#2291 - Bert Kreischer

Bert Kreischer is a stand-up comic, podcaster, and actor. He's the host of "The Bertcast" podcast and YouTube cooking program "Something's Burning." He's also the co-host of the "2 Bears, 1 Cave" podcast with fellow comedian Tom Segura. Watch his latest special, "Lucky," on Netflix. www.bertbertbert.com Go to ExpressVPN.com/ROGAN to get 4 months free! Save $20 on your first subscription of AG1 at drinkag1.com/joerogan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:02Joe Rogan?

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:14Speaker 01

  Thank you, Joe.

• 0:15Joe Rogan?

  Always good to see you, my man.

• 0:16Speaker 01

  It's always good seeing you, man. I always say, like, you give the best hugs.

• 0:22Speaker 01

  I got the UFC the other night when I saw you.

• 0:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 0:24Speaker 01

  And you came up, you just wrap it up. I love it. I'm a hug guy, too.

• 0:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 0:28Speaker 01

  I think it shows your emotion.

• 0:30Joe Rogan?

  I love a real hug, yeah. A real hug where someone loves you.

• 0:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 0:34Joe Rogan?

  You know? You know I love you, so I give you a love hug.

• 0:37Speaker 01

  I know you love me. I know you love me.

• 0:39Joe Rogan?

  We've been friends for a long time, brother.

• 0:41Speaker 01

  I know.

• 0:42Joe Rogan?

  Really have. It's nice, like, having friends that you've been friends with for just decades, you know?

• 0:49Speaker 01

  I always say, I've said this before, but I always say, you're like, I never had a brother growing up. And you've always been pretty honest with me, the way a big brother would be. And you've always come from a place of love. I remember the whole reason, my whole, I was doing nothing and fucking nothing. I'm sitting in the backstage of the store with you and you looked at you, you looked just, you go, Tommy's doing theaters. And I said, okay. And you need to be doing theaters. I was like, okay. And you're like, you need a Netflix special, you need to get one. I was like, all right, Joe, how am I supposed to do that? And you go, be undeniable. And you just walked away. And I fucking was like, that's the kind of mentorship you look for in a friend. That's who you want to be around. Surround yourself with great white sharks and people think you're a great white shark.

• 1:30Joe Rogan?

  Well, you were always really fun and really funny, but you were always doing these Travel Channel shows.

• 1:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:36Joe Rogan?

  And this is what drove me crazy. I remember the day, we've talked about it before, but I remember the day. I was in the Comedy Store and I was calling you from the main room and you were on a motorcycle in Vietnam.

• 1:50Joe Rogan?

  And I think you were drunk and...

• 1:52Speaker 01

  I was drunk and hot. Two things you're not supposed to be on a motorcycle, no helmet, in flip flops.

• 2:00Joe Rogan?

  Which is, by the way, it's a fun way to catch somebody. When you call someone and you're gonna go on stage in like 20 minutes. I'm just checking in on you, see what's going on, and you're on a fucking motorcycle in Vietnam, I'm laughing. But then I was like, dude, you really need to dedicate yourself to stand up. Like, this is a trap. It's a velvet prison. These TV shows are a velvet prison. And when you're on the Travel Channel, you're not even getting, well, you're making great money, right? But you're not getting, I can retire now money.

• 2:26Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:27Joe Rogan?

  There's no fuck you money. It's I can live well money. You know, it's a great job. But it's one of those jobs where at a certain point in time, you gotta go, okay, I have to jump ship. Like, you know, I can't keep doing this. Like, this is, uh, this is gonna fuck up everything else I'm doing.

• 2:42Speaker 01

  It's hard to pull that trigger too, because like, like with kids and a family and a house.

• 2:46Joe Rogan?

  Yep, yep, yep.

• 2:47Speaker 01

  And you go, okay, it's not great money, but it's good money.

• 2:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:50Speaker 01

  And the road was not great money, and I remember you saying, you need a Netflix special. You said, I remember you saying that to me on that motorcycle. I'm sitting, I pulled, I had headsets in, I was listening to The Doors, uh, Magic Caravan, Spanish Caravan. And I was flying, I was high, there were oxen on either side of me, the sun was setting. And you're like, dude, this is who you are. Fuck that Travel Channel bullshit, get away from it. You need to focus on stand up and your podcast.

• 3:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:14Speaker 01

  And I was like, yeah. And you're like, you're the fucking machine. If you don't talk about this on stage, then you're not doing yourself, you're doing yourself a disservice.

• 3:21Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's certain people that like, you know their full potential, because when they're with you, they're completely relaxed. And, you know, everyone's just having a great time, and you get to see them at their best. And when you're crying, laughing, just hanging out, talking to a guy, you're like, this guy's got it. He's just gotta figure out how to get rid of all the other shit in his life and focus on that. Cause you were always so fucking funny. And I was like, how is this guy doing these shows where he's letting people hurt him and all this? Like, when you were doing Hurt Bird, I was like, what are you doing? Don't get hurt. And then... I just that mu- I also, I'd gone through it with Fear Factor. Like Fear Factor was a great job, don't get me wrong. Very happy that I got it, it was wonderful, it gave me fuck you money.

• 4:06Joe Rogan?

  It gave me the ability to do whatever I want after that.

• 4:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:09Joe Rogan?

  But it was a thing where I was like, this is not what I want to do. What I want to do is what I always do, just stand up, have fun, you know, if, if I was, I was doing the UFC back then too. So it was like, do the UFC commentary, things I love doing, that's what I want to be doing. I don't want to be doing just a job. Jobs are great, don't get me wrong, thankful I got it, but at a certain point in time, if you want to reach your full potential, you have to realize like, this is holding me back. And sometimes people don't want to tell you that, because it's a job, and it's a great get. And I've had people, I've had people tell me, like, don't leave Fear Factor. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about, I have to leave. I'm like, I have to leave, I gotta go.

• 4:44Speaker 01

  I remember, I remember those times, I remember people saying, because I knew you were, I knew you as Joe the Stand Up. And, and, and I remember people saying, he does comedy? And I was like, no, that's what he does. Like, he's not an actor, he's not a host, he's a comedian.

• 4:57Joe Rogan?

  But that's understandable, right? Like, my, my stand up, I'd only done, like, by then, I'd only done like, a couple things that were out, that were available. And I was on the hugest show in television. Fear Factor was fucking gigantic, it was nuts.

• 5:14Speaker 01

  It was massive, Monday nights?

• 5:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was a fun job.

• 5:17Speaker 01

  You know it's a big show when 20 years later, you can remember the night it was on.

• 5:20Joe Rogan?

  But this is what's important. Even though it was the number one show in the country, I still had that feeling, like, I don't want to really be doing this. I, I'm happy to do it, it's, I'm very thankful that I got the job. I, I've worked with some amazing people, it was a lot of fun, we had a great crew, really fun time. But, I didn't want to do it. I wanted to do this. This is what I, I didn't know I wanted to do this, because this wasn't a thing, you know? But, once I figured it out, I was like, oh, this is what I want to do. I want to do this in stand up, and the UFC, which is like, to me, it's not even a job. It's like a vacation.

• 5:50Speaker 01

  It's cra- it's crazy watching you operate in the UFC and seeing that mechanism, and to think, when you started that. Like, how lo- how far that, that path with the UFC has been for you?

• 6:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh, for me, it was 97.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  I know, but walking in through the other day, and I was like, oh, this has been Joe's life for fucking 26 years.

• 6:08Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know. If you want, if you're a person who's a martial artist and you're a fan of martial arts, if you get a job to do that, like if you get a job to talk about martial arts and to express your love for it and your appreciation for the athletes, appreciation for the fighters and what they have to go through to get to where they're at and the magnitude of their accomplishments and to put words to that. Like to do that, to be able to do that for a living, that's an honor. That's how I feel.

• 6:37Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 6:37Joe Rogan?

  It's like, it's an honor. It's an honor and I feel like I do a good job at it and so, and I like doing it and I'm super passionate about it and I don't do it because it's a job. I do it because I love it. Like, I don't need to do it. I could have quit a long time ago. It does, like, I could just watch it. Like, we're doing a fight companion this weekend. It's gonna be fun. We're gonna hang out. What are you doing Saturday?

• 6:58Speaker 01

  I don't know. Oh, I'm in Vegas.

• 7:00Joe Rogan?

  Are you really?

• 7:01Speaker 01

  I have two shows in Vegas this weekend. At Resorts World Theater.

• 7:03Joe Rogan?

  Nice.

• 7:03Speaker 01

  Oh, I should say, my special, Lucky, is streaming right now on Netflix.

• 7:08Joe Rogan?

  Right, right now.

• 7:09Speaker 01

  Right now. I say lucky, I say lucky because I am the luckiest fucking guy in the world. I really am. When you think about like, you think about like, finding the friends I did later in life, you know? Like, at like thirty-seven or thirty-eight when I started meeting all you guys and hanging out with you guys? And then, and then, you know, being, and getting into comedy at the time I did. Like, we got into comedy when no one, it wasn't a job. It was like, it was weird. It was like joining the fucking circus.

• 7:34Joe Rogan?

  It was.

• 7:35Speaker 01

  And I only got into comedy because I got discovered by Rolling Stone magazine as the number one party in the country. I mean, what are the fucking odds of my life tracking out? So, I, that's why I named it Lucky.

• 7:45Joe Rogan?

  Well, we're all very lucky. That's absolutely sure. No, no dispute. We're all very lucky. If you're listening to this, you're very lucky because you can fucking hear. How about that?

• 7:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:56Joe Rogan?

  If you're watching it, you're very lucky that you can see. You're very lucky that you can afford a phone. You're very lucky. Like, most of the world lives in utter poverty. And that's the unfortunate reality of all these people virtue signaling about the 1%. Like, bitch, you're in the 1%.

• 8:10Speaker 01

  There's someone digging blood diamonds in Sarah Leone right now, smoking Brown Brown, and he's 11, okay?

• 8:15Joe Rogan?

  If you make thirty-four thousand dollars in America, you're in the 1% of the world. How about that?

• 8:23Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 8:24Joe Rogan?

  Yep, that's real.

• 8:26Speaker 01

  My grandfather-in-law still isn't in that 1%.

• 8:34Joe Rogan?

  Hey, life's not good for everybody.

• 8:35Speaker 01

  Life's not good for everybody.

• 8:37Joe Rogan?

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• 10:24Speaker 01

  I always think luck is a perspective.

• 10:26Joe Rogan?

  You work hard dude. You you're not just lucky. You work hard. You work real hard. You're always touring. You're always doing things. You're always putting together new shit. You're always working. You're always hustling. Like it's not just luck. It's luck plus, you know, you love to party, but you also have a great work ethic. And that's very, very important, man. It's like you can't just be lucky. Lucky's huge. You gotta get lucky. But also if you work really hard, you tend to get luckier, especially if you're smart and if you're willing to take risks. Like for you, the Travel Channel thing, that was a risk. Like you had to, you had to listen to your friends and you had to go, you know what? They're fucking right. Everybody else is cooking right now and my stand-up's kind of stalled out because I'm doing this TV show.

• 11:09Joe Rogan?

  And again, it's coming from someone who was there. I and and I'm telling you that if you're you're making millions and you still feel that way? Versus if you're making thousands and you still feel that way, you gotta trust me. There's another way to get through this. And the the other way we found. We got, you know, we were right.

• 11:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:27Joe Rogan?

  Look, we fucking saw light at the end of the tunnel. We were like, this is the way to go. And we were right.

• 11:33Speaker 01

  I remember you telling all of us, you guys need a podcast. And I remember saying to Tom, he's out of his mind. Why don't we just do his?

• 11:39Joe Rogan?

  No, everybody thought I was out of my mind for even doing mine. Like people mocked me openly. Like Howard Stern famously mocked all people that were doing podcasts. You're wasting your time. But in his mind, that was correct because he didn't, he didn't have this, he wasn't an internet kid, you know? I'm not an internet kid, but you know, I I used to build my own computers in the 90s. I used to go to Fry's Electronics and get motherboards and hard drives and yeah. My friend Andrew used to help me over the phone. I'd call him. He's a like a wizard tech guy. And so like I had bought all these like high-end gaming computers and upgraded the video cards and

• 12:21Joe Rogan?

  I was on all these like crazy websites. We'd send each other like, you know, those are the two girls, one cups days. Like so I was pretty plugged in.

• 12:29Speaker 01

  What was the guy, Mr. Smiles or something?

• 12:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Mr. Hands.

• 12:31Speaker 01

  Mr. Hands. Okay, keep going.

• 12:33Joe Rogan?

  I was pretty plugged in to the idea that the internet was something that people were finding stuff that just wasn't available anywhere else. I got all these like crazy lectures, these Alan Watts lectures that I downloaded. I'm like, this is nuts. That's back when you had to download stuff and then you had to upload it to an AirPod. Remember your AirPods with the wheel?

• 12:55Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 12:55Joe Rogan?

  Those were the shit.

• 12:56Speaker 01

  Oh, I remember that.

• 12:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the little wheel that would spun around. I loved that thing. And so I would download all these Terrence McKenna lectures and all these Timothy Leary lectures, all these like fascinating conversations that I would download on, and then I started thinking about it. And then I was like, well, there's podcasts, so people just like start, well, let's just start doing one of those. We just start doing it. And I was like, nobody was listening to them. It was like Adam Carolla had a big one because Adam had just left terrestrial radio. He was the morning guy that replaced Howard Stern when Howard Stern went to XM, right? So he's, he's on, or Sirius, whatever it was. So it's both now, right? They're combined. So he's on morning radio all over the country, but morning radio is like super stagnant.

• 13:44Joe Rogan?

  And they had a LA morning radio station where it was all more, or excuse me, talk radio station. Where it was all talk radio. So it was Tom Likas, it was him, it was, there was a few other people. I can't remember. Ricky Rockman had a show.

• 13:58Speaker 01

  Phil Hendry, I think, had a show.

• 14:00Joe Rogan?

  He had a different show.

• 14:01Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 14:01Joe Rogan?

  Phil Hendry was an AM guy.

• 14:03Speaker 01

  He was, that was the greatest, one of the greatest goddamn shows in the world.

• 14:06Joe Rogan?

  It's one of the greatest shows of all time. And he's a super nice guy. I met him once in Montreal. So for people who don't know, Phil Hendry, he's the caller and he's the answerer. He does different voices. And he, he gets people so angry because the callers will say the dumbest fucking shit. And then you'll have actual people calling in to argue with the caller who's all Phil Hendry.

• 14:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. I remember sitting next to my dad's bed. My dad's in his underwear and he's got his alarm clock. And we're listening to it. My dad's just like this and my dad goes, buddy, he's both of them. I was like, what? He goes, this is all him. And you're just like, whoa. I mean, it was so ahead of its time.

• 14:45Joe Rogan?

  So ahead of its time. And once you were in on the joke, it was amazing.

• 14:48Speaker 01

  Oh, it was amazing.

• 14:49Joe Rogan?

  If I was coming home from the store, I'd always, is Phil Henry or Art Bell? That was what I'd listen to.

• 14:55Speaker 01

  God.

• 14:56Joe Rogan?

  The old days. So Art Bell was my favorite.

• 14:58Speaker 01

  Who was Art Bell?

• 14:59Joe Rogan?

  Art Bell was coast to coast with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Nye. He was broadcasting from a fucking bunker in the middle of the Nevada desert. He was in, he like had like this crazy radio tower outside of his house in the Nevada desert. And he would have, he would take calls from time travelers, werewolves, people that are coming from another dimension. Like it was the nuttiest fucking show. For real, like one of my greatest career accomplishments that like made me the most happy was I got on the Art Bell show. And I got on it like way later when he was on the internet. It wasn't even on radio anywhere. But for me, it was like, I got on the Art Bell show. Yes. It was just like, I just loved that show. It was so fun.

• 15:44Joe Rogan?

  Cause I'd be driving, that's, that looks, that was his house. So look at, if you see like what his house looked like, it's like his house is in the middle of nowhere in the fucking desert. I mean, the middle of nowhere. There's nothing around his house. And his house is all fenced in, like chain link fence and shit. It looks like so, it looks so psychotic, like perfect for a guy that is broadcasting. He's got like this compound in the fucking desert, dude.

• 16:12Speaker 01

  God.

• 16:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. It was amazing. And he would broadcast right from there. Cause radio, if you have a tower and you have a station, you could broadcast to the whole country. The country can carry it. So the whole country was carrying coast to coast with Art Bell. And this wild motherfucker is out in the middle of nowhere, in the desert, in like a compound, talking to aliens.

• 16:34Speaker 01

  They were doing, they were doing what we're doing now way before, before the curve.

• 16:38Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yes. Well, we owe all we have today to Howard Stern and Art Bell. For sure. Cause you know, we are kind of like a combination of Howard Stern and Art Bell. And uh, and if it wasn't for the, it wasn't for, he's the, the guy that got arrested, or didn't get arrested, but he got fined heavily by the Bush administration. This is back when the Republicans were the ones that were trying to censor people. Which you should always realize-

• 17:04Speaker 01

  It's crazy that you had to say that.

• 17:06Joe Rogan?

  This fucking stupid game that people play back and forth with, you know, who loves war, who hates war?

• 17:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:12Joe Rogan?

  Who, who loves censorship, who hates censorship? It's a political beach ball that they toss around at a concert to keep people occupied. These motherfuckers switch sides, alright? That should tell you enough alone by yourself, by itself, right there. That they fucking switch sides. But, he was getting attacked for obscenity. So he put, like, whatever they would do. And they would, they were, they fined, what was the total amount that Howard Stern was fined? This has to be, you got a neurotic guy as it is, right? Who's also the, the most pioneering radio guy of all time. Alright, he's the guy that changed radio from DJs playing records to just talking.

• 17:51Speaker 01

  And, and talking in your authentic voice and not, "Hey, welcome back."

• 17:55Joe Rogan?

  Talking in your authentic voice and having wild shit on the radio.

• 17:59Speaker 01

  2.5 million dollars?

• 18:01Joe Rogan?

  2.5 million, between 1990 and 2004. So they fucked with him for 14 years. 14 years.

• 18:09Speaker 01

  And that's not paid by the station, that's paid by him.

• 18:11Joe Rogan?

  Fine owners of radio station licenses that carried the Howard Stern Show. A total of 2.5 million for content and considered to be indecent. Indecent. So all the stuff that we do on podcasts right now, we would 100% have been fined. 100%. I would have been off the air a long time ago. It was real censorship, but it was just done under the guise of, you know, broadcast, like, the idea is like, if you're gonna broadcast something on a major network like NBC, CBS, they have rules to language and what you're allowed to show. Which is kind of crazy. Like, why do you have those rules? Like, why do those rules exist? To keep obscenity from television and like- Maybe that was a good idea in 1950, but people didn't know any better.

• 18:56Joe Rogan?

  But now that we know better, like, why do you have rules like that?

• 18:59Speaker 01

  I can't believe that radio still has those rules. And the rules are slippery. You can say dickhead.

• 19:04Joe Rogan?

  You can't say cunt.

• 19:05Speaker 01

  But you can't say suck my dick.

• 19:06Joe Rogan?

  You can't say any, anything you want to say. Like, sometimes cunt's the right word.

• 19:11Speaker 01

  Cunt's my, one of my favorite words.

• 19:12Joe Rogan?

  Every now and then, it's the right word, when used correctly. But like, if you can't say it, then you can't fully express yourself. And if you don't like people fully expressing themselves, because you don't like certain sounds, I suggest you grow the fuck up.

• 19:28Joe Rogan?

  That's a ridiculous way to think. If, if I can say cock, but I can't say cocksucker. If I could say dick, like di- like Dick Cheney, but I can't say suck a dick. Like, what are we doing? You, you, it's the same sound. You're making the same sound. I can say pussy, cat. Pussy cat's fine. You know, you can't say N-word breakfast. You know what I'm saying?

• 19:54Speaker 01

  You can, you gotta look both ways.

• 19:56Joe Rogan?

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• 22:35Speaker 01

  It even gets trickier. Like, there was a video I was cutting to promote my tour or whatever, and it's me on a boat, or the special. And it's me on a boat, and there's this, there's this page I'm really obsessed with. It's Fat N-Word Season. Joe is so addictive. Because it's, and it's just, it's all AI. And I think they're promoting a crypto coin.

• 22:56Joe Rogan?

  Of course.

• 22:57Speaker 01

  And I was like, and I didn't like the edit. So I go, "Hey, put Fat N-Word Summer. Play that song." And it's fucking so much funnier, Joe. With, it's so much funnier with me shirtless on a boat. But these guys are great. But my wife saw it. She was like, "That's offensive." I was like, "No."

• 23:15Joe Rogan?

  Well, she's right.

• 23:16Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then I sent it to Tommy. I go, "Is this racist?" And he was like, "Sent it to the wrong guy."

• 23:23Speaker 01

  All Tom sends me is

• 23:27Speaker 01

  videos of, of fat black chicks on rope swings.

• 23:33Speaker 01

  Our whole thread is just anytime a chick takes an L off a cliff.

• 23:37Joe Rogan?

  God, that's, I gotta get on that thread because the ones me and Tommy are on is horrible.

• 23:41Speaker 01

  What's that one?

• 23:42Joe Rogan?

  It's all murder.

• 23:42Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 23:43Joe Rogan?

  We send each other the murder and, and car accidents. Today was a car accident. It was guys escaping the cops and the guy flips this van multiple times, gets thrown into traffic and then run over by cars and it's just splatterfest.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  I can't watch those. I was telling, uh, I was telling someone, uh, my daughter, my niece had my phone and she's like three and you don't, you forget what your algorithm looks like. And she, it was, and it was Fat Em'er Summer Song came on and she's like, Uncle Bert? And then the next video is a chick pissing on the plastered out dude's head. And I was like, oh, maybe you shouldn't use my phone to, to relax with.

• 24:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, my kids know better.

• 24:22Speaker 01

  My algorithm is fucked, dude.

• 24:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, my algorithm's not good.

• 24:26Speaker 01

  It is fu- it is-

• 24:27Joe Rogan?

  My YouTube algorithm's great.

• 24:29Speaker 01

  Oh, my YouTube algorithm's all history.

• 24:31Joe Rogan?

  A lot of my YouTube algorithm lately has been, um, like watching people build things. I love like cabinet makers and carpenters or there's this one guy who makes these specialized desks that have like secret drawers and shit.

• 24:44Speaker 01

  I follow that guy. Where you put your hand here and a magnet comes up and a wand comes out and he waves it?

• 24:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 24:50Speaker 01

  Fuck, those desks are badass.

• 24:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he waved the wand and the keyboard rolls out. Like, yeah, it's pretty dope. There's a bunch of those guys that make these like super ingenious, like homemade artisan desks.

• 25:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, that, or if you get me a chick with no bra doing survival techniques in the woods.

• 25:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 25:09Speaker 01

  Fucking, I'm in.

• 25:09Joe Rogan?

  That's a sell.

• 25:10Speaker 01

  I've watched so many of those, just rock hard nipples.

• 25:14Joe Rogan?

  Hot chicks have found their way into basically all walks of life as influencers. You know, there's like hot chick hunters, there's hot chick jujitsu's, jujitsu girls, there's hot chick CrossFitters.

• 25:25Speaker 01

  There's definitely, uh, hot chick golfers. You know that? I ran into Paige Spearnak in, uh, at the Super Bowl. And I was like, and I was like, I had to be real because I'm a golfer. I was like, I follow you for your swing. You have a great swing.

• 25:38Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 25:39Speaker 01

  But then you know what's crazy about Paige? She can't, uh, snap her fingers or whistle.

• 25:46Joe Rogan?

  Uh, how'd you find that out?

• 25:48Speaker 01

  Cause we were playing a game like Weird Things About Us and she was like, I can't, I can't snap my fingers. And I watched her and she went like this. She was like-

• 25:56Speaker 01

  And I go, and she goes, I can't whistle, and starts going.

• 25:58Joe Rogan?

  How could you not snap your fingers?

• 26:00Speaker 01

  I have no idea.

• 26:02Speaker 03

  She's the most followed golfer, Joe.

• 26:04Joe Rogan?

  Damn.

• 26:04Speaker 03

  And she's not.

• 26:05Joe Rogan?

  Tiger Woods only has 3.5 million followers, and she's got four, and she's not a professional. Yeah, if you're hot, you could, you could do a lot in this world.

• 26:14Speaker 01

  And you could also not whistle and snap.

• 26:16Joe Rogan?

  You don't have to snap.

• 26:17Speaker 01

  No, you don't have to snap.

• 26:18Joe Rogan?

  Do you care?

• 26:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, she's super hot.

• 26:20Speaker 01

  But she does have a great swing.

• 26:21Joe Rogan?

  I bet she does, Jesus Christ.

• 26:23Speaker 01

  If she's not wearing a bra, it's so good. Look at that, watch, well, just watch one.

• 26:26Joe Rogan?

  This seems pornographic, almost.

• 26:28Speaker 01

  She's got, oh, there we go.

• 26:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, gee, I wonder why she's got so many followers.

• 26:31Speaker 03

  She's gonna golf.

• 26:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 26:35Speaker 01

  She's got a good swing.

• 26:36Joe Rogan?

  Damn. I don't even know if I saw any movement.

• 26:43Speaker 01

  I think, I swear to God, if I had tits.

• 26:45Joe Rogan?

  You want to talk about lucky?

• 26:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:47Joe Rogan?

  That's the Willy Wonka golden ticket, being a, a, a super hot woman. Like, all you have to do is be nice, and doors just open up everywhere. Like, da, da, da, da, she's here. If you're that hot, anywhere you go, like, what, red carpets get rolled out, roses get thrown at your feet.

• 27:02Speaker 01

  She was walking down, uh, Radio Row at Super Bowl with Cam Hayward, and both of us are like, just stop talking.

• 27:07Joe Rogan?

  But also, creepers. Creepers launch themselves at you. You're never invisible, guys are fucking with you all the time, overconfident guys are hitting on you all the time, and then getting really mean when you reject them. That's the thing that chicks have to deal with. They have to deal with, like, angry guys that, like, are angry that they get rejected, and they start insulting them, and yelling at them, and like, that's scary shit, man. That's scary shit.

• 27:32Speaker 01

  Think about all our friends, all our female comedians that have stalkers. I mean, that, like, it's, it's so, you work your ass off as a comic, you happen to be pretty, you start killing it, and then all the fucking psychos come out of the woodwork.

• 27:46Joe Rogan?

  And you don't have any money, so you, you know, probably live in a place that's easy to get to.

• 27:52Speaker 01

  That's crazy. Yeah, I don't, I don't, uh.

• 27:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's dangerous. There's a lot of fucking, well, we need better mental health care in this fucking country. And there's a lot of people out there that are out of their fucking mind. And if no one's paying in, paying attention to them or checking in on them, like, imagine your, your average guy who loses his fucking mind and you're a forty year old guy who works at a gas station. You've been working at that gas station for twenty years and no one's paying attention. And you're just slowly losing your fucking mind. And, you know, you think Jared Leto is Satan. And, you know, you've, you've decided that like someone's sending you code on television and and then you lock on to some female comedian. And like, that's your target. That's who you're.

• 28:39Speaker 01

  It's gotta feel nice, though.

• 28:41Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 28:41Speaker 01

  To be the lunatic.

• 28:42Joe Rogan?

  No. What the fuck is wrong with you?

• 28:45Speaker 01

  Have something to focus on.

• 28:46Joe Rogan?

  Don't encourage this. Have something to focus on. Play video games, guys.

• 28:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:51Joe Rogan?

  Get it, get involved in Call of Duty, okay? You don't have to fucking go stalk people. Find something productive. Play online chess, you fucking psycho. You don't have to, uh, go stalk people.

• 29:01Speaker 01

  I always had that, that brain that, you know, I'd see something like a new addiction come up, like cutting. And I'd go, I wonder what that does. Like, I was always looking for something like that, you know?

• 29:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 29:11Speaker 01

  Like, like, uh, I could never do eating disorder, that was too tough for me, but, uh, hey, how about when we were at dinner with that guy? And, uh, and I said to him, I ran marathons, and he went, you do?

• 29:24Joe Rogan?

  That was funny.

• 29:25Speaker 01

  And, and he goes, I, I wasn't trying to be rude.

• 29:28Joe Rogan?

  That was funny. He was definitely trying to be rude.

• 29:32Joe Rogan?

  But he was being funny. We were talking shit. That's Taylor, Taylor Sheridan.

• 29:35Speaker 01

  He was awesome, dude.

• 29:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I like how you call him that guy.

• 29:38Speaker 01

  Well, I didn't want to blow his spot up.

• 29:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's all, he, it.

• 29:40Speaker 01

  Dude, he's, let me tell you something. I'm, I'm gonna give props to Taylor Sheridan. I haven't said this to anyone. I try to keep those moments that, you know, you have with those guys private. So I was a little bit of a party snitch for a while. But like, uh, he's, he's a great American storyteller.

