The Rising Tension: War, Protest, and Culture Shifts in America and Abroad | Tom Bilyeu Show

Welcome to the Tom Bilyeu Show, where we tackle the headlines others shy away from and dig deep into the forces shaping our world today. In this episode, I’m joined by Drew as we break down an avalanche of provocative stories: Trump making audacious moves on the global stage—from promising a fast and furious end to Hamas, to waging war on Mexican drug cartels, and even labeling domestic opponents like BLM and Antifa as terrorist organizations. Across the globe, Japan ushers in its first female prime minister, who immediately turns her gaze toward mass deportation of illegal immigrants, while Ireland erupts in outrage over a shocking crime tied to migration. We don’t just report the headlines—we dissect the strategy, the mindset, and the ripple effects. How does the carrot-and-stick approach play out in today’s volatile climate? What happens when executive powers override due process? Where do we draw the line between keeping America safe and giving one side too much unchecked authority? We dive into the anxiety fueling populism, the real stakes in proxy wars with China, and the unintended consequences of political tribalism. And of course, we take a turn into the unexpected: Palmer Luckey, the billionaire innovator, drops some wild health advice that will make you question everything you know about fitness and vices. The Tom Bilyeu Show isn’t here to give you the simple answers—we’re searching for truth, exposing blindspots, and inviting skepticism. If you’re ready for a conversation that challenges conventions—from conspiracies and mass protests to questions about power and narrative—let’s dive in. What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here: If you want my help... STARTING a business:join me here at ZERO TO FOUNDER https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show: https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show SCALING a business:see if you qualify here. https://tombilyeu.com/call: https://tombilyeu.com/call Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox:sign up here. https://tombilyeu.com/: https://tombilyeu.com/ ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast,Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook https://open.spotify.com/show/47VE90Cittmo6TGGFqg2xf —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok:https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter:https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Linkedin: Post your job free at https://linkedin.com/impacttheory Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://shopify.com/impact True Classic: Upgrade your wardrobe at https://trueclassic.com/impact Cape: 33% off with code IMPACT33 at https://cape.co/impact Incogni: Free 30 day trial and 60% off annual plan at https://incogni.com/IMPACT AirDoctor: Up to $300 off with code IMPACT at https://airdoctorpro.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices https://megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 1:25Tom Bilyeu?

  Japan elects their first female prime minister, and she promptly sets about deporting all illegals. Ireland is literally on fire over the alleged rape of a 10-year-old by a migrant. And billionaire Palmer Lucky has some wild health advice that you've got to hear to believe.

• 1:42Speaker 01

  I feel like it's Trump beat everybody because I blink and there's a new terrorist group. I blink, we just bombed another South American country. I'm like, I like merengue, I like salsa. I don't got no beef with South America. Why are we out here so hard? But everybody could get it. Argentinean, we buying their beef, and now we got beef internally. It's, it's, there's a lot of, we're fighting a lot of wars on a lot of different fronts.

• 2:03Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, it's interesting. So, reading all of this, I will admit that the first year I was in was like, hmm, this is our peace president. That's sort of the initial headline reaction, but I think the, listen, I don't think Trump navigates these things perfectly well. I want to be very clear about that, but I do think that what you're witnessing is a very imperfect person who understands both sides of the leverage coin, which is the carrot and the stick. What you see going on with Argentina is very much all carrot. So I think he shares a value set with Malay and wants to make sure that they can point to them as a success story of prudent economic principles of capitalism, like all of that. They want to be able to say, see, look, for a hundred years, these

• 2:48Tom Bilyeu?

  guys tried socialist experiment. It didn't work, which it really didn't. That's just objectively provably true. And now the question is going to be Malay called a shot. So we're going to do all these things. Seemed like he was having a good run and then something happened. I haven't looked closely enough at the situation to know exactly what broke. But Trump is in there really trying to help make sure that they get to the other side of it. But all of these things are trade offs. And so of course, his base is like, hold on a second. Like, are we America first or not? So anyway, you put all this together. He knows carrot. He knows stick. In some places, he's obviously very willing to use the stick all across South America. I think you were saying that someone in chat was saying,

• 3:30Tom Bilyeu?

  forgive me for not knowing the names, but they were pointing out that a lot of what's going on in South America is really a US v China proxy battle. And I think that's a really smart way to read that. I've been doing a lot of research on China's gold corridor. Just wrote a deep dive that touches on this. It wasn't about that specifically, but it touches on that. Coming out on Monday, please, guys, by the way, your embrace of the deep dive format is insane. I cannot be more grateful. So we have the latest one coming out on Monday. And I think that's a really interesting read in terms of what's actually going on with all of our beef with South America. I don't know if that plays so much into the Mexico thing.

• 4:12Speaker 01

  Let's jump into that because that's actually what surprised me is because Trump actually declares we're on the cartel saying, this is a problem. We're going to take it over. And he's even suggested sending armed troops across the border. So this is Fox News when they interviewed him yesterday.

• 4:28Speaker 02

  We're talking about sending military forces to fight against the drug cartels in Latin America. Do you think it's worth sending our forces, our US forces there to take this on?

• 4:40Speaker 02

  Central Latin America.

• 4:41Speaker 03

  Well, Latin America's got a lot of cartels. They've got a lot of drugs flowing. So, you know, we want to protect our country. We have to protect our country. We haven't been doing it for four years. And we love this country like they love their countries. We have to protect our country.

• 4:57Tom Bilyeu?

  The fact that he has this impulse to be very protective of America, to be America first, to want to see us win, to be just hyper focused, not on a global perspective, but on like, okay, my job as the president of the United States is to think about American citizens, to protect our borders, all that. I love that. But when you have, this is the classic case of people just trust themselves too much. When you get into the like, oh, there's a boat off the coast, just like hit it real fast with, you know, a drone strike. That's where I'm like, oh, God, you've really, there's a reason that due process is a thing. There is a reason that the founding fathers were extremely paranoid about any part of

• 5:40Tom Bilyeu?

  government becoming too powerful. And we're living through a period right now where people want the government to be big, for sure. When you hear people talk about how many entitlements they want. When you look at the energy behind Mom Donnie, all of that stuff tells me they want big government on that side. And then you've got another faction that wants to see, because they believe in Trump, they want to see him extend his powers, use more executive orders, go into more countries, boss more people around. And it's like, oh, God, like, this is, this is the very thing that the founders were warning against is, yes, when it's your team, you get very excited. When you believe in the

• 6:23Tom Bilyeu?

  cause, you love to see a good riot. When you don't believe in the cause, now all of a sudden, it's like, hey, what are we doing? This is crazy. This is out of pocket. We got to send in the National Guard. Like, we got to stamp this down. I, I am 100% guilty of that. When I think, yo, we can't let this go, I'm like, send in the National Guard, 100%. But if I think, if Biden had been sending in the National Guard to places where it was something that I didn't agree with, because I Really did not like what Biden was doing, I would have had a stroke. So I get this is why you always want to flip it and look at, okay, my, my team is going to be out of office at some point. And do I want the people that I hate to have this ability?

• 7:06Tom Bilyeu?

  And if you do, great. If it's like, yeah, I've got no beef with that. Cool. Then push for it. If you would not want to see your quote unquote enemy wield that power, you don't want to let that power become standard. And I feel like we're seeing a lot of that right now. You see a lot of the right cheering for this because, well, they like who's in power.

• 7:29Speaker 01

  It's, it's interesting to me though, because I'm trying to find that balance between this is something that we're actually doing to try to keep Americans safe. And this is something that the administration thinks we're doing something to keep the American people safe, but it is kind of like a moving target. So it's, it's almost like right after nine 11, the term terrorist meant no dislike. You can't argue with it. If I say I'm going to get insurgents, yep, Cat Williams has a great joke about that. Like as soon as you say insurgents, it doesn't matter what's the next sentence after that insurgents, cool, do whatever you want to them, kill them. They have no freedom. They have no rights. It's fine because it's insurgents. But I feel like we're kind of getting into that territory by saying, hey, guys, fentanyl, let me do my tariff war. Fentanyl, let me go into Mexico, fentanyl. And as soon as people

• 8:13Speaker 01

  say that one word, it's like, okay, because I said that buzzword, now all accountability is gone, all due process is gone, Congress doesn't have to get involved. I'm going to use my emergency powers. How do we balance that? Because I, there is a crisis. I do care about the people that are overdosing, but at the same time, I don't want to just give, you know, Trump a free pass to go and move as he sees fit.

