Iran Got Frame Mogged & Clintons Giggle At Epstein Files | #694

YERRR – the boys go from a massage dilemma to full-on global chaos in record time. – Clinton depositions, AI rabbis, and the internet being cooked – Iran, Israel, and a dangerous escalation trap – Epstein distractions, Mamdani praise, and insider trading politicians All that and more on this week’s episode of FLAGRANT. INDULGE. 0:00 Massage dilemma + Flaps out 7:30 No birds and the bees & Communal drain 11:16 One person caught + Lesbian exchange 16:39 Clinton reminiscing, Deposition + Seth Rich 25:35 Russia took someone out + Reputational 28:25 War, propaganda + AI Rabbis 33:58 Internet = cooked, Quiet luxury + Framemogging 48:04 Khamanei + What's happening in Iran? 53:57 What does Israel do for US? Bride of Charlie 58:01 Weeks away, 0 support + What's it for? 1:11:13 Game of Chinese Chicken + Gulf states upset 1:19:00 Making jobs, Who takes over? Jets shot down 1:27:49 Who runs out of ammo 1st? Escalation trap 1:30:46 Distraction from Epstein + Mamdani is NICE 1:37:37 Eric Adams gets a bad rap 1:39:22 Stop your insider trading lads + Penalty 1:46:30 Beast Games, Human nature + Can't be bought 1:54:19 Patron Danny lifesaving operation This episode is sponsored by Kalshi. This episode is sponsored by Sesh. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Speaker 00

  If you're massage, whatever, would you rather rub somebody's feet or just check them off?

• 0:06Mark Gagnon?

  Hmm. I don't know if they look at the feet as like any different than the rest of the body.

• 0:12Speaker 00

  But you don't think it's kind of like, oh, it's fucking old crusty feet. Like, my feet are gross.

• 0:16Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, I see.

• 0:17Speaker 02

  Most gross are your feet.

• 0:20Speaker 00

  Currently?

• 0:22Mark Gagnon?

  They got it. They got it.

• 0:25Speaker 02

  They have like a daily ranking that teams.

• 0:28Speaker 00

  I got a fucking massage down. No, I'm joking.

• 0:34Speaker 00

  On my fucking shaft.

• 0:36Mark Gagnon?

  They got to massage those little Jew fro down there and shit like that. Yeah, like that. I think the feet might be better.

• 0:42Speaker 00

  I got, I use a trimmer. I use one of those trimmers. And then I didn't have like a shaver.

• 0:49Mark Gagnon?

  What do you mean?

• 0:50Speaker 00

  So I use the trimmer for my bush. But I didn't have a razor to like go in close for the balls.

• 0:57Mark Gagnon?

  You go, you take a razor down there?

• 1:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, take a razor to the balls.

• 1:03Speaker 00

  I go bush, I go trimmer.

• 1:05Mark Gagnon?

  Wait, what? What's a razor?

• 1:06Speaker 00

  Like a, like a shade, like a face razor.

• 1:08Mark Gagnon?

  That's crazy. You can nick your shit.

• 1:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, you can. That's the risk. That's the game that we play.

• 1:13Mark Gagnon?

  That's wild.

• 1:14Speaker 00

  Anyway, so I had a almost.

• 1:17Mark Gagnon?

  Your sperm has been through enough.

• 1:18Speaker 00

  I know. It's bad. But I had an almost like flat bush. So like almost nothing at the bush, but balls fully hair on them.

• 1:29Speaker 02

  That's like that haircut you had.

• 1:40Speaker 02

  If you know what's funny, I missed it.

• 1:42Speaker 00

  Oh, God.

• 1:44Speaker 02

  That is a good point, bro. You had the, you had the dagger stand, dude.

• 1:47Speaker 00

  Dude, I did.

• 1:47Speaker 02

  You had no hair up top, beard on the bottom. Your dick had a beard. That's kind of fire.

• 1:52Speaker 00

  Dude, look like a billy goat.

• 1:53Speaker 02

  But, but nothing here. That's sick.

• 1:54Speaker 00

  Not nothing here. It was like a little bit.

• 1:56Mark Gagnon?

  Two, three years.

• 1:57Speaker 00

  Two, three years. It was two, three years. Had like a little bush and then it was just like random like hairs on my balls. And I was like, how did I get a haircut and look less desirable?

• 2:08Speaker 02

  You had that, bro.

• 2:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, that was me. Pretty much. That's what I look like. Yeah.

• 2:13Mark Gagnon?

  Get the wax, man. Try it out.

• 2:14Speaker 00

  I should, right?

• 2:15Mark Gagnon?

  Try it out one time.

• 2:16Speaker 02

  But do you wax your balls?

• 2:17Mark Gagnon?

  They everywhere. There's no hair.

• 2:19Speaker 02

  No, that's insane.

• 2:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, but do you grow hair on your balls?

• 2:22Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 2:22Speaker 00

  Really?

• 2:22Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, everybody does.

• 2:24Speaker 02

  Are you in syrups?

• 2:25Mark Gagnon?

  What's that?

• 2:26Speaker 00

  Like this?

• 2:27Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

• 2:28Speaker 00

  Like the OBGYN?

• 2:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, how are you standing?

• 2:30Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, you're laying.

• 2:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:32Speaker 02

  They get your ass cracked?

• 2:33Mark Gagnon?

  Just like that.

• 2:34Speaker 02

  They get your ass cracked?

• 2:35Mark Gagnon?

  Does that have to turn over for, no, you gotta toot it up a little.

• 2:38Speaker 00

  That's what I'm saying.

• 2:39Speaker 02

  You struck yourself.

• 2:40Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, you gotta toot it up.

• 2:41Speaker 02

  Bro.

• 2:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, you gotta toot it up.

• 2:43Speaker 00

  For what? Like, what is this, for what?

• 2:45Mark Gagnon?

  It's so, trust me, it's one of those things.

• 2:48Speaker 00

  He doesn't have kids.

• 2:48Mark Gagnon?

  It's so smooth.

• 2:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. Once you have kids, you realize that like, guys like this, bro.

• 2:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's just fucking. Clean ass and a pain.

• 2:58Speaker 02

  Wax balls and. You gotta stop with all that.

• 3:01Speaker 00

  Dude, I remember my mom just like stopped shaving everything at one point.

• 3:05Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 3:06Speaker 00

  And I was just, she just stopped shaving everything.

• 3:09Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 3:09Speaker 00

  No, cause like my, my family.

• 3:11Speaker 02

  How would you know?

• 3:12Speaker 00

  No, my family is quite comfortable being naked.

• 3:14Speaker 02

  They have like a.

• 3:14Speaker 00

  My, my mom would come out of the shower, this is wild, she'd come out of the shower, butt naked.

• 3:20Speaker 02

  No, no, don't put me in this.

• 3:21Speaker 00

  You're good now.

• 3:22Speaker 02

  No, no, that's what I'm saying, you guys have been putting on me and meanwhile, he's been deflecting.

• 3:25Speaker 00

  My family is crazy.

• 3:26Mark Gagnon?

  They just walk around tits out in your house.

• 3:28Speaker 00

  No, no, no one does that.

• 3:29Speaker 02

  We do it the way it's supposed to be, house on the prairie, feeding children, alright? His mom's walking around with flap of zombies.

• 3:35Speaker 00

  There's a bunch of African.

• 3:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:39Speaker 00

  Just floppy titties.

• 3:41Speaker 02

  Jumping in places.

• 3:43Speaker 00

  No, my.

• 3:46Speaker 02

  This is my family.

• 3:47Speaker 00

  No, my, my mom would, would just walk around and like, and she'd act like she didn't know we were there, like, she'd get out and then she'd be like, whoa, whoa, God, whoa, she didn't know you're here. And she just.

• 3:57Speaker 02

  It's like, we live here, mom.

• 3:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, like, what the fuck, you, I'm 30, like, obviously, I still live with you. Obviously, I still live in your home as 30-year-old adult on TV.

• 4:07Speaker 00

  As a 30-year-old adult on TV, I still live with my parents, obviously, cause I gotta take care of them or whatever.

• 4:12Speaker 02

  Bro, he's still on his parents' phone plan.

• 4:14Speaker 00

  I am too, I am too, I can't even. I am too, dude. I pay for it, you know what I mean? It just goes to my mom.

• 4:21Speaker 02

  I mean.

• 4:22Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, you better than me, I give her my portion.

• 4:27Speaker 02

  It's truly crazy. You remember when he got a new phone and he's on the phone with his mom? Like, "Mom, just tell them that I'm a user. Tell them I'm certified." She's like, "I don't..."

• 4:36Speaker 00

  "I can't do it. I don't know how. How can I tell you you're a user? It's my account." And like, we were beefing at one time and she was like, "I'm not gonna do it." I was like, "Do you just not want me to use my phone?" "You should figure it out yourself."

• 4:53Speaker 02

  It's kinda beautiful. That's like the way that they kinda talk. You know what I mean? This phone keeps them together.

• 4:57Speaker 00

  Bro, I had to tell my mom to start shaving. I was like, "Mom, come on. You gotta shave your armpits or something." It's like, think about dad. My mom was like, "He ain't gonna remember."

• 5:10Speaker 00

  Fucking sad.

• 5:11Speaker 02

  Bro, I had a friend who's a comic and...

• 5:17Speaker 02

  Did you get sad at that one?

• 5:18Speaker 00

  Your mom's walking around, vag out is nuts. It's not vag out. Like, it's obviously like, you know, it's covered by the... What?

• 5:27Speaker 02

  It's covered by the hair?

• 5:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, the hair, belly.

• 5:40Speaker 02

  I was unplugged the jukebox.

• 5:44Speaker 02

  There's just a lot of visual in my head. I'm not paying attention and just...

• 5:48Speaker 00

  She earned it, man. She's almost 80 years old. Let her walk around.

• 5:54Speaker 00

  My mom farted naked once and I was like, "All right, that's enough. That's enough for me." "What are we doing? What happened to this family?"

• 6:02Speaker 02

  Unfiltered cigarette, bro. That's where he gets it. She wanted you to move out so bad.

• 6:07Speaker 00

  I know. She was trying.

• 6:08Speaker 02

  It's crazy.

• 6:09Speaker 00

  She was trying. What naked, stop shaving, just farting.

• 6:12Speaker 02

  She pulled a sigh off, dude. Trying to give him a pink eye to get him out of the hell.

• 6:15Speaker 00

  It worked. It worked. She got me out. She got me out.

• 6:18Speaker 02

  I mean, dude, that makes me uncomfortable. Like, you can't be seeing bush.

• 6:24Speaker 00

  I seen it, bro. There's no way. Yeah, I haven't seen your parents naked?

• 6:29Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 6:29Speaker 00

  You've seen your mom's breasts?

• 6:31Speaker 02

  When I was an infant.

• 6:32Speaker 00

  You saw your sister's breasts?

• 6:34Speaker 02

  No, you're not looking. You're not like, "Oh, sick."

• 6:36Speaker 00

  Stop lying. First of all, none of us said you were like, "Oh, sick." Nobody ever presented that. We just said you saw them.

• 6:42Speaker 02

  That's the inference.

• 6:43Speaker 00

  But you also noticed them to start to fill out. That's another thing. That sucks for you. That sucks for you, Mark. Weirdo.

• 6:55Speaker 02

  Nope. Why are you bringing this up, dude?

• 6:57Speaker 00

  That's a weird.

• 7:00Speaker 00

  No, he's weird about that.

• 7:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, start the timer, please.

• 7:05Speaker 00

  That is weird, though. Is that weird? Can we just talk about that?

• 7:09Speaker 02

  Is what weird?

• 7:10Speaker 00

  That you were recommending, like, bra size increases.

• 7:18Speaker 02

  Can you understand the language? He was in bra size upgrade.

• 7:23Speaker 00

  What is that even called?

• 7:26Speaker 00

  Isn't that weird? You're the youngest in the family. No, no, you have a sister that's younger than one. But you guys are the youngest. So like, you know, you're learning about puberty before you experience it.

• 7:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, that part is kind of funny.

• 7:38Speaker 00

  And like, are your parents dividing and conquering with the birds and the bees?

• 7:42Speaker 02

  Oh, no, we never got taught anything.

• 7:44Speaker 00

  Really?

• 7:45Speaker 02

  No.

• 7:46Speaker 00

  Not, no conversation about like, safe sex or anything like that?

• 7:49Speaker 02

  God, no, no.

• 7:49Speaker 00

  Really?

• 7:50Speaker 02

  No.

• 7:51Speaker 00

  Did you ever try to broach it with any of your older siblings or even your mom?

• 7:54Speaker 02

  No. We have all pushed it down, dude. That's how Catholics do it. You just suppress it, you keep it low key, no one brings it up.

• 8:03Speaker 00

  And it works.

• 8:04Speaker 02

  No, no, I mean, I think almost all my sisters had kids before they were married.

• 8:10Speaker 02

  I think without fail.

• 8:12Speaker 00

  Respect.

• 8:14Speaker 02

  You understand, we are Canadian ethnically, we're culturally Mexican. Like, we are, like, we are Catholic, we kind of allow.

• 8:26Speaker 02

  Hundred percent.

• 8:27Speaker 00

  Really?

• 8:28Mark Gagnon?

  They was real Catholic schoolgirls over there.

• 8:31Speaker 02

  Hundred percent. And they got married, they have great families, they have beautiful husbands. But it all happened.

• 8:37Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 8:38Speaker 02

  With, with passion. The relationships are predicated on passion. We're passionate.

• 8:42Speaker 00

  We are passionate, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 8:43Mark Gagnon?

  But all those kids in your house, like, you had to, like, walk into the room and your brothers are jerking it or something like that? Like, never?

• 8:50Speaker 02

  What kind of heated rivalry? You guys are too porn brain, okay? This is the problem with men inside.

• 8:54Mark Gagnon?

  You never caught none of your brothers jerking it.

• 8:56Speaker 02

  No, no, answer the question.

• 8:58Speaker 00

  Let, let him go.

• 8:58Speaker 02

  Okay, okay.

• 9:02Speaker 00

  Because this is Mark, like, I don't jerk off in front of my brothers, only with my mom in the car.

• 9:07Speaker 02

  Okay, that's different, all right?

• 9:08Speaker 00

  I know.

• 9:09Speaker 02

  Allegedly, if that even happens.

• 9:11Speaker 00

  You jerk off in the backseat with your mom driving.

• 9:17Speaker 02

  There's so many seats away, bro. If you jerk off in a room with another room nearby, it's like, yeah, dude.

• 9:24Speaker 00

  Well, did you guys ever jerk off in college, like in the door, in the, uh, in like the showers, the communal showers?

• 9:30Speaker 02

  Oh, I mean, no, but we did have the communal showers and there would be a drain that was a communal drain.

• 9:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:37Speaker 02

  You guys, you know what I'm talking about.

• 9:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:39Speaker 02

  But some of them don't have it. Some of them are now like individual stalls.

• 9:41Speaker 00

  I caught a lick with everybody in there.

• 9:44Speaker 02

  No.

• 9:44Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, it was so obvious too, because I was part of the convo and then I just fucking dropped out for like three minutes. And they're like, Schultz? Hey Schultz!

• 9:53Speaker 02

  Schultz is off combs. He's off combs.

• 9:56Mark Gagnon?

  Is it like separate stalls though?

• 9:58Speaker 00

  Say again?

• 9:58Mark Gagnon?

  Is it like separate stalls?

• 10:00Speaker 00

  No, I just went to like a corner and then.

• 10:02Speaker 02

  No, okay.

• 10:03Speaker 00

  Really? Yeah.

• 10:05Speaker 02

  Separate stalls, but there's a shared like drain that everything goes down.

• 10:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:09Speaker 02

  And so you could see everyone's soap just moving on by.

• 10:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:13Speaker 02

  Yeah. So depending on if Schultz is upriver.

• 10:19Speaker 02

  There might be a sitzar.

• 10:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's crazy.

• 10:22Mark Gagnon?

  So you aim for the drain there, but you couldn't even aim for the drain at his house.

• 10:25Speaker 02

  No, okay, look.

• 10:26Mark Gagnon?

  That's nuts.

• 10:28Speaker 02

  There's a lot of allegations happening now.

• 10:29Mark Gagnon?

  That is crazy.

• 10:30Speaker 00

  Guys, there's war happening.

• 10:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 10:32Speaker 00

  You can't be having fun.

• 10:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:34Mark Gagnon?

  I know he caught one of his brothers jerk in it. You had to. There's too many kids in that house.

• 10:38Speaker 02

  You understand my brother's much older.

• 10:39Mark Gagnon?

  I didn't all have your own room.

• 10:40Speaker 02

  Brothers are much older.

• 10:41Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 10:41Speaker 02

  And.

• 10:42Mark Gagnon?

  So you caught your sisters.

• 10:45Mark Gagnon?

  With all due respect.

• 10:47Speaker 00

  Just fucking being.

• 10:50Speaker 00

  No, dude.

• 10:52Speaker 02

  We don't do that, bro. We're Catholic.

• 10:54Mark Gagnon?

  Dude, I.

• 10:55Speaker 00

  Well, they do a lot of shit, but they were doing it.

• 10:59Speaker 00

  With all due respect.

• 11:00Speaker 02

  With all due respect. I'll tell you, there's one.

• 11:01Speaker 00

  This is insane.

• 11:02Speaker 02

  There's one person we caught. There's, okay, don't do guitar here. That's crazy. I don't even like, that makes me uncomfortable.

• 11:08Speaker 00

  Smacking beam like an ice ancient.

• 11:11Speaker 00

  Hold on.

• 11:15Speaker 02

  No, there's one person I can't drink it off in my house ever. And it was an exchange student that we had.

• 11:20Speaker 00

  Oh, the French guy?

• 11:21Speaker 02

  Yeah. And we taught him how to use Bluetooth to play music around the house.

• 11:26Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 11:26Speaker 02

  And then immediately he was like, okay, I'm going to go to sleep now. And then he went into the room and then immediately we just heard like blasting in the

• 11:35Speaker 00

  No.

• 11:36Speaker 02

  I swear to God.

• 11:37Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

• 11:39Speaker 02

  And it was in French, he was like, oh, si, mon p'tit madame. Like, it's like all his insane.

• 11:43Speaker 00

  No.

• 11:43Speaker 02

  And I had to go in the room and be like, yo, yo, yo, yo, uh, we can hear your video game. And he was like, oh, I'm so sorry, I don't know. And it just turned up. And he just, and that was it. We never talked about it. That's how my family does it. We don't talk about it.

• 11:56Speaker 00

  You never addressed it once?

• 11:58Speaker 02

  No, that's how stuff happens and then we move on. You push it down. And you drink. And that's how you're supposed to do it. You just, you push it.

• 12:06Speaker 00

  Shout out Catholics. Maybe there's something to that.

• 12:08Speaker 02

  No.

• 12:10Speaker 00

  You don't think?

• 12:10Speaker 02

  No.

• 12:11Speaker 00

  Keep it moving, bro.

• 12:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, keep it moving, like.

• 12:13Mark Gagnon?

  Talk about shit.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  No, no, no, you push it down. And if it comes up, you blame other people. You blame your wife, you blame your kids. You just, you don't, yes.

• 12:20Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 12:21Speaker 02

  You can't bring it up, dude. It's the way it's supposed to be.

• 12:24Speaker 00

  Did he ever apologize to you? Was he like, oh, this is so embarrassing?

• 12:27Speaker 02

  No, he's French. I think he meant to do it. Like, they're freaky people, the French. They don't think he gave a shit. He never bothered that.

• 12:33Mark Gagnon?

  All his sisters around, he must have been going crazy.

• 12:37Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 12:37Speaker 02

  Oh, dude, we had another exchange student thing. This is actually wild. I don't even know if I can really say it.

• 12:42Speaker 00

  Yes, you can say it.

• 12:43Speaker 02

  I gotta say, I gotta say.

• 12:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can.

• 12:45Speaker 02

  I might have to

• 12:46Speaker 00

  Don't mark it.

• 12:46Speaker 02

  Send a bird back home and see what the deal is.

• 12:48Speaker 00

  Send the, send the bird.

• 12:49Speaker 02

  We had exchange students, two girls from England that were exchange students living in our home.

• 12:57Mark Gagnon?

  Okay, this is the start of a great story, yeah.

• 13:00Speaker 02

  And one day.

• 13:02Speaker 00

  How many kids were in your house?

• 13:03Mark Gagnon?

  Didn't they have enough and then they're taking in exchange motherfuckers like?

• 13:07Speaker 02

  I know.

• 13:08Speaker 00

  It's like Wayne Manor.

• 13:11Speaker 02

  What is that?

• 13:12Speaker 00

  It's Batman, where he lives. It's just like an orphanage. Okay, go on.