• 29:53Joe Rogan?

  He really is.

• 29:54Speaker 01

  When he says, when he tells you anything about his life or what he's doing or breaking, or he wouldn't, he doesn't even call it breaking a horse. I see, he calls it a different term. But I'm sitting there going like, this is, I mean, and this is gonna be slanderous a little bit, you know, considering difference of time of where they were, but like, it's like having dinner with Ernest Hemingway. He's created some of the greatest content out there, Yellowstone.

• 30:15Joe Rogan?

  You can't compare him to Ernest Hemingway, cause Ernest Hemingway is dead and a legend. That's the problem.

• 30:21Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 30:21Joe Rogan?

  But he's amazing.

• 30:22Speaker 01

  But amazing.

• 30:22Joe Rogan?

  You ever see that Hell or High Water? You ever see that film?

• 30:25Speaker 01

  No, what's that?

• 30:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, it's one of his films.

• 30:28Speaker 01

  Oh, that's Terrell's film.

• 30:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's fucking great. Pull up Hell or High Water.

• 30:35Joe Rogan?

  This fucking movie dude. This fucking movie is incredible. Jeff Bridges is in it.

• 30:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've seen this.

• 30:41Joe Rogan?

  It's about bank robbers, these criminals in a small town. It's fucking good dude.

• 30:46Speaker 01

  I think, uh, what's his name's in this. Oh shit. We have a friend in this.

• 30:53Joe Rogan?

  Who's your friend?

• 30:53Speaker 01

  No, uh, me and you. I think it's our friend. I don't know who it is, though. I forget.

• 30:57Joe Rogan?

  Okay. Jamie, go to the cast.

• 31:03Joe Rogan?

  Who's in that?

• 31:04Speaker 01

  God, Ben Foster's so fucking good.

• 31:06Joe Rogan?

  That guy's so good. You know what that guy was in that's super underrated, one of his performances, cause it's such a wacky movie? Thirty Days of Night. Did you ever see Thirty Days of Night?

• 31:16Speaker 01

  What's Thirty Days of Night?

• 31:17Joe Rogan?

  Thirty Days of Night is the second best vampire movie of all time.

• 31:21Speaker 01

  Really?

• 31:21Joe Rogan?

  First best vampire movie of all time is the most recent Nosferato. That's the best vampire movie of all time.

• 31:28Speaker 01

  The one that just came out?

• 31:29Joe Rogan?

  The one that just came out.

• 31:30Speaker 01

  Okay, Nosferato, okay.

• 31:32Joe Rogan?

  The best vampire movie of all time.

• 31:33Speaker 01

  Is it streaming yet?

• 31:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 31:35Speaker 01

  Oh, I can't wait.

• 31:36Joe Rogan?

  It's on Apple. Um, but this was, Thirty Days of Night was a movie where Ben Foster played like a vampire familiar. And these vampires would go to, they went to Alaska in the middle of the winter where it's it's dark for thirty days, so they could be out for thirty days. And they're fucking terrifying vampires. They're really fun. It's a really, and Ben Foster plays the vampire familiar, you know, so the familiar is like, that's him in there.

• 32:07Speaker 01

  What's a familiar?

• 32:08Joe Rogan?

  A familiar is a human that the vampires use to get close to humans. And they promise the human that one day he'll have eternal life and he'll be one of them. So the vampire goes and sets up people for the vampire familiar sets people up to be killed by the vampires.

• 32:28Speaker 01

  Oh, shut up.

• 32:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 32:29Speaker 01

  I gotta watch this. Dude, he was great in, uh, in, uh, the, the, what was the movie? Where they kidnapped the kid? Justin Timberlake was in it. Raw Dog, not Raw Dog.

• 32:41Joe Rogan?

  Uh, Ben Foster's a beast.

• 32:42Speaker 01

  But he's awesome.

• 32:44Joe Rogan?

  He's a beast.

• 32:45Speaker 01

  Three Eleven to Zuma or whatever.

• 32:47Joe Rogan?

  I didn't see that one.

• 32:48Speaker 01

  Yuma. Oh, my God. He is.

• 32:50Joe Rogan?

  What is it, Chairman?

• 32:50Speaker 03

  Three Ten to Yuma.

• 32:51Speaker 01

  Three Ten to Yuma.

• 32:52Joe Rogan?

  I didn't see that.

• 32:54Speaker 01

  He was great in the, the Justin Timberlake movie. It was called like Top Dog or something. Alpha Dog. And he was just awesome and he had a very small role. He played the guy's older brother. And it was just like, he's just, he just owns the screen.

• 33:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's a beast. He's, there's certain people that like when they act, you just go, God damn.

• 33:12Speaker 01

  I am not one of them.

• 33:13Joe Rogan?

  So good. So good. So it makes a movie so much better. It makes a, so you just get dragged into it.

• 33:21Speaker 01

  I think Jonah Ray is probably the best comic actor out there.

• 33:25Joe Rogan?

  What has he been in?

• 33:26Speaker 01

  Jonah Ray, everything. When he was in War Dogs and he goes to buy drugs from the black guys.

• 33:31Joe Rogan?

  I didn't see that either.

• 33:32Speaker 01

  And he goes.

• 33:33Joe Rogan?

  There's too much to see, Bert Kreischer.

• 33:34Speaker 01

  Oh, I, man, I'm telling you, I'm just starting now to just download stuff and get off Instagram. And if I'm going to bed, just turn on a documentary and start watching it.

• 33:43Joe Rogan?

  What does that mean by just starting now to get off Instagram?

• 33:45Speaker 01

  I'm trying. Jonah Hill.

• 33:48Joe Rogan?

  Jonah Hill, you mean?

• 33:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, what did I say?

• 33:49Speaker 03

  Jonah Ray.

• 33:50Speaker 01

  Jesus Christ.

• 33:51Joe Rogan?

  Okay, that's why you confused me.

• 33:52Speaker 01

  Sorry, Jonah Ray.

• 33:53Joe Rogan?

  No, Jonah Hill's awesome.

• 33:54Speaker 01

  Jonah Hill's fucking amazing.

• 33:55Joe Rogan?

  He's great.

• 33:56Speaker 01

  Jonah Hill's amazing. He was in, in War Dogs, he goes up and buys black guy money, weed from the black guys. And he's like, how much? He goes, a hundred twenty bucks. And he gives him the hundred twenty bucks. And then he just started to keep talking to himself and he's like, Jonah's like, hey, he's got a voice. What are we doing here? Hi, guys? And they're like, get the fuck out. And he's like, oh, okay, okay. And he goes to the back of his trunk and pulls out a machine gun and goes, grrrr. He goes, are you listening to me now? He's just awesome, dude. Awesome, man. I fucking love that guy. But yeah, uh.

• 34:24Joe Rogan?

  There's too many movies to be paying attention to these days. When I was a kid, if you said you didn't know, you never saw Apocalypse Now? What the fuck? You know, it's like, once VHS tapes came out, you're supposed to have seen the big ones.

• 34:36Speaker 01

  You didn't see The Godfather? You didn't see Star Wars?

• 34:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 34:39Speaker 01

  Are you out of your fucking mind?

• 34:41Joe Rogan?

  But today, it's like, they never stopped making movies.

• 34:44Speaker 01

  No.

• 34:44Joe Rogan?

  They've never stopped. They make new ones every year. You can't keep up. There's no way.

• 34:48Speaker 01

  And all the ones that were up for Oscars, I saw none of those.

• 34:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, they all involved chaos.

• 34:54Speaker 01

  But it's like...

• 34:55Joe Rogan?

  They all involved the end of civilization. If you want to win an Oscar, you have to be trans lives matter all the way. Like, what do you, what do you do to win an Oscar today? Like, you have to have something that's got some meaning to it, other than just being a good movie. Right? Like, there's, there's gotta be some social justice aspect to it. Wasn't there like something where they were talking about? God damn it.

• 35:20Joe Rogan?

  I can't remember what the article was about. But it was about requirements for a film to win an Oscar today. What they believe to be requirements. So I don't like awards. Do you know what it is? There was something that they were, it was just...

• 35:36Speaker 03

  Representation and inclusion standards?

• 35:38Joe Rogan?

  That's it.

• 35:39Speaker 03

  Like that?

• 35:39Joe Rogan?

  That's it.

• 35:40Speaker 01

  That's, it's, that's not, that's not the only way to tell a story.

• 35:42Joe Rogan?

  That's not, because if you do that, you don't get Shogun. Okay?

• 35:46Speaker 01

  Ohhh.

• 35:47Joe Rogan?

  You don't get Shogun. You gotta, you gotta have an all Japanese cast, you wanna get Shogun. You know, you can't, you can't have a fully diverse, you know, fifty fifty split of whatever, everybody. You can't.

• 36:01Speaker 01

  No.

• 36:01Joe Rogan?

  You, you, you have to tell a specific kind of a movie. You know, if you're gonna make a movie about the Congo, you can't have white people play native Congolese people. You can't have that. So it's like, some stories are not diverse. It doesn't make, make them less valid. It doesn't mean you're racist. It just means that some stories take place in Norway and they involve Vikings. Okay, this is like just a part of human history. You know, some places... Some stories take place in Egypt and they involve Africans, okay? It's like, there's plenty of room for every kind of fucking story. But if you only want like a specific type of story to win an Academy Award, you don't get The Godfather. Daylight Savings is coming, so we're about to lose an hour,

• 36:46Joe Rogan?

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• 37:29Joe Rogan?

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• 37:52Speaker 01

  You don't get Jaws.

• 37:53Joe Rogan?

  You gotta get all Italians if you want The Godfather.

• 37:55Speaker 01

  Think about, think about who were the Oscar winners when we were kids? Were all fucking banger movies that everyone saw. That everyone saw. Best Picture won Best Picture because it was Best Picture, not because it was a Best Picture about a trans social worker that got abducted and...

• 38:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, they got distorted. They get distorted with what the job is. The job is just to purely entertain people with a great piece of work. That's all it is. That's the whole job. And that could be Pulp Fiction. You know, there's no message in Pulp Fiction.

• 38:27Speaker 01

  There's not.

• 38:27Joe Rogan?

  It's fucking chaos, and it's amazing.

• 38:31Speaker 01

  The message we took away was that white guys can say the N-word.

• 38:34Joe Rogan?

  I guess.

• 38:35Speaker 01

  We were like, alright!

• 38:37Joe Rogan?

  Gun in your hand, you could do it. But the whole movie is just madness. But it's amazing. It's you can't deny how great it is. Like, that's supposed to be what the best movie is. It's not supposed to be. I don't even know if that won best film. Did it win best film? Did Pulp Fiction win best picture?

• 38:57Speaker 03

  No, but I think he won best director and best, I may be off that.

• 39:01Joe Rogan?

  It should have won best picture.

• 39:02Speaker 01

  Him and Roger Avery together were fucking gangsters.

• 39:06Speaker 03

  That was a really good year.

• 39:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's right. We actually talked about that on the podcast.

• 39:10Speaker 03

  It was actually Unforgiven that year, but I'm gonna make sure.

• 39:12Speaker 01

  Unforgiven was a fucking great movie.

• 39:14Joe Rogan?

  Fucking great movie.

• 39:15Speaker 01

  God.

• 39:16Joe Rogan?

  That was Clint Eastwood going back and cleaning up all his old westerns. That's what that movie was. It's like, let me show you what it was probably really like. What it was really like. Not, not this, you know, fucking, you, everybody's looking at you sideways.

• 39:34Joe Rogan?

  No, the, the reality was that character that he played, that old assassin.

• 39:39Speaker 01

  What year do you think movies stopped being great movies and started being, like, what year did we switch?

• 39:45Joe Rogan?

  I think people are still making great movies.

• 39:47Speaker 01

  But they're not winning Oscars.

• 39:48Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think who cares? I really do. I think the, once Will Smith slapped Chris Rock, the Oscars to me were like, what? I'm done. I'm done. Like, you guys, and then they all applauded him and gave him a standing ovation afterwards when he won an Oscar. I'm done.

• 40:04Speaker 01

  Forrest fucking Gump.

• 40:06Joe Rogan?

  Forrest Gump was a banger.

• 40:07Speaker 01

  Every, I, I, hang on, I saw every movie on there.

• 40:10Joe Rogan?

  Shawshank Redemption? Oh my god.

• 40:11Speaker 01

  Every movie on there.

• 40:12Joe Rogan?

  Quiz show?

• 40:14Speaker 01

  Quiz show was great.

• 40:15Joe Rogan?

  I never saw Four Weddings and a Funeral. I heard it was great, though.

• 40:17Speaker 01

  Dude, it made you wanna date a fucking British chick. I made you wanna have a rich friend, live in a castle, get drunk, watch a friend die, and fucking.

• 40:24Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 40:26Speaker 01

  Look at all of these.

• 40:27Joe Rogan?

  That makes sense that that was best film. But what an amazing year. Shawshank, Pulp Fiction, Quiz Show. Quiz Show was fucking great.

• 40:38Joe Rogan?

  By the way, that was, that was a real thing.

• 40:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they really fucking rigged a quiz show. That's why there's like, there's all sorts of rules. If you're running a game show, because I was on a game show, Fear Factor. It was my best way to get people away from me. If they asked me, how do we get on Fear Factor? I go, if you wanna get on, you can't even talk to me. Because if you talk to me, then I'll have previously known you, then it could be seen that I helped you get on the show. So I can't talk to you. It was great.

• 41:04Speaker 01

  It's a great workaround.

• 41:05Joe Rogan?

  It was great and it was true.

• 41:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:08Joe Rogan?

  Sorry.

• 41:09Speaker 01

  Did they have, did they have someone like really judging the how, the like horse sperm? Going like, we gotta, like, like, like, an official officiating it because it was prize money?

• 41:22Speaker 01

  Meaning like the quiz, quiz show was all about them breaking the rules.

• 41:25Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 41:25Speaker 01

  And you had to have someone, a standards and practice guy on your team, making sure the game was fair for everyone, correct?

• 41:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think there was something like that. I think, I guess the network just did that. I think we kind of ran the idea, or they ran the ideas by the network and the network decided, you know, whether or not this was fair or what, what have you. But everything was always fair. Like that show was, you know, nobody got knowledge of the stunt before they got there. We blindfolded everybody. They were traveling around in vans. They would be blindfolded. Sometimes they'd cover their ears so they couldn't even hear. And then they would take their blindfolds off and then right there and then they would find out what they had to do. So right there and then they find out they gotta get covered in snakes or something like that. And we knew that someone had a fear of snakes. Cause you fill out a form, you know, if you got a fear of snakes, guess what?

• 42:14Joe Rogan?

  You might wind up on the snake episode, you know, it was a fucking crazy show. But, you know, it was all fair. But that quiz show, they, you know, they figured it out like the mob figured out the fucking lottery. You know, Whitey Bulger won the lottery twice.

• 42:31Speaker 01

  Did he really?

• 42:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. You know how bold you have to be to be a gangster in South Boston and not just win the lottery once? But win the lottery twice. Like, see where you can find that.

• 42:42Speaker 01

  How does, wait, how do you rig the numbers that big? That's crazy.

• 42:48Joe Rogan?

  Get away with it. You can, you can kind of get away with stuff before the internet. Before the internet, you could get away with things like that. Where you could kind of rig the lottery a couple of times and everybody's like, Whitey won again? What the fuck?

• 43:01Speaker 01

  Oh, that's great.

• 43:02Joe Rogan?

  When I was a kid and I was living in Boston, I used to teach one of his hitmen.

• 43:08Joe Rogan?

  I taught one of his hitmen Taekwondo.

• 43:11Speaker 01

  Oh, well, what's it like teaching a hitman?

• 43:13Joe Rogan?

  It was weird.

• 43:15Speaker 01

  Are they good students?

• 43:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he was very, very disciplined. Yeah, he was like a known, he was a known guy in the, the South Boston Irish mob.

• 43:26Joe Rogan?

  And you wanted to learn how to fight. Lottery winner had been one of Bulger's brilliant schemes to launder his drug extortion loan sharking money. Back in the summer, which makes sense, right? What better way to, why do I, why do you have a Cadillac? I won the fucking lottery. Yeah. We're clear. So you could have all your shit. So, uh, Bull, uh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. Millions lottery ticket had been purchased at the South Boston Liquor Mart by Michael Linsky, who was the brother of a Bulger underling named Patrick Linsky. The FBI had learned that once Whitey heard about the jackpot, he ordered the real winner to sign the ticket over, with Whitey and two associates paying 2.3 million dollars in cash for 50% of the winnings. Bulger himself paid, uh, Linsky 700,000, although Linsky lost money in the deal.

• 44:11Joe Rogan?

  He really had no choice. It came down to selling the ticket or risking his life. Kevin Weeks, whose name also appeared in the winning lottery, uh, the winning ticket, later claimed that Linsky purchased a large batch of tickets to hand out as Christmas gifts and promised to split any winnings with Bulger and Weeks. But Weeks' story makes little sense. The so-called Christmas gifts were purchased during the dog days of summer.

• 44:34Joe Rogan?

  Um, so they did it. The scam set up a 20-year legitimate income stream for Whitey where he earned 119,000 dollars each year.

• 44:43Speaker 01

  Oh, wow, that's brilliant.

• 44:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so that's what he did. He found out that somebody won it. He's totally tuned into the neighborhood. Find that guy, fuck him over, take his ticket. Look, I won the lottery.

• 44:53Speaker 01

  And you have no choice.

• 44:54Joe Rogan?

  You have no choice.

• 44:55Speaker 01

  It's like when the guy hit Gotti's grandson with the car.

• 44:58Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 44:59Speaker 01

  And, yeah, you gotta die now.

• 45:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you're dead. Yeah, yeah, if you lived in that, that time, like in the 1980s, when I used to teach this guy Taekwondo, like you would always hear about hits. I knew a guy who got arrested. I don't know if he did it. He was a guy that I was friends with. His name was Richie. I was friends with him before he went to jail. And then I was kind of friends with him when he got out of jail before I realized that he was like very dangerous now. He was a completely different person. So he went away to jail. He was a little older than me. I was eighteen, so he was probably twenty or twenty-one. And he went to jail on some, some kind of gun charge or drug charge.

• 45:43Joe Rogan?

  So he comes out of jail a few years later and he's an animal. I mean, an animal. He's way bigger. He's, he's put on like thirty pounds of muscle and he's seen way too much. He was telling me stories about fights that he used to get into, in the jail where he'd beat some guy half to death with a broom handle. And that you had, you're fighting for your life in there. It's like every day you're fighting for, and he knew how to fight. He was, you know, I trained with him. That's where I knew him. I knew him from taekwondo. And he was just telling me about fights that he would get in jail. He's like, you have to fight. There's nothing you could do. It's constant. You're, you're constantly on edge. I'm like, fuck, man.

• 46:25Joe Rogan?

  And so I'd known this guy before jail, then I'd known him after jail, and he was just way more dangerous after jail. He was doing a lot of coke. He would train, and when you would train with him, it was a fight. I mean, it was a fight. It wasn't, you were fighting for your life. You know? I broke his whole face once. I hit him with a wheel kick in the head because we were fighting, man. I mean, we were fighting. We were, and there was no one there, by the way. It was my gym, so it was just me and him, like literally fighting. He would just attack you. Like it wasn't like a technical sparring thing. And back then, I felt like I was a pussy if I didn't spar with anybody who wanted to spar. Like, you want to spar? Okay, let's spar.

• 47:06Joe Rogan?

  So you sparred with everybody and some people you sparred with. Some people there, you would like, let's just not hurt each other.

• 47:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:12Joe Rogan?

  And then other people you knew you were fighting. You, you were bomb, guys get knocked out all the time. I saw dozens of guys get knocked out in the gym, all the time. I did a lot of it. It was scary. It was scary. You would be super nervous before class. You'd be super.

• 47:29Speaker 01

  You'd have that, and you're doing class every day. That's happening every day?

• 47:31Joe Rogan?

  All the time.

• 47:32Speaker 01

  I would be, I have anxiety, I have anxiety getting on planes.

• 47:35Joe Rogan?

  You're sparring three or four days a week. Yeah, you're sparring three or four days a week. If you're smart, you have to, you have to stay sharp.

• 47:43Speaker 01

  So you broke this guy's face?

• 47:45Joe Rogan?

  Broke his face and he wanted to keep training. He was still coming after me. I was like, dude, you gotta look in the mirror. Look in the mirror. And his whole face shifted. It shifted. I hit him with a wheel kick in the cheek. He went out, his eyes rolled back in his head, he collapses down to his butt, and then he tried to get back up slowly. He gets back up. And he's like, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. And then like 30 seconds later, he wants to keep sparring. And I'm like, you gotta stop. But he was just a monster, like a savage, like a savage person. He was a kid when I knew him, like a normal kid, like, what's up Richie? And then three or four years later, whatever it was when he got out, he was a monster.

• 48:24Speaker 01

  Was there any hint of the old Richie where you could go, hey man, what's going on?

• 48:28Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 48:29Speaker 01

  He was just gone?

• 48:30Joe Rogan?

  No, he was gone. The old, well, I didn't know the old Richie that well. Now, I'm thinking timeline. So this was pre me doing stand-up. So I probably met him first when I was like 16. And then I met him again when I was 21. It was somewhere around that, 20, 21. Cause that's when I stopped fighting. And it was like right around the same time where I knew Richie where I stopped fighting. So he got arrested. There was a guy who was murdered and um, they broke every bone in his body with a hammer. And they kept injecting him with cocaine to keep him alive.

• 49:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 49:11Speaker 01

  Holy fuck.

• 49:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They, they, they identified the body. I forget how they identified the body, but I'm pretty sure they chopped his hands and his head off. And they found this guy and he got arrested for that. And he got away, he got off. I don't think they charged him. I don't think he actually did it. But he definitely knew people who did it. He was involved with the same kind of people. And this is like one of the guys that I worked out with, but he wasn't the hitman. The hitman was way more stoic.

• 49:41Speaker 01

  Really, older?

• 49:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he was older. He was in his thirties. And the hitman was, um.

• 49:47Speaker 01

  Would he come in with like hitman problems, like, alright, say I'm in a restaurant?

• 49:51Joe Rogan?

  He asked me once, how would I kill a guy?

• 49:52Speaker 01

  Really?

• 49:53Joe Rogan?

  He said, if you're gonna hit a guy and you were gonna kill him, where would you hit him? I said, probably the neck. And he said, yeah, I think so. And that was the conversation. That was the end of the conversation. I don't even know why I picked the neck, because the neck actually could take a pretty good beating. Neck's pretty tough.

• 50:09Speaker 01

  Not mine.

• 50:09Joe Rogan?

  Your head is way weaker than your neck. This is really weak, like this little spot right here, your temple. This little tiny, thin little layer of bone there that protects your brain. It's not big at all.

• 50:19Speaker 01

  When was the last time you got punched?

• 50:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's been a long time. I haven't sparred at all since like two thousand seven or eight, like sparring.

• 50:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:28Joe Rogan?

  Kickboxing sparring, yeah. It's too, even little sparring wears on you. You carry that for your whole life, just thuds, little thuds, even ones that aren't that hard. Just a jab, just a thud. You carry those, like, those are real.

• 50:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:45Joe Rogan?

  That's brain damage. Those little times they get danged in the gym, that's real. That's brain damage. That's brain damage. And like I told you, like when I was a kid, we did a lot of brain damage. It was a, sparring was horrible.

• 50:57Speaker 01

  I've had, I've had, I think, eight concussions, and I'm just, I'm just a kid. I didn't even spar. I'm just talking like basketball camp one time, football. Uh, I play in football for the Hurt Burt shit. I got knocked unconscious. Like, I've probably had eight concussions, I'm guessing, you know?

• 51:15Joe Rogan?

  Well, I've had a lot. My last one was just a couple of years ago, skiing, last time skiing.

• 51:20Speaker 01

  You were, I just talked to you the other day when you were skiing, and I thought you didn't ski because of your knees.

• 51:26Joe Rogan?

  Well, my knee did get, I did fracture one of the bones in the top of my, uh, tibia.

• 51:36Joe Rogan?

  Uh, no, which one's the, yeah, tibia and then the fibula is the little one, right?

• 51:40Speaker 01

  Fibula is in the shin, right?

• 51:41Joe Rogan?

  I cracked the, the, the tibia, but it's that healed, but the real problem was the head. My head, I fell on my head. I, my, my skis went up in the air and I hit the ground head first. Yeah, and it was a-

• 51:55Speaker 01

  Helmet?

• 51:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

• 51:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:58Joe Rogan?

  But it was a bang, like I got rocked and I was like, oh shit, like that was a big one. And then the rest of the day I was like dizzy, I wasn't, my balance was all bad. It was not good, it was not good. And then I was like, I'm done with this skiing thing. Cause I've always worried about my knees, cause I still, I, you know, I still love doing martial arts. And if I'm not doing it, I don't feel good. Like I like to hit the back, I like to have my joints work perfectly. I like to have my skills still there. I like to do it, it's fun to do. So anything that takes that away from me, like, huh, skiing just for a thrill, like wee.

• 52:34Speaker 01

  Oh, oh, and once you get hurt, once you break-

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• 54:41Joe Rogan?

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• 54:59Speaker 01

  I was, we did a concrete sled competition in Calgary or in Edmonton?

• 55:04Joe Rogan?

  Concrete sled?

• 55:05Speaker 01

  Concrete sled. It's an engineering team, and they have to figure out a way to build a concrete sled that makes it down a mountain with all the team members on it and stops within the right area.

• 55:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 55:17Speaker 01

  And dude, people get fucked up. I mean fucked up.

• 55:20Joe Rogan?

  Concrete sled must be so heavy.

• 55:22Speaker 01

  You can find a picture of it. Type in University of Edmonton, concrete sled. I think that's what it's called. And right before, right before...

• 55:33Joe Rogan?

  This is why people keep themselves occupied when they're so fucking bored, because it's 38 degrees below zero outside?

• 55:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. And dude, that's the coldest I've ever been. My fingers... See those concrete sleds? There's one where the guys get fucked up so bad.

• 55:47Joe Rogan?

  I don't want to see it. It's so stupid.

• 55:49Speaker 01

  But the guy, the team that went right before me, they flipped. Flipped, ragdolled, yard sailed everywhere.

• 55:55Joe Rogan?

  If these people tried bow hunting, they would quit this. They'd quit all this. They wouldn't be doing any of this. This is ridiculous. You could fucking die.

• 56:04Speaker 01

  Well, a guy before me broke his femur. And I remember the guy, the kid, little stoner with the walkie that tells us, all right, you guys are next. He goes, huh, what's that? Broken femur? And he looks at me, he goes, broken femur is a game changer. And I was like, I gotta go next. Like, what the fuck? Like, that was terrifying. But yeah, I, I, I, that, I think about that sometimes, just having my elbow surgery. I gained so much weight from just having one arm. Cause I couldn't do it, I couldn't get on the treadmill, I couldn't do anything. That I go, any injury is like, I don't want any injury.

• 56:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and injuries are not good. And this is coming from a person who's had a bunch of surgeries. I don't have a bu, I've had three knee surgeries, had my nose operated on. Oh, let me tell you, my game changer. Mouth tape.

• 56:49Speaker 01

  You were talking about this?

• 56:51Joe Rogan?

  Game changer. Game changer. I know people say this, and I know it's like one of those fucking fitness influencer things where people are selling something. I got no skin in the game, okay? I'm not selling nothing, I don't have anything for sale. I use a company called Hostage Tape. I'm sure there's other ones that are great, but the Hostage Tape makes me laugh.

• 57:13Joe Rogan?

  It's, you take this tape and you put it over your mouth when you sleep. Now, I have sleep apnea, so I wear a mouthpiece. And my mouthpiece has a tongue depressor. So the mouthpiece is fitted to my lower, my lower jaw. And the tongue depressor keeps my tongue from falling back on my throat. So I, I don't block my airway, cause I have a big tongue. And I have a fat neck. So it's like the air hole, it gets clogged up by the tongue. So the tongue depressor works, and then I put the tape over my mouth, so I'm not using my mouth at all. Thank God, I got my nose fixed in like, uh, fifteen years ago or something like that. Best decision I ever made in my life. Best decision I've ever made.

• 57:51Speaker 01

  Really?

• 57:52Joe Rogan?

  One of the best.

• 57:53Speaker 01

  Is that the one where you had to like, pull shit out of your nose?

• 57:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. They, yeah, it was, I was on the road with Tommy, and I would show him the boogers. And he would like, like, almost vomit, because the boogers were insane. So once you get your nose operated on, like, I had. Probably 12 nose breaks, maybe more by the time I got my nose operated on. So the inside of it was all calcified, like all the inside, just like cauliflower ear. That was the inside of my nose. Like it was all just clogged. I spoke like my nose was stuffed. This was how my voice was.

