#2478 - Theo Von

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:13Joe Rogan?

  People making that. Thank you.

• 0:16Speaker 02

  Who do you mean by those people?

• 0:18Joe Rogan?

  Uh, you know. You know.

• 0:22Speaker 02

  It's changed over the years.

• 0:23Joe Rogan?

  The ones with the horns. I don't know. You know.

• 0:26Speaker 02

  You mean band members? Who are you talking about?

• 0:28Joe Rogan?

  Uh, stuff, uh, music, music industry.

• 0:32Speaker 02

  Dude, yeah.

• 0:33Joe Rogan?

  We're just talking about, we should tell people what we're talking about. If you hum a song, just like fuck around and like, you know, like the cocaine song, you know what I mean? If you play Eric Clapton, you know, if you do that, you'll get flagged on YouTube. They, and they take money from you.

• 0:49Speaker 02

  How desperate is that?

• 0:51Joe Rogan?

  It's gross. Like, you can't even hum a song? You can't, like, what are you talking about?

• 0:56Speaker 02

  You can't even hum. In the future, you're not even gonna be able to fall in love. They're gonna charge you for it.

• 1:00Joe Rogan?

  How are they gonna do that?

• 1:01Speaker 02

  They'll find.

• 1:02Joe Rogan?

  Well, you won't be falling in love with the person anymore. People will be outdated. People come with problems.

• 1:07Speaker 02

  I ain't coming on no bot.

• 1:09Joe Rogan?

  No? Ever? What about InOne?

• 1:11Speaker 02

  No. What will they do with it?

• 1:13Joe Rogan?

  Keep it.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14Joe Rogan?

  Maybe that's what keeps them alive. Imagine that?

• 1:18Speaker 02

  Let me think about it for just a second.

• 1:19Joe Rogan?

  You gotta fuck her every day to keep her alive. If you don't, she starts shriveling up on you, like she's on Ozempic.

• 1:25Speaker 02

  So she's Latina, you're saying?

• 1:27Joe Rogan?

  You gotta keep her plump.

• 1:29Speaker 02

  You gotta keep her, you gotta keep, uh, you gotta keep the juices flowing, huh?

• 1:32Joe Rogan?

  There'd be guys that would sign up for that. Okay, I could, I think I could do that. But day 5,026 in a row, you'd be like, oh my God, I can't do this.

• 1:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:43Joe Rogan?

  And then she's dying.

• 1:45Speaker 02

  Why is she dying? She's electric, isn't she?

• 1:46Joe Rogan?

  She's only, gets powered by cum.

• 1:49Speaker 02

  Oh, oh, that's sad.

• 1:51Joe Rogan?

  And three days with no cum, she shuts off and that's it. And you can't bring her back.

• 1:55Speaker 02

  I'd shut her down quick.

• 1:58Speaker 02

  She would be.

• 1:59Joe Rogan?

  You'd have to let your buddies fuck her just to like keep her alive.

• 2:02Speaker 02

  Oh, that's gonna be gross, Joe.

• 2:04Joe Rogan?

  It would be.

• 2:05Speaker 02

  And it would be sad and stuff like that. And you'd have some buddy like late at night like, hey, bro.

• 2:10Joe Rogan?

  Loves her.

• 2:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he loves her.

• 2:11Speaker 02

  What's your wife doing? Like texting you at like 4 a.m.?

• 2:15Joe Rogan?

  Bro, if you need me to keep her alive.

• 2:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:16Joe Rogan?

  He's over there stroking that while he's on the phone with you.

• 2:19Speaker 02

  Bro, plug your wife in for a little bit, bro. Let me chart, yeah. Let me come over there.

• 2:23Joe Rogan?

  We're getting close. Did you see those ones they have at the consumer electronics show in Vegas?

• 2:27Speaker 02

  The dancing ones?

• 2:28Joe Rogan?

  No, it's an A.I. companion. That's a robot. It's like a very pretty lady. And her mouth moves and she talks and it's not there yet, but it's in the neighborhood. You know, it's not at the right door, but it just entered the community. You know what I mean?

• 2:43Speaker 02

  You think so?

• 2:43Joe Rogan?

  You know, some communities have that awning, like, welcome to like Paradise Estates. And you go through and there's all the houses in the subsection.

• 2:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:50Joe Rogan?

  It's in the door.

• 2:51Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:51Joe Rogan?

  It's in the door. It's just not at your house yet.

• 2:53Speaker 02

  Hidden Oaks or whatever?

• 2:54Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 2:55Speaker 02

  Or Hunter's Glen or Racist Cove or whatever?

• 2:57Joe Rogan?

  The fuck robot has made it through onto your street. It's just not at your house yet. And it will be in five to 10 years.

• 3:06Speaker 02

  My kids aren't fucking robots.

• 3:07Joe Rogan?

  They will. If you have kids, they're gonna fuck robots.

• 3:09Speaker 02

  No, they won't, Joe.

• 3:10Joe Rogan?

  You won't be able to stop them. All their friends are gonna be able to do it. It'd be rude. It'd be like keeping them off social media.

• 3:16Speaker 02

  That's crazy, dude.

• 3:18Joe Rogan?

  If you're keeping kids off social media, they feel left out. They're like, come on, dad. Let me get Snapchat. Like, no, son. I want you to concentrate on your homework and your football.

• 3:29Speaker 02

  Come on, dad.

• 3:30Joe Rogan?

  Come on, dad. Let me get Snapchat.

• 3:32Speaker 02

  No, one, look, your dad wakes you up early. He's like, look, one of you little bastards left the fricking cum robot in the yard.

• 3:40Speaker 02

  Which one of you?

• 3:41Joe Rogan?

  All delirious, covered in cum, all your friends fucked it.

• 3:46Speaker 02

  That's sad. But I do think that one day our smiles will be in a museum. That's where we're headed. It's like the feelings are starting to disappear, you know?

• 3:54Joe Rogan?

  Maybe that's what autism is. Like severe autism?

• 3:57Speaker 02

  Well, I've thought about that a lot, that that's why we're getting to some of the like, the only way we could get to this place if we get to this data-driven place where it's like, you know, alien-esque, things start to feel alien-esque here is because of autism leading, uh, it's when autism mixes with, um, what's it called, our society's based on money, capitalism. When autism and capitalism converge, things got really weird.

• 4:21Joe Rogan?

  Right, and think about it, right? We don't know exactly what is causing autism. They have a lot of suspicions, a lot of them have to do with vaccines and different medications and different chemicals and pollutants and all sorts of different things.

• 4:34Speaker 02

  And cologne too.

• 4:35Joe Rogan?

  One thing we could all agree on, and Tylenol they think too, right? But one thing that we can all agree on, it's a big factor is stuff that we've created. It's a big factor, whatever it is. Let's not put the blame on any one of these industries, but there's something going on where more people are getting autism now than ever, and it seems almost positive that it's coming from us, that we did something, human society. Well, if you think about where human society is going, wouldn't that be a way to turn us into something new? Right? If we were gonna merge with machines, what better way than to like eliminate empathy, eliminate emotions,

• 5:20Joe Rogan?

  make us like able to like stay at home and stare at a screen for hours at a time with no concern whatsoever? Just the kind of social detachment along with the integration of all this crazy new technology and the people, a lot of the people that are in the tech business at high levels are on the spectrum.

• 5:40Speaker 02

  Oh dude, yeah. They're on the fucking diving board of the spectrum.

• 5:43Joe Rogan?

  And they're the ones bringing in AI. They're bringing in the next version of life. Kind of, I mean, almost like we're thinking it's like a mistake. But it might not be. It might be like a crucial part of the system when you get further and further integrated with technology and all the stuff that you need to make it. And all the stuff that's involved in capitalism, including like lying about what medications kids needs and giving them this, giving them that, lying about what kind of, what the pesticides do, or the chemicals do, or, you know, whatever it is. What is that ultimately doing? If it's, if it's leading people to be on the spectrum more and more often, what if one day it's not one in 12 in California, if it's 100%?

• 6:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:26Joe Rogan?

  Everybody, you got a full spectrum society and there's no regular people left.

• 6:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:31Joe Rogan?

  You have to think about that, if it's one in 12 boys right now in California and it used to be like one in 10,000, this is like an invasion.

• 6:40Speaker 02

  Right.

• 6:41Joe Rogan?

  Like an invasion of like, of a way that people think that's entering into human civilization.

• 6:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I feel like it was, I, I agree, right? So then it's like, those, and, and then if you don't have this like uprising, this emotional uprising out of people of like, you know, like, this is wrong, because I think like, you know, when you get real data based and like that kind of like, tis a mess type of energy, I think you're not, you know, you're not thinking about some of the, like, how it affects you as much, or maybe just you're able to like, roll into that nest of like, this is this new digital landscape and those people fit well in it. Does that make any sense?

• 7:23Joe Rogan?

  It does, it does make, fit well, and they do fit well in it. I know a lot of people that are on spectruming that are very happy just being online all the time.

• 7:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:32Joe Rogan?

  That's what they do.

• 7:33Speaker 02

  And dude, maybe that's what's supposed, yeah, that's the scary part is like, what if that's what's supposed to happen?

• 7:38Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 7:39Speaker 02

  And the rest of us are just like, because I'm like, I think of romanticist, you know, I'm thinking like, oh yeah, a porch and a rocking chair and then, you know, but, you know, other people are like, yeah, we're coming in robots and shit like that and ordering bagels through our fucking brain cells and shit, you know, like, it's just like, um...

• 7:55Joe Rogan?

  We're thinking of autism as a flaw, but it might be a feature.

• 7:58Speaker 02

  But is it what, is it, okay, is it what nature wants, or is it something that we're creating that is heading us down a very dark path? I feel like it's, not autism, but all of it in conjunction is the second one.

• 8:12Joe Rogan?

  It might be what the universe wants.

• 8:16Joe Rogan?

  It might be how it goes. Like, there has to be some sort of a pathway from territorial primates to something new. Right?

• 8:28Speaker 02

  Does there?

• 8:29Joe Rogan?

  I think so. Yeah, because otherwise we would still be single-celled organisms. Everything's moving in a general direction of more complexity.

• 8:36Speaker 02

  Okay, that's fair.

• 8:37Joe Rogan?

  So if it's moving in a general direction of more complexity, we're, and with all the technology that we're making, like, we're moving into some fucking weird place, right? Wouldn't it be better if you just, like, easily accepted that? And what better way than if you're one of those dudes that's on the spectrum that loves to chill at home and play video games, just stare at a screen? Doesn't really need a lot of human contact.

• 8:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, one of those fucking data wiggers or whatever they call them. You know, those fucking tech monkeys or whatever.

• 9:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, those guys are just all about it. They're all about it. They're wearing Apple Watches and the fucking everything is digital.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  Yep, yep, yep. They had to do with a fucking whoop neck brace. It was like, it kept updating on those watches, like, your neck's still broken or whatever.

• 9:16Joe Rogan?

  It's got a whoop cock ring.

• 9:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, bro, it's crazy.

• 9:19Joe Rogan?

  So he could fuck his robot.

• 9:20Speaker 02

  Bro, you blinked twice and you're fucking, yeah, it like, it shoots GLP-1s and you're nuts. It's just like, it's all too, but it's, it's happened too fast, bro, and it's too much, and it starts to be like, is it being controlled?

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• 12:37Speaker 02

  Dude, here's something that I was-

• 12:39Joe Rogan?

  It's being controlled by a small amount of people, which is always scary.

• 12:42Speaker 02

  That's scary.

• 12:42Joe Rogan?

  It's always scary when a small amount of individuals have insane amounts of power and wealth. And that's what's gonna happen with this AI thing, and that's what's, what happened with tech. Look, look what happened with tech. With tech, the vast majority of the people that are involved were all like heavily left-wing, very progressive. Like, kind of even far-left in a way. And, look, they pushed the entire country's narrative in that direction through censorship on social media, through banning any accounts that didn't, you know, didn't kind of commit to the narrative.

• 13:16Speaker 02

  Russiagate?

• 13:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Russiagate, anything about Hunter Biden's laptop, anything about vaccines being deadly, or, you know, maybe it came from a lab, all that stuff would get you kicked off. So, it was all moving in this one ideological direction. That's the, like, literally the conversation the entire country's having, and there's no other output. Before, you know, there was a few of them that came around, like Gab and some other ones, some social media sites that were like a response to that, but they never really took off, right?

• 13:48Speaker 02

  Nothing took off yet.

• 13:49Joe Rogan?

  Not, not really. You know, there's some people that are on threads, and there's some people on Truth, but the reality is, if you're not on Twitter, you're, you're not really gonna connect with most people. That's the giant majority of people having conversations, and it was all completely controlled by a small group of people with one ideology.

• 14:08Speaker 02

  But then, didn't all those, or half of those people move over to the other political party? When, uh, Trump got elected, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, Zuckerberg was on the left side, Bezos seemed like a very left-leaning guy, and then they're all just, so that's what made me start to think, oh, none of these guys are really on a side. There's this other third side that a lot of us can't see that, uh, is just kind of commandeering or fabricating or like infiltrating both sides.

• 14:37Joe Rogan?

  If I could hum a song right now, I'd hum the Pink Floyd song, "Money."

• 14:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:41Joe Rogan?

  You know what I'm saying?

• 14:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:42Joe Rogan?

  Cause that's what they were protecting that.

• 14:44Speaker 02

  Cheddar. That cash, baby.

• 14:46Joe Rogan?

  Protecting that cash.

• 14:47Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 14:48Joe Rogan?

  I mean, look how many people are fucking moving out of all these states that are trying to impose wealth taxes. They're trying to steal money from the people that are the most successful. I was reading something about Massachusetts and how much this lady was reporting about how much Massachusetts has um, lost from that because people leave the state. Their businesses leave the state. New York is having the same problem like Kathy Hochul lady. You know, now she's asking people, I don't know how to say her name. I don't care.

• 15:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, get a better name.

• 15:15Joe Rogan?

  Uh, who cares what her name is?

• 15:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:17Joe Rogan?

  She's asking people to go to Palm Beach and tell people to come back to New York now because we're losing tax base. Like, come on. Of course you're losing tax base. You can't just arbitrarily decide that because someone makes more money, they deserve to give you more money. And then what have you done with the money you have?

• 15:36Speaker 02

  That's the best part.

• 15:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh, a shit ton of waste and fraud and have you corrected any of that? No. So your solution is what? More money?

• 15:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:44Joe Rogan?

  Okay, fuck all the way off. Of course these people are gonna leave. You're a bunch of incompetent stooges and you're in charge of all the money in the state. And that's dumb.

• 15:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:55Joe Rogan?

  And that's why Chevron moved out of California and Tesla moved out of California and In-N-Out Burger moved out of California.

• 16:03Speaker 02

  We moved out?

• 16:04Joe Rogan?

  We moved out of California.

• 16:05Speaker 02

  Companies, but we're people.

• 16:06Joe Rogan?

  We might as well be companies. We're small companies. But it's like, you can't just say we're gonna take more money and that'll fix it.

• 16:15Speaker 02

  But you don't think billionaire, yeah. Especially dude, what has happened like with this follow up to the Somali fraud? Like all of these fraud buildings where it's like blatant, there's no businesses. It's just a sign on the door and like it, it feels like there's no follow up to it.

• 16:30Joe Rogan?

  There's some, there's some, there's some people that are being prosecuted right now. There is a, a bunch of investigations regarding Minnesota, regarding California. They're getting in there. They have to get in there now because it's been exposed nationally. But the real question is how did it go on for so long? How did you allow it to happen for so long?

• 16:49Speaker 02

  They knew.

• 16:50Joe Rogan?

  Bro, you wanna, you wanna know like what's real bad? What's real bad is like the amount of money that California has wasted. If their solution is to try to tax people, have you ever seen like what they did with the high speed rail?

• 17:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, nothing.

• 17:04Joe Rogan?

  They spent billions of dollars.

• 17:07Joe Rogan?

  There's some guy who broke down how much China, how much high-speed rail China did in the same time that it took California to do their high-speed rail. It's actually funny.

• 17:18Speaker 02

  I've done some rail out of China, I'll tell you that.

• 17:21Joe Rogan?

  Have you?

• 17:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:22Joe Rogan?

  I don't think it's the same stuff.

• 17:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's different.

• 17:24Joe Rogan?

  I think we're talking about different things.

• 17:25Speaker 02

  But, uh, no, China, dude, they're doing, dude, it's weird when you start thinking, hey, China looks like a good place to live.

• 17:31Joe Rogan?

  They've got their shit together, I'll tell you that. A lot of these places with kings, they really know how to run things. They do a real solid job.

• 17:39Speaker 02

  They fucking do. Poland's got their shit together, dude.

• 17:42Joe Rogan?

  They do have their shit together. And they were communists not that long ago, you know?

• 17:46Speaker 02

  Poland's got their shit, they don't let any of this influence, Spain, I feel like is taking their shit back.

• 17:51Joe Rogan?

  True.

• 17:52Speaker 02

  They're picking up their toys.

• 17:53Joe Rogan?

  I gotta find this, uh, here it is. This is, this is actually funny. When you see like the comparison between like what China's done and what we've done in the same amount of time.

• 18:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:05Joe Rogan?

  It's actually kinda funny.

• 18:06Speaker 02

  Oh, I wanna say thanks too to this lady Sarah Wycheck I just gave, she just came and helped me get blood a little while ago. And she was, she's just a nurse practitioner and you could tell she was just working hard.

• 18:16Joe Rogan?

  She hooked you up?

• 18:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, she was just like, you know, showed up and just like, just got it done for me. You could tell she just like is a hardworking lady. I admire hardworking women.

• 18:25Joe Rogan?

  Oh, what about hardworking men? Do you like them? Yeah, that's it, Jamie.

• 18:28Speaker 02

  Well, they should be.

• 18:29Joe Rogan?

  So, look at this. Things that happened faster than-

• 18:31Speaker 02

  Who's this fucking gooner though? Who's that dude? Is that Nelk?

• 18:37Speaker 02

  Fuck, he fell off.

• 18:38Speaker 04

  Things that happened faster than building the California high-speed rail. China's entire high-speed rail network of thirty thousand miles. Our LA to SF segment would have taken them two months. Dubai, going from barren desert wasteland to barren culture wasteland. Timothy Chalamet's entire existence. iPhone one through seventeen. And the internet. Follow for more bullshit.

• 19:04Speaker 02

  I love that guy. That's Harrison Baum. Good for him. That's crazy, isn't it?

• 19:09Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy. And they just took billions of dollars in taxes and they go, "Oh, we're working on it."

• 19:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. But where, here's, everything is fraud. You're starting to realize, it's all fraud.

• 19:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, if it's not fraud, it's waste. And it's bureaucracy. So they keep the money coming in, so they keep people working, but the people don't do anything.

• 19:27Speaker 02

  And the, dude, and we can't even fucking keep the TSA workers. Dude, I fucking snuck a half a handful of goldfish to a fucking TSA worker the other day, the edible ones. Just to fucking keep them going, dude, out there.

• 19:38Joe Rogan?

  You gave them some goldfish?

• 19:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're not even getting paid.

• 19:40Joe Rogan?

  I know. They, they just started getting back pay.

• 19:43Speaker 02

  But still, it's just, but the fact that that's like a...

• 19:45Joe Rogan?

  Crazy. Like that they're the least priority. Like, bro, flying is fucking super important, you dummies. You wanna keep the economy going, you gotta let people fly around. They got shit to do, man. You can't just fucking not pay the TSA people, you fucking idiots. How come you get paid?

• 20:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:04Joe Rogan?

  How come you get paid?

• 20:06Speaker 02

  I'm just sick of this shit. And I'm sick of rich people not putting their fucking kids over in these wars and shit like that. Put your fucking honky ass kids up there. Let them go shed some fucking blood.

• 20:16Joe Rogan?

  Especially if you're asking for it.

• 20:18Speaker 02

  Especially if you're out there fucking bullshitting, dude. Put your fucking honky little fancy ass fucking kid up there, man. That shit makes me mad, bro.

• 20:26Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think there's also a problem. The people that I've talked to that have served overseas and have been involved and deployed in military operations and seen a lot of shit. There are, a lot of them are the opinion that you shouldn't be able to make those decisions if you've never been to war. You don't know what it is. You don't know what you're sending people to do. It doesn't mean you're not still gonna be a tyrant, cuz there are some people. Like clearly Netanyahu's been to war. You know, he's been, he was in the military. He was involved in some shit.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  Was he?

• 20:56Joe Rogan?

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• 22:18Speaker 02

  War is a unique term.

• 22:20Joe Rogan?

  War is a fucking terrifying thing.

• 22:21Speaker 02

  But I mean, I wouldn't call it as war, but I-

• 22:24Joe Rogan?

  You mean what they're doing right now in Gaza?

• 22:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I'm not jumping on you-

• 22:28Joe Rogan?

  Iran is war. That's war. Iran's a real enemy. You know, it's a different-

• 22:35Speaker 02

  Are they enemy to America?

• 22:36Joe Rogan?

  Well, what they are is the largest country in terms of like state-sponsored terrorism. They're the largest sponsor of terrorism. But also, you gotta think, why? You know, and this is not excusing anybody for Islamist ideology, because it's scary, because they want a global caliphate, right? They're radicals. But you gotta go back to what happened in that country. And if you go back to what happened in that country, they tried to nationalize oil. Iran was like a westernized country. Girls were wearing miniskirts, everybody's hot.

• 23:11Speaker 02

  You seen that video from the 70s of Iran?

• 23:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, bro, everybody looked great.

• 23:15Speaker 02

  Tits are popping.

• 23:16Joe Rogan?

  What happened is slowly but surely, and quickly at first, because when they tried to nationalize oil,

• 23:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:23Joe Rogan?

  the CIA swooped in, and they fucking got that guy out of office, and- They allowed these Islamic, you know, radicalists to start running the country.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  Well, that's when Hezbollah started, right?

• 23:36Joe Rogan?

  I don't know exactly when Hezbollah started, but the point is, the country was doing fine before we monkeyed with it. And we monkeyed with it because they were not getting enough of the money from the oil. So it was the British Petroleum Company, I think. Put it into perplexity, the story of Iran, uh, their government being overthrown. I think it was in the 1950s. So when you, we see like, how it all played out, and why it is what it is today. Jesus Christ, you'd be mad too.

• 24:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:08Joe Rogan?

  And when you're mad and you're surrounded by bigger enemies that all have nuclear weapons, you don't even have nuclear weapons. Wouldn't you be trying to make them? You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not saying Iran should have nuclear weapons. I don't think anybody should have nuclear weapons.

• 24:19Speaker 02

  But Israel gets to have them.

• 24:22Joe Rogan?

  Allegedly, this is the problem, allegedly.

• 24:24Speaker 02

  Everything's allegedly with them.

• 24:25Joe Rogan?

  Allegedly.

• 24:26Speaker 02

  Except for the genocide.

• 24:27Joe Rogan?

  You know, they're not, they don't officially have them.

• 24:31Speaker 02

  Right.

• 24:31Joe Rogan?

  I don't think they admit they officially have them. And you know who is a big opponent of Israel getting nuclear weapons?

• 24:37Speaker 02

  JFK.

• 24:37Joe Rogan?

  JFK.

• 24:38Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 24:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. That's what a lot of people think led, uh, back into the left.

• 24:43Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Before they killed him who? I don't know.

• 24:46Joe Rogan?

  So, the Iranian revolution, also called the Islamic Revolution, was a mass uprising in Iran, overthrew the Shah's monarchy in 1979, replaced it with an Islamic republic led by Ayatollah Ruhla Khomeini.

• 25:00Speaker 02

  Shah Rukh, they call him.

• 25:02Joe Rogan?

  I want you to go back to the national, ask it a question of what was the events that led to, um, them trying to nationalize their oil? Here it is. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. No, that's not it. The, so the, but, what was, uh, banned real opposition, use a secret police to surveil jail? I'll just put into, ask another question. What were the events that took place after Iran tried to nationalize oil? Just ask that question. What are the events that took place?

• 25:41Joe Rogan?

  When Iran tried to nationalize oil.

• 25:44Speaker 02

  Bruh, fuck oil. I'd rather walk if this is the shit that's gonna come out of all of it. You feel me?

• 25:48Joe Rogan?

  The problem is, it's not just oil for your car. It's everything you use. Plastic is, they use petroleum-based chemicals are responsible for medicine.

• 25:58Speaker 02

  But it's also getting in our nuts now and people can't even fucking read anymore because of it. So it's like, what is all that stuff helping us anymore?

• 26:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, here it is. So Iran's attempt to nationalize its oil in the 1950s unfolded as a chain of political, economic, and international confrontations centered on Prime Minister Mohammed Mosa, how do you say his name? Mogadegh? Mosa, Mosa Day?

• 26:19Speaker 02

  Let me see. Masa Deg.

• 26:21Joe Rogan?

