Clinton's Epstein Depositions + Paramount WINS WarnerBros Deal | PBD #748

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana break down the expanding Epstein investigations from Hillary & Bill Clinton’s depositions, Howard Lutnick’s Epstein Island photo, Jack Dorsey’s Block laying off 4,000 people due to AI, and California’s legal loophole that allows pedophiles to go free. ----- 🇺🇸 USA COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3ZURqHe Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that really, was that really playing?

• 0:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, we did it.

• 0:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I have all my glasses on. How does this look by the way? I'm curious.

• 0:43Tom Ellsworth?

  It looked cool. You see a little slot machine at the end?

• 0:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I liked it. You know, do you want to talk about what you did last night?

• 0:48Speaker 02

  Tom?

• 0:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You want to tell them, Tom?

• 0:49Speaker 02

  Don't look at him, Tom.

• 0:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't look at him.

• 0:51Speaker 02

  This wasn't me, I behaved.

• 0:52Patrick Bet-David?

  They went to after hours. Tom last night.

• 0:54Speaker 02

  Playing craps on the table in his boxers?

• 0:56Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not even the worst part. The worst part was when you called me at 3 o'clock and said, come grab Tom. He's playing $1,000 slot machines. And I go down and Tom is saying, he's got a paper and pen and a board.

• 1:08Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:08Patrick Bet-David?

  He's doing the math on how many pulls he'll get. And by the way, he hit $188,000 on one of them.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  But then lost, lost almost half a million. And it was like, no, the Lord's telling me to.

• 1:18Tom Ellsworth?

  No, that was a prop bet. It was a prop bet. I bet that AOC could identify a run on a map.

• 1:23Patrick Bet-David?

  And he kept yelling, words talk, ladies scream. Words talk, ladies scream like, Tom. He got.

• 1:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Actually.

• 1:29Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. We got, we got a few things to talk about. Yesterday, Doc Dorsey let go of, I think, 4,000 people in the most unique way possible, in the most honest way possible. And he tweeted about it. That got 50 million views. And you have to see for some of you guys that are seeing what's going on with AI. And he just kind of came up with his company Block. They used to be called Square. We'll talk about that. Hillary Clinton yesterday went up there and she made an argument why that picture of Ghislaine Maxwell being at her daughter's wedding was a fake. But she actually accepted it, said she was there and deposition took six hours. Somebody, what's her name? Lauren Boebert took a picture, sent it to Benny. Benny posted it, they had to pause it. There's some thoughts on that as well, on whether that was a good idea or not.

• 2:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I think Bill Clinton, her husband, is being deposed today, Rob? Am I saying that correctly?

• 2:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct.

• 2:19Patrick Bet-David?

  It's going to happen today. And then Bill Gates had another rough last 48 hours. And let Nick, there was a picture that came up that allegedly they tried to protect from being leaked and this picture looks strange and some are saying, wait a minute, was he on the island with his kids? Was he not on the island with his kids? Now Comer's coming out saying that maybe he's gonna be helped as well to come up and be deposed to answer those questions. Who knows what's going on? World Economic Forum CEO had to resign and he had to quit Netflix. Last minute, they pulled their deal. They're like, we're not gonna be able to compete. Paramount's gonna be coming in. There's a bunch of stuff that Larry Ellison and David Ellison are about to pick up Paramount. That means CNN could potentially be changing in a major way. There's communication being leaked, email

• 3:04Patrick Bet-David?

  and text communication from CNN employees saying, we are effed at CNN. Can you imagine how some of the people feel right now working over there? There's a lot of scary things that's going on at CNN. Some like it, some don't like it. Who knows what's gonna happen? I think somebody even had to pay a $2.8 billion cancellation fee, Rob, if I'm not mistaken, that had to be paid to Netflix, right? The $2.8 billion. Tom, I'm speaking to you.

• 3:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 3:28Patrick Bet-David?

  The $2.8 billion that had to be paid on-

• 3:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, we'll talk about it. It's called a breakup fee.

• 3:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 3:32Tom Ellsworth?

  And it's big money.

• 3:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So that was, Tom, again, we have a rule with Tom. We're thinking about making a shirt for Tom that says, Tom, Tom, Tom. Because Tom is honestly, how accurate is that? One thought, it'll sell. You have to say his name three times or else he won't. If you run into him, but if you call him Biz Doc, he shines within a first second, he'll say hi to you. But when we say Tom, we gotta say three times here. All right. So then aside from that, we'll talk about the Netflix, we'll talk about the block and square. Mondani's got some stuff that's going on. Newsom's got some stuff that's going on. What do you call it? Jonathan Majors is apparently making an acting comeback for a movie with Daily Wire, which by the way, if that's true, and I think Ben came out and said it's real, I think

• 4:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Jonathan Major's a good actor. And that's a good thing to see stuff like that happening where guys are comfortable going back and forth on doing different movies. And then aside from that, we got some Iran news. Apparently, you know, a lot of people are saying that the communist China is getting Iran's back, but- Report just came out two hours ago that not only are US pulling people out, guess who else is pulling people out of Iran right now? China.

• 4:40Adam Sosnick?

  Weird.

• 4:40Patrick Bet-David?

  China is telling their own people, listen, get out. Something's about to happen to Iran. And who knows, they've been saying this for a while. So whether that's going to be happening right now or later, we don't know. And then Robert De Niro, for some of you guys are big fans of his movies, Heat, or what is it? Godfather, or a couple of the comedy movies that he did. He was very emotional. I know you guys are, you know, feeling bad about it. He was very emotional.

• 5:05Adam Sosnick?

  Casino here in Vegas.

• 5:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he was very emotional because of what happened with, with what do you call it? With Trump. He's, he's very, he's, he wants, he's got some advice for you guys. It's resist, resist, resist. Trump is what he had to say. And, you know, hopefully you guys will listen to it because he was very, very sentimental, emotional about it. And then the Hulk, who's the other guy? The Hulk, Ruffalo or Mark Ruffalo? Marky. Marky, yeah, he was furious, you know, about the wall tax saying, listen, we got, we attacked the rich people in New York. And we'll see what his thoughts are. Ted Sarandos, CEO of Netflix, went to the White House. Some are saying they didn't meet with the president. Everyone's saying he didn't meet with the president. And Netflix, some people are sitting there saying, look, Trump said, remove Susan Rice off your board.

• 5:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And she started it based on what Tom was telling me yesterday. And then they didn't. So because of not pulling him off, then what comes back to it is, you know, maybe that was one of the reasons some people are speculating. Who knows? Who knows what the reasonings are? But we will get into that. Okay. Having said that, before we get into all these stories, Rob, what do we have here? Which one is this? A USA collection. Okay, so USA collection is what we got right now, Rob. If you want to play the clip, go for it.

• 6:14Speaker 04

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  Go to ETmerch.com, place your order for ValueTaming USA merch that we have there. And again, like I said, I love seeing our folks, the best of the best, the smartest fans in the world. You that likes debate, that likes fun, you're a value taming type of person yourself. If you believe the future looks bright and you love USA, go pick up some merch for yourself or your friends, for your family, for your clients. Having said that, Lex, did audio get fixed or no?

• 6:58Speaker 05

  They're working on it right now.

• 7:01Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the issue with audio?

• 7:02Speaker 05

  It's coming through with one channel.

• 7:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Which means what?

• 7:05Speaker 05

  So people are able to hear it in, it's coming through mono, so they're able to hear it in one channel, not the other side. So like right side of your earphones, you can hear it, left side you can't, but they're adjusting right now.

• 7:14Tom Ellsworth?

  So people are watching with earbuds on their phone.

• 7:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Didn't we test that out before? We were testing that before.

• 7:18Speaker 05

  Yes, I'm not sure what happened here.

• 7:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, can we get an update? Can one of you guys come in and give us an update? We're live, so this is a live show when stuff like this happens. Come and tell us something.

• 7:27Tom Ellsworth?

  And I hear reverb.

• 7:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me, what's going on?

• 7:30Speaker 06

  We're trying to figure out, but we only have one, the right channel going out right now. We're going to double it up.

• 7:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, all right, so let's see what's going to happen, folks. Stick around, we're trying to figure it out. Rob, when you're hearing the audio, how's it sound? How bad is it?

• 7:48Speaker 05

  It sounds good in one channel, it's just the other channel, it's not coming through on right now.

• 7:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, all right, so then let's get right into it. Let's do, which story should we start off with? If that's the case, we'll get to the Hillary Clinton one. Let's start off with the Bill Gates story here. So Bill Gates, another rough week for him. A story came out with Bill Gates having to apologize to his staff over Epstein ties. Okay, so he had to come out and apologize to his staff about Epstein ties. And as well as apparently two other Russian girls that came out. I don't know what these Russian girl stories are. And then his wife had to, anyways, just watch this clip here for yourself.

• 8:27Speaker 07

  Turned out a Microsoft founder, Bill Gates, his eye-opening apology for his relationship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. In a town hall meeting with employees, Gates admitting to two affairs with Russian women and what he says about the photos of him in the Epstein files. Here's Pierre Thomas.

• 8:43Speaker 08

  Tonight, Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates revealing more damaging information about his personal life and admitting to a series of stunning lapses in judgment in building a relationship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Today, the fallout growing as Gates was pressed by employees at a Gates Foundation town hall. According to the Wall Street Journal, which revealed audio of the meeting, Gates told employees it was a huge mistake to spend time with Epstein. He acknowledged that his relationship with Epstein began after Epstein was convicted of soliciting a minor, and he claimed that he, one of the wealthiest men in the world, did not properly research Epstein's background, which would have revealed his sordid past.

• 9:26Speaker 08

  Knowing what I know now makes it, you know, a hundred times worse. Gates acknowledged his association probably helped Epstein rehabilitate his image, and he revealed other damning specifics, saying the men flew together on a private jet and that they hung out in Germany, France, New York, and Washington. But Gates was adamant that he never witnessed any criminal activity. But Gates did acknowledge he had affairs with two Russian women, and Gates also addressed these photos, saying they were pictures Epstein asked him to take with his assistants. His ex-wife recently saying Gates needs to answer questions.

• 10:01Speaker 09

  Those questions are for those people and for even my ex-husband. They need to answer to those things, not me. And I am so happy to be away from all the muck.

• 10:13Speaker 08

  David Gates' indiscretions contributed to the failure of his marriage, and tonight, another powerful man suffering the consequences of his ties to Epstein. Former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers resigning from Harvard because of his relationship with Epstein. David?

• 10:29Speaker 07

  Here, Thomas, who continues to cover the Epstein case.

• 10:31Speaker 08

  Embarrassing. By the way, all these things used to be a conspiracy theory, if you think about it, a few years ago. Now, all of a sudden, Larry Summers, "Oh, no, no, Harvard, that would never happen to us." Benny, your thoughts on this?

• 10:40Speaker 02

  I mean, and Adam, I have to go right to you, and I know I brought this up a couple weeks ago. Do you remember when we were like, "Is this Epstein thing on the top of every..." Nobody cares, and this is the number one story, Adam, because look at how deep... This web of disgusting demonic people are. And mind you, I feel so bad for his wife, Pat. She's been telling us for how long? She goes, the one time I met Jeffrey Epstein, he was abhorrent. He was evil personified. This is an educated woman. I don't know her faith, Pat. I don't know if she's Christian. I don't know if she's Buddhist. I don't know. I don't care. For her to say that she felt that goes deep. And I want to say one thing. He's a liar. Bill Gates is a liar. And this is the same person that all of us were told to trust.

• 11:24Speaker 02

  For COVID, for putting this experimental freaking vaccine in our bodies. Now, and I'm going to get to that story later on, Pat. Cancer is up. Colon cancer is up. Turbo cancer is up. People are dying left and right. And we trusted these people. And I'm so happy you said that, Pat. We were called that name. Those names that we were these tin foil hat crazy people. We've been screaming this forever and we were told to shut up. We were kicked off of freaking YouTube. We were kicked off of social media. And now everybody's slowly coming around. People are getting fired. People are stepping down. None of them are going to jail. Okay, I think it's disgusting. And Adam, we talked about this yesterday when you're like, Vinnie, I don't see the proof. Adam, this is what we caught them doing. Imagine what we didn't catch them doing, Adam. Because if they knew they could get away with that. Imagine in those rooms.

• 12:09Speaker 02

  Imagine those poor freaking kids getting flown around. Okay, maybe this time he was with, you know, young Russian hookers. What else? Maybe, maybe this one month, he was into something deeper. Something more disgusting. Okay, and it drives me crazy. I'm so happy it's starting to come out now. But these people, these demons need to be held accountable, Pat. Not just, not just, oh, I'm stepping down from my job and I'm sorry. No, no. Accountability, jail time, and more consequences if need be.

• 12:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, Tom, your thoughts? So I don't need to say more about Bill Gates. There used to be publications in Silicon Valley, Valley Wag and others. And you'd be able to go to like Buck's Diner and places that were in Silicon Valley. And let me explain why that's relevant. There was always these rumors that Gates had this other side of him. And the phrase people used to use, you know, there's another side to Bill Gates. You know that, right? There's this guy who appears on the big screen and actually helped Apple. At Steve Jobs' request with some financing, did that and that was good. And then there was the other, the other side, the other, the other bill. And so I don't want to say more about that, other than to say there's where there's smoke, there's fire and a lot of people talking about this and rumors.

• 13:19Tom Ellsworth?

  And now we have the guy confessing with the Russian girls and other things. It's just gooey, but I'll tell you who I want to, I want to, I want to praise. I want to praise the poise of Melinda French Gates. Melinda French Gates, as you know, Pat and I lived in Dallas for about eight years before moving to Florida and she graduated from Ursuline Academy, which is a wonderful school, private school that is in Dallas. She gave money to the school to create a science center. And interestingly enough, you'll find this interesting, Adam. It was named the French Family Science Center at Ursuline. And she also gave, she gave them the largest grant they ever had in history, like in 2005,

• 13:58Tom Ellsworth?

  2006, there've been supplemental grants, also a center for professional career development. And so she's been pouring into these girls there. So when we're sitting in Dallas, we could read news stories and talk to people and we felt like we really had a good picture of Melinda French. And I just, I feel like America needs to give her a collective hug. She was married to a guy that's under the spotlight and she called it the muck. And you know what, Melinda, wherever you are, thank you for what you've done. I hope this doesn't cause you to shy back from your public service and all the things that you've done. Anybody in your situation would probably want to sit back with a cup of coffee and pull the drapes and just, and just ignore the world.

• 14:40Tom Ellsworth?

  But what she did and what she's at and the poise in these interviews, I got a lot of respect for her.

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• 17:02Adam Sosnick?

  So, you know, they say the truth will set you free. So I'm totally understanding that this truth will come out and the roosters will come home to roost, as they say. You know, last night we were talking about, on the plane, on the way here, about... The shows that we watched in the 90s, right? We're talking about Save the Bell. We're talking about Beverly Hills 90210 and the and Bell Rose Place and all that. What am I? What's my point? In the 90s, you know, it was here today, gone tomorrow. None of this stuff would come out. If you did stuff in the 90s and 2000s, there wasn't one thing that we all have today. And that's the internet and that's cell phones.

• 17:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:37Adam Sosnick?

  Everything's gonna be exposed. You so if you do something stupid and wrong, back in the day, you could get away with it.

• 17:43Speaker 02

  You could stuff the news media.

• 17:45Adam Sosnick?

  Now you could bury that. Now everything's coming out and I'm cool with that. I'm not I'm not defending any of these people.

• 17:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, go ahead.

• 17:51Adam Sosnick?

  Whether it's Epstein, whether it's Bill Cosby, whether it's Diddy, whether it's Weinstein, all these things that people were doing pre-internet.

• 17:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:58Adam Sosnick?

  It's all coming out. And so what's my point? Today, young people are gonna learn a lesson. We see people doing stuff on the internet. What do they say? The internet's gonna last forever. So what's the lesson that young people can learn from the Epstein's of the world, the Cosmies of the world? You do something stupid, it's gonna be on the internet forever. The the thing that's going on here is if there was the internet or social media 15, 20, 30 years ago, all this stuff would have come out then.

• 18:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:25Adam Sosnick?

  It's all coming out now. The question is, is it all too little, too late? We're gonna find out.

• 18:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, but but but going to the point from Adam, just from emails that are legitimate Department of Justice emails, the guy is disgusting. He like, Adam, put this in your head. He gave his allegedly gave his wife an STD from Russian hookers and then was asking Jeffrey Epstein, how do I slip? Uh, uh, give me some medicine so I can slip in her drink without her knowing to fix her. This is the guy that with the WHO and all these people, we let this guy take care of our health and anytime we tried to talk about him negatively, everybody, all the mainstream media, all the talk shows, made us look like we were insane.

