Trump's BIG Beautiful Bill, Golden Dome SHOCKER & South Africa SHOWDOWN | PBD Podcast | Ep. 590

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover Trump’s unveiling of his “Golden Dome” plan, his showdown with South Africa’s president over alleged genocide, and Dan Bongino's shocking claims about Trump's July 13th assassination attempt. ------ 🖥️ VT WEBINAR: HOW TO BE A KILLER IN BUSINESS WITHOUT KILLING YOUR MARRIAGE | JUNE 11TH | 12:30PM: https://bit.ly/4hVTkPK 📺 SUBCRIBE TO HER TAKE: https://bit.ly/4k95Tb6 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam, what's your plan? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:16Speaker 03

  You are a one of one? My son's right there.

• 1:18Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, all right. So a lot of stories. Just this morning, the big, beautiful bill passed. Speaker Johnson, all of them are giving the speech. We'll talk about that. A lot of thoughts on that one right there. I want to read a story to some of you guys. Parents, I'm not going to say earmuffs. I'm going to say be by yourself because you're probably going to get emotional. Last night, my wife is telling me, babe, read this Instagram thing. And she sends it to me, was sent to her by Merle. And I'm sitting there reading it. I'm like, are you? Why are you having me read something like this at 10:30 at night? I have to read it to all of you. Parents, you're going to love it. And then I got something I want to introduce to you guys that has to do with that, which I think the timing is perfect.

• 2:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump says Biden didn't destroy the country accuses or other treasonous thugs instead. He actually was complimentary about Biden would never open the border. He said, "The Biden we know would never open the border." Dan Bongino drops truth bombs about FBI assassination investigation with Epstein. And he says Epstein didn't kill himself. Somebody killed him. Epstein killed himself. He committed suicide. And I mean, obviously, I have a lot of thoughts. Vinnie has no thoughts on that, but some of us have some thoughts on it. Trump ambushes South African president in Oval Office with claims of wide persecution. Keep that word in mind. Ambushes. Okay, that's the new word. Remember insurrection? That nobody had ever used that word insurrection?

• 2:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember all those words that you all of a sudden learn like they teach you vocabulary? You're about to learn the word ambushes by so many different outlets. Rob, I'm sure you have that video and the story as well. We'll cover that here. MSNBC's Joe Scarborough had a rough, just a rough day. You gotta feel bad for this guy, but maybe you don't. Joe Scarborough forced to explain why he thought Biden was at his best year. And he was confronted over and over and over again. It was uncomfortable. So was Jake Tapper by Megyn Kelly. Megyn Kelly showed to the market why she's one of the best journalists in the world. You don't have to like her, but you have to respect the fact that she's one of the best journalists in the world. So talented, so talented on what she did. And we'll definitely show that as well. The View had a meltdown over Tapper's Biden cover-up.

• 3:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Slam CNN for hawking it. And Jon Stewart wasn't even happy about it. Jon Stewart said, "This guy's just out there trying to sell books." And by the way, it's not really, the book isn't doing that well. If you go look at the reviews, I don't know if I see a lot of good over there. Mortgage rates move above 7% after Moody's downgrade of US credit. Israel preparing to strike Iran's nuclear facilities even as Trump tries to negotiate the deal. And just, is it last night or this morning? Just this morning. Two people, two Israeli folks were killed at the Israeli embassy. And you see the video of this man running around screaming, hollering. This just happened, I think, this morning, right?

• 4:09Tom Ellsworth?

  In Washington DC.

• 4:10Patrick Bet-David?

  In Washington.

• 4:11Tom Ellsworth?

  In America.

• 4:11Patrick Bet-David?

  We're not talking about another country. In Washington. DC Rob, I don't know if you have that clip. We won't show the shooting, but we show you the clip. Ron DeSantis fall from grace. He'll completely crashed, he completely crashed out to the ground. This is from the Guardian. And there's some accusations with this $10 million stuff that he and his wife are a part of. I have some opinions on that. It's not going to be what you think I'm going to say. But I have some opinions on that. AOC seen as face of Democratic Party and it's not even close. AOC is now the face of the Democratic Party. Biden official knew about downplayed myocarditis risk from COVID-19 vaccine. Senate report alleges, you have to see the hearing. On RFK, is that the one with RFK, Rob? If we have that RFK one as well, that'd be fantastic. Peter McCullough as well, I gotta get some clips of him.

• 4:54Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll show that. Make sure you send it his way so he has some business news. Remember when we said State Farm? California approved that their rates would increase by 17%. They're not happy about it. They said they need a 30%. Which could cause State Farm to possibly leave the great state of California. And go to a different place. Imagine being the fourth biggest economy in the world and people don't want to do business with you. Why do you think they don't want to do business with you? Majority of US companies say they have to raise prices due to Trump's tariffs. Home Depot says it will keep prices low. Despite pressures. From Trump tariff Jaguar, remember Jaguar, they did this ad that we were all supposed to turn transgender and buy their new car. Oh no, I did, I got it. Well, we know you did, but I'm just saying most people, right? Jaguar says it has no intention of manufacturing cars in the US.

• 5:40Patrick Bet-David?

  And they have to now change their campaign because that last campaign they had. Didn't do that well with the new car that came up. Rob, if you don't have that story. With it, maybe combine it with the other one. Diddy carried pills. This is a little weird. People Magazine, this is coming from People Magazine. Diddy carried pills with Obama's face on them? Weird. Ex assistant testifies? Weird. It's a little weird. I don't know what it is. And they have some, they still save some. Familiar with the story. Little weird, but. You think? Two huge names on the verge of quitting CBS. News amid Trump's lawsuit. Gayle King's 13 year career at CBS News may finally be coming to an end. And Tom's got some thoughts on that. Joe Rogan left shocked by sinister Mark Zuckerberg's brainwashing experiment. That warped minds of 700,000 people.

• 6:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know much about that story, but we will definitely see what that clip is about.

• 6:26Speaker 05

  And Pat, just to not to cut you off, so the shooting of the two Israeli embassy staffers was last night.

• 6:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Last night, happened last night, not this morning. Yes, okay. And then, uh, South Africa, we'll talk about that. When he, when the president's like, oh, really? You don't do anything to hide, there's not a, can you play that clip? Can you turn off the lights? You have to see what this guy does there. And those are some of the stories. Now, let me read you the story that I want to read you before we start the podcast. Parents, just realize, it may get you a bit emotional because it definitely got me thinking about certain things. All right, so let me play this to you. Let me read this to you. Uh, for what it's worth. Let me see where this one is. It was a, uh, boom, boom, boom. All right, let me go from here. I'll find it from this.

• 7:10Speaker 05

  Are you trying to make us cry?

• 7:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, let me tell you, man. You know, there's something about family, right? There's something about family, beautiful families, you know, people you love. This story is sent to me yesterday.

• 7:23Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 7:24Patrick Bet-David?

  It says, I'm eighty-five years old, and somehow I woke up in my thirty-six-year-old body, okay? Just for one day. This time, I knew what to treasure. Let's go to the next one. So she's eighty-five years old, wakes up in thirty-six-year-old body. I hear a tiny voice before I open my eyes, Mama, wake up. I blink. He's standing there. Bedhead, pajama, pants too short. My little boy, he's small again. Go to the next one. He climbs into my bed, laughing. He wraps his arm around my neck. I used to check the clock, rush the morning, but not today. Today I hold him, tight, long and deep. Go next.

• 8:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I walk to the mirror, no gray, no wrinkles, no aches in my knees, just me, thirty-six, tired but strong.

• 8:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob. My husband is in the kitchen, making coffee. He smiles when he sees me. Younger, softer, so familiar. I wrap my arms around him. This time, I don't let go quickly. We used to rush past each other. Today, I hold him close and whisper, "Thank you." The kitchen floor is sticky. Lego underfoot, socks on the counter. I used to sigh, feel behind, get frustrated, but now I stand still and just soak it all in. My little son chatters all through breakfast, stories about superheroes and questions about monsters. This time, I listen, really listen. No phone, no distractions, just him. All his beautiful, curious voice.

• 8:57Patrick Bet-David?

  In the car, he sings loudly, kicks the seat, spills a snack. I used to snap, now I smile and enjoy the moment because one day, the seat will be empty and I'll miss the noise. In the evening, I pick up the phone and I hear my mom's voice. Tears fill my eyes before I said a word. I forget how much comfort lives in her voice. We talked about nothing, the weather, what she is cooking, but it means everything. I tell her I love her again and again. I don't want to hang up. At bedtime, I didn't rush. He picks his favorite superhero book, the one I've read 100 times. Tonight, I read every single word slowly. And then I ask, "One more?"

• 9:42Patrick Bet-David?

  He nods. I don't want this night to end. He whispered, "You're the best mom." I hold his small hand, kiss his soft cheek, whisper how proud I am. His lashes flutter, his chest rises and falls, and I just watch soaking it in. Tomorrow, I will be 85 again and he will be grown. Busy, bigger, out in the world. But tonight, I got this precious moment and now I know, this was joy, this was love, this was everything. If you're living in the moment now, don't rush through it. The little hand in yours, the bedtime stories, the mess, the noise, it all matters more than you know.

• 10:23Patrick Bet-David?

  When you read a story like this, man.

• 10:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Jesus, Pat. I mean, you wanna start us off by crying? I gotta call my mom now.

• 10:30Speaker 05

  Rob's a mess. Tom's a mess. Everybody's.

• 10:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you.

• 10:33Tom Ellsworth?

  The fact that Tom isn't actually crying right now. He is. I see it. I appreciate you, Tom.

• 10:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm reading this video last night. You know what's crazy? You guys sent me this video last night with, you know, this lady that hit the ICE agent. And she's singing this song, right? I know it's gonna make no sense, but if you play this here, I'm gonna tell you how all this matches up together. Go ahead and play this.

• 10:53Tom Ellsworth?

  You are now facing a federal charge, though. Are you afraid of what's gonna transpire now?

• 11:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You fight on. You can lower this rock, because the mood changed really quickly. You fight on. You fight on. When your government is doing. So, I'm in the car.

• 11:16Tom Ellsworth?

  How does she not respond?

• 11:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you what happened. Tico, yesterday, school's coming to an end, so they're doing swing and all this stuff. So he's been out in the sun for eight hours. His body is red.

• 11:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, God.

• 11:25Patrick Bet-David?

  So he can't put a shirt on. And we have this, this, this alloy that you put, but it's old. So I take it in the Publix, and that's the moment you send it. So I'm playing this. He said, "What is she doing?" I said, "Watch, I'm gonna sing it in Publix in front of everybody." We're in the Publix. Tico gets embarrassed. I am screaming this song off the top of my lungs. And he is hugging, you know how he pushes, like, to not do anything? We had the most incredible 30-minute drive, going there, fooling around, bought some carrot juice, finally found the alloy. I asked this lady, "I need some alloy gel." The lady takes me and gives me coconuts and alloy. I said, "I didn't say I want coconut. I want alloy to gel, right?" We come back, we're laughing. Then we're in the house. We're sitting there, he's showing me all this stuff from Stranger Things,

• 12:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Stranger Things, whatever, Stranger Things, the show. And he's like, "But this and this." And I'm like, "Dude, I really don't wanna hear this stuff." And I'm just listening to him say the stories. And we're in bed, it's 10:15, 10:30. He's still talking to Tico, "You gotta go to sleep." Then I go to my bed. Then Jennifer gives me this. I read this. The moment I read it, I get up, I'm like, "Dude, I gotta go." She's like, "Where are you going?" I go back to Tico. I said, "Finish your story about Stranger Things." What was it? And he sits up, dude, he was so excited to tell me all about it. And he says, "Will you watch it with me when we go for vacation and all this other stuff?"

• 12:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that not awesome, bro? Like, when you get some messages like this that inspire the hell out of you and just kind of... "We're 46, 47, Vinny." The famous line.

• 12:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, we're gonna be in 20 years.

• 12:56Tom Ellsworth?

  The girl passed.

• 12:57Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna wake up tomorrow and be 85. What we're doing called "Family" is so awesome. But it's gonna go by so quick, man. It's gonna go by so quick. And it's so weird, because I had no intentions of showing this to you guys, but, you know, for me, we're sitting there, we're thinking about, we have the Volcon Conference that's coming up, we do this once a year, this year, we're expecting 12,000 people. The last year, we had 1,500,000 men and wives that were there. And one of the things, the guys, the David Consulting, they say a lot of people ask about, you know, how to balance this with family and the kids and all this other stuff? How do you do this? I said, "Listen, why don't we just do this? Why don't we just do a free webinar on family? How to be a killer in business without killing your marriage?" And I said, "I'm gonna talk about all the mistakes I've made, okay? And we're gonna talk about how we balance all this stuff together."

• 13:42Patrick Bet-David?

  So that picture they put together, for some of you guys that think that's really me with all those hints, it's not. It's just a great job. Shout out to our guys at Graphic Design. Rob, if you wanna play the clip, go ahead and play the clip. And put this in the calendar, so you know what the date is. Go ahead, Rob. You know what's scary for some people is they wanna be a killer in business. They wanna do a great job as an executive, as a CEO, entrepreneur, business owner, but they don't wanna kill their marriage. So how do you balance that out? You wanna go make all the money, travel, win for your family, but you wanna stay married, you wanna have good relations with your kids, you want your kids to still wanna see... How do you do this? There's four things, by the way. You ready? Write these down. Number one, you're allowing your family and friends to make you feel guilty for your vision, which is gonna create resentment towards them. You don't want that. Number two is, you lack clarity on the vision. You don't really know what you're doing it for.

• 14:25Patrick Bet-David?

  So work-life balance is a question that comes up for people that are not clear of what they wanna do, they haven't had the conversation with their family. Number three is the concept of being intentional with the time you're spending with your family. And number four is, maybe you're just looking for an excuse to not work that hard, 'cause your family's not bothering you. You're just looking for it. This concept of work-life balance comes up every single day with people who ask me this question. On June 11th, I'm hosting a free webinar for one hour to talk about work-life Balance with the people that don't have the answer to the questions there. Just like I didn't have it at that time. I'm married now with four kids. Running all these businesses. Some days you feel like you can't, you don't know what the hell you're doing. All I'm gonna do is share with you mistakes I've made and things that are working for me.

• 15:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So if it's important to you, get registered. Tell your wife, your husband, get everybody on together to listen up. We're gonna go through it for one hour again on June 11th. Register because it's limited seating on this webinar. I'll see you there. Come join us guys, June 11th, 12:30. Put it in your calendar. By the way, I may have my wife and one of my kids maybe join me as well. Rob, what is the website for them to go register for this free webinar? Uh, VTwebinar.com. VTwebinar.com. We have limited to 3,000 seats, so just make sure you go get registered again, VTwebinar.com.

• 15:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Can I say one thing about this?

• 15:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 15:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Cause you've done how many webinars, I mean, the last?

• 15:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I've done a lot of webinars, but we've never done a webinar on this. This has been coming up a lot the last?

• 15:45Tom Ellsworth?

  In my opinion, based on the conversations I have with everyone out there, this actually might be the most important webinar you've ever done, in my opinion. Because sometimes when you do an AI webinar or a business webinar or a real estate webinar, it's very specific and very niche and that's great. Everyone deals with this. We're all dealing with this.

• 16:03Patrick Bet-David?

  You know why I've never done this? You know why I don't like to do a lot? Like they asked me to write a parenting book because you're still figuring it out. Like I'm in the process of figuring it out. I'm in the process of learning this stuff, but I can't wait to have this one with you guys.

• 16:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you know the secret.

• 16:14Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna have a lot of fun with this.

• 16:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Pat is-

• 16:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Stay single, don't own a car.

• 16:17Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no. Pat is actually a vampire. He does not sleep. I know Vinnie dressed up as a vampire one time. In Romania. In Romania, Transylvania, and rotate.

• 16:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways, okay.

• 16:27Tom Ellsworth?

  PBD don't sleep.

• 16:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's get right into it. And you know what? I want to start off with business. I want to start off with business because there's a lot of stuff that's going on right now. And the business part of it is the new bill, the big beautiful bill that the president was talking about because this has to do with taxes. This has to do with how you're gonna be paying taxes moving forward. A lot of people didn't think this was gonna get done. There was a lot of challenges with it, but it eventually ended up happening. And I'm gonna read some stuff here, Rob. I think you also have the whole thing in place if you want to play the clip. The House Rule Committee approved President Trump's big beautiful bill in an eight to four vote with Speaker Johnson stating at 1 a.m. Wednesday. Very close to resolving GOP disputes, enabling a potential housewide vote by Wednesday night

• 17:12Patrick Bet-David?

  or early Thursday morning. That's Thursday morning here today. A key amendment introduced at 9:00 PM Wednesday accelerated Medicaid work requirements from 28, 2029 to December 2026 for able-bodied recipients and ends green energy tax subsidies by 2028 unless they show quick returns, addressing demands from blue state Republicans for higher salt deduction caps and conservative-like Representative Chris, Chip Roy and Ralph Norman for strict stricter Medicaid rules and repeal Biden's Inflation Reduction Act subsidies. Rob, if you want to play this clip, and then we'll get right into it.

• 17:45Tom Ellsworth?

  We look forward to the Senate's timely consideration of this once-in-a-generation legislation. We stand ready to continue our work together to deliver on the one big, beautiful bill, as President Trump named it himself. We're going to send that to his desk. We're going to get it there by Independence Day on July 4th, and we are going to celebrate a new golden age in America.

• 18:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what's in this big, beautiful bill, and why should everybody be paying attention?

• 18:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you know, when Biden had the Inflation Reduction Act, a lot of people, including us, looked into it and said, "What the hell, right? What's going on?" Well, this is a continuation. This means that the Trump tax breaks that have all been part of the budget of the United States, and they've been in place for, for years, including during Biden, will not be expiring. So taxes are not going to go up on Americans at the time where they could at least use them going up right now, as with the economy adjusting. So that was number one. But then some good things happened. There was a bunch of green energy stuff in there that even at the time, people said, "You're giving away subsidies for nothing."

• 18:53Tom Ellsworth?

