We Skipped the Pixel Event

This week, it's all about the Google Pixel 11. First, Marques, Andrew, and David talk about the Made by Google event itself before getting into the new HiLight glow feature. Then it's all about the new Pixel 11 phones. They wrap it up talking about the new Pixel Watch 5 earbuds and the Google Pixel Tag. Of course, we wrap it all up with trivia. Enjoy! Links: 9to5Google - Google Assistant shutting down MKBHD - Pixel 11 Impressions video This episode brought to you by: Framer: https://www.framer.com/waveform Quince: https://www.quince.com/waveform Glaze: https://www.glaze.app/waveform Follow us on socials: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Waveform TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Intro/Outro music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:39Speaker 01

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• 1:02Speaker 02

  When you hear that this new phone in 2026 has a custom RGB notification light, I wouldn't blame you if your first thought was, oh, great. When I get a spam call, it'll go red. When I get an email, it'll go green. When I get a Zelle, it'll go blue. When I get a Venmo, it'll go purple. And they have, you have all these ideas about things you'll do with different apps. None of those things are possible as of right now.

• 1:25Andrew Manganelli?

  None of, yeah.

• 1:26Speaker 02

  Just.

• 1:27David Imel?

  We don't have the technology.

• 1:28Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, 2017 note eight. It was like yellow Snapchat, blue Twitter, green messages.

• 1:34David Imel?

  The minimal phone does this.

• 1:37Speaker 02

  Oh, wait, really, does it?

• 1:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, what is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts, I'm Marquez.

• 1:48Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm Andrew.

• 1:49David Imel?

  I'm David.

• 1:50Speaker 02

  And this is a jump scare if you're not on the audio only version, because we are definitely in a different place. We are in a very different place. We skipped the Pixel event. And we're in Spain.

• 2:03Andrew Manganelli?

  For a good reason.

• 2:04David Imel?

  For a good delivery.

• 2:05Speaker 02

  Maybe not the reason you expect. You'll find out very, oh, we'll probably talk about it, but you'll find out very soon.

• 2:09Andrew Manganelli?

  We should just say, you posted it on your story.

• 2:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, we're in Spain because we wanted to go watch the total solar eclipse that came through here as of the day of recording yesterday. Not only did we watch it, we recorded a podcast episode right in front of it. And it turned out pretty incredible. I'm very excited for you guys to see it.

• 2:29Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 2:29Speaker 02

  It is why you will see that very soon in not the same location, but the same country, anyway.

• 2:34Andrew Manganelli?

  So you subscribe.

• 2:35Speaker 02

  So, yeah, definitely. If you haven't gotten subscribed, this is a great time to get subscribed, because that will be showing up in your subbox very soon. But we still got to talk about the Google stuff. We still do.

• 2:45Andrew Manganelli?

  We still care about it.

• 2:46Speaker 02

  On the tech event of the week. But first, did they even test this?

• 2:53Andrew Manganelli?

  I have one that.

• 2:54Speaker 02

  Speaking of Google stuff.

• 2:55Andrew Manganelli?

  Speaking of Google stuff, this is extremely relevant.

• 2:57Speaker 02

  I'm ready.

• 2:58Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, so I've had this written down for a while, but this actually, timing wise, works perfectly. So my, did they even test this, is that my Android Auto has switched to Gemini, which at first I was like, fine, whatever. It's just a different voice. But lately, it has been.

• 3:17Speaker 02

  Famously, just a different voice.

• 3:18Andrew Manganelli?

  Just a different voice. That's it, yeah, different voice, different name. It's been messing up left and right for me. And I think it's partially because of that I'm speaking to it like the assistant. I'm not like Gemini. So when I first got it, I was like, I don't like this. I don't like change. But I gave it a shot and it did some pretty impressive things. Like, I mostly use Android Auto

• 3:44Andrew Manganelli?

  for when I have an idea of something that I need to do in the car and I can add it to my task app. You guys all?

• 3:49Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 3:49Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm still a task app user.

• 3:51Speaker 02

  Oh, you guys.

• 3:51Andrew Manganelli?

  Google Task, hard and probably the most I add to it is like in my car, because I'm like, I have to do this thing today. I have to do this thing when I get home. And the other day I realized, like, I need to start my snow blower once a month, just to make sure it continues to run for winter. And I said to Gemini, hey, can you set a reoccurring task for the last Saturday of every month to tell me to start my snow blower? Done. I was like, whoa, Gemini rules.

• 4:15Speaker 02

  In your car?

• 4:16Andrew Manganelli?

  In my car. Lately.

• 4:18Speaker 02

  I've never done anything that complicated it for my car.

• 4:20Andrew Manganelli?

  So lately,

• 4:23Andrew Manganelli?

  it can't get anything right. I wrote down, I went back into history, because that's a fun thing with Gemini. And as soon as you can see your history, and I wrote down a couple of the things I asked it to do. So in the old speak, what you would do is you'd say, hey, G.

• 4:35Speaker 02

  The old speak?

• 4:35Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, remind me. And it'd say, what would you like me to remind you of? And then you say the next thing. So I said, hey, remind me. I said, what would you like? I said, find ice cream cake for Claire. And then it said, I can't find anything right now. Erred out.

• 4:50David Imel?

  Confused.

• 4:50Andrew Manganelli?

  It got confused. Then the next one, I said, remind me, what would you like to be reminded of? I said, message Nathan about podcast outlines. Said, I don't find, I don't see a Nathan in your contacts list.

• 5:03Andrew Manganelli?

  And then I did.

• 5:03Speaker 02

  So it was taking, okay.

• 5:05Andrew Manganelli?

  And then I did another one. I said, set my disc golf roster. This is something I do for a weekly fantasy league I'm in. And it just erred out. It didn't do anything. So my.

• 5:14David Imel?

  You do know a Nathan.

• 5:15Andrew Manganelli?

  I do know a Nathan. I just don't have them on text. But so what I think is happening is with the old speak, if the first word of the task is an actionable word, it's forgetting the context of the conversation that we're having and just trying to then do the action.

• 5:33Speaker 02

  Right. Did you, have you tried it all as one?

• 5:36Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, you want to.

• 5:36Speaker 02

  Instead of two.

• 5:37Andrew Manganelli?

  Haven't, but I'm pretty sure the new thing should be able to do what the old thing should have done.

• 5:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:43Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 5:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, I guess it's, the new one's supposed to be like, I mean, they're all supposed to be this, but they're supposed to be like natural language. You just talk to it like a person. So instead of the old speak, as you say, first let me cue up the reminder thing.

• 5:55Andrew Manganelli?

  Yes.

• 5:55Speaker 02

  And then let me give it the reminder. You gotta talk to it like a grandma who doesn't know that that's the old speak. And you just go, hey, send me a reminder to text Nathan and blah, blah, blah. And then maybe it'll work better.

• 6:05Andrew Manganelli?

  So I've thought of that and I agree. But also, the other thing new Gemini is supposed to do is understand context of conversations better. And when the conversation is, you ask me what you want me to remind you of and I say the thing. If, if you were like, Andrew, can you, after work, I really need you to remind me something. I was like, cool, what do you need me to remind me of? And you're like, go to ultimate practice. And then I said, where's, yeah, where's, I said, like, how would you like to get that? Like, I completely forgot that you just asked me to remind you of it. And then I'm just like talking about ultimate. If that's not natural anymore. And especially when like the whole thing is like context.

• 6:48Andrew Manganelli?

  It's supposed to remember full conversations and we're not even.

• 6:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:52Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, we're not even stopping the, the conversation in there. I'm answering it.

• 6:56Speaker 02

  That's totally valid. You know what this reminds me of, though?

• 6:59Andrew Manganelli?

  What's that?

• 6:59Speaker 02

  In the Google presentation, because we've seen this before with some demos, but the Rambler thing.

• 7:04Andrew Manganelli?

  Yes.

• 7:04Speaker 02

  Where you will be talking to it and it's supposed to do speech to text. And I thought about this. It's, there are several things that you can do that are purely natural language. Where you'd be like, hey, I just wanted to say, thanks for coming. I mean, it was cool to have you there. And you start talking and then deleting things and then saying more things. And it realizes you didn't want to say it and then like takes it back and then adds a new thing.

• 7:27Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 7:27Speaker 02

  Because of the way you're talking to it. And that's really cool. But I always wondered, what if you wanted to, what if you wanted it to actually say?

• 7:34David Imel?

  Yes.

• 7:35Speaker 02

  The delete thing part?

• 7:37David Imel?

  I had that problem already.

• 7:38Andrew Manganelli?

  Really?

• 7:39Speaker 02

  I think that's what's happening to you in like a different way, where it's, it's supposed to hear, set a reminder, okay. And then, oh, this guy just realized he doesn't want to set a reminder. He actually wants to message someone. Instead of it's like one big command. So it feels like that's what's happening, I guess.

• 7:57Andrew Manganelli?

  In a funny but impressive way, the one time I just like snapped, I think it was the like, it was like, what would you like to be reminded of? I said, send Nathan podcast outlines. It said, I don't have a Nathan in there. Would you like me to do, or would you like me to text something else? And I said, no, I want you to set the reminder like I asked you in the first place. And it said, set a reminder for, and then it did it perfectly.

• 8:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:20Andrew Manganelli?

  Which is hilarious, but apparently you just have to get angry.

• 8:22David Imel?

  This is like, imagine if you could no longer Google things with SEO speak and you had to only talk to things with natural language, which is like, using Google, when you know how to Google is way faster than talking to an LLM.

• 8:34Speaker 02

  Hundred percent.

• 8:35David Imel?

  Because you have to type out everything.

• 8:37Speaker 02

  And then wait for it.

• 8:37David Imel?

  Yeah. And if you can just use keywords with like six keywords, it's so easy for me to find stuff. I just, I just use the main big words and then it finds it automatically. But if you have to type out everything, it's like, that's so much less efficient.

• 8:50Andrew Manganelli?

  That's so funny to think about, though, that, so we, we learned, Google comes, we learn SEO speak.

• 8:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:57Andrew Manganelli?

  Natural language comes with Gemini, but when that takes over, are we all gonna be like, this would be so much faster if we could just speak.

• 9:05David Imel?

  Have SEO.

• 9:06Andrew Manganelli?

  And then we redeveloped SEO speak into LLM.

• 9:10David Imel?

  Yeah, SEO speak is just keywords, right?

• 9:12Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 9:12David Imel?

  And we, if you use keywords, you are dropping all the irrelevant stuff.

• 9:17Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 9:17David Imel?

  But now we have to talk to it like naturally.

• 9:19Speaker 02

  I would like to find and.

• 9:21David Imel?

  Yeah, I wish you would also have. Now, I understand that for most people that never learned SEO speak, you know.

• 9:27Speaker 02

  Under a certain age, people are like, I don't know, I'll just ask it and it'll tell me.

• 9:30David Imel?

  Exactly. Like, I get that and I totally understand. And even with the Rambler stuff, because, oh my God, I've, I've had older relatives like try to talk to these like home assistants and stuff. And they just, they're like, hey, gee, um, could you, uh, turn my lights on maybe, I guess? Like maybe tomorrow at, at three. And if that, if that works, that's amazing, right? That's incredible. But, but honestly, like to your point, Mark, as about the Rambler thing, like I have, I've tested this, um, on a, on a Pixel. And when I'm trying to text somebody like this kind of more complex thing, it takes out like all of the, the flair of your, of your sort of conversational tone.

• 10:13Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 10:14David Imel?

  Sometimes you wanna use like a very specific kind of like lingo and it makes it a lot more proper. That you don't always wanna do.

• 10:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was not an issue, but that was something I found, which is, and I've been thinking about this a lot, that like the humanity of, this is so randomly deep. The humanity is our imperfections, our inefficiencies.

• 10:32David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 10:32Andrew Manganelli?

  The personality.

• 10:33Speaker 02

  They kept using, they kept using the example for Rambler as like texting people. I actually don't think that's ever what I'd use it for, cause it doesn't, it removes all of the me from the text.

• 10:42David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 10:42Speaker 02

  I would use it for note taking. I would use it for, like, a really, really long reminder that I wanna set for myself, where it removes the ums and ahs and it's very efficient.

• 10:51David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 10:51Speaker 02

  But for texting, which is what they kept using as a demo, it's so like robotic.

• 10:55David Imel?

  Yeah, proper.

• 10:57Speaker 02

  Perfect. And that's not what I want necessarily from text.

• 11:00David Imel?

  Totally, totally. I did use it to say, what up my G, and it did keep that.

• 11:05Andrew Manganelli?

  It did?

• 11:06David Imel?

  Okay, it did keep that. So I was happy.

• 11:07Andrew Manganelli?

  Cause that's very.

• 11:09David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 11:11Andrew Manganelli?

  I do think like for texting, the times when I would be using speech to text is when I'm like on the run doing something, where I'm like, I'm not probably putting much personality into it anyways. It's just like, you need information and I need to speak it to you as fast as possible. So then in that case, I don't care. But I'm sure there are lots of people, no matter how good Rambler gets, where when you get that text message, you're like, you can tell person typed this, person speech to text this. Like periods, capitalization, everything proper. You're just like.

• 11:42David Imel?

  Oh, yeah.

• 11:43Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, they just yelled that into their phone.

• 11:44David Imel?

  It's like you put too much effort into it. You need to put less effort because that's how I know you care.

• 11:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's also, it's, everyone's always, oh, did you write this with an LLM? Did you write this with AI? If you use Rambler, is this now in the gray area of like, well, you did write this yourself, but.

• 12:01David Imel?

  You refined it.

• 12:02Speaker 02

  Kinda.

• 12:02David Imel?

  You refined it with AI.

• 12:03Speaker 02

  Kinda used, yeah.

• 12:04David Imel?

  Yeah. They made a weirdly big deal and we'll get to the Google event in a bit. But they did make a weirdly big deal about the fact that you could add an emoji with your voice, which you could always do. I, I've, I've done that a lot. I'm always like heart emoji or like.

• 12:17Speaker 02

  I think a lot of people didn't know you could do that before.

• 12:19David Imel?

  Yeah, I guess, I guess it's just reintroducing features.

• 12:23Speaker 02

  It's like the Apple thing, like, and you can also, it's like, well, you could do that for years.

• 12:26David Imel?

  Your iPhone can send text messages.

• 12:29Andrew Manganelli?

  Wow.

• 12:29David Imel?

  Wow.

• 12:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:31Andrew Manganelli?

  Real quick to go in, the first story I have here relating to, uh, the, did they even test this? Is all people who had Google Assistant got this email over the last week. Um, that's starting September 4th, Google is starting the process of removing access to Google Assistant on your phone, tablet, or paired devices. Once the ability is removed, you won't be able to switch back to Assistant.

• 12:50Speaker 02

  R I P.

• 12:51Andrew Manganelli?

  R I P. There are a couple of funny things about this email that I thought. One is the intro sentence says, Gemini, our next generation AI powered assistant is now the assistant experience on Android asterisk. Uh, Gemini is AI and can make mistakes, including about people. So great start to the email.

• 13:09David Imel?

  Yep.

• 13:09Andrew Manganelli?

  Uh, the paragraph after that saying assistant will be removed also says, if your Android device meets the minimum requirements or, and you're in a region where it's available. And then just doesn't say what happens if you don't meet those parameters. So I'm not sure if Assistant will stay presumably.

• 13:25David Imel?

  Hmm.

• 13:26Andrew Manganelli?

  Or they just.

• 13:27David Imel?

  Yeah, I guess.

• 13:28Andrew Manganelli?

  It has to be that, right?

• 13:30Speaker 02

  It's gonna be for extremely old phones. I haven't used Assistant in years because phones for the past eight years have all come out with this new, maybe not eight years, but a long time, they all got an updated Gemini.

• 13:40Andrew Manganelli?

  Mm hmm.

• 13:40Speaker 02

  So phones with Assistant that didn't meet the system requirements for Gemini, I do wonder, do they just not have an assistant anymore? Do they shut down this?

• 13:49David Imel?

  I don't think so. I think they'll just keep Google Assistant temporarily.

