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1:17 Speaker 03 Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Spencer Neuharth, and today we're joined by Randall, Seth, Corey, Max, Marge, and Logan. This is a 10-round quiz show with questions from Meat Eater's four verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking. There is a prize. Meat Eater will donate $500 to the conservation organization of the winners choosing. All right, we have a mailbag question today. If you have a mailbag question, send it to [email protected] with the subject line "Mailbag," and the crew will maybe answer it on a future episode. This is from Chuck Jennings. He says, "I'm moving this summer and am looking to buy my first gun cabinet. It's pretty overwhelming and a big investment.
1:59 Speaker 03 Do you have any brands or features you recommend looking for any advice?" Thoughts from the crew?
2:06 Speaker 04 Make sure it's big enough.
2:08 Speaker 03 Big enough. Uh, yeah, I would say the number one thing is that, uh, gun safe gun cabinet ratings are a lot like sleeping bags or tents. And that if it says it's rated for 20 guns, you're probably only getting 10 of them in there. 20 guns is like if they're all 22s without any optics and you don't keep any optics or any ammo or the other things that gun safes tend to collect. Um, so, so over shop, if Chuck has 12 guns, he's looking to protect, uh, maybe look for a 24 gun cabinet gun safe. Here's a question for you. Yes. Gun cabinet or gun safe? He says gun cabinet. My guess is he's using it interchangeably. Max pointed this out earlier when I told him this is a question would be answering a gun cabinet. It's like a wooden thing with glass doors. You can break into it real easy.
2:51 Steven Rinella? It could be metal, too, right?
2:51 Speaker 03 Okay.
2:52 Steven Rinella? A gun cabinet, a, a, a.
2:54 Speaker 03 It, it wouldn't be fireproof. Is that, is that how you would define it?
2:58 Steven Rinella? That's how I would define it. Uh, like if you buy a metal locker.
3:02 Speaker 03 Yes.
3:03 Steven Rinella? That's, I would call that a gun cabinet.
3:05 Speaker 04 Like what I'm stack on.
3:06 Steven Rinella? Yeah, exactly. Like, it's, it's like a steel box with a door.
3:11 Speaker 03 Yeah. Doesn't have a fire rating, doesn't have a flood.
3:13 Steven Rinella? And it's not heavy as sin.
3:16 Speaker 03 He says cabinet. My guess is he's in the market for a cabinet or a safe. So when you're giving Chuck your advice, Randall, uh, either one, what, what do you have for Chuck?
3:24 Steven Rinella? Man, I just think for the amount of money you'd spend on a gun safe, you could buy a few guns that you wouldn't mind getting stolen.
3:30 Speaker 03 Oh, okay. That's good perspective, actually.
3:34 Steven Rinella? I'll be honest, I've never imagined myself owning a gun safe just based on the, the sticker price.
3:40 Speaker 03 Okay.
3:41 Steven Rinella? Uh, to those, to those of you that own gun safes, more power to you. Um, I don't have a lot of sentimental attachment to my firearms. Not to say that I'm looking to lose them in a fire or a home invasion, but I just, there's, it would take a lot for me to think like, here's where I want to dump all this cash.
4:00 Speaker 03 Sure.
4:00 Steven Rinella? Um, on the other hand. People can't move safes. Uh, my buddy had a guy roll, or he had a crew of teens roll a gun locker full of guns out of his house.
4:13 Speaker 03 Wow.
4:13 Steven Rinella? Uh, into the back of a Honda Accord. You couldn't have done that with a gun safe.
4:18 Speaker 03 Did he get the gun cabinet back?
4:21 Steven Rinella? No, he got one of the guns back. I think I've told this story before. He got one of the guns back when it was released from, uh, the evidence hold in a homicide trial, but most of the guns probably went into, he was told that most of them probably went into a body of water because they were so obscure.
4:38 Speaker 03 Damn.
4:39 Steven Rinella? Yeah, like, eh, eh, just like, who's gonna commit a crime with a nine, three by seventy-two, you know? Um, I don't know. I just, I, gun lockers, like, buy them big, cause not only do you wanna fit the guns in there, you don't wanna have to move guns around to get a gun out.
4:57 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's super.
4:58 Steven Rinella? Right. It's just, the whole thing is bad.
5:00 Speaker 04 I would say if, if, if, he says he's moving, right?
5:03 Speaker 03 He's moving, so I think he's waiting until the move happens to figure out, yeah, he wants to, like, make sure it fits in his space.
5:09 Speaker 04 I was gonna say, maybe in his new house, he has like a closet or something that you can lock up and have like a little gun room.
5:16 Speaker 03 Sure.
5:16 Speaker 04 Rather than a gun cabinet.
5:18 Steven Rinella? Yeah, I think Hornady is making, um, components where you can build, you can like frame in.
5:25 Speaker 03 I love that.
5:26 Steven Rinella? A little locker in your closet and then put the door on it. I believe Hornady's doing that. But that's probably what I would do.
5:33 Speaker 04 Yeah.
5:34 Steven Rinella? My friend now, who had the locker stolen, he, he has a space under his stairs that he's made into a safe.
5:41 Speaker 03 Yeah, I, I have what you would define as a cabinet or a locker. Um, if a fire comes through my house, I don't think, like, my guns are gonna be in the top twenty-five things I'm thinking about, you know, after it's all set and done or while it's happening. So, uh, I'm, I'm just like, taking that risk that, uh, if a flood or a fire happens, uh, my guns are gone. Corey, Max, any, any advice for Chuck?
