okay? The basic etiquette for me is, is Musk, I don't, I don't have a problem with you having your kids everywhere that you go, all this other stuff. If President Trump said it's okay, then it's his call, okay? If President Trump says it's okay, he said it's okay, right? But,

• 38:31Patrick Bet-David?

  if President Trump's grandkids are there, I don't have a problem with that. He's the president, okay? There's gotta be a little bit of etiquette in this setting. They can be anywhere else, press conference, behind that desk, in the Oval Office that is sacred. And it's kept for President and his kids. This is me. You can call it traditional, you can call it whatever you want, that's the only thing I'm saying right here. This is not a, a big deal. All I'm saying is when something like that is happening, um, I think anywhere else in the world that can happen, I don't care if kids are, I actually love the fact that kids, I love seeing Elon with his son on his back. I love doing that with Senna. I have a picture, my, my, the only picture I've never changed on my phone is, it's been the same picture.

• 39:15Patrick Bet-David?

  It's fight over whose pictures on the phone. It's been the same picture of me and Senna since she was two years old. She's eight years old right now. This picture's never changed, okay, on my phone. I love, this is when I used to walk her in Plano around our community, she would fall asleep on my head. And she would put her head like this on her hands and she would fall asleep. It was the best when I would do that with her. But Oval Office, if the president said, no problem, fine. But if the president, deep down inside, wouldn't want that, it needs to be a little bit more protection for. And you gotta kind of stand on the side of the table, not behind it. You gotta stand a little bit to the side of the table when they're speaking and standing all of that.

• 39:54Speaker 06

  Can I tell you one of the things that I actually love what you do? And I understand the, you know, tradition and respect and obviously with that. But like, when you interviewed Shaq, you had Dylan on stage with you.

• 40:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 40:05Speaker 06

  And that was amazing. I mean, he calls him Uncle Shaq. Even at the, um, at the, uh, election event, you had Dylan on stage with you there. There's, there's something human about, especially when you bring your kids, even when he brings his kids.

• 40:17Patrick Bet-David?

  There's one room in the world.

• 40:19Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 40:19Patrick Bet-David?

  There's one room in the world that's super sacred, and that's this room. And this room has to be protecting of the man sitting behind that shit, like that shit right there.

• 40:29Speaker 06

  Mm-hmm.

• 40:29Patrick Bet-David?

  There's gotta be respect for that shit. That's all I'm saying. And by the way, Elon's given respect. He's standing on the side, it's good, but, uh, just something to think about.

• 40:36Speaker 06

  If he was behind him massaging or something like that, that'd be a little awkward.

• 40:38Patrick Bet-David?

  No. Uh, and you know why I'm saying this? Don't give the media more

• 40:44Speaker 06

  Ammunition.

• 40:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Things to talk about.

• 40:46Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 40:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't give it to them. They're gonna find already plenty of stuff. Don't give them any additional things to be talking about. Anyways, okay, so let's go to the next story of what we have here. California, California's insurer of last resort runs out of money to pay LA's fire claims. Okay.

• 41:08Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's see this here. California's insurance last resort, the fair plan has run out of money to cover claims from devastating LA fires and will receive a billion dollar bailout. By the way, the fair plan, you know, the fair plan that's supposed to take care of all these guys? It ran out of money and needs a bailout of a billion dollars. State regulators announced Tuesday, the fire destroyed roughly 6,800 structures in Pacific Palisades and 9,400 in Altadena, leaving homeowners who could not get private insurance dependent on fare. To date, the plan has paid 914 million dollars in claims with more expected. California's insurance commissioner Ricardo Lara approved a billion dollar assessment on insurance companies that operate in the state, allowing insurance to pass some of

• 41:53Patrick Bet-David?

  the costs on to policy holders, potentially raising homeowners insurance price statewide. Tom, your thoughts on the story?

• 41:59Tom Ellsworth?

  This pisses me off at a high, high level because if you read that last sentence, Commissioner Ricardo Lara approved a one billion assessment. There's two things here. America, we're sending a billion dollars to California to help bail out the fair plan because of poor forestry management, old equipment and PG&E that would spark and start fires, poor management of reservoirs, poor water management, poor funding of fire departments, all of which caused this, even if it was a natural start of the fire during fire season, all of it caused it to be worse and to be the incredible tragedy, the unprecedented record-setting tragedy. And a billion dollar bailout, guess where it's going to come from?

• 42:40Tom Ellsworth?

  It's going to come via FEMA and it's going to come back to California because the states don't run permanent deficits. They have to find a way and that's when they reach out for government grants and government money to do that. The second thing he did, because there's two billion, that's the first billion. The second billion, he approved a one billion dollar assessment on insurance companies. When the state of California puts an assessment on the insurance companies, Vinny, you know what that means they can do? They can pass that on to the subjects of the assessment. The policyholders in California. So you can take that billion and you can spread it across the policies next year. So for the people that manage to still have insurance from a carrier that manages to still be

• 43:22Tom Ellsworth?

  doing business in California, they're gonna have a rate increase so that the carriers can pay for this. This starts at the top with bad management of the forestry and the things that I talked about. And now you end up here, that's the upstream. It starts with Gavin Newsom, and then you end up all the way at the bottom, Gavin Newsom, asking the federal government for money, and then, and then changing the rules where it's been burnt down, telling people you can't rebuild your house, you're gonna have to build low-income housing. This is the biggest screw job on property owners, whether you lost your company, you lost your house, or you're still in the state and gonna have rates go up even higher.

• 44:03Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's how this works. So here's how this works, okay? Vinny, imagine if you are very irresponsible with your finances.

• 44:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 44:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay? So you go ask, you go ask your mom for money to bail you out, because you don't wanna go to your dad. Great. Then you go and ask your dad for money. Then they bail you out. Then after they bail you out, you go back again. You go back again. You depleted their savings. They're done. Then you go to your siblings. Then you go to your next brother. Then you go to the next sister. You're asking everybody for money because you are irresponsible. Then you keep coming back to mom. Then you keep coming back, and then all of a sudden, you hate everybody, because they're not paying you anymore. Now you don't wanna talk to them, because they're like, "Well, you know, you didn't bail me out, you didn't bail me out, you didn't bail me out."

• 44:57Patrick Bet-David?

  You just stole half of your dad's money, your mom's money, because you've been begging them for so much money. That's what California is doing. So first, they're like, "No, California's a great state, everybody moves to California. We have the best weather, we have the best, everybody moves to California." Then people start creating jobs and all this stuff, "Oh my God, start making money." Then they start raising taxes, gas tax, this, that, this tax, that tax. So now, "We're gonna put money into homeless, we're gonna fix homelessness, don't worry about it, 24 billion dollars is missing." Then you go to homeowners insurance. Well, homeowners insurance, how about these other insurance companies come here and compete? And whatever the market is, let them do it. "Oh, you know what? We're starting to pay a lot of money in California, year over, year over, year."

• 45:34Patrick Bet-David?

  The state of California becomes a red flag, red alert, and every board meeting of top homeowners, insurance companies nationwide, they're like, dude, we gotta do something about California. Raise the rates. Oh, regulators in California came and said you can't raise the rates above this price. Then what are we supposed to do? Oh, by the way, they're forcing you right now. If you want to be able to get this business, you're forced to participate in this fair act, fair plan, to insure these companies and you're gonna take a percentage of the risk. Wait a minute, I can't do that. This is what we're gonna do. The government's here to always take care of you. And now California is coming back and saying, hey, we forced the insurance companies out. We forced them to do a fair plan. We forced them to do this because we said the government's gonna solve your problem. Hey, we failed miserably. Guess who we're coming back to? You.

• 46:15Speaker 06

  Oh, no.

• 46:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Taxpayers. You gotta help out California. And people are saying, no, I'm not gonna help you out anymore, bro. You can't handle yourself. You always wanna go to siblings or family or people for money. I'm not giving you money anymore. Get your act together when it comes down to money. So then there's a following out. All you care about is money. All you care about is money. California is saying that to all the other states and the government. But you're exposed eventually and it takes 10, 15 years, then everybody finds out you suck at handling money. That's what's going on with California. By the way, Rob, there's a clip I put in my notes, if you can pull this off. There's something going on right now with New York. Bill O'Reilly said something I think everybody should watch. I'm gonna play, I'm gonna first read this story, then I'm gonna go to this clip.

• 46:57Speaker 06

  Cuomo, Pat?

• 46:57Patrick Bet-David?

  It's unbelievable. Let me read this to you first. Here's what it is, okay? So the story is, uh, Rob, what page is that on? Let me see, five of the pages. Is it an addendum? It's not an addendum, okay. So you're next. DOJ files lawsuit against New York local Letitia James over immigration, okay? Uh, this is an NBC story. And here's what it looks like, okay? Attorney General Pam Bondi announced that the Department of Justice has filed a lawsuit against New York City local Attorney General Letitia James and the NBA Commissioner Mark Schroder, stating this is a new DOJ. Rob, if you have the clip of this first, then we'll go to Bill O'Reilly's. This is a new DOJ and we are taking steps to protect Americans. New York has chosen to prioritize

• 47:42Patrick Bet-David?

  illegal aliens. over American citizens that stops today the lawsuit challenges New York's green light law which allows undocumented immigrants to obtain driver's license and includes a provision requiring the DMV commissioner to notify them with that when a federal immigration agency request their information Bondi warns President Trump has directed this to stop and if you won't comply with federal law you will be held accountable we did to Illinois strike on a strike one strike two is New York and if you are a state not complying with federal law you are next get ready Pam Bondi stood alongside Tammy Nobles and Angel Mom is this them talking did I just pretty much read everything she said? Yes. Okay so don't worry about playing the clip so then he by the way she stands next to Tammy Nobles and Angel Mom whose 20 year old daughter was killed in Aberdeen Maryland

• 48:27Patrick Bet-David?

  in July 2022 by someone from El Salvador who entered the country illegally months earlier in Texas so that's this watch what Bill O'Reilly says on this whole thing and then he ties Newsom in California at the end just watch this three minute clip go ahead Rob.

• 48:46Speaker 03

  Trump wants to get Letitia James and Alvin Bragg that's what this story is all about nothing else there he went after Illinois because he wants to get Pritzker hates him and the way to do that is to deny the states of Illinois and New York the federal grant money the New York Post reports today eight billion dollars is going to get held up by the Justice Department that would have flowed into New York State which is running an astronomical deficit here okay so the easiest way to do this is to file civil suits against the governor

• 49:25Speaker 03

  and the Attorney General then the question was why is the mayor of New York left out because he doesn't matter he doesn't matter it Trump wants to get Letitia James Hocal is just an ornament doesn't have any bad feeling toward Hocal Trump but Adams the deal that was made I don't know what Adams is giving Trump I have to tell the audience upfront I don't know and I don't use anonymous sources but I had gotten call after call after call that said and all of these people have agenda. who are calling it. They all have agendas, alright?

• 50:09Speaker 03

  And they're saying that Adams knows where the bodies are buried.

• 50:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen.

• 50:16Speaker 03

  With James and Bragg.

• 50:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. Listen.

