F1 Movie Review (No Spoilers); CarPlay Ultra Tested; Q&A

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• 0:00Matt Farah?

  What up everybody, welcome to the Smoking Tire Podcast. Today's episode is brought to you as always by Off the Record. We love Off the Record over here at Smoking Tire and you guys do too. That's why you're always sending me emails telling me how Off the Record got you out of a little jam. If you get pulled over and ticketed or arrested for a moving violation, don't plead guilty, get off the record. Go to offtherrecord.com/tst to get 10% off all legal services booked through Off the Record. What Off the Record does is they will connect you to a qualified attorney in the jurisdiction where you got pulled over. They'll fight that ticket to get those points off your record.

• 0:44Matt Farah?

  And if they don't succeed, you don't have to pay. It is very, very easy. Again, offtherrecord.com/tst. OfftheRecord.com/tst. That'll get you 10% off all legal services at Off the Record. We love them, don't plead guilty, get off the record. On this program, Zach and I are back in studio. We are talking about our review of the film F1 with Brad Pitt without any spoilers. So you guys can listen to it and then go see the movie for yourself. Also, our review of Apple's CarPlay Ultra as tested in the Aston Martin DBX.

• 1:27Matt Farah?

  We are talking a little bit about the Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro. And I have made a scientific breakthrough. It's the Smoking Tire Podcast, let's go.

• 1:40Matt Farah?

  It is, you know what's very inconvenient to everywhere? Laurel Canyon. Wow, can't believe, can't believe people live up there.

• 1:47Speaker 01

  It's like a racetrack though during commuting hours.

• 1:49Matt Farah?

  Oh yeah.

• 1:50Speaker 01

  People are aggressive.

• 1:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I bet. Probably sucks to get in and out of there during commuting hours.

• 1:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I, my last experience there was cool. I was driving the Ineos and a woman, like a 55 year old woman on a Triumph passed and looked back at it and gave a thumbs up. And then she passed people over double yellow like heading into the canyon. Yeah.

• 2:11Matt Farah?

  I was there before all you motherfuckers.

• 2:12Speaker 01

  It's like Amelia Earhart's granddaughter or something.

• 2:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, it was like her and the mamas and the papas up there in like, you know, the 60s, yeah.

• 2:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:19Matt Farah?

  I bought this fucking thing new.

• 2:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, for $12,000.

• 2:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Hello, this is our show. This is what we do. We sit in this table and we talk. Hi, welcome back. We had a lovely morning on the mountain this morning with the, uh, the new forerunner. But we're not gonna talk about that now, because we made a video of it, and you're gonna be able to watch the whole dang thing. All of it, live and direct.

• 2:46Matt Farah?

  And I put Zach camping, but I guess that, that's now gone sort of in.

• 2:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:51Matt Farah?

  In the video, right? So we can, we can just yoink.

• 2:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, we did.

• 2:54Matt Farah?

  We can just yoink that and talk about something else. Uh, we've got CarPlay Ultra. But I did a little science first.

• 3:03Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 3:04Matt Farah?

  I teased CarPlay Ultra by talking about my own science. On a recent episode, we've been talking about my mental health and panic attacks and such. And I, I've been, uh, you know, trying to like, have that happen less.

• 3:21Speaker 01

  As one should.

• 3:21Matt Farah?

  As one does. And, and I have appointments with doctors and things lined up, but one, I got a letter from a fan. It said that their mom is a psychotherapist, and that he and his sibling both have panic attacks. And the psychotherapist's mother says, when you're having a panic attack, your neurons are like on, like one of those like uncon- like, like a diesel, like an outrun diesel. Like a runaway, it's like that. And so you gotta like, fucking throw a spoke in the fu- or a stick in the spokes. You gotta like, you gotta get a hard stop. And like, so when I was driving and had, had panic attack and I called Hannah, that like, was a little bit, like, that was like, rubbing, putting my finger on the tire to slow it down, but it wasn't to stick in the spokes.

• 4:07Matt Farah?

  Stick in the spokes is to bite into a lemon or a lime.

• 4:12Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 4:12Matt Farah?

  Hardcore citrus right to the fucking dome will do it. Or you do the old drop a couple ice cubes down the back.

• 4:20Speaker 01

  Right.

• 4:21Matt Farah?

  That, either of those, something that makes you go, "Woo!" Apparently.

• 4:26Matt Farah?

  Can.

• 4:27Speaker 01

  Cool.

• 4:28Matt Farah?

  Sometimes, in the right circumstances, stop a panic attack by fucking throwing, throwing something into the neurons to be like, "Hey, go look at this."

• 4:37Speaker 01

  Right, it draws all their focus. Oh, cool.

• 4:39Matt Farah?

  So, I, do I walk around with a lemon now, just in case?

• 4:43Speaker 01

  We should, let's keep it in the camera case.

• 4:45Matt Farah?

  Little shot of a, little shot of lemon juice?

• 4:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:47Matt Farah?

  Probably would do it. You probably don't need to do the, the bite, right? Anything that has to be fresh?

• 4:53Speaker 01

  I don't know. That's a good question.

• 4:54Matt Farah?

  I don't know.

• 4:55Speaker 01

  Well, try, if you try, the juice doesn't work, she goes, "Ah, you need the lemon."

• 4:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah, you need the whole thing.

• 4:59Speaker 01

  And then you have the lemon cut, and she goes, "You can't cut it ahead of time, you gotta cut it during."

• 5:01Matt Farah?

  So, that's, there's a little bit of science might need doing. In some other frustrating science news, a thing that I knew, that I should not do is smoke sativa weed. It's, it's, for an anxious person.

• 5:17Speaker 01

  Right.

• 5:17Matt Farah?

  It's, it, it's the, that's the upweed, for those of you who don't know about weed, there's upweed and downweed, downweed is the indica, upweed is the sativa. Sativa weed also contributes to like productivity, um, creativity, so if you were, if you were gonna write something, or play some music, or if you wanted to clean the house, or like, that kinda shit, a little sativa weed. But, A, you should probably not combine sativa weed with caffeine, even if you're a normal person, if you're an anxious person, you rarely shouldn't do that. And B, um, uh, it's, it's, it's not, it's not, uh, great for this guy. Well, my friend, who's a very kind and generous person, gave me a bunch of weed, like, two months ago.

• 6:02Matt Farah?

  Um, don't need to say who it was, but it's, it's a very kind and generous person. And I was like, "Indica?", and he was like, "Indica?", and I was like, he's like, "Just how you like it", and it was strong.

• 6:15Matt Farah?

  But that's about when panic attacks started. Now, I maybe chalked it up to other things. Uh, but I, I s- I saw the friend again, and he gave me some more, and I'm not, he's not, not selling, he literally has a lot of it, and is like, "Here." And I was like, "Okay", and-

• 6:36Matt Farah?

  That afternoon, I got a little panicky.

• 6:39Matt Farah?

  Timing was coincidental. And I walked down to my local joint. And I said, "I want the fucking hardest core OG Kush. Put me in the couch indica that you've got." Definitive indica. And if you can tell, like usually sativa nuggets are like lighter and a little fluffier. And indica ones are like real dense. Like almost like a fucking toy pine cone, dense, dense. And they're super sticky.

• 7:10Matt Farah?

  So I got it and looked in it. Yup, that is the dense, that's the dense. And the other, the, the stuff from my friend was pretty dense.

• 7:17Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 7:17Matt Farah?

  At least on the surface, it was pretty dense, but not like this dense. Okay, we're in the right direction.

• 7:24Matt Farah?

  Guess what?

• 7:27Matt Farah?

  Forty-eight hours of switch from one to the other. Uh, feeling pretty calm.

• 7:32Speaker 01

  Crisis averted.

• 7:33Matt Farah?

  Possible crisis averted, not averted, but like, but like, definitely, and also because of my blood pressure, I'm taking my blood pressure four times a day. Last forty-eight hours, my blood pressure is ten points lower also. So, I think my friend Doth know what he have.

• 7:54Speaker 01

  Or doesn't.

• 7:54Matt Farah?

  And, or gave me, or no, I mean, does not.

• 7:57Speaker 01

  Right.

• 7:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 7:58Speaker 01

  I think Doth means does.

• 7:59Matt Farah?

  Oh, Doth means, oh shit, yeah, sorry, my Shakespeare, I need to really catch up.

• 8:03Speaker 01

  Prithy, something.

• 8:04Matt Farah?

  Clearly, I didn't spend enough time in Verona, my Shakespeare didn't, didn't rub in, but I think I might have been on the wrong type of the wacky tobacco.

• 8:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, he should ver, he should check with whoever and verify. Maybe it's a hybrid and it's too strong in the S direction.

• 8:20Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, but, but this person is the source, they should know this.

• 8:24Speaker 01

  They are?

• 8:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, they're, that is the source.

• 8:26Speaker 01

  It's not the person I'm thinking of who gets it from their family member?

• 8:30Matt Farah?

  I mean, yes.

• 8:31Speaker 01

  There you go, see?

• 8:31Matt Farah?

  The family, uh, it's true, the family member, as we just learned.

• 8:34Speaker 01

  As we learned from this morning, which we won't repeat that story, but the game of telephone.

• 8:38Matt Farah?

  The game of telephone is not good.

• 8:39Speaker 01

  Sometimes.

• 8:40Matt Farah?

  The, the, yeah.

• 8:41Speaker 01

  Sometimes someone said, you know, the coin flip says heads and they get on the phone, they go, "It was tails."

• 8:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 8:45Speaker 01

  And it's not, not on purpose, they just, yeah.

• 8:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah, but either way, I think I've been fucking up.

• 8:55Speaker 01

  This is the gentle version of that scene in Pulp Fiction where she's just like, "Oh, look, a bag of something." It's like, "No, no, no, wrong direction."

• 9:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, it's a, it's a fine line we walk, you know? Shit. Uh, so, but potential, uh, potential crisis averted and also, um, a lot of extra weed for somebody. I don't know who's gonna want that.

• 9:15Speaker 01

  Just scatter it in your neighbor's garden.

• 9:17Matt Farah?

  I mean, look, shout out to them, it is strong. So if you're, uh, if you're, I don't know, lazy and need motivation, I guess, perhaps a kick in the ass.

• 9:28Speaker 01

  But you're also not anxious, that's the thing. You can't, you can't be lazy and anxious and then smoke sativa. Yeah. Otherwise, you would have written like five books by now.

• 9:36Matt Farah?

  Oh, I, I've had a pretty productive couple of months, I would say. Not like more productive than normal, but like, just, I don't know. It's, uh, we'll continue, we're gonna continue the study. It's early, I mean, it's early. We only have a small number of samples. I'll have to have Hannah turn it into like a beautiful PowerPoint presentation.

• 9:54Speaker 01

  We have to fund science ourselves now, so you might as well.

• 9:58Matt Farah?

  We don't have a Jeffrey Epstein, what are you gonna do? Uh, Jeffrey Epstein.

• 10:03Speaker 01

  Right.

• 10:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 10:04Speaker 01

  What?

• 10:05Matt Farah?

  The thing that he did, you know when people are like, "Financeer Jeffrey Epstein?"

• 10:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:09Matt Farah?

  What did he finance? He financed like, science research.

• 10:12Speaker 01

  Oh, I didn't know that.

• 10:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, that's how he, yeah, like, yeah, that's how he like, got into like, it was in all academia and shit. It was all, yeah, that's how, that was his, that was the, I mean, I don't wanna say his cover, cuz he really did do it, but like, that was the good thing.

• 10:27Speaker 01

  Gotcha.

• 10:28Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 10:28Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 10:28Matt Farah?

  It's everything else that was the problem.

• 10:29Speaker 01

  I felt like we were on one of the Star Tours we saw today and all of a sudden it turned into a CVS lot and I was like, "What are we doing here?"

• 10:34Matt Farah?

  No, the, the, the funding of the science is in fact, the other side of the, of the everything else that was the much bigger.

• 10:44Speaker 01

  I wasn't referring to him canceling funding science. There's a couple larger entities that are doing it, but I get you now.

• 10:50Matt Farah?

  Yes. Um, okay, should we talk about Apple CarPlay Ultra or should we review Brad Pitt's F1, which we saw last night? We should do F1 right before the Patreon bit so that people, if we could do spoilers and people could just skip easier. If they wanna skip over that.

• 11:07Speaker 01

  Do we wanna spoil the movie or do we wanna just talk about? It's without spoiling it.