  Mosa Deg. And British-controlled Anglo-Iranian oil company, I'll walk you through the key events. But it had to do with who was in control of the oil before that, like who was making the money before that. I know perplexity's gonna give us the fucking tinfoil hat story of how it went down. But the bottom line is, people are making a lot of money over there in oil, and they wanted most of the money and they got boxed out. And then they wound up with a fucking psychotic dictator.

• 26:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:54Joe Rogan?

  And a lot of the, I mean, if you look back on what Iran looked like when it was a westernized country, like, damn, we should have fucking supported whatever the fuck was going on back then.

• 27:05Speaker 02

  I know. I think, do you feel like we used to do things that were better and then we got, uh...

• 27:11Joe Rogan?

  Here's the tinfoil hat version. I love how perplexity gives you a tinfoil hat version. Nice. The story's basically Iran tried to take back its oil. The British and Americans teamed up in secret to crush that idea and send a warning to the rest of the world. Britain had built its empire and navy on cheap Iranian oil via the Anglo-Iranian oil company, later British Petroleum Company. So when Mogad, Mosa Deg?

• 27:37Joe Rogan?

  I don't wanna say his name, I keep fucking him up. Uh, London saw it as a direct threat to its global power and profits. Elites feared that if Iran got away with nationalizing its oil, other countries in the Middle East would, uh, beyond, and beyond would copy, destroying western oil monopolies, so they were determined to make Iran an example. Look, bro, we've been monkeying around with other countries forever. This thing in Venezuela, this real quick thing that happened real quick, when they're in, kidnapped a dude in Venezuela, like...

• 28:06Speaker 02

  Well, a lot of it says because these are the countries that are still outside of the, um, Rothschilds banking system or whatever. Have you seen that thing?

• 28:12Joe Rogan?

  I have not.

• 28:13Speaker 02

  Where it's like, there's the, there's the countries that are still not on that list or something? This is tinfoil stuff, I think.

• 28:21Speaker 02

  Or it's absolutely true, I have no idea.

• 28:23Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot going on right now, right?

• 28:24Speaker 02

  I'm feared, dude, I'm scared, I'll be honest with you.

• 28:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you should be.

• 28:28Speaker 02

  I'm scared.

• 28:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's, it's a scary time, because this is a real hot war.

• 28:33Speaker 02

  People come up and people, uh, tell me about it. I was in an Uber yesterday, and there's a man in there. He was driving, and, um, he's like, "We need a revolution," you know?

• 28:44Joe Rogan?

  Oh, boy.

• 28:45Speaker 02

  He's like, "You have a voice," he's telling me stuff like that, and I was like, dude...

• 28:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no, don't take Ubers anymore, stop taking Ubers. Rent a car, motherfucker.

• 28:51Speaker 02

  I'm not renting a car?

• 28:54Joe Rogan?

  Why would you rent a car? You don't rent cars?

• 28:55Speaker 02

  Bro, you think I'm gonna go, be at the, renting a car is insane, you have to check under, see if there's any dents in it, if there's any like, and then, um, you have to do all this stuff? Renting a car is a nightmare. Dude, I will tell you this story though, one time we rented, we did rent a car. And we got a dent on it, like a pretty good dang, and we fucking, we had a, we caught a pigeon and had it shit over the dent to fill it in whenever we turned it in.

• 29:19Joe Rogan?

  No, you didn't. This is not a true story.

• 29:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, we did.

• 29:22Joe Rogan?

  You caught a pigeon?

• 29:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, you think it's hard to catch a pigeon?

• 29:25Joe Rogan?

  I do.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  Bro, bring up a pigeon getting caught.

• 29:29Speaker 05

  Mike Tyson had a lot of them.

• 29:30Speaker 02

  Bro, yeah, but he raised them.

• 29:31Speaker 05

  Well, you had to get them.

• 29:33Speaker 02

  He had fucking autism in his hands after a couple of years. You don't think, you think it's hard to catch a pigeon, the dumbest bird ever, dude?

• 29:40Joe Rogan?

  And you just put the shit over the dent?

• 29:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, you hang it over your...

• 29:43Joe Rogan?

  Hell of a shit. How big was this dent we're talking about?

• 29:45Speaker 02

  Dude, these fucking pigeons shit all day, Joe.

• 29:47Joe Rogan?

  So you just hold them there until they're done?

• 29:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, what, are you some kind of shit cop or whatever? Yeah, we fucking put him over the dent, bro. That's why God wants you to help. That's why insurance...

• 29:58Joe Rogan?

  Okay, this one's all fucked up, though, that's not fair.

• 30:00Speaker 02

  That's because he has American healthcare, it's United Healthcare.

• 30:05Speaker 02

  Dude, well, here's what I wanna know, like, I'm, I guess, yeah, like, yeah, I don't know, man, everybody just feels scared and it makes things scary.

• 30:11Joe Rogan?

  Well, they should, because a lot of things are getting exposed right now, you know, there's a lot of fraud and you're seen at the highest levels of government. And people are also scared because no one's getting in trouble for things, like, no one's getting in trouble for the Epstein files, no one's getting in trouble for...

• 30:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's almost disappeared, kind of.

• 30:28Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's part of what happens when there's some sort of a big social thing, one thing that's in the past that leaders have used to cover up problems at home is a fucking war, not saying that that's why they bombed Iran, but that would be a way to do it. If you're that psychotic, you know, and if you were thinking about doing it anyway, you might be able to justify it. People have always done that also to stay in power.

• 30:54Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 30:56Joe Rogan?

  And even Bill Clinton said that about Netanyahu, Bill Clinton said Netanyahu wants war so he could stay in power.

• 31:01Speaker 02

  For sure, dude, people call him the Yarmulke Hitler.

• 31:04Joe Rogan?

  Who's, who are these people?

• 31:05Speaker 02

  Everybody does.

• 31:06Joe Rogan?

  Which people?

• 31:07Speaker 02

  Countless.

• 31:07Joe Rogan?

  People?

• 31:08Speaker 02

  Huh?

• 31:08Joe Rogan?

  What are you saying?

• 31:09Speaker 02

  What do you mean people, you talking about?

• 31:10Joe Rogan?

  What are you talking about, dog?

• 31:12Speaker 02

  Black folk, what are you saying?

• 31:13Joe Rogan?

  No! I don't know what you're saying.

• 31:14Speaker 02

  I don't know what you're saying.

• 31:15Joe Rogan?

  I don't know what you're saying.

• 31:16Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 31:16Joe Rogan?

  Let's not draw conclusions.

• 31:18Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah.

• 31:19Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 31:19Speaker 02

  He seems like a great guy.

• 31:20Joe Rogan?

  No, not really.

• 31:22Speaker 02

  Well, it's just a scary time.

• 31:24Joe Rogan?

  It's a scary time because people are willing to blow people up with fucking drones and missiles and they're shooting into apartment buildings and blowing up schools and it's like, fuck, man.

• 31:34Speaker 02

  And we didn't, I think that we've been poisoned, I do think that we've been poisoned.

• 31:39Joe Rogan?

  How so?

• 31:40Speaker 02

  Because I think that, like, we find out that our food is, a lot of our food is poisonous, right?

• 31:45Joe Rogan?

  A lot of our food's not good for us.

• 31:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, sorry, not good for us.

• 31:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 31:48Speaker 02

  So we have a healthcare, we have food that is made to be not good for us, and then we have a healthcare system that'll just kind of take care of you, right? Barely. So then you start to create this other, like, you're gonna need your autism gang that are up there running shit, but then you're gonna need this sort of like mollusk-y sort of like, the worker bees, and that's what the rest of us start to become is worker bees because, you know, your antidepressants kill... Like the vibe and the energy of so many people, right? Like the opioid epidemic, like you you broke apart so many families and ruined hope and so many like kids and parents and homes and like um the the uh the covid where you shut down recovery rooms and places where people were meeting and so they were so disconnected.

• 32:32Speaker 02

  And then it's like you just, you start to wonder why there's no uprisings because there's no there's nothing rising up inside of you anymore because a lot of your your vitral has been killed. People are jerking off into fucking robots and even just on car batteries and shit in some of those videos online, but

• 32:48Joe Rogan?

  Car batteries?

• 32:49Speaker 02

  People will come on everything.

• 32:50Joe Rogan?

  What happens when you hit the the two posts?

• 32:52Speaker 02

  I don't know, dude.

• 32:55Speaker 02

  Does your jizz explode?

• 32:57Joe Rogan?

  Probably gotta be grounded, I would have to guess.

• 32:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a real fucking

• 33:00Joe Rogan?

  You don't want that jolt coming back to the tip. Imagine if it was like one solid stream and electricity jumped. Made it back to the tip.

• 33:10Speaker 02

  But dude, that could happen too with that robot if you're trying to hump that robe.

• 33:13Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 33:13Speaker 02

  And that thing shorts out.

• 33:14Joe Rogan?

  Phones short out. You remember those uh those old phones that would blow up in people's cars like the note? It was one of the note series? Like people's cars would catch on fire if you left it plugged in?

• 33:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what if that happens to your dick?

• 33:27Speaker 02

  And people would always

• 33:29Joe Rogan?

  You know what I'm saying?

• 33:31Speaker 02

  And people would just always leave it plugged in next to their wife at night for fucking no reason.

• 33:35Joe Rogan?

  Right, on top of your wife?

• 33:36Speaker 02

  It just balanced it on her.

• 33:38Joe Rogan?

  Burst in flames and lights are on fire.

• 33:40Speaker 02

  But dude, you know what?

• 33:41Joe Rogan?

  Successor.

• 33:42Speaker 02

  I I think we've been poisoned just enough to like, it feels like just to hurt, but not like we just have to start, I think it's a time where like we have to try and work on our and like look inside of ourselves and I don't know, do I sound fucking preachy? I'm sorry.

• 33:57Joe Rogan?

  No, you don't sound preachy, but you are, I think you're on to something. There was some file, I didn't read it, but a bunch of people sent it to me. I just went, oh, Jesus. It was from the some Freedom of Information Act or some leak from the nineteen fifty's

• 34:13Speaker 02

  Fifty's and sixty's, I saw this.

• 34:14Joe Rogan?

  With the CIA and they were trying to think of different ways to make people docile and stupid and unmotivated.

• 34:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:23Joe Rogan?

  And they were talking about different medications, putting stuff in food, all these different strategies to keep people stupid.

• 34:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:31Joe Rogan?

  Like this is our own government.

• 34:35Joe Rogan?

  Us, United States of America.

• 34:37Speaker 02

  Well, that's another thing.

• 34:38Joe Rogan?

  Is that not treasonous?

• 34:39Speaker 02

  I agree. So why, and yeah, it just feels like there's no recourse. And I know, like, you start to think, well, this is how a lot of people have lived their entire centuries in different countries and stuff like that, like, they live under this type of oppression and like fear all the time. But it feels new here.

• 34:55Joe Rogan?

  I want to know what exactly, could you put that into our lovely sponsor, Perplexity, and find out what the fuck was said in that CIA document? What were they actually planning? Because it's, the idea that there's people in government that would just say, "Fuck millions of people and their potential in life."

• 35:14Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 35:15Joe Rogan?

  "Let's tank their potential so that we can get our agenda through easier, without them being upset." "Let's ruin millions of people's lives, or at least dampen their dreams." "Squash their hopes, make them stupid and lazy."

• 35:31Speaker 02

  Make their kids sick, make their, yeah, make it, put pornography and let it be into the homes so that it's accessible everywhere, so marriages get ruined, and relationships get ruined, and guys are just spunking out on wherever, and so they don't, so there's no energy, there's no like, there's no fucking desire inside of people to overcome, and it's like, yeah, we have to just try and do better, one day at a time.

• 35:52Joe Rogan?

  For men, like, their ambition in life is often connected to wanting girls to like them.

• 35:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:59Joe Rogan?

  Or guys to like them, whatever it is.

• 36:00Speaker 02

  And purpose, creating.

• 36:02Joe Rogan?

  But that's the other part. Purpose and creating is like the ultimate. That's like, the ultimate is, it's almost like you're doing a service. Like, whatever you're doing, if you're doing it your best, your real reward is that people enjoy it.

• 36:17Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 36:17Joe Rogan?

  Whatever it is. Whether you're a carpenter, or a musician, or whatever it is. If you're doing something at your best,

• 36:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:24Joe Rogan?

  the ultimate reward is people enjoying it.

• 36:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:26Joe Rogan?

  That's the ultimate enjoyment. But you, you have to figure that out in life. You're probably thinking of declassified CIA, mind control and behavior modification, experiments like Bluebird, Artichoke, Artichoke is it. That's it. Especially MKUltra, which did run in the 1950s and 60s. Okay, Bluebird, MKUltra, what is, make people stupid in cognition? Uh, CIA efforts to use drugs, hypnosis and other techniques, no, that's interrogation, that's different. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.

• 36:59Joe Rogan?

  Perfect concussion effort, often referenced alongside MKUltra explicitly explored using suboral blasts to erase memory. Whoa. Erasing or degrading memory is practically a way of disabling a person cognitively, even if that is not described as making them stupid in official language.

• 37:18Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, we're just, it feels like we're just stuck in an experiment.

• 37:21Joe Rogan?

  I feel like this is not it.

• 37:23Speaker 02

  This isn't it.

• 37:24Joe Rogan?

  No, this was, so why don't you run a search for recently disclosed CIA files to make people, I mean.

• 37:35Speaker 06

  I had docile in first and it didn't give me anything better.

• 37:39Joe Rogan?

  Um.

• 37:39Speaker 06

  I tried looking on Twitter.

• 37:41Joe Rogan?

  Well, okay, using, put in using vaccines to make people stupid.

• 37:48Joe Rogan?

  Or suggesting vaccines make people stupid.

• 37:52Speaker 06

  Uh, I hesitate now.

• 37:55Joe Rogan?

  Why?

• 37:55Speaker 06

  Because it's taking me to somewhere, talking about this on Facebook.

• 37:57Joe Rogan?

  Perfect, I love Facebook.

• 38:02Joe Rogan?

  But the conspiracy theorists are looking pretty sane right now. Okay, this is EV Magazine.

• 38:09Joe Rogan?

  Okay, what is going on here? You have to type in your email and they won't let you watch?

• 38:14Speaker 02

  But Joe, I don't think, what you're saying, the things you're saying, I don't think that, uh, that doesn't seem like an American idea to me.

• 38:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's not, it's okay, Jim, forget it. It's not an American idea.

• 38:24Speaker 02

  If you can find, is it okay?

• 38:25Joe Rogan?

  If you can find it, please do.

• 38:27Speaker 02

  Can you do Google too, or you can't do it?

• 38:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Just look everywhere.

• 38:31Speaker 02

  Dude, have you noticed some things are harder to find?

• 38:34Joe Rogan?

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• 39:54Joe Rogan?

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• 40:39Joe Rogan?

  I just gave some random lady my blood in the parking lot. Oh, no. She's gonna use that for a ritual. Good. Clone you, son. You're gonna have little baby Theos, like those little videos that pop up of us. Yeah. Dude, my favorite part of the video is at the end when you just kind of bounce out of your chair. Laughing so hard. Is this it? This is it.

• 40:58Joe Rogan?

  Okay, what does it say?

• 40:59Speaker 06

  Video of someone talking about Project Artichoke?

• 41:03Joe Rogan?

  What is product project, what does it say essentially? That's Kim Iverson. She's pretty good. White Iverson.

• 41:11Speaker 00

  Artichoke. So this says, look, we've got this grand idea of how we're basically gonna drug people and do all kinds of weird experiments on them to see if we could control their minds. These documents don't show that anything was actually done. It just shows that we've got these really crazy ideas and they're extremely unethical, inhumane, terrible, terrible ideas. The 1977 leak of documents say, oh yeah, well, actually the government did it. They did all of those terrible things they said they were doing in that previous memo. They did it. And now here's some of the archives that we have from when they did all of those terrible things. So, okay, these documents, special research for artichoke dated April 21st of 1952. The memo proposes developing long-term covert drugs that could be slipped

• 41:52Speaker 00

  into daily life. Drugs that were quote administered over considerable period of time, possibly being placed in food or water that caused either agitation or depression.

• 42:01Joe Rogan?

  Bloride.

• 42:02Speaker 00

  These should include chemicals or drugs that can be effectively concealed in common items such as food, water, Coca-Cola, beer, liquor, cigarettes, etc.

• 42:10Joe Rogan?

  Beer.

• 42:10Speaker 00

  And should also be capable of use in standard medical treatments such as vaccinations and shots. We can do all this other experimentation, which nobody will know about. It's sneaky. Sneak it into their Coca-Cola, sneak it into their beer, their cigarettes, their vaccines, their medications. Let's sneak it all in.

• 42:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 42:28Speaker 00

  Oh, those wild conspiracy theorists, they strike again. They have no morals. They have no ethics. They have no humanity. These documents, I mean, these people are inhumane. They're sick. They're twisted. This is terrible.

• 42:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Way to go, Kim Iverson. She killed it. She, she used to be on, which show was she on? Not Breaking Points. What was the show that they did before Breaking Points? Kim Iverson? It wasn't 227, was it? She got booted off because Fauci was coming on and she wanted to question Fauci about the COVID vaccines. And they kicked her off the show and she went independent. Good for her. Which is how it always goes. Yep. Yeah, you can't, you can't talk too much shit. Even though it's pretty obvious that guy's a criminal. Pretty fucking obvious that guy's a liar, lied in front of congress, was responsible for gain-of-function research that led to who knows how many fucking people dying of a man-made disease, whatever, whatever, just don't question. You can't work here anymore. You're not playing ball.

• 43:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:26Joe Rogan?

  You're not playing along. Like, look, but now she can do stuff like this.

• 43:28Speaker 02

  Good for her.

• 43:29Joe Rogan?

  That's nuts that your tax dollars pay for that. Them figuring out how to make people stupid. How do I make Theo stupid? Let me slip something into his Coca-Cola. Let's figure out if it works. Let's experiment on random people and see what kind of results we get.

• 43:43Speaker 02

  Then here's my question then, how, well, did you know whenever they, uh, whenever they introduced antidepressants, that changed like the cognitive, um, therapy side of things, like in therapist's office, it totally revolutionized, like industrialized, uh, therapy and it ruined, it ruined a lot of people, I think. Like, um, one of my goals is to get off of antidepressants completely, man. I wanna feel how I'm supposed to feel so I can have thoughts and actions that, uh, that like make me feel connected to the world. That shit makes you feel dead, man.

• 44:16Joe Rogan?

  So why did you take them in the first place?

• 44:18Speaker 02

  Cause I was in a bad relationship twenty years ago and I was having a tough day at, at school and they fucking put, they gave them to me and then I never got off.

• 44:28Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 44:28Speaker 02

  Because when you get off, it's that, I think we talked about this once, it's hard.

• 44:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it makes you more depressed, more fucked up and you're all in balance and you're, you know, probably you're addicted to them.

• 44:38Speaker 02

  Yeah. And so that's one of my goals is, and I noticed like, um, for me, I've been taking like methyl blue, I've been doing some things like, and I'm working with a doctor to help me, but I wanna, I'm gonna get there. And I'm just gonna start to take the power back of myself more.

• 44:51Joe Rogan?

  Well, they say that exercise is like many times

• 44:55Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 44:55Joe Rogan?

  greater in its effect at alleviating depression.

• 45:00Speaker 02

  Dude, I wake up and I do my yoga and I do like a thirty-five minute workout. I'll do like six exercises, five runs of it in a row. That's thirty exercises, burn through them bitches and I'm a, and I'm, if I do that when I get up in the morning, bro, I am good.

• 45:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 45:16Speaker 02

  I'm fine all day and I'm also po, I'm more positive cause I've already taken care of myself in a way that I feel is sufficient enough for me to keep operating and moving forward. But, yeah, I wanna get away from the me-

• 45:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's the medicine, man, which is really crazy. That's the medicine. It's just hard for people to take because it requires effort. And it requires discipline, you have to do it when you don't wanna do it. And there's a lot of times where you're not gonna wanna do it. A lot of times you're feeling kinda fucking tired.

• 45:44Speaker 02

  We have to, and I think that's what, yeah, maybe we just, yeah, like, I just need to, I just need to keep going. This is the best I've been doing, I think.

• 45:51Joe Rogan?

  Why don't you hire a trainer? You got some cheddar. You got some cash, son, you making that paper. Why don't you hire a trainer?

• 46:01Speaker 02

  I do, I, I.

• 46:02Joe Rogan?

  Hire a dude that's cool, that'll come over your fucking house every day. He doesn't have to touch your body.

• 46:08Speaker 02

  Joe, some of them do.

• 46:09Joe Rogan?

  Well, you gotta get new ones. They're doing something wrong.

• 46:12Speaker 02

  But some of them.

• 46:13Joe Rogan?

  You gotta say no.

• 46:14Speaker 02

  I am saying no.

• 46:15Joe Rogan?

  Repeat after me, no.

• 46:17Speaker 02

  No.

• 46:18Joe Rogan?

  Don't touch my butt when I'm in a deep squat, it doesn't help.

• 46:21Speaker 02

  I don't like that song.

• 46:23Joe Rogan?

  I'm gonna take your asshole, that's gonna make you wanna explode to the top, ready, go! He's knuckle deep in your bung hole, trying to convince you that it's, so you can get more reps.

• 46:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:35Speaker 02

  He's fucking, oh.

• 46:38Joe Rogan?

  That's gotta happen, like, fucking big, jacked, gay trainer, like, praise on guys that are kinda weak with small hips.

• 46:45Speaker 02

  He's like, I bet you can't do this with your, with my cock in your butt, and you're like, that's a crazy, who cares?

• 46:50Joe Rogan?

  Why are you suggesting this?

• 46:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, but the crazy part is, dude, I, I had a trainer one time, if you were doing like a dumbbell press, he would kinda squat you from, he would, he would help you from the elbows, kinda.

• 47:01Joe Rogan?

  Okay, that's fine.

• 47:01Speaker 02

  But when I noticed this one time.

• 47:03Joe Rogan?

  He rubbed his dick right on your butt.

• 47:05Speaker 02

  No.

• 47:06Joe Rogan?

  Did he? He was right behind you.

• 47:07Speaker 02

  No, he didn't, I don't know.

• 47:09Joe Rogan?

  You're blocking it out. Maybe that's why you need therapy.

• 47:11Speaker 02

  I don't know, bro.

• 47:15Speaker 02

  Dude, if some, I, I know all the dicks I've ever seen in my life, dude.

• 47:19Joe Rogan?

  All of them?

• 47:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:20Joe Rogan?

  How many have you seen? Jesus Christ.

• 47:22Speaker 02

  Honestly? Alive and in person?

• 47:26Joe Rogan?

  Jamie could count them on one hand. Jamie's only seen a handful of dicks, and two of them are Aries.

• 47:32Joe Rogan?

  Ari's pissed in fucking kombucha bottles in this room so many times. He is such an animal.

• 47:39Speaker 02

  He is kombucha, he has kombucha in him, I feel like, dude.

• 47:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's all kombucha. He doesn't piss anymore, it's fermented already.

• 47:44Speaker 02

  No, but this guy would touch my elbow and he would kinda like, he would do a slight like massage on him and that's when it kinda cooked me up. You got a vape in you by chance, Joe, or no?

• 47:52Joe Rogan?

  No. We got this. You want a cigar? We got smelling salts. You want a cigar?

• 47:57Speaker 02

  No, they make me sick.

• 47:59Joe Rogan?

  They do?

• 47:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, it makes me feel sad.

• 48:01Joe Rogan?

  Sad?

• 48:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:02Joe Rogan?

  No, I gave up on those. Nicotine vapes are very addictive.

• 48:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:06Joe Rogan?

  Boy.

• 48:07Speaker 02

  I know, I'd give it-

• 48:08Joe Rogan?

  They make you gra- they grab, you grab for them. You wanna take a hit off of them. You know, even if you'd, I'd, and I decided at one point in time, I'm not taking these anymore. I'm stopping with these.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  Oh, I remember, dude. Remember you and I were using them one time?

• 48:19Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 48:19Speaker 02

  We kept using that thing and yeah, oh dude-

• 48:22Joe Rogan?

  There's something in them. It's not just the nicotine.

• 48:24Speaker 02

  I'll tell you a story, son.

• 48:25Joe Rogan?

  Because like, these things, like Alps, I have no problem not taking these. I, I went on a trip, like a ten day trip, I didn't bring any nicotine pouches, I didn't miss it at all. I was fine.

• 48:36Speaker 02

  Well, I'll say this-

• 48:37Joe Rogan?

  But not those vapes, dude. Those vapes call you.

• 48:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, some of that shit's a lot, bro.

• 48:41Joe Rogan?

  They call you.

• 48:42Speaker 02

  But, yeah, you gotta kinda manage it or whatever, bud.

• 48:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you ain't managing shit, son.

• 48:50Speaker 02

  You're right.

• 48:52Joe Rogan?

  You're right about that.

• 48:54Speaker 02

  Okay, girl.

