Iran Knows America Is Running Out of Missiles | EYES ON GEOPOLITICS

We break down the latest phase of the U. S.-Iran war, from dwindling interceptor stockpiles and the fight over the Strait of Hormuz to Iran’s nuclear leverage and the limits of American military power. We also examine Ukraine’s attacks on Russian supply ships bound for Iran, growing anger across the Middle East, and whether smarter sanctions, covert action, and diplomacy can still bring the war to an end. Support the show on Patreon:⬇️ https://www.patreon.com/TheTeamHouse Subscribe to our newsletter!!!! https://teamhousepodcast.kit.com/join Jack's news outlet:⬇️ https://thehighside.substack.com/ Find Jon Hackett here:⬇️ Jon's Twitter: https://x.com/jonathanhackett Jon's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thejonathanhackett Jon's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0C5L659N5?ccs_id=e11a2062-f8d3-498e-bfd7-7d2f3869caf6 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thejonathanhackett Twitter: https://x.com/jonathanhackett Check out Mick's new podcast here:⬇️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/pub-and-porch-applied-stoicism/id1836955475 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1k3QPmkAMwnGJxMLDwUSSd?si=n6piIu8XRcag1Z0K43A3bQ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@UCd0Hq6QFk8CoTu5j-VU0Ong Find Mick Mulroy here: Fogbow ⬇️ https://fogbow.com/ Lobo Institute ⬇️ https://www.loboinstitute.org/ Twitter ⬇️ https://x.com/mickmulroy?s=21&t=-Ze3F_Ix2vlJ18KFvORTCA LinkedIn ⬇️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-patrick-mulroy-31198b52/ Whitefish security summit ⬇️ https://whitefishsecuritysummit.com Find Marc P here: https://x.com/Mpolymer Find Andy Milburn here: Twitter ⬇️ https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Fandymilburn8 LinkedIn ⬇️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewmilburn2023 Substack ⬇️ https://amilburn.substack.com/ Andy’s book ⬇️ https://www.amazon.com/When-Tempest-Gathers-Mogadishu-Operations "Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio" 00:00 – Start 02:20 – Can the United States Still Win This War? 05:29 – The Nightmare of Attacking Pickaxe Mountain 09:02 – Why Military Force Cannot Reopen the Strait of Hormuz 11:08 – Strangling the IRGC’s Money and Supply Lines 13:31 – America’s Dangerous Missile and Munitions Shortage 17:53 – Iran Wants a Nuclear Weapon—and Holds the Leverage 22:53 – Risking American Pilots as Advanced Weapons Run Low 25:15 – How the Midterms Could Decide the Iran War 27:49 – Anger and Anxiety Across the Middle East 32:22 – The Confusing US–Saudi Nuclear Agreement 40:36 – Dysfunction Inside the National Security Process 46:05 – Ukraine Attacks Russian Supply Ships Bound for Iran 48:13 – A Smarter Strategy for Breaking the Iranian Regime 56:13 – Inside Andy Milburn’s New Book on the Gaza War Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss.

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• 0:58Speaker 04

  Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Eyes on Geopolitics. I'm here with Mark Polymoropoulos, Andy Milburn, Mick Mulroy. Lot happening as usual.

• 1:09Speaker 04

  Iran is the big news, Iran, US.

• 1:13Speaker 04

  The last two weeks, 13 consecutive nights of strikes against Iranian targets. Iranians have been shooting missiles and drones at our bases in the region. And the Houthis also got involved in this now, too. They started bombing a couple of Saudi targets.

• 1:31Speaker 04

  It's interesting, on Friday, there was a pause, obviously.

• 1:35Speaker 04

  There is word that there is talk, they're trying to work out something diplomatically. There was something today, I just saw Mick reposted it, actually, that somebody took out a huge position that shorting oil, basically, you know, thinking that oil is going to tank when the market opens.

• 1:52Speaker 04

  So there's that. God knows. And I read that tweet, Mick, it said Axios link. So I don't know what that means. Like, does that mean Axios guy? It's a link to the, to the, somebody at the website, at the news organization? I don't know. But somebody took out a huge position. Iran came out as well, saying that, like, we're, you know. Oh, forget that. The big question, thing was to Iran, Ukraine hit some Russian tankers or Russian, like, ships that were supposedly bringing supplies to Iran from Russia. So we have, like, this melding of both wars, kind of going into it.

• 2:33Speaker 04

  This week, a lot of dignitaries are coming from other countries. I think it's supposedly for Lindsey Graham's funeral, but Zelensky is going to be here next, this week coming up. Netanyahu is going to be here this coming up. So there's a lot happening. And it looks like maybe there's going to be another pause, possibly, or another MOU or something before shit hits the fan. But, I mean, it will, time will tell if Iran starts letting people go through the Strait of Hormuz on her ass or not. And, you know, that obviously will dictate terms of this. So I don't know where you guys are at, where you guys are tracking. Let's go with Mark P. first.

• 3:12Speaker 05

  First of all, Dee, I want to say that the Red Sox are back in the hunt. Your New York teams, the Yankees, are nervous now. I know you're a Mets fan and Juan Soto is out.

• 3:22Speaker 04

  I'm a Yankees fan.

• 3:23Speaker 05

  You're a Yankee fan, all right.

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  Yeah, I hate the Red Sox, and you.

• 3:26Speaker 05

  I was up at, I was up at Fenway. Awesome vibes, you guys are screwed. Red Sox will win the World Series. Moving on to less important things. No, one of really interesting things, and I know we're going to jump into it, has to do with all the reporting. I think the New York Times led with this about the US stocks and interceptors, and frankly, how Chairman of Joint Chiefs perhaps gave some advice to Trump in the White House, saying that, you know, some type of, of major escalation would not be wise right now because of this. But I think, and so that is an issue. It's something we should discuss, but in some ways, I think it actually hides a bigger issue is what actually can be done militarily whatsoever?

• 4:09Speaker 05

  You know, is there a military option and one that, actually, that one that's feasible? That doesn't involve, you know, New York Post had a story today, and I don't know if this is projection or not, I sent it to you guys that, you know, about, about a US Special Operations Command mission to, to go after Pickaxe Mountain. This would take, entail thousands of troops. I don't know if this is what they're advocating or not, but there's a whole bunch of options that are so politically unpalatable that would involve ground forces, that I don't think that's even on the table. So the real question is, what can be done via air whatsoever? I mean, is there actually a strategy in which the US could militarily, within, within the parameters of no ground troops, you know, force the Iranians to the table?

• 4:53Speaker 05

  And I think there's a lot of people now who are saying, no, actually, this is, and it's almost a question, I hate to even say this, this goes against what Mick says all the time, and I agree with it, you know, you know, our goal is to win somehow. So can we, is the question? Is there a military option? Because if the answer is no, then the diplomatic option is Iran's going to get the Strait of Hormuz, because then they know they have the leverage over us. And so if you're kind of looking at it, the kind of the geostrategic sense, or in terms of strategy, you know, we all can be critics, and we certainly, I certainly have been, but I'm not sure what the option is. Is there a good option that's left here? And that's the big dilemma. As Mick, I think, Andy, you might have said it before, there's no magic bullet, there's no, you know, there's, there's no solution just hanging out there that, boy, we should really be doing this.

• 5:37Speaker 05

  Because I think if, if there, you know, that would have been on the table already. So bit of a, bit of a pickle we're in. And, you know, again, it's easy for us to criticize, we're good at that. But if, the whole point is, if you're, if you're in the chair, I'm not actually sure what we should do right now. And that's quite, probably, I think, for the, all, all four of us here, that's in, in an unusual position. You know, we're stuck here.

• 6:01Speaker 05

  And I hate to be in that position. I hate to even say that.

• 6:03Speaker 04

  Andy, let me get your take on, like, we talked about it a bit last week, about what other military options there possibly could be, you know?

• 6:17Speaker 06

  Yeah, I'm, you know, just saying that the military options are very limited doesn't mean that there's nothing that the US can do necessarily.

• 6:32Speaker 06

  But I'm, I'm intrigued by, first of all, I'm not surprised, but I am, I am as near as it comes to being surprised, that the President already announced that, quote, the United States is going to go after Pickaxe Mountain next. I suppose it's the trendy name, perhaps, that, that caught his attention. But it's kind of interesting. So he's announced, one of the problems, you know, backtrack a little bit, I'm answering your question, Dee, there's very little militarily that can be done, okay?

• 7:12Speaker 06

  There's just more of the same.

