Fraud Friday: The Poisonous Beauty Product Peddler w/ Alaska Thunderfuck

Laci welcomes Alaska Thunderfuck (RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars Season 2) to discuss a Victorian era beauty influencer who peddled deadly beauty products and was a full-time criminal. Plus, a bride and groom planned a wedding at a venue they didn't own or rent because the Lord told them so. Stay Schemin’! (Originally Released 05/17/2021) CONgregation, catch Laci's TV Show, Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Did you miss out on a custom signed Scam Goddess: Lessons from a Life of Cons, Grifts and Schemes book? Look no more, nab your copy here on PODSWAG Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Alaska Thunderfuck: @theonlyalaska5000 Research by Sharilyn Vera SOURCES: https://apnews.com/article/bride-groom-crashers-illegal-wedding-130c7270d0d206f61e08f1b197779815 https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/who-was-madame-rachel-scam https://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/170084/Victorian-con-artist-Madame-Rachel-Fortune-from-fake-beauty-products

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 2:00Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay schemin'.

• 2:42Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's me, Scam Goddess, and we're back with another installment of Scam Goddess. And guys, say it with me. What am I, I'm so what? Yes, excited, excited for this guest. I really, truly am. This was a big get, honey. We love to have the queens on. And you will recognize this person from the fifth season of RuPaul's Drag Race, and also the winner of the second season of RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars. New York Magazine placed her on the list of most powerful drag queens. Come on now, we'd love to see it. Alaska Thunderfuck. And she has a special coming out on Out TV that's called Alaska Thunderfuck. Extra special, comedy special. Guys, welcome Alaska Thunderfuck.

• 3:27Laci Mosley?

  Hey, Alaska!

• 3:28Speaker 05

  Mmm, hello. How are you doing?

• 3:32Laci Mosley?

  Oh, good. Better now that you're here, much better.

• 3:36Speaker 05

  Since this is Scam Goddess, I really want to talk to you about your car's warranty. I have really important-

• 3:44Laci Mosley?

  Not a scam out the gate, girl. Not a scam out the gate.

• 3:48Speaker 05

  Straight out, there's so many.

• 3:50Laci Mosley?

  All of a sudden Alaska has pamphlets and business cards, and yes.

• 3:54Speaker 05

  You have to call me back right away about your car's warranty. I mean-

• 3:58Laci Mosley?

  It's an emergency.

• 3:59Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 4:00Laci Mosley?

  It's so funny you say that, because I used to drive a Ford Focus. And I learned recently that, or I actually learned on the lot, that they're like lemons, like they have a lot of problems. And I would get shit in the mail all the time about warranties. And they'd be like, hey, sis, your door might fly off. So, you know, give the girls a call. I'm like, what?

• 4:22Laci Mosley?

  The Ford Focus.

• 4:26Speaker 05

  Focus on me.

• 4:27Laci Mosley?

  Right now, listen, if Ford want to sponsor this podcast, I love them automobile vehicles. Take it all back.

• 4:33Speaker 05

  We want to take a second to talk to you about the Ford Focus.

• 4:37Laci Mosley?

  We love it. Okay. Well, who needs a door? What if your door fly off? What? Okay, now you're driving like the UPS man. I don't see the problem. Okay.

• 4:46Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 4:48Laci Mosley?

  They don't need a door and neither do you, honey. Okay?

• 4:51Speaker 05

  No, no.

• 4:53Laci Mosley?

  Yes. So Alaska, what's your relationship with scams? Do you like them? Do you hate them? Have you ever been scammed? It could be anything.

• 4:59Speaker 05

  This is the thing I was thinking about this and I'm like, I feel like my family was super like skeptical. When I was growing up, because I was like a kid and I was like, oh my gosh, it's on TV. So it must be true. It must be real. And so my family was like, my parents were super like, no, everything on TV is fake. Everyone's lying to you. Everything is a scam. So I've grown up to be very skeptical. I don't answer emails. I don't answer the phone. Like I don't answer the door. Like, no, I just, I don't. I don't like it. I don't do it. And it's so bad now. These, I, I feel like scamming has,

• 5:44Speaker 05

  since the pandemic, I feel like people are like, okay, I need to, I think I'm going to take up scamming as my career.

• 5:53Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Scamming. It has. That's what I love about it. It changes so much. I saw a tweet recently that was like, look, I would rather have a PPE loan and no business than a student loan debt and no education. I was like, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense to me. I mean, the whole country is a scam, the whole, everything that's happening to us. And I think after the pandemic, that was a real realization for people because tax money was always taken, is always taken out of our checks. We pay taxes every year and the assumption was, is that that money is being used for the greater good. And then you watch people go into dire straits in a pandemic and then daddy government just. He's out Daddy government went to get a carton of cigarettes and never came back.

• 6:34Speaker 05

  Truly, truly like oh, the stimulus checks are coming. They're gonna be so big. You guys just hold on like you're you're not even ready for these checks. Okay, they're gonna be sickening. Um, so.

• 6:52Laci Mosley?

  And then we were like, okay, well, where are the checks? Where are the sickening checks that we were told that were coming?

• 6:56Speaker 05

  Well, when you get it, you're gonna just, you're gonna lose your mind. You're just gonna love it. No, it was no, it's horrible. You're right. The the whole country is a scam. I mean, and you know, I mean, the country kind of was built on.

• 7:09Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it was built on robbery of people and and and fraud and murder, you know, and genocide of, you know, native people. So it's all a scam. It's been since the beginning, but I think this was the first time for a lot of people that they were like, oh, whoa, wait a minute. They said 2000 and then the girls gave 1400 like. They lied about the pandemic, the whole beginning of they're like, no, no, no, it's just a little cold, y'all chill out, chill out the stock market, y'all, the stock market like. It's been a grift from the beginning. So I love to see that people are like getting involved.

• 7:41Speaker 05

  Exactly. And like getting more wise to it, which I guess is the, you know, is the first step in kind of making it better. I hope, but these fucking voicemails with the, I mean, it's every day that the voicemails. And they call my mom too. They call everybody. Who are these people? If I was to run for office, which I'm not planning on doing until I'm at least 40. But if I was to run for office, my cause would be I'm gonna get rid of all spam phone calls. That would be my campaign slate because it's literally across the board, whether you're on the left or the right or whatever.

• 8:25Speaker 05

  Everyone hates them. Everyone hates that. And it's absurd and it's wrong. So like I would run on that as my campaign.

• 8:32Laci Mosley?

