Kylie & Ms. Rachel on Surprising Celeb DMs, Spelling Out Swears & Teen Slang Pop Quiz | Ep. 30

Kylie’s back for a brand new episode of Not Gonna Lie presented by Lululemon and kicks off the show by getting honest about her high school field hockey team’s preseason and how she’s preparing as a coach by catching up on all the latest teen slang (2:25). Kylie gives hilarious guesses for the meanings of new slang phrases like “aura farming” and “glazing.” Then in Doomscroll of the Week, Kylie was tagged countless times in the announcement that “Love Is Blind” is officially casting in Philadelphia (8:212) so she weighs in on what a Philly season would look like and also offers some Philly specific dating red and green flags for the contestants to keep in mind. After that, Kylie is joined by Kids TV sensation, YouTuber, author and host of the number one children’s show on Netflix so far this year: Ms. Rachel (12:35)! Kylie shares the message Bennie asked her to give Ms. Rachel, as well as the girls’ favorite Ms. Rachel songs. Kylie congratulates Rachel on the success of her show and asks her about which celebrities she’s been the most surprised to hear were fans of the show (15:01). Rachel then tells Kylie about the origins of her YouTube channel, as well as her iconic outfit, starting with that pink headband (17:30)! Then, Kylie asks Ms. Rachel about the science behind her “sing-song” voice and what she’s really like when she’s home with her friends and not in full “Ms. Rachel mode” for work (20:15). Kylie also has Rachel play a game where she gives Ms. Rachel style pointers to adults for a change who clearly need some more instruction on basic social decency (29:03)! After that, Kylie asks Rachel about the quote “all screen time is not created equal” and the two of them discuss their favorite PBS shows (32:50). Also, speaking of PBS, Kylie asks Ms. Rachel about the comparison she often gets to Mister Rogers and what that means to her (35:45). Plus, we also get to hear the most humbling thing Rachel remembers her son saying to her (41:50). Make sure you tune into More Sh*t Monday on the Not Gonna Lie YouTube channel for more exclusive clips from Kylie’s longer conversation with Ms. Rachel! . . . Purchase NGL Merch: www.nglkylie.com Support the Show: Lululemon: Shop the new Align No Line™ Pant at https://shop.lululemon.com/ It’s the Summer of Align No Line Pre-Order Ms. Rachel’s New Picture Book: https://www.amazon.com/Ms-Rachel-Bean-Bedtime-Routine/dp/B0F1JSQ2PL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:42Kylie Kelce?

  I'm not gonna lie, before we started recording, I had both an everything bagel and a gooey chocolate chip cookie. So I was really living life on the edge. I did check for seeds in my teeth and chocolate on my face, though. So hopefully, I got all of it. Let's get this podcast started.

• 1:03Kylie Kelce?

  Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a Wave original, brought to you by Lululemon. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey. I'm permanently late. I famously do not lie, except to my children. And I sent Queen Emma no less than seven photos of turtles when we went to the zoo the other day. I didn't want her to miss out. Look at how lovely these photos are. Well, now that that's been addressed, coming up on today's episode, I'm about to start coaching high school field hockey again very soon. Yes, that's right. I haven't let it go, and I won't. I haven't had a fall without field hockey since 7th grade, either coaching or playing myself. We have actually a segment today to catch us up on the latest Gen Z terms, because I can't keep up with the slang that they use,

• 1:46Kylie Kelce?

  and I need to know what the hell my players are saying. Also, a lot of you have tagged me in the announcement of Love is Blind casting in Philly. And I've got a lot of thoughts and a few tips for anyone auditioning. After that, I'm going to be joined by the kids TV phenomenon in my house, and likely all of yours. She has 16 million YouTube subscribers, the most streamed kids series on Netflix, and a A pair of overalls you'd recognize anywhere. The one and only Miss Rachel. Moving on, let's get into a brand new addition of Can I Be Honest? My high school field hockey preseason is about to start very soon. People are extremely surprised by the fact that I still coach high school field hockey, but I love it. I love my athletes.

• 2:30Kylie Kelce?

  I love still getting to be around the sport of field hockey. I love the fact that all of my girls who are seniors I have been with for all four years because I've been there that long. And I feel very honored and privileged to be able to spend time with them and help them understand why I love the sport the way I do and also teach them something, I hope. I hope. Now, I do like to take some time to prep before the season starts and I figured I'd start right now by catching up on the latest Gen Z and Gen Alpha slang. I didn't even know we were, have we moved on from Gen Z?

• 3:13Kylie Kelce?

  We're on to Gen Alpha. Kiss my ass. Wait, the children that are in high school were born after I graduated high school? Let's have a moment of silence for this realization, please. That sucks. Wow, this is not a moment I was prepared to handle this morning. Okay. Wow. Woo, okay. Now, I will put it out there that my players are typically very kind in that they do not throw too much slang at me because they know I have a very limited capacity for this type of thing, but we're gonna try our best.

• 3:57Kylie Kelce?

  In past seasons, I've learned all types of new phrases. Sus, bet, riz, cap. I'm still not sure about cap. It's a brand new year with brand new slang. The slang I've never heard, so let's change that right now. I have a stack of note cards right here.

• 4:15Kylie Kelce?

  With official definitions from parents.com. So it's, that means it's something that a millennial mom can hopefully follow. I'll take a guess on what they mean. And then I'll read you the actual definition so that we can both learn together. Cause I just, just even,

• 4:34Kylie Kelce?

  even glancing at what's coming up, I am certain I have no freaking idea. So number one is chat.