• 50:19Speaker 03

  Just throwing it out.

• 50:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep watching.

• 50:22Speaker 03

  For your consumption. I'm not reporting it to be true. But it kinda makes sense, right?

• 50:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, it's kinda weird that, like, you can say he has no power, but he's in charge of the city. And when they went after Pritzker in Illinois, they named Chicago, and they went after mayor. Yeah, I'm just saying, you know, if you're going after the city of Chicago, you named the mayor.

• 50:44Speaker 03

  No, Johnson and Adams had no power whatsoever, none. They do what they're told to do. The real power lies in the state legislature. Now, in both Illinois and New York, state legislature gives the big middle finger to homeland security. Because blank you, maybe Anderson Cooper could articulate it a little more than I am um, by using some vernacular.

• 51:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait for it.

• 51:07Speaker 03

  But that's what's happening. And the Trump administration knows that these mayors, I mean, these are, it, this is like the utility infielder on the New York Yankees who plays maybe three innings a week. These guys have no power. They do what they're told to do.

• 51:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, wait for it.

• 51:24Speaker 03

  The big power is Newsom in California, and Newsom's next. Hey Gavin, could they're coming for you. Pritzker's gonna get destroyed, and uh, Trump will bring down, and my, I'm gonna predict it here. He will bring down Letitia James and Alvin Bragg because they went on a crusade to destroy him. And President Trump is not a forgiving man.

• 51:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. What, what, how? Do you believe it?

• 51:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, I do. And I think what, what Bill O'Reilly has just done is, is gone past the headlines. One of the things I used to enjoy about Bill O'Reilly was the Talking Points memo. Cause I used to think it was very well thought out, and it was very articulate and specific, and would take you as a viewer down the path to see what he's talking about. He's right. He's calling the The mayors are ornaments. The real power is state legislature. The real thing is the governor. And so, he's going after them. I believe that they're right. And by the way, this is not a revenge campaign. This was judicial activism illegally using the power of the judiciary and the AG to go after

• 52:39Tom Ellsworth?

  a political opponent. The Biden administration was completely complicit, or it was one of the three. They either liked what was going on and didn't stop it. They instigated it, or they called the shot. You know, one way or the other, the Biden administration was right there with Letitia James. Do you think Letitia James files those suits if the Biden administration doesn't read it and say, "Yeah, I like it"? You know, wait a minute, the fifth count there, kind of moved it around a little bit. And Alvin Bragg, where he, remember we broke down? How he turned three counts into 14, or whatever it was? When he made, you know, every check was, "Oh, you wrote the check, you signed the check, you processed the check." And each step, he was claiming, was a misdemeanor grade three, which he rolled up to felony, low-level felony.

• 53:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, guess what? That's, you know, you can't do that. That's militarizing the Justice Department, and guess what? It's illegal.

• 53:31Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 53:32Tom Ellsworth?

  And they're gonna find out what they did was complicit, was conspiratorial, and in my opinion, that's what's gonna happen here. And what Bill O'Reilly is unpacking is how the, what is the method that's gonna go? And Pam Bondi, let me tell ya...

• 53:47Speaker 06

  She means business.

• 53:48Tom Ellsworth?

  She means business. She might as, you might as well play the Darth Vader music.

• 53:52Speaker 06

  I love, I love it.

• 53:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Because she's coming for it. Because what these people did is they crossed the line.

• 53:59Speaker 06

  And I think why they did it is because they thought, Tom, they thought that this plan, that the entire left, the deep, whatever the hell you wanna call them, it was all gonna work. Let's try to destroy him, let's try to say he was, you know, the R-word, I don't even wanna say it, that he did it with that crazy, what was that crazy girl's name? The, the blonde chick that told Anderson Cooper that she thought rape was?

• 54:20Tom Ellsworth?

  E. Jean Carroll?

• 54:20Speaker 06

  E. Jean Carroll. All that, the Stormy Daniels, everything. Tom, if you're going all in as a prosecutor and... As a IG, you were promised like, hey, listen, we're gonna win, we're gonna destroy him. There's no way he's gonna win. And then there's an assassination attempt failed. They thought that they that they they thought either Biden or Kamala was gonna be president right now. And that they were gonna be fine. They had no idea that he was gonna win. They went all in. And I this makes me so freaking happy. I hope it doesn't stop with them. It doesn't stop with Newsom. And Fauci, I know the states are gonna be going after him. It's accountability time. And we who have been behind this freaking movement for nine years, we deserve it and I want to see it.

• 54:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you remember the liberal media would sit there and say, do you think, is he going to prison? Is he going to prison? And they'd be up there talking to each other with orgasmic glee. You know, that they just couldn't wait for him to be there. Well, when it when he's sentenced, when he goes. And you would hear that word goes. And what they were, they were thinking that he was gonna be in prison.

• 55:17Speaker 06

  Or dead, Tom.

• 55:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Some of those people you mentioned are the corner loan shark. He's going after Capone.

• 55:23Speaker 06

  Yes. A lot of people think that Trump, you know, after he got shot, he sort of found Jesus and found God. He's become more religious. I actually think it's something a little bit different than I think. He's on his almost Gladiator, Maximus Decimus Meridius revenge tour. And he's just gonna make everybody pay. I don't think this has to do with like, I have a second chance on life. And let me get closer to God and let me do all the right things. I think he's completely, and I mean this in a positive way, vindictive and wants to vindicate himself from everything that happened. I feel like he watched the movie Gladiator and it basically was like, my name is Donald Trump, Decimus Meridius.

• 56:04Speaker 06

  Commander of the legions of the of the north and the true servant of the true emperor Marcus Aurelius. And husband to a murdered wife, father to a murdered son, and I'll have my vengeance in this life or the next. And I feel like he's just going after. And and and you know what, Bat? Rightly so. I mean, think about, think about what he's gone through for the past almost nine years. From Obama and all those, you know, deep state spying on him and Russia collusion and the impeachments and all like. I'm that's just three of them. There's so many. of them, he deserves it. And I know people are like, well, he shouldn't be and he should be above it. No, no, no, no, no, no. You tried to destroy him and it's retribution time. It's payback. He could do and people are like, he should be worried about running the country. No, no.

• 56:48Speaker 06

  He's running it just fine, but you know what? Now he's gonna go back and turn around and be like, you tried to destroy me. You tried to destroy me. You used lawfare and he's going after everybody. And it makes me feel good that he not, he wasn't just talking about it. He promised it and he's doing it.

• 57:02Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way. It's justice and they're scared. But let me just say this to you guys. Let me just say this to you. I cannot tell you how monumental November 5th was. Because if Kamala would have won. None of this stuff would have happened. Rob, can you go to YouTube? I'm gonna send you this clip. If Kamala would have won, you would have heard things like this. This is a clip of, if you go and type on Letitia James on YouTube. Okay, and then type on the top right filter, views. Go to Letitia James and then click filter, go to views. Okay, and just watch the second one. That's from a year ago, three and a half million views. Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

• 57:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you put the audio? Yes, play this clip. Watch this one. This is a year ago. Oh, shoot, bro. Yeah, it's fine. Just, just.

• 57:56Speaker 03

  Called me venomous. He's called me disgraceful. He's called me radical.

• 58:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 58:01Speaker 03

  He's called me a racist and this is only week three. None of his behavior, which can best be described as performative, will change what's happening in the courtroom. The courtroom, as you know, where we have submitted evidence and the evidence is clear. And that is he inflated his statements of financial interests to enrich himself and his family.

• 58:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Biden?

• 58:25Speaker 03

  And nothing will change that. Not the attacks on me or anyone.

• 58:28Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause this. When you go back and look at the highlight reel, when she first came out and she says, we are announcing a lawsuit against Trump. There's, Rob, if you find some of these and we remember when we watched this and how they were like, we are not gonna stop until dot, dot, dot and pa, pa, pa and everybody is watching this stuff, right? If Kamala Harris wins. Every one of these things would have been pursued and they would have convinced the populace that he is a criminal, he is this, he is that, they would have not stopped till the very end because they would have controlled it all. Look, look at the way she's speaking here. People forget, this, this wasn't too long ago. Go ahead, Rob.

• 59:10Speaker 03

  Comprehensive, three-year investigation by my office, including witnesses, interviews with more than sixty-five witnesses and review of millions of documents that were submitted by Mr. Trump and others. I am announcing that today, we are filing a lawsuit against Donald Trump.

• 59:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause. This is all the stuff we were watching. No, I'm telling you, Vinny, I'm telling you, if Kamala would have won, this is a very different America, this is a very different country, this is a very different climate. If Kamala would have won, Google and Facebook are not giving the million dollars to Trump and all that other stuff. Of course not. If Kamala would have won, the climate would be very, very different. That's why November 5th, every single person, from the smallest, you know, guy that sat there talking to their cousins and brothers and all that stuff, Adam, stop, to the people that are running the podcast, to others that are doing whatever they did

• 1:00:09Patrick Bet-David?

  to get November 5th, you went out there and stood in line for a few hours to vote, every one of those people, you, I can't, you have to be so proud of yourself because we were about to witness a shit show for four years. Life was going to be very, very different. There would have been no accountability. And so then we would have waited till 2028, which most likely the establishment Republicans wouldn't have been behind Trump. Nope. Because they would have said at this point, you can't win, you already tried twice, back to back, and that argument would have convinced people to step away from him. The fact that this took place and this is happening, this is great for America, for us to find out what really happened, who was playing games, everybody just wants simple accountability.

• 1:00:52Patrick Bet-David?

  That's really all it is. Very happy to see what they're doing here and I thought, you know, Bill O'Reilly's breakdown was spot on. Let's see what happens from here. Next story. Gang, for many years, we've been told it was only one shooter. For many years, John F. Kennedy assassination. No, no, there's one shooter. You guys are delusional. There's only one shooter. You're crazy. Oh my God, you guys are just following all these stories and movies. Stop it. Stop watching Oliver Stone and stop watching this and stop watching that. MAGA head of JFK files task force claims there were two shooters. Okay, and this is, I want to say her name properly, Anna Paulina Luna. She does phenomenal work, launched a task force on the declassification of federal secrets,

• 1:01:36Patrick Bet-David?

  along House Oversight Chairman James Comer, declaring, I believe, well, I'll let you watch it for yourself. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:01:44Speaker 00

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• 1:02:14Speaker 01

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• 1:02:56Patrick Bet-David?

  seeing so far, the initial hearing that was actually held here in Congress was actually faulty in the single bullet theory. I believe that there were two shooters and we should be finding more information as we are able to gain access into the skip, hopefully before the files are actually released to the public.

• 1:03:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie.

• 1:03:15Speaker 06

  Okay, and I've been, besides Oliver Stone's JFK, the movie, which I've probably seen, no joke, maybe 15 times, so accurate, so much details.

• 1:03:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Back and to the right.

