KHC 159 - Sh*t Talkers Weekly 15

Join us for a new Sh*t Talkers Weekly podcast episode! This week Cam and James cover today’s lonely epidemic among men, controversy in politics, Cam’s new Hoyt Bow, and more! Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Timestamps: 00:00:00 The Male Loneliness Epidemic 00:10:02 Clayton Johnson from Stranger Things & the Deputy from DREAM 00:11:16 Q: Biggest Animal Cam Could Take on in a Fight 00:12:18 Los Angeles: Travis Barker’s Birthday and Alexi Pappas 00:20:28 Barnes & Noble - Undeniable 00:21:44 The New Hoyt Bow - RX-10 00:29:04 Hoyt Bow Setup & Accessories 00:35:11 Cam’s Thoughts on the Epstein Files 00:37:44 The Military & Corruption of the Government 00:44:48 WhistlinDiesel Tax Evasion Allegations 00:47:58 Chito Vera Getting Jumped & Bo Nickla’s Fight 00:50:36 Final Thoughts Thank you to our sponsors: Grizzly Coolers: https://www.grizzlycoolers.com/ use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off Montana Knife Company: https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ Use code CAM for 10% off Sig Sauer: https://www.sigsauer.com/ use code CAM10 for 10% off optics LMNT: Visit https://drinklmnt.com/cam for a free sample pack with any purchase Hoyt: http://bit.ly/3Zdamyv use code CAM for 10% off Black Rifle Coffee: https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% your first order

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• 0:00Cameron Hanes?

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• 0:45Cameron Hanes?

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• 1:30Cameron Hanes?

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• 2:03Cameron Hanes?

  Shit Talkers Weekly, Kramrin, Gideon, and Kramrin Haynes, Shit Talkers Weekly 15.

• 2:11Speaker 01

  Keep Kramrin Collective.

• 2:14Cameron Hanes?

  I don't, I'm tired. So sometimes when I'm tired, I either am retarded or actually am better. So it's like a kind of a wild card.

• 2:25Speaker 01

  Well, it seems like the more retarded we are, the better for these.

• 2:27Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, then hopefully it's, yes, the former and latter.

• 2:31Speaker 01

  Which, speaking of which, I got recognized again.

• 2:34Cameron Hanes?

  Where?

• 2:34Speaker 01

  In the gym.

• 2:35Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, nice.

• 2:36Speaker 01

  By, uh, Nick and.

• 2:39Cameron Hanes?

  Nick the trainer dude?

• 2:40Speaker 01

  No, I have seen him in there a couple of times, but do you know who, uh, Brent Primus is?

• 2:45Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 2:46Speaker 01

  He's, yeah, he's from here. He just said that I should look him up, but I looked him up and saw that he was a Bellator champion.

• 2:53Cameron Hanes?

  He beat Chandler.

• 2:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:54Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 2:55Speaker 01

  So he must be decent, but.

• 2:57Cameron Hanes?

  It was, it was before calf kicks were really a thing. He landed some hard calf kicks and they thought it looked like Chandler's ankle was broke. His foot was just flopping around, not even working, but the nerve was just dead from those hard calf kicks. Cause he's, yeah, he's a stud.

• 3:14Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, the Nick guy looked like one too, and he had cauliflower ears. So.

• 3:18Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So whatever they say, you're just like, yeah, of course. Yes, I agree.

• 3:22Speaker 01

  I won't pick a fight with you.

• 3:24Cameron Hanes?

  I know. I always gotta look at the ears, but yeah, no, he, he was champion for sure.

• 3:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. The, uh, the other guy I gotta shout out is, uh, Steve, I think you say Saval, maybe it's Savali, but he and I have followed each other for a little bit. He's a really talented graphic artist and, uh, out of nowhere, he did the 200 mile race across Florida.

• 3:43Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, really?

• 3:44Speaker 01

  Finished it.

• 3:44Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, man.

• 3:45Speaker 01

  Damn, this guy's a badass.

• 3:46Cameron Hanes?

  Is he from here?

• 3:47Speaker 01

  No, no, he just, you know.

• 3:49Cameron Hanes?

  You follow each other.

• 3:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, found me from, from you and then, uh, but yeah, I was like, that's crazy.

• 3:53Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 3:54Speaker 01

  I saw Goggins was in that one too, and.

• 3:55Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I don't know what happened.

• 3:57Speaker 01

  I saw a bunch of stuff that was like, he had a injured hamstring or whatever, but that's probably just people talking. So.

• 4:05Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, three two hundreds in the same year, dude, at 50, that's, that's legit.

• 4:11Speaker 01

  Is that easy?

• 4:11Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, so he, he did great at two of them. And yeah, it's kind of a, you roll the dice on these things.

• 4:17Speaker 01

  Definitely.

• 4:19Speaker 01

  Um, we do have some controversy to cover.

• 4:22Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, God.

• 4:22Speaker 01

  We seem to be, there's some polar responses to the reel you posted about Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carl's.

• 4:31Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, the young guys, boy, they're really triggered.

• 4:33Speaker 01

  Okay, yeah, I saw some comments and I feel like I can comment on this because I'm a young guy that were like, you don't, you know, all due respect, but you don't know.

• 4:40Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 4:41Speaker 01

  Okay, well, I do know.

• 4:42Cameron Hanes?

  Well, no, see, I'm an old head. I'm tired of these old heads saying, yeah, or whatever. So I'm like, well, I don't know. I got two kids, probably your same age that are married. And you, you got supposedly have a girlfriend.

• 4:55Speaker 01

  Well, significant other.

• 4:57Cameron Hanes?

  She's inflatable, but it's a girl.

• 5:00Speaker 01

  She's really good to me.

• 5:03Speaker 01

  Does whatever I want.

• 5:05Cameron Hanes?

  So, I mean, it works, but yeah, I know. He's, these young guys are, they're victims. I didn't know guys were victims now of a sudden.

• 5:12Speaker 01

  That's, I don't know. It's like, these young guys are like, oh, these girls have high body counts and are girl bosses. That's what one guy said. And I'm like, okay, true. But also, I, being in the gym locker room, hearing how some of these guys talk is like, in the shit that they're into, I'm like, well, no wonder women hate you.

• 5:30Cameron Hanes?

  Well, and those guys actually are motivated. They're in the gym.

• 5:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:33Cameron Hanes?

  So imagine the guys on Pornhub all day, you know, in who knows, doing what, scrolling Instagram.

• 5:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:41Cameron Hanes?

  It's like, what do you, how, why would a girl want to be with you? Are you, are you taking any accountability? Where are you trying to meet girls? So yeah, the gym would be good. How about church?

• 5:51Speaker 01

  That.

• 5:52Cameron Hanes?

  Anybody going, I mean, what are we doing? Or are you just a victim?

• 5:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:56Cameron Hanes?

  And like, all the girls are, I don't even know what, I can't, I don't even know what they say. But how are, how attractive are you making yourself?

