Ep. 779: Canadian Moose, Case Knives, and Old Rifles | MeatEater Radio Live!

Hosts Brent Reaves, Seth Morris, and Cory Calkins interview Craig MacCarthy of North Mountain Adventures about the nitty-gritty of a fly-in moose hunt, have a round of MeatEater Show and Tell, go Craigslisting for outdoor gear, and chat with John Pantuso and Tom Taylor of Case Knives. Watch the live stream on the MeatEater Podcast Network YouTube channel. https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterPodcastNetwork Subscribe to The MeatEater Podcast Network https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterPodcastNetwork MeatEater on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/meateater, Facebook https://www.facebook.com/StevenRinellaMeatEater/, Twitter https://twitter.com/MeatEaterTV?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor, and YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterPodcastNetwork See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 1:51Speaker 03

  Smell us now, lady. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia. Meat Eater Podcast.

• 2:13Speaker 04

  Welcome to Meat Eater Radio Live. It's 11 a.m. Mountain Time. That's 12 p.m. for our friends in Brent, Alabama, or as my mama slide would say, Brent, Alabama. It's Thursday, October the 16th, 2025, and we're live from the Meat Eater headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Brent Reeves, and I'm joined today by Meat Eater's Magnum P.I., Seth, Seth Amphetamine Morris, and Corey, Balsamic Vinegar Calkins.

• 2:50Speaker 05

  That's right, balsamic.

• 2:51Speaker 04

  I haven't heard that one before.

• 2:53Speaker 05

  No, that's new.

• 2:53Speaker 04

  Well, I just, you kind of led me into that a while ago when you were talking about that, that new sauce that you had for, and since we're talking about it, what were the ingredients for Corey said balsamic vinegar?

• 3:08Speaker 05

  A little reduced balsamic vinegar and some huckleberries.

• 3:12Speaker 04

  And huckleberries. Reduce that down, put it on steak. That sounds good. Nice job. Nice job. We have got some good stuff coming our way this today. I want to hear about what you guys have been doing recently, and I'm probably out of tune on what comes next.

• 3:31Speaker 05

  This is your show, man.

• 3:32Speaker 04

  This is our show.

• 3:32Speaker 05

  And we're live.

• 3:33Speaker 04

  Yeah. It's hunting season. This place is like a ghost town, except for us, the dedicated. It's just me, Phil, Corey, and Seth running this whole thing today. Yeah, they can thank us for Radio Live.

• 3:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, I had to start the fire in here this morning.

• 3:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:49Speaker 06

  I'd say they could thank us for just keeping the entire company afloat.

• 3:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:52Speaker 05

  You know, yeah.

• 3:53Speaker 06

  Frankly.

• 3:53Speaker 05

  You're right.

• 3:54Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 3:54Speaker 04

  I legit turned the lights on this morning in this place. But it's good. This is the time where we're all busy and everybody's out getting content that we'll be able to enjoy later. And speaking of content, Meat Eater, season thirteen, this Monday.

• 4:09Speaker 05

  Monday. Yep, this coming Monday.

• 4:12Speaker 04

  October the twentieth, six P M. Mountain Standard Time. Uh, new, new episodes, it says here, will be every Monday for the next seven weeks.

• 4:22Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 4:23Speaker 04

  Seth, you were involved in.

• 4:25Speaker 07

  I was.

• 4:25Speaker 04

  All of that, just about.

• 4:27Speaker 07

  I was, yeah, I was there for all of them, except the spearfishing one. I wasn't there for that one.

• 4:31Speaker 04

  You have a most memorable event from any of the shows that's coming out?

• 4:36Speaker 07

  Um.

• 4:39Speaker 07

  Trying to think. You know, the, one of the cooler episodes, I thought, um, was the Alaska Bear Hunt. Um, just that, that backcountry stuff up there in interior Alaska.

• 4:54Speaker 04

  Right.

• 4:55Speaker 07

  Is so cool. I just love that country.

• 4:58Speaker 04

  Which, uh, do you know what order that'll be? Which one that'll be? Do you have any idea?

• 5:03Speaker 07

  I, I don't know.

• 5:05Speaker 05

  I do know. I believe it'll be episode four.

• 5:08Speaker 07

  Episode four.

• 5:09Speaker 05

  Four weeks from this Monday.

• 5:10Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 5:11Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 5:11Speaker 04

  A lot of good stuff. Africa, Alaska, where else?

• 5:15Speaker 07

  Africa, Alaska, Texas, um, turkey hunting down there with Luke Combs. Um, Africa. Uh, Montana muzzleloader hunt.

• 5:28Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 5:29Speaker 07

  Um, if you watched the, the last muzzleloader hunt that Steve did, um, you'll have to watch this one to see if there's any redemption.

• 5:37Speaker 04

  Ah, your little teaser.

• 5:39Speaker 07

  Or see if the same stuff happened. Who knows?

• 5:44Speaker 05

  A lot can go wrong with those old school muzzleloaders.

• 5:47Speaker 04

  Uh, so Meat Eater, season thirteen is coming out this Monday. It'll be, and it'll go for seven weeks, every Monday, a new episode. And Meat Eater Sheds, uh, is coming out, or is, is out right now. I think the last episode.

• 6:00Speaker 05

  Yeah. The Jeff Foxworthy episode, which has been a hit.

• 6:03Speaker 04

  But it has been really popular.

• 6:05Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm. Check that out on the Meat, Meat Eater YouTube channel.

• 6:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, you know, I've got, I got my own shed from the folks at Storemore.

• 6:12Speaker 05

  Hmm.

• 6:12Speaker 04

  And I'm putting together a. Uh, studio, uh, podcast studio that I'm gonna be recording my stuff out of. Right now, I'm recording in a bedroom upstairs in my house and, and these folks were kind enough to work with us and be a partner with Meat Eater. Now I've got a full-fledged studio out in the backyard and, or as Alexis calls it, Brent's house, where I'll be staying, where all my toys will be.

• 6:40Speaker 05

  Hey.

• 6:41Speaker 04

  And I'll be out there, but I'm excited about working with those folks. Matter of fact, they, they issued or posted on their Instagram page today, a video of them delivering that thing, which was an event all in itself.

• 6:53Speaker 05

  That's nice.

• 6:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was pretty cool.

• 6:55Speaker 05

  Cool.

• 6:55Speaker 04

  So they can see that on, I think, my Instagram, but the Storemore Instagram too. It's S T O R M O R, I think, buildings, but it's.

• 7:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, they look like some high-quality little storage units.

• 7:06Speaker 04

  Man, uh, the electrician got, actually wrote on the fuse box when they hooked electricity at Brent's house. That's, that's how well they labeled that, that connection there, so.

• 7:16Speaker 05

  Nice.

• 7:17Speaker 04

  It's nice, very nice. Uh, Tony Peterson.

• 7:21Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 7:22Speaker 04

  He's got a, when is, he's got a, shows are dropping today?

• 7:25Speaker 05

  It just dropped five minutes ago on the Meat Eater YouTube channel, yeah. Whitetail hunting Iowa.

• 7:30Speaker 04

  Ooh.

• 7:30Speaker 05

  It's an emotional roller coaster.

• 7:32Speaker 04

  Really?

• 7:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, you should check that out.

• 7:34Speaker 04

  For the deer and for Tony.

• 7:36Speaker 05

  Oh, boy. For Tony, mostly. Deer really didn't know what was going on.

• 7:40Speaker 04

  Okay, we've got, uh, what else we got going? Oh, the Meat Eater Live Tour this Christmas that, they say it's a southern tour. I say they are dipping their toes in the south.

• 7:53Speaker 05

  Mmm. It's like the shallow south.

• 7:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, the shallow south, but it's a move in the right direction and who knows where the next one will be. We're gonna be in like five different places or six. Birmingham, Alabama, we'll be there on December the 17th. Nashville will be the next day on the 18th. Memphis, the next day on the 20th. Fayetteville, Arkansas, which is sold out on the 20th. And then Dallas and Austin on the 21 and 21st and Austin being the, being the final show there. But it is, uh, I'm looking forward to it. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be me, Steve, Yanni, Dr. Randall and Claybo.

• 8:33Speaker 05

  Fun.

• 8:33Speaker 04

  And it should be a, should be a fun time. I'm looking forward to getting out and, and seeing folks.

• 8:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, well Seth and I'll make sure the lights are on and Phil.

• 8:42Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 8:42Speaker 05

  Make sure the lights are on.

• 8:43Speaker 07

  We'll be here.

• 8:45Speaker 05

  Tour in the south.

• 8:47Speaker 04

  So hunting season. Corey. Tell me a hunting story.

• 8:53Speaker 05

  Man, this fall, this fall, we're just about to wrap up Montana's archery season. And, uh, it's been a grind for me. At least I just haven't been able to pick my ideal weather. Just, you know, don't get to pick your weather, as they say. And gone out 11 days now and it's just either been raining or sleeting and I just haven't been able to get into too many fired up elk. I say that because I've been pretty spoiled the last couple of years, actually. Having some amazing encounters on public land. Uh, but this year's just been a little bit tougher, which just makes me appreciate bow hunting and the grind of it all. And uh, luckily rifle season opens up a week from Saturday, so I can't wait to watch one fall over at 200 yards.

• 9:33Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 9:34Speaker 05

  The number of giant bulls that I've had under 100 yards, I just can't do anything about.

• 9:38Speaker 04

  No one, any close encounters, getting them called in close or they're just, they're not, not leaving those cows?

• 9:43Speaker 05

  Had a few, certainly. Close encounters, just not, I yet, have yet to draw my bow back.

• 9:48Speaker 04

  Did you say where that was at? Cause I can't remember if you told me where that was at.

• 9:52Speaker 05

  By that tree under the sagebrush.

• 9:53Speaker 04

  The brown tree?

• 9:54Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 9:55Speaker 04

  Okay. All right. Well, I'll be looking for that.

• 9:57Speaker 05

  It's been, it's been good though, but I'm excited about rifle season.

• 9:59Speaker 04

  What about you Seth?

• 10:01Speaker 07

  Uh, I actually haven't hunted once so far.

• 10:05Speaker 04

  Really? Did you quit?

• 10:07Speaker 07

  No, I didn't quit. I, I, my fall kinda got all messed up. I had a lot of plans to, uh, do some, a lot of fall fishing this year. Um, so I wasn't, you know, doing any practice at all with the, with the old bow. And then some stuff, one thing led to another stuff happened with the boat, couldn't use the boat. Still can't use the boat. Um, so I ended up getting out on a buddy's boat though. We just, me, me and some buddies did a, a.

• 10:36Speaker 04

  Now I saw some pictures.

• 10:37Speaker 07

  Yeah, we did a, a, a big fall fishing trip to Fort Peck.