• 13:52Andrew Manganelli?

  It's gotta be so minimal at that point.

• 13:54David Imel?

  Yeah. Is it like regulatory bodies? Is that the whole reason that they can't change over in some regions? Cause sort of like how in the EU, you can't use Siri AI yet. And I saw a tweet a couple of days ago that was like, I entered the US and I was in the US for one microsecond and immediately I got the, you can now use Siri AI notification.

• 14:13Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, really?

• 14:14David Imel?

  So.

• 14:15Andrew Manganelli?

  My guess was language, actually, cause like a lot of time when we see these AI things come up, it's like not available in these regions yet. Um, so I, they obviously, if they don't have the language supported in Gemini, can't.

• 14:26David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 14:26Andrew Manganelli?

  Send a forced upgrade to a region that uses that.

• 14:30David Imel?

  I would imagine they'd keep Google Assistant, cause like removing a feature like that, when people use it pretty consistently is, is kind of insane.

• 14:37Andrew Manganelli?

  It is.

• 14:38David Imel?

  I don't think they do.

• 14:38Andrew Manganelli?

  But also has happened before.

• 14:40David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 14:40Andrew Manganelli?

  With.

• 14:41David Imel?

  It is Google.

• 14:42Speaker 02

  We do have a notably large graveyard of Google products.

• 14:45David Imel?

  That is true.

• 14:45Speaker 02

  It's possible. There is a public website.

• 14:47Andrew Manganelli?

  Um, and the paired devices that includes this Wear OS headphones, earbuds compatible with Gemini, and vehicles running Android Auto. Oh, so here might be our question to the Android thing. Google, uh, cars with Google built in assistant will continue to be the main.

• 15:01Speaker 02

  Oh, that's a good spot where assistant is.

• 15:02David Imel?

  Really?

• 15:03Speaker 02

  All Star or something.

• 15:04David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 15:04Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 15:05David Imel?

  Yeah. So they're not upgrading those to Gemini?

• 15:07Andrew Manganelli?

  No.

• 15:09Andrew Manganelli?

  Or not forcing to Gemini.

• 15:11David Imel?

  Interesting.

• 15:12Andrew Manganelli?

  Which is.

• 15:13David Imel?

  That's strange.

• 15:13Andrew Manganelli?

  Which means this is then, yeah, that means Assistant can still be running. But it is strange that that's not changing.

• 15:19David Imel?

  So fragmented.

• 15:19Andrew Manganelli?

  Cause those are so new, you would think.

• 15:22David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 15:23Andrew Manganelli?

  But maybe just hardware specs on the infotainment system.

• 15:27David Imel?

  Teams not talking to each other?

• 15:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:29David Imel?

  Like we have cars with Google built in. Um, okay.

• 15:33Speaker 02

  Well, we should talk about this event.

• 15:34David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 15:35Speaker 02

  This is a, uh, an evening event. Google did this thing where the embargoes for the hands-on for all of our videos was at 10:00 in the morning Eastern time. And then the event announcing everything was at 6:00 PM that day. And so there was this eight hour gap where everyone already had seen all of the stuff and we're still waiting for the Google event.

• 15:54David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 15:55Speaker 02

  I thought that was a choice. Um.

• 15:57Andrew Manganelli?

  That freaked me out, cause we're in Spain with the time difference. I was looking at the calendar and I saw you respond to someone on Slack, like, they said, when's the embargo? You said, uh, 4:00 PM, cause you're, or no.

• 16:08David Imel?

  10:00.

• 16:09Andrew Manganelli?

  10:00 AM.

• 16:10David Imel?

  10:00 AM.

• 16:10Andrew Manganelli?

  Talking about Eastern time. And I was like, that's not it. The event is later. That's.

• 16:15David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 16:16Andrew Manganelli?

  That's so far away and then had to confirm it. But this is, I mean, we've had, it used to be event ends embargo.

• 16:23David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 16:24Andrew Manganelli?

  Then it started being like event starts embargo, which was funny, cause you get all the memes like, why is anyone gonna watch this? Because all the reviews are out. Yeah, this now, not an hour, not two hours.

• 16:36David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 16:36Andrew Manganelli?

  Eight hours before.

• 16:38David Imel?

  Yeah, notably, event and embargoes was always so nebulous because people, technically, if the public information is out there, you're allowed to report on it. And so I, I remember like the OnePlus 6 or the OnePlus 6T and it was so awkward because they would announce the phones, but the event wouldn't be over. And a bunch of websites would put out their information like as soon as they said, this is the OnePlus 6T.

• 16:59Speaker 02

  So I remember that flip being switched, cause I remember it would always be, uh, let's say the event was 10:00 AM and it would end at 11:00 AM and the embargo was 11:00 AM. And so they'd say, here is your, your hands-on, you do the video, your embargo was 11:00 AM. So the event would end at like 10:55 and everyone would be like.

• 17:16David Imel?

  Can we?

• 17:16Speaker 02

  And then at exactly 11:00 AM, everyone would publish, as we were supposed to. And then people would like start to go a little earlier, a little bit earlier, cause the event had ended. So then I remember getting an email for a random, I don't remember which company, but it would, it would say something like, the embargo is 11:00 AM or whenever the feature is announced on stage, whichever comes first.

• 17:35David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 17:36Andrew Manganelli?

  The feature?

• 17:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, or whenever the, yeah, they would like have a whole list of the embargoes.

• 17:41David Imel?

  Oh, yeah.

• 17:42Speaker 02

  And so then you would have to choose when to publish based on if your video was breaking the embargo for 11:00 AM or if the thing that is in your video was talked about on stage at 10:48, then you could publish then.

• 17:54David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 17:54Speaker 02

  That happened for a few years. Then, yeah, we started getting like before the event and.

• 17:58David Imel?

  Yeah, I think at that point, it just got more and more confusing because people started sort of intentionally breaking the embargo, cause it was already so nebulous and like confusing that people are like, nobody's gonna like call me out for this because I have a way to justify it to them, you know?

• 18:13Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 18:13David Imel?

  And then it became like, people were publishing minutes before the event ended because like, oh, my stream was faster or whatever. And it just, I don't know. Personally, this eight hour gap, this is like one of the first times we've seen something like this. I like it because.

• 18:27Speaker 02

  I mean, as a publisher, I'm totally cool.

• 18:29David Imel?

  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Cause like people just read all of our stuff, watch all of our stuff.

• 18:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:34David Imel?

  And, um, I think the, the fact that like Samsung, you know, puts it out, the embargo is the exact same time as the event, probably hurts their numbers and hurts our numbers. So neither of us are happy. I like the fact that people are gonna come consume our content and then eight hours go by, people can kind of digest what we had said and then watch the way that Google presents it. And I think that's interesting.

• 18:55Speaker 02

  It's interesting. I've always liked it the other way around. It felt more correct. Where first you'd hear the marketing packaged version and then afterwards you'd hear the breakdown of what all of that really means or what people believe in, what that means.

• 19:08David Imel?

  That's fair.

• 19:09Speaker 02

  And so if I was like a casual or just a consumer of that information, I would, I would see the marketing thing and then I'd decide in the moment, do I wanna look at the marketing?

• 19:17David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 19:17Speaker 02

  Or do I just wait until I trust these people and hear what they have to say? I think that's the way I always picture it.

• 19:23David Imel?

  Yeah, that's a good point.

• 19:24Speaker 02

  Now, I mean, that's the way it still happens at like Apple doesn't pre-brief. That's kind of the way it still goes there. Like you first see the event and then later throughout the day, you see the reactions of the people. But yeah, for like the Samsung thing, what I've noticed is we'll publish our video at event start.

• 19:38David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 19:38Speaker 02

  And then you'll watch the event and 200 to 500,000 people will watch it live. And then when it ends, I will see traffic to our video go up. Like the minute the Samsung event ends and people start leaving and going back to YouTube homepage, they'll see our videos and then you'll see the traffic go up. So there's a group of people who are not too casual to be watching the Samsung event live.

• 20:01David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 20:02Speaker 02

  But they're not too into it to be watching our video first.

• 20:06David Imel?

  Interesting.

• 20:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:07Andrew Manganelli?

  That is, I wonder if a lot of those people are the people who are used to the old embargo of like. We're still yearning for the days where an event surprises us.

• 20:15David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 20:16Andrew Manganelli?

  And I wonder if some of those people are still the ones like, in my day, we watched the event.

• 20:20David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 20:21Andrew Manganelli?

  We watched the reviews. This was what a release day was to me. I need to see the event. If there's anything that's gonna surprise me, now all you get is some weird Spider-Man hanging up in the corner of a stage.

• 20:31David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 20:31Andrew Manganelli?

  Or a celebrity, but like.

• 20:33David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 20:34Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, I, I think David's totally right on, this actually does feel in the new age probably the best because it doesn't affect views on either person. The, the reason it sucks for Google on this one, and we'll get to why, is you say like, we're gonna watch all the reviews and digest. Well, that means now the live stream for Google is a bunch of people with pitchforks and torches outside of the Google event because they're not happy with this release, banging on it, just ready to destroy the chat on YouTube.

• 21:07David Imel?

  I was thinking about that because like the Apple events, for example, people don't know anything. And so we as like reviewers and stuff, we see stuff and then we instantly have to touch it. And then we have to make editorial decisions in the moment about what we're gonna talk about and like how we're gonna feel about it. But we didn't have any time to die, to look at them, digest the information, spend time with the devices. And so it's more of like a raw reaction. And so the, the hype around the product is actually lower because we have more time to think more critically and think about, oh, is this actually better? Blah, blah, blah.

• 21:40Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 21:40David Imel?

  Instead of just touching, touching, touching. I don't know if I can, I can't like give you an opinion on this yet, but here it is, you know?

• 21:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, I've always found companies like Apple are obsessed with controlling the narrative around their products. So if you think of it as like the funnel of like the widest group, when they present and they show their event, that is the largest swath of people to be getting the message. So they control that one. And then afterwards, there is a smaller group who, who will hear a different version of the message from people like us.

• 22:08David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 22:09Speaker 02

  With this, it was like upside down. It started with all of us.

• 22:13David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 22:13Speaker 02

  Who had time to figure this out, essentially controlling the narrative in a way that seems like Apple would never want.

• 22:19David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 22:20Speaker 02

  And then eight hours later.

• 22:22David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 22:22Speaker 02

  The nicely packaged marketing narrative where everyone goes, oh, but that's just the marketing thing.

• 22:26David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 22:26Speaker 02

  You know?

• 22:27David Imel?

  It is weird, it is weird. And it, it's the reverse Uno card of what Apple would do. I was gonna say pineapple upside down cake, but it's too early for that.

• 22:36Speaker 02

  Well, the event was a.

• 22:37Andrew Manganelli?

  I was gonna say, do you think part of it also, we'll talk about the celebrity who's there, Trevor Noah this year, but with Jimmy Fallon, was that last year? Last year.

• 22:47David Imel?

  Tensor.

• 22:47Andrew Manganelli?

  Tensor, yeah. It became like such a meme because it was pretty awkward throughout the whole thing. But clearly Google's trying to bring celebrities in to try and get a little more average person watching.

• 22:57David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 22:57Andrew Manganelli?

  My thought was, the people who are gonna meme up the celebrity are probably the people watching our videos. Throw that eight hours ahead and maybe a lot of that audience has gotten their share of what's going on and doesn't really care about celebrity. Doesn't watch, less of a chance that Twitter's filled with Jimmy Fallon yelling about random.

• 23:18David Imel?

  The people they're trying to reach don't watch our videos anyway, probably.

• 23:21Andrew Manganelli?

  Exactly. I think the audience is so different. Now the event doesn't have to be a little clouded by the audience that's probably gonna dunk on it.

• 23:29David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 23:30Speaker 05

  Wait, wait, I'm sorry. Can you describe this like hypothetical person you're talking about that doesn't care enough about the Pixel to watch a Marquez Brown lead video, but does care enough to like sit down at 6:00 PM and watch a full Google event?

• 23:43Andrew Manganelli?

  Ellis, at this point, I felt like I'm taking crazy pills for so long, thinking that anyone other than our videos watches these events. But every year people swear to me that they do. So I'm just accepting that maybe that person does exist.

• 23:56Speaker 05

  All right, man.

• 23:56Andrew Manganelli?

  I also am.

• 23:57Speaker 05

  Are they in the room with us right now?

• 23:58Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, I like, like, Google almost feels like they're treating it, I mean, it is Google, so they could just be pushing it to people's homepages of YouTube. So like that actually for Google, it might make.

• 24:08Speaker 02

  They're also probably doing it for social.

• 24:10David Imel?

  That clipping.

• 24:11Speaker 02

  Trevor.

• 24:12David Imel?

  Yeah, we need to think about the clip economy.

• 24:14Speaker 02

  We think our video is big. It was interesting, like the, our video had almost a million and a half views by the time the event started. So we're like, oh, great. And then the event goes on and has like 50,000 live viewers. So I'm like, okay, this is a smaller part of the funnel. But then Google is going to put this everywhere. I'm sure we'll check back in and it'll have 10 million views because they paid for ads for it and it's everywhere.

• 24:33Andrew Manganelli?

  Or it was like live streaming on the homepage as you log on to.

• 24:36David Imel?

  Gemini will suggest it by tomorrow.

• 24:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, so that's their version of the wide version of the funnel and controlling the narrative, blah, blah, blah. They're just gonna send it there.

• 24:45David Imel?

  They're also gonna just be clipping this like crazy. They're gonna be putting it in social feeds. They're gonna be putting it on TikTok. They're gonna be doing everything with it.

• 24:51Speaker 02

  I will say, I think they picked the right person this time.

• 24:53David Imel?

  For sure.

• 24:54Andrew Manganelli?

  100%.

• 24:54Speaker 02

  So last time it was Jimmy Fallon. We've all talked about that episode.

• 24:58Andrew Manganelli?

  What else is there to be said?

• 25:00Speaker 02

  You know, it's a guy who hosts the show and is well-known, blah, blah, blah. Great. Trevor Noah has also hosted a show, but he's also notably like online and watches tech videos. And you could tell he was kinda into it and also was much more charismatic and, and sort of ad-libbed a little bit, which was funny and threw some Googlers off, but it was also like.

• 25:19David Imel?

  Really funny. It was really funny.

• 25:22Andrew Manganelli?

  Really good.

• 25:22Speaker 02

  So, so that was our, our host for the, the event. And they of course go through all the different, you know, Googlers who contributed to different parts of the stuff that we heard about. And it was, it was pretty informative. It was also still marketing speak, but we got to get some questions answered on the spot, which is kinda cool. We got three phones.

• 25:41David Imel?

  Four.

• 25:41Speaker 02

  Eleven, I guess four. Pixel 11, 11 Pro, 11 Pro Max and 11 Pro Fold. We also got.

• 25:46David Imel?

  Pro XL.

• 25:46Speaker 02

  And 11 Pro XL. Thank you.

• 25:48Speaker 05

  They're all the same.

• 25:49Speaker 02

  Sorry. And then we got the Watch 5. We got Pixel, Google Tags.

• 25:55David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 25:55Speaker 02

  Google Tag.

• 25:56David Imel?

  Google, Google Tag.

• 25:57Speaker 02

  Google Tag.

• 25:58Andrew Manganelli?

  It's Google Tag?

• 25:58David Imel?

  Wait, it's Pixel Tag. Sorry, Pixel Tag. Pixel Tag.

• 26:01Speaker 02

  It's Pixel.

• 26:01David Imel?

  You're right, it's Pixel Tag.

• 26:02Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 26:02Andrew Manganelli?

  Guys, we're running on like four hours.

• 26:04David Imel?

  It is.

• 26:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, yeah. We can talk about all of that stuff. We should probably just start with the phone. Should we take a, a break and then come back and do?

• 26:10Andrew Manganelli?

  Let's just do the one so we can talk about it before the first ad break.

• 26:13Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 26:14Andrew Manganelli?

  Let's just talk about the big feature.

• 26:16Speaker 02

  This is a feature that to me exemplifies Google in 2026.

• 26:21David Imel?

