"Nick Jonas"

Remember your gum: it’s Nick Jonas. Family chiropractors, Scrooge At 8, and the ‘other NJ’s’ finest hair salons, diners, bowling alleys, & shopping malls. “Just collapse on the floor,” on another piping-hot new SmartLess.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:01Sean Hayes?

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• 0:44Sean Hayes?

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• 1:34Sean Hayes?

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• 2:10Sean Hayes?

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• 2:55Sean Hayes?

  Good morning from both coasts. Oh, we're recording from both coasts. Jason's still in New York City.

• 3:01Will Arnett?

  Sean, are we gonna take a look at the weather first? Or are we gonna go back down to the news?

• 3:04Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, we're gonna take a look at the weather before we get into the feel-good piece. You know, we're gonna look at the weather.

• 3:07Jason Bateman?

  Traffic on the threes.

• 3:08Sean Hayes?

  We're gonna look at the weather right after this wonderful episode of Smartless.

• 3:13Will Arnett?

  Let's go.

• 3:31Sean Hayes?

  Good morning, everybody.

• 3:33Jason Bateman?

  Good morning.

• 3:34Will Arnett?

  Hi, Sean. Sorry, are you about to launch into something?

• 3:36Sean Hayes?

  No.

• 3:37Will Arnett?

  He's like, "Good morning, everybody."

• 3:38Jason Bateman?

  Remember when Sean, remember when Sean used to have a bunch of talking points prepared for the coffee chat?

• 3:43Sean Hayes?

  I always do. I have them today if you want.

• 3:45Jason Bateman?

  Do you really?

• 3:46Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 3:47Jason Bateman?

  Do you have it written down on a piece of paper?

• 3:48Sean Hayes?

  I jotted down a couple of things that happened.

• 3:50Will Arnett?

  Does Nick do it?

• 3:52Sean Hayes?

  No, I do it.

• 3:53Will Arnett?

  Huh.

• 3:54Sean Hayes?

  Just right before we sign on.

• 3:55Jason Bateman?

  Does Scotty ever, ever recommend or suggest, "Hey, you know what would be fun for you guys to talk about tomorrow?" Ever?

• 4:02Sean Hayes?

  No, not really, no.

• 4:03Jason Bateman?

  All right, so what are the hot topics today?

• 4:05Will Arnett?

  Yeah, let's go for a hot topic for Sean.

• 4:07Jason Bateman?

  What do you got down there?

• 4:08Sean Hayes?

  So my sister was here, you know?

• 4:10Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, the Tracy listener, the Tracy not only exists, but she had a little stay at Sean's house.

• 4:18Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 4:19Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, and Jay, you called, and she talked to you, and you talked to her.

• 4:21Jason Bateman?

  And you two were spooning, right? I mean, like...

• 4:23Sean Hayes?

  Spooning in bed.

• 4:24Jason Bateman?

  Yeah. Scotty was out.

• 4:26Sean Hayes?

  There's nothing weird about that.

• 4:27Jason Bateman?

  No, you guys were cuddling.

• 4:30Will Arnett?

  It was fun.

• 4:31Jason Bateman?

  It's fine.

• 4:33Will Arnett?

  We could use, you know what, we could use more cuddling in this world.

• 4:36Jason Bateman?

  We could, and maybe a little less gum.

• 4:39Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 4:41Jason Bateman?

  Fuck.

• 4:46Sean Hayes?

  Every show.

• 4:47Jason Bateman?

  I know it's hard to remember, because you know, we do these like a week apart, and then you forget a lot in six days. It's difficult.

• 4:57Jason Bateman?

  Is there like a nicotine cream? What about if you found like a cream you could just put on your shoulders or something?

• 5:02Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, what about, yeah. Yeah, is it like, like, like, like a testosterone cream?

• 5:06Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 5:07Sean Hayes?

  That I've read about.

• 5:09Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, I've heard about that too.

• 5:11Will Arnett?

  Oh no.

• 5:12Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, oh yeah, it's not working. It's not working. I need to do a few more clicks. So, Shawnee, hot topic.

• 5:19Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, so Tracy's here and we watched the documentary, you guys gotta see this, called Trust Me, The False Prophet.

• 5:25Jason Bateman?

  Wait, is this the one about the Mormon?

• 5:26Will Arnett?

  Oh, I heard about it, yes, somebody told me about it.

• 5:28Sean Hayes?

  Well, no, it's not about the Mormon, it's about the fundamentalist church of Latter Day Saints.

• 5:31Jason Bateman?

  Isn't that, is that not Mormonism?

• 5:33Will Arnett?

  Which is an extension of, it's an offshoot.

• 5:35Sean Hayes?

  Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, yeah.

• 5:36Jason Bateman?

  So, yeah, so Sam Bateman, right?

• 5:39Sean Hayes?

  Yes, that's right, I thought of you.

• 5:41Jason Bateman?

  Oh, but you did. Um, yeah, it's, uh, I don't know.

• 5:45Will Arnett?

  Explain yourself, Jason.

• 5:46Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, I don't know if there's a relation there, but I would guess that there is. I mean, our family is, uh, is out of Utah. So, I mean.

• 5:56Sean Hayes?

  No.

• 5:56Will Arnett?

  That was your, that was probably your first tip, I guess, huh? Was that, was that what kinda got you going in that direction?

• 6:03Jason Bateman?

  I'm not an experienced investigator, but those are two hot leads, name and location.

• 6:08Will Arnett?

  Fuck, nothing gets past you, dude, it's unreal.

• 6:11Sean Hayes?

  Name and location.

• 6:16Sean Hayes?

  So, how is Sam doing, Jason?

• 6:18Jason Bateman?

  Uh, yeah, I have not spoken to him for years. Um, no, I have no idea what these people are.

• 6:24Will Arnett?

  I haven't seen him since the family reunion.

• 6:26Jason Bateman?

  But Amanda did actually just this morning say that she finished it and she said it's really worth watching, that it lands the plane very well.

• 6:35Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, it's sad and fascinating and all those things.

• 6:38Jason Bateman?

  Well, you know, there's a Bateman that runs through that great John Krakauer book that I optioned and produced that.

• 6:47Will Arnett?

  Under the Banner of Heaven.

• 6:49Jason Bateman?

  Under the Banner of Heaven.

• 6:50Will Arnett?

  It's a great read. If you've never read it, it's a great read.

• 6:53Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, it's really tragic, but there is a Bateman that goes through that and I bet he's related.

• 6:57Will Arnett?

  You guys, you made that, right?

• 6:59Jason Bateman?

  We did, yeah.

• 7:00Will Arnett?

  Yeah, how was it?

• 7:01Sean Hayes?

  I'm gonna watch that.

• 7:02Jason Bateman?

  Andrew Garfield plays a lead in that.

• 7:05Will Arnett?

  Yeah, how was it?

• 7:05Jason Bateman?

  On FX. Great.

• 7:06Will Arnett?

  Yeah, be honest. How was it?

• 7:08Sean Hayes?

  Oh, I gotta see that.

• 7:09Will Arnett?

  I never saw it. I do want to see it. I loved that. I loved that book.

• 7:13Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, that book is.

• 7:14Will Arnett?

  That story is insane.

• 7:15Sean Hayes?

  What's it like generally in a one sentence?

• 7:17Jason Bateman?

  There's these.

• 7:18Will Arnett?

  It's about 250 pages, probably.

• 7:22Jason Bateman?

  These brothers kill another brother's child and wife because they say they got a sign from up above.

• 7:30Will Arnett?

  It's not fun. It's not a fun.

• 7:32Sean Hayes?

  Wait, based on a true story or?

• 7:34Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, it's a full true story, but what's interesting about the structure of the book. Yeah, every other chapter is sort of, it's telling the linear birth and progression of the religion of Mormonism. And you can see how, well, you can make your own decisions about.

• 7:51Will Arnett?

  Joseph Smith coming from upstate New York and all that sort of stuff and then he sort of breaks that down in his way. But either way, wherever you land on it, it is a kind of, I thought it was an excellent book. He's, God, Krakauer is something else.

• 8:04Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, he's the man.

• 8:05Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, that.

• 8:06Will Arnett?

  Oh, Sean, sorry. One more. Sorry, let's get to the next topic. Sorry.

• 8:09Jason Bateman?

  No, we haven't even explored this one. So there you are with Tracy. You're watching the doc.

• 8:14Will Arnett?

  Are you worried that you just, you can't be, you just can't be yourself in the moment? Is that what it is?

• 8:19Jason Bateman?

  No, we can totally.

• 8:22Sean Hayes?

  By the way, every day.

• 8:25Jason Bateman?

  Was that it? You were just gonna make a recommendation for media?

• 8:28Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, that. And also, I saw, now that we're talking about documentaries, Jay, I finally saw the Apocaly-Optimistic.

• 8:35Jason Bateman?

  Oh, yeah, the AI documentary.

• 8:37Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, yeah. That was wild.

• 8:40Jason Bateman?

  So what do you think? Are you bullish or pessimistic about AI?