• 7:15Speaker 06

  And if going after Iran's nuclear program, even if we have the bunker busters lined up, even if we conduct a really extraordinarily successful strike, I doubt, I, I just don't think that the, the, if the Iranians, if the Iranians are half as crafty as they've shown so far, their nuclear program is beyond reach. I mean, I, it's, it was always Midnight Hammer, or whatever the plan was, was always a long shot. And it became increasingly, not always a long shot, to begin with, when that plan was

• 7:59Speaker 06

  developed, it wasn't such a long shot. But there were, but there were political reasons, right, why it wasn't being carried out. And for a longest time, the US was in the position of trying to dissuade Israel from conducting those strikes. And by the way, one of the downsides of that, and this is open source, but, so I can talk about it now, one of the downsides that was always, always prevalent, and it was front and center when planners were talking about it, was the fact that Iran would close the Straits of Hormuz, and the effect, knock on effect on the global economy. Number two was even, even when we thought the nuclear program was, was vulnerable to

• 8:43Speaker 06

  the use of, you know, bunker busters and, and US strike, it, we knew that the most we could do was send it back, okay? That doesn't mean just posturing and throwing out bullshit. I mean, those were always assumptions made by planners. And again, I'm not saying anything that's classified now, it's all open source. So now, after we've launched Midnight Hammer, after we have conducted weeks and weeks and weeks of strikes, and we have announced, announced that we're going after the remnants of their nuclear program, do you think the Iranians haven't done something already? You know, put those centrifuges out of reach, disperse the enriched uranium?

• 9:26Speaker 06

  I mean, it would be remarkably stupid if they hadn't done that. And I think whatever you say of the Iranians, the one thing you really can't call them is stupid.

• 9:36Speaker 06

  You know, there's that, and then there's all the other reasons that we talked about, why cranking up military force is unlikely to achieve. You know, we've already reached the law of diminishing returns. We, we talked about why missile launches are hard to hit. We've talked about why mines, drones are also hard to go after, and even the small boat problem, those are the real risks. And meanwhile, we're seeing Iran ramp up pressure on other countries in the region, notably Saudi Arabia, right? Attacking Jizan, the Houthis attacking Jizan, and a Saudi tanker exploded. And that's, you know, the, that's what the Saudis say, exploded in the Gulf after hitting

• 10:20Speaker 06

  a, after hitting a mine. So sorry for the lengthy answer. Militarily, I just don't, you know, I've been reading all the, the trash talk on social media, but cranking it up and cranking it up doesn't really promise much in, in terms of returns. Last thing I'll say, even if, even if, as we've said on this, on this program, is we, that the US forces its way.

• 10:51Speaker 06

  To escort, I mean, it continuously forces armed escort of tankers through the Gulf. The problem is, the problem is still there. And the problem is that fact, you're dealing with commercial vessels. Insurance rates are always going to be high as long until Iran agrees not to strike them. So how, I guess the question to answer is, how do you crank up pressure on Iran to bring Iran to the negotiation table? And it doesn't look like pure military pressure is working. There probably has to be a carrot.

• 11:23Speaker 06

  I'll leave with a question. Maybe, maybe there are things that can be done in, in other areas. Okay, maybe a combination of cyber and I'll defer to my CIA colleagues. Maybe Title 50 type stuff, right? I don't know. That's, that's a question for you guys.

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• 12:24Speaker 05

  Mick being the Title 50 King that you are.

• 12:29Speaker 05

  What's, what are your thoughts?

• 12:31Speaker 06

  They call him Title 50, Title 50 Nicky.

• 12:34Speaker 07

  Yeah. So I'll get back to the Title 50 stuff, but I'd start, obviously to Mark's point. We got to come out of this successfully.

• 12:47Speaker 07

  And there's no easy path toward it, but I'm gearing everything that I'm going to comment on, on that. So obviously the Strait of Hormuz is, is the main issue right now, and that wasn't the issue before the war started. But to that point, we saw this massive flow of assets to the region. We saw the president talk about, you know, it's going to be bigger than any than we've seen so far, including epic fury.

• 13:16Speaker 07

  I was thinking that the point was to try to go after targets that could

• 13:23Speaker 07

  essentially start strangling the IRGC of the funding they need to keep in operations. Right? The only thing that really matters to them is their money. So the blockade is doing that with the naval blockade. I would, I was assuming that we were going to go after ground targets like railroads, bridges, things that they,

• 13:44Speaker 07

  transportation hubs that they need to be able to transfer their energy out by other means. And of course, get armaments in to keep the fight going.

• 13:54Speaker 07

  That still might be the case, but that seemed to make sense to me. But I would agree that military action alone, it's not going to do it. And I think we've seen reporting from Mark and my old organization and the DIA that said as such that we could expend a lot more munitions, but it's unlikely to change perspective of the IRGC. So the military is not the end all be all. We have the best in the world, but we need to stop relying on it as if it can just change everything. It's a part of it. It could go after these targets and I think further isolate the regime. But it's important to point out that's going to take time. So, and it's not, it's not something that we all think is accurate. As far as why it was called off.

• 14:40Speaker 07

  If it was like the, I think it was the New York Times who reported that vice president and chairman went over there and explained the interceptor situation, you know, the PAC3s that, all the interceptors that we use to stop attacks against us and our allies. I mean, they knew that while they were doing the buildup. So I don't know that's accurate. I mean, obviously the military is not like, oh, wait a minute, we don't have enough. This is something they knew. If they stopped because of that, then, then certainly that's a fair reason. That brings up a whole other discussion that we could have another episode on is we are fighting a regional war with a second tier adversary, and we were having a damn hard time keeping up with production, defense production. That's a big problem. It's not a political statement.

• 15:25Speaker 07

  This is a big problem for the United States. We need to, we need to just fix this, right? Can you imagine if we're fighting an air period competitor?

• 15:35Speaker 07

  Can you imagine if we actually had ground forces right now? Which means you're going to expend a lot more precision munitions and, and protective munitions. So that's a big issue, but if that's what caused this, what I'm concerned about is this was somewhat of a bluff. And now the Iranians know it was a bluff. And now the, the chances of negotiations now get harder because they feel like they're in the driver's seat. Don't know if it was, but if it was, that's problematic. Because the Iranians already think they're, have all the leverage now with the Strait of Hormuz, potentially the Bab al-Mandeb with the Houthis.

• 16:09Speaker 07

  That's going to increase the pressure. So how do we get the Strait of Hormuz open? Well, I, I don't remember which member of the government came out and said they, but they did come out and said yesterday, they made $18 billion this year on the sale of their oil. So it's 60% of what they normally sell in a year, which is unacceptable. Right? I don't know if it's true. I'm sure our intelligence community is going to look at it and find out if it is. One, the pressure we're trying to exert on the regime isn't working if they can sell this much. Because if they can sell that much, fund 60% of what they normally do, and the year's not over. That's not enough pressure at all. So we need to

• 16:53Speaker 07

  do everything we can to build an international coalition, further sanctions, enforce secondary sanctions, find IRGC commercial infrastructure all around the world that exists, freeze assets. I, I know there's people that know these things, so I'm sure I'm not, it's not a revelation to anybody in the government right now. But if they're really making $18 billion a year, then this economic isolation isn't going to work unless we change that. And it's not just from the blockade.

• 17:22Speaker 07

  So how do you, how do you change, how do you change this? In addition to that, I think it's being very specific on targets and we might have to ride, ride this out. I don't see how the United States just accepts the Strait of Hormuz is now the sovereign property of Iran. And we have done, other than Midnight Hammer, which did do a lot to degrade the nuclear program. From then on, we haven't really done much to degrade it. Pick act mountain. I think the issue is our munitions simply won't penetrate it. I don't know that to be the case. I've been out of government a long time, but obviously that's the biggest speculation. It's 300 feet of solid granite. Even our, you know, GBU 57 alphas.

• 18:07Speaker 07

  I don't think they can reach that deep unless something else is changed. If they would, we've already hit it. So there you go. So that's why they're talking about a ground operation. That would be the most, I think, most complex special operations mission I've ever heard of. Because it would be, I think, Mark and or Andy said it, it would be potentially weeks on the ground. I don't know.

• 18:27Speaker 07

  And it would be, and it's in the middle of the country, right? It's right near Natanz. It's right in the middle of the country. They would mobilize tens of thousands of troops. And of course, they would be nonstop bombarding of forces. It is intact, so that would be at least a better scenario than some of the facilities that are destroyed. But I just don't see that happening. It's already an unpopular war and this would cause casualties. And it's unclear to me what is actually in there.

• 18:56Speaker 07

  So we're going to have to figure out a way to, to get them to change their perspective. It's going to take building an international coalition and unfortunately it's going to take time.

• 19:07Speaker 07

  And there's no guarantee, but the alternative is the US calls it quits. And that's a strategic, I mean, nobody can spin us out of that. If Iran's, and now there's reporting that, and you can make, you can see why this would be the case, that the new supreme leader wants a nuclear weapon. Right? So now we have a scenario where they want a nuclear weapon. They're not interested in no enrichment and they're not interested in giving up the strait. So I would suggest, one, making this more of a bipartisan issue, engaging Congress, talking to the committees, coming up with ideas, reaching out, international coalition. You could say, well, why would they join now?

• 19:52Speaker 07

  Well, because this isn't really just about the United States, right? You can disagree with the war, but this have an impact on your citizens. Right? They're paying more for gas, they're paying more for food. You, whatever country you are, shouldn't accept another country simply taking over one of the key eight waterways in the world that making money off. So I know that's easier said than done for all the above, but we are in a, in a very difficult situation. The last thing I'd say, if they wanted to make this point, I'm pretty sure it's going to be fixed probably before we wake up tomorrow. But put the four that were killed back on the list of those that were killed in action. They were literally killed by enemy action.