• 1:03:28Speaker 06

  Just doing all your own research, Pat, with your own eyes, okay? And then, and then watching that video, and I'll send it to Rob after we all break it down, where Secret Service is running by his car, and he's about to go down Dealey Plaza, and he's called off. I got goosebumps, Pat. They're calling off Secret Service because when you're out there in the open in a pretty dangerous place, which is Dallas, which you've gotten death threats, you release everybody because there's supposed to be a human being running just to be able to stop the shooting. And as a, as a marksman, as an expert in the rifle, there's no way that Oswald with the pump, there's, there's no way. And we all saw as it's going, because they slowed down. This is the video right here. Look at this, while, while I'm telling the story, look at it. These guys are called off of protecting the president.

• 1:04:12Speaker 06

  Even the Secret Service guy's like, wait, what? And then look at this, leaving him going completely naked out there with no protection, Pat. They're supposed to be running by the vehicle. So then seeing the video, and then seeing him getting shot once in the throat, and you see him like asking for help, and then Onassis comes and gets to his aid, and then his head goes backwards, and they proved in a court of law in the United States, a magic bullet theory. And if you haven't seen it, they're saying Tom that a bullet came in, hit him, hit the governor, spun around and came back. And as you guys all know, the word magic is make believe. It's fake. The fact that they called it a magic bullet theory, and I just can't, I cannot wait for, and again, you talk about accountability,

• 1:04:57Speaker 06

  vindication for people like us that have been saying it forever. They have been lying to us. They lied about the Gulf of Tonkin, they lie about this, they lied about 9/11. That's all they've done is lie to us. And this is the main reason, Pat, that people like Trump and people like Elon are such a threat to them because they're messing with their money. This is, Tom, what was this? He, he went up against the, the military industrial complex. What is that doing? You're messing with people's money, and they shot him in the head. What Trump is doing right now, what Elon's doing right now, and what he's suggesting with the Fed is messing with their money. And it's a dangerous game that they're playing, but I think it's a game that has to be played, period.

• 1:05:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

• 1:05:35Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, I'm looking forward to this and I'm glad that she's on it and I want to see the stuff coming out so that all of the theories, not just theories, there was some real informed research that was done, but I think that much of that research is going to be validated, absolutely validated. And we have seen, you know, it's not Oliver Stone, you know, theatric, making a theatrical interpretation of what's going on with, you know, Garrison, the character. It's also looking at common sense from men who have served on the battlefield, that have served with the police departments, that have served with ballistics, saying, "You can't cause the president's wound, the head wound, the

• 1:06:20Tom Ellsworth?

  kill shot, from above and behind him." And it's just, we've all known that. That's like, that's a simple fact. You can't do that. Well, then where'd it come from? Now I have all the theories. Oh, the CIA was over here, the guy in the grass, you know, but I am very, very happy that it's starting to come out. And we've also heard, you know, you know, things coming from others over time and people that have said it, you know, saying, "Well, it's not a who, it's a what." You know, what? What? It was an agency or it's a group? And I'm very glad that it's coming out. And she just stood there and said, you know, "From what I'm seeing, there was two shooters," which we have forensically understood. We just want to know, who are the two shooters? Is there documents in the Kennedy files that

• 1:07:03Tom Ellsworth?

  would indicate who was, or who called, or who paid, or who placed?

• 1:07:09Speaker 06

  Yeah, but my problem is, okay, they've always known. They've always known. Why keep it from the public? That's the, I mean, we know, but what's the reason? Who was that guy? So, I mean, that means they brought it to court, they all freaking lied, all these witnesses, witnesses showing up dead. They've been lying to us. They keep lying to us. And it pisses me off is when we find out who that person is, Tom, because I believe that there might have been even more than that guy. I think there was multiple people, I think it was a triangular position, and maybe even some of them had blanks. So at the end of the day, no one is actually at fault and nobody knows, nobody can say why. finally did it. I had blanks in my gun. I want to know who

• 1:07:47Tom Ellsworth?

  So that's the firing squad theory is that one, one out of seven men on the firing squad has a blank.

• 1:07:51Speaker 06

  Yes, so, so.

• 1:07:52Tom Ellsworth?

  So you can always think, maybe I didn't.

• 1:07:54Speaker 06

  So you could sleep at night.

• 1:07:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Did my duty, but maybe it wasn't me.

• 1:07:57Speaker 06

  And so, and, and, and Pat, this is my thing. There's another shooter. Who did he work for and who told him to go there? That, and who told it to cover it up? That's the problem.

• 1:08:06Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what I look forward to is finding out the who behind the second shooter, because I, I don't think there's a question.

• 1:08:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Which, which of the two are you more interested in? This or Epstein's list?

• 1:08:15Speaker 06

  Epstein's list. Can I be honest with you?

• 1:08:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:17Speaker 06

  They, if JFK, you know why? Because that to me, besides nine 11, is the worst moment in the history of the United States. They murdered, murdered a sat, whatever you want to call it, the sitting president. Meaning that if, if it's true, the CIA, all these guys, Lyndon B. Johnson, they all colluded to kill him. To hell with treason. It just sucks because none of these people are alive, Pat. They kept it, held it for all these years. Everybody's dead. We're not going to have any accountability. And if it was the CIA, what's going to happen to the CIA?

• 1:08:48Tom Ellsworth?

  That's why I.

• 1:08:49Speaker 06

  That's the problem.

• 1:08:49Tom Ellsworth?

  That's why I was a little bit more prone to wanting to know what's on Epstein's list. Because yes, is, is the assassination and murder of a sitting US president JFK important? You bet your ass it is. However, whatever happened with Epstein, that, these people are walking around. What's going on? What did they do illegal? Who was this guy? What happened? Where are these people? This pedophile island? But yes, this is important. I'm not downplaying the.

• 1:09:12Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:09:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Um, how, how important.

• 1:09:14Speaker 06

  The severity of it.

• 1:09:16Tom Ellsworth?

  But, um, you know, what, you know what I find interesting? Under the, the Trump administration, this is going to be coming out. Hopefully we'll see. I would love to know what the Democratic wing of the, uh, Kennedy family these days, other than basically JFK. Uh, would they owe him a debt of gratitude? Would they say thank you? Do they want to know what's going on? Like, would they at least admit, hey, you know, we're not the biggest fans of Trump. We're a Democrat.

• 1:09:40Speaker 06

  legacy family, but thank you for shedding some light of exactly what happened in this situation right here. So I'd love to see what happened with that. But this, but this was the first bit like this. I get the Epstein thing and trust me, anything with children. I'm 100% all in. You know, that's the hill that I would die on, freaking fall in the sword, all that. But this is one of the first ones. This is the main one assassinating a sitting president. And if these freaking agencies were involved. So go, so go down the path here. Okay. So it turns out there was a second shooter and it was involved in the CIA or something. Yeah, whatever. Or was the mafia? What then? What do you do then? Be like, I told you so? No. Everyone knows that there's some sort of foul play going on here. But we have to know the truth. What would change?

• 1:10:24Speaker 06

  What would, but what would actually change? CIA was involved, Adam, guess what happens to the CIA? You're going bye bye. You can't be, you, you were. CIA is not going bye bye. What do you mean? What do you, what, hold on. Okay. So let me, let me put it back to you. You find out today. Yeah, but it's, but, but the point is, this was 75 years. I don't, I don't give a shit. No one's alive. If they, but the organization killed a sitting president.

• 1:10:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You're saying, you have little interest to find out the truth about what happened 62 years ago.

• 1:10:53Speaker 06

  It's not what I said. I didn't say I have little interest. I said that I have more interest in what's going on on Epstein. You asked a binary question. What do you have more interested in Epstein or JFK? Yes, I have interest in this, but, but it's not like any of these people are even alive. Hundred, hundred percent. But guess what happened to Donald Trump a couple of months ago, Adam? They shot him. Yeah, I'd like to know those stories. What happened with that as well? For this, they, and, and this is again, as a shooter, I'm not freaking showing off. The cockiness, I don't think it was crooks. This is me personally. The guy had six cell phones. We know nothing about him, like Luigi Mangione. That guy in three hours, we knew everything. He might be gay. He might be this. The fact that we still don't know shit about that guy. Okay. And, and as a shooter, to shoot somebody and try to go for their head.

• 1:11:35Speaker 06

  That is a cocky shooter because as a sniper, when you're trying to shoot, bro, you're shooting center mass. Whatever your front sight or your dot, you're here, Adam, because no matter where you're breathing, whatever. Even if you hit Trump here, here, here, here, he's done. He's 78 years old. He's not going to survive. This person was trying to do, because when you shoot somebody here, that's trying to send a message to the world. But God intervened and that's why, Pat, you nailed it. That November 5th, this movement, saving humanity. We are living in such an amazing time that I believe God said, now's not the time. And he, and he, and he stepped in. That's divine intervention. Yeah, map. I think. The chart. The chart.

• 1:12:13Tom Ellsworth?

  I believe in the simplicity theory that even in the deepest conspiracies, you have simplicity. And I think it's very simple. Our government has been trying to spin the minds of its populace, its citizens for decades, centuries. And to keep the mind going, to keep MKUltra, to keep things going, to spin, you can't admit to the Kennedy thing. Because you can't have transparency and have the public saying, well, you know what? Maybe they're just lying to us, just like Kennedy. So you can't have, you can't legitimize that.

• 1:12:50Tom Ellsworth?

  You can't put that out there because you need to keep the secrecy and the spin to, to, to brainwash the citizens tomorrow. And you can't go back and say, okay, look, we're sorry. Vietnam War, you know, we did this thing and we were drafting mostly African Americans. Yeah, we did it. CIA killed Kennedy, all those people are gone, Ellen Dellis is gone, but we named the airport after him. And, but yeah, we did it. They can't do that because you can't have the citizens able to say, had to have legitimate doubt.

• 1:13:21Speaker 06

  Pa, Pa, what are your thought? What, what's your thought on that there probably being another shooter, them, them, if it's true, lying to us, the CIA involved? All, all that type of stuff, all that, what, what? Because I know you're passionate about it.

• 1:13:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, listen. Let me tell you, you know, when, when you go into relationships that you have in your life. Yesterday, we're sitting there with a, a few of our business managers that we have and we're spending more time with middle management. We're having a conversation about who typically ends up moving up, getting promotions, what happens with them. Okay, and what qualities we value. Okay, trust.

• 1:14:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, somebody that can deliver, somebody that keeps their word, somebody that's reliable. And in your community, as you age, and you have family, kids, peers, you want your kids to be surrounded by men and women who are like that, okay? Then, people you do business with, okay? People you do business with, companies you do business with, you size up all the partners and vendors, and you want to trust what they're saying, okay? You want to trust what they're saying. You want them to tell the truth because you want to be able to continue doing business with them. They don't have any issues with them, right? Okay. How many people you think want to believe CIA? How many American people, what percentage do you think would like to believe what the CIA is saying?

• 1:14:46Speaker 06

  Like genuinely wish?

• 1:14:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Genuinely want to believe them?

• 1:14:48Speaker 06

  I mean, the majority of them.

• 1:14:50Patrick Bet-David?

  All of them, right? Okay, how many people would like to believe that what the government is saying, they're being straight up, and it's the best interest of the American people?

• 1:14:57Speaker 06

  All of us want to hope.

• 1:14:59Patrick Bet-David?

  They want that.

• 1:15:00Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:15:01Patrick Bet-David?