• 8:46Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, no, I can't be pessimistic. I can't. I can't. I have to believe, just so I can get through every day, that AI and us will work together. And AI is not gonna destroy the world.

• 8:59Jason Bateman?

  That mankind will do the right thing when presented with an option to use this incredible technology for good or for bad.

• 9:08Will Arnett?

  I always believe humanity will win out in the end.

• 9:18Will Arnett?

  Hey, guys, you know?

• 9:19Sean Hayes?

  That is so good.

• 9:21Will Arnett?

  Speaking of humanity.

• 9:24Sean Hayes?

  I have to believe.

• 9:27Jason Bateman?

  Wait, Will, are you about to get to the intro?

• 9:30Will Arnett?

  It's still me.

• 9:31Jason Bateman?

  Oh, sorry. Wait, Sean, you had one more bullet point or not?

• 9:35Sean Hayes?

  No.

• 9:36Jason Bateman?

  It was just cultural recommendations?

• 9:38Will Arnett?

  Oh, Sean, we should mention just our little side menu, our little side thing, which is Sean's Menu, which is becoming our new, it's our new, it's our new feature called Sean's Menu. Last night, Jason and I got, received a text in the chat, and a picture of the beginnings of, beginning of a smores extravaganza on a Monday night.

• 10:02Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, I'm not sure it was fully dark out yet, though.

• 10:05Will Arnett?

  No, not fully, not fully dark, not in a beach setting, not on a vacation around a campfire, just a Monday night in Los Angeles.

• 10:12Jason Bateman?

  Just a standard Monday night, yeah, regular dessert. It was a...

• 10:15Will Arnett?

  Dessert was at 6:15, by the way. Okay, keep going.

• 10:19Jason Bateman?

  And it was elegantly laid out on a plate with proper ratios of graham crackers, chocolate and mushroom, not mushrooms, sorry, marshmallows there on the plate. Very dignified, like this is your smores kit that the chef laid out for you?

• 10:37Sean Hayes?

  No, I did it myself. I was all alone. Scotty was out of town. I was all alone. I had so.

• 10:42Will Arnett?

  That was just for you?

• 10:44Sean Hayes?

  That was just for me, yeah. And I had four in a row. But wait, this is the hack. This is the smores hack.

• 10:49Will Arnett?

  Oh, yeah, tell us.

• 10:50Sean Hayes?

  I take the chocolate and I microwave it so it's more like a sauce. And then I pour the sauce onto the marshmallow.

• 10:57Will Arnett?

  You figured it out, motherfucker.

• 10:58Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, so it's not like you're just biting into a chocolate bar.

• 11:01Will Arnett?

  Sean, why don't you just stuff it all in your mouth and then hop in a sauna and just let it melt in your mouth?

• 11:08Will Arnett?

  Okay?

• 11:10Sean Hayes?

  By the way, that's not a bad idea.

• 11:13Will Arnett?

  All right. What are you doing? I'm making smores.

• 11:20Jason Bateman?

  Most people go in there to lose some weight. Sean goes in there to really dive into the sweets.

• 11:28Jason Bateman?

  Or to reheat any sort of food. He'll just walk in there with his plate.

• 11:33Will Arnett?

  Fucking hell, man.

• 11:34Jason Bateman?

  Ding dong.

• 11:35Will Arnett?

  Unbelievable.

• 11:36Sean Hayes?

  Why waste the wattage?

• 11:38Will Arnett?

  Well, while you were doing that, I'll say this. Our guest, Sean, you can like this. He started performing on Broadway at the age of seven.

• 11:44Sean Hayes?

  Really funny.

• 11:45Will Arnett?

  Okay?

• 11:46Sean Hayes?

  Yes.

• 11:47Will Arnett?

  Seven years old, starting on Broadway and has continued on, on and off on Broadway amongst the other amazing things he's done, which have been, had multiple number one albums, chart topping singles in a group. And also as a, with a solo career.

• 12:01Sean Hayes?

  Hugh Jackman.

• 12:02Will Arnett?

  And incredible acting credits across film, TV, big studio movies, prestige TV, then returned to Broadway, been nominated for Golden Globes, headlined global tours, coached on The Voice, okay? And built a career that goes, that went from teen idol to serious actor, to and legitimate musician all the way through, which is not.

• 12:24Sean Hayes?

  It's Howie Mandel.

• 12:25Will Arnett?

  Okay, he's got his new, his new record came out February 6th, Sunday Best, marking his first solo project in nearly five years. Please welcome to the show Nick Jonas, you guys.

• 12:37Sean Hayes?

  Nick Jonas!

• 12:38Jason Bateman?

  Come on.

• 12:41Jason Bateman?

  You look nothing like Howie Mandel.

• 12:43Sean Hayes?

  Or Hugh Jackman.

• 12:46Sean Hayes?

  Well, give it time, give it time.

• 12:48Jason Bateman?

  Hello Nick.

• 12:48Speaker 03

  Good to see you guys.

• 12:49Jason Bateman?

  Nick, it's you. This feels overdue.

• 12:53Speaker 03

  What an intro. That was great.

• 12:54Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 12:55Will Arnett?

  Nick, I just saw you. It's so insane.

• 12:58Jason Bateman?

  I saw it at the Golden Globes.

• 12:59Speaker 03

  I know.

• 13:00Jason Bateman?

  That was so lovely.

• 13:01Speaker 03

  We were backstage at the, the holding room for the presenters. My wife was, was presenting you guys.

• 13:06Jason Bateman?

  It's not a big room. It, that, that's one of the, one of the bleakest, most depressing rooms in Hollywood.

• 13:12Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 13:12Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 13:13Jason Bateman?

  It's just, it's way too small. The ceiling's low.

• 13:16Speaker 03

  I did enjoy listening to you guys rehearse though. It was the masterclass in, in bit rehearsal. And you guys crushed the bit. It went viral after. It was great.

• 13:27Will Arnett?

  Thank you.

• 13:27Jason Bateman?

  Do we, do we honestly rehearse?

• 13:29Sean Hayes?

  You don't remember that?

• 13:31Speaker 03

  It was a little side room.

• 13:31Will Arnett?

  At the monitor.

• 13:32Speaker 03

  You ran it back like six times. It was great.

• 13:34Jason Bateman?

  We did?

• 13:35Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 13:35Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 13:36Will Arnett?

  Just for timing.

• 13:37Jason Bateman?

  And then I'll bet it was nothing like, just for timing.

• 13:39Speaker 03

  Just for timing. You gotta do it.

• 13:40Jason Bateman?

  Get familiar with the piece.

• 13:41Will Arnett?

  Didn't you think that Jason should have spoken up? He was a little soft on that one line.

• 13:45Jason Bateman?

  If we were still rolling, I'd go back and raise the volume a little bit.

• 13:48Will Arnett?

  Yeah. Cause you were turned away. The attitude was great and the performance was great. We just needed to hear it better.

• 13:54Jason Bateman?

  Ah, cheers, man.

• 13:55Speaker 03

  The people loved it. It was great. I loved it.

• 13:58Sean Hayes?

  Cheers.

• 14:00Speaker 03

  Um, thanks for having me, guys.

• 14:01Jason Bateman?

  Yes.

• 14:02Speaker 03

  Welcome, man, of the pod.

• 14:04Will Arnett?

  Dude, it is so overdue. It's, it's so overdue that you're here. And, and like I said in my, in the intro, as you go back and you look at all the stuff you've done from such a young age and how much incredible success you've not just had, but continue to have. It's remarkable, man. It's so, it's so singularly, like that is so tough to do and it's really, it's really a tribute to your talent. It's unbelievable. It's just that you've always, at everything you've done, you've excelled and you've managed to sort of keep it, you know, you've done top rated stuff and that, and I wonder if for you, do you, starting young like that, did you feel pressure like, I gotta keep this going?

• 14:48Will Arnett?

  Did you ever feel that pressure of starting, starting so young?

• 14:53Speaker 03

  I think to a certain degree, yeah, you know, I started as you mentioned before on Broadway as a kid. Was lucky enough to do a few shows and then it was actually a family friend that heard a song. Oh, does it sound bad?

• 15:07Jason Bateman?

  No, no, family friend, those stories never really go well.

• 15:12Speaker 03

  I thought this. I'm on set right now, there's trucks behind me, this little shit. This one does go well. Family friend, he also happened to be our chiropractor. He was like,

• 15:19Jason Bateman?

  Oh my gosh. We're gonna take a short break.

• 15:25Speaker 03

  He told my dad, he's like, look, you know, I know Nick recorded this song. I'd love to play it for this guy who works at Sony Music Group.

• 15:33Jason Bateman?

  Did he ever, did he ask you to just relax?

• 15:39Speaker 03

  Thankfully, thankfully not. But, you know, started recording and then we got signed as a trio, me and the brothers. And I think, you know, because we had, we had sort of, early in our career,

• 15:53Speaker 03

  had a big failure. Our first album did not do well. We got dropped by our first label.

• 15:57Jason Bateman?

  Oh.

• 15:57Speaker 03

  It took, it took, you know, us finding a home with Disney and our partners there to kind of really step into the next phase. And I think that resilience came from that early perceived failure.