• 11:12Matt Farah?

  I mean, I think we can talk about it without, without spoiling it.

• 11:15Speaker 01

  I think we should do that.

• 11:15Matt Farah?

  I think we probably can.

• 11:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think we can, we should, because it's pretty early.

• 11:18Matt Farah?

  Because the A-line plot of the movie.

• 11:21Speaker 01

  It's public knowledge.

• 11:22Matt Farah?

  Well, and like, we can, I could, I could say what it is without like, actually necessarily giving away the ending. Which is that it is literally, someone went into a meeting in Hollywood and went, "What if, Days of Thunder, Top Gun, but in a Formula One car?" There are actual scenes and plot points that are ripped directly from both of those films.

• 11:48Speaker 01

  And lots of sports, lots of sports movies too.

• 11:51Matt Farah?

  Lots of sports movies. Um, there's a, the amount of race fixing that happens is not very realistic. Um, in terms of the like, major league level shenanigans that happen in the beginning of the movie. Uh, in terms of, uh, you know, creative use of rule bending, I would say.

• 12:16Speaker 01

  It's, oh, I don't know, uh, because they made it, yeah, I don't want to give too much weight, like, they were very good at saying, "Oh, this might be, if they do this again, they could get in trouble with F1," something like that, like, I don't think they really bent the rules. I think they, I think they nudged against the line.

• 12:34Matt Farah?

  I think if one team did any, did all of those things in one season, they'd probably be thrown out.

• 12:39Speaker 01

  Well, I, except, right now, and in the years past, sometimes it seems like teams are doing those things, but they're doing them by accident. They're like, "Oh, you're just inept."

• 12:48Matt Farah?

  Right, right, right, that's different, yeah, yeah.

• 12:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's.

• 12:50Matt Farah?

  Yeah, if they did it and then your teammate won, like, it would, you know, or whatever. Um, so, it was, I thought it was shot well. I mean, it was shot.

• 13:02Speaker 01

  Very well.

• 13:02Matt Farah?

  Really well.

• 13:03Speaker 01

  I thought it was really, really well done.

• 13:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah, but also, it's kind of funny to me that like, It it's hard to make Formula One look exciting. Like, the racing scenes to me are not as exciting as the racing scenes in Days of Thunder, where there's like rubbing. You know what I mean? Or as exciting as the fighting, dogfighting scenes in Top Gun.

• 13:25Speaker 01

  Well.

• 13:25Matt Farah?

  Where it's like, well, Formula One is just like, it's, I don't know, it's, the cars moving fast on a racetrack is not necessarily, it's a hard thing to make look good.

• 13:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, and if you watch Formula One, and if they don't, not, I've watched other motorsports recently, like, I tried to watch Le Mans. Le Mans, they didn't have the same coverage you have in F1. So F1, like, every car has, I don't know, three or four cameras on it, plus there's all the cameras around each track. So, they, they can, they can basically direct like a movie. They can jump to, like, the nose cone of Lewis's car as he's chasing two other people, and you're like, this is amazing, because this is a shot you'd only get in a movie 20 years ago. So they can put you, like, on the wing and in the seat and all that stuff. But when you watch Le Mans, they can't do that. So I, I watched the Mustang race, and it's like, it looked like a parade.

• 14:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 14:16Speaker 01

  You know, because it's just wide shots the whole time.

• 14:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 14:18Speaker 01

  So I think they do a pretty good job. You just don't have, like, the violence, basically, of Days of Thunder, there's, and NASCAR for real, there's a lot more contact.

• 14:26Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 14:26Speaker 01

  Which NASCAR struggles to show on TV, ironically. Um, and then dogfighting, it's like, it's machine guns and aircraft.

• 14:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 14:35Speaker 01

  It's definitely gonna be more exciting.

• 14:36Matt Farah?

  I know, it's, it's, it's just that even the, even the most exciting racing sequences, I was like,

• 14:45Matt Farah?

  these are beautiful, but they're, to me, not that exciting. I don't know, maybe I'm just not that into Formula One, but...

• 14:53Speaker 01

  I, I, I mean, I watch Formula One every week, and I think that the shots were really well done. I had trouble determining when they were using CGI and when they weren't, which I think is, I mean, that is a compliment, but I think to your point...

• 15:07Speaker 01

  They had to cut, they had to change shots so often to try to bring up that energy that it's hard to make it feel like there's authentic driving happening.

• 15:16Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 15:16Speaker 01

  Except for, you know, the two shots they used a lot of. Like the one that makes, makes Brad look like he's racing a car. They did a good job of that. But other than those shots, like you didn't get a sense of the field, really. You didn't get a sense of cornering speed, really.

• 15:30Matt Farah?

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• 19:47Matt Farah?

  The hero car is black and they they're using the real current 2024 F1 field like the real drivers. I'm sure they're having, you know, stunt drivers for most of it or whatever, but they're using the color scheme of the actual cars. To put a black car in there, it actually kind of disappears. There was a there were areas, there were times where even on a giant XD plus seven blah blah blah screen. They're showing like a battle and it's like with Lewis or with with George Russell or whatever. And like it, you couldn't tell like which car was which actually it was the same problem they had in the.

• 20:30Matt Farah?

  Michael Mann Ferrari movie where granted it was historically accurate. But in that Milli Millie scene, Milli Millia scene at the end of the film. The Ferraris and Maseratis look almost identical and they're almost the same color. And so with a quick cut action sequence, Hannah was like, I literally cannot tell which car is which.

• 20:50Speaker 01

  Oh, that's a problem.

• 20:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 20:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:52Matt Farah?

  It's the Transformers problem, right?

• 20:54Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah.

• 20:54Matt Farah?

  Where there's a robot battle and you have absolutely no idea what anything is.

• 20:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, that's why the Transformers, they have to go yellow, but once they get like silver versus black, it's hard to tell.

• 21:04Matt Farah?

  And I mean, I just, I think they had an opportunity to make a really like a bright colored car that'd be really easy to pick out of a line of other cars. And yet they made it black.

• 21:13Speaker 01

  I wonder why they didn't. Uh, someone in our group was like, I think you could feel Toto's influence on what their this team's pit looked like. Like the colors looked very Mercedes.

• 21:21Matt Farah?

  It looked like the Mercedes.

• 21:22Speaker 01

  It looked very much like the Mercedes thing.

• 21:23Matt Farah?

  The whole thing, even right down to the the actress, like the female leads all looked like Susie Wolff. Every did no like as a both female leads look.

• 21:36Matt Farah?

  Are like the the the older female lead that's like the

• 21:39Speaker 01

  Tire gun woman.

• 21:40Matt Farah?

  Head of tech, it looks exactly like Susie Wolf. And the the younger like tire changer girl looks just like a younger version of that woman.

• 21:49Speaker 01

  That's very funny. Yeah. And also like Lewis's trainer person.

• 21:53Matt Farah?

  Oh, the manager guy.

• 21:55Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 21:55Matt Farah?

  Her physio in real life. Yeah, yeah.

• 21:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah, which I thought was pretty funny. The other guy is obviously supposed to be an amalgam of the guy with the beard. It's supposed to be like an amalgam of team principals.

• 22:09Speaker 01

  Oh, right. Javier Bardem, his character.

• 22:11Matt Farah?

  Javier, well Javier Bardem, who plays the team principal of Brad Pitt's team. It was like, will we be successful or not? And I'm everything on the line. I actually think he did a very, very good job. I met the guy who was the general manager, whatever you call him, running the team. The gray beard.

• 22:28Speaker 01

  Oh, right. Yes.

• 22:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 22:29Speaker 01

  I can see.

• 22:30Matt Farah?

  Um, who I think is the team principal, but the other guy's the team owner.

• 22:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, true.

• 22:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 22:36Matt Farah?

  I did, I thought, I thought the, the

• 22:41Matt Farah?

  car cred stuff was done to a pretty high level. There were, there were no, I can't remember any moments where I fully rolled my eyes at something that was said about cars.

• 22:53Speaker 01

  I, oh, I, the opening scene, which I won't spoil for people.

• 22:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 22:57Speaker 01

  What I'll say is when you're sitting there watching it, the movie gets, immediately gets better after that scene ends. Cause like that racing scene, which was not an F1 scene. I was like, this is weird. Like, this is way too Fast and Furious of like, oh, he's just gonna pass people because he's trying.

• 23:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 23:14Speaker 01

  And there's too much contact happening and fireworks for some reason.

• 23:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah, but there's a cameo by, I was blinded by the cameo from our friend.

• 23:21Speaker 01

  Yes, that was super cool.

• 23:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah, we had, I had three friends who had cameos in the movie and it was, it was very nice to see.

• 23:28Speaker 01

  It was such a quick moment. It's like, oh my God!

• 23:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 23:31Speaker 01

  And that was great.

• 23:31Matt Farah?

  That was, that is a good one.

• 23:33Speaker 01

  I think, I think overall.

• 23:34Matt Farah?

  What's also very funny is, I guess, it doesn't, it doesn't matter to the, to the, in, in, in the, the opening scene of the movie, he's racing on a GT car team, a Porsche team that wins the 24 Hours of Daytona. This happens in the first nine minutes of the movie, so I don't feel like, but when he gets to F1. You know, he's okay, come, come drive for this team. Everybody acts like this guy is a total fucking nobody. You're, you're a loser. You know, I won Daytona like a, like a week ago, like, does nobody in racing know that I won Daytona a week ago and am now here like?

• 24:12Speaker 01

  True, although if he went from like, uh, I guess it would be like GT class. And, and passed LMP1 and 2, like just jumped over them to go back to F1. Like it would be a little leap, but people would know who you were.

• 24:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah, like people would know who you were.

• 24:27Speaker 01

  Probably.

• 24:27Matt Farah?

  She's like some fucking loser. Like, I'm treating him like he's a total bum, but he's like raced in Formula One before. He's been racing in other series, apparently this entire time, he's just like bad with money and gambles and shit.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  The bigger surprise is that he's raced in F1 before and then shows up and everyone goes, who are you? If, if everyone does anything, it's remind you of the heroes.

• 24:50Matt Farah?

  I mean, it would be, yeah, it would be like if fucking Martin Brundle, you know, went, and actually the, you know, the, uh, I believe, I'm very, almost certain that the, the footage of Brad Pitt's quote crash from when he crashed out of F1, I think that's Martin Brundle crashing. I think so, yeah. Where he's fully ejected from the car, I, I think that's a Martin Brundle. It's, it's like, it looks like his car. It's the camel, the yellow camel car, which I think was the same. It was the same livery that when Martin Brundle rolled it at the Australian Grand Prix. And then got it when they had replacement cars and he rolled that car and then got in the other car and went out, bent back out and raced like.

• 25:30Speaker 01

  Imagine when they, they approach him like, Martin, we'd love for you to be involved in the film. And he's like, oh, great. And they go, we just want to license the footage of you crashing.

• 25:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 25:39Speaker 01

  And laying on the ground.

• 25:40Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I think it was, was it him?

• 25:42Speaker 01

  Uh.

• 25:43Matt Farah?

  I'm pretty sure it was.

• 25:44Speaker 01

  I can't find that specific car, that bright yellow. Oh, this might be it.

• 25:50Matt Farah?

  It's like the camel.

• 25:50Speaker 01

  Oh, I think you might be right.

• 25:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 25:52Speaker 01

  Where they recreated it.

• 25:55Matt Farah?

  It looked just like it.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  1984 Monaco GP.

• 25:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it looked just like it.

• 25:59Speaker 01

  Yep. Ouch.

• 26:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it was bad.

• 26:02Speaker 01

  Car cut in half.

• 26:03Matt Farah?

  But yeah, no, the car, I mean, yes, some of the, the 24 Hours of Daytona racing scenes where he passes the entire field are very silly. But the other, like, the way they talk about the cars, the way they talk about aero, there's, in the beginning, there's clearly some dialogue and voiceover that's designed to teach the audience what they're going to be talking about the rest of the movie.

• 26:27Speaker 01

  Yes, they did, they did a ton of that, they did a good job of it.

• 26:30Matt Farah?

  It was, it kept it moving, it was alright.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  Well, they do the same thing like Liberty Media does, or actually, the announcers do on F1 every, like, they, the team of three, and the announcers change a lot, but, you know, Alex Jakes and David Coldheart, they all do a good job, is explaining quickly and concisely to the audience what this change has meant for this team during the race, like, they do a really good job of going, they've done that, that does this, da, da, da, oh, they're at turn four, and they did that through the whole movie, with, what's the guy, the announcer's name, the actual?