• 20:35Speaker 07

  So the idea that it was somehow in a ceasefire is just nonsensical. It's not fair. It's not respectful to those service members and families. They say it was a glitch. I'm not saying it wasn't. But instead of talking about it a lot, just fix it and apologize for the glitch. Just wanted to put that in there.

• 20:54Speaker 05

  They say it's a glitch, but it's been days now of this. So are they, does it not work on the weekend? I mean, it seems to me this is now deliberate.

• 21:02Speaker 07

  Fix it. It's, uh, it's disrespectful for those who.

• 21:06Speaker 05

  I agree.

• 21:07Speaker 07

  I mean, we're killed by enemy fire. Three of them were killed by direct enemy fire. The other one was killed because of enemy fire, uh, you know, the Shahid drone they, they were trying to exploit. All of that is killed in the line of duty, in action, in combat.

• 21:23Speaker 05

  I think Mick, on a couple of your points, I agree with you. The only problem is I don't think it's going to happen because the Trump administration, it's not possible. There is no dialogue with Democrats on this. There is no bipartisan, in fact, there's total war with the Democrats on this. So I don't think they have it in their ability to reach across the aisle. And the Democrats actually are not in any position to accommodate the White House as well. So I don't think that's going to happen. And on the international coalition, it's the same thing. You know, our inability to make nice with our allies, you know, negates this even being a possibility. And when, I think the British did announce the other day that, you know, there would be some more talks and more discussion and perhaps even planning for some kind of joint maritime mission. But the problem is, they then say it'll only happen when the war is over.

• 22:08Speaker 05

  So while those are the right things to do, I just don't think the Trump administration, just because there is such hostility on both sides of the aisle and there's an inability to do anything with our allies, I just don't think it's going to happen. And so, again, it's, so

• 22:24Speaker 07

  It's a fair point.

• 22:25Speaker 05

  Possible, or, you know, and we can advocate, and I think you're right to say that this is what we should do. I just don't think that that's in the wheelhouse of the Trump administration to take those kind of steps. They've shown no inclination to do this in the past. And so that's what concerns me. I think you're right in what this is the right thing. I just don't think it's going to happen.

• 22:48Speaker 07

  I think that's a fair point. And what I'm advocating for is not just a big discussion, but it's like legislation. Like, what are we going to do to reinforce sanctions, secondary sanctions? I mean, they're talking about it because they're putting it in the bill that Senator, the late Senator Lindsey Graham, you know, has on Russia. And now we can see they're connected. I mean, we can go into that, but, I mean, I do get your point. It's easy to say these things, whether they happen or not, it's another thing. But there is actual things that people in Congress can do.

• 23:17Speaker 05

  Should be done, yeah.

• 23:17Speaker 07

  To put the pressure on Iran. And if they do it in a bipartisan way, that would send a message to Iran, who right now is trying to leverage the fissures. They're trying to leverage the upcoming election, right? So it doesn't mean that all the Democrats have to now agree that the war is a good idea, but they can't agree that we need to change the perspective so that America comes out successful on this. And that's not happening. And maybe it's because nobody's asked, but it would be good to the extent that that actually has an impact, and I think it could, on, there's several, like, legislative initiatives on Iran trying to increase economic pressure.

• 23:59Speaker 07

  Like, let's talk about all of them and see if we can't start getting something moving. Not only would it help, again, it will take time, but it does send the right message to Iran that we're, that we are more unified than they would like, which right now we're not.

• 24:16Speaker 05

  Hey, can I, can I ask one quick thing here? And this is actually, I was excited to talk to you guys today on this. I got a note from a former pilot, and he was talking to me about this issue of ordinance and interceptors and everything. And he said, actually, and I'm not going to say who it is, but I'm going to read from this, but it was, it was nothing, it's the notion that we are running out of more advanced weaponry. We actually do have more smart bombs, more dumb bombs. There's dumb weapons, which would entail US aircraft getting closer, not the standoff strikes from B1s, et cetera. It would be closer range aircraft, you know, perhaps even launching from the Gulf, again, very risky. But there are, there are munitions out there that could be used.

• 24:59Speaker 05

  They're just not of the advanced type, which lowers the risk. And that's something that the administration is very, very worried about. Is that, does that sound consistent to you all?

• 25:09Speaker 07

  Yes, absolutely. I believe that's the case.

• 25:13Speaker 05

  Gotcha, okay, thanks.

• 25:14Speaker 07

  It just puts a pilot more, at more risk to use those munitions, but we have a lot of them.

• 25:19Speaker 05

  We do have them, yeah.

• 25:20Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 25:22Speaker 07

  Yeah. And then the other point on, I mean, if you hadn't figured out who's our enemy and who is our ally by now, and I'm baffled, but I think the highlighting that Russia is actually giving Iran targeting data to kill our service members and CIA officers, I think is something we all knew was happening. And now, I would hope that we take it seriously and respond accordingly. And it's a good thing that Ukraine's actually targeting ships that are on route to resupply Iran, to shoot at American service members. So just one more data point to know we should be on the side of Ukrainians and against Russia,

• 26:07Speaker 07

  and we need to make that abundantly clear. They are, they are purposefully helping Iran now kill American service members. And we knew it, but now I think we have more information that points to that.

• 26:21Speaker 07

  And the Chinese, right? I think they can see where their satellites are oriented. I think that's what's happening, and that's why people are like, well, obviously, they're, they're collecting information on the US military positions, including naval vessels.

• 26:38Speaker 05

  Do you guys think in some ways that all of this talk on foreign policy, we're missing a point, that everything that's going to happen in the war in Iran now is going to be geared to the US domestic audience and to the midterms? I mean, is that, so whether it's whatever the White House does or what the Democrats do, that really the midterms are the number one thing, period, end of story? And even the right courses of action, or if there were to be one, wouldn't even be considered because now it's just political, it's whoever's going to win in November? What do you all think of that notion? Because I'm actually starting to subscribe to that now.

• 27:10Speaker 07

  I think the Iranians subscribe to it.

• 27:12Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 27:12Speaker 07

  For sure. And they probably, it's going to have an impact. There's no doubt about it, it's a very unpopular war. It's more unpopular than like three years into the Iraq war, right?

• 27:22Speaker 05

  It's the most unpopular war in the history of wars.

• 27:25Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 27:25Speaker 04

  And polling.

• 27:27Speaker 05

  And polling.

• 27:27Speaker 07

  So I guess one thing, and it's not a good thing, but it, for all the leverage that the election has, there's going to be a day after the election.

• 27:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 27:39Speaker 07

  Right? So from the Iranian perspective, the thing's just all focused on that. Like, just make it so painful, well, whatever happens on election day happens. And then that leverage point goes away. So, and then, you know, President Trump, he doesn't have another election, and he, his party doesn't while he's in office. So that leverage point goes away. And so, what does that mean?

• 28:04Speaker 05

  I would, I would also say that the Democrats, if they take the House and the Senate, can make life exceedingly hard in terms of funding.

• 28:10Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah, yes.

• 28:12Speaker 05

  So, you know, this'll drive me crazy when I say this, and I, because, because, you know, I geek out on kind of Middle Eastern stuff and Israeli politics, but in Israel, there's, everyone says there's no such thing as Israeli foreign policy, it's only domestic policy. Now, it's a tiny little country, you understand why, but in some ways, you could say the same thing right now about, about the war in Iran. It is domestic policy, or domestic concerns that I think are going to dominate. So, I just have to

• 28:39Speaker 04

  I think it's understandably, understandably so why they should dominate. I mean, the Pentagon's asking for like an extra 80-plus billion dollars in, you know, ancillary funding for this, and there's no end in sight. And people are paying more money at the gas pump, more money at the grocery store. So it's very easily exploited politically. I mean, I can make, I can write you an ad right now, a political ad, you know, shitting on the Republicans for this. So, yeah, I think that's something to be considered, at least in a democracy, right?

• 29:12Speaker 05

  Can I ask Andy a quick question, just about, assuming Andy's out in, you know, somewhere outside of the country, perhaps in a region we know well, but just what are the attitudes of people on the street in the Middle East towards this, particularly the Gulf? I mean, sometimes, you know, we get asked questions, you know, what do the Gulf Arabs say? But that actually is a pretty giant conglomeration, and I think there are differences between the Emiratis and the Saudis and the Omanis, the Qataris. Can you kind of give a little background where you think that is now popular opinion or governments? They are taking the brunt of a lot of this stuff. And you now have, you know, I guess the reports are true of, you know, Kuwaiti and other Gulf Air Forces in the mix.

