Olivia Colman

Actress Olivia Colman feels incredibly excited about being Conan O’Brien’s friend. Olivia sits down with Conan to discuss her new film Wicker, her passion for crafts, landmark roles in The Crown, The Favourite, Fleabag, and more, and the perfect cup of tea. Plus, a topical Matt Gourley sketch emerges from the distant past. For Conan videos, tour dates and more visit TeamCoco.com. Got a question for Conan? Call our voicemail: (323) 362-2295.

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• 1:27Speaker 02

  Hi, my name is Olivia Coleman.

• 1:32Speaker 02

  And I feel incredibly excited about being Conan O'Brien's friend.

• 1:35Conan O'Brien?

  That's lovely.

• 1:36Speaker 01

  That is nice.

• 1:37Conan O'Brien?

  That's very nice. I didn't know how that would go.

• 1:39Speaker 02

  I was gonna say indifferent, but I thought that would be me.

• 1:44Conan O'Brien?

  It's funny, when you said indifferent, it sounded more real and natural. Really like it came from the heart.

• 1:49Speaker 03

  And she's a great actress.

• 1:50Conan O'Brien?

  You are a great actress.

• 2:12Conan O'Brien?

  Hey there, and welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. Got the normal whack pack with me today. Son of Sessian, Matt Gourley, and then, this is unusual, but we've brought in David Hopping. Usually you sub for Sona, but today we, I wanted you here.

• 2:27Speaker 01

  And Matt.

• 2:28Conan O'Brien?

  And Matt.

• 2:28Speaker 01

  You make it sound like I'm always out, but...

• 2:30Conan O'Brien?

  Well, you're out a lot.

• 2:31Speaker 01

  Well, Matt's sick a lot.

• 2:32Conan O'Brien?

  You've got a lot going on.

• 2:33Speaker 01

  Matt's a felon. Matt's sickly.

• 2:34Conan O'Brien?

  Guys were going down.

• 2:36Speaker 03

  Again?

• 2:36Speaker 01

  And he keeps having babies.

• 2:37Conan O'Brien?

  He's the only guy I know who has an iron lung and uses it, but doesn't need to. He just does it as an affectation.

• 2:44Speaker 03

  Can I justify it? I was at King Richard's Antique Mall, and it was just staring at you.

• 2:51Conan O'Brien?

  Wow, a 1938 Alivator.

• 2:57Speaker 03

  From DuPont.

• 2:58Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, from DuPont.

• 3:00Speaker 01

  I don't understand any of you.

• 3:01Conan O'Brien?

  I wanted, David, I wanted you to be here because you and I just took... I've been in New York a lot lately, and you've been going with me. I've had a lot of different gigs and things that I need to show up for in New York. I'm about to go again, and I think this month I'll have been there maybe three times in like, four weeks. It's pretty insane. But I bring it up because it's really fun to go to New York.

• 3:27Speaker 03

  It is.

• 3:27Conan O'Brien?

  And walk around and get this blast of energy. You know, I can't hide. When I put on a hat and glasses, people say, "Hey, Conan with hat and glasses."

• 3:38Speaker 03

  Well, even COVID, when you would wear a mask, you couldn't hide.

• 3:40Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. Well, the mask said, "My name is Conan O'Brien. Please talk to me."

• 3:45Speaker 03

  It was just a photorealistic printout of that part of your face.

• 3:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:49Conan O'Brien?

  And then I had punched holes in it, so I could talk to people more efficiently. Boy, did I get sick. We took the subway.

• 3:57Speaker 03

  I wish you guys would have been there. It was like Conan set up for like, half an hour of private meet and greet on the subway, because we were at One Corner.

• 4:05Conan O'Brien?

  It works perfectly, because every time, every time you...

• 4:09Speaker 01

  I'm glad I wasn't there.

• 4:10Conan O'Brien?

  Every time we...

• 4:11Speaker 03

  I'm cool, thanks.

• 4:12Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, you guys are good. No, every time it would stop, the car would empty out, and all the people I talked to would say, "Well, bye, Conan, bye, and thanks for the advice." And they would get off, and then new people would come on, and it would start all over again.

• 4:26Speaker 03

  You're just holding office hours on there.

• 4:28Conan O'Brien?

  I was holding office hours like a college professor with no skills. And it was, but it was fun, and we got down to... And then we were, there was one point where you and I were walking around, and about, I wanna say 50 kids who come from Northern Ireland.

• 4:42Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 4:42Conan O'Brien?

  They were all teenagers, saw me, recognized me for whatever, you know, from, I guess from the internet, whatever, and they were just...

• 4:49Speaker 03

  I think just from geneticism.

• 4:50Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 4:51Speaker 03

  Just like a tingling in their blood.

• 4:53Conan O'Brien?

  His, his skull's all fucked up like ours.

• 4:56Speaker 03

  Some kind of Druid Sixth Sense.

• 4:57Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 5:01Conan O'Brien?

  I sense inbreeding. It's Conan O'Brien. But they came over, and we just had a massive genetic get-together in midtown on a street corner. It was so much fun.

• 5:11Speaker 03

  And I saw a video of you online. I wasn't with you for this one, but you're in Central Park, meeting a bunch of people, and someone was like, it was like, Conan O'Brien's the nicest guy, and it's just you walking.

• 5:20Conan O'Brien?

  That's when I'm doing my nice guy act. Then the minute the cameras are down. But I was also seeing things, I saw, there was a group of like, 20 women doing yoga in the park together, you know, doing all the different poses, and there were all these empty wine bottles around them. Like, they drink a lot of wine.

• 5:39Speaker 03

  And you were just watching from the bushes?

• 5:41Conan O'Brien?

  Well, no, no. I was sketching them.

• 5:46Conan O'Brien?

  I carry a sketchbook, so I can get away with this stuff.

• 5:49Speaker 03

  Sketchy, for sure, yeah.

• 5:50Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, exactly. They're like, "You're not holding a pen."

• 5:54Speaker 03

  Ugh.

• 5:56Conan O'Brien?

  No, you just see all these things that are fascinating. It doesn't happen as much in LA.

• 6:00Speaker 03

  Well, it's gotta be like, you're kinda like the, almost the local boy come home, this politician walking around, and everybody knows you and loves you, you know?

• 6:09Conan O'Brien?

  I'm not sure they love me. I think, the nice thing about New York is if they don't love you, they just keep moving.

• 6:12Speaker 03

  That's nice.

• 6:13Conan O'Brien?

  So it's positive selection.

• 6:14Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 6:15Conan O'Brien?

  It's not negative selection. You get, you know, "Oh, I know him, and I, I don't loathe him, I'll go over and say hi." But it was, we had a lot of adventures.

• 6:22Speaker 03

  We did, and walking around with you was fun too, because you get like, the whole Conan O'Brien history tour. Like, as we're walking, he'll be like, "Oh, I lived there for a year," or "I did a skit here."

• 6:32Conan O'Brien?

  Well, so much of it is, well, first of all, I lived in almost one apartment a year, between all my time at Saturday Night Live and all my time doing late night. If you add that, it comes to almost, it's about 19 or 20 years.

• 6:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, wow.

• 6:45Conan O'Brien?

  If you add it all up. And there was a period in my life where I sublet, and I was always there in an apartment for a year, maybe a year and a half, and they're all over Manhattan, so I'm constant... It's not one or two apartments that I lived in, it's hundreds of them.

• 7:00Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 7:00Conan O'Brien?

  I'm moving around like a killer. But the crazier thing is, I cannot pass a street corner and not remember, "Oh, here's where I was dressed in lederhosen, throwing melted chocolate on people." "Oh, here I am with Abe Vigoda, and we were throwing snowballs at Mayor Koch." Like, whatever, we shot for years and years and years, so many things. And that's what I think of, not a romantic kiss with my fiance. No, I don't have any memories like that.

• 7:28Speaker 03

  Because that didn't happen.

• 7:29Conan O'Brien?

  Well, it's going to happen. I'm going to kiss Liza one day, if she allows it. Aww, that'll be sweet.

• 7:37Speaker 03

  Do you ever get a break from kind of going along with Conan, get your own time?

• 7:42Conan O'Brien?

  I do.

• 7:43Speaker 03

  And does that, you can speak freely.

• 7:45Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 7:45Speaker 03

  No, he's, he's good about it. He, I've said this... But does that feel like, like a break?

• 7:50Conan O'Brien?

  Let him speak.

• 7:51Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 7:51Speaker 01

  Doesn't it feel, doesn't it feel good?

• 7:54Conan O'Brien?

  Making the witness say something unpleasant. "I'll remind you of your under-...

• 7:57Speaker 01

  Isn't it great? Doesn't it feel great?

• 7:58Conan O'Brien?

  But David, do you or do you not get your own... What do I encourage?

• 8:01Speaker 03

  I have my own time. I've said this, I think, on here before, but he, every New York trip, Conan will buy me a ticket to a Broadway show.

• 8:08Speaker 01

  What the fuck?

• 8:09Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, but it's only the Rockettes every time, right?

• 8:11Speaker 01

  I've been in New York with you a million times. You never bought me a ticket to a Broadway show? I went with you a couple times, actually.

• 8:17Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, no, wait a minute.

• 8:18Speaker 01

  I actually don't wanna go.

• 8:18Conan O'Brien?

  First of all, I said, "As many hot dogs as you want, as long as it's street food." And you said, "Great."

• 8:23Speaker 01

  I also did it really, I was good.

• 8:25Conan O'Brien?

  And I said, "Hot dogs or, each time a ticket to a Broadway show." And you said, "Hot dogs," before I finished the sentence.

• 8:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, I like hot dogs. I do like hot dogs.

• 8:33Conan O'Brien?

  As many as you want.

• 8:34Speaker 03

  You also like to just like, chill in your hotel when you're in New York?

• 8:37Speaker 01

  No, what, back then, I would, I would go hard. Yeah, no, that was, I had, I had things.

• 8:42Conan O'Brien?

  You were not interested in seeing a Broadway show. You were interested in becoming a different person.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  But it was never an option.

• 8:48Conan O'Brien?

  Maybe moving in with someone. Okay, let's move on.

• 8:51Speaker 01

  It was fun, I had a good time.

• 8:52Conan O'Brien?

  Good times. I would lose her for months at a time.

• 8:54Speaker 03

  Really?

• 8:55Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, and then it turns out, "Oh no, she runs a strip joint downtown. She's making a killing." Sona, she's a butcher now. Yeah, and then I did this, what was really fun is Tina asked me to, Tina Fey asked me to join in on this 30 Rock reunion that was at Radio City. That was so much fun, because so many great people were there backstage, and it was just a great hang. That was my, like, first of all, catching up with Tina, catching up with Alec Baldwin, and Jack McBrer, and she does, everybody who's associated with that show. It was so much fun, and you saw me have a complete meltdown, because I try to be normal for half a second with Jack McBrer, and then I go right into ske- not even.

