Part Two: Sharon Stone Nearly Died, Saw a Blinding White Light, and Was Told by Five Orbs Her Destiny Was To Stay Alive

Sharon Stone has never shared a conversation quite like this. The Basic Instinct and Casino star, bestselling author of The Beauty of Living Twice, artist, producer, and humanitarian opens up on Mayim Bialik's Breakdown about the extraordinary experiences that completely transformed how she sees life, consciousness, death, love, and the universe. She reveals the terrifying near death experience she had after suffering a devastating stroke and coma, traveling through a brilliant light, sensing deceased loved ones, and communicating with mysterious orbs that spoke in what she describes as a digital language. Sharon explains why she now believes the soul survives death, why we're not alone in the universe, why there are more than three dimensions, and why higher consciousness is something we can all access. She also recounts the mysterious physical attack that left her repeatedly struck in the chest over several days with absolutely no memory of what happened, being struck by lightning as a teenager, surviving an accident that nearly decapitated her while riding a horse, her thoughts on past lives, and why her father believed she was the reincarnation of an ancient pharaoh. Sharon shares why she believes high pattern recognition is a genuine form of psychic ability, how prayer feels like a vibrational frequency we can tune into, why energetic boundaries are essential, how she channels while painting, and how her stroke unexpectedly activated synesthesia and new parts of her brain. Sharon says she believes Mayim is her "soul contact" before giving her a spontaneous palm reading. She also tells the remarkable story of the famous psychic who once worked with Tina Turner and accurately predicted her career, life path, and that she would eventually meet the love of her life later in life. She opens up about her difficult recovery from her stroke after doctors believed she had less than 30 days to live, how she discovered that prognosis through a tabloid, the years she spent relearning how to read, rebuilding motor skills, getting off medication, and why she refused to accept that her story was over. Sharon reflects on the role that made her a global icon—Basic Instinct—explaining how it helped her discover her authentic self while also opening the door to darker people entering her life. She discusses why she enjoys playing psychologically complex and dark characters, why some actors unfairly earn the label of being "difficult," and why Hollywood often struggles to understand people who grew up outside its world. She also shares what it was like growing up in rural America, why being a highly precocious child with an exceptionally high IQ shaped her life, how her mother's traumatic childhood affected their family, why gratitude is one of the most powerful healing forces we have, and why our standards of beauty desperately need to evolve. The conversation explores why she never understood the backlash she received for speaking about the George W. Bush presidency, her deep friendship with Willie Nelson and how he helped her through one of the hardest periods of her life, and what her dating life looks like today, including why she's chosen celibacy. Sharon reveals why she absolutely loved The Big Bang Theory, why she wanted to appear on the show, and how her lifelong fascination with physics connects to her deepest beliefs about reality itself. Sharon Stone's memoir, The Beauty of Living Twice: https://a.co/d/0gfKkR4DSharon Stone's art: https://sharonstonestudio.com/ Follow us on Substack for Exclusive Bonus Content: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bialikbreakdown.substack.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bialikbreakdown.substack.com/%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BialikBreakdown.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.bialikbreakdown.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube.com/mayimbialik⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/mayimbialik%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:04Mayim Bialik?

  Hi, I'm Mayim Bialik.

• 0:05Jonathan Cohen?

  And I'm Jonathan Cohen.

• 0:06Mayim Bialik?

  And welcome to part two of our conversation with the incredible Sharon Stone. Actress, author, she can currently be seen in HBO Max's current season of Euphoria, as well as In Memoriam, which premiered at Tribeca with Marc Maron. In part two, we're going to talk about her relationship with a higher consciousness, what playing dark characters has taught her about the darkness that can attach itself to you, and why are some actors labeled difficult, and is she one of them?

• 0:36Jonathan Cohen?

  She also talks about a powerful psychic reading she had when she was just 23 years old that laid out many of the events that she experienced in her life, as well as she takes Mayim's right hand and does an intuitive reading.

• 0:51Mayim Bialik?

  She's also going to talk about what it means to be at this stage of life and to feel like she hasn't quite found the love that she's looking for. It's an incredible part two, we can't wait for you to hear it. Head over to Substack for all of the bonus content from this episode and so much more. Please enjoy part two of our conversation with Sharon Stone.

• 1:11Speaker 02

  Break it down.

• 1:13Mayim Bialik?

  Since you had an experience where, by all descriptions, you died and you came back, what do you think about what's out there and what's next?

• 1:25Speaker 03

  I think that what we understand, we can weigh the soul, we know, we've had, people have done that, we have a scientific proof of that, right? They've made movies about it, we have research about it, we understand that. When I work with, I've worked with young women who have been tried as adults, girls that have been homeless and in the streets and have been put in terrible circumstances and then have been given a second chance and have then ended up living in recovery houses. And I've worked with those kids, and that's why my sister and I started an organization

• 2:07Speaker 03

  that no longer exists, but for many years, we had an organization, Camp Planet Hope. And we took these kids to summer camps, and we made sure they got dental care and healthcare, and that their moms, if they could come, would also get chances to get jobs and get back in the system and get housed and things like that. So we really worked to get families back together and help get these kids back on the road. And one of the things that I always really tried to talk to these young girls about was, no matter what has happened to you, and no matter the kind of abuse and the kind

• 2:51Speaker 03

  of effects that have been upon you, I tried to get them to identify their soul. How big do you think your soul is? What color do you think your soul is? Let's look at it, let's identify it, let's measure it, let's, show me your soul. Now, here's what I want you to know, no one's ever touched that. No one's ever harmed that, no one's ever gotten near that. That belongs to you and you alone. So let's start working from there. This is yours and only yours. And this is something I want to tell women who are in abusive relationships, or men that are in abusive relationships.