• 19:02Adam Sosnick?

  Remember, that's allegedly. You gotta say allegedly.

• 19:04Speaker 02

  Allegedly five time. No, Tom, I said allegedly, it's in the Department of Justice emails. It's in these emails. So going back to my point, Adam, can you admit that all this time that what we were saying, we were all told that we were crazy? We were on how many things, Adam? Go back to 9/11, go back to JFK, go back to Trump getting shot in the head. All this stuff adds up to where we're sitting here screaming like, hey, guys into the void. We're telling you, we're telling you evil exists and it's in our face. And Adam, mind you, Bill, this idiot Epstein, how many photos and videos and everything? You know why he did that, Adam? To have dirt on all of them to fricking blackmail them. That's it. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm not denying.

• 19:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to move on. Guys, I want to move on. I got you. So we'll do that and it's a regular thing. For me, by the way, with one thing with Melinda Gates, that she has become this unsung hero of being such an honest lady, whatever. Give me a flipping break. You dated the guy, you became a billionaire, and you agreed on the prenup to allow him to meet with his ex. So don't give me this bullshit nobility stuff.

• 20:03Speaker 02

  Right.

• 20:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, don't play that game with us, the audience. Oh, my God, I am so noble. How many wives would agree on a prenup to see him meet with your ex-girlfriend once a year and do whatever the hell you want to do to her? You tell me who does that. And that's been proven. This agreement allowed Gates to maintain a close relationship with his ex, with whom he shared intellectual interests, such as discussing biotechnology. Yeah, we call that biotechnology. There's a lot of other words I can use for that. And so, yeah, I don't, I don't play her. A part of what, you know, with Hillary, when I watched Hillary yesterday, we all know Bill has done what Bill has done. Okay, we all know what, you know, where Bill has been and how many times he's been. And, you know, he, she came out and she addressed all the questions. But it was a tough day for Hillary because it

• 20:47Patrick Bet-David?

  was deposition, six hours. I think the total time was there. They asked a bunch of different questions. She even said afterwards, they asked me about pizza gate. I don't know about pizza gate. It's one of the most disgusting conspiracy theories, whatever. Is this it, Rob? Yes, sir. So, you know, and in the middle of it, they leaked a picture, but play this, play this of Hillary Clinton going in, agreeing to do this. And she kept saying she wanted to be alive. But go ahead, Rob.

• 21:08Speaker 16

  It then got, at the end, quite unusual because I started being asked about UFOs and a series of questions about pizza gate.

• 21:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Good.

• 21:21Speaker 16

  One of the most vile, bogus conspiracy theories that was propagated on the internet that was serving as the basis of a member's questions to me.

• 21:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, do you have the clip about them asking her about the picture with Ghislaine Maxwell being at the daughter's wedding? Yes, that is. So there's a clip about her being asked, and she answered a question within seven seconds, walked away, came back, and gave credit to James Comer, by the way. She was very complimentary of James Comer. But this is when she was asked about the picture that everyone's seen, when Ghislaine Maxwell sat in the aisle, row six or seven, and that picture's gone viral. People are saying, why was she at your daughter's wedding where only 500 people were invited? And you know, everybody was vetted. Go ahead, Rob.

• 22:12Speaker 06

  Can I ask, why was Kelly Maxwell at Chelsea Clinton's wedding in 2013? She'd already been mentioned in a civil lawsuit by Virginia Dufry before that. Jeffrey Epstein had already been convicted before that.

• 22:29Speaker 16

  She came as the plus one, the guest of someone who was invited.

• 22:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what the follow-up question to that is? You're the freaking first lady. You're the secretary, your husband's a president, it's a high-profile family on the left. You don't think everyone's getting background checked? You think you can go, this isn't like you're going to Club 11, you're like, "Yeah, I got a plus one."

• 22:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 22:52Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. No, you're going to a wedding of the first lady and the former president's daughter. So you knew she was coming.

• 23:00Tom Ellsworth?

  And there's security.

• 23:01Patrick Bet-David?

  And, but by the way, she gave credit to James Comer, and then you got later on today, which her husband's going to be deposed. So, Tom, where are you at with this with Hillary Clinton? That's the picture, by the way, Jelaine Maxwell to the right, if you look back, Rob, we see it right there. Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 23:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I don't think we learned anything about Hillary Clinton's character. She was on brand for the whole, the whole hearing. I mean, that, that's been her, you know, deny, swerve, and things like this. And then now it's come out, and it's just, it's just elephants in the room that she didn't talk about. It's just, as you correctly pointed out, and I, I look at it, and I think it was a hearing that basically ratified everything that we've always held as our conclusions over the last five years. After, Jimmy, eight years after 2016, what we now know happened in Russia, and et cetera, et cetera. It's just, I think she ratified it. There, she made no traction. Do you think, Pat, that in even 1%, she improved or moved her perception back?

• 23:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Or is it just, you know what, that's Hillary, that's her, that's her character, that's on brand?

• 24:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Vinny, do you have any new thoughts about Hillary, anything else?

• 24:06Speaker 02

  Well, I just, I think, well, my opinion, she's a liar, because I sent Rob a couple of emails that were put up from the DOJ that emails from Jeffrey Epstein that said this from him. Hillary Clinton is much prettier in person. If you never met her, how the hell would you know that? Also, look at this. Meetings with Hillary are not easily discreet. When? I know you are close with Hillary, but if she gets the nomination, you vote for her, I'll effing kill you. I would like to invite you to attend a very intimate fundraising event with Hillary, okay? And Bill and Hillary were frequent guests at Epstein's The Zorro Ranch before, um, after they left the White House. The White House advisor logs, they revealed the 17 trips, Pat. And then think about Seth Rich. Seth Rich, when she's talking about pizza gate,

• 24:49Speaker 02

  he's the one that went to WikiLeaks and dropped the dime on all of them and was a whistleblower, and he was murdered in the streets of Washington. So I think she's lying, she's sticking up for him, Pat. But again, I want, I want to see people go to jail, especially if crimes were committed.

• 25:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think they have a choice but to do that now. There's two things that needs to happen, in my opinion. Because this is leading to Lutnick. And Lutnick, we've been complimentary of Lutnick. He's very good on camera, he's done a great job, he's built a great company, successful guy. And picture came out about him with, Rob, I think you have the picture. There's a picture that came out, and everybody said, no, no, no, this is AI, no, this is AI, no, this is AI, no, this is AI. And then eventually they're like, are those two, maybe that's the one that he went with his wife and his two kids? Well, we don't see the wife and two kids. That is the island. That has now been confirmed that that's Jeffrey Epstein in the white shirt and a white pants. And that's Lutnick in the back.

• 25:41Speaker 02

  With blue?

• 25:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 25:42Speaker 02

  That's him.

• 25:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Blue shirt, that's him, in the back. That part's been confirmed. Everybody and everybody has been checking to see if this is a correct thing that happened or no. Because nowadays, you gotta definitely check to see AI, CBS has confirmed it, Grok's confirmed it, a bunch of different AI platforms have confirmed it, who knows, something else may come out. Now, there's a few things. This could be the event where he took his wife and kids, and maybe his wife and kids weren't there. He said he was only there for an hour. So maybe they're the ones on the other side taking the pictures, maybe. Maybe that's what's going on. But, you know, when you, when you, when you read the story, I'll read the story to you on page five. And I want to, I want to come to you guys on this one here. I cannot read it because, uh, Printing didn't do a good job on it.

• 26:22Patrick Bet-David?

  But when you, when you look at this story with Howard Lutnick, Rob, zoom in to see if I can read any of it. Okay, a photo of President Donald Trump, Howard Lutnick, gotta go a little bit lower. Uh, the picture shows the pedophile walking ahead of the financier at St. James Island, where they visited for a picnic with his wife and his children and his nannies. Okay, go a little bit lower. The picture was located by Gmail, a site run by two tech workers who have created a searchable version of Epstein's Gmail inbox by downloading all of the files. The group posted a link on it to the image, which a DOJ file name, the file name was et cetera, et cetera, does not match the results of DOJ's Epstein website, suggesting it had been deleted.

• 27:05Patrick Bet-David?

  So this is the controversy here, that they took it down. Now, why did they take it down? Is it because he's an insider? Is it because he's got a job? So that's the part where, you know, people start saying you're protecting him and they get credible, they get credit. They say, now you see what you're doing, now you see what you're doing, now you're protecting him? And some are even saying that Trump didn't know about it, that DOJ was doing it, and then it's making Trump look bad, no matter what it is. You know, in the U, in, in Ca, in UK, when this took place with Andrew. Andrew, they not only, you know, dropped him from the family and now he got arrested, right? And they're going after him, as well as the other guy, Mandelson, Madelson, I don't know how to say his name, another guy that had to step down.

• 27:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Peter Mandelson, that had to go through. So at this point of the game, you know, there are certain things that you can just look here while you have a massive issue on this side. Sometimes you just gotta go ahead on and talk about it and address it, make some decisions. So Benny, I know you have some opinions on this Howard Lutnick picture that came out, and Adam, you do as well, I'll come to you first.

• 28:08Adam Sosnick?

  So we were talking about Hillary Clinton a second ago, now we're talking about Lutnick. Uh, you know, there's a cool club going on here in the world, and you're not invited. And you know who also wasn't invited, it seems, is Donald Trump? Because all these people, all these names keep popping up, you know, every single one of them will be considered this one word, what's that one word? The elite. And the one story that we hear about Trump was that the elite was no fan of Donald Trump. So what did Trump do was go out and build his own thing, put Trump on everywhere, went and bought Mar-a-Lago, had his own events. So Trump Wasn't he the guy that kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago? Wasn't, wasn't Trump the guy that was sort of blackballed by all the illegal stuff in New York? That's why he came down to Florida, built his own thing?

• 28:51Tom Ellsworth?

  He did an interview with the police about him in West Palm Beach?

• 28:54Adam Sosnick?

  There you go. So, by the way, all these names keep popping up. Okay, so Howard Lutnick actually did meet Epstein. It wasn't just he was creeped out when he met him before. What's going on there? Scott Besson was part of the Trump administration. Who did he work for, for a long time? Who was that? George Soros. So, all these things are interweaving and it's all going on like that. But Vinnie wants accountability. And here's the bad news for Vinnie. Nothing's gonna happen.

• 29:21Speaker 02

  God will watch.

• 29:22Adam Sosnick?

  You might get, you might get people to step down. You might get people to be shamed. But I know you want heads to roll. I know you want heads to roll and I know you want people to go to jail. I don't see any of these people. Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates. I'm speaking.

• 29:38Speaker 02

  I'm sorry.

• 29:39Adam Sosnick?

  I'm speaking.

• 29:40Speaker 02

  I'm sorry.

• 29:41Adam Sosnick?

  I don't see any of them going to jail. And the last thing. Hillary Clinton. I, I actually believe Hillary Clinton that she had no affiliation with Epstein. Why? Because Hillary Clinton ain't trying to bang little girls. But Bill Clinton, on the other hand, may have some explaining to do.

• 29:58Speaker 02

  Well, Adam, what about business? I don't think all of this was just hooking up with underage girls.

• 30:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think anybody in the US is gonna get arrested? Anybody?

• 30:06Adam Sosnick?

  Anybody? I'm sure there'll be a full guy.

• 30:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Name some heavyweights.

• 30:09Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 30:09Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think any heavyweights will?

• 30:11Adam Sosnick?

  Give me a names and I'll tell you my opinion. Gates, no. Bill Clinton, no.

• 30:17Speaker 02

  I think somebody has, I think, I think somebody has to go to jail.

• 30:21Adam Sosnick?

  That has a B next to their name, billionaire?

• 30:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you.

• 30:23Adam Sosnick?

  Anyone that's been a former president?

• 30:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You think?

• 30:25Adam Sosnick?

  I do not see them going to jail.

• 30:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let me ask you.

• 30:27Adam Sosnick?

  If you give me names, I'll answer them.

• 30:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You think what Edward Snowden and Julian Assange did? Do you think the modern day Edward Snowden and Julian Assange are more advanced and better than they were?

• 30:41Adam Sosnick?

  Well, of course.

• 30:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course, it will. Wait till those guys get to work. Wait.

• 30:45Adam Sosnick?

  Why aren't they working on it yet?

• 30:46Patrick Bet-David?

  They are. What I'm trying to tell you is, this, this direction it's going.

• 30:50Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 30:51Patrick Bet-David?

  You remember when everybody on X was talking about Epstein? And I would constantly go on YouTube and look at Fox and CNN. I would see how many videos were about Epstein and it wasn't that many. Do you remember that? I don't know if you remember this. So we would be talking about Epstein and it's like, America doesn't care about Epstein. It's a Twitter story, right? You remember this? And even CNN did a poll one time saying, 1% of people think-

• 31:12Adam Sosnick?

  Not 1%?

• 31:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, it was less than-

• 31:14Adam Sosnick?

  1%.

• 31:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Right. But, but guess what? Do me a favor, go to YouTube and go to Fox News. This is Fox News, keep in mind. This is not CNN. Go to their channel and go to videos, Rob. Watch how many videos.

• 31:24Adam Sosnick?

  Boom.

• 31:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Second one, Epstein, okay? Go to 6th one, Epstein. 8th one, Epstein. 9th one, Epstein. Okay, keep going.

• 31:36Adam Sosnick?

  Epstein.

• 31:36Patrick Bet-David?

  11th one, 12th one, Epstein. Okay, guess what? You know what this means? This is the power of media. The power of media and the people got so sick of it because of the way Pam Bondi fumbled this. She did.

• 31:51Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, I agree with that.

• 31:52Patrick Bet-David?

  That the people are finally saying, "I'm effing sick of it." Tell me what the hell happened? And folks are sitting there saying, "Tell me..." So that pressure, you think that pressure is gonna go away? You think it's going higher or lower?

• 32:05Adam Sosnick?

  Well, the question is, do you think Trump is gonna keep the pressure on? Or basically try to diffuse-

• 32:09Patrick Bet-David?

  He doesn't have a control over that. Because once the audience gets to a point, so you can, you can, you know, once the audience and the pressure goes to a point, you eventually have to react.

• 32:19Adam Sosnick?

  Do you think the pressure is now higher than ever?

• 32:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course it is.

• 32:22Adam Sosnick?

  Than ever with Epstein?

• 32:23Patrick Bet-David?

  With this topic?

• 32:24Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 32:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course it is.

• 32:25Adam Sosnick?

  Why do you think it's so much higher now?

• 32:26Patrick Bet-David?

  You think Hillary and Bill are gonna let this go and allow them to be publicly humiliated? You don't know the crap theory? You don't think they're gonna, you don't think they're making calls saying, "I swear to God, if you do this, I'm gonna tell them about what you did." "That one time in DC, I'm gonna tell them about what you did." "That one time of Hawaii, I'm gonna tell them about that deal that we paid you on the side with cash, "with the briefcase that was dropped." Go ahead and throw us under the bus. Go ahead, do it. You don't think she's making those calls? Do you not see her cold stone- Stone cold a personality on how she did the interview like a frickin mobster. She stayed like a Teflon. Don't forget as much of a

• 33:02Adam Sosnick?

  That's her personality.

• 33:03Patrick Bet-David?

  As much of a badass as Trump is. If there's a female Trump without the personality. That is an equal without the personality, without the charm. That thinks very highly of herself. It's that lady right there Hillary Clinton.

• 33:18Adam Sosnick?

  But didn't we argue a few weeks ago like? She's not even gonna come on either. If she comes, was there no point of her coming?

• 33:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't

• 33:25Adam Sosnick?

  The fact that she's volunteering to come.

• 33:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 33:27Adam Sosnick?

  Means she probably has nothing to hide in this instance.

• 33:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know about that.

• 33:30Adam Sosnick?

  Is she the big fish or is Bill Clinton the big fish?

• 33:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't, I don't know what, I don't know.

• 33:33Adam Sosnick?

  Why are we still focused on Hillary when it's Bill that needs to be

• 33:35Patrick Bet-David?

  How close is Melinda Gates with Hillary Clinton? How close is Melinda Gates? Rob, can you, can you type in? How close is Melinda Gates with Hillary Clinton? And let me tell you what, I'll go with this one here. You know why I'm going with this or no? Okay, how close is Melinda Gates with Hillary Clinton? Well, if they're close. Do they have a relationship? They worked together, Melinda Gates Foundation. Not a personal close relationship. Okay. They partnered. Look, maybe, maybe she is sitting there. How, how much you think her and Bill are fully aligned on how to handle this deposition?