• 9:37Speaker 03

  Not even, no.

• 9:37Conan O'Brien?

  I go right into sketch mode, and then he's looking at you, saying, "Why?"

• 9:43Conan O'Brien?

  Why won't he stop?

• 9:44Speaker 03

  Before he left, he came up to tell me that he was glad he could fill in to take all the, all the heat from you for one night.

• 9:50Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I know.

• 9:50Speaker 04

  Because he does get on you for similar things about like, how elevators work.

• 9:54Speaker 03

  Uh-huh, how tall the buildings are.

• 9:55Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. Hey, any Jack McBrer riff is also a David Hopping riff. You need to find ways to regenerate these things.

• 10:01Speaker 04

  Oh, okay.

• 10:02Conan O'Brien?

  You know? I'm saying, the riff that works for Jack McBrer, of him being a hick, slides right over to David Hopping, and you get to repurpose.

• 10:09Speaker 04

  You mean if you don't use that muscle, you'll lose it? Is that what you're trying to say?

• 10:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, is that what you mean? It's important for you to continue and find someone?

• 10:15Conan O'Brien?

  I was thinking of it more like recycling.

• 10:17Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 10:17Conan O'Brien?

  Instead of a bit going to waste, you get to use it twice.

• 10:20Speaker 01

  Oh, that's nice.

• 10:21Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 10:21Speaker 01

  You're being resourceful.

• 10:23Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 10:23Speaker 01

  Okay, that's good.

• 10:24Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, like, all the riffs that I do about you, I could also use if I met a yeti, maybe.

• 10:30Speaker 01

  What?

• 10:30Conan O'Brien?

  You know what I mean?

• 10:31Speaker 01

  A yeti?

• 10:31Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, some crazy beast that came out of the woods. Hair flying, insane.

• 10:37Speaker 03

  Could you use Gourley's on?

• 10:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:38Conan O'Brien?

  Oh my god, you have no idea. Well, Gourley's a special case.

• 10:41Speaker 01

  Gourley is special.

• 10:42Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 10:42Speaker 04

  What's that supposed to mean?

• 10:43Conan O'Brien?

  You're a bespoke weirdo, you know?

• 10:45Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 10:45Conan O'Brien?

  It doesn't, there's not a lot of-

• 10:46Speaker 01

  It's a compliment.

• 10:47Speaker 04

  I'm my own kind of freak.

• 10:48Conan O'Brien?

  Exactly.

• 10:49Speaker 04

  Okay, yeah, I'll take that.

• 10:50Conan O'Brien?

  But anyway, I had a wonderful time, it was really a lot of fun, and, um, yeah, I think I'll be-

• 10:56Speaker 03

  We'll be back in like, two days?

• 10:57Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, we'll be back in a few days.

• 10:58Speaker 04

  What show are you gonna see this time?

• 11:00Conan O'Brien?

  I don't know yet.

• 11:00Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 11:01Conan O'Brien?

  Figure it out.

• 11:02Speaker 03

  I usually do a last minute, okay, choice, yeah.

• 11:04Conan O'Brien?

  And I'm gonna pretty much, uh, live on the L, so you can come see me. I'm just gonna ride the L back and forth from-

• 11:10Speaker 03

  I'm gonna start taking cash and charging people to go up and say hi.

• 11:13Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 11:13Conan O'Brien?

  I'm gonna sit there, I'm gonna set up a desk and just talk to people. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

• 11:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:17Conan O'Brien?

  All right, let's get into it. My guest today is an Academy Award-winning actress, you know, from The Crown and The Favourite. Uh, now you can see her in the new movie, Wicker. Uh, I think she's one of the best actors working.

• 11:31Speaker 04

  She's one of my favorite people that ever walked the earth.

• 11:34Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah, she's absolutely incredible, and I'm-

• 11:36Speaker 04

  Can't wait.

• 11:36Conan O'Brien?

  I'm thrilled she's here today.

• 11:43Conan O'Brien?

  Olivia Colman, welcome.

• 11:48Conan O'Brien?

  This is a special day for us, and I'll tell you why. Uh, I adore you, I think you're one of my favorite actors, you have been for quite a while, and then I get to work today, and, um, because I need to now fly to New York right after this podcast, I had a car pick me up, which is unusual, so a town car picked me up at home and dropped me off here at work.

• 12:08Speaker 04

  I know.

• 12:09Conan O'Brien?

  And posh, very posh.

• 12:10Speaker 04

  An aristocrat.

• 12:11Conan O'Brien?

  I didn't say a, a good town car. Um, but we pull up, and everyone from the office thought it was you, and everyone rushed out, and I saw a degree of love and respect that I have never seen before.

• 12:24Speaker 01

  That's not true.

• 12:25Conan O'Brien?

  And then I come in, and everyone's dressed up, they're all looking out the window waiting for you, and I have to say, Olivia, my feelings are hurt.

• 12:34Speaker 01

  I'm so sorry.

• 12:35Conan O'Brien?

  I've never come close to this level of excitement, so-

• 12:38Speaker 02

  You should come to my house, that would happen at my house.

• 12:41Conan O'Brien?

  I don't think so. That's very nice of you.

• 12:43Speaker 02

  It would, I promise.

• 12:44Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, you'll, you'll coach them before I-

• 12:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'll pay them.

• 12:47Conan O'Brien?

  You'll say, "He's from America."

• 12:50Conan O'Brien?

  We are going to be talking about your new film, Wicker, which I was allowed to see night before last, and I adore it, it's fantastic.

• 13:00Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 13:00Conan O'Brien?

  And I told you, sometimes they tell me, "Well, to help with the interview, Conan gets to see the movie," and sometimes it doesn't help. Because occasion- I'm not naming names, but occasionally, the movie is shit. And I, well, I, I shouldn't say that.

• 13:15Speaker 02

  Oh, you should, do you?

• 13:17Conan O'Brien?

  Well, sometimes-

• 13:20Conan O'Brien?

  I think we can both agree, it's a, it's a tricky thing to make a really good movie. Wicker's fantastic.

• 13:25Speaker 02

  Thank you very much.

• 13:26Conan O'Brien?

  It's really-

• 13:26Speaker 02

  I mean, we do all make films that are, that are bad, just, you know, can't help it. But I'm really pleased you love Wicker.

• 13:31Conan O'Brien?

  I absolutely love it, cast is amazing, uh, I saw Simba the other night at some Hollywood event, that I needed to do a, a turn at. I saw Alexander Skarsgård, who I know a little bit, who plays your Wicker husband beautifully.

• 13:45Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 13:46Conan O'Brien?

  And Elizabeth, help me with her last name.

• 13:48Speaker 02

  DeBicky.

• 13:49Conan O'Brien?

  DeBicky. Um, I've been very happily married for a long time.

• 13:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:53Conan O'Brien?

  And I remain happily married.

• 13:54Speaker 02

  But Elizabeth DeBicky?

• 13:55Conan O'Brien?

  I'm still recovering.

• 13:56Speaker 02

  Oh, she's breathtaking, yeah.

• 13:57Conan O'Brien?

  She is absolutely breathtaking, and she's amazing in the film.

• 14:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, she is.

• 14:01Conan O'Brien?

  And then, of course, you've got-

• 14:02Speaker 02

  And very nice.

• 14:02Conan O'Brien?

  You've got Peter Dinklage.

• 14:03Speaker 02

  Oh my god, he's amazing as well.

• 14:04Conan O'Brien?

  Who frightens me a little bit. Um, he's intimidating, that fellow. He's so brilliant, he's so brilliant, but, uh, I, I always think he's-

• 14:12Speaker 02

  He's very funny.

• 14:13Conan O'Brien?

  He's extremely funny.

• 14:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:15Conan O'Brien?

  We will talk more about the film, I wanted to start talking about you. I think the first time you came to my attention was Hot Fuzz.

• 14:22Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 14:23Conan O'Brien?

  I was watching the film Hot Fuzz, and I love, I love those series of films, and Hot Fuzz is a favorite. My son and I watch Hot Fuzz all the time together, and the first time I saw you, you had the smallest part, but you are so funny, and you really pop in that film.

• 14:38Speaker 02

  Thanks.

• 14:38Conan O'Brien?

  And now, all these years later, it's strange to see you in such a small part, but, because it's like, wait a minute, you know, uh, that's Oscar-winning Olivia Colman, uh, who's great in everything, and you're great in this, but it's such a small part, it took you a while. Your career was a slow burn.

• 14:54Speaker 02

  Yes, oh yes, and, uh, for the first year after drama school, I think I did a hundred auditions, didn't get a single one.

• 15:01Conan O'Brien?

  Oh my god.

• 15:01Speaker 02

  I know, and, um, lots of, lots of temping and working at cleaning and, but I'm very grateful for those years, because that means I'm, I'm appreciative of working.

• 15:12Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 15:12Speaker 02

  You get paid more in doing a film than cleaning.

• 15:16Conan O'Brien?

  Do you ever tell her to go back to the cleaning? Because-

• 15:18Speaker 02

  I did love that job, actually. I did, if I could get paid more, I'd, you know, yeah.

• 15:23Conan O'Brien?

  If you could make the same amount you make making Oscar-winning movies, uh, maybe, uh, maybe the cleaning would be-

• 15:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:30Conan O'Brien?

  Because you get to work with all those chemicals, it's fun.

• 15:31Speaker 02

  It's so much fun. But I felt, I, I took great pride in knowing that, for example, if there was, if there was a weird sort of nanny cam, they'd know that I was very well behaved, never looking, didn't look at anyone's drawers.

• 15:43Conan O'Brien?

  You know what's funny? Now people are gonna be reviewing their nanny cams if they still have the footage.

• 15:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:48Conan O'Brien?

  That's Olivia Colman, scrubbing out my toilet, and she's very good.

• 15:55Conan O'Brien?

  You, you've described yourself as not being a very good student.

• 15:58Speaker 02

  Not on purpose.

• 16:03Conan O'Brien?

  Some people do it on purpose. Oh boy, do I know trigonometry, but I choose not to.

• 16:09Speaker 02

  I just, I've struggled to concentrate a lot of the time, uh, and I was, I think, jolly, try, you know, I just wasn't very, wasn't very good at concentrating. Like, same as when I was a waitress.

• 16:21Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 16:22Speaker 02

  Enthusiastic, not necessarily good at it.

• 16:25Conan O'Brien?

  Did you-

• 16:25Speaker 02

  I'd bring you a sandwich, we wouldn't order a sandwich.

• 16:30Conan O'Brien?

  I actually prefer this.

• 16:31Speaker 01

  That's my kind of waitress.

• 16:32Conan O'Brien?

  Thank you.

• 16:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's diagnostic serving.

• 16:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 16:36Conan O'Brien?