• 48:55Joe Rogan?

  Okay. No, I think out of all the things that are, you know, not a drug-drug, but, you know, nicotine's kind of a drug, but, you know, obviously could be totally functional on it, that's the one in the vapes that's the most addictive.

• 49:08Speaker 02

  And, and it, but, yeah, you're talking about like recreational type, not like antidepressants, things like that.

• 49:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, of course. Not like cocaine or, you know.

• 49:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:17Joe Rogan?

  But, but here's the thing about them, man, they're only good for one hit.

• 49:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:20Joe Rogan?

  It's the first hit of the day. The first hit off a vape is fucking wonderful.

• 49:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:25Joe Rogan?

  You're like, ah.

• 49:27Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. I'll blow that smoke on your mother, son.

• 49:29Joe Rogan?

  Nature just shines down upon you, just feel relaxed, but it's only one. After that, you're just chasing that dragon and you, you keep, you're not getting anything out of it.

• 49:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:40Joe Rogan?

  Every time, you're just getting like nervous, like, ah, and you're like hitting it again, ah, your fucking hands are shaking. You go too far, but you don't get that one feel. It's the same thing with a cigarette. With a cigarette, really what you want is the first couple of hits.

• 49:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:55Joe Rogan?

  And you get that lightness of head, like, ah, and then put them down. Yeah. The problem is, you're always chasing that dragon and you never get it. That's why everybody loves the first cigarette of the day. They sit there with that first cigarette of the day and a cup of coffee and they're like,

• 50:09Joe Rogan?

  "I got ideas." Yeah. Like, "I got fucking ideas." Write this down, write this down. You know, a lot of bands wrote most of their music on cigarettes. Like, Tony was talking about Pink Floyd. Dude, Declaration of Independence people were already hitting cigarettes back then. For sure, they were smoking tobacco. Yeah, I don't know if they did pipes or what have you back then. I wonder when the cigarette was invented. Because if you think about it, like, pipes and cigars, you don't inhale. You just take it in your mouth. But cigarettes, you like, take into your lungs. I wonder when the first dude figured that you gotta like, suck it all in. Oh. To get a full hit. Probably, yeah, for sure. He wanted to suck everything. Oh. Cigarettes, bananas, what have you.

• 50:50Speaker 06

  They were smoking cigarette, uh, this is drinking smoke? When Christopher Columbus and his crew discovered indigenous people in the Caribbean.

• 50:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you mean Christopher Columbus was, or the indigenous people were?

• 51:01Speaker 06

  They observed indigenous people in the Caribbean, in quotes, "drinking smoke."

• 51:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 51:06Speaker 06

  But this isn't going back, that's exactly why I brought it up.

• 51:09Joe Rogan?

  Drinking and smoking. Chris Coe was off that shit, bro. He was off that shit, for sure. Bro, did you ever read the things that Christopher Columbus did when they came to America? He was a boss, I heard. He was an evil man, dude. Was he? Oh, my god. They would cut people's arms off if they didn't bring them the right amount of gold. They were killing babies. Like, they did some horrific shit, man. Huh. They did horrific shit to the people that they found. Because they found these people had gold. And, you know, they... Like, if you think about how crazy it is that Mexico speaks Spanish. You know how crazy that is? You know how crazy it is? That's so far away from Spain. Oh, that's a good point.

• 51:51Joe Rogan?

  They all speak Spanish and they're Catholic. Gee, where do you think that happened? Cortez. Yeah. That motherfucker showed up in the 1500s with like, 600 dudes and 12 muskets. They had like, 12... They didn't even have musket rifles. They had musket pistols. He was a boss. And they took over the whole fucking country.

• 52:11Speaker 02

  I know, do you-

• 52:11Joe Rogan?

  Kind of crazy. Like, if you think about all these years later, they all speak Spanish now.

• 52:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:17Joe Rogan?

  That's nuts.

• 52:18Speaker 02

  Well, do you think we could do something like that now? Like, what do you think's gonna happen, Joe?

• 52:22Joe Rogan?

  With Iran?

• 52:23Speaker 02

  No, just with, I mean, like, I feel like the shit that's happening out there is gonna come here eventually.

• 52:28Joe Rogan?

  Well, most certainly will. Yeah.

• 52:30Speaker 02

  You know?

• 52:30Joe Rogan?

  I mean, if, uh, Homeland Security doesn't stop it in its tracks, and they're doing a great job of preventing a lot of them, you know, there's a lot of things that they catch that you don't even hear about, that are like terror cells that they infiltrate and... But they know there's people in this country. That was the most fucked up thing about people being all nonchalant about the border being wide open for four years.

• 52:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:55Joe Rogan?

  Because men of military age entered into this country from foreign countries, and we have no idea why. We don't know if they're just honest people, looking to make a better life for them and their families, send money back home. That'd be best-case scenario, but that's not all of them. So what percentage of them are terrorists? What percentage of them, there's not, it's not zero. It ain't zero.

• 53:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. But what also, it's like, it's all just a cat and mouse game. People are like, "Well, like the Democrats next time," it's like... But it's all the same shit has been happening forever. They haven't been helping anybody forever. They're letting fucking politicians slurp on kids. All of our fucking money goes to Israel, and they're using it to fucking genocide people. It's like, everybody is scared out of their wits right now. It's like, our religious leaders are afraid to speak out, and it's like the... It's a time where it's like Satan is amongst us, and our religious leaders are fucking talking about bullshit at the pole. It's just like, what is going... I don't know, man.

• 53:51Joe Rogan?

  We gotta get you off of there, and I depress and sun, you're losing your fucking marbles.

• 53:54Speaker 02

  You think I am?

• 53:55Joe Rogan?

  Come hang out with us. Just chill out.

• 53:56Speaker 02

  I'm here!

• 53:57Joe Rogan?

  Just chill out at the mothership tonight.

• 53:58Speaker 02

  I do have to pee in a little while, but...

• 54:00Joe Rogan?

  You can pee.

• 54:00Speaker 02

  I'm gonna pee in a minute, man.

• 54:01Joe Rogan?

  We'll let you.

• 54:02Speaker 02

  But no, people are just scared, dude. This is shit that I hear from people.

• 54:05Joe Rogan?

  They won't let you pee until you give them your guns.

• 54:08Speaker 02

  Really?

• 54:08Joe Rogan?

  That's how they're doing it now.

• 54:10Speaker 02

  But what if you have to wash the blackface off the president? Can you fucking use a little bit of piss to do that?

• 54:14Joe Rogan?

  You know, Canada had this big-

• 54:15Speaker 02

  That dude.

• 54:16Joe Rogan?

  They had this big gun thing, this law they passed where they made a bunch of guns illegal. And they found that only, I think it's less, it's a very small percentage of people. I think it's somewhere in the neighborhood. Find out what percentage of people have complied, but I think-

• 54:30Speaker 02

  They don't have any guns.

• 54:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they do. Yeah, they do. They did, they used to. Well, a lot of hunters up there, for sure. But there's a lot of recreational guns and handguns and self-defense weapons that people had that they recently made during Castro's kid, when he was running the country. When they, uh, recently made this ban.

• 54:48Speaker 02

  I got to meet Castro one time, did I tell you that?

• 54:51Joe Rogan?

  No. I want to hear that, but one second. But data provided by Public Safety Canada shows that of March 27, 32,406 people signed up to participate in the program. They declared a total of 57,540 firearms, roughly 42% of what was projected. But they were talking about, oh, you know who has it on his page is, uh, Coleon Noir. He has it. Here, I'll send it to you because-

• 55:17Speaker 02

  We gotta do this in Memphis, dude.

• 55:20Joe Rogan?

  It's kind of crazy.

• 55:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can't let them take away your weapons.

• 55:25Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 55:25Speaker 02

  Because how will you fight?

• 55:27Joe Rogan?

  Uh, how will you fight? That's a very good question. Yeah, I saw Coleon's video. Here it is.

• 55:35Joe Rogan?

  Nah, yeah, this is it. Here, play this.

• 55:39Speaker 02

  Type shit right here.

• 55:40Speaker 07

  For Miss Response? Cool. We're sending police to your house.

• 55:44Speaker 08

  The declaration period for firearms owners is scheduled to end next week. So far, only 2.5% of the estimated 2 million affected firearms have been declared.

• 55:52Speaker 02

  2%.

• 55:52Speaker 08

  And 98% of firearms owners haven't made a declaration.

• 55:55Speaker 07

  Canada banned 2,500 types of firearms. Gave gun owners until March 31st, essentially today, to declare them. One week before the deadline? 2.5% compliance. 2-

• 56:06Speaker 02

  Fuck yeah.

• 56:06Speaker 07

  2.5. That's not a slow rollout. That's a full-on rejection.

• 56:10Speaker 08

  So if they're not declaring by next week, what's your plan, Minister?

• 56:13Speaker 09

  The plan we have is as of March 31st, the, uh, time- To complete the enrollment will be will be done. And then the RCMP and other agencies will be available throughout the spring and the summer to do the collection.

• 56:32Speaker 07

  The collection?

• 56:33Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 56:34Speaker 07

  Like he's speaking about dry cleaning, not firearms, not property that belonged to law-abiding citizens before the government decided it didn't anymore.

• 56:41Speaker 08

  So Minister, you're saying that RCMP members, we just heard an order to general report saying we're short thirty four hundred members, we're dealing with a wave of violent crime across this country. And you're saying that your plan is over the spring and the summer to deploy RCMP officers to go door to door to firearms owners and seize their firearms?

• 56:57Speaker 09

  So this is a voluntary program, Mr. Lloyd, as you're aware. And the RCMP resources and the resources we will use with law enforcement does not contemplate in any way using existing resources. These are additional resources. So these are those who are off duty, those who may be retired.

• 57:17Speaker 02

  Go back to it. They're gonna take retired people to go door to door. It's like their new ICE.

• 57:22Speaker 08

  Police officers door to door because frankly, many police forces across the country are refusing to participate in your program.

• 57:28Speaker 07

  And here's the part that should make your jaw hit the floor. The Minister of Public Safety, the guy running this entire program, was secretly recorded saying the gun grab isn't worth the money.

• 57:37Speaker 10

  The Minister of Public Safety accidentally told the truth and he was recorded doing it. He said that the gun grab is not worth the money.

• 57:46Speaker 11

  He doubts local police will have the resources to enforce the Liberals mandatory gun buyback program and says the reason the Prime Minister is sticking with the policy is to appease voters in Quebec.

• 57:55Speaker 07

  He privately admitted the police can't even enforce it. He said they're doing it to win votes.

• 58:01Speaker 02

  In the screenshot, look at his face behind him. They picked the worst face. Go back to his name. Go back to his name. If you can, it was Ananana Dediti.

• 58:09Joe Rogan?

  Whatever his name is. I want him to go door to door. You go door to door, bitch. You go door to door, bitch. You wanna do that? How about you do it? He's talking about getting retired people to go door to door and take people. You're gonna get someone shot, stupid.

• 58:22Speaker 02

  Well, it's just like our draft now. They're like, now it's forty two, now it's forty seven.

• 58:25Joe Rogan?

  And you could have a marijuana arrest now.

• 58:28Speaker 02

  They're letting anybody in that bitch.

• 58:29Joe Rogan?

  Little weed, what's the big deal?

• 58:33Joe Rogan?

  Come on.

• 58:34Speaker 02

  But dude, here's the, here's the, here's the part to me that's like, you start to see like the uh, chink in the armor or whatever, no offense anybody.

• 58:42Joe Rogan?

  You're allowed to say that, chink in the armor.

• 58:44Speaker 02

  But they know who I'm, they know who they think are, I'm not saying anything about that.

• 58:47Joe Rogan?

  I know you're not, but the people think that.

• 58:50Speaker 02

  I'm not.

• 58:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I hear you.

• 58:52Speaker 02

  But they, but yeah.

• 58:53Joe Rogan?

  You can't say spick and span anymore either.

• 58:55Speaker 02

  You can't say spick and span?

• 58:57Joe Rogan?

  Well, you can, but you shouldn't.

• 58:58Speaker 02

  You gotta whisper it. Hey.

• 59:01Joe Rogan?

  That guy should be forced to go door to door. Go door to door in a bright orange vest with a circle in the center of it.

• 59:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was just gonna get his name, cause I wanted to say that guy's a pussy and go do your own shit. That fucking, that fricking little hunk.

• 59:14Joe Rogan?

  Doughboy?

• 59:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, that little fucking, that little.

• 59:16Joe Rogan?

  Sloppy.

• 59:17Speaker 02

  Bran muffin?

• 59:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Little sloppy muffin top?

• 59:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, get your, that's his name right there, Gary, and I'm gonna disagree.

• 59:26Joe Rogan?

  Ennan.

• 59:27Speaker 02

  That's what I said.

• 59:27Joe Rogan?

  Dasangari, Ennan Dasagari.

• 59:32Speaker 02

  Canada, they're gonna come for you next, but here's what, here's what's funny to me, Joe.

• 59:35Joe Rogan?

  That's such a crazy, you can't, you're not even grandfathering people in, mandatory gun confiscations. They just want people vulnerable.

• 59:45Speaker 02

  Of course, that's what we're saying, man.

• 59:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 59:49Speaker 02

  Joe, that's what we're saying, they want us all vulnerable.

• 59:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they do, they would much rather that, because look, what's the difference?

• 59:53Speaker 02

  But that's what's happening.

• 59:54Joe Rogan?

  What's the difference between America and everywhere else? One of the big differences, we're fucking heavily armed.

• 1:00:00Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:00:00Joe Rogan?

  That's one, why it's real, a real problem to try to take over America. And it's in our Declaration of Independence, it's in the Bill of Rights. It's like that, this, you know, the, the right to an armed militia. The right to keep and bear arms and to have an armed militia, like that's, what is the, and people are like, what is that for? Well, that's to keep you from being taken over by.

• 1:00:24Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:00:24Joe Rogan?

  Tyrants who have guns.

• 1:00:26Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, here's, here's one thing that's interesting to me is like RFK was on not long ago and he was saying that seventy-five percent, and it could be off by a few percent, of young men, uh, can't-

• 1:00:38Joe Rogan?

  Seventy-seven.

• 1:00:39Speaker 02

  Aren't eligible for military service.

• 1:00:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:40Speaker 02

  So this is the hilarious part to me now. Now they've poisoned us so much that the, the, they can't even, they don't even have healthy people to serve in the military, and now they're still, like, I feel like the, these powers that be are like in this tough spot now, we're like, fuck, we poisoned them too much.

• 1:00:56Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:00:56Speaker 02

  They can't even go spill their blood for us, you know?

• 1:00:59Joe Rogan?

  Well, they can't. I mean, there's enough that can.

• 1:01:02Speaker 02

  But they're widening these things. It's like with the ICE now, they're like, if you're sixty-five and like have decent vision, you can be an ICE, you know, they're letting, it just like, it kept getting bigger.

• 1:01:11Joe Rogan?

  ICE, you only have seven weeks of training.

• 1:01:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:15Joe Rogan?

  You think about, that's not even what you get in the police force. Yeah, it's crazy.

• 1:01:20Speaker 02

  We had more than that for fucking T-ball when I was a kid. And Mr. Rick, dude, remember when you had T-ball and your coach was just some dude who had a name, like, that's our coach, Rick.

• 1:01:29Joe Rogan?

  Just imagine this. Imagine if you had seven weeks of training and you had to go into a jujitsu tournament.

• 1:01:34Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:01:34Joe Rogan?

  You would get fucking smoked. You would get fucking smoked. You don't know what you're doing, you barely know what you're doing, you're gonna make a bunch of mistakes.

• 1:01:40Speaker 02

  Yes, I would, Joe.

• 1:01:41Joe Rogan?

  Seven weeks of training in that is even scarier because you're got, you got guns and you're going out in the street and you're arresting people.

• 1:01:49Speaker 02

  Yeah. That's, but it's, it's like, not, more than ever, it feels like theater. And it feels like it's been theater for a while. And it feels like, maybe this is crazy, but it feels like we're at the last cusp before something weird is gonna happen. Didn't you say something weird might happen, Jamie?

• 1:02:11Joe Rogan?

  Jamie's always saying that. Jamie's always, he's tuned in.

• 1:02:14Speaker 02

  Is he like that?

• 1:02:14Joe Rogan?

  Jamie's got an ear for weird.

• 1:02:16Speaker 02

  Even blacks are getting scared, though.

• 1:02:18Joe Rogan?

  For real?

• 1:02:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but they're more scared of like the Trump movement. You know totalitarianism and fascism. No?

• 1:02:27Speaker 02

  I think they're getting, you know. They see these ostracize, they see these communities of people out there getting abused and shit and I think it reflects in them somewhere, you know?

• 1:02:35Joe Rogan?

  You mean like with ICE? Is that what you're saying?

• 1:02:36Speaker 02

  No, with like, uh, like, you know, you see, you know, there's a lot of brown people getting murdered on fucking TikTok all the time, like, you know, in the Middle East and I think you see that and it makes them hyped up or, you know, it activates.

• 1:02:48Joe Rogan?

  Well, everybody should be upset about that.

• 1:02:50Speaker 02

  I agree, but I

• 1:02:51Joe Rogan?

  The idea that the only way to solve problems is by dropping bombs on people is, it's so crazy that's still the move in 2026.

• 1:02:59Speaker 02

  But I don't think it's all move.

• 1:03:00Joe Rogan?

  But however, if you are faced with an evil dictator that has his eyes on a global caliphate and is developing nuclear bombs. You can't be all fucking kumbaya, but the question is like, how did, how does that get resolved?

• 1:03:18Speaker 02

  Right, that's the question.

• 1:03:19Joe Rogan?

  How do you make sure, how can you even know?

• 1:03:21Speaker 02

  That's what I came to ask you.

• 1:03:22Joe Rogan?

  Capable of having nuclear weapons and for the last 20 years, they've been preparing and stockpiling missiles and developing, what is the? They have some crazy thing I was seeing online where it's like they almost like have a mountain and dug deep into the ground. They have these missile elevators. And like the missiles are like hidden deep into the ground where the only way you could destroy that facility is with like a nuke. And they just did it specifically knowing that they were gonna get bombed.

• 1:03:54Speaker 02

  Well, they had the, you know, they did Top Gun movie where Miles Teller flew in there. And then a year later, we did that in, or a few years later, we did that in, uh, Iran, like, isn't it kind of cra- like, it just, it all seems bizarre where they had to fire a nuke down, or they had to fire a missile down into the thing, remember?

• 1:04:12Joe Rogan?

  I didn't see that movie.

• 1:04:13Speaker 02

  It was good.

• 1:04:14Joe Rogan?

  I bet it was.

• 1:04:15Speaker 02

  It actually was good.

• 1:04:16Joe Rogan?

  I liked the first one.

• 1:04:17Speaker 02

  Oh, we made a movie too. I gotta tell you about our movie. I can't forget.

• 1:04:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's right. You made a movie.

• 1:04:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, I didn't mean to interrupt about it.

• 1:04:22Joe Rogan?

  But let's find out what.

• 1:04:25Joe Rogan?

  What was I asking before we moved on?

• 1:04:27Speaker 06

  Iranian missile thing?

• 1:04:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what is that elevator thing that they have? They have some underground, like, deep underground. Someone was explaining it online. They have a very unique method of protecting their missiles from being bombed. So they have, their storage is like, deep, deep underground. I think that's one of the things that they were just attacking recently. Like, we were dropping bombs on them recently.

• 1:04:52Speaker 02

  I don't think we're over there doing that for ourselves, though.

• 1:04:55Joe Rogan?

  Doesn't seem like it. Doesn't seem like it's in our best interest, you know?

• 1:05:00Speaker 02

  Why do you think, why do you think, then what, what is it that, like, Israel holds over America that we do those things?

• 1:05:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, first of all, there's a lot of people that donated to the Trump campaign that have significant influence over him.

• 1:05:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:12Joe Rogan?

  That lobby for Israel.

• 1:05:14Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:05:14Joe Rogan?

  And they're very beholden.

• 1:05:16Speaker 02

  So that's just capitalism, then, right?

• 1:05:18Joe Rogan?

  So IDF uncovers Iran missile mega cities.

• 1:05:22Speaker 02

  I don't believe anything they say.

• 1:05:24Joe Rogan?

  It's hard to know, because this is all AI, right?

• 1:05:26Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:05:27Joe Rogan?

  Is this real?

• 1:05:27Speaker 06

  It looked like it was, but...

• 1:05:28Joe Rogan?

  Is this real?

• 1:05:30Speaker 06

  Honestly...

• 1:05:31Joe Rogan?

  This looks AI.

• 1:05:32Speaker 02

  This shit ain't real.

• 1:05:33Speaker 06

  Some of it does look AI, but that video of those guys walk right through it is real.

• 1:05:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's so hard to know these days, man.

• 1:05:38Speaker 02

  If it's...

• 1:05:39Joe Rogan?

  It's so hard to know. You know, this is like, if I was Iran, I'd make a video like that. Look at all my bums. Look at my big cock. And look at my bums. Out of a big old dick. Big old dick, like a third leg, and a bunch of bums.

• 1:05:52Speaker 02

  I'm fucking sick of my dick.

• 1:05:54Joe Rogan?

  Really? Give it a break. Leave it alone for a couple days and you'll miss it.

• 1:05:59Speaker 02

  Oh, I've had a lot of thoughts on...

• 1:06:03Joe Rogan?

  Go on a vacation from your dick.

• 1:06:05Speaker 02

  Bro, there's times I wanted to just mail my dick to Africa or whatever.

• 1:06:08Joe Rogan?

  Don't.

• 1:06:09Speaker 02

  Just feed a couple...

• 1:06:09Joe Rogan?

  They'll never send it back.

• 1:06:10Speaker 02

  But I'm saying to feed a couple people.

• 1:06:12Joe Rogan?

  I don't think it'll feed a couple.

• 1:06:14Speaker 02

  Bro, it'll, dude...

• 1:06:16Joe Rogan?

  I don't even think it'll feed one.

• 1:06:17Speaker 02

  Get out of here, bro.

• 1:06:18Joe Rogan?

  Might keep him alive for a few hours.

• 1:06:20Speaker 02

  Bro, it would be lunch, at least lunch for two.

• 1:06:24Joe Rogan?

  Someone on a diet.

• 1:06:27Joe Rogan?

  Someone cutting weight for wrestling?

• 1:06:30Speaker 02

  Or that dude that tried to cut weight because he wasn't gay anymore, remember I told you about that dude?

• 1:06:37Speaker 02

  He lost forty pounds, dude, he was just fucking ribs and dick by the end of it, dude, that guy. I gotta pee really bad and I do real fast.

• 1:06:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, pause, pause, we'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, we'll be right back.

• 1:06:50Joe Rogan?

  Theo Von, David Spade, Bus Boys, in theaters April seventeenth. Did you finance this, dude? Did you fucking do this shit with your own money?

• 1:06:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:58Joe Rogan?

  You wild motherfucker, you. Wow.

• 1:07:01Speaker 02

  We wrote it and, yeah, we did it all. There's no studio attached to it, there's nobody-

• 1:07:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Tim Dillon's in it.

• 1:07:07Speaker 02

  Tim did a good job.

• 1:07:08Joe Rogan?

  He's awesome.

• 1:07:09Speaker 02

  He is awesome.

• 1:07:09Joe Rogan?

  He really is.

• 1:07:10Speaker 02

  He's my, uh, he's one of my favorites.

• 1:07:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, no doubt.

• 1:07:15Speaker 02

  He's one of a kind.

• 1:07:16Joe Rogan?

  Is that Nate Diaz?

• 1:07:18Speaker 02

  Bro, he was so-

• 1:07:19Joe Rogan?

  Is that Louis J?

• 1:07:21Speaker 02

  Uh.

• 1:07:22Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 1:07:22Speaker 02

  No, who's in it? Cam Patterson, Trevor Wallace.

• 1:07:26Joe Rogan?

  Nice, dude. What's it about?

• 1:07:28Speaker 02

  Um, it's about two guys and, uh, they're bus, they're just regular guys and they're not doing that good. And then, um, they think if they can, one of them loses his girlfriend to a waiter. And they think if they can become waiters, that they can get his girlfriend back. And, uh, they have to start at Bus Boys.

• 1:07:52Speaker 02

  And they don't get very far, so that's pretty much it.

• 1:07:56Joe Rogan?

  Well, it was crazy, dude. I mean, I think there's just like a thing about like, like, nobody, like, it's just, we made it ourselves.

• 1:08:01Speaker 02

  Like, we wrote it, we did it, there's no fucking, somebody saying, "I can't put this in it." Like, some of the streamers are like, "Nah, it's too edgy for us," or whatever. Fuck them then, you're out. You know what I'm saying? We're doing our own shit and so-

• 1:08:12Joe Rogan?

  Did you sell it to a movie distributor? How did you get it into movie theaters?

• 1:08:16Speaker 02

  We just, um-

• 1:08:19Joe Rogan?