  They want to experience that, because then you know there's credibility, accountability, trust, execution. Things move faster the higher trust is. The lower trust is, things move slower. Things get executed slower. Right now, trust is low. And the reason why we're moving so fast in the first few weeks is we have an operator that's driving the hell out of everybody, and all of them, Glenn Beck put it the best way, team of rivals that are willing to work together to increase the credibility of our nation. And, and you gotta give credit to that. That's what I'm excited about. I want our credit score as a country to go up where we can believe what they're saying. We're never gonna be at a point that you're gonna believe 100% of them, never.

• 1:15:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not expecting, nobody has a 100% credit score when they're financing something. Everybody has had a late or something like that. But guess what? When you're financing at a bank, you want a 750, 760, you like to see a lot of 800s, but you're willing to entertain 760s. I want, our government score right now, as of two months ago, is probably in the 450s. Nobody trusts, what can you finance with a 450 credit score?

• 1:16:05Speaker 06

  Nothing.

• 1:16:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Nothing, nothing. You gotta increase your credit score. That's my interest. Okay. All right, so next story I want to get into is, uh, which one should we go here with this one? Let me go into, uh... Uh, da-da-da-da-da, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. Yeah, let's go into this one here. So billionaire hedge fund guru wants Trump's tariffs, warns Trump's tariffs are harming us. Okay. This isn't just anybody saying this, by the way. This is Ken Griffin, founder of Citadel and a Republican supporter. Warned that Trump's tariffs create an uncertainty and chaos that hinder economic growth, making it difficult for multinationals to plan long-term. Speaking at a UBS group conference, he criticized Trump's bombastic rhetoric, stating,

• 1:16:51Patrick Bet-David?

  "It sears into the minds of CEOs and policymakers that we can't depend upon America as our trading partner." Griffin, who has donated millions to the Republicans but not directed to Trump's campaign, believes tariffs could increase the US deficit and make domestic companies less competitive and productive. Trump's tariff policies are causing businesses to struggle with supply chain and pricing, with Griffin pointing out that Canada's energy sector may now turn to China instead of the US. Trump imposed 25% tariff on steel and aluminum imports without exceptions or exemptions, and 10% tariffs on all Chinese goods while threatening Canada and Mexico. Griffin warns that these moves could, uh, uh, force US allies to form new trade alliances, saying the damage has already been done.

• 1:17:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, do you agree with him?

• 1:17:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, it's hard to disagree with Ken Griffin's argument, the way he's putting it. But I think also he's getting out in front. Uh, and what he's getting out in front on, um, is about the disruption. The market jumps up, the market jumps down. The market jumps up, the market jumps down. But the market hasn't had permanent change related to tariffs, nor have we had economic statistics that we can point to related to tariffs. But we have had a market that's been jittery, a stock market. Okay. Well, he's saying that's uncertainty and chaos. Okay, Ken's right. And he says, "Planning for long-term." What does a hedge fund manager want? A long-term predictable market so they can make their hedge bets. That's, and that, so he's in the business of doing that.

• 1:18:23Tom Ellsworth?

  So you could translate it this way. Hey, my business needs a little bit of stability. and long-term point of view that helps me run my business. My business is pretty effing big and I touch a lot of this economy. So I would imagine you all want me to have a long view and some predictability. That's part one. And then part two, along with the long run and predictability. What Griffin is saying is, hey, you don't want any of this temporary stuff to cause someone to make a spontaneous decision about a trade partner. You don't want them to think, oh gosh, this stuff's gonna be bouncing around for a while. They're gonna make different decisions. What he's really saying there, I don't think he's being completely altruistic about the United States.

• 1:19:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I think what he's saying there, hey, I'm making hedge bets and I know who the bets I make, who they're depending on for suppliers. I know who they're depending on for partners. And if you mess that up, it's like suddenly telling me there's 61 cards in the deck rather than 52. Ah, crap. What are the other 11? Is there more aces, more jacks, or just a bunch of twos and threes? I think that's what it is. So I don't disagree with Ken Griffin at the core. However, I think when you break it down, what he's really saying is that in the short run, you're bumping things up and you're saying a bunch of things. I don't want people to make long-run decisions based on short-run chaos.

• 1:19:50Tom Ellsworth?

  But I think deep inside, Ken Griffin knows what's going on here. He knows exactly that these are tactics, not taxes for the long term. But he doesn't want people to make short-term decisions that affect him.

• 1:20:04Speaker 06

  Adam? I think Ken Griffin's sort of spot on. And we're all rooting for Trump. We all want the best for the country. All want to know what's going on. But it's almost like the yin yang theory. What goes up, what goes down, it's everything's interdependent. So if you're gonna do things, and from a negotiation standpoint, you throw off foreign governments, whether it's China, whether it's Canada, whether it's Mexico, you know, withdrawing from the Paris Climate Accords. Withdrawing from WHO and everything you're doing with tariffs, you're going to create uncertainty for foreign governments. That's great. But you're also going to create uncertainty for domestic corporations and consumer sentiment. So just like you're throwing people off of the negotiation tactic from a foreign standpoint,

• 1:20:48Speaker 06

  you're also going to throw people off from a domestic standpoint. So like Tom said, the markets like certainty and they like predictability. There's something called the VIX, right? The volatility index, which basically shows like, how crazy is the world going right now? Is the world certain? Is the world uncertain? We know about the fear greed index. But while you're negotiating with these foreign governments and over tariffs, there's a lot of domestic corporations and companies that are like, alright, like, well, we don't know what to do because they need to price in future risks and price in future tariffs. And they're not necessarily sure what to do. From a consumer standpoint, people like stability, people like clarity, and there might not be a lot of that right now. So basically, if you're disrupting foreign governments, you're also disrupting some of the domestic. So.

• 1:21:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you on a part where I don't know if I agree with Ken Griffin. And here's the part, okay, for me. Common sense, when you think about the keyword retaliatory reciprocal tariffs. What is a reciprocal tariff? Rob, if you can pull up this New York Post story that came out. So if somebody, Vinny, you don't have to be a business expert. You don't need an MBA. You don't even need to be a business person, salesperson. You can be any average person. If somebody has a 10% tariff on you, but you have zero tariff on them, is that fair?

• 1:22:11Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:22:12Patrick Bet-David?

  What should the right number be?

• 1:22:14Speaker 06

  10 and 10.

• 1:22:14Patrick Bet-David?

  10 and 10?

• 1:22:15Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:22:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, cool. If you're going to charge me 10%, I'm going to charge you 10%.

• 1:22:18Speaker 06

  Why not?

• 1:22:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Is there anything wrong about that?

• 1:22:21Speaker 06

  Absolutely not.

• 1:22:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, what if I've been doing 10% on your country for the last 30 years and you've done zero on me? To make up the last 30 years of me only putting 10 on you and zero on me, is it fair for you to do 20 on me for a few years to catch up?

• 1:22:34Speaker 06

  100%.

• 1:22:34Patrick Bet-David?

  That's something you can debate. But what I'm saying is that's something you don't need a degree to process that.

• 1:22:40Speaker 06

  No, and I don't, yeah. I'm an associate, but still.

• 1:22:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so if you read the Trump to impose reciprocal tariffs is a bold move. Why is it a bold move? Here the possible risk and rewards go a little bit lower. Why, I don't even understand why they're saying it's a bold move. They're tariffing you. You shouldn't do to them reciprocal? Well, what do you mean a bold move? I don't even like the word bold in that title. It's a very straight up move. The idea is straightforward. I agree if another country imposes a tariff on American products, the US will respond by applying the same tariff to that country's goods. It's common sense. The strategy is intended to create a fairer trade environment, but could also escalate tensions and potential trigger a new tariff war. Why would it? Go, go, why, why would it do that? The European Union currently placed a 10% tariff on cars imported to US. Whereas the US only charges 2.5%. Why? Why? I don't know.

• 1:23:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Give me the seven and a half. So, so you get to send your BMWs, Mercedes, everything, we gotta pay that 10 points? But we send our Ford, we send our GMC, we send all that, we don't, we only do 2.5%? The goal of Trump's reciprocal tariff is to eliminate these imbalances. I agree. So I'll be announcing, by the way, what if Europe eliminates the 10% and brings it to zero? Different kind of a conversation. I'll be announcing that next week on reciprocal trade. So that we're treated evenly with other countries. We don't want any more or any less, Trump told reporters in Oval Office. Fair, I agree. The president added that he planned all the press conference on the matter as well as a meeting on this show either Monday or Tuesday. Trump's indictment indicated on Friday that reciprocal tariffs might replace the proposed 10 or 20% universal import duties.

• 1:24:11Patrick Bet-David?

  That was a key part of his economic, by the way, which by the way, people should be happy about that. Because 10 or 20 means what? It's blanket. Reciprocal is not blanket. You know what reciprocal is? So if I say 20% on everybody, but you don't tariff me? Come on. You know what I'm saying? But if I say, what do you impose on me? 15%. 15% back. We're at seven, we're going to 15. No, no, no, no, no. Then lower your 15 to seven. Cause that's what I'm making. So then maybe BMW cars will be cheaper for us. Go ahead, do it, lower it for us, right? And $80,000 cars now $72,000. We'll take that $7,000, $8,000 savings. So he stated that he was leaning towards implementing mostly, mostly reciprocal tariffs rather than broad import duties.

• 1:24:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump announced on Sunday that he is set to implement a universal. 25% tariff on all imports of steel and aluminum. That's all great, Tom. Go for it.

• 1:25:03Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what I think? I think there's also something here people forget about. Do you, for those of you that went through it, do you remember the day? That you had to stop spending on your credit card? You were up at your limit. Yep. And you had to stop. It's painful. Because now you were living a lifestyle, you were spending on things, you were doing things, you had to stop. The day you said you're gonna stop drinking. Your body is reacting. That's hard. That's physical. What Pat was talking about is, things have been going on for years, even decades. And now they have to stop. If anybody thought this was gonna be a painless procedure here? You're not. You've had a pain in your side for a while, pain in your side for a while. You finally go to the doctor, the doctor says, "You know what? I'm detecting, I'm detecting a tumor here in your abdomen.

• 1:25:47Tom Ellsworth?

  We gotta give you chemotherapy, we gotta take tumor out. You're gonna go bald. It's gonna be painful." That's the price you gotta pay for the correction. And right now, what people need to understand, and you don't need a college degree. We have been manipulated in so many ways by other countries with their products. And we're saying, "It's stopping now." But the process to change it is not easy. You gotta negotiate with these people, and if they won't negotiate, you say, "Here comes, here comes my tariff. This is what I'm gonna do. Get ready, I'm gonna be reciprocal with you." The other side screams loudest when you hit the target. And that's exactly what Trump is doing right now. He's hitting the target.

• 1:26:30Tom Ellsworth?

  And, this is painful. It is not easy to undo this stuff. So you have to remember, America, you had cancer, you had, you had import-export cancer, you didn't know it. And now, to get through it and to remove the tumor of unfairness from the other side? This is a negotiation.

