Become Limitless and Create Your New Reality with Dr. Joe Dispenza

Maximize your potential and turn setbacks into comebacks with this FLASHBACK MASHUP episode featuring insights from Dr. Joe Dispenza, Tom McCarthy, Colin O’Brady, Granger Smith and Me! This episode isn’t just about changing how you think—it's about transforming how you live. Join me as we dive deep into the mechanics of growth and personal evolution with insights that will reshape the way you face challenges and pursue your dreams. Today, we're peeling back the layers on how fundamental shifts in your thinking can dramatically alter your trajectory. You'll discover: The undeniable power of positive thinking and how it shapes your reality Strategic steps to turn theoretical knowledge into actionable change in your life The secret to maintaining motivation and focus amidst distractions and setbacks Whether you're feeling stuck or just looking for that extra spark to ignite your journey, this episode is your springboard to leap towards a future where your potential knows no bounds. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Ed Mylett?

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• 0:45Ed Mylett?

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• 1:33Ed Mylett?

  This is the Ed Meyer Show.

• 1:38Ed Mylett?

  Let's talk about some basic stuff today first. Lay the foundation. Nothing with you is basic, but what is the power of thought? Because we talk about this all the time, this in personal development today. Everyone's talking about, you know, you've got to control your thoughts and control your habits and all these things. And there's a baseline message about that. But you're the best in the world at explaining exactly why this is so important. So, give us some background there.

• 1:59Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, I think, you know, if we, everything starts with a thought. I mean, everything that you do in your life, you have to have a thought before you initiate an action, right? So, if you believe that your thoughts have something to do with your destiny, like any great leader in history understands that, the first thing you have to do is you have to decide, are you going to be defined by a vision of the future? Or are you going to live by the memories of the past? So, give you an example. Most people wake up in the morning, and your brain is a record of the past. It's an artifact of everything you've learned and experienced to this moment, right? It's a memory bank. So, most people wake up in the morning and they start thinking about their problems,

• 2:40Joe Dispenza?

  and those problems are connected to certain people and things at certain times and places. And the moment they start turning on those circuits, those memories are actually causing them to think in the past. Every single one of those memories has an emotion associated with them, and emotions are the end product of past experiences. So then, the moment they recall the event or they recall some problem in their life, they start feeling unhappy, they start feeling discouraged, they start feeling anxious. Now, thoughts are the language of the brain, and feelings are the language of the body, and how you think and how you feel creates your state of being. So we could say then, most people's entire state of being when they start their day is in the familiar past. Well, if you live in the familiar past,

• 3:24Joe Dispenza?

  then it makes sense you're gonna create the predictable future. So what happens for most people is they get stuck in their biology. So think about this. Your body is your unconscious mind. It doesn't know the difference between an experience in your life that creates an emotion and an emotion that you can create by thought alone. So if you're living by the same emotion every single day and those emotions are influencing your thoughts, and you can't think greater than how you feel, or feelings have become the means of thinking, you're thinking in the past. Your lens of the future is going to be colored by the past, so you can't see possibilities. So, most people like to wait for a crisis, or a disease, or a diagnosis before they wake up enough to see. Well, the challenge is, is that biology tends to be redundant.

• 4:07Joe Dispenza?

  So, if you keep thinking the same thoughts, and those thoughts begin to fire certain circuits in your brain, the nerve cells that fire together, wire together, so all of a sudden you start getting hardwired. And those are the thoughts that you can think the easiest. At the same time, those thoughts produce chemicals called emotions, and the next thing you know, your body gets accustomed to living by the same emotions. And it could be guilt, it could be unhappiness, it could be pain. But at least it's familiar to you, at least you can predict it. So, some people would rather cling to the familiar than take a chance in possibility. So, for most people then, they say, "Well..." I don't really see how my thoughts have anything to do with my destiny. Well, that's because ninety-five percent of those thoughts are subconscious programs, right?

• 4:51Joe Dispenza?

  So you're not even conscious that you think those thoughts. So the first step to change is starting to think about what you've been thinking about and change it. And then when you begin to observe those thoughts, you're no longer the program. You're the consciousness observing the program.

• 5:04Ed Mylett?

  Just simply by being an observer of your thoughts.

• 5:06Joe Dispenza?

  Right, so most people, though, when you do that, when you decide to really take a look, it's like lighting a match in a dark place. So you feel uncomfortable. So it's easier to turn on your TV. It's easier to play with your cellphone to distract yourself from those feelings. Well, when you understand that change really requires becoming uncomfortable to a certain degree, and that's normal, that you're leaving the known and you're stepping into the unknown, then it begs the question, what thoughts do you want to fire and wire in your brain? Because your attention on those thoughts begins to reorganize circuitry, re-mold the brain.

• 5:42Ed Mylett?

  So, I love this, by the way. How do you flip that to your advantage? So meditation is really, really means to become familiar with, correct? So we're gonna talk a little bit about meditation as we go forward here in a second. But if it is true that your body is your unconscious mind, which I didn't know that, and it is true that it does not know the difference between a real event or an imagined event, can't you really use that to your advantage, though?

• 6:06Joe Dispenza?

  Of course, because, okay, so let's talk about that. Because this is, because you do this really well. Because most people are waiting for their life to change. So they can feel gratitude, to feel abundance, to feel whole. You know, that's the old model of cause and effect, you know? So if you're living with emptiness, you're living with lack, you're living with pain, most people have been conditioned that something out there has to take away this emptiness or feeling inside of them. But if you believe that you're creating your life and you're living by lack, well, lack isn't gonna create abundance, right? So then it makes sense then that you don't really actually create wealth. You generate wealth, you generate abundance.

• 6:49Joe Dispenza?

  So the moment you start teaching your body emotionally, what that future is gonna feel like before it's made manifest. Well, your body is the unconscious mind, believes it's living in that future in the present moment. Now, it's a scientific fact that it's the environment that signals the gene, okay? The end product from an experience in the environment is an emotion. So when you begin to embrace an elevated emotion, you're beginning to signal the gene ahead of the environment. What's the importance of that? Well, genes make proteins. And proteins are responsible for the structure and the function of your body. And the expression of proteins is the expression of life. So by you creating an elevated emotion and teaching your body what that future will feel like before it's made manifest,

• 7:33Joe Dispenza?

  your body's starting to live in that future reality in the present moment. Now, here's the key. If you were able to become familiar with gratitude, become familiar with wholeness, become familiar with abundance, to become familiar with freedom, and you're able to generate those chemicals every single day, more than likely you would be walking around feeling like your future has already happened and you would no longer be looking for it to happen. You would already feel like it has happened. Now, what is the importance of that? Well, you're literally becoming somebody else. So you're leaving your lack, you're leaving your guilt, you're leaving your emptiness behind.

• 8:08Ed Mylett?

  Oh my gosh, that's so good. So you talk about, I wanna stay in here for a minute because I know people right now are going, "Oh my gosh." And I'm doing that right now too. So now we get into stuff that just benefits me. One of my favorite things you say is that, and it's a general thing, but I wanna move into how you become this. So you say often that "In order to change your personal reality, you must change your personality." But I think also that people maybe aren't aware of how that personality was formed. And we've started to go down that road, but I wanna keep going for a minute. And so you talk often about how a mood over time can end up turning into a personality of sorts. So could you talk about that a little bit?

• 8:45Joe Dispenza?

  Sure, let's talk about it in two ways, okay? So your personality, literally, Ed, is made up of how you think, how you act, and how you feel. And how you think, how you act, and how you feel is your personality. And your personality is intimately connected to your personal reality, your life. So then if you want to change your life, your personal reality, you gotta change your personality. And here we go again. You gotta start becoming conscious of your unconscious thoughts. You gotta start noticing how you act, how you speak. You gotta pay attention to how you're feeling. Some people would live in guilt their whole entire life and don't even know it's guilt because at least it feels like them. So then when you start doing that, you begin to objectify your subjective self. So then, when you begin to make small changes, back to thought.

• 9:30Joe Dispenza?

  A new thought should lead to a new choice. A new choice should lead to a new behavior. A new behavior should create a new experience, and a new experience should create a new emotion.

• 9:38Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 9:39Joe Dispenza?

  And that new emotion is teaching your body chemically to understand what your mind has intellectually understood. Now your body is embodying the truth, right? So then the new emotion should inspire new thoughts, and that's called evolution. So how do we get stuck? It's really simple. The stronger the emotion you feel from some event in your life, be it a betrayal, or a trauma, or whatever.

• 10:00Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 10:00Joe Dispenza?

  The more altered you feel inside of you, the more you pay attention to the cause outside of you. So the brain takes a snapshot. It freezes an image and embosses that pattern neurologically in the brain. And that's called a memory. So we create long-term memories from strong emotional events, okay?

• 10:18Ed Mylett?

  So is that true, though? I just want to understand. Maybe the larger the event, in terms of its emotion to you, the stronger of a hold it has over you?

• 10:24Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, but the more it's embossed in your biology. So some, certain people have a strong experience in their life, and it catches all of the brain's attention. So now they think neurologically within the circuits of the past experience, and they feel chemically within the boundaries of those emotions. And so how you think and how you feel creates a state of being. Now here's the problem. That if you don't know how to mediate or control your emotional reaction to that event, and you keep that refractory period of chemicals going on for extended periods of time, so that the event produces a chemical change, and the body needs to return back to homeostasis or balance. But if it can't, then the elongation of that emotional reaction... For weeks, say, for days or weeks is called a mood.

• 11:09Joe Dispenza?