  This is only in the pros, right?

• 26:22Speaker 02

  This is just in the pros, but it's called Highlight. And what it is, is it's a multi-color or RGB, whatever, LED on the back of the phone that is just, well, it's two things. It's the flash and it's also multi-color to be a notification light, sort of, for exactly two things.

• 26:40David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  One, for while you are actively speaking to Gemini.

• 26:46David Imel?

  While your phone is faced down.

• 26:48Speaker 02

  While your phone is.

• 26:48David Imel?

  Only. Cause people do that.

• 26:50Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, like on, like on a surface. So even if you're holding it.

• 26:54Speaker 02

  Not while you're holding.

• 26:55Andrew Manganelli?

  You might be facing the back.

• 26:56David Imel?

  Only while it's. Gotta be faced down on the table.

• 26:58Andrew Manganelli?

  I just want, we're gonna talk about, every new thing I learn about this feature makes me more mad. There hasn't been a part of this feature that I've been like, cool.

• 27:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. Okay. So it's, it's, it's while you're talking to Gemini, it'll light up and it'll glow in this little multi-color orb. Or two, while you're receiving a phone call from a contact that you've assigned a color to specifically.

• 27:21David Imel?

  Favorites, yeah.

• 27:22Speaker 02

  So you go into the contacts, you have a favorite, you assign them a color. There's five colors.

• 27:27Andrew Manganelli?

  That.

• 27:28Speaker 02

  Five.

• 27:28Andrew Manganelli?

  Just learned that this morning. Five colors.

• 27:32Speaker 02

  Five colors.

• 27:32Andrew Manganelli?

  You want, can you name the five colors?

• 27:34Speaker 02

  I think it's like, what was funny is they actually said at the event, there's no red. There is yellow, blue, purple, white.

• 27:43Andrew Manganelli?

  White.

• 27:43Speaker 02

  And like some other greenish.

• 27:46Andrew Manganelli?

  Five colors and white is one of them.

• 27:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:48Andrew Manganelli?

  It's, it's white when it's turned off.

• 27:51Speaker 02

  So it must not be RGB then, because it can't do red.

• 27:55Andrew Manganelli?

  I put RGB in here just assuming.

• 27:58Speaker 05

  It's white, it's RGB.

• 28:00Speaker 02

  So how does it not have the ability to do?

• 28:02David Imel?

  It probably has the ability, they just didn't put it in. Yeah.

• 28:05Speaker 02

  Why not? It's, why not give it, okay.

• 28:07David Imel?

  Yeah, this is.

• 28:08Speaker 02

  This is.

• 28:08David Imel?

  You get, you, there's no logical.

• 28:12Speaker 02

  It can do white, which is all of the colors.

• 28:14David Imel?

  It can do orange, okay?

• 28:15Speaker 02

  Do all of the.

• 28:16Speaker 05

  No, they just don't let it.

• 28:17Speaker 02

  They just don't let it.

• 28:18David Imel?

  They just don't let us.

• 28:19Speaker 02

  Why? Okay.

• 28:20David Imel?

  Okay.

• 28:21Speaker 02

  Yeah. So yeah, notably no text messages, no custom app assignments. Like when you hear that this new phone in 2026 has a custom RGB notification light, I wouldn't blame you if your first thought was, oh, great. When I get a spam call, it'll go red. When I get an email, it'll go green. When I get a Zelle, it'll go blue. When I get a Venmo, it'll go purple. And they have, you have all these ideas about things you'll do with different apps. None of those things are possible as of right now.

• 28:49Andrew Manganelli?

  None of, yeah.

• 28:50Speaker 02

  Just.

• 28:51David Imel?

  We don't have the technology.

• 28:52Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, 20, the 2017 Note 8, it was like yellow Snapchat, blue Twitter, green messages.

• 28:59Speaker 05

  The minimal phone does this.

• 29:01Speaker 02

  Oh, wait, really does it?

• 29:03Speaker 05

  The minimal phone too is a notification.

• 29:04Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, yeah, we were talking about that. It's the thing I've wanted back most and partially because it's so simple. I'm surprised. So when I saw this, I was like, yo. It's not the glowing bar, but like this is gonna slap.

• 29:16Speaker 02

  This is such an opportunity for such a win. I remember the first, like the Nexus, what was the Nexus one? Had a trackball light?

• 29:22David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 29:22Speaker 02

  I miss those.

• 29:23David Imel?

  Dude, on my Nexus 6 with Cyanogen mod, you could, you could design this RGB LED that wasn't even officially part of the phone.

• 29:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:31David Imel?

  Which is something they put in the phone that wasn't used at all.

• 29:35Andrew Manganelli?

  Like in the earpiece, right?

• 29:36David Imel?

  Yeah, in the earpiece. And you could just use it for whatever you wanted, in any color, any notification. And we don't have the technology 15 years later.

• 29:44Speaker 05

  We forgot how.

• 29:45David Imel?

  We forgot how to do it. We don't have the machining anymore.

• 29:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:48David Imel?

  It's crazy.

• 29:49Speaker 02

  I, to me, this, this exemplifies Google right now because if they were cohesive and all talking to each other and were thinking this through, this all seems very obvious to me, that they would have done all this. They would have given us the ability to set it to certain apps and messages and lots of other stuff.

• 30:06David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 30:07Speaker 02

  The fact that you can't, Trevor actually asked during the event if they would let you do other stuff like messages. And I think they, all they did was confirm that they.

• 30:15David Imel?

  They're working.

• 30:16Speaker 02

  They're working on it being for messages as well.

• 30:18Andrew Manganelli?

  For messages.

• 30:19David Imel?

  Why do you have to work on it?

• 30:20Speaker 02

  It seems pretty straight.

• 30:21David Imel?

  I also thought that in our vibe code economy, you could just tell Gemini to make this work and it would happen.

• 30:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:27David Imel?

  It is funny.

• 30:27Speaker 02

  But apparently not.

• 30:29Andrew Manganelli?

  Especially because if you're setting it for the contact, then you have the color.

• 30:33David Imel?

  It's only calls?

• 30:34Andrew Manganelli?

  To do is be that color for more or less time. One blink or multiple blinks. And now it is message versus.

• 30:41David Imel?

  I feel like I can see their vision, right? Because their messaging around this Pixel, this whole line of pixels has been, let Google handle the complicated parts of your life. Get back to your normal life. Like a lot of the things in this event have been like, stop staring at your phone, use Gemini for things. And then like, you know, let AI do things for you. So I get the vision of like, leave your phone faced down on the table, except for when you really need it.

• 31:06Andrew Manganelli?

  Except the base phone.

• 31:07David Imel?

  Except, except for what?

• 31:08Andrew Manganelli?

  The base.

• 31:09Speaker 02

  Except for the base phone, unless you're poor.

• 31:12David Imel?

  Um, but.

• 31:15David Imel?

  But really, it's just not built out at all. It's just like, they need to, they need to actually deliver.

• 31:20Andrew Manganelli?

  It reminds me so much of the Fitbit Air software UI, where it's

• 31:27Speaker 02

  Completely broken.

• 31:28Andrew Manganelli?

  It's so bad that you don't even need a future promise of an update, because we all have to assume it's going to get fixed. Like, you almost have to assume it's broken.

• 31:39David Imel?

  That, yeah.

• 31:39Andrew Manganelli?

  This is just so not fleshed out.

• 31:42David Imel?

  The current and especially early Fitbit Air actual exercise UI, when you were doing an exercise, looked like my Computer Science 101, like, first Hello World project. Where you just, like, put text on the screen on a big white box. That's all it was.

• 31:57Andrew Manganelli?

  And all of it was misaligned, and there was, like, multiple different dark backgrounds.

• 32:02David Imel?

  Yeah, it was bad.

• 32:04Speaker 02

  Okay, two updates on highlight.

• 32:05David Imel?

  There's updates.

• 32:06Speaker 02

  I'm on their website right now.

• 32:07Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm prepared to get more, Matt.

• 32:09Speaker 02

  Two really, okay. One is it's not on the Pro Fold either.

• 32:13David Imel?

  What?

• 32:13Speaker 02

  It's just on the Pro and Pro XL.

• 32:15David Imel?

  But they told us at the event.

• 32:17Andrew Manganelli?

  I read a different article this morning that said it was on Pro Fold.

• 32:19David Imel?

  Well, that's because they told me that at the event.

• 32:21Speaker 02

  Same. They told me it was on all the phones. I'm reading the website. It says on Pixel 11 Pro and 11 Pro XL. So that's, that's my update. Two is, the reason it's able to do white but not red is because it's not really RGB. It's using the flash, which is still in there, for white.

• 32:39David Imel?

  Oh.

• 32:40Speaker 02

  But it's doing a weird color wheel for the rest of the colors. It doesn't include red. Flash in the middle for white.

• 32:47Andrew Manganelli?

  And Simon says-

• 32:48Speaker 02

  Blue, cyan, and orange to combine to make a Gemini colors, but it doesn't include red. So, no red.

• 32:55Andrew Manganelli?

  But the, that has to be more expensive than an RGB, than an LED.

• 32:59David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 33:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Put an RGB LED in there?

• 33:02Speaker 05

  Yeah. Someone in the comments corrects me if I'm wrong, but there's, there's really only two ways to get a white LED. You can do three diodes, and a red, a green, and a blue, and fire them all at the same time, and then you get white, because they combine. Or you can do a blue LED that fires at a coating that has like a phosphorus that emits white, like when the photons get activated.

• 33:22Speaker 02

  They're not clear about if this is a filter. I mean, this is, I'm just going by the animation. I can't-

• 33:26Speaker 05

  No, no, totally. But like, there's a 50% chance that the flash underneath there is an RGB.

• 33:32Speaker 02

  If they just fire the red LED already. Yeah.

• 33:35Speaker 05

  I don't, I don't, I hope someone in the comments corrects me. I'm sure I'm missing something, but this still feels like they just went way around the block.

• 33:43Speaker 02

  Surely there's no one clever enough at Google to think of a way to make this turn right.

• 33:47David Imel?

  Yeah. I think that they are probably thinking about the highlight thing as like, as like a screen, because it animates for Gemini. It kind of like waves around and moves, and it's supposed to be sort of like, a little bit-

• 33:58Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah. So you're saying this is all they wanted to actually do?

• 34:01David Imel?

  Was Gemini.

• 34:02Andrew Manganelli?

  Was the Gemini thing, but they threw us a bone. They gave us the most half-baked-

• 34:06David Imel?

  I think they knew that if it was only Gemini, people would be like, very angry about that.

• 34:10Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, that backfired, because I'm more angry now. Um, here's a question, though. When you get calls from anyone who is not part of your favorites, does the dot do nothing?

• 34:20David Imel?

  I don't think it does anything.

• 34:21Andrew Manganelli?

  It doesn't do anything.

• 34:21David Imel?

  You have to assign, and it has to be the favorites.

• 34:24Andrew Manganelli?

  Can I assign a color to everyone else?

• 34:27Speaker 02

  You can go through your contacts one by one and give everyone a color.

• 34:30Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, my god. Wait, you can give multiple people the same color?

• 34:33David Imel?

  It can't just be phone call, yellow, and then mom, blue.

• 34:36Speaker 02

  No, it is, it is in the contacts app specifically.

• 34:40David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 34:40Speaker 02

  So it's not the phone app or the messages app. You go into contacts, you select that contact, and you give that contact one of the colors. And then when they call you and only call you, you will see that color.

• 34:51David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 34:52Speaker 05

  Carl Pei is laughing so hard. He's like, I nailed this. Try one shot.

• 34:56David Imel?

  I, I could tell that Google felt very mixed about this feature in general with like, how much they wanted to promote it, because at our hands-on event, they had constructed a giant Pixel camera bar on the wall, where you could hit a big red button.

• 35:09Speaker 02

  It would glow.

• 35:10David Imel?

  Notably, a red button.

• 35:11Andrew Manganelli?

  Red button.

• 35:12David Imel?

  And it would make the giant Pixel, Pixel, uh, highlight kind of glow and do the Gemini thing. So they had a big stand that was like, look how cool this is, but then they didn't talk about it at the hands-on event at all.

• 35:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:27David Imel?

  And so-

• 35:27Speaker 02

  It was deep into the event itself.

• 35:29David Imel?

  Yeah, and it was very short.

• 35:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:32David Imel?

  As well. So, I don't know. It seems like the hardware team, like, went kind of hard, and then the software team was like, oh, forgot about this. We were supposed to do that. Yeah, they didn't use Google Tasks to actually realize that they're supposed to map it to anything. Anyway, we got a lot more features to talk about, and we don't have very long in this hotel, so we should probably take a break.

• 35:53Speaker 02

  Let's say a quick break.

• 35:54Andrew Manganelli?

  Do we also have?

• 35:57Speaker 02

  Whoa.

• 35:59Speaker 02

  We sure do.

• 36:00Speaker 05

  Bienvenidos al preguntas de web form. Pregunta numero uno. Estabas atento?

• 36:08David Imel?

  Were you paying attention? Is this to the event last night?

• 36:12Andrew Manganelli?

  Indeed.

• 36:13David Imel?

  By the way, we watched this event at midnight. That's when it started for us.

• 36:16Andrew Manganelli?

  I watched. We got back at 11:47. Most of the event at 2X speed while cleaning my room this morning.

• 36:22David Imel?

  Then you're gonna crush the-

• 36:23Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm so screwed.

• 36:24David Imel?

  My head hurts.

• 36:26Speaker 05

  Trevor Noah was surprised by Liverpool legend Steven Gerrard. But before he came out, Trevor wondered if it was actually him or Gemini speaking in what regional British accent?

• 36:37Speaker 02

  Hmm, I'm gonna rate, I don't have my whiteboard, so.

• 36:40David Imel?

  There are regional British accents?

• 36:42Speaker 05

  Yes, this one is the Liverpool.

• 36:44David Imel?

  Really? The UK is so small, man.

• 36:47Speaker 02

  No, it's so, it's so complicated. The UK is so complicated.

• 36:50Speaker 05

  What I'm essentially asking is, what is the Liverpool accent called?

• 36:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, I got it. I was just gonna-

• 36:54Andrew Manganelli?

  This is one of those things where I know one name of an accent, and the opportunity of how many people are gonna get mad when it's wrong is-

• 37:03David Imel?

  Probably Tagalog.

• 37:04Andrew Manganelli?

  I'd rather probably just not get the post.

• 37:06David Imel?

  I'm kidding.

• 37:09Speaker 02

  Well, we'll think about it. Uh, we will probably have to guess some accents. Answers at the end like usual. We'll be right back.

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• 38:45Speaker 02

  All right, welcome back. Uh, quick update. We continued reading, uh, more Google websites about highlight, and it does seem like they have also said that the 11 Pro Fold has highlight, so I'm throwing it back on the table. Facephone doesn't have it. Not enough room, question mark? I don't know. Pro Fold does have it. Pro and Pro XL also have it.

• 39:06Andrew Manganelli?

  Yes.

• 39:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:07Andrew Manganelli?

  I guess we'll find out in the full review.

• 39:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, I guess we will. Uh, anyway, let's talk about these phones. There's a bunch of new phones. There's a bunch of storylines going around about these phones. I think the, the main storyline is one of the silly ones, which is, oh, this isn't a big upgrade from the Pixel 10. Yeah, true. Um, phones are incremental nowadays. I agree. But the Pixel 11 has Tensor 6, it has a brighter display, it has slightly faster wireless charging, and it's 100 bucks more because memory is expensive, and that's-

• 39:38David Imel?

  It's a thinner camera bar.

• 39:39Speaker 02

  A new, thinner camera bar and a new primary camera sensor.

• 39:43Andrew Manganelli?

  Does it charge quicker?

• 39:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah, charges wire and wireless quicker. It's funny, there is a, there was one feature I saw that I didn't even get briefed about, but somebody like tweeted a screenshot, and maybe I missed it during the event, about like, an extreme charging mode.

• 39:56Andrew Manganelli?

  I was trying to read about it really quick.

• 39:58Speaker 02

  I, do you know what it is? Because it seems like-

• 40:00Andrew Manganelli?