  That's a great unification ticket. You want to talk about rushing across the aisle? We can all agree to that. And it's so funny you say that about the phone calls because I get phone calls every day and now iPhones will do the scam likely and shit. And every now and then I'll pick up on a scam likely because I just want to see what the girls are up to. And the thing that.

• 8:49Speaker 05

  As a research.

• 8:50Laci Mosley?

  My homegirls, you know, and whenever I just pick up on scam like Esha. It's automated and that to me is the most disrespectful part of it. How dare you call me and then they're like, hello, we have a scam for you. Press one. I'm like, you can't even get on, I can't even have interpersonal communication with the scam artist. You gonna try to rob me automated? That's disrespectful.

• 9:13Speaker 05

  I don't, I don't, I don't, how is that a viable business model for somebody? Who's out there manifesting these calls?

• 9:22Laci Mosley?

  They have to be making money somehow and I'm trying to get involved. You know what I gotta do? Who, how many people, how many people I gotta type to every day? Hello, I can do that. I got y'all.

• 9:33Laci Mosley?

  It's so disrespectful. Like at least call me, put some respect on the scam now. But let's get into it, Alaska. Our first segment on the show is called what's hot and fried. This is where we warn our listeners about popping scams on the streets. Or more often than not these days, we get a letter from one of you guys. As always, [email protected], snitch on your friends and family. Just make sure that the scam is retired. We don't want to fuck up your bag, alright? So I need a fake name, Alaska, for this person. We don't care about gender.

• 10:04Speaker 05

  Winifred, um.

• 10:10Laci Mosley?

  Winifred Wilson, definitely a scammer. Yes. So Winifred seems to be on the receiving end of this scam. But uh, we're still, we're still gonna honor it. So Winifred says, I was contacted by a girl who said she was my cousin from Jamaica. Amen.

• 10:28Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 10:29Laci Mosley?

  She made the connection since we had the same last name and reached out to me. We had four mutual friends on Facebook, all cousins that I actually knew. Good thing another cousin had previously warned me and my siblings about people randomly reaching out and asking for money. So you know, we were kind of ahead on this scam. After the first message, she started calling me from the Facebook app. Wow.

• 10:52Speaker 05

  Not calling.

• 10:54Laci Mosley?

  There's nothing more terrifying than a phone call from the Facebook app.

• 10:57Speaker 05

  Not a cold call from Facebook app, no.

• 11:01Laci Mosley?

  I had to turn that shit off. I was like, nah, Mark Zuckerberg, you will not be contacting my cellular device. This is out of hand. So they said that she said she was 24 and I don't know who under the age of 40 prefers phone calls. So I would already suspicious and kept avoiding her. That is absolutely right. I don't even.

• 11:21Speaker 05

  That's true.

• 11:22Laci Mosley?

  There's like three people maybe that I call out of the blue, like two best friends and my mom.

• 11:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 11:27Laci Mosley?

  Everybody else I'll text like, hey, you free for a call? Hey, just want to let you know I'm gonna accost you with a cellular communication. Are you all right with that? We don't call people.

• 11:37Speaker 05

  Yeah, my friend Nick and I are like, okay, I'm gonna cold call you. We're still giving each other notice for an unexpected phone call. Yes.

• 11:45Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. Cause we're just, I don't know, the phone is so much, you know, like.

• 11:49Speaker 05

  So much.

• 11:50Laci Mosley?

  Shoot me a text. I mean, don't, if my house is on fire, please don't text like, hey, girl, house on fire.

• 11:56Speaker 05

  Fire emoji.

• 11:57Laci Mosley?

  Right. House emoji, fire emoji, 911, question mark.

• 12:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, then call. Then there's certain places, reasons you can call. You know what I mean? If somebody goes missing, don't text me like dad gone, dead emoji.

• 12:15Speaker 05

  Right.

• 12:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we want to know then. Although I do find it funny, older people using emojis because I've recently seen like some bereavement stuff where someone will be like, oh, this person's passed away. And then like older people will use like the dead skeleton emoji underneath like.

• 12:30Speaker 05

  Oh, not that. No, we use that to say something was really funny. Like I'm dead. Oh, I'm dead.

• 12:37Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 12:40Speaker 05

  No, not like we are, we are here to gather to mourn and celebrate the life of skull emoji.

• 12:50Laci Mosley?

  Emoji.

• 12:51Speaker 05

  No.

• 12:51Laci Mosley?

  No. It's so funny, emojis and graphics when they're used for like, serious things. Like, at my grandfather's funeral, um, he requested, and I didn't know he requested it, because at first I was pissed about it, but like, a rocket going into the sky, which was like, on the, like, the opening of his casket. So like, the flipped up part was like, it looked like a clip art rocket going into clip art clouds. And I was like, who did this?

• 13:21Speaker 05

  I like it.

• 13:23Laci Mosley?

  But he was in the Air Force, but I'm like, y'all couldn't have went and got the Air Force logo? Like, y'all wouldn't have got my, my, my man's, a clip art, uh, rocket?

• 13:30Speaker 05

  Not the clip art rocket.

• 13:32Laci Mosley?

  I was ready to fight. The clip art should never be used at anybody's funeral. Just don't do it.

• 13:40Laci Mosley?

  What? It's bad enough we gotta be photoshopped into them damn clouds. Please don't use no damn clip art at the funeral. Scum.

• 13:50Speaker 00

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• 14:21Speaker 06

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• 14:35Speaker 07

  People would always think I was lactose intolerant, so I just kind of shortened my explanation to, I'm deathly allergic. In a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

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• 15:17Speaker 03

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• 15:30Speaker 06

  The moment that there is a compound that someone in a lab thinks it would be effective to treat a certain disease, it takes about 10 to 13 years from that moment to when that drug is on a shelf for a patient. A big part of that gap could be computationally solved. Better simulation of compounds, designing drug trials that are more efficient, that would finish faster. That was the motivation to bring computational tools and technology closer to biomedical researchers.

• 16:05Speaker 03

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• 16:20Laci Mosley?

  But anyway, getting back to this.

• 16:22Speaker 05

  Winifred.

• 16:23Laci Mosley?

  Winifred Wilson. So Winifred said that the girl kept calling and harassing. Eventually, she decided to just keep messaging me through WhatsApp. She started off by asking, how are you? To which I replied, good. You? Look, I like the engagement of this scam because I told you I don't like automated scam. At least she's trying to see how your day is.

• 16:41Speaker 05

  Yes, yes.