• 16:11Jason Bateman?

  Right.

• 16:11Will Arnett?

  Right, right, right. Well, that's, yeah, I mean, did you have, am I right about, first of all, I read somewhere that, and I don't, you tell me if it's true, that you were first discovered by like a talent manager or push towards one when you were at, at like a barber shop, like getting a haircut or something?

• 16:27Speaker 03

  I was at a hair salon with my mom, yeah. I was six. And I was always singing, you know, before I was even talking. And she was getting her hair done. I grew up in Jersey, and so we're known for our hair salons, diners, bowling alleys, and

• 16:40Will Arnett?

  Sure, sure.

• 16:41Speaker 03

  shopping malls.

• 16:43Speaker 03

  And, yeah, so she was getting her hair done, I was singing. The woman next to her said, hey, my son is Gav Roch on Broadway. I think your son could do it. You should go see this talent manager. So, we went in to go see Shirley Grant.

• 16:55Sean Hayes?

  Was it, was it Gaten Materazzo by any chance? Didn't he play Gav Roch on Broadway?

• 16:59Speaker 03

  Uh, no, he played Gav Roch later than I did, I think.

• 17:04Sean Hayes?

  Okay.

• 17:04Speaker 03

  I did it in early 2000s.

• 17:08Speaker 03

  But- Basically, went into this talent manager's office. Her name's Shirley Grant. Rest in peace Shirley. She's got her walls lined with like, you know, headshots of little actor kids, weird actor kids who look you in the eye and shake your hand really intense.

• 17:21Will Arnett?

  He's looking at you JB.

• 17:23Jason Bateman?

  He is.

• 17:23Will Arnett?

  He is looking at you. Did you notice that? He's looking at you.

• 17:27Speaker 03

  And she started sending me on auditions and that was kind of the start to my run doing shows and...

• 17:33Will Arnett?

  That's so nuts.

• 17:34Sean Hayes?

  Wait, so you played Gavroche?

• 17:37Speaker 03

  I played Gavroche.

• 17:38Jason Bateman?

  Who's Gavroche? I'm embarrassed to say I don't know.

• 17:40Speaker 03

  He's the kid that basically is the kind of narrator for the second chapter of the story of basically when Valjean... Have you seen Les Mis?

• 17:50Sean Hayes?

  Of Les Mis.

• 17:50Will Arnett?

  Of Les Mis.

• 17:52Jason Bateman?

  Oh, oh, oh, oh. I don't know.

• 17:53Sean Hayes?

  He's the only kid in the whole...

• 17:55Speaker 03

  Spoiler alert, he gets shot in the head and he gets killed. And it's, as a child actor, it's a dream role. You get to do the old snap of the head back and die. It's epic. I also played Chip the teacup.

• 18:08Will Arnett?

  Wait, wait, wait, full sidebar, pause. Have either, you have, you've just admitted, have you guys ever been shot in a production, in a show or anything that you've had to get shot?

• 18:19Jason Bateman?

  No. Yeah, I think I've bored you guys with my Little House on the Prairie story of getting shot. First time I ever got shot.

• 18:25Will Arnett?

  No, no, I've never heard it.

• 18:27Jason Bateman?

  I was, what was I, 10? 10 or 11, something like that.

• 18:31Will Arnett?

  God, they're shooting a lot of kids in these productions. Okay, keep going. Jesus Christ.

• 18:36Jason Bateman?

  First big gig, I'm playing this kid. Me and my older brother, we walk into a bank there in the little western town and it's in the middle of getting robbed. But we don't know that. We walk in, ding ding, the door chime goes and the bank robbers turn around and see these two little kids and he fires and hits me right in the chest or the leg or whatever the hell it is. We shoot the rehearsal, Michael Landon's directing this episode. We shoot the rehearsal, so so I get shot and I throw myself against a wall. I slide down the wall and when I get to the floor, I start shaking and quivering like one does, because you know, all you can see is in the movies and a TV.

• 19:21Jason Bateman?

  And then I slowly expire. And, and all I hear is total silence. My eyes are closed on the floor and, and I just hear Michael Lanning go, "Okay, we're gonna cut." And he walks slowly over to me, I still have my eyes closed, I'm still in, and so they, and he whispers in my ear, "Okay, we're gonna do another one, and this time I'm gonna want you to just collapse on the floor." "Okay, next time you get shot, I want you to just slowly, just collapse and quietly expire." "Here we go, everybody back to work." I was so mortified and embarrassed. I mean, I was just, you know, vibrating and, and throwing myself.

• 19:59Will Arnett?

  Sure.

• 19:59Jason Bateman?

  Fucking terrible.

• 20:01Will Arnett?

  Oh, God bless you, JB, that's good.

• 20:03Speaker 03

  That's good.

• 20:04Will Arnett?

  So, so, so you do play.

• 20:06Sean Hayes?

  So you were gonna say, after Gap, you said after Gap, Ross, you played.

• 20:09Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, so I, I did, my first show, I did a Christmas Carol, which is kind of a seasonal show, so technically not a Broadway show, but Annie Get Your Gun was my first show with Reba McEachran. I did it with Frank Langella, actually, it was pretty incredible. He played Scrooge. I was, actual character name, Scrooge at Eight.

• 20:29Speaker 03

  And I was the understudy, I was the understudy for Tiny Tim, and, and in the eight years that this show had run, they'd, they'd never had a Tiny Tim cover have to go on. So they just didn't bother rehearse the Tiny Tim covers.

• 20:41Jason Bateman?

  Oh, shit.

• 20:42Speaker 03

  And the, the year I did it, you know, again, my, my dad gets a call and they say, "Hey, um, Nick's gonna go on for Tiny Tim today, we gotta get you here an hour before the show to do a put-in." So, I, I rushed over to the theater and, and basically run the five scenes that Tiny Tim has and the two songs. And, you know, thrust, thrown out there for the, the opening kind of song, and, um, literally my mind goes blank, 16 bars of just silence.

• 21:10Jason Bateman?

  Oh, God.

• 21:11Speaker 03

  As the music's playing, this really intimidating conductor's there looking me in the eye, and it was a good entryway into live theater, you know, shit happens, you gotta roll with it. But as an eight-year-old, I was pretty mortified.

• 21:22Jason Bateman?

  Scrooge at Eight would be a good title for autobiography if you ever decided to write one.

• 21:28Speaker 03

  I'm gonna write that down, actually. It's a good idea.

• 21:31Jason Bateman?

  Wait, did that instill a fear in you about performing going forward?

• 21:39Speaker 03

  Well, the conductor came up to me after and I was expecting him to sort of scold me or something like a teacher would. Instead, he came down on my level and he said, "Things happen. You just gotta keep going. Next time."

• 21:49Will Arnett?

  He said, "We're just gonna drop to the floor."

• 21:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, just collapse.

• 21:53Will Arnett?

  We're just collapsing.

• 21:54Jason Bateman?

  We're about to reset and expire.

• 21:58Will Arnett?

  And you're just gonna collapse and expire. Actually, I wonder if, hearing you say that and Sean, your question, I wonder if it had the opposite effect of having that. You kind of mentioned like your first record wasn't the hit that you, it didn't go well, that you had that experience at eight on Broadway. In a lot of ways, it probably galvanizes you and, because if you can kind of get through that at such a young age.

• 22:21Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 22:23Will Arnett?

  Right? In a lot of ways, you kind of go like, "Well, fuck, I've done that already." Like, you know, otherwise you're waiting for that moment your whole life. Like, when is gonna be the time that I'm gonna completely bottle it in the moment, you know?

• 22:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, and I've had a few of those too, later on. Moments that certainly didn't go the way I hoped. But yeah, I do think that that early, those early experiences helped kind of create a foundation that led to me not losing it.

• 22:50Jason Bateman?

  Yeah. Yeah. What about the things that went way better than you thought they were going to go at an early age? Like, for instance, you know, the incredible fandom of like, all of these like, girls screaming at you, even at an age where you might like, you're just starting to like, get all crazy about girls and like, has, is that sort of thing, now that you're an adult and you have, you've managed to weather the transition between sort of like teen idol into, into an adult, you know, professional actor, performer, etc.

• 23:31Jason Bateman?

  You know, how does all that stuff kind of transition for you in your, in your head about, you know, how much of it? It is real, how much of it is just part of the job? Or what do you do with all that sort of like that ego surplus? And you know, because it's all kind of junk food to a certain extent. And like, you got to figure out where to place it all, right?

• 23:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a great question. I mean, I always think it's funny when people frame an answer this way. So forgive me for doing it. But I think, you know, one of the biggest misconceptions about us and odd to acknowledge your own perceived misconception.

• 24:05Jason Bateman?

  Sure.

• 24:06Speaker 03

  But it was was that because we worked with Disney and the core of our demo was, you know, primarily teens.

• 24:13Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 24:14Speaker 03

  That, you know, there's no way this music came from an honest source or that it came from us even.

• 24:20Jason Bateman?

  Right, right, right.

