EP #14 Steve Aoki’s AMA: A DJ’s Crazy Schedule, Cryonics to Live Forever, and the Making of Pursuit of Happiness

In this “Ask Me Anything” session, Steve answers questions about his passion for performing, the morality of humans, how evolution will make us androids, and more. You will learn about: 00:41 | Steve Aoki answers life’s big questions 10:47 | The next evolutionary step: we become androids 18:14 | Steve's insurance policy: he's going to be frozen. 34:24 | How do you bring balance to your life 46:04 | What questions keep Steve Aoki up at night? Steve Aoki is a world-renowned artist, DJ, producer, and futurist. He is a grammy-nominated label executive known for his high-impact, experiential performances, NFT collections, and love for technology. _____________ Resources Learn about Steve’s Foundation Take a look at Metazoo Listen to Hiroquest Levels: Real-time feedback on how diet impacts your health. levels.link/peter Consider a journey to optimize your body with LifeForce. Learn more about Abundance360. Read the Tech Blog. Learn more about Moonshots & Mindsets. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  Life is too short. I need to just, I can't drink myself the way that I was doing at my shows every single night. So I'm not gonna have a long career. And, and my father passing away the year before that, a lot of things happened where I started thinking about longevity and health and, and, and like, you know, what is, what is this like ride that I'm on? Is it supposed to be short? And like, you know, and I'm like, no, I don't want to end this. I love my life.

• 0:28Peter Diamandis?

  And a massive transformative purpose is what you're telling the world. It's like, this is who I am. This is what I'm gonna do. This is the dent I'm gonna make in the universe.

• 0:40Peter Diamandis?

  So I want to go to, to a conversation with you, Steve, on life's big questions with Steve Aoki. So let's talk about some of the big questions. I want to get your thoughts on it, share mine, and have a little fun here. So the number one big question a lot of people ask is, how do I find happiness? And, you know, it's, if you believe that the purpose of life is to be happy, and we'll get to that other big question, like, what is the purpose of life? How do you find happiness? So what are your thoughts there?

• 1:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm, my, my biggest, I'd say my biggest track that I have to date, that goes along with what you're saying, is a remix I made for my friend back in 2009, and I still close with my, close my sets with it. And it's, the name of the song is Pursuit of Happiness. So, you know, I'm like, I'm always living that life on the journey to happiness. Like, I, like, and, and I, I find it, you know, when I look at all the different things that I do.

• 1:55Speaker 00

  I really feel like I am the luckiest man in the world because when I play a show, and this is why I'm so addicted to the stage and addicted to playing and and deal with all this, all the stuff we're talking about, like the no sleep and all those issues, is that when I hit that stage and I'm playing to people and and I see their faces are like, they're not just happy, they're exploding, they're abundant with.

• 2:22Peter Diamandis?

  They're joyful, yeah, with joy.

• 2:23Speaker 00

  Abundant with emotions and they're just like screaming it out. So vulnerable to the world, like this is the time where they want to be giving their whole selves out. It's like, this is what I do. I I want to bring happiness through music and connect with strangers in this way, and we're connecting at a very intimate level. And it's it's like the best, the best feeling in the world.

• 2:49Peter Diamandis?

  So what I hear you saying then in How Do I Find Happiness is, I I it's interesting, right? Because I do believe it. It's you find happiness by giving happiness or supporting happiness in other individuals.

• 3:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's like being finding a way where you could be of service to people, where you make you you you are bringing some level of happiness with your service. I think that's at the end of the day, like my service is music. My, this is the, you know, I always say this is the most natural way for me to be expressive. So luckily I'm able to create this music and then and then, you know, deliver it, deploy it to to people at at scale. And and I get to be a part of that, that that's delivery. So that's that's really important to me because I I would, I'm not just a producer, like, I can't just live in a studio. I just can't. I need to be out there

• 3:48Speaker 00

  connecting with people through that music. And then when I see them happy, it's like when you give a gift to someone at at, you know, and you watch them like their face light up or their eyes go bigger and they're just like, oh, my God, you got you like, it's like you are.

• 4:01Peter Diamandis?

  You caught me REM sleep. Oh, my God.

• 4:05Speaker 00

  It's such a self-interest, you know what I mean? It's like that like makes you happy.

• 4:09Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, well, I mean, it's like the purpose of the purpose of relationship. When you're really in a great relationship is to have someone to give to, not to take from. Yeah. So I mean, listen, why, why do concerts or why do your shows need to start like, you know, so late? Why can't they like start at noon and end at like 6:00 PM? I mean,

• 4:30Speaker 00

  Oh, trust me. I, I love, I love the afternoon parties. I do play the pool parties and the festivals or like, you know, I mean, they just go into the wee hours of the night, you know, and like, and if I'm headlining, I mean, that's, that's, that's how the name of the game is. Uh, forget about it with Ibiza. And in European standards of nightlife, it's like peak hours, 3:00 AM. Like I'm on a 3:30 AM in Ibiza every, every week. And that's when, that's, that's a peak hour. That's like, people have dinner at 1:00 AM and they start going out at 2:00 AM and then they, you know, they're in the club like raging face at 3:30 AM. And I have to go with them till 6:00 AM. Um, you know, it's, uh,

• 5:14Speaker 00

  it's, I, I, Peter, I wish it was 3:30 AM.

• 5:17Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 5:17Speaker 00

  I mean, PM, PM, you know?

• 5:19Peter Diamandis?

  Well, you have to, you just have to keep your brain on, on Las Vegas time. It'd be a lot better. Um, yeah. So, all right, second big life, uh, question here. One that I think about and I wonder, and I'm curious about your, your, uh, answer here. Are humans innately good or bad? Um, you know, one of the questions I have is, is these exponential technologies that we talk about, we both love and use and, and promote and so forth, as they become more and more powerful. Right? As AI is becoming, you know, the overlord and, and robotics are becoming extraordinary.

• 5:58Peter Diamandis?

  Um, you know, people are worried about it and, and so, but if human nature is good and we're going to use these technologies to make the world a better place, then that's great. But we all know there's innate evil in the world too. So I'm just curious, you know, what your thought is on this?

• 6:19Speaker 00

  I'm an optimist at heart. Like I, I'm a glass half full kind of guy.

• 6:24Peter Diamandis?

  Glass overflowing.

• 6:26Speaker 00

  Abundantly. Like I'm, I'm.