• 26:59Matt Farah?

  Will Buxton?

• 27:00Speaker 01

  No, no, no, he, um...

• 27:02Matt Farah?

  Oh, the guy who's the voice, John, John Hindhaw, Hindhaw? Isn't that his name?

• 27:08Speaker 01

  That's what, that, no, he does LeMans.

• 27:10Matt Farah?

  He does, oh, he's LeMans, yeah.

• 27:11Speaker 01

  David Croft.

• 27:12Matt Farah?

  Sorry.

• 27:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, sorry, David Croft, he was in there a lot, and yeah, there's a lot of voiceover of like, the PA system is explaining to the audience a lot of what is happening.

• 27:21Matt Farah?

  Yes, there's a god voice throughout the movie.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  There's a god, without it, I mean, even, I hope people who aren't really into cars or racing, follow along.

• 27:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 27:30Speaker 01

  If you're into racing, you'll follow along and you won't roll your eyes that much, you won't be like, yeah, no shit, you'll just go, okay, they're moving it forward.

• 27:37Matt Farah?

  No, it's not, it doesn't pander to people who know about racing too much, actually. It's, it's pretty good in that way, there's some, there's some movies that do a terrible job of that, but like, this one, this one was pretty good. I, it was, it was a fun two and a half hours, I think, it's definitely, if you can see it in IMAX or something.

• 27:58Speaker 01

  See it on a big screen.

• 27:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's, it's worth it, and if not, if you got a great home theater, it'll be fun to... Um, it, the, I thought, I thought the young, the young black dude was, did great. I can't remember his name. Sorry. Um, I thought the, the, both the, the leading women were great.

• 28:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:15Matt Farah?

  Um, don't know their names.

• 28:17Speaker 01

  I thought the stories were good.

• 28:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 28:18Speaker 01

  And a lot of dialogue was pretty funny, too. There were some good jokes. There wasn't too much cheese.

• 28:23Matt Farah?

  But they structure the movie like Drive to Survive. They structure it race after race after race after race. You know, which I think is probably so that people who watch Drive to Survive like, uh, like relate, kind of.

• 28:37Speaker 01

  Eh, but I think sports movies, it's always, it always builds towards the World Series or the Super Bowl or the what, there's always a big game at the end of the thing. That they, you know, Rudy, they have to work toward.

• 28:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 28:48Speaker 01

  Cause then it's like the stakes keep increasing and that's gonna be your last shot. It's always like that.

• 28:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It's fun.

• 28:55Speaker 01

  I think it's, it's cool. I was really, I, I watched Mission Impossible 3 last week and that was garbage.

• 28:59Matt Farah?

  Really?

• 29:00Speaker 01

  Yeah. And this.

• 29:01Matt Farah?

  Is that the, that's the current one?

• 29:02Speaker 01

  That's the new one.

• 29:03Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah.

• 29:03Speaker 01

  You can skip that.

• 29:04Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 29:04Speaker 01

  For, forever. Or fast forward it, cause it's very long. This was good.

• 29:08Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 29:09Speaker 01

  I saw, I really enjoyed watching this movie.

• 29:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It was, it was a, it was a satisfying watch in, in general, I think. It was, it was worth your time, for sure. Nice job, uh, everybody. And, uh, yeah. And you can, you can fucking not get it on CarPlay also, by the way.

• 29:28Speaker 01

  You cannot.

• 29:29Matt Farah?

  You cannot get it on CarPlay.

• 29:30Speaker 01

  But, the movie was produced by Apple Films or whatever it's called.

• 29:34Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah.

• 29:35Speaker 01

  And we, this is the same, we go, speaking of Apple, CarPlay Ultra.

• 29:37Matt Farah?

  But before that, I will say that the other sponsors in the movie, which are basically the sponsors of, of Brad Pitt and the other guy's cars. Um, which is a great way to raise money for the movie, by the way.

• 29:50Speaker 01

  It sure is.

• 29:51Matt Farah?

  You know what I mean? Like, you sponsor this fictional F1 team and just be all up in it, but man, are their product shots. The IWC watch has like, probably nine seconds of screen time just on the watch. Like, that's a color that was like just for this movie.

• 30:09Speaker 01

  And is that why when they, he doesn't want the?

• 30:13Matt Farah?

  When he doesn't take the role. Rolex, right? He wins Daytona and he's driving away and the guy goes, doesn't you want your watch?

• 30:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:19Matt Farah?

  This is a guy with no money.

• 30:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:21Matt Farah?

  This is a guy who lives, he lives in a van, he has no money, a fucking winner, a 24 hour winner Daytona? At a pawn shop, that's a $75,000 watch.

• 30:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:34Matt Farah?

  He goes, no, no, I got one.

• 30:36Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 30:36Matt Farah?

  Sure. That's, that is, that is the most unrealistic part of the entire movie.

• 30:41Speaker 01

  Actually.

• 30:41Matt Farah?

  A broke guy wouldn't take a gold Daytona after winning Daytona.

• 30:45Speaker 01

  I think they actually justified it by the end, which I don't want to spoil for people. They did an okay job. But at the time, I didn't pick up on the IWC sponsorship and now I completely understand why he turned it.

• 30:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Guy's waving a Daytona at him and he's like, no, I got a watch.

• 31:01Speaker 01

  Well, he says, I got one. I went, oh, maybe he already, he already won this before. That would make sense for the character. It's like, no, no, he has an IWC that they kept showing.

• 31:10Speaker 01

  And like a lot of the logo, like Expensify sponsored the race car and that's, that's like, that's true. When you watch F1, it's like the top, the halo ring on everyone's car is like a crypto company.

• 31:20Matt Farah?

  I was not talking about on the car.

• 31:22Speaker 01

  No, no, but the funny one was Ninja later, like there's a, there's a shot of a blender. And on the way home, I processed it and I went, it was like they're blending green things, healthy, like they were sending the whole message. Yeah. It was really funny.

• 31:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I wanna, I would love to do a, a re-watch purely for product placement. Just to make notes of how much screen time, um, each of those products got in that movie. Cause it is, it is pretty funny, uh, that they, how much they snuck in there, a whole bunch. Um, all right. I want to talk about CarPlay now. Uh, Aston Martin, uh, uh, actually, uh, full disclosure, huh? Sorry, what?

• 32:03Speaker 01

  Uh, that would spoil a part of the movie. No, I'll tell you after we're done.

• 32:06Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 32:06Speaker 01

  There's one of the best moments in it.

• 32:07Matt Farah?

  Oh, so Aston Martin actually rented West Side Collector Car Storage to have a small media launch for the fact that they are the first manufacturer to have CarPlay Ultra in their cars. So, full disclosure, I financially benefited from this arrangement because they paid for this. So, but, but I had absolutely nothing to do with the technology that's in the car. So, we got to play around with it a bit. It's the second, it's the second generation of CarPlay and essentially what it does is it integrates more into your car. And when Apple came and told us about this last year and showed us some slides and stuff,

• 32:49Matt Farah?

  we were kind of like, oh no, this looks very bad. But I actually do feel some relief.

• 32:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:57Matt Farah?

  Having now used it in the Aston Martin because it's much more like they actually listened to what people didn't like about CarPlay and it made some improvements rather than trying to shove something down people's throats that is just an overkill of tech that maybe we don't want. Am I right?

• 33:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think what we saw, we kind of saw the skeleton of it or the functionality, but some of the fonts they had chosen and things felt like they were just going to remove the personality of the inside of a car and wouldn't have looked at all in place in the Aston Martin.

• 33:31Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 33:31Speaker 01

  And I think with this, they've gotten to say, okay, here's the functionality. Now can we make this part of it look appropriate?

• 33:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 33:38Speaker 01

  For the DBX or for the brand and they did a good job.

• 33:40Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, the, the main thing, like when, when someone says, well, what is CarPlay Ultra? If you've used CarPlay before, and I imagine most of us have, there isn't an equivalent for Android Auto right now, sorry, but basically when you're using CarPlay in a car.

• 33:56Speaker 01

  CarWork, it's called Android CarWork.

• 33:58Matt Farah?

  It acts, it acts like an, like an app in the car. And then, you know, you can do your phone, you can play podcasts or music or whatever you would do with your Apple phone that it allows you to do while driving, right? But to do anything else, like set the temperature or use FM or Sirius radio stations or change drive modes, change ADAS settings, you have to exit CarPlay to do that. What this does is it integrates all that stuff into CarPlay. So there's a climate app, there's an ADAS or a vehicle settings app, there's a radio app.

• 34:40Matt Farah?

  And so you can, I think Zach has a photo, can you make that photo a little bigger just so we can see more screen? More of the car screen. What what we're doing there is I'm scrolling through Sirius XM stations within Apple CarPlay. And if you can, if you find a scroll, so so basically, I mean, that's that's pretty much it, right? So so you don't have to exit out of CarPlay in order to change basic vehicle settings that you might want to change often. Additionally, it takes over, CarPlay takes over your gauge cluster screen. Now, you might at first glance go, oh, no, that's that's not good.

• 35:23Matt Farah?

  But actually, it there's like six different screens. It's like what I mean, other manufacturers have had different screens, right?

• 35:29Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 35:29Matt Farah?

  But these supposedly just integrate a little more smoothly with CarPlay. So you can now have Apple Maps as your cluster map screen, not just the native Maps app. You can have, um, uh, they do have that sort of Apple-like simple screen. They have the

• 35:51Speaker 01

  Right. There's like three gauge. Actually, I have pictures of, I think, all the

• 35:54Matt Farah?

  Oh, there you go. This one is Apple Maps. Um, this one is the sort of Apple I cluster or whatever that doesn't have numbers on the on the circles on the RPMs.

• 36:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, there we know like fake needle. Um, the circles are just simple thick banded circles and then your miles per hour is a digital readout on the left.

• 36:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 36:14Speaker 01

  Uh, this one's kind of the middle ground, I think it was, and then

• 36:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the one the one you just had was the sort of default Aston Martin gauge. It looks the most like a regular digital gauge.

• 36:25Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 36:25Matt Farah?

  Um, and then they have this one that's like a just bars, these four

• 36:29Speaker 01

  This is very like, uh, video game power meters.

• 36:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 36:33Speaker 01

  There's just like miles per hour.

• 36:34Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 36:35Speaker 01

  Miles to empty, sport, and then your temp.

• 36:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And so you can choose through all this stuff in real time. Oh, they have this other one, which is like a sport one that has like a a terrain sort of background.

• 36:46Speaker 01

  It's like a top topographical map in the background. And then this and some of these to me looks very at home in an EV.

• 36:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 36:53Speaker 01

  Not, in my opinion, in like a super SUV, but you have options. In the same way like Mercedes gauges these days, I think it was like eight or nine different

• 37:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 37:03Speaker 01

  settings and some of them look like, oh, if I had a fighter jet, I'd love this.

• 37:07Matt Farah?

  There is a real fighter jet.

• 37:08Speaker 01

  There's a real fighter jet one, you know what I'm talking about. So they're not all great. People might hate some of them, but hopefully they like some of them because I thought some of them were, the ones that looked more like traditional gauges, looked good, super legible, and the integration with all the other settings is really handy.

• 37:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And you've got standalone volume settings for your different devices and stuff.

• 37:30Speaker 01

  So handy to just be all right there. Holy crap.

• 37:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And they've got some of the, some of like the ADAS settings which, which end up looking like Apple buttons because that's in there. But here's one screen, go back. So they've also had, they have a couple ones where it's not in CarPlay Ultra, but it sort of sneaks in a background Aston Martin UI screen for certain like highly specific like audio tuning settings and stuff like that. So every once in a while it will like sneak that in. Do you have the climate, a picture of the climate control screen? The climate control screen looks very much like Apple. Oh, we don't? Okay.

• 38:14Matt Farah?

  I mean, it's, it's basic digital temperature controls, but it's big blocky touchscreen stuff. They, they really, the Aston Martin folks said they wanted anything that you had to peck at to be a big, easy to find sort of block.

• 38:33Matt Farah?

  But it is, it is a nice improvement of, of CarPlay. It's, it's not bad at all. And you don't have to use it. I mean, you can still just connect your phone over Bluetooth and there's the Aston Martin touchscreen interface underneath that.

• 38:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. But having the, the shorter journey to like the vehicle settings and other stuff instead of having to back out

• 38:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 38:55Speaker 01

  is, is very helpful.