  They're not, you're not showing that the green energy was saving money or saving on, on investment in, in, in new energy plants because we need nukes. Thank you. And they they put a work requirement in that if you're gonna get Medicaid, you're gonna get food stamped, there's a work requirement. And if you work, Vinny, what do you gotta have? You gotta have a green card. So guess what? So that they're arguing, the Democrats are arguing, hey, you know, there's, you know, 3 million people aren't gonna be able to get to the SNAP program. Well, that's like a EBT card that you can go buy food with. Well, guess what? No, no, no, no, no. If you're working, or you're trying to work, or you have a green card, you can take advantage of it as low income. But if you're, you just, you know, walked across from some foreign place and you're

• 19:36Tom Ellsworth?

  not supposed to be here, uh-oh, you can't use it. So all that was good. And I think this is a really good bill. Now, what we need to get is the fine print, Pat. And we don't have the fine, fine print. And we're gonna see that because July 4th, he's talking about is it's gotta go to the Senate. And Senate's gonna arm wrestle over, but then Republicans are gonna, you know, pass it. It's gonna happen, and then he's gonna sign it. I think he's absolutely gonna sign it on July 4th. And as a matter of fact, I don't think he wants to sign it, Pat, until July 4th, because they didn't need to sign it till then because the tax cuts were the end of the year. So I think this is a, I think it's a good thing. Is it a celebratory thing? On a 1 to 10, I'm, I'm at about an 8.5 because it continues the tax cuts. And they're moving forward, and they're actually putting some requirements on things.

• 20:21Tom Ellsworth?

  And no taxes on tips, I like. No taxes on overtime pay. And no taxes on car loan interest. Now, when you hear that one, that's part of fine print. Because who's that gonna help? The auto industry that's trying to sell cars.

• 20:35Patrick Bet-David?

  But is it car loan interest of automakers that the cars made in the US, or any car loan interest?

• 20:40Tom Ellsworth?

  We need to, this is part of what I wanna see is the fine, I wanna see the fine print.

• 20:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you specify that, Rob? Can you find out if the car loan interest is for, because what I heard is the fact that the car loan interest is specific to cars that are made in America. By the way, to add a few different things, here's what I looked up, Adam, before I come to you. I asked the question, this big, beautiful bill that just passed, I wanna know specifics of how it impacts the poor, the middle class, the upper class, and the super wealthy. So here's a low income, bottom 10%. Household resources are projected to decrease by 2% by 2027 and 4% by 2023. Medicaid cuts approximately 8.6 million people could lose Medicaid coverage due to $716 billion in program cuts and new work requirements. You have to have certain requirements to get that, apparently. And of course, we're going to learn more about this. This next one is very, very important.

• 21:27Patrick Bet-David?

  This next one says, "An estimated 3 million individuals may lose monthly food assistance benefits as a result of a nearly $300 billion cuts to the Supplemental Nutritional System, the SNAP program." Right? So guess what? If you're no longer getting the welfare program, you have to go get a job. Under Obama, if you guys remember, the unemployment checks went from 90 days to six months to 12 months. I even believe at one point they hit 24 months. Guess what people were doing? Nobody was looking for jobs. The moment they cut that unemployment rate to like 90 days or six months, everybody started looking for jobs. So this $300 billion that's cut on SNAP, they have to go get that money somewhere else. Middle-income temporary increases in child tax credit up to $2,500. No deductions on tips, overtime and car loan interest.

• 22:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to know the car loan interest, Rob, if that is a US car loan interest or any car loan interest. And then there's a couple of the things there. Elimination of federal subsidy student loan for undergraduates, potentially increasing higher education expenses, high-income individuals, top 10%. Household resources are expected to rise by up to 4% in 2027, primarily due to tax cuts. Extension of 2017 tax, Trump-era tax, increased state and local SALT deduction up to $30,000. That's the cap. Creation of a $1,000 MAGA saving account for children. Creation of a $1,000 Make America Great Again saving accounts for children.

• 22:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Everybody born after 2024.

• 22:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Everybody born after 2024 gets a $1,000 MAGA savings account for children.

• 22:56Tom Ellsworth?

  That's sick.

• 22:57Patrick Bet-David?

  That's sick.

• 22:57Tom Ellsworth?

  And it's tax advantage so that the parents can keep it and keep contributing, and as it grows, it's tax advantage.

• 23:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Go make some babies, but still have a job and don't rely on SNAP. Go make some babies and do it right.

• 23:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, SNAP.

• 23:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Estate and endowment taxes, reduction in state and new taxes on large university endowments. And that's kind of what you have, extension of 2017 cuts, couple of other things that they had there, but that's pretty much it. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 23:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I think Tom nailed it. You know, it's going to be one beautiful bill, one big beautiful bill. And I think-

• 23:26Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what going to good to see that Congress still exists because Trump has just taken all the oxygen out of the room. Since he became president, everything is going on with the Trump show, but this is going to pass. And I'll tell you why who controls Congress and it's not even close. It's the Republicans. So how many congressional districts turned Democrat in this past election? I think it's zero. Everything went towards the right, everything, everything. So you know, the old conversation with. Vinnie's best friend, Stephen A. Smith, it's a mandate. Not that kind of mandate, Vinnie, but everything is gonna, you like that Tom?

• 24:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Everything is gonna pass because they control Congress. By the way, Congress, the House, they have, I think they're plus eight seats, 220 to 212. In the Senate, they're up, I think, six seats, 53 to 47. This is going to pass and it will probably pass exactly as Trump wants it on July 4th. Happy anniversary, happy birthday, America. This is what's gonna happen. By the way, I was at the Wall Street conference yesterday. Jason Lyons event and Byron Donalds spoke and he talked about this exact bill, this big, beautiful bill. And he said this, he goes, you know, the, the Trump tax cuts that they passed in 2017. You know how I know that they're actually gonna stay and how they're legit and why they're so good?

• 24:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Because the Democrats didn't do anything to try to reverse them in the last five years. It's almost like, did you notice that Biden didn't do anything to reverse all the policies against China? Nothing. He kept the Trump's policies, the terrorists on China, nothing changed. Now Trump's doubling down. But the Democrats apparently from Byron Donald did not do anything to reverse the Trump tax cuts. So it looks like this big, beautiful bill will pass.

• 25:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Great point, Adam. And I'll add one thing in one sentence. Neither did Bill Clinton. When he got to office, he didn't touch the Reagan program, which was consistent.

• 25:21Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. Well, he was touching other programs. And by the way, I just asked right now, I just found that the, the interest, the car loan interest applies only to cars assembled. In the U.S. If it's not, you don't participate in that. It's only assembled in the U.S. Is what that's all about. You think this is gonna pass, PBD, just like this? The way it is right now with the Senate? Like it passed the House, now it's going to the Senate. Look, when Hakeem Jeffries.

• 25:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is, uh, uh, who is the minority leader?

• 25:49Tom Ellsworth?

  The dream, he's the dream.

• 25:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Right. When he only gets up for 30 minutes to debate and fight this, and if you remember Kevin McCarthy, he stood up for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours talking about how this is terrible. Guess what they're saying? They're not fighting.

• 26:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 26:05Patrick Bet-David?

  They're accepting. This is passing.

• 26:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Tough to fight when you don't have a...

• 26:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, there's not a fight.

• 26:10Speaker 05

  How much, and Tom, you said that this was an eight, eight and a half? As, as like, as a pot, uh, one out of 10?

• 26:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I think, I think this is an eight and a half, and I want to see the fine print because I, they really went down through multiple areas, and that's the purpose of, of Congress to do. That's what they're supposed to do.

• 26:29Speaker 05

  And how mu- and how much is his help?

• 26:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Remember Nancy Pelosi, "We'll find out what's in it after we pass."

• 26:33Speaker 05

  I do. And how much, how much is his help, uh, towards a victory for, uh, the midterms? Cause I mean, at the end of the day, that's what, that's what he's going for.

• 26:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, let me tell you how I work, Vinnie. I'm a businessman. When on day 99, I gave it a C minus, I gave it a C minus on what's been done, not what's pending. As a salesperson or person that runs business, you have a lot of things that's going on. Unless if you close the deal, it's just a good idea.

• 26:59Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 27:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Right? So today, from they're at C minus to where they're at, and they get this done by 4th of July, that C minus could be a B plus like this, with everything that's going on. Headed towards an A, A minus, and then obviously...

• 27:11Tom Ellsworth?

  It's getting there.

• 27:12Patrick Bet-David?

  And I think, by the way, I'm telling you this, I'm gonna keep repeating this, I said this everywhere I go right now. I was on Jesse, I said this. I was on Benny yesterday, I said this. Brace for impact. 2026, if you haven't heard me say this already. President Trump turns 80 on June 15th, next year. America turns 250 years old, next year. World Cup is coming here, IPO market's gonna open up. 2026 is going to be the most magical year to be living in America in our lifetime. Let me say it again. 2026 is going to be the most magical year you've ever lived in America in our lifetime.

• 27:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Again, 2026 will be magical because of everything that's coming together right now. It's very simple. What he did the other day, the South African leader comes to the White House. When he comes in, he first shakes his hand. We're like, "Hey, everything's gonna be alright, all this other stuff." So it looks friendly, and then he sits in front of him. And he says, uh, yo, so tell me, what is all the stuff that you guys are doing, Rob? I don't know if you have the handshake or not. If you do, you don't have it. Is this the one that he turns over to the video? Yes. Okay, well, at first he comes in, it's a very friendly handshake. Now, this is South Africa, which, when you know the stories with South Africa, they have been going through a mess. The ANC has been running South Africa since 1994, uh, right after Nelson Mandela.

• 28:35Patrick Bet-David?

  And for the first 10 years or so, it was good. Then all of a sudden, the extremists took over South Africa. They started, you know, losing their mind and a level of racism towards whites went to a whole different level in the country. Lot of chaos, lot of weird things. You hear people, there's a leader of the EFF, I think, that got up, uh, uh, I, I, I, we will get his name. He got up and he gave a message saying, you know, we have to take out the whites and all this stuff. So he's sitting there, look at all the cameras. Hexit is right there, Lutnik is right there. Look at Musk, who is from South Africa, standing to the right, okay? And then you see JD Vance, VP JD Vance. Everybody is waiting for this meeting with South Africa. Here's how it goes, Rob. Is this when he turns over to the TV? Yep. Please go and play this clip.

• 29:23Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, Rob, if you do this, the reason why you have to see 30 seconds prior to this is because 30 seconds prior to this, he was asking him, what happened? Why is there a genocide going on in your country? Why is there such a thing going on? And the president of South Africa tries to explain himself and say, that's not true. You can't believe this. And in South Africa, this, and what we learned from Nelson Mandela is this. And then he flips to it. Is that the one, Rob? Because for this to make sense, you have to see the 30 seconds, uh, uh, prior to that, uh, South Africa, uh, Trump. Do you know which one I'm talking about, Rob, or no? I'm looking right now.

• 30:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't want to show it without that because you have to see that whole exchange for the world to realize, oh, I just found it. Here we go. Okay, I'm gonna send this over to you, Rob. And do me a favor, first, show, uh, uh, fast forward to it. Hang on, I'm gonna send it over to you in text. The audience folks, you have to see this, okay? So he tries to explain himself. He wasn't automatically wanting to go to the video. He had that as a backup in case he was gonna be reasonable. So when the president of South Africa comes up and tries to spin and say that there's nothing going on in South Africa, it's peaceful, there's no issues, no whites are not facing any racism, everybody is safe, nothing's going on,

• 30:49Patrick Bet-David?

  the president flipped. You can play this clip here, Robin. Go to the part where the president starts speaking. South African president starts speaking. Okay, go for it. Go for it, press play.

• 31:00Tom Ellsworth?

  It will take President Trump listening to the voices of South Africans, some of whom are his good friends, like those who are here. When we have talks between us on the quiet, at a quiet table, it will take President Trump to listen to them. I'm not going to be repeating what I've been saying. I would say if there was Afrikaner farmer genocide, I can bet you these three gentlemen would not be here, including my Minister of Agriculture.

• 31:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at him, look at him.

• 31:33Tom Ellsworth?

  He would not be with me.

• 31:34Patrick Bet-David?

  This is what you needed to see.

• 31:35Tom Ellsworth?

  So it'll take him, President Trump, listening to their stories, to their perspective. That is the answer to your question.

• 31:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this.

• 31:44Tom Ellsworth?

  But, Mr. President, I must say, we have, no, no, wait.

• 31:47Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, wait.

• 31:49Tom Ellsworth?

  We have thousands of stories talking about it. And we have documentaries, we have news stories. And is Natalie here, somebody here to turn that? I could show you a couple of things and I would, I just, I have to, it has to be responded to.

• 32:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Sure.

• 32:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Let me see the articles, please, if you would, and turn, excuse me, turn the lights down.

• 32:12Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what you needed to see.

• 32:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Turn the lights down.

• 32:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Without the first minute, this doesn't make sense. Watch this.

• 32:18Tom Ellsworth?

  That's a nervous smile there.

• 32:21Speaker 05

  With or without you, people are going to occupy land. We require no permission from you, from the president, from no one. We don't care.

• 32:32Patrick Bet-David?

  This guy's speaking is Julius Malema.

• 32:36Patrick Bet-David?

  He's the leader of Africa's EFF political party, which is about 10% support.

• 32:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Fast forward Rob because they're not showing the clips. Try not go to the reaction of both of them when that is over with. I'll show one of the clips so they know who it is.

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• 34:08Patrick Bet-David?

  He doesn't even stop. He lets the whole thing play. There's another clip that shows the angle of what they're talking about.

• 34:17Tom Ellsworth?

  These are burial sites right here. Burial sites. Over a thousand of white farmers. And those cars are lined up to pay love on a Sunday morning. Each one of those white things you see is a cross. And there's approximately a thousand of them. They're all white farmers, the family of white farmers. And those cars aren't driving. They're stopped there to pay respects to their family member who was killed. And it's a terrible sight. I've never seen anything like it.

• 34:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Rob, do me a favor. Play the clip I just sent you.

• 35:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Did you see him shifting in his chair?

• 35:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, you have to see this because the guy, the first clip that he played is this guy. Julius Malema. Okay, watch what he's saying here and look how many people are in the crowd.

• 35:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Sweetheart of a guy.

• 35:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch.

• 35:18Patrick Bet-David?

  10% of the voters support him, give or take.

• 35:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Kill them is what he's saying.

• 35:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you hear that? Watch what he says. Kill the farmer, kill the poor.

• 35:47Patrick Bet-David?

  So now, the president of South Africa in that position is saying, "That's not my party. That's not me. I don't stand for that." Did you condemn it though? Exactly the point. You nailed it. Rob, can you show the clip where Julius Malema was being interviewed about killing white people and what he says? Do you know which one I'm talking about? The 32nd one he says? "You can't say something like that." He says, "Well, I'm not telling you. I'm not condemning it, but not yet. Not yet. Maybe one day." He's like, "You're being crybabies." "But not yet. Not yet. Not yet. If you have it..." He's sitting to the right. Not that one. There's another. I can send it to you, but this is all I typed up, Rob. I typed in Julius Malema, "Not yet." If you type in Julius Malema, "Not yet," it'll show up. Just type in Julius Malema, "Not yet," it'll show up. If you don't have it, I'll text it to you here. I believe, is this the one?

• 36:32Patrick Bet-David?

  This is exactly the one. 41 seconds. Go for it. Watch this, folks. ...is in the land. Let's get our land and let's work our land. I'm hated for that. What? What? Where? I mean, eh eh...

• 36:47Speaker 03

  I don't, I, I, I don't know what's going to happen in the future. I'm saying to you, we've not called for the killing of white people, at least for now.

• 36:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Not now. Not yet.

• 36:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, but, I mean, you'd understand, somebody watching that, especially as it gets shared on Twitter, they freak out.

• 37:03Patrick Bet-David?

  10 seconds if you could. Go back a little bit more, Rob. Keep going back, keep going back, keep going back.

• 37:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back five more seconds. Watch this. Go ahead. We've not called for the killing of white people. At least for now. Not yet. I can't guarantee the future.

• 37:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I mean, you'd understand, somebody watching that, especially as it gets shared on Twitter, they freak out. It sounds like a genocide.

• 37:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Crybabies. Crybabies.

• 37:27Speaker 03

  I'm not calling for the slaughter of white people, at least for now.

• 37:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 37:30Tom Ellsworth?

  That's a terrorist.

• 37:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I can't guarantee of the future, especially when things are going the way they are.

• 37:35Speaker 03

  Sub employment.

• 37:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. And it, so, you see that taking place. Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 37:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, well, he was saying, most people in America, maybe you don't know, he's not saying poor, P-O-O-R, he's saying boer, B-O-E-R, and those are the white Dutch settlers that are farmers in South Africa. So when he says, "Kill the farmer," it's what the common people refer to them, the white sas. And when he says, "Kill the boers," he's referring to their, their ancestors who were Dutch settlers. This guy is calling for an ethnic cleansing. That's what he's talking about. And so he's saying, "All the Dutch that came here over those years, goodbye." And he's making the machine gun sound and pow pow. That's what he's making.

• 38:20Tom Ellsworth?

  This, I am very proud that Trump called it out with a, "What the hell are you doing?" Because it's time that we use our strength and influence around the world not to ignore things. And there's so many things to do, so many things, Darfur, and there's all these things. But I love the fact that Trump called it out, and Americans need to understand what's going on here. When he says, "Kill the boer," that's all the white Dutch people that settled, and "Kill the farmer," those are the white people that are running farms. That's what he's talking about. This guy, this guy is no good.

• 38:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he's not good. Adam, do you have any thoughts on this?

• 38:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I do have major thoughts on this. Number one, from a macro perspective, if I'm a world leader, I would think twice before showing up to the Oval Office. This is the same room that Zelensky got dressed down and basically had to go back with a hat in hand and his tail between his legs, back to Ukraine. Unless it's the same room that the president of South Africa, Ramaphosa, just basically got exposed as being at the

• 39:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Very least a liar and at the very most calling for white genocide, but not yet. Terrorist. In a couple of days, a couple of hours. Maybe Thursday. Couple of months, depending on how I feel. So be very cautious when you go into that room. By the way, where do you think he got the, hey, uh, roll the tape. I think that's a shout out to Rob right there. Just a PBD thing right there. Number two, gotta give a major shout out. Talk about timing. Robert Herzoff that just was on the podcast that just came out, I believe yesterday. Yep. South African billionaire stud of a guy came in and had this exact same conversation. The day before this took place. And if you're paying attention to what's going on in the world. Not many people are familiar with what's going on in South Africa. And in fact, you actually led the conversation off with.

• 40:09Patrick Bet-David?

  We kind of know what's going on with China. We know what's going on with Russia, Ukraine. We hear what's going on in Israel, Gaza, Mexico. Not a lot of people know what's going on in South Africa. Why don't you enlighten us? And he goes, listen, uh, there is a genocide. Now genocide gets thrown around way too frequently these days. So what I'll tell you is this, what I learned. There is definitely an economic genocide going on in South Africa. Cause it's basically as he described it, if there's a living manifestation of what DEI looks like as a country. It's South Africa. Okay. So they have something called the, the black economic empowerment. They're basically just simply saying, listen, if you own a business, if you're white and you own a business. You have to give, and especially I think as it's funded by the government, you have to give 30% of your business.