• 8:32Tom Bilyeu?

  You, you need to, like, even if you're going to move the goalposts on what we're calling due process, you still have to have due process. So right now, if your due process is, I see boat moving, that boat's moving too fast to be anything other than fentanyl, like hit it. That, that's where I'm like, okay, hold on. Like there is an error rate. I don't know what that error rate is, but there certainly is one. And so having the humility to say, is hitting every, like, are we willing to hit, let's say 10% of innocent people to make sure that we catch 100% of the fentanyl coming in via that like means? I would say that that's the wrong answer. So whether, if you're going to say this is a big enough problem that we're willing to just

• 9:17Tom Bilyeu?

  You know, drone strike on site, then put the actual Navy in that area, patrol that, shut it down. I'm not saying don't take the actions, but if we're really saying that it's important enough to just keep drone strike, drone strike, drone strike, then it's important enough to get closer to these boats and find out what's really going on. Because dude, I'm just telling you, the attitude of like, I see this so clearly. I know that we can just kill without getting on that boat, without seeing who's there.

• 9:46Tom Bilyeu?

  That logical fallacy of thinking that you can see things clearly, that you are the one that ought to be able to determine the acceptable cost, that you ought to be able to determine, just, anything can be an emergency. You get into this position where you'll get the, not only do you create a problem in that moment, because there's no way that you're seeing it 100% clearly, but you're also going to just exacerbate the infighting, because now you're taking these more and more extreme steps, which makes the other side feel like they have to take more and more extreme steps. So every time Trump does something, even when I agree with them, if he does it in an extreme way, I'm like, the second that you lose power, they're going to have the equal and opposite reaction, and they're going to start doing

• 10:31Tom Bilyeu?

  things just as aggressive, just as by fiat as you're doing, and it's not necessarily going to be things that the other half of the country agrees with. And the fact that they can't all see that, the fact that they can't recognize that what we need to be doing right now is working together, finding a path to meet each other somewhat in the middle, creating transparency around that. So if you're saying, listen, this is what we want them to agree with, they're not agreeing to it, these are their demands, like what's going on with the government shutdown right now. All right, fair enough. Like if we just can't agree on anything sensible, but at least let me know what we're talking about. Right now, what Trump is doing is just move fast, kill things, and then figure it out later.

• 11:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's interesting too, because this is also starting to break on party lines. Somebody even said it on the chat is that Trump is starting to look like a neocon. He's going after other countries. Some people are saying for resources Venezuela has oil. There's a lot of oil reserves in Latin America. This is now a proxy war versus China. We need to get our hemisphere locked down, just like China has Africa and some other Asian countries locked down. So there's all these new subjective takes. I don't want to be candid so and try to connect dots, but it does seem like it's not what what we're being told is not what's actually true.

• 11:41Tom Bilyeu?

  That's always going to be true. So politicians are always going to spin. You look, when we first started doing the lives, the we made a James Burnham button because I was talking about it endlessly. People really do need to remember the read the book, The Machiavellians by James Burnham. He makes a very clear and cogent case for the fact that by their very nature, politicians and I'll bucket elites in that they are constantly trying to control the narrative. There's a reason for it. There's a very good reason why people want to control the narrative. It allows everybody to share a set of truth. It allows everybody to get on the same page and move together as one unified body,

• 12:23Tom Bilyeu?

  which because we're in a moment right now where we can't do that, hopefully people can see what the value of doing that would be. Historically, that's been a lot easier to maintain. Social media, social media made that effectively impossible. And so now you've got every narrative under the sun. And so the illusion that they create becomes so obvious that in many ways it stops working because everybody knows and feels the well, I'm not being told the truth. And so the problem is once that center of gravity breaks and you no longer have a belief that there are three trusted sources and you know, there's going to be some discrepancy, but it's not going to be wild. We're going to more or less agree. We are way, way, way closer to the middle than we are right now typically. And so it's like, okay, cool.

• 13:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Like I get, I take this issue a little bit differently than you, but we're looking at the same thing. We agree roughly on a set of facts and.

• 13:17Tom Bilyeu?

  As that disappears, you start getting into like conspiracy brain. Where now, because you don't have the, oh, I can believe these trusted sources. It becomes, I can't believe anything anybody tells me, except for whatever person you align with. And so, once you get into that position, you start seeing things that aren't necessarily there. You start adding meaning to dots. The dots are really there, but you start adding meaning and connections to them that aren't real, that aren't true. And so, it, I mean, this is gonna have to play out. Because you can't, at least from where I'm sitting, it would be a far worse disease to clamp down on this from the top down and say, we're going to enforce one conversation,

• 14:02Tom Bilyeu?

  one set of truth, the way that they do in China or Russia. But it is, it has a consequence when people don't trust anything.

• 14:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, and he's getting some pushback, so I want to kind of set up a couple perspectives. So first, this is Rand Paul. He was at, he was on Piers Morgan yesterday, and he kind of came with the opposite take about the Venezuela situation.

• 14:24Speaker 04

  Number one, there is no fentanyl made in Venezuela. Not just a little bit, there's none being made in Venezuela. These are outboard boats that, in order for them to get to Miami, would have to stop and refuel 20 times. They're in all likelihood going to Trinidad and Tobago, which is an island right off of the coast of Venezuela. So there's a lot of reasons to be worried about this. But number one is the broader principle of, when can you kill people indiscriminately? When you were at war. That's why when we declare war, it's supposed to be done by Congress. It's supposed to be thoughtful, it's supposed to be debated, and we're not supposed to do it willy nilly. And then, when you have war, you just kill people in the war zone. And even then, there are rules of engagement.

• 15:04Speaker 04

  But interdicting drugs has always been a criminal activity and a criminal anti-crime sort of activity, where we don't just summarily execute people, we actually present evidence and convict them.

• 15:18Speaker 01

  So is there a difference between how we traditionally approached it to what we're doing now? What do you think is kind of changing the landscape? Why do you think the game plan changed?

• 15:27Tom Bilyeu?

  You're in fight or flight mode as a nation based on economic problems that will not be interpreted as economic, it will be interpreted as political. When people are scared, that's what I mean by fight or flight. When people are scared, they're going to transmute that into anger because anger is far, it feels far better than anxiety or insecurity. Then you need something to aim that anger at. If it doesn't have an anchor, it becomes hard to hold on to. Politicians understand intuitively or expressly that if I can point them at my enemies, then I can get them behind basically whatever it is that I'm trying to accomplish.

• 16:08Tom Bilyeu?

  And so right now, what you see, because we are in a populist moment because of debt and inflation, let's just never lose sight of why we've ended up here. It becomes people have that anxiety, they want to be angry. Politicians give them something to be angry about. And then it's like you just sort of indiscriminately pointed at whatever you want using buzzwords, whether today's buzzword is fentanyl or terrorist or whatever.

• 16:33Tom Bilyeu?

  You use it and you get people all riled up. If you can get people to believe they're the reason that your loved one died or they're the reason that your jobs are going away, they're the reason that you can't make ends meet. We just gotta like get them. Then people are going to be like, yeah, fuck it. I need somewhere to place this anger. I need someone to be angry at because anger feels so good. And that's why we're in the moment that we're in. And the problem is that because so much of what's happening isn't going to solve our problems, you're getting more fear, more anger, and so people start lashing out. Now that also gets all mixed up with the fact that we have more reason to be worried now than we have in a very long time.

• 17:16Tom Bilyeu?

  From the dollar being devalued at just a distressing rate, the rest of the world's starting to make slow, but they're making inroads in terms of getting the dollar to be used and fewer and fewer transactions. When you look at the Number of um central banks around the world that are holding US dollars. It's going down and down and down. So um the US's position in the world is weakening. The US's position as a manufacturer has been obliterated for a very long time. AI is looming on the horizon in a way that is fucking with people. I don't think we're being honest about how anxious people are. Yeah. And that anxiety just sort of sits in the back of the mind.

• 17:56Tom Bilyeu?