• 6:04Speaker 01

  Well, this is kind of feeds into the whole male loneliness epidemic and like, oh, girls hate me. And it's like.

• 6:10Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 6:11Speaker 01

  Do like, why are you so, I don't know. I get like, why are you so focused on girls? How old are you? I thought we went through that.

• 6:18Cameron Hanes?

  I, I mean, okay, I will say, being lonely would probably suck. I've, I don't know that I've ever, I've always had.

• 6:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:31Cameron Hanes?

  I think a girlfriend or a wife or something. So I don't.

• 6:34Speaker 01

  Player.

• 6:35Cameron Hanes?

  No, I mean, no, no, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying like. You know, in a small town, there's not like a lot of choices.

• 6:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:45Cameron Hanes?

  It's like, yeah, that can be tough. So, you know, where the men are men and sheep run scared.

• 6:52Speaker 01

  I mean, Eugene's not thick with them. I'll say that much. No, it's my type, but.

• 6:59Cameron Hanes?

  There's some thick ones, but there's not a bunch of thick ones.

• 7:02Speaker 01

  And they have really fun colored hair.

• 7:07Cameron Hanes?

  I know. So, I mean, you got the, the purple haired liberals and then you got the, the porn addicted guys.

• 7:16Speaker 01

  It's like,

• 7:18Cameron Hanes?

  that's gonna be tough. I mean,

• 7:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:22Cameron Hanes?

  So, but here's what I say. I don't play into the victim shit.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  No.

• 7:27Cameron Hanes?

  It's like, what are you doing to better yourself? Why would, why would a girl want to be with you?

• 7:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:32Cameron Hanes?

  Are you working hard to get a good job? Are you taking care of yourself? Are you reading? Do you ever? Has anybody ever read a book? Are you trying to be like, how, why would somebody want to be with you?

• 7:44Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, I have a certain friend and I'm not going to name him. You know who you are because I've said this to you. But he's like, ah, you know, I want this and a girl, this and a wife. I want her to do this. And I'm like, the problem is that woman you're talking about is not going to put up with your shit. This shit that you're doing, you're always on hinge and you're always going on the next date. She's going to clock that from the get go.

• 8:05Cameron Hanes?

  And also it's like, it seems like, okay, so we hear about all the girls, all their problems, the Nick Fuentes, whatever. But all the girls sake, all the guys are acting like Andrew Tate. I mean, so it's, I think social media is a problem and I think both sides need to just kind of chill out and just be like, but if they're not going to, go to someplace where you might meet a cool girl. Go to a, maybe a track meet. Go to, yeah, like I said, church.

• 8:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:37Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, we used to go to the mall. I don't know if that's still a thing.

• 8:39Speaker 01

  I mean, the gym. Yeah, I understand. Maybe people don't want to be approached, but also don't be a dumbass. Pick up on the hints. If she hasn't looked at you, maybe don't approach her.

• 8:50Cameron Hanes?

  I don't. Or don't have a boner when you go up and talk to her.

• 9:00Speaker 01

  Is that a cum stain?

• 9:04Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, there's some like, there's some big ticket things you could probably take care of that might help. I don't know. I mean, I've been, I'm old. I am the old head. I don't know. But like I said, I got, I got kids. That have figured it out.

• 9:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, well, I, I don't know. Maybe, maybe I don't understand, but.

• 9:26Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I know. I know. There's like, there's a lot of pro Nick guys out there.

• 9:31Speaker 01

  There are. Yeah. And I know it doesn't help. You know, I'm sitting in my glass house. I'm jacked. Strikingly good looking, funny.

• 9:38Cameron Hanes?

  Rich.

• 9:38Speaker 01

  Rich, smart.

• 9:42Speaker 01

  So, you know.

• 9:43Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, you should. You know what? You should start a podcast giving advice.

• 9:46Speaker 01

  I actually think what I'm gonna do is sell a course.

• 9:49Cameron Hanes?

  You should, because I see a lot of like, guys your age that really haven't accomplished anything, but you have. But, but they're really quick to give advice, like life advice to other adult men. It's like, well, hmm.

• 10:05Cameron Hanes?

  I, I don't give advice.

• 10:07Speaker 01

  One thing I have taken away from that is that you should always do your taxes before going outside.

• 10:18Cameron Hanes?

  I was gonna go hunting, but I had to do my 10, 10, 14, like, can file my 1040 here. I don't even know what it's called. I don't even, I haven't done taxes in years. I pay somebody, so.

• 10:32Cameron Hanes?

  How, why have I been hunting?

• 10:34Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, you've got it all wrong.

• 10:37Cameron Hanes?

  I know. I've been escaping my responsibilities.

• 10:39Speaker 01

  Let's focus on the important things here.

• 10:43Cameron Hanes?

  Giving advice. How about, why don't you, do you have a girl? Do you have a family? What, what are you doing?

• 10:52Cameron Hanes?

  I might listen to you once you accomplish something besides talking to a microphone.

• 10:56Speaker 01

  Uh, between Pornhub and taxes, not doing much. Those are just the two windows open on this browser.

• 11:04Cameron Hanes?

  Pornhub, taxes and podcasts.

• 11:11Cameron Hanes?

  Oh my God. Yeah, I gotta get off this midget porn.

• 11:18Cameron Hanes?

  So I could knock out this new episode.

• 11:20Speaker 01

  One more crank.

• 11:22Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, just to, just to, just to get my head straight.

• 11:30Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 11:31Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, man.

• 11:33Speaker 01

  Okay, well, we can move on from that.

• 11:36Cameron Hanes?

  Is that a, okay.

• 11:40Cameron Hanes?

  That was a test, you sick fucker.

• 11:44Speaker 01

  So I've heard.

• 11:48Cameron Hanes?

  If not, there should be.

• 11:50Speaker 01

  The, uh, the other shout out, I was watching Stranger Things, I talked about this, but season four, I'm watching it and I'm like, man, that guy looks really familiar. Saw him more, I mean, he's like, he's a supporting role, but he's in it a lot. And I'm like, who is that? It's Clayton Johnson.

• 12:03Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 12:04Speaker 01

  I forgot. Yeah.

• 12:05Cameron Hanes?

  I know, we had it sixteen and then whatever.

• 12:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:09Cameron Hanes?

  Now he's gone.

• 12:10Speaker 01

  But I texted him and I was like, dude, I sent him a, uh, I was like mid watching it. I was like, dude, you're in Stranger Things, I forgot. And then he said, yeah, get ready for season five.

• 12:19Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, nice.

• 12:19Speaker 01

  So I guess he's in that too, but.

• 12:21Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, no, that was, yeah, that was fun. I mean, that was part of my acting gig. He was a deputy for a while and I think I had to chew his ass in the hallway that one time.

• 12:29Speaker 01

  I did what?

• 12:30Cameron Hanes?

  I know. That's my, my greatest skill.

