The ZR1 is INSANE; Wooden Manx; M3 Wrenching; Q&A

Matt put some wood in his Manx buggy; gives us more detail on how crazy the Corvette ZR1 is to drive (on road and track); Zack did some voluntary (for a change) wrenching; they discuss the inherit flaws of FWD-based AWD cars; we have a new way to hurt ourselves, and Patreon questions include: Our scariest moments in a car. What event would we enter? Which new-retro cars would we gift each other? Best 2 cars garage: a daily GM and fun Porsche or daily Porsche and fun GM? Who is the new 2026 Honda Prelude for? Would we buy back a former car? "Normal" cars that we loved Is a convertible more dangerous for a college kid than a sedan or coupe? That new angelesdeathhighway Instagram page. Best cars from the '80s and '90s for under $100k How to own an EV in a REALLY cold climate And more! Recorded October 7, 2025 DeleteMe Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to https://www.joindeleteme.com/TIRE and use promo code TIRE at checkout. Smalls For a limited time get 60%$ off your first order when you head to https://www.smalls.com/tire Rula Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/tire #rulapod TruWerk Get 15% off your first order at https://www. TRUEWERK.com with Code: TIRE New merch! Grab a shirt or hoodie and support us! https://thesmokingtireshop.com/ Use Off The Record! and ALWAYS fight your tickets! For a 10% discount on your first case go to https://www.offtherecord.com/TST Want your question answered? Want to watch the live stream, get ad-free podcasts, or exclusive podcasts? Join our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thesmokingtirepodcast Instagram: https://www. Instagram.com/thesmokingtire https://www. Instagram.com/therealzackklapman

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• 0:00Matt Farah?

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• 1:25Speaker 01

  We are alive.

• 1:28Matt Farah?

  I don't believe you.

• 1:31Speaker 01

  Oh, Schrodinger's, wait, well, the cat can see itself in the box.

• 1:36Matt Farah?

  Schrodinger's producer.

• 1:41Speaker 01

  So you want to see the broadcast and then you'll know?

• 1:44Matt Farah?

  That won't be enough.

• 1:46Speaker 01

  Jesus.

• 1:48Matt Farah?

  Hi, hello, wow, it's, uh, it's 10:15 a.m. I have been at work for four hours because I had a stack of bills like this because I had been gone for two weeks, but I got them done, so I'm able to actually think about doing this show now, as predicted. Getting here at like, that early was a good move.

• 2:11Speaker 01

  You had four hours of bill paying?

• 2:13Matt Farah?

  I had about... Three hours of bill paying, yeah. Dude, when I, when you travel for that long at the beginning of the month, when you have like businesses and stuff, it's like bad. I mean, the bills weren't late, but they were just.

• 2:26Speaker 01

  I didn't know how many.

• 2:27Matt Farah?

  They were plentiful.

• 2:28Speaker 01

  Things, like you got like water, power, wifi, and there's clearly far more things.

• 2:34Matt Farah?

  There's a bunch more, there's like lift maintenance, elevator maintenance, uh, there's, oh boy. Well, there's, there's also water and power and all that for three different buildings. And a house. It's, there's, it's okay. There's just, when you're gone for a while, it takes a lot of time to do that. But that's okay. That's what this list was. The list was all of these lists, plus whatever came in in the mail. But I came in the mail and I crossed 13 things off the list and there's only 19 things on the list. So like, that's pretty good for the first four hours of a day back from a two week trip, I think.

• 3:13Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 3:13Matt Farah?

  That's pretty, pretty productive and only using decaffeinated coffee, mind you.

• 3:21Speaker 01

  Oh, cause you're out of coffee here.

• 3:23Matt Farah?

  No, cause I didn't want to have caffeine, cause if I tried to look at this list and all those bills while having 10 ounces of caffeine, I'd probably have a panic attack.

• 3:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Uh, but wow, what have you been doing?

• 3:35Speaker 01

  Uh, I pulled apart my intake manifold last night.

• 3:39Matt Farah?

  Oh.

• 3:40Speaker 01

  So I did that, um, to install this Aventury, call it a hybrid airbox. So it's sort of a cold air intake, but it uses the MAF thing. So it's going well so far. No problems.

• 3:51Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 3:52Speaker 01

  And this is on the disassembly part, so we'll see what happens with reassembly, of course. Trying to pull up a photo, but I have to restart switch.

• 3:59Matt Farah?

  How long do you anticipate reassembly to take?

• 4:03Speaker 01

  Um, I don't know. I asked, uh, Matt, very nice person over at Aventury, I was like, how long does it? And I, I phrase this, I said, how long does this take a normal person? And he said, four to five hours.

• 4:14Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 4:14Speaker 01

  And I was like, all right, I'll divide it in two days, you know, did two hours last night. For me, I'm gonna say four more. Just, just knowing me and like, taking breaks for my back and stuff.

• 4:25Matt Farah?

  A normal person, if you ask an expert, what a normal person is, they probably think it's someone more qualified, maybe than you. Although you've done like a decent amount of wrenching on this car.

• 4:39Speaker 01

  I have, but there's always, like, I've never taken this whole intake plenum off before. Um, and so, like, getting it underneath those wires that we're going across. At first, I was like, do I have to take these out? But no, you just have to move and push more than I feel comfortable with.

• 4:53Matt Farah?

  That's the crazy.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  That's the thing I don't know. They don't put that in the notes of like, no, no, just push, jiggle, and then tilt.

• 5:01Matt Farah?

  Push, the definitive, the glossary of terms. Push, jiggle, tilt, you know?

• 5:06Speaker 01

  It needs that, because the Pelican parts guide, which was pretty good, but it just says, "Remove plenum." You're like, "Right, I've unhooked the things. Remove plenum."

• 5:15Matt Farah?

  Ooh, you have jumped, uh, you have put a lot of steps into one step.

• 5:19Speaker 01

  The big, so here's the old one, but the biggest thing that honestly surprised the shit out of me is that this thing weighs like three to four times more than the carbon one. I was shocked, because this is a piece of plastic. Like, it's a plastic box. I expected it to weigh what a lunchbox weighs. It probably weighs 12 pounds.

• 5:36Matt Farah?

  Wow.

• 5:36Speaker 01

  Right? Just for like a big, empty, open thing.

• 5:39Matt Farah?

  Uh, maybe it's because it's plastic that is gonna get really hot, over and over.

• 5:45Speaker 01

  It's probably, I think it's thick.

• 5:46Matt Farah?

  It's thick. It has to, it has to, like, it is, it's probably used as a thermal regulation device in some way.

• 5:54Speaker 01

  And it also has to be vibration-proof for hundreds of thousands of miles. You know, in many ways, the most reliable thing in the engine. Um, but, uh, yeah, so the new one should be mounted, uh, tonight, if all goes according to plan, so people can see it at the, um, the Willow Springs Cars and Coffee, or on Instagram if you don't live in California.

• 6:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah, so that's happening. That's this, this coming weekend. I guess this, this show is, is gonna air in the same week as this, so if you're in or can be in LA, you know, October 11th, uh, the Willow Springs Reimagined event, uh, Zach and I are gonna be out there. We're gonna be doing a live show, uh, that you will not have to pay extra for, uh, once you're inside the venue. There is a- I think it's 20 bucks to get in, but it does, it all goes to charity. Um, and they're going to be showing all the plans for the new track. There's going to be a bunch of cool vendors involved. There's going to be track demonstrations, um, some vintage cars. It's gonna be pretty cool.

• 6:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:50Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm pretty stoked on it, honestly. And, uh, I am gonna bring the pink car, I think.

• 6:58Speaker 01

  That seems to suit that place.

• 6:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Uh, and, and Zach will have the M3 and it'll be fun. So, uh, come on out. You can buy a ticket. Just, I think, just go to follow, find Willow Springs on Instagram. There's a link to their.

• 7:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a link to an Eventbrite and that's where you pay for it.

• 7:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Uh, and I think there's some extra high level of ticket as well that you can get some special thing maybe.

• 7:20Speaker 01

  There are several tiers. None of there, I don't remember them being crazy expensive. And one is like a car show entry.

• 7:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  If you want to be a part of that, I think. Um, but yeah, go to the, just go to the Instagram.

• 7:29Matt Farah?

  That's where we're gonna be.

• 7:30Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 7:30Matt Farah?

  We're gonna be in the car show area. Speaking of which, I heard Lyft was good this weekend in North Carolina.

• 7:36Speaker 01

  Oh, I didn't see it.

• 7:37Matt Farah?

  The photos look nice, as they always do from Lyft. Uh, and I guess my old car was there. Uh, my Safari.

• 7:44Speaker 01

  Oh, cool.

• 7:44Matt Farah?

  Got tagged a lot in Instagram, uh, for that one. So I'm glad people enjoyed seeing that.

• 7:51Matt Farah?

  Um, but I was up doing, uh, I was up finishing Performance Car of the Year, which was so fun. It's the, the power of, uh, back-to-back comparisons is, uh, pretty unbeatable, man. Pretty. Yeah, this, uh, this drive at the end of the day here with the, uh, what I, I mean, not necessarily the four, one of the four, uh, guarantees to win, but the four fastest cars we had, uh, with the ZR1, the Temerario, the GTD and the GT3. Me and some of the other guys took turns with these on a, on a very good road for, uh, for like an hour and very nice.

• 8:29Speaker 01

  Very cool.

• 8:29Matt Farah?

  Very, very nice.

• 8:30Speaker 01

  That livery on a 911 is crazy.

• 8:33Matt Farah?

  That's a, that's a, I don't know if it's factory or dealer or either, but it is available as an option. It's like 4,000 bucks. Um, it's vinyl, not paint. Um, but I'm really glad they put it on that GT3 cause I, it's a much nicer thing to show in a magazine than a, just a white car.

• 8:54Speaker 01

  Definitely.

• 8:54Matt Farah?

  It's definitely fun. Uh, and that GT3 is, that's so funny. I don't know if I said this, um, last time, but, uh,

• 9:05Matt Farah?

  When you drive a base nine eleven, you're like, oh yeah, all you need is a base nine eleven. Like you don't need the op, even if it's a GT three, like this thing had like no options, like base seats, sticks, steel brakes, it was white, other than the stickers, like not even sport chrono, like, you know, they sent this thing to do track work and had like nothing on it, which is fun.

• 9:27Matt Farah?

  But the uh, when you drive a base nine eleven, you're like, ah, all I ever need is a base nine eleven. And, and when you drive a loaded one, you're like, oh, the options are what totally make this thing important, you know,

• 9:41Speaker 01

  Right.

• 9:41Matt Farah?

  Whatever one you've just driven is like it.

• 9:45Speaker 01

  Well, cause I guess the car is good enough and you're having a good time in the car. And then you look around and you go, what does this car have that must be making the difference? It's funny that we're like ignoring the car and they go, ah, it's gotta be these option seats or these other things.

• 9:57Matt Farah?

  Chassis, so, um, but you know, some of these things, the GTD and the, um, and the Lambo, the ZR one on the street are pretty, pretty, pretty psychotic. I mean, these are, these are some antisocial automobiles. They are, they are, oh, oh, man.

• 10:21Speaker 01

  Super fast, super loud.

• 10:22Matt Farah?

  These are fast and loud and crazy. And, uh, in the case of the ZR one, like I, I can't believe they're just selling that to people. It's like a set, you know, it's like a seven, six, five or something like, oh my god.

• 10:37Speaker 01

  With way more power.

• 10:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's heavier than a seven, six, five. It doesn't have the carbon tub. It does have 200 more horsepower and, uh, I think a seven, six, five might at, might, was probably a little quicker, uh, and is definitely a little. Scarier.

• 10:58Matt Farah?

  Because the ZR1 also has more like, I think, more tire or like 765 spun the tires more. The ZR1 did put the power down a little better.

• 11:09Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 11:11Matt Farah?

  In a, in like a straight line.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  I mean, I will say like, this is speculation, but Corvette has had such good like performance track, like traction management for years and years and years and worked on it, worked on it, worked on it. And maybe that's where some of that magic comes from.

• 11:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the 765 is a few years old too. They've had one, you know, there's one around that they could try and benchmark. But uh, it was, uh, it's, that's, it's crazy that they're selling that to people. And for, I mean, respect to the fact that, you know, 200K is a ton of money, but for quote, so little money is pretty, pretty wild. Cause you could, you know, you could also daily one, like, just like if you get that, like, if you get a less like tracky one, this one had the carbon wheels and the sticky tires and like the super dirty alignment, you could get like a more regular one that has a smaller wing and, you know, more summer high performance tires, but not the sticky ickies.