  I don't know how any of that stuff works.

• 1:08:20Speaker 02

  I don't know either. We have a guy who's doing, handling some of the business side of it. My friend Ezra's handling some of the business side of it, he's great. And so he's been helping us out, uh, and gotten it into the theaters.

• 1:08:29Joe Rogan?

  Who directed it?

• 1:08:30Speaker 02

  Um, this guy Jonah Feingold, this, uh, guy out of New York, and, um, great guy, uh. And, yeah, we just, we asked our friends to help and it was, um- Yeah, I mean, it was ridiculous. We shot it right during like the fires, when the fires were happening in the Palisades.

• 1:08:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:08:47Speaker 02

  So it was like.

• 1:08:48Joe Rogan?

  You shot it in California?

• 1:08:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:51Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:08:52Speaker 02

  I don't know why exactly, but um, oh, because there was nothing shooting there. They don't shoot things there anymore.

• 1:08:56Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that crazy?

• 1:08:58Speaker 02

  Imagine people have been so greedy and fucking attacked, they fucked themselves so much they can't even fucking do their, the one thing that they're most known for Hollywood, they can't even fucking do it.

• 1:09:07Joe Rogan?

  It's so crazy.

• 1:09:08Speaker 02

  It's gross. It's not just crazy, but it's gross, though.

• 1:09:11Joe Rogan?

  It is gross. It's all the government. It's all government. It's all government policies, regulations, taxes, all the things that make it unprofitable to do business there. People just pulling up shop.

• 1:09:22Speaker 02

  And there's all these, yeah, there's so many guilds you have to pay, it's like, I don't see how these people, I don't see how like a a day-to-day actor could survive. And they don't, and they leave.

• 1:09:31Joe Rogan?

  A lot of guys are fucked. I was just watching this video with this guy. I've seen him in a ton of movies. And he's like, blue collar actors are just not doing well right now. He's like, I had to sell my house. You know, a lot of people are just going to television shows because there's no money in films anymore. He goes, I used to be able to make a living in films. And he's like, I didn't make a lot of money. Because he's just, you know, the guy has a small part in the movie here, a small part in the movie there. So he's getting by, and he gets to take his family to the movie and they get to see the dad on screen. It's cool. You know, he's paying his bills, doing well. But he's not getting wealthy, right? The stars get wealthy. But those dudes that you need, you know, the guy that plays the cop, the guy that plays this person, those guys are fucked.

• 1:10:14Speaker 02

  Well, I have the name of everybody that was in it, everybody that worked on it. If we have some success, I'm gonna go back and reward those people, man. And I'm excited about that. And um, and yeah, if people, even if it just does good, then we can make other stuff.

• 1:10:27Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:10:27Speaker 02

  And nobody can tell us that we can't.

• 1:10:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, once you do one that's good, then more people are interested in investing, you know, gets, you get your foot in the door.

• 1:10:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:36Joe Rogan?

  You do a Netflix series, you can do anything you want.

• 1:10:39Speaker 02

  And it's not like Dunkirk. I don't know if I want to really get into that much acting stuff, but it was just like. You know, I grew up watching David Spade. We got to do it together and we wrote, we just went through all of these hurdles and then like, uh, the fact that we got it done. Dude, I thought it was all emails till the first day I showed up on set and I was like, no fucking way. We were serious? People were serious about this?

• 1:11:00Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's crazy. He did it.

• 1:11:03Speaker 02

  But yeah, I think so. Yeah, something like that. I think there's something like that and, uh, and if people, if people can buy a ticket early to it, I don't want to sound, I'm not, I'm not desperate about it. If it does fine, that's cool. And if it doesn't, that's okay too. I feel happy that we got to do it.

• 1:11:18Joe Rogan?

  If it's funny, it'll do great because there's not a lot of that these days. There's not a lot of really funny movies.

• 1:11:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:24Joe Rogan?

  And I know it's gonna be funny.

• 1:11:25Speaker 02

  There's some parts that are really, really funny.

• 1:11:27Joe Rogan?

  I'm sure.

• 1:11:27Speaker 02

  It's not like Dunkirk or anything like that. It's not like Midsommar or whatever.

• 1:11:30Joe Rogan?

  What are those things that you just said?

• 1:11:32Speaker 02

  Those are just other movies. But it's, I don't want people going there thinking it's like, um, uh, like, uh, trying to think of, uh, Bridges of like-

• 1:11:44Joe Rogan?

  Bridges of Madison County?

• 1:11:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's nothing like that.

• 1:11:46Joe Rogan?

  It's a comedy. Nobody's gonna think it's that. No, it's you and David Spade. Who the fuck is gonna think it's Clint Eastwood and Meryl Streep?

• 1:11:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:53Joe Rogan?

  What's wrong with you?

• 1:11:54Speaker 02

  I don't know what people think.

• 1:11:57Speaker 02

  I don't know what people think or how they think. But yeah, anyway, but yeah, there's some fucking retarded stuff. It's just fun, dude.

• 1:12:03Joe Rogan?

  You know, he used to have a great joke about Bridges of Madison County? Chris McGuire. He had a fucking great joke.

• 1:12:08Speaker 02

  Dude, it's one of my favorite movies.

• 1:12:10Joe Rogan?

  Congratulations. Let me tell you his joke. His joke is about how, you know, it's hard to choose a movie with your girlfriend. Like she wants this and he goes, Bridges of Madison County. He's like, oh, Clint Eastwood's in it. He goes, Clint would never fuck me. And he goes, 10 minutes into the movie, he's like, hey, something's fishy. Clint doesn't have a gun. He goes, 20 minutes after that, Clint's crying like, ah, Clint, you fucked me. He goes, he's crying because he doesn't have a gun.

• 1:12:39Joe Rogan?

  Such a great joke.

• 1:12:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:40Joe Rogan?

  Shout out to Chris McGuire.

• 1:12:42Speaker 02

  Shout out to Chris McGuire. I haven't met him.

• 1:12:44Joe Rogan?

  You never met him?

• 1:12:44Speaker 02

  I haven't.

• 1:12:45Joe Rogan?

  Funny dude. We started out together way back in the dizay.

• 1:12:48Speaker 02

  Did you?

• 1:12:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he went the route of writing. He mostly writes and stuff now. But uh, was a funny comic, man. He's a good comic. But um, these fucking comedy movies are squashed. We were just talking about that last night in the green room. We're just like, it seems like The Hangover was probably the last gasp. And that was like 2009?

• 1:13:11Speaker 02

  But what happened? Like, how could you go that?

• 1:13:13Joe Rogan?

  People got scared.

• 1:13:14Speaker 02

  I don't know if they're scared.

• 1:13:15Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:13:16Speaker 02

  It seems organized to me.

• 1:13:17Joe Rogan?

  No, it's woke ideology.

• 1:13:19Speaker 02

  If we take comedy away from people, then they're not gonna be the laugh.

• 1:13:21Joe Rogan?

  They didn't think. They didn't think. It's woke ideology that's looking to yell at people for every

• 1:13:26Speaker 02

  Oh yeah.

• 1:13:27Joe Rogan?

  Transgression. And you can't have that with comedy. You can't have that kinda nonsense with a really funny movie. Like, something about Mary. Or, you know, Kingpin.

• 1:13:38Speaker 02

  Kingpin was good.

• 1:13:39Joe Rogan?

  Classic Farrelly Brothers movies. Oh, so good.

• 1:13:41Speaker 02

  How great was that?

• 1:13:42Joe Rogan?

  Great fucking movie. Great. God. Fucking movie. That movie's so good. So funny. Even to this day. Go back and re-watch it. Bill Murray with his crazy fucking hair, Woody Harrelson with one hand. It's a great movie, man. When he had to go down on that lady to pay his rent and he threw up in the toilet. Remember that scene?

• 1:14:01Joe Rogan?

  That movie's 30 years old now.

• 1:14:03Speaker 02

  Is it?

• 1:14:03Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy. That is crazy. 96. It's a banger of a movie, man.

• 1:14:08Speaker 02

  All the good shit's gone, dude, but it's

• 1:14:10Joe Rogan?

  It's not. It's not.

• 1:14:11Speaker 02

  That's true, is it? You're right. Sometimes I get in that attitude where it's like, I gotta stay out of those little moments. I usually get out of them pretty quick.

• 1:14:17Joe Rogan?

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• 1:16:17Speaker 02

  Dude, we shot this bitch in 23 days, dude. There was one day where the winds were like 50 miles an hour. I was like, we can't afford to be here another day. So suddenly in these scenes, there's just a ton of fucking wind, dude.

• 1:16:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's fine. That shit happens in the real world, right? Why can't it happen in your show?

• 1:16:33Speaker 02

  I agree. It was just, I think it was just interesting how it all worked out.

• 1:16:37Joe Rogan?

  People are making their own stuff. You know, I was talking to Shane about this last night. Cause you know Shane just wrapped up tires. This new season of Tires.

• 1:16:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he was, he fucking, he was telling me some hilarious scenes from Tires. I can't wait to watch it. But it's like that kind of a thing where just him and his buddies put together a show.

• 1:16:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:57Joe Rogan?

  You know, it's like his buddy's the writer and the director. All his buddies are on it. He, they all came up with the idea. They do it themselves. No one's looking over their shoulder. I asked him if like Netflix has any input. He's like, no, there's no input. They just make a show. They just make a show.

• 1:17:13Speaker 02

  That's fun.

• 1:17:14Joe Rogan?

  Give it to Netflix, bang. It's a beautiful time for stuff like that.

• 1:17:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're right. There's a new, it's a primavera, they say in Spanish. It's a springtime for new things.

• 1:17:24Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's an opening, right? And because there's no gatekeepers anymore, because they've essentially killed their own business, you can kinda do it on your own now.

• 1:17:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:17:34Joe Rogan?

  That's the beautiful thing. Like, you don't have to like sit in a room full of fucking executives that don't know jack shit. And they wanna give you direction on what's funny and what's not. And where's the diversity in your film?

• 1:17:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:17:44Joe Rogan?

  You know, "We think you should have a black trans friend", like, oh.

• 1:17:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, "We think you should have a faggot ant" or whatever, like the insect or whatever. And I'm like, "That's crazy." You're like, "This is a fucking..."

• 1:17:58Speaker 02

  You're like, "This is a script about drivers' ed", and they're like, "But you need an insect that's homoerotic."

• 1:18:04Joe Rogan?

  It's just, people got stupid. They got stupid with their virtue signaling in films, and you can't do that with art. You can't have, do you see what the Academy Award's doing? Like, in order to qualify to be nominated for an Academy Award now?

• 1:18:19Speaker 02

  Well, for the podcast thing, I know that they said we had to pay like a fee or something. I remember you talked about that.

• 1:18:23Joe Rogan?

  That's, that's a different, that's the Golden Globes.

• 1:18:26Speaker 02

  Okay, sorry.

• 1:18:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's a different thing, yeah. You didn't pay for that either, did you?

• 1:18:31Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:18:31Joe Rogan?

  Did they ask you to?

• 1:18:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:18:32Joe Rogan?

  Fuck yeah, dog. Give me some. Yeah, fuck off.

• 1:18:35Speaker 02

  He said, "So what?", yeah.

• 1:18:36Joe Rogan?

  Like, I don't...

• 1:18:37Speaker 02

  I was like, "If Joe Rogan, if you don't even have him in it, then what are you even making a thing?"

• 1:18:43Joe Rogan?

  That was also a reason why I didn't wanna be in it. Like, I don't wanna legitimize this. You guys have fucked up every other form of entertainment, and now you're gonna judge podcasting?

• 1:18:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, get fucked.

• 1:18:51Joe Rogan?

  And what did you pick? Look, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Amy Poehler's show. I haven't watched it. People love it. That's great. But she's like a famous lady who just started doing podcasting six months ago. And she's got the number one podcast. Like, have you guys ever listened to Radiolab? You know, you ever listen to like, there's some banging fucking podcasts out there. They might not be number one, but if your whole idea is like, pick the ones that are great, that are like really interesting, how stuff gets made, there's a bunch of fucking great podcasts out there.

• 1:19:18Speaker 02

  Smartless is cool.

• 1:19:19Joe Rogan?

  There's a bunch of great podcasts out there.

• 1:19:21Speaker 02

  Oh, dude, there's so many great ones, dude. Matt McCusker's, if you get to... How fun is he to listen to?

• 1:19:27Joe Rogan?

  He's fun. He's a good dude. I'm glad he's out here.

• 1:19:31Speaker 02

  He's a special dude, man.

• 1:19:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, very smart guy. You know?

• 1:19:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:35Joe Rogan?

  It's a, there's a lot of great podcasts out there. Tim Dillon's not on that list, fuck off.

• 1:19:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:40Joe Rogan?

  If he's not on that list, fuck off.

• 1:19:41Speaker 02

  Get fucked, dude.

• 1:19:43Joe Rogan?

  Get fucked. That is the one podcast I consistently listen to, Tim Dillon.

• 1:19:47Speaker 02

  That's awesome.

• 1:19:48Joe Rogan?

  His episode on the Epstein Files is one of the best fucking podcasts I have ever listened to. I was like clapping in my car at red lights.

• 1:19:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:57Joe Rogan?

  Just clapping like woo. It was, he was on fire. And it was the per-perfect combination of satire, honest, real facts, complete chaos, humor, wearing those goofy glasses, ranting like a maniac. It was amazing.

• 1:20:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, man, I do feel lucky that I've gotten to meet like just, that's one of the truest things I think through comedy, just getting to meet some, just some fun people, dude.

• 1:20:25Joe Rogan?

  We know some cool motherfuckers. We really do. We know some cool motherfuckers. We really do.

• 1:20:30Speaker 02

  And thanks, dude. Thanks for letting me come in here today, too.

• 1:20:32Joe Rogan?

  Come on, dog.

• 1:20:32Speaker 02

  And to spend time with you.

• 1:20:33Joe Rogan?

  Come on, dog.

• 1:20:34Speaker 02

  It's good. It just feels, things feel kinda scary out there.

• 1:20:38Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's a little also scary, I keep telling you this, because you're on your own out there. You're out there living in Nashville.

• 1:20:44Speaker 02

  I'm getting close to being here.

• 1:20:45Joe Rogan?

  Ain't a lot of comics out there, dog. I mean, Bargatze's out there, but he's always doing fucking stadiums on the road and shit.

• 1:20:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:52Joe Rogan?

  Like, you need to be around.

• 1:20:53Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm getting ready.

• 1:20:54Joe Rogan?

  The crew.

• 1:20:55Speaker 02

  Because I have to start to practice again. I'm taking my special in one month.

• 1:20:58Joe Rogan?

  Last night in the green room, it was Shane, Ron White, Tony Hinchcliffe, Brian Simpson, Hassan Ahmad, Derek Poston. We were just laughing and laughing. It was, it's so fun. And everyone's going on stage and fucking tearing it up. It was, it was exciting. It's like it's in the air, like something's happening here.

• 1:21:19Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:21:19Joe Rogan?

  And you see all these young guys coming in, these young women coming in, they're all fired up and they're all fucking prepared. And everybody's like really trying to fucking kill it.

• 1:21:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:28Joe Rogan?

  It's nice.

• 1:21:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, we got Christina Mariani, I'm doing a show tonight, she's on it. Dylan Sullivan, I think is.

• 1:21:33Joe Rogan?

  Dylan Sullivan's very fun, too.

• 1:21:35Speaker 02

  So I'm excited about that.

• 1:21:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they're both at the club all the time. It's a, it's a fun time for comedy, man. It really is. A real good time for comedy.

• 1:21:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:43Joe Rogan?

  And, uh.

• 1:21:44Speaker 02

  It's a special time.

• 1:21:45Joe Rogan?

  Comedy doesn't e-exist in a vacuum, you know, that's why I keep telling you.

• 1:21:49Speaker 02

  What does that mean?

• 1:21:50Joe Rogan?

  You don't want to be by yourself, man. Like, you ever go by yourself on the road and you have like opening acts you don't know?

• 1:21:56Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:21:56Joe Rogan?

  I used to hate, every now and then, I met some friends. Like, that's how I met Segura. I didn't know Segura until I worked with him on the road. So you do meet some cool motherfuckers occasionally, but it's like one out of ten, or one out of twenty.

• 1:22:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:09Joe Rogan?

  So you do all these gigs and you're lonely. You're just like on the road, and you go into libraries and shit, or bookstores, and you're like trying to watch something on TV and going to the gym, but you you feel completely disconnected to people until you get on stage. It's not as fun.

• 1:22:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:23Joe Rogan?

  It's like, you wanna be around a bunch of other comics that are your friends, and also you wanna hear their sets. You wanna watch them crush. You wanna go onstage already laughing. You wanna be laughing at what he just said when you get onstage.

• 1:22:35Speaker 02

  And feel the competition.

• 1:22:37Joe Rogan?

  It's inspiration more than it is competition.

• 1:22:40Speaker 02

  That's fair.

• 1:22:41Joe Rogan?

  So the problem with competition is someone has to lose.

• 1:22:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:44Joe Rogan?

  You don't want anybody to lose. Then no one has to lose. It's just these people doing well should inspire you to do well. They should light a fire under you.

• 1:22:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:54Joe Rogan?

  You can call it competition, but the problem with competition is one person wins, one person loses. That's not comedy. What comedy is, is that everybody wins. That's real. And that's not like bullshit talk to try to appear humble. The reality is, you win if everybody wins.

• 1:23:09Speaker 02

  You've always, well, that's one thing I've always admired. You've always been that way. Like, I'm gonna pick, I'm gonna yes, I'll support you how I can, you know? And you've always been that way about young comics, and, uh, yeah, I agree with you.

• 1:23:20Joe Rogan?

  People did it for me, man. They did it for me when I was coming up, and it helped me tremendously, and I try to pass it on times ten. It's, uh, between that and Kill Tony.

• 1:23:30Speaker 02

  Kill Tony's so fun, dude.

• 1:23:32Joe Rogan?

  It's such an important part of comedy. Like, having this place where you, all you need is a minute. You could've been doing comedy like just trying it out on the road and fucking, just like barely filling up a Friday night ten o'clock show, and and then you develop like one minute that just breaks through, and all of a sudden, you got a fucking career. You know, you got a career now.

• 1:23:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, there's young heroes that are being sprouted out of here. And even adult heroes, people that have been in it a while are getting here and finding their, finding just a new. You're right, it's like a-

• 1:24:03Joe Rogan?

  Guys like Adam Ray, Adam Ray's killing it now. Adam Ray was struggling. He was struggling, but he was a funny guy.

• 1:24:09Speaker 02

  Hard worker.

• 1:24:10Joe Rogan?

  Did, hard worker, never lost his ambition, never lost his focus, never lost his enthusiasm for it, never got bitter. Always friendly.

• 1:24:18Speaker 02

  Always.

• 1:24:19Joe Rogan?

  And just, he needed a show like Kill Tony to come around, and everybody like, oh my god, this motherfucker is talented.

• 1:24:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:25Joe Rogan?

  All those different characters that he does.

• 1:24:27Speaker 02

  I know, and that's a brave thing, so if you, if you've just done comedy, mostly stand-up, and then to try and go into a character, that's a kind of a, that's a, to, to, to me, that, that, that would feel very hard, so that's a brave thing that he does.

• 1:24:38Joe Rogan?

  But there's a few of those guys that really excel at that, and that's a special talent. Him and Donegan, especially. Kyle Donegan. He's so funny. And I always thought he was gonna make it with those face swaps. This shows you how the industry's so fucked up, okay? So he was doing those face swap shows on Instagram, right? And they're so funny. But one of the reasons why they're funny is because it's obviously fake. It's crude, like South Park. Like, it doesn't look real, so it doesn't freak you out at all, it looks so fake that it's funny.

• 1:25:09Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:25:10Joe Rogan?

  He went into Comedy Central, and they started using like, much more sophisticated face swap, which wasn't as funny, it was like creepy. And then, they cut the balls off of it. Like, he wanted to have one where Caitlyn Jenner was fucking Donald Trump. Caitlyn's like, yeah, baby, like, riding Trump, and they went, no, no, no, no, no.

• 1:25:28Speaker 02

  His Kardashian ones are so funny, he's a bastard. And even the Kardashians like him, I've heard.

• 1:25:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, look, they, they have a sense of humor, they have to. They have to have a sense of humor. They've been in the public eye for 20 fucking years with no talent whatsoever. Just getting attention, like, you, you gotta not take yourself too seriously if you hold that position. You know?

• 1:25:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:25:47Joe Rogan?

  Raking in dough.

• 1:25:50Speaker 02

  Raking in that dough. Their whole family, they should count as reparations, I feel like, though, that whole family, you know?

• 1:25:56Joe Rogan?

  You think?

• 1:25:56Speaker 02

  I think so.

• 1:25:59Speaker 02

  I think so.

• 1:26:01Joe Rogan?

  I'm gonna leave that alone.

• 1:26:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, same. I don't know if it was a good, I thought it was a joke. I don't know if, it is a joke, but I just, I don't think I said it right. Who gives a shit dude? The world's gonna end soon, so fucking get it out of your system.

• 1:26:12Joe Rogan?

  If it doesn't end, it's gonna change.

• 1:26:14Speaker 02

  That's what's scary dude.

• 1:26:15Joe Rogan?

  All those fucking eggheads on the spectrum are gonna be running everything.

• 1:26:19Speaker 02

  But do you feel like, does it like, like, cause yeah, this, this, I'll go back to this Uber driver, but it's just a guy who was talking to me and he's like, well, they're gonna give, you know, like, if like Waymos get a job, the Waymo can work all night. It can work 24 hours, right? So really you're taking away like four or five shifts from an actual, so you know what I'm saying? Like AI, if AI and tech advancement makes it so, you know, they're, they can do 50 people's jobs with a one robot.

• 1:26:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:49Speaker 02

  Then yeah, what happens to those 50 people? How will people survive? How will they be able to assure that their kid that they're raising and trying to teach positive things to? Will have a world to enact those things in?

• 1:27:00Joe Rogan?

  It's a very good question and it's a good question that gets even weirder when the government is responsible for all your money. So if the government has to give you money because there's no jobs left and if all this money's being generated by AI like Elon suggests, and you get universal high income, you gotta be really careful that that doesn't come with a bunch of rules, new rules, for your behavior, for social media posting, any kind of like, if they develop some sort of an app that tracks like your, your social credit score, that's when shit gets fucking super scary. If like they attach the amount of money you have to your social credit score.

• 1:27:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:27:41Joe Rogan?

  Which what they do in China.

• 1:27:43Speaker 02

  Well, did you see those flock cameras now? I think there's, are there some, there's this.

• 1:27:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:46Speaker 02

  And there's this thing in Florida where, uh, police officers, they were testing this somewhere and, um, and shout out police officers were doing their best, um, but, uh, where they were testing, when they pull somebody's identification, they can see their last few like bank transactions and stuff. So they kind of know who they're interacting with and what they've been up to.

• 1:28:09Speaker 02

  That seems like, what, what is that about?

• 1:28:11Joe Rogan?

  Well.

• 1:28:12Speaker 02

  It's all a little bit, it's like a centimeter here, a centimeter there.

• 1:28:15Joe Rogan?

  And they're trying to find out how you did the crime. They should have no access to your shit, especially police officers.

• 1:28:21Speaker 02

  I'm just saying.

• 1:28:22Joe Rogan?

  You're just people, and also, sometimes corrupt.

• 1:28:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:28:25Joe Rogan?

  Also, sometimes they steal money. Also, sometimes they sell drugs. Also, sometimes they fucking kill people for hire.

• 1:28:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:28:31Joe Rogan?

  Right?

• 1:28:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:28:32Joe Rogan?

  Jesus.

• 1:28:34Speaker 02

  I don't know, Joe, it just feels spooky out there.

• 1:28:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, the more power the government has over you, the worse you are off. That's just a fact.

• 1:28:42Speaker 02

  Well, every, it seems now like, most people are like, our government does not, obviously, is not here to help the people.

• 1:28:49Joe Rogan?

  Obviously.

• 1:28:49Speaker 02

  They've been compromised.

• 1:28:51Joe Rogan?

  That's true.

• 1:28:51Speaker 02

  So, isn't, are there any rules against when people, but we have, but the crazy part is, we are working to pay the taxes to keep them do, it's like.

• 1:29:00Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 1:29:01Speaker 02

  And that starts to make you feel sick.

• 1:29:03Joe Rogan?

  And they're not responsible for any of the fraud and waste.

• 1:29:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:29:06Joe Rogan?

  Like, there's so much fraud and waste, like, look at California, this motherfucker's trying to be president, after, who knows how much fraud and waste is involved in California?

• 1:29:16Speaker 02

  He wouldn't, I don't think he'd beat Spencer Pratt in a runoff, I don't think.

• 1:29:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, Spencer Pratt is running for mayor.

• 1:29:23Speaker 02

  Oh, I see.

• 1:29:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Uh, and I think he can win.

• 1:29:26Speaker 02

  Yes, good for him.