• 10:43Speaker 04

  Where's that at?

• 10:44Speaker 07

  Central Montana.

• 10:45Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 10:45Speaker 07

  Yep. Um, went out there, caught a bunch of small mouth. Um, some nice ones. Biggest one was six pounds.

• 10:53Speaker 04

  Hmm. Nice. Dang.

• 10:55Speaker 07

  Um, yeah, but no, it was, it was fun. Just fall fishing.

• 10:59Speaker 04

  Right.

• 10:59Speaker 07

  You know, for anything is awesome, but false mollies is one of my favorites.

• 11:04Speaker 04

  Well, everybody that killed a moose this year, raise your hand. That's right. It was me. Nice. Incredible adventure in northern Manitoba with some friends of mine that we're going to talk to in a minute. But when, uh, a, a little lead into it, over a year ago. Garrett, uh, Garrett Long asked my boss, asked me, he said, what's, what's your dream hunt? And I just spit out, I like to kill a moose in Canada. And he said, okay, find an outfitter because you got to have an outfitter in Canada. And I'm like, sir.

• 11:40Speaker 04

  He said, yeah, let's, let's start working on it. So a year later, it all come to fruition and we went to me and Dave Gardner. Uh, cameraman for Meat Eater Contractor, a good friend of mine that I've been hunting with for probably five years now. On different projects, uh, we go up there and it was from the time we left the bank on that float plane till we got back. It was just one incredible adventure after another. And I think Mr. Taylor, we have.

• 12:09Speaker 07

  You want to pull up pictures?

• 12:10Speaker 04

  Do we have some pictures? We do have some pictures, yes. Moose.

• 12:13Speaker 07

  Hmm. Nice.

• 12:15Speaker 04

  Look at that, look at that handsome rascal. Yeah, yeah. And that moose.

• 12:20Speaker 07

  That is a nice moose, Brent.

• 12:21Speaker 04

  It was, uh, it's an, it was just an incredible encounter how it all come about. I don't want to give it all away because it was just so. So cool, but I will anyway. We, he surprised us, just slipped out in the river while we were waiting. And four hundred and sixty yard shot.

• 12:41Speaker 04

  That's a ham. Or a shoulder. I can't remember which that is.

• 12:45Speaker 07

  Man, so you you guys were you were hunting out of cabins like you're staying in cabins up there?

• 12:50Speaker 04

  We flew flew in on a float plane.

• 12:52Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 12:53Speaker 04

  And they dropped us off and we had a cabin there and the cabin. Is a plywood floor and plywood walls and a tarp over the over the top because you can't have a permanent structure. I think it has a roof, a roof. It's counted as a permanent structure.

• 13:07Speaker 07

  Gotcha.

• 13:07Speaker 04

  So so Craig and them built this thing uh earlier this year, I think. And uh or last year, we'll ask him about it in a minute, but.

• 13:18Speaker 04

  We was flying there and then we were headquartered and hunted out of that thing, out of a boat and. We wound up killing that thing by boat like a mile and a half from where we were staying.

• 13:29Speaker 07

  Gotcha.

• 13:30Speaker 04

  And.

• 13:32Speaker 04

  Put straight through the woods. It was probably three quarters of a mile, but it's just, man, it's wild country. The northern lights were shining on us and it was just.

• 13:41Speaker 07

  So were you guys call going out and calling for them?

• 13:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 13:43Speaker 07

  Every day?

• 13:44Speaker 04

  Yep, every day. I killed that moose on the third day of. Third day I was there, the second full day that we hunted and then. Everything else. I mean, we had the biscuit and everything else was the gravy that we shot after that and it's, I'm really proud. I think it's gonna be really good. It was fun from start to finish.

• 14:03Speaker 07

  What's the legal requirements for a a bull moose up there? Is there is there does that have to be certain width? Brow tines like Alaska's, you know, some units you have to have like four brow tines or?

• 14:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, you know, I don't know. I'll we can ask the man here in a minute because when uh he stepped out there, he said. That's a shooter and that's the last thing I remember. Remember.

• 14:23Speaker 07

  That's all you needed to hear.

• 14:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's all I needed to hear because that one picture that Craig put, I mean, that Phil put up there of the backstrap. Can you put that back up there?

• 14:33Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 14:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, that is massive. It's the size of a deer.

• 14:35Speaker 04

  That's one backstrap. Now I brought all this. I'm getting bringing all this meat home. I brought uh we dropped off everything at a meat processor. The meat station in Eric's Dale, Manitoba. And I to get processed and and Craig's gonna bring that down to me later, but. That is one backstrap and I I brought both backstraps home in.

• 14:59Speaker 04

  One in each, in, in each soft cooler. One of them weighed forty-nine pounds and the other one weighed fifty-one. I was talking to Alex Zimmer last night that runs the meat eater store here in Bozeman and he said that he cut up a antelope and had sixty-four pounds of meat. I thought, my gosh.

• 15:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 15:18Speaker 04

  Two back straps weighed almost twice as much as.

• 15:21Speaker 05

  That's crazy. Incredible.

• 15:23Speaker 04

  It's really, really good.

• 15:25Speaker 05

  And delicious too, I imagine.

• 15:26Speaker 04

  Oh, man, we started eating on it. We was gnawing on it that night.

• 15:29Speaker 05

  Nice.

• 15:30Speaker 04

  The night we killed and we ate it every night for supper. Then it just got better and better. Which brings me to the guy I want to talk to about it. Mr. Craig McCarthy. Craig is Craig. Are you there, buddy?

• 15:44Speaker 08

  I'm there. I'm here.

• 15:45Speaker 04

  There, there he is. Craig and his wife Melanie and their family run North Mountain Adventures. It's a uh, guide service there in Manitoba. Is that southern Manitoba where you, where you would be for?

• 15:58Speaker 08

  Ah, you're set. Central Manitoba.

• 16:01Speaker 04

  In central Manitoba? And then?

• 16:03Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 16:03Speaker 04

  His father has a concern, a guiding business, uh, for moose up in the northern part. And that's where, and Craig guides for him up there. And that's, that's where we went up there. Craig, uh, great to talk to you, my friend. You've been a, a friend of mine for going on several, two years now, I guess. But, uh, we just had a, a wonderful trip up there. And I appreciate, appreciate you coming out here today.

• 16:34Speaker 08

  I appreciate you inviting me.

• 16:35Speaker 04

  What, tell us about, about the guiding life. It's not, it's not easy, is it?

• 16:43Speaker 08

  Uh, it's, uh, actually, it's probably the most fun I have all year is when I'm guiding, but, uh, yeah, sometimes you gotta be away from home, but that's just part of the job. Um, yeah, it's something I've loved to do since I was, since my parents started doing it when they, I was probably around ten, twelve years old. Helping out and it's just progressed from there. And now it's a huge part of my life and my family's life.

• 17:11Speaker 07

  Uh Craig, I got a question for you. What, what all, like what hunts do you offer up there?

• 17:17Speaker 08

  Uh, we do uh black bear and whitetail deer um out of our home. And uh we started doing uh, I started guiding for caribou up north, which is an addition this year. And uh yeah, then I guide for my parents and anybody else that needs help.

• 17:38Speaker 07

  Cool.

• 17:39Speaker 05

  Do any fishing trips up there too, or are you just uh, just hunting?

• 17:43Speaker 08

  Uh, you know what? We can. Um, we have uh good walleye fishing and pike fishing 10 minutes away from here. Um, but that's usually, we just offer our cabins and people come and stay and go fishing. Um, if they need a nice shack or something, I have them here that they can use and yeah.

• 18:00Speaker 07

  That sounds fun.

• 18:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's an adventure.

• 18:02Speaker 04

  See the ice fishing thing, that's totally foreign to me.

• 18:05Speaker 05

  I bet.

• 18:06Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 18:06Speaker 04

  No idea.

• 18:07Speaker 07

  You don't get too many opportunities to do that down in Arkansas, do you?

• 18:10Speaker 04

  No, not, not many at all. And the water's clear, where we, where we were at up there, uh, we caught, caught some walleye. We caught some pike. That's, that's right, pike, isn't it?

• 18:22Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 18:22Speaker 04

  And the, the pike up there, I mean, they're just like a, what we call a jackfish at home, but uh, or gar. And

• 18:31Speaker 07

  Oh yeah.

• 18:32Speaker 04

  Up there, man, golly, in that clear cold water, they were so good. We ate them. Uh Craig filleted them out and took the bones out of them and we had those one night with some, with some moose and it was

• 18:44Speaker 07

  Nice.

• 18:44Speaker 04

  Fantastic.

• 18:45Speaker 07

  Well surfed and turf.

• 18:46Speaker 04

  But you're not, you're a second generation guide now, following, you know, with your dad and your dad's still active. Uh, what about your kids? Hayden and, and Kirsten, he's got two kids that are like tier one rodeo kids right now.

• 19:03Speaker 07

  Nice.

• 19:03Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 19:03Speaker 04

  Will they be joining you, you think, in the, in the guiding business?

• 19:08Speaker 08

  I think uh it's probably pretty much a guarantee that Hayden's gonna follow. He's a avid outdoorsman. Um, my daughter is starting to be. Um, but she's heavy in the role with her mom when everybody comes out for cooking and baking stuff and. Yeah, bugging the guys.

• 19:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, they're absolutely, they're a fun family, Craig. That that cabin there is where is on Craig's. Where is his home place where he lives and that's where we were. Well, I bear hunted with him when I met him last year and killed a big old four hundred and forty pound. Chocolate bear up there. We were staying right there and. Man, for bears, they're just, they're just there everywhere up there. Yanni, I think Yanni filmed a. Filmed a bear hunt up there with you this year. Is that right?

• 19:59Speaker 08

  Yes, sir. He shot a three hundred and eighty nine pound black, I believe, on the. Third night of his hunt.

• 20:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's. That's fantastic. Yeah, it is. It's also not four hundred and forty pounds. Sorry, Yanni.

• 20:14Speaker 04

  And also y'all, y'all went on a caribou hunt with with Yanni, too.

• 20:19Speaker 08

  Yeah, we just, uh, that was two weeks before you came up.

• 20:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, Craig was Craig was hunting up. They were in now I'm I'm gonna pronounce this wrong, but it looks like.

• 20:31Speaker 04

  None of it. Is that right? Nunavut? How you pronounce it?

• 20:34Speaker 08

  Yeah, we were on the, we were in Manitoba on the Nunavut, close to the Nunavut border.

• 20:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, they were. They were up there and then so when I met Craig and. When I went up there at the end of September, he'd been away from home was like twenty six days at that point. Is that right?

• 20:52Speaker 08

  Yeah, when I got home was twenty six or twenty seven days gone.

