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Chapters:
00:00:00 THIS CAR POD!
00:01:16 Mercedes-AMG GT Four Door Coupe
00:05:36 Brabus Bodo
00:09:11 The New BMW M3 CS Is Manual
00:17:41 THe Ferrari HC25
00:19:46 Land Rover And Jeep To Collaborate?
00:22:21 The VW I. D. Buzz Is Back
00:24:49 Talk Cars
00:27:19 Hoovie Is Auctioning Cars On Cars and Bids
00:45:17 Hoovie's Taxes
00:48:52 Hoovie Blew Up His Gullwing
01:12:14 Community Questions
01:13:03 Is Doug A Maniac In Real Life?
01:16:12 Who Would Hoovie Steal From Doug's Team?
01:17:56 How Did Hoovie Find A Car Girl To Marry?
01:21:02 What Other Country Would Hoovie Move To?
01:22:11 Why Doesn't Cars And Bids Announce When A Reserve Is Met?
01:24:23 When Is Hoovie Moving To San Diego?
01:24:50 Would Hoovie Get A Pagoda SL?
01:25:50 What Percentage Of Hoovie's Cars Get Driven?
01:27:16 What Car Brand Has Left You The Most Dissapointed?
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1:04 Doug DeMuro? Hello and welcome to This Car Pod. This is a very special This Car Pod because today is my birthday. Oh, and because we have Hoovie here.
1:15 Speaker 03 Hello.
1:16 Doug DeMuro? It is my birthday. You got anything to say?
1:18 Speaker 03 I had no idea. Happy birthday.
1:20 Doug DeMuro? Is it really? The day this pod is airing is my birthday.
1:23 Speaker 03 I see.
1:24 Doug DeMuro? Not filming, though, so you don't say anything.
1:26 Speaker 03 Daddy? You're getting a little older. That's funny. I've called you daddy for almost 10 years now. I'm older than you. I'm gonna turn 40 this year.
1:32 Doug DeMuro? You're gonna turn 40?
1:33 Speaker 03 Forty.
1:34 Doug DeMuro? Wow, how's that feeling?
1:35 Speaker 03 Not good. It's falling apart. You know, I hired Brian. We were talking about this because he used to be the prettiest guy to come on the podcast. And now, I mean, look at me. I'm falling apart.
1:42 Doug DeMuro? You think you were the prettiest guy to come on? What about Filippo?
1:45 Speaker 03 Oh, I forget Filippo.
1:46 Doug DeMuro? What about Filippo?
1:47 Speaker 03 Oh, I know.
1:48 Doug DeMuro? It's unbelievable.
1:49 Speaker 03 I know.
1:49 Doug DeMuro? He comes over here, he insults Nick straight away.
1:52 Speaker 03 That's right.
1:53 Doug DeMuro? Uh, let's start with the news. I want to start with the news. Then we'll talk about all of the Hoovie situations. I got questions geared specifically toward you.
2:00 Speaker 03 Whoa.
2:01 Doug DeMuro? I got, we're gonna do Hoovie Talk Cars. It's gonna be a big Hoovie episode. But let's start with news. We're gonna get Hoovie's takes on some car news. Hoovie doesn't do car news, so it's gonna be interesting.
2:09 Speaker 03 I don't keep up on things past 2007, so...
2:11 Doug DeMuro? Same, brother, Sam. Nick and Hoovie haven't done any post-2007. I'm gonna have to carry all this. Okay, uh, the first big news story is this, which is the new Mercedes AMG GT 4-door coupe. I'm gonna just make this clear. There's a Mercedes AMG GT... Coupe. There's a Mercedes AMG GT four door. And now there's a Mercedes AMG GT four door Coupe.
2:36 Doug DeMuro? Is this troublesome for you?
2:37 Speaker 03 I have no idea.
2:38 Doug DeMuro? This is why you stopped paying attention to cars made after 2007.
2:41 Speaker 03 I guess so.
2:42 Doug DeMuro? It's stuff like this.
2:44 Speaker 04 It is quite the mouthful to say all those differentiators. I think the big thing here is it's all electric, right? So we were all hoping for V8s and AMG's been talking about V8s. It's a 1,153 horsepower, which sounds good, but it's all EV. The, the front profile is, I think, fine. It looks Mercedes. I don't love the light bar across. The side to me looks Audi RS E-tron or Taycan, like they all very similar.
3:08 Doug DeMuro? Same kind of basic.
3:09 Speaker 04 Rear though, have you seen the rear?
3:11 Doug DeMuro? The rear's weird, the rear's weird with the, with the circle lights.
3:13 Speaker 04 Yeah.
3:15 Doug DeMuro? Who, this car's 1,153 horsepower. You, you got any?
3:18 Speaker 03 So I assume in the sub two second category would like the Taycan Turbo.
3:22 Doug DeMuro? Like everything else.
3:23 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's just, it's all the same. Okay, we've all, we have this warp barrier that everybody's passing.
3:28 Doug DeMuro? Right.
3:28 Speaker 03 And then what's next? I mean, it's just.
3:31 Doug DeMuro? Well, I don't, I'm not thinking about what's next. I'm thinking about what's now.
3:33 Speaker 03 Okay, okay, well.
3:35 Doug DeMuro? You ever think about getting a Taycan? They're pretty cheap used.
3:37 Speaker 03 They are, I mean, down the road, I think they'll get there. Cause I'm, right now, I'm, you know, a little bit older. So like Panamera 4S I just sold. So, you know, they have to be in that under 20 junky range.
3:47 Doug DeMuro? Same with Nick, yeah.
3:48 Speaker 03 But my newest car, I think, the 2016 AMG GTS, love the thing.
3:54 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
3:54 Speaker 03 I thought those cars wouldn't hold up. And they're actually pretty solid motors.
3:58 Doug DeMuro? Great powertrain.
3:59 Speaker 04 And yours had a couple of issues or was that just the tuning and aftermarket stuff?
4:03 Speaker 03 It's the rear mainly is the big problem because they're big boosted engines. So it just pours out the back and it dropped the torque tube and all that stuff. But otherwise it like no cylinder scoring issues, none of like the big like the head bolts of the older ones. You know, that kind of stuff.
4:14 Doug DeMuro? Did it catch on fire or was that only your SLR?
4:17 Speaker 03 No, no, that's, that's the SLR. It's a terrible car. I couldn't wait to dump that thing.
4:21 Speaker 04 Minor, minor electrical fault that never actually caught on fire as far as we can tell.
4:25 Speaker 03 Now that I've sold it, I can say, back when I owned it, I said, oh, it's a minor electrical event. Like, no, this thing almost burned to the ground. I mean, it was scorched like, it was carbon damage. I mean, it was horrible.
4:35 Speaker 04 Part of the deal is we were going to title wash this. We were going to rewrite history, take a page from the Vin Wiki playbook here.
4:42 Speaker 03 That's right.
4:42 Speaker 04 We were going to go on Vin Wiki and say, this car flawless.
4:46 Doug DeMuro? Wow, boy, that's interesting. That's he's throwing Ed Bolian under the bus. You came here and called this all ugly. Now he's calling Ed Bolian a cheater.
4:53 Speaker 03 I didn't say, I mean, it's
4:54 Doug DeMuro? Me, I think everybody's great.
4:55 Speaker 03 We're all average looking men here. So when you hire someone like Ryan, that's above average. It's it's it just it sucks for all of us.
5:01 Doug DeMuro? What is all of this?
5:02 Speaker 04 We love Ryan. Back to the electric Mercedes.
5:05 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
5:05 Speaker 04 Super sedan.
5:07 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
5:07 Speaker 04 I'm really surprised they're launching this. I know EVs are the future and all that, but if you look at the the commercial success or lack thereof of the Taycan, the RS e-tron.
5:15 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
5:16 Speaker 04 Literally, I mean, even the Model S.
5:18 Speaker 03 The EQS.
5:19 Doug DeMuro? My presumption is
5:20 Speaker 04 The EQS, yeah.
5:20 Doug DeMuro? They got far enough along in development that they just had to bring it to market. I agree with you. Brad Pitt ain't gonna say that. They had Brad Pitt at the launch.
5:29 Speaker 04 Yeah, and Blink 182 played a live set. So like, that would have been pretty cool. We were invited to that.
5:34 Doug DeMuro? We were both invited. My general rule about product launches is that when I get invited, I delete the email. But this time I actually responded and said respectfully, no. It's an unusual
5:43 Speaker 04 A gentle request, just forward those emails to me. Send send your representative.
5:47 Doug DeMuro? Go to LA to hang out with Johnny Lieberman and and and and see Brad Pitt get out of a Mercedes.
5:52 Speaker 04 I haven't seen Blink 182 since 2002 live.
5:55 Doug DeMuro? You can go see him, probably. They probably toured.
5:57 Speaker 04 I'm not gonna do that, but I'll go to a Mercedes launch with Blink 182.
6:01 Doug DeMuro? No, you don't want to go to this stuff.
6:02 Speaker 03 Did they say pricing?
6:03 Doug DeMuro? Uh, expensive.
6:05 Speaker 04 Yeah, there's no official number.
6:06 Speaker 03 Because the EQS that I had was $120,000 new, and I got it three or four years old for 30? It was insane.
6:14 Doug DeMuro? They dropped real fast. Uh, I don't even think they said when it's going to come out.
6:20 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's sort of there's some pieces too that are still concept car looking in there. So it's not even clear that this is coming out.
6:26 Doug DeMuro? No, it'll definitely be out. It'll definitely be out looking sort of like this. I think this is the production one. It's got a big mouth. Uh, but that's coming. That's a big news story. Another big news story is, oh yeah, this. This is the new it's Brabus has their own vehicle now. You see this? This is the kind of thing we would like.
6:44 Speaker 03 Okay.
6:45 Doug DeMuro? It's a twin turbo V12 and it's like a long tail.
6:48 Speaker 04 Yeah, the long, the long tail is actually, it's striking from the side. So Brabus always, their, their color is black. And I feel like it sort of hides a little bit how striking this is, but they, they revealed it at Villa d'Este. Am I saying that right?
7:01 Doug DeMuro? Yes, actually, surprisingly, yes.
7:02 Speaker 04 Oh yeah, it is surprising, even to me. Um, it, it is, so Brabus is known for mostly tuning Mercedes. They do everything from G wagons to SLs, but this is actually based on the Aston Martin, including the V12 in the Aston Martin. So they must have teamed up with them, but it is truly their own vehicle and they change a lot to make it really special. Inside is like, everything's quilted and carbon fiber and, and so on. So.
7:25 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, I mean, you can see some Mercedes Benz on the outside of this car, but like the wheels, but I, I'm not sure. It must be based on some.
7:30 Speaker 04 The wheels are one off as well for them, but.
7:32 Doug DeMuro? This thing looks cool.
7:32 Speaker 03 It is very cool.
7:33 Doug DeMuro? It's a twin turbo V12.
7:34 Speaker 03 I saw in the front, a little bit of Mustang, a little bit of BMW eight series. The back is, is beautiful. But whenever these tuning companies and styling companies start making their own cars, it usually runs off all the OEMs. So like Pininfarina that used to style all the cars, like it, it costs them business, you know?
7:52 Doug DeMuro? I think it was the opposite for that.
7:53 Speaker 03 Okay.
7:53 Doug DeMuro? But Pininfarina, uh, what happened was when Pininfarina got purchased by not, was no longer a Italian family design company and was sold overseas, I think a lot of the automakers, particularly Ferrari, no longer wanted necessarily to maintain that relationship. And they were like, we got to do something and we have this brand heritage. So let's, let's make it a supercar and like try to trade on the name, which is why they named it after the founder of the company. Unfortunately, it has not been a success.
8:22 Speaker 03 Well, of course you would know.
8:23 Doug DeMuro? This is cool.
8:24 Speaker 03 Yeah, I would say.
8:25 Doug DeMuro? This is an EV BS. This is a, this is a twin turbo V12.
8:29 Speaker 04 Yeah.
8:29 Doug DeMuro? A thousand horse. This is real. Like in the, in the age of all these dumb EVs coming out, this thing, can you see yourself owning this heavily depreciated?
8:37 Speaker 03 Sure.
8:37 Doug DeMuro? Seventy-seven will be made for the whole world. Probably none coming to America.
8:40 Speaker 03 And Brabus, you know, usually with the Mercedes, they're very, you know, garish, over styled, just like tacked on things. I'm actually really impressed that they.
8:46 Doug DeMuro? I know, there's restraint. This looks good. Yes.
8:48 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
8:48 Doug DeMuro? The first good looking Brabus is one that they, is the, is they made the whole car.
8:53 Speaker 04 And it's got KW coilover system, much like your Carrera GT, so.
8:56 Doug DeMuro? Damn.
8:57 Speaker 04 Just for you.
8:58 Doug DeMuro? Oh, yeah.
8:58 Speaker 04 They did also get special tires made specifically for this that have like the Brabus logo on them, which I assume no one's gonna like that's, you're never gonna be able to get another set. So, but it's a fairly standard size.
9:10 Speaker 03 All they run for 60 grand.
9:12 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's like, haven't we learned, do never do a special tire for a car. It just kills the resale, but I think it's just an emblem on the sidewall and not like a.
9:20 Doug DeMuro? I'm looking at the drive and they call it the, it's close to a production version of the Maybach Accelero as we're ever gonna get. Yeah, kinda.
9:25 Speaker 04 They have the Accelero there next to it to like showcase, as well as a bunch of other really cool cars.
9:30 Doug DeMuro? It's only 199 inches long, so it's not like insane, like some sort of Duesenberg situation. 199 is about the length of that 612, but it's pretty cool. I'm into that.
9:39 Speaker 04 I'm glad coach building is back and I'm glad it's not EVs anymore, like that Mercedes before.
9:44 Doug DeMuro? EVs is what makes coach building possible because you don't have to, so I'm surprised to see them, but it's, this is what people want. This is what, when we all sit and think about cars, we think about.
9:53 Speaker 04 Well, and don't you think Aston is the right company to go to because they're having trouble like finding their lane with all the other luxury and supercars and so they're, they're down to play ball. Like they're just like, yeah, if I can move 77 more units, that's a huge relief to my sales team, so.
10:08 Doug DeMuro? Uh, indeed. Next news story, please.
10:11 Doug DeMuro? Uh, yes. You see this, uh, who we there?
10:14 Speaker 03 Is that a BMW?
10:15 Doug DeMuro? Okay, BMW has announced that they are going to make a lightweight rear wheel drive M3CS that is manual only.
10:24 Speaker 03 Whoa.
10:25 Doug DeMuro? Which is a big deal because in the past, the CS cars were automatic only. It was all about like track performance, the manual only, and I think limited specifically to the United States, not offered overseas.
10:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
10:34 Doug DeMuro? Now, unfortunately, the Germans, the Germans can't name stuff in German. The Ger- what happens is this.
10:40 Speaker 04 Especially this name.
10:41 Doug DeMuro? The Italians name stuff in Italian and the Italian language is incredibly beautiful. So the Italians get away with naming a car the Quattroporte. It just means four door.
10:50 Speaker 03 Yes.
10:50 Doug DeMuro? Okay, but it sounds amazing.
10:52 Speaker 03 Much like a.
10:53 Doug DeMuro? Right, that's Spanish, but we'll move on. The Germans think they can get away with this also, but they can't. So they've named this car the M3 Han Schalter, which means I guess manual shift or hand shift or I'm not going to dignify it.
11:09 Speaker 03 Okay.
11:10 Doug DeMuro? Nonetheless, this is a manual M3CS, manual only.
11:14 Speaker 04 Did you get the cherry on top is it's also a rear wheel drive?
11:17 Doug DeMuro? Rear wheel drive, which because we learned that it has to be the lesser powerful engine and rear wheel drive in order to work with their manual, 75 pounds lighter. This is the car that if you bought one of these today and put it away in 20 years, you're not going to beat the market, but it'll sell for a half.
11:33 Speaker 04 Especially in a special color, like that, that would be a collector grade BMW.
