Train Your Mind: Understanding Synchronicity Will Change Your Life | Mel Robbins Podcast

Order your copy of The Let Them Theory 👉 https://melrob.co/let-them-theory 👈 The #1 Best Selling Book of 2025 🔥 Discover how much power you truly have. It all begins with two simple words. Let Them. — Have you ever had such a powerful #coincidence happen in your life that you think… This must be a sign. The person sitting next to you at an event turns out to be part of the team you’re interviewing with next week. There is a hummingbird outside your apartment window on move-in day, and your grandmother always said she’d come back as one. You’re sitting in your favorite coffee shop, thinking of someone you haven’t seen in a long time, and right at that moment, they text you. You can’t explain how these things happen, but when they do, they give you #goosebumps and make you feel just a little bit more confident and less alone. I personally love it when this happens. And I’m always on the lookout for signs that my life is moving in the right direction. Well, what if I told you that you can create more moments like this? That’s what we’re talking about today. These moments have a name: they’re called “synchronicities.” And my guest today is Dr. Tom Myers, a professor who researched and wrote his entire Ph. D. dissertation on the subject. You’re about to learn simple steps that will train your brain to create more of these impactful #synchronicities in your own life, and three powerful reasons why it’s important that you do so. Today, you and I are hanging out at the intersection of #psychology, #science, and #spirituality. Wouldn’t it be nice if your life had more of these magical moments? Looking for signs that you’re on the right path is not some cheesy thing to do; it’s yet another way you can get intentional about training your brain to help you experience life in a whole new way. I’ll also share a few stories from my life that are not only examples of synchronicity, but they will also give you goosebumps. I can’t wait to hear your “goosebump” stories, and I hope what you learn from our conversation today will teach you how to create more of them. Xo Mel I talk more about synchronicity, including a powerful story from my life and how to create more of them, in my New York Times bestselling book The High 5 Habit. For complete show notes, including links to every research study mentioned, see the episode page at https://www.melrobbins.com/podcast In this episode, you’ll learn: - The definition of synchronicity - 3 powerful reasons why you want to invite more of it in - 3 simple steps to open yourself up to more synchronicity in your life In this episode: 00:00 Intro 00:40 Intro to synchronicity and Dr. Tom Myers 05:15 Definition: What is synchronicity? 09:42 The difference between a coincidence and a synchronicity 17:53 Key concept: How to tell that a synchronicity is happening to you 23:12 Why does synchronicity matter? 27:23 Key concept: How to tap into the power within and create more magical moments in your life 41:05 Exercise: Looking for hearts 43:35 How looking for hearts helped save Eliza’s life — Follow Mel: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/melrobbins/ TikTok: http://tiktok.com/@melrobbins Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/melrobbins LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melrobbins Website: http://melrobbins.com​ — Sign up for Mel’s newsletter: https://melrob.co/sign-up-newsletter A note from Mel to you, twice a week, sharing simple, practical ways to build the life you want. — Subscribe to Mel’s channel here: https://www.youtube.com/melrobbins​?sub_confirmation=1 — Listen to The Mel Robbins Podcast 🎧 New episodes drop every Monday & Thursday! https://melrob.co/spotify https://melrob.co/applepodcasts https://melrob.co/amazonmusic — Looking for Mel’s books on Amazon? Find them here: The Let Them Theory: https://amzn.to/3IQ21Oe The Let Them Theory Audiobook: https://amzn.to/413SObp The High 5 Habit: https://amzn.to/3fMvfPQ The 5 Second Rule: https://amzn.to/4l54fah

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• 0:00Mel Robbins?

  Hey, it's your friend Mel and welcome to the Mel Robbins Podcast.

• 0:09Mel Robbins?

  Have you ever had something random happen in your life that is so incredible? It gives you goosebumps, you cannot explain it, but you know, this is not just a coincidence. This was meant to happen. Like that moment when you're thinking about somebody and then suddenly they call you or text you? Strange. Or have you ever found a $20 bill in a parking lot and you needed it because you forgot your wallet at home? Or how about this one? I love it when this happens. You sit down next to a stranger on a train or an airplane and you end up discovering some magical connection. Holy cow. They work at the company where you're about to interview for your dream job.

• 0:53Mel Robbins?

  I mean, talk about meant to be. Or you move into a brand new apartment and you look out the window and there's like a bazillion hummingbirds and you know this is the right apartment for you because your grandmother died several years ago and she always said she was going to come back as a hummingbird. And there she is as a sign. Goosebumps. Or how about a moment? I had a moment like this once where I was in a children's hospital with our son Oakley. He was six days old and he was about to be wheeled into emergency surgery. And I looked up and there on the wall was a Winnie the Pooh mural. My husband's name is Christopher Robbins.

• 1:37Mel Robbins?

  I got goosebumps and I knew he'd be okay. Or maybe you've had a goosebump moment that was really profound and you come back to it over and over again. Like the time you were too sick to go to that party, which meant you weren't in that car that crashed on the way home. What I'm talking about are moments that feel like they were meant to happen. You might not be able to explain them, but you just know it was meant to be. It gives you goosebumps. It's like a little wink from the universe, or God, or whatever you believe in, that there is, in fact, this positive force that has your back. Well, what if I told you?

• 2:22Mel Robbins?