• 1:26:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Rob, can you check to see which countries tariff US the most? Let me give you an idea of what happened yesterday. I'm talking to a business owner, who's in a construction space in Western Australia, one of the clients we consult for at Be David Consulting. You can go to be david.com to learn more. So I'm talking to this guy, and he says, "I'm trying to compete for the other business, but I can't, because my clients, my competitors that I'm competing with are non-union, and I do union work, and so union work causes my cost and labor to be 20% higher."

• 1:27:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So I said, okay, so how are you competing with the, I said, your competitors, what percentage of our non-union, 90%? I said, so does the quality of union, when you do the work, is it better than non-union? Not necessarily. So why are you union? And so he says, so let's just say somebody places a job, that's $400,000, and you're non-union, I have to charge, what, $480, because I'm what, hiring union? And union has stipulations, if somebody works after eight hours on the ninth hour, 25% increase on the 10th hour, another 25% on the 11th hour, another 25%. So, a person making 30 bucks an hour, in the eighth hour, for example, is, you know, 37.50, okay?

• 1:28:05Patrick Bet-David?

  On the 10th hour, it's 45 bucks. On the, you understand what happens, eventually on the 12th hour, you're making 60 bucks an hour. So guys like, you know, construction, sometime we work late, what do I do with this? I said, well, as a client, I'm almost always gonna go non-union, why would I pay that additional 20 points? So how do you compete? So what's the point? So what's gonna happen on some of these items, that tariffs are put on, and prices on those items go up, it may cause Americans to buy more Ford. It may cause Americans to buy more GM. It may cause Americans to buy more Chrysler. It may even cause some of these guys who are Mercedes and BMW to produce their cars here, and those cars may be cheaper than the ones that they're shipping to us from

• 1:28:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Europe. It may cause that. But to get to that, it's two years of a lot of pain, and here's my concern, here's my concern why they have to move so quickly. Because if they drive tariffs, as hard as they do, and within a year and a half, it doesn't produce the results that they want, and the offset of lowering taxes doesn't make Americans happy enough, it will be a bloodbath in two years at midterms. Let me say that one more time. If, we have to do this, I'm convinced we have to go this route, but I think we need four years for this to work. I don't know if it's gonna happen in 18 months. If they go this route, and you go like this on the knob with tariffs, right?

• 1:29:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to go like this on taxes and regulation. To offset each other. I don't know if you understand what I'm saying. So if I go tariff like this, taxes like this, dude, you're choking, right? But if I go like this too much, it's also too loosey goosey. You spoil everybody's 0% interest rate. So it's a lot of fake success. You don't want that. I think it's gotta go like this. You go tariffs higher, you lower taxes regulation. So this place is a little bit loose. Money's being reinvested. IPO market goes a little bit higher. Guys are starting to put $5 billion, $1 billion, half a million dollars into new businesses being started. And then all of a sudden, these guys are gonna be like, oh shit, we just threatened you us. And they're realizing they don't need us anymore. Hey, we were kidding, we were kidding, we were kidding. But they have to do it fast before midterms.

• 1:30:17Patrick Bet-David?

  If after midterms, they take control, now you got a gridlock, now nothing's gonna get done in the last two years. It's really only a two-year term. That's my concern. So I don't know. We'll see what's gonna happen. Speed will be critical. That's why this is called the year of surprises. And the three words in 2025 are: speed, product, signal. Speed, product, signal. That's the key.

• 1:30:36Speaker 05

  I think you just taught me something, and I think you just taught the audience something. So like, Trump is basically DJing the economy right now. So you got the treble and you got the bass right here. So he's basically saying, hey, America, get ready. Things are gonna cost a little bit more. You know, Tom said, basically, you're gonna have to go through a little bit of pain. And what's the pain? Paying higher prices. So how can we offset that with the DJ, DJ PBD out in the house? Um, we're gonna lower the bass a little bit, AKA your taxes. And we're gonna increase the treble out here right now. So it might be music to your ears. Trump is a brilliant marketer. He has to basically make the people understand one thing. Be very clear. I'm going to be raising tariffs. It's going to raise prices. But I'm going to be lowering your taxes to offset this.

• 1:31:21Speaker 05

  It's a messaging campaign. If he can convey the message to the American people, hey, need you to go out there and buy American, need you to have American pride.

• 1:31:29Speaker 06

  Get out there and buy American, remember, remember like X amount of years ago when we, we wouldn't eat french fries?

• 1:31:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:35Speaker 06

  It was like, no, no, we're going freedom fries now. No more french fries, freedom fries. Everyone was like, okay, I guess we're not eating, uh, french fries anymore. But the messaging was understood, all right, we gotta, we need some freedom.

• 1:31:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:47Speaker 06

  That's what Trump needs to convey because I think most people don't understand what the hell's going on with these tariffs. And I think that's what Ken Gifford is sort of alluding to.

• 1:31:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:55Speaker 06

  So if we understand, like, uh, DJ PBD over here, turn up the treble, a little bit of bass, like Warren G., I think we're gonna be all right.

• 1:32:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Just hit the east side on the.

• 1:32:04Speaker 06

  LBC, that's right.

• 1:32:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Mission trying to find Mr. Warren G.

• 1:32:08Speaker 06

  Mr. DJT.

• 1:32:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, seeing the car full of girls, ain't no need to.

• 1:32:11Speaker 06

  This trip, no need to trip.

• 1:32:13Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so it is what it is.

• 1:32:14Speaker 06

  Let's see what's up with one, two, one, three, let's go, guys.

• 1:32:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So, uh, hooks a left on two, one, and Louis, some brother shooting dice.

• 1:32:19Speaker 06

  So I said, let's do this.

• 1:32:21Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, what's up? Anyways, all right, so let's.

• 1:32:23Speaker 06

  Guys, we could do this thing all day long.

• 1:32:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't get distracted, all right, stay focused, stay focused, all right. Border czar, Tom Homan accuses FBI of leaking information about ICE raids, lives at risk. But Tom Homan is also not, i- i- is a little bit not satisfied with the numbers of ICE arrests. What I do wanna bring up with this, that's kind of a little bit, Rob, which clip is that? Is that the one that he's not happy about the numbers so far?

• 1:32:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, so I have three Tom Homan clips. The first one is him saying that the FBI leaked, uh, information about the raids. The second one is him saying he's not satisfied with the ICE arrests. And then the third one is his message to the Pope.

• 1:32:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Because the Pope said what? He's just not comfortable about it and all this other stuff, right? Okay, go in the order that you have, go for it.

• 1:33:05Speaker 05

  ... Tom Homan, Tom, where are these leaks coming from?

• 1:33:11Speaker 05

  Well, look, we think it's coming from inside and, uh, we know the first leak of Aurora is under current investigation. We think we identified that person, uh, under investigation right now. Uh, the, the California leak, uh, Secretary Noem, you know, she's correct. Some of the information we're receiving tends to lead toward the FBI. Uh, but I talked to Deputy Turner General all this weekend. They've opened up a criminal investigation and they have promised that not only this person will lose their job and lose their pension, they're going to go to jail, they're going to criminally prosecute. So we're all over it.

• 1:33:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's that. He's saying it's an inside job. Somebody's leaking information. They gotta find it. Okay, this one here is responding to the numbers. Go for it.

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• 1:34:58Speaker 05

  I'm not. The rest, if you look at the rest of the country, unfortunately about three times higher. Three times higher is good, but I'm not satisfied. There's more criminal aliens that need to be arrested, hundreds of thousands, sanctuary cities are putting roadblocks up, we got leaks. So we need to increase.

• 1:35:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Just stop right there, Rob. And then go to the last one here with the Pope, you know, taking some shots at him and he responds, Pope Francis rebukes Trump's mass deportation efforts. You know, Pope is out there. Let me read this to you. What is built on the basis of force and not on the truth about equal dignity of every human being begins badly and will end badly. In a letter to American Catholic bishops, he stated, "The rightly formed conscious cannot fail to make a critical judgment and expresses disagreements with any measure that tactically..." Tacitly. "...tacitly and explicitly identifies the legal status of some migrants." Okay, so... With criminality. With criminal, yeah, with criminality.

• 1:36:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Some migrants with criminality.

• 1:36:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Basically saying criminal migrants.

• 1:36:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it, Rob. Here's how he responds to it.

• 1:36:08Tom Ellsworth?

  The large children. And I got Housework for the Pope. Pope ought to fix the Catholic Church. I'm saying this as a lifelong Catholic. I was baptized Catholic. I was first communionist Catholic, confirmationist Catholic. He ought to fix the Catholic Church and concentrate on his work and lead border enforcement to us. He wants to attack us for securing our border? He's got to wall around the Vatican, does he not? So he's got to wall around to protect his people and himself, but we can't have a wall around the United States? So I wish he'd stick to the Catholic Church and fix that and lead border enforcement to us. Mic drop.

• 1:36:40Speaker 06

  Common sense. Like, what are we even talking about? You got him.

• 1:36:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, your thoughts?

• 1:36:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Um, I think, I think Tom Homan is a beast and I think he's exactly who we need. Uh, I'm a little bit, I'm a little bit nervous on one thing. Hiring contractors to go out there. Uh, it is one thing to hire some contractors and say, hey, um, go look at Glassdoor, go look at Yelp for me, go look at Google. Is there a positive or negative reference about my company? And what is being said in that? Maybe, do we need to do things in HR and to take a look at ourselves? Is there an opportunity to learn here? Uh, and then we can do that. American companies do all that day and there's services that you can subscribe to. So you could see what's said about your company and maybe you find out that you have some blind spots. You got some things you got to fix.

• 1:37:28Tom Ellsworth?

  But when you go over and say, you know, as well as looking for contractors that could perform, um, a personal identification of who is saying it. No, we're not just sentiment. Not just like it's 78 degrees out there. You know what I mean, Benny? 78 degrees, but who caused it to be 78 degrees? That's different. That's different. And then including asking which contractors could use, um, uh, PC cameras and, and find a facial, um, facial recognition for people that did a, um, uh, a narrative or they actually posted something on TikTok. It was their own face saying, "I don't like these people. They're full of crap, blah, blah, blah." Well, now your face is there. And who want to know who that is? I think that crosses the line.

• 1:38:14Tom Ellsworth?

  I think, I think it's a good idea to find out what the public sentiment is because the news media lies front, right and center, in my opinion. Front, right and center.

• 1:38:22Patrick Bet-David?

  The news media lies?

• 1:38:24Speaker 06

  Wait, Tom, I will get up.

• 1:38:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Allegedly.

• 1:38:25Speaker 06

  I will leave this podcast and never come back.

• 1:38:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's fact check that, Tom. They can't say that.

• 1:38:29Tom Ellsworth?

  So, I'm not gonna wait for the news media to tell me. And it's not a bad thing for me to find out if the public sentiment is one way or the other. And I'll do so in a real way.