6:03 Speaker 05 And don't lose those keys. To have to break into.
6:07 Speaker 03 That'd be no fun. I'm still hung up on the safe versus cabinet thing. When I think of cabinet, I'm thinking of at my lake house. It's like the guns are presented really nicely, you know? But then a gun safe is like our safe in the kitchen here. You know, it's locked. You have to put multiple codes in there. We don't have a safe in the kitchen here.
6:27 Speaker 05 I also don't have a lake house.
6:29 Speaker 03 No, but that's what I'm saying. Like when I think of cabinet, I think of like really nice elegant wood. So.
6:36 Steven Rinella? Here's, here's one thought that I have when it comes to this stuff is I have a, I have a cabinet in my closet. But then I also just want to have a separate cabinet in my garage for guns that are just going in and out of my truck all the time.
6:50 Speaker 03 Okay.
6:50 Steven Rinella? Cause I end up just leaving a lot of guns laying around.
6:53 Speaker 03 Sure. I thought that was going to be your dummy cabinet.
6:55 Steven Rinella? No, no.
6:56 Speaker 03 Breaks in.
6:56 Steven Rinella? No, right now the dummy cabinet is just like a rifle on my reloading bench, a rifle sitting on top of my drawers, a rifle laying on a folding table. But I'd like to have two, one for the in and out and one for like the shotguns that I bring out once a year.
7:11 Speaker 03 Yeah. I, I like to know that you're not a gun safe man.
7:15 Steven Rinella? No, the other thing is I don't have enough room to lock up all of my guns when people with kids come over to our house. So then I spend an inordinate amount of time hiding them in places above six feet tall.
7:28 Speaker 03 And then you lose.
7:28 Steven Rinella? And then I can't remember where I put them.
7:30 Speaker 03 That's great.
7:31 Steven Rinella? So there's no right answer. You just got to know your own situation.
7:36 Speaker 03 Any other thoughts for Chuck before we move on?
7:38 Steven Rinella? Great question.
7:39 Speaker 05 Good luck Chuck.
7:40 Speaker 03 Uh, today's episode is brought to you by Mountain Dew. And thanks to them, you are getting some extra trivia this week between questions five and six today, we'll have two bonus questions again. And it's thanks to our friends at Mountain Dew. All right, the Shelby index for today is a five, so I'm putting us on perfect score alert. And with that, we're on to the game of trivia. Play the drop Phil.
8:02 Speaker 05 Not gonna happen for me today.
8:04 Speaker 06 Look, I need to know what I stand to win. Everything.
8:10 Speaker 06 Who's standing to win everything?
8:12 Speaker 04 What was that?
8:18 Speaker 03 Game on, suckers. Question one, the topic is hunting. This first great question is via Matt Henderson, and as always, it will be multiple choice. If a 410 shotgun followed the same naming pattern as the 12 and 20 gauge, then what would it be called? Is it the 25.8 gauge? The 40.1 gauge? The 67.5 gauge? Or 95.6 gauge?
8:48 Speaker 05 Wow, good question.
8:50 Speaker 03 If a 410 shotgun followed the same naming pattern as the 12 and 20 gauge, then what would it be called? The 25.8 gauge? 40.1? 67.5? 95.6? Randall, quick to answers, because you didn't, because you knew it, or because you didn't want to think about it too hard?
9:12 Steven Rinella? No. I, I, I've known this.
9:16 Speaker 03 Okay.
9:17 Steven Rinella? I'm not certain, uh, but it is something that I've looked into before.
9:23 Speaker 03 If a 410 followed the same naming logic as a 12 and 20 gauge, what would it be called? 25.8 gauge? 40.1? 67.5? 95.6?
9:37 Speaker 05 Makes me think about your punt gun episode coming out here any day now.
9:41 Steven Rinella? Oh, hoo hoo.
9:42 Speaker 03 That does come out later this week, and we address this exact thing in that episode. It's what made me think of this.
9:52 Speaker 03 Oh, only for you then. I have yet to see it. Okay. Max, have you watched it?
9:56 Speaker 05 I haven't, no. We filmed it, though.
9:58 Speaker 03 We filmed it.
9:58 Speaker 04 I haven't seen it.
9:59 Speaker 03 You'd get this one right. Oh, yeah. If you'd watched it.
10:02 Speaker 04 I just took a couple pictures of it.
10:03 Speaker 03 I still think the video of you and, uh, Max pulling the string together.
10:07 Speaker 05 It was very cute.
10:08 Speaker 03 Was really cute.
10:09 Speaker 04 Did that make it in? Dang it.
10:11 Speaker 03 No, it's on my cellphone.
10:11 Speaker 04 I got cut out, too.
10:13 Speaker 03 We'll do a behind the scenes look. Price possession of mine.
10:15 Speaker 05 I know, and I shoot 410s all the time.
10:18 Speaker 03 Is everybody ready?
10:19 Speaker 05 No.
10:20 Speaker 04 Yes.
10:23 Speaker 05 Sure.
10:23 Speaker 03 Maxwell, how many 410s do you own?
10:25 Speaker 05 I, I only need one.
10:27 Speaker 03 Okay.
10:28 Speaker 04 But how many do you own?
10:29 Speaker 05 One.