• 34:09Adam Sosnick?

  Hillary and Bill?

• 34:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 34:11Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, they're business partners at this point.

• 34:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Hundred percent they're aligned. One hundred percent because he's coming in today. So the way she answered, she answered as if she's not done anything wrong. That's not how the husband's gonna do it. How many times has the husband been to the island? What are you gonna do with that? We have photos of it. How many times did Epstein come to the White House? No, she could play dumb.

• 34:29Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 34:30Patrick Bet-David?

  But he can't.

• 34:31Adam Sosnick?

  I agree.

• 34:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So part of it here is, are you doing that to make yourself look good and make your husband look bad? I don't know.

• 34:37Adam Sosnick?

  No, I don't, I don't think you're married for 50 years and all of a sudden, last second, you throw him under the

• 34:41Patrick Bet-David?

  But you don't know that. But you don't know that. I'm saying, we're about to find out. But to me, the pressure is so bad right now that behind closed doors, they're saying. We have to do something for optics purposes.

• 34:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Sure.

• 34:55Patrick Bet-David?

  And what is that going to be? So question for you.

• 34:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 34:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think that picture being shown, is that going to do anything where Rob is a podcast doing fine?

• 35:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 35:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Do you think that picture being shown with Lutnick right there? You think that's going to cause the White House to uh uh an announcement coming out next week saying Howard Lutnick has decided to step down.

• 35:13Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think you can stay silent. How do you stay silent?

• 35:17Adam Sosnick?

  Well, especially given what he said. What's the one thing?

• 35:19Tom Ellsworth?

  He lied.

• 35:19Adam Sosnick?

  I met Epstein one time and he lived right across the hall and I said, I'll never associate with this guy again. Number one, we agreed, guys don't talk like that. Number two.

• 35:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Absolutely.

• 35:29Adam Sosnick?

  He lied, apparently, apparently. And we're all fans of Lutnick. We like what he's doing.

• 35:34Tom Ellsworth?

  We're fans.

• 35:35Adam Sosnick?

  You know, as they said, you got some explaining to do, honey.

• 35:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Howard Lutnick had his Rafael Palmeiro moment in front of Congress. Yeah. Remember that? He shook his finger up there. I've never taken steroids.

• 35:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Percent of our audience knows Rafael Palmeiro. He was a lefty hitter that hit 50 home runs a couple of seasons. He was phenomenal.

• 35:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Great. He was he was phenomenal, but he was also called to be in front of Congress and he waved his finger in the air about investigating on steroids. And then in the weeks that followed, he was exposed. They had the receipts from what he purchased. He had Paul DeLuca and other players talking about, wait a minute, what are you talking about? He bought here, he bought there. So and now Howard Lutnick makes his moment in front of Congress and this comes up. When you say no one's going to be accountable, I'm gonna do something real quick, Pat, on on Andrew, Prince Andrew. Remember Andrew as a royal.

• 36:24Adam Sosnick?

  I said, I didn't say not accountable. I said, nobody's going to jail.

• 36:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, wait a second. Let me let me show you what's happening over there. First of all, Andrew is being semi-protected by his brother, not covered up by the king. But the king doesn't want full fury, right? He doesn't want all this stuff. And when the queen passed away, William was unleashed and William in 2019 wanted his brother, his uncle banished. And last, within the last four weeks, he said he was not in a calm state when he saw the latest interview that um uh Andrew did. So here's what they did. Can't prosecute royalty. That's the way it works in Britain. Whoops. Guess what, Pat? He's no longer royalty. They took his title. Then he could stay at the Royal Lodge.

• 37:12Tom Ellsworth?

  And they're like, no, we will not support you with dollars that way. Get out of the Royal Lodge. Now he's been moved out of the Royal Lodge. Then what did they do? They banished his royal duties. So he doesn't even get to go to Switzerland and give them a bouquet of flowers if someone dies, right? On behalf of the royal family, we're sorry. You know, that's kind of what royalty does sometimes. So now you have all this going, the worst, it's going downhill. And now he's actually been served under arrest and questioned. The noose is tightening around Andrew and William wants him out and prosecuted. And the heat is so great that you can see the British control systems who you normally, boys will be boys and they give free passes to the monarchy. It's not happening. It's getting tightening.

• 37:55Tom Ellsworth?

  And the worst possible thing could happen to Andrew next would be that the cancer, Charles succumbs to his cancer and William becomes king. Because then I think the door's open. He will be prosecuted and I think it's coming for him. And I think you can follow that around the world, that the heat is getting so great. It's getting so intense. I think things are coming. I don't- To America, to people in America. I think it's coming, Pat.

• 38:20Adam Sosnick?

  May I respond to that?

• 38:21Tom Ellsworth?

  A year ago, I wouldn't have said that.

• 38:23Adam Sosnick?

  So you said all that, that you're outlined that Andrew's sort of going to be the first domino to fall and other things may happen.

• 38:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Like in court-

• 38:30Adam Sosnick?

  About the British royalty and here's what's going on with Andrew. Zero, zero. If it affects America, now we're talking. If Bill Gates or Bill Clinton or any of the slick willies, something happens to them, now you have my attention. If something happens to some weirdo, former Prince Andrew, albeit. But if it affects America, now you have my attention. If it happens to some royalty or former royalty- It doesn't do it for me.

• 38:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Andrew's gonna talk, guys. Andrew's gonna talk.

• 38:56Adam Sosnick?

  Let me ask, let me ask, Denny, if the only person head to roll, goes to jail, held accountable, and they string him up and put him in a noose, is Prince Andrew, but nobody else, would you be satisfied?

• 39:08Speaker 02

  Absolutely not. You know, dude, we talk about this all the time. You know where I am with the accountability in regard to Lutnick. I'm extremely disappointed, Pat. That's the guy, that's the one guy that I kept seeing and going, I like that guy, he's speaking the truth, he's trying to help America out. And Rob, can you show that photo of the dentist's office? There was a photo, there was like a mask on the dentist's office that we talked about last, two weeks ago. That looks, no, no, and I'm being dead serious, this was on the wall in the dentist's office on Epstein Island. I don't know that many people that look just like that and have that smile. So guess what? If you were caught lying-

• 39:39Adam Sosnick?

  It could be Vince McMahon's-

• 39:40Speaker 02

  Adam, well, here's my thing, Pat. If you get caught lying, Adam, guys- Can I, can I speak?

• 39:45Adam Sosnick?

  Sorry.

• 39:46Speaker 02

  If you get caught lying in that sense, then how can we trust you with any, and it's not like a little white lie. You're lying about hanging out with a convicted, disgusting, whatever the hell you want to call them, if the age people try to be like, well, they were 15, or, I don't give a damn, he's disgusting. And you're lying, and you're bringing your kids, your nanny, and your people, and it's weird. And then you hear other stuff, like the Cantor Fitzgerald, something shorting the tariffs, even though Lutnick was the one going hard on the tariffs, and then wait a minute, your son and some people are making money because the tariffs are, the Supreme Court voted against them. It's like, now you're losing all this trust. It's very, very disappointing. And then, Adam, when the DOJ, whoever's removing these photos, I don't think, Trump doesn't,

• 40:30Speaker 02

  Trump has a thousand other things going on. But when they talk about the deep state, Adam, those are the same people, and I love that you keep bringing up Pam Bondi, guys. Pat, this all comes down to her. You ruined this whole damn thing. You should have been transparent from the beginning. You shouldn't have been sitting in a damn restaurant, talking crap about 10,000 hours-

• 40:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Bragging.

• 40:49Speaker 02

  Of poor-

• 40:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Bragging.

• 40:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, bragging. And now, now we ask questions, and now you want me to believe that that 30 seconds that you guys deleted and took out of that jail cell, you want me to believe what? Oh, there was just a glitch? Or just like all the cameras were off that day, or just like the guards fell asleep. Give me a break. Now you're losing all credibility. And for people like me that say we don't trust any of you, that's what it is. Period.

• 41:11Adam Sosnick?

  Dude, can I say, can I defend Pam Bondi for a second?

• 41:13Speaker 02

  No.

• 41:14Adam Sosnick?

  No, nobody's doing that. And yes, she has fumbled the ball. But to blame Pam Bondi, when you've had decades and decades of the bill bars and the attorney generals.

• 41:23Speaker 02

  They're all deep state.

• 41:24Adam Sosnick?

  But, but you want to put it on the person who's been in the job for one year.

• 41:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, yes.

• 41:27Adam Sosnick?

  She's the CEO of the company for one year, where the company's been failing for decades.

• 41:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, but let me tell you.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  She's the fall guy, she's the fall guy.

• 41:34Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you. Adam, what would happen if you went somewhere? And you negotiated on my behalf? And you agreed or said certain things without running it by me? With terms, without running it by me, what would happen to that relationship? That's what she did. That's what she did.

• 41:52Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 41:53Patrick Bet-David?

  She, she went.

• 41:54Adam Sosnick?

  We don't know if she didn't.

• 41:55Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 41:56Adam Sosnick?

  Get the message from the higher up.

• 41:57Patrick Bet-David?

  She went out there and said, there is tens of thousands of disgusting. And then she did that a day or two after James O'Keefe. Got the video catching her saying what are in those files? And they're nasty. You know what that means?

• 42:14Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 42:14Patrick Bet-David?

  In the mob world, what category does that fall under?

• 42:17Speaker 02

  A rat.

• 42:17Adam Sosnick?

  Grazie.

• 42:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Loose lips.

• 42:19Speaker 02

  Loose lips.

• 42:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You have loose lips, you can't be on the inside.

• 42:23Adam Sosnick?

  Can I?

• 42:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You go from an insider to being six layers out. And that's the problem with her. She's, this is not a character issue. We don't like her. We don't, this is not about likability. Loose lips is what causes to be, is this it, Rob?

• 42:36Speaker 02

  Uh, yes, sir.

• 42:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Play the clip. So this is her two days after James O'Keefe or day after James O'Keefe. Go ahead, Rob.

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• 44:46Speaker 17

  No, no, the FBI, yeah, the FBI, they're reviewing, there are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn. And there are hundreds of victims. And no one victim will ever get released. It's just the volume, and that's what they're going through right now. The FBI is diligently going through that. I haven't seen that statement, but I'll call him later and talk about it.

• 45:13Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so, so the part is that. You get, if you notice one thing, I had Kristi Noem on the podcast the other day.

• 45:20Adam Sosnick?

  Going viral one night now, by the way.

• 45:22Patrick Bet-David?

  One of the clips about her being spied on. Yes, about her being spied on, right? But we had Kristi Noem on the podcast the other day. Great conversation, she did great. And guess what? A part of who you hire is to represent you in a marketplace. By the way, just so everybody knows, you don't get it right. A guy asked me a question about an investment he had that he lost. And he was impacted about in a big way. He's asked me this question yesterday. I said, what do you do? I said, every year, you're going to get some decisions wrong. Every year, I've been running a business for quite some time. Every year, and all I want to do is to go from forty-eight percent better decisions to fifty-two percent, to fifty-six percent. You ain't never going to be ninety-five percent or ninety percent. It's just not going to happen, right?

• 46:06Patrick Bet-David?

  And sometime when you hire people, you can't speak on their behalf. Pam Bondi screwed up because of loose lips and the way she handled herself. And she created noise, and she could have prevented that. This is not about questioning anything else. There, there needs to be a fall person on this. If you don't have it, it's going to continue. It's going, and by the way, here's how this works. The faster you do it, you know how you, if you're a hairy person, and you're doing EKG, and they put all this stuff on your chest and your chest has got hair. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you, you know what's the worst thing to do when you're taking?

• 46:40Adam Sosnick?

  Pulling them off.

• 46:41Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, taking it like this.

• 46:42Adam Sosnick?

  Off, Logan.

• 46:43Patrick Bet-David?

  You ever seen nurses that do this? And you hold the nurses' hand, what are you doing? Take the damn thing off. And go boom, right? And you scream like the forty-year-old virgin clip, right? But, but you know where they are right now? They gotta go wham.

• 46:56Adam Sosnick?

  Great point.

• 46:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Pull the whole thing already.

• 46:58Adam Sosnick?

  They've been slow ripping for years now.

• 47:00Patrick Bet-David?

  That's exactly what they're doing.

• 47:02Adam Sosnick?

  Of course, so why would that change now?

• 47:04Patrick Bet-David?

  But because it's, because the temperature's the highest and it's not going to go away. You realize the, every time, like, we could be talking about right now victory, State of the Union. We could be talking about stuff that's actual, real topics. But you're causing the last sixteen videos on Fox to be, eleven of them to be what? About Epstein. You think, you think everybody wants to talk about that?

• 47:24Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 47:25Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but that's how this game works.

• 47:26Adam Sosnick?

  Real quick, can I respond? I absolutely agree with you. You know who's laughing us right now? Our enemies, China. Okay, Russia, because here we are arguing over little sixteen-year-old pedophilia, whatever Epstein did on this island, when they're trying to have world hegemony and take over the world, and we're arguing about chicks with dicks.

• 47:42Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not just what he, it's not what he did.

• 47:44Adam Sosnick?

  I hear you, but there's a lot of noise going on here.

• 47:46Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not.

• 47:47Adam Sosnick?

  And we're trying to find the signal through the noise? I just don't think it's gonna happen.

• 47:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Some of this noise is real.

• 47:54Patrick Bet-David?

  So there's a difference between bad noise that's you don't need to pay some of it is real. You know, your kids will scream, oh, my God, that's not fair. That's not a noise. Oh, my God, my ankle. Look at my ankle. It's bleeding. It's oh, wow. This is bad. Let's go to the hospital. That's noise. You have to know there's real noise. Okay. But there's certainly some real noise. There's a lot more. Dude, the guy that's got one of the biggest jobs in the White House said, I only met him one time and he doesn't tell the story about being on the island. The pictures released and it's the one picture that you didn't put on the web. Bingo. You, you, when you do stuff like this, you know, you, you, you, you make it challenging on people. You don't make it easy. So anyways, I want to go to the next story. Is Trump gonna fire anyone in his cabinet is the question. I know he won't do the. Because he has not fired Bondi.

• 48:36Patrick Bet-David?

  He won't do the firing. He won't do the firing because of one person. There's one person on the inside that knows how to handle these sensitive situations in a proper way, and her name is Susie Wells. So there's, there's different ways to fire people. Okay. Matter of fact, what I'm gonna do right now, Rob, just go pull up the, go pull up the, uh, uh, block story, square story. Okay. And it, it, it has nothing to do with this, but there's many different ways on how to fire people. One of them is you're fired. Another one of them is reposition. Another one of them is severance. Another one of them is, hey, you know, give them a smaller job. To be with my family. Yeah, I'm stepping. There's so many ways and Susie is a pro.

• 49:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So whatever way this is gonna be done, best trust. What's the difference between this time around, last time around? This chief of staff, she's a boss. Everybody who runs a company, that's an operator, you want to have a Susie Wells. Okay. So far, she's done a great job. Can you do me a favor and go up to that Twitter, uh, uh, of Jack Dorsey, Rob? So mass layoffs, thank you, Rob. Block slashes staff by 40%, adding to growing tech cuts. Tom said, the moment they cut 40%, 4,000 jobs, the stock apparently went up 25% or so. Tom, correct me. That's exactly right. Okay, so check that out. There it is. Hey, we're firing 4,000 people. Bam. It goes to the room. No, literally.

• 50:00Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's go read Jack Dorsey's Twitter tweets, uh, that he put up. Is that what you call it nowadays? No, it's a post. It's a post.

• 50:08Adam Sosnick?

  He used to own Twitter.

• 50:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 50:09Adam Sosnick?

  You can call it whatever you want.

• 50:10Patrick Bet-David?