• 4:44Kylie Kelce?

  There's no way this means anything more than we're gonna sit down and have a chat. We're gonna chit chat. Oh my God, this is so bad. What? A term of address that refers to an audience or group of people. The term chat is similar to bra or dude. No, that's not a thing. Chat, what's up? Or chat, is this real?

• 5:08Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, so you're text, you're addressing the whole group chat. Okay. Okay. Okay. I got this. That's, that's dumb. Just gonna throw that one out there. Sorry. That was mean, but I stand by it. Number two, clock it.

• 5:28Kylie Kelce?

  Another, another way to say it is clock that tea.

• 5:34Kylie Kelce?

  What? Clock it is like,

• 5:39Kylie Kelce?

  I'm gonna assume it's, it has to be something related to like, you're timing it. Clock it? Let's see. Used to call out hidden truth or expose someone's real motive in a playful or knowing way. It's a way of saying, I see what's really going on. I can get down with that. I can, I like that. I like to clock things, so clock it. That's nice. I like that. I'm gonna keep that one. Number three is aura farming.

• 6:07Kylie Kelce?

  What? Maybe it's when you take from someone's positive energy and like, turn it into your own positive energy? I don't know. That's wow. Oh. No, that's not what it is. Used to describe someone who is trying to project a certain self-image to avoid being judged, similar to a tryhard. Okay. Bro is aura farming. What the fuck is happening? Number four is glazing. I'm hoping this isn't something out of the

• 6:46Kylie Kelce?

  Oh God, my head, it just went to like, glazing has to be what happens after glazing. Maybe it's, maybe it's wearing a lot of jewelry. Maybe it's like, we've all seen how to lose a guy in 10 days. Maybe this is like a ice yourself, frost yourself situation. Maybe it's glazing. Maybe we're, we've moved on from frosting. Now we're glazing. Is that what it is? No, of course not. Why would that be what it is? Uh, over the top flattery to the point of being kind of embarrassing. It's when someone hypes up a person so much that it starts to feel performative or fake. Use in a sentence, bro is glazing.

• 7:29Kylie Kelce?

  Okay. I did not know what a single one of these things meant, but now I know. So clock it. It wasn't right either. The article from parents.com also lists some terms to watch for. Good God.

• 7:49Kylie Kelce?

  My ball.

• 7:53Kylie Kelce?

  My ball, unk and buns. Okay. I can't.

• 8:00Kylie Kelce?

  I don't have any guesses on my, Queen Emma's asking in the rundown, if I have any guesses on my ball. No, I do not have guesses on my ball. Is buns really Gen Z slang? No, buns is always, if buns is exactly what I think it is, like that's buns, like that's ass cheeks. Like that's terrible. That's what it means. And if it's not that, I don't want it. Okay. There are some things that we should just let be and buns is one of them. So if you're trying to make buns into your own thing, Gen Z, Gen Alpha, you can kiss my buns. Cause no. Okay. That's it for can I be honest? Let me know what I missed at NGL with Kylie. Feel free to send in any other terms that um, maybe your kids are using that you would like to educate me on.

• 8:46Kylie Kelce?

  Because I do feel a little lost, but I think we can get through this together. Next up, let's move on. It's doom scroll of the week. First up on doom scroll, I scrolled my way through my mentions to find that you all tagged me, a lot of you tagged me. And the announcement for love is blind because it's officially casting in Philadelphia.

• 9:09Kylie Kelce?

  Hmm. They are looking for a dumpster fire. You know what they're gonna do? Find one. Okay. Uh, at Alicia McGuire quoted Fox 29 Phillies announcement with, "I'm gonna need Kylie and Jason to co-host this." At Jason Kelsey, at NGL with Kylie. Uh, first of all, shout out to Nick and Vanessa LaChey who host the show. We are not coming for your jobs. We actually, I'm, I'm gonna speak for both of us when I say, "We don't want it." Um, I don't watch this show. Shocker. Um, but I, what I will say is, is there is a small chance that I watch the Philadelphia edition.

• 9:54Kylie Kelce?

  Because there is something about when a show is related to or based in Philadelphia, we can't get enough of it. It's like the most self-centered, self-serving. We're like, "Yeah, let's watch it and enjoy it and then feed off of the comments of people who are watching it and like, "Wow, this is, this is terrible," or "This is a dumpster fire," or "Did you hear their accents? That sounds, they don't even know how to say the word water."

• 10:27Kylie Kelce?

  It's fun. It feeds us. I'm not kidding. I really think it like excites the masses in Philadelphia. When Mayor of Easttown came out, that was like,

• 10:37Kylie Kelce?

  that was incredible. Some Philly dating red flags that we can put out there for contestants. Queen Emma put a couple in the rundown and we, she absolutely nailed this one. Okay? Being from the Philadelphia area, but rooting for the Cowboys. You're just trying to piss people off. And it's working. Fuck the Cowboys. Uh, calling pork roll, Taylor ham. Run. Do you want to know why you should run? If they're calling pork roll, Taylor ham, they're trying to coax your ass across the bridge to Jersey. Don't do it. Run. If someone doesn't care about the 2008 World Series.

• 11:15Kylie Kelce?

  No, you're done. You're done. We don't have anything else to talk about there. Philly area dating green flags.

• 11:26Kylie Kelce?

  If they grew up going to the shore, specifically saying, "We go down the shore in the summer."

• 11:34Kylie Kelce?

  Saying words like "hoagie." Maybe they frequent a "wawa."

