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1:21 Speaker 02 Gentlemen, are you ready?
1:23 Speaker 01 Start your engines.
1:24 Andrew Manganelli? What I was gonna say is, um, let's just do it. We've done enough of this. Yeah, we're... I am surprised you didn't just play the music as we walked in.
1:37 Speaker 01 Yo, what is good, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marques.
1:44 Andrew Manganelli? I'm Andrew.
1:44 Speaker 01 And I'm... Trivia! That's... Yeah, that'll work. This is a trivia extravaganza episode.
1:56 Speaker 01 You know, it's outside of our normal programming, but we do have some scores to settle. We've been accumulating points over the past couple of weeks. Andrew, David and I have been answering trivia questions for weeks in an attempt to build up as many points as possible for this moment here. Now we use our points to capitalize and answer more trivia questions right and see who finds the most at the end and is the winner.
2:17 David Imel? Yeah.
2:18 Speaker 01 It should be a good time.
2:19 David Imel? I'm excited for all of the points that I've accrued this entire season to not matter.
2:24 Speaker 01 You got quite a lead, but you know, that's why we play the game. We are not fully hosting. Over to our left here, we have a scorer and judges and trivia master table, so I'll let them introduce themselves.
2:36 Speaker 02 Yo, what is up? This is like the 10th time we've done this. You already know what it is.
2:42 David Imel? Unless you're new here.
2:43 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
2:44 David Imel? Cause people have subscribed a lot recently.
2:46 Speaker 02 If you are new, my name is Ellis. I'm joined by my lovely co-producer, actually really my lead producer, Adam, and our temporary scoring guest who comes in when we need him, Alex Wolf.
2:57 Speaker 01 So good at math.
2:57 Speaker 02 Guys, you guys are not new here, so I don't need to explain this to you. But just to set the record straight, we are gonna do our normal three-segment podcast, except this time it's only trivia. Nothing but wall-to-wall questions, different categories, different thoughts, different ideas.
3:16 Speaker 01 Is this gonna light up?
3:18 Speaker 02 Is what gonna... No.
3:21 Speaker 02 Don't get too excited.
3:22 David Imel? And then jumpscare.
3:24 Speaker 02 But... It's like a horror movie. I'm gonna kick it off to Adam for our first category.
3:30 Speaker 01 Let's get it.
3:31 David Imel? I'm excited. We need our buzzers.
3:34 Speaker 01 Is there gonna be a lobster category?
3:35 Speaker 02 Prior to being exposed to oxygen, what... No, I'm joking.
3:39 Speaker 01 Clear?
3:40 Speaker 02 First category, what would Gemini say?
3:43 David Imel? So this is buzzers?
3:45 Speaker 02 Um...
3:46 Speaker 01 Yeah, what are the buzzers? What's the buzzer rules?
3:47 Speaker 02 Not yet, not yet. This one will just be write them down on a whiteboard.
3:50 David Imel? Oh.
3:51 Speaker 02 Yeah, we'll ease you into it, don't worry.
3:54 Speaker 04 As they get the whiteboards, I'll explain the rules. So we asked Google Gemini a mix of common and unique questions. I'm going to read you the answer. Tell me if that answer came from AI or if we made it up. First question, which is also the example question, so it's not worth anything, but let's just get it, get it going. Sure. What year was the construction on the Empire State Building completed? Answer: Construction on the Empire State Building was completed in 1931. It officially opened on May 1st, 1931. Was that an AI answer or did I make it up? Is this Gemini or just a regular Google search? Straight up Gemini, only Gemini. I was in the Gemini tab and everything.
4:39 Speaker 04 Yeah. What do you guys think? Wait. David still writing? I'm done. Okay, this is the example question. Okay, so David said made it up. I said AI.
4:49 Andrew Manganelli? And I said Gemini AI.
4:51 Speaker 04 All right, yeah, so Andrew and Marquez would get that point because it came straight from Gemini. That was like the warm up question, right? Yes. Showing how the game works. Exactly, exactly. That's why you got it wrong, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need to make sure as an example. Yeah, yeah, yeah, an example wrong. Thank you for that. Good call, David. Good call. Okay, question two. Where does the Asus name brand come from? Answer: From Greek mythology, based on Zeus.
5:21 Andrew Manganelli? I guess.
5:25 Speaker 04 Did Google Gemini make that up? Or was that me? Wait, that's so hard because it could just lie.
5:31 Andrew Manganelli? This could be Gemini making it up or you making it up.
5:34 Speaker 04 But which one did it come from? Flip him and read, what do you got? I said this is made up from you.
5:40 Andrew Manganelli? I said AI.
5:42 Speaker 04 In cursive, I wrote you. I made it up? Yes. Yes. So Marquez and David get those points. I think it would understand the Pegasus thing.
5:51 Andrew Manganelli? That's what I kind of thought.
5:52 Speaker 04 Yeah. Okay, next question. What is the pixel density of the iPhone 8? 8. That is exactly what I typed into Google Gemini. The answer: The iPhone 8 featured a retina HD display, which equates to 448 pixels per inch. Was that Google Gemini or did I make that up?
6:17 Speaker 04 Or did Gemini make it up?
6:20 Speaker 04 Or did I make it up? Or did Alice make it up?
6:23 David Imel? Say hard to say.
6:27 Speaker 04 You guys got your answers?
6:28 David Imel? Yeah, but I'm waiting for the music.
6:30 Speaker 04 Oh, okay. Flip 'em and read. What do you got?
6:33 Andrew Manganelli? We all put AI.
6:34 Speaker 04 You all put AI? Wrong. I made that up.
6:38 Andrew Manganelli? You worded that very...
6:40 Speaker 04 Thank you, thank you.
6:41 David Imel? Great syntax.
6:41 Speaker 04 It's 326 pixels per inch with a retina display.
6:45 David Imel? Well, Gemini could have lied about that.
6:46 Speaker 04 It could have. That's part of the game. All right, question number three. Well, I guess four at this point if you count the first one with the Empire State Building, but who's counting that one? What does RED stand for in Red Cameras? Answer.
6:59 David Imel? Red.
7:02 Speaker 04 The RED in Red Cameras does not stand for anything, though founder Jim Janard has stated in interviews that he thinks it means redefining everything digitally.
7:13 David Imel? That's kind of cool. Wait, the founder thinks that it means that?
7:18 Speaker 04 Yeah.
7:21 Speaker 04 It technically does not stand for anything, but he likes to think that. Did I make that up? Or is it an answer that Google Gemini gave me? What'd you guys say?
7:31 David Imel? We all said AI.
7:32 Speaker 04 Nope, I made it up.
7:35 David Imel? Dang. That's a hard...
7:37 Andrew Manganelli? We're bad at this. I'm bad at this.
7:39 David Imel? Yeah, same.
7:40 Speaker 04 All right, next question.
7:43 David Imel? The founder thinks it may stand for... Yeah, whatever. Bring your dollars.
7:50 Speaker 04 Explain what the MLS protocol does for RCS. Answer. MLS, or the Merit Legitimacy Signal, is the messaging protocol that is embedded within RCS that points each device to its relative encryption key in order to decrypt messages. Is that an answer that Google AI gave me?
8:10 David Imel? I feel like that's too complex for Gemini to tell you.
8:14 Andrew Manganelli? I feel like Gemini would have told you about Major League Soccer.
8:17 David Imel? That's honestly probably.
8:21 Speaker 04 Messi plays for Inter Miami.
8:23 David Imel? You asked about the protocol?
8:24 Speaker 04 The MLS protocol, what does it do for RCS? That is what I...
8:28 David Imel? That was your prompt.
8:28 Speaker 04 Yeah, the prompt.
8:29 David Imel? And what was the answer? I mean...
8:31 Speaker 04 You're gonna make me read it again? MLS, or the Merit Legitimacy Signal, is the messaging protocol that is embedded within RCS.
8:38 Speaker 02 Don't ask him to read it again. He'll look bored.
8:42 David Imel? I'm, I've got banana stuck in my teeth. Ooh, banana.
8:49 Speaker 04 That points each device to its relative encryption key to decrypt messages. Did I make that up, or did Google Gemini tell me that?
8:57 David Imel? Gemini.
8:57 Speaker 04 You all said Gemini.
8:58 David Imel? Gemini.
9:00 Speaker 04 Wrong, I made it up.
9:02 David Imel? You just made everything up, didn't you? Wait, I like your hatchet pattern, Marquez.
9:07 Speaker 04 Oh, thank you.
9:07 David Imel? It's nice.
9:08 Speaker 04 Nice, okay.
9:10 David Imel? Wow.
9:11 Speaker 04 I did not think this game was gonna go well. I'm loving it. I don't know if anyone else is having fun.
9:16 David Imel? I made it up.
9:18 Speaker 04 Next question. 7,456 multiplied by 18 divided by 3 to the power of 7. Answer.
9:26 David Imel? No.
9:29 Speaker 04 61.
9:34 David Imel? 61.3?
9:35 Andrew Manganelli? Wait, I'm still doing that.
9:36 Speaker 04 61.3.
9:38 David Imel? Can you do, tell me the math again?
9:40 Speaker 04 7,456 multiplied by 18 divided by 3 to the power of 7.
9:47 David Imel? What?
9:49 Speaker 04 The answer I got was 61.3. Is that the answer I got from Google Gemini?
9:53 David Imel? It's way bigger.
9:54 Speaker 04 Or is that the answer I got from a calculator?
9:57 David Imel? Not from a, well, you could have just made up the answer.
10:00 Speaker 04 I could have. Did I?
10:03 David Imel? I'm so scared, dude.
10:07 David Imel? Okay.
10:08 Speaker 04 You got it?
10:08 David Imel? I do.
10:10 Speaker 04 Flip him and read, what do you got?
10:12 David Imel? I originally put made it up. I changed it to Gemini, because I think if I put Gemini over and over and over again, eventually I'll get it right.
10:20 Andrew Manganelli? That was right.
10:21 Speaker 04 That was correct. It was Gemini.
10:22 David Imel? Yes!
10:23 Speaker 04 So they've got the point, because the other two said that I made it up. I did not.
10:27 Andrew Manganelli? I got in my head the, um, the Snazzy Lab thing you guys did, where Mike Hurley made the answer for every single first thing B and didn't realize it. And then I was like, he didn't realize it?
10:39 David Imel? I think he had to have realized it. How do you not realize that?
10:42 Speaker 04 He just had a child. Congrats to him.
10:44 Andrew Manganelli? Congrats.
10:45 Speaker 04 So he's running on limited sleep.
10:46 Andrew Manganelli? No, it was a great show, yeah.
10:48 David Imel? It was his decision to have a child.
10:50 Speaker 04 So, next question. What was the code name of the first Google Nexus device ever released? Answer, love. Did I make it up? Or did Google Gemini tell me that?
11:02 David Imel? Just love?
11:03 Speaker 04 Just love.
11:04 Speaker 02 So what are you working on in Mountain View?
11:07 David Imel? Love. We're trying to code love.
11:10 Speaker 04 Instead, they created Gemini.
11:12 David Imel? Wait, this is hard.
11:13 Speaker 04 The answer is just love. The answer is just love. Nothing else. Just straight up love. Just love.
11:19 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
11:19 Speaker 04 Yeah. All right. Flip him and read. What do we got?
11:22 David Imel? Made it up.
11:23 Speaker 04 Made it up. Finally, you all get it right. So you all get a point. I did make that up.
11:27 David Imel? AI is way too wordy. It would not just give a one word answer.
11:30 Speaker 04 That's fair. Okay. What was the battery life of the original iPhone? The answer that it gave me?
11:36 David Imel? All day.
11:36 Speaker 04 All day.
11:38 David Imel? That's what I was gonna say.
11:42 Speaker 04 Is that Google Gemini's answer? Or did I make that up?
11:45 Andrew Manganelli? Damn, the battery life hasn't changed at all since the first iPhone.