  You could learn how to encounter more of these right time at the right place type of moments in your life. In fact, my guest today believes that every human being, yes, you, has a superpower. And that superpower is that you can learn how to create more magic, more moments that give you goosebumps. In fact, there's a word for these moments that can't be explained: synchronicity. We're going to talk about the topic of synchronicity today. What synchronicity is, and how to create more synchronicity in your life. And there are three reasons why this matters. Reason number one: synchronicity will create more meaning and purpose in your life.

• 3:07Mel Robbins?

  And it's a positive ripple effect that happens. Because the more meaning that you can feel and spot, the more synchronicities you will encounter. Researchers have a word for it. That's how powerful this positive ripple effect is. They call it an upward spiral. And today, I want to teach you how to create one in your life. Second reason why this is important is because when you can start to spot synchronicities and signs, it will lessen your feelings of anxiety, it will give you a greater sense of control, and it will make you feel less alone. It's almost like you feel like the universe, or the wind, it's at your back, things are flowing, that you're gonna make it. And I love that feeling, and I want to teach you how to have it.

• 3:53Mel Robbins?

  And finally, the third reason why synchronicity matters is because based on the research, when you get serious about the science of synchronicity... You will be more resilient. And that means you can handle adversity and challenges better than you do right now. And that's really important. You want to know why? Because when you're resilient, when you use synchronicity and signs to tap into that resilience inside you, it's going to encourage you to keep going. And that's going to make you more successful when you believe that you can figure these things out, because you can. There is more than meets the eye in this conversation. This is the intersection of psychology, quantum physics, and spirituality.

• 4:33Mel Robbins?

  In fact, this year's Nobel Prize for Physics was awarded to three physicists for their work in researching how particles that are light years apart still influence one another. And our expert today is going to convince you that you thinking about a friend is what influences your friend to call you out of the blue. You can learn to have your internal thoughts influence your external reality, and we're going to be bringing simple takeaways and the science to prove it to you. I am so excited to introduce you to Dr. Tom Myers, who is an expert on synchronicity. His entire PhD dissertation was on the subject of synchronicity.

• 5:17Mel Robbins?

  He's been a professor and researcher for years, and today he is going to teach you everything that you need to know. Dr. Myers is going to break this topic down step by step, so that you not only understand it, but more importantly, you can start to tap into the power and magic of synchronicity in your life, because he believes and knows that everybody, including you, has this superpower. And today, he's going to teach you how to tap into it. Dr. Myers, thank you so much for being here.

• 5:51Speaker 01

  Great. Nice to be here, Mel.

• 5:53Mel Robbins?

  Can we just start with the basics? I realize you've got a PhD in this, but I want to start at the kindergarten level. What is synchronicity?

• 6:01Speaker 01

  Yes, synchronicity is that point where you have a holy shit moment, right? Like, it is a moment where you step back like, wait a minute, what just happened? How am I here at this place at this time when this is happening in a way that is coming together and it's communicating a way that, wow, it's beyond me. It's created goosebumps, it's created this feeling of, wow, there's something out there.

• 6:27Mel Robbins?

  What I find fascinating about your research and the workshops you teach around the world on synchronicity is that you believe that absolutely every human being, there are now eight billion of us, that we have a superpower and that we can tap into those holy shit moments more in our life?

• 6:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, and you hit it right, I call it a superpower.

• 6:48Mel Robbins?

  Why do physicists care so much about synchronicity?

• 6:50Speaker 01

  So, back in 1928, when Carl Jung started to think about synchronicity, and again, he was self-conscious that he held off until the early 50s.

• 7:01Mel Robbins?

  Wow.

• 7:01Speaker 01

  Where he met a physicist by the name of Wolfgang Pauli.

• 7:05Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 7:05Speaker 01

  Who had just won the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1945.

• 7:09Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 7:10Speaker 01

  Nominated by Albert Einstein. So, when Pauli and Jung got together, Pauli, the physicist, said, no, no, no, you're on to something here. There is a whole physical world of an answer using quantum physics, quantum mechanics.

• 7:29Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 7:30Speaker 01

  To explain how this comes together, how the material world can match what you're thinking about.

• 7:38Mel Robbins?

  Basically, synchronicity, you can think about it this way, that two people or objects that are on other sides of the world or the universe can impact each other and have a energetic connection, and that's what we're talking about.

• 7:56Speaker 01

  Yes, it's quantum entanglement.

• 7:59Mel Robbins?

  One of the things that I find fascinating about this, because this could easily be dismissed, oh, that's a holy shit moment, oh, that's woo-woo, I'm not listening to this, is that there's hard science about synchronicity.

• 8:13Mel Robbins?

  That in your research Carl Jung started looking into synchronicities way back in the day, then physicists got involved. I find it fascinating that the Nobel Prize in Physics, people, was given to somebody who studied quantum entanglement, which is basically about synchronicity and how particles light years away can impact one another, that there are these connections that we can't see.

• 8:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:40Mel Robbins?

  So you're basically teaching people around the world that you, using principles of physics and synchronicity, which has been researched for almost a century, that you can teach yourself how to get intentional about your thoughts and your hopes and your dreams. You can train yourself to start to spot signs in the outside world that match your internal thoughts, hopes and dreams.

• 9:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:10Mel Robbins?

  Whoa.

• 9:11Speaker 01

  My focus is how do we tap into, how do we become aware of the synchronicities and these events and these things coming together in time? How do we, how do we become aware of that and how do we take advantage of that? That helps to confirm we're on the right path.

• 9:30Mel Robbins?

  All right. So Tom, what are the three ways that you know you're having a holy shit, this is synchronicity moment?

• 9:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, it's, it, things come from out of the blue.