  So you put all of that together and you're just getting this accelerating bundle of anxiety constantly being translated into anger at a time where you've got all of that. Plus, you had four years of just wide open borders. And so a lot of the things that people are pointing to are real. You really do have an immigration problem. You really do have a wage stagnation problem. You really do have an inflation problem, even if it's down now. Dude, since nineteen thirteen, the US dollar has lost ninety six percent of its value. And what that means is, back in nineteen thirteen, if if you wanted to buy something

• 18:37Tom Bilyeu?

  that cost a dollar in nineteen thirteen, okay, it cost a dollar, it would cost you thirty dollars today. Think about something that costs you a dollar right now, like a burger, like a cheap burger at McDonald's. I don't even know if they still do the ninety nine cent. Nope, it's three nineteen. Oh, my god. So this is what I'm talking about, dude. I lived off of the ninety nine cent menu uh for a an extended period of time. And that is the like, imagine the ninety the ninety nine cent menu is thirty dollars. That's the difference between then and now. And then if people want to be like, okay, but that's over a hundred years. Bro, in the last five years, you've had twenty five percent inflation alone.

• 19:21Tom Bilyeu?

  So, yeah, people are not um they're not able to track the cause and effect of how we ended up here. And therefore, they will lash out at the the real things, but they'll lash out in disproportion. So instead of saying, I'm gonna be watching Japan very closely. My us assumption about what Japan is gonna do, because they're only at three percent immigrants, is that this is gonna be a nice orderly thing. These are the people that we're gonna get out. We're gonna go just sort of, you know, knock, knock, gotta go. And they're. They'll slowly, over the next, call it five years, just push people out. Now, if they go unhinged, then, okay, I will have been wrong. But my assumption is that, given that they've acted early,

• 20:04Tom Bilyeu?

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• 22:46Tom Bilyeu?

  Thanks for sticking around. Let's get right back into the action.

• 22:50Speaker 01

  On the back of declaring war with the cartels, we're already kind of in this faux war with Venezuela. He also has just signed a domestic order claiming BLM and Antifa as domestic terrorist organizations. So this is from him signing the executive order.

• 23:03Speaker 05

  Countering domestic terrorism and organized political violence. In recent weeks, months, and years, we've seen a tremendous upsurge in some highly visible, but also other acts of domestic terrorism and organized political violence being perpetrated by radical, politically motivated groups all over the country. What this presidential memorandum will do is set off an administration-wide response to that, ranging from the Joint Terrorism Task Forces to other components of the Department of Justice, to the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Treasury. We're looking at interdicting these groups, preventing them from performing acts of violence, and also looking at sources of organization and funding and support that prop them up and allow them to do the acts that they have been doing.

• 23:49Speaker 03

  We're looking at the funders of a lot of these groups and... You know, when you see the signs and they're all beautiful signs made professionally. These aren't your protesters that make the sign in their basement late in the evening because they really believe it. These are anarchists and agitators, professional anarchists and agitators, and they get hired by wealthy people, some of whom I know, I guess, you know, I probably know them. And you wouldn't know it, you're at dinner with them, everything's nice, and then you find out that they funded millions of dollars to these lunatics. Steve, could you say a couple of words?

• 24:22Speaker 06

  Yes, sir. This is a very historic and significant day. This is the first time in American history that there is an all-government effort to dismantle left-wing terrorism, to dismantle Antifa, to dismantle the organizations that have been carrying out these acts of political violence and terrorism. What we have seen, if you look at whether it be going back to the riots, the start of the Black Lives Matter, and all the way through to the Antifa riots, the attacks on ICE officers, the doxing campaigns, and now the political assassinations, these are not lone, isolated events. This is part of an organized campaign of radical left terrorism. It is structured, it is sophisticated, it is well-funded, it is well-planned. There is really no parallel like this, anything to anything else in the country right now.

• 25:06Speaker 01

  What's your initial reaction? Because it seems like he's connecting everything from 2020 to what's going on now with Charlie Kirk kind of being the exclamation point. Do you believe it's like a coordinated effort? Do you think this is just kind of to that point of this is populism, people need a bad guy?

• 25:21Tom Bilyeu?

  I think it's, I think we're going to find out in the fullness of time that it's hyper-coordinated behind the scenes. I've started seeing people putting out economic data on the NGOs and how they're donating money. And those groups, at least at the level that I'm at in my research right now, do seem to be involved in like the No Kings riots, riots, the No Kings marches. So... I will be very surprised if we don't find out that things like the George Soros Open Society Foundation aren't behind a lot of things like this. And there's several billionaires that are playing the game like that. So Mike Benz is the guy to look at for all this NGO stuff. I was blown away. I was literally changed as a human being, watching, researching him for

• 26:06Tom Bilyeu?

  the interview that we did together. I would shout out, I should have memorized the guy's name, but somebody on Twitter with a decent following sent the episode around saying this is one of Mike Benz's best episodes. So yeah, I encourage people to watch it. He is very good at showing the financial breadcrumbs of how these people are donating, what they're going to, how money moves around the NGOs, how this started when the CIA was basically taken before Congress. And they're like, okay, so we're not going to be able to do some of the stuff we were doing before where we get a slush fund and we just go do all this stuff ourselves. So now we're going to get these NGOs to fund it for us. And that was wild

• 26:46Tom Bilyeu?

  because I had always had just a sort of generic belief that NGOs were do-good organizations. And the bad news is, I'm sure, I don't think any of these people think they're doing anything evil. I think that they are like, hey, we've got these companies, we've got a fiduciary responsibility to our shareholders, like, and by the way, we pick up companies that we think are, you know, doing good things in the world, probably being overly generous, but you get the idea. And so they go in, they go into a country and are like, well, if I do this and push on that lever and get to know this person, then we'll be able to corner the market on oil deals with whatever country in question. And that's going to be great for the shareholders that are invested in our fund. And so, great, we made a lot

• 27:30Tom Bilyeu?

  of people, a lot of money. This is wonderful. And my beef is with the lack of transparency, not understanding what they're doing, how much of this they're getting into trying to manipulate society itself. So there was a really interesting video put out about California by a friend of the show, What If Alt Hisst, shout out to our boy Rudyard Lynch. And in the video, he asked the question, like, why don't these billionaires build like public service things like libraries and things like that, like they used to, and this is his quote, in extractive times. And so

• 28:06Tom Bilyeu?

  My answer to that is they don't because they're so busy trying to remake society itself. They all believe that they've got the vision for where this ought to go. And they're willing to put their money into it. And so whether that's George Soros and everything he's doing with Open Society Foundation and getting DAs to be more lenient and all of that, or whether it's what Elon Musk is doing with getting hyper-involved in politics, obviously, buying X and fighting for freedom of speech. It doesn't matter if you agree with them. What matters is this is where they're putting a lot of their time and attention is saying, I have a vision of a better society. I've got the capital to make that real.

• 28:47Tom Bilyeu?

  So instead of making my contribution to the world that I'm just going to go out and build these buildings, which they'd probably get stuck in red tape and morass anyway of trying to get that across the finish line these days. But instead of that, what I want to do is I want to go to the infrastructure of what makes things better, or I want to fix the things that make it worse, or I want to build the things that make it better. And so people are going to disagree with a lot of their assessments, but that's the game that's being played right now.

• 29:19Speaker 01

  It's interesting to me though, because I definitely understand the sentiment behind it, but I do feel like connecting Charlie Kirk's assassination with the No Kings Protest, with Black Lives Matter, with Antifa is kind of lumping everybody on the same side and just calling them all kind of political enemies. And that's a part that I'm a little bit apprehensive about is where it comes down to like, we, like, the left is a domestic terrorist organization versus saying there are domestic terrorist organizations. And I know that designation seems like minute, but this, some people are seeing this as, okay, Trump is just doing, everybody who's not my political ally is now a political enemy and not just an enemy that I'll battle with in Congress on the floor, but a political

• 30:03Speaker 01

  enemy that I'm going to try to have executive orders against and I'm going to take, do justal powers against. And I'm just worried that, again, when the tide goes to the other side, we're going to now say, okay, well, the Proud Boys and everybody who was on January 6th, they're now domestic terrorists and let's go after them. So it kind of seems like. I don't know if this is good because you're calling American people who were just marching 2020 because they were frustrated they were locked in the house and they kept seeing people die. I don't know if they're the same terrorists that we think they are versus the people who are actively causing insurrections, people who are actively doing bombs and Teslas and things like that. I just don't want a broad brush to be painted on everybody that ever protested against Trump, period.

• 30:39Tom Bilyeu?