• 6:30Speaker 00

  I'm extremely positive for the future and and how technology will help optimize us and and and create more harmony, happiness, um, more bonding, more, you know, of the reasons why I believe we're human is that we are, we are connected on in the good path, in the in the path of of, you know, helping each other and and doing what we can. And I, I really sense that when when you, when you're when you're with your family. When I'm with my family, the people that I love, you'll do anything for them. You'll take a bullet for them. You'll, you know, you'll help them whatever way they can. If they're suffering or in pain, you want to support and help them. I think when you see that

• 7:14Speaker 00

  yourself and and you see like the the inner workings of your relationships with people you care and love about, uh, love, then that's just like, that's innate goodness, you know? Um, and that that that translates to people that you don't know, you know, one by one, as long as you like, remember like, you know, what you stand, of course, you know, there are, you're right, there's like, I think, a very small percentage of people that that have no empathy and and and are are like they they're disconnected, um, you know, and and they're, you know, just bad people out there, you know, whatever, whatever reason their brain makeup is, whatever, however.

• 7:56Peter Diamandis?

  So this goes to question number three on on life's big questions, which is, are you hopeful about the future? Um, given all that's going on in the world, uh, are you hopeful? Because I am, I'm I'm a, I'm a card carrying, you know, optimist and I, and my standpoint comes from the fact that the tools we have to solve problems are getting more and more powerful. At the same rate that those tools can cause problems, but I think because they're innately, you know, 10x, 50x, 100x better good people, more good people than bad, that those people are going to stay ahead and solve problems. And entrepreneurs

• 8:39Peter Diamandis?

  like you, like me, are folks who find and solve juicy problems. So are you hopeful for the future? Is that where you come out as well?

• 8:48Speaker 00

  This is why I get excited whenever you're doing something that I could be a part of, because I'm with you. I am like. I am like, you know, I, I, I look at you as one of the leaders in that's in the space of science that are doing amazing things for, you know, for humanity, just in general, you know, so I, I love what you're doing and I'm, I'm like, whenever you're doing something, I'm like, I need to know what Peter's doing because I, I'm, I'm part of the, the Diamandis camp, uh, to really use technology for the betterment of all people and find ways where we can, uh, you know, connect better, um, you know, live our lives more meaning with, with more meaning, more purpose, more love, more happiness.

• 9:33Peter Diamandis?

  Well, thank you, buddy.

• 9:34Speaker 00

  And, yeah, I really am.

• 9:36Peter Diamandis?

  I, I'm, I'm grateful for that and I, I know you're going to be, um, part of my abundance 360 show in, in March, which is cool. Tony Robbins there will have a whole slew, but the whole, the whole purpose of A360 is to help people realize using AI, robotics, 3D printing, synthetic biology, AR, VR, blockchain, all those technologies, that they can uplift humanity, that there is no problem we cannot solve, that all of us, you know, if you want to become a billionaire, help a billion people, the world's biggest problems, the world's biggest business opportunities, so go for them. And, and I think people need to be reminded, right? I mean, that's when I'm talking about mindsets and moonshots

• 10:17Peter Diamandis?

  here. It's like your mindset, if you believe the world can be made better, then you're going to go for it. And moonshots are, are what allow us to like, take on the world's biggest problems. So, anyway, um, so my, so you are hopeful and I appreciate that.

• 10:36Speaker 00

  Extremely, abundantly, as a, as a, like, I will purity about this, I gotta say abundantly.

• 10:42Peter Diamandis?

  Thank you, brother. Um, so here's a big question and I'm, I'm curious, what do you see is next for humanity? Um, and let's, let's unpack that a little bit because, I mean, humanity is, you know, depending on how you want to define Homo sapiens, right? We've been around for hundreds of thousands of years. I mean, cavemen, uh, if you look at when we were cavemen, cave humans, that was a hundred thousand years ago, right? We discovered sort of like, uh,

• 11:18Peter Diamandis?

  Agriculture like 10,000 years ago and I mean it's fairly fairly recent if you took if you took people born you know 10,000 years ago and brought them up today you'd have been going to the best universities becoming doctors lawyers we haven't genetically changed that much in 10,000 years so so but it's culture changing and technology changing so what do you what do you see next where where's humanity going?

• 11:49Speaker 00

  Well, I think eventually we'll become androids.

• 11:51Peter Diamandis?

  Okay, alright.

• 11:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, you know, we're I I see I I see us as a species using technology or robotics or whatever we can with the technology to take oh take out all like the temperamental uh you know the the problematic uh organs or things that end up killing us and replacing that with uh things that that don't wither away or degenerate so so uh quickly as a some of the things that we have in our body so I think we will become like half organic half robotic or half AI or half uh technological you know whatever that looks like you know

• 12:36Speaker 00

  I don't think it's gonna be like what what you see in like the 70s sci fi where we're like a bunch of wires inside or 80s sci fi you know which wires inside us but um maybe it's more organic tissues things like that but I I do I do see that future of of like you know merging with technology literally um you know not having phones but like they're literally just gonna be uh part of our bodies you know.

• 13:04Peter Diamandis?

  So that's so let's let's go there cuz you know I I know you're a friend of Ray Kurzweil as well and Ray will be with us at Abundance 360 this year too it's gonna be a blast we have a lot of conversations on AI we have a lot of conversations on brain computer interface I I was just doing a a podcast with Ray recently and I you know first of all he's still on schedule for AI reaching human level or greater in 2029, right? Which is like tomorrow. And then I said, when are you gonna have, when are we gonna see brain-computer interface, like high bandwidth? Like, you know, my brain is plugged into the cloud and I can, I can feel your music.

• 13:46Peter Diamandis?

  I can see, I can, I can connect with you and I'm like vibrantly, you know? And, and, and his answer is, is early to mid 2030s, right? So a decade from now. And that's pretty awesome, you know, when I become a, a cyborg in the, in the positive sense, right, of choice.

• 14:06Speaker 00

  Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, I mean, cause like we're having conversations four or five years ago, Neuralink, you know, like, like it's, like that conversation's already started in real life. That's not science fiction conversation. That's, that's actually happening now with, with a guy that has the funding and the, and the financial and infrastructural power to actually move this needle forward, you know, faster than we can imagine. So when you have that happening in real time, that 2030 mark sounds more realistic because if you don't have the conversation now, then like, you know, because it's happening now,

• 14:50Speaker 00

  it makes me realize, okay, 2030 does sound like the next, you know, evolutionary step with, you know, people that are, that wanna do that.