  So you say, "Ed, what's wrong with you?" "I'm in a mood. Why are you in a mood?" "Well, this thing happened to me five days ago, and I'm having one long emotional reaction." So then what you do is you keep telling the story about it, keep firing and wiring the same circuits, and you keep conditioning the body into the past. So then you wake up in the morning, you look for the emotion. So then now, all of a sudden, you keep it lingering for weeks or months, that's called the temperament. "Well, why is he so angry?" "I don't know. Let's ask him. Why are you so angry?" "Well, this thing happened to me eight months ago. I'm having one long emotional reaction. I'm memorizing my emotions." You keep it going on for years on end, that's called a personality trait. So then a person then is memorizing themselves by living in the past.

• 11:52Joe Dispenza?

  And so then you say to them, "Well, tell me the story." Now, the latest research on memory says that 50% of what we talk about in our past isn't even the truth. So, we make stuff up about the past. In other words, people are reliving a life that they didn't even have just to reaffirm that they can't change, right? So then, what's the significance of this? Where you place your attention is where you place your energy. Period. So then, the stronger the emotion that you have, there's some problem or condition or person in your life, the more you're paying attention to them. So they captured your attention. So you're giving your power away to that person, right? Because they're capturing your attention. So then, there's an energetic connection to every person, everything

• 12:37Joe Dispenza?

  in your past-present reality has your energy connected to it. So now, this is the significance. When a person really decides to be defined by a vision of the future instead of the memory of the past, the hardest part about it is all of a sudden becoming conscious and not making the same unconscious choice. So then, if you lower the volume to your frustration, to your hatred, to your anger, if you truly knew how to do that, if you lowered the volume to that emotion, you would take your attention off that person, which means you would begin to break those energetic bonds, and now you're taking your power back. You're calling energy back to you. We've measured this. And all of a sudden, it builds this bigger electromagnetic field around the person's body. That's energy to heal.

• 13:21Joe Dispenza?

  That's energy to create a new future with, right? And then, if you didn't want to lower the volume to the emotion, then just take your attention off the person. And every time you take your attention off the person, if you became conscious of that, you wouldn't feel the emotion. Now, the body, though... It's been addicted to that emotion because you're using that person to reaffirm your addiction to hatred or frustration. And if that person died, you'd find another one. So then, here you go now. So now you're in a position now where you begin to lower the volume to that emotion, and the body's going, wait a second, you've been doing this for the last 20 years, and all of a sudden, you're just gonna stop hating? And the body says, well, I've been conditioned this way, and conditioning is based on the past.

• 14:03Joe Dispenza?

  So when the body feels the lack of that emotion, just like a drug addict, it says, hey, you're off schedule here. So now the body starts influencing the mind to think about experiences that are embossed in the brain that are based on that emotion. So the emotion now is causing you to think in the past. If we teach a person then how to trade that frustration or that hatred for an elevated emotion, and they'll say, yeah, but you know, it was my ex's fault, or I got betrayed by my partner in business. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know that. Okay, so let's take your partner in business, or take your ex. Let's duct tape him, put him in a cannon, and shoot him to the moon. Now what are you gonna do? Sooner or later, you gotta reckon with yourself and change, right? So then, teach a person then how to trade that emotion for an elevated emotion.

• 14:47Ed Mylett?

  Trade the emotion for an elevated emotion.

• 14:49Joe Dispenza?

  Right. So you're gonna give that up, and you're gonna practice feeling gratitude as an example.

• 14:53Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 14:54Joe Dispenza?

  And the person says, well, I can't feel gratitude. And I say, absolutely you can, because you don't practice feeling it. You practice spending most of your time feeling hatred and frustration. So now, it's gonna take a little time to cause that heart of yours to bloom. Once they're able to feel even the smallest measure of gratitude, where they start feeling appreciation, thankfulness. Gratitude, it's emotional signature. When you get something, when you're receiving something, when something has happened to you...

• 15:26Joe Dispenza?

  Or when something is happening to you, you say "thank you" because you're receiving something. So the emotional signature of gratitude means the event has already happened, or it's happening to you. So the moment you open your heart and you feel gratitude, well, that emotion then is telling the body that the experience has already occurred. And the thought then can make it into the body because it's consistent with the thought. So now you're beginning to program the autonomic nervous system into a very specific destiny. You've got to maintain that modified state of mind and body your entire day, independent of the conditions in your outer environment, independent of your body's cravings of those emotions and habitations, and independent from time. And if you can, get ready.

• 16:11Joe Dispenza?

  Because something weird or unusual, some synchronicity, some coincidence, some opportunity is going to land in your lap, and you didn't have to go and get it.

• 16:21Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 16:21Joe Dispenza?

  It came to you. Now you're the vortex of creation. So if you say to me, "Well, I was feeling gratitude, but then there was traffic, or my coworker sent me a nasty email", then I would say, "Oh, my God. You mean you're allowing your environment, your outer environment, to control how you feel and think? You're back to the unconscious program that you're the victim to your life."

• 16:42Ed Mylett?

  You got it.

• 16:43Joe Dispenza?

  But when you start producing those outcomes in your life, you're going to pay attention to what you did inside of you, and you're going to believe more that you're the creator of your life and less of the victim of your life.

• 16:53Ed Mylett?

  That is so unbelievable, the way that you... I've never heard anybody ever say it like that before because I've watched people who's, you know, this person's caused this insecurity in their life. And even when they remove the person, what they'll do is, "Okay, now I'm going to feel gratitude what you just said", but they're sort of, their body is still addicted to that emotion, and they go seek other references to get them that emotion again. So the first thing you said that I love, that I've not heard before is, one, is acknowledge when that addiction rears its head again, just by acknowledging it. The second thing that really nobody talks about is, it's wonderful to meditate and to get into that space, but then you must get up and be active towards that goal. That's what most people don't ever talk about.

• 17:29Joe Dispenza?

  We're changing our brain and body to live in that future-present reality so that you feel connected to a future. Future instead of the past. And when you're connected to the past, you're looking for it. And if you're looking for it, you're separate from it. If you're being it, then there's a complete change in energy. And nobody changes until they change their energy. And when you change your energy, you change your life. After 8,500 brain scans, I can tell you that you and I are at our absolute best when we get beyond ourselves. That is the elegant moment, where we're free enough to create without any encumbrances.

• 18:05Ed Mylett?

  So this has been measured, too. So there's these different energy centers in the body. Is it true that if you're holding on to these other emotions? I just want a basic answer for this for the group, too. If you're holding on to these negative emotions and you're not moving towards this more empowering emotion, what happens to these energy centers in the body? Can you describe that to some extent?

• 18:24Joe Dispenza?

  The majority of our thoughts and feelings are connected to our sexuality, to our victimization, our guilt, our suffering, our shame, our unworthiness, our self-doubt, or our importance, our control, our fear, our anger, our frustration, our hatred, our judgment. Those are the first three hormonal centers in the body. And those first three centers have everything to do with survival. And those centers are energy consumers.

• 18:53Joe Dispenza?

  Orgasm, digestion, stress is a lot of energy that we're drawing from our very vital life force, our resource of light and information. And we're turning it into chemistry. And we're literally robbing the body's energy, right? So then, living like that for the short term is okay because the body can move back to homeostasis and restore itself. But when we're overdoing that consistently, then there's no energy for growth and repair because you're living constantly in survival. So again, you can eat all the right food, you can do all the right things. But if you're living in anxiety and fear and you're viewing your world from the worst-case scenario that could possibly happen, because that's what you do in survival. There's no energy for growth and repair.

• 19:37Joe Dispenza?

  There's no energy for healing. So, the majority of our thoughts are signaling certain circuits in the brain that signal another part of the brain, limbic brain, to make what's called a neuropeptide. Neuropeptides are chemical messengers that signal hormonal centers. So now you're taking thought and you're storing it as energy in these energy centers. And if you're living in survival, why would you open your heart? I mean, it's just not a time to open your heart. I mean, if you're getting chased by T-Rex, it's not a time to meditate. It's not a time to learn. It's not a time to connect. It's not a time to communicate. It's not a time to sit down and go within. It's not a time to be vulnerable. It's time to run, fight, or hide.

• 20:17Ed Mylett?

  Is that why we're this way? I've never asked you this before. Is this some... I don't think you believe this, but I just want to understand this. Is this some sort of genetic disposition that's been passed down to us since we've been chased by T-Rex?

• 20:28Joe Dispenza?

  I think so. I think survival has been very adaptive.

• 20:31Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 20:31Joe Dispenza?

  Like, because if you're being chased by T-Rex, you don't run up to T-Rex and say, "Oh, cute little dinosaur, let me pet you." That's not adaptive. The fear is adaptive. You run from the unknown. You run from challenges, right? So if you're living in survival, there's better chances of surviving if you run from the unknown. And by the way, when you're living in survival, at the infinite potentials in the quantum field, you'll select the worst-case scenario in your mind. And you'll begin to emotionally prepare yourself for the worst-case scenario because you have better chances of surviving.

• 21:05Ed Mylett?

  There you go.

• 21:06Joe Dispenza?

  If you prepare for the worst, right? So people spend their whole life

• 21:09Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 21:10Joe Dispenza?

  Thinking about the worst thing and emotionally embracing it. Well, you take a thought and emotion, or an image and an emotion, you're branding or conditioning your body into what? Anxiety.

• 21:20Ed Mylett?

  My gosh.

• 21:21Joe Dispenza?

  Into fear. So then you keep doing that over and over again, over and over again. The body becomes the mind of fear. And... Whether you think you can control it or not, you're gonna have a panic attack.

• 21:30Ed Mylett?

  I got it.

• 21:30Joe Dispenza?

  And the panic attack is the body saying, "You've conditioned me this way. Try as you may with your conscious mind to control it."

• 21:36Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 21:36Joe Dispenza?

  You programmed it subconsciously. Then, you start worrying about the next panic attack, and it's that very anticipation

• 21:42Ed Mylett?

  Here we go.

• 21:42Joe Dispenza?

  that keeps the person on the hamster wheel, right?