• 9:40Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 9:41Speaker 01

  It's as, as Jung called it, "a causal," meaning it was nothing that you put into action. Just as I'm thinking about my friend, I look down at my phone and there's his text, or he calls me, or I run into him in the grocery store. It's like, whoa, that is, that's a holy crap moment, right?

• 9:57Mel Robbins?

  Got it.

• 9:59Speaker 01

  Second part of synchronicity, it is meaningful. It has an impactful meaning to you. It may not be to anyone else, but personally, this circumstance, this coming together in time is meaningful.

• 10:13Mel Robbins?

  Got it. Okay.

• 10:14Speaker 01

  And it's at the right time. It's like, I needed this today. This is the exact information that has come to me today, in this moment, in this second. This is exactly what I needed.

• 10:26Mel Robbins?

  Got it. So it's a holy cow moment. If it's out of the blue, it has meaning that creates the holy shit, and then the timing is like, kind of crazy.

• 10:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:35Mel Robbins?

  So Dr. Myers, can you tell me the difference between a coincidence and a synchronicity?

• 10:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, coincidence, I just ran into this person. Okay, great. But did it have a feeling of something deeper, meaningful, almost a spiritual feel to it? Like, how in the heck could this have ever happened at this right place at the right time?

• 10:58Mel Robbins?

  So a coincidence, you can explain away. But a synchronicity has something more magical that you can't put your finger on?

• 11:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, here's an example of a coincidence for me, okay? So I'm mowing my lawn. And lo and behold, a blue balloon just happens to float down and land on me.

• 11:20Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 11:20Speaker 01

  Okay. So I'm thinking, okay, what's the meaning of this? What is this about? Is there something there? Is there a synchronicity moment that I'm going to be able? You know, I thought it was weird, you know, to be way out in the country and this blue balloon happened chance just kind of float over and land on me, right? But I thought about it, thought about it. It's like, no, it was just a freaky coincidence. It's probably a birthday party down the road and it blew over and it landed on me. I can't read into this any more than that. That's it. It's a coincidence.

• 11:49Mel Robbins?

  Okay, can I ask you a question, though?

• 11:50Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 11:51Mel Robbins?

  But if you were the kind of person whose father loved blue balloons and that blue balloon had incredible meaning for you and maybe it was even like your dad's birthday today. If that had happened and the blue balloon came down, landed on you on your dad's birthday, he's died, it was his favorite color, he loved balloons, that could be a synchronicity.

• 12:14Speaker 01

  Yes, absolutely. All of a sudden, there's a sign because these events have all come together in time. The birthday, dad's death, love's blue, it means something to me.

• 12:24Mel Robbins?

  Got it. So it's more like that it elicits some sort of wonder or goosebumps or sense that this is happening for a reason. There's a message in this. Do you have an example in your own life of another synchronicity moment?

• 12:40Speaker 01

  Yeah. Okay, so let's go back to 1990, 91. And in my former life, I was a ski racing coach. So in the summertime, we would go to Europe and we would train in the glaciers of Switzerland.

• 12:52Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 12:53Speaker 01

  I meet this other coach from Massachusetts. I'm in Vermont. We start riding up the T-bar, talking, oh, this is great. Tell me about your, you know, your life. He goes, well, yeah, my mom lives in New York and, you know, my dad unfortunately was killed in a... A glider accident. A sailplane glider accident, right? Very rare.

• 13:15Speaker 01

  I said, wait a minute. I know this story. So all of a sudden I said, did this happen? Was this the accident that happened in Warren, Vermont? And the poor guy was like, ah, yeah. I had never even heard that story before, how my dad died. How do you know this? Well, it just happens. My father and his father were best friends.

• 13:36Mel Robbins?

  What?

• 13:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. My dad was a ski patrol at Snow Ridge in Turin, New York. And his dad, Roger, was a ski instructor. And they were best buddies, right? So here we are skiing in Switzerland together. My dad and his dad are best friends skiing together in the late 50s, right? Wow, this is like mind blowing. Oh, my God, how can this happen, right?

• 14:02Mel Robbins?

  Whoa. Okay, I have a crazy story.

• 14:04Speaker 01

  You could probably top me.

• 14:06Mel Robbins?

  I don't know. I have a crazy story. So when I was a sophomore at Dartmouth, I had been in a relationship for over a year with this amazing, amazing guy. And just absolutely loved him. I really regret that he met me when I was a complete disaster. I had not yet discovered that I had trauma and I was not diagnosed with anxiety yet. And so he got the worst of Mel Schneberger, which was my maiden name. But anyway, in the winter of that year, his dad died very tragically.

• 14:48Mel Robbins?

  And because his father had died very tragically as a result of profound depression, it came into question whether or not how and his sister were going to be able to stay in college. And I'll never forget that summer, we were walking across campus because sophomore year at Dartmouth, everybody stays on campus for sophomore summer. And somebody came running out to meet us and said, "The dean wants to talk to you." And it turns out that an anonymous benefactor had come forward and was paying his tuition and housing and his sister's tuition and housing.

• 15:33Mel Robbins?

  So, fast forward, that would have been 1988. Fast forward, it's now probably 1995. Howe and I broke up, go on totally different directions. I meet my now-husband, Christopher Robbins, and his best friend is visiting. And so his best friend is named Raimi, and he's now Kendall's godfather, just incredible friend of ours. And he invites us to come out to his parents' house in Princeton, New Jersey for the weekend. And so we're sitting there at Raimi's parents' house, and I'm meeting my husband's best friends from high school. And we're talking, and, "Oh, you went to Dartmouth?