• 20:56Speaker 04

  Hey, it's grind. You clean up well, buddy, because uh you don't, you didn't look as clean uh when I saw you, you do right now.

• 21:05Speaker 08

  Yeah, I think at at I think at like day eighteen or nineteen is when you quit caring how you look.

• 21:12Speaker 04

  Well, it was a great adventure. The the the. Dave captured some outstanding stuff. I think it's gonna be really good. I think the folks are gonna enjoy that. Video or film, whatever you wanna call it, it'll be a feature one next year. So it's gonna be like a forty-five minute deal. So.

• 21:30Speaker 07

  Cool.

• 21:31Speaker 04

  It'll be good, but Yanni's, Yanni's bear hunt, Yanni's caribou hunt. And my moose hunt will all be stuff that'll coming out. Next year when, when it's time for it to come out there. So it was. It's incredible. Now, where we flew into, it's like two hours away from. It was like a two hour ride in there to where, to where we were camped. No roads. How are you getting all, what's the, tell me the logistics or describe to the folks that, that might not know the logistics about getting. How hard it is to get just plywood in there. You, cause you gotta fly it all in, right?

• 22:11Speaker 08

  Yeah, you bet. We, uh, obviously orders are our main, uh. Are the main flights that we use because, uh, they can hold a lot of weight. So. Um. It depends on how far the camp is. For how much fuel they need, but. Usually you're looking at, um, you can usually put about thirty-five hundred pounds. Um, in a plane. Um. So plywood's gotta be flown in. Two by fours, two by sixes, the whole works, which you can never get on one flight. So it's multiple flights in. Um, to build one camp. So, um, your turnaround's probably. Um. Two to three hunts before you can, you know, start getting your money back.

• 22:57Speaker 04

  So it's just now, the whole process is hard. It's, it's, everything about that is hard and, but it's. It's so worth the effort. It was, um.

• 23:08Speaker 04

  It's just incredible to think about how hard it is to get boats out there. I mean, because you got to fly boats in, you got the boat motors, gas, and it's an ongoing back and forth of, of supplies back and forth, you know, and then you got, you know, the moose, the moose that we killed there, all the meat that you got to take back on it, you know, and there's other camps with other moose, so it's just, and it's just a, it's a big deal getting all that stuff in and out of there, more, even more so than I, than I realized about it.

• 23:43Speaker 07

  How do you get boats in there? Are the otters on floats? Do you strap them to the floats or how, how's that work?

• 23:48Speaker 08

  Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And as soon as you put a boat on, um, any size of boat, you reduce your weight by 25% instantly. Even though the boat doesn't weigh that much, it's just the, the wind and all that stuff. Yeah, you betcha. Um, but we've, yeah, flew every single boat in on pontoons, one boat at a time and,

• 24:10Speaker 08

  yeah, you just plan well.

• 24:12Speaker 04

  Well, you can hear me talk a lot about, actually describe in detail that hunt. My, my podcast last week was the first part and the one that's coming out tomorrow is the second part of that hunt. And I think folks will enjoy it. I hope so. It was, it was so much fun. Um, I think the most rugged thing we did was sitting in that seat on that 30 year, 40 year old airplane or whatever. They, they obviously put all the design thought into making that thing safe to get you from one spot to the other, but how you got there, if you were comfortable on that, they didn't really care about that.

• 24:50Speaker 05

  Sure, yeah.

• 24:51Speaker 04

  But it was, it was so much fun. Craig, I can't tell you how much I enjoyed it. I mean, I've talked to you nearly every day since then, since we got back home. Um, looking forward to you coming down in the States, uh, later on, uh, in hunting season and, and doing some hunting down here and hopefully I'll get to, get to see you then.

• 25:12Speaker 08

  Yeah, next week, Colorado.

• 25:15Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 25:16Speaker 07

  Nice.

• 25:16Speaker 04

  It'll be fun. Thank you, buddy. I appreciate you being here and thank you for everything for, for helping me. I appreciate it.

• 25:24Speaker 08

  Thank you. Appreciate it. Thanks, Greg.

• 25:27Speaker 07

  Thanks, Craig.

• 25:28Speaker 04

  Man, they're, they're great folks. That, that whole family, I just absolutely love them.

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• 27:54Speaker 04

  All right, our next segment is show and tell. Mmm. Mmm.

• 28:03Speaker 04

  I wish I had that.

• 28:06Speaker 04

  On the CD.

• 28:18Speaker 05

  I feel like you probably could put out an album by now.

• 28:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:21Speaker 06

  When this, when this show ends, I'll, I'll put out a, I'll put out like a, either a, just a big medley of everything, or like a playlist, you'd, or something, I'll post it on the Reddit, you guys can download it, for those freaks that want to listen to that.

• 28:34Speaker 05

  I think there's a few of them.

• 28:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, man, that's.

• 28:36Speaker 06

  I love all of you.

• 28:37Speaker 04

  It's more.

• 28:38Speaker 06

  All, all four of you.

• 28:40Speaker 04

  All six of them.

• 28:42Speaker 04

  All right, show and tell, everybody, show and tell, just like kindergarten, for me, which was like three years, is where you bring something to school, or to show all your pals, what's something you want to show and talk about, so Cory, you're first in line.

• 28:58Speaker 05

  All right, then, I was gonna bring in some boring stuff, like a giant elk shed, or a mountain lion skull, but I decided instead, I made a quick trip over to our office free table.

• 29:09Speaker 04

  Tell the folks what the free table is.

• 29:12Speaker 05

  Well, it's exactly what it sounds like, if anybody's got some old gear that they're not using anymore, or, you know, sometimes there's some partnerships, hats and hoodies that might end up on there. Sometimes people use that free table as just a place to get rid of shit that they don't want. That's Yanni. Yanni's got all sorts of old clothes in there, I mean, if the, if the local goodwill won't take it, Yanni puts it on the free table.

• 29:35Speaker 06

  If there's a pair of boots that's falling apart on the free table, they came from Yanni.

• 29:37Speaker 05

  Well, speaking of old boots that are falling apart, here I got a pair of size 10 corker wade fishing boots, which these are actually also great, it's got, it's a felt sole, but it's removable, you can put a rubber sole on there.

• 29:49Speaker 06

  Oh, nice.

• 29:50Speaker 05

  Which I might snag these, they're size 10, which is right up my alley, so, thought that was pretty cool, I just grabbed one of those, what else have we got, I got, there's a D, couple DVDs up there, the first one I snagged was the Will Ferrell and John Header, I probably pronounced that wrong.

• 30:05Speaker 06

  I think it's Heater.

• 30:05Speaker 05

  Heater hit, Blades of Glory. Uh, doesn't look like.

• 30:08Speaker 04

  Can we take a, can we take a poll and hear who we think?

• 30:11Speaker 07

  Yeah, who put that there?

• 30:12Speaker 04

  Put that on there?

• 30:13Speaker 05

  I thought it would have been Phil, but he already said no.

• 30:16Speaker 04

  My first choice would be Dr. Randall.

• 30:18Speaker 07

  That's what I was gonna say.

• 30:19Speaker 05

  Oh, could be.

• 30:21Speaker 07

  Well, I feel like Randall might hold on to something like that.

• 30:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:24Speaker 07

  I wouldn't, I don't know if Randall's a big, a big, a big heater head.

• 30:29Speaker 05

  Heater header?

• 30:30Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 30:30Speaker 05

  Uh, classic film though. Uh, if anybody has a DVD player, I think that's probably the problem these days. Uh, Primos, Truth, Big Bowl 16.

• 30:38Speaker 07

  There we go. That's what I'm talking about.

• 30:40Speaker 04

  Are you in this one?

• 30:41Speaker 05

  I think I'm in Big Bowl 17.

• 30:43Speaker 04

  Because?

• 30:44Speaker 05

  And 18, but not this one. I had to look it up.

• 30:47Speaker 04

  Would they like the six degrees of Kevin Bacon or whatever that thing is? The elk shed that you had?

• 30:54Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 30:54Speaker 04

  That you thought about bringing in?

• 30:56Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 30:57Speaker 04

  Is in one of these with you and Will Primos, right?

• 31:00Speaker 05

  It would have made a preview in, uh, Big Bowl 17. Yeah, actually tripped over that shed when I was calling it a bowl for Wilbur.

• 31:07Speaker 07

  Nice.

• 31:07Speaker 05

  Almost knocked me down. It was so big. Uh, there is, speaking of Primos, the Terminator Elk Bugle sitting up there. There's actually another bugle sitting up there right now. They're pack bugle, but this is the Terminator, if anybody ever remembers that.

• 31:20Speaker 07

  Is it a built-in read?

• 31:22Speaker 05

  It's got that blue read to it.

• 31:23Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah.

• 31:27Speaker 05

  Oh, oh, it's not great condition.

• 31:30Speaker 04

  Look out the window.

• 31:32Speaker 07

  They're coming.

• 31:33Speaker 05

  And a hoochie mama, more Primo stuff. The, the, the cow call that ruined elk hunting. Um.

• 31:42Speaker 04

  Is there some, is there some more to that? The cow call that ruined?

• 31:46Speaker 05

  It just, it's so simple to use. It's kinda like the can, if you ever remember the weed can.

• 31:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 31:52Speaker 05

  It's just so easy to use and then everybody started squeaking on them. I think I have nine of these. No kidding. Cause I found so many of them in the woods.

• 31:59Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 31:59Speaker 05

  It's one of those that should fit in your pocket or obviously around your neck and somehow it falls out of your pocket.

• 32:04Speaker 04

  I got you.

• 32:04Speaker 05

  But I have so many of these just as a collection. It's pretty funny. Got some musket nipples.

• 32:10Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 32:11Speaker 04

  You should see a doctor about that.

• 32:13Speaker 07

  I was looking for some musket nipples.

• 32:15Speaker 05

  Uh, well, there you go. It was on the free table. The H and S strut striker.

• 32:20Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 32:20Speaker 05

  Turkey call.

• 32:21Speaker 07

  Was there a pot with that?

• 32:23Speaker 05

  Half of what you need. No, no pot up there. No pot on the free table.

• 32:27Speaker 07

  That's gotta be Yanni.

• 32:28Speaker 05

  Um, oh, there's a uh, rodeo rope, rope and rope.

• 32:32Speaker 07

  Hmm.

• 32:33Speaker 05

  Garrett long.

• 32:33Speaker 07

  Yeah, that's gotta be Garrett.

• 32:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. There was, there was a pile of them up there and there's just one left.

• 32:40Speaker 04

  The love of humanity.

• 32:42Speaker 05

  That's, and then this really cool wicker basket. I don't know. I bought one of these at world market the other day. It was thirty bucks. So I'm.