• 16:43Laci Mosley?

  How's your day, sis? Looking rich? Bank account looking full? You know? She wants to know. So I responded saying, good. And you? And she responded saying, not good, cousin. Then tells me that she needs money for eye medicine. And I replied with something just as dramatic, saying, I was waiting on a paycheck or I'll lose my car. She said she understood and stopped messaging. I love that for you. She was like, no, things are not, things are going bad. Me need money for me eye. And you were like, well, things going real bad over here. Me need, me need money or they take me car. You just out struggled.

• 17:19Speaker 05

  Like you ask them.

• 17:20Laci Mosley?

  Actually, I need eye medicine as well.

• 17:22Speaker 05

  Right, exactly.

• 17:25Laci Mosley?

  The repo man is standing outside my house right now like Debo knocking, so.

• 17:29Speaker 05

  Right. Like you're like, you know what? I'm so glad you contacted me. I was wondering if I could borrow a few thousand dollars.

• 17:37Laci Mosley?

  This is working out for both of us.

• 17:39Speaker 05

  What is family for? You know what I mean? So.

• 17:42Laci Mosley?

  Family in Jamaica that I've never met. Love to see it. So the next day she tried again. Uh, we'll see some images now of, uh, her requesting again from WhatsApp to get some coins. So can we zoom in on this? Cause I'm trying to see what this says. Okay. So.

• 17:58Speaker 05

  This is wild.

• 18:00Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Winifred, can we talk about how you love scams? Cause you kept engaging with this cause they know in damn well. You, you didn't know a bumbaclot from a cool runnings of this person. So it says, hi. And then the response is hello from Winifred. How are you? Says the scammer.

• 18:17Speaker 05

  H R U.

• 18:19Laci Mosley?

  H R U. So not even how.

• 18:21Speaker 05

  I guess that's what people say in texts.

• 18:24Laci Mosley?

  Is she in rush?

• 18:25Speaker 05

  I've never.

• 18:28Speaker 05

  H R U.

• 18:29Laci Mosley?

  Okay, you kinda is what the scammer says. What's wrong? Why are you feeding into this Winifred? You knew what was wrong. Money. Okay.

• 18:38Speaker 05

  What's wrong?

• 18:39Laci Mosley?

  So this is the whole eye pain conversation. My eye is painting me because I don't have, my eye is painting me because me don't have that medicine.

• 18:46Speaker 05

  That's really good.

• 18:47Laci Mosley?

  How do you usually get the medicine? And the scammer says, I would try me ask someone for help for me to buy it. So that's how you normally buy your eye medicine? You don't, you don't ever purchase it yourself?

• 18:59Laci Mosley?

  May always ask someone.

• 19:01Speaker 05

  The follow up questions are good. How, how, uh, what's wrong with your eye? Like really, these are good follow up questions.

• 19:10Laci Mosley?

  I, I met an accident from that me, I start acting up. So what was the accident that made you I start acting up?

• 19:18Laci Mosley?

  Acting up, what does that mean? Is it like you can't see? Is it like dry eye? What does acting up mean? So the Winifred asks, what medicine do you use?

• 19:30Speaker 05

  Simple questions, yes.

• 19:32Laci Mosley?

  Scammer responds, Issa eye drop.

• 19:39Laci Mosley?

  Is it Visine sis? What kind of eye drop is it? What kind is what Winifred says. Scammer says, I'm not sure.

• 19:53Laci Mosley?

  And then the scammer said, or Winifred says, I can get the eye drops if you tell me what kind. And then the scammer says, how would I get it?

• 20:02Speaker 05

  Right.

• 20:03Laci Mosley?

  He says, I can get it to you. So I love that this was like such a poorly thought out scam.

• 20:11Speaker 05

  Bad lies, bad lies.

• 20:13Laci Mosley?

  What kind of medicine? It's a drop for your eye. You know, eye drop. Anyway, can you send me $6,000? Like what?

• 20:21Speaker 05

  Right. Also, very like kind of a low ball item to do a scam for. Eye drops, they cost $2, right? Maybe $6, maybe on the high end, $20 if they're like really rich eye drops. But like that is a very small item.

• 20:44Laci Mosley?

  Right. And I think that's the hope is like he starts small and then you're like, oh, it's me, your cousin again from Jamaica. Uh, Wagwan. I need money for something bigger, you know?

• 20:56Laci Mosley?

  And we have a picture of the Jamaican cousin on Facebook and she looks like she's doing alright. She looks like she's, she's okay. But I thought this scam was so, so here we are.

• 21:07Speaker 05

  Oh, okay.

• 21:08Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and and her, her, her Facebook bio says antisocial with one of those red X's. Then another red X and it says, yes, bitches, exclamation, exclamation emoji. Then it says, go lurk, am really too blessed to be stressed, living the life I deserve. With like a bunch of emojis. So it's like, well, if you're too blessed to be stressed, then it seems like you got eye drops. If you live in the life you deserve, I feel like eye drops are involved in that, in the life you deserve.

• 21:39Speaker 05

  Wow, uh, she, she is living the life she deserves.

• 21:43Laci Mosley?

  Scamming.

• 21:45Speaker 05

  Deep scamming.

• 21:47Laci Mosley?

  The life we all deserve. So Winifred said, I played along to see if she would crack. Once I told her I would just send the medicine, she stopped responding and I blocked her. Turns out she did the same thing to my dad recently and he actually sent her money. Gotta be quicker than that to catch me.

• 22:03Speaker 05

  Okay, see, that's where, that's where this is so fucked up. Because they prey upon older people. Because older people are more trusting, they're a little bit, they're less like tech savvy. So they're like, oh my God, someone texted me and they need money. Like, of course I'm gonna try to help them.

• 22:26Laci Mosley?

  Right. And I think that this is a great setup because obviously this woman, um, went on Facebook, probably found one of you who had the same last name as her and then looked at your page profile and looked at who you had listed as family. Cause a lot of people do that on Facebook. She added everybody else to make her grift seem legitimate. And then she started reaching out to you guys one by one. So that's the thing about Facebook and putting your personal information on there. Why does everybody on Facebook, Facebook need to know who your cousins are? Why? You don't need to list that. You absolutely do not need to list that on Facebook. So again, we're all volunteering too much information and scammers are getting a hold of this. Cause even if I can go to your Facebook page and see who your granny is and see if they're alive, I can then take that information about you

• 23:09Laci Mosley?

  and go to your granny and be like, hey, so and so is in jail and they told me to reach out to you via Facebook and they need bail money. You know, these are the kind of scams that happen because you're. You're listing your whole family. Please take your whole family tree off of motherfucking Facebook. That's what you have reunions for. You know who your cousin is on Facebook. You don't need anybody else to tell you. And I have a person who pretends to be my cousin already, um, and she be posting under my stuff all the time. Hey cousin, it's me. Your fourth cousin on your auntie Dora's side. And I'm like, I don't know who you are and I don't know what you want me to do with this.