• 40:53Patrick Bet-David?

  To the black economic empowerment movement. This is Marxism. This is socialism. This is reverse DEI. One thing that I learned is reverse racism is racism. That's just kind of how that works. So I also have a good friend on the inside in South Africa that's been on the PBD podcast before, Rand Noonan. Shout it to him. He goes, oh, everything that he's talking about is accurate. It is true. Did Trump ambush him? Yes. Just like these guys are ambushing white farmers and the boars. So I'm so glad that Trump just exposed this dude. And to, to put the finale on this, what's the one country, the one country in the world? That brought the case against Benjamin Netanyahu to the international criminal court. What's the country?

• 41:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, it's South Africa. Who's funding South Africa apparently?

• 41:41Speaker 05

  Well, apparently, it's the Islamic regime in Iran. So it's very, very ironic, don't you think? You're ironic. What's going on here? You know? Follow the money.

• 41:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me show this, if I may, and Vinny, I'll come to you. So remember the word ambush. Two things. First, watch this clip with Elon Musk. Look how Elon Musk is looking at this man. And Elon, look at the look. Look at the look on his, how he's looking at him. Look at this. While the entire conversation is taking place, he's looking straight at him because he, the president of South Africa, said Elon and I have spoken. And he says, Elon, you've made a lot of money. He says, but why don't you come here and do stuff with me? Why don't you come here and do stuff with us? Do you know what Elon just tweeted about Starlink? Did you see that, Rob? Let me tell you what he said about Starlink. He's like, hey, you know, Musk, Starlink, South Africa. He says, I'd love to bring it in South Africa, but you don't allow me to do it because you

• 42:37Patrick Bet-David?

  only want it to be for, I want to read exactly what he says. It's such a shocker on what he says about Starlink. Rob, did you find it or no? I'm looking. You have to see this. I hope I can find this because Elon tweets a lot, but let me see if I can go through it. He says, I would love to, but they don't allow, they don't allow Starlink there because it's a racist country. So whites can't get access to Starlink. Some words like that. Again, I want to get specific on what he says. Rob, if you can look for it, there's something about those two taking place. And then while that is happening, what does the media do?

• 43:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's what, Starlink is not allowed to operate in South Africa because I'm not black. Elon, stop the victim complex. Starlink isn't banned in South Africa because of your skin cuts because you refuse to comply with local laws like every other telecom provider, play by the rules. Okay? So they're saying, what is the rules? What are the rules with Starling being there? Okay, he offered it to Zelensky, Ukraine. He's offered a lot of other people. If other people are allowing it, what other rules and guidelines would be there for South Africa? That you're claiming he's not allowing it to be out there? And then how does the market react with the way President Trump handled it? Rob, can you pull up the video of what the market's been saying? Everybody, the mainstream media, there's a video of all of them saying the same exact thing. I'll just, you know, there's one clip of it. I'm sure Rob has it.

• 44:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this here, folks. This goes back to what we saw many, many times where the mainstream media says the same exact thing. Watch this, somebody sent an email saying, guys, this is the word to use today. Go ahead, Rob. ...today, the tense confrontation, President Trump ambushing the president of South Africa. Ambushing?

• 44:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, with that music?

• 44:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, sorry, there's a video in the background.

• 44:26Speaker 05

  Oh, it's that other one. Yeah, it's all good. It's that one.

• 44:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this, watch this, folks. It is a great song.

• 44:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Roll the tape, Rob. Oval Office today, the tense confrontation, President Trump ambushing the president of South Africa.

• 44:38Speaker 03

  Up next, another Oval Office meltdown, President Trump ambushing the president of South Africa.

• 44:44Patrick Bet-David?

  President Trump is being accused of conducting something of a diplomatic ambush of South Africa's president in the Oval Office.

• 44:49Speaker 03

  I'm Katie Tur. President Trump orchestrated another Oval Office ambush today. Today, Donald Trump, meeting with the president of South Africa and attempting to ambush and humiliate that leader.

• 45:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Zelensky territory, where essentially he was a bit ambushed inside the Oval Office. Felt like an ambush in there, kinda like the President Zelensky meeting in the Oval Office. Who sent the email?

• 45:13Speaker 03

  This was an ambush.

• 45:14Patrick Bet-David?

  That's all I wanted to know.

• 45:15Speaker 03

  It was orchestrated.

• 45:16Speaker 01

  Jerome Poser brought his best diplomatic self to this meeting, but nothing could have prepared him for this multimedia ambush.

• 45:23Tom Ellsworth?

  What started as, to some degree, an ambush. Well, Katie, I mean, it wasn't ambush.

• 45:28Speaker 05

  That's a great, great question. ABC, MSNBC, CNN, it's like they send out a back sig- that signal that says, just don't think for yourself, do the same BS talking points. These people are never gonna learn. They never learn, they can't get out of their ways, and I'm so happy because none- None of them could get back in the power pad, so that's one thing. But you guys said, so how much, how much percent of these people of South Africa support the crazy guy?

• 45:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Ten percent.

• 45:55Speaker 05

  There's how many people in South Africa, population, sixty million? So six million of those people are kill, bore, kill, all that stuff? And Alberto sent this to me, in the early Nazi party, support was initially low. Guess what? How much was the percentage of support in nineteen twenty-nine for the Reichstag elections? The party received how much percent of the vote, you know?

• 46:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Three percent.

• 46:15Speaker 05

  Three percent, and it dropped in nineteen twenty-eight to two point six. They're at ten percent, and if the president is like, nah, it's not a big deal, and they're trying to deny it, it's not a good look.

• 46:26Patrick Bet-David?

  The best part, right now, with what's going on, Cyril the president doesn't like Malema Julius, the other guy. And there's one other guy as well, that was a former guy, that is more evil than any of these other guys. His name is Zuma, right? I don't know if you know anything about Zuma.

• 46:42Speaker 05

  I've heard, I've heard the name before.

• 46:43Patrick Bet-David?

  So Zuma, this is Zuma, Jacob Zuma, who he's the guy after Mandela that pretty much destroyed South Africa. Do you know one time this guy had sex with a person that had HIV positive? And you know what he said in the interview, when he had sex with this person, unprotected sex? He says, "I did have unprotected sex with somebody that was HIV positive, but I took a shower afterwards, so I'm fine."

• 47:03Speaker 05

  No, he didn't.

• 47:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you please fact check what I just said?

• 47:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow, Nobel Prize in Medicine, right there.

• 47:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Fact check me, right there, okay? So, there you go. So, in, Zuma's admission was controversial, as he stated that he has not used a condom while having, he had not used a condom while having sex with Kwezi, despite knowing she had HIV positive, and having been, as deputy president, the head of the National AIDS Council and Moral Regeneration Campaign, he told the court that he had taken a shower after the fact, claiming that doing so reduced the risk of it. So, do you know who this is? Go all the way to the top, so they know who this is. This is the former, the former president. He is the former president. Before Cyril. From 09 to 18. Wow. So, this is Zuma.

• 47:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Then you have Julius, who gave, say, "Kill the boar, kill the farmers." Then you have Cyril. Between the three, Cyril is the most normal one. But Cyril, all three hate each other. The best thing that's going on is the fact that they all hate each other. Thank God, they don't love each other. But Cyril needs to have the audacity to do something about Malema and Zuma. Because the way they're going, if one of these two guys ends up being there, you know what's happened in the last forty, thirty, uh, twenty-some years? One million of the, uh, uh, White South Africans. Whites have left. Yeah. They have left. It's called brain drain. Yep. You know what brain drain is? It's what happened to Iran. It's what happened to Russia. It's what happened to a lot of countries. It's what's happening to Venezuela right now.

• 48:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Those who are the smartest, the job creators, they leave. The immigration of highly trained, intelligent people from a particular country. Yeah. These are the people you don't want to leave. It's like you're running a sales organization and your top 20% of sales guys leave. Not the bottom 50%, the top 20 leave, okay? When your top 20% of people leave in a company or country, you have problems. That's what's going on. It's like California, brain drain. Can I, can I highlight one last thing? Please keep it short, because we've got more stories. The ambush that's on mainstream media? Uh, I want to talk about what's- Can I just go to the next story? Let me just go to the next story. Rob, can you pull up the Morning Joe story? Okay? Pull up the Morning Joe story and I'll come to you first, okay? Okay. Go to the Morning Joe story. This is Morning Joe being ambushed. We're gonna use the same word, okay?

• 49:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Except, he's ambushed with facts, okay? And, and watch how this exchange looks like on, uh, Morning Joe. Joe protecting Biden, even though he knew he wasn't doing well. And he keeps trying to dodge it and the interviewer doesn't stop. Go, Rob, is this the one?

• 49:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, so I actually have the clip that he's referencing. If I can play that first and then play this.

• 49:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, do that, go for it. Do that and then we'll go to this. Uh, so here's, uh, uh, Morning Joe and then you see the other fellow asking him the questions. Go ahead, Rob.

• 49:55Patrick Bet-David?

  But comparing that guy's mental state? I've said it for years now, he's cogent. But I undersold him when-

• 50:04Speaker 03

  I said he was cogent.

• 50:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Cogent.

• 50:06Speaker 03

  He's far beyond cogent. In fact, I think he's better than he's ever been intellectually, analytically.

• 50:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, my God.

• 50:16Speaker 03

  Because he's been around for 50 years. And, you know, I don't know if people know this or not, Biden used to be a hothead. Sometimes that Irishman would get in front of the reasoning. Sometimes he would say things he didn't want to say. This is, and, and, and I don't really, you know what? I don't really, start your tape right now, because I'm about to tell you the truth.

• 50:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Here we go.

• 50:40Speaker 03

  And if you, if you can't handle the truth. This version of Biden intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever.

• 50:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Geez.

• 50:53Speaker 03

  Not a close second.

• 50:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, perfect. So that is, Rob, you're doing it right for playing this first, Rob. Perfect. Great approach. Now here's the podcast. Go for it.

• 51:03Speaker 05

  Well, it was misleading to say best by never without caveatting it and say, except on the days when he's not the best Biden ever.

• 51:10Speaker 03

  Mm hmm. Well, but, but I never, I never saw those days personally.

• 51:14Speaker 05

  Well, you did, you did, because you saw him address the dead Congresswoman and you saw him in South Carolina.

• 51:19Speaker 03

  The dead Congresswoman, yeah.

• 51:20Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, not more than that. I mean, I can show you, I can show you the RNC clip reels. There were plenty of days in public when he, when he was not the best Biden ever.

• 51:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, he stumbled and, he stumbled and, he stumbled and bumbled around, Mark. I mean, yeah, he, he certainly did. Uh, Donald Trump did, other politicians did.

• 51:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Again, Donald Trump.

• 51:38Speaker 03

  But, but, but it, and it's actually the same case as a lot of times when I've gone in and talked to Donald Trump. We go on to Donald Trump and I've heard the media narrative around Donald Trump. And certainly I've been very critical of Donald Trump. And when I leave, I have a better understanding, just like Jeffrey. Goldberg did a couple of weeks ago, I had a better understanding of where Donald Trump is mentally, if Donald Trump is is losing it like, you know, people have said through the years or not. And so again, am I going to look at a clip that's gone viral and and and pay more attention to that than two and a half, three hours I had with a guy one-on-one going around the world? No, I'm just not going to. Are those are some of the clips

• 52:23Speaker 03

  bad? Yeah, they certainly, they certainly are bad. I can understand why people would see that without the context.

• 52:29Tom Ellsworth?

  What context?

• 52:30Speaker 03

  And and say, say that there was a problem with that, especially because I said, start looking at your tape right here. You know, it's like, but, but, you know, when I look at that tape.

• 52:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Does it push him back, Rob? Is he just gonna do double talk?

• 52:43Tom Ellsworth?

  It just keeps double talking.

• 52:44Speaker 03

  Based on the times that I spent with Biden.

• 52:46Patrick Bet-David?

  So he doesn't challenge him anymore from here?

• 52:47Speaker 03

  Based on the hundreds of hours.

• 52:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right here. This is, this is one example with him. Okay. Then you have, you know, another example, but I'll pause right here. I'll go to Adam and then I'm going to show you what Megyn Kelly does to Jake Tapper. Okay, you have to see, how long is this one, Rob?

• 53:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, three minutes.

• 53:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Play the first minute and I'll go to it because they're the same thing. Jake Tapper, Morning Joe, go for it.

• 53:06Tom Ellsworth?

  I did ask Joe Biden to be transparent about his health records in an interview in 2020. I did ask him about the fact that voters But then he wasn't. Thought that he, he was not transparent at all. No. He promised you that he would be transparent about his health records and then he wasn't. And when you sat with him again, At all. Including one month, including one month after the Jackie Walorski thing, you didn't ask him about it. You didn't follow up on the fact that he was falling up the stairs, that he was losing his train of thought regularly, that he was slurring, that he was incomprehensible, that he was getting lost on the White House lawn. You sat right across from him and you asked none of that, notwithstanding the fact that he had promised you he would be fully transparent about his health issues. You know as well as I do that there's a way of, you can say, hey, there's this poll on your age, or you could say, you just forgot that

• 53:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Jackie Walorski was dead. You, you asked where she was moments after watching a videotape tribute to her. You lowered the flags at the White House after she died. This happened 13 days before you sat with him. There is a way of pressing a man like that on the actual infirmities to bring it home to him and to the audience, and you didn't do it. It wasn't just, I mean, you sat with him a couple of times. In the course of his presidency and these issues were not pressed. Well, there was at least that time and then there was the time at the beginning. And but separate and apart from that, you covered the Biden presidency. No, no, no, let me just finish my point. You covered the Biden presidency. Okay, right, and it was 13 days after the Jackie Walorski thing.

• 54:29Tom Ellsworth?

  But you covered the Biden presidency aggressively throughout the four years and and you didn't cover mental acuity hardly at all.

• 54:35Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right now. So this is how I'm gonna bring it over to you. So mainstream media hasn't learned their lesson. Nope, the the internet saw the clip of you guys saying the same exact thing. You're doing it again with Trump now ambush. And you see his popularity is increasing, yours is decreasing. The governor of New Jersey, it's a left state, has a worse popularity approval rating than Trump does in New Jersey. Go to Rutgers, see what they teach you about Trump. What happened there? What's going on with them? And then our Morning Joe and Jake Tapper, who have been looked at as these incredible journalists, are sitting there being questioned by others and they don't know how to answer the question. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 55:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Let me tell you, this pisses me off more than maybe anything. Because this is the reason I became so anti-Trump for many years. Because they lied to me. Like, there's nothing worse than thinking that you're on the right side of history, but you've been lied to this whole time. This is why, you know, you joke about that I'm more MAGA than anybody these days. I wasn't MAGA at all. But now I'm definitely mag, I want to make America great, because I've been lied to. Because in 2016, I had a nice situation at work where I started working remote and made some money. And I was watching Morning Joe every single morning. Why, why did I watch Morning Joe every single morning?

• 55:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Because I like the fact that Joe Scarborough was a Republican and Mika Brzezinski was a Democrat and they had an entire conversation of pain.

• 56:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And they made it seem like it's an open discussion discourse. What I didn't fully realize is this guy hates Trump with every fiber of his being. And that's the biggest problem with a lot of these people, whether it's the jig tappers of the world, whether it's the Joe Scarboroughs of the world. They hate Trump so much, even Megyn Kelly hated Trump because you remember that situation when he had blood coming down. But she at least has come out of TDS and defends the truth. So the question is, you know, talk about the red pill. Would you rather be lied to and people tell you what you want to hear? Or would you rather hear the truth, but people tell you what you don't necessarily want to hear? That's who Trump is.

• 56:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So I fell for it and I see and I'm, and I'm, I'm like, I see what's happening in real time. Or these people are not willing to admit that they basically the walking dead, Joe Biden, was pulling a weekend at Bernie's and you defended him like he was completely cogent and cognitive. It upsets the hell out of me. First time I had him and I speak, I go to Miami, not the first time. When it got to the point where he calls me, says, Pat, I just want to drop everything. I want to come and work with you and run with you. I want to come to Texas. I'm like, you want to do what? He said, I want to come over to Texas. Well, are you okay with that? I'm like, look, take a fly out here. Let us see what's going to happen. He comes down and he's walking on and you know, Adam, one of the most charming charismatic guys you'll meet. Everybody likes him. And then he leaves. So then I go to Miami and I meet with him. We're having lunch or something. I don't know where we were.

• 57:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Then I fly back. By the way, that was a trip that I was shooting some videos, but anyways, that's a whole different thing. I don't want to get into that. Yeah, helicopter thing. And then I fly back and I call him and I say, so Adam, it's the interview. How do you feel about Trump? Adam's like, um, what do you mean? Do you remember this? How do you feel about it? How do you really feel about it? Because you know, you know how I feel about him, but how do you feel about him? Well, you know, I don't know, da, da, da. Watch this clip. This is podcast from four years ago. Okay. Go ahead and play this clip, Rob. Watch this.

• 58:07Speaker 05

  And Trump doesn't, doesn't bring that out of people at all.

• 58:10Patrick Bet-David?

  For the, for the fifth time, this is where the audience gets upset sometimes because you don't answer questions.

• 58:15Speaker 05

  No matter what you say, you're not going to convince me to vote for fucking Trump. Whatever, whatever way you want to pose the question. Say, you got me.

• 58:26Patrick Bet-David?

  That's when you lose people, brother. Why when you lose people? Okay. So this is.

• 58:33Patrick Bet-David?

  But let me tell you, I'm telling you guys, he may be the biggest supporter now. Okay, than anybody in this room. And so, and here's the other part I want to add to this. It's crazy. There are a lot of people like Adam. Adam's not a high school dropout. Adam had good grades. Adam went to college. Adam got a degree. Adam, you know, was involved that he followed the news. You drop names, he knows congressmen's names. From 30 years ago, he'll drop them. So it's not like he hasn't been following it, but he's the guy that followed mainstream. And it leads to now Jon Stewart calling out Jake Tapper? Rob, if you got this clip, watch this one here. Jon Stewart's not a Trump guy. He cannot stand Trump. Watch Jon Stewart here.

• 59:18Speaker 05

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• 1:00:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Looks like Tom a little bit different. Yeah.

• 1:00:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Don't news people have to tell you what they know when they find it out? Isn't that the difference between news and a secret?

• 1:01:14Tom Ellsworth?

  You won't believe what we found out. No, that's why I'm watching.

• 1:01:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Breaking news!