• 16:17Mel Robbins?

  Oh, do you know Howe? And I'm like, "Do I know him? I've dated him." And so, all of a sudden, Raimi's mom nudges the dad and says, "I think you should tell her." It was Raimi's parents who had been the anonymous donors because Raimi's father and Howe's father had worked together when they both lived in Indiana. And so, all the stars came, and I started, obviously, sobbing, and so did they. And, you know, that was this incredible, just divine moment in my life.

• 16:55Speaker 01

  Wow, yeah, it's powerful.

• 16:58Mel Robbins?

  Mm-hmm.

• 17:00Speaker 01

  As you said, that divine peace, there's a huge universe that communicates through people and through relationships and through signed symbols, dreams, that is communicating to us. And it has this feeling of, oh, my gosh, we're connected to it. So coincidence?

• 17:19Mel Robbins?

  Absolutely not.

• 17:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's meant to be there.

• 17:22Mel Robbins?

  Yeah. Oh, look at that. I just looked at my watch, Dr. Myers, and it says 222. I'm going to call that a sign that it's time to go to break. We'll be right back.

• 17:45Mel Robbins?

  Dr. Myers, I'm a big believer in seeing signs. In your research on synchronicity, can you give us examples of signs that people can use around synchronicity?

• 17:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, so there are things that speak to us that have an emotional pull.

• 18:04Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 18:05Speaker 01

  Like we talked about, there could be numbers, okay, seeing 1111 or seeing the threes that can communicate to us. That at that moment, in an emotional time, when you need the answer, it can come to you. So examples too of seeing a heart when you're feeling down. And all of a sudden, you see a heart in the sky, in the clouds. This is communicating to me. This is what I need right now. Or a lyric. You have a certain emotion of being happy, or you have this anger, or whatever that might be. At that moment, on the radio or in your speaker, it plays this lyric that you need to hear. That is changing the perspective.

• 18:49Speaker 01

  That's what I needed at that point. How can that happen in the world where things come together in time? It's that synchronous moment.

• 18:56Mel Robbins?

  So what about animals? Because I often hear people say, you know, my mom said she'd come to me as a butterfly. I see a red-tailed hawk that flies around our property up here. And I often think that it's either Chris's dad or, you know, like my grandmother. Is that also an example of it? But it's got to have the meaning attached to it.

• 19:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, you've got to have that meaning of, you know, again, is it an animal or a spirit animal, if you will, right? That that is that person embodied in that, in that animal. And they're communicating to me.

• 19:26Mel Robbins?

  What are the benefits of bringing synchronicity into your life?

• 19:30Speaker 01

  It's confirming your value. It's confirming that you are on the right path.

• 19:35Mel Robbins?

  So how does every human being on the planet have this superpower of synchronicity awareness? What is that?

• 19:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. So think about it this way. We are all connected.

• 19:48Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  All human beings are connected somehow. All matters in life, again, physical, human nature, is connected. So is that a part of another physics piece of the wave-particle duality?

• 20:02Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 20:02Speaker 01

  That particles and waves can act like each other. They can take on different forms. I'm getting too far into the scientific piece here. But just know that we are particles.

• 20:14Mel Robbins?

  Yep.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  And made up of particles as matter. And that there are the other particles that are all made up of similar matter, right?

• 20:21Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 20:21Speaker 01

  That through the entanglement piece of quantum entanglement, that they are drawn together. There's a communication between them, that they can, they can communicate together.

• 20:31Mel Robbins?

  That there's this connection between particles that you literally are not visible to the eye, but have this incredible impact on other particles that are light years away.

• 20:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:44Mel Robbins?

  And that's the physics of this.

• 20:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:46Mel Robbins?

  Okay, so let me see if I can give you back with an example of what you're talking about. Have you ever gone into, I don't know, like a store or a cafe? And there's a person that's in a really bad mood.

• 21:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:04Mel Robbins?

  In front of you in line. And their negative mood sends waves. Like you can feel the negative energetic wave from a person like that. And when that wave of negativity hits you. The particles in your body literally shift and are impacted by that wave. Is that what you're saying?

• 21:26Speaker 01

  It's a good, it's a nice way to say that, yeah.

• 21:28Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 21:28Speaker 01

  So we are entangled with each other. We are connected with each other.

• 21:31Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 21:32Speaker 01

  It's a vibration. You're giving this off. We're picking, picking that up.

• 21:35Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 21:36Speaker 01

  Among other signals.

• 21:37Mel Robbins?

  Okay, and you are saying that it goes even deeper than that. Because I think we can all wrap our brains around the fact that other people's energy and moods and their positive or negative vibes completely can impact you. But you're actually saying something even more powerful, which is you can impact somebody halfway around the world. That there are connections between you and what you're thinking and what somebody else halfway around the world might do.

• 22:08Speaker 01

  So in a lot of my workshops I've done with synchronicity.

• 22:10Mel Robbins?

  Yes.

• 22:11Speaker 01

  I will begin by saying, okay, find someone you don't know. And I'm gonna give you, I'm timing this, three minutes. Three minutes and find a deep connection that you both share. Not like, oh, you like pizza too? Oh, I like pizza. I like going to movies. Nothing superficial.

• 22:27Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 22:28Speaker 01

  It doesn't take long to find this deep connection that is probably mind blowing, but like, oh my gosh, my brother-in-law knows so-and-so. And so there is a connection. We were at the same place at the same time, the same concert, whatever that might have been. But there are ways that, again, I say-

• 22:45Mel Robbins?