• 23:43Laci Mosley?

  Why do we need to be cousins?

• 23:46Speaker 05

  No, yes, no, that's why, no, I, I don't, that's why I never use Facebook for this very re- well, there's lots of reasons. But this is now a really great reason to continue to not use it.

• 23:58Laci Mosley?

  Absolutely, it absolutely is. But guys. And it's time for my favorite segment of this show, Historic Hoodwink. This is where we will regale Alaska Thunderfuck with a famous con or caper. Today's historic hoodwink is about a Victorian beauty influencer who peddled poisonous beauty products. Blast from the past. We love merch. We love products.

• 24:19Speaker 05

  We do. I mean, hey, cosmetic industry is huge.

• 24:22Laci Mosley?

  It really is. And Sarah Rachel Russell sold exotic makeup that turned out to mostly be arsenic. Wow.

• 24:31Speaker 05

  Oh my god.

• 24:32Laci Mosley?

  So Sarah, first and foremost, and we got a picture of Sarah right here. Let's zoom in on Sarah.

• 24:39Speaker 05

  This picture of.

• 24:40Laci Mosley?

  The original IG influencer. Okay, she was doing sponsored posts on foot, honey. What do y'all know about that? Horse and buggy sponsored posts, okay?

• 24:51Speaker 05

  My name is Sarah.

• 24:54Laci Mosley?

  Welcome back. I love that she's suddenly Irish and this is fantastic. So Sarah got that drip. Like I know in olden times, like, you know, they wore, they wore a lot of clothing. Like Sarah got on about five dresses in this photo.

• 25:07Speaker 05

  She does.

• 25:08Laci Mosley?

  A neck scarf, a hairband, and like full belts. She was serving, she was serving for the time.

• 25:17Speaker 05

  And wildly not a stitch of makeup for a makeup influencer, for a makeup salesperson. Not a stitch.

• 25:25Laci Mosley?

  This was the nineteen hundreds, so I, I mean, she must have been balling if she could even get a photograph. Cause wasn't that a thing? Like you had to sit there forever and have some coins?

• 25:34Speaker 05

  She was like, I'm gonna get this picture, babe. Watch.

• 25:37Laci Mosley?

  She don't have no rouge. I'm not seeing brows.

• 25:40Speaker 05

  No contouring. Honestly, I just.

• 25:43Laci Mosley?

  Just from the photo alone, I'm like, Sarah. But I guess she wasn't putting on her products because they were arsenic. So you just had to take her word.

• 25:52Speaker 05

  Okay, okay, I'm curious to see how this turns out.

• 25:56Laci Mosley?

  I am too, because also I'm like, Sarah, if you wanted to sell some bootleg makeup, you really didn't have to start with rat poison. You were killing your customer base. Like, what is this, honey? So Madame Rachel was born Sarah Rachel Russell sometime in the first quarter of the 19th century. She grew up on London's overcrowded, poverty-stricken East End, where she sold rabbit skins and used clothes and dried fish. Okay, so she was a hustler.

• 26:20Speaker 05

  Honey, yes, dried fish, baby, everybody needs it.

• 26:24Laci Mosley?

  She had those Roger rabbit skins.

• 26:28Laci Mosley?

  If you want to wear Roger, pull up, pull up to Miss Sarah, she's got it for you. She, she later told fortunes for a penny around the public house of a convent garden and helped acquire girls from Drury Lane's Theaters for a brothel in Piccadilly. Wow, on Drury Lane, what song is with, that talks about Drury Lane?

• 26:48Speaker 05

  Do you know the muffin man?

• 26:51Laci Mosley?

  The muffin man.

• 26:54Speaker 05

  He lives on Drury Lane.

• 26:57Laci Mosley?

  So Sarah said, fuck the muffin man, okay, y'all Drury girls.

• 27:01Speaker 05

  I'm getting these girls.

• 27:03Laci Mosley?

  Come over here to Piccadilly, to Piccadilly, honey. Okay, rumors suggested that she did a little soliciting on the side, too. Okay, yes, she found a husband, he died, then another, who also died, curious, and finally moved in with a man named Philip Levinson. She continued to do odd jobs, a bit of fortune telling here and there, a spot of sex work there, until she founded her own beauty salon in London's snobby Mayfair district. Okay, Sarah was a hustler.

• 27:31Speaker 05

  Okay, yeah, I mean, truly.

• 27:33Laci Mosley?

  She was an entrepreneur, she was a brand influencer, and an all-around queen.

• 27:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, sex positive.

• 27:42Laci Mosley?

  Sex positive.

• 27:43Speaker 05

  Work.

• 27:44Laci Mosley?

  Oh, so rebranding herself. This is when Rachel rebranded herself as Madame Rachel. She, because remember her first name is Sarah, so now she's going by Madame Rachel, her middle name. We love a scammer who changes their name. We know that's a part of any great scam.

• 27:58Speaker 05

  Smart.

• 27:59Laci Mosley?

  So she launched an ethically questionable cosmetic practice capitalizing on Victorian women's desire for eternal youth, which that is just the beauty industry now.

• 28:09Speaker 05

  Period, yeah.

• 28:10Laci Mosley?

  Right. We haven't given up that grift. I love that beauty commercials, like their whole point seems to be to make you feel ugly so that you'll buy it. Like, beauty commercials are never like enhancing your natural beauty. They're like, come here, you ugly raggedy skank. If you don't get this eye cream, no one will love you. Now, look at this beautiful woman that we have enhanced beyond reality. Don't you want to look like her?

• 28:34Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm, yes.

• 28:36Laci Mosley?

  And the whole point is that you can't. The whole point is that no one will ever be able to look like a retouched photo of themself in real life, so you'll keep buying shit. So Madame Rachel opened her salon in London's Bond Street with the words, "Beautiful forever." I mean, can't fight with that. Painted above the door. Mmm, I don't want to just be beautiful for now. I want to be beautiful forever.

• 28:58Speaker 05

  Like makeup forever.