  It seems like it's a software thing that can just prioritize charging over, or like, pause tasks that are going on in the phone to prioritize charging?

• 40:08Speaker 02

  It was just funny to me because it's probably like 30 watts, which is like, not extreme at all, but they're calling it the extreme charging mode, which is their fastest possible charging, which is, you know, it's better than not having a faster charging.

• 40:20David Imel?

  Well, Citi can charge the Pro XL to like 75% in 30 minutes, and the Pro and the regular 11 to 55% in 30 minutes, if you use a extreme charging mode.

• 40:30Speaker 02

  I'm coming from the OnePlus 15, where I would look at a charger and it would go to 100% in seconds. So, yeah, it's, I, you know, welcome small incremental increases. You know, Tensor 6, we don't know that much about, but we'll, we'll benchmark it. We'll see if it's dramatically better at anything. I'm sure it'll be slightly faster with CPU, better with AI performance, more memory bandwidth, the classic stuff we look to for Google Tensor, not necessarily in using GPU or performance otherwise.

• 40:57David Imel?

  Yeah, I have, I have a hot take about Tensor. Can I, can I talk about Tensor?

• 40:59Speaker 02

  Hot take, yeah, please.

• 41:00David Imel?

  Okay. I think that people think about, like, SoCs and CPUs differently than Google thinks about SoCs and CPUs.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 41:09David Imel?

  And I think that people always look at Tensor and they compare it to like a Snapdragon chip, and you can't compare the chips very much. I, I know-

• 41:18Andrew Manganelli?

  I can.

• 41:19David Imel?

  I mean, you can in certain ways.

• 41:21Andrew Manganelli?

  That's what I'd say if I was losing.

• 41:23David Imel?

  You can in certain ways because like obviously the gaming performance, the FPS, whatever, that's all whatever. But Google's been hyper optimizing for TPUs for like a while, like ever since Tensor one. That's the, that's part of the reason they made Tensor in the first place was because they were like, oh, we need to do AI performance, AI performance. Notably in Tensor six, it's 2X the memory bandwidth for Gemini. So they're just like hyper fixated on this world where your phone is like automating things for you, automating tasks, doing things, you know, natural language processing, that kind of stuff, Rambler, local model, yeah, Gemini Nano, that kind of stuff. And I know that Qualcomm also optimizes for this stuff, but it's not the 100%

• 42:06David Imel?

  flagpost thing that Google is thinking about for. So when you, when we look at Tensor six, it's like 2X the memory bandwidth for LLMs and stuff like that, you know, like 2X the TPUs. Big deal for them. Um, there's a new ISP in there that allows them to do new image signal processing stuff that enables the things like the 30X zoom and the regular pixel 11 and the 120X zoom and 11 pros. So, I don't know, I think Google just thinks about when we make these things new every year, how can it enable more AI stuff? Whereas every other company is just like faster.

• 42:41Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 42:42David Imel?

  And more efficient.

• 42:43Speaker 02

  I wonder if that approach is yielding better AI performance in a noticeable way. The same way Qualcomm's approach is yielding faster graphics than Tensor.

• 42:58David Imel?

  Noticeable is a great way to put it because I think that Google is sort of optimizing for the future and thinking about, we don't want to hit a cap. We don't want your phone that is having seven years of updates to one day not be able to meet the AI standards that we're shipping in software.

• 43:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, and Qualcomm is like, I don't want you to ever drop a frame.

• 43:18David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 43:19Speaker 02

  Mobile.

• 43:19David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 43:20Speaker 02

  Like Genshin Impact at 400 FPS.

• 43:23Speaker 05

  My counter to that would be that Qualcomm is doing what people want though, right now.

• 43:28David Imel?

  I think, yeah, for sure.

• 43:29Speaker 05

  AI features.

• 43:30David Imel?

  I'm not saying that the Google approach is correct, but I think that the, what Google wants out of its devices for the future, that's what they're optimizing for.

• 43:38Andrew Manganelli?

  I also think, I think you're right in the sense that people who watch our stuff want. I think 95% of people buying a phone couldn't tell the difference between any of these processors.

• 43:51David Imel?

  Correct.

• 43:51Andrew Manganelli?

  And it will just run exactly how they think.

• 43:54Speaker 05

  95% of people buying the Pixel phone are not even going to use most of the AI features.

• 43:58Speaker 02

  A couple of years ago, I think you could tell the difference between a Tensor chip and a Snapdragon chip in performance.

• 44:03David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 44:03Speaker 02

  Not a, not a.

• 44:04Speaker 05

  I bet most people could.

• 44:05Speaker 02

  You're right. It's not, it's most of us, it's us eyeballing it, but the fact that I could eyeball it means there's some amount of people could tell.

• 44:11David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 44:12Speaker 02

  And then you play a game and you'd be like, oh, it's heating up a lot more. It's actually a way worse performance. Yeah, that's, it was interesting. Now I just wonder how noticeable, like, are we going to hit a cap with Qualcomm chips where they're like, oh my God.

• 44:23David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 44:24Speaker 02

  Look how far AI came. We're focusing on frame rates. Like, we'll see.

• 44:27David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 44:28Speaker 02

  But.

• 44:28David Imel?

  I did get an email last night from, um, MediaTek's PR agency.

• 44:33Speaker 02

  Hilarious.

• 44:33David Imel?

  That said, by the way, MediaTek cannot confirm this, but here's a bunch of articles that infer that MediaTek is now the modem in Tensor.

• 44:44Speaker 02

  That's.

• 44:45David Imel?

  Which was really weird. It was like MediaTek is saying that they can't say, but that they are.

• 44:50Speaker 05

  Well, I would like to say that. Again, I can't announce this, but I personally handcrafted every modem. I'm inferring this, of course.

• 44:57David Imel?

  So there's, the efficiency thing is interesting because, you know, people always shat on Tensor before having terrible like modem efficiency performance because the Samsung modem in Tensor was terrible. And so now we have a MediaTek one, so it.

• 45:12Speaker 05

  Allegedly.

• 45:13David Imel?

  Alleged.

• 45:14Speaker 02

  Potentially.

• 45:14David Imel?

  MediaTek is telling me that they can't tell me that they're the ones making it.

• 45:18Andrew Manganelli?

  It's a guy with a media, hello, I'm MediaTek, handing you an anonymous letter.

• 45:23David Imel?

  Yeah, literally.

• 45:24Andrew Manganelli?

  Wink, wink.

• 45:25David Imel?

  Super weird.

• 45:26Speaker 05

  It's like when there's a rumor about you, but it's a good rumor.

• 45:28David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 45:29Speaker 05

  Telling all your friends.

• 45:29David Imel?

  Anyway, they, they do say that the Tensor G6 chip is quite a bit more efficient and maybe that's why. But, uh, yeah, maybe people won't be as upset anymore. I don't know. I do think certain regions of the world, like China, where everyone plays a lot more mobile games, it'll probably matter more. But they should be buying the phones that can charge at 400 watts. So.

• 45:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, there will be phones for them. This is not phones for them. Yeah, maybe that's why the batteries didn't get bigger on any of these phones.

• 45:56David Imel?

  Yeah, they got actually smaller on the pros by a little bit.

• 45:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, bigger cameras, smaller batteries. But anyway, on the base Pixel, new colors are honestly the most noticeable thing about them to most people. Uh, the fuchsia color is so unbelievably saturated. All of my footage of it, it looks like I'm peeking their like red channels. It's so bright.

• 46:13Andrew Manganelli?

  It reminds me of Rabbit R1 where you're like, impossible to color. Is something wrong with this?

• 46:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, and it looks like that in real life. It's really.

• 46:21Andrew Manganelli?

  I think it's cool.

• 46:21Speaker 02

  It's fuchsia as hell. It's great. Um, so we'll test the cameras. We'll see if they're actually better. At least the primary camera is different.

• 46:27Andrew Manganelli?

  I didn't get to see it, but I think the thinner camera bar looks sweet.

• 46:31Speaker 02

  It is a thinner camera bar.

• 46:33Speaker 05

  Agreed.

• 46:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:34David Imel?

  I have a hot take.

• 46:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, we were fighting about.

• 46:35David Imel?

  We were fighting about this. So now Google offers three levels of camera bars. And depending on how much money you're willing to spend, you get a thicker camera bar, which is interesting.

• 46:44Speaker 05

  That's so backwards.

• 46:45David Imel?

  But Apple, Apple kind of did this with the, the iPhone pros.

• 46:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, triple camera is the big boy.

• 46:50David Imel?

  Yeah, the bigger the, the bump, the bigger the bump, the more.

• 46:54Speaker 02

  I think that's how most people explain.

• 46:56David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 46:57Speaker 02

  Difference between the pros and non-pro.

• 46:58David Imel?

  Pretty much.

• 46:59Speaker 02

  Oh, this is the one with three cameras.

• 47:01David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 47:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:02Speaker 05

  I get that. I just feel like if I'm paying more money, it should feel like the more premium device, which is the smaller camera.

• 47:08David Imel?

  I kind of disagree with that because the Pixel, the Pixel 9A is flush and to me that feels like the cheapest phone.

• 47:15Speaker 05

  Well, that's because the phone itself is super cheap. If you put that on a metal glass, beautiful hardware.

• 47:20David Imel?

  I don't really think so because then it's just, then it's just a rectangle.

• 47:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think, I think people associate the bigger camera bump with the more capable camera.

• 47:28Andrew Manganelli?

  Here's the other thing, the, yeah, the pros have the shiny rails and there's that rail around the camera bump as well. So you get that premium shiny around the camera bump.

• 47:39David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 47:40Andrew Manganelli?

  And it looks more premium.

• 47:41Speaker 05

  No, no, I get visually why that is the case and it being more cameras and everything.

• 47:45Andrew Manganelli?

  I agree with you.

• 47:46Speaker 05

  I feel like if I'm picking something up and I'm holding it, like the iPhone Air, when you pick up an iPhone Air, it's so thin. It's like, wow, like this is a premium device, you know?

• 47:57David Imel?

  Yeah, it also has titanium and it's like super, super.

• 48:00Speaker 05

  It's more like the thinness.

• 48:01David Imel?

  That also has a big camera bar, by the way.

• 48:03Speaker 05

  Well, yeah, but.

• 48:04Speaker 02

  It's an everything bar. The whole phone.

• 48:05Speaker 05

  Everything.

• 48:06David Imel?

  Yeah. The whole, it has a phone bar.

• 48:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:09David Imel?

  The whole phone is, is in the camera.

• 48:10Speaker 05

  It's more so like the, the bump is not like it, I never got over it. Like, I know we've had it for so long, but I'm still like, this is annoying that.

• 48:18David Imel?

  You're gonna have to get over it.

• 48:19Speaker 05

  I know.

• 48:20Speaker 02

  There's something there. I, I see both sides of this where I could understand smaller camera bar means more engineering to shrink this thing.

• 48:28David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 48:29Speaker 02

  Therefore better. But then I also see like bigger camera bar means.

• 48:32Speaker 05

  Better camera.

• 48:33Speaker 02

  Camera, better camera. So that, yeah, I see.

• 48:35David Imel?

  I associate just purely flush phones that are just rectangles with being cheap phones. I don't know.

• 48:40Speaker 02

  With the worst cameras.

• 48:41David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 48:41Speaker 05

  But it's not a rectangle. It's like a squircle thing. Like it's.

• 48:46Andrew Manganelli?

  I will say, I like this thought of, uh, they're physically building the price ladder of flush, step up Pixel, step up Pixel 11 Pro. Then I so badly want XL to be a little bigger and then fold to just be like a quarter inch off the back of the camera.

• 49:05David Imel?

  That'd be incredible.

• 49:05Speaker 05

  New inch, oh, just drop.

• 49:06David Imel?

  Yeah, I mean, there's, there is a reason that they associate it with a better cameras because if you have a bigger sensor, you have to have more Z depth. So they have to make it bigger. But, uh, yeah, it is funny. It is funny. 40% thinner though, uh, on the regular 11, when you, when you like hold it, feel it, it's interesting. It's kind of, it's that in between.

• 49:26Speaker 05

  Yeah, the bar.

• 49:27David Imel?

  The camera bar, the camera bar.

• 49:28Speaker 05

  The bar.

• 49:29David Imel?

  The camera bar.

• 49:29Speaker 02

  Just the camera.

• 49:30David Imel?

  Just the camera.

• 49:30Speaker 02

  So the protrusion itself, that's a protrusion number.

• 49:32Speaker 05

  The premium protrusion.

• 49:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, the premium protrusion.

• 49:35David Imel?

  You're paying for less Z depth.

• 49:37Andrew Manganelli?

  The base did the thing I asked them last year. I was like, Google, you messed up. All you have to do 256 base and praise Google. They did it. For a hundred extra dollars, they didn't do it at all.

• 49:48David Imel?

  They didn't really do it.

• 49:49Andrew Manganelli?

  Worst barrier of entry.

• 49:51David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 49:52Speaker 02

  They did this to all of them.

• 49:52Speaker 05

  Come on.

• 49:54Speaker 02

  So to be clear, last year, the 10 started at 128 gigs, which felt a little bit late to do that, and it was $799. This year, the phone starts at 256 gigs. So we started to clap and then they said, by the way, it also starts now at the price of last year's 256, $900.

• 50:11David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 50:12Speaker 02

  And then we stopped clapping. So, yeah, memory is expensive. Uh, this is probably going to be a trend. This is not the only phone that's going to happen to, but that was, uh, one of the headlines about this phone.

• 50:22David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 50:22Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm very interested, sorry.

• 50:23David Imel?

  No, it's fine. This is, this is happening to every phone in the market. Like, we've seen this across the board.

• 50:28Andrew Manganelli?

  And that is what I wanted to say is the reason last year 128 base at $799 felt so bad is because the iPhone base was 256 at $799.

• 50:38David Imel?

  Everyone.

• 50:39Andrew Manganelli?

  And when Apple is the better deal than you, rough. So.

• 50:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Google almost needs the base iPhone, new iPhone to be

• 50:47David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 50:48Andrew Manganelli?

  A hundred dollar increase and same base.

• 50:50David Imel?

  What is

• 50:51Andrew Manganelli?

  Which most likely will happen.

• 50:52David Imel?

  What's so crazy to me and like, I know that they have to make their margins and whatever, but a lot of these companies, especially Google and Apple, some of the richest companies in the world, if they really want to be competitive, like especially Google, if they want to grow market share, it's a pretty big win for them. And I know that they might have to sell these at a slight loss, or maybe they're not even selling them at a loss, but they're just making a little less money. And I know that's not great, but if they can sell way more phones because the PR of the phone being like, oh, it's still, it's super affordable. It might be better for them in the long run.

• 51:22Speaker 02

  I think everyone watching this intuitively agrees, but when you said make a little less money, all the shareholders went huh.

• 51:29David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 51:29Speaker 02

  And then it didn't.

• 51:30David Imel?

  But maybe they'll make more money because more people will buy the phones.

• 51:33Speaker 02

  Yeah. Short-term gains would be nice.

• 51:36David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 51:37Speaker 02

  In like the things we care about, but they gotta make the number go up every time.

• 51:42David Imel?

  It's just like the Nexus seven, like the Nexus seven tablet. They literally lost $50 on every single tablet they sold so that they could get Google accounts.

• 51:50Andrew Manganelli?

  Even a couple of years ago, the like base pixels were great deals. They were

• 51:54David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 51:55Andrew Manganelli?

  They're like incredible deals compared when the Pro started being like two or $300 more.

• 51:59David Imel?

  300 bucks more.

• 52:00Andrew Manganelli?

  And I'm interested if now in, you know, the market's gonna have to catch up, but we did start seeing, I mean, a pixel market share increase is like a couple of percent, but that's like doubling

• 52:12David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 52:12Andrew Manganelli?

  Percentage wise in US. So like, we did see it go up a little bit. And now I wonder if being the same price as everything else, we're gonna now in two to three years, see it start to not be as good.