  I think that's very wise. The question becomes, why is he painting them with that broad brush? I think this will help people understand what Trump is actually doing. From where I'm sitting, Trump has a playbook in his mind, which is, okay, I can do executive orders. I can do emergency powers and then I can get law and order back in place. I think if you try to map him as only a self-serving political animal, he'll confuse you. But if you map him as a self-serving political animal who actually does love America and actually wants law and order, again, you don't need to agree with him on those things. But if you're trying to map his behaviors, if you think of him as somebody who is extremely patriotic, loves America, wants to see America do well, not exclusively, because he is a self-serving politician,

• 31:24Tom Bilyeu?

  narcissist, you know, megalomaniac in some ways. So like, all of that is also true, but he also happens to love his country and he's a big law and order guy. So when he looks out at the world and he sees people being violent, pushing back on things that he likes, now he's like, okay, wait, what was that stack of things that I have again? I have executive orders, okay, I'm gonna do what I can there. Well, I have emergency powers. That'll really let me do some shit. Oh, wait, if I designate these guys as terrorists, then I've got all this stuff that I can do to them, including, because the big scary part in this meeting for me is you will notice going from right to left, you've got J.D. Vance, then Scott Besant, okay?

• 32:08Tom Bilyeu?

  So Scott Besant is very close to President Trump. That is not an accident. This order matters. Everybody's fighting to be the one that's standing right next to the president of this, I assure you. And so the, what Scott Besant said when he came into office was, ooh, I spend most of my time doing economic warfare. Okay, let that sink in. So Trump- It wants to use that same economic warfare against the people that are marching against the things that he likes. So he's like, well, if you look and squint just this way, you can make them terrorists now when they're classified as terrorists. I can do all this other stuff, including economic warfare. So I'm going to go after these people. Now I can't sound a loud enough alarm bell. Even though I am not a fan of Antifa, even though I am not a fan of much of what has come from BLM.

• 32:55Tom Bilyeu?

  Making them terrorists so that you can go, no more bank account for you. That without like due process, I'm all for pursuing these people, build a case against them. If they're doing something illegal that they shouldn't be prosecute every single one of them. But just as, let's say that Letitia James ends up being guilty of everything that she's being accused of. I don't want to see anybody go, well, let's just first label her as a domestic terrorist. And then this gets a lot easier and we'll push her through the system that way. It's like, you've got to do the thing. You've got to go and build a case and prove it because these guns can and will be turned on you at some point. For whatever thing is that we do, that's out of step with the government. And we want the government to be afraid of the people. We do not want the people to be afraid of the government.

• 33:37Tom Bilyeu?

  And so I'm perfectly willing to accept that there's going to be some amount of, yeah, dickheads on the street. Doing things in protest where it breaks violent. And rather than us just categorize everybody as a terrorist to make them easier to shove through the funnel. We're going to go, we have to go on the street. We have to arrest them. We have to build a case against them and then put them in jail. What I don't want to see is we go, pick them up off the street, don't arrest them, or we arrest them, but let them back out. The charges are low. No, no, no, like you, if you're throwing rocks at cops, bro, that, that changes your life. The second that rock leaves your hand, your life is different forever. You are going to jail a hundred percent. So, and that's, I don't care what side of the fence that you're on.

• 34:20Tom Bilyeu?

  So throwing a rock at a cop needs to be a Rubicon. Where yours, because look, I'm a big believer in the second amendment. I am a big believer that, hey, if a government gets tyrannical, you've got to like be prepared to stand up against it. But the reality is just like if you think your wife is acting. outrageous because she's about to be on her period. You better be sure that you're ready to play that card before you do it. Bro, before you say, I'm gonna exert my second amendment rights because I think the government is tyrannical. Before I throw this rock at a cop. Dude, you've got to be like, yes, I'm gonna change my life forever. It's that important to me. And if you fail to push that line that far back.

• 35:05Tom Bilyeu?

  Your life is gonna suck.

• 35:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:07Tom Bilyeu?

  And so, yeah, anyway, the government should not be going so quickly to you're a terrorist. You're a terrorist because then it just looks like the Canadian trucker convoy to me. And that's absurd.

• 35:18Speaker 01

  And I guess that's my worries because we're seeing it already with the Venezuelan boats. Like, oh no, they're drugs. That's cool. Then it's gonna be like, oh, a bunch of these people got arrested. Oh, they're Antifa. It's cool. And we're just kind of now making these designations to just wave people off.

• 35:32Tom Bilyeu?

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• 36:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Thanks for staying tuned. Now, let's get back to it.

• 36:44Speaker 01

  I want to jump over to the Hamas thing that you brought up earlier. Now, it kind of seemed that the tone is changing, not necessarily that he's going to get him, but that he has had other people, other countries, sign up to help out with him. So I guess, I think this is a big win because it alleviates us from getting in another forever war. But also, it just can also show that there is pressure from the surrounding countries to actually clean up the region.

• 37:08Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, if this ends up being true, and by the way, it's Row 7, if it ends up being true, this is historic. If he really has the surrounding Arab nations that are like, "Yeah, we'll put boots on the ground, we're prepared to go in and just absolutely hammer these guys into oblivion", that would be insanely impressive. Now, Trump is known for rhetoric, so he'll say a lot of things that doesn't necessarily come to fruition. But Drew, honestly, if he pulled that off, I would be more impressed that he got Arab nations to put boots on the ground in Gaza than that he got a peace deal between Israel and Hamas. Like, that would be just absolute legendary status.

• 37:50Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, no matter how you shake it or bake it, no matter who the troops are, if you're going door to door with guns, you're back in Iraq.

• 37:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:59Tom Bilyeu?

  This is not gonna go well. This will not be fast. It might be furious, it might be brutal, but it's not gonna be fast.

• 38:05Speaker 01

  Okay, this is the Trump social, the Trump social, it should be Trump social, he owns it. But either way, numerous of our now great allies in the Middle East and areas surrounding the Middle East have explicitly and strongly with great enthusiasm informed me that they would welcome the opportunity at my request to go into Gaza with a heavy force and straighten out Hamas. "If Hamas continues to act badly in violation of their agreement with us, the love and spirit for the Middle East has not been seen like this in a thousand years. It is a beautiful thing to behold. I told these countries in Israel, 'Not yet.' There is still hope that Hamas will do what is right." If they will, if they do not, and enter Hamas will be fast, furious, and brutal. I would like to thank all of those countries that called to help. Also, I would like to thank the great and powerful country of Indonesia

• 38:50Speaker 01

  and its wonderful leader for all the help they have shown and given to the Middle East and to the USA, to everyone. Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump. As a writer, I have to take my hat off to Trump because he has a voice, man. Like, when Trump tweets, he knows a Trump tweet. Like, it's very specific.

• 39:07Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, there's no way around that. Yeah, we'll see what ends up happening here, but I I'm not super high hopes for peace between Israel and Gaza. The this is why culture matters so much. And when your culture is from the time you're a little kid, you're taught they're the enemy. They're the reason things are bad here. We've got to erase them from the map. I mean, that's that's what you grew up believing. That's going to be really hard to turn somebody around. So and when your attempt to turn them around is a whole lot of bombs, that tends also to not work so well. But yeah, this is a when you try to win hearts and minds, it becomes very tough,

• 39:47Tom Bilyeu?

  man. Because if you try to win hearts and minds by giving them your value system, it will not work. So you've got to win hearts and minds by allowing them to have their own value system and making a bridge. Look, oh, God, whenever you're trying to do something, look back in history and say, has anybody done this well before? And if they have, figure out what they've done. Here's the problem. The people that have done it well, Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, they both had the same one-two punch, Drew. And it is, ooh, buddy, that one-two punch is, I will kill every single one of you, man, woman, and child, in the most horrifying, brutal way that you can imagine if you defy me even once. But by the way, if you don't, I'll let you keep all of your traditions. I'll even wear some of your clothes so that you feel

• 40:31Tom Bilyeu?

  recognized. Like, I want you guys to thrive and do well. But did I mention I will literally kill all of you. I don't care age, sex, doesn't matter. I will hack you to pieces in front of your family, one at a time. I will stack your limbs like fucking wood. But hey, I like I like your outfits, you guys. So the same two people that at one point basically were able to conquer the entire world, that was their strategy. So

• 41:04Speaker 01

  You said something, you said something earlier, you were like, if you map Trump as a selfish madman, whatever like that, that's the wrong way to map him, map him as somebody who loves America.

• 41:12Tom Bilyeu?

  As a madman who loves America, just to be very clear.

• 41:14Speaker 01

  No, but I mean like-

• 41:15Tom Bilyeu?

  You've gotta have both.

• 41:16Speaker 01

  I think Putin loves Russia.

• 41:18Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes.

• 41:19Speaker 01

  I think Xi loves China. I think Mao loved China. But-

• 41:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Am I gonna give you Mao?

• 41:25Speaker 01

  No.

• 41:25Tom Bilyeu?