• 24:22Speaker 03

  And it was a really bizarre thing to sort of, you know, be in a spot where at 13, 14 years old, I was I was experiencing all the things you're talking about. First love, first heartbreak, real big, you know, human emotions that I was able to put into song in a way that spoke directly to that audience. And when you ask about like, what's something I thought went incredibly right? It would be that, the fact that our dad raised us on this this great bed of classics. We discovered our own kind of sound and found our own voice creatively. And I had this this outlet that both helps me process these big feelings, but also connected in a way that that frankly, now, you know, we play these songs 20 years later

• 25:07Speaker 03

  as men and dads and husbands in our 30s. It's even more resonant with the audience because they've grown with us.

• 25:12Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 25:13Speaker 03

  And tracking that over time has just been the most fascinating thing and pretty, pretty special to be, you know?

• 25:22Jason Bateman?

  Mm hmm.

• 25:24Jason Bateman?

  And we will be right back.

• 25:28Jason Bateman?

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• 26:08Sean Hayes?

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• 26:49Sean Hayes?

  And now, back to the show.

• 26:52Will Arnett?

  You mentioned that in your dad raising you on those classics and musically. Like, so what was that? Who is the person? Did they discover that, oh, that you had a talent for music? That it kind of came from you? Or your parents? Were they musical in that way? Like, was that something that they... Came from them?

• 27:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, our dad is a really gifted musician. He's a pianist, a vocalist, and he was actually a pastor when we first started. We lived in Dallas for a bit, where I was born. And then we moved to Jersey and he became a senior pastor at this church there. And music was always a part of our life. And, you know, I think my latest album, Sunday Best, came out in February. It really is kind of, musically speaking, not so much lyrically, but musically touches on some of those early musical roots in the church. But the thing is that he also really educated us on everything else. The Bee Gees, the Beatles, Stevie Wonder, Carole King, all the greats.

• 27:55Speaker 03

  And we had, you know, a real sort of deep-dive musical education by way of those hour-long drives from our house in Wykoff, New Jersey, to the city to go perform in shows there. And eventually, you know, we left the church or were sort of pushed out because our music wasn't Christian music, right? And so some of the people in leadership there were upset about that and thought that we were sinning.

• 28:21Will Arnett?

  Sure.

• 28:23Speaker 03

  We took a different path.

• 28:24Will Arnett?

  Now he's looking at you, Sean. He was looking at you. Yeah, no, I got it. So, Sean, you want to talk about the time that you went off in New Jersey? Okay, so listen.

• 28:34Speaker 03

  To start, yeah.

• 28:37Will Arnett?

  But that's so, so you had all this music and then you start and then you start acting and you have consistently gone back and seamlessly back and forth between the two and and sometimes the marriage of the two in in in musical like on Broadway and then

• 28:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:53Will Arnett?

  And and then and then doing serious acting roles and doing all that stuff and is there one, I mean, you don't have a lane. You have you're occupying multiple lanes at the same time. And how do you approach it? Do you have like an approach like, well, now this year I want to spend more time making music or do it? Or does it just kind of flow?

• 29:12Speaker 03

  It just kind of flows. And as of course, you you all know that the lead time for a film or TV project is is so much longer, you know, than than the turnaround time we can have in music. I could I could record a song this afternoon and then if I wanted to, put it out this evening.

• 29:28Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 29:29Speaker 03

  But there's so many people that have to weigh into, you know, how something gets made on the film and TV side, which is something that is sort of new for me, you know, on the development side of things. And I always love hearing you guys talk about your process with development and and, you know, kind of what that's been like, because the last, I'd say, six years, kind of during and post COVID, outside of touring and music and all that, that's been a really exciting thing is to to sort of do my best to to forge a path where I'm a little bit more in the driver's seat than I've I've been in the past.

• 30:03Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 30:04Speaker 03

  Been really fortunate to be a part of some great projects. But when you can start to develop things that you feel like are the right next steps for you and you're you're more in a sort of position to to make decisions, it's a really empowering thing.

• 30:15Jason Bateman?

  How are you finding your your like, just to sort of follow up further on Will's question there, like, are when what what do you what do you find is drawing you more towards acting at times and what's putting you more in a music mood? Is it, you know, is it?

• 30:36Speaker 03

  Money?

• 30:37Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, but there are certain, like, I guess the question behind it all is, is what is the difference in creative fulfillment that you find between acting and music? You know, what is, what's touching you, you know, in your, in your, in your most core place versus some other place? I don't know.

• 31:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think that, honestly, becoming a father, we have a four-year-old. That really changed everything for me as a creative, both on the music side and as an actor. I've always loved acting and I've kind of bounced between, you know, things like, you know, Jumanji, for instance, which is very big and fun and exciting and incredible cast. And then smaller things, you know, the one million dollar movie, right? The thing that you just kind of grind and I love both and think that it's amazing to kind of have that, that range.

• 31:45Speaker 03

  And on the music side, you know, the driver is the fans, truly. And I'm not just saying that. It's bizarre to get to do anything for as long as we've now been fortunate enough to do, especially with the way it kind of began, you know, with, there is a reality to the fact that teen fans or that sort of heartthrob label can be a challenging thing to step out of.

• 32:14Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 32:15Speaker 03

  And I think my, our daughter and the experiences I'm having with her have me way more connected to the words I'm saying, no matter what they are and kind of my worldview and everything else. So I can't really say one thing is more inspiring or exciting, but, but actually looking at the world through her eyes in a sense gives me just a better perspective and a deeper, you know, sort of angle on what I want to be doing.

• 32:40Jason Bateman?

  Well, and you've also had the, you know, part of your experience has been, a big part of it, on and off, has been, continued to work with family, right? To work with your brothers on and off. I mean, that's a very, that's also very unique. And in addition to...

• 32:58Will Arnett?

  Your solo work as a musician.

• 33:00Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 33:00Will Arnett?

  Uh, and then your solo work, if you will, as, as an actor going from project to project. One of the sort of the, one of the through lines has been, has been, uh, what you've created with, with your brothers. And I wonder, is, is that something that you like? Is that something that feels good as, as a sort of a steady thing that's always there that you can kind of lean on? That, that idea of that family and you guys doing that stuff together, what's that experience like?

• 33:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's, it's, um, it's incredible to get to do, you know, anything with, with the people you love and, and to share and, and those experiences. And, um, you know, we, we also had a moment where it wasn't good. You know, we, we've had that, that chapter of the journey too, where we had to basically say, let's, let's not do the music together anymore. Work together so that the, the family at, you know, the table can, can still all be there and love each other. And, and, um, you know, I think it, it took us sort of going through that, that season and coming out the other side in a healthy way.

• 34:06Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, cause you guys went through like a, you know, the, the period in, in everyone's life of change that happens between the ages of like 15 and 20 is massive, you know, like, uh, and that was the, you guys were just tied at the hip during those, those years, yes? Or I mean, what?

• 34:27Speaker 03

  That, yeah, absolutely. It was, uh, you know, it was both good and bad. There are times you, I look up and I look at folks who, who went through similar experiences to us, who, who were on sort of a solo journey.

• 34:41Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 34:41Speaker 03

  Um, and didn't have that built in support system. Uh, cause we would check each other too, you know, which was, which was important to the dynamic and also be a shoulder to, to lean on when there was, when there was tough times and, and frustrating situations to navigate.

• 34:55Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, I mean, you want to change so much, right? During those years, you kind of like, you try on these little outfits. I mean, Willie, we're seeing it with our kids, right? During those ages like. You're kind of like, you're kind of flexing a little bit and seeing like, kind of like, what kind of young adult you want to become. And if you've constantly got a sibling there, that's why siblings fight so much is like, you're always calling each other bullshit, you know, and like, oh, just stop with the face, or with, oh, nice, nice outfit, or what's going on with your hair?

• 35:22Will Arnett?

  I was thinking about, I was thinking about this with us, like, as you were saying it, and obviously, it's, it's, it's very different, but the three of us, Nick, in this way, have-

• 35:31Jason Bateman?

  You're like brothers.

• 35:32Will Arnett?

  Yeah, we've been friends for a long time.

• 35:33Jason Bateman?

  But we're settled into who we're gonna be.

• 35:36Will Arnett?

  Yes, but at the same time, we, we check each other all the time. I FaceTimed with both of you yesterday. I was gonna do this thing on Thursday, and Jason's like, you gotta play golf with me, I'm leaving, I'm going to New York, you have to move that thing, because I'm leaving, I'm not gonna be able to play for a while. I was like, okay. And I called the guy I was gonna do with, I go, I have to go, because Jason's leaving, and I have to play golf with him the day before he leaves. And he goes, I think it's so sweet that you guys still want to hang out with each other, and that hadn't even occurred to me. But I get it, like, they, you guys are my constant in that way, like, you're my thing, that we come back and get to do this together in that same way. And we, so I can kind of relate to that, it's different, again, I'm not-

• 36:16Jason Bateman?