• 1:38:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you what concerns me with ICE. This is the only thing, okay? And help me, I'd like to debate this and maybe there's some leaks in my thoughts that I have here and I'm fully open to it. ICE wants to know if you're posting negative things about them online, okay? ICE is seeking contractors to monitor online discussions, including negative references to the agency. The contract requires real-time threat mitigation and monitoring services to track criticism and potential threats. Contractors must analyze behavior on social media sentiment and compile weekly reports on the total number of negative references to the ICE found on social media. The program also includes identifying individuals being flagged post, gathering data such as previous social media activity, affiliation with a group which has violent tendencies,

• 1:39:21Patrick Bet-David?

  and using facial recognition capabilities to link online identities. Critics warn the program threatens free speech and expands ICE's history of mass surveillance. Cynthia Rodriguez, American right group Mijent, states ICE's attempt to have eyes and ears in as many places as we exist, both online and offline, should ring an alarm for all of us. Vinnie?

• 1:39:41Speaker 06

  I mean, anything that has to do with facial recognition and stuff like that, I mean, I could see how, if this is like Tom Homan's directive and worrying about, you know, the threats, because I mean, there's a bunch of people threatening them. There have been death threats. I know the cartels were trying to send up drones and stuff to actually attack ICE and border agents and they were putting hits out on them. I think this, but I'm not a fan of that mass surveillance. I'm not a fan of it. If they have wind of people posting and stuff like that that are threatening life, then deal with it like that, but I'm not a big fan of any mass surveillance.

• 1:40:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what my concern is with this area is the following. My concern is, if your side, let's just say, you know...

• 1:40:28Patrick Bet-David?

  The company has a CEO that you don't like. He's a POS.

• 1:40:32Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:40:33Patrick Bet-David?

  A company you work for has a CEO that you just can't stand. And they are overly monitoring everything in ways that's crossing the line. Just kinda like, when I'm saying stuff like crossing the line, like-

• 1:40:48Speaker 06

  Like reading, like, like, let's say you're doing your emails through work email, they can read your emails.

• 1:40:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, no, they can do that anyways. I'm not talking about that. Like, you know, most CEOs don't have time to go- I've never read an email of my, what do you call it, of, uh, uh, two employees exchanging email with each other. That's not what I'm talking about. But like, just annoyingly obnoxious and annoying to work with, and the guy's not in, he's golfing three days a week, but he's expecting you to work, and there's all, all this other stuff that's happening. Then a new CEO gets hired, and you like him a lot, okay? And it's great. But he also wants to take everything to the highest level of investigation and all this other stuff like hardcore, hardcore, hardcore, with everybody. You know what then it happens?

• 1:41:33Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a guy you like, but guess what? If he creates those standards, anybody else after him, the same thing's gonna happen. Meaning, you may like the people that are in the White House today. You may like Tom Homan. I'm a big fan of his. If you go and type in on YouTube, Tom Homan PBD, you'll see what I said about him before he got elected. And I, Rob, if you can pull up this clip on Tom Homan, just type in Tom Homan, and then go to YouTube, search for views, and go to most viewed, okay? You'll see right there, the top clip is, uh, right here. Okay, this is, go play the clip.

• 1:42:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Can't hear it, Rob. Can you go back a little bit? Yeah. If Trump wins, this guy is gonna be back running the border. This was a year ago. And, and I want to remind you guys who this guy is when he sat down with AOC, and AOC tried to grill him.

• 1:42:21Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:42:21Patrick Bet-David?

  And watch what happened to AOC when she tried to grill a man who knows the law. Go ahead and watch. It's just entertaining. Go ahead. You don't need to play the whole thing, but that's, that's a year ago, right? So, he's the right guy for the job. So happy to fact that he's in there. But if you allow and be okay with this additional surveillance on you, then the next administration that comes in that you don't like, they're gonna say, well, what's wrong with it? They did it anyways. Your favorite guy, Tom Homan, came up. You're, you're giving permission for the, this guy may be doing it for the right reasons because he's trying to find all the other, but the next guy may be like, no, we're, we're watching you, Vinny. Yeah. So today you went to the bathroom zero times. Is your stomach okay? No. Are you, are you eating your, are you eating your, what do you call it? The powder?

• 1:43:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Whatever the powder you eat? Your liver, like collagen. Collagen? Isn't this the, what happened with the? Hey, what happened with that? How'd you know I was drinking collagen in the morning? That's right. That's what I'm, well, listen, I work with eyes. We all know. So we watch and we follow stuff closely. Isn't this what happened with the Patriot Act? Yeah. Hey, listen, we're just gonna do a little surveilling and then all of a sudden. And by the way, it happened under who? George W. Bush. No, no. Obama, didn't it? No, you're talking about like, this was, it happened in November, November of 01. The Patriot Act was after Bush. It's, they started November of 01, if I'm not mistaken. What, what month did it get started? Right after, right after 9/11. What month did it get started, Patriot Act?

• 1:43:42Tom Ellsworth?

  October 26th of 2001.

• 1:43:44Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go, October 26th of 01. I mean, like literally a month after 9/11. TSA, all that stuff. And where's it right now? So I'm just saying, like, some of this stuff you gotta kinda watch when it happens. I will say this to you, for some of you guys that want, you know, some, some news, uh, that it's, it's tough, rapper Cardi B claims her uncle got deported. No. Yeah. No. In an anti-Trump rant. Uncle got deported. She's not too happy about it. Is this it, Rob?

• 1:44:09Tom Ellsworth?

  It is. It's really long. I can just forward to the end. It's a minute and 40 and she just eats chips the entire time.

• 1:44:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:15Tom Ellsworth?

  But towards the end, she complains about how, uh, Donald Trump deported her uncle.

• 1:44:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I think we'll be okay without watching.

• 1:44:20Speaker 06

  And, and you know, you know what she's mad, you know what she's, she's furious about? Cause like an idiot, I had to watch the whole thing because I was waiting for the part that Rob's talking about. She's complaining about her $3,000 shoes, the red bottom with the spikes on them.

• 1:44:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me see what you're talking about, Vinny.

• 1:44:33Speaker 06

  And she's, and she's like.

• 1:44:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, let me see what you're talking about.

• 1:44:35Speaker 06

  She's saying that the, the security at the Super Bowl, she's like, the frickin' secret service, they were like, like checking us and like, I got dumber.

• 1:44:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, let me just see what you're talking about.

• 1:44:43Speaker 06

  I got dumber.

• 1:44:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop it, Vinny.

• 1:44:45Speaker 06

  Go to the beginning.

• 1:44:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 1:44:47Speaker 06

  She's so dumb.

• 1:44:48Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, just play some, Rob, I can't listen to too much, just.

• 1:44:51Speaker 06

  Look at my shoes.

• 1:44:56Patrick Bet-David?

  What are we doing?

• 1:44:57Speaker 06

  Yeah, look, look, look. She called me three bands. Yeah.

• 1:45:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Three what?

• 1:45:01Speaker 06

  Three thousand dollars. Three thousand dollars, BBD, come on, three bands. Lesser. Now I hate him lesser. Like, is she ignorant? I make him, you're not saying the right- We had to go up to the Super Bowl. I like him lesser. She's educated.

• 1:45:16Speaker 06

  Look at her, oh my god. But you gotta understand. This is all, everybody's fault that listens to her music, you guys made this person. I don't really like him.

• 1:45:24Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna be okay, guys.

• 1:45:25Speaker 06

  Oh, god. Now I'm gonna have to- Well, I'm really looking forward to her Nobel Prize acceptance speech. Everything is just completely emotional and no one has the best, whether it's her and her stupid uncle that got that kid away, or Selena Gomez was, oh my god. I mean, what's her- I'm sorry. Do we know anything about the uncle thing? I can't. Yeah, the, the, the ending clip is her saying like, he got deported. Her uncle got deported, who knows? Yeah, right there. But I just feel like it's emotional, or like, the best is when a guy's like, listen. Or she's just saying something. Listen. You wanna hear it? Yeah, definitely.

• 1:45:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I really don't, but-

• 1:45:56Speaker 06

  I, I don't, I'm just asking. Cause my uncle got deported. Yeah. Good. That's all she says. Yeah. I want my uncle to come back, cause my uncle got deported.

• 1:46:05Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, can you imagine if somebody really investigates who her uncle is, and her uncle is tied to some pedo, some trafficking, some stuff like that, it's like, ah. Yeah.

• 1:46:15Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's why he got deported.

• 1:46:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Thank you, Ice, if that's the case. If it's not, if it was tied to something else and he's doing everything right legally and all that other stuff, then that's a different discussion.

• 1:46:23Speaker 06

  Pat, you know the best videos, though?

• 1:46:24Patrick Bet-David?

  What?

• 1:46:25Speaker 06

  When the guy's like, listen, guys, I don't know how to tell you this, but, look, my mother-in-law, who lives on

• 1:46:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's the best one.

• 1:46:32Speaker 06

  147 Elm Street, and she's, she's an illegal immigrant. She doesn't have a dog and the back door's usually locked mid-morning. And it's unlocked, my mother-in-law.

• 1:46:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Please stop crying, Adam, seriously, stop. Alright, let's go to the next one here.

• 1:46:45Speaker 06

  Anyway, my mother-in-law, she's-

• 1:46:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you need a mother-in-law. Okay, so next one here. Entry, entry, entry level homes in Miami are going extinct. It's a Wall Street Journal story and I have some thoughts on this. But I'm gonna go to Mr. Ellsworth first because he's a biz doc. So.

• 1:47:05Speaker 06

  It's true.

• 1:47:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Entry level homes in Miami are going extinct as a single family prices skyrocket. The number of sales under $500,000 dropping. Ready? Seventy-nine point six percent from 2019 to 2024. Vinny, let me say this to you one more time. Folks, please listen to this. The number of houses under the price of $500,000 dropped 80%. There's 80% fewer homes under 100, under $500,000 in five years. We're not talking 20 years, five years, okay? Anna Bozovic. All right. Founder of Analytics Miami explained the market below $500,000 is going extinct. It's kind of shocking.

• 1:47:49Patrick Bet-David?

  In December 2019, there were 3,518 singly, single-family homes listed under 500,000. But by December of 2024, it went from 3,518 to 641. Big shit. Rising home values, high land prices and construction costs have pushed most of these homes into higher price tiers with the median sale price cutting hitting 675 into December, up 78% from 2019. Rob, is that active listings right now? Can you? Yep. Can you go up a little bit to see, look, because I can't see the cameras. I know the other way, the other way, Rob, yeah. So that's active listings from 2015 to today in Miami? Wow. Is that really what that is? And can you go into homes sold? Go a little bit lower on the next one?

• 1:48:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Homes sold annually, this is specific to Miami. What was it in 2015, Rob? 12,800.

• 1:48:41Speaker 06

  And today it is 2,229. So I'm not moving to Miami anytime soon.

• 1:48:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Luxury real estate has surged with a number of single-family home sales above 10 million, increasing 248%. So 10 million dollar homes in Miami have gone up 250% from 2019 to 2020, and Miami's top 1% home threshold jumping from 3.5 million to 10 million, 3X. Bozovic noted, these price points didn't exist pre-COVID. The sheer appetite is completely different reality. Notable sales, including hedge fund Ken Griffin, record-breaking 100 million dollar purchase. Bezos spending 234 million dollars assembling a compound on Indian Creek, and soccer star David Beckham and his wife, Victoria Beckham, buying a 72 million dollar home mansion that set off a market frenzy. Thomas?