• 3:35Speaker 03

  No one's ever touched your soul. That's yours and yours alone. And get a hold of that, because that is the piece that you are going to be able to take with you, move with you, and repatriatize. That's what's going to get you together. And you can build that out, and that will eventually help you heal your body bag. Re-get your body, mind, and spirit back together. Once you get a hold of your soul, that's what's going to help you get yourself back together.

• 4:14Mayim Bialik?

  That's what you had to do.

• 4:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:17Mayim Bialik?

  Right?

• 4:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:17Mayim Bialik?

  That's what you had to do. I mean, you had to do it more than once.

• 4:20Speaker 03

  Yes, oh, yes. I mean, I was hit with lightning when I was a kid.

• 4:25Mayim Bialik?

  What?

• 4:25Speaker 03

  My dad and I were hit with lightning the same year. So bizarre, right?

• 4:30Mayim Bialik?

  What was that like?

• 4:32Speaker 03

  I was getting ready to go to my job at Bob's Big Boy.

• 4:38Mayim Bialik?

  A fine establishment.

• 4:39Speaker 03

  A fine establishment.

• 4:40Mayim Bialik?

  How old were you?

• 4:41Speaker 03

  Oh, God, I was little, I mean...

• 4:45Mayim Bialik?

  I mean, working at Bob's Big Boy?

• 4:47Speaker 03

  Right.

• 4:47Mayim Bialik?

  Teenager?

• 4:48Speaker 03

  16.

• 4:49Mayim Bialik?

  Okay.

• 4:49Speaker 03

  17.

• 4:50Mayim Bialik?

  Okay.

• 4:52Speaker 03

  17, probably. I was gonna, I was gonna iron my uniform. I had the iron in one hand and the faucet in the other hand.

• 4:59Mayim Bialik?

  No.

• 5:00Speaker 03

  We had our own well. And the well got hit with lightning.

• 5:04Mayim Bialik?

  Stop it right now.

• 5:04Speaker 03

  And the lightning came right up through the water. You could really, you could see it. And it threw me across the kitchen, and I hit, it just picked me right up off my feet, and I hit the refrigerator. And my mother was standing there, knocked me out, and my mother came over and, she just belted me to bring me back to consciousness. Picked me up, put me in the car, took me to the hospital. They gave me an EKG, they could see it.

• 5:34Mayim Bialik?

  Yes.

• 5:35Speaker 03

  In my system. And I had to go back every week for weeks, because they kept measuring it in my body. And I was told by a cardiothoracic expert, who's the head of a university in Zurich, that this is why I survived what happened to me. Because I have had a different, because I have a different, because my body is now different from having the...

• 6:14Mayim Bialik?

  Being shocked.

• 6:15Speaker 03

  Being shocked, because of the way the lightning ran through my body, that that's why I survived this attack.

• 6:22Mayim Bialik?

  I'm like, I mean, my brain is like, trying to make sense of all this, that's unreal. And your dad was also struck by lightning?

• 6:29Speaker 03

  Same, same year. He was under a tree, and he was leaning on the tree when the tree got hit with lightning.

• 6:36Mayim Bialik?

  Do you think there's anything interesting about these kinds of coincidences in your family? I think there's something special.

• 6:42Speaker 03

  I do.

• 6:42Jonathan Cohen?

  No one ever heard lightning doesn't strike twice?

• 6:44Mayim Bialik?

  Lightning doesn't strike twice.

• 6:45Jonathan Cohen?

  It clearly strikes twice.

• 6:47Speaker 03

  Right. And my dad, my mother had my brother, and then they told my mom she could never have more children. And my dad said, oh, you are, you're going to have a daughter, and her name is Sharon, and she's going to change the world. And my dad was obsessed with this concept. He was just obsessed with this concept, that he was going to have a daughter named Sharon, and she was going to change the world. And he, he just had this in his mind so obsessively. And he was also had these, many of these beliefs, but he told me we couldn't tell

• 7:31Speaker 03

  the rest of the family, because they would think we were nuts.

• 7:33Mayim Bialik?

  What kind of beliefs?

• 7:34Speaker 03

  You know, he was the guy who gave me the book, Women Who Run With The Wolves. And he would do all these things and have all these talks with me.

• 7:44Mayim Bialik?

  He believed you were special.

• 7:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, and he just, you know, stood up for me in a lot of ways, and would tell me all these things, you got to do this, and you got to do that, and don't do this, and don't do that. But, you know, he would also tell me, you can't be telling other people, and you can't tell people in the family, they'll think you're nuts. And he, but he was really, he thought I was a reincarnation of a Pharaoh. And, you know, but he was like, but don't tell people that.

• 8:15Mayim Bialik?

  Was he, I mean, was he prone to creative thinking?

• 8:20Speaker 03

  Well, apparently.

• 8:21Mayim Bialik?

  Yeah.

• 8:22Speaker 03

  But...

• 8:22Mayim Bialik?

  Maybe you are a Pharaoh reincarnated. I don't have rules about this. If anyone's going to be a Pharaoh reincarnated, it's going to be Sharon Stone.

• 8:31Speaker 03

  I never really felt that, but he felt that.

• 8:35Mayim Bialik?

  Have you ever done like a past life regression or anything where they try and like get in there?

• 8:39Speaker 03

  I haven't.

• 8:40Mayim Bialik?

  Okay, I'm just wondering, like if we hypnot-

• 8:42Speaker 03

  I haven't. Have you?

• 8:43Mayim Bialik?

  Yeah, I've tried a lot of things, but I'm just wondering if we were to like hypnotize you, right? And like take you to a different place, maybe you'd be like, I am a Pharaoh.

• 8:50Speaker 03

  I haven't done it. Um, I have just, you know, dealing with this particular life has been kind of a handful, you know?

• 8:59Jonathan Cohen?

  It's kept you busy.

