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This week, the crew sits down to talk about everything from new Apple AirTags to TikTok now being partially owned by the U. S government. Along the way they throw in some talk about the weather and Khaby Lame before wrapping it all up with a fun game that Andrew came up with! It's a long one but we hope you enjoy! Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Links: PR Newswire - Khaby Lame press release: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/rich-sparkle-holdings-closes-acquisition-of-tiktok-icon-khaby-lames-core-company-302658017.html Verge - TikTok banning words: https://www.theverge.com/news/868362/tiktok-epstein-ban-hoax-rumor-not-true-stop-it Verge - The TikTok deal is done: https://www.theverge.com/tech/866437/tiktok-usds-bytedance-sale-oracle-mgx Verge - Samsung Trifold pricing: https://www.theverge.com/news/868190/samsung-galaxy-z-trifold-us-price-release-date-availability Apple - New AirTag: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/01/apple-introduces-new-airtag-with-expanded-range-and-improved-findability/ TechCrunch - TikTok: https://techcrunch.com/2026/01/23/tiktok-users-freak-out-over-apps-immigration-status-collection-heres-what-it-means/ Music provided by: Epidemic Sound Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Waveform Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waveformpodcast/?hl=en Waveform TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Hosts: Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin Mariah: https://www.instagram.com/totallynotabusinessacc Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Intro/Outro music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Andrew Manganelli?

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• 1:18Speaker 01

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• 1:21David Imel?

  You could make me do anything.

• 1:24Andrew Manganelli?

  For $900 million.

• 1:25David Imel?

  I would do anything for $975 million.

• 1:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, what is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marques.

• 1:38Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm Andrew.

• 1:38David Imel?

  And I'm David.

• 1:39Speaker 01

  And it's January still, but that doesn't mean there's no news. There is some tech stuff happening. Today, we've got a huge Apple announcement to talk about. Samsung Trifold's price got unveiled, and we have some thoughts. We also had a US TikTok get off to a rough start, and we're going to wrap it up with a fun game. But first.

• 1:59Andrew Manganelli?

  Which one do you want to do first? Actually.

• 2:02Speaker 01

  Do you want to hear me rant about Khaby Lame getting acquired?

• 2:07Andrew Manganelli?

  Yes.

• 2:07Speaker 01

  Or whether YouTube?

• 2:10Andrew Manganelli?

  I want whether.

• 2:10Speaker 01

  The genre. Whether YouTube?

• 2:12David Imel?

  Whether YouTube what?

• 2:13Andrew Manganelli?

  Whether YouTube.

• 2:14Speaker 01

  The genre that is whether YouTube.

• 2:16Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh. I want whether YouTube.

• 2:18Speaker 01

  I have takes. Okay, let's talk about whether YouTube. I think, basically, my take on whether YouTube. Now, I'm hearing what you're saying. I think that weather YouTube is tech YouTube. It is such a perfect, I mean, there's lots of, um.

• 2:34Andrew Manganelli?

  Wait, can you explain?

• 2:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Weather YouTube, so as you may or may not have heard, we live in the northeast US and there's been a bunch of storms here recently. Blizzards, in fact, snowstorms, which get really, really hype on social media. And if you engage with enough of these posts, your whole feed just becomes consumed with, uh, weather posts.

• 2:53Andrew Manganelli?

  How would you know this, Marquez?

• 2:54Speaker 01

  Well, cuz I'm one of those.

• 2:55Andrew Manganelli?

  The last episode we recorded, if Marquez wasn't talking, he was looking at weather stuff on Twitter.

• 2:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was actually insane. And so basically what happens is this, like this winter storm Fern, for example, that we just had, was this Super Bowl event where I got to witness all of the parts of weather, uh, YouTube, weather, social media, meteorologists, I'll put it that way, on social media. And it is, there are so many parallels with tech YouTube. I'm sure this is true about lots of other genres, but here's how it goes, right? There's a bunch of the big channels, right? They are feasting. They are putting out two videos a day, talking about the different models and the different projections, and how much snow you're gonna get. And if you watch these videos, they're like 10 minutes long, they're all neatly formatted, and then they just go through and they're like, if you live in Wichita, if you live in Ohio Valley,

• 3:43Speaker 01

  if you live in northeast, an only five quarter, they name every single city as fast as they can so that people who are watching feel like they're a part of it. They're really good at this. They go over the map, they go over the projections, how much snow you could or could not get. And since it was a big storm, people were watching these videos for updates on the models to see how much snow they're about to get, and it was a lot. That's just like a Samsung event, an Apple event, where it's the Super Bowl for that genre. They all descend upon the place, they all talk about it. Everyone's thinking about, maybe I should get this one, maybe I shouldn't? And the big players are all doing their thing, like they always do, and talking about it. Then there are the like smaller slash newer or lesser known channels that are all doing the same thing, but because they're a smaller channels, they need to find angles

• 4:28Speaker 01

  to be unique in their coverage of the storm. Even though they're all covering the same storm, you will hear them say things like, oh, you know, this, I'm going to be more responsible than the big channels and tell you like, you're probably not going to get that much snow. And they like to, they like to talk about something that they found that's not in the other channels coverage because they need an angle in that way. In the same way that we see the same thing when we make a video about like a big phone and then a week later, there's a bunch of coverage about, yeah, but the big guys don't tell you these things. And then you get the same sort of stuff in tech YouTube.

• 5:01Andrew Manganelli?

  Really quick. I like auto started my car the other day and when my phone is not plugged in, it defaults to the radio. And as I sit in my car, it's just the radio host talking to their local radio meteorologist. And she's like, so what's the deal with this storm? Everyone's talking about it, blah, blah. And the meteorologist goes like, you gotta be careful with social media hype and online. Everyone wants to like scare you and scare tactics and that's going to be huge. And like, you know, they're just doing it all for a bunch of views and stuff. And like us meteorologists, we know what's going on. And she's like, oh, so what can we really expect? It's good to know that. And he's like, it's going to be a lot. We're going to be, and just like immediately says everything, all the social media people are. And I was like, there was no point of this story at all.

• 5:45Speaker 01

  It is, the microcosm is so real. There's also on weather YouTube, there's the traditional channels. There's the weather.com's and the AccuWeathers and the NBC News weather report on YouTube, where they will talk about it as well, but they'll give like a much more high level, less nuanced, less personal version of it. And they just kind of move on.

• 6:05Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 6:05Speaker 01

  Uh, kind of like you might expect to see a Wall Street Journal video or a CNN video about the new phone, which is not bad. It's just a different style. And that's the same thing that happens on weather YouTube. And then it all came together for me with this next storm, because as you may or may not have heard, we're expecting another winter event.

• 6:22Andrew Manganelli?

  My car is already encased in ice. I cannot get it out. I can't do this again.

• 6:27Speaker 01

  There are a lot of people in that, in that position right now and are thinking a lot about, gosh, if we get more snow, this could be really, really bad. This new storm is the perfect litmus test for where you are on the spectrum of, of weather YouTube, because the storm. According to current models, we're recording this on Wednesday, it's not expected to be a big storm. It's going to be a high drop in pressure off of the coast. And it will probably snow in some amount in like the Virginia and Carolina area.

• 6:55Andrew Manganelli?

  Wow, did big weather tell you to say that?

• 6:57Speaker 01

  Well, this is just like what we see from the models because that's all we have. This is what meteorologists do. They read and adjust the models and report on what they see. And if you go to weather.com in all caps in the top of the site, it's like bomb cyclone. Like this is a major weather event. Stay with us. You need to know the updates. If you read the map or any of the data, it's like way offshore and like we might get a little bit. And the tiny, tiny probability that the storm actually does like slam into New York City and cause major problems is small. But if you only pay attention to the clickbaity ones, you would think this is going to be a huge storm.

• 7:35David Imel?

  So what you're saying is traditional media also sensationalizes things.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  Yes, very much so. And I'm watching the weather YouTubers still this week and they are saying a lot of, they're using the words like this could be a major event. This might be, but it seems like it's probably not going to be. And now I'm watching them all report on the same data, the same models, just like we all report on the same tech, but have very different angles on it. It's fascinating to watch.

• 8:00David Imel?

  Interesting.

• 8:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:01Andrew Manganelli?

  I have one question, maybe two questions.

• 8:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:05Andrew Manganelli?

  First of all, being a weather YouTuber must be exhausting because one you like, we have our events that happen at the same time every year. They basically are like sitting there hoping for a catastrophic event.

• 8:19Speaker 01

  It's interesting.

• 8:19Andrew Manganelli?

  Like that's gotta be painful to have to do all the time.

• 8:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. And it's also, it unfolds very differently. Like a tech event, a launch event is like an hour or two on stage. And then like the big frenzy of covering what happened on stage. A weather event is like a slow system that moves across the country where people want updates as it's going for days in a row at a time. They're putting out two videos a day for five days straight and live streaming for the entire working day. And making videos while they're live streaming, it's insane. There, it does seem exhausting, but they are. Trying to keep people informed. That's the angle. Keep as many people informed as possible.

• 8:55Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 8:55Speaker 03

  They do have their busy season because we also have like monsoon season, like hurricane season, winter. My question for you was, does anyone use the weather app on Android or iOS?

• 9:07Andrew Manganelli?

  Like just the reggae?

• 9:09Speaker 03

  Like weather.com?

• 9:10Speaker 01

  No.

• 9:10Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh.

• 9:11Speaker 01

  This has become my.

• 9:13Andrew Manganelli?

  Wait, well, this is basically my next question. So you've segued into it. You're using the like default Android?

• 9:18Speaker 03

  No, no, no, like the weather channel.

• 9:21Speaker 01

  Weather.com. Yeah.

• 9:22David Imel?

  No, no.

• 9:24Speaker 01

  The UX is horrible on those websites. I've not really found one that's good. Like all the dedicated apps. Or just like even the built in app is a much better UX than.

• 9:34Andrew Manganelli?

  Well.

• 9:34Speaker 01

  I don't know if the data is less accurate. That's the.

• 9:36Andrew Manganelli?

  That's what I want to yell about for a minute. What do you want to?

• 9:39Speaker 03

  Oh, I just wanted to ask, did anyone else's weather channel app turn blood red this week? As soon as I came home from work the other day before the storm, everything, all the text and UI turned red and it was like, it's coming.

• 9:53Speaker 01

  Please come back to this app over and over.

• 9:55Speaker 03

  Drama alert. It's like, please keep checking the app.

• 9:58Andrew Manganelli?

  That's awesome.

• 9:59Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 9:59Andrew Manganelli?

  Mine was gonna be about, I use the default pixel weather app and it looks beautiful.

• 10:04Speaker 01

  Beautiful.

• 10:05Andrew Manganelli?

  But I'm just sitting here, I think it was like Friday night, I looked at what our snow accumulation was supposed to be on Sunday when it was hit and said 15 inches. It's like, that's a lot of snow. Then Saturday it just decides to go to like one inch. And then Sunday morning, there's already three inches of snow outside and it's like, you're gonna get like one inch today. And then we got the like 15 it originally said, which is awful. And then I'm like, I must be just maybe reading this at the wrong times. But then Ben on nine to five Google wrote something about how he tested all like seven different apps. And the Google weather app was like just nowhere near what any of the other ones were and was so bad.

• 10:42Speaker 01

  Does it say where it gets its data from? Cause I think.

• 10:44Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm sure somewhere.

• 10:45Speaker 01

  The Apple one says it gets it from like AccuWeather or something. Okay. Yeah. So this is my, this is what I've observed over the years. And I think the weather app ecosystem is super precarious for some reason. Most weather apps are super ugly. I've fully on board.

• 11:00Andrew Manganelli?

  I was on Weather Underground and it's.

• 11:01David Imel?

  Horrible.

• 11:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, most like 95% of them, and trust me, there's a lot of them, are super, super ugly. There's a couple really pretty ones. Usually they're the stock apps, like the Google Weather app and the Apple Weather app are like really nice looking.

• 11:14David Imel?

  Yeah, the Frog and the Google one.

• 11:15Speaker 01

  Unfortunately, are not pulling the best data. And I don't know why that's such a like hard thing for them to do, because the one app that I trust that I think both looks good and lets you pick between good, accurate data sources is Carrot Weather. It's only on iPhone, unfortunately. Um, but I use AccuWeather data in Carrot Weather. And it's very accurate and works really well. And I can switch between sources and check if there's like discrepancies among the models. It's a very nerdy thing to do, but you can, if there's a big storm coming, see what's, what's happening there. And, uh, yeah, you, I was finding that the Apple Weather app was saying that we're gonna get, uh, it was telling me at my house, it would be like 15 to 18 inches of snow. And then I was checking Carrot Weather and it was consistent.

• 11:58Speaker 01

  It was like, you're gonna get seven inches on Saturday, on Sunday, and like three inches on Monday. And that's exactly how much we got. And I was, I was impressed, but not shocked that the pretty weather apps were not the most accurate, sadly.

• 12:10David Imel?

  Yeah, that's usually how it is.

• 12:12Andrew Manganelli?

  I just want, yeah. I want recommendations for an Android weather app. That works. I swear every time I'm like,

• 12:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:19Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, I think, oh, Claire, the weather's gonna be this this weekend. She's like, that's not what mine says. And hers is always right, and I'm always wrong, no matter what.

• 12:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's tough. I've tried Overcast. I haven't been in that app in a little while, so I can't vouch for its accuracy, but it is good looking.

• 12:34David Imel?

  Maybe you should just make one, Andrew.

• 12:35Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, I'll just vibe code one up right here.

• 12:38David Imel?

  Either you could do it, according to Twitter, you can do it in an hour.

• 12:41Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm sure Twitter thinks that.

• 12:43Speaker 01

  So anyway, that's, that's my, my take on, on meteorology YouTube in January 2026.

• 12:50David Imel?

  All right.

• 12:50Speaker 01

  For those who are wondering.

• 12:51David Imel?

  I like that.

• 12:52Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, now give me the other take.

• 12:54Speaker 01

  The other take?

• 12:54Andrew Manganelli?

  The one I've been waiting for.

• 12:56Speaker 01

  The other take, so the, there's also a headline this week that you might've seen that the, you've probably seen him, the Tik, yeah, I think he's the most followed TikToker now of all time. Kabi Lame, right? He doesn't talk, so his videos are extremely universal. Anyone who speaks any language can watch them. Physical comedy, he does this, he does the pointing and the shrugging and all that, right? Um, there is a headline this week that essentially he'd sold his company for $900 million.

• 13:24Andrew Manganelli?

  More than Juan Soto.

• 13:25Speaker 01

  That's a lot.

• 13:26Andrew Manganelli?

  That's more than,

• 13:27Speaker 01

  That is a lot of money. You look into it, you dig deeper, you read the articles, it's more that he sold his image and likeness rights and the company that manages that stuff for $900 million of value. It's not a cash, it's not like he's getting paid $900 million, but he now has partial ownership of the company that manages all of those rights and that ownership is worth somehow $900 million.

• 13:57David Imel?

  Wait, so his partial ownership, they're valuing at 900 million?

• 14:00Speaker 01

  It seems like it.

• 14:01David Imel?

  That doesn't seem...

• 14:02Speaker 01

  It seems insane.

• 14:03David Imel?

  Correct.

• 14:03Andrew Manganelli?

  Are they gonna IPO Kabe?

• 14:06Speaker 01

  That's the question, okay. So my take is that seems ridiculous, which is not even that hot of a take, but the secondary take is maybe he kind of got played or scammed a little bit, if that's how this is going to go. Here's why I'll say that. We know that short form does not monetize super well. He starts on TikTok, he has an incredible following, obviously, but still, I think lifetime earnings are somewhere in the tens of millions of dollars, right? He has a YouTube channel, he's got social media presence everywhere, he'll do the Google Pixel event, so we've seen him around doing stuff, but short form, the content itself doesn't monetize super well. So the article says that they're going to manage his image rights, they're going to

• 14:48Speaker 01

  essentially have the right to clone him in AI and like have him do a whole bunch of things endlessly online, which I worry about. That seems insane, but the fatigue may or may not play in. They plan, they say in the articles, to make $400 million per year from his image and likeness.

• 15:11David Imel?

  That seems incorrect.

• 15:13Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, it's like one of those things where, I don't know him too well, but he doesn't talk, right? And he just does a lot of gestures. That seems like something really easy to AI generate.

• 15:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:23Andrew Manganelli?

  But the last thing I would want is a bunch of, like, we've worked with different agencies and stuff, and we say no to so many. Imagine if an agency just had a program...

• 15:37Andrew Manganelli?

  And they could just say yes to literally every deal that comes in and just throw in the AI generator. And I could see them making a ton of money off that until everyone's exhausted of it because it gets pumped out.

• 15:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:47Andrew Manganelli?

  Five thousand times makes $400 million one year and then nobody ever wants to see it.

• 15:52Speaker 01

  I misquoted the, the, a press release says annual live commerce sales could reach $4 billion.

• 16:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, I don't believe that.

• 16:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't. It says it. It says $4 billion. Yes, he has hundreds of millions of followers.

• 16:07Andrew Manganelli?

  Annual?

• 16:07Speaker 01

  Annual.

• 16:07Andrew Manganelli?

  No, this is incorrect. We're allowed to say anything. How many companies make $4 billion a year?

• 16:13Speaker 03

  Did you guys see the company name? It sounds fake. Rich Sparkle Holdings.

• 16:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. Sparkle.

• 16:20Andrew Manganelli?

  What's?

• 16:20Speaker 01

  It's just an insane press release and I'm, I want to give them benefit of the doubt, but like the more I read about it, they're giving him, you know, all of these shares in Rich Sparkle Holdings that they're saying are going to be worth $975 million because they plan on monetizing his likeness and making $4 billion a year, something ridiculous like that. That just, none of it adds up.

• 16:40Andrew Manganelli?

  It's.

• 16:41Speaker 01

  And I don't know what to make of it. And it, I lean towards that somebody got scammed somewhere or is going to.

• 16:47Andrew Manganelli?

  I feel like both of them probably got scammed. Um, but part of it, I think this number is for the headline. I,

• 16:54Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 16:54Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm pretty sure, I'm not a hundred percent, maybe somebody can correct me, but when Kik was first launching and signing a bunch of people, we were seeing all these like, extreme signs, gigantic multimillion dollar deal, but it was similar of the fact of like, well, here's like 500,000 and here's shares and ownership stake with this evaluation, blah, blah, blah.

• 17:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:16Andrew Manganelli?

  Which makes this big old number for a headline. And then who knows if they ever make it that far.

• 17:21Speaker 01

  If they successfully generate $4 billion a year from authorizing the use of one person's face ID, voice ID, and behavioral models for the AI digital twin development, as they say, I, I will give them all the props.

• 17:35Andrew Manganelli?

  I would pay to see their like pitch deck for this.

• 17:38Speaker 01

  Would you pay $4 billion?

• 17:40Andrew Manganelli?

  That's that might be the only way they make four billion dollars.

• 17:43Speaker 01

  I'm Googling companies that make four billion dollars a year. Let's see if I can find a. Intel, Intel, not Intel, which is the 51st highest revenue by profit or by revenue in the United States. Or actually in the world, uh, makes 3.4 billion. So they're saying that he makes more profit. Not makes, is about to make with his sweet new deal. Yeah, more profit than one of the Fortune 51 or whatever.