• 21:44Ed Mylett?

  And robs them of all of this energy as well.

• 21:46Joe Dispenza?

  They're absolutely... So they don't believe in possibility when they're living in that state, because in survival, it's not a time to create. All the blood flow is going to the hind brain and away from the forebrain. There's no physiology, really, for a person to begin to create a new future. So then, so think about it. So then, 70% of the time, people in the world are living, anticipating the next moment, based on their past moment. And so, they're laying reality down moment by moment with the next known, the next predictable moment. And so, the hormones of stress endorse the senses. Our senses become heightened when we're under stress, and we become materialists. We narrow our focus on the danger.

• 22:30Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 22:30Joe Dispenza?

  So then, you're focusing on matter. You're focusing on the material world. And when you do that, you put all your attention, the arousal of the stress hormones, puts all your attention on your body. If you're being chased by T-Rex, you better be paying attention to your body. When people start reaching this moment, my goodness, they're overcoming themselves. And now, they're at that perfect place to create. And my definition of creation is when I forget about myself.

• 22:54Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 22:55Joe Dispenza?

  That's when you're free. So some people can do it because they practice it. Other people can't get beyond the addiction of a certain emotion. That means their body is still their mind.

• 23:04Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 23:04Joe Dispenza?

  So then, if you're sitting in a meditation and your body's throwing the kitchen sink at you and saying, "Ed, you're a loser. You're never gonna change. This is too hard. Why don't you quit?" And you're aware that that's your body doing that, and you say to your body, We're gonna sit here, and we're gonna sit in this fire, and I'm gonna keep applying the formula, and your brain starts running to all the emails you have to do, and you become aware of that, and you return back to the present moment, and you tell the body it's no longer the mind, that you're the mind. Now, your will is getting greater than that program, and there's a liberation of energy. And every time you do that, that's a victory. And you teach people-

• 23:37Ed Mylett?

  Every time you do that, that's a victory. When your mind tells the body, "I'm in charge."

• 23:41Joe Dispenza?

  When you say, when you wanna get up and you wanna quit, and you go, "Oh, now that's my body, bring it back." And now you're taming the animal. The body is the animal, and you're like a dog, you sit. And if you keep doing this, keep doing this, you're climbing on top, and the body finally acquiesces, it finally says, "I'm not going anywhere." And then, boom, there's this liberation of energy. What's the side effect? Joy. Person's heart just automatically opens up, and every time they do that, those victories add up. There's no such thing as a bad meditation. There's only overcoming yourself. And when you sit in the fire, and you work with that, people say to me, "Why do you meditate every morning?" I say, "Because if I can overcome myself in the morning, the rest of my day is easy."

• 24:26Ed Mylett?

  Gosh, is that not true?

• 24:27Joe Dispenza?

  It's easy, because that's what it's about. You master yourself, you master your life. And so then, all the chatter in your head that you listen to all day long, that is called the default mode network in the brain. Our research shows, that shuts off. Not just shuts off during the meditation, it stays shut off for the rest of the day. So the critic in your head that's telling you, "This'll never happen, you don't have enough time," there's no voice there. So you just have a clear flow on where you're going, and you trust yourself more.

• 24:53Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 24:54Joe Dispenza?

  So then, when you start practicing creating that brain and heart coherence, you can believe in a future that you can't see or experience with your senses yet, but you've thought about enough times in your mind that it's actually, there's physical evidence in your brain to look like it's already happened. And you can begin to understand, you can select a new potential in the quantum field, and every day emotionally embrace that future reality, to such a degree that your body begins to believe it's living in that future reality in the present moment, and you're signaling new genes and new ways to change your body to look like it's already happened. Now, think about this. If there's physical evidence by thought alone in your brain and body to look like your wealth or your future has already happened- It's already happened. And you're already it.

• 25:40Joe Dispenza?

  So it's not about your wealth. It's not about your health. It's not about your freedom. It's who you become. So then as you overcome, overcome, overcome, overcome, you become someone else. And so most people don't understand that, that the truth is, is that every time you overcome yourself a little bit more, the side effect is that you love yourself a little bit more. And so now self-love is no longer about pleasure or having a car. It's something that you're cultivating within you. So then imagine, we have researched this show. And this is such a, this is such a duality.

• 26:15Ed Mylett?

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• 27:00Ed Mylett?

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• 29:13Joe Dispenza?

  That when you start seeing the brain start synchronizing, getting coherent, from the front of the brain and the back of the brain, that two hemispheres coming together. We can say to scientists that come and study our work, "Watch this, Ed's gonna pop." "What do you mean?" "Just watch, this is gonna be good." And all of a sudden, you see this brain going into this kind of psychic union, the heart blows wide open, you see coherence going on, and you look around at that person and there's tears running down their face. Imagine feeling so whole that it's impossible to want. I mean, how can you want when you're whole? Because you feel like you already have it. Now, when you reach that point, that's when the magic happens because now you are worthy to receive.

• 29:57Joe Dispenza?

  And the universe only gives us what we think we're worthy of receiving.

• 30:01Ed Mylett?

  Share this with them, please.

• 30:02Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, I think, you know, for me, I mean... I'm curious and I'm a pragmatist. I mean, if you tell me something, all I want to know is how I'm going to use it in my life.

• 30:12Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 30:13Joe Dispenza?

  And I'm not into dinner conversation because nobody changes from that. You know, I mean, I'm a doer and I want to be around doers and...

• 30:20Ed Mylett?

  This is why you and I connect so well, I think.

• 30:22Joe Dispenza?

  And I, yeah, obviously. And you create a group of people that are passionate about transformation and they've done some of the work. When we were doing our four-day, four-and-a-half-day advanced workshops, right around the end of the event, I was seeing people starting to know, seeing some really great transformations and I thought...

• 30:42Ed Mylett?

  This is the pop?

• 30:43Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, it's a pop, you know, big pops. And we were like, we had to send them home. And I was like, "Oh, God, man, if I could just have them for a week." So we created these week-long events where people retreat from their lives.

• 30:55Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 30:55Joe Dispenza?

  And they remove the constant stimulation in their external environment that reminds them of who they think they are as a personality.

• 31:03Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 31:03Joe Dispenza?

  They separate themselves from the people they know and the places they go and the things that they do at a certain amount of time in their routine mundane life. So we'll bridge a little quantum physics, a little neuroscience, a little neuroendocrinology, a little epigenetics, psychoneuroimmunology. Those are all sciences about possibility. And I now know that if you can give people sound, scientific information, you know, for me, that's the language.

• 31:27Ed Mylett?

  I know.

• 31:28Joe Dispenza?

  And then if they can turn to the person next to them and explain it, you're not going to get off the hook.

• 31:33Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 31:34Joe Dispenza?

  If you can't explain it, it's not wired in your brain. But if you can build a model and explain it, you're installing the neurological hardware in your brain in preparation for the experience. So the more you understand what you're doing and why, the how gets easier because you can assign meaning to it. So then if I can set up the conditions and the environment and give them the proper instructions and push the envelope a little bit.

• 31:55Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 31:56Joe Dispenza?

  And people who get their behaviors to match their intentions and their actions equal to their thoughts, they get their mind and body working together, they're going to have a new experience. And the experience then is not only going to enrich the philosophical circuits in their brain because experience does that, but it's going to produce an emotion. So they're going to start feeling more unlimited. They're going to start feeling more free. Now they're teaching their body chemically to understand what their mind has intellectually understood. So if you've done it once... Should be able to do it again.

• 32:22Ed Mylett?

  You have the recipe, you have the formula.

• 32:23Joe Dispenza?

  So if you can repeat it, you will neurochemically condition your mind and body to begin to work as one. In other words, the body will start to learn how to do it as well as the mind, and you won't have to consciously think about it any longer. So it gets easier, right? So we follow that format, and the first couple of days is that getting beyond your life, getting beyond your emotions. Everybody's got to do it, but if you just keep applying the formula and keep going, and I keep reminding you and keep building the model, I give them numerous opportunities to connect and numerous opportunities to overcome themselves. Sooner or later, you're just going to figure it out. It doesn't matter, you're just going to figure it out. And when you do, then, we start seeing now these incredible transformations and changes. And it's like a four-minute mile.

• 33:06Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 33:06Joe Dispenza?

  Because I really think now, Ed, that evidence is the loudest voice.

• 33:11Ed Mylett?

  Sure.

• 33:11Joe Dispenza?

  It is the loudest voice. And so we've got all the brain scans, we've got all the heart rate measurements, we've got great measurements on immune regulation, how you can strengthen your immune system by thought alone. We have great measurements on that you could actually change your genes in four days, lengthen your telomeres, lengthen your life within 60 days, you know, change your neurotransmitters, change the energy around your body, the energy centers of your body, and change all this stuff. And so, that's the scientific evidence, but the evidence of people now is really is really the laboratory. So then, what's the side effect of a person then who begins to make significant changes in just mastering that formula? Well, the side effect is a remission

• 33:56Joe Dispenza?

  from a health condition. So we have seen, not once, not twice, more than twice, blind people. Like that, that one lady had a stroke on the optic nerve, a nurse from London, very smart lady, and the

• 34:16Joe Dispenza?

  A lesion was on the optic nerve and it created a blind spot Yes. in her visual field. Mm-hmm. From six o'clock to nine o'clock. Okay. So, she can't see Right. anything there. And so, she lost her license. She has her own company. She couldn't read emails. And sooner or later, your brain accommodates a little bit, but not fully. Mm-hmm. And so, the typical prognosis with a stroke, when there's neurological damage, that if your brain doesn't recover within two weeks. It's gonna stay. It's gonna stay the same and slowly get worse. So, she has great relationships with all the physicians and they all said, "Yeah, you're gonna have to learn to live with it."

• 34:58Joe Dispenza?