• 58:31Speaker 01

  Wait, hold on. Is this, cause I heard, I listened to a version of your voice when you were younger.

• 58:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 58:38Speaker 01

  And it sounds totally different.

• 58:39Joe Rogan?

  It's also getting older. Your voice definitely deeper. So that's me with the.

• 58:43Speaker 01

  Wait, that's you?

• 58:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, when I got the nose plugs. So that's after the operation. So, um.

• 58:50Speaker 01

  Oh my god, look how big your nose is.

• 58:52Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's all swollen.

• 58:53Speaker 01

  I know.

• 58:55Joe Rogan?

  Anyway, so you, if you have a deviated septum, I can't recommend it enough. It's such a huge thing to do. It opens up your nose and you get like 10% more cardio. My jujitsu changed totally. Like my, my gas in jujitsu was way better. I was like, this is crazy. Why didn't I do this a long time ago?

• 59:15Speaker 01

  For breathing through your nose and not your mouth?

• 59:17Joe Rogan?

  No, cause you breathe through both.

• 59:18Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 59:18Joe Rogan?

  So you have more airs coming in.

• 59:20Speaker 01

  This is how you tell if you have a deviated septum. Put a mirror underneath or put, take your phone and do a video. And then breathe through your nose. And if it closes, like my, mine shuts.

• 59:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 59:30Speaker 01

  And that's the, showed that to me.

• 59:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you have a deviated septum for sure.

• 59:33Speaker 01

  You know what happens to me when I sleep. My fucking goosel swells up.

• 59:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you were telling me.

• 59:38Speaker 01

  It's the fucking worst.

• 59:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we were trying to decide where the tonsils were and you were explaining the tonsils are actually on the side. And your wife was calling it a goosel.

• 59:46Speaker 01

  She's a redneck.

• 59:47Joe Rogan?

  She's this little.

• 59:48Speaker 01

  She goes, this goosel got swollen.

• 59:49Joe Rogan?

  Thing, whatever the word is, the technical word.

• 59:51Speaker 01

  It's a uvula. It's, it's uvulitis.

• 59:53Joe Rogan?

  So I put the mouthpiece in and then I.

• 59:56Speaker 01

  I get no, I get no uvulitis if I had a mouth tape in.

• 59:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. So this is the thing, I don't snore at all anymore. Zero snoring. Like I'm silent.

• 1:00:04Speaker 01

  No, no, no sleep mask.

• 1:00:06Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no, I don't have anything.

• 1:00:08Speaker 01

  You don't believe in this.

• 1:00:09Joe Rogan?

  But I woke up, the first day I did it, I was like, holy shit. I feel so much better, like instantaneously noticed the difference, like I was like thirty percent more rested. Something like that, like I felt just like a significant number where I could like feel it. I was like, whoa, and I've been doing it that way for like a week now.

• 1:00:28Speaker 01

  So if I put, if I put those nose strips on, cause I can breathe through my nose if I have a-

• 1:00:32Joe Rogan?

  You should get your nose operated on.

• 1:00:33Speaker 01

  No fucking way.

• 1:00:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:34Speaker 01

  Dude, I have a hernia, I'm not gonna get done.

• 1:00:36Joe Rogan?

  You should get that done too.

• 1:00:37Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:00:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you should.

• 1:00:38Speaker 01

  It's the worst.

• 1:00:39Joe Rogan?

  Your guts are gonna poke out of your stomach, that's what it is.

• 1:00:42Speaker 01

  They already do, Joe.

• 1:00:42Joe Rogan?

  That's gross, no, but your guts guts, not fat.

• 1:00:45Speaker 01

  They do, Joe.

• 1:00:46Joe Rogan?

  Do they poke out right now? Hey, let me see.

• 1:00:48Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:00:48Joe Rogan?

  Show me. Can you make it poke out?

• 1:00:51Speaker 01

  No, but if I go like, you can kinda see this.

• 1:00:55Joe Rogan?

  Where's the hernia?

• 1:00:56Speaker 01

  It's called, it's like a fin.

• 1:00:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:00:58Speaker 01

  It's, oh, it's bad. If I do a sit up, like I'll show you for real, and you'll, you'll see it.

• 1:01:03Joe Rogan?

  Okay. I'm watching Bert do a sit up, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, that's scary, dude. That's, so that's a rip in the center of your stomach?

• 1:01:13Speaker 01

  I remember when it happened.

• 1:01:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh, dude, how long ago?

• 1:01:17Speaker 01

  Uh, probably twelve years ago.

• 1:01:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, man.

• 1:01:20Speaker 01

  I was doing a tough mutter.

• 1:01:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh, god.

• 1:01:23Speaker 01

  I had to pull myself up one of those half pipes. And so I ran and I grabbed it and I pulled and I pulled and I felt a tear and I was like, whoa. It's just, and I was like, god, man, that fucking hurt, what, what happened? And I was like, eh, I'm fine. And then like, two, I wanna say like, two weeks later, I'm laying in bed with my wife and I kinda lean up and I see it. And I go, oh, fuck, what's this? And then, and then a bunch of dads get it, like some dudes get it when they just gain a lot of weight. That's another way to get it, but like I've never been that fat, but, uh- Tommy, I think Tommy might have had one.

• 1:02:00Joe Rogan?

  Eddie Bravo had two.

• 1:02:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, they say it's elective.

• 1:02:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he had to get it, Eddie had to get it fixed.

• 1:02:06Speaker 01

  My problem is, I'd get it fixed, but then I'm afraid of the aftermath of the surgery of 13 weeks of recovery of me not working out, I'm gonna go fucking haywire.

• 1:02:14Joe Rogan?

  You don't have to go haywire, that's nonsense. You should get it fixed. You should get it fixed, and get your nose fixed, too. Just get it fixed, just bite the bullet. Don't live with a compromised body. They know how to fix those things. You should get it fixed.

• 1:02:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:26Joe Rogan?

  Like, the nose thing's giant. Breathe out of your nose, you change your fucking life. I couldn't do yoga class, the instructor, he would get mad at me. He'd like, "You have to breathe out of your nose." I'm like, "I don't have a nose. It doesn't work." Like, it doesn't work. My nose, I had like one quarter of one nostril. That was the only thing that was open.

• 1:02:46Speaker 01

  For, oh, for real?

• 1:02:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, my right side was completely closed.

• 1:02:49Speaker 01

  It was just...

• 1:02:50Joe Rogan?

  Well, Luke Rockhold, former UFC champion, had a post that he did about his nose recently, where they were like, going through his nose with one of those cameras.

• 1:03:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:02Joe Rogan?

  And so you could see like what's in there. It's the same thing. It says, "His is completely clogged up." Like, you hear Justin Gagey talk, his nose is totally clogged up. Like, there's a lot of the, and Justin actually got his nose fixed. And then he fought Max Holloway, and I think that might have put it back again.

• 1:03:18Speaker 01

  Oh my god. How long, what's a nose surgery, what's the...

• 1:03:21Joe Rogan?

  I was doing jiu-jitsu six weeks later.

• 1:03:23Speaker 01

  Okay, you're Joe, and I'm Burt.

• 1:03:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but I mean, six weeks later, I was fine. I didn't take any pain pills. No, I wasn't, I mean, I was fine to roll, but I was fine, fine, the next day. Yeah, I had to have those stupid fucking things in my nose for a while. I forget how long that lasted. But then when they pulled those out, I was good to go. But the doctor, I remember this, the doctor gave me two pain pill prescriptions. He was insistent on giving me these pain pill prescriptions. And I was like, "Okay." I go, "But it doesn't hurt now, so is it gonna hurt more later?" And he's like, "It might." I go, "But it might not, right?"

• 1:04:01Joe Rogan?

  He goes, but you should have these. Like, he wanted to write me these pain pill prescriptions. I was like, this is kinda creeping me out, man.

• 1:04:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:07Joe Rogan?

  Cause I had already known a bunch of people that had pill problems back then. But it was just weird that he wanted to write me two of them. And I told him, I go, listen, I just had knee surgery, um, a couple of months ago. And I go, and I didn't, it wasn't even a couple of years ago, rather, and I didn't take any pain medication. I go, I don't like it. I just did it. I just had the surgery and then just dealt with the pain. I'd rather deal with the pain than that feeling. I don't like that feeling. Yeah, I got ACL surgery like way back in the day and they gave me like Vicodins or one of those type of things. Percocets or Vicodins, I forget what it was. But I remember feeling so stupid. I was like, well, this is not for me. Like, whatever this is, I'd rather be in pain than have my fucking brain just filled with like cotton.

• 1:04:51Joe Rogan?

  It just felt like it was just like clogged up. Like, it couldn't, it wouldn't work right. Like, it was terrible.

• 1:04:58Speaker 01

  Tommy not like that.

• 1:04:59Joe Rogan?

  But my doctor, he just wanted me to take these pills.

• 1:05:03Speaker 01

  I think it's that, I, you know, you were talking to me about statins for a while and you were saying that, I don't know, you were saying or whatever I read was that it, these companies are getting, these doctors are getting paid out to, to get people on statins. The, the companies are saying, yo, get people on statins, we'll pay you out, you know.

• 1:05:19Joe Rogan?

  Doctors get a variety of rewards, I'm finding out. They get a variety of rewards dependent upon how many people in their practice get vaccinated. And if they lose a certain percentage, if they like have less than a certain percentage, then they don't get payouts. It's, there's some weird shit that's involved in medicine. That's financial incentives that don't necessarily align up with, you know, your best health. And I think that doctors profit off of providing people with pain pills. Especially when you have a legitimate reason to wanna take pain pills. But I really don't think you should take them. At least I don't take, I, I just don't, I think if you have something horrible wrong with you and you're in agony all day, I totally understand.

• 1:06:04Joe Rogan?

  But for a regular thing, like you hurt your back a little bit, so now you're on OxyContin, like.

• 1:06:09Speaker 01

  That's what happened to me. I got, I got pretty much addicted to them. Cause I fell off that waterfall.

• 1:06:14Joe Rogan?

  Get everybody.

• 1:06:15Speaker 01

  Dude, they get you?

• 1:06:16Joe Rogan?

  They get everybody.

• 1:06:17Speaker 01

  It's, it's, I, I can tell you the moment it happened was we had to go to dinner with my wife's friends and I didn't wanna go and we weren't drinking. And I remember thinking, I wonder if I double up on my pain pills. That'll get me through tonight. And I did, and man, it was an enjoyable fucking night. And I smoked a little weed and I was fucking perfect. The next morning I woke up, Leanne found out. We were going camping that weekend. And I reached over to get my pills, because the first thing I did in bed, grab a pill, pop a pill, lay there for a while. Went over, my pills were gone, and Leanne was at the foot of the bed. She goes, "You're done, big boy." And I was like, I go, "Hold on." This is like negotiating, like junky negotiating. I go, "Hold on, baby, we're going camping. Like, we're gonna be, we're gonna be sleeping on the hard ground." And she goes, "Nope."

• 1:07:03Speaker 01

  She goes, "Go get as much weed as you want, drink as much as you want, get through the pain that way. These things are fucking poison."

• 1:07:08Joe Rogan?

  They're scary.

• 1:07:09Speaker 01

  They're scary because you don't even realize what you look like to other people. We went, we went to Hawaii with the family one time. And, uh, and we went to the luau. I wasn't, I wasn't drinking in Hawaii that trip for whatever reason. And I, but I was bummed at the luau, because I was like, everyone's getting like, you know, these Mai Tais, and I'm drinking water. And I was, and I looked, and this mom was clearly on oxies. And you watched her nod out at the table. And there's, man, when you see something like that, and you're not drinking, you're like, "Thank God I'm not fucking drinking." I remember watching her nod out, and her whole family sees it, and you're, and she's like...

• 1:07:46Joe Rogan?

  What dude, is, what percentage of this country is hooked on oxies right now? It's gotta be, uh, like a scary percentage.

• 1:07:53Speaker 01

  I bet it's, what do you think's more, oxies or Xanax? Xanax is like, Xanax is totally plausible. Take a Xanax, you're gonna be fine. My, my cardiologist, uh, Dr. Gaddan, shout out to Dr. Gaddan, he's a big fan of yours. But he told me, he said, I said something about Xanax, and he goes, "Hey, man, I'm your doctor, don't ever fucking take those things." I was like, "Really?" He goes, "This is the leading cause of dementia. Do not take fucking Xanax."

• 1:08:20Joe Rogan?

  Xanax is the leading cause of dementia?

• 1:08:21Speaker 01

  He said, he was like, by the way, I apologize, Dr. Gaddan, I give you a shout out, and he's like, "That's not my exact words, Bert, goddammit."

• 1:08:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you might have fucked that up. We might want to delete that.

• 1:08:29Speaker 01

  No, he said, he said, "Your brain, it turns your brain to mush."

• 1:08:32Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's definitely not good for your brain. It's one, one of the most dangerous drugs to get off.

• 1:08:36Speaker 01

  Oh, they won't, they won't admit you to rehab if you, if you're on benzos.

• 1:08:40Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:08:40Speaker 01

  Like, I, we took a friend to rehab one time, and the one question they asked, "Have you taken a benzo in the last 24 hours?" And he was like, "Yeah," and they're like, "Nope, can't take you." They don't want to deal with the, there's, it is so dangerous to get off benzos.

• 1:08:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's one of the, there's only a few things that people die if they get addicted to, and then you cut them off. One of them is alcohol. You know?

• 1:09:00Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:09:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:01Speaker 01

  I think you have to drink like when you wake up.

• 1:09:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, you have to be a complete drunk. And somehow or another, your body shifts into surviving drinking alcohol a time. You're killing yourself for sure, but your body relies on it. I forget what the mechanism is, but there's an actual mechanism. There's some sort of a shift when your body's got so much alcohol. And then when you get off alcohol entirely, you can die.

• 1:09:24Speaker 01

  Oh, you have a stroke?

• 1:09:25Joe Rogan?

  I don't know what the cause of death is, but I know that benzos is another drug that does that. When you get off of it, you can die. Like, it's one of those things that if you just cold turkey benzos, if you're popping Xanax all day long and you're like, I'm done. Like, you can die.

• 1:09:41Speaker 01

  It's crazy what how how clean life is when you're not partying.

• 1:09:45Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:09:46Speaker 01

  Like, you haven't drank in two weeks. It's like amazing how the sky looks different, the trees look different.

• 1:09:51Joe Rogan?

  Well, you have more energy.

• 1:09:52Speaker 01

  So much. The gym is night and day different.

• 1:09:55Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:09:55Speaker 01

  Like, I work out every day regardless, ran five miles today, drank last night on the plane, five miles today. And now I feel clean, but then I go, if I don't drink tonight, which I doubt I probably will. What are we talking about? Who are we lying to, though? But if I but like the next day, I feel like a million bucks. You get me in the gym and I want to be on the treadmill. And I'm excited for fucking those those sissy squats you do.

• 1:10:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:20Speaker 01

  I love those bitches. I got the the board.

• 1:10:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yes.

• 1:10:24Speaker 01

  Get a fucking.

• 1:10:24Joe Rogan?

  Slant board squats.

• 1:10:25Speaker 01

  Slant board squat, get a forty five fucking weight in my arms.

• 1:10:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:28Speaker 01

  Do fifteen of those bitches.

• 1:10:30Joe Rogan?

  Those are great.

• 1:10:30Speaker 01

  And you feel it, and you're like, that last one. You want my favorite squat to do is, what's the one where you you lean back and you squat when you're tilted back?

• 1:10:40Joe Rogan?

  Squat, lean back? It's called bad form?

• 1:10:43Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

• 1:10:45Joe Rogan?

  It's called back injury waiting to happen? Lean back and squat? That sounds crazy.

• 1:10:49Speaker 01

  Like a landmine squat or something, where you have the the pole, you have the.

• 1:10:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, OK, yeah, landmine, yeah.

• 1:10:56Speaker 01

  And you and you get deep into that bitch?

• 1:10:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, those are great. Those are great for like rotational force, too.

• 1:11:01Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:11:04Joe Rogan?

  You know Viking shit, you know what I'm saying?

• 1:11:07Speaker 01

  I'm always impressed when a man can program his own workout.

• 1:11:10Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:11:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz I can't pr- like if you

• 1:11:13Joe Rogan?

  You don't do your own workouts?

• 1:11:14Speaker 01

  No, I have a guy pr- uh program for me.

• 1:11:17Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so-

• 1:11:18Speaker 01

  He comes to my house and trains me every day.

• 1:11:20Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:11:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:21Joe Rogan?

  Wow, so you don't work out on your own at all?

• 1:11:23Speaker 01

  Uh, if I work out on my own, I run.

• 1:11:26Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so you must like that, right? Where you get alone time. You must like that.

• 1:11:29Speaker 01

  I love, I love getting on the treadmill by myself and just fucking going.

• 1:11:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, alone time's big. So tha- that's what I like the most about like working out by myself. Like I can figure out what to do. I know what to do.

• 1:11:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:44Joe Rogan?

  So I just program my own shit.

• 1:11:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think that's impressive. I tell you what-

• 1:11:47Joe Rogan?

  There's so much shit to do.

• 1:11:48Speaker 01

  The game changer for me in working out, and I think that, you know, I- I never understood, uh, like guys like Cam or David Goggins and then they push themselves so hard. And when we did that bench press competition, I realized, most of the time when everyone works, the regular person works out, they just wanna get through it and be done with it. They're like, I know, I cheated a little bit, fuck it, I was 12. But when you're training for something, and this must be like this with mixed martial artists and with, uh, with all those motherfuckers, you're, you're training your body for an actual event.

• 1:12:20Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:12:20Speaker 01

  To protect yourself from other men.

• 1:12:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:22Speaker 01

  And I was like, and when I had a goal in mind, I was like, oh, this is different. Like I'm doing everything he's telling me to do, and I'm doing it the right way, and I'm doing it to, to like failure, because I'm train- if I know that if I do that, then when I get to the day where I do the bench, I can then complete the mission I'm set out to do.

• 1:12:40Joe Rogan?

  Right, you got a goal.

• 1:12:41Speaker 01

  I think more goal oriented workout, if they said like, dude, just so you know, a wolf's coming to your house in two weeks.

• 1:12:47Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:12:48Speaker 01

  You know, we need to work out, get ready for that wolf.

• 1:12:49Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:12:50Speaker 01

  You'd work out so hard.

• 1:12:51Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:12:52Speaker 01

  For that fucking wolf.

• 1:12:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I'd be like, fuck.

• 1:12:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:55Joe Rogan?

  Dude.

• 1:12:57Joe Rogan?

  I tell you about my friend in Colorado, they let wolves loose near his land.

• 1:13:01Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:13:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they just let wolves loose in Colorado. Um, they let a bunch loose in one part of the state and then they let a bunch more loose. He said it was five, I don't know if that's accurate. But that's what he was told and uh.

• 1:13:17Speaker 01

  For what purpose, just?

• 1:13:18Joe Rogan?

  They've decided to repopulate the state with wolves. And they're getting wolves from like British Columbia, these big ass fucking Canadian wolves. They're coming in fucking the elk up. And uh, this is outside of Aspen, so these are like all these really wealthy people.

• 1:13:34Speaker 01

  Holy shit.

• 1:13:34Joe Rogan?

  And they let wolves loose on their property. And by the way, there's livestock there, these people have cattle, they have, they have all sorts of. So far, the wolves in his area haven't attacked cattle. Because there's an abundance of elk up there, it's a very, it's a big elk corridor where the elk migrate. And um, I took a picture and posted it up on Instagram of an elk leg that he found. Just like within two weeks of them being released. They had already started killing elk on, on his property. So a wolf took out an elk and left the leg, left the leg bone, uh, just laying in the snow.

• 1:14:11Speaker 01

  Wait, how many wolves did they let go?

• 1:14:12Joe Rogan?

  Five, he thinks, this is what he told me.

• 1:14:15Speaker 01

  Do they release them as a pack?

• 1:14:17Joe Rogan?

  Um, I don't know if they will pack up, I don't know if they knew each other before, I don't know what the fucking neighborhood.

• 1:14:25Speaker 01

  Did they grow up together?

• 1:14:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so that's what we found.

• 1:14:28Speaker 01

  Oh shit.

• 1:14:30Joe Rogan?

  So that's um, an elk leg that's just been stripped down, the lower leg, no meat on it. Just the hoof and some, some fur and shit. It's laying in a bunch of, just a bunch of disturbed areas, it was all fucked up, but you could tell some shit went down. So we found that piece there, they, they had dragged that from somewhere else. But there was a carcass up there too, so they, they basically, um, you know, can kill.

• 1:14:57Joe Rogan?

  They could probably kill one or two elk a day and they probably will do that now. And so the elk population will rapidly diminish. The elk have no idea. They've never evolved around wolves. These elk's, they're, these elk are in like, who knows how many generations with no wolves. So, the United States had wolves all throughout the West and then they eradicated them because they fucking kill everything. Cause they kill livestock, they kill horses, they pack up, they get big, they get big packs and then they devastate livestock. Sheep herders, cattle. So they all murdered all the wolves. So now, these people, these greenies, these little cutie pies, decided to bring back the most intelligent,

• 1:15:42Joe Rogan?

  telepathic apex predator that operates in packs. And you decided to let them loose near a ski town. Like, congratulations.

• 1:15:51Speaker 01

  Why the fuck?

• 1:15:53Joe Rogan?

  Cause, because they're cute. Because these are people that grew up in cities and they don't understand. It's called ballot box biology. It's a bunch of people who grew up in the city. They don't know what the fuck they're doing. And they don't know what a wolf really is. They just think, wildlife's amazing. And then, so you've let loose apex predators in an area where nothing is prepared for them. They don't, these animals don't know to look for wolves. They've never experienced a wolf before. They don't have a natural instinct to run away when they see the wolves. They don't know what the fuck is going on.

• 1:16:25Speaker 01

  And you can't tell wolves what to kill either.

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• 1:18:34Joe Rogan?

  That's better H E L P dot com. Well, here's even better. The first ones they got, so they had a mandate to get these, Colorado voted, they voted it to release wolves. And so the governor had to get it done within a certain period of time. And so they got wolves from Oregon that had been killing cattle. So these wolves, they captured them because they had been killing cattle and then they released them in Colorado where they, wait for it.

• 1:19:05Joe Rogan?

  Started killing cows.

• 1:19:06Speaker 01

  Oh shit.

• 1:19:07Joe Rogan?

  Duh. So wolves are awesome, but they were making their way into Colorado by themselves. They were already coming down from Wyoming. There's wolves in Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, and they were making their way down naturally. But these idiots decided to accelerate the process and introduce this completely new element outside of a fucking ski town. That's gonna kill people's dogs, for sure. If they get to a healthy population, you're never gonna be able to let your dog go outside.

• 1:19:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:34Joe Rogan?

  It's over. Cats, dead. Everybody dead.

• 1:19:37Speaker 01

  They're like 10 times worse than coyotes. You remember coyotes just-

• 1:19:39Joe Rogan?

  They're giant coyotes.

• 1:19:40Speaker 01

  You ever seen coyotes jump fences?

• 1:19:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah.

• 1:19:42Speaker 01

  And you're like, there's no protecting my chickens from fucking coyotes.

• 1:19:45Joe Rogan?

  I saw a coyote jump a fence with one of my chickens in its mouth. Jumped a, uh, six foot high wrought iron fence like it was nothing. Pow! Touched the top of the fence with its feet with a chicken in its mouth. And right over the top, I was like, whoa. I was so delusional. I thought like, oh, this fence is this big. They can't get over that. Dude, one jump, one jump, feet, feet to the top, other feet to the top, over the top with a chicken in his mouth.

• 1:20:11Speaker 01

  All my neighbors have red lights on their fences. That's the only thing that stops coyotes, I say.

• 1:20:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they won't jump over a red light?

• 1:20:16Speaker 01

  I have no fucking idea. But they all have like, it looks like a red bicycle light on every panel of their fence.

• 1:20:23Joe Rogan?

  They're little monsters.

• 1:20:24Speaker 01

  What state-

• 1:20:24Joe Rogan?

  They're wolves too, by the way.

• 1:20:25Speaker 01

  They are?

• 1:20:26Joe Rogan?

  Coyotes are wolves. Yeah, they're small wolves.

• 1:20:28Speaker 01

  I remember, you know, it's funny, the little things you remember. I remember you talking about the coyotes honeydicking your dog one time.

• 1:20:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:20:34Speaker 01

  I, I always think that's the funniest phrase, honeydicking.

• 1:20:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they try to honeydick your dog. So they, what they do is they, one coyote, I've told this story before, but I'll say it quick. I went to, um, this, um, pet store that I used to go to. And, uh, one of the guys that worked in the pet store, yeah, he was a veterinarian. And he brought in, uh, someone had brought in this, uh, pit bull that was covered in cuts. Like his whole body was like hundreds of stitches. And he's like, what happened? He goes like, I don't know. He got out. And then, you know, when, when I came home, he was outside the fence and this is what he looked like. So this guy, they stitched the dog up and then he follows a blood trail into the woods outside of his house where he finds nine dead coyotes.

• 1:21:20Joe Rogan?

  So they they honey dicked, oh, you know, a giant pit bull. Like, one of them super jacked, muscular pit bulls with a fucking fire hydrant head.

• 1:21:30Speaker 01

  The kind that are on the front of rap albums.

• 1:21:31Joe Rogan?

  Terrifying pit bull. And this pit bull just killed everyone. They've they fucked with the John Wick of pit bulls. And he just, he just killed them all, killed all the coyotes. They were all ju- he said it looked like Vietnam. He said they were just torn apart. Cause once the dog killed them, he's not gonna stop, he's gonna start shaking them. You know, picking especially a pit bull like that that's in a blood rage to just kill, fight for its life. Like, he was probably so happy. Like, so happy to do this, cause pit bulls just wanna fight all the time.

• 1:22:02Speaker 01

  I've been wanting to do this every fucking day I wake up.

• 1:22:06Joe Rogan?

  It was a guy who's a jujitsu black belt and a drunk grabs him, and was like, "Thank you. Thank you. I've been practicing for this my whole life." But you imagine the scene? Imagine the scene, just walk, it's seen just dead coyotes, just ripped apart. Just throats torn open, guts hanging out, legs broken. Cause this dog, if a dog like that bites a coyote's leg, that leg's broken. That's a shattered leg. That leg doesn't work anymore.

• 1:22:35Speaker 01

  The poundage that pit bulls bite is fucking wild.

• 1:22:37Joe Rogan?

  Propo- you know what a wolf is? It's like five times stronger.

• 1:22:40Speaker 01

  Are you shitting me?

• 1:22:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. That's how, that's how crazy these retards are, that let loose these apex telepathic super predators into a ski town. Well, filled with super rich people. And the super rich people, right now, they're finding out about this, they are freaking the fuck out.

• 1:22:57Speaker 01

  I bet they are.

• 1:22:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. All my, my buddy who lives out there, all his neighbors, they're all trying to figure out what they can do. You know, they're all collared too. So there's an app, and you can get on the app and find out where the monsters are. Yeah, you wanna get scared?

• 1:23:11Speaker 01

  I wanna get, hang on, I gotta get that app. I gotta get that app.

• 1:23:13Joe Rogan?

  How about you're walking, and then you see the fucking app is showing you they're behind you. All five of them behind you, and you're with your family. But maybe you voted on that because you think wolves are amazing. That's Little Red Riding Hood, bro.

• 1:23:32Speaker 01

  We can track these wolves on an app.

• 1:23:34Joe Rogan?

  You can track them on an app.

• 1:23:36Speaker 01

  That's kinda cool.

• 1:23:37Joe Rogan?

  It's kinda cool to know where the monsters are, but they-

• 1:23:39Speaker 01

  They do that with sharks, great white sharks.

• 1:23:41Joe Rogan?

  But these, uh, people in the neighborhood are all tracking these wolves. So they're all freaking out because these wolves are like circling their homes. Circling their property.

• 1:23:49Speaker 01

  Fuck.

• 1:23:49Joe Rogan?

  Wolves, some of them have gone right through, uh, fields with cattle and not done anything about it. Yeah, they don't even understand why. They haven't attacked any cattle yet. Um, but these are ones that are outside of Aspen. So, um, the ones that they brought in from Oregon, that's not outside of Aspen. That's a different spot. Those are the ones that were, they were depredation tags. They were, they were already, uh, killing wildlife. Or they were killing cattle.

• 1:24:13Speaker 01

  What state do you think has the most predators? Like Australia has the most predators in the world. In the country? In our country, yeah.

• 1:24:20Joe Rogan?

  I would say Alaska for sure.

• 1:24:22Speaker 01

  Florida.

• 1:24:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. That's a good call.

• 1:24:25Speaker 01

  Florida's fucking crazy.