• 12:37Cameron Hanes?

  I've been working on it for, in a long time.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  Put that on your resume.

• 12:45Cameron Hanes?

  Not ass eater, chewer.

• 12:51Cameron Hanes?

  God.

• 12:51Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 12:52Cameron Hanes?

  This, this is, yeah. I mean, the last one, it was five seconds, we went off the rails. This one, we haven't been on the rails yet.

• 13:01Speaker 01

  Well, this next question will get you.

• 13:02Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 13:03Speaker 01

  What do you think the biggest animal is that you could take in a fight? And I mean, like, not surviving, you gotta, I think you have to kill it with your bare hands.

• 13:16Cameron Hanes?

  Biggest animal to kill bare hands. I don't know. Those animals are tough.

• 13:21Speaker 01

  I know.

• 13:22Cameron Hanes?

  They're scrappy. They're scrappy. Cause even like a squ- when you see a squirrel and it like runs, you know, kind of sometimes it'll run at you to get to a tree or it kind of gets caught off guard and you're like,

• 13:35Speaker 01

  That's what I was thinking. And this animal's also trying to kill you. So it's not like, you can't pick something cute and cuddly.

• 13:41Cameron Hanes?

  No. Um, man, biggest animal to kill. I don't know. Uh, I don't know.

• 13:48Speaker 01

  I know. I know.

• 13:49Cameron Hanes?

  I don't want to kill a bear and animal with my bare hands.

• 13:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. But if you had to, you know, I was thinking maybe birds is a good way to go. Fragile bones.

• 13:56Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, yeah.

• 13:57Speaker 01

  Long neck.

• 13:58Cameron Hanes?

  Right. There you go.

• 13:59Speaker 01

  So pigeon.

• 14:00Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. I could, I could kill a pigeon.

• 14:03Speaker 01

  There we go.

• 14:04Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 14:05Speaker 01

  We do got to cover. You just got back from a trip to LA.

• 14:10Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, man. I know. Yeah.

• 14:12Speaker 01

  And it looked busy.

• 14:16Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I never. Yeah, that was, I'm not going to say it because I hate when people say, was it on my 2025 bingo?

• 14:27Cameron Hanes?

  So I'm not going to say that. What I'm going to say, it wasn't on my lifetime bingo card to go to a, a party like that. It was Travis Barker's 50th birthday. And, um, yeah, it was insane.

• 14:44Speaker 01

  Nobody there that we would know.

• 14:46Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, who would you know that was there? Yeah. I mean, Cheeto. Cheeto was there.

• 14:53Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 14:53Cameron Hanes?

  And I think that's probably about it.

• 14:55Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 14:58Cameron Hanes?

  No, I think.

• 15:00Speaker 01

  Just family and friends.

• 15:02Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it was. And definitely was, but you know. I did say, even on the mic, because it passed around the mic, and I did say, I'm probably the least likely person to be at a party like this in LA. And all, all the Kardashian sisters were there. Kendall was, you know, slinking around like a model, how models walk, look just like you'd expect. Kim, everybody, the mom, everyone was there. I mean, everybody I talked to was super nice and they'd be like, so you're the hunter? I'm like, yeah. So that was my like, whatever.

• 15:42Speaker 01

  Was that on your name tag?

• 15:43Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, basically. And so to, to go to a party like that, Travis knew I was down there because I went down to do Alexi's podcast, the Mentor Buffet. And that was, that was fun. She's got like an Alice in Wonderland theme to it, like a lot different than, than this one. About the exact opposite, but it was fun. You know, she's smart. She had her producer there too. And it was where Rich Roll does his podcast. And it's like a, it's like a headquarters.

• 16:16Speaker 01

  Really?

• 16:17Cameron Hanes?

  I was like, who the hell are his sponsors? Because I can't, I don't even know how much that would cost. It was crazy. So she has one, Rain Wilson has one in that, in his, it's part of his network. And then Rich Roll.

• 16:30Speaker 01

  I didn't know Rain Wilson was in that.

• 16:31Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 16:32Speaker 01

  That's cool.

• 16:32Cameron Hanes?

  He's there too.

• 16:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, Dwight.

• 16:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I know. He's actually, I mean, obviously, yeah, he's, I think he just has a book that came out and he's super smart, has great discussions. Of course, Alexi does a great job. And then Rich, it's just like, about, like, if you had put on the scale of intelligence, this podcast would be, it would be on the opposite end of where that, that, that litany of podcasts would be. But, uh, yeah, so it was cool. So anyway, I was there and, you know, I told Travis I was coming down for that. And I said, Hey, we should go on a run. And so we went on a run, but he's like, Oh, if you're gonna be here, do you want to, my wife is, you know, Courtney's having a party for me. And I'm like,

• 17:20Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I mean, what else am I ever gonna be? This is insane. So how it turned out, yeah, it was great. Everybody's nice. Um, you know, people were just saying that, uh, Travis, you know, me being a hunter, killing animals, him being a vegan, I think pretty much all of them were vegans. There are some guys that my area of the table, we were talking about hunting a lot, and they had been getting into hunting, and that was fun. A guy named Nick, Travis's trainer was there, so I talked to him a lot. He's just a beast, Don. And, uh, but everybody was saying that, you know, if anybody said to Travis something like, oh, why do you, why do you hang out with, you know, that bow hunter guy? He kills animals. And he's like, I don't,

• 18:04Cameron Hanes?

  and they said, this is what he said, I don't care what he does, he's my friend. And, uh, yeah, so he's just, you know, so super nice, super supportive. And how it worked out is we ended up, I went to the party, it was, it was crazy. Um, just not like any birthday party I've ever been to. Uh, catered, super nice band, everything you'd expect. And, um, then, um, the next morning, we did a good run with Alexi that morning, I think six miles down the hill and back up. Uh, then the next morning, me and Travis are gonna work out again, and Donna's trainer's gonna run us through a workout. So I went back up. And it seemed like every morning I was in LA,

• 18:44Cameron Hanes?

  I was in their kitchen when Courtney got up with the baby. And I was like, finally, the last morning, I said, listen, I said, I know I'm here in the kitchen again, this was the last time I'm gonna be here, I promise, I'm sorry. Because you know, when you get up in the morning, you don't want, who the is this guy in this kitchen again? Why is this guy always at my house? So I was just there all the time. But, uh, she's super, I, I mean, super nice. I mean, the most generous people. And people have all these, I preconceived notions about the Kardashians. I don't really know any of the other ones, but I know Courtney, and I know, and you know, her husband, obviously Travis, and they couldn't be any nicer. But we did that workout, and it kicked my ass. Dude, it was hard.

• 19:28Speaker 01

  What was, like, what was the circuit?

