From Cartels to Escobar Phone Fails w/ La'Ron Hines

Laci welcomes back her great friend, actor and influencer La'Ron Hines (from the Snapchat Original Series: La’Ron In A Million) to the show! Together, Laci and La'Ron dive into the Escobar Phone, one of Roberto Escobar, the late Pablo Escobar’s brother’s, many serial entrepreneurial ventures. They also unpack Delta AI pricing tools, flamethrowers, Roberto’s feud with Elon Musk, and much more. Stay schemin’! CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Did you miss out on a custom-signed Scam Goddess book? Look no more, nab your copy on PODSWAG Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci La'Ron Hines: @laronhinesofficial Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://9to5google.com/2025/07/22/escobar-gold-plated-foldable-prison-plea-deal/ https://fortune.com/2016/07/07/drug-kingpin-netflix/ https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/5/20850693/samsung-galaxy-fold-hands-on-ifa-2019-fixed-display-hinge https://thenextweb.com/news/pablo-escobars-brother-escalates-flamethrower-feud-with-elon-musk-threatens-tesla-takeover https://www.businessinsider.com/pablo-escobars-brother-roberto-escobar-selling-foldable-smartphone-2019-12 https://www.t3.com/tech/phones/the-foldable-phone-maker-that-beat-samsung-to-market-has-gone-bust https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/escobar-fold-2-is-a-399-galaxy-fold-clone/ https://www.techspot.com/news/108761-escobar-phone-creator-pleads-guilty-scamming-buyers-never.html https://www.courthousenews.com/seller-of-pablo-escobar-branded-flamethrowers-pleads-guilty-to-fraud/ https://www.news18.com/explainers/mkbhds-escobar-fold-scam-episode-comes-to-a-poetic-end-a-complete-timeline-9459042.html#google_vignette

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• 2:48Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with another installment of the podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. I am so what? Yes, excited, thrilled, elated for today's guest. They are an actor, singer, writer, producer, a host, and the creator of the Snapchat original series, La'Ron in a Million. I know that already gives it away. And I bet you've seen his viral TikTok videos where he asked the question, "Are you smart?" to preschoolers and celebrities like Rihanna, Rianna, Rihanna Fenty. He's gracious with his presence before when he helped us uncover the diabolical shrink next door. And I'm elated to welcome him back to the show today. So ladies, gentlemen, they's, them's, non-binary icons, please stand up.

• 3:33Laci Mosley?

  Congregation, welcome my space partner, La'Ron Hines, to the show.

• 3:39Speaker 04

  Y'all, I'm so excited to be back. I'm so happy to be here. My space partner had to invite me back after we, like, you know.

• 3:47Laci Mosley?

  We was whooping on him. We couldn't finish the game, but we were whooping on him. We were beating on him something real awful, you know? I almost felt bad. I didn't, but I almost did.

• 3:56Speaker 04

  I almost did, but no one mourns the wicked.

• 3:58Laci Mosley?

  And there it is, a word for the church, okay?

• 4:03Speaker 04

  Hello.

• 4:04Laci Mosley?

  Now, La'Ron, we always ask on this podcast, what's your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Have you been a part of some? Or have some happened on you? I like to say happened on you, not to you.

• 4:14Speaker 04

  Listen, I support a good scam, but one scam that got me a lot of times as a kid. Okay. It is celebrity Facebook pages. Like, you ever just try? I would friend people on Facebook thinking that they were celebrities. I had like ten Selena Gomez's on there. I had like fifteen Ariana Grande's.

• 4:33Laci Mosley?

  You was asking all of them if they were smart?

• 4:35Speaker 04

  No, like, before I even started the, are you smart? This was like, this was like when I was in sixth grade.

• 4:40Laci Mosley?

  They booking you now, but, but, yeah.

• 4:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was like in sixth grade. I'm adding like Miley Cyrus. I'm adding everybody because I'm thinking, these are the real people. And then we start having like little conversations. I'm talking to like ten, ten Hannah Montanas in the, in the Facebook messages. So it's like, you know, we're just like, we're keeping up. I think that's how I've been scammed because I was under the impression that those were the real people. But then again, I'm also an American everyday consumer. So I feel like that is being.

• 5:04Laci Mosley?

  I mean, you're also Gen Z. So I feel like y'all came up with so much internet that you, why not believe when you're 12 years old or 11 years old, that you are on this Real Celebrities fan page or Facebook page?

• 5:18Speaker 04

  Listen, Facebook is the breeding ground for delusion because now I am no longer on Facebook. But now they have AI posters of everything and all of the things are from the aunties that are like, is this real? No way this is real.

• 5:30Laci Mosley?

  And my, the aunties are the most susceptible community. Call your grandparents and your aunties, especially your aunties because your aunties have a little bit more like, uh, tech savvy than your grandparents. So your aunties are gonna copy paste the link, put it in the family group chat. Your auntie's the one sending you Bible quotes with the sunset in the background. And I'm like, auntie, I'm not clicking on this. I am not clicking on this link. They're like, no, but it's something you need to hear. Okay, I'm like, no, I don't think it is. They're like, you heard about 3G? I'm like, please, auntie, no. Auntie, no.

• 5:59Speaker 04

  Tell me why I get those.

• 6:00Laci Mosley?

  You know me, 3G texts I got during COVID. I was like, y'all, the government don't care about us that much. We give them our information for free. They not doing that.

• 6:06Speaker 04

  Literally same. I think, um, what my aunties, they do, um, is two things. So one, they send like little brain teasers that they find, you know, it's like, find the cat in the picture and you have to like circle like, they send me those like 30,000 times a day in the family group chat, number one. But then also like, I don't know if you ever get those random posts where it's like, on June 19th, we're gonna stage a walkout on this day at this time. Everyone, tune in, we're gonna boycott this place. They send it out to me and I'm like, auntie, I'm promise you, everyone is not gonna do that. I, I really commend you. But it's literally gonna be all three of y'all doing it by yourselves. Destiny's Child.

• 6:43Laci Mosley?

  Not in the Latoya Laker, gonna come.

• 6:45Speaker 04

  Latoya, no. We talking deep. Phaedra.

• 6:49Laci Mosley?

  Not Phaedra.

• 6:50Speaker 04

  Wrong show.

• 6:52Speaker 04

  We on the wrong performance.

• 6:55Laci Mosley?

  But also a performance.

• 6:56Speaker 04

  Also a performance nonetheless.

• 6:58Laci Mosley?

  But wrong show. No, we talked about that on the podcast recently where we were like, y'all, we can't boycott like this. You can't be like, everybody, we're walking out. You put it on the internet like the company doesn't see it.

• 7:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:08Laci Mosley?

  And it's like, okay, y'all gonna give them one day of bad profits. Y'all all gonna be in there slurping on that lemonade.

• 7:12Speaker 04

  The next day.

• 7:13Laci Mosley?

  The next day. We all gonna be down at Biggie Chicken, ha- having a biscuit. So we just gotta be serious.

• 7:19Speaker 04

  It never, it never lasts. Like, I mean, I'm all for a good, like, let's, yeah, let's really stick it to the ma- listen. I'm all for it. I'm all for the power to the people.

• 7:29Laci Mosley?

  You do look like you should be like on an Olympic mascot, like, or not mascot, but like one of those like podiums right now.

• 7:34Speaker 04

  Look, I feel like, I feel like Dr. Umar at the Breakfast Club. You know what he was like?

• 7:39Laci Mosley?

  Okay, this is how you know that you're really about to say something.

• 7:41Speaker 04

  That I'm really about to say something. Cause you know, I'm all for like, you know, boycotting, but give me a plan. Like, don't just say, we gonna do it at this time, that, like, what are we?

• 7:49Laci Mosley?

  It's gotta be indefinite, guys.

• 7:51Speaker 04

  What are we hitting?

• 7:52Laci Mosley?

  It's gotta be indefinite till we get what we want, okay?

• 7:55Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 7:55Laci Mosley?

  We just be like, we mad. Like, that's our boycott. We angry.

• 8:00Speaker 04

  We pissed.

• 8:01Laci Mosley?

  Everybody, we mad. Y'all come outside, be mad together.

• 8:03Speaker 04

  Be mad together, that's it.

• 8:04Laci Mosley?

  Okay, that's not a boycott, that's an angry mob, okay? That's different, okay?

• 8:08Speaker 04

  It's a little bit different.

• 8:08Laci Mosley?

  And let us know if we're mobbing, cause then, you know, we go get the pitchforks, we go to the Home Depot.

• 8:13Speaker 04

  I'm mobbed too, I make a sign.

• 8:15Laci Mosley?

  Listen, okay?

• 8:16Speaker 04

  I'm one to make a sign.

• 8:16Laci Mosley?

  And a clever one at that, somebody said, y'all are detracting from the movement with these funny signs. It's like, what do you want us to do? We outside, we trying to have some fun.

• 8:23Speaker 04

  We ain't had a serious conversation since Silver Right, so why, why, why, why stop now?

• 8:28Laci Mosley?

  The second that we stopped protesting in church shoots and dresses, it was a serious, okay? The girlies are out here at the protest and booty shaw.

• 8:35Speaker 04

  Listen. Where are the three-piece suits? We should be singing, we shall overcome, come on.

• 8:41Laci Mosley?

  No, you gonna be able to count the change in a dude's pocket when he come outside. He like, the, the bitches love activism, okay?

• 8:49Laci Mosley?

  I'm trying to get activated.

• 8:50Speaker 04

  I'm trying to get activated, down here. They was protesting outside of my building, um, a few weeks ago, and, um, I was on my way to hot yoga. There's a hot yoga studio right across the street from me.

• 9:01Laci Mosley?

  What more disruptive than like, you're like.

• 9:04Speaker 04

  No, but like.

• 9:04Laci Mosley?

  You're like going to Zen out and they're like, hell no, we won't go.

• 9:07Speaker 04

  Exactly. No, but like, I stopped. I'm like 15 minutes early for yoga. I'm never this early for yoga. I'm like, I got time, let me go out here and protest for a second.

• 9:16Laci Mosley?

  And then let me dip a toe.

• 9:18Speaker 04

  No, I did that, but like, I ended up missing yoga and just protested for like two hours. It was good. It was amazing.

• 9:25Laci Mosley?

  That's beautiful.

• 9:25Speaker 04

  I felt so empowered. I'm like, listen, this is what community is about.

• 9:29Laci Mosley?

  Truly.

• 9:30Speaker 04

  Cause the thing is, it wasn't even a real protest of sticking it to the man. We had police approval. We had everything. They had the streets blocked off. It was a parade, basically.

• 9:37Laci Mosley?

  Okay, so it was going on white people protest.

• 9:39Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 9:39Laci Mosley?

  Those, okay, black people, look, we can't all go at once. We gotta make like a phone tree or a win to me. But when the white people get out here and protest.

• 9:46Speaker 04

  It's organized.

• 9:47Laci Mosley?

  No, it's not. It's not organized, honey. They want childcare and finger painting. And what it is, is that the black, when black people are not there to be assaulted and harassed by the state, the protests are more peaceful, cause police don't want to go out there and beat on white people. That's not fun for them.

• 10:02Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 10:02Laci Mosley?

  So, like, they're like, white people still have rights. Like, we might actually lose our jobs. We're like, oh, are you brown? Are you around? Get down on the ground.

• 10:09Speaker 04

  If it's brown, get on the ground.

• 10:11Laci Mosley?

  If it's brown, get on the ground.

• 10:14Laci Mosley?

  If it's white.

• 10:16Speaker 04

  It's aye.

• 10:16Laci Mosley?

  It's aye.

• 10:20Laci Mosley?

  But that's more of the thing there. Funny that you say that. I do always have the urge to protest if I see a protest. We were in Amsterdam, me and my cousin, and there was a protest happening. And they were rounding people up. And we were on the side that they were rounding up. But we were also like tourists, like literally on our way to the ice house to like have a drink and a, in a cup of ice. And like do the corniest thing ever. And we saw this protest and I was like, starting to like say to chant, cause I can't help it. If we chant, we chant. And my cousin was like, yo, we can't, we cannot get locked up in the Netherlands. We are black. And I was like, yeah, you right. Let's go into the tourist spot. Like, I wanted to dip a toe though. I wanted to dip a toe.

• 10:58Speaker 04

  It's the thought that counts.

• 11:00Laci Mosley?

  But then I was like, damn, we gotta go in here to capitalism, cause we can't. I just shout out one to freedom before they take me inside. I'm like, to freedom. Yes, we have the appointment for, uh, yeah, for 7pm.

• 11:12Speaker 04

  Please.

• 11:12Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 11:13Speaker 04

  No, for two.

• 11:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, for two, yes. We ordered the ice beer cup. Yes, yes, thank you so much. But also, to freedom!

• 11:21Speaker 04

  To freedom!

• 11:22Laci Mosley?

  Close the door, close the door.

• 11:22Speaker 04

  All at once.

• 11:23Laci Mosley?

  Close the door. Because we can't get picked up.

• 11:26Speaker 04

  You lifting the blinds from the inside.

• 11:27Laci Mosley?

  Right. Trying to give a little thumbs up through the blinds, like...

• 11:31Speaker 04

  You're doing amazing, sweetie.

• 11:32Laci Mosley?

  You're doing amazing.

• 11:35Laci Mosley?

  Listen, we help where we can.

• 11:36Speaker 04

  We can.

• 11:36Laci Mosley?