• 1:24:26Joe Rogan?

  Florida, now, cause you brought in reptiles. Yeah, a hundred percent. Florida has more pythons, uh, in it, in the Everglades than all the rest of the world.

• 1:24:36Speaker 01

  Yeah. Do you see those kids that go in, you see those kids that dive in and grab them?

• 1:24:40Joe Rogan?

  I had Python Cowboy on the show. He brought me up. Don't we have a python head laying around here somewhere? Something?

• 1:24:48Speaker 01

  Oh, look at that. Look at that.

• 1:24:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:50Speaker 01

  Apex predator, Florida is-

• 1:24:52Joe Rogan?

  Florida's jacked.

• 1:24:53Speaker 01

  If no one even comes close to Florida.

• 1:24:54Joe Rogan?

  No one's even close. Wait a minute. What's Maine?

• 1:24:56Speaker 01

  Maine?

• 1:24:57Joe Rogan?

  Why does Maine? What is it?

• 1:25:03Speaker 01

  Vermont?

• 1:25:05Joe Rogan?

  Um-

• 1:25:06Speaker 01

  That's gotta be-

• 1:25:07Joe Rogan?

  Right. Okay, so the, the one with the boot-

• 1:25:09Speaker 01

  Well, this is not good, guys.

• 1:25:11Joe Rogan?

  The, the boot is Massachusetts, right? Or no, that's New York. Yeah, hold on. We're so stupid. You know who could draw the whole map by, by hand? Al Franken.

• 1:25:22Speaker 01

  Vermont?

• 1:25:22Joe Rogan?

  Okay, yeah, it's Massachusetts is the one-

• 1:25:24Speaker 01

  What predators are in Vermont?

• 1:25:24Joe Rogan?

  With the hook. Okay, so Vermont predators. Yeah, what predators are in Vermont? There must be like wolverines and shit. Oh, red and gray foxes. Coyotes, black bears, fishers, bobcats, and red and gray foxes. With wolves and lynx also present, although the latter are rare. Ladder.

• 1:25:42Speaker 01

  Good God.

• 1:25:42Joe Rogan?

  Interesting.

• 1:25:43Speaker 01

  I remember, yeah, I, I-

• 1:25:44Joe Rogan?

  Black bears.

• 1:25:45Speaker 01

  I said the other day on Instagram, I was, I had my hose all wrapped up. And I was like, I don't know if this is from, because I'm from Florida, but I never put my hand into a hose bucket without kicking it a couple times.

• 1:25:56Joe Rogan?

  When you say I got my hose all wrapped up, I thought you had your ladies making money.

• 1:26:00Speaker 01

  My hose doesn't make any money.

• 1:26:02Joe Rogan?

  Wrapped up, they're making that money. I got my hose wrapped up.

• 1:26:06Speaker 01

  Have you ever had rattlesnake on your property out here? You have?

• 1:26:10Joe Rogan?

  Out here, we've had one.

• 1:26:14Joe Rogan?

  One of my neighbors had a couple coral snakes in her garage. Those are scary.

• 1:26:19Speaker 01

  Coral snakes are the ones that look like.

• 1:26:21Joe Rogan?

  Red and black.

• 1:26:21Speaker 01

  But it's like.

• 1:26:22Joe Rogan?

  Beautiful.

• 1:26:22Speaker 01

  Black and yellow kill a fellow, red and. Red, white and blue.

• 1:26:28Joe Rogan?

  Miracle.

• 1:26:31Joe Rogan?

  I don't know what the, but my old house in California, there was a bunch of them.

• 1:26:35Speaker 01

  Your old house was in the, in the wilderness.

• 1:26:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I was, I was in a place where there was a lot of.

• 1:26:41Speaker 01

  Red touches yellow, kill a fellow, red touches black, venom, lack.

• 1:26:45Joe Rogan?

  What does that mean?

• 1:26:45Speaker 01

  Uh, there's no venom.

• 1:26:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh, to help identify venomous coral snakes. Oh, I see.

• 1:26:51Speaker 01

  Cause I think.

• 1:26:51Joe Rogan?

  So some coral snakes are not venomous?

• 1:26:53Speaker 01

  No, it's a, it's a.

• 1:26:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, that's what it looked like.

• 1:26:56Speaker 01

  It's, no, it's a king snake. A scarlet king snake is harmless. Coral snakes are deadly.

• 1:27:01Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:27:01Speaker 01

  And so we had both in Florida, I think. So you never got near either of them.

• 1:27:05Joe Rogan?

  But that, go back to that image, Jamie. The one on the top, red touches yellow, kill a fellow. That's it. So that's the one that'll kill it. Red touches black, scarlet king snake harmless. Interesting.

• 1:27:19Speaker 01

  I'm not gonna roll the dice on that.

• 1:27:20Joe Rogan?

  I would not remember this. I would fuck that up.

• 1:27:22Speaker 01

  I'd be like.

• 1:27:23Joe Rogan?

  That thing looks like it will fucking for sure kill you.

• 1:27:26Speaker 01

  Red touches black, step back, what? Yellow, yellow, black and yellow.

• 1:27:29Joe Rogan?

  Touches yellow, kill a fellow. That's the one. That's all you have to remember. Red touches yellow, kill a fellow.

• 1:27:33Speaker 01

  Black and yellow, black and yellow.

• 1:27:34Joe Rogan?

  That's red touches yellow. Fuck that creature. Um, so my friend, uh, she had two of them in her, in her garage. Yeah, not good.

• 1:27:43Speaker 01

  Not good.

• 1:27:43Joe Rogan?

  But, um, my old house, my, remember, do you, did you ever meet Frank? You never met Frank. You're pre, I used to have this pit bull named Frank Sinatra and Frank would.

• 1:27:53Speaker 01

  I only knew Johnny.

• 1:27:54Joe Rogan?

  Frank killed everything. Everything that got in that yard was dead.

• 1:27:58Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:27:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he was a psycho. And, uh, he would kill rattlesnakes all the time. So he'd get bit all the time. So.

• 1:28:06Speaker 01

  I'm like, wait, how did he not get? He got bit.

• 1:28:08Joe Rogan?

  Every time. So I'd have, I have to keep bringing him to the fucking vet. I brought him to the vet like at least three times. And one time I had to bring him twice because he got to, he had been stung, he'd been bit by rattlesnakes so many times that he had developed some sort of an immunity. So I brought him the first time and we're all, we're at the vet, he was super friendly. He was the sweetest dog, loved everybody, but like vicious with snakes and lizards. Lizards are like his video game. He would like jump on the walls to try to get the lizards that were crawling on the walls. He would leap, fucking leap into the air to try to get these lizards. So, uh, I brought him to the vet and the vet's like, I don't see a puncture mark and he's not swelling, so I wouldn't worry about it. And I'm like, wow, how the fuck did you kill that snake and not get bit? And then I brought him back to the house and then

• 1:28:53Joe Rogan?

  his face immediately swol back up again. So then I had to bring him back to the vet and the vet's like, he's been stung, he's been bit so many times that he probably has some sort of a immunity.

• 1:29:02Speaker 01

  Jesus.

• 1:29:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:04Speaker 03

  It's a coral snake too, that doesn't go by the

• 1:29:06Joe Rogan?

  That is so beautiful.

• 1:29:08Speaker 03

  One of the most venomous snakes in the world.

• 1:29:09Joe Rogan?

  God, I would assume that would fuck you up.

• 1:29:12Speaker 03

  It kills king cobras apparently.

• 1:29:13Joe Rogan?

  It kills king cobras. Look how beautiful it is. Somewhere, there's some idiot in Florida in a death metal band that wants this. And he's gonna have it in his house until he can't feed it anymore. It's like, little fella, gonna let you go. And he's gonna let it loose and it's gonna go in the fucking Everglades and then you're gonna have a half a million of them there.

• 1:29:31Speaker 01

  The, uh, you know Slash had poisonous snakes in his house.

• 1:29:33Joe Rogan?

  Of course he did. Look at him.

• 1:29:35Speaker 01

  And then there was an earthquake.

• 1:29:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh, great.

• 1:29:37Speaker 01

  I read that, I think I read that in one of their books, or I talked to Slash once about it.

• 1:29:41Joe Rogan?

  They got out?

• 1:29:41Speaker 01

  And I think they got out and they had to send someone in the house to, I can't remember exactly, but he, there was an earthquake and he had like a cobra.

• 1:29:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh, God.

• 1:29:49Speaker 01

  Yeah. There's, I, I don't understand, I mean, I understand wanting to have a snake, but poisonous snakes, I can't wrap my head around.

• 1:29:55Joe Rogan?

  No, no.

• 1:29:56Speaker 01

  You can never touch it. You can never play with it.

• 1:29:58Joe Rogan?

  Fuck all snakes. How about that? How about all that? How about snakes are the reason why we wear clothes? A snake tricked Eve into eating that fucking apple and now we're ruined. All right? Now we have to have Jesus come save us.

• 1:30:12Speaker 01

  You definitely looked like you would have gone through a lizard phase though.

• 1:30:14Joe Rogan?

  No. Well, I, listen.

• 1:30:18Joe Rogan?

  I had one idea that was the dumbest idea.

• 1:30:22Speaker 01

  The snake eye.

• 1:30:24Joe Rogan?

  What is going on?

• 1:30:25Speaker 01

  Uh, the cop doesn't want to.

• 1:30:26Joe Rogan?

  He's got snakes?

• 1:30:27Speaker 01

  Oh, this is the wrong cop to pull a snake eye with?

• 1:30:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, you're right. I'll stand right here.

• 1:30:33Speaker 05

  Now, now wait a minute. You don't understand how many there are.

• 1:30:37Speaker 04

  Dude.

• 1:30:37Speaker 05

  You see all them snakes right there?

• 1:30:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:30:40Speaker 05

  You see them snakes right there?

• 1:30:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:30:42Speaker 05

  They're my babies. I care more about them snakes than I do a human life. Just like that, man. They'll snakes mean more.

• 1:30:51Speaker 01

  Look, he's already out the door. He's like, "Uh, sure thing, buddy."

• 1:30:57Joe Rogan?

  So I had this one idea once. Uh, I had this house that was like, it had like a center courtyard. And I was gonna seal off the center courtyard and get a crocodile monitor.

• 1:31:10Speaker 01

  Bad ass fucking monitor.

• 1:31:12Joe Rogan?

  And feed it rabbits. And have like a wild kingdom in the center of my house.

• 1:31:17Speaker 01

  I love it.

• 1:31:18Joe Rogan?

  So I was gonna set up trees, because it had like open air. So I was like, I'm gonna set up a canopy, trap it in there like a greenhouse, make it nice and warm, so it's an environment. Put trees up everywhere and then just let shit loose and watch.

• 1:31:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:31:29Joe Rogan?

  Then I was like, "That's so fucked up." It's like, and I started thinking like, "What's wrong with you?" It's like if I started thinking about me going, like, I didn't like me. Like, imagine taking someone, one of your friends over your house, and you have a murder sanctuary in the centerpiece of your home.

• 1:31:46Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:31:46Joe Rogan?

  The atrium of your home is just like you watch animals just get slaughtered. They have no chance of escape, unlike the wild.

• 1:31:52Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:31:53Joe Rogan?

  In the wild, a rabbit can get away.

• 1:31:54Speaker 01

  Dude, we used to do that in our fraternity. My buddy Mason had a, a big python. And they'd buy rats and they'd put money on it and they'd put them in the corners and put the python in the center. And they have the benches from our cafeteria lined up. It'd be in a square. And we'd bet on which one he'd eat first. And it was crazy. Rats would go right up to the snake's face and touch the snake's face. Snake's face wouldn't even fucking touch it. And then all of a sudden, just you'd see him coil up.

• 1:32:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they just make their move.

• 1:32:21Speaker 01

  I had a savanna monitor. I had a, I had a, uh, iguana. Savannah monitor ate mice. And then the monitor, the... Uh, iguana is just nothing, it's just.

• 1:32:34Joe Rogan?

  That's, that, those, those rats that they fed that snake, or those mice they fed that snake, those things are just rat, bred in captivity. They have no fear. They don't know, they don't know what's gonna hurt them and what's not gonna hurt them. Nothing's, nothing's ever hurt them. Everything's just fed them.

• 1:32:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:32:50Joe Rogan?

  And then all of a sudden serpent.

• 1:32:52Speaker 01

  My dog caught a squirrel. My dog, I have two bull mastiffs. Mac, the big one, has been, I mean, his, he's wanted to catch a squirrel the same way I've wanted to have anal sex with my wife. Like, he wants it every fucking day. And then he caught a squirrel, and I think it would be the same as if I had anal sex with my wife. It was way messier than he thought. He thought it was gonna be a fun game, and he broke it in half, and was throwing it, and then it wasn't moving, and he'd move it, and I was like, "Oh buddy, you should've never got what you wanted." He was like, "This isn't fun," and he, I looked at him, he's just like, "Ah, what the fuck? I guess I'll eat grass now."

• 1:33:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, clean his mouth out.

• 1:33:30Speaker 01

  My, my two bull mastiffs caught the, uh, what's the, uh, opossum?

• 1:33:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:33:38Speaker 01

  Who was killing our chickens.

• 1:33:39Joe Rogan?

  Opossums kill chickens?

• 1:33:40Speaker 01

  Opossums killed our chickens. Three chickens, like, I'm almost saying, like, back to back to back.

• 1:33:45Joe Rogan?

  Oh, of course they do. They look like predators. I mean, they have a predator mouth.

• 1:33:49Speaker 01

  And my two bull mastiffs caught a possum, and they tortured this thing. I'm talking Al Qaeda beheading video. In our, while we were out to dinner. And we got home, and furniture was moved around, and this fucking possum was soaking wet. I mean, they have, must have thrown this thing around the room, and it was just in the corner playing dead.

• 1:34:10Joe Rogan?

  It was still alive?

• 1:34:11Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, and the dogs were just fucking ragdolling it.

• 1:34:14Joe Rogan?

  How is it still alive?

• 1:34:15Speaker 01

  I, I don't know, we had to, well, we had to catch it in a bucket.

• 1:34:18Joe Rogan?

  Your mastiff is fucking huge.

• 1:34:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, they were just toying with it, I think. They were just fucking throwing them around. They had them cornered in the back, we had to get a bucket, and you can't kill opossums in this county of LA. It's illegal to kill a possum.

• 1:34:31Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious.

• 1:34:32Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:34:32Joe Rogan?

  That's so funny. You know you can kill coyotes.

• 1:34:34Speaker 01

  No, in LA?

• 1:34:35Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:34:36Speaker 01

  Uh.

• 1:34:38Speaker 01

  Are you being serious?

• 1:34:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:39Speaker 01

  Because we have a den of coyotes that come back through our backyard at times.

• 1:34:43Joe Rogan?

  Coyotes are like rats.

• 1:34:45Speaker 01

  Dude.

• 1:34:45Joe Rogan?

  That's how they look. I don't think they're like rats. Let me just be real clear. I think they're cool. But I wanted to kill one. I wanted to kill him when they killed all my chickens.

• 1:34:52Speaker 01

  Dude.

• 1:34:52Joe Rogan?

  They killed all my fucking chickens.

• 1:34:54Speaker 01

  I have a Hoyt bow with a sixty-nine pound tension that would light a fucking coyote. I've been one to hunt something.

• 1:35:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Yeah, don't shoot your neighbors, dude. Uh, California laws allows for the killing of fur-bearing mammal that is injuring property at any time and in any manner. Any manner. However, animal cruelty laws prohibit maliciously and intentionally maiming, mutilating, torturing, wounding, or killing an animal.

• 1:35:20Speaker 01

  There I go.

• 1:35:21Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute. Prohibit intentionally killing an animal. So how can you have a law that allows for killing a fur-bearing mammal that is injuring property at any time and any manner, but also have a law that prohibits intentionally killing an animal?

• 1:35:37Speaker 03

  It's gotta be doing injuring.

• 1:35:39Joe Rogan?

  It says maliciously, so you'd be angry?

• 1:35:41Speaker 01

  Wait, hold on. Am I saying the word possum wrong?

• 1:35:44Joe Rogan?

  Opossums. No, I say it. Opossum, I think is the right way to say it.

• 1:35:48Speaker 01

  It's like, did you know it's, it's wheelbarrow?

• 1:35:51Joe Rogan?

  It's not barrel?

• 1:35:52Speaker 01

  Uh-uh. It's wheelbarrow.

• 1:35:53Joe Rogan?

  Interesting.

• 1:35:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:35:55Joe Rogan?

  Uh, makes it illegal to intentionally and maliciously kill an animal. But intentionally and maliciously are different things. Like if you're killing an animal to protect your dog. The key, oh, here it is. The key difference lies in the intent and manner of killing. Killing an opossum that is causing damage to property is one thing, but torturing or inflicting unnecessary suffering is a different manner. Okay. That makes sense.

• 1:36:18Speaker 01

  So I think my dogs broke the law.

• 1:36:20Joe Rogan?

  Here is a guy was convicted and sentenced for torturing an opossum to death, including beating, burning, and hanging it from a noose.

• 1:36:27Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:36:28Speaker 03

  That's a little bit much.

• 1:36:28Speaker 01

  That's a lot?

• 1:36:29Joe Rogan?

  Another case.

• 1:36:30Speaker 01

  It just sounds like a hate crime.

• 1:36:31Joe Rogan?

  Father and son were arrested for allegedly killing an opossum, but the arrests were later deemed unlawful and the city settled a lawsuit with the family for four hundred thousand dollars. Okay.

• 1:36:43Joe Rogan?

  Consider contacting a professional pest control operator or wildlife removal service.

• 1:36:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, I'm not too worried about possums.

• 1:36:53Speaker 01

  In our old house, we had rats.

• 1:36:54Joe Rogan?

  Coyotes are to be worried about.

• 1:36:55Speaker 01

  I'd fucking light up a coyote.

• 1:36:57Joe Rogan?

  They're to be worried about if you have a small dog.

• 1:36:59Speaker 01

  I need them to be exactly 25 yards away from me, though.

• 1:37:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:03Speaker 01

  Because I don't, yeah, that's all I'm like, I'm only scoped out from my porch to the fire pit.

• 1:37:08Joe Rogan?

  Don't you have adjustable sight?

• 1:37:10Speaker 01

  No, I have four sights. I didn't really learn that much about bow hunting with Cam. I just shot a couple of times. But I know that like one sight is for that distance, one sight is for that distance.

• 1:37:18Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:37:18Speaker 01

  And I don't even need the second sight in my backyard.

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• 1:39:00Speaker 01

  My backyard's not that big.

• 1:39:01Joe Rogan?

  Right, right. Um, you should go somewhere where you could practice.

• 1:39:05Speaker 01

  They have a good one. They have a good one in, uh, I think in, it's over in a park. They have a whole archery range.

• 1:39:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, nice.

• 1:39:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you should go there.

• 1:39:14Speaker 01

  I get weird with that shit. I have, you know, I have weird issues about like, uh, joining in or doing something new, like getting into a spin class and I've never met anyone.

• 1:39:22Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:39:22Speaker 01

  I just kinda like doing it in my backyard.

• 1:39:24Joe Rogan?

  Doing it in the backyard is fun, but just for your own, um, ability to get better at it, you really should stretch out your distance.

• 1:39:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:31Joe Rogan?

  Cause what happens is there's little tiny errors in your form that don't show up at 20 yards. That'll show up at 60 yards. And you gotta find out what those are. Like, I don't, I always shoot at 85 yards.

• 1:39:45Speaker 01

  You shoot at 85 yards?

• 1:39:46Joe Rogan?

  Eighty-five yards.

• 1:39:47Speaker 01

  At your, at your house?

• 1:39:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Yeah. I, I set 85 yards is a, a distance I would never shoot an animal at. And if I could be super accurate at 85 yards, when an animal's at 50 yards, it feels to me like a, a chip shot. Like I can just nail it. Cause I'm always shooting long distances. So at a long distance, any little deviation or twerk, like torque of your hand.

• 1:40:10Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:40:11Joe Rogan?

  It can make a big difference in how the, the arrow goes off. And at 70 yards, it might be four or five, six inches to the left, to the right, up, down. It's spread out and you wanna tighten it up like this. You wanna get that group like a softball. That's what I want. I want a softball at 85 yards. That's when I know I can go hunting.

• 1:40:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:40:30Joe Rogan?

  When I can get a softball at 85 yards, I'm dialed. I'm dialed in.

• 1:40:34Speaker 01

  I've been shooting, I've been shooting from a, a higher platform too. Is that bad?

• 1:40:38Joe Rogan?

  That's very good. That's very good. Especially if you ever have to go, uh, hunting in a tree stand. Tree stand hunting is very difficult. So, uh, I've only done it once. My good friend, John Dudley, took me to his, uh, farm in Iowa. Uh, John actually taught me a, a lot about archery too. Like, most of what I know about like form and technique, I learned from John. And, uh, anyway, John has this amazing setup in Iowa and you go up in these tree stands and you, you, you have to like buckle yourself in with like a safety wire or a safety rope.

• 1:41:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:41:08Joe Rogan?

  And, you know, you're sitting there like. All day, you sit all day, all day, it's freezing. It's November, it's in Iowa, it's fucking three degrees. You're sitting there freezing your fucking dick off. And sometimes you have these um, giant suits that you put over your whole body and zip up like you're a giant burrito of fur, almost like a sleeping bag.

• 1:41:29Speaker 01

  And you're, and you're sober and you're not doing anything but just waiting.

• 1:41:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you can't be drunk.

• 1:41:32Speaker 01

  Can't be listening to like a podcast.

• 1:41:35Joe Rogan?

  You really shouldn't. You wanna hear, you wanna hear branches snapping. You wanna hear the little cracks, the little sounds, little ch ch ch ch, that's what you're listening for. Guys even wear these things called walker game ears. And walker game ears, it's almost like a hearing aid and you put them in and you crank it up and you can hear things like way amplified. Way amplified, that you, like, there's a certain uh, headphones you wear if you go to a, like a gun range. That's, they tune out any sound that's over a certain pitch, like a certain volume. But amplify other sounds, so you can hear people talking like from way away.

• 1:42:17Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:42:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, way stronger like ability to hear. But then the gun, it cuts out the sound when it gets to a dangerous, so every gun's like tack tack tack, tack tack tack. But the sound of other people is still present, so you could talk at a gun range. You don't have to have like full ear, like the foam ones stuffed in there where you have to pull, like a Terran tactical, they always use those.

• 1:42:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42:38Joe Rogan?

  You pull, you have to pull them out to talk to people. These you can, so these guys wear things like that, so they can hear everything in the forest.

• 1:42:45Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:42:45Joe Rogan?

  They can hear every little sound because when a deer's coming in, they come in slowly. They like, they're all wary and shit, they're stepping on the grass, they're moving around and you might just hear something, just a rustle. And you're like, where's it? And you see him, oh shit, there he is, there he is. And then you gotta get your bow, so you're waiting all day for one moment and you're shooting down.

• 1:43:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:43:06Joe Rogan?

  Cause like the animals like, they're down like below you. Or like you're at a like sharp angle, so you have to have like a range compensating, uh, an angle compensating range fighter. Because the shot might be forty yards, but it actually might be twenty yards because you're shooting straight down. So you're shooting straight down, you're, you're, the way your arrow is gonna drop, it's not gonna be as affected by gravity. So like if you're shooting forty yards on a flat plane, the arrow's gonna arc and it's gonna drop. So over the course of the forty yards, if your arrow's going two hundred ninety feet per second, which is a good speed, it's gonna slowly drop until it gets to forty yards. So you have, that's why your range, like you set up the pin.

• 1:43:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:43:47Joe Rogan?

  You move it to where the arrow's gonna be when it finally gets there at forty yards.

• 1:43:51Speaker 01

  Wait, can you, can you move your own pin?

• 1:43:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:43:54Speaker 01

  Oh, I need camera.

• 1:43:55Joe Rogan?

  Well, I have a, I have a wheel that, it's set up that like, I have what's called a Spot Hog, a Fast Eddie, and it's got two pins on it. And one pin will be at twenty yards, the other pin will be at thirty-five yards. And then I move it down and then the one pin is at fifty yards and the other pin is at like seventy-five.

• 1:44:14Speaker 01

  Oh, that's not mine.

• 1:44:15Joe Rogan?

  Or sixty-five.

• 1:44:16Speaker 01

  Mine's just got four, four different sites.

• 1:44:18Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:44:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:44:19Joe Rogan?

  So mine is an adjustable one that's on a wheel, and that's what you need because like, well, you, with the range, like say if a deer's coming in and you're in a tree stand, you, you look and you're like, that's pretty far away, but it's pretty far like this, straight down. So pretty far straight down, your arrow's not gonna drop as much as if you were shooting straight.

• 1:44:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:44:36Joe Rogan?

  If you're shooting straight, it's gonna go shh, boom, and then, so you have to have a rangefinder that figures that out for you.

• 1:44:41Speaker 01

  Oh, shit.

• 1:44:42Joe Rogan?

  And it says, even though that's forty yards away, the angle compensation is actually twenty-six yards. So you have to dial your shit to twenty-six yards and then, you'll be perfect.

• 1:44:52Speaker 01

  Have you ever, have you ever gone fishing with a bow?

• 1:44:55Joe Rogan?

  No, I have not, but it looks amazing.

• 1:44:56Speaker 01

  It is so fucking difficult.

• 1:44:58Joe Rogan?

  It looks so, it looks fun too, though.

• 1:45:00Speaker 01

  It's fun, but it's, it's difficult because of the water reflection, you've gotta shoot like.

• 1:45:05Joe Rogan?

  Six inches below it, right?

• 1:45:06Speaker 01

  Ah, yeah, well, I don't know, cause I never got one, so yeah. I was, and I was a little drunk, I was like, I was like, this'll be easy.

• 1:45:13Joe Rogan?

  I think you have to shoot six, it's refrac, reflect, refraction, right?

• 1:45:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:45:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think you have to shoot below what you see.

• 1:45:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:45:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:21Speaker 01

  The, I, I.

• 1:45:22Joe Rogan?

  That's a mindfuck.

• 1:45:23Speaker 01

  It, I couldn't, I, when we sat out there, it was salmon all over.

• 1:45:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 1:45:27Speaker 01

  You could see them, it was, yeah, and I fucking must've taken a hundred shots.

• 1:45:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, man, that must've been so fun.

• 1:45:33Speaker 01

  It was fun, but you know.

• 1:45:35Joe Rogan?

  Was that, is that like a recurve bow? Or is that a bow with a release? Do you have a release?

• 1:45:39Speaker 01

  I don't remember. I think it was, I think it was a, I think it was a compound bow.

• 1:45:43Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:45:44Speaker 01

  I think so.

• 1:45:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's better. A compound bow, you could be more accurate. So with a compound bow, like I don't know how to aim with a recurve bow at all. I've, I've only shot one like three or four times ever. And I went on this trip to Lanai with my family. And one of the things that they had was like this little archery lesson. You could take archery classes and shoot at the little targets. And they had recurve bows. I'd never shot a bow without a sight before. So I was like trying to like line it up.

• 1:46:10Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:46:10Joe Rogan?

  How do you line up where the, how do you know where the arrow's gonna go?

• 1:46:12Speaker 01

  That's, it's the only bows I've ever shot.

• 1:46:15Joe Rogan?

  It was like a recurve?

• 1:46:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, recurve. I shot a recurve bow. We did like archery lessons in Italy. And so we were at different, you know how like those hills are like almost like steps?

• 1:46:25Joe Rogan?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:46:25Speaker 01

  And so they'd have, but it was weird because the recurve bow was such that you had to hold it kind of like an angle.

• 1:46:30Joe Rogan?

  At an angle, yeah.

• 1:46:31Speaker 01

  So that.

• 1:46:32Joe Rogan?

  The arrow stays on the shelf.

• 1:46:33Speaker 01

  During the pandemic, I got the girls both recurve bows and we would shoot in the backyard all the time.

• 1:46:38Joe Rogan?

  It's fun. It's definitely fun, but it's, it's kind of like throwing a rock or, or like throwing a baseball. Like you've, you've got to like have a feel for where that baseball's gonna go at 30 yards, at 40 yards, at 50, you know? Like if you had to throw a baseball and hit a tree, you would know, okay, I gotta throw it a little harder. You get a feel. So that's different than regular archery, like, or excuse me, compound archery. Cause compound archery, you're basically relying on the sight and the technique. Like you, you dial it in, you get that pin, it's at 42 yards. And then you're just going through your shot process. You're just staying steady and making sure you go through your shot process perfect. So that when the shot breaks, the arrow goes exactly where you want to.

• 1:47:20Joe Rogan?

  But with a recurve, like you have to practice all the time because you have to have that feel. You have to have a feel and know where that arrow's gonna go. Like you're, you're looking down the shaft of your arrow, but your accuracy is.