10:31 Speaker 04 I only need one rifle, but I got more than one.
10:34 Steven Rinella? Geez.
10:35 Speaker 05 Ah, yeah.
10:36 Steven Rinella? Tell me about it.
10:37 Speaker 03 Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says 25.8. Logan, 67.5. Randall, 67.5. Marge, 67.5. Corey, 67.5. Maximus, 25.8. The correct answer is 67.5.
11:01 Speaker 05 I want to, I want to hear about this.
11:03 Speaker 03 Well, I think four out of six.
11:05 Speaker 04 I think you and I were thinking the same thing.
11:06 Speaker 03 Got that one right.
11:07 Steven Rinella? Can I have that, uh?
11:08 Speaker 05 The wrong answer, yeah.
11:09 Speaker 03 A 12 gauge shotgun means it would take 12 solid lead balls, the exact size of the barrel's diameter, to get one pound. So, for a 410, that means it would take 67.5 lead balls that perfectly fit in the barrel to get one pound. The 410 name refers to the .410 inch bore diameter that the shotgun has. So if you took a lead ball that fit exactly in the end of a 12 gauge, 12 of those would make one pound of lead.
11:40 Speaker 05 Steve talks about this all the time.
11:41 Speaker 03 67.5. Question two, the topic is fishing. This panfish-inspired name is what bait shops often call small fat head minnows.
11:56 Speaker 03 This panfish-inspired name is what bait shops often call small fat head minnows.
12:02 Speaker 05 Alright, flip your boards, let's go. Minnows or minners?
12:07 Speaker 03 Either one.
12:07 Speaker 04 Depends what size of the, what size of the Mason Dixon you're on.
12:11 Speaker 03 Seth was just talking about getting a vending machine, maybe. And I told him he should put bait.
12:16 Speaker 04 Put minners in there?
12:17 Speaker 03 Yeah.
12:19 Speaker 03 This panfish-inspired name is what bait shops often call small fat head minnows.
12:25 Speaker 05 I like that vending machine idea though. It's like a, an
12:27 Speaker 03 Aquarium and then he's like, hit how many you want.
12:30 Speaker 04 Yeah.
12:30 Speaker 03 Just drop out of there. It serves us both in aquarium and a bait shop. These are a real thing, but usually it's like leeches and worms. Oh, yeah. Buying out of a bait vending machine. I don't think they have these. I'm thinking more of like a gumball machine. So it looks like a round aquarium. That's good too. Yeah.
12:48 Speaker 05 Comes out like.
12:48 Speaker 03 With the little spin, fish just goes down. Randall, do you have this one right?
12:53 Steven Rinella? Uh, no, I sort of thought about this question backwards and now I'm.
12:58 Speaker 03 Hmm.
12:59 Steven Rinella? Starting from scratch again.
13:00 Speaker 03 Max, do you have this one right? Okay. Very confident. Didn't even need to finish the question. He had his answer.
13:06 Speaker 04 How do you know this? Cause of Walleye Dan?
13:08 Speaker 05 Uh, no, just, I used to buy them all the time in high school.
13:10 Steven Rinella? At the lake house, you know?
13:12 Speaker 05 Yeah, my lake house with my gun cabinet.
13:14 Speaker 03 Good North Dakotin.
13:16 Speaker 05 Um, the sunnies are spawning at the local pond by my house.
13:19 Speaker 03 Oh, okay.
13:20 Speaker 05 That's really cool. Just, I mean, they're all just little dinks, but they're just running around, chasing each other and.
13:26 Speaker 03 So aggressive.
13:27 Speaker 05 Yeah, I haven't, I haven't fished for them yet.
13:29 Speaker 04 This, I was fishing largemouth this past weekend and the, the bluegill beds were where you were finding the largemouth.
13:38 Speaker 03 Hmm, yeah.
13:39 Speaker 04 Or close, close by the bluegill beds.
13:41 Speaker 03 I was just in Minnesota and it was like peak bluegill spawn there. Uh, and they were so wildly aggressive that they would like swim up to my paddle of my kayak and want to fight it. Despite it being, you know, 10x their size.
13:53 Speaker 04 I went through so many baits this weekend because of the fricking blue, but.
13:56 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
13:56 Speaker 04 Bluegills being aggressive.
13:58 Speaker 03 They'll grab a wacky worm. No problem. They'll like go after a frog on top water. Panfish inspired name is what bait shops often call small fat head minnows. Is everybody ready?
14:08 Speaker 04 No, hold on, hold on, hold on.
14:09 Speaker 05 I, I, I hope I'm right.
14:11 Speaker 03 We distracted Seth.
14:12 Speaker 05 Be very.
14:14 Speaker 04 Should know this.
14:15 Speaker 05 Very embarrassing.
14:15 Speaker 04 I'll fish with minnows hardly ever though.
14:17 Steven Rinella? Panfish inspired.
14:19 Speaker 03 This panfish inspired name is what bait shops often call small fat head minnows.
14:29 Speaker 03 Max isn't sure if he has it right.
14:30 Speaker 05 No, I'm pretty sure.
14:32 Speaker 03 Okay, pretty sure. Corey, do you like your answer?
14:35 Speaker 04 I love my answer.
14:36 Speaker 03 Okay. Seth, Randall, you boys ready?
14:40 Steven Rinella? Uh, sure.
14:42 Speaker 03 Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says brim.
14:46 Speaker 04 Oh.