11:36 Doug DeMuro? This is a pretty cool thing. The fact that this is still happening, the fact that they're doing a manual, the fact that it's for the US, they see the demand. That's pretty interesting. And it's sort of like a goodbye to this generation of M3.
11:46 Speaker 03 And is the M2CS holding? Is it as far as like the last equivalent of this?
11:52 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, the CS cars hold reasonably well, but like a really well-preserved manual E90.
12:00 Speaker 03 Okay.
12:01 Doug DeMuro? Does as well or better.
12:02 Speaker 03 A 1M, I guess, still.
12:04 Doug DeMuro? A 1M, 1M is desirable for its own reasons, separate from that, but like, you know, like a regular E90 M3, that's like, like a comp with a stick is probably still a better situation. The, the CSs have dropped maybe a little bit more, but this one will, will hold. 108 grand, you gonna buy one?
12:20 Speaker 04 Uh, no. But you know what I was just thinking? 20 years from now, there'll be a bunch of guys here that look like Ryan Lopez with broccoli hair.
12:28 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
12:28 Speaker 04 That are gonna, this is gonna be their golden era of car and they're gonna be talking about what a great value. Like Hoovie and I don't acknowledge cars after 2010. Someone will be like, yeah, I don't acknowledge cars after like 2027. And this is their like pinnacle peak car.
12:41 Doug DeMuro? I totally agree. This will be a peak. This won't be like a great value. This will always be.
12:46 Speaker 04 There will be a Canon in the future that's obsessed with this as their E39.
12:49 Doug DeMuro? And honestly, E39 M5 upgrade.
12:51 Speaker 04 Yeah.
12:52 Doug DeMuro? A lot of things are fairly similar about it.
12:55 Speaker 04 Money aside, this are a black wing.
12:57 Doug DeMuro? For me personally?
12:58 Speaker 04 Yeah.
13:00 Doug DeMuro? I think they're about the same money. Me personally, I I prob I really love the JD. I really love the JD.
13:06 Speaker 04 So you don't like America?
13:07 Doug DeMuro? I love the Blackwing though, too. That's a tough call.
13:09 Speaker 04 Who V's going American?
13:10 Speaker 03 Blackwing and the Magrider seats.
13:13 Doug DeMuro? I love I love the JD, but I'd probably I'd probably do a Blackwing also.
13:16 Speaker 04 Line those two up, though. I mean, that's a heck of a day.
13:19 Doug DeMuro? Two are the best cars on sale.
13:20 Speaker 04 Yeah.
13:21 Doug DeMuro? Like like truly the best bar none, like not for the price, like two of the best cars on sale. They still are delivering this special experience that very few people are still.
13:30 Speaker 04 And we get BMW a really hard time for like the XM and some of their cars that are just like awful. But then they're doing stuff like this. Like, give them credit.
13:39 Doug DeMuro? When I was a kid, you know, the ultimate driving machine, you remember the 2001 BMW.
13:43 Speaker 04 That era we live in.
13:44 Doug DeMuro? That that era was so special and but there's still like a little glimmer of that. That has gone away in a lot of other automakers of the BMW isn't that anymore. They are primarily just a luxury brand, but there's still a little bit of this.
13:58 Speaker 03 They still cater to that small audience that us that exists. Yes.
14:01 Speaker 04 It feels like a skunk cork project they would do in a strip mall in Huntington Beach. You know what I mean? Like, it's like a separate company doing this than the rest of their cars?
14:08 Doug DeMuro? I will say, when I saw the details for this, I definitely considered a little bit slash I'm still considering getting one. They're pretty cool.
14:15 Speaker 04 It's a shame it's not a wagon. Then you could really.
14:18 Doug DeMuro? The problem with the wagon is I I need this. I need more seats now. I I would have bought the M3 wagon when it first didn't come to the US, but now they screwed it up. They're they're late.
14:27 Speaker 03 And we've accepted the grill at this.
14:28 Doug DeMuro? I I never had a problem with grill.
14:31 Speaker 04 Really?
14:31 Doug DeMuro? You hate the grill.
14:32 Speaker 03 I I know it looks like the 30s cars. I've just I've never been able to get around the big.
14:37 Doug DeMuro? I think that the grill is gonna be like all those other things, the Roadrunner with the big wing, all the stuff that the oh, it was stupid in its time. And then time goes on and people are like, you know.
14:46 Speaker 03 Bengal butts?
14:46 Doug DeMuro? It was kind of emblem. Well, the Bengal butts never really aged well, but the other stuff.
14:50 Speaker 03 Okay, some of them did.
14:51 Doug DeMuro? Man, I saw an abandoned, uh, way expired plates Bengal E65 yesterday, just rotting, you know, on a driveway with weeds coming up. Those cars are so bad. I'm somewhere in between. I've normalized the front grills. Won't say I like them, but I no longer hate them. Like, I'm just, I'm neutral towards them.
15:10 Speaker 03 The more aggressive that it's styled, I think the better it looks. So like in a normal, like a base, you know, three series, two series, whatever. Not them two series they have it, but you know, it just doesn't look right.
15:19 Doug DeMuro? Well, the, the base cars don't have the grill.
15:23 Speaker 03 I mean, the, you know what I mean? Where the more stuff's tacked on to it like this one, I think it looks better.
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19:10 Doug DeMuro? All right, next news story. Oh, this. This is the, have you seen this? Did you read about this, Nick, before?
19:17 Speaker 04 I sure did. It's a one-off Ferrari meant for a wealthy customer in Austin, Texas. It's about all we know of who got it, but it is based off the F8 Spider, which has been discontinued. However, it's meant to look like an F80, but with the roof cut off. So it's absolutely beautiful. I think the F80, they nailed it.
19:33 Doug DeMuro? This is so cool. Ferrari is doing these one-off cars.
19:36 Speaker 04 And it's a V8 non-hybrid. So all the new cars are have hybrid in it. This one is not messed up with electrical, which means it's going to age gracefully. It's going to be another one that the future Ryan from 20 years ago is lusting after saying this is the swan song.
19:50 Doug DeMuro? Yep.
19:50 Speaker 04 Of non-hybrid V8 Ferraris.
19:52 Doug DeMuro? So it's the F8's powertrain too? How weird. Um, so it's the old V8.
19:57 Speaker 04 Yeah, but I mean, you're getting a one-off Ferrari and it's a V8. Like I'm, and it looks like that. Sign me up.
20:03 Doug DeMuro? Um, this is, it's so cool that Ferrari is doing this, these one-off things. They, they, I bet they're 10 or 15 million dollars.
20:10 Speaker 04 Still won't put a manual in it, but you know, it's, we're getting there. We're getting warm Ferrari.
20:14 Doug DeMuro? You know, all of the modern Ferraris are hybrid now. All.
20:18 Speaker 04 Yeah.
20:19 Doug DeMuro? I wonder if this goes down as like the last non-hybrid Ferrari ever.
20:24 Speaker 04 If dude's got like a Bachmann collection of just like cool stuff like that, that will one day sell for all the money.
20:30 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
20:31 Speaker 03 You know what it reminds me of is when people were updating their Ferraris, like when you had a 348 and you want to make it look like a 355. So you cut the side strakes off and like, there's still some going down the road today. So it's the old last old school Ferrari. And from the factory, they're making it look like the modern hybrid ones, which is goofy.
20:47 Doug DeMuro? Uh, it's cool though. It's a cool idea. I can't believe they do this. Like what a cool thing. You show up with enough money at the Ferrari factory, they'll build you some.
20:54 Speaker 04 Think, think about how many BS cars he had to buy to get that allocation.
20:58 Doug DeMuro? You know what I would do?
20:59 Speaker 04 How many Romas he has in his driveway.
21:00 Doug DeMuro? You know what I would do? Puro Sangue, long tail.
21:06 Speaker 04 Hybrid only or like EV.
21:08 Doug DeMuro? EV.
21:10 Doug DeMuro? They would do it. With enough money, they would do it.
21:12 Speaker 04 Least desirable car they've ever met.
21:14 Doug DeMuro? Uh, we got any other news? Land Rover and Jeep are doing something, I hear. What else we got?
21:19 Speaker 04 JLR and Stellantis are, it's so it's an MOU memorandum memorandum of understanding and it is non-binding. So like, basically there's no formal commitment here, but they are talking about sharing their prowess because they're both such reliable, steady brands.
21:34 Doug DeMuro? Can you imagine that?
21:35 Speaker 04 To collaborate on cars.
21:35 Doug DeMuro? Land Rover goes looking to avoid tariffs. Land Rover goes looking to help to help build some cars in the States and who do they find? Chrysler.
21:43 Speaker 03 But this is like Gen Z broccoli heads where they're talking, they're not dating, they're not like...
21:47 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's like they send a Snapchat to each other.
21:50 Doug DeMuro? I think they're trying to figure out what's gonna happen with the tariffs, but this is an unbelievable thing. How does Land Rover end up finding the Land Rover equivalent in America? The only thing that can come out of this is problems.
22:01 Speaker 04 Well, maybe they'll help produce the Type 00 Jaguar that no one wants.
22:05 Speaker 03 Well, back in the new millennium, Land Rover thought they'd go to the warm, reliable arms of BMW at one of their low points in reliability. So here we go again. The four cylinders that are so bad in those Wranglers, are they gonna end up in the... Oh, oof.
22:19 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, it's an interesting thing. I mean, who knows what'll come out of it? It is, it does make sense. Land Rover is at an unusual disadvantage in today's world because unlike all of their rivals, they do not produce cars in the United States. And right up until the tariff situation happened, that was seen as a bit of an advantage. Like, Land Rovers are still British, even though they're building the Defenders in Slovakia. They don't talk about that. The VIN still starts with S. They're still British. Well, now it's become a real liability. Porsche and Land Rover have this difficulty that they've so associated with their home country, now it's a problem. So they're gonna show up and they're gonna build Land Rover Jeeps and it's gonna be another problem.
22:54 Speaker 04 That's a pretty good theory, actually, that it's a tariff workaround.
22:57 Doug DeMuro? Maybe they're gonna bring back the NAS Defender 90.
23:00 Speaker 04 I doubt it. It's called the NEOs Grenadier and it's not very successful.
23:04 Speaker 03 So, back in the day, they never made Defenders in different continents? Like, the G-Wagon got built in different places.
23:09 Doug DeMuro? They made some Defenders in South Africa for a very short time, but I think every Defender up until the Slovakian one was built in the UK. Uh, I'm pretty sure. Nick is a Land Rover man. Why doesn't he educate us a little?
23:23 Speaker 04 I don't know new ones.
23:25 Doug DeMuro? Nick's never...
23:26 Speaker 04 We're gonna talk about P38s later because I have a bone to pick and then we'll get into it then.
23:30 Doug DeMuro? Boy, these three cars are like JD Power Vehicle Dependability Study, the bottom three.
23:37 Speaker 03 Right.
23:38 Doug DeMuro? It's like literally a picture of the podium of the low three finish of VDS. Although, actually, the new Defender is the most reliable new Land Rover, and it looks good. Well, that's one take. Uh, anyway, we got more news. What else we got? The VW ID. Buzz. ID. Buzz took 26 model a year off because it they needed to clear inventory. It's back for 27.
23:57 Speaker 04 But they've got a genius fix to to to solve that sales slump.
24:01 Doug DeMuro? The genius fix is they're adding a pop top bed situation, or maybe it's not a pop top, just a bed situation.
24:07 Speaker 03 The roof doesn't come up. There's no way they would have done that.
24:08 Doug DeMuro? You know what's wild? This is the Euro van. This is your van all over again.
24:12 Speaker 04 I think they're going for that.
24:13 Doug DeMuro? They're like, oh, man, we can't compete on a regular van. Let's do a West Failure version. Let's do a camper version. This is that all over again. You must be thinking about getting an ID. Buzz.
24:24 Speaker 03 The appreciation, you sold one, I think, or has it been two now on Cars and Bits? And it was 30s for?
24:29 Doug DeMuro? Dude, have you gone on AutoTrader? There are dealers offering them for 30 off. It's new, brand new.
24:34 Speaker 03 Yeah, right. Yeah, a dealer was begging me.
24:36 Speaker 04 Although that's arguably where it should have been priced all along.
24:39 Speaker 03 Of course.
24:39 Speaker 04 Like, they they came in a little hot.
24:41 Doug DeMuro? Well, that's what happens. I mean, any new car that sells at X discount, that should have been the price.
24:45 Speaker 04 The market correct.
24:45 Doug DeMuro? That's market correct.
24:46 Speaker 04 They have not announced pricing for 27 yet. I mean, people assume it'll be roughly the same, but.
24:50 Doug DeMuro? I think it is the coolest car on the market. There has never been a greater disconnect between coolness and sales failure. Like, it it's crazy to me, but it's overpriced. It's not particularly practical. It's too big, too long. The segment, there was the wrong demo they went after.
25:06 Speaker 03 You're missing the range part.
25:08 Doug DeMuro? Range is an issue.
25:09 Speaker 03 Well, not only that, it's like the older Tesla, because I have the old Model X that's before the battery heating and all that stuff, which is the same with this. It's the same battery size, about the same range as the old Model X. And in the winter, without this heating, it is atrocious. It's 200 miles. Really, it's 100 miles in the winter. It's it's not.
25:25 Doug DeMuro? It's not a practical car. It's not a practical car. And it's not a practical car even for families. It's way too expensive to buy. They did not do all these family solutions like the Odyssey has with seats that slide and cup holders. It's lacking all these cup holders. But it's pretty cool.
25:38 Speaker 03 It's really cool.
25:39 Doug DeMuro? You want one?
25:40 Speaker 04 I, I, oh, I definitely do.
25:41 Doug DeMuro? He lives in Encinitas, the Volkswagen bus capital of the world.
25:44 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, no, I, I.
25:45 Doug DeMuro? The only place they're selling these things.
25:47 Speaker 04 But at 70, you, you, that's, that's where it's like, okay, it's a fun novelty toy that I like, maybe use periodically. It gets to be a tough sell.
25:53 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
25:54 Speaker 04 Which has always been.
25:55 Doug DeMuro? What about at 38?
25:56 Speaker 04 At 38?
25:56 Doug DeMuro? What do you jump in?
25:57 Speaker 04 38, it'd have a conversation.
25:59 Doug DeMuro? Have the conversation?
26:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
26:01 Doug DeMuro? They're, they're there.
26:02 Speaker 04 Unfortunately, the conversation is with my wife and not with the dealer.
26:04 Doug DeMuro? You don't think she'd want one? I think this is the coolest thing in the world.
26:06 Speaker 04 Maybe. I, I don't know if we're ready for an EV and like all this plugging things in, you know?
26:10 Speaker 03 Well, it's, it's Encinitas, so it'd make the trip down and back.
26:13 Speaker 04 Yeah, I don't know if we have enough range to come to, to dinner.
26:16 Doug DeMuro? Uh, all right. Next, is that it? That's the end? That's the end of our news. We got a lot to discuss today in the, in the talk. We gotta move on to the talk car segment. The talk car segment unbelievably is brought to you by the Key channel, which is Cars and Bids. Have you seen the Key videos?
26:31 Speaker 03 It's so beautiful.
26:31 Doug DeMuro? Beautiful, high quality videos, but most importantly, Zinger, you know Zinger? They have these crazy supercars. You know this?
26:39 Speaker 04 Sideways.
26:39 Doug DeMuro? It's incredible. They're incredible. They have this chassis that was designed by AI and so it looks like a human skeleton because like instead of like square things that they, because that's what manufacturing does, it's, I've never seen like it before. It is one of the coolest things I've ever seen in my life. And I don't get into these like one-off supercar things.
26:57 Speaker 03 Sounds like a 3D pin chassis that looks like, like human.
26:59 Doug DeMuro? Pull it up, pull up a picture of a Zinger.
27:01 Speaker 04 I, I'm not connected to this whole situation.
27:05 Doug DeMuro? Pull up a Zinger, Zinger chassis. This is the.