  Did you, uh, were you the kind that was confident you didn't write things down? It terrifies me when, uh, a, a waiter comes over and you're telling them what I'd like is a Reuben sandwich, but if you could go easy on the cheese, and if you could, and they're like, "Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh," and you know there's no way they get this-

• 16:52Speaker 02

  You know they're gonna fuck it.

• 16:53Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 16:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. I'm so sorry, am I allowed to swear?

• 16:55Conan O'Brien?

  You're allowed to swear.

• 16:56Speaker 02

  Oh, fuck that.

• 16:57Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.

• 16:59Speaker 02

  Cunt fuck, fuck, sorry.

• 17:01Conan O'Brien?

  Now you've gone too far.

• 17:03Speaker 02

  They don't like that word, do they?

• 17:04Conan O'Brien?

  This is over.

• 17:06Speaker 02

  I'm so sorry.

• 17:07Conan O'Brien?

  No, no, well, people love it when women say it.

• 17:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:09Conan O'Brien?

  When a man says it, he's put in a prison, I think, actually.

• 17:12Speaker 02

  Unless you're English, in which case you can say it in an affectionate way.

• 17:15Conan O'Brien?

  No, no, no, in England, right, it's a whole other ballgame there.

• 17:18Speaker 02

  It is, it is, so it's quite alarming when people look shocked when I say it here. I have learnt of these to try not to.

• 17:24Conan O'Brien?

  No, no, you're Olivia Colman.

• 17:26Speaker 02

  It's a cunt.

• 17:26Conan O'Brien?

  You've earned the, yes, yeah.

• 17:28Speaker 02

  Okay, great, thanks.

• 17:28Conan O'Brien?

  I would say, cunt it up.

• 17:30Speaker 01

  See? You said that before me.

• 17:32Conan O'Brien?

  No, no, it's over for me now. Now, I'm sorry, but I'm gonna get a t-shirt that says that.

• 17:40Speaker 04

  There's nothing pearl clutching about hearing you say it for some reason.

• 17:44Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, it's the worst. It's the worst. Yeah, I'm gonna stick with it. You take that out, I'll kill you. Because you know what? If this is what ends me in this country, I'm okay with that. You talk about these, you struggle for a while, but then you're in Broad Church. I remember, I think you were so good in Broad Church, and I love, I just have a soft spot always for, I don't know if you guys are the same, but if the Brits are making it, I always assume it's going to be good. And I just have that, I don't know if it's a self-effacing thing, but I generally, when I'm watching BritBox, which I watch a lot, and I'm watching different shows that are from Britain, especially I grew up idolizing British comedy, just idolizing it. And I always thought, well, they're just better than us at this.

• 18:28Speaker 02

  That's interesting. I think we feel the same in the other direction. Americans, and the way they overlap their lines, it feels so natural, and we try it and it doesn't feel quite.

• 18:38Conan O'Brien?

  Really?

• 18:39Speaker 04

  I think that's just impatience and selfishness on our part of, I'm not talking enough.

• 18:43Conan O'Brien?

  Hey, I'm talking.

• 18:47Conan O'Brien?

  But that's so interesting.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  I think there's a naturalism that Americans do, which I really, I love. I try to copy it, but it doesn't, I don't know if I'm, I've tried more, I'll try. I'll be better.

• 18:58Conan O'Brien?

  I think this is the reason you've largely failed in your career. Really your own fault. I thought you were great in Broad Church, and then I love The Night Manager.

• 19:11Speaker 04

  Excuse me, did I make a noise?

• 19:13Speaker 01

  What was that noise, girl?

• 19:15Speaker 04

  First of all, I think Lakeré and Olivia Colman are two of my favorite things that ever existed on this planet. I'm sorry to embarrass you, but it's just.

• 19:24Conan O'Brien?

  He will be following you. He'll be following you when you leave.

• 19:27Speaker 04

  Yes, but in a spy way, like a Lakeré way, not in a creepy way.

• 19:31Conan O'Brien?

  Women love it when you're creepy about it, and furtive.

• 19:36Conan O'Brien?

  Night Manager is so good, and I was so delighted there was another one, and that, and for a while, I think it was a surprise that you were gonna be back, because I thought, well, there's no way they get Olivia Colman back. You've just become, you're too big now. And then when you showed up, I was just over the moon.

• 19:52Speaker 02

  Oh, great.

• 19:53Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, so, and then, of course, The Crown. I mean, I'm just running through your resume, but people need to understand that you have been, from my point of view, unerring. You've just, everything you do, you pick very well, and then you're just kind of perfect in things. And so, I want you to leave filled with joy.

• 20:12Speaker 02

  This is literally the best day I've ever had. Thanks, guys.

• 20:17Conan O'Brien?

  Until I said cunt it up.

• 20:20Speaker 04

  Which you just did again.

• 20:22Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, that's true. Yeah, The Crown, and one of the things that's, I thought The Crown series was impeccable, and the fact that they chose, which I thought was brilliant, to not start with Clara Foy and then age her, the way different actresses came in and took over the part, and it was so powerful, and because of the caliber of the acting, I never thought, well, we've got to, who's, you know, why have we switched out a new, it was perfection.

• 20:52Speaker 02

  That was a brilliant idea of theirs. And also, it is too hard, I mean, you are sort of different people as you go through your life.

• 20:58Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 20:58Speaker 02

  I suppose. I'm a very different person to when I was a teenager. I'll probably be very different and much more grumpy when I'm, you know, in my 80s. But that's not suggesting anyone is, I was just thinking, no.

• 21:10Conan O'Brien?

  Let me take that on myself. That's not what you meant, but I know some terrible old people. And that's coming from, that's coming from me. And if you're out there and you're an old, terrible person, and you have a problem with what I just said, just try and catch me, you old fool.

• 21:27Speaker 02

  Wow. Oh, dear, what, we're done?

• 21:29Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, and trust me, this is my last podcast, but what a way to go out.

• 21:34Conan O'Brien?

  No, it was, it was a brilliant idea, and you're right. You pick up the Queen in different moments of her life, but I was completely convinced it was the same person.

• 21:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:45Conan O'Brien?

  And I was very moved when it ended.

• 21:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, and also the timing was, I think it was very close to the time that she died, that the final letter came out. And even people who aren't royalists, and I'm not a royalist, but I see them all as human beings.

• 22:00Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 22:01Speaker 02

  She was beloved by everyone. She was a really impressive human being.

• 22:05Conan O'Brien?

  Yes.

• 22:06Speaker 02

  So, yeah, everybody was shocked. Weirdly, she was old, but you just think she's gonna keep going.

• 22:12Conan O'Brien?

  You think about it, there's, she was part of, you know, the closest corollary we have in America is Franklin Roosevelt was president for like 16 years, and when he died in 1945, there were people who, he had been the only president they ever knew.

• 22:29Speaker 02

  Well, yeah.

• 22:30Conan O'Brien?

  So people were stunned, and then you think, well, Queen Elizabeth was in her 90s.

• 22:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, she was early 20s, wasn't she, when she came to the throne, I think, wasn't she? Yeah. Was she on honeymoon when she came back and her father had died?

• 22:42Conan O'Brien?

  I believe so.

• 22:43Speaker 02

  I really should know this.

• 22:44Conan O'Brien?

  I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm sorry, you were in the show.

• 22:49Conan O'Brien?

  I can answer questions about me, and that's about it.

• 23:00Conan O'Brien?

  This fall, I wanna try something different.

• 23:02Speaker 01

  What?

• 23:02Conan O'Brien?

  I like to change it up. I like to learn things, so I'm gonna try and make apple cider.

• 23:06Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 23:06Conan O'Brien?

  Every morning.

• 23:07Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 23:08Conan O'Brien?

  This fall, just to see if I can do it.

• 23:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:10Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, fall's the perfect season to try something new, like joining T-Mobile.

• 23:14Speaker 01

  Oh, that's good.

• 23:15Conan O'Brien?

  See what I did?

• 23:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:16Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, there are 250 reasons to join T-Mobile right now. You wanna hear what they are?

• 23:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:20Conan O'Brien?

  They're America's best network.

• 23:21Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 23:22Conan O'Brien?

  True story. Plus, T-Mobile has got off-grid satellite coverage. That comes in really handy. I like to just wander in the woods sometimes.

• 23:29Speaker 01

  Oh, that's weird.

• 23:29Conan O'Brien?

  When I'm thinking about, like, making apple cider, and that's when it comes in handy. Here's another reason. High-speed data in over 215 countries and destinations. I travel a lot for the.

• 23:39Speaker 01

  You travel a lot.

• 23:39Conan O'Brien?

  Travel show that I do.

• 23:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:41Conan O'Brien?

  Stream this podcast while ignoring local landmarks. That's always fun to do. Like, oh, look, there's the Mona Lisa. Yeah, check it out. I'm in the Louvre. I should, but I'm listening to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend.

• 23:51Speaker 01

  That doesn't seem like a good idea.

• 23:52Conan O'Brien?

  It's a great idea.

• 23:53Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 23:54Conan O'Brien?

  You know, you can see art anytime, but how often can you listen to this podcast?

• 23:59Speaker 01

  My god.

• 24:00Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. No, all these reasons make T-Mobile a great choice.

• 24:03Speaker 01

  I agree.

• 24:04Conan O'Brien?

  T-Mobile is stacking up reasons to join. Go to T-Mobile.com and find yours best, based on analysis by Ookla of speed test intelligence data, first half of 2026. Can't believe I read that. T-Satellite with capable devices in most outdoor areas in the US where you can see the sky. High-speed international data with qualifying plan. Visit T-Mobile.com. Consult a physician. I just threw that in there.

• 24:28Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 24:32Conan O'Brien?

  Coca-Cola Zero Sugar is so good, it's almost impossible not to finish it before the meal arrives. It's just too good to wait. That happens to me sometimes.

• 24:40Speaker 01

  Me too.

• 24:41Conan O'Brien?

  You can try rules like no sipping until the appetizer arrives, or you tell your friend, don't let me touch my glass, but every time you're staring at an empty glass, so if you've ever finished your Coke Zero before the first fry hits the table, you're among friends. It happens. Occupational hazard with Coke Zero.

• 24:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:59Conan O'Brien?

  Real Coca-Cola taste, zero sugar, too good to wait. Enjoy an ice cold Coca-Cola Zero Sugar today.

• 25:06Speaker 05

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• 25:43Conan O'Brien?

  I have to mention again, and then I'll be done with your resume, but it's just insane, The Favorite, which I re-watched last night.

• 25:50Speaker 02

  Did you?

• 25:50Conan O'Brien?

  In preparation for you being here, and I've now seen it, I think, four times.

• 25:55Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 25:56Conan O'Brien?

  And it's flawless, and obviously you won the Oscar for that role, but I was watching the part, and again, the acting throughout is brilliant, and the writing is brilliant, but you're, when the camera holds on you as Queen Anne, when it holds on you.