  I'll give you everybody else, yes.

• 41:26Speaker 01

  But I, I do think he loved China, and I think that the greater, that's the thing is like this whole greater good, and if I could just protect my people, it doesn't matter if the other people get like taken out.

• 41:36Tom Bilyeu?

  It's not even quite that, certainly not with Mao. The, the analogy that's just too perfect, but is so oft repeated that people really lose sight of how powerful it is. If you wanna make an omelet, you have to break some eggs. So if you wanna usher in the, the utopia, you, you have to kill tens of millions of people, it just is what it is. It's not that I want to, it's that if you wanna make an omelet, you're gonna have to break some eggs.

• 42:00Speaker 01

  And that was Mao's-

• 42:01Tom Bilyeu?

  That's Mao.

• 42:02Speaker 01

  Got it, okay.

• 42:03Tom Bilyeu?

  So even if you grant that he wasn't, um, essentially Jeffrey Dahmer on steroids, then that's the most you're gonna give him. Now, I need to read, I just found out that he wrote a book on strategy. I knew he wrote a book on, um, like essentially communist philosophies, but I didn't know he wrote one on strategy. So I need to read that, cuz it, it is clear that he was brilliant. Like, I'm not saying this guy was a buffoon, he very much wasn't. But it's just, it is a scale of evil that is so hard for me to wrap my head around. That I probably have done exactly what I warned people not to do with Trump, and just pointed at all of his bad things. But the outcomes from Mao are unbelievable.

• 42:47Tom Bilyeu?

  People, people just do not understand what happened in China in recent memory.

• 42:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. Candace Owens, don't worry about the gag order in the Charlie Kirk case. I plan to violate it on the world's behalf. The things I've discovered this past week has, are enough to burn the house down. Yes, Charlie was betrayed by everyone. Dun dun dun, and then she disappears for two weeks. I love Candace, I'm team Candace, cuz I just feel like we need people to fuck people up. I just feel like, we need anarchy-

• 43:13Tom Bilyeu?

  We need people to fuck people up.

• 43:14Speaker 01

  We just, we need people to keep him on the toes. Like, I need a Candace Owens to exist in life-

• 43:18Tom Bilyeu?

  Got you.

• 43:19Speaker 01

  So that way, other people can't-

• 43:20Tom Bilyeu?

  You're not worried that she's going full conspiracy?

• 43:23Speaker 01

  Um, what is full conspiracy?

• 43:24Tom Bilyeu?

  Let's define it. It's somebody who can no longer, they don't have an internal map for how to judge whether something is plausible or uh merely intriguing. And I think that Candace is seeing patterns where they don't exist. She's so showing signs, I don't think she is schizophrenic, but she's showing signs of paranoid schizophrenia, signs, only signs like, hey, tangential, but like, it's, it's accelerating. And so I don't know if this is um, she's just very good at pattern recognition and she's not keeping it in check. Uh, if in the final analysis, we're gonna be like, oh, my God, Candace was right about everything. That is possible. And I don't want to remove that from the table.

• 44:05Tom Bilyeu?

  But while I watch her, I'm like, okay, there's a big difference for me between somebody like Joe Rogan, who enjoys conspiracies, but feels very tethered to reality. And somebody like Alex Jones, who even though he really does find a lot of this early stuff, it's like the number, if you watch his channel, literally every day is World War III. And everything is a conspiracy, everything. And so I'm starting to now, as I think about categorizing people, Candace has sort of marched her way out of the journalist box that I had her in in my mind, over into the I see patterns where patterns don't exist,

• 44:49Tom Bilyeu?

  conspiracy theory box, where I'm like, uh oh, I worry that she isn't using an internal rubric with which to anchor herself, to say, okay, these things probably aren't true. And we're gonna go through a very substantive portion of the interview between Mario Noffel and uh Stephen Gardner, where they debunk her claims one by one. And look, Stephen Gardner could be wrong as well, but it's, it shows that she can make a wild claim and produce receipts, but then another person can come along with receipts that counter it. And that's why, where I try to put myself when I'm analyzing stuff, and this certainly reflects in how I invest, where it's like, okay, I have a strong belief.

• 45:33Tom Bilyeu?

  But I know better than to trust myself 100%. And so I'm literally trying to hedge my own bets to make sure that I never lose by too much. It also means that I'm going to cap my upside. I'm never going to win by too much. But this is one, let's play a scenario where Michael Saylor, who's making an all in bet on Bitcoin that I consider to be completely irresponsible. Let's roll the tape for it and say he becomes one of the richest or the richest men in the world. I'll never look at that bet and go, that was a quote unquote sensible bet. I'll look at it and say, he was right and he is reaping all of the rewards and he is way,

• 46:18Tom Bilyeu?

  he has way more confidence in himself and his ability to read the situation than I have. And he has got all the, you know, the wealth to show for it. But I'll never think it was sensible because there's just too many things that could go wrong. Humans can misread the situation. The world can change in ways that were fundamentally unpredictable. And so I don't think it's a wise way to live your life. And so there's something called the survivorship bias where, yeah, we're on the timeline where he happened to pull it off. But I'm also on the timeline where my Pomeranian was loose in the Mulholland Hills for 36 hours with coyotes and I still managed to get her back.

• 47:00Tom Bilyeu?

  But I've got to imagine if the multiverse is real, basically every other timeline, she became coyote food. So it would not be sensible for me to say, oh, you can just let your Pomeranian go wandering around the Mulholland Hills for 36 hours and it'll be just fine. They won't be so just.

• 47:15Speaker 01

  As an entrepreneur though.

• 47:16Tom Bilyeu?

  Yep.

• 47:16Speaker 01

  There, there is a benefit to being nonsensible sometimes. Sometimes you gotta roll the dice. Sometimes you have to go against the grain. Sometimes you have to ask questions that shouldn't be asked.

• 47:25Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah. And I would say I totally get like, again, if he pulls it off, you're going to see me laugh, smile, clap. I'll want to get him on the show. I want to like, let him take a victory lap. I'm not going to be throwing stones at him. I'm just saying I, it's not a sensible thing to do. Now you'd have to get me to define. Sensible and that's all my beliefs and all my value system and all of that. So you've got to take that with a grain of salt. But anyway, I've got that internal metric by which I judge things. And so I make my decisions based on that. It feels like Candace has lost that. She doesn't, or maybe never had, but she doesn't have anything that she comes back to and says, like I say, I know better than to trust myself 100%. Just blanket. So I think I have all the receipts.

• 48:09Tom Bilyeu?

  I still don't trust myself 100%. She trusts herself 1,000%. And I cannot figure out how life has taught anybody that that's the right thing to judge things by.

• 48:18Speaker 01

  Just with Alex Jones, like, yes, there's the Alex Jones is right meme. But Sandy Hook got all 1.5 billion and they're going to take the name right to his studio. Like, he still has to kind of deal with him being wrong, being wrong big in that scenario. So by no means if Candace is wrong on all this, I definitely, she deserves her day in court, whatever. If she gets sued, she deserves to pay out. Like, she has to walk the plank if that's what really falls out.

• 48:43Speaker 01

  I am from the, the nil of like, Marisha said in it like, I'm a, the government lies to us. The CIA is destabilizing institutions all around the world. There are so many times where like, a corporation has enlisted the CIA to destabilize something and we'll give you a kickback to the government. Everybody gets paid. So to me, like, there's so much political goodwill that came from Charlie Kirk's death. There's so much political benefits that happen from it. Even if it's 1% of me, I do have a certain level of suspicion to how clean it was. Again, we read the text messages live. Hey, my lover, who is also a trans furry who lived down the street. Like, I'm sorry, my dad, who you know was a Trump supporter. Like, there's certain things that just doesn't necessarily pass the sniff test for me.

• 49:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, they're going to cover that in the video. And he's got a very plausible argument for what that could be and not be tied to the CIA.

• 49:35Speaker 07

  As far as the text messages go. I have mixed feelings about those because I believe that they're real. But I think they also could have been pre-planned in order to make Lance Twig look innocent. Oh, I had no idea that my lover was gonna go kill this guy, you know, like I'm just as shocked as the rest of the world, right? So I believe they're real and the forensic expert I talked to, he said, Steven, most people don't realize this, but Tyler Robinson's cellphone is going to be the second most important piece of evidence next to the gun itself. And I was like, really? And he said, they're going to be able to track whether he went on the week before. They're gonna track every movement.

• 50:10Tom Bilyeu?