• 13:16Speaker 02

  And I'm like, maybe like 10 or something, I don't know. And we get a knock on the door. And, and my mom opens the door and immediately one of my neighbors busts in. Our neighbor's a girl who's probably at this point like 18, 19. The exchange students are probably like 18, 19. And the girl comes in, she goes, "Where the fuck is that bitch?" And my mom's like, "What?" She goes, "Where's the, where's that exchange student bitch? Where is she?" And she bursts in the house, starts going through the rooms, trying to find her. And my mom's like, "What happened?" She goes, "She slept with my girlfriend." And we were like, "What?"

• 13:50Speaker 00

  She slept with my girlfriend?

• 13:52Speaker 02

  So, our neigh- we just found out all in one moment, that our neighbor was a lesbian. That the exchange student that was living inside the house was also a lesbian. And she was hooking up with the neighbor's girlfriend while on exchange. And now the lesbian was trying to have a fight in our house.

• 14:07Speaker 00

  Hold on.

• 14:08Speaker 02

  Yo, that's fire.

• 14:09Speaker 00

  Hold on, wait, then-

• 14:10Speaker 02

  That's fire.

• 14:11Speaker 00

  The neighbor was a girl also?

• 14:13Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 14:14Speaker 00

  And did your mom ever talk about this afterwards?

• 14:16Speaker 02

  No, no, we pushed it down. But they, they ended up adjudicating, they had a big yelling fight outside. It almost turned into a thing. My mom was just like, "Get out of the house." Like, "If you guys want to fight." Like, she didn't understand anything that was happening. My mom's also not super down with the gay shit. And so she's like, infidelity and gay? Like, what? So she just kicked them out of the house and then they just like, figured it out, like in the street. And just like, a British girl, "I didn't know, like, she said, like, it wasn't, it wasn't, like, you guys weren't really dating, I wasn't aware." And then they just, they cooled it and then that was it. And then we moved on. And never brought it up.

• 14:51Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 14:51Speaker 02

  Until this very moment. I gotta double check that I can tell the story, but yeah, that's, that's a real thing.

• 14:56Speaker 00

  That's awesome. And why would you guys have these grownups coming to stay with you?

• 15:00Speaker 02

  These girls were a part of a semi-professional soccer exchange program.

• 15:05Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 15:05Speaker 02

  And they came because my sister was playing on a semi-professional soccer team. And they came over to play, they needed a house while they were playing in the league.

• 15:13Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 15:15Speaker 02

  It's called billeting in hockey.

• 15:16Speaker 00

  What is it?

• 15:17Speaker 02

  Billet in hockey. I don't know if you guys are familiar with it.

• 15:19Speaker 00

  Type shit.

• 15:21Speaker 02

  But yeah, they didn't, they didn't say their like sexual status prior to, so we just kinda rolled the dice. I mean, female athlete, we probably should have guessed, but.

• 15:29Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 15:30Speaker 02

  All time, dude.

• 15:31Speaker 00

  That's what was popping in the house, that's what we were up to.

• 15:33Mark Gagnon?

  Wait, your sister's lesbian too?

• 15:34Speaker 00

  No.

• 15:35Mark Gagnon?

  Oh.

• 15:35Speaker 00

  No.

• 15:37Speaker 02

  She was just.

• 15:38Speaker 00

  One of the good ones.

• 15:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, dude.

• 15:44Mark Gagnon?

  That's crazy. There's too many kids in that house, man.

• 15:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was awesome.

• 15:48Speaker 00

  That's the way it should be.

• 15:49Mark Gagnon?

  That's just, tons of kids in the house?

• 15:51Speaker 02

  Yes, exactly. On like a commune, a bunch of kids, families, all raising each other.

• 15:55Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, you need the other families. Epstein said the same thing.

• 15:58Speaker 00

  Jesus.

• 15:59Speaker 02

  Alright, it's kind of a different approach.

• 16:00Speaker 00

  Jesus Christ.

• 16:03Mark Gagnon?

  A bunch of kids in that.

• 16:04Speaker 00

  What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant, your boy Schultz.

• 16:07Speaker 02

  We didn't do that.

• 16:08Speaker 00

  I'm here with Alex Media, Marky Gags, okay? Akash, still traveling the world, selling out shows everywhere. Shout out to him, he just added a sixth show in Toronto, fourth show in Houston. Radio City coming up, so make sure you go out, check out, uh, check him out as he comes to your city. Um, and then Bill Clinton's back on the mic.

• 16:33Speaker 00

  Yo, shout out Bill, bro.

• 16:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, dude. Yeah, but you saw this clip?

• 16:37Speaker 00

  Yo, this shit killed.

• 16:38Mark Gagnon?

  He's, he's still got it, bro. Like, he's charismatic.

• 16:41Speaker 00

  Play this clip.

• 16:45Speaker 02

  So Bill Clinton is looking at Epstein files, like photos of him and Epstein. Sort of smiling.

• 16:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I know, he's like. Let me see my old work.

• 16:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:58Speaker 00

  Yo, he's trying to touch her. He licked his fingers.

• 17:02Mark Gagnon?

  He was Mark's sister just now.

• 17:11Speaker 00

  You gotta do that first, bro. Look at him. Bill proud of himself with his Apple Watch. Look at him, look at his heart rate. Look at the red on the Apple Watch.

• 17:20Mark Gagnon?

  That shit is like, yeah, four heart attacks already.

• 17:24Speaker 00

  Fifth one coming. Oh, man.

• 17:26Mark Gagnon?

  He's like, oh, I remember that night. That shit just came back to him. He's like, oh.

• 17:30Speaker 00

  The tweet was, he's reminiscing. What'd he say?

• 17:33Speaker 02

  Bro.

• 17:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  I can't say the whole tweet, unless I have Tourette's.

• 17:40Speaker 00

  I mean, it's just unreal.

• 17:42Speaker 02

  So this was a part of a deposition regarding the Epstein files where they both just got like cross-examined for like five hours.

• 17:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:50Speaker 02

  And it seems like it kind of worked.

• 17:52Speaker 00

  Worked for whom?

• 17:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, people are saying that Hillary is super likable.

• 17:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're like Epstein like complimented her. Epstein was like, yeah, she's much more attractive in person. And then nobody asked Hillary anything. She's just like, I'm not gonna deny that or something like that.

• 18:07Speaker 02

  One objection to that one.

• 18:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, people are saying that she's, they're like, why wasn't she this likable in 2016?

• 18:14Speaker 00

  I think she got a bad, like a bad rap. She's cool, man.

• 18:19Speaker 02

  Okay, this is just politics.

• 18:21Speaker 00

  She's cool, man.

• 18:22Speaker 02

  George Bush is hanging out with Ellen, like you just give it enough time and everyone's gonna be like, oh, yeah, it was fine. It was all fine, come on.

• 18:30Speaker 00

  I remember any of the shit she did.

• 18:31Speaker 02

  This is, that's all politics, I'm telling you. Like, look at Bush, everyone, the people look at Bush now, they're like, oh, yeah, he's like an old guy.

• 18:38Speaker 00

  It was all Dick Cheney.

• 18:39Speaker 02

  Killed a million of Rockies.

• 18:41Speaker 00

  I was Dick Cheney. But that is interesting that everybody just goes, he was too stupid to do it. It must have been Dick Cheney.

• 18:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:47Speaker 00

  And he kind of just lets people.

• 18:49Speaker 02

  Genius, bro.

• 18:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:50Speaker 02

  Genius.

• 18:51Speaker 00

  Wouldn't you, right?

• 18:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, you don't want to take that smile.

• 18:53Speaker 00

  He took advantage of me.

• 18:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:55Speaker 00

  All right, guys, here's all the dates in 30 seconds. Nashville, the 20th and 21st, sold out. Thank you guys so much, Nashville, excited to see you. Providence, March 28th. Los Angeles with Jelly Roll at the Netflix Fest on May 8th. And then Halifax, Nova Scotia, August 8th. Alex.

• 19:13Mark Gagnon?

  And March 16th.

• 19:15Speaker 00

  You're completely blurry.

• 19:16Speaker 02

  All right, that's all of our ads. All right, let's get back to the show.

• 19:18Mark Gagnon?

  No, it autofocuses.

• 19:20Speaker 00

  Is it autofocus?

• 19:21Mark Gagnon?

  Yes, come on, motherfucker.

• 19:22Speaker 00

  My bad, my bad.

• 19:23Speaker 02

  Motherfucker.

• 19:24Mark Gagnon?

  March 16th, Cancel Comedy, just go to cancelcomedyx.com. We are at, I forgot the name of the venue, but just get your tickets anyway.

• 19:56Speaker 03

  Coca-Cola for everyone. Take out some Coca-Cola at a store near you.

• 20:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think that like weirdly the deposition just confirmed what everybody already felt. And maybe that's not weird. That's the internet now.

• 20:09Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 20:09Speaker 00

  But it's like, if you think that they're guilty, you're like, obviously, look at this right here. And then if you think that this is, I don't know, blown out of proportion for the Clintons, you're like, oh, look at them. They obviously had nothing to do with this. They didn't even know what's going on. Though I will say, there's some times with Clinton where he's like, yeah, I was just in the pool. And then I went for like a swim. He's like, talking about what happened in this pool with like, amazing detail that you really don't remember times of your life. Like, have you ever like, talked to somebody who, or seen a deposition with somebody who didn't commit a crime, and people ask him what they did that day?

• 20:40Mark Gagnon?

  And there's too many details.

• 20:41Speaker 00

  Too many details, you did it. If you're like, bro, I don't know what I did Thursday of September four years ago. I have no fucking clue.

• 20:49Mark Gagnon?

  Right.

• 20:50Speaker 00

  That to me goes, oh, yeah, you're probably innocent.

• 20:52Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 20:52Speaker 00

  Because you don't remember everything you did.

• 20:54Speaker 02

  And you're sounding a little bit guilty by being like, I don't really remember.

• 20:56Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 20:57Speaker 02

  But it's by being way too specific. It's like, oh.

• 21:00Mark Gagnon?

  He was like, oh, we were just at this hotel and they insisted we go in the pool.

• 21:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:06Speaker 00

  Have you ever been forced in a pool?

• 21:08Mark Gagnon?

  I know.

• 21:08Speaker 00

  Never once has anybody been like, you must go in the pool. You know, also, yeah, you're the, yeah, you're the, you get to do whatever you want.

• 21:14Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 21:14Speaker 00

  You're the president. Or at this time, maybe he was.

• 21:17Mark Gagnon?

  Former president, but still.

• 21:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, no one tells you what to do. No one tells you to put on fucking shorts.

• 21:22Speaker 02

  I mean, in fairness, I didn't watch the whole deposition. I didn't watch all five hours of each of them. So I don't know all the things that happened. But what were the standout moments, Joe? Are there some of these, some clips?

• 21:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, I have Phil Clinton asking if he's been ever lied under oath.

• 21:37Speaker 00

  Oh, this is funny.

• 21:39Speaker 05

  Um, first question I have for you, Mr. President. Uh, have you ever lied in a deposition? No. Have you ever lied while on your oath? No.

• 21:52Speaker 00

  Wait, hold on a second.

• 21:53Mark Gagnon?

  Technically, he's not lying.

• 21:54Speaker 00

  Well, break that down.

• 21:56Mark Gagnon?

  He wasn't on the oath when he said, "I never had relations with her," or was he? I thought that was just like an address to the country. No, like, wasn't he just filming himself in the Oval Office, just like talking straight to camera? I don't think he was like...

• 22:10Speaker 00

  What about when he was impeached? He was impeached...

• 22:13Mark Gagnon?

  That's when he switched it.

• 22:15Speaker 00

  He was impeached for lying?

• 22:16Mark Gagnon?

  "I didn't have sexual relations with her," because then he's like, "Oh, well, it's not penetration," so it's not...

• 22:21Speaker 02

  Yes, Bill Clinton was found to have lied on the road during a sexual relationship with Monica Lewinsky during 98, civil deposition, subsequent grand jury testimony. All right, Al.

• 22:31Speaker 00

  Stop running cover for the Clintons, bro.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, bro.

• 22:33Speaker 00

  How much they paying you, man?

• 22:34Speaker 02

  You're bought, bro.

• 22:34Speaker 00

  How much they paying you, man?

• 22:36Mark Gagnon?

  The Clintons is cool, bro.

• 22:37Speaker 00

  I know.

• 22:38Speaker 02

  He's bought by the Clintons.

• 22:40Speaker 00

  Yo, the Clintons is cool. Why we acting like they not cool, man?

• 22:42Speaker 02

  He's trying to stay off the hit list, that's why.

• 22:43Speaker 00

  Big Hill, hell!

• 22:45Speaker 02

  He's trying not to get got by Hillary, dog.

• 22:47Speaker 00

  Hillary is good.

• 22:48Speaker 02

  He's trying to stay away from it. He is.

• 22:51Speaker 00

  Did they really kill mad people? Well, let's get our conspiracy hats on. You know, what's the conspiracy, Mark? What's up with the Clinton body list?

• 23:00Speaker 02

  I mean, you never see...

• 23:00Speaker 00

  Or the Clinton body count?

• 23:01Speaker 02

  You never see Norm MacDonald talking about...

• 23:04Speaker 00

  What'd he say?

• 23:05Speaker 02

  He's like, "Yeah, you know, Hillary, you know, killed all those people." And I think he's on The View, and they're like, "You can't say that." And he's like, "Oh, it's a matter of record. She's a murderer." And they're like, "You can't... no." And he just doubles down. It's maybe the greatest clip of all time. But, uh, I mean, just based off that alone, I'm like, "Yeah, I trust... I trust Norm."

• 23:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, Norm would probably...

• 23:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think she probably... She probably killed a couple people. If you count Benghazi, there's, you know, a couple there.

• 23:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but that's like being responsible for something, but I'm talking about, like, they say...

• 23:33Speaker 02

  That's like being responsible.

• 23:35Mark Gagnon?

  That's different.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  Quote it, clip it.

• 23:37Mark Gagnon?

  In her job, you know? Maybe they made the wrong decision or whatever the case is, but I'm talking about getting a hit, like, "Hey, let's take this motherfucker out."

• 23:45Speaker 02

  You're talking about Seth Rich?

• 23:46Speaker 00

  You're talking about white Americans. You don't count it when it's them browns, Al.

• 23:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:51Mark Gagnon?

  What you talking about? Clintons, but...

• 23:55Speaker 02

  Okay. It's interesting that version. I don't think you said what you thought you said, but I like what I think is right.

• 24:01Speaker 00

  Even Hillary? Bill maybe, but Bill might be passing, but I don't know about Hillary.

• 24:05Mark Gagnon?

  Son, what's the more black than liking a white woman?

• 24:09Speaker 00

  Don't do this.

• 24:10Mark Gagnon?

  A white woman, that is the blackest shit about me.

• 24:13Speaker 00

  To make her fat too.

• 24:16Mark Gagnon?

  She got heavy, she be hot in those butt. We know back in the day. Right? Don't kill me, Clint.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  No, can you search Seth Rich?

• 24:24Mark Gagnon?

  Y'all don't kill people, but don't kill me.

• 24:26Speaker 02

  You don't want to start that.

• 24:27Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 24:28Speaker 02

  Seth Rich is apparently someone that Hillary killed. That was a... That's one of the big old conspiracies. I don't believe this one. They've never been indicted for this crime, so this is all purely a legend.

• 24:37Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 24:38Speaker 02

  And it just exists in conspiracy lore. Should be debunked.

• 24:40Mark Gagnon?

  Put me on to this one, I don't know this one.

• 24:41Speaker 02

  I don't know all the exact details, to be honest with you. But basically, like, he was like, working with them, he was supposed to like, testify for something, and then mysteriously was like, stabbed in the back by a rent-a-vigilante that was never caught, or something like this. I'm probably butchering the details, so give me a pass, but...

• 24:54Mark Gagnon?

  That's fine.

• 24:55Speaker 02

  Something like that.

• 24:55Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Where'd it happen?

• 24:57Speaker 00

  It could be, you know...

• 24:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, it's...

• 24:59Mark Gagnon?

  Ah, DC, bad crime there.

• 25:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. He was shot in the back as he made his way home one night in Washington, 27-year-old Democrat, DNC staffer. His family says they believe it was a botched robbery.

• 25:10Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 25:12Speaker 02

  It didn't stop conservative pundits like Al from spreading unfounded conspiracy theories that he was murdered because he's provided WikiLeaks with emails from the DNC.

• 25:20Mark Gagnon?

  Ooh.

• 25:21Speaker 02

  Which, again, I don't believe this. Theories on who killed him and why have made headlines. Young DNC staffer died just as he was on the cusp of starting a political dream, one that appeared to be the perfect next step for a political path launched during his teenage years.

• 25:33Mark Gagnon?

  Hmm. All right.

• 25:36Speaker 00

  But I don't think it's true.

• 25:36Mark Gagnon?

  Hypothetically.

• 25:37Speaker 00

  But that's just one.

• 25:38Mark Gagnon?

  But hypothetically, that's like if somebody from the gang starts releasing some files. We not taking them out. No.

• 25:49Speaker 02

  You would be perfect in politics. You really would be perfect. You have the perfect.

• 25:53Speaker 00

  I joke, I kid.

• 25:53Speaker 02

  You have a mafia brain.

• 25:54Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, we don't do crime. We don't do crime.

• 25:58Speaker 02

  You'd be terrible in politics. Actually, you sound like Bill Clinton. You're like, have you ever done crime?

• 26:02Mark Gagnon?

  No. See?

• 26:04Speaker 02

  Easy.

• 26:04Mark Gagnon?

  That's it.

• 26:05Speaker 00

  Russia just took somebody out that was in the files.

• 26:07Mark Gagnon?

  Who?

• 26:09Speaker 00

  God, what is this guy's name? I know his, like, daughter was crying on Instagram, saying, like, Putin killed my dad. And then it's kind of this fucked up, it's morbid, but, uh, she goes, "I didn't really have a good relationship with him, but Putin did kill my dad." Like, I don't know why she brought that up. I don't understand why that was important at all. But, uh, yeah, what is this guy's name?

• 26:35Speaker 02

  Just in the interest of full.

• 26:36Speaker 00

  Umar Z... Zabrebrow.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  How are you gonna act like you knew his name?

• 26:43Speaker 00

  I knew his DZ. Actually, it's hard to pronounce.

• 26:47Speaker 02

  What's his name?

• 26:47Speaker 00

  Umar Zabrebrow.

• 26:49Speaker 02

  It's, oh, it's right there. What could it be?

• 26:51Speaker 00

  He's 67 and was discovered with a gunshot wound to the head at the Vesper Tverskaya Luxury Residential Complex in Moscow.

• 27:01Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, just a botched robbery.

• 27:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's a botched robbery, obviously. Disbrowlov's name had surfaced many weeks earlier in documents tied to Epstein in an email sent to Ghislaine Maxwell, the former girlfriend of longtime confidant of disgraced finance here. Okay, so, uh, you know, Putin's cleaning house of all the Epstein associates.

• 27:21Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 27:23Speaker 00

  Is this what Russia thinks of us? Like, we have this idea of Russia, like, anybody goes against Putin or goes against the regime, that, like, they get taken out. But, like, people get taken out here that are, you know, randomly connected to shit. So is this what other countries think of us?

• 27:38Mark Gagnon?

  That's a good question. I don't think so.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  Probably.

• 27:42Speaker 00

  They must, or at least they must get propagandized in that way, like, or maybe Russia goes, "Well, yeah, we do it here, but in the States, they do it as well, so this is just how countries work."

• 27:50Speaker 02

  The thing is, conspiracy theories are easy when you don't have an emotional connection. You know what I mean?

• 27:54Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 27:54Speaker 02

  So if you tell me like, "Oh yeah, there's like this very powerful wealthy guy in Russia, and he was supposed to testify before the thing against Putin, and he fell out of a window."

• 28:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:04Speaker 02

  You're just like, "I, they obviously killed him."

• 28:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:06Speaker 02

  Like, we can just easily get on board with that.

• 28:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:08Speaker 02

  But if you start connecting in America, where you're like, "Oh yeah, well, there was this guy that was working with Obama that died in a paddle thing in a small amount of water." All of a sudden, you got Americans be like, "No, alright, well, let's look at the facts." You know, like, let's look into it.

• 28:21Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 28:22Speaker 02

  And it's the emotional connection, you're like, "It can't be."

• 28:24Speaker 00

  If that happened to Russia, there's no question.

• 28:27Speaker 02

  I'm not saying it did or didn't, I'm saying the emotional connection.

• 28:30Speaker 00

  If Putin's chef drowned in four feet of water?

• 28:32Speaker 02

  I mean, even saying it, you're like, "Yes."

• 28:34Speaker 00

  If his chef drowned in four feet of water, we'd be like, "Ah, something fishy going on over here."

• 28:37Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, probably.

• 28:38Speaker 00

  Right?