• 1:01:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You're getting positive, Rob. You're getting positive. Can I just say one thing about Jon Stewart? By the way, how much better is The Daily Show with Jon Stewart back? I know they had the DEI her, Trevor Noah, really bad. But they also have other people on that show that are amazingly anti-Trump. Amazingly. Are you familiar with the Asian guy? They have some incredible people there. Jordan Klepper's great, the blonde girl. They have some great people. This guy Ronnie Chang right here, horrible. Horribly not funny. But here's what they're telling their audience. They say the fact they're talking about the white genocide. We just basically had a conversation about that. He goes, "You know how I know there's no white genocide? Because Trump said there was a white genocide." So basically, already saying, "If Trump said it, don't believe him."

• 1:02:08Patrick Bet-David?

  That's how he frames the entire conversation. And this is what they think about you if you vote for Trump. Go to the part where they talk about the watch. Like, some person got a Trump watch, and it showed up, and the T dropped off, and it said "Rump." Right? And he goes, "I'm actually shocked that these people actually even know how to read." That's crazy. Like, this is what they think of a voter who votes for Trump.

• 1:02:37Speaker 05

  Yeah, we're deplorables. We're deplorables.

• 1:02:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So the T dropped off, and they're like, "Oh my God, where's the T?" And then, so it says "Rump," ha, ha, ha. And he says, "I actually didn't even expect them to read." And this is what they're doing. And the last point is this, and just to address exactly what you said.

• 1:02:50Speaker 05

  Keep doing this.

• 1:02:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, he said, "I truly did not expect them to be able to read because they voted for Trump." Here are the conversations. You know when it hit and manifested? The exact moment where I was like, "Oh my God." I know I've been lied to, but now I'm already seeing what's going on. Do you remember the Trump Nazi...

• 1:03:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Rally in Madison Square Garden.

• 1:03:11Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:03:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Right before, this is the famous Tony Hinchcliffe, Puerto Rico. We went to New York, that's when you did your interview with Piers Morgan. And I would hear from all my friends, I can't believe you're in New York. You're at the, you're supporting Hitler, unbelievable. I go, okay. The next night, we went to Mar-a-Lago. You were there, you were there, we were all there to see the move, the man you don't know, right?

• 1:03:38Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:03:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, you guys left a little early. That night, when I tell you, it was so pro-Israel. It was so pro-Netanyahu, it was so pro-Judaism, that I went up to Jewish people, I was like, take it down a notch, buddy. We're in America, I'm Jewish, so I'm with you.

• 1:03:57Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:03:57Tom Ellsworth?

  But take it down a notch.

• 1:03:59Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:03:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's be pro-America, pro-allies. So I'm telling my friends, arguing with them, Jewish guys, I'm like, you know what? You fell for it, guys. You're exactly who I was five years ago. Cause I was at Mar-a-Lago, and it was the exact opposite of what they're saying about Nazi rallies. You fell for it.

• 1:04:15Speaker 05

  And Pat, question, you've written books, you've written multiple books. And this is, I had this before, we saw the Jon Stewart thing. How long does it take to write a book?

• 1:04:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, it takes a while.

• 1:04:25Speaker 05

  How long do you think it took Jake Tapper, the freaking hack that he is, the BS artist, and that guy to compile everything? Just, if you had to say ballpark, how much to compile it, write it, rewrite it, editing, da-da-da, all that? Just give me a timeframe.

• 1:04:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, in a case like this, I know where you're going. So I'm gonna say six months. But something like this could take 18 months.

• 1:04:47Speaker 05

  18 months, maybe even more.

• 1:04:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:48Speaker 05

  So he knew, he didn't do anything, and I'm happy that you were saying what you were saying during this. I don't want them to change. I don't want, I want them to keep doing this ambush shit, keep doing all this Nazi Hitler.

• 1:05:00Patrick Bet-David?

  People are over it, though.

• 1:05:01Speaker 05

  But over it, but I don't want them to start sounding like they're, oh no, we've all changed, we've all adjusted. Because the moment these people let their party back in power, every single thing that Trump has done is gonna be undone. And that's why when I say, Pat, they're the enemy, they're, this party, and we We have a bunch of stories that we're gonna get into assassinations and all that. This, this party has lost their freaking mind. They have no morals, they have nothing to stand on, and I don't think they could ever get back into power. Period. Done deal.

• 1:05:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Never say never, man.

• 1:05:30Speaker 05

  I'm not, I'm saying we shouldn't let them.

• 1:05:32Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I get what you're saying.

• 1:05:33Speaker 05

  Give me what, give me a policy that they're doing positive.

• 1:05:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I get what you're saying. Rob, can you play this? Here's the view reacting to Jake Tapper, and then Tom, I'm gonna come to you. And I got something I'm gonna show you guys. A show that's gonna rival these guys that I want you to tell the world about. And I got a clip of you, of that to show you. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:05:48Speaker 03

  Why is this important to know now?

• 1:05:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, God.

• 1:05:53Speaker 03

  If this seems to me, you know, we got a lot of stuff to be concerned about at the moment.

• 1:05:59Patrick Bet-David?

  No accountability.

• 1:06:00Tom Ellsworth?

  So I risk them?

• 1:06:01Speaker 03

  Yes, please, yes.

• 1:06:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Here's the Trump's atrocities, I'm gonna list them for you. Cutting Medicaid. Yeah. Well, this is what we're concerned about now.

• 1:06:09Speaker 03

  Oh, I got you, okay.

• 1:06:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Cutting Medicaid, slashing funding for cancer research. Yep.

• 1:06:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:06:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Rising prices because of tariffs. Dismantling USAID, which helps children and people who are poor around the world. Yeah. Fears of recession, destroying due process, ending birthright citizenship, dismantling the Department of Education, rolling back regulations on air and water quality, destroying our relationships with allies like Canada and the UK, and targeting his political opponents. Preach. And not only that, but he also said that Joe Biden has stage nine cancer. Oh, really? Where'd he come up with that? When is Jake Tapper gonna write a book about the cognitive decline of the person who is in trouble right now?

• 1:06:50Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah! Woo! You're so cool.

• 1:06:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, your thoughts? I wasn't as extreme as watching this ridiculous show, but I understand why people fall for their nonsense.

• 1:06:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Joey Behard died two years ago, no one told her. You know, what's interesting is they're gonna lose their megaphone. They're losing their megaphone right now. And to, Vinny, I'll, I'll tell you. The, it's very ironic, we were just talking about The Daily Show, and there was something that Jon said at the end of that clip, far at the end, that I watched last night. It was interesting, Pat. He says, "And why am I paying $30 to read in a book what you should have told me three years ago for free?" If you go find that, there's a quote from Jon Stewart where he says, "Free, and why am I buying a book when, three years ago, you should have told me for free?" So, but remember, remember, Adam, you'll remember this, because I know you were up on media in this.

• 1:07:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Remember when the people started doing surveys and they found out, hey, did you know that some of these Gen X's are getting their news from the Daily Show more than they get it from regular news sources? Remember when those first things came out? Well, guess what? It's a tsunami and we are, we are causing it. This podcast, what we're doing is causing this. Check this out. The shift in cable as people get to Hulu and they go online and they don't even get cable anymore. You know, the, the Gen Z's, they need, they don't even buy cable. So guess what? All the old cable going away and with it, the unprofitable news. Versant, you know what Versant is? It's a company being spun out of Comcast and NBC. And what are they putting in it?

• 1:08:24Tom Ellsworth?

  USA, Oxygen, MSNBC and CNBC. And CNBC, they say is the only real jewel because the way it covers business and it's actually a profitable point in there and it doesn't have a bunch of hosts with $10 million salaries. Well, get this, it's being spun out as a thing called Versant. And now David Zaslove, after he has lost NBA, NBA was on Turner for how many decades? And they've lost that. NFL Sunday Ticket is going to YouTube, YouTube TV. It's, the ice is melting below the feet of the cable empire and people are turning for their news elsewhere. And David Zaslove has got to take Turner and CNN and spin them out and sell them at a garage sale.

• 1:09:08Tom Ellsworth?

  And David Faber caught a whisper. He's a-

• 1:09:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I know somebody that'd be interested if it was a garage sale number.

• 1:09:15Tom Ellsworth?

  I, ready for this? CNN, this is David Faber was talking, there's an article that's written this, and then there was a attributed quote that they won't put the name on. So they said, there's a direct quote, won't put the name on. This is a, this is a high level media executive in the US.

• 1:09:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Zaslove has no choice. He has to spin it out and he has to keep CNN in the basket because the rest of the basket's worthless. CNN quote, "will be orphaned without any real investment or future." I see no future in it personally. So what they're talking about-

• 1:09:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I do, with the right owner.

• 1:09:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, I agree. I agree with that. But the point is, with their current economics, why are they cutting everybody's salary? Because the viewership's down. Why is the viewership down? You're putting out the wrong product. If the product was different, it would be different.

• 1:10:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me show you something. With all the frustration people have with The View, a lot of people were talking. We took action. We came up with a new show called Her Take. We have the next episode that's going out tomorrow, 11 o'clock. Folks, if you want to see another show rival The View and compete against it, watch this preview of tomorrow's episode that's coming out. Real debate. These are real people debating and pushing and challenging each other. Just support it. We want this thing to get to a million subscribers. Watch this clip here. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:10:32Speaker 03

  I will call that an effort out.

• 1:10:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Why were you raising money for Biden then?

• 1:10:37Speaker 03

  I just told you. I know you get real angry when people ask you that question, but you need to answer it. Don't yell at me. No, no. Do you understand English? I just said I didn't- I do. You're lying, though. Do you really think that we can trust Iran? We allow them to- Yeah, we had a new- Anna, I don't trust Iran with a government- I know, but who cares? We deal with Saudi Arabia. After 9/11, I wanted to bomb the crap out of Iraq. When is American policy no longer made in America? I don't, why are we doing this? No, because it's not, because it has no effect on any American's life. Who cares? Who the leader of Syria is? Who's the leader? Who's the leader? Naked and shot in the head. Okay, Julianne, it doesn't affect any American's life. I actually, I agree with Ann. I don't care.

• 1:11:21Speaker 03

  We're all human here, guys.

• 1:11:23Speaker 01

  But why is that our responsibility? Why do we need to be the sheriff of the entire world?

• 1:11:26Speaker 03

  We're so overwhelmed here in America due to the illegal immigration. How are we meant to go and police on immigrants?

• 1:11:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Shout out to Jillian Michaels.

• 1:11:37Tom Ellsworth?

  The fact that they're not agreeing on every single thing on why...

• 1:11:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Is why it's a real show.

• 1:11:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, thank God.

• 1:11:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you put the link below in the description? Guys, do me a favor. Please go support this show. We want the view to react to something that these guys are talking about because the direction America wants to go to is this direction. They want to see these types of discussions where people are sitting there arguing with each other, debating with each other, and you get to see both sides of the story. If you want to see us, take this thing even to more, you know, active show, maybe even soon do a live show with live audience attendance. Go support the channel and subscribe to it. All right, let's get to the next story here. Let's get to the next story here. Trying to see which one to go with. Let's go with this one here. Dan Bongino drops truth bomb. Vinnie, it's a truth bomb.

• 1:12:25Patrick Bet-David?

  In FBI's assassination investigation, he's sitting with Cash Patel. They're asking about Epstein. Have we reacted to this yet?

• 1:12:33Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know. We did do the Epstein. But this is a separate... It's from the same interview and it happened on the same day, but it got overshadowed by the Epstein clip. This is where they talk about the July 13th shooting, attempted assassination of Donald Trump by Thomas Crooks. And this is where Dan Bongino says, if there was anything there that was bigger than just one guy doing it, I would tell you.

• 1:12:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Play this clip.

• 1:12:53Speaker 05

  You know what, Maria? Cash is not kidding. We've been personally briefed extensively on every single detail, nugget, tendril of this case. One is actively in court right now, so out of respect for the case, it's probably more appropriate that I stay quiet on that. However, I'm not going to tell people what they want to hear. I'm going to tell you the truth, and whether you like it or not is up to you. If there was a big explosive there, there, right? Given my history as a Secret Service agent and my personal friendship as a director does with the president, give me one logical, sensible reason we would not have... If you can think of one, there isn't, there isn't, there, in some of these cases, the there

• 1:13:38Speaker 05

  you're looking for is not there. And I know people, I get it, I understand, it's not there. If it was there, we would have told you.

• 1:13:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Vinny, thoughts? And by the way, I got a clip by Alex Jones I want to show afterwards, his reaction, and another clip before and after, but I want to go to you first.

• 1:13:58Speaker 05

  And Rob, that was in reference to which assassination attempt?

• 1:14:00Tom Ellsworth?

  The July 13th, Thomas Crooks, Butler, Pennsylvania.

• 1:14:03Speaker 05

  Okay, I don't know about you guys, I saw a couple of videos, body language professionals, what he said about the Epstein thing, and by the way, I'll, there are clips of Dan Bongino going in on everything and all the, and then now, it just seems very calm, it seems like he doesn't want to be saying the words that he, that are coming out. Is this it, Rob? Can we play this, Rob? Yep. Is it okay, Pat?

• 1:14:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:14:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Listen, that Jeffrey Epstein story is a big deal. Please do not let that story go. Keep your eye on this. Catherine Rummler, I want you, we need to keep the heat on this case, folks. There are a lot of people who are knee-deep in the Washington swamp, who are not telling you the truth about serious allegations out there, that Epstein may have had video and audio of people out there doing things they shouldn't have been doing, and you should be asking yourself the question, how is it that all these people, the CIA Director, the Obama fixer, Bill Clinton, all intersected past with Jeffrey Epstein? Jeffrey Epstein isn't with us anymore, and nobody seems to want to talk about it, outside

• 1:15:10Tom Ellsworth?

  of a few entrepreneurial media outlets saying, hey, this is a big deal.

• 1:15:15Speaker 05

  He killed himself. Again, you want me to, I've, I've seen that file. Okay, and listen, I, and Pat, we hung out with, I respect Dan Bongino immeasurably, but especially when it comes, let's put the Epstein stuff to the side. You mean to tell me Thomas Crooks, that case, just some white dude figured, by the way, flew a drone, nobody said nothing. He was walking around, there's footage of him pointing and doing this, police officers everywhere. He gets on the roof, people see him, he- There's Secret Service people in the building, okay? He does all that. He has six cell phones on him. They get off, he allegedly put off a shot. The parents are basically protected. And you want me to believe that just this random white kid, set up in the perfect position,

• 1:16:00Speaker 05

  and they all lied about the slanted roof? And out of all that, let's say even, God forbid, Trump was shot and he died there. What would have happened? Kim Cheadle would have stepped down and got fired and case closed. Okay, I do not believe you. I understand they're in a different position, Tom, and there's certain things you can't say. But if you think us, the American people, are going to believe that this lone gunman BS story is true, you have another thing coming, alright? Period, period. And the Epstein thing, Pat? I don't give a damn. Okay, kill themselves, whatever, I don't believe the noise. Who gives a shit? What about the 10,000s of, 10,000s of hours of young girls, of children getting raped and whatever? Those people are still walking around, you know what I mean?

• 1:16:45Speaker 05

  You have the footage, they're still in society, and they're still walking around. So how long, how many more hours are you gonna watch while these people walk free? That's what I don't understand. Make a fucking arrest. Give us one person, one. I don't care if it's Bill Gates, I don't care if it's Bill, I don't give a shit. I want somebody, give us somebody.

• 1:17:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom, I agree, I don't need to speculate. You know why? Because Pam Bondi walked up to a microphone and said, there are 10,000 or what?

• 1:17:11Speaker 05

  Tens of thousands.

• 1:17:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Tens of thousands of videos and clips, and we have to be careful about the identities. So I'm not out there, I'm not out there with a tin hat, crazy train. I listen to Pam Bondi. And I respect Pam Bondi. But I want her to finish up and put some dates and timelines on what she came out and she told us. Where is this? And I also wanna see if there are people there that are... See, I'm not as worried about a congressman that went to Epstein Island and had sex with a girl who was 17, not 19. I worry less about that. I wanna know where are the people that were part of the feeder network that are running Netflix?

• 1:17:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Networks of this because they were in business and they're probably still in business trafficking kids to god knows where. Those are the people that I want stopped because this was a criminal enterprise. There was a constant flow. So I'm not ready again to put on my tin hat and get all freak freaked out on one thing or the other or whether a senator did this with somebody or Prince Andrew. They called him Randy Andy. He already had a reputation. There's nothing more to the story of Andrew is that this guy was an entitled royal who was just basically humping his way around the world. I'm not worried about that. I want to know where are these children now? And I want to know where are the people that were trafficking them

• 1:18:37Tom Ellsworth?

  in? Because that's where it is.

• 1:18:39Speaker 05

  Yep. And exactly unlike like Tom, I used to drink. I haven't drank on May 31st is going to be my two year mark, right? I have urges, but not like that. These pedophiles that are on this camera, they don't stop being pedophiles. You don't recover from being, you know, you're not a recovering pedophilia guy. You know what I mean? Like that's horseshit. Those people are still walking around and they know who they are. They know where they are.

• 1:19:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this.

• 1:19:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Tell us, oh, we've closed it. He acted alone. We have the files. Don't, if you're going to crap on me or piss on me, don't, you know, don't rub it in and don't tell me it's raining. Okay. Please, please. Just, I mean, can you not? This is a PR issue. Will you stop it? Kosch and Mangino? I know, obviously, Dan, nobody's smarter than you. But if you want to go from being very popular to very unpopular and thus hurt Trump as well, just keep, keep going. Keep going, tough guy. Okay, I'm going to stop right there.

• 1:19:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Getting angry. And it's very insulting to the American people to say Epstein killed himself. No one buys it. It's very insulting to say that that brainwashed mind control, classic mind control operative acted alone. Please stop.

• 1:20:00Tom Ellsworth?

  All that, his cell phone all around the federal building in DC, the FBI headquarters.

• 1:20:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Stop it.

• 1:20:09Tom Ellsworth?

  If you're not gonna do anything about it, just shut up about it then.

• 1:20:12Speaker 05

  Yup.

• 1:20:13Tom Ellsworth?

  But that's only gonna encourage the, the group inside the government, the faction, to try to kill the big guy again. I'm not trying to create some controversy. Alex Jones turns on Trump, turns on the, turns on Bongino. It's not that. I just, please don't insult us anymore. Please, please, please. God, I mean.

• 1:20:34Tom Ellsworth?

  It's like getting up at a dinner party and taking a dump on a plate and telling her by its chocolate ice cream.

• 1:20:39Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it like, dude, that's what it ends. That's what it ends.

• 1:20:43Speaker 05

  I mean, isn't he right?

• 1:20:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, look, you might not like what I have to say, Vinnie Tom. It's amazing to see people that were avid supporters of Cash Patel and Dan Bongino just a week ago, a month ago, a year ago, completely turn on them. Because as he said, I'm not going to tell people what they want to hear. I'm going to tell you the truth. And whether you like it or not, it's up to you. I know people, I get it, I understand, it's not there. If I was there, we would have told you. So I'm gonna take these people at their word, unless you think they're a liar. Because I had a conversation with somebody that's very in the know, and he goes, sometimes don't rule out sheer incompetence.