  And you also, you, you guys are probably as fiercely protective as we are about maintaining the harmony, because it does take some diligence. We don't talk to each other about, like, you know, the effort I made to avoid a conflict with you, like, no, you gotta take care of that shit internally, and make sure that you're being the right partner to keeping everything-

• 36:37Sean Hayes?

  Like any family.

• 36:38Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, like, any family, any relationship, you gotta do your part.

• 36:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, and you gotta also talk a decent amount of shit to the people you love.

• 36:46Will Arnett?

  You have to.

• 36:48Speaker 03

  Which you guys have in spades.

• 36:52Sean Hayes?

  Wait, Nick, is there, is there anything, as far as your music goes, I was thinking about this when Will was kind of touching on this too, and you were speaking about it, is there anything, how do you determine of your personal life what to share in a public forum through art? You know what I mean?

• 37:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a good question. There, there are things that, that I-

• 37:14Will Arnett?

  Even a stop clock tells the right time.

• 37:16Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, no, he's got nominations to back it up.

• 37:18Will Arnett?

  Yeah, he sure does.

• 37:21Will Arnett?

  Interviewer of the year.

• 37:23Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, did, I don't think, did he win?

• 37:25Will Arnett?

  He did not win.

• 37:26Jason Bateman?

  Did not win.

• 37:27Will Arnett?

  He did not win then. No, he did not win.

• 37:29Jason Bateman?

  He didn't win until it got-

• 37:31Speaker 03

  To the co-host version of the nomination.

• 37:35Will Arnett?

  We won.

• 37:37Speaker 03

  Congrats. There are things that I feel are probably better to just keep private. You know, and or find a different way to say it. But I have lived a lot of my life, you know, in the public eye.

• 37:53Will Arnett?

  Right. Yeah, no shit.

• 37:55Speaker 03

  It would be odd to not acknowledge some of the things that are already known about me.

• 38:00Jason Bateman?

  Right. So you write these lyrics, you know that you, I mean, a writer only writes what a writer knows. So I'm assuming that your feelings, your emotions, your stories come from your life experience. And then oftentimes you want to sort of explore this through a song. But you're afraid the public might sniff out who that person might be. So you kind of change a name, maybe even change a gender, change who you are, change the like. Or make it a metaphor, right? Like all of a sudden it's about two dogs in a park or whatever. Like.

• 38:33Will Arnett?

  What an imagination.

• 38:35Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, thank you, man. Is there a little bit of like a concoction going there sometimes when you're writing out lyrics?

• 38:43Speaker 03

  There is, yeah. And, you know.

• 38:45Jason Bateman?

  Are you ever a puppy?

• 38:46Will Arnett?

  Oh, my God, dude. Enough with the dogs in the park.

• 38:50Jason Bateman?

  Ever a puppy or a kitty?

• 38:54Speaker 03

  That's actually what the entire next album is about.

• 38:58Will Arnett?

  Fucking Nick, please write a song about two dogs in a park. I honestly, God.

• 39:02Speaker 03

  Figure it out. There's gotta be a way.

• 39:04Jason Bateman?

  And then look over there.

• 39:06Speaker 03

  I'll show it to you first. You can premiere it on the pod.

• 39:08Will Arnett?

  Yeah, but truly, yeah, it must be hard to decide how to do that.

• 39:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, I think that it's always fun to think of a different way to say a thing. And to, you know, to throw a metaphor in there. But also, you know, to just say the truth is so empowering.

• 39:29Jason Bateman?

  Instead of like they're just sniffing. Each other, you know, they actually they take each other out on a date.

• 39:33Will Arnett?

  My god, oh my god.

• 39:36Jason Bateman?

  It's the song's writing itself right now.

• 39:38Will Arnett?

  Fuck, this is never going away.

• 39:42Will Arnett?

  Yeah, I mean, have you ever had, well, then then conversely, like, have you ever written a song and then had questions about it or felt like people misinterpreted it? Like, they think that it's about something, you're like, oh, no, it's not about that.

• 39:56Speaker 03

  That that has happened a few times. And then the other thing that that happens is that, you know, in the year 2026, there's only so many notes left. There's only so many songs.

• 40:08Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 40:09Speaker 03

  We first started putting music out in the early 2000s. On any given, you know, Friday release day, there would be anywhere from 30 to 50 new releases. There are now thousands, three to 5,000, somewhere in there, releases.

• 40:26Will Arnett?

  Oh, my god.

• 40:27Speaker 03

  Every Friday.

• 40:28Jason Bateman?

  I've known and unknown artists, like, of anybody, yeah.

• 40:31Speaker 03

  I mean, there's just so much music out there, which is both incredible. And we love that there's so many people that are creative and that there is, you know, new pathways for people to independently release music, all these things. But the landscape has just changed so much. And so as writers, we have to adapt as well. And musicians, you know, you've got to find a new way to cut through.

• 40:53Jason Bateman?

  And this is, this is, it's 3,000 to 5,000 now. And then in a couple of years, you're going to have all the AI groups releasing stuff.

• 41:01Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 41:01Jason Bateman?

  These labels, labels will probably just have certain groups that are fully AI, right? How do you feel about that?

• 41:06Will Arnett?

  This one goes out to my mother.

• 41:13Jason Bateman?

  Have you played around with, like, just get like a first draft of a of a of a song? Or like, whether it's lyrics or melody, to see what AI can give you on just just on just a first pass that you then would change to make your own?

• 41:28Speaker 03

  I mean.

• 41:28Jason Bateman?

  I mean, any kind, any kind of art, I think AI I hear can give you a first sort of pass at it as opposed to because the hardest thing is creating something out of nothing, right?

• 41:41Speaker 03

  Yeah. So. About 25 years ago, or whatever it was, 30-ish years ago, probably not that far back. Let's call it 25. I don't have the exact facts.

• 41:52Speaker 03

  There's the introduction of autotune. Right. Into the music-making process. Tell Tracy what that is. Before that, there were little tricks you could do to basically take the pitch of a singer and just bring it slightly back in tune so that it just sounded better. Right. And then there's compression, which is another tool that's used. So as, you know, modern music-making, much like film and TV, started using the technology available to them, it evolved, it changed, and it became a part of the process, you know, to where now, hearing a song without autotune to your ear would probably sound odd, or just slight pitch correction. Rough.

• 42:35Speaker 03

  Rough, or, you know, unfinished, or raw. Or more real. Or more real, exactly. My thing, as it relates to the AI conversation and the creative process, is that it is inevitable that this thing that is available to everybody will be used in some way, and there will both be good and bad examples of how it's used. But I believe that the lived experience, the human experience, cannot be replicated. Right. And certainly, you know, songs about dogs sniffing each other's butts in the park could only come from great minds, human minds.

• 43:18Speaker 03

  So, but it's a really interesting conversation, because it's happening, you know, in the circles I run in L.A. with other songwriters and, you know, and screenwriters.

• 43:32Speaker 03

  It actually, and this isn't to like bring up the thing, but I have this movie coming with Paul Rudd in June. Yeah. Which is all about my character, basically, effectively, as artist. He's a sort of former pop star, boy band artist, who is at a crossroads in his career, who wants to go to that next level. And he meets Paul in a happenstance situation at a wedding that Paul's wedding band's playing at, and... And basically, I steal.

• 44:00Will Arnett?

  I like it already.

• 44:01Speaker 03

  I steal this song from him and it becomes a global smash.

• 44:05Will Arnett?

  Oh, wow.

• 44:05Speaker 03

  And he doesn't get the credit.

• 44:06Sean Hayes?

  And then he comes after you?

• 44:07Speaker 03

  And he comes after me. It's a really fun movie. John Carney's the director. He's one of my favorite directors. And Paul's incredible in the movie. But the basic kind of like hook of it is always had me when I first heard The Logline. And then when I read it, I was just blown away. But it asks the same question, I feel like, that some of the AI conversation asks. Like, what is this idea of ownership, of truth and accountability and all these things? And, you know, I'm excited for people to see it because it will leave you with a lot of questions.

• 44:38Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 44:38Sean Hayes?

  I love that. I love that. That sounds really good.

• 44:40Will Arnett?

  I think we all, they're all, everything around this topic feel like just open-ended questions because we just don't know. And we don't, we're all trying so hard to figure out where it's going to end up. And we're spending all our time just spinning our wheels going, what's it going to be? Is it going to be good or bad? Is it going to be this or that? And I guess we just, that's the frustrating part. We have to kind of surrender to we don't know yet, you know?

• 45:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:07Will Arnett?

  What kind of, I'm curious, what kind of music do you listen to? Like, if you, if I were to turn on a playlist that you had right now, like, what's the kind of stuff that? And I'm sure it varies like everybody, like you go through phases and stuff. But do you have any kind of like specific genre or something that you always find yourself going back to or artist that you really?

• 45:28Speaker 03

  I have a few, you know, I've got, I make playlists that are themed. So I'll do like a Nepo Babies playlist and it's anyone that's related to.

• 45:39Sean Hayes?

  That's funny.

• 45:40Speaker 03

  Another famous musician. And it starts a good debate of who is the more famous musician of the two? Which is a fun one, or great songs with key changes. So when me and my friends get together, we sit down, have a couple of drinks. And we all like pass the phone around and add to these playlists.