  And, believe it or not, one doctor said, "Hey, why don't you try going to this event?" And this nurse, nurses are practical people. I mean, they're super practical people. And you wanna get a good doctor, ask a nurse. Right, sure. And they're just very, very practical. So, she did all, she did the online course, she did both the courses, she read all the books, she did all the meditations. And she came to the event with the intention of learning how to live with her condition. It didn't occur to her fully that she could heal it. And she went because she wanted to start a nonprofit to help people. Wow. So, she went with a doctor that recommended the work.

• 35:38Joe Dispenza?

  And just certain point in the middle of the event, she was doing a walking meditation on the beach with a thousand other people there. And it occurred to her that maybe she should think about healing her eyes, you know? So, she went into the meditation in the same day. And she laid down after we finished the meditation. And she said it was like someone taking cellophane, crackling it in her head. She felt something going on inside her brain. And she was crying because she knew something spectacular was happening. And she didn't want to open her eyes and then the meditation ended. And she said, "When I opened my eyes, it was like I was seeing so much brighter."

• 36:23Joe Dispenza?

  Wow. And she said, "I could see, no blind spot." And she was, the doctor was laying right next to her. She was sobbing, they were hugging each other. And so she went on the Monday morning to get her eyes, the visual fields, measured. And hopefully we'll get the image for you. Sure. You can see on the pre-measurement, just a black, that quarter of the sphere. The lesion. The circle was just all black, in other words, blindness. You see the post-measurement on the Monday morning after the event, there isn't a black spot. Unbelievable. Complete restoration of sight.

• 37:01Joe Dispenza?

  Now, if you ask me if that was possible, you know, two years ago, I would say, "Yeah, it's possible theoretically." But now, like, this is the four-minute mile. And we have another lady that was blind from birth, 5% vision. And again, you know, she had an amazing experience with our coherence healing. We teach people how to heal. When she opened her eyes, she could see faces for the first time. Unbelievable. And in fact, they had these two big bouquets on the stage, really big, beautiful flowers. And, you know, she had 5% vision, so she could just see a little bit of light. And she thought they were two guards, two bodyguards, on the stage, guarding me the whole event.

• 37:46Joe Dispenza?

  And when she sat up, she could see flowers. Or you see the nurse tell her story, or the lady who's allergic to everything at the same event, who's wearing a mask with the filters and the whole bit, that had anaphylactic shock every day of her life. By the second day, she's on the floor with her mask off, dancing around, you know. A person sits down after they witness that. When they close their eyes and they do their next meditation, their acceptance, their belief. And their ability to surrender and trust that it could happen to them becomes greater. What I want our community to do is say, what is standing in the way between me and my ability to connect to that field? Because I want to eliminate every belief, every emotion, every past, you know, whatever.

• 38:31Joe Dispenza?

  I want to remove all of those valves. Why am I doing this? Because I want to get so good at this. We have some MIT researchers that are gonna, that are gonna organize all the data. Fifty percent. We want, I want to get to fifty percent and then we are gonna walk into children's hospitals and we're gonna say, what kids? Just give us your kids. We won't, we won't touch them. We don't want any money. All we want to do is help. And I think that is...

• 38:57Ed Mylett?

  That's amazing.

• 38:58Joe Dispenza?

  That's a living organism called the human beings that are, that, the living organism, the human being, the age of selfish individuality has to end right now. The living organism has to take care of one another. They have to heal one another. They have to teach one another. They have to exchange important information amongst one another. They have to shine for one another, not to be outstanding and competitive, but to show others that they can shine. That's, that's the only way we're gonna make our way out of this mess.

• 39:26Ed Mylett?

  Oh my gosh. My favorite things that I've ever had said here, just so you know. Because the application of this is beyond just someone going from five percent vision to ninety-five percent vision. The application of this in humanity and consciousness, as you've just described there at the end, is what really, I'm, I'm hearing and seeing all of that. That's what fascinates me. And I must say to you that, you know, we all agree that certainly our thoughts can make us unhealthy. So if that is true, there's gotta be a way that the mind and the heart can be able to heal the body as well. And I'm fascinated by the study of epigenetics and what you've just covered here is, it's a whole new level. I love what you said, we've poked a hole. It's the four-minute mile.

• 40:05Joe Dispenza?

  And, but I do... But, but the reason it's the four-minute mile is because once the four-minute mile was broken, two weeks later, everybody was breaking. Because it was a new belief.

• 40:14Ed Mylett?

  It's a new belief.

• 40:14Joe Dispenza?

  A new level of consciousness. So, so then, so the, the evidence of all these amazing healings, and not only just healings, people are creating new jobs, new opportunities.

• 40:23Ed Mylett?

  That's right.

• 40:23Joe Dispenza?

  New relationships, new mystical experiences that transcend language, where you just can't be at anymore. You know too much after that.

• 40:30Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 40:31Joe Dispenza?

  That's, that's the unknown, right? So, in order for you to, to really begin to explore the unknown aspect of yourself... You gotta learn how to get beyond the known aspect of yourself. Yourself. And if you keep coming back to the known, you're gonna miss out on the unknown. So you would say, "Well, I don't know anything in the unknown." Of course, it's the unknown. And if you try to control it there, you're back to the known. If you try to predict it, you're back to the known. So you gotta go through this trial and error of just kinda refining your attention, refining your ability. And it's just gotta be something like playing tennis, or playing golf, or doing martial arts, or working out, or crocheting, or dancing the salsa. You just gotta keep going, man. And in the beginning, it's tedious. And then, when you start finding your groove, like our community,

• 41:13Joe Dispenza?

  they don't miss their morning meditations. Yeah. You know why? Because the magic is happening. And they know if they miss it, they're gonna, they're gonna cut off from the magic. So whether they're tired, whether they're hungover, whether they're... Right. They're in. Right. You know, and if you, if you wake up in the morning,

• 41:31Joe Dispenza?

  and you can't get your butt out of bed, you know what that means? It just means you can predict the feeling of everything that's gonna happen in your life. Your body's resigned. The body's resigned. So then, so then, you know, when you went on a school trip when you were a kid, you know, you woke up before your parents, because you knew something new was gonna happen. That's the body going, "Wake up! Wake up." Something unexpected is gonna happen. What happened to us, right? Yeah, Christmas Day. Yeah. Yep. So why not, you know, put in your, put in your time, and then, and then measure the effects of you would cause. I mean, become a scientist in your life, and really start to experiment with it. "Okay, let me change my energy. Let me just write down four thoughts that, like, I can't, it's too hard, I'll start tomorrow, this doesn't feel right, whatever it is. It's this person's fault."

• 42:16Joe Dispenza?

  Just write those down and say, "These thoughts, like Gandalf on the bridge, Yes. "You may not pass today. This is the end." Yes. So then, if you become conscious of those thoughts, now you're the governor of your thoughts. What, what, what actions, what behaviors do you wanna change? Do you complain? Do you blame? Do you judge? Do you make excuses? How do you talk? Do you speak limited? Just pick four things that you're not gonna do any longer. Yeah. What emotions get you in trouble? What are the emotions?

• 42:45Ed Mylett?

  That you're addicted to, too, right?

• 42:46Joe Dispenza?

  That you're addicted to that keep you returning back to your past? If you don't know, close your eyes for about thirty minutes and just watch where your mind goes and watch your feelings and just say, "Okay, it's frustration, it's unworthiness, it's self-doubt, it's guilt, it's frustration, it's shame." Just become conscious of those and just review them in your mind so that you don't go unconscious them in your waking day.

• 43:09Ed Mylett?

  It's so powerful because, by the way, everyone that's listening to this is so awesome because if you've been listening to my content for the last three or four months, we've been laying this foundation and now I just bring you this master that takes it to a master class level and explains to you the scientific reasons that these things work. But I want to jump back in with you here on something because I just want to do a couple basic application things for everyone here.

• 43:31Ed Mylett?

  These emotions that our body gets addicted to, there's a power, everyone, because I've experienced this in my own life. Everything that Joe's explaining here, other than healing my own body, I've watched them happen in my life from the standpoint of becoming something and then these things are in my life rather than me sort of forcing them to happen. I mean, most people that have had any great things happen in their life can define at least moments of their life where this is just a known truth. Dr. Joe talks so eloquently about the fact that, you know, about this epigenetics concept is fascinating to me, but at the same time, you talk eloquently about only about 1% of us are predisposed to most of these negative ailments in our lives in the first place anyways. This is a misnomer. But I want to talk about meditation for a second because there's people listening to this that have never done it before.

• 44:16Ed Mylett?

  So I just want them to start at a bit, because the thing that you say that just as a base level thing, by writing these emotions down, you either don't want to experience or do, or the thoughts that do or don't serve you. The power in just that, everybody, okay? I want to go back to what Joe said earlier. I just want to give you my two cents on this, is you become aware of them when they, when they reveal themselves to you. Just the awareness gives you a power over them you didn't have before. And remember what Dr. Joe said before? Every time you sort of make progress on something like this, you are remaking yourself. So give yourself credit for these small wins. But the cool thing about meditation for me is it strips me of the distractions.

• 44:53Joe Dispenza?

  Exactly.

• 44:53Ed Mylett?

  It strips me of what I see, of the kinesthetic, of the auditory. Can you talk about just that basic concept for a second?

• 44:59Joe Dispenza?

  Again, I mean, this is brilliant. Because you're a practical guy and so am I. So, all right, so if the word meditation means become familiar with, right?

• 45:09Joe Dispenza?

  Then, you know, people say, "Oh, well, you shouldn't focus on the negative." Well, really, that's 95% of who you are. And you've got to begin to dismantle or denature that old personality. And that means you're gonna have to come up against the cravings that the body has emotionally. You know, like, it's 8 o'clock in the morning and you're doing your meditation. You're normally in traffic. And you want to get angry and your body's going, "Hey, you're off schedule." "Let me just find something that's mapped in the brain that I... I'll bring up a past experience while you can feel a little anger." Well, now, once you've become aware of that, now, now the game is on, right? Because now, you're working to become conscious of that and not go unconscious again. And it takes an incredible amount of awareness. Yes. It takes a great amount of consciousness.