11:52 Speaker 02 The battery life has actually gotten way bigger. It's just that days have gotten way longer since 2007.
12:02 Speaker 04 Planet's spinning is slowing down. All right. Flip him and read. What do we got?
12:05 David Imel? You made it up.
12:07 Speaker 04 Made it up. Made it up. All right. Y'all get the point. I did make that up. It was actually eight hours of talk time, 24 hours of audio playback, seven hours of video playback, six hours of web browsing.
12:15 David Imel? We used to be a country.
12:16 Speaker 04 Used to. Next question. What does the WH stand for in the WH1000XM4 headphone name? Answer. Wireless headband.
12:31 Speaker 04 Is that from Google Gemini? Or did I make that up?
12:43 Andrew Manganelli? I don't know if I've ever actually.
12:45 David Imel? I think I know what it is actually. I know what it stands for, I think.
12:50 David Imel? There'd be a separate good trivia question, to be honest.
12:52 Speaker 04 Yeah, actually. Yeah. Product names.
12:56 David Imel? Made it up.
12:57 Speaker 04 I'll say I made it up. Alice? Yeah.
13:02 Speaker 02 Sorry, I was thinking about lights.
13:03 Speaker 04 Oh.
13:04 Speaker 02 What sound did I hear?
13:07 Speaker 02 It's a lot going on.
13:07 Speaker 04 So Gemini, isn't it wearable headphone?
13:09 David Imel? Wireless headphone?
13:10 Speaker 04 I don't know. This is just what Gemini told me. I didn't fact check it.
13:14 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, what? It's what? Wireless headphone?
13:17 Speaker 04 Google Gemini told me a wireless headband. Headband.
13:20 Andrew Manganelli? I think that actually makes sense because it does differentiate it from WF.
13:24 Speaker 04 Oh, and what does WF stand for? WF.
13:26 David Imel? Wireless.
13:27 Speaker 04 Wireless phone with an F.
13:28 Andrew Manganelli? Free.
13:30 David Imel? Or it means redefining everything digitally.
13:33 Andrew Manganelli? Nice.
13:34 David Imel? According to the founder who thinks it might, it might be that. I don't know.
13:38 Speaker 04 Nice. All right. Well, I'm handing it off now to Ellis for his section.
13:43 Speaker 02 Guys, this is going to be another whiteboard round, so keep those things right in front of you. All right, so as we all know, one of the biggest smash hits in waveform trivia extravaganza history was our startup names episode. And unfortunately, or segment or whatever, we've used them all. We can't, we can't do it anymore. And
14:06 Speaker 04 GB.
14:06 Speaker 02 modern startups have ditched the 2010s stupid naming schemes. They now all spell their names like normal people, which is so
14:14 Andrew Manganelli? Just in all lowercase.
14:15 David Imel? With AI at the end.
14:17 Speaker 02 Yeah, exactly.
14:18 Andrew Manganelli? Dot IO.
14:19 Speaker 02 But
14:19 Speaker 04 Dot IO.
14:20 Speaker 02 I have, as I browse through lists of tech companies and, you know, I'm using tech very broadly here, you know, because most companies are tech companies now. But as I go through these lists, I've realized most of the names they use are completely meaningless and nonsense whatsoever. Specifically, the ones in fintech or web three or crypto or payment services.
14:42 David Imel? Yeah, because the service is meaningless as well.
14:45 Speaker 02 You know, I couldn't have said it any better yourself. So for this segment, I'm going to read you between three to four fintech, crypto, web three, financial services. You get the idea.
14:55 Speaker 04 Cool.
14:57 Speaker 02 One of the companies in the category is not a fintech company. And you guys have to tell me which one out of each list is not fintech, crypto, web three, blockchain, et cetera.
15:10 Andrew Manganelli? Are they a tech company?
15:12 Speaker 02 Everything's a tech company. I don't care. Can we do a score update, too? Yes, Alex.
15:17 Speaker 05 Currently, Marquez scored three points in round one to bring his total up to 37 points. David scored four points in round one, bringing his total up to 41 points. Andrew scored two points in round one, bringing his total to 26 points.
15:36 Speaker 02 The rich get richer. And this is exciting because David, correct me if I'm wrong, you have never won one of these. That's correct. You are on track. Marquez has won two and Andrew's won one. Yeah, so this is, this is exciting.
15:48 Andrew Manganelli? If you don't, it's all his fault for bringing it.
15:50 Speaker 02 Well, David, you do have the most experience in the room working for tech companies, so maybe. Yep, but I don't know.
15:58 Andrew Manganelli? Not fintech, crypto, web three.
16:00 Speaker 02 Well, let's kick it off. This first company, these, all three of these, except for one, are crypto companies. Crypto companies. Are you ready, guys? Okay.
16:09 Andrew Manganelli? Crypto.
16:11 Speaker 02 Block, Blockworks, BlockFi, and Superblocks. So is it A, B, C, D? Just write which one of those you think is not a fintech company. I did not get the letters.
16:28 Andrew Manganelli? If we spell it wrong, is that fine?
16:29 Speaker 02 These are all spelled exactly the way you would expect them to. Block, Blockworks, BlockFi, and Superblocks. All right, who would like to read their answers first? Literally all put Blockworks. You all put Blockworks and you're all wrong. The answer was Superblocks, which brands itself as the AWS of internal tooling, which, if I was on a first date and someone was like, I work at the AWS of internal tooling, I'd be like. You'd be like, let's get married. Yeah, right, right. Yep. Denim, silk, quilt, and fabric.
17:08 Andrew Manganelli? Are these all blockchain?
17:09 Speaker 02 These are all fintech companies.
17:12 Andrew Manganelli? Can you say them again?
17:13 Speaker 02 Denim, silk, quilt, and fabric.
17:21 Speaker 02 This is like connections.
17:25 Speaker 04 Wait.
17:25 Speaker 02 Also, if anyone in our audience works at one of these companies and it feels like I mischaracterized the industry that your company is in, don't tell me.
17:37 Speaker 04 We don't care.
17:38 Speaker 02 I don't care. You could literally just pick a random word, huh? Yeah, yeah, and then get VC money. But guys, what'd you put for that one? You all put... Different stuff. Oh, oh, we'll read your answers. Uh, I put silk. And that is correct, David. One point for David Amell. Andrew, what did you put? Denim, unfortunately, is fintech. And Marquez? I wrote fabric. Also fintech, I'm pretty sure. Silk is actually a cloud soft... Dude, all of these companies... We all knew Quilt. I knew Silk was a company. I've used Quilt. What does Quilt do? Quilt is like a payment processing thing. Okay, so they are fintech.
18:14 Andrew Manganelli? There's also one called Plaid.
18:16 Speaker 02 Oh, that's what I was thinking of. That would've been good in this one. Sorry, that's what I was thinking of, not Quilt. So I don't know what Quilt does.
18:23 Speaker 02 All right, guys, are you ready for the next one? Why am I asking you? I don't care.
18:28 Speaker 02 First company. Here we go. Did you give me my point? Yes. Okay, cool. We have Tabula. All right. Kubra. Kubra, but without the U. Separate company. K-B-R-A. And Move. M-O-O-V. That's right. Tabula, Kubra, Kubra, and Move.
18:50 Speaker 04 Also, to clarify, because Rufus was a little confused earlier when we tested this, these are all real companies. Ellis did not make any of these up.
18:58 Speaker 02 Just... Wait, what? I found all of these companies in the Built in New York website, so ostensibly, all of these companies are actively hiring New Yorkers, too. Wow. These aren't even like Bay Area? Every company's a Bay Area company. Just like every company.
19:13 Andrew Manganelli? Maybe the Bay Area's the friends we meet along the way.
19:15 Speaker 02 Yeah, maybe. You know what? Flip the boards. You're right. All right.
19:21 Andrew Manganelli? Oh.
19:22 Speaker 02 Who would like to read their answers?
19:23 David Imel? Uh, Andrew and I both put Kubra without the U.
19:26 Speaker 02 That is incorrect. That is a company that helps credit reporting agencies restore their users' trust in them. I don't know.
19:35 David Imel? Okay, that's also what Mark has put. I wrote Kubra with the U or whatever.
19:40 Speaker 02 And that is correct. But Kubra with the E. Oh, wait.
19:43 David Imel? Kubra with the whatevers.
19:45 Speaker 02 No, I was wrong. I'm wrong. I had it written. I had it written down wrong. Kubra with the U does AI, e-commerce, and IT payment stuff. Uh, Tabula is an ad tech and digital media company. I'm sorry.
19:56 David Imel? What is the question again?
19:57 Speaker 02 Which one of these is not fintech? Two of these companies did have the same name.
20:00 David Imel? Oh, right.
20:01 Speaker 02 Just spelled.
20:01 David Imel? Now I remember Tabula.
20:03 Speaker 02 Tabula!
20:04 David Imel? That sounds like a restaurant.
20:06 Speaker 02 Now it's like, oh, when you gotta check out and you gotta get to your tabulator. I don't know, dude.
20:10 Andrew Manganelli? I'm pretty sure it's the like, uh, like in an article when it does the fake ads at the bottom that seem like more articles on the, yeah, yeah, is that brings you to different websites, but looks like fintech, like other articles.
20:22 David Imel? Which is not fintech.
20:24 Speaker 02 All right, I'll be real. I don't want to think about fintech anymore, so we're just gonna do one more of these, take it to ad break. How does that sound, fellas?
20:29 David Imel? Sure. Sounds good.
20:30 Speaker 02 All right, guys, this last one. We have four companies. Three of them are in fintech slash ad tech. I don't know, bro. This is so... Uh, actually, no, sorry. I'm wrong.
20:43 David Imel? Hmm?
20:43 Speaker 02 This last one is not fintech.
20:45 David Imel? Hmm.
20:45 Speaker 02 Three of these companies are in ad tech.
20:49 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
20:49 Speaker 02 Cause everything's a tech company.
20:52 Speaker 02 One of them is not. Let's go. The companies are Zero, Fifty-Five, Forty-Two, and Gum Gum.
21:07 Speaker 02 That is Zero, Fifty-Five, Forty-Two, and Gum Gum.
21:16 Speaker 02 I hate this.
21:20 Speaker 02 I didn't know I was gonna be tortured today. Really? Just Trudy Extravaganza Day? You didn't know you were gonna be tortured?
21:27 Speaker 02 Oh, this is the funniest edit of your voice I've ever heard. Let's read those answers, boys. I said zero. Zero is correct. Zero is an AI-powered email client that manages your inbox.
21:40 Andrew Manganelli? That's actually a good name.
21:42 Speaker 02 Oh, right, yeah, like Zero Inbox. I thought about putting zero. You guys put... Fifty-five. And...
21:49 Andrew Manganelli? Forty-two.
21:50 Speaker 02 Both of which are wrong answers.
21:51 Andrew Manganelli? For some reason, I really thought forty-two was a, like, IT company.
21:55 Speaker 02 Forty-two is analytics stack for retailers and brands. What does fifty-five do? Fifty-five, I just wrote ad tech, because I was so sick of writing this category. Tacos. Again, if you... Yeah, anyway, you know, tacos, hot dogs, guys, we're gonna be right back after this break. We'll come back with a score update, and, in my opinion, one of the best segments we've ever done. Very nice tee-up to maintain viewership. We'll be right back.
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24:35 Speaker 04 Welcome back to the Trivia Extravaganza. We are going to start this section off by updating the score. Where are we at, Alex?
24:44 Speaker 05 Frankly, a pathetic round two. Oh. Aha, alright. Frankly, round two was pathetic.
24:53 Speaker 05 Two total points scored.
24:55 Speaker 04 Wow, really?
24:56 Speaker 05 Mark has now sits at 38 points after two rounds. David sits at 42 points after two rounds. Andrew's still holding steady at 26 points after two rounds.
25:08 Speaker 04 Okay.