14:47 Speaker 03 Logan, shiners. Randall, crappy chub. Uh, Marge, without an answer. Corey says brimmos, that's a great name. Uh, Maxwell says croppy. The correct answer is crappy minnows.
15:01 Speaker 04 Really?
15:02 Speaker 03 Um, so I think Max we would give it to, but if I give it to Max, then I need to give it to Randall.
15:08 Speaker 05 A chub and a minnow is different.
15:10 Steven Rinella? Mine is closer.
15:12 Speaker 04 Why? What did you have?
15:13 Steven Rinella? Croppy chub.
15:14 Speaker 03 It's a crappy minnow.
15:17 Steven Rinella? I would say no one gets it.
15:18 Speaker 03 I'd say either, either you both are getting it, you're, neither one of you are going to get it.
15:22 Speaker 05 Well, here's, here's my thought. What do you call the other style of minnow? The other minnow?
15:28 Speaker 03 Well, that's just be a fat head minnow, or I think maybe somebody people would call them a walleye minnow if you're in Minnesota or a bass minnow.
15:35 Steven Rinella? Let's give it to Max. Let's give it to Max.
15:37 Speaker 05 I would give it to Randall, he was close.
15:38 Steven Rinella? Let's give it to Max, don't give it to me.
15:40 Speaker 03 Okay, I like that ruling. Uh, Maxwell gets that right. They are crappy minnows. Crappy minnows are simply smaller minnows which are likely females or immature males. Bait shops will often sort their fat heads into two sizes with crappy minnows being the shorter of the two. As the name implies, crappy minnows are small enough to fit in the mouth of croppy and other panfish. Here is a picture of a male versus a female fat head minnow.
16:09 Speaker 05 Hmm.
16:09 Speaker 03 Uh, on the top, that would be your traditional fat head minnow, uh, and on the bottom would be a crappy minnow. Seth, does that now sound familiar now that you've heard it?
16:19 Steven Rinella? I, no, I never.
16:20 Speaker 03 Okay.
16:20 Speaker 05 Who likes?
16:21 Steven Rinella? Creek chubs.
16:23 Speaker 05 Creek chubs.
16:23 Steven Rinella? That's a good fish.
16:24 Speaker 05 Randall's like, Max isn't gonna win this game, so might as well just give him a point.
16:27 Steven Rinella? Yeah, it's a little insulting, Max. I thought mine was not close. I, I, in second thought, I thought, you know, does say minnows in the question. That's kinda what I thought. It was implied it was a minnow. Yeah, so, good for you, Max.
16:39 Speaker 03 Question three, the topic is wildlife. This next great question is via Joshua Banks.
16:44 Speaker 04 Heartwarming.
16:45 Speaker 03 This animal with a colorful name is Africa's longest venomous snake.
16:57 Speaker 03 Hmm. The room has gone quiet. This animal with a colorful name is Africa's longest venomous snake.
17:08 Speaker 04 Kind of a bone for somebody who's just. Seth, you were just over there.
17:12 Steven Rinella? But he didn't like it and he won't go back.
17:15 Speaker 03 He didn't like it, maybe because of this colorful snake. This animal with a colorful name is Africa's longest venomous snake. Randall, do you have this one right?
17:29 Steven Rinella? I don't know. It's good a venomous snake in Africa.
17:31 Speaker 03 Hmm.
17:32 Steven Rinella? Um.
17:33 Speaker 04 It's a colorful name?
17:37 Steven Rinella? That's the question.
17:38 Speaker 03 Hmm.
17:38 Steven Rinella? Could that be open to interpretation?
17:40 Speaker 03 Don't know.
17:41 Speaker 04 No.
17:42 Speaker 03 Marge is doing some erasing. Corey, do you have this one right? Man, I sure hope so. This animal with a colorful name is Africa's longest venomous snake.
17:55 Steven Rinella? Let me ask you a question.
17:56 Speaker 03 Hmm.
17:59 Speaker 04 No.
18:01 Speaker 03 I'm not gonna answer it, so.
18:03 Speaker 04 What's the question?
18:04 Speaker 03 You can, you can ask if you'd like.
18:05 Speaker 04 If it's gonna give everyone a hint.
18:07 Speaker 03 I think I'm just gonna say no, though.
18:10 Steven Rinella? Would a real, would a real hoop head?
18:14 Steven Rinella? Like this answer?
18:15 Speaker 03 Uh, I'm not going to give you any. Oh. That's clever. Does that help you out, Corey? I think I know. I saw what he's stepping in.
18:25 Speaker 04 Yeah. I don't.
18:26 Speaker 03 Oh, and Max.
18:27 Speaker 04 It's a hoop head.
18:29 Speaker 03 A real hoop head. Would a real hoopel head get this one right? Mm-hmm. Hoopel head is in Deadwood, uh, what they would call, maybe if you were gonna call someone a really mean name, you know, that started with like an F, instead you'd call them a hoopel head.
18:46 Speaker 03 In Deadwood, the show.
18:47 Steven Rinella? What's the meaning?
18:49 Speaker 03 I don't know, just like, uh, silly goose, same thing, you're just calling him something mean, but like in a more western quirky way.
18:58 Speaker 04 Oh, oh, Mike just got unplugged.
19:00 Steven Rinella? I, I.
19:01 Speaker 04 Randall, your mic is unplugged.