• 9:00Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, I've had quite a few near death experiences, you know? I, I had an unbroken horse that I was trying to break, um, take me under a clothesline when I was 14 and cut my neck-

• 9:14Mayim Bialik?

  Oh.

• 9:14Speaker 03

  -all the way up into here and nearly decapitate me when I was 14 and cut me to like a 16th of an inch from my jugular vein. And that was pretty intense.

• 9:27Mayim Bialik?

  You've got nine lives.

• 9:28Speaker 03

  Yeah. So I've had a lot of these type of really crazy things happen to me. And so I just kind of am of the belief that I don't have a lot of, I'm not a fear-driven person.

• 9:44Mayim Bialik?

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• 13:53Speaker 03

  I just, but I have, like, you asked me before if I believe that consciousness, we have, I do believe in universal consciousness. I mean, there were a lot of prayer groups for me when I had this stroke, and I felt it.

• 14:09Mayim Bialik?

  What did it feel like?

• 14:11Speaker 03

  Like a vibratory pattern that you tune into. And I believe we can tune into that. And I believe we can tune into this higher consciousness. And I believe there is a higher consciousness that we can tune into and that we should tune into, particularly now. And particularly and especially right now. I believe right now is the moment to tune into the higher consciousness.

• 14:43Jonathan Cohen?

  Having so many near-death experiences, do you believe that, you know, you were protected? Like, because any one of those could have made you not go on the life path that you've had, right?

• 14:54Speaker 03

  I think that there's certainly more than three dimensions. And if we look at, there was this, um, you've probably heard of Ken Wilber. He's a physicist. Um, he wrote some really interesting books. And he was very interested in the fifth dimension and fifth dimensional thinking. And I used to talk to him on the phone because I found him completely fascinating. Um, and I would try to get him to meet with me, but he wouldn't meet with anybody. You know, all of these expressions, "I've got eyes in the back of

• 15:35Speaker 03

  my head" and, you know, "I can see through you." I think these all originated from truths, that they're not just expressions. I think that we shake hands because we want to exchange energetic particles with people, because we want to feel them, that that's didn't just start, it started from something very specific.

• 16:01Mayim Bialik?

  Other primates do it as well.

• 16:03Speaker 03

  Right.

• 16:04Mayim Bialik?

  Yeah.

• 16:04Speaker 03

  It's to feel our energetic energy to, because we start to feel it before we touch. We feel as we get close. I think we kiss to exchange breath, not just the touch of the lip, but the breath itself. You know, I think there's Kundalini is really real and true, you know?

• 16:30Mayim Bialik?

  Are you a yoga person?

• 16:31Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 16:32Mayim Bialik?

  Are you a Kundalini person?

• 16:33Speaker 03

  I believe, yes, yes.

• 16:35Mayim Bialik?

  Yeah. It's very, very special.

• 16:37Speaker 03

  And I think it's really real and true. I think all of these things are based in, in understanding of energetic communication, right?

• 16:48Mayim Bialik?

  Yeah, totally.

• 16:50Speaker 03

  You know, some of the deepest experiences I've ever had are simply eye contact, you know? And people are afraid to look in each other's eyes, and I think it's really important and real and true.

• 17:02Mayim Bialik?

  Jeffrey Kreipel talks about, um, an individual who he met who, you know, by all accounts would have been hospitalized for being a paranoid schizophrenic. You know, a lot of his patterns that he and his thought patterns were very unusual, but he experienced Kundalini rising. But he, but he wasn't a yoga practitioner. He was this guy who said, "I can feel something spiraling." And he described exactly what every yoga teacher tries to tell you to experience. He had no yogic framework for it. He was literally experiencing something energetic that was rising and giving him strength, and it was fascinating. Anyway, this notion of the things that we think we understand, and we think

• 17:46Mayim Bialik?

  we have the words for them, but sometimes it takes extraordinary experiences to place them practically.

• 17:51Jonathan Cohen?

  Also, what you're describing in terms of being just more sensitive, whether that's to eye contact, to the sensing of energy, ties back to what we were talking about in terms of awe and gratitude.

• 18:03Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 18:04Jonathan Cohen?

  In order to feel and to imagine some other plane of existence, we have to increase our sensitivity a little bit.

• 18:11Speaker 03

  Right.

• 18:12Jonathan Cohen?

  And this actually ties back to me to acting.

• 18:16Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 18:17Jonathan Cohen?

  Because what do actors have? They have a range that they're able, an emotional range that they're able to access in a way that a lot of people aren't. And they're able to dip into something on command and control it. How is that any different than just having a high sensitivity and learning how to direct your consciousness towards something that hasn't yet happened yet?

• 18:37Mayim Bialik?

  Well, or a person that doesn't exist.

• 18:39Jonathan Cohen?

  Or may exist somewhere else that you're just pulling forward.

• 18:42Speaker 03

  Well, if time doesn't really exist, right? Which I think we have to really accept, that time is just an agreement, right? Because we know in physics that things that are in the future are, are also in the now. And we get to decide if we bring them into the now. And we can accept them, reject them, enliven them. We get to choose, right? We get to choose what we want to do, right? So make good choices is not just something

• 19:24Speaker 03

  you say when your kids run out the door. It's a real thing, make good choices, right? And why have we made sometimes bad choices? Or why do bad choices make us? Why did they come to us? Well, you know, darkness comes to the light. It sucks in, right? And if you're a light, you're gonna, that's gonna come around, and you have to-

• 19:56Speaker 03

  Know that that's part of it. It's part of the balance. It's part of the yin yang thing. First, you have to understand your own darkness and understand what is it? And what is the full content of your own darkness? And is that a big deal? No.

• 20:14Mayim Bialik?

  Maybe you can talk a little bit in terms of acting. You know, many of the roles that you have played, been nominated for, won awards for, are these very complicated women.