27:08 Speaker 04 Ryan's, Ryan's DJing this?
27:10 Doug DeMuro? The coolest thing I've ever seen in my entire life.
27:11 Speaker 04 Ryan, close your other tabs just in case. You know you've got tabs you shouldn't have open.
27:16 Doug DeMuro? Type in chassis, Ryan.
27:18 Speaker 03 Yes, I have, I have seen a few photos of this and it is very.
27:21 Doug DeMuro? But type in chassis so we can get a, a tight shot. So chassis.
27:26 Speaker 04 At the quail, the, one of the engineers sat down next to me and he was describing this based on AI. And I was like, this is the craziest thing I've ever heard and it sounds like a total failure, but it's real.
27:35 Doug DeMuro? Can you zoom in on, on this picture? I guess, well, it'll be, it'll be there for the audience to see.
27:39 Speaker 04 Oh, by the, oh, wow. We're gonna actually do it instead of just zoom in. That's insane.
27:44 Doug DeMuro? I never thought that was gonna happen.
27:47 Speaker 04 So it's a Miller Motor Car post.
27:49 Doug DeMuro? Just zoom in on your track pack.
27:50 Speaker 03 And it's gonna be a two, it's gonna be a 200 kilobyte photo.
27:54 Doug DeMuro? Oh my god. Anyway, you see that, you see that. It like, looks like humans. It's crazy. I really think we're gonna look back on this car as like, the end of like, right angles and stuff, when this stuff was optimized. They claim they've like, used logarithmic technology to optimize it for like, all the, the actual strength and stu- anyway, it's incre- it's the coolest thing I've seen in my entire life. Ryan Lopez got to drive one.
28:18 Speaker 03 Wow.
28:19 Doug DeMuro? Are you?
28:21 Speaker 03 I'm in. I'm, is, is it live now?
28:23 Doug DeMuro? Is it live now?
28:24 Speaker 03 Wait, pause and watch it? Okay.
28:25 Doug DeMuro? Are you a little nervous about Ryan Lopez?
28:27 Speaker 04 I, I am a little, you know, it's a lot of power for a, such a young boy.
28:32 Speaker 03 Oh no. I started this, I'm so sorry.
28:37 Doug DeMuro? Parked it outside a bikini store, oh my god. Alright, well I can't wait to see that Ryan Lopez video with a zinger. Uh, anyway, that's the sponsor of today's Talk Cars segment. Uh, but there's a lot of Talk Cars to discuss, including, the reason that Hoovie is here, I think, is because you're promoting the cars that you're auctioning on Cars and Bits.
28:53 Speaker 03 Yes.
28:54 Doug DeMuro? Can you pull up the Hoovie cars?
28:55 Speaker 03 I desperately need some money, please.
28:57 Doug DeMuro? Can we start with this ca- alright, so the, Hoovie's got four cars live right now, go bid on them, buy the cars.
29:02 Speaker 03 Three more coming.
29:03 Doug DeMuro? Three more coming. What are the, what are the next three?
29:05 Speaker 03 I don't remember. The V38 Range Rover is one of them.
29:08 Speaker 04 I know, I know.
29:09 Doug DeMuro? My Box 62, we got some sort of old car, no one knows. We got a 911 Carrera.
29:14 Speaker 03 Yes.
29:15 Doug DeMuro? Can we talk about this Cadillac?
29:16 Speaker 03 Yeah.
29:17 Doug DeMuro? Pull, pull up the Cadillac, sure.
29:19 Speaker 04 Did you watch Breaking Bad?
29:20 Doug DeMuro? I never watched Breaking Bad.
29:21 Speaker 04 So that's not gonna have any significance to you?
29:23 Doug DeMuro? No. I'm looking at this thing and I'm like, what is this dusty old-
29:26 Speaker 04 Literally, everyone else on the planet watched Breaking Bad and, and will resonate with that.
29:30 Speaker 03 It's a big deal, because this car was used in the climactic like, final battle. So he's taken out a whole, like, team, like a whole mob boss family.
29:40 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
29:40 Speaker 03 And because he mounted a machine gun in the back with a remote, and it all-
29:44 Doug DeMuro? He driving this that Bryan Cranston is driving?
29:46 Speaker 03 Yes, he drives it to, in the last episode, to the last place, where he actually is killed by this as well, like a stray bullet actually gets him. So, this car- Is the car like the as far as like if you're other than the Aztec, obviously.
30:00 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
30:00 Speaker 03 This is probably the one to have if you love Breaking Bad.
30:02 Doug DeMuro? You ever track down that Aztec?
30:04 Speaker 03 I've no, I don't know where the Aztec is.
30:05 Doug DeMuro? So this is your, this is the car, Breaking Bad car. Can we talk, since we're on Breaking Bad, can we talk about Car Wizard moving to New Mexico?
30:12 Speaker 03 Isn't that something?
30:13 Doug DeMuro? Car Wizard's moving to New Mexico, to Las Cruces. No offense to our viewers in Las Cruces, but I've been through there a few times.
30:20 Speaker 03 It is, it is heartbreaking and I thought it was going to be a little bit more of a gradual thing.
30:23 Doug DeMuro? The town of Las Cruces is heartbreaking.
30:25 Speaker 04 No, movie ladies and gentlemen has just indicated that Las Cruces, New Mexico is heartbreaking.
30:29 Speaker 03 This is an 18 year relationship, me and Wizard, starting from Mercedes diesels and being like within 30 miles of each other on a forum. Going from me having a dealership to him opening a mechanic shop to the YouTube. He is just very tired of Newton, Kansas and winters and he's worked really hard his entire life. I mean, and he's just, he's ready for a slowdown.
30:50 Doug DeMuro? He's old, he's, he's not old though.
30:52 Speaker 03 He's late 40s, but he, the dude's had a lot of city miles. I mean, he's had, he worked as a prison guard. He worked in machine shops. Mechanicing forever. I mean, it, it just, it's just harder on somebody and he's going to continue doing his shop. He's going to hire a mechanic down in Las Cruces and still make his videos, but he's just looking for a slower pace and warmer weather. And he's, he's left me in the dust.
31:14 Speaker 04 You got that Newton, Kansas is too fast paced?
31:17 Speaker 03 I've got one more month with him and then I'm taking over his shop.
31:20 Speaker 04 That's Las Cruces's new tagline. Slower pace than Newton, Kansas.
31:24 Speaker 03 I guess so.
31:25 Doug DeMuro? I am looking at the climate data here for Las Cruces and it is an upgrade from, from, from Wichita. It's hot in the summer, it looks like. But they're nice, they're nice winters.
31:33 Speaker 03 He's got a beautiful home, a mountain view and pool and.
31:37 Doug DeMuro? He's got a pool?
31:38 Speaker 03 Yes.
31:38 Doug DeMuro? Damn, can you imagine Wizard after a long day at the shop? Is he still going to do shop out there?
31:43 Speaker 03 Yes.
31:44 Doug DeMuro? He's going to make a new shop. A long day at the shop. He gets in his pool, looks at the mountains.
31:48 Speaker 04 I was just watching, he did a video on the white silver Seraph that, that Hoovie had and sold to him for store credit. Fixed it. He was able to do what I was never able to do with my own eyes. The dude is a national treasure.
31:59 Doug DeMuro? So he just decided to leave? When did he, when did he start breaking the news to you that he was going to be leaving?
32:04 Speaker 03 It's been years.
32:05 Doug DeMuro? Oh, he's been talking about it for a long time.
32:06 Speaker 03 And he's just been, every place that he would travel to, he's like, I want to live here. Every, like, every single place, and then you look at houses.
32:12 Doug DeMuro? If, if Las Cruces ended up being the place, I'm curious. What was second place? What other places did he, did he travel to there?
32:18 Speaker 03 Northern California, like Monterey area, he liked that a lot.
32:21 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
32:22 Speaker 03 Phoenix, Scottsdale was one.
32:24 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
32:24 Speaker 03 Uh, briefly, 30A area, Amelia Island, Florida, but then he's like the Florida people, you know, kind of like where you're.
32:29 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
32:29 Speaker 03 And then, you know, and then it sort of, he went to Las Cruces on a random thing and, and that was it. The next visit, they bought a house.
32:36 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
32:36 Speaker 03 And it's like, okay, the next five years, we're gonna go. And then within a year, he's like, I, I'm.
32:41 Doug DeMuro? I gotta get out, I gotta get out of Kansas.
32:43 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
32:43 Doug DeMuro? Wow.
32:44 Speaker 03 It's, it's, it's heartbreaking, but I, I mean, obviously, I've been doing the same thing for many years on my YouTube channel. As far as, you know, buy the car, take the Wizards, he tells me how dumb I am, you know, he beats me over the bill. So now, like, it's, it's gonna force a change in my content.
32:58 Doug DeMuro? Well, I, I got a couple of questions.
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35:13 Doug DeMuro? I got a couple of questions. Number one, Wizards out. We're all sitting here. I'm not trying to... We're here. You know what I'm saying? You kind of get where I'm going with this?
35:27 Speaker 03 You want me to move to San Diego?
35:28 Doug DeMuro? Well, I'm not wondering. Like, you know, what are we doing in Wichita still, right?
35:32 Speaker 03 I love Wichita.
35:33 Doug DeMuro? Oh, okay, okay. And that's great. Interstate 35 corridor, there's a lot of good stuff.
35:39 Speaker 03 Yes.
35:39 Doug DeMuro? But...
35:40 Speaker 03 Where am I gonna get five acres and a 6,000-square-foot building that's air-conditioned and all this stuff? And be in a good area, not like 30 miles out of town?
35:48 Doug DeMuro? A lot of people say, "You get a smaller plot of land, you get a smaller house, but you get to live near crazy Nick, or Cheapskate Nick, as you call him." Do you think that's a good trade-off? I think it's a good trade-off.
35:59 Speaker 03 What's your rent on this garage? Because that's about the size I would need to hold all my stuff.
36:03 Doug DeMuro? Eight, 900 a month.
36:05 Speaker 03 Eighty, ninety thousand a month, maybe?
36:07 Speaker 04 Right.
36:07 Doug DeMuro? No, Hoovie, listen, I understand that maybe San Diego isn't necessarily the place for you. But what about, um, Chula Vista?
36:16 Speaker 04 Yeah, Ramona, Ramona.
36:18 Speaker 03 Alcohoned, yeah.
36:19 Doug DeMuro? Hoovie, Hoovie, what I'm saying to you is, what I'm saying to you is, I think we all agree that the one thing keeping you in Wichita was Car Wizard. It certainly isn't April. April is a city girl.
36:29 Speaker 04 She's Chicago.
36:30 Doug DeMuro? She was from Chicago, she lived the fast life.
36:32 Speaker 04 Yeah.
36:33 Doug DeMuro? And...
36:35 Speaker 03 There's, I have, I have children in Kansas, I have my family.
36:38 Doug DeMuro? Okay, let's talk about that. How old are the children?
36:40 Speaker 03 They are thirteen and six.
36:42 Doug DeMuro? Six, okay, so ten years, young child is going to be probably off somewhere else. I can't imagine your children stay in Kansas.
36:50 Speaker 03 Okay.
36:51 Doug DeMuro? Am I wrong about that?
36:53 Speaker 03 It's possible.
36:54 Doug DeMuro? They're gonna go to college, and even then they're not gonna stay in Wichita, they're not gonna go to Wichita State.
36:57 Speaker 03 Not everybody's you, there's, think, how many people in your high school class in Colorado are still probably in Colorado?
37:02 Doug DeMuro? Well, but Colorado is like a cool place that people wanna be.
37:05 Speaker 03 Okay.
37:05 Doug DeMuro? And I, you know what I mean?
37:07 Speaker 03 I guess so, like.
37:08 Doug DeMuro? Your kids are gonna be like, ah, you know, Dad, I think I wanna move to San Diego. And then what are you gonna do?
37:14 Speaker 03 Or they're gonna be like, wow, this is the only place I can afford to live, is Kansas. Because the cost of living everywhere else is just insane.
37:20 Doug DeMuro? You know where else they could live? Las Cruces. What if they move there?
37:23 Speaker 03 I guess so. I, I'm very happy with, with Phoenix, Scottsdale, we have a lot of work there, so we got a little place.
37:28 Doug DeMuro? Is it possible that that may become more of a full-time situation?
37:32 Speaker 03 It is possible, and it was a short, five-hour drive to get here, which was, it's a very nice drive, and it's a very, uh, car-central kind of, uh, type of town. And there's a lot of nice things, a lot of nice restaurants, a lot of things to do. It gets very hot in the summer, obviously, that's, that's the downside, but...
37:48 Doug DeMuro? A lot of people in Phoenix in the summer, you know where they go?
37:52 Speaker 03 Chula Vista?
37:53 Doug DeMuro? San Diego.
37:54 Speaker 03 Okay.
37:55 Doug DeMuro? Look, all I'm saying is, we want you here. Do you, do you wanna, why don't you get on this?
37:58 Speaker 04 I, I haven't let, uh, you're doing, you're doing a great job of being pushy.
38:02 Speaker 03 It's just a matter of, of an invite, I suppose, like, I don't mind the, the Arizona thing and then driving out, like, this is really pleasant, so whatever you want, I'm fine, I don't have to be here pimping my stuff with my pimp Cadillac here to, to show up.
38:13 Doug DeMuro? Is it hot already in Scotts? It was Hades, low nineties, so not terrible.
38:18 Speaker 04 You get used to it.
38:18 Doug DeMuro? Do you agree he said Hades?
38:20 Speaker 04 Yeah.
38:21 Doug DeMuro? I understand the implication.
38:23 Speaker 03 Yes.
38:23 Doug DeMuro? Okay, so this Cadillac, this Breaking Bad Cadillac you're selling, that's pretty cool. Nick, you throwing in a bit or two?
38:28 Speaker 04 Not on this one, but there are a few Hoovie specials. So the MyBok 62, he tried to dump on me at one point.
38:34 Speaker 03 It wasn't a dump. Doug told you not to buy it or whatever?
38:37 Doug DeMuro? No, I absolutely begged him to buy it. Quite the opposite, my friend.
38:41 Speaker 04 I'm into it and actually I think the price you offered it to me for is less than it will sell on the site.
38:45 Speaker 03 We'll see what happens because currently there's what, six days to go and apparently 25 ish is that right?
38:50 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
38:51 Speaker 04 Where did you find this like country estate to shoot these photos?
38:53 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah, that's what you get for Kansas, you know.
38:56 Doug DeMuro? This looks correct.
38:57 Speaker 03 Mm hmm.
38:58 Doug DeMuro? You know?
38:58 Speaker 03 That's my driveway, my circle drive.
39:00 Doug DeMuro? This is your driveway?
39:01 Speaker 03 Indeed.
39:01 Doug DeMuro? Oh my God, let's move to Wichita. You know what? Let's stop trying to convince him to move to California. Let's move to Wichita.
39:07 Speaker 04 We could all go around his pond and then kind of have like views of each other, like a little hippie commune.
39:11 Doug DeMuro? That would be great.
39:13 Speaker 03 You could all have estates for whatever, you know, your little homes here in San Diego.
39:18 Doug DeMuro? Nick, I will let you, I will have you know that Nick has the largest floor plan in his community.
39:23 Speaker 03 Wow.
39:25 Speaker 04 Something Doug is more proud of than I am, but.
39:27 Doug DeMuro? He told this to us once.
39:30 Speaker 03 It's like 2,800 square feet, everybody.
39:33 Doug DeMuro? Do you brag at the, at the community mailbox every morning? You know, I actually, I'm 28, 46.
39:39 Speaker 04 You don't brag, you just walk a little bit more upright, you know, like it's, it's just a subconscious vibe.
39:45 Doug DeMuro? So this is a V12. Uh, why are we selling this?
39:47 Speaker 04 It's got the partition.
39:49 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, I know.