  We're making blocks smaller today. Here's my note to the company. This thing got 50 million views, folks. Today, we're making one of the hardest decisions in the history of the company. We're reducing our organization by nearly half from over 10,000 people to just under 6,000. That means 4,000 of you, he's talking to his employees, are being asked to leave or entering into consultation. I'll be straight about it, what's happening, why and what it means for everyone. First of all, if you're one of the people that's being affected, you'll receive your salary for 20 weeks. One week per year of tenure equity vested through the end of May, six months of healthcare, your corporate devices, and $5,000 to put towards whatever you need to help you in this transition. If you're outside of the US, you'll receive smaller support. I want you to know that before anything else,

• 50:53Patrick Bet-David?

  everyone will be notified whether you're being asked to leave, entering consultation, or asked to stay. We're not making this decision because we're in trouble. Our business is strong, gross profit's growing, continues to grow. We're continuing to serve more and more customers and profitability is improving. But something has changed. We're already seeing that the intelligence tools. Here we go, folks. We're creating and using, paired with smaller and flatter teams, are enabling a new way of working which fundamentally changes what it means to build and run a company, and that's accelerating rapidly. You had two options, cut gradually or months or years as this shift plays out, or be honest about where we are and act on it now. I chose the latter, repeated rounds of cuts and destructive to morale,

• 51:37Patrick Bet-David?

  to focus and to trust that customers and shareholders place in our ability to lead. I'd rather take a hard, clear action now and build from a position we believe in, and then manage a slow reduction. You see this, how much this has to do with the point I was just making a minute ago, of people toward the same outcome. A smaller company also gives us the space to grow our business the right way and on our own terms, instead of constantly reacting to market pressures. Decision at the scale causes, carries risk, but so does standing still. We've done a full review of determinate roles and people we require to reliably grow the business from here. And we've pressure tested those decisions from multiple angles. I accept that we may have gotten some of them wrong, and we've built them flexibility to account for that and do the right thing for our customers.

• 52:22Patrick Bet-David?

  We're not going to just disappear. People from Slack and email and pretend they're never here. Communication channels will stay open throughout Thursday evening. So everyone can say goodbye properly and share whatever you wish. I will be also hosting a live video session to thank everyone at 355. To those of you leaving, I'm grateful for you. I'm sorry to put you through this. You built this company of what it is today. That's a fact that I'll honor forever. This decision is not a reflection of what you contributed. You will be a great contributor to any organization going forward to those staying. I made this decision, I'll own it. What I'm asking for you to build with me is we're going, okay. And then he goes into next message. Fifty million plus views. Tom.

• 52:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, this is an example of what I believe is strong leadership when you have to make the tough decision. And he doesn't want people to live in fear. We are making one cut, one time. This is how we're doing it. And take a look, they're giving them 20 weeks plus six months of healthcare. He is giving transition with a capital T to all of these people. He's giving them time to find other jobs. I thought this was really well done. Now, for everybody else saying, well, why would the market be happy about layoffs? I'm going to dive in a little bit to that. Real quick, quick history. Square was born in 2009 in St. Louis. Jack Dorsey started it and they became Block in 2021, long after their IPO.

• 53:43Tom Ellsworth?

  IPO was 2015 or something. And along the way, they built Cash App in 2013. So he had Square and Cash App. He's building this fintech company, keeps adding to it. They changed the name to Block, Pat, because they were saying, hey, we're going to be more about what's on blockchain. And we're going to also allow you to do crypto inside Cash App. So that's where Block came from as a modern brand for it. And by the way, 2020 to 2021, Cash App won the deal and they were a distributor of the payments from the federal government during, during the whole COVID. So those payments that came from the government were executed through Cash App. Now, something then happened.

• 54:26Tom Ellsworth?

  They got into the BNPL business and they bought Afterpay in 2022. At the time they bought it, you had a lot of people, even analysts on Wall Street saying, hey, when you consolidate these, do you need, is all these admin jobs? Do you need them both? Do you need all this? And Pat, they never made a, whenever you acquire something, you don't need two HRs, you don't need two marketings. You know, there's a lot of things you don't need two of. And unfortunately, you have to thin up. The team, well, they didn't. And he got up over 10,000 jobs. So message number one, there were more people at Block than probably were necessary to run the business. And he was going to have to make some sort of an adjustment or a layoff to right size the workforce

• 55:09Tom Ellsworth?

  because of their, uh, the acquisitions that they made of BNPL. But second, along the way, they started discovering benefits of AI. The stock market jumped up because they've been waiting for him to reduce internal costs. But the headlines jump up because they're like, oh no, AI is going to take everybody's job and we're all gone. Well, some of that is true, but it's not going to destroy everything in life. So there were two things that happened here, but I think that Jack Dorsey handled it like a pro. Um, I think there's a little more shade thrown on, you know, that AI caused it. And there needs to be a little bit more honesty about the fact that there is consolidations, there is growth.

• 55:52Tom Ellsworth?

  And they bought Afterpay, this BNPL, and it, and it built a very large horde at headquarters that they had never really successfully trimmed or right sized.

• 56:03Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so Tom, that tweet he just sent out, how long of noise is he going to have till the noise goes away?

• 56:11Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I happen to think that the market has digested.

• 56:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Not the market, in the company.

• 56:16Tom Ellsworth?

  This? Well, there's going to be an adjustment for about of a couple of weeks or 30 days. But there will not be, if this is true, and they are not going to do, as he said, the death of a thousand cuts. Oh, we're doing this many, then we're doing this many, then we're doing that. You see companies, you and I have seen it when companies are losing altitude and they lay off, then they lay off, then they lay off. How could the staff not live in fear?

• 56:38Patrick Bet-David?

  So how long you think this is going to take?

• 56:40Tom Ellsworth?

  There's going to be a 30 day reaction inside and.

• 56:43Patrick Bet-David?

  And what happens after 30 days?

• 56:45Tom Ellsworth?

  I, if this is, if this is true, people will put their head down and work and drive for the future.

• 56:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and they'll move on.

• 56:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct.

• 56:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, and guess what? The White House? Needs to look at this playbook.

• 56:56Adam Sosnick?

  Bingo.

• 56:57Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what the White House needs to do. The White House needs to look at this.

• 57:00Speaker 05

  What a take. Amen to that.

• 57:01Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the point. That's where I'm going with.

• 57:03Speaker 05

  Amen.

• 57:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Go take that thing off and get the pain in half a second instead of dragging it out the way you're doing.

• 57:11Speaker 05

  With an honest, transparent.

• 57:12Patrick Bet-David?

  The president needs to send one of those long novel type tweets that only a few people do him and Bill Ackman are famous for. He needs to sell one of those long tweets for market to be like, oh my God, and criticize the hell out of the president. Talk trash, come out and say impeachment, come out and say all this stuff. And then guess what? Two weeks later, war, something issue happens, you move on. But you have to address this because this is kids and when it comes down to kids, people, uh, uh, it's like you can say anything else and that person is just looking at you saying, kids, kids, kids, children, kids, kids, children, children, kids, kids, they hear nothing else you're saying.

• 57:54Patrick Bet-David?

  So that's the thing with this. And by the way, kudos to Jack for handling it this way. Uh, let's go to next story. Next story I want to get to is Netflix and Paramount. So Rob, what page is the Netflix and Paramount story? Uh, Netflix and Paramount, which is massive.

• 58:09Speaker 05

  We could do addendum two Netflix stock right here.

• 58:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So let's do that. So Netflix, uh, addendum two, uh, ditches the deal for Warner Brothers discovery after Paramount offer is deemed superior. So Paramount comes up and they go to $31 per share. And then that causes Paramount agreeing to pay the $2.8 billion breakup fee that Warner Brothers would owe Netflix if the deal didn't go through. So what, what Paramount says, don't worry about it. We'll, we'll pay that. It's like you have an apartment that you've been living in. If you want to cancel and leave to go to a different job, you have to pay for the three months and the company says, we'll pay for the three months of rent for you to move over here sooner. That's that breakup. That's the way to look at it, right?

• 58:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So then they come in and Paramount goes and I keep in mind a couple of things that happened and Tom, I want to come to you first, Adam, to you afterwards. Is while this is going on, Rob, you may have a video on this. I think you may have a video on this. There was a few events that took place. Ted Sarandos was supposed to be at the White House. I think he did go to the White House. I don't know if he met with the president. Rumors are saying he did not. He just met with a few staffers. And remember that Suzanne Rice made a couple of comments. Then the president says you gotta fire her Netflix, and they did it. So some are saying it's a political decision of what's gonna be happening. The employees who are working at CNN right now are not frightened because they're thinking Larry Ellison and David Ellison are gonna come in and like a Barry Weiss type of a thing, and there's gonna be a lot of shakeup, and some of the employees are gonna get fired.

• 59:34Patrick Bet-David?

  And they're saying we are F'd. There's literally some emails and texts that are being shown that employees are saying we are F'd at CNN. But I'll pause right there. Rob, play this clip, and Tom, I'm coming to you next. Go ahead.

• 59:44Speaker 18

  Again, just the past couple of minutes, Netflix is declining to raise its offer to buy Warner Brothers Discovery Studios and streaming business. The move effectively puts Paramount in a position to take over the storied Hollywood giant. Today, Warner Brothers Board announced that Skydance-owned Paramount's offer is superior to the agreement it had previously struck with Netflix. Now Netflix says the price that would be required to buy Warner makes the deal no longer financially attractive.

• 1:00:13Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. Tom, thoughts?

• 1:00:16Tom Ellsworth?

  So, well, hats off to, I've been critical of David Zaslove for the last year. I thought they went, I thought they started this the wrong way. He was going to the Allen and Company Conference, and there were leaks that come out that supposedly he had whispered to people, you know, do you wanna take CNN? We're, we're taking care of it. Remember all this, Pat? We're taking care of all the big salaries. And Caitlin is on a rookie deal, so, you know, this is a different CNN. We're gonna get the cost right. Come on. And he found no takers. No takers for an aging, shrinking cable news service. Coming purely from the left, that Ted Turner was disgusted at how it evolved. Then...

• 1:00:55Tom Ellsworth?

  David gets this done. And so hats off to ZAZ. He gets 31 a share for the shareholders. Part of the rule, you know, for being a great CEO is deliver value for the shareholders and lead the company with clarity and authenticity. And it was a bumpy ride, but he got it done. What's interesting to me about this, Pat, really interesting to me is how the last hours unfolded. The Ellison's did come to 31 a share. And remember, the Ellison's are coming to buy the whole thing. They want the cable nets and they want the library. Whereas Netflix only wanted the library. And there were people in Hollywood, producers, big time movie creators,

• 1:01:39Tom Ellsworth?

  that really were favoring the Ellison's a little bit. Why? Because the Ellison's are favoring theatrical releases and bigger budgets. That's what people in Hollywood want because those bigger budgets give them their jobs. Whereas Netflix, they said, oh, they're just going to stream this to death. They're going to carve it up. They're going to go with AI. And so there was a lot of behind the scenes. But in the last hours, Ted Sarandos, you're correct, Pat, or your summary, I've read in multiple locations this morning, he was going to go meet with Pam Bondi and Susie Wiles. And Susie Wiles was going to be the gatekeeper, and Pam Bondi was going to be the gatekeeper for the Federal Trade Commission. And he wanted to go up there and talk to them about what he would face at Federal Trade Commission.

• 1:02:20Tom Ellsworth?

  And obviously, he didn't want Trump whispering. But Susan Rice, who was in the Obama administration, had shot her mouth off. Rob, if we can find that, her exact quote was, "People need to be careful because revenge is best served cold." Yeah, it says threat. So you have got this threat that she puts out there, and she's on the board of Netflix. So do you not think Reed Hastings or Ted Sarandos would have picked up the phone and called her? I know you would have, Pat, and say, what are you saying? You have your independence. You have your old job. You have your own identity. But you can't speak like that when we're in the middle of something? What the hell are you doing? And then Trump comes out and says, you know, you should fire that lady. That lady talked- What did she say here? Is this her? Uh, yes.

• 1:03:06Speaker 19

  But let me say this. Somebody who I won't name, but a very prominent public figure-

• 1:03:15Speaker 19

  Who has, you know, served at nearly the very highest levels. Um, once told me, uh, the following. They said revenge is best served cold.

• 1:03:28Speaker 19

  Uh, and the older I get, uh, the more I see the wisdom of that. You, you don't roll over. Uh, you don't, um, allow yourself to be bullied or, or manipulated. Sometimes, you know, you have to meet hardball with hardball. Uh, sometimes there are more subtle ways to, uh, accomplish the same. But it's important to let bullies know that you won't be bullied. Uh, and, uh, if need be to make them pay a price for trying to bully you or smear you or whatever.

• 1:04:02Patrick Bet-David?

  We can pause it right there. So by the way, so, so, so here's two things you gotta be thinking about. One, when did, when did she get the board seat? When did she get the board seat?

• 1:04:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Board seat, Netflix, when did she get the board seat? There's two problems here. Just ask, ask Chat GPT when this, you know, let's see if it answers it here. If not, go to Chat GPT. Yeah. So, so she became, she got the board.

• 1:04:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Seven years ago.

• 1:04:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So check this out. That's under Trump. That's under Trump. But that's first term Trump.

• 1:04:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Then you got second term, which is Biden. Okay. And Trump called it the other day on State of the Union, my second term, everybody laughed. But then you got second term. And then she served on the board until 2020. When she left to join Biden administration and was reappointed to Netflix, September 8th, 2023. So Netflix probably did that. Tom, do you think Netflix did that thinking Kamala was gonna win? When, when did Biden step down? We were in, uh, Hampton, so, uh, July?

• 1:05:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes. Yeah. The handwritten note from the White House.

• 1:05:14Patrick Bet-David?

  What, it, it's either, it's either a move of there is no way in the world Trump's gonna win. So let's bring and put her on the board. Or, listen, business as usual. I mean, if we put Iran in 2018, we're gonna do it again. Or number two, the problem is, what the hell are you doing making comments like that while you're sitting on a board of a half a trillion dollar company that's about to get a big deal that is good assets? I mean, there's a lot of things to it. I saw one expert also say, which I really liked his thing, I've never heard him before, but he was on, I want to give this guy credit because it was so great what he said.

• 1:05:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what, he was asked and he said, "What do you think about the whole thing? Do you think it's because of..." And he was talking to the guy that wrote the 1929 book. What is his name, Tom? You know his name. Oh, Andrew Sorkin. Yes, he says, he's speaking to him, Rob, and he says, "Do you think this is because of Suzanne Rice?" And he says, "No, I don't think." He says, "Really, you don't think?" "No," he says, "I don't think." So, "So what do you think this is?" He says, "Honestly, here's what I think it is." He says, "I think it's about Netflix has always built their business, they're builders. They don't acquire companies. They're builders." So you know what the builder mentality is?

• 1:06:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Look, we'd like to buy you, we have some money, but whether we do or not, we're builders anyways, we're gonna keep building. So the mindset of a builder sometimes is different than those that are aggregators. Aggregators want to buy EBITDA, they want to buy catalog, and you're kind of like are trying to get all that stuff in. So, listen, that also goes credit to the Netflix folks. If it's just a business decision, and it has nothing to do with politics, which I do think 20, 30% of this was politics, but if it's just a business decision, go ahead. FYI, I prefer, I prefer Paramount picking up WBD than it going to Netflix. I personally prefer that. Do you want to know why?

• 1:07:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Because it intensifies competition between three heavyweights now, or four heavyweights. You got the Paramount, CBS, you know, Warner Brothers team, the Ellison, those guys. You got the Disney folks, they gotta get their act together, but never, by the way, never count Disney out. Disney is three good moves away from being a trillion dollar company. Literally, they're not that far off. And then you have Netflix. This is good competition. You got some outsiders. You got YouTube. YouTube may come and spank all of them, to be honest with you. I mean, we, we don't know what's going to be happening, but you know, I, I kind of like that this ended up being there. Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:07:54Adam Sosnick?

  Well, to me, get ready to be more controlled. Cause it seems like you're going to have more options now, all these companies, but they're all being consolidated. So what happens when consolidation happens? They're going to control what you watch and then in turn they're going to control what you think. So all these things, you just said there's going to be three or four major companies that are going to be controlling everything.

• 1:08:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:13Adam Sosnick?

  It's kind of reminiscent of what happened with Amazon and Walmart. I mean, all the little mom and pop shops are gone. I mean, if you're going to go shopping, where are you going? You're going to Amazon, you're going to Walmart, maybe Target? You know, if they chill out on the LGBT trans stuff. So it might be more convenient. You know, everyone has, I've got all these apps on my phone. I've subscribed to all these things. Now you're going to subscribe to three different things. So there's fewer apps, but when there's fewer choices, you know what's going to cost more?

• 1:08:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Hmm.

• 1:08:39Adam Sosnick?

  What you have to pay every single month. So you might, instead of paying nine ninety-nine, ninety-nine, fourteen ninety-nine, ninety-nine, you might not paying twenty-nine ninety-nine, thirty-nine ninety-nine, fifty ninety-nine, but only three times. So the, you, you brought up the other point, YouTube. To me, the biggest benefactor of all this is going to be guys like us. It's going to be guys like the Daily Wire. It's going to be guys like independent media. It's going to be like Turning Point. It's going to be even things on the left. Cause it's like, do you want to be controlled by the big tech oligarchies or monopolies? Or do you want to trust independent voices out there? Because what this basically means is this, all the news, the media, the sports, the comedy, the entertainment, the cartoons, they're all going to be owned by three different companies. And what happens is I think innovation is going to basically be cut down.