• 38:57Matt Farah?

  And also like, yeah, if you, like for me, I like to listen to Sirius a lot. And so to bounce back and forth between Sirius and CarPlay all the time is an extra touch of the home button both ways. It's a layover both ways. Now I'm, now I'm in there. Um, so that's, that's nice. And for, for, uh, apparently for people that own many cars, one of their complaints to Aston Martin is remembering all the different stuff in different cars. And so, you know, once more, more brands roll this out, if they roll this out, a lot of your basic settings and things should remain the same from car, at least how you do stuff.

• 39:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:38Matt Farah?

  Which is nice.

• 39:39Speaker 01

  It really is. That, that really is a continuation of the, the magic of CarPlay. We're all used to using our phone. So, okay, it mirrors a lot of it. You just, you're familiar with where these things are and how they look. And how, how responsive the tapping is. Another thing we forgot is, um, like some of the buttons in the touchscreen are now much bigger. Cause it's, it's just easier to hit them. You don't have to hit this tiny pinpoint.

• 39:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 40:00Speaker 01

  Like you do in some cars. Like, oh, I want to tick this box for ADAS, but it's very small. I'm driving down a road, whatever. Now it's like a four inch wide bar.

• 40:07Matt Farah?

  Oh, and also they've, they've added, it's a hard button. It's the legal minimum, like the GT3. The legal minimum of button taps.

• 40:16Speaker 01

  Two taps.

• 40:16Matt Farah?

  Two taps. So there's a hard button. It pulls up a pop-up window in CarPlay Ultra. And you just tap deactivate all. And then you're, all your ADAS is off, which is, which is great.

• 40:28Speaker 01

  I forget. Someone asked, was this wireless or wired?

• 40:30Matt Farah?

  Wireless.

• 40:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah, wireless. Yeah. Or, I mean, either. It's either, but it works wireless. Yeah. Yeah. And you, right now it goes all the way back to iPhone 13. Which my phone is just sneaking in under there.

• 40:46Speaker 01

  And you also, for those of you who own a 2023 Aston Martin, you can bring it in and they'll retroactively put it on, right?

• 40:53Matt Farah?

  2024 model year and up. If it has the touchscreen. Yeah. When they, when they got away, if it has, if it's post AMG UI. They can retroactively.

• 41:06Speaker 01

  You don't have to buy a new car.

• 41:07Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 41:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:08Matt Farah?

  Uh, so they're gonna get us a Vantage Roadster. Um, because we've already driven DBX 707's a bunch, so. They're gonna get us a Vantage Roadster with CarPlay Ultra in a few weeks and we'll get to play with it. On some video, but overall, I thought it was a, it was a nice system. I told them to their face that I missed the real gauges. And they said. They said, it's, they said, a lot of people have brought that up. They said, I'm not the only person who brought that up and that, you know. Sadly, you know, at the very high end, that's the kind of thing that could come back.

• 41:38Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 41:38Matt Farah?

  They're looking at what Bugatti's doing. And going, oh, the rich people want this.

• 41:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:44Matt Farah?

  They don't want more screen. You know?

• 41:46Speaker 01

  I really like Porsche's setup where it was. Mostly real gauges and like the one pod that you could change. That was sweet.

• 41:52Matt Farah?

  Like in, like in my car, that's no notes.

• 41:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:55Matt Farah?

  Leave it, leave it just like that. It's perfect.

• 41:59Matt Farah?

  The. I was in the Uber. I dropped off a, a customer car this morning after our show and I was in the Uber back here. And I heard a commercial for Toyota, which I thought. Uh, and the commercial was appropriate because we were just driving the, the TRD Pro 4Runner. Which we're not gonna review today, but in doing my, you know, research for it, I was, I built one on their website. And like you can get all these crazy. Like stuff through the dealer, like domatic fridges and ARB this and rigid lights and. Yeti built-in coolers and like all kinds of cool stuff. That you can just order with the car and it comes in and I guess you could roll it into your financing, which is pretty sweet. Um.

• 42:43Matt Farah?

  But this, this Toyota commercial comes on, on the radio in the, in the Uber and it's about. How you can customize your car at the dealer. And, uh, and it's this guy who goes, I bought it. It's like a Hispanic dude. He's like, I bought a Toyota Camry TRD Pro. Uh, not TRD Pro, a Camry TRD, man. He's like, and I just love it. And then he's like, I customized it and then he proceeds to list off like. The most like cholo-y mods. He's like, I swapped out the headlights. I put a different exhaust on it. I put, I put an intake. I put this. I was like. They're doing intakes and exhaust at the dealer.

• 43:20Speaker 01

  Headlights?

• 43:21Matt Farah?

  And headlights, and changing headlights.

• 43:23Speaker 01

  What are the headlights?

• 43:23Matt Farah?

  At the dealer.

• 43:24Speaker 01

  Is that just upgrading?

• 43:25Matt Farah?

  This is a radio commercial, okay? So, then, that's the guy. Now, my car is the sickest Camry on the block. Alright, cool, man. Then the voice comes back on. Come on down to your nearest Toyota dealer and check out our, check out our, uh, our full line of modifications from makers like Rigid, ARB, Dometic, Yeti, and like, something else, like, and they list off everything you can put on the 4Runner.

• 43:53Speaker 01

  But not on a Camry.

• 43:53Matt Farah?

  And the Tacoma, they don't talk about anything this dude was just talking about with his Camry. Nothing.

• 43:59Speaker 01

  Now, I wonder if it'd be, either they've been using that guy's dialogue for a year, and they can just attach different accessory readouts on the end.

• 44:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 44:08Speaker 01

  Or, it's just like, the grossest version of trying to appeal to this market, and then...

• 44:14Matt Farah?

  I think they know exactly what they're doing. They go, but let's get a guy imply, but not directly say, that you could get parts for Camrys, even though this thing really is only for...

• 44:27Speaker 01

  But if someone went to the dealership and was like, "I'd like to get the intake and exhaust they talked about."

• 44:31Matt Farah?

  Sir, your tires are out of date, we're gonna have to change those.

• 44:34Speaker 01

  I think...

• 44:35Matt Farah?

  While you're down here, we can get you one.

• 44:36Speaker 01

  I think they'd get sued for false advertising, though. They have to, I mean, well...

• 44:39Matt Farah?

  They don't false advertising.

• 44:40Speaker 01

  Well, if...

• 44:41Matt Farah?

  It's just implication, but they don't falsely say, you could put parts on your Camry. They don't say, "We have parts for your Camry."

• 44:49Speaker 01

  Well, he says he customized his Camry, right?

• 44:51Matt Farah?

  He did.

• 44:52Speaker 01

  So, I think, that's why I pulled up, there's an intake you can get.

• 44:55Matt Farah?

  I couldn't play back the beginning of the, of the commercial, so I couldn't hear the words of, "I went to the dealer and got it." Oh, so there is a TRD for a Camry, that's the intake for a Camry?

• 45:05Speaker 01

  I searched Camry intake, TRD colder intake system.

• 45:11Matt Farah?

  Alright, so you can get an intake for a Camry, I guess. This doesn't say Camry anywhere.

• 45:18Speaker 01

  It doesn't, I didn't Google.

• 45:20Matt Farah?

  What this fits, look, go see, pull that down, what this fits.

• 45:26Matt Farah?

  Three models, sixty-eight variants.

• 45:28Speaker 01

  Between 06 and 11?

• 45:30Matt Farah?

  But it doesn't say what they are?

• 45:31Speaker 01

  That's weird. Oh, here, uh...

• 45:34Matt Farah?

  Between 2006 and 2011. Alright, but this is Camry?

• 45:38Speaker 01

  I don't know, I just, I Googled quickly.

• 45:39Matt Farah?

  Oh, alright, that's pretty funny.

• 45:43Matt Farah?

  I think it's probably for a truck.

• 45:49Matt Farah?

  Alright, AEM, no.

• 45:52Speaker 01

  Oh, here you go.

• 45:53Matt Farah?

  Don't get a cold air intake on your Camry, people. It's an AEM, and, oh, don't do that. Just forget that, leave that alone.

• 46:02Speaker 01

  That's funny.

• 46:04Matt Farah?

  But it seemed like a little bit of a bait and switch.

• 46:08Speaker 01

  Well, speaking of which, look, Fred Anderson Toyota will sell you a TRD cold air intake for $291, but autoparts.toyota.com will sell it to you for $772.

• 46:18Matt Farah?

  Do we know what it fits?

• 46:19Speaker 01

  No, we don't.

• 46:22Speaker 01

  These might not even be the same part, and I'm showing two different parts and comparing prices.

• 46:25Matt Farah?

  Select your vehicle to ensure an exact fit. This one fits 43 variants.

• 46:30Speaker 01

  Fewer variants, but newer models.

• 46:33Matt Farah?

  I don't... Oh, boy.

• 46:35Speaker 01

  I don't know, this is weird. I'm bringing us all over the map.

• 46:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah. We're gonna go to the Patreon before, or but first, another update from our friend David Tuig, who was the project manager, project lead, whatever, in charge of designing and building the Alpine A110.

• 46:54Speaker 01

  He was the big Tuig at Alpine.

• 46:55Matt Farah?

  We were talking about the... We were talking about the unbelted passenger thing, and that's why it couldn't be sold here. He added, "It's not just the shape of the dash, but the shape of the roof, and the fact that the roof goes far forward and the windshield is pretty upright compared to a windshield that's further raked back with a headliner that's closer to your head." He said to redesign the car to meet the US crash standards, to redesign that car would add hundreds of pounds to the car.

• 47:33Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 47:33Matt Farah?

  And he said, "A big part of the reason that the Cayman is global and the Alpine is not is the same reason that the Cayman is like 500 pounds heavier than the Alpine."

• 47:46Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 47:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 47:47Speaker 01

  I love, and look, the science is the science, but like, looking at the profile of this car,

• 47:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 47:52Speaker 01

  to call this windshield very, you know, very upright...

• 47:55Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 47:56Speaker 01

  Is wild.

• 47:57Matt Farah?

  So, look at a photo of that windshield and where the top of it is compared to a Cayman relative to the driver's head.

• 48:12Speaker 01

  He's gonna show me a, no, I thought he was gonna show me a crocodile.

• 48:17Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 48:17Matt Farah?

  So, the windshield is further back in the car?

• 48:22Matt Farah?

  And the windshield itself goes higher up and further angled back towards the driver's head?

• 48:27Speaker 01

  The Cayman windshield terminates just behind the mirror on the door, right? So we go here.

• 48:33Matt Farah?

  Well, the mirror is further forward.

• 48:37Matt Farah?

  The whole canopy is pushed forward in the Alpine compared to the Cayman. The windshield's more upright.

• 48:47Matt Farah?

  And the dash binnacle, the top of the dash, where the dash, I'm sorry, where the windshield meets the thing is further forward in the Cayman. Or in the Alpine, in the Alpine, sorry.

• 48:57Speaker 01

  So the windshield's too far away? Is that the short?

• 49:00Matt Farah?

  Yes.

• 49:01Speaker 01

  Okay, so someone flies too far?

• 49:02Matt Farah?

  Correct.

• 49:03Speaker 01

  Before hitting the windshield?

• 49:04Matt Farah?

  Yes, yeah.

• 49:05Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 49:07Matt Farah?

  David wanted to add that in 47 out of 50 states, it is illegal to drive without a seatbelt. And yet, we will coddle the other three in order to build, to not have this car. He's like, "If you think it's annoying," he's like, "I saw your video. When I tell you why you can't have that car, you're gonna be even madder." He's like, "Because there's three states in your country that refuse to enact seatbelt laws, and all cars have to coddle those people that need coddling because they refuse to be told to wear their seatbelt."

• 49:39Speaker 01

  Are those people buying Caymans? Would they buy, they probably wouldn't even buy, I don't wanna be, wow. Alright, New Hampshire is the only US state now that does not require adults to wear seatbelts.

• 49:50Matt Farah?

  Alright, live free or die?

• 49:53Matt Farah?

  15, so 49, not 47?

• 49:56Speaker 01

  Well, this was as of 2019, New Hampshire was the only state.

• 49:58Matt Farah?

  Okay, so he did this car in 2017, so maybe they've changed it. But, but either way, that's...

• 50:03Speaker 01

  New Hampshire, what do you?

• 50:04Matt Farah?

  They're living free or dying, literally. Literally, they're dying for not wearing seatbelts and helmets, free.