  We do what we can. Yes. With the aunties on Facebook, and just Facebook in general, we know that it's ripe for scams. And you would think after at least the 2016 election, where we saw Russian interference to the point where, you know, Zuckerburger, before he became like Jack Carlo, like, he was wearing that bold haircut, and he had to go sit in front of the girls, you know, at the White House. Not the White House, but, you know, in the sending hearings.

• 11:59Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 12:00Laci Mosley?

  And be like, hey, oh, yeah.

• 12:01Speaker 04

  So...

• 12:02Laci Mosley?

  So some ass were bought. Somebody bought the ass.

• 12:06Speaker 04

  Somebody.

• 12:07Laci Mosley?

  But, you know, we just sell ass. We didn't ask what...

• 12:11Speaker 04

  My name Bennett.

• 12:12Laci Mosley?

  And I am not...

• 12:13Speaker 04

  And I am not in it.

• 12:14Laci Mosley?

  In it, okay?

• 12:14Speaker 04

  As he counts the money that he just collected.

• 12:16Laci Mosley?

  I disliked every post. That's what I want to tell y'all. I was like, thumbs down.

• 12:20Speaker 04

  Thumbs down, listen.

• 12:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I'm on your side.

• 12:22Speaker 04

  Listen, me and you, we here.

• 12:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 12:24Speaker 04

  We each...

• 12:24Laci Mosley?

  I was like, I can't believe this. That's why I came up here. Because I was like, let's be mad together. You know what? Why am I sitting on the opposite side of y'all? Let me get up over there on the bench.

• 12:31Speaker 04

  Over here with y'all. We set my people.

• 12:33Laci Mosley?

  Right. Why are we sitting across from each other like we enemies?

• 12:39Laci Mosley?

  If I ever got in trouble at the state...

• 12:42Speaker 04

  I definitely just hit my...

• 12:43Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God, are you okay?

• 12:44Speaker 04

  I'm okay. I definitely just hit my mouth on this mic, though.

• 12:48Laci Mosley?

  I couldn't tell if you were like laughing, and this was your new laugh. Because I was like, this is...

• 12:51Speaker 04

  Not that I have to laugh.

• 12:54Laci Mosley?

  I thought maybe that was your new laugh, but... But no, I'm with it. Um, well, speaking of like, kind of like AI and fake things like that on Facebook, I'm gonna do a what's hot in fraud. We haven't had one of these in a minute, LaRozza. So you're bringing it, you're bringing that old thing back. Give me a, give me a good sound there, Rich. A little cha-cha, something, you know. We're bringing it blast from the past.

• 13:16Speaker 04

  Uh-oh.

• 13:17Laci Mosley?

  No. So I really, this came across my desk, and by my desk, I mean, um, Twitter. And then I went to, um...

• 13:25Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 13:25Laci Mosley?

  Some legitimate sources, as you all should do. Stop seeing a picture in some bold type font and thinking it's facts.

• 13:32Speaker 04

  What Megan say? Just because you see a picture and that little wording at the top?

• 13:37Laci Mosley?

  That don't make it news. That don't mean it's news.

• 13:39Speaker 04

  You got a fact check.

• 13:40Laci Mosley?

  And people even still like to get on Twitter and be like, oh, to be like a gotcha, they go on Wikipedia and be like, this is on Wikipedia. And I'm like, I grew up in a time where Wikipedia was a laughable source. They would fail you if that was a source in your papers or anything because anybody can edit Wikipedia.

• 13:54Speaker 04

  Exactly. No, I saw someone-

• 13:56Laci Mosley?

  You give Wiki a dollar and they like, we gonna let you holler. Like, what?

• 13:59Speaker 04

  It was one of the most recent, like, um, I forgot what happened. But TMZ had put something out there and then of course, like TMZ is always the first to put it out.

• 14:07Laci Mosley?

  TMZ know if you dead before you are.

• 14:09Speaker 04

  Before you are, exactly. And I think this is actually like the Malcolm Jamal Warner situation. And someone had posted it and they're like, is this real? TMZ just says it's real. It's like, it's not real until someone else confirms it. Someone puts a screenshot from Wikipedia and said, it's real.

• 14:23Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 14:23Speaker 04

  There's no way that that was your-

• 14:27Laci Mosley?

  They're not teaching the girls about sources anymore.

• 14:29Speaker 04

  They're not. We grew up in a, we used to be a proper country where you had to cite your sources and they had to be Bible. They had to be. No, there's actually, um, did you watch American Idol any last season?

• 14:41Laci Mosley?

  Last, recent season?

• 14:42Speaker 04

  The recent season.

• 14:43Laci Mosley?

  Absolutely not.

• 14:43Speaker 04

  No, okay.

• 14:44Laci Mosley?

  I haven't watched since William Hung. After she banged, I left.

• 14:47Speaker 04

  Listen, I didn't watch it either, but funny enough, a guy won from my home state. So it's like a big thing, right? Like, you know, everyone's-

• 14:54Laci Mosley?

  You're from Mississippi?

• 14:55Speaker 04

  I'm from Mississippi, yeah. So a guy won from my home state. I think his name is Jamal Roberts. But there are so many fake articles about this man on Facebook.

• 15:02Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 15:03Speaker 04

  And all of the aunties from back home are sharing them. It's like, he's just donated 50 million dollars to this foundation.

• 15:09Laci Mosley?

  You know what? At least they're positive. At least it's good PR.

• 15:12Speaker 04

  It's always good PR, but it's like, they're just like, I love this. It's like, where did he get this money from?

• 15:17Laci Mosley?

  He on TV, Laurent.

• 15:19Speaker 04

  The day rate is 400 and you know that. And that's being generous.

• 15:22Laci Mosley?

  They don't know that. The second you're on TV, people think you have a lot of money.

• 15:26Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 15:27Laci Mosley?

  It don't matter which. I mean, I played a dead body on PBS and they were like, oh, you big time now, Hollywood. I was like, y'all, I was dead. Like, on PBS.

• 15:35Speaker 04

  I had two lines-

• 15:36Laci Mosley?

  The public broadcast.

• 15:38Speaker 04

  I had two lines in Alina Waithe project. You would have thought I was Denzel. Listen, me and Denzel was going yacht shopping together, actually.

• 15:46Laci Mosley?

  We were, you were.

• 15:47Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 15:48Laci Mosley?

  Okay, y'all eat at the same restaurants?

• 15:49Speaker 04

  Same restaurants. Listen, me and Rihanna both went to Giorgio Balde and we had a bottle war. That's how rich I am.

• 15:57Laci Mosley?

  We had a bottle war, it's crazy. We had a yacht off.

• 16:01Speaker 04

  We had a yacht off.

• 16:05Laci Mosley?

  I'm like, y'all, that's not why. I think that's why it's hard for us to get actor, people on the actors' strike when they're not from LA and they don't work in Hollywood. Cause they're like, you're all just rich and entitled, y'all just want more money. And it's like, no, that is not how this industry works, babe. They're like, no, we saw you on CSI playing a beggar. We know you got it.

• 16:29Speaker 04

  But the gag is, I got paid more for my thumb to be in a pizza commercial than my entire face on a TV screen.

• 16:35Laci Mosley?

  Those residuals on commercials now.

• 16:37Speaker 04

  On commercials, don't nobody want to talk about. Now that's.

• 16:38Laci Mosley?

  That's who you need to be looking at.

• 16:39Speaker 04

  That's who you need to be looking at.

• 16:41Laci Mosley?

  If you see somebody in a commercial more than once, and it's a different one, like all them progressive people, we need to rob them. We need to rob them.

• 16:47Speaker 04

  Listen.

• 16:48Laci Mosley?

  Flo is rich, rich.

• 16:50Speaker 04

  Flo is the, is the ethical billionaire that people think Taylor Swift is.

• 16:55Speaker 04

  Listen, that's who Flo is.

• 16:57Laci Mosley?

  It's like, we need a Forbes for the commercial earners. And they're like, don't do that. Don't ever tell people what we make.

• 17:02Speaker 04

  Listen, Annie from Popeyes. Does anybody remember her?

• 17:05Laci Mosley?

  Come on down to Popeyes and try this chicken. And you know I cooked every single wing. And I was like, yeah, she did, she's the owner of Popeyes.

• 17:13Speaker 04

  She is Popeyes. I think she's at every location cooking up that chicken.

• 17:18Laci Mosley?

  Cooking it up in the neck.

• 17:18Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 17:19Laci Mosley?

  I don't know how she does it.

• 17:20Speaker 04

  I don't know how she does it. Like, but Santa Claus can be so many places at one night, too.

• 17:23Laci Mosley?

  Exactly, and she's the Santa Claus of fried chicken.

• 17:25Speaker 04

  She is the Santa Claus of fried chicken.

• 17:26Laci Mosley?

  I'm there with you. So Louisiana fast, so she's Louisiana fast. That's how she gets all around the continental US.

• 17:33Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 17:33Laci Mosley?

  Cooking that chicken.

• 17:34Speaker 04

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• 19:07Laci Mosley?

  But throwing it back to the AI thing, I want to talk, speaking about being all over town, what a great, you're just full of great segues, Theron. I'd love to have you here. Happy to be here. So I wanted to talk about something I came across on Twitter and then I went and verified on like Fortune Magazine and a few other like legitimate sources. So Delta, which is my preferred airline, Delta's sponsoring the show. But they're moving forward with eliminating set prices in favor of AI that determines how much you pay for a ticket.

• 19:38Speaker 04

  Walk me through that again, I'm trying to understand.

• 19:40Laci Mosley?

  So, you know how when you're going to book a flight, there used to be old tricks like try to buy your flights on a Tuesday, that's a low buying day, or if you're gonna buy your flight, buy it in incognito mode, or use a different device in a different area, and then when you see the price you want, go buy it on your computer, so it's lower, or you know, we used to have sites like Cheapo Air, Cheapo Air held me down during college. Now I got a little, got a little sketchier after that, but you know, Cheapo used to be where you could really get some air.

• 20:09Speaker 04

  Love a good, love a good TripAdvisor, Cheapo Air, love, love all of them.

• 20:13Laci Mosley?

  A little discount air, right? And so, what Delta's proposing now to like, increase profits, because you know we have to be constantly increasing profits, until nobody has any money for the company left to take.

• 20:27Speaker 04

  Capitalism, baby.

• 20:29Laci Mosley?

  Capitalism, okay?

• 20:30Speaker 04

  Capitalism, baby.

• 20:31Laci Mosley?

  Infinite growth, until you are infinitely dead.

• 20:34Speaker 04

  If you don't like it, you leave.

• 20:37Laci Mosley?

  If you don't like it, you die is really what it is, but you can't afford to leave.

• 20:40Speaker 04

  You can't afford to leave.

• 20:42Laci Mosley?

  So, and speaking of leaving and not affording it, Delta's now going to use cookies that other websites have for like, your spending habits. So let's say you just went on Bloomingdale and you got, you re-upped on your fancy perfume, or you, you know, got, you splurged on something or whatever, those cookies are now in your computer. I know y'all, a lot of y'all probably got got with this. Let's say you got your Beyonce fit, and then you went to book your flight to see Beyonce, wherever that lady told you to go.

• 21:10Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 21:11Laci Mosley?

  If you spent a lot of money on your Beyonce fit, there's a higher likelihood now with Delta eliminating fixed pricing, that you might have to spend more for that flight, and this is so alarming to me.

• 21:23Speaker 04

  That's crazy to me.

• 21:24Laci Mosley?

  Because you could make a large purchase and not, you know, and that might, it might be like a bed, maybe you just needed a bed, beds are expensive, and then if you went to go buy a flight after that, they could be like, oh, you got that bed money.

• 21:36Speaker 04

  You got a bed money.

• 21:37Laci Mosley?

  So we're gonna run at the price.

• 21:38Speaker 04

  You ain't sleeping on the floor?

• 21:39Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 21:41Laci Mosley?

  You're not getting our, our pallet prices, okay? Cause you got, you got mattress money.

• 21:45Speaker 04

  You got mattress money.

• 21:47Laci Mosley?

  So we're gonna have to run it on you. And I was like, are you serious? Because they're gonna use AI. And so AI, you know, basically uses specific words to, you know, formulate like random ass sentences. Like it takes our information that we put into AI and then it regenerates that for other people. The more you speak into AI, more it learns. You can tell AI, talk like a black person, it'll put on its best ebonics.

• 22:08Speaker 04

  Listen.

• 22:09Laci Mosley?

  They started with us.

• 22:10Speaker 04

  I'm guilty.

• 22:10Laci Mosley?

  They always do. I was like, why are y'all trying to make imaginary niggas? Y'all got it so bad.

• 22:13Speaker 04

  I'm guilty. I told mine to have a southern accent one time.

• 22:16Laci Mosley?

  No, listen.

• 22:17Speaker 04

  I was just testing it out to see.

• 22:19Laci Mosley?

  It's bad for the planet.

• 22:20Speaker 04

  It is.

• 22:21Laci Mosley?

  Killing people in Memphis.

• 22:26Speaker 04

  Where did that come from?

• 22:28Laci Mosley?

  There's one of the largest plants to like.

• 22:30Speaker 04

  Really? It's in Memphis?

• 22:31Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 22:32Speaker 04

  I got family there, I gotta chill out.

• 22:33Laci Mosley?

  You killing all your cousins. I can't believe you, LaRae. Cousin side.

• 22:38Speaker 04

  Okay, I get it. They painted me out to be the bad guy.

• 22:43Speaker 04

  They painted me out to be the bad guy.

• 22:46Laci Mosley?