• 1:09:24Adam Sosnick?

  See a lot more sequels. Okay, we're going to see Transformers ninety-four or Avengers four hundred and seventeen. Cause there's going to, in my opinion, lose a little creativity, the bigger you get. You know what this is also reminiscent of? The, the insurance industry where we come from. When I entered the insurance industry almost 20 years ago, oh my God, I'm dating myself. There were so many independent IMOs, BGAs, I couldn't keep track. How many major IMO BJAs are there now? Three, four. So that's good for the customer. Essentially, there's less, there's less competition. But at the end of the day, I think prices are gonna go up.

• 1:10:00Patrick Bet-David?

  A Mira Life bought Crump. I had no idea A Mira Life bought.

• 1:10:02Adam Sosnick?

  That's huge.

• 1:10:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, A Mira Life bought Crump. You remember when BB, was it BBNT or BB, something like that? I don't know who it was.

• 1:10:08Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, it was BBNT.

• 1:10:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that, that bought, but A Mira Life bought Crump. How massive was Crump 10 years ago, five years, massive?

• 1:10:14Adam Sosnick?

  The biggest. I mean, in terms of distribution.

• 1:10:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:16Adam Sosnick?

  So this is all distribution, is it not?

• 1:10:18Patrick Bet-David?

  It is. It is. A- again, for me, I like that they're going. I like that there's gonna be some disruption at CNN. I like that there's gonna be some disruption to the media space. Even yesterday, while we were having dinner with, uh, the folks, uh, uh, one of the guys, uh, I think it was Brad that said, uh, this could be the, the reason why they're buying them is because they wanna be able to do the future Harry Potter AI movies. They can do 10, 15 AI movies. And of course, you pay the actors a little bit of money, not the same kind of money. But they believe the future of making AI movies. You guys saw the clip, Rob? Do you have the clip of Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt? I don't know if you guys have seen this or not. Have you seen this thing? Watch this, Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt. It's 100% AI.

• 1:11:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Look what direction they're going with AI making movies. The, the fight scene. Watch this. Go ahead, go ahead. The voice isn't there yet, but watch.

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• 1:13:23Speaker 06

  You killed Jeffrey Epstein, you animal! He was a good man! He knew too much about our Russia operations. He had to die, and now you die too.

• 1:13:36Patrick Bet-David?

  That's crazy, right?

• 1:13:39Adam Sosnick?

  What was the last movie these two guys were in? I remember they were like a vampire movie in the 90s.

• 1:13:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, that was a legit... Interview with the Vampire. That was a legit Interview with the Vampire, yeah. But so, so, so, so the concern is you buy it, now you control it, now you have AI, now you can pump out movies using AI at one-tenth of a pace. You know, so if it takes you three years to make a movie, now we can take three months to make a movie, and we can do multiple, you know, Harry Potter movies coming out. We can make multiple. By the way, pull up the, the, the catalog of what things Paramount will own if they have this, Rob. That one picture that the great Humberto sent, or, you know what I'm talking about, right? Watch this. Watch this. Zoom in a little bit. Skydance, TikTok, if they get it TikTok, US Fandango, Rotten Tomatoes,

• 1:14:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Oracle, HBO, CNN, CBS, Showtime, TBS, Comedy Central, TNT, Paramount, TLC, HGTV, Nickelodeon, and they got Animal Planet, CBS Sports, Adult Swim, what is that?

• 1:14:34Speaker 02

  Cartoon Network.

• 1:14:36Patrick Bet-David?

  HBO Max, I was about to say Adult Swim, Cinemax,

• 1:14:41Adam Sosnick?

  Don't you forget about BET.

• 1:14:43Patrick Bet-David?

  BET, VH1, BET is in the same BET, used to be VH1, MTV, MTV is the lost, lost, we lost. And then some other major franchises they picked up, Harry Potter, Mad Max, Conjuring, Matrix, IT, it's Lord of the Rings, Gremlins, Mission Impossible, Nightmare on Elm Street, Game of Thrones, True Detective, Soprano, Wire, Mortal Kombat, Transformers, Justice League,

• 1:15:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Shazam, Harley Quinn, Joker, Superman, Batman, who's the other one? Is that Wonder Woman, what's the one on the left? Is that Daredevil or right about Batman? Who is that about Batman? I don't know who that is.

• 1:15:19Adam Sosnick?

  That's a flash.

• 1:15:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Flash, Yellowstone, Star Trek, Turtles, it's your age. So Garfield, Avatar, G.I. Joe, Top Gun, I mean, listen.

• 1:15:28Adam Sosnick?

  So all these independent brands on one app.

• 1:15:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:15:32Adam Sosnick?

  This is what I'm talking about, everything consolidated.

• 1:15:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, yes, exactly.

• 1:15:36Adam Sosnick?

  It's good for the consumer.

• 1:15:37Patrick Bet-David?

  It doesn't matter, sometimes when these guys buy up all this stuff, if you, the challenge is, if you buy up and you don't create, it doesn't matter. You have to stay in creation mode. If they stay in creation mode, then good to go. By the way, how old is David Ellison? Forty-one, forty-two? I don't know how old he is, but he's in the early forties, late thirties. You know, he's a forty-three, there you go, forty-three.

• 1:16:01Adam Sosnick?

  Man, Vinny, what are we doing with our life, bro?

• 1:16:04Patrick Bet-David?

  He's got, he's got a.

• 1:16:05Speaker 02

  Buying everything.

• 1:16:06Patrick Bet-David?

  He's got a.

• 1:16:06Adam Sosnick?

  I'm about to be forty this year and I gotta keep up.

• 1:16:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, for sure. Okay, all right, let's go to next story. Next story I want to get into is, which one is that one? That is, okay, do you guys want to go to a, Vinny, is there a story you want to get to? Because I got three story I want to go to. Do you have one you want me to go to?

• 1:16:25Speaker 02

  Um, I mean, if we want to call out Gavin Newsom and all the stuff that's happening in California.

• 1:16:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Which one?

• 1:16:33Speaker 02

  The guy, the

• 1:16:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Cover that.

• 1:16:35Speaker 02

  Okay, well, well, on top of, I have, I have a couple. What's the, what's the, what's the story?

• 1:16:39Patrick Bet-David?

  He'll tell. Let him go through it.

• 1:16:40Speaker 02

  Well, just in general, just in general, I just want to know, like, publicly, just as, as a, as a society, when are we going to stop pretending, okay, that the trans movement, whatever you want to talk it is a problem? And if we keep letting people with mental disorders keep getting away with everything that they're getting away with, because we all want to be like, oh, no, no, no, the welcoming and, and loving, it's insane. We didn't even touch on it the week that the mass shooting happened in Canada with the trans, uh, man, whatever you want to call him, but since 2018, guys, shootings, mass shootings in the hands of transgenders. 2018 Aberdeen, four dead. 2019 Highlands Ranch, Colorado, one dead, four injured. 2022 Colorado Springs, five dead. 2023 Nashville, Tennessee, six dead.

• 1:17:25Speaker 02

  2024 Perry, Iowa, one dead, five injured. 2025 Minneapolis, Minnesota, two dead, 29 injured. Uh, 2026 Tumbler Ridge, British Columbia, which I'm talking about, eight dead, 25 injured. And then 2026 Pawtucket, Rhode Island, two killed, three injured. I'm sick and tired of this. It's not even a minority. It's just these couple group of people that we keep adding, acting, not us, but the left, that they're, everything's okay. Um, in 2018, I want you guys, I want to talk about this story. His name is David Funson. If you're home, look him up. Rob's going to show you. Look, just look at this photo and tell me if you guys are surprised. Please, whoever's out there, okay? First openly trans. Jesus, there she goes.

• 1:18:07Speaker 02

  No, it's a pastor, apparently. First openly US trans lawmaker admits to child sex charges involving kids young as three. Okay. I didn't see that. Adam, could you let me finish the damn story? All right. You're speaking. This guy, this guy's name is Stacy Marie Law and 41 years old, biological male, identifies as a female, pled guilty to charges with sexual, uh, exploitation of children last week. And you know who was sending up at, who was sending this, this dude photos of three-year-olds naked or whatever? His partner, who was at a daycare, Adam, sending him those photos and they, uh, he, she, whatever the hell, got in trouble too. And it's, it's, it's disgusting and it's bothering me and it's just. It's out of control. Rob, you want to, is this the, is this the one with, with Gavin?

• 1:18:52Speaker 02

  This is a Fox News clip. Okay, so, all right, so I, I'm gonna stop, so that- I do have this one of Gavin Newsom, but I don't know if- No, that's not it. No, that's not it. So, so my, my point I'm getting, the trans situation, now by the, this is California. Uh, wait, where is that, Robbie? Double by- Sacramento. Sacramento, this is a lawmaker. This is someone that was praised as a trailblazer, as this woman and this, that's that person. Okay? And then Pat, there's another one, I'll just keep staying on California. There's a Democrat running for Fresno, California City Council, Rene Campos. He's a registered sex offender with a 2018 conviction of possession of child abuse material, who doesn't plan on stepping down, and listen to his excuse. Go ahead.

• 1:19:30Speaker 21

  I believe Fresno deserves the leaders that are honest from the very beginning, not the end. So, going into this, I am putting my life out there.

• 1:19:39Speaker 22

  Upfront about his status as a registered sex offender, Rene Campos is not running from his past as he runs for office.

• 1:19:47Speaker 02

  Jeez.

• 1:19:47Speaker 21

  I've been given the chance to rehabilitate through the courts and back into the system.

• 1:19:51Speaker 22

  Charged with being in possession of child sex abuse material back in 2018, the Fresno native says he pled no contest to a misdemeanor charge. Now launching his campaign to represent District 7-

• 1:20:03Speaker 02

  And you know what he's saying? I'll, I'll stop it right there. Rob, you know what he says, Pat? He goes, he goes, yep, who's better to know the system than me because I went through it? I'll be an asset. And the, the main one, the main story, in 2018, your, your boy Gavin Newsom, our favorite guy, signed the bill, Bill, Senate Bill 1319. It's a law, it's part of California's criminal justice reform push. Guys, it's called the elderly parole program. So if you were arrested, if you were 18, 19, or whatever, and you've served 20 years, uh, it allows inmates who are 50 years old that have served 20 years to be considered for parole. So David Funston was 17 when he committed these crimes, and guys, they're horrific crimes. Uh, kidnapping, child molestation, multiple victims,

• 1:20:45Speaker 02

  five-year-old girl who was suffered severe physical trauma that I don't even want to mention because it'll gross you guys out. He was sentenced to three life terms in prison. Three life terms. Uh, and guess what? Under California's elderly parole, he's becoming eligible for a hearing to get out. But as this was happening, thank God, they stopped him because they put up another charge. But Rob, can you play that clip of the, of the news? There you go. It's only a minute.

• 1:21:10Speaker 23

  A convicted child predator that a judge once called the monster parents fear the most has now been cleared for release under California's elderly parole program.

• 1:21:21Speaker 02

  Jeez.

• 1:21:22Speaker 23

  He's 64 years old. His horrific crimes include 16 counts of kidnapping and child molestation.

• 1:21:29Speaker 02

  Are you serious?

• 1:21:29Speaker 23

  Yes. He was sentenced to three straight terms of 25 years to life, plus 20 years on top of that. The state's corrections and rehab bureau detailing the process of his parole approval, telling Fox News Digital this, that on January 12th, 2026, Governor Gavin Newsom referred the case back to the board of parole hearings for further review.

• 1:21:50Speaker 02

  Oh, good job.

• 1:21:50Speaker 23

  Meaning he didn't agree with this conclusion. Now, at that then February board meeting, the panel reaffirmed the decision recommending that this monster receive parole. Now, it's important to note that the governor cannot overturn there in that state parole board hearings conclusion when it's a non homicide case.

• 1:22:10Speaker 02

  Great.

• 1:22:10Speaker 23

  And that is why the governor cannot at this point overturn.

• 1:22:14Speaker 02

  So you can stop it, Rob. So Pat, everything we hear about California, the, the politics, the gas, the taxes, the lying from this guy and he's the front runner, this is the type of thing that happened. Rob, we don't need to play because this guy goes into detail and I don't want to get into detail what he did with these children. But what is it about this disgusting demonic forces that even the people that are in charge are letting? Who would sign a bill saying if you did 20 years?

• 1:22:38Patrick Bet-David?

  That guy went to jail. Did he do?

• 1:22:40Speaker 02

  He did 20 years, but, but.

• 1:22:41Patrick Bet-David?

  What I want to know is how did he make it out of jail?

• 1:22:44Speaker 02

  The elderly parole.

• 1:22:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Meaning if other inmates know you did that 16 times.

• 1:22:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, they protected.

• 1:22:53Patrick Bet-David?

  How did others who maybe killed people to be in jail, how did they not?

• 1:22:57Speaker 02

  Very impressive. That's a very good question. Maybe his security was high level.

• 1:23:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Child abusers don't do well in jail.

• 1:23:01Patrick Bet-David?

  No, they don't.

• 1:23:02Tom Ellsworth?

  This is, this shows you the unintended consequences of a, of a horribly run state.

• 1:23:07Speaker 02

  Jeez.

• 1:23:07Tom Ellsworth?

  So they passed the elder care and what was this, the elder care?

• 1:23:11Speaker 02

  Elderly parole program.

• 1:23:12Tom Ellsworth?

  What it, what it was meant to do, Pat, was like an 80 year old guy who now is frail and is in prison and has served. almost his entire life. They look at it, Pat. What have they got? They got budget issues in California. So they look at these elderly and they say, you know what? Maybe he just should be out of jail. But then you know where he goes, Pat? He would go being a social security or Medicaid or Medicare. And then he would be in like a retirement care facility. But he's not working. He's not out there. They're old. They're frail. They're just moving them from one government program to another. You follow that? And they're trying to save the money. Instead, this case comes up. So the law of unintended consequences.

• 1:23:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Somebody says, some bleeding heart liberal says, hey, you know, this guy's eligible. He's eligible on this, so we need to go to the parole board for it to be reviewed. And all of a sudden, the parole board's in handcuffs. And they're like, yeah, we got to review this. But the parole board can say, no. They can say he, look, he was on there for trip. Do you notice it was triple life plus 20? Yes. Triple life plus 20. And I believe in California, life is 25 with good behavior. So triple life and 20 should be 25, 25, 25 plus 20, 95 years. So in other words, the original sentencing, the judge was saying, okay, we're going to do triple life plus 20, which means he's, that's a hundred year sentence. Okay, go away.

• 1:24:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Someday, some distant relative will be notified that you passed away in prison. Or sooner than that, if other inmates who react violently often to child molesters, you know, you know, invoke a form of capital punishment. So it's disgusting that this is the unintended consequences of a poorly run state, Pat. Some liberal puts this out on the, on the book. And this is where you go. But let me tell you, Gavin Newsom was a, well, I believe, did not take the bold.

• 1:25:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, I get it. Are you ready for this too? Thank God, thank God, he's such a scumbag that the prosecutor, Tom, we talked about this before this. Because he got the three lives, Pat, there's other cases that they're like, forget it. He's never gonna get out of jail. But because of this elderly parole program, as he's about to get paroled, new charges from a 1996 cold case from Roseville, California, they're gonna keep him in because of the other disgusting crimes that he did. So it's gonna be harder for him to leave. But if he didn't have other charges, the odds of him getting out of jail and being in the streets was gonna be high. So, good job, California, and Gavin Newsom.

• 1:25:46Adam Sosnick?

  Adam. To me, there's a bigger story here, and this is what it is. It's the difference between being nice and being kind. So, one time, this girl says, you know, this is my friend Adam, he's so nice. I go, no, I'm actually not that nice. I actually can be an a-hole sometimes, but I am kind. She goes, well, what's the difference? I said, let me explain. Nice will do things to protect your feelings and will please you and avoid conflict. And it's basically fake. It's surface level stuff, you know? Women tend to do the, hey, you know, how do I look? Oh, you look great, honey. And then they'll whisper, she doesn't look good. Kind does not protect people's feelings, it protects people.

• 1:26:28Adam Sosnick?