• 1:21:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't rule out people just messing up. Sometimes it's not a cover up, it's just a complete screw up. So there was, hold on, because I know you just want to talk and not listen.

• 1:21:39Speaker 05

  Oh, I'm, I'm listening a lot.

• 1:21:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Sometimes incompetence, sometimes incompetence. All right, checking my notes. The world's most underrated mastermind. If you would. So you're saying you believe them? I would say. Epstein. I'm not, I'm talking specifically about Trump and the Butler situation.

• 1:21:58Speaker 05

  Oh, okay, the Butler.

• 1:21:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that not what we're talking about? Yeah, go Butler and then go Epstein. I will do that. Okay. So I know a lot of people want to say, oh, it was the FBI, it was the CIA, they did this. That's the director of the FBI. I think he would know.

• 1:22:13Speaker 05

  Now, now he is.

• 1:22:14Patrick Bet-David?

  So I think he would know. So I just find it hilarious that the person. That everyone was so in favor of. Once they tell you what they know and the truth, and it's not what you want to hear. Now you have an issue with them on this particular situation. Who has, and I love you, who do I think has more credibility? Cash Patel, Dan Bongino, or Vinnie?

• 1:22:38Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:22:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I love you.

• 1:22:39Speaker 05

  I know where you're going.

• 1:22:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna go with them.

• 1:22:41Speaker 05

  Okay, but you're, you're missing.

• 1:22:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I know you're gonna say.

• 1:22:42Speaker 05

  No, what am I gonna say?

• 1:22:44Patrick Bet-David?

  You're gonna say, well, I don't believe them.

• 1:22:45Speaker 05

  No, I'm not, Adam.

• 1:22:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't believe them.

• 1:22:46Speaker 05

  What I'm saying is, Adam, you could talk the talk. You could talk the talk.

• 1:22:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not talking anything.

• 1:22:50Speaker 05

  Not you.

• 1:22:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm believing them.

• 1:22:51Speaker 05

  Not you. I'm saying they can make all the promises. Then, Adam, then once they come in and the tune changes, yeah, we're gonna talk shit. Because we're.

• 1:23:00Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're saying they're compromised?

• 1:23:01Speaker 05

  No, I, I don't, hold on.

• 1:23:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, say it.

• 1:23:03Speaker 05

  I don't know. I don't know what it is, but you know what I do know, Adam?

• 1:23:05Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you know?

• 1:23:06Speaker 05

  From a ex-military sniper, uh, shooting point of view militant, Secret Service, slope proof bullshit, none of it makes sense. None of it makes sense. And I understand they, they have the behind the scenes, uh, and all the facts and everything. You can't tell me that Thomas Crooks with his six cell phones and his parents being, uh, um, protected and his apartment being wiped out clean, okay? And all that information, he acted by himself, Adam. Because you know what I believe in? Going back to the spirituality is evil. Evil, the left, that party, the deep state, I'm not saying all Democrats. Their goal was to kill Trump, plain and simple. And if failed the first time, they did the switcheroo with Kamala.

• 1:23:51Speaker 05

  Then Ryan Ralph, Mr. Ukraine lover, weird, they, Ukraine, you think Zelensky and them love Trump? No, they would have loved to have this guy taken out to get the money keep flowing in. Okay, I'm just not naive, Adam. Those two guys look like they've, they've been told to shut the hell up.

• 1:24:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So they're compromised?

• 1:24:08Speaker 05

  They might be compromised, Adam. When it comes to the Epstein thing, my question to you, do you think in this four years, we're gonna find out anything about Epstein or we're gonna get any closer to the truth?

• 1:24:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I hope so, but if there's any, if there's.

• 1:24:21Speaker 05

  Do you think we're gonna get anything like from today?

• 1:24:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you want me to answer the question?

• 1:24:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, May 22nd. No, May 22nd till Trump is gone, anything.

• 1:24:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, I, I would hope so, but it's also probably doubtful. Because in my opinion, they don't want certain names who were on that island to come out. And what's the reason they don't want those names to come out?

• 1:24:43Speaker 05

  The system will collapse.

• 1:24:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:45Speaker 05

  Is those people probably run the world or at the very least run the country? Oh, yeah.

• 1:24:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinny, you're going this way and you're very clear about what you just said. I don't need to summarize it. And Adam's very clear on that. What I said is they both looked a little bit, little bit stiff and a little bit uncomfortable there. But I don't, I'm not an expert. I don't know how to read that, but I, but I looked at it. But don't you, but Tom. Uncomfortable. However, I, my point was I just want Pam Bondi, the Finnis to sentence she started when she walked to the microphone without speculation. So I'm probably, you know, that, that's where I'm at. It's like, okay, Pam, then tell us, and then let's go after the criminal enterprise that was trafficking the kids.

• 1:25:24Speaker 05

  Because, can I ask PBD?

• 1:25:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:25:27Speaker 05

  Cause basically what we're saying is the following. Do you believe Cash and Don, and Dan Bongino or not? So in my opinion, I actually believe them. So, cause you're basically saying, no, they're not telling me what I think. So now I don't believe them and there's nothing you can tell me otherwise. Do you, do you think these guys have high credibility? Do you think they've been compromised since they entered office?

• 1:25:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Dan Bongino said, please don't stop investigating this. If you're running a couple of entrepreneurial organizations or the owners that are talking about it. He specifically said that pre-getting in his words, right? So his words conflict with today's words. Now, that doesn't mean that can't happen. Many times, you know, you will like, for example, the whole story with the rock going to Vince McMahon saying, I need you to pay me $2 million a year. And then he says, wait a minute, do you know how we make money here? He says, no. So why do you want me to pay you $2 million? Because you just said you pay Stone Cold a million. I want to get $2 million. Vince says, would you mind the next 90 days working with our CFO and accounting department to find out exactly how we make profits and how much our events cost? I don't mind doing it. Goes through it, comes back, says, you know what? After finding out exactly how you guys make money, you don't make a lot of money. It's a lost deal.

• 1:26:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll only take a million bucks. And says, great. But if you drive next year, he says, you know how much money you made? How much money did I make? I made 15 million bucks. You gotta be kidding me. No. Because you finally went in and saw the numbers. I'm, I'll give some credence to that. It's like when somebody wants to buy a company, oh, it's worth $200 million. You do quality of earnings. It's only worth. Ninety-two million dollars. It's only worth eighty. We're trying to buy this building here. The guy says, "We'll sell it to you for seventy-five million dollars." I said, "Really?" "Yeah." I said, "I'll make a sixty-million-dollar cash offer." Well, our net, uh, uh, income, what is it? Net income, revenue, whatever. What was the net income, uh?

• 1:27:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, net rentals.

• 1:27:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Net rentals they had was five-point-two million. Great. The moment the offer was made, they had to show it. That five-point-two million very quickly became a couple million dollars. We're like, "Wait a minute. Why would I pay you sixty million dollars if it's only making this kind of money?" So there is the element of finding out after you get in. However, however, however, for me, you know, you have two of the biggest supporters of not believing what happened with Epstein. You want us now to believe it? You want us now to believe that the, the, the people that were trying to take out Trump, nothing happened there? There's a part of me that believes Trump is behind all of this, not in the way that you think about it. There's a part of me that thinks Trump's behind all of this because Trump wants to use this

• 1:27:50Patrick Bet-David?

  as a leverage of negotiating against the enemy. So think about it this way. What if they had proof on what happened with Crooks? Should you drop it now? Or do you need to hang on to that for the next four years to have control and authority? What happens if you hang on to that?

• 1:28:07Tom Ellsworth?

  You're saying he's playing his cards close to the vest?

• 1:28:09Patrick Bet-David?

  All I'm saying is-

• 1:28:10Tom Ellsworth?

  He knows something and he's, and he's, and he's doing misdirection?

• 1:28:12Patrick Bet-David?

  If I knew Crooks was an asset that was mind-controlled, tied to somebody, somebody else was working with him, why would I release it now? Why does he need that ammunition right now? He doesn't need it yet. He's going to need it. Trust me. The war hasn't even started yet on what they're gonna try to do to destroy this guy. The war, the, next year, I keep saying twenty-twenty-six is gonna be the greatest year in the history of America with, you know, July, June fifteen being his eightieth, and two-fifty, America's birthday, then World Cup coming here. They're gonna do everything in their power to make him and America look bad. He needs all of these pieces, all these cards for next year, all of them, my opinion. If I'm the president, I'm not gonna leak that information today. I'm hanging on to it to know when we're gonna drop the news.

• 1:28:58Patrick Bet-David?

  And when we do, it's gotta be at a time that I'm gonna destroy your party.

• 1:29:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna make sure the world knows about what you're doing. You best get your act together, or else. You don't think he's capable of talking like that behind closed doors? So to me, all I'm thinking about is that. Right now, he's saying, guys, delay, delay, delay, delay, delay. Delay, delay, delay, delay, delay. Delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, because I'm gonna need this stuff the next four, three years. Delay all of it. I'm gonna need it the next three years. Because shit's gonna get nasty the next three years. It's going to.

• 1:29:27Tom Ellsworth?

  But can I respond real quick?

• 1:29:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, I think the way you think is incredible, and that's admirable, because a lot of people don't think that, like, you're already, like, you wrote a book, you know, your next five moves, you're thinking five, 10, 15 moves ahead, and Trump would be doing that in this regard.

• 1:29:42Patrick Bet-David?

  He's for sure thinking like that.

• 1:29:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, so my only counterargument would be, then why come out and make a statement that he didn't do it? All you would have to say is, it's still under investigation, and we'll get back to you.

• 1:29:53Patrick Bet-David?

  No, because what this does is this stops it. It's like, done, go.

• 1:29:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Now we're talking about it.

• 1:29:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but you don't like the guy. And you know what you could do later on? You could say, you want to believe what you just got? We got new information that we never had before.

• 1:30:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Ah, the old season two, you're bringing back the character you thought was dead.

• 1:30:10Patrick Bet-David?

  These are professional communicators. This is not a, this is not a regular, like, these guys that do this job, you have to learn how to do this. The enemy's watching every single one of your moves. Remember, we have freedom of speech. China does not. Iran does not. Russia does not. We have freedom of speech. What is the benefit of not having freedom of speech? Your enemy is not able to see what you're doing. What is the benefit of having freedom of speech? You can't silence people that want to say stuff like we're saying right now. If we had no freedom of speech, I can't, we can't even say what we just said right now. Because some are going, oh, well, listen, these guys are Trumps. This is not a good look. We're not sitting here saying we agree. So it's not, this is the part where the, the audience is kind of like, so what are you guys? Are you for it or are you not for it? No, look, we voted for certain things, we want to know.

• 1:30:55Patrick Bet-David?

  But having said that, Vinny, I still understand. The idea of knowing, keeping the card because you know they're gonna try to destroy you.

• 1:31:06Speaker 05

  I, I, I get that, but I'm not comfortable with any leverage, any negotiations with kids being raped. Like if the information is there, I, we deserve, those kids deserve justice now. If it's a leverage tool with Trump and he's biding his time, I am 1,000% not comfortable with that. Biding and waiting and like saving it, I understand it's a tactic move and he's trying to save it for the end game. But we're talking about kids that are on camera getting raped and they have it. And it's a, I, I am 1,000% against that if that's the case.

• 1:31:41Patrick Bet-David?

  There is a reason why there's a, when, when you choose to become the leader of the free world, there's only 46 people that have been able to do it. It's not a job for everybody, okay? When you get that job, it's very easy for everybody to act emotionally about everything. You're not cut out to be a president. You're too emotional to be a president. Makes sense? The job isn't for everybody.

• 1:32:07Speaker 05

  Are you talking to Vinny on that one? Oh, I would be horrible. I love America, but I'd have a heart attack in two weeks.

• 1:32:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny is a guy, you go to war and you say, "Go kill everybody." That's the bad guy. That's Vinny. Vinny will get the job done, right?

• 1:32:19Speaker 05

  Guys, metaphorically speaking, of course.

• 1:32:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, of course, but all I'm saying is to be a president, you know, it's kind of like this. How do you do with blood?

• 1:32:27Speaker 05

  Meaning what?

• 1:32:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Could you be a heart surgeon?

• 1:32:30Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, for sure.

• 1:32:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Doesn't bother you?

• 1:32:32Speaker 05

  Blood doesn't bother me?

• 1:32:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You can cut skin, open up, doesn't do anything for you. Do you remember when you were in boot camp and you had to give IV to somebody else?

• 1:32:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:32:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, how many people passed that when they had to give IVs?

• 1:32:41Speaker 05

  A lot of people were just falling out.

• 1:32:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Big guys would pass out. Like you have to give IV to another guy? There were linebackers that were passing out left and right. But what happened before they went in? "Oh, it's gonna do nothing for me, dog. I'm gonna be the one to do it, dog. I'm gonna be tough guy." And I was like, "Oh shit, the gangster just passed out."

• 1:32:57Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:32:57Patrick Bet-David?

  What happened to the gangster? No, there is talking and then there's you go in and you see the blood and the average person can't handle it. And then the surgeon just cuts, boom, boom, can you give me this, boom, boom, boom. So what happened today? So can you give me that, boom, can you take this heart over here? Put it here, boom, okay, boom, let me see this, boom. Only 1% of people can do that job, less than 1%. To be a president, it's not 1%. It's less than .00000001% can do the job. And to be able to do that job, you have to be able to see blood, chaos, travesty, nasty, bunch of stuff,

• 1:33:40Patrick Bet-David?

  and you not being emotional to go out and react like an emotional human being. It's not the job for everybody. I understand what you're saying. It's a very noble way of viewing it. I am right there with you. We're together when something happens with the kids. We react in the same exact way.

• 1:33:55Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:33:56Patrick Bet-David?

  But you lose the ability to react that way when you're the president. You have to be more intentional. I understand. No, less than 1% of people are gonna agree with what I'm saying right now. Trust me. They're gonna be like, this is the part that I'm gonna side with Vinnie. I get it. Me too. Even though I'm debating, I'm siding. But I, you have to understand, this is a very, very difficult job, and there's some phases of this job that you have to be what? Do you know what it is? Do you know what is one of the most important qualities to be able to be the president of the free world?

• 1:34:30Speaker 05

  Not level head.

• 1:34:31Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to be ice cold.

• 1:34:32Speaker 05

  That's what I was just gonna say.

• 1:34:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to be ice cold.

• 1:34:35Speaker 05

  Measured's the word.

• 1:34:36Patrick Bet-David?

  It's, no, you have to be ice cold. Ice cold. To see what they did, they did that? Is this what they're doing? Okay, no problem. We'll never forget this. But let me tell you what we got going on. When is that event coming up? In seven months. In seven months, we're gonna do this, this, and put it in front of their faces so everybody sees it, but hang on till the seven months. Hang on till the seven months. That speech that Trump showed today in front of South Africa, yesterday he showed. How long has that been going on? Long time. How come he didn't show it earlier? How come he just showed it now? He's knowing about this, is that a bad person? You have to wait till timing. You have to wait till timing to take somebody out. I watched a movie many years ago by the actor, what's his name? The guy that played 300. What is the guy's name? Gerard?

• 1:35:14Speaker 05

  Gerard Butler.

• 1:35:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he played a movie of a guy that I believe killed his daughter.

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• 1:36:21Speaker 05

  Oh, man.

• 1:36:23Patrick Bet-David?

  He kills his daughter.

• 1:36:24Speaker 05

  Oh, man.

• 1:36:25Patrick Bet-David?

  And this is a regular guy that goes out there and prepares for his vengeance.

• 1:36:30Speaker 05

  Damn it.

• 1:36:30Patrick Bet-David?

  For years.

• 1:36:32Tom Ellsworth?

  This one? Law abiding citizen?

• 1:36:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if it's that one or not. No, it's not. Gerard Butler, Gerard Butler.

• 1:36:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Was Jennifer Aniston in it?

• 1:36:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So he prepares for this movie Revenge. Just type in revenge movie. Gerard Butler Revenge movie. I think it was him. So he does a, I don't know if that's that. So maybe it wasn't Gerard Butler. He prepares for this revenge on this guy. And he eventually buys a property behind his property of where he works. He starts developing a surgery center. He learns how to do surgery. Then eventually he befriends this guy, brings him in, sets him in there, drinks something, passes out, is laying on the bed, wakes him up to stay awake so he doesn't fall asleep, gives him a medicine and he conducts surgery while he's alive, feeling everything with the pain, saying, this is what you did to my daughter.

• 1:37:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Jesus. That took 10 years.

• 1:37:27Tom Ellsworth?

  That's the movie.

• 1:37:28Speaker 05

  That's it?

• 1:37:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Law Abiding Citizen, yeah.

• 1:37:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that the story, what I just said, is that the one?

• 1:37:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:31Speaker 05

  Bollmanvee, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:37:32Patrick Bet-David?

  He waits 10 years to do this to the person 10 years later. Look at this, I haven't seen this movie for 15 years.

• 1:37:39Tom Ellsworth?

  This was it.

• 1:37:40Patrick Bet-David?

  10 years later, he gets his revenge on the person that did what they did to his family. How soon do you want it? Do you think this guy wanted to kill the guy that killed his wife and daughter? How soon? Immediately, right then and there. Tomorrow. But this is the way to do it. This is the way to do it. And to be that ice cold and patient, it's not for everybody. The irrational, emotional person is not capable of running the free world. You're just, it's not for everybody. It's a very tough job. And I understand where he's at. I don't understand what Bongino and Cash and some of these other guys are at. I respect these guys, they're formidable guys in the space and hopefully they'll come through and do their part. But I know where he's at and he doesn't have a job that's for everybody. It's my position. I'll go to the next one. All right. Ron DeSantis, can we talk about this?

• 1:38:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Ron DeSantis, this is from The Guardian. Fall from grace. He's completely crashed to the ground. Okay, so let's go over here. Crash to the ground. Rob, do you have a video on this or what is it?

• 1:38:38Tom Ellsworth?

  I do, and this is regarding the Hope Florida investigation into Ron DeSantis.

• 1:38:43Patrick Bet-David?

  What is that, by the way? It says it here as well. So it's lost his grip on the state legislative Florida Republican House Speaker Daniel Perez accusing him of telling lies and stories that never happened and this displaying temper tantrums. Political science professor Aubrey Judd noted that he's completely crashed to the ground at the point in certainly being treated like a more standard average governor now citing DeSantis autocratic style as a factor. DeSantis faced backlash over a $10 million charity scandal involving his wife Casey DeSantis. Hope Florida nonprofit with Perez questioning his transfer to political action committees while DeSantis dismissed the legislative agenda as pathetic. At one point Casey looked like she was going to be the heir apparent to Ron DeSantis, but a potential 2020 gubernatorial

• 1:39:28Patrick Bet-David?

  run is now challenged by Trump endorsed Congressman Byron Donalds. Rob, what is this?