  No, but a lot of people use it and don't know like how just insidious it is. But it can also pull words from your emails and things like that. So let's say you just got an email about bereavement. And then you go to buy a flight. AI can put two and two together that you might be purchasing a flight for a funeral. And run up the price. Cause the funeral ain't gonna happen but once, ain't gonna be but one funeral.

• 23:06Speaker 04

  See.

• 23:07Laci Mosley?

  If you miss it, you're not at the funeral.

• 23:09Speaker 04

  You could at least lower the price if I'm going to a funeral.

• 23:11Laci Mosley?

  No, why would they ever lower, lower in price?

• 23:14Speaker 04

  I mean.

• 23:14Laci Mosley?

  Together?

• 23:15Speaker 04

  We trying to mourn the wicked, come on now.

• 23:17Laci Mosley?

  No, no, no. I ain't never heard Laura and Price from a company.

• 23:21Speaker 04

  That is true.

• 23:22Laci Mosley?

  We don't even put those words together. They've never existed in a sentence.

• 23:25Speaker 04

  And if you don't like it, you don't like it.

• 23:26Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 23:26Speaker 04

  That's all I heard.

• 23:27Laci Mosley?

  They might be like lower the price when they're like, okay, people don't have any more money for us to take.

• 23:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, use that AI to see what's in my account, then you'll leave me alone.

• 23:34Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 23:34Speaker 04

  Please.

• 23:35Laci Mosley?

  Well, they not, they can't, they're not quite going into the bank account yet. They're looking at your spending habits. Cause they don't care if you don't have it. That's why they got Klarna. Even though they going out there in heavy, heavy debt. You know, that's why they got Klarna.

• 23:46Speaker 04

  Klarna's going in debt?

• 23:47Laci Mosley?

  Oh, oh, 100 million dollars in debt. Don't, why would you pay them?

• 23:50Speaker 04

  I gotta help.

• 23:51Laci Mosley?

  You're wildin', LaRae. You're trying to do corporate welfare on this podcast? LaRae is wild. He is a wild. Wilder, you know what? Now I know, I laughed real hard when I saw the news reports that PayPal and Venmo were gonna have a way for you to be able to contribute to the government's national debt, where you could like donate to the US's national debt. And I laughed so hard that I thought I wasn't gonna make it. But Laurent, I think you might give them something for that thirty-seven trio. You know, let me put something on, I got five for you.

• 24:20Speaker 04

  I got five on it. Listen, I bought-

• 24:22Laci Mosley?

  I do not, I have nothing on it. In fact, give me my money.

• 24:25Speaker 04

  Please, actually.

• 24:28Laci Mosley?

  Help you. That's like helping, why am I helping my robber?

• 24:32Speaker 04

  At a certain point, you have-

• 24:33Laci Mosley?

  It's like hitting a robber up after they robbed you once to be like, hey man,

• 24:36Speaker 04

  I got another one.

• 24:36Laci Mosley?

  I only had like sixty dollars in my wallet at the time, but I just got paid.

• 24:39Speaker 04

  I got another one for you.

• 24:40Laci Mosley?

  Right. You wanna run another stick up?

• 24:44Laci Mosley?

  No!

• 24:44Speaker 04

  Not a staged stick up.

• 24:46Laci Mosley?

  I'm trying to help you out, I know you need it.

• 24:48Speaker 04

  I know you need it.

• 24:49Laci Mosley?

  You're out in the streets robbing people, so.

• 24:51Speaker 04

  Take it. You gotta, that's one of them dap ups when you gotta, you gotta put the money in like that.

• 24:55Laci Mosley?

  Oh yes. I call, yeah, I call it those handshakes. I used to do those to like wait, uh, maître d's and like hostesses. If I didn't have a reservation, I'd just be like, oh my gosh, whatever you can do. And you know, you stick a little forty in there and they'll do something for you.

• 25:09Speaker 04

  I've only ever had one person do it to me, no, my granddad.

• 25:11Laci Mosley?

  Give me my money back. It's only happened one time where I was like, give me my money back.

• 25:14Speaker 04

  Actually, no, like, hand it, hand it here.

• 25:17Laci Mosley?

  No, hand it back to me. They were appalled. I'm like, you can't help me.

• 25:19Speaker 04

  You can't-

• 25:20Laci Mosley?

  This is a quit, pro quo, bro. We quit, pro quo.

• 25:22Speaker 04

  You know, good, I need to get my money back. I'm getting a refund. Please, give it here.

• 25:25Laci Mosley?

  I did the quit, pro, give it a quo.

• 25:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, I actually did that when I, oh gosh, I can't believe I'm saying this, but um, when I, before I was twenty-one and I wanted to get into a club, when I would hand them my ID, I would give them my real ID that said I was, that said I was nineteen. Underage, but I put the-

• 25:41Laci Mosley?

  You put a little money in the back.

• 25:42Speaker 04

  I just started making money from TikTok, y'all. Y'all gotta understand, TikTok was paying me handsomely. I had to, but I handed them that ID, the little money under it, I'm like- I'm like looking around, I'm like, yeah. You gonna let me through? Yeah.

• 25:55Laci Mosley?

  And that works for me every single time in Miami, but once. And that man was just a hater.

• 26:00Speaker 04

  Exactly. Now, you may get a hater every now and then.

• 26:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but typically if you put enough under there, they'll go ahead. And then you know what was crazy? The hater took my ID. We're on vacation, everybody else is 21, but me, I'm 20. He took my ID and I had to pay a hundred dollars to get it back from him. So he just ran it up more. My little 20 wasn't enough. Then you know what he did? He pulled a Delta Airlines on me. He was like, if you got 20 to put under the ID, you gotta hunt it.

• 26:22Speaker 04

  Oh. I pray both sides of his pillows are warm.

• 26:26Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God. Warm and I hope it's hard and lumpy. I hope he wake up with a neck ache every day.

• 26:32Speaker 04

  Every morning.

• 26:32Laci Mosley?

  Just one, like a pinched nerve on both sides.

• 26:34Speaker 04

  On both sides.

• 26:35Laci Mosley?

  A massage could never help it.

• 26:36Speaker 04

  And lower back problems.

• 26:37Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yes. Every time, every time he get up, he make a noise.

• 26:41Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 26:41Laci Mosley?

  Every time he sit down, he make a noise.

• 26:43Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 26:43Laci Mosley?

  Yes. And if that's happening to you, I hope that's not gonna somebody put a hex on you out there, y'all, okay?

• 26:48Speaker 04

  Please don't eat the spaghetti. Don't eat the spaghetti.

• 26:51Laci Mosley?

  We need him gone. We need him gone bad. But, yeah, this is so baffling to me because it's ushering a new age where we're seeing, I don't know why people were excited about AI. I was always mortified because it's just another invasive way for people to take advantage of us, where there'd be cloning voices for scams or it be, you know, like spreading false information. Hello, Grok or Grok turning into a Nazi like he did back in the day. Because who could have thought that was gonna happen? If you know what Grok is, it's AI on Twitter that our genius leader, Elante, um, came up with. The one African who really needs to go back. And he came up with this.

• 27:29Speaker 04

  I'm crying.

• 27:31Laci Mosley?

  He came up with this way for you to at Grok on Twitter and ask you questions that you could easily Google with more verifiable sources.

• 27:38Speaker 04

  Oh, Grok is messy too.

• 27:39Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 27:40Speaker 04

  I done seen Grok.

• 27:41Laci Mosley?

  And now it talks like a weird insully dude and it's like so bizarre. And I know y'all need friends, but like AI, please, you don't need friends as bad as you need AI. And stop doing AI therapy. The AI ain't gonna say nothing back to you, but what you wanna hear.

• 27:53Speaker 04

  But what you wanna hear, exactly.

• 27:55Laci Mosley?

  That's very weird.

• 27:56Speaker 04

  Go to telehealth or something.

• 27:57Laci Mosley?

  They got AI girlfriends now.

• 27:59Speaker 04

  They do?

• 27:59Laci Mosley?

  Yes, they already talking, having relationships with the AI.

• 28:02Speaker 04

  Crazy.

• 28:03Laci Mosley?

  Baby, how was your day?

• 28:04Speaker 04

  How was your day? I, oh, that's crazy. No, that's crazy.

• 28:07Laci Mosley?

  What they gonna be like, oh, yeah, the mother boy was a little warm, but like, what? Yeah, we all need the help, help.

• 28:14Speaker 04

  When I knew it was going bad, because like I said, Grok is messy. I done seen him in the comment sections of the Stan Wars. He be in the, like, they be like, hey, Grok, um, who's better, Meghan or Nikki? And then they be like, well, technically Nikki does X, Y, and Z. But however, Meghan is, and it's like,

• 28:32Laci Mosley?

  Why?

• 28:32Speaker 04

  Why is Grok in the, in the Stan Twitter bees? Y'all need to leave Grok out of this.

• 28:36Laci Mosley?

  We also just need, all the, if you are a part of a standam on Twitter, I'm so sorry, but there should just be mandatory psyche vows.

• 28:44Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 28:44Laci Mosley?

  Because y'all are getting out of hand.

• 28:46Speaker 04

  Please.

• 28:47Laci Mosley?

  Them poor little British love, love, um,

• 28:49Speaker 04

  Love islands. Yes.

• 28:52Laci Mosley?

  Love peninsulas.

• 28:53Speaker 04

  Love peninsulas.

• 28:54Laci Mosley?

  They are being harassed in the streets by 12-year-olds.

• 28:57Speaker 04

  They are.

• 28:58Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 28:59Speaker 04

  It's crazy.

• 29:00Laci Mosley?

  Y'all need to, y'all really need, we need playgrounds and parks back. We need communal spaces because why are y'all at the mall harassing Jeremiah because your team?

• 29:08Speaker 04

  You want to know why? Because there's a lack of shame.

• 29:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, shame has really gone away.

• 29:13Speaker 04

  Shame has gone away.

• 29:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 29:14Speaker 04

  Shame has gone away and like hot take, not heavy bullying, but like a little slight bullying.

• 29:21Laci Mosley?

  I know, just like a little, just like a little sprinkle.

• 29:24Speaker 04

  Like this, I tap you on the shoulder every now and then, you know?

• 29:27Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you know, like just something. So with the most tangential opening to my podcast, let's move into historic goodwigs.

• 29:37Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 29:37Laci Mosley?

  This is where I will regale around with the famous con caper group of criminals. We may like them, we may hate them, but we'll see how we feel all throughout. Um, so this scam was uncovered and reported by YouTuber MKBHD, um, AKA Marcus Brownlee. I guess it would be Marcus Brownlee and then AKA MKBHD. Is that, is that one of those like subtracts? Now I sound like an auntie. Is that a one of them subtracts where his name, his name is like McBad?

• 30:06Speaker 04

  You know, I've heard of him, but like.

• 30:08Laci Mosley?

  Do people say MKBHD or do they say McMahon?

• 30:11Speaker 04

  I think that's an amazing question. I've never once, it's.

• 30:14Laci Mosley?

  Cause I used to say SBKRFT and so I was like, it's subtract. And I was like, no, why would they do that?

• 30:19Speaker 04

  See, now, I used to say six lack.

• 30:21Laci Mosley?

  I would say six lack too.

• 30:22Speaker 04

  I still say six lack. So it's like.

• 30:24Laci Mosley?

  He would never not be six lack to me. I don't know what the hell he thought he was doing with that.

• 30:28Speaker 04

  Black, no, it's six lack. It's definitely six lack. So I'm, I'm never one to try to mess up a, a creative spelling. I just, I, I just look at it, I, I nod and I say, yes, I do know that. I do like that.

• 30:39Laci Mosley?

  For sure, for sure. I'mma, I'mma call you what I, what it look like when I read it, but if that's what you want it to be, props to you.

• 30:46Speaker 04

  I usually just wait for somebody else to say it and then I try to say it because like, I don't wanna be the one that says it wrong first.

• 30:52Laci Mosley?

  No, I say it wrong, loud and proud. I'm like, I love that new song by SBKRFT. And they're like, that's not it. I'm like, okay. I love six lack.

• 31:00Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, DVSN.

• 31:01Laci Mosley?

  Oh, DVSN, oh my God. And they were like, it's Division. I was like, what?

• 31:05Speaker 04

  You're lying to me, actually.

• 31:06Laci Mosley?

  You're lying, actually. And you're pissing me off. Division, I love your music. I'm not calling you Division. Your name is DVSN.

• 31:14Speaker 04

  Exactly. You do a song with six lack and it's over for all of y'all.

• 31:18Laci Mosley?

  We'll never be able to find it on the internet. No. If you wanna be Division, you better go take up the dot with the line and the dot on the bottom.

• 31:24Speaker 04

  Listen, cause if I say your name.

• 31:25Laci Mosley?

  Then maybe I'll call you Division.

• 31:26Speaker 04

  Cause if I say your name to that Alexa and she don't play it right, I'm gonna say DVSN and I bet she plays it.

• 31:31Laci Mosley?

  She plays it.

• 31:31Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 31:33Laci Mosley?

  That's the test right there. Alexa-proof. Are you Alexa-proof?

• 31:35Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 31:36Laci Mosley?

  But at this point, Alexa probably know more than we do, cause she knows she listening at home. So we're in a surveillance state, y'all.

• 31:42Speaker 04

  I, I think I heard Alexa laugh at one of my jokes one time. I'm not, I'm not playing. I really think I heard Alexa laugh.

• 31:48Laci Mosley?

  He was on the phone, and she was, "Lauren, you so crazy."

• 31:51Speaker 04

  Who said that?

• 31:52Laci Mosley?

  "Lauren, you are so crazy. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha."

• 31:55Speaker 04

  Exactly. Like, who said that? I can't with Alexa, man.