• 20:24Speaker 03

  And dark and have really been in their own darkness. Well, when you do that and when you reach into all of the corners of your own darkness, it's a terrifying process. But once you do it, it's so freeing because you're like, really? That's it? That's the whole shebang? Of course. Of course, when people have walked across the street in front of your car, you're like, what would happen if I hit them? Every person has had that thought.

• 20:58Mayim Bialik?

  Is that what's fun about playing dark characters?

• 21:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, of course. Of course, because you don't have to have the physical consequence and the practical experience of violence. You have the pretend experience, but you do have to you do have to actually process it and look at it. Now, there are times when I've invited it too close to me and I've scared the living shit out of myself.

• 21:33Mayim Bialik?

  Like when?

• 21:33Speaker 03

  When I had Basic Instinct and I had to bring to really look at darkness and yet I was very still young and inexperienced, right? And I didn't understand about holding the core, the core self, the golden self, and then wrapping the character around it with the power of the self driving it. But just bringing it all in there and looking at it all, I opened some dark doors, right? And some of those dark doors really scared the living shit out of me because I saw some real, real darkness.

• 22:17Speaker 03

  And what happened then is that real dark people identified and came into my life thinking, oh, you really are like me. You're like me.

• 22:33Mayim Bialik?

  My mind is just blown because that interface, being an actress at the level that you were, you're in everybody's space, right? And that means that they can be in yours.

• 22:42Speaker 03

  Right. And so darkness came into my life. Dark people, dark things, dangerous things came into my life because they thought, you're like me. And then people believed some of the dark things that were said about me because they thought, oh, you couldn't do that if you weren't like that because you've mirrored me to me.

• 23:09Mayim Bialik?

  And it doesn't happen for men the same. I'm thinking of every Pacino movie I've seen. You know, like, it doesn't happen for men that way. It's like, oh, he's a sophisticated actor and he's so amazing and look how he can pretend.

• 23:20Speaker 03

  Oh, look how great he was. But at the same time, how exaggerated he was, right? My character wasn't quite as exaggerated.

• 23:30Mayim Bialik?

  She was seductive, so.

• 23:31Speaker 03

  Right. You know, and really, the one thing you gotta remember is just because the devil's a very interesting person at the cocktail party doesn't mean you should invite that person, give him a seat. Don't give that person a seat, right?

• 23:47Jonathan Cohen?

  I haven't heard it described the way you did about the core self and wrapping the character around in that way.

• 23:53Speaker 03

  You don't ever give up the core.

• 23:56Jonathan Cohen?

  Because people talk about inhabiting this character, but they don't talk about maintaining that core essence.

• 24:01Mayim Bialik?

  Well, you think of method. I'm thinking of all the method actors, right?

• 24:04Speaker 03

  You can't be porous. You just can't be porous because if any of it gets in, all of a sudden, the dark people, they want to be around you. They want to come to you. They think, oh, you're like me. And when they find out that you're not like them, they get upset. They get very upset.

• 24:25Mayim Bialik?

  Because they want you to match them because it validates their darkness.

• 24:28Speaker 03

  Yes, and they think they're gonna break you. But they don't realize they could break you into a million pieces and all they're gonna find is more light. It's not gonna happen.

• 24:39Mayim Bialik?

  Was there a time when you felt consumed by that? And what did you do to push it away?

• 24:45Speaker 03

  You mean, when the darkness came? I nearly died. But the light saved me. The light is what saved me and the universal consciousness of light that vibrated at my frequency is what saved me, what came to me.

• 25:05Mayim Bialik?

  I was just gonna say, yes.

• 25:07Speaker 03

  That is what came to me.

• 25:09Jonathan Cohen?

  It feels like you almost lost yourself for a moment there, inhabiting that darkness, inviting it in and not holding that tether and then having the world reflect that back at you.

• 25:20Speaker 03

  Fortunately, enough of me held to the light and that just the crack where it got in was dangerous. Here's what I didn't realize about compassion itself, right? You don't give you give compassion to people, right? You give compassion to people who are lost, compassion to people who are hurt, compassion to people who are wounded. You don't give compassion to people who get up every day and choose a bad path. You don't do that. You don't give them compassion thinking you're gonna just help them get off that bad path. You do not give them compassion. Nope.

• 26:04Speaker 03

  And I didn't know that.

• 26:07Mayim Bialik?

  You were porous.

• 26:08Speaker 03

  I was porous and I was young and I thought that I could fix that. I thought, oh, you're hurt. Oh, you've been hurt. Oh, you've been wounded. Oh, someone did something terrible to make you like that. Oh, my God, I could fix you. I could love you.

• 26:29Mayim Bialik?

  There's 12 step programs just for this, right?

• 26:30Speaker 03

  Al-Anon.

• 26:31Mayim Bialik?

  Yeah, like, let me make it better.

• 26:35Speaker 03

  Yeah. Al-Anon is a really good guidebook.

• 26:38Mayim Bialik?

  For people who are porous, right?

• 26:40Speaker 03

  For people who are porous. And I was porous.

• 26:43Mayim Bialik?

  Also, for women, I think we are naturally caregivers. I think it's fair to say that. We're the ones that hold in birth and, you know, just like Mother Earth issues, right? So I think that for women also, and depending on your family, a lot of times, responsibility for people's emotions does fall on women.

• 27:02Speaker 03

  I think that's why I was given the family I was given so that I could come to understand that even if they're your family, don't be porous. There's a family you're born with and there's a family that you choose. Don't be porous. If you get up every day and choose the wrong path, I do not have compassion for you. I will go from being engaged here to watching you like I'm watching TV. There's two ways to connect. I can connect with you up front or I can connect with you from here.

• 27:45Mayim Bialik?

  Wow, as an observer.