• 1:39:33Tom Ellsworth?

  This is Governor DeSantis, I believe this was yesterday when he signed the Stop Swatting Bill here in the state of Florida to ban swatting incidents where, you know, SWAT teams are called to your house under fake premises and they break into your home. And this is where he discusses the Hope, Florida investigation into he and his wife.

• 1:39:49Patrick Bet-David?

  The 10 million, he discusses it?

• 1:39:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, he actually calls out the guy who is opening the investigation. Go for it.

• 1:39:55Speaker 03

  Just understand what's going on here. Because I think you guys kind of twist and try to create narratives.

• 1:40:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, I can't hear you.

• 1:40:05Speaker 05

  I can't hear Rob. It's his mic, it's the guy's mic.

• 1:40:08Speaker 03

  And he has a political agenda to try to smear Hope, Florida, to try to smear people associated with the administration. Even my wife, who's done a great job for this state, by the way. Not just on Hope, Florida. Not just on Hope, Florida, saving taxpayers 100 million dollars, getting 30,000 people off means-tested welfare. That's, show me someone else in this country that has been able to do that. Not just that. The Cancer Initiative, and the Collaborative, and the Innovation Fund. She obviously has experience with that. Also, she led the effort on school mental health. She worked with people like Ryan Petty and all this. You know how much she's ever gotten from anything she's ever done? Not one red cent. Not one. She has led

• 1:40:53Speaker 03

  an initiative to help people, and you have one jackass in the legislature, I'm sorry, it's true, who's trying to smear her, smear good people. And just understand what happened. He took documents, and he dropped them in a prosecutor's office. That is not an organic investigation. That's a manufactured political operation. That's all this is. Somebody with an agenda, dropped off documents, and that's all that custodian of record said.

• 1:41:25Tom Ellsworth?

  There is no basis to do an investigation on these facts. Everybody knows it. Everybody knows that this is political. And I can tell you, she is more determined than ever to make a difference in the lives with Hope, Florida. I'm more committed to Hope, Florida than I've ever been. And I think that I'm used to-

• 1:41:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Tom, what do you think's going on here? DeSantis?

• 1:41:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there's definitely political stuff going back and forth. And I think the guy that he referred to as a jackass, he's talking about the Republican House Speaker Daniel Perez. I think so. Because Perez says, he said to the media that he accused DeSantis of, quote, "telling lies and stories that never happened and having, quote, 'temper tantrums,'" unquote. So that's from Daniel Perez. So I had not thought, I have not seen this particular clip. In the research I did for this story, I didn't see that. And I had thought he was more quiet than that. But that was a full-blown defense that you just saw right there. And this is political.

• 1:42:34Tom Ellsworth?

  But now, the real question is, it can be political, and there also can be something there. And Hope, Florida, you know, it would seem to me that all you have to say is, "Hey, come audit the books. Did 10 million go somewhere that it shouldn't have gone?" That's all you have to say. You know, he dropped it off here, he did that. That could be true. But you can also just say, "You know what? Let's have a hearing, and let's audit this." And I'd like DeSantis to see that. Now, the other side of it is, the guy who said he's completely crashed the ground, that's a political science professor saying that. And that's a pundit observation from the outside. So, I don't know. But it sure seems like a lot of people are ticked off, including DeSantis.

• 1:43:19Tom Ellsworth?

  And if there's nothing to this, have a hearing, open the books, and clear it up.

• 1:43:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Who runs Hope, Florida Foundation?

• 1:43:27Tom Ellsworth?

  I do, I thought that is Casey DeSantis established it and she's on the board along with, as you would imagine, people that have worked with and for the gubernatorial campaigns.

• 1:43:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Foundation was established in August 2023. The Hope Foundation nonprofit affiliate with Florida's first lady Casey DeSantis is overseen by board of directors. As seen, 2025 board includes Joshua Hay, president, Fatima Perez, Tina Vidal Dort, Stephanie White, Wendy Nissan. In 2025, the foundation faced scrutiny over 10 million auto donation received from a Medicaid settlement with Centene Corporation. The funds were subsequently distributed to two nonprofits, which then contributed to political committees opposing marijuana legislation ballot measure caused Governor DeSantis opposed. Amid the controversy, several leadership changes occurred. Eric Dellenbeck, who had been serving as the executive director of Hope Florida program, resigned from its

• 1:44:27Patrick Bet-David?

  position May 2025. Board members Mohammed Jazil and Jake Farmer also resigned from the foundation. The foundation's leadership acknowledged opposing these developments have proven ongoing investigations. Yeah, I mean, the easiest thing to do is to just show kind of what happened here, because if you don't, then they're saying this is going to be the bill and the Hillary Clinton of the right. That's the last thing you want to do.

• 1:44:44Tom Ellsworth?

  What they're saying, 10 million left, and it went to, you know, a donation, and then those donations went to PACs. You can't do that. You're bouncing the money. You see what I mean? It's like if I gave you 5 million, and I said, oh, I just paid Vinnie a consulting fee for two years for, you know, media and other things like that. And then you turned around and donated that to a PAC that was supporting something that, and I'm screaming about education in schools, and you gave it to a PAC that's putting money out there for education in schools. You see that?

• 1:45:19Speaker 05

  Conflict of interest.

• 1:45:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it also kind of, it's the way money, this is what we've talked about Ukraine. Money goes to Ukraine, and it comes back into US PACs, or it comes back into US defense contractors that then really like Senator O'Shaughnessy for some reason.

• 1:45:34Speaker 05

  Vote for me.

• 1:45:35Tom Ellsworth?

  And so if that's it, just show it, and say that's not what happened, guys.

• 1:45:38Patrick Bet-David?

  If there is a guy that knows you're gonna get caught with this, wasn't he a lawyer in the military?

• 1:45:46Tom Ellsworth?

  He was a JAG.

• 1:45:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Lawyer? Wasn't he, I mean, he's been-

• 1:45:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Judge Advocate General.

• 1:45:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he's been, he's been doing this for a minute. Doesn't he know this is a, probably not a good idea? The last thing you want to be is the Bill and Hillary Clinton of the right.

• 1:46:02Tom Ellsworth?

  You don't want this to be your Whitewater.

• 1:46:04Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you, when you run, you, so anyways, I'll give my final thoughts. Adam, your thoughts on this before we wrap up. This seems like a job for Dome Man to show up and figure out what the hell's going on here. Because this is not a good look for DeSantis. Then again, could this just be a political hit job? There's some truth to this, I don't know. Here's what I do know. In 2024, legalization of marijuana was on the ballot in Florida. And it's been inching closer and closer and closer in Florida. And it failed yet again. And it passed in Nebraska, which is, I would assume, a little bit more conservative than Florida. So I don't know what the hell's going on with these initiatives, but in my opinion, I would like to see marijuana legalized in Florida.

• 1:46:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I think marijuana is a way less addictive, way less dangerous substance than alcohol. I think the worst thing you can do on marijuana is like, not do shit for a little bit.

• 1:46:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, enough of marijuana. Do you think it hurts or helps DeSantis?

• 1:47:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I would love for you to do one of your bong noises right now to coincide with this. But I, this is not a good look for DeSantis or Casey, and I don't know what's going on with the nepotism- Let me tell you. But Byron Donalds is running for governor, so we'll see what he has to say about this. Here's, here's a challenge I have with this year.

• 1:47:19Patrick Bet-David?

  He doesn't give me the vibes that he's capable of doing something like this.

• 1:47:26Patrick Bet-David?

  So, look, a lot of DeSantis people cannot stand me. They cannot stand me because they blame me for the end of his campaign and you. The last day of his campaign was when we came on your podcast and, you know, everybody talked about the shoe gate and all, boot gate and all this stuff. And you're the one that did this. Okay, I got it. I, trust me, I get a tilt today. The Santas people walk up to me and we're talking all this other stuff. I said, don't blame- His lack of marketing on me, uh, one podcast, okay? He, he made very bad moves when it comes down to marketing. Yep. But as much as I see that as a terrible marketer, I don't see the guy doing something like this. I don't see him as a criminal. I don't see him as doing anything like this. Now, let me give you the other part that is a problem sometimes,

• 1:48:11Patrick Bet-David?

  which is why I prefer people who have been in business and have made money that eventually have high level positions that they're running states. You know why I like that? Because when you run a business, you've gone through plenty of lawsuits and you've had issues and you've made money and you're not tempted to, for a hundred thousand dollars or half a million dollars or five million dollars or two million dollars. You know, you're like, whatever, I don't, I don't need any of that stuff. I've already made the money. I don't need the money from you, right? It allows you to be a little bit free. But sometimes when you're in moments like this, how many parties do you think he's gone to where he's around rich people? So many.

• 1:48:47Tom Ellsworth?

  All of them.

• 1:48:48Patrick Bet-David?

  All of them. And how many times do you think he comes home with his wife and is like, you know what? Wow, when are we gonna have some money? You know what? Why don't we do this? Everybody else does this. Why, why don't we do it? You know, so, so they, they're doing this. They're, how about we make some money? It's about time with all the service that we make some money here. And I don't even know how they made money here. How's the money made here, Tom? What does this do? Like, can we find out what her salary is with Hope Florida Initiative? Kickback, flush funds.

• 1:49:14Tom Ellsworth?

  That's always the issue with nonprofits is salary and then getting paid to speak.

• 1:49:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, what is Casey DeSantis's income from Hope? It should be public, right? From Hope, what is it called? Hope, uh, Florida, what is it called? Hope, what, give, give me the name.

• 1:49:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Hope Florida.

• 1:49:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Hope Florida. Oh, it's not telling you?

• 1:49:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Does it show you what her salary is?

• 1:49:35Tom Ellsworth?

  It says First Lady Casey DeSantis does not receive a salary from the Hope Florida Foundation.

• 1:49:39Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what I'm saying. Look, I've, I, I spent some time with him and three, four hours just to watch how she is. They don't give me the vibe that they're doing this. They give me the vibe that they love America. They give me the vibe that they're very ambitious. They give me the vibe that he's a very good fighter. That he fights, he's just not as good of a marketer and, and stage guy. As Trump is. He's not, and by the way. This could also be a, some of the people that are wanting more Byron Donalds than him to win. This could be a very simple. You know, little thing that you throw in there that, you know. Good point. House of Cards. It's just they're talking about it. Yeah.

• 1:50:16Tom Ellsworth?

  There's no reason to, there's no reason to, to, to shoot at him politically. Because there's just gonna be, he's term limits.

• 1:50:23Patrick Bet-David?

  This works though. I know it does, but Casey can't run. Because this, this goes with her and they want Casey to run. And by the way, I'm not even a fan of Casey running. I'm not even like, you know.

• 1:50:31Tom Ellsworth?

  I see that angle, so they neutralize.

• 1:50:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, they're trying to eliminate her running. It's actually a good strategy, but it's deceptive and dark.

• 1:50:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:39Patrick Bet-David?

  And you gotta get ahead of it. There is 5% chance that I believe they're capable of. Doing something this dumb. To tarnish a good reputation that they have. Do they have a reputation of being arrogant and not calling Trump? Yes. Do they have a reputation of being a little bit insecure and trying to seem bigger than they really are? Yes. Do they have a, but do they have a reputation of running the state incredibly well during COVID? And making the world want to come here? Yes. So, and I, I, I have a hard time with this one. Um, I have a hard time with this one, but you know, if there's proof, there's proof. If she's not taking any incomes, how did this financially benefit? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what's going on here, but uh, we'll find out, we'll find out as stories come out.

• 1:51:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let's go to the next story. Uh, California, we haven't forgotten about you guys. Every time we don't do stories about California, people in California get upset. Let us do a story for you guys to excite you a little bit. State Farm not satisfied with the 17% rate hike in California. They're asking for nearly 30%. And you know, California politicians are not going to be okay with this, but Tom's got an opinion on this. So, the 17% hike, California homeowners plans to request an additional 11% to get nearly to 30%. San Francisco Chronicle reported a week after securing approval to raise home insurance rates. By 17%, State Farm general, uh, revealed.

• 1:51:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Plans to ask regulations for an additional 11% following an emergency approval by Commissioner Ricardo Lara due to recent LA fires California wildfire victims criticized State Farm for low ball and damage estimates of practice Senator Josh Hawley said the company has been accused of in other US disasters despite this Lara granted the 70% hike 17% hike effective June though State Farm originally sought 30% increase in June 2024 Tom.

• 1:52:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, this, this story won't die and the reason it won't die is because the problem can't die easy and it won't die easy and so State Farm is saying I need more money for to run my company effectively and provide coverage in California and I think State Farm was frustrated that they didn't get the increase they wanted but they saw the backlash they saw what's going on in the media they saw that the consumer the people that were surveyed was like hell no I don't want to be put on Fair Plan by accident so it's like Pat you and I could own houses in Malibu and get forced on the Fair Plan now we have no choice and we're like wait we don't want to be on Fair Plan sorry dude you get Fair Plan which has a cap remember cap of $3 million to $3.5 million and I think it's being raised

• 1:53:04Tom Ellsworth?

  to four of coverage for your house so Vinny if you're forced to go on Fair Plan and you have a $10 million house in Malibu guess what happens burns the ground you get 4 million 3 million from Fair Plan and the rest you eat because you're rich and you can afford it but there's a lot of people that are frustrated by that and so I think State Farm read the tea leaves and said you know if we leave California Newsom and everybody here have got more trouble and let's face it State Farm wants to operate at a profit but they have paid out record amount of dollars now to Josh Hawley's point have those payouts been fair for each and every policyholder like did you you're you're you needed 400

• 1:53:49Tom Ellsworth?

  for your house and they said here's 360 take her to leave it and you had to eat the 40 you know that happens a lot with the justers but this is State Farm saying look you want me to there's a little bit of State Farm can do this at gunpoint now and there's a little bit of California You kind of screwed this thing up and then and now you've got this playing out. This wouldn't be happening if if California had good management of the infrastructure system of the water systems or reservoir systems, a well and a well vetted and well equipped a fire department, they would have been ready for this. Would the would the wind, you know, driving those fires still have caused tremendous damage? Yes, but would have been tremendously less and you wouldn't have State Farm on the brink

• 1:54:33Tom Ellsworth?

  of leaving the state, which puts all these people in a pinch. So you know what? I'd love to see, you know, because I have sat down with people that have brought me business plans. So is Pat. I'd love Gavin Newsom to sit down and say, look, you've got aspirations to run on a national stage, but what's your business plan for California? How do you make this work? Take me through the plan. How do you deal with the big three in California, which right now is border, you know, homelessness, insurance? Those are like the three that are bouncing around regardless of who you're survey. I'd love to see Gavin Newsom sit down with somebody and talk about what are you going to do? And, you know, set aside some of your hand gestures and stuff and just sit down and

• 1:55:17Tom Ellsworth?

  say, here's the fix for insurance in California. Because I, you know, I got a lot of friends that still live there that are asking that exact question.

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• 1:56:27Patrick Bet-David?

  So it really sucks to live in California from a math perspective. I get it that there's mountains and there's beaches and it's, you can ski and surf on the safe day, but to live and to afford California?

• 1:56:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Show me how the math is mathing on this one, guys. Here are just some quick numbers for you. The median household income for America is $80,000. The median household income in California is $90,000. Okay, so it's a $10,000 difference. Now, let's talk about homeownership. The average homeownership in America is between $400,000 and $500,000. So, if you're looking at a home in California, that's going to cost you between $800,000 and $900,000. So it's almost double the price of a house in the rest of America, but the average income is 20% more? How the hell do you afford to live in California? What opinion do you have specific about this?

• 1:57:22Patrick Bet-David?

  So now, you own this house, and now you can barely afford it. So now you have to pay 30% premium on insurance that you didn't necessarily account for. So this is just a math issue. You know what this reminds me of? It's almost like the reverse COVID thing. Yeah, but let me ask you this, though. But here's a question. You're the governor of Florida. You're the governor of California. Sure. All right, here we go. I'm State Farm, and I tell you, hey, Gavin, respectfully, if we can't go to 30%, I'm at a loss. My board is not going to let me stay here. I have to leave the state, and I'm going to have to give you 12 months. Yep. So I can't afford to pay all these fire stuff that just happened, and I can't comfortably stay here.

• 1:58:03Patrick Bet-David?

  It's costing the company a lot of money, and it's making it very challenging. So what can we do here? Well, is State Farm the only option? They have a few options, but they've lost a lot of options. Who else have we lost? You want to know how many? They've lost a handful of options. A lot of options, but you already know you have a homeowner's insurance problem in the state of California.

• 1:58:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, exactly. So, you know, what business are we in? We're the insurance business, but not only in the insurance business, we're in the brokerage business, right? So what happens when only one carrier is the only option? Well, you're gonna get screwed because you only have one option.

• 1:58:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:34Tom Ellsworth?

  One of the best things in life is having options. So you work through a wholesaler or a BGA or an agency.

• 1:58:40Patrick Bet-David?

  So right here, let me just say.

• 1:58:40Tom Ellsworth?

  And says you have 10 different options. They're all gone.

• 1:58:42Patrick Bet-David?

  In 2022, Allstate paused sales of new homeowners insurance in California due to wildfire risk and higher operational costs. This is 2022 before the fire. Farmers Insurance Group began limiting coverage in California in 2023, and one of its subsidiaries, Farmers Direct Property and Casualty Company, withdrew from the state entirely later that year. Nationwide, a company informed California in 2023 that it would stop renewing all of its homeowner's insurance policies in the state by June of 2025. Next month, CHUB announced in 2021 it would significantly reduce homeowner's coverage in California, pointing to wildfire risk. Hartford stopped writing new homeowner's insurance policies early 2024. This is a year ago. American National announced in 2023 it would stop offering homeowner's insurance policies in California.

• 1:59:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Travelers announced it would not renew homeowner's insurance policies for thousands of California properties in 2022 and 2023 due to wildfire risk. This is all before the big fire that happened in Malibu Palisverdes. So your options, they're all leaving.

• 1:59:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly. So.

• 1:59:45Patrick Bet-David?

  So what do you do? You're the governor.

• 1:59:46Tom Ellsworth?

  So, listen, what's the basic premise of economics? Supply and demand. Demand is super high because you need homeowner's insurance because, you know, fires are burning down your house, and the supply is completely limited. So who gets screwed here? The average person that just wants a house. How the hell can they afford it? That was my initial point. Is that the homeownership already costs so much.