• 45:54Joe Dispenza?

  And you can't have consciousness without energy. So you've got to raise your energy in order to get to it. Otherwise, you're gonna be consumed. Yes. You're gonna return back, right? So... Gosh. So if you start becoming familiar, so conscious of those unconscious thoughts, they would never slip by your mind unchecked by you. Now, that is when you really catch yourself, right? And the research shows that you can get better at this. You could actually sense the thought before it comes. So then you start firing and wiring new thoughts. You start thinking to yourself, "Who am I gonna be when I open my eyes? How am I gonna make a difference in the world today? Who am I gonna be? How am I gonna love? How am I gonna give? How am I gonna serve? How am I gonna contribute? What things do I want to really do today?"

• 46:36Joe Dispenza?

  And in the act of closing your eyes and just thinking about and rehearsing what you're gonna do, your brain doesn't know the difference. And if you get caught up in it, you begin to install the neurological hardware in your brain to look like you've already done it. Done it. Now, the brain's no longer a record of the past. Now, it's a map to the future. You are priming your brain. And if you keep doing it, the hardware will become a software program. You know what that means? You just might start acting like a happy person. Well, there's no surprise there. You installed the circuits. Stress hormones arouse the body, so you have your attention on your body. Stress hormones alert the brain, so you're aware of everything in your environment, like an octopus with tentacles in all different directions. You've got to control and predict everything in your life.

• 47:21Joe Dispenza?

  And if you're living by the hormones of stress, you're always investing your attention and energy into the known future based on the past. So you're on a line of time here, on a timeline. So then, let's think about it. How are you gonna make thought more real than anything else? How are you gonna create from thought? Well, let's close our eyes. Let's disconnect from the environment. Right. Less sensory information coming into the brain, less distraction, as you said. Let's play some soft music in the background, let's stick some earplugs in our ear, whatever you want to do, diminish sensory. Now, you're sitting down, you're not eating, you're not tasting, you're not smelling, you're not feeling, so there's more, less sensory input coming to your body, so then now, your brainwaves begin to change.

• 48:02Joe Dispenza?

  They start slowing down, and you move from this beta brainwave pattern where you're aware that you have a body in space and time, or your attention is on the outer world, or your senses are giving you information. Less sensory information, now your inner world starts becoming more real than the outer world, and you're not, the voice in your head that's always talking to you, as your brainwaves change, you start seeing images and pictures and symbols, and less in that vocalization, that subvocalization. So your brainwaves start changing to alpha, you're gonna start creating, start dreaming, pretending, right? So then, if you say to your body, "You're gonna sit down for an hour, and I know you're on a program because you wake up every morning and do the exact same thing, and now I'm

• 48:46Joe Dispenza?

  gonna make you sit," just like to an animal, "You sit, you stay, and your body's gonna say, 'I'm gonna die, my bladder's gonna explode, I need a coffee, I got a lot of emails to do,' that's the program." And you say to your body, "Today, we do battle. Today, this is it." And you sit through that, and you make your way, even though your body's trying to get up and you keep settling it back down, I'm telling you, when you start your day that day, you will be more kind, more loving, less judgmental, more patient, more present, because you're mastering the present moment. That means you're not in the predictable future, you're not in the familiar past, you're mastering time. And so then, if where you place your attention is where you place your energy, and all of your attention is in the present moment...

• 49:32Joe Dispenza?

  You've got a lot of energy to do amazing things. And you know when someone's present with you in your life because they're paying attention to you. And you know when they're not present with you because they're not paying attention to you. So the act of getting more present means you're putting a lot of energy in the present moment and you're taking your power back from all these things and people in your life. So, we teach people this. As they start breaking through and they start being able to unfold into this field as an awareness. And they're not putting their attention on their boss, or their ex, or their wife, or their kids, or their cellphone, or their WhatsApp, or their Facebook. They're not thinking at all. So then, as they're sensing the space, they can't think. And if you can't think, you can't analyze.

• 50:17Joe Dispenza?

  And if you can't analyze, the analytical mind is what separates the conscious mind from the subconscious, which just opened the door. And so now, you can reprogram in there, right? So then, it's so important then that of the infinite places you can put your attention, let's put it on your heart. Now, where you place your attention is where you place your energy. Why? Because we want this center to bloom. 1,400, 1,300 different chemicals that we store and regenerate the body. Let's breathe, let's open this up, let's practice this. Let's start learning how to lead with our heart, a different consciousness. Yeah, in the beginning, it's a little difficult, but you stay with it and you practice it, pedal by pedal by pedal, placing your attention there, you're putting your own life force

• 51:02Joe Dispenza?

  back into your heart, you're turning your love inward, and the body will start responding. And in a week's time, if we're doing that three times a day, or over and over again, sooner or later, that thing's going to start blooming. And just like when your sexual organs are aroused and they're engorged with blood, this center, when you start feeling love, you make a chemical called oxytocin. Oxytocin signals nitric oxide. Nitric oxide signals a chemical called derived endothelial relaxing factor. You know what that is? It causes the arteries in your heart to literally open up. So your heart is going to be filled with blood and oxygen and nutrients. It's physiological, it's going to feel full.

• 51:47Joe Dispenza?

  You're going to have a heart on, in a sense. Your heart is going to fill, right? And when that happens... You experience a level of love that passes all understanding. Your cup runneth over. I mean, it is... And people are... They're sobbing because they realize that this center finally... Like a child. So then, back to your question. Let's demystify meditation. Because it has so many stigmas around it. Close your eyes. Retreat from your life. Disconnect from your body. Disconnect from your environment. Disconnect from your schedule. And just give yourself an hour, or 45 minutes, or 20 minutes. Because when you invest in yourself,

• 52:32Joe Dispenza?

  you invest in your future. And when you believe in yourself, you believe in possibilities. And when you believe in possibilities, you believe in yourself. And if you don't believe in possibilities, then you don't believe in yourself. And you don't believe in yourself, you don't believe in possibilities. So then... But if you have a community, a living organism, where it's becoming the new normal.

• 52:51Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 52:52Joe Dispenza?

  And you want to join that living organism, and you want to be a part of that. And every stride you make feeds the living organism. Every stride, every effort you make to connect is amazing. Because that which we are seeking is seeking us. It's not like... It is... It matches our efforts. And so then, when people have that uncompromising will, the same way that they go shopping for a dress, or a pair of earrings, or go to the gym and work out, with the same intensity, with the same passion, come up against themselves and just say... When the body's going, giving everything it has, it's when you say, "That's all you got? That's it?

• 53:37Joe Dispenza?

  That's all you're gonna put out to? I'm ready." And so then, when you start overcoming that, the side effect of it is that all of a sudden, you're happy for no reason. And you're less seduced in believing that something else, you need something outside of it, outside of you to make you feel better. All of a sudden, you're feeling better every day without anything outside of you. And now, all of a sudden, you start showing up unpredictable in your life. They're saying, "That Ed guy, he's different. He's on a different medication. He's..." But in actuality, you're just freer, right? And so, so then, as we begin to remove these layers that stop the flow of the divine in us, that had an essence in us, the side effect is we become more willful, we become more

• 54:22Joe Dispenza?

  mindful, we become more conscious, we become more loving. It's, it's nature, you know? It just, it just becomes, becomes who we are.

• 54:30Ed Mylett?

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• 56:39Ed Mylett?

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• 57:22Ed Mylett?

  I feel great and I bring energy to the entire day. Go to im8health.com/ed10 right now or click the link in the description and use code ED10 for a free welcome kit, five free travel sachets, plus 10% off your order. That's code ED10 at im8health.com/ed10. Code ED10 at im8health.com/ed10. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. I think you gotta pick an area and laser in on it to use your terminology. Why? It's connected to the second thing we're gonna talk about, which is energy. When you're focused on a lot of different things, you've depleted the energy.

• 58:06Tom McCarthy?

  Yeah.

• 58:06Ed Mylett?

  Right? And you say in the book, you say, or you, in one of the talks too, is that Einstein says, everything is energy. Not some things.

• 58:14Tom McCarthy?

  Yeah.

• 58:14Ed Mylett?

  Everything is energy. Driving here to do the interview today, I've had a little bit of rest lately. And I knew today was gonna be awesome because I was coming in, I'm like, I, I'm vibrating at a high frequency today. I know what it feels like to be vibrating at a high enough frequency where I'm gonna produce a great result. And I know what it feels like oftentimes where I am not. The different things I've had in my life, my new book, all this other stuff, I've just not been vibrating at quite the energy level that I know is the success level that I need to be at. So talk a little bit about this. You said something in this, I've never heard someone say about cells and volts of energy and like, you can actually prove almost with, with neuroscience or chemistry or math, why this is actually true. So let's go to the energy thing for a second and how one might direct it.

• 58:58Tom McCarthy?

  Yeah, so everything is energy and not just us, right? You know, the, the cells and atoms and in our body, but everything, like this, this table that we're, it's just condensed energy, this table right in front of us here, everything's energy. And everything's created twice, first inside, then outside, right? This table was an idea in somebody's head at one point in time. And, and then they, you know, through work, they formed energy. And now we've got a table that we can put our hands on and, and microphones and everything. So, uh, everything's energy and, and Einstein also, uh, he, he was a big believer in the imagination and that energy follows thought. And so when we think of thought, energy follows that.

• 59:40Tom McCarthy?

  When the president of the Ukraine was thinking, hey, we need help here, like, energy was, was, was behind that thought. And that thought came to you, you heard it and I heard it and, and all of a sudden like we're, we're rooting for him, right? We're rallying for them.