• 50:11Speaker 01

  Good job.

• 50:12Matt Farah?

  Free from being told.

• 50:15Speaker 01

  If you fly through a windshield and you don't die, it's probably gonna be very painful for quite a while. Wear your seatbelt.

• 50:21Matt Farah?

  I knew someone who didn't believe in seatbelts and guess how he died? Just like fucking that. Seriously, yeah. On the FDR drive. Yep, went ejected from a Ford Thunderbird. This dude weighed 280 pounds. Imagine getting ejected from a Ford Thunderbird weighing 280 pounds and going out the windshield. That's literal, that's what happened to him.

• 50:43Speaker 01

  I saw a video of someone getting ejected once and you would not believe, it's really alarming. When physics takes over, how quickly the body folds and molds to the opening it's going through. And like, your legs don't matter, it's just, that's where it's going, because that's momentum and it's... You wear a seatbelt after that.

• 51:03Matt Farah?

  Should we go to the people?

• 51:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:06Matt Farah?

  The people, by the way, need to know that the link will be up on both social media and this podcast. And on the Patreon for tickets to our live shows, July 24th and 25th in Houston and Dallas, Texas, at the shops. There's 150 tickets per thing. And it'll be fun, there's food there, there's drinks. Bring your car out. We're bringing Christian James hands, so ensure that you have a good show. And it'll be really, really fun. So we'll make sure that that's up by the end of the day, today, which is Monday.

• 51:48Speaker 01

  Did you watch sale start today? Someone asked.

• 51:52Matt Farah?

  Oh, no, the parts aren't quite ready, don't worry. I will, I will let you know. I will let everybody know.

• 51:57Speaker 01

  I'll chop that part.

• 51:58Matt Farah?

  I will let everybody know.

• 52:01Matt Farah?

  Okay, of course, if you want to ask questions on the show, if you want to get it live, if you want to get it early, if you want to get it without ads, if you want to get extra it... As well as access to early drops of cool collabs and/or merch. Patreon.com/thesmogontire is where you do it. Koenig Special Needs, that's pretty good. I like that a lot. Do V12 starter motors sound cool because of the number of cylinders? Or something integral to the starter itself? Do you think there's a market for starters on smaller motors? To be tuned to sound like V12 starters?

• 52:42Matt Farah?

  I have heard lots of V12 starters and I don't think they sound particularly special.

• 52:50Matt Farah?

  The starter motor itself. I don't think, I don't think there's anything to it. I think-

• 52:55Speaker 01

  I couldn't do an impression. I don't know what that would sound like.

• 52:57Matt Farah?

  I mean, I think certain manufacturers' cars Have a distinct start sound to them. That transcends the number of cylinders they make. For instance-

• 53:08Speaker 01

  You're talking about the cranking sound?

• 53:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the cranking sound. The cranking sound. Like Ferrari starters sound the same. All Ferrari starters sound the same. All McLaren starters sound the same.

• 53:18Speaker 01

  I feel like this is saying, did you see the t-shirt that the lead guitarist was- Was wearing of the band you saw? And like, I don't care what the t-shirts say. I care what the guitarist-

• 53:28Matt Farah?

  I don't thi- I don't think there's Anything about the starter motors that are special. I think each company uses a supplier of a starter motor and I mean, more cylinders, the starter motor has to be more powerful. Right? Cause it literally has to turn more.

• 53:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. I think this person, I think, I think they might be confusing engine sound with starter sound.

• 53:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah. That or I think you want to hear something that you're not really hearing.

• 53:57Speaker 01

  I'm trying to imagine like, if it's a higher pitched versus Lower pitched stuff. Or like F1 cars, like that's a different type of starter. That's like a high, high revolution, like literally higher RPM. And then, that's different.

• 54:13Matt Farah?

  I don't know. I think certain companies have car starters, like McLaren's have a specific one and Rolls Royce is a specific one. Ferrari does, maybe certain old 911s, like air-cooled 911s have a specific one. But like, I just think it's the part they were using.

• 54:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:31Matt Farah?

  Combined with the sound it takes when you start to move that engine from rest.

• 54:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think that. I think, I do not think there would be a market for tuning the sound of a starter.

• 54:42Matt Farah?

  Uh, Tim A. says, "We now have lots of experience off-roading EVs." I don't know about lot, but enough. "How does it feel to off-road an internal combustion 4Runner after spending time in a G-Wagon or Rivian? Outside of range, is there an upside to a traditional off-roader?" No.

• 55:00Speaker 01

  No, I missed the insta-torque of EV stuff.

• 55:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I like the silence. I like, I don't, I don't, I like not having gears. Um, and yeah, infinitely variable torque. I mean, once you've done a Rivian or electric G-Wagon, like, you can't go back to like regular cars after that. P Car Photos, "What underrated, uh, by the way, I that, I saw that guy in Malibu on Sunday. What's up to him? What underrated car community or niche deserves more attention?"

• 55:33Matt Farah?

  Texas Quail Rigs, for sure. Texas Quail Rigs are dope as fuck, nobody's talking.

• 55:39Speaker 01

  That's like the Safari thing, right? With the benches on the front and stuff?

• 55:41Matt Farah?

  Sick.

• 55:45Speaker 01

  Front-wheel drive drifters, you know?

• 55:48Matt Farah?

  Skid plate racers?

• 55:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, no one's paying attention to them.

• 55:51Matt Farah?

  Sure. We should pay more attention to skid plate racers. I mean, I, I don't know. I, I, I don't discover a new car community very often. I mean, there's, if there's, if there's like a group of like 25-year-olds that have like Model Ts and shit, let me, let me see what they're up to. If they're doing something cool, like, let's, let's see what that's about.

• 56:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:15Matt Farah?

  I want to see like the very young people that are working on like brass-era stuff. Like them kids we met at Audrain. Like those guys, they're doing something interesting. This, these are kids who grew up and they go, "You know what I want to do is like, figure out how to fix cars that are 100 years old."

• 56:29Speaker 01

  That's true. Yeah.

• 56:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Doug's De Niro, that's pretty good. You guys are getting better at this. Picked up my first premium watch, an Omega Seamaster. After three months, it has its fair share of light scratches and dings from everyday wearing activities. That is superb. How do you come to terms with the potential damage or patina when wearing your high-end watches?

• 56:55Matt Farah?

  I mean, oh, and then he says, how do you come to terms with the potential damage of wearing your watches out in the world? This is a $4,500 watch, but I can't imagine having the confidence to wear a 100K watch out in the world. I mean, I don't, I don't wear 100K watches out in the world, so I understand. But, um, I think, let me put it this way. My father has been wearing a Rolex Submariner, no date, since he bought it brand-new in 1990. Pretty much every day. He now has a couple other watches, but that's new for the first, for the last three or four years. Up until then, for 40 years, he wore this one watch every single day.

• 57:40Matt Farah?

  And it's a little faded, and it's got scratches on it, and, um, I guarantee you two things. One is that someday he will die, and when he does, I will wear the fuck out of that watch. And he has other watches that he's bought, including this unbelievable Patek that he's never worn. It's in the box, in the safe somewhere, and he says it's for me. He bought it for me. And I said, okay, well, can I just have it now? No, it's for you when I die. I don't, I don't want a dad's dead, here's a consolation prize new Patek. Like, that's not my idea of a good time.

• 58:23Matt Farah?

  You know, if we're talking about inheritance, the beat-up Submariner that he wore every day, that's the one I want. I don't really give a shit about this other thing. Yeah. It's just a thing that's worth money, but besides that, like, who cares? Um, so, and also like I have watches like that my dad gave me, the two watches that he's given me. Um, both Rolexes, both beat to shit. They they got scratches all the best. Memories, they've been around and now when I showed, look at that, oh, that's great. That's that's the fucking patina. You're not gonna break that watch. I mean, you could, you might like actually break it, it could be fixed. But like little scratches and stuff like, oh, just, it's all good.

• 59:06Matt Farah?

  You don't, you don't see them from more than a couple of feet away and no- nobody cares. I get, the other thing I could guarantee you is if my dad went to sell that watch today. He decides I'm a piece of shit who doesn't deserve it and he wants to sell it. I guarantee you, adjusted for inflation, he makes a profit. There's no question in my mind that he could then, he could take that to Craft and Tailored or any of these guys that buy hot vintage.

• 59:32Speaker 01

  The watch he's worn every day.

• 59:33Matt Farah?

  The one he's worn every day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that one. One owner, one service, never polished, nicked up, but running great and looking good. That's a, that's a desirable watch right now. So this dude's watch could be that one day. Maybe his kid wants it and that and those nicks and stuff are, those are his dad's life.

• 59:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a sign of a life lived. That's the thing. And like cars with paint chips and stuff like that.

• 59:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. Um, I understand if you've got something really expensive. Yeah, I, I get it. You don't wanna scratch it up. I only take, I only take really good care of one watch that I own and it's because it's gold. And gold like scratches, scratches, scratches.

• 1:00:15Speaker 01

  I was shocked at how quickly my wedding ring went from being round to not round. I was like, whoa, it's been a month.

• 1:00:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. So go, the, the one gold watch I have, I treat, I treat a little more gingerly. Everything else, fuck it, who cares? Angela's breast. I still don't know what that means.

• 1:00:32Speaker 01

  I don't either. I just Googled it and I got some strange YouTube videos that are saying like, here's how to pump breast and I didn't click on them.

• 1:00:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:39Speaker 01

  So I, I don't know, maybe that, maybe this person's a new parent and they, they think their world is everyone's world. I don't know.

• 1:00:45Matt Farah?

  Uh, yeah. Uh, a while back I asked about what cars are practically imperfect but perfect for their ethos. Is the Alpine the gold standard of this? I mean, yes and no. It's not that impractical. It's not that impractical. The only thing about it that's impractical is that you may have to adjust your... It comes with its own luggage, and that's annoying, instead of using your own luggage. Other than that, I don't think it's much of a sacrifice to drive that car.

• 1:01:17Speaker 01

  Someone explain that that's a horny version of Angela's crest. Angela's breast.

• 1:01:22Matt Farah?

  Oh. Oh. I think, okay...

• 1:01:27Speaker 01

  I feel dumb now, David and Ethan.

• 1:01:29Matt Farah?

  No, but it's Angelis, not Angela's. If it was A-N-G-E-L-E-S, breast, highway, that's the joke. That's the joke, yeah.

• 1:01:39Speaker 01

  You need highway. I think it works, like, Los Angeles, Angeles.

• 1:01:44Matt Farah?

  They really, they need to workshop it. They need to workshop that a little bit.

• 1:01:47Speaker 01

  Version two, add highway, and you got it. H-W-Y.

• 1:01:50Matt Farah?

  Granny shifting, not double clutching like you should? I realize you're not super fond of these questions. Would you rather own a first-gen Ford GT or a 911ST? Hmm, that's very interesting.

• 1:02:04Speaker 01

  Talking about the 04, 05?

• 1:02:05Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the 04, 06.

• 1:02:06Speaker 01

  That one, yeah, that.

• 1:02:07Matt Farah?

  It depends. If I... If I wanted a car that I was gonna drive once a month? Or if I was gonna have a car that I was gonna drive every day? Once or twice a month, Ford GT. Hundred percent, not even a question. Drive it 200,000 miles as much as possible, ST. The ST could just be your car. There's no reason the ST couldn't just be your car. You can't, you couldn't do that with the Ford GT.

• 1:02:35Speaker 01

  Very true.

• 1:02:36Matt Farah?

  There's no trunk.

• 1:02:37Speaker 01

  There's not enough fuel in the world.

• 1:02:38Matt Farah?

  There's no trunk. You can't, like, park next to other people. It's amazing, but it's also, like, super annoying.

• 1:02:47Matt Farah?

  Uh, Mark Farah, the tired smoker. That's kind of actually good. Did I spot Misha in the crowd at Abu Dhabi in the F1 movie?

• 1:02:56Speaker 01

  I think he's Misha from, uh, what, Sharugan?

• 1:03:01Matt Farah?

  Oh, Misha.

• 1:03:02Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:03:04Matt Farah?

  Oh, I wasn't looking for him. I'm not sure I could see him out of context.

• 1:03:08Speaker 01

  Also, the crowded shots, there's a lot of people, but, um...

• 1:03:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:12Speaker 01

  Would we try to take a thing?

• 1:03:13Matt Farah?