  So it genuinely cares, and you have to be okay being disliked to solve for the truth. Men tend to be more like this. I'll give you an example. I was dating a girl, it's like, you know, two years ago. And she came out of the bathroom, and right behind her, a full-on dude with a beard in a dress comes out of the bathroom. I go, sweetie, like... She goes, no, don't say anything, I don't wanna offend her. I go, offend her? It's a dude in a beard and a dress. No, I don't want any conflict. Yeah, I'm not cool with that. I said, I'm gonna say something. She goes, no, I don't wanna be that person. So finally, she convinces me not to say something. But what do I do?

• 1:27:12Adam Sosnick?

  I almost lecture her, I go, how are you comfortable with this? How are you... She ain't even trying. She has a beard, looks like Rob's beard came out of the bathroom. And because she has long hair and a dress, you're just gonna go for this? I said, what is wrong with you?

• 1:27:30Adam Sosnick?

  I said, you need to do better. I'm gonna say something. But the fact that you as the woman in the bathroom won't say anything is because you want to be nice. I just want to be nice. I go, I don't care about being nice. The right thing to do is say, dude, why are you in the bathroom with a beard with this girl?

• 1:27:47Patrick Bet-David?

  This is really bothering.

• 1:27:50Adam Sosnick?

  Well, doesn't it not bother you if your daughter or your daughter was in a bathroom and a dude in a beard showed up? Pat's bailing me out of jail. If I saw somebody come out of the bathroom, he's bailing me out of jail. There's a difference between being nice and appeasing.

• 1:28:02Tom Ellsworth?

  America needs more organ donors.

• 1:28:04Patrick Bet-David?

  It's our job as men to protect our women. That is our duty. It's our responsibility. So, you know, when I, when I see, when I hear stuff like that, it really bothers me. But that's the, you know, dumb stuff that California does, a, a beautiful state that ran by a terrible politician who now Congress House. You know how you guys are like, imagine if Trump wants to put, pull tariffs, put tariffs through them. What do you say? Well, put it through Congress. Go ahead. Now go be the governor of California. I want to put the, well, put it through Congress. You got forty-eight to four now after gerrymandering. Women, put it through Congress. Nothing's gonna pass through Congress. So California's got a bigger problem and he's attacking JD. He knows

• 1:28:45Patrick Bet-David?

  what's going on and he kind of doubled. It, it, it's almost as if he attacked both of them here, Rob, right? I think he attacked JD and he attacked Ruby. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:28:53Speaker 24

  Talk about a guy who put a mask on and his face grew into it. I mean, JD Vance and Marco Rubio were two of the most effective critics, just like that guy, what's his name? Graham Lindsay of Donald Trump. What frauds, what phonies.

• 1:29:11Speaker 24

  But JD is a unique fraud and phony. And he's a little more dangerous. And, uh, and the folks around him, these are not folks that believe, I mean, listen to some of the biggest funders, the way they talk. There's a nihilism to the way they talk about the world. I know these guys. I literally know them.

• 1:29:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. Dude, listen, you know what the reality is? You're doing such a horrible job that even CNN puts you as the lead dog at 19%. And number two is Kamala at 17%. Number three is Putin Buttigieg for whatever reason, he can't get the blackmail vote at 12%, 13%, and then number four is AOC. Just go to the poll, Rob, to show the poll instead of just watching the video. Look at that. 19, 18, 13, 12. How bad do you have to be Newsom? That you don't have a flat out, you know, if there's ever been a time,

• 1:30:08Patrick Bet-David?

  if there's ever been a time that a center-left Democrat Hollywood actor, former CEO of a massive bank that transacts, you know, tens of trillions of dollars per month. If there's ever been a time for somebody on the left that's a center-left is to run for president as a Democratic on the ticket, guess what? It is wide open. What Democrats are saying, they don't like Newsom, they don't like Harris, some people don't like Pete, and then AOC. I talked to, I don't know who I was talking to, Wall Street Journal guy calls me interviewing for whatever story he's doing it on, and I said to him, I said, you know, as crazy as things are right now, you know what is possible of happening?

• 1:30:51Patrick Bet-David?

  A progressive coming and winning. Oh, come on. Oh, no, no, no, no. Hey, listen, if this continues and you give three stories, say the affordability thing continues. Say, you know, what do you call it? Square block that just fired 4,000 people and they're probably going to fire 2,000 people and it made 25% and other companies follow lead and they keep firing people like that. Do you know how many good stories you're going to have for a progressive? You know how great of a, by the way, 2027, 2028 will be a phenomenal chance for a progressive to win.

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• 1:32:29Speaker 13

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• 1:33:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Phenomenal chance. I wouldn't be surprised if an outsider progressive comes in, just like nobody thought Mamdani was gonna win in, what do you call it, New York City, and he did. An AOC type of figure could come out and win. By the way, do you have that clip, Rob, that I saved of Bernie Sanders on what this one guy told him? This is, by the way, this, everybody needs to keep repeating this one line that Senator Mark Wayne Mullen said it, and by the way, Mark Wayne Mullen also ran up to Al Green to try to grab that, you know, the sign that he had, "Black people are not apes," or whatever the sign was that he was holding up. Watch what he says to Bernie Sanders here. Bernie has nothing to say.

• 1:33:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Please play this beautiful clip. Attack me, I'm gonna respond.

• 1:34:00Speaker 25

  I'm pointing out facts. You can say what you want. I'm just pointing out facts. Anyways, I ranted too long. Let's talk about some.

• 1:34:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, you did.

• 1:34:08Speaker 25

  I'm sorry, I didn't ask your opinion on that. And if I cared about your opinion, I would ask you, but I don't care about your opinion. You're part of the system. You're part of the problem. You've been sitting here longer than I've even been alive. This is your problem. You should have fixed this a long time ago.

• 1:34:21Patrick Bet-David?

  You're so right, Mr. Sanders. You seem like a nice guy. Forty-nine years or so you've been in. How come you haven't fixed these problems? How come you haven't? By the way, can you, can you make a list of, Rob, who are the longest sitting senators and congress? Folks that we have right now, longest sitting, who? Who are the longest sitting, longest sitting? Both sides, senators and congressmen today. You ready? Here's, here's what they're in. Chuck Grassley. How many years? Forty-five years. McConnell, forty years. Patty Murray, since ninety-three. Ron Wyden, ninety-six. Dick Durbin, ninety-seven. Hal Rogers, forty-four. Chris Smith, Marcy. How long has Bernie been in there, by the way? How long has Bernie been in there? He's probably stayed under them.

• 1:35:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Bernie's thirty-eight, thirty-six, thirty-five. What's the number? He's gotta be up there. How long has Bernie been in there? All thirty-five years. Thirty-five years. You guys have the least amount of credibility to tell anybody what to do. You've been working at a company for thirty-five years and you don't solve a problem? You know, if you don't do it within the first ninety days, you're fired. Here, you have a job for thirty-five years. But I'm telling you, don't be surprised if an outsider progressive comes out. But if there's any, if there's any of these Hollywood guys that are aspirational, that want to put their name in there and compete. Start going out there and hiring the right five, six, seven people around you. Get the right consulting from to get your guy prepped. Do the background checks, go through the whole process, check the Epstein files to make sure they're not on there. Check every one of these files to see where they're at.

• 1:35:51Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a wide open opportunity in two thousand twenty-eight for the Democratic ticket. Because Newsom simply sucks that much. That he can't get more than nineteen percent. No one even on his own side trusts him. No one even on his own side trusts him, even though he's the lead guy and Pritzker isn't even on that list. Now, I know, Tom, you thought Pritzker was gonna be the guy. He's not even on that list. Anyways.

• 1:36:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Ozempic didn't help him at all. I think he's still there. At this point, just real quick on history, we'll go on. I will not distract here, Pat. At this time in history, ladies and gentlemen, there is usually a 25 to 30% clear leader. Al Gore was that leader. Joe Biden was that leader. Hillary Clinton was that leader. Where everybody says, well, midterms are here, but that's our number one and it's very clear. And right now it's not. He goes to Geneva. He goes overseas. He goes to the world economic.

• 1:36:42Patrick Bet-David?

  No one cares.

• 1:36:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Davos and he can't get above 90%.

• 1:36:45Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not helping him.

• 1:36:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Although I like, I like the combination of AOC and Kamala Harris, right?

• 1:36:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I love that.

• 1:36:51Tom Ellsworth?

  The drunk and the bartender. It's perfect. Brought to you by Stolichnaya.

• 1:36:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Brought to you by what? Stolichnaya vodka. Oh, Stolichnaya vodka. Okay. All right, let's go to the next story. Thanks, Tom. Tom's comedy. I mean, he's performing tonight, guys. If you guys want to go to a local comedy club, Tom's gonna be performing for you. Uh, requirement for those of you guys to come to his show, you have to have an MBA to understand his jokes because it's, it's only for educated people.

• 1:37:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Let me help you out here, Tom.

• 1:37:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's only for the educated people. All right, let's go to the next one.

• 1:37:18Tom Ellsworth?

  At least that helps.

• 1:37:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Next story I want to go to. Next story I want to go to. I got two stories I'm gonna do and I'm gonna wrap up. Next story I'm gonna go to is, think having children will make you happier? Think again. Telegraph is telling you.

• 1:37:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Telegraph.

• 1:37:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta think twice about it, you people who want to have more children. So let's listen to what Telegraph has to say. And you know whose story this is? I picked this. But Adam wants to talk about it. Adam, I'm coming to you first. Here we go. That's right. Getting married and having children has been, uh, long been considered the cornerstone of a good life or simply the dumb thing. Yet around the world, women are choosing to have fewer children and there is no consensus on why. In England and Wales, fertility rates have sunk into the lowest level on record at 1.41 children per woman, well below the replacement rate of 2.1. This clearly, uh, brings challenges for society.

• 1:38:14Patrick Bet-David?

  The most obvious is for public finances if fewer tax, uh, future taxpayers are born. Who will pay the public services? Uh, there was a study done, parents tend to fare a little bit worse on life satisfaction than those without children. What a crock of shit. Rob, can you pull up this person here? Anskar Hude. Can you go find, German sociologist? Yeah, okay, go, go to his profile. That was tough. How many, I want to know how many kids he's got? How many kids does he have? Can you find that if he's got any kids? Let's find out if the, oh my, you know what he looks like? Wow, that's. He looks like a bobble head. He looks like a bobble head. Terrible. Yeah, it's not good. Wow, you know, he looks like a, I don't want to say, he looks terrible in that picture. Dude, you gotta change your, listen respectfully.

• 1:38:58Patrick Bet-David?

  That head is too big for those shoulders. That looks like that was AI. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. Like whoever took the picture, cut it from like, you know, like. Yeah. Crop it. Can we? It looks like Japanese AI, super deformed character. No, no, we can't show a picture like that. Let me fix this picture real quick. This is embarrassing. We have to help this guy out. I, I was about to take shots at this guy and I want to help him out. Uh, uh, look publicly, what's his name? Anskar what? Anskar Hude. Hude. Hadi. Look, I'm gonna, and what does he say? Does he have any kids or no? It says can't find any credible public biographical information confirming whether or not he has children. Can't find anything, right? Yeah, okay, so that, that's the problem with people like you.

• 1:39:40Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and you're allegedly a doctor, but let me read this to you, okay? He has studied

• 1:39:47Patrick Bet-David?

  the experience of forty-three thousand people across thirty European countries, including UK to understand how parenthood affects happiness. When asked how satisfied people feel with their lives, parents on average tend to feel slightly worse than their child free peers. However, much also depends on your circumstances. The more challenging the world circumstance, the over, worse having a child is for you, your well-being, being a single parent, having a lower socioeconomic class, a lower education. Okay, all right, buddy. Good for you. Adam, thoughts? I got, I'm, I'm gonna do some editing here on this picture and fix it. So this may take a second, Pat, so just bear with me. Oh my God.

• 1:40:27Adam Sosnick?

  The biggest lie that people in society have been told is the lie of modern feminism. And I will double down on that because you know, this guy, he said this is based on a survey. Let me tell you what I'm basing this on. Uh, my life, feelings, uh, what I've seen, I see what's going on here. So there's a big difference between men and women. Look, I've been, I've been very, yeah, there it is, Vinnie. You can't get pregnant. I'm just, I don't care what they say, stop chest feeding, it's not gonna happen. But, look, I've partied enough for 10 lifetimes. I've been very open about that. I've been all the parties, I've been all the yachts, I've been all the mansions, I've been all the trips. I've done it all.

• 1:41:04Speaker 02

  You've been with millionaires and billionaires?

• 1:41:05Adam Sosnick?

  Billionaires and billionaires, I've been with the women, I've done all that.

• 1:41:08Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 1:41:08Adam Sosnick?

  The only thing I haven't done is genuinely have a family with kids. So that's what I'm solving for now. And you might say, Adam, you're 45, is it too late? Not even close, bro. I know plenty of men who have basically landed that plane in their 40s, some in their 50s. How old were you when you had your first daughter? How old were you? Oh, barely, I was 44. Okay, there you go. So the challenge is, if you're a woman...

• 1:41:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, guys, let me do this. For those of you guys that are sick and tired of, of, of Adam always taking shots at Tom, can you send Tom a message and tell him how amazing he's looking lately with all the Stefano Ricci suits he's been wearing?

• 1:41:46Speaker 02

  Honestly. What is that, though?

• 1:41:47Patrick Bet-David?

  When we, in Vegas, we're walk and run. Facts, you ready?

• 1:41:51Speaker 02

  Tell him.

• 1:41:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I almost don't want to tell him.

• 1:41:53Speaker 02

  No, Kim's not gonna, she'll be, she understands, she gets it.

• 1:41:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I stand this way, because I have stiff arms this way. Vinnie stands this way.

• 1:42:01Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:42:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob is in the back with Adam. Girls are running and we can't let that happen, you have to protect them. So if you love Tom and you don't like Adam bullying Tom with his age, why don't you send him a message to Tom and tell him how amazing he looks? Go ahead.

• 1:42:12Adam Sosnick?

  No, you should have seen it, you should have seen it. We're, we're walking down there, these women are throwing underwear.

• 1:42:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't need to add anything else to it. When we do it, just leave it.

• 1:42:20Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:42:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Adam.

• 1:42:21Adam Sosnick?

  Um, let people hype you up, you don't need to be the hype man for yourself.

• 1:42:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's, that's...

• 1:42:26Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, there's plenty of times where I make fun of Tom's age, this is not one of those times. This is where I'm advocating that Tom took time to become a man of status, of valor. You think so, PBD? I wouldn't do that to Tom, Pat.

• 1:42:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, listen, we're gonna see, but go ahead, keep going.

• 1:42:41Adam Sosnick?

  So...

• 1:42:43Adam Sosnick?

  I'm at the White House the other day.

• 1:42:44Patrick Bet-David?

  There we go.

• 1:42:45Adam Sosnick?

  And I'm having a conversation with a beautiful woman in her 40s. And she says, what do you want to talk about? She's interviewing me. And I said, I could talk about whatever. I could talk politics. I could talk business.

• 1:42:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you gonna give a shout out to like seven people right now?

• 1:42:58Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, Pat. Shout them out, go ahead. You want to know what my point is? How can I get to my point if you keep interrupting me, sir? Shout out to your point.

• 1:43:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't appreciate you bullying Tom. Go ahead, go ahead, Kamala.

• 1:43:06Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know if we have that kind of time.

• 1:43:09Adam Sosnick?

  So I'm at the White House and I'm speaking with this woman. She says, let's talk about dating in the marketplace. And I go on this rant about how the number one thing that men want in their life, even if you could pull up this poll, I think it was a Pew poll. Still, to this day, young men want to have married and get married and have a kid.

• 1:43:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:24Adam Sosnick?

  Was that not number one?

• 1:43:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:26Adam Sosnick?

  And then they said, women, what, where, where does that rank on the list?

• 1:43:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Conservative males. Conservative males.

• 1:43:31Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 1:43:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Conservative young males want to get married.

• 1:43:33Adam Sosnick?

  Liberal males are called gays.

• 1:43:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, no, no, but conservative young males do want to get married and have kids. It's at the top of the pile.

• 1:43:40Adam Sosnick?

  And where was it at for, for women?

• 1:43:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Low.

• 1:43:42Adam Sosnick?

  It was number 12.

• 1:43:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, low.

• 1:43:44Adam Sosnick?

  So there's a huge schism between what men want and what women want. But to my friends out there, ladies, this is how it's going to end up on you. Here's how men operate. You tell me if this works.

• 1:43:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:52Adam Sosnick?

  Men want to make money. Why do we have nice houses, nice cars, nice clothes, nice jewelry? Not to impress other dudes. You think I care about impressing these guys over here? Men do this to impress women. So men want to actively acquire dependents. You know, when you do your tax forms?