• 19:31Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I mean, it was like to music. So it's fast. He likes doing it to like a beat. And I'm like, I'm, I mean, I like music, but and I like lifting. I don't really marry the two. So I was like, like the trainer's like quicker, quicker, quicker, like boom, boom, boom. So you're doing like curls, 10, he'd move the pin down 10 to the beat, down 10, then back up. So 50. And then pushups, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 50. And then you do two sets of those and you go and get on the treadmill and run a half mile. Then two more exercises like that, like pull ups, uh, dip muscle up kind of things where kind of bounce off the Bosa ball to give you a little, cause you get kind of tired.

• 20:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:15Cameron Hanes?

  After doing 50 of those. So you get the Bosa ball to give you a little boost, but you're going to, I mean, I could always do it, but it without the ball, I couldn't have, or without the, the Bosa ball. And then, so we did like five second or five sets of a hundred, so 500 reps. And in between each set, so four times we did a half mile, so two miles running. And after afterwards, I mean, I was dripping sweat and laying on that floor and Travis was doing better than me.

• 20:46Speaker 01

  That's hard.

• 20:47Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, he, he's in shape and I thought, oh, he's a vegan. He's like, I don't know. I thought lifting, I'd be fine. He's fit, dude.

• 20:59Speaker 01

  People that don't do those like circuit workouts, I mean, just lifting is one thing, but doing it in a circuit when your heart rate's up is hard.

• 21:06Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was, it was, it was 50 times harder than I thought it was going to be. I thought it was going to be like kind of fun and I could be like, oh, I'm, you know, I'm fairly for my size, fairly strong lifting.

• 21:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:22Cameron Hanes?

  But. Didn't see it there.

• 21:25Speaker 01

  I was thinking about everybody at the party and I'm like, you know, the whole celebrity thing is it's cool, but it doesn't do much for me, except was Timothy Chalamet there?

• 21:32Cameron Hanes?

  No, I mean, no, there's only, there's probably 50 people there and he's, is he Kendall's? Yeah, boyfriend.

• 21:41Speaker 01

  He's like one of my favorite actors.

• 21:42Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I don't, I didn't see him. She was at a shoot and she ended up, Courtney didn't know she was going to make it up there, but she did. And yeah, so all of her sisters were there.

• 21:52Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 21:53Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 21:53Speaker 01

  I also saw you did some rabbit hunting.

• 21:55Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I know. I was trying to get that rabbit. Yeah. No, that was, I'm somehow I'm always hunting. Like even when on the run, there's that big buck there.

• 22:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:06Cameron Hanes?

  I kept filming that thing.

• 22:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was a nice buck.

• 22:08Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I would have arrowed that. But uh, yeah, it's a, it's nuts. It's a, that's a whole different world. I'll tell you what. When I'm glassing ridges for elk or mule deer, I can't afford to miss any movement. That's why for the past two seasons, I've been using six hour binos and I absolutely love them. These optics change the game. The binos I've been using are the Zulu image stabilizing. That means no more shaky glass after a long hike, no more struggling to hold steady after you've humped it up a hill. With image stabilization, you lock in and pick apart the country in a way that just isn't possible with standard glass. I found more animals and saved more time because of these binos, plain and simple. And here's the kicker. Optics companies almost never offer

• 22:53Cameron Hanes?

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• 24:01Cameron Hanes?

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• 24:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's for sure. I also saw you found your book in Barnes and Noble.

• 24:24Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I did.

• 24:25Speaker 01

  Which is always funny. Barnes and Noble, for some reason, is trending right now.

• 24:30Cameron Hanes?

  Really?

• 24:31Speaker 01

  I feel like it is. I always see people like making these reels of people going into Barnes and Noble and I'm like, you [bleep].

• 24:37Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 24:38Speaker 01

  You would make fun of people for going to Barnes and Noble before.

• 24:41Cameron Hanes?

  I love bookstores. I used to go and read Honey magazines in there and drink coffee.

• 24:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:46Cameron Hanes?

  And that one was two stories. It was there, I can't remember what the place is called, but it's right, I mean, it's in, I always still wanted to say Casablanca, but it is.

• 24:56Speaker 01

  Calabasas.

• 24:57Cameron Hanes?

  Calabasas. So it's a really nice place there and nice, super nice restaurants and stores and this two-story Barnes and Noble and.

• 25:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, I always, when I'm in Barnes and Noble, it makes me feel like I can read.

• 25:10Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 25:10Speaker 01

  And I'm like, ah, I want a book.

• 25:12Cameron Hanes?

  I know. See? Hey, all those Nick Fuentes kids, whatever, crying about, go, go there.

• 25:18Speaker 01

  Go to B and N.

• 25:19Cameron Hanes?

  There's girls in there and you can talk about [bleep] books. You hold me in a book upside down. You like this one?

• 25:23Speaker 01

  I mean, they even have a porn section.

• 25:27Cameron Hanes?

  I mean.

• 25:28Speaker 01

  Two birds, one stone.

• 25:29Cameron Hanes?

  Let's get creative, guys.

• 25:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:31Cameron Hanes?

  God, bookstores, that's a ticket.

• 25:34Speaker 01

  I guess so.

• 25:34Cameron Hanes?

  Pretend like you're smart.

• 25:36Speaker 01

  I also saw you set up your new bow.

• 25:40Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, um, it was good. It's a, oh, man. What do I want to say about the new bows? Um, the new bows are incredible. I hate the can release dates and all this, you know, hiding it and all this shit. And then I'm not doing any of that anymore. Um, I never really did it, but it's a, yeah, it's just weird how they they released those right in the middle of hunting season. It's like, I want like months.

• 26:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:14Cameron Hanes?

  Before I'm gonna go elk hunting or something. Now, if I'm, you know, this Texas hunt that I'm gonna do, or Oregon blacktail, or a bearhound where it's 20 yards, whatever, I could pick up, I could pick up a bow just laying right here and kill something. But if I'm expected to go kill mule deer and elk, I can't, I need, I want to believe in that thing.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:32Cameron Hanes?

  You know, I mean, a 400 inch bull elk and I have this bow that I'm not really comfortable with yet. So I don't, this release thing, I, and it's just irritating how the industry hasn't, hasn't hardly changed. I mean, it did back when there was an ATA show, all the new bows used to come out in January, but now the ATA is kind of dead. And I just think that because the, the hunting is so night and day different from back east to out west. They think that, uh, they release this to where like the eastern hunters could get a new bow and use it, I think, I guess, for whitetail. I don't know. And but we've already been hunting.

• 27:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:10Cameron Hanes?

  Since August or, you know, whatever. So, and because the challenge is so much different from tree stand guys in back east, 20 yards, to western guys who want to shoot at 70 yards and do all the tack shoots. Have different lines and have them come up out at different times. Have a western line that comes out in April or May.

• 27:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:36Cameron Hanes?

  And have the eastern line and have the bows perform differently because the guys out east don't need a sight that goes to 100 yards. They don't need to shoot screaming fast arrows. They need to shoot a heavy, hard hitting arrow at 20 yards.

• 27:53Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 27:53Cameron Hanes?