25:09 Andrew Manganelli? Are we upping the ante on these points through rounds?
25:13 Speaker 04 Sure.
25:13 Andrew Manganelli? No, it's just one?
25:14 Speaker 04 If you guys want us to go extra hard and make it like 10-point questions, we could do that. Was that so the?
25:22 Speaker 01 I would like to hear the category name before.
25:24 Speaker 04 No, no, no, you have to decide before.
25:26 Speaker 01 Because these first two, I don't think would be, it wouldn't make much sense for those to be 10-pointers, but maybe.
25:32 Speaker 04 You would've got 20 points.
25:34 Speaker 01 Yeah, but I'm in the lead.
25:37 Speaker 01 So I think, yeah.
25:39 Andrew Manganelli? I think we need to give. You should throw a random one out there for like 10 points.
25:42 Speaker 04 Yeah. What was David's last job?
25:46 Speaker 02 Guys, this next segment I'm really, really stoked on. This one's gonna be really, really, really funny, I hope. Or I'm overselling it and it's just gonna be dead quiet as we do this. Disneyland. This is not a buzzer, nor is it a whiteboard round. This is a round robin round. Using a shall be unnamed AI tool that has a particularly sort of Dutch sounding name. Gemini. Yes, the famous Dutch name.
26:14 Andrew Manganelli? ChatGPT.
26:17 Speaker 02 Guys, I wrote a program.
26:21 Speaker 02 That scraped the Y Combinator website. Oh, no. And on, from that scrape, I took the last three cohorts of Y Combinator companies, entries, participants, I don't know what you call them, also don't care. Class. And I took their bylines, this quick one-sentence description of these companies, and I built a list of the top 20 most-used words. Oh. In the past three cohorts of Y Combinator companies. Where you're going to go around robin, around the room, over and over and over again. And you guys have to tell me what these words are. Okay. They will, as of right now, I was thinking it would be one point for word irregardless of rank.
27:07 Speaker 02 But I've heard some bemoaning from the peanut gallery.
27:10 Andrew Manganelli? One to 20?
27:11 Speaker 02 Yeah.
27:11 Andrew Manganelli? It should be, that's how they should be ranked.
27:13 Speaker 02 So you think, okay, but the. 20 points for the top one? AI?
27:16 Andrew Manganelli? Only one time that gets the top one.
27:18 Speaker 02 Yeah, AI.
27:20 Andrew Manganelli? No, do it flip.
27:21 Speaker 02 Yeah, I think, I think the 20th word should be 20 points and the number one.
27:25 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, I like that too.
27:27 Speaker 02 Yeah.
27:28 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
27:28 Speaker 02 All right, are you scorer? Are you able to handle this?
27:31 Andrew Manganelli? 20th one.
27:33 Speaker 02 Great. Can, can I trust you to cross out words that we've already gotten?
27:36 Andrew Manganelli? Absolutely not.
27:37 Speaker 02 All right, guys.
27:38 Andrew Manganelli? I think we should do snake draft, by the way.
27:40 Speaker 02 Okay, we're doing snake draft then, and I'm thinking of a number between one and 10. Seven.
27:49 Speaker 02 Eight. Mm hmm. Six. Marquez has it. He always does. Shocker.
27:54 Speaker 01 So does that mean I go first?
27:56 Speaker 02 It does mean that you go first.
27:57 Speaker 01 I would like to choose going second.
27:59 Speaker 02 Wait, no, you go first. You go first. I'm not, this is, we've already spent too much time drafting this snake. It's too hard. Marquez, may I remind you, the number one word on this list used 8.5. Sorry, I guess, let me give a little bit more explanation. So just remember, the 20th most used word, the least frequently used word on my list is worth the most points.
28:19 Speaker 01 Wow.
28:20 Speaker 02 Right. I filtered out all the like stupid words. So there's no, there's no the, yeah, there's no and, there's no, uh, these are all either nouns or verbs or whatever.
28:30 Speaker 01 And one more time, give me the context. It's the words in the bios of the top what?
28:35 Speaker 02 Bylines. So the, the one sentence description of the last three cohorts of Y Combinator companies.
28:41 Speaker 01 So the descriptions of the companies?
28:43 Speaker 02 Yeah. So this is spring 2025, fall 2025, and winter 2024.
28:49 Speaker 01 And another nitpicky question, are different conjugations of the same word all the same word?
28:53 Speaker 02 That is an excellent question, and I have grouped together different conjugations of the word. Or I've also grouped together plurals.
29:01 Speaker 01 Are acronyms allowed?
29:03 Speaker 02 There are no acronyms on this list.
29:06 Speaker 01 Good to know. So with my first pick, I am picking build.
29:10 Speaker 02 Excellent choice, Marquez. Build is the third most used word.
29:17 Speaker 01 Wow.
29:17 Speaker 02 Making up 1.3% of all words used in Y Combinator descriptions in the last three cohorts, used 32 times.
29:27 Speaker 02 If you include building and builder.
29:28 Speaker 01 You're saying there's no acronyms in this?
29:30 Speaker 02 There are no acronyms that I see on my list.
29:33 Speaker 01 So the very obvious?
29:34 Speaker 02 What number?
29:35 Speaker 01 Acronym?
29:36 Speaker 02 Oh.
29:36 Speaker 01 AI?
29:36 Speaker 02 Yeah, wait, sorry.
29:37 Speaker 01 Okay, then I'm gonna say AI.
29:39 Speaker 02 Yeah, that is, wow, Jesus. All right, well, you just chose the number one word.
29:43 Speaker 01 I know, I just wanna make sure I get a point.
29:44 Speaker 02 I thought there's no acronyms. Yeah, I forgot that AI was an acronym.
29:47 Speaker 01 But that's number, but number one is worth less points.
29:50 Speaker 02 You got better. Yeah, you did better.
29:51 Speaker 01 Number one's worth less points.
29:52 Speaker 02 Number one is worth the least amount of points. I feel really stupid for getting that AI is an acronym. I just think of it as a self-contained turd of [BLEEP] at this point.
30:01 Speaker 01 Okay.
30:01 Speaker 02 I forgot it, cuz it's, anyway. Uh, yes, AI, guys, I just wanna lay this on you guys. AI makes up 8.5% of all words used to describe companies. These percentages, by the way, guys, I calculated before removing filler words.
30:18 Speaker 02 Meaning that all words that Y Combinator companies use, 8% of them.
30:24 David Imel? Including of and and.
30:25 Speaker 02 Yes, including of and a and the. AI is used 8.5% of the time.
30:31 David Imel? Insane.
30:32 Speaker 02 David.
30:33 David Imel? Okay, scalable slash scale.
30:36 Speaker 02 Scale is not.
30:39 David Imel? Scalable is not on there.
30:40 Speaker 02 I'm so sorry. Nope, not anymore. But you get to go again.
30:45 David Imel? What about democratize?
30:47 Speaker 02 Uh, that one is what?
30:49 David Imel? Dude, I was thinking like, we are building this to democratize this.
30:55 Speaker 02 You gotta, you gotta think stupider.
30:58 David Imel? Really?
30:59 Speaker 02 Yeah, way stupider. Marquez put build.
31:04 Speaker 02 Three points. Yep. Uh, Andrew, that takes us back.
31:07 David Imel? What about, oh.
31:08 Speaker 02 To you.
31:08 David Imel? Okay.
31:09 Andrew Manganelli? I can't tell if this is a stupid one or not. Is 10x a word?
31:17 David Imel? Not an acronym, 100x.
31:19 Speaker 02 100gex. Uh, Marquez, back to you.
31:22 David Imel? Okay, let's see. Trying to go for high points here. So the description of the company.
31:28 David Imel? I'm gonna use the word help.
31:30 Speaker 02 Help.
31:31 Andrew Manganelli? I guess it's way better.
31:32 Speaker 02 Yep, that is worth 18 points. It was used nine times.
31:38 David Imel? So I'm behind now?
31:39 Speaker 02 Uh, yes, by quite a lot.
31:40 David Imel? Oh, my God. And the second.
31:44 Speaker 02 David, you gotta, you gotta start getting stupid, man.
31:46 David Imel? Is it, does snake mean I go again?
31:48 Speaker 02 It does mean you go again.
31:49 David Imel? Okay. For my second pick. Tire season out the window.
31:57 David Imel? Swear to God. Does the word bring qualify?
32:00 Speaker 02 Uh. I don't see it on my list. I can't remember. That's one I scratched. I don't think I would have scratched bring, uh, so it is not on the list.
32:08 David Imel? You know, every time, um, I run into someone who watches the show in the real world, they say, man, you're really killing it at trivia. There's tons of time.
32:17 Speaker 02 You are. David, David, there is, there are.
32:20 David Imel? There's so many points on the board.
32:21 Speaker 02 If you nail your next two guesses, you could earn 39 points before it gets back to Andrew.
32:27 David Imel? All right.
32:27 Speaker 02 Yeah, right.
32:28 Andrew Manganelli? Deliver.
32:30 Speaker 02 I do not see deliver on my list. I'm so sorry.
32:33 Andrew Manganelli? 18% of my diage.
32:34 David Imel? Basically bring.
32:34 Speaker 02 I hit the wrong button. I'm really sorry, Andrew.
32:39 Speaker 02 I was not trying to add insult to injury there, I swear. David? What about we?
32:45 Andrew Manganelli? That's like a filler word.
32:46 Speaker 02 I'm gonna let you guess again. Oh, okay. I'm unusually benevolent today. Platforms. Ooh, platform is the sixth most used word, giving you six points. It was used 17 times. David, gotta get stupider, man. If you want these high point ones. Uh, um. What's, just hit your head on the desk a few times and think about tech.
33:10 Speaker 02 Code. Code is the 17, number 17, worth 17 points, David.
33:16 Andrew Manganelli? We're back, baby.
33:17 Speaker 02 It was used nine times. That was my next guess. Including, and I lumped in with that, code, coders, vibe code, and codebase. Nice. Way to go, David. We are so back. I knew you had the dumbness in you. Andrew, that means we're back to you. We're so back.
33:33 Andrew Manganelli? I don't think this is a filler word, but new.
33:35 Speaker 02 I do not see new on my list. I do not remember. You gotta think stupider, man.
33:40 Andrew Manganelli? New, it's new.
33:42 Speaker 02 Try again.
33:42 Andrew Manganelli? It's three letters.
33:43 Speaker 02 Try again.
33:46 Speaker 02 Okay.
33:47 Andrew Manganelli? It's because no one's making anything new in here.
33:48 Speaker 02 No, it's not that. It's that, when I say dumb, I don't mean like, low diction words.
33:53 Andrew Manganelli? I'm not saying it that either. It's just, I know Y Combinator was for new products.
33:57 Speaker 02 I have one. My next guess is suite. Like S U I T E. Like S U I T E. No, but you do have a second guess. Okay. I have a really good one.
34:06 David Imel? Let me write this down real quick.
34:07 Speaker 02 I think I have a good one.
34:09 Speaker 02 My next guess is productivity.
34:15 Speaker 02 So sorry. Damn, these companies are not good. So sorry.
34:19 Andrew Manganelli? Okay, I have one.
34:20 Speaker 02 Yes.
34:20 Andrew Manganelli? Together.
34:23 Speaker 02 Together was on my list, but it is not in the top 20. Okay, cloud. Shit.
34:30 Speaker 02 That's good, that's good. Cloud is not on my list. What? It's of the top 20, but this is what I'm talking about. You have to think, like, there's two words relating to AI still on this board.
34:41 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, it's giving hints.
34:42 Speaker 02 One of which is worth 19 points, and the other which is only worth 2 points. Learning? Unfortunately, you did not get any of them. Yeah. But you're getting closer.
34:50 Andrew Manganelli? All right, I have it. Model.
34:52 Speaker 02 Model is worth 19 points. Way to go. It was used nine times in the last three cohorts. Oh, man.
35:02 Speaker 02 Oh, I know one.