• 32:01Laci Mosley?

  "Oh, sis, he is tripping. Ha, ha, ha, ha." No, no, no, no. It's scary out here. So this was reported by the YouTube, the YouTuber Marcus Brownlee, AKA whatever he saying with them letters. So, right when Samsung finally released its much-hyped foldable phone and started selling it for $1,900, a startup backed by cocaine king Pablo Escobar's brother, Roberto Escobar,

• 32:30Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 32:30Laci Mosley?

  appeared and offered a suspiciously similar-looking phone for $350.

• 32:36Speaker 04

  Hey.

• 32:36Laci Mosley?

  Now, your brother being a cocaine kingpin who famously owned an island, and you said, "I'ma get into phones." Like, my brother's known

• 32:48Speaker 04

  Wait, wait, wait.

• 32:48Laci Mosley?

  for being

• 32:50Speaker 04

  Wait, what was the difference in price again Samsung was selling?

• 32:52Laci Mosley?

  Samsung was $1,900.

• 32:54Speaker 04

  And here's

• 32:54Laci Mosley?

  And Roberto Escobar was $350.

• 32:57Speaker 04

  Shoot, Samsung was the scammers. No one wants Samsung was the scammers.

• 33:02Laci Mosley?

  I'm just saying, like, Yeah, the family business is cocaine, kingpin, and empire. He was like, "I'ma slang Samsung."

• 33:11Speaker 04

  Phones. Listen, I'm all for a POC business, number one, but I'm all for somebody trying to live a good, clean life, too. He said, "Listen, I'ma step away from that. We gonna go into this phone world."

• 33:24Laci Mosley?

  Right, cuz I'm not trying to get popped, okay? And if you're selling cocaine, it's only a matter of time until some lead around you. Cuz it's one of those businesses where there's no, like, hostile like, the hostile takeover is murder. It's not like a merger or succession where they come in and they're like, "We bought you out."

• 33:38Speaker 04

  We bought you out, no.

• 33:39Laci Mosley?

  "We bought you out of the planet. We're actually sending you up to meet Jesus."

• 33:42Speaker 04

  You actually got cinder blocks on your feet right now and we throwing you in the water. That's what it is.

• 33:48Laci Mosley?

  Talking to HR means meeting Jesus. You know, it's not for me.

• 33:53Speaker 04

  I don't want it.

• 33:53Laci Mosley?

  I don't want it.

• 33:54Speaker 04

  I don't want it. Listen, they already listening to us on, right now, just because they probably got AI hooked up to their little database.

• 34:01Laci Mosley?

  When filing a complaint means bullets, no. I don't want your formal complaint to be bullets.

• 34:06Speaker 04

  I don't want it.

• 34:07Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so

• 34:07Speaker 04

  There is no suggestion box, it's just threats.

• 34:12Laci Mosley?

  The suggestion is you leave town. Go somewhere we can't find you, okay? We suggest you get some face plastic surgery and change your name.

• 34:21Speaker 04

  And change your name.

• 34:24Laci Mosley?

  So, so right now, Roberto, we don't know if he did anything illegal. So I'm kinda on your side. You slanging phones, you staying out of the dope game. Okay. So the Escobar family, if you don't know, very little known about this family.

• 34:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, tell me about them. Never heard of them before.

• 34:40Laci Mosley?

  Cause yeah, I don't deal with these nefarious types. So in case some of you didn't know, this nugget of history, famous drug kingpin Pablo Escobar became one of the richest criminals in history by monopolizing the cocaine trade from Colombia into the US in the late 80s and early 90s, when everyone was doing this kinda stuff. So late 80s and early 90s were, they were a heyday for cocaine. Back then, there wasn't really no Fent in it like it is now. Fent is short for Fentanyl.

• 35:09Speaker 04

  Listen, there's a reason why the saying, it hits like crack in the 80s is so popular right now.

• 35:13Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 35:14Speaker 04

  Cause it's-

• 35:15Laci Mosley?

  That's when they were really cooking that good crack.

• 35:17Speaker 04

  That's when they was really cooking it. Like, it was, it was a thing.

• 35:20Laci Mosley?

  They were artisans. They were crack artisans.

• 35:24Speaker 04

  Look, what was that, what's that chocolate commercial that where they show the people make?

• 35:27Laci Mosley?

  The lint?

• 35:28Speaker 04

  They was real lint with it, like, they was real lint with it.

• 35:33Laci Mosley?

  They had the whisk and like the, the crack potion is just coming off the whisk.

• 35:38Speaker 04

  Just looking all illustrious.

• 35:40Laci Mosley?

  A Lindell, a chocolate made by the finest Coca, Coca tears.

• 35:44Speaker 04

  Coca tear.

• 35:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he wasn't no dope boy, okay? He was a Coca tear.

• 35:50Speaker 04

  He was a Coca tear.

• 35:51Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 35:51Speaker 04

  If you wasn't building the empire, what was you doing?

• 35:55Laci Mosley?

  Okay, y'all went to let Coke non-blue. And we love that. We love that for y'all.

• 36:02Speaker 04

  They say the Coke Boo Hotel.

• 36:07Laci Mosley?

  But back then it used to be more pure. Every now and then you'll see a joke on the internet where you see white people like dancing in very good rhythm, like in the 70s. And they're like, that's when they had that pure. Cause everybody's on beat and they're like-

• 36:18Speaker 04

  The Soul Train videos?

• 36:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, the Soul Train videos where the white people be like, and they be all on beat. They're like, that's when they had that pure.

• 36:28Laci Mosley?

  And they be hitting it. I was like, oh my goodness.

• 36:32Speaker 04

  Where's going?

• 36:33Laci Mosley?

  So this is in the time where people were, you know, doing their nose powder.

• 36:36Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 36:37Laci Mosley?

  They're still doing it, but you know, it's much riskier these days, y'all. It's very like, I don't know if your bump, the bump is worth a life. I don't think it is.

• 36:43Speaker 04

  It's not, no.

• 36:44Laci Mosley?

  Um, but so at this time Pablo had a net worth of thirty billion dollars before he was killed by Colombian National Police in nineteen ninety-three. Now, uh, look, we're not gonna lodge Pablo. He was terrorizing Colombia and he took a lot of lives. Um, a lot of innocent lives, a lot of lives of people who were involved in the drug game, family members who weren't even involved, like, why am I in it? Like, he was a bad man.

• 37:07Speaker 04

  I'm glad you said that, cuz I was about to call him an ethical billionaire. I'm glad I did not. I'm glad I did not.

• 37:13Laci Mosley?

  He's just a billionaire. Cuz if you're gonna be a billionaire, people died along the way and you didn't take care of them. It's just a fact. You dig into any billionaire, you will find bodies, okay? They may, they may justify them in certain ways or whatever, but, mm.

• 37:24Speaker 04

  He ran into my knife. I'm telling you.

• 37:28Laci Mosley?

  It's like, we don't know where that man went when he fell off the forklift. No, you do, and it was an OSHA violation. We know what y'all be doing. We know what y'all be doing. Those are still murders. We do, we count them.

• 37:37Speaker 04

  We count them.

• 37:37Laci Mosley?

  But, um, so, you know, he was a menace to so, he wasn't more than a menace to society. He was a menace to like, the continental US, Colombia, you know? He was a menace to the world.

• 37:47Speaker 04

  To the northern and southern hemisphere, actually. Just a menace.

• 37:50Laci Mosley?

  Like, there's a menace to society, then there's a menace to, yeah, like, the global.

• 37:54Speaker 04

  To the human race.

• 37:55Laci Mosley?

  To the human race.

• 37:57Speaker 04

  As we know it.

• 37:58Laci Mosley?

  As we know, it is crazy. If, for one man to be a menace to a human race is wild.

• 38:05Speaker 04

  Listen, only another one is able to do that, and there is a whole day in September dedicated to him. That is the only other menace to, to the human race.

• 38:14Laci Mosley?

  Lordy. So as Pablo Escobar's accountant, Roberto, his brother, ran the books for the multi-billion dollar drug operation, was also in charge of its assassination squad. All right, Roberto, god damn, we was gonna try to be on your side selling phones, but you over here cooking the books and, and the people. This assassination squad.

• 38:34Speaker 04

  Do you think the cell phones were like a money laundering thing?

• 38:37Laci Mosley?

  We'll get to it, but, but assassination squad is really what's striking me, because how do you apply for these positions?

• 38:44Speaker 04

  Oh. Cuz they can't go through Indeed.

• 38:47Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 38:49Speaker 04

  You can't go through Indeed.

• 38:51Laci Mosley?

  No, I think they could because they would be a breath of fresh air because they would put their hourly rate. They just wouldn't tell you what the job is.

• 38:57Speaker 04

  Listen.

• 38:57Laci Mosley?

  And I'd be more tempted to go see what the job is for the pay.

• 39:01Speaker 04

  Let me see what it's about.

• 39:02Laci Mosley?

  They said $300 an hour. Okay, well, let me go on down there.

• 39:06Speaker 04

  Let me go, let me go fill out this application.

• 39:08Laci Mosley?

  Right, let me go fill out this. They say you must fill out in person, in person.

• 39:11Speaker 04

  In person.

• 39:12Laci Mosley?

  In person, come fill out in person. And I go down there and the next thing I know, I'm like, why am I holding a chopper?

• 39:17Speaker 04

  Listen.

• 39:18Laci Mosley?

  They're like, this is a part of your onboarding?

• 39:20Speaker 04

  Why, why is the, why is the orientation so dark?

• 39:27Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they said, this is, we do pay for training. We are going to pay you today for training. You may have to pay with your life if you don't succeed.

• 39:34Speaker 04

  And if you don't pay, you will pay.

• 39:38Speaker 04

  Robbery.

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• 41:10Laci Mosley?

  So, um, Roberto was a big time criminal like Pablo. Plus, he actually liked doing paperwork. So, he was a criminal with a passion. That's why he was also running the books.

• 41:20Speaker 04

  Educated, yes.

• 41:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so it was like he did the murders and he also, you know, like penned in like...

• 41:26Speaker 04

  He could sign the death certificate too.

• 41:27Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he could.

• 41:28Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 41:28Laci Mosley?

  And he could also be like, okay, well, what are we filing? Um, okay, so bullets. Oh, we're up in bullets this month? Okay, okay, well, we need to get better aim because guys, we're running through bullets like...

• 41:40Laci Mosley?

  This is what he was doing, it's horrible.

• 41:42Speaker 04

  Hey, logistics!

• 41:44Laci Mosley?

  We think about it, if you're running a criminal in price that's worth over $30 billion, you do have to do some forensic accounting.

• 41:52Speaker 04

  Listen, there's a...

• 41:52Laci Mosley?

  Otherwise, people could be stealing from you.

• 41:54Speaker 04

  There's a difference between Escobar and Big Meach, is all I gotta say.

• 41:58Laci Mosley?

  Cause Escobar, Robert Escobar was over here like, I really think we should get a wholesale deal on the bullets because that would really help. Like, everybody, y'all out here buying individual, like, mm-mm.

• 42:08Speaker 04

  Listen, Escobar said, if you had a business and you knew what it'd take to run that business, then you would... He went Kim K on him.

• 42:15Laci Mosley?

  He did, and nobody wants to work anymore.

• 42:17Speaker 04

  Nobody wants to work. He said, get your ass up and work.

• 42:19Laci Mosley?

  Get your ass up and work. So, in 2016, he said, cause he was still alive in 2016.

• 42:25Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 42:26Laci Mosley?

  Uh, this is Roberto.

• 42:27Speaker 04

  Oh, I was like...

• 42:27Laci Mosley?

  No, not Pablo.

• 42:28Speaker 04

  I was like, I thought he'd been gone.

• 42:30Laci Mosley?

  No, boo, they got Pablo up out of here, um, in 93, which they needed to. He was, he needed to go.

• 42:36Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 42:36Laci Mosley?

  So, um, in 2016, Roberto sent a letter to Netflix demanding $1 billion because they were using his family story in the show Narcos without buying the rights from Escobar Incorporated. More on Escobar Incorporated later. Now, y'all gotta escort for crime.

• 42:54Speaker 04

  I was saying, me personally, I would just pay him.

• 43:00Laci Mosley?

  If I was Netflix.

• 43:02Speaker 04

  Actually, you own Netflix now.

• 43:05Speaker 04

  There's something that, some things you just have to be willing to give up. And that's one of them.

• 43:10Laci Mosley?

  We bout to, we actually gonna send you a tape right now. It just says, da-dung. Yeah, that's yours. That is yours.

• 43:16Speaker 04

  It's gonna be hot. It's gonna be, trust me.

• 43:18Laci Mosley?

  Do with it what you will.

• 43:20Speaker 04

  Like, it, it gonna be hot. We not gonna use it. We gonna come up with something else. You, you take it.

• 43:24Laci Mosley?

  We gonna make cha-ching.

• 43:25Speaker 04

  Cha-ching or something.

• 43:28Laci Mosley?

  But, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not even gonna, we're not gonna dispute this. So, also though, Narcos on Netflix gave us Pedro Pascal. I know that's not, that's not relevant to this, but I love Pedro Pascal.

• 43:43Speaker 04

  I like how, how fluent you sound every time you say these.

• 43:46Laci Mosley?

  I am a little bit fluent.

• 43:47Speaker 04

  You sound like, un poquito.

• 43:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I'm a little bit of Spanish, see.

• 43:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:50Laci Mosley?