• 1:47:36Joe Rogan?

  Greatly diminished compared to like a compound bow.

• 1:47:39Speaker 01

  I haven't shot my recurve, I only shoot my compound bow now, but I haven't shot my recurve bow with the little wristlet thing Cam gave me. I like to do that, because I use always just my fingers.

• 1:47:50Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's an interesting thing. So use a release on a recurve. I'm sure people do that. You'd have to put a D-loop on it though. Or you put, or no, I guess not. You could hold it from the top or the bottom. That would be better. Yeah, that would definitely be better. So you definitely get a more consistent release, but people want to be primitive, you know, like the real psychos. What happens is guys, the highest level of bow hunting is guys go after like elk and deer with a recurve bow. My friend Aaron Schneider did that for a couple of years. He only shot, because he's like an elite hunter, like an elite bow hunter.

• 1:48:21Speaker 01

  But what's the ultimate poundage of a recurve bow? What's the highest it can go?

• 1:48:24Joe Rogan?

  It's, you're not getting it nearly the amount of kinetic energy.

• 1:48:27Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:48:28Joe Rogan?

  So the kinetic energy you'd get from a compound bow, like Aaron's a big guy, he's pretty jacked. And so like his bow is like an 82, 85 pound bow probably. And he's a big guy, so he's probably got a 30 inch draw, somewhere around there. So he's getting insane amounts of kinetic energy in these arrows.

• 1:48:48Speaker 01

  That was, that's.

• 1:48:48Joe Rogan?

  Just blowing through everything.

• 1:48:50Speaker 01

  That's the craziest part of getting fitted for a bow. Because I was always like, I was always come here, I was like, Joe, let me shoot your bow. And you're like, it's not that easy, because it's set up for a person.

• 1:48:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's set up for your wingspan. Like you're taller than me, so you're, what is your, do you know where your draw length is?

• 1:49:04Speaker 01

  Uh, no. Cam did all of it and I was just listening.

• 1:49:07Joe Rogan?

  Your draw length's probably 29 and a half, maybe 30 inches. Mine's 28. So 20, I used to have 28 and a half and then I dropped down to 28. And I adjusted a few things and I feel like the more tension at the end, like the further back you are. Like I know guys who want extra energy and so they're what's called overdrawn. So they maybe should have a 27 inch draw, but they have a 29 inch draw and they have their release way back here. So they're shooting things totally different. You would never tell anybody to do that.

• 1:49:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:49:39Joe Rogan?

  But some guys get really good doing that and then they just stick with it. Like it's all about repeatability, but Cam. Taught me like Cam is a he's smaller than his draws a little bit smaller than mine. His is 27 and he had a longer draw. He started out with a longer draw as well. But then brought when he like for him is all the ultimate thing is accuracy. And he's like when you're your bow is more tense, more taut and there's more tension on it. If it's a shorter draw length, you're more accurate. You want to get it perfect.

• 1:50:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:50:09Joe Rogan?

  You want to exactly what your frame is and for me, it seems like 28 inches is the right, the right number.

• 1:50:15Speaker 01

  I had, I had one of my most manly moments of my entire life in that fucking bow and that bow store.

• 1:50:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a very manly place.

• 1:50:21Speaker 01

  Dude, there were Cam's like, uh, they had me set for like a 40 pound, you know, bow. And I go, okay. And he was like, I go, what do you guys shoot like you and Rogan? He was like 80 pounds, I think it was like what he said.

• 1:50:33Joe Rogan?

  90.

• 1:50:34Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. So it's 90. So Cam goes, Cam goes, I go, is that one tough to draw, pull back? And he was like, yeah. And I was like, I try. And he was like, okay. So he pulls it and brings it over. You know, all the bow guys are there.

• 1:50:46Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 1:50:47Speaker 01

  So I hang and I pull it back and Cam goes, hold on, hold on, hang on. Takes the bow off and he puts it and he measures it. And he's like, there's no way he did that. And he measured the test. He goes, god damn it. He goes, all right, let's move on to 69.

• 1:50:59Joe Rogan?

  You're a strong dude, man. You were talking about how you bench press. What did you, what are you bench pressing now?

• 1:51:04Speaker 01

  315. 325.

• 1:51:05Joe Rogan?

  325 for how many?

• 1:51:06Speaker 01

  Just one.

• 1:51:07Joe Rogan?

  That's impressive. That's a lot of weight. It's dangerous for your shoulders, though. That's why I don't like it.

• 1:51:11Speaker 01

  It's not, it's not sustainable and there's no reason to do it because as I did it, I gained weight. Like I gained weight. I gained 10 pounds. Yeah, like this is going to sound so silly and you know me so well that you're going to laugh when I say this, but like my jackets weren't fitting.

• 1:51:24Joe Rogan?

  No, I'm sure. It got thick for a while.

• 1:51:26Speaker 01

  My shoulders and my chest and my, my biceps, my triceps, everything in the jacket just wouldn't fit.

• 1:51:33Joe Rogan?

  A year ago, when you were at the club, I was calling you Jack Burt. Remember? I was like, did you want to say, I go, dude, you look different now. It's not as funny when you take your shirt off because I'm like, he's fucking jacked. You look like a football player. You look like a big, like a Tank Abbott. That's what you look like.

• 1:51:47Speaker 01

  Tank Abbott was a bad motherfucker.

• 1:51:49Joe Rogan?

  He was a bad motherfucker.

• 1:51:50Speaker 01

  I was, I was pretty skinny in the special, not skinny, but like I was in good shape in the special. Tanned, really tanned, special outfit.

• 1:51:58Joe Rogan?

  Bro, Tank Abbott, he put like UFC on the map.

• 1:52:02Speaker 01

  Dude, that early generation of guys were so charismatic.

• 1:52:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:52:08Speaker 01

  I mean, when you look like Frank, uh, what's his name?

• 1:52:10Joe Rogan?

  Shamrock?

• 1:52:10Speaker 01

  Frank Shamrock.

• 1:52:11Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:52:12Speaker 01

  Joyce Gracie, Tank Abbott.

• 1:52:14Joe Rogan?

  Ken Shamrock?

• 1:52:14Speaker 01

  Ken Shamrock, dude, that was like, that was like the.

• 1:52:17Joe Rogan?

  Don Frye, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.

• 1:52:21Speaker 01

  You know, we were, I was, where were we just at the other day? I went to UFC with my wife and she was, and I was saying to her, she was like, so.

• 1:52:29Joe Rogan?

  So that was your first, her first one live?

• 1:52:31Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:52:32Joe Rogan?

  Have you seen one, you saw one live at the Apex?

• 1:52:34Speaker 01

  I saw, I saw one live at, uh, Madison Square Garden.

• 1:52:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's right, that's right, that was a good one, too.

• 1:52:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, but we sat, we, I bought the tickets, so we sat up in the nosebleeds.

• 1:52:42Joe Rogan?

  That made me angry, don't ever buy tickets.

• 1:52:44Speaker 01

  I know, but I'm never gonna ask you for something.

• 1:52:45Joe Rogan?

  We know.

• 1:52:46Speaker 01

  I get, I get angry when people ask you for shit, cuz you're so generous with everyone.

• 1:52:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that doesn't.

• 1:52:51Speaker 01

  That I, I feel bad. You called and you said, do you want tickets? And I was like, you, first of all, you're like, are you going to UFC? And I was like, I'm not gonna say, I don't wanna sound like.

• 1:53:00Joe Rogan?

  You told me you were going to slap fight, I'm like, okay, you're here.

• 1:53:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:53:03Joe Rogan?

  Like, I, I didn't know if you were set up yet.

• 1:53:05Speaker 01

  No, and, and I wasn't gonna ask Dana for tickets.

• 1:53:08Joe Rogan?

  Come on.

• 1:53:08Speaker 01

  And then you're like, oh, let me get you tickets, and then you go, UFC's got better tickets. Dude, that was a fucking fever dream that night. It was me and Theo, I don't think I've laughed harder with an individual in my fucking life.

• 1:53:20Joe Rogan?

  No, there's no one better than Theo for, can we get that wider? For a hang, just talking shit, being silly.

• 1:53:26Speaker 01

  It was me, him, and my wife the whole time. They were like, cuz we went to slap fight together, then we went to UFC together, sat next to Taylor, sat next to Max Crosby, sat next to Mel Gibson, Taylor Sheridan, look at that, Mario Lopez.

• 1:53:39Joe Rogan?

  What a fucking crew.

• 1:53:40Speaker 01

  The guys are like, like, uh, Max and, and Taylor.

• 1:53:43Joe Rogan?

  What a fucking crew.

• 1:53:45Speaker 01

  Taylor Luan's the one who did me the bench press bet with. Him and Busta with the boys, he was like, he saw me try to get 300, he was like, you can't get 300.

• 1:53:52Joe Rogan?

  Bro, we went gambling with him, and Jamie, and Shane, and all, and Dana White in Vegas, and I watched him be down. Dana was betting for him, Dana was telling him what to bet, and they have this system, okay, whatever. But he's up, he's up like a considerable amount of money over the course of all the times they've been gambling. But they gamble heavy.

• 1:54:14Speaker 01

  Very.

• 1:54:15Joe Rogan?

  And Jamie and I were getting severe anxiety, they were down $125,000 in the first five minutes. Do you remember that? How scary was that?

• 1:54:25Speaker 03

  I tried to, I was like, I'll, I'll, let me jump in with you guys. He's like, don't, don't, don't.

• 1:54:29Speaker 01

  Dude, it's, I was gonna, I was, I was like, let me get a marker, I'll hop out. Now, I've never gotten a marker. I got a marker one time with Tommy for-

• 1:54:36Joe Rogan?

  What do you have to do? Do you have to give me your credit card?

• 1:54:38Speaker 01

  Oh, it's, they've gotta do a fucking bank transfer. It takes a long time to get a marker.

• 1:54:42Joe Rogan?

  A bank transfer?

• 1:54:42Speaker 01

  Unless you've done it before. Yeah, dude, it took me an hour and a half to get a fucking marker.

• 1:54:47Joe Rogan?

  How do you get a bank transfer in the middle of the night? You have to call your bank?

• 1:54:50Speaker 01

  I don't think you can get a marker unless you've already had that established earlier.

• 1:54:53Joe Rogan?

  And you had established?

• 1:54:54Speaker 01

  No, I hadn't. Me and Tommy were there and Tommy's like, get a marker. So I was like, okay. So I asked for a marker and it took forever. They'd go through my financial guy and then they came in-

• 1:55:02Joe Rogan?

  Financial guys around in Vegas?

• 1:55:04Speaker 01

  They called him. They called-

• 1:55:05Joe Rogan?

  At home?

• 1:55:06Speaker 01

  At work. It was like, Tommy and I were-

• 1:55:07Joe Rogan?

  What time was it?

• 1:55:08Speaker 01

  Tommy and I were doing it when we did the Super Bowl like two years ago.

• 1:55:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, so it was daytime?

• 1:55:11Speaker 01

  It was daytime.

• 1:55:12Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:55:13Speaker 01

  And so Tommy had already gotten his marker and I, it took me forever to get a marker. I got a $50,000 marker. And dude, I got so nervous, I bet a thousand dollars, lost 300 and I was like, I'm done. I was like, pussy.

• 1:55:24Joe Rogan?

  Remember being poor too well. I do-

• 1:55:27Speaker 01

  It's not, it's not, gambling's not fun unless it sparkles, unless there's like a, unless, unless there's terror.

• 1:55:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:34Speaker 01

  It's not fun when you're like, you know-

• 1:55:36Joe Rogan?

  20 bucks, 50 bucks, exactly.

• 1:55:39Speaker 01

  I gotta bet 50,000, all of that money on something to feel it. But I lo-, I love the feeling, but the feeling's not worth it to lose the money.

• 1:55:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:46Speaker 01

  The losing the money, holy shit.

• 1:55:49Joe Rogan?

  Dana White, when we got there, what was he down? 600,000 dollars? Yeah, he was down 600,000 dollars and he stayed all night and he was there till like 5 o'clock in the morning and he got it back and was up 600,000 dollars when he left.

• 1:56:03Speaker 01

  He gambles. And he plays baccarat.

• 1:56:06Joe Rogan?

  Hard. He is, uh, blackjack.

• 1:56:08Speaker 01

  Baccarat too. That's his new game.

• 1:56:10Joe Rogan?

  Ooh.

• 1:56:10Speaker 01

  We did, Tommy and I did a podcast with him and, uh-

• 1:56:13Speaker 03

  Bet more.

• 1:56:14Speaker 01

  What's that?

• 1:56:14Speaker 03

  500,000 dollar max there.

• 1:56:17Joe Rogan?

  What is, I don't even know what that is. What is baccarat? I know the name.

• 1:56:20Speaker 01

  It's a, it's, it's, I think it's like a Chinese blackjack.

• 1:56:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh. If I had to like, if I was on a quib, quiz show, someone explains baccarat, I'd be like, fuck! I should fucking know that.

• 1:56:34Speaker 01

  Ricky Tiki Tobi? I don't know.

• 1:56:35Joe Rogan?

  I know what craps is. I know how that works. I don't know how it works. No, I do not know like the rules, like what is the come line and all that shit. I don't know what the fuck. I know what it is.

• 1:56:45Speaker 01

  Craps is just a simple game.

• 1:56:47Joe Rogan?

  They throw the dice, but all the different, the come and the fucking lines and I don't know what's going on.

• 1:56:53Speaker 01

  Oh, it's, craps is simple. Really, honestly. Craps is a very.

• 1:56:56Joe Rogan?

  It's not simple.

• 1:56:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it's, it's basically roll the dice. Whatever that number is, you just gotta roll it again. And then everyone gets a bet on whether you're not gonna roll it, whether you are gonna roll it. And then they can bet on the other numbers that you might roll before you roll your second number. And then there's a roll, two rolls that get you out. And then if you roll those at the beginning, you get money. It's a simple game technically. Not as simple as blackjack, but back or at.

• 1:57:17Joe Rogan?

  One that you like, you get your wife to kiss the dice, then you throw it.

• 1:57:20Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:57:21Joe Rogan?

  Get her to throw it for you and she gets on a hot streak.

• 1:57:23Speaker 01

  Dude, we got on a hot streak on a boat one time. Me and my buddy Cowhead and our buddy Pete, and we were fucking, we were rolling hot and fucking people are making a lot of money. And we're talking, I'm on my 20th roll and I'm hitting them and hitting them and hitting them. And I grabbed them one time, I go to roll and the dealer guy hits my hands with the fucking stick. And I go, what? And he goes, miss roll. And I go, whoa. And then I rolled a cr- scrapped out a seven. And I was like, fuck that. I go, fuck that. And then the guy goes, alright, I'm out. And he just clocked out and walked away. And I, fuck, me and my buddy Pete made him apologize to us.

• 1:57:56Joe Rogan?

  Why did he say it was a bad roll?

• 1:57:57Speaker 01

  He just, they try to fuck up your flow. They don't wanna, they don't want your flow to fucking.

• 1:58:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they don't want you to stay hot.

• 1:58:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're hot, now let's fuck it up.

• 1:58:05Joe Rogan?

  Hmm, what is this?

• 1:58:07Speaker 03

  World record shit for four and a half hours straight.

• 1:58:10Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:58:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's, I mean, the amount of money and the energy at that table would have been.

• 1:58:15Speaker 01

  Insane.

• 1:58:16Speaker 03

  Been bonkers.

• 1:58:17Speaker 01

  The fun is the shit you say as you roll the dice.

• 1:58:20Joe Rogan?

  Four hours and 18 minutes later, Demaro had rolled a world record for craps rolls. She rolled 154 times. The odds of accomplishing this are one in 1.56 trillion.

• 1:58:30Speaker 01

  Do you know how much money she paid, made the people at that table?

• 1:58:33Joe Rogan?

  What does that mean? So she rolled the same number every time?

• 1:58:36Speaker 01

  No, it means that she didn't roll a seven. After her come out roll for that many rolls. She may have rolled a seven, but if you roll a seven on your come out roll, then you get paid.

• 1:58:48Joe Rogan?

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• 2:00:43Joe Rogan?

  See, this is why it's confusing. They try to pretend it's not confusing.

• 2:00:45Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:00:46Speaker 03

  It's not confusing. Yeah.

• 2:00:47Speaker 01

  You have to do it once or twice.

• 2:00:48Speaker 03

  You have to lose a little bit of money and then you're kinda sort of understanding.

• 2:00:51Speaker 01

  Baccarat's the rough one.

• 2:00:52Joe Rogan?

  I'm so not interested.

• 2:00:54Speaker 01

  Dana said, Dana said, he goes, take out, I think he said $275,000 marker to me and Tommy. He's like, I mean, I was gonna be in Vegas. I go, he goes, Bert, take out a $275,000 marker. Come play baccarat with me. I'll double your money. And I was like, I was like, if you, just.

• 2:01:11Joe Rogan?

  Nay. Nay, sir.

• 2:01:13Speaker 01

  Tom's like, do it. And Leanne wouldn't let me do it. She's like, no fucking way. She's gonna, you're gonna lose it? And he's gonna be like, ah, I didn't see that coming.

• 2:01:19Joe Rogan?

  Or you're gonna like, get addicted to doing that and you're gonna wanna do it all the time. That's what she sees coming. She sees it coming like she sees everything else. She's like, nooo, big guy. Give me those pills.

• 2:01:29Speaker 01

  I got the ick on all of it.

• 2:01:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, she's right. She's right. I mean, look, Dana's got a lot of money. He makes a lot of money. He can do that. He likes doing that. It works somehow or another. It wouldn't work for me.

• 2:01:41Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:01:42Joe Rogan?

  It's not my thing.

• 2:01:42Speaker 01

  It's not my thing.

• 2:01:43Joe Rogan?

  But for some people, like, he loves living in Vegas. He loves playing.

• 2:01:46Speaker 01

  He loves Vegas.

• 2:01:47Joe Rogan?

  Loves it. Loves it. He's got the town wired, you know? Why wouldn't he love it? You know, the sport's there all the time. We got the UFC PI there, so there's fights there almost, I mean, every month, there's a fight at the, the, the Apex, at least.

• 2:02:03Speaker 01

  What's, can I tell you the craziest experience of, of that whole thing, other than meeting Mel Gibson, which was a dream? He was the sweetest guy.

• 2:02:11Joe Rogan?

  He's a nice guy.

• 2:02:11Speaker 01

  He was a nice guy. Well, I told you, I met him on the plane and flying here.

• 2:02:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:15Speaker 01

  And then he walked by me, like, when he left the plane, he's like, maybe I'll see you this weekend. I was like, hopefully. And then when he walked into UFC, came over, grabbed my leg, he's like, what's up, big guy? And I was like, ah. And my, my, the guys next to me are like, you know Dana, you know, uh, Mel Gibson? And I was like, yeah. But the coolest.

• 2:02:30Joe Rogan?

  We go way back.

• 2:02:30Speaker 01

  Coolest part was, um.

• 2:02:34Speaker 01

  The fucking guy Ari Emanuel. That, watching the character from Entourage be himself, cuz I sat right behind him. And he was just, he's the guy.

• 2:02:44Joe Rogan?

  He's much more reasonable.

• 2:02:45Speaker 01

  Oh, but he's, but he's still a character.

• 2:02:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's definitely a character, yeah. Nice guy.

• 2:02:50Speaker 01

  He's a nice guy. Him and Peter Berg were, were right up, right in front of me and Leanne.

• 2:02:54Joe Rogan?

  I love that dude.

• 2:02:55Speaker 01

  Peter Berg's the shit.

• 2:02:56Joe Rogan?

  Have you been watching American Primeval?

• 2:02:58Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 2:02:59Joe Rogan?

  Fuck.

• 2:02:59Speaker 01

  Fuck me.

• 2:03:00Joe Rogan?

  Fuck.

• 2:03:02Speaker 01

  God, Peter Berg's a great, dude, and he was a great actor. Do you remember Aspen Extreme?

• 2:03:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. He, he's, he was great in the, in the show too. He was great in American Primeval. He's great. He's been in a bunch of movies, but I think like he really shines as a filmmaker, you know?

• 2:03:17Speaker 01

  Wait, what's the movie, what's the TV show Gary Oldman's in right now? Not Black Doves.

• 2:03:23Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 2:03:24Speaker 01

  It's an Apple, Joe, this is the best damn show out there.

• 2:03:27Joe Rogan?

  Apple's making some banging shows, man.

• 2:03:29Speaker 01

  Slow Horses, have you seen it?

• 2:03:30Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:03:31Speaker 01

  Joe, Slow Horses is Gary Oldman's best work yet, in my opinion.

• 2:03:37Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:03:38Speaker 01

  He is so fucking good, and it is such a great show.

• 2:03:42Joe Rogan?

  Damn, Slow Horses on Netflix.

• 2:03:44Speaker 01

  It's what's, what's great about these shows.

• 2:03:45Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no, on Apple.

• 2:03:46Speaker 01

  Like the English, or, or Slow Horses, or Black Doves, is there's six episodes, but it's a six-episode arc. So it's not just like episodic, like we remember, like, uh, like, old dramas being where the whole thing happened in the hour and then,

• 2:04:01Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:04:01Speaker 01

  and then you never have to watch that again. Brand new one, the whole thing happens in an hour. There, there are these episode arcs where it starts off telling a story, and you pay out by the last episode, much like Peaky Blinders.

• 2:04:12Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:04:12Speaker 01

  Peaky Blinders would, would, they were great standalone episodes, but that episode, it was so addictive. That's what, the streamers have changed the way we're taking in content, because you start, if you start Slow Horses tonight, you'll watch all six, and then you'll be like, honey, we're watching all of these tomorrow.

• 2:04:29Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:04:29Speaker 01

  It's so fucking good.

• 2:04:31Joe Rogan?

  Ooh, uh, Gary Oldman's awesome.

• 2:04:33Speaker 01

  Gary Oldman.

• 2:04:34Joe Rogan?

  He's the third best vampire movie, is his Dracula.

• 2:04:37Speaker 01

  Oh, his Dracula?

• 2:04:38Joe Rogan?

  His Dracula was very good. It was very good.

• 2:04:41Speaker 01

  But are you a Dracula guy?

• 2:04:42Joe Rogan?

  Love Dracula.

• 2:04:43Speaker 01

  Who do you like more, Dracula or the werewolf?

• 2:04:45Joe Rogan?

  Werewolves.

• 2:04:46Speaker 01

  Werewolves.

• 2:04:47Joe Rogan?

  They're the most fun. It's the most fun, like, just some poor dude.

• 2:04:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:04:53Joe Rogan?

  He's like, the moon changes, like, fuck. And just waking up covered in blood like what happened like the idea of it is just so crazy. I always just always loved werewolf movies.

• 2:05:03Speaker 01

  What happened to Benicio del Toro's werewolf movie?

• 2:05:06Joe Rogan?

  It was a good one. It was good. It just petered out. It was there was some real great moments in it that we played it a bunch of times. But the one when they're in the theater, the medical theater, and he's trying to convince this guy that the guy's insane. He's like, I'm here to show you that he will not turn into a wolf. He thinks he will. You know, and so they have him strapped up. It's like, I'm going to kill you all. This body starts fucking. It's an amazing transformation scene. But Rick Baker did that film, the same guy that did American Werewolf in London. Yeah, it's the, you know, the werewolf that we have in the lobby. That's the greatest werewolf movie of all time. No question because it's John Landis. It's actually funny. There's funny moments in it.

• 2:05:47Joe Rogan?

  It's really fucking good. It's a good movie that did a great job of only showing the wolf like a little bit. So you're really scared when you actually see it. You know, like get you numb to the thing being there. So this is the theater scene. He starts changing. So this is like they did a combination of CGI and makeup. So the thing about CGI is like right there, that's CGI. CGI, you kind of know it's CGI. There's the uncanny valley effect, right?

• 2:06:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:06:21Joe Rogan?

  And so when he fully transforms in the scenes where he's attacking people, he's an actor. He's Benicio del Toro, but with all these prosthetics on. And it looks much more realistic, like the way it moves, the way it behaves. Like when he goes after these people, it seems, well, go back up so you can see it rip the guy's heart out.

• 2:06:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he threw the dude through the window. Is back up a little bit before that is when he tears the guy apart.

• 2:07:03Joe Rogan?

  Look at this.

• 2:07:17Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 2:07:24Joe Rogan?

  See, so when it's a dude in a costume with all the fur on it, the way it moves is just... They can't quite fix that.

• 2:07:33Speaker 01

  In CGI?

• 2:07:34Joe Rogan?

  It's not quite there.

• 2:07:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:07:36Joe Rogan?

  It still gives you that thing where there's a suspension of disbelief. But when they use, you know, when they use makeup, like, like they did in American Werewolf in London. And like, like the transformation scene in American Werewolf in London, do you remember that one?

• 2:07:50Speaker 01

  Oh yeah.

• 2:07:51Joe Rogan?

  The guy's in the bedroom?

• 2:07:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:07:52Joe Rogan?

  Or in the living room and he just starts fucking, "Ahhhhh!" And his back pops up and he stretches out and starts getting covered in hair.

• 2:07:59Speaker 01

  Aren't they playing, like, CCR in that?

• 2:08:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I think it's Bad Moon.

• 2:08:02Speaker 01

  Werewolf in London.

• 2:08:04Joe Rogan?

  No, I think it's Bad Moon on the Rise. There's a bad moon on the rise.

• 2:08:09Speaker 01

  God damn.

• 2:08:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:11Speaker 01

  I mean, I could use a new werewolf. You know what they were doing?

• 2:08:13Joe Rogan?

  They're doing, the guy who did Nosferatu is gonna do a werewolf movie now.

• 2:08:17Speaker 01

  No shit. They were gonna do a series of all the horror movies. And it started with The Mummy with Tom Cruise. They had one set up for Johnny Depp.

• 2:08:25Joe Rogan?

  But The Mummy with Tom Cruise is not the mummy, the scary mummy from like when we were kids.

• 2:08:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, but they were all reimagined. Like, I took a meeting with that, whatever that studio was. And they were, because they always wanted a comedic actor in it. For the one that, in The Mummy, it was Jake, uh, Jake, guy's such a great actor and I'm fucking flaking on his name. He was in New Girl, Jake. Johnson. Jake Johnson. Jake Johnson's funny as shit. He is a great actor. And he was the comedic relief in The Mummy. And, uh, and they were gonna do that with each of them. And so they had one set up for, for, uh, for Johnny Depp. They had it set up for big stars. Everyone was getting their own.

• 2:09:06Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't it Brandon Fraser originally?

• 2:09:08Speaker 01

  He was in the, the original Mummy.

• 2:09:11Joe Rogan?

  Original, original.

• 2:09:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, and then it was The Rock.

• 2:09:14Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's right, that's right.

• 2:09:15Speaker 01

  And then it was Tom Cruise.

• 2:09:18Joe Rogan?

  I love Brendan Fraser's revival. Isn't it amazing?

• 2:09:21Speaker 01

  Dude.

• 2:09:22Joe Rogan?

  Isn't it great when a guy comes back? And not just comes back, but comes back and kills it in a movie and then like has this like heartfelt speech where he's like tearing up and crying and like everybody loves him again.

• 2:09:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:09:34Joe Rogan?

  That must have felt awful for that guy. He was this giant movie star. He was in all these giant films and then for whatever reason, he just kinda like faded away.

• 2:09:42Speaker 01

  He got me too.

• 2:09:43Joe Rogan?

  Is that what happened?

• 2:09:43Speaker 01

  He's but by a dude. The dude tried to fucking touch him.

• 2:09:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:09:47Speaker 01

  And he stood up to the guy and was like, hey man, you go fuck yourself. The guy's like, I'll ruin your career. If I'm apparently, obviously my memory is whatever the fuck it is. But yeah, that he came out and he said, you know, I was I was blackballed. Cause I got fucking called a dude out.

• 2:09:58Joe Rogan?

  Um, let's find out if that's true.

• 2:10:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, find out if that's true.

• 2:10:01Joe Rogan?

  We might have to edit that out.

• 2:10:03Speaker 01

  Allegedly.

• 2:10:04Joe Rogan?

  Allegedly. Allegedly is a great word.

• 2:10:07Speaker 01

  The uh, but it's it's crazy those uh, I saw something with Mickey Rourke.

• 2:10:13Speaker 03

  I mean, he said it.

• 2:10:14Joe Rogan?

  That's what he said?

• 2:10:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:10:15Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:10:15Speaker 01

  Mickey Rourke said, uh, he hadn't worked for thirteen years and Mickey Rourke was the man. Pope of Greenwich Village.

• 2:10:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Angel Heart.

• 2:10:23Speaker 01

  Angel Heart, shut the fuck up.

• 2:10:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, dude.

• 2:10:25Speaker 01

  Didn't he?

• 2:10:26Joe Rogan?

  Mickey Rourke was a beast.