• 27:47Speaker 03

  I'm observing and I am not connected.

• 27:50Mayim Bialik?

  That's detachment.

• 27:51Speaker 03

  And I do not have compassion. I have detachment and observation and you can fuck off.

• 28:00Mayim Bialik?

  I think it's amazing. It's a really amazing distinction.

• 28:04Speaker 03

  And that doesn't mean I am not all the way light.

• 28:06Mayim Bialik?

  Right.

• 28:08Speaker 03

  Or a lighthouse. Should you ever decide to knock it off?

• 28:14Mayim Bialik?

  Boundaries.

• 28:15Speaker 03

  Big ones.

• 28:16Jonathan Cohen?

  But this is also like a masterclass in energetics.

• 28:21Speaker 03

  But I really had to learn it. And I learned it the super hard way. I learned it standing up on a gurney, having someone ready to cut the top of my head off.

• 28:32Jonathan Cohen?

  When you face darkness again in another role that you are inhabiting, for example, so after Basic Instinct, when you were getting other roles.

• 28:43Speaker 03

  Like in Ratchet?

• 28:44Jonathan Cohen?

  Ratchet, or I think Casino is just one of my favorite movies of all time. How did you re-approach it? Was it a conscious effort to be like, I'm gonna hold myself now and I'm gonna like, I almost the image I get is like, I'm holding on this and I'm gonna go explore this world over here, but I'm like always, you know, holding really tightly.

• 29:06Speaker 03

  And even when I had emotions and feelings and all kinds of things, I was able to contain them in this is I'm having all these feelings, but guess what? It's not appropriate to act on them, right? I'm having all these thoughts and things. Not this is appropriate, this isn't. I was able to have my, like, super conscious self who could go, good for you.

• 29:47Jonathan Cohen?

  You're almost watching yourself, experiencing it. So you're there in everything, but not as in it as the first time.

• 29:54Speaker 03

  And I can still have respect and admiration for people who have no understanding of what the hell I was doing and who think, I like her, I don't like her. It doesn't I don't need them to have the same respect and admiration for me. I don't need them to understand.

• 30:11Mayim Bialik?

  I hate this phrase, so I'm using it intentionally. Are you a difficult actress?

• 30:18Speaker 03

  I'm a super professional. I am not difficult. But you get the term difficult if you don't have sex with sometimes people they want you to have sex with.

• 30:32Mayim Bialik?

  You're amazing.

• 30:32Speaker 03

  You get the term, you are difficult. So am I difficult in that way? The most. I think that's amazing. I'm the most difficult.

• 30:41Mayim Bialik?

  I think that's amazing.

• 30:43Speaker 03

  My sexuality is reserved for people I actually care about. Now, do they always care about me? No. And do they sometimes tell me that they don't? When I'm caring about them? Yes. Does that affect how I feel about them? No. I choose who I care about. If you care about me or don't care about me, that's up to you.

• 31:11Jonathan Cohen?

  We are not who loves us, but who we love.

• 31:14Speaker 03

  Exactly. Exactly. And I am really able to be like that. And it's really hard for some people to understand. But your understanding is not my problem.

• 31:29Mayim Bialik?

  What are you like as a girlfriend?

• 31:31Speaker 03

  I'm a really good girlfriend, but I haven't been a girlfriend in a long time. And I've been a girlfriend to bad boyfriends. And I've been a girlfriend to good boyfriends.

• 31:44Speaker 03

  I've had good luck and bad luck and no luck at all.

• 31:51Speaker 03

  And for quite a long time, I've had no luck at all. I've been celibate for quite a while now. Because I'm in the...

• 32:03Speaker 03

  I just am at the point where I really only want to be with someone that I care for.

• 32:10Speaker 03

  Phase. And now that my kids are grown, I want someone that's my companion, not just someone to have sex with. I'm kind of bored with that. So I'm in the no luck at all phase right now. But I think that that's the phase you need to be willing to be in to have the thing that I really want.

• 32:38Mayim Bialik?

  Have you had that? Have you had a great love of your life?

• 32:41Speaker 03

  I have had loves in my life, but I don't think I've had the great love of my life, no. But interestingly enough, I have met with two really powerful psychics. And one who told me everything that was going to happen to me, and it did.

• 33:04Speaker 03

  When I was very young, I met a woman who was unbelievably interesting. And she was actually Tina Turner's psychic. And she was really amazing. And she told me everything that was going to happen to me. And I was like, I thought she was a bit nuts when she told me. Because I was about 23.

• 33:26Mayim Bialik?

  What'd she say?

• 33:28Speaker 03

  I came in and sat down in front of her. And she started like her thing. And then she went, oh, my God, oh, my God. Oh, wait, I need a second. And I said, for what? She said, you know, when you pitch a tent and you have to put those things down in the corners? She's like, I have to do that. And I said, I don't understand. She said, it's different with you. She goes, I haven't experienced this since I read Tina Turner. She goes, but I just have to do this. I said, OK, why? She said, the light is so bright, I can't see anything. I just have to do this.

• 34:05Mayim Bialik?

  Was it like Pharaoh bright?

• 34:07Speaker 03

  Yeah. She said, it's like, it's like sitting in front of the sun.

• 34:11Mayim Bialik?

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• 35:40Mayim Bialik?

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• 35:47Speaker 03

  She said, do you have an experience where people can't, they get around you and they want to be around you so much and then they can't be around you? I said, yeah, all the time. She said, this is going to happen. She said, you're going to be a really big, big, big star. I said, what do you mean? She said, like Tina, you're going to be as famous as Tina Turner. And I said, no, I'm not. And she said, yeah, yeah, you're going to be as famous as Tina. It's going to be big. It's going to be global. It's going to be so, so, so big.

• 36:17Mayim Bialik?

  And you were 23.