• 26:13Speaker 02

  Watching the dance.

• 26:14Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, you're watching the dance, and you're, you seem pleased, and then we see the darkness descend on you, and it's a really long take, and you don't have a line for the longest time. And I was watching that, and I thought, well, that, that is the power of cinema at its best. And I don't understand what it takes to be able to do that.

• 26:38Speaker 02

  But it's nice when people leave the camera running, because then you get to, and it's well-written, you know, and also Rachel and, well, she danced with Joe, were, and they're doing it.

• 26:50Conan O'Brien?

  Joe Allen and Rachel Weisz are dancing together, and you're watching them, and then you just see this cloud start to descend on you, and.

• 26:59Speaker 02

  But I think that's a good director, good writer, gorgeous performers who are helping, who are your team. They're on your side. They're doing it for you. But your ghost, you know, told me, this is what you're thinking, and so, this is easy then.

• 27:12Conan O'Brien?

  Can you tell me what he said?

• 27:13Speaker 02

  You're loving watching your lover dance. You become jealous that you can't do it. You become, you know, and this sort of neurosis kicks in. But to be able to have the camera just staying on you is a treat.

• 27:26Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 27:27Speaker 02

  So it's, I think lots of people can do that, and just don't get, everyone cuts around it normally.

• 27:32Conan O'Brien?

  Right. Well, I'm not gonna go with you on lots of people can do it. Maybe, you'll say that, but I'm gonna go a different way.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  But thank you very much. That's very nice of you.

• 27:42Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, my god, it's just extraordinary, and it's funny, because I read a quote of yours, which you said, acting is the only thing I can do. I'm bad at everything else, and that you actually.

• 27:53Speaker 02

  If I say I'm gonna cook for you, say no.

• 27:55Conan O'Brien?

  No? Well, I'm in the same camp.

• 27:57Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 27:57Conan O'Brien?

  I'm in the same camp. I'm very bad at a lot of things, and whenever people, on the off-chance that someone does compliment me, and it will happen someday, I, not here.

• 28:09Speaker 01

  Are you fishing? I don't know. Do you want us to right now?

• 28:11Conan O'Brien?

  No, no, I know not to fish in this pond. There hasn't been a fish in this pond in 700 years.

• 28:18Conan O'Brien?

  But you actively wish, like, you played an instrument, or that you had this, what is, there must be something else that you're really good at.

• 28:25Speaker 02

  I'm really good at folding.

• 28:30Conan O'Brien?

  Well, let's find out.

• 28:34Conan O'Brien?

  Amazing.

• 28:35Speaker 04

  Do you do those kind of like secret super folds that are like tricky hacks? Or you're just good at traditional folding?

• 28:41Speaker 02

  I don't know about hacks. Yeah, traditional folding. My linen cupboard is so beautiful. And if any of my kids don't go to get something out.

• 28:49Speaker 02

  And they leave it sort of with a corner up.

• 28:54Speaker 02

  Oh, it makes my head itch. I have to go back in and redo it.

• 28:57Conan O'Brien?

  Fix it up.

• 28:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:58Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, so folding, we've got that.

• 28:59Speaker 02

  Folding.

• 29:00Conan O'Brien?

  We know that you're a good cleaner.

• 29:02Speaker 02

  I'm good at cleaning.

• 29:04Conan O'Brien?

  Is there one kind of food that you can make? I mean.

• 29:08Speaker 02

  I'm quite good at baking.

• 29:09Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, well, there you go.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, only because my husband's not really interested in baking, so I get the glory at the end of, you know, I've done a pudding.

• 29:18Conan O'Brien?

  That's so funny.

• 29:21Conan O'Brien?

  My wife cooks everything and she's very good, but I don't think she thinks it's because that she gets all the glory. It's because she knows I can make the ramen's instant soup where you, you know, you pour the packet into the, yeah.

• 29:33Speaker 01

  You just pour hot water into the noodles?

• 29:35Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, I know how to do that.

• 29:36Speaker 01

  Okay, that's good.

• 29:37Conan O'Brien?

  And I can make a tuna fish sandwich.

• 29:39Speaker 02

  That's pretty good.

• 29:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's good.

• 29:41Conan O'Brien?

  No, it's not.

• 29:41Speaker 02

  Well, now I'm being kind.

• 29:44Conan O'Brien?

  You're a terrible actor, I'm realizing now. When you don't believe in it, that's very good. You cried a little bit when you said that. You have said that a role that you would love to play is Mrs. M. on the Bond film. Now, this, now, this man.

• 29:59Speaker 02

  Desperate.

• 30:00Conan O'Brien?

  Desperate.

• 30:01Speaker 04

  You mean M., right?

• 30:02Conan O'Brien?

  M.

• 30:03Speaker 04

  Not Mrs. M., like the wife of M. You mean, I have been calling on the gods for you to play M. for forever.

• 30:10Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 30:10Conan O'Brien?

  You're welcome.

• 30:11Speaker 02

  I say it whenever I get the chance.

• 30:13Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 30:13Speaker 02

  Maybe I've done it too much.

• 30:15Conan O'Brien?

  We met one of the gentlemen that's producing the new Bond.

• 30:18Speaker 02

  Did you?

• 30:18Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 30:18Speaker 02

  Did you say?

• 30:19Conan O'Brien?

  He was around, I met him at a party. He also, he's done the Bond franchise. He's responsible now for the new Bond.

• 30:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's starting on the Bond.

• 30:26Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, he's starting the new Bond and he, but he's done Paddington, which I think those are.

• 30:30Speaker 04

  David Hayman, yeah.

• 30:31Conan O'Brien?

  Those are remarkable films. His name?

• 30:32Speaker 04

  David Hayman.

• 30:33Conan O'Brien?

  David Hayman.

• 30:34Speaker 02

  Well, I know David Hayman.

• 30:35Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, let's make this happen.

• 30:36Speaker 01

  Why would you know someone she doesn't know in a way, right? I mean, oh, I'm sorry.

• 30:41Conan O'Brien?

  I'm, excuse me, Sona.

• 30:42Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 30:42Conan O'Brien?

  We don't have time for this petty bullshit. We've got to get her M., okay?

• 30:46Speaker 02

  I'm going to phone David.

• 30:47Conan O'Brien?

  But wait a minute.

• 30:48Speaker 02

  I didn't think of doing that.

• 30:51Conan O'Brien?

  Do you realize, oh, wait a minute, Ralph Fiennes, what is he doing now? Is he got the role now?

• 30:58Speaker 02

  He's M.

• 30:59Speaker 04

  He's playing President Snow in The Hunger Games things.

• 31:01Speaker 02

  Oh, so he's busy. He doesn't need M.

• 31:02Conan O'Brien?

  He's busy.

• 31:03Speaker 04

  Also, I owe his soul.

• 31:04Conan O'Brien?

  He's done. Also, Ralph Fiennes, he's fine, but come on, he's not really an actor.

• 31:14Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 31:15Speaker 04

  It has to be you. It has to be you.

• 31:18Conan O'Brien?

  By the way, just for anyone who's confused or just reading a transcript and didn't read my tone, he's one of my all time favorite actors as well.

• 31:24Speaker 02

  That's the thing, when you read a transcript, so at one interview I said, I wanted M. and then fucking Ralph got it. And in black and white, that looks awful.

• 31:33Conan O'Brien?

  Right. Well, but if they know you, only a heartless.

• 31:37Speaker 02

  Because I love him.

• 31:38Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 31:39Speaker 02

  He's amazing.

• 31:39Conan O'Brien?

  He's wonderful, but you'd be fantastic and I know that people listen to me and my takes on who should play who.

• 31:47Speaker 04

  This is the problem here. I think this is where we get into trouble.

• 31:50Conan O'Brien?

  You think I'm off my meds again?

• 31:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 31:53Conan O'Brien?

  Well, I think you would be absolutely amazing and it's going to happen. I'm going to say that it's got to happen because it's perfect.

• 31:58Speaker 02

  Thanks, guys. Thanks.

• 31:59Speaker 04

  You're not being coy. You don't know something we don't know.

• 32:01Speaker 02

  Oh, no, I really, no, no, no. I can't.

• 32:03Conan O'Brien?

  You can't.

• 32:04Speaker 04

  Right, okay.

• 32:05Speaker 02

  No.

• 32:08Speaker 04

  But imagine her in the wood paneled office with the leather quilted door. It's just, it's just got to happen. It's got to happen.

• 32:15Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. Yeah. Listen, from your lips, and I'm not going to say to God's ear, we know the person to talk to.

• 32:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:22Speaker 04

  From my lips to David Hayman's.

• 32:24Conan O'Brien?

  We're going to talk to David Hayman.

• 32:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:26Conan O'Brien?

  And he's my friend now. Now, when he hears that, he's going to say, well, that's not really true. I chatted with you at a party and you asked me way too many questions about the new Bond, but I believe we are best friends now in my mind.

• 32:36Speaker 04

  How's it going with you asking him if I could play Bond?

• 32:39Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 32:40Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, he actually choked. He choked on a shrimp canapé.

• 32:43Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 32:44Conan O'Brien?

  When I said that, when I showed him your picture.

• 32:46Speaker 04

  Thank you. Thank you, see.

• 32:48Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 32:49Speaker 01

  I'm like, I'm blind to him.

• 32:50Conan O'Brien?

  He said you'd be good at the person who comes to repair Bond's, his clock.

• 32:55Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 32:55Conan O'Brien?

  His, yeah. No, no, not even a, not even a cool gadget, just a little clock that's a little off and you come in and you.

• 33:01Speaker 04

  I'll take it. I'll take it.

• 33:04Conan O'Brien?

  You, you've said something that really.

• 33:06Speaker 01

  You're aiming so high. I'm so sorry.

• 33:09Conan O'Brien?

  He's so excited. You've never, we're all very excited, but when you take, when you cross the beam of Olivia Colman and Bond, your wig starts spinning and I know it's a wig.

• 33:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, and it's, I'm, I'm just in, I won't even belabor it anymore.

• 33:25Conan O'Brien?

  Okay. You have said fame is, you find fame, the whole concept of fame, kind of embarrassing, which I think is delightful and it's why you're delightful. But that it just feels silly.

• 33:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 33:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, and it so depends on who you have around you as well. I just sort of keep my head down and, and I'm very lucky. My husband and I met when we were 20, so he thought I was annoying long before everyone else realized I was like. And, yeah, and I was already a grown up before it happened.

• 33:54Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, yes.

• 33:54Speaker 02

  Um, but I still not good at it. When I'm at work, I, you know, but when someone takes a video of you and you're not at work or I just think that's very odd and I don't know how people cope.

• 34:06Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 34:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I tend to not go out.

• 34:09Conan O'Brien?

  That's too bad. I don't like, I don't like that for you.

• 34:12Speaker 02

  Oh, I do.

• 34:13Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, okay.