• 2:10:27Speaker 01

  Didn't he do the uh, the one with the ice cube on the stomach, the blue dream or blue?

• 2:10:33Joe Rogan?

  Right, with Kim Basinger. What was that?

• 2:10:36Speaker 01

  And it was like fuck the ultimate sex scene. And it's like they they what was it called?

• 2:10:42Speaker 03

  Wild Orchid.

• 2:10:43Joe Rogan?

  Wild Orchid.

• 2:10:44Speaker 01

  Wild Orchid, I think.

• 2:10:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that was a crazy movie.

• 2:10:45Speaker 01

  But he said he, I saw an interview with him and he said he hadn't worked in thirteen years. He was down on his money. All he had is his motorcycles and his clothes. He dressed himself up one night and took himself out for a bowl of spaghetti. And it's all the money he had. Fucking Sylvester Stallone walked by and he was like, hey, man, where you been? He's like, just been out. And he was like, you wanna work in a movie? He was like, yeah. And he goes, that one movie paid six months of my rent and it was his comeback.

• 2:11:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:11:09Speaker 01

  Mickey Works always been a badass.

• 2:11:11Joe Rogan?

  He was awesome.

• 2:11:11Speaker 01

  I bought clothes because I saw what he was wearing on a Sunday. He had on the coolest fucking outfit. And it's so silly, but he had like Adidas track pants. This had to be like 2001 Adidas track pants with a white Adidas shoes and a, and a wife beater. And he was putting cases of Heineken in the back of a Cadillac DTS. And I was watching him from across the street. And I was like, I'm getting those pants. I'm getting these shoes. Puma shoes, Adidas pants and a fucking wife beater. And dude, I dressed like that hoping someone would be like, dude, that's a badass outfit. No one ever said it to me.

• 2:11:43Joe Rogan?

  You know what's a great, I would have said it.

• 2:11:45Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 2:11:46Joe Rogan?

  You know what's a great movie that people slept on that forgot about with him? Chinatown.

• 2:11:50Speaker 01

  Wait, is he in Chinatown?

• 2:11:52Joe Rogan?

  Now, what was it called? It wasn't, Chinatown was Jack Nicholson, but there was another, there was a Chinatown, god damn it. You're the Dragon. You're the Dragon.

• 2:12:02Speaker 01

  What's You're the Dragon?

• 2:12:03Joe Rogan?

  That's what it was. That's what it was.

• 2:12:04Speaker 01

  Which one's You're the Dragon?

• 2:12:05Joe Rogan?

  You're the Dragon is, he's a cop. He's like a dirty cop in this Chinese mob film. It's really good, man. It's really good. What year is this? Eighty-five. Eighty-five. So I was in fucking high school, man. Wow. This is the year I graduated high school. It's a good movie though, man. Real good movie. It might not hold up. Really hot Chinese lady falls in love with her. Oh, baby.

• 2:12:33Speaker 01

  It's crazy when you see your heroes get older, you know? Like Harrison Ford to see him now and be like, god damn.

• 2:12:39Joe Rogan?

  He's great in that 1923 show though. Have you been watching that?

• 2:12:42Speaker 01

  Oh, is this Taylor's show?

• 2:12:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:12:43Speaker 01

  No, I haven't seen it.

• 2:12:44Joe Rogan?

  He's great.

• 2:12:44Speaker 01

  Oh, this is, I just saw, yeah, we was talking about that at dinner.

• 2:12:46Joe Rogan?

  I just watched episode four last night. He's great in that.

• 2:12:48Speaker 01

  He's, he, he's the man. You know, they said, the rumor is they ca, they were gonna cast Tom Selleck as Han Solo. Did you hear this?

• 2:12:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and he was a carpenter.

• 2:12:57Speaker 01

  He was, and Mark Hamill told me this story.

• 2:12:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:12:59Speaker 01

  And he was like.

• 2:13:00Joe Rogan?

  Did he really?

• 2:13:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. He said they were having, they were having Harrison read with everyone. So, cause he was like, you know, great actor, but he was also a carpenter. And they're like, you just read sides with people as they audition. So we read with Carrie, read with Mark, read with everyone. They were gonna cast Tom Selleck. And at the last minute, they said, you know, I don't know, man. Something about Tom Selleck isn't dangerous. There's something dangerous about Harrison Ford. And there is.

• 2:13:22Joe Rogan?

  Really working.

• 2:13:23Speaker 01

  Dude, he was, yeah.

• 2:13:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:13:25Speaker 01

  And he's, I mean, I just watched all three Raiders of the Lost Ark the other night. And he is fucking funny. He's cool.

• 2:13:32Joe Rogan?

  Do you know that scene where the guy pulls out the sword, starts swinging around, he just shoots him?

• 2:13:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:13:36Joe Rogan?

  You know, he improvised that?

• 2:13:39Speaker 01

  That's fucking amazing.

• 2:13:40Joe Rogan?

  Amazing scene. He improvised it.

• 2:13:42Speaker 01

  I remember watching it in the movie theater and going, "Shoo."

• 2:13:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's perfect. That's what you hope always happens. Get the fuck out of here with that sword. Boom.

• 2:13:50Speaker 01

  God. And he was a hero with a tragic flaw, and that was snakes.

• 2:13:56Speaker 01

  That was his weakness. That was his Achilles heel.

• 2:13:58Joe Rogan?

  Also, he was a professor that was secretly dangerous. Secretly out there doing real archaeology. He had a whip. Here it is. This is the scene.

• 2:14:10Joe Rogan?

  They were supposed to have this whole choreographed thing with the sword and the whip.

• 2:14:22Joe Rogan?

  It's a perfect scene.

• 2:14:23Speaker 01

  How many franchises, is he the actor that's had the most franchises behind him?

• 2:14:28Joe Rogan?

  No, it's gotta be Tom Cruise, right?

• 2:14:30Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:14:32Joe Rogan?

  Tom Cruise, top, well, he wasn't in the new Topcom, was he?

• 2:14:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, he was.

• 2:14:36Joe Rogan?

  I didn't watch it.

• 2:14:37Speaker 01

  You didn't watch it?

• 2:14:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I did watch a little of it.

• 2:14:38Speaker 01

  Oh, it's so good.

• 2:14:39Joe Rogan?

  I turned it off after a while. I turned it off after a while.

• 2:14:44Joe Rogan?

  What's that?

• 2:14:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he is the most? So he's got Star Wars?

• 2:14:49Speaker 01

  He's got Raiders of the Lost Ark.

• 2:14:50Joe Rogan?

  Raiders of the Lost Ark.

• 2:14:51Speaker 01

  Jack Ryan.

• 2:14:52Speaker 03

  He's got 20 of them.

• 2:14:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Jack Ryan.

• 2:14:53Speaker 01

  He's got 20 of them?

• 2:14:54Speaker 03

  20?

• 2:14:55Speaker 01

  Wait, wait.

• 2:14:56Speaker 03

  It says franchise roles. I don't know if it's like, you know.

• 2:14:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh, like a small role?

• 2:15:00Speaker 03

  Or if it's 20 different franchises.

• 2:15:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay, well, starring in franchises, you got the two big ones. Raiders of the Lost Ark, huge. Star Wars, the hugest of all time.

• 2:15:08Speaker 01

  Can you imagine doing, can you imagine doing Star Wars and then doing Raiders of the Lost Ark? And you'd be just being like, "I guess I don't fuck up. I guess I just hit dingers."

• 2:15:19Joe Rogan?

  Well, I mean...

• 2:15:20Speaker 01

  Can you imagine?

• 2:15:21Joe Rogan?

  He, obviously, was very fortunate to get cast in those, but also he killed it, right?

• 2:15:26Speaker 01

  Apparently one of the coolest dudes to party with.

• 2:15:28Joe Rogan?

  The scene with him and fucking, the love tension between him and Carrie Fisher was amazing.

• 2:15:34Speaker 01

  Okay, can I ask you something? As a first grade Burt to a fourth grade Joe Rogan, did you know that Darth Vader was his dad in the first episode?

• 2:15:42Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:15:43Speaker 01

  Okay, I didn't either.

• 2:15:44Joe Rogan?

  I was a little kid.

• 2:15:44Speaker 01

  My fucking cousins were like, "How did you not know that?"

• 2:15:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, your cousins are douchebags. They didn't know either.

• 2:15:50Speaker 01

  God.

• 2:15:50Joe Rogan?

  They're bullshitting. They found out, and they were like, "How did you not know?" They were those guys. You know, those guys who just read something and then barks it at you like, "How the fuck do you not know this, man?"

• 2:16:00Speaker 01

  "You don't know the fucking Federal Reserve's..."

• 2:16:04Joe Rogan?

  You don't know about the ice wall?

• 2:16:06Speaker 01

  I think they had a game show called You'd Be Shocked What Bert Doesn't Know. People make a lot of money.

• 2:16:11Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:16:11Speaker 01

  I don't know anything.

• 2:16:13Joe Rogan?

  I know shit that doesn't help.

• 2:16:15Speaker 01

  You know the most interesting shit at a dinner party to talk about? Like, I don't know any of that shit.

• 2:16:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, I definitely can do that. I can talk on the surface level about a lot of stuff.

• 2:16:24Speaker 01

  Do you like when a person like, like Taylor? You were kind of between three conversations, because you were talking to your wife, you were talking to David. But like, me and Leanne were dead set talking to Taylor. And I love, I love when a dude holds court like that.

• 2:16:40Joe Rogan?

  That was a great table of cool people.

• 2:16:41Speaker 01

  The way he sat, where he's like, let me tell you about. I remember Leanne was like, I had 400 head of cattle as a kid, and he goes, yeah, I got 14,000. And I was like, Leanne, shut your mouth, let him talk. He did fucking Yellowstone, let him talk, don't stop, don't interrupt him.

• 2:16:55Joe Rogan?

  He's a storyteller, he's a great storyteller. And he's a guy, you know, there's a ranch that I hunt at in California, and he was a cowboy on that ranch.

• 2:17:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:17:04Joe Rogan?

  At one point in time, an actual cowboy. He actually worked and helped to fucking move cattle around.

• 2:17:10Speaker 01

  Oh, and you know me, like, you know, if sometimes if you tell a story, I get a similar story, I'll tell you my story after.

• 2:17:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:17:16Speaker 01

  Buddy.

• 2:17:17Joe Rogan?

  There's none of those in that guy.

• 2:17:18Speaker 01

  You can't, you can't top any of his fucking stories.

• 2:17:21Joe Rogan?

  But that's why his stories are so good, it's like lived experience.

• 2:17:24Speaker 01

  Very lived experience.

• 2:17:25Joe Rogan?

  A real understanding, that's like his love for the cowboy culture is like completely legitimate.

• 2:17:32Speaker 01

  It's why Yellowstone is so good.

• 2:17:33Joe Rogan?

  Yes, you can't, you can, I mean, you can fake it, people have faked it before, but when someone does it that really loves it, that's when it gets people excited and they move to Montana. They decide they will, I want to live that life. It's like Avatar depression, I want to be on Pandora. It's like people, you know, you get sucked in by someone who's done an amazing job of telling a film or a story in a show, and that's what entertainment is really all about. For me, I'm not looking for any fucking lessons about.

• 2:18:04Joe Rogan?

  Equity and inclusion, diversity. I'm already, I already think that way. I already think that all human beings are the same. We're all just one thing experiencing each other subjectively, as Bill Hicks said. I, I believe that. So I don't need that lesson. That lesson just makes me feel like you're preaching to me and that shit's annoying. I don't like it. It's bo- I get, I already know these things. Stop. We're doing it for other people. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. It just makes people more self-righteous and they want to talk about it all the time.

• 2:18:32Speaker 01

  I have a weird question. Do you think, cause like I, I feel like, cause I'm on Instagram a lot. Like I'm, I might be switching to a flip phone.

• 2:18:41Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:18:42Speaker 01

  But I'm not watching anything.

• 2:18:43Joe Rogan?

  Right after you quit drinking, right?

• 2:18:45Speaker 01

  No, my wife already bought the flip phone. She was like, dude, my daughters put parental controls on my Instagram.

• 2:18:51Joe Rogan?

  Ah, it's hilarious.

• 2:18:52Speaker 01

  I, I, I got, don't worry, I can get through them. But, um, would you think that like, I notice it seems like a lot of people now are almost living for Instagram. Like, like, hey, this is me and my three friends and we're sailing around the world. And then, do you think people were doing that before Instagram?

• 2:19:10Joe Rogan?

  No. No, I think definitely people are doing things so that they can show that they're doing things. But if you're actually doing things, like it's a balancing thing. Like if you're experiencing more stuff because you're documenting it for your YouTube channel, you're still experiencing more stuff. I mean, you are kind of, you're putting it all out there, but if, you're still experiencing more stuff. Like that's probably net positive. The problem is when you find yourself hanging out with your friends, but all you're doing is staring at your phone. You know, and it's a real, it's a real trap that we all get sucked into, especially if you had a good algorithm. You know, it's just filled with stuff that pisses you off or freaks you out, which is mine.

• 2:19:50Speaker 01

  Oh, I don't watch any, my shit's, my shit's all people doing epic shit.

• 2:19:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's good.

• 2:19:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, like I, like I followed these two dudes, Climb Everest. I followed them on Instagram, Climb Fucking Everest. And I was like, I gotta, I wanna climb Mount Kilimanjaro. Kilimanjaro is achievable.

• 2:20:06Joe Rogan?

  None of them.

• 2:20:07Speaker 01

  But I go, I want to do, I bet shit, like I got to a place when I was, I started taking time off in July. And I was like, yo, I need, I want a month, I want to sail to Hawaii. I want to see what it's like to be afraid, you know, in the middle of the ocean.

• 2:20:20Joe Rogan?

  Pull up how many people die on Mount Kilimanjaro.

• 2:20:24Speaker 01

  Oh, nobody. Mount Kilimanjaro is easy.

• 2:20:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:20:26Speaker 01

  It's a light lift, it's a light lift.

• 2:20:27Joe Rogan?

  People have died.

• 2:20:28Speaker 01

  And Mount Kilimanjaro is easy.

• 2:20:29Joe Rogan?

  I guarantee you.

• 2:20:30Speaker 01

  No, it's like a, it's a long, hard hike.

• 2:20:31Joe Rogan?

  I bet people have died.

• 2:20:33Speaker 01

  Okay, I, I bet it's under 10.

• 2:20:34Joe Rogan?

  How many? Three to 10 a year.

• 2:20:37Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:20:39Speaker 01

  But watch how many people will die going to Everest.

• 2:20:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's not good.

• 2:20:42Speaker 01

  Well, if you play Russian roulette with five bullets, you get shot more. I only play with one. How, ask him, no, hold on.

• 2:20:50Joe Rogan?

  That's the stupid fucking thing to say. You know how many people definitely don't die on Mount Kilimanjaro that don't go to Mount Kilimanjaro? 100% of them.

• 2:20:58Speaker 01

  100% of all of them.

• 2:20:58Joe Rogan?

  100% of the people that don't go up that fucking stupid mountain. Just get a fucking Oculus and watch that shit. Just watch it, watch it in your, your head, you can get videos of it. 340 people have died attempting to reach or return, what, what happened? Oh, uh, Mount Everest. Since records began, many bodies remain. Have you ever seen the bodies scattered, like the map of the bodies? Where they show where the known dead bodies on Mount Everest are? It's terrifying.

• 2:21:26Speaker 01

  Do you want to know the craziest one?

• 2:21:27Joe Rogan?

  Sure.

• 2:21:27Speaker 01

  So the first dude to ever attempt the summit, I think his name was Mallory, right? Evan Hillary is the one that got it. So he, they said, they found his body, you know, probably like five years after, 10 years after. And they said he had a broken leg, a fractured skull and his pic. And that's how they could figure out it was him because his initials were in his pic. And they said, he always carried a picture of his wife. Cause he was going to put the picture of his wife on the top of Mount Everest and it wasn't in his pocket. So they're like, did he, was he in fact the first person to get there?

• 2:21:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh, probably.

• 2:22:00Speaker 01

  And then he left it there and then died on the, coming down.

• 2:22:03Joe Rogan?

  Probably.

• 2:22:03Speaker 01

  The other thing that I think is wild is. Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay made a deal that they would reach the summit at the same time. Cause it was like, you know, who gets to the summit first? And it's, it's, I mean, when you think about it, you know, especially with racism back then. Edmund Hillary was a Kiwi and you know, he must've been like, hey, brown guy, just carry the bags. I'm gonna, I'm gonna get up there and you come up, get a picture of me and then we'll do it one together and then we'll let it down. But they made a deal to go up together because they needed him that much.

• 2:22:33Joe Rogan?

  Hmm, well, you definitely need, those Sherpas can go all the way up there with no oxygen.

• 2:22:37Speaker 01

  Those Sherpas will get locked on a ledge with a bunch of, uh, white people. The white people will have to have helicopters come out and get them. A helicopter, I think can only get to like, uh, twenty-three hundred feet, twenty-three thousand feet is like, like the safe zone. They'll come and get the white people out and then the Sherpas are like, oh, we're gonna walk down, we're good. They'll, they'll hang out for like seven days up there. And then I just heard a documentary about it or a podcast, but those guys can, are so fucking good at it.

• 2:23:04Joe Rogan?

  Also, they're so adapted to that climate, they live up there. That, the, the adaption is a big part of it, right? Because it takes a long time to be able to adapt to that low of an altitude or high of an altitude, rather.

• 2:23:16Speaker 01

  Look what they're carrying up.

• 2:23:18Joe Rogan?

  That shit on his back, that is crazy. Bro, I walk around with a forty-five pound plate and I, I complain.

• 2:23:25Joe Rogan?

  That's so much shit. That guy must have legs of steel. How, how bad is his lower back though?

• 2:23:31Speaker 01

  They all smoke.

• 2:23:32Joe Rogan?

  I bet they smoke like a chimney.

• 2:23:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:23:34Joe Rogan?

  Do they smoke? Do Sherpas smoke?

• 2:23:38Speaker 01

  I just saw a documentary on, uh, Netflix about the earthquake in.

• 2:23:42Joe Rogan?

  Look at him, smoking.

• 2:23:44Speaker 01

  Eric Shipton.

• 2:23:45Joe Rogan?

  Look at that guy. That's one of them early explorer type fellows. Click on that, that dude with the pipe. Yeah, look at that guy. Back in the day, man, no fucking internet. These guys had heard about it. They heard about it, you know? And we're gonna go. Probably saw a photo that one person took, you know? I mean, back then, how many fucking people had photos?

• 2:24:05Speaker 01

  The, the guy who figured out the height in like, what, fucking thirty and like turn, turn of century? Was a Indian guy or, you know, Nepalese. He figured out the height and he was within thirty feet of being correct. Just from distance and doing math, he was in thirty feet after satellite images came in.

• 2:24:22Joe Rogan?

  Look at this, Everest pioneers packed fifteen thousand cigarettes.

• 2:24:26Speaker 01

  Holy shit.

• 2:24:29Joe Rogan?

  Despite low oxygen.

• 2:24:31Speaker 01

  I bet they thought it was good for their lungs.

• 2:24:34Joe Rogan?

  Well, people used to think that it was like an exercise for your lungs.

• 2:24:36Speaker 01

  They did that with Teddy Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt's dad, Teddy Roosevelt had asthma.

• 2:24:41Joe Rogan?

  That's right.

• 2:24:42Speaker 01

  And his dad would make him smoke cigars with him in his lounge. He's like, it'll strengthen your lungs.

• 2:24:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I saw something like that where a doctor, and it was like an old timey movie. God, who was it? Who was it? I think it was Leonardo DiCaprio. Like, who did Leonardo DiCaprio play in a movie? He played some famous wealthy guy.

• 2:25:02Speaker 01

  Howard Hughes.

• 2:25:03Joe Rogan?

  That's right. And I think it was when Howard Hughes was young, he had bad lungs and the doctor was prescribing cigarettes to him. God, I hope I'm not remembering this wrong. I may be. But I know that they used to, some doctors would recommend cigarettes to certain people that have certain lung issues.

• 2:25:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:25:19Joe Rogan?

  Which is so crazy.

• 2:25:21Speaker 01

  I would see.

• 2:25:21Joe Rogan?

  They were so bad.

• 2:25:22Speaker 01

  Oh, dude.

• 2:25:23Joe Rogan?

  How bad was going to the doctor back then?

• 2:25:25Speaker 01

  Oh, they were just guessing.

• 2:25:28Joe Rogan?

  I mean, not just guessing, but guessing so wrong.

• 2:25:31Speaker 01

  I asked my dad about the polio vaccine, and I go, did they have to run it by your parents? He goes, parents? They just took us into the gym and stuck everyone. I mean, they just were like, yo, we think this works.

• 2:25:43Joe Rogan?

  What was the, there's a controversy yesterday when there was some sort of a hearing on whether or not they should ban sugar and candy from school lunches. Or whether they should discourage sugar and candy. And it was something like the American Heart Association voted to not restrict the diets of kids. And everybody was like, what? What's going on? Like, let me get this right, because I was supposed to save this and I was on the phone and I didn't. See if you can find it, Jamie. But it was a conversation that was happening yesterday. And it was being shared on the internet where people are freaking out.

• 2:26:26Speaker 01

  And you're talking about school lunches, not like what your parents.

• 2:26:28Joe Rogan?

  I don't remember correctly, unfortunately.

• 2:26:30Speaker 01

  So there were restrictions, if I'm not mistaken, there were restrictions on what we could give our kids to school.

• 2:26:36Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:26:36Speaker 01

  You couldn't just give them everything. You couldn't just give them candy. Couldn't give them candy.

• 2:26:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, here it is. Trump officials want to ban junk food from SNAP, but past efforts show it's not easy. No, that's not it.

• 2:26:49Joe Rogan?

  That's the only thing coming up?

• 2:26:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, it has to do with this, but I don't know what's, I'm trying to figure it out.

• 2:26:52Joe Rogan?

  There was a video, oh god, I want to save them.

• 2:26:55Speaker 03

  Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.

• 2:26:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that, that's, I think that's the push, but there was resistance to it that I thought was crazy. God damn it, I know I saved it.

• 2:27:06Speaker 03

  The Heart Association here.

• 2:27:08Joe Rogan?

  Is that it?

• 2:27:10Speaker 03

  It's the same thing as Texas SNAP.

• 2:27:12Joe Rogan?

  Okay, this is it. American Heart Association opposes, uh, the SNAP sugary food drink regulations. That's what it is. American Heart Association opposes a Texas bill that would restrict using SNAP benefits to purchase sugary drinks and processed snacks. Critics' question of corporate funding influences the American Health Association's policies. The AHA's opposition has sparked criticism over its history of receiving funding from major food companies like PepsiCo and Coca-Cola, raising concerns about conflicts of interest. An AHA spokesperson said their position on the Texas legislation was miscommunicated. Uh, they say the organization has long favored the USDA using its authority to increase the consumption

• 2:27:56Joe Rogan?

  of healthy foods and decrease consumption of sugary drinks. So they changed their opinion, probably based on controversy?

• 2:28:05Joe Rogan?

  Hmm, okay, I often say, look at this. During the hearing, uh, lawmakers and public health advocates voiced their opinions. Uh, State Senator Lois Kolkhorst expressed shock over AHA's opposition during the hearing. I often say that I can never be surprised in this building, but for the American Heart Association to be against this bill, that might be the surprise of the session so far.

• 2:28:31Joe Rogan?

  It's kind of weird that they would, they would, I mean, it doesn't even make sense. That's obviously not good for you.

• 2:28:38Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:28:38Joe Rogan?

  Like, why would they encourage that? Or change it? Like, what would be their, I forget what their argument was.

• 2:28:44Speaker 01

  Is it like a classist argument?

• 2:28:46Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 2:28:47Speaker 01

  It's because it seems like a classist thing. When you go to Whole Foods, it's different than going to Ralph's or Vons.

• 2:28:53Joe Rogan?

  This is what it says. Pointy testified the AHA was concerned about the bill's potential impact on SNAP participation. He also emphasized the importance of educating the public about healthy eating instead of restricting purchases. See, but that seems weird. Like, what better way to encourage healthy eating than to say, you're not gonna starve. You can get food.

• 2:29:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:29:14Joe Rogan?

  But you can't buy shit. You can go buy hamburgers.

• 2:29:18Speaker 01

  But where does this line draw the line? I'm just thinking like, the other day I was in, I was in traffic and I thought, I can't believe they, they still let people ride motorcycles. Cause people die all the time. And they drive and they cut lanes.

• 2:29:31Joe Rogan?

  Cars too though.

• 2:29:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, but in motorcycles, like I'm getting one and my wife's like, that's how you're, oh yeah, fuck yeah.

• 2:29:36Joe Rogan?

  Why are you doing that?

• 2:29:37Speaker 01

  Cause Harley reached out.

• 2:29:38Joe Rogan?

  Oh, don't.

• 2:29:39Speaker 01

  And they were like, come on, buddy.

• 2:29:40Joe Rogan?

  Not in California, buddy.

• 2:29:41Speaker 01

  Dude, just for late night.

• 2:29:43Joe Rogan?

  Drive out here. Late nights when the crackheads are out.

• 2:29:45Speaker 01

  I'll tell you what, I'll leave it here. If I can leave you your studio.

• 2:29:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, leave it here.

• 2:29:48Speaker 01

  And then this will be my Austin bike.

• 2:29:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you're gonna have another bike. You're gonna have an Austin bike and a fucking, this motherfucker. Yeah, you can park here.

• 2:29:54Speaker 01

  I'm coming out to Austin, uh, for like two, two weeks in June.

• 2:29:57Joe Rogan?

  Nice.

• 2:29:58Speaker 01

  Get ready for my tour.

• 2:29:59Joe Rogan?

  Your kids have left the nest. It's time to bail, my brother.

• 2:30:02Speaker 01

  Buddy, I'm living with one person every day, all fucking day.

• 2:30:06Joe Rogan?

  Wild.

• 2:30:06Speaker 01

  I know. We do everything together.

• 2:30:08Joe Rogan?

  Come over here.

• 2:30:10Joe Rogan?

  Come here. You don't need to be in that bullshit state.

• 2:30:12Speaker 01

  The, uh.

• 2:30:13Joe Rogan?

  There's no need for that anymore.

• 2:30:14Speaker 01

  The mother shit is just such a great.

• 2:30:15Joe Rogan?

  So your fucking house.

• 2:30:16Speaker 01

  Dude, such a great place to do stand up. It's such a great vibe right there, right now.

• 2:30:21Joe Rogan?

  It's a great place to hang.

• 2:30:22Speaker 01

  No, dude.

• 2:30:22Joe Rogan?

  Fun.

• 2:30:23Speaker 01

  I went over there after our party on, by Southwest, South by, and just got fucking lit. Tony, Shane.

• 2:30:29Joe Rogan?

  It's a fun place, man.

• 2:30:30Speaker 01

  Called it, called it early. But I told Leanne, I said, I'm gonna do like a week in Oxford, I was gonna do a little run on my tour bus. I said, I'm, I think I'm gonna take my tour bus to Austin. Just stay here for like a week, two weeks.

• 2:30:40Joe Rogan?

  It's a good place to fuck around, do new stuff too.

• 2:30:42Speaker 01

  It is.

• 2:30:43Joe Rogan?

  Especially in the little room. That little room is just, oh.

• 2:30:46Speaker 01

  I can't tell you how valuable it is to have phones in yonder pouches.

• 2:30:49Joe Rogan?

  Comedy Store's doing that now. Yeah, Peter Shore told me.

• 2:30:52Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:30:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I was so, I'm like, that is amazing. Really?

• 2:30:56Speaker 01

  I don't know. I don't think so.

• 2:30:58Joe Rogan?

  He was, this was two weeks ago.

• 2:31:00Speaker 01

  Maybe it was longer. I don't know. Last time I was there, I said some wild shit.

• 2:31:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no. When it get out?

• 2:31:04Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 2:31:07Joe Rogan?

  You can't practice.

• 2:31:09Speaker 01

  You can't fucking say.

• 2:31:09Joe Rogan?

  You gotta be able to practice.

• 2:31:11Speaker 01

  And it's the snitches. It's the snitches that want you to say, it's almost like it's the fucking cunts that you.

• 2:31:17Joe Rogan?

  They can't help it because you can get so many likes.

• 2:31:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I'm like, bitch, you want this comedy.

• 2:31:21Joe Rogan?

  Right, but if you put something, if you say something wild on stage and it's funny and they laugh, you could take that and put it on your Instagram and you'll get two million views. And that's just too tempting for people. We bust people with those meta glasses. Yeah, they try to come in with their fucking Ray-Bans on and film things. Those meta glasses are amazing. My friend Jimmy, who works for the UFC, had them on the other day. Upon arrival at the venue, all phones procured in yonder bags.

• 2:31:47Speaker 01

  Is this the store?