  They need like four, three or four pins, you know, out here, we want our dial up site. We want precision. We want everything. We want like a. A flat flying arrow, we want a high performance bow. It's a whole different, you want high poundage because you're in the mountains. So you're warmed up so you can pull back 80 pounds pretty easy. You try to pull back 80 pounds after sitting for 10 hours in a tree stand when it's 10 degrees? No, you need 60 pounds.

• 28:20Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 28:21Cameron Hanes?

  So what are we doing? Can the industry not change at all? Can we not evolve in any way? And now you're going to say, okay, here's our bow release date. Got to do all this. I'm like, no, I'm, I'm been hunting with this other bow all season. I believe in it. I'm not switching until this is all done.

• 28:38Speaker 01

  It makes no sense. And then it's like, oh, I don't, I don't get it. You would think that the, if, like you said, release it in April or May, or if you have to even June, those, the sales are going to be way higher when it releases. People are getting excited. It's coming spring.

• 28:52Cameron Hanes?

  They got time to set it up. So they're, because, because I think people would be like, no, I'm not buying a new bow now because this one's dialed in and hunting season's coming.

• 29:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, and they've already put their reps in. And the thing is, is like even for, for the hunter that, let's be honest, most guys probably get excited about June, July, start shooting, maybe even later, I don't know. But they're going to go into the shop and see the new bow and be like, okay, I gotta get that.

• 29:14Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 29:14Speaker 01

  Start shooting their old one. They're like, I really want this new bow. It's like.

• 29:17Cameron Hanes?

  I think we could help sales, help people be more successful, help marketing, cater to specific needs of each region, you know, east, west. And I just think it would be the, the best way to do it. Now that said, the bow is incredible. I mean, it, so however long I had to wait to get in, I waited, I didn't get it set up because I was doing all this shit. But that said, it is amazing. So they did, I don't know how they do it. I said in my post, I don't know how these engineers keep, I mean, that tuning system is nuts. It's a. My boat today was never in the press and made all the tweaks where normally you'd have

• 30:01Cameron Hanes?

  to take the axle out, do the shims each side, you know, tearing left, right, doing all this stuff, can axle back out. Oh, went too far with that shim. Oh, take a smaller. It's like, it's a process. Never was in the boat press one time.

• 30:15Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 30:16Cameron Hanes?

  It is. I don't. It's amazing. This technology. So my hat is off to the bow builders and the companies putting them out. I just like, I'm blown away and impressed. And I know I'm going to have a lot of success and confidence, but it's going to take me a while to get it set up to where I'd ever go on like a real Western hunt in the mountains or a grizzly hunt or brown bear hunt or some or a Cape buffalo hunt, something like that. Yeah. I mean, works at controlled setting 20 yards. Yeah, I can be very accurate and have tons of confidence with that and and say, you know, a week or two. But man, I just think we really need to, I think if one of these companies just got innovative on bow releases and catering

• 30:58Cameron Hanes?

  to the needs of of each archer or not each archer, but each region.

• 31:02Speaker 01

  You would think it would make more sense. Maybe again, you know, it's unc and the sidekick who doesn't know anything. So let us know why we're wrong.

• 31:10Cameron Hanes?

  It's all love. It's all love, baby. I mean, yeah. So I mean,

• 31:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, we didn't say that.

• 31:15Cameron Hanes?

  I also, here's what I'm, this is crazy. So I went in, I like buying new stuff. I just like was buying. I like when I get a new bow. I like putting new stuff on it. I don't like taking my old beat up shit and putting on a new bow.

• 31:33Speaker 01

  Right.

• 31:34Cameron Hanes?

  And I'm not dicking around with little with rest sponsors or anything like that anymore, which I don't want to minimize it because they are fricking expensive. But nowadays I just don't care. So I just want to buy what I want, put on what I want. Yeah, I'll do the bow because Hoyt's been an incredible partner. And you know, I have so much confidence in Hoyt and they they have supported me and believed in me and I'm super thankful for that. It's not like I didn't earn it. So it's like, there's not one cherry. So let's not get too crazy. But I do appreciate the partnership. But.

• 32:08Cameron Hanes?

  I like new stuff. So I just started grabbing stuff, you know, uh, what did I, oh yeah, the Spot Hog sight. God, that boonie sight, 444 bucks for the sight. I mean, yes, they are awesome. And it had me even going, God, do you take that sight off my other bow?

• 32:28Cameron Hanes?

  But I'm like, no, I'm going all new on this shit. But point is, that bow all set up today was going to be about $2,600. And then if you get a carbon, it's like 3,100 bucks total. But that's best of the best of everything. I use top of the line, you know, I, I never, back in the day, I, I wanted a PSE Mach 6. I mean, I, it's like, I would think about it every night, but they were $1,100. And I'm like, God, if I had $1,100 bow, I'd be so much, I'd be, even if it's 1% better, that's better.

• 33:07Speaker 01

  Right.

• 33:08Cameron Hanes?

  And I wanted that so bad. But back in the early 90s, 1,100 bucks, it'd be like 10,000 bucks right now for a bow. But point is, still, you know, $2,500. And these arrows, those arrows I shoot are like, I think like 50 bucks a piece.

• 33:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:25Cameron Hanes?

  This shit's expensive.

• 33:26Speaker 01

  So that's not including arrows?

• 33:28Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, no, yeah, the 20, the 26 and the 3,100. So 26 for the aluminum riser bow, 3,100 for the carbon, all with the top of the line. Um, the Hamsky rest, the boonie sight, the awesome Hoyt quiver. Uh, I put that mule stabilizer on, which I don't know how much those are, probably a million. Um, but yeah, all that best of the best. And then I want to shoot the best of the best arrows. And we've talked about this before too. Those were the X10, the parallel pros. I mean, using the Olympics, say whatever you want. Yeah, there's four Fletch on there. I'm a dumbass. But anyway, you start adding that for the bow and then 50 bucks an arrow? God dang.

• 34:12Speaker 01

  That adds up.

• 34:13Cameron Hanes?

  That shit's a lot.

• 34:14Speaker 01

  But you could get the bow just to look at, you know, you don't need arrows.

• 34:19Cameron Hanes?

  True. And you should be doing your taxes anyway.

• 34:21Speaker 01

  True.

• 34:22Cameron Hanes?

  And not hunting.

• 34:22Speaker 01

  Well, that's your mistake. If you did your taxes first, you wouldn't have four Fletches. So.

• 34:28Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So yeah, I don't, I don't know. I mean,

• 34:32Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know what to, I don't know what my point was about the money. All, although, all I'm saying is it's, it costs a lot.

• 34:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:40Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, it's, and you know, bows aren't like rifles. You don't, you gotta get another, a new one next year.

• 34:48Speaker 01

  I mean, you could just shoot a stick bow.

• 34:51Cameron Hanes?

  You could. Yeah. I mean.