• 34:14Speaker 02

  My, that's why my linen cupboard is so.

• 34:15Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, more, yeah, more folding time.

• 34:20Conan O'Brien?

  Sometimes you're given a gift, but it's also problematic and for you, you've talked about this, you're a sensitive person. And this is, I'm sure enormously helpful to you as an actor, but also probably at times problematic too. You've said that it is hard for you when you're doing a scene not to feel the emotions that you're, there's no barrier. You're not able to control that as much.

• 34:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm a very simple creature, I think. When people ask, how do you do it? I don't know, just say it and it's sad or.

• 34:53Conan O'Brien?

  Your, your lectures on acting are very short. I don't know.

• 34:57Speaker 02

  My, my book on acting would be really short.

• 35:00Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. But you talk about, this is fascinating, you did a scene, I think it was with Helena Bonham Carter, you did a scene with her. And you couldn't stop, it was, it required for you to be sort of self possessed as the queen would be.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:16Conan O'Brien?

  Self possessed and not emotive, but you kept getting very emotional because you couldn't stop, you couldn't help it.

• 35:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:23Conan O'Brien?

  So what did you do?

• 35:23Speaker 02

  Because she was saying, which I can't repeat because it'll make me cry, but she was talking about an event that happened in Wales.

• 35:29Conan O'Brien?

  Mm hmm.

• 35:30Speaker 02

  And, and she was Princess Margaret and her husband had gone to go and volunteer to help.

• 35:35Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 35:36Speaker 02

  Her character was telling me about it and I was meant to be trying to bravely listen. And I kept going.

• 35:45Speaker 02

  Sorry. And then everyone just went, and it was quite early on as, I think as well in my.

• 35:51Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. In your reign, it's, I believe it was the coal miner, there was a collapse or a landslide in a coal mine and it was devastating to a community. And this was, this was a huge moment.

• 36:04Speaker 02

  Buried a school.

• 36:05Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, oh, it's just terrible. Yeah.

• 36:08Speaker 02

  Awful, and so I couldn't listen to it. And then, so the lovely sound department gave me an earpiece and just played loudly the shipping forecast.

• 36:21Speaker 02

  Helena went, this is charming.

• 36:24Conan O'Brien?

  They broke in with a tragic news alert on the radio.

• 36:27Speaker 02

  So I'm sort of, yeah, listening to South at Sierra, North at Sierra, fair to middling.

• 36:37Conan O'Brien?

  A shipment from Ikea, of course, would be slightly delayed and then you burst into tears.

• 36:44Conan O'Brien?

  Wow, okay. Yeah, so I was wondering why the queen was wearing a giant earpiece during that very powerful scene. I told you that I was very fortunate enough to see Wicker. One of my favorite ways to go into a movie is to know absolutely nothing.

• 36:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:59Conan O'Brien?

  And what I loved about my experience with Wicker is I knew absolutely nothing.

• 37:03Speaker 02

  That's quite impressive because weirdly that trailer everyone has seen.

• 37:05Conan O'Brien?

  No, no, a lot of people have seen the trailer, but.

• 37:07Speaker 01

  I've seen it a few times.

• 37:08Conan O'Brien?

  I am, I am not.

• 37:09Speaker 04

  What's that supposed to say?

• 37:10Conan O'Brien?

  I'm not into, I am not on social media as much. I mean, and, and so, and I haven't been in a movie theater for a while, so I haven't seen the trailer. And so I, it just starts.

• 37:21Speaker 02

  I love that.

• 37:22Conan O'Brien?

  And I immediately was captivated. You make these transformations that are completely 100% honest. The way the movie starts, you're just this outcast and then once a husband, once you're presented with a husband who, by the way, is Alexander Skarsgard and he's made of Wicker.

• 37:41Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, she's done well.

• 37:42Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. And I also love, this says a lot about Alexander Skarsgard, he's made of Wicker, but it's because it's Alexander Skarsgard, I'm like, I would do that guy.

• 37:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:53Conan O'Brien?

  And even if he's Wicker, I don't care.

• 37:55Speaker 01

  Same.

• 37:56Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 37:56Speaker 02

  He is so beautiful.

• 37:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:58Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. And, and a lovely person.

• 38:00Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, he's lovely and he's funny and he's witty and he's self deprecating and it was just, doing press tour with him has been so nice.

• 38:09Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 38:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:10Conan O'Brien?

  And then I also saw there are certain notes that I've seen throughout your career, but it's, it's, it is, you're so good as you were in The Favorite. Everything's kind of perfect and I don't want to give away too much, but then it's very human doubt and jealousy start to come into it. And it's heartbreaking, but it's just, it's just lovely, really lovely.

• 38:30Speaker 02

  Thank you. We're so proud of it and, you know, you make a small art house film and it's hard work and people are really committed to it. And then that it's had a sort of life of its own and when the trailer, the directors cut the trailer.

• 38:44Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 38:44Speaker 02

  It's really good and it also doesn't show 90% of the film.

• 38:48Conan O'Brien?

  Yes.

• 38:49Speaker 02

  Um, which is really nice because they, they hate it when, you know.

• 38:52Conan O'Brien?

  That's what makes me crazy. Yeah, that's what it makes me crazy with my kids is they'll say, I want to see the trailer for Jaws and in the trailer it's, there's a shark. Oh, no, it's killing people. Don't worry, we blew it up. Go see it. I'm like, why?

• 39:06Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 39:06Speaker 01

  Spoiler alert.

• 39:07Conan O'Brien?

  This film was made in 1975.

• 39:08Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 39:11Conan O'Brien?

  If you haven't seen Jaws, go fuck yourself.

• 39:17Conan O'Brien?

  I'm sorry, Olivia, I was trying to be very, I was trying to be on my best behavior today and I've completely blown it.

• 39:23Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 39:24Speaker 04

  You just counted it up.

• 39:24Conan O'Brien?

  That's what she did. That's three, okay.

• 39:27Speaker 02

  Also, I'm just, if I could.

• 39:29Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, of course, go ahead.

• 39:30Speaker 02

  The Fisherwoman, she doesn't become happier because she's got a husband.

• 39:33Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 39:33Speaker 02

  Um, she was very happy on her own and the only woman in the village with agency in her own job and her own name, Fisherwoman, everyone else is named after their husband's job. And she orders her husband in order to shut them all up and to sort of have, have the last laugh and mock their, their obsession with marriage and the whole concept of marriage. So, but she just, yeah, I, I love it that you can see this strong person. The cracks appear because

• 39:58Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 39:59Speaker 02

  love is getting in and it makes, uh, that she's doubtful and suddenly not as strong.

• 40:05Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 40:05Speaker 02

  And then when, when, when she realizes it's love, it's just, oh, it's, I love it. I love the story when I read it.

• 40:11Conan O'Brien?

  It's a beautiful film. People love the trailer and it's been a, it's been a huge success. I did not see it before I watched the movie and I've seen it since, but people have been having a lot of fun with it. And Ikea did something really brilliant. Have you heard about this?

• 40:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:24Conan O'Brien?

  You want to say what it is?

• 40:25Speaker 02

  So I think it was Australia Ikea, wasn't it?

• 40:28Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 40:28Speaker 02

  They had on their online thing, because I don't have social media either, so other people sent it to me. But they'd, they had a wicker bench and it said, husband material. And then it said, if you know, you know. It was so.

• 40:41Speaker 01

  We just got the press here.

• 40:42Conan O'Brien?

  What is this?

• 40:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:43Conan O'Brien?

  So this is, you brought, first of all, this should be a new policy that everyone has to bring gifts.

• 40:48Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 40:48Conan O'Brien?

  And it's going to be called the Olivia Colman Rule.

• 40:50Speaker 01

  I already opened mine.

• 40:52Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, okay, that's, that's good drama.

• 40:54Speaker 01

  Sorry.

• 40:55Conan O'Brien?

  No, I can't open a box. There it is.

• 40:57Speaker 01

  There's conversation about what this is.

• 40:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, we were having a conversation.

• 41:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:01Speaker 04

  That's what I said, but that's not what you said.

• 41:04Conan O'Brien?

  Uh, that is not what I thought.

• 41:06Speaker 02

  What did you say?

• 41:07Speaker 01

  I said it was a wicker dick.

• 41:11Speaker 02

  That's a funny shape.

• 41:12Speaker 01

  It is, that's what Gori said.

• 41:14Conan O'Brien?

  Olivia, I want to apologize. This won't air. This won't go out. And, uh, so this will not be promotion forever.

• 41:21Speaker 01

  I have always seen the trailer, but yes, I, that's, but it's beautiful and.

• 41:25Speaker 02

  So we had, um, at Black Bear Offices yesterday, some press and they, they had some of these.

• 41:29Speaker 04

  This is amazing.

• 41:30Speaker 02

  Aren't they lovely? I also love crafts.

• 41:32Conan O'Brien?

  You know what's, you know what's amazing too is?

• 41:35Speaker 04

  What kind of crafts do you do?

• 41:36Speaker 02

  I like sewing and pottery and.

• 41:40Speaker 04

  You are good at things.

• 41:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. I was good. I am enthusiastic and there's a difference.

• 41:44Speaker 04

  Well, that matters. That's all it matters.

• 41:46Conan O'Brien?

  It says, sure, you're a physicist. The, the depiction of Peter Dinklage's character, the, the wicker craftsman, working is so beautiful. It's so beautifully shot that, and I'm one of those people who, when I do go online, if someone is restoring an old motorcycle they found in a barn and taking all the oil off and putting it back together and welding things, I can watch that forever. And the same thing with someone who has a real skill.

• 42:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:13Conan O'Brien?

  Just, I was mesmerized when Peter Dinklage is building the wicker man.

• 42:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:18Conan O'Brien?

  And it's kind of captivating.

• 42:19Speaker 02

  Um, weave, so he made a basket, which he kept and is in his house in New York.

• 42:24Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 42:24Speaker 01

  So cool.

• 42:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, so cool. Um, oh, I was gonna say, it's gone. Nope, it's gone. Sorry.

• 42:29Conan O'Brien?

  Well, that can't happen again.

• 42:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, so really you.

• 42:32Conan O'Brien?

  So you had an idea, now it's just gone?

• 42:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, totally gone.

• 42:34Conan O'Brien?

  Well, what do we do now?

• 42:35Speaker 04

  Wicker, uh, was it?

• 42:37Speaker 02

  Was it?

• 42:37Speaker 04

  Sewing, ceramics?

• 42:39Conan O'Brien?

  Was it Peter Dinklage? Was it physicist? You're a physicist.

• 42:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what it was, yeah.

• 42:44Speaker 04

  You sew clothes or, or what do you usually sew?

• 42:47Speaker 02

  Oh, uh, curtains, but simple curtains or, uh, patchwork quilts.

• 42:52Conan O'Brien?

  Do you use a sewing machine?

• 42:54Speaker 02

  A sewing machine?