• 2:00:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You haven't answered my question. I get your argument. What do you do if you're Newsom in the... Tom, what do you do if you're Newsom in this situation?

• 2:00:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Gavin Newsom, I have to...

• 2:00:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I asked you publicly, we're doing the interview, similar to the way Megyn Kelly did with Jake Tapper.

• 2:00:19Tom Ellsworth?

  You have to go.

• 2:00:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You asked the question. State Farm goes to 17. They're still at a loss, okay? They are still at a loss. If you don't take them to 30, they're shutting down, like Nationwide, like Farmers, like Allstate, like others. What are you gonna do, Governor?

• 2:00:34Tom Ellsworth?

  If I'm Newsom, this is not a politically good answer, but this is what he has to say. And I'm not going to imitate him, you can do that, but he's got to say, there's going to be some short-term pain because I got to give State Farm the rate increase. And I'm meeting with all the insurance companies and I'm talking about a multi-billion dollar plan for forestry management and reservoir management. And I'm putting these things in place in these bordered areas so that we can reduce the risk of loss when wildfires happen. And I'm putting pressure on PG&E for more active forestry management in the smaller communities, like where they had those wildfires and entire communities of 3, 4,000 homes were wiped out.

• 2:01:18Tom Ellsworth?

  So I have to put it in two sides. California, we're going to have pain, but I am, because I got to authorize this, otherwise you don't have carriers to offer it. I'm going to talk to the other carriers and I'm going to show them what California is doing with active programs to reduce the risk of loss. Because wildfires will happen, but we can have reservoirs, we can have more fire teams, we can have response rates that are going to be there to react to it so that reduce the loss. That's, that's, if I'm governor, that's what I have to do. And I got to sit down with travelers and say, will you, will you at least renew?

• 2:01:52Patrick Bet-David?

  So now I'm going to turn around with the question with Gavin, Gavin Newsom, and you're the governor, I'm going to say, that's a great answer, and that's fair. But let me show you this other thing here. This is as of seven months ago, 10 months ago, California is home to nearly 40 million people, 55% of whom are estimated to own homes. If you are a current prospective California homeowner, finding home insurance may be a challenge. In fact, the California Association of Realtors 2023 Annual Housing Market Survey found that nearly 7% of real estate deals in the state fell out of escrow because buyers couldn't afford insurance. So Gavin Newsom, question for you. If State Farm is asking for a 17% rate, that means with their current rate, 7% of buyers are still falling through.

• 2:02:37Patrick Bet-David?

  What will this 7% be if you allow State Farm to raise their insurance policy prices, which they have to, 30%? What is that 7%?

• 2:02:46Tom Ellsworth?

  I have analysts in my office looking at this, and we're hoping to cut that in half.

• 2:02:50Patrick Bet-David?

  How are you gonna do it?

• 2:02:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Because you have to, you have to get carriers that are willing to write the insurance.

• 2:02:57Patrick Bet-David?

  You're talking politics, but you're talking politics. So this is the part that he has a very, very big problem at his hand. And I don't know, quite frankly, what he's gonna do with it. So Adam, unless if you have an answer, I'm going to the next one.

• 2:03:07Tom Ellsworth?

  So you say all the time that bad policies have consequences. These are the, these are the consequences of basically all the policies that have led to this. If you want an answer, you know, how did you end up in Texas? You got recruited from the most part. You tell the story about Governor, I think it was Rick Perry at the time.

• 2:03:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 2:03:24Tom Ellsworth?

  That took you to a, I think a baseball game with Nolan Ryan.

• 2:03:27Patrick Bet-David?

  And the mayor of Frisco at the time, an expansion minded mayor named Masso.

• 2:03:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Thank you.

• 2:03:33Tom Ellsworth?

  They recruited. So if I'm Gavin Newsom, I need to go back hat in hand to the rest of these carriers and start recruiting. You've been in the insurance business for 20 plus years. You understand what it means to have relationships with multitude of carriers.

• 2:03:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, I heard that already, but what I'm saying is.

• 2:03:48Tom Ellsworth?

  You need to recruit. You need to recruit them.

• 2:03:51Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not coming.

• 2:03:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, then.

• 2:03:52Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not coming.

• 2:03:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Then you need to bring them back. You need to figure out.

• 2:03:55Patrick Bet-David?

  But you don't understand what I'm saying to you, Adam. On one end, if you don't allow the insurance company to raise their rates 30%, they're leaving. On the other end, if you allow them to increase the rates of going up 30% for them to be profitable. If you do that, homeowners are not buying houses. This is a double edged sword for the state of California that is not gonna be addressed that quickly. This is not gonna be addressed that. This is a travesty. This is catastrophic. This is, this is not something small.

• 2:04:26Tom Ellsworth?

  It's just 20 years in the making.

• 2:04:27Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not something, this is what I'm going to, and guys, I don't mean to push you guys around. What I'm trying to get to is there is no answer to this right now.

• 2:04:34Tom Ellsworth?

  What would you do?

• 2:04:37Patrick Bet-David?

  He doesn't have it.

• 2:04:38Tom Ellsworth?

  So you tricked me.

• 2:04:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 2:04:40Tom Ellsworth?

  No matter what I said, you were like, no.

• 2:04:41Patrick Bet-David?

  The point is, there is nothing, unless if you guys come up with a creative idea.

• 2:04:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:46Patrick Bet-David?

  There is nothing he can do here.

• 2:04:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Here's an idea. Run for president and get the hell out of California, Newsom.

• 2:04:51Patrick Bet-David?

  But do you know, do you know what the real, real answer is here? You know what the real answer is here?

• 2:04:56Tom Ellsworth?

  What is it?

• 2:04:56Patrick Bet-David?

  If you have to choose between the two pills, which one do you take? Allow the insurance companies to raise the rates or now that 7% becomes 20% of people are not buying their homes because they can't afford homeowners insurance. Which of those two pills do you take? You gotta raise the rates. You gotta raise the rates. Because guess what? You know why you gotta raise the rates? Because I'm not buying a house if I don't have insurance because I don't think you're taking care of the fire stuff anytime soon.

• 2:05:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Nope.

• 2:05:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if you're taking care of the earthquakes anytime soon. Why would I buy a home without a homeowner's insurance? I'm not gonna be doing that. There's a name for it, they call it, right? What do they call it? The people that free, free ball?

• 2:05:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Fair plan?

• 2:05:31Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no. There's a name for people that go.

• 2:05:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, they're just free balling it. Yeah, they're free balling it.

• 2:05:35Patrick Bet-David?

  There was a name for it. They don't even do fair or anything. There's a term they use in California. No, no. There's a term they use in California for those who go without having homeowner's insurance. There's a term they use. I don't know what the term is called. Uninsured, there's a term for it.

• 2:05:53Tom Ellsworth?

  They're just rolling the dice, man. They are just rolling the dice.

• 2:05:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's California.

• 2:05:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Why the hell would you buy a house at this point?

• 2:05:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me go to, let me go to the next story here about what President Trump did. Rob, what page is the one with the golden dome? What page is the one with the golden dome? I don't know if we have it here or not.

• 2:06:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, golden dome is page four.

• 2:06:09Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go through golden dome. Obviously, dude, Adam, Vinnie, and Tom had strong opinions about this. Trump unveils ambitious and expensive plans for golden dome, Vinnie, missile defense. So this is what Israel had, but I love the way he did this deal. I absolutely love the way he did this deal. Rob, please play the clip.

• 2:06:34Speaker 03

  I'm pleased to announce that we have officially selected an architecture for this state-of-the-art system that will deploy next-generation technologies across the land, sea, and space, including space-based sensors and interceptors. And Canada has called us and they want to be a part of it. So we'll be talking to them. They want to have protection also. So as usual, we help Canada do the best we can. This design for the golden dome will integrate with our existing defense capabilities and should be fully operational before the end of my term. So we'll have it done in about three years.

• 2:07:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Once fully constructed, the Golden Dome will be capable of intercepting missiles, even if they are launched from other sides of the world, and even if they are launched from space. And we will have the best system ever built. As you know, we helped Israel with theirs, and it was very successful. And now we have technology that's even far advanced from that. But including hypersonic missiles, ballistic missiles, and advanced cruise missiles, all of them will be knocked out of the air. We will truly be completing the job that President Reagan started 40 years ago, forever ending the missile threat to the American homeland.

• 2:07:53Tom Ellsworth?

  And the success rate is very close to 100%, which is incredible. When you think of it, you're shooting bullets out of the air. I'm also pleased to report that the one big, beautiful bill will include $25 billion for the Golden Dome to help construction get underway. That's the initial sort of down posit. And we have, probably, you're talking about, General, we're talking about $175 billion total cost of this when it's completed.

• 2:08:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So, Tom, thoughts on this?

• 2:08:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there is a comment. First of all, I like it. We have to do this. And if anybody has seen what the Iron Dome has done to protect the citizens of Israel, who have all these rocket attacks coming at them, and what they've done, and how they've been protecting it, you can see these are the kind of defense systems that work, and thank goodness that they exist. And now we're just talking about taking it to next generation. Next generation. And by the way, I love the quote. Now, it's not that I love the quote, like I like the quote. It was very ironic quote from the Foreign Ministry spokesperson of China, Mao Ning, who goes by Mao, gee, that's appropriate. He said, quote, "The U.S. by putting itself first and being obsessed with pursuing absolute security..."

• 2:09:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, yeah, protecting our citizens, right? He continues, "This violates the principle and diminishes the security for all and undermines global strategic balance and stability." Wait a minute, it doesn't undermine balance, it helps ensure balance because you're trying to build stuff like this.

• 2:09:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You're saying China.

• 2:09:31Tom Ellsworth?

  China is saying this, you're undermining the balance. Yeah, the balance with your thumb on the scale Mao and underlying global stability. No, you're undermining stability, we're bringing stability back because when the Pershing missiles were threatened to go to Germany, the Berlin Wall came down. There's a lot of things that came before Reagan's speech. Reagan's speech was tremendous and it was a challenge, but guess what? It brought stability and balance into Europe and this brings security to the US. People can talk about, "Oh, well, it's unproven technology." Well, that's what the money is for, is to go do it.

• 2:10:13Tom Ellsworth?

  But it's pretty comical to have Mao from China saying, "Oh, the US putting itself first and being obsessed with the personal security of its citizen is undermining global balance and stability."

• 2:10:26Patrick Bet-David?

  That statement alone says a lot about their motives.

• 2:10:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, my gosh. Oh, nothing to see here.

• 2:10:30Patrick Bet-David?

  That is such a revealing, revealing insecurity and concern of ways they'd want to attack. Adam, you've been to Israel many times.

• 2:10:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:10:39Patrick Bet-David?

  And have you ever been there where there's an attack and seen what happens with the dome?

• 2:10:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:10:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, what does it look like?

• 2:10:45Tom Ellsworth?

  But actually, I'm not saying this is like I've experienced at all. It happens all the time. Rob, look at what I just sent you. These are just typical, this is my buddy who's in Israel as we speak. This is a Tuesday and he goes, "These are the missiles the Iron Dome just intercepted on a Tuesday." So people want to understand what's like, who's Israel fighting? It's the same enemy that America will be fighting if we don't recognize the danger of radical jihadist terrorists all around the world. Imagine you're in San Diego and Mexico shooting missiles, whether it's Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis. Rob, there's multiple images, I don't know if you have more than that. That's the major city of Tel Aviv. Do you see how many missiles are flying? This is not casual, guys. You're in San Diego, you're in Miami, Cuba, Cuban Missile Crisis

• 2:11:30Tom Ellsworth?

  almost at the war over it.

• 2:11:32Patrick Bet-David?

  So now they're doing this, he wants to do it here.

• 2:11:34Tom Ellsworth?

  So, so, yeah, so people understand what's this strange relationship that Israel has with America? Well, uh, we sort of help fund the Iron Dome and there's been many questions. Why are we funding a foreign country? Why are we doing this? Well, it's called, let's see how it works over there. Uh, when people are getting bombed on a daily basis, missiles on a daily basis, see what works, see what doesn't work. And now when we bring it here to America, we'll know the pros, the cons, the leaks, the opportunities of what we're gonna build here. So Israel's on the front lines of exactly what United States is preparing with this Golden Dome. I think it's amazing what Trump is doing. And they used Israel as a tester startup example of what works and what doesn't work.

• 2:12:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what I like about the way he did the deal? Here's what I like about the way he did the deal. 25 billion to start off, gonna end up costing 175 billion. He's making Canada participate and pay for a portion of it. Why? Because Canada's military expenditure is only 1.2, 1.3% of their GDP. We're on 3.5%. Mexico's 0.7%. So the way he's doing the deal is great. As a Canada's gonna pay for it as well. Carney, uh, has apparently agreed to do this. And then the way he says it, when is it gonna get done? Did you see when it was gonna get done? Right before the end of his term. Why does it get done right before the end of his term?

• 2:12:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Weird.

• 2:12:51Patrick Bet-David?

  It is kinda weird.

• 2:12:51Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, Pat, in your opinion, why are we creating this? Meaning, what countries or organizations are we most worried about would potentially shoot missiles?

• 2:13:03Patrick Bet-David?

  This is life insurance. You're not doing it because of anything. You're just buying insurance.

• 2:13:07Tom Ellsworth?

  But, but go there. What countries do we fear that would potentially do this?

• 2:13:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's the first person that reacted to it? China. Okay. I mean, China reacted to it, right?

• 2:13:17Tom Ellsworth?

  So who else?

• 2:13:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I don't know if it's that many. I don't know if it's that many, you know?

• 2:13:22Tom Ellsworth?

  I have four on my list.

• 2:13:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, who do you have? China, Russia, Iran, and who's your favorite?

• 2:13:26Tom Ellsworth?

  I have, and in a very particular order, I have North Korea last of these four. I have Russia, third.

• 2:13:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 2:13:33Tom Ellsworth?

  I have China, second, and first, and it's not even close, is Iran.

• 2:13:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 2:13:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Why is Iran the most dangerous, in my opinion? Because they believe in the afterlife, they don't believe in life. They'll take us all to heaven or hell to go see Allah and not even blink twice. China, what's the religion in China? Nothing. They believe in the state, communism. What's the religion in Russia? I don't know, whatever Putin allows you to do. North Korea, they pray to the dictator. They're Orthodox Christian. Okay, yeah, well, allegedly. Well, Russian Orthodox. Iran, they will take everybody to hell in a handbasket and not even think twice. They're playing by a completely different set of rules.

• 2:14:10Speaker 05

  Does China have nukes?

• 2:14:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, China has nukes.

• 2:14:13Speaker 05

  Iran doesn't have, China has to be.

• 2:14:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Not that we know about.

• 2:14:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, China has to be number one.

• 2:14:17Tom Ellsworth?

  And that's why.

• 2:14:18Speaker 05

  China is our biggest threat, hands down, plain and simple. Those, and mind you, those spy balloons that were flying over, I know Biden reversed a bunch of policies that Trump made, and by the way, Trump made Space Force for a reason. Everything is strategic with him, and guess what? I did some research, you know what China's way of dropping an EMP, which, mind you, it's only a matter of time till they go off to the grid. That's how they do it, Tom, they fly these balloons because they can't really be detected, and they drop them at high altitude, and a large area is finished. Adam, I get it, Iran is bad, especially watching them.

• 2:14:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Nuclear creates that electrical pulse you can read about in physics that neutralizes things that are passing electricity.

• 2:14:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, Iran, yeah, screaming, but yo, China's been at war with us, and they have all multiple fronts, the brainwashing of the kids, the flying the balloons, the monitoring, they're trying to screw us over with money, COVID, they're, they're.

• 2:15:10Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, say what you will about all these things. If your enemy, the weapon of militaries is the nuclear sub.

• 2:15:23Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 2:15:24Tom Ellsworth?

  is the weapon and Iran has nineteen subs they have a reasonable not a formidable reasonable Navy but China and Russia have formidable navies exactly and you don't want Iran to have nukes and then now have a nuclear sub where you can you can get pretty far with that

• 2:15:43Patrick Bet-David?

  let me go to a story that I think all of you guys have opinions on Israel preparing to strike Iran's nuclear facilities even as Trump tries to negotiate the deal report says okay so Rob if you can if you have a I don't know if you have clip on this no you don't okay Israel US intelligence officials this from New York Post cited by CNN report Israel is preparing a possible strike on Iran's nuclear facility with a source stating the chance of an Israel strike on an Iranian nuclear facility has gone up significantly in recent months and a prospect of a Trump negotiated US Iran deal that doesn't remove all of Iran's uranium makes the chances of a strike more likely intercepted messages and Israel military movements

• 2:16:23Patrick Bet-David?

  including air munitions and exercises indicate an imminent attack despite President Trump's diplomatic efforts Israel feels caught between a rock and a hard place due to the stated stalled US Iran talks with former intelligence officer Jonathan Panikom noting at the end of the day the Israeli decision making is going to be predicated on US policy determinations and actions and what agreement President Trump does or does not come to with Iran Adam

• 2:16:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinny you go first go ahead I'll let me just I'm sending Rob

• 2:16:52Speaker 05

  okay well um listen Trump is trying to work out a deal to keep things from spiraling all right he's working on diplomacy that's the angle the anti-war angle and trying to avoid another pointless war okay and Israel is moving like they don't give a damn and I get it Iran is bad let's put that to the side but like diplomacy is just a stall tactic and they what they really want is strikes okay BB's it's not like he's hiding it he wants us and them to go to war with Iran you guys remember last week when I reported about Mike Waltz using the Israeli signal chat what was he doing he wasn't messing around he was in contact with Israeli officials that they were discussing

• 2:17:34Speaker 05

  National policy, Iran being on the forefront and he was trying to quietly help persuade to pull us in a conflict that we're watching unfold in front of our eyes. Okay, but even with them gone, Israel's acting, they're still gonna move without us. The reports are coming out that Bibi and Trump, they're not really cool, they're not really on talking terms, but listen, this Iran strikes, it's going to lead to a freaking war. Israel's our allies, we're gonna get dragged into this shit. I don't want any American troops or any other war, Trump is trying to avoid it at all costs, but Bibi, if Bibi wants it, Bibi's gonna get it. If he wants to do it, good luck, go do your thing, okay? Don't be dragging us into that shit because we know that's what's gonna come out and I don't care about any other country except America.

• 2:18:19Speaker 05

  And I want zero, zero American troops to be in harms way because of a guy that's been begging for a war. Yes, they're bad and there's other ways to take care of Iran, but bombing and starting another war, I'm not a fan of it at all, period.