• 29:00Laci Mosley?

  Yup, yup. And I love me some makeup forever, honey. So one of her first advertisements for the beauty store appeared in the Morning Post. "Beautiful women," in all caps. Okay, she said, "Here ye, here ye, bad bitches."

• 29:15Laci Mosley?

  Can't be mad at that. She said, "Madame Rachel begs to inform her lady patronesses, the nobility, the aristocracy, that she has opened her annual subscription list for the supply of her costly Arabian preparations for the restoration and preservation of female loveliness."

• 29:35Speaker 05

  That's beautifully written.

• 29:37Laci Mosley?

  So I love this. She's telling you, one, hey, bad bitches. Also, hey, rich bad bitches only. Okay. Also, we got foreign products. We got that foreign over here. You can't even buy this in the streets of London. Okay. The muffin man ain't ever seen nothing that I'm selling. Okay.

• 29:56Laci Mosley?

  So she's giving opulence. She's giving exclusivity. And, and also she's giving prose. This is beautifully written.

• 30:04Speaker 05

  Very well done.

• 30:05Laci Mosley?

  So in 1860s, in the 1860s, British women who wanted to wear makeup had to do so on the down low. In an announcement that absolutely no one asked for, Queen Victoria declared skin cosmetics to be vulgar and unladylike, fit for only theater and the brothel, according to the BBC. Huh.

• 30:24Speaker 05

  Hmm.

• 30:25Laci Mosley?

  Queen Victoria.

• 30:26Speaker 05

  Come on, Queen Victoria. We know you paint for the royal photos and the royal paintings. Do not, do not do that. But you know what? As soon as someone comes out and says, X, Y, and Z are vulgar and terrible. It's only a matter of time before the teenagers start doing it. So like, that was a great endorsement, Victoria.

• 30:47Laci Mosley?

  And why Victoria? Like, were, were, were bitches better than you? And you were like, we gotta, we gotta have a, a royal decree that nobody can be better than me. Okay?

• 31:00Laci Mosley?

  This just feels like, you know, at this time, people were very impoverished in London. Like, there were real problems, real illnesses. Queen Victoria, it just feels like you outlining, you know, people chewing on, rubbing a little berry on their lip or pinching their cheeks. It just feels petty.

• 31:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 31:16Laci Mosley?

  The Londoners were like, we need food. And Queen Victoria was like, hey, hey, hey. No one can look bad than me. So all you bad bitches, scrub your harlot faces right now or you'll be killed.

• 31:28Speaker 05

  Very, very that.

• 31:30Laci Mosley?

  Vicky, that's not what we asked for. We wanted loaves of bread. We wanted.

• 31:36Laci Mosley?

  We wanted a pincer too, honey, so we could live. What is happening? So, at that time, the only socialist acceptable way to alter your appearance was to pinch your cheeks or bite your lips, which that's literally what we just said. So you had to be pinching all day and biting all day.

• 31:52Speaker 05

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 31:54Laci Mosley?

  So fun fact, some women use beeswax on their lashes to make them look thicker and for eyeliner. Some women use burnt matches once they were cooled and rub that, you know, the smokey eye really came from smoke.

• 32:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 32:07Laci Mosley?

  Soot.

• 32:09Speaker 05

  I love that.

• 32:11Laci Mosley?

  I just imagine like a bunch of like bad bitches in London like crowding around the fire that just got put out and just scooping up the coals and the ashes for their new look.

• 32:20Speaker 05

  Very, yes.

• 32:22Laci Mosley?

  So I'm into it. So when Madame Rachel opened up shop, rich women couldn't get in line fast enough. I love this. What an influencer opening. It's like when Rihanna drops a shoe and we all line up down the block. Okay, Madame Rachel.

• 32:36Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 32:36Laci Mosley?

  So Madame Rachel dresses to impress. She wore luscious robes, dripping jewels, and crystal talismans around her neck. And the talisman is like a stone or a ring or another object engraved with figures or characters supposed to possess occult powers, uh, and is worn like an amulet or a charm. So she said she got the creams and the eyeliners and the foundations, and she also has, uh, the blood of Satan keeping her alive around her neck.

• 33:01Speaker 05

  Yes, um, you have to have a look if you're selling a product, if you're the proprietor of a beauty shop. You have to, it helps to have a look. And she said, get into my talismans.

• 33:15Laci Mosley?

  Witchy opulence. You know what I mean?

• 33:18Speaker 05

  Very.

• 33:19Laci Mosley?

  That's just what we call the S C O now on Insta.

• 33:23Speaker 05

  I love that look.

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• 35:27Laci Mosley?

  I love a, I love a, um, a sage girl, you know, a girl on Insta who she's like putting the sage up and she's doing the meditations and she wears a lot of white and she whispers in her videos. Like, I love that whole vibe.

• 35:40Speaker 05

  I love that too. Very Miss Rachel, Madame Rachel.

• 35:44Laci Mosley?

  Yes, yes. So some products and treatments she offered were the Armenian Beauty Wash, the Turkish Golden Hair Wash, and the Royal Arabian Face Cream. So was she just trying to be like the Kardashians, but like?

• 35:57Speaker 05

  She was. She absolutely was.

• 36:01Laci Mosley?

  Before, before we had KKW Beauty, we had Madame Rachel.

• 36:05Speaker 05

  Madame Rachel turning at work, okay.

• 36:09Laci Mosley?

  So Madame Rachel peddled strange extravagant cosmetics for astronomical prices, including a hundred sixty dollar magnetic rock dew of the Sahara for removing wrinkles. Okay, so this sounds like the first like Jade roller. She was like, I got a rock for you girls too. Rub this rock on your face. And they're like, Madame Rachel, my face is bleeding. Oh yeah, that's just new face coming in. That means it's gonna be cute. When the blood stop, it's gonna be some new face and then that's gonna be cute.

• 36:36Speaker 05

  Vampire facial, yeah.

• 36:38Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. So inside each of her powders and creams and washes, of course, lurked a toxic cocktail of chemicals. The item was said to offer the appearance of increasing youth to persons of considerable age. If something had the power to burn off the skin of your face or poison your mind, Madame Rachel probably sold it. So she said we got to burn it off to get the, yeah. So that's awful. This is bad, guys. Like, I wish she was just selling products and making it up, not using actual poison. Like, then the girls are like, oh, my face is burning. And Madame's like, yes, that's what it's supposed to do.

• 37:10Speaker 05

  It's working. Yeah, yeah, it's working.