19:03 Speaker 03 We won't hear from Randall the rest of the episode now.
19:06 Steven Rinella? Come in, Phil.
19:06 Speaker 04 We've got you back.
19:08 Steven Rinella? Okay.
19:08 Speaker 04 You can just tighten some connections over there for me, that'd be great.
19:11 Steven Rinella? Yeah.
19:11 Speaker 03 This animal with a colorful name is Africa's longest venomous snake. Is everybody ready?
19:18 Speaker 05 It's like this.
19:19 Speaker 03 It looks like that. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth, Black Mamba. Logan, Black Mamba. Logan, Black Mamba. Marge, without an answer. Corey, Black Mamba. Maxwell, without an answer. The correct answer is the Black Mamba.
19:35 Speaker 04 I drew a Black Mamba.
19:38 Speaker 05 I thought he said draw a picture of the.
19:40 Speaker 03 Yeah, uh, and as Randall referred to, that was Kobe Bryant's nickname.
19:45 Steven Rinella? Yeah, it throws me off when you use colorful.
19:49 Speaker 05 Yeah.
19:49 Speaker 03 Colorful in like, if you were in an art store.
19:52 Steven Rinella? In other questions, you said black.
19:54 Speaker 04 Randall, we lost your mic again.
19:57 Speaker 03 Well, we're just not gonna.
19:58 Steven Rinella? Maybe it's, can you hear me?
20:00 Speaker 04 I'll come over there during the next question and try to finagle.
20:02 Speaker 05 See colorful, but.
20:04 Speaker 04 It's gone again.
20:06 Speaker 05 That, that, but.
20:07 Speaker 04 Why's your color?
20:08 Speaker 05 That doesn't mean colorful though.
20:10 Speaker 04 But it's a color. It is a color.
20:11 Speaker 05 But it's one color. Colorful implies colors.
20:14 Speaker 04 I know. There's kind of some.
20:15 Speaker 03 That's a colorful name. The funny thing is, a Black Mamba's not even black. They're like olivey or dark green.
20:23 Steven Rinella? Am I back, Phil?
20:24 Speaker 04 You're back. Just, just try not to touch it.
20:26 Steven Rinella? I'm not gonna touch it at all.
20:27 Speaker 03 Measuring over fourteen feet long, the Black Mamba is second only to the King Cobra as the world's longest venomous snake. It's also one of the planet's fastest snakes, reaching twelve miles per hour in short bursts. Untreated, humans have a ninety-five percent mortality rate when bitten by a Black Mamba. But if antivenom is quickly administered, fatality rates drop below ten percent. Seth, did you guys see any Black Mambas?
20:54 Speaker 04 I wish they would've told us that when we were there. It's kind of like, if you get bit, you're dead.
20:58 Speaker 05 Yeah.
20:58 Speaker 03 Yes.
20:59 Speaker 04 Um, I didn't see any, cause you know, I was in car two, but, um. The dudes in car one saw saw one.
21:07 Speaker 03 Didn't they see them one like going the speed of the car?
21:09 Speaker 04 Well, they came they came around a corner and there was one in the road trying to get get away. But it then it turned and like came up kind of over the over the hood of the vehicle. And then scared it off. Did they film it? No. Dirt was on the roof of the truck. Trying to get away. As the snake was coming up over the.
21:32 Speaker 03 Max's drawing was pretty good because I think it's like over half their body they can get in the air.
21:36 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:37 Speaker 03 They're on the move.
21:37 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:38 Speaker 05 Sorry, erased it.
21:39 Steven Rinella? Saw rattlesnake this weekend. I didn't like that.
21:41 Speaker 03 No, thank you.
21:42 Speaker 05 I don't like snakes.
21:43 Steven Rinella? Spooky.
21:43 Speaker 03 Question for the topic is public lands. It was revealed in a 2022 lawsuit that this man's treasure was found in Yellowstone National Park.
21:57 Speaker 04 Last name, just last name?
21:59 Speaker 03 Last name will suffice. I respect the jeopardy rules.
22:02 Speaker 04 Two points for both names.
22:03 Speaker 03 When it comes to last name. It was revealed in a 2022 lawsuit that this man's treasure was found in Yellowstone National Park. Phil the engineer is now on the scene.
22:16 Steven Rinella? What a guy.
22:17 Speaker 04 Yeah. Sounds good. Mess with the other one. I think the other one was the one that was causing the issue.
22:24 Steven Rinella? Yeah. I think it was probably in there because what I did to mess it up is I moved the microphone arm down.
22:33 Steven Rinella? So I think Phil fixed it brilliantly. He saw what the issue was and everything's better now.
22:39 Speaker 03 That's why they call him Phil the engineer. It was revealed in a 2022 lawsuit that this man's treasure was found in Yellowstone National Park.
22:48 Speaker 05 I remember hearing about this, but.
22:51 Speaker 04 You should go watch the doc on it. I did watch the doc and I can't.
22:55 Speaker 03 I know exactly what you're talking about.
22:56 Steven Rinella? Or the Meat Eater podcast episode. Yeah.
23:00 Speaker 03 Or read any of my articles. I know. I was like, Spencer was obsessed with this for a while. 2019 and 2022.
23:06 Speaker 04 Did you ever go look for it?
23:07 Speaker 03 Uh, I mildly looked for it. So I, they're like, they were like.
23:12 Speaker 04 Were you close at all?