35:03 David Imel? And now it's my turn?
35:03 Speaker 02 And now it's your turn, Marquez.
35:05 David Imel? Service.
35:06 Speaker 02 Wow, I'm surprised that one's not there.
35:08 David Imel? What?
35:09 Speaker 02 It was used four times.
35:13 Andrew Manganelli? I feel like we're both thinking the same thing, but you think it would be very close to-
35:16 Speaker 02 Machine unfortunately is not on the list.
35:19 David Imel? Yeah, Jesus.
35:20 Speaker 02 Might have been worth inferring that from learning not being on the list, but hey, I don't tell you how to use your guesses.
35:26 David Imel? There's a lot of machines.
35:26 Andrew Manganelli? Alright, language.
35:28 David Imel? That's what I was gonna use.
35:29 Andrew Manganelli? I knew we were gonna-
35:30 David Imel? I knew it.
35:31 Speaker 02 I do not see-
35:32 David Imel? Oh, wow.
35:32 Andrew Manganelli? Well, so that's what's confu-
35:33 David Imel? Yeah.
35:34 Speaker 02 Yeah, so maybe I should have taken that back, Marquez. I humbly apologize. Uh, so one thing I was surprised by, and this is AI related, is how many companies used this word.
35:45 Speaker 02 Because I did not think of it as like a fresh wave of AI stuff that people were developing, but it makes sense. It's a mode.
35:55 David Imel? It's a mode. Autonomous?
35:57 Speaker 02 Is it? Wait, is it your turn to guess?
35:58 Andrew Manganelli? It is, yeah.
35:59 David Imel? Yeah.
35:59 Speaker 02 Oh, uh.
36:01 Andrew Manganelli? Really?
36:02 David Imel? Really?
36:03 Speaker 02 It's too smart.
36:06 David Imel? Um, computer. Wait, that's, no, I'm not gonna guess that. That's stupid.
36:12 Speaker 02 But there's, computer's not on there.
36:16 David Imel? Did we already guess?
36:17 Speaker 02 We got a-
36:17 David Imel? System?
36:19 Speaker 02 Did we guess?
36:20 Andrew Manganelli? Are you reading my [bleep] mind?
36:21 David Imel? No.
36:22 Andrew Manganelli? Your mind, yeah.
36:23 Speaker 02 It's system, your guess.
36:24 David Imel? Yeah, system.
36:24 Speaker 02 System is worth the most points on the board, David.
36:27 David Imel? Let's go!
36:30 Speaker 02 You just got the 20 bomb.
36:32 David Imel? I swear to God, it was like a rich forehead. I said operating system's not on here? Let me just guess system, okay.
36:38 Speaker 02 Okay, why don't we go, everyone gets one more?
36:41 Andrew Manganelli? People.
36:42 David Imel? Who do you wanna buy your?
36:44 Speaker 02 Dude, I'm getting too hard.
36:46 David Imel? I have to go with operate?
36:49 Speaker 02 Hmm.
36:51 Speaker 04 You got one more.
36:53 David Imel? Streamline.
36:54 Speaker 02 Too smart.
36:55 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, that was a really good one.
36:56 David Imel? Oh my God.
36:57 Andrew Manganelli? Subscription.
36:59 David Imel? Oh my God.
37:02 Speaker 02 Fast.
37:03 David Imel? Oh.
37:03 Speaker 02 Get it out.
37:04 David Imel? Ooh, I got one, okay. Um.
37:07 Speaker 04 David's gonna steal it again.
37:10 David Imel? I swear to God, if I write this down right now-
37:12 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, man.
37:12 David Imel? Um, personal.
37:16 Speaker 02 So fun.
37:16 David Imel? And I get one more.
37:18 Speaker 02 You do get one more.
37:18 Andrew Manganelli? I almost said it.
37:22 David Imel? Uh, okay.
37:25 David Imel? Uh, yeah, this, this helps. Um.
37:33 Speaker 02 Database.
37:36 Speaker 02 I'll give it to you. I'll give it to you. Data was used 16 times, making up around half a percent of all words.
37:41 David Imel? No, but that shouldn't count. You have to say data. That's crazy.
37:46 Andrew Manganelli? Well.
37:48 Speaker 02 Seven points, David.
37:49 David Imel? I thought it was 16.
37:50 Andrew Manganelli? No.
37:51 Speaker 04 You used 16 times.
37:52 David Imel? Oh.
37:53 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, it's not in the 16?
37:54 David Imel? I think I got 16 points.
37:55 Speaker 02 Andrew.
37:56 Andrew Manganelli? App.
37:57 Speaker 04 It's 2010?
37:58 David Imel? App is an acronym.
37:59 Andrew Manganelli? There's not a single app.
38:01 David Imel? App stands for application.
38:03 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
38:03 Speaker 02 Marquez, I believe you had a word you were very excited about.
38:06 David Imel? Yeah.
38:06 Andrew Manganelli? Optimize.
38:08 Speaker 02 All right, care to try again?
38:11 David Imel? If you read my mind, I swear to God.
38:14 Andrew Manganelli? And then I had another.
38:15 Speaker 02 I guess I should consult a master list for more of these.
38:17 David Imel? Uh, and you said people already?
38:19 Andrew Manganelli? How have we gotten the four hardest ones?
38:22 David Imel? Did you say people already?
38:23 Andrew Manganelli? I said people.
38:24 Speaker 02 You did say people. There is a word that refers to groups of people that is on this list.
38:28 David Imel? I was gonna say masses, but I don't think that's it. I'll just say it. Masses. It's probably not that. Yep.
38:32 Andrew Manganelli? Okay. Internet.
38:35 David Imel? Customers.
38:38 Speaker 02 Wow, I've already given you a hint, David. I'm sorry. Um, there's a few still obvious ones that are here.
38:46 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, it wasn't that?
38:46 Speaker 02 No, it was not that.
38:47 Andrew Manganelli? Glad I didn't say it.
38:49 Speaker 02 You guys are gonna be so mad when you find out the rest of these.
38:52 Andrew Manganelli? We don't have the number two.
38:53 Speaker 02 We don't have number two.
38:54 David Imel? I got, I got a bunch.
38:56 Speaker 02 The number two is so obvious.
38:58 Andrew Manganelli? Electronic.
38:59 Speaker 02 Oh my God.
38:59 David Imel? I don't know.
39:00 Speaker 02 What would be right behind AI?
39:02 David Imel? Internet.
39:03 Speaker 02 No, Andrew already.
39:06 David Imel? Alright.
39:07 Speaker 02 What would be, what's right behind AI? What word almost always follows the word AI?
39:14 David Imel? I have one. Uh, service?
39:17 Speaker 02 Was service on here?
39:18 David Imel? No, I already asked service.
39:19 Speaker 02 No.
39:20 David Imel? Also.
39:21 Andrew Manganelli? Agent.
39:22 Speaker 02 Agent is correct. Used 68 times.
39:26 David Imel? That's two?
39:26 Speaker 02 Agent, yeah.
39:28 David Imel? My guess is crypto. Crypto.
39:31 Speaker 02 Crypto's out, bro. VCs are not interested.
39:33 David Imel? It ain't 2021 anymore, boys.
39:34 Speaker 02 But you do get one more guess.
39:38 Speaker 02 And it should end on David, so do you want to do?
39:40 David Imel? Should this be it?
39:41 Speaker 02 Do you want to end this or do one more time? I think one more. Okay.
39:46 David Imel? Blockchain.
39:48 Speaker 02 I just said crypto.
39:49 David Imel? Oh, sorry. Okay.
39:51 Speaker 02 No, no, you are. All right, Andrew.
39:57 Speaker 02 Andrew, this is your second to last guess. I know.
40:01 Speaker 07 No pressure.
40:02 David Imel? Love.
40:16 David Imel? This is a really good game.
40:17 Speaker 02 Interface. Interface is not on my list, unfortunately. Marquez.
40:27 David Imel? Financial?
40:28 Speaker 02 Financial is not on my list.
40:30 David Imel? Rapper.
40:31 Speaker 02 Rapper is not on my list. User. User is not on my list.
40:36 David Imel? Browser.
40:37 Speaker 02 Browser is not on my, uh, no, browser's not on my list.
40:41 David Imel? All right, we're done.
40:42 Speaker 02 Damn. Guys, excellent job. So some of the funny ones that you guys missed include powered slash power. Software, you guys did not guess. That one's pretty bad. Voice was the AI mode that was here way more than I thought it would.
40:57 David Imel? Yeah.
40:57 Speaker 02 Sales.
40:58 David Imel? Sale.
40:59 Speaker 02 Real was on here a lot.
41:00 David Imel? I was thinking B2B.
41:01 Speaker 02 B2B.
41:04 Speaker 02 The word for groups of people was team. Team was used 14 times. That's so obvious. Here's one that really threw me for the loop. The 12, the 12th word on my list used 12 times, coincidentally, was cursor.
41:21 David Imel? Oh, because things are being built on cursor?
41:23 Speaker 02 No, because so many companies just refer to themselves in their byline as the cursor of blank.
41:30 David Imel? Wow.
41:31 Speaker 02 Yes.
41:32 David Imel? Cursor is an AI coding app.
41:34 Speaker 02 Exactly.
41:35 David Imel? Yeah, it's like a dedicated environment.
41:38 Speaker 02 Do you want to just read the one?
41:39 David Imel? Coding.
41:39 Speaker 02 Want to just read the one through 20? Yeah, can you just read it in order? Number 20, system, used nine times. Models, 19, nine times. Yeah, so sorry, 20 through 17 are all tied. System, models, help, code.
41:53 David Imel? Help.
41:54 Speaker 02 Help, helping, helpers.
41:55 David Imel? Wow.
41:56 Speaker 02 Et cetera.
41:56 David Imel? Damn.
41:57 Speaker 02 Uh, 16, 10 times. Healthcare, 15.
41:59 David Imel? Wow.
42:00 Speaker 02 Sales. 14 real, 13 native. What is real? REAL. Oh, REAL. Like, real experiences? Native is good. Was experiences one? Experiences is not on here. No. Then we have cursor, team, source, voice, open, seven is data, six is platform, five is software, four is powered, three is build, two is agent, and number one. AI. Making up 8.5%.
42:29 Andrew Manganelli? We didn't say software? The funny thing is, is you said, "Think of as dumb as possible", and I thought button, which is not that far away from power.
42:39 Speaker 02 Guys, before we get into our next segment, we need to do a score update because points were flying around that round. I might be cooked now.
42:48 Andrew Manganelli? No, I think David, like, really took the lead on that one.
42:51 Speaker 02 Yeah, not really, but kind of.
42:53 Speaker 05 So contrary to round two, where only two points were scored in the whole round, we now have seismic updates to the score.
43:03 Speaker 05 Andrew began last round with 26 points, scored 22 more points.
43:09 Speaker 02 Wow, well done.
43:10 Speaker 05 Which brought him up to 48 points total.
43:14 Andrew Manganelli? Nice.
43:14 Speaker 02 Dang.
43:14 Speaker 05 Marquez began last round with 38 points, scored 21 points to bring him to 59 total after three rounds. David had 42 after round two, scored a whopping 50 points in round three.
43:36 Andrew Manganelli? Are you serious?
43:37 Speaker 05 Yes. Giving David now a grand total of 92 after three rounds.
43:44 Speaker 02 We already catched.
43:45 Speaker 05 You wanted to go big, and you went big.
43:48 Speaker 02 We might have messed this up.
43:51 Speaker 02 As long as the values of upcoming questions are still high enough to mean anyone can win. This next section, everything is 10 pointers. That's fair. If you sweep me by the end of this, I'm gonna be so sad.
44:05 Speaker 02 What? Screw it, no rules, 10 points per question. Oh my god. Guys, this next one is called "The Chicken of the Egg", we're gonna read you two tech products. The chicken of the egg? This is the chicken of the egg. Okay. This is.