• 37:13Laci Mosley?

  No, no, no, that's good. You said your face is peeling off? Yeah, that means new face. New face is coming. This is good for you. So Rachel's trademark service was called Enameling. Ooh, that don't sound good.

• 37:25Laci Mosley?

  That don't sound good. Enamel, I don't want that on my face. What? It claimed to lighten a lady's skin by removing all the hairs on her face, then dousing her with an alkaline wash that one would normally use to clean a toilet.

• 37:40Speaker 05

  Oh, okay. See, this is, that's not good. This is the problem with the beauty industry. People will go to great lengths.

• 37:49Laci Mosley?

  Mm hmm. Dangerous lengths. You know, she said, no more wire hangers, but on your face. Like, she put in the comment, on your face.

• 37:56Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 37:59Laci Mosley?

  So beyond beauty scams, Rachel ran a series of other money making schemes. Rachel would charge men to creep on women through peep holes during their privacy in their Arabian baths. So she was doing the Arabian baths and then she was cutting a little hole in the wall.

• 38:12Speaker 05

  Oh, I don't like this.

• 38:14Laci Mosley?

  She's a bad lady.

• 38:16Speaker 05

  I don't like her.

• 38:17Laci Mosley?

  I don't think we fuck with Rachel. She's a bad lady. Like, I feel like she could have just run some cool, normal scams, like peep holes, sis.

• 38:23Speaker 05

  See, she, this is where she loses me because I almost, I almost would believe like, okay, there are chemicals in it. Maybe she didn't know. Maybe she did. Maybe she really just didn't know that it was poisonous. I can give her that. But the like, I sawed a hole in the bath, um, chamber, and I'm going to charge guys to line up and take a look at unsuspecting beauty women?

• 38:52Laci Mosley?

  That is disturbing. And also just such a cartoon creepy thing to do. Sawing a little hole.

• 39:01Speaker 05

  Very cartoonish.

• 39:02Laci Mosley?

  And I'm here trying to get my Arabian bath on. I just hear a lot of deep breaths from the corner. Like, uh, Madam Rachel, what's that hole in the corner, sis? What's that? Oh, don't worry about that. That's just, that's how we let out the toxins. It's just the toxins being let out. Well, I can hear somebody breathing, Madam Rachel. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That was just, uh, we got ghosts. Did I tell you we had ghosts? That's why I wear this amulet.

• 39:23Speaker 05

  Right. Victorian ghosts.

• 39:25Laci Mosley?

  No, it's cool. There's just beauty ghosts. They be chilling, honestly. It's all good. Like, so that's really fucked up. So Rachel, I don't fuck with you. This is gross. In eighteen sixty-eight, one of Rachel's clients, Miss Mary Tucker Borrel Adele, oh lord, a colonial widow finally blew the whistle. Okay, so she's a widow, and she ain't got no mans to be worried about in the colonial times, so she got time on her hands, the original Karen. And, and we love it in this case. She put on her wig and she said, "Here ye, here ye bitch, what you not gonna do?" Um, and we love it. She had conned one victim into believing a nobleman was madly in love with her and wanted to marry her. Wow. And Rachel milked Mary of fourteen hundred dollars, of fourteen hundred pounds, about two thousand dollars US,

• 40:08Laci Mosley?

  and her army widow's pension. Wow. So this is the widowed woman, who was, and Rachel was like, "You know what? I know somebody, aristocrat, who will wanna be with you, girl. It's only gonna cost you like fourteen hundred pounds."

• 40:20Speaker 05

  He needs eye drops, though, so if you

• 40:26Speaker 05

  I don't know the name of the eyedrop, uh, but he needs, he got in an accident and his eye has been acting up.

• 40:34Laci Mosley?

  Acting up, okay? The better to see you with, my dear. He need to be able to see you. So we didn't gotta get, we gotta get him the drops first. Oh my gosh, you killing me. Yes, Alaska. So the nobleman turned out to be some stage door Johnny who used peepholes to observe women during the baths.

• 40:51Speaker 05

  No, not this guy. Not one of those.

• 40:55Laci Mosley?

  So a stage door Johnny, for olden time language, folks, is a man who frequents the theater for the purpose of courting an actress or a chorus girl. So basically, just like a thirsty groupie.

• 41:05Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, okay.

• 41:06Laci Mosley?

  Uh, so they be at the stage door, like, "Hey sis, love your performance. Uh, you trying to go down to the pub with me?"

• 41:12Speaker 05

  Yes. Thank you for telling me what that is, because there's this, there's this queen named Mr. Dan, who does this intro to shows at Casita Del Campo, where we see shows, and, and he, he always says, "Now, don't be a stage door Johnny hanging around after the show, darling." And I never knew what it was, but I was like, but now I understand the etymology, the, the reference. So thank you.

• 41:40Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Thank you. We love some historical references. So now we all know what it is when you real thirsty and waiting after the show. And that makes Okay, Arid, it's Arid out here, you know, the girls need, they need to be quenched, so.

• 41:53Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 41:54Laci Mosley?

  I also don't like that, I mean, obviously she knows this guy has questionable morals, so that's why she's roped him into this scam. But did you have to get my sis Mary some peeping hole creep? You could just find somebody on the street and be like, are you single? You trying to be with Mary? Like, you had to go get the nastiest man, the man who's sitting behind the peephole, probably don't watch Mary?

• 42:12Speaker 05

  Right.

• 42:13Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 42:13Speaker 05

  No, no, no, no.

• 42:14Laci Mosley?

  That's whack. So Madame Rachel also regularly blackmailed women who couldn't pay up front by offering them credit and later extorting them and pawning their jewels. Wow, she was a real criminal criminal. She's a bad lady. Rumors began to circulate about the malpractice intimidation and blackmail. At this point, Madame Rachel was making more than twenty thousand pounds, about twenty seven thousand US dollars a year, which is more than a million pounds or one point three million in US dollars today. So she's making bank. And she's shaking the girls down, she's pimping the girls out, she's exploiting all these innocent people. Um, and then I don't know why she didn't realize like she was gonna have to pick up and move at some point, like,

• 42:58Laci Mosley?

  people are gonna talk when everybody's missing a part of their face at the next function, you know? The next ball, when everybody's at the Bridgerton ball trying to get chose and half their face is gone, like you can think.

• 43:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, burned off. Oh, my God.

• 43:12Laci Mosley?