• 29:55Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's a great question. So, and there is a, there's a, the only, the two countries that I'm directly familiar with Saudi Arabia and Jordan, I've traveled frequently to Jordan in the last few weeks. I will say this, the Saudis are very guarded about what they think. I think it's part of Saudi culture. They are unfailingly courteous and very hesitant to criticize openly. I, but I, you know, obviously there's a good deal of frustration here and obviously has hurt their pocketbook. But, but for the average, they, you know, I mean, I, I'm not pretending to be able

• 30:39Speaker 06

  to read the Arab street, but for the average guy in the street, life kind of goes on here. For a number of reasons, you know, Saudi economy, the, the average person is, is somewhat insulated from, perhaps from what is going on. In Jordan, that is very different. In Jordan, if, when people find out you're American, I mean, there's not hostility, but they want to tell you how pissed off they are and tell you the stories about how it has ruined, you know, whatever it may be, the hotel you're staying in, the, even, you know, when I went to have my haircut, I, I, the guy should have tipped me for, for being the subject of his venting. But, I mean, and I understand it

• 31:24Speaker 06

  totally. I mean, it has, I, a part of it is the fact that, yes, for the other countries, Saudi Arabia, UAE, the economy is very dependent on fossil fuels and that has been affected. But,

• 31:38Speaker 06

  and it has particularly affected UAE too because of the expat community. Those of you who've been to Dubai, anytime in the last decade know that it's hard to, you know, you, you'll see the Emiratis are vastly outnumbered by expats. Well, the expats have fled from UAE and it doubtless has had a huge knock on effect of the economy there, but I couldn't tell you directly how the Emiratis are reacting. So in Saudi, very guarded. And, and there's no kind of open hostility, but definitely concern, especially with the, the attack on Jizan, the, the attempted attacks yesterday on oil

• 32:19Speaker 06

  refineries. Remember the Saudis, the, the Houthis delivered a successful attack against the Aramco facility a while ago, 2019. But the Saudis remember that. And, and also the fact that, of course, they're under direct squeeze of oil, you know, Straits of Hormuz, all cut off. The last thing, generally, a lot of concern about desalination plants. The, you know, if you look across the, I think we talked about this last time we were on air, but Gulf countries, Saudi Arabia to include it, Saudi Arabia probably less than the other Gulf countries. I think it varies

• 32:58Speaker 06

  between dependence on, on desalination plants for water, about 70% here in Saudi Arabia, that goes all the way up to 100% or 90 to 100% places like Kuwait and Bahrain. The Iranians announcing that they plan, you know, the next escalation plan is to go after desalination plants is causing a lot of concern. Back to Jordan though, tremendous, tremendous, like nothing. I, I mean, I've been visiting Jordan for, on and off for about 15 years and I've never, and, and normally they're really pro-American. That has changed, absolutely changed.

• 33:40Speaker 07

  Did they say, in Saudi, did they say anything about this nuclear agreement that was and then wasn't?

• 33:47Speaker 06

  No, you know, again, I think it's part of the culture, courtesy, they will talk about, they love talking about the World Cup, you know, I'm talking about colleagues and the Ministry of Defense. But, we're politely, you know, and we, and it's, the issues like that are not common conversation. But I will say this, if you watch Al-Arabia here and the state, there's tremendous amount of excitement, doubtless, you know, there's, there's a feeling that, you know, there's always kind of a feeling, I mean, everyone's proud of their countries here, right? And you said this, Saudis are proud to be Saudis. And there's always this feeling that they should be regional leaders,

• 34:32Speaker 06

  that they're not one of the Gulf states, you know, I mean, and, and so, this, this agreement about enrichment is, is very important to them. And it's not, you know, it's not about building the bomb, it's everything that it enables. The Saudis burned through a huge amount of fossil fuel in order to provide the energy that they provide. The deal gave UAE, has already given UAE the ability to produce half of their energy from, from nuclear power, which is, it's a tremendous improvement. So it's not, it's not about building the bomb, it's about particularly in Saudi Arabia,

• 35:17Speaker 06

  being, being able to align their means of energy production in line with MBS's transformation vision for 2030, which is, which it means to moving the Saudi economy away from relying solely on fossil fuels. I mean, that is, that is his stated objective. So being able to have an agreement to enrich uranium, that's why it's always been important to the Saudis.

• 35:47Speaker 07

  Well, I was pretty shocked. So that's one thing is, you know, I'm not saying it's end all be all, but I think Secretary Rubio should be more involved in all these negotiations and his team in general, because we've had one MOU that was so vague that it kind of fell apart as soon as it started. And then you had an agreement that I think took, from what I'm told, took months of really detailed negotiations, it fell apart after it was signed because of something that if it was a requirement in the first place, should have been identified, right? If, if it always required Saudi Arabia to join Abraham Accords.

• 36:25Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 36:27Speaker 07

  So maybe I'm missing something. Yeah.

• 36:30Speaker 06

  Okay, yeah, so that, so I, I, that's a non-starter. I can tell you that in Saudi Arabia.

• 36:38Speaker 07

  Right. So why, why was there all these negotiations and signing ceremonies and then, then that's popped on? So it just, and I bring that up obviously because it's problematic, but it's also problematic when it comes to ending the war through a negotiated process. We need to have a functional negotiation process that actually is really descriptive so that we know what we're getting into and we're actually agreeing to. If we have these things that start and stop, start and stop, it, I mean, from the, not that I care so much about the Iranian perspective, they might just like, look, it's not even worth the effort. And it is for us worth the effort, you know, we want this to end diplomatically. We don't want to see a major escalation.

• 37:23Speaker 05

  Don't you think they're stringing us along? I mean, they just, you know, they, so they show a little leg every once in a while, they, they act reasonable, whatever this, these recent proposals are, you know, the Omanis were there yesterday, I guess. And so, and Trump made some statements saying that, you know, there does seem to be progress. And so, I mean, they're just, they're masters at this. They're just, you know, this is just going to last forever. And they just want, they kind of, as, as the economic pain grows inside the United States. Back to this, the, the kind of the Saudi stuff, I mean, it is amazing to me that we took the single biggest carrot that we had with the Saudis, which is normalization with Israel. And we took that off the table for this nuclear deal, for the Saudi, the US Saudi nuclear deal. I mean, it is, you know, the, and

• 38:07Speaker 05

  of course, especially when there's likely going to be a change in the Israeli government in October, in which they can utter the words yes to a future Palestinian state without having Netanyahu's crazy coalition stopping that, you know, that would be something that would be really significant in the Middle East. But now we've just given them the nuclear deal, whatever Trump said afterwards, you know, because there was so much criticism of this. I mean, the one, that's something I think the Biden administration got right, the carrot for this US Saudi nuclear deal was Saudi joining Abraham Accords. If the Israelis could say the magical words about a Palestinian state, I mean, lots of moving parts. But we just botched that whole thing. And, and the dysfunction in the administration was such that Trump was pissed about it because the, I guess the US Energy

• 38:52Speaker 05

  Secretary didn't even tell the White House he's going to announce this. Again, this goes back to something we've talked about all the time about lack of planning.

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• 41:04Speaker 05

  National security process, there's no, you know, and whose job is that? It's Marco Rubio, the National Security Advisor.

• 41:11Speaker 07

  Yeah, but it can't be both. It can't be both, you know?

• 41:14Speaker 05

  Or the Secretary of State, whatever. But the idea that, I mean, this whole thing was just a go, rip. The Saudis are now, don't really understand what we're up to now. And I think there is some thought that, that the deal might go through anyhow. But that Trump was really covering his rear because of the criticism thrown his way. But again, we, you know, the idea of Saudi Arabia joining the Abraham. I'm, I've never been a fan of the Abraham Accords because it never addressed the Palestinian issue. I thought just because Israelis could go ski Dubai, you know, in Emirates, great place. I've been there, indoor skiing, that's wonderful. But it didn't solve a fundamental problem, especially since the countries that signed the Abraham Accords were never actually at war with Israel. But the, the notion of Israel Saudi rapprochement, signing the Abraham Accords with the Israelis formally

• 41:58Speaker 05

  saying something about a future state, that's a really big deal. And I think we blew all our leverage. And I didn't understand why we did that. That was diplomatic malpractice.

• 42:06Speaker 06

  Yeah, I mean, the agreement was signed on, I mean, it's already been signed, right? On, it was last week, 20, the 22nd.

• 42:17Speaker 06

  I think it's, I mean, it's fair to say it's not an immediate green light to enrich. I am, you know, it establishes this two-year US Saudi study, right? To determine whether domestic enrichment is, is practical. I mean, commercially viable, whether it's warranted.

• 42:38Speaker 06

  And then after that, then, so two years. I mean, anything could happen potentially in those two years, right? It could be a new administration.

• 42:50Speaker 06

  But nevertheless, it, it, it's a start and, and it has generated a good deal of excitement.

• 42:58Speaker 07

  So is it still in place? I thought President Trump came out and said it was over. Can't it? So not the case?

• 43:05Speaker 05

  Confusion.

• 43:07Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 43:08Speaker 05

  I mean, I'm sure the Saudis were not happy about Trump's statement saying it's all contingent in the Abraham Accords.

• 43:14Speaker 06

  Yeah, he, he did say, he said it was, he said it will be approved. And then he said, it's totally subject to Saudi Arabia joining the Abraham Accords. So I, who knows?

• 43:27Speaker 07

  They won't do it, so, all right.

• 43:29Speaker 05

  But again, that's the dysfunction. This doesn't happen if you have a functioning National Security Council. It just doesn't.

• 43:35Speaker 07

  Yes, we would have had that, that, that's a pretty big requirement, right? So it would have been discussed over and over and over again.