• 18:14Andrew Manganelli?

  Wait, and are they?

• 18:16Speaker 01

  Fortune 551.

• 18:18Andrew Manganelli?

  This is all fake, so I don't know why I'm still asking questions about it.

• 18:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 18:23Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, wait, wait. His is 900 million, but they're saying they're gonna make 400 billion?

• 18:26Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 18:27Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, sorry.

• 18:27Speaker 01

  Four billion. Four billion. Yeah, let's be real.

• 18:30Andrew Manganelli?

  Four billion.

• 18:31Speaker 01

  That's a sweeter.

• 18:32Speaker 04

  That's the difference.

• 18:33Speaker 01

  Like Elon's almost a trillionaire, okay? Numbers are made up. Crazy. I, I am all for rooting for creators. Obviously, the creator economy is super new and. Get your back, gang. Yeah, it's a, it's very difficult to value these things, but this just seems insane. So I saw the headline and I saw a lot of people echoing the headline and I'm like, hmm, I don't know.

• 18:51Andrew Manganelli?

  He's, yeah. He's gotta be one of those guys that like, you realize is doing kind of, I don't know why I'm gonna compare him to Daft Punk, but like, you get super famous for doing a bunch of really well timed shrugs and he like clearly, I, that sounds dumb, but he's.

• 19:07Speaker 01

  What Daft Punk.

• 19:07Andrew Manganelli?

  He grew crazy, but like Daft Punk are super famous, but they have helmets that they get to go out in public. They're like, there are types of celebrity that you just kind of nail sometimes. So being able to be the guy who's just like, really funny, making gestures is awesome because it's not that much effort when you're physically on the video. And there's no language barrier. Like what a smart move.

• 19:31Speaker 01

  It's essentially the most successful React channel of all time.

• 19:34Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, Einstein bros are coming after him.

• 19:36Speaker 01

  On TikTok though, so.

• 19:38Andrew Manganelli?

  Is that what their name is?

• 19:38Speaker 01

  He's expanded though, so.

• 19:40Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't remember what the.

• 19:41Speaker 01

  The Fine Bros?

• 19:42Andrew Manganelli?

  Fine Bros.

• 19:43Speaker 01

  That was the, the throwback. React, yeah. Yeah, he starts on TikTok. He's got hundreds of millions of followers. He also, like we've seen, has branched out and done short form YouTube. He's done Instagram. He's done events, obviously. Yeah. Google thinks he's well known and trustworthy enough to be involved with the Pixel presentation. That's a revenue stream in some way, so. At least they're not worried about him saying anything controversial.

• 20:09Speaker 01

  So, uh, actually, I remember being backstage with him before he went on stage and he didn't say a word. We're very on brand.

• 20:16Speaker 03

  He's on brand.

• 20:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. So anyway, it is, it is a confusing headline and I have, I have nothing but confusing thoughts on it.

• 20:24Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm sure he's gonna make a ton of money no matter what, so.

• 20:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:27Andrew Manganelli?

  He'll be good. Uh, wait, can I, can I have another, if we're in rant mood right now?

• 20:33Speaker 01

  Okay, send it.

• 20:34David Imel?

  I'll figure out something to rant about.

• 20:37Andrew Manganelli?

  This is something that has been happening to me on my phone and I can't tell if it's recent or if it's always been like that, but I think it's a recent change. Okay, so I've realized in the last month or so, if you're using the, uh, search, Google search widget on Pixel, you're gonna try it on your OnePlus. And I wanna just get a picture of something, cuz I love finding pictures and putting it in like Slack or a text message. So I'm just gonna search Disc Golf, then you go to Google Images. At this point, any of these images I click, I can't just download the photo. You hold on to it, right? I have the chance to save to collection, share, which lets me copy a link to a Google Photos like link.

• 21:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:23Andrew Manganelli?

  Or Google Images link, and then I have all my apps that normally like can share in.

• 21:28Andrew Manganelli?

  And then other than that, it's search with image, Google Lens or Report. Even now, they have all these overlay things that I used to just take screenshots.

• 21:36Speaker 01

  But if you tap it, don't they go away?

• 21:39Andrew Manganelli?

  Nope.

• 21:39Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 21:41Andrew Manganelli?

  So can I not just download a picture in the Google search bar anymore? Does this, is it going to yours?

• 21:47Speaker 01

  It's gone.

• 21:48Andrew Manganelli?

  It used to be there, right? You have to go into a browser, Google, Google Images, and you can download from a browser, but I can't from.

• 21:57Speaker 01

  And shit if it.

• 21:59Andrew Manganelli?

  It's so stupid.

• 22:00Speaker 01

  They want you to, they want everyone to stay in the Google app, so when you send them the link, it just opens the Google app.

• 22:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, the download feature has been buried for a while, like it used to be layers deep, like multiple clicks. And I would usually take a screenshot because it was easier than trying to figure out how to download the image.

• 22:17Andrew Manganelli?

  I, we need to start a new segment just called. Hey Google, I hate you.

• 22:21David Imel?

  So I hit the button that says save to collections. I don't know.

• 22:24Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, wait, where does it go?

• 22:26David Imel?

  I went into the settings and I found that there, if you scroll down enough, is saves and collections, which apparently I have. They're trying to make the Google. I bet you have a bunch of different collections. They're trying to make that an entire OS that you just like stay in forever. I don't know when I saved the 5D Mark III or the Mac Pro. I don't know. Probably like 10 years ago. Uh, okay. And then can I download it? Is that? No. Nope.

• 22:50Andrew Manganelli?

  You can't download it from your collection?

• 22:51David Imel?

  Can't download it from my collection. You know? Yeah, that's weird. That is weird. It's called keeping you on the platform.

• 22:57Andrew Manganelli?

  Is that recent? You used to be able to download from that, right?

• 23:00Speaker 03

  I literally just downloaded a picture like the other day.

• 23:03David Imel?

  I, from inside of the Google app? I believe so.

• 23:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, like from like using the search bar.

• 23:09David Imel?

  If I do this in Chrome, is that?

• 23:10Andrew Manganelli?

  Cause that's how I search everything from the search bar. I think there might be a way to make it so the search bar always opens in a browser window.

• 23:17David Imel?

  Yeah, there is, but it's not the default.

• 23:18Andrew Manganelli?

  It's not the default, so I haven't changed it since this new phone.

• 23:21David Imel?

  That's what they do. They get enough people using it and addicted to it, and then they make it worse.

• 23:25Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, but it's hard to get addicted to it when it sucks so bad in the first place.

• 23:30David Imel?

  Well, you said you always search things through it, so.

• 23:32Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, oh, yeah. Okay, you're saying I got addicted when it worked.

• 23:36David Imel?

  You're already addicted.

• 23:36Andrew Manganelli?

  And then they're just like slowly destroying it.

• 23:39David Imel?

  Yeah, some engineer at Google was like, hmm, we can keep time in app up.

• 23:45Andrew Manganelli?

  My thought was the opposite of we're Google, we're focused so much on other things that we keep forgetting about all the basic functions of our apps and breaking them in the process.

• 23:54David Imel?

  They intentionally did not let you get rid of that widget on Android for a very long time. People were very annoyed at that for a very long time. I don't think the typical rules about Google management apply to search. Yeah. They are very. That's their whole.

• 24:06Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, but how many teams inside of search are? I'm saying less of more just this, the team that makes the download feature just forgot about it or got moved somewhere else.

• 24:16Speaker 03

  The download button.

• 24:17Andrew Manganelli?

  A room full of spider webs right now.

• 24:19David Imel?

  I mean, there's a reason like in the Reddit app, when you take a screenshot, it's like, hey, do you want to just share the share sheet? Share sheet? Oh, don't open a Reddit link, open a Reddit link. They're doing the same thing. Spotify practically what it is Spotify is wrapped when you try to take a screenshot of it. It's like, it's like that's use the built in. Yeah, please.

• 24:36Andrew Manganelli?

  It's just guaranteeing that at least half the people never click that link though. Cause even if any of you were to send me a tweet or a Tik Tok, if the preview of it doesn't show up, that I kind of know what's going to be in that link. I'm sorry, I'm not clicking.

• 24:50David Imel?

  That is true for you, but I think that normal people probably they, they don't want to keep searching through. How could I download this? How can I download this? Like if it pops up and it's like, share this link. They're like, okay. Definitely.

• 25:02Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, what I'm saying is on the receiving end, if I just get a no context text that just says, share dot photos, dot Google slash for like 10 characters.

• 25:12David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 25:13Andrew Manganelli?

  And no preview of what I'm not probably downloading.

• 25:16David Imel?

  Probably delete system 32.

• 25:18Speaker 01

  I'm about that screenshot life. I think, yeah, I would just screenshot.

• 25:20David Imel?

  People are very nervous about, about scams now. I understand.

• 25:23Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 25:25David Imel?

  That is a good rant, Andrew.

• 25:26Andrew Manganelli?

  Quality rant.

• 25:27Speaker 01

  David, what's your rant?

• 25:28David Imel?

  I don't know. I didn't really come up with them.

• 25:30Speaker 01

  What about?

• 25:31David Imel?

  Rants about the air tag.

• 25:32Andrew Manganelli?

  Wait, can we rant? Can we rant about how somehow none of us knew that BBK disbanded three years ago?

• 25:38David Imel?

  Yes. How, how were we unaware of this? I feel really stupid.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. What exactly?

• 25:44Andrew Manganelli?

  We should have known. It didn't change how we mentioned OnePlus last, but when that, that shout out to whoever, there was like one person on Reddit, one person on our comments that posted it. And I read it. I was like, no, that guy's just wrong. There's no way. And then I read it and it was like three years ago. It was like, wow.

• 26:01Speaker 01

  So now it's just Oppo and Vivo and those still have sub brands called OnePlus and real me, et cetera.

• 26:07David Imel?

  For people that don't know, there was a umbrella brand around Oppo, OnePlus and Vivo called BBK Electronics. For a very long time, um, apparently three years ago it disbanded. I did not know this. None of us knew this. I don't know why we didn't know this. Um, some random redditor did know this and told us we were wrong.

• 26:24Andrew Manganelli?

  I think those two are still probably under some sort of conglomerate or whatever.

• 26:28David Imel?

  Almost definitely. When they do these reorganizations, it's really just for optics. Like there are things happening like it's, it's sort of like how OnePlus for a very long time was like, we're not part of, we're not part of Oppo. We're not part of Oppo. Or, or how a Hassabla tries to really, really, really, really hard to pretend that they're not owned by DJI. And then when you send your Hassabla in for repair, it goes to the DJI facility.

• 26:51Speaker 01

  Or how when Google was like, we are actually part of Alphabet now. And you're like, what's Alphabet? And you're like, Google.

• 26:58David Imel?

  That's true.

• 26:59Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 26:59David Imel?

  That is true. It's all naming.

• 27:01Speaker 01

  It's all naming.

• 27:02David Imel?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 27:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, but shout out to you for, uh.

• 27:05David Imel?

  Shout out.

• 27:05Speaker 01

  Shout out to the guy that told us this.

• 27:07David Imel?

  Okay. Um.

• 27:09Speaker 01

  Big news.

• 27:10David Imel?

  A story, big news. Apple, you know, often has one of those weeks where it just releases a ton of press releases, one per day. It's a big week. It's huge. Usually big products, you know, new MacBook, new iPad. This week, we got another AirTag that looks the same. It's just updated. It doesn't look the same.

• 27:30Speaker 01

  Can I yell about this?

• 27:31David Imel?

  Yeah. It does not look the same.

• 27:34Speaker 01

  Wait, what's your yell?

• 27:35David Imel?

  The text is capital.

• 27:36Speaker 01

  Text is capitalized. I just want to yell real quick because when we were planning our schedule for last week, we had like, fully top of mind, Apple has something happening Monday morning. There's a meeting on Marques's calendar. We don't know what it is. And then we all hit you up after like, okay, Marques, what happened? As you were on your way into the office and you were like, new AirTag. And I was like, you gotta be kidding me.

• 27:56Andrew Manganelli?

  I, but like you were saying, they usually do around this time, like a week of updates.

• 28:00David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 28:01Andrew Manganelli?

  So I was like, AirTag, Monday? Perfect start. It's usually something small, maybe.

• 28:06David Imel?

  They did apparently update Final Cut Pro today.

• 28:07Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh.

• 28:08David Imel?

  With like three new features.

• 28:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, all the, the Creator Studio stuff is out now.

• 28:12David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 28:12Speaker 01

  And, uh, all the updates to things like Final Cut and Pages and Motion and all that, they're all out. Final Cut has a couple of new features.

• 28:19David Imel?

  Like a terrible new logo.

• 28:21Speaker 01

  Well, there's the logo for the Creator Studio version, which is horrible, which is purple.

• 28:26Andrew Manganelli?

  We didn't talk about that the one time.

• 28:27Speaker 01

  The Creator Studio logos.

• 28:29David Imel?

  To talk about this when we talked about Creator Studio, all of the icons are like indiscernible. They're just like bold colors with like a few lines.

• 28:37Speaker 01

  It's interesting because I kind of think that might work. You just associate a color with the app now. Like Final Cut's the purple one. In the same way that like you know, Word, Excel and PowerPoint are their certain colors. Like Excel's the green one. I just think it's a green thing.

• 28:52Andrew Manganelli?

  Photoshop is blue.

• 28:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:53Andrew Manganelli?

  Just click it.

• 28:54David Imel?

  You know, that's what they were thinking. I might've given Apple the benefit of the doubt with Liquid Glass, but considering they've just been proven to be wrong now, I don't know if I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt with this one.

• 29:04Andrew Manganelli?

  One.

• 29:05David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 29:05Andrew Manganelli?

  I finally updated my Mac and I actually really like Liquid Glass on it.

• 29:09David Imel?

  Wow.

• 29:09Andrew Manganelli?

  I hate to say that out loud.

• 29:10David Imel?

  On the desktop.

• 29:11Andrew Manganelli?

  On the desktop. I can't imagine on a phone, but. I'm correct in saying that Creator Studio is all the new logos, but old are still all the old logos. So you technically could have two different Final Cut logos on your computer.

• 29:25Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 29:26Andrew Manganelli?

  That's.

• 29:27Speaker 01

  It would be silly of you to buy both, but yes.

• 29:29Andrew Manganelli?

  I guess you can only ever have the purple ones if you have all of them. So it'd make no sense not to have Which one would it? All of them match.

• 29:36Speaker 01

  You open, it's both. So if I have Final Cut, because I already bought Legacy Final Cut, I have the old Final Cut logo and I spent $400 on it. There's no reason for me to also buy the new thing. But if I ever do, then I also have Final Cut Pro for, I forget the exact name, but I literally have a purple Final Cut for Creator Studio, yeah, Studio Edition.

• 29:55Andrew Manganelli?

  And then if you like do spotlight search and open up Final Cut, which one opens?

• 29:59Speaker 01

  Uh, they'll show both and you gotta pick the one that you want.

• 30:02David Imel?

  I mean, that's the same. It's the same with like Lightroom and Lightroom Classic. It's very annoying.

• 30:05Andrew Manganelli?

  I know, and it's annoying.

• 30:06David Imel?

  It's annoying. Yeah. Did they, so the features that they added today, were those only to the Creator Studio version?

• 30:13Speaker 01

  No, everything, both. Yeah.

• 30:15David Imel?

  Because I know they're doing that for like numbers on pages for some reason.

• 30:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:18David Imel?

  The apps that everybody uses.

• 30:20Speaker 01

  The way it was framed to me was the, the productivity apps do have the split between the AI content and creative stuff and the traditional version. The creative apps, the final cuts and motions and stuff are the same with either version.

• 30:32David Imel?

  Interesting.

• 30:32Speaker 01

  And if you want to get the bundle, obviously you get everything. But like, why would you get Final Cut and not want all the stuff? So thankfully, that, this is, this is to Apple's credit. If I spent the $400 or whatever it was 10, 15 years ago on Final Cut Pro, I'm still getting all of the features.

• 30:46David Imel?

  Right.

• 30:47Speaker 01

  So that's good.

• 30:47David Imel?

  That's good.

• 30:48Andrew Manganelli?

  What if you spent the $29 on an AirTag?

• 30:51Speaker 01

  Well, then you're getting a new speaker, baby. A brand new, can I play the sound for you guys?

• 30:55David Imel?

  Yes, do it.

• 30:56Speaker 01

  What does it used to be in C and now it's in G or something?

• 30:59David Imel?

  I'll break it down for you.

• 31:00Andrew Manganelli?

  We need Charlie Booth here.

• 31:01Speaker 01

  The new second generation AirTag has a slightly longer precision finding range, slightly better Bluetooth chip.

• 31:08David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 31:09Speaker 01

  And it's now a 1.8 decibel louder speaker, I believe. And it changed the note from an F

• 31:16David Imel?

  F.

• 31:17Speaker 01

  To a G.

• 31:18David Imel?

  To a G.

• 31:19Speaker 01

  Observe.

• 31:20David Imel?

  Oh, you have both. You recorded both?

• 31:23Speaker 01

  That's the old one.

• 31:25David Imel?

  Correct.

• 31:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:27David Imel?

  Which is nothing like this new one.

• 31:34David Imel?

  Hmm.

• 31:35Speaker 01

  That is better.

• 31:36Andrew Manganelli?

  That's higher.

• 31:37Speaker 01

  That is better. A little more piercing. Your dogs are gonna freak the hell out. I know you guys are gonna say, "Ooh, innovation is dead. This is the same thing." But like, this is so much better. This is more piercing. It's going to carry further. It's gonna be able, you can find this further away, the ladder. This is, this is why it's the news of the year, honestly, to me. Yeah. I know we were thinking OLED MacBook Pro and like them killing like other products in the folding iPhone, but this, this is what we were waiting for.

• 32:04Andrew Manganelli?

  Totally worth a meeting.

• 32:06Speaker 01

  They didn't change the price. They give us all of this for the same price?

• 32:09Andrew Manganelli?

  When I'm stealing people's purses now, and I steal a purse that has capital letters on there, I'm like, "Give it right back. You're gonna find me way too fast."

• 32:19Andrew Manganelli?

  Lowercase, all mine.

• 32:20Speaker 01

  Oh, you got the new one? Oh my god, yes.

• 32:22Andrew Manganelli?

  I want that F# following.

• 32:24Speaker 01

  Oh, I thought you were gonna say if you stole it and it was the old one, you're like, "Ah, you must be poor. You didn't buy it." Um, so why would I steal your purse anyway? Yeah, it's, it's a huge change, you know? You can find it up to 50% further away. That's the difference between being able to find someone inside a movie theater and outside a movie theater. You know? Maybe.

• 32:43Andrew Manganelli?

  Sometimes I wish Apple did video events for all their products, because I would love to see how much they hyped this up onstage.

• 32:50Speaker 01

  I feel like audio listeners think I'm serious, because I can't see my face. And it's, I just want to be clear, all of this is sarcasm. But it is, this is the, this is the press release from Apple. This is the new thing.

• 33:00Andrew Manganelli?

  I can't believe we didn't get anything else.

• 33:01Speaker 04

  I'm waiting for a card-shaped one.

• 33:04Speaker 01

  That's what, that's what I was, that's what I was saying. Like, Ridge has made a card-shaped one, and everybody else is making different shaped ones for different places. Like, the card one in the wallet is the obvious thing.