• 28:38Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 28:39Speaker 00

  But here, and because it's Obama, we're like, "Ah, of course not."

• 28:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:42Mark Gagnon?

  Obama would never, guys, come on, son.

• 28:44Speaker 00

  Yes, we know, he would never.

• 28:45Speaker 02

  Obviously.

• 28:46Speaker 00

  He would never, exactly.

• 28:47Mark Gagnon?

  Come on. It was Clintons.

• 28:52Speaker 00

  Okay, what else is going on, guys? What's happening in the world right now? Obviously, we're at war.

• 28:57Speaker 02

  Fucking...

• 28:57Speaker 00

  We're at war. Are you guys like, do you feel existential anxiety about this war?

• 29:03Speaker 02

  I mean, kind of, a little.

• 29:05Speaker 00

  I feel it.

• 29:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, a little.

• 29:07Speaker 00

  Hmm. There's that saying, like, uh, when the, we should look up who said this, but when the war starts, the truth dies. Have you heard of that?

• 29:14Speaker 02

  No.

• 29:15Speaker 00

  And it's like, basically, once the war begins, I mean, before the war even, but especially once it begins, like, the propaganda machine starts. And this is like...

• 29:22Mark Gagnon?

  From both sides.

• 29:23Speaker 00

  From both sides. And so you don't really know, and now, information is disseminated so quickly, and with fucking AI.

• 29:29Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 29:30Speaker 00

  Like, Ben Yehuda sent a great thing, it's like, uh, "Video games have gotten so good that now we can't really discern between reality and video games, especially with like, some of this like fighter jet footage."

• 29:40Speaker 02

  Oh, that's just fire. Yeah, have you seen these?

• 29:42Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 29:43Speaker 02

  It'll just be footage of a jet, and you're like, "Oh, this looks amazing."

• 29:46Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 29:46Speaker 02

  And it's like the most insane thing, it's like flying through a city, you're like, "What?"

• 29:49Speaker 00

  Or like a jet evading a missile, and the missile goes like right under the plane, and then it does like a backflip over, and you're like, "Oh, we're the best, we got the best."

• 29:57Speaker 02

  Or an AI rabbi's dropping knowledge.

• 30:00Speaker 00

  Yo!

• 30:02Speaker 02

  Marches let me know those are AI.

• 30:04Mark Gagnon?

  Wait, what?

• 30:05Speaker 02

  Do you have this joke?

• 30:06Mark Gagnon?

  You gotta pull this up.

• 30:07Speaker 02

  I mean, this, yo, I didn't know he was AI. I thought, I thought dudes was spitting.

• 30:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:15Speaker 02

  We were talking and I was like, oh, yeah. Hold on.

• 30:18Mark Gagnon?

  Rabbi's blueprint.

• 30:20Speaker 02

  We're talking and, and we're talking about like, you know, AI stuff that's obviously AI. And I was like, yeah, and like, I'm seeing these AI rabbis that are like dropping like Jewish secrets. And it's obviously AI. And Schultz was like, wait, what do you mean?

• 30:34Speaker 00

  I thought they were giving up game, bro. I thought they was giving up game. Listen, watch.

• 30:37Mark Gagnon?

  You getting caught.

• 30:38Speaker 00

  You getting caught.

• 30:40Speaker 06

  Will wear a $10 shirt and own $10 million in real estate. Here's why. You fly business class once and post it everywhere. We fly free and post nothing. You eat at the fancy restaurant.

• 30:56Speaker 02

  Come on, keep going, keep going, keep going. Cause at the end, he's gonna be like, subscribe for.

• 31:02Speaker 06

  Save this and read it on payday. Send this to someone who needs to stop pretending and start building. I put everything I know in one guide.

• 31:13Speaker 02

  Oh, it's selling something.

• 31:17Speaker 02

  So Schultz saw this rabbi going.

• 31:19Speaker 00

  I watched the whole thing.

• 31:20Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, he definitely didn't get to the.

• 31:21Speaker 02

  Link in bio.

• 31:22Speaker 00

  No, I didn't see a link in bio.

• 31:24Mark Gagnon?

  There's just so many things.

• 31:26Speaker 00

  But I turned it off immediately when he was like, you guys eat at a nice restaurant. We own the building.

• 31:31Speaker 02

  It's like, well, yeah, one of those is way more fucking expensive than the other. How do you get enough money to buy the fucking building? It's not like we're deciding between eating a steak dinner and then buying a fucking building. Right? One is a hundred dollars and the other is 20 million.

• 31:45Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, but his accent should be stronger. If you look like that, the accent gotta be stronger.

• 31:51Speaker 02

  Gotta be. It just gotta be. So that should have been, that should have been the first step.

• 31:57Speaker 00

  He's not Seinfeld-ing it or nothing.

• 32:00Speaker 02

  And then why does he have some cognac sitting right there?

• 32:03Speaker 00

  You eat Gucci. We own the whole city.

• 32:06Mark Gagnon?

  There you go.

• 32:07Speaker 00

  You guys use chopsticks. We buy the Asians in the containers. Like, what are these? What are these comparisons? But why does it, like, people will fall for this fucking idiots?

• 32:19Speaker 02

  You, why?

• 32:20Speaker 00

  What do you mean? Who? What? Me?

• 32:23Speaker 02

  You!

• 32:24Speaker 00

  Come on!

• 32:24Speaker 02

  Yes, bro.

• 32:27Speaker 00

  You guys drink alcohol. We own water.

• 32:34Speaker 02

  And look at all the comments, people be like, "Yes, Glock it."

• 32:39Speaker 02

  Such good advice. Look, it is fire advice, but...

• 32:42Speaker 00

  What is the advice? Guys, instead of buying Gucci sneakers,

• 32:46Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 32:47Speaker 00

  Buy all the airplanes.

• 32:48Speaker 02

  Yes. How is that not good advice?

• 32:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, like, why didn't I think of that, guys?

• 32:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:53Speaker 00

  Why did I not think of that?

• 32:55Speaker 02

  Why did you not think of it?

• 32:55Speaker 00

  Instead of buying baby formula.

• 32:57Speaker 02

  Do what?

• 32:59Speaker 00

  Buy the world.

• 33:02Speaker 00

  Buy the whole world.

• 33:03Speaker 02

  Have an island.

• 33:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, have it. Instead of buying baby formula, eat the babies. Just devour them. You will have eternal life. What is this? He was like he flies for free. I'm still trying to figure that one out.

• 33:17Speaker 02

  Bro, you subscribe for more. Get the link in the bio.

• 33:19Speaker 00

  Instead of watching movies, own Hollywood. This is the advice he's giving us, right?

• 33:25Speaker 02

  But isn't that you know people don't know Jews?

• 33:27Speaker 00

  Because they believe it.

• 33:28Speaker 02

  There are people watching this being like, "Yo, he's spamming."

• 33:31Speaker 00

  I never thought of that option.

• 33:33Speaker 02

  He's like, "Bro, I need to subscribe for the Jew magic. I need to know the secrets." What secrets?

• 33:39Speaker 00

  Babe, we can't go out to dinner tonight. Why not? Well, I'm just gonna buy the block. So, I was dinner or buying a block. I think I should buy it.

• 33:47Speaker 02

  Oh, this shit kill me. People really think they're wizards. That's maybe laugh. People being antisemitic in the comments.

• 33:55Speaker 00

  What are they saying?

• 33:57Speaker 02

  Stolen land made you rich. It's like, bro, it's a robot.

• 34:02Speaker 00

  They also take food stamps and public assistance at very high rates.

• 34:08Speaker 00

  They're getting trolled.

• 34:09Speaker 02

  And there's an Indian guy in...

• 34:12Speaker 00

  Mumbai.

• 34:13Speaker 02

  In Mumbai, making an AI rabbi, putting out basic dumb financial advice that kinda makes sense. And then people are having geopolitical discourse in the comments. It's the funniest thing. This is, it's crazy. This is real. This is real life. This is the timeline that we're in.

• 34:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, the whole internet is cooked.

• 34:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're cooked.

• 34:29Speaker 00

  It is. I'm at the point where like, I don't believe a single thing on the internet. Is there anything?

• 34:33Speaker 02

  Yes, you do.

• 34:35Speaker 00

  This is good financial advice.

• 34:39Speaker 00

  Wow, this is good financial advice. They don't buy hats, dude.

• 34:43Speaker 02

  No.

• 34:44Speaker 00

  They don't buy hats.

• 34:46Speaker 02

  They don't.

• 34:46Speaker 00

  What do they do?

• 34:47Speaker 02

  They own the internet.

• 34:48Speaker 00

  They own haircuts.

• 34:49Speaker 02

  They own haircuts.

• 34:50Speaker 00

  They own all haircuts. They own the barbers. They don't need a hat now.

• 34:53Speaker 02

  Well, they stop at the curls. Keep going.

• 34:56Speaker 00

  I'm just saying. I don't know. I just like every single thing I see. Maybe I should just get off the fucking internet for a minute.

• 35:03Speaker 02

  Yes, bro.

• 35:04Speaker 00

  Are you off?

• 35:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, bro. Quiet Luxury. You gotta go on Quiet Luxury.

• 35:08Speaker 00

  What's Quiet Luxury, Mark?

• 35:09Speaker 02

  Quiet Luxury is the new-

• 35:11Mark Gagnon?

  Stop clocking it. That shit just pissed me off. Stop doing it.

• 35:13Speaker 02

  No, I'm clocking it. You need to start clocking it.

• 35:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, you don't clock enough.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  You're not-

• 35:16Speaker 00

  I think he's jealous that you clocked it before him.

• 35:18Mark Gagnon?

  Son, it's a black girl thing. Stop doing it.

• 35:20Speaker 02

  It's a gay guy thing that I almost stole.

• 35:22Mark Gagnon?

  Nah.

• 35:23Speaker 02

  Okay, clocking it. Yes. Obviously.

• 35:26Speaker 00

  Wait, is it this finger?

• 35:27Speaker 02

  No.

• 35:28Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 35:28Speaker 02

  See, that's the... Come on, bro.

• 35:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:31Mark Gagnon?

  Come on, clock it.

• 35:32Speaker 00

  Clock it.

• 35:33Speaker 02

  Clock it.

• 35:34Speaker 00

  Clock it.

• 35:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, just clock it, dude.

• 35:40Speaker 02

  Quiet Luxury, this is how you signal luxury in the new era, okay? Buy less stuff, minimalism.

• 35:48Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 35:49Speaker 02

  Eat insects, okay? Subscribe to things, don't own anything.

• 35:53Speaker 00

  Uh huh.

• 35:54Speaker 02

  It's the new world order. No, Quiet Luxury is literally like the new luxury indicators. And being chronically online, that's low status, bro.

• 36:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:02Speaker 02

  You gotta elevate. You gotta ascend.

• 36:03Speaker 00

  You gotta ascend.

• 36:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, and if you're chronically online, you're cooking your brain.

• 36:07Speaker 00

  I feel cooked, man.

• 36:08Speaker 02

  You think Clavicular is really gonna recommend that you're online all day?

• 36:11Speaker 00

  I don't think so. No.

• 36:13Speaker 02

  You need to ascend immediately. Bro, you saw him with Piers Morgan?

• 36:17Mark Gagnon?

  Really? No?

• 36:18Speaker 02

  This is-

• 36:19Speaker 00

  This is the fuck-

• 36:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, hey, why were you on the island, Piers?

• 36:23Speaker 00

  Bro.

• 36:23Speaker 02

  Why were you on the island? With Piers Morgan is so funny, cuz he drops a sound effect on the news.

• 36:31Speaker 00

  Wait, what?

• 36:32Speaker 02

  Dude, go, Piers Morgan, Clavicular, ascend. This is, basically, if you don't know Clavicular.

• 36:39Mark Gagnon?

  I know, I know. I just don't get his appeal, but it's just not for me.

• 36:43Speaker 02

  I'm buying to it. Uh, we'll try to pull this.

• 36:45Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 36:45Speaker 02

  Uh, he's the looks maxer that went on Piers Morgan's show. And he, Piers Morgan is basically asking him about his questions, or about his stances on politics and his philosophy. And then, uh, Clavicular roasts him with a sound effect on his own show. Play the clip. It's quite silly to me that you're with the number one looks maxer, and instead of asking how you could ascend, so that, you know, your wife wouldn't read out captions like, "When my-

• 37:11Mark Gagnon?

  Husband's away, Mr. Sut comes out to play. Maybe if you ask me how to ascend, then all the stuff happening to you. You know what I mean?

• 37:25Mark Gagnon?

  Pierce goes, alright, well, I mean. Oh, that is. I'm just trying to ask questions. Maybe I do get it.

• 37:35Speaker 00

  Oh, man, that shit cracked me up, dude. So you got to ascend is my point, and by being chronically online, you're spiking your cortisol suboptimal for ascension.

• 37:43Mark Gagnon?

  Ah.

• 37:44Speaker 00

  That's what I'm saying, dude.

• 37:45Mark Gagnon?

  Does your generation, like, believe him? Like, think he's an attractive guy? Like, is this the cool guy now?

• 37:51Speaker 00

  Pull up a pic.

• 37:53Mark Gagnon?

  Hmm?

• 37:53Speaker 00

  What do you mean, my generation? You can't look at this guy and understand that he's fully ascended?

• 37:56Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, but I mean, like, first.

• 37:58Speaker 00

  You don't think his orbitals are optimal? You don't think he has great symmetry?

• 38:01Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but it was like the homeless look that you, what you go for, that was kinda in. And now, is this in now?

• 38:09Mark Gagnon?

  You didn't even need to poke at him to prove your point.

• 38:13Speaker 00

  He said you're old, bro. He said it's your watch.

• 38:17Mark Gagnon?

  No, but that used to be in. Nah. But now, is it different? You used to be in, bro.

• 38:22Speaker 00

  Nah, I was never in. I was never in, bro.

• 38:23Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, you are.

• 38:24Speaker 00

  I'm a trad cat, bro. I'm a fucking trad cat, like, me and Shy, I'm not in. I'm not cool. I don't do hookup culture. I don't do that kinda stuff.

• 38:31Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that used to be in. Now, this is, this is the thing now?

• 38:34Speaker 00

  You're telling me this guy's not handsome? You're really gonna look at this and be like, oh, your generation thinks that this ripped looks maxer isn't fucking a piece?

• 38:39Mark Gagnon?

  Some girls don't like that shit. Or they claim they don't like that shit.

• 38:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, bro, my exchange students live in my house, those kinda bro. That, normal women, they think this is fire.

• 38:48Mark Gagnon?

  Do women like this shit?

• 38:49Speaker 07

  He's unmiked. He were talking.

• 38:51Mark Gagnon?

  Oh. You could just say yes or no.

• 38:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, nah, nah, the handler's got him. The handler's got him, he's off, bro.

• 38:58Mark Gagnon?

  Alright. Yeah, I mean, I think he's objectively a good-looking guy.

• 39:02Speaker 00

  I think that's his utility within the stream space, is that, basically, like, a fifteen-year-old kid is able to live vicariously through a hot dude that's charismatic, that talks to women, that's famous? And on stream all day, he's like going to clubs, and if you're a fifteen-year-old dude that's like not really talking to women, or maybe if you are talking to women, I don't know his fanbase, but you're watching this being like, wow, this is awesome.

• 39:22Mark Gagnon?

  Got it. Also, his fans are young.

• 39:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, but who is? I think stream fans are young in general, so I don't know his demo specifically, but I assume.

• 39:28Mark Gagnon?

  But who is not looks-maxing?

• 39:32Speaker 00

  You?

• 39:34Speaker 00

  No. But you just keep insulting.

• 39:38Mark Gagnon?

  I'm joking, come on. Let's be silly guys.

• 39:41Speaker 00

  But uh.

• 39:42Mark Gagnon?

  Okay, you can't every every time I bomb.

• 39:46Speaker 00

  Like guys, why aren't you just being as silly as me?

• 39:48Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, come on, silly.

• 39:50Speaker 00

  But like, isn't everybody looks maxing? Like, I don't know, like, you're looks maxing, right? Like, you have an outfit that matches, like, you care about your hair, like, these things, like, yeah, that's. What did he say?

• 40:01Mark Gagnon?

  Traffic cone. He cha- he bombed.

• 40:03Speaker 00

  I didn't say that.

• 40:04Mark Gagnon?

  You walked those bombs, those bombs.

• 40:06Speaker 00

  I know, I thought you said drafting and come, and I was like, I don't even know what that means. But traffic cone is, I got it, with the hat, yeah, yeah, yeah, you didn't like that, that he said that.

• 40:15Mark Gagnon?

  I mean.

• 40:16Speaker 00

  Was it something that you considered when you put that on your head today?

• 40:20Mark Gagnon?

  No, no.

• 40:20Speaker 00

  Not at all?

• 40:21Mark Gagnon?

  No, no.

• 40:21Speaker 00

  Okay, fair enough. So, it's the food bank.

• 40:24Mark Gagnon?

  Bomb.

• 40:24Speaker 00

  It's the food bank.

• 40:25Mark Gagnon?

  Like, come on.

• 40:26Speaker 00

  It's the food bank.

• 40:27Mark Gagnon?

  It is, bang.

• 40:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, this is good, this is charitable.

• 40:30Mark Gagnon?

  And who controls, who controls that? Polly Mark.

• 40:36Speaker 00

  Holly Mark.

• 40:38Mark Gagnon?

  Hollywood.

• 40:41Speaker 00

  Polly Marquette?

• 40:42Mark Gagnon?

  There you go.

• 40:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 40:44Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 40:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, anyway, uh, but yeah, so I think it's like, this is what everybody is already doing it, and then he's just being overt about it. Like, everybody likes to pretend like they're not trying to make themselves look the best.

• 40:55Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 40:55Speaker 00

  Even when people are doing like the whole like hipster, like derelict chic, or whatever it was called in that movie, they're thinking that that's like the best version of being hot.

• 41:03Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 41:04Speaker 00

  And I think he's just, I think what's kind of maybe refreshing about it is he's just going, yeah, I'm just gonna try to be desirable as fuck, and all of you guys are trying to do it too, you just are lying about it.

• 41:13Mark Gagnon?

  Got you.

• 41:14Speaker 00

  So I think there's something nice about authentically just going, yeah, I'm dude, I'm trying to be as hot as I possibly can, because being hot is what matters, not all this other bullshit.

• 41:22Mark Gagnon?

  But then they they'll meet up together and then they're like kind of battling hotness, it's almost like Zoolander, where they're just like.

• 41:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:29Mark Gagnon?

  Looking at the camera, who can look more hot.

• 41:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:32Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, that that shit is retic like that's retarded.

• 41:35Speaker 00

  But it's also kind of fun like they're aware that it's retarded. And they're leaning into it. That's how I that's how I view it like I don't think they're taking it that serious.

• 41:42Mark Gagnon?

  I thought they're taking it serious.

• 41:43Speaker 00

  Really?

• 41:44Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, it looks like they are.

• 41:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, to you, yeah, I can see that.

• 41:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 41:47Speaker 00

  To an old guy for sure, they would definitely do that.

• 41:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, to a boomer.

• 41:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:51Speaker 02

  But you didn't do this like if you were like at like a party in your twenties. There's another guy that was like looking tough, looking cool, girls liked him. You wouldn't try to also look cool?

• 42:00Mark Gagnon?

  No, we just tried to take their bitches.

• 42:02Speaker 02

  And how would you do that?

• 42:04Mark Gagnon?

  You know, buy them drinks, get them to come to our table.

• 42:07Speaker 02

  So you try to like like mog them?

• 42:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, that would be mogging.

• 42:10Mark Gagnon?

  That's mogging?

• 42:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yo, you know what's kind of funny? No, this is kind of funny. This Al has done all this. Remember when we were at that club and Al stepped on the on the step?

• 42:22Speaker 02

  On the ledge, bro.

• 42:22Speaker 00

  On the ledge so he could be taller to the tall girl.

• 42:25Mark Gagnon?

  It's not his 2026.

• 42:26Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no, no, you were you were on frame mogging before.

• 42:30Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 42:30Speaker 00

  I saw a video where he's like, you got to set up vantage points in your house.

• 42:33Speaker 02

  Oh, that shit is fire.

• 42:34Speaker 00

  So trying to get this video up. You were frame mog you were looks maxing way you were wearing lifts. You you are clavicular.

• 42:43Speaker 02

  You're the OG mogger, dog.

• 42:44Mark Gagnon?

  Chosen one.

• 42:45Speaker 00

  There's another way to say that name that I wouldn't say, but I picture you guys could imagine it. But you.

• 42:53Speaker 02

  Bro, this is hilarious.

• 42:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, watch this.

• 42:55Speaker 06

  What you do is you have to set up what's called vantage points. So you take like something, I'm not gonna put it down. So just say this is a regular book. Don't do it with a crone. I'm gonna give you a book.

• 43:04Speaker 00

  You almost said it with a crone.