• 1:49:27Tom Ellsworth?

  So, here's what happened. Three things happened. And then there's a solution, there's a way out. The first thing is the number of listings are down historically. Why is that? Because a lot of people have those 2% to 4% mortgages, and they don't want to sell their houses. So the actual supply of houses is down. Then, we printed money. Biden printed money, which artificially increased the price of assets. Because there was more money, and price of assets went up artificially, but it stayed there because of its money supply. And then you have demand. People moving to Florida. Listen to those names. They're not in New York. Ken Griffin, the Beckhams, you know, all those folks, the Bezos.

• 1:50:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Bezos moved from California, um, down here. So you have incredible demand. So you have, inventory is down. Demand is up, people moving here for the inventory that is available. And the money, you printed money, so the price went up. So what do we need? We need more building in the outlying areas, so they have more family areas. Except, on the east side of Miami, there's this thing that prevents building called the Atlantic Ocean. And on the west side of Miami, there's a thing that prevents building called the Everglades. So Miami- is kinda out of space.

• 1:50:52Tom Ellsworth?

  So it's kinda part of urban planning as industrial areas and things get repurposed to encourage developers, to give them incentives to build, you know, maybe more condos and low-income housing. So the workers have a place to live. That's a good thing. And if you build enough of them, then you're gonna have some price moderation. And if the interest rates on mortgages come down, you're gonna, people wanna sell existing houses. But Miami's price has gone up and the overall net price of the area is, is probably not gonna go down anytime soon.

• 1:51:26Patrick Bet-David?

  So what's the solution, Tom?

• 1:51:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, the solution is, is slow. It's like Miami is going to be an expensive place.

• 1:51:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna give you a solution. You ready? Here's a solution. May I? Okay, here's what I think the solution is. I think exactly what Miami is going through is what happened to California and multiple cities, where people with money showed up. And then guess what? You don't have a choice. That's what the market's gonna pay for that community. And you're gonna have to pay it. You don't want it? Don't worry about it. Move out. So if I'm long in any city in the state of Florida, you know what I'm long on? Fort Lauderdale. Okay, Fort Lauderdale. I am long on Fort Lauderdale. Why? Because you got Palm Beach, which is a different climate, okay?

• 1:52:16Patrick Bet-David?

  You got Boca, very different climate. Boca's a great area. Boca could be the Glendale of California. Meaning if Armenians wanna move to a city that reminds them of Glendale, go to Boca Raton. There's a Armenian Catholic church. It's a great place to go to. Boca would be a great place for Persians, Iranians, Armenians, Assyrians to move to. It's not like as if I'm lobbying, but Aric, Bolorit Aric. Ta, ta laka, ta, ta mun to, to Boca, kush Boca, lah?

• 1:52:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I couldn't agree more.

• 1:52:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Biain, biain ja, biain ja, biain, bora Boca, Boca Raton. It's a great city, right? But I think Fort Lauderdale is gonna have the next explosive growth, the next 10 to 20 years. Why do I think that? It's because I don't think it's gonna slow down of people moving to Florida. I don't think that's slowing down. I think where they slow down to is gonna be Miami because it's way too expensive. And I also think a lot of people are gonna sell their homes in Miami and move up to Fort Lauderdale with that additional equity that they've made, with the market that's willing to go there. If they wanna pay you for a big check for the place, do it. If not, there's gonna be some changes taking place. Alright, so, go for it, Adam.

• 1:53:21Speaker 06

  No, I just think you're spot on. I mean, a lot of my friends who are married with kids no longer live in Miami. They live in places like Cooper City, or Pembroke Pines, or anywhere just Broward, west of Fort Lauderdale. And there's a lot of people that are basically moving up to Palm Beach area, whether it's Port St. Lucie, Vero, Stewart, where they're just priced out of Miami. This is supply and demand. Miami, thanks to Mayor Francis Suarez, thanks to Governor Ron DeSantis, Miami's the best city in America right now, straight up. Whether it's taxes, whether it's climate, whether it's business, all that and then some. If you can avoid some of the shadier dealings that go down in Miami, there's no better place to live than South Florida these days. By the way, one of my good friends,

• 1:54:03Speaker 06

  Realtor in Miami, Gio, he said a starter home now costs a million dollars in Miami, and oftentimes, that's for an older home that's pre-1950s, especially if you're closer to Biscayne Bay. But also, the downside is, alright, so let's say you're like, I don't want a single-family home, I want to go get a condo. Condos are expensive, and we see what's going on with homeowners' insurance, we see what's going on with taxes, we see what's going on with HOAs. It's, people are getting priced out, but if you want to live in some fun place, you gotta pay the price.

• 1:54:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I agree.

• 1:54:38Speaker 06

  Too much traffic for me.

• 1:54:39Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a beautiful place. We were in Miami this past week doing a podcast with Jake Paul at his, what do you call it, Better Headquarters. Dude, what a freaking cool place. He had a dog, that if Brooklyn was there, he would have thought, that's a horse. That dog was so big, yesterday Brooklyn is running and screaming in ways I've never heard her do.

• 1:55:01Speaker 06

  Why?

• 1:55:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Jimbo was chasing her. But Jimbo's playing, she thought he was chasing her. She was so scared. And Jimbo's 15 pounds. This 150 pound. But anyways, we're trying to leave Miami to come back. I don't know how long it took us to get on the freeway.

• 1:55:15Speaker 06

  What do you mean? One light, one longer light, took us 20 minutes?

• 1:55:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't believe you.

• 1:55:20Speaker 06

  I'm telling you right now. I've never been late. One time coming from Miami. Zero interest. There's no traffic. Bro. There's definitely no cars on fire on the highway. Keep Miami, listen. It is. Five hundred thousand dollar homes, million dollars.

• 1:55:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Natural reaction was a flip flop. Just go like this or quit my, my hand was about to go like this.

• 1:55:39Speaker 06

  I'm really gonna pow pow?

• 1:55:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:40Speaker 06

  Keep Miami.

• 1:55:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Flip flop.

• 1:55:41Speaker 06

  Keep Miami. Guys, I'm telling you.

• 1:55:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways, alright, so.

• 1:55:43Speaker 06

  Traffic's beautiful, guys.

• 1:55:43Patrick Bet-David?

  We're, we're about to wrap this up with a couple of other stories and then we're done. Folks, um, Trump demands NCAA strip trans athletes of women's titles. Okay, and then he follows up, which this next one, which I love this next story and I agree with him and I think it's gonna happen actually. So, Trump, um, Department of Education, Department of Education demands that the NCAA strip transgender athletes of any women's titles or records they won after transitioning. Calling it a matter of urgent importance in a letter to NCAA president, Charlie Baker and NFHS, National Federation of State High School Associations Chief Bob Lombardi,

• 1:56:26Patrick Bet-David?

  the letter argued that past policies denying the material reality of sex inflicted harm and that reversing them would restore a genuine commitment to girls and women's quality of opportunity in athletic competition. Across the US, Trump, who issued an executive order on his first day title, keeping men out of women's sports, declared the war on women's sports is over while his administration empowered federal agencies to penalize non-compliant entities. The Department of, uh, Education Department announced investigations to San Jose State University, University of Pennsylvania, Massachusetts Interscholastic Athletic, Athletic Association for the alleged title, uh, uh, is that Title IX? Title IX violations. By the way, he also, he also said to adopt, Rob, is this the one about the Olympics?

• 1:57:10Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:57:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Play this clip, Rob, go for it.

• 1:57:11Speaker 05

  But Marco is going to make clear to the International Olympic Committee is there and he's gonna make it as clear as anybody can make it that America. Categorically rejects transgender lunacy. We want them to change everything having to do with the Olympics and having to do with this absolutely ridiculous subject that we even have to talk about this subject. If you went back 10 years or 15 years and you would move forward and listen to this, you'd say, what the hell are they talking about? This is impossible. But you have people out there, Democrats, that are still totally in favor. They can't win the argument. They can't win a debate. They look like fools and they continue to go on. And it's okay because as long as they do this and open borders and all of the other

• 1:57:55Speaker 05

  things they talk about transgender, everything, all they want to do is transgender and men playing in women's sports and all of these crazy things. And if they continue, they're, I think we're going to end up ultimately, it's not going to matter because we're never going to go along with them and we're just going to keep winning elections.

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• 1:59:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Benny.

• 1:59:14Speaker 06

  Uh, listen, I mean, you want to talk about common sense? I, I, I, I'm still in disbelief that for that, this past four years and a little bit before, that we were even, not only entertaining the idea, we let grown men, meaning they still have all their junk, all the twigs and berries, and we're letting them compete with women, and just, the entire left was like, "How dare you? These are strong women, they're, uh, you know, you know, you're, you're, you're trans-hating, or you're homophobic," like, all that, all the nonsense, it's, it, it, it's, it's embarrassing as a nation that the President of the United States has to go up there and say, "Listen, you know the dudes that were playing with the chicks?

• 1:59:58Speaker 06

  That's not cool, we're gonna give it to the, to the, to the women." And I'm just shocked at this, uh, the, Pat, I can't even articulate the words, that we let it go on for so long, now that we, like, that, that's an issue. With all the other stuff that's happening, with the border, and ice, and economy, and inflation, and all that, he has to go up there, waste his time, to be like, "Oh, by the way, those dudes are gonna lose their medals, and we're gonna give it back to the actual women." It's unbelievable, and I'll wait for Tom to talk, because I'm gonna talk about the sanctuary city, uh, situation in Worcester too.

• 2:00:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think this is great, and this is common sense, and I think what you saw in that clip there, over Trump's shoulder, beaming, absolutely smiling and beaming is Riley Gaines, and if they strip Leah Thomas, uh, um, a, a swimmer, who allegedly hooked up with a female swimmer from another school- How dare he? -within a week of, this is the, the thing, it's allegedly, within a week, he was in a da- in a da- in a dating relationship, and hooked up with a female swimmer with fully functioning male junk- Took him there. And, but stood there on the podium with that, I look forward to the day, if they strip the titles, that Riley Gaines stands there, she finished second place after years

• 2:01:12Tom Ellsworth?

  of training, years of going through it, and to receive the award that she rightly won. I'd like to see that, she has taken so much heat, she was beaten to death by the media for, for- protesting yet. She was called, you know, insensitive. She was called, you know, transphobic. And all she said was, I just want to call myself the champion. That's all I want to call myself. Will someone please call me champion? And I'm looking forward to that. What's also interesting, where's the Olympics coming to? The Summer Olympics?

• 2:01:41Patrick Bet-David?

  California.

• 2:01:42Tom Ellsworth?

  To Los Angeles. So, and Sebastian Coe, Seb Coe is actually Sebastian Coe. When I grew up, he was one of the guys that, um, not idols, but he was one of the runners I really admired. You know, John Walker, New Zealand, Sebastian Coe, Steve Ovet, you know, Doug Padilla, these were runners, distance runners at that time. And Sebastian Coe has been this voice of reason saying, hey, look, why don't we find ways to so trans people can feel included, but just not in the female category. He's been saying that this whole time. So there is common, so all the people that were beat down, that were hiding behind and like not allowed to say what they really felt, are now coming up and saying, hey, this is what I felt, but

• 2:02:23Tom Ellsworth?