• 43:42Speaker 05

  And the right requirement, which was not in anything. The Saudis came out and then said, actually, this was not part of the requirement. Sorry. And it's binding. So who knows? It's, it's very frustrating.

• 43:53Speaker 07

  The JCPOA was binding too.

• 43:56Speaker 05

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• 44:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, the messaging is really tricky. I mean, you have the Energy Secretary coming out and there's the, the other side of the room, the, the other side of the office doesn't know what's going on. It's, and it's, it's not just some bullshit that you can, you know, throw out on Friday nights for people to forget about. It's something directly pertaining to our issues in the Middle East, right? Like if we're going to give Saudi the AOC to enrich uranium.

• 44:27Speaker 06

  But you know, I, I think it's been, again, I, I think the danger of the agreement has been overstated, all right? A two-year study, which gives all kinds of leeway.

• 44:42Speaker 06

  And, and then the, the agreement itself isn't giving the Saudis the technology to enrich their own uranium. It's, it's establishing what, you know, what's been called a black box facility, which is physically located in Saudi Arabia, but it's operated by American companies

• 45:03Speaker 06

  without transferring the, you know, enrichment technology directly to the Saudis. So it's, it's kind of enrichment enabling.

• 45:17Speaker 06

  But you've got this gate of a two-year study, right? And then you've got American operational control. So I, you know, for those who are criticizing the agreement on its own merit and saying, hey, how come we're doing this? Um, I, you know, we may not have, we may not have stipulated the Saudis need to join a non-proliferation, sign a non-proliferation agreement. But if you look at the terms of the actual agreement, there's no need to do that if we're not transferring the technology directly to them.

• 45:48Speaker 05

  I, I agree. I think the agreement, I mean, again, but there's no carrot. I mean, the idea would be they gotta, they gotta join the Abraham Accords. And then they get this. And I think, I think they, and frankly, I think US national security planners and the Israelis and others would be more comfortable with that if there's going to be, you know, because then you end up having a Saudi Israeli alliance. Of course, all of this is not even possible with the current Israeli government. So we shall see. I just think we should have, I don't understand why this happened now. Why did we not wait till there's a change in Israeli administrations where you could actually have significant progress?

• 46:19Speaker 06

  I, I think, I don't know, but I, I think some of this might have been a Trumpian reaction to, to the fact that in, in the media and, and it's, you know, no secret, Saudi Arabia is becoming very frustrated with the administration's lack of information sharing, right, about intentions. And so what was the name, what was the name of the operation? That, that MBS said, hey, when, we're, we're going to deny access. Okay, we, we're done.

• 47:02Speaker 06

  We're going to deny access to Saudi airspace if you want to continue this. I forget. It, it was, it was like in week five of the seven-week campaign.

• 47:13Speaker 05

  I think it was just recently too. It was discussions even, even recent. Yeah.

• 47:17Speaker 06

  Yeah. So, so, you know, I, I mean, doubtless Trump administration that has always been ostensibly very friendly and welcoming to the Saudis in practice has kind of cold-shouldered them at a time when the Saudis were taking, along with UAE, the brunt of many of the attacks. And there was the feeling that they were being slighted and I think with some justification, a great deal of justification. So I felt, I, you know, that this was, again, kind of a Trumpian, hey, guys, you're still my friends, look what I'm doing, without really, surprisingly, right? Laying the diplomatic groundwork for this to be a, a move.

• 47:59Speaker 04

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• 48:00Speaker 07

  All right, fellas.

• 48:01Speaker 05

  Roll too.

• 48:01Speaker 07

  Have a great rest of your day.

• 48:02Speaker 05

  I'm going to wrap up with Andy.

• 48:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, uh, so Andy.

• 48:09Speaker 06

  All the intelligence guides have left, so.

• 48:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's okay now. This part's not sponsored by the CIA.

• 48:15Speaker 06

  We're losing, we're losing, uh, and then we've just lost ninety-five percent of our audience too.

• 48:19Speaker 04

  No, I don't think so. I think you're wrong on that. Um. Are you tracking at all what's going on with Israel? Like, but the political, like, the, the, election in October. Um, I really haven't seen polls or anything like that. Does it really look like Netanyahu is gonna get bounced?

• 48:37Speaker 06

  I.

• 48:38Speaker 04

  As far as you know.

• 48:39Speaker 06

  Well, I mean, I, the, so the, the, I don't have any insights into this beyond what I'm reading. And, uh, and what I'm reading is conflicting, right? Um, it's really, I, I know, I'm just hedging, but I'm just giving you an honest answer.

• 48:54Speaker 04

  Sure, sure.

• 48:55Speaker 06

  I think, I think it's gonna be a nail biter right down to the election itself.

• 49:00Speaker 06

  I mean, as we can go on and on about how there is a segment of the Israeli population that hates Netanyahu, but there's also a sizable segment of the Israeli population who will support him no matter what, similarly, you know, similar to, to our own president. So, hard to say, I don't think. Yeah, I'm not

• 49:25Speaker 06

  too early to speculate on that.

• 49:27Speaker 04

  All right, one last thing. What do you make of, uh, Ukraine hitting a couple of, uh, container ships heading towards Iran from Russia with military supplies and Iran coming out saying, I think they said a sailor was killed and somebody else was injured.

• 49:43Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 49:44Speaker 04

  What do you make of that?

• 49:46Speaker 06

  The Ukrainians have a legitimate beef with the Iranians from way back in early twenty twenty-three. Uh, actually, late twenty twenty-four, when, uh, the Russians first started using the Shahed drone. I mean, that's been, there's been absolute open collaboration between the Iranians and the Russians, and now the Russians are developing the Shaheds domestically with Iranian support. Of course, this is no, and, and, and the, you know, agreements on, on oil, the, I, all of these things. I mean, Iran is a Russian ally. It's a Russian ally, okay? So,

• 50:29Speaker 06

  absolutely legitimate. Ukraine has been, uh, has cut down Russian ability to, to, uh, export, refine and export their oil by, uh, the estimates on the media between fourteen and twenty percent, right? Which is significant, some say higher. And you can see on, uh, on RT, you know, Russian-owned networks, uh, long lines at gas stations. The Russian population is feeling the impacts of Ukrainian strikes on their oil infrastructure. Um, so going after, going after, uh, exports, um, it, it just makes sense too. And, you know, the Iranians have, uh,

• 51:13Speaker 06

  certainly, the, the, no friends of, uh, the Ukrainians. It's kind of ironic, you know, I mean, here's Ukraine pitching in to assist the United States.

• 51:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:23Speaker 06

  Well, yes.

• 51:25Speaker 04

  Um, what else? There was something else I wanted to ask you. Um, I forgot.

• 51:32Speaker 06

  Hey, you know, the, one thing, I mean, John's not here, uh, and, and I would say, you know, we've been talking about the, the, the fact that more of the same military strikes is likely to have limited returns and that understanding are the, kind of the mentality of Iranian leadership. They are very unlikely to negotiate and give concessions while still being struck, right? Um, and so you've got this, you've got this disparity that we just think keep ramping up the kinetic pressure, ramp it up, ramp it up. At some stage, they're gonna come to the negotiations table. But then from their point of view,

• 52:16Speaker 06

  it doesn't make sense at all, and that is not gonna happen. Um, I would, I would think, I would think that John would, if he'd been here, would talk about, uh, the fact that sanctions so far have had limited effect for a number of reasons. One is that we impose sanctions in increments. I think there's been kind of four increments, right, since the conflict started? And, um, and, and what it, what it's meant in each case, we impose sanctions and the Iranians adapt, they find workarounds. We go after those workarounds, you know, we've identified, I know thirty-two individuals in eight countries who are enabling

• 52:59Speaker 06

  Iran to rebuild their missile drone programs, right, by providing components everywhere from Hong Kong to Belarus. We've identified the ships that are carrying Iranian oil. Invariably, they are flying flags of, um, of countries that would either deny us boarding rights, or we have to ask those countries specifically before boarding their vessels. We can't just simply board vessels unless they are on flag, right? So all of these things are happening. So I think John would probably say, hey, we need to have, we just need to, to be more dynamic in our imposition of these sanctions and going after the, the supply chains rather than hitting the finished products in Iran.

• 53:41Speaker 06

  And what's that means is imposing rolling sanctions, right? So we're constantly, um, identifying workarounds, going after individuals who are involved with those workarounds, putting pressure on, uh, governments that are allowing, uh, the components to export of components, et cetera. Um, really imposing costs on banks, separating them from the financial system if they are even peripherally involved in supporting Iran, um, by harboring Iranian assets or enabling Iranian assets to bypass US sanctions.

• 54:23Speaker 06

  All of these things are things that we can do. Um, we can physically, you know, we, eh, we can, and I'm a little bit thin ice here, but there are, um, there are circumstances in which we can physically board ships even without permission of the countries that own them. But for the countries that own them, um, we just simply need to put pressure on them and say, listen, uh, we need to, you know, this, this ship, we've got evidence, blah, blah, blah, we're gonna board and search and impound if we find that it is evading sanctions. So there's a lot of things that can be done.