• 33:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 33:12Speaker 01

  And they just made a new AirTag with like slightly better specs or whatever, honestly. But why are they not trying anything? Like, AirTags clearly are working well enough for them to continue to update it. Why not expand a little bit?

• 33:24Speaker 03

  Make it flat.

• 33:25Speaker 01

  Make it flat?

• 33:26Speaker 03

  I want it small.

• 33:27Speaker 01

  But yeah, until then, you'll have to go to Ridge for that, I guess. It's kinda crazy, like, if you go to the Apple website, it's nowhere on the front page. You have to go to the accessories section.

• 33:35Andrew Manganelli?

  Is that crazy? Is that crazy?

• 33:38Speaker 01

  I don't know, I feel like-

• 33:39Andrew Manganelli?

  I kinda actually think it is. I think AirTags are insanely popular.

• 33:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:43Andrew Manganelli?

  But front page of Apple?

• 33:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, but there's a, there are a lot of people who will just buy the new thing. Wait, this is kind of a bar.

• 33:50Andrew Manganelli?

  What was lost is now sound?

• 33:52Speaker 01

  I mean, they always have good taglines. That's kind of a bar. AirTag lines. Yeah.

• 33:56Andrew Manganelli?

  Ha.

• 33:57Speaker 01

  I don't know, it just says "new."

• 34:02David Imel?

  Yeah. You are able to now find it with your Apple Watch Precision Finding thing on the Apple Watch Series 9 and later, and Apple Watch Ultra 2 and later. So, you know, your wrist can vibrate when you get close to something.

• 34:15Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, it's like hot and cold. Hotter, colder.

• 34:20David Imel?

  Find my friends.

• 34:22David Imel?

  Anyway.

• 34:23Andrew Manganelli?

  Just at the bar and like the crowd and you're like, "Yeah, got him."

• 34:27David Imel?

  Yeah, the, I will say the, um, the wallet tag would have been a good idea for them. I don't know why they haven't done that yet.

• 34:37Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, I know, because you just use the MagSafe wallet, so it's always on your phone anyway, so you would never lose it.

• 34:42David Imel?

  That's, what if it, what if the magnet pops it off?

• 34:45Speaker 04

  The MagSafe wallet also, well, the new ones also have Find My, the new MagSafe wallets.

• 34:49David Imel?

  Oh, yeah.

• 34:50Andrew Manganelli?

  The wallet itself has Find My?

• 34:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, the wallet itself.

• 34:52Andrew Manganelli?

  So that means they've created something that can, in that form factor already.

• 34:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, I wondered that too.

• 34:58David Imel?

  Are you sure it's not just that when it's on your phone, it tracks its Bluetooth location?

• 35:03Andrew Manganelli?

  And that like when it disconnects?

• 35:04David Imel?

  And when it disconnects, it shows the last, Nomad had sent us their trackable wallets. I think they were the first ones to do the Find My, uh, wallet cards. Not wallets, wallet cards. And I tried to charge mine a couple of days ago and it just, it's not, it's, Gotta get the Ridge one, man. Does not charge. The Ridge one's way better. I think all of these are quite fickle.

• 35:22Speaker 04

  Wow, Marquez. How much did they pay you to say that?

• 35:25David Imel?

  I'm shilling, okay? Let me shill. Let me shill in peace.

• 35:28Andrew Manganelli?

  Just big hashtag.

• 35:30David Imel?

  It does wireless charge, so if it ever does. Yeah, they all, they're all like MagSafe wireless charging, but like the, I don't know, I imagine the, they break pretty easily, like all of them, because they're so thin. I don't know. Who knows? You can get this if you want to.

• 35:45David Imel?

  No, literally goes in your wallet next to your whatever other cards you have, and it's just like, if you ever leave your wallet behind, you'll just know that you can find it. Yeah. That's, Except, there was like this whole era where all wallets were advertised as RFID blocking. My wallet is RFID blocking, and so, Does RFID though block all the other? All radio frequencies. Radio frequency, infrared. So, What is RFID? Radio frequency identification? Infrared? RFID.

• 36:12Andrew Manganelli?

  Radio frequency identification?

• 36:14David Imel?

  Yeah. All radio frequencies? All of them? Yeah. Whoa. It was so people couldn't just walk by you and scan your, um, that's why they added the chip. Right. Because everybody had the, the stripe on the, on their credit card and people were just like stealing their credit card information. So they made all these RFID blocking wallets and I have a really old wallet. Cause like, what do you need to replace your wallet unless it literally explodes? And, uh, yeah, yeah. Now it's hard to find my wallet. Got it, got it, got it. So. Well, it does have a speaker in it. So if you ever do need to chime. Yeah, but it has to send the signal to the thing to chime the speaker. Oh, interesting, interesting. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Anyway.

• 36:56David Imel?

  Now that these credit cards have a chip, you don't need RFID wallets anymore, I guess. So. Sick. Um, this is not financial advice. Anyway. That's our rant for the first part of the pod. That's our rant episode. Um, make sure to find your friends' air tags inside or outside of movie theaters. And if you ever hear that new chime, you know, it's going down. Also, a quick update. It does only know the last location after it separates from your phone. Oh, okay. Yeah. That makes sense. That's just the phone. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Cool. Well, um, we'll take a quick break. We're going to talk about the trifold again. For real, for real this time on God. Uh, and then we are going to talk about TikTok being state sponsored media.

• 37:39Speaker 04

  But first.

• 37:40David Imel?

  But first. Trivia.

• 37:46David Imel?

  Oh, wait. Also, before we continue, Mariah is here. True.

• 37:50Andrew Manganelli?

  Hello, Mariah.

• 37:51David Imel?

  Mahiah.

• 37:51Andrew Manganelli?

  She spoke.

• 37:54Speaker 03

  I've been known to speak.

• 37:56David Imel?

  Unlike some people who make $900 million.

• 38:01Speaker 03

  Take that. All right. I'm going to apologize in advance. I'm not going to lie. Um, so this is an Ellis question and this is going to require some brain, big brain energy.

• 38:11David Imel?

  Okay.

• 38:12Speaker 03

  I'm going to read this out to you and then I can help explain it. Ellis's question for you is, uh, well, I guess it's less of a question.

• 38:19David Imel?

  It's not even a question.

• 38:21Speaker 03

  He literally put-

• 38:22David Imel?

  He's just telling us something.

• 38:23Speaker 03

  He literally gave you a task. Okay. So he said, whoever can spell the longest word using only letters that are also names of Apple silicon chips gets the point.

• 38:36David Imel?

  Wait, what?

• 38:37Speaker 03

  So we have the M series chip. We have like an R series T. So I'll give you all of the chip series letters and then you-

• 38:45David Imel?

  And it only uses those letters?

• 38:47Speaker 03

  Yeah. So I have like an anagram generator and I have to see who can spell the longest word using only the chips. This is his evil thing he wants to do to you, not my choice. So if you want to jot these down.

• 39:01Speaker 03

  A.

• 39:01David Imel?

  A, yep.

• 39:02Speaker 03

  M. R. S. T. C. U. W. N.

• 39:13David Imel?

  Wow, that is a lot.

• 39:14Andrew Manganelli?

  Yep, I knew four of those. I would have been screwed.

• 39:16David Imel?

  That almost spells Amsterdam. Very close.

• 39:22David Imel?

  Like if I squinted, it would look like I said Amsterdam.

• 39:24Speaker 03

  Yeah. It's the same. Anyway, so uh, this is gonna take some brain juice. So we can revisit this later and uh, I don't know what you're gonna spell with this.

• 39:35Andrew Manganelli?

  Are we allowed to use proper nouns?

• 39:36Speaker 03

  Uh.

• 39:38Andrew Manganelli?

  Why?

• 39:38Speaker 03

  Let me, let me check the list.

• 39:40David Imel?

  You're gonna put someone's name? Macron?

• 39:44Speaker 03

  Honestly, whoever gets the coolest answer, I'll give you the point.

• 39:48Speaker 03

  Ellis is in here. I can do what I want.

• 39:50David Imel?

  We will think about that.

• 39:51Andrew Manganelli?

  That's true.

• 39:52Speaker 03

  I'm so sorry.

• 39:53Andrew Manganelli?

  That's a lot of work.

• 39:54David Imel?

  Yeah. Answers up again like usual. We'll be right back.

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• 42:02Speaker 01

  All right, welcome back. We got to, maybe we should just rant again. We gotta talk about this trifold again. And we're talking about it because Samsung did finally announce the US price and availability of the Samsung Galaxy Trifold. I don't know if I remember what our guesses were for it. We were kind of thinking like a thousand dollars a side or something like that.

• 42:22David Imel?

  Which is not that far off.

• 42:24Speaker 01

  Right? Cause like a flagship's a thousand and then like a folding flagship is like

• 42:28David Imel?

  Two thousand.

• 42:28Speaker 01

  Eighteen hundred, two thousand ish. So the US price for the trifold is $2,899. And it's available only from Samsung. It's not going to be in carrier stores or anything like that. You just gotta go to Samsung.com or get it straight from Samsung in the US. Samsung store.

• 42:44David Imel?

  Yeah. Nine hundred sixty-six dollars per fold.

• 42:48Speaker 01

  It's three flagships.

• 42:51Speaker 01

  Here's the thing, I really like this phone. But as many people have pointed out, there are so many things you can get for $2,899. And I will push back on the people saying, you could just get a phone and a tablet. Well, duh, that's the point. The trifold is for the people who don't want two devices, they want it all in one device. So I'm seeing that, and I think it's a very usable phone with just the one. I don't use it as often as a two, but then wide open with three, it's an awesome tablet. I've really liked it.

• 43:19Andrew Manganelli?

  You can't even use it as a two.

• 43:21Speaker 01

  Well, it's not supposed to be a two. The Huawei you can use as a two. It gets kind of mad.

• 43:27Speaker 01

  And then you fold it wide open and it's the three and it's like, this is the greatest thing ever invented. But $2,899 is a lot of money.

• 43:34Andrew Manganelli?

  For tax.

• 43:34Speaker 01

  Obviously. For tax, you gotta ship it. Would you get a trifold for $2,899? No.

• 43:41Andrew Manganelli?

  No.

• 43:42Speaker 01

  You have to be in the small, very picky group who really wants this phone to spend that much on it. Do you think the price is kind of an intentional barrier? And it got a lot of people also thinking about, how much is the iPhone fold going to cost? Because it's not going to be a trifold, it's just going to be a regular fold competing against all the other 15 to $1,900 folds. Are they going to price it over all of those? Or right in the middle?

• 44:06Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm interested, but I don't think this has any context or is relevant to what the iPhone fold is going to cost. It's such a different phone in every aspect.

• 44:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, the iPhone fold is going to be more similar to the original Pixel Fold, like shorter passport style. There is a strong rumor that Samsung is actually working on a competitor fold that is shorter to compete more directly with the iPhone thing ever. And they're going to come out before, probably. Which would mean Samsung would have like four foldable phones, which is almost as many phones as their regular phone.

• 44:35Andrew Manganelli?

  They're literally like the leader in folding phones and then Apple still makes their first one.

• 44:39Speaker 01

  And they still copy them.

• 44:40Andrew Manganelli?

  We should copy that. That's crazy.

• 44:42Speaker 01

  It would be the same thing as when they made the Galaxy, they announced the Galaxy S25 Edge before the iPhone Air.

• 44:49Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 44:49Speaker 01

  Because they knew it was coming. Yeah, they knew it was coming and they got ahead of it and made the thing. And I could see them also doing that and beating the iPhone Fold to this form factor.

• 44:58Andrew Manganelli?

  True.

• 44:58Speaker 01

  It is interesting. I just think it's relevant. Because Samsung, this is a real phone that Samsung is gonna sell. It's like raise the ceiling for a price that you can pay on a phone. And before this, if you asked me what might Apple charge for their fold, I would have said probably right around eighteen ninety-nine.

• 45:12Andrew Manganelli?

  Nineteen ninety-nine.

• 45:14Speaker 01

  But now that this exists, I feel like it's gonna be over two thousand.

• 45:18David Imel?

  Yeah, I said, my guess is twenty-one ninety-nine, is my guess.

• 45:21Speaker 01

  That seems very possible.

• 45:24Andrew Manganelli?

  I hate that that seems possible.

• 45:25Speaker 04

  The tri-fold to me is more in line with when Apple sold the Vision Pro. It's like they don't expect people to buy it. So I feel like when Apple releases the fold, they're actually, they're actually gonna want people to buy it. So I don't know if it's gonna be as high priced.

• 45:42Andrew Manganelli?

  I bet the margins on the tri-fold are not great. And I bet they don't want to sell a whole ton of them. They want to be seen as leaders in the space. And like generate the hype. This is probably selling more regular folds. Just cuz people are like, wow, that's crazy, but it is pretty cool. I'm just gonna buy the.

• 46:00Speaker 01

  Do you guys think that the iPhone fold is gonna be able to run iPad apps?

• 46:04David Imel?

  That is a whole nother question.

• 46:07Speaker 01

  Is it gonna run iOS or iPadOS? Like, how innovative is Apple gonna get with the fold? I think, God, wow.

• 46:15Andrew Manganelli?

  What do I think or what do I want?

• 46:17Speaker 01

  Well, I definitely want iPadOS when it's unfolded. I want all the things. But it's only, it's only gonna be, we're thinking like an eight inch screen, like an iPad mini size. I guess that's fine.

• 46:26David Imel?

  What is the size of the iPad mini screen?

• 46:28Speaker 01

  Seven and change.

• 46:29David Imel?

  So it'll be bigger?

• 46:30Speaker 01

  Roughly the same, yeah.

• 46:31David Imel?

  Well, then they can run iPadOS.

• 46:33Speaker 01

  They can run iPadOS. But then, the thing is, when you close it, does it switch OSs? No way.

• 46:38David Imel?

  Yeah, I can't imagine that. Isn't iPadOS just iOS but with some like tweaks?

• 46:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, but all the window management stuff that's going on, all of the multitasking stuff, I don't picture them allowing you to use that on the smaller folded closed screen.

• 46:53Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay.

• 46:53Speaker 01

  So how do you manage?

• 46:54David Imel?

  Manage that.

• 46:54Speaker 04

  It's separate.

• 46:55David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 46:56Speaker 04

  You know how like on the folds?

• 46:57David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 46:57Speaker 04

  Uh, you can have like your home screen layout on the front separate than the inside.

• 47:01David Imel?

  I don't like it.

• 47:01Speaker 01

  You've got the taskbar on Android now. When you, when you open the foldable phone, you've got like the little taskbar on the bottom. That's not when you close it.

• 47:09David Imel?

  That's true.

• 47:09Speaker 01

  So they could do that.

• 47:11David Imel?

  Yeah, same.

• 47:11Speaker 01

  So a couple, so that's kind of like managed, like you open the phone. Cause I, I really liked the pixel fold thing where it was all continuity all the time. Your home screen setup, when you change it on the closed screen, when you open it, that would just be your two screens, the way you'd set them up on the closed screen. And then any app that you'd used on the closed screen, you open it up, it would continue using it on the, it would just go back and forth, everything would stay on. I liked that. I wonder if that's how Apple would do it.

• 47:40David Imel?

  You know, they should just make a merged OS, they can call it the same thing forever. They could just call it OS X, you know, like X. It's a perfect name to be used forever for all of their, oh.

• 47:50Speaker 01

  I have terrible news.

• 47:51Speaker 04

  Nice try.

• 47:52David Imel?

  I forgot.

• 47:53Speaker 04

  That's kind of the direction that Google is going with an Android with the pixel stuff though. It's like the front screen and the inside screen are just one continuous like

• 48:02David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 48:02Speaker 04

  operating system thing. I think that plays in their favor because there aren't a lot of Android tablet apps. Apple does not have that problem. Apple has a lot of iPad apps, so they could just separate the two completely and have the front screen do iPhone middle or inside screen do iPad. I'm completely just coming out of my ass here, so.

• 48:20Speaker 01

  There's so many questions that I have because of that. Like if I have an app installed, that's an iPad app and I open it with the screen open, obviously it opens iPad version. If I close it and have the smaller screen, is that gone?

• 48:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's just like.

• 48:35Speaker 01

  It's gone?

• 48:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, the app is gone. Using an iPhone now.

• 48:37David Imel?

  So it just feels like, I think at that point it feels like two different devices.

• 48:40Speaker 01

  I don't think they want, I think they want it to feel as fluid as possible. Like all the, all the early folds, I think the idea was you would expand your screen.

• 48:51David Imel?

  Like you go from having one screen, you're texting somebody, I gotta flip to the big screen. You open it, now it's texting on the big screen and it feels continuous and that was like-

• 48:59Speaker 04

  But you could still do that particular thing with iPhone and iPadOS. You know, like some of the apps are gonna be continuous, but I think in general, they want it to be, and this is again, me just completely theorizing, I think they want it to be two different experiences. You use the iPhone part of it and then when you want to do something a little bit more powerful that requires an iPad app, you open it up.

• 49:19Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't think they like that in one singular device, different experiences. I don't think they're gonna-

• 49:25Speaker 04

  The more you talk about this, the more I think there's no shot they do it.

• 49:28David Imel?

  Multiple experiences in one device? It's a phone, it's an iPod, it's some communication device. I thought they loved that, I thought they loved that. I just think that, well, I guess there's two things. Apple sells to people who want the simplicity of experience, but also people buying a 2,000 something dollar folding phone are not the usual iPhone customer. Maybe those people are cool with having a little more flexibility or customization. Flexibility?

• 49:53Andrew Manganelli?

  They're cool like that?

• 49:54David Imel?

  Flexibility, yeah. So I don't know, I kinda lean towards Android. Like I think they probably want it to be as simple and fluid as possible. Open, close, big, small, like the same thing, just big or small.

• 50:05Speaker 04

  That's the same as Android though. Like you're just doing what the fold already does, what the pixel fold already does.

• 50:11David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 50:12Speaker 04

  I don't think Apple would do that personally.

• 50:13Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, yeah, cuz they just do the thing that Android does, but it's iOS.

• 50:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, but now they also have iPadOS. That's what I'm saying, like Android doesn't have that to fall back on.

• 50:22David Imel?

  I think that Apple generally does a good job of knowing what to do with the new stuff. Like Android and all the Android manufacturers tend to give you stuff before they know what to do with it. Although, Apple did not do that with the Vision Pro. Uh, but with a lot of their stuff, you know, they wait longer, but then when they actually ship it, they're like, "Look at all these useful things you can do that we like tested and deployed and they all work with your current ecosystem and whatever." I feel like they're probably going to have special use cases for the foldable phone cuz otherwise, I don't know, most iPhone users that I talked to are like- I don't care about foldable phone. Why would I want a foldable phone?

• 50:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's gotta be something, some reason that you get the foldable, like something that you can do on the foldable that you can't do on the regular iPhone.

• 51:07David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 51:07Speaker 01

  Bigger screen is one thing, obviously, but I want, I want productivity. I want something that, that there can be a commercial about or some use case or demo of like, that's why I want the fold.

• 51:17David Imel?

  Like iPad OS apps.

• 51:18Andrew Manganelli?

  You want Final Cut Pro on that inside screen?