  Given the opportunity, would you take a stab at serious racing? I mean, I don't have it. I don't have the thing. That Senna said, "If you do not go for a gap," I don't have that. I don't go for those gaps. I am a really good teammate on an endurance team. I'll fucking, I'll run that number. If the lap time is one, if you're fucking, if Pat Long can do this track in 1:30, I can do a 1:28 100 times in a row. That's what I do.

• 1:03:47Speaker 01

  Wait, if Pat Long runs it?

• 1:03:48Matt Farah?

  I'm sorry, a 1:32. Excuse me. Excuse me, I'm sorry. I can do a 1:32 100 times in a row and bring the car back perfectly shiny, stop right in a box. So I'm a good teammate, but I don't have the fucking, the kill thing.

• 1:04:03Speaker 01

  I would try it, but I don't think I would be up front, but I would happily try actually racing. I mean, it's all about funding. So if I had lots of money and I was like, "I'll do a season of Spec Miata," just to do it, sure.

• 1:04:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:22Matt Farah?

  Bad Gardner has a question and is fishing for a thing that there sure exists but doesn't. Wants to know the best or craziest sponsors offers that we've declined. There isn't some crazy thing where we could have like, made all this money and it was, and we were like, "Oh no." I mean, there was going to, you know, there was like, there were opportunities to be like literally paid mouthpieces for OEMs, and we declined those. And those come up all the time. But they're not usually, it's not usually, "Give our car a good review." It's "Come do a speaking engagement at our corporate thing," and we turn those down.

• 1:05:09Matt Farah?

  There really are, you know, there's like, there's like weird boner pills and weird supplements that are, you know, not FDA approved and unverified, just it's, most of it doesn't even merit a response. Chinese, just total junk products, crypto scams, I mean, the number of crypto scams are...

• 1:05:31Speaker 01

  There was a year where like every month I'd get a DM on Instagram that was, said like, "Hey, how much do you charge for a shout out?" And I looked at the profile and it was just made up bullshit finance stuff.

• 1:05:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah, every one of those that I've gotten, I get, I get, I get probably two or three a day. "How much for a shout out?" They're all crypto farms. And I go, "I don't do crypto, bro. Why not, bro? We are not, we are not coin, we are farm." What, what does that mean? Like, go away, like weird. But yeah, there's, none of them are crazy. They're all just stupid and/or fake or scams.

• 1:06:07Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 1:06:10Matt Farah?

  Bald, bearded and beautiful. With modern synchro transmissions, is there any value in double clutching as opposed to just heel and towing? No, there's no value in double clutching a modern synchronized transmission. You do not need to do this anymore.

• 1:06:28Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 1:06:30Matt Farah?

  What is it? Panic at my disco. That's pretty good. Yeah, we could workshop that a little bit. What is it about OEMs that drive them to design and implement car features that the masses generally do not want or need? Why does Cadillac develop doors that close with a button in the Escalade IQ, even though an equivalent amount of effort is required to just pull it shut? Same principle applies to electronic folding rear seats. Why, okay, all right, all right, hang on a minute. This person has a rant that has a 100% objective answer to it. Why, why does Cadillac have doors that close with a button?

• 1:07:15Matt Farah?

  Because that's considered luxurious. Rolls Royce does it. They're copying Rolls Royce.

• 1:07:21Matt Farah?

  Cadillac is not original. Cadillac hasn't had an original thought in a really, really long time. They just, whatever Rolls Royce is doing, they copy it on a budget, right? So, that, the electronic door glows, that's Rolls Royce. Electronic folding seats, that's, that started with like Audi or Range Rover or something. They're just copying it. Electro, if you have a giant SUV, electronic folding rear seats is luxurious. Um, I would argue that, uh, your, your theory that customers don't want or need, if they're paying a hundred and fifty thousand dollars, they're saying it better have this.

• 1:08:03Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:08:04Matt Farah?

  Because the Jeep Grand Wagoneer for sixty seven five has it, or whatever.

• 1:08:08Speaker 01

  And if you have a deep trunk and the old way to fold your rear seat is to like, reach way forward, unclasp the thing, push it forward. If you're a shorter person, or a person with some sort of physical ailment, or you just don't want to because you have money, like hitting a button is nice.

• 1:08:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Uh, follows up, why can't OEMs fix real problems? Do you think this is a joke?

• 1:08:30Speaker 01

  No, I think this is real.

• 1:08:32Matt Farah?

  Here's the list of real problems. A cup holder that will fit my hydro flask. Last I checked, the hydro flask is like a big bottle.

• 1:08:40Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, it's very, it's a big cylinder. And what's funny, and not to talk shit at Panic, but like, you say the masses. A lot of people drink, use hydro flasks, but I'd say right now more people use Stanley cups, for example, and Stanley cups taper at the bottom. And I think, look, this forerunner, the center console was, would be wide enough to fit one hydro flask. I own, I have a hydro flask. You could fit one, or you could have two cup holders.

• 1:09:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:04Speaker 01

  So, that, the masses use cups.

• 1:09:06Matt Farah?

  You're talking about a huge bottle. That's bigger than any cup holder on the market, basically.

• 1:09:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:12Matt Farah?

  So, that's not a real problem.

• 1:09:14Speaker 01

  And then it's limited to only fitting that thing versus if you go into a, a gas station and you buy any number of sodas or Red Bulls or whatever, like, I think designing cup holders that can fit a wide variety of beverages is a challenge many engineers undertake every year.

• 1:09:28Matt Farah?

  And there's good cup holders and not so good cup holders. But, uh, saying, why can't you fix a real problem like making a cup holder that's bigger than like any cup ever?

• 1:09:40Speaker 01

  It's very specific.

• 1:09:41Matt Farah?

  Or, or dashboards that don't become sticky over time?

• 1:09:46Matt Farah?

  I mean, some of that is really out of their hands because they don't know what happens to this car.

• 1:09:53Speaker 01

  In 20 years.

• 1:09:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:54Speaker 01

  I think they don't want to. Like, the next example is, why don't they make headlamp assemblies that don't cloud up? They don't want them to cloud up. Yeah, that now something is breaking down in the glue or whatever, and then if the engineers know that's happening for 20 years and never fix it, well, then they're just being cheap. Or the accountants are being cheap.

• 1:10:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:13Speaker 01

  Or it's a, you know, you need to go to Dupont and say, please make me a new kind of glue to hold these things together.

• 1:10:20Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:20Speaker 01

  But they don't want.

• 1:10:21Matt Farah?

  I don't, and I don't think anyone made a dashboard or buttons that where they said, we're gonna put these in.

• 1:10:27Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:10:27Matt Farah?

  And they're gonna be sticky over time. And like, they're always trying to come, you know, manufact- it's like, it's it's like when a manufacturer takes shit for when a car is not reliable 15 years after it was sold. It's like, dude, I get it. They're trying to, nobody wants to make an unreliable car. But, but they're trying to make it get to the end of their warranty. And after that, like, you know, they're honoring this car presumably for a pretty reasonable period of time.

• 1:10:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think it hurts their reputation if, if the lenses in the headlights fog up or get condensation within a lease cycle.

• 1:11:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:04Speaker 01

  Then they have a problem. Like, then that is a poor design. But if it's eight years later.

• 1:11:08Matt Farah?

  And if you're talking about luxury cars, luxury features in luxury cars, those are always going to be technologically on the lead. They're, a luxury car is about cramming technology and features into it until you get to Rolls Royce.

• 1:11:24Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, wasn't the line, I think Clarkson said, if you want to know what every car will have in 15 years, look what Mercedes has today.

• 1:11:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:30Speaker 01

  I don't know if that's true anymore, but it was true for a long time. And if you're gonna be the first one through the door developing a new technology, Japan will be the one that will make it super reliable and a lot less expensive, but it's gonna be 20 years later.

• 1:11:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And if you're making an electric SUV with a fucking 200 kilowatt hour battery, why wouldn't you make it do some fucking electric dance shit? You know what I mean? Like, make all the, Tesla made all their doors electric and close in the Model X, like.

• 1:11:59Speaker 01

  And it got a lot of eyeballs, and it was kind of a cool entertaining thing to do, and those doors broke a lot, but.

• 1:12:04Matt Farah?

  Don't get me wrong, like, I, I, it's.

• 1:12:09Matt Farah?

  I don't know what this, what would actually make this person happy, other than someone custom building a car that's just for you and that lasts 30 years.

• 1:12:18Speaker 01

  Biggest couple.

• 1:12:19Matt Farah?

  But is also a lux, you know, also luxurious, you know?

• 1:12:24Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 1:12:27Matt Farah?

  Alejandro says, new 4Runner or Land Cruiser for 90% daily driver with once a quarter off-road trip, like a BDR.

• 1:12:37Speaker 01

  Have you driven the new Land Cruiser? I have not.

• 1:12:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I did.

• 1:12:39Speaker 01

  But after looking at the pricing of 4Runners, I would definitely go test drive a Land Cruiser if I was doing 90% on-road.

• 1:12:46Matt Farah?

  I...

• 1:12:50Matt Farah?

  Without really, I mean, yeah, the Land Cruiser I drove was like a middle of the road one. And then this is the TRD Pro 4Runner. So, I didn't go, I didn't really go trim for trim.

• 1:13:03Speaker 01

  No, but I think we go dollars for dollars. That's how I'm thinking about it.

• 1:13:06Matt Farah?

  I don't, the Land Cruiser I drove was only a little more expensive than this fully-loaded 4Runner.

• 1:13:16Matt Farah?

  It didn't feel like it did more. I mean, it had like a lot of the same stuff in it. It held basically the same amount of people and things for me. Do you need a third row? Because Land Cruiser was a third row and the hybrid, but they had, they both had the hybrid engine. The Lexus one I drove with the six-cylinder, I didn't love. I'd probably rather have the hybrid engine, to be honest with you.

• 1:13:45Matt Farah?

  Either of those vehicles, in almost any trim, would be able to do a BDR Trail. I mean...

• 1:13:51Speaker 01

  We did the BDR in Accents and Previews.

• 1:13:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah. But you could get through it with like, without a scratch in a Land Cruiser or a 4Runner, for sure. I mean, are they worth it at 60 to 70K? Like...

• 1:14:06Matt Farah?

  I mean, kinda. I, I, I don't know what the comp- I haven't priced the competition, so I don't know. Everything's expensive now.

• 1:14:14Speaker 01

  Everything's expensive, but I mean, the 4Runner we drove was 12 grand more than the Ranger Raptor. That's like a $57,000 car.

• 1:14:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:21Speaker 01

  And if you're going off-road capability comparison, like, they're even.

• 1:14:26Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:27Speaker 01

  So I think that's...

• 1:14:28Matt Farah?

  The Ranger Raptor was definitely a better value for money than either of the Toyotas.

• 1:14:33Speaker 01

  Now, I think you don't need, I think the thing I would tell Alejandro is someone like you doesn't need the TRD Pro.

• 1:14:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:38Speaker 01

  There are a number of different trims below it that started in the 50s that are like 4Runner, off-road, whatever the name is, their names are not very good, but that have four-wheel drive and decent clearance and all this shit and will do the BDR and also save you $15,000.

• 1:14:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:53Speaker 01

  So look at those.

• 1:14:53Matt Farah?

  We had to get to some pretty technical stuff today before needing to engage low-range or any of the technologies.

• 1:15:02Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:15:02Matt Farah?

  You know, regular 4x4 mode that comes with any 4Runner or Land Cruiser would get you up this trail without trouble.

• 1:15:11Matt Farah?

  I don't know. And also, like, which one do you like looking at? If you ask me, the, the 4Runner looks better than the Land Cruiser. But that's just my opinion. The Land Cruiser's, I like the Land Cruiser's interior better. The 4Runner has the same interior as the Tacoma and the Tundra, and it's very much like fucking Monster Jam interior. It's like Riverside County, flat bill, Monster Jam. It's not classy.

• 1:15:39Speaker 01

  No, it's just very knobby, function-y, yeah, all that stuff.

• 1:15:44Matt Farah?

  Joe says, "What's your opinion on painting cars with paint from other manufacturers?" No opinion. Do whatever the fuck you want. Have fun.

• 1:15:51Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:15:52Matt Farah?

  There's no opinion on colors. Enjoy yourself.

• 1:15:55Speaker 01

  Then do it.

• 1:15:56Matt Farah?

  I saw someone did a Frozen Berry Spider RS, and I saw it, and it looked pretty cool. It's gold wheels.