• 11:41Kylie Kelce?

  Maybe has a cat named Chase Utley. That call is coming from inside the house for sure, because that was our cat's name. That's it for doom scroll of the week. Miss Rachel is coming up soon. Again, no business, none whatsoever. But first, Lululemon. The real ones already know I'm a big fan of Lululemon. In fact, I'm wearing Lululemon right now. Because I don't really know how much of my closet isn't Lululemon at this point. This, these shirts are great because it's nice and like appropriately fitted. But then I can also stretch it out and fit a baby under it. Isn't that fun? For modest breastfeeding. I like it.

• 12:24Kylie Kelce?

  And this summer, my love for Lululemon only grew more with our yoga class on the beach that they helped put on. And of course, the introduction of their new Align No Line leggings. The Align No Lines are the famously soft iconic Align pant now with no front seam for a smoother look and feel. The Align No Lines are made from that famously soft buttery fabric that sweat wicking and has four-way stretch. I know about that four-way stretch because I wear them through pregnancy and then they still fit afterwards. So good. Plus they're high-rise and they have a convenient waistband pocket. You can put a key in there, a credit card, a little cash.

• 13:07Kylie Kelce?

  For any real ones who haven't tried these leggings yet, you can shop the new Align No Line Pant right now at lululemon.com. It's the summer of Align No Line. Whether you're a parent, grandparent, an aunt, an uncle, or simply just a person, honestly, you've heard of her wildly successful YouTube channel, Netflix show, hit songs, and kids toys. And there's no mistaking that iconic voice, pink shirt, and overalls. She's also a New York Times bestselling author, an educator, a fellow mom, and now she's officially, not gonna lie, Rachel, AKA Miss Rachel, welcome to the show.

• 13:45Speaker 03

  Thank you so much for having me. I'm a big fan.

• 13:47Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, thank you so much for being here. I'm not gonna lie, this episode has been a long time in the making. We're huge fans of you in our house, big, big fans.

• 13:56Speaker 03

  That's so sweet.

• 13:57Kylie Kelce?

  Now, the girls first started watching, obviously on YouTube, they were big music kids. Like, they love singing songs. Specifically, Hop Little Bunnies is a big hit in our house.

• 14:10Speaker 03

  I love Hop Little Bunny so much.

• 14:12Kylie Kelce?

  It's so good, and everyone lays down and they're sleeping, you know, the whole thing. We do the whole thing.

• 14:18Speaker 03

  I love, yeah, Suzie, my, my new little baby, she's almost six months, and we were hopping like bunnies together this morning, and she doesn't even understand what a bunny is or sleeping, but she loves it. Yeah.

• 14:31Kylie Kelce?

  Because it's just a good time and they know it. I did tell the girls that I was meeting you today. Well, I told our third, Benny, that I was meeting you today, and I asked if she wanted me to tell you anything. And she said she wanted me to tell you that Ellie broke the cup. So she's using this opportunity to rat out her sister.

• 14:51Speaker 03

  Yep. It's okay to accidentally break things, right?

• 14:54Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 14:55Speaker 03

  Yes, we love mistakes.

• 14:56Kylie Kelce?

  I'm still unsure what cup she was talking about, but she felt strongly about that's what you needed to know.

• 15:02Speaker 03

  I appreciate that.

• 15:03Kylie Kelce?

  We are, of course, far from alone in our love of your show. Miss Rachel is officially the number one kids show on Netflix so far this year. Congratulations.

• 15:12Speaker 03

  Thank you so much.

• 15:13Kylie Kelce?

  How cool was that to see?

• 15:15Speaker 03

  Um, everything surprises me. I guess we're kind of in denial about that. But it's nice because we're like, wow, yeah, I appreciate it so much. It makes me so happy and I feel so grateful that so many families enjoy it and find those moments of joy singing together and bonding. And I just feel like the luckiest person ever. I have the best job in the world.

• 15:39Kylie Kelce?

  Now, I was pleasantly surprised to see that Robert De Niro is a Miss Rachel fan. And that you sent a video for his daughter to Drew Barrymore's show.

• 15:49Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 15:50Kylie Kelce?

  We actually have the clip right here for our viewers, Queen Emma.

• 15:53Speaker 04

  Hi, Gia. It's Miss Rachel. What's that? It's a taxi. What does a taxi driver say? Are you talking to me?

• 16:11Kylie Kelce?

  Who has been the person who is a fan of you that was the most surprising? Because I feel like, right, like Robert De Niro.

• 16:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I am elderly, and so I don't.

• 16:26Kylie Kelce?

  Do not say that.

• 16:27Speaker 03

  I'm an elderly millennial, or elder millennial, I think it's called. So I'm not amazing with Instagram, so I didn't know about the requests and top requests. So I ghosted some people for like months. Anyway, so I'm not a like cool person who like knows a lot about celebrities. So when I saw a bad girl, Riri, I was like, wow, this person has so many followers. And then I was like, this is such a cute little profile picture because it's a drawing. No idea. Asked somebody, I asked people who were around, I was like, do you know who this is? And then, yeah, I realized it was Rihanna.

• 17:11Kylie Kelce?

  Small flex, tiny little flex. That's, that, did you like gasp?

• 17:17Speaker 03

  I did, I did. I was like, wow. And, um, yeah, that was crazy. I'm trying to think of who else.

• 17:25Kylie Kelce?

  I don't know if you can talk, can you talk, Rihanna?