• 32:49Speaker 04

  What are you putting in that?

• 32:50Speaker 05

  I put a.

• 32:51Speaker 06

  It kinda looks like a turkey fan.

• 32:53Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 32:53Speaker 06

  Yeah, it kinda does.

• 32:54Speaker 05

  You probably could decorate that for.

• 32:55Speaker 07

  You could put a turkey fan on either side.

• 32:57Speaker 05

  Oh, look at that.

• 32:58Speaker 06

  That'd be great.

• 32:59Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 33:00Speaker 07

  You could use that as a decoy.

• 33:01Speaker 04

  For real?

• 33:02Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 33:03Speaker 06

  Alright.

• 33:03Speaker 05

  Do some reaping?

• 33:04Speaker 04

  Or a weather vane.

• 33:05Speaker 06

  So yeah, if you wanna get a job at Meat Eater HQ, you too could have access to all this killer gear.

• 33:10Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 33:11Speaker 04

  It'll still be there when you get here.

• 33:12Speaker 06

  Yeah, cuz nobody wants it.

• 33:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, some of this stuff's been up.

• 33:16Speaker 07

  Under, under employment perks, it says, uh, access to the free table.

• 33:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, oh, yeah, it does.

• 33:21Speaker 05

  You never know though, I swear, when Steve comes in and drops off a pile of stuff.

• 33:25Speaker 07

  I know, yeah.

• 33:25Speaker 05

  It's a good day.

• 33:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, he was selling the swing set the, or giving away a swing set the other day that also included an in reach.

• 33:32Speaker 05

  Right, yeah.

• 33:33Speaker 07

  Oh, I missed that part.

• 33:34Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 33:35Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 33:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was, you gotta read the whole thing, Seth.

• 33:38Speaker 07

  I stopped at swing set. He should've swapped those and led with the in reach, yeah.

• 33:43Speaker 05

  So that's what I brought in today.

• 33:44Speaker 04

  Nice job.

• 33:45Speaker 06

  Corey, somehow, despite you grabbing something off the free table, still more effort put into it than Ryan Callahan usually does.

• 33:52Speaker 05

  I know, I thought about sharing my phone case.

• 33:56Speaker 04

  Okay, Seth, what you got?

• 33:58Speaker 07

  Um, I got a, I got an old Winchester rifle.

• 34:02Speaker 04

  Where'd you come by this unit?

• 34:03Speaker 07

  So this, this was, it's, yeah, sorry. It's, it's empty.

• 34:07Speaker 05

  I figured.

• 34:08Speaker 07

  Trust me, it's empty.

• 34:10Speaker 05

  I'll just stand back.

• 34:10Speaker 07

  Um. This is a, it's a Winchester Model fifty-five. Uh, ran the serial number built in nineteen thirty-one.

• 34:19Speaker 04

  Nice.

• 34:19Speaker 07

  Um, this was my great-grandfather's rifle.

• 34:22Speaker 04

  Really?

• 34:23Speaker 07

  And he, from what I hear, he bought this to, uh, feed his family and, and, and neighbors and friends during the depression.

• 34:33Speaker 04

  Was he hunting or robbing folks?

• 34:35Speaker 07

  He was hunting.

• 34:36Speaker 04

  Okay, got you.

• 34:37Speaker 07

  He shot, uh, from what I, I don't have an exact number, but what I'm told is he shot a pile of deer with this.

• 34:43Speaker 04

  Really?

• 34:43Speaker 07

  Um.

• 34:44Speaker 04

  Is it functional? Can you shoot it?

• 34:46Speaker 07

  Yeah, you can. I haven't, I haven't shot it yet. I just recently inherited this.

• 34:50Speaker 04

  You gotta kill a deer with it, man.

• 34:52Speaker 07

  Yeah. I would love to kill a deer with it at some point.

• 34:55Speaker 04

  Your great-grandfather?

• 34:56Speaker 07

  Great-grandfather, yep. Um, and then when he passed away, it got handed down to my great-uncle.

• 35:02Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 35:02Speaker 07

  And he had it for a while. There's actually some of his old, um, hunting license, Pennsylvania hunting license in here from not the eighties.

• 35:11Speaker 04

  Oh, man, now that's really nice. I love, that's a legacy item there.

• 35:15Speaker 07

  Yeah, so it's pretty cool. It's, um, chambered in, it says thirty WCF, which is thirty thirty. Um, when, WCF is Winchester Center Fire.

• 35:27Speaker 04

  Center Fire.

• 35:28Speaker 07

  So, yeah, that's my show and tell item.

• 35:30Speaker 06

  That's a beaut.

• 35:31Speaker 04

  I like it.

• 35:32Speaker 07

  I'd like to, uh, take this up to southeast Alaska and shoot a bear with it.

• 35:35Speaker 06

  Ooh.

• 35:36Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 35:36Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 35:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:38Speaker 07

  So.

• 35:38Speaker 04

  Now, you're from Pennsylvania, right?

• 35:40Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 35:40Speaker 04

  You gotta go back and kill a deer there, too.

• 35:42Speaker 07

  Yeah. Yep. Yep, that'd be cool.

• 35:44Speaker 04

  Deer season's just getting ready to start out there, isn't it?

• 35:47Speaker 07

  Mm-hmm. Yeah, the archery season just started and rifle season starts the, uh, Saturday after Thanksgiving, which I'm going back for.

• 35:54Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 35:55Speaker 07

  So.

• 35:55Speaker 04

  I'm going home pretty well after we get done here today, cause tomorrow, I've got to do what I brought on a video show and tell that. Oh, yeah, let me bring this up here. That Phil can, can show us. This was filmed last March. This is my brother Tim and I, what we like, how we like to catch catfish. And you hear my brother Tim narrating in the background.

• 36:23Speaker 07

  God, I'm a muck.

• 36:27Speaker 05

  That's a pile of catfish. Look at them.

• 36:32Speaker 04

  It surprises, it surprises both.

• 36:41Speaker 07

  He should narrate your, your films.

• 36:42Speaker 04

  He should, he should narrate everything.

• 36:45Speaker 07

  Brent just pulled a Timmy's net. We're gonna pull Brent's net back.

• 36:49Speaker 04

  I had to say about the same amount in there, but we'll, of course, we don't keep all, we throw a lot of them back. But if, like, if we're doing a fish fry or something, we can, we'll, we'll skin them all. And we, we did for that one. That one was our first foray into net fishing. We both got commercial fishing licenses and we've probably caught, I don't know how many pounds of filets and we ain't sold the first one yet. We give fish away to friends and family. But we also eat a lot of it too.

• 37:20Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 37:20Speaker 04

  But it's just so much fun to do that. And that's a, it's a barrel net. And that net is shaped around a, a roll of, uh, of, uh, the concrete reinforcement wire. So it's pretty thick, you know, and you roll it over and, and there's a man down in Louisiana that makes them for us. And it's welded together and then that net is slipped over the top of it. And it's got two throats on the inside of it where the fish go in to go after the bait. And the bait we use is in the shape and the size of a block of Velveeta cheese. And it's actually soybeans and cheese mashed together in that block.

• 37:58Speaker 05

  I'd be one of those catfish trying to get in there.

• 38:01Speaker 04

  You just put that in there and then, and then lay it on the bottom where you think catfish would be.

• 38:07Speaker 07

  It looks like it works well.

• 38:09Speaker 04

  Let me tell you, the surprise in my brother's voice when we pulled that first one up, it was beyond anything. It was, it surprised us both. And then we had two more just like.

• 38:20Speaker 07

  Did you ever get bycatch in there?

• 38:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, you'll catch some, some buffalo, which we like to eat those too in there. And we've caught turtles in there before and during different times of the year. Like in the summertime, you gotta check them regularly. And it's about an hour and a half from our house where we fish. So during the wintertime, the cold months, there's more oxygen and the fish or the survivability of them is we had never lost any fish in there. We check them before you're mandated to.

• 38:48Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 38:49Speaker 04

  Like, but he, he put some nets out, um, Wednesday. He's back checking them today. And then when I get home tonight in the morning, I'm gonna load the boat up. We're gonna go and run them again.

• 39:01Speaker 06

  Cool.

• 39:01Speaker 04

  And try to put some fish, but that's, that's our show and tell. That's, it is just a lot of fun. Fun way to catch them.

• 39:08Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 39:08Speaker 04

  And I'm a better barrel net fisherman than I am a cane, cane rod fisherman. But it's a lot of fun.

• 39:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, it looks like you got it figured out.

• 39:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's good. And those are channel cats and that's in the Arkansas River, uh, where we, uh, where we catch those at.

• 39:25Speaker 06

  Nice.

• 39:27Speaker 04

  Phil?

• 39:28Speaker 06

  Yes, Mr. Reeves.

• 39:29Speaker 04

  Listener feedback. Have we got any?

• 39:31Speaker 06

  Yeah, go through. If you guys have any questions for, for Brent, since he's not here very often. He flew in just for, just for you guys. So get those questions in, but we have a few. Uh, Garrett Springer wants to know how your, your east coast trip was Seth? Any highlights?

• 39:45Speaker 07

  Oh yeah, it was great. Um, yeah, I had a wedding in York, Maine. Uh, my cousin was getting married, so we flew into Boston. And, uh, spent a day there checking out all the things in Boston. Saw the tea party, party, um, bunker hill. Um, yeah, just hung out downtown and Paul Revere's house. Saw that.

• 40:06Speaker 05

  Oh, really?

• 40:06Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 40:08Speaker 04

  That's one part I've never been to.

• 40:10Speaker 05

  Same.

• 40:10Speaker 04

  Uh, I'd love to go up there.

• 40:12Speaker 07

  It's, I was impressed with Boston. I'm not a city guy, but that city was like clean and, and quiet and, and was, yeah, it was like pleasant to be there.

• 40:21Speaker 05

  Are there still cobblestone streets?

• 40:23Speaker 06

  There's a few. Yeah, Boston's cool because you're walking through skyscrapers and all of a sudden you'll walk upon some old building. It's been there since like the 1600s.

• 40:29Speaker 07

  Yeah, it's, it's fun.

• 40:31Speaker 05

  That's cool. Yeah, I need to go visit.

• 40:32Speaker 07

  But we, so from there went up to, uh, Maine, um, York, Maine, which from, from Boston, New York's about an hour drive. Um, and was right on the coast there, did the wedding thing, stopped at Kittery Trading Post. Um, just check that out, which is like this big outdoor store, um, just right there in Maine, in Kittery, Maine. Um, They got some first light for sale there.

• 40:55Speaker 04

  Nice.

• 40:56Speaker 07

  Um, I actually hit up the, they, they had a big old, uh, bargain bin there for some fishing baits. So I, I stocked up.

• 41:04Speaker 04

  You could have brought some back to the free table.