• 36:18Speaker 03

  Yeah. I said, I just want to know if I'm going to get this TV show I went up for today. And she goes, yeah, but it's not going to matter. It's not going to be incidental. It's not going to mean anything at all. I said, yeah, but it's supposed to shoot in Australia. She goes, yeah, but it's not going to matter. And it didn't.

• 36:34Mayim Bialik?

  What was the show?

• 36:35Speaker 03

  It was some pilot for a TV show that never went anywhere.

• 36:37Mayim Bialik?

  Did you get it?

• 36:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:38Mayim Bialik?

  OK. But then what else did she say?

• 36:40Speaker 03

  And she's like, you're going to be the biggest star. This is one of the biggest stars that ever happened.

• 36:45Mayim Bialik?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 36:45Speaker 03

  Ever, ever. But that's not even going to be what it's about. It's going to be even bigger than that. It's so big. Just give me a minute. Just, just give me a minute. Just a minute. I said, am I going to meet Tina? Yeah. Yeah, you can tell her when you meet her, but it's not even that. You're going to be on stages, doing things. Big things. You're going to change the world. Just hold on. Am I ever going to be in love? She goes, I got to tell you, that's going to be hard for you. You're not going to meet your person until you're quite old, quite a bit older. And then they're going to be like you. In a way, you're going to identify with them. And then you'll see.

• 37:31Speaker 03

  But it won't be until you're really quite a bit older, almost 70. I was like, oh, no. Yeah.

• 37:38Mayim Bialik?

  That's rough. You're going to have all of the fame in the world. You're going to be one of the most famous people on the planet.

• 37:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:44Mayim Bialik?

  But one thing will elude you.

• 37:45Speaker 03

  Yes, you'll be alone.

• 37:50Speaker 03

  And, yeah. Yep.

• 37:53Mayim Bialik?

  Wow.

• 37:54Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 37:55Mayim Bialik?

  When was the other psychic you saw?

• 38:01Speaker 03

  And they said the same thing. You won't meet the person until you're almost 70.

• 38:04Mayim Bialik?

  Wow.

• 38:05Speaker 03

  Which is now?

• 38:08Mayim Bialik?

  It's us.

• 38:10Speaker 03

  Well, oddly enough, I do feel that you are a piece of my puzzle.

• 38:18Mayim Bialik?

  That's really sweet.

• 38:23Speaker 03

  I do feel you're a piece of my puzzle.

• 38:27Speaker 03

  You.

• 38:28Mayim Bialik?

  More will be revealed.

• 38:29Jonathan Cohen?

  She has two matches. She needs a third to get you. She's a matchmaker, was it?

• 38:34Mayim Bialik?

  I am a matchmaker.

• 38:35Jonathan Cohen?

  You get to have eternal life. What is the goal?

• 38:39Mayim Bialik?

  If you make three matches, you get a place in the world to come. And I've made two.

• 38:44Speaker 03

  You are a piece of my puzzle. And no one understood this because I was like, she, I have to know her.

• 38:49Mayim Bialik?

  So crazy.

• 38:50Speaker 03

  They're like, I'm like, I was like, I'm not going to do any more podcasts, but I'm going to do hers because I need to know her.

• 38:55Mayim Bialik?

  We did it.

• 38:56Speaker 03

  She is a deep connection for me. I have to know her.

• 38:59Mayim Bialik?

  I even wore a white turtleneck in your honor.

• 39:01Speaker 03

  Everybody's like, why her? I'm like, it's her. I have to know her.

• 39:05Mayim Bialik?

  We did it.

• 39:06Speaker 03

  They're like, why? I'm like, I don't know, but I have to know her.

• 39:09Mayim Bialik?

  OK.

• 39:09Jonathan Cohen?

  What does that sense? Does it come in auditory? Does it come in as a feeling?

• 39:13Speaker 03

  You're a soul contact for me.

• 39:14Mayim Bialik?

  Oh, wow.

• 39:17Speaker 03

  I just know it.

• 39:18Mayim Bialik?

  OK. We need to go to a psychic together. Got to find it out.

• 39:21Speaker 03

  It's just, I'll be able to tell you in a minute. You'll have to give me your right hand.

• 39:28Mayim Bialik?

  OK, right now?

• 39:29Speaker 03

  You can if you want to. And open your wrist.

• 39:31Mayim Bialik?

  Like this?

• 39:32Speaker 03

  This way. And you have to hold my hand this way. And put your finger this way.

• 39:36Mayim Bialik?

  OK.

• 39:37Speaker 03

  This finger this way.

• 39:46Speaker 03

  Your mother had a miscarriage, right?

• 39:48Mayim Bialik?

  I don't know. Not that I know of.

• 39:51Speaker 03

  Who's Elaine?

• 39:53Jonathan Cohen?

  It's my mother's name.

• 39:53Mayim Bialik?

  His mother.

• 39:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:58Speaker 03

  She's a piece of this.

• 40:00Jonathan Cohen?

  Do I get to be a soul contact too?

• 40:02Speaker 03

  Through Elaine. But that's the only way. That's the only part. Who has the black dog?

• 40:08Jonathan Cohen?

  I mean, my mother had a black and white dog. Her name was Maya.

• 40:13Mayim Bialik?

  Oh, similar to my name.

• 40:15Speaker 03

  Who's Chris? Chris, no. Not Chris. Who's 67?

• 40:23Mayim Bialik?

  My parents got married in 64, but I don't know anything that happened.

• 40:25Speaker 03

  Is someone 67 years old?

• 40:28Jonathan Cohen?

  Trying to think who it could be.

• 40:30Speaker 03

  Well, Elaine is a big part of us. That's all I'm getting is that we have to talk to Elaine.

• 40:35Mayim Bialik?

  Elaine. I mean, not this second, but that's pretty.