• 51:20David Imel?

  That's what I want.

• 51:21Speaker 01

  Someone's gonna do that. Someone's gonna do that.

• 51:23David Imel?

  Amen.

• 51:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, wait, literally, Final Cut Pro for iPad. So can you?

• 51:26David Imel?

  Jesus.

• 51:27Andrew Manganelli?

  That's what I said.

• 51:27David Imel?

  Well, that's immediately what I thought. That's what I said.

• 51:29Speaker 03

  We can't.

• 51:30David Imel?

  It is touch oriented. It's touch first.

• 51:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's Final Cut for iPad now.

• 51:34David Imel?

  I'm just saying, damn.

• 51:36Speaker 03

  We should edit the main channel video.

• 51:38David Imel?

  With your finger on an 8-inch screen, yeah.

• 51:40Speaker 01

  Now that I'm picturing Final Cut Pro in my pocket, I don't think, I don't want it anymore. I don't think that's a good idea.

• 51:47Andrew Manganelli?

  I just don't see them releasing this product and being like, it's the same thing that's already out, just iPhone now. Oh, that's exactly how I see them doing it. Oh, yeah. Well, they don't say that. They go, all day battery.

• 51:59Speaker 01

  Although, when the iPad first came out, it was just iPhone, but bigger.

• 52:04David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 52:04Speaker 01

  Like literally.

• 52:05David Imel?

  It was horrible.

• 52:06Speaker 01

  It was literally just iPhone, but bigger.

• 52:08David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 52:08Andrew Manganelli?

  Now it's computer, but smaller, I feel like.

• 52:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz it's evolved a lot.

• 52:12Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 52:12Speaker 01

  It's, it went from like, why are these icons so far apart? Why does this look like my, and you open an iPhone app and it would just go bloop, it would be a huge version of it.

• 52:19David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 52:20Speaker 01

  And they've evolved much since then, but now they could be in a similar spot where they don't exactly know which direction to go. Do they lean more computer? Do they lean more simplicity?

• 52:27David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 52:28Speaker 01

  What if we just give them iPhone, but bigger and then see what people start doing with it and asking for and then, and then go from there?

• 52:33David Imel?

  For a very long time, they were very focused on selling you three separate devices. And now there's the rumors of the MacBook with the touchscreen coming out.

• 52:41Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 52:41David Imel?

  And I just, and then also the iPad, they have actually souped up to be like a workable computer now with iPad OS, uh, whatever it is, 26?

• 52:48Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm just picturing like Venn diagrams slowly coming closer together.

• 52:52David Imel?

  Slowly merging, yeah. Do you want the phone that's also an iPad? The iPad that's also a laptop or the laptop that's also a phone?

• 52:57Andrew Manganelli?

  What was the trivia question the other day? Padphone or phone pad?

• 53:02Speaker 01

  It does make sense. Vision Pro is all the things.

• 53:06David Imel?

  Ish.

• 53:07Speaker 01

  Strapped to your face.

• 53:08David Imel?

  Strapped to your face.

• 53:09Speaker 01

  Five pounds.

• 53:10David Imel?

  I have a question for you guys.

• 53:11Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 53:11David Imel?

  Do you want a touchscreen MacBook Pro?

• 53:13Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 53:14David Imel?

  You're using a MacBook Pro. You do want a touchscreen.

• 53:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 53:16Andrew Manganelli?

  I like, I like touchscreen laptops, weirdly.

• 53:18David Imel?

  Mariah, you have a MacBook Pro?

• 53:20Speaker 03

  I think it's fun.

• 53:22David Imel?

  Touchscreen is fun, yeah.

• 53:23Speaker 03

  I used to have like a Dell XPS that was like the 4K touchscreen and it was just, I like, would never practically use it, but I think it's a novelty.

• 53:31Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't know how much extra I would pay for it, but there are times like literally sitting in the pod here where I'd like to just like take my finger and scroll on the outline.

• 53:39Speaker 04

  That's the thing. I think people think completely like, oh, I'm just gonna be using it as a tablet and just tapping the screen and seeing it wobble and it's like, yeah, it's not for that. It's just for like, okay, but three times you're sitting on the couch and you just wanna scroll with your thumb really quickly.

• 53:51David Imel?

  In Photoshop, being able to like turn things, rotate things, zoom it, it's very helpful. I used to love that on my, I mean, look, pencil support, they should just do on the, on the trackpad. The trackpad's so massive, they can easily turn it into a drawing tablet. They should have done that 10 years ago.

• 54:07Speaker 03

  Are we just reverse engineering the two-in-one laptop or the laptop completely full?

• 54:11Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 54:12Andrew Manganelli?

  How dare you?

• 54:13Speaker 03

  I think it's a full circle. We're coming back.

• 54:15David Imel?

  No, no, no, no, nobody wants that. Don't you, nobody wants that.

• 54:17Speaker 01

  That was a weird era and I, I do remember a lot of those things.

• 54:21David Imel?

  Lenovo Yoga.

• 54:22Speaker 03

  My mom still has one. They do the job.

• 54:25David Imel?

  All of my Bitcoin that I, that I mined in 2012 is on a Lenovo Yoga Book 9i, orange, clementine orange color.

• 54:34Speaker 01

  Something's telling me have like 5,000 Bitcoin on this.

• 54:37Andrew Manganelli?

  I, back when it was worth 45 cents.

• 54:40David Imel?

  Yeah, it was worth like a penny. It was like very low.

• 54:45Speaker 01

  I am, I guess while we're on the topic, I am not sure that I want a touchscreen MacBook Pro. I've never really wanted to use a touchscreen on laptops I've had in the past that have touchscreens. It really is like the once in a while scroll or hit a button thing and I wouldn't pay extra for that. I would be very happy to not have that and save money.

• 55:03David Imel?

  I already have to clean my MacBook display all the time, so I'm okay with cleaning it more.

• 55:08Speaker 04

  I just don't think it's that new technology that it would raise the price that much anymore. Like, we've had these for a decade now. Like, they could just do it and it'll be fine.

• 55:15David Imel?

  Well, I think, isn't the rumor it's supposed to be like an OLED touchscreen? Like, it's gonna be a brand new display technology, this really, really cool display and also it's the first touch.

• 55:22Andrew Manganelli?

  And also it's Apple selling it, so they're gonna charge more for it.

• 55:25Speaker 03

  Hell, yeah.

• 55:26Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, come on.

• 55:27David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 55:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:28Andrew Manganelli?

  You think?

• 55:29David Imel?

  I mean.

• 55:29Andrew Manganelli?

  Storage and RAM has cost that much to Apple?

• 55:32David Imel?

  Yeah, they're really touching for the RAM.

• 55:33Speaker 01

  The control center on macOS now, it looks like it's meant to be touched. It looks just like the iPad. So at this point, it doesn't seem like they have that much work to do to get to a touchscreen laptop. I just don't love the wobble and the fingerprints and the weird inconsistent stuff going on. So I'm not thrilled about it, but I'll, I'll watch and learn and see if they, they have any features or interesting things I'm interested in. I have a feeling, I have a feeling I'm just going to want the new OLED. And I'm going to get it. And then it happens to be a touchscreen and I'm probably not gonna.

• 56:03David Imel?

  What if it's OLED plus anti-glare?

• 56:05Speaker 01

  I'm gonna be so happy.

• 56:07David Imel?

  But please.

• 56:08Speaker 01

  It probably won't be.

• 56:09Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, cuz isn't the anti-glare?

• 56:11David Imel?

  It's kind of.

• 56:11Andrew Manganelli?

  Really hard to clean?

• 56:12David Imel?

  Well, and it also like, it kind of cuts the light output.

• 56:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:16Speaker 04

  Speaking of anti-glare.

• 56:18Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh.

• 56:18Speaker 01

  Hey. Okay, well, we were supposed, that was supposed to be a Samsung Trifold conversation.

• 56:23Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 56:24Speaker 01

  But we got there. But yes, speaking of anti-glare, we have some interesting Galaxy X26 teaser information.

• 56:31Andrew Manganelli?

  X26?

• 56:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, S26.

• 56:32Speaker 01

  S, it's like, okay, S26 teaser, apparently it's going to have a privacy display, which will not just be a film that goes over your phone that, you know how people have those, uh, the, the screen protector things that they put on their phone? And you try to read their phone over their shoulder on the subway and you're like, why can't I read their screen?

• 56:50David Imel?

  It looks like it's blank.

• 56:51Speaker 01

  It's annoying.

• 56:52David Imel?

  I don't know.

• 56:52Andrew Manganelli?

  Excuse me, sir, could you tilt that a little? I'm trying to read your text.

• 56:55Speaker 03

  Why are you reading people's stuff?

• 56:55Speaker 01

  Dude, it's so fun.

• 56:57Speaker 03

  What's wrong with you, bro? Don't read their stuff.

• 57:00Speaker 04

  It's so fun watching people.

• 57:01Speaker 01

  It is sometimes hard to look away. Like someone will be like standing or sitting in front of you and you don't wanna look, but it's just, they're just, it's right there.

• 57:08David Imel?

  Yeah, literally I'm just like cramped up and he's holding his phone like this and he's on Facebook dating. And he's 65 years old.

• 57:16Speaker 03

  Dude, mind your own business.

• 57:18David Imel?

  I can't, it's in front of me.

• 57:19Speaker 01

  I was very against this feature until Jessica.

• 57:23Speaker 01

  So what's the feature? The feature is, some people have said that Samsung is going to be enabling a privacy mode feature where you get a new notification and it blacks out just the notification area from off-axis viewing.

• 57:39Andrew Manganelli?

  So just to be clear, Samsung announced that. They had a press release out with these kind of like teaser videos of like a person on a subway and it would, it would pop up and show like the, your password swipe. And then it would turn to the side and you couldn't see it. Or a pop-up would come out of where you enter your password and then it would turn and you couldn't see just that far.

• 57:59David Imel?

  And then it just zooms in on David's face.

• 58:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 58:01Speaker 01

  Disappointed standing there.

• 58:02David Imel?

  To be clear, because sarcasm does not go on the internet, I only saw someone's dating app once and it was Facebook Dating. It was very funny, but I don't generally look at people's phones.

• 58:12Speaker 01

  But I have seen the Privacy Screen Protector many times. I've thought about getting them and then I put one on my phone and it just destroys the display quality. And I look at, I look at it from two degrees off-axis and it's starting to turn gray. And I'm like, ah. So I don't love them. This would be hardware level and software level, built in.

• 58:29David Imel?

  They need to do what the Nintendo 3DS did where it tracks your eyes. So if you're looking at your phone from the side, it still, you know, does not polarize it, you know? That would be really helpful because I'm not always looking at my phone straight on. You know, what if it's on the table and I want to look at the notification? It's just black.

• 58:45Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, here's, it seems like it's customizable because they say, this is from their press releases, "A new layer of privacy to shield your phone from shoulder surfing wherever you go." So from David Amel, wherever you go. And then it says, "Multiple settings for adjusting visibility. You can limit what others can see based on the level of privacy protection you need. You can also choose to protect specific parts of your experience such as notification pop-ups. It's tailored, it's a tailored approach that you can fine-tune or switch off entirely rather than a blanket one." So. If you're worried about that, you can have it turned off. I'm assuming it might be like a quick setting because that would be nice to be like, I'm at home, don't do it. I'm on the bus, quick setting.

• 59:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:24Andrew Manganelli?

  Privacy mode.

• 59:24Speaker 01

  David's standing behind me.

• 59:26Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 59:27Speaker 01

  Turn it off.

• 59:28Andrew Manganelli?

  My David air tag is going off.

• 59:30Speaker 01

  I'm wondering how this works. I'm guessing that they have some sort of like polarization layer that they can turn on with like electricity or something and it just does that area. Did they explain how it works?

• 59:41Andrew Manganelli?

  No.

• 59:42Speaker 01

  But I would guess. But it's similar, it's probably similar to the way that they work in like the really fancy hotels, how the the showers can like turn black all of a sudden.

• 59:50Andrew Manganelli?

  Frosted. There was apparently something at MWC 2025 called Flex Magic Pixel OLED that some people are wondering if that's gonna be the technology. But Samsung is not officially.

• 1:00:01Speaker 01

  I'll do one better. If you've seen the Escalade IQ or one of those new Cadillacs where there's a passenger screen, but from the driver's seat, you can't see anything on the passenger screen because it's.

• 1:00:13Andrew Manganelli?

  Distracting?

• 1:00:14Speaker 01

  No, it's because it's polarized, it's black. It looks.

• 1:00:18Andrew Manganelli?

  But it's that big, so you're not like watching.

• 1:00:20Speaker 01

  But you can turn that on and off.

• 1:00:22Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay.

• 1:00:23Speaker 01

  So if it's, it turns on when you're driving or when you're in the driver's seat, whatever, and you can turn that display on and off, but you can turn the polarization on and off.

• 1:00:29Andrew Manganelli?

  Is that piezoelectric? Is that what they call that?

• 1:00:31Speaker 01

  I think that's more the like tinting sunroofs are are electrochromic or something like that.

• 1:00:37Andrew Manganelli?

  It's probably some sort of polarization through electric current.

• 1:00:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, either way, the ability to turn it on and off built into the display.

• 1:00:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:45Speaker 01

  At a like a hardware level.

• 1:00:46Andrew Manganelli?

  Now getting display replacements for this phone are gonna be like $400.

• 1:00:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, so it's it's interesting because it seems like a really cool feature and there's all these headlines in the past about, oh, wow, Sam's looks like the S26 is gonna be basically the same as the S25. Camera should be the same, like specs are just gonna bump up like usual, but this is a genuinely new and impressive feature, but it will also be more expensive to do this. And I wonder like what that does to the rest of the phone and also repair costs.

• 1:01:12Andrew Manganelli?

  I just want to be able to attach this to like a Samsung routine or something so that it like automatically turns on when you're commuting.

• 1:01:18Speaker 01

  I'm sure.

• 1:01:19Andrew Manganelli?

  And then like off when you're home. I don't know, because routines is like hit or miss with what it'll let you do.

• 1:01:23Speaker 01

  That's true. I just recently was like moving. My fridge around in my garage and it's one of those Samsung fridges with a screen on it. Cause I didn't like it anymore, but I.

• 1:01:30Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, I was like, why is your garage fridge?

• 1:01:32Speaker 01

  It was the fridge that came with the house and I hated it and I moved it to the garage and. And I just still have this freezer where I keep my lunches and forget them every day. Uh, but it has like the Samsung like smart things, Bixby, whatever. And it just turns on. It's like, it basically only gets accidentally triggered. Like I'll, I'll open the door and then like the light blinds me. I'm like, why is the fridge have a light? Uh, but yeah, those, those features hardly ever work. So it is a very, a valid assumption that this could also not quite work.

• 1:01:59David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:00Speaker 04

  Question for you guys. Will the S26 series have G2?

• 1:02:05Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:02:06David Imel?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:02:07Andrew Manganelli?

  G2 or G2?

• 1:02:08David Imel?

  Hundred percent.

• 1:02:09Andrew Manganelli?

  No, G2 ready.

• 1:02:10Speaker 01

  A hundred and two percent.

• 1:02:11Speaker 04

  So like you have a case and you slap it on.

• 1:02:13Andrew Manganelli?

  Wait, you have a G2 ready?

• 1:02:15David Imel?

  That's G2 ready.

• 1:02:16Andrew Manganelli?

  That's G2 ready. That's what I think it's.

• 1:02:17Speaker 01

  G2 magnet in the phone.

• 1:02:19Speaker 04

  In the phone, I'm saying.

• 1:02:19David Imel?

  It's gonna have it.

• 1:02:21Speaker 01

  Like Pixel Snap and MagSafe.

• 1:02:22David Imel?

  Like Google added it last year. So they, Samsung has to, they're competing with Google in the United States.

• 1:02:29Speaker 01

  So.

• 1:02:29David Imel?

  They're gonna have it.

• 1:02:30Speaker 04

  G2 ready.

• 1:02:31Speaker 01

  It wouldn't shock me if it was G2 ready.

• 1:02:34David Imel?

  I'm from the future and it has G2.

• 1:02:36Andrew Manganelli?

  God, I hope so.

• 1:02:37Speaker 04

  Please tell me it's brighter over there.

• 1:02:40David Imel?

  In the future? I got bad news for you.

• 1:02:43Andrew Manganelli?

  I've got bad news.

• 1:02:44David Imel?

  Speaking of bad news.

• 1:02:45Speaker 01

  The future has a privacy screen on it. Andrew, you can't see anything.

• 1:02:49David Imel?

  Anyway, uh, speaking of bad news, wait, what was the next thing we were gonna talk about? Bad news? Uh, oh, no, this is good news, my friend. This is very good news because everybody is leaving this shit. Okay, we gotta talk about TikTok again. We talked about TikTok multiple times last year. Uh, because you know, the, during the Biden administration, they, Congress passed an act that said they had to sell it or divested all this stuff. It got delayed, delayed, delayed. Whoop de doo, delay. Okay, now we finally entered the darkness zone, which is the area where, um, it did get divested. Um, to all Trump's friends, uh, Oracle and a bunch of other investors.

• 1:03:28David Imel?

  So now 19.9% is still owned by ByteDance. 80.1 is owned by Silverlake, Oracle, MGX, Michael Dell's investment firm and a bunch of individual investors. In the first couple of days of the changeover, there were some pretty massive loading issues. People are not able to load certain videos. If you published videos, it was showing zero views for a very long period of time. It was not great. Oracle has since come out and blamed that on a power issue. Sure.

• 1:03:58Speaker 04

  It's coming full circle. There was a blizzard. I was watching Blizzard YouTube.

• 1:04:02David Imel?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:03Speaker 04

  There's power outages in Texas.

• 1:04:04David Imel?

  Power outages.

• 1:04:04Andrew Manganelli?

  I was gonna say, is there a data center in Texas?

• 1:04:07Speaker 04

  I have no idea.

• 1:04:07David Imel?

  I don't know, probably. Also, people have been noticing a lot of banned words in the DMs. This is kind of all over the place. The PopCrave, I think, did like a story on this that was like kind of true, but also kind of not true. But also it's affecting people differently. But if you say some individual words like test or Epstein, it blocks your DMs.

• 1:04:29Speaker 04

  Both of which failed for me when I tested it.

• 1:04:31Andrew Manganelli?

  Did you do just the singular word?

• 1:04:33Speaker 04

  I did just the singular word.

• 1:04:34Andrew Manganelli?

  So what was confusing is The Verge did an article testing it where a lot of singular words being sent in were not sending. But then I saw another test of someone else using some of those words in sentences. And it also was saying something about community guidelines. So it's all so confusing and messed up. And in the midst of this like data center outage or whatever with the zero posts. And it's been a rough start for US TikTok.

• 1:04:59David Imel?

  I'm just gonna say like, there's a lot of conspiracy theories like buzzing up that they already changed the algorithm. They're already suppressing your speech. And like, while I think this is probably incompetence, I also think they won't not suppress your speech. So you should probably just get off this platform.

• 1:05:14Speaker 04

  I had a question about this because wasn't the whole point of this about the algorithm?

• 1:05:19Andrew Manganelli?

  Was like to keep the algorithm.

• 1:05:22Speaker 04

  It is quite cold in here, so Mariah has bundled up accordingly. Yeah. Yeah, isn't this the same, like, do they have the algorithm yet? Have they taken that away from?