• 34:53Speaker 01

  You could make one like Tanner.

• 34:55Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I mean, I have a hard enough time killing with my bow. So a stick bow, I don't know. But um, I just like, I also want to pay for that stuff just because I love that pro shops are, I want, I want Wayne to kick ass. He's been kicking ass for 30 years. The bow rack is, you know, incredible. You know, and now I'm part owner of archery country. I love pro shops. So I want to support pro shops. All the guys working at the bow rack, I want to support them. I want to buy stuff. I want my, they make my arrows. They, you know, we worked on my bow today. I was in there. It was, I loved it. I talked to the other guys coming in. This guy coming in bought a, a Spot Hog seven pin sight. And I remember back in the day,

• 35:40Cameron Hanes?

  people were saying, because I wanted a seven pin sight. Spot Hog had a five and I'm like, I need more. And they're like, well, probably nobody will buy those. And yeah, they sold and they're still selling.

• 35:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:52Cameron Hanes?

  And um, so that guy today, I was telling him, I used to put little, little stickers on 30, 50, 70, because you have seven pins on there. That's a lot of shit to try to keep track of in the heat of the moment. I mean, to find a 50 or 40 in the middle of all that shit. I said, you gotta have something that's going to give you a reference point on there.

• 36:11Speaker 01

  And quick.

• 36:12Cameron Hanes?

  And fast. I mean, so yeah, yeah, I have to die on my sight now. But finding that pin was also a challenge when I did that too. But the point is, I was talking to those guys in there about bow hunting. Um, guys getting fired up for late season. I just, I just love the pro shop life. So I want to support it.

• 36:31Speaker 01

  Yeah. Speaking of Wayne, you know, I did an interview with him on Friday, but he was talking about you back in the day, mullet and the jean jacket. He said you were fashion before fashion even existed.

• 36:47Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I, I don't know. I had definitely had a, I had a look.

• 36:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:54Cameron Hanes?

  So I don't, I don't know where I got it from, but I had it for sure.

• 36:57Speaker 01

  Well, we'll, we'll have to bring it to life in the Wenahaw film because I want to use that part.

• 37:01Cameron Hanes?

  There is, I had the, the jean jacket with the collar popped, a fanny pack and acid washed jeans.

• 37:06Speaker 01

  That's exactly what he's talking about.

• 37:08Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that's it. Yeah. I know. That was, yeah, I think most people thought I was gay, probably.

• 37:13Speaker 01

  Well, that was back before the fanny pack was cool.

• 37:16Cameron Hanes?

  That was before there was gay people, I think. Was there? I don't know. I didn't know any gay people.

• 37:20Speaker 01

  They were still closeted.

• 37:24Speaker 01

  But, well, the other big thing, and I think people obviously care so much about our opinions on things was the Epstein files.

• 37:36Speaker 01

  And it's not looking great.

• 37:40Cameron Hanes?

  I'm, okay. I'm so sick of politics, dude. I can hate, I hate.

• 37:49Cameron Hanes?

  You're Democrat? What the is that? You're Republican? What is that? That, none of that shit means anything anymore. They're all fucking corrupt.

• 37:56Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 37:57Cameron Hanes?

  Fuck them all. I hate politics. I hate every person right now. And, I mean, here's the Epstein files. Oh, Trump ran on the saying that, oh, we're going to release the Epstein files. Oh, no, we're, oh, we're not now. Oh, the Democrats want to. No, the Republicans want to. Oh, we're gonna, okay, here's that. Oh, all these influencers had the Epstein file binders up. It's just like, but there's nothing in there or it's all redacted.

• 38:24Speaker 01

  Or how about all the times we were lied to that they didn't even exist?

• 38:27Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, there's no Epstein files.

• 38:28Speaker 01

  And now all this, it's like. Are we just gonna forget that they said there were no Epstein files?

• 38:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, but then they released them to the influencers and those fucking dorks were holding them up.

• 38:38Speaker 01

  No.

• 38:39Cameron Hanes?

  It's like, what, what do you, and now they're like, now I see post those same people are saying, release all the Epstein files. Like, hey, you said you had them. Remember that binder? You said you had them.

• 38:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, you had them.

• 38:51Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, and, and now then Trump was saying, why are you guys still talking about that? What, what's the big deal? Why are you still talking about that? And it's like, then I was like, what the, what do you mean? You, that's what you ran on. So then he said, why are you still talking about it's no big deal? And now he's saying, well, we're gonna release them all. It's like, I thought you said there's no big deal. God, it makes me wanna punch somebody in the face.

• 39:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, same.

• 39:15Cameron Hanes?

  Holy shit.

• 39:17Speaker 01

  I don't.

• 39:18Cameron Hanes?

  Politicians. Oh my God. So fucking worthless. And I'll tell you what. I don't know. I know there's some dick riders on both sides are just gonna go, would go to the ends of the earth.

• 39:27Speaker 01

  Or dick suckers.

• 39:30Cameron Hanes?

  Baba. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't even know who the Baba is, but I don't really wanna know.

• 39:36Speaker 01

  Or what it is.

• 39:37Cameron Hanes?

  I don't, yeah, I don't, I'm just, it drives me insane. But I think there's a lot of people who, I don't know, maybe not, but maybe feel like me. And yes, we believe in America. I believe in America. I don't believe in these fers.

• 39:58Speaker 01

  No.

• 39:59Cameron Hanes?

  But America, I love. I love our country. I love everything about it. I love our military. And those guys, the military, you know, Tanner was in the military. It's like, those guys, they join because they wanna do something bigger than themselves. They love the idea of America and fighting and, you know, we're, we're independent. That's, that's why we're here. That's how this country started. And, um, Protecting our rights and liberties and freedom. That's, that's why they joined. And then they get over there and who knows what the, why the war is happening or why it happened, or if any of it was real, or we started it to and make money with this war machine. But once they're in, then it's like they're fighting for each other, for their brothers.

• 40:44Cameron Hanes?

  They believe in each other. They, you know, they would die for each other. And then it's about that. It's about, they're not thinking about, why are we here? They're thinking about, what are we doing tonight? What's the, what do we, what's the objective tonight?

• 40:58Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 40:59Cameron Hanes?

  And so I can't, I, I have nothing but respect for the, for the guys at the tip of the spear. But the fucking war machine and this fucking corrupt bureaucrat, fucking lying thieves? I am fucking, I'm, I'm so sick of it.

• 41:17Speaker 01

  With what kind of seems to be no remorse for the human lives that they're sending over there. For, for whatever their gain is.

• 41:24Cameron Hanes?

  They don't give a.

• 41:25Speaker 01

  Zero.

• 41:26Cameron Hanes?

  They, they care about standing in front of a microphone, talking shit and making money.

• 41:32Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 41:33Cameron Hanes?

  And getting, acting pompous and looking down at the American people.

• 41:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know.

• 41:38Cameron Hanes?

  For being passive. Oh, we're the peasants.