• 43:08Mark Gagnon?

  So he goes like, yeah, don't don't go.

• 43:10Speaker 06

  And then you go like rest on it. And then you set up the next vantage point like.

• 43:15Speaker 00

  Yo, this is hilarious.

• 43:17Speaker 06

  Make it to the bedroom. Oh, you're good.

• 43:20Speaker 00

  Al, this is what you were doing.

• 43:22Mark Gagnon?

  No, but not that. Yeah, but not that much.

• 43:25Speaker 00

  Not that much.

• 43:26Mark Gagnon?

  I was trying to talk to a tall bitch.

• 43:28Speaker 00

  That's what he's saying. He's like, listen, if you've got lifts, you got to maintain that height when you get back to the house. You don't want to walk around the house with your sneakers. So you got to set up your vantage points.

• 43:36Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, no, once I got the numbers already. Now I'm a short king. I got the number already. You can't you can't give me backseats now.

• 43:47Speaker 00

  They could not fuck you.

• 43:48Mark Gagnon?

  Nah.

• 43:53Speaker 02

  Well, you gotta save yourself because either you're so charming.

• 43:55Mark Gagnon?

  So charming.

• 43:56Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 43:56Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 43:57Speaker 00

  Or that they, or.

• 43:59Mark Gagnon?

  No, just. Just.

• 44:01Speaker 02

  I'm letting you.

• 44:02Speaker 00

  Got it. You're so charming, they forget about your height.

• 44:05Speaker 02

  Right. You change the vantage point in their mind.

• 44:07Mark Gagnon?

  Boom.

• 44:08Speaker 00

  You can make an argument that your hat right now is, is vantage points. Right? Cause I don't even know if it's in frame.

• 44:14Mark Gagnon?

  There's war going on.

• 44:17Speaker 00

  This is what we care.

• 44:18Speaker 02

  Frame mugging himself.

• 44:19Speaker 00

  You are being framed by your own hat.

• 44:22Mark Gagnon?

  This is what we care about now.

• 44:23Speaker 00

  No, I'm just saying.

• 44:24Mark Gagnon?

  People dying in the Middle East.

• 44:26Speaker 00

  Six inches. You're probably 5'11" with that hat on.

• 44:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, respect.

• 44:32Speaker 00

  So this is.

• 44:33Speaker 02

  He made him smile.

• 44:34Speaker 00

  I know, I know.

• 44:36Mark Gagnon?

  Respect.

• 44:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, but.

• 44:39Mark Gagnon?

  I don't think that he knows that I was dissing him. I know, I don't care.

• 44:44Mark Gagnon?

  I heard 5'11", yeah.

• 44:46Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 44:47Mark Gagnon?

  Maxing it is.

• 44:48Speaker 00

  Fair enough. So you are the ultimate looks maxer. You could make an argument that the nails play a part of this? The outfits, everything?

• 44:55Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but I just do what I like.

• 44:57Speaker 00

  That's right. You say you just do what you like. He would say, I just do what gets bitches. And that's, I think, what wins is because we know that you're doing this for male attention.

• 45:11Speaker 02

  He's an interesting twist.

• 45:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:14Speaker 00

  Well, I know you're not doing it for female attention. You have a wife. Obviously, you don't care what women have to say at all. Definitely not.

• 45:19Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I know. Guys just love my nails, dude. You guys talk about it all the time.

• 45:23Speaker 00

  We love it. It's time for attention.

• 45:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, we love your opinion.

• 45:25Mark Gagnon?

  This is my icebreaker. I come through with nails. You come, I'm fucking you now.

• 45:30Speaker 00

  Exactly. I like it. I like it.

• 45:33Mark Gagnon?

  We try, guys.

• 45:37Speaker 00

  What is, what is Al?

• 45:39Mark Gagnon?

  I love it. I love it.

• 45:40Speaker 00

  What is Al's?

• 45:42Mark Gagnon?

  We try.

• 45:43Speaker 02

  From bombing a joke and going to commercial.

• 45:47Speaker 00

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• 49:03Speaker 02

  What do you think Kavikula thinks about everything going on in the Middle East, man?

• 49:07Speaker 02

  Just hope, I wonder what his take would be.

• 49:09Speaker 00

  I'm sure he'll tell us.

• 49:10Speaker 02

  Like, you feel like if Khomeini was like, looks maxing, like, do you think this wouldn't have happened to him?

• 49:16Speaker 00

  Can you bring up that Khomeini picture?

• 49:18Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, that shit was wild. You know, you actually know what happened to the leader of Iran?

• 49:23Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 49:23Speaker 02

  Got taken out?

• 49:24Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 49:25Speaker 00

  Are you up to date with all this stuff?

• 49:26Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I was listening to that Asian they're going on.

• 49:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:29Speaker 00

  And what?

• 49:30Speaker 02

  What's your, what's your take?

• 49:31Speaker 00

  What was your take?

• 49:32Mark Gagnon?

  I mean, he was breaking it down. It's all about water, guys.

• 49:35Speaker 00

  Oh, really?

• 49:36Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, it's all about the water.

• 49:37Speaker 00

  Really?

• 49:38Speaker 02

  So what was he doing with the water?

• 49:39Speaker 00

  How familiar were you with Khomeini?

• 49:42Mark Gagnon?

  Stop it.

• 49:43Speaker 00

  What?

• 49:43Mark Gagnon?

  Like, I'm stopping. That's Letterman. I know Letterman.

• 49:49Speaker 00

  It took him like four months. It took him four months to find out.

• 49:53Speaker 02

  How long?

• 49:54Mark Gagnon?

  That would have been good. If I fell for that, that would have been fucking.

• 49:56Speaker 00

  You fell for it four times?

• 49:57Mark Gagnon?

  No, I didn't. I wasn't paying attention.

• 49:58Speaker 00

  I don't think you clocked it.

• 50:00Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 50:00Speaker 00

  The first time. I think it was maybe the third or fourth.

• 50:03Mark Gagnon?

  Oh. But that's good.

• 50:04Speaker 00

  All right, so break down what's happening in Iran, guys.

• 50:06Mark Gagnon?

  No, I'm not breaking it down.

• 50:08Speaker 00

  Just break it down.

• 50:08Mark Gagnon?

  I'm not breaking it.

• 50:09Speaker 00

  From Far Rock. Just break it down from Far Rock. Like, like, give us the Far Rock breakdown.

• 50:14Mark Gagnon?

  You got Arab niggas and Jew niggas.

• 50:17Speaker 02

  This is good.

• 50:18Mark Gagnon?

  All right.

• 50:19Speaker 02

  I'm like, hey.

• 50:19Mark Gagnon?

  I think I guess. Jew niggas need the white boys help. So we the boys, we come in.

• 50:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 50:26Mark Gagnon?

  You know.

• 50:26Speaker 02

  You're white.

• 50:27Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, y'all.

• 50:29Speaker 02

  Okay, got it.

• 50:30Mark Gagnon?

  We out of this. Like, I do, I think.

• 50:32Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 50:32Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. And so, I said, we have war now.

• 50:40Speaker 02

  That was a good break.

• 50:41Mark Gagnon?

  We have war now.

• 50:42Speaker 02

  That was a good breakdown. And then, how long is the war gonna last? Like, what are the plans for war? What are we gonna do?

• 50:48Mark Gagnon?

  If it's boots on the ground.

• 50:49Speaker 02

  Huh?

• 50:49Mark Gagnon?

  If we put boots on the ground. If like, if we, Tim's on the ground, like, what's gonna be? We got to. Yeah. We got to. We can't win this as in a full aerial attack.

• 50:58Speaker 02

  We can't.

• 50:58Mark Gagnon?

  We can't.

• 50:59Speaker 02

  Why not? Why is that?

• 51:00Mark Gagnon?

  Cause Asian nigga said so.

• 51:05Speaker 02

  You're referring to Professor Jeong?

• 51:07Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 51:07Speaker 02

  Is that who you're referring?

• 51:08Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. First history teacher I ever liked.

• 51:10Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 51:11Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 51:11Speaker 02

  And then, what did, why did he say we can't win from an aerial attack?

• 51:17Mark Gagnon?

  There's too many of them.

• 51:20Mark Gagnon?

  And they have all. He's describing the plot as part of them. You think this is 300?

• 51:25Speaker 02

  Why have we not done this with every issue that happens?

• 51:29Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 51:29Speaker 02

  Listen, okay, go.

• 51:31Mark Gagnon?

  All right, so.

• 51:34Speaker 02

  He's getting comfy.

• 51:37Mark Gagnon?

  It's fun, this is, it's enlightening.

• 51:39Speaker 02

  Vintage bags right now.

• 51:40Mark Gagnon?

  Vintage bags right now. Let me enlighten y'all.

• 51:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 51:43Mark Gagnon?

  Put us on, y'all know. Mog is free. Mog is, yeah, exactly. You got prob. So, it's a religious thing. And they are gonna fight to the end of time. And they got all the guns, and the people don't have any guns.

• 51:58Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 51:59Mark Gagnon?

  So, we gotta go boots on the ground to take them out. To have, to really have regime change. Cause they're gonna keep fighting until one side is wiped out.

• 52:12Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 52:12Mark Gagnon?

  Yep.

• 52:13Speaker 02

  Now, why could, why would boots on the ground stop that?

• 52:16Mark Gagnon?

  That's the only way we can attack Cantahan Combat.

• 52:19Speaker 02

  Hmm, got it.

• 52:21Mark Gagnon?

  Cause we can't just keep bombing, especially if they hide amongst the civilians. Like, we're not just gonna keep bombing everybody.

• 52:27Speaker 02

  Right.

• 52:27Mark Gagnon?

  Then we'll look like Israel and lose all support.

• 52:31Speaker 02

  Ah, cause we can't take out any of the civilians.

• 52:35Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 52:35Speaker 02

  Obviously.

• 52:36Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, let me Asian nigga on that real quick.

• 52:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 52:39Mark Gagnon?

  So.

• 52:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 52:40Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, God. So, let me break it down.

• 52:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 52:42Mark Gagnon?

  So it's. War. Damn, come on, you can't even get a pen. Works, man, come on, that would have been five.

• 52:50Speaker 00

  That's racist, bro. Come on.

• 52:52Mark Gagnon?

  It's all good. I broke it down to these guys. And then. Oh, fuck.

• 53:00Mark Gagnon?

  Something with the water.

• 53:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, what happened with the water?

• 53:03Mark Gagnon?

  All the Middle East.

• 53:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 53:05Mark Gagnon?

  They use more water than they have like access to, right? Like fresh water and all that shit.

• 53:10Speaker 00

  Got it, it's a desert.

• 53:11Mark Gagnon?

  And they convert saltwater to freshwater.

• 53:15Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 53:16Mark Gagnon?

  And so if we bomb all of these.

• 53:17Speaker 00

  Desalination.

• 53:18Mark Gagnon?

  There you go. If we bomb them. Now.

• 53:22Speaker 00

  Now they'll be thirsty.

• 53:23Mark Gagnon?

  Destabilizes the whole fucking area.

• 53:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, they'll be hella thirsty. They'll be so thirsty they can't fight.

• 53:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. And the straight of.

• 53:31Speaker 00

  Hormuz. Hormuz.

• 53:35Mark Gagnon?

  Mad oil leaves. And all of their food comes in. So if they close that. All of the Middle East is gonna be very hungry.

• 53:45Speaker 00

  And thirsty.

• 53:46Mark Gagnon?

  Yes, and if they close that, China, India, a bunch of niggas, they don't get any of their oil. So now we're hurting them.

• 53:53Speaker 00

  So the whole world is gonna hurt.

• 53:55Mark Gagnon?

  Whole world's gonna hurt.

• 53:56Speaker 00

  And eventually with enough pressure, the whole world decides what?

• 54:00Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know. I ain't finished the video.

• 54:07Speaker 00

  I ain't got to the end yet. You were spitting.

• 54:10Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 54:13Speaker 00

  That was fire. Yeah, they will be hungry and thirsty and that shit is not good, especially during Ramadan. Well, maybe that's the time that they're most accustomed to it. Maybe we planned this in the wrong time.

• 54:22Mark Gagnon?

  Oh.

• 54:23Speaker 00

  If the concern is hunger and thirst, like this is the month where they're, they are ready for that shit. Yeah, that's a good point. So they have an advantage over us. This is their hungry thirsty month, so they're like, alright, run it, let's go. We were already planning on not drinking a lot of water, we were already planning on. Not eating.

• 54:36Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 54:38Mark Gagnon?

  Got a good point.

• 54:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's a good point.

• 54:39Mark Gagnon?

  Hmm.

• 54:40Speaker 00

  So maybe they're ready. See, no one even clocked that. No one even clocked that. They were all like, oh, when should we do it? And Trump was like Ramadan. That was Trump's five D check. The Ramadan time, they'll be hungry, thirsty, we can stretch it out.

• 54:52Mark Gagnon?

  All right.

• 54:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:53Mark Gagnon?

  Possible solution.

• 54:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:55Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 54:57Mark Gagnon?

  Everyone keeps wondering, what does Israel do for America?

• 55:01Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 55:01Mark Gagnon?

  It's a question that keeps coming up. It came up on my show in mornings. People are wondering, what does Israel do for America?

• 55:08Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 55:09Mark Gagnon?

  America, we're swinging our dicks around and just like, yo Greenland, you're us now. Yo Venezuela, we'll take your oil.

• 55:16Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 55:17Mark Gagnon?

  Why don't we take Israel?

• 55:19Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 55:20Speaker 02

  Fifty first state.

• 55:21Mark Gagnon?

  Boom.

• 55:22Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 55:23Mark Gagnon?

  Move a bunch of Americans there. Take their resources. I mean, whichever ones want to go.

• 55:30Mark Gagnon?

  You know? Whichever ones want to go.

• 55:33Speaker 00

  Open invite.

• 55:34Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 55:35Speaker 00

  Whoever's interested.

• 55:36Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, you know?

• 55:39Mark Gagnon?

  But now, at least we get something and we have a reason why we need to defend them. Cause they're us now.

• 55:45Speaker 00

  Got it. Because whatever they got is ours.

• 55:47Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 55:48Speaker 00

  That's an interesting take.

• 55:49Speaker 02

  Puerto Rico.

• 55:51Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 55:52Speaker 00

  Maybe they're not a state, but they're a territory.

• 55:53Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Exactly.

• 55:54Speaker 00

  So now we have access to whatever they do.

• 55:56Mark Gagnon?

  Boom.

• 55:57Speaker 00

  And we're incentivized to defend them.

• 55:59Mark Gagnon?

  Exactly.

• 56:00Speaker 00

  With all of our military might.

• 56:01Mark Gagnon?

  We're doing this already.

• 56:03Speaker 00

  It feels disproportionate.

• 56:04Mark Gagnon?

  With nothing.

• 56:05Speaker 00

  I hear what you're saying. It's like, we're spending all this money, all this money is taxpayers ultimately gonna have to pay. Or they're gonna print a bunch of money and then the savings that we have just gets devalued.

• 56:13Mark Gagnon?

  Yep.

• 56:13Speaker 00

  And we don't really know what we get out of Iran.

• 56:15Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. So poke holes in that.

• 56:18Speaker 02

  Bro, I think, I think that's fire. I think we make them, I would think we make them fifty first state or territory. I think we set up.

• 56:25Speaker 00

  Start them out as a territory. I don't know if you jump in a state, just, it's like a trial pair, it's like a green card.

• 56:29Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that could be good. Yeah, that'd be good. And then, uh, we put, I mean, who would run it, I guess? Do we keep Bibi or do we get a, like an American governor or something? Marjorie Taylor Greene? Something like that?

• 56:42Speaker 00

  Get that Kushner nigga. He's over there a lot.

• 56:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:45Speaker 00

  Tucker maybe?

• 56:45Speaker 02

  Tucker? We could get Tucker to do it.

• 56:47Speaker 00

  I don't think they feel in Tucker right now.

• 56:49Speaker 02

  But maybe that's what you need sometimes, you know?

• 56:51Speaker 00

  A little pushback. A little Candace.

• 56:54Speaker 02

  You want Candace?

• 56:57Mark Gagnon?

  Candace, you know?

• 56:59Speaker 00

  I feel like they'll

• 56:59Mark Gagnon?

  Shake shit up real quick.

• 57:00Speaker 00

  They'll convert to Islam before they're like, "Fucking Prime Minister of Israel."

• 57:07Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 57:08Speaker 00

  Did you guys watch Candace's Charlie Kirk, uh, or what is it called?

• 57:11Speaker 02

  The Bride of Charlie.

• 57:12Speaker 00

  The Bride of Charlie doc?

• 57:14Mark Gagnon?

  The Bride of Charlie, that's

• 57:15Speaker 00

  You haven't watched this?

• 57:16Mark Gagnon?

  No. I haven't.

• 57:17Speaker 02

  Dude Candace is just on one dude.

• 57:19Mark Gagnon?

  Really?

• 57:19Speaker 02

  She's just spin. She's just spin.

• 57:21Mark Gagnon?

  She's going a little crazy, right? Like she's a little

• 57:23Speaker 02

  I guess time will tell, bro. Time will tell.

• 57:25Speaker 00

  Time will tell. What if she's right?

• 57:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:28Speaker 00

  What if she's right?

• 57:29Speaker 02

  Cause the conspiracy theories of today is the prophet of tomorrow.

• 57:33Speaker 00

  They probably called Professor Jane crazy.

• 57:35Mark Gagnon?

  Hmm. Is she?

• 57:36Speaker 00

  Probably called Professor Jane crazy.

• 57:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:38Speaker 00

  Now he just called it perfectly.

• 57:40Speaker 02

  He's that nigga.

• 57:40Speaker 00

  Nah, but they called it crazy.

• 57:42Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, he's that nigga. They called him crazy?

• 57:44Speaker 00

  Didn't they call him crazy? They were like, he called, what did he say? What was his big call? He said Trump was gonna win the election, that we were gonna invade Iran.

• 57:50Speaker 02

  And, bro.

• 57:51Mark Gagnon?

  But like, were people upset at him?

• 57:53Speaker 02

  I mean, people were just like, eh, maybe, dah dah dah.

• 57:55Speaker 00

  They're like, what the fuck do you know?

• 57:56Speaker 02

  Do you remember on this podcast, I was quoting him, being like, oh yeah, we're gonna invade Iran. Boots on the ground. And we have a clip of it. I should pull it up and everyone in the pod was kinda like,

• 58:06Mark Gagnon?

  Shut up.

• 58:07Speaker 00

  No, this is good. I'm listening.

• 58:08Mark Gagnon?

  No, I'm listening, but still.

• 58:10Speaker 02

  We were just

• 58:12Speaker 02

  I'm just kidding. I am technically listening. I can't block you out. But no, it was, we brought it up and people were kinda like, yeah, I don't think so. Maybe, we'll see. But he predicted that in 2024 and he said that JD Vance would be Vice President.

• 58:25Mark Gagnon?

  Hmm.

• 58:25Speaker 02

  Back in 2024. Technically, he said Nikki Haley first, but he was like, if it's not Nikki Haley, it'll be JD.

• 58:29Speaker 00

  Okay, here's a question. They gotta sell the war to America, cause nobody in America wants this war outside of the Persians. Right? And I understand the Persians are fired up. They're fired up.

• 58:37Speaker 02

  Persians are fired up.

• 58:38Speaker 00

  I don't blame them, right? They're talking to their family back there and they're just like, Jesus Christ, they gotta suffer through this horrible fucking regime. And we're in Beverly Hills and we're driving G wagons and life is sick. So I get that. Um, but the rest of the people in America can't even point out Iran on a map. Like, the average person, do you think knows where the fuck Iran is?

• 58:56Speaker 02

  Probably not.

• 58:56Speaker 00

  No, not at all.

• 58:57Mark Gagnon?

  Watch the Asian nigga, you'll learn.

• 58:58Speaker 02

  Pull up a map.

• 58:59Speaker 00

  Pull up a map, let's do it. Okay, so how do, how does the government propagandize us into a war? Imagine this was before, like, you know, the democratization of information, where like, the government could just tell us what to think and we just kinda believed it. How do they get us into this one?

• 59:15Speaker 02

  Well, the nuke strategy is a classic, but I mean, that one's tried and true.

• 59:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:19Speaker 02

  Everyone loves the nuke strategy.

• 59:20Mark Gagnon?

  They have nukes.

• 59:21Speaker 02

  They're about to have nukes.

• 59:22Speaker 00

  They're about to have them.

• 59:23Speaker 02

  Any minute now.

• 59:24Speaker 00

  Any minute.

• 59:25Mark Gagnon?

  But we destroyed it.

• 59:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, but they're quick at getting it back.

• 59:28Speaker 02

  They're so fast, these Persians. They put, they built a nuke out of four G wagons, they put it together, they built another nuke.

• 59:34Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 59:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, so we had to, we had to.

• 59:37Mark Gagnon?