• 55:05Speaker 06

  And then on the targeting itself, look, I'm, we, we're playing whack-a-mole. We're playing whack-a-mole in the, in, in the area of sanctions and imposing costs and preventing workarounds and regeneration of these, uh, of these programs and the weapons programs, all of these things. Um, and we're playing whack-a-mole when it comes to strikes. And so I'm thinking, okay, what do you do when, when you're going after assets that are hard to destroy? Um, and, and, eh, yes, you, you go after infrastructure to some extent. But the other thing is just making a very determined effort to go after layers of leadership, right?

• 55:47Speaker 06

  We've gone after the top layer of leadership, and then you keep lowering that, that layer. And it's especially important since the Iranians are, and I know this has become a cliche, but they're operating off of kind of a theory of mission command, decentralized command, where they push that decision-making down, the mosaic doctrine. So we keep, we, we take, we make a very comprehensive approach to knocking off each layer of leadership. And I know I'd probably be critiqued for my rather cavalier um, terminology here, but that's, you, you know, when you're talking about bringing pain on the regime itself, not on the people, but on the regime itself, that's what you have to do, those things in conjunction.

• 56:32Speaker 06

  Um, I know we're doing some of that, but we're not doing it. We're not doing it comprehensively, holistically, and we're not doing it in a way, uh, dynamic targeting, right? In both, in both ways, dynamic financial targeting, dynamic kinetic targeting. Um, is, is, I think, the way to approach this, right? And at the same time, there's a whole realm of cyber stuff that we could be doing. And I know, I understand why we don't necessarily want to do it. We don't want to show our hands to what we, to, you know, countries, a country that we regard as being our real enemy. But nevertheless, there are things that we can do, I'm sure, in that area, offensive cyber operations,

• 57:16Speaker 06

  to also increase the pain directly on the Iranian regime. So I guess, you know, in a, eh, in a nutshell, what I'm saying is rather than this rather broad targeting, and even though we've said that we've narrowed the aperture of that targeting to certain assets,

• 57:37Speaker 06

  we forget about those assets, we forget about the, the weapon which's downrange, and we go after the supply chains, we go after the financial, uh, the, the, the money flow, right? And then we go after the actual leadership. Combination of those things would seem to be a more intelligent way perhaps to do this.

• 58:01Speaker 04

  Andy, let me ask you, to have those rolling sanctions and the more dynamic sanctions, do you need a uh, thing, uh, Congress to okay that? Like a law to be passed or something like that? Or can we do that?

• 58:12Speaker 06

  I don't think so. No, I mean, these are simply, uh,

• 58:14Speaker 04

  So why aren't we doing it?

• 58:16Speaker 06

  These are, this is direction to the treasure. I mean, we didn't need.

• 58:20Speaker 04

  Are you, we need a functioning, dynamic NSC to do something like that?

• 58:24Speaker 06

  We didn't need congressional approval to impose the four sets that we've already done. You know, I think it's just direction to treasury and, and OFAC to, to go ahead and do it. I could be wrong on that, okay? And I welcome any, any of our audience who can correct me. Um, it's not my area of expertise. Indeed, I have no real areas of expertise, but, um, but I do know that much that, you know, going after the money uh, is, eh, is one of the things that, that we need to, going after the money, going after the components, upstream supply chain, and then downstream going after the people is a way perhaps to bring greater pressure.

• 59:05Speaker 06

  And then the last thing is, you've got to offer a carrot, all right? You've got to think how the Iranian, this whole thing about unconditional surrender and they're gonna give in and you have to, you have to, if you want to really bring them to the negotiating table, you ratchet up the pain and that, and the ways that I've told you, be smart about it. But at the same time, you have to offer them, offer them some face-saving, uh, outlet.

• 59:32Speaker 04

  Yeah. No, well said. All right. Tell me about your book.

• 59:38Speaker 06

  Yeah, so the war in Gaza, if you're interested in, in chapter increments pending publication, which should be in early 2027, please sign on to my, my Substack and if it's, I will, you know, without, thank you. Thank you for this platform. I will say this, okay? Incredibly difficult topic to write about. It was, I, for a number of ways. And, and I've tried to, I think you'll see from the chapters that I've written, the chapters that I have been

• 1:00:17Speaker 06

  published, that it's as balanced as I possibly can make it. But I don't pull punches where punches need, where punches need to be delivered. I deliver them in the book, but I back everything up with facts. I mean, you've read my articles on Gaza. But, but my point is too, I, I, I look at it totally, I, I mean, the people I've interviewed on, on both sides, I won't say both sides, all sides, I, it's, it's a pretty comprehensive group. And to my knowledge, I, and I've read, I've, I've, I've read or reviewed all the books on seven October that come out to

• 1:00:59Speaker 06

  date. This is, I don't think there is as holistic or comprehensive approach to the topic as, as in this book that, that is coming out.

• 1:01:10Speaker 04

  Are you, are you, are you planning on posting a chapter, like every chapter? No, right? On Substack or just a few?

• 1:01:16Speaker 06

  No, I, I mean, between now and publication, I will, I will post maybe a third of all of the book available free, right? Cheapskate.

• 1:01:28Speaker 04

  Yeah. That first chapter was incredible.

• 1:01:30Speaker 06

  My Substack's free, totally.

• 1:01:33Speaker 04

  Yeah. And that first chapter was incredible. I definitely suggest people go and check it out. That link is in the description for the Substack.

• 1:01:40Speaker 06

  There is, there is stuff in the book that has not been released elsewhere. You know, especially when we're getting into what actually happened on seven October, the lead up, how Hamas prepared for it. And, and, and also within the, the subsequent conflict in Gaza and the, the conflict in the, on the northern front of the, in, and, and although, you know, for the most part, a lot of my sources, not all, but you know, a lot of them wanted to remain anonymous. And of course, you know, I protect that. Where I have done so, then I find, I also find objective

• 1:02:25Speaker 06

  proof of what they have said. So I'm not just simply taking people's word for it. But there is a lot in there that you will not find anywhere else.

• 1:02:33Speaker 04

  Yeah. It's a, yeah, definitely check it out, everybody. All right. That's the show, I think. Unless you have more to say, Andy, I'll let you rip. I'll let you rip.

• 1:02:43Speaker 06

  No, no, no, that's

• 1:02:44Speaker 04

  Wax poetically.

• 1:02:45Speaker 06

  Way, way too much of me, the show.

• 1:02:49Speaker 04

  I want everyone to do us a favor. I want everyone to like and subscribe this. If you're listening to us on audio, rated five stars, subscribe there too. Tell a friend, you know, let a friend know what's going on. Andy's got another book called The One The Tempest Gathers, his autobiography. It's incredible as well. All those links are in the description. All the links for all the guys, John, Mick, Mark, links are in the description. And the best place to support the show, have us keep going is patreon.com slash the team house. You get both eyes on and team house episodes ad free and early and you can watch team house episodes as we record them live. And you can help support the show. So Andy, a pleasure as always.

• 1:03:29Speaker 04

  But rest in peace, Sam Fattis, former CIA officer. He's been on the team house a few years back now, probably five or six years back, passed away. So rest in peace to Sam Fattis.

• 1:03:43Speaker 04

  That's it. Thanks, Andy.

• 1:03:48Speaker 01

  Hey y'all, it's Lauren LaRosa and y'all know I always have the latest. So on my new audio series, Love Lately, I'm getting into the conversations we're really having about love, relationships and our sexual health. Every week it's me and Dr. Contessa Metcalf, my big sister with a medical degree, breaking down what the culture says versus what the doctor says and helping make sense of it all. Get into it. Another thing me and my friends don't really talk about is like how you're having conversations with people about getting tested. I'll be honest, so many women don't feel comfortable talking about it and they don't feel comfortable advocating for themselves. But let's go ahead and just put you in a position to where you can kind of empower yourself and it, it isn't something, it's not a judgment thing. It brings that peace

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  Hey y'all, it's Lauren LaRosa and y'all know I always have the latest. So on my new audio series, Love Lately, I'm getting into the conversations we're really having about love, relationships and our sexual health. Every week it's me and Dr. Contessa Metcalf, my big sister with a medical degree, breaking down what the culture says versus what the doctor says and helping make sense of it all. Get into it. Another thing me and my friends don't really talk about is like how you're having conversations with people about getting tested. I'll be honest, so many women don't feel comfortable talking about it and they don't feel comfortable advocating for themselves. But let's go ahead and just put you in a position to where you can kind of empower yourself and it, it isn't something, it's not a judgment thing. It brings that peace

• 1:07:40Speaker 01

  of mind that y'all can just do what y'all do and have a good time. Yeah. I say get tested together. And that's beautiful. Brings you closer together. Listen to Love Lately with Lauren LaRosa from iHeart's Ruby Studio on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Gilead Sciences.

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• 1:08:57Jack Murphy?