• 1:05:30David Imel?

  They said that they they have a modified algorithm, yes.

• 1:05:33Speaker 04

  What does that mean?

• 1:05:34David Imel?

  They don't know, dude. They don't know.

• 1:05:38Speaker 01

  It rots your brain a little faster.

• 1:05:39David Imel?

  A little bit differently.

• 1:05:41Speaker 01

  It's like the the Sprite from McDonald's versus regular Sprite.

• 1:05:43Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, we all know that's better.

• 1:05:46David Imel?

  His algorithm is a McDonald's Sprite. So a lot of people are leaving the platform to go trying to move to this platform called Upscrolled, which advertises itself as like being free of moderation. And when you go on Upscrolled, you can see why there are a lot of photos that you don't want to see on there immediately. It kind of just looks like Instagram, too. I don't really know why they're moving to this specific app when there are many other ones. I will say there's an app called Skylight that's on the A A T protocol that Blue Sky also uses. If we're, look, I'm against short form content in general, but if we're going to move to another short form content platform.

• 1:06:26Speaker 04

  We're going to Red Note, baby.

• 1:06:28David Imel?

  Why don't they just go back to Red? They already have, they already have users on it. Maybe just try one that is can't be owned by billionaires. Maybe that would be great.

• 1:06:37Speaker 04

  We tried this.

• 1:06:38Speaker 01

  May I suggest YouTube?

• 1:06:40Andrew Manganelli?

  No billionaires there.

• 1:06:41Speaker 04

  Can't be owned by billionaires.

• 1:06:43David Imel?

  Yeah, YouTube does have a good track record, you know? If they would just pay people a little bit more for for shorts, that'd be great. Yeah, I mean.

• 1:06:51Speaker 04

  The incentive's aligned with YouTube, so.

• 1:06:53David Imel?

  YouTube would be a better option than than TikTok. Anyway, as you said on Slack the other day when this happened, a lot of people are just gonna go to over to Upscrolled, see that it sucks, and then just go right back into TikTok's arms. They're gonna do that. It's sad.

• 1:07:08Andrew Manganelli?

  I have one other thing about TikTok. There was like also a lot of posts, not just of words being blocked, but of like these policy changes and about the kind of your privacy and what you would have to, I guess, fill out. There's like immigration status and stuff on it.

• 1:07:26Speaker 04

  But that was there before.

• 1:07:27David Imel?

  That was there.

• 1:07:27Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, there's Sarah Perez from TechCrunch did a really great article going over all the things that were there, weren't there? And also the super, one of the.

• 1:07:38Andrew Manganelli?

  It's very nuanced. One of the things was apparently there's a law passed in California where certain things needed to be fixed. And I think those things had to get fixed before the selling to Oracle and everything. And some of those may have changed. Go read her article. It explains it all. It's very long to actually hear, figure out what all of it is, but it's, there's a lot of incompetence going here.

• 1:07:59David Imel?

  Yeah, both incompetence and also just.

• 1:08:02Andrew Manganelli?

  It's incompetence from a bunch of people I don't trust. So, yeah.

• 1:08:06David Imel?

  The com- the crazy combination of like stupidity and malice is just making this whole thing really bad. So I would maybe think about YouTube or Skylight.

• 1:08:16Andrew Manganelli?

  This is the problem with social media in general right now. And I thought Threads was gonna help fix this with like actually federating. I thought Mark was gonna fix this all. This is the whole point of us doing all these episodes like two years ago at this point to like to avoid things like this happening where one platform gets taken over or you don't agree with something and you're just like.

• 1:08:35David Imel?

  That's when they thought they had competition.

• 1:08:37Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah. Do you know how I can tell David's not actually from the future?

• 1:08:40David Imel?

  Why?

• 1:08:41Andrew Manganelli?

  Cause he still thinks the Fediverse is gonna work.

• 1:08:44David Imel?

  Wow.

• 1:08:45Andrew Manganelli?

  Got him.

• 1:08:45David Imel?

  Damn. Um, yeah. Threads basically stopped their federation efforts and I'm very upset about it. Anyway, TikTok sucks. Uh, I say as someone who's never used it. So I'm clearly the.

• 1:09:01Speaker 01

  As someone who is using TikTok, it is definitely kind of broken. I posted a short uh, two days ago or something and it has like a 50th of the views that it typically would get. So I'm observ- and the views kind of froze 24 hours ago and haven't gone up. So something's.

• 1:09:16Andrew Manganelli?

  It's cold out, man.

• 1:09:18Speaker 01

  Facts.

• 1:09:18David Imel?

  I froze 24 hours ago.

• 1:09:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:21Andrew Manganelli?

  Mariah's currently freezing.

• 1:09:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, she is the view counter on this TikTok. It was like a one and a half million views average and this one has 29,000 views and was stuck there for 24 hours. So I don't know what's going on over there. If something's broken, hopefully they fix it soon and then like get it working again. And we can all keep doom scrolling.

• 1:09:37Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, we rot our brains.

• 1:09:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:40Speaker 01

  Speaking of brain rot.

• 1:09:44Speaker 01

  Time to use our brains.

• 1:09:47Speaker 04

  Not for this one. Well, kind of. Okay. We just spoke about Samsung.

• 1:09:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:51Speaker 04

  They make a lot of things. Displays, phones, refrigerators, washer machines. What kind of machine is the Samsung SE130 LC-2?

• 1:10:03Speaker 01

  What? Probably a bulldozer or something.

• 1:10:08Speaker 01

  Samsung is literally the entire economy of a country. I think they can make any, literally, you could just name anything and it would be like, oh yeah, Samsung makes that.

• 1:10:15Speaker 04

  I will take the category. So if you give me the category of thing.

• 1:10:19Speaker 01

  Tech. Machine.

• 1:10:20Speaker 04

  Yeah. Not that broad.

• 1:10:22Speaker 01

  Samsung makes it. Okay. Wow. Wow. That is good trivia. I have no clue. So we're, I hope you guys also don't know. And then we'll all learn something today.

• 1:10:31Speaker 04

  Bulldozer is not, not that bad of a.

• 1:10:34Speaker 01

  Excavator. Well, we'll guess. Answers will be at the end like usual. We'll be right back.

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• 1:12:21Andrew Manganelli?

  All right, welcome back. If you are a video watcher, I am now at the producers table. And Mariah is still here. Ellis has not been here, but we needed him for this game because there will be teams. So welcome back.

• 1:12:33Speaker 04

  The magic of editing.

• 1:12:34Andrew Manganelli?

  Ellis.

• 1:12:34Speaker 04

  Teams. Teams.

• 1:12:37Speaker 01

  I can't hear the music right now.

• 1:12:38Speaker 04

  It's, it's, it's pretty epic. This is the worst walk-on music ever. Oh, my God. Who picked this music? This is terrible.

• 1:12:48Speaker 04

  Let's just, whatever team this is for is definitely going to lose this game. Whoa. All right, that's, that's.

• 1:12:55Andrew Manganelli?

  That's like every Disney Channel, high school, baseball, walkout music.

• 1:13:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, so we're going to play a game.

• 1:13:03Speaker 04

  Play a game.

• 1:13:04Andrew Manganelli?

  Uh, I'm going to explain it. It is based on the game Wavelengths. Have you, any of you ever played?

• 1:13:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I have never heard of this.

• 1:13:11Andrew Manganelli?

  For those of you who have not, you've probably seen a video of it. I've never played, but I have seen people play it and it looks super fun. It's basically you have a wheel and on that wheel, there is a one to 10. And you're going to get a, you're going to get concepts. And in that set of concepts, that has a scale between one and 10. And essentially what happens is one player on each team is going to get a number. That person needs to give a clue for their teammate to be able to find where on this scale in this concept we're talking about. Um, so.

• 1:13:43Speaker 04

  Can we get an example?

• 1:13:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Yes, I have an example. That's kind of a confusing explanation. I think the example will be pretty easy.

• 1:13:51Andrew Manganelli?

  The example I have is least sold Apple product, most sold Apple product. So if you get a 10, you're probably going to say the iPhone. If you get one, you could say Air Power.

• 1:14:01Speaker 01

  Vision Pro.

• 1:14:02Andrew Manganelli?

  Uh, you could say Vision Pro. Vision Pro would probably be like a two or a three, maybe on there. Uh, maybe AirPods is like a seven. So pretty much if I were to give that to, if I gave the number seven to Marquez, he wants to give the clue to David to try and pick between one to seven.

• 1:14:19Speaker 01

  Oh, he gives me a clue? I'm trying to get you to guess the number.

• 1:14:23Andrew Manganelli?

  The number.

• 1:14:24Speaker 01

  So I'm going to say, okay, in my head, the number is seven. All right, David, most sold Apple product to least sold Apple product. Most sold is a 10, iPad. And you use that context to try to give a number.

• 1:14:39Andrew Manganelli?

  Based on what you think. Based on a scale of one to 10, isn't that?

• 1:14:41David Imel?

  I'd probably say seven or eight.

• 1:14:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, that makes sense.

• 1:14:43David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay. The way points will work, five points for the exact number.

• 1:14:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:48Andrew Manganelli?

  Three points for one number off in any direction. One point for two numbers off in either direction.

• 1:14:53Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:14:53Andrew Manganelli?

  Um, no decimals, we're just doing one to 10.

• 1:14:57Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:14:57David Imel?

  Where are the teams?

• 1:14:58Andrew Manganelli?

  It is Marquez and David.

• 1:14:59Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:15:00Andrew Manganelli?

  Versus Ellis and Adam.

• 1:15:01David Imel?

  Oh, wait, so the music was awesome that you picked. Holy crap. Did you not know we were on a team?

• 1:15:05Speaker 01

  I did not.

• 1:15:07Andrew Manganelli?

  So what I will need is.

• 1:15:10David Imel?

  Marquez and I don't have music. Where's our music?

• 1:15:13Speaker 01

  We don't need it, we're good.

• 1:15:13David Imel?

  That's true.

• 1:15:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're locked in.

• 1:15:15Andrew Manganelli?

  I am going to send, um, the number to each of you in Slack.

• 1:15:19Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:15:20Andrew Manganelli?

  So that you know, if you have something you can look at Slack on, that would be perfect. Um, and then I'll give, I'm also, this is all tech based. I might give a little more of a category before these. Um, I'll show you an example.

• 1:15:31Speaker 01

  So am I allowed to say out loud what the number is?

• 1:15:33Andrew Manganelli?

  No.

• 1:15:34David Imel?

  You want Marquez?

• 1:15:35Andrew Manganelli?

  The whole point is he's supposed to guess the number.

• 1:15:37Speaker 01

  I see, I see, I see, I see, I see.

• 1:15:38Andrew Manganelli?

  So let me start this with.

• 1:15:40Speaker 01

  Got it, got it, got it.

• 1:15:41Andrew Manganelli?

  I feel like Ellis knows what's going on.

• 1:15:43David Imel?

  Yeah, I've, I've played this game before.

• 1:15:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, cool.

• 1:15:45Speaker 01

  Play the game.

• 1:15:46Andrew Manganelli?

  I am going to.

• 1:15:47Speaker 01

  Everybody play the game. Can I see Ellis's number while he's trying to get Adam to guess it?

• 1:15:52Andrew Manganelli?

  You could if you wanted to.

• 1:15:54Speaker 01

  I'll just look.

• 1:15:54Andrew Manganelli?

  But here it is, you, you say the clue once and then you don't say anything else. It's supposed to be one word, but I'm just gonna say one product. So like Samsung Galaxy S25 is an okay.

• 1:16:05Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 1:16:06Andrew Manganelli?

  Clue. Um, so I'm going to do for Ellis.

• 1:16:11Speaker 01

  For me.

• 1:16:13Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm gonna do, I have a lot of different ones here. Okay. The category is tech CEO. The scale is never heard of them to household name.

• 1:16:22Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:16:22Andrew Manganelli?

  So never heard of them is one, household name is 10. You're giving a clue of a tech CEO and your number is.

• 1:16:29Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:16:29David Imel?

  My mom has never heard of a single tech CEO.

• 1:16:31Speaker 04

  Well, 10 is everybody knows, one is.

• 1:16:35David Imel?

  Nobody knows.

• 1:16:35Andrew Manganelli?

  We should have music playing during this. I don't know how to do that.

• 1:16:41Speaker 04

  Damn, okay, this is a tough one because I feel like this is sort of a binary.

• 1:16:44David Imel?

  Oh, it's a lot of talking, a lot of talking, a lot of talking. You only get to say a few words.

• 1:16:46Speaker 04

  Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, right, right.

• 1:16:49Andrew Manganelli?

  Hmm. It's a good thing we had such good walk on music.

• 1:16:53Speaker 04

  I'm gonna say.

• 1:16:56Speaker 04

  I'm gonna say, I don't remember his name, so I guess I can't. That doesn't say.

• 1:17:03Speaker 04

  Frickin'.

• 1:17:06Speaker 04

  Larry Page.

• 1:17:07David Imel?

  That's how I was thinking. I don't even know.

• 1:17:10Speaker 04

  You don't know the number?

• 1:17:10David Imel?

  I don't know the number. I just.

• 1:17:11Speaker 04

  Sounds just like that. You're just thinking about Larry Page.

• 1:17:13David Imel?

  I was just thinking about Larry Page.

• 1:17:14Andrew Manganelli?

  So my answer needs to be a number.

• 1:17:16Speaker 04

  Yes, it's off.

• 1:17:18Andrew Manganelli?

  My number, you said Larry Page?

• 1:17:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:17:20Andrew Manganelli?

  So my number is going, oh damn. My number's gonna be eight.

• 1:17:26Speaker 04

  You think?

• 1:17:29David Imel?

  That's power.

• 1:17:30Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:17:31David Imel?

  You think that?

• 1:17:32Speaker 04

  Who knows about, yeah, who knows about Larry Page?

• 1:17:36David Imel?

  I do.

• 1:17:37Speaker 04

  People don't know who invented Google?

• 1:17:39David Imel?

  No, most people do not.

• 1:17:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, okay, nevermind.

• 1:17:42Andrew Manganelli?

  Mariah's shaking her head.

• 1:17:43Speaker 04

  If I had said Sergey Brin, would you have guessed six?

• 1:17:45Andrew Manganelli?

  Eight.

• 1:17:45Speaker 04

  No, that's, oh, six? Damn, I was between six and eight.

• 1:17:48Andrew Manganelli?

  I should have just been like, do more people know it or people don't know it?

• 1:17:51David Imel?

  I'd say six is a really good, that's a good one.

• 1:17:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, damn.

• 1:17:54Andrew Manganelli?

  Thank you.

• 1:17:55Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, that is good. That's my bad. All right, I get it, I get it.

• 1:17:57Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, we got it. Marquez, I'm gonna send you one.

• 1:18:00David Imel?

  Marquez, we're locked in.

• 1:18:01Speaker 04

  All right, let's go.

• 1:18:02David Imel?

  Brain, brain blast.

• 1:18:03Andrew Manganelli?

  Down the points.

• 1:18:04Speaker 04

  So, so we got one point?

• 1:18:06Andrew Manganelli?

  Yep, you got one.

• 1:18:07Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:18:07David Imel?

  Cause you're two off.

• 1:18:07Andrew Manganelli?

  And then I'm crossing these out.

• 1:18:09Speaker 04

  Oh, we did get.

• 1:18:10Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, we got all points.

• 1:18:12David Imel?

  Yeah, one point for that.

• 1:18:12Speaker 04

  That's sick. I was just trying to mess up the game.

• 1:18:17Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, Marquez, I'm going to do the category smartphone. The scale is fingerprint magnet to super clean. So number one would be a fingerprint magnet. Number 10 would be the opposite of a fingerprint magnet. It's just really clean all of the time.

• 1:18:34David Imel?

  Okay.

• 1:18:35Andrew Manganelli?

  Your number is?

• 1:18:37David Imel?

  Tennis clean, tennis clean. Okay.

• 1:18:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, tennis clean.

• 1:18:41David Imel?

  Okay. Crazy.

• 1:18:44Speaker 04

  This one's.

• 1:18:45David Imel?

  It's crazy.

• 1:18:45Speaker 04

  Tennis clean, one is fingerprints never show up.

• 1:18:47David Imel?

  Okay.

• 1:18:49Speaker 04

  What?

• 1:18:50David Imel?

  No, I have this thinking.

• 1:18:51Speaker 04

  One is fingerprints always.

• 1:18:52David Imel?

  One is.

• 1:18:53Andrew Manganelli?

  And it's a smartphone.

• 1:18:54David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:55Speaker 04

  I'm in their heads.

• 1:18:56David Imel?

  Rent free, rent free. Lock in, Marquez, lock in. iPhone 12 Pro. 12 Pro. Trying to remember what, okay, it was the first square one.

• 1:19:09Speaker 04

  Was this before you went iPhone?

• 1:19:11David Imel?

  Uh, yeah. I didn't switch until the 14 Pro.

• 1:19:15Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:19:16David Imel?

  But I did review the 12 Pro for Android Authority.

• 1:19:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:19:19David Imel?

  Notably not an Android phone. Um, it was square. Oh, oh, okay. Yes, I'm remembering. It was blue, Sierra blue, maybe?

• 1:19:29Speaker 04

  Why are you looking at me?

• 1:19:31David Imel?

  You're just my like focus target right now.

• 1:19:34Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:19:35David Imel?

  I think.

• 1:19:38David Imel?

  God, it's like right there. Um.

• 1:19:45David Imel?

  Okay, I think I'm gonna guess.

• 1:19:49Speaker 04

  Marquez is trying to brain blast this number.

• 1:19:54David Imel?

  Think.

• 1:19:55Speaker 04

  Think.

• 1:19:57David Imel?

  Um, it really wasn't insane, was it? I can't look at you.

• 1:20:02Speaker 03

  What's your gut reaction?

• 1:20:04David Imel?

  My gut reaction is like four.

• 1:20:09Speaker 04

  Was it actually four?

• 1:20:10David Imel?

  Yes.

• 1:20:11Speaker 04

  No way.

• 1:20:12Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't know if that was officially him guessing it. I think it should be. Quick on the trigger.

• 1:20:17Andrew Manganelli?

  I think we should have. You were taking long enough. So, yeah.

• 1:20:19Speaker 01

  That's what I.

• 1:20:19Andrew Manganelli?

  Five points.

• 1:20:20Speaker 04

  Wait, do we have unlimited time?

• 1:20:22Andrew Manganelli?

  No.

• 1:20:23Speaker 01

  Well, that's good to know.

• 1:20:24Andrew Manganelli?

  Mariah will be. It was quick enough. There's no official time. It's just whenever Mariah feels like it.

• 1:20:29Speaker 01

  Okay, that was huge.

• 1:20:30Speaker 04

  So they got two points?

• 1:20:31Andrew Manganelli?

  Wow.

• 1:20:32Speaker 01

  And I'm impatient, so five points.

• 1:20:33Andrew Manganelli?

  That's crazy.

• 1:20:34Speaker 01

  Five points.

• 1:20:35Speaker 04

  That was five points? That was five points?

• 1:20:37Andrew Manganelli?

  For nailing it on the head. Five, three, one.

• 1:20:39Speaker 04

  All right, I'm taking ten.