  So, they, they're trying that, I don't think that's working.

• 59:39Speaker 00

  But so, Americans aren't really concerned about the Iranian nuke threat. So, how else? Why, why else do we need to go in there?

• 59:46Speaker 02

  Radical Islam.

• 59:47Speaker 00

  Radical Islam.

• 59:48Speaker 02

  They're, they're, they're running around, they're trying to, they're trying to shoot, they're, they hate us.

• 59:51Speaker 00

  How about this one?

• 59:52Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yes.

• 59:53Speaker 00

  How about this one?

• 59:54Mark Gagnon?

  Iran has the largest population of Shia.

• 59:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:59Mark Gagnon?

  That makes a huge difference.

• 1:00:00Speaker 00

  That is true. That is true.

• 1:00:02Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, keep going.

• 1:00:03Speaker 00

  That is true.

• 1:00:03Mark Gagnon?

  I'm trying to drop knowledge on y'all, nigga.

• 1:00:05Speaker 00

  No, you were, you were dropping knowledge, it was very good.

• 1:00:07Mark Gagnon?

  Y'all don't know.

• 1:00:08Speaker 00

  Alright, we have to sell the American public on this war.

• 1:00:10Mark Gagnon?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:00:10Speaker 00

  Okay, so what is our sale? What is our pitch? How do we get unanimous American support?

• 1:00:18Mark Gagnon?

  Just bend over for BB like Trump is doing?

• 1:00:21Speaker 00

  Right, right, right, right, but that's not working on America.

• 1:00:23Mark Gagnon?

  I mean, gays will love it.

• 1:00:25Speaker 00

  That's what's happening. I don't even know if gays support that. They're like, there's way better dick out there.

• 1:00:31Speaker 02

  We're trying to propagandize.

• 1:00:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, we're trying to propagandize. We're not saying what's actually happening, we're trying to say like, how do you sell the war? How about this, okay? What if they go, hey, American people, the only white Super Bowl halftime show just happens to be in Iran?

• 1:00:45Mark Gagnon?

  Fire.

• 1:00:45Speaker 00

  We need to liberate it.

• 1:00:46Mark Gagnon?

  That could work, that could work.

• 1:00:48Speaker 02

  Think about that.

• 1:00:49Speaker 00

  Do you think the American people all of a sudden are like, whoa?

• 1:00:51Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:53Speaker 00

  We've been wanting this for the last seven years.

• 1:00:55Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:00:55Speaker 00

  We gotta go get it.

• 1:00:56Speaker 02

  They got, they got Luke Bryan over there.

• 1:00:58Speaker 00

  Luke Bryan?

• 1:00:59Speaker 02

  We gotta get him back.

• 1:01:00Speaker 00

  Is captured.

• 1:01:02Speaker 00

  In a bunker.

• 1:01:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:04Speaker 00

  Where they're also making nukes, but that's not the big deal. He's there making the greatest music he's ever made and he will not be released.

• 1:01:11Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:01:11Speaker 00

  Until the Iranian people are free.

• 1:01:13Speaker 02

  Yes, that might work.

• 1:01:14Mark Gagnon?

  That works on y'all?

• 1:01:16Speaker 02

  That would work a little. Imagine they said, oh, Jay-Z's in the bunker.

• 1:01:19Mark Gagnon?

  Gotta stay.

• 1:01:20Speaker 02

  Iran got Jay-Z.

• 1:01:21Speaker 00

  Iran has Jay-Z.

• 1:01:23Mark Gagnon?

  We're not putting boots on the ground for Jay-Z.

• 1:01:25Speaker 02

  Bro, Ayatollah Khomeini.

• 1:01:26Speaker 00

  He lived a long life.

• 1:01:26Speaker 02

  Bro, he picked dinner with Jay-Z and it was a trap. It was a ruse.

• 1:01:31Speaker 00

  He said, he said, dinner.

• 1:01:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:34Speaker 00

  And he got a front down in the bunker.

• 1:01:36Speaker 02

  Have a couple.

• 1:01:37Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, sorry.

• 1:01:38Speaker 02

  And they got him. You wouldn't do it.

• 1:01:40Mark Gagnon?

  No boots on the ground.

• 1:01:41Speaker 02

  No boots on the ground for Jay-Z. Who would you put boots on the ground for?

• 1:01:44Speaker 00

  For Jay-Z.

• 1:01:44Mark Gagnon?

  My mom. That's it.

• 1:01:46Speaker 02

  Alright.

• 1:01:47Mark Gagnon?

  My sister, she can go.

• 1:01:50Speaker 02

  Alright, ready?

• 1:01:51Speaker 00

  I love how he says, I'm joking, I'm joking.

• 1:01:52Speaker 02

  Ayatollah, they captured Jay-Z. Nas.

• 1:01:57Speaker 00

  He don't care.

• 1:01:59Mark Gagnon?

  He don't know anymore, right?

• 1:02:00Speaker 02

  Big Daddy Kane.

• 1:02:03Speaker 02

  And, and.

• 1:02:04Mark Gagnon?

  And.

• 1:02:05Speaker 02

  Your girl. In a crazy, very calculated, pointed, personal attack, okay?

• 1:02:10Speaker 00

  To get you to support them and disseminate this information through AM in the mornings.

• 1:02:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:15Speaker 00

  Sometime my girl, I'll cover up a little.

• 1:02:21Speaker 00

  A little Sharia might not be bad.

• 1:02:25Speaker 02

  Alright, so.

• 1:02:26Speaker 00

  Jokes. Alright, so there's nothing that could get you to support it?

• 1:02:30Mark Gagnon?

  No, absolutely not.

• 1:02:31Speaker 00

  Mark, what about you? Well, not you, but like, how would you propagandize the American people?

• 1:02:36Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 1:02:37Speaker 00

  Is this the first war of, uh, American history where they haven't even bothered to propagandize?

• 1:02:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, they didn't sell us on it. Well, they tried to, but it's like, it's not working and they're just, and they're just like, fuck it, we doing it anyway.

• 1:02:49Speaker 00

  We need it.

• 1:02:49Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:50Speaker 00

  It's for our safety. And then.

• 1:02:53Speaker 02

  I mean, they ran a couple of things, which again, predicted by Professor Jung, uh, in Trump's speech, where he was basically like, you say that you're a big hero that's going to liberate the people of Iran. Which, I mean, if they're able to get rid of the regime and put in like a much more democratic regime, technically true. But then he said-

• 1:03:10Mark Gagnon?

  It's not our responsibility for that, yo.

• 1:03:12Speaker 02

  I mean, fair, good point. But that's what he said. Trump said like, oh, I'm gonna save the people. We're gonna stop terror, we're gonna stop the funding of terror, dah dah dah. He put a bunch of reasons out.

• 1:03:20Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:03:21Speaker 02

  And that was like Trump's kind of justification.

• 1:03:24Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:26Speaker 02

  But, I mean, do you hate this guy? This guy right here?

• 1:03:29Mark Gagnon?

  Stop trying.

• 1:03:34Mark Gagnon?

  Usually it will work.

• 1:03:35Speaker 00

  You person the rubber a little bit.

• 1:03:39Speaker 00

  It was close. It was close.

• 1:03:42Mark Gagnon?

  I like Letterman too much.

• 1:03:43Speaker 00

  I really don't think there's anything that gets America to support the war.

• 1:03:47Mark Gagnon?

  Of course, we seen fucking Iraq and Afghanistan. We don't want this shit again.

• 1:03:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, I just don't think, I don't know if there's a single thing that you could get. Now, if they are able to pull it off in a short amount of time, like let's say in two weeks, they're able to do it, and the people get liberated and there's a new regime in there, I don't know if people like look at it unfavorably.

• 1:04:10Speaker 00

  But in no way are they gonna go, yes, we should continue to do this and we should continue to support it. Americans don't give a fuck. Americans can't fucking afford healthcare. Like, why? They don't care about what's happening in Iran.

• 1:04:20Mark Gagnon?

  But they're trying to control speech already. So I put up a clip about the war.

• 1:04:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:04:26Mark Gagnon?

  Instagram is fine, on TikTok it got taken down.

• 1:04:28Speaker 00

  Did you say you were just being silly, or did you try to do that?

• 1:04:31Mark Gagnon?

  I didn't say that. But still, it wasn't even, I don't think anything like inflammatory really was said, just like, disagreeing with the war, like this, let's stop another stupid war, and they took it down immediately on TikTok, and not Instagram.

• 1:04:43Speaker 00

  I heard they're doing that with Epstein's stuff too.

• 1:04:44Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Like, that's, they trying already.

• 1:04:48Speaker 00

  Interesting. Interesting.

• 1:04:50Speaker 02

  It's crazy that they just haven't given any, they haven't lied at all.

• 1:04:54Speaker 00

  Hey, we want Greenland, hey, we want the oil in Venezuela. I wonder if they realize they just can't lie anymore. I wonder if there's just so many people that have a voice right now that even if they try to lie, will be debunked immediately?

• 1:05:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, the media's just too open.

• 1:05:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:07Speaker 02

  It's just all like out there.

• 1:05:08Speaker 07

  And no one trusts the government anymore.

• 1:05:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's true.

• 1:05:11Speaker 07

  There's no like, no one defending it.

• 1:05:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, there is also this like-

• 1:05:15Speaker 02

  If they say they're going for oil, you're almost so skeptical, you're like, oh, they might be going to liberate and bring democracy. Like, it's almost working, it's reverse on it. I'm like, damn, they're really doing it.

• 1:05:24Mark Gagnon?

  I still wanna know, is there any downside if we just say, yo, we're taking Israel?

• 1:05:30Speaker 00

  I mean, yeah.

• 1:05:31Mark Gagnon?

  No, what?

• 1:05:31Speaker 00

  Is there a downside?

• 1:05:32Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, like, who would be against it?

• 1:05:34Speaker 00

  Well, probably Israel.

• 1:05:36Mark Gagnon?

  Why? We, like, if we work as close as we do with them. It's like, you can still be a people, do your thing.

• 1:05:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:44Mark Gagnon?

  You know?

• 1:05:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you familiar at all with them?

• 1:05:49Speaker 00

  Are you familiar at all with them and, like, the history of the region and what explicitly they want? Their thing?

• 1:05:55Mark Gagnon?

  It's still, we'll still call it Israel.

• 1:05:59Speaker 00

  It'll still be a Jewish land. But it's just...

• 1:06:03Mark Gagnon?

  Dude, Al's back in...

• 1:06:04Speaker 00

  Where your daddy?

• 1:06:06Mark Gagnon?

  Like, in Germany, he's like, alright, so we put them all in one place.

• 1:06:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, I get it.

• 1:06:09Mark Gagnon?

  And, uh, no, no, no, we call it Israel.

• 1:06:11Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, I get it.

• 1:06:12Mark Gagnon?

  We put up walls, and they're just kind of all there.

• 1:06:14Speaker 00

  Al, we've tried this, it's called Boca. And, uh, it works really well, people really enjoy it. So they have the American version of it. But there's some that are like, ah, we don't want that. We want our thing over there with, you know, the religious sites and all that kind of stuff.

• 1:06:27Mark Gagnon?

  I think they probably want a right to self-determination. What if we pulled out all of our support? Would they still want that?

• 1:06:33Speaker 00

  Well, I don't know if they would be able to exist.

• 1:06:36Mark Gagnon?

  That's what I'm saying, what if our support comes with, hey, you're us now?

• 1:06:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:06:40Mark Gagnon?

  Then I think they would be on board.

• 1:06:41Speaker 00

  Well, I, I don't know if they would have a choice.

• 1:06:43Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, bored. You don't think so?

• 1:06:45Speaker 07

  That's not, they don't get a choice on that.

• 1:06:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, they would just have to. Well, they also got nukes, so they might not. The thing I would say is like...

• 1:06:52Mark Gagnon?

  Let's do it.

• 1:06:53Speaker 00

  But the thing I would say is like, well, what do they got that we want? This is the thing I don't understand with the Iran stuff for us is like, it's like the Venezuela and Greenland shit was at least transactional with like a, a resource.

• 1:07:04Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:05Speaker 00

  Like, we don't know what a fucking rare earth is, but at least you could be like, hey, we need that for our phones. And then we'd be like, oh, I guess we need it for our phones? Like, you know, like, it seems like there's something important up there.

• 1:07:16Mark Gagnon?

  Rare earth is such a funny...

• 1:07:18Speaker 00

  What even is that?

• 1:07:19Mark Gagnon?

  What is it?

• 1:07:20Speaker 00

  I asked a girl at the show, I was like, do you know what a rare earth is? And she's like, a rare earth mineral? I go, don't just add a fucking another word, and then we're all just as confused.

• 1:07:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, we're all guessing it's...

• 1:07:29Speaker 00

  We don't know fucking clueless.

• 1:07:30Mark Gagnon?

  It makes the batteries, and it makes the chips. And that's what everybody cares about, right?

• 1:07:34Speaker 00

  And we don't know what a chip is. I don't know what Nvidia is. None of us know what Nvidia is. It's the most important company in the world. I don't know, is it in my phone? All they do is they say it's in your phone and you go, I need that motherfucker. Go take it. Take Greenland. Save Taiwan. I just can't fathom we can't move the, whatever. The, the thing that I don't understand about Iran is like, what do we get? Like, let's say we liberate the people, which is incredibly benevolent act, right? To free the people from a horrible regime.

• 1:08:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:02Speaker 00

  That's great. I don't see America, or any country for that matter, having this like benevolent history where we're just out there trying to liberate people.

• 1:08:10Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:08:10Speaker 00

  Right?

• 1:08:11Speaker 02

  No, oh, come on.

• 1:08:12Speaker 00

  Well.

• 1:08:13Speaker 02

  We do it.

• 1:08:13Speaker 00

  We do it.

• 1:08:14Speaker 02

  Afghanistan.

• 1:08:15Speaker 00

  You're right.

• 1:08:16Speaker 02

  Iraq.

• 1:08:16Speaker 00

  We spent what?

• 1:08:17Speaker 02

  Honduras, Guatemala.

• 1:08:19Speaker 00

  Twenty trillion dollars on Iraq to liberate them from the Taliban, just to give them back to the Taliban?

• 1:08:23Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:08:24Speaker 00

  What a fucking mission that was, guys.

• 1:08:25Speaker 02

  Vietnam. Forgot that one.

• 1:08:27Speaker 00

  That's right.

• 1:08:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:29Speaker 00

  What did we do for them? Now they just got more mopeds. That's all, the only thing that changed in Vietnam is more mopeds, okay? So we had this situation with, I just spit right on your forehead.

• 1:08:41Speaker 00

  Dude. And your forehead's so hard, it didn't even absorb it, bounced off. I just did it again.

• 1:08:48Speaker 02

  That's hard. This is like a hazing ritual.

• 1:08:53Speaker 00

  So, I guess what I'm saying, it's like, they haven't even told us what the thing is in the air. Right? Like, do, do we go in and now we have a deal with Iran and we get half of the oil? Do we get to control where the oil goes? Like, they haven't even disclosed what this, what the benefit is to us at all in this situation.

• 1:09:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, I wonder if they just said it outright? If people be like, alright, fuck it. I mean, they kind of have, but if Trump was just straight up like, we need the oil. They, we want to control the oil, we need to control the petrodollar, we don't want China to get it, we're getting rid of these people and we're gonna control the straight up horn moves, then it's like.

• 1:09:26Speaker 00

  Honestly, honestly, I, I think it would be more support than it is now.

• 1:09:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:33Speaker 00

  I don't think it would be unanimous US support. But it would be more support than this like existential nuclear threat, which I just don't think works on Americans anymore.

• 1:09:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:43Mark Gagnon?

  I just don't get why more people aren't fucking outraged.

• 1:09:47Speaker 00

  This is the crazy thing about Americans.

• 1:09:48Mark Gagnon?

  Mr. No More Wars, man.

• 1:09:50Speaker 00

  No, we are. Everybody is. But like, the kind of wild things about Americans is like, there'll be countries like that go death to America.

• 1:09:58Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:59Speaker 00

  Right? Like Iran is like, death to America. And they're actively trying to make a nuclear weapon. And Americans are still like, man, you don't hate us like that. Like, you don't really hate us, bro. Like, you don't really hate. Like, do you think, I don't even think they hate us like that. Like, the dude is like, we're death to America. I'm like, you don't feel that way, bro.

• 1:10:15Speaker 02

  It's how most dudes feel about lesbians. You know what I mean? They're like, I hate men. You're like, come on. You haven't even met me.

• 1:10:20Speaker 00

  The hot ones.

• 1:10:22Speaker 02

  You haven't even met your boy.

• 1:10:25Speaker 00

  The more solid ones, you're like, I believe you believe that. But the hot ones, you're like, come on, who hurt you, man? That is the, that is the American arrogance. Like, we don't think, why would you want to bomb them? What you gonna watch on TV? Like, what are you gonna watch? Like, what is news gonna be without us shaking shit up and making things interesting every day for you? You ever go to another country and they just follow American news?

• 1:10:47Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 1:10:48Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 1:10:48Speaker 00

  We gotta tax them for that shit. Like, we need to get a little of the YouTube rights. If you're just covering us all day on your news?

• 1:10:56Speaker 02

  That is crazy. American news is syndicated.

• 1:10:58Speaker 00

  Everywhere! So I had Australian news companies reaching out for a comment on some American shit. And I'm like, why, what, what is going on? Ask me about Street Fighter. Like, why are we asking about how I feel about Americans in Australia?

• 1:11:10Mark Gagnon?

  Did you do it? Did you do it?

• 1:11:10Speaker 02

  Nah, I didn't do that shit.

• 1:11:12Speaker 00

  I need my, I need my, I need my Petro-dollar, bro.

• 1:11:16Speaker 00

  But like, yeah, I just, I just think it's like, there has to be, I guess Americans, we don't fear it. And that's a good thing. You know, it's been a long time since there's been this major attack on American soil. Like, obviously, we had 9/11. But even 9/11, I think most Americans are like, ah, we might have had some involvement in that.

• 1:11:32Mark Gagnon?

  Well, now.

• 1:11:33Speaker 00

  Now we know. So now we can't even.

• 1:11:35Mark Gagnon?

  That's what people say.

• 1:11:36Speaker 00

  Yes. But now you can't even evoke that.

• 1:11:40Speaker 00

  But you know what I mean, like you can't even evoke that to get us worried about it happening again because we're more worried about our own government doing it.

• 1:11:45Mark Gagnon?

  Yep, yep.

• 1:11:47Speaker 00

  Right?

• 1:11:49Speaker 00

  So I think it's like you gotta be super honest and if the honest strategy is, I mean, look, the honest strategy of what the internet thinks is like, hey, this is really beneficial for Israel. They seem like the biggest beneficiary.

• 1:12:00Mark Gagnon?

  Which it is.

• 1:12:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:12:02Mark Gagnon?

  But I think there's probably other things if I had to guess.

• 1:12:05Speaker 00

  Well, that's, I think what you were saying about like constru- controlling the Strait of Hormuz and controlling oil exports from Iran and being able to, this idea that we're gonna like cripple China by having all the oil, it's like, okay, well then how are we gonna get fucking video games? Like, how are we gonna get jeans? How are we gonna get shirt? Like, we, China and America are so dependent on one another for things that we actually can't cripple them without crippling ourselves.

• 1:12:28Mark Gagnon?

  But it's a game of chicken. That's the trade war. Who's willing to suffer a little bit more?

• 1:12:32Speaker 02

  That's what we're doing now, it's a trade war.

• 1:12:33Speaker 00

  Exactly, but like it allows us to give some leverage. I think that's what happens. Like, if we were to go to like a real hot war with China and we have control of this oil that we let China get freely, all of a sudden we could potentially restrict that and there is like a leverage play there.

• 1:12:48Speaker 02

  I mean, I think China said something earlier this year in a negotiation with Trump, I mean, this is like one article that I read, so I don't know how, what exactly is going on. But they basically were like in a negotiation with some trade thing and they were basically like, we're gonna give you no rare earths. And America was like, what? And so the average person was kind of just like a little like blip in an article.

• 1:13:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:08Speaker 02

  But apparently according to like this one economist, the, that is basically a nuclear option for trade. Like, hey, we're gonna cut you off from rare earths is basically just like, you guys are done and it's war. And it was a massive thing and then they were able to like kind of backpedal and like get to an agreement.

• 1:13:23Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:24Speaker 02

  But the fact that they pulled that to the American, uh, basically like envoys trying to do the trade deal, they were like, oh, so it was like that, that's how you feel. And so that was seen as like an escalated, an escalating move in the negotiation.

• 1:13:36Mark Gagnon?

  That makes sense. And so we gotta control oil.

• 1:13:39Speaker 02

  So all they say it's like, all right, now it's like time to, again, this is, I don't like the conflict. Like, I don't think we need to be in like another war in the Middle East. But I'm just trying, I'm trying to understand the rationale. And there's other allies in the region that kind of want it. You know, Saudi Arabia benefits massively.