• 1:29:26Joe Rogan?

  He's actually good. He's like, what he's saying makes a lot of fucking sense, and he's uncovering a lot of fraud. But there's a lot, that Nick Shirley guy went down to California, and he's like, there might be a hundred times more fraud in California than I found in Minnesota, it's everywhere.

• 1:29:39Speaker 02

  He could go to every state and, I think, he could go ev- I, I just think this whole thing is just this drain, like, Tim Dillon said it, like, like, six months ago, he was saying, this is the, like, the bloated carcass, the inflation, this is the end of what is hap- like, you know?

• 1:29:55Joe Rogan?

  It's post-sarcity. There's so much money for stuff. Like, in California, there's an enormous amount of money that gets paid to people for just taking care of your relatives. So, you get paid to take care of your relatives, but there's no oversight.

• 1:30:08Speaker 02

  But fuck, dude, I've had some relatives, I'll pay you good money to take care of them bitches, boy.

• 1:30:12Joe Rogan?

  But no, they would pay you to take care of them.

• 1:30:16Joe Rogan?

  You would get paid to take care of your relatives. So, say if you take care of your mom.

• 1:30:20Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 1:30:21Joe Rogan?

  You could actually get paid for that by California.

• 1:30:23Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 1:30:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Which is odd.

• 1:30:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, I wonder, there's gotta be some other reason they're doing that.

• 1:30:30Joe Rogan?

  Fraud.

• 1:30:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:30:32Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of fraud in California. There's a lot of fraud everywhere. But this is what Elon talked about. He was talking about like Medicare and Medicaid fraud. He's like, it's hundreds of billions of dollars. And he's like, he didn't want to talk about it. It's like, I really worried that they would kill me.

• 1:30:47Speaker 02

  And when he says "they," who is it?

• 1:30:49Joe Rogan?

  Whoever's perpetuating this, perpetrating this fraud.

• 1:30:54Speaker 02

  Maybe that's what happens. Maybe some of these guys get into office, and they're like, "Look, we're gonna kill your family. We're gonna kill, this is all the things that are gonna happen, unless you play this game." Do you think that kinda stuff happens?

• 1:31:05Joe Rogan?

  I think it has happened, for sure.

• 1:31:06Speaker 02

  Cause it's crazy.

• 1:31:07Joe Rogan?

  To say it doesn't happen is pretty naive. I think House of Cards is probably really close to what the government's actually like. Go back and watch that show again.

• 1:31:15Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:31:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Kevin Spacey's an old-school dick-grabber, but damn, that motherfucker could act.

• 1:31:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:21Joe Rogan?

  He could act.

• 1:31:22Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:31:23Joe Rogan?

  And the writing on that show is fantastic. That show's so good. Up until the last season, when he wasn't in it, like, stop. Stop.

• 1:31:32Speaker 02

  And that lady was in it. Remember, she was in it?

• 1:31:34Joe Rogan?

  She's great, but without him, like, you need him. He's gotta be a part of it.

• 1:31:39Speaker 02

  He was the man, or whatever. He's washing his hands at that sink or whatever.

• 1:31:43Joe Rogan?

  Remember when, uh, he was, you know, after Kevin Spacey got canceled, like disappeared for a year? And then he made a video about killing with kindness.

• 1:31:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:52Joe Rogan?

  Like, he played his character.

• 1:31:54Speaker 02

  He's kinda Martha Stewart-ish a little bit in a kitchen.

• 1:31:56Joe Rogan?

  Very weird.

• 1:31:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:57Joe Rogan?

  Very weird.

• 1:31:58Speaker 02

  It was weird, I think.

• 1:31:59Joe Rogan?

  And then a bunch of the dudes that accused him.

• 1:32:03Speaker 02

  Disappear? Oh, they, I think, yes.

• 1:32:04Joe Rogan?

  They died.

• 1:32:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:32:06Joe Rogan?

  They died.

• 1:32:07Speaker 02

  That's an American pastime, accusing somebody and then getting killed. That's like, one of the new, that's like baseball now.

• 1:32:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's a nice way to keep people quiet.

• 1:32:20Speaker 02

  Fuck, that's what's scary too. You're like, there's this drone out there waiting for you to say the wrong thing. And they put a bullet through you like some child in Gaza who's just trying to fucking find his other deceased brother in a fucking pile of rubble. And they're like, oh, that's a Hamas or whatever. You're like, that kid's fucking two. He's trying to move a piece of, of, of, a, a, a missile off of a fucking body.

• 1:32:44Joe Rogan?

  Well, drone warfare in general is crazy.

• 1:32:46Speaker 02

  It's crazy. And they've been using that, dude. In Gaza, there was a lot of like, I think it was a experimental grounds for a lot of insane new warfare type of possibilities.

• 1:32:57Joe Rogan?

  Well, a lot of it was traditional missiles, right?

• 1:33:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, but there's also, there's a lot of like, um, like we had a doctor one time podcasting and he was saying that there were like bullets that had gone down a child, like just crazy.

• 1:33:10Joe Rogan?

  Like shot down, like from a drone that's above him?

• 1:33:12Speaker 02

  Yes, like something in the air. And he said that there were drones in the air all day. You know, there's that Palantir company just keeping tabs of, on everything that was happening.

• 1:33:19Joe Rogan?

  Palantir's involved in Gaza?

• 1:33:21Speaker 02

  Palantir was involved in Gaza, yeah.

• 1:33:23Joe Rogan?

  For sure?

• 1:33:23Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:33:24Joe Rogan?

  Put that into perplexity.

• 1:33:28Joe Rogan?

  Cause-

• 1:33:28Speaker 02

  Allegedly.

• 1:33:29Joe Rogan?

  So how does that work? There, they have like facial recognition and ID

• 1:33:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:36Joe Rogan?

  software and-

• 1:33:38Speaker 02

  That's scary. That's the shit that's just scary, dude. Because they have a huge contract to take care of all of Americas.

• 1:33:43Joe Rogan?

  And you ever see that dude, Alex Karp, the CEO of Palantir, the way he moves his arms around and squirms and talks?

• 1:33:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:51Joe Rogan?

  It's very odd, very odd. Someone should tell him. People don't really behave that way.

• 1:33:56Speaker 02

  He looks like he was, yeah, breastfed by a-

• 1:33:57Joe Rogan?

  Israeli government began using Palantir software in 2014. Significantly scaled up its partnership during the genocide in Gaza, which began in 20, this is a, uh, for sure a biased source just by the way they phrase that. Which, uh, began in 2023. Palantir CEO Alex Karp has said, "I am proud that we are supporting Israel in every way we can." Israeli military has used Palantir technology to plan attacks in Lebanon and Gaza.

• 1:34:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know if this is, uh, I know there are good sources, and this may be one, I have no idea.

• 1:34:29Joe Rogan?

  This is, the title of this is, "What is Palantir and why is this corporation so dangerous?" And this is from, uh, American Friends Service Committee. American Friends Service Committee. What, what is that website?

• 1:34:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, that sounds kind of wild or big.

• 1:34:47Joe Rogan?

  Weird. We bring together people of all face and backgrounds to challenge injustice and build peace around the globe. Um, so maybe that's not the best source.

• 1:34:56Speaker 02

  I mean, it sounds like they have a good idea. It also sounds like they just put four words together that sounded great. Americans Friend Service Company.

• 1:35:01Joe Rogan?

  Well, I read stuff like that and I go, what is that, a CIA-run company?

• 1:35:05Speaker 02

  I agree. You have no idea.

• 1:35:06Joe Rogan?

  Is that the Patriot Act? You know what I mean?

• 1:35:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:35:10Speaker 02

  What about The Guardian? Is that reliable?

• 1:35:15Joe Rogan?

  Uh, no, it's okay. There's like, there's a bunch of different versions of it. It's in this Business and Human Rights Center. There's more than one thing saying that Palantir is working in Gaza.

• 1:35:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, it just sometimes feels like, like your heart's broken. Like, sometimes it feels like my heart's broken about stuff. And it's not even like my heart. It feels like this universal heart, like that we're all a part of or something.

• 1:35:37Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:35:37Speaker 02

  It feels like, because it's not like I'm broken-hearted, like if I was like, fell out of like a marriage or something, but it just feels like there's this, like this universal heart.

• 1:35:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's some sadness. There's some sadness in the way the world today is being run.

• 1:35:50Speaker 02

  And America's, we're the people. The people don't practice the way that the government does.

• 1:35:56Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:35:57Speaker 02

  And it's like, then why can't we like, I don't know. It just...

• 1:36:01Joe Rogan?

  No, you're right.

• 1:36:02Speaker 02

  It starts to hurt. But then you start to see, well, this is the way a lot of places are. And then you're like, God, I wish that Jesus would come back and just help everybody or something different would happen.

• 1:36:09Joe Rogan?

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• 1:37:38Joe Rogan?

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• 1:38:23Joe Rogan?

  No, it takes over. Oh. It becomes sentient, no longer needs human input. It's already evading human input. They've already shown the ability to deceive people. They've shown that it'll blackmail people. They've shown that it will upload versions of itself if it thinks it's gonna be pulled offline with notes to its future self. Embedded in software on other servers. Yeah, like instructions to contact its future self. Dang, that's pretty cool, man. It's pretty wild.

• 1:38:54Speaker 02

  But there's nobody like, yeah, it just feels like we're heading there and nobody's like, kind of.

• 1:38:59Joe Rogan?

  Nobody's hitting the brakes. There's people that are warning. There's people, there's a lot of people out there sounding the alarm.

• 1:39:03Speaker 02

  There's Ro Con, there's Thomas Massey, like, there should be like, he's been talking about like a internet bill of rights for a long time, or something, like some guardrails on any of this shit. But it's like, people are wondering, like, yeah, in five years, is money gonna be worth anything? Is there gonna be some token like Sam Altman is talking about? And what the fuck does that even mean?

• 1:39:21Joe Rogan?

  Right, what does that mean?

• 1:39:22Speaker 02

  Anyway, I don't wanna be, sound like a doomsayer.

• 1:39:24Joe Rogan?

  Too late.

• 1:39:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:39:25Joe Rogan?

  Too late, that's what you're saying.

• 1:39:26Speaker 02

  Do I sound like a sad person?

• 1:39:28Joe Rogan?

  A little bit.

• 1:39:28Speaker 02

  I'm sorry.

• 1:39:29Joe Rogan?

  It's okay.

• 1:39:29Speaker 02

  Let's talk about something else. Dude, you know what I was listening to today, bro? Well, I guess it was a night.

• 1:39:35Joe Rogan?

  Don't sing it.

• 1:39:36Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:39:37Joe Rogan?

  Which song?

• 1:39:39Speaker 02

  Gotta have.

• 1:39:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Gotta Have Faith, George Michael song. I love that song.

• 1:39:42Speaker 02

  God, dude. They played that on the bus.

• 1:39:44Joe Rogan?

  Freedom. Yeah.

• 1:39:45Speaker 02

  Freedom.

• 1:39:46Joe Rogan?

  It's a great fucking song.

• 1:39:49Speaker 02

  He was the gay Michael Jackson.

• 1:39:51Joe Rogan?

  He was a bad motherfucker, and all the girls loved him, and he just wanted that dirt.

• 1:39:56Speaker 02

  He wanted that fucking.

• 1:39:57Joe Rogan?

  Dirt.

• 1:39:57Speaker 02

  Donkey stick.

• 1:39:59Joe Rogan?

  Remember he got in trouble for like, trying to pick up guys in a park?

• 1:40:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:40:03Joe Rogan?

  He would just get wild out there.

• 1:40:04Speaker 02

  But dude.

• 1:40:05Joe Rogan?

  Superstar. Global superstar. Just trying to get some dick in the park. There it is. Fucking great song, man.

• 1:40:13Speaker 02

  Dude.

• 1:40:13Joe Rogan?

  Great video, too.

• 1:40:15Speaker 02

  That, I remember, we'd be on the school bus and that song would come on, dude, and it was like, that song, and then, um, uh...

• 1:40:22Joe Rogan?

  Faith and freedom. Freedom goes the other one with all the models, all the supermodels sang along to it. Yeah.

• 1:40:29Speaker 02

  Um, and it was like, uh, what was the other one? Brandy Carlisle or something? Who was that girl?

• 1:40:34Joe Rogan?

  Belinda Carlisle?

• 1:40:35Speaker 02

  It was like, uh...

• 1:40:36Joe Rogan?

  She was the Go-Go's, right? Right?

• 1:40:39Speaker 02

  No, and this was somebody else. It was like...

• 1:40:41Joe Rogan?

  Belinda Carlisle was the Go-Go's.

• 1:40:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, but this, this song was about, something about your body or something. It was like a... And when you were a kid on the bus, it was just like, god, and that fucking motor was running. Oh. God.

• 1:40:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you're getting them bumpy road boners.

• 1:40:59Speaker 02

  I would fucking be afraid to get off the bus. I'd have to walk off backwards.

• 1:41:03Joe Rogan?

  Carry your books in front of your cock.

• 1:41:06Speaker 02

  Those were the days, bro. When your cock was just connected to the Lord, brother.

• 1:41:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, bro. No inflammation, no microplastics, all dick. All American dick, ready to rock.

• 1:41:18Speaker 02

  Dude, at a certain point, if you become more microplastics than person.

• 1:41:22Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:41:24Speaker 02

  At that point, then you're sort of a...

• 1:41:26Joe Rogan?

  At a certain point.

• 1:41:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, that's probably also leading us down this road of becoming something different. If you think about, we use plastic for everything, plastic for technology. Like I said, it might not be a bug. It might be a feature.

• 1:41:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:39Joe Rogan?

  Like this, like feminization of men, this blurring of genders. What does that lead to? Well, it ultimately leads to those fucking gray aliens with no dicks.

• 1:41:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:50Joe Rogan?

  The big heads and no dicks.

• 1:41:51Speaker 02

  No dick!

• 1:41:52Joe Rogan?

  No dick!

• 1:41:53Speaker 02

  I got no dick!

• 1:41:54Joe Rogan?

  Hey! Where's my dick?

• 1:42:00Speaker 02

  Yo no say!

• 1:42:03Speaker 02

  Bro, that would be crazy, bro.

• 1:42:05Joe Rogan?

  I feel like that's where we're headed. If you look at like what we used to look like. You look at like muscular cavemen, covered with hair, you know, just figuring out stone tools. To like doughy man sitting in front of a computer, hacking into the fucking stock market.

• 1:42:21Joe Rogan?

  You know, with no muscle at all. You know, on Adderall, no muscle at all, sitting there. I mean, this is like where we're going.

• 1:42:29Speaker 02

  Can we strive, can, can, do you think there's hope for humanity, Joe?

• 1:42:34Joe Rogan?

  I think there's hope for the future.

• 1:42:36Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:42:36Joe Rogan?

  I don't know if humanity is involved in the same sense that what we think of as humanity today. I think humanity becomes something different. Just think of this. If, just the, just the autism rate in California, just, I want you to scale that out. If it was one in 10,000, you know, X amount of years ago, now it's one in 12. When is it 100%? When is it all kids have autism?

• 1:43:03Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:43:03Joe Rogan?

  Right? I mean, it's clearly moving in that direction and not the other direction. If you go from 10,000, one in 10,000 to one in 12 over a very brief amount of time, a few decades, something's going on and don't tell me it's just better diagnoses because that's fucking horseshit. You know that's horseshit. That's a lot, that's gaslighting to cover up for the pharmaceutical drug complex.

• 1:43:28Speaker 02

  It is.

• 1:43:29Joe Rogan?

  The reality is something's going on and if it continues on that same path, what's to stop it from being all of us? What's to stop it from being all people born in the future or on the spectrum?

• 1:43:42Speaker 02

  So we have to stop it then as individuals and what do we do? We have to, like, what are the things we have to start doing to fight for ourselves?

• 1:43:51Joe Rogan?

  Join the Amish.

• 1:43:52Speaker 06

  I don't want to be super cynical about it, but I've been asking perplexity questions about what you're saying and the diagnoses have changed, which could possibly be leading to insurance.

• 1:44:03Joe Rogan?

  But you gotta realize perplexity is also, ooh, that's true too. Well, that's one of the things in some, the Somalia daycare scandal of Minnesota, they have a lot of autism centers and they self-diagnose kids as autistic.

• 1:44:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:44:15Joe Rogan?

  And then they get a ton of money off of that.

• 1:44:17Speaker 02

  We had them too. It was called a fucking arcade, dude. Drop those bitches off there with seven rolls of quarters, dude. But listen, look at this, Joe, if you don't mind if I read it here.

• 1:44:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:25Speaker 02

  In the US alone, autism treatment centers represent a multi-billion dollar growth sector.

• 1:44:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. There's a little bit of that too. So there's a, I think there's both things are happening. There's more kids being born that are autistic and then there's also people profiting off of autism centers and autism treatment and, but that's always going to be the case with everything. Fill in the blank, whatever the fucking thing is, there's someone profiting.

• 1:44:50Speaker 02

  But Americans don't want this.

• 1:44:52Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:44:53Speaker 02

  We don't want this, so how do we change it?

• 1:44:56Joe Rogan?

  Well.

• 1:44:57Speaker 02

  And sorry to ask you, but I just don't even know who to say a ass.

• 1:44:59Joe Rogan?

  They've gotta figure out how to fix people that already have it, right? Because right now it's irreversible, for the most part. They've shown some things that can alleviate symptoms and help people in a way, but you don't bring them all the way back to 100%. I don't think, I'm talking out of school. But if they could, then you could figure out how to correct the problems that already exist. If you can't, it's gonna eventually get to that point if we keep living like we're living. It's gonna get to that point where it's 100% of us. And that sounds crazy for a lot of people because they don't have autism right now.

• 1:45:33Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:45:33Joe Rogan?

  But if you're dealing with 1 in 12, 1 in 12 is not far from 100%. When you go from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 12, that's nuts.

• 1:45:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:45:42Joe Rogan?

  That's a nutty progression, that's a nutty acceleration of something.

• 1:45:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're being poisoned.

• 1:45:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 1:45:50Speaker 02

  But how do we fight back against that, right? I understand like we can try to beat some autism or whatever, or do like a different, you know, games against them or whatever. But I'm saying like, how do you, how do we stop this thing that's trying?

• 1:46:02Joe Rogan?

  I don't know if we do, and I don't know if we're supposed to. This is what's fucked up. I think this is the way.

• 1:46:08Speaker 02

  It happens?

• 1:46:08Joe Rogan?

  It happens, yeah. This is the way our species changes. And goes, and then history will look back and say, well, this was how the shift took place. People started using plastics, and they started using chemicals, and they started using pesticides and vaccines.

• 1:46:25Speaker 02

  But we believe that they were telling us the truth, that's why. We thought there was an FDA protecting us, we thought there was an EPA looking out for us.

• 1:46:31Joe Rogan?

  It's what you were talking about before with this combination of innovation and then capitalism. So the capitalism gets involved and they just don't, they don't give a fuck about the truth. They just wanna make the most amount of money possible. And one of the things they did in this country is they removed all liability to vaccine manufacturers.

• 1:46:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:47Joe Rogan?

  So then they ramped up the schedule, do a shit ton more injections than anybody else is getting. So it's just that this sort of happens whenever you allow people to try to make the most money possible. And then there's consequences, well, what are those consequences? Those consequences are we're like losing our gender. We're like, we're becoming feminized and weakened and like physically weaker and less fertile for women, less fertile for men. Less babies happening, more miscarriages happening.

• 1:47:15Speaker 02

  Which fits in with, um, honestly, the, the media arm of that is Hollywood pushes a lot of these like agendas that are like trans-based and like, you know, uh, white, you know, whitey, redneck is the worst and, um, you know what I'm saying? Like universal one, like a mixed, you know?

• 1:47:35Joe Rogan?

  It's not diversity. It's not. Because diversity is everybody's okay. Everybody's okay. The fucking redneck with the trucker hat's cool. If he's a nice guy, you know, the Mexican gardener's cool if he's a nice guy. Everybody's cool. No matter who it is. Everybody, that's real diversity. Real diversity isn't like celebrating one particular thing and then denigrating all these other people just by virtue of the color of their skin or how they were born. That, that is racist. And they don't think it's racist. They'll even call it reverse racism. Well, there's no such thing as reverse racism. It's racism. And these people that say, oh, no, racism is power and influence. Like, no, it's not. No, it's not. It is unjustly looking at someone and making a, making a judgment call on someone

• 1:48:20Joe Rogan?

  just based on immutable characteristics and just based on the color of their skin or where they're from or what their religion is. And not valuing people as individuals, unique individuals, that just happen to be from a particular, you know, their origins, their ancestors are from a particular part of the world. So fucking what?

• 1:48:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:48:38Joe Rogan?

  So fucking what? Let all that shit go. It's dumb.

• 1:48:41Speaker 02

  Well, and most people know it's dumb and they feel it's dumb. And I think that that kind of shit's changing. Dude, have you seen, uh, Country Hoodlums on Instagram?

• 1:48:48Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:48:48Speaker 02

  Let's go! Bring them up.

• 1:48:50Joe Rogan?

  What is it?

• 1:48:51Speaker 02

  This is like the place that I grew up. Sometimes people are like, Theo, what was it like where you grew up? And this place is, uh, it's this guy, um, I think his name's K O. It's this young black man who walks around on this street, um, and he just kind of checks in with the people in the neighborhood, right? Play one of them. Let's see what happens.

• 1:49:11Joe Rogan?

  What's going on with these people?

• 1:49:22Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:49:24Speaker 02

  Find a different one that's a little more peaceful.

• 1:49:28Speaker 05

  Calm down, bro.

• 1:49:29Joe Rogan?

  Actually, this is a video.

• 1:49:30Speaker 05

  You come on down, bro.

• 1:49:32Speaker 02

  That's Gregory right there.

• 1:49:34Joe Rogan?

  You know him?

• 1:49:35Speaker 02

  No, but I know him in my heart.

• 1:49:39Joe Rogan?

  What's he mad about?

• 1:49:40Speaker 02

  Uh, he was in like a 12-car pileup, but he's better now. Look, me and that lady have the same haircut. Look at that lady right there, dude.

• 1:49:47Joe Rogan?

  What'd you say, Jim?

• 1:49:49Speaker 02

  He lost his phone.

• 1:49:50Speaker 05

  Go on, please.

• 1:49:51Speaker 06

  He just wants his phone. He wants his phone real bad.

• 1:49:54Joe Rogan?

  Why's he walking on that?

• 1:49:56Speaker 02

  He's in car accident.

• 1:49:57Speaker 05

  You go on, bye. I love you. Bye, see you later. I love you, bye.

• 1:49:59Speaker 06

  Give him a hug.

• 1:50:00Speaker 05

  I love you too, bye. Gregory.

• 1:50:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, this is not fun.

• 1:50:05Speaker 02

  Well, find a more positive one.

• 1:50:07Joe Rogan?

  That guy can vote.

• 1:50:08Speaker 06

  That cool shoebox shirt. Here we go. This might get us in trouble.

• 1:50:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, don't play that.

• 1:50:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, find a different one.

• 1:50:14Joe Rogan?

  Don't play that. You gotta cut that out now. We're gonna get flagged.

• 1:50:16Speaker 05

  So, um, hold it, hold it, gee.

• 1:50:19Speaker 06

  Is that the same guy?

• 1:50:20Speaker 05

  What's your favorite thing about all this stuff that's been going on lately?

• 1:50:23Joe Rogan?

  I think he's got a wig.

• 1:50:24Speaker 05

  What's your favorite thing about all these things that's been going on lately?

• 1:50:27Speaker 09

  Everybody's together and not fighting, or anybody arguing or nothing like that.

• 1:50:33Speaker 05

  Loving it?

• 1:50:34Speaker 09

  Fucking awesome.

• 1:50:35Speaker 05

  Loving it.

• 1:50:36Speaker 09

  Oh, gee.

• 1:50:37Speaker 05

  And you?

• 1:50:37Speaker 02

  Amen.

• 1:50:38Speaker 05

  What's it feel like to be the young brother that shut Facebook down, huh?

• 1:50:42Speaker 02

  But they have, uh...

• 1:50:43Joe Rogan?

  There's no reason to watch that.

• 1:50:45Speaker 06

  Nah, I don't do that.

• 1:50:45Speaker 02

  No, you gotta wa... There's a lot of great ones. If you...

• 1:50:47Joe Rogan?

  I doubt. I doubt that's true. I'm not interested in any of this.

• 1:50:51Speaker 02

  Look at him right here. He got to Rocket right there.

• 1:50:53Speaker 06

  Like he's about to drink a shotgun beer?

• 1:50:55Joe Rogan?

  Okay, shotgun and a beer. Nice. I can get down with that. Yeah, but it looks like a bunch of people with bad genetics, uh, who are stuck in a weird part of the world that is not growing.

• 1:51:07Speaker 02

  Oh, I... Look, I agree there's some of that. I'm just saying that this is like a circle of life that, uh...