  Brian Phillippe joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:09:08Speaker 01

  Hey y'all, it's Lauren LaRosa and y'all know I always Have the latest. So on my new audio series, Love Lately, I'm getting into the conversations we're really having about love, relationships, and our sexual health. Every week, it's me and Dr. Contessa Metcalf, my big sister with a medical degree, breaking down what the culture says versus what the doctor says and helping make sense of it all. Get into it. You know, the thing me and my friends don't really talk about is like how you're having conversations with people about getting tested. I'll be honest, so many women don't feel comfortable talking about it. And they don't feel comfortable advocating for themselves. But let's go ahead and just put you in a position to where you can kind of empower yourself. And it isn't something, it's not a judgment thing.

• 1:09:52Speaker 01

  It brings that peace of mind that y'all can just do what y'all do and have a good time. Yeah. I say get tested together, and that's beautiful. Brings you closer together. Listen to Love Lately with Lauren LaRosa from iHeart's Ruby Studio, on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Gilead Sciences.

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  911 Nashville returns.

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  What's a homicide detective doing here? Three bodies on the ground.

• 1:11:00Jack Murphy?

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 1:11:03Speaker 03

  I will send swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues of the Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:11:10Jack Murphy?

  Brian Philippi joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:11:21Speaker 01

  Hey, y'all, it's Lauren LaRosa, and y'all know I always have the latest. So on my new audio series, Love Lately, I'm getting into the conversations we're really having about love, relationships, and our sexual health. Every week, it's me and Dr. Contessa Metcalf, my big sister with a medical degree, breaking down what the culture says versus what the doctor says and helping make sense of it all. Get into it. You know, the thing me and my friends don't really talk about is like how you're having conversations with people about getting tested. I'll be honest, so many women don't feel comfortable talking about it. And they don't feel comfortable advocating for themselves. But let's go ahead and just put you in a position to where you can kind of empower yourself. And it isn't something, it's not a judgment thing.

• 1:12:05Speaker 01

  It brings that peace of mind that y'all can just do what y'all do and have a good time. Yeah. I say get tested together, and that's beautiful. Brings you closer together. Listen to Love Lately with Lauren LaRosa from iHeart's Ruby Studio on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Gilead Sciences.

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• 1:13:07Jack Murphy?

  911 Nashville returns.

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  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

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  I will send swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues of the Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:13:22Jack Murphy?

  Brian Philippi joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:13:34Speaker 01

  Hey, y'all, it's Lauren LaRosa, and y'all know I always have the latest. So on my new audio series, Love Lately, I'm getting into the conversations we're really having about love, relationships, and our sexual health. Every week, it's me and Dr. Contessa Metcalf, my big sister with a medical degree, breaking down what the culture says versus what the doctor says and helping make sense of it all. Get into it. You know, the thing me and my friends don't really talk about is like how you're having conversations with people about getting tested. I'll be honest, so many women don't feel comfortable talking about it. And they don't feel comfortable advocating for themselves. But let's go ahead and just put you in a position to where you can kind of empower yourself. And it isn't something, it's not a judgment thing.

• 1:14:17Speaker 01

  It brings that peace of mind that y'all can just do what y'all do and have a good time. Yeah. I say get tested together, and that's beautiful. Brings you closer together. Listen to Love Lately with Lauren LaRosa from iHeart's Ruby Studio on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Gilead Sciences.

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• 1:15:10Speaker 01

  911, what's your emergency? Please help us, they're everywhere. We think they're murder warnings.

• 1:15:18Jack Murphy?

  911 Nashville returns.

• 1:15:20Speaker 03

  What's a homicide detective doing here? Three bodies on the ground.

• 1:15:23Jack Murphy?

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 1:15:26Speaker 03

  I will send swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues of the Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:15:33Jack Murphy?

  Brian Philippi joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:15:44Speaker 01

  Hey, y'all, it's Lauren LaRosa, and y'all know I always have the latest. So on my new audio series, Love Lately, I'm getting into the conversations we're really having about love, relationships, and our sexual health. Every week, it's me and Dr. Contessa Metcalf, my big sister with a medical degree, breaking down what the culture says versus what the doctor says and helping make sense of it all. Get into it. You know, the thing me and my friends don't really talk about is like how you're having conversations with people about getting tested. I'll be honest, so many women don't feel comfortable talking about it. And they don't feel comfortable advocating for themselves. But let's go ahead and just put you in a position to where you can kind of empower yourself. And it isn't something, it's not a judgment thing.

• 1:16:28Speaker 01

  It brings that peace of mind that y'all can just do what y'all do and have a good time. Yeah. I say get tested together, and that's beautiful. Brings you closer together. Listen to Love Lately with Lauren LaRosa from iHeart's Ruby Studio on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Gilead Sciences.

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• 1:17:31Jack Murphy?

  911 Nashville returns.

• 1:17:33Speaker 03

  What's a homicide detective doing here? Three bodies on the ground.

• 1:17:37Jack Murphy?

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 1:17:39Speaker 03

  I will send swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues of the Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:17:46Jack Murphy?

  Brian Philippi joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:17:58Speaker 01

  Hey, y'all, it's Lauren LaRosa, and y'all know I always have the latest. So on my new audio series, Love Lately, I'm getting into the conversations we're really having about love, relationships, and our sexual health. Every week, it's me and Dr. Contessa Metcalf, my big sister with a medical degree, breaking down what the culture says versus what the doctor says.

• 1:18:18Jack Murphy?

  Doctor says and helping make sense of it all. Get into it. Another thing me and my friends don't really talk about is like how you're having conversations with people about getting tested.

• 1:18:28Speaker 01

  I'll be honest, so many women don't feel comfortable talking about it and they don't feel comfortable advocating for themselves. But let's go ahead and just put you in a position to where you can kind of empower yourself and it isn't something, it's not a judgment thing. It brings that peace of mind that y'all can just do what y'all do and have a good time. Yeah. I say get tested together and that's beautiful. Brings you closer together.

• 1:18:52Jack Murphy?

  Listen to Love Lately with Lauren LaRosa from iHeart's Ruby Studio on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Gilead Sciences.

• 1:19:06Speaker 00

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• 1:19:34Speaker 01

  911, what's your emergency?

• 1:19:38Speaker 01

  Please help us, they're everywhere. We think they're murder hornets.

• 1:19:42Jack Murphy?

  911 Nashville returns.

• 1:19:45Speaker 03

  It's a homicide detective down here. Three bodies on the ground.

• 1:19:48Jack Murphy?

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 1:19:50Speaker 03

  All since swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues of the Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:19:58Jack Murphy?

  Brian Phillippe joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:20:09Jack Murphy?

  Hey y'all, it's Lauren LaRosa and y'all know I always have the latest. So on my new audio series, Love Lately, I'm getting into the conversations we're really having about love, relationships, and our sexual health. Every week, it's me and Dr. Contessa Metcalf, my big sister with a medical degree, breaking down what the culture says versus what the doctor says and helping make sense of it all. Get into it. Another thing me and my friends don't really talk about is like how you're having conversations with people about getting tested.

• 1:20:38Speaker 01

  I'll be honest, so many women don't feel comfortable talking about it and they don't feel comfortable advocating for themselves. But let's go ahead and just put you in a position to where you can kind of empower yourself and it isn't something, it's not a judgment thing. It brings that peace of mind that y'all can just do what y'all do and have a good time. Yeah. I say get tested together and that's beautiful. Brings you closer together.

• 1:21:03Jack Murphy?

  Listen to Love Lately with Lauren LaRosa from iHeart's Ruby Studio on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Gilead Sciences.

• 1:21:17Speaker 01

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• 1:21:50Speaker 01

  Please help us, they're everywhere. We think they're murder hornets.

• 1:21:54Jack Murphy?

  911 Nashville returns.

• 1:21:57Speaker 03

  It's a homicide detective down here. Three bodies on the ground.

• 1:22:00Jack Murphy?

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 1:22:03Speaker 03

  All since swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues of the Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:22:10Jack Murphy?

  Brian Phillippe joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:22:21Jack Murphy?

  Hey y'all, it's Lauren LaRosa and y'all know I always have the latest. So on my new audio series, Love Lately, I'm getting into the conversations we're really having about love, relationships, and our sexual health. Every week, it's me and Dr. Contessa Metcalf, my big sister with a medical degree, breaking down what the culture says versus what the doctor says and helping make sense of it all. Get into it. Another thing me and my friends don't really talk about is like how you're having conversations with people about getting tested.

• 1:22:51Speaker 01

  I'll be honest, so many women don't feel comfortable talking about it and they don't feel comfortable advocating for themselves. But let's go ahead and just put you in a position to where you can kind of empower yourself and it isn't something, it's not a judgment thing. It brings that peace of mind that y'all can just do what y'all do and have a good time. Yeah. I say get tested together and that's beautiful. Brings you closer together.

• 1:23:15Jack Murphy?

  Listen to Love Lately with Lauren LaRosa from iHeart's Ruby Studio on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Gilead Sciences.

• 1:23:29Speaker 00

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• 1:24:00Speaker 01

  911, what's your emergency?

• 1:24:03Speaker 01

  Please help us, they're everywhere. We think they're murder hornets.

• 1:24:08Jack Murphy?

  911 Nashville returns.

• 1:24:10Speaker 03

  It's a homicide detective down here. Three bodies on the ground.