• 40:40Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 40:41Jonathan Cohen?

  It's very specific.

• 40:42Mayim Bialik?

  Yeah. Super specific.

• 40:43Speaker 03

  That's what I got. We have to talk to Elaine.

• 40:44Mayim Bialik?

  Elaine. That name just dropped in?

• 40:46Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 40:47Mayim Bialik?

  Do things just drop in?

• 40:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:49Jonathan Cohen?

  We asked you at the beginning, but I don't think we were friends enough yet, if you thought that you were psychic, but it sounds like

• 40:56Mayim Bialik?

  You're doing something.

• 40:57Jonathan Cohen?

  The way that you get information has... I mean, it's just like everything else we described, though. It's, you know, psychic, I think, has a bad association, or not even bad association, but not the right association. What it is, is a sensitivity to other information, other realms.

• 41:16Speaker 03

  Well, if we think that this is just because we don't see it, right? But our human eye is only made to see certain things. Once I had the stroke, all of a sudden, I started seeing all kinds of shit, right? I started seeing all these colors everywhere. I became... I started seeing more colors than everybody else, right?

• 41:45Mayim Bialik?

  Were they like over people's heads, like auras?

• 41:47Speaker 03

  No, squares of color everywhere, right? Just color, color, color, color. And then I started being able to see more color recognition. Like, I can see more color recognition than everybody else. And then color started almost having sound to me.

• 42:03Mayim Bialik?

  Oh, synesthesia.

• 42:04Speaker 03

  Right? And, uh, things just started to change for me, like, and I thought, oh, my color and my hearing and everything just got smeared together. Like, why did this happen? Like, why did... Like, oh, my brain got messed up. Everything got smeared.

• 42:23Mayim Bialik?

  No, it's a special ability.

• 42:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, I thought, oh, this is what happened, right? I go outside, light makes me sneeze. Like, all these different things started happening to me, right?

• 42:34Mayim Bialik?

  Your brain changed, you know?

• 42:36Speaker 03

  It changed a lot, right? But in many ways, it got... Because part of it stopped working, I realized, oh, wait a second. Logically, we only use a certain part of our brain. So what I'm gonna do is work around the broken part and start making the rest of it work. I'm gonna force myself to use the part of the brain that other people aren't using. I'm gonna wake up the rest of the brain that isn't working, and I'm gonna make it work.

• 43:06Mayim Bialik?

  Look, this is one of the explanations or, you know, explorations about how non-speaking individuals might have different abilities, telepathic abilities. Because if the brain is not so consumed with communication in a verbal sense and all of these, like, literal tangible things, it also leaves room for the rest of the brain to kind of have a different play space. 67, the number that you said. The gamatria, which is the Jewish numerology, as we call it, 67 is the numerical value, most famously, of the word bina, which means intuition or understanding.

• 43:48Mayim Bialik?

  67. You just pulled it out of the air. It's understanding or intuition.

• 43:53Speaker 03

  There we go.

• 43:55Mayim Bialik?

  Sharon Stone, where can people learn all the things that they might need to learn about you? Tell us where to find your book, all those good things.

• 44:02Speaker 03

  I wrote a book called The Beauty of Living Twice. I am writing another book at the moment that's about three quarters finished. I am looking for an editor and a publisher. So that's where I'm at right now. It is about nuns and the mafia.

• 44:21Jonathan Cohen?

  Sign me up.

• 44:24Speaker 03

  So...

• 44:25Mayim Bialik?

  Is it a fictional book?

• 44:26Speaker 03

  It's a fictional book.

• 44:26Mayim Bialik?

  Okay, got it. Amazing.

• 44:28Speaker 03

  And I want to write another memoir. So I'm kind of in, this is what I wanna do right now.

• 44:34Mayim Bialik?

  I love that. And tell people where they can find out more about your art, which we didn't even get to talk to in full, but where can people go?

• 44:40Speaker 03

  I have a studio, and you can come visit my studio. I have a website that you can go on. It's my art.

• 44:51Mayim Bialik?

  It's sharonstonestudio.com.

• 44:54Speaker 03

  You can look that up on my Instagram, and you can find your way there through my Instagram page. And I have a website. It's all for sale. I am also looking for a gallerist.

• 45:05Mayim Bialik?

  Ooh, wow.

• 45:07Speaker 03

  It's a joy for me. It's a wonderful situation. And the same thing happened to me with the art. I had this dream that my arm was a wing, and it had a shadow in it, and that I had to release the shadow. And if I let the shadow go, that I would be able to channel the same way that I channel as an actress.

• 45:35Mayim Bialik?

  Thank you so much for being here and for allowing us to have this connection with you. It was really, really special. And you've been a huge part of our lives as movie lovers. It's very... It's too much. Thank you so much.

• 45:48Speaker 03

  Thank you so much.

• 45:53Mayim Bialik?

  You know, some episodes are full of firsts.

• 45:56Jonathan Cohen?

  We have never had a guest start to tap in and see what they got about you. You've actually never had a guest ask to be set up. If someone is listening right now and they're like...

• 46:09Mayim Bialik?

  No.

• 46:10Jonathan Cohen?

  They wanna be Sharon's...

• 46:12Mayim Bialik?

  No.

• 46:12Jonathan Cohen?

  Forever.

• 46:13Mayim Bialik?

  I don't think so. There's, I mean, there's many things, you know, about this conversation that felt like, I mean, she's not spoken about orbs. And I actually, like... That's really hard to talk about. We talk to so many people who are not Academy Award nominees, you know, who have experiences that they're afraid to tell other people because they're afraid they'll be called crazy. She's never said that to anyone.

• 46:42Jonathan Cohen?

  I'm still on, she channels when she acts.

• 46:45Mayim Bialik?

  Actors are not that fascinated with people who are fascinated with us.