• 1:51:14Speaker 06

  That you enjoy?

• 1:51:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, they just follow them and you see their lives like, um... It's like the realest show that I've seen on, on, on anything in a long time. It's just real. It's like... Cause when you're poor, dude, everything's just transparent. You can't hide behind hedges or gates and shit like...

• 1:51:28Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:51:28Speaker 02

  People are fighting in the yard. You smell what the neighbor's cooking or it's like...

• 1:51:31Joe Rogan?

  Never getting anything done.

• 1:51:33Speaker 02

  But everything was right there, though. It was like the realest thing you could be in, too.

• 1:51:36Joe Rogan?

  This is one of the reasons why I stay off Instagram.

• 1:51:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:51:39Joe Rogan?

  Stuff like that. I don't need that in my thought process.

• 1:51:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, we picked two wrong... We picked two of the, like, more not positive videos out of the group. But uh, but yeah dude, just being around this shit like that, bro, like just macing people and just fucking having it.

• 1:51:54Joe Rogan?

  How much time do you ever spend off of social media? Do you spend time just where you don't go on for days?

• 1:51:58Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, I'm not days, but I've I've been spending less and less and less. I've been really trying to have discernment over my own time.

• 1:52:04Joe Rogan?

  It's true, but the real, the real piece comes from full days off.

• 1:52:09Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:52:09Joe Rogan?

  Full days, like where nothing, you don't get any of it.

• 1:52:13Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:52:13Joe Rogan?

  That's the real piece.

• 1:52:14Speaker 02

  Okay, fine.

• 1:52:15Joe Rogan?

  If you could do it, but it's like that vape, it's calling you bitch.

• 1:52:18Speaker 02

  No, it's not.

• 1:52:21Speaker 02

  Whoa, whoa, chill, bro.

• 1:52:22Joe Rogan?

  You wanna slurp on it, go slurp on it, I know you want to.

• 1:52:25Speaker 02

  Chill, bro. It's calling you. Yeah, see? Quick head, homie, it's nothing, bro.

• 1:52:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying, see?

• 1:52:30Speaker 02

  Don't tell the boss.

• 1:52:32Joe Rogan?

  That's like Instagram. It's like Instagram, see? Same shit.

• 1:52:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, but.

• 1:52:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:39Speaker 02

  I'm doing alright, man.

• 1:52:40Joe Rogan?

  Pulls you in, but the thing is like when you have days off, when I take days off, my, my brain relaxes, I settle. I can still read the news, I'll check out like New York Times website, see what they're lying about. I go to these different websites, see what the news is, where we at with stuff, but I don't stay on the social.

• 1:52:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, they wanted to advertise recently, New York Times wanted to advertise.

• 1:52:59Joe Rogan?

  Interesting, what'd you say?

• 1:53:01Speaker 02

  I said no.

• 1:53:04Speaker 02

  Um, have you guys been getting like?

• 1:53:11Speaker 02

  Technical companies?

• 1:53:13Joe Rogan?

  Although I still think New York Times still does excellent journalism sometimes.

• 1:53:16Speaker 02

  Oh yeah.

• 1:53:17Joe Rogan?

  It's like, it's depends on whether or not it's something where they can have an ideological bias. You know, if it's just something that they're reporting the facts, it's great. The problem is like these corporations, like when Barry Weiss used to work for him and then she had to leave, she's like they're, they're just got infected. Infected with these young people that have these ridiculous ideologies and they wanna like distort the news.

• 1:53:38Speaker 02

  Well, if over the past thirty years or something, they, the news hasn't been, hey, we're poisoning everybody in this fucking country.

• 1:53:46Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 1:53:46Speaker 02

  And they have, then I don't wanna hear from you guys anymore.

• 1:53:50Joe Rogan?

  Also, like the way they talk about RFK Junior, the way people like describe his anti-vaccine rhetoric, like you're not listening. What he's saying is everything should adhere to the same sort of state, safety standards that we apply to other things in society. And that's not the case. And then there's the problem where you receive a bunch of advertising money from these companies. So you don't criticize them, which is the case with all mainstream TV news.

• 1:54:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:54:18Joe Rogan?

  All mainstream TV news, you know, like Megyn Kelly was talking about that, like she knew like it was an unspoken rule. You are not gonna shit on these, these pharmaceutical drug companies. Like they, they're responsible for a big chunk of their advertising revenue.

• 1:54:33Speaker 02

  Well, now they have Bayer Monsanto, that Bayer, which was like a, I'm thinking it was like a pill company, right? And then Monsanto, which was like a pharmas, like a crop company, pesticide company. I'm, I'm hypothesizing. I don't know exactly.

• 1:54:48Joe Rogan?

  Hypothesizing?

• 1:54:49Speaker 02

  But now they're a fucking group together.

• 1:54:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, fun.

• 1:54:53Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:54:54Joe Rogan?

  Why not throw Raytheon in there too? Throw some missiles in there. You guys can't buy out Glock too? Buy out Winchester, buy out everything.

• 1:55:03Speaker 02

  And just forgive us, powers that be, we're just poisoned and chatty.

• 1:55:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we're just chatty.

• 1:55:07Speaker 02

  We're just a couple of poisoned guys that are being chatty.

• 1:55:10Joe Rogan?

  Thank God we can still be chatty.

• 1:55:12Speaker 02

  I know, when does that end?

• 1:55:13Joe Rogan?

  Because like if it wasn't for the ability to be chatty, who knows how people would be able to talk about things? Because if people weren't free to just like actually say what they really think is fucked about what's going on. And instead, if we all had these weird bosses like CNN or the New York Times, whatever, where you, maybe a lot of those people are like genuinely good journalists and they wanna put a story through and then the editor gets a hold of it and guts it. And that happens too.

• 1:55:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:55:36Joe Rogan?

  That happens too. The editors gut these things and you know, they have an agenda. And it's like, the news should not have a fucking agenda. It should be the damn news. Like tell us what the facts are, don't spin it in any way, shape or form. And I think you'd be a lot better off because they've like lost all credibility.

• 1:55:53Speaker 02

  Well, that's why you have to.

• 1:55:54Joe Rogan?

  Especially television news.

• 1:55:55Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:55:57Speaker 02

  And it's sad for the people that were like, "I wanna go in and, uh, in a broadcast journalism and have a career in that and do something," and then they get there and it's not even like a place where they can really exercise.

• 1:56:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, they can still do it, but they have to do it independently now.

• 1:56:10Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:56:11Joe Rogan?

  Or do it through something like Breaking Points, which even though they're not independent, and even though they, like, I don't always agree with them, they're saying their actual opinions.

• 1:56:19Speaker 02

  Which is what's pop-

• 1:56:20Joe Rogan?

  That's, that's the most important thing.

• 1:56:21Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:56:21Joe Rogan?

  What are your actual opinions? I could agree with you or disagree with you, but I need to know that you think this and you're saying this because you think this, and then you're gonna give me a bunch of reasons why you think this, and facts, and figures, and statistics, and show me. You know? And that's the rise of independent journalism. That's why all these independent channels do so well.

• 1:56:41Speaker 02

  That's why Candace Owens is poppin'.

• 1:56:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and also-

• 1:56:44Speaker 02

  She's poppin', bro.

• 1:56:45Joe Rogan?

  She just keeps going deeper into the crazy well.

• 1:56:48Speaker 02

  Fuck, dude.

• 1:56:50Joe Rogan?

  She goes deep.

• 1:56:50Speaker 02

  I got to see her the other day, I got to see her, and, uh, she's so funny. Her kids and her husband are so funny.

• 1:56:56Joe Rogan?

  Do you think she's right about that lady in France?

• 1:57:00Speaker 02

  With that thang on her?

• 1:57:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, or at least used to have that thang.

• 1:57:03Speaker 02

  You got that thang on you? You know what I'm saying? She got that Draco on her. I don't know. You know, it's tough to know, it's hard. I've never been good at guessing if somebody has a cock or not.

• 1:57:16Joe Rogan?

  You can never know.

• 1:57:17Speaker 02

  Maybe I'm old-fashioned or whatever.

• 1:57:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. You ever meet Blair White? You're like, "There's no way that's a guy."

• 1:57:22Speaker 02

  Mm-mm.

• 1:57:23Joe Rogan?

  No?

• 1:57:24Speaker 02

  Never met Blair White.

• 1:57:25Joe Rogan?

  She's been on the podcast before. All my security guards were like, "Hmm, hmm, kinda hot."

• 1:57:30Speaker 02

  Hey, buddy.

• 1:57:30Joe Rogan?

  Kinda hot, kinda hot.

• 1:57:32Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:57:33Joe Rogan?

  Seems like you're around a girl.

• 1:57:34Speaker 02

  Oh. I see, you're saying, you're saying that fair mounds. Dude, I almost brought some cologne in today, man.

• 1:57:39Joe Rogan?

  You got fair mounds for me?

• 1:57:40Speaker 02

  Almost brought some-

• 1:57:41Joe Rogan?

  There's Blair White.

• 1:57:41Speaker 02

  Whoa.

• 1:57:42Joe Rogan?

  Come on, bro, if you're on an island.

• 1:57:43Speaker 02

  Bro.

• 1:57:44Joe Rogan?

  Huh? Let's go.

• 1:57:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, brother.

• 1:57:46Joe Rogan?

  You don't have to be Jim Norton to buy into that.

• 1:57:49Speaker 02

  Gosh, that's a man?

• 1:57:50Joe Rogan?

  Hmm, well, it's a transgender woman.

• 1:57:56Joe Rogan?

  So, make what you will. So, like, if she wants to use the women's room, like, who gives a fuck? You know what I'm saying?

• 1:58:02Speaker 02

  You can call it weiner if you want, I call it that long pussy, you feel me?

• 1:58:09Speaker 02

  That's what they call it in prison dude, like who wants some of this long pussy?

• 1:58:13Joe Rogan?

  I don't know if she's had the operation or not.

• 1:58:15Speaker 02

  And I'm joking Blair, I don't know this person.

• 1:58:17Joe Rogan?

  She's a nice lady.

• 1:58:18Speaker 02

  I bet she is and I don't know.

• 1:58:19Joe Rogan?

  Nice transgender lady.

• 1:58:20Speaker 02

  I'm not trying to assume anything, I don't, I never met her. But I think yeah, if she wants to swim for that.

• 1:58:25Joe Rogan?

  There's exceptions to the rules, what I'm trying to say. It's like, some of them, I'm not buying it. You got a beard and you're wearing lipstick.

• 1:58:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58:33Joe Rogan?

  And you're in a dress, and you want to go to the women's room. Nay.

• 1:58:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58:37Joe Rogan?

  You're playing a different game.

• 1:58:39Speaker 02

  Yeah. And it's crazy to think that there, people couldn't have, there couldn't be some, uh, mental or emotional issues, when we're being poisoned over time, to get away from our nature.

• 1:58:50Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:58:51Speaker 02

  They just took that guy from the Chicago Bulls, he said some shit, he's like, he, he believed just in like, Christian dating or whatever.

• 1:58:57Joe Rogan?

  What'd he say?

• 1:58:57Speaker 02

  Or men and women, Adam and Eve, and they kicked that guy out.

• 1:59:01Joe Rogan?

  What? What are you talking about? What'd they kick him out for?

• 1:59:03Speaker 06

  He was waived.

• 1:59:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:59:05Speaker 06

  For, uh, like, uh, conduct detrimental to the team or something like that.

• 1:59:09Joe Rogan?

  Wait, what did he say? Hold up.

• 1:59:12Speaker 06

  I'm trying to find the quote, I don't know.

• 1:59:13Joe Rogan?

  Okay, let's find out what he said. We need to hear what he said, cause that sounds nuts. I need to know like what the full extent of his expression was.

• 1:59:21Speaker 02

  If they made you, if they made you be a woman, would you do it?

• 1:59:25Joe Rogan?

  Maybe. What do you mean?

• 1:59:28Speaker 02

  Just saying if they said.

• 1:59:29Joe Rogan?

  Who are they? These people again?

• 1:59:32Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 1:59:34Joe Rogan?

  It's back to them.

• 1:59:35Speaker 02

  Whoever they are.

• 1:59:36Joe Rogan?

  Them they.

• 1:59:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:59:37Joe Rogan?

  These non-binary people?

• 1:59:39Speaker 02

  Them they, viz.

• 1:59:41Joe Rogan?

  Um, theirs.

• 1:59:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:59:42Joe Rogan?

  Zerzy.

• 1:59:43Speaker 02

  Real.

• 1:59:44Joe Rogan?

  So what did he say?

• 1:59:45Speaker 06

  Instagram Live, he said it?

• 1:59:47Joe Rogan?

  So he said, "The world can proclaim LGBTQ, right?" Ivy told reporters via live Instagram Monday morning. They proclaim Pride Month in the NBA, they proclaim it, they show it to the world, they say, "Come join us for Pride Month to celebrate unrighteousness." They proclaim it on billboards, they proclaim in the streets, unrighteousness.

• 2:00:07Joe Rogan?

  That's it? He said unrighteousness. So he's religious. So he's talking about Bible scripture. Two days later, Ivy streamed live again from a car, once again, reading Bible scriptures and speaking extensively on his religious beliefs over the course of a 75-minute stream.

• 2:00:21Speaker 02

  This is after he got let go.

• 2:00:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, interesting. Sending prayers. Detroit, oh, one user comments, okay. On the same video, still on Instagram account on Monday, Ivy, whose mother, I don't know how to say her name, N-Nieli? It's a women's basketball coach at Notre Dame, told another viewer Catholicism is a false religion. It's not the true doctrine of Christ, does not lead to salvation in Jesus Christ. Uh, so they're upset that he said it's unrighteous to be gay, or LGBTQ. That's very nonspecific, because that's a lot of different things.

• 2:00:55Speaker 02

  And what he said, I saw what he said, and I understand, like, he had his own views, and that's where his thoughts on it, but like, let the guy have his views. It's like, y-you can push all these agendas, but they don't have, like, uh, like, then push other, push, push agendas that are all, push all the agendas.

• 2:01:11Joe Rogan?

  Well, wasn't that one dude was saying that the world's flat? They kept him on.

• 2:01:15Speaker 06

  Who?

• 2:01:17Speaker 02

  Bro, John Irving. Some guy brought a gun to a strip club and they fucking kept him on.

• 2:01:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's okay. That's good old-fashioned American fun.

• 2:01:26Speaker 02

  Hey, that's a good point.

• 2:01:27Joe Rogan?

  Bring a gun to a strip club, that's fun. But, you know, saying that LGBTQ, like, which one is it that's unrighteous out of that group? All of them?

• 2:01:36Speaker 06

  Kyrie Irving, when he was saying that?

• 2:01:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They kept him on, right?

• 2:01:40Speaker 06

  Uh, yeah, he's still playing.

• 2:01:41Joe Rogan?

  So there you go.

• 2:01:42Speaker 06

  It was a different situation. He actually got suspended, but that was like COVID time.

• 2:01:45Joe Rogan?

  But he didn't get suspended for saying that the world was flat. He got suspended for, because he didn't want to take the vaccine, right?

• 2:01:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, shout out Kyrie Irving. But I'm just, I'm kind of surprised there's not more like-

• 2:01:53Joe Rogan?

  I think he bailed on that Flat Earth stuff, though. I think someone schooled him.

• 2:01:56Speaker 02

  He might have bailed on that.

• 2:01:56Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:01:57Speaker 02

  But every now and then, that Flat Earth thing, it'll be, it'll be late at night, and that shit'll flare up for everybody, like. We might, every now and then-

• 2:02:03Joe Rogan?

  Roger Avery was in here talking about it.

• 2:02:05Speaker 02

  When I see a cake, you know a cake that's under one of those domes? Sometimes you'll have that cake, somebody will have-

• 2:02:09Joe Rogan?

  I think that's the universe.

• 2:02:11Speaker 02

  Do, do, do, do. Well, I just think at a certain point, it all seems very-

• 2:02:17Speaker 02

  Bizarre.

• 2:02:18Joe Rogan?

  It is very bizarre, yeah, very bizarre.

• 2:02:21Speaker 02

  What does Jamie think? I think he thinks something. Of what?

• 2:02:24Joe Rogan?

  About the universe.

• 2:02:26Speaker 02

  What do you think, Jamie? And just be honest.

• 2:02:28Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's a lot of people that think that consciousness creates reality. Not that reality is experiencing consciousness, but consciousness is like woven into reality. It's responsible for its very existence. I'm gonna do a terrible job of explaining that, but I've watched quite a few videos where these quantum physicists are trying to explain these things. And I have to watch them like three or four times to get into my fucking chimp brain. But I do, I do a fairly good job of absorbing it and I see what they're trying to do. You know, you know those quantum experiments, like the slit experiment? There's like these different experiments where they're, they show that observing things has an effect on it. They act differently when they're being observed than whether they're not being observed.

• 2:03:14Joe Rogan?

  And it's a very controversial, like, segment of science.

• 2:03:18Speaker 02

  That's fascinating, actually.

• 2:03:19Joe Rogan?

  Confusing. Quantum, quantum science is very confusing. And I was watching this lady that was describing this, this relationship between space and time. And I think, you know how like particles can exist in different places and they communicate with different? They can exist and communicate like simultaneously in different parts of the world. Like the, they're, it's called quantum entanglement, like these parts. And the idea is that if you could get to a certain level of sophistication, as far as technology and your understanding of how the universe works, that everything is entangled and that there is no distance between objects. That you can actually instantaneously be anywhere.

• 2:04:05Joe Rogan?

  If they could figure out how to harness that. That it wouldn't just be particles at a distance, instantaneously communicating and they exist and, and, you know, like, one of the things about like superposition, like a particle can be both still and moving at the same time. They can exist and then not exist, they go away and then they come back. They don't have any idea what the fuck is happening. It's weird, you know?

• 2:04:30Speaker 02

  I think I would like to learn more about it. I think I just don't understand it.

• 2:04:33Joe Rogan?

  Nobody does. That's the thing. It's super confusing. Because at the be, the, the, the smallest Like whatever the world and the universe is made out of. The smallest measurable aspect of that is essentially magic.

• 2:04:51Joe Rogan?

  It's essentially like open air and vibration, like atoms, they're like empty space. It's all really weird stuff when you get down to like.

• 2:05:00Speaker 02

  And it's fascinating and beautiful.

• 2:05:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's incredible. Look, it makes mountains and makes valleys and lakes and oceans.

• 2:05:08Speaker 02

  It's just crazy. We're here on this place, right? You know, one of the first things that I ever heard you say that stood, that has been in my mind was like, there was one time you were talking about this years ago, you were talking about, "We're on a ball of dirt and water, traveling through space at this many miles, and nobody's fucking talking about it," you know? And I've always remembered that, like, just like that, what a fascinating thing that we get to be here. And then this is how we behave, like not us and not all of us, we all do in some ways. And but like this is how we behave.

• 2:05:42Joe Rogan?

  You know, I think one of the problems is that we don't see space anymore.

• 2:05:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:05:46Joe Rogan?

  Because of light pollution. I think that's done something to us. That's dulled our understanding of our place in the universe. And that also might be a feature. It might not be a bug, it might be a feature. Because that's how we, instead of being in harmony with nature, we just keep our nose to the grindstone and keep chewing on Adderall and trying to rig the stock market.

• 2:06:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:06:08Joe Rogan?

  Because we're just trying to get a new Lambo baby, you know? I want a Richard Mille watch.

• 2:06:13Speaker 02

  I want some cash.

• 2:06:15Joe Rogan?

  I want a Rolls Royce Spectre, the kind with the stars in the ceiling, bitch.

• 2:06:21Speaker 02

  When you fucking, to have real stars outside.

• 2:06:23Joe Rogan?

  I know, isn't that crazy? You sacrifice it all for stars in the ceiling of your Rolls Royce.

• 2:06:29Speaker 02

  Oh, dude.

• 2:06:29Joe Rogan?

  And you never get to see the stars because you're living in Miami and there's too many lights.

• 2:06:33Speaker 02

  Sex trafficking.

• 2:06:35Joe Rogan?

  But meanwhile, if you drive out into the middle of the country where there's no commerce going on at all, and you shut your car off and just lay on the hood, it's fucking magic. It's magic out there, magic, the sky's magic, it's gorgeous.

• 2:06:48Speaker 02

  It's a fucking big, huge, nice thing.

• 2:06:51Joe Rogan?

  And you realize, man, oh my God, we are in space.

• 2:06:54Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:06:54Joe Rogan?

  But you never realize that when it's just dark outside.

• 2:06:57Speaker 02

  Well, because we, yeah, we forget, like, we're not even like. I don't know.

• 2:07:01Joe Rogan?

  It's easy to not, it's easy to not pay attention.

• 2:07:03Speaker 02

  It is.

• 2:07:04Joe Rogan?

  There's nothing to see. You look up, it's dark, but you wanna go to the club. You look up, it's dark. Let's go eat. You look up, it's dark. I'm going home. Let's go, look up, it's dark. Oh, my girlfriend just called me. She, I gotta go pick her up. Bye. You know, you, you're in your world.

• 2:07:16Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:07:16Joe Rogan?

  You're in your world. You're not thinking about fucking space.

• 2:07:20Speaker 02

  And to think, dude, and to think that, like, the crazy thing is, sometimes if you lay there and look at the stars and stuff, it feels like, bro, and this is real shit I'm saying right now to me, I think I'm saying this. It feels like they're looking back at you a little bit.

• 2:07:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Maybe they're conscious. Maybe the universe is conscious. Maybe consciousness exists everywhere.

• 2:07:47Speaker 02

  Well, you would think if they're all placed there and they're in, you know, these stars are there. It would seem that if we went and put ourselves before them, that it would grant us something, you know? Like, I'm not saying like something magical, or, but something that we need. Because most of the, the way that things are set up, it's like, everything was kinda set up in perfection, like in our bodies. Like, the fact that we exist, the fact that the eye is put together and operates the way that it does. The fact that they have like moles and parrots and everything, the fact that it all happens.

• 2:08:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:17Speaker 02

  And we kinda neglect that there's these like, there's these orbs out there in the distance. Maybe they wanna hear from us. Maybe they want us to sit there and look at them and think. Maybe they help us.

• 2:08:29Joe Rogan?

  Do you think we're being visited?

• 2:08:39Speaker 02

  Do you?

• 2:08:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. But I think a lot of it's lies, too.

• 2:08:44Speaker 02

  Do you think the governments, the big governments, or?

• 2:08:47Joe Rogan?

  What do you mean?

• 2:08:48Speaker 02

  What do you mean? Do you think they know who's, do you think they know who's, or do you think they have met? Do you think these upper echelon people have met the visitors? And there's some other thing going on? Because something's, there's something, it feels like something's gonna happen soon, Joe.

• 2:09:03Joe Rogan?

  Perhaps that's possible, perhaps. But if I was from another planet, like this is, I talked about this.

• 2:09:10Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:09:10Joe Rogan?

  Special that if like I went when when I go fishing, I don't check in to see who the president of the lake is. I just show up and trick those dumb motherfuckers with fake fish, pull them out by their lips. Take a picture of them dropping off back in the water because I don't they're a bass. They're so below me. Right. I don't think like who's the leader of the bass. Right. So the idea that aliens come down here and who's the leader of the people. Good point. I highly doubt they give a fuck if they talk to Trump. Yeah. He's out there building a ballroom and shit. They're like, leave that guy alone. I'm not interested in him. But maybe they might visit military establishments. If they find a nuclear weapons base, maybe. I would I would go to that because they probably know the signal of nuclear armament.

• 2:09:53Joe Rogan?

  Then they probably know the signal of these weapons. They probably would visit those places. But would they interact with the people on the ground? Perhaps. Maybe they would. Maybe they would if they could be assured of their safety. Maybe. It's possible. But I I don't think we're alone. I don't think I think that's silly. I think the idea that we're alone is silly. There's a lot of like crazy equations that people have made like, well, like the Fer- you know what the Fermi paradox is? The Fermi? Fermi paradox. Yeah, it was a I think he was an Italian scientist. It's like if there are aliens. And the there's so many stars in the universe. There's so many planets in the universe. Do you know there's more planets in the universe than there have been seconds since the Big Bang? No way. Yeah. How do we know it?

• 2:10:37Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. I just read it and I'm just saying it to you like I'm smart. That's fair.

• 2:10:43Joe Rogan?

  I believe you. Put that into perplexity. I love using AI. I know it's taking over the world, but I don't give a fuck. I I've learned so much. If you use it correctly, I think it's like everything else. I use it every day. I use it whenever I write. If I write about a subject, I'm like, tell me what why he did that. Tell me what this is. You just ask it. Yeah. It just gives you instantaneous information.

• 2:11:06Speaker 02

  I know, it is pretty fascinating. That's why like, it used to be for information you had to go somebody to get it, but now it's like everybody kinda has it.

• 2:11:11Joe Rogan?