• 1:44:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:08Adam Sosnick?

  And they go, how many dependents you have? Pat, how many dependents do you have?

• 1:44:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:44:11Adam Sosnick?

  Five.

• 1:44:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:44:13Adam Sosnick?

  You have four kids, you have Jen, these are your dependents.

• 1:44:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:44:15Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. Women want to make money to do what? Be independent. I don't need no man. I got my own money. Well, here's how that story ends. And if you believe this 40 something year old beautiful woman, she goes, I'm dying to have a kid. I'm dying to have a family and I fear that it's too late for me. What do you think? I go, sweetheart. It very well may be. You're in your 40s, you've, your, your prime is gone from you. You gotta, you better hit a Kobe Bryant last second, second shot clock if you're gonna have a kid.

• 1:44:46Patrick Bet-David?

  You told her that?

• 1:44:47Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. And she goes, you're right.

• 1:44:49Patrick Bet-David?

  She starts crying?

• 1:44:51Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, she was sad.

• 1:44:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that like a pickup line?

• 1:44:52Adam Sosnick?

  No, it was not a pickup line, Pat. PBD, I'm trying to tell a story here, sir.

• 1:44:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm, I'm really trying to follow where you're going with this, but go ahead.

• 1:45:00Adam Sosnick?

  Stop interrupting me, sir. I'd be done with the story.

• 1:45:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, you keep going, Adam.

• 1:45:04Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, I'm sorry. Can't get over the top. But there's more women than ever freezing their eggs. There's more women than ever considering having a baby alone. Imagine that.

• 1:45:13Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you do that?

• 1:45:14Adam Sosnick?

  They get, they have an egg.

• 1:45:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:16Adam Sosnick?

  They have an embryo, they put the sperm in and they have a baby.

• 1:45:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you.

• 1:45:19Adam Sosnick?

  And there's no man around. And this unfortunately is the future for women. And then I'll land the plane here. Land it. I've interviewed all types of people. What is? Glass of wine and a turkey baster. When we interviewed, when we, Tom, I just was trying to be nice to you. Don't make me do this to you now. Thank you, sir. We're going off the rails here.

• 1:45:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You go ahead.

• 1:45:37Adam Sosnick?

  Going off the rails. PBD, when we interviewed Tate.

• 1:45:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:40Adam Sosnick?

  What's the one concept, the one thing he goes, you really want me to go to jail? You would be wanting canceled? What was the one topic he didn't want to talk about?

• 1:45:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Women.

• 1:45:47Adam Sosnick?

  Women and feminism. Cause this is the one thing you can't talk about. The bottom line is this, women have been fed a complete crock of crap that they don't need no man, that they don't need to get married, that they don't need to have no kids. And what's gonna happen is they're gonna turn 40 and they're gonna realize, wow, it's all been a lie. You know, I had a very public issue with Chelsea Handler, although 10 toes down deep on you, ladies, you do not want to end up like Chelsea Handler. A bitter 50 year old woman that's still clinging to the jokes that were funny 30 years ago. It ain't cute anymore, Chelsea, with your newest facelift. So men can take longer to marinate. So the young men out there, if you're in your twenties and your thirties and you haven't figured it out

• 1:46:30Adam Sosnick?

  and you're not getting laid, you haven't find a woman, give it some time. For the women in their twenties and thirties that think that they're gonna give it some time and figure it out. The sad news is you're not. And that's the, that's the bottom line. That's the sad truth of reality. And I don't care what anybody says, men and women are different. Men are gonna take time.

• 1:46:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, is there anything you want to say?

• 1:46:48Adam Sosnick?

  Women don't waste their youth.

• 1:46:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom. Is there anything you want to say? Because I got a few things I want to say, but. I think you're gonna say what I'm gonna say. Before you say anything, I want to show what's important because I always like to keep my commitments. Rob, can you please show our friend here what we did for him? So show the before picture. So that's a, that's a nice picture. Use that when you have small shoulders. Use a picture like that. Yes. But if you do at no cost, by the way, don't, don't worry about zelling or sending any kind of money. Go to the next slide, Rob, if you could. So that's a good picture he should use. That actually looks good. He, this angle's a good angle for him. Nice symmetry with his nose, kind of twisted to the right a little because mine's going to the left. And then you see, you see the ears, the eyebrows, beautiful eyes. But then look what we did. Here's what we did. Go to the next one, Rob, if you could. See? The, the left picture, better shoulders. Yeah.

• 1:47:33Patrick Bet-David?

  The right one, not exactly, and if you really want to go to it, go ahead, Rob. If you really want to go to like. But there's a, there's a lot of different things we could do. Looks like Brandon. It does look like Brandon. Anyway.

• 1:47:46Adam Sosnick?

  Does he have autism?

• 1:47:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Look, here's, here's, uh, here's what I will tell you, man. Be very careful who you take the advice from. Oh my God. It's today's social media. I watch some of these guys talk in such a certain way. And then go to the proof. What's life look like? You know, you, you, I met a guy the other day who has 11 kids. I think his name is Moshe. Yeah. Him and his wife got married in the early twenties. Okay. And they have 11 kids, no twins, and she had them all herself. Yeah. Okay. Incredible story, incredible family. What's the lady's name? What's her name? That's Yafa. Yafa. I don't know Yafa, who you are. Congratulations. We need to turn people like that into heroes. Yafa, whoever you are, credit to you, right? For, for carrying and having 11 kids.

• 1:48:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So to me, I, I, I, I, I looked at the numbers here. Do you know in the history of America? We had 3.6 million kids born last year in 2025. Okay? Adam, do you want to know? With 340 million kids, we had 3.6 million kids born last year. With 300, we had 340 million people. 340 million people in America, we had 3.6 million kids born. So just. In 1950, what's the population, Rob, in 1950? What's US population in 1950? I think it's 180 or something like that. What's US population in 1950? It should be like 150 to 180. Okay. With 151 million kids, we had 3.6 million kids. Wow. In 1950. During the baby boom. Stay with me here. Yes.

• 1:49:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know three times in the history of America, we went on a run where Americans had 4 million plus kids every year? One time we did five years in a row. One time we did seven years in a row. One time we did 11 years in a row. Okay? And the highest we've ever done is like 4.23 million kids. 4.23 million kids. And we went through a list of why we think this is taking place. Do you know the craziest number about 1950 versus today? What's that? In 1950, I think the, we were doing 3.75 kids or 3.57 kids birth rate. Today it's 1.58. But in 1950, only 35% of women were in the workforce. Today it's 70%. Bingo. That are in the workforce. Yeah. 35, let me finish. 35, 70%.

• 1:49:56Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what my challenge is? Last night we're having dinner with these three guys. And Blake is sitting next to me. Model looking guy with his beautiful wife. I saw the wife at the church the other day while I went to the tiny dancer thing. And let me show you guys something, guys. Can I brag a little bit? Can I brag just a little bit? I'm trying to see if I can even show this video or not. Tiny dancer? I'll show you right now. So, you know what I told them? I said, listen, man, whatever you do, go have another one. Go have another one. Go have another one. Go, I said, listen, if my wife right now said she's open to the idea of another one, I'm canceling the plans in Vegas and I'm traveling back home just to have another one. Wow. The idea of having a child, it is honestly, God's given me so many gifts. God's given you so many gifts.

• 1:50:41Patrick Bet-David?

  The viewers that you're listening, God's given you so many gifts. Even if life sucks, man, if you really think about it, make a list of things to be grateful for. Even after you got fired and you just filed the bankruptcy and your wife left you, you still have a lot of things to be grateful for. Trust me. Life is amazing. It sucks at times, but life is amazing. As crazy as it is for everything I've experienced, okay? Rob, I'm gonna send this to you, Rob. As crazy as it is, this one little look here is everything.

• 1:51:09Patrick Bet-David?

  There's one little look here. One little look here that you get. When you go to church.

• 1:51:15Speaker 02

  Tell me a picture of Brooklyn.

• 1:51:16Patrick Bet-David?

  And she's doing a, uh, uh, uh, what do you call it? She's doing a.

• 1:51:19Speaker 02

  There it is.

• 1:51:20Patrick Bet-David?

  She's doing a something. Look, look what she's doing and who she's looking at.

• 1:51:23Speaker 02

  Look at her in the middle.

• 1:51:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at her face.

• 1:51:24Speaker 02

  Look at her.

• 1:51:28Speaker 02

  Look at her.

• 1:51:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I love Brooklyn.

• 1:51:29Speaker 02

  She's my favorite. Look at her.

• 1:51:31Patrick Bet-David?

  She's the one with the pink dress in the middle, guys. I am the happiest man alive with that look.

• 1:51:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I am the happiest man alive when she just makes that look. Look at that look.

• 1:51:44Speaker 02

  Look at her.

• 1:51:45Patrick Bet-David?

  It looks like a little mini Dylan, I swear. So to me, this idea about having kids, the sooner you can start, better for you. Of course, find a good partner. Don't just go screw around and just say, I'm just gonna have a kid, just have a kid, and that's all I'm gonna be doing. You know, we, we were talking about a guy that, I met him the first time with his wife. That marriage didn't work out, so you got another girl pregnant, and that relationship didn't work out. Then you have to take care of that kid. Then there's that person in your life. Then you have to marry somebody else. Then you have to do this. You know, a baby mama drama and all that noise that you're creating in your life, you have to find a way to do it the right way, folks. And remember, just because somebody's overly confident and convincing doesn't mean they're right. Okay? It doesn't mean they're right. Look at people with what life gets results. That's a peaceful life.

• 1:52:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, you can still get married and it could not work out. You can still have kids, and it could be painful. It's gonna be challenging. But there's not a better feeling. All my accomplishments I've had in my life, whatever the accomplishments that some people may be like, oh my God, I can't believe you did this. I have, my biggest accomplishments are these four kids. Greatest gift God ever gave me. I don't have a better gift than that. And by the way, when I tell you, of course, my wife is within that family because we made these kids together. Okay? So the love is equal there. But the gift that we got, the houses, the travels, the meetings, the money, the, you know, all, nothing comes close to those four gifts God gave you. So whoever this guy is, and I'm sure he's a nice guy. Okay? And by the way, I don't even know, I'd like to know,

• 1:53:12Patrick Bet-David?

  like, if somebody says stat like that, I want, I want to know, are you part of LGBTQ community? Are you? If you're gay and saying stats like that, what do you think? How was your upbringing? What was your family like? What was your mom and dad like? What was your relationship like? We don't know these stories. We don't. So this is me talking from my opinion, what I think on having kids. If you're able to do it, life changing. So I want to play this next clip and Tom, I'm gonna come to you first. Here's Tom Brady. Tom Brady, you know, when it comes on to talking about father, there's one interview that he once did where a guy asked him a question. And the question was, who's your hero? And Rob, I don't know if you have that one or not. I haven't sent it to you. So if you find it, it's not on you. It's, I didn't send it to you.

• 1:53:56Patrick Bet-David?

  He's being interviewed in a Super Bowl and he asked, who is your hero? And I've seen this thing hundreds of times. It's that one right there. Can you pause it real quick? So imagine this is the greatest quarterback of all time. He is one of the most incredible competitors of all time. Obsessive personality, paying attention to details. Nobody puts more pressure on him than himself. Comes from an amazing family of a bunch of sisters. I think it's three of them. Great mom and dad. He's being asked at the Super Bowl by another kid, who's your hero? Look at the reaction.

• 1:54:31Speaker 26

  Who's my hero? It's a great question. Well, I think my dad is my hero because he's someone that I look up to every day. And, uh,

• 1:54:49Speaker 26

  my dad.

• 1:54:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you?

• 1:54:56Speaker 02

  He didn't have to say anything.

• 1:54:57Patrick Bet-David?

  He didn't have to say anything.

• 1:54:58Speaker 02

  You saw it all in his eyes.

• 1:54:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Friggin', look. So, so, so now watch, watch what happens when you raise a family with love and tough love. In this example, he talks about how children only grow outside of their comfort zone. So don't get it twisted. Love isn't like, oh my God, you can never make my little Johnny would never make a mistake. Oh, no, no, no. They would make a mistake. And they're gonna make a lot of mistakes. And they're gonna make a lot of things that are gonna be dumb. And you know, you're gonna have to come to their defense at times. But sometimes they're gonna be screwing up and, you know, where it is something they did wrong. But watch how he explains your tough love from a parent. And Tom, I want to come to you with this one. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:55:38Speaker 27

  Most people don't want to be pushed that hard. Yeah. They want to be pushed to their level of comfort. And that once they're outside their comfort zone, they're like, oh, I'm not used to this. Oh, I don't like this. My heart's beating too fast. Or, man, I'm feeling different feelings and emotions. And it's like, that's where you're, that's where the growth lives. You need coaches that push you outside your comfort zone because that's how you grow. And that's how you begin to develop self-confidence and self-esteem in what you're doing. Yeah. You try, you fail. They push you to deal with the failure. You get another chance to go out and practice and practice it. Then you succeed and you realize, oh, that's what I need to do differently the next time. As opposed to the athletes who try something that's hard, they fail.

• 1:56:22Speaker 27

  And now it discourages them from trying the same thing that's hard again.

• 1:56:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Bulletproof mindset. Bulletproof mindset. Tom, thoughts? Your daughter, your daughter's a competitive swimmer, so that's why I'm coming to you.

• 1:56:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I've, you know, it's really funny. You could have the same parents and you have kids that are very different in their own way and their own uniqueness. And that uniqueness is just the, the God-given beauty of the fingerprint of each, each kid that, um, that's there. But, um, I have one who's very, I don't know which one's more competitive, like deep in their heart. But I know which one's more competitive out there on her sleeve. So I got one of them that's really, really competitive. And she knows that you gotta keep working on it. You gotta keep working on it. And she's got this little thing. It's like, um, strong on land, fast on the water. And so she's going to workouts. She's doing stuff and she understands the sacrifices. And I think one of the things was, you know, setting a vision for them.

• 1:57:16Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, it, setting a vision for your kids and putting it out there. And I told Bailey early on, I said, you know, your GPA, you know, um, extra credit things, you know, captain of a team, doing the yearbook, add all that up. And you're building this resume for life. And that way you can go and you can choose what you want to do out in the future. And, or other people can choose it for you. And you gotta, but guess what? There's people out there that want it and somebody wants it more than you want it. And that creates competition. But you have to give them the love and support, but you don't insulate them from

• 1:57:56Tom Ellsworth?

  consequences. It drives me nuts. You know, when I was growing up, it was a different world. And my mom would just say, hey, before the sun comes down, you be back home. And I was on my bike down two doors down with my buddies. And that was it. Now, everybody worries about their kids. They wanna, it's like when I go to the ocean, I see kids with these little slippers to walk in the ocean. You know what I'm talking about? And water wings and a life jacket. And I said, look, if they're not ready for the ocean, they should be learning to swim at a public pool with a teacher or something somewhere. They shouldn't be in the ocean. But why are they got water wings and a life jacket like they're about to jump off a, you know, a cruise ship that's, that's listing? That's ridiculous to me. You got to give them

• 1:58:38Tom Ellsworth?

  room to try and room to fail. And we protect everybody from emotions. And Tom Brady is exactly right. He is so correct. Set the challenges out and, you know, be there to help them, be there to encourage them.

• 1:58:52Speaker 02

  And I'm, the, the power of parents, Pat, I get to see firsthand with you with what you're doing with Dylan Tico, Brooklyn and Senate Live. So it's like a training manual that I've had for the three years that I've been here. And we talked about sometimes like, like, you need a good father, you need a good family. But sometimes when the father's not there, like with me, he was there, but he wasn't there. And then once he's gone, a strong mother who steps up, Pat, how important, my mom stepped up, took the torch and ran, you know, I can't tell you. She's an angel. Pat, the, the, as you were playing that, my mom messaged me and said, Vinny, what, during Brooklyn, she goes, I had that feeling when you were winning the trumpet awards when I was young. I won the Conrad Gauze Award at such a level. She just mess Tom, my mom,

• 1:59:36Speaker 02

  and I'm telling you right now, the importance of not giving up and going there. When I called, I'm going to military, I'm doing this. Mom, I'm leaving, I'm gonna go be an actor. She's like, do it. I'm in California and I feel like my world's coming to an end. I'm losing friends to drugs and everything. I go, Mom, I met this guy on Instagram, Patrick Medev, she goes, Surayla, he's Assyrian. Go, take the leap of faith, go and do it. You need those people. And I know sometimes. There's exceptions to the rule, people that didn't, you know, the adopted people that go and they do it. But having that support and having that love, I think is so, so, so important. Seeing Brooklyn look at you like that, that, that feeling, that feeling for people that don't have kids makes me like, okay, I need to step up because you need to have it. And, uh, yeah, and that's it. And my mom's watching right now. So mom, I love you.