• 12:09Matt Farah?

  And you could pretty much daily that, just like any other car.

• 12:13Speaker 01

  The grand touring edition, basically.

• 12:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it'd be a thousand horsepower.

• 12:16Speaker 01

  Right? That's super.

• 12:17Matt Farah?

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• 16:36Matt Farah?

  yes, it's different, it's turbos and all that, but like, the difference between the ZO6 and the ZR1, most of the time isn't much, and the ZO6 still sounds better. The ZO6 is like, it definitely sounds, especially, the last day, it was really sunny and we took the top off, and it was pretty funny, because most people like, most people, even the road and track people, like, kind of forgot that the top comes off on, on those, and, uh, we took the top off, and I was expecting, like, you know, I was like, a revelation, but actually, it's better with the top on, because it kind of contains some of the noise.

• 17:13Speaker 01

  Oh, it's like a resonance box, sort of, oh, right. I was next to a ZO6 in traffic, like, stop and go, and I went, this thing sounds good.

• 17:19Matt Farah?

  The ZO6 with the top off is awesome. Like, I'd, by money, I'd probably still get a ZO6. The ZR1 is just psychotically fast.

• 17:28Speaker 01

  Right, you don't need psychotically fast, you know, if you don't live in Nevada, or someone with really long, straight, uncontrolled roads and a runway. Close course, of course.

• 17:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the, the, the real differences happen like over a hundred miles an hour, you know, between six, seven, or really not a hundred miles an hour, because that's not accurate, because the ZR1 is faster all the time. The difference has happened at over seventy-five percent throttle, which when you have a ZO6 is rare. Like, be honest, you're not, you know.

• 17:58Speaker 01

  What do you mean when you have a ZO6?

• 17:59Matt Farah?

  If you have a ZO6.

• 18:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:01Matt Farah?

  You're flooring it not that often.

• 18:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, true.

• 18:05Matt Farah?

  Because that's a ton of power to use on the street. Flooring it and, and shifting at red line. Rare, pretty rare, even if you've got a fast car. That's a small percentage of time that you're driving.

• 18:15Speaker 01

  True.

• 18:16Matt Farah?

  Just can't, you can't drive like that. Nobody can drive like that on the street. So the difference between the ZO6 and ZR1 happens in that last twenty-five percent of throttle. So it's like, if you, only if you have the circumstances to use that a lot, does it become

• 18:31Speaker 01

  Right.

• 18:32Matt Farah?

  important. Same thing with any fucking fast EV. Like, how often are you flooring a base one? Like, probably pretty rarely.

• 18:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, true. I mean, true of most cars, especially beyond eighty miles per hour. You know, some people might floor it to get onto the highway and they're like, wah, wah, wah, and then they're at traffic speed. But continuing past that, where a lot of, you know, the thousand horsepower plus cars really start to show their technology.

• 18:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 18:59Speaker 01

  You're just not doing it very much.

• 19:00Matt Farah?

  It's pretty rare.

• 19:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah, even if, even if you drive like aggressively in the canyons or whatever, bless you, you know, once a car is over like five hundred horsepower, you just don't have room for that.

• 19:11Speaker 01

  Totally.

• 19:11Matt Farah?

  Trust me, I, we, I've done it, I've tried. There isn't fucking room, like, and if there is, if you try to make room, your luck will run out sooner rather than later.

• 19:23Speaker 01

  One of the rules in our house is that Sarah can't buy a car with over five hundred horsepower because she's not prepared for it.

• 19:29Matt Farah?

  Well, I, I had a.

• 19:30Speaker 01

  That's a lot.

• 19:31Matt Farah?

  I would say, I, I would say I spun on track, I spun. I spun the ZR1, I spun the, uh, I spun the Lambo once.

• 19:47Speaker 01

  During drift shots or just driving fast?

• 19:48Matt Farah?

  No, no, no, doing drift, no, while intending to slide, I spun the M5 probably twice. Um, cause the M5, it took me a while to, to, to figure out that you need to slide it with

• 20:00Speaker 01

  You need no throttle.

• 20:00Matt Farah?

  Exactly 2% throttle, not 6, 2. Otherwise, it will just insta-spin.

• 20:08Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 20:08Matt Farah?

  Um, but, uh,

• 20:12Matt Farah?

  but the only like time, uh, where I, I, I had a near whoopsie while not, not while trying to do a slide for a shot was the ZR1 on the front straight. You know, I just kept felt like, I kept feeling like, you know, I'm just, I could brake a little later, brake a little later, and on the next lap, I, I tried to brake like,

• 20:37Matt Farah?

  half a second later, and boy,

• 20:39Speaker 01

  It's a lot of feet.

• 20:40Matt Farah?

  Boy, was that a lot of feet at the speed I was going, and the front wheel didn't go in the grass, but it was probably six inches from the grass.

• 20:51Speaker 01

  Now, you made the corner, but you were very close to the grass?

• 20:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, I made the corner, but I was like 20 feet offline, and I had to do like a full ABS.

• 21:02Speaker 01

  And you point straight a little bit.

• 21:03Matt Farah?

  In front of like, in front of everybody.

• 21:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:06Matt Farah?

  Because when, when I, me and, uh, Mike Austin was doing the laps, on the first day, um, I'm sorry, in the first half of both days, only me and Mike Austin are allowed on track. The whole rest of the editorial team does their like, uh, uh, uh, round robin, or whatever you call it, rotation of the cars in the afternoons, because he's doing lap times and I'm doing videos, and they don't want other cars on track for either.

• 21:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:34Matt Farah?

  So like, which makes sense. So like, when I was driving that car, and like, but while he's in the pits, they're getting a V-box in the next car, they're changing all that stuff over, that's when I go out, and I've got 10 minutes while they do that, and then I come in, and he goes out, it's like reasonably efficient, um, but I'm the only one on track, so everybody, everyone else has to stand around, they're all watching, no one is doing anything else.

• 21:59Matt Farah?

  Don't cook it right there.

• 22:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, and because then they're all sitting there going, I probably wouldn't have done that. Yeah, maybe, maybe, but I just know what, yeah.

• 22:06Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, done. I mean, it happens and it does happen. Jethro, Jethro fucking looped the Aventador last year like a hundred miles an hour and had a serious code brown, although nothing was broken. He was, you know, he was really pushing.

• 22:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's.

• 22:22Matt Farah?

  Did I say Aventador? Revuelto.

• 22:24Speaker 01

  Revuelto.

• 22:26Matt Farah?

  Hmm, but.

• 22:28Speaker 01

  Perfection is impossible or very difficult, you know, even.

• 22:31Matt Farah?

  And I, when I fucking spun the ZR1, it was right in front of Mark Urbano. Um, and I knew he was there. That's why I chose to do that. But I was just like, okay, we're going 360 and like foot to the floor, like banging rev limiter, did a couple 360s before continuing on. And he was like, you know, doing the exit from the cloud of smoke, like that piece of shit driving will probably be like the cover shot or something.

• 22:57Speaker 01

  Do they have extra tires for you for that stuff? Like?

• 23:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the ZR, they sent a bunch.

• 23:02Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 23:03Matt Farah?

  They sent, uh,

• 23:06Matt Farah?

  five sets of carbon wheels and tires.

• 23:09Speaker 01

  Wow, okay. That's what I'm so jealous because.

• 23:12Matt Farah?

  Someone told them Ferrari sent seven, yeah.

• 23:14Speaker 01

  When we used to make the TV shows, they, it was rare that an OEM would send a set of tires. So we had to be much more careful with them. And I'm so jealous that you're just like, I'll just rip a couple of threes and then we'll swap these babies over.

• 23:25Matt Farah?

  It was, uh, that was an end of the day one where it was like, okay, these, you know, Mike, uh, whoever's setting the lap times gets fresh tires. And then like, we'd use whatever's left at the end of the day. We swap them for the next day. So the, you know, whoever else gets some fresh tires. And then sometimes, occasionally they'll send three sets. Usually they'll send one extra set, a good one on the car, an extra one for the track, and then a set of road tires. Cause they'll, they don't want you driving, you know, 600 more miles on like shot ass R combines, which thank God, you know, some of them, some of them, uh, the first road driving day after we did our last podcast, it, look at the GTD, it fucking pissed rain all day. And.

• 24:13Matt Farah?

  I have to give a lot of respect to the uh multi-matic wet driving traction control program. Because it did keep the car in line, although it was fucking misery.

• 24:25Speaker 01

  Did you ever switch it but to normal or whatever just to see the difference and you went, oh, that's doing a lot?

• 24:30Matt Farah?

  Uh, yeah, it, well, I could, you know, I could tell the difference. It really changes the throttle mapping as well. It dials down, you know, your, the, the throttle position. Which is good because I was in bumpy roads and it rides kind of rough, so.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  A messy car?

• 24:42Matt Farah?

  It was a, a dirty, dirty girl, that car. This fucking thing had a, that GTD had a, had a week. Man, and actually, I think, I think, I think we have, we contributed. There was, I don't, I don't see a reason not to say that we did this. No one gives a shit. Um, you know, the, the GTD came with two uh multi-matic babysitters. Uh, who were, who were fucking pretty cool. Uh, I don't want to say their names just in case, but they were fuck, they were chill. They were a good, they were a good time and. And they didn't have to do anything. Like, the car, uh, the car like behaved itself on the road, so they were just like sitting around. So, on the road, we'd be like ripping this section of road that had fucking nobody on it.

• 25:26Matt Farah?

  I mean, even by the standards of our canyons, like, this road was aw.

• 25:31Speaker 01

  Was it above Thunder Hill?

• 25:32Matt Farah?

  It was, no, it was to the west. It was, yeah.

• 25:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know, yeah.

• 25:37Matt Farah?

  And so, but these guys, the car was working fine, so they didn't have to do shits. They're chilling. So at some point, one of them mentions that they've never been in a Lamborghini. And I'm like, oh, well, like, fucking, I gotta go drive this one, like, come for a ride. And then it was like, you know, then, and then, you know, we're talking, he's like, yeah, you know, the boss keeps, uh, keeps. You know, getting on us because like the ZR1, you know, beat us around the Nürburgring and whatever. I was like, oh, have you been in a ZR1? And they're like, no. And I was like, all right, well, you need to go in a ZR1. And then talk about it. He was like, oh, fuck me.

• 26:09Speaker 01

  He's like, oh, that's how it beat us?

• 26:10Matt Farah?

  Oh, that, you know, that's what's happening. And I was like, yeah, imagine you guys like started with a Corvette instead of starting with a Mustang, you know, you might be there. But uh, but no, we like, we took them for like, you know, rides in a bunch of the cars. And so they really got a good, a good like spread of knowledge about what everyone else is doing. So on behalf of uh, Canada.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  It was like some of the, some of the, you know, the manufacturer stuff, like they do rip cars apart. They drive the competition, but some of the engineers never get to, or they never get, we've talked about this with Corvette. They never get to drive their own cars.

• 26:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 26:43Speaker 01

  So it's interesting to see who has experienced what, but hopefully that it does inform them a little bit when they go back to Multimatic.

• 26:49Matt Farah?

  And to be, to be very clear, we weren't letting anybody drive any cars. They were just like going for rides and stuff. So uh, so it was, it was, it was pretty fun. It was a really good time. I very much enjoyed that. And then drove to Pebble Beach, little golf with the old man. Oh, um, and uh, and yeah, 2,000 miles on that Audi RS3. Dude, the uh, that car, uh, the, the, the brake fluid was really boiled after the second track day. And uh,

• 27:24Matt Farah?

  I had to drive it like 800 more miles. So the whole way home, I'm like, oh, this brake pedal is like so soft.

• 27:29Speaker 01

  Was it really?

• 27:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And it wasn't, it's got carbon ceramic fronts, but 12 different people driving it on the track. And then like, you know, ripping on it pretty hard on the road. Like, yeah, the fluid was just toast. It needs, needs a service and a flush and uh, but pretty good car. Gotta be honest. No, uh, no issues at all with it, uh, that, that wouldn't be totally expected, given what it went through. And actually it was really good on tires. We switched, we, we switched the set of tires once because we had them. And you know, why not? Um, you know, and, and uh, but yeah, even after like my track day at Sonoma and about a, a track day and a half.

• 28:13Matt Farah?

  No, I'm, we know we should, should, yeah, two full track days at Thunderhill. There was still like over 50% tire left. And like it's a press car. Like people were not being kind to it. They were trying like torque rear mode, slidey mode.

• 28:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:29Matt Farah?

  Which.