23:12 Speaker 03 I was close. Yeah. My best guess was that it was by Gardner. Um, I thought it would actually be in the Custer National Forest right outside, based on some clues. He talks about, um, the House of Brown.
23:23 Speaker 04 Yeah.
23:24 Speaker 03 And he talks about the river on fire, which I thought would have been the boiling river. Uh, Yankee Jim Canyon, I thought was part of the solve. We, we could talk about it after. So I would like kind of plan rock hounding, fishing, hunting trips in the area. And, you know, maybe just like look behind the logs or like, you know, walk over to this creek to look at the, the stream bed, just in case it was there. So I, I would say I was a, a hunter of this treasure. Gosh, I can't think of it.
23:52 Speaker 05 I can't either.
23:53 Speaker 03 I wrote, I then wrote after, after it was revealed that it was found, they didn't reveal the location until a few years later. Um, in the weeks after it was found, I wrote an article on our website saying, these are the four places I think it could be. Uh, and one of the four that I named was Yellowstone National Park. So I was satisfied.
24:11 Speaker 04 That's cool.
24:12 Speaker 03 That I had that part. Is everybody ready? It was revealed in a 2022 lawsuit that this man's treasure was found in Yellowstone National Park. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says Finn, uh, Logan, Forrest Fenn. We'll give it to you Seth. Randall says Forrest Fenn. Marge, without an answer. Corey, Forrest Fenn. Maxwell says Captain Jack Sparrow. The correct answer was Forrest Fenn.
24:37 Speaker 05 Gosh.
24:39 Speaker 03 The hunt started in 2010 after Forrest Fenn left a series of clues about his treasure's location in a 24 line poem. The stash was found by Jack Stuff a decade later in 2020, who spent 25 days scouring the area before finding the chest. It wasn't until two years later that it was revealed that the treasure was found in Yellowstone, which came out in court documents via a lawsuit against Fenn. Apparently after the treasure was found, Fenn told a park ranger of its location, asking if the spot could handle extra foot traffic from tourists. The park ranger determined that was a bad idea, so no exact location has been revealed.
25:19 Speaker 03 But there's some agreement in the treasure hunting community that it was hidden at Nine Mile Hole on the Madison River. So you can find Nine Mile Hole in Madison River. It's not that far of a walk. Then you will be in the vicinity of where the Forrest Fenn treasure was found. And the founder, he said that he used the 24 line poem, but then also there were some media interviews done later by Forrest Fenn. Uh, and it was a clue that was given in one of those, uh, media interviews that Jack Stuff said he picked up on that no one else did, which led him to the treasure.
25:53 Steven Rinella? His name's Jack Stuff?
25:54 Speaker 03 S T U E F. Um, Google says you pronounce it Stuff. I would have guessed it was Stuith.
26:01 Steven Rinella? Yeah.
26:01 Speaker 03 But online says Stuff. Question five, the topic is conservation. A rhino poacher won this award in 2019, which is given to those who quote, "improve the gene pool by eliminating themselves from it in an obviously stupid way."
26:21 Speaker 03 Uh, the word "award" is in quotation marks in my question. A rhino poacher won this award in 2019, which is given to those who improve the gene pool by eliminating themselves from it in an obviously stupid way. Randall, the only player with an answer. Do you have this right, Randall?
26:44 Steven Rinella? I do. I do.
26:48 Steven Rinella? Big fan.
26:49 Speaker 03 I've tried hounding Jack Stuff to just do an interview with us. I don't know. Give me five minutes on the phone. Uh, he won't do it. He's determined to just like be as anonymous as possible. I even bid on some of the treasure. What Jack did is he took everything and he pieced it up into like 200 different things. The treasure was valued to be worth like $2 million. He then sold it through an auction house. I bid on some of the gold dust that was in the treasure, uh, but came up well, well short of what the seller.
27:17 Steven Rinella? How much did he get for it?
27:18 Speaker 03 I don't remember now. The gold dust, I think I bid up to like a hundred dollars and I think, I don't think anything in there went for less than a grand. So.
27:26 Steven Rinella? Did he get two mil?
27:28 Speaker 03 He went way beyond two mil.
27:29 Steven Rinella? Oh, nice.
27:30 Speaker 03 And then he kept a couple of pieces for himself. Um, he was fully dedicated. Like he retired. He was, I think only in his late twenties. He quit his job to look, look for the treasure and then he found it.
27:40 Steven Rinella? Gosh, I should have done that.
27:43 Speaker 04 You weren't that far away.
27:44 Speaker 03 But then I wouldn't be here right now.
27:45 Steven Rinella? That's right.
27:46 Speaker 03 Winning that trivia.
27:47 Steven Rinella? If you have a lake house.
27:49 Speaker 03 I would have a couple of lake houses.
27:50 Speaker 04 With a gun cabinet.
27:52 Steven Rinella? A couple of really nice gun cabinets.
27:54 Speaker 03 Really nice four tents. Again, we're on question five. The topic is conservation. A rhino poacher won this award in 2019, which is given to those who, quote, "improve the gene pool by eliminating themselves from it in an obviously stupid way."
28:11 Speaker 04 I have no idea.
28:13 Speaker 03 Does everybody give up?
28:15 Steven Rinella? Yeah.
28:15 Speaker 03 Rhino poacher. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says Darwin Award. Logan, Charles Darwin. Randall, Darwin Award. Marge, without an answer. Corey says the Dundies. Uh, Max, without an answer. The correct answer is the Darwin Award. Uh, so Logan, we'll give that to you.