  Can you give us a specific example from one of your workshops?

• 22:48Speaker 01

  I was in Nice, France, doing a workshop. Two very analytical engineers.

• 22:55Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 22:55Speaker 01

  Sitting next to each other. Okay, give you three minutes. Find a connection. They both figured out and learned that they had taught at the same university, University of Montana, a year apart. They both worked for the same people and they were in the same office.

• 23:12Mel Robbins?

  What?

• 23:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:14Mel Robbins?

  Wow, well, I think if that happened to me, you'd immediately think to yourself, well, this has happened for a reason. So are those moments where you say, this is happening for a reason? Is that an example of a synchronicity awareness?

• 23:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:27Mel Robbins?

  Now, why does this matter? What is the importance of anybody tapping into this sort of magical power of feeling the goosebumps and the meaning in these synchronicity moments?

• 23:44Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's back to that superpower that we can tap into this

• 23:49Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 23:49Speaker 01

  and understand that the world is connected. So first, beginning with what are your thoughts? And what are your dreams? And what are your visions? Putting it out there in the universe. And then notice the connections that start to happen.

• 24:04Mel Robbins?

  Okay, so I'm now starting to have like all sorts of popcorn popping in my mind.

• 24:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 24:10Mel Robbins?

  And so let me see if I can explain what's happening in my mind. So I do talk a lot about how important it is for you to get serious about the dreams that you hold in your heart. What I'm now getting for the first time about synchronicity is that synchronicity, the way I've always experienced it in my life, is like this kind of magical moment. Okay. Where, you're right, you're thinking about a friend or somebody that you love and they all of a sudden call you out of the blue and you get goosebumps. Or I have another moment that I think about a lot where we had a very, very close friend die very tragically. And it was just absolutely horrible.

• 24:54Mel Robbins?

  He was like, he was a super close friend of ours and he was basically like our daughter's second father. A year to the date of his death, at the exact time that he died, I was driving from a soccer match where our daughters had been playing and he and my husband had been their soccer coaches. And it had been pouring rain. And so we pull into the town and as I come around the corner, the town that we all lived in, the rain suddenly stops and the skies part and there is a double rainbow, the biggest, brightest double rainbow I have ever seen. And I look at the time.

• 25:41Mel Robbins?

  And it was 5:27. And it was the exact time of his death.

• 25:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:48Mel Robbins?

  And I had to pull the car over. I actually pulled the car over. I had to take a breath because it just took my breath away. And I knew it was Fred. I knew he was there. And I took my camera out. I took a photo of the moment. And that was one of those moments for me, where there was this incredible meaning to that moment. Because of course I had been thinking about him all day.

• 26:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:14Mel Robbins?

  Everybody had, because it had been the year anniversary. And you're saying that synchronicity awareness goes beyond just recognizing those moments when they happen? That you can teach yourself how to create more of them?

• 26:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:34Mel Robbins?

  For real?

• 26:34Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 26:35Mel Robbins?

  Is one tool in those moments to go, "This is happening for a reason," and actually claim that something magical is starting to happen?

• 26:42Speaker 01

  Yep. And so I'm thinking about this story and dissecting every little piece of it, because the synchronicity of symbols, signs and symbols of the rainbows, the time, again, the exact time, that feeling that you had. You took the picture to remember that. So you see the story, and things start to fall together in time. It's communicating something to you.

• 27:04Mel Robbins?

  So people that look at like-

• 27:05Speaker 01

  And you know how powerful that feels.

• 27:07Mel Robbins?

  Beyond. Like, it just makes me, when I have a synchronicity moment, it is almost like reassuring that there's magic or something larger happening than just the mundane day-to-day that we all get sucked into. Is this related in some way to being able to trust your gut?

• 27:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:32Mel Robbins?

  How so?

• 27:34Speaker 01

  So throughout my research, I continually got this message from people. And it is so true. It just feels right. You feel that you're going in the right direction. Over and over again, I use the symbol of green lights.

• 27:50Mel Robbins?

  Okay, explain what does that mean?

• 27:52Speaker 01

  So you may be trying in your life, going in this direction, it's just not working.

• 27:58Mel Robbins?

  Okay.

• 27:59Speaker 01

  Everywhere you go, you're getting a red light. Something is just turning you and communicating to you in your gut that you know you're probably on the wrong path.

• 28:09Mel Robbins?

  Fabulous. How do you start to tap into this power inside of us? To take our internal life and have it now match what our external experience is?

• 28:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:30Mel Robbins?

  I want to become better at the synchronicity awareness. I want this in my life. And so I'm a real believer in the power of this. I've experienced it. And what I'm on a mission, though, is to demystify these things and the research so that even somebody that's analytical, because I find that a lot of people who get stuck, myself included, tend to get very right about how stuck they are and very analytical about their stuckness. So we're going to take a short break. And when we come back, Dr. Myers is going to help us tap into synchronicity.

• 29:16Mel Robbins?

  All right, welcome back, everybody. Let's jump back in. Dr. Myers? I think we all buy the fact that we're energetically connected and there are these incredible links between us, between our thoughts and the things that we want to see come true in the world. And we have to be willing to see them. But if we've proven that point, that you have the ability to find these really meaningful connections in your life, and that you have the ability to turn synchronicity into a tool, so you experience more goosebump moments, and so that your internal world starts to get reflected in the world that you see around you, how do you start to tap into this? Like, what's step number one?