• 52:23Speaker 02

  We'll see. It's true. We'll see what the rest of the year happens to do with phones. But yeah, I never thought I would see a $900 starting pixel.

• 52:29David Imel?

  Yeah, it's a lot.

• 52:31Speaker 02

  That is pretty high.

• 52:32David Imel?

  That's a lot.

• 52:32Speaker 02

  So we got the Pros as well.

• 52:34David Imel?

  Yes.

• 52:34Speaker 02

  Slightly less muted or less exciting colors. I will mention, we mentioned the, the rails of the phone are glossy. Except for the new matte black one.

• 52:44Andrew Manganelli?

  So they are listening.

• 52:45Speaker 02

  Somebody somewhere at Google did a little extra work.

• 52:49David Imel?

  This definitely is the MC.

• 52:50Speaker 02

  Phone has matte black rails.

• 52:52David Imel?

  Hundred percent. We've complained about this every year. We've complained about this for years.

• 52:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:57Andrew Manganelli?

  They were so hoping the title of the hands-on impression was gonna be like

• 53:01Speaker 02

  They finally did.

• 53:02Andrew Manganelli?

  Matte black everything, AVN.

• 53:04Speaker 02

  Yeah. So, um, so the Pro XL, the Pro and the Pro XL came out, same size as 6.3, 6.8. Again, brighter displays. I think we

• 53:13David Imel?

  Brightest display on any phone.

• 53:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. 3600 nits is the highest we've seen for peak brightness.

• 53:18David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 53:18Speaker 02

  Legitimately extremely bright in person and on camera. I was turning them up and actually I was mostly turning them down.

• 53:24David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 53:24Speaker 02

  Footage because they were really bright.

• 53:25David Imel?

  Well, and what's crazy is like, you're not even hitting peak brightness when you turn the brightness all the way up. It only does peak brightness when the sun is shining on it and it knows it needs to be brighter.

• 53:34Andrew Manganelli?

  What if there's an eclipse?

• 53:36David Imel?

  Then it'll get darker.

• 53:37Speaker 02

  Yeah. Indoors, it was probably not hitting 36.

• 53:39David Imel?

  No, probably 24 or something.

• 53:41Speaker 02

  But yeah, awesomely bright displays, which is great. Same resolutions. I think we have a new primary camera and a new telephoto, I believe.

• 53:49David Imel?

  Yeah. Yeah. So the primary camera in the Pros is the same size as last year. They told me that the main reason they swapped it out is because it uses less power than the one last year. And if it uses less power, they can fit more. They said, now I can fit more AI features in it. Well, sort of. Yeah. The, the, the camera head, I talked to him about the camera stuff and he said, some of my favorite pixel computational photography features ever you can fit in 100 milliwatts, which is the amount of power that they saved on the primary camera.

• 54:17Speaker 02

  I see, I see, I see.

• 54:18David Imel?

  So I think that's the way that they think about these things. Yes. But the telephoto camera is, uh, bigger and gets 30% more light intake.

• 54:26Speaker 02

  That's nice.

• 54:27David Imel?

  So.

• 54:27Speaker 02

  That's nice.

• 54:28David Imel?

  Good.

• 54:28Speaker 02

  So we'll be testing the zoom on these news, uh, on these new cameras, uh, tensor G6 as well. Less RAM.

• 54:35David Imel?

  On the base.

• 54:36Speaker 02

  So on the base Pixel 11 Pro, last year was 16 gigs of RAM. This year it's down to 12.

• 54:43David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 54:43Speaker 02

  But if you upgrade from 256 to 512 or a terabyte of storage, you're back up to 16 gigs of RAM again.

• 54:48David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 54:48Speaker 02

  So that's notably less RAM on the base Pro, which by the way is more expensive, a hundred bucks more expensive again. So they start at $1,100 and the Pro XL starts at $1,300.

• 55:00David Imel?

  Crazy.

• 55:01Andrew Manganelli?

  What's the jump from 256 to 512?

• 55:04Speaker 02

  In price?

• 55:05David Imel?

  It's 200 bucks.

• 55:06Andrew Manganelli?

  It's 200 bucks?

• 55:07David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 55:07Andrew Manganelli?

  I was gonna say, that'd be, that'd be really like, if it was only a hundred bucks, uh, you would get them for extra gigs of RAM and the double of storage, but it's, it's wild that

• 55:19David Imel?

  Wait, I might be wrong.

• 55:21Speaker 02

  Hold on.

• 55:21Andrew Manganelli?

  Look at, but like dropping, this is the most RAM again, and thing I've ever seen, which is increased price by a hundred dollars. Give less RAM than last year.

• 55:30Speaker 05

  While you guys look this up, I just want to put a little bit of context on something David said earlier. Um, Google does not report what percentage of their revenue actually comes from Pixel specifically. But they do report a category of their revenue called subscriptions, platforms and devices.

• 55:47David Imel?

  Yeah, they loop it all in.

• 55:48Speaker 05

  Yeah. And, uh, the numbers I'm seeing for the past few quarters seem to hover between nine and 15% of all revenue.

• 55:56David Imel?

  The subscriptions is a big bucket.

• 55:59Speaker 05

  I, I, I, I don't know what platforms means.

• 56:03David Imel?

  Platforms and devices, it's like Android. It's like, yeah.

• 56:08Speaker 05

  So I guess Pixel is somewhere between zero and nine percent.

• 56:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. This is what companies do when it's either something they want to hide or it's too small to matter or both.

• 56:18Speaker 05

  So it sounds like they can shave a little bit of the price off the

• 56:21Speaker 02

  Like sometimes we'll want to know, how much money did Apple make off of, uh, this random small thing? Like their, how much, how many keyboards did they sell? And you can never find this information because it's always just gonna be looped in with Macs or whatever.

• 56:33Speaker 05

  It's the best-selling keyboard of all time markets.

• 56:35Speaker 02

  They, they'll, they'll say that on stage and they'll put a little asterisk and the fine print is like, trust us, we know.

• 56:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 56:40Speaker 02

  All right. Well, I guess we'll just have to believe that. Um, yeah. So that's, you know, that's the story with the Pros. I'm still gonna be trying it out. Still testing it, still doing the thing where I believe this is gonna be the phone that I use.

• 56:53David Imel?

  But there's so much software stuff.

• 56:54Andrew Manganelli?

  You don't look happy about it.

• 56:55Speaker 02

  It's a matte black Pixel.

• 56:57David Imel?

  We, we do have to talk about all the software stuff though.

• 57:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's plenty of software, but real quick, the new fold, just to get that out, the new specs. So there's a couple of interesting new things with the fold. Uh, it is a tiny bit thinner. I think it's one millimeter thinner.

• 57:10Andrew Manganelli?

  Did you see why?

• 57:12Speaker 02

  Uh, because of the new hinge.

• 57:13Andrew Manganelli?

  Because one side is thinner than the other side?

• 57:16Speaker 02

  Oh, that's also true.

• 57:17Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, yeah.

• 57:18David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 57:18Speaker 02

  I saw that on video.

• 57:19David Imel?

  Front. It says almost a millimeter thinner. And they, they said nearly.

• 57:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:24David Imel?

  A millimeter.

• 57:25Speaker 02

  Nearly one millimeter saved.

• 57:26David Imel?

  Big deal.

• 57:28Speaker 02

  It still will have, I think the same-ish size battery, but, uh, some new camera. Uh, and then the back material is now this like glass fiber composite, which they made a strangely big deal about to me. They were telling me, oh yeah, it's unbreakable. You can't break it. It's impossible. You can, this is never gonna shatter. I was like, what are you, why are you telling, this is saying, that's a very confident way of telling you this is the material.

• 57:50Andrew Manganelli?

  Zach would like the word.

• 57:51Speaker 02

  Yeah. And we're gonna find out. Um, so we'll see. I like that it's still IP68. Like they have gone hard with the durability factor.

• 58:00David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 58:00Speaker 02

  Uh, Samsung's are still IP40 something, I think IP48. You can get them wet, but you can't, they're not IP68.

• 58:07David Imel?

  Okay.

• 58:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. So, so full IP68 still and harder to crack and Victus on the front. It's a, it's a supposedly very durable fold.

• 58:15Speaker 05

  Yeah. I'm so sorry. Is, uh, is glass fiber composite different than just like fiberglass?

• 58:21Speaker 02

  Uh, I guess they're not gonna tell us.

• 58:23Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, glass fiber.

• 58:24Speaker 02

  Tip, I mean, if you ask, cause this is, I don't know if it's Gorilla Glass or not. This is like Gorilla Glass is already a composite.

• 58:30David Imel?

  Victus too.

• 58:31Speaker 02

  That's what just Gorilla Glass.

• 58:32David Imel?

  The back material is some other composite.

• 58:34Speaker 05

  Milk cream composite in my coffee every morning. You don't hear me [BLEEP] brag.

• 58:37Speaker 02

  All composite means is it's mixed with something.

• 58:39David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 58:40Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, what did it, you guys got to feel it. Did it feel like glass or did it feel different?

• 58:44David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 58:44Andrew Manganelli?

  I wonder if that's it. If fiberglass doesn't feel like glass, I wonder if it was attempting to replicate.

• 58:49Speaker 02

  Ceramic in there, who knows?

• 58:50David Imel?

  Yeah. They said the durability was like 3X that of the

• 58:54Andrew Manganelli?

  Front screen?

• 58:55David Imel?

  The front screen. No, the front screen is 2X scratch resistant.

• 58:58Andrew Manganelli?

  But I also saw someone say the front display was claimed to be 3X more durable and the back, they just said nearly impossible to crack. Something about it would have to like fold around the phone in order for it to actually break.

• 59:09Speaker 02

  That's, yeah. I'm impressed by that claim. I need to feel the phone again and figure out.

• 59:16Andrew Manganelli?

  You have to be super confident to make that claim or just lying.

• 59:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:20David Imel?

  They also made the ultra-thin glass thicker, which is really funny. Um, they told me in the briefing, we made the ultra-thin glass thicker to make it more durable.

• 59:30Speaker 02

  Who, you know what's funny? This is, I think we, would you all agree this is the most durable fold?

• 59:36Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't know.

• 59:36David Imel?

  I mean, that's what, that's what they, that's what they say.

• 59:39Speaker 02

  It's supposed, it's

• 59:40Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, allegedly it is.

• 59:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. Because the only phone that's ever exploded in Zach's hands during a Jerry everything test is a Pixel Pro Fold.

• 59:48Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't think it is. I think everyone can understand what Zach did. Was, was like not something that's going to happen in extreme, like it had nothing to do because it was a Pixel.

• 59:58Speaker 02

  The video did blow up and sometimes that affects the way they market the next year's phone. And so maybe they changed the back material so that the glass wouldn't like shatter. Was it last year? Maybe it was two years ago.

• 1:00:08Speaker 05

  Yeah. I'm gonna need to wait for the Zach video to know if this is the most durable fold ever.

• 1:00:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:13David Imel?

  Yeah, well.

• 1:00:14Speaker 05

  I could do it for you too, in New Jersey.

• 1:00:15Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't think Google's as worried about Zach's incident as like Samsung's worried about like Note 7 explosions. That was clearly Samsung's fault, whereas Zach's was like such a specific thing that happened that will never happen to a phone.

• 1:00:29Speaker 02

  It was a lot of chance. This was last year's 10 Pro.

• 1:00:31Andrew Manganelli?

  It was last year.

• 1:00:32Speaker 05

  Some Samsung executive is sitting there just like, God, they're still talking about it.

• 1:00:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:38David Imel?

  Forever.

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  But yeah, in general.

• 1:00:40David Imel?

  $18.99 for that one.

• 1:00:41Speaker 02

  Expensive.

• 1:00:42David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:43Speaker 02

  Obviously still, uh, but all your same stuff, 16 gigs of RAM, tensor G6, slightly larger interior display, slightly thinner bezels, slightly brighter screens, all the Pixel stuff.

• 1:00:52David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:53Speaker 02

  It's all still here. So looking forward to test.

• 1:00:55David Imel?

  Two new made you look animations.

• 1:00:58Andrew Manganelli?

  Yay.

• 1:00:58Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 1:00:59David Imel?

  Yeah. Nice. If you don't remember, made you look is, uh, on the, on the screen, when you have the phone open, the front screen will have like little animation guys that are like, huh, huh, huh. So if you have kids, they'll like stare at it and smile and stuff.

• 1:01:13Andrew Manganelli?

  I did watch it work for

• 1:01:15David Imel?

  Really?

• 1:01:15Andrew Manganelli?

  I saw it in real life. I went to the aquarium with my friend and his daughter and, um, we sat her and Lane on this like little turtle statue and getting both to look at the same time. And he just walks up and goes, and then he told me that he hates the camera so much. Most of the time he does it, he uses that while his wife takes the picture with her iPhone.

• 1:01:37David Imel?

  Ooh, ooh.

• 1:01:39Speaker 02

  Google was about to clip this out of the podcast, like, yes, yeah, oh, no.

• 1:01:44Andrew Manganelli?

  But it did work. It did work very well.

• 1:01:46Speaker 05

  But Trevor said that the Pixel is the best low light photography in the industry.

• 1:01:50Andrew Manganelli?

  That's rough.

• 1:01:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm sure those animations will never come to older Pixel folds.

• 1:01:56David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:56Andrew Manganelli?

  They forgot how.

• 1:01:58David Imel?

  You need the RAM.

• 1:01:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, you need a tensor for sure.

• 1:02:01David Imel?

  Yeah. All right, well, I want to talk about all the, the camera stuff and the software, but I think we need to take one more break. We also got to take, talk about the Pixel Watch and the Pixel Tag, which is the Airdrop competitor.

• 1:02:13Speaker 02

  I could do that pretty quick.

• 1:02:14David Imel?

  You want to take about the Pixel Tag now?

• 1:02:15Speaker 02

  Should we do it real quick?

• 1:02:16David Imel?

  Let's do it.

• 1:02:17Speaker 02

  Okay, you guys have heard of AirTags, right? You know, the, like, the, what's the little, what are they based on?

• 1:02:23Andrew Manganelli?

  AirTags?

• 1:02:23David Imel?

  AirTags?

• 1:02:24Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, find mine?

• 1:02:25Speaker 02

  Circles? No, but they're based on Tiles. Yeah, so you've heard of Tiles, you've heard of AirTags, well now, Google makes one. Same price, same concept, same thing.

• 1:02:32David Imel?

  It's a little longer, though.

• 1:02:34Speaker 02

  You can find it with Gemini.

• 1:02:35Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:36David Imel?

  It looks like the Fitbit Air kind of.

• 1:02:37Speaker 02

  It has a Google G on it.

• 1:02:38Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:38Speaker 02

  It's very small.

• 1:02:40David Imel?

  Thick, yeah.

• 1:02:40Andrew Manganelli?

  What is, it's wider.

• 1:02:41David Imel?

  Gemini mean?

• 1:02:42Speaker 02

  Meaning you can be like, hey Gemini, find my luggage tag, and then if you named luggage tag, it'll be like, it's in Nova Scotia, somebody stole it.

• 1:02:49Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh. That's gonna be so, because people use these for like, kids at amusement parks, so it's gonna be so funny, like, Gemini, where's Lane?

• 1:02:57David Imel?

  You know, you know the smudge tool in Photoshop where you can, it's like the finger thing and you smoosh the thing to the, it's like if you took an AirTag and you used that tool on it, you smooshed it in a direction.

• 1:03:06Andrew Manganelli?

  Does it?

• 1:03:07David Imel?

  Yeah. Because it's elongated, like, there's an area where the battery can go in on the back, and that's a circle, and that's basically the size and shape of an AirTag. And then for some reason, they just elongated it by like, almost twice the length.

• 1:03:19Speaker 02

  It's thinner.

• 1:03:20David Imel?

  It's thinner than an AirTag, but it is longer.

• 1:03:22Andrew Manganelli?

  Kind of looks like the Fitbit Air thingy.

• 1:03:24David Imel?

  Yeah, it's a little, it's a little, a little wider than the Fitbit Air, yeah.

• 1:03:28Speaker 02

  And, yeah, it's thirty bucks.