• 41:40Speaker 01

  It, it's like, sometimes it kind of reminds me of the Hunger Games. And like the, you know, the Capitol district and it's like, we're not that far from it.

• 41:48Cameron Hanes?

  It doesn't feel like it. I just, I, I'm just, I'm disgusted.

• 41:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, same. I think a lot of people feel that way and I'm hoping, my hope is, is probably wrong, but it's like, for the first time in a long time, people are like, kind of looking across the aisle and saying, oh, we're, we're on the same side here.

• 42:06Cameron Hanes?

  I hope.

• 42:06Speaker 01

  And it's not so much left versus right.

• 42:09Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I mean, just like some of the comments on, you know, on Lexi's page is calling me a MAGA influencer. And yeah, I fucking did, I, I did, I did believe in like, hey, we needed a change, you know, years ago. And I couldn't support what the Democrats were doing. And yeah, but it's fucking over. That's over for me.

• 42:28Speaker 01

  Well, he ran on anti-corruption.

• 42:30Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 42:30Speaker 01

  You know what I mean?

• 42:31Cameron Hanes?

  He's gonna drain the swamp. And I'm like, and perfect. But nothing has changed.

• 42:36Speaker 01

  No, he's a part of the swamp.

• 42:38Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. And it's like, I can't, so that, it's like, and if you can't see, pass out or listen to what I'm saying right now. And, and.

• 42:46Cameron Hanes?

  I I mean, I don't know. I just, I hate the tribalism. Like, oh, I can't, like, people will look at me and say, oh, you're a hunter, baseball hat, beard, and MAGA. And then we'll see, oh, here's the other side. Oh, you're some fucking twink, pink haired liberal. It's like, no, I don't give a, I want to hear what you say. How you, what you believe in. I don't, not the voting. I don't care about the voting.

• 43:10Speaker 01

  Right.

• 43:11Cameron Hanes?

  At all. I don't give a shit about parties. I don't care about any of that. I want, I want just Americans that believe in each other. And can love each other and support each other and like do the right thing and not have it be about politics. And I, I don't know what the answer is, though.

• 43:29Speaker 01

  I don't either, because there seems to be also a good amount of like, people want to be right. It gives them whatever, an ego boost or whatever, but they want to say, told you so.

• 43:37Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I know.

• 43:38Speaker 01

  It's like the people that are like, this is what you voted for.

• 43:38Cameron Hanes?

  You voted for this. Like, shut the up.

• 43:41Speaker 01

  Okay, cool. You, you got me. You got your moment, but like.

• 43:44Cameron Hanes?

  So now what?

• 43:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 43:46Cameron Hanes?

  Does that help? Does that solve anything? It's like, oh, didn't you read the 2025 fucking report? No. Who the read that whole thing? If you would have read, but I, I, I don't like that. You know, the ranchers are suffering because of the tariffs and the buying the beef from, from.

• 44:08Speaker 01

  Argentina.

• 44:09Cameron Hanes?

  Argentina. And, you know, selling off the, in this, and then, oh, then you talk about Israel. They talk about, oh, we've had this. This plan for Israel for a couple of years now. It's like, what?

• 44:22Cameron Hanes?

  What, what do you mean? What plan? To rebuild it? But it wasn't, it didn't need to be rebuilt till we bombed the out of it.

• 44:28Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 44:29Cameron Hanes?

  So how could you have had a plan?

• 44:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, I got into a debate with a buddy who was like, oh, you know, our biggest ally over there. And I'm like, for what?

• 44:37Cameron Hanes?

  What do we get?

• 44:38Speaker 01

  Well, for the Middle East. Why? Why? What are we gaining? No, the only, the American people aren't gaining anything.

• 44:44Cameron Hanes?

  No, here's what, here's, so we were over there for 20, 25 years, Afghanistan. You know who runs it right now? The Taliban.

• 44:53Cameron Hanes?

  Now, it's right back to what it was.

• 44:55Speaker 01

  And that shit pisses me off because it's like.

• 44:59Speaker 01

  That to me is the worst way to honor the people that gave their lives.

• 45:02Cameron Hanes?

  I know it's.

• 45:03Speaker 01

  For whatever purpose they believed in. It's like.

• 45:05Cameron Hanes?

  I know.

• 45:06Speaker 01

  We doing?

• 45:07Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, that it. It makes me sick to my stomach.

• 45:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, sad, but you know, I it's.

• 45:13Cameron Hanes?

  That part's not all love.

• 45:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, that part is. Let's get our heads out of our asses.

• 45:20Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, my God.

• 45:21Speaker 01

  But.

• 45:21Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I mean, I don't care if somebody's like, I just don't know who to believe.

• 45:27Speaker 01

  No, me either. And, you know, I think one of the big solutions here would be just everyone make sure you do your taxes before you go.

• 45:36Speaker 01

  It's more important now than ever.

• 45:37Cameron Hanes?

  That's what we need to add. We need to ask those 20 year old guys with all the answers what the we should do.

• 45:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, but.

• 45:44Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, I don't probably know better than me because I don't know.

• 45:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people feel like that, too, is like, well, obviously, anything I do, how I vote, doesn't matter.

• 45:56Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I mean, it just.

• 45:58Speaker 01

  Which.

• 45:58Cameron Hanes?

  It's demoralizing.

• 45:59Speaker 01

  Kind of feels that way.

• 46:01Cameron Hanes?

  It's demoralizing. It's like, I want to try. I want to believe in something.

• 46:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:06Cameron Hanes?

  That's all. I just want to give me something to believe in. That's it. And I'll can go. I worked hard for them. Hmm. I I, you know, I helped Drayson here when she's running for governor. I I did help Trump in that whole ticket. I mean, I I've been back to DC. I've wanted to help. I want I want I want to believe in something.

• 46:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:26Cameron Hanes?

  But now I'm like, I can't trust anything.

• 46:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, and we all know, you know, you're it's easy. You trust people easily, you know?

• 46:37Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 46:38Speaker 01

  So if you're not trusting anything, then we're screwed.

• 46:40Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, God, yeah. Um, yeah, so that was that was a fun talk.

• 46:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, I feel like that was a good, uh, substance.

• 46:50Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know. I don't know. Hopefully we get some answers. Um, I'm going to be spending some time with some of those people, not those, not, hopefully not those people, but yeah, I'm going to be doing a podcast with Whistling Diesel. That's a, that's a breaking news who got arrested by, I don't, here's what's so stupid. Okay. This, I did want to bring this up. So Whistling Diesel, look them up on Instagram.

• 47:17Speaker 01

  Been around for a while.

• 47:18Cameron Hanes?

  Young kid kicking ass and doing cool stuff with cars. Just, just built a brand.

• 47:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:27Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, making millions. So something about a car registration in Montana. So they came, all these, I guess ATF agents or cops or fucking somebody came like arrested him, this big ordeal over tax evasion. It's like, wait a second. So we can have, spend that much resource on, on arresting some fucking kid, but we got pedophiles running Washington DC and that's fine, but you're worried about this fucking kid who bought a truck in Montana?