• 2:31:48Joe Rogan?

  Yes, Comedy Store.

• 2:31:49Speaker 01

  December 10th?

• 2:31:50Joe Rogan?

  Yep, 2024.

• 2:31:52Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 2:31:53Joe Rogan?

  Nice.

• 2:31:54Speaker 01

  Oh, I guess.

• 2:31:55Joe Rogan?

  So they just forgot. Or maybe it was a comic who had his phone out. Some comic threw you down the river.

• 2:32:00Speaker 01

  Fucking.

• 2:32:01Joe Rogan?

  That happens. There's a lot of cunty comics, especially like.

• 2:32:05Speaker 01

  There's a lot of cunty comics? I'm starting to think that's all they got.

• 2:32:08Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:32:08Speaker 01

  Buddy, did you ever, hey Joe, did you ever, this is what makes me crazy.

• 2:32:13Joe Rogan?

  What makes you crazy, Bert Kreischer?

• 2:32:14Speaker 01

  Did you ever be friends with someone? And then all of a sudden realize you've been competing the whole time, but you didn't know you were in a competition?

• 2:32:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's unfortunate. That's unfortunate. Inspired by is a better way to look at life. Competing is just not good for you.

• 2:32:29Speaker 01

  I've never once competed with another comic. I've been inspired by so many fucking comics.

• 2:32:34Joe Rogan?

  That's good. You have a healthy mindset. But I think our whole group has a healthy mindset.

• 2:32:38Speaker 01

  I think so.

• 2:32:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we don't have any cunts. We don't have any jealous, bitter cunts in the group of people that we're hanging with.

• 2:32:45Speaker 01

  I mean.

• 2:32:45Joe Rogan?

  That's so important.

• 2:32:46Speaker 01

  I hung with Chappelle one night and he just called, I was in Dayton, he was like, yo, why don't you come out and party? And I was like, cool. And then we went out and partied and I, you know, I kind of forget what a fan I am of his, of like how, just how great he is. I mean, his kicker in the pussy joke might be one of my favorite jokes ever that's ever been written. It's so fucking dope.

• 2:33:06Joe Rogan?

  He's a great comic, but he's a great human.

• 2:33:07Speaker 01

  He's a great human.

• 2:33:09Joe Rogan?

  He's a fun hang. Like, he's a genuine sweetheart of a guy.

• 2:33:12Speaker 01

  I was with him right before I shot the special and I said to him, and we're fucking lit, right? And I go, yo, Dave, I don't want to fucking, I go, I don't want to talk shop, I just want to hang, but I gotta say, you're the greatest ever do it. I'm getting ready to shoot my special. I just would love a little bit of your insight of what you think, like how you prepare for one.

• 2:33:31Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 2:33:31Speaker 01

  Chappelle lights a cigarette and he's like, alright. How many shows? I said six. He goes, perfect. And then he breaks down. I'm not gonna do it cuz it's Dave's secret. It's Dave's thing. He shared. I don't wanna... But he broke down how he does a special to me. Me and him, sitting in a fucking, in a barn, in the middle of a field, in fucking three in the morning with IVs in our arms. And I was like, I was like, dude, I gave him a hug. I was like, he's just saying, he's the fucking greatest. Him and Cat Williams, two of the baddest motherfuckers and the sweetest guys. But I was like, that, that energy, like, I have no, I want, I want Chappelle's special to be fucking amazing when it comes out.

• 2:34:09Joe Rogan?

  It will be.

• 2:34:10Speaker 01

  Everyone's telling me how great Schultz's special is. I can't wait to fucking watch it.

• 2:34:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but you have a good attitude. That's a good attitude. That's how you're supposed to think.

• 2:34:17Speaker 01

  That's how I, that's, that's how I think, but...

• 2:34:20Joe Rogan?

  It's not, the other way is not good for you.

• 2:34:22Speaker 01

  Let me see that.

• 2:34:23Joe Rogan?

  Think about it, is the other way is, but you want another one? You want a new one?

• 2:34:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'll take a new one.

• 2:34:26Joe Rogan?

  The other way is bad for you as a human.

• 2:34:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:34:30Joe Rogan?

  It's not healthy to think that way. It doesn't do you any good. It only serves you to get fucked up. It's, it only serves your, your ego and your bullshit. You got the clippers? See them in the back? There you go.

• 2:34:43Speaker 01

  Fu- ego, man.

• 2:34:44Joe Rogan?

  It's just not good for you. It doesn't help you. It only hurts you. It doesn't hurt the person that you're jealous of, and it hurts you. It's just, it's not necessary. You could, you could just be inspired and you could say, oh, this fucking mutt can make it. You can say that. I can do it too, but don't be jealous. If you don't like someone and they're becoming very successful, maybe think why you react so strongly. Cuz a lot of times, it's unfortunately jealousy. Like, there's comics that I don't think they're ve- very good. They don't make me laugh, but I don't care. I don't get mad at them. You know what I'm saying?

• 2:35:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:35:22Joe Rogan?

  I don't get upset at them. They, I mean, I'll be friends with them. I'll be, I'll like them. I'll, you know, there's comics that I, and I had to learn how to do that. Cuz it used to be like, if guys weren't funny, I just couldn't deal with them. Couldn't hang out with them. I'm friends with a few people that suck. But they're nice people, you know, you can separate that. But I'm also friends with some people that are mind blowing, you know, and there's such a value in that. You know, when you're around people that are like really good at what they do, when you're around Dave. And Schultz is my favorite for going to a place and then talking shit about the place in such a brilliant way.

• 2:36:02Speaker 01

  I think Schultz is fucking brilliant.

• 2:36:03Joe Rogan?

  He's so good.

• 2:36:04Speaker 01

  Dude, the whole shit with Kendrick Lamar. I was getting in the shower, reading it, texting him, I'm sitting outside the shower texting him my favorite lines. The only thing he has to do is decide if it's consensual.

• 2:36:16Joe Rogan?

  That was crazy.

• 2:36:17Speaker 01

  I but I fucking, but I get inspired by motherfuckers like that.

• 2:36:21Joe Rogan?

  He's a funny dude, man, and the thing, did you ever see the thing he did about Hawaii?

• 2:36:25Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:36:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God, it's so funny. He's in Hawaii, he goes, he starts to set up, he goes, I've never seen chickens more confident.

• 2:36:37Joe Rogan?

  He has this whole bit about chickens in Hawaii, like just wandered, it's just, it's such a funny bit. It's so, if you've been to Hawaii, you know, there's chickens all over the fucking place, it's kind of crazy.

• 2:36:48Speaker 01

  Do you know who else does that? Tommy.

• 2:36:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:36:50Speaker 01

  Tommy shits on a place so aggressively and they love it.

• 2:36:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:36:55Speaker 01

  Like he did Dublin one year, like same way we both did it, and he goes, is it fun? I said, I had the best time of my life. He goes up and it's the day the king gets coronated, coronated? And he goes out, first words, he's like, fuck your king. And the place starts going, ole, ole, ole, ole. Tommy didn't know if they were gonna stop singing. We did a show in Hawaii and he goes, at Pearl Harbor, and they're like, alright, Tommy opens the show. He goes, they're like, first rule, don't make fun of the Hawaiians. Second rule, do not bring up Pearl Harbor. First and second joke, first joke, man, they say island life's slow, I didn't know they were talking about your metabolism. Man, you guys are fat as fuck. I was taking a walk, I don't want to be as fat as you guys, I got lost on the base.

• 2:37:38Speaker 01

  Lucky there are a couple Japanese guys that are pretty familiar with where, how this base operates. Me and Russell Peters are crying laughing, the admiral's losing, it's like, god damn it, what did I fucking tell him?

• 2:37:48Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious when they think they can tell you what not to talk about.

• 2:37:51Speaker 01

  They, I have an offer to do Dubai.

• 2:37:55Joe Rogan?

  Don't.

• 2:37:57Joe Rogan?

  You're gonna fuck up. You're gonna say something stupid.

• 2:37:59Speaker 01

  That's what.

• 2:38:00Joe Rogan?

  And they're gonna put you in jail.

• 2:38:01Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 2:38:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they arrest people over there.

• 2:38:03Speaker 01

  I know.

• 2:38:04Joe Rogan?

  You can't play games Dubai. Did you see that one lady who went crazy at the airport?

• 2:38:08Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:38:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, she got a little, little rowdy at the airport, started yelling at people and they're like, that's a rap. You're going to jail.

• 2:38:16Speaker 01

  Dude.

• 2:38:17Joe Rogan?

  They'll fuck around over there, man. I have a friend who moved there. My friend Will, and he's a documentary filmmaker and he said like, it's so safe over here. He goes, that's what I love about it. He goes, when I was in America, it's like, you go out at night, you're at a club, you're always worried someone's gonna pull a gun out, something's gonna happen. He goes, there, there's nothing.

• 2:38:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:38:34Joe Rogan?

  No crime.

• 2:38:35Speaker 01

  But there's our, it's like Singapore, there's crazy rules.

• 2:38:37Joe Rogan?

  Right, but.

• 2:38:38Speaker 01

  And if you don't know all the rules.

• 2:38:39Joe Rogan?

  It's a real good question. Would you rather have a little bit of danger? And very little rules? Or would you rather have no danger and a lot of rules?

• 2:38:48Speaker 01

  I want a little danger and a little rule.

• 2:38:50Joe Rogan?

  I agree. Yeah, I don't want to live in a place where they restrict what you could say and what you do.

• 2:38:54Speaker 01

  It's not even that. They said to me in the contract, we signed up to do, I do a tour starting in October, Permission to Party. Permission to Party is the name of the fucking tour. Permission to Party. And they go, what about Dubai? I go, I don't think they're gonna give me permission. I think they're gonna die. The first thing was, you have to wear a shirt on stage. And I was like.

• 2:39:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's a rap.

• 2:39:13Speaker 01

  I go, hey, man.

• 2:39:13Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 2:39:14Speaker 01

  It's kind of my thing, like.

• 2:39:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:39:15Speaker 01

  I'm comfortable shirtless. That's how I, that's how I perform.

• 2:39:19Joe Rogan?

  That's so crazy. You can't wear no shirt. Oh, there's a, okay. You guys have crazy rules. Those rules don't make sense.

• 2:39:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:39:27Joe Rogan?

  Like, what about Cirque du Soleil? They have to, they wear shirts? They do.

• 2:39:31Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 2:39:31Joe Rogan?

  They do. I'm making that up. Like, what about MMA? How come they have MMA over there?

• 2:39:36Speaker 01

  How can they have MMA?

• 2:39:38Joe Rogan?

  That's what I'm saying. Are they performing with no shirts on?

• 2:39:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:39:41Joe Rogan?

  You gonna make guys wear fucking wetsuits? What are you gonna, what are you?

• 2:39:46Joe Rogan?

  What are they gonna wear?

• 2:39:47Speaker 01

  Now, by the way, that's the same argument I said as I got kicked out of a Buffalo Wild Wings with my shirt off. And they're like, put your shirt on. I go, the guys on MMA are wearing fucking shirts.

• 2:39:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's different.

• 2:39:55Speaker 01

  It's a little different.

• 2:39:56Joe Rogan?

  That's different. They're doing it as sport. But the point is, like, if you're performing, that's part of your performance. It's like, you know how there's rules in LA, like, if you performed on stage, you're allowed to smoke cigarettes? It's a part of your performance. So like Chappelle was always lighting up even after the rules and everybody's like, heck, how come he can smoke? Cause it was like in the nineties that they passed the laws where you're not allowed to smoke in comedy clubs anymore. Do you remember that?

• 2:40:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was if it was part of your act, you could smoke. That's how Ron White smoked cigars on stage.

• 2:40:23Joe Rogan?

  Right, but it was a, there was a law before that. You were allowed to smoke in bars.

• 2:40:27Speaker 01

  I remember doing stand up when you could smoke at the Boston Comedy Club. And buddy, do you remember, do you remember the Laugh Stop in Houston?

• 2:40:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:40:35Speaker 01

  That place, there were so many cigarettes, you would come out with a cough.

• 2:40:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was the, the air was filled with smoke.

• 2:40:42Speaker 01

  Your jeans would smell?

• 2:40:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, you always smelled. I always, always come home from a club back in the, the nineties and I'd smell my clothes. They all, they always smelled like cigarettes. But you got used to like the smoky room. It was like part of the thing about a comedy club is like, when people smoke cigarettes, they're doing something really stupid.

• 2:40:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:40:58Joe Rogan?

  You know what I mean? And like doing something really stupid and say, fuck it. There's so much fuck it in a cigarette and there's fuck it in a drink. And there's fuck it in this guy talking shit on stage. Ah, he sucked his own dick. Ah! It like led to the atmosphere. It's like, I loved it in pool halls too. I love, I loved being around the smokers, even if I didn't want to have anything to do with it.

• 2:41:17Speaker 01

  Do you remember the comics that would smoke on stage and then they'd go and do the Tonight Show and they didn't know what to do with their right hand?

• 2:41:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, there was that, right? Well, back in the Tonight Show, the early days, I was watching the other day, I was watching Jackie Gleason on the Tonight Show. And it was the only time I think he was ever on the Tonight Show, which is kind of crazy. But there was just, he sat there, I immediately light the cigarette. By the way, he was dead two years later. Yeah. He died of cancer in eighty-seven? Google that.

• 2:41:47Speaker 01

  Johnny Carson had a little cigarette box.

• 2:41:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so this is, uh.

• 2:41:51Speaker 01

  Those are his cigarettes right there in his little cigarette box.

• 2:41:53Joe Rogan?

  Immediately when he sits down, well, Carson also died.

• 2:41:56Speaker 01

  Great does that feel?

• 2:41:58Joe Rogan?

  Carson also died of cancer.

• 2:41:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:42:00Joe Rogan?

  Look at that, just sitting there. How sweet it is.

• 2:42:03Speaker 01

  Sweet it is.

• 2:42:04Joe Rogan?

  That's what he said right there.

• 2:42:06Speaker 01

  He did, uh, he did, uh, Smokey and the Bandit and they offered him points on the movie and he said, I'll take cash.

• 2:42:13Joe Rogan?

  Whoops.

• 2:42:13Speaker 01

  I know.

• 2:42:14Joe Rogan?

  Damn.

• 2:42:15Speaker 01

  I saw the sexiest thing in Palm Springs the other day.

• 2:42:20Speaker 01

  White Cadillac.

• 2:42:21Joe Rogan?

  Was it that lady playing golf?

• 2:42:22Speaker 01

  No, white Cadillac. Seventy-five-year-old woman, hair done, little coiff, windows up, white, big Cadillac. She puts a one-hundred cigarette, windows up, and lights it in her car. Just windows up, and I went, fucking old school.

• 2:42:37Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 2:42:37Speaker 01

  I don't know, you, when was the last time you saw someone smoke a cigarette in the car?

• 2:42:40Joe Rogan?

  I bet that lady's never been vaccinated. She's never gonna get cancer.

• 2:42:43Speaker 01

  He's never dying. She's never fucking dying.

• 2:42:47Joe Rogan?

  She's got them old-school pioneer genes.

• 2:42:50Speaker 01

  Did you ever hear the story about Johnny Carson almost got killed by the guy in the mob?

• 2:42:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, what was that about?

• 2:42:55Speaker 01

  I've, he, it was a, it was a-

• 2:42:57Joe Rogan?

  Did he make a mob joke or something?

• 2:42:58Speaker 01

  No, he, Frank Sinatra had to negotiate-

• 2:43:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:43:01Speaker 01

  -his safety.

• 2:43:03Joe Rogan?

  What was it about?

• 2:43:04Speaker 01

  Johnny Carson, uh, was at a bar drunk, and the mobster's girl was there, and the mobster was in the back, and Johnny Carson hit on the mobster's girl-

• 2:43:11Joe Rogan?

  Ooh.

• 2:43:12Speaker 01

  -and like smacked her ass, or lifted her skirt up.

• 2:43:14Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no.

• 2:43:16Speaker 01

  And they were like, "We're gonna kill him," and they went out and he hid. And then he went out and they're like, "No, we have a hit on him, he's gonna die." And Frank Sinatra had to negotiate it.

• 2:43:24Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 2:43:25Speaker 01

  Someone just told, "Oh, you know who told it to me? Goddamn it."

• 2:43:29Joe Rogan?

  Who?

• 2:43:30Speaker 01

  Oh, Shaun, bitch. Uh, I'm, uh, not Fletcher, uh, comedy store comic, white hair, did The Tonight Show a hundred-and-twenty times. Uh, you know him.

• 2:43:39Joe Rogan?

  Argus?

• 2:43:40Speaker 01

  Argus, I think it was Argus told me that story.

• 2:43:41Joe Rogan?

  Argus Hamilton, that makes sense. Yeah, Argus, old-school.

• 2:43:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:43:44Joe Rogan?

  Argus is a funny dude, man.

• 2:43:45Speaker 01

  Argus is fucking great, man.

• 2:43:47Joe Rogan?

  He's like, very underrated. Unidentified wise guy and his goons picked Carson up off his bar stool and threw him down a flight of stairs before famed saloon owner, Gilly Rizzo, whose regulars included Sinatra, Dean Martin, and Judy Garland, interceded and prevented a more serious beatdown. But the mob big wasn't satisfied and put out a contract to have Carson whacked. Terrified Carson wisely holed up in his UN Plaza Palace for three days, missing three shows, according to the book. The vengeful mobsters only backed off after one of Carson's contacts at the William Morris Agency cut a crime, cut a deal with crime boss Joseph Colombo. Holy shit.

• 2:44:28Speaker 01

  What? Oh, the American Civil Rights League, oh, yeah.

• 2:44:31Joe Rogan?

  The mob boss had recently formed the Italian-American Civil Rights League to persuade America that a group, the people of Italian descent, were being unfairly stereotyped as mafiosi. That's hilarious. The group is planning for a big rally, and Colombo is deeply, deeply disappointed that so far all of the networks have refused to cover the rally. Sooner an accommodation was reached, NBC News covered the rally and Johnny could leave the apartment.

• 2:44:54Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:44:55Joe Rogan?

  As for Colombo, he was gunned down in 1971 at the second annual Italian Unity Day Rally. In Columbus Circle. He was left almost totally paralyzed and died in 1978. Holy shit. That was the last of the rallies. So they, they, so he developed, I know, there's a way around this. No one's paying attention to a Italian-American Civil Liberties Rally.

• 2:45:22Speaker 01

  They're making us look like thugs, like we're gonna shoot each other in a rally.

• 2:45:26Joe Rogan?

  Bro.

• 2:45:27Speaker 01

  Goddamn.

• 2:45:28Joe Rogan?

  Those were scary days, man. Those were scary, scary days. But that was the story about the store. Cause the store used to be Zero's nightclub. So Bugsy Siegel owned Zero's. Did you know that?

• 2:45:39Speaker 01

  I knew that. I didn't know that Bugsy Siegel owned it.

• 2:45:42Joe Rogan?

  Yes. It was Bugsy Siegel owned Zero's nightclub. And that place was scary, apparently. That's why all those people see ghosts in that spot.

• 2:45:51Speaker 01

  Bad shit happened there.

• 2:45:52Joe Rogan?

  100%. 100%. You got a mob-owned nightclub, people are getting shot. I mean, people got shot at the Comedy Store when we were there.

• 2:46:03Speaker 01

  We...

• 2:46:04Joe Rogan?

  A guy got murdered on the fucking front patio. It was a gang hit.

• 2:46:07Speaker 01

  During like Mo Better Mondays or something.

• 2:46:09Joe Rogan?

  Rose was there when it happened. Rose saw the guy die.

• 2:46:12Speaker 01

  Oh shit.

• 2:46:15Speaker 01

  That's, that's...

• 2:46:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that place is always attracted crazy people. That place is always, I, I think there's an energy to that place, probably because of the gang history. That just made it like extra wild and dangerous. Just always felt like anything can happen in that place. I think there's like baked-in memories. Like, there's photos of like Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis on stage there.

• 2:46:41Joe Rogan?

  That place was like, that was the spot. Like, that was the spot in LA, and the mob would all be there, and they'd fucking do deals, whack people, and take people down the basement and fucking kill them.

• 2:46:53Speaker 01

  That's, out of all the scariness in movies, the scariest part of any movie is one of those mob movies where they say to the guy, "Hey, Johnny wants to talk to you tonight." And the guy's like, "Tell Johnny I'll call tomorrow." And he's like, "No, he said to get in the car now." And the guy goes, "Well, I'll take my car." He goes, "No, no, you're gonna get in the car with us." And you know-

• 2:47:10Joe Rogan?

  That guy's gonna die. He's gonna die.

• 2:47:12Speaker 01

  Looks at his friend, takes off his ring-

• 2:47:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:47:14Speaker 01

  Gives it to him, and I, I don't know, I'm such a bitch, that if, in those moments, I'd be like, "No, I don't wanna go."

• 2:47:21Joe Rogan?

  (laughing)

• 2:47:22Speaker 01

  And just start running. Or like, when you see in the war movies, like, when you, when you see, like, in, what was the one, nineteen, uh, nineteen seventeen? When they tell those two kids they gotta run, and go tell the front line what to do?

• 2:47:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:47:34Speaker 01

  Is that nineteen seventeen?

• 2:47:35Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 2:47:36Speaker 03

  It's all part of the Western Front.

• 2:47:38Speaker 01

  Like, my, my grandfather stormed the beaches of Normandy.

• 2:47:40Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:47:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, and, uh-

• 2:47:42Joe Rogan?

  Did you ever talk to him about it?

• 2:47:43Speaker 01

  No, he died way before I was born.

• 2:47:45Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit.

• 2:47:46Speaker 01

  He, uh, he was one of those PTSD Levittown ki- guys. Moved to Levittown, and my dad said he just would sit in the garage, drink beers, and listen to Met games, and just wash his car. My dad said he never heard his dad ever mention the war, and if the war was brought up, his dad would walk out of the room.

• 2:48:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Jesus Christ.

• 2:48:03Speaker 01

  But he stormed the beaches of Normandy, and I, I, I don't know, I don't know if I have the thing in me to get off the boat. I think I'm a bitch, I think I'd be like, I'd lock down, I'd be like, "I'm not getting off." Like, I, when you look at, like, guys like Jaco-

• 2:48:19Joe Rogan?

  I think you had to get off that boat, buddy. I don't think you had a choice. And I think when your friends are running off that boat, you run off that boat too, and guys are getting gunned down, you just hope it's not you, and you're probably just shitting your pants.

• 2:48:31Speaker 01

  Shitting my pants.

• 2:48:32Joe Rogan?

  And, and that, that one day, like, how many thousands of people died? Thousands and thousands of people died, just bullets and guns going off everywhere. Like, that's, that fucking movie, the, um-

• 2:48:45Speaker 01

  Saving Private Ryan.

• 2:48:45Joe Rogan?

  Yes. Spielberg nailed that movie.

• 2:48:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:48:49Joe Rogan?

  That opening scene was so fucking horrific, that you'd never seen a scene like that in a war movie that accurately depicts people getting torn apart right in front of you.

• 2:49:01Speaker 01

  My dad found his dad's diary from the war. And he photocopied it and sent me the photocopy. My dad has the diary. And it's funny because, you know, I'm. My memory is like jaded to how I find things interesting. So sometimes it's not a hundred percent accurate. But if in in there, there was a memory of like, they took one of these like Q boats, I think, or K boats. Across the fucking Atlantic over to England. Barely got had time to get off the boat, stayed in England for a second. I think. They I want to say they stayed on the boat the whole time and then took that same boat over to, or they probably took different boats. But took a boat over to Normandy. And my dad's. My grandfather's entry is something to the effect of.

• 2:49:43Speaker 01

  We're going to this, we're storming this beach today. Like they didn't, I don't think he knew. The like what the the levity or the seriousness of what was happening. I think they were like. Like he just very casually mentioned it.

• 2:49:55Joe Rogan?

  Oh, God.

• 2:49:56Speaker 01

  And the only other thing I remember out of reading that diary was that he would. He would get water in his helmet to so cold. He'd get water in his helmet to shave. And by the time he went to shave, he had to break the it would freeze over with ice. He had to break it with his razor. But to think that the. I mean, just the amount of trauma that those guys went through and no one really cared about it. They were like, just have a. Have a fucking shot of scotch.

• 2:50:19Joe Rogan?

  And that was the second time the world had gone to war. The world had gone to war just a couple of decades earlier.

• 2:50:27Speaker 01

  Dude, can I tell you what fucking makes me like makes me stop for a second? When we were in Serbia. They have statues of Gabriel Pritzip everywhere. He's the guy that shot Franz Franz Ferdinand, the Archduke.

• 2:50:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:50:40Speaker 01

  They have statues of him everywhere. He's a fucking national hero in Serbia because he technically created Yugoslavia. I mean, people have they wear shirts of Gabriel Pritzip. They have wallets of this guy.

• 2:50:53Joe Rogan?

  Who started World War One.

• 2:50:54Speaker 01

  He started, he changed the world forever. That one man is responsible for millions of deaths.

• 2:51:02Speaker 01

  And so much suffering.

• 2:51:04Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that crazy? And they have statues of this dude.

• 2:51:07Speaker 01

  Statues everywhere. Dude, some guy, I got obsessed with it. Cause I was like, I can't believe you guys. Like, we call, we consider that a terrorist in our country.

• 2:51:14Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god.

• 2:51:15Speaker 01

  And this one guy gave me a.

• 2:51:16Joe Rogan?

  That's so crazy.

• 2:51:17Speaker 01

  They gave me a.

• 2:51:18Joe Rogan?

  Look at that writing. How cool is their writing? Go back to that. Look at the fucking writing at the bottom. Look how cool that is.

• 2:51:24Speaker 01

  Cabrielo princip.

• 2:51:26Joe Rogan?

  Can you read that?

• 2:51:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:51:27Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:51:28Speaker 01

  I think it's Russian. It's acrylic or whatever it is. Cyrillic.

• 2:51:31Joe Rogan?

  You can read that?

• 2:51:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:51:33Joe Rogan?

  For real? You can read Russian?

• 2:51:34Speaker 01

  Yeah. I never told you about the time I went to Russia?

• 2:51:36Joe Rogan?

  You did, but I didn't know you could learn. I didn't know you learned how to read it. I thought it was really hard to read.

• 2:51:41Speaker 01

  I just met this DJ, very big DJ, DJ Zed. He's, if I played you any of his songs, you've heard every one of them, right?

• 2:51:48Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:51:49Speaker 01

  And we met him at, I was with Santino. We were at a tennis tournament. And I said, wait, where's your accent from? And he goes, oh, I'm Russian. I said, good day. And he goes, te cabalizpajuske la zik. I was like, konyeshto. And we started talking in Russian back and forth.

• 2:52:00Joe Rogan?

  How long did it take you to learn that?

• 2:52:02Speaker 01

  As long as I was there. I got pretty good towards the end.

• 2:52:04Joe Rogan?

  How long were you there for?

• 2:52:05Speaker 01

  Like, month and a half, three months.

• 2:52:07Joe Rogan?

  That's it?

• 2:52:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:52:08Joe Rogan?

  That's incredible.

• 2:52:09Speaker 01

  Two months, maybe?

• 2:52:09Joe Rogan?

  Do you have a hidden skill?

• 2:52:10Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 2:52:11Joe Rogan?

  A hidden ability to, like, learn languages?

• 2:52:13Speaker 01

  No, I don't. I can speak Spanish. I just told you, the same, the same Uber drivers picked me up six times in this town. He doesn't speak English.

• 2:52:21Joe Rogan?

  How'd you learn how to speak Spanish?

• 2:52:22Speaker 01

  I just grew up in Florida.

• 2:52:23Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:52:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:52:24Joe Rogan?

  You might have, like, a secret language ability.

• 2:52:26Speaker 01

  No. Anyone that just heard me talk in Russian just knows that I barely can, I don't even sound good.

• 2:52:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but you could say, I took Italian in college. I can't fucking speak Italian. I took Spanish in high school. I can't speak Spanish.

• 2:52:39Speaker 01

  No, I, yeah, I can understand Russian a lot better than I can speak it.

• 2:52:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you might have, like, a hidden ability to learn languages.

• 2:52:45Speaker 01

  And I can understand Spanish a lot better than I can speak it. But like, I was just in Spain. I was just in Spain a week ago. And apparently, my Spanish, it sounds like, me need ice.

• 2:52:56Joe Rogan?

  Eh.

• 2:52:56Speaker 01

  Me ice.

• 2:52:57Joe Rogan?

  At least you can say something.

• 2:52:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:52:59Joe Rogan?

  You can communicate. Something's popping off in Serbia right now. Like, one of the largest protests ever is happening in Serbia right now.

• 2:53:07Speaker 01

  For real?

• 2:53:07Joe Rogan?

  There was 300-plus thousand people in the streets.