• 28:31Matt Farah?

  You know, that is, it's cool, it's a novelty, it does help the car rotate through corners uh better than uh you know, most uh front-wheel-drive-based all-wheel-drive cars. Um but at the same time, it's it's it's a little inconsistent with how, like all of them. All of those ones are like the Focus RS and the Golf, they all like, the way they actually shift the power to the rear in order to step the back out, you could do the same thing every lap and on that corner where you want to do the slide, it will not behave exactly the same way. And that's frustrating.

• 29:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think there's just, there's so many, so much computing happening. And then if the grip changes slightly between inside, inside rear, outside rear, because it's trying to send all that torque to outside rear.

• 29:18Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 29:18Speaker 01

  If it hooks up too much because the tire's warmer or something, like it can't spin it, doesn't rotate as much.

• 29:23Matt Farah?

  Totally.

• 29:23Speaker 01

  It's it's very different from a rear-wheel-drive-based all-wheel-drive system. You know, that usually is a lot better at that.

• 29:30Matt Farah?

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• 31:42Matt Farah?

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• 32:22Matt Farah?

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• 33:08Matt Farah?

  Really enjoyed was the Golf R. Um, I didn't think I'd like it as much as I did. On the road, it was like really nice. The seats are fucking awesome.

• 33:16Speaker 01

  When I see those, I get tempted to make that. That would be a very practical switch.

• 33:20Matt Farah?

  That would be a good daily, a good daily for you, I think. And they're like invisible, you know, they put the dog in the back. Those seats, the seats were dope. You know what they did with the seats that I like? They made them, they're, they're shaped like heavily bolstered. But the bolstering isn't like super hard. So it's got, it's got a good bit of give. But then it's got, it's made of this grippy material. So in a lot of ways, it uses the grip of the material. To hold you without being like soup, but they look like buckety. But it's like, it almost feels like a bucket seat made of like, kind of like memory foam.

• 33:58Speaker 01

  That material stuff matters a lot because now when I get into my car, I can't just slide into the seat. I get stuck on the wool. And I'm like, what's happening? Oh, right. It's just because the old leather was so smooth and shiny.

• 34:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I like grippy.

• 34:11Speaker 01

  I think it's gonna be nice in the corners, yeah.

• 34:13Matt Farah?

  The Volvo wool seats have the good, have the good.

• 34:16Speaker 01

  Those are shaped so well. I would put those in anything.

• 34:21Matt Farah?

  They said they would get us some fabric if we wanted to. I was considering doing the manx.

• 34:25Speaker 01

  I want the whole seat. I want the whole, I want the shape of it, the whole thing with the wool tweed and just.

• 34:31Matt Farah?

  Can we like?

• 34:32Speaker 01

  Take it from a.

• 34:33Matt Farah?

  Can we like copart?

• 34:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, probably.

• 34:35Matt Farah?

  Copart in XC90?

• 34:36Speaker 01

  Someone definitely crashed in XC90, leaving their third house.

• 34:40Matt Farah?

  Do the seats have airbags in them?

• 34:43Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 34:43Matt Farah?

  Like in the seat?

• 34:44Speaker 01

  I bet they do. I think, I think most seats do these days. I think a lot of them do. I think, I think.

• 34:50Matt Farah?

  The side curtain airbags from the seat?

• 34:52Speaker 01

  I think in some cars, yes. Like, yeah.

• 34:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah, sometimes it tears or here like.

• 34:58Speaker 01

  Like my car, it's in the door.

• 34:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 35:00Speaker 01

  But some cars you'll see there's an air, like if you're removing the seat, you have to turn off the battery and disable that plug. Because otherwise the airbag will go off in your face.

• 35:07Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 35:08Speaker 01

  Yeah. So having a, it'd be funny as fuck if you had a side impact airbag in your manx, but nothing in the front.

• 35:16Matt Farah?

  Has some safety, but now I have a crate, very excited about my crate.

• 35:21Speaker 01

  Did you post a photo?

• 35:22Matt Farah?

  No, I didn't. I sent those pictures to Ali to tell him what a genius I was.

• 35:29Speaker 01

  I'm the engineer now.

• 35:31Matt Farah?

  Did I talk about this on a previous show? I don't know if I did. The problem with using the Manx as a daily driver is that the shelf behind the seats, which has plenty of space for like, you know, a duffel bag or or, you know, yeah, a couple of duffel bags probably. If you put like groceries or whatever back there, it just, it slides around. There's nothing containing the stuff. And so I bought, I wanted to like, you know, look cool and like, and so there's like a bunch of different like utility boxes you can put back there, but they all looked like, you know, a little contractor-y. So I got on Etsy for like, you know, not a lot of money, like a 60-year-old

• 36:13Matt Farah?

  melon crate, like a farmer's crate, that happens to be like almost exactly the right size to fit that compartment. And they had put these beautiful, like polished aluminum strap downs on either side of that shelf, because I also have a cooler with like a Velcro strap for it. And so I've lost some weight and I have two belts that are too big. And they're belts I wore for like long times, so they're pretty weathered and worn in. So I was able to like make these leather straps for my wooden crate. Now I can put groceries back there.

• 36:48Speaker 01

  Great.

• 36:48Matt Farah?

  And I've got some like real rubber feet, so the crate doesn't like, you know, scrape around on the

• 36:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, good.

• 36:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  I think it's the right size because then on either side of the crate, you can put jackets and stuff.

• 36:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah, there's still a little room.

• 37:01Speaker 01

  Fill it out too much, it'll be too big.

• 37:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And I'm like, oh, this is cool. I'll post pictures on Instagram like later, but it's, it's pretty cool. I'm into it. That was, that was a good move. And you can just take it out, just undo the belts and take it out in two seconds.

• 37:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, very cool.

• 37:14Matt Farah?

  And then you can put the belts in the crate.

• 37:16Speaker 01

  Looks rustic.

• 37:17Matt Farah?

  It does look rustic.

• 37:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 37:19Speaker 01

  Seems like a very light crate.

• 37:20Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And they're also making me

• 37:24Matt Farah?

  a pouch that goes down by your left knee, because there's like nowhere to put anything. Like my keys or whatever, like there's no, I need to just somewhere to put something.

• 37:36Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 37:36Matt Farah?

  So.

• 37:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, you need that.

• 37:37Matt Farah?

  Just a little pouch.

• 37:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:39Matt Farah?

  And then, and then we'll be done with that. Then we can.

• 37:43Matt Farah?

  Drive it just fiend.

• 37:44Speaker 01

  Done, done?

• 37:46Matt Farah?

  Well, done in terms of the customization portion of it. There, there, um, did we talk about the further development they're doing? There's, okay, so the problem that they have been unable to solve thus far is the temperatures at highway speeds.

• 38:05Speaker 01

  Right.

• 38:05Matt Farah?

  Which they've been able to mitigate somewhat, but, but not solve to this point. So if I drive my car at over sixty miles an hour, it will overheat in like ten or fifteen minutes of driving at that speed.

• 38:19Speaker 01

  Right, and they were gonna cut the under tray or something, right?

• 38:21Matt Farah?

  They did that, they did that, and it, it didn't do enough. It improved it five, five degrees, they needed to get it maybe twenty-five degrees. So, um, they're, what they're doing now is a front mount. There is, um, if you look at my car from the front and, uh, whatever, there's an area where you, you could put a front license plate. Like, it's like, there's a cutout, like, it's underneath the little chrome bar. And so they've developed a really nice little, smooth, little grate that goes there. And it's a, it's a loop where the two radiators are in series. So it goes from the engine all the way to the front, hot, hot coolant, goes all the way to the front,

• 39:07Matt Farah?

  cools down at the front, comes back, goes to the big one in the back, and then goes back to the engine there. So it's got, it goes a further distance, and it hits, it gets that front mount, which at higher speed is what you need. At low speeds, the, the, the big one has been totally bulletproof. I've sat in horrific traffic jams, and it's fucking ace in traffic. Like, that's not a problem, the problem is airflow, so.

• 39:32Speaker 01

  Well, when you're moving, maybe there's an air pocket, and so cold air's not getting to that larger one, right?

• 39:37Matt Farah?

  Right, there's just, the, the problem with a Manx is at speed, the entire back half of the vehicle is like in a vacuum.

• 39:45Speaker 01

  Right.

• 39:45Matt Farah?

  Silly, uh, I mean, it just is, and so they've done as much as they can do with keeping everything at the back, but it's still not enough. And so now, we're going with the front, um, which, uh...

• 40:03Matt Farah?

  Okay, so we're gonna get that. And there's some other things that they are, uh, have re-engineered for different reasons that we will also get. We will be getting all, all retrofits while we continue. Fortunately, like, none of this stuff has actually kept me from driving the car. Still a good time.

• 40:19Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, cuz you're not driving on the highway much.

• 40:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 40:22Speaker 01

  Like, you're not commuting eighty miles.

• 40:25Matt Farah?

  I can go from here to Malibu. And that's like, that's all I really need to do. That's as far as I need to go in that car.

• 40:32Speaker 01

  Cool. Uh, correction, uh, airbags will not go off if you disconnect the sensor. Someone corrected me. I was like, I'm spreading forum myth.

• 40:39Matt Farah?

  Fake forum myth news.

• 40:42Speaker 01

  Oh, I have a radial engine story for you, but I need to, uh... Someone sent me an Instagram and they're like, "Do you know the most powerful rotary engine ever made?" Or radial engine ever made?

• 40:53Matt Farah?

  Uh, it's gotta be from an airplane.

• 40:54Speaker 01

  It is.

• 40:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 40:55Speaker 01

  And it's humongous.

• 41:01Matt Farah?

  Is it like twenty liters or something?

• 41:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's one of those things. Maybe I can just look, Google it really quick.

• 41:06Matt Farah?

  While you're looking for it, I went to the, uh, the National Automobile Museum in Reno on this particular trip. And they had this weird car from like nineteen ten or something, nineteen fifteen maybe, that was a radial engine, but not like one I'd ever seen. The entire engine spun horizontally.

• 41:30Speaker 01

  What?

• 41:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. Imagine, the whole block and heads spun like a fucking top.

• 41:38Matt Farah?

  This was one of the worst designs.

• 41:39Speaker 01

  Wait, where'd you see this?

• 41:41Matt Farah?

  At the National Automobile Museum in Reno.

• 41:43Speaker 01

  So, had they, like, locked the crankshaft down and they were showing you how the engine works? But when it's mounted in something... Like, when it's mounted in a car, did the whole engine spin?

• 41:53Matt Farah?

  Yes. They showed, they have a car, they have a car with an engine in it. They have another engine on a stand as a, as a backup, because you need a backup. And they have a video of the car running. And the engine is spinning, the whole engine spins. It idles at like five hundred RPM and redlines at eighteen hundred RPM. Any faster than that, it would like come apart. But think about how fast eighteen hundred RPM is when it's your entire engine spinning.

• 42:20Speaker 01

  What, what in the fuck?

• 42:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 42:22Speaker 01

  What, what did they say was the reasoning for that?

• 42:26Matt Farah?

  Well, it, it, it stays cool. You have these very, you have these very small fins on the cylinder heads. But the engine itself is fucking whipping.

• 42:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, that seems dangerous. That seems wildly dangerous.

• 42:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. It was incredibly dangerous.

• 42:44Speaker 01

  Alright, so this is-

• 42:45Matt Farah?

  Dude, it was, it was the time they were building steam cars. These, those things were like on fire. Like, what's more dangerous?

• 42:50Speaker 01

  That's a good point. I mean, is it-

• 42:51Matt Farah?

  Everything was so-

• 42:52Speaker 01

  And locomotives have all the exposed parts, so they're like, yeah, it's the same.

• 42:55Matt Farah?

  Everything was so dangerous. Okay, Pratt and Whitney R-

• 42:58Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 42:58Matt Farah?

  Forty-three sixty Wasp Major. What are we talking about here?

• 43:02Speaker 01

  Forty-three hundred horsepower.

• 43:04Matt Farah?

  Fuck, yeah.

• 43:05Speaker 01

  The largest displacement aviation piston engine mass produced.

• 43:08Matt Farah?

  Does that say seventy-one liters?

• 43:10Speaker 01

  Yes, sir. Seventy-one point five liters.

• 43:14Matt Farah?

  Oh, wow. Twenty-eight cylinder, four-row radial piston aircraft engine. Wow. The fuck did you go in?

• 43:24Speaker 01

  The manx to end all manx.

• 43:26Matt Farah?