• 42:56Conan O'Brien?

  I'm sorry.

• 42:57Speaker 04

  For the listener, what were you doing?

• 42:59Speaker 02

  Stitch, stitch, stitch.

• 43:00Speaker 04

  It looked like you were pumping Italian soda.

• 43:03Conan O'Brien?

  Did I, have you seen my sewing machine? My sewing machine is a very strange one.

• 43:09Speaker 02

  Is that driving as well?

• 43:09Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 43:10Speaker 02

  Cycling.

• 43:11Conan O'Brien?

  I don't know, I was, you know what I was doing? I don't know why I did that. I'm so embarrassed.

• 43:14Speaker 04

  Was that the wheel, the foot wheel thing?

• 43:16Conan O'Brien?

  I think I was doing the pedal of the, you know, the, I was doing the old fashioned one because I grew up in a Mennonite community where there was no electricity.

• 43:24Speaker 04

  Right, right.

• 43:26Speaker 02

  I'm sorry, I didn't mean to pick on you.

• 43:29Conan O'Brien?

  You made a fool out of me, Olivia.

• 43:30Speaker 04

  She had every right.

• 43:32Conan O'Brien?

  You made a fool out of me and it was way too easy.

• 43:38Conan O'Brien?

  We had that once on the podcast, when Sir Paul McCartney was doing the podcast and he said, he did some joke at my expense and this was in front of an audience and the crowd really laughed and I said, you just made a fool of me, Paul. And he said, it's just so easy.

• 43:56Conan O'Brien?

  And I thought, wow, zinged by a beetle made me very, very happy. Um, do your, I have a question about your family. You talked about this uneasy relationship with fame. I imagine they're good at not being impressed in a way.

• 44:10Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 44:10Conan O'Brien?

  Which is what I get in spades. I get that.

• 44:14Speaker 02

  Which I really admire and actually that's kind of what we hoped for, but then occasionally.

• 44:20Speaker 02

  Come on, be a bit impressed with your mummy.

• 44:22Conan O'Brien?

  Exactly, exactly. Yeah.

• 44:28Conan O'Brien?

  Where's my Oscar? Oh, we threw it out. Threw it out!

• 44:32Speaker 04

  Have there been a thing or two where they have recognized it?

• 44:35Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 44:35Speaker 02

  Paddington was.

• 44:37Conan O'Brien?

  Yes.

• 44:37Speaker 02

  My, my youngest was, how long ago was that? Three or four years? So she was quite small and when I said, I'm going to work on Paddington and she said, did you meet him?

• 44:46Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 44:47Speaker 01

  Oh, that's cute.

• 44:48Speaker 02

  Really? I know.

• 44:49Speaker 04

  And what did you say?

• 44:51Speaker 02

  Well, there was, this isn't for younger viewers, is it?

• 44:53Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I hope not.

• 44:56Speaker 02

  Oh, yes, no, I've just thought back to what we've said.

• 44:58Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 44:59Speaker 02

  So, um, there was a photo of all of the cast and crew, but they use Paddington's head on a stick.

• 45:07Speaker 01

  Oh, my God!

• 45:09Speaker 02

  You know, so you have an eye line. And so we also have an actress, Lauren, who is the same height as Paddington, so she does all the words and you see you've got eye line. But occasionally for, when they do the.

• 45:20Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 45:20Speaker 02

  Do you know the silver ball?

• 45:22Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yes, to make sure that you're looking in the exact right way because they've set up the cameras and the lighting and they need it just to be right.

• 45:27Speaker 02

  So his head is on a stick. And so this was in front of all of us and I thought, oh God, I can't show her that. So I was cropping the photo, trying to, so it looked like he was just peering over the.

• 45:40Conan O'Brien?

  Oh.

• 45:41Speaker 02

  I know. And then she saw me on, on The Simpsons and she thought that was very cool.

• 45:45Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 45:45Speaker 02

  Recently.

• 45:46Conan O'Brien?

  Every now and then, you get to shine.

• 45:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, you do get that little side eye, that sort of, oh, okay.

• 45:52Conan O'Brien?

  I mean, so, it's so interesting because the Paddington movies are, score the highest on Rotten Tomatoes and in, in every category. And I think there are, film scholars have said, you should study Paddington 2 because it's.

• 46:05Speaker 02

  Oh, it's the best.

• 46:07Conan O'Brien?

  Perfect.

• 46:08Speaker 02

  It is.

• 46:08Conan O'Brien?

  It is perfect. And you look at it and you think, yes, it is.

• 46:11Speaker 02

  Was it the first one when he did the toothbrush in his ears?

• 46:14Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 46:14Speaker 02

  And you sort of went.

• 46:15Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 46:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:17Conan O'Brien?

  That's why I started doing it.

• 46:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. I feel that way about Fleabag.

• 46:21Conan O'Brien?

  Yes.

• 46:22Speaker 01

  I think Fleabag is one of those like perfect comedies.

• 46:24Speaker 02

  She's a genius.

• 46:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, but also you're a genius in that too.

• 46:28Speaker 02

  Well, that was her telling me what to do.

• 46:31Speaker 01

  But your character is one of my favorites and she's just.

• 46:33Speaker 04

  I first became aware of you in The Office.

• 46:35Speaker 02

  Oh, did you?

• 46:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, and how great you were in that.

• 46:38Conan O'Brien?

  The, that's all this is, is a.

• 46:40Speaker 04

  I know.

• 46:40Conan O'Brien?

  It's gonna devolve into, but you know what? And you know what? We don't normally do this.

• 46:44Speaker 01

  I know, we don't.

• 46:45Conan O'Brien?

  This is just embarrassing, uh, but it's also, it's your fault.

• 46:49Speaker 02

  I'm gonna come back every week.

• 46:50Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, this is like a spa treatment for you.

• 46:52Speaker 02

  Right.

• 46:52Conan O'Brien?

  You're gonna come out and people are gonna be like, you're glowing!

• 46:56Conan O'Brien?

  No, I, uh, Phoebe Waller-Bridg, I, I saw her at an event and she was talking to, it was a, it was a, a, a, a big event that I was at and there was a, a little group of Brits all talking together. And you're gonna have to help me because sometimes when I'm tired and I've been running around a lot, it's coming up with names.

• 47:17Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm rubbish with names.

• 47:18Conan O'Brien?

  Andrew Scott.

• 47:18Speaker 04

  Oh, okay, yeah.

• 47:19Conan O'Brien?

  Andrew Scott was in the group who, who I had just interviewed and he was, he was sitting in your chair and he was lovely.

• 47:24Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, he's divine.

• 47:25Conan O'Brien?

  And then, um, Phoebe Waller-Bridg's, uh, her partner.

• 47:29Speaker 02

  Martin McDonagh?

• 47:30Conan O'Brien?

  Martin McDonagh. So my wife and I are watching Phoebe Waller-Bridg's, Martin McDonagh, Andrew Scott, and they're all in this little group talking to each other.

• 47:39Speaker 02

  Recently, so he's here for, for Wild West Nights.

• 47:41Conan O'Brien?

  No, no, no, this was, this was a couple of months ago.

• 47:43Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 47:43Conan O'Brien?

  At a big wedding, uh, a.

• 47:45Speaker 02

  Oh, that wedding?

• 47:46Conan O'Brien?

  That wedding, yes. And I was not invited. I came in through the kitchen. Um, you know, you can just grab, you can grab a tray and just start walking around and get into anything. But I saw, I mean, everyone in the world was at this wedding, this Taylor Swift wedding. And I look over with my wife and we see those three talking to each other in a tight little British nodule, like this little hard shell talking together. And I felt like it was high school again. Because the three coolest kids in the room were talking and I just wanted to be part of the conversation.

• 48:19Speaker 02

  And you know the three coolest kids, they're not the coolest kids, they're going, we can't believe we're here. Or, they'll have been.

• 48:25Conan O'Brien?

  They looked like they were pretty confident they should be there. And, um, my wife and I were just, we were just sitting there like, oh my God, to be able to, to talk to those, it would, that grouping of those three, and I've never met Phoebe Waller-Bridg and I, I've said to Andrew Scott, like, that would be, she's on my very, very short list, next to you of people I would love to meet, but hasn't happened. And I was maybe 15 feet away and I couldn't do it. I was like, I was like, I can't go over there and risk her having saying, off with you, scum.

• 48:54Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, you'd love her.

• 48:56Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, don't do that.

• 48:57Speaker 02

  Oh, sorry.

• 48:57Conan O'Brien?

  That's making it more difficult for me.

• 48:59Speaker 02

  Sorry.

• 49:00Conan O'Brien?

  I hear she smells like onions. I'm sorry.

• 49:04Speaker 02

  She's one of those people, in any room, you just find yourself shuffling over, you just want to be near her.

• 49:09Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 49:09Speaker 02

  And she's, she is like a light bulb goes on when she looks at you. She's just and kind and funny and clever, self-deprecating, very beautiful.

• 49:19Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, well, anyway.

• 49:22Conan O'Brien?

  Between her and Elizabeth. What was her last name again? Debbie Ecky?

• 49:26Speaker 02

  Debicki.

• 49:27Conan O'Brien?

  Debicki. I always say it wrong. I think it's because I'm a little...

• 49:30Speaker 02

  Say it as it's written.

• 49:30Conan O'Brien?

  What's that? Yeah.

• 49:32Speaker 04

  As you would read it, like a human being.

• 49:35Speaker 02

  I do see what you mean. It's quite easy, isn't it?

• 49:37Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, it is.

• 49:38Speaker 02

  Being mean to it.

• 49:40Speaker 04

  It gets easier and it's harder to resist.

• 49:43Speaker 02

  I'm already feeling it.

• 49:44Conan O'Brien?

  Go for it. Dig into it.

• 49:46Speaker 01

  Go for it.

• 49:46Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, Olivia, anytime you're feeling down or you have a big scene coming up, you can call me. You can reverse the charges. Let's pretend that's still a thing. And I, you can just make fun of me.

• 49:57Speaker 02

  Oh, thank you.

• 49:58Conan O'Brien?

  And then you'll just...

• 50:01Conan O'Brien?

  And it will come very easily.

• 50:02Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah.

• 50:03Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 50:04Speaker 02

  Thanks.

• 50:04Conan O'Brien?

  This has been...

• 50:06Speaker 02

  It's a mark of affection, though, clearly.

• 50:08Conan O'Brien?

  Sure. This has been, this is one of my favorite days. It really is. It's one of my favorite days. We've been doing this for a long time, but you are an absolute joy and I was a little...

• 50:19Speaker 02

  I don't want to go. Are you wrapping it up?

• 50:20Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. I'm wrapping it up because we're...

• 50:21Speaker 04

  No, don't. Well, you can go.

• 50:27Conan O'Brien?

  I always assume you've got all these other things to get to.

• 50:29Speaker 02

  I don't want to go to them. Let's just stay here.