• 2:53:11Speaker 01

  It's a complicated country, and I love Serbia. I love Serbia.

• 2:53:15Joe Rogan?

  I don't know what's going on. I have no idea what this protest is about. I just saw it in the news feed, popped up. Record-sized protest in Serbia.

• 2:53:22Speaker 03

  So, we're 15 people dying in a railway, excuse me, railway station collapse.

• 2:53:27Joe Rogan?

  So what are they, what are they?

• 2:53:29Speaker 01

  It's hundreds of thousands of people descended on Serbia's capital to protest over the deaths. I'm not sure.

• 2:53:35Joe Rogan?

  Huh.

• 2:53:37Joe Rogan?

  So was it like some corruption or something like someone shitty construction like what happened?

• 2:53:42Speaker 01

  We quote, "We just want a country that works," Lawston says.

• 2:53:45Joe Rogan?

  Wow. So hundreds of thousands of people in the, in the streets because a rail station collapsed?

• 2:53:51Speaker 01

  That's what it says on BBC. I'm looking to see if it make more insight.

• 2:53:56Joe Rogan?

  They don't take any shit over there.

• 2:53:58Speaker 01

  Dude.

• 2:53:58Joe Rogan?

  Figure it out bitch.

• 2:54:00Speaker 01

  They uh.

• 2:54:00Joe Rogan?

  We'll get in the street.

• 2:54:01Speaker 01

  It's fascinating. They, I mean, listen, I understand if you're Serbian, you're listening. You may disagree with what I'm about to say. I'm just gonna say it. They fucking hate Albanians.

• 2:54:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh no.

• 2:54:12Speaker 01

  They make Albanian jokes like crazy, right?

• 2:54:14Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:54:15Speaker 01

  So one day we're on the set and I said, one of the guys, I go, hey man, like, I'm, I'm not like a woke dude. It's a funny joke, uh, but like, what if there's an Albanian here that like heard that? Wouldn't, and hurt their feelings? And he goes, oh, he'd know to be smart enough to keep his fucking mouth shut. And I went, alright, never mind. The only Albanian they like is, uh, Dua Lipa. They love Dua Lipa. They, I know I'm generalizing and I know there's Serbians that are like, we don't hate them all, but they all know how to play basketball. They're all tough as fucking shit. Every dude's a fucking man. You don't meet one dude that you don't think is a cage fighter.

• 2:54:50Joe Rogan?

  Bro, these war torn countries are not playing games.

• 2:54:53Speaker 01

  Bro?

• 2:54:54Joe Rogan?

  They, they breed different humans. And that's why when those guys come over to the UFC, like they're, they're different humans.

• 2:55:00Speaker 01

  They had, they had a, and now mind you, I gotta guess the Serbians that I was hanging out with. And one of them is my driver, but like they had a chant for their president, for the, like when their president, they would chant out the other guy and it was like, uh, "Is Vannici, he's a faggot." "Is Vannici."

• 2:55:18Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ.

• 2:55:19Speaker 01

  Such a fucking, I just, I don't know, man, there's something, there's something really interesting about that freedom that they had there, that they just talked openly. And like, they'd take a cigarette break and like the girls would sit down and cuddle up next to a dude that they weren't dating. They're just touchy like that. Like they don't have like, there's no like intimacy counselor on set. They were just, I remember watching one of the girls sit and have a cigarette with one of the dudes and they were like just cuddling against the wall. And I was like, are they dating? And they're like, no, they're just friends.

• 2:55:49Joe Rogan?

  Look at that shit.

• 2:55:54Speaker 01

  That's Serbian basketball, baby.

• 2:55:56Joe Rogan?

  Bro, that's war. That's war.

• 2:56:01Joe Rogan?

  How long before these guys take over basketball?

• 2:56:04Speaker 01

  Oh, buddy.

• 2:56:04Joe Rogan?

  Kind of half.

• 2:56:05Speaker 01

  Give them another year.

• 2:56:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they kind of have. Yeah, they're taking over MMA, they're taking over boxing. Luka Doncic and Jokic.

• 2:56:11Speaker 01

  Dude, everyone plays basketball. The girls play basketball there.

• 2:56:16Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ.

• 2:56:17Speaker 01

  No one jogs. I was the only one jogging, every morning. Every morning I jogged by myself.

• 2:56:24Joe Rogan?

  They're fucking farmers carrying weights around.

• 2:56:27Speaker 01

  They're fucking, they're, those men are beasts. I'd go to the mall, it was like the nicest place to go.

• 2:56:33Joe Rogan?

  Bro, that was the most terrifying basketball game I've ever seen in my life. If I was, imagine like showing an American basketball crowd what they do in Serbia, you'd be like, oh no, they're coming.

• 2:56:43Speaker 01

  Wouldn't it be great to watch a Serbian team play like one of those inner-city teams?

• 2:56:48Joe Rogan?

  Look at this. Give me some volume.

• 2:57:00Speaker 01

  Look at that, look at that.

• 2:57:06Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit. That kind of, that's like Fight Night intensity.

• 2:57:11Speaker 01

  That's, that's Texas fucking high school football.

• 2:57:13Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right.

• 2:57:14Speaker 01

  We used to play, we used to play a black team growing up, I was like Booker T. Washington, and you would, you would, they would come in, we'd play basketball, and the visiting stands would be packed. I can't remember the exact name of the team, but they'd be packed, and their thing was, boom, we thump, boom, boom, we thump, and the whole fucking crowd, and we were like just a bunch of white kids, we had no chance. We had no chance. I've got spirit, yes I do, I've got spirit, how about you? And they'd be like, suck our dicks. With that energy, that high school black inner-city energy with some HBCU cheerleaders, you ever seen the HBCU cheerleaders?

• 2:57:49Joe Rogan?

  Yes, I have.

• 2:57:50Speaker 01

  They're my fucking favorite. Versus a Serbian, just fucking no deodorant, just.

• 2:57:58Speaker 01

  God, man, I miss Serbia.

• 2:58:01Joe Rogan?

  When those folks start entering into other sports, when people from like hard environments start entering sport, like the scariest guy in the UFC, or one of the scariest, is uh, from Chechnya.

• 2:58:13Speaker 01

  Chechnya?

• 2:58:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:58:14Speaker 01

  That's, that's, that's war torn.

• 2:58:16Joe Rogan?

  Dude, this, this guy is a fucking, Hamzat Chimaev, he is a fucking animal. Have you ever seen that guy fight?

• 2:58:25Speaker 01

  Hamzat, no.

• 2:58:25Joe Rogan?

  Hamzat Chimaev, pull up Hamzat Chimaev versus Kevin Holland. So Hamzat, Hamzat Chimaev is the number one contender in the UFC's uh, middleweight division. He's a fucking monster. And he's so aggressive, like relentlessly aggressive. He's known to get in fights like backstage and just, an animal. And like, in post-fight interviews, like, "I fucking killed them all, I killed them all."

• 2:58:50Speaker 01

  Wait, did I just watch him drop weight today?

• 2:58:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you might have.

• 2:58:54Speaker 01

  Where they shaved his head, they shaved his head to drop weight?

• 2:58:56Joe Rogan?

  No, I don't think so, maybe, I don't think so. But he just run, go from the, right from the beginning, because the very, this is the beginning of the fight. Watch how he storms at him.

• 2:59:10Speaker 01

  Wow, bro.

• 2:59:12Joe Rogan?

  The amount of fucking grappling power you have to have to ragdoll Kevin Holland like this is insane. Kevin Holland is a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt under Travis Luder. I mean, he's a legit grappler, that's why he's surviving and he scrambles, is cuz he's a legit black belt.

• 2:59:30Speaker 01

  What's he saying to him?

• 2:59:31Joe Rogan?

  They're talking shit, Kevin likes to talk shit.

• 2:59:33Speaker 01

  Where's a lip reader when you need one?

• 2:59:36Joe Rogan?

  I think Kevin's probably like, "Come on, man, I thought we were gonna stand up, why don't we fight? Why don't we fight in the feet?" He's probably trying to goad him into doing something stupid.

• 2:59:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:59:44Joe Rogan?

  Kevin talks shit while you're hitting him.

• 2:59:48Joe Rogan?

  I mean, this is crazy grappling ability. The way he rotates with him, and here it is, here's the darts. So he sinks up the choke, and slides through, watch his right hand, his right hand's gonna reach forward and grab a hold of his bicep. Watch how, this is when he sends, see, see it slides down?

• 3:00:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:00:05Joe Rogan?

  When you, when the right hand, right now it's still open, but when the right, now it clamps, now it's on the bicep.

• 3:00:09Speaker 01

  Oh wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:00:11Joe Rogan?

  That's the choke, the choke's fully locked in now, and Kevin's fucked.

• 3:00:14Speaker 01

  God damn.

• 3:00:14Joe Rogan?

  He's totally fucked, and he's gonna have to tap, and he eventually taps, but I mean, to tap a guy like Kevin Holland, and not just tap him, but just, he has no chance at any moment in the fight, it's just total grappling dominance.

• 3:00:28Speaker 01

  Look at that.

• 3:00:30Joe Rogan?

  He's a monster, just a fucking monster and like the most aggressive guy in the fucking sport. Like right away charges and this is it, this is the end. Once he taps it.

• 3:00:41Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 3:00:42Joe Rogan?

  He get, once he gets that leg over the top of the body, so he isolates the body and constricts deeper into the choke, he's stunned.

• 3:00:48Speaker 01

  Dude, I got choked, I got choked out by my daughter Isla.

• 3:00:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh no.

• 3:00:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, we were on vacation.

• 3:00:53Joe Rogan?

  Were you trying not to get choked out?

• 3:00:54Speaker 01

  No, she's, she's a girl, so I thought, she's talking shit, Eddie Bravo's, Eddie Bravo's got her private jujitsu lessons. So she's been taking jujitsu in her fucking gym. And she's, you know, she's dyslexic, so she every, she can never tell you the right move she's about to do. And we're on vacation and she goes, she goes, it'll be easy, you have to slow down there, big guy, I'll choke you out. And I was like, oh, you're gonna choke me out? She goes, she goes, it's easier to choke out big guys. And I went, really? She goes, I find it easier. And I was like, okay. I was like, try to choke me out, Joe? This little needle arm went around my neck and I swear to god, was she like 15 at the time? I just went, I tapped. She's like, yeah, that's what I thought. I was like, my daughter.

• 3:01:37Joe Rogan?

  That's what I thought she said. That's what I thought. Disrespect.

• 3:01:41Speaker 01

  She did, she, she met Eddie Bravo, she met Eddie Bravo at our house one night and you know, Eddie, me, Sam Tripoli, Eddie and I are lit, right? And we're in the kitchen, we'd just done like a podcast and Isla comes in, she's like, who's this guy? And I go, this is Eddie Bravo. She goes, okay. And I was like, he teaches jujitsu. She goes, I wanna learn jujitsu. And Eddie goes, really? And she goes, yeah, a little bit of that. And Eddie goes, that's not jujitsu. She goes, whatever it is, I wanna learn it. So he goes, alright, I'll set you up. And he got her this, this lady that came over to the house like three times a week.

• 3:02:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh wow, that's amazing.

• 3:02:16Speaker 01

  In the back and Isla loved it. I loved it. Except she turned the, the Nest cam around so we couldn't watch her jujitsu lessons.

• 3:02:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's funny.

• 3:02:24Speaker 01

  She was like, I don't wanna watch you, I don't want you to watch what I do. I just wanna, I wanna learn it.

• 3:02:29Joe Rogan?

  That's cool.

• 3:02:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was really cool.

• 3:02:30Joe Rogan?

  It's a very good thing for women to learn because jujitsu allows you to defend yourself in a way that very few martial arts really do. Because you don't have to rely on the size of your hands hitting people and, you know, and kicking people. It's too hard. It's too hard to knock out a man. Like if you have small hands, if you're a woman, it's just like you can't, just can't generate enough force. For the most part, unless you're like a unusually strong woman. Some women like, you know, you know, like, uh, there's a few. You know, like Holly Holm, like you don't want Holly Holm punching you in the face. Amanda Nunez will knock you out cold, a hundred percent. Even if you're a dude. But most women, they just don't have the power in their hands. But everyone has the power to carry your body around, right? So your legs are really strong. If a woman gets her fucking legs locked around your neck.

• 3:03:13Joe Rogan?

  And gets a triangle on you, you're fucked. If she knows how to do jujitsu, like your legs are carrying. If you weigh a hundred and thirty pounds, you're a woman, your legs are carrying a hundred and thirty pounds all day long. And they don't get tired. And they're strong.

• 3:03:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:03:26Joe Rogan?

  So all you have to do is like, whoop, lock that bitch in behind the knee, crack. And pull on the head and you're going to sleep.

• 3:03:34Speaker 01

  She could have, she could have put me to sleep.

• 3:03:36Joe Rogan?

  I bet she could have.

• 3:03:37Speaker 01

  I've been fucking humiliating.

• 3:03:39Joe Rogan?

  There was a, a, a show that they used to have on Showtime. With this dude who was, uh, he was a porn star and he had a show on Showtime. And, uh, he had like a reality show. And in one of the episodes, he was gonna do jujitsu with a woman. And so my friend Felicia, Felicia Oh, who's a black belt under Jean Jacques Machado, she's a legit beast. And, you know, she weighs a hundred and thirty pounds, maybe, maybe one thirty-five, maybe. And she choked the fuck out of this dude like multiple times. I don't even think she was a black belt at the time. She was probably a brown belt. Maybe she was a black belt already? She was a black belt before me, but, uh, I used to train with her all the time. She's really, really good.

• 3:04:23Joe Rogan?

  And a dude who didn't know what he's doing, he's going night, night.

• 3:04:26Speaker 01

  It's amazing how many dudes don't know what they're doing.

• 3:04:29Joe Rogan?

  Most people don't.

• 3:04:29Speaker 01

  Most people.

• 3:04:30Joe Rogan?

  It's too hard to learn. And you gotta get humiliated when you do learn. You know, you get, you get fucking humiliated. It's, it's, it's a brutal wake up call when you get strangled. Like, and how easy it is for people to do it to you.

• 3:04:43Speaker 01

  You're so vulnerable when you're unconscious.

• 3:04:44Joe Rogan?

  Oh, well, you're just so vulnerable when you do jujitsu against someone who's good at it. I remember the first time I realized I was a white belt and I had rolled with this kid who was a purple belt and he was my size and he just mauled me. And I remember thinking, this is crazy. Like, I can't believe I'm totally helpless. Like I thought I had this delusional idea, like I know how to fight. I'll fucking figure this out. This ain't that big a deal. It's not that much different from Taekwondo or kickboxing, like.

• 3:05:10Joe Rogan?

  Delusional. I got strangled over and over again by everybody, but this one guy in particular, he just was murdering me. And I remember thinking, I gotta learn this. Like, this is like really important to know. Like, I didn't know how was that vulnerable.

• 3:05:23Speaker 01

  Have you gotten choked unconscious?

• 3:05:24Joe Rogan?

  No, never unconscious. I always tap.

• 3:05:26Speaker 01

  Oh, that's terrifying. It's terrifying. It's terrifying because you you got that moment where you're like, uh, uh, uh.

• 3:05:34Joe Rogan?

  I definitely sparked out a couple of times where I could see, like, I could see, like, the the door was closing. You have to tap, you have like a second left before you go out, before you tap. And when someone's got like a really good rear naked choke, once it's locked in and they start to chit clap down the pad, like, you gotta fucking tap. You gotta tap. Especially in training, like, it's stupid to not tap because you could really get hurt, especially if you get caught in an arm bar or worse is like a heel hook or a knee bar. Like, you gotta tap immediately. You can't take a chance with ripping your joint apart. It's not worth it.

• 3:06:07Speaker 01

  Fuck that.

• 3:06:08Joe Rogan?

  And I had a lot of injuries from not tapping in time. I had a bad kimura injury on my elbow. My friend Brent caught me in a kimura and I I couldn't believe that he got it. I was like, because I usually get him. I was like, I am gonna get him. And then he got me. I'm like, oh, my God, he got me. This motherfucker got me. And I didn't want to tap. And I was trying to work my way out of it and work my way out of it. And eventually I had a tap. And I was like, oh, I fucked my elbow up. And I couldn't do chin ups for like three months.

• 3:06:31Speaker 01

  Really?

• 3:06:32Joe Rogan?

  It was brutal. It was horrible. Every time I do a chin up, I had agony in my left elbow.

• 3:06:36Speaker 01

  Do you still roll?

• 3:06:37Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 3:06:37Speaker 01

  Is that because you're back?

• 3:06:39Joe Rogan?

  I want I want to again, but uh, just like my, I've had a few aggravating injuries. I had some sciatica a while back, like a real stiffness in the back. But you know what's really changed that a lot is stretching. I've I've spent like an hour and a half every night just stretching.

• 3:06:55Speaker 01

  Really?

• 3:06:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's loosened everything up. And I realized like, sometimes I go too hard and I don't give myself enough recovery. You know, I just I push a little too far. And then I ignore, like, I had this back thing that was bothering me from archery. And I just ignored it. And I, it was just a muscle thing, so I wasn't worried about it.

• 3:07:15Speaker 01

  Wait, where is it? Like, right in the center of your back or the right?

• 3:07:18Joe Rogan?

  No, no, my right, uh, on the side. It's on the side by the hips, so I know.

• 3:07:24Speaker 01

  Oh, lower, lower.

• 3:07:24Joe Rogan?

  Right, so I know, it's, it's not worrying me like a spine thing. A spine thing's worry me.

• 3:07:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:07:29Joe Rogan?

  But this was inflamed and I just kept shooting the bow. I just was like, shut up pussy. And I just, I pushed it to the point where it got kinda chronic. And it bothered me for a while. It's much, much better now. Um, but I'm being real careful to get it to a hundred percent before I think about doing anything. Like, right now, I can kick the bag again. I can do pretty much everything again. But it's one of those things where I'm still getting better.

• 3:07:53Speaker 01

  Sweet. When you say stretching, cause like, I, after we did the, I did so much working out. I had a masseuse come in and like, kinda test my flexibility, so I had some problems in my forearm.

• 3:08:04Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 3:08:04Speaker 01

  And my, oh, my shoulder can't go, like, I can't get it by, past this. And like, this one goes way.

• 3:08:10Joe Rogan?

  Did you have an injury?

• 3:08:11Speaker 01

  I don't know. I have no fucking idea. I think I've, I think it's no recovery and no stretching. I do no stretching.

• 3:08:17Joe Rogan?

  Benchings rough on the elbows, or the shoulders, rather. Bench, benching can get rough, especially if you bench heavy.

• 3:08:22Speaker 01

  Especially when you watch, have you ever seen the dudes snap a fucking?

• 3:08:25Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, I have seen that. Yeah.

• 3:08:27Speaker 01

  That's all I was thinking about.

• 3:08:28Joe Rogan?

  It pops off and then you're fucked.

• 3:08:30Speaker 01

  You know Cody Rhodes?

• 3:08:31Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 3:08:32Speaker 01

  Cody Rhodes is the WWE champion. He's a Dusty Rhodes son.

• 3:08:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 3:08:36Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, I fucking tell him I'm doing the bench press competition. And he goes, oh, I, I tore my peck at 315. And I was like, that's the fucking bet. And he was like, oh, you don't even see it coming. Look at his peck.

• 3:08:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Jesus Christ.

• 3:08:49Speaker 01

  It pop, he goes, it felt like Velcro. You just heard.

• 3:08:52Joe Rogan?

  And he wrestled even though his peck was torn?

• 3:08:54Speaker 01

  He wrestled with a torn peck.

• 3:08:56Joe Rogan?

  What a fucking animal.

• 3:08:58Speaker 01

  He is a beast.

• 3:09:00Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ, that's crazy.

• 3:09:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, he did, uh, we did Go Big Show together. His dad was the best.

• 3:09:06Joe Rogan?

  Hell in a cell with a torn peck. These guys are animals.

• 3:09:10Speaker 01

  Dude, well, you know, it's when you're young.

• 3:09:11Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's also like wrestling. It's like the culture, the pro wrestling culture, the culture is like you're gonna get battered. Like, we're battering each other. It's just what it is.

• 3:09:18Speaker 01

  More so in the past. Those guys really got fucked up.

• 3:09:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, dude. You know, I've had a bunch of those guys in here. They tell me the stories, you know, Hulk Hogan and fucking Jake the Snake. Like, all, all these, you guys are animals. Undertaker.

• 3:09:32Speaker 01

  And they all drank six packs after the show. Everyone was snorting coke.

• 3:09:36Joe Rogan?

  They were going from town to town, beating the fuck out of each other.

• 3:09:39Speaker 01

  How, how, how much better do you think, uh, uh, anabolic steroids are than testosterone?

• 3:09:47Joe Rogan?

  For, as far as like putting weight on and mass, way better.

• 3:09:49Speaker 01

  Is it so much more noticeable?

• 3:09:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. It's, it's completely cheating.

• 3:09:53Speaker 01

  Have you ever done an anabolic steroid?

• 3:09:54Joe Rogan?

  Nothing serious. I've never done anything serious. I tried Anavar once, and I've done like some minor stuff. There was some stuff that I got that you used to be able to buy at the store. You used to be able to buy it from GNC, like a vitamin store, and they eventually pulled it off the market. I forget what it was called. I forget what it's called, but it was pills. And holy shit, did this work. It was like legit steroids that you could buy at GNC.

• 3:10:20Speaker 01

  When, when I was in college, you could buy GHB at GNC.

• 3:10:23Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 3:10:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz you'd, you would take a little capful before you went to sleep, and it would burn fat while you slept.

• 3:10:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, apparently, I was reading about this, this conspiracy about GHB and about how safe GHB is in small doses, and how good it is for you with sleep and recovery. But the problem is, people would dump it in people's drinks. And then it was like a date rape drug. Cuz you just get, if you have a lot of it, you're out of it. You don't know what the fuck is going on. And so then it became the date rape drug, and then it just got pulled from the market, or at least very difficult to get. But yeah, I remember during the, those days, when it was out, like, bodybuilders would always talk about it. They were all taking GHB before they go to sleep. And it like has some, what is, like, Google what the conspiracy is about GHB,

• 3:11:11Joe Rogan?

  but it has some profound effects on recovery, like puts you in deep sleep. And apparently, at the right doses, it's very safe.

• 3:11:18Speaker 01

  Really?

• 3:11:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. This, this doctor is explaining, like, what had led to it being demonized and like, but what the, the actual benefits of GHB are.

• 3:11:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, I remember taking it in college.

• 3:11:31Joe Rogan?

  You took it?

• 3:11:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, to party.

• 3:11:35Speaker 01

  First time I ever took it was on a rock in Greece, in the middle of the ocean, a rock in the middle of the ocean.

• 3:11:40Joe Rogan?

  You're the problem.

• 3:11:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:11:41Joe Rogan?

  People like you.

• 3:11:42Speaker 01

  Well, it was funny shit.

• 3:11:44Joe Rogan?

  What's it do for you?

• 3:11:45Speaker 01

  Guy's like, he's like, "Hey mate, want a little liquid ecstasy?" And I was like, "Sure."

• 3:11:49Joe Rogan?

  Liquid ecstasy?

• 3:11:50Speaker 01

  That's what he called it. And I found out later it was GHB, but we, he had like a little dropper, a capful. We all took a sip and all of a sudden you start blowing up a little bit. He used to do that and there were like these other, these, the store pills that you'd get. You took enough of those, you'd fucking feel it.

• 3:12:06Joe Rogan?

  Do you remember when they used to sell Salvia? They used to sell Salvia in like a head shop, or they'd sell bongs.

• 3:12:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:12:13Joe Rogan?

  Salvia was like a super potent psychedelic.

• 3:12:17Speaker 01

  Oh, I still have nightmares of Ari's Salvia trip.

• 3:12:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh my God, we played it on the podcast for him and he explained it to us, that he had a whole life under the sea. He had a whole relationship under the, I think he went to another dimension. That's what I think. He said he was there for months, had a whole life. GHB's mechanism of action has not been elucidated. It crosses the blood-brain barrier where it interferes with dopamine levels in a complex, dose-dependent way. GHB's relief of the symptoms of narcolepsy is believed to be mediated via these dopamogenic, min- min- minergic, dopaminergic effects. GHB facilitates deep, slow wave sleep during which growth hormone release naturally increases.

• 3:13:01Joe Rogan?

  This may explain why higher levels of growth hormone have been detected after GHB administration. Yeah, that's why the bodybuilders would take it. There's a lot, well this, you know, this is Derek from More Plates More Dates was on the podcast and he was explaining how making steroids illegal, when they did that, they've stopped all the research and development that could have made those things very safe.

• 3:13:27Joe Rogan?

  So because they stopped doing any studies on them and they made them a banned substance, then everyone's just reliant upon the ones that are already in existence and no new ones have been developed. So all the steroids that people are taking are all steroids that have been developed a long, long time ago. And he said it stifled the innovation and the ability to make better, safer ones. That, you know, the problem is the idea of cheating in athletics, right? And it is a real problem, you know, if someone is taking steroids, they have an advantage over people who don't take steroids. But if they could figure out a way to make them safe or it didn't completely fuck up your endocrine system,

• 3:14:05Joe Rogan?

  there should be an argument where if it makes you perform better but doesn't have a detrimental effect on you, then athletes should take it.

• 3:14:13Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 3:14:13Joe Rogan?

  But people don't like that idea because they don't want someone to have some massive advantage in any sort of a sport.

• 3:14:20Speaker 01

  It also goes into like society, the demonizing of anyone on a semi-glutide.

• 3:14:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:14:26Speaker 01

  I mean, people go, I mean, people get shit on, like, like I joke that Tom's on Ozempic all the time. I think he is, but whatever.

• 3:14:36Joe Rogan?

  You do think he is?

• 3:14:36Speaker 01

  Oh, fuck yeah.

• 3:14:37Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 3:14:38Speaker 01

  When did Tom, when, when have we ever known Tom to put in the hard work to lose the weight?

• 3:14:41Joe Rogan?

  But he's been really disciplined.

• 3:14:42Speaker 01

  Or is he going, anyway, no, I'm joking.

• 3:14:45Joe Rogan?

  No, you're fucking around, right?

• 3:14:45Speaker 01

  I'm fucking around a little bit.

• 3:14:46Joe Rogan?

  A little bit, but not really.

• 3:14:47Speaker 01

  Not really, not really.

• 3:14:48Joe Rogan?

  You might think he would do it and not tell you.

• 3:14:49Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 3:14:50Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 3:14:50Speaker 01

  I don't know, his wife was on it.

• 3:14:52Joe Rogan?

  Interesting.

• 3:14:52Speaker 01

  She got sick on it.

• 3:14:54Joe Rogan?

  So did Brian Simpson. Brian Simpson got real sick.

• 3:14:56Speaker 01

  So did Bobby Lee. Did you see Bobby Lee threw up on a video? It's fucking hysterical.

• 3:15:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, folks, just carnivore diet. Just eat meat and eggs and you'll lose weight. I guarantee you, you will. You'll feel great, too.

• 3:15:08Speaker 01

  But it is crazy how people, he was, this is when he was on Ozempic and they were trying to shoot a promo, and he kept going, Santino, I don't feel good. And he's like, shut up, Bobby, let's just get it.

• 3:15:16Joe Rogan?

  So does he actually puke? Oh, oh, boy!

• 3:15:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 3:15:24Speaker 01

  Now I'm gagging.

• 3:15:27Joe Rogan?

  Alright, Bert Kreischer, let's wrap this bitch up.

• 3:15:29Speaker 01

  Joe.

• 3:15:29Joe Rogan?

  I love you to death.

• 3:15:30Speaker 01

  I love you to death, man.

• 3:15:31Joe Rogan?

  Hey, uh... Looking forward to hanging out with you while you're here.

• 3:15:33Speaker 01

  Permission to Party World Tour starts October 18th.

• 3:15:35Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 3:15:36Speaker 01

  I'm in Vegas this weekend. More importantly, my special Lucky...

• 3:15:38Joe Rogan?

  Lucky, available right now.

• 3:15:39Speaker 01

  Streaming right now on Netflix. I hope you guys like it.

• 3:15:42Joe Rogan?

  I like your shirt.

• 3:15:42Speaker 01

  Shirt matching pants.

• 3:15:44Joe Rogan?

  Very Pablo Escobar of you.

• 3:15:45Speaker 01

  Shirt and matching pants.

• 3:15:46Joe Rogan?

  Nice.

• 3:15:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, I really stepped it up a bit, Joe.

• 3:15:48Joe Rogan?

  I like it. I like the look. Alright, brother.

• 3:15:50Speaker 01

  Love you to death, buddy.

• 3:15:51Joe Rogan?

  I love you to death.

• 3:15:51Speaker 01

  Bye.

• 3:15:52Joe Rogan?

  Bye, buddy.