• 17:27Speaker 03

  You know, I did, I did get to sing with John Legend. That was so cool. I was a fan of him way back in high school. I loved piano pop and I love all the pianists like Sara Bareilles and. Throwback to like Billy Joel, Stevie Wonder. And so, um, yeah, I was like, whoa, that's so cool. And I knew an album that he was like, nobody knows that album and it's not even available anymore. And I was like, I can sing every song on that album.

• 17:55Kylie Kelce?

  I'm like barely a fan, but I can sing you every song from an album that no longer is available. That's awesome. Um, for anyone listening who isn't familiar with your background, you're very open to what led to your first YouTube channel and that was your son's speech delay?

• 18:10Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. He had a severe speech delay. Um, he didn't talk till he was about three.

• 18:16Kylie Kelce?

  Really?

• 18:16Speaker 03

  Yeah. I think the first word was two years and nine months.

• 18:19Kylie Kelce?

  Okay.

• 18:19Speaker 03

  Yeah. So, um, he's so bright and, um, just the sweetest, most wonderful little guy. And as a mom, when you see them struggle with something, I mean, I know you know, like, it just breaks your heart because you're like, oh my gosh, how do I, how do I fix this? And I feel like a lot of moms will, you know, I would stay up all night and learn about speech. I got a mouth puppet that I don't use on the show, but I like literally got a mouth puppet and would do like tongue, mouth, huge puppet things to him to try and help him. I was telling your producers that, um, when he was little, I used to put on like some Paw Patrol and then I would edit and interrupt it and be like, it's mommy.

• 19:02Speaker 03

  And I do like a few speech with things with him.

• 19:05Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 19:05Speaker 03

  I'd be like, same me. And then I'd be like, back to Paw Patrol.

• 19:10Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, like a little speech commercial?

• 19:11Speaker 03

  Own thing. Yeah. Um, because I was telling them that he watched it and he didn't really get that, like, it wasn't like entertaining and cool. I mean, he didn't get that it was like me making him watch it. And then once he could talk, he was like, no mommy show. Yeah. Cause he was like, I think I can just hang out with you and like do things with you and like then watch my shows.

• 19:35Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 19:36Speaker 03

  So.

• 19:36Kylie Kelce?

  Use the TV for things that I don't get to see face to face.

• 19:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:40Kylie Kelce?

  Sure. Like I mentioned before, the music from your show is a hit in our house, but, um, you just mentioned how your husband, Aaron, is a Broadway composer. Have you guys ever talked about doing a Miss Rachel Broadway musical?

• 19:54Speaker 03

  We would love to do a live show.

• 19:55Kylie Kelce?

  That would be very cool.

• 19:57Speaker 03

  And thank you for noticing the music. I really appreciate that because Aaron,

• 20:05Speaker 03

  he does a lot of like underscoring, which not everyone appreciates, but if you don't have it, it's like, where's that?

• 20:10Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 20:10Speaker 03

  Underscoring. He's just a brilliant pianist. And then we write a lot of songs together. And then he writes songs and himself. And then he has like live instruments play on the track sometimes, which I really appreciate. And he has Broadway friends he has on. And yeah, we actually co-create the show completely together. And I have to give him a shout out because people usually say just the music, but it's like, yeah, it's it's equal and I kind of get all the credit. So I love you, Aaron. Love you, babe.

• 20:41Kylie Kelce?

  Good job, Aaron.

• 20:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:43Kylie Kelce?

  Couldn't do it without you.

• 20:44Speaker 03

  Keep going. Wait, what's like, go, Mr. Aaron.

• 20:46Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 20:46Speaker 03

  Stop, Mr. Aaron.

• 20:49Kylie Kelce?

  Well, in addition to your music, I love how educational your show is, especially when it comes to language development. And your voice and the way you speak is a huge part of that, right? And I believe that, I'm not sure that if it was you or someone else was explaining because someone had made a comment about your voice, like a parent. And I'm not sure if it was you or someone else, but I remember seeing someone sort of do the breakdown of like, that sing-song voice is actually a tactic in sort of like speech pathology and trying to get kids to sort of sing it back to you almost. What do you say to people who like comment on your voice in the show? Because obviously it is not your everyday voice.

• 21:34Speaker 03

  You know, so I, well, in all cultures, naturally, people raise their voice talking to babies. And now that I know that science, I always watch it. And it's so interesting to watch like a guy be like, hey, how are you? Hi. And I'm like, wow, you really like, yeah, it's really cute. So something I do that I had heard Mr. Rogers does is I imagine one kid, often like a kid I worked with before, or like just saw doing Make-A-Wish, or just a kid that like, you know, Pull my heartstrings and um fills my heart with joy. And so I I imagine them and then that voice just comes out.

• 22:16Speaker 03

  My voice has always been high, like um since I am an elder millennial. I remember in high school being like, hello, and people be like, is your mommy there? And I'd be like, I'm fifteen. So I've always had a high voice.

• 22:29Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 22:30Speaker 03

  Um, naturally a soprano. But um, yeah, so it's it's interesting to like, when you talk to a baby, you elongate it like, hello.

• 22:40Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 22:40Speaker 03

  And it sings songy. And that's kind of just like my personality, too. So it it works out that it works for the show really well. And it's it's backed by science.

• 22:49Kylie Kelce?

  Now, when you first meet parents who have watched the show, how often do you have to politely ask them to call you Rachel and not Miss Rachel?

• 22:57Speaker 03

  Um, my friends that I've known for twenty years will, a Miss Rachel will come out. And I'm like, you cannot call me Miss Rachel.

• 23:07Kylie Kelce?