• 1:24:13Jack Murphy?

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 1:24:16Speaker 03

  All since swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues of the Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:24:23Jack Murphy?

  Brian Phillippe joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:24:34Jack Murphy?

  Hey y'all, it's Lauren LaRosa and y'all know I always have the latest. So on my new audio series, Love Lately, I'm getting into the conversations we're really having about love, relationships, and our sexual health. Every week, it's me and Dr. Contessa Metcalf, my big sister with a medical degree, breaking down what the culture says versus what the doctor says and helping make sense of it all. Get into it. Another thing me and my friends don't really talk about is like how you're having conversations with people about getting tested.

• 1:25:04Speaker 01

  I'll be honest, so many women don't feel comfortable talking about it and they don't feel comfortable advocating for themselves. But let's go ahead and just put you in a position to where you can kind of empower yourself and it isn't something, it's not a judgment thing. It brings that peace of mind that y'all can just do what y'all do and have a good time. Yeah. I say get tested together and that's beautiful. Brings you closer together.

• 1:25:28Jack Murphy?

  Listen to Love Lately with Lauren LaRosa from iHeart's Ruby Studio on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Gilead Sciences.

• 1:25:42Speaker 00

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• 1:26:13Speaker 01

  911, what's your emergency? Please help us, they're everywhere. We think they're murder hornets.

• 1:26:21Jack Murphy?

  911 Nashville returns.

• 1:26:23Speaker 03

  It's a homicide detective down here. Three bodies on the ground.

• 1:26:26Jack Murphy?

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 1:26:29Speaker 03

  All since swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues of the Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:26:36Jack Murphy?

  Brian Phillippe joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:26:47Jack Murphy?

  Hey y'all, it's Lauren LaRosa and y'all know I always have the latest. So on my new audio series, Love Lately, I'm getting into the conversations we're really having about love, relationships, and our sexual health. Every week, it's me and Dr. Contessa Metcalf, my big sister with a medical degree, breaking down what the culture says versus what the doctor says and helping make sense

• 1:27:09Speaker 01

  Of it all, get into it. You know, the thing me and my friends don't really talk about is like how you're having conversations with people about getting tested.

• 1:27:17Jack Murphy?

  I'll be honest, so many women don't feel comfortable talking about it and they don't feel comfortable advocating for themselves. But let's go ahead and just put you in a position to where you can kind of empower yourself and it isn't something, it's not a judgment thing. It brings that peace of mind that y'all can just do what y'all do and have a good time. Yeah. I say get tested together and that's beautiful. Brings you closer together.

• 1:27:41Speaker 01

  Listen to Love Lately with Lauren LaRosa from iHeart's Ruby Studio on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Gilead Sciences.

• 1:27:55Speaker 00

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• 1:28:24Speaker 01

  911, what's your emergency?

• 1:28:27Speaker 01

  Please help us, they're everywhere. We think they're murder hornets.

• 1:28:31Jack Murphy?

  911 Nashville returns.

• 1:28:34Speaker 03

  It's a homicide detective down here. Three bodies on the ground.

• 1:28:37Jack Murphy?

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 1:28:39Speaker 03

  I will send swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues for Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:28:47Jack Murphy?

  Brian Philippi joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:28:59Speaker 01

  Hey y'all, it's Lauren LaRosa and y'all know I always have the latest. So on my new audio series, Love Lately, I'm getting into the conversations we're really having about love, relationships, and our sexual health. Every week, it's me and Dr. Contessa Metcalf, my big sister with a medical degree, breaking down what the culture says versus what the doctor says and helping make sense of it all, get into it. You know, the thing me and my friends don't really talk about is like how you're having conversations with people about getting tested.

• 1:29:28Jack Murphy?

  I'll be honest, so many women don't feel comfortable talking about it and they don't feel comfortable advocating for themselves. But let's go ahead and just put you in a position to where you can kind of empower yourself and it isn't something, it's not a judgment thing. It brings that peace of mind that y'all can just do what y'all do and have a good time. Yeah. I say get tested together and that's beautiful. Brings you closer together.

• 1:29:52Speaker 01

  Listen to Love Lately with Lauren LaRosa from iHeart's Ruby Studio on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Gilead Sciences.

• 1:30:06Speaker 00

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• 1:30:37Speaker 01

  911, what's your emergency? Please help us, they're everywhere. We think they're murder hornets.

• 1:30:45Jack Murphy?

  911 Nashville returns.

• 1:30:47Speaker 03

  It's a homicide detective down here. Three bodies on the ground.

• 1:30:51Jack Murphy?

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 1:30:53Speaker 03

  I will send swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues for Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:31:00Jack Murphy?

  Brian Philippi joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:31:12Speaker 01

  Hey y'all, it's Lauren LaRosa and y'all know I always have the latest. So on my new audio series, Love Lately, I'm getting into the conversations we're really having about love, relationships, and our sexual health. Every week, it's me and Dr. Contessa Metcalf, my big sister with a medical degree, breaking down what the culture says versus what the doctor says and helping make sense of it all, get into it. You know, the thing me and my friends don't really talk about is like how you're having conversations with people about getting tested.

• 1:31:41Jack Murphy?

  I'll be honest, so many women don't feel comfortable talking about it and they don't feel comfortable advocating for themselves. But let's go ahead and just put you in a position to where you can kind of empower yourself and it isn't something, it's not a judgment thing. It brings that peace of mind that y'all can just do what y'all do and have a good time. Yeah. I say get tested together and that's beautiful. Brings you closer together.

• 1:32:06Speaker 01

  Listen to Love Lately with Lauren LaRosa from iHeart's Ruby Studio on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Gilead Sciences.

• 1:32:19Speaker 01

  Cash flow crunch? OnDeck's small business line of credit gives your business immediate access to funds, up to $200,000, right when you need it. Cover seasonal dips, manage payroll, restock inventory, or tackle unexpected expenses without missing a beat. With flexible draws, transparent pricing, and control over repayment, get funded quickly and confidently. Apply today at ondeck.com. Funds could be available as soon as tomorrow. Depending on certain loan attributes, your business loan may be issued by OnDeck or Celtic Bank. OnDeck does not lend in North Dakota. All loans and amounts subject to lender approval.

• 1:32:51Speaker 01

  911, what's your emergency?

• 1:32:54Speaker 01

  Please help us, they're everywhere. We think they're murder hornets.

• 1:32:58Jack Murphy?

  911 Nashville returns.

• 1:33:01Speaker 03

  It's a homicide detective down here. Three bodies on the ground.

• 1:33:04Jack Murphy?

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 1:33:07Speaker 03

  I will send swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues for Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:33:14Jack Murphy?

  Brian Philippi joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:33:25Speaker 01

  Hey y'all, it's Lauren LaRosa and y'all know I always have the latest. So on my new audio series, Love Lately, I'm getting into the conversations we're really having about love, relationships, and our sexual health. Every week, it's me and Dr. Contessa Metcalf, my big sister with a medical degree, breaking down what the culture says versus what the doctor says and helping make sense of it all, get into it. You know, the thing me and my friends don't really talk about is like how you're having conversations with people about getting tested.

• 1:33:55Jack Murphy?

  I'll be honest, so many women don't feel comfortable talking about it and they don't feel comfortable advocating for themselves. But let's go ahead and just put you in a position to where you can kind of empower yourself and it isn't something, it's not a judgment thing. It brings that peace of mind that y'all can just do what y'all do and have a good time. Yeah. I say get tested together and that's beautiful. Brings you closer together.

• 1:34:19Speaker 01

  Listen to Love Lately with Lauren LaRosa from iHeart's Ruby Studio on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Gilead Sciences.

• 1:34:33Speaker 01

  Cash flow crunch? OnDeck's small business line of credit gives your business immediate access to funds, up to $200,000, right when you need it. Cover seasonal dips, manage payroll, restock inventory, or tackle unexpected expenses without missing a beat. With flexible draws, transparent pricing, and control over repayment, get funded quickly and confidently. Apply today at ondeck.com. Funds could be available as soon as tomorrow. Depending on certain loan attributes, your business loan may be issued by OnDeck or Celtic Bank. OnDeck does not lend in North Dakota. All loans and amounts subject to lender approval. 911, what's your emergency? Please help us, they're everywhere. We think they're murder hornets.

• 1:35:12Jack Murphy?

  911 Nashville returns.

• 1:35:14Speaker 03

  It's a homicide detective down here. Three bodies on the ground.

• 1:35:17Jack Murphy?

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 1:35:20Speaker 03

  I will send swarms upon you and upon your people. That's one of the plagues for Bible. And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 1:35:27Jack Murphy?

  Brian Philippi joins 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 1:35:36Speaker 01

  Girl, guess what? Hey, what's up? I'm looking into prep for HIV prevention. Prep? I didn't think that was for women. Same. Then I asked my doctor and she said anyone who is sexually active should know about PrEP. Really? And there are long-acting injectable options. Long-acting? I like the sound of that. Sounds like it's time to talk to your healthcare provider. You can also check out preppistforwomen.com for more information. Sponsored by Gilead.

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