• 41:06Speaker 05

  Buddy.

• 41:07Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 41:07Speaker 05

  There's always some baits up there. Stuff that obviously doesn't work.

• 41:12Speaker 04

  We just arrived, fisherman ain't fishing with it.

• 41:14Speaker 05

  That's probably.

• 41:14Speaker 07

  And then I, on the way back to Boston, I stopped in Salem where the witch trial stuff went down.

• 41:20Speaker 05

  Scary.

• 41:21Speaker 07

  And let me tell you, this time of year in Salem, it's a weird place.

• 41:24Speaker 04

  I don't do spooky stuff.

• 41:25Speaker 07

  It is a weird place. Um, it was cool, but very busy.

• 41:31Speaker 04

  My wife.

• 41:32Speaker 07

  Yeah, very.

• 41:33Speaker 04

  Loves that, that spooky scary movies, all that. I'm out, bro.

• 41:39Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 41:39Speaker 04

  I don't like none of that.

• 41:40Speaker 07

  I'm not, I was, uh, we went there with like the intentions of, you know, seeing some historical stuff and reading some plaques, that kind of stuff, you know?

• 41:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:49Speaker 07

  And it was just a, it was a circus. Just.

• 41:52Speaker 04

  The people you talking about?

• 41:53Speaker 07

  Yeah, the Pete, there was, I mean, thousands of people there.

• 41:57Speaker 05

  Really?

• 41:57Speaker 04

  Well, they dressed up like witches and.

• 41:59Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah.

• 42:00Speaker 04

  Really?

• 42:00Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 42:01Speaker 05

  Must be the upcoming holiday, I guess.

• 42:03Speaker 07

  Yeah. I, I mean, I thought it wouldn't have been crazy busy being early October, but I can't imagine what it's like on Halloween.

• 42:09Speaker 04

  Whoa.

• 42:09Speaker 07

  But it, it was cool.

• 42:10Speaker 05

  Extra spooky.

• 42:11Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah, I'm out.

• 42:13Speaker 06

  All right, Matt, uh, is looking for tips for still hunting fall black bears. Pennsylvania doesn't allow baiting and I finally found a spot with some bear trails. How do you know you're in the right place at the right time?

• 42:23Speaker 05

  Hmm.

• 42:24Speaker 04

  Well, you can look for bear scat.

• 42:28Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 42:28Speaker 04

  Uh, and the fresher, the obviously the better and find out, well, you find out what they're feeding on this time of year. I know in Arkansas now it's, it's acorns.

• 42:37Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 42:38Speaker 04

  Acorns.

• 42:38Speaker 07

  That's what I was gonna say. Acorn flats or, you know, anywhere where there's a bunch of white oaks, um, still hunt through that. Especially like white oak stuff adjacent to thick mountain laurel or, you know, good cover.

• 42:51Speaker 04

  The wind.

• 42:52Speaker 07

  Yep. Get the wind right. Just slip through the woods quietly. It's nice to, if you're gonna do that in PA where there's a bunch of, uh, leaf duff on the ground, try and pick times where it's like wet, damp, rainy.

• 43:05Speaker 04

  Kind of slip around.

• 43:06Speaker 07

  Slip through quietly.

• 43:08Speaker 04

  I know that, uh, when this last, this last bear season in Arkansas.

• 43:14Speaker 04

  Bear John was hunting on public land and he was still hunting like that and he was, you gotta look up in the trees too because the first bear that he encountered was already up in a tree knocking acorns out.

• 43:25Speaker 07

  Oh, really?

• 43:26Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 43:26Speaker 07

  That's cool. Wow.

• 43:27Speaker 04

  So that's something to keep in mind when you're flipping around.

• 43:30Speaker 07

  Yep. Good luck.

• 43:32Speaker 06

  Uh, Leland, I'm gonna pose this to Seth, but open field. Best practical use for fox furs? Do you have a lot of experience doing anything with fox, Seth?

• 43:41Speaker 04

  Socks, fox socks.

• 43:42Speaker 06

  Fox socks? Fox and socks.

• 43:46Speaker 07

  All my, I have foxes just hanging up in my, in my house. They're just pretty.

• 43:50Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 43:51Speaker 07

  Red foxes and, uh, I have a gray fox too hanging up. But, um, I mean, you, they're, they make like a, a nice red fox makes pretty cool trim around like a coat.

• 44:05Speaker 04

  Coat.

• 44:05Speaker 07

  A coat hood or something like that or collar.

• 44:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:08Speaker 07

  Um, but I don't know, you can kind of do whatever you want with them, really.

• 44:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, I just like the natural pelt hanging up like.

• 44:15Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 44:15Speaker 04

  Like these are.

• 44:16Speaker 07

  Yeah. Scarf, maybe? Scarf?

• 44:19Speaker 04

  Mm.

• 44:19Speaker 07

  Fox scarf?

• 44:20Speaker 04

  Blindfold?

• 44:22Speaker 07

  What happened? Blindfold, sure.

• 44:26Speaker 04

  It's all good.

• 44:29Speaker 06

  Uh, let's see here, we have, there's a lot of questions for you, Brent, just they want more details about your trip in, uh, in Manitoba. Steven asked for just like a specific highlight, the best part, that's his, his dream hunt. And then Al, uh, asked specifically about the landscape.

• 44:45Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 44:46Speaker 06

  Some major differences about other places you've been or what you're used to, what'd you like, what'd you dislike?

• 44:50Speaker 04

  The highlight, I tell you, the, the thing that was hardest to get used to is walking on that spongy ground. The small of my back, it took me about two or three days to get acclimated to that. And just because it's not, you think it's easy like walking on big shag carpet, but it'll, if you're not used to it, it's, it'll, it'll play on the small of your back a little bit, but the landscape was similar. The trees were shorter, I think, than, than I, where I was at in Saskatchewan, uh, bear hunting, uh, or filming for Clay several years ago, back in the bear hunting magazine days. So we were a little farther north on this hunt, but the, uh,

• 45:30Speaker 04

  The highlight, I think, would probably be after we killed that moose. We had it all loaded in the boat. Craig was obviously driving the motor and Dave Gardner, our cameraman, was sitting beside me and the moose was all in front. And we had headlights to drive by, but it was, it was kind of dusky dark. The sun wasn't up, but you could kind of still see a little bit. And the northern lights were on top of us. Nice, wow. So we turned our lights out and actually drove back to camp in that boat with that load of moose. That's so cool. By the, by the northern lights. Dang. And Dave took a picture and you can see the silhouette of the elk antlers in the front of the boat. Moose ant.

• 46:12Speaker 04

  And, yeah, I'm sorry, the moose antlers in, in front of the boat and then the lights and it was just. Dang, that's cool. Yeah, it was, that, that would be probably the highlight. Is, is there grizzly bears up in that country? No, uh, about, no, we were like. We wasn't that far from Churchill. I'm not going to say the mileage, but it was just a little over a hundred miles from Churchill where they have those polar bear. Mm, yeah, yeah, yeah. Expeditions or whatever. Oh. And there wasn't any seals there, but I, I even said that in a podcast, there, there wasn't a fence to keep them from coming down there to see what a moose tastes like. Sure. Or a guy from Arkansas either. But we, we didn't see any, and there's black bears there.

• 46:57Speaker 04

  Okay. We didn't see any, saw a wolf. Hmm. Had an opportunity at a wolf. Hmm. Had a good opportunity at a wolf. But I've heard that before. And it stay, it's still an oppor, it was, it still was an opportunity a wolf and I absolutely missed him. Oh. It was terrible. Sounds like an adventure. It was, it is what it is. Luckily, the moose is a lot bigger. I hit him.

• 47:22Speaker 06

  All right, I'll do one more quick one before we move on to the next segment. But people are asking how the Buck Hunter trip was that Randall and I went on. Yeah. It was a lot of fun. It was so, it was so much fun. I got a lot of footage I need to start sifting through. And we're going to put together a little video that's mostly about Randall and his journey competing in the Big Buck Hunter Amateur Open Tournament. Uh, but we also, we got an interview with the creator of the game, uh, which is, I mean, he was an awesome guy. The community there, it was unbelievable. Like everyone, like they're playing for real money, but everyone's just having a blast, you know? It was, it was a really cool environment. A lot of stimuli, just surrounded by arcade games and loud music for, for 10 hours a day, but it was, uh, it was a lot of fun. So.

• 48:03Speaker 07

  Is the, the guy who made Big Buck Hunter, is he a, a real Big Buck Hunter?

• 48:09Speaker 06

  Uh, no, he, he is not. Uh, but there were a lot of people there who were, um, real hunters. A few of their pictures, they were, were gripping grins and.

• 48:18Speaker 04

  Oh, that was my question.

• 48:19Speaker 06

  Yeah. Um.

• 48:20Speaker 04

  So what was the percentage of hunters there to just game players?

• 48:24Speaker 06

  I was hard to say. I mean, we didn't interview everybody. There were, there were 128 players.

• 48:28Speaker 04

  Oh dang.

• 48:28Speaker 06

  Um, but, but man, all, all the best players lived in like the middle of nowhere in Saskatchewan. So we kind of just assumed that those people probably do some real hunting. Uh, but, um, I don't know. I'd say it was probably around like 20% hunters, 80 non-hunters. Yeah. So they're, they're scattered in there.

• 48:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:45Speaker 05

  Can't wait to watch.

• 48:46Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 48:47Speaker 04

  It's gonna be fun.

• 48:48Speaker 06

  All right.

• 48:49Speaker 04

  Our next segment is called Craig Listing. And Corey kind of pulled this rabbit out of his hat or.

• 48:57Speaker 06

  This is a good one.

• 48:57Speaker 04

  I know that any other orifice you can name and.

• 49:01Speaker 06

  The hat is my favorite.

• 49:02Speaker 04

  The hat is probably the best thing. And, uh, so what we did was, uh, Corey, Seth and I last night, uh, our homework was to find something unique on a Craigslist somewhere in the U S. And we did that and got some screenshots of it. We're going to show. And Corey, you're, you're on, you're in the box, man.

• 49:23Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 49:23Speaker 04

  What'd you find?

• 49:24Speaker 05

  Phil, which one you got first there? It doesn't matter.

• 49:26Speaker 07

  Yeah, I'll pull it up here.

• 49:27Speaker 05

  I, I, I'm gonna share two of them just because they're so, so great. It was fun. I definitely.

• 49:32Speaker 06

  This one was yours, right, Corey?

• 49:33Speaker 05

  Yep. I definitely went down the Craigslist rabbit hole last night with a couple of whiskies. Uh, this one's just funny because it's, I can't really tell what they're selling, but it's titled Hunting Smoke Pole.

• 49:44Speaker 07

  Smoke pole with scope mounts.