• 29:57Speaker 01

  So the really cool thing is, once you start down this path, and once you start to see synchronicity, it becomes abundant. It's around you at every point. You see it everywhere. And here are some actionable items. It's quieting the mind. Notice patterns. So in my research, synchronicity comes in threes, or fours, or fives, twos. But there's a pattern. There is an interconnecting event that links to one another. And each one can be totally separate, but they all have a meaning of a connection.

• 30:32Mel Robbins?

  It sounds like a huge part of this, Dr. Myers, is being willing to label these moments as this is happening for a reason.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:45Mel Robbins?

  That there's this courage, or this confidence, that you need to start to cultivate, that, you know, that life is happening for you. And I like to say, there are signs all around you, if you're awake enough to see them. And those signs get bigger and brighter and louder if you start calling them out and thanking them. Like, we recently moved here to Southern Vermont, and this podcast I've launched in partnership with Stitcher and SXM Media, they do all the ad sales for it. And so I was in New York, and I met one of the executives at SXM Media, and she's frickin' amazing, and we just hit it off immediately. She's like, "So where do you live?"

• 31:29Mel Robbins?

  And I tell her, and she's like, "Oh, my God, my best friend just moved there, from Palm Springs. And now he and his husband are like, great friends of ours." And so for me, that's a synchronicity moment. It's not a coincidence that they moved here. I meant to know these two. I meant to know Josh and David right now, at this moment in my life.

• 31:54Speaker 01

  There's a reason.

• 31:55Mel Robbins?

  Yes, but I think the magic is in calling it out, and being willing to believe that there's a reason. That's kind of what I'm getting from this. To tap into this power, you have to be open that the power exists. And you've got to be brave enough to call it when it's happening. Because that's where the magic comes in, is in noticing the goosebumps, calling out the connection, believing that there is this force for good that is trying to guide you in the right direction. And you've got to wake your ass up and start to pay attention to it.

• 32:31Speaker 01

  And trust it.

• 32:32Mel Robbins?

  And trust it.

• 32:33Speaker 01

  Trust it, yeah. And this is the spiritual connection. In the universe, in the larger universe, the source, or your higher self.

• 32:42Mel Robbins?

  Well, I think for people that don't believe in a higher power, I think when it comes to common sense, you've experienced moments in your life where your life is aligned with your values, your purpose, the right energy, things get into a flow state. You have experienced moments like that in your life. And you've also experienced moments in your life where there's tremendous resistance, and friction, and frustration, and everything feels like a grind. And like, you're just, it's harder than it needs, and you're just, ugh. One of our daughters is in a job like that right now, where she just, oh, it just, ugh.

• 33:26Mel Robbins?

  And so, you can also think about this in terms of alignment. When your life is out of alignment, you can feel it. You can feel that you're surrounded by the wrong people, or you're in the wrong relationship, or at the wrong job. And then there are those moments where things are aligned with who you are as a person. And what that tells me, when somebody's in alignment in their decisions and their actions, is that they are kind of tapped into this synchronicity. Because what they're feeling on the inside is matching the experience on the outside. And so, I think whether you come at this from physics, or common sense, or you come at it from spirituality,

• 34:09Mel Robbins?

  there is no denying that we have all experienced these moments that you can't quite explain. These moments where you know there is something magic that is existing here.

• 34:21Mel Robbins?

  Something crazy. Like even on this podcast, we hired our executive producer Andrea. And it wasn't until she came on and she had been producing massive shows for like Gail King and Andy Cohen and had been at Sirius for a very long time, super experienced woman, that we realized, oh, my God, we worked together 15 years ago. When she got her first job in radio, I had this tiny little call-in show. And she worked on it. And now here we are 15 years later, launching this together and she's running the whole thing.

• 35:01Mel Robbins?

  And so to me, that was a synchronicity moment. Because there is something that is meant to be happening, happening. And for me personally, when I tap into that belief, that faith, if you will, whether it's a higher power, or energy, or alignment, or physics, that makes me more confident. It's like creating your own mile markers on the path of life. Every single time I see one of those, I'm like, okay, I get it. I'm on the right path. So do you think synchronicity moments are there because they are lighting the path and signaling what direction you should head in?

• 35:46Mel Robbins?

  It's almost like a reward from the universe or from the future you that you're on the right path?

• 35:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is, as you say, a guidepost for intuitively where you should go.

• 35:59Mel Robbins?

  Amazing. Well, Dr. Myers, thank you so much for being with us.

• 36:01Speaker 01

  Thank you, Mel. It's been a pleasure to be here and talk to you.

• 36:04Mel Robbins?

  Awesome. You know, one of the reasons why I love talking to experts and digging into the science is I think you and I know that life is filled with goosebump moments, that there are these cool things that happen and that we wish it would happen more often. But I personally love knowing that there's research to back it up, that it's not just this woo-woo thing that happens for some people and not others, but that this is truly a tool that you can learn to tap into, into your life. And so what I want to focus on now that we've gotten some of the foundational stuff from Dr. Myers is I want to focus on two simple tools that I use

• 36:46Mel Robbins?

  that has vastly increased the number of synchronicity moments and my synchronicity awareness. And I want you to try these two tools. And before I tell them to you, I gotta just remind you of why this matters. There is profound research, not just from Dr. Myers. I mean profound research from psychologists and scientists around the world. And based on the research from, I'm just going to tell you about three different psychologists and researchers whose work has validated why synchronicity, why luck, why believing in these signs matters.