44:15 David Imel? I kind of like the chicken in the sea, right?
44:16 Speaker 02 I'm no, I'm referring to, what's the?
44:20 David Imel? Oh, yeah.
44:20 Speaker 02 DJ Khaled, Rick Ross. The almond of the coconut or whatever he says. No, no, no, no, no. The mathematician who is like- The almond of the peanut. Who uses eggs as the, the mathematician uses eggs to explain dimensions. You know what I'm talking about?
44:32 Speaker 01 That's not what we're thinking about at all.
44:35 Speaker 02 No, it's like-
44:36 Andrew Manganelli? It's on the tip of all of our tongues.
44:38 Speaker 02 It's like if you, who said that? It's the guy who was like, if you have a, if you have a 2D egg and you're a 3D being, you can see the, the 2D chicken floating inside the egg because a 3D being can see all sides of a 2D object. Is there a 3D chicken inside the 2D egg? If there's a, no, there's a 2D chicken inside the 2D egg. But if there's a 3D egg with a 3D chicken inside, a 4D being would be able to see the, anyway. Guys, chicken or? Chicken. The egg. Or the egg.
45:05 Speaker 04 What is a four dimensional being?
45:08 Andrew Manganelli? We don't know.
45:08 Speaker 02 Do I need to explain it? It's a being that exists in four dimensions. The fourth dimension is time.
45:13 David Imel? Oh, that answers that. Yeah.
45:16 Speaker 02 It's, no, it's theoretical. It's theoretical. It's if there was a fourth axis for us to exist on.
45:22 Speaker 04 There is. You just can't move around in it.
45:23 Speaker 02 Right? Uh, that's one, it, okay, everyone should- Don't I exist in- Guys, what came first? The fax machine? Or the blender?
45:37 Speaker 01 My markers are running out of ink.
45:40 Speaker 01 It's not great. You guys have extra markers or no? I do not. Oh, that's a Sharpie. I can't use that. All right, whatever. Blender, the app is like, not that old, right? It's fairly old. I use it in college.
45:52 Speaker 02 No, no, no, I'm talking about, I'm talking about the electric blender.
45:56 Speaker 01 I used it in college and I'm really old, so it's pretty old.
45:59 Andrew Manganelli? Don't forget, 10 points on the line.
46:01 Speaker 01 10?
46:02 Speaker 04 Per question.
46:05 Speaker 02 All right. What did you guys put?
46:07 Speaker 01 Points available.
46:08 Speaker 02 Mark has, and I put blender, and Andrew put fax. The fax machine is not just older than the blender, it is way older than the blender. The fax machine is so old that it predates the telephone. That's right. They were sending photographs over telegraph wires. Wait, telegraph? Yeah.
46:27 Speaker 02 But telegraph and fax machines are different. No, the wires that were sending Morse code messages were also sending photographs over them in the 1860s. I'm gonna have to fax check that. Please do. Guys, number two, the QWERTY keyboard layout or the modern paperclip?
46:45 Speaker 02 The mod- why is that a specific? Because it turns out a lot of people tried to make paperclips and they were not very good. And then we got this one and everyone was like, alright, we're done with this. We figured it out. This is what's newer or what's older? What's older? Older? What is older? Which is the egg? Wait, no, disregard that. That's the whole question.
47:07 Speaker 02 The whole question is which is older?
47:08 Andrew Manganelli? Is it 2D or 3D?
47:10 Speaker 02 Faksimally. I have no clue when paperclips came around, so. What do we got? I'm going QWERTY. QWERTY?
47:17 Andrew Manganelli? I'm also going QWERTY.
47:18 Speaker 02 Is correct. That is 10 points. I thought that was newer. Uh, no.
47:22 Andrew Manganelli? It's really old.
47:22 Speaker 02 It's from 1878. I thought it was like a new Japanese guy that did it. No.
47:27 Andrew Manganelli? No, actually, there's rumors that it's Remington that did it.
47:30 Speaker 02 Rumor. I, so I am pulling the first Remington typewriter from 1878 that had it. However, there were two or three typewriters prior to that through the 1870s, which had things that resembled the QWERTY and C layout. However, they were not exact, so I'm counting.
47:44 Andrew Manganelli? They're a studio short on this.
47:45 Speaker 02 1878. Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. Wow. Alright, guys, this next one, I want to try to go as a lightning round. So get ready to write these really fast. Ready? Okay. Fubo or Tubi?
48:00 Speaker 02 What do we got?
48:03 Speaker 02 Wow, I'm not expected to know these, right?
48:04 Andrew Manganelli? I said Fubo.
48:05 Speaker 02 You said Fubo? Same. I said Tubi. Tubi is correct. Way to go, David. Alright, follow up, Tubi or Roku?
48:17 Andrew Manganelli? I keep forgetting Roku fits in this consonant vowel, consonant vowel.
48:21 Speaker 02 It better be what I think it is. And the answer is? Please, Roku. Nope, the answer is still Tubi. Are you kidding me? Roku's so OG. Tubi is from 2014, Roku's from 2017, according to my notes. Wait, what? 2017? Tubi? No, Roku was around when I was in college.
48:38 Andrew Manganelli? I think Roku's been around for a bit.
48:39 Speaker 02 Two thousand two, so Roku is. Okay.
48:41 Speaker 01 Yeah.
48:42 Andrew Manganelli? But it doesn't change anything because we all got the point.
48:44 Speaker 01 Yeah, we'll give us all points.
48:46 David Imel? Great, ten points for all of us. I was like, no way.
48:48 Speaker 02 Yep, now I see where I got it wrong. In two thousand fourteen, Roku released their first TVs with Roku's built-in.
48:53 Andrew Manganelli? But they were a box beforehand.
48:54 Speaker 02 Yeah. Continuing with the trend.
48:56 David Imel? Okay.
48:57 Speaker 02 Roku or Mubi?
49:01 Andrew Manganelli? Do we have to spell it right?
49:03 Speaker 02 I don't care.
49:05 Speaker 02 All right, what do we got?
49:07 Speaker 01 I wrote Mubi.
49:08 Speaker 02 Roku is correct. Marquez and Andrew, did you get that one right?
49:12 Andrew Manganelli? No, I got it wrong.
49:12 Speaker 02 Just me. Ten points for Marquez. All right, one more, guys. I swear this is not annoying. Mubi or Pluto?
49:21 Speaker 01 Oh.
49:22 Speaker 02 No, that's right, five letters.
49:26 Speaker 02 Innovator. Disruptor. Hardly know. What do we got?
49:35 Andrew Manganelli? Ready?
49:36 Speaker 01 Mubi.
49:37 Andrew Manganelli? I wrote Mubi.
49:38 Speaker 02 Mubi is correct.
49:40 Speaker 01 Yes.
49:40 Speaker 02 Damn. Point. Oh, Marquez got that wrong. Damn.
49:43 David Imel? Got that wrong.
49:45 Andrew Manganelli? Isn't Pluto that like?
49:46 David Imel? Pluto TV.
49:47 Andrew Manganelli? I didn't watch TV channels.
49:48 David Imel? It's not fake. It's real. The whole category of TV.
49:51 Andrew Manganelli? Real.
49:51 David Imel? But I don't watch TV.
49:52 Speaker 02 It's legal. It plays ads. Stumble upon or Reddit? Which one came first?
49:57 David Imel? I know this.
49:59 Speaker 02 Chicken or the egg? What do you guys got?
50:00 Andrew Manganelli? Both put that?
50:02 Speaker 01 Stumble upon.
50:04 David Imel? Because stumble upon as well.
50:06 Andrew Manganelli? I put Reddit.
50:08 Speaker 02 So ten points each for David and Marquez because of stumble upon.
50:11 David Imel? I was using stumble upon when I was a freshman in high school, but I only started using Reddit when it came out when I was like a junior.
50:17 Speaker 02 Hmm. All right, Shazam or TiVo?
50:23 Speaker 01 TiVo?
50:24 Andrew Manganelli? Shazam?
50:24 Speaker 02 TiVo.
50:25 Speaker 01 Oh, Shazam or TiVo?
50:29 Speaker 02 Seeing the little TiVo guy when I was researching that just brought warm, warm feelings to my heart. I love that little dude.
50:36 David Imel? My friend's dad was like the regional manager of Best Buy and he had TiVo because he was rich. It was cool. I didn't have it, but it was cool. The controller was cool. I had the little guy on it.
50:46 Speaker 02 Now we just have YouTube TV.
50:47 David Imel? YouTube TiVo.
50:49 Speaker 02 Flip and Reed, what do we got?
50:50 David Imel? TiVo.
50:51 Andrew Manganelli? We all got TiVo?
50:52 Speaker 02 Correct.
50:53 David Imel? Hey.
50:53 Speaker 02 It was TiVo, 99, 2000.
50:55 David Imel? Wow.
50:56 Speaker 02 I learned this researching this question. Shazam actually launched as an SMS service.
51:01 Andrew Manganelli? Really?
51:01 Speaker 02 Yeah, where you would call the Shazam number, hold your phone up to a speaker and they'd send you a text message with what song is playing.
51:08 David Imel? Why didn't they just tell you on the other side?
51:10 Speaker 02 Because your phone would meet your ear. You'd be like...
51:12 David Imel? It's actually really impressive. It's like very innovative and interesting. You know Twitter was an SMS service.
51:18 Speaker 02 Guys, I have... Really?
51:20 David Imel? You could tweet with SMS, yeah. That's how it started.
51:22 Speaker 02 Yeah. Remember when Domino's?
51:24 David Imel? That's why it had 140 character limit. That's some trivia right there. SMS was 144 characters.
51:29 Speaker 02 Do you guys remember when Domino's had an SMS service?
51:32 David Imel? Never heard of it.
51:32 Speaker 02 No. Really? Andrew, even you?
51:35 Andrew Manganelli? I just called.
51:36 Speaker 02 There was a period of time where you could, in your Domino's account, register your phone number and like your favorite order. And if you texted, and your cutter card, and if you texted them the pizza emoji, it would automatically place the order for delivery to your house.
51:49 David Imel? Wait, bring this back, bro. We need this technology now.
51:52 Speaker 05 Also the basis of the We app.
51:54 Speaker 02 The We app?
51:56 Speaker 05 The We Domino's app.
51:58 David Imel? Oh, yeah.
51:59 Speaker 02 I didn't know this.
52:00 David Imel? There is a Domino's app on the We.
52:01 Speaker 02 There was a Domino's, it's like a channel, like the Domino's channel?
52:04 David Imel? Yeah. Yeah.
52:05 Speaker 02 All right, we gotta...
52:06 David Imel? It's dope.
52:07 Speaker 02 Wow. Okay, guys. Guys, this one is not exactly tech, but it's sort of tech. And this one I just find hilarious. The Super Nintendo Entertainment System, the SNES.
52:17 David Imel? SNES.
52:18 Speaker 02 The SNES. Or... Chabata bread.
52:26 Speaker 02 Okay. I'm looking for the older one.
52:31 David Imel? They do love Chabata in SF. I wonder if a tech company invented Chabata.
52:37 Andrew Manganelli? That was actually the ninth word in the Y combinator.
52:43 David Imel? AI Chabata platform. Chabata bread is a type of bread? Yeah.
52:49 Speaker 02 What? You had Chabata? It's the Italian answer to the baguette.
52:53 David Imel? Newer, right? Newer?
52:54 Speaker 02 Uh, we're looking for older. No, I am looking for...
52:57 Andrew Manganelli? Older.
52:58 Speaker 02 Yeah, older.
52:58 David Imel? Oh, older. Yes. SNES.
53:00 Speaker 02 Uh, no, Chabata is older than the SNES, but only by eight years.
53:04 David Imel? Oh, really?
53:05 Speaker 02 1982, yeah. Think about that. As children, none of our parents had Chabata.
53:11 David Imel? They probably still aren't.