39:49 Speaker 03 That's the big deal, which yeah, we should probably put partition up in the title because that's a big value add. Also a big reason why a lot of the partition cars leave the country. So it can end up with some dictator, you know, getting driven around in, in, you know, Africa or something like that.
40:01 Doug DeMuro? So this one's always, this one's always been.
40:03 Speaker 04 It's only got like a hundred and some thousand miles.
40:04 Speaker 03 That's the downside. So I bought it.
40:06 Speaker 04 Looks like a Texas window sticker there.
40:08 Speaker 03 Yeah. So I bought it at auction in Houston.
40:10 Speaker 04 Yeah.
40:10 Speaker 03 And it was a guy who owned a chain of liquor stores and he was driven this thing to his chain of liquor stores. I don't know if he was sampling the products, so I need to be driven. That's why I had the miles, but he took it to the dealer for everything. Like it was kept up. And so this thing, like it'll sit for a month and that's the reason why I'm selling it is like. For the past year, nothing. It hasn't moved. I like April.
40:27 Speaker 04 You don't use it.
40:28 Speaker 03 April tore her ACL when we were skiing and I basically chauffeered her in that for months and that was the last time it got used because she could recline in the back and stretch her legs out.
40:36 Speaker 04 What's the reason you use it? It's too big to be practical?
40:38 Speaker 03 It's so the the partition for me at six foot three, it's hard to get comfortable in that because the the wall's right there.
40:43 Speaker 04 Yeah.
40:44 Speaker 03 So for as far as for a daily driving.
40:45 Speaker 04 Any partition car.
40:47 Speaker 03 Um, but it it's it's not bad. I I I daily drove the thing forever, took it to California and then.
40:53 Speaker 04 You gonna toss a bit in? Thing's huge.
40:55 Doug DeMuro? What's the problem with that?
40:57 Speaker 04 Well, I don't got a lot of space. I don't. Would some of us don't live in Las Cruces.
41:00 Doug DeMuro? You know what your real problem would be? Seriously, it would probably mess up your driveway. How heavy is this car?
41:05 Speaker 03 Oh, it's it's heavy, but it's.
41:07 Doug DeMuro? Is it 10,000 pounds?
41:08 Speaker 03 No, no, is it seven?
41:10 Speaker 04 It's gotta be lighter than most EVs.
41:12 Speaker 03 It it's but it's a real Maybach. That's the thing. It's it's not a rebadged something else. This is.
41:18 Speaker 04 When these cars came out, I found the styling to be so underwhelming and now I look at that and I'm just like, holy crap. Like that is just such a. It's so subtle but noticeable.
41:28 Doug DeMuro? I still find the 57s to be underwhelming. The long ones have this.
41:33 Speaker 04 The presence is insane.
41:34 Speaker 03 Yes.
41:35 Doug DeMuro? Yeah. It's almost kind of an FU also like.
41:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:38 Doug DeMuro? Like I've chosen not to be in a Phantom and have that. Instead, I've got this sort of more subtle flex.
41:44 Speaker 03 It was $450,000. That was the big problem.
41:46 Doug DeMuro? 450 in 2006 or whatever.
41:49 Speaker 03 This is a four.
41:49 Doug DeMuro? This is a $750,000 car in today's money. I mean, it's wild.
41:53 Speaker 04 It ain't got a car for that, that's for sure.
41:55 Speaker 03 And the S-Class got redesigned and they did a great job with that redesign. So you had these two sitting next to each other and it was just like the new S-Class. So cool looking. This looks like the older S-Class and it's so no- so nobody bought it.
42:07 Doug DeMuro? Basically had the wheels from the old S-Class, the same design.
42:11 Speaker 03 Yeah.
42:11 Doug DeMuro? The design was fairly similar and then the the mistake they made, of course, was that 07 S-Class. They they they kind of made it look like this, the rear end and all that.
42:19 Speaker 03 Yes.
42:20 Doug DeMuro? Except better, honestly.
42:21 Speaker 03 Yes. And then same with the electronics on the inside. The the 07 update was what this had all the older, you know.
42:27 Speaker 04 Yeah.
42:27 Speaker 03 Older pixels and like the cluster.
42:29 Speaker 04 Click on that interior.
42:30 Speaker 03 Stereo and all that stuff.
42:32 Doug DeMuro? Been in one of these?
42:33 Speaker 04 No.
42:33 Doug DeMuro? There's wood. There's like the the steering wheel buttons are wood.
42:36 Speaker 03 Rippled wood.
42:38 Doug DeMuro? Steering wheel buttons are wood.
42:41 Doug DeMuro? It's insane.
42:42 Speaker 04 It's funny because they're like, if you're 10 feet away, it still looks like an S-Class.
42:45 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
42:45 Speaker 04 Other than the closer you get, the more changes you notice.
42:48 Doug DeMuro? Yep.
42:48 Speaker 04 Look at the Alcantara on the side of the seat. Why?
42:52 Speaker 03 There are some big money 62, if it's an S partition, it can be a quarter million dollar car.
42:57 Doug DeMuro? Really?
42:58 Speaker 03 They, if they're low mileage, there's been some 10,000 mile cars that have sold for that much. So it, this one obviously being 107,000 miles, it's not going to be, I'd love it to be a six-figure car, but it's, it's not going to be, that's, that's the thing. If you want to use it, but the partition thing, so if it's going to end up with a African warlord or something like that, it'll be fun, but you know, that's where a lot of them end up going.
43:18 Doug DeMuro? You think it might shift?
43:18 Speaker 03 It might.
43:19 Doug DeMuro? Uh, go back to the rest of the Hoovie cars. We got this Packard, uh, we don't need to get into that. And then-
43:24 Speaker 03 What's wrong with the Packard? I know you don't like the older stuff as much.
43:26 Speaker 04 A Packard, the Packard was the other one with the electrical incident?
43:29 Speaker 03 It's original paint.
43:30 Doug DeMuro? This is an old, very old car. This car's 100 years old.
43:32 Speaker 03 Okay. It's original paint.
43:34 Doug DeMuro? You driving this thing around?
43:35 Speaker 03 I've driven it a little bit, but it's, it's had, it's had a thermal incident similar to the SLS McLaren. I had to fix the wiring, so it had a, a small thermal incident, so it got rewired.
43:45 Doug DeMuro? But why you got a 997?
43:47 Speaker 03 So the 997, unfortunately I got scammed on this one pretty bad. So I, full disclosure, this, this thing has a clean Carfax.
43:53 Doug DeMuro? Is that a Massachusetts license plate?
43:56 Speaker 03 Uh, yes, it came from Massachusetts.
43:57 Doug DeMuro? Okay. It never titled it.
43:58 Speaker 03 I got an email from a fan, well, I've got a dealer's license because it would be crazy. I, so a Boston Whaler dealer emailed me and said, hey, I got this 997 on trade. I put 200 miles on it, changed the oil, it seems good. You want it? Uh, well, he sent me some pictures, says the paint's fading, but the engine seems fine. I said, sure, okay, I buy it for about 25,000, shipped to my door. I started it up, it is billowing smoke at the back. Cylinder scored, you know, it's 30 grand.
44:22 Doug DeMuro? Did you call the guy?
44:23 Speaker 03 No, I didn't even, I don't even mess with that.
44:25 Speaker 04 He just left a few passive aggressive comments on YouTube.
44:27 Doug DeMuro? But I know, I don't-
44:28 Speaker 04 As you do.
44:28 Speaker 03 I know, I mean, because it's truly, if he's a boat dealer, he may not know. But I mean, every single light was on, the suspension's messed up, the brakes are-
44:36 Doug DeMuro? Oh, he got traded it on a boat. I see.
44:38 Speaker 03 Correct.
44:38 Speaker 04 Imagine doing that, be like, will you take a beat 997 on a Whaler?
44:41 Doug DeMuro? People trade boats on cars. I'm sure this happened in Kansas.
44:43 Speaker 03 Right.
44:44 Doug DeMuro? People trade boats and RVs on cars all day. I mean, not constantly, but it, it, in certain parts of the country, in Minnesota, you expect to get ATVs offered, all that stuff.
44:53 Speaker 03 So the car wizard estimate to fix this car, $56,000. And that's before cosmetics, because this thing needs a repaint and the bumper's hanging off and all that stuff.
45:00 Doug DeMuro? 56 and a new motor.
45:02 Speaker 03 A rebuilt motor is about thirty grand on these things.
45:04 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
45:04 Speaker 03 So, I, you know, I'm gonna lose, I'm sure, thousands on it, but the thing is.
45:10 Doug DeMuro? You're selling it as a project?
45:11 Speaker 04 Did you fix it?
45:11 Speaker 03 No, no, that's the thing. This is, this is, because it's a no-hit car. It can be somebody's track beater. They can do the LS swap thing. They can, there's all K swaps, there's all these things. But they could, they could make, because it's not a hit car, it could be a really good track car. Or if somebody wants to be the first person to restore a 997, you know, tinkering in their garage. And Porsche people are so nuts. Like, I've seen, their cylinder scored 997s, there's one recently, an 084S on a different auction site. And it sold for forty-four thousand with cylinder scoring, meaning a thirty grand engine rebuild. Like, that's how crazy Porsche people are.
45:41 Doug DeMuro? Wait a minute, did you say there are K swaps?
45:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
45:44 Doug DeMuro? People are doing that?
45:45 Speaker 04 In these?
45:46 Speaker 03 Yes. And, and, and the Audi, another one is like the Audi 2.7 Turbo.
45:50 Doug DeMuro? Really? Wow, that's even worse!
45:52 Speaker 04 Yeah. Good luck with that. Water pump goes out.
45:56 Doug DeMuro? So what's it at right now? What do you expect this to go to?
45:58 Speaker 03 It's at fifteen.
45:59 Doug DeMuro? I mean, it can't be much higher than that.
46:01 Speaker 03 Probably not. I, probably not. So I'm gonna lose, I imagine, yeah, over five grand on this thing. And, yeah, it, it just, it sucks. Because I haven't bought a 911 in a long time. And, so, it is what it is. I made sure, I went through the video, and I made sure I got everything, because it's probably the longest list of disclosures. It's probably the worst 997 you guys have ever had on your site.
46:18 Doug DeMuro? Probably.
46:19 Speaker 03 But it's, it, obviously it's disclosed that way. There's a market for it.
46:22 Doug DeMuro? In the industry, we say, there's a...
46:25 Speaker 03 Butt for every seat?
46:25 Doug DeMuro? There's a butt for every seat. Someone will want it for the exact purposes that you described.
46:31 Speaker 04 Um, I, I did, off camera, Filippo offered to buy your wheels off you from that, if, if you don't want it.
46:37 Speaker 03 They're chewed to heck.
46:38 Speaker 04 He'll trade for some gunmetal ones.
46:39 Doug DeMuro? These are, these are dot one wheels.
46:41 Speaker 04 Yeah, I know, but they would look better.
46:42 Doug DeMuro? They would look better than what he's got now.
46:44 Speaker 04 Yeah.
46:45 Doug DeMuro? Um, uh, can I, can we talk about why there was a fire sale? You know, every year around this time, we, uh...
46:52 Speaker 04 Why is it around this time?
46:53 Doug DeMuro? We get all excited.
46:54 Speaker 03 And it was usually before April.
46:55 Doug DeMuro? We get all excited.
46:56 Speaker 04 Mid-April?
46:57 Doug DeMuro? Because, usually, Hoovie gets into a situation where he can't pay his taxes and he's gotta sell a bunch of cars. And, you know, he says that, I make fun of him for it, but I was thinking about it today when I was shooting that RX7.
47:10 Doug DeMuro? Really? It's just an alternate savings account.
47:14 Speaker 03 Yes.
47:14 Doug DeMuro? Like, what do I do when it's tax time? I take some money on my savings account and pay the IRS. What does he do? He sells some cars, pay the IRS. It's the same basic principle.
47:23 Speaker 03 And the vehicles are a vessel for content that make money.
47:27 Doug DeMuro? So, when you say I make fun of you, I don't think it's... I just think it's kind of interesting that, you know, we're not... As the year goes on, we're not kind of budgeting. But in a way, you are.
47:37 Speaker 03 I... It is... Normally, it wasn't an issue. And I would pay my quarterly lease. It was just home renovation got out of control before. And that smoked me. And then I made a mistake on my taxes with the Veyron, where I structured it as a lease. So when I traded the Countach towards it, I thought I could roll in all that money onto the Veyron. Because it's a lease, I could only write off a quarter of that trade in a year. So even though I sold the Countach for a bunch of money, hundreds of thousands of dollars, I had to pay the capital gains on it, even though I got no money. It's a complicated tax thing. But so that was like the surprise extra $150,000 for the gains, because I was zero into the Countach. Because I bought it with the Diablo, sold the Diablo.
48:16 Doug DeMuro? Right.
48:16 Speaker 03 So like, so it was... That was like a, oh crap. The year before that, it was home. The last year, it was the mistake with the taxes. So this year, I had it all figured out.
48:25 Doug DeMuro? Can I stop you real quick? Go back before you get into this. You are... You're taking capital gains on these cars?
48:31 Speaker 03 Yes.
48:31 Doug DeMuro? You're declaring that? Come on. You?
48:34 Speaker 03 Yes.
48:35 Doug DeMuro? Freddie is not declaring capital gains on cars.
48:37 Speaker 03 Well, I imagine most people aren't, but I'm...
48:39 Doug DeMuro? Am I wrong? No comment. I incriminate myself enough.
48:43 Speaker 03 No. On that, where I sell a car for whatever it was, close to half a million bucks. And I had zero into it, because I was like... You think that you would let that go and risk it?
48:56 Doug DeMuro? Me, no.
48:57 Speaker 03 Okay.
48:58 Doug DeMuro? You, I'm truly astonished. What's the IRS looking at state registration records?
49:03 Speaker 04 Do you know what they do if they catch you for tax evasion in Kansas? They ship you to La Cruzes, New Mexico.
49:08 Doug DeMuro? Are you implying the Car Wizard is a tax evader?
49:11 Speaker 03 Nice thing, I can't spend 90 days in a white collar prison like that, it's not worth it.
49:15 Speaker 04 Look at that face.
49:16 Speaker 03 No.
49:16 Speaker 04 Although now that you're not as handsome as you used to be, maybe it'd be okay.
49:19 Speaker 03 That is true, I'm aging badly now.
49:21 Speaker 04 Ryan Lopez in prison, oh that would be a problem.
49:23 Speaker 03 Yeah, that would be terrible.
49:24 Doug DeMuro? Um, okay, so anyway, so because of that, so you, but this year, so those were tough tax years, this year...
49:30 Speaker 03 This year, I, I mean, it cleaned me out, but I made it. I did not need to do the April, you know, dump everything, but I, I'm, I was good.
49:39 Doug DeMuro? Which upset us here at Cars and Bids for two reasons. Number one, we rely on a steady stream of no reserved cars from Hoovie to pay our bills in April.
49:49 Speaker 03 Yes, except I didn't do it last year, and then the guy, you know, flipped that Eldo rod, which you gave me hell for, you know, so I sold an Eldo rod for 15 grand, and then the guy sold it for, flipped it for 50 something thousand dollars, so, so, yes.
49:59 Doug DeMuro? I honestly and truly believe that if that dude, the Geneva Motor Cars guy, had sold it with us and I did a video, he would have gotten even more. I think he probably would have gotten 67.
50:06 Speaker 03 Well, it's possible.
50:07 Doug DeMuro? I would have handed it up in that video, because that was, to me, those things are so cool, concept car. Anyway, so, we didn't get the, the tax time this year, but we are getting it anyway.
50:17 Speaker 03 You're getting it anyway, because, yeah, I get all my responsibility ducks in a row, and then blow the gullwing motor on the way to a car show.
50:24 Doug DeMuro? So, look, I want to talk about the gullwing motor blowing. Um, and, and I want to address something that has, has been brought up in comments. You seem to be a little reticent to bring it up in the videos, and I want to talk about the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center.
50:38 Speaker 03 Okay.
50:38 Speaker 04 I knew that's where it was going.