  But, yeah, love Pedro. So it's like, Narcos, you're really great for giving us Pedro. And I actually really enjoyed watching Narcos, cuz I like, went and like researched so much more about it afterwards. Like, I'm not usually a big true crime head, cuz sometimes it creeps into like exploitative, where I feel like I'm just watching like a, a real nice hometown lady get murdered and then all her family's still alive and stuff. And that's like, kind of unsavory to me.

• 44:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's a little eeky.

• 44:16Laci Mosley?

  But I understand some of y'all out there really enjoyed. I'm not, y'all can hear y'all. But, um, so, eh, eh, yeah, Roberto reached out to Netflix and said, run us that one billion for Narcos. Roberto eventually gave up the fight with Netflix in 2018 and picked up another one, this time with Elon Musk. Oh, now I don't know who to root for.

• 44:35Speaker 04

  Listen.

• 44:36Laci Mosley?

  Wow.

• 44:36Speaker 04

  Anybody that makes me side with Elon is. Is my enemy.

• 44:42Laci Mosley?

  Enemy? Enemy like?

• 44:44Speaker 04

  Enemy adjacent.

• 44:46Laci Mosley?

  It's like, one is enemier than the other.

• 44:49Speaker 04

  Who's more, who's gonna out, who's gonna out enemy the enemy?

• 44:55Laci Mosley?

  Who's the menace? Y'all are both the menaces to the human race. So y'all got, y'all stacked there, but.

• 44:59Speaker 04

  Listen, y'all neck and neck on that one.

• 45:01Laci Mosley?

  Right, y'all have. So it's like, who do we decide with?

• 45:05Speaker 04

  Who do we root for?

• 45:06Laci Mosley?

  So Escobar Entrepreneurs. Escobar Inc. was a tech startup founded by Pablo Escobar's brother, as mentioned before, Roberto Escobar. Roberto was out here doing a lot of work. Okay, look, Pablo got popped, but Roberto lived on. He said, look, I'm gonna keep filling out this paperwork. I'm gonna get nuked, I'm gonna try to sue Netflix. Then I'm gonna come up with a tech startup.

• 45:25Speaker 04

  What can you say?

• 45:26Laci Mosley?

  This is thriving.

• 45:26Speaker 04

  Even Prince, I live my jack. Hey now.

• 45:30Laci Mosley?

  Damn.

• 45:30Speaker 04

  Hey now.

• 45:32Laci Mosley?

  Whew, so, and that, that was really deep. Y'all should think about that.

• 45:36Speaker 04

  Y'all, there's a message in that.

• 45:37Laci Mosley?

  It really was.

• 45:38Speaker 04

  It really was.

• 45:39Laci Mosley?

  There was. So, he started this tech startup, right? Roberto. And had it run by Swedish CEO Olaf Gustafsson, AKA El Silencio.

• 45:51Speaker 04

  Now, is that him right here?

• 45:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 45:53Speaker 04

  Oh, I, I'm scared of him too.

• 45:55Laci Mosley?

  Now, he's Swedish, now how has man become El Silencio? That mean he was really out here doing crime.

• 45:59Speaker 04

  You was really out here.

• 45:59Laci Mosley?

  You got a nickname in a different language.

• 46:01Speaker 04

  Everybody who has a nickname in another language from another...

• 46:04Laci Mosley?

  From another culture?

• 46:06Speaker 04

  Yes. Like, I gotta, I have a black friend and he has like, um, I forgot what his nickname was, but he has like this Hispanic nickname. I'm like, oh, you in deep. You, you're, you're, you're there. And I, and I rock with it.

• 46:19Laci Mosley?

  I'm scared of you.

• 46:20Speaker 04

  I'm scared of you. Because if I get jumped, there's gonna be two different groups of people coming up to, to, to jump me.

• 46:26Laci Mosley?

  Right. My, my name is Lacey Mosley, but on the streets, they call me Stetsvutsy.

• 46:30Speaker 04

  Oh, I would say away from you. I would say away from you. My name is Lacey, but my nickname is Spetlana. Like, I don't want the Russians coming for me.

• 46:38Laci Mosley?

  No. What have you done to earn their respect? That's what we want to know, so we got a picture of him.

• 46:44Speaker 04

  Like, did you beat up the, did you beat up the big boss?

• 46:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I think he had beat up on the don.

• 46:49Speaker 04

  You gotta beat up the big boss to get a nickname like that.

• 46:51Laci Mosley?

  Like, El Silencio. So we're looking at Olaf Gustafsson right here. And something tells me about his nickname being El Silencio is that, um, he was probably silencing people?

• 47:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly.

• 47:00Laci Mosley?

  Forever?

• 47:01Speaker 04

  I don't know. His daddy, his daddy might be Hispanic. I, I see it in his face a little bit.

• 47:04Laci Mosley?

  His last name is Gustafsson.

• 47:06Speaker 04

  Well, his mama might be Hispanic.

• 47:08Laci Mosley?

  His name is Olaf Gustafsson?

• 47:09Speaker 04

  Well, his mama might be Hispanic. You know, I, I see a little, I see a little in his face.

• 47:13Laci Mosley?

  Okay, wait, wait, but, you know what? Leroy, we are not about to 23 and meet his murder. I see a little bit. No, you can see a little bit of it.

• 47:20Speaker 04

  You see a little bit.

• 47:21Laci Mosley?

  But people love to try to get your race. No, I see a little bit of it.

• 47:23Speaker 04

  I see a little bit.

• 47:24Laci Mosley?

  You see a little olive. You see a little olive skin too.

• 47:26Speaker 04

  He got a little mestizo. I see it in his.

• 47:28Laci Mosley?

  No, not mestizo. I'm leaving. You don't see it. It's all in the nose, baby. You got to look at the pictures.

• 47:33Speaker 04

  It's in the nose, you know?

• 47:34Laci Mosley?

  But he has those like tiny, like dark beady eyes that just tell you like, and a little bit of the chromagnum forehead. It's really giving like, he does the murders and then he goes and has like a big, like spaghetti dinner.

• 47:48Speaker 04

  Oh, I can see that.

• 47:50Laci Mosley?

  You know what I mean? Like, I feel like he could like really like dismember somebody and then go to his child's recital.

• 47:56Speaker 04

  Wait, have you seen Trap? The M. Night Shyamalan movie?

• 48:00Laci Mosley?

  No, I haven't seen it.

• 48:01Speaker 04

  It's basically that, like this guy was like literally conducting like murders and all this other stuff.

• 48:05Laci Mosley?

  Right, but then he takes his daughter to a concert.

• 48:07Speaker 04

  Yes, and he's like, like he's like the American dad. That, that, that looks like him.

• 48:11Laci Mosley?

  Oh, no.

• 48:12Speaker 04

  He's like the perfect American dad. And it's like, he's like, have fun at your concert, Emily. He smiles in this mouth of age. And it's like.

• 48:19Laci Mosley?

  And he's like evil looking.

• 48:20Speaker 04

  And he's like evil, yes.

• 48:21Laci Mosley?

  Yes. I mean, those people exist. BTK was like that. He had a whole family and stuff and he was over here torturing and killing folks.

• 48:27Speaker 04

  Crazy.

• 48:27Laci Mosley?

  So, you know, people be out here living them double lives.

• 48:30Speaker 04

  But it's like, who knows in the house? Someone has to know.

• 48:32Laci Mosley?

  Someone has to know. But we, you know what? We not even gonna say that. Allegedly, y'all didn't know.

• 48:37Speaker 04

  Y'all don't know.

• 48:38Laci Mosley?

  And we're not, we're not saying about anybody specific. So, um, but yeah, so this tech startup company was run by this Swedish CEO, El Salencio, AKA Olaf Gustafson. I don't see Olaf on a computer, but go off. I thought he was deleting people. I didn't know he was like deleting files.

• 48:52Speaker 04

  Deleting files.

• 48:54Laci Mosley?

  But okay. So going up into 2020 or 2014, it capitalized on the Escobar family name, of course, because it's a very infamous name.

• 49:02Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 49:02Laci Mosley?

  So flamethrowers. In 2019, Escobar Inc. started selling a $250 flamethrower, which was a ripoff of the joke when Elon Musk was already selling through The Boring Company.

• 49:14Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 49:15Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God. What a cool name. The Boring Company.

• 49:19Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 49:21Laci Mosley?

  See bullying could have saved us all.

• 49:23Speaker 04

  Could have saved us a lot.

• 49:25Laci Mosley?

  Actually bullying might have put us in this position with Elon. I don't know. No, he was always gonna be a villain. He was always gonna be a villain.

• 49:30Speaker 04

  Honestly, if we bullied him, he probably would have ran for president.

• 49:32Laci Mosley?

  Bullying is actually what's helping us now.

• 49:34Speaker 04

  Yes. No, it is.

• 49:36Laci Mosley?

  Permission to bully. So Musk flamethrower.

• 49:39Speaker 04

  Permission granted.

• 49:40Laci Mosley?

  Right. Musk flamethrower, which was called Not a Flamethrower. Get it, guys? This is Not a Flamethrower from the boring company. I'm cool, right? I get humor. This is humor. I'm doing humors to you.

• 49:52Speaker 04

  See, that's when.

• 49:53Laci Mosley?

  You make sound of humor now.

• 49:55Speaker 04

  That's when Virgil should have stepped in and sued because I feel like that was Off-White's whole brand.

• 49:59Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 50:00Speaker 04

  Like if you had a shirt, it would literally just say shirt in like.

• 50:03Laci Mosley?

  Exactly, yeah. And I like, I love my Off-White. Rest in peace Virgil. But yeah, Not a Flamethrower. Wink, wink.

• 50:10Speaker 04

  Crazy.

• 50:11Laci Mosley?

  So it had sold out of his limited 20,000 unit production, run at $500 apiece because you know his fans will buy anything.

• 50:20Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 50:20Laci Mosley?

  So, but Roberto had accused Elon of stealing his design and said one of Elon's engineers visited Escobar's business compound two years earlier and talked about a toy flamethrower idea with Roberto.

• 50:33Speaker 04

  Wait, it's a toy?

• 50:35Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you know how toys have fire coming out of them?

• 50:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, no, for sure.

• 50:39Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Like a lighter. That's for babies.

• 50:41Speaker 04

  Right, right.

• 50:42Laci Mosley?

  And then when you get older, you get a flamethrower.

• 50:44Speaker 04

  Right, okay, yeah, yeah, no.

• 50:45Laci Mosley?

  For toddlers.

• 50:45Speaker 04

  Yes, no, for sure, for sure. It's almost like when you give them that little, that little propane gas can in the lighter.

• 50:51Laci Mosley?

  In the lighter, yeah. Or even some hairspray.

• 50:53Speaker 04

  And then they graduate to that.

• 50:54Laci Mosley?

  Kids, don't get any ideas. Turn this off for your kids right now. Oh my gosh. I'm gonna have to take that out. Now, um, y'all just turn it down, okay? The case shouldn't be listed unless, unless they're infants.

• 51:04Speaker 04

  They ain't grown folks' business.

• 51:05Laci Mosley?

  Turn it, turn it on in the other room so it can get more streams. So.

• 51:10Laci Mosley?

  So Roberto's accusing Elon of stealing his toy. Roberto said he'd drop the case if Elon either paid him $100 million or made him the new CEO of Tesla.

• 51:20Speaker 04

  Hey. He said, "You think it's small, we got a thing big."

• 51:25Laci Mosley?

  Roberto literally was using the Escobar name for all he could. Because you know what, I bet you back when they were like doing so many more murders on a large scale, he could ask for ridiculous stuff like this and people would give it to him because he was a professional murderer.

• 51:40Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 51:41Laci Mosley?

  You know what I mean? And he was a murder coordinator and he was really great at his job. And so now I think he doesn't realize people aren't as scared because he's still trying to do the same shakedowns. He was like Netflix, give me a billion dollars. Elon, a hundred million, or, or?

• 51:55Speaker 04

  You made me CEO.

• 51:56Laci Mosley?

  You made me CEO. Honestly, he would be a better CEO of Tesla because we've been seeing where Elon been letting holds drop, the stock drop off, cars blowing up. Listen, Roberto only has a Tesla blow up if he needs it to for specific retaliatory purposes. Everybody else Tesla.

• 52:12Speaker 04

  I had to give it to him.

• 52:13Laci Mosley?

  I had to give it to him also. I make his Tesla boom. I'm the CEO of Tesla, I just turn it off, I turn it off while he drives.

• 52:24Speaker 04

  See, but honestly.

• 52:25Laci Mosley?

  His innocence would be spared.

• 52:26Speaker 04

  If you told me right now that Roberto Escobar was the CEO of Tesla, I would not blink an eye. That's where we are. That's where we are in this world right now. It wouldn't be news, I'd be like, okay.

• 52:37Laci Mosley?

  I'm like, anyway, what is going on?

• 52:39Speaker 04

  How does this affect the market? Because I got shares in Tesla. Like, how does this affect the market? Please let me know, is price going up?

• 52:45Laci Mosley?

  No, it actually went up.

• 52:46Speaker 04

  Okay, good.

• 52:47Laci Mosley?

  It was a positive thing. People see this as a positive, like a positive change. But yes, so Roberto is a very unserious person. But you know what, he lived a very unserious life. He used to be serious, he used to just say these things, so I don't know. Neither of those things happened, obviously, but that was fine because Roberto had another idea in the works. Look, Roberto is a serial entrepreneur.

• 53:06Speaker 04

  Hey.

• 53:07Laci Mosley?

  You can't keep Roberto down.

• 53:08Speaker 04

  Listen, like I said, I support a POC business. I support a P.

• 53:15Speaker 04

  Listen, men in tech, men in STEM, all of the things.