53:12 Speaker 01 I might not have had Chabata either.
53:14 Andrew Manganelli? That word's too hard.
53:15 David Imel? Chabata me crazy.
53:18 Speaker 02 All right, let's get a quick update on the score and then take it to a one more break.
53:23 Speaker 05 Our scoring update, after four rounds, it looks way more impressive. And yet, it's the same situation, because you all scored 50 points in that last round.
53:35 Speaker 02 Okay.
53:35 Speaker 05 So Marquez now sits at 109. Andrew now sits at 98.
53:41 David Imel? Wow.
53:41 Speaker 05 And David is sitting pretty at 142 points.
53:45 Speaker 01 Jesus.
53:46 Andrew Manganelli? Wow. Damn. And the next round, everything's worth 100.
53:53 Speaker 01 I mean, we're all 50 points apart, so reasonably if everything's 10 points again, we could still win.
53:59 David Imel? Yeah, let's make it everything's one point.
54:02 Speaker 01 But there's a 1,000 questions.
54:06 Speaker 01 Okay.
54:07 David Imel? What is David's middle name?
54:09 Speaker 01 All right, well, we got one more category after the break. It's one with the buzzers and one audio round, so stay tuned. Anyone could still win. We'll be right back.
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56:40 Speaker 02 Guys, welcome back. We have two more things. We have got a little funky little thing that we've never actually done before. This is going to be very new for us. We'll see if it's actually fun or not, and then we're going to be doing our, you know, world famous.
56:56 Speaker 02 Audio round. Audio round. So guys, Adam came up with a really interesting idea for a category, which was we're going to write descriptions of famous apps and their icons, just their icons, famous apps icons, the icons of famous apps. Descriptions.
57:10 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
57:11 Speaker 02 And then have you guess what they were based on those. But then we thought, wait, no, that's no fun. It is fun, but we could make it more fun by having. Insert AI assistant write the descriptions for us.
57:24 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
57:24 Speaker 02 And then we realized we could have even more fun. By visualizing it? By asking them to do it as specific characters. What? Like Homer Simpson? Uh, not that specific. Oh. As general characters. Like Charmander? So let's, let's do this first one. This first app's description is going to be read as a pirate.
57:45 Andrew Manganelli? How are we answering these?
57:46 Speaker 02 You have to tell me what the app is.
57:48 Andrew Manganelli? On the, but, on the whiteboard?
57:50 Speaker 02 Yeah, with your mind.
57:53 Andrew Manganelli? Could've just yelled it out.
57:54 Speaker 02 Duh.
57:55 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
57:56 Speaker 02 How are you feeling? Uh. I really hope this is funny. So we're getting descriptions of? Of apps icons. You're getting descriptions of icons and you have to tell me the app, but each description is not only generated by an AI. Uh, and I tried to clean it up as best I could to just remove like wrong stuff or like stuff that didn't make sense, but it still is pretty AIE. Because this has been a weird one. This is now our 20 points. This will be the first extract we've ever ended where we might have people with more than 200 points. Which I'm just so excited for.
58:27 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
58:28 Speaker 02 Um, all right. Here is my impression of a pirate.
58:34 Speaker 02 Ahoy there mateys. I be seeing a symbol that looks like a colorful hashtag or crosshatch pattern. Tilted at a jaunty angle like a ship's wheel catching the wind. Tis painted in four bold colors.
58:48 Andrew Manganelli? I wish this was.
58:49 Speaker 02 Ocean blue, sunset red, doubloon yellow and green.
58:57 Speaker 02 All crossing each other in a gap between the spaces in a ship's, like the spaces in a ship's riggin. I would make a fine flag for gathering the crew together.
59:07 Andrew Manganelli? This is that lost pirate episode everyone's been asking for.
59:10 Speaker 02 I was so mad because when I had to make the pirate soundscape, I was like, I've done this so many times for that pirate episode and it was on an old computer. So I couldn't like, just anyway, I'm complaining. What do you guys have?
59:24 Speaker 02 Did you all put slack?
59:25 Speaker 01 Yeah, I put slack.
59:26 Speaker 02 Did you hear the bubbles? I put bubbles in there. That is... Correct.
59:32 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, I wish this was a buzzer.
59:34 Speaker 01 A colored hashtag. I was like, yep. Next one is a pinwheel.
59:36 Speaker 02 Oh, [bleep]. Everything's a pinwheel. Alright, guys.
59:40 Speaker 01 Next one's red, yellow, blue, and green.
59:42 Speaker 02 Guys, this next one, this next app, will be read in the voice of a robot.
59:49 Andrew Manganelli? Okay. Beep boop.
59:52 Andrew Manganelli? It did.
59:52 Speaker 02 Zero, zero, zero, one, zero. Chat GPT or anonymous AI did add a lot of beep boops in the robot one that I had to clean out.
1:00:01 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
1:00:02 Speaker 02 Alright, are you ready, guys?
1:00:03 Andrew Manganelli? Mm-hmm.
1:00:07 Speaker 10 Analyzing visual signal processing. I observe a circular green interface element colored in optimal hue 34C759 for maximum visibility. That's green.
1:00:27 Speaker 10 Sorry, this is so funny. Contain within this circular boundary is a white speech bubble icon designed to represent textual communication and protocols between humans. The geometric state follows standard conversation bubble parameters with a small triangular protrusion indicating message origin point. Beep boop.
1:00:51 Speaker 01 Triangular?
1:00:52 Andrew Manganelli? Okay. I think I have it.
1:00:56 Speaker 01 Got it. Got it.
1:00:58 David Imel? That was fire, dude.
1:01:00 Speaker 10 Thank you, thank you, thank you. Oh, thank you, God.
1:01:04 Andrew Manganelli? Please.
1:01:07 Speaker 02 Also, there's a delay in my headphones, which is why I was reading at a snail's pace. Like, just enough of a delay to make that really difficult. Uh, alright, let's really flip them.
1:01:17 Speaker 01 I think it would have been entertaining to see us, the progression of things we are writing, before we got to the last thing. We all said WhatsApp.
1:01:24 Speaker 10 That was not the answer I was looking for, but, uh, I forgot about WhatsApp, so...
1:01:32 Speaker 10 I was looking for iMessage, but WhatsApp, I'll give you the point for WhatsApp.
1:01:36 Speaker 01 iMessage is not an app.
1:01:38 Speaker 10 Yes, it is.
1:01:39 David Imel? It's called Messages.
1:01:46 Speaker 01 It's a protocol.
1:01:47 Andrew Manganelli? What's the white?
1:01:48 Speaker 01 Robot.
1:01:49 Speaker 02 Message, I don't, I don't, I don't care.
1:01:51 Speaker 01 So you're giving us points for what?
1:01:52 Speaker 02 Yeah, you guys get points. All right, this next one.
1:01:58 Speaker 02 This next one is as if.
1:02:02 Speaker 02 This next one is if you are a. No.
1:02:06 Speaker 02 This next one is as if you are a doctor reading a diagnosis.
1:02:11 Speaker 01 Wow.
1:02:12 Speaker 02 I hit the wrong computer.
1:02:18 Speaker 02 Well, I've reviewed your test results and we need to discuss what we're seeing here. There's a distinctive white ghost present and it's, it's quite prominent and appears to be set against a bright yellow background. The, the ghost has a somewhat playful demeanor with what looks like a tongue protruding slightly, which while unusual, doesn't appear to be serious.
1:02:40 Andrew Manganelli? I don't think that's the official app logo.
1:02:42 Speaker 02 I'd recommend we monitor this thing closely as it seems to have a tendency to make things
1:02:49 Speaker 02 disappear. We're losing him, we're losing him.
1:02:51 Speaker 01 That's the company logo, not the app.
1:02:53 Speaker 02 What's the app?
1:02:55 Speaker 01 The app doesn't have the tongue.
1:02:56 Andrew Manganelli? It doesn't have the tongue.
1:02:57 Speaker 02 That's the difference?
1:02:58 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah.
1:02:59 Speaker 01 There's no face on it at all, just the silhouette. Anyway, we all know what it is.
1:03:03 Speaker 02 It's ChatGPT's fault.
1:03:04 Andrew Manganelli? Not surprised.
1:03:05 Speaker 01 We all said Snapchat.
1:03:07 Speaker 02 Way to go.
1:03:08 Speaker 01 Cool. I don't even have Snapchat. I did it, I did it one time. Cause I'm not a youth.
1:03:14 Speaker 02 All right, guys, this is, this app, which now I have no idea if it got the icon or the logo, so just, just good luck. This one is a Revolutionary War era soldier who woke up in the future and is seeing this icon for the first time and is confused and awestruck.
1:03:31 Speaker 01 Okay.
1:03:32 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
1:03:34 Speaker 02 By my musket and my powder horn, what manner of sorcery is this?
1:03:42 Speaker 02 'Tis a red, a red background, red as the British coats we fought against at Lexington. Within this crimson field lies a white, my god, is it a white triangle? I believe it is, pointing to the east as if waiting for the sun to rise. Good sir, pray tell, what technological marvel from your time does this symbol represent?
1:04:05 Speaker 02 That's it? That's it. A white triangle in a red flag. In a red, uh, in a little, in a red box.
1:04:10 Andrew Manganelli? I thought it was something else.
1:04:13 Speaker 02 I mean, I hope I'm.
1:04:14 Andrew Manganelli? I have to the end of the fluke.
1:04:15 Speaker 02 No idea what that is. Hey, that's a fife.
1:04:18 Andrew Manganelli? I'm sorry?
1:04:19 Speaker 02 Oh.
1:04:22 Speaker 02 Fife dog. Actually, I fife and a fluter the same thing. I, I, I don't know why.
1:04:28 Speaker 02 Buzzer.
1:04:28 Andrew Manganelli? Ready?
1:04:29 Speaker 02 Yep, do it.
1:04:30 Andrew Manganelli? I really wish David got that one wrong, because I.
1:04:33 Speaker 02 Everyone got it right. Say it. One, two, three. YouTube. YouTube. Wow, okay, so this is way easier than I thought it would be. This next one, I'm going to read as if I am a, uh, morning. Talk show host. Radio, like FM, AM radio host.
1:04:49 Andrew Manganelli? WVFRM.
1:04:50 Speaker 02 WVFRM, exactly. Are you guys ready? Yes. Uh, upbeat morning radio voice with, I couldn't find the right music for this, so we're just. No, it just has to be like slight static.
1:05:03 Andrew Manganelli? AM radio?
1:05:05 Speaker 02 Yeah, AM radio. I mean, that's where all the talk shows are anyway. Like that?
1:05:10 Andrew Manganelli? No, that's.
1:05:11 Speaker 02 Okay. The time code. Guys, let's kick it off. Good morning, WF, WVFRM 101.5.
1:05:23 Speaker 02 Picture a bright coral pink background, fresher than your morning joe. In the center, a white A with attitude. It's one continuous line with style, no breaks or gaps.
1:05:39 Speaker 02 WVFRN listeners? What app are we talking about?
1:05:43 David Imel? A white, wait.
1:05:44 Speaker 02 Don't do that.
1:05:45 David Imel? He said a white A?
1:05:46 Speaker 02 A white A with attitude made of one continuous line.
1:05:49 Speaker 01 The longer it till they get right.
1:05:51 David Imel? An A?
1:05:54 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:05:54 David Imel? An A.
1:05:55 Speaker 01 All right, flip your boards. All right, flip your boards.
1:05:57 David Imel? No, not A.
1:05:57 Speaker 01 All right, flip your boards. All right.
1:05:59 Speaker 02 David, you better hurry up, David.
1:06:01 Speaker 01 Time to flip your boards. Three. Two. One. Flip.
1:06:08 Speaker 02 What did we put?
1:06:09 Speaker 01 Oh.
1:06:10 Andrew Manganelli? Wow, good job, Marcus.
1:06:11 David Imel? That was pretty good.
1:06:12 Speaker 01 It was Airbnb.