• 14:59Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it is fascinating. I mean, it's like, it really is just like just around the corner, right? For, I think almost everybody listening here is going to believe that they're gonna make it, you know, in the next 10 years, hopefully. And if you're not, then, then readdress and commit to getting to the next 10 years. I mean, it's, it's a crazy time coming. It's gonna be extraordinary.

• 15:24Speaker 00

  I, I, you know, just because, you know, like I have this foundation that's, that's focused on brain research, brain science, uh, and, and brain regeneration. I, I, we, we do tons of just data analysis and trying to figure out like what's out there, what's, what are the breakthroughs? Even seven years ago. There's already, you know, implants in the brain for people that that can't walk and can't move their limbs, paraplegics, that are connected to AI. And and they're using AI, not even, they don't even have to speak it, they think it and they're able to move. So the telekinetic kind of response, like what this, this, like the science fiction idea of what telekinesis is, moving with your thoughts.

• 16:09Speaker 00

  That was happening seven years ago because of technology. I mean, imagine like there's someone sitting there and he's like, move forward and the chair moves forward. Like, bring the food, like, the arm that has the apple to me. And he's he's he's able to eat without having, with just thinking that, that's like, if I was to tell you this 2022, people are like, that's not, that's science fiction, Steve, that doesn't happen. I'm like, it happened seven years ago.

• 16:34Peter Diamandis?

  It's coming. My, I have to, I have to share this story. One of my favorite images was work done, I think it was at DARPA Labs, which is the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency. And what they did was they took a monkey and they put electrodes and sensors over the motor nor over the motor cortex and the sensory cortex on the on the neocortex. And they, they took the monkey's hands and they basically strapped them down. And then they, the monkey learned, using the neural implants, to control a set of robotic hands, arms. Right? And so it was able to grab for food and feed itself using those robotic hands because its hands were incapacitated.

• 17:17Peter Diamandis?

  And then, get this, then they released the monkey's hands, like a few weeks later, and now it had four hands. Right? It had, it had the robotic hands it learned to use and its own hands. Because the brain, it's called plasticity, as you well know, the brain is able to reprogram itself on the fly. And is able to, to, you know, reassign functionality to different parts of this neocortex. So.

• 17:46Peter Diamandis?

  Amazing. So BCI is coming. Are you ready for a brain implant?

• 17:52Speaker 00

  Not yet.

• 17:53Peter Diamandis?

  Not yet. Okay.

• 17:55Speaker 00

  People, most people will be like, if anyone's ready, Steve Aoki's ready. Because I'm so obsessed with, like, you know, I mean, I'm definitely taking measures to live to this point where, where it's, it's very normal to live forever. So I have my insurance policy set up to, to freeze my, my brain.

• 18:13Peter Diamandis?

  Okay. So that's interesting. I was gonna, I was about to go there, which is cryopreservation. I was also gonna go to uploading, right? So one of the, you know, as we, if your mission is to live as long as possible, which I hope people will desire, desire that, to have an increased health span, you can do that with the kind of work that I'm working on with, um, with our rejuvenation X Prize, or, uh, you know, the work that David Sinclair and George Church are doing. And just like, I'm gonna keep this meat body operating as long as it possibly can in the highest level. Yeah, it's a meat body for sure. And

• 18:55Peter Diamandis?

  the other option is, I'm going to, you know, I think you said this, we're gonna, uh, replace organs, replace tissues, you know, basically keep on updating and upgrading. It's like, you know, when you have a car or an airplane, it, the reason it's able to go way beyond its, uh, its useful life is you're replacing the, you know, the engine, replacing the wheels, you know, it's, it's your father's old hatchet. It's got, you know, five new handles and four new, uh, four new heads on this. Um, the other option is, as you said, uh, freeze yourself. And there are two options there, whole body freezing and cephalic, just freeze your brain.

• 19:38Peter Diamandis?

  And then the other one is uploading. So let's talk about freezing yourself, let's talk about uploading.

• 19:42Speaker 00

  Right. So I am doing the full body freeze.

• 19:45Peter Diamandis?

  Okay.

• 19:46Speaker 00

  Um, and like, you know, like I talk to people about this, like, Hold on a second. You're just gonna like one day just freeze your body? No, it's like, I'm dead.

• 19:56Peter Diamandis?

  Are you wearing a bracelet? Are you wearing an Alcor bracelet?

• 19:59Speaker 00

  Uh, no, I'm not. No, is that the bracelet you need so when you die, they know to like?

• 20:03Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 20:03Speaker 00

  Make sure you fix your body. Actually, I'm not.

• 20:05Peter Diamandis?

  If you're hit by a car, um, the, there's a bracelet that you get. I don't have one. I didn't sign up yet. You did. You should get your bracelet or whatever.

• 20:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know.

• 20:13Peter Diamandis?

  That when,

• 20:14Speaker 00

  Glad you mentioned this.

• 20:15Peter Diamandis?

  That when they, when, when the, when the ambulance, the coroner signs up or shows up and like, we gotta pronounce him dead. They look at your bracelet and they say, oh, call this number and like a SWAT team comes up to find you. What do they do with you when they find you? Do you know?

• 20:32Speaker 00

  This is a really important step that I totally missed.

• 20:35Peter Diamandis?

  You missed this dude.

• 20:36Speaker 00

  I, I, it's,

• 20:39Speaker 00

  at the very least for just like my own personal, this interview or this talk with you. It's like really, it's the first thing I would do is I'm gonna be like, oh shit, I need this bracelet. I don't want to have to wear this bracelet for my life.

• 20:51Speaker 00

  But, um, yeah, I, I guess it's like, you know, like my, in my head, I'm like, well, hopefully I do die of old age in a hospital bed. You know, you know, you're right. There's like that other small percentage of, of like ways that you, you may, I might die. Uh, but I just think that at that stage I will wear the bracelet, you know, but,

• 21:11Peter Diamandis?

  For, for people to, just for those who are curious, when they, when you get frozen, um, the biggest concern, so what are you trying to do? You're trying to, you're, you're trying to freeze yourself so you can preserve as much of, well, now this is where the dichotomy comes in. Like do I freeze the body or do I freeze the brain? It's like in the future, when you're able to unfreeze yourself, hopefully the technology is far enough along where you can just grow yourself in your body. But your brain with all your memories, all of your ideas, your persona of who you are, is gonna be kinda hard. If you regrow it, it's like starting with a, you know, a clean sheet of paper. What you really wanna do is be able to like map all of the, uh, the,

• 21:56Peter Diamandis?