• 59:56Tom McCarthy?

  When you understand, the challenge I think most people have, Ed, is they live so firmly planted in this physical world of the only thing that exists is what I can touch, what I can see, what I can feel, but everything's created twice. So there's things you can't touch, see, and feel that are being created now. They're not in physical reality yet, they're in the non-physical, but that's where all the greatness starts. And when someone's struggling, all they can see is what is already there for them, and they get stuck and then they conform. What I think we as human beings ideally should do, and this is hard, because it's fun to live in the physical world, and you've got all these great houses, you know,

• 1:00:37Tom McCarthy?

  I have different toys and fun things, and it's fun, and that's why we're here. So I like doing that, but we also have to have ideally a foot in the non-physical, where there are no boundaries, and where energy is waiting, it's just literally saying, "What do you want, Ed? What do you want?" Like, everything you have, you're telling me about your, you know, beautiful homes, those all came from first you directing energy inside you to go out and make those opportunities real.

• 1:01:04Ed Mylett?

  Okay, brother, no one's ever said that on the show before, and it's so true. One, I talk a lot about, I think 99% of people operate out of a pattern of thinking that is history and memory. 1% of humans have worked to the extent that they operate of imagination and vision. They actually have that as their operating platform. The people that I naturally enjoy their energy, to quote you, are people who operate out of imagination. And by the way, you can just take an inventory of yourself and the people around you. How many of your conversations, your thoughts are about imagining and visioning, and how many of them are about history and memory? And in my life, I've just sort of, as I've gotten older, gravitated, but I'm telling you, almost everything I accomplish or that I do, I consciously begin to think about it. So, out of the physical, I've never heard someone phrase it that way before. It's exactly what I do.

• 1:01:49Ed Mylett?

  I'm working on a few things right now. My process unconsciously, now that I'm 51 years old and has repeated it over 30 years, my process is to actually sit, get in a quiet, meditative state to some extent, and I'm talking about holding my hands and praying. I'm talking about just getting alone almost for me is that state. And it is to have a thought and then I am actually literally intentionally pouring energy into the thought.

• 1:02:11Tom McCarthy?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:12Ed Mylett?

  I'm trying to pour more and more and more energy into the thought and then I actually separate from it and I get away from it for a while.

• 1:02:17Tom McCarthy?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:17Ed Mylett?

  And I let it just sit with its energy. And then I pour more and more and more energy into that vision and that imagination and it amazes me how the world begins to conspire to help me make it true.

• 1:02:28Tom McCarthy?

  Yes.

• 1:02:29Ed Mylett?

  Whether it's that running on the street.

• 1:02:30Tom McCarthy?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:31Ed Mylett?

  Or a conversation today or something I then read and I'm like, what in the, why has this pop up?

• 1:02:36Tom McCarthy?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:37Ed Mylett?

  Right? So this is the process of creativity. It's thinking and then flooding it with energy. And the more successful you become, the more you have some wins, the more you begin to understand what that feels like when you're actually doing it.

• 1:02:51Tom McCarthy?

  And it's liberating because now you know there's nothing that can stop you.

• 1:02:54Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 1:02:54Tom McCarthy?

  Yeah. And, and that's what most people don't have. They literally think there's lots of things out there that can stop them and they're not willing to take that leap of faith. And you gotta take the leap of faith in the beginning. Like people that are listening to this that haven't, that you know, that are not at Ed's level yet, just know at one, at one point he was at your level, right? But he just outgrew that.

• 1:03:14Ed Mylett?

  Of course.

• 1:03:15Tom McCarthy?

  And it wasn't because, you know, he or me or anyone else is better than anybody else. It's just we're using the tools that everyone's using. As a matter of fact, people that are struggling, the reason they're struggling is because their subconscious is so powerful that it's taking all this information that they've put in that life's a struggle, life's hard, you can never get ahead and it's making it absolutely true for them.

• 1:03:37Ed Mylett?

  Yeah. So I, I so know that it's not that I'm different, which is why I'm in this space. I know humans can change. I know the reality can change because I'm so aware of my own limitations. I'm so aware of how many things I am either average at or sub-average at, that if I can produce certain things in my life, because I, this is not even humility, I just realize my own limitations in terms of my intellect or my strength or my upbringing or my experiences, that if I can produce these things in my life, I absolutely one million percent sure know you listening to this or watching this can as well. And there is a process. It is both art and science. The art part, you're gonna figure out as you go.

• 1:04:20Ed Mylett?

  The science part, which is what we're talking about today, is absolutely a replicatable process that you can start with. So let's start with a few of what those things are. I, I wanna go back one thing, cause you just used a term I've not heard before, which is use your own electricity.

• 1:04:35Ed Mylett?

  And so just, I want to just, like, what does that mean to you? Because people say energy. I think a lot of people have heard the term energy before and like, look, I just don't get it, you know? But electricity.

• 1:04:44Tom McCarthy?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:45Ed Mylett?

  I don't think most people look at themselves as electric. And they are. And it's almost like, use the example of a light, everyone, God bless you, but if you really are an electrical being, it's so sad to dim your light over time.

• 1:04:58Tom McCarthy?

  Great, great analogy, I like that, yeah.

• 1:05:00Ed Mylett?

  Me too, and just reading your work and you've reduced your electrical charge. And the external evidence of that is the light's dimming in your life. The cool part is that at any given time, you can start to take control and charge of your electricity. I just like that term better than energy.

• 1:05:18Tom McCarthy?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:19Ed Mylett?

  So are we electric actually as human beings? And maybe like one thought or concept about how one begins to up their amp level, so to speak.

• 1:05:27Tom McCarthy?

  So Bruce Lipton, who you're probably familiar with, Biology of Belief, he's the one that I got the data from on each cell has a certain charge and we've got, I can't even remember since I wrote it, but we have, you know, like billions or trillions of cells in our bodies. So, yeah, we got a lot of electricity, like, we could light up a city if we used it effectively. I really love what you just said, though, like, because I've never thought of it like someone dimming their light, because I think that really is what's happening, or what's happened to a lot of people. It's not like they don't have the charge available, but they've got it on the dimmer, right? And they're just so used to having it dimmed out that they think that's all there is.

• 1:06:10Tom McCarthy?

  You and I, the reason we do this, and I've been doing this a long time and, you know, don't necessarily have to do it anymore. But I really feel like my purpose, and I know your purpose, is to help people understand they can do so much more. And it's not about doing more, it's about really expressing themselves and living their purpose and do the work that they came here to do. And I think a lot of people have lost sight of that, or they're not even clear what that is.

• 1:06:37Ed Mylett?

  What if you had never pushed yourself to an extreme? I'm just curious, you burned your legs and your feet. And by the way, he's in this hospital, it's unsanitary, he's cat walking over his body like, and again, his mom comes and what if after that, because he decides, by the way, he's got to give this away to everybody, it blows my mind. He's like, his mom says, what's your Everest? Basically, while he's laying there, he's like, I don't know, I'm never gonna get out of here, I'm never gonna walk again. And I'll just speak it for Colin, Colin says, um, I'll do a triathlon. Eighteen months later, this dude does a triathlon after he was told he could never walk again. And he freaking wins it. He freaking wins the triathlon. It's insane. And then you've gone on, what if you had never pushed yourself?

• 1:07:21Ed Mylett?

  Never known what you were capable, because there's a lot of people calling that go through this whole life in the five, six range. Never knowing what they're capable of. What if you would have never done that in your life? How much different do you think you would be, your marriage would be? You as a person would be, just, I mean, I don't know if you ever sit back and think about that. What if I'd have never seen what I was capable of?

• 1:07:43Colin O'Brady?

  It, it's such a powerful and important question, and it, it just, I'm smiling because it just strikes at the heart of the, what I'm passionate about sharing, what I've shared about those ones and tens, you know? People have asked me, it, it's a different question, but it's come from the same place of, I was 22 years old, the reason I got burned in this fire was I was, I jumped a flaming jump rope. I was on a beach in Thailand, 22 years old, clearly not a fully formed prefrontal cortex. And I saw a couple of guys with a kerosene soaked jump rope, and I was like, gee, that looks like fun, what could possibly go wrong here?

• 1:08:15Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 1:08:15Colin O'Brady?

  And I wrapped that rope around my body, lit my fire completely on, lit my body on fire to my neck. And I thankfully was near the ocean, jumped in the ocean, saved my life, but not before about 25% of my body was burned, as you mentioned, predominating my legs and feet. And doctors thought I would never walk again. And I spent months in rural Thai hospitals, I was in a wheelchair, all these things, right? And people have asked me, well, if you could go back in a time machine and whisper to your 22 year old self, would you tell him not to jump the jump rope?

• 1:08:44Colin O'Brady?

  And it's an interesting question because the knee jerk response is of course, don't jump the jump rope. Don't, don't light your body on fire. And I wouldn't wish the physical pain of that injury on my worst enemy. And I'll tell you what was worse than the physical pain was the emotional trauma, not only that I suffered, my mom, thank God, she saved me from that mess, but she also had to stare and see her child severely burned in a place where no one spoke the language in the middle of nowhere that she couldn't move and the hurt that that caused her and my family. So on one hand, I wouldn't want to cause that hurt to anyone in my family. But here's the thing. I learned some of life's most valuable lessons from the resilience game to recover from that,

• 1:09:25Colin O'Brady?

  from having that specific goal, at least for me, which was a triathlon. And so that's all to say, I sit here with 10 world records and we're not talking about the 10 world records that I set before I stupidly burned myself in a fire and screwed up my entire life. I set those records after that burn and I only could have walked across Antarctica if I had burned myself in the fire. And forget about the external achievement. I love that you brought up marriage into this. I show up for my wife with love and compassion and grace and I don't always get it right. I'm not perfect, but I am a better person because I have sought out what, what, what, uh, the limitations and the challenges and I've suffered some. And so it's a weird thing. I know, I know

• 1:10:10Colin O'Brady?

  you were, uh, I was just listening to your most recent episode with, uh, Eric, the hip hop preacher. Love that dude. What a guy. And you're saying, you're saying to him, he's like, you know, he's, he's been homeless and he's been in the four seasons, you know? Uh, you know, he's been illiterate and he's got a PhD. There is something about pushing the edges of what we're capable of in any given moment that teaches us so much about life. And that's why people ask me, even after I share a story about five of my friends dying, five of my friends dies. I, there's not a day that goes by, I tear up often still 18 months later, thinking about the tragedy of that moment that I shared. And people sometimes ask me, they say, hey, Colin, aren't you afraid of dying?