50:39 Doug DeMuro? So Mercedes-Benz, our favorite auto brand.
50:42 Speaker 03 Yes.
50:43 Speaker 04 Agreed.
50:44 Doug DeMuro? Oh wow, you're gonna go to...
50:45 Speaker 04 I'm on the wagon.
50:46 Speaker 03 He's got the hand swap wagon, it's awesome.
50:48 Doug DeMuro? Um, and the, and the fire damage SLR, yeah, yeah.
50:51 Speaker 03 Scorched.
50:51 Doug DeMuro? Mercedes-Benz...
50:52 Speaker 04 Blown fuse.
50:54 Doug DeMuro? Unlike a lot of other automakers, such as Audi, which is Nick's favorite brand, Audi doesn't have any parts for their old cars, it's impossible to get anything done.
51:02 Speaker 03 Correct.
51:03 Doug DeMuro? Uh, Mercedes-Benz has this Classic Center where you bring them a car and they will fix literally anything, except for the two years where they did the, um, radar keys, which I have in my G-Wagon. And, um...
51:17 Doug DeMuro? You took in there, but they're especially known for their gull wings.
51:20 Speaker 03 Correct.
51:21 Doug DeMuro? Restorations. Like, people bring, like, they're in Long Beach and there are Long Beach locals who will, like, bring them an S-Class to do, like, regular work, because the Classic Center stamp on the receipt is really a big deal. But they mostly do gull wings. I went in there, there were like 12 gull wings.
51:34 Speaker 03 Right. So I, they opened up this in the United States in 2006 or '07. It was in Irvine at first.
51:40 Doug DeMuro? It was Irvine.
51:40 Speaker 03 Right by my, my grandparents lived in Costa Mesa, so I'd just go in there and drool.
51:43 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
51:44 Speaker 03 Oh, my God. So they moved to Long Beach to the old kind of airport area, and it's at a big warehouse where Mercedes has their cars coming in. And it's, it's an amazing facility.
51:53 Doug DeMuro? Amazing facility.
51:54 Speaker 03 It's beautiful.
51:54 Doug DeMuro? Incredible facility.
51:56 Speaker 03 Yes.
51:56 Doug DeMuro? Beautiful facility with beautiful cars.
51:58 Speaker 03 Right.
51:59 Doug DeMuro? It is interesting to me, though. You're looking at me like, what's he gonna say?
52:04 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
52:05 Doug DeMuro? You're not thinking this? This isn't in your mind? How much did you drop at the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center on this vehicle? Well, a year ago? Six months ago?
52:11 Speaker 03 They were very kind to me and offered a discount in exchange for the content, but it was, it was close to not quite six figures.
52:20 Doug DeMuro? You spent six figures on that car?
52:22 Speaker 03 Not quite.
52:23 Doug DeMuro? When you bought it?
52:23 Speaker 03 Well, no, I've spent, well...
52:25 Speaker 04 Seven on the...
52:26 Doug DeMuro? And that was, when, when we had that 993 300SL meet on the highway randomly, I was, I just bought the 993, so it was October, I think.
52:35 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
52:35 Doug DeMuro? So that's, if I'm doing my maths, seven months, you spent a hundred grand, and now the engine's blown.
52:40 Speaker 03 Right.
52:41 Doug DeMuro? I'm just laying out the facts.
52:42 Speaker 03 They...
52:42 Doug DeMuro? I'm like Joe Rogan. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just asking questions, man.
52:46 Speaker 03 So, when they woke up the engine after its 10-year slumber, the, the compression was a little borderline. The oil consumption was somewhat high. It is an older engine. They're like, hey, let's drive it, see if it comes back a little bit, because it's been sitting for a while.
53:00 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
53:01 Speaker 03 But it was always like a, meh, you might get a few more years out of this thing. So...
53:05 Doug DeMuro? Oh, really? So this, this was known?
53:06 Speaker 03 The fuel system needed to be completely, like, you have a car, any old car, the Mercedes fuel system on these things is direct injection. It is very complicated and weird, and that all needed to be fixed and brought back to life.
53:16 Doug DeMuro? And they do that stuff. That is what they are good at.
53:18 Speaker 03 The drums, the brakes, 30 grand. They were out of spec. So that, that was the thing that was nice for them to give me the drums. And then I go and burn up the drums that I had... Just replaced on a rally because I left the handbrake on for like thirty miles.
53:30 Doug DeMuro? You remember that?
53:30 Speaker 04 Yep.
53:31 Doug DeMuro? I think about that all the time.
53:32 Speaker 03 So I had to.
53:33 Speaker 04 I've done it too, thankfully never on a car of that value.
53:36 Speaker 03 I had to spend for the two drums, so I had to buy that. That was on me. So, you know, and there was, there was a lot of things that needed to be done. Also, the rear main was pouring out and the transmission needed to come out to be resealed. They had not done that yet. But I mean, there was just, just think of a car that's, that's, it was restored probably in the eighties, but then sat for a decade. So it just needed to like do everything.
53:57 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
53:57 Speaker 03 And I don't think it was unreasonable, given their facilities and everything else. And they, and they actually took care of me. So, no, this wasn't their fault.
54:04 Doug DeMuro? Interesting. That's interesting color, and I appreciate hearing that. That actually redeems them in my mind. Except I noticed the car is not back at the Classic Center. So now the engine has blown. We need a new bottom end or top end or both, God knows.
54:19 Speaker 03 Right.
54:20 Doug DeMuro? But you didn't take it back there. How come?
54:21 Speaker 03 Because they do not do the machining and the actual rebuilding there. They will take the engine out, they will take it apart, they will, you know, put it back in and tune it and do all that stuff. But they don't, so they used to send it to, I think, an outfit called Metric Motors. Very well-known Mercedes rebuilder. They don't do the Gullwing's engines anymore. The current outfit, I think, is called Ed Pink, and they build the Singer engines. They are in California. I guess they are the best of the best. It makes sense why Mercedes sent it to them. But they are probably the most expensive engine building machine shop in the country. And this is an older car from the fifties. As principle, rebuilding the engine is not difficult. So I could tell them Classic, hey, take the engine out for me, send it to a cheaper machine shop.
55:01 Speaker 03 No, it's better to have one shop handle it. And this is where our friend at DC Motor Works.
55:07 Doug DeMuro? DC Motor Works has a machine shop and they'll do this stuff?
55:09 Speaker 03 So he's very close to his machinist and they're gonna, so they'll send it off to the machinist, but then they'll build it themselves. They have one tech that has experience with Gullwings. And it just, in this, in this instance, I think it makes sense to do it this way because it's not Classic Center. They would help me out, but they, they're outsourcing the rebuild to a different shop.
55:26 Doug DeMuro? Should we be thinking of DC Motor Works as an alternative Classic Center? And let me, let me rephrase. DC Motor Works rebuilding Gullwing motors, putting manuals in E55s? Are they better than the Classic Center?
55:39 Speaker 04 Well, I think the facts you laid out earlier would maybe make it seem that you pay up for the Classic Center and you may still have issues. I mean, it's old car stuff.
55:47 Doug DeMuro? If you took your E55 wagon to the Classic Center and put a manual, they'd say, no, no.
55:51 Speaker 04 I don't think they would do that.
55:52 Doug DeMuro? We don't do that. We don't do manuals. You take a DC Motorworks, put a manual, oh yeah, let's pull a manual out of a C200.
55:58 Speaker 04 Those guys, they will do anything you ask. I said I want a third row. They literally went on Facebook Marketplace that night, bought a car, took it in, swapped it out, and then sold the donor car. Like, they did all of that for you as a service.
56:11 Speaker 03 But DC is getting...
56:12 Speaker 04 Classic Center ain't going on Facebook Marketplace for you.
56:14 Speaker 03 Actually, they did. Funny story, so when they were talking about Made in America, all that stuff we were talking about earlier, they wanted to show that Mercedes builds cars in America. And they were gonna do a big thing about the anniversary of the ML. So Mercedes goes to US Classic and said, we need to find an ML, a nice one.
56:34 Speaker 04 Facebook Marketplace is the right place for that.
56:36 Speaker 03 So they actually went on Marketplace in California and found an ML to buy, to ship to, you know, to Alabama for the big press releases. Like, yeah, we've been building in America forever, you know, the political climate currently. So they actually have done that a little bit.
56:49 Speaker 04 That's amazing.
56:50 Speaker 03 And DC Motorworks is getting the parts from the Classic Center. All the stuff, the piston rings, all the things. It is coming from there. They're making the parts.
56:58 Doug DeMuro? And this is the coolest thing about Mercedes-Benz. And one of the big reasons why I still am a big fan of owning old ones, all these parts are available. You can get them.
57:06 Speaker 04 And that Mercedes is willing to sell the parts to others. So like, Matt Armstrong and this whole Veyron, as well as Sharon rebuilds, Bugatti won't even sell you the parts if you wanted to install it yourself. So that Mercedes is like, yeah, Indy shop in Atlanta, no problem. Here you go. Thank you for your business, which is how they should be doing it.
57:22 Doug DeMuro? Totally.
57:23 Speaker 04 Obviously.
57:23 Doug DeMuro? That's really cool. Love that Mercedes-Benz models and Porsches are still supported that way. And honestly, our Fred the Countach?
57:30 Speaker 03 Yes.
57:31 Doug DeMuro? You miss yours?
57:32 Speaker 03 No. I had my fun, Doug. You talked about this in your video, how you wouldn't keep things forever. I had it for four plus years. I did everything I wanted to do.
57:40 Doug DeMuro? For four plus years?
57:41 Speaker 03 Yeah.
57:41 Doug DeMuro? Damn.
57:42 Speaker 04 Not the fanboy. I love the new content direction you have where you've gotten back to your roots of Hoopies.
57:48 Speaker 03 Out of necessity.
57:49 Speaker 04 You don't really own, other than the Gullwing, any supercars at the moment. Is that fair?
57:53 Speaker 03 AMG GTS, borderline, and the Lotus Esprit V8, when that thing's going.
57:57 Speaker 04 But both of those were Hoopies as you bought them, or at least rough around the edges. They weren't like a Countach.
58:02 Speaker 03 I think the Esprit V8 will scratch the itch of the Countach very closely and be slightly more comfortable.
58:08 Doug DeMuro? I think that car is a very good bargain Countach replacement kind of thing. The design, like I think so many things about that car are so cool. And the V8, the turbo one's really a lot of fun, the late cars.
58:21 Speaker 04 And this is yellow. It's the roadster version with no roof. Like it's the one we want.
58:25 Speaker 03 Well, it's permanent. I found a roof for it, but yes.
58:27 Doug DeMuro? Do you, what are you gonna do after Wizard goes?
58:30 Speaker 03 So, this isn't quite announced yet, but it looks like we're gonna be taking over his shop.
58:35 Doug DeMuro? You are?
58:36 Speaker 03 His mechanics are staying in place.
58:37 Doug DeMuro? Wow.
58:38 Speaker 03 I might be making a go of some kind of dealership again to offset, to make sure the mechanic shop is busy and hopefully pay the rent. To where this might actually be an enterprise that isn't like a multiple six-figure.
58:50 Speaker 04 Hoovie's Garage is gonna become an actual garage? Like I could send my P38 there and you would do an oil change?
58:54 Speaker 03 Yup, yup.
58:56 Speaker 04 Would you go to Facebook Marketplace for me?
58:57 Speaker 03 This is, we are in the idea phase and it's fleshed out and actually there's a business plan that somewhat makes sense, so it's very likely.
59:04 Doug DeMuro? What do you mean you're thinking about doing a dealership again? You can't sell cars.
59:09 Speaker 03 Well, I can't.
59:10 Speaker 04 You're selling four right now, seven.
59:11 Speaker 03 Look what I can do. I can, I can put them on Cars and Bids.
59:14 Doug DeMuro? Hoovie, you're busy.
59:16 Speaker 03 Well, I have.
59:17 Speaker 04 He's already got dealer places.
59:18 Speaker 03 You have Kenon that reps cars for people all the time, so like there, like there, we'll have a couple of people in there that could rep the cars. I can pop in for things.
59:26 Doug DeMuro? Don't you think you're gonna get a ton of internet time wasters just?
59:28 Speaker 03 Of course, but then, so does the Car Wizard. Car Wizard has over a million subscribers at this point. He has a Google your phone, call up at any time kind of business phone line. He has somebody that answers the phone. That is his full-time job to basically, like, I wanna talk to the Car Wizard. And Car Wizard used to say fifteen minutes to talk on the phone, talk about your car problems for like fifty bucks. And he quit doing it because it was just like, it was just too much, you know, so. And people actually got mad like wait I have to pay fifty dollars to the car wizard because especially a lot of older people they don't understand that like They think that they're watching YouTube and then there's like some entitlement they like they they they they're owed like conversations and time and hang out things.
1:00:05 Doug DeMuro? It is unbelievable when older people come up to me on the street. They just think that like yeah like they're like they're the only ones who are watching me.
1:00:14 Speaker 03 Right.
1:00:15 Doug DeMuro? Like young people are very respectful of my time whenever old people think that they could and it's like you know this is like kind of like TV. And I don't mind and I talk to him but it is surprising it's always the older people like they really have there's this thinking that like they're the only ones and that I'm just a guy.
1:00:31 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:00:32 Doug DeMuro? Who's like who's like probably not many people I he probably oh I can't believe he got recognized it's like you know actually.
1:00:38 Speaker 03 And Kansas people it's a lot more casual too and so the boomers will think it's okay to just pull up my driveway during family dinner and say I want to sell this car where you think I should do it all that stuff and I don't mind it.
1:00:46 Doug DeMuro? What is that about that's so insane.
1:00:49 Speaker 03 It's just and in Kansas you know it's a little bit more of that you know neighbors just kind of knock on the door kind of thing so the the culture is kind of especially of that age and it it doesn't bother me but obviously from a time suck standpoint.
1:00:59 Doug DeMuro? Yeah that's the real problem.
1:01:00 Speaker 03 I have to like I would have to figure out like where someone would just have that business phone to answer and like no Tyler's not here you know it's just that that it could work and also It's in Newton and there's a lot of farm stuff out there like just going to the auctions and buying these farm trucks that people can use. It seems like there's a need there for me having a hoopla which is what something I did ten years ago.
1:01:22 Doug DeMuro? Right.
1:01:23 Speaker 03 So it also will scratch the itch for me a little bit of like this I gotta buy a car kind of junky thing like I get to go to the dealer auctions again and hunt hoopeties which I very much enjoy.
1:01:32 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
1:01:32 Speaker 03 So it might make sense.
1:01:34 Doug DeMuro? Wow.
1:01:35 Speaker 04 I would take my car to Hoovie's garage for service.
1:01:37 Doug DeMuro? That's you will not do that it's very far away.
1:01:40 Speaker 04 Well I mean if I were local ish if I was Kansas.
1:01:43 Speaker 03 Wizard you know he's getting a little arthritic and like he has this guy Daniel's son that would stick around and he's doing the bulk of the work on the cars anyway the car wizard has been very good now it'd be like You know diagnosing and figuring things out but as far as like like turning the wrenches less and less of that these days and it just just from age it's just it just happens you know.
1:02:05 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, but he's still gonna have a shop though.
1:02:08 Speaker 04 This is big news. This should have been the first slide in the car.
1:02:10 Doug DeMuro? This is all massive stuff.
1:02:12 Speaker 04 We got the scoop.
1:02:12 Doug DeMuro? I'm looking all this up. So he's up in Newton.
1:02:14 Speaker 04 Correct.
1:02:15 Doug DeMuro? That's, that's pretty, it's like an hour. I didn't realize.
1:02:16 Speaker 03 That's thirty minutes from me.
1:02:17 Doug DeMuro? I didn't realize it was so far away. Do you ever get people, does he ever get people come up from northern Oklahoma? You ever get Ponca City people?
1:02:23 Speaker 03 Not, not so much, but so the, and the funny thing is the way that he.
1:02:27 Doug DeMuro? Still water.