  You knew me as Rachel before I was Miss Rachel.

• 23:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm like, what are you doing? So no, right away, if people message me and they're like, hey, Miss Rachel, and they go, you can call me Rachel.

• 23:18Kylie Kelce?

  My name's actually Rachel. So weird.

• 23:20Speaker 03

  And when I taught, I was Miss Accorso. So, yeah, so I'm like, oh.

• 23:24Kylie Kelce?

  So it is very much tied to

• 23:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:27Kylie Kelce?

  the current phenomenon.

• 23:30Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 23:30Kylie Kelce?

  I love that. Now, Miss Rachel's also got a signature look. Uh, kids recognize your pink shirt, your overalls and your headbands anywhere. And one of my favorite TikToks of yours is explaining the origin story of the pink headband. Queen Emma's gonna play it for us.

• 23:47Speaker 03

  Yay. Why did you decide to wear a headband for the Miss Rachel outfit?

• 23:59Kylie Kelce?

  As someone who has Flyaways myself.

• 24:03Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 24:03Kylie Kelce?

  I love that.

• 24:04Speaker 03

  Has Jason ever just talked to you normally when your hair is like Aaron has talked to me normally when there's like a huge thing and then those and I'm like, hey babe, and he's like, hey. And he doesn't say anything.

• 24:20Kylie Kelce?

  Yes, a number of times where I've ended up back in front of a mirror and been like, how did you keep a straight face?

• 24:27Speaker 03

  Like, it will be like so and he doesn't.

• 24:31Kylie Kelce?

  It's screaming and it's nearly touching their nose and you're like, you didn't want to tell me my flyaways were so out of control.

• 24:37Speaker 03

  He doesn't care. It's cute though that they're just like.

• 24:40Kylie Kelce?

  It's very sweet.

• 24:43Kylie Kelce?

  Now, we've been talking about Miss Rachel and your on-screen persona. I'd love to ask you more about yourself.

• 24:50Speaker 03

  That's so kind.

• 24:51Kylie Kelce?

  There's something I've really wanted to ask. When you are fully able to be Rachel, you're at home with your friends. Do you swear?

• 25:04Speaker 03

  Oh, my goodness. So.

• 25:07Kylie Kelce?

  I feel like you just answered.

• 25:09Speaker 03

  Wonder like, I was like, am I gonna come on? There's gonna be a lot of swearing because I I noticed it in the other episodes. But I was like, you totally can. But okay, so my new thing is spelling swears. I say holy S H I T.

• 25:25Kylie Kelce?

  Love it.

• 25:25Speaker 03

  And Thomas spells, so he's like, why are you smelling shit?

• 25:30Speaker 03

  So it's not useful, but I keep spelling it. And it doesn't help him.

• 25:35Kylie Kelce?

  I mean, it lands it a little lighter. I feel like that's like as if when we were younger and I'd be like H E double hockey stick because I wasn't allowed to say hell, you know? I feel like it lands it a little softer. I like that. No, I like it.

• 25:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, I do, especially like when I used to play Super Mario Brothers. That's when it would come out.

• 25:58Kylie Kelce?

  Are you competitive?

• 25:59Speaker 03

  No, but with Super Mario Brothers, it's just like you fall into that hole and you're just like. Yeah.

• 26:06Kylie Kelce?

  I love that.

• 26:07Speaker 03

  I feel like swears don't sound right coming out of my voice, though. That's part of it.

• 26:11Kylie Kelce?

  That's okay. I feel like with small kids, it lessens your ability to have the time to like it's you, you decrease sometimes the availability of your swears. Like you're saying, you

• 26:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:25Kylie Kelce?

  spell them out. Every so often, one will pop out and they really do not happen often, which is hilarious considering how often I use them.

• 26:32Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 26:33Kylie Kelce?

  But every so often, one will happen and I have a moment of, yeah, I'm just not going to acknowledge that one because I do think it feeds it a little bit. Like I think when you acknowledge it.

• 26:43Speaker 03

  Thomas is a detector.

• 26:45Kylie Kelce?

  Hmm. Okay.

• 26:46Speaker 03

  He's rooms away and he's like, did I hear shit? What, what happened?

• 26:51Kylie Kelce?

  What'd you do? What'd you mess up?

• 26:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:53Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah. No, ours, ours are funny because they will pick out words that are not typical swears in other houses. So like, we're not allowed to say shut up in our house. Even the suggestion of it makes me like itchy.

• 27:07Speaker 03

  We, we don't say a few things.

• 27:09Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah. Stupid.

• 27:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, we don't say stupid either. And once in a while I'll be like, that's stupid. And Thomas is like, we don't say stupid.

• 27:15Kylie Kelce?

  So that's where they, if anyone in the house says the word stupid, someone in the house is going to be like, did you just say?

• 27:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:23Kylie Kelce?

  Who said stupid? And you're like, wasn't me, it was her. Because that's the words they latch on to, but they will not latch on to the grown up words the same way anymore.

• 27:34Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 27:34Kylie Kelce?

  Which I think, I don't know if it's a brag or what, but they've been so desensitized by the usage of them in our house that they're just like, that's not exciting anymore.

• 27:46Speaker 03

  Oh, that's a good tip. Try it at home.

• 27:51Kylie Kelce?

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• 28:34Kylie Kelce?

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• 28:49Speaker 00

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• 29:18Speaker 01

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• 29:45Kylie Kelce?

  Well, I'd love to play a quick game if you're up for it.

• 29:48Speaker 03

  I am.

• 29:49Kylie Kelce?