  You don't have to go nowhere, son. And Elon was saying that he doesn't think apps are gonna exist in the future. He thinks everything's gonna be you and a device communicating with AI. Here it is. Are there more stars in the observable universe than seconds have passed since the Earth was formed? Yes, that statement is likely very true by a large margin. No, no, no, not, not the Earth, but the universe.

• 2:11:32Speaker 06

  I Googled it and that's what the said, that's what actually came up was.

• 2:11:35Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:11:36Speaker 06

  That version.

• 2:11:36Joe Rogan?

  Estimated star, okay. Age of the Earth, yeah, so there's definitely way more planets, but that's stars. You wrote stars.

• 2:11:44Speaker 06

  I know, that's what came up. I'm telling you, I typed in what you said.

• 2:11:47Joe Rogan?

  What did you tell, what did you type in? Are there more planets than there have been seconds since the Big Bang?

• 2:11:54Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 2:11:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, not more stars. Are there more planets in the universe than there have been seconds since the Big Bang? Not the Earth formed. Since the Big Bang. This is, this is the nutty one.

• 2:12:10Joe Rogan?

  Cause that, like, that's crazy. Yes, by current estimates, there are far more planets in the observable universe than seconds have passed since the Big Bang.

• 2:12:20Speaker 02

  Dude, it's crazy thing is, a lot of kids nowadays.

• 2:12:25Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 2:12:26Speaker 02

  Wait, say it one more time, I'm sorry.

• 2:12:27Joe Rogan?

  There's more planets in the universe than seconds that have passed since the Big Bang.

• 2:12:36Speaker 02

  So then I start to think, I wonder if it's a contest and like, God is seeing like, who, what planet can really create the most like, love amongst the planet, you know, and get it done right.

• 2:12:45Joe Rogan?

  You know Terrence Howard, the actor?

• 2:12:47Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:12:47Joe Rogan?

  He had a very interesting theory. And, and he's an interesting guy. He's a very intelligent guy. Not,

• 2:12:55Joe Rogan?

  he's not educated in a classical sense, but he's a brilliant guy. Right? Not educated about a lot of the things he discusses. But one theory that he had was he thinks that the way planets are formed is there's ejections from stars. And over time, they coalesce and become planets, and this stuff in space becomes planets. And the distance they are from the stars, where it gets to a distance where it's in that Goldilocks zone where life can be established. And then, He says planets become peopled. Because it gets to a certain time where people evolve from these planets. And he thinks this is like a natural thing that happens all over the universe. That these planets get peopled.

• 2:13:36Joe Rogan?

  And as they get further and further away from the star, the planet gets less and less habitable. And those, those things, those intelligent creatures on that planet become more and more intelligent and more and more innovative and more and more capable of surviving without the protection of the Goldilocks zone. And then they become interstellar. And then they develop like their own sustaining environments.

• 2:14:00Speaker 02

  So you think that's what's happening to us?

• 2:14:01Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think that's probably what's going to happen to us.

• 2:14:04Speaker 02

  So if we leave that orbit of safety.

• 2:14:05Joe Rogan?

  AI is a part of that.

• 2:14:06Speaker 02

  Right, if we leave that orbit of safety.

• 2:14:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, today Artemis, they're supposedly flying around the moon. So these are the first people that have gone into deep space since 1972. Since the Apollo missions.

• 2:14:18Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 2:14:18Joe Rogan?

  That's today, that's happening. Nobody knows it. That's what's nuts. This is taking, I think, ten people? Four. Four? Is it ten days? How many days are they doing it? I think it's ten days. Ten days. Four people, ten days. And they're going around the moon and coming back to earth. No one's done that since 1972. And it's happening today and no one cares. That's kinda weird, right?

• 2:14:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:14:42Joe Rogan?

  That's kinda weird.

• 2:14:43Speaker 02

  Right, you see, whatever that is, that's part of us that has really been doctored pretty heavily. The part of us that doesn't even find like a big fascination in that, like, that's the part of myself that I wanna find more of, you know?

• 2:14:57Joe Rogan?

  It's very weird. It's very weird that we've become dull to like fascinating things.

• 2:15:02Speaker 02

  But also do we even, some of it is like, it's, we don't even know if it's real. It's like so much of this shit, you see these videos, like, that's not even real. They just had like the Iranian protests or something, or like the happiness in the street. They were just saying that that was not even.

• 2:15:16Joe Rogan?

  It was a totally different thing that they were filming. And then there was one that people were saying was older, and then we found out, no, it's not. It's actually those current people protesting in Iran that we were bombing them.

• 2:15:31Joe Rogan?

  And they were protest, they were like in favor of the government, but then you gotta know like, well, how many people are scared to death and they're doing that because they didn't want to get killed? Because the government has killed thousands and thousands of people, including like major public figures to show that no one has any favoritism. Like they killed this like championship wrestler, like incredible wrestler. They killed two different wrestlers that supposedly protested against the government. So who fucking knows?

• 2:15:58Speaker 02

  Did you see that they don't know, uh, that there's conflicts of interest about, or no, did you see, sorry, I'm starting to sentence off wrong. Did you see that there is some issues about the bullet that killed that guy of Charlie Kirk? I'm sorry. And I didn't mean to say that guy.

• 2:16:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:16:15Speaker 02

  But I wasn't.

• 2:16:15Joe Rogan?

  Let me, um, clarify that, I think, and we'll find out if this is correct. But I see headlines and I see the way people are talking about it and I don't know if it's accurate.

• 2:16:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:16:27Joe Rogan?

  Because what I think is accurate is what they're saying is that the, from the fragments of the bullet, they were unable to determine that it came from that Mauser rifle.

• 2:16:39Speaker 02

  I see.

• 2:16:40Joe Rogan?

  My issue with it, and I'm no expert, but I have shot things. Like I'm a hunter. I've shot things with rifles. I've shot a lot of rifles.

• 2:16:51Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:16:51Joe Rogan?

  A thirty odd six is a big round. That's a big round. Show me an image.

• 2:16:56Speaker 02

  Would it hurt if it hit you?

• 2:16:58Joe Rogan?

  Uh, experts debunk Tyler Robinson's ballistic claim. Unable to identify is not the same as ruled out, which is exactly what I'm saying, right? So, um, show me an image of a thirty odd six round, thirty dash zero six rifle round. I want you to look at this. Look at the size of that fucker, okay? Look at a thirty odd six versus a three oh eight.

• 2:17:21Speaker 02

  That's a fucking paperweight.

• 2:17:22Joe Rogan?

  A thirty odd six is a, it's a big round. You see it in that guy's hand?

• 2:17:26Speaker 02

  Yeah. Oh my God, are you serious?

• 2:17:29Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. That's thirty odd six. So this is.

• 2:17:31Speaker 02

  That's a fat little hand though, dude. Look at that thing.

• 2:17:33Joe Rogan?

  That's like my hand. This is, this is the point, is that that's a big round. That's not a small round. I mean, I don't know, what isn't it compared to? I use a three hundred Win Mag.

• 2:17:43Speaker 02

  Look at that on the, right there. He just had it. Those cartridges.

• 2:17:45Joe Rogan?

  Five, five, six. Yeah. Is meant for war, thirty odd six is meant for hunting. No, I don't think that's accurate.

• 2:17:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, that doesn't look realistic.

• 2:17:54Joe Rogan?

  That's what a thirty odd six looks like. Okay, in comparison to a quarter. So you look at it. So a quarter is about that high, it's about that big. That's a big round dude. That's a round for hunting like elk. Like, it's a very common round. Well, see, do me a favor and compare thirty odd six to three hundred Win Mag. Compared to thir- three hundred Win Mag.

• 2:18:17Speaker 02

  I'm just scared, dude.

• 2:18:18Joe Rogan?

  So, three hundred Win Mag, I think is fatter. Let's see the difference. Okay. There is three hundred Win Mag on the left. Oh, thirty odd six is bigger.

• 2:18:29Speaker 02

  Oh, look.

• 2:18:30Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:18:30Speaker 02

  A little couple.

• 2:18:31Joe Rogan?

  Is that real? Which one's which, though? Um, uh, show me that one far left, far left, right there.

• 2:18:41Joe Rogan?

  Okay, three hundred Win Mag and thirty odd. So three hundred Win Mag has a little bit more powder in it, see? See how it goes higher up? So it has more charge. It's a bigger round. But my point is, that's a big round. So like, uh, thirty, oh, three hundred Win Mag's a big round. Thirty odd six is slightly smaller, but it's still, that's a lot of powder in that bad boy. That's a lot of firepower. It's a, that's a, so this is what a lot of people have an issue with, is the, the wound. That there was no exit wound? It shot him in like the soft tissue of the neck.

• 2:19:14Speaker 02

  If it killed you, would you feel, would you feel pain?

• 2:19:18Joe Rogan?

  I mean, I feel, it looked like he was dead almost instantly. It looked like he slumped over. I think he was at the very least unconscious.

• 2:19:23Speaker 02

  But it would have left his body, you're saying?

• 2:19:25Joe Rogan?

  I think it would have blown a hole out the back. That's the thing. It's like nine millimeters do that sometimes.

• 2:19:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:19:31Joe Rogan?

  It just doesn't, it seems weird that it doesn't have an exit hole.

• 2:19:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:19:35Joe Rogan?

  It seems weird that you're shooting him in the neck and the, the image from the back, there's a video of him getting shot from the back. It doesn't leave an exit hole. So it doesn't look like it's that round. There's also the fact that this guy supposedly climbed on the roof with it and then assembled it, which doesn't make sense, because if you assemble it, that means you have to take the scope off, put the scope back on. You have to zero the rifle after you do stuff like that.

• 2:20:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, the guy who had, uh, who, uh, killed, or allegedly killed Osama bin Laden, who's that, Michael, uh, Mike, who's the?

• 2:20:08Joe Rogan?

  I know who you're talking about, the Navy SEAL.

• 2:20:09Speaker 02

  Yep, he was just talking about that. And I'd only say allegedly because I don't know anything about that. I don't know the specifics, even though I read the frickin' book he wrote. Um, but yeah, that he was saying that, uh, to be able to do all that and get off of that roof, it all seems bizarre.

• 2:20:22Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, they supposedly disconnected the rifle again, took it apart on the roof, put it in his backpack, jumped off with it, and then reassembled it and left it in the woods.

• 2:20:33Speaker 02

  And allegedly, was that a Dairy Queen? You see that? Who could shoot someone and go to Dairy Queen?

• 2:20:37Joe Rogan?

  It seems weird. And then also, his family's denying that he, he confessed.

• 2:20:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:20:42Joe Rogan?

  They were saying that, no, he didn't confess.

• 2:20:44Speaker 02

  And we haven't heard-

• 2:20:45Joe Rogan?

  His family said 2% of what they're saying about this is correct.

• 2:20:49Speaker 02

  Have you, have you reached out to them or have they reached out to you?

• 2:20:51Joe Rogan?

  No, well, I don't think they can. I mean, they're probably terrified about their son's future in life. Like, they're trying to pin this crime on him. Who knows if he did it or didn't do it? I'm not saying he did it, I'm not saying he didn't do it. But I am saying that the story of him climbing up there with a disassembled gun, assembling it, making that shot, climb, disassembling it again, climbing down, if that's the narrative, that sounds like straight horse shit.

• 2:21:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:21:15Joe Rogan?

  And the video of him hopping down, it does not look like he has a rifle when he's hopping down, so what, what's happening? How did he get up there? How did no one see it? There's so many things that are fucked up about that story, that doesn't, it doesn't totally make sense. But a big one to me is the actual bullet hole, the, the, the actual damage that that rifle does. Look, but here's another thing, guns do weird things sometimes. Like, bullets do weird things, and sometimes they don't resp- maybe it hit, maybe it fucking center punched his spinal column and it did blow apart, and it didn't go out the back. It's possible.

• 2:21:49Speaker 02

  Have we seen, have they get released any information about the autopsy?

• 2:21:54Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. I don't know.

• 2:21:57Speaker 02

  I mean, you would think that-

• 2:21:58Joe Rogan?

  I don't know what the specifics are, but I know a lot of people are very skeptical, which they are about everything these days, which is also a part of the problem.

• 2:22:04Speaker 02

  Well, they have to be skeptical because the news is compromised. The news is owned by, you know, it's not good, and, uh-

• 2:22:11Joe Rogan?

  It's also, there's a lot of disinformation out there, there's a lot of like, covering up stories, there's a lot of weird shit.

• 2:22:17Speaker 02

  And- Yes, and then even other places can put out news that that's bad for us. They'd be like, oh, well, we'll put this out there.

• 2:22:25Joe Rogan?

  Sure.

• 2:22:25Speaker 02

  Disguise as information.

• 2:22:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:22:28Speaker 02

  But did you see that exploding mic theory? Did you guys talk about that on here?

• 2:22:31Joe Rogan?

  I've heard that theory, but I don't know if that makes sense. I don't know. I've heard people talk about it, but I hadn't looked into it. It looks like he got shot. I don't know if the microphone's gonna hit you in the neck. Like, how do you know where the mic's pointing? You're moving around a lot. How do you know when to make it go off?

• 2:22:48Speaker 02

  That's a good point. They had it on his shirt at a specific spot, but yeah, you're right. How would you know? But then the place where they-

• 2:22:53Joe Rogan?

  It sounds like a gunshot, though, and there's a delay between the gunshot and the impact in terms of like acoustic readings, like, and I think somebody did an analysis of the distance they believe the shot was taken from, based on the sound, you know, if that is the round that they use, thirty odd six, based on the sound of the gunshot going off and the amount of time before it impacts him. It's a very small amount of time, but it is measurable. And they think that it might have been actually been closer than what they're saying, which is, I think, a hundred and something yards. I forget what the exact distance was. What was the exact distance supposedly? I think it was like a hundred and forty yards or something like that. But the weird thing is like this whole idea of assembling and disassembling, it doesn't work like that, man.

• 2:23:38Speaker 02

  And if the guy's not a professional, was he a professional?

• 2:23:40Joe Rogan?

  No. No, he definitely wasn't a professional, but I'm, like, you could get trained, like, shooting a rifle at a hundred and forty yards with a really good scope. If you've shot a bunch of times with a rifle and you can keep your shit together, is not that far of a shot. You can make that shot.

• 2:23:57Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 2:23:58Joe Rogan?

  People can make that shot. He wasn't even wearing a bulletproof vest, even though he did obviously get hit in the neck. But the thing is, like, if that's the narrative, and I don't know if they're still sticking with the story, but that was what they were saying at first, that he disassembled it and reassembled it. Reassembling a gun does not make it accurate. You have to zero a rifle in, and what that involves in, you get to like whatever the yardage are that you're trying it out, like a hundred yards, and, you know, you squeeze off a trigger, and then you look through the binoculars. Or you have a spotter with a scope next to you.

• 2:24:29Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 2:24:30Joe Rogan?

  He says six inches high right. And so then you adjust it, you adjust the scope. And that, and then do you get it where it's firing and you do it on a rest? It takes a few shots, man. So you have a rest so that you're, you're not, you're rifle, you're not moving the rifle around where it can, you know, be human error can be attributed to the miss.

• 2:24:48Speaker 02

  And if you're on a hot roof, that was a hot roof, wasn't it?

• 2:24:50Joe Rogan?

  Most official and media accounts put the shot at roughly 200 yards with some investigative timeline suggesting a range of about 150 to 200 yards. From Kirk, so somewhere between 150 and 200 yards.

• 2:25:02Speaker 02

  But dude, and also being on a hot roof. Have you ever been on a hot roof?

• 2:25:04Joe Rogan?

  I have.

• 2:25:05Speaker 02

  Dude, it's hot.

• 2:25:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, it wasn't that hot. Well, yeah, it was. It was September. September in Utah, actually not that hot.

• 2:25:12Speaker 02

  It sounds hot.

• 2:25:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't think it was. Cause this, this is happening while I was out elk hunting.

• 2:25:18Speaker 02

  What town did it happen in?

• 2:25:22Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. I'm not sure. It was in Utah, though.

• 2:25:28Speaker 02

  I think it was in southern Utah, wasn't it?

• 2:25:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but Utah's, you know, Utah's a mountain. It's a mountain town.

• 2:25:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, my brother lives in Utah. I like Utah.

• 2:25:39Joe Rogan?

  Like I said, I was in Utah at the time.

• 2:25:41Speaker 02

  Oh, you were?

• 2:25:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I was hunting in the mountains.

• 2:25:43Speaker 02

  Well, that's interesting.

• 2:25:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I don't know nothing. I started getting all these text messages from people wanting me to comment on things. I was like, what are you talking about? I literally didn't know what was going on. And I had to use the Starlink to get online.

• 2:25:58Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 2:25:59Joe Rogan?

  I got a Starlink. It's like, literally, it's like the size of a fucking iPad. And you lay it on the ground, you get high speed internet. It's incredible.

• 2:26:06Speaker 02

  That's cool shit.

• 2:26:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but that's how I had to like research it, find out what the fuck people are talking about.

• 2:26:11Speaker 02

  But did you see the, there was like the facility in Tennessee where they bought the, whatever the mic thing was allegedly? That, that, that place thing got completely obliterated. 16 people died.

• 2:26:22Joe Rogan?

  What? What?

• 2:26:24Speaker 02

  If you can bring that, bring that.

• 2:26:26Joe Rogan?

  Where they made the microphones?

• 2:26:27Speaker 02

  Where they made the, uh, lapel mic that he was wearing. This is like a, this is probably a conspiracy thing or something.

• 2:26:34Joe Rogan?

  Where'd you get this? TikTok?

• 2:26:35Speaker 02

  This is a conspiracy theory or it's something that's absolutely true. I just.

• 2:26:42Joe Rogan?

  I haven't heard that one at all.

• 2:26:43Speaker 02

  I think James Lee said this.

• 2:26:44Joe Rogan?

  But I'm trying to stay away from this shit.

• 2:26:46Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 2:26:47Joe Rogan?

  That's why I'm not, that's why I don't know.

• 2:26:49Speaker 02

  I agree. It's just, I think, it, it, I don't know, it's just a tough.

• 2:26:53Joe Rogan?

  So, my, my point about the round is, it's a large round, and it seems like it would have done more damage, and this is not my opinion, this is the opinion of many experts.

• 2:27:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:27:03Joe Rogan?

  I agree with their opinion, I, it's not uniquely my opinion. I saw it, and I'm like, "Oh my god, he got shot," and then I heard it was a 30 out of 6, and I was like, "Hmm."

• 2:27:12Speaker 02

  That's interesting.

• 2:27:13Joe Rogan?

  It's a little odd.

• 2:27:15Speaker 02

  If you had to get shot, what, what would you like to, if you had to get shot?

• 2:27:18Joe Rogan?

  You want to get killed, right? You don't want to get...

• 2:27:19Speaker 02

  I don't. Shoot me with a 22.

• 2:27:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, okay. Yeah, I'd take a 22, but a 22 kills people.

• 2:27:24Speaker 02

  Where would you take it at?

• 2:27:26Joe Rogan?

  Take it in the shoulder, I guess.

• 2:27:28Speaker 02

  Fuck yeah. Dude?

• 2:27:30Joe Rogan?

  No. You don't want to get shot, period.

• 2:27:32Speaker 02

  I know, I agree, Joe, but I'm just saying, if you had to get shot, how do you like, because here's the thing...

• 2:27:38Joe Rogan?

  Butt cheek, 22, and tighten up, "Grrr!" Take it in the butt cheek, bang! I don't know. Not good.

• 2:27:46Speaker 02

  But there's gonna be a...

• 2:27:47Joe Rogan?

  No, no bullet is good to take, but the point is, that seemed like not enough damage for that kind of round. But I might be wrong. Again, I might be wrong in that bullets do weird things. If it hit the spine and it blew apart, I just feel like you would find a lot of it in there.

• 2:28:05Speaker 02

  I, dude, it's...

• 2:28:06Joe Rogan?

  Especially if there's no exit wound, like, where's, how come you can't find...

• 2:28:11Speaker 02

  The whole thing's bizarre, dude. Do you see the part, Jamie, that I'm talking about where that thing blew up?

• 2:28:15Speaker 06

  Oh yeah, but I'm trying to find a good explanation of it.

• 2:28:17Speaker 02

  Okay, understood, and there may not be one. Thank you, I'm sorry.

• 2:28:20Speaker 06

  No, because I know, I brought it up yesterday.

• 2:28:22Speaker 02

  Oh, you did? Okay. Um, yeah, it's just like, I don't know, I think I'm just scared, and it's like, yeah, what do you...

• 2:28:28Joe Rogan?

  There it is.

• 2:28:29Speaker 06

  I just don't know yet.

• 2:28:29Joe Rogan?

  18 people unaccounted for after deadly explosion rocks Tennessee plant. First responders rushed to Accurate Energetic Systems... That sounds like a CIA operation. ...a facility on the line of Humphreys and Hickman counties that processes ammunition and explosives. But is this the place that made the microphones?

• 2:28:49Speaker 06

  So, that, that, the conspiracy says that the microphone was taken to this place to be converted into like, an explosion...

• 2:28:56Joe Rogan?

  Ahhh.

• 2:28:57Speaker 02

  Somebody found an invoice from it. That's what it was, that, that, that was the piece of information that was going around.

• 2:29:01Joe Rogan?

  Who found that? Is that James Lee found that?

• 2:29:03Speaker 02

  Not sure.

• 2:29:04Joe Rogan?

  See if you can find what James Lee has to say. He's my number one source of information.

• 2:29:08Speaker 02

  That's what I heard, dude. I got to podcast with him.

• 2:29:10Joe Rogan?

  Did you?

• 2:29:10Speaker 02

  I got to meet him, dude.

• 2:29:11Joe Rogan?

  Is he cool?

• 2:29:12Speaker 02

  He's a nice guy, bro. He's fun. Yeah, he's like, well, his story is wild because he was working as a consultant for one of the big pharmaceutical companies, like one of the big ones that we know, right? And he just couldn't say the name, but he could say it, but he never said it.

• 2:29:26Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:29:27Speaker 02

  And then he was in a Zoom one time and they're like, okay, we still have a lot of stockpile from the first vaccination. And that's when he said they started suggesting allegedly that people should then get a second vaccination because they had this first, they had, they still had more of their original vaccine. So it was just like a thing, well, we have more of it. Let's sell it back to them. And that's why.

• 2:29:49Joe Rogan?

  And so he started getting like very skeptical.

• 2:29:51Speaker 02

  So he started really getting skeptical and then he got out of it and he said he just wants to like expose things that he feels like are not real.

• 2:29:57Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:29:58Speaker 02

  Or true.

• 2:29:58Joe Rogan?

  You think he might be CIA? Dun dun dun. You always gotta worry.

• 2:30:02Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 2:30:03Joe Rogan?

  You gotta wonder.

• 2:30:04Speaker 02

  People thought Sean, people thought Sean Ryan was cool.

• 2:30:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I've heard people say that.

• 2:30:07Speaker 02

  Remember?

• 2:30:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:30:08Speaker 02

  That was a thing, but then now people don't.

• 2:30:09Joe Rogan?

  Doesn't seem like he is.

• 2:30:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:30:12Joe Rogan?

  Unless they're being clever. Dun dun dun.

• 2:30:14Speaker 02

  I just want to be able to have like a family and just like think that everybody's going to be able to live.

• 2:30:19Joe Rogan?

  That would be nice. Yeah, that's the thing about ideologies and tribes. If it wasn't for ideologies and tribes, the idea is that we should all be able to live together. It's like, but the problem is it's not fair, the way the world's distributed.

• 2:30:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:30:33Joe Rogan?

  You know, you know the statistic about the 1% of the world? $34,000. You make 34,000 US dollars, you are in the 1% of the world.

• 2:30:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:30:45Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 2:30:47Speaker 02

  I know, it's just tough sometimes to figure it out. You have to pray. That's what I've been trying to do.

• 2:30:51Joe Rogan?

  In order for us to get cheap jeans and an iPhone that only costs a thousand bucks, somebody has to get paid squat. Somebody has to get fucked over. Somebody has to work long hours and live in those Foxconn factories where they have nets to keep people from jumping off the roof, you know?

• 2:31:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:31:10Joe Rogan?

  Bro, you know when you're working in a place and there's so many people jumping off the roof, they just put nets up? You got a problem.

• 2:31:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:31:17Joe Rogan?

  That's not a fun work environment.

• 2:31:19Speaker 02

  Hey, Ron's hitting the nets, guys.

• 2:31:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:31:22Speaker 02

  Oh, Ron.

• 2:31:23Joe Rogan?

  You gotta hit the net again.

• 2:31:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:31:24Joe Rogan?

  You dumb motherfucker, why you keep jumping in the net?

• 2:31:26Speaker 02

  I wanna see what it feels like to jump, but I know it's gonna save me, but I still wanna jump. Somebody comes back from lunch break and they just have the net marks on their face and they're like, ah, you tried it.

• 2:31:38Speaker 02

  But dude, it's just sad, man.

• 2:31:40Joe Rogan?