• 50:31Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, well, we have nine more reasons why you're the best person that I've ever met.

• 50:36Conan O'Brien?

  If you'd like to hear them. I was a little intimidated to meet you and then I walk into the kitchen and you're making yourself a cup of tea.

• 50:45Speaker 02

  That's because I'm a cunt.

• 50:54Conan O'Brien?

  This is why you never get tea commercials. You love tea. You love tea.

• 50:59Speaker 02

  I love tea.

• 50:59Conan O'Brien?

  And it's, I know it's such a, I'd be embarrassed to offer a Brit some tea because I would think I'm, oh, why don't you offer them, you know, would want to borrow my chimney sweep? You know, it just feels like an over the top...

• 51:12Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 51:14Conan O'Brien?

  You know, it just feels like an over the top, you know, like, oh, I don't want to be corny.

• 51:17Speaker 04

  It's too on the nose, is what you're saying.

• 51:18Conan O'Brien?

  It's too on the nose. And yet you, there you are. You love tea.

• 51:22Speaker 02

  I love tea. I travel with my own tea bags. That's what that's...

• 51:25Speaker 01

  I was just gonna ask you.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  Yeah. Which I forgot to bring.

• 51:27Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, what do you drink?

• 51:28Speaker 02

  I like Yorkshire Gold. And there's, you know, get them. They're lovely. There's just Yorkshire tea, but Yorkshire Gold, I just prefer. It's not the posher tea. It's just really nice.

• 51:39Conan O'Brien?

  How do you take your tea?

• 51:40Speaker 02

  Well, thanks for asking. So I put the, and these are tea bags and you'll get people going, that's not how you drink tea. Fuck off. This is how I have my tea.

• 51:48Conan O'Brien?

  There we go. There we go.

• 51:49Speaker 02

  Tea bag and boiling water onto the tea bag because then it goes whoosh and you get lovely flavor. It doesn't scold the tea, as someone says. That's nonsense.

• 51:57Conan O'Brien?

  I hate that person.

• 51:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:00Speaker 02

  Maybe if they're having posher tea, it might, but tea bags are made for boiling water. Boiling water, I like a good squidge. Oh, you can see the color. So I like dark tea.

• 52:08Conan O'Brien?

  You like dark tea, but you put milk in it?

• 52:10Speaker 02

  I put a little bit of milk in.

• 52:12Conan O'Brien?

  Is that how most British people like their tea is with some milk?

• 52:17Speaker 02

  Yes, I think so. It's quite chic and European to have tea with no milk. Quite French.

• 52:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:23Speaker 02

  I'd love to be more chic and French about it, but I like cheap tea.

• 52:28Conan O'Brien?

  No, but also the people I've talked to, including a beetle or two, that's the way they, they think of it almost as like part tea, part milk. You know what I mean?

• 52:38Speaker 02

  So I have...

• 52:38Conan O'Brien?

  I'm sorry.

• 52:39Speaker 04

  Sorry, I was just such a flex to say a beetle or two.

• 52:43Speaker 01

  Beetle or two.

• 52:43Conan O'Brien?

  I'm sorry.

• 52:44Speaker 04

  Not even one beetle.

• 52:45Conan O'Brien?

  I meant three.

• 52:47Speaker 02

  Did you meet three? Come on, who?

• 52:49Conan O'Brien?

  I was, well, Ringo, he's just always around wherever you go. Anytime I go to buy cleaning supplies for my pool, he's there. He's working there. No, Ringo's delight and Paul, many, many times. I've been very fortunate that way. George, I was working at Saturday Night Live and it was about 1990. I was a writer there. And he was out with the producer, Lorne Michaels, and they were out on a night on the town. And then he came back. We were all there at like one in the morning and suddenly George walked in and started talking to us and I, my soul left my body and has never come back. Apparently.

• 53:25Speaker 02

  God, I can imagine.

• 53:27Conan O'Brien?

  So, yeah. But enough about me. What's the list more famous people I've met?

• 53:33Conan O'Brien?

  Paddington, I saw him. Actually did meet Paddington. I was at some event and the person who plays Paddington, I believe, in the show.

• 53:41Speaker 02

  Lauren?

• 53:42Conan O'Brien?

  Yes. She was, she was all...

• 53:44Speaker 02

  Was she wearing the hat and everything?

• 53:45Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, I think she was dressed up as Paddington. I was introduced to Paddington, to Lauren, and the person who does the voice, and I was starstruck.

• 53:54Speaker 02

  Wow, yeah.

• 53:55Conan O'Brien?

  I was, I was like, oh, my God. And then I, you know, called my wife.

• 53:58Speaker 04

  The voice from the movie?

• 54:00Speaker 02

  Ben Whishaw.

• 54:00Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 54:01Speaker 04

  Q.

• 54:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, Q. This has gone full circle. This is very clever.

• 54:04Conan O'Brien?

  I don't remember. It's all a blur because when you're talking to Paddington and two people are involved, it gets confusing. But it was, again, a, an insane moment for me to meet Paddington. And then I think I creeped Paddington out. Paddington said I need to make a phone call and left. And then security came.

• 54:25Conan O'Brien?

  I want to let you go out and tell many more people about Wicker because I think it's extraordinary. It's lovely. It's funny. It's sweet. And you will have all the feelings watching Wicker and it's just beautifully done.

• 54:38Speaker 02

  I know what I was gonna say.

• 54:38Conan O'Brien?

  Yes.

• 54:39Speaker 02

  Weta Workshop, who made, it's a completely practical suit. It's no CGI. So I think that's important for people to know.

• 54:47Conan O'Brien?

  Yes. And I think you can kind of tell too. It is beautifully made.

• 54:51Speaker 02

  So beautiful. It's a work of art. There is CGI when he holds his hand up and you can see through the wicker at one point, but that's it. It's absolutely as you see him.

• 54:59Conan O'Brien?

  Whatever you needed to do is okay, but to know, you can tell it's all practical, that this is beautiful artisanal work.

• 55:07Speaker 04

  How does one get one of these Wicker suits? Is there any...

• 55:10Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 55:12Conan O'Brien?

  And how does, yeah, and how will it give me the riz of an Alexander Skarsgård?

• 55:16Speaker 04

  And how does one not get arrested when wearing this Wicker suit?

• 55:21Conan O'Brien?

  You and I are gonna get...

• 55:22Speaker 02

  Good question.

• 55:22Conan O'Brien?

  You and I are gonna get these and we're gonna walk around the mall and try to talk to people.

• 55:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:26Speaker 04

  Yeah. Maybe there's just enough here that I could make one.

• 55:31Speaker 02

  Get them all together. At least you could do the top half and then go wear a suit.

• 55:36Speaker 04

  I'll be like Wicker face, like Leatherface, basically what it'll be.

• 55:41Conan O'Brien?

  Olivia, I cannot thank you enough for stopping by. You are welcome here anytime. And if you just need people to tell you how extraordinary you are because you're not getting that from your family, you can come here to our offices anytime and we will love you up.

• 55:56Speaker 02

  You might regret saying that.

• 55:58Conan O'Brien?

  No, I don't think so. I think you'll regret it. You'll be like, can I come by? Will Conan be there? Well, maybe not. Maybe not this time. But thank you so much and congratulations on Wicker. It's just, it's lovely.

• 56:10Speaker 02

  Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. I've had a lovely time.

• 56:20Conan O'Brien?

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• 56:30Speaker 01

  Same.

• 56:31Conan O'Brien?

  Especially when I'm back in the Northeast driving around. I mean, I grew up with that.

• 56:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:35Conan O'Brien?

  Cars were red. The salt on the road, people throwing rocks at me.

• 56:39Speaker 01

  What?

• 56:40Conan O'Brien?

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• 57:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:06Conan O'Brien?

  And the salt would eat away the car. We actually did have a Chevy. My dad had a Chevy Impala and the floor rusted out and you could see the road going by.

• 57:14Speaker 01

  Oh, what?

• 57:15Conan O'Brien?

  We were praying for WeatherTech and we didn't even know it. That was before it existed.

• 57:20Speaker 01

  That's cool.

• 57:20Conan O'Brien?

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• 57:26Conan O'Brien?

  Coca-Cola Zero Sugar is so good, it's almost impossible not to finish it before the meal arrives. It's just too good to wait. That happens to me sometimes.

• 57:35Speaker 01

  Me too.

• 57:35Conan O'Brien?

  You can try rules like no sipping until the appetizer arrives or you tell your friend, don't let me touch my glass. But every time you're staring at an empty glass, so if you've ever finished your Coke Zero before the first fry hits the table, you're among friends. It happens. Occupational hazard with Coke Zero.

• 57:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:54Conan O'Brien?

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• 58:05Conan O'Brien?

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• 59:17Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, I'm in the dark here. I do not know what's coming, but I've just been informed by, by Blay that he has something he wants to show us. Blay, what you got? Uh, yeah, well, as you guys probably know, I am on Reddit a lot, so I'm keeping an eye on the pulse of what fans are- You don't keep an eye on the pulse. Oh, okay. You keep your finger on the pulse. Okay. Well, I'm either keeping an eye on Reddit, or I'm keeping my finger on the pulse. You'd be a terrible doctor-

• 59:41Speaker 01

  An eye on the prize.

• 59:42Conan O'Brien?

  If you looked at a patient and said, "The pulse looks okay." On Reddit, people- He died four hours ago. You can smell him at this point.

• 59:52Conan O'Brien?

  So, whatever your metaphor, I look at Reddit a lot, and I see what people are saying in the Conan subreddit. And people will tag me, fans will tag me, on things that they might want us to talk about on the podcast. Incredible. And a fan named Metaphysical Melodies tagged me on this video, and was like, "You guys have to talk about this on the podcast. Does Conan know about this? Do you guys know about this?" And so, we're gonna show you a little video.

• 1:00:19Speaker 04

  Okay. Can I just say really quickly, we were talking about segments via email, and Adam and Blay were saying, "Should we do that thing I slacked you about, which left me out of the loop?" So, I know this has something to do with me, I'm sure.

• 1:00:30Conan O'Brien?

  So, let's, uh-

• 1:00:32Speaker 04

  I'm nervous.

• 1:00:33Speaker 01

  None of us know.

• 1:00:34Conan O'Brien?

  Let's put our eyes- I don't know what this is. On the screen, and here we go.

• 1:00:38Speaker 04

  Oh, Christ.

• 1:00:39Speaker 01

  Oh, my God. Matthew.

• 1:00:44Speaker 01

  Baby, I can explain. Hey, man, I didn't, I didn't know.

• 1:00:49Speaker 01

  How could you do this to me?

• 1:00:53Speaker 01

  Hey, The Conan O'Brien Show's on.

• 1:00:55Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, I love Conan O'Brien. Really? I hate Conan O'Brien. I love Conan O'Brien. Hey, dude, that was some great sex. Yeah, it was.