  We sometimes do a segment on here called Coach Me Up, where I have guests coach me up on something they're an expert on. But this time, I'm wondering if you, as Miss Rachel, can coach up regular adults who could use some Miss Rachel-style pointers on basic social decency.

• 30:04Speaker 03

  Aww.

• 30:05Kylie Kelce?

  So I'll give you the scenario, and you, as Miss Rachel, can tell us hypothetically, tell the hypothetical adult what they could maybe do differently.

• 30:15Speaker 03

  Okay, great.

• 30:15Kylie Kelce?

  Okay, so the first one is, you're on a plane, and the person sitting next to you is blasting music from their laptop with no headphones. And people around you are pissed. And the music isn't even good.

• 30:28Speaker 03

  Oh, man. I think Miss Rachel would say...

• 30:35Speaker 03

  Is there any way possible you could use headphones?

• 30:38Kylie Kelce?

  That's such a gentle way. Oh, I love that. Okay. Number two, you're out with your friend. You're out with them and their new boyfriend.

• 30:46Speaker 03

  They have a new boyfriend.

• 30:48Kylie Kelce?

  He won't stop staring at his phone. He's not engaged in the conversation. He's not asking any questions. He's just doom scrolling. First of all, I'm gonna give you some advice. Dump him. What would Miss Rachel say?

• 31:04Speaker 03

  Well, she'd probably ask him a question to try and get involved in the conversation.

• 31:08Kylie Kelce?

  Perfect.

• 31:08Speaker 03

  And then she'd probably wait till after and be like, I noticed that

• 31:15Speaker 03

  Bobby was on his phone a lot and, you know, what, what do we think about that?

• 31:24Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 31:24Kylie Kelce?

  Yes, no, that's good. I like it. Okay, this is the, this is the last one and it's totally definitely hypothetical. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. You're out on your first date with a guy you met on Tinder.

• 31:39Kylie Kelce?

  And he drank too many beers, really weird. And he fell asleep at the table and his friend had to fireman carry him home. What would Miss Rachel say to him?

• 31:48Speaker 03

  I would say, I would say to you, you should marry him.

• 31:53Kylie Kelce?

  Great foreshadow.

• 31:54Speaker 03

  Because I've seen your show. But I wish I didn't know that story, but I do.

• 32:01Kylie Kelce?

  That does it for Coach Me Up. Thank you for playing.

• 32:03Speaker 03

  That was fun.

• 32:04Kylie Kelce?

  Now, something else I've been so excited to talk to you about is motherhood. You're a mom of two now. Congratulations on your little girl.

• 32:10Speaker 03

  And on your new one.

• 32:12Kylie Kelce?

  Thank you. Now, I've said this before on the show, but people will often say that because I have four kids, I know what I'm doing. Which I do not.

• 32:25Kylie Kelce?

  Because you are Miss Rachel, do people assume that you have some, achieved some level of like expert parent?

• 32:32Speaker 03

  Yes, and I like to be like, I'm just a regular mom.

• 32:35Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 32:36Speaker 03

  Yes, and something that I think about all the time is this quote, there's no way to be a perfect mom, but there's a million ways to be a good mom. And so I go for the good mom.

• 32:49Kylie Kelce?

  That feels good. It feels attainable.

• 32:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. And I don't need to be the best mom. I need to be a loving mom.

• 32:56Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 32:57Speaker 03

  And I have a lot of unconditional love. But I also have those boundaries and rules. But um, no, so I was staring at Suzie and you know, okay, she's like, she was around like three months and we're staring at each other and you know, you do all the things they need. And she's not sleepy and she's just like looking at me and I was like, this is my time to shine. I'm Miss Rachel. It's time for a song. And then I was just like, I couldn't think of any. And I have like baby learning one, baby learning two, they're hours long. And I was just like, I got nothing. I went blank. Yeah.

• 33:35Kylie Kelce?

  What? You got stage fright in front of your?

• 33:39Speaker 03

  And then I did like the Miss Rachel live show.

• 33:41Kylie Kelce?

  Perfect.

• 33:41Speaker 03

  But yeah, I went blank.

• 33:44Kylie Kelce?

  What, did you like have a good laugh about that?

• 33:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was like, I talked to myself. I was like, you're Miss Rachel.

• 33:50Kylie Kelce?

  You're trying to give yourself a pep talk. You've got this.

• 33:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, this is your thing.

• 33:54Kylie Kelce?

  You've made a million kids smile. More than that.

• 33:57Speaker 03

  No.

• 33:58Kylie Kelce?

  You can make your own baby smile.

• 33:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, and she sometimes is, she's a tough audience sometimes. If she wakes up from a nap and you're like, open, shut them. She's like, uh-uh. No.

• 34:10Kylie Kelce?

  No, I'd like to shut them again because it's time to go back to sleep.

• 34:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:14Kylie Kelce?

  Our most recent is also a tough audience.

• 34:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:18Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, she's, she makes you work for a smile. Well, I'd love to circle back to a topic. I've been excited to get your take on, which is screen time, which we, we touched on briefly. But I've heard you say the quote, all screen time is not created equal. Can you explain that a little bit more?

• 34:35Speaker 03

  Yes. So I think that some screen time is faster paced and I like, for little ones, the slow pace. I love the interaction. So the pausing for a response, encouraging imaginative play. Um, what else? I think what's great about PBS and, and our show as well as there's a lot of research behind it. So if you think about a show, you want to know like who's behind the show, who's, who's working on it? Um, and, and where are they getting their research? So yeah, it's not all equal. Um, and yeah, I'm obsessed with like PBS.