  Right, so getting caught. Inevitably, Madame Rachel ran into the law as numerous clients gathered cases of malpractice and intimidation. Some even accused her of providing abortion inducing drugs and running a brothel above her shop.

• 43:27Speaker 05

  Oh, my God. Okay, well, I mean, the brothel's fine.

• 43:32Laci Mosley?

  Right, Rachel didn't pick a lane for crime, she said, I'm gonna do all the crime.

• 43:36Speaker 05

  The whole freeway, I mean, it's hers.

• 43:39Laci Mosley?

  Rachel, when did you sleep? Like, when did you rest, sis? Like, you're doing so much crime.

• 43:45Speaker 05

  She's doing everything.

• 43:48Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I guess you gotta admire her for that, but she's a bad lady, but she worked very hard in the realm of crime, okay? No one worked harder. So she was prosecuted for fraud once in eighteen sixty-eight and again in eighteen seventy-eight, and she finally went to jail for five years after a retrial. So I wouldn't be surprised if Madame Rachel was breaking off Madame Coins to whoever was in the judicial system to keep her out of jail, because she was making bank.

• 44:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, probably, definitely.

• 44:13Laci Mosley?

  We all know the judicial system can be bought if you have the right amount of money.

• 44:17Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 44:18Laci Mosley?

  So, however, on her release, she reestablished herself as an Arabian perfumer to the Queen. So she got out of jail and went right back to it.

• 44:29Speaker 05

  To the Queen, she said, I'm going straight to the top, darling.

• 44:34Laci Mosley?

  Ain't nothing to it but to do it. And also, like, who's gonna stop her? Who's gonna really check with the Queen and be like, is this your perfumer?

• 44:41Speaker 05

  Right. Oh, my God, Madame Rachel.

• 44:46Laci Mosley?

  Madame Rachel is a bad lady and

• 44:49Speaker 05

  She's not nice.

• 44:51Laci Mosley?

  We do not endorse her on the podcast. She's still, how can I do evil every day? Like?

• 45:00Speaker 05

  How can I diversify my evil?

• 45:04Laci Mosley?

  We're looking to expand into other, you know, realms of evil. We want to be in every evil industry, uh, possible.

• 45:11Speaker 05

  I'm hurting people, but I'm not hurting people enough. How do I do it more?

• 45:18Laci Mosley?

  Right, it's just like, you know, no, I know we're in the black and we're really making a lot of money or, you know, hurting people, but I just think, I don't know, we could do more.

• 45:25Speaker 05

  Right.

• 45:27Laci Mosley?

  You know, I'm looking over here and I'm seeing worse guys hurting more people. I want to hurt, you know, efficiently.

• 45:32Speaker 05

  Right.

• 45:33Laci Mosley?

  Um, so she's a bad lady.

• 45:36Speaker 05

  Oh, my goodness. Sarah, Madame Rachel, no.

• 45:41Laci Mosley?

  Mm, mm, mm, no. And it's time for the saddest part, the end of the show, when I have to let Alaska Thunder Fuck go. But, uh, before we do that, we have one last little segment, Scammer of the Week. This is where we honor a charlatan who is maybe worthy of our praise, maybe not. Just have to see. Uh, obviously, Madame Rachel was not, uh, she was a criminal criminal. But today, we're talking about a skimmer of the week where a wedding with a bride and the groom were wedding crashers. And guys, you all tagged me in this so much. We saw, I got texts, I got emails, I got tagged on every platform, DM'd. And I was like, I got y'all, I got y'all. So we got two wedding crashers.

• 46:23Laci Mosley?

  Courtney Wilson and Shanita Jones invited their friends and family to their dream home and estate for their weekend wedding celebration. The ceremony Saturday and a brunch on Sunday. There's just one problem. The couple didn't own the sixteen thousand square foot mansion and didn't have permission to use it. Okay, small problems, minor details.

• 46:44Speaker 05

  Oh, my God, okay.

• 46:45Laci Mosley?

  Right, which I find so fun, like the the gall to send out wedding invitations and save the dates for a house you know you definitely do not own is beautiful.

• 46:56Speaker 05

  Yeah, okay. I want to know more. I just need to know more.

• 47:01Laci Mosley?

  The suburban Fort Lauderdale estate had everything, a bowling alley, a swimming pool with a waterfall, hot tub, tennis court, gazebo, and an eight hundred foot bar.

• 47:10Speaker 05

  Well, good.

• 47:13Laci Mosley?

  It's like if you need to drink and run a marathon.

• 47:15Speaker 05

  I love it. I like to have a variety of locations at a bar, so that's perfect.

• 47:22Laci Mosley?

  With which I can get drunk at.

• 47:26Laci Mosley?

  So Wilson said that it was God's plan that the couple marry there. Come on, God's plan, God's plan.

• 47:36Laci Mosley?

  Amen. They said God came to them in a dream and said, y'all need to get married up in here. Y'all nuptials in this house you don't own. Okay. So despite what the invitation inferred, the actual owner, Nathan Finkel, never gave them permission to hold their festivities there. He was stunned when Wilson showed up Saturday morning to set up and he called police, according to the South Florida Sun Sentinel. Uh, Finkel told a nine one one dispatcher, I have people trespassing on my property and they keep harassing me. They say they're having a wedding here and it's God's message. I don't know what's going on. All I want is for it to stop. And they're sitting at my property right now at the front gate. Nathan, you could have just let them have their wedding there. They already told you, God texted them and told them that they were supposed to have a function.

• 48:21Speaker 05

  I mean, it's kind of a great plan. It's like, we invited everyone, like, literally, everyone's coming. This is our dream wedding. And if you don't let us trespass on your home, you're gonna ruin our big day. It's sort of perfect. If that happened, like, I don't know who would be showing up to my house trying to have a wedding here, but if they did, I might be like, you know what? You guys have a good time. Use the 800 foot bar.

• 48:47Laci Mosley?

  Right. That one is using it today. I'm like, also Nathan Finkel, that sounds like such a hater name. Nathan Finkel, are you happy? Is you happy, honey? Like, we know you're not, okay? This could have been your moment. You could have gone viral. Y'all could have did some TikToks. And then next thing you know, everybody loves Nathan Finkel. This could have been your moment, but instead you decided to call 12 like a lame, like, they showed you the texts from Jesus and God saying this was supposed to happen. Like, you don't love God? What's wrong with you?

• 49:15Speaker 05

  God's plan.

• 49:16Laci Mosley?