  Wait, wait, wait, wait. It's, oh wait, hang on a minute. Its main rival was the twin-row eighteen-cylinder fifty-four-liter Wright R350. Thirty-seven hundred horsepower.

• 43:38Speaker 01

  That's the cuck engine. Look at this.

• 43:39Matt Farah?

  Wow, what a little bitch.

• 43:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:40Matt Farah?

  Fucking fifty-four liters?

• 43:42Speaker 01

  Although, power per liter, I think, is higher on this, right?

• 43:46Matt Farah?

  Uh, oh yeah, maybe. Yeah, yeah.

• 43:48Speaker 01

  Fifty-four liters, thirty-seven hundred horsepower.

• 43:49Matt Farah?

  Alright, can you, can you, uh, what are the major applications? The Boeing B-50 Super Fortress? Can we see what those look like?

• 43:58Speaker 01

  Stratofreger.

• 44:00Matt Farah?

  A stra- oh, this, so these are big, wow, yeah, okay. These are what, it's what the, think up of the planes that have those big, like, greenhouse-looking fucking canopies.

• 44:10Speaker 01

  With gun turrets all over it, yeah.

• 44:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah, with turrets and shit. That's what you find this in.

• 44:13Speaker 01

  Memphis Belle-type stuff. And I wonder if we can-

• 44:15Matt Farah?

  Man, I bet that, what was that biggie, that big fucking guppy-looking one you just had up?

• 44:20Speaker 01

  Uh-

• 44:21Matt Farah?

  The Strato something or other? Super Fortress? Is that it?

• 44:25Speaker 01

  This thing?

• 44:26Matt Farah?

  No, the other one. I don't know. The other one seemed like it had that one, Strato Freighter. Look at that. The cockpit on that must have the most beautiful view of the world.

• 44:38Speaker 01

  It's extremely phallic looking this one.

• 44:42Matt Farah?

  It's what, very, it's strongly phallic?

• 44:44Speaker 01

  Well, because so many planes, you know, they taper more from the front and this is just like, it's got like a blimp face.

• 44:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the fuselage looks like a dildo.

• 44:54Speaker 01

  But I, but I understand you're saying you have this very tall vertical windshield.

• 44:57Matt Farah?

  Look how many windows there are. There's gotta be like 16 windows on the front.

• 45:01Speaker 01

  That's pretty cool.

• 45:02Matt Farah?

  Right? So I bet that's, that's, that's like flying a plane with like a floor to ceiling windshield. That must be so fucking sick. Can you see if you can find interior cockpit view from this aircraft?

• 45:18Matt Farah?

  Of the Strato Freighter. No, not this one, the other one.

• 45:21Speaker 01

  I keep, oh, the Strato.

• 45:22Matt Farah?

  You have a real problem with this today. There we go, the Strato Freighter.

• 45:28Matt Farah?

  C97. We need an interior cockpit view. I bet that's fucking amazing. But yeah, so those have, that has four of those engines. Four, 4,000 horsepower. Oh, yeah. Cool. It's floor, look, the windows go all the way down below his feet.

• 45:50Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 45:51Matt Farah?

  That is a floor to ceiling, just a wall of glass.

• 45:55Speaker 01

  That's pretty cool.

• 45:57Matt Farah?

  Man, what a view to fly from, huh? I bet that's awesome. Just up there, the windows open, just ripping heaters.

• 46:06Speaker 01

  That's just back in the 40s.

• 46:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah, dude, they're not dogfighting. This is a freight plane. They're not dogfighting this fucking thing.

• 46:12Speaker 01

  They're just moving heavy, heavy stuff.

• 46:14Matt Farah?

  There's an ashtray every like 18 inches in that motherfucker.

• 46:18Speaker 01

  I wanna see, oh, there you go.

• 46:20Matt Farah?

  Yeah, what a great view.

• 46:23Speaker 01

  That's cool.

• 46:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I bet that was fucking great.

• 46:28Matt Farah?

  You think those have autopilot on it? You think those guys are steering the whole time?

• 46:31Speaker 01

  I think back then autopilot was like, you know, mechanical. I bet something holds a stick. I don't know. That's a good question.

• 46:39Matt Farah?

  Some pilot will tell us. Um, okay, two things. One, we talked a couple of shows about uh, my search for an actual, a sneaker-like driving shoe that would pass tech in an actual race.

• 46:55Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 46:55Matt Farah?

  And it led me to the New Balance Pit Crew shoe, which is out of production.

• 47:02Speaker 01

  Okay, yes, because when you brought it up on that show, I had ordered these racing shoes. Um, and I was like, that's really interesting. These look cool. I might get these instead.

• 47:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 47:12Speaker 01

  And the only ones I could find were an 8.5, 8.5 on eBay. And I went, where the fuck are these shoes?

• 47:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 47:18Speaker 01

  So I was wondering where you got them.

• 47:19Matt Farah?

  Out of production.

• 47:20Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 47:21Matt Farah?

  So I, I actually like, they, a website let me order them and then kicked back and said, "Out of production." I was like, "Oh, take them off your fucking website, idiot."

• 47:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:30Matt Farah?

  So anyway, OMP makes a Pit Crew shoe, and this is it. Um, and, uh, I don't know the model, but if you just, just look up OMP Pit Crew shoe. It's very similar to the New Balance shoe. Uh, I'm gonna try to put my orthotics in it because it's not quite New Balance arch support, but it really does, uh, feel mostly like a sneaker and it has a pretty good, pretty good toe flexibility. Like, I would probably wanna wear this around town for a few days before actually racing in it, just because it might, you might wanna like, a little more flex

• 48:09Matt Farah?

  uh, in the toe. So I may just wear this for a few days, but, um, really comfortable, uh, um, SFI rated, um, true to size. This is the right size.

• 48:21Speaker 01

  I see it.

• 48:21Matt Farah?

  And if you are thinking about, uh, getting a driving shoe and you don't like how fucking narrow and stupid... Especially with endurance racing, because you're wearing them for 24 hours, you're walking on the paddock. My knees feel like they're gonna explode if I wear.

• 48:35Speaker 01

  I wouldn't wear them, but once I'm out of the car, unless I have to help with fuel.

• 48:38Matt Farah?

  Well, you know, I'm hanging out, I gotta help, I just end up leaving them on all day, because I'm lazy.

• 48:42Speaker 01

  Then this might be the idea, yeah.

• 48:45Matt Farah?

  But, and if you're not racing like little formula cars, like, we're driving a car that has a street car pedal box. So like, I don't need some fucking tiny little shoes.

• 48:54Speaker 01

  True, but isn't the car you're driving, oh, it's an M3.

• 48:58Matt Farah?

  It's an M3.

• 48:58Speaker 01

  So it's manual transmission.

• 48:59Matt Farah?

  Uh, I mean, it turns out, as it turns out, this is a DCT car.

• 49:03Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 49:03Matt Farah?

  But I, but still, like, I, I still, for anything I'm driving on track, I don't, I don't want little narrow shoes.

• 49:11Speaker 01

  The Sparkos I have fit my wide foot really nice. Um, but I understand if I was driving, I mean, if I, the cars I was driving at Lemons, I wish I had had this wide foot box to heel toe like this.

• 49:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah, because you do left side, right side, right?

• 49:26Speaker 01

  Definitely, yeah.

• 49:26Matt Farah?

  Some people do actual heel and actual toe.

• 49:28Speaker 01

  I did, because I had to with those shoes.

• 49:31Matt Farah?

  I would prefer to not do that.

• 49:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:33Matt Farah?

  I'd prefer to drive like I normally drive, because I'm fucking racing. I want that to be a faster version of how I normally drive. I don't want to relearn my footwork for a fucking, in a competitive situation.

• 49:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, it came back quick, but it was, it was less perfect and required more thought. However, the MGB I drove, the gas pedal. I am not exaggerating.

• 49:55Matt Farah?

  Zach has grabbed a bottle cap.

• 49:57Speaker 01

  A bottle cap. The gas pedal was a square version of this size.

• 50:01Matt Farah?

  What?

• 50:01Speaker 01

  Because they, they hammered out the trans to fit the bigger transmission. And so, the gas pedal, they just used this tiny piece of metal, but all of those came back in. It was impossible to heel toe it, and we're like, can we just add a second bottle cap to the left? And then it would be money.

• 50:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 50:17Speaker 01

  But I understand, like, they shrunk it in every direction, and I don't think they shrunk it vertically. I think that's what it came as, was like this adorable tiny bottle cap. It was, you couldn't heel heel toe it, because there's nothing down there.

• 50:28Matt Farah?

  Oh, man, last show, Zach showed me a photo of what looked to be almost the perfect vintage race car. And then he told me what it was like to drive.

• 50:37Speaker 01

  All he had to do was tap the brakes twice per turn.

• 50:39Matt Farah?

  Five hard gnaws in there.

• 50:41Speaker 01

  That was a good time.

• 50:42Matt Farah?

  And, uh, yeah, wait.

• 50:43Speaker 01

  There was a, sorry, go ahead.

• 50:44Matt Farah?

  No, no, no, no, go.

• 50:45Speaker 01

  There's a story from Lemons I forgot, which is that next door to us, in the garages, was a sim racing team. They were like 15 people at least. They had matching shirts. I don't remember the name of the team. I want to say they were all very nice, so I'm gonna make a little bit of fun of them, but it's just done in jest. They got matching, like sponsored, you know, Under Armour shirts. There's also a huge light because they're shooting and filming a bunch of shit. There's people on the team that are working their way up to driving. They're like helping Wrench manage the team, whatever. They have Miata. I arrive Friday evening. I missed practice and whatever, that's fine. Their engine had exploded.

• 51:24Matt Farah?

  Oh no.

• 51:25Speaker 01

  They had been driving in practice and the engine had gone kaboom. But lucky, lucky, lucky for them, there's a race shop at Button Willow. They happened to have a Miata engine there and they were being paid. The race shop was like, "We'll install it for you tonight. It will cost whatever." So that was happening. I'm like, "Oh wow. I can't believe you guys blew up a Miata engine." First of all, it's hard, but like they showed me the pieces and their big pieces had flown out of the engine. So they get a new engine and these folks weren't just like writing a check like in the morning. Some of them were under the car doing other stuff, buttoning things up. So we, I go out, I start the race, I'm in the MG. They're out there also. I think within 20 minutes, I start seeing white smoke coming from their tailpipe.

• 52:11Speaker 01

  And that smoke trail grows and grows and grows and then soon they're not on the track anymore. They had popped a second Miata engine, which seems impossible. I don't, I just don't know how that like, one of the most reliable cars in the world. I felt bad for them because they had this whole crew there, but like they were probably just surprised you couldn't just hit restart.

• 52:31Matt Farah?

  That's a bummer.

• 52:32Speaker 01

  It was such a bummer. How do you put, maybe they just got really unlucky with the engines that were in there? I don't know if they were super high mileage Miata engines or what.

• 52:40Matt Farah?

  It could be, it could be bad luck. Certainly, certainly one could be bad luck. The first one could be bad luck. The second one, I mean. You know, unknown provenance, you know? Could have possibly had a, could have been on a ticking time bomb potentially.

• 52:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think it dropped, I heard them say like it dropped a valve into something and then.

• 53:03Matt Farah?

  Could also, I mean, a bunch of people who race on computers, maybe they're not so good at stick shift driving.

• 53:09Speaker 01

  I don't know. I wasn't close enough ever to hear.

• 53:12Matt Farah?

  Maybe like, it was fine and then someone fucking money shifted it and didn't tell anybody.

• 53:17Speaker 01

  I didn't pass them in the MG, which made me feel amazing, but I'm sure they were just getting used to their car, so.

• 53:24Matt Farah?

  Oh, it sucks. What a bummer. I think I was on a team once that blew two transmissions.

• 53:30Speaker 01

  You were. That was the last time you did endurance racing, wasn't it?

• 53:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, I, that was the last time I said I would get on a plane to go anywhere to do endurance racing, which, again, I'm about to do in a month, but that's Cota and it's, it's a little more serious car.

• 53:47Speaker 01

  Well, trauma plus time equals comedy. So it's been, that was what? How long ago was that? That race you did with a double trans? Six years?

• 53:54Matt Farah?

  Nineteen, probably, yeah, nineteen, I think, yeah, mid Ohio.

• 53:57Speaker 01

  You're gonna have so much fun.

• 53:58Matt Farah?

  It was a bummer, yeah. Um, let's see, uh, oh, right.

• 54:06Matt Farah?