• 47:58Speaker 01

  Dude.

• 48:00Cameron Hanes?

  Are you fucking kidding me?

• 48:01Speaker 01

  I don't get it. And if I were the person getting arrested, I'd be like, fuck you.

• 48:05Cameron Hanes?

  That's what he's doing.

• 48:06Speaker 01

  I'm not doing anything.

• 48:07Cameron Hanes?

  That's what he's, he said, I mean, I don't know. So his name's Cody. We're going to go back there, do a podcast and, uh, yeah, I want to, it's, I don't know. What the do I know? I don't know shit about it, but it seems ridiculous to have all that hoopla, tax evasion, arresting, parading him around in handcuffs while what goes on in DC is fucking, is evil.

• 48:34Speaker 01

  You can't, I don't know. I look at that. I'm like, you can't pick and choose which part of the government's work. You know, it's like, fuck you guys.

• 48:42Cameron Hanes?

  That's, I know.

• 48:43Speaker 01

  Which is a, it's a dangerous thing to, I mean, you get a bunch of people thinking that. That's not good.

• 48:50Cameron Hanes?

  No.

• 48:51Speaker 01

  I'm not inciting violence or anything. I'm just saying that's not good.

• 48:54Cameron Hanes?

  No.

• 48:55Speaker 01

  Cause I do know I'm on a list now.

• 48:59Cameron Hanes?

  I just, I just think it, it, it seems ridiculous when you look at the big picture.

• 49:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, it does. It definitely does.

• 49:07Cameron Hanes?

  Anyway, I'm gonna talk to him. I just wanna hear his story also. His story's nuts.

• 49:12Speaker 01

  It should be good.

• 49:12Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 49:13Speaker 01

  Is that gonna be, does he have a podcast? Are we doing that for ours?

• 49:16Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, it's right here. Yeah, so we gotta take our stuff back and just film like we've done like in El Camp with Joe and Adam. Just like that. So he's, uh, he's gonna be at that event that, that, uh, I'm going to and then we'll do the podcast too.

• 49:28Speaker 01

  Is that a black tie event? Am I gonna need my suit?

• 49:30Cameron Hanes?

  Fuck, I have no idea. No, I don't. I mean, yeah.

• 49:35Speaker 01

  Sneak in as a butler.

• 49:37Cameron Hanes?

  Where did I wear, where did I feel severely, oh, I think it was at the

• 49:41Speaker 01

  The White House.

• 49:42Cameron Hanes?

  Uh, no, no, no, no. At the, at Travis's birthday.

• 49:46Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 49:46Cameron Hanes?

  I just wore jeans and my boots.

• 49:51Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, but Kim was wearing camo.

• 49:53Speaker 01

  Really?

• 49:53Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 49:54Speaker 01

  Hurt, your culture is not her costume.

• 49:59Speaker 01

  I thought you needed a tie when you were in DC or something.

• 50:02Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I did. Yeah, yeah. And I had to scrounge up a tie for sure. But, uh, yeah. So I don't, I'm not, I don't dress up, dude. You know, boots and jeans are about as good as it gets. But I, oh, Cheeto was at the UFC this weekend. He said like 30 Russians jumped Dylan Dennis.

• 50:18Speaker 01

  I saw that.

• 50:19Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, he said 30. I'm like, yeah, they don't forget.

• 50:23Speaker 01

  No.

• 50:24Cameron Hanes?

  Those guys play the long game.

• 50:25Speaker 01

  Also, if you're gonna pick 30 guys to jump you, that's probably

• 50:28Cameron Hanes?

  The worst, the absolute worst.

• 50:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:32Cameron Hanes?

  Holy shit.

• 50:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I

• 50:34Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, I can't believe he got out of there alive.

• 50:38Speaker 01

  I didn't see, was he pretty?

• 50:40Cameron Hanes?

  He didn't look that bad. I mean, but I did see one like have a chair and somebody grabbed the chair, but a metal chair? This wasn't like WWE. No, this is like a real metal chair.

• 50:52Speaker 01

  Hey, WWE's real.

• 50:53Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I know.

• 50:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay, okay.

• 50:55Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Is Logan Paul the champion?

• 50:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. I also saw that Bo Nickle landed a vicious kick, high kick.

• 51:02Cameron Hanes?

  I know. I texted him and I, and I texted him because that, I also texted Joe. He was calling the fight, but I was like

• 51:11Cameron Hanes?

  To the shadow realm there that height but that fight to start um that guy looks so scary.

• 51:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:21Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, he's a little older, like thirty some. He looks like just a killer and just shredded and Brazilian and just the up ears, but Bo has fucked up ears too, but Bo looks, you know, young. And I'm like, oh, my God, this guy, this might be hard. And Bo lit him up.

• 51:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was a good fight.

• 51:40Cameron Hanes?

  He beat the shit out of him. Bo is a fucking machine.

• 51:44Speaker 01

  He's a beast.

• 51:45Cameron Hanes?

  And then that head kick. But no, I mean, Bo looked amazing. I was super pumped to see that. Then he gets up there and flips off the crowd.

• 51:56Cameron Hanes?

  Which is, I think he gets mad because those guys work so hard. And then, no matter how, no matter how good or whatever you do, people are like, talk shit about you. It's like, what the? And he said, pick one, love me or hate me.

• 52:10Speaker 01

  I love that. I mean, you've knocked somebody out like that, talk your shit.

• 52:15Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I know. He, that was amazing. That was a, it was a good night of fights. But yeah, that, the fight in the crowd was nuts.

• 52:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was, I saw clips from that.

• 52:24Cameron Hanes?

  I think Shumayev was in a fight too.

• 52:26Speaker 01

  Was he?

• 52:26Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 52:27Speaker 01

  Huh? I just saw, you know, Dana was like, Danus isn't, Dylan Danus isn't invited back to any more UFC fights.

• 52:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 52:34Speaker 01

  Probably a good bet.

• 52:36Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, but I do respect how he, you know, they asked if he wanted to press charges and he's like, no. So what do you expect with fighters?

• 52:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, I like that too.

• 52:45Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, he's, no, Dana's a G.

• 52:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:48Cameron Hanes?

  Nothing but respect. But, uh, yeah, so that's a wide ranging.

• 52:53Speaker 01

  Lot of topics.

• 52:54Cameron Hanes?

  Lot of topics on the shit talk.

• 52:55Speaker 01

  I gotta piss like a racehorse.

• 52:58Cameron Hanes?

  All right.

• 53:00Cameron Hanes?

  A mare.

• 53:02Cameron Hanes?

  That's a.

• 53:07Cameron Hanes?

  No Bubba suck.

• 53:10Cameron Hanes?

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• 55:32Speaker 02

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• 55:46Speaker 02

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