• 37:27Mel Robbins?

  So there's a UK researcher by the name of Dr. Richard Weisman. He studies luck. In fact, he is the leading researcher on the topic. And he has specific actions and habits that you can use to create more luck and more synchronicity in your life. There's also Dr. Bittman, who is a Yale and Stanford educated medical doctor. He is now a professor at the University of Virginia. He's the creator of something called The Coincidence Project. He has been researching coincidence synchronicity forever. So much so, he even has a scale that you can use to measure whether or not something is a coincidence or it's bigger. And finally,

• 38:12Mel Robbins?

  Dr. Barbara Fredrickson at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, one of the most highly cited scholars in the history of psychology. Her research as well confirms that when you truly create a mindset where you believe in these signs, you believe in these goosebump moments, you believe that these are guideposts leading you in the right direction, there are all these benefits, one of which is, yes, you will create more meaning and purpose in your life. You will feel that thing called an upward spiral. And I have certainly felt this, and I'm going to explain in just a minute what I'm talking about. Number two, when you create synchronicity awareness, it will lessen your anxiety and stress.

• 38:56Mel Robbins?

  It just gives you a greater sense of control every time you have one of these moments. And third, you will be more resilient. If you are willing to start calling this stuff out when it happens, to label it as a sign, to label these goosebump moments, it will keep you moving forward. It'll keep you pushing through the challenges. And that's why this is so important. I've been experiencing this in my life more and more and more. So what Dr. Myers said, that the more that you fire up your synchronicity awareness, the more you're going to experience it in life. This is what I am experiencing on almost a daily basis at this point. In fact, just a couple of days ago, I was flying from Los Angeles and connecting through Chicago.

• 39:40Mel Robbins?

  And in the course of a 15-minute walk from one gate to another, three of you stopped me. That's right, three listeners to this podcast stopped me randomly on my walk from one gate to another in a 15-minute span. And you know what? Every time one of you stops me, for me, it is a synchronicity moment. It is confirmation that the stuff that I'm doing is making a difference. It creates meaning. Every time I bump into somebody, I get goosebumps. And I literally feel this upward spiral. I feel this greater sense that I have control over what I'm working on right now, where my life is headed.

• 40:24Mel Robbins?

  And every one of you, every time I bump into somebody, you know what you say? I was meant to see you today, and I believe that. I believe that. There was a couple that I bumped into that had just been the weekend, having a date weekend in Chicago. And Colleen, hi, I'm talking to you. And Colleen's husband has been an attorney for the Army for years, and he's got two years left. And he had just told his wife on their trip to Chicago that when he retires from the Army, he wants to do something else, but he doesn't know what. And you know, he then bumps into Mel Robbins, who he's been listening to. I'd call that a sign that not only should he do something else, but over the course of the next two years, he's going to figure that out by listening to the Mel Robbins

• 41:09Mel Robbins?

  podcast. And that, to me, that is a goosebump moment. That is a sign that gives you optimism. It gives you hope. It makes you keep going. Now, let me say one other thing. The reason why this is so important is because it also is programming a mindset. And I'm going to tell you right now, I guarantee you, you're using synchronicity in the negative. I bet that you are like I used to be, where you scan the world around you. And you know what you see? You see signs, but they're negative signs. Reasons why it's not going to work out for you. Reasons why you shouldn't keep going. Reasons why the world is stacked against you. I am telling you, that's good news. You want to know why?

• 41:50Mel Robbins?

  If you can see negative signs, my friend, you can flip that and you can start looking for the positive signs. And when you start identifying positive signs, reasons to believe that things are working out for you, if you can direct your mind at that, I promise you, things will work out. When you can start focusing your attention, this synchronicity awareness, this superpower inside of you, and you can aim it towards scanning the world for reasons to keep going, you, my friend, will keep going. And so now, let me give you the two tools, because these two tools matter. Simple things that I have been doing for years, I have taught them to hundreds of

• 42:32Mel Robbins?

  thousands of people, these simple tools work, and I want you to try them. And So, one of the best places to start is tool number one, and that is allow yourself to want things. Get clear about what's on the road ahead, just like I bumped into that couple. And the husband is clear that on the road ahead, two years from now, when he retires from the Army, he wants to begin a whole new chapter. Once you're clear about what you want, about the kind of person you want to be, what you want to see on the road of life, mile markers down the road, guess what? You can fire up your synchronicity awareness to help you start spotting signs that that

• 43:17Mel Robbins?

  thing that you want in the future is in fact coming for you. And one of the best places to start is by adding a simple habit to your morning routine or your evening routine that is going to help you get clear. It's going to help you claim these things that you desire. It's going to help that person that you want to become in the future to come into clearer focus. And so, how do you do that? Simple. Every day, you're just going to write down five things that you want. That's it. And if you'd like help with this habit, you want to make this a habit to get clear about who you are becoming, what's on the road of life, what you want, I got you. Just go to melrobbins.com/dreambig. And I've got a sheet that thousands of you have already downloaded.

• 44:02Mel Robbins?

  You're using it in order to become clear about what you want. Once you're clear about these things that you want, synchronicity doesn't become random. You are firing up your awareness so that your internal thoughts, the things that you desire, will start to match the signs and the things that happen on the outside. That's how you do this. Because this all begins with what's inside your mind. And that brings me to tool number two. Tool number two is look for hearts. Don't worry, I'm going to explain this to you because I wrote about this tool extensively in my book, The High Five Habit. And I've been doing this for years.