  So Dylan Optics, our sponsor for 15 years, is, is under new ownership. And, and we have been dropped as a, as an advertiser after 15 years, which I'm not upset about, I understand. I'd rather have, have had an advertiser for 15 years and be dropped under new ownership than, than to not have had them at all. I do, I do wish our person there had maybe given us a heads up so we wouldn't have ordered that extra round of t-shirts for them to include with, with glasses, like. So close to it.

• 54:41Speaker 01

  They should send us a consolation minigun.

• 54:43Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 54:44Speaker 01

  For the t-shirts.

• 54:45Matt Farah?

  But they uh, um, they, they wiped their website. And there's all new like glasses. They got rid of every, all, all the old styles. And so I really had liked these two pairs. So these are the last two pairs of these. And I thought if you wanted one, you can, you can have one. I know you like these.

• 55:04Speaker 01

  Which ones are, which ones are they? I still have two.

• 55:07Matt Farah?

  Do you have two like new?

• 55:08Speaker 01

  I still have two newest in box. Yeah.

• 55:10Matt Farah?

  These are the like, like these, these styles.

• 55:14Speaker 01

  Oh yeah. I have, you, you can keep, I have these ones. I have, well, I have a white one and I have a black one right now.

• 55:19Matt Farah?

  Okay. And they're in good shape?

• 55:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're in good shape.

• 55:21Matt Farah?

  Cool. Because man, this is, this is, I'm, I'm treating these like.

• 55:24Speaker 01

  End of an era.

• 55:25Matt Farah?

  These are the last, like the sponges, like I have to be like, do I wanna, do I wanna bring these glasses?

• 55:31Speaker 01

  Are these Dylan worthy?

• 55:32Matt Farah?

  Cause you, it's not like they were just paying me to uh, wear this stuff. They didn't even pay us all that much. We really, really just enjoyed wearing the glasses.

• 55:39Speaker 01

  True.

• 55:40Matt Farah?

  These are fucking, these are, these are my jam.

• 55:42Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. You know, those, those pairs are for you for sure.

• 55:45Matt Farah?

  I offered to buy the last, the last of them and they said that they would include them.

• 55:49Speaker 01

  And if you're out there and you work at a sunglasses company and you wanna have your sunglasses featured in every single video, uh, we do.

• 55:56Matt Farah?

  Forever. Yeah.

• 55:57Speaker 01

  Uh, hit us up on Instagram.

• 55:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah. So that's fun. Not really, but we got two last, two last pairs of glasses.

• 56:05Speaker 01

  Seventeen years with them, right?

• 56:06Matt Farah?

  Uh, twenty ten.

• 56:08Speaker 01

  So yeah, so fifteen years. Alright.

• 56:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah. They, they, they win the record for longest advertiser by a lot. Um, and then before we get to questions with the people, uh, you know, we're, we're doing a, a really good event, uh, with Road and Track. If you wanna come drive with me in, uh, November. It's gonna be first week of November. Actually, you could fucking double header hang out with me if you want, cause we're going to the Hilton Head concourse. I've never been. Uh, it's in, uh, Hilton Head, South Carolina, right near where my folks place is. So me and the old man are gonna go hang out at, uh, at the Hilton Head concourse for a day or two. Come on down, say hello. That'll be fun. Play a little golf. And then we've got, uh, right after that, starting in, uh, Atlanta, uh, the Blue Ridge 500,

• 56:55Matt Farah?

  which has got, for the first time ever, two track days. We've got, um, Porsche Experience Center, driving Porsches. We've got Atlanta Motorsports Park, driving your own cars. We've got some fabulous hotels. We've got Tail of the Dragon, Chero Hall, a Skyway, and an amazing drive route from Knoxville to Nashville. Um, I ran it in a 911S, um, last month, and it was absolutely fabulous. And actually, I'm driving it in something even better. So if you want to come drive with me, uh, signups are open now, but there's like, I think, four spots left, maybe. It's right, it's, this one's gonna fill up. It's like, maybe four spots left, um, and, uh,

• 57:37Matt Farah?

  down in Georgia and, uh, North Carolina and Tennessee. It's gonna be super, super fun. Experiences dot road and track dot com. Uh, should we go to the people? We've left the patrons hanging for a while. I don't know, did we, did we get much page?

• 57:49Speaker 01

  We didn't do much. We did zero Patreon questions last time, but these are the questions from, that were posted on that show.

• 57:55Matt Farah?

  Oh, from that?

• 57:55Speaker 01

  So I saved them.

• 57:56Matt Farah?

  Do you need that water? Can I have it?

• 57:57Speaker 01

  You can drink it.

• 58:01Matt Farah?

  Okay. All right. If you want to ask us questions for the show, catch the live stream, get the show before everybody else, uh, get the show without ads, or get extra show, patreon.com slash the smoking tire podcast is where you do all of that.

• 58:18Matt Farah?

  Uh, and let's see what they have to say. Explorer, I hardly knew her, says, uh, I'm looking for, at the new Prelude. I'm not sure who this vehicle is for. Who wants a sporty GT economy coupe with a hybrid Atkinson powertrain linked up to a CVT? I'm hearing it's starting at 40K also. I don't see the market. What am I missing? Zach, do you have thoughts on the new Prelude?

• 58:43Speaker 01

  Um, no. I think it's like, it's a surprising move considering it's a coupe, and we're seeing coupes sold less and less. Um, the news is saying it's a big hit with mature men in Japan.

• 58:57Matt Farah?

  So it's the new Solara?

• 58:58Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 58:59Matt Farah?

  Is that what you're saying?

• 59:00Speaker 01

  I think that's what we're saying.

• 59:01Matt Farah?

  I, I have to say, it looks nice. You think it looks weird? No, it was nice.

• 59:04Speaker 01

  I think it looks like a mid-engine. The profile of it looks mid-engine, which it's not.

• 59:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 59:08Speaker 01

  So I think it's a little... I don't know.

• 59:11Matt Farah?

  That's fair. It does look.

• 59:13Speaker 01

  It's not the president's fault, like, look, pedestrian crash standards, so you have the super rounded hood we're used to. And then, actually, I bet if you put it next to a Mustang, it would actually have a pretty similar profile, maybe just a little shorter in the front. Yeah, I just, I don't think it's like amazing looking, but it's just, it's the times.

• 59:31Matt Farah?

  I also haven't seen one in person.

• 59:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:33Matt Farah?

  Really know.

• 59:35Speaker 01

  I don't know, CVT, hybrid powertrain coupe?

• 59:38Matt Farah?

  I mean, look, it's not for me.

• 59:40Speaker 01

  Right.

• 59:40Matt Farah?

  So, maybe they, maybe they, maybe they see a market that I don't know for that car.

• 59:45Speaker 01

  I hope.

• 59:46Matt Farah?

  There's fucking Soleras around, like, they, they sold those things, there's, there's a bunch of them around, so they're for somebody.

• 59:53Speaker 01

  Yep, true.

• 59:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Vatels to have. Uh. Bush did 997. What are some of your scariest moments in a car?

• 1:00:06Matt Farah?

  Scariest, I mean, the times I've crashed?

• 1:00:10Matt Farah?

  Like.

• 1:00:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, hearing, hearing, when you didn't mean to make that sound?

• 1:00:17Matt Farah?

  Sure. Uh, no, I was paired up with a, a, a Mexican, like, radio broadcaster for the Lexus RCF launch and the drive portion of it. And she was a frighteningly bad driver. Um, and, you know, there's only so much you can say, uh, when you're in the car, but suffice to say, uh, at the driver change, when it became my turn to drive, uh, I, I found it was very easy to just tell her what to put in her story about the car, so that she didn't have to drive anymore, and that was the end of it. So, the scariest part only lasted about 20 minutes, but she was, it was, she was a very, very bad driver.

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  Riding with people you don't trust and that are doing things wrong is a very concerning moment.

• 1:01:05Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that was the last time I kind of, I'm a little bit of a dick about it now. If I go on press launches and it's a shared thing, I will only go if I can approve the person I'm sharing a car with. And I assume not everybody does that, but like, sorry, like, been in too many scary situations with people, and I'm not naming names, but like. No.

• 1:01:27Speaker 01

  Well, there was that famous story, the journalist wrote the story about crashing McLaren in the passenger seat, like, you know, another journalist could cause you a big problem.

• 1:01:35Matt Farah?

  Mm-hmm. Rolex LT Lariat King Ranch. Besides a minivan, what very pedestrian car have either of you driven thinking, wow, this is way more fun than I imagined it would be? For me, it was a bone stock base manual Mazda 2. Yeah, those are actually alright. Mazda 2s are not bad.

• 1:01:55Speaker 01

  There was a spec series for a while with those. Honda Fit.

• 1:01:58Matt Farah?

  Honda Fits. Honda Fits are good.

• 1:02:00Speaker 01

  Really good.

• 1:02:04Matt Farah?

  Way more fun, I mean, I don't know about fun, but like the Lexus ES350 F Sport is pretty not terrible.

• 1:02:12Speaker 01

  That car is stuck in my terrible memory as a great thing to drive.

• 1:02:16Matt Farah?

  Those are, those are pretty decent, actually, yeah.

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  They drift well, too. They do.

• 1:02:25Matt Farah?

  I mean, like, basic ass, like Hondas from the 1990s, like Civics with double wishbones is like the Civic hatches and shit, like, them things rip.

• 1:02:37Matt Farah?

  I drove a Skyline, like a small, one of the ones that was like the 2-liter turbo, and that was pretty fun, that was a nice car to drive, like, if I was gonna go through the trouble of getting a Skyline, I'd wanna get that, but like, they exist, like, that's a nice little car, that was cool.

• 1:02:55Matt Farah?

  4K Libya, what is the, oh, the yellow dial watch I wear? Rolex Oyster Perpetual 41 Yellow. It's nice. I like it very much, too. It's black colors. Live Axel Rose says, lots of people have tried to remake Top Gear, but no one has tried to remake the radio show Car Talk, where callers call in about their automotive issues. Car Talk is what got me hooked on cars and thought it would be a good podcast format to reboot. Who would be your pick? Mine would be Freddie and Rich Benoit. Yeah, those are good choices.

• 1:03:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:03:31Matt Farah?

  I don't think either of those guys wanna fucking diagnose people's cars by phone. We're doing that. This is what this is. We just don't have to like actually do the phone bit. We can read the, we can read the comment here.

• 1:03:45Speaker 01

  I also wonder, I wonder if, if the number of questions, meaning like has gone down because so many cars are computer controlled in so many ways. Like a lot of the questions on Car Talk where I'm hearing this sound. Or now if it feels weird, if it drives weird, if there's a clunk, sure, you can still call about that. That's still a thing. But nowadays it's like plug in the computer and see what it says.

• 1:04:07Matt Farah?

  Scan it. Uli Kunkels Autobahn. Love it. Love it. I own a 2020 BMW M240 convertible that I would like to give to my college aged daughter. The wife says it's too dangerous and isn't having it. NTSB crash fatality data doesn't imply convertibles are more dangerous than coupes or sedans. In fact, they may be more safe. Who is right here and how do I win this one? Okay, so specifically,

• 1:04:35Matt Farah?

  your wife is saying it's too dangerous because it's a convertible, not because it's like a really fast BMW.

• 1:04:42Speaker 01

  Well, that's what we're assuming. The wife may have provided more information than he, that the editor here is not giving us.

• 1:04:47Matt Farah?

  Maybe, yes, but the, but the implication is, is coupes versus convertibles. I mean, you're talking about, uh, really rollover. And I'm pretty sure that BMW has pop up roll hoops in the event of a rollover. And it will have a very strong A pillar.

• 1:05:07Matt Farah?

  So I mean,

• 1:05:10Matt Farah?

  there might be some incrementally small risk of like decapitation if you drive like under a semi or something without, uh, like a Jane Mansfield situation without, does it not have rollover hoops?

• 1:05:23Speaker 01

  I'm looking, I'm looking.

• 1:05:26Matt Farah?

  But, uh, I, I.

• 1:05:29Matt Farah?

  I would, I don't think it's inherently more dangerous because it's a convertible. I wouldn't, if it, I don't have kids, but I would not put.

• 1:05:37Speaker 01

  It does have a rollover bar because there's a YouTube video called how to remove rollover bar.

• 1:05:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I wouldn't, if it was, there are certain convertibles, like I understand that you make you think that, but this one, this is a modern.

• 1:05:49Speaker 01

  Miata, older Miata's that didn't, they didn't have a pop-up bar. So if you were taller than that seat or if the seat gave way, like you're having a problem.

• 1:05:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah, uh, but I wouldn't worry about it in this, in this car in particular.