  One thing you and I were both like, yo, there is something fishy here, like nobody writes like this. But if you're trying to, like, if you've already talked about it, you know that your boyfriend knows exactly what your plans were, but you need a way, you know, they're gonna look through your phone and you need a way to clear them. Uh, then you might like overstate everything just to make sure that there's no possible lack of clarity. And so that's where you get sort of the ridiculous, like it's extremely detailed saying things that like, obviously that person would know you're talking as if the two of you have no context. I think that's because they know the people reading the text messages won't have any context, or it's at least.

• 50:50Speaker 01

  So he did that to protect his lover.

• 50:51Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, it's a very plausible read that, cause he's like, he goes in Discord and essentially admits to the crime. So it's like, this is not somebody who was like, oh, I'm definitely gonna get away with this. So he turned himself in. So I, yeah, it feels more and more like this was somebody who did it. They were prepared to be a martyr and um, they wanted to make sure that nobody else got in trouble for this. That seems like a very plausible read. I don't know. I haven't seen every conceivable angle, so I'm not gonna say, oh, that's definitely what happened. But that seems very plausible.

• 51:25Speaker 01

  Let's jump over to Japan now where um, the, our original link got a community noted, but there's a new.

• 51:31Tom Bilyeu?

  Really? What's a, oh, cause that, okay, so what you'll notice very quick if you start doing research is she's like the minister of mass immigration or something.

• 51:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:40Tom Bilyeu?

  So she's not the new, uh, what's she called?

• 51:43Speaker 01

  National private minister, yeah.

• 51:44Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah. So it's funny that they, uh, oh, God. That they conflated the two.

• 51:49Speaker 01

  But there is a new policy, the new prime minister immediately created a mass deportation, a ministry of mass deportations.

• 51:56Tom Bilyeu?

  Mass deportation?

• 51:57Speaker 01

  Mass deportation, excuse me. I said mass deportation. And then this is a speech that she-

• 52:01Tom Bilyeu?

  This is the prime minister?

• 52:02Speaker 01

  This is the prime minister, and this is a speech that he said about kind of ruling it out. It's interesting because Japan is going through a population decline, and instead of trying to import replacement people, they would much rather hunker down, but we'll get into that. Let's see what she says first. "As for me, I want to have a calm, mutually considerate relationship with foreigners. How can we live together in such a way? I intend to reconsider it completely. I plan to think about it from zero again, because year after year, the culture between us and everything else is so very different, yet people are being brought in altogether.

• 52:39Speaker 01

  To keep bringing them in, this policy, we must pause and reconsider it. Those who come with economic motives and claim to be refugees,

• 52:49Speaker 01

  such people will be properly sent home. Also, regarding those who overstay illegally, they too will be strictly required to obey the law."

• 53:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, so, it seems pretty straightforward. Now, I don't see malicious intent. She's not saying, you know, "Get the Muslims out here" or anything like that. However, because of the demographics of Japan, is this a surprising turn?

• 53:13Tom Bilyeu?

  No. I mean, it is an absolute tragedy that the birth rates are so low in so many cultures. As somebody who has chosen not to have children, admittedly, I always feel bad about pointing out how important it is for people to have kids, but on balance, if the majority of people aren't having children, you've got a problem. And obviously because it takes two people to make a kid, you need them having more than two kids. So, Japan is really in bad shape from a demographic standpoint, but the reason that I'm a Japanophile is because Japan is different. If Japan were the same, then there would be no draw.

• 53:57Tom Bilyeu?

  And the funny thing is, I really discovered Japan as like an area of super interest very late in my life. I was always intrigued. I admit, the cyberpunk aesthetic has always spoken to me since the 80s, but- Really learning about Japanese storytelling and how potent of a style of storytelling it is. And because they had the nuclear bombs dropped on them twice, they just became such a fascinating culture. Watching them shift from like the ultra hardcore Samurai culture to watching that become the salaryman culture to seeing like how they respond to repression. Dude, it's, I'll try to do a speedrun on Japanese culture. Yeah, my bad. I did practically you right there.

• 54:38Tom Bilyeu?

  So, okay, speedrun on Japanese culture goes something like this. We are a small island nation. We have to get very hardcore. We have a very collectivist mentality, very disciplined, very much like Samurai culture for sure was you were willing to give your life for the person that you worked for. And if you ended up, they died or whatever, you became a run and you had to just like wander around. There's so much honor culture, all of that, like honor means everything. And they then, so they build all that up. The Mongols try to conquer Japan and, and get pushed back twice. They're like the only culture that was like, get the fuck out of here. Mongols rolled over everybody, but not the Japanese. Okay, that's who you're up against. Japan fucked up China. In fact, China now is like, oh bitch, wait till we

• 55:23Tom Bilyeu?

  get big. We are going to mow over you. Rumor, rumor, allegedly, allegedly. But like, that one is, there's a lot of bad blood there. So Japan were like, sort of tyrannical and very good because they were so disciplined, militaristic, like really, really hardcore. And then we dropped some bombs on them. And now it's Hello Kitty. So it's like, what happened? I love these speedruns. This is the only way I want history now.

• 55:55Tom Bilyeu?

  So it is this incredible transformation where you can still feel that really brilliant engineering culture, the collectivist mentality, which I've spoken many times about how much I absolutely despise it. But they also have, like, you can feel the repression like bubbling up and coming out in these really interesting ways. And they're like this fascinating Blending of Buddhism and Christianity now. And so they've just created this really, really fascinating like tech forward. Very futuristic, but the blend of the past and the future. And this sense of like, um, post-apocalyptic because they've really lived through a post-apocalypse like.

• 56:38Tom Bilyeu?

  And the sense that, oh my God, we were the villains in World War Two. But America helped us rebuild. So there like, there's this really interesting relationship that they have with their own past. And but that hardcore culture doesn't just go away. So they created this generation of salary men who basically worked themselves to death, literally to death. And, uh, the hard work culture there went from like these, um, very rigid caste structures into a modern style economy. But because they were so disciplined, so hardworking, literally willing to work themselves to death. They just through the eighties, it looked like they were going to take over the whole world. And that's why if you look at like, um, even movies like Back to the Future two, all the anxiety is around, we all work for the Japanese.

• 57:23Tom Bilyeu?

  This is why in Die Hard, his wife works for a Japanese company. Like it just looked like the Japanese were going to take over everything. Then through some, uh, economic jujitsu, we were like, all right, you guys need to chill. And we sort of have put them in timeout for 40 years. Whole another long story there, but like that is, that is given birth to a style of storytelling. That literally dwarfs the rest of the world. Uh, I, I cannot tell you enough how in America, we think, oh, Marvel. Marvel's the, the comic book that rules the world, right? And then you realize Demon Slayer, which is a single manga title outsells.

• 58:04Tom Bilyeu?

  Every single Western comic title combined. Combined, Drew. In Japan, a single was known as a Tonkabon, which is like a collection of, I forget, it's like six. Uh, standalone episodes of manga. Of a series called Bleach, the Thousand Year War.

• 58:29Tom Bilyeu?

  No, sorry, lie, lie, lie. It was, um.

• 58:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Boruto. Boruto, which is like the successor to Naruto, if people know that one, sold 10 million units. That's insane in physical print. Dude, that's insane. So, and that's in Japan alone. If you go into any airport, you're gonna be able to find manga. It's wild. So, the Japanese have found what all, I did not make up this title, but I think this is really bang on. What's known as illicit storytelling. So, something a kid wants to read, but they don't want their parents to see that they're reading it. And when you like, look at children's entertainment in Japan, it's dope. Like, people getting shot, they're bleeding. It's like, even in One Piece. In One Piece, Luffy D Monkey, this is for kids, okay? In the opening, like, chapter of One Piece,

• 59:19Tom Bilyeu?

  the kid's like nine or 10 years old. To prove that he can be a dope pirate and that he's not afraid, this kid, in a book for kids, a graphical book, stabs himself in the face with a knife. And through the rest of the series, has a big scar on his face, okay? He, they show it. He takes a knife and just stabs himself in the face. Okay, so the Japanese don't play. There, there's this like, fascinating thing that you can feel the repression below the surface and it bubbles up in a way that other people around the world are like, oh my god, there's some truth in this. That even though it's bombastic and over the top and completely outlandish, it speaks to something in people. So, anyway, uh, that difference,

• 1:00:02Tom Bilyeu?

  we all benefit as a society if that difference is preserved. And if that difference, whether it be Italy, China, Japan, Korea, America, England, Saudi Arabia. If those differences aren't preserved, the world becomes way less interesting. And what we're seeing now is people realizing, oh, those differences are born of values. And oftentimes, those values are spread through religion. But some of it's just continuity of what were your parents like, what were their parents like? And so, what we're seeing through mass immigration is the beige-ification of the world. And it sounds good because it sounds tolerant and it sounds welcoming.