• 1:10:53Colin O'Brady?

  I think about it. Yeah, I'm afraid to die. I'm super afraid to die. And this life is such a gift. I am afraid of dying. But you know what I'm more afraid of? I'm afraid of not living. I'm afraid of not living. And just sitting there in that five. Day after day after day and never seeing what you're capable of and never seeing what you can create and never feeling into your full potential, even if to feel into that hurts a little bit for a moment in time, those ones, those twos, those threes. That is the juice of life. That's the spice and the 12 hour walk, even the walk itself is a metaphor for this experience. Guess what? If you walk for 12 hours, even if you take a ton of breaks, your feet are going to get tired at some point.

• 1:11:36Colin O'Brady?

  You might be a little bit out of your comfort zone in terms of bring some food with you, bring some water. You might be a little dehydrated. You might get a blister on your foot. You might be tired. You might think to yourself, I hate being alone. This is uncomfortable. Yes, you are likely going to experience some ones, some twos, some threes on that day. But how many five days over the last 365 can you not even remember? What'd you do last Tuesday? What'd you do a month ago? What'd you do two months ago? There are so many days in our life that don't even imprint and register in our memory because they're just eh. Cause you're not alive. You're not fully living. You take this 12 hour walk, you're gonna seek some discomfort. It is going to be challenging at times, but I guess, guess you what? If I asked you a year from now, five years from now, 10 years from now, have you ever walked very far?

• 1:12:20Colin O'Brady?

  You know what? 10 years ago, I did walk by myself alone in silence. It's not going to be a five day. You're gonna feel some ones, some twos, some threes, but every person I know to get back to their front door, every person I know that wakes up in their bed the following day with a few sore muscles. Yes, it's a seven, it's an eight, more often than not a nine, a 10. Thank you. I felt alive. I am not afraid of, as afraid of dying as I am afraid of not living.

• 1:12:45Ed Mylett?

  Oh, my gosh, Colin. Again, I just have to tell you, I'm so grateful I'm sharing this time with you, brother.

• 1:12:50Colin O'Brady?

  You like. I feel the exact same, man.

• 1:12:52Ed Mylett?

  Brother, like when you're talking, I think about this thing I say often, which is extremity expands capacity. When you do something to what you think is an extreme, you expand your capacity to do extreme things, even if they don't seem very significant to you. And then I think about, this might be an ironic thing. I just wanted to tell you when I was prepping. But take this the right way. And I know that I just say it the way I mean it. I don't, no grain of salt. This is a dude who struggled to jump rope with some fire. Right? I know you're a college swimmer, but he joke and the same dude who couldn't jump rope with fire that almost ended his life. Is now doing world records across Antarctica, climbing peaks, doing the grand slam.

• 1:13:33Ed Mylett?

  So it's amazing. I think oftentimes we think, well, I'm not very good at something now, so I'll like never be good at it. Well, this is a dude who didn't even jump rope correctly when he was 22 years old. I know there was fire with it and all that. But then to think that same dude is now the dude shattering all these records that literally no physical living human being has ever done before is a dude who couldn't get the jump rope thing right when he's 22 in Thailand. Do you ever think about that? Like, that proves extremity expands capacity, right?

• 1:14:01Colin O'Brady?

  I'll go one step further, which is after the Antarctica crossing, I had a lot of doors open to me. There was so much press media, two billion media impressions. It's most widely viewed expedition in modern history. And of course, that's going to open some doors, right? And it was a beautiful experience, a beautiful moment in time that I'm deeply humbled and grateful for. We was able to build a very successful and lucrative series of businesses on the back of that, et cetera, et cetera. But I decide that Paris wants, what's your next expedition? And I get this idea to row a boat across Drake Passage. So a rowboat, tiny little rowboat. For people who don't know, Drake Pass is the most treacherous stretch of ocean in the entire world. So from the southern tip of South America, all the way to Antarctica, 750 miles. It's where the Atlantic, Pacific and Southern Ocean all converge.

• 1:14:45Colin O'Brady?

  And that convergence of those ocean currents creates like 40 foot waves and there's icebergs. It's freezing cold. I mean, it's insane. There's been a laundry list of thousands of boats that have shipwrecked in Drake Passage, but not just like a hundred years ago. 10 years ago, a cruise ship sunk in the middle of Drake Passage. Like that's how crazy, like that's a modern time cruise ship still sunk in Drake Passage. And I'm thinking, I'm going to get a couple of buddies and we're going to row a boat, no motor, no sail, 28 foot long, three foot wide, two feet off the water's edge. An open hole. So we're getting crashed the entire time. So I go to discuss Discovery Channel. It's like, I want to film your next thing, whatever it is, tell me what it is. And so I go to them and I say, well, my next thing is a rowboat crossing of Drake Passage. No one's ever done it. And they say, great, great, great.

• 1:15:29Colin O'Brady?

  They they they sign this big, you know, seven figure check to produce the whole thing and pay me, you know, whatever. Great, great, great. It's gonna be awesome. I'm leaving in three months. This is a pretty quick turnaround. And I finally, I feel all the paperwork sign, everything's styled, ready to go. I turn to the producers, my family knows this, but most people don't realize this. I'm rowing a boat across straight passes. That's great. And I said, but I got some one thing I gotta tell you. I've actually never rowed a boat anywhere. Come on, man. Anywhere. Literally, not at summer camp, not at, not. Oh, my gosh. Come on, dude. Not at, you know, not in college, not at, not like ever. I've, I've never. And then I've also not spent, you know, it's like I'm a sailor. So I don't know like everything about ocean and sea.

• 1:16:12Colin O'Brady?

  I, this is a one hundred percent fully unfamiliar thing. That's. The thing that's not unfamiliar is pushing my body. Right. Or pushing my mind or taking on big goals or things of that nature. But I have literally never rode a boat anywhere ever. And so I reach out to a buddy of mine who's a rowing coach in Portland, Oregon, where I grew up. And I said, I need you to come meet me down at these, this dock and teach me a little bit about rowing. And so he's like, yeah, sure. And I kind of explained the whole thing. He thinks you're out of your freaking mind. Maybe five years from now, when are you doing this? I said, well, I'm leaving in three months. And so he gets me on this one man's single rowing school. You maybe have seen people do that or pictures of it or whatever. And I get in there, I'm in six inches of water on the dock.

• 1:16:56Colin O'Brady?

  I try to take my first stroke and I fall flat on my face. I literally fall out of the boat and I'm like flailing around in six inches of water. And I stand up soaking wet. And this is that moment where you go like, either I am an idiot. And of course, this is an extreme example. I, I'm never going to be a rower. But here's the thing. I said to him, I look at him and I go, well, I guess I'm not a rower. But one word changes that. I guess I'm not a rower yet. Yet, I'm not a rower yet. We've got three months for that. And that is everything, right? We talk about that is it. I'm not whatever you are right now, no matter what age you are,

• 1:17:40Colin O'Brady?

  you're listening to this podcast, wherever you are, your hopes, your dreams, your Mount Everest, what's your Everest, you haven't reached the summit of your Mount Everest yet. Here's the thing, Kobe Bryant had to shoot his first hoop at some point. Stephen King had to sit down and write the first paragraph of his first novel before he could write 65 of the bestselling books of all time. Meryl Streep had to try out for her school play. All of these people were not at the top of their game when they came out of the womb. But at some point, they chose to say in their identity, in their own confidence, in their own strength, in the story that they are writing about themselves, I am not this yet, but I can be and become anything I set my mind to.

• 1:18:22Colin O'Brady?

  And three months later, I became the first person in history to row a boat successfully across the most stretchy ocean in the world. You can see the documentary Discovery Plus, as it's called, The Impossible Row. If you want to see me get bashed around in some crazy ass situation in the middle of the ocean. But we can be and become anything we set our minds to.

• 1:18:40Ed Mylett?

  That's just unbelievable. And the way you tell a story and weave in the point, it's just so freaking good. I really do believe this too. The people that I know that are the most happy and successful, or just one or the other, have a lower threshold of how good or how prepared they think they have to be before they actually start something. And the people that aren't very happy, or that aren't very successful, have this massive threshold of what they think they have to know to just begin. And so they don't begin to your point. Now that is rather mind blowing. It's like Rob O'Neill was on my show, Kill Bin Laden. He couldn't even, he didn't know how to swim weeks before becoming a Navy SEAL. Then I have you on, and you're telling me I've

• 1:19:22Ed Mylett?

  never rowed a boat, and you're doing something that freaking bananas. Just it just, it just blows my mind, bro. I've reached the same conclusions you have, yet I have this vast toolbox of tools that I still use because God's put those people in my life that have given me those tools. But ultimately, for me,

• 1:19:42Ed Mylett?

  Those aren't the final answer. There are steps that may get me in a position where I'm more ready to receive something, but the final answer is I've come to the same answer you have. I'm gonna ask you some hard stuff now, though.

• 1:19:52Granger Smith?

  Yeah, let's go.