• 1:06:00Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:06:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:01Speaker 01

  I would wager that the crash fatality data might be because there's, I bet convertibles are owned by an older people.

• 1:06:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:09Speaker 01

  In general, and they probably get in less accidents.

• 1:06:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:14Matt Farah?

  I think it's probably fine. I think they're might more likely to get broken into if they're left outside.

• 1:06:19Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:06:19Matt Farah?

  That's one thing I would.

• 1:06:20Speaker 01

  And that's a really expensive repair.

• 1:06:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I'd be much more concerned about that than, than what would happen in a crash with a convertible.

• 1:06:29Matt Farah?

  That's big, beautiful engine bill. I love it, but also I hate it.

• 1:06:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:36Matt Farah?

  Only one of those is bullshit.

• 1:06:41Matt Farah?

  Oh, hey guys, what's up with this Instagram page called Angela's Death Highway? Uh, is it someone poking fun or someone who doesn't fit into a club lashing out? It just seems odd. I think it's satire.

• 1:06:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:54Matt Farah?

  It's like AI slop satire, but apparently I'm, did you see I was lampooned in the second one?

• 1:06:59Speaker 01

  I did see it.

• 1:07:00Matt Farah?

  Fortunately, it's just. That I have cats.

• 1:07:03Speaker 01

  It's you have cats.

• 1:07:03Matt Farah?

  I have cats, like.

• 1:07:05Speaker 01

  And the, and the person, the AI person didn't look at all like you.

• 1:07:08Matt Farah?

  No.

• 1:07:08Speaker 01

  I didn't know it was supposed to be you until it was like in front of a pink convertible Porsche, talking about cats.

• 1:07:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Uh, which like, okay, fine. I'm, I'm not upset that someone has put. And say he has cats, like, all right, fine, whatever. Okay. Uh, obviously it's someone poking fun. Maybe someone who truly doesn't like someone, although I thought even the one poking fun of Magnus was like. Fairly lighthearted and innocent.

• 1:07:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, I thought that was funny.

• 1:07:38Matt Farah?

  The first one I did, you sent me the first one, which I did think was actually like, pretty funny.

• 1:07:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's some clever writing in there.

• 1:07:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:46Speaker 01

  Um, the, the guy that runs it, I don't know who he is, I will say that. But he D N'd me and he said that he's gonna start asking permission to lampoon people. Instead of just doing it.

• 1:07:56Matt Farah?

  Okay, cool.

• 1:07:57Speaker 01

  Which is probably a smart idea.

• 1:07:57Matt Farah?

  So then it's probably someone who's genuinely just trying to be funny and not someone who's actually got a problem with something.

• 1:08:03Speaker 01

  Cause I think the way they, there's a video where they poke fun at, uh, the Angeles Crest crowd, the Newport crowd and the track crowd.

• 1:08:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:10Speaker 01

  It's like, alright, so they know SoCal car, car culture.

• 1:08:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:13Speaker 01

  They're making fun of all, they're not, this isn't a track person who's making fun of only Canyon people, like, they're, they're encompassing the whole world.

• 1:08:20Matt Farah?

  I, I thought it was pretty funny.

• 1:08:22Speaker 01

  That was pretty funny.

• 1:08:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I, I was, I mean, it, I was not offended by it.

• 1:08:26Speaker 01

  The Newport beach one was so funny, it was like, I can't believe Porsche sells cars to these people that buy them.

• 1:08:32Matt Farah?

  The one, what was the one line I used, I, oh my god, it was a couple of days ago when you sent it to me, with one of those lines, I was like, dying. Oh my god, it was great. Um, but I thought it was funny. Uh, I'm on the L I E to hell. That's fucking good. If you could burden your co-host with a seventies, eighties era neoclassical car as their daily for a year. Uh, in honor of the Stutz Duesenberg and Pembroke.

• 1:08:59Speaker 01

  Well, we wanna give, are we giving each other a bad car or a, like, a seventies, eighties car that we would like?

• 1:09:06Matt Farah?

  Well, so, neocla, you know what a neoclassical car is? Like an, like an Excalibur.

• 1:09:11Speaker 01

  Okay, right.

• 1:09:12Matt Farah?

  Like, I would want an Excalibur, I'd want you, I would want you to have an Excalibur.

• 1:09:16Speaker 01

  They're so funny.

• 1:09:16Matt Farah?

  They're the best, I mean, they're the best ones of those, right?

• 1:09:20Speaker 01

  I would give you the car that my neighbor had, he moved out now, but it was, uh, it was a coach builder in Santa Barbara in the seventies. And in, at the time, the cars were $200,000, it was called like a Cavalina or something. And it, but it has like a Ford 302 in it.

• 1:09:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:35Speaker 01

  It sounds good.

• 1:09:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:36Speaker 01

  It sounds like, like a Fox body, but it looks like an Excalibur.

• 1:09:39Matt Farah?

  There's a guy in my neighborhood that has a Accord, it looks like a thirties Accord, but it was built in the seventies, like, under license.

• 1:09:47Speaker 01

  Those are cool.

• 1:09:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it was kinda neat. Those like, have you seen the, um, There's a couple, there's a guy who's got a boat tail speedster replica in Malibu, the black silver one. Like, it's not, I like, I don't like replicas really, but like, I'd, if I was forced to roll something like that, I would roll that.

• 1:10:06Speaker 01

  What about, I give you a Legends car. That's neoclassical. Not street legal, in Florida.

• 1:10:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I tried to get a Legends car last minute for Performance Car of the Year. I think we're gonna have to do it there. Cause we wanted like a wild card.

• 1:10:19Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:10:20Matt Farah?

  Oh, well, yeah.

• 1:10:22Speaker 01

  Wild card, yeah.

• 1:10:23Matt Farah?

  Well, you should see what we found.

• 1:10:24Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 1:10:25Matt Farah?

  The wild card that we wanted kinda fell through.

• 1:10:27Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:10:28Matt Farah?

  So we got, do you know that Segway makes a stand-up scooter, like Razor scooter, style scooter, or Bird scooter, Sky scooter? Called the GT3, that has, uh, full suspension, big disc brakes, like mountain bike brakes. Uh, it's two-wheel, two-wheel drive.

• 1:10:47Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:10:47Matt Farah?

  And in eco mode, supposedly, supposedly, a grain of salt, goes a hundred kilometers on range. But in like, race mode, it will do fifty miles an hour.

• 1:10:59Speaker 01

  And it's a stand-up scooter?

• 1:11:01Matt Farah?

  Yes.

• 1:11:01Speaker 01

  That's wild. Have you seen the, um, like the Razor scooter racing things?

• 1:11:05Matt Farah?

  Yes.

• 1:11:06Speaker 01

  With like, full leathers and stuff?

• 1:11:08Matt Farah?

  Well, so, uh, Emmet, uh, Emmet White, who writes for Road and Track, got himself a set of like Alpine Stars MotoGP leathers. And fucking ran laps of Thunder Hill in this thing.

• 1:11:21Speaker 01

  Awesome. Did he ever fall?

• 1:11:23Matt Farah?

  He did not fall.

• 1:11:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, good.

• 1:11:24Matt Farah?

  Um, a, a few of us rode it. It's, it's, it's basically almost unridable in like, race mode. In sport mode, I would describe it as hairy. Um, but, then we were like, finishing up. And, uh, they're like, Segway, like, hey, how do we get this thing back to you? And they're like, eh, just hang on to it. Everyone else is flying home. I'm driving home.

• 1:11:52Speaker 01

  I've got it in the car.

• 1:11:54Matt Farah?

  It folds, it fit in the backseat of the RS3, and now, we have a Segway GT3.

• 1:12:00Speaker 01

  Awesome.

• 1:12:01Matt Farah?

  It is.

• 1:12:01Speaker 01

  Ayy.

• 1:12:02Matt Farah?

  It fucking rips. This thing is so, and, and, and I brought it, it was in the back of the car, so I brought it to Pebble Beach. You know, and I didn't wanna like, drive around for the weekend with it in the back, so I had the hotel like, put it with the, where the golf bags go. And then I woke up early the Monday morning. Uh, we were gonna leave, but Hannah had to do a work call from seven thirty to nine. And I had this, the scooter was there and I'm, and they're really cool at the hotel. I was like, I don't have anything to like do. I was like, hey, let me get the scooter out. And I got the scooter out and fucking threw it in sport mode. And I rode like six, seven miles of seventeen mile drive.

• 1:12:41Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 1:12:41Matt Farah?

  Went down to the lodge and like got coffee and like fucking did a bunch of the, you know, looped it around and I was like, oh, this thing is great. It was so fun.

• 1:12:51Speaker 01

  That's very cool.

• 1:12:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Oh, now we have that.

• 1:12:53Speaker 01

  A good time. Perfect. My car's out of commission.

• 1:12:55Matt Farah?

  So, and you will get to see, uh, you'll get to see the lap time, uh, how it compares to an actual nine eleven GT three. And a performance car of the year. Uh, racing bulls on parade. Currently driving cross country in my friend's Elise. OMG.

• 1:13:13Speaker 01

  It's just that.

• 1:13:15Matt Farah?

  Oh, wait, they just wanna, oh, we wanna sneak our way through Tucson, end up in Vegas before spending time in LA. Oh, wow. Well, this was from last week.

• 1:13:23Speaker 01

  Oh, they're done.

• 1:13:24Matt Farah?

  They're probably done. I hope you made it and I hope you have a good, uh, physical therapist and possibly neurosurgeon. I needed both after my, after I did that very drive. Isaiah Stanley, best, what are the best eighty to eighties to nineties drivers cars under a hundred thousand bucks? Uh, air cooled nine elevens, NSC, probably. Uh, Corvette ZR1.

• 1:13:50Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:13:50Matt Farah?

  Get a, uh, uh, like a ninety-five, ninety-six Corvette ZR1 for sure. Uh, you could get, you could probably get a Ferrari, uh, you could put fifteen thousand miles on a Ferrari three twenty-eight.

• 1:14:03Speaker 01

  Could you get a three forty-eight for that money?

• 1:14:05Matt Farah?

  You can, you get a three oh eight, three twenty-eight or three forty-eight for that money.

• 1:14:09Speaker 01

  That's a lot of cool car.

• 1:14:10Matt Farah?

  You could also probably get a, you could get a three sixty, um, F1. Probably with miles on it and put some more miles on it.

• 1:14:22Speaker 01

  It won't matter.

• 1:14:23Matt Farah?

  Cheap.

• 1:14:23Speaker 01

  You could get any E thirty pretty much, which would be pretty nice.

• 1:14:27Matt Farah?

  You could get a mid-years, um, NSX and put fifty, you know, you buy a hundred thousand mile NSX or a hundred and fifteen thousand miles and you drive for two years, sell it with one thirty.

• 1:14:37Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:14:37Matt Farah?

  That's the same, basically, for the market. You know, you keep it nice.

• 1:14:41Speaker 01

  Mark four Supra. Those just, those just take miles, no problem.

• 1:14:44Matt Farah?

  Yeah. They're not as engaging to me, but

• 1:14:47Speaker 01

  They're not.

• 1:14:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah. You could get an R30, a great, a pretty good R32 Skyline. That would be good. Yeah. Lots of options. Hundred K is a lot of money. You could get a, you could get a, uh, you can get, uh, well, it's too new, but I mean, you get a great 996 Turbo. That's like oh two. Um, you could get, um, I mean, you can get a great, uh, E46 M3. You get a great E39 M5.

• 1:15:16Speaker 01

  You could get an E.

• 1:15:17Matt Farah?

  An E30 M3.

• 1:15:20Speaker 01

  Or the, what was the, what was the E36 M5? The, um, no, not 36.

• 1:15:23Matt Farah?

  Oh, the E34.

• 1:15:24Speaker 01

  E34.

• 1:15:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:25Speaker 01

  Those are cool.

• 1:15:25Matt Farah?

  Those are fun. Yeah. There's a lot of options in that, that price range. Uh, Columbia presents the Coking Tire. All right. A lot of words in this one, Amy. You know what I mean?

• 1:15:37Speaker 01

  Real chatty.

• 1:15:38Matt Farah?

  Recommendation, recommendations for a luxury sedan to replace a Julia Quad. Uh, had it for a year, a little too hardcore for daily use. Um, looking at maybe, uh, Hot Rod E-Class models. Uh, looking for a luxury four door, physical buttons for climate and radio up to 60K.

• 1:16:01Matt Farah?

  Huh.

• 1:16:03Speaker 01

  I'll look at the interior of this E-Class.

• 1:16:04Matt Farah?