• 35:11Kylie Kelce?

  So are we. We're a big Sesame Street household.

• 35:14Speaker 03

  I love Sesame Street.

• 35:15Kylie Kelce?

  We love Wild Kratts and Zaboomafu. Um, as someone who loves PBS and works in the world of kids programming.

• 35:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:21Kylie Kelce?

  Um, why do you think it's so important to make sure that everyone has access to these types of shows?

• 35:27Speaker 03

  Well, like I said, they're backed by research and you can trust them. You can put them on and do the dishes and you're not going to come running back hearing something. Um, and yeah, they've been around so long. So you just, they're, they're trustworthy.

• 35:40Kylie Kelce?

  And they're also shows that we very much, I am a very much like, screen time is great for dishes. To, to do something that, yup, to do something that I don't necessarily want.

• 35:51Speaker 03

  Sick day.

• 35:52Kylie Kelce?

  Three ducklings, right? Three ducklings following me around the house to do these things. It's easier to just like quick get it done.

• 35:59Speaker 03

  I think it can be beneficial. Um, I think what's important for the really little ones is that you balance it with, um, what Harvard calls like serve and return interaction. So just like we said with the babbling or like, they're looking at a toy and you're like, wow, that is a red tractor. You know, just like those, those nice interactions. And then they say vroom, vroom. And you're like, where's the tractor going? Like you're just having back and forth interactions. Cause if those are missing, you can't, you can't get that same quality from TV.

• 36:28Kylie Kelce?

  Yup.

• 36:28Speaker 03

  So, but, um, you know, as someone who grew up with a single mom, I know that, like the, the recommendations can be really unrealistic and that there are shows that are beneficial.

• 36:40Kylie Kelce?

  It also, I've found that the PBS shows, like specifically Wild Kratts, like I was a sucker for Animal Planet when I was growing up. And I loved watching Zaboomafu. And I feel like it's fun to sit down and watch it with them as well.

• 36:54Speaker 03

  Yeah. And co-viewing is, is really beneficial.

• 36:56Kylie Kelce?

  Because we talk about it while it's happening. When we watch your show, we sing the songs together. It's, it gives them a moment of like, did you see that? And you get to sort of validate their excitement in what they're watching.

• 37:09Speaker 03

  Yeah. And you can extend it to like an art project or like you can pretend to be hermit crabs outside or find like a shell and it's a box.

• 37:18Kylie Kelce?

  It's so much fun.

• 37:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:19Kylie Kelce?

  Um, speaking of PBS, the headline of your new profile in the Washington Post is Ms. Rachel grew up on Mr. Rogers. And now she's carrying on his legacy. Um, you've been compared to him for a while now. How do you feel about that?

• 37:34Speaker 03

  I can't accept it. I mean, he's a saint to me and um, he's just, yeah, he's, I've admired him and he's been my hero for so long. Um, I read his, like in my twenties, I would just like read books about him. I think like maybe seven years ago, I um, I read his whole biography and decided I was gonna write a musical about him and it's just, it's just funny that I ended up going into kids media because I didn't, even at like thirty, I just, I didn't see that happening. And it's so funny because I applied to be an intern on Sesame Street when I was in my twenties. I was like, I wanna work on Sesame Street. So it's just funny that everyone was like, this is obvious, Rachel, because you like had a Sesame Street backpack as like a twenty-five year old and like,

• 38:19Speaker 03

  why is this new to you? You have like a Mr. Rogers book like on your coffee table.

• 38:24Kylie Kelce?

  I do like the idea that you were more surprised than the people around you.

• 38:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:30Kylie Kelce?

  That you, it was so obvious that you're in the, the right field of work.

• 38:36Speaker 03

  No, totally.

• 38:38Kylie Kelce?

  That's so interesting.

• 38:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:39Kylie Kelce?

  That means you were really meant for it.

• 38:41Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 38:42Kylie Kelce?

  Like, uh, like you, Mr. Rogers also advocated for children as well as human rights, inequality. Um, how has he been an inspiration for you in that capacity?

• 38:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I've watched all his documentaries and I knew that his kid show, I think was the first or one of the first to have a lot of black characters on. I heard recently that TV shows for kids should be a window and a mirror. So a mirror, they could see themselves in a window. They can see like outward and possibilities, what they could do, what they can be. And um, I think that must have been really important to him and, and it's really important to us. And so when we decided to have Rahaf on the show, who's from Gaza, I actually took a screenshot of his pool scene when he had, at that time, pools were, pools had been segregated.

• 39:33Speaker 03

  So people even threw chemicals into, into pools that black people were swimming in to try and get them out. And he, it makes me emotional. He decided to have this kiddie pool and, oh, sorry, didn't mean to cry. He decided to have this kiddie pool and sit with Officer Clemmons and invite him to put his feet in together. And then he like shared his towel. And actually, I saw that some people who wanted things to say segregated, that that, that scene ended up being like a conversation in their home. Like, wow, Mr. Rogers was comfortable sharing his pool.

• 40:13Speaker 03

  And I thought that I wanted people to see Rahaf and her joy and, and see her. There's so much dehumanization that goes on with kids. And you know, it happens with, with kids from different parts of the world, kids who have disabilities. And just to see, see her joy and see her as somebody who loves Hop Little Bunnies. And it was cool when I posted that people, it was sad and beautiful that people said comments like, oh, this made me realize that she's just like my child.