• 1:20:40Speaker 01

  I was thinking stainless steel rails. Stainless steel rails would be like a little.

• 1:20:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, let's do, um. Which one would, uh, this is for Adam. You're giving the clue. The, the category is a social media platform. The scale is zero views to probably viral. So one would be zero views.

• 1:21:02Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:21:03Andrew Manganelli?

  Ten would be most likely going viral.

• 1:21:05Speaker 04

  Based on the platform?

• 1:21:07Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, like, we all know platforms have different levels of. Activity pushed by the algorithm. I think you can quickly, pretty quickly think like what ten would be like, has the most probability of going viral. Versus what social media platform probably no one will ever see.

• 1:21:22Speaker 04

  No, I think, I think I get it. I think, well, it's, it's not, it's not whether I get it. It's whether I understand Adam's.

• 1:21:28Andrew Manganelli?

  That's whether I get it.

• 1:21:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. The ones who get it, get it.

• 1:21:32Speaker 04

  This is an interesting question for Adam and I because I'm not really on any social media. And Adam only uses like, what is it called? Like walrus or like whatever.

• 1:21:45Speaker 04

  Okay, yeah, you sent it to me. I'm thinking. So it needs, okay. I'm gonna go with.

• 1:21:56Speaker 04

  Levels of virality. Yeah.

• 1:22:01Speaker 04

  Okay. Since we can cut wherever and there's no time limit, let me think a little bit.

• 1:22:05Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, take your time, bro.

• 1:22:09Andrew Manganelli?

  What?

• 1:22:12Speaker 04

  Okay, so ten is obviously this. One is obviously this. So I'm gonna say.

• 1:22:17Speaker 01

  Words, lot of words. It could be ten or one.

• 1:22:20Speaker 04

  Blue sky. Okay, we did.

• 1:22:25Speaker 04

  This is, that's a good one because like, on the one. hand, literally no one uses Blue Sky. But the other hand,

• 1:22:33Speaker 04

  David, I saw you tweet yesterday.

• 1:22:35David Imel?

  I also Blue Sky. I skeet it yesterday, too.

• 1:22:38Speaker 04

  I hate this. Okay.

• 1:22:41David Imel?

  I wanna be where the people are.

• 1:22:43Speaker 04

  And, um, man, we did just have our first viral Blue Sky moment, too, with the bus hijacking. Oh, I for- what? Mariah's like, what? Okay.

• 1:22:56Andrew Manganelli?

  Clearly wasn't viral enough.

• 1:22:58David Imel?

  I feel like there's a lot of words happening. Shouldn't be so many words.

• 1:23:01Speaker 03

  Girl, I need a number.

• 1:23:04Speaker 04

  Well, I feel like it could be a three, because you've already used four. And I feel like it could be a five, because we've already used six. And I don't think it's seven.

• 1:23:17Speaker 03

  Please lock in your number.

• 1:23:19Speaker 04

  Three. My man!

• 1:23:22David Imel?

  Wow. Hey, Blue Sky is more popular than three.

• 1:23:25Andrew Manganelli?

  Numbers, I'm literally just pressing a button in front of me.

• 1:23:28David Imel?

  You said the possibility of going viral?

• 1:23:30Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:30David Imel?

  Yeah. Because there are so few people on Blue Sky, everyone likes your post.

• 1:23:34Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, but that's Blue Sky viral, which is like...

• 1:23:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean mainstream viral. That's what I had to think on, like, terms of mainstream. But like, think of like, name a viral tweet.

• 1:23:43David Imel?

  Tweet?

• 1:23:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:23:44David Imel?

  There's so many.

• 1:23:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, name a viral skeet.

• 1:23:47Andrew Manganelli?

  One.

• 1:23:48Speaker 04

  Name one. Name a skeet that you saw that everybody saw that I'd be like, oh, I saw that.

• 1:23:52David Imel?

  Who's everybody?

• 1:23:53Speaker 04

  Exactly. The people who are terminally online or...

• 1:23:56Andrew Manganelli?

  David, I'm gonna send this to you now.

• 1:23:59David Imel?

  Lock in, bro.

• 1:23:59Andrew Manganelli?

  The clue has to be a smartphone. And it is on a scale of glad it's dead to wish it was back.

• 1:24:07Speaker 04

  Okay. That's a good one. That is good.

• 1:24:10David Imel?

  Glad it's dead is a one? Do we have the same opinion?

• 1:24:14David Imel?

  Glad it's dead is a one?

• 1:24:15Andrew Manganelli?

  I just sent you. Glad it's dead is a one, 10 is a wish it was back.

• 1:24:18David Imel?

  Oh, boy. Okay. Okay. So name a dead smartphone. Oh, man. A dead smartphone?

• 1:24:26Speaker 04

  They're all dead.

• 1:24:26Andrew Manganelli?

  In, in...

• 1:24:27David Imel?

  Okay.

• 1:24:28Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:28Speaker 04

  It's a phone.

• 1:24:29David Imel?

  Um, I'm gonna say

• 1:24:33David Imel?

  the...

• 1:24:35David Imel?

  I'm just gonna blurt out the first number that comes to my head. LGG7ThankQ. G7. That was the blood glucose one. That is a seven. Final answer. No.

• 1:24:48Andrew Manganelli?

  Let's go.

• 1:24:48David Imel?

  You wish that would come back?

• 1:24:50Andrew Manganelli?

  You want that back?

• 1:24:51David Imel?

  Me personally?

• 1:24:52Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:52Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:24:54David Imel?

  But he said seven is pretty high up there.

• 1:24:56Speaker 04

  But you think David wants it back?

• 1:24:58David Imel?

  I think David wants it. Damn.

• 1:25:01Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm glad you're right. You're wrong for all the right reasons.

• 1:25:04David Imel?

  Damn.

• 1:25:04Andrew Manganelli?

  It was a four. That's zero points.

• 1:25:06David Imel?

  A four.

• 1:25:06Speaker 04

  Ah, damn.

• 1:25:07David Imel?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:25:08Speaker 04

  Return of the four.

• 1:25:09David Imel?

  Okay. Seems like I know Marquez better than he knows me. Wow. All right, you know, we got, we're still good. We're still good. We gotta go. What's the score? Six to five?

• 1:25:17Speaker 04

  Adam and I don't even need the prompt. Adam, on three, let's say the same word.

• 1:25:20David Imel?

  One, two, three.

• 1:25:22Speaker 04

  Sandwiches. You said one? One was your word? Your word is one? That's a one.

• 1:25:28David Imel?

  It's the number.

• 1:25:28Speaker 04

  That's a word.

• 1:25:29Andrew Manganelli?

  Ellis.

• 1:25:30Speaker 04

  Ye.

• 1:25:31Andrew Manganelli?

  The clue is AI capabilities and or feature. So this is an AI feature. The scale is waste of water to necessity.

• 1:25:42Speaker 04

  What, uh, one is waste of water.

• 1:25:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Waste of water.

• 1:25:45David Imel?

  Ten is.

• 1:25:46Andrew Manganelli?

  A total necessity.

• 1:25:47Speaker 04

  It's gonna be AI over.

• 1:25:48Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:25:50Speaker 04

  Oh, wait, I have to look at the number.

• 1:25:52David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:52Speaker 04

  Right, right, right. That's, that's part of it.

• 1:25:53David Imel?

  Seven, Marquez.

• 1:25:55Speaker 04

  Okay, so ten is.

• 1:25:57David Imel?

  I need this.

• 1:25:57Speaker 04

  Ted is necessity.

• 1:25:58David Imel?

  Okay.

• 1:25:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:25:59Andrew Manganelli?

  Super useful.

• 1:26:00Speaker 04

  Look me in the eye. Look me in the eye right now. Look me in the eye. My Claude Pro subscription.

• 1:26:05David Imel?

  Oh, that's a...

• 1:26:07Speaker 04

  Look me in the eye. No, no, no, no, up here.

• 1:26:10Speaker 04

  You know.

• 1:26:10David Imel?

  That's a nine.

• 1:26:11Speaker 04

  Yep, it's a nine.

• 1:26:12David Imel?

  Yeah. Damn. He needs that.

• 1:26:14Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:26:16David Imel?

  Marquez, we need a lock in, bro. We need a lock in. Locked in.

• 1:26:19Speaker 01

  I still think you're using too many words, but that was incredible.

• 1:26:22Speaker 04

  I said, I used four words.

• 1:26:24Speaker 01

  You said, look me in the eye. Look me in the eye.

• 1:26:25David Imel?

  Look me in the eye.

• 1:26:27Speaker 04

  You got numbers up here?

• 1:26:28Speaker 01

  My Claude Pro subscription? Nope, stay up here. Stay up here.

• 1:26:32David Imel?

  Stay with me.

• 1:26:33Speaker 01

  Lock in. And they still got it. And that was sick, but that was a lot of words. I'm just saying.

• 1:26:38Speaker 04

  Fine, next time, next time I'll keep it really kosher, man.

• 1:26:41David Imel?

  Okay.

• 1:26:41Andrew Manganelli?

  Marquez, ready?

• 1:26:42David Imel?

  I'm ready. I do not need blood glucose.

• 1:26:44Andrew Manganelli?

  This is.

• 1:26:45David Imel?

  I really, it's not that important to me. It's not seven.

• 1:26:51Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, this is a, any, any tech product?

• 1:26:55David Imel?

  Any tech product.

• 1:26:56Andrew Manganelli?

  But we're judging the name from horrible to great, just the name of the product. So one is the worst name ever, 10 is a great name.

• 1:27:04David Imel?

  Okay, I can work with that. I'm not even gonna make a joke.

• 1:27:06Speaker 04

  You cooked on these, Andrew, these are good.

• 1:27:07David Imel?

  Yeah, these are good.

• 1:27:08Andrew Manganelli?

  Thank you.

• 1:27:08David Imel?

  I need a number. Yeah, waiting on the number. Okay.

• 1:27:15David Imel?

  He's thinking, he's thinking.

• 1:27:20David Imel?

  He's still thinking.

• 1:27:22Andrew Manganelli?

  Do it. Marcus, that's a lot of talking.

• 1:27:28David Imel?

  LGG5.

• 1:27:32David Imel?

  Okay, that's like pretty damn simple.

• 1:27:40David Imel?

  Could this be, could it be? No.

• 1:27:45Andrew Manganelli?

  No way.

• 1:27:45David Imel?

  I'm gonna say.

• 1:27:47Speaker 04

  You should look him in the eyes. It works.

• 1:27:50David Imel?

  God, we gotta lock.

• 1:27:51Andrew Manganelli?

  It does work.

• 1:27:51David Imel?

  We gotta lock in, bro. G5 specifically. Interesting. Oh, this is so terrible. I'm like between two.

• 1:28:01David Imel?

  10.

• 1:28:04Speaker 03

  Is that your final answer?

• 1:28:07Speaker 03

  Lock in.

• 1:28:08David Imel?

  10 is good, right? 10 is like, this name's amazing.

• 1:28:11Speaker 01

  Greatest name of all time.

• 1:28:12David Imel?

  Yeah, I mean, that's how they should be.

• 1:28:14Speaker 03

  And that's.

• 1:28:15David Imel?

  It is iPhone 17, right? What? Wait, what? Where did you get that? No, I'm just saying, like, the, it just, line number.

• 1:28:25Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:31David Imel?

  What was it?

• 1:28:32Speaker 01

  Can I say what number was supposed to be?

• 1:28:33David Imel?

  Well, yeah. It was five.

• 1:28:37Speaker 04

  It's fine.

• 1:28:37David Imel?

  It's fine.

• 1:28:38Andrew Manganelli?

  I also realized you put five in the name.

• 1:28:40David Imel?

  No, that's what I got.

• 1:28:41Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:41David Imel?

  Yeah, that was a pretty good hint. Yeah, that was the hint.

• 1:28:43Andrew Manganelli?

  I thought of that and somehow skipped that on this question.

• 1:28:47David Imel?

  How could it be better? It's the G line and it's the fifth one.

• 1:28:50Speaker 01

  I was, I, what crossed my mind was like, great names, iconic names, Moto X.

• 1:28:55David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:55Speaker 01

  Is a really good name.

• 1:28:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, but then they said to call it Moto X second generation.

• 1:29:01Speaker 01

  Well, no, but like the original, that would have been like a really high number. Or. Great use of the air horn. As bad as it is, the humane AI pin is like a good name. Good name.

• 1:29:14Speaker 04

  It's like a second generation.

• 1:29:17Speaker 01

  I just. There was no second. The pin too. Anyway. I mean, would you consider the iPhone seventeen bad product naming? The seventeen specifically? No. But letting you the iPhone. I think that's fairly standard. Really? Fairly standard. I mean, it's standard, but it's good, right? No, but it's not like the iPhone stinky butt, you know, like. Yeah. Like, it's not like a bad.

• 1:29:35Speaker 04

  Well, this was a good game, Andrew. Who won?

• 1:29:37Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 1:29:38Andrew Manganelli?

  All right, Adam, your turn. The clue is an internet meme and the scale is never thought it was funny to laugh every time I see it.

• 1:29:48Speaker 04

  So ten is laugh every time I see it.

• 1:29:49Andrew Manganelli?

  Yes.

• 1:29:49Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:29:52Speaker 01

  I know. Ellis has very specific. This is gonna be crazy. No, no, but I know all of the memes that.

• 1:29:57Speaker 04

  That's the thing. I don't, but I don't know many memes, so this is gonna be hard.

• 1:30:01Speaker 01

  I know all the memes you know.

• 1:30:02Speaker 04

  Your library.

• 1:30:03Andrew Manganelli?

  I've placed gifts in Slack more than anyone.

• 1:30:05Speaker 04

  That's because I'm a millennial, not because I know the memes.

• 1:30:08Speaker 01

  Gifts are not funny. Watch. Like to formalize a protest on how many words are being used. You're Yokech and I'm Aaron Gordon right now. You can't miss. They don't know.

• 1:30:16Speaker 04

  Oh, my God. Okay, wait.

• 1:30:20Speaker 04

  Okay, I'm gonna go with Nick Young meme with the question marks.

• 1:30:25Speaker 01

  Nick Young?

• 1:30:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:30:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, I see the like.

• 1:30:27Speaker 04

  No, no, no, with the three, with the, with the question.

• 1:30:30Speaker 01

  That one? I've seen that one. Adam, for you, that's like an eight. That's the final answer. Yeah, that's my answer.

• 1:30:35Speaker 03

  Are you locking in?

• 1:30:36Speaker 01

  Yes. Yeah.

• 1:30:37Speaker 03

  You're unbelievable.

• 1:30:40Andrew Manganelli?

  What the? What the?

• 1:30:43Speaker 04

  Eights, baby. Okay, I'm actually gonna ask you guys now to follow the rules. I'm actually gonna ask. I saw, I heard a lot of NBA references, a lot of other words being used. That could have been a clue. What's his jersey number? I think it's an eight.

• 1:30:57Speaker 01

  I think you should just. Is his number an eight?

• 1:31:01Andrew Manganelli?

  Marquez is mad that you might be cheating, but for his number five, he used the LGG five, hoping to just guess the five.

• 1:31:08Speaker 01

  But I almost said two. No, no, no. That one, Marquez, next time, it's. Just. Poker face. Just get the clue. But also, like, like, you know, Adam and I edit this podcast concurrently, right? So like, we don't know what the other person did until we're both done. And so every week, Adam and I play this game. Like, I get to, I get to a point and I'm like, how would Adam edit this? And I know. That's fair.

• 1:31:34David Imel?

  No, the brain meld was already crazy before this. So I'm, I'm not shocked we're not doing as well as. It's like, we're an electric car and they're a gas car. We pulled ahead at the beginning, but then they eventually took over.

• 1:31:44Speaker 03

  I need you guys to lock in.

• 1:31:47Speaker 01

  All right, David, David.

• 1:31:48David Imel?

  All right.

• 1:31:49Speaker 01

  David, David.

• 1:31:50David Imel?

  Come on.

• 1:31:51Andrew Manganelli?

  All right, here, David, do you want a phone one? Or do you want a?

• 1:31:55Speaker 04

  Don't give, no, no, no, no, don't have pity on them. Give them.

• 1:31:58David Imel?

  Let me use 70 words there.

• 1:32:00Speaker 04

  Let's make it a game.

• 1:32:02Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, cool. Then this is the.

• 1:32:04David Imel?

  Phone one.

• 1:32:04Andrew Manganelli?

  No, I'm not gonna do the phone one.

• 1:32:05David Imel?

  No.

• 1:32:06Andrew Manganelli?

  This one is.

• 1:32:07David Imel?

  That Marquez will get.

• 1:32:08Andrew Manganelli?

  The clue has to be a video game?

• 1:32:10David Imel?

  Marquez is not gonna get this.

• 1:32:12Andrew Manganelli?

  And the category is least likely for Marquez to play and most likely for Marquez to play.

• 1:32:17David Imel?

  But he. There's only one answer.

• 1:32:19Speaker 04

  No, Marquez has talked about the games he's played on this podcast. Why am I talking?

• 1:32:23David Imel?

  It's up to you, David, to know that scale in Marquez's head.

• 1:32:26Speaker 01

  I do know that. Okay.

• 1:32:31Speaker 01

  Backyard baseball.

• 1:32:34Speaker 04

  Oh, that's a good one.

• 1:32:35Speaker 01

  Okay. I mean, I'm a big fan of backyard baseball. I played a lot of backyard basketball. That would be, that would be a 10 for me. I've also worn.

• 1:32:45David Imel?

  Well, there's a lot of words happening, a lot of words happening.

• 1:32:48Speaker 01

  New giver is the limited person. I'm saying nine.

• 1:32:52Speaker 04

  Let's go.

• 1:32:53David Imel?

  Damn. It's a nine.

• 1:32:54Speaker 04

  Was it a nine? Nice, nice, see, see? Let's go, we're back. We're back.

• 1:32:58David Imel?

  We're actually not. We're not.

• 1:33:00Speaker 04

  No, I think you are.

• 1:33:01David Imel?

  We just nailed that.

• 1:33:02Andrew Manganelli?

  Or that was pretty good.

• 1:33:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, by one.

• 1:33:04Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:33:04Andrew Manganelli?

  I thought about that one in my head and I thought 10 would have been 2K. Nine would have been racing and then like.

• 1:33:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:33:12David Imel?

  Just.

• 1:33:12Andrew Manganelli?

  So yeah.

• 1:33:12David Imel?

  I was envisioning like the games you play on camera, like Fortnite, that you don't actually play.

• 1:33:18Andrew Manganelli?

  I was wondering if you would count Wordle because Wordle would be 10.

• 1:33:21David Imel?

  That would be a 10. Yeah, that would have been easy. No, backyard baseball was a good one. That was a great solid. Great clue.

• 1:33:26Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:33:26David Imel?

  Well, all right, good game. We can end it now.

• 1:33:29Speaker 04

  No, I gotta, I gotta prove I can still do this circuit.

• 1:33:33Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah. This is Ellis, right?

• 1:33:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, this is, this is me.

• 1:33:35Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, so I have. Any tech product is the clue you have to give, and it is on a scale of not throwable to super throwable.

• 1:33:45Speaker 04

  Not throw.

• 1:33:46Andrew Manganelli?

  Physically, physically throwable.