• 46:48Jonathan Cohen?

  I have just felt, for a long time, that the actors are channeling.

• 46:53Mayim Bialik?

  This is what happens when you send someone to film school.

• 46:56Mayim Bialik?

  Give them an MFA. They got all these questions.

• 46:58Jonathan Cohen?

  Look, there's a lot to unpack in this episode.

• 47:00Mayim Bialik?

  That was a first to do a reading, first to have somebody tap in, you know, first to...

• 47:05Jonathan Cohen?

  I mean, we've had a channeler, but we haven't had, like, someone hold your hand.

• 47:09Mayim Bialik?

  No, she was like, give me your hand.

• 47:11Jonathan Cohen?

  You were like, yeah, it has to be a right hand.

• 47:13Mayim Bialik?

  Now I'm gonna be looking for the number 67. I want it.

• 47:15Jonathan Cohen?

  The gratitude and awe practice, call back to Ellen Langer's episode. We know that there are physiological changes that happen through that practice. And how much of creativity is involved in understanding things that are not right in front of us? The sense of energy, the fact that things can have more information available to us. There's a real link to creativity.

• 47:43Mayim Bialik?

  I think what strikes me so much is, like, how many of us are having experiences like she has in life, just like medical things or like, you know, feeling things or sensing things or feeling like there's a darkness that you're letting in? How many of us are experiencing that? But it's only when, like, a celebrity talks about it, right? That we get to hear about it and talk about it. And I don't think it's that crazy, what she's talking about. I don't think that this was... And, you know, I feel like I need to hit this, you know, more on the head. We're not asking her these things because she's a celebrity. But she's a celebrity, so that's why she's sitting here. Once we find those things out, though, like, everybody has experiences like this. It's all around us. And you may not put it together that, like, oh, that boyfriend I had

• 48:26Mayim Bialik?

  or that girlfriend I had, like, that was, I was letting something in. I was trying to, you know? Those are all universal human experiences. The orbs, not so much, but you know what? It happens.

• 48:35Jonathan Cohen?

  The nature of tapping into dark things and the porousness, I think, that's really... That was, that part of this was a masterclass in energetic boundaries and understanding energy and sensing it. What also struck me was

• 48:50Jonathan Cohen?

  her whole George W. Bush commentary was before there were podcasts where everyone was criticizing everything all the time.

• 49:00Mayim Bialik?

  Yeah, it was a big deal.

• 49:01Jonathan Cohen?

  And the way that the government flagged her is really terrifying because all of a sudden, she was on a list, right? Like, you hear a lot of people say, oh, my Instagram got flagged because I put things up that were critical, and then there's a list. And now, every time I'm getting pulled over, I'm getting pulled into secondary.

• 49:19Mayim Bialik?

  Yeah, 2004. It was the Fox News headline, Sharon Stone Gets Mad at President Bush.

• 49:26Jonathan Cohen?

  But she didn't even sound mad. She just sounded like she was making a commentary.

• 49:31Mayim Bialik?

  She was 34 in 1992, is I think what it is. She was 34 when that movie came out. And yes, she's done so many amazing things. She was an extra in a Woody Allen movie. It was like one of her first, like, things. But like, to think about the impact of that movie, it was 1992.

• 49:51Mayim Bialik?

  It was, I mean, to be a 34-year-old woman with that, you know, as you're sort of like, defining like, I'm on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine moment? Yeah, why wouldn't you say that the president doesn't seem particularly competent?

• 50:08Jonathan Cohen?

  How big is the box of this podcast?

• 50:11Mayim Bialik?

  So here's the thing about you. You don't have a box.

• 50:17Mayim Bialik?

  When we are in this room, there's no box. So like, sometimes you're elsewhere, and I have to be okay with that. I am more of the Adam Driver variety or the Meryl Streep variety, if I do say so myself. I'm not flexible. Don't try and do things that I didn't know you were gonna do. And you just keep pushing that boundary. Now there's no box. You know what? You're a cube inside a sphere. That's what you're like. That's what it's like.

• 50:49Jonathan Cohen?

  You didn't know I was gonna do that? And look, you just rolled with the punches.

• 50:52Mayim Bialik?

  That's right.

• 50:53Jonathan Cohen?

  You created your own box within the box.

• 50:55Mayim Bialik?

  To use the fencing metaphor, you're like, what if there are no epehs? Do you know what that is?

• 51:02Jonathan Cohen?

  I don't know what that is.

• 51:03Mayim Bialik?

  The sword is called an epe. I think that's how you pronounce it. I've seen it written.

• 51:07Jonathan Cohen?

  Instead of... No, I would say, keep the sword, but like, that long track that they're on? I was like, forget that track. Maybe it's a circle.

• 51:13Mayim Bialik?

  Maybe we're upside down on the moon. Also, we're aliens channeling psychics.

• 51:20Mayim Bialik?

  That's how we fence.

• 51:22Jonathan Cohen?

  We're gonna tell you what my mom has to say about all this?

• 51:26Mayim Bialik?

  Who's Elaine? You're like, my mother.

• 51:29Jonathan Cohen?

  Also, she's not... That's her given name. She's Laney. She's not Elaine.

• 51:34Mayim Bialik?

  Yeah. For more of Sharon, make sure to check out the latest season of Euphoria on HBO Max. And also, she co-stars with a friend of ours, Marc Maron, in In Memoriam, which recently premiered at Trebekah. So still actively working, doing so many amazing things in addition to her painting and all of those things. Go over to Substack. We've got a ton on Substack to share from this episode, bonuses and such. Bealikbreakdown.substack.com. From our breakdown to the one we hope you never have. We'll see you next time. 67. Sorry.

• 52:14Mayim Bialik?

  Just occurred to me.

• 52:15Jonathan Cohen?

  Can't take you anywhere.