  All right. You're not going to like this. Genesis G70. Rear drive, twin turbo V6. Better interior than the Alpha.

• 1:16:15Speaker 01

  True.

• 1:16:15Matt Farah?

  Mostly real buttons.

• 1:16:17Speaker 01

  True.

• 1:16:17Matt Farah?

  Pretty fast. Doesn't sound bad. Those are all right.

• 1:16:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah, used, used E-classes. That's like the 2013, uh, to 15 or so.

• 1:16:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what they're talking about with the 212. So, I mean, that's a good choice. That's a fun, noisy choice. The Genesis is a really nice car. I drove one of those for a week.

• 1:16:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah. You get one of those new.

• 1:16:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:42Matt Farah?

  You know, for your budget. The one we drove was like 53 grand, brand new.

• 1:16:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, keep the warranty for sure.

• 1:16:47Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:47Speaker 01

  Um, that's a nice car.

• 1:16:50Matt Farah?

  You may not like this. Physical buttons for climate and radio.

• 1:16:58Matt Farah?

  60K, how about a, how about a lightly used CT4V Blackwing?

• 1:17:05Speaker 01

  Oh yeah.

• 1:17:06Matt Farah?

  If you could find one of those.

• 1:17:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz they still have the same piano across the middle.

• 1:17:10Matt Farah?

  Uh huh.

• 1:17:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a good car.

• 1:17:12Matt Farah?

  They have the buttons.

• 1:17:13Speaker 01

  I'd rather have that than the Gen- the Genesis is a nicer interior, like it looks more opulent.

• 1:17:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:18Speaker 01

  But um, I think there's fewer screens and haptic stuff in the Cadillac.

• 1:17:22Matt Farah?

  Yes, CT4 Blackwing would be, that would be alright. Hawk Twatara.

• 1:17:28Speaker 01

  So good.

• 1:17:29Matt Farah?

  That rules. Man, did that chick disappear quickly, huh?

• 1:17:33Speaker 01

  She's getting investigated by the SEC.

• 1:17:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean thou shalt not do a rug pull.

• 1:17:37Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:17:37Matt Farah?

  It seems, I thought, that's funny, Coffeezilla told me that there weren't laws, but maybe that's not entirely true.

• 1:17:43Speaker 01

  I think it did, uh, if you're very powerful, there are not laws.

• 1:17:46Matt Farah?

  Wow.

• 1:17:46Speaker 01

  If you're, if you're Hawk to a girl.

• 1:17:49Matt Farah?

  That's right. If you're the president, you can do that. Not if you're, I see. Uh, when pulling away from a stop in a manual transmission car, do you let off the clutch by rocking your foot back on your heel first, or just pulling your whole foot back with your leg?

• 1:18:08Speaker 01

  I always rock my foot back unless I'm driving a car where the ergonomics require full leg movement, like old trucks. You, usually like, your foot is aimed downward, or sorry, your leg is so vertical that you can't rock your foot, you just have to pull your leg back.

• 1:18:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, I, I, I pull my toes up and then my whole foot

• 1:18:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:27Matt Farah?

  follows.

• 1:18:28Speaker 01

  Like I, like I, I lean my foot back until I usually find the friction point.

• 1:18:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:32Speaker 01

  And then by that point, I also wanna move my leg for comfort.

• 1:18:35Matt Farah?

  It also depends if the friction point is low or high.

• 1:18:38Speaker 01

  True.

• 1:18:39Matt Farah?

  If it's low, then you can kinda do that. If it's high, you have no real choice but to lift your entire foot. I adapt to the vehicle, and it depends on the vehicle more than it depends on my personal desire. Uh, the Polestar's Polestar, I want a splash of color in my life.

• 1:19:00Matt Farah?

  To tide me over until I turn in my Chalk McCon and get a yellow Blackwing next year. Good for you with the fucking... See, the problem with that yellow is it's called cyber yellow. You can't tell anybody that, but it still does look cool. It was the color of the press car I drove. It was fun. Uh, I've been trying to hunt down the purple version of a Notice Sector. Oh, a watch, okay. What other... Uh, there wasn't a purple version of a Notice... Oh, a Sector GMT. Uh, what other brands have a decent purple dial? Uh...

• 1:19:34Matt Farah?

  I don't know, man. That's a...

• 1:19:36Speaker 01

  For that money, they should go to that same watch page we've talked about.

• 1:19:39Matt Farah?

  Oh, go to Endrology Lab and just have a custom?

• 1:19:42Speaker 01

  Well, you could totally do that. That's actually a great idea. I was gonna say, the LA watch show that happened, we've referred to it a bunch of times. This is right in that price point, and on that page, the splash page was all with all the brands.

• 1:19:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the Intersect LA page, yeah. I, I, I, my, I wanna help. I didn't, I should've read this to myself before reading it out loud. But, um, uh, I, I can't access that. What brands have a good purple? Like, I, I, as a colorblind guy, I can't, I can't access that part of my brain. Sorry. Steel beams melt jet fuel. Uh, okay. Does it make sense to keep watches on winders versus letting the power reserve run out? Um, I, uh, I am a big fan of letting the watch run out. The only reason I would keep a watch on a winder is if it had some real complicated movement, like a perpetual calendar or something, where if it stopped moving,

• 1:20:39Matt Farah?

  it would be a real pain in the ass to set it again. So those are the only watches I've ever kept on winders, was a perpetual. The other ones, they wind, they, they die. You pick them up when it's time to wear them, you set them, you wind them, and then you're good to go. So I let them die. Yeah.

• 1:21:03Matt Farah?

  Okay, sorry. Curtis Bowman says, what would be the race series or singular race? We would run if we were given a free entry and could pick the car you would drive as well. Could be hill climb, rally, endurance, whatever.

• 1:21:17Matt Farah?

  I'd wanna do either Millimilia, Targa Newfoundland, Targa Florio, or like Targa Tasmania. One of the, one of the, a faraway road rally with some closed sections.

• 1:21:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'd want, I think I would lean toward the Targas because I feel like the cars are more modern and faster. The Millimiglia now seems like a parade with a, some craziness mixed into it, but the cars are also very old.

• 1:21:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, if we're talking fantasy cars, then you and I are in a Ferrari 250 Tessa Rosso.

• 1:21:51Speaker 01

  Oh, sure.

• 1:21:51Matt Farah?

  Fucking ripping.

• 1:21:52Speaker 01

  Right. If the roads are closed, yeah, that'd be magical.

• 1:21:55Matt Farah?

  If it's like reality, like, like, yes, we get a free entry, but we have to like, have a car that's like attainable for like regular people. I mean, I think the answer is Safari 911.

• 1:22:07Speaker 01

  Safari 911 on one of the Targas?

• 1:22:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:09Speaker 01

  That'd be cool. Yeah. Those cars move around a little bit.

• 1:22:12Matt Farah?

  And or like, you know, if it, if it's, are those full tarmac or are there dirt sections?

• 1:22:18Speaker 01

  I don't know. I think it varies. I think Newfoundland is all tarmac. I think it's surface streets.

• 1:22:22Matt Farah?

  I'd wanna do a mixed surface.

• 1:22:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:24Matt Farah?

  It has, it has to be mixed surface.

• 1:22:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:27Matt Farah?

  And that rally that Zwark does.

• 1:22:29Speaker 01

  The Colorado hill climb thing.

• 1:22:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that seems.

• 1:22:32Speaker 01

  I really wanna do that. Yeah.

• 1:22:34Matt Farah?

  And the right car for that is a Mach-E.

• 1:22:38Speaker 01

  Uh, I, I want something louder. I mean, you'll win for sure. A Mach-E rally with a cage would be a great car. And actually Ford might be interested in making that happen.

• 1:22:48Matt Farah?

  A fan DM'd me like a couple of days ago and said that he was doing a local regional rally cross and someone showed up in a Mach-E rally and said destroyed everybody in the all-wheel drive stock class.

• 1:23:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:01Matt Farah?

  And was only beaten by like a couple like professional grade hill climb cars.

• 1:23:05Speaker 01

  I bet.

• 1:23:06Matt Farah?

  Presumably driven, driven by professional grade drivers.

• 1:23:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:09Matt Farah?

  You know, like this dude just showed up and just like murked people. It is Mach-E.

• 1:23:13Speaker 01

  That's awesome.

• 1:23:14Matt Farah?

  God, I hope it's leased, you know?

• 1:23:16Speaker 01

  That's great. That's what that car should be used for.

• 1:23:19Matt Farah?

  That is, I, I, I, I will die on the hill that that is the most underappreciated car in the market right now.

• 1:23:27Speaker 01

  Ford, if you're listening. Put a cage in a Mach-E rally and let's do the Colorado hill climb.

• 1:23:32Matt Farah?

  That would be so fun. How long is the course?

• 1:23:35Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:23:36Matt Farah?

  It's not, it's not too long.

• 1:23:45Speaker 01

  What's it called? It's not, is it Mount Evans Hill?

• 1:23:47Matt Farah?

  I don't know.

• 1:23:50Matt Farah?

  The only problem with the Mach-E rally that I could foresee is that when I did Performance EV of the Year two, two years ago,

• 1:23:59Matt Farah?

  I only got full power for like,

• 1:24:03Matt Farah?

  maybe three laps of the track.

• 1:24:08Matt Farah?

  So that could be an issue. We'd have to, we'd have to have him set it to like nuclear, just to make sure that you had full kill the whole time.

• 1:24:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:16Matt Farah?

  Or maybe Vaughn would let us use his like electric, like 1500 horsepower one.

• 1:24:21Speaker 01

  Alright, I can't find it, so.

• 1:24:23Matt Farah?

  Uh, Chevy D-List Celebrity Wagon. Thoughts on rebuying a car you've owned before? Ooh, that's a tough one. Have you ever redated a girl that you've dated before? Cause I have and it did not fucking go well. Remember Martha?

• 1:24:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:40Matt Farah?

  Yes.

• 1:24:40Speaker 01

  I have, I, I mean, well, I, we all have, yeah, and I didn't marry any of them, so I think that tells you how it goes.

• 1:24:45Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Um, if I sell a car, I'm, I'm mentally done with that car. I have, I now have enough space and resources where I could keep a car for indefinitely if I wanted to, so. Uh, people, every, every, well, let me just put it this way. Anytime someone who owns a car I've owned before wants to sell it, the very first thing they do is DM me.

• 1:25:07Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:25:08Matt Farah?

  So I know that my old Corvette has had like four different owners since me. The Mustang is on like, you know, owner, whatever. And they always, "Hey, you know, I'm looking to sell, you know, do you want?" No, I don't miss these things. Like, they can go. But would you?

• 1:25:25Speaker 01

  I think anytime I see an 06 STI, I go, "Oh," cause I have such fond memories.

• 1:25:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:30Speaker 01

  But I'm sure if I drove one around again for like a week, I'd go, "Oh, yeah, okay." I mean, I, I had the experience. I will never be able to replicate how much fun I had in that car, so.

• 1:25:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:40Matt Farah?

  Um, okay, uh.

• 1:25:45Matt Farah?

  Basically this. Donny's cellmate says, uh, thoughts on Soviet watches like Raketa? I feel like every watch collector has a phase where they discover Soviet watches. And Soviet watches are pretty funny. They're like, the design on them is like insane, the numbers are really nuts looking. They tick like fucking time bombs, cause like, of course they do. And they're cheap, you know, you can, you can get a pretty cool looking funky watch for like, you know, under, under two or three hundred dollars. And, uh, and some of them do look cool. I had one or two back in the day.

• 1:26:26Matt Farah?

  I, I buy them, I wear them once or twice, I get sick of them. They don't, they're not really waterproof. The movements are like, eh, okay. You know, i- i- it's so it's, I, I, you know, I don't know. It's one of those things where if you're in that phase of like, buying like, I wanna have twelve watches that are cheap, just so I can have like a big, you know, collection. Then it's a good thing to have and wear once in a while, but, uh, both of the ones I had, I ended up like, giving away to my nephew or something. Uh, I was not all that into them. Manual transmissionary position, that's fucking great. Uh, studio underdog watches, what are your thoughts? Uh, they're very cool.

• 1:27:10Matt Farah?

  I wish they made a forty millimeter, all their watches are like thirty seven, so they're too small for me, otherwise I would have bought one. They're really cool. They're really cool. The colors are rad, they're, the, the vibe is really fun. If they come out with a forty or forty one, I'm, I'm in, but not a thirty seven.

• 1:27:28Matt Farah?