• 1:03:29Andrew Manganelli?

  Can you replace the battery?

• 1:03:30Speaker 02

  Hopefully they work well. Replaceable battery, yes.

• 1:03:32David Imel?

  Oh, yeah, it's the same as an AirTag, basically.

• 1:03:35Andrew Manganelli?

  This is cool, I'm probably gonna get it off the back.

• 1:03:37David Imel?

  You just, well.

• 1:03:38Andrew Manganelli?

  What, what, how, what do you put it?

• 1:03:40David Imel?

  It's a coin battery.

• 1:03:41Speaker 02

  A watch battery.

• 1:03:42Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't own an AirTag.

• 1:03:43David Imel?

  Literally, like, AirTag is like a coin battery with a little casing on it. That's literally all it is.

• 1:03:48Andrew Manganelli?

  Swag.

• 1:03:48David Imel?

  It's pretty awesome.

• 1:03:49Speaker 02

  Four pack for a hundred bucks.

• 1:03:50Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm weirdly the most excited about Pixel Tag, out of everything here.

• 1:03:54David Imel?

  Yeah, well, the Moto Tag has already existed. The Moto Tag is good, too.

• 1:03:58Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:58Speaker 02

  So then, then there's the.

• 1:03:59Andrew Manganelli?

  But does it have highlight?

• 1:04:02Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:04:04Speaker 02

  Then there's the Watch, the Watch 5. The Watch 5 did get some interesting substantial improvements. Much more accurate GPS. They actually name dropped the Apple Watch Ultra and Garmin Phoenix on stage.

• 1:04:14David Imel?

  During the event.

• 1:04:14Speaker 02

  This is more accurate GPS than both of those.

• 1:04:16David Imel?

  Which was kind of crazy that they did that. Usually you don't name drop like that.

• 1:04:19Andrew Manganelli?

  We'll find out.

• 1:04:20Speaker 02

  They name dropped models. So it's a better, it is more expensive, but it is more accurate, it has more, more tracking, generally more data collection, but obviously for more accuracy, for all the health tracking stuff.

• 1:04:31David Imel?

  They said fifteen percent better sleep tracking, which, or more accurate sleep tracking, which is a really, really hard metric to actually contextualize. And that also makes me think, damn, how bad was the sleep tracking before?

• 1:04:44Andrew Manganelli?

  I guess like, what part of sleep tracking, like, falling asleep, waking up, REM?

• 1:04:49David Imel?

  I think that's probably what it is, the falling asleep and waking up parts, but.

• 1:04:52Speaker 02

  Whenever I read that, I just kind of read, they're sampling fifteen percent more frequently.

• 1:04:57David Imel?

  Maybe.

• 1:04:57Speaker 02

  Kind of what I assume is happening. I don't know how else you make the claim of fifteen percent more accurate.

• 1:05:01Andrew Manganelli?

  I mean, it might just be like, our algorithms to create this score is better in some way, I don't know.

• 1:05:10Speaker 02

  Maybe.

• 1:05:11Andrew Manganelli?

  It's mostly saying nothing.

• 1:05:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, design wise, it looks the same. It has a slightly higher clocked Snapdragon W5 Gen 2 chip inside.

• 1:05:21David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:21Speaker 02

  Better memory bandwidth, more on-device Gemini capabilities, which I know that you wanted in your watch.

• 1:05:27David Imel?

  Insulin resistance detection is their big new headline feature this year.

• 1:05:31Speaker 02

  Insulin resistance trends.

• 1:05:33Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:34Speaker 02

  Specifically, and what was the other trend? There was another trend.

• 1:05:36Andrew Manganelli?

  There's a blood pressure.

• 1:05:37David Imel?

  Blood pressure, oxygen levels.

• 1:05:40Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, so there's a.

• 1:05:41David Imel?

  Like breathing emergencies.

• 1:05:42Andrew Manganelli?

  Breathing emergencies was one of the other things for like, choking, toxic inhalations, or drug toxicity accidents. If they draw, if your oxygen drops, it can call emergency services.

• 1:05:51David Imel?

  Yeah, yeah. By the way, a friend of mine's dad got in a bike crash recently, and he got knocked out in the bike crash.

• 1:05:57Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh my god.

• 1:05:58David Imel?

  He had a Pixel Watch on, and it did call 911.

• 1:06:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh.

• 1:06:01David Imel?

  And it actually did help him.

• 1:06:02Speaker 02

  That's probably, so.

• 1:06:03Andrew Manganelli?

  Crash detection?

• 1:06:03David Imel?

  Yeah, crash detection, yeah.

• 1:06:04Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, that's cool.

• 1:06:05David Imel?

  So this stuff does work.

• 1:06:06Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:06David Imel?

  You know, that's why they use it in the ad every single year for the Apple Watch.

• 1:06:10Andrew Manganelli?

  They're about to ask you what is.

• 1:06:11David Imel?

  When the bear comes in your house, you know, the bear's in your house and your watch can call 911.

• 1:06:17Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, it was, uh, three gigs of RAM from two gigs, double storage, sixty-four.

• 1:06:21David Imel?

  Oh, so you can put more RAM in the watch, huh?

• 1:06:25Andrew Manganelli?

  For Gemini. I also.

• 1:06:27David Imel?

  How much is it, did we say?

• 1:06:28Speaker 02

  Three ninety-nine.

• 1:06:29David Imel?

  Three in the US.

• 1:06:30Speaker 05

  My god.

• 1:06:31Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, to give them credit, and I hope I'm right about this, just to leave it, and if I'm wrong, it's a little something, I think this is the first increase on Pixel Watch since the start. Price increase.

• 1:06:42Speaker 02

  Oh, price increase.

• 1:06:42Andrew Manganelli?

  So.

• 1:06:43Speaker 02

  I think so, yeah.

• 1:06:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Fine, five generations in and you raise it fifty bucks, I think?

• 1:06:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:49Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay. I don't think that's as bad in compared to all the other things.

• 1:06:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I agree. They're fine.

• 1:06:55David Imel?

  Yeah, three ninety-nine is in line, it feels like.

• 1:06:56Andrew Manganelli?

  Does it have highlight?

• 1:06:57Speaker 02

  It does not have highlight. It does also have blood pressure trend.

• 1:07:00Andrew Manganelli?

  No, it just, it just tells you who's calling. It's gonna do more than highlight.

• 1:07:05Speaker 02

  Screen.

• 1:07:07Speaker 02

  But yeah, that's, that's essentially it.

• 1:07:09David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:09Speaker 02

  Better fitness tool.

• 1:07:10David Imel?

  Oh, we also got a new color of Pixel Bud, and they're pushing an update to it, Pixel Bud Pro 2, which are really old now, and I don't know why they haven't released a Gen 3, I guess, because they just think that it's fine and they can make new software updates. Which is what they're doing. They're pushing a big software update, supposed to have better, and it has sleep detection now, so that when you fall asleep and music's listening, it'll like, pause and stuff like that. Has something, has something to do with like, matching up with your watch to do something as well, but.

• 1:07:38Speaker 05

  I thought the watch is what detects if you're asleep.

• 1:07:40David Imel?

  Maybe that was it.

• 1:07:41Speaker 05

  I think that was it.

• 1:07:42Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, and then pauses her music.

• 1:07:44David Imel?

  The buds had something.

• 1:07:45Speaker 05

  Were you paying attention?

• 1:07:47David Imel?

  It was 1 a.m. So I don't know. But yeah, I don't know, you don't need to buy new Pixel Buds, but they did have the new olive color, so. It's the same color as the Pixel Pro Green, so.

• 1:08:00Speaker 02

  Are any of us fall asleep with earbuds in?

• 1:08:03David Imel?

  Sometimes.

• 1:08:04Andrew Manganelli?

  Really?

• 1:08:05David Imel?

  I stay in. I live in the cellar, notably on the busiest street in my neighborhood, and sometimes there's construction that happens in the middle of the night, and it's really loud. Uh, I also have my AC running right above my face, and that can get annoying sometimes, so sometimes I do wear noise cancelling earbuds to fall asleep. I also use them on the plane to fall asleep.

• 1:08:26Andrew Manganelli?

  Same. So. Yeah, the plane is the big one for me.

• 1:08:28David Imel?

  They do not stay in.

• 1:08:29Andrew Manganelli?

  Really?

• 1:08:30David Imel?

  And then I lose them, and then I find them.

• 1:08:31Andrew Manganelli?

  Are you a side sleeper?

• 1:08:33David Imel?

  I, I sleep every direction. Sometimes I go backwards.

• 1:08:37Andrew Manganelli?

  I can't imagine.

• 1:08:37Speaker 02

  Rotatory sleep. I would lose those so fast.

• 1:08:40Speaker 05

  No, I'm a side sleeper. I sleep in them, not like every night, but if I'm somewhere loud, I'll use them as earplugs and they stay in all night.

• 1:08:45David Imel?

  Wow, you're, you're lucky.

• 1:08:46Speaker 02

  I'm a big like, white noise while sleeping person.

• 1:08:48David Imel?

  Are you?

• 1:08:49Speaker 02

  I slept, so I, I lived in Hoboken for five years, and my apartment there had, right outside, there was a bus stop, there was a hospital, so always got ambulances, blah blah, so I always just put a fan right in the window and just turned it all the way up, so I always fall asleep to that noise. Now, in a hotel like this, it's too quiet. I like, play white noise machine or something.

• 1:09:09David Imel?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:09:09Speaker 02

  I do so much better.

• 1:09:11Andrew Manganelli?

  Actually, I, no one cares, but I hate white noises, because we have to play it for, when Lane was a baby sleeping in our room, and now Owen, and I can't wait till the white noise machine goes.

• 1:09:18David Imel?

  You're more of a pink noise guy?

• 1:09:20Andrew Manganelli?

  More dead silence.

• 1:09:21Speaker 02

  Brown.

• 1:09:23Andrew Manganelli?

  Brown noise?

• 1:09:23Speaker 02

  Dead silence is crazy.

• 1:09:24David Imel?

  I love dead silence.

• 1:09:25Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:26David Imel?

  Better than live silence.

• 1:09:27Speaker 02

  I can't. Actually, you know what's funny? This is so off topic. Okay, I had, I had a, this is so stupid. My, I had a Spotify, I just looked up like, rain sounds, there's like a fifty track like, rain sounds thing that I was playing.

• 1:09:40David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  So like, last night, we're super jet lagged, I started the rain sounds thing, and then I went to sleep, and then I woke up, and the rain sounds had stopped playing, and I was like, that's weird, it stopped playing, so I went over to turn it on, and right before I turned it on, the shower just started like, making

• 1:10:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh.

• 1:10:00Speaker 02

  noise of like, random water coming out of it.

• 1:10:04Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:05Speaker 02

  And I was like.

• 1:10:05Andrew Manganelli?

  My shirt had that, too.

• 1:10:06Speaker 02

  The hell's go, like, I was about to play water sounds, but then.

• 1:10:09Andrew Manganelli?

  A little after.

• 1:10:10Speaker 02

  Water, I was freaked out for like, five minutes, I was like, who is in this room right now? Who turned off my water and made water?

• 1:10:16Speaker 05

  So none of you guys watch YouTube ever to fall asleep?

• 1:10:20Speaker 02

  I've never.

• 1:10:21David Imel?

  I do.

• 1:10:22Andrew Manganelli?

  I always turn it off.

• 1:10:23David Imel?

  I use the sleep timer.

• 1:10:23Speaker 05

  Okay, the autoplay algorithm, when you're sleeping?

• 1:10:27David Imel?

  It's crazy.

• 1:10:27Andrew Manganelli?

  Landshow.

• 1:10:27Speaker 05

  Completely different.

• 1:10:29David Imel?

  It's, yeah.

• 1:10:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, dude, they will show you things that you did not even know.

• 1:10:34Andrew Manganelli?

  There's a really good Reply All episode, where, spoiler alert, this person was playing like, white noise, but it happened to be this one, like, white noise thing they got, had like, footsteps, and then like, a person like, mumbling, so the, the person was living in the like, basement of a house and thought someone had broken in in the middle of the night, and like, freaked out, yeah.

• 1:10:54David Imel?

  Yes, that would freak me out. One more slight tangent.

• 1:10:58Andrew Manganelli?

  While we're here.

• 1:10:59David Imel?

  My friend is a musician and makes decent money in his band, with his band, it's a full-time job.

• 1:11:04Speaker 05

  Dude, shut up about Streetlight Manifesto.

• 1:11:06David Imel?

  That's not. They do not make decent money.

• 1:11:10Speaker 05

  I'm sorry, David.

• 1:11:10David Imel?

  He probably makes more money than they do. Anyway. And he recently, a few months ago, started making like, ambient sleep music to go to sleep to, and he's put out like, five ambient sleep albums.

• 1:11:23Speaker 02

  It's probably a good hack.

• 1:11:24David Imel?

  He said he makes like, thirty to fifty thousand a month.

• 1:11:28Speaker 02

  It's like.

• 1:11:29David Imel?

  With ambient sleep music, but he's like, I know for a fact that Spotify in the next like, year is just going to start AI generating all this music, because why would they give that money away to other people when they could have it for themselves? And it is the, it is the easiest like, money hack ever. Anyway, yeah. His ambient sleep music is good, I actually use it, so.

• 1:11:49Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh.

• 1:11:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, he doesn't need a plug, he's making plenty of money.

• 1:11:52David Imel?

  Well, I'm not plugging, I'm not plugging, I didn't even say.

• 1:11:54Andrew Manganelli?

  Listen to Waveform when you're sleeping.

• 1:11:56David Imel?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, which, okay, one more slight tangent. I had a friend tell me that, the, the YouTube algorithm, he falls asleep to YouTube every night, and every single night he wakes up, and it's playing our Halloween episode from last year. And it's always the Halloween episode, and he always wakes up and finishes it. He said it's every night.

• 1:12:20Speaker 02

  He probably recited as he's gone.

• 1:12:21David Imel?

  It's crazy, I know, I know.

• 1:12:23Speaker 02

  That's amazing.

• 1:12:24David Imel?

  Anyway.

• 1:12:24Speaker 05

  The one where I'm a minion?

• 1:12:26David Imel?

  Uh, it was the, it was the, it was the year before this last year.

• 1:12:30Speaker 05

  Oh, the Hamburglar.

• 1:12:31David Imel?

  Yeah, it was when I was a large language model.

• 1:12:33Andrew Manganelli?

  You were.

• 1:12:34Speaker 02

  I might have been dressed.

• 1:12:35Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, no, no, no. I don't think you were there, and we made you a zombie in the thumbnail, and people called it Clickbait, because it was a joke that you were sick, I think, and people were really mad you weren't in the episode.

• 1:12:47Speaker 02

  That's really funny.

• 1:12:48David Imel?

  All right, well, we really have to take a break, and then we got to talk about some new software stuff, because I really want to ramble about, about camera stuff.

• 1:12:55Speaker 02

  Which means it's time for tensor, I mean, trivia.

• 1:13:00David Imel?

  There you go. Notable delay. Tensor trivia.

• 1:13:03Andrew Manganelli?

  Trivia, dude. So, we spoke about highlight earlier. Marques, stop looking at my tablet. We still got the highlight feature, which is the new Google way of letting you see that you got notifications on your, on your Pixel phone.

• 1:13:15Speaker 02

  Uh, notification.

• 1:13:16David Imel?

  No, not notification.

• 1:13:17Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, you're right. Notification.

• 1:13:19David Imel?

  Notification.

• 1:13:20Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah. Uh, but HTC already solved this years ago with a case that protected the screen.

• 1:13:25David Imel?

  Oh, yeah?

• 1:13:26Andrew Manganelli?

  Do you remember what this feature was called?

• 1:13:29Speaker 02

  What was it called?

• 1:13:30Andrew Manganelli?

  What was it called?

• 1:13:31Speaker 02

  I made a whole video about this.

• 1:13:32David Imel?

  Yes, you did.

• 1:13:33Speaker 02

  Oh, no. And I was in Barcelona when I made that video.

• 1:13:35Andrew Manganelli?

  Really?