1:02:28 Speaker 03 He's had people in his garage. So he has, you know, he has a kind of an aircraft hangar style door on one side and then a big garage. And when he opens it up during the summer, cause in my videos, I just drive in and people think that that's normal. So then they'll come through, drive in to the middle of the shop, get out and go, weezer, fix my car. And he's like, what the heck are you doing? Like this is, like this is how it works. And that there's been times where like families have gone on a road trip and drive through like it's an attraction. And just drive through, wave, drive out and go. So like, so it's a very odd thing.
1:03:02 Doug DeMuro? It does, some of the disrespect surprises me sometimes.
1:03:05 Speaker 03 But it's, it's not, it's not intentional. It's just like, they think that that's how the, it actually works for his business where people can like.
1:03:11 Doug DeMuro? But he's running a business, like he's working.
1:03:13 Speaker 03 Like, like, you know, there's like.
1:03:15 Doug DeMuro? Calling up and tying up the phone lines and stuff. I mean, that must be really difficult for him sometimes.
1:03:20 Speaker 03 Well, that's why he hired a full-time office guy.
1:03:23 Doug DeMuro? But even to do, to have to hire a full-time office guy.
1:03:26 Speaker 03 It's pretty normal for a McCray shop to have a receptionist.
1:03:29 Doug DeMuro? But that guy's probably on the phone all day with, with randos from calling in from Canada to Florida.
1:03:34 Speaker 03 And he's got a list and he'll just, and he knows at this point where like, I've had this car sitting for thirty years. I want the wizard to get it running. And the wizard's just like, no, I'm not doing like the, the, these people that want miracles. And also sometimes people will just ship cars to him. They show up and like these three shops couldn't figure it out. And it's like a Range Rover with a timing chain that's come off and it's, you know, just ruined. It's like, this is, it's a, it's a $500 Range Rover. It's gonna be 20 grand to fix. And like it just, it gets just left out there.
1:04:01 Doug DeMuro? How often do you get people emailing you randomly?
1:04:04 Speaker 03 All the time. That's the thing.
1:04:05 Doug DeMuro? Pay you the car.
1:04:06 Speaker 03 Like the 997, that's how I bought it.
1:04:07 Doug DeMuro? 997, like how?
1:04:08 Speaker 03 The Packard, that's how I bought it. Yeah.
1:04:10 Doug DeMuro? Is it, is it just a constant? And so you kind of like pick and tree?
1:04:13 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:04:14 Doug DeMuro? He doesn't even have to go on Marketplace. He gets Marketplace delivered to her personally.
1:04:17 Speaker 04 Cars that can't be sold on Facebook Marketplace because they're too bad, like a blown motor.
1:04:23 Speaker 03 The Escalade that I drove here with this triumphant horse I met two days ago, this Escalade is incredible. There's a dealer buddy that knew I am crazy for these things and just bought it.
1:04:33 Doug DeMuro? How, how, how long you spend each year in Scottsdale?
1:04:36 Speaker 03 Uh, well, I guess be about a week for every six weeks. I guess it'd be about, yeah.
1:04:42 Doug DeMuro? So you spend sixty of your time there, twenty percent of your time, fifteen, twenty percent of your time?
1:04:46 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:04:46 Doug DeMuro? Away from all your cars?
1:04:48 Speaker 03 Away from, I have two cars, I have a two-car garage.
1:04:50 Doug DeMuro? Let me guess, Audi RS E-tron GT?
1:04:53 Speaker 03 No, '05 Escalade and a Fiat 500 Abarth, 2013, sixteen thousand dollars.
1:04:58 Doug DeMuro? Who's two-car solution is an '05 Escalade. When forced to pare it down to two.
1:05:03 Speaker 04 The neighbors have no idea that he's in the cars based on the garage. The garage is open and like, eh, traffic.
1:05:08 Doug DeMuro? The '05 Escalade, everybody in the Phoenix area has got an '05 Escalade.
1:05:11 Speaker 03 Well, it's, it's, the garage is very small, so the Escalade just barely fits. And then you have to have the garbage cans inside. So it's like, what's something with a backseat that's fun?
1:05:19 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
1:05:19 Speaker 03 And, and would fit in there. And that's pretty much it.
1:05:22 Doug DeMuro? You have to have the garbage cans as an H.O.A. can.
1:05:24 Speaker 03 Correct.
1:05:25 Doug DeMuro? Not like Kansas, we can do whatever we want.
1:05:27 Speaker 03 Exactly, yes.
1:05:27 Speaker 04 I do think it's a great idea and you could take, like Fast and Loud had like a public shop that you could go visit. They had like a merch store open, you could get pictures with the cars. So if you're going to sell cars anyways and you're getting foot traffic of people that are uninvited.
1:05:40 Doug DeMuro? Idea, turn it into an attraction.
1:05:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:05:43 Doug DeMuro? Up there in, uh, where was it? Newton?
1:05:45 Speaker 03 Newton, Kansas.
1:05:46 Doug DeMuro? Where are you, Cedwick?
1:05:47 Speaker 03 It is Butler in Andover.
1:05:49 Doug DeMuro? I, I don't see those on the map. I'm going to assume it's Valley Center. So you're in Valley Center.
1:05:53 Speaker 03 It's east of Wichita.
1:05:54 Doug DeMuro? It's east, it's east. Oh, I didn't realize you were out there. Oh, wow. So you got like a drive to get to the, to the Wizard there.
1:06:00 Speaker 03 It's thirty minutes.
1:06:00 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, but it's like a drive.
1:06:02 Speaker 04 The cars don't always make it. If you watch his YouTube channel, it's kind of part of the fun.
1:06:05 Doug DeMuro? What is this freeway here that, that goes up in the northeast section of Wichita there? Up that, between thirty-five and one thirty-five. What's that all called?
1:06:11 Speaker 03 There's K ninety-six, the loop around there, two thirty-five, there's.
1:06:15 Doug DeMuro? It doesn't, for some reason it doesn't say. Right off where, where Greenwich Road. You ever, you ever driving on that Greenwich Road right there and you stop at the, um?
1:06:21 Speaker 03 We call it Greenwich in Kansas, so we're not too close to it. Yes. Everybody says Greenwich.
1:06:27 Doug DeMuro? Alright, so you're up off Greenwich Road. You ever go to the Texas Roadhouse up there?
1:06:31 Speaker 03 All the time.
1:06:32 Doug DeMuro? Really?
1:06:32 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:06:33 Doug DeMuro? Damn, that's great.
1:06:34 Speaker 03 The rolls?
1:06:35 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's, how lovely is that? If I, you, you ever, uh, you ever go off of, uh, let's see, what else? You ever go to the Carrabba's there off of North Rock Road?
1:06:43 Speaker 03 No, no.
1:06:46 Speaker 04 Oh, you mean the Italian restaurant.
1:06:48 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, there's also a Fazoli's there. I don't know what you prefer. It's near the airport.
1:06:52 Speaker 03 I got food poisoning from that Fazoli's.
1:06:53 Doug DeMuro? I remember Fazoli's.
1:06:55 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:06:56 Doug DeMuro? God, you, you, but, so you go to the Fazoli's, then you go to the Sam's Club. This is great. There's good stuff up there.
1:07:00 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
1:07:01 Doug DeMuro? Uh, uh, this is thrilling.
1:07:03 Speaker 03 People really don't care about the United States.
1:07:04 Doug DeMuro? No, Kansas, let me tell you something. Our Wichita contingent, which is significant, they're gonna be watching this and they're gonna say, yes, I go to that Fazoli's. I love, I, I work at that Fazoli's. They're gonna say, this is incredible.
1:07:17 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:07:18 Doug DeMuro? Right here in Cedric County.
1:07:20 Speaker 04 I wanna make sure there's time for listener questions.
1:07:22 Doug DeMuro? Oh, we got a ton of listener questions for Hooby.
1:07:24 Speaker 04 I think we gotta talk to the other three cars you're selling, so Blackwood, right?
1:07:27 Speaker 03 Lincoln Blackwood, which-
1:07:28 Speaker 04 Which we, we want, right? Should we split it?
1:07:30 Doug DeMuro? It's, it's probably rough as hell. It's his car.
1:07:32 Speaker 04 No, it definitely is. It had a head gasket blown.
1:07:34 Speaker 03 No, I just did the head gaskets on it, so that was the one thing with it.
1:07:36 Doug DeMuro? Does the tailgate work?
1:07:38 Speaker 03 Tailgate works. It was a Ca- it's a California truck.
1:07:40 Doug DeMuro? Look me in the face and tell me the tailgate works.
1:07:41 Speaker 04 Navigation.
1:07:42 Speaker 03 Works perfectly. The navigation has a few dead pixels in it, but it does the, the softer, softer, louder, louder.
1:07:47 Speaker 04 Yeah, navigation, you want.
1:07:48 Doug DeMuro? I know, I know.
1:07:49 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
1:07:49 Doug DeMuro? You ever see the nav? It's, it's a, this ridiculous screen and four buttons.
1:07:52 Speaker 04 By the cup holders down on the center console. Yep.
1:07:55 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, yeah, it was just a thing you tacked in and had nothing to do with the center.
1:07:58 Speaker 04 You take your eyes completely off the road by you.
1:08:00 Doug DeMuro? It had four buttons. There's no like keypad, like, you, every, presumably you have to like scroll over, tap. Um, okay.
1:08:07 Speaker 03 And the Lincoln Town Car, which we bought on Cars and Bids, so now it's being cut back loose.
1:08:11 Doug DeMuro? April's car.
1:08:11 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:08:11 Doug DeMuro? What's April Daly on?
1:08:12 Speaker 03 April Daly's right now the Model X a lot of the time, but she is definitely, she has her Grand National, the GNX, and then the El Camino Grand National thing. Yeah, she rocks those a lot. These are 129 as well, that 90SL.
1:08:24 Doug DeMuro? She's, but she's driving daily in a Model X?
1:08:27 Speaker 03 Model X? She likes electric. She doesn't like going to the gas station.
1:08:31 Doug DeMuro? You don't have a gas pump out there on your farm?
1:08:33 Speaker 03 No, no, it'd be a good idea, especially with all these older cars and the ethanol not liking it.
1:08:38 Doug DeMuro? Nick's dad's on a farm, he's got his own gas pump.
1:08:39 Speaker 04 He does, actually.
1:08:40 Doug DeMuro? What's that about? Come on.
1:08:42 Speaker 03 It's common, I need to do that, for sure.
1:08:43 Doug DeMuro? Is that on your list?
1:08:44 Speaker 03 It is definitely on the list where I can get some 93 no ethanol for some of these older cars that would run a lot better. Like the Gullwing, for example, does not like the ethanol when it gets heated up because it sits right on the block, the injection pump. And if it gets a little hot and vapor locky, then it just gets weird, so.
1:09:00 Doug DeMuro? When are you going to repair the oil that you spilled on my garage, on my driveway, from the Gullwing?
1:09:08 Speaker 03 Sorry. Sorry. Did you have some kitty litter? I can take care of it tonight.
1:09:13 Doug DeMuro? Really?
1:09:13 Speaker 03 Yes. I'll go buy some kitty litter.
1:09:15 Doug DeMuro? I gotta get a video of Hoovie dropping kitty litter.
1:09:19 Speaker 04 I've actually found that, like, Dawn Dishup does just as well as kitty litter.
1:09:22 Doug DeMuro? You know what? I actually, truly, legitimately, I like the oil spots because they make me think of Hoovie. I'm not even screwing with you. My kids are out there drawing chalk and I see there's only a few and I'm like, "Hoovie was here."
1:09:32 Speaker 03 The reason...
1:09:32 Doug DeMuro? That came from a Gullwing!
1:09:33 Speaker 03 I had to drive it in anger to keep up with you and it was pouring out of that rear main. Yes.
1:09:39 Speaker 04 Gullwing oil is a flex.
1:09:40 Doug DeMuro? Okay, so you're selling a Lincoln Blackwood. You're interested in this?
1:09:44 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah. When he bought it in Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale, I went home empty-handed. I wanted to buy it off of him then and thankfully I didn't because it had a blown head gasket.
1:09:51 Speaker 03 That's the big fatal flaw with that engine. And somebody for 10 years just kept pouring stop leak in it, taking it apart.
1:09:57 Doug DeMuro? That's that 4.6 liter, that was a good motor. Or 5.4 liter? It was that V8?
1:10:03 Speaker 03 It's a 5.4, but it's the 32 valve. It's the better performance, but there is the head gasket thing that was an issue early. And it's, I mean, it's not, it was three grand to do. It's not insane to do, but somebody just didn't do it forever and just kept pouring it. And it just, you know, the stop leak basically goes through and it coats the spot where it's going. And how much buildup through this engine, it was unbelievable, like how long somebody was rocking it that way.
1:10:27 Doug DeMuro? And then they took it to Barrett-Jackson, of all places.
1:10:29 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:10:30 Doug DeMuro? What else you sell?
1:10:31 Speaker 03 That 91, the Town Car.
1:10:33 Doug DeMuro? Right, the Town Car, right, right.
1:10:34 Speaker 03 And then the P38 Range Rover.
1:10:36 Speaker 04 I know.
1:10:37 Doug DeMuro? You've been on the Town Car?
1:10:38 Speaker 04 He is selling the P38 because he'd rather drive a Jeep.
1:10:41 Speaker 03 The Wagoneer.
1:10:42 Doug DeMuro? Can you, come on. Anybody who's spent any time around a P38 doesn't want anything to do with it. That's why they're all abandoned in those back of Land Rover trucks.
1:10:51 Speaker 04 Don't you feel kind of the same way about a Jeep Wagoneer?
1:10:53 Doug DeMuro? What Wagoneer, 91?
1:10:54 Speaker 03 It's an 89 Wagoneer, and it's...
1:10:56 Doug DeMuro? I would rather have an 89 Wagoneer to a level that is impossible for me to describe using English words than a P38 Ranger.
1:11:04 Speaker 04 P38 has the chrome Mondial wheels. It is... It's beautiful.
1:11:08 Speaker 03 But you park the two next to each other as far as like an old-school, heavy, clunky off-roader type thing. And you just, you get in the Wagoneer. That's what it's been ever since it showed up.
1:11:16 Speaker 04 One is for British royalty and one is for people who have cousins that are also their sisters.
1:11:20 Doug DeMuro? No, dude, an 89 Wagoneer? Are you out of your mind?
1:11:24 Speaker 03 They're all over Dan Tuckett and everything.
1:11:26 Doug DeMuro? You're crazy!
1:11:27 Speaker 04 Yeah, they're like 100K resto mods.
1:11:29 Doug DeMuro? No, no, regular ones!
1:11:31 Speaker 04 Make farm tractors look well equipped.
1:11:33 Speaker 03 You have not experienced it, because it does actually have a nice ride.
1:11:37 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, there is. You want like a pillowy soft... The 89, that generational Wagoneer, which was the last carbureted car ever to exist in the regular form in America, it just is the last, to me, the last bastion of driving a 50's car. It is a, it is a overstuffed seat. It is an incredibly floaty ride. You look out over a giant hood with a hood ornament. It feels like the old, like the doctor is driving his family to the mountains for a ski trip. And he's gonna yell at the mom.
1:12:07 Speaker 03 And decent utility. It has low range. I mean, it's not anything like today, but decent utility, so.
1:12:14 Speaker 04 I'll give you a point on the hood ornament, but if your battery dies, does the car beep at you and say "Windows not set"? I mean, there's a lot of features in the P38 you're missing.
1:12:23 Doug DeMuro? It is surprising that you haven't pursued a Grand Wagoneer. That car...
1:12:26 Speaker 04 They're too much money. They're pieces of turds for like 40K plus.
1:12:30 Speaker 03 So the first one I ever bought, it was like my 24th birthday, and it was 4,500 bucks with 80,000 miles on it.
1:12:36 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'd pay that.
1:12:36 Speaker 03 It would be a $100,000 car today. I flipped it on eBay for like 8 and thought I was the smartest guy on the planet. And now it's a $100,000 car. So this one, it's really nice. It just paints a little faded.