• 49:47Speaker 05

  Obviously a rifle.

• 49:48Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 49:49Speaker 06

  It's a muzzleloader.

• 49:50Speaker 05

  Cause that's what I call a gun is a smoke pole. Got a picture of a dandy whitetail buck on a tailgate there, but there's no picture or anything of.

• 49:57Speaker 07

  Oh, it's a, it's a, it's a traditions buckstalker.

• 50:00Speaker 05

  Okay, traditions buckstalker.

• 50:01Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 50:02Speaker 05

  Be great to have a photo of that. I feel like if you're trying to sell something, but look what it does.

• 50:05Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 50:06Speaker 06

  He's showing you the results first.

• 50:08Speaker 05

  It will make a deer lay down in the back.

• 50:10Speaker 07

  Fifty caliber, size, size fifty. Yeah.

• 50:14Speaker 05

  Oh, that's everything you need to know.

• 50:15Speaker 07

  Condition, excellent.

• 50:16Speaker 06

  We'll, we'll take his word for it.

• 50:19Speaker 05

  But a smoke pole, three hundred and twenty-five bucks.

• 50:21Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 50:21Speaker 05

  That was, uh. Where's that at? Somewhere between West Virginia and East Virginia. Okay. From somebody from Montana doesn't know. That was great though. Okay. And then, uh, this one really caught my eye. It, it is advertised as a hunting blind. Or an extra at the pool, but it's a porta potty.

• 50:41Speaker 05

  Where, uh, what are you hunting in there? Cell phones?

• 50:45Speaker 05

  Don't fall in. Don't fall in. Hunting blind, extra at the pool. Guess who are messy for businesses? I'm not sure what kind of business inquiry.

• 50:53Speaker 06

  Weird post.

• 50:54Speaker 05

  That's to do your business. Never used. I mean, it does look very clean on the inside. Uh, this was in Florida. Which that was the first place I looked for funny hunting, uh, Craigslist ads. Right. Not sure why, but it says it's ready to go. Never used, clean, never used, but it's been cleaned out.

• 51:13Speaker 06

  So never used for, uh, relieving yourself or never used for hunting?

• 51:17Speaker 05

  There you go. Well. Grammar matters. It's, I do, I would love to see this in the woods and all of a sudden you just throw open the door and kapow.

• 51:28Speaker 05

  And then. In both directions.

• 51:31Speaker 05

  So that was random, obviously. Pretty good stuff. All right. Seth, what do you got, buddy?

• 51:36Speaker 06

  Uh. Uh, let's see. I don't remember which one you used.

• 51:39Speaker 07

  The, mine's the farmhouse with acre. There it is. Farmhouse with acre, thirty-nine thousand, five hundred dollars, which I felt was fair.

• 51:50Speaker 05

  Hmm. Mm-hmm.

• 51:51Speaker 07

  Um, anyway, the description is what kind of attracted me to this post. Old fashioned farmhouse, high in the private mountainside, West Virginia. Need work as is. And now this is confusing. I read, I read this as, uh, four feet, two inches by appointment only.

• 52:16Speaker 07

  No RTO, I don't know what that is. Cash only, must sell quickly. My loss is your gain. Near Rock, West Virginia, great hunting spot and four wheel trails.

• 52:28Speaker 05

  Cool.

• 52:28Speaker 07

  Selling point, selling point.

• 52:30Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 52:31Speaker 07

  Um, oh, this, this here grabbed my attention. It says, country road, take me home.

• 52:36Speaker 04

  Ah.

• 52:37Speaker 05

  Hey, boy, that'll just make you.

• 52:39Speaker 04

  That'd be a great song.

• 52:40Speaker 07

  And then he reiterates again, it needs work. And it, it says, again, it needs work and a handyman dream. As is, seriously interested buyers only.

• 52:56Speaker 05

  The Bob Vila special.

• 52:57Speaker 04

  What's RTO stand for?

• 52:59Speaker 07

  I don't know.

• 53:00Speaker 04

  You can't have any of that though.

• 53:01Speaker 07

  People with more Craigslist experience would be able to answer that.

• 53:03Speaker 04

  No RTO.

• 53:05Speaker 07

  What does RTO stand for? Return, return to office? Nope, that's not it.

• 53:09Speaker 05

  Recovery time objective?

• 53:12Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, that sounds good.

• 53:13Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 53:14Speaker 07

  But the, where he says, well, hunting property, I like that. And then he adds, country road, take me home.

• 53:20Speaker 05

  Yes, lovely.

• 53:22Speaker 04

  That's classy.

• 53:22Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 53:23Speaker 05

  It's a good tune.

• 53:23Speaker 04

  That's like, that's marketing right there, pal. I like it.

• 53:27Speaker 05

  It does sound like a dream. And a nightmare.

• 53:30Speaker 07

  Handyman dream.

• 53:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm, I'm not a handyman. I don't like to do that stuff. That's why there are handymen.

• 53:36Speaker 07

  Yes, but if you want a, a, a great hunting spot, farmhouse with acre. I don't know if you meant to say acres.

• 53:44Speaker 05

  With acre.

• 53:45Speaker 07

  Not, it's, there's no, the acres are not listed here.

• 53:49Speaker 06

  So RTO, the chat, the chat's yelling at all of us, mostly me, because I wasn't reading it. It means rent to own.

• 53:54Speaker 07

  Oh, no renting to own. Rent to own, no rent to own. All right.

• 53:58Speaker 04

  All right.

• 53:59Speaker 05

  This guy sounds like he's in a pickle and he needs cash now.

• 54:02Speaker 04

  Oh yeah.

• 54:02Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah.

• 54:03Speaker 04

  It's his money.

• 54:04Speaker 07

  He needs.

• 54:04Speaker 04

  He needs cash now.

• 54:05Speaker 07

  He needs, yeah. Call JG Wentworth.

• 54:07Speaker 04

  All right. This is, uh, this is what I found on my first perusal last night was.

• 54:16Speaker 05

  There we are. Oh yeah.

• 54:17Speaker 04

  Now this is in Council Bluffs, near Council Bluffs, Iowa.

• 54:22Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 54:23Speaker 04

  Man, this guy, it's 50% off. All of this stuff that you're seeing, and I, and I, I highlighted two things. That big old pike right there with the, that's a jack of diamonds. But spoon bait hanging out of his mouth. Now, that is, that is, in Canada, that's like the Gordon Lightfoot of fishing baits.

• 54:41Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 54:42Speaker 04

  They, you can catch everything on there.

• 54:44Speaker 07

  That's probably caught millions of pike.

• 54:46Speaker 04

  You can catch it, anything on there, except pneumonia. I mean, it is, that's what we fished with when I was bear hunting up there. It's what we fished with when I was with Craig two weeks ago. And we, we caught some pike and, and walleye. And so if you can't catch a fish, you can buy one and hang on your wall. And the next thing, which is not gonna be that big of a deal to y'all, but to the folks that know me, I first thought that was for like twin papooses that you'd put that in there like to tote babies on your back. But that's snowshoes.

• 55:20Speaker 05

  Those are snowshoes, oh yeah.

• 55:22Speaker 04

  That is, uh, foreign to me.

• 55:25Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 55:26Speaker 04

  But, but they're made out of wood and I thought it was really cool and that'd be cool hanging up in a, in a hunting cabin. Or wearing them because it's snowing outside right now.

• 55:34Speaker 07

  Mm-hmm.

• 55:34Speaker 04

  But anyway, Council Bluffs, Iowa, everything is 50% off. You're actually losing money by not going to buy this stuff.

• 55:41Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 55:42Speaker 04

  You don't wanna lose money.

• 55:43Speaker 07

  Now, does he, does he say how much each item is or just everything's 50% off?

• 55:48Speaker 04

  Everything's 50% off. You just, I mean, I mean, what other, what other would you need?

• 55:52Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 55:53Speaker 04

  That seems to lure my wife into every shoe store.

• 55:56Speaker 07

  BOGO. That's what got me in that, uh, that fishing bin, Kittery Trading Post, 50% off.

• 56:02Speaker 04

  50% off. You just start picking up stuff.

• 56:04Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 56:04Speaker 04

  So anyway, pretty cool Craigslist items, you can find everything on there. He was also selling a washer and dryer in there, but.

• 56:10Speaker 05

  Oh, really?

• 56:11Speaker 04

  I was more impressed with that dead fish and the snowshoes.

• 56:14Speaker 05

  50% off, heck, you get the washer for free.

• 56:16Speaker 04

  It's like, oh yeah, well, you're, you're, you're going to pay him for one snowshoe.

• 56:21Speaker 05

  Right.

• 56:21Speaker 04

  You have to order right, the other one comes in.

• 56:24Speaker 07

  You could probably turn those around and make a profit.

• 56:26Speaker 04

  I like it, I like it.

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• 58:32Speaker 04

  Now, the next folks, we're ready to go on, aren't we Phil? Yeah. I want to talk with my friends from Case Knives, John Pantuso and Tom Taylor. They were the folks that reached out to me at first when I first did a podcast and just organically mentioned Case Knives. And these guys have been, they come on as the whole, as a sponsor for the show, but they've become dear friends of mine and my family's. We've been out there to visit with them and talk to them. And I talk to these guys almost daily, but absolutely weekly. And they're just, they couldn't be better. I've been on some events with them

• 59:13Speaker 04

  and been to shows that were sponsored by Case and, and it's just a, it's a big family group of folks and I just absolutely love it. And they're from your neck of the woods, Pennsylvania, but in Bradford, Pennsylvania. Yeah. Coming to us live, there is Tom Taylor on the right and the T-Mo Josh Allen on the left. That is John Pantuso. Hello, boys.

• 59:39Speaker 03

  Hey, thanks for, hey, guys, thanks for having us.

• 59:42Speaker 10

  I was, I was wondering how long it was going to take you to crack that one, Brent.

• 59:45Speaker 04

  Oh, man.

• 59:46Speaker 10

  Yeah, thank you guys for, thank you guys for having us on, it's good to be here.

• 59:49Speaker 04

  I've been sitting on that one, just waiting, waiting. But you could absolutely do stunts for that guy. Especially before you got your haircut. But you guys are out in Bradford, Pennsylvania. Case Knives, they're making pocket knives for a hundred and how many years now?

• 1:00:09Speaker 03

  Hundred and thirty-six.

• 1:00:10Speaker 04

  Hundred and thirty-six years. Wow. We went out there last summer, summer or last year, Alexis and Bailey and I went out. They invited us to come out for a maiden Bradford event that they have out there. And they took us on a tour of. The where they make all the knives and a case pocket knife that I tote in my pocket goes through like a hundred and sixty seven steps from the time the raw materials come in there to that knife goes out the door. And there's all the people that work in there and they got a humongous American flag in the background on it. And while I was in, I was in there, I asked the guy that was giving me the tour, uh,

• 1:00:54Speaker 04

  Tony DeFazio, uh, who's an engineer, is that right? Engineer with Case?