• 1:33:50Speaker 04

  10 is physically, is like.

• 1:33:51Andrew Manganelli?

  It's like it would go the furthest if you threw it.

• 1:33:54David Imel?

  Vision Pro.

• 1:33:55Speaker 04

  Who's throwing it?

• 1:33:56Andrew Manganelli?

  No, hold on, I didn't send it, I just sent it. Oh, that was the last one. Yeah, that was just.

• 1:34:00David Imel?

  Not throwable to throw.

• 1:34:01Speaker 04

  Who, who's throwing this device? Is it like Ellis or is it Marquez?

• 1:34:05Andrew Manganelli?

  Can't answer that question.

• 1:34:06Speaker 04

  I'm asking you.

• 1:34:07Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh, I don't know.

• 1:34:08Speaker 04

  So just in general, someone throwing this device.

• 1:34:11Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:12Speaker 04

  All right.

• 1:34:19Speaker 04

  I have a 10% chance of just guessing this right.

• 1:34:26David Imel?

  They're locking in.

• 1:34:27Speaker 04

  iPad mini. I'm going 10. Damn.

• 1:34:32Speaker 04

  Maybe it was the banner.

• 1:34:34Speaker 04

  It was seven. I figured like it was slightly less throwable than a phone, but it had the.

• 1:34:38David Imel?

  Marquez, we got an opportunity here.

• 1:34:39Speaker 04

  Yes, we do.

• 1:34:40David Imel?

  We just gotta get one to tie.

• 1:34:41Speaker 04

  Hell, yeah.

• 1:34:41Speaker 03

  You guys have to be nervous.

• 1:34:44Speaker 01

  I thought they were gonna nail it again, to be honest.

• 1:34:46Speaker 04

  I was gonna guess eight or 10, and I went.

• 1:34:49David Imel?

  Seven is all good, brother.

• 1:34:50Speaker 01

  I was gonna say Canon C300, but it has a handle, which I think would make you go like nine or 10. So I would pick something without a handle.

• 1:34:56Speaker 04

  Well, I was thinking just size in general.

• 1:34:59Andrew Manganelli?

  Ball size.

• 1:35:00Speaker 04

  Also, like, what's the, the, the Olympic sport where you spin around? Yeah.

• 1:35:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:35:05Speaker 04

  I was also thinking iPad mini would be like a good frisbee thing to. Yeah, that's, that's what I was thinking, like seven, you know, but it wouldn't go as far as just like chucking.

• 1:35:12David Imel?

  As an iPad Pro.

• 1:35:13Speaker 04

  Like an Apple Watch or something.

• 1:35:14Speaker 01

  What's an actual 10?

• 1:35:15Speaker 04

  An Apple Watch. Dude, this.

• 1:35:16David Imel?

  This is like. The phone is kind of the most.

• 1:35:19Speaker 01

  Fits your hand.

• 1:35:20David Imel?

  It's dense enough.

• 1:35:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:35:21Speaker 03

  Humane pin. Perfect 10.

• 1:35:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, oh, actually, yeah, because the weight, no, you'd want some.

• 1:35:26Speaker 01

  A little bit of weight.

• 1:35:28David Imel?

  Fits in your hand entirely. It's got to fit in your hand to be a 10.

• 1:35:30Speaker 04

  True.

• 1:35:31David Imel?

  Like an AirPod is not very throwable.

• 1:35:32Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 1:35:33Speaker 01

  What could be thrown farther? An AirPod or?

• 1:35:35Speaker 04

  AirPod case.

• 1:35:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, AirPod's in the case.

• 1:35:37David Imel?

  Yeah, in the case.

• 1:35:38Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah. All right.

• 1:35:39Speaker 01

  Let's find out. This is a short.

• 1:35:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:35:42David Imel?

  What's more throwable?

• 1:35:43Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, it's Adam's turn, right?

• 1:35:46David Imel?

  No.

• 1:35:46Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:35:46David Imel?

  My turn?

• 1:35:47Speaker 04

  It's our turn.

• 1:35:48Andrew Manganelli?

  It's Marquez's turn.

• 1:35:49Speaker 01

  Yes, for the tie.

• 1:35:50Andrew Manganelli?

  Do for the tie, yes.

• 1:35:52Speaker 01

  Let's go.

• 1:35:52Andrew Manganelli?

  Let's do, the clue has to be a camera.

• 1:35:54David Imel?

  Okay.

• 1:35:55Andrew Manganelli?

  One is overprocessed, 10 is natural.

• 1:35:59Speaker 04

  Oh, this is, there are a million layers of gray here. I love this.

• 1:36:03Speaker 01

  One is overprocessed, 10 is natural. Waiting for a number. Got my number.

• 1:36:07David Imel?

  One million shades of gray.

• 1:36:10Speaker 01

  This is a good one for this team.

• 1:36:11Speaker 04

  Hmm, yeah.

• 1:36:14David Imel?

  So.

• 1:36:14Speaker 04

  I think knowing all.

• 1:36:16David Imel?

  Overprocessed, okay.

• 1:36:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, knowing all the cameras, the way that you guys both do, might be a detriment in this situation.

• 1:36:22David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's so many choices.

• 1:36:25David Imel?

  An iPhone 5S. 5S?

• 1:36:28Speaker 04

  Whoa, that's so specific.

• 1:36:31David Imel?

  Whoa.

• 1:36:34David Imel?

  Gosh.

• 1:36:35Speaker 04

  Natural?

• 1:36:36David Imel?

  Natural. All cameras.

• 1:36:40Speaker 04

  It's a lot of words, Marquez.

• 1:36:41David Imel?

  Wow, wow. I mean.

• 1:36:45David Imel?

  10. 10 is my final answer.

• 1:36:47Speaker 03

  Your final answer?

• 1:36:48David Imel?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:36:48Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:36:51David Imel?

  Fuck.

• 1:36:52Andrew Manganelli?

  All cameras, 10?

• 1:36:54David Imel?

  What do you mean all cameras?

• 1:36:55Speaker 04

  Like most natural.

• 1:36:56Andrew Manganelli?

  Camera, you think all? Like it's more natural than like.

• 1:36:59David Imel?

  Oh, compared to other? It is.

• 1:37:02Speaker 04

  Then like.

• 1:37:03David Imel?

  It has less processing for the JPGs, yeah.

• 1:37:06Speaker 04

  What about your like film cameras?

• 1:37:09David Imel?

  Well, film is processed by the compute, like it's different, like, but the 5S hadn't even introduced like HDR or anything.

• 1:37:15Speaker 01

  That's, no, no, the, the 4S, you could toggle HDR on or off.

• 1:37:22Speaker 04

  That's what I mean. They knew too much.

• 1:37:23Andrew Manganelli?

  It was a 3.

• 1:37:24David Imel?

  It was a 3. I was trying to get you to say 3.

• 1:37:29Speaker 01

  I was thinking if I if I got a high number.

• 1:37:32David Imel?

  Processing to phones.

• 1:37:33Speaker 01

  If I got a high number, I would have said something like a a film camera or a DSLR, where there's very little processing, like post-processing especially. But if I wanted a low number, I would go smartphone. Like a one is a modern day smartphone.

• 1:37:48David Imel?

  Yeah, iPhone.

• 1:37:48Speaker 01

  But like an older smartphone, maybe like an iPhone 5S is more like a three or a four. That's where I was thinking.

• 1:37:54David Imel?

  They didn't have computational photography when the 5S was out.

• 1:37:57Andrew Manganelli?

  So do we just want to do wrap it up on the last two questions for each team?

• 1:38:02Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:38:02Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, the the clue needs to be a tech product, any tech product, and it's on a scale of we need less of and we need more of.

• 1:38:10Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. What's the number? Waiting on the number.

• 1:38:14Andrew Manganelli?

  It is.

• 1:38:16Speaker 07

  I'm starting the countdown before.

• 1:38:17Speaker 01

  We need more AI products.

• 1:38:20Speaker 01

  Okay, so 10 is we need more of this, right?

• 1:38:23Andrew Manganelli?

  Yes.

• 1:38:23Speaker 01

  And one is we need less.

• 1:38:25Andrew Manganelli?

  We need less.

• 1:38:26Speaker 01

  Okay. I'm clarifying those for myself.

• 1:38:39Speaker 01

  Mastodon.

• 1:38:43Speaker 01

  Damn, you and I would answer this question completely opposite. And I don't know if you're going with me or if we're going with you. That's tough. I'm gonna go.

• 1:38:58Speaker 01

  Look at me. Yeah.

• 1:39:05Speaker 03

  What's your gut reaction, Ellis?

• 1:39:06Speaker 01

  My gut reaction is one.

• 1:39:11Speaker 03

  And is that your final answer?

• 1:39:12Speaker 01

  I only do the final answers. That's right.

• 1:39:14Speaker 03

  Great, well, that's great.

• 1:39:16Speaker 01

  There we go. Completely off.

• 1:39:17David Imel?

  You should have.

• 1:39:18Speaker 01

  The complete opposite.

• 1:39:20David Imel?

  I knew it was one of those.

• 1:39:21Speaker 01

  Okay, so Mark has, we have a chance to tie.

• 1:39:23David Imel?

  Yes.

• 1:39:23Speaker 01

  And two chances to beat them.

• 1:39:25David Imel?

  Yes, we can win.

• 1:39:25Speaker 01

  No, the number was 10.

• 1:39:26David Imel?

  This is our chance.

• 1:39:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, if we get a one, we tie.

• 1:39:29Andrew Manganelli?

  No, no, actually.

• 1:39:30Speaker 01

  If you get a one, you win, I think.

• 1:39:32Andrew Manganelli?

  No.

• 1:39:32Speaker 01

  No, we're one behind you.

• 1:39:34Andrew Manganelli?

  Are you sure?

• 1:39:34Speaker 01

  They're one point.

• 1:39:35Andrew Manganelli?

  According to my notes, I have you've gotten two on the dot.

• 1:39:39Speaker 01

  Two on the dot.

• 1:39:39Andrew Manganelli?

  And they've gotten three on the dot plus a one pointer.

• 1:39:42Speaker 01

  They have three on the dot? Yeah, we did. They got two on the dot.

• 1:39:45Andrew Manganelli?

  It was crazy. They went on a.

• 1:39:47Speaker 01

  Dude, it was a generational.

• 1:39:48David Imel?

  Really?

• 1:39:49Speaker 01

  Did they really get three on the dot?

• 1:39:50Andrew Manganelli?

  I believe so.

• 1:39:51Speaker 01

  Alright, well, we can make this a respectable game.

• 1:39:54David Imel?

  Yeah, I'd rather lose by one than...

• 1:39:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:39:56David Imel?

  Wait, can we just say, if we get this correct, we win?

• 1:40:00Andrew Manganelli?

  No.

• 1:40:02Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:40:02Andrew Manganelli?

  If you maybe if we get this right, we tie and we can do one more each.

• 1:40:06Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:40:06Andrew Manganelli?

  Maybe we would have won.

• 1:40:09Andrew Manganelli?

  Let's see if we get it right first and then...

• 1:40:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay.

• 1:40:12Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay.

• 1:40:12Speaker 01

  So you're sending me the number?

• 1:40:14Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm sending you the number.

• 1:40:15Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 1:40:15Andrew Manganelli?

  The clue needs to be a smartphone. One is cheapest phone possible. Ten is literally the most expensive phone possible.

• 1:40:24Speaker 01

  Okay, interesting.

• 1:40:27David Imel?

  The most expensive.

• 1:40:27Andrew Manganelli?

  Sorry, I'm sending it.

• 1:40:28Speaker 01

  I'm gonna take this so literally.

• 1:40:29Andrew Manganelli?

  Find all of you.

• 1:40:30Speaker 01

  On Slack, yeah.

• 1:40:33David Imel?

  I think I know the most expensive.

• 1:40:35Speaker 01

  Uh, I figured it was gonna be this. That's a really tough one, cuz like... Possible.

• 1:40:40David Imel?

  It's a long tail.

• 1:40:41Speaker 01

  Alright. A long tail. And there's a lot of things that maybe don't count as phones. I'm gonna start. How about the Pixel 10? Okay. Now, I'm gonna think out loud.

• 1:40:51David Imel?

  Okay.

• 1:40:51Speaker 01

  So, a 10 would have been a caviar of something crazy. A 1 would be the like $2 track phone or something.

• 1:40:58David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:59Speaker 01

  Okay, so Pixel 10, the base Pixel 10, was a little bit overpriced for what it was because it was the 128 gig for $7.99, I believe. And then we had that iPhone come out for $7.99, which was $2.56. So I thought the iPhone was a good deal.

• 1:41:15David Imel?

  Can I say other things or no?

• 1:41:16Speaker 01

  No. The Pixel, I'm thinking, don't worry, I got this.

• 1:41:19David Imel?

  Okay.

• 1:41:19Speaker 01

  So the Pixel is a little bit overpriced relative to the iPhone, but in the grand scale of all phones, all phones, 10 being the $50,000 caviar and 1 being the $2 track phone, I think the Pixel 10 is a solid...

• 1:41:40Speaker 04

  Five.

• 1:41:41Speaker 01

  Yes. God.

• 1:41:42Speaker 04

  We're cooked.

• 1:41:43Speaker 03

  Locked in.

• 1:41:44David Imel?

  Locked in. Okay, we need to.

• 1:41:45Speaker 01

  His right.

• 1:41:46Speaker 04

  As we're mapping it out, I was like, he's gonna get this.

• 1:41:48Andrew Manganelli?

  Well, no, I, the way I knew the number, everything he was saying was like, they're not getting this. Cause it sounded like he was, David even thought there was.

• 1:41:56David Imel?

  The iPhone, I was like, no.

• 1:41:58Andrew Manganelli?

  David immediately was like, I've lost this one. And then he, and then I saw him like now.

• 1:42:02Speaker 04

  The moment his hands went like this, I was like, oh, he's going right down the middle.

• 1:42:05David Imel?

  Yeah. Yeah, baby. Eight ninety-nine. That was correct. Yeah, those clutch.

• 1:42:09Speaker 04

  Cause so what's the score?

• 1:42:10David Imel?

  Still considered a nine ninety-nine like expensive, even though it's kind of basically the price of every pro phone now. Yeah. So seven ninety-nine is kind of right in the middle, I'd say, or eight ninety-nine, whatever it is.

• 1:42:20Speaker 04

  Generational run.

• 1:42:20Andrew Manganelli?

  One more each. You can pick who wants to be the clue giver per team. And we'll just make it whoever gets the closest.

• 1:42:27Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:42:27Andrew Manganelli?

  If you guys tie again, then.

• 1:42:29Speaker 04

  Then we're done.

• 1:42:29Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:30Speaker 04

  I have.

• 1:42:30David Imel?

  I think.

• 1:42:31Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:31Speaker 04

  We gotta do trivia.

• 1:42:32David Imel?

  Data wise, I've, the num, when I get the number, we get it right more often. Okay. I'm fine with that. I think. Do you give a clue? Yeah. Alright. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I like it.

• 1:42:44Andrew Manganelli?

  So David's going first or, or you two can?

• 1:42:46David Imel?

  No, you should let them go first because, uh, I just went.

• 1:42:50Speaker 04

  I'll give the hint. You'll give the hint? Yeah, I'll give the hint. I think you're better at guessing than I am. Okay, cool. This time I'm gonna look deep into your soul and not mine. Deep into my soul, not Marquez's, deep into my soul.

• 1:43:02Andrew Manganelli?

  Adam, your, the clue you have to give is any type of tech product or feature. And one is least likely to come out in twenty twenty-six and ten is most likely to come out in twenty.

• 1:43:13Speaker 04

  Okay, okay.

• 1:43:14David Imel?

  Live translate.

• 1:43:15Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, we're talking.

• 1:43:15Speaker 04

  Let's go. So ten is most likely to come out?

• 1:43:19Andrew Manganelli?

  Yes.

• 1:43:19Speaker 04

  Okay. Waiting on the number. Oh, God.

• 1:43:24David Imel?

  Okay.

• 1:43:27Speaker 04

  Most likely. Most likely to come out is ten. Yeah.

• 1:43:42Speaker 04

  Ellis locked in so hard, he's out of focus right now. The camera was stealing my focus. I had to get it back.

• 1:43:50Speaker 01

  Pixel 11 mini.

• 1:43:53Speaker 04

  Dude, that's like, Pixel 11 mini? In 2026?

• 1:43:57Speaker 01

  Would you switch, by the way, Ellis?

• 1:43:59Speaker 04

  2026, did I switch what?

• 1:44:00Speaker 01

  No, would you switch?

• 1:44:01Speaker 04

  To Pixel if they put out a mini?

• 1:44:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:44:05Speaker 04

  That's like a 3.

• 1:44:09Speaker 03

  You're locking in.

• 1:44:13Speaker 04

  Damn! You think a Pixel mini is coming out in 2026?

• 1:44:18Speaker 01

  There was a rumor about it.

• 1:44:19Andrew Manganelli?

  I actually think that's a good, I think that's a great.

• 1:44:21Speaker 04

  It was 6. The number was 6.

• 1:44:23Speaker 01

  It's like, it seems like very unlikely, but someone made a video about maybe it happening for some reason. So it's like, probably not.

• 1:44:28Andrew Manganelli?

  It's a tough one, or I would think like, if the like, the new rabbit comes out, there's like, maybe.

• 1:44:32Speaker 04

  I was hoping you were gonna say some sort of robot.

• 1:44:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, what would you say for 6? That's a hard.

• 1:44:37Speaker 04

  6 is tough.

• 1:44:38Andrew Manganelli?

  I think like, like, what's the new rabbit 3 in 1? Like, there's maybe some murmurings about it.

• 1:44:44Speaker 01

  Rabbit 3 in 1?

• 1:44:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:45Speaker 04

  I was trying to think of something that's definitely coming out, and then a new version of it.

• 1:44:48Andrew Manganelli?

  All of these are so easy to do 1 in 10.

• 1:44:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:44:51Andrew Manganelli?

  It gets really tough.

• 1:44:52Speaker 01

  The problem is like, we know what's probably gonna come out, and that's just 10s, and then we know it's not coming out, which is 1s.

• 1:44:57Speaker 04

  How would a Pixel mini come out? Like, like, what would they like, switch to silicon carbon?

• 1:45:01Andrew Manganelli?

  Google would announce a smaller Pixel.

• 1:45:04Speaker 04

  No, no, no, but like.

• 1:45:05Andrew Manganelli?

  They'd sell it in stores.

• 1:45:06Speaker 01

  It's tough to get anywhere inside of 1 in 10 for this one. Like, we know it's not coming out, but like, what's a?

• 1:45:12Speaker 04

  I think it would be easier for them to release like, an 11 plus, and then rebrand the regular 11 as a mini.

• 1:45:18Speaker 01

  Plus is a 6. Cause mini phones don't sell, and everyone knows it, but a plus is like, Google trying some [BLEEP], you know?

• 1:45:25Speaker 04

  Yeah. I was gonna say iPhone mini, but that would be like, 2.

• 1:45:28Speaker 01

  That would be not, yeah.

• 1:45:29Speaker 04

  That'd be a 2.

• 1:45:29Speaker 01

  Asus, stop selling the mini. David, we have a chance to do something hilarious, right?

• 1:45:32Speaker 04

  Sorry, I fail us. Lose. This gets thrown away right here.