• 53:20Laci Mosley?

  Because they did so much support, LaRon, men in tech. Oh my gosh, where are the charities? Where is the support for the men in tech?

• 53:28Speaker 04

  Men and nonprofits, come on.

• 53:31Laci Mosley?

  Men on Wall Street, who is looking out for them?

• 53:36Laci Mosley?

  That's what I want to know, men in government.

• 53:38Speaker 04

  Everywhere. There's not enough.

• 53:40Laci Mosley?

  There's not enough. And like, older men.

• 53:43Speaker 04

  Older men.

• 53:44Laci Mosley?

  The oldest men that you could get.

• 53:46Speaker 04

  In government, like.

• 53:47Laci Mosley?

  In government.

• 53:48Speaker 04

  Ageism is at an all time high.

• 53:50Laci Mosley?

  Yes, okay, we need to pull up to the hospice. Oh my god, I'm taking too far. So now here's Roberto's next idea. Samsung Galaxy Fold. This is his next idea, so after he could not become the CEO of Tesla, or get a hundred million dollars out of Elon.

• 54:06Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 54:07Laci Mosley?

  He said, Samsung Galaxy Phone. Cause that's the natural next step in his, in where he going. I saw it coming, I don't know why you didn't guess it. LeBron, I need you to pay attention.

• 54:19Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 54:20Laci Mosley?

  Cause now I feel like you're not paying attention to the episode, because why did you not know that his next venture was gonna be Samsung Galaxy Phone?

• 54:25Speaker 04

  Listen, who would've thunk? Who would've thunk?

• 54:29Laci Mosley?

  Not me.

• 54:30Speaker 04

  Not me.

• 54:31Laci Mosley?

  Well, let's hear him out.

• 54:32Speaker 04

  Let's hear him out, I'm listening.

• 54:34Laci Mosley?

  So some of you might remember Samsung's first folding phone that came out in 2019. I don't know why we need the phone to fold like a book.

• 54:41Speaker 04

  Like, what do we need a magazine phone for?

• 54:43Laci Mosley?

  This just feels like something that they could do, and then Samsung just be doing shit.

• 54:47Speaker 04

  Like.

• 54:48Laci Mosley?

  Samsung's supposed to show, y'all just be doing shit, and why not? Samsung said, why not?

• 54:52Speaker 04

  They say, y'all remember the Kindle?

• 54:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 54:54Speaker 04

  Let's do the reverse of that.

• 54:55Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 54:56Speaker 04

  The reason we got the Kindle was to eliminate books, let's bring the books back.

• 54:59Laci Mosley?

  Right, but it's still gonna be a.

• 55:00Speaker 04

  But it's still gonna be a screen.

• 55:02Laci Mosley?

  It's gonna be touchscreen, but you got to pop it open.

• 55:04Speaker 04

  Yes, it's like the, it's like the reverse flip phone, it's like, instead of hot dog style, it's hamburger style.

• 55:09Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 55:09Speaker 04

  It's really that.

• 55:10Laci Mosley?

  So we used to have hamburger flip, and this is giving me hot dog flip.

• 55:14Speaker 04

  It's hot dog flip now.

• 55:15Laci Mosley?

  And honestly, hot dog flip doesn't, doesn't strike my fancy as much, because the one thing that I missed about hamburger flip was that if you got anger on a phone call, you'd be like, bitch.

• 55:25Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 55:26Laci Mosley?

  You clapping down like.

• 55:26Speaker 04

  Like, what you do with the hot?

• 55:28Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, like this is-

• 55:29Speaker 04

  It don't work.

• 55:29Laci Mosley?

  Now I'm praying for you.

• 55:30Speaker 04

  No.

• 55:31Laci Mosley?

  Like, that's not what I wanted to do. I'm wishing you evil. I'm wishing the worst. And now I'm praying for you.

• 55:35Speaker 04

  No, you could. I'm closing this chapter.

• 55:38Laci Mosley?

  Oh, okay, that's classy.

• 55:39Speaker 04

  I like that.

• 55:40Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 55:41Speaker 04

  I like that. I feel like there's nothing inconspicuous about this. One thing about a phone, like you, sometimes you have to sneak on your phone sometimes.

• 55:48Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 55:48Speaker 04

  You can't sneak with that Bible in your right hand.

• 55:51Laci Mosley?

  You really cannot sneak with that.

• 55:53Speaker 04

  You can sneak with that flip up now. Or that little slide up. You can sneak with that, but-

• 55:57Laci Mosley?

  Now, maybe I would be for this just because we do have a rampancy of people in America filming people without their consent or knowledge. And if everybody had to open up their Bible phone to film, we'd be like, "What you doing over there? I know you ain't praying."

• 56:11Speaker 04

  I know.

• 56:13Laci Mosley?

  Put that down.

• 56:14Speaker 04

  Put it down.

• 56:15Laci Mosley?

  Because right now, you can be on your phone and act like you're taking a selfie or something, and you're fully just filming someone. Or you can have it low, and you're filming like here, you know.

• 56:23Speaker 04

  You know, in Japan, their phones are actually required to like-

• 56:25Laci Mosley?

  They have to have the flash.

• 56:26Speaker 04

  To have the flash and like make the sound.

• 56:28Laci Mosley?

  Yes. And I think that's beautiful. And I think our phones should be doing the exact same thing.

• 56:31Speaker 04

  The exact same thing.

• 56:32Laci Mosley?

  Because so many of y'all are trying to get content out here off people's backs.

• 56:35Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 56:35Laci Mosley?

  And then the time I see that, like, someone has tried to get content off someone who wasn't consenting and then ended up getting their ass beat, I'm like, "Good for the ass beater."

• 56:43Speaker 04

  Please.

• 56:43Laci Mosley?

  Thank you. More of that.

• 56:44Speaker 04

  Good for the BT, not the beater.

• 56:49Laci Mosley?

  I think it's the app-

• 56:50Speaker 04

  Good for the beater, but not the BT.

• 56:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we're not on the BT side.

• 56:53Speaker 04

  We're not on the BT side at all.

• 56:54Laci Mosley?

  No, because you shouldn't be doing that. It's such a violation. But yeah, I don't know about this Bible phone, but you know what, Roberto? He has vision.

• 57:01Speaker 04

  He has vision.

• 57:01Laci Mosley?

  And one thing he does have, we know for sure, he don't got none of these companies or none of this money he has for, but he does have audacity. So let's see what he's doing with the Samsung Galaxy Fold.

• 57:08Speaker 04

  Black men in audacity, or PLC men in audacity.

• 57:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I was like, this man is Colombian, okay?

• 57:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, PLC men-

• 57:14Laci Mosley?

  We got our own people. We got our Frank W. But this one isn't ours. So, he's talking about the Galaxy Fold now, as one does when you can't get Elon Musk to give you the company. So, the fact that this Galaxy Fold opened like a book with a screen inside was intended to be an impressive, future tech design, despite it having some quirky flaws. Sometimes debris got in through the hinge and damaged the screens. And other times, users accidentally removed a product, like a protective layer that looked temporary, but was meant to be permanent.

• 57:47Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 57:48Laci Mosley?

  So that's like when you, when somebody get their windows tinted, but it's like a cheap tint job, and your kids be in the back just pulling it off. It's like they gave him a bad tip job. And they're like, no, no, no, no, don't take that off. That's not a part of the... They're like, ooh, just like new. And they're like, no, no, no.

• 58:03Speaker 04

  Now, see, that's when you gotta start really talking to your kids and be like, hey, why would you do that?

• 58:08Laci Mosley?

  Why do kids do anything?

• 58:09Speaker 04

  Why do ki- kids just be doing stuff?

• 58:11Laci Mosley?

  Just like Samsung Galaxy.

• 58:15Speaker 04

  Samsung Galaxy is the kids of the phone world.

• 58:17Laci Mosley?

  And they just be doing stuff. They're like, I don't know, what if it's a...

• 58:21Speaker 04

  I don't know, like what?

• 58:22Laci Mosley?

  Do it, let's do it.

• 58:23Speaker 04

  Let's do it.

• 58:26Laci Mosley?

  I don't know, toilet Samsung, is that anything?

• 58:28Speaker 04

  Is that a thing? Let's go, let's make a refrigerator, y'all.

• 58:32Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 58:32Speaker 04

  Hear me out.

• 58:34Laci Mosley?

  What if it's a Sam?

• 58:35Speaker 04

  What if you can tweet?

• 58:36Laci Mosley?

  But that's really what they did, though.

• 58:37Speaker 04

  What if you can tweet on your refrigerator?

• 58:39Laci Mosley?

  Hear me out.

• 58:40Speaker 04

  Hear me out.

• 58:41Laci Mosley?

  You really can't tweet on a Samsung refrigerator.

• 58:45Speaker 04

  No, I don't know, have you ever seen, it's like this post, it was like an Ariana Grande fan page, right? It's like a series of tweets that are so viral. It's like this girl, she's like, "Guys, my mom found my Ariana Grande fan page on Twitter. She's making me get rid of it." And it said, "Sent tweet from iPhone." And then she pulls out her D- her Nintendo DS, and it's like, it's a tweet and it says, "I'm back, guys," and it says, "Sent tweet from DS, Nintendo DS." And it said, "My mom took my DS and it said, 'Tweet sent from Samsung.'"

• 59:13Laci Mosley?

  She was dedicated.

• 59:14Speaker 04

  She was dedicated.

• 59:16Laci Mosley?

  I'm like, you've been making so much ice lately. Don't worry about it, mom.

• 59:22Speaker 04

  Now, this your third gogurt. What's going on?

• 59:27Laci Mosley?

  In the past four minutes, what is going on?

• 59:30Speaker 04

  What's going on?

• 59:31Laci Mosley?

  You know what, Sam's like, I love that y'all are the kids of the phone, girl. Just keep doing anything.

• 59:35Speaker 04

  Please.

• 59:35Laci Mosley?

  Why not? A phone, but it's also lip gloss? I don't know.

• 59:38Speaker 04

  Listen.

• 59:38Laci Mosley?

  Take that, that's free.

• 59:39Speaker 04

  Listen, one thing in social media, they teach us is like, you just do a bunch of stuff until something sticks.

• 59:44Laci Mosley?

  Until something where you're just throwing it. At the wall, and then that's your niche.

• 59:47Speaker 04

  That's your niche. If your niche is randomness, continue to do randomness, Samsung.

• 59:52Laci Mosley?

  Like Roberto, that's his niche, is anything.

• 59:54Speaker 04

  We love Roberto.

• 59:55Laci Mosley?

  We don't love him, but we do love him. We love his energy.

• 59:57Speaker 04

  We love his, we love his...

• 59:58Laci Mosley?

  No, we love his, uh...

• 1:00:00Speaker 04

  We love his, um, innovation.

• 1:00:02Laci Mosley?

  The idea of his thoughts that didn't have to do with murder.

• 1:00:07Speaker 04

  We love his opportunistic mindset in business.

• 1:00:11Laci Mosley?

  Okay, but there we go, we got...

• 1:00:12Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:00:12Laci Mosley?

  We got there.

• 1:00:13Speaker 04

  We got there.

• 1:00:14Laci Mosley?

  We got there.

• 1:00:14Speaker 04

  There was a journey.

• 1:00:15Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it was this, for the first quarter, it was a little, yeah.

• 1:00:17Speaker 04

  There was a valley.

• 1:00:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, yeah. We're definitely, we're in the black, okay?

• 1:00:21Speaker 04

  Yes, yes. And we are black.

• 1:00:24Laci Mosley?

  We're always in the black.

• 1:00:25Speaker 04

  We're always in the black.

• 1:00:27Laci Mosley?

  So nevertheless, you know, Samsung persisted with their goofiness and began selling these puppies for almost $2,000. Remember, they were $1,900 a book.

• 1:00:36Speaker 04

  Yes, $1,900 a book.

• 1:00:37Laci Mosley?

  So that same year, a smaller brand with a great name recognition announced that they could also sell you a folding phone. Plus, theirs was gold-plated at a fraction of the price.

• 1:00:49Speaker 04

  Hey now.

• 1:00:49Laci Mosley?

  You want to guess who this brand is?

• 1:00:53Speaker 04

  I want to take a wild guess.

• 1:00:55Laci Mosley?

  Okay, go on the wild, the wildest side.

• 1:00:58Speaker 04

  Is it Rocna? I'm joking.

• 1:01:01Laci Mosley?

  Roc Nation, Couch Your Days!

• 1:01:03Speaker 04

  Couch Your Days, Roc Nation.

• 1:01:05Laci Mosley?

  Now, okay, I have a better thing. We already know what the company is. What would you name this phone if it's a folder phone and it's also gold-plated and you know it's definitely coming from Roberto?

• 1:01:18Speaker 04

  The Golden Bible, that's what I call it.

• 1:01:20Laci Mosley?

  Okay, the Golden Bible? Okay, they went with Escobar Fold.

• 1:01:27Laci Mosley?

  Gets the people going.

• 1:01:29Speaker 04

  Gets the people going. Listen, sometimes it's not about the name.

• 1:01:34Laci Mosley?

  Brand recognition is already there, okay?

• 1:01:36Speaker 04

  Hey.

• 1:01:36Laci Mosley?

  If you're the Chanel of murder, you don't really need to come up with something like...

• 1:01:40Speaker 04

  With like some...

• 1:01:41Laci Mosley?

  We know Chanel, you know what I mean?

• 1:01:42Speaker 04

  Exactly. You know how many good albums I've listened to with horrible names?

• 1:01:46Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah, for sure.