• 1:00:58Speaker 03

  Yep, yep.

• 1:00:59Speaker 04

  He was giving us the tour and I asked him if I could film in there, you know, for like social media stuff. And he said, yeah, man, you film anything you want to. He said, but make sure you get that big American flag that's hanging on the wall back there.

• 1:01:10Speaker 07

  Nice.

• 1:01:11Speaker 04

  Cause we're really proud of that. And I'm, I'm just proud to be here and connected with y'all, associated with you. Tell me what y'all got going on that's new out in case right now.

• 1:01:25Speaker 03

  Well, I was just looking on Craigslist to try to buy that hunting line.

• 1:01:32Speaker 03

  No, but, but seriously, uh, we've got a lot of good stuff going on. Um, we just launched a cool new product, Crossroads Barlow. Uh, it's our hunting, hunting season around here. So making sure all of our partners have the right hunting knives. I know our dads are always asking us, you know, for new equipment to use. Yeah. But.

• 1:01:51Speaker 10

  Yeah. Yeah. And obviously like, you know, Christmas is already around the corner. Um, so the gift giving season, I mean, who doesn't love getting a knife as a present? Um, you know, and it's our product especially like Brian, you can attest to this, it's, it's generational, right? So, you know, you got dads buying knives for their sons and so on and so forth. So this is, this is our kind of a busy season right now, but, but we love it. We could sell knives every day. It's great.

• 1:02:16Speaker 04

  Well, I'm happy to report that they were at once, uh, sold out about a month ago, but they're back in stock now. Uh, my, the Brent Reeves signature case mini trapper is back in stock here at, at, in the media on the online store. And they'll be getting them in the Bozeman store here in the next couple of days, few days. But you can get them now on the, on the store and that is an incredible, uh, Tribute to my family, not to me, but to my family's relationship with Case knives and now the relationship that we have with the folks that make them. And I just couldn't be more proud to call you guys friends, first of all, and business partners, secondly.

• 1:03:01Speaker 04

  So it's just, I appreciate it so much. I know that, I know that we have a text thread. These two guys right here and me and my wife have a text thread that it goes back.

• 1:03:14Speaker 03

  Shout out to Alexis. We love Alexis. I give her a shout out.

• 1:03:17Speaker 04

  That goes on periodically and we, we have, we have a good time. The Barlow, y'all just came back out. Tell us about the Barlow and the history of the, of the Barlow and how that's the Barlow pocket knife, which should be common knowledge to folks probably my age and older and they may, y'all may not know what I'm talking about, but tell us about the Barlow knife.

• 1:03:41Speaker 10

  So the, the Barlow, we, we call like the knife, the Barlow's a pattern, right? So like the trapper's a pattern, mini trapper's a pattern. The Barlow is probably one of the oldest jackknife patterns, you know, that even predates Case, right? And so everybody knows, you know, our, our product we make pinned together with the bone handles, brass liners, we use stainless carbon steel, but recently last year we started a new product line called the Crossroads. And so now we're reintroducing the Barlow pattern with sort of like a, a modern touch to it. So it's, it's screwed together, kind of like a modern flipper would be, and it's got some more modern materials, like the handles are Richlight G10, so they're super light and

• 1:04:25Speaker 10

  they're, they're pretty strong and durable as well. And it's an upgraded steel too, so it's S35B, and so it's got super good edge retention, corrosion resistance. And it, it doesn't take away from what we, what our bread and butter is, which is the, you know, your, your favorite, the, the mini trapper with, with the bone handles. I mean, we're always going to do that, but this just gives us sort of a different product offering for those that are looking to carry a, a pocket slip joint, but with something that's a little bit more modern.

• 1:04:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, our slip joints will be around forever, but just putting a modern span on a traditional pattern, keeping that heritage of the 136 years, but you know, just bringing it into, you know, 2026.

• 1:05:04Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 1:05:04Speaker 07

  It's a beautiful knife. Yeah.

• 1:05:08Speaker 07

  Um, I got a question for you guys. Um, like how, how many different knives do you like, different styles of knives? Do you make?

• 1:05:18Speaker 03

  So.

• 1:05:20Speaker 04

  That's a big one.

• 1:05:20Speaker 03

  A lot. I think there's, I think it's in the 20, we call them patterns. So there's 20, 22 different patterns. We make of slip joints. Then we've got fixed blades. We've got, um, some modern flippers.

• 1:05:34Speaker 03

  If you walk through that factory, I think you'd be amazed at not only the people that are working there, but just the operation and the amount of intricacies that go into every single different knife.

• 1:05:45Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:05:45Speaker 03

  It's pretty crazy.

• 1:05:46Speaker 10

  I think like with all the different, cause we, we love using natural materials. So, so bone we use, uh, from Azibu cattle, which is from South America. Um, so we use that bone on quite a bit of our stuff. We like using, uh, woods as well.

• 1:05:59Speaker 03

  Buffalo horn.

• 1:06:00Speaker 10

  Buffalo horn. Um, and we've done a lot of other abalone, a lot of other really like pretty natural materials. So I mean, with all the different bone dime variations we do, there's probably what like six to 700 different individual SKUs that we make.

• 1:06:13Speaker 07

  Oh, wow. Yeah. And like you mentioned that Barlow was that predates case, but like how many patterns or whatever you want to call them, or, or did like case come up with?

• 1:06:26Speaker 03

  Oh, I don't know an exact number, but there's a lot of them. Um, just like the copper lock, the side buster, side buster junior.

• 1:06:36Speaker 10

  The rust lock.

• 1:06:36Speaker 03

  The rust lock. Yeah. There's definitely pattern specific to case that are trademarked.

• 1:06:41Speaker 07

  Nice.

• 1:06:43Speaker 04

  I know that you, you mentioned about walking in, how incredible it is to walk in and see all the different knives in the factory. And I was like, my wife Alexis in Hobby Lobby, I had to touch everything in there. I couldn't go by a shelf without laying my hands on it. It was, it was absolutely incredible.

• 1:07:01Speaker 03

  We had to have a guy following Brent, taking the fingerprints off.

• 1:07:04Speaker 04

  They, they weighed me on the way in and weighed me on the way out and make sure I didn't stiff, stick my pockets full. But there was the, the people was really, was what was really heartfelt. And I met a man in there. And I talked about this on the, on the podcast. I tell a real quick story. When they invited us to come out, I wanted to take some knives out there that were special to me. So I, I, I took the first knife that, that, that John sent me in the mail for the, just like, hey, we, we appreciate what you said about our knives. So I took that knife and then I took one that I bought for my dad when I was 14 and I got that, got that knife back after he passed away.

• 1:07:41Speaker 04

  So I carried that knife and we went in the factory and the first guy that they introduced us to is working and there's a man by the name of Mr. Dave Jackson. I think he worked like 53 years. And at that time he had worked like 51 years. So I was talking with him, he introduced me to him. I was thinking, I started doing a little math in my head and I pulled that knife out of my pocket. And on case knife, there's a, if you open up the, the blade on the tang, which is right next to where it clips into the, into the knife itself. There's always codes and, and, and dots on there than you can tell from what, when that knife was made on there, if you have a key to it. So I, I handed, I pulled that knife out of my pocket and I handed it to Mr. Jackson. I said, would, would you have worked on his knife?

• 1:08:23Speaker 04

  And, and he pulled it, opened it up and handed it and said, oh yeah, I worked on that knife and handed it back to me. Oh, that's cool. It was really cool to be there and talk with the man that built the knife that I gave to my dad, the first knife I ever bought. I gave it to him and then I got that knife back and to take it on that, on that. That's cool. Big circle of taking it back out there. Yeah. Was really cool. And he was there. I talked to several folks, man, who've been working there like 30 years, over 30 years and generational employees. It is, it truly is one big family out there. That's cool. It's really cool.

• 1:08:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, they're beautiful knives. My son, Marshall, has a knife that his grandfather gave him. Marshall always asks about it. It's a case knife. I couldn't tell you which model it is, but it says, uh, grandfather and grandson on it.

• 1:09:11Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:09:11Speaker 05

  And that'll be his first hunting knife, hopefully in about three years when we get to go deer hunting, he'll get to break that out. He asks about it all the time.

• 1:09:18Speaker 04

  Nice. Beautiful knife. It's awesome, man. It's good stuff. Well, I certainly appreciate, uh, you guys being on here. Uh, anything else we need to cover before? We move along? You guys got anything? Marissa.

• 1:09:35Speaker 10

  Oh Brett, how did you like, I do gotta ask, how, uh, how did you like that Ridgeback when you were processing that moose up in Canada?

• 1:09:43Speaker 04

  Oh, I saw that. Man, let me tell you, you see the pictures of that? I did see that, yeah. I'm gonna put those pictures up on my Instagram so folks can see it. It was, the first thing is, I don't know why we didn't call that knife the Razorback, but after that being said.

• 1:09:58Speaker 10

  Alright.

• 1:10:00Speaker 04

  That being said, Craig was very impressed with that, with that knife, and Dave Gardner as well, and Dave, I don't know how many moose he's skinned, but he's skinned a lot of elk. But, uh, they were very impressed. We, I went, we went through that whole moose and I didn't have to sharpen it afterward. We were cutting meat on it, uh, cutting meat up on it the third day, and I finally put it on a wet rock. But it, it was really good, really held the edge and really easy to use. And, uh, yeah, I loved it. But I'm, I'm saying, you know, Razorback, Ridgeback, it could've. I think, I think we missed the opportunity there.

• 1:10:39Speaker 10

  We'll see what we can do there. We'll see what we can do.

• 1:10:42Speaker 04

  It might be too late. Alright, thank you guys, I appreciate you so much, and, uh, look forward to talking to you probably before I get home today.

• 1:10:52Speaker 10

  Yeah, plan on, yeah. Yeah, thank you guys so much.

• 1:10:54Speaker 04

  Thank you guys, appreciate it. Take care.

• 1:10:56Speaker 06

  Thanks guys, see ya.

• 1:10:56Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:10:58Speaker 04

  Oh man, those dudes, they're, they're great people, and they're, they're a lot of fun, a lot of fun. Uh, have we got any more listener feedback?

• 1:11:06Speaker 06

  Yeah, we can do a few more. Uh, this is from Keegan. Guys have a favorite headlamp? Anything you wanna?

• 1:11:13Speaker 04

  I do.

• 1:11:14Speaker 06

  Yeah, have it Brent.