• 45:55Will Arnett?

  Oh, that's fun.

• 45:57Speaker 03

  So it gives you, yeah, it's a fun game to play with with your friends if you ever want to do it. And then outside of that, Django Reinhardt is a gypsy jazz guitar player, just really puts me at ease and like it's always playing in our home. Along with, you know, my, my wife, Priyanka, is Indian and I've learned so much about the Bollywood film scene and Indian film as a whole and the music from those movies and really come to love it. So that's, those, you know, those are kind of my temples.

• 46:28Sean Hayes?

  We'll be right back.

• 46:30Jason Bateman?

  KitchenAid knows you didn't come to this family gift exchange just to participate. You came to win. Your brother-in-law brought a scented candle? Cute. Your sister brought a wool sweater? Amateur hour. But you, you're about to mix it up. You're gonna cause a stir.

• 46:47Sean Hayes?

  Because you brought the KitchenAid Stand Mixer. Exactly what dad wanted. Move over, sis. There's a new favorite child in town. Tis your season to mix it up. Get the KitchenAid Stand Mixer. Make more than meals.

• 47:02Sean Hayes?

  And back to the show.

• 47:06Will Arnett?

  This is such a hard one. I don't know how I'd answer it. Who's your favorite? Do you have a favorite band of all time?

• 47:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:11Sean Hayes?

  Favorite band of all?

• 47:11Speaker 03

  Oh, I know what yours is, Will.

• 47:13Will Arnett?

  What is it?

• 47:13Speaker 03

  It's Built to Spill.

• 47:15Will Arnett?

  Built to Spill is up there, but it's not number one.

• 47:17Speaker 03

  Oh, is it, what's the, the, the French?

• 47:21Will Arnett?

  The Smiths.

• 47:21Speaker 03

  Fusion, fusion band you love?

• 47:24Sean Hayes?

  Is it the Smiths?

• 47:24Will Arnett?

  The Smiths is my number one band of all time.

• 47:26Sean Hayes?

  I love that.

• 47:27Speaker 03

  What about your French, French fusion? What's it called? The French-Canadian fusion band that you just go twat on and on about?

• 47:35Will Arnett?

  No, he's not French.

• 47:36Speaker 03

  Oh, Bonnie Bear.

• 47:38Will Arnett?

  Bonnie Bear. He's not French-Canadian. He's from Wisconsin.

• 47:41Speaker 03

  He's, that's close. It's close and it's a French name.

• 47:44Will Arnett?

  Bonnie Bear is amazing, right, Nick?

• 47:45Sean Hayes?

  Do you love Bonnie Bear?

• 47:46Will Arnett?

  Oh, love, love. He's incredible. Justin Vernon and those guys and he's just.

• 47:51Speaker 03

  I think I turned you on to them, Will. I mean, I was an early, early adopter.

• 47:55Will Arnett?

  Sean Carey, who plays with, with, when, when, when Justin Vernon, when they were doing Bonnie Bear, Sean Carey's got a beautiful voice and the two of them, there's a version, if you want to.

• 48:04Sean Hayes?

  It means good winter, so.

• 48:06Will Arnett?

  It does, but without the H.

• 48:08Sean Hayes?

  Just so you know.

• 48:08Will Arnett?

  There's a song they released, they did it live in a studio and you can go look it on YouTube. And it's Justin Vernon and Sean Carey on dueling pianos and they're doing bunny rates. I Can't Make You Love Me. It's one of the most incredible, it's one of the most incredible performances. JB, make fun of it as much as you want, you never understand it, okay? You have the heart of AI.

• 48:32Speaker 03

  I will not love it.

• 48:33Will Arnett?

  Jason has, as I was saying, Jason has the personality of a Waymo driver.

• 48:41Will Arnett?

  But you, Nick, check it out, check it out, those guys doing, I Can't Make You Love Me, it's absolutely heartbreaking. But, yeah.

• 48:49Sean Hayes?

  I want to know his answer.

• 48:50Will Arnett?

  I know, what's your favorite band? If you had to?

• 48:53Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, The Beatles, you know, of course.

• 48:57Will Arnett?

  Sure.

• 48:57Sean Hayes?

  Okay.

• 48:59Speaker 03

  And then The Bee Gees, I love The Bee Gees.

• 49:04Speaker 03

  There's a band called Switchfoot that we love. They were really influential for us. They had an album called Beautiful Letdown, 2003, it's like San Diego.

• 49:16Will Arnett?

  I like that name.

• 49:17Speaker 03

  Kind of like, just a rock, kind of, it's that punk pop emo rock thing that we.

• 49:22Will Arnett?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 49:23Speaker 03

  We'd love. But yeah, The Beatles had, I think, number one.

• 49:27Will Arnett?

  Sean, you got a favorite band?

• 49:29Sean Hayes?

  Well, The Smiths is really, really, really, really high up there, but probably Depeche Mode or Erasure or New Order. All the, all the European synth pop of the 80s and 90s, I listen to it every day still.

• 49:40Will Arnett?

  Bronski Beat, Erasure.

• 49:41Sean Hayes?

  Yes, all those.

• 49:42Will Arnett?

  Yes.

• 49:42Speaker 03

  What's the best concert you've ever seen?

• 49:45Sean Hayes?

  Me?

• 49:47Sean Hayes?

  Probably Depeche Mode, I mean.

• 49:49Speaker 03

  Depeche Mode.

• 49:50Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 49:50Will Arnett?

  What about?

• 49:51Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 49:51Will Arnett?

  JB, best concert you've ever seen, JB? And favorite band?

• 49:55Sean Hayes?

  Radiohead.

• 49:55Will Arnett?

  We know it, it's Radiohead, yeah, yeah. Radiohead, Radiohead. I think the best concert I ever went to was like 19, I want to say 85. And it was The Violent Femmes and The Pogues in a double bill.

• 50:10Sean Hayes?

  Wow, yeah.

• 50:11Will Arnett?

  Yeah, it was sick.

• 50:11Speaker 03

  Where'd they play?

• 50:12Will Arnett?

  Uh, in Toronto.

• 50:14Speaker 03

  Toronto.

• 50:14Will Arnett?

  Yeah, I grew up in Toronto.

• 50:15Speaker 03

  Great concert city.

• 50:16Will Arnett?

  Is it? Is it a great concert?

• 50:19Speaker 03

  It is. You know, one of the most asked questions on a golf course, what I'm like playing with some guys that I don't really know is always, "What's the best city to play in?"

• 50:29Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 50:29Speaker 03

  And it's, I, so it's Toronto.

• 50:33Will Arnett?

  Yes.

• 50:33Speaker 03

  Mexico City, Montreal, great concert city.

• 50:36Will Arnett?

  Great town.

• 50:37Speaker 03

  Uh, Barcelona.

• 50:39Will Arnett?

  Wow.

• 50:40Speaker 03

  And Brazil. I mean, anywhere in Brazil, like it's just, you know.

• 50:44Will Arnett?

  Listen, shout out to Toronto. I just want to say to all my, all our Canadian listeners, we love you so much. And our friends at RBC.

• 50:51Sean Hayes?

  Wait a minute, but Nick, by the way.

• 50:54Will Arnett?

  Not a paid ad, not a paid ad.

• 50:55Sean Hayes?

  Nick, Nick, you, you, I'm from a, I'm from a little tiny town called Glen Allen, Illinois. And you played at the Village Dance there.

• 51:04Will Arnett?

  It's just a Net Jets trip away. It's a Net Jets trip away. Okay? Net Jets, it's the easiest way to get around. You know, but wait, wait.

• 51:13Speaker 03

  Did you guys go to the Masters this year?

• 51:16Sean Hayes?

  Did not.

• 51:16Will Arnett?

  I went last year.

• 51:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:18Will Arnett?

  Were you there this year?

• 51:20Speaker 03

  No, I missed it. I'm up in Vancouver right now. I'm speaking of Canada.

• 51:23Sean Hayes?

  Is that right?

• 51:25Speaker 03

  And, uh, and I couldn't go, but my brother Joe and I, we first went to the Masters back in 2017, 2016 or 17, um, whatever the Sergio Garcia year was, I think it was.

• 51:39Will Arnett?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 51:40Speaker 03

  And then we kind of made a tradition of it. We would go on Saturday night or Sunday morning and do Sunday.

• 51:45Will Arnett?

  Well, it's a tradition unlike any other.

• 51:48Speaker 03

  And, um, you know, speaking of that, Jim Nance is, he's kind of been a family friend for a while. Um, he, he's come to a lot of shows with his daughter. They have like a connection of coming to our shows together. It's really sweet. And she's now, you know, married and, um, it's a beautiful thing. Anyway. He, he let us come into Butler Cabin and, and watch his intro a few times. And, um, and, you know, I was there the year Tiger won, but I missed it this year. And I think I've seen you from afar at Masters, one of the years I went. And just one quick golf story and sorry to bore you.

• 52:27Will Arnett?

  No.