• 1:16:02Speaker 01

  The Asins that were here, I looked at the green and I was like, "That's what I want my car to look like." Put that green on an E46, all day.

• 1:16:10Matt Farah?

  Nino Pinto Santa Maria, that's pretty funny. Is a $6,000 R53 Mini Cooper S as good of a project track car bargain as it seems? Them's expensive to fix.

• 1:16:22Speaker 01

  Well, I love the term, is this a good project bargain? You go, well, it will be a project.

• 1:16:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, you're gonna blow it up, um, for sure. Uh, they're, they're not great track cars, but, uh, but, I mean, 6,000 bucks is a pretty, pretty low amount of money to risk for a car that's pretty fun to drive, so.

• 1:16:42Speaker 01

  So fun.

• 1:16:42Matt Farah?

  They're a good time. Um, I don't have an STI, says, uh, I want a V8 rear-wheel-drive manual experience for under 75,000. Arizona back roads, C7Z06 or Shelby GT350R. I would have the Shelby 350R.

• 1:17:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:02Matt Farah?

  C7Z06s don't do much for me. And if you want to do an Arizona track day with a C7Z06, get used to limp mode. Them's don't have the coolings.

• 1:17:12Speaker 01

  You could also look at used C8Z51s for that money.

• 1:17:15Matt Farah?

  Yup.

• 1:17:16Speaker 01

  Oh, you want a manual?

• 1:17:17Matt Farah?

  V8 rear-wheel-drive manual? And I don't think you're, are you, you're not getting a 2015 Viper for that, are you? Isn't it weird that Vipers, like, fucking Gen 5 Vipers have like the best resale value of any car ever?

• 1:17:32Matt Farah?

  If you could get it, I'd, if you're into a track day, you'd rather have a Viper than a C7Z06.

• 1:17:38Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:17:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it won't overheat.

• 1:17:41Speaker 01

  Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, that's true. That's very true. I was like, I've only driven Vipers on the street and, uh...

• 1:17:46Matt Farah?

  Vipers are fun on tracks.

• 1:17:48Speaker 01

  Unique seating position and everything is daunting.

• 1:17:51Matt Farah?

  350Rs.

• 1:17:52Speaker 01

  That's the best.

• 1:17:53Matt Farah?

  That's all right. Uh, let's see, um...

• 1:18:00Matt Farah?

  Okay, here from Matt's Cats. I want to put actual exhaust tips on my Volkswagen Atlas and get rid of the fake plastic exhaust and the downturn tips under the car. I'm not sure how to pick something that will look natural. Any advice? Okay, can we get a picture of the rear of a Volkswagen Atlas? My gut says to not do this, by the way.

• 1:18:26Speaker 01

  I think I know what you're talking about.

• 1:18:27Matt Farah?

  I know where your brain is going, but I really don't recommend you do this. And it just won't, okay, so that top left is the photo we want there, that gray. So those are fake, those outlets, and there's, the muffler is behind the bumper. And there's a, you can kind of see, can you see it in there? Does that photo not?

• 1:18:51Speaker 01

  It doesn't.

• 1:18:52Matt Farah?

  Oh, bummer.

• 1:18:53Speaker 01

  It doesn't really zoom out.

• 1:18:54Matt Farah?

  So, well.

• 1:18:56Speaker 01

  Here's why I wouldn't do this, because the engineers didn't, I'm betting the engineers haven't put heat shielding in there.

• 1:19:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:04Speaker 01

  The exhaust goes in a direction that they planned for, and if you send exhaust out the back, you might melt the bumper, tailgate, like you might fuck up something, you could literally cause a car fire, and it might not be insured, because they're like, "You did what, sir?" I would not do that.

• 1:19:18Matt Farah?

  And for what? What is the upside of this? I mean, the upside is a thing about this car that bothers you maybe doesn't bother you, but like, you're not going to put an aftermarket exhaust in this thing. It makes, at the most, 275 horsepower.

• 1:19:35Speaker 01

  I do understand the instinct, because I remember, early on in this job, when you started seeing cars with the cool, like, metal slats, but then you saw the pipe, was either set back from it, or just turns down, and you go, "Oh, well, that's..."

• 1:19:48Matt Farah?

  That's stupid.

• 1:19:48Speaker 01

  ...misinnenuous, like, I always, can I connect those tips or something like that, but in this case, you can't change the exhaust routing to go through a body panel without some pretty significant risk.

• 1:19:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and the upside of it is so low. I see, especially, now that you're looking, now that we're looking at this.

• 1:20:08Speaker 01

  If you get it chromed.

• 1:20:09Matt Farah?

  It really does look terrible with the fakes. And I understand why you would not want it to look like that, because it does actually look kind of stupid. Well, in the side profile, they've really made the Atlas look a lot like a Benteke, haven't they?

• 1:20:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, you can really see the hard points there.

• 1:20:24Matt Farah?

  In these press photos, whoever shot these press photos, who was that, Michael Simari? Shout out to him, that looks just like a Bentley Benteke right there. Nice job. Um, so anyway, I, I really wouldn't. Um, even if you were to find an aftermarket exhaust for this thing, which like, who would put an exhaust on this? Who would bother engineering one?

• 1:20:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:20:48Matt Farah?

  Um, it's not gonna go through the bumper.

• 1:20:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:20:51Matt Farah?

  You'd have to, you'd have to fully, fully fab this from scratch. And even then, imagine you set your Atlas on fire.

• 1:21:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:21:01Matt Farah?

  Just because you were like, I don't like those fake ones that are just like everybody else's fake ones. Yeah.

• 1:21:07Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 1:21:10Matt Farah?

  Oh, look at that. You, XO Performance. There are, people do make exhausts for this dumb thing. That's crazy.

• 1:21:16Speaker 01

  Like, this one just dumps out under the floor.

• 1:21:18Matt Farah?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:21:18Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:21:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. That one's just got a dump.

• 1:21:21Speaker 01

  Where's the XO Performance?

• 1:21:22Matt Farah?

  Uh, second row, second from the right. That. There's eBay exhaust. That looks like it has a dump too.

• 1:21:29Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah. And something else, uh, every now and then, you know, someone will have a product, they'll be like, oh, I found a Chevy exhaust. I'm gonna rebrand it as an Atlas exhaust and sell it on eBay and you can't refund your money.

• 1:21:39Matt Farah?

  Third row, third row in the middle, the, the vertical, the vertical photo, one down, one left. Real tips on an Atlas.

• 1:21:45Speaker 01

  Oh, my God. On a VR6 Atlas.

• 1:21:47Matt Farah?

  On a VR6 Atlas. Okay, so here's a guy.

• 1:21:49Speaker 01

  Reddit has everything.

• 1:21:50Matt Farah?

  And by the way, this doesn't look that good either. This only looks okay.

• 1:21:54Speaker 01

  Well, these are like Corvette tips.

• 1:21:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they're weird. So scroll down, does it say, does it have a thing? Uh, okay.

• 1:22:05Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it doesn't, it's just, uh, hmm.

• 1:22:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I don't know. Go back up to the photo. It's, it's not my favorite.

• 1:22:16Speaker 01

  This is a bad choice. But also, this person, the tips terminate after the bumper.

• 1:22:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:22Speaker 01

  So they're having, so you'd have to do that also because they're probably worried about the heat. Just don't do it.

• 1:22:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, just don't do it.

• 1:22:29Speaker 01

  And I'm saying dude because there's no way a woman would ask this question. No way.

• 1:22:34Matt Farah?

  Um, barbecue sauce on my titties. On Doug's podcast, he mentioned the average Rolls Royce Spectre buyer is thirty-five. A lot of Rolls Royce depreciation is based off of maintenance costs, but if it's electric, that doesn't equate because it's electric, will they depreciate more or less? They will depreciate more because they're electric. And there is no evidence that an electric Rolls Royce will be any less maintenance than the gasoline one. Uh, and my guess is that the average Rolls Royce Spectre buyer is very much brought down by China.

• 1:23:13Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:23:14Matt Farah?

  By the number of people like in their twenties in China buying those.

• 1:23:18Speaker 01

  Well, it's also, it's a coupe.

• 1:23:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:20Speaker 01

  And people who don't have kids and families and whatnot buy coupes.

• 1:23:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:24Speaker 01

  And once they do, they go, I would like the Cullinan, please.

• 1:23:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that too. Um, I think they will depreciate very, very fast as all luxury electric cars do. Christian says, can you scroll down? Um, when I fondly remember my E thirty-nine BMW, I think of how solid the interior felt. Uh, out of all the cars you've driven, what stands out with the better interior, best interior build quality? Bentley. I mean, just anything from Bentley.

• 1:23:56Speaker 01

  Did everything, everything worked off, I mean?

• 1:23:58Matt Farah?

  In my car?

• 1:23:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:59Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah?

• 1:23:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I mean, my, my car was made of fucking metal and wh- I mean, it was, that thing was built unbelievably well. Um, I've never been in a Bentley that wasn't put together impeccably.

• 1:24:15Speaker 01

  Um, I would say, uh, on the other side of the mileage coin would be like LS four hundred, you know? Cause you can put five hundred thousand miles on them and everything works and feels good.

• 1:24:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah, those were.

• 1:24:25Speaker 01

  Even the seats.

• 1:24:26Matt Farah?

  When they were new, they really, really did held up, hold up very well. Um, Prashawn says, "On an old podcast, I prefer the SLS AMG GT to the 997 GT3 on track." You rarely talk about SLSs compared to 997s these days, and I'm, you're curious if you still feel this way. I think that was probably the last time I ever drove a 997 GT3 on track, so I don't, nothing has happened that would change my opinion, but I, I wouldn't buy either of those cars to do track work today. I just think they both, they would both feel old today. I mean, that, that was,

• 1:25:11Matt Farah?

  the newest SLS AMG is like a 2013 and the, and the newest 997 is a 2011, so, I mean, um...

• 1:25:21Speaker 01

  What year did we drive that SLS black across Europe? Is that 2013 or 12?

• 1:25:25Matt Farah?

  No, the black series was 15. That was the end. So I guess it was 13, 14 maybe for the, for the GT. Um, SLSs, I think, I've always thought the GTs were really nice. Those are, those are great cars. They're great road cars. They're fun as shit. Um, they were a lot better than the early SLSs, and I think time will be very kind to them.

• 1:25:55Matt Farah?

  "Would you rather drive a VQ-swapped RX-7 or a rotary-swapped 370Z?" Wow, is that just like the...

• 1:26:03Speaker 01

  This is auditory torture.

• 1:26:05Matt Farah?

  God, that's just like the worst possible...

• 1:26:11Matt Farah?

  Probably, probably the FD RX-7 just because the chassis is better than the 370Z.

• 1:26:19Speaker 01

  Ah, oh God, that's terrible. Um, yeah, I'd go RX-7 just because, just based on looks.

• 1:26:26Matt Farah?

  Uh, Alfa Romeo and Giulietta, "I like cats, but how do I prevent them from walking and sleeping on my car outside?" You gotta put a cover on your car, I think.

• 1:26:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:37Matt Farah?

  Car's warm.

• 1:26:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:39Matt Farah?

  That's why they're there. They're there because it's warm. Um, yeah, I mean, I presume you're talking about like random strays, not your own cats. Uh, not much you can do about that. I would say get a cover. Uh, here, uh, oh, there we go. Here for Matt's cats, are some kinds of modded cars better poised for dealer trade-in as opposed to private sale? Or do modded cars need a private sale for best results? No, if you're going to a dealer, you need that car to be stock.

• 1:27:06Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:27:07Matt Farah?

  Do not, do not try. A dealer will double fuck you for your car being modded. They're gonna go, I have to put this back now and it's gonna cost me all this money.

• 1:27:16Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:27:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah, cuz they can't sell a modded car.

• 1:27:19Speaker 01

  We have a friend who has leased or financed several new cars in the last five years and modded the fuck out of them, including cutting hood, like vents in the hood. And he always puts them back to stock before turning them in, so follow his way.

• 1:27:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Um.

• 1:27:39Matt Farah?

  Okay. Rage against the touchscreens. Uh, what is your opinion of the relationship between Delta Airlines and Porsche? And if you were advising on their car partner strategy, what would you do for loyalty perks?

• 1:27:55Matt Farah?

  First, for the record, I've never been shuttled anywhere in a Porsche because of my Delta status or my automotive journalist status. Um.

• 1:28:06Matt Farah?

  My opinion of it, like, I...

• 1:28:10Matt Farah?