• 1:00:46Tom Bilyeu?

  But in the end, it sucks. And it sucks because you don't get different flavors. Everything becomes one flavor. And then, and here's the big thing people don't wanna confront.

• 1:00:59Tom Bilyeu?

  Whoever becomes the most aggressive culture, the most cohesive culture is gonna win. If they have high birth rates, uh, agenda, they know what they're trying to do, then they're just gonna

• 1:01:10Speaker 01

  They'll manipulate the system.

• 1:01:12Tom Bilyeu?

  A hundred percent. And the, right now, the culture that seems to be doing the best at that is Muslim culture. And so it's like, that's why so much of this centers around, okay, wait, are we mad at Muslims? I would say, no, you're not mad at Muslims. What you're mad at is anybody that has a different value system than you, coming in is gonna be a problem. It's just that they actually have a clear agenda and they're not bashful about their faith. They believe in it. This, this is what we believe, and so wherever we go, we are going to proselytize. You will notice there are a lot of Christian countries. Why? Because this is what Christians did back in the day.

• 1:01:53Tom Bilyeu?

  So it's like, hey, this is a tale as old as time. This is not about being Muslim. This is about doing a thing that works. So now we just, we're seeing people go, yeah, I'm not for this.

• 1:02:05Speaker 01

  Speaking of immigration, let's go across the pond. I don't have an Irish accent. Um, uh, O, o, oher, oher.

• 1:02:14Tom Bilyeu?

  This is gonna go bad fast, isn't it?

• 1:02:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is terrible. This is all I got, guys. I'm sorry.

• 1:02:17Tom Bilyeu?

  I don't even know what the hook would be. Like, at least for the Brits, you've got like, uh, top of the morning. And things like, although that sounded more Irish, if I'm completely honest. So.

• 1:02:27Speaker 01

  Yes. Eddie, give me all your, uh, Conor McGregor Irish accents in the chat, please. Um, we're jumping over to Ireland because tensions are rising.

• 1:02:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Yo.

• 1:02:35Speaker 01

  Sizzings are setting stuff ablaze, vehicles are getting overturned, um, after a 10-year-old girl was raped allegedly by an African migrant, but nothing was done. So it's, it's, it's getting like pretty spicy. We have some on the ground commentary, but just initially, we're seeing rocks getting thrown out there. Um, I don't mean to laugh at it. The dumpster thing is hilarious. I don't know if you've seen it at the end of this video. Guys, watch this. Hold on, it's coming, it's coming. This guy was so excited. Hold on, on, it's coming, it's coming. You see that little orange like dumpster thing?

• 1:03:01Tom Bilyeu?

  The funny thing is, I thought maybe there was something incendiary inside of it.

• 1:03:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:04Tom Bilyeu?

  So if I was a cop, I wouldn't find that funny. I was surprised I didn't back away from it.

• 1:03:08Speaker 01

  Like this, this is like, you can say what you want. I feel like this is antagonistic. Like, some of these people need to get locked up. Like, this is kinda crazy.

• 1:03:14Tom Bilyeu?

  If you are throwing things at cops, you are saying, I don't mind my life changing.

• 1:03:20Speaker 01

  And then they just stopped. And he was, he was so mad. He was so mad. He thought he was doing something. But, okay, yeah, what's going on? I understand that there's pushback. But is this the way to solve the immigration problem?

• 1:03:30Tom Bilyeu?

  This is not the way, but thi- this is what is going to happen. So this is one, Drew. I don't know what to do with the fact that humans will not change course until they are suffering so much that you reach this kind of boiling over point. This is when I really do feel like, whether we are programmed in a simulation or not, we act like it. It is the perfect metaphor. And so, all of this is super predictable. You've had plenty of people screaming about this from the tops of the roof. You had, um, why do I always blank on his name? Man, Strange Death of Europe, The Madness of Crowds, uh, Dave Smith is not an expert. Somebody, please.

• 1:04:09Speaker 01

  Uh, Douglas Murray?

• 1:04:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Thank you. Douglas Murray, um, he had, he wrote a book where he was like, "Boys and girls, you will push these people," meaning England, uh, Western Europe, "into a corner and they will eventually respond violently." This was five years ago? Seven years ago? Like, he, it didn't take a genius to figure out.

• 1:04:34Speaker 01

  Pressure cooking.

• 1:04:34Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes. Like, okay. I really think the big problem is that people are super confused

• 1:04:44Tom Bilyeu?

  with racism versus value system problem. If, if I could just get everybody to understand,

• 1:04:52Tom Bilyeu?

  people don't care about sexism. People don't care about racism.

• 1:04:57Tom Bilyeu?

  They just wanna hear people that believe the things that they believe. This is why Japan elected a female prime minister. When you get a female prime minister who's just full gangster and is like, "I want all these people out," then it's like, "Oh yeah, I don't care that it's a woman." I just need somebody that's hardcore. I need somebody that matches my energy. I need somebody that thinks the way that I think. I don't need somebody white. I need somebody that matches my energy that thinks the way that I think that's it. And so because we spent God knows how much time wasting time arguing about race. We missed the fact that this is a values problem. And when you do it, values is the one thing people will kill for values. And I don't know, people like

• 1:05:37Speaker 01

  Give me liberty, give me death. I'm gonna kill you.

• 1:05:39Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, people cannot map to why do people slaughter for their religion? Because it religion is a way to transmit values. God said this thing, man. He said this thing matters. I I'm willing to lay my life down for it. Okay. So what you're seeing now is people that have been pushed too far. And they're spilling over and I think violence is stupid. I think that letting it get to this point was ridiculous, which is why I'm going to be watching what goes on in Japan like a hawk, because my hope is that they've responded so early. I forget somebody said that the immigrant number in the UK is 35%.

• 1:06:23Tom Bilyeu?

  I don't know that it's that high, but it's high. It's double digits for sure.

• 1:06:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:27Tom Bilyeu?

  And if Japan's number really is 3% immigrant and England's or UK's is really double digits. You get Japan acting now, getting somebody that's like, hey, we're gonna solve this immigration problem immediately. That's when you do it. You do it at 3%. You don't wait until it's 15%, 20%. That's where you start really having problems.

• 1:06:54Speaker 01

  And then this is kind of on the ground reporting. It's literally as he's talking, there's like fire behind him. It's kind of chaos. So it's to your point that this is not something that's going away. I just hope that it's not something that's going to get worse, but it seems like we're going in that direction.

• 1:07:09Speaker 08

  I'm here at the protest at City West Hotel where a migrant, an asylum seeker that was supposed to be deported.

• 1:07:16Speaker 01

  Literally, there's a top crown fire behind it.

• 1:07:18Speaker 08

  A 10 year old Irish girl that was in state care. As you can see, things are massively kicking off here. There's probably well over a thousand protesters. Unfortunately, this is the first crime we've seen like this even in the last year or two. So things are really reaching the boiling point here.

• 1:07:34Speaker 01

  I feel like

• 1:07:37Speaker 01

  ICE is the American equivalent of, all right, we need to round it up, kind of get these people out here. Do you think it's as simple as they just need to be Irish ICE, the UK ICE, rounds people out, kick people out? And everybody's like, yes, we're happy now?

• 1:07:49Tom Bilyeu?

  It's gonna be a multi-pronged approach, so they are going to need to do that. They need to start enforcing the laws. And they need to have a go-forward immigration plan. So are people still coming into the country? Like, is this something that's exacerbating itself? So you are gonna have to do all of that. And then, I don't know what their rules are against people speaking out about this. Like, I don't know, um, what city was it? Was that Dublin?

• 1:08:16Speaker 01

  Uh, I'm not sure what city it was.

• 1:08:18Tom Bilyeu?

  So I know that a small part of Ireland is Northern Ireland, and that falls under UK rule. But the vast majority of Ireland does not, so I'm pretty sure that's under the "does not." So I don't know if they're clamping down on, uh, people in the way that the UK is in terms of what you can say. The UK won't even let you talk about this. The UK has arrested Tommy Robinson, god knows how many times. And so if they're doing that, they're gonna make the problem worse. Because if, in this moment, people feel stifled, then they're gonna push back even harder. So you need to let people talk about this. You need to let them, um, come up with legislative solutions that are gonna certainly stop the problem from getting worse. And then you're gonna have to find the, you're gonna have to find a way to get rid of the illegal immigrants, for sure. I would say in an orderly fashion would be ideal.