• 52:28Speaker 03

  Um, I did this.

• 52:29Will Arnett?

  We're all in.

• 52:30Speaker 03

  I did this commercial with, uh, Jordan Spieth for, um,

• 52:36Speaker 03

  For AT&T.

• 52:37Will Arnett?

  AT&T, yes, yes.

• 52:39Speaker 03

  And as a sweetener for the deal. They were like, hey, um, we're gonna get you on to play on the Monday after the tournament.

• 52:48Jason Bateman?

  Ooh, right after.

• 52:49Speaker 03

  So I got to go and play Augusta.

• 52:52Jason Bateman?

  How'd you score? How'd you score in those conditions?

• 52:54Speaker 03

  So I'm not playing to it now, but at that point I was, I was a seven.

• 52:59Jason Bateman?

  Wow.

• 52:59Speaker 03

  And the conditions were brutal, uh, but I shot at eighty-four.

• 53:03Will Arnett?

  Very, that is really good.

• 53:05Jason Bateman?

  Did you play their tees?

• 53:06Speaker 03

  No, no, they had us, they had us up.

• 53:08Will Arnett?

  Yeah, JB, don't be, that's a dumb question.

• 53:11Jason Bateman?

  I don't know things.

• 53:12Will Arnett?

  I went, I went and embarrassed myself. I went with the Manning brothers about a year ago, just over a year ago. And I really stunk up the joint. I finally got it, kinda got it together, but I really stunk up the joint.

• 53:22Jason Bateman?

  Well, you got to see it.

• 53:23Speaker 03

  I feel like they could be, they could actually be like real working actors now, the Manning brothers. They're very funny.

• 53:29Will Arnett?

  Peyton Manning, I, he knows this. I've said, I've embarrassed him many times. He's the, he's the greatest working athlete, uh, former athlete actor of all time.

• 53:37Speaker 03

  Yeah. Um, we're diehard Giants fans, so we had a couple of great years with Eli and, uh...

• 53:43Will Arnett?

  We love Eli too. We love Eli.

• 53:46Speaker 03

  Legend.

• 53:46Jason Bateman?

  Sean, you okay?

• 53:48Sean Hayes?

  Yeah.

• 53:51Will Arnett?

  Sean just tuned out more than ever. He's just, he's still coming off his high from last night. He had a campfire. I don't know if you knew in Hancock Park, they had a little campfire. Campfire for one.

• 54:01Speaker 03

  I was gonna ask you, cause I was listening in before we jumped on, can, how, how does that work? The, the campfire outside in California?

• 54:09Sean Hayes?

  It's over, it's in the oven. When I made my smores, it's on the stove.

• 54:13Speaker 03

  Oh, okay. I was like, that seems really dangerous.

• 54:16Sean Hayes?

  If the gas is shut off, he'll just go in the sauna, as Will explained.

• 54:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:20Will Arnett?

  So you'll just, you're just standing there jackass-ing it over an open flame in your kitchen on the stove?

• 54:25Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 54:27Will Arnett?

  And are you eating standing up? Like, do you eat?

• 54:29Sean Hayes?

  Absolutely, standing up with a big glass of milk.

• 54:31Will Arnett?

  And then make the next one?

• 54:32Sean Hayes?

  That's right.

• 54:32Will Arnett?

  And your fingers are now sticky in there?

• 54:34Sean Hayes?

  Totally.

• 54:35Jason Bateman?

  Oh, wait, I'll bet you've got the phone. I bet you're scrolling through your Instagram while you're eating next to the stove.

• 54:40Sean Hayes?

  No, I was listening to The Smiths actually last night.

• 54:43Will Arnett?

  Were you really?

• 54:43Jason Bateman?

  Wait a second. You're listening to The Smiths off your iPhone, alone in your kitchen, making smores over your gas range?

• 54:50Sean Hayes?

  That's right. That's right. Fuck you. Fuck you.

• 54:54Jason Bateman?

  And you're in slippers and like...

• 54:58Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, I mean, totally. It's just disgusting.

• 55:00Will Arnett?

  Wait, Nick, we do have to get you. You have to come play golf with us. I don't know if you you heard. Jason's leaving, so we can't play for a while.

• 55:08Jason Bateman?

  Until August.

• 55:09Speaker 03

  Have you guys? Have you guys had Kevin Hart on the podcast? Yeah?

• 55:12Jason Bateman?

  We have.

• 55:13Will Arnett?

  We we have, yeah, in the last.

• 55:14Speaker 03

  So he's, you know, newly obsessed with with golf.

• 55:18Jason Bateman?

  Is he?

• 55:18Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 55:19Speaker 03

  I just finished up on the number three, Jumanji, and he was. He was literally scrolling, you know, just watching golf videos and practicing his swing with like this contraption. It's like a thing that simulates like a golf. I don't know. It's it was very cool. I find it on eBay.

• 55:37Jason Bateman?

  Was this over in Hawaii?

• 55:39Speaker 03

  Hawaii and some in LA as well.

• 55:41Jason Bateman?

  And so in Hawaii, you played some yummy courses, I'll bet.

• 55:44Will Arnett?

  That's a yummy.

• 55:45Speaker 03

  I didn't. I didn't have a chance to. I brought I brought my my daughter out. With me and my parents. My my wife is shooting in India, so I brought her out. And I did the dad stuff. We did like the dolphin, swimming with the dolphins and I took her.

• 56:01Jason Bateman?

  They're at the Kahala Hilton.

• 56:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think so, yeah. And they have a.

• 56:07Speaker 03

  They have a Disney hotel. And so, you know, she went and met Moana and all. It was it was great.

• 56:13Jason Bateman?

  Oh.

• 56:14Speaker 03

  I sacrificed the golf for the dad.

• 56:15Jason Bateman?

  Talk to me about India. How how is India?

• 56:18Will Arnett?

  Yeah.

• 56:18Jason Bateman?

  What what? I've never been there. I I'm curious.

• 56:22Will Arnett?

  I'm so desperate to go.

• 56:24Speaker 03

  You gotta go. You should bring the podcast there and do it.

• 56:27Will Arnett?

  We should do that. That's a great idea.

• 56:31Jason Bateman?

  Smartless goes to India?

• 56:32Will Arnett?

  I've been I watch a little bit of Indian. This is true. Indian Premier League cricket from time to time.

• 56:39Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 56:39Will Arnett?

  And there's this new kid. He plays. I forget what. Yeah, the IPL. This kid, he's 15. He's on. He's like this total.

• 56:46Speaker 03

  Indian team?

• 56:47Will Arnett?

  Yeah, he plays for one of the teams. No, he played. Well, I don't know if he's playing for the national team yet. He's playing for one of the teams in the IPL right now. This kid is having. I actually watched a game where he he was out after one run, but he this kid is like an absolute sensation. He's 15 and everybody else is way older. Yeah, he's sensational. I love cricket.

• 57:05Jason Bateman?

  You think the audience is hanging on to this particular section about the Indian Cricket League?

• 57:09Will Arnett?

  I don't know.

• 57:10Jason Bateman?

  You think they're fucking tuning in?

• 57:11Will Arnett?

  In India, they're.

• 57:12Jason Bateman?

  Let me tell you something, Arne. Hold an audience or something.

• 57:16Will Arnett?

  Jason just straightened himself.

• 57:20Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, you should, you should go to India. My, so Priyanka's been shooting there. This movie by the director of it did RRR was his, was his last film.

• 57:29Jason Bateman?

  Oh, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, that, that was, that got a lot of great notice.

• 57:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, but a big Indian kind of epic film and she's, she's not done a movie there in, in about eight years. So it's a big, big deal, her return. You know, she did eighty something movies before she started.

• 57:44Will Arnett?

  No way.

• 57:45Jason Bateman?

  That's crazy.

• 57:46Will Arnett?

  Wait, wait, wait.

• 57:47Jason Bateman?

  It's an enormous industry over there.

• 57:48Will Arnett?

  Over eighty films?

• 57:49Speaker 03

  Over eighty films, yeah.

• 57:51Jason Bateman?

  She's seventy-five years old, Will.

• 57:55Speaker 03

  It's a really, it's a fascinating thing, though, you know, the, the way in which they, the Indian audience reveres their, their film talent, their stars is, uh, it's like unlike anything I've ever seen before. And it's an obvious, it's obviously an enormous audience, you know, over a billion people in India. And then globally, the reach is so big and there's a bunch of projects that are, are really starting to make a huge impact globally now as well, which is exciting to see.

• 58:24Jason Bateman?

  The, the culture there, I, what I've, I hear that weddings are a major thing. Did you guys have a, a bit of an, of an Indian wedding or, or no?

• 58:35Speaker 03

  We did. So we, we were friends for about a year before we started dating. And then once we started dating, it all happened very fast. Um, we just both just kind of knew. So, you know, first real date was in May and then by July we were engaged and then, and married in December. The same year.

• 58:56Will Arnett?

  Wow.

• 58:56Jason Bateman?

  That's awesome. Well, how did you guys meet?