28:34 Steven Rinella? Oh, yeah.
28:36 Speaker 03 Wendy Northcutt has been handing out Darwin Awards since 1992. The honor is given to those who show evolution in action by doing something idiotic that results in death or sterilization. One of the five winners in 2019 was a rhino poacher who was trampled by an elephant, then eaten by a lion. 2018 featured a winner who was killed by a bear he tried taking a selfie with. And 2020 had a winner who died while looking for Forrest Fenn's treasure. The awards are named after Charles Darwin, who's known as the father of evolution.
29:11 Speaker 04 Did the previous question inspire this question?
29:13 Speaker 03 Yes, how's that for a throwback?
29:14 Speaker 04 That was great.
29:15 Speaker 03 Good call back.
29:15 Steven Rinella? That's really good.
29:16 Speaker 04 Masterful.
29:17 Speaker 03 All right, we're halfway through today's game of trivia. Phil, give us a scoreboard update.
29:23 Speaker 04 Everybody is on the board. Max and Maggie, however, only have one point. Okay. It's why we share an office, you know? For themselves. Share an office and a brain cell. Uh, we've got Seth and Corey up next with three points apiece.
29:37 Speaker 03 Tight up in first place, Aranda Williams and hey, it's Logan Dove. Logan, welcome to the leaderboard. Four points. Do you know what your high score in a game is, Logan? Do you have a guess as to what it would be?
29:48 Speaker 05 Uh, I think five is like the most I've ever gotten.
29:50 Speaker 03 Okay.
29:50 Speaker 05 And that might have been in like the, like the losers bracket.
29:53 Speaker 03 Mmm, that's your only term.
29:55 Speaker 05 That's surprising. I feel like you, I feel like you're a strong competitor.
30:01 Speaker 03 Random believes in you.
30:02 Speaker 05 Wide ranging knowledge.
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33:08 Speaker 03 All right, and now it's time for our Mountain Dew Questions of the Week. Thanks to Mountain Dew, you get some bonus trivia in this week's episode. This does not count towards your score, it's just for bragging rights. Here they are. Question one for Mountain Dew's Questions of the Week. The topic is public lands. Mountain Dew was created in Tennessee, just outside of what national park?
33:34 Speaker 03 We've got this question, and then we've got one more after this. The Mountain Dew Questions of the Week. Mountain Dew was created in Tennessee, just outside of what national park?
33:51 Speaker 05 Does it say on the box?
33:52 Speaker 03 Um, I don't think it says.
33:54 Steven Rinella? No.
33:55 Speaker 03 On the American Dew box. Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says Daniel Boone. Logan, without an answer, Randall says Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Marge, Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Corey and Max say Great Smoky Mountains National Park. They got it. The correct answer is Great Smoky Mountains National Park.
34:20 Speaker 05 I didn't have mountains, but I had Great Smoky.
34:22 Speaker 03 Mountain Dew born just outside.
34:25 Steven Rinella? Remember, this doesn't count.
34:26 Speaker 03 Park. Our second Mountain Dew question of the week. The topic is Mountain Men. What mountain man was captured by pirates and the Pawnee before becoming a trapper? And it's multiple choice. Is it Hugh Glass, Jim Beckworth, or Jim Bridger?
34:46 Speaker 03 This is the Mountain Dew Mountain Man question of the week. What mountain man was captured by pirates and the Pawnee before becoming a trapper? Hugh Glass, Jim Beckworth, or Jim Bridger?
35:00 Speaker 04 You know, I was just kind of assumed like a lot of the stuff in Parks and Recreation was just like made up. But like Pawnee Indians are apparently a thing.
35:06 Speaker 03 That's a real thing.
35:09 Speaker 03 And they captured this person.
35:12 Speaker 03 Is everybody ready?
35:13 Steven Rinella? Most of the rest of that show is made up.
35:15 Speaker 03 Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says Beckworth, Logan, Hugh Glass, Randall. Hugh Glass, Marge, Jim Beckworth. Corey and Max say Hugh Glass. They got it. The correct answer is Hugh Glass.
35:30 Steven Rinella? Those don't count.
35:31 Speaker 03 And Hugh Glass lived such an interesting life. They described him as the forest, uh, what? The Forrest Gump of mountain men, right, Randall?
35:38 Steven Rinella? I haven't heard that, but it makes sense.
35:40 Speaker 03 Okay. He was just all over the continent, doing all kinds of crazy stuff.
35:43 Steven Rinella? In the Mountain Men audiobook, we described Jim Bridger as the Forrest Gump of the American West.
35:50 Speaker 03 Well, maybe I have that. Maybe that's what I'm thinking.
35:52 Steven Rinella? But I think Hugh Glass is maybe a better case.
35:55 Speaker 03 Bridger didn't spend any time with pirates?
35:57 Steven Rinella? I know Bridger's later life, though, he's just involved. He's like involved in the Mormon wars and, and overland travel and all that stuff, but.
36:07 Steven Rinella? Yeah, glass is a real interesting, real interesting case.
36:10 Speaker 03 Those were the Mountain Dew Questions of the Week. Enjoy the refreshing citrus kick of Mountain Dew, an American original tasting great since 48. Look for American Dew limited time packaging in stores today.
36:22 Speaker 05 I like that rhyme.