• 1:13:57Speaker 00

  Right, because what, the Houthis are sponsored by Iran?

• 1:14:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, they get like to get rid of this terror proxy, they get more control over oil, like they, you know, there's advantages. And it seems like it hurts China.

• 1:14:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:14:11Speaker 02

  And if hurting China helps us, it stops a multi-front war. I don't know.

• 1:14:15Speaker 00

  I wonder if Americans can't say it, because then it looks like a blatant attack on China. So like, like the powers that be, like, the administration can't basically say, okay, like, this is the strategic reason why we're doing this. They can say that why they're doing it for Greenland. They're like, hey, we need these resources because it goes in your fucking phone, or whatever. They can say Venezuela for oil.

• 1:14:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:35Speaker 00

  But they can't be like, hey, we need to control the oil exports here because China gets 20% of their oil from there. And if it ever push comes to shove, we need to be able to like, kind of siphon that shit off.

• 1:14:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:43Speaker 00

  That seems like an actual...

• 1:14:46Speaker 02

  Right, it's like a declaration. And like, you need some plausible deniability.

• 1:14:49Speaker 00

  Yes. So now they're stuck in between this rock and hard place where they cannot give us any reason why it benefits us without pissing off China, or making that declaration. And then the only reason it looks like we're in there is just because Israel needs it.

• 1:15:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:03Speaker 00

  Right? And then naturally, Americans are furious about it. Right? Because we're like, how the fuck does this benefit me? I can't afford to pay for college. I can't buy a home. I can't pay for health insurance. And we're gonna spend billions of dollars on a war in a country I can't even point out on a map? How is this beneficial to me?

• 1:15:19Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah, that's how they feel already.

• 1:15:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, as they should!

• 1:15:23Speaker 02

  You know, the, um, what if the other GCC countries like, get upset at America? Like, yo, why you keep deflecting all these bombs from hitting Israel, but you keep letting us get touched? That's what they're gonna try to do, basically.

• 1:15:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, like.

• 1:15:39Mark Gagnon?

  That's the Iranian strategy, you're saying?

• 1:15:41Speaker 00

  That's what I'm thinking.

• 1:15:41Mark Gagnon?

  Put enough pressure on the region.

• 1:15:43Speaker 02

  Horizontal escalation, you just put all the allies under pressure to where they just say, hey, let's get a ceasefire, let's get a deal going, let's do something.

• 1:15:50Speaker 00

  Because it is kind of fucked up.

• 1:15:51Speaker 02

  Iran to win, they just need to retain power.

• 1:15:53Mark Gagnon?

  Exactly. That's the W. The W isn't maintaining their military might, it's just maintaining power. The regime stays in place.

• 1:15:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:16:00Mark Gagnon?

  And we stated the goal, which was, we want regime change. So if we don't get it, we lost.

• 1:16:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:16:05Mark Gagnon?

  And how would we get it besides boots on the ground? Like, isn't there no way?

• 1:16:09Speaker 00

  I think this is what this is.

• 1:16:10Mark Gagnon?

  What's the?

• 1:16:11Speaker 00

  I think what they're hoping is that, like, the people revolt again.

• 1:16:14Mark Gagnon?

  With no guns?

• 1:16:15Speaker 00

  Well, not even no guns. If I'm the people, it's like, I'm not in the streets while you bomb, and dickhead.

• 1:16:20Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:21Speaker 00

  You know what I mean? And if you say you're gonna not bomb, then you're basically telling the Iranian officials that, hey, coast is gonna be clear for a little while, so they can do whatever they need to do. So it's a very peculiar situation.

• 1:16:32Mark Gagnon?

  I just can't see a scenario where the regime is just like, oh, it's fine, you guys have it. Like, in what scenario would they give it up?

• 1:16:39Speaker 00

  Well, enough of them just keep getting murked where they, where people go, okay, if every time we meet up, all the officials get blown the fuck up. Eventually, officials start going, well, I don't want to be an official anymore, I don't want to get blown the fuck up.

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  Oh, you think that's okay?

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• 1:20:29Speaker 02

  Bro, I don't know if this is true.

• 1:20:30Mark Gagnon?

  Go.

• 1:20:31Speaker 02

  Apparently Trump said this. I just saw it on a tweet, so it might be bullshit, but regardless, it's so funny. They're like, a reporter's like, so Trump, who's gonna take over control of Iran? And Trump's like, I don't know. I guess the position's open. So, uh, look at me, making jobs in Iran too. Like, bro.

• 1:20:49Mark Gagnon?

  Fuck.

• 1:20:50Speaker 02

  I don't know if that's true, but that shit is hilarious.

• 1:20:52Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, I don't like that guy.

• 1:20:55Speaker 00

  Apparently, again, this could be bullshit, but apparently like the person they had in mind for next in command.

• 1:21:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, they murked him.

• 1:21:02Speaker 00

  They also killed.

• 1:21:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. But I think it's like, again, I don't know, there's just one article that I read, but it seems like it's the same thing with Venezuela. It's like, you take out Maduro, who gets, whoever takes over for Maduro? It's not the oppositional person that technically won the election. I forgot her name. It was Maduro's.

• 1:21:18Speaker 00

  Delsi.

• 1:21:19Speaker 02

  The person that took over was Maduro's VP.

• 1:21:21Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:21:21Speaker 02

  Darcy Rodriguez.

• 1:21:22Speaker 00

  Darcy Rodriguez, yeah.

• 1:21:23Speaker 02

  And so she's within the administration, she technically has like the line of succession for Maduro. And so she's legitimate to the people of Venezuela. And so.

• 1:21:31Speaker 00

  And she's willing to be amiable to.

• 1:21:33Speaker 02

  Yeah. And so basically.

• 1:21:34Mark Gagnon?

  That's a little different because it's like, they're just like, hey, let me just do what's best for me and the people. Instead of you have this regime who doesn't really care about the people. And it's just like, yo, this is a war of ideology and we're just going to fight it.

• 1:21:48Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:21:48Mark Gagnon?

  Till we all die.

• 1:21:49Speaker 00

  To the end.

• 1:21:49Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:50Speaker 00

  Which is the problem with going to war in the Middle East, right? Is that they're just willing to take it to the end. Other places, it's like.

• 1:21:56Mark Gagnon?

  Why we, let's not do this.

• 1:21:57Speaker 00

  Cause they don't have reggaeton. They don't have carnival, they don't have fun. Latin American countries enjoy life. They're like, I wanna party, I wanna shake ass, I wanna put a headdress on and I wanna rock in the streets and I wanna make out with people. I enjoy this. Right?

• 1:22:12Speaker 02

  That works in our favor.

• 1:22:13Mark Gagnon?

  You're having fun just.

• 1:22:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. How much fun is it? Like you see us go in there.

• 1:22:18Speaker 02

  So many descriptive, right?

• 1:22:19Speaker 00

  Right, like you're. Like, this is awesome.

• 1:22:20Speaker 02

  He was like Bill Clinton on a stand just now.

• 1:22:24Speaker 00

  No, think about it. Think about it. It's like all the people that come here from the Latin countries are dreaming of the day when the Latin countries go back to prominence. So they can go back there and party and be with their family and enjoy. Like the Cubans aren't going, I'm done with Cuba. They're like, I can't wait till Cuba is back. They have this love and connectivity. Where, you know, I think there's a lot of people that leave their countries and these like places and they're like, I'm good to not be there because that shit fucking sucked.

• 1:22:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:46Mark Gagnon?

  But the Persians here seem like they can't wait to go back.

• 1:22:49Speaker 00

  Because there was a time that they maybe remember where it was more liberated and they could, you know, thrive and.

• 1:22:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, the regime is obviously repressive. Like that much is, is true. So they're like, yeah, we can get rid of them and go back and have free trade and democratize and whether it's the Shah or just another pro-American person, it's better than what we have. So like, I get their perspective, but I don't know. It's a, I think the idea is like, okay, if you can like decapitate is what they call a strategy. Like these decapitation strikes where you take out the head and then you hope that the people revolt and that you're basically banking on enough people revolting. And they also took out like strategic locations where there was a spot that was doing all of like the protest suppression within Iran. So anytime there'd be a protest, they would basically send out this like police force that would squash it.

• 1:23:32Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:32Speaker 02

  And they took out the headquarters of that. So they're basically like, okay, now we can create the environment for this to happen. Now, is it for like humanitarian reasons? Probably not. Like, I don't think America really gives a shit. I think America is just thinking like, how do we get these people to do what we want? And even if that's a civil war, sure. If it's like a rump state, whatever. Is it likely that's gonna happen?

• 1:23:55Mark Gagnon?

  What's a rump state?

• 1:23:56Speaker 02

  Basically just like a, a chaos, like a failed nation without any real leader and like just, you know, a, a, a remnant of whatever it was before.

• 1:24:04Mark Gagnon?

  Got it.

• 1:24:04Speaker 02

  So like, I don't think America really cares, unfortunately.

• 1:24:09Mark Gagnon?

  That sucks, bro.

• 1:24:09Speaker 02

  So that's the thing. And then the concern is like, oh, is the, is the solution gonna be, you know, the cure is gonna be worse than the disease. It's like you take out this guy, is the next thing gonna be worse? Is every bomb you drop also filled with hate for America and radicalization? Creating a nation of people that want to just fight you forever.

• 1:24:25Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:27Mark Gagnon?

  We've seen from history what it's probably gonna end up.

• 1:24:29Speaker 00

  Well, that's what they say. They're like, you know, once you start dropping bombs on a nation, they unify.

• 1:24:34Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:34Speaker 00

  It's very rare that you drop bombs on a nation, they go, "Thank you." Right? Like, yes, they're probably angry at this oppressive leadership, and then all of a sudden you see this like a school of like, uh, girls that gets destroyed. And then you start going, "Whoa, what the fuck is going on here? I thought you were attacking military targets."

• 1:24:52Speaker 02

  Which in fairness, I've heard, I don't know if this has been confirmed, but that was a misfire.

• 1:24:56Speaker 00

  When the war starts.

• 1:24:59Speaker 02

  First casualty is true. Yeah, a hundred percent. But I've just heard people say, again, I have no fucking.

• 1:25:04Speaker 00

  Of course. And they say, "Oh, it wasn't actually us. It was Iran that did it."

• 1:25:09Mark Gagnon?

  They were like a misfire.

• 1:25:10Speaker 02

  That's the move, right?

• 1:25:11Mark Gagnon?

  They showed a picture of like, "Oh, you just happened to get a picture and it's on you."

• 1:25:16Speaker 02

  That's the move. Anytime someone says something, you just say the opposite.

• 1:25:18Speaker 00

  Three of our planes went down. They're like, "We did it."

• 1:25:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, actually it was us that took our own planes down.

• 1:25:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, we took our own planes down. Oopsie daisy.

• 1:25:24Speaker 02

  You see the pilots just posted up? Like, it's insane.

• 1:25:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:25:27Speaker 02

  Multiple pilots just like standing there with like their parachutes, just like, "Fuck."

• 1:25:31Speaker 00

  And guys in their like gowns. Like, they didn't even get military garbed up. Like, I thought they had like a military garb. But the dudes that went out to go get the pilot?

• 1:25:40Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:40Speaker 00

  That ejected?

• 1:25:41Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:42Speaker 00

  They were in the full ghost shit. They were in the Pac-Man ghost shit, like running like, "Are you okay? Thank you for helping us," or whatever, but like, "You gotta give them some pants and some boots."

• 1:25:52Speaker 02

  Right, and they're just regular town folk.

• 1:25:54Speaker 00

  Word?

• 1:25:55Speaker 02

  That's what I thought. I thought it was just regular old people from the village.

• 1:25:57Mark Gagnon?

  Some people go down, you just, "Yeah, yeah."

• 1:25:59Speaker 07

  There's video inside a truck where they're watching a guy come down in the parachute, and they're filming it.

• 1:26:03Speaker 00

  Oh, wow.

• 1:26:04Speaker 07

  Trucking towards where he's gonna fall.

• 1:26:07Speaker 00

  I need to see the video like twenty seconds before where they find it's a woman and they're like, "Holy shit."

• 1:26:16Speaker 00

  They're like, "They let chicks fly these planes? What the fuck is going on?"

• 1:26:19Speaker 02

  Meeting an alien.

• 1:26:21Speaker 02

  They're gonna tell their kids twenty years from now, they'll be like, "No." Like, "No, I saw it. The woman flying."

• 1:26:25Speaker 00

  Joan of Arc was in the plane.

• 1:26:29Speaker 02

  I mean, yeah, they're like pulling up. He's like, "No, I'm good. I'm good."

• 1:26:33Speaker 00

  This is him explaining he's an American, because they don't know at that point.

• 1:26:36Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. That must be scary as fuck.

• 1:26:38Speaker 07

  Do they have a weapon on them?

• 1:26:40Speaker 02

  I think they got like some sticks, like a pole or something.

• 1:26:42Speaker 00

  No, no, no.

• 1:26:43Speaker 07

  They're pilots. Does a pilot fly concealed carry? Like?

• 1:26:50Speaker 00

  I mean, that's.

• 1:26:51Speaker 02

  I don't know. How do you get it through security and shit? That's a double.

• 1:26:59Speaker 02

  I fly out.

• 1:27:00Speaker 00

  I wonder if they do, like they give them a little like nine millimeter and like.

• 1:27:03Speaker 02

  Cause if they do.

• 1:27:05Speaker 07

  Good luck shit.

• 1:27:05Speaker 02

  You gotta think like, you gotta give them something.

• 1:27:08Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:27:08Speaker 02

  I mean, you would think, can we get a Google on that? Fighter pilots do carry personal firearms, but generally only when they're flying over hostile territory.

• 1:27:15Speaker 07

  Bang.

• 1:27:15Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, I guess.

• 1:27:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:27:18Speaker 00

  You don't even want to bring that out. When you.

• 1:27:20Speaker 02

  No, no, I'm not saying.

• 1:27:21Speaker 00

  Hands in air, bro. If you land, hands.

• 1:27:23Speaker 02

  If you got a multimillion dollar fighter jet and you have got to use this thing.

• 1:27:27Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:27:27Speaker 02

  You're in trouble.

• 1:27:29Speaker 00

  Game over. Imagine.

• 1:27:31Speaker 02

  I would pull the second I eject. The second I eject, I got my shit out.

• 1:27:36Speaker 00

  Shooting on the way down.

• 1:27:37Speaker 02

  Better not fuck with me.

• 1:27:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:27:39Speaker 02

  Also ejecting and then having to go like have a convo after must be insane.

• 1:27:42Speaker 07

  Yeah, no.

• 1:27:43Speaker 02

  Cause you know, the, the pressure of these ejectors, like these guys are all three inches shorter than when they started.

• 1:27:48Speaker 00

  It's that many G's.

• 1:27:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like your spine compresses.

• 1:27:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:27:51Speaker 07

  They'll break full, like I think McCain, if someone famously like broke their bones just from the ejection.

• 1:27:57Speaker 00

  Oh, wow.

• 1:27:58Speaker 07

  And the landing.

• 1:27:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:27:59Speaker 07

  Yeah, like the wind force, if you're high enough up and fast enough.

• 1:28:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:28:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's insane. So you eject and then you gotta come down and then like negotiate in Arabic with the homies. You gotta be like, I'm good. Like that's a, it's a heavy day.

• 1:28:12Speaker 00

  How much does that suck to like? You're in a dogfight, you get clipped by a scud missile, you eject just in time before the plane explodes. You parachute down, survive and then get shot in the head the second you land on the ground. Like you, you, what is that movie where you avoid death? What is that called?

• 1:28:34Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 1:28:34Speaker 04

  Final Destination.

• 1:28:35Speaker 00

  You Final Destination like three different ways and then you get down and a guy in fucking sandals and a ghost outfit shoots you right in your fucking head. That's got, I mean, there's gotta be a moment where you're just like, oh Jesus, just take me out. Doesn't that?

• 1:28:49Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:28:49Speaker 02

  That should be humiliating.

• 1:28:50Speaker 07

  Damn.

• 1:28:51Speaker 02

  That should be embarrassing.

• 1:28:52Speaker 07

  Maybe they carry the gun for other reasons.

• 1:28:54Speaker 00

  Ooh. One bullet.

• 1:28:56Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 1:28:57Speaker 02

  Damn. I mean, it's just wild. And then you get shot down by your own people?

• 1:29:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:29:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, that means wild.

• 1:29:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:29:06Speaker 02

  It's not million.

• 1:29:07Speaker 00

  Uh, let's hope this is short. Let's hope this is short and the, uh, no Americans die and the people of Iran don't die and they get liberated.

• 1:29:19Speaker 02

  Oh, who you think runs out of ammunition first? Cause the Asian nigga was like Iran sending fifty thousand dollar drones. But, uh, Israel sending million dollar missiles to.

• 1:29:30Speaker 00

  So this is the, this is what happened with Russia in Afghanistan.

• 1:29:34Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:29:35Speaker 00

  Whereas like, uh, I think America had equipped the Taliban with these anti like helicopter rocket launchers. So they were taking out these like multi million dollar, like military grade helicopters with few thousand dollar rocket launchers that they were just, you know, in a cave and they'd come out of the cave and then boom. And like it just became.

• 1:30:00Speaker 02

  I play Goldeneye.

• 1:30:01Speaker 00

  You remember the game?

• 1:30:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:30:03Speaker 00

  So it's like, it just became economically improbable for Russia to be victorious. Cause they weren't gonna get on the ground and just start going rocket launcher for rocket launcher. And I think that's the scenario that he's displaying right now, which is like a million dollar missile to take out a fifty thousand dollar drone. You know, eventually you kind of run out of those or you run out of money.

• 1:30:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:30:23Speaker 00

  And so how many drones does Iran have? And can they keep creating these drones? And will another country supply them with drones? That's the other thing that's kind of wild.

• 1:30:31Speaker 02

  No, they're saying he, he said that making five hundred a day, they have like eighty thousand or some crazy.

• 1:30:36Speaker 00

  So they gotta take out those drone factories.

• 1:30:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:30:38Speaker 00

  To me, that seems like the most reasonable.

• 1:30:40Speaker 02

  Yeah. And apparently the other thing is like America's anti missile, like ground to air missile defense. We only have a certain amount and we're arming Saudi Arabia, UAE. Like we have, you know, Israel, like all these different, you know, things.

• 1:30:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:30:54Speaker 02

  And we're getting depleted. So the question is like, will we run out before them?

• 1:30:58Speaker 00

  And I feel like we will because Trump tweeted, we have unlimited missiles. Trump only tweets shit like that when shit ain't going well. Like when the economy sucks, he's like, it's the greatest economy that's ever happened in history.

• 1:31:11Speaker 02

  What was his tweet? How many missiles we got? He's like, infinity missiles.

• 1:31:13Speaker 00

  We have infinity missiles.

• 1:31:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's not good.

• 1:31:16Speaker 00

  That's not good at all. That's not good at all. And the reason that's not good is twofold. Because they're not gonna, and this is where shit gets ugly. They're not just gonna be like, alright, we're out of missiles, see you later guys, good try. What they'll probably do is escalate, and that escalation means civilian deaths in Iran.

• 1:31:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, is the escalation trap or whatever? That's what they call it?

• 1:31:39Speaker 00

  So it's like, okay, we're running out of these defensive missiles, we're gonna have to go more offensive, and that means we're gonna have to target places that probably have civilians there. And then that's gonna grow natural resentment and hatred for decades, centuries, for a group of people that wanted liberation. They're like, well, now I'm dying for this liberation at the hands of the people that are trying to liberate me. Fuck them. Maybe the regime was right.

• 1:32:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:32:02Speaker 00

  Maybe we need to unify behind them so that more of us don't get killed.

• 1:32:05Speaker 02

  Fuck.

• 1:32:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's just ridiculous. Yeah.

• 1:32:10Speaker 02

  War.

• 1:32:11Speaker 00

  Trump said, yeah.

• 1:32:12Speaker 02

  What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. Also, you saw people saying this is just to cover up the Epstein files?

• 1:32:20Speaker 00

  That, that seems a little ridiculous. This seems pretty egregious to cover up the Epstein files. You know what I mean? Like, cause it's, one, we're not forgetting about the Epstein files.

• 1:32:30Speaker 02

  But you know the name of this operation? Epic Fury.

• 1:32:34Speaker 00

  E F Epstein Files.

• 1:32:38Speaker 02

  Do the Nile here.

• 1:32:42Speaker 02

  Are you even clocking it up?

• 1:32:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:32:44Speaker 02

  Even clocking it up?

• 1:32:45Speaker 00

  About to gigamax you, ah!

• 1:32:47Speaker 02

  Wait, do you guys think it's just a cover up for the Epstein? But this seems insane.