  Neural interactions, the 100 trillion synaptic connections, which are your memories, and be able to map those and map them onto a fresh, fresh brain. Or bring, you bring your brain out, but the, the problem is when you freeze, ice crystallizes and expands and it can rupture cells. And so what they want to do, and one of the companies is called Alcor, there are others, what they want to do is basically take out your blood, exsanguinate you and put in antifreeze that keeps these cells from rupturing. So, and they have to do it in a certain time, or, or the proteins start to degrade.

• 22:38Speaker 00

  That's, that's, that's the one, like, kind of, uh, area that I don't know how long it is. Because like, okay, let's say a point of, point of death in the hospital, they, they transport the body into, you know, cause like the way that I, when I was at Alcor, the way they explained to me is that, let's say, like finally, that's it. Um, hospital has deemed you dead, they're not gonna try to resuscitate you, it's over. They bring your body into, um, into like ice, right? And then they transport you quickly.

• 23:08Peter Diamandis?

  See, you've been prepping for this with your ice, with your ice plunges.

• 23:14Speaker 00

  Exactly. That's so funny, huh? Um, and, uh, yeah, I mean, that's, that's gonna take a long time. I don't understand, like, the, the degeneration process.

• 23:24Peter Diamandis?

  Well, what they're doing is they're slowing down the metabolism, the degeneration with the ice bath, but it's not freezing you. It's bringing you down to just above freezing, right? And slowing down the, uh, the protein degradation.

• 23:38Speaker 00

  Right. And then, you know, wherever I am in the world, they're gonna have to fly me to the facility, which is in Arizona. And, uh, I think during this transportation time is gonna be, you know, not ideal because when they put me in the, in the Kelvin degree, negative 5,000, whatever it is, it's like where.

• 23:58Peter Diamandis?

  Like negative 70, it's like liquid nitrogen level.

• 24:01Speaker 00

  Yeah. Once they put you there, then, um, you're good. But, uh, on the degeneration process, you know, but like, that transportation time's gotta be seemingly 24 hours plus, you know? So, I don't know how they, how much that really does affect your, the degradation of your brain.

• 24:23Speaker 00

  You know, from uh reanimating it or whatever, you know, however they call it.

• 24:27Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, um, I think now, just to be clear for folks, there've been, I don't know, probably hundreds, maybe thousands of people uh who have been put into cryopreservation. And it might be individuals who've got, you know, a really bad cancer or some disease that's uncurable and and they pass. And the hope is that, you know, you're gonna put money into a bank account that's gonna accumulate interest over time, it's gonna pay for the the cryopreservation storage costs. And then at some point in the future, I don't know if it's a, is it a prize that like whoever brings back Steve Aoki to full functional health will win ten million dollars, you know, and and and the money's, the money's sort of like hanging out for the person who says they can, they can bring you back.

• 25:13Peter Diamandis?

  Uh, but hopefully someone brings you back. There is a great science fiction book. I don't know if you had a chance to read science fiction. Um, it's called uh uh We Are Bob. And it's about a guy, it's a, it's a four book series and I love it.

• 25:29Peter Diamandis?

  Um, I'll have to put it in the show notes.

• 25:30Speaker 00

  Because it's, it's, it's like talking about what, you know, people like myself are gonna have to deal with.

• 25:35Peter Diamandis?

  Well, it's, it's a guy, it's a guy who signs up for Alcor and he's leaving this con, this science fiction conference and he gets hit by a car. And he wakes up like fifty years later and he's disembodied and his brain is in an AI. And um and his AI, his AI brain is being put onto a starship. And he is powering what's called a von Neumann machine. Have you ever heard of a von Neumann machine? So the idea is uh you're, there's a starship that's going out, it's being powered by this AI brain and its mission is to go out and to replicate itself. And so this starship repli, is able to go to asteroid belts and planets and other star systems.

• 26:20Peter Diamandis?

  And it's able to replicate itself using all of the planetary materials and nanotechnology. And it replicates his brain, he's, his name is Bob. And they create a, a second starship. And the other one is called Bob too. So it's like We Are Bob, it's, it's, there are thousands of Bobs out in the store. And it's just, it's an amazing, you'll, it's a, yeah, listen to the audio, listen to the audible of it. Um, it's, it's extraordinary. It's a great book. You even love it.

• 26:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, I actually, you know, on that note, you know, I I've been talking to my team about because like they're they they're they're just like, whoa, this is the weirdest thing we've ever heard. I don't think it's ever really been done, but um, you know, obviously, when when when I pass at that time, there's gonna be an estate. Right. And then there's gonna be like my descendants that will will get it. So if let's say I come back like your technology hits, let's say like a hundred years from now, you know, so there's like two descendants past me. And they don't know me anymore. Like they're like, you know, they they don't care about me, you know, my my son might care about me or my daughter might care about me, but not my son's son's son.

• 27:33Speaker 00

  Or, you know, daughter's sons, whatever it might be. And when they're like, oh, yeah, we have this technology, bring back

• 27:39Peter Diamandis?

  Grandpa's sickle.

• 27:41Speaker 00

  Grandpa's sickle. They're like, this guy, they're like, and when he comes back, he's gonna take your money because that's the money he made that you're living off of. They'd be like, don't bring him back. I would keep this for myself. And um, so I so that's why we're creating like a separate

• 27:58Peter Diamandis?

  Trust.

• 27:59Speaker 00

  Kind of fun. Yeah, trust.

• 28:01Peter Diamandis?

  The bring bring Steve back trust.

• 28:04Speaker 00

  And and then that trust is is like not gonna get touched by my descendants. So I have to have like this like that way, like I come back, I'm not broke.

• 28:15Speaker 00

  I'm like back in this this new world. I'm like, I have no money because I'm fighting in a lawsuit with my descendants.

• 28:22Peter Diamandis?

  You'll have to go back on tour.

• 28:25Speaker 00

  Have you got to go back on tour and like

• 28:26Peter Diamandis?

  Three hundred years old.

• 28:30Speaker 00

  I'm like, I just hope I'm not like in this like eighty five year old body or a hundred year old body where I'm like, it's like barely functioning. And I'm like, I just I die again. I come back, you know, but I mean, that obviously like it'll be different. Like I'm sure, you know, like you said, you regenerate uh, or you like You upload your brain into like this new skin or whatever.