• 1:45:36Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, this is, the clue you have to give is any tech product, it is.

• 1:45:39Speaker 01

  Shit.

• 1:45:41Andrew Manganelli?

  Definitely vaporware to bestseller.

• 1:45:43Speaker 01

  Same, same number?

• 1:45:45Andrew Manganelli?

  Uh, no. Uh, let me pick another number.

• 1:45:47Speaker 01

  Okay, okay. 1, definitely vaporware. 10, bestseller. Got it.

• 1:45:52Speaker 04

  Damn. That's a...

• 1:45:56Speaker 01

  Hmm. Okay.

• 1:46:01Speaker 01

  They best seller. Vaporware and best seller are kind of different things.

• 1:46:07Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:08Speaker 01

  They are kind of, no, but like, honestly? No, no, no.

• 1:46:12Andrew Manganelli?

  But it's like, dude, you know, something that like, we don't think is ever going to come out to something that is like.

• 1:46:17Speaker 01

  Obviously coming out are gonna sell. Not to throw a wrench in this, but in 2026, they can be the same thing. Like plenty of, there are plenty of products, almost thousands of people buy them and they never come. Yes.

• 1:46:31David Imel?

  But the man's.

• 1:46:32Speaker 01

  It's just like a gaseous cloud.

• 1:46:33Andrew Manganelli?

  You know what I mean though? You mean like sold tons of units.

• 1:46:37Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:46:37Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:38Speaker 01

  I'm gonna say. Ugh.

• 1:46:46David Imel?

  Don't know what that.

• 1:46:49Speaker 01

  Rabbit R1. Rabbit R1. Wow. Okay. Damn, that's a good one. Alright, so it's not vaporware. But it is very little sales. But actually kind of more sales than the humane pin. Humane pin flopped so, so hard because it was 800 bucks. The rabbit actually sold like a lot because it was cheap, even though it was close to vaporware. So I'm going under five, but over two. So I'm gonna go. I'm in, I'm between three and four. Rabbit R1 Vapor 2 Sales is a three. It was a four. Oh, thank God. But. Let's go. We were close, so we.

• 1:47:31Andrew Manganelli?

  That was still closer if we're just counting the last.

• 1:47:33Speaker 01

  We won the tie break. Yeah.

• 1:47:34Andrew Manganelli?

  You won the tie break when it was never tied in the first place, so I'll let the audience decide who was the winner of that game.

• 1:47:40Speaker 01

  Really out of it all has got. Yeah, the mind meld was crazy. But that was, I was like, so close. Yeah, because I was thinking, it's kind of vaporware in terms of what it delivers, but it did sell a decent amount of them because they were cheap enough. Right. So. The features were vaporware. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. That was good. Okay. Cool. Guys, earlier this episode, I foisted a trivia question upon you guys. Which means it is time to answer it. Hit it.

• 1:48:06David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:07Speaker 01

  I have a red marker now. Feels good. Trivia time. Yeah, I swapped them out when you weren't looking. Guys.

• 1:48:12David Imel?

  Did we get the second trivia question asked already?

• 1:48:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:48:15David Imel?

  What was it about?

• 1:48:16Speaker 01

  The Samsung product.

• 1:48:17David Imel?

  I don't know.

• 1:48:18Speaker 01

  What about it?

• 1:48:19David Imel?

  What was it?

• 1:48:19Speaker 01

  Everything like bulldozers? What was it?

• 1:48:21David Imel?

  Oh, yeah. Okay, sorry.

• 1:48:23Speaker 01

  So guys, Apple names all its chips after letters. I guess maybe not all of them, but all the ones that I know of are named after letters.

• 1:48:33Speaker 01

  You're gonna cut that, right?

• 1:48:35Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:48:38Speaker 01

  Apple names all its chips after letters. I thought of this because AirTag just came out, uses the U1 or U2 or whatever it is. So whoever can give me the longest word that only uses letters present in Apple chips gets this point.

• 1:48:53Andrew Manganelli?

  Can I make a request? No plurals.

• 1:48:56Speaker 01

  You couldn't do a plural.

• 1:48:59Speaker 01

  There is, there's an S chip? That's.

• 1:49:01Speaker 03

  Girl, you made the question.

• 1:49:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:49:04Speaker 01

  Which one's the S chip?

• 1:49:05Andrew Manganelli?

  Do you, we were.

• 1:49:06David Imel?

  The S5 chip.

• 1:49:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, but what does it do?

• 1:49:09David Imel?

  The S1.

• 1:49:10Andrew Manganelli?

  Who cares?

• 1:49:10David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:11Andrew Manganelli?

  It's a letter.

• 1:49:11David Imel?

  Yeah, the S2.

• 1:49:12Speaker 01

  It's the Apple. No, in that case, plurals are totally allowed.

• 1:49:15David Imel?

  The S2.

• 1:49:15Andrew Manganelli?

  They're allowed?

• 1:49:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:49:16David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:17Andrew Manganelli?

  It's just a free one for.

• 1:49:18Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:49:20David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:20Speaker 01

  Who doesn't love free?

• 1:49:21David Imel?

  Well, but it's even.

• 1:49:22Speaker 01

  I live in Zorin, Maldonys, New York. I love free.

• 1:49:25David Imel?

  That's right, baby.

• 1:49:27Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:49:29David Imel?

  Come. Cut.

• 1:49:32Speaker 01

  No pressure, but there's music playing and the music is a timer.

• 1:49:36Speaker 03

  This was a really difficult question.

• 1:49:39Speaker 01

  I think they got this.

• 1:49:40Speaker 03

  I would fail this immediately.

• 1:49:42Speaker 01

  I've already failed.

• 1:49:49David Imel?

  What if they don't have a word?

• 1:49:50Speaker 01

  I don't know if that's a word.

• 1:49:51Speaker 03

  They're gonna.

• 1:49:51David Imel?

  I wish there was an E. I wish there was an E.

• 1:49:54Speaker 01

  We can make. I can give you a hint.

• 1:49:55Speaker 03

  There's real words.

• 1:49:55Speaker 01

  The, I think the longest word that I saw on the internet was a kind of grape.

• 1:50:01Speaker 01

  That's not gonna help me. You guys don't know your grapes? A kind of grape.

• 1:50:05David Imel?

  Like the.

• 1:50:06Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm super interested here.

• 1:50:08David Imel?

  Yeah, okay.

• 1:50:09Andrew Manganelli?

  I have a lot written down, but I have my one answer.

• 1:50:11David Imel?

  I have. Pick your longest one.

• 1:50:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, who wants to go first? Who, who thinks they have the shortest?

• 1:50:16David Imel?

  I probably have the shortest one.

• 1:50:17Speaker 01

  David?

• 1:50:18David Imel?

  I wrote warts.

• 1:50:19Speaker 01

  That's pretty funny.

• 1:50:20David Imel?

  That's a good one.

• 1:50:21Speaker 01

  That's pretty good. That's five letters.

• 1:50:23David Imel?

  Five letters.

• 1:50:24Speaker 01

  That backwards is a word, too.

• 1:50:26David Imel?

  Straw.

• 1:50:30Speaker 01

  So there's two words right there.

• 1:50:34Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:50:34Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, did I get both?

• 1:50:35David Imel?

  I made an anagram.

• 1:50:36Andrew Manganelli?

  Is that good?

• 1:50:37David Imel?

  Oh, that's not an anagram.

• 1:50:38Andrew Manganelli?

  It's a palindrome.

• 1:50:40David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:40Andrew Manganelli?

  Palindrome.

• 1:50:41Speaker 03

  Okay, so five letters for David.

• 1:50:42Andrew Manganelli?

  Five letters for David. Way to go, David.

• 1:50:44David Imel?

  It's really ten.

• 1:50:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Isn't palindrome the same forward and backwards? Yes.

• 1:50:47David Imel?

  Yes.

• 1:50:48Andrew Manganelli?

  Yes.

• 1:50:48David Imel?

  So mine's an anagram.

• 1:50:49Andrew Manganelli?

  Gosh, you idiot.

• 1:50:51David Imel?

  Mine is an anagram.

• 1:50:51Speaker 03

  Right, Marquez, how?

• 1:50:52Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't even know my grapes.

• 1:50:53Speaker 01

  Uh, I remember a lot of things. I'm pretty sure untrust is a word.

• 1:50:57Andrew Manganelli?

  Oh.

• 1:50:58Speaker 01

  So I'm going with one, two, three, four.

• 1:50:59Andrew Manganelli?

  How do I?

• 1:51:00Speaker 01

  Seven letters.

• 1:51:01Andrew Manganelli?

  I did not think about this.

• 1:51:04Speaker 01

  Un-trust?

• 1:51:05Andrew Manganelli?

  I assumed we would all.

• 1:51:06Speaker 01

  Wouldn't it be untrustworthy?

• 1:51:07Andrew Manganelli?

  I don't know if, you'd be using it as a verb, right? Like, I used to trust you, and now I untrust you.

• 1:51:12Speaker 01

  Because it's tru- no, because it's trustworthy is a word, and then untrustworthy, un is the...

• 1:51:18Andrew Manganelli?

  But can you, can I untrust you?

• 1:51:20Speaker 01

  I don't know. I haven't Googled it. I just, that's my longer word. I have a bunch of six-letter words, but that's my seven-letter word.

• 1:51:25Speaker 04

  It is considered a Scrabble word, if we're going by Scrabble dictionary.

• 1:51:29Speaker 03

  Untrust is a noun on Merriam-Webster Dictionary.

• 1:51:32David Imel?

  A noun?

• 1:51:33Speaker 01

  A noun.

• 1:51:33David Imel?

  It's a thing?

• 1:51:34Speaker 01

  Like untrustables, like untrustables?

• 1:51:36Andrew Manganelli?

  I am betrothed with untrust.

• 1:51:38Speaker 01

  Oh, a trust, you could have an untr- wow.

• 1:51:40Speaker 03

  It has the most barren-looking page I've ever seen. And there's no information.

• 1:51:44David Imel?

  I just wrote it just now.

• 1:51:46Andrew Manganelli?

  On the anagram generator?

• 1:51:47Speaker 03

  It's not on the anagram generator.

• 1:51:49Andrew Manganelli?

  Wow. It's like truthiness.

• 1:51:51David Imel?

  Did I beat the system?

• 1:51:52Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, I think so. You know, and I also never said that you couldn't use a letter twice, which is why it didn't show up on the anagram. Oxford, Oxford English Dictionary says the word is now obsolete. Mariah, is it AI overview or not?

• 1:52:04Speaker 03

  It was, but now he's on another competing dictionary website.

• 1:52:10Andrew Manganelli?

  Okay, Andrew, let's, let's hear your word, and then we'll adjudicate it.

• 1:52:15David Imel?

  Let's hear your word.

• 1:52:17Speaker 01

  Is it longer than five?

• 1:52:17Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, I don't think I can name one.

• 1:52:19David Imel?

  Planet?

• 1:52:20Andrew Manganelli?

  Saturn. Oh!

• 1:52:24Speaker 01

  Wow, a planet.

• 1:52:26Andrew Manganelli?

  That's a good one.

• 1:52:27Speaker 03

  So David has five, Andrew has six, and Marquez, if the word is real, has seven.

• 1:52:32Speaker 01

  I have a bunch of other sixes that I crossed out to get the seven.

• 1:52:35Speaker 04

  Yeah. Ellis and Mariah should decide this, because they were the ones who asked the question.

• 1:52:38Andrew Manganelli?

  I'm leaning towards...

• 1:52:40Speaker 03

  I'm sweating right now.

• 1:52:41Andrew Manganelli?

  Yeah, of course you are. You're dressed like you live in an igloo.

• 1:52:47Speaker 04

  I'm inclined to give them both a point for this one.

• 1:52:50David Imel?

  I simply Googled untrust and it appears to be a word. It's also a movie title.

• 1:52:53Speaker 03

  I guess, yeah. Do we want to count using the same letter twice?

• 1:52:56Speaker 04

  It's a short film on IMDb. It's, I don't know, man.

• 1:53:00Speaker 03

  We didn't say he couldn't use the same letter twice.

• 1:53:02Speaker 04

  No, I did not say that.

• 1:53:03Speaker 03

  And I didn't either.

• 1:53:04Speaker 04

  Yeah. But, but, yeah, no, I think Marquez gets this one.

• 1:53:09David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:53:09Speaker 04

  Saturn is so good, bro. Saturn is really good.

• 1:53:12David Imel?

  Saturn is very good.

• 1:53:13Speaker 04

  You do know all the planets, man. You had other six.

• 1:53:15Andrew Manganelli?

  Wait, wait, what if I do Saturn's plural? You said I could plural it.

• 1:53:19David Imel?

  No, but it's Saturn's. No, but Saturn's what? That's not plural. That's a.

• 1:53:23Speaker 03

  That's a possessive.

• 1:53:25Speaker 04

  But you didn't write that down.

• 1:53:26Andrew Manganelli?

  Saturn's one of the planets that I do know.

• 1:53:27Speaker 04

  That's, that's an abbreviation. Untrusts, is that plural? I don't know. I guess, uh, I'll take it. I think the point. I think, yeah, I guess we have to go to Marquez. Fair's fair.

• 1:53:38David Imel?

  I would give it to Marquez.

• 1:53:39Speaker 04

  The grape I was thinking of was muscat. Okay. I didn't, the only type of grape I know is grape. You don't know conquered grape? No.

• 1:53:47Andrew Manganelli?

  Red, green.

• 1:53:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:53:49Andrew Manganelli?

  Hot and candy.

• 1:53:50Speaker 04

  Candy grape.

• 1:53:51David Imel?

  Cotton candy.

• 1:53:52Speaker 04

  And now you guys know a muscat grape. What is that?

• 1:53:55David Imel?

  Is that a wine grape?

• 1:53:56Speaker 04

  It's a grape they make wine out of. Yeah.

• 1:53:57David Imel?

  Okay, okay. Not so.

• 1:53:58Speaker 04

  I learned something new.

• 1:53:59David Imel?

  I'm a connoisseur.

• 1:54:00Speaker 04

  All right, next question. After that, what was supposed to be an easy?

• 1:54:06Speaker 04

  I need an eraser. Can I get a eraser?

• 1:54:09David Imel?

  Straw.

• 1:54:11Speaker 04

  Straw.

• 1:54:12David Imel?

  Straw.

• 1:54:14Speaker 03

  The way you said that, like.

• 1:54:16Speaker 04

  It's because when you read a word backwards, like.

• 1:54:18Speaker 03

  Like you've never heard it before.

• 1:54:19Speaker 04

  It's like, oh, oh, straw.

• 1:54:23Speaker 04

  Okay, so we spoke about Samsung before, but they do make.

• 1:54:27David Imel?

  Oh, the big ones.

• 1:54:28Speaker 04

  Besides displays and refrigerators and phones and all that stuff.

• 1:54:31David Imel?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:32Speaker 04

  They also make a thing with the name. Six.

• 1:54:38David Imel?

  Six.

• 1:54:39Speaker 04

  The Samsung SE130 LC dash two. What type of thing is it? I have not seen the answer to this question.

• 1:54:48David Imel?

  SE.

• 1:54:49Speaker 03

  Ellis, you can take a guess, too.

• 1:54:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, you can take a guess, too. Take a guess.

• 1:54:51David Imel?

  Saturn's.

• 1:54:52Speaker 04

  SE130 LC dash two. I will accept the like category of thing that it is.

• 1:54:57David Imel?

  Category?

• 1:54:58Speaker 04

  If you want, as well as actually what it is. I'll take both.

• 1:55:01Andrew Manganelli?

  Category, category has to be fairly specific.

• 1:55:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, it has to be specific. You can't be like. Yeah.

• 1:55:07David Imel?

  Household item.

• 1:55:08Andrew Manganelli?

  Household item.

• 1:55:08David Imel?

  Do you think it's like a?

• 1:55:10Andrew Manganelli?

  Worldly object.

• 1:55:13David Imel?

  Could it be a sink?

• 1:55:14Speaker 04

  Flipperman Reed, what do you got?

• 1:55:16David Imel?

  Lawnmower.

• 1:55:17Speaker 04

  Lawnmower?

• 1:55:18Speaker 01

  It's probably hoping it's a tank.

• 1:55:19Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:55:19Speaker 01

  Uh, I put excavator.

• 1:55:22Speaker 04

  Andrew, what'd you put?

• 1:55:23Andrew Manganelli?

  Microwave.

• 1:55:24David Imel?

  Probably microwave.

• 1:55:24Speaker 04

  It is, actually. Oh yeah, Ellis, what'd you put?

• 1:55:28Speaker 01

  What did David?

• 1:55:29David Imel?

  I put lawnmower.

• 1:55:31Speaker 01

  I think it's a bulldozer.

• 1:55:32Speaker 04

  A bulldozer, interesting.

• 1:55:33Andrew Manganelli?

  That's...

• 1:55:34Speaker 04

  You would've gotten a point, but Marquez actually gets the point, because it is actually an excavator. Excavator, I can't even say that word.

• 1:55:41Andrew Manganelli?

  There's no way.

• 1:55:41Speaker 04

  It is straight up a construction vehicle, specifically a crawler excavator.

• 1:55:46Andrew Manganelli?

  No way!

• 1:55:48David Imel?

  Let's go!

• 1:55:49Speaker 04

  That was a completely random guess. He said it earlier, and I was like, I really hope he guessed that.

• 1:55:54Speaker 01

  Dude, it's a completely random guess unless you hang on on Wikipedia and you know one of the largest subsidiaries of Samsung is Samsung Heavy Machines. You know, you could argue that a lawnmower excavates, uh...

• 1:56:07Speaker 04

  Grass.

• 1:56:07Speaker 01

  Grass. From the lawn. From the lawn. That's true, but you wouldn't call it an excavator. Yeah, I might. Well, it was just my cavator until it broke up with me.

• 1:56:18Speaker 01

  Jesus, I think that's where we end this podcast.

• 1:56:20Speaker 04

  That's pretty good.

• 1:56:21Speaker 01

  Uh, I'm very happy to end this pod on my most successful trivia run in recent memory.

• 1:56:27Speaker 04

  That's true. Want to know, baby?

• 1:56:29Speaker 01

  Very excited about the points. We'll do a score update on the screen, I'm sure, just to really lock that one in.

• 1:56:33David Imel?

  No forget, right?

• 1:56:33Speaker 01

  Uh, but yeah, thanks for, it's still January, that's crazy. Thanks for watching, thanks for listening, thanks for subscribing, and we'll see you very soon in February, my friends.

• 1:56:42David Imel?

  When it's even colder.

• 1:56:43Speaker 01

  Peace out.

• 1:56:44Andrew Manganelli?

  Wait, from us produced by Ademilina Ellis-Rovin and Mariah Zank. We're part of the Vox Media Podcast Network, and our outro music was created by Vane Sil.

• 1:56:50Speaker 04

  Bingo!

• 1:56:51David Imel?

  Let's go!

• 1:56:59Speaker 01

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• 1:57:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:57:03Speaker 01

  I know we were thinking OLED MacBook Pro and like them killing like other products and the folding iPhone, but this, this is what we were waiting for.

• 1:57:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, totally worth a meeting.

• 1:57:13Speaker 06

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• 1:57:33David Imel?

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