• 1:32:52Speaker 00

  It can hurt. No, it's one of those things.

• 1:32:54Speaker 02

  Maybe it's convenient. Maybe it moved up like a month?

• 1:32:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:32:58Speaker 02

  Maybe it moved up two weeks or something, you know? But I think this is probably in motion for 30 years.

• 1:33:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, they just found somebody dumb enough to go along with it.

• 1:33:08Mark Gagnon?

  Yup.

• 1:33:08Speaker 00

  Trump was dumb enough to do it. They've been trying to get America to do this forever.

• 1:33:12Mark Gagnon?

  Facts.

• 1:33:12Speaker 00

  And then they found a guy stupid enough to do it and they probably filled his heavens. You're gonna be the liberator, the great hero, the person that brings peace to the world.

• 1:33:19Mark Gagnon?

  You think that's how they convince him to do it? Or do you think they have something on him? I think they have something on him.

• 1:33:24Speaker 00

  How did?

• 1:33:25Speaker 02

  They showed him a newspaper, bro.

• 1:33:26Speaker 00

  How did Mom Donnie convince him to build some units in New York City? Went with two newspapers and he was like, this one you look like a hero and this one is when, who was it? Gerald Ford?

• 1:33:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think so.

• 1:33:35Speaker 00

  Look like an asshole. You wanna be a hero and asshole? And Mom Donnie actually-

• 1:33:38Mark Gagnon?

  He's nice.

• 1:33:39Speaker 00

  No, he's nice. He needs credit for the snow too. He's not getting enough credit for the snow.

• 1:33:43Mark Gagnon?

  Damn.

• 1:33:44Speaker 00

  He got the snow to fuck up out of here and New Yorkers got a nice little paycheck on the way and it actually worked. And people are trying to act like that he didn't deserve credit for that and he does deserve-

• 1:33:53Speaker 02

  He got ice out twice.

• 1:33:54Speaker 00

  Bang!

• 1:33:55Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 1:33:55Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:33:56Mark Gagnon?

  And he got that bad bitch out of jail.

• 1:34:00Mark Gagnon?

  It's like, come on, he's doing the Lord's work, my guy.

• 1:34:03Speaker 00

  No, but he understands something that like, a lot of, I think, Democratic politicians don't have the political will to do. Which is like, he'll go there and take a picture with Trump and he'll talk to him and negotiate with him. And he knows how transactional Trump is.

• 1:34:16Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:17Speaker 00

  And then he'll get something out of it. Where I think most Democrats are in this state where they're like, fuck this guy, look at all these horrible things he's doing. I'm not even gonna talk to him because that could look like I'm trying to like fraternize with the enemy.

• 1:34:27Mark Gagnon?

  But, and this is-

• 1:34:28Speaker 02

  This is a rookie politician working Trump.

• 1:34:31Mark Gagnon?

  But-

• 1:34:31Speaker 02

  Imagine what these fucking leaders are doing everywhere. But this is because he's a, uh, he's not a dumb, like ideological lib.

• 1:34:39Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:34:39Mark Gagnon?

  What do you mean he's a commie, bro?

• 1:34:42Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying. He's a leftist. He has like actual like left, like economic policies. So he's like, like, I don't care. You know what I mean? Like, I don't care what the pronoun is, the word, whatever, like, let's just build shit.

• 1:34:51Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:52Speaker 02

  And like try to lower costs. Like, it's actually, it seems like he's more pragmatic.

• 1:34:55Speaker 00

  How do I help my people?

• 1:34:57Speaker 02

  Whereas all these other people are like, oh, if I'm with this person, then they're gonna think that I'm one of the bad guys. Use bad words and then, and it's like-

• 1:35:04Speaker 00

  So he also has, I would say enough political capital and trust within his base that he could do something like this, where all these other politicians are absolutely terrified that the base will turn against them and they'll be kicked out of office and it's that that is a little that is kind of my theory, but he built up that he built up that trust. He deserves fucking credit for it. And this is a ballsy move, which a lot of Democrats would never fucking do. Keep in mind, like, he's going to meet with the guy who everybody thinks is a pedophile and is covering up other pedophiles.

• 1:35:35Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:36Speaker 00

  Right? Think about that. Like, that is, that's optically why nobody wants to go meet with him, right? Because they're like, now I'm enabling this guy who's covering up the global pedophile ring. Now I'm chumming it up and asking for favors from a guy who's covering a global pedophile ring? Fuck that guy. I'm not talking to him. He's like, we need to build apartments in New York and that's my job and that's what I'm gonna do. And he's the guy in power.

• 1:35:58Mark Gagnon?

  That's fire.

• 1:35:59Speaker 00

  That's a ballsy move.

• 1:36:00Mark Gagnon?

  Shout out to him.

• 1:36:01Speaker 00

  No, for real.

• 1:36:02Mark Gagnon?

  You're doing a thing.

• 1:36:03Speaker 00

  But like, you see why, you see why other politicians won't do it.

• 1:36:06Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. Yeah. That's a fire move.

• 1:36:09Speaker 00

  But you, but you would also see why others might get tons of criticism.

• 1:36:12Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, cuz they pussy.

• 1:36:14Speaker 00

  I agree with you. I, I agree with you. But like, for example, I don't know if an AOC would do that.

• 1:36:21Mark Gagnon?

  We'll see.

• 1:36:23Speaker 07

  It helps that he's the mayor.

• 1:36:24Speaker 00

  Exactly. He's not involved, like, he doesn't have a vote on any of the, like, congressional sayings and what happens in the country. What he has control over is what happens in his city and he can get help for what?

• 1:36:35Speaker 07

  Yeah, it helps a lot. He's mayor. Obviously, like you said, mayors of New York is incredibly important, more important than many other positions.

• 1:36:41Mark Gagnon?

  He's a vice president down there.

• 1:36:43Speaker 07

  He can't be.

• 1:36:44Mark Gagnon?

  No, no.

• 1:36:45Speaker 00

  No, it's the most important.

• 1:36:46Speaker 07

  Oh, sorry, sorry. Yeah, I think it also weirdly does help Trump a little bit that he can't be president.

• 1:36:50Speaker 00

  Oh, huge. Yeah, Trump isn't threatened by him. He doesn't see it as like political jockey.

• 1:36:54Speaker 07

  He's not gonna get my job. You're not gonna, your face ain't gonna be on these walls.

• 1:36:58Mark Gagnon?

  He's like Varys. He can let him be close to the king.

• 1:36:59Speaker 00

  Exactly. Cause he ain't gonna do it. He has no balls. He can't sire.

• 1:37:02Mark Gagnon?

  Exactly.

• 1:37:03Speaker 00

  So, but what's interesting about it is like.

• 1:37:06Speaker 07

  Never seen the show.

• 1:37:07Speaker 00

  Never seen it. I can't believe I, I can't believe I rewarded it.

• 1:37:15Speaker 00

  But yeah, it is interesting. Yeah, that that is. That is interesting because he could also gain political capital just by bagging on Trump.

• 1:37:24Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:25Speaker 00

  Right? Like, and that would get his base riled up, but he probably knows that the best success for him, not only politically, just like as a person in New York City, is if he delivers on his promises.

• 1:37:35Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:35Speaker 00

  And this is a pathway to deliver.

• 1:37:37Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:37Speaker 00

  So it's really, it's a, it's a ballsy move.

• 1:37:39Mark Gagnon?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:37:40Speaker 00

  I think most people wouldn't do it, especially Democrats would not go do that.

• 1:37:44Mark Gagnon?

  Probably not.

• 1:37:45Speaker 00

  Even Republicans now that they're covering up the Epstein shit. I don't think there's, I think there's Republicans are like, I'm not like Thomas Massey's not touching them.

• 1:37:51Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:52Speaker 00

  Cause he's like.

• 1:37:52Mark Gagnon?

  And his approval rating is in the toilet right now. So it's like, yeah, why would you want to stand next to him?

• 1:37:56Speaker 00

  And he knows that he's going to be used for a photo op. He knows Trump is going to be in the pick smiling. You're going to have to be in the pick too. It's interesting. It's a very, yeah.

• 1:38:05Speaker 02

  I feel like it's, the other thing is kind of to the merit point that it seems like his agenda is very clear.

• 1:38:11Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:38:11Speaker 02

  Whereas all these other politicians, like their agendas always get more power.

• 1:38:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:15Speaker 02

  Whereas so far Zeron, which I'm a little skeptical about, I'm like, he probably does want more power.

• 1:38:19Mark Gagnon?

  Hey, relax.

• 1:38:20Speaker 02

  That's my, my black pill cynicism where I'm like.

• 1:38:23Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, they all want more power.

• 1:38:24Mark Gagnon?

  No, no, no.

• 1:38:24Speaker 00

  But he's limited by not being born here.

• 1:38:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you try to be governor, like he'll like work his way.

• 1:38:29Speaker 00

  That's less power.

• 1:38:30Speaker 02

  But he hasn't shown, I mean.

• 1:38:33Speaker 00

  Mayor, mayor is way more power.

• 1:38:35Mark Gagnon?

  Of New York City, it's more, it's more.

• 1:38:37Speaker 02

  But if he's a senator.

• 1:38:37Speaker 00

  What do they do?

• 1:38:39Speaker 02

  You get to fucking, you get a sick house probably.

• 1:38:42Speaker 00

  What has Chuck Schumer done?

• 1:38:43Speaker 02

  Probably.

• 1:38:44Speaker 07

  Kathy Hochul, like.

• 1:38:45Speaker 00

  They don't do anything. The congressman, they just bicker and fight.

• 1:38:48Speaker 02

  He probably got more power though.

• 1:38:50Speaker 00

  He's damn near president number two, man.

• 1:38:52Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 1:38:52Speaker 00

  New York City mayor, that's the most likely power. You could pay your boys 30 bucks an hour to clean snow. Name one congressman that could do that.

• 1:39:01Speaker 07

  Bro, he could go, he can get flights to Turkey. Come on, bro.

• 1:39:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:39:04Speaker 07

  Flights to Turkey.

• 1:39:05Speaker 00

  Upgrade.

• 1:39:06Speaker 07

  Upgrade.

• 1:39:07Speaker 02

  Bro, you saw.

• 1:39:07Speaker 00

  Yo, and Eric Adams didn't even come back with hair.

• 1:39:11Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 1:39:12Speaker 00

  Fuck you going to Turkey?

• 1:39:13Speaker 02

  I feel like it'd be too obvious.

• 1:39:15Speaker 00

  Right?

• 1:39:16Speaker 02

  It'd be way too obvious if you come back with a full head.

• 1:39:18Mark Gagnon?

  That would have fired.

• 1:39:19Speaker 02

  Long, curly.

• 1:39:21Speaker 00

  Nah, that.

• 1:39:21Speaker 07

  He gets a bad rap, man.

• 1:39:24Mark Gagnon?

  I love that.

• 1:39:26Speaker 00

  No, Al is America.

• 1:39:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:39:29Speaker 00

  Once you're no longer in power, we can love you.

• 1:39:32Mark Gagnon?

  Yes.

• 1:39:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:39:33Speaker 02

  I just wait till Trump's out in like three more terms. Al is gonna be like.

• 1:39:38Speaker 00

  He was fine.

• 1:39:39Speaker 02

  He was cool.

• 1:39:40Speaker 00

  I was gonna be rewatching Apprentice like, yeah, we got this guy wrong.

• 1:39:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, this guy's funny.

• 1:39:44Speaker 00

  He was the man. Come on, come on.

• 1:39:46Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, nah, I don't know.

• 1:39:47Speaker 02

  Just wait.

• 1:39:48Mark Gagnon?

  No, I don't know about him.

• 1:39:50Speaker 02

  Al's got amnesia. Which is a good name.

• 1:39:54Speaker 07

  Four.

• 1:39:55Speaker 00

  Don't do it.

• 1:39:55Speaker 02

  Why?

• 1:39:56Speaker 00

  Or something, what?

• 1:39:57Mark Gagnon?

  Both of you.

• 1:39:58Speaker 02

  It's a good name.

• 1:39:58Mark Gagnon?

  Racist.

• 1:39:59Speaker 00

  Don't do it. Don't do it.

• 1:40:01Speaker 02

  How is that racist?

• 1:40:01Mark Gagnon?

  He's like, four, yeah.

• 1:40:03Speaker 02

  You don't think Latinos would name their kid Amnesia?

• 1:40:05Mark Gagnon?

  I don't think so.

• 1:40:06Speaker 00

  Don't do it.

• 1:40:07Speaker 07

  Who do you think would?

• 1:40:08Mark Gagnon?

  There you go, you see, Trump.

• 1:40:10Speaker 07

  I'm asking, you said Latinos won't.

• 1:40:11Mark Gagnon?

  Who do you think?

• 1:40:12Speaker 07

  Amnesia?

• 1:40:13Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:14Speaker 07

  Sounds, uh, it possibly could be an Asian name, it sounds.

• 1:40:17Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:40:18Speaker 00

  It could be an Asian name.

• 1:40:19Speaker 07

  It could be an Asian name.

• 1:40:21Mark Gagnon?

  Never heard that.

• 1:40:21Speaker 02

  Who, who do you think it is? Cause right now you're squashing all of our.

• 1:40:24Speaker 07

  Hey, you, you haven't said anyone.

• 1:40:26Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, definitely a Jew.

• 1:40:27Speaker 00

  You think it's a Jew?

• 1:40:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:28Speaker 00

  Amnesia.

• 1:40:32Speaker 00

  That was my crown.

• 1:40:33Mark Gagnon?

  That was my crown.

• 1:40:37Mark Gagnon?

  Amnesia, yeah.

• 1:40:39Speaker 02

  He made him Italian.

• 1:40:41Mark Gagnon?

  It could be Italian also, hey.

• 1:40:44Speaker 02

  Italian immediate.

• 1:40:46Mark Gagnon?

  Base it, base it.

• 1:40:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:40:49Mark Gagnon?

  You got on there.

• 1:40:50Speaker 00

  You got on there.

• 1:40:51Mark Gagnon?

  You got on there.

• 1:40:52Speaker 02

  I'll give you that.

• 1:40:52Speaker 00

  Stop your insider trading, by the way.

• 1:40:54Speaker 02

  Wait, why?

• 1:40:55Speaker 00

  They coming for Mr. Beast, didn't see this?

• 1:40:57Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 1:40:58Speaker 00

  Or not Mr. Beast, maybe one of his editors or something?

• 1:41:00Mark Gagnon?

  Damn.

• 1:41:01Speaker 00

  But, uh, basically.

• 1:41:03Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, so Mr. Beast, cause he's probably trading for him, but.

• 1:41:06Speaker 00

  Okay, oh wow. So, so Kao Shi fined and suspended Artem Kaptur, a video editor for Mr. Beast for insider trading. Kaptur used confidential information regarding upcoming videos to place profitable bets on Kao Shi's prediction markets. The account was frozen, the case reported to the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, the CFTC.

• 1:41:25Mark Gagnon?

  Wait, but that wasn't Lord of the Rings dude we had in here?

• 1:41:28Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, he would never that look.

• 1:41:30Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, fucking cute elf.

• 1:41:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's not doing that. He would never fucking do that.

• 1:41:34Speaker 02

  Nolan?

• 1:41:34Mark Gagnon?

  Don't let me down, Nolan.

• 1:41:36Speaker 00

  No, no.

• 1:41:36Speaker 02

  Nolan's name was Artem Kaptur?

• 1:41:42Mark Gagnon?

  When are you gonna read? I don't know, white people. Y'all all the same.

• 1:41:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know.

• 1:41:47Mark Gagnon?

  That name's just amnesia.

• 1:41:49Speaker 02

  That's a beautiful name.

• 1:41:50Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:51Speaker 02

  Genuinely a beautiful name.

• 1:41:52Mark Gagnon?

  Nah, but Nolan, don't let me down, bro.

• 1:41:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, you gotta, you can only insider trade on Polymarket.

• 1:41:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:42:00Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:42:01Speaker 00

  No, cuz I, so I looked into this shit and I was like, well, why? Why care you? And apparently, so Kausi will get your social security number. They like actually make sure that you're a human being.

• 1:42:10Mark Gagnon?

  Okay.

• 1:42:10Speaker 00

  Whereas I think the other markets don't do that.

• 1:42:13Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, really?

• 1:42:13Speaker 00

  So there is really no recourse. Like, maybe they have your banking information to like get the thing, but uh...

• 1:42:19Mark Gagnon?

  Cause I remember Polymarket, you couldn't even trade here. Like, you had to use like a VPN or some shit like that.

• 1:42:24Speaker 00

  Really?

• 1:42:24Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know if that got overturned, but when they first came out, you couldn't.

• 1:42:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:42:28Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:28Speaker 00

  But like, I think they gotta prosecute this shit. Like, I think that guy gotta go to jail for anybody to trudge these, trust these markets.

• 1:42:35Mark Gagnon?

  What?

• 1:42:36Speaker 02

  Alright, I see your, I see your point.

• 1:42:37Mark Gagnon?

  What?

• 1:42:38Speaker 00

  You gotta send him to jail.

• 1:42:39Mark Gagnon?

  But I thought that's the point of the markets. It's like, ooh, I got a tip, let's go. I'm up.

• 1:42:45Speaker 00

  That's not it.

• 1:42:49Speaker 00

  That's a big shit. Illegal. That's Martha Stewart. Now you're doing Martha Stewart.

• 1:42:54Mark Gagnon?

  Prediction markets, guys.

• 1:42:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's not a prediction if you know what's gonna happen.

• 1:42:57Mark Gagnon?

  Hey, I'm nice with it.

• 1:43:00Speaker 02

  It's a good prediction.

• 1:43:02Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:43:03Mark Gagnon?

  I'm nice with it, yeah.

• 1:43:05Speaker 02

  It's a strong hunt.

• 1:43:06Speaker 00

  But don't you think that that's the only way people will trust it? If people start going to jail for insider trading?

• 1:43:12Speaker 02

  I don't know even how much people are concerned about trusting it.

• 1:43:15Speaker 00

  Tell me, what do you think?

• 1:43:16Speaker 02

  Like, I feel like people kinda know, like, oh, there's probably some insider trading happening.

• 1:43:22Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:43:22Speaker 02

  And I think that people are kinda like, at least that's how I feel. I'm like, yeah, there's a lot of people guessing and predicting, and then there's a lot of people, there's some people that might have some knowledge.

• 1:43:30Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, I'm looking at it like meme coins. It's like...

• 1:43:33Speaker 00

  Or like the stock market. You're like, okay, some of these people know what the fuck deal is America is gonna make.

• 1:43:38Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, but even more like meme coins. It's like, hey, pump this, we about to get up, and then we out. You know, it's like, people understand the risk.

• 1:43:47Speaker 00

  Going into it.

• 1:43:48Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:49Speaker 02

  But how do you rug pull on like a prediction market or like a prop bet?

• 1:43:51Mark Gagnon?

  Well, not necessarily rug pull, but you will, someone will tell you, hey, this shit is about to happen, so let's all get rich right now.

• 1:43:58Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:43:58Speaker 00

  Well, that's the other thing I don't get, which is like, if you see...

• 1:44:01Mark Gagnon?

  I'm insider trading for y'all, alright? If I ever find out some information.

• 1:44:04Speaker 00

  Well, don't incriminate us.

• 1:44:06Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, we all go in. I don't want to be involved in this fucking debate.

• 1:44:11Speaker 00

  How was insider trading?

• 1:44:12Speaker 07

  What do you mean? Like you find out some information and then what?

• 1:44:15Mark Gagnon?

  I'mma just tell you and then we go and bet on it.

• 1:44:17Speaker 00

  Why do we have to do it?

• 1:44:18Mark Gagnon?

  So I don't go down.

• 1:44:20Speaker 00

  Why would we also go down?

• 1:44:21Mark Gagnon?

  Because you'll fight it.

• 1:44:23Speaker 07

  For us.

• 1:44:26Speaker 00

  That's never happened before.

• 1:44:30Speaker 00

  There's never been a legal battle that I, that we had to fight.

• 1:44:33Mark Gagnon?

  Exactly.

• 1:44:34Speaker 00

  Not related to any insider trading or anything.

• 1:44:36Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:44:37Speaker 00

  Okay, we're not one of those guys, Artem Kaptur, fucking rest in Sweden.

• 1:44:40Speaker 07

  Fuck that guy.

• 1:44:41Speaker 00

  What an idiot. What an idiot to give somebody his social security number, place a bet knowing that he's on the editing team from the thing.

• 1:44:48Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah. What did he bet on? Did it say?

• 1:44:50Speaker 07

  Beast Games.

• 1:44:51Speaker 00

  It's gotta be Beast Games.

• 1:44:52Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, was it?

• 1:44:52Speaker 00

  I mean, that's the only thing that he would have knowledge on, right?

• 1:44:55Speaker 07

  Ooh.