• 44:44Mel Robbins?

  It is a daily habit, and I didn't realize until recently that looking for hearts is an example of training your brain for synchronicity. The assignment is very simple. Today, when you're done listening to this podcast, I want you to look around and just find the symbol of a heart naturally occurring anywhere. It could be the shape of a cloud. It could be a heart on the top of your coffee. It could be a stain on the floor of the garage. It could be a leaf. Honestly, it could be absolutely anything that you spot naturally occurring somewhere in the world during your day in the shape of a heart. And you know, the thing that's interesting about this exercise, Find a Heart, is that

• 45:27Mel Robbins?

  once you start doing it, you're going to see them everywhere, which is evidence that by simply looking for hearts occurring in the natural world, you are reprogramming your mind. In fact, last night, I noticed somebody tagged me online, and she was riding Peloton. And as she's riding Peloton, she looked up, and in front of her, beyond the screen, was a bookcase. And up on the bookcase was a vase. And somehow, coming through the window, the sunlight had made the perfect shape of a heart on that vase. And she called it out.

• 46:08Mel Robbins?

  And so, when you look around today, whether it's a leaf or a spot, my dog has, I realized after we got our puppy, he has a spot on his nose that is a heart. And I'm like, if that's not synchronicity, like this is the dog that's meant for me. And when you see the heart, I want you to, just for a second, open your mind and your heart to this kind of cheesy notion that will change your life. And tell yourself that that heart was placed there for you to find.

• 46:45Mel Robbins?

  Because when you allow yourself to kind of experience life as a gigantic scavenger hunt, that every day there are clues all around you, clues that tell you you're on the right path or the wrong path, clues that are there to help you feel more confident and full of faith that you're heading in the right direction, that things are going to get better, that you're meant for more, when you can turn your life into a giant scavenger hunt, it is the most incredible thing in the world. And looking for hearts, or seeing angel numbers, or any other sign that might make you feel a little empowered, this isn't some cheesy thing to do.

• 47:29Mel Robbins?

  Not only is there neuroscience around how you're reprogramming the filter in your brain when you intentionally fire up your awareness and you look for signs, but I think something really, really important is happening too. Seeing signs, looking for meaning and synchronicities, it provides guardrails. And these guardrails, they keep you going. They make you feel less alone. And right now, you may feel really alone, but I want you to know you're not. You can use this heart exercise as a way to start to see synchronicity. We're dealing with an epidemic of loneliness, and it's impacting everybody.

• 48:14Mel Robbins?

  So whether you're flying high right now, and you need to look for signs and synchronicities in order to land the biggest deal of your life, or you need to look for signs and synchronicities just to make it through another day, this can help. The truth is, synchronicity, signs, it can help you believe again. In fact, as we were just wrapping up the recording of this episode, an email came in, I kid you not, at 4:14, and I just happened to glance at it as we were literally about to go, "Okay, episode's done on synchronicities." Eliza, who's a listener to this podcast, wrote in to the website for the form for the podcast.

• 48:59Mel Robbins?

  And here's what it said. "I don't want anything, Mel. I just want you to know that I was literally on the verge of ending my life. And then I met you, my new friend. You're the one human on the planet, right now, who is able to keep me on this earth, and you don't even know me. Thank you. Also, I finally found one heart. I've been looking for days. It's a piece of coral. And I love you for telling me to look for hearts. Again, I don't want anything, just to say thank you for saving my life."

• 49:39Mel Robbins?

  This email, to me,

• 49:42Mel Robbins?

  was synchronicity.

• 49:45Mel Robbins?

  It came in at exactly the right time.

• 49:49Mel Robbins?

  It has extraordinary meaning for me, because something felt missing from the episode. And what was missing was

• 49:59Mel Robbins?

  this synchronicity. Something profound to show you that these simple things that I'm telling you work, actually do. That sometimes all you need is to see a piece of coral in the shape of a heart.

• 50:18Mel Robbins?

  And tell yourself that it was put there for you, to remind you that, yes, you are loved. And, yes, you have a life that is worth living. And, yes, you have the strength and the courage to get through whatever it is that you're facing. And that the synchronicities and the signs are all around you, that you have a big and beautiful life that is waiting for you.

• 50:49Mel Robbins?

  So, Eliza, thank you.

• 50:53Mel Robbins?

  And keep looking for hearts, because now that you have found one piece of coral...

• 50:59Mel Robbins?

  That reticular activating system in your brain, that filter that helps you spot synchronicities, guess what? You just programmed it today. And now it's going to help you see even more. Thank you for taking the time to write in. And God, I just love this because what it shows is that when you tap into the science of synchronicity, you're not only training your brain for miracles, you're actually bringing a tool into your life that is an act of self-love, self-support, self-confidence, self-resilience. Talk about a superpower. Amazing. And I can't wait to hear all the other stories of synchronicity that come rolling through.

• 51:43Mel Robbins?

  So please, go to melrobbins.com and on the topic form, share your stories about synchronicity. Tell us about the hearts that you're seeing. Or better yet, post a photo of yourself with one and tag us so we can repost you and cheer you forward. I can't wait to see what synchronicities show up today. And I can't wait to hear what you do with this episode, too. So in case nobody else tells you, I want to tell you that I love you, I believe in you, and I believe in your ability to create a better life and to fill it with more of these goosebump moments. Now go get out there and live it today, and I'll talk to you in a couple days.