• 28:54Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, well, I mean, the other way besides freezing yourself is uploading, which is you're going to map all of your thoughts and your memories and you're going to you're going to then upload it to a quantum computing, quantum computer. That's what typically the science fiction books do. And yes, I learn everything I learned from science fiction. Well, not really, but a lot. And so here's the here's the question, right? You're sitting there, you're you're you put yourself in the machine. The machine maps your brain, just like Dr. Amen did. And it's mapping, you know, 100 billion neurons, your 100 trillion synaptic connections, all of your thoughts, all of your memories get uploaded to this machine. And you hear this booming voice that sounds like you and it says, Steve,

• 29:35Peter Diamandis?

  I have been uploaded. I now have all of your memories, all of your thoughts. I am you. You can kill yourself. You can kill yourself now. You're immortal with me.

• 29:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, that's scary. I see like it's scary like the idea that you've cloned yourself and like now you're competing with your clone. You know, because like if you give that that clone, you know, this uh this feeling of like, you know, like self-awareness. Then it's then it's going to be like, yeah, okay, you you mortal, I'm immortal. So like you you could just die off and all will just live forever. And and like the mortal side of me is like, no, I want to, I I don't want to die off. I still like, you know, uh, I I I need to experience things, you know, like so. You don't want your clone to live as you. You want you to live as you. So it's that's.

• 30:26Peter Diamandis?

  That's in the we are in the we are Bob scenario, there are multiple versions of you, but then one of you dies. And then the other one goes on. Anyway, okay, we're going to change this subject. We're going to go to another, we're going to go, we're going to go to another of life's big questions. So um we talked about what's next for humanity. We're we're becoming cyborgs. We're becoming uh uh, I think a multi-planetary species, I think is very cool. I think we're going to live in the virtual world. That will be super cool, right? Imagine being able to be.

• 30:56Peter Diamandis?

  Connected and digitally living in a full, fully virtualized world. Um, I think that will be cool. Um, so here's my question, going back to one of the, one of the things we talked about on our last podcast, which is, uh, purpose. And my question is, does everyone have a purpose?

• 31:17Speaker 00

  I, I can't speak for everyone, you know? I know that like, yeah, for, for me, I mean, cause you know, everyone's got different brain makeup of what, what is fulfilling for them, right? So for me, like I, the, that purpose is so important for me to seek out and, um,

• 31:35Speaker 00

  you know, just like I was saying before, like, you know, I, I found it early on at a very young age.

• 31:42Peter Diamandis?

  As, as did I, yeah.

• 31:45Speaker 00

  Uh, like for me, my purpose was always like, you know, first like be finding this expression to, uh, finding a way to, to voice all these angst and feelings and all this, you know, the teenage turbulence of what you go through being a kid, like figuring out life. And I was able to do that through music. So I was lucky because I couldn't figure out how to do that, you know? I was like, hard time to socialize and through the traditional settings of how kids socialize and express themselves through sports and things like that. It was difficult for me to do that there. So I, I, I found it in music and it like was this, like complete explosion of everything coming out. And I'm like, oh my God, this is,

• 32:28Speaker 00

  this is, this is what I want to do for the rest of my life. You know, like that, that moment was really important for me.

• 32:33Peter Diamandis?

  The combination of a true passion that gives you joy and the ability to be in service to other individuals at the same time.

• 32:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:44Peter Diamandis?

  Right? And, and something that you feel that you uniquely, uniquely have. So, you know, I mean, I think everybody should, you know, to answer that question myself, I do think that everybody can find a purpose. And it could be to be a great mom or a great dad, or it can be to, you know, to be in, when you're in service of other people. I think if you're not being in service of other people. It's a little bit of an emptier life. I mean, doesn't have to be, you know, a purpose that puts a dent in the universe, which I like to ask people to do. I do like people to dream bigger and think bigger because it makes the world a better place. But I do think everybody can find a, a purpose. And I think, I do believe so.

• 33:26Speaker 00

  I think, I really think it's exactly like along, along what you're talking about. The, the purpose can be something that, that you might not think is a very big thing, but it gives you joy. You know, like it's, you know, like, like when I, just like the idea of what we were talking about before. It's like when you give something to someone and you see their reaction, uh, whatever it might be. It's like you are, you're creating that, that feeling of that, that, that transaction, whatever it is of like, whatever you're giving them. And it's giving them happiness or giving them joy. That's, that's a small purpose. You know, what, you know, even those little moments, they all add up. So it's like,

• 34:10Speaker 00

  just like what you're saying, it's being of service, finding that. And, and whatever it is that, of the service that it is, however way you deliver it, or however way you, you, you give it out. I think that's what, that's what people need to find.

• 34:24Peter Diamandis?

  All right. Another big question, pal, for, for someone like yourself. And, and me to some degree too, but how do you balance money and fame and happiness?

• 34:40Peter Diamandis?

  You know, I mean, all of these things are, uh, they, they pull at you and they, um, they drive us in different ways. Do you, have you thought about this? I mean, and you can even add health onto that, right? Because you're trading, you're trading health and you're trading, uh, you know, uh, starting family. And I mean, so how do you balance all of these things? I mean, there's, there's money, there's health, there's family, there's, uh, fame, there's, you know, uh, I said money as well. I mean, how do you, how do you think about balancing all these things?

• 35:19Speaker 00

  I've realized. As I I I be like, I'm extremely like, I definitely am like a very alpha. Alpha human like I I'm out there all the time doing what I need to do like whatever is that that my. Purpose is or whatever it is that like I my passions are I'm pushing that forward for sure and I I think this is a large part of. The success that I was able to make up to this point in my life uh and that also it it. It shows it also like has shown me that I'm very extroverted. You know, like I can be in public places and things like that, but as I became more famous. I'm very, very selective of my extrovert nature or my, you know.

• 36:04Speaker 00

  You know, that that kind of thing. So I've re I I've become. Kind of like an extrovert introvert in a way and um because of the fame, I think if you know, obviously, when when. When you're more noticeable. I only want to have like those moments to shine in controlled si- situations, so I don't. Just roll around as I used to um. I know that's how I deal with. Uh, just being more noticed or having this kind of influence. Um, I'm just very selective. When when it comes to like money, um, I definitely look at it more like I am now in a position.