1:12:47 Doug DeMuro? What color?
1:12:48 Speaker 03 It's blue.
1:12:48 Doug DeMuro? Spinnaker blue.
1:12:49 Speaker 03 So I'll go through, and it's not the lighter blue, it's the dark blue. It's the dark blue. So I'll go through, repaint, redo the wood, and then it's probably like a 50, 60,000 dollar rig that I got for 20's.
1:13:00 Speaker 04 So, are we gonna have me swap it?
1:13:01 Speaker 03 No, the 360's fine, it's good as...
1:13:04 Speaker 04 Maybe an SRT?
1:13:06 Doug DeMuro? I've considered, remember they had, there was that one that was...
1:13:08 Speaker 04 Dennis Collins had one.
1:13:09 Doug DeMuro? I legit considered it.
1:13:10 Speaker 04 That went over six figures, though.
1:13:12 Doug DeMuro? No, they were selling it on their website. We don't know what it was like for you.
1:13:15 Speaker 04 I wanna say we saw a price somewhere it was like 80 to 100.
1:13:18 Doug DeMuro? Someone later tried to flip it or something.
1:13:20 Speaker 04 But that'd be cool.
1:13:21 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, that would be cool. Dude, I'm all for that. Sell a P38, keep a Wagoneer. I agree with you. If I was walking up to those two cars sitting there, I would pick the Jeep.
1:13:31 Speaker 03 Because they scratched the same inch. That's the thing. And the moment I got the Wagoneer home, it just, the P38 never moved again.
1:13:37 Doug DeMuro? Yes.
1:13:37 Speaker 04 You missed out on a seminal automotive experience. That's okay. We'll let it slide.
1:13:43 Doug DeMuro? We've talked auction cars, we've talked going. I want to move on. We're not going to get to the market report. I'm so sorry. We're not going to get to anything else. I want to move on to the questions, because there's questions in here for Hoovy.
1:13:53 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:13:54 Doug DeMuro? The questions are brought to you by Hoovy's Garage, which now is going to be an actual garage. You heard it here first.
1:14:00 Speaker 03 Maybe. Hey, I'm trying to save the announcement for my channel.
1:14:02 Doug DeMuro? We made the announcement on our channel. We need the money. Okay, Hoovy, we did a post. You can ask questions if you want. You go to carsandbids.com, you click on the community tab. There's questions. There's a questions thing. It's great. Hoovy, we made a post a couple of days ago, because we remembered you were coming. And we said, oh, my God, we got to do Hoovy questions. So people have run in with a bunch of Hoovy questions, and I got a bunch of them, and they're great. First question.
1:14:28 Speaker 03 Hopefully not about my personal life.
1:14:30 Doug DeMuro? Some of them are.
1:14:31 Speaker 03 Great.
1:14:33 Doug DeMuro? First question from Kartism is the Bestism. Hoovy, is Doug a maniac, or does he just seem like one on camera?
1:14:39 Speaker 03 No, you're not a maniac at all. You're very rational. It's just you're very unfiltered, which even before all of your success and all of these things, even when you were a struggling rider and all that stuff, you still had this kind of bluntness to you that most people don't have. And I think it's probably gotten a little worse.
1:15:00 Doug DeMuro? What do you mean worse? I think it's the best thing I have. I'm the only person who's doing new car content who actually will tell the truth.
1:15:06 Speaker 03 That is true. That is true.
1:15:08 Doug DeMuro? No offense to anybody out there who I believe in. Let me ask you this question. Do you think Nick is a maniac?
1:15:13 Speaker 03 Yes, totally.
1:15:15 Speaker 04 Hold on. No, I want to jump into the original question. You are absolutely a maniac. If I ever go missing, and they look through my text messages, the number of times you threaten death, beheading, physical harm, other kinds of harm, I will be like 10 minutes late to something, and the text strings that I get for you will be seven in a row.
1:15:32 Doug DeMuro? Don't be late.
1:15:32 Speaker 04 Mate.
1:15:33 Doug DeMuro? Often.
1:15:33 Speaker 04 I'm a busy man.
1:15:35 Doug DeMuro? Oftentimes, I will send those texts because I am hoping that you will show up because there are people that are at the thing that we are going to together that I do not want to be with. And I need Nick there. Okay, Ryan Lopez too. He's my emotional support Ryan Lopez.
1:15:53 Speaker 04 The human shield. I love that role. As well as your de facto backdoor DMer where people will be like, hey, do this for Doug. I'm like, I'm not, I'm not his boy.
1:16:02 Doug DeMuro? Definitely did not ever want anybody to do that.
1:16:04 Speaker 04 I think you, the ultimate irony is you love to introduce people as they're crazy or they're insane.
1:16:10 Doug DeMuro? But you think I'm insane?
1:16:11 Speaker 04 It's you.
1:16:11 Doug DeMuro? I would argue that in order to do this profession, you got a little insane.
1:16:16 Speaker 04 You got to be entertaining.
1:16:17 Doug DeMuro? None of us, I think I'm the least insane personally.
1:16:21 Speaker 04 Well, that is.
1:16:22 Doug DeMuro? But, but none of us, that's maybe debatable, but none of us are normal.
1:16:27 Speaker 03 You're just fortunate that all of the choices that you made were right.
1:16:32 Doug DeMuro? You think that was luck?
1:16:33 Speaker 03 And that helped.
1:16:34 Doug DeMuro? You think that was luck?
1:16:36 Speaker 03 Obviously, some of this is luck, where we are today. You've even said this in videos before.
1:16:40 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
1:16:40 Speaker 03 But if, if there were a few mistakes in there that might have humbled you some, maybe it would have been better for your personality. I don't, I don't know.
1:16:48 Doug DeMuro? I think that, um, I think that in order to do this job, there's, there's a little bit of insanity that goes on just even to try it, you know, and to get to this level and to just continue doing and entertaining people and dealing with all the stuff, the, the stuff that comes.
1:17:04 Speaker 03 But he never threatened me. Like, so I'm kind of like Doug's original sidekick, I would say, because as far as the autotrader days and all that stuff.
1:17:10 Doug DeMuro? I would never would threaten who.
1:17:11 Speaker 04 You also threatened to sell humans for like minor things, like a chocolate chip cookie.
1:17:16 Doug DeMuro? What did I say? I would sell, on this pod, I said I would sell a loophole for something.
1:17:19 Speaker 04 It was probably like a toothpick because you had something stuck in your teeth.
1:17:23 Speaker 03 There was never any abuse. I don't remember any of this. So that, now you have a whole posse and like I mentioned that you guys like to go swimming together and all this stuff. You know, and it's kind of cultish, you know, so like it's, it's, it's interesting.
1:17:37 Doug DeMuro? On this subject, the next question is.
1:17:39 Speaker 03 But no, you're not, you're not a maniac at all.
1:17:40 Speaker 04 You're getting in the pool this night, right?
1:17:41 Doug DeMuro? Daniel Gregory writes, hi Hoovie, if you could steal one member of Doug's team to work for you, who would it be?
1:17:47 Speaker 03 Brian.
1:17:50 Doug DeMuro? I don't believe I'm still getting blamed for all this and he's over here, he's been saying Ryan Lopez things.
1:17:56 Speaker 03 I love Kenan. Kenan.
1:17:58 Doug DeMuro? You would Kenan.
1:17:59 Speaker 03 He would be, it would just be like, well, Filippo would be great too.
1:18:05 Doug DeMuro? You get too mid.
1:18:05 Speaker 03 Kenan or Filippo?
1:18:06 Speaker 04 Is it because he's got better hair than me?
1:18:08 Speaker 03 No, I just, I feel like they would get more done to help me than you.
1:18:12 Speaker 04 Oh, for sure. No, I circulated the meme the other day that was like, some people hire a mechanic because their car's broken. I hire a mechanic because I tried to fix it myself and now it's worse. We are not the same. That is me.
1:18:24 Doug DeMuro? Kenan is a, he's got the Midwestern, the same Midwestern kind of vibes that you could have.
1:18:31 Speaker 03 Yes. It would be very chill, pleasant, happy. Nobody would be threatening each other. Nobody would say things that we need to be cut out of.
1:18:38 Doug DeMuro? Do you think you might want to poach one of the team members here to go and work for your new venture?
1:18:43 Speaker 03 Are we making cuts? Is that the next announcement? Thirty percent, they're like, it was this Tesla again. We're cutting thirty percent of our staff right now. We're competition right now. Here's Sean. Obviously, you're on thin ice.
1:18:54 Doug DeMuro? There's five people sitting here. Make me an offer.
1:18:59 Speaker 04 Ryan's been loudly eating lunch for the last hour and a half. I think he's got bandwidth.
1:19:04 Doug DeMuro? Uh, okay.
1:19:06 Speaker 04 Dropping forks.
1:19:07 Doug DeMuro? Kenan or Filippo because he's, he's hyper productive and you think you could get a lot out of him?
1:19:11 Speaker 03 I could.
1:19:11 Doug DeMuro? I'll tell you this problem with Filippo, he's expensive.
1:19:14 Speaker 03 Ooh.
1:19:15 Doug DeMuro? He's expensive.
1:19:16 Speaker 03 But the cost of living is lower in Kansas.
1:19:18 Doug DeMuro? It wouldn't matter to him. He's become accustomed to a certain lifestyle.
1:19:22 Speaker 03 I see.
1:19:22 Doug DeMuro? Filippo flies private.
1:19:25 Doug DeMuro? Next question, next question, next question, next. Oh, here's a good one from Cadillac Caleb.
1:19:31 Speaker 03 Cadillac Caleb?
1:19:32 Doug DeMuro? This is a good question.
1:19:33 Speaker 03 Is this your, is this your synonym?
1:19:35 Doug DeMuro? It's only slightly a personal question.
1:19:37 Speaker 03 Okay, this is your synonym then.
1:19:40 Doug DeMuro? Dear Tyler, you really lucked out in finding a car girl like April. And so I was wondering what advice you have to young, single guys who are into cars and looking for a girl with similar interests. How do I find a girl that is as into cars as I am? Thank you in advance for your answer, even thank you.
1:19:55 Speaker 03 I'm very fortunate in the fact that I met April, you know, working at a car event. So it's very unusual nowadays, what is it, more than half now? Meet people online, as far, which I can't imagine, meeting a girl online, but I'm a little older. So I see examples of it in some of the younger TikTokers and Gen Z'ers that are at events and they're going to these car events, unlike what Doug doesn't do anymore, but he doesn't need to meet women. And there are girls there.
1:20:21 Doug DeMuro? Not a usual place I would try to meet women.
1:20:22 Speaker 04 Worst place ever to meet a one.
1:20:24 Speaker 03 There are girls there and you just, you just have to go up and talk to them. This isn't something that you have to, like, sliding into DMs and texts and all that stuff. It is not the way that young people do it these days, but if you just go up and talk to them, you're way, you're way ahead than having to like, let's talk for a month on Instagram DMs before we actually like interact, like, go up and talk to them at the places where you want to meet them.
1:20:52 Doug DeMuro? You got any advice there?
1:20:53 Speaker 04 I think we need a key video where Ryan picks up women at car shows.
1:20:57 Doug DeMuro? Car events.
1:20:58 Speaker 04 Teach us this as tricks.
1:20:59 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
1:21:00 Speaker 04 Uh, Maya, it's been cut in the past, so I don't know if this will make it or not.
1:21:04 Doug DeMuro? Oh, boy.
1:21:36 Doug DeMuro? The level of which this is getting cut is actually hard to even begin to explain. Okay.
1:21:42 Speaker 04 But there's some lovely ones too.
1:21:44 Doug DeMuro? Okay, cut it too, but there's some lovely ones too and we'll move on. Okay, since what Nick just said can't be put on air, let's move on to another question.
1:21:52 Speaker 03 My advice was good, do you agree?
1:21:53 Doug DeMuro? If your advice is actually good, I agree with you. There are women at those events. And coming up and talking to people, I think there is a little bit of a stigma now. Back in our day, you could do it. Now there's a stigma about if you do that, you're creepy. And I think people are worried about feeling that way.
1:22:09 Speaker 03 You just don't go up and you're hot. Like it's like you need to talk about their car. You talk about whatever, like and you just see if there's, if there's some conversation flowing. I obviously take some social skills that are definitely being lost on that generation.
1:22:21 Doug DeMuro? Oh wow, we're doing a next, we're doing a...
1:22:23 Speaker 03 But I mean, it is sort of...
1:22:24 Speaker 04 It's gonna get Scott Gollay on us.
1:22:25 Speaker 03 No, I mean, like I don't text very well. So like as far as that kind of stuff, I suck at it. So maybe conversationally, I'm a little better in person.
1:22:32 Doug DeMuro? Scheduling, he refused to text Sean. He won't deal with the little people. He would only text me.
1:22:35 Speaker 04 Just emojis. Yeah, I got one more piece of advice for finding cargos.
1:22:40 Doug DeMuro? I can't wait to hear it, Nick, given the last piece of advice.
1:22:42 Speaker 04 Go to Johnny Lieberman's Instagram page and check out all the ones he follows.
1:22:48 Speaker 04 A lot of good looking women that are presumably in the cars.
1:22:51 Doug DeMuro? Oh my God. All right. Moving on. Next question.
1:22:55 Speaker 04 I assume that's why he follows them.
1:22:56 Doug DeMuro? Next question. This is a good one. From Leot. Dear Hoovie, if you were going to move to another country to escape your crippling debt,
1:23:07 Speaker 04 For Beta A+.
1:23:08 Doug DeMuro? What country would you move to? I don't need to have the debt part in there. But I do have a, I am curious. If you weren't living in America, and I think of you as a very American person, where would you, where would you go? A lot of the cars you love are not, would it be Canada? You can still get Escalades and stuff.
1:23:22 Speaker 03 No, it's too cold in Canada.
1:23:24 Doug DeMuro? Where would you go?
1:23:25 Speaker 03 Why would I go? I mean...
1:23:26 Doug DeMuro? You've traveled.
1:23:27 Speaker 03 Italy is somewhere I love going back to every time.
1:23:30 Doug DeMuro? You like Italy?
1:23:30 Speaker 03 I think the, I think the car culture's there and it's, and there's, there's some isolated spots that, you know, you could still live reasonably and I'd be okay with that.
1:23:40 Doug DeMuro? You'd go to Italy.
1:23:40 Speaker 03 I'd go to Italy or, or you know, south of France. Monaco's too expensive. I'd live in Monaco. It'd be fun, you know, but, but I couldn't afford that.
1:23:48 Doug DeMuro? You don't think you would go to somewhere that speaks English? You don't think you'd go to Australia? What about the Middle East? They do, they do crazy car stuff there.
1:23:53 Speaker 03 I suppose. England, the weather, I wouldn't do it.
1:23:55 Doug DeMuro? Don't do the weather there. What about Australia?
1:23:58 Speaker 03 Australia'd be okay, I guess. I've only been to Australia once, but it's been a long time.
1:24:02 Doug DeMuro? Interesting. We didn't expect him to say the south of France. It's Mr. Hoopdy over here.
1:24:08 Speaker 03 He's matured.
1:24:08 Doug DeMuro? He's matured. Uh, okay, next question. Oh, this is a good one for you. It's for me, it's directed to me, but this is for you. Cause you're gonna answer it better than I can. J H L six four six four writes, Dear Doug, there's a pretty clean delta on cars and bids right now. It's got a, it's got a reserve. I know you won't bid on cars with a reserve. But why not announce reserve met the moment it happens and really crank up the excitement? Uh, at the moment, everyone knows a car is selling. It seems like the fun would really blow up. Why don't you announce reserve met? Who be, explain why we don't do that?
1:24:40 Speaker 03 Because that means, oh, this is what the seller thought he was going to get, so I need to stop bidding.
1:24:45 Doug DeMuro? Yes.
1:24:45 Speaker 03 That's, that, no.