  Okay. Uh, Stone Cold ET says, my sister in law, I think that's, or maybe son in law? S I L, just bought an electric Kona, other than EV rated winter tires, what else? Oh, should she, I guess that's sister in law, due to prepare for a northern British Columbia winter. She does not have indoor parking or charging at her apartment. Ooh, that sucks. Uh, P S, she hasn't had a car in winter in thirty years. So this could be tough, because.

• 1:28:03Matt Farah?

  Let's, I mean, if you have outdoor parking for an EV and no charging, you can't use any of the benefits of like preheating the battery and the cabin off the grid. You have to use the car to do that. So like when people talk about the EV range sucking in the winter, it's mainly if you cold start it, like, like your sister-in-law is gonna have to do. It'll be fully cold soaked to who fu- God knows what, thirty below overnight, and it's gonna take so much energy to get that thing warm. Your range is fucked. Like, whereas if you could plug it in overnight,

• 1:28:44Matt Farah?

  and you use the app and say, "I'm leaving at 8 a.m.", it'll precondition everything like, before you get in the car, using the home power, and your range will be much more like it would have been, uh, normally. Um, it'll still be a little lower, but not nearly like low like it is like. Your sister-in-law is, I hope she doesn't have to go very far.

• 1:29:04Speaker 01

  Basically, she should prepare to have a much reduced range.

• 1:29:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:08Speaker 01

  And, uh, does the car feel different when it's super cold, when you first start cold-starting it?

• 1:29:14Matt Farah?

  I mean, it won't like give you full power, but I'm guessing this person isn't just like flooring it out of her apartment every day, but...

• 1:29:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, so winter tires and just, uh, shorter trips?

• 1:29:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Um, yeah, I mean, if the, if the advertised range is three hundred, but you're cold-starting it like this, I bet you get one fifty. It's gonna use so much energy to get that battery out.

• 1:29:35Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:29:35Matt Farah?

  It just, yeah.

• 1:29:36Speaker 01

  That, that means she probably needs to be really diligent about charging before she goes home, because it might be two, three days in a row, depending on what your drive is each day, but if it's, tell her the first time she cold starts it on a really cold day to look at how much the range has changed from when she arrived home. And then you have to do that math. How many days you can do that before you have no battery?

• 1:29:57Matt Farah?

  Uh, Paul says, "If you could turn any SoCal road into a permanent hill climb, where you would pay and drive like the Nürburgring, which would you choose?" Uh, that's a fun one.

• 1:30:10Speaker 01

  Uh...

• 1:30:12Matt Farah?

  Spunky Canyon?

• 1:30:14Speaker 01

  Oh, that's a fun one. That's a, yeah. You got a lot of long straight stuff and then it gets real tight.

• 1:30:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I would do the, the whole length of Spunky Canyon Road where you have a really fast section. That then dives into a very technical section with good camber. That could be really fun.

• 1:30:31Speaker 01

  If you want it to be slightly safer, I think something like, uh, Big Tahunga, you know, a little more sweepy, a little bit, and the speeds aren't too high.

• 1:30:41Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 1:30:41Speaker 01

  That's a nice one, too.

• 1:30:44Matt Farah?

  How about Sand Canyon?

• 1:30:47Speaker 01

  I don't, it's okay. Up and over?

• 1:30:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:50Speaker 01

  Eh, I just, I don't think it's that great.

• 1:30:52Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 1:30:53Speaker 01

  Sandy.

• 1:30:55Matt Farah?

  Christian says, I'm 30 and have never had the opportunity to learn how to drive a stick. My dad has an 84 RX7. If I learned on that, would it translate to other modern cars? Yep.

• 1:31:06Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:31:06Matt Farah?

  Sure would. That's the best thing about stick. It's permanent.

• 1:31:10Speaker 01

  Yep. Neither of, we didn't learn on modern cars. We learned on old cars because that's what was around.

• 1:31:15Matt Farah?

  Two dope boys and a mountaineer. That's fucking great. I love that. It was more like six dope boys. We rolled six up, three rows. TVs everywhere. Uh, after your reviews, I leased a Mach E premium rear wheel drive and have been loving it. Um, since the EV credit is gone, what do you think the used EV market will do? Should I consider buying the lease out? Uh, I, well, you should have, I mean, even if it's a two-year lease, I think you have a couple of months to figure that out. Like, um, I mean, I think the, the used EV market will be bolstered slightly.

• 1:31:57Matt Farah?

  You know, it'll go up. If the price of new ones go up, the price of used ones will at least, maybe if not go up, they will, the depreciation will slow. Um, as someone who owns a used luxury EV, I'm in, I'm in that boat too.

• 1:32:13Speaker 01

  Now, is the, is their price locked, is their buyout price locked in before the EV credits went away? Well, that's kind of good.

• 1:32:20Matt Farah?

  The buyout price is locked in from the day you sign the lease.

• 1:32:23Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:32:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:24Speaker 01

  So they might have.

• 1:32:24Matt Farah?

  So you know, you know how much you're gonna have to pay and you can wait until fuck that day. I mean, you don't, you don't, this is, uh, other than ensuring, you know, you have another car. When if you, if you, you gotta be ready to turn it in or ready to buy it out and ready to make a move based on either. Um, but you don't need a whole ton of foresight.

• 1:32:44Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:32:44Matt Farah?

  To, to do that.

• 1:32:45Speaker 01

  So they could watch what's happening with the used market, which is great. And then you might find yourself in a position where your buyout price is, you know, lower than the market rate, which would be incredible. It's like when people were lease, uh, buying, um, Saab, the Saab nine two X back in the day and selling it for more.

• 1:33:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I, uh, my guess is if you're, if, if your miles are like any other car, if your miles are way under, it may make sense to, to buy the lease. If your miles are close to the allocated miles or over, then it's probably not worth it. That's just my like napkin math. There's, I'm, there's a lot of nuance there, but you don't have to know that now. You can, you could figure that out with a few days notice and, and be ready to go. Uh, Chase Car says, what's the better daily weekend combo from GM and Porsche? Okay, wait, wait. Oh, okay, wait. So a Blackwing daily and a nine 11 or Cayman as a weekend car versus a Macan or Panamera daily

• 1:33:48Matt Farah?

  and a Corvette weekend car, 150K for both cars.

• 1:33:54Speaker 01

  Living here, I would go Macan daily Corvette weekend car.

• 1:34:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:01Speaker 01

  That's what I would do. I, I. CTSV is awesome, but like as a daily noise, fuel consumption, stiff, low.

• 1:34:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:08Speaker 01

  Around here, it would just be stupid.

• 1:34:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah, McCon, McCon daily and Corvette weekend car would probably be alright. It would have to be a good Corvette.

• 1:34:20Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:34:20Matt Farah?

  But that's what I would, that's where I'd be. Yeah.

• 1:34:23Speaker 01

  What are used ZO6s going for?

• 1:34:25Matt Farah?

  I mean, that's, it would have, it would have to be a C8 ZO6. I'm not, I'm not buying a regular one, but it would have to be. I'll tell you what, you know, the best thing about the ZR1 is that it's a Corvette. I mean, it's, you know, it's not precious. It will never be precious. And like, that's great. Because it means, A, they'll, they'll, however many the market wants to buy, they'll build 20 more than that. Right? And so they're going to depreciate, maybe not forever, maybe not as fast, but like, man, when the ZR1 gets to 100K.

• 1:34:58Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 1:34:59Matt Farah?

  Let me tell you something, you better be ready with 100K. Because they're worth the money new. But if you're an enthusiast and you're going, I'm never going to afford a McLaren or a Pista or any of that kind of shit. Figure out how to save 100 over three or four years and the ZR1 will come to you.

• 1:35:25Speaker 01

  Oh, sorry, I'll do that.

• 1:35:27Matt Farah?

  Oh, Stewdog has a customer Patreon issue, but Zach says noted. Okay. Okay, wait. Thoughts, 2007 LL Bean Outback. Thoughts on the M2CS, the old one? Compared to other sports cars in 70 to 90K seems to have held up. It's held up as an investment perspective. They're rad. Those, those last M2s were a good time. They came in manual too, didn't they? You get them both transmissions.

• 1:35:57Speaker 01

  Suspension on them was incredible.

• 1:35:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they were fun. I probably could get used to it over time. Like, it's not the kind of thing that would like, keep me excited constantly. Like, I, I bet, it was, I remember it was great for like a week, but like, if I had it for a year, I'd kind of be like, okay, you know, this is the thing. So I don't see it as like a forever car, but like the M1 and these M2CSs, you can put a few thousand miles on them for what seems like free. You know, which is pretty cool.

• 1:36:29Matt Farah?

  Oh, is that good compared to the GT350 Cayman, GTS and Camaro SSZL1? Well.

• 1:36:38Matt Farah?

  Is that, I mean, the Mustangs and Camaros are bigger. That's the biggest thing. They're both faster and they're both bigger. So like that, the M2 is small. The Cayman GTS is very small and mid-engine, so like, the M2's virtue is that it's very, very fast and very, very small.

• 1:36:57Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:36:58Matt Farah?

  Not very, but.

• 1:36:58Speaker 01

  It's also like luxurious inside.

• 1:37:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:01Speaker 01

  It's very comfortable. It's got all the modern stuff.

• 1:37:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:03Speaker 01

  Like it definitely feels like an upscale car compared to the GT350 or the Camaro.

• 1:37:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. And if you're not putting people in the backseat all the time, then it actually does have a lot of room for the front seat. They're like, they're very good.

• 1:37:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:16Matt Farah?

  Um, yeah, I like them. One more and then I have to stop the show to pee. Matt's matzo ball soup, that's Carl's matzo ball soup. I have no matzo ball soup of my own. I'm very fortunate to make Carl's. I should make it soon. It's been a long time. Getting more into track driving, should I upgrade my 87, F87 M2? Or get something like a BRZ, uh, for the track? I mean,

• 1:37:45Matt Farah?

  comes down to money and space. I mean, if you, you know, if you, wait, like,

• 1:37:55Matt Farah?

  I don't understand, like, is this a second car? Get a BRZ second car is what we're thinking here, this means?

• 1:38:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think it's, should I upgrade my M2? Or should I get a BRZ? I think as a dedicated track.

• 1:38:10Matt Farah?

  As a dedicated track car? Why haven't we, haven't we learned about, is there a fix for that oil baffle thing?

• 1:38:16Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:38:17Matt Farah?

  I will first figure out if that is. I, I probably wouldn't get a BRZ if you have an M2 as a street car. I think it would probably feel slow. I'd probably get like a 2014 Mustang GT with a Maximum Motorsports kit. And run actual good times.

• 1:38:32Speaker 01

  That is the,

• 1:38:33Matt Farah?

  And your car would feel really fast.

• 1:38:34Speaker 01

  Best performance bargain, reliability bargain out there. Yeah.

• 1:38:37Matt Farah?

  Um, that, that would actually be. You know.

• 1:38:41Speaker 01

  Or you could get an E36 track car with like the regular S52 or some or just like the M50 in it. Cause then it'll again, it will have more horsepower or feel faster than the BRZ. The BRZ engine just, I don't know, the balance of those cars is so fun. There was one at Lemons, lasted the whole time. Bunch of people in the paddock were saying that's probably going to be the new Lemons Miata. Cause Miata's just aren't cheap enough really anymore. They've gone up, so.

• 1:39:05Matt Farah?

  Uh, one, this last one is real quick and then we're going to end here. Trogador the Burninator. Should I have any concerns taking my Notice Canyon through airport security? Do x-rays, et cetera, have any negative impact on mechanical watches? Uh, no, you should have no, no issue at all taking any mechanical watch through an x-ray machine. I will, I refuse to take my watches off at airport security in any country. Rob Ferretti's Panerai was stolen at airport security. Uh, that doesn't necessarily mean all airport security is inherently unsafe. And I don't know, like fear monger, but like they're, they're, they don't ask you to. People just automatically take their watches off, but like you, I've, I've fly so much. No watch has ever set off airport fucking security for me.

• 1:39:47Matt Farah?

  And, and if they absolutely insist you take it off, bury that shit inside your bag. Like, don't just like put it in a tray, um, and send it through like, yeah, no, um, but keep it on, keep it on. Uh, that's our show, folks. Thank you for, uh, your patience, uh, as I traveled and we had to do a remote show, get ahead, all those things. Back in the studio now for a little bit. And, uh, yeah, road and track experiences. If you want to come drive with me in November, Willow Springs this weekend, Saturday, all day. It's going to be great fun. Come out and see the show, say hi. And, um, thank you to our patrons for such great questions. We will see you guys on Thursday. Bye.