• 58:59Speaker 03

  We had a mutual friend who kept saying, um, you know, you guys will really hit it off. I'm gonna connect you. And he never did. And I got frustrated waiting and I saw a billboard of her on Sunset Boulevard for her show Quantico. I was like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm gonna see if she follows me on, on Twitter. And she did.

• 59:14Will Arnett?

  Wow.

• 59:16Speaker 03

  And so I messaged her and we went back and forth for a bit. We met for a drink, uh, just kind of casually in New York. And, and it took, you know, a year or a year and a half for us to, to really say, all right, let's, let's separate the time in our schedules to just like give this a go, go on a date and see what happens. And so we did and it was literally. You know, instant and and we both just kind of knew. Yeah. So flash forward to the wedding. We decided to do it in India and we were scrambling to to find a place to do it because we had spoken to uh Priyanka's mother's um pundit, her her spiritual guide and astrologer and and they had said

• 1:00:00Speaker 03

  that the best window, the most auspicious window would be in in December. Wow. So we're like, all right, we got to find a wedding venue and she showed me this video of this commercial that she had shot at this this place, this this palace in in India. Um, and she was like, there's no way this would ever be available. What when I shot here 10 years ago, I said, I want to get married there someday. Oh, wow. And so her friend who was with us, uh, her best friend and her uh best friend's husband. He's like, let me just cold call them right now and see if they're available for these dates. And he stepped out of the room and he came back about 10 minutes later, he goes, they're available. It's the one weekend this entire year that they have available for a wedding. No way. How crazy is that? So yeah.

• 1:00:40Speaker 03

  We did, we did uh what's called a sangeet ceremony, which is the first night, basically. It's a really fun um tradition where the families, the whole thing is about not just the couple, but introducing the families and integrating them together. And there's the spirit of competition that comes along with Indian weddings. So you basically do a performance and you you battle and the family that that wins the performance is the more dominant uh family. So on her side, you have like her, a a global Bollywood icon and Hollywood star, along with a bunch of her cousins and other folks in her family who are also Indian film stars. And then on our side, you've got the motherfucking Jonas Brothers.

• 1:01:25Speaker 03

  And our friends and family and it was it was epic. It's like a song, like a song competition, dance competition, both? Like a show and I'm not even kidding you, there was like a 45 minute show. Come on. And wow. She crushed it, her her side crushed it and then we came out and I walked out because you know, they they did what um the actors do in in Indian cinema, which is that there's a playback singer, it's called. Um, or or an artist, but then the actors on screen. In character, lip sync to the song.

• 1:01:57Jason Bateman?

  Right.

• 1:01:58Speaker 03

  Although it's a different singer.

• 1:01:59Jason Bateman?

  Right.

• 1:02:00Speaker 03

  So they did that and I walked out and got on the mic and said, you know, we have one thing. Yeah, that was an amazing performance and you all crushed it and we're humbled and honored to get to go after you. But we have one thing that you don't, live microphones. And then we started.

• 1:02:15Will Arnett?

  That's great.

• 1:02:16Jason Bateman?

  Is there a strategy to going first or second? Like, did you guys flip a coin to see who would start?

• 1:02:22Speaker 03

  We didn't flip a coin, it just kinda happened that way and I'm glad it did because, you know, it put the fear of God in all my friends and family when we were backstage after and it was like, we gotta hold the fucking line. They brought it, like now's the time. I've never needed you more. And so that, we did that and then basically we did a, like a Western Christian wedding.

• 1:02:44Speaker 03

  And then the following day was, was the Indian ceremony. So, so three nights and by the way, that's, that's a, a short, considered a short Indian wedding.

• 1:02:55Jason Bateman?

  No shit.

• 1:02:55Speaker 03

  They can go up to, you know, a week or two.

• 1:02:58Will Arnett?

  I was just, I was just thinking, I was imagining if we introduced that here in America, the sort of the competition element to a wedding and I'm just thinking of like a wedding up in Massachusetts of two families like, fuck you, yeah, you motherfucker. You thought that was trash. That was, you're fucking, immediately like, yeah, we go, let's fucking, let's kill these clowns, fucking, you know. Total brawl. Yeah, wow, that's so cool. Dude. That is really cool. I can't believe it's already been an hour.

• 1:03:25Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, we didn't get to much.

• 1:03:27Will Arnett?

  I know, it's just.

• 1:03:28Jason Bateman?

  But so much.

• 1:03:28Will Arnett?

  It's a good, it's always a good sign when, when you just roll through. Nick, man, you're such a talent, dude, you're such a great dude.

• 1:03:36Jason Bateman?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:36Will Arnett?

  And I just love what you do and such, so much admiration for all of it and just continued success.

• 1:03:41Jason Bateman?

  Thanks for making time where you're there at work, right? You're in your trailer there, thank you for doing this now.

• 1:03:45Speaker 03

  Of course, and I'd love to come back next time with the bros, too.

• 1:03:48Jason Bateman?

  Yeah, come on.

• 1:03:49Will Arnett?

  We'd love that, we'd love that.

• 1:03:51Jason Bateman?

  And we gotta play some golf, you know, we gotta get it all done.

• 1:03:54Will Arnett?

  Yeah, let's get it all done.

• 1:03:56Speaker 03

  Thanks for having me, guys, this was awesome.

• 1:03:58Jason Bateman?

  We can workshop the dog play, too, you know, we can just.

• 1:04:00Will Arnett?

  Okay, you know what, that's it for Nick, okay? So Jason, we're good, okay? Somebody cut off Jason's mic. Thank you, Nick.

• 1:04:07Speaker 03

  Thank you, guys.

• 1:04:07Will Arnett?

  Thanks, Nick.

• 1:04:08Jason Bateman?

  Thanks, buddy.

• 1:04:08Speaker 03

  Nice to see you again.

• 1:04:09Will Arnett?

  All right, pal.

• 1:04:10Speaker 03

  Good to see you.

• 1:04:10Jason Bateman?

  See you later, bye.

• 1:04:14Jason Bateman?

  That's Nick Jonas.

• 1:04:15Will Arnett?

  That is Nick Jonas. Yeah. Impressive dude.

• 1:04:18Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, when I saw, when I saw him backstage with Golden Globes with Priyanka, it was just us three. We were chatting for like, you know, like a half an hour. It was great. It was so cool.

• 1:04:28Will Arnett?

  Do you think they rolled their eyes after they walked away from you?

• 1:04:30Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, absolutely. Who doesn't?

• 1:04:32Jason Bateman?

  Who the fuck is that? Why is that guy talking to us?

• 1:04:35Will Arnett?

  This guy is such a...

• 1:04:36Jason Bateman?

  Why are they letting such random people backstage?

• 1:04:38Will Arnett?

  He goes on and on. I don't care. Cooking smores?

• 1:04:40Jason Bateman?

  He's wearing slippers to an award show?

• 1:04:44Sean Hayes?

  So wearing, could you imagine? By the way, that sounds like a dream. Smart slippers rolling.

• 1:04:48Jason Bateman?

  It's very admirable that he is, you know, just thriving and incredibly relevant and working like a dog. And, you know, he's, he's made that transition from child star to, to adult.

• 1:05:00Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, I mean, and started on Broadway.

• 1:05:03Will Arnett?

  Actually, I didn't even mention that. He and I years ago went to a hospital here in Los Angeles around the holidays. And, and visiting with all these, these kids who were sick. And he brought his guitar. And he played songs for all these kids individually. And it was so, yeah, it was so moving.

• 1:05:19Sean Hayes?

  I mean, it's like...

• 1:05:20Will Arnett?

  Like he was just giving, he was so generous.

• 1:05:22Sean Hayes?

  Yeah, and doesn't stop with his time like that, like that. Or, or, or, I mean, going from movie to concert to the, a recording studio to the, it's exhausting. Sounds exhausting.

• 1:05:32Will Arnett?

  Oh, oh.

• 1:05:34Sean Hayes?

  Oh, that was it?

• 1:05:34Will Arnett?

  That was it. We were, we were, yeah, we thought you were leaving it too.

• 1:05:38Sean Hayes?

  No, but they, but they do have, they do have, you know, a song, a title called Goodbye. It's, it's an album or a song or something. Yeah. So.

• 1:05:53Jason Bateman?

  We gotta give you a quick lesson on how to do the bye thing.

• 1:05:57Sean Hayes?

  Well, there's a song called Love Bud.

• 1:06:00Will Arnett?

  I will say that like his, you know, he, like, he's got the music and the, and the acting and all this stuff. And so like, how does he decide how he's going to, with his career, how he's going to go like to? Bye for Kate.

• 1:06:17Sean Hayes?

  Those two talents.

• 1:06:19Will Arnett?

  Bye for Kate.

• 1:06:24Jason Bateman?

  This gotta be the worst part of every episode.

• 1:06:34Speaker 04

  Smart. Less.

• 1:06:39Will Arnett?

  Smart Less is 100% organic and artisanally handcrafted by Rob Armjarf, Bennett Barbaco, and Michael Grant Terry.

• 1:06:51Speaker 04

  Smart. Less.