• 36:46Speaker 00

  To help others and to be able to afford to do all these interesting things that I can do. To biohack, to to try out these different like new discoveries of uh in in science that I that that I have access to because of my my influence. Right? I'd be able to connect with someone like you, Peter and um, but also. Test out all these different things because if I could test it out, then I could share it with others, you know, if it works for me. And um, you know, once I was able to have the influence was I was able to have, you know, some sort of financial infrastructure. Myself, that's when I created the foundation, you know, like that's where I can actually. Do a lot of work and help there.

• 37:31Peter Diamandis?

  This is less of a big question in life and more.

• 37:37Peter Diamandis?

  As people get successful in life, uh, things go sideways sometimes for them. They think too much of themselves. They, uh, they think it's their way or the highway. Some of them just, you know, drive at a hundred miles an hour into a brick wall, you know, whether it's, it's drugs or, or relationships or whatever the case might be. I mean, um, what's your, what's your advice? I mean, one of the best pieces of advice I got in this, in, in the world of success is be careful who you piss off on the way up because you're going to meet them on the way back down.

• 38:14Speaker 00

  That's so true. I mean, that's, that's like the reality of any level of success is that in anything, in the stock market, in, uh, in your relationships, in any level of success, it's never just a moonshot up. It's not like this. Life isn't like this. It's like, life is like this and goes here, then it goes down, then it goes down again, and it goes up. And then, you know, in the end, like the, in the macro sense, you're up farther hopefully than you were, you know, 10 years ago. But it's like the journey is just like all over the place. It's never like, it might go like this for a while and you're like, holy shit, what's going on?

• 39:00Speaker 00

  But be prepared for the down 100%. And, um, I think by the fourth or fifth down, you just get it, you know? You just have to survive to that point, right? Because on the up, right? That's when like, you're like, whoa, I could do anything. I could do drugs. I could like embellish in, in this vice. I could do this, this, this, this. And like everything's, you know, and of course, like, that's when people like do what you're talking about, like drive themselves right into a brick wall going a hundred miles an hour because they just think that they're invisible.

• 39:35Peter Diamandis?

  Yes.

• 39:36Speaker 00

  You know?

• 39:36Peter Diamandis?

  And the answer is, is they're, they're not.

• 39:39Speaker 00

  Exactly. I've been lucky where. Yeah, I I've, you know, I used to drink myself like crazy when I would DJ and it was just part of the show. And I had, I had to make a, you know, a cold turkey decision that like, it's not sustainable. Uh, and that was back in two thousand nine, but it it that that all. There was all something heavy and traumatic that happened to me around that time when my my best friend DJ, my best friend that's a DJ, he passed away from a drug overdose and um, it had nothing to do with alcohol for me, but it was just a wake up call being like, well, life is too short. I need to just, I can't drink myself the way that I was doing at my shows every single night that.

• 40:22Speaker 00

  It's like, I'm not going to have a long career and and uh, my father passing away the year before that, a lot of things happened where I started thinking about longevity and health and and um, and and like, you know, what is, what is this like ride that I'm on? Is it supposed to be short and like, you know, and I'm like, no, I don't want to end this. I I love my life.

• 40:43Peter Diamandis?

  Yes, exactly. Life is amazing. Yeah.

• 40:46Speaker 00

  I love living and I'm so lucky to even exist. And to do what I was doing, like I'm like, I I won like the greatest tier of a lottery just to be able to do what I'm doing and be alive.

• 40:57Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, and be alive, be alive at this period of time in human history.

• 41:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like when you read the history books of all the other periods like, you know, it's just how things were. I'm just like, God, I'm just so lucky. So like, all these things were happening where I started underst- understanding what gratitude really means and how to deploy, deploy that and to to live off that in a way that's meaningful and sustainable.

• 41:24Peter Diamandis?

  Yes.

• 41:25Speaker 00

  Sustainability, like that, that understanding of it is so important to realize. On like, okay, so once you understand sustainability in your life, then I think real growth can happen on what you need to to like kick out, what you need to focus on. I think mainly what you need to kick out, you know?

• 41:42Peter Diamandis?

  Uh, it's uh, Martine Rothblatt. Do you know Martine? Uh, she's amazing. Um, she's built six, seven moonshots. Um, I have to read this quote she sent me. Uh, she's a One of the most brilliant CEOs, she cured her daughter's pulmonary hypertension fatal disease by finding a drug, building a $10 billion biotech company. She's 3D printing lungs and turning pig organs into human organs.

• 42:17Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 42:19Peter Diamandis?

  And, yeah, she is incredible. And you ready for this? And you said about doing less, she says, "The difference between successful and very successful people is that the former say no to most things and the latter say no to almost everything."

• 42:37Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 42:40Peter Diamandis?

  Powerful, huh?

• 42:40Speaker 00

  I love, I love that. I really love that. And you know what's interesting? I'm saying no to a lot these days. I used to say yes to everything.

• 42:50Peter Diamandis?

  Thanks for saying yes to this.

• 42:51Speaker 00

  Peter, I'm like, the problem is with you. I'll say yes to everything.

• 42:57Peter Diamandis?

  Thank you.

• 42:58Speaker 00

  Because I'm on Team Diamandis. I am Team Diamandis to the, to forever.

• 43:02Peter Diamandis?

  Thank you, buddy. Well.

• 43:03Speaker 00

  I'm with you.

• 43:04Peter Diamandis?

  I will be careful with that. I will not abuse that superpower. So there's a couple of, you know, I asked my, my audience for some questions and we have a few minutes for, and a few AMA questions. And there are a few that I, I am curious. And, and so I consider you a fellow futurist, for lack of a better term, singulitarian, someone interested in, in technology and such. What, what got you interested in exponential tech and futurism?

• 43:37Speaker 00

  Ray Kurzweil.

• 43:38Peter Diamandis?

  Okay. So talk about that.

• 43:39Speaker 00

  Two, two, two words.

• 43:40Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 43:41Speaker 00

  Ray Kurzweil.

• 43:42Peter Diamandis?

  I love those, those words.

• 43:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, like after my father passed away in 2008, I, I went on this, this journey and, you know, kind of understanding what cancer was and. Um, and that led me down to just, just overall mindfulness, how, how to be preventative of any, not just any cancer, but like all disease. And, and coupling that with the fact that I'm a sci-fi junkie, you know, um, I love science fiction. It's my favorite genre. And, and I, I mean, I think.

• 44:14Peter Diamandis?

  So I'm gonna send you, I'm gonna send you a link to the, uh, to the, uh, We Are Bob book.

• 44:19Speaker 00

  Yes, please.

• 44:20Peter Diamandis?

  Okay.