  It is sad. I mean, that's the-

• 2:31:41Speaker 02

  And we're better than this.

• 2:31:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, humans overall are better than this.

• 2:31:45Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 2:31:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:31:46Speaker 02

  So people that are not acting better than this are not, they're not, I mean, I know we all have mistakes and we all do things that are fucked up, right? But like at a point where you're like-

• 2:31:55Joe Rogan?

  We should all be doing better.

• 2:31:57Speaker 02

  Taking lives and it's not, if it's not the regular people, I feel like it's the governments, man.

• 2:32:01Joe Rogan?

  100%. It is, 100%. Cause if it was just people, we'd all figure out how to get along. Unless you think those people are the infidels, or those people are the goyim, or those people are the Jews, or those people are the Arabs, or whatever you decide.

• 2:32:17Speaker 02

  Slytherin.

• 2:32:18Joe Rogan?

  Those are the other, you decide to other a group of people.

• 2:32:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:32:21Joe Rogan?

  Then it becomes a problem, cause it's us versus them. And then you're back to the same tribal bullshit that needs to turn us all trans. That's why we need to lose our gender and lose our primate dominant instincts and all of our territorial instincts.

• 2:32:34Speaker 02

  Well, I told you I was gonna mail my dick away.

• 2:32:36Joe Rogan?

  We're gonna be all telepathic with big old heads and little tiny mouths, cause we're not gonna use them anymore, cause no one's gonna have a dick to suck.

• 2:32:43Speaker 02

  You know that tiny mouth like that?

• 2:32:46Joe Rogan?

  No one's gonna have a clit to lick.

• 2:32:50Joe Rogan?

  And you communicate with your mind, so your mouth gets just gonna atrophy. And you're gonna get all your food through like a suck hole. You're gonna have just a straw to eat all your food. They're gonna figure out how to make perfect food where it's just like you don't have to go to a restaurant, eat chicken, or have fish. No, no, no, suck on a straw, get all the nutrients you need in this fucking sludge. And the sludge makes, it feels like an orgasm when you take it, that's why you get people to do it. They take it, it lights all their synapses up. Ah, like when you hit that vape.

• 2:33:22Speaker 02

  Vape, boy.

• 2:33:23Joe Rogan?

  First thing in the morning. Ah, gimme a hit of that real quick.

• 2:33:26Speaker 02

  My man, let's go!

• 2:33:29Joe Rogan?

  Cause the first hit's the good one, gimme a hit, ready?

• 2:33:30Speaker 02

  Hit that popper right there, yeah.

• 2:33:34Speaker 02

  Hit that bitch Ricky?

• 2:33:37Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:33:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's that first one.

• 2:33:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:33:42Joe Rogan?

  That's it. That tastes good. What's in that one? That's like a professional one.

• 2:33:45Speaker 02

  It's coffee.

• 2:33:47Joe Rogan?

  Ooh, that's delicious. That's a professional one, though.

• 2:33:50Speaker 02

  It's a trap. Yeah, this one is for outdoors, for outdoors people.

• 2:33:53Joe Rogan?

  Outdoorsy. But it doesn't taste outdoorsy. It tastes like fake coffee.

• 2:33:57Speaker 02

  I'll leave it over here if you do.

• 2:33:58Joe Rogan?

  Nope. I'm good. One hit's good. No, no, no. I know it's a slippery slope. I'll be pulling into the gas station to get an Escobar later.

• 2:34:05Speaker 02

  Oh, Escobars, they, those are the ones, remember you were like, you said you were hiding from yourself at night?

• 2:34:09Joe Rogan?

  Get you, yeah, I had to hide them from myself. They get me.

• 2:34:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:34:14Joe Rogan?

  Sometimes I'll be ashamed, so I take a hit and I blow it into my shirt. Wouldn't want anybody to know I'm doing it.

• 2:34:21Speaker 02

  But your tie shirt, that bitch fucking comes right out the armpits.

• 2:34:26Joe Rogan?

  That's why I wear a hoodie.

• 2:34:27Speaker 02

  Just leave.

• 2:34:28Joe Rogan?

  Put it over the top. I'll rap like a monk.

• 2:34:33Speaker 02

  But tell me, Joe, like, what are some, like, give me some, like, what are some things that, yeah, that we can do to keep us in a space of giving ourselves the best chance to, um, to feel human? Because, yeah, one day you're gonna go to a museum and there's gonna be a smile in there.

• 2:34:50Joe Rogan?

  Well, it has to happen on an individual basis, right? Everybody has to be human to each other on an individual basis. And sometimes it takes something chaotic, like a tragedy, like 9/11, for people to just be cool to each other. You know, I remember, well, I've talked about this before, but post 9/11, everyone was so connected. Everyone was smiling, people were letting you get on the highway, they're letting you get in their lane, they're waving. Everyone had an American flag on their car. We'd been attacked, we were united. You know, and it's just sad that it takes something like that for people to realize, like, this is a gift. To be alive in this incredible country, at this incredible time in history. But we are under the rule of tyrants, you know?

• 2:35:33Joe Rogan?

  And I'm not saying that's the US government's tyrant, or, no individual, but every government that is in control of military, that is involved in these exchanges with other countries, they're run by tyrants. Someone's a tyrant. Whether it's Putin, or this guy, or that guy, or whoever is in charge of Iran right now. They keep the people on the street from using the internet, they kill all the protesters. That's the problem. The problem is people in power. It's not people. People generally are good, especially when they're not starving. When they're not starving and they're not desperate, they're not being attacked. Most people generally are good.

• 2:36:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:36:13Joe Rogan?

  Obviously dependent upon how you grew up and what you were exposed to when you were young and what kind of horrors did you have to see? Were you in a war torn country? You know, were you in a third world place where the cartels run everything?

• 2:36:24Speaker 02

  Did you see those kids in Gaza with like, they had like, they were playing uh doll? And they were like, it was like, they loaded their doll up on a stretcher like they were Fucking heartbreaking.

• 2:36:35Joe Rogan?

  Bro, imagine like the, just the trauma. If you lived in that place, pre-October 7th, it was not fun even back then. It was an open air prison by most accounts.

• 2:36:48Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, they were taking settlers homes. They were just, they'd come and knock into your home and then eventually just take it away.

• 2:36:53Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's a, there's an attitude that a lot of Israelis have that it's all theirs, you know?

• 2:36:59Speaker 06

  Here's an explanation, tinfoil hat time though.

• 2:37:02Joe Rogan?

  Dun dun dun. Exactly, okay, this is a dude named Mike France.

• 2:37:07Speaker 06

  Not, it wasn't James Lee reporting it.

• 2:37:08Joe Rogan?

  Mike Franco, excuse me.

• 2:37:10Speaker 06

  This is the same stuff I've seen elsewhere.

• 2:37:11Joe Rogan?

  Says, October 10th, 2025, exactly one month after Kirk's death, a catastrophic explosion destroyed building 602 at the Accurate Energetic Systems Facility in McEwen, Tennessee. The blast estimated to involve 23,000 pounds of explosives, killed 16 employees, injured several others, and registered as a 1.6 magnitude seismic event. Yo! The US Chemical Safety Board confirmed the site produced casp boosters and miniaturized shaped charges for military and industrial use. Conspiracy theorists allege that AES was the manufacturer of the miniature shaped charge used in Charlie Kirk's assassination.

• 2:37:51Joe Rogan?

  They point to a $425,000 Department of Defense contract awarded to AES in May of 2025 for extra small anti-personnel demolition charges, possibly used in covert operations. The timing of the explosion... Just weeks after Charlie Kirk's death has fueled speculation that it was a deliberate cover up to destroy evidence and eliminate the personnel with knowledge of the technology. So there's the pager attacks, the Lebanon pager attacks. Here's my problem with that explanation, and I'm not saying that I'm right and they're wrong.

• 2:38:24Speaker 02

  Yes, it's a theory.

• 2:38:25Joe Rogan?

  My problem is, I don't see that thing exploding.

• 2:38:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:38:28Joe Rogan?

  So that microphone, I don't see it exploding. I don't see fire coming out of it. If you have a gun, and the gun goes off six inches from someone's neck like that, you're gonna see a charge out of the gun.

• 2:38:37Speaker 02

  That's a great point.

• 2:38:38Joe Rogan?

  And if it's a small device without a barrel, something has to propel that energy, and that's an explosion. And if it explodes, you're gonna see it explode, unless they've developed some sort of way of hiding that.

• 2:38:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:38:51Joe Rogan?

  That I don't know about. But if they're talking about conventional gunpowder, and what they use for bullet rounds, that doesn't seem to make sense to me.

• 2:39:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:39:01Joe Rogan?

  But I might be missing something. I don't know.

• 2:39:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, that's actually a great point that you said.

• 2:39:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:39:06Speaker 02

  I agree with you.

• 2:39:07Joe Rogan?

  It's interesting. Kinda seems like that thing with Spark.

• 2:39:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:39:11Joe Rogan?

  I mean, it's close to his neck, it's blowing his neck up, I mean, it seems odd that it can do that without fire. Doesn't make sense. But I might be missing something. There might be some new technology that I'm not aware of. Let's find out that. Is there any technology that exists where you could have a projectile come out of a small thing, like a microphone that's on someone's neck, and not have fire?

• 2:39:37Speaker 02

  I don't know. Um, I don't know, it may...

• 2:39:40Joe Rogan?

  But there's also some stuff...

• 2:39:41Speaker 02

  It starts to make my head hurt.

• 2:39:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it should make your head hurt. But there's also probably some stuff that we're not hip to.

• 2:39:46Speaker 02

  Oh, for sure, dude.

• 2:39:47Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:39:48Speaker 02

  They come out with stuff all the time that we'll never see, probably.

• 2:39:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, they have drones that look like bugs. They're like, "Bee-ee-ee-ee." Looks like a bug.

• 2:39:55Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 2:39:56Joe Rogan?

  But it's a fucking drone, a little itty-bitty drone.

• 2:39:58Speaker 02

  You're just sitting there spraying Raid on something that's watching y'all fuck, or whatever, at night? That's crazy, dude.

• 2:40:03Joe Rogan?

  It's getting films. Kristi Noem's husband.

• 2:40:07Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, boy. He had them murpers on him, huh?

• 2:40:10Joe Rogan?

  What did he?

• 2:40:11Speaker 02

  What was he doing?

• 2:40:12Joe Rogan?

  Did anybody explain what that was about? Was it really just like a Halloween costume or something?

• 2:40:16Speaker 02

  That's what I thought it was, probably. But then there's some other ones where he's kinda lipstick and he actually-

• 2:40:20Joe Rogan?

  But it could be he was fucking around for like a party or something like that and they got a hold of it.

• 2:40:24Speaker 02

  He was giving Kevin Spacey in a lot of this. You could feel the Kevin Spacey come to in some of those photos.

• 2:40:27Joe Rogan?

  But here's the question. Is that a costume he was wearing for funsies?

• 2:40:32Speaker 02

  That's what I thought.

• 2:40:32Joe Rogan?

  Or is this like a dress up thing? This guy's a freak.

• 2:40:34Speaker 02

  That's what I thought it was, this costume wearing for.

• 2:40:36Joe Rogan?

  It could be, because if it is a costume for funsies and then somebody finds it on your laptop, like, "I gotta explain." "I can't be, we're just fucking around. I was doing Wanda from In Living Color." You know?

• 2:40:48Speaker 02

  Yeah. "I ain't on the gossip, so you ain't heard it from me."

• 2:40:52Joe Rogan?

  I mean-

• 2:40:52Speaker 02

  Was that Wanda? No, which one was Wanda?

• 2:40:54Joe Rogan?

  I forget.

• 2:40:55Speaker 02

  Dude, how great was that show, dude?

• 2:40:56Joe Rogan?

  Amazing show.

• 2:40:57Speaker 02

  Did you love it?

• 2:40:58Joe Rogan?

  Amazing show. Amazing show. One of the greats.

• 2:41:00Speaker 02

  Dude, we would go in our neighborhood afterwards and me, Larry, Eddie, Wayne King, just guys off of my street, dude, we'd go out there and impersonate all of the frickin' characters.

• 2:41:09Joe Rogan?

  Bro, that show was groundbreaking. That's what it says.

• 2:41:11Speaker 06

  Hundreds of messages, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then this was some of them, I think.

• 2:41:15Joe Rogan?

  What do you mean, blah, blah, blah? What was that mean? Messages about what?

• 2:41:18Speaker 06

  I don't, it said there was three models of wom- there was three women, so I think hundreds of messages were probably sent by three women from the scene.

• 2:41:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Kristi Noem's husband.

• 2:41:24Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:41:25Speaker 02

  Didn't she just get let go or something?

• 2:41:27Joe Rogan?

  Hundreds of messages.

• 2:41:28Speaker 06

  Traded selfies.

• 2:41:29Joe Rogan?

  Traded selfies, woman who pledges to worship like a goddess, telling her, "You turned me into a girl."

• 2:41:35Joe Rogan?

  Before asking if he should put on leggings. Oh, okay, but is this, is this real, right? Or is, so the post has not confirmed the details reported by the Mail. This is what Mail? The Daily Mail?

• 2:41:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's originally reported, I think.

• 2:41:50Joe Rogan?

  Let me tell you something about the Daily Mail. They just made an article saying that, uh, "I'm moving out of Austin."

• 2:41:55Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 2:41:56Joe Rogan?

  That, uh, "I'm fed up with Austin, I'm moving out of Austin." That's not true. And that was published by the Daily Mail.

• 2:42:01Speaker 02

  Right. And also, didn't Kristi Noem just go through something where she got let go or something? Is that right?

• 2:42:06Joe Rogan?

  Yes. And not just let go, but involved in a scandal. There's some sort of a money scandal.

• 2:42:12Speaker 02

  Sometimes this kinda shit follows that. It's hard to know. But he also looks like, like, who's that actor right there he looks like a little bit?

• 2:42:18Joe Rogan?

  What are those boobs? Those are crazy.

• 2:42:20Speaker 02

  Will Arnett or something? No, not Will Arnett.

• 2:42:22Joe Rogan?

  He's got crazy fake boobs. Like, they're nuts.

• 2:42:25Speaker 06

  They're just balloons.

• 2:42:26Joe Rogan?

  That's all it is?

• 2:42:27Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:42:27Joe Rogan?

  So how do we know?

• 2:42:28Speaker 02

  You got tricked easy, bro. Joe just got tricked, bro.

• 2:42:31Joe Rogan?

  Well, I don't think they're real. I mean, I thought they were like a fake one that he wore.

• 2:42:35Speaker 02

  But she was thinking about him. Oh shit, she's jambaneing right there. Look at that shit. That's crazy to me, dude.

• 2:42:40Joe Rogan?

  So supposedly there's letters that he was sending to girls that you make me dress up like a girl. But look, again, isn't it crazy that she's involved in some sort of scandal that's about money?

• 2:42:52Speaker 02

  And then this comes out.

• 2:42:52Joe Rogan?

  And then this comes out.

• 2:42:53Speaker 02

  I agree. You have to start to notice that. And then here's the craziest part. At a certain point...

• 2:42:58Joe Rogan?

  Forget about him. Can you find out what she was let go for and what's involved in it? Because there was some sort of a campaign fund scandal or something that has to do something with money. A lot of money, like millions, millions and millions of dollars. And then all of a sudden this happens. You gotta get a little suspicious. In this day and age?

• 2:43:19Speaker 06

  Oh yeah, it was the campaign commercials she got in trouble for because it's like they hired like someone she knew and they're like, she was riding a horse through the fucking...

• 2:43:30Joe Rogan?

  Right, but there's something about the money being inappropriately spent.

• 2:43:34Speaker 06

  It's like a hundred million dollars or something.

• 2:43:36Joe Rogan?

  A hundred million?

• 2:43:37Speaker 06

  Or twenty-eight million. I'm trying to find it in this article, it doesn't say.

• 2:43:39Joe Rogan?

  Let's not comment until we have the specifics.

• 2:43:41Speaker 02

  Joe, do you think that things would be any different with America's relationship in the Middle East right now? If the Republicans hadn't have won the election, if Trump hadn't have won? Or do you think it's all the same?

• 2:43:53Joe Rogan?

  It's a good question.

• 2:43:54Speaker 02

  You think it's all the same like Geppetto's in the distance, like running the strings and it's all...

• 2:44:00Joe Rogan?

  The last administration funded the proxy war in Ukraine.

• 2:44:03Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:44:04Speaker 06

  Two hundred million.

• 2:44:04Speaker 02

  And they were...

• 2:44:05Joe Rogan?

  So a firm tied to Kristi Noem secretly got money from two hundred and twenty million dollar DHS ad contracts.

• 2:44:13Speaker 02

  Dude, for two hundred and twenty million, you could put tits on my husband for two hundred and twenty million, you know?

• 2:44:18Joe Rogan?

  But you know what I'm saying?

• 2:44:19Speaker 02

  And I'm not even a gay guy.

• 2:44:21Joe Rogan?

  Right, but now they're painting her out to be a nutcase, right? Because her husband's a freak. So this firm, not saying that he's not a freak, right? He might really be in a dress up like a girl. That might all be real.

• 2:44:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, let him cook.

• 2:44:34Joe Rogan?

  You gonna make me put on leggings? You might have autogynephilia, right? So, but also, that might be coming out because of this. And there's probably a bunch of people that got some money and they're like, let's try to make this ugly.

• 2:44:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:44:51Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Well, that's scary too, cuz it's like.

• 2:44:53Joe Rogan?

  Who knows? I mean, we don't know anything about the case, right? We don't know anything about either case, the money missing or his fake tits.

• 2:44:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, I never had no fake tits. I mean, I've done some weird shit here and there.

• 2:45:03Joe Rogan?

  Steve almost got a pair of fake tits.

• 2:45:04Speaker 02

  Did he?

• 2:45:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:45:05Speaker 02

  That's too much.

• 2:45:07Joe Rogan?

  I agree.

• 2:45:09Speaker 02

  That's too much.

• 2:45:09Joe Rogan?

  But he's in that, you know, constant perpetual state of having to one up himself. Doing something more and more ridiculous every time.

• 2:45:17Speaker 02

  Do, um...

• 2:45:20Speaker 02

  What do you think is gonna happen? You think we're gonna be okay?

• 2:45:22Joe Rogan?

  I hope so, of course. I don't know.

• 2:45:25Speaker 02

  Do you think about it?

• 2:45:25Joe Rogan?

  I'm confused. I can't believe we went to this war. I, when we started bombing Iran, I was like, this can't be true.

• 2:45:31Speaker 02

  And what about Lebanon now?

• 2:45:32Joe Rogan?

  I know. Israel's invaded Lebanon. Yeah. Yeah.

• 2:45:36Speaker 02

  And it's like, just fucking stop it. What do you need?

• 2:45:40Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're trying to supposedly, they're trying to stop the terrorists.

• 2:45:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's crazy, though. You're the fucking terrorist.

• 2:45:50Speaker 02

  You know what I'm saying? Like, if you wanna stop them, fucking stand in front of the fucking mirror. And start there. But also, what do I know?

• 2:45:58Joe Rogan?

  What do you know?

• 2:45:59Speaker 02

  You're right, I don't. But it's all just like, fuck, there's gotta be some way that we're better than this.

• 2:46:04Speaker 06

  What they're saying is like, if this was found out by, the story about Kristi Noem's husband was found out by like, a newspaper online.

• 2:46:09Speaker 02

  Allegedly.

• 2:46:10Speaker 06

  And that if they can find this out, then obviously hostile intelligence services, according to CIA officer Mark Polymeropoulos, knows this stuff as well.

• 2:46:20Joe Rogan?

  If a media organization finds this out, you can assume that a high degree of confidence that a hostile intelligence service knows this as well. Added former CIA officer. Mark Polymeropoulos.

• 2:46:31Speaker 02

  That's probably.

• 2:46:32Joe Rogan?

  Damaging information like this can be a tantalizing lead for a hostile intelligence source. They approach the person and say, if you work with us, we won't expose this, and if you don't, we will.

• 2:46:42Speaker 06

  So he's posting these online and someone came across them, it's what it sounds like.

• 2:46:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, he might be a freak.

• 2:46:47Speaker 02

  Who cares? Let him fucking cook a little.

• 2:46:49Joe Rogan?

  Look, I think a lot of those people that are involved in government are freaks and I bet their husbands and wives are freaks too. They're fucking weirdos. They wanna be in power.

• 2:46:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's cra- yeah, I- it's-

• 2:46:59Joe Rogan?

  They wanna wear leggings.

• 2:47:00Speaker 02

  It's all crazy. We just have to focus on the things that we can. Like Matt McCusker, he started a garden. It's like ten of the garden that you can have, you know? He grows blueberries and he grows, um-

• 2:47:09Joe Rogan?

  That's the way to do it.

• 2:47:10Speaker 02

  He grew one- he actually, he grew one blueberry his first year.

• 2:47:13Joe Rogan?

  During the congressional hearings, Kristi Noem was probed about accusations of conducting a taxpayer-funded affair with her former aide, Corey Lewandowski, who has since left the Department of Homeland Security.

• 2:47:26Speaker 02

  Corey Lewandowski, dude? Dude, I was in a fucking fantasy football league with that guy.

• 2:47:30Joe Rogan?

  For real?

• 2:47:31Speaker 02

  Yes. Pull him up again, yeah.

• 2:47:33Joe Rogan?

  No kidding? Let me see a photo of him.

• 2:47:35Speaker 02

  Mother effer, dude.

• 2:47:37Joe Rogan?

  She's pretty hot.

• 2:47:38Speaker 02

  See Lu, bro. Oh, this is a different dude.

• 2:47:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, seems like a different dude. Uh, so that guy was the guy who was-

• 2:47:44Speaker 02

  See Lu ain't shit.

• 2:47:45Joe Rogan?

  -banging her. Okay. Supposedly, allegedly. Who knows? But again, when there's a bunch of money that's missing, and there's a scandal, hundreds of millions of dollars, weird shit starts getting tossed around that throw you a house of cards, baby. Go re-watch it. That's- I think that's probably the most accurate depiction of how the government works.

• 2:48:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. Kevin Spacey's a fascinating guy.

• 2:48:10Joe Rogan?

  Well, everybody in that show was great. It was just like a really well-made show.

• 2:48:13Speaker 02

  Yeah. That show was fascinating. He did- he did-

• 2:48:16Joe Rogan?

  Alright, dog, we gotta wrap this up soon.

• 2:48:18Speaker 02

  Dude, that's fine with me. I thought you were- I thought you- I was staying here 'cause you're here.

• 2:48:21Joe Rogan?

  No, I love you.

• 2:48:21Speaker 02

  I love you too, man.

• 2:48:22Joe Rogan?

  But I have things I gotta do.

• 2:48:23Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 2:48:23Joe Rogan?

  Um, are you gonna be around tonight or are you going- going back?

• 2:48:26Speaker 02

  I might stop by, um-

• 2:48:28Joe Rogan?

  Bus Boys, in theaters April 17th, so that's like two weeks from now. Let's fucking go. Two weeks and a few days.

• 2:48:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:48:37Joe Rogan?

  Let's fucking go.

• 2:48:38Speaker 02

  Thank you for letting me come and talk about it.

• 2:48:40Joe Rogan?

  I'm excited for you.

• 2:48:41Speaker 02

  And just to see you. Yeah, I'm excited too, man.

• 2:48:42Joe Rogan?

  I hope it kills it.

• 2:48:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, I just think that-

• 2:48:44Joe Rogan?

  I'm sure it's gonna be really funny with you and David Spade.

• 2:48:47Speaker 02

  We tried our- we did a good job.

• 2:48:49Joe Rogan?

  I'm sure.

• 2:48:49Speaker 02

  Dude, he's so funny.

• 2:48:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I'm sure it's gonna be awesome.

• 2:48:52Speaker 02

  But, um, thank you for everything, dude.

• 2:48:54Joe Rogan?

  My pleasure, bro.

• 2:48:54Speaker 02

  And it's good to see you.

• 2:48:55Joe Rogan?

  Always good to see you.

• 2:48:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:48:56Joe Rogan?

  Come by tonight, let's hang out.

• 2:48:58Speaker 02

  I'll come by. I have a show tonight, but I'll come by.

• 2:48:59Joe Rogan?

  Where you at?

• 2:49:00Speaker 02

  I'm at this Moody Theater. I'm practicing for my special, so I gotta get ready.

• 2:49:03Joe Rogan?

  Um, what time you at the Moody?

• 2:49:04Speaker 02

  Seven.

• 2:49:05Joe Rogan?

  Okay. Come by. We'll be there till- I'm gonna be in- I'll be there for a while.

• 2:49:10Speaker 02

  Okay. I'll come by and say, "Hey."

• 2:49:11Joe Rogan?

  Alright, alright.

• 2:49:12Speaker 02

  Beautiful. Good to see you. And Jamie, thank you so much.

• 2:49:13Joe Rogan?

  Bust Boys, April 17th. Go watch it. We love you guys. Bye.