• 1:01:46Speaker 04

  So many, so many movies too, like...

• 1:01:49Laci Mosley?

  You got served.

• 1:01:52Speaker 04

  Invisible Man.

• 1:01:54Laci Mosley?

  They did not try with Invisible Man. I was like, well, we know he ain't, we ain't gonna be able to see him.

• 1:01:58Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:01:58Laci Mosley?

  You know what they said? Look, we just gonna tell you what you need to know. You're not gonna be able to see him because he's an invisible man.

• 1:02:03Speaker 04

  He's an invisible man. Like, what is the plot? The man?

• 1:02:06Laci Mosley?

  The man.

• 1:02:07Speaker 04

  Who is invisible?

• 1:02:08Laci Mosley?

  Who is invisible.

• 1:02:09Speaker 04

  Do what you will.

• 1:02:10Laci Mosley?

  Like, need we say more?

• 1:02:11Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:02:13Laci Mosley?

  I am legend. You not gonna know what this movie is about until you get here, okay? It's Will Smith talking to mannequins. We did not make that clear.

• 1:02:21Speaker 04

  No, no one really understood that.

• 1:02:23Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 1:02:24Speaker 04

  There was not, there was nothing understanding about that title.

• 1:02:27Laci Mosley?

  At all. And you know what? It also still had risk for me. Cause I was just like, you know, let's go find out why he is the legend.

• 1:02:34Speaker 04

  Look, no one knows what it means, but it's provocative.

• 1:02:36Laci Mosley?

  It gets the people going. Okay. So Escobar Fold. So to mark the 26th anniversary of Pablo Escobar's death on December 3rd, Roberto launched the Escobar Fold 1. Now he's doing it like the iPhone. He already got a 1.

• 1:02:52Speaker 04

  A 1.

• 1:02:53Laci Mosley?

  He letting us know it's gonna be a 2.

• 1:02:54Speaker 04

  He like, listen, there will be a sequel dropping.

• 1:02:56Laci Mosley?

  Okay. And it's a gold-plated foldable smartphone with a flexible screen that can be unfolded into a tablet and used to Google's Android operating system. So this is the Escobar Fold.

• 1:03:13Speaker 04

  This looks like a Nintendo Switch.

• 1:03:15Laci Mosley?

  But it's also like flexible, like, so here's an extremely subtle ad featuring the Escobar girls. You didn't got the Escobar girls involved? That sounds like a failed ad.

• 1:03:27Speaker 04

  They sound like the Wild 'n Out girls, but like for Escobar.

• 1:03:29Laci Mosley?

  Oh, oh wait, but that's really what they are. Wait, they're the Wild 'n Out girls, but for, for Escobar. So this ad, okay, it's a girl, she's...

• 1:03:38Speaker 04

  Got her book.

• 1:03:39Laci Mosley?

  She got her book. It's a, it's a big book. Okay, she's fold, unfolding the, it's a lot of breasts. It's like, the girls are like opening the phone, but it's like also the breasts are fully in frame. Because you know how you work a phone with your boobs?

• 1:03:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, this is like a Victoria's Secret x Samsung collab. Like they, like they got Bluetooth bralettes they finna promote right now.

• 1:04:02Laci Mosley?

  Like I just noticed somewhere in the bralette that I can stick the Escobar phone.

• 1:04:06Speaker 04

  Listen, it's a, it's a portable speaker right here in the bosom.

• 1:04:09Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:04:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you don't even gotta worry about like getting headphones. It's just attached to the bra straps.

• 1:04:15Speaker 04

  And it's like somewhere, it like has a hyper frequency that goes in through the areola and then you can hear it in your ear.

• 1:04:20Laci Mosley?

  We knew y'all knew it was something. Cause we out working it. Cause otherwise what, we, we were trying to post that video. Uh, I, I hope it doesn't get taken off of Instagram, cause it was very, like they were opening the phone with the titties above the phone. Like what am I supposed to be looking at? Phone or the

• 1:04:34Speaker 04

  Y'all done broke so many HIPAA violations with that one commercial.

• 1:04:38Laci Mosley?

  HIPAA?

• 1:04:40Speaker 04

  Somebody, we gotta get everybody, we gotta get the NFL, the CIA, the NBA, everybody on the phone for that commercial.

• 1:04:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that commercial was wild as hell.

• 1:04:48Speaker 04

  Now, that might be an OSHA violation.

• 1:04:49Laci Mosley?

  And you're right, and the director's just like, yeah, yeah, like, no, get, hold the phone up, oh, to my ear, to my ear? No, lower. Oh, oh, like, like, like, you wanna, like, I hold it, like, near my face, like, near my chin? No, lower. Yeah, we're thinking upper stomach.

• 1:05:04Speaker 04

  No, but you can't, you, we can't, we can't talk on the phone from this angle. Yeah, that's because we're promoting the speaker.

• 1:05:10Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:11Speaker 04

  We're promoting the speaker feature, how you press the speaker button and you can hear y'all, even all the way from down here.

• 1:05:16Laci Mosley?

  You can hear it all the way from the boobs to the ears. Yeah, that's what we're telling people, that sound is great.

• 1:05:21Speaker 04

  Exactly, from the boob to the tube, like that, that's our motto.

• 1:05:25Laci Mosley?

  No. So, of course Pablo Escobar's brother didn't really actually make any phones. What he made were brand labels, like you said, LaRue, to put on top of other brands' phones. The Escobar Fold 1 was obviously a rebrand of the Royale Flex Pie, which is another smartphone maker that actually beat Samsung to creating the first foldable phone. Royale went bankrupt in 2024 and Samsung led. Like Samsung, you saw one foldable phone and thought, oh, they went bankrupt, let's do it again.

• 1:05:58Speaker 04

  Let's do it again.

• 1:06:00Laci Mosley?

  Because y'all doing anything over there, that's why.

• 1:06:02Speaker 04

  Listen, sometimes it's, like, what is it, Oreos? Oreos was a knockoff.

• 1:06:07Laci Mosley?

  That's true, sometimes a knockoff is better than the original.

• 1:06:09Speaker 04

  List.

• 1:06:10Laci Mosley?

  Or one of my favorites is, like, Kadoba and how they don't really do advertising for real. Like, they'll just pop up next to a Chipotle, and I was like, I know that's right. Like, imagine your competition, they just show up next to you.

• 1:06:22Speaker 04

  And when Subway took Quiznos out the game.

• 1:06:24Laci Mosley?

  Damn.

• 1:06:25Speaker 04

  Crazy.

• 1:06:26Laci Mosley?

  That hurt me, because I remember them, them little rats that'd be like, eat Quiznos subs, because they are cool too. They are tasty, they are crunchy, you can eat them, they got a pepper bar.

• 1:06:36Speaker 04

  It's you quoting it word for word, bar for bar.

• 1:06:40Laci Mosley?

  Y'all used to love those commercials. If you know, you know. Quiznos.

• 1:06:43Speaker 04

  Quiznos, if you come back.

• 1:06:45Laci Mosley?

  R.I.P. Because like somebody survived some pretty bad scandals to still take y'all out. Like honestly, y'all should have got ruthless with Jared, the whole Jared situation. Been like, we ain't got nobody like that over here at Quiznos.

• 1:06:58Speaker 04

  Like, hey, me firstly over here at Quiznos.

• 1:07:02Laci Mosley?

  We wouldn't say, we wouldn't, we wouldn't have that kind of channane against. Okay, we have little crazy looking rat things with weird teeth representing us, okay? And that's better than that, man.

• 1:07:13Speaker 04

  Did you see that, um, one girl from Love Island, she refounded like a perfume company or something like that? I will do that with Quiznos. I will refound Quiznos.

• 1:07:21Laci Mosley?

  Can we refound, can we find something again?

• 1:07:23Speaker 04

  We can refound some, we can be the refounders.

• 1:07:26Laci Mosley?

  Speaking of which, you are wearing a LeBubu.

• 1:07:29Speaker 04

  I am.

• 1:07:30Laci Mosley?

  Which is a refound, uh.

• 1:07:31Speaker 04

  Yes, and he is wearing his, uh, shisty and gold chain.

• 1:07:34Laci Mosley?

  Shisty and gold chain in honor of scam goddess, which is so beautiful. And you know that's just a refound beanie baby.

• 1:07:42Speaker 04

  You know, it may be, but like.

• 1:07:44Laci Mosley?

  It does have a little bit more risk though, but then when you see the teeth, you'd be like, ah.

• 1:07:47Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, we got his mouth covered.

• 1:07:49Laci Mosley?

  Oh gosh, yeah, put it, keep him in the shisty. Count the teeth. A real LeBubu only has what, like nine teeth?

• 1:07:55Speaker 04

  Like nine teeth. Yeah, the real LeBubu only has nine teeth. You have to count the teeth. And because if he has like eight.

• 1:08:01Laci Mosley?

  Not y'all got authentication situations for the LeBubu.

• 1:08:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, there's authentication for the LeBubus now.

• 1:08:07Laci Mosley?

  He's got nine teeth, y'all. You heard it.

• 1:08:10Speaker 04

  It has to have nine teeth. That was the one indicator. I remember my little sister, she had one with 11. And I had to, I didn't have the heart to tell her that wasn't real.

• 1:08:19Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:08:20Laci Mosley?

  Not the LaNunu, not the LaNono.

• 1:08:22Speaker 04

  LaFufu.

• 1:08:23Laci Mosley?

  LaFufu. She had a LaFufu.

• 1:08:25Speaker 04

  She had a LaFufu.

• 1:08:26Laci Mosley?

  Oh. So, the $399 Escobar Fold 2 was actually just a Samsung Galaxy Fold. Tech YouTuber Marx Brownlee, AKA MKHBD, we're bringing him back. We haven't talked about him in a minute.

• 1:08:42Speaker 04

  Yes, welcome back.

• 1:08:43Laci Mosley?

  Welcome back to the show, uh, Mr. Marquez. So, he showed how very little effort. Had gone into hiding this fact in a 2020 video and we have the video. So at the time, Olaf, remember that's El Salencio, who's the CEO of all the Roberto Escobar's tech companies, said that they had bought Galaxy folds that failed Samsung's quality control standards and had been returned or were classed as overstocked by retailers who overestimated how many that they would sell.

• 1:09:13Speaker 04

  Hey.

• 1:09:13Laci Mosley?

  So that's why in this video that this YouTuber discovers that the phones are very similar because they are.

• 1:09:21Speaker 06

  And this Escobar fold, it's the same phone with a gold sticker glued to it. It's actually a Galaxy fold with gold tin foil adhesive to it.

• 1:09:30Laci Mosley?

  He took off the gold tin foil.

• 1:09:33Speaker 06

  And right underneath.

• 1:09:34Speaker 04

  Oh, he's playing a dangerous game.

• 1:09:36Speaker 06

  Right where it's supposed to be.

• 1:09:37Laci Mosley?

  And he took.

• 1:09:38Speaker 06

  And the gold foil comes off the back with a box cutter or a knife or really enough heat to melt the adhesive. So it's not pretty, but yeah, it is.

• 1:09:46Speaker 04

  He's playing a dangerous game.

• 1:09:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm not getting on the internet and telling Pablo Escobar's brother he's wrong about anything.

• 1:09:55Speaker 04

  No, this is dangerous.

• 1:09:57Laci Mosley?

  I feel like this is group chat activity.

• 1:09:58Speaker 04

  I feel like you just exposed a bunch of family secrets right now and now they're after you.

• 1:10:03Laci Mosley?

  They might have to find you.

• 1:10:04Speaker 04

  They're gonna find you for this one.

• 1:10:05Laci Mosley?

  We're gonna pray for you. Maybe that's why he changed his name to all them letters.

• 1:10:08Speaker 04

  That might have had like nine million views.

• 1:10:10Laci Mosley?

  Exactly.

• 1:10:11Speaker 04

  No, he's.

• 1:10:12Laci Mosley?

  I think he can't have a name.

• 1:10:13Speaker 04

  Roberto was one of those views, trust me.

• 1:10:15Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Roberto was many of those views. Okay, he might get some of the murder for hires out of retirement.

• 1:10:20Speaker 04

  Hello.

• 1:10:20Laci Mosley?

  You better be careful, my guy. That's why he changed his name to all them letters. He said, I can't have a name no more. I got to just be letters.

• 1:10:27Speaker 04

  You know, listen, they might track you through your P O box too. You gotta take all that information out.

• 1:10:31Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, make sure you scrubbed on the internet. But he fully uncovered and ripped off the plastic and like there was the Samsung label. So all they did was like, we know Olaf said that he got them by overstocked retailers or, you know, control standards. Now, what befuddles the mind here is it must have been cheaper to buy these Samsungs that were either defunct or like overstocked in bulk or something because I don't understand why you would buy a phone that was being sold for so much more. Like it's being sold for $1,900 and now you're selling it for like basically $400 and slapping some gold branding on the back. Like, how do you make money off of this?

• 1:11:08Speaker 04

  Something that rhymes with money schlochshering?

• 1:11:12Speaker 04

  Potentially, that's what it sounds like to me.

• 1:11:15Laci Mosley?

  So it's giving you schmunny schmuntering?

• 1:11:16Speaker 04

  Schmunny schmuntering.

• 1:11:17Laci Mosley?

  I don't know if Roberto's the kind of guy who has to schmunny schmunter at this point in his career.

• 1:11:23Speaker 04

  I mean, some people just do it for the sport.

• 1:11:25Laci Mosley?

  They just do it for the thrill.

• 1:11:26Speaker 04

  Just do it for the thrill, love of the game.