  I just wasn't allowed to say that way. I hope the Olympics moves because if they want to come to LA and they still want to come to LA on American soil with these rules, I think Trump's gonna have something to say about it.

• 2:02:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Good. Adam.

• 2:02:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you know, when we, uh, this was the podcast I think we did in, uh, in DC when we were basically saying, you know, what was some of the things that on Trump's agenda that I think were, that won him the election. And I was like, look, I think this trans thing as small of a mini school issue as it is, literally, uh, took over the United States. I mean, the whole Dylan Mulvaney thing, everything that was going with Leah Thomas and Riley Gaines, it's just sort of, it's shocking. And when Trump gets on stage and he's like, the transgender gender, you know, I don't care if your name is Brandon, you want to go by Brenda? I don't think so, honey. Uh, I think, I think it resonates with people.

• 2:03:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it.

• 2:03:15Tom Ellsworth?

  And they, uh, No, you don't think so?

• 2:03:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I think yes. I think that's, I fully agree. That point was made by Mr. Ellsworth. I want to see if you had a different angle of thoughts to say about this.

• 2:03:28Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 2:03:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Because I think, okay, so that's where you're at.

• 2:03:30Tom Ellsworth?

  I think if you look at this picture right here, Leah Thomas, I think it-

• 2:03:33Speaker 06

  It's ma'am!

• 2:03:34Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, it's... Look, there-

• 2:03:37Speaker 06

  The fact that we let it happen, bro. The fact that-

• 2:03:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:40Speaker 06

  Everybody, not us, but that one side was like, let them live their truth. And it all started, you know where this all started? Bruce Jenner. This, the moment-

• 2:03:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey, hey, hey, it's Caitlyn.

• 2:03:50Speaker 06

  No, no, he was Bruce, I know I'm dead naming. When he walked out of the ESPN Awards in his white dress and people were going crazy, and he went to the mic and he was like, "I just wanna..." You're so lazy. At least attempt to change your voice. And the one thing that bothered me is they kept going, "He's a, he's a hero. He's a..." Why? Because he got fake boobs? No, no, no. That word "hero" was thrown around so much. I could, like, military soldiers that we know that fought in war, those are heroes. The only way he'd be a hero is if those boobs, ISIS had them, and he had to go kill two ISIS guys and bring the boobs back? Then he's a hero. There's no hero in this talk.

• 2:04:28Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm trying to figure that. I normally agree with you, but I'm trying to figure out the import-export killing and boob thing.

• 2:04:32Speaker 06

  Well, like, you're a hero in war.

• 2:04:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna go to this next story.

• 2:04:36Speaker 06

  Go ahead.

• 2:04:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Massachusetts City OKs, sanctuary city status for transgender community. Rob, if you want to play the clip, then I'm gonna go to Vinnie, and then we're gonna wrap up. Go for it. Massachusetts OKs, if you want me to read it here, Tom, Rob, before you find it-

• 2:04:49Tom Ellsworth?

  I have it. It's, so, just so you know, this is a rather long clip, but there's a whole, it's a montage of different drag queens and transgender-

• 2:04:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Show it to us. It's beautiful.

• 2:04:57Speaker 00

  I need the city to protect me because the federal government won't. And if you think you're afraid of Trump, you should see how afraid of Trump I am.

• 2:05:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you wrap up, please?

• 2:05:11Speaker 00

  If you say that you're afraid of Trump and that's why you don't want city to be, the city to be a space, safe space-

• 2:05:16Speaker 05

  for trans people, you better prepare for trans people to make this a very unsafe space.

• 2:05:22Speaker 03

  Threat. I'm shaking right now. I don't want to be here.

• 2:05:27Speaker 05

  He's pissed.

• 2:05:28Speaker 03

  I'm sorry, am I taking too long pleading for my life?

• 2:05:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You remembered how many children I have and how many, and that two of them are trans.

• 2:05:36Speaker 06

  This person has, it's ma'am.

• 2:05:39Patrick Bet-David?

  And the T in the LGBT. Yeah, queen. I'm multiply disabled. I have Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, which is a connective tissue disorder that causes me immense physical pain. I, um, I'm on the autism spectrum. And I have narcolepsy and I couldn't drive myself here. So I had to hide from my driver that I was in drag, which is not an easy thing to do in drag. I do not want to be here. It's my day off. I do not want to be in your DMs. Is that a joke? I do not want to be in your email inboxes. I do not want my creativity writing diss tracks like Kendrick. I don't want to spend an hour applying glitter on my face so that you will hear and see me.

• 2:06:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I want you to listen to me. Rob, stop.

• 2:06:27Speaker 06

  Let us remember. Who's this lady?

• 2:06:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, let me see this one. This one sounds exciting.

• 2:06:32Speaker 06

  This lady right here. The Nazis burned the books that, uh, the, the Nazis burned books on gender sciences first. Now the administration has villainized and marginalized migrant workers, trans, LGP, LG, LGBT people, and even special needs, denying and like saving and affirming.

• 2:06:53Speaker 03

  Can you look at me and tell me how many of my friends need to die before you do anything? Look at me.

• 2:07:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, these people are making a great point.

• 2:07:03Speaker 03

  Don't kill me.

• 2:07:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course, we need to continue celebrating Black History Month.

• 2:07:09Speaker 06

  Stop, do you, okay, do you see, okay.

• 2:07:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Who are your friends here, Vinny?

• 2:07:13Speaker 06

  Well, first of all.

• 2:07:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Who are these friends? And by the way, this, this really happened at a city council.

• 2:07:18Speaker 06

  Yeah, and if you were, if you were in an elevator and that first chick got, I don't know what that was, walked in, it's a freaking person, and I pray that they can find, God helps them in whatever way, these are mentally ill people, okay? And this fake narrative of, "They're gonna kill us." That's the complete opposite, okay? It's the transgender community that are responsible for the majority of the past freaking mass shootings. Am I, am I making this up? The majority of them, and they keep hiding their stupid manifestos from us because they don't want to know the real thing, is that these people have problems. And I don't know if you guys saw this, I'm pretty sure some of the people in the audience did. Did you see Cynthia Nixon? She's the washed up actress, actress from Sex and the City.

• 2:08:03Speaker 06

  Did you guys see her? She was out there, she's protesting against, she's protesting against Trump's executive order to protect kids from insanity child mutilations. And this is their big revelation. I want you guys to hear this and see what this movement and why those people are in city council meetings because the people like this that they look up to are pushing this stupid agenda. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:08:24Speaker 07

  I am here today as the mother of a proud trans man.

• 2:08:31Speaker 06

  Celebrating it.

• 2:08:34Speaker 07

  I am here today as the aunt of a proud trans man.

• 2:08:41Speaker 07

  My best friend's kid is trans.

• 2:08:44Speaker 06

  How does she get so many trans things going on?

• 2:08:46Speaker 07

  My best friend is trans.

• 2:08:48Speaker 06

  Her best flatch.

• 2:08:51Speaker 07

  My wife and I, our lives are filled with the most amazing, beautiful, brave, trans people, young and old, but especially young.

• 2:09:07Speaker 07

  My trans kid had his top surgery at NYU a number of years ago.

• 2:09:15Speaker 06

  This is Hollywood pushing their-

• 2:09:17Speaker 07

  His doctors were fantastic.

• 2:09:19Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:09:20Speaker 07

  His surgeon was the best we could have imagined.

• 2:09:23Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:09:24Speaker 07

  And the idea that the city is filled with young people who thought they had a place to go where they could receive the highest care and that place has now been shut to the sickens me.

• 2:09:38Speaker 06

  Rob, okay, do you guys, okay, her entire world is drowning in this ideological freaking cult. Did you, what, what has to happen that everybody in your family, the friends, your son, your daughter, they're all going down this, this cult route? And it's, dude, Trump is stepping in to stop us from one of the most destructive, brainwashing campaigns in history, that taking children and saying, "You can make the decision and I'm gonna support you and chop off your this or chop off your that," is absolutely insane. And these people need to be in a freaking mental institution. Period. Like, what are we even talking about?

• 2:10:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Evil is real. And one of Satan's greatest tricks is first, to make people believe he doesn't exist. And the other thing is what people need to understand is that there is a, a deep evil. And there's deeper evil that you don't see. And there's gonna be a lot of comments, a lot of people come unglued with what I say here. But th- these are not normal reactions. These are not normal reactions. I mean, and it's, it's sad. It's, it's sad at a big level. There's suicide statistics nobody wants to talk about unless they use them at city council to say, "Oh, you're bad and I'm, I'm oppressed." And it's just, it's, it's horrifying. And you see this, the city council meeting, and it goes from people who are making a lifestyle, lifestyle choice, um, to people that are obviously, you know,

• 2:11:00Tom Ellsworth?

  troubled in some way. These are not just, you know, gay people living next door to you and, and living their lives. These people, if you look at them, they're really troubled. And they need help at another level.

• 2:11:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I think, to me, it's flirting with a crime. You're flirting with being a criminal when you say, you know, kids, especially the youth, especially the young, how brave they are. Brave to do what? The young need direction, the young need examples, the young need feedback, the young need to identify who's the right hero and who's not. No, you're confusing kids and to me, you're flirting with being a criminal because what you do to them, they'll be regretting for the rest of their lives. They'll be looking back at 35 years old saying, what the hell did I just buy into? Why didn't somebody tell me I wasn't doing the right thing? You know, they say sometimes kids love it.

• 2:11:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Like I had one of these relatives that I'm sitting down, having a conversation. It's a tough conversation and this happened a few times. And she's one of our, one of the kids in the family. And she'd go back and she'd talk to Jen and would say, you know what? I, I love it when I talk to Patrick and he's holding me accountable because she's like, it's a way of saying, I can't believe he cares so much that he's wanting to hold me disciplined. We want to be held accountable. We want to have somebody that's paying attention to us. We want somebody that's holding us at higher, higher levels. We need that. That's a form of love. That's a form of love, not to sit there and say, do whatever you want to do. No, no, that's not a form of love. That's called, you're not a leader, you're a weak human being.

• 2:12:39Patrick Bet-David?

  And you in a way are a menace to society and it's unfortunate when you see these types of things happening. Anyways, gang, go to VT webinar. I want you to come join us as Kentucky Derby. I will tell you all the details on this webinar and all the new updates and everything that we're doing, especially those of you guys that are watching the podcast. I can't say how many people that say, hey, I'd love for the entire month, for me to be able to talk to everybody else who's watching PBD podcast. You're going to be able to get into a circle to talk to one another where we're going to post the notes, everything that we're doing behind closed doors, having a conversation with the folks of PBD podcast. Sign up, go to VT webinar, put this in your calendar, go to VT webinar right, right there. And then sign up, register for the date and March 4, 3pm, we'll be doing a Zoom of Manek with new updates.

• 2:13:22Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm going to make another announcement of what's going to happen in this webinar next week as well. Stay tuned, but March 4, 3pm, we'll see you guys there. Take care everybody. Bye bye, bye bye.

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