1:06:14 Speaker 02 Airbnb is correct.
1:06:15 Andrew Manganelli? Apple App Store.
1:06:16 David Imel? I wrote Apple in cursive.
1:06:20 Speaker 02 All right, guys, we have one.
1:06:21 Andrew Manganelli? Wow, you got that quick.
1:06:23 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:06:23 Speaker 02 We have one more. Can you hit the?
1:06:24 Speaker 01 It's all about.
1:06:25 David Imel? I literally booked an Airbnb today.
1:06:26 Speaker 01 As soon as you tell me the color, I have like a set of icons in my head.
1:06:32 Speaker 01 Okay.
1:06:32 Speaker 02 All right. We have one more. This is as if you are an astronaut. Radioing home.
1:06:41 Speaker 01 Nice.
1:06:42 Speaker 02 From outer space.
1:06:43 Speaker 01 Outer?
1:06:44 Speaker 02 Inner space. I don't know.
1:06:46 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:06:47 David Imel? Inner space?
1:06:49 Speaker 02 You're about to land on a planet.
1:06:53 Speaker 01 That's so good.
1:06:54 Speaker 02 I can't find.
1:06:55 David Imel? These voice changers are amazing.
1:06:56 Speaker 02 I had an outer space one.
1:06:59 Speaker 02 We'll do the robot one again. Here we go.
1:07:00 David Imel? No, I like the outer space.
1:07:01 Speaker 02 No, no, no, I had.
1:07:07 Speaker 11 Houston. Houston, we have a problem. This is Commander speaking from the landing pod. I am approaching a fascinating celestial body here. It's got this deep blue, cosmic blue surface that reminds me of Earth's ocean from orbit. Over. This most remarkable feature is, no, excuse me, the most remarkable feature is a large white symbol in the center that looks like the letter S, but it's curved and flowing like a sound wave.
1:07:40 Speaker 11 The entire formation pulses with a musical energy. This S, it floats on the blue background.
1:07:49 Speaker 01 God, I'm picturing, what is it called? Oh, yeah.
1:07:53 Speaker 11 It's a, it, it looks like it's already been the answer to a trivia question in this game.
1:08:01 Speaker 02 Alright, flip them and read. Oh man, I got it wrong. What did we get?
1:08:05 Speaker 01 Shazam.
1:08:07 Speaker 02 I wrote Skype. Ah, I can see why you would say that.
1:08:11 Speaker 01 Look what I wrote. I wrote...
1:08:12 Speaker 02 This one's pretty fun.
1:08:13 Speaker 01 I started writing App Store and I started writing Skype and then I landed on Shazam.
1:08:18 Speaker 02 Wait, we can make all of our voices sound like this?
1:08:19 Speaker 11 No, just mine, over.
1:08:21 Speaker 01 Uh, dang it.
1:08:22 Speaker 02 I'm gonna need...
1:08:26 Speaker 02 Uh, okay, that's all for that round, which means it is time for...
1:08:31 Speaker 01 The audio round.
1:08:33 Speaker 02 Guys...
1:08:34 Speaker 01 Was this no longer needed?
1:08:35 Speaker 02 Bangers only. Don't hate me, because I have no idea if this one's gonna go well or not, because we've used so many sounds, so many sounds. There's none left. And so, I did some thinking, and I realized, this audio round, this whole audio round thing, it's not actually about the audio, man. It's not. It's about the friends we made along the way. It's about nostalgia. Hmm. Fair. And what better feeling of nostalgia, what better, what better form of nostalgia... RuneScape. Is, is what's better, can you tell we've been podcasting for almost four hours, four or five hours now? Guys, what is better than remembering the feeling of hearing the alarm you used to wake
1:09:17 Speaker 02 up to in high school and having shivers straight down your spine? I don't remember. That's what we're doing today. I, on XDA, found a guy who ripped all the system sounds from all the phones. Nice. And put them all up in a Google Drive, and I downloaded the ones that weren't from China. And, uh, because those are the ones you guys might actually know. Those are pretty, the China ones are pretty. They were really, really, really good. The, uh, yeah, some of them were like... The Huawei ones are so like... The Huawei ones were amazing. Anyway, guys, I'm gonna play you some ringtones, some system sounds, some alerts, and you gotta tell me... What phone it was on? What phone it came from, and, uh, I really wish I could use the buzzer. What phone or what company? Company, company. Oh.
1:09:58 Speaker 01 So we're still writing them?
1:09:59 Speaker 02 Yes. As an example, if I were to play this...
1:10:06 Speaker 02 You would all know that is?
1:10:09 Speaker 12 Whoa, with a ball!
1:10:12 Speaker 02 No idea what that's from. Wait, none of you know what that's from? It's, I picked that as the obvious one. Are you serio- you guys know what that's from, right?
1:10:19 Speaker 05 My dad's ringtone, has been for 20 years.
1:10:21 Speaker 12 It's, that's on a phone?
1:10:23 Speaker 02 But on what?
1:10:24 Speaker 05 Oh boy.
1:10:25 Speaker 02 Sony Ericsson or something? What? What? Guys, that shipped with the original iPhone and has been on every single iPhone since. But it's not the default. It might be the default. It's not.
1:10:36 Speaker 01 Alarm?
1:10:36 Speaker 02 That's like, no, no, that's like, oh yeah, marimba was the default. That is like, one of the most iconic iPhone ringtones of them all. Beg to differ.
1:10:46 Speaker 01 I've heard it before.
1:10:46 Speaker 02 Twitter, now is your chance to tell Marques Brownlee he's wrong about the iPhone. I think they're gonna yell at you.
1:10:52 Speaker 01 There's some, there's some iconic, I don't know if that one's.
1:10:55 Speaker 02 Alright, alright, well let's see, well then maybe this is, audio round is gonna fall so flat because none of you have ever heard any of these before. We'll try. Let's see, you guys know this one?
1:11:06 Speaker 02 I had this on one of my phones. I haven't heard it, but I could guess. That also sounds like a sidekick or something. Of like, the 2000s, like the.
1:11:15 Speaker 12 Is it the company?
1:11:16 Speaker 02 Uh, the, I would say, let's say the platform. Can you do it again?
1:11:23 Speaker 02 So if you say Android, I'm going to assume you mean, you mean AOSP as opposed to OneUI or TouchWiz or any of these other things. Well, it's definitely not AOSP. Alright, one more time. That's a different one. I don't even remember which one I did. Was it this one?
1:11:40 Speaker 12 Yeah.
1:11:43 Speaker 01 Are we guessing this one?
1:11:44 Speaker 02 Yes. What do we got?
1:11:46 Speaker 01 Oh, I just.
1:11:48 Speaker 02 Hey, uh, stop the clock.
1:11:50 Speaker 01 Well, I said my.
1:11:54 Speaker 02 What do we got? Motorola. IRO HTC. You're both wrong. Oh, uh, that was an AOSP one. You all got it wrong. Really? Yeah.
1:12:02 Speaker 01 That's in every Android phone?
1:12:04 Speaker 02 Yeah, up until a certain point, if you look hard enough. Alright, what about this one?
1:12:11 David Imel? Hmm.
1:12:15 David Imel? Oh, I feel that. Oh, man.
1:12:17 Speaker 01 It sounds like a Volstec song.
1:12:18 David Imel? Yeah.
1:12:22 David Imel? Uh, okay.
1:12:24 Speaker 01 No clue where it's from, but it sounds cool.
1:12:28 Speaker 02 Oh, it seems like people are-
1:12:29 Andrew Manganelli? Ready?
1:12:29 David Imel? Yeah.
1:12:30 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:12:32 Speaker 02 What do you got?
1:12:33 David Imel? I wrote Motorola.
1:12:34 Speaker 02 Oh, wait.
1:12:36 Speaker 02 Motorola is... Wrong.
1:12:39 Andrew Manganelli? Or Apple.
1:12:39 Speaker 02 Apple's wrong.
1:12:40 Speaker 01 I wrote Sony.
1:12:41 Speaker 02 All right, this is not going well, you guys. I, uh, hmm.
1:12:45 David Imel? We don't really listen to-
1:12:46 Speaker 01 We keep our phones on silent?
1:12:48 David Imel? Yeah, I don't know about you.
1:12:49 Speaker 01 This is tough.
1:12:50 Speaker 02 Were you never children?
1:12:52 David Imel? Well, sure.
1:12:53 Speaker 01 Yeah, but-
1:12:54 David Imel? But I-
1:12:54 Speaker 02 Okay, but like if I play this one, you'll all recognize this, right?
1:13:00 Speaker 02 Holy [BLEEP], their phones have been on silent for years!
1:13:03 David Imel? You don't understand.
1:13:04 Andrew Manganelli? This sounds familiar.
1:13:05 Speaker 01 I care about other people.
1:13:07 Speaker 02 All right, well, I'm just gonna take you through a bunch of my favorites, then. This one's from, uh, the LG Wing.
1:13:13 Speaker 01 This is?
1:13:14 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
1:13:15 David Imel? That's cool.
1:13:16 Speaker 02 Wow, this fell totally flat.
1:13:18 David Imel? My LG Wing was never a-
1:13:19 Andrew Manganelli? There's one I can remember within the last 10 years, and that's the one Asus one that sounds like-
1:13:25 Speaker 01 Like, under the seat?
1:13:26 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah.
1:13:26 David Imel? Yeah. My friend's brother, uh, makes all the ringtones for the Pixel.
1:13:31 Andrew Manganelli? Oh.
1:13:32 Speaker 01 That's Samsung, every time.
1:13:33 David Imel? That's Samsung, yeah.
1:13:34 Speaker 01 Cause Samsung is-
1:13:35 David Imel? Over the horizon.
1:13:35 Speaker 01 A remix of the same song over and over.
1:13:37 Speaker 02 Okay. Here's a wacky one. People hated this sound so much, that when you search, when you just try to find, like, "Insert phone, insert..." This is the camera shutter sound effect. "Insert phone, camera shutter sound effect." You can't find anyone posting the sound effect by itself. It's just people being like, "How do I turn this off?"
1:13:56 Speaker 01 Oh, I've heard that. That's a Android, that's an AOSP sound.
1:14:00 Speaker 02 That is not an AOSP sound.
1:14:01 Speaker 01 I had that on my Android tablet. It was a Motorola tablet. Early Android, this is early Android, this is hollow.
1:14:08 Andrew Manganelli? Apple, because you're saying there's no chance that's happening?
1:14:11 Speaker 02 It's not early Android.
1:14:13 Speaker 01 It's not?
1:14:13 Speaker 02 But it is an Android-based platform.
1:14:15 Speaker 01 Play it again?
1:14:17 Speaker 02 I'll give you a hint. It's the one people are always wanting us to talk about.
1:14:21 Speaker 01 Now it makes me want to search the one that I think it is and see what that sounds like.
1:14:25 Speaker 02 Is this for points? Are we doing this for points? It's worth 35 points.
1:14:28 Speaker 01 No, you can't do that.
1:14:29 Speaker 02 It is. 35.
1:14:31 Speaker 01 Do that to me. I'm playing a sound effect from a different phone.
1:14:35 Andrew Manganelli? They always want us to talk about it?
1:14:36 Speaker 01 Are you guys?
1:14:37 Speaker 02 Does anyone else have answers?
1:14:38 Speaker 01 I have an answer.
1:14:39 Andrew Manganelli? No, I have no.
1:14:40 Speaker 02 Alright, let's see it.
1:14:41 Speaker 01 Sony.
1:14:42 Andrew Manganelli? Oh.
1:14:43 Speaker 02 Sony's correct. That is from the Experia. Marquez, what did you put?
1:14:46 Speaker 01 I didn't know what it was.
1:14:47 Speaker 02 Oh, [bleep].
1:14:49 Speaker 05 David runs away with it.
1:14:51 Speaker 02 I've ruined the game. I've ruined my precious game.