• 1:44:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:44:55Speaker 07

  Do you know why they could get in trouble for this?

• 1:44:57Speaker 00

  Go.

• 1:44:58Speaker 07

  Beast Games is regulated. Okay, all game shows are regulated. Like, there are episodes of, uh, like Wheel of Fortune and shit where they're like spinning it, or like, uh, Who's Line, or not Who's Line, but the one with Drew Carey.

• 1:45:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:45:11Speaker 07

  Uh, where he'll accidentally mess up and give someone the answer or something, and they have to redo the take because they're like, this is all regulated. We can't hint you, we can't lead you to like certain answers.

• 1:45:19Mark Gagnon?

  Oh.

• 1:45:20Speaker 07

  So Beast Games being a show might come with the regulation.

• 1:45:25Speaker 00

  Huh.

• 1:45:26Speaker 07

  Yeah. Cause it, there is real money up for it.

• 1:45:28Mark Gagnon?

  Might be a situation.

• 1:45:29Speaker 00

  There's real money baked within the game, though.

• 1:45:31Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:45:32Speaker 00

  So, yeah, you can't rig it against the other people competing in the game.

• 1:45:35Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:45:37Mark Gagnon?

  How does insider trading with the regulation affect it?

• 1:45:40Speaker 07

  Well, it's the same, like, it's the reason you can't bet on WWE, because it's scripted.

• 1:45:44Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:45:45Speaker 07

  So.

• 1:45:46Mark Gagnon?

  So if he has knowledge who's gonna win, then it's not really fair.

• 1:45:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, but, but you could bet on WWE, right?

• 1:45:54Speaker 07

  Mm-mm. No.

• 1:45:55Speaker 00

  At all?

• 1:45:55Speaker 07

  It's, it is out. I mean, maybe in a poly, in a.

• 1:45:59Speaker 00

  Maybe you could trade on it.

• 1:46:01Speaker 07

  Yeah, maybe. But I know that betting for like WWE and things like that is fully outlawed because there are people who know.

• 1:46:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:46:07Speaker 07

  There are people, there are decision makers. It's not.

• 1:46:09Speaker 00

  I mean, you would be retarded to trade on WWE. You would be absolutely retarded.

• 1:46:14Speaker 02

  Unless you're one of the writers.

• 1:46:16Speaker 07

  It's, there was, there was a thing.

• 1:46:17Speaker 02

  Thing, you're this guy.

• 1:46:19Speaker 00

  But this way, if anybody puts any money on WWE, match it.

• 1:46:23Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:46:24Speaker 00

  Cause that motherfucker knows something.

• 1:46:26Speaker 07

  There's a, there's a thing way back in the day with The Simpsons where they tried to figure out who killed Mr. Burns. I don't know if you remember this, it was like a big thing. There were a bunch of people that attempted to bet on it and got in a lot of trouble because it's a written show.

• 1:46:38Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:46:38Speaker 07

  And there's a writer that knows the actual outcome. So you can't actually bet on that because the outcome is not up to like chance or up to someone else's skill or something.

• 1:46:47Speaker 02

  That's how it is with Beast Games though, because it's like, the show's already done. And then they're releasing.

• 1:46:51Speaker 00

  It's edited and they shy it six months ago.

• 1:46:53Speaker 02

  That it's like, we know who wins and it's coming out in three months. And then people are still betting. So I'm like.

• 1:46:59Speaker 07

  Hmm.

• 1:47:00Speaker 02

  Yeah. I don't know what it all means, you know?

• 1:47:02Speaker 07

  I don't know how it all works.

• 1:47:03Speaker 02

  I'm just floating around on this rock.

• 1:47:04Speaker 07

  You are floating around.

• 1:47:05Mark Gagnon?

  What do you think his penalty should be?

• 1:47:06Speaker 00

  Jail.

• 1:47:07Speaker 02

  Death penalty.

• 1:47:08Speaker 00

  Death.

• 1:47:09Mark Gagnon?

  Whoa.

• 1:47:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, public hanging.

• 1:47:10Speaker 00

  Hundred percent.

• 1:47:11Speaker 02

  I think it's the only.

• 1:47:12Speaker 00

  Also, he thought, also.

• 1:47:14Mark Gagnon?

  He only made 20 bands.

• 1:47:16Speaker 02

  How old was he?

• 1:47:17Speaker 00

  Was it 20?

• 1:47:19Speaker 02

  Oh no, he's fine, sorry.

• 1:47:20Speaker 07

  He made 4,000.

• 1:47:20Speaker 00

  No, this is the thing that's hilarious about it.

• 1:47:22Mark Gagnon?

  He only made 4,000?

• 1:47:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, but this is what I thought was interesting is like, he tried to do like a small bet.

• 1:47:27Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:28Speaker 00

  So nobody would know. And they still know.

• 1:47:30Mark Gagnon?

  Wow.

• 1:47:31Speaker 00

  You know, like they're aware of the, I guess, connectivity that you have to certain things and they're looking into all the bad. I don't know how exactly the system works, but it'd be obvious if he put like a million dollar bet.

• 1:47:42Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:43Speaker 00

  Which if you're gonna go to jail, put the most money, don't go to jail for $4,000. You can steal that from Mr. Beast. There's gonna be $4,000 just on the floor of Beast Games, right?

• 1:47:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, I couldn't work on that show.

• 1:47:54Mark Gagnon?

  With all these pockets I have. So I'm coming home caked up.

• 1:47:58Speaker 00

  Hundred percent. Have you guys watched any of the show?

• 1:48:02Speaker 02

  I've watched the whole thing.

• 1:48:03Speaker 00

  You watched the whole Beast Game?

• 1:48:04Speaker 02

  Loved it.

• 1:48:04Speaker 00

  No way.

• 1:48:06Speaker 02

  I'm like, I was embarrassed because like it is.

• 1:48:09Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, I thought you were joking just now. You don't watch, you don't watch certain TV.

• 1:48:15Speaker 02

  Bro, you gotta understand, Beast Games, Traders, these things expose who we are as humans.

• 1:48:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're just watching the human condition.

• 1:48:21Speaker 02

  It gives, it, it shows you what happens when people are as desperate as possible trying to get money. Okay, that is ultimately who we are at our core. And it's just really good.

• 1:48:29Speaker 00

  It reminds you why you should be Catholic, right?

• 1:48:31Speaker 02

  Exactly, yes. It's why we need order. We need a divine hierarchy.

• 1:48:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, something to live up to because who we really are are pieces of shit.

• 1:48:38Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:48:39Speaker 00

  Makes you reckon with your humanity.

• 1:48:41Speaker 02

  That's what it's all about.

• 1:48:41Speaker 00

  It's kind of diabolical, like, I gotta, we gotta talk to Jimmy about that, like, what is it that you like exposing?

• 1:48:48Speaker 02

  It's a lot, to be honest with you. I need to ask him because it is a lot. It's like, you're, it's just such a large amount of money.

• 1:48:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:48:56Speaker 02

  That it's truly, you're seeing people like deal, like having nervous breakdowns. Like a lot of these reality shows, like, hundred grand.

• 1:49:03Speaker 00

  Give a scenario, because I think people who haven't watched it are thinking it's just like one of his YouTube videos.

• 1:49:07Speaker 02

  The grand prize is five million US dollars.

• 1:49:10Speaker 00

  Not the amount of money, but like, give the psychological warfare, how he pits them against each other.

• 1:49:15Speaker 02

  Well, there's.

• 1:49:15Speaker 00

  Cause it's different than his YouTube videos, which are like, stay in a car for a week and then you make.

• 1:49:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, so like one of the games where like.

• 1:49:21Mark Gagnon?

  I thought it's just a bunch of those.

• 1:49:22Speaker 00

  No, no.

• 1:49:23Speaker 02

  Some of the games are like intentionally dumb. Some of them are like really high level and like sophisticated in terms of like strategy. And then there's like some in the middle. So like one of the games they do is, alright, everyone break into three groups. There's like a hundred people, everyone break into three groups. All three of you are gonna go into different rooms. And so it's three people in a room, three people in a room, three people in a room. And he says, alright, you guys are gonna stay in this room until one of you voluntarily puts a handcuff around your wrist and chooses to be out. And so now the three of you thought you were going in as like friends, like, oh, it's gonna be our team. And now you have to get one of the other people out. And then they basically have to figure out how do we eliminate someone?

• 1:50:03Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, you kill the guy and then put the thing around his wrist.

• 1:50:06Speaker 02

  Okay, no, well, you can't kill them.

• 1:50:08Mark Gagnon?

  It's not Hunger Games, it's basically Hunger Games.

• 1:50:10Speaker 02

  But it is also a television show. So it's like, they're basically trying to decide, okay.

• 1:50:15Mark Gagnon?

  Knock him out, you don't gotta kill him.

• 1:50:16Speaker 02

  Like if we're, if we're doing this, us three, how do, how do we decide who goes out?

• 1:50:19Mark Gagnon?

  Knocking you both out and just taking all your money.

• 1:50:21Speaker 00

  But, but leaving, leaving the room, leaving the room means you're out of the game, right?

• 1:50:26Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, light work.

• 1:50:27Speaker 02

  No, no, leaving the room means that you win, handcuffing yourself means you're out of the game.

• 1:50:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, so somebody has to sacrifice themselves for the group.

• 1:50:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:50:33Speaker 00

  So what we would probably do is outside of violence, we'd probably be like, whatever I win, I will promise you 20% of, and then you get to negotiate, I want 75% of.

• 1:50:44Speaker 02

  Or I would say, actually, let's just do a random gamble. Like, let's just all draw cards, whoever's the highest card, you know, loses.

• 1:50:53Speaker 00

  But what if I try to rig that so I make sure that I draw the highest card?

• 1:50:58Speaker 02

  Which happens where someone in the season sets up a game and rigs the game and eliminates someone. They're like, well, I lost, not knowing this person.

• 1:51:05Mark Gagnon?

  The oldest form of sport is combat, guys.

• 1:51:09Speaker 00

  But isn't it like, I don't know.

• 1:51:11Mark Gagnon?

  That's not, look that up.

• 1:51:13Speaker 00

  I'm gonna.

• 1:51:13Mark Gagnon?

  Look it up.

• 1:51:14Speaker 00

  Outside of violence, Al.

• 1:51:15Mark Gagnon?

  Wouldn't that be the best way to solve that?

• 1:51:17Speaker 00

  Sure, but we can't do it on TV.

• 1:51:19Mark Gagnon?

  And whoever taps out first, boom, I got that.

• 1:51:22Speaker 02

  Okay, but there's three people, so it's a death match between three people?

• 1:51:25Mark Gagnon?

  No, we don't have to kill each other, we could just wrestle.

• 1:51:28Speaker 02

  Three people wrestle?

• 1:51:29Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:29Speaker 02

  And who wins?

• 1:51:30Mark Gagnon?

  Whoever taps out first.

• 1:51:32Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:51:32Mark Gagnon?

  Yeah, there you go.

• 1:51:33Speaker 00

  Okay, now will you indulge the nonviolent options? Just because these are the rules of the game?

• 1:51:37Mark Gagnon?

  Boring, bro.

• 1:51:38Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:51:39Mark Gagnon?

  You know.

• 1:51:41Speaker 00

  But it's like, to me.

• 1:51:42Speaker 02

  Al's a bad guy.

• 1:51:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:51:44Speaker 02

  He's like, violence, yes, I'm gonna steal money from that show, yes. And then you're like, I don't do crime, come on, Al.

• 1:51:51Mark Gagnon?

  That's a white collar.

• 1:51:54Mark Gagnon?

  No one's getting hurt.

• 1:51:55Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:51:55Mark Gagnon?

  If I steal money from these games, nobody's getting hurt.

• 1:51:57Speaker 02

  Fair, decent point, decent point.

• 1:51:59Speaker 00

  But if you kill the two contestants that are in the room with you?

• 1:52:02Mark Gagnon?

  I didn't say kill, tap out.

• 1:52:03Speaker 00

  Got it, yeah, yeah.

• 1:52:03Mark Gagnon?

  That's it.

• 1:52:04Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:52:05Mark Gagnon?

  You wrestle with David on a snow day.

• 1:52:08Speaker 00

  Explain it to me, cause he's not gonna, he can't get his hand.

• 1:52:10Speaker 02

  We're gonna team up and we're just gonna get you out.

• 1:52:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:52:13Speaker 02

  Because we know how aggressive you are, we're like, yeah, we should get out the most aggressive.

• 1:52:15Mark Gagnon?

  Racial crime.

• 1:52:16Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:52:17Mark Gagnon?

  Hate crime, hate crime.

• 1:52:19Speaker 02

  One of the games they do at the very end.

• 1:52:20Mark Gagnon?

  Who would be most used to wearing handcuffs?

• 1:52:23Speaker 00

  What if we approached it in that way?

• 1:52:25Mark Gagnon?

  I don't know, you got to do your bedroom.

• 1:52:30Speaker 02

  So like the very last game they play is basically a giant rotating thing with a bunch of briefcases. There's a $5 million check. They have to put the check in the briefcase. One person is placing it, the other person is facing away with a blindfold. And then the person spins around and then they have to pick a briefcase to open. They can ask any number of questions to the person on the other side that placed the thing in the briefcase. So now you're basically trying to cold read them being like, what's your name? Where are you from? What year is it? Is it in this briefcase? And try to see if there's a subtle facial twitch to figure out which briefcase it's in. And then every time you get it wrong, they remove the briefcase and the game continues. Until one person selects the correct briefcase. And there's $5 million on the line.

• 1:53:11Speaker 00

  But here's the other thing, it's like, they'll all be on a line with different like squares. And that's your team, right? Everybody on this line. And then he'll be like, hey, if anybody wants to leave their team, you get $100,000 right now. And the team is all going, hey, we're all connected, we're, if we do this, we move on, we can win millions of dollars. So let's just stay locked in. And there's always somebody on the team that goes, fuck y'all.

• 1:53:34Speaker 02

  Me.

• 1:53:34Speaker 00

  I'm taking $100,000.

• 1:53:35Speaker 02

  And then that whole team is out.

• 1:53:37Speaker 00

  Gets eliminated. And that's what this show kind of points at, which is like the darkest part of humanity. Everybody has a price.

• 1:53:43Speaker 02

  I just don't see it as that dark because it's something they voluntarily decide to do.

• 1:53:48Speaker 00

  It's the safest version of darkness, right? It's like, this is not people starving, this is not people trying to provide for their families. It's like, it actually, in a way exposes our humanity in a, even worse. Because it's like, you would understand if somebody jumped off the line so they could provide for their family. But if they did it just to make money and then fuck over everybody else when they didn't need to provide for their family? You're like, oh wow.

• 1:54:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:54:16Speaker 00

  People would do anything for money.

• 1:54:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, I do, I do get it. But I can sit with it just because it's like a voluntary, so that's why it doesn't strike me as being like dirty.

• 1:54:26Speaker 00

  Exactly, yeah.

• 1:54:27Speaker 02

  No, it's not objectively like immoral. But it does, it shows something about the human condition that's like, oh yeah, we will do some, everyone has a price. It's basically that tagline. Where like you think like, oh, I'm incorruptible, like all these people will vote for me, they put their trust in me and I'll forego any amount of money. And then Mr. Beast is like, what about a million bucks? And they're like, alright, yeah, I'll just take, I'll screw over all these people.

• 1:54:49Mark Gagnon?

  No, I wouldn't. I can't be bought.

• 1:54:52Speaker 00

  Can't be bought?

• 1:54:53Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 1:54:53Speaker 07

  Can't be bought.

• 1:54:54Mark Gagnon?

  Can't be bought.

• 1:54:55Speaker 00

  Good to know.

• 1:54:55Mark Gagnon?

  I don't got a price.

• 1:54:56Speaker 00

  I ass.

• 1:54:58Mark Gagnon?

  Can't be bought.

• 1:54:59Speaker 00

  Can't be bought.

• 1:55:00Mark Gagnon?

  Come on, man.

• 1:55:00Speaker 07

  Al will wear any brand that sends him shit if it's fire. Does not matter where.

• 1:55:05Mark Gagnon?

  If it's fire, that's not me.

• 1:55:07Speaker 07

  Does not matter where it's from, what.

• 1:55:08Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 1:55:09Speaker 00

  There was a MAGA hat, New York Yankee collab.

• 1:55:12Speaker 07

  I think you would, you would do the MAGA hat Yankee.

• 1:55:14Mark Gagnon?

  No, I wouldn't.

• 1:55:15Speaker 00

  You got it.

• 1:55:16Mark Gagnon?

  Guys, I have.

• 1:55:16Speaker 07

  Gas. A hundred thousand to put on the MAGA hat.

• 1:55:20Mark Gagnon?

  No.

• 1:55:21Speaker 07

  Five hundred thousand to put on the MAGA hat.

• 1:55:23Mark Gagnon?

  I'm telling you, I don't have a price. Keep going.

• 1:55:30Speaker 07

  We just started going funny. I mean.

• 1:55:32Mark Gagnon?

  Oh, now we talking.

• 1:55:36Mark Gagnon?

  Talking real money now.

• 1:55:38Speaker 00

  Oh, also, our, uh.

• 1:55:42Speaker 07

  Al's a prince.

• 1:55:43Mark Gagnon?

  I'm going up.

• 1:55:45Speaker 00

  That was bribable motherfucker at the world.

• 1:55:46Speaker 07

  Slowly takes off his beanie.

• 1:55:50Speaker 00

  One of our good pals from Patreon.

• 1:55:52Speaker 07

  Danny.

• 1:55:52Speaker 00

  Yo, we gotta shout out Danny, man. Heart and liver. He'd been on the list.

• 1:55:58Speaker 07

  Can you explain who this is for the people that are not Patreons?

• 1:56:00Speaker 00

  Danny is, uh, who did you say that he was?

• 1:56:03Speaker 07

  Danny's our patron from Detroit.

• 1:56:05Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 1:56:06Speaker 07

  T. Grizzly.

• 1:56:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Agent T. Grizzly.

• 1:56:09Mark Gagnon?

  D. Grizzly, we like to call him.

• 1:56:10Speaker 00

  D. Grizzly, Detroit's own Danny, patron, legend. Needed a heart transplant and a liver transplant in the hospital. Still calling in.

• 1:56:24Speaker 07

  Still sending Patreon questions.

• 1:56:25Speaker 00

  Still sending Patreon questions and, uh.

• 1:56:29Mark Gagnon?

  You gotta fly.

• 1:56:29Speaker 00

  There was a moment where he was about to get a heart and then things didn't work out. He was at the top of the list.

• 1:56:35Speaker 07

  That has to fuck with your head so bad.

• 1:56:36Speaker 00

  Oh, my God. Yeah. And, uh, but we just found out, we just got confirmation. He did get a heart transplant and a liver transplant.

• 1:56:44Speaker 07

  All in one.

• 1:56:44Speaker 00

  And he is recovering and he is well. So we just want to wish Danny a healthy recovery. We love you, my dog. I know he hasn't, I think he hasn't been able to use his voice for like six days. So we don't know if we're gonna talk to him this week.

• 1:56:57Speaker 07

  He's intubated for a long time and can't really like talk just yet.

• 1:56:59Speaker 00

  But you gotta text something to us, man. We need to know what you're doing, what's going on.

• 1:57:02Speaker 07

  He invited me when he's out to go to Detroit to go to a strip club that has lamb chops, so.

• 1:57:07Speaker 00

  Oh, we gotta do that.

• 1:57:08Speaker 07

  That's sort of the heads.

• 1:57:09Mark Gagnon?

  First day out. That's his first day out, bro.

• 1:57:11Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:57:12Mark Gagnon?

  You guys really prayed on his downfall and now he's back.

• 1:57:14Speaker 00

  Use that new heart, bro.

• 1:57:16Mark Gagnon?

  If he got the heart from a woman, is he part trans?

• 1:57:18Speaker 00

  Oh, let him live, bro. Yo, let my man live, bro. And let him live.

• 1:57:24Mark Gagnon?

  That's how he tunes in because he loves the fun. He loves the silly.

• 1:57:28Speaker 02

  That's an interesting question.

• 1:57:29Mark Gagnon?

  That was a blunt.

• 1:57:30Speaker 00

  That was a blunt.

• 1:57:33Speaker 02

  If he gets a black dude's heart, can he say it?

• 1:57:36Mark Gagnon?

  You know what? No.

• 1:57:41Speaker 00

  Guess you're not trans, Eddie. We confirmed it. You are not trans at all. Anyway, we love you, dog, and we are stoked for you, man. And, uh, yeah, can't wait to chop it up with you. Anyway, we love you guys, man. We appreciate you. We're gonna go to Patreon right now. Patreon.com/flagrant.

• 1:57:57Mark Gagnon?

  Mm.

• 1:57:57Speaker 00

  Peace.

• 1:57:58Mark Gagnon?

  It gets crazy over there.

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