• 40:55Speaker 03

  So hadn't seen her as, as like their child until that moment. But it's, it's, it's great that people can, can change in that way. And yeah, I just.

• 41:09Speaker 03

  I think um I knew that that wasn't easy for him and that he got a lot of hate mail about that um but it was the right thing to do and so I would look at that screenshot when whenever I had a lot of backlash about it and it was funny because I was really had a bad day about some backlash and was so down and Aaron brought in a present and um it was wrapped and everything and I was like sometimes it's funny people will like project or call me like a saint and it was funny Aaron and I were watching the news once and they were like she really is a saint and he like did the slow look to me like because he knows me when I'm like hangry and like I can be

• 41:54Speaker 03

  a real baby he was like oh he he loves me and adores me but it was just funny because he knows if I haven't eaten in the morning and I've had like two cups of coffee and he's like have you had breakfast he tries to say it like a nice way Gently you seem hungry So um he brought me this gift and um I was like I don't want it unless it's a Mr Rogers autograph like that was so mean like he had a gift for me and I and then he's like I think you should open it and um why did I say that that was so mean but um it was Mr Rogers had handwritten part of It's a Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood um the music You manifested it

• 42:38Speaker 03

  It was really sweet And yeah and he had I I kinda knew Aaron was on the lookout Sure Um I probably had like mentioned that that would be something I would really love um you know how that is so um A gentle suggestion Yeah yeah a few suggestions Where you blatantly tell them Yeah a few times yeah um like yeah so I um I opened it and I started bawling because I was just like it was such a nice sign um I feel like there's been a lot of signs that I'm doing the right thing and that's really cool and I know in my heart

• 43:13Kylie Kelce?

  That's amazing.

• 43:13Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 43:14Kylie Kelce?

  The last thing is something that I like to ask all my fellow mom guests. How have your kids humbled you?

• 43:23Speaker 03

  Um, so I've worked with kids for a long time and they're so honest.

• 43:29Kylie Kelce?

  They're so.

• 43:30Speaker 03

  They're so honest.

• 43:31Kylie Kelce?

  Isn't it beautiful?

• 43:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, they don't know yet about like not being so honest. I had a talk with Thomas about this just last night.

• 43:40Speaker 03

  So he was looking at me like I was so beautiful.

• 43:44Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 43:45Speaker 03

  And he was like, mommy, what are those lines on your forehead? And um, I didn't know I had any lines on my forehead because like we talked about prior to taping, I lose everything and I lose it over and over. So I lose my glasses so much that I just don't wear them and I don't have good vision.

• 44:04Kylie Kelce?

  Sure.

• 44:05Speaker 03

  So everything looked really smooth to me.

• 44:06Kylie Kelce?

  It's like a nice blur.

• 44:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, and um, I was surprised. I, I didn't know, I was like, lines? And then I had to do some inner work on that. Cause I like to do this thing where you flip things.

• 44:22Kylie Kelce?

  Sure.

• 44:23Speaker 03

  So I was like, kind of, I was bummed about that. And of course I get the online comments like, time for Botox. Um, yeah, yeah. Um, so I, I changed it in my mind from wrinkles to gratitude lines. Because I was like, I'm grateful, like not everyone gets to

• 44:44Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 44:44Speaker 03

  grow old and um, I'm so grateful for all that I've learned because in my twenties, I was a disaster. I meet twenty year olds that have it all together and I'm like,

• 44:54Kylie Kelce?

  No.

• 44:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm like, why?

• 44:56Kylie Kelce?

  It couldn't be me.

• 44:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was just hot mess. And so I don't want to go back to that time when I didn't, I had a smooth face and I was a disaster.

• 45:05Kylie Kelce?

  No.

• 45:05Speaker 03

  I want to be here.

• 45:07Kylie Kelce?

  These lines come with wisdom.

• 45:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I'm grateful for them.

• 45:10Kylie Kelce?

  I cannot thank you enough for coming on to Not Gonna Lie.

• 45:13Speaker 03

  Thank you so much.

• 45:14Kylie Kelce?

  We are so excited to have gotten the chance to talk to you. I cannot wait to go home and tell my kids I met Miss Rachel.

• 45:20Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh.

• 45:21Kylie Kelce?

  But more importantly, I'm so excited that I got the chance to sit down here with Rachel.

• 45:25Speaker 03

  I'm so honored. And can I just say thank you so much for all you do for the Eagles Autism Foundation? And Mr. Rogers said, anyone who does anything for a child is a hero to me. And thank you for all you do for, for the children. Means so much.

• 45:39Kylie Kelce?

  Happy to. Thank you for everything that you do and. Um, like I said, huge fans of you in our house. Thank you. So appreciate that you are offering programming to kids that is both enriching and helpful. And um, something that I think all parents can be proud to put on in their house. That's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie. You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Ms. Rachel on my YouTube channel on More Shit Monday. Her new picture book, Ms. Rachel and Bean and the Bedtime Routine is out this October. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode. Follow Not Gonna Lie on all social media at NGLwithKylie. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Not Gonna Lie is a Wave original brought to you by Lululemon.

• 46:24Kylie Kelce?

  Thank you, real ones, for tuning in.

• 46:36Speaker 00

  Let's be honest, you don't go to the family holiday gift exchange just to participate. You go to win. This year, get a gift that'll cause a stir. A KitchenAid Stand Mixer. It's not just an appliance, it's a present to help them with the making. Year after year, recipe after recipe, you're enabling the family to whip up new traditions. Tis your season to mix it up. Gift a KitchenAid Stand Mixer this year and make more than meals.