• 1:19:54Ed Mylett?

  Not that what we haven't already covered this hard, but I'm gonna push you on it. The slideshow, does that mean it never comes back again? Or does that mean that you've got some peace and comfort when stress, guilt, shame does repeat itself? Because for me, you and I just share the same belief system, so I'm just gonna say it in our language, everybody can do whatever, take whatever they want, but like the adversary still attacks. The adversary still is trying to get you.

• 1:20:15Granger Smith?

  Yep.

• 1:20:15Ed Mylett?

  So for me, my peace and comfort comes from there as well, but I haven't escaped it entirely, meaning in my own case, the slideshows of my life have reappeared, in my case, but that I know where I go for comfort and peace when it does reappear. Does that mean for you that at that day, you've never had another slideshow? You've never had another feeling of guilt or shame? Or does it still resurface from time to time?

• 1:20:42Granger Smith?

  Yeah, I could answer that. That day wasn't the end of the slideshow.

• 1:20:47Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 1:20:47Granger Smith?

  But I wasn't ready yet. That was the beginning of the journey of who is this guy, Jesus?

• 1:20:53Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 1:20:54Granger Smith?

  The guy that I called out to, just instinctively, because that's what kids in America do. But who was he really? That began that journey, and so I still had the slideshow, but things really changed for me March 1st, 2020. That's when the slideshow drastically changed. And so to answer your question, I do still see the slideshow, even today, but it has lost its sting.

• 1:21:18Ed Mylett?

  Lost its power over you.

• 1:21:19Granger Smith?

  It does not have its power over me.

• 1:21:20Ed Mylett?

  Yeah. What happened on March of 2020?

• 1:21:24Granger Smith?

  During that journey, from December to March, the first thing I thought was, I need a preacher. You know, I don't really know. See, I'm a guy, I'm a country music guy, traveling on the weekends. I didn't really go to church. Sure. Besides, as a kid, I didn't have any consistency in church ever. So I thought, well, I need a preacher. First one I thought of was Billy Graham. That's the first name that came to my mind. I don't really know him personally at all, but hey, I've heard of this guy. Looked him up, found out YouTube has a plethora of Billy Graham videos, started just watching it. And it had an effect on me. It's like, I dig this. I dig this guy. I like what he's saying. He was pouring the gospel all over these stadiums worldwide for decades.

• 1:22:08Granger Smith?

  And it was having an effect on me so much that I started replacing some of the self-help audiobooks I was listening to in my truck. I was like, well, instead of finishing that book, I'll trade it in for another Billy Graham classic sermon. People thought I was crazy. Really? They were like, what are you doing, man? You're driving in your pickup truck in Texas, windows down with a Billy Graham sermon playing? That's bizarre, man. One day, one of my friends goes, hey, I got some more stuff for you. There's some deeper stuff. Like, there's this pastor named John Piper. He's deeper, but he's super intense, very passionate. My wife is at a conference with him right now as we speak. As we're sitting here? Yeah. She loves him because his words saved her husband, you know?

• 1:22:52Granger Smith?

  So that's why she has an attachment to him. But I liked this guy, John. I liked his rhythm. I liked his intensity and his passion, his articulation of the gospel specifically, what's going on? What's the mechanics of what's changing within a man when he hears these words? John was good at articulating that. And it goes down to this one sermon randomly popped up on my algorithm on March 1st, 2020, driving in my truck. County road in Texas. I remember everything about that morning, my hands on the steering wheel, the feel of the accelerator in my foot. I mean, I felt, I knew, I know what that moment was like when he was reading out of John 14. And he said this, he said, Piper's reading, right?

• 1:23:36Granger Smith?

  And the disciple asked Jesus, Lord, why is it that you manifest yourself to us, the disciples, but not to the rest of the world? Jesus answered him, if anyone loves me, he will keep my word. And my father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. There's a pause. Pastor Piper comes in and he says, "That's not unconditional love. That is profoundly conditional." Boom, it hit me. He reads it again. "If anyone loves me, he will keep my word and my father will love him in a way that he doesn't love everybody." I thought, "Oh, man." It hit me like a ton of bricks.

• 1:24:19Granger Smith?

  Not that I needed, he wasn't saying, "If you want me to love you, then you keep my word and earn it." He wasn't saying that. He was saying, "There's people that I love, that I will save, redeem, restore, forgive, and you could tell those people, because those are the ones that keep my word." And I thought, "What's his word? I don't know it. I don't know all of it." So I went home, like all in that moment, I knew, I knew in that, that bus in Boise, Idaho, that I was redeemed, that I was saved, I was restored, I was adopted as a son. And yet, as a gratitude and humility and a response to that, I wasn't doing what he asked me to do.

• 1:25:00Granger Smith?

  So I went home and I told Amber, I said, "We're gonna read the Bible." Not, not a devotional, not something that, that commentates it, but we're just gonna go to the Word itself. We'll start, I don't know, where's a good place to start? Maybe the birth of Christ, Matthew 1. Let's just start there. And she goes, "Okay, I'm in." I mean, we literally-

• 1:25:20Ed Mylett?

  You read the whole Bible too, didn't you?

• 1:25:21Granger Smith?

  Yeah, I mean, we literally knocked the dust off of these Bibles that we hadn't really touched, calling ourselves Christians. The way I got in there and seeing, reading the Bible in its entirety and truly digesting it is how we learn who God is. In the same way that you know your son because you spend a lot of time with him. So much so that if you go to a restaurant tomorrow and your son's not with you, you'll go, "I know what my son would like, I know what he would order, I know what he would not like, I know what girl he think would be cute, I know, I know what kind of car he likes." You know him, you've spent so much time with him. So as we read the Bible, we start to learn who God is.

• 1:26:04Granger Smith?

  When we learn who God is, is this sovereign, providential king, then we go, "Oh."

• 1:26:11Granger Smith?

  I could surrender to that, not in a weakness type of way, not in a passive way. But I'm going, God, all my strength that you have given me, I hand it to you and I trust you. I follow you and there is power in a man when he learns that kind of surrender. There is confidence, the shame, the guilt, the slideshow, lost its sting.

• 1:26:32Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, brother, I gotta just tell you something, having known you before this and seeing you now. By the way, it's not like this is like a 30 year journey for this man. Like this, this is the last few years, like the Holy Spirit's all over you. The way, these aren't your words, these are, like, it's so awesome to be like, for me, it's so awesome to see God's greatness pouring through you, like, there's evidence right in front of me. This is a dude who was playing beautiful music three or four years ago. And the truth is really like, most of these thoughts and words weren't within this man at that time. And now they're just coming out of you. I, I think so many people use guilt and shame as a weapon against themselves over and over again.

• 1:27:16Ed Mylett?

  And they're trying to somehow grab some strategy or tool to somehow rectify this pattern that they've repeated millions of times over and over and over, whether it be the slideshow or the way they speak to themselves or all these other things. And a lot of the things we teach here, by the way, in this space, when I say here as if I own it and I don't, are incredibly valuable things. It'd be like saying that you shouldn't eat the food and the plants that God's planted in our lives. You're supposed to consume these good things. But if you don't understand the source of where they come from, the real source, when you really need an answer, there's gonna be a time where you reach that place in your life where you're just like, it's not enough. It just doesn't work. I can't go to that thing again, that trigger, that anchor.

• 1:28:00Ed Mylett?

  It just, it doesn't do what I need it to do. And I'm loving the way that, also that you phrase this because it's interesting.

• 1:28:10Ed Mylett?

  You actually take away many of the objections most people have, probably unknowingly about these things. Like for me, I'll just, we'll just both plug different things. Like for me, I'm a little bit cerebral. My surround surprise people since my IQ is not that high. But I needed to see some like evidentiary stuff. So like Lee Strobel's work, The Case for Christ, had a big profound effect on me, right? And I've also tried to surround myself in my life with people that are more knowledgeable about God's word than I am as I work on it. To help me answer questions when I read something or when I navigate a situation. And God's put those people in my life also, but those people aren't my answer. Those tools aren't my answer.

• 1:28:53Ed Mylett?

  Men will eventually probably let you down and things of this world will probably eventually let you down. But in my case, Jesus never has, ever. And he can take purpose through your pain. You talk about this in the book, which we might as well get into a little bit right now. That you say there's really, you reference two things about pain. One is that it's temporary, I believe. You say that in the, I'm just, by the way, the book made such an impact on me. I can like picture the pages right now as I'm reading it. I want you to talk a little bit about that. Like now we found where your answer is. And by the way, you know, when I want to go here first, you're so, so committed to what you've just discussed. Most people may not know this yet, but like he's completely devoted his life to do this.

• 1:29:38Ed Mylett?

  So tell them what you're kind of really not doing anymore. Cause it's not like a little thing, right? Like you've made a massive commitment. So if you're wondering like, hey, this is really interesting words this guy's got. Wow, really cool. I just felt really motivated and I'm going to pick my Bible up. Hmm, so a lot more than that. So tell them what you've decided to do with your life as a commitment towards what you just described. This is, this may be a surprise for some people that I've been paying attention.

• 1:30:04Granger Smith?

  In, in the book of Matthew, chapter 13, verse 44.

• 1:30:09Ed Mylett?

  My gosh, go ahead.

• 1:30:11Granger Smith?

  Hey, I gotta ground myself in the truth first. Jesus is talking, it's parable and he says, "The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and covers up. Then in his joy, he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field." So this is where I'm living right now. I'm living in a moment where I found this treasure.

• 1:30:37Granger Smith?

  The ultimate value. And I'm going, man, I found this treasure. And I want to, I want to own this treasure so much so that I want to show everyone else this treasure. Now, there's a word that we can't miss in that parable, and it's joy. Then in his joy, he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field. Because you're, if you don't feel that joy, you're not feeling it right.

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