• 2:18:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 2:18:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, listen, Trump and Bibi Netanyahu, I think they're on the same page. They have aligned interests, but they don't have the exact same interests. So you're going to disagree with an ally of yours, you're not gonna agree on everything because there's two totally different things going on here. Trump, at his fiber of his being, he's a dealmaker, he wants to make a deal. He wants to show, yeah, that deal that Obama did was a bad deal, I want to put together a good deal. Trump wants to win. Bibi Netanyahu, he's worried about his existence.

• 2:19:12Tom Ellsworth?

  You've heard the term existential threat? Iran is an existential threat to not only Israel, to the rest of the world, to the rest of the region. Why do you think to Saudi Arabia, why do you think even Qatar, why do you think UAE is so keen to do a deal here? Because they know that the threat to the Western civilization or to the modernization of the world is the Islamic regime in Iran. So Trump's concern is not as extreme as Bibi Netanyahu's. So would Trump like to see a deal? Hell yeah. Would Netanyahu like to see some function of a deal? Hell yeah. But if a deal isn't done, in my opinion, there's one thing that the Israeli government, whether it's left, right, center, is not going to allow happen.

• 2:19:56Tom Ellsworth?

  And that is the Islamic Republic of Iran to get a nuclear weapon. We all know that they have allegedly taken out some of the scientists, the nuclear scientists. They go missing. They take these people out. They all know that they have taken down some of their defense missile capabilities. So the next logical step is if someone's an existential threat, when someone tells you who they are, believe them, death to America, death to Israel, there's a clock. I don't know if you can find this, there's a clock in Iran, and it's the Israel death clock. So you're not, this is what I was talking about earlier, you're not dealing with logical actors. They believe in jihad, they believe in Sharia law, they believe in the afterlife.

• 2:20:38Tom Ellsworth?

  And if that's what you believe, you're willing to take out everybody around you to accomplish that goal. Here's Iran's doomsday clock for Israel's end. Well, ironically, it ran out of power right there. But they're an existential threat. And yeah, they might be coming for Israel, but they're also coming for the Western world. And how many, do you see these stories, by the way, shifting gears about people just out there saying they're Islamifying churches now? Because in my opinion, you'd correct me if I'm wrong, first they come for the Saturday people, the Jews, and then they're coming for the Sunday people, buddy. That's you guys.

• 2:21:23Tom Ellsworth?

  So you might be thinking, wow, look, you know, just let them deal with the Jews, that's no big deal. You think they're stopping there, my Christian friends, my Catholic friends? They're coming for you next.

• 2:21:32Patrick Bet-David?

  And the useful idiots die last.

• 2:21:34Tom Ellsworth?

  And then they're gonna recruit

• 2:21:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, go ahead and play the clip.

• 2:21:36Tom Ellsworth?

  dumb Americans. Go ahead. Who's this guy?

• 2:21:39Speaker 05

  We are buying these churches. We bought

• 2:21:44Speaker 05

  three churches so far, converted them to mosques, and now we have one we are buying with a school to make it, because we have to serve the same people.

• 2:21:56Speaker 05

  The people who were part of that community, one day they will be Muslims. So we'll make it into a mosque and an Islamic school for our children and their children, Insha Allah. Hundred years ago, they invaded the Muslim world and they built missionary schools and destroyed Islamic schools and mosques. Today, we bring the favor back,

• 2:22:24Speaker 05

  turn their churches into mosques and their schools into Islamic schools. Bring the light of Islam to here. We're able to buy, ready to go, institutions that have been there for a long time, but they emptied out. And now it is time to be filled with Muslims, with reverts, converts. This is an election year. But we're not gonna be happy with either candidate. We have to be happy when Islam becomes the best candidate for us. I ask Allah, Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala, to give Islam the victory in this country.

• 2:23:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, your thoughts on what's going on with Israel, Iran, Israel attacking Iran? Are you uncomfortable with it? Where are you at with that?

• 2:23:13Tom Ellsworth?

  No. Look, the fact that it's in a headline doesn't mean that it's not happening if there's no headline. The US and Israel strategically work to neutralize assets all the time. And it just happened that Soleimani and a motorcade around the back of a airport was a high-visibility target and, you know, that missile made a loud sound. But there are underlings and people that are getting neutralized all the time. You see just the... And so I do not believe for a minute that the US and the UK, by the way, even though the UK is teetering because of its government,

• 2:23:57Tom Ellsworth?

  they are still supporting the neutralization of the nuclear capability. And, you know, if the rumor is that Israel's gonna do it, Israel may do it, but the dog don't go off the leash unless we unclip it. And the US is right there with it. You know, so Israel's not gonna be acting alone on there because to take out centrifuges and capabilities, that's in everybody's interest, and we're right there with them. And so do I think that there's... Where there's smoke, there's fire? That there's something cooking here? If our intelligence tells us that they are really close

• 2:24:38Tom Ellsworth?

  on the systems and everything, where they can do that with the uranium, now you've got core, it's not terribly hard to build the bomb around that, and then you just, you deploy the bomb, which is why Japan's been getting so nervous for the past 15 years with North Korea keeps building slightly better and slightly better and slightly better, you know, missiles that they casually launch into the water. And South Korea's even more concerned than Japan. And South Korea's like, that thing just flew by us, and everybody's concerned about it. So, and that's why, what did Trump do? Trump went over there and talked to the kid, right? In North Korea. Kim Jong-un? Yeah. The kid? Yeah.

• 2:25:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Because his dad was even more bonkers. So what do I think? I think that you have to neutralize what's going on there in terms of nuclear capability.

• 2:25:31Patrick Bet-David?

  What if Israel doesn't listen? What if Israel says, "We're gonna do it anyways"?

• 2:25:36Speaker 05

  Without Trump, without Trump's approval, and after a week after they were trying to go behind his back, to push him to go and fight with Iran?

• 2:25:44Patrick Bet-David?

  What if they don't listen?

• 2:25:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, why would they have to listen? What do you mean? I want to hear this. I'll tell you.

• 2:25:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Hang on a second. I actually agree. But go ahead. What if Israel's like, dude? We're gonna attack.

• 2:25:58Tom Ellsworth?

  There's half of our government will be very happy about that. More than half. The hawks. And the other half of our government will be, you know, gritting its teeth and hoping that it's a surgical destruction of it and everybody else stands down.

• 2:26:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, thoughts?

• 2:26:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Listen.

• 2:26:16Patrick Bet-David?

  What is this, by the way, you put up here?

• 2:26:19Tom Ellsworth?

  This is a senior Hamas official basically saying that they're, this is why they advocate for the war, because they played down the significance of the casualties in Gaza. He says, you know, there's been, our women's wombs will produce many more babies. Fifty thousand or fifty thousand people were born in Gaza during the war, just like the number of casualties. Uh, thanks to the war, Westerners convert to Islam. U.S. students support Palestine liberation from the river to the sea. Useful idiots. So, back to the initial question about the Iran, why would they listen? I don't think we fully understand in America. There's a big difference between the Midwest and the Middle East. In the Middle East, unfortunately, the reality of life there, in many cases, it's kill or be killed. It's eat or be eaten.

• 2:27:03Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a totally different world of what's going on in the Middle East. It's so funny, I never saw any protests on any college campuses when hundreds of thousands of not millions of people were dead in Syria, in Yemen, in Sudan to this day. Nothing, zero, zero protests, zero. But when Israel gets attacked and they try to basically eliminate Hamas, it's a genocide outside. We all know what's happening. It's been fooled. And the smartest people at the nicest college campuses on the world have been fooled. So, as far as your exact question about why would Israel listen? I think they will listen, listen, listen, listen, up to the point where they're like, we can't listen anymore because they're a week away from a bomb?

• 2:27:48Tom Ellsworth?

  And it's us or them? By the way, here's a little fun question. Do you think Israel has a nuke right now, today? Of course. Do you think they have one? Of course I do. Okay. Of course I do. So, okay, so if of course they have it, if they're so interested in doing genocide. Why don't they do it?

• 2:28:07Speaker 05

  Because if Israel launches a nuclear weapon, Adam, it would be at anybody.

• 2:28:12Tom Ellsworth?

  What do you mean?

• 2:28:13Speaker 05

  Who's just gonna, everybody has nukes.

• 2:28:15Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, not everybody has nukes.

• 2:28:17Speaker 05

  The majority, the major, like us or China.

• 2:28:20Tom Ellsworth?

  What?

• 2:28:20Speaker 05

  If Israel, what are you trying to say?

• 2:28:21Tom Ellsworth?

  You're saying if Israel nuked Iran.

• 2:28:24Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:28:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Or nuked Gaza.

• 2:28:25Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 2:28:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Iran doesn't have a weapon.

• 2:28:28Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 2:28:28Tom Ellsworth?

  The Gazans have missiles. They could do this, but they have no interest in this.

• 2:28:33Speaker 05

  Well, they know that.

• 2:28:34Tom Ellsworth?

  The whole conversation about.

• 2:28:35Speaker 05

  It would not be good if Israel.

• 2:28:36Tom Ellsworth?

  But, but nobody wants that. But when you say everyone has nukes, no, nobody in the Middle East has nukes. Only Pakistan. And they're more concerned about India. Believe that. So when you say, well, everybody has it, no, they don't.

• 2:28:48Speaker 05

  The majority of the major nations.

• 2:28:49Tom Ellsworth?

  But if Israel was interested in using it, if they had nukes, they would do it. What's the whole conversation about, um, you know, if Israel puts their guns down, uh, if the militants put their guns down, there'll be peace. If Israel puts their weapons down, there'll be a slaughter. Do you know the conversation that Joe Rogan had with Tim Kennedy?

• 2:29:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:29:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you have, do you know that? Have you ever seen this clip? Can we play this? I fully believe in this.

• 2:29:12Speaker 03

  Do you think, I'm Israel, you're the Palestinians in Gaza. If every one, every one of the people in Gaza laid down the arms and stopped attacking, what would I, Israel, do to you? Nothing. They've tried it five different times. They've literally like, stop attacking. Israel has never, not one time in history, initiated any conflict. Every single one of those things that you're pointing to is a retaliatory attack by a terrorist organization. What do you think?

• 2:29:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I agree with that. If, if, if the, uh.

• 2:30:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, where are you going? Where are you going right now? You're saying what? You're saying if Israel has nuclear warheads, I think both Israel and Iran have them.

• 2:30:09Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think Iran has them yet.

• 2:30:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I think they have them.

• 2:30:11Tom Ellsworth?

  You want to know why I don't think they have them?

• 2:30:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me.

• 2:30:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Because they would use them.

• 2:30:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Straight up.

• 2:30:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Then it'd be the end of everybody.

• 2:30:17Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I don't think so. Does New, does North Korea have nuclear weapons?

• 2:30:20Tom Ellsworth?

  They do.

• 2:30:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so how come they haven't used it?

• 2:30:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Because, because what country is constantly shouting death to fill in the blanks?

• 2:30:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Two countries have said death to America. It's US, it's, uh, North Korea and it's Iran. But how come he hasn't used it yet?

• 2:30:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Because North Korea.

• 2:30:33Patrick Bet-David?

  But this is kinda where I'm going with this. You said something. I wanna tighten it up and we gotta wrap it up because we gotta move on.

• 2:30:38Tom Ellsworth?

  I.

• 2:30:38Patrick Bet-David?

  If, if you were gonna get to a point, I'm gonna just say my point on this thing here, on what question I ask.

• 2:30:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:30:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I said.

• 2:30:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I said, why would they listen?

• 2:30:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Why would they listen?

• 2:30:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, because at some point, you either have individual autonomy as a country or you don't. This whole conversation of Israel controls America, really? That, that, that seems completely farfetched to me. I thought that Andrew Schultz made a great point, that if some country controls another country, it'd be the country with the greatest GDP and the greatest military and the greatest economy in the world, not a tiny little country in the Middle East that's controlling the other country. It would seem that Israel is the bagman for the United States, not the other way around. So if Israel, any country that has to listen to another country in order to survive, isn't a country at all. So I, I think that they will listen, like I will listen to you as my boss, as my CO, as my mentor, but I'll live my life.

• 2:31:28Speaker 05

  I think Israel has a huge influence on America.

• 2:31:32Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I didn't say that. Question is, do you think Israel controls Trump?

• 2:31:37Speaker 05

  No.

• 2:31:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 2:31:38Speaker 05

  I don't, I don't think, I don't think Israel controls Trump.

• 2:31:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think Israel controls America today?

• 2:31:43Speaker 05

  I don't think it controls America. No, I think it has a major influence.

• 2:31:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Sure, but so does China. So do, so do, so do a lot of different people.

• 2:31:49Speaker 05

  I don't think, I don't think anybody controls.

• 2:31:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Who has more influence over America, China or Israel?

• 2:31:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Think about the amount of money they're putting in schools, universities. Who has more influence? The amount of land China's buying, the amount of people they're buying, the amount of, who has more influence in US? China or Israel? What do you think?

• 2:32:08Tom Ellsworth?

  If you're gonna talk about trade in

• 2:32:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I wanna, I wanna see what he's gonna say. I wanna see what Vinny's gonna say.

• 2:32:12Speaker 05

  Hmm. But China has to register as a foreign agent, don't they? They have to. Israel doesn't.

• 2:32:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Sure, yeah. But, but to me, and the reason they did that is because they wanted people to go back to, like, imagine right now, uh, uh, we get close to Trump, and President Trump allows Syria to be a nation. And the first thing they're gonna do is they're gonna reach out to all the famous Assyrians around the world, and then they say, Patrick, uh, Vinny, why don't you guys come to Syria, buy land, buy some home, buy, do something here? What are we gonna do? What are you gonna do? If the president allows you to have a passport to go and be a, what do they call it when you're a dual citizen? Here in Assyria, would you take it?

• 2:32:50Speaker 05

  To have dual citizenship to go here?

• 2:32:52Patrick Bet-David?

  For here in Assyria. Assyria got a land back, would you take it?

• 2:32:54Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:32:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 2:32:55Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 2:32:55Patrick Bet-David?

  But, Shmim Umaru. That's, they're Jews, they're proud, they're gonna take them. But this is the part where I'm going. Let me tell you where I'm at, which my position's a little bit weird. He goes to the Middle East, doesn't go meet with who?

• 2:33:07Speaker 05

  Bibi Netanyahu.

• 2:33:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. And he meets with everybody else. So one hour flight, two hour flight, doesn't meet with them. Okay, no problem. And, well, it's not a big deal, it wasn't their meeting, and da-da-da-da-da, no problem.

• 2:33:21Patrick Bet-David?

  If Trump publicly says, "Don't attack", and Israel attacks, there's a part of me that is okay with that. Not likes that, is okay with that, because we didn't say attack. So now, if you go, you're on an island on your own. Don't call me now. That's not a fight I wanted to be a part of. It's a fight that you chose to be a part of. Make sense? Guys, how many times in school would they come up to you and they said, "There's a fight after school, come with us"?

• 2:33:50Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 2:33:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm like, "Bro, you hooked up with his sister. I'm not, what are you doing? Like, what are you doing? You started this bullshit. I'm not coming participating in this." He's like, "No, here's what happened. Okay, let's go. What's gonna be happening", right? And it's a, it's a different approach to defend your friends versus not defending your friends. In a case like this, the guy is saying, "Don't start the fight", then he says it publicly to everybody, "Don't start the fight", and then if you wanna start the fight, guess what? Start the fight. I'm just not there. If you win or lose, it's your fight. Don't get me involved. But I wanna publicly make sure Iran knows, we don't want a war, right? We don't want a war. So if Bibi wants to own this thing here and be his thing, go ahead, Bibi, but the world knows, this is not the US supporting your attack. This is your attack.

• 2:34:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Your attack alone. That you're making a decision of. Go ahead. Do your thing.

• 2:34:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Can I flip it on you?

• 2:34:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Sure.

• 2:34:42Tom Ellsworth?

  How much longer are you or the proud Persian Iranian people willing to just see the Islamic ayatollahs run your country?

• 2:34:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you want, like, do you want to go your entire life never being able to go back to Iran? Serious question. Because when they're running that country and they have that mind frame, you're never gonna go back. Your kids are never gonna go back. But my point is this, it needs to come to an end at some point.

• 2:35:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Those are two different conversations.

• 2:35:11Tom Ellsworth?

  But I think it's one, I think it's two different parts of the same conversation. So of whatever's going on with this regime, at some point needs to stop.

• 2:35:19Speaker 05

  Is there a different way of doing it instead of bombing them and which is going to turn into a full-on war that say what you want, we don't, we don't want it, we're going to have to get involved. We're gonna have to, especially if it escalates to Israel just against Iran.

• 2:35:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Not under Trump.

• 2:35:35Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 2:35:36Speaker 05

  You don't think so?

• 2:35:37Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't.

• 2:35:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Not under Trump.

• 2:35:38Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't, I'm not, I'm not supporting any US troops being on the ground at all.

• 2:35:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Not under Trump. Under any other president, under Nikki Haley, 100%. Under anybody else, not under Trump. But the other part to say what he's saying, okay? Sometimes there's a guy that everybody wants to take out.

• 2:35:59Patrick Bet-David?

  But you don't want to fight him for many different reasons. But if somebody wants to go fight him and take him out, and you think you can do it, go at it. Just don't involve us. If Israel thinks independently they can go do it, go ahead, do your thing. Don't call for help. Because Israel always says, "We don't ever ask him for help. We don't, no, no, no." Of course, we've given some money to them. Not as much as we've given to Ukraine, not as much as we've given to other places. But we've given money and every time they give the number that it's accrued and compound, if it wasn't today's money, it's this. I get it. We've given way more money to Afghanistan. We've given many more money to the war on, what was it, the, the, the three trillion dollars we spent, the eight trillion dollars we spent on.

• 2:36:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Iraq, Afghanistan, the war on drugs, we're funding wars everywhere.

• 2:36:41Patrick Bet-David?

  All that bullshit, weapons of mass destruction BS, this is not the weapons of mass destruction. This is a very different thing. So anyways, we'll see what happened there. Kang, uh, it's one of the longest podcasts we've done on Home Team. A lot of topics we covered. And a big part of it is because next week, we may not do any Home Team podcast because we may not be here. So we're gonna, Rob, we're gonna try to figure out to be able to do one at least. While we're out, it's gonna be, uh, what do you call it? Like, uh, the way we do it where it's like a, uh, Zoom type. But I'm sure there's a lot of things that's gonna happen between now and next week where we may have to do an emergency podcast. Stay tuned for that. We will keep you guys posted in the interim. If you haven't yet registered for this, How to Be a Killer in Business, but I'm killing your marriage. I'm gonna talk about a bunch of different things. Go to VTwebinar.com, VTwebinar.com.

• 2:37:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Register and tomorrow, the third episode of Her Take goes live at 11 o'clock on Her Take YouTube channel. We'll see you guys there. Have a great weekend, everybody. God bless. Bye bye, bye bye.

• 2:37:40Speaker 05

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