  So two officers came and told Wilson he would have to leave. The couple left and no charges were filed. "I don't want to talk about it," said Wilson to the local paper. The homeowner, Nathan Finkel, I love that they took that quote. They said, Wilson, can you give us a quote? He said, no. And then they took the article and they said, so we asked for a quote and he said, no.

• 49:37Speaker 05

  I don't want to talk about it.

• 49:40Laci Mosley?

  Fair, fair. So the homeowner, Nathan Finkel, whose late father was an early IHOP restaurant franchisee, has been trying to sell the property for two years and now is listing it for just over five million. Wilson posed as a potential buyer and toured the estate several months ago. So that's how he got a tour of the estate. And he said, oh, I'm gonna have my wedding here.

• 50:00Speaker 05

  There it is.

• 50:02Laci Mosley?

  That's how he found the place. So Finkel's attorney said that guy figured that it was a vacant house and didn't realize that Nathan lived on the property in a different home. So he thought they, so this guy had no idea that Nathan lived there. And you know, the shock that must have been on his face when he showed up at the gate and the owner was home. Wow, okay, here's what I gotta say about this Nathan.

• 50:22Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 50:24Laci Mosley?

  You could have let these people have their wedding. This could have went viral, then you would have had a lot of eyes on the house. A lot of people would have been looking at that eight hundred foot bar like, oh, that's cute. And maybe some millionaires would have pulled up.

• 50:35Speaker 05

  I agree. I agree. At that moment, you just kind of have to let go and let God because you have to listen to God's advice. It could have gone really great and yeah, you're absolutely right.

• 50:49Laci Mosley?

  God said, these people are doing the electric slide on your property and today you should have said, amen.

• 50:56Laci Mosley?

  I don't know what to tell you, okay? Cause you could have got some great content out of this. Next thing we know, we see the house, we know, I guess you got a little viral, but you look like the hater here. Like, let them have their wedding.

• 51:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 51:07Laci Mosley?

  You know? And if you live on a property nearby, I don't want to be your neighbor, Nathan, you a hater, okay?

• 51:11Speaker 05

  Right, exactly, yeah.

• 51:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, a little too quick to call the cops too, like, oh, they're harassing me. Were they harassing you? If they're standing at the gate, that means they don't have a key, right? So couldn't you just been like, I'm not gonna let you in?

• 51:23Speaker 05

  What was their plan to get in though, I wonder?

• 51:26Laci Mosley?

  I mean, do you know how to throw a wedding cake over a fence?

• 51:30Speaker 05

  I did, you know, I've never done it. I've never done it. I, I would take it apart and go tier by tier.

• 51:36Laci Mosley?

  Hmm, that's wise. I think you gotta have one person climb over. Maybe you bring some rope and you lower it down slowly to the other side.

• 51:45Laci Mosley?

  I feel like this can be done. I feel like you can throw a whole wedding, uh, supplies over a fence and it could be cute.

• 51:51Speaker 05

  But then the family starts showing up. Then how am I supposed to get my gra- my grandmother over the fence? We'd have to figure out an option.

• 52:00Laci Mosley?

  Well, once one person's over the fence, we can then work and open the gates.

• 52:04Speaker 05

  Okay, okay, okay.

• 52:05Laci Mosley?

  Scale.

• 52:05Speaker 05

  All right, okay, okay.

• 52:07Laci Mosley?

  But some people's grandies are about that life, you know?

• 52:09Speaker 05

  You know, now that I think of it, Nana could do it.

• 52:12Laci Mosley?

  Right, and if Nana got life alert, what are we stressed about? You know, she falls, she can't get up, she just hit the little button, we're good.

• 52:19Speaker 05

  Exactly, uh.

• 52:21Laci Mosley?

  I see this going off without a hitch personally. I love touring the house, though, and then being like, mm, feel like God is telling me to have my wedding here.

• 52:32Speaker 05

  You know what? This is the place. This is it. This is it.

• 52:36Laci Mosley?

  Like Nathan thought that you were trying to buy the joint and you were like, mm, okay. And then we put the table over there. The DJ booth goes over there. Yeah, yeah, we toss the DJ booth over the fence. Okay.

• 52:45Speaker 05

  Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

• 52:48Laci Mosley?

  Wow. Well, I have to say I'm sorry to this couple that you didn't get to have your big day there. I hope you started a GoFundMe to maybe rent out a nice house for your wedding. I feel like people would contribute.

• 52:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, or a nice hall. Rent a hall.

• 53:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, Nathan could have compromised here. He could at least been like, y'all got some coins to have your wedding here? Like, make it work. The house is just sitting empty now. Come on.

• 53:12Speaker 05

  The invitations went out. I do feel for them because the guests are gonna show up and like weddings are stressful enough.

• 53:20Laci Mosley?

  Mm hmm. Oh, wow. Can you imagine like guests pulling up and there's just like cop cars and then you all have to leave the premises?

• 53:28Speaker 05

  Nathan's there just by himself. No, keep going. No, it's not here.

• 53:34Laci Mosley?

  Wow. Nathan, you could have been a hero and instead you were a hater. And we hate that for you. We do. But guys, that brings us to the end of another episode of Scam Goddess. Alaska, we always ask on the show, where do you want people to find you?

• 53:49Speaker 05

  Um, well, I have this beautiful mansion that I'm trying to sell and if you'd like to come check it out.

• 53:58Laci Mosley?

  No, I got a text from God.

• 54:01Speaker 05

  I'm on Instagram at the onlyalaska5000. So you can find me there or alaskathunderfuck.com. You can find me on there as well.

• 54:11Laci Mosley?

  So you can see all of Alaska's upcoming projects, including her special that is out right now.

• 54:18Speaker 05

  It is. It's on Out TV and Apple TV. And it's called Alaska Thunderfucks Extra Special Comedy Special. And I told you.

• 54:25Laci Mosley?

  Yes. And as always, [email protected]. Snitch on your friends and family. We welcome it. Just make sure that bag is retired. And if you want to find me and my shenanigans, D I V A L A C I D, Valacy on all platforms. The Black Lives Sketch Show, Season Two is out right now on HBO and HBO Max. So if you want to watch me scam my way into some characters on that show, pull up and stream or watch it Fridays 11:00 PM. Um, yes, guys, congregation, stay Schemin. Scam Goddess. Scam Goddess is starring me, duh. Scam Goddess, AKA Lacey Mosley. Scam Goddess is produced by Judith Cargill and engineered by Marina Baiz with research by Sherrilyn Vera. Stay Schemin.

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