1:24:46 Doug DeMuro? When you announce reserve met on a online auction, um, you're basically saying, hey, hey buyers, you're paying too much. The seller only thought he was gonna get this much. Now you're paying way more than that. When you announce it at Barrett Jackson, it's, it's, it's a room.
1:25:02 Speaker 03 All no reserve.
1:25:03 Doug DeMuro? Or, okay, fine, the other.
1:25:05 Speaker 03 The collector car auctions where they say the reserve's off.
1:25:07 Doug DeMuro? In the room, it has a different effect. It can really energize, electrify. These people are drinking. These people are all getting egged on by their buddies. It's a different situation.
1:25:15 Speaker 04 Well, and that the auctions go so fast, you get this like urgency to it. Like, I gotta get in there because like auction's over in like a thirty seconds.
1:25:23 Doug DeMuro? I could lose this.
1:25:24 Speaker 03 Correct.
1:25:24 Doug DeMuro? I could lose this car.
1:25:25 Speaker 04 You got a split second to make the decision.
1:25:27 Doug DeMuro? On the online auctions, anybody who announces reserve is off is, if their seller is making a mistake. As a buyer, I love it. Uh, I bought a car one time where they did that and instantly bidding stopped, just like it always does. Um, and that's, and you, I assume, you're selling all your cars, no reserve.
1:25:40 Speaker 03 No reserve, always from the beginning. You were terrified with the Phantom in the, in the very first one back in twenty twenty, or like.
1:25:46 Doug DeMuro? You ever hear from that guy?
1:25:47 Speaker 03 No, no, I don't, I don't think, he doesn't have it anymore.
1:25:50 Doug DeMuro? I'm sure.
1:25:50 Speaker 03 Like, we did so many car deals after that, cause it's sort of the Jean Claude Van Damme.
1:25:54 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
1:25:54 Speaker 03 I got that from him, the Bentley.
1:25:56 Doug DeMuro? You owe me.
1:25:58 Speaker 03 Oh, I know, it's amazing.
1:25:59 Doug DeMuro? I hope you up with this guy, you owe me. I need a cut of all that.
1:26:02 Speaker 03 He's, he's awesome. And, uh.
1:26:04 Doug DeMuro? You still in touch with him?
1:26:05 Speaker 03 Every once in a while, yes, he'll, we'll still text. But it's crazy, cause like, he's in South Carolina and he has like a four car garage, but thirty cars and it's like ten of them are Rolls Royces and Bentleys that are outside. It's so, like, and it's like, like Phantom drop head that sits outside kind of stuff. It's just crazy.
1:26:20 Doug DeMuro? I remember he was in South Carolina. Uh, next question from ShotgunSam911. Dear Tyler, when are you moving to San Diego? What is keeping you in Kansas? I have the same question ShotgunSam.
1:26:29 Speaker 03 Children and family.
1:26:30 Doug DeMuro? Next question, uh, dear, dear Tyler.
1:26:33 Speaker 03 Cost of living too, because San Diego's too expensive with taxes. Yeah, taxes are a real problem for me.
1:26:37 Doug DeMuro? What is, is Kansas's state income tax?
1:26:40 Speaker 03 Is, uh, mine is effective rates like around five and a half or something like that.
1:26:44 Doug DeMuro? It's not that much different. I mean, it's different, but it's not, it's not insane. Uh, MEO424 writes, Dear Tyler, would you ever consider getting a Pagoda SL? Or is it too similar to the 300 SL and to your R107?
1:26:57 Speaker 03 That's the thing is sort of the in-between. It has elements of both that I like. And it's just never been an opportunity for me to get one, uh, because they're, they rust so easily. So it's, it's getting one that is a hoop-dee but not rusted.
1:27:09 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
1:27:09 Speaker 03 It's just the opportunities never present itself, not opposed to it.
1:27:12 Doug DeMuro? They're cool though.
1:27:12 Speaker 03 They're very cool. I wouldn't, yeah, manual, um, they, they had manual 230s. I don't think they did manual 280s, but, but I would, yeah, no problem.
1:27:21 Doug DeMuro? You ever think about a Pagoda?
1:27:22 Speaker 04 They're cool. I think they look beautiful.
1:27:24 Doug DeMuro? You're a Mercedes Benz man?
1:27:25 Speaker 04 Yeah, maybe, maybe one day.
1:27:26 Speaker 03 They have this bad rear axle system that's a little, you know, like this semi solid swing arm thing. That's a little like, same with the 190ESLs. That makes it like not as fun to like car around a corner or what.
1:27:37 Doug DeMuro? It's a cruising car.
1:27:38 Speaker 03 Yes. The 107, because it, it, it can, it could, like if we went up the hills with you guys, like in your cars, like I, I could have some fun. And that car would be a little, little scary.
1:27:48 Doug DeMuro? Um, dear Hoovie, what is your guess on the percentage of your collection that gets driven on a monthly basis?
1:27:55 Speaker 03 I try every two months, make sure every car gets, gets a good drive. And it's, and so I try, you can see the lifts kind of rotate. But now recently I've been buying cars that, that I just put on the lift and not move. So like my Jurassic Park Jeep may come down once every six months. The Fast and Furious Prius, it's not like I'm jonesing to get that thing down and drive it. You know, there's one car track car that's all chopped up and ruined. It's at the very top, it's never gonna move.
1:28:17 Doug DeMuro? You still have that Fast and Furious Prius?
1:28:18 Speaker 03 I bought it back just recently, just a few months ago.
1:28:22 Doug DeMuro? Why?
1:28:22 Speaker 03 It popped up for some, it showed up at a wholesale dealer. Like this guy just dumped it and they knew, it was like, do you want it back? Well, yeah, it's just to park it as part of like my history, like, you know, it's just.
1:28:34 Doug DeMuro? The, um, we pretty often will sell cars. I don't know if you ever noticed that. I don't know how often you go on Cars and Bids, but pretty often we sell. You probably have noticed, we sell cars that previously owned. You know, you've had so many cars that they come across not infrequently. You know, a guy you sold it to or the five owners later or something like that.
1:28:51 Speaker 03 And sometimes I discover late because I think that Rolls Royce that was just sold, came up and sold for around 10 grand on Cars and Bids, which is amazing because like, I bought it for 10 grand, spent five on it. Wizard bought it, you know, in-store credit for, by then spent thousands on it. And then the next, I mean, it's just, it's just.
1:29:07 Doug DeMuro? That's how they go.
1:29:08 Speaker 03 Everybody, everybody has a year, they get 10 grand for it, they spend on the repairs. Like it just keeps going.
1:29:14 Doug DeMuro? That's so true. Uh, okay, last question, last question, last question, last question. This is going to be an important one from Poor Financial Decisions. Dear Hoop.
1:29:22 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:29:23 Doug DeMuro? Of all the cars you've ever owned, which brand has consistently left you the most disappointed?
1:29:29 Speaker 03 Oh.
1:29:32 Speaker 03 Is it BMWs, a lot of the modern BMWs that get me and Maseratis, there's been some rough ones too. Where I feel like, yeah, it's probably the two.
1:29:41 Doug DeMuro? Wow, BMW and Maserati.
1:29:43 Speaker 03 BMW.
1:29:44 Doug DeMuro? What BMW, how come?
1:29:45 Speaker 03 Because I'll buy the worst examples of things and there's just so many gotchas where it just, it's just smoked me over the years.
1:29:53 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
1:29:53 Speaker 03 Um, the, the, um, Alpina B7, B7 series that unfortunately, you know, like the, the supercharger was bad and the valve seals were bad. And then the X6M that I had to bury because somebody had blown the motor and swapped it over. So I get caught in BMWs a lot and the Maseratis is just, for obvious reasons, because I buy the worst ones of them and then usually get smoked. And it's, they can, they can be fine if they're nice, but obviously I'm looking for the cheapest bottom of the barrel and that's the ones where it's usually so far mechanically total is just unfixable.
1:30:24 Doug DeMuro? How is your, um, YouTube views these days?
1:30:27 Speaker 03 I'm hanging in there.
1:30:28 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, you're making good, uh.
1:30:31 Speaker 03 I'm doing fine. I've definitely, as far as the rapid growth around COVID that everybody experienced, that was, you know, that was fun. And I'm happy where I'm at, the plateau where I'm at. The thing is where you guys are doing more brand deals and things, that's the cool thing, I think, that where YouTube is getting a lot more mainstream, where big brands are coming on to advertise with YouTubers that you'd normally have seen on TV and all that stuff. So as far as, that's where this new thing is coming, where now I have pretty much every video sponsored by, now I have TireRack, I have, you know, many regular sponsors every month. And it's so it's, it's nice to be-
1:31:04 Doug DeMuro? Are you making more off that than?
1:31:06 Speaker 03 It has, it has passed-
1:31:07 Doug DeMuro? Ruth and AdSense, really?
1:31:09 Speaker 03 It has passed AdSense dramatically at this point.
1:31:10 Doug DeMuro? You're doing brand deals?
1:31:12 Speaker 04 Not on that level.
1:31:13 Doug DeMuro? But-
1:31:14 Speaker 04 Yeah, Timo sent me some stuff, you know?
1:31:16 Doug DeMuro? Why don't you hook him up?
1:31:17 Speaker 04 It's a different skill.
1:31:18 Doug DeMuro? Of course.
1:31:18 Speaker 04 You need to hook him up.
1:31:20 Doug DeMuro? Me?
1:31:20 Speaker 04 Mister TireRack.
1:31:21 Doug DeMuro? You got mother.
1:31:22 Speaker 03 You guys are doing a lot of things, amazing partnerships you got to do recently. It's really neat, because it was unimaginable just a few years ago, a lot of these brands. So like, we were doing commercials for like, you know, weird game apps and like-
1:31:33 Doug DeMuro? One of the reasons-
1:31:34 Speaker 03 Strange watches and things, like mainstream brands never imagined going on YouTube until very recently.
1:31:39 Doug DeMuro? One of the reasons that I didn't do ads for so long is because the products that you were being asked to advertise were always substandard BS. And I didn't want to be associated with any of that. And it's amazing to me that, yeah, we have, we have like really high-quality companies advertising us that I am actually legitimately, I use their product, I am, I am proud of their product, I am proud to advertise for them because I truly believe that it's like a real, like TireRack, I mean, there's a bunch, mothers. And it's nice.
1:32:07 Speaker 03 Because when we started YouTube, I mean, the, I don't know, the goal for you was more supplement for your writing and things, and somewhat for me. But like, the dream was to like, get a TV show. And like, be the next Top Gear or something like that. And, well, it's to a point, yeah, I had the three seasons of the Motor Trend show. But YouTube became the platform in that time, where now all the people that were very well-known on TV are like, struggling to get a YouTube channel going, because that's, that's where the audience is now. And it's, it's completely flipped. And I-
1:32:35 Doug DeMuro? I find it interesting, because, yeah, that was the goal for so many of these people. And it- Was my goal originally for first couple of years and has not been my goal for years. And I'm surprised that there are still people in this sphere that have that as their goal. Cause it's like, maybe this is it. This is TV. Like this is as big of a reach as any of those shows will ever have. And you don't have to do all the, all the BS.
1:32:55 Speaker 03 Yes, but at the same time, the, the struggle with, I think our content, because you have always wanted to keep to your quality. That's been the same for 10 years or lack thereof, as far as with your reviews. Same with me. I'm kind of a running gun vlog guy. You have key now. That's the very high quality thing. But that's what we have now have to compete with now is TV quality level production in reviews. And car ownership and all that stuff. And, and it is, is one thing where obviously our personalities and the content that we're doing kind of drives that and the reviews and your quirks and all that stuff. But obviously that, that makes it a harder bar to where like getting a million views, no matter what, whenever we, whenever I bought something crazy or when you get a new car. It's, it's not, it's a harder thing to hit nowadays.
1:33:38 Doug DeMuro? It is. It is. Um, I think the short form was really the big thing that affected all that. I think it was short form more than high quality stuff. I think that people on YouTube aren't, don't care that much.
1:33:47 Speaker 03 It's saturation and there's so many people doing what we do now. Where we were, there was much few of us.
1:33:51 Doug DeMuro? I think the real thief, the guy who came and took our revenue and took our views is Forrest Auto Reviews. You see Forrest out there on TikTok? He's the Doug DeMuro of TikTok. Like he does the quirks and features, but like short and good and snappy. He's amazing. I, I look up to him. And also I hate him for stealing everything.
1:34:08 Speaker 03 Really? Well.
1:34:09 Doug DeMuro? No, I don't care.
1:34:09 Speaker 03 I've changed my intros a lot.
1:34:11 Doug DeMuro? I do think that though. I do think short form came and really had an effect. You don't think that?
1:34:14 Speaker 03 I, I, I agree. Cause I have changed my intros a lot to where like I need to get like, they need to know within 10 seconds what this video is going to be. It needs to be less than a second before shot, shot, shot, shot, shot. Because people are so used to that short form style of like, I get all this information in such a short period of time. Like what's going to happen in this video? And then maybe I'll sit and watch it.
1:34:32 Doug DeMuro? Do you do a lot of short form?
1:34:33 Speaker 03 No.
1:34:34 Doug DeMuro? You should.
1:34:34 Speaker 03 I, I need to.
1:34:35 Doug DeMuro? We do it. We spend hours.
1:34:37 Speaker 03 You have a team.
1:34:37 Doug DeMuro? We have a team that spends hours and hours. They, they all get paid a salary, spends hours and hours, and it makes us no money. Listen, Hoovie, at the end of this, uh, to celebrate your arrival here on the pod, I want to provide you with a Ferrari F40. Thank you so much for coming.
1:34:53 Speaker 03 Thank you.
1:34:53 Doug DeMuro? It's beautiful that you're here.
1:34:55 Speaker 03 It's like the gas monkey one you should have bought.
1:34:59 Doug DeMuro? Did I tell you that story? You know that story?
1:35:00 Speaker 03 I think so, yes.
1:35:02 Doug DeMuro? That's not off camera. I don't think I can tell the whole story here. Uh, thank you so much for coming, for gracing us with your presence, all the way from Scottsdale, Arizona, ladies and gentlemen. Both Nick and Hoovie have a big Scottsdale present.
1:35:14 Speaker 04 That's right.
1:35:15 Doug DeMuro? You guys should meet up one time at a Fazoli's.
1:35:19 Speaker 03 Texas Roadhouse.
1:35:20 Doug DeMuro? Uh, pleasure, Hoovie. You got anything else? Any parting thoughts for us?
1:35:23 Speaker 03 No, I'm honored to be here. Anytime you want me to come.
1:35:26 Doug DeMuro? Really? Because I would have you every week.
1:35:28 Speaker 03 It's an easy drive. It's not bad. Yeah.
1:35:31 Doug DeMuro? Okay, how about every week?
1:35:32 Speaker 03 Not every week.
1:35:33 Doug DeMuro? He said any time.
1:35:34 Speaker 03 You know, quarterly, every other month, whatever you want to do.
1:35:37 Doug DeMuro? Let's do it. Let's bring him here quarterly. Do we pay him for this? Do we pay him for this? Oh, you're getting paid to be here?
1:35:43 Speaker 03 But I don't want to take away budget from Key, you know, that's the other thing. It's like, that's some good stuff.
1:35:48 Doug DeMuro? Ryan Lopez getting real money for that.
1:35:50 Speaker 03 Look, go watch the Key stuff if you haven't yet.
1:35:52 Doug DeMuro? Thank you, that's beautiful.
1:35:53 Speaker 04 He's plugging instead of the own auctions that are currently running that he needs.
1:35:56 Doug DeMuro? This is Hoovie. He is a selfless, beautiful person.
1:36:00 Speaker 04 He's got a goal that he's trying to get running again.
1:36:03 Doug DeMuro? He may not be aging beautifully, but he is beautiful inside.
1:36:08 Speaker 04 Yes. Should we, um, head up with Ryan Hillcrest?
1:36:12 Doug DeMuro? Okay, goodbye, everyone.
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