1:14:55 Speaker 01 I think we gotta do one more section.
1:14:56 Andrew Manganelli? Is there a speed round we could do?
1:14:58 Speaker 04 Alright, so we're, we're cutting to audio rounds since none of us know what the hell ringtones are on our phones because you all keep them on silent.
1:15:05 Speaker 01 You're welcome.
1:15:07 Speaker 04 Next one we're doing, it's all in a name. This was Ellis's idea. Where do tech companies get their names from? We're gonna read you the story of how a company got its name and you need to pick what the company is.
1:15:20 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
1:15:20 Speaker 04 This is a buzzer round, so get the buzzers ready.
1:15:23 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
1:15:24 Speaker 04 Alright.
1:15:24 Andrew Manganelli? And everything's worth 20 points?
1:15:26 Speaker 02 Remember, once you buzz in, you will have, I forget if it's five or 10 seconds, but you gotta get that thing out.
1:15:34 Speaker 04 What?
1:15:37 Speaker 02 Yo, Marquez, get that thing out.
1:15:41 Speaker 04 Keep that bang on me. Alright.
1:15:45 Andrew Manganelli? And you stop the question when we buzz, right?
1:15:47 Speaker 04 Yeah, I will stop reading.
1:15:48 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah, yeah.
1:15:50 Speaker 04 Alright, the first one. This company named itself because it works in fox-like speed.
1:15:56 Speaker 01 Foxconn.
1:15:57 Speaker 04 Correct.
1:15:58 Speaker 01 That was out in the book.
1:15:59 Speaker 04 20 points.
1:16:00 Speaker 01 Oh, but that was Firefox.
1:16:02 Speaker 04 Next. This company is named after its founder, who has the first name of Michael and currently sits at number 11.
1:16:09 Speaker 01 Oh.
1:16:09 Speaker 04 Marquez?
1:16:10 Speaker 01 Jordan. Wait, oh, Jordan. I thought that was...
1:16:15 Speaker 04 It's not a tech company. Uh, Dell. Dell, 20 points for Markez, I mean for Marquez, for David. These are only tech companies, I should have thought of that. Yeah, these are all tech companies. Michael Jordan.
1:16:29 Speaker 04 This company's name comes from a specific story in Arabian Nights, the same story where the phrase "open sesame" comes from. And apparently, the founder found that A, it was easy to pronounce all over the world, and B, that everyone knew the story. That's why they called it that. I don't know it. That's why we all sit here blank faced. Alright, the founder, Jack Ma. Alibaba. There it is. Nice. 20 points for Marquez. That is easy to say. Yeah, see? This company got its name from the game Go, and has a similar meaning to when you say che- GoPro? No. So now, David, you cannot say- I can? No, you cannot. Was that a- Join in. Was that- This is now between Marquez and Andrew. I didn't know that. So I'm gonna start over. The company name actually comes from the game Go,
1:17:13 Speaker 04 has a similar meaning to when you say "check" in chess, according to the Wiki of Terms in the game Go. Its first game, Pong, was released in 19- Atari. Atari. 20 points for Andrew. I wasn't either.
1:17:31 Speaker 04 Wow. You guys are old. The idea for this company initially came about because one of its founders forgot his USB drive at home for his work assignment and university. According to Rewind and Capture.com, this company got its name because it created a virtual space where users could store files in.
1:17:50 Speaker 04 Dropbox. Dropbox, 20 points. Good guess. Good one. That's good. One of the co-founders named this company by deriving it from the phrase, quote, "searchable log of all conversation and knowledge", end quote, replacing the previous code name, LineFeed.
1:18:05 Speaker 02 Are you serious?
1:18:06 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:18:08 Speaker 04 He's back-named his way into this, baby. Can you say it again? "Searchable log of all conversation and knowledge." Slack. Slack. 20 points for David. That's cool. Wow, David's running away with this. Alright. Original name was Kadabra. Also- Marquez?
1:18:26 Speaker 02 It's Kadabra.
1:18:28 Speaker 04 Kadabra. Alakazam.
1:18:32 Speaker 04 Google. Ah, nope. So now this is between Andrew and David. Alright.
1:18:36 Speaker 02 Bald.
1:18:38 Speaker 04 Bald? Original name was Kadabra. Kadabra. Also shares a name with a world famous river.
1:18:45 Speaker 02 Bald.
1:18:47 Speaker 04 Wait, sorry. That's easy. Bald?
1:18:51 Speaker 02 Don't let him distract you. World famous river.
1:18:54 Speaker 04 Come on. Come on. What? No. Rivian. Andrew. This is all on you. I'm gonna keep reading. Nile. No! Bald? Rivian.
1:19:06 Speaker 04 No.
1:19:06 Andrew Manganelli? Can I buzz now?
1:19:07 Speaker 04 Yeah, this is just free fall. Go.
1:19:09 Andrew Manganelli? Amazon.
1:19:10 Speaker 04 Amazon. Twenty points. Bald? Why did you say bald?
1:19:13 Speaker 02 Cause of Jeff Bezos.
1:19:15 Speaker 04 He doesn't know. He's not the CEO.
1:19:17 Andrew Manganelli? He's not the CEO. It's Jesse.
1:19:18 Speaker 04 Well, now, yeah. Yeah, let's on it. Next question. Founded as Luck He Chemical Industrial Corp. in English, pronounced similar to lucky, with a sister company called Gold Star that produced plastics. Eventually- Samsung? Nope.
1:19:35 Speaker 04 Who was that? Oh, that was just the wrong. Okay. Eventually, the two merged into Lucky Gold Star. LG. LG. Twenty points.
1:19:44 Andrew Manganelli? Why am I dumb?
1:19:47 Speaker 04 Next. The company name of Blank was created by combining two words of sonus and sunny. The word sonus in Latin represents words like sound and sun. Sonos. No. Close. I was thinking that too, actually.
1:20:04 Speaker 02 It's, uh, sonus.
1:20:05 Speaker 04 Oh, sonus. Okay. The word sonus in Latin represents words like sound and sonic. The other word sunny means little sun. Used in combination, Blank is supposed to represent a very small group of young people who have the energy and passion towards unlimited creations and innovative ideas. That comes from their corporate history website. What? Couldn't even begin. Wow. Say again. Zarushi.
1:20:33 Speaker 04 GE? Let me-
1:20:34 Andrew Manganelli? Samsung?
1:20:35 Speaker 04 No. Sony. Sony. I was gonna reread it, just, just sonus and sunny. Last one. Worth? Ah, what am I feeling? Let me check the score real quick. Checks notes. This is just so bull****, man. Last question for 50 points. Fifty? That's what my scorekeeper told me to put it. Fifty points? Fifty points. Oh, gosh. Original name of this company was, quote, "Legend," end quote, and was founded in Beijing in 1984. But in the States, there were already trademarks for "Legend," so they rebranded to "New Legend," or as we know them, "Blank." The "lay" coming from "Legend," and the "blank" coming from Latin.
1:21:22 Andrew Manganelli? The "lay" coming from "Legend"?
1:21:24 Speaker 04 That should have been a hint.
1:21:29 Speaker 04 Chinese. The Latin word was "new." New?
1:21:33 Andrew Manganelli? New Legend?
1:21:37 Speaker 04 New Legend. New Legend.
1:21:42 Speaker 04 First part "lay," second part "blank." "lay." No, meaning new.
1:21:47 Andrew Manganelli? I'm only thinking like "Legion."
1:21:49 David Imel? Lenovo?
1:21:51 Speaker 04 "lay."
1:21:52 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, is it that?
1:21:53 Speaker 04 What? This is still a buzz around, so if anyone wants to press their buzzes.
1:21:56 Andrew Manganelli? Lenovo?
1:21:57 Speaker 04 That was Andrew?
1:21:58 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah.
1:21:59 Speaker 04 Correct!
1:22:00 Andrew Manganelli? Didn't you say that?
1:22:01 David Imel? Yeah, I was...
1:22:01 Andrew Manganelli? Okay.
1:22:02 Speaker 04 Fifty points to Andrew.
1:22:04 David Imel? That's the only thing that makes sense, but...
1:22:05 Speaker 04 "lay novo"?
1:22:06 David Imel? I wasn't sure if "nova" was actually...
1:22:08 Speaker 04 "lay novo."
1:22:08 David Imel? Latin, okay.
1:22:10 Speaker 04 Legend.
1:22:13 Speaker 02 Gentlemen, thank you for playing a fantastic game. Unfortunately, we are all out of questions, all out of energy. I'm hungry, I'm sweaty, I'm tired. David has to get on a flight, which means we can finally announce our winners. In third place, with 268 points...
1:22:30 Andrew Manganelli? In third?
1:22:30 Speaker 02 In third place with 268 points, the most ever scored in a game of Waveform Trivia Extravaganza, we have Andrew Manganelle! Topping him with the most points ever scored in a Waveform Trivia Extravaganza. In second place, Big Hoss himself, the man of the hour, Marques Brownlee with 269 points, beating out Andrew by one point!
1:22:54 Andrew Manganelli? I mean, I took his answer, so...
1:22:56 David Imel? Wow.
1:22:57 Speaker 04 Whoa.
1:22:57 Andrew Manganelli? Which means...
1:22:59 Speaker 02 But now...
1:23:00 Speaker 04 Oh, my god.
1:23:01 Speaker 02 For his first...
1:23:02 Andrew Manganelli? Is it really happening? There's actually someone remote playing, and they beat you.
1:23:07 Speaker 02 Oh, shoot, I ran out of music.
1:23:10 David Imel? Just turn the robot voice back on.
1:23:12 Speaker 02 Here we go. David Immo!
1:23:29 David Imel? Thank you.
1:23:31 David Imel? Wait, how many?
1:23:31 Andrew Manganelli? The Pottens Cup.
1:23:32 David Imel? How many points do I have?
1:23:33 Andrew Manganelli? Oh, that's taken right from my desk, dude. Oh, you didn't even print a new one?
1:23:37 Speaker 02 No, it's like the Stanley Cup.
1:23:38 Andrew Manganelli? Oh.
1:23:39 David Imel? It still says "Shut up, Ellis" on it.
1:23:40 Speaker 02 Yeah. So how many? Because I still need to shut up.
1:23:43 David Imel? How many points do I get?
1:23:44 Speaker 02 You got 357 points.
1:23:49 Andrew Manganelli? Correct me if I'm right, that's the most ever scored, dude.
1:23:52 Speaker 02 That is the most ever, making David the Wayne Gretzky of Pottens Cup holders. Does that make sense? Did he do that? Is that the hockey guy, right? That's, I'm asking Andrew, did I do that right?
1:24:04 Andrew Manganelli? The most points ever?
1:24:05 Speaker 02 I don't know.
1:24:05 Andrew Manganelli? Yeah. Yeah.
1:24:06 Speaker 02 David, you're the Dave Gretzky. The Dave Metzky.
1:24:11 David Imel? Can I have a speech?
1:24:12 Speaker 02 Sure.
1:24:13 Andrew Manganelli? A few words, David.
1:24:15 David Imel? It might have taken me four seasons, just like the hotel chain, but I knew that eventually this tower would crumble for the rest of them and something would rise from the ashes.
1:24:29 Andrew Manganelli? Waiting for someone in the comments to be like, "You calculated wrong."
1:24:32 Speaker 02 So they will. And, um, but you know what we have to say to that?
1:24:35 David Imel? Thanks.
1:24:37 Andrew Manganelli? Too bad.
1:24:38 Speaker 02 Thanks for coming to this trivia extravaganza. We will see you next time. I'm your host, Ellis. This has been Adam, Alex, David, Andrew Marquez. Wave over is produced by Adam Alina and Ellis Robin. This time, Alex Wolf is also behind the board. We'll see you, oh, Vane Sealed did some stuff and Vox Media Podcast Network. We'll see you next time.
1:24:58 David Imel? Can you play the robot voice again?
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