• 1:13:36David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:37Andrew Manganelli?

  Which is also in Spain.

• 1:13:38Speaker 02

  In Spain.

• 1:13:39Andrew Manganelli?

  Wow.

• 1:13:40David Imel?

  Very topical.

• 1:13:41Speaker 02

  I wish I remembered the name.

• 1:13:42David Imel?

  I have an idea.

• 1:13:43Speaker 02

  I could describe it in such detail.

• 1:13:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:45David Imel?

  It was cool.

• 1:13:46Speaker 02

  The details include that name.

• 1:13:47Andrew Manganelli?

  It was dots.

• 1:13:48Speaker 02

  That's a great word. I'm glad you said that.

• 1:13:50David Imel?

  No.

• 1:13:51Speaker 02

  In the name, for sure. That's for sure in the name.

• 1:13:53Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, okay. I was gonna say, mad I gave you a hint, but I didn't know, so I may have inadvertently given myself a hint.

• 1:13:58Speaker 02

  What's the other word? It's like a portm-.

• 1:14:00David Imel?

  Was that like a Halloween candy joke? Cause Marques likes dots.

• 1:14:02Andrew Manganelli?

  Marques does.

• 1:14:03Speaker 02

  I love dots.

• 1:14:04Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, David's friend knows.

• 1:14:05Speaker 02

  This will make much more sense when we hear the answer.

• 1:14:08Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:09Speaker 02

  Okay. All right. We'll either learn something new or remember something incredible at the end. We'll be right back.

• 1:14:15David Imel?

  Like the HTC Incredible 2.

• 1:14:17Andrew Manganelli?

  Wow, callback.

• 1:14:18David Imel?

  Thanks.

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• 1:15:49Speaker 02

  Okay, welcome back. We do have, believe it or not, some software to talk about from the Google event. One last segment here. Uh, do we have any favorites? We want any like highlights from the?

• 1:16:00David Imel?

  Don't do it, Marques.

• 1:16:01Speaker 02

  Sorry, that's a pun. I meant to say any things that we think are worth talking about.

• 1:16:07David Imel?

  Yes.

• 1:16:08Speaker 02

  Software.

• 1:16:09David Imel?

  Yes.

• 1:16:10Speaker 02

  Go on.

• 1:16:11David Imel?

  So I have a few camera things I want to talk about.

• 1:16:12Speaker 02

  Go on.

• 1:16:13David Imel?

  Okay. Google added a thing called Camera Looks.

• 1:16:15Speaker 02

  I saw this.

• 1:16:17David Imel?

  Yes. So, Camera Looks is kind of like the Fujifilm film simulations in a lot of ways. I did an interview with Isaac Reynolds, uh, Google Pixel Camera Chief. Uh, last time I interviewed him was for the Pixel 4, so it's been a while.

• 1:16:33Speaker 02

  That was their prime.

• 1:16:35David Imel?

  It was their prime. It was, well, except for the whole solely thing, we don't talk about that.

• 1:16:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:40David Imel?

  Um, yeah. But, but at the time, when I interviewed him in 2019, it was wild because his, their whole mentality at Google was if you are tapping anything on the screen except for the shutter button, it is error. That's what he told me in 2019. All input is error. The Elon approach.

• 1:16:57Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:16:58David Imel?

  All inputs are. This year, notably extremely different. Um, there are so many settings now in the Pixel camera. You have Pro modes, you have like manual settings, you got everything. But there's this new mode now called Camera Looks. Camera Looks, uh, there are four defaults for sort of like the original camera look. And then you have Vanilla, which makes it a little more kind of like warmer. And then there's a classic, I don't know, there's a few primary, and then there's a bunch of basically film simulations. So you've got the Digicam simulation.

• 1:17:28Speaker 02

  Oh, it has these built into?

• 1:17:29David Imel?

  Yeah, it's also built in, called Digi. Um, there's a minimal one, which basically removes. So, okay, the coolest thing about all of this is that the way that they are doing this is that they are doing less computational photography dynamically, but in the most Google way possible, depending on the settings that you change with the contrast and the options that you pick, because you basically pick one of these film modes, like the Digicam mode, whatever. And then you can change settings like contrast, you can change settings like sharpness, like all of these things. Depending on the settings you change, the processing will dynamically do less HDR or less sharpness, things like that.

• 1:18:11David Imel?

  So, when you do, you know, when you're taking an HDR photo, it's compositing a bunch of sampled frames on top of each other to give you better noise reduction, things like that. And the Google camera team is very, very sure that this is the best possible way to make a photo. I disagree. And apparently a lot of people have disagreed because now they have this Camera Looks thing. And now, when you take a photo with one of these modes, it's using less samples to actually have less sharpness, make it a little bit softer, make it have a little bit less, uh, less detail in the shadows, things like that.

• 1:18:45Speaker 02

  Imperfections.

• 1:18:46David Imel?

  Imperfections. They are using machine learning to dynamically give you less perfect photos, which is the most-

• 1:18:54Andrew Manganelli?

  But only in these modes, right?

• 1:18:55David Imel?

  But only in these modes.

• 1:18:56Andrew Manganelli?

  Not like by the default camera?

• 1:18:57David Imel?

  No, the default camera's the same.

• 1:18:58Andrew Manganelli?

  Can set it as a default, though?

• 1:18:59David Imel?

  You can set four modes as the default, annoyingly. This is very annoying. You can't set like the Digi simulation as the default. You can only set, the only defaults you can set are like the Vanilla, the like minimal, there's four options.

• 1:19:12Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay.

• 1:19:13David Imel?

  And then there's a bunch of film options. But it's the most Google thing in the world to use machine learning to dynamically decide how much computational photography they should be doing at all. Um, so that's very funny. And I think it's really cool, uh, because what's been people, it's what people have been asking for for a long time. It's clearly a direct reaction to people using a lot of third-party camera apps that give you these features. Um, so that's pretty great. I think it's nice.

• 1:19:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's good. I will definitely be messing with these. Um, it almost opens a can of worms into a much bigger conversation, which is, I'm not gonna do it, so don't take the bait.

• 1:19:50Andrew Manganelli?

  Don't do it.

• 1:19:51Speaker 02

  But are we at peak smartphone if like, most of what we're trying to do with new smartphone cameras is give them some imperfections back?

• 1:20:00David Imel?

  Yes.

• 1:20:01Speaker 02

  But don't take the bait, don't, well, that's another episode.

• 1:20:03David Imel?

  Okay.

• 1:20:04Speaker 02

  We'll do that.

• 1:20:05David Imel?

  That is a, that is a great separate episode, but-

• 1:20:06Andrew Manganelli?

  One hour later.

• 1:20:07David Imel?

  I do think it's amazing that we're making cameras worse because they are too perfect. And Isaac Reynolds was like, no, we, like, we've, we've solved the camera. Um, which sure, if you want it to look like ass, but you know. Anyway, so-

• 1:20:21Speaker 02

  Other end of the camera spectrum.

• 1:20:22David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:23Speaker 02

  Uh, cause I noticed there was a lot more, when I was doing my hands-on, there's a lot more buttons in the camera mode.

• 1:20:26David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:27Speaker 02

  Another one, when you slide over to the left, is just this Magic Capture feature.

• 1:20:30David Imel?

  Yes.

• 1:20:31Speaker 02

  Which is, and they showed it at the event as well. All you do is, again, this is about living in the moment, so don't even bother snapping photos and videos. Whatever's happening in front of you, just open up Magic Capture and start it and point it at the scene. And then, whatever happens, happens. And at the end, Google's Magic Capture will have decided on some photo frames and some videos to capture for you that are the best, the highlights from that scene.

• 1:20:57David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:58Speaker 02

  And they give some examples, which are interesting. I think, uh, a nice example would be like, I don't know, a solar eclipse is happening in front of you or something. And instead of like pointing your phone at it in front of your face, you should just like enjoy the thing in front of you. And so just start a Magic Capture and whatever it decides is happening.

• 1:21:17David Imel?

  Okay.

• 1:21:18Speaker 02

  It'll capture it. But the example they used was much more action-packed. It was like people playing basketball in front of you, uh, different poses, different, you know, people looking at the camera versus not looking. It will smartly take tons and tons of frames, sift it down, pick the best ones and give it to you.

• 1:21:32David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:33Speaker 02

  Magic.

• 1:21:34David Imel?

  Yeah. You sold, you sold me on that feature. When, at first I was like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

• 1:21:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know that.

• 1:21:38David Imel?

  You kind of-

• 1:21:39Speaker 02

  It's funny, cause in the keynote, they, the example, they had a lot, they said it was a live demo. Their example was that he was at a basketball game, and he's like, you want to live in the moment. So he has his phone just recording while he's watching the game. I've tried doing this before and it's really hard. If you're not looking at the screen, your hand kind of-

• 1:21:56Andrew Manganelli?

  This is where you lost me.

• 1:21:57Speaker 02

  Your hand kind of just drifts.

• 1:21:59David Imel?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:22:00Speaker 02

  And it's really difficult.

• 1:22:01Andrew Manganelli?

  You gotta keep them in frame.

• 1:22:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:03Andrew Manganelli?

  Hard. You're not in the moment, things still need to be in frame. I don't-

• 1:22:06Speaker 02

  You need to keep looking at your phone. It's difficult.

• 1:22:08David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:09Speaker 02

  It's notably very difficult.

• 1:22:10David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:11Speaker 02

  So we're gonna have to really try that out. What I found very interesting is that it's one of the three modes now, cause previously you had, you had, uh, photo mode and video mode.

• 1:22:20David Imel?

  Yes.

• 1:22:21Speaker 02

  Now there's photo, video, and Magic Capture.

• 1:22:22David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:23Speaker 02

  It's like-

• 1:22:24David Imel?

  That's the first thing I noticed when I opened my camera.

• 1:22:25Speaker 02

  Right up there.

• 1:22:26David Imel?

  I was like, wow, a new button? This must be a big deal.

• 1:22:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:29David Imel?

  And it's just Magic Capture.

• 1:22:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. Which, I think is interesting.

• 1:22:32David Imel?

  But, um-

• 1:22:33Andrew Manganelli?

  I could see it being useful for like, uh, the group photo that you have to put the camera down and go on the timer. And then every time you go back and someone blinks, you just like throw a Magic Capture on. Everyone get in and grab a frame.

• 1:22:41Speaker 02

  Or, or give a tripod. And you, you frame the video first and then you hit Magic Capture, and then you go do the thing. I don't know, you want to be in front of your daughter as she's blowing the candles out of her cake. You don't, you don't want to be like the Vision Pro guy, who's like doing this, like filming her, you know? Which is incredible.

• 1:22:59David Imel?

  Um, that's in the moment, technically, I guess, just through a screen.

• 1:23:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:04David Imel?

  Um, so there are some uses for it. It's gonna be interesting to see if it actually works.

• 1:23:08Andrew Manganelli?

  You took it out of my mouth, though, because I was gonna say, isn't this just video?

• 1:23:10David Imel?

  It's video, but, so it's Google Clips.

• 1:23:14Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 1:23:15David Imel?

  If, if you guys don't know what this was, many years ago, Google sold a small clip-on camera. You could either just like put it in the corner and mount it somewhere, but the whole point was it would, it was a little clip-on camera that you'd clip to things, and it would just record for like two hours or whatever. And it would just find random frames throughout the day when it noticed you were smiling or whatever, and it would send you like these updates of like, oh, look at all these photos of you and your family having a happy time. Now, I don't think we would ever put a camera made by Google in our, in our houses that were constantly recording. Uh, but this is effectively what Magic Capture does, which is funny. Um, at least you are manually turning it on instead of just letting it do its thing whenever you, whenever it wants.

• 1:23:58Andrew Manganelli?

  I think it sounds useful and fun. I just don't believe the live in the moment, because then you're just gonna get a bunch of videos of people's feet in the ground.

• 1:24:07David Imel?

  Yeah, unless you have a tripod or something.

• 1:24:09Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:10David Imel?

  Or that's what you're going for.

• 1:24:11Speaker 02

  That's, you know?

• 1:24:12David Imel?

  Hey. Wait. Um.

• 1:24:14Speaker 05

  Their own.

• 1:24:14David Imel?

  Okay, I have a really, really crazy, what is a photo slash what is a video thing.

• 1:24:20Speaker 05

  Oh, no, David. We can't do an hour on this.

• 1:24:22David Imel?

  You don't have to.

• 1:24:23Speaker 02

  This is a small can of worms or a medium can of worms?

• 1:24:25David Imel?

  We can make it small for now, but you, I want you to chew on it and later we'll talk about it again.

• 1:24:30Speaker 02

  All right.

• 1:24:31David Imel?

  Okay, so they haven't, so if you remember, um, there's now, there is a mode where you can upload your footage to the cloud. And it will do a bunch of things like upscaling it to 8K and.

• 1:24:43Speaker 05

  Boost?

• 1:24:43David Imel?

  Video boost and it makes the low, low light video, it will like brighten the shadows and do all this stuff. Because that's to run on Google's tensor cores in their server centers, whatever. Um, still a really weird thing that you would do that. And it's like, I guess you're just doing it with the, the videos you want to. And it takes up a lot of storage, et cetera. There's a new thing in it inside of video boost called a pro stable video. And this is basically optimizing the stabilization of your video. So if you're walking, you know, you're running, whatever, it'll, it'll stabilize it. If it thinks it needs stabilization, what it is actually doing, this is so crazy, is that every frame in the video,

• 1:25:24David Imel?

  it is using uh, as information for a Gaussian splatting 3D model.

• 1:25:30Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 1:25:30David Imel?

  So it builds a 3D model of the scene. And it uses every frame to then Gaussian splat the scene, which is a relatively new technology. Where you basically create 3D stuff out of 2D images, uh, based on micro camera shake and things like that. Because you're seeing around the pixels, et cetera. And um, what it does after it creates the 3D model of your scene, it then creates a virtual camera track inside of the scene that flies the camera through. And um, and.

• 1:26:03Speaker 02

  Are you kidding me?

• 1:26:03David Imel?

  I'm not kidding you. And then they told me that they actually had to add some camera shake back. Because it just looked like a literal drone shot and people felt uncomfortable with it. So they have to, they had to add artificial camera shake a little bit back to make it seem like it wasn't. So now my, like, what's crazy is like, because it's using your frames as reference material for the 3D model for the whatever. You're still technically getting the same video back, but there is a 3D model of your scene that a virtual camera is flying through. And what you're getting back is.

• 1:26:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:26:38David Imel?

  Kind of a 3D render of reality.

• 1:26:41Speaker 02

  Heavy mix of reality and, and interpreted things.

• 1:26:45David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:46Speaker 05

  Huh. Can, can we just appreciate that Google can take a video, 3D map every single frame?

• 1:26:52David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:53Speaker 05

  Create a fake camera, track you.

• 1:26:56David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:56Speaker 05

  Add shake back to make it look good.

• 1:26:58David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:59Speaker 05

  And the **** RGB light on the back. Five colors and can only do calls.

• 1:27:04David Imel?

  Yeah. And one of them is white.

• 1:27:06Speaker 05

  What planet do we live on?

• 1:27:08David Imel?

  I know. No, this, this is just the most like, what even is a video anymore?

• 1:27:14Speaker 05

  Oh no.

• 1:27:14David Imel?

  Like you're giving me a 3D and basically, it's almost like I'm getting a 3D animation back of the reality that I captured.

• 1:27:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, that is very Google. Okay, I will chew on that. I'm gonna try that as well.

• 1:27:24Speaker 05

  I'm gonna pretend that never happened.

• 1:27:26David Imel?

  It's, it's so crazy.

• 1:27:28Speaker 05

  I can't wait to see it.

• 1:27:29David Imel?

  They said that they only.

• 1:27:30Speaker 05

  The Samsung and the Apple one's already really good.

• 1:27:31David Imel?

  Yeah, they said they only do the pro stable video when it thinks it needs it. So you can't force it, which is annoying.

• 1:27:38Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:27:38David Imel?

  So I think you should like go on a run with your phone or something.