• 1:01:08Conan O'Brien?

  That's fantastic. Wait a minute, I have so many questions.

• 1:01:10Speaker 04

  Oh, God.

• 1:01:11Conan O'Brien?

  When did you make this?

• 1:01:12Speaker 04

  I can't believe it's taken this long for this to get here.

• 1:01:16Conan O'Brien?

  Matt!

• 1:01:16Speaker 04

  I've always known this was out there.

• 1:01:17Speaker 01

  That's existed this whole time?

• 1:01:19Speaker 04

  That's existed for, uh-

• 1:01:21Conan O'Brien?

  I'm gonna clean up something, because I know there are people that still just listen to the podcast. We just saw a very, uh, it's a funny sketch about you surprising your wife and another guy in bed, and getting upset, and pulling a gun, and then the guy suggests, "Conan, let's watch Conan O'Brien." Now, this is years before we met. When was this made? This must've been made in the 90s.

• 1:01:45Speaker 04

  No, this was 15 years ago, maybe?

• 1:01:47Conan O'Brien?

  I think it's, I think it's 18 years.

• 1:01:49Speaker 04

  Is it?

• 1:01:49Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:01:49Speaker 04

  Okay, wow. Yeah, I have no idea.

• 1:01:51Speaker 01

  That's not that long ago.

• 1:01:55Speaker 04

  Um, wow. What do you mean by that?

• 1:01:57Speaker 01

  It's not that long ago. I'm saying it's still pretty fresh. I thought it was like 25 years ago.

• 1:02:05Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, well, let's not get bogged down on the, on the dates.

• 1:02:08Speaker 01

  We did that like a few years before you started on our podcast.

• 1:02:12Speaker 04

  No. What are you talking about? That was 10 good years before.

• 1:02:16Conan O'Brien?

  Wait a minute. So, it's 2008, is what you're saying. Uh, it's 2008, so that's towards the end of my late-night run. And there's a, there's an artistic choice here, which is, the guys like Conan O'Brien, the blonde woman doesn't like Conan O'Brien.

• 1:02:31Speaker 01

  She hates you.

• 1:02:31Speaker 04

  I should probably tell you what the origin of this thing is.

• 1:02:33Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:02:34Speaker 04

  It was, I, you might be able to fill in the blanks more than me. I have a vague memory of this, because my friend, Fred Belford, who himself was a very funny comic and writer, was contributing this for a contest, for a promo for your show or something.

• 1:02:49Conan O'Brien?

  I don't have any memory, yeah.

• 1:02:50Speaker 04

  He put me in it. That's all I really know about it. So, I was just an actor.

• 1:02:54Conan O'Brien?

  Where did this go? Was this just online? Was there an online then? I forget.

• 1:02:58Speaker 04

  I don't know. That's the thing, I really wish I could tell you.

• 1:03:00Speaker 01

  Was that on VHS?

• 1:03:01Speaker 04

  No, it was like an early internet-

• 1:03:03Speaker 01

  It was a thing. Okay.

• 1:03:04Speaker 04

  Like YouTube video thing.

• 1:03:05Conan O'Brien?

  Do we know where, what it was made for? Well, so, I used to run the website, Late Night Underground, and so, it was for the website that I ran. I don't remember what the context was. I think we had a call for, um, yeah, it was a make-your-own-commercial contest.

• 1:03:19Speaker 04

  Oh, cool.

• 1:03:19Conan O'Brien?

  Uh, so, yeah, it was, it was in 2008. How did that do? Because that's very funny. I don't think we picked it.

• 1:03:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't think so either.

• 1:03:26Conan O'Brien?

  I don't remember. I don't remember how it did. But, but, uh- Someone probably, someone probably flagged, "Women love Conan. We, we can't run this."

• 1:03:34Speaker 04

  No, they're like, "This is just too factual."

• 1:03:37Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:38Speaker 04

  I'm surprised some of these things haven't come up sooner, and you know, we've outed me for things-

• 1:03:41Speaker 01

  Some of these things.

• 1:03:42Speaker 04

  Well, there's some other things. Uh, I almost feel like I oughta get ahead of them, you know?

• 1:03:46Speaker 01

  What else, Matt? Okay.

• 1:03:47Speaker 04

  Uh, but one of them-

• 1:03:48Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, you're like a, you're like a candidate for president who, you can't wait until the fans find out, and it leaks online, and then you're, you know, it doesn't gonna work.

• 1:03:58Speaker 04

  This is not one of those, but you know, you've told the story about how you submitted for Letterman, and you were happy that you didn't get in, and I think even Colbert said he submitted for your show.

• 1:04:06Conan O'Brien?

  Yes, he did, yeah.

• 1:04:06Speaker 04

  I submitted a writer packet for your show through, Todd Levin asked me, and then I think you guys didn't end up taking on an extra writer or something like that, but I still have the-

• 1:04:15Conan O'Brien?

  I have no, I have no idea.

• 1:04:16Speaker 04

  The writer's packet I submitted to be a writer on your show, like, I don't know, 15 years ago or something like that.

• 1:04:21Conan O'Brien?

  I, um, I, I remember them handing me a packet for Matt Gourley, and they said, "Give this a read," and I just held the packet for a second, and I, and I said, "I am suddenly enraged and irritated," and I dropped it like it was being handed a hot Skittle.

• 1:04:37Speaker 01

  You need to come clean. I mean, we found out about your Shakespeare t-shirt thing way too late. I wanna know if there's anything else. There's gotta be other stuff.

• 1:04:45Speaker 04

  Can I say something?

• 1:04:45Conan O'Brien?

  Hey, man, I swear that's it.

• 1:04:47Speaker 01

  Oh, I don't believe it.

• 1:04:49Conan O'Brien?

  I swear, man, no, it's cool, it's cool. There are, there are Gourley victims buried all around the Pacific Northwest.

• 1:04:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:54Conan O'Brien?

  Uh, it's just whole Potter's fields filled with his victims. Um-

• 1:04:58Speaker 04

  But I remember when this show started, I think that, I think I had a Vimeo, like, reel page where my commercials and stuff were on there that I had done, and that was on there, and I very quickly took that down.

• 1:05:10Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:05:11Speaker 04

  And I don't know how someone found it and put this up. I really don't.

• 1:05:14Speaker 01

  If we search Matt Gourley on YouTube, does that pop up?

• 1:05:18Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 1:05:19Speaker 01

  I mean, I think I've heard a lot about your incest guy on Community.

• 1:05:23Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:05:24Speaker 01

  The incest writer.

• 1:05:25Conan O'Brien?

  Oh.

• 1:05:26Speaker 01

  Have you heard about that?

• 1:05:27Conan O'Brien?

  I don't think so.

• 1:05:28Speaker 01

  It was like the incest episode of Community, and then he came on at the end.

• 1:05:33Conan O'Brien?

  You were in an episode of Community?

• 1:05:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:05:34Conan O'Brien?

  Incredible.

• 1:05:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, actually, Amanda and I are in the same episode, but unrelated, playing different parts. Yeah.

• 1:05:39Conan O'Brien?

  Were you, but you, were you together then?

• 1:05:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:05:42Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, you were, okay. No, we need to be on the hunt for more Matt Gourley-

• 1:05:47Speaker 04

  Oh, there, there's-

• 1:05:48Conan O'Brien?

  Hidden Matt Gourley gems, because they're everywhere. You know they are.

• 1:05:51Speaker 04

  Have, have we gone through your commercials?

• 1:05:53Conan O'Brien?

  No.

• 1:05:54Speaker 04

  But, you know, interestingly enough-

• 1:05:55Conan O'Brien?

  We did? We did once.

• 1:05:56Speaker 04

  Oh, we did?

• 1:05:57Conan O'Brien?

  One of your car commercials. What I'm saying is, there's probably more out there. You know, you know that this guy, he's been active. He's been active for a long time.

• 1:06:06Speaker 04

  Here's one I will challenge people to find.

• 1:06:08Conan O'Brien?

  Okay. Good, good, good, good, good, good.

• 1:06:11Speaker 04

  There is, there's an NBC show called Blind Spot for a while, about a, a woman who was tattooed and lost her memory and everything.

• 1:06:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:19Speaker 04

  I play a villain on that in a couple episodes, but there is, there is a clip someone sent me, shout out to Umar, uh, of an Italian dubbed version of me being a villain, speaking like-

• 1:06:37Conan O'Brien?

  Why do they dub you when you can do it?

• 1:06:39Speaker 01

  So, how manly is your Italian voice?

• 1:06:41Conan O'Brien?

  Doesn't matter if it's gibberish.

• 1:06:43Speaker 04

  Well, that's the thing, the voice coming out of me is so much more like villainous and manly.

• 1:06:55Speaker 04

  If that's still out there, and you could find that, that would be worth it. But, let's, there's nothing else. That's it. That's the very last thing.

• 1:07:01Conan O'Brien?

  I've gotta find the videos I made, uh, when it was a how-to sell musical instruments for some musical-

• 1:07:06Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, you've talked about that.

• 1:07:07Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, exactly. I've talked about it.

• 1:07:08Speaker 04

  Do you have them, or does someone?

• 1:07:10Conan O'Brien?

  I believe I might have them, but that's, I mean, I have a Charles Foster Kane warehouse filled with, you know, masturbating bears, and, uh, we, old, I mean, this is on a brick. This is on a giant, like, one and a half inch, uh, you know, some format that, we wouldn't be able to find a machine to play it anymore, but, um, yeah.

• 1:07:30Speaker 04

  Oh, God, I'm just realizing, we haven't even touched, I've been on so many game shows.

• 1:07:36Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:07:37Speaker 04

  I can't even count.

• 1:07:37Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, you heard it here. We are on the hunt for anything where Matt Gourley shows up, makes an appearance, plays a character, or is, or is even in the background, uh, you know, pacing while a local news reporter is talking about a motorcycle accident. On Fifth and Cowinga.

• 1:07:57Speaker 01

  Do you win a lot?

• 1:07:59Speaker 04

  I, I most, I mostly did, yeah.

• 1:08:01Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:02Speaker 01

  Oh, you would.

• 1:08:02Conan O'Brien?

  You go to his house, and it's just, all the furniture is made of Turtle Wax cans. I remember when the prize used to be Turtle Wax. That's a 60s or 70s thing, I think.

• 1:08:11Speaker 04

  I know, and every wardrobe was furnished by Buttoni 500.

• 1:08:14Conan O'Brien?

  Buttoni 500.

• 1:08:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, Buttoni 500.

• 1:08:16Speaker 04

  Okay, all right. Well, it's time to wrap. We, there's nothing else we've covered at all.

• 1:08:21Conan O'Brien?

  All right. That's your task, everybody. Get to it. Bring us the Gourley goods.

• 1:08:28Speaker 04

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• 1:08:48Speaker 04

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