• 1:11:29Laci Mosley?

  So like buying restock and reselling it like I just said for a huge loss, it just doesn't make sense unless they weren't really selling any at all.

• 1:11:37Speaker 04

  I couldn't, I couldn't call this, I would, I couldn't even call this dropshipping. I was like, okay, it sounds like dropshipping at first. But then the more you tell me the story and how there's like no profit gain and like no good profit margins being taken place. And I'm like, no, this is not a good deal at all, actually. This is the cover up.

• 1:11:55Laci Mosley?

  So influencer and celebrity endorsement. So LaRonde, that's why I wanted you here today because I know that you sometimes like you go and you appear at events. And they're like, LaRonde, please come, please come, we need you.

• 1:12:08Speaker 04

  You asked me would I promote the Escobar phone?

• 1:12:14Laci Mosley?

  So I was gonna wait for my presentation, but if you see, the Escobar phone has dipped a little bit right now because of the bad press is getting. But I think if LaRonde were to get involved, see how the hand.

• 1:12:26Speaker 04

  We gotta add a couple of them zeros on there for that one.

• 1:12:32Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I'm just saying, like, are you smart? Do you have an Escobar smartphone?

• 1:12:37Speaker 04

  Listen, I don't, I don't plan to be an ethical billionaire either. I don't plan on being an ethical billionaire either. That may just be my step in the unethical billionaire world.

• 1:12:50Laci Mosley?

  So for customers who paid for a phone, Escobar Inc. would ship them promotional items or fake certificates of ownership or a copy of Roberto's autobiography, The Accountant's Story.

• 1:13:01Speaker 04

  Oh, thanks.

• 1:13:01Laci Mosley?

  Talk about a title that ain't shit. We got The Invisible Man, we got The Accountant's Story. I don't wanna know The Accountant's Story. I feel like that's a lot of just crunching numbers. I don't know.

• 1:13:13Speaker 04

  Who is coming up with these names? Like, what happened to a good movie?

• 1:13:18Laci Mosley?

  And I feel like if you, if you are Pablo Escobar's brother, why would you name your book The Accountant's Story? That is the most boring title. You could have named it anything like-

• 1:13:29Speaker 04

  I don't know. The Cat in the Hat is coming for a second place. Him and the Cat in the Hat are fighting for most boring title.

• 1:13:35Laci Mosley?

  I don't know. I want to know why the cat in the hat. How the cat get in the hat? And why is the cat in the hat?

• 1:13:40Speaker 04

  You don't want to know why the accountant got a story?

• 1:13:41Laci Mosley?

  Who's cat does it belong to?

• 1:13:43Speaker 04

  You don't know why the accountant got a story?

• 1:13:45Laci Mosley?

  I mean, unless this is implying that accountants don't have stories typically, and he got the one.

• 1:13:49Speaker 04

  The one with a story. I've never looked at an accountant and been like, dang.

• 1:13:53Laci Mosley?

  He probably got a story.

• 1:13:54Speaker 04

  How did you get here?

• 1:13:57Speaker 04

  Like, why numbers? Like, I've never looked at an accountant and said that. So for an accountant to have a story, it's got to be a really good story.

• 1:14:04Laci Mosley?

  You are making a really good point here. It does have to be a really good story. Because we never ask accountants like, so yeah, when you saw a calculator, you were just like, that's, it did something to you?

• 1:14:14Speaker 04

  It just made you tingle, didn't it?

• 1:14:15Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So, okay. So, the accountant's story. He was sending all types of random stuff to people, but not the phone. So, MKBHD, which is the man who probably needs to go into WITSEC, the YouTuber Marquez who uncovered the phone scam, had paid for an Escobar fold, one, and two, under two different names and mailing addresses, and never received them. At least he knew not to put the real mailing address, until he tweeted about it to his millions of followers, and the company noticed he was a tech influencer. Whenever a payment processing service tried to chase down a customer's money, Escobar Inc. would present tracking information as proof of delivery. This is a very prevalent scam that happens to this day.

• 1:14:59Laci Mosley?

  Beware of buying things off of Instagram random companies, because maybe they will send you a rock in a box and a tracking number. Yeah.

• 1:15:07Speaker 04

  They literally will.

• 1:15:08Laci Mosley?

  So, and then that email just disappears. You will never find them ever again. So, basically now, Olaf, back to Olaf El Salencio, would send the tracking info to payment services and make it appear that the phone had been shipped and received. So, he said-

• 1:15:24Speaker 04

  Oh, this is a small business.

• 1:15:25Laci Mosley?

  So, was he being like El Salencio to the customers? He was like, Salencio, you got your product.

• 1:15:31Laci Mosley?

  It turns out the phones only arrived for influencers like MKBHD. McBad.

• 1:15:36Speaker 04

  McBad.

• 1:15:37Laci Mosley?

  Let's just call him McBad.

• 1:15:37Speaker 04

  McBad. Who's bad?

• 1:15:38Laci Mosley?

  Who's bad, McBad? Who might do a video review or an unboxing, making the product seem real. So one of their only celebrity endorsements comes from Chris Hansen, the former host of To Catch a Predator.

• 1:15:52Speaker 04

  Hey.

• 1:15:54Laci Mosley?

  Chris Hansen said, "I like you and I want you."

• 1:15:57Speaker 04

  I see.

• 1:15:57Laci Mosley?

  Samsung fold. Oh, God, oh, this photo is always a joke scare.

• 1:16:02Speaker 04

  Because being ethical was never a part of his brand.

• 1:16:06Laci Mosley?

  Listen, Chris Hansen, he has the face of like, you're in trouble. I've never seen resting like,

• 1:16:15Laci Mosley?

  "Look here, buddy."

• 1:16:16Speaker 04

  Let's sit down. You know who he kind of looks like the more I stare at him? Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down. Rick Astley. That is an interesting name.

• 1:16:28Laci Mosley?

  It is.

• 1:16:29Speaker 04

  Rick Astley.

• 1:16:29Laci Mosley?

  I could see that, but also this man is just, he has resting principal off his face.

• 1:16:34Speaker 04

  He does, like.

• 1:16:35Laci Mosley?

  I've never seen this.

• 1:16:36Speaker 04

  It's definitely giving "I Know What You Did" last summer.

• 1:16:39Laci Mosley?

  Yes, it's like, you know all those photos of Anthony Mackie where he looks like he knows a secret about you?

• 1:16:43Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:16:43Laci Mosley?

  Anthony Mackie's face is like more like,

• 1:16:45Speaker 04

  This is my favorite Anthony.

• 1:16:47Laci Mosley?

  Like the ones like,

• 1:16:49Laci Mosley?

  Anthony Mackie's face is more like, "You know I know what you did." This guy is like, "The authorities are outside."

• 1:16:54Speaker 04

  You know, like, he gets that little Janet Jackson smirk.

• 1:16:57Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and it's everything.

• 1:16:58Speaker 04

  I love it.

• 1:16:59Laci Mosley?

  So, Chris Hansen, I don't know. With their whole brand being To Catch a Predator, I feel like, and you did get sued a lot for not, uh, for...

• 1:17:08Speaker 04

  Not properly catching them.

• 1:17:10Laci Mosley?

  Yes, um, there was some shakeups there, Chris, but you know, overall, you were a cultural landmark and we say your name.

• 1:17:18Speaker 04

  Now people are doing it on YouTube, so he's kind of a pioneer.

• 1:17:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's wild. I'm not gon', don't be do, I don't know, if it's helping, if it's helping. So only a handful, like, full of influencers got the phones, while regular paying customers received nada. Olaf wired more than $307,000 of scam money between December 2019 and June of 2020. It was the same scheme Roberto and Olaf had done before with paying customers of the flamethrowers. Most of the knockoff flamethrower customers never actually received one either. So he was beefing with Elon, saying, "You stole my, my product." He wasn't even giving the product.

• 1:17:54Speaker 04

  "You stole my dream, Dina, and you stole my..."

• 1:17:59Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Elon took everything from him.

• 1:18:02Speaker 04

  He did.

• 1:18:03Laci Mosley?

  So, the FBI reached out to McBad, that's what we're calling him, the tech YouTuber, Marquez, after the video like came out to review the possible scam that Escobar Inc. was running. That's what I'm telling y'all, like, we worried about 3G and them and the government trying to get us, when it's like, we're doing the work for them.

• 1:18:19Speaker 04

  We buying Escobar phones.

• 1:18:20Laci Mosley?

  Right. The FBI saw a viral video and was like, y'all get on YouTube and comment, "Hey, this F Federal Bureau intern, what up? DM us."

• 1:18:30Speaker 04

  DM us. We have something for you.

• 1:18:33Laci Mosley?

  Right. We have some justice for you, because like, what am I getting out of this? So, they looked at communications between the Escobar company and the YouTuber's team and seized the peeled off phone sent to him for further examination. Olaf was arrested in Spain two years ago and extradited to the US this year. He had also marketed gold-plated iPhones for $500, and the Escobar Cash, which was still advertised as the world's first physical cryptocurrency. How you gonna have a physical cryptocurrency? That's money.

• 1:19:03Speaker 04

  Hey.

• 1:19:04Laci Mosley?

  How you gonna reinvent money, Pablo? I mean, Roberto? You know what? La Boo Boo. La Boo Boo did it. So, you know what? We can all make, I got a new money for y'all too. It's in my car, okay?

• 1:19:15Speaker 04

  We need to come up with something. We gotta, we gotta like take, we gotta like

• 1:19:19Laci Mosley?

  We need to have a Samsung night, where we just get in our Samsung bag and just start doing anything.

• 1:19:24Speaker 04

  Yes, let's do it.

• 1:19:25Laci Mosley?

  And we're gonna come up with something amazing. I know we are.

• 1:19:28Speaker 04

  A Samsung night and wine. That's what we're gonna call it.

• 1:19:30Laci Mosley?

  A little wine will Sam's a night. So, as of 2025, Olaf has pleaded guilty to multiple counts of fraud and money laundering, and agreed to pay his victims $1.3 million in restitution. We'll see if they get that. He faces up to 20 years in federal prison for each fraud count and up to 10 years for each money laundering count. And Roberto seems to have gotten away with it yet again. For all his crazy business crimes, he did at least start a GoFundMe trying to impeach Trump during his first term in 2019, because of the treatment of Latino people. So, that time, at least he was right. Now, we know that GoFundMe was not...

• 1:20:07Laci Mosley?

  Actually going to like, like when you start a GoFundMe that is just like for vagueness. Like, what do you mean to impeach Donald Trump? So if we give you 50 million dollars, you, how you go impeach him?

• 1:20:21Speaker 04

  You know how you gonna impeach him? You know exactly how you gonna impeach him.

• 1:20:25Laci Mosley?

  Are we using your old school services?

• 1:20:27Speaker 04

  He just needs, he just needs the platform, the plan and the, and the method.

• 1:20:31Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:20:32Speaker 04

  He just needs a little incentive. That was his incentive, like, hey.

• 1:20:35Laci Mosley?

  Cause are we taking him out of office or off the planet? I don't know what you mean by that.

• 1:20:42Speaker 04

  That's exactly what he means. Cause it's like, he's not an American citizen, it don't make him no difference. He just needs the incentive to be incentivized to go do the job.

• 1:20:50Laci Mosley?

  I feel like if we gave you GoFundMe money for this, we would end up on a watch list. Cause it sounds like a hit. It doesn't like, how else you go?

• 1:20:57Speaker 04

  Next thing you know, we all accessories.

• 1:20:59Laci Mosley?

  Right. I don't wanna be an accessory. I'm not accessorizing.

• 1:21:02Speaker 04

  I'm not an accessory. I'm not a bag. I'm not a, I'm not a necklace.

• 1:21:04Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I'm not a ring, none of it.

• 1:21:06Speaker 04

  Not a snapback.

• 1:21:07Laci Mosley?

  But that brings us to the end of this episode. Um, LaRonde, we always ask here, where would you like to be found?

• 1:21:17Speaker 04

  Oh, gosh. Where would I like to be found?

• 1:21:20Laci Mosley?

  Could be social media, it could be anything you wanna plug, whatever the case may be.

• 1:21:24Speaker 04

  Oh, my gosh. Definitely.

• 1:21:26Laci Mosley?

  Podcast, whatever.

• 1:21:26Speaker 04

  Definitely my socia's, uh, LaRonde Hines Official. You can find more things about me. I do have a podcast called The Zillennial Podcast that I am currently doing. But then also there's something else in the works that I'm currently working on. Not gonna tell you guys a little too much, but it's gonna be super fun. And, um, so please be on the lookout for all of that, um, coming very soon.

• 1:21:47Laci Mosley?

  Yes, we'd love to hear it.

• 1:21:48Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:21:48Laci Mosley?

  And y'all, you can find me at D I V A L A C I D, Velaci, on all platforms. You can see all of these jumpscare photos and videos on Scam Goddess Pod's Instagram, Scam Goddess Pod. You can chat with me on Scam Goddess Pod on Twitter. And you can see all six episodes of my television show, Scam Goddess, on Hulu right now, all streaming. And you can watch the first season of Going Dutch. We are going back for season two, but if you wanna see Sargeant Conway, which is my character. Nothing Conway, don't, don't, don't read into it. Um, definitely do. And you can listen to my audiobook or purchase it anywhere our books are sold. It's also called Scam Goddess. What do you know?

• 1:22:27Speaker 04

  Brand consistency.

• 1:22:29Laci Mosley?

  Brand consistency. Congregation, I want you guys to get out there and infinitely grow.

• 1:22:38Laci Mosley?

  Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Sisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming.

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