• 1:27:41Speaker 02

  Sprint down the street. Yeah.

• 1:27:42David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:42Speaker 02

  I'm gonna try it.

• 1:27:43David Imel?

  Yeah, we gotta like force it.

• 1:27:44Speaker 05

  Samsung stabilization though is pretty good.

• 1:27:47David Imel?

  Different.

• 1:27:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, it doesn't do this.

• 1:27:48Speaker 02

  You can flip your camera. It has EIS and OIS combined and it'll do as best as it can with the information. And it'll like crop in, so it has way more room to do the stabilization.

• 1:27:58David Imel?

  But you'll see that it's. This is the most Google thing in the world. It's like use software to just completely eliminate the need for hardware.

• 1:28:05Speaker 02

  Whoever thought of that was like, how many tons of chips we got?

• 1:28:07David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:08Speaker 02

  An idea.

• 1:28:08David Imel?

  Gaussian splatting is a new, uh, rapidly evolving technology. What if we just? Really took advantage of it.

• 1:28:15Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:28:15David Imel?

  So.

• 1:28:16Speaker 05

  So crazy.

• 1:28:16David Imel?

  I think that's just crazy. I just wanted to talk about that.

• 1:28:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:28:19David Imel?

  That's the main stuff. So.

• 1:28:21Speaker 02

  The future, the rest of the features on the phones themselves is Android 17s. Like you've seen this on.

• 1:28:24David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:24Speaker 02

  Pixels, like there's not that much stuff that I saw on the Pixel 17s that I tested that I was like, oh, this is definitely not coming to the pixels.

• 1:28:31David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:32Speaker 02

  From last year.

• 1:28:32David Imel?

  Yeah, that's the big question and that people keep asking me about too. Cause there's another feature called Creator Suite that is also in the video.

• 1:28:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:28:39David Imel?

  In the video section.

• 1:28:40Speaker 02

  Built in.

• 1:28:41David Imel?

  It's built into the pixels only right now. We'll see if it comes to Android 17 later. Because for some reason, they added the like TikTok cutout reactions feature to Android. But the Creator Suite is a section in the video sec, it's a part of the video section that gives you a teleprompter. It gives you uh, audio enhancement features. It gives you uh, frame guides for like, if you're doing nine by six, you can pick your aspect ratio.

• 1:29:08Speaker 02

  Social media.

• 1:29:09David Imel?

  And.

• 1:29:09Speaker 02

  UI guide.

• 1:29:10David Imel?

  Yeah. My take on this is that they were, they're trying to capture the use, the UGC crowd, which is user, user generated content. It's the people that are like opening 20 boxes a day and just making like fake ads.

• 1:29:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:29:21David Imel?

  Um, that's a growing huge amount of people, by the way. So I think that Google really wants to capture those people, but.

• 1:29:27Speaker 02

  Teleprompter works pretty good. I'm not.

• 1:29:29David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's. Teleprompter, you just input and you can speech to text, whatever. You can input a couple paragraphs of whatever. And then you start recording with the feature on and it hears you. So it can advance the teleprompter as you speak and it was.

• 1:29:42David Imel?

  Which is Google's bread and butter, like.

• 1:29:43Speaker 02

  Great.

• 1:29:44David Imel?

  Voice dictation, understanding your voice.

• 1:29:46Speaker 05

  Wait, we should use that for the.

• 1:29:47Speaker 02

  I was just thinking of that, yeah. If we were to record our ads on a pixel.

• 1:29:51David Imel?

  On a pixel.

• 1:29:52Speaker 02

  It would look.

• 1:29:52Speaker 05

  We'll just, we'll.

• 1:29:53Speaker 02

  Great.

• 1:29:53Speaker 05

  Can we not just like put it in the, the tray of the two-way mirror and then just have it advance?

• 1:29:59Speaker 02

  Also.

• 1:29:59Speaker 05

  I don't know if it would hear as well.

• 1:30:00Speaker 02

  That feature, yes, would work well. No, it'd hear you. I guess the, the idea is it's showing that text at the top of the display, right under the selfie camera.

• 1:30:08David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:09Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 1:30:09David Imel?

  So it looks like you're looking at it.

• 1:30:10Speaker 02

  Looks like you're making eye contact, but you're reading.

• 1:30:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm vibe coding this for the iPad.

• 1:30:16Speaker 02

  I'm surprised, it probably exists. There's probably a way to advance the teleprompter based on talking.

• 1:30:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm tired of standing up.

• 1:30:21Speaker 02

  Yeah. For those who don't know, we've been manually advancing our ads.

• 1:30:25Speaker 05

  Like everyone has done since the history of time.

• 1:30:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:30:28Speaker 05

  Caveman manually advanced.

• 1:30:30Speaker 02

  This is perfect for AI, perfect for AI.

• 1:30:32David Imel?

  Yeah, so.

• 1:30:33Speaker 02

  Yeah. Otherwise it's, it's a pixel.

• 1:30:35David Imel?

  Yeah, otherwise it's pixel. I just wanted to talk about those software features.

• 1:30:38Speaker 05

  Pixel by the Pixel 10.

• 1:30:40David Imel?

  The big question, the huge, huge question in the room that I, for some reason, didn't think to ask, which was really obvious, is like, what? Which of these features are coming to Pixel 10? If any?

• 1:30:51Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:30:51David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:52Speaker 05

  Well, they're not gonna have answered that question.

• 1:30:53David Imel?

  That's probably true.

• 1:30:54Speaker 02

  Yeah. What they will say is either.

• 1:30:56David Imel?

  We have no, we have no plans.

• 1:30:58Speaker 05

  Crack at it by the Pixel 11.

• 1:30:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, if you want it now, Pixel 11.

• 1:31:01David Imel?

  Or we have no plan.

• 1:31:02Speaker 02

  We have no future plans or we do not disclose future plans.

• 1:31:05David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:06Speaker 02

  Or they'll say something like for the messaging feature for highlight, they'll be like, eh, we will work on this.

• 1:31:12David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:13Speaker 02

  And then you'll go, okay, when's that gonna happen?

• 1:31:17Speaker 02

  We'll see.

• 1:31:18David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:19David Imel?

  So, yeah, I don't know. I like all those features, but if they come to the Pixel 10, it's almost like.

• 1:31:24Speaker 05

  I like them a lot more.

• 1:31:24David Imel?

  What is this phone?

• 1:31:25Speaker 05

  Pixel 10.

• 1:31:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, but does it have matte black rails?

• 1:31:28David Imel?

  That's true. Just get some spray paint, Marquez, that's fine.

• 1:31:32Speaker 05

  You're gonna give up your insane battery life for matte black rails?

• 1:31:35Speaker 02

  No, I do. The one plus 15 is still.

• 1:31:37David Imel?

  You can charge it 1500 watts, it's fine.

• 1:31:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, that phone is killer. You're just charging it 2000.

• 1:31:42Speaker 05

  16 in the United States?

• 1:31:44Speaker 02

  I want the one plus 15 with the pixels, camera chops and some of the software features.

• 1:31:53David Imel?

  I don't even think the.

• 1:31:54Speaker 02

  It's not gonna happen. Um, anyway.

• 1:31:58David Imel?

  Anyway.

• 1:31:58Speaker 02

  It's gonna happen, so.

• 1:31:59David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:59Speaker 02

  I think we should go right to the end, which is our last segment. Trivia.

• 1:32:05Speaker 05

  My laptop was muted.

• 1:32:07David Imel?

  Do it again.

• 1:32:10Speaker 02

  We're back, we're so back.

• 1:32:14Speaker 02

  I'm never gonna forget this podcast.

• 1:32:16David Imel?

  This is crazy.

• 1:32:18Speaker 05

  Question number one, Trevor Noah was surprised by Liverpool legend Steven Gerrard. But before Mr. Gerrard came out, Trevor wondered if it was actually him or Gemini speaking in what regional English accent? Wait, are we shouting it out?

• 1:32:36David Imel?

  Oh, yeah, wait, wait.

• 1:32:39Speaker 05

  Do we want?

• 1:32:42Speaker 02

  Liverpools.

• 1:32:43Speaker 05

  Hold on.

• 1:32:44Speaker 02

  We could slag on it.

• 1:32:46Speaker 05

  Do we want to do a rapid or, or do we wanna slack it to me?

• 1:32:51Speaker 02

  I think that's the whiteboard.

• 1:32:53Speaker 05

  I think you're the only one that knows the answer, Marquez.

• 1:32:55Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:32:55Speaker 05

  He knows the answer?

• 1:32:56Speaker 02

  I might know the answer.

• 1:32:58Speaker 05

  How confident do you feel, David? How confident do you feel, Andrew? Are you gonna say Cockney? No, I'm starting to worry it's not a British accent.

• 1:33:07David Imel?

  What you're gonna say?

• 1:33:08Speaker 05

  I don't know. Wait, can we? David, are you gonna submit an answer? All right, Andrew Marquez, on three, say what you're thinking. One, two, three.

• 1:33:16David Imel?

  Liverley.

• 1:33:17Speaker 05

  Neither of you says.

• 1:33:18Speaker 02

  Dang.

• 1:33:19Speaker 05

  Were they reasonable? What did you say? Welsh. No. Uh, you're closer. I think. Counts, points. I think this accent derives from a Welsh accent, but it is. Would Welsh people be really mad that I said that? Or would Liverpool people be really mad that I said that? I don't know. Would Trevor Noah be really mad that I said that? I don't think so.

• 1:33:43Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:33:43David Imel?

  With the football.

• 1:33:44Speaker 05

  Marquez, you said. That's all I cared about.

• 1:33:45Speaker 02

  I said Gaelic.

• 1:33:46Speaker 05

  No, that is not correct. Um, Gaelic is a whole language that is not English.

• 1:33:51David Imel?

  Yeah, whoops.

• 1:33:51Speaker 05

  Um, David, you wanna just throw something out there, man?

• 1:33:54Speaker 02

  He did. Liverpools.

• 1:33:57Speaker 05

  Uh, that is technically correct, although not the word I was looking for. The word I was looking for was Scouse. Yeah, you know, Scouse.

• 1:34:07David Imel?

  I, he said that?

• 1:34:08Speaker 02

  I have heard that.

• 1:34:09Speaker 05

  In the event, he said, is that Steven, is that Liverpool legend Steven Gerrard? Or is that Gemini speaking with a Scouse accent?

• 1:34:16David Imel?

  I think I'm gonna get the next one, right?

• 1:34:18Speaker 02

  I told you we would learn something new.

• 1:34:19Speaker 05

  All right, question number two.

• 1:34:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:34:21Speaker 05

  Uh, HTC had a case that would cover the screen of their phone.

• 1:34:27Andrew Manganelli?

  And show you little notification graphics and stuff underneath. What was it called?

• 1:34:30David Imel?

  Should we yell it out?

• 1:34:32Andrew Manganelli?

  No, slack it to me because I don't like it when you all yell because I can't hear.

• 1:34:36Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:34:37Andrew Manganelli?

  No.

• 1:34:37Speaker 02

  Slack it to Ellis or Adam?

• 1:34:39Andrew Manganelli?

  Me.

• 1:34:40Speaker 02

  Um.

• 1:34:42Andrew Manganelli?

  Also, there's no way to like, if I have you guys do it one at a time, then

• 1:34:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:34:46Andrew Manganelli?

  It kind of defeats the purpose.

• 1:34:48Speaker 02

  I think it's that, but I

• 1:34:51Speaker 02

  I'm pretty sure I'm right. I think I'm right.

• 1:34:53Andrew Manganelli?

  All right.

• 1:34:55Andrew Manganelli?

  Let's go around the room. David, what did you say?

• 1:34:57Speaker 02

  Dot Matrix.

• 1:34:58Andrew Manganelli?

  Dot Matrix. Andrew?

• 1:35:02Andrew Manganelli?

  I wrote quick dots. Quick dots. I only wrote dots because Marquez said dots.

• 1:35:06Speaker 02

  I wrote dot matrix.

• 1:35:08Andrew Manganelli?

  Dot Matrix.

• 1:35:09Speaker 02

  Definitely.

• 1:35:09Andrew Manganelli?

  The answer is

• 1:35:12Andrew Manganelli?

  dot view.

• 1:35:13David Imel?

  Really?

• 1:35:13Speaker 02

  Wow, dot view?

• 1:35:14Andrew Manganelli?

  Dot view.

• 1:35:15Speaker 02

  So is that the name of the tech?

• 1:35:16Andrew Manganelli?

  Very close.

• 1:35:16Speaker 02

  But it was a dot matrix case.

• 1:35:17Andrew Manganelli?

  I believe so, yes.

• 1:35:18David Imel?

  Oh, the case was called the dot matrix case.

• 1:35:20Andrew Manganelli?

  Itself was a dot.

• 1:35:21David Imel?

  I I knew that. That's why I thought.

• 1:35:24Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, no one got any points.

• 1:35:25Speaker 02

  Well.

• 1:35:26Andrew Manganelli?

  Marquez still with one, Andrew with three, David with three.

• 1:35:30Speaker 05

  Marquez's video on this is really short. This is a four minute Marquez.

• 1:35:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, it was just a case.

• 1:35:35Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, the dot view case? It was a feature of the dot matrix?

• 1:35:38Speaker 02

  It was, by the way, this is

• 1:35:39Andrew Manganelli?

  One of them.

• 1:35:39Speaker 02

  That is the one of the first like three videos I ever shot on a red camera.

• 1:35:46Andrew Manganelli?

  Really?

• 1:35:47Speaker 02

  I think it's actually the first one I ever shot on a red camera because it was a rented red scarlet. And it was the first video I ever published in in real 4K, first video I ever shot in RAW, first video I ever shot in Spain, and first video I ever shot in Mobile World Congress.

• 1:36:03Speaker 05

  Wait, this is cool.

• 1:36:05Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, I remember a lot of stuff.

• 1:36:06Speaker 02

  No, no, no, sorry, sorry, sorry. That's not in Spain. That case I shot in my college. Um, I first got it in Spain and brought it back to my apartment. So it was on the red, but it was not in Spain.

• 1:36:17Andrew Manganelli?

  It is dot view, by the way.

• 1:36:18Speaker 02

  Dot view.

• 1:36:18Andrew Manganelli?

  Dot view, yeah.

• 1:36:19Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:36:19Speaker 05

  This is sick as hell.

• 1:36:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, right. And if you managed to screen record what was happening on the screen, it was just a bunch of blobs.

• 1:36:26Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:36:27Speaker 02

  But it was it was a really clever feature. Anyway.

• 1:36:29Speaker 05

  The phones.

• 1:36:31Andrew Manganelli?

  Phones used to be cool.

• 1:36:32Speaker 05

  Dude, we've gone so far backwards. It can't do red.

• 1:36:38Speaker 02

  And that is the end of the podcast. Thank you for watching. Obviously, stay tuned and get subscribed if you haven't already because the reason we are in this hotel room is because we shot this crazy other podcast that is in the works. So stay tuned for it. It's amazing. I can't over promise, but I I really think it's amazing.

• 1:36:52Andrew Manganelli?

  He's over promising?

• 1:36:53Speaker 02

  It's so good. Um, but, uh, yeah, well, otherwise catch you very soon in our regularly scheduled programming. So see you then.

• 1:37:03David Imel?

  My head hurts.

• 1:37:04Speaker 02

  Peace.

• 1:37:04Andrew Manganelli?

  Wait, from is produced by Adam Malina and Eclipse Rovin. We are partners with Vox Media Podcast Network and our intro outro music was created by Vane Still.

• 1:37:11David Imel?

  Eclipse!

• 1:37:12Speaker 02

  Not be a point.

• 1:37:12Andrew Manganelli?

  And Brandon Hovard.

• 1:37:14David Imel?

  Oh, yeah, Brandon Hovard.

• 1:37:15Speaker 05

  Behind the camera.

• 1:37:16Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:37:17David Imel?

  Turn the camera on, Brandon.

• 1:37:18Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah. Turn the camera.

• 1:37:29Andrew Manganelli?

  I can do all of David's talk in one. Camera look worse, but better?

• 1:37:36Speaker 01

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