• 44:21Speaker 00

  I, I, I think the reason why is because it's, it's just humans just thinking of like, what can we do? You know, what are the things that could possibly happen? And in some of those conversations and, and stories, uh, there are, are very inquisitive minds and incredible people like Peter Diamandis and Ray Kurzweil that are like, let's try to do one of these things or two of these things and, and find others that, that actually can and have the money, have the, the science backgrounds, have, you know, and have the scalability to, to, to grow these things. It's a real, real life situation.

• 44:59Speaker 00

  So, um, then obviously I found Ray Kurzweil along this road to learning more about health and, and, and more of the radical things that are exciting is like, what can we do in science fiction that's, that, that can become a science fact? And, um, I just dove into all his books and I'm like, wow.

• 45:19Peter Diamandis?

  Yes, wow.

• 45:21Speaker 00

  I, I, I want, I want, I'm, I'm a team Kurzweil. I actually met him. I, I flew up to, to, um, the Bay Area and I, I hung out with him in his apartment. We started toying on his Kurzweil keyboard. Uh, and, and we talked about the future together and I create a whole music series called Neon Future. I put him on a song, put, put Ray Kurzweil on a song. Uh, so like he, he has, just like I'm an author and I'm also a musician. Ray Kurzweil is also, he's an artist, he's an artist. And Peter, you know, I'm gonna do a song with you sometime.

• 45:56Peter Diamandis?

  I'm, I'm ready, I'm ready for my neon future whenever you're ready for it, buddy.

• 46:02Speaker 00

  Um, yeah.

• 46:02Peter Diamandis?

  All right. So next question, uh, asked, what, what are you curious about? What are you most curious about? Like, what do you find yourself thinking about, wondering about right now more than anything else?

• 46:11Speaker 00

  I mean, right now, the, the, the thing that's on top of mind is. I need to figure out the hack for myself to get more REM sleep. That's so I'm trying everything I possibly can. So like the most inquisitive, most like driven to try all these different techniques, whether I'm talking to Matt Walker and and having him having this diagnostic check with him. Uh, to doing, you know, I do blood work on monthly. And and following up on all my blood analysis and taking the right supplements and things like that, just, you know, balancing that out. Neurofeedback, um, and and, you know, just

• 46:53Speaker 00

  just fine tuning the, the, you know, the different, you know, different parts of my brain that that need to need to get honed in on. Um, and, you know, obviously speaking with Dr. Amin, as I, as we talked about before, uh, on my brain. Uh, but I just like, just, I just want to hack my brain and and

• 47:12Peter Diamandis?

  In a good, in a good way.

• 47:15Speaker 00

  Yes, you know, in a way to where I want to get normal amount of REM sleep and then, you know, everything's small, right? It's like for me, it's like, I want to go in the details. Um, and that that's my detail right now is is is understanding sleep. This is a man who has, I'll sleep when I'm dead on the back of my neck. So I'm like, it's a complete like change of of mind.

• 47:36Peter Diamandis?

  Last question here, pal, and it's a, it's a deep one. What drives you to create? And we may have discussed this already in one of your answers, but it's worth saying again. So you're, I, I would say you are driven to create.

• 47:51Speaker 00

  Okay, yes, I, I think it, just like I was saying before with the live shows, it's it's my love. It's, it's like my, it's where my heart opens up and connects with so many people. It's like, it's like this incredibly.

• 48:08Speaker 00

  Uh fulfilling feeling that never ever gets old. It's always new. It's always fresh and it it gives me so much life. So when I have that, that's always gonna be the goal, right? So whenever I make music, it's how do I enrich that?

• 48:26Peter Diamandis?

  And and by the way, you create on many levels, right? It's not just music. You also create on companies. I mean, that's if I had to say what my creative area is, it's creating in as an entrepreneur, right? And that's also for you too, right?

• 48:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. So it's interesting because when I when I'm in these other businesses, as we're talking about outside of music, there is a different drive and a different uh uh reason for my pursuits. Like uh, I'd say, you know, one thing I could share with you here is that, you know, since COVID, I started a company. Um, it's it's a trading card game company.

• 49:03Peter Diamandis?

  Tell me the name.

• 49:05Speaker 00

  It's called Metazoo.

• 49:06Peter Diamandis?

  Yes.

• 49:06Speaker 00

  Um, I I'm a co-founder of it. I wouldn't I wouldn't say I started. I'd say like more literally, I'm a co-founder. There's a uh this guy named Mike Waddell, who actually started the company uh from a seventeen thousand dollar Kickstarter project. And after he launched it, I joined in uh shortly thereafter. And because I I'm so into cards, I'm like big, I was a big Pokemon card guy. I love sports cards. I love collectible culture. And uh and I was scanning and I was really, as an entrepreneur, looking for the next startup company in the space that I could join and help build. And um I looked into their IP and I was like, this is a goldmine IP because it takes

• 49:51Speaker 00

  uh the idea of cryptids. Cryptids are like Bigfoot.

• 49:55Peter Diamandis?

  Oh, yes, yes.

• 49:57Speaker 00

  You know, like

• 49:57Peter Diamandis?

  So they're well well estat- well established, but no one owns the IP.

• 50:01Speaker 00

  Exactly. But we can make our own interpretation of Bigfoot.

• 50:06Peter Diamandis?

  And own that.

• 50:06Speaker 00

  The Metazoo Bigfoot, and we own that.

• 50:08Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah.

• 50:09Speaker 00

  And we could write a whole story that involves all of them. Let's give you example, there's like twenty million.

• 50:15Peter Diamandis?

  The Avengers of uh of those, yeah.

• 50:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, right. Like twenty million people that are obsessed with Bigfoot, right? There's also like maybe ten million people that are obsessed with Chupacabra. And then there's, you know, and so forth, you know, and Santa Claus and whatever. We're gonna take all of them, create our interpretation of them and create a whole world and build a entire company around it. And I was like, this one, I really believe will be a billion dollar company because it has the legs to do that. Cause everybody has so much meat on the bone. We started a seventeen thousand dollar Kickstarter project. That was the the start of the company. In sixteen months, we've already grossed over fifty million dollars.

• 50:57Peter Diamandis?

  Whoa.

• 50:58Speaker 00

  Fifty million dollars.

• 50:59Peter Diamandis?

  That's insane.

• 51:01Speaker 00

  Cardboard. And uh the community is so rich. This is the the secondary market is is booming. It's um like to give you some crazy numbers, Peter, just because I know as an entrepreneur, you like to like hear about these um numbers and how we sell.