• 1:11:15Speaker 04

  I do, I've got, uh, my friend Michael Roseman makes Sunspot Lights. Oh, yeah. Coon Island Lights. And Steve loves them as well, but he also makes one called a Ben Oak Light, and it's like a head, just the, just got the straps that go on your noggin instead of having the, the, uh... You know, the helmet.

• 1:11:34Speaker 06

  The helmet now.

• 1:11:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, and I actually used it up in um in Manitoba on that moose hunt and I'll put some pictures of it up there. That's that's my favorite. You can get them from uh sunspot huntinglights.com, I think it is.

• 1:11:48Speaker 05

  We had them at the meteor store for a hot minute, but I don't know if we do anymore. That might be my favorite headlamp too, because I was bear hunting, black bear hunting in Montana with Clay and his son Bear John.

• 1:11:58Speaker 04

  Mm hmm.

• 1:11:58Speaker 05

  And we had a grizzly bear that I had bumped three times and she seemed like she was just kind of hanging around us. Plus, we had a dead bear on the back of our backs.

• 1:12:05Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:12:06Speaker 05

  And when the sun went down, my little black diamond headlamp was doing great, at least being able to see one step ahead. But then Claybo broke out that big coon light. Holy cow.

• 1:12:16Speaker 04

  Hey, yeah.

• 1:12:17Speaker 05

  That was really comforting.

• 1:12:18Speaker 06

  Gris country.

• 1:12:19Speaker 05

  It felt like the sun came back up.

• 1:12:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, sun spotlight, that's the reason it is.

• 1:12:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, I need to get one of those.

• 1:12:24Speaker 04

  That's my favorite.

• 1:12:25Speaker 06

  Cool, thanks. Uh Devon just wants to let us know that his eight year old son Dylan caught his first fish yesterday.

• 1:12:31Speaker 04

  Dylan.

• 1:12:31Speaker 06

  Big northern pike. He's watching the show. Um.

• 1:12:35Speaker 05

  Congrats.

• 1:12:35Speaker 06

  Congrats.

• 1:12:36Speaker 04

  Congratulations, Dylan.

• 1:12:37Speaker 06

  That's awesome.

• 1:12:39Speaker 05

  Not the last.

• 1:12:40Speaker 04

  Not the last.

• 1:12:41Speaker 06

  Sure it won't be. This one's just for me. Brian asks, do y'all let your wives decorate the shoulder mounts around the house for Christmas? I don't know why we have to, you know, relegate that to just the wives. You know, I I'd love to do that, too. Uh but do you guys decorate your mounts for holidays?

• 1:12:55Speaker 04

  Alexis tried to put a Santa Claus hat on a deer I had one time and I said, no, we're not doing that.

• 1:12:59Speaker 06

  Ooh.

• 1:13:00Speaker 04

  Disrespect.

• 1:13:01Speaker 06

  Tough.

• 1:13:01Speaker 05

  It's I agree, it's a little disrespectful.

• 1:13:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:13:03Speaker 05

  But my wife and I have a funny agreement where I get to put them pretty much wherever I want. But she gets to hang stuff on it. Yeah, my elk has a Rudolph Christmas ornament hanging on it since last Christmas.

• 1:13:16Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:13:17Speaker 06

  Nice.

• 1:13:17Speaker 05

  Too awkward to reach without a ladder, so.

• 1:13:19Speaker 04

  And I'm not judging, folks. That's just that's just my opinion. I I don't do it, but you can if you want to.

• 1:13:24Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:13:25Speaker 04

  And be wrong.

• 1:13:27Speaker 06

  Uh, this one's for Corey from Chase. I don't know if you have an answer, Corey, but he seems to think you will. What clothing type is best for early season archery hunting? Polyester, lightweight merino, or some, some type of blend?

• 1:13:39Speaker 05

  Oh, merino all the way.

• 1:13:40Speaker 06

  Says for temps in the like 70 to 90 degree range.

• 1:13:43Speaker 05

  Mm hmm. Yeah, I'd say merino all the way. I mean, there are some great synthetic polyesters.

• 1:13:52Speaker 05

  First Light makes the Yuma, which is great too, but you just can't beat First Light's wick. If you like the hoodie like I do, keep the sun off your ears and all not, or you can just get the quarter zipper, the long sleeve. But lightweight merino, I always have a backup in my backpack, just in case I get too sweaty. If it's that hot, you probably don't need a backup, but this time of year, that's always against my skin.

• 1:14:13Speaker 07

  Well, that's the nice thing about merino is when it's 70 to 90 and you're hiking around the elk woods, you're not going to stink.

• 1:14:19Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:14:19Speaker 07

  But you will stink in synthetic.

• 1:14:21Speaker 05

  Synthetic gets pretty ripe after half a day where merino will last you a week.

• 1:14:25Speaker 04

  A little spicy.

• 1:14:26Speaker 05

  Yeah. Spicy to the nostrils.

• 1:14:28Speaker 04

  Get a little spicy.

• 1:14:29Speaker 05

  Stings the nostrils.

• 1:14:30Speaker 07

  I like merino for everything, every time of the year.

• 1:14:32Speaker 04

  Me too.

• 1:14:33Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:14:33Speaker 07

  Hot, cold.

• 1:14:34Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:14:34Speaker 07

  In between.

• 1:14:35Speaker 05

  Base layer, mid layer. Yeah, go merino.

• 1:14:38Speaker 06

  A really quick one from Russell. That was from Chase, by the way. Russell's asking what caliber you use for your moose. Uh, he says, sorry if this was asked, but he had to leave the show to help a youth deer hunter.

• 1:14:46Speaker 05

  Great.

• 1:14:46Speaker 04

  Well, that's a good reason to live, to leave, but it was a 300 PRC and I had to shoot that rascal three times with it. All three of them were then was in the ballroom and it, he acted like he didn't even faze him. It was tremendous, tremendous round. It performed wonderfully and I got one of them back. The tech, the guy that's tanning the hide found one of them.

• 1:15:08Speaker 07

  Oh, cool.

• 1:15:09Speaker 04

  So that'll be a little, little nugget of gold I'll get to keep along with the antlers and.

• 1:15:15Speaker 05

  A nice little mushroom.

• 1:15:16Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:15:17Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:15:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was good. Yeah. 212 grains of let's stop and lay down.

• 1:15:23Speaker 05

  Steak.

• 1:15:24Speaker 06

  Cameron's asking if you guys put in for eastern elk quota hunts? Have you ever done that any?

• 1:15:30Speaker 07

  I, I put in for Pennsylvania.

• 1:15:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, Seth and I were just looking at some.

• 1:15:34Speaker 07

  Yeah, I was just showing.

• 1:15:35Speaker 05

  Pennsylvania bulls. Good lord, those are on a different level compared out here, but no, I've never had.

• 1:15:40Speaker 04

  Draw for them, Pennsylvania?

• 1:15:42Speaker 07

  Yep. Yeah. And I know Kentucky is, that's probably your best odds of getting a tag.

• 1:15:49Speaker 05

  You're right. Yeah.

• 1:15:50Speaker 07

  Um, I don't, I don't know the other states. There's, there's a handful of states that have. You know, eastern elk, um, I should say elk in the east or not eastern elk, but um, yeah, there's, and it seems like more and more states are starting to have seasons and more and more states are starting to have elk.

• 1:16:10Speaker 06

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:16:11Speaker 07

  These days. So they do well back east. They do real well in Pennsylvania. I know that.

• 1:16:17Speaker 06

  They get big.

• 1:16:18Speaker 05

  Let's do one more here. I thought this one was fun. This is from Leland again. He's asking what the oldest rifle that you have used to harvest game is? If you know the answer to this question.

• 1:16:27Speaker 04

  It'd probably be a thirty thirty Winchester thirty thirty. I think that's probably killed more deer than CWD. Uh, in, in South Arkansas where I grew up, it was a thirty thirty lever action rifle, whether it was a Marlin or a Winchester.

• 1:16:43Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:16:44Speaker 04

  And that was probably, and it was, um,

• 1:16:48Speaker 04

  uh, my oldest brother, Tim, is his brother-in-law and it was his grandfather's gun, I think. So it was like three generations that, and I got to borrow it and, and, and kill a deer with it.

• 1:17:02Speaker 07

  My first deer rifle was a, a Husqvarna three oh eight.

• 1:17:08Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:17:09Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 1:17:09Speaker 04

  The chainsaw folks.

• 1:17:10Speaker 07

  Yep. Same company that used to make rifles.

• 1:17:13Speaker 04

  I did not know.

• 1:17:14Speaker 07

  I don't know the year of that rifle. I still have it. Um, had, had a straight red or straight four power red field on it. And yeah, I killed a lot of deer with that thing until I bought a different rifle, but.

• 1:17:27Speaker 04

  And that was a steel rifle you bought after that?

• 1:17:30Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:17:31Speaker 04

  Real loud. So loud.

• 1:17:33Speaker 07

  I had to put oil in it. Um, but no, I, I should, I should, I'd never looked up the year of that rifle, the Husqvarna.

• 1:17:41Speaker 04

  Uh, I've never even heard of it. So that gives me something.

• 1:17:44Speaker 07

  But I'm sure that's the, that's the oldest rifle that I've ever killed something with.

• 1:17:48Speaker 05

  Yeah. Mine's a lot less exciting. It would've been an old two forty-three that was my dad's that would've been my first big game harvest, which would've been an antelope when I was 12. I couldn't tell you the brand. But I do remember it was a 243.

• 1:18:00Speaker 04

  Still got it?

• 1:18:01Speaker 07

  Nice.

• 1:18:02Speaker 05

  My father does.

• 1:18:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, dad's got it.

• 1:18:03Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:18:04Speaker 04

  Little man, a marshal, get on that.

• 1:18:06Speaker 05

  That'd be a great first gun.

• 1:18:07Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:18:09Speaker 04

  Well, if he shoots it half as good as he writes a book.

• 1:18:11Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:18:12Speaker 04

  It's gonna be outstanding.

• 1:18:13Speaker 05

  Watch out, Steven Rinella.

• 1:18:14Speaker 04

  He coming for you. Phil, is that it?

• 1:18:18Speaker 07

  Yeah, let's go and call it there.

• 1:18:19Speaker 04

  We're gonna. We're gonna put the cork in it, or pull the plug, or whatever it is. Alexis and Bailey, get ready, daddy's coming home. Thank you, boys.

• 1:18:27Speaker 07

  You got a plane to catch.

• 1:18:28Speaker 04

  I got a plane to catch. Uh, thank y'all for being here, and thank everybody for tuning in and listening. Hopefully, I'll be back soon and do it again. Thank you, Phil.

• 1:18:37Speaker 05

  Hey.

• 1:18:38Steven Rinella?

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• 1:18:38Speaker 07

  Thanks, guys.

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