• 1:09:04Tom Bilyeu?

  And then you have to figure out, okay, if we let a ton of people in the country already, now what do we do? Because if you've got people that are there legally, and they have, um, come in under your laws, they followed everything, and now they're there, but they're an immigrant, what can you do to? My take would be to get them to assimilate. So things like, um, the US, if we haven't already, and I don't think we have, but we should have an official language, should be English, mandated by law. Everything should be in English, full stop, period, end of story.

• 1:09:38Speaker 01

  When you say "everything," we're talking like?

• 1:09:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Anything the government puts out.

• 1:09:41Speaker 01

  Gotcha.

• 1:09:41Tom Bilyeu?

  So if taxpayers are paying for it, it should be in English.

• 1:09:47Tom Bilyeu?

  Things like there's the big debate on the driver's license test. Should somebody have to speak English to get a driver's license? To me, obviously, yes. So there are things like that that you can do to force people to assimilate.

• 1:10:00Tom Bilyeu?

  And we should be doing, we should certainly be doing those things. And then I'm going to guess countries like this should as well. I do not like the idea, if we legally let you come here, I do not like the idea of, sorry, now you gotta go. If you did everything by the book, you came in, you followed the rules, all of that. I'm not a fan of booting them out. But if you came here illegally, GTFO.

• 1:10:22Speaker 01

  Palmer Lucky has some very interesting health advice. So we were just talking about, you know, geez, running a marathon. I had a fitness goal recently. Palmer Lucky has the alpha for you guys if you want to get right in 2025.

• 1:10:34Tom Bilyeu?

  This is wild.

• 1:10:35Speaker 09

  I'm, I'm really afraid that nicotine might be really, really good.

• 1:10:41Speaker 09

  You know, you've probably seen this theory, right? Like, like basically, America smoked, smoked its way to being the dominant hyperpower. It kept people focused, it kept people fit, it's an appetite suppressant. There's this really interesting health trade off theory that I'm not saying I buy into it fully yet. So for people who are watching and shouting and screaming, I don't buy into it fully yet. But I'm becoming more and more convinced that the health benefits of not smoking were, have not been properly traded against the health problems caused by the resulting eating. Not just in terms of appetite suppressant, but also just people filling cravings and filling the need for ritual. Well, I would tell you, out of experience. With other, with other things that are worse for you.

• 1:11:24Speaker 09

  I think the crazy version of this is we'd all be better off with lung cancer eventually, but fit until then. And it could be that smoking gets you there, so.

• 1:11:33Tom Bilyeu?

  There's two levels to analyze this video at. One is God bless Palmer Lucky and people like him for being willing to go, hey, no, no, no, let's really rethink this. Maybe we are better off with lung cancer right up, you know, till the last minute, as long as you stay fit until then. I love it. Look at things from the strangest angles. Fantastic. Then the other is from the like just health perspective of it all. Drew, can I make an obvious statement?

• 1:12:01Speaker 01

  What's the obvious statement?

• 1:12:02Tom Bilyeu?

  The other option, other than smoking and getting lung cancer is don't eat bad food. Like you don't have to be fat, by the way. Like this is, it's not like Palmer, who God bless him. Truly, I think he is brilliant and I am so glad that he's on Team America. This guy is amazing. But the fact that he carries more fat around than I is not accidental or luck based. It is entirely what we each choose to chew and swallow. So there is a way to get through life where you don't have to get lung cancer to be healthy. Now, having said that, I fucked with nicotine for a minute.

• 1:12:42Speaker 01

  And you were on it.

• 1:12:43Tom Bilyeu?

  It's real. It's real. So the only reason I stopped is it hurt my hand. So I think, I think it's just the sugar in the gum, which is the way that I was getting it. Uh, so I've really in the back of my mind, I want to find a method that I can get the nicotine without the sugar. Because boy, oh, boy, that one, that is a drug you feel. That's not like a, do I notice? I was like, yo, this is rad. I was timing it for like when we went live.

• 1:13:13Speaker 01

  We could tell.

• 1:13:14Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh dude, it's, yeah, I would love to, I would love to get back on it. So somebody's saying Zen, if Zen, do you have to like, is it a pouch?

• 1:13:22Speaker 01

  That I, that I.

• 1:13:22Tom Bilyeu?

  Somebody, because that sounds disgusting. But, uh, if it's something that has no sugar and I can get the nicotine, I will try it in a heartbeat, in a heartbeat.

• 1:13:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, this definitely reminds me of the, uh, we used to call it in college, the weed diet, where there's people who would like smoke a bunch and they'll smoke themselves out and then they'll kind of be like sunken in and hollow and lose a bunch of weight.

• 1:13:42Tom Bilyeu?

  That's wild. Dude, weed makes me wanna eat. And eat.

• 1:13:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I feel like there's like you either overeat when you like smoke and then you get the munchies. And then it's I'm a chronic smoker and I smoke all the time to like Lucky's point that like after a while you just kind of hollow yourself out.

• 1:13:57Tom Bilyeu?

  Well, he's talking about nicotine. So nicotine specifically is an appetite suppressant and may have nutrition, partitioning, um, things about it where it gets your body to process the nutrients in a different way. I don't know. I heard that years ago. I never looked into it, but I remember thinking, ooh, that's interesting. But I don't know if it functions purely on an appetite appetite suppressant or if it actually does make your body respond to the, um, the nutrients in a different way. I don't know.

• 1:14:28Speaker 01

  I, I do think that there is something to different people react to different substances. Uh, uh, famously like Lil Wayne smoke, used to smoke weed, drank lean, recorded like six mixtapes in one summer.

• 1:14:40Tom Bilyeu?

  That's wild.

• 1:14:40Speaker 01

  And then, uh, he so much so that like Juice WRLD, Future, other people saw that. I'm like, oh, I need to get like Lil Wayne and start doing that.

• 1:14:47Tom Bilyeu?

  Right.

• 1:14:47Speaker 01

  And he kind of created all these people with like substance abuses, like Russ talked about it where I was like, I was smoking thinking I had to be like Lil Wayne, but then I couldn't handle it. So I was just strung out on top. So it's definitely to each their own. Everybody has their different lines, but.

• 1:15:01Tom Bilyeu?

  People have to be careful. So my wife has a friend that can smoke five joints in a day, like pure weed joints. And I'm like, uh, that is wild. You, you have built your body's tolerance up at that point.

• 1:15:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:15Tom Bilyeu?

  And I admittedly am very nervous about long-term health consequences. And like, if you haven't seen the Charlie Sheen documentary, it is fascinating because in that, um, God, who was it? Uh, Spikolsky. Oh God, what's his name? Married Madonna. What? Yes, Sean Penn. Thank you. Sean Penn was like, dude, most people do cocaine and they want to have sex, but they can't have sex because literally physically they can't get an erection. And he was like, Charlie Sheen does not have that problem. He was like, I think Charlie Sheen is built different. I think Charlie Sheen can do a lot of drugs that other people cannot do. It affects them in a different way. There's supposedly some percentage of the population that when they drink alcohol, it wakes them up. And those are the guys that party all night. Alcohol puts me to sleep.

• 1:16:00Tom Bilyeu?

  So if I have a bunch of alcohol, I'm just going to be laid out, man. So I don't have the pull to drink. Cause I'm, it's just going to make me tired. So. I think people have to be very careful mapping to someone like Lil Wayne, who might be in a situation where they just metabolize the chemicals very differently, or have a, an ability to function that is way different than the next person. So yeah, if you're trying to sip, lean and smoke weed like him, or like the way Snoop Dogg smokes, yo.

• 1:16:32Speaker 01

  Um, Yellow Night was like, smoking was the OG Ozempic back in the day.

• 1:16:36Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, dude, I know so many people back in like eighties and nineties, who were terrified to stop smoking, because people would just balloon when they stopped.

• 1:16:45Speaker 01

  And Gary said he's high right now, so ayy.

• 1:16:48Tom Bilyeu?

  There you go, Gary.

• 1:16:48Speaker 01

  There it is. You could be playing video games.

• 1:16:50Tom Bilyeu?

  It's 5pm somewhere.

• 1:16:52Speaker 01

  Thank you for that. I appreciate it.

• 1:16:53Tom Bilyeu?

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