• 51:19Peter Diamandis?

  Yeah, sure.

• 51:20Speaker 00

  You know, we started these boxes, right? We sold twenty, we made twenty-five hundred boxes uh at fifty dollars a box. We started that out with a seventeen thousand dollar Kickstarter project. At at the height, they went from fifty dollars a box. We sold out of those like after like about three months. It took us some time. At the height of what they were selling in the secondary market, they were going for about twelve thousand.

• 51:44Peter Diamandis?

  Whoa.

• 51:45Speaker 00

  So I don't know what the multiplier is on that, but this it's like gotta be a two hundred and something X.

• 51:49Peter Diamandis?

  Wow. And this was during, this was during covid as well?

• 51:53Speaker 00

  This is during covid.

• 51:54Peter Diamandis?

  Which is everybody, everybody's looking for that kind of a, you know, yeah.

• 51:59Speaker 00

  We're selling out, um we we did like a fifty thousand box drop of like, I don't, I like, you know, fifty or a hundred dollars. I forgot what the price was. Sold that that sold those boxes out in in in literally twenty seconds, fifty thousand boxes.

• 52:13Peter Diamandis?

  Insane.

• 52:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, we just sold, um now I've created my own brand called Hero Quest, which is my my next musical project series. I have Neon Future for Four series. This is my new one. And we created a whole character set. Underneath Metazoo, we just dropped, you know, these, these packs that you could buy online. Uh, we just dropped that, uh, sold, you know, over thirty thousand of them in thirty minutes. You know, and I was like, just, it's, it's just insane to see the numbers and how, uh, like, how healthy the secondary market is on, on the products and how, you know, the, the, and all, and all the Comic Cons and all these different conferences where we thrive.

• 52:56Speaker 00

  Uh, the cosplay is, is incredible. People getting the tattoos on their bodies that are like real diehard fans. Um, and, you know, we've been around for sixteen months, you know, it's, uh, we have a long road to go. And, um, I really do believe that this company has, has a, a strong chance to hit the billion dollar mark, billion dollar mark that were, that, that, that I, I saw sixteen months ago. So.

• 53:24Peter Diamandis?

  Amazing.

• 53:24Speaker 00

  That, that's been an exciting endeavor for sure.

• 53:27Peter Diamandis?

  Amazing, amazing, amazing. One more fan question, uh, that, uh, I need to ask, cause I'm curious too. Uh, what's the story behind, uh, behind Pursuit of Happiness?

• 53:39Speaker 00

  Um, well, you know, like I, I remember, this is two thousand nine when I did that remix. And two thousand eight, I did a tour with my friend A-Track. We did a, a US tour. It was a Dimak Full School tour. And he brought out a new artist of his that, that he was, um, supporting on his label. And it was Kid Cudi and they, uh, he dropped a song called Day and Night at the time. And this is his first tour. So we, we were like on this tour together and me and Scott, uh, his name is Scott. Um, we just became really good friends on that tour. And since then, we, we stayed friends. And he's like, hey, I'm dropping, uh, an album and I have this song. Call Pursuit of Happiness, I'd love for you to remix it.

• 54:24Speaker 00

  And of course, I'm like, anything for you, Scott. Like, of course, I want to do anything for him. And he's, he was just on the rise. He was just like about to just pop. And I heard the song and MGMT and Ratatat on there, and I love MGMT. Um, and I love Ratatat as well. Um, so it's like got this indie flair to it already. It's really, really kind of like, it was a very kind of an emo, dark song, but like with this hopeful lyric. And musically, it was like, it was just, it was just slowed down. So I'm like, I have to rave this out. So I sped it up like from, I think the tempo is like a hundred and something BPM and I, I just punched it up to one twenty-eight BPM, which is the, the typical, uh,

• 55:07Peter Diamandis?

  Rave, rave.

• 55:08Speaker 00

  You know, yeah, rave tempo, electro tempo, EDM tempo. It's a tempo that I live in. And, um, and I'm like, I'm gonna turn this into a festival banger. Like, that was the goal, because the lyrics are so powerful. Like, when you, when you hear Cuddy sing those lyrics, I, I was only imagining the whole crowd singing it, which is what happened. Like, everyone knows the lyrics to Pursuit of Happiness at all my shows around the world. Literally, it's a global.

• 55:37Peter Diamandis?

  Phenomenon.

• 55:37Speaker 00

  It's such a, yeah, it's like a, it's a cultural song. It really is a cultural song. And, um, and, you know, I put on these raves, rave synths on the track. It like, it launches with that. Then it goes into his, his lyrics. Then it goes right into this heavy drop that makes everyone dancing. And, um, and interestingly enough, uh, when we dropped that remix, it didn't really hit. It was like, it was cool, but it was like, yo, this is great. This is really good. We did it, you know? But like, it didn't really break culture until three years later. There's a movie called Project X that came out. And Project X is like the definitive party movie of all time.

• 56:21Speaker 00

  I literally, the most iconic, classic, like, high schoolers that, that, that took over a house when the parents were gone, like this scenario that every high school kid dreams about. Parents are gone, let's throw the craziest party. Known to mankind and actually it's it was a based on this uh these these kids that did that in Australia and they like that the whole block like like was went crazy like this cops showed up and everything anyways like it's called project accent and like all these kids through this party and at the pinnacle of this movie they they dropped my remix of pursuit

• 57:00Speaker 00

  of happiness and it turned it into a music video inside the movie of the most important part of like the height of this party scene and after that movie dropped the world her finally heard pursuit of happiness and after that is it was literally a cultural song in the history books.

• 57:21Peter Diamandis?

  It's amazing and it's incredible what tips things right it it's like yeah I mean that was I love looking at those tipping moments it's like you know I hate to say like covid tipped zoom into like a phenomenon around the world.

• 57:34Speaker 00

  Yes, absolutely.

• 57:36Peter Diamandis?

  And I look forward to you and I building a company together that's that'll be a fun conversation will continue in the in the days ahead. Steve, listen, thank you, my friend, for your your unbridled enthusiasm and and purpose and passion and excited to be doing things with you, excited to have you join us at eight three sixty in March, excited for helping spread the gospel of of brain science and health through your foundation and excited for the REM sleep I'm gonna gift you.

• 58:12Speaker 00

  Please, thank you, Peter. I'd love to talk with you.

• 58:17Peter Diamandis?

  All right, brother. Be well. Have a beautiful day.