• 2:00:21Adam Sosnick?

  Sweet Lana, we love you.

• 2:00:22Speaker 02

  She's watching.

• 2:00:23Tom Ellsworth?

  More dessert. More dessert, mom.

• 2:00:25Speaker 02

  Bye bye. She goes, don't cry, mom. She just messaged me. Don't make, don't cry.

• 2:00:29Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, can I put a ribbon on this?

• 2:00:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, of course.

• 2:00:31Adam Sosnick?

  I think you're gonna appreciate this.

• 2:00:32Speaker 02

  Go for it.

• 2:00:33Adam Sosnick?

  So we're talking about Tom Brady, who's the freaking goat. I love Tom Brady. And you're talking about kids. There's a special kid out there that's a sick athlete. His name is Dylan Bet David. Here's some video, some footage of Tom Brady throwing the football with Dylan Bet David running routes. Oh, he said, he said.

• 2:00:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Play it back so they can see what he does. He corrects him in front of everybody. This is a perfect example.

• 2:01:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Host.

• 2:01:00Speaker 06

  Hit him, Dylan.

• 2:01:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Says, learns your lessons, young man.

• 2:01:09Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a perfect example of Tom.

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• 2:03:17Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:22Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, I think there's one more video. By the way, he had PBD run a route.

• 2:03:26Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, "When are you gonna run a route?" I'm like, "What do you mean?" Do you have that one or no? I think you do run a route. By the way, Tico also ran a route. Is this it?

• 2:03:36Adam Sosnick?

  But Tico's a Brady-iac.

• 2:03:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Tico also caught the ball, by the way. They're playing catch right there.

• 2:04:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Was this 24 or 23?

• 2:04:04Adam Sosnick?

  This was...

• 2:04:04Patrick Bet-David?

  23. Anyway, so, go ahead.

• 2:04:07Adam Sosnick?

  September 1st, 2023.

• 2:04:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it. Go for it, Adam. If you want to put the ribbon.

• 2:04:10Adam Sosnick?

  No, this was it. This was amazing. The moment, I mean, listen. Tom Brady's the goat. And the fact that you, you're talking life lessons, you're talking Dylan, you're talking what it's like to be a father. I mean, Tom Brady is incredible. I'll say this. You know, I interview a lot of my friends, like my buddies, and I go, "All right, guys, tell me what it's all about." They go, "Adam, let me tell you something. It's all about the kids." You go, "Yeah, of course I love my wife. I love my wife to death. Of course I love my wife. She's the best." But it's all about the kids. I go, give me the, give me the real stuff. They go, it's all about the kids. You know what no married men with kids say? They go, dude, just get married, be with one woman the rest of your life. Don't even worry about kids. You don't need kids. They do nothing for you.

• 2:04:54Adam Sosnick?

  Never have them. They always say it's all about the kids. So I believe the people with kids telling me about the kids versus some weird LGBT dude in London. Whatever he is, whatever he may be, I trust the people that have kids to give me the insight versus.

• 2:05:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Is he LGBT?

• 2:05:13Adam Sosnick?

  It doesn't even matter to me. The fact that he doesn't have kids is the fact that.

• 2:05:17Speaker 02

  He doesn't have shoulders. I don't.

• 2:05:19Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, here, huh? Here's PBD running a route. Which one's this?

• 2:05:21Speaker 02

  Oh, this guy.

• 2:05:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Part of me.

• 2:05:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm telling you, part of me doesn't want to show this. I don't, I don't want to get a call from the Raiders. Listen, go ahead, go ahead, Rob. Just show it. It's okay. It's okay. Watch this.

• 2:05:35Adam Sosnick?

  Look at you picking on the young.

• 2:05:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Sean is in the back.

• 2:05:37Speaker 02

  Oh, look at Gabriel. Look at Gabriel in the back. Gabriel, schnammeloch.

• 2:05:45Patrick Bet-David?

  With the suit. Let's see.

• 2:05:46Adam Sosnick?

  Brady, you bet David right here.

• 2:05:51Speaker 02

  Look at this guy.

• 2:05:53Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, we got him.

• 2:05:56Speaker 02

  Guys, I'm gonna, I'm gonna represent you, pal. Be your agent for the Raiders.

• 2:05:59Adam Sosnick?

  Let me just say one thing.

• 2:06:00Tom Ellsworth?

  On behalf of the Oakland Raiders, who I've suffered with for years, that's better than anything we got. I'd like to give you an invitation to training camp.

• 2:06:09Adam Sosnick?

  Yes. Is there any cooler feeling than guys getting together, go, you, Brady, the kids throwing the football? We could say we love women and going out. There's no cooler feeling than the boys hanging out tossing the football like that.

• 2:06:22Patrick Bet-David?

  It's good. Okay, Rob, do we want to do the Iran story or do we want to do the, Tom, I'm going to come to you with the Iran story because there's a lot of stuff that's going on with that that just came out. I think Witkoff, is that the one that's in the story, Rob, or?

• 2:06:33Speaker 02

  Yes, they met yesterday and spoke for hours. Looks like no nuclear deal has been reached.

• 2:06:38Patrick Bet-David?

  No nuclear deal has been reached. That's page 26. And then not only did no nuclear deals. Reach, but there was a lot more than that. So, Iran, which one is it that says they went to it viewing? There it is. Viewing the satellite imagery and monitoring the Iranian nuclear sites. We don't see any evidence that they are trying to reconstitute their nuclear weapon programs, said David Albright, a former United Nations Weapons Inspector, president of Institute of Science. They are essentially on hold. Steve Whitkop, the US negotiator, told Fox News that Iran is probably a week away from having industrial-grade bomb-making material. That assessment would imply that a significant part of Iran's uranium enrichment capability

• 2:07:20Patrick Bet-David?

  survived last year's strikes and that Iran can also still access some of its enriched uranium stockpiles, which were believed to have been buried under rubble last June. Many analysts are skeptical that Iran could easily do so at the bombed facilities. While this is going on, there's a couple of things. Iran reportedly turns to Communist China to checkmate US. On top of that, a tweet, Mario Nafal, just send that, I don't know if it's Mario Nafal or for somebody else, Rob, I just sent it to you a minute ago, not a minute ago, probably 30 minutes ago, reporting that, do you see it? Right here, Marco Rubio? Yeah, Marco Rubio.

• 2:08:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Just in, Secretary Marco Rubio, State Department is authorized in evacuation of non-emergency US personnel and their family from Israel because of safety risks and China is also evacuating their people from Iran. So if they're both on the same page, do you think there's been a call between the two of them together? Hey, are you guys, like, if China's leaving as well, then that means China and US are on the same team with this? If that's what's taking place, correct me if I'm wrong, Tom. They seem like they're being teammates here on leaving. And I don't know, obviously, you know, some things changed with tariffs, so China's probably sitting in a better place with the tariffs that was, you know, changed due to Supreme Court. But Tom, what do you think is happening here?

• 2:08:47Tom Ellsworth?

  I think there's two things happening. The first thing that's happening is Whitkoff and Jared Kirshner have been there and three times they've been through it, three times they're doing, it's a little bit of window dressing. They know that they, that the simple thing, you must stop weapons-grade creation forever. You know, people say, well, what about nuclear energy? Number one, you've got more natural gas than God. You don't need nuclear energy, but nuclear energy is made with different materials that are prepared differently, that can be prepared above ground and new, small footprint, efficient reactors. Okay, what's your next excuse? I'm just not going to give it up. And I think that they've negotiated three times in the last week, Pat. They've given it up and we've

• 2:09:30Tom Ellsworth?

  pulled everything in there. And Midnight Hammer, at the time, you guys remember, hold me honest, I'm not gonna hold me honest, but make sure I- I'll hold you, period. No, no.

• 2:09:40Speaker 02

  Hold them, hold them tight.

• 2:09:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Just check me on this, on the history. There were analysts out there, defense analysts, like people from Janes, that said that Operation Midnight Hammer may not have done as much damage as we thought it did. That we, did we beat the crap out of some stuff in some facilities? Yes. But did we get down deep enough to really get to things? Maybe not. And so now it looks like there's intelligence that says, hey, we can do it. And so I think we've got everything lined up, Pat, and I think we're gonna strike. And I think they're gonna hit the facilities. There's three separate locations that are targeted. We've got all of the advanced tactical, and I don't, help me out, what is the name of the Air Force base that the US uses in northern Israel? It's where they, anyway, there's like-

• 2:10:26Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know. 15, 20 of our advanced tactical fighters there. The USS Gerald Ford has moved. And so there's, there's three angles of attack here. And you've also got the big, high, the big, high-altitude bombers sitting on Diego Garcia, getting ready to go with all the refueling. So you can see three punches, they're ready to be thrown. And I think everybody knew, Pat, that- Iran was not going to give up this number one request. Never do it again.

• 2:10:58Speaker 02

  Is it the Ramad?

• 2:10:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep, Ramad Air Force Base is where they put all the advanced fighters.

• 2:11:03Speaker 02

  Bingo.

• 2:11:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I think they knew it, Pat, that Iran was not going to say, "You can never develop a bomb." I don't think they were ever going to give it up.

• 2:11:09Patrick Bet-David?

  While this is happening, Hezbollah allegedly says, "Won't intervene if US strikes Iran." Group says, but it does have a red line. What the hell do you mean, "You won't intervene"?

• 2:11:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Can I?

• 2:11:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You're funded by Iran. What do you mean, "You won't intervene"?

• 2:11:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Can I translate that? Uh, we're all running to Lebanon. Please don't kick our ass on the way to do an errand in Iran.

• 2:11:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Right. And then at the same time, Khamenei is having leaders, meetings with his leaders, allegedly, and his leaders are having to be blindfolded to walk into a tunnel, like an underground location, to see him have a conversation with them, just so you don't know where you're walking and where you're being transported.

• 2:11:41Speaker 02

  So they don't rat on him?

• 2:11:42Tom Ellsworth?

  So if you're captured later and you get something injected into you courtesy of the pharmaceutical industry, then you start talking about everything you know?

• 2:11:50Speaker 02

  Can I ask you a question though, Pat? Like if, uh, if, correct me if I'm wrong. We did the, the bombing, we did bunker busters, everything. Everybody was going crazy, World War III. Okay, done. Now, again, they're trying to build or nuke or whatever, so what if, like, we're gonna bomb them again? But I thought the mission was the people, the 40,000 that were dead in the streets. The mission was to help the people, get rid of the leader, and like bombing the nuclear site, okay, I, I understand that, that's very important, but the mission is the people that are dying, that are still dying in the streets, the people that are in the prisons right now, they're getting tortured and killed. I thought that was the mission. That's, so I'm, I'm kind of confused that, okay.

• 2:12:27Patrick Bet-David?

  You're asking a question that a lot of people are asking, and what a lot of other people are saying is, "Hey, this sounds like the, hey, there's weapons of mass destruction."

• 2:12:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:12:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Sounds like that script a little bit, and that criticism is a fair criticism to give, uh, because you, you know, there's an audience that voted for no war, so, and they, by the way, they have the right to be as critical as they want, but at the same time, you know, if they do it, and it's a surgical, surgical mission like they did with Venezuela, Trump's administration also gains a lot of respect for doing it that way. So, we'll see. You know, Rachel Campos Duffy did say something, which was very interesting this morning. She said, um... About, you know, and Trump's getting a little too cozy with communist Delcy Rodriguez. And she says she can't be trusted. Every time Trump, watch this, every time, right, is that the clip?

• 2:13:19Speaker 24

  Yes, sir.

• 2:13:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you play that clip and go to the last 30 seconds? Play it from right there. Go for it.

• 2:13:27Speaker 24

  Come on.

• 2:13:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, we have issues with that. Okay. So she says every time Trump mentions-

• 2:13:32Speaker 28

  Situation with the Chinese. One last thing. I am coming to you right now from Miami. Every time President Trump says, "I'm working well, well with Delcy Rodriguez." Every time he says that, he drops five points here in, in Miami-

• 2:13:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Think about that.

• 2:13:46Speaker 28

  Where people hate the communists and know exactly what this is about. We need to stabilize, yes, but we need to announce an, an election date and get to an election because that's how we actually um, uh, have freedom and, and security in the Western Hemisphere.

• 2:14:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree. I agree. So meaning if they're gonna do this Iran thing and the elections in Iran are not gonna be quick or fast, another regime's gonna come in and take over.

• 2:14:11Speaker 24

  That's what I'm saying. That's I don't-

• 2:14:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So, but at the same time, listen, this is the risk of diplomacy, this the risk of war, this the risk of politics, this the risk of being a president? Adam, do you have any thoughts on this?

• 2:14:19Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, of course. Well, taking out Iran and the Ayatollah is America first. How could I say that? What does that mean? Because if you're only a surface level thinker, then you're not gonna agree with me. You're, "What do you mean? You're just trying to get us in more wars." Nobody wants war. But you know the iceberg effect? Where you only see the top 10% of the iceberg, but the 90% is below? Let me walk you through this right now. So, nuclear weapons, hey, how you doing, Merle?

• 2:14:44Speaker 24

  I love you.

• 2:14:45Adam Sosnick?

  Nuclear weapons, of course, we've been talking about that forever.

• 2:14:48Speaker 24

  So fun.

• 2:14:48Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, that's the surface level. Okay, what's going on? There's 40,000, 80,000 Iranians killed. Okay, that's what's going on there. Here's what we do. Here's what we do know. Israel, I'm sorry, Iran fears Israel. More than they do the United States. Because Israel has taken out all their proxies. And if we just look at history, Israel has done more to affect Iran than the United States. It's kind of like Israel will beat them up in the fight, and the United States comes in in the tenth round and knocks them out. So you should be worried about what Israel is doing. So beyond that, why is taking out Iran America first? The deepest level is if you take out Iran, who gets affected the most? Our greatest enemies, China and Russia.

• 2:15:32Adam Sosnick?

  Because who fuels all of China's economy? Venezuela and Iran, the oil. So if we take over Venezuela's oil, which we've done essentially, if we somehow replace the regime in Iran, China will get weaker. So our greatest foe, or competitor, or enemy, whatever you want to call them, is China. But before you beat the final boss like in Mike Tyson's Punch-Out,

• 2:15:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:57Adam Sosnick?

  You gotta beat Don Flamenco, and you gotta beat the hippo, you gotta beat these guys, and then you get to the final boss. So, and then here's the funniest thing about China. They're so aligned with Iran. They're so aligned with the Muslim world. Do you see what China is doing to Muslims in China? They're putting them in camps, these Uighurs. I think, fact-check me on this, I think China has called Islam a mental disease. By the way, China is anti-religion. The Communist Party does not believe in... So it's all this duct-taped diplomacy. All our enemies, their only thing bonding them together is that they want to bring down America and the West. And what does Iran call America?

• 2:16:42Adam Sosnick?

  The great Satan, Israel, the little Satan. They also say, "Death to America, death to Israel, death to England." All our enemies have this duct-taped diplomacy, and their only common bond is they want to take down America. If we can stay together and stay strong and not stay divided, we'll defeat these horrible enemies of ours.

• 2:17:00Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a very high level of uncertainty of what's gonna happen. No one knows what's gonna happen. I have a very simple philosophy. I'm rooting for us to succeed on this mission. And I do believe Iran, the current regime, the IRGC, is horrible for the world, horrible for everybody, period. The way they treat their people, absolutely horrendous what they do. The world is a better place. If they fall. Having said that, what is today, Rob? Today is Friday. What do we have coming up? By the way, I had a conversation with Terrence Howard yesterday. I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. Guys, he said some stuff about Denzel. He said some stuff about, we talked about Epstein. He talked about the girl. He talked about so many interesting things.

• 2:17:45Patrick Bet-David?

  That podcast is going to come out next week. And then what else do we have coming out next week? Joe Lonsdale as well. Oh, one of the co-founders of Palantir, yeah, billionaire. And that's going to come out next week. But in the interim, whatever you're doing, gang, have an incredible weekend coming up. And again, do not forget that this bullying needs to stop. I mean, seriously, it needs to stop. So if you want the bullying to stop, you know, send a message to Tom for him to, you know, get some. And if you want to criticize Adam about how much bullying he's doing, send a message to him as well. And Team USA, go to VTmerch.com, place your order. God bless everybody. Have a great weekend.

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