36:24 Speaker 03 Question six. The topic is wildlife. This is our listener question of the week, which was won by Adam Smith for sending this great question. Adam is going to get a $150 first light gift card. If you want a chance to win the listener question of the week, then send your question to [email protected] . This seven-letter gland is defined as, quote, "the specialized organ that produces milk in mammals."
36:53 Speaker 05 Couple of new and incoming dads knew about this one.
36:56 Speaker 03 Okay, maybe.
36:57 Speaker 05 Yeah, maybe.
36:58 Speaker 03 Maxwell, do you have seven letters?
37:00 Speaker 05 Yeah.
37:01 Speaker 03 Okay, he was just at a baby appointment recently. It should help him with today's question. This seven-letter gland is defined as "the specialized organ that produces milk in mammals." Corey, do you have this one right?
37:16 Speaker 05 I don't think I spelled it correctly, but you're gonna get it.
37:18 Speaker 03 Okay.
37:19 Speaker 05 Yeah.
37:21 Speaker 05 Is it that letter?
37:22 Speaker 03 Is everybody ready?
37:23 Speaker 04 Eh, don't matter.
37:26 Speaker 03 Marge, are you drawing something for us?
37:30 Speaker 03 Or are you writing an answer? I can't tell. Marge doesn't doodle in that.
37:34 Steven Rinella? She's drawing, but it's a moo cow.
37:38 Speaker 05 It's not what you guys think.
37:39 Speaker 03 Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth, mammary. Logan, lactate. Randall, mammary. I forgot. Marge, mammary. Corey says mammary. Maxwell, mammary. The correct answer is mammary gland. The spelling, M-A-M-M-A-R-Y.
38:03 Speaker 05 Beautiful.
38:05 Speaker 04 There was three different spellings, I think.
38:08 Speaker 03 Which one did you land on? Was it correct?
38:09 Speaker 04 No, no, it wasn't correct.
38:11 Speaker 03 Mammary glands are what make a mammal a mammal. In most male mammals, the mammary glands are underdeveloped and unused, but some species of bat have males that lactate and produce milk for offspring. The same phenomenon has been occasionally witnessed in goats. Hmm. Question seven, the topic is hunting. This next great question is via Nathan Decen. This man who died at the Battle of Little Big Horn, once accidentally shot his horse while, while hunting bison.
38:44 Speaker 03 This man who died at the Battle of Little Big Horn, once accidentally shot his horse while hunting bison.
38:54 Speaker 03 Seth, Corey, Randall.
38:56 Steven Rinella? I can't name them all, but I'm, I'm willing to guess that there were multiple combatants that day that had done this exact thing.
39:03 Speaker 03 That you think they shot their horse while hunting bison and they died at the Battle of Little Big Horn?
39:09 Steven Rinella? Yeah.
39:09 Speaker 03 Okay. Yeah. If you could, if you could find me some other examples.
39:11 Steven Rinella? It's like getting into a fender bender.
39:16 Speaker 04 This is like. Fairly common. Do you have experience with this?
39:19 Steven Rinella? Yeah. If you spend your life as an equestrian bison hunter, I feel like at some point you're going to accidentally shoot your horse.
39:26 Speaker 03 And die at the Battle of Little Big Horn.
39:28 Steven Rinella? Yeah.
39:29 Speaker 05 You know how some people use horses to hunt antelope?
39:31 Steven Rinella? Mm hmm.
39:31 Speaker 05 Was that what they were doing? Same thing? Hiding behind the horses?
39:34 Speaker 03 We'll talk about it in the flavor text.
39:36 Speaker 04 It's kind of like when someone actually shoots their rifle through the floor of their car.
39:40 Steven Rinella? Yeah.
39:41 Speaker 03 Yeah, shoots a toe off.
39:42 Steven Rinella? But I would guess that this is more common.
39:45 Speaker 03 Hmm.
39:46 Steven Rinella? I don't know. I feel like I'd be shooting my horse all the time.
39:50 Speaker 03 Yeah. This man who died at the Battle of Little Big Horn.
39:54 Steven Rinella? How often do you accidentally honk your horn?
39:57 Speaker 03 Yeah, Randall be changing horses like he changes his underwear.
40:01 Steven Rinella? Every other week.
40:01 Speaker 03 Once or twice a year.
40:06 Speaker 03 Is everybody ready?
40:09 Speaker 03 Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says Custer. Logan without an answer. Randall says Custer. Marge without an answer. Corey and Maxwell say General Custer. The correct answer is George Custer. Although you could probably find someone else who fits this criteria and I'll give you that point if you're able to. Custer told the story in his 1887 book, My Life on the Plains. He was riding his favorite horse Custis Lee while hunting antelope with his five greyhounds on the Kansas prairie. The antelope were losing him when Custer spotted a big bison. He then pursued the bull and after a three mile chase, Custer readied his revolver.
40:51 Speaker 03 But just as he pulled the trigger, the buffalo swerved into Custer's horse, sending the bullet right into Custis Lee's head. The horse died instantly and the bison got away. Here's a picture Phil has of General Custer. This was three years before his last stand. This was a bull that he killed by Yellowstone. A whopper of a five point bull.
41:13 Speaker 04 The anniversary is coming up of the battle.
41:15 Speaker 03 That's your anniversary, right? Yeah. Yeah. Good for you Seth. Now you'll never forget the battle of