  I mean, I think it's smart for Porsche. And I think it, you know, if Delta's gonna have a... A car anyway to partner with, Porsche's North American headquarters is like at the Atlanta airport, which is where Delta's headquarters are. So that's, that's why that makes sense. There's a PEC, uh, at the Atlanta airport. So, um... I mean, what would I do for loyal? I don't know about the second half of that question, but like, I don't see any problems with it, other than they've never given me any rides. That's by far the biggest problem.

• 1:28:47Speaker 01

  This quick Google on simplyflying.com says you can pay Delta 350 bucks for a person transfer. They'll drive you from one plane to another, but it doesn't guarantee the Porsche. It might actually just be a golf cart or something else.

• 1:28:58Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 1:29:00Speaker 01

  I don't think JF has even had it. Like, my old boss flies more than anyone we know.

• 1:29:05Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:05Speaker 01

  Works for Porsche a lot, like, and I don't think he's ever been in one either.

• 1:29:09Matt Farah?

  No, I mean, it's probably, it's probably, well, first off, JF is United, not Delta.

• 1:29:13Speaker 01

  Oh, that's right.

• 1:29:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah, so he wouldn't.

• 1:29:15Speaker 01

  That's right, he wouldn't.

• 1:29:16Matt Farah?

  I mean, it's, I don't know, it's a gimmick, right? It's not like a real thing. It's not actual, it's not like an actual airport transfer that you can count on, but like, you know, if you're super status and it's a long way from one connecting flight to another and they show up at the thing and they take you in the Cayenne, that's alright. I'm not, I'm not against that. Chris Limbright says, Joseph Kozinski has had two movies in a row where he's been able to capture what it feels like to fly in Top Gun Maverick and to drive in F1.

• 1:29:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah, okay, whatever. What should he do next? Maybe something in the 90s that involves cigarette boats or something with hydroplane boats?

• 1:30:01Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:30:02Matt Farah?

  No?

• 1:30:03Speaker 01

  Because, I mean, this movie would not have been made right now if Liberty Media and Drive to Survive weren't so successful.

• 1:30:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:10Speaker 01

  So you need, you need to build the masses' interest, and right now, the masses' interest is definitely not in cigarette boats.

• 1:30:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:16Speaker 01

  Or hydrofoils or anything like that. So you gotta figure out, like, what are people paying attention to, and then they wanna feel like they're in the seat of. And Top Gun, the first one, did a great job of that, and everyone wants to be a fighter pilot because it looks like fucking awesome.

• 1:30:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah, war propaganda's so cool.

• 1:30:31Speaker 01

  It was very effective, but like, would you not wanna go Mach 2 and then, you know, bank left? Or maybe I want that because of the movie.

• 1:30:36Matt Farah?

  I was like, they have, look at all these brown people I could kill. These like ambiguous brown people? Like, they're not, like, they're-

• 1:30:45Matt Farah?

  They're they're they're Balkans, so they're not like, they're not like white.

• 1:30:48Speaker 01

  Who are they fighting in the first one? I forget. I know he gave you, right, so.

• 1:30:51Matt Farah?

  Straight up Russians.

• 1:30:52Speaker 01

  The Cold War was fresh, freshly over.

• 1:30:54Matt Farah?

  Now they can't be so on the nose.

• 1:30:56Speaker 01

  Well, that's why Top Gun two, it was just faceless.

• 1:30:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah, ambiguous, not quite brown.

• 1:31:01Speaker 01

  No, you couldn't see anybody. They were just wearing helmets.

• 1:31:03Matt Farah?

  But not quite white, right? Like, it wasn't black people because it was snowing there, right?

• 1:31:08Speaker 01

  Oh, right on the ground. There was a ground fight. I forgot. I was thinking about that air.

• 1:31:12Matt Farah?

  It's gotta be, it's gotta be Balkans. It's gotta be something with a stand in it.

• 1:31:17Speaker 01

  Eastern Europe something.

• 1:31:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, you know, what's the difference, really? You know, you're you're you're hitting them with a PS2 controller from the fucking couch there back in, uh, whatever it's called.

• 1:31:29Speaker 01

  Oh, wait, in Vegas?

• 1:31:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, or wherever.

• 1:31:32Speaker 01

  Drone Center is.

• 1:31:34Matt Farah?

  Is that where it is in Vegas?

• 1:31:35Speaker 01

  That's one of them, yeah.

• 1:31:36Matt Farah?

  Is that what, that's where they fucking murder people from?

• 1:31:39Speaker 01

  Well, it's where a lot of, uh, drone pilots are based, is just outside Vegas, yeah.

• 1:31:44Matt Farah?

  Some in India too, right? It's cheaper.

• 1:31:46Speaker 01

  Uh, I don't know.

• 1:31:47Matt Farah?

  They haven't done that yet?

• 1:31:48Speaker 01

  I don't think so. That's more of the, um, Amazon shopping thing.

• 1:31:53Matt Farah?

  Did I tell you about my my neighbor who told me, he's like, bro, he got he got this new bookkeeper. He's fucking great. He's like, so cheap, gets it done, never complains. Oh, yeah? Where are you finding? Virtual Latinos. It's called virtuallatinos.com, the company that supplies you with remote workers, like MBAs and CPAs and stuff.

• 1:32:14Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:32:15Matt Farah?

  Virtual Latinos, bro.

• 1:32:17Speaker 01

  I feel like if there's something I don't want to save money on, it's my accountant, like.

• 1:32:20Matt Farah?

  I think this one's, this one seems to be okay. I don't know. This guy's, I don't know.

• 1:32:24Speaker 01

  All right.

• 1:32:24Matt Farah?

  He might be doing crimes. I don't I don't think so.

• 1:32:26Speaker 01

  It depends on how much money you're saving too. My accountant doesn't have to do that much, so I'm like, I'm happy to pay you this.

• 1:32:32Matt Farah?

  This guy owns like forty apartment buildings.

• 1:32:34Speaker 01

  Okay, so he's got a lot of numbers being done.

• 1:32:35Matt Farah?

  Seems like he needs a virtual Latino.

• 1:32:37Speaker 01

  On the other hand, if he owns forty apartment buildings, can't he afford to not outsource his work?

• 1:32:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah, but he, I think, saves money by outsourcing it to them. I don't. My employees all work in this building.

• 1:32:49Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:32:49Matt Farah?

  I can't outsource.

• 1:32:50Speaker 01

  Right. Okay.

• 1:32:52Matt Farah?

  I even had a conversation with somebody who was like, you should have an AI phone answering thing. I was like, but we have people. They're like, but AI. I'm like, but there's humans like that are here.

• 1:33:02Speaker 01

  They're here.

• 1:33:02Matt Farah?

  They're actually here, yeah.

• 1:33:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, they have time.

• 1:33:06Matt Farah?

  I don't know. Joseph Kaczynski, what should he make a movie about?

• 1:33:12Matt Farah?

  What would you like to see?

• 1:33:14Speaker 01

  I mean, space is always cool, but I don't know if we need another space movie just yet.

• 1:33:18Matt Farah?

  That would be a good use for Bezos' penis rocket.

• 1:33:22Speaker 01

  But he doesn't really go to space.

• 1:33:24Matt Farah?

  Sorry, we wanted to use it, but like...

• 1:33:27Speaker 01

  A little too low, the altitude's too low.

• 1:33:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I don't know, man, but Zack is totally right. You either need a war propaganda machine behind it, or he needs to tap into something that's already, it's already going.

• 1:33:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:33:42Matt Farah?

  What else is there? What else is that?

• 1:33:45Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, like, uh, what's the show? Live Golf?

• 1:33:48Matt Farah?

  FPV Drone?

• 1:33:48Speaker 01

  Golf has their own Drive to Survive now. Oh, it's called like Swing?

• 1:33:53Matt Farah?

  Full Swing.

• 1:33:54Speaker 01

  Full Swing. So maybe they'll have to do that, and then they'll make a golf movie. We haven't had a serious golf movie in a while, have we?

• 1:34:00Matt Farah?

  Happy Gilmore 2 is coming out.

• 1:34:02Speaker 01

  Right, that'll hold up, I'm sure.

• 1:34:04Matt Farah?

  It'll be great.

• 1:34:05Speaker 01

  So maybe they'll make a golf movie and really put you, you know, on the green. I don't know. That wouldn't be a good use of his skills.

• 1:34:13Speaker 01

  Oh, you know what they'll do? MotoGP. That's what they'll do.

• 1:34:16Matt Farah?

  Motorcycles.

• 1:34:18Speaker 01

  Because Liberty Media just bought MotoGP.

• 1:34:21Matt Farah?

  Isle of Man would be a better movie than MotoGP.

• 1:34:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a good one.

• 1:34:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:25Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:34:26Matt Farah?

  Especially, and then what they have to do, someone's gonna die making it, and then it becomes a whole, you know, thing.

• 1:34:32Speaker 01

  I hope not.

• 1:34:33Matt Farah?

  But that's just what happens. I mean, film a TT, someone's gonna die making it.

• 1:34:37Speaker 01

  That's true. I thought, yeah, it's, depends on if they film it during the event, or if they just film it aside from the event. So, it's a gnarly thing. That's a good call. I bet they do...

• 1:34:48Matt Farah?

  Isle of Man.

• 1:34:49Speaker 01

  I bet they do MotoGP gets the interest, and then they go, what if we make an Isle of Man movie?

• 1:34:53Matt Farah?

  Well, that's, if they make the movie, right, if we follow the formula, they need a new rider for their MotoGP team. But they go to like Dakar, and they go to like the TT to get the guy.

• 1:35:05Speaker 01

  Find the guy at the TT.

• 1:35:06Matt Farah?

  Right, and that's where they find, um, who play, who's gonna play the guy?

• 1:35:11Speaker 01

  One of those people?

• 1:35:12Matt Farah?

  Michael Fassbender, like...

• 1:35:15Speaker 01

  He's too, he's too old to be the new person.

• 1:35:17Matt Farah?

  The guy in The Gentleman?

• 1:35:19Speaker 01

  I haven't watched that show.

• 1:35:21Matt Farah?

  Jacob Lorde, he's very hot right now.

• 1:35:24Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:35:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 1:35:26Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:35:26Matt Farah?

  But motorcycles, it seems like, that seems like a probably a good one.

• 1:35:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:35:31Matt Farah?

  Cause everybody wants to be on a bike, even if they don't admit it.

• 1:35:34Speaker 01

  It's true.

• 1:35:34Matt Farah?

  Right?

• 1:35:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, you feel like a superhero.

• 1:35:36Matt Farah?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:35:36Speaker 01

  I regret buying a motorcycle. I was thinking about that on my camping trip, cause like, maybe my body wouldn't be fucked up, but it still makes you feel like a superhero when you ride around.

• 1:35:45Matt Farah?

  What if you regret buying a motorcycle when you were younger, but like, got one now? Do you think you'd have, approach it differently, or do you think it would be just the same?

• 1:35:53Speaker 01

  Oh, if I never got one younger and then...

• 1:35:55Matt Farah?

  But you got one now.

• 1:35:57Speaker 01

  Ooh, that's a good question. I'm sure I would approach, well, yeah, when I was 25, I thought I was never gonna fall down, cause I was the careful one of the group. Sure wasn't. I was, I was the careful one of the group.

• 1:36:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the careful one, it's a, but it's a sliding scale.

• 1:36:09Speaker 01

  It was a sliding, indeed, it was sliding indeed, my friend. Yeah, I think I'd be more careful, but, um, who knows?

• 1:36:18Matt Farah?

  Um, that last question, that's, doesn't make any sense. Um, it doesn't. So, you know, we wanna, we wanna do all the questions, but every once in a while it comes up and goes...

• 1:36:27Speaker 01

  Tell me choose between four very different classes of cars.

• 1:36:28Matt Farah?

  That's not gonna, that one's not gonna help there. Um, we love you guys. Thanks very much for playing along with us today. We very much appreciate you. Go check out all of our videos in all of the places, but most importantly, if you're in Dallas and/or Houston, or both, hit the link in the description of this podcast to get tickets to our live show at the end of July. Meet us and hang out for some drinks, and some podcasting, and some Christian James Hand music breakdowns, which is what I'm really going there for.

• 1:37:02Matt Farah?

  Thanks, everybody.

• 1:37:02Speaker 01

  You're bringing him just so you can watch the show.

• 1:37:04Matt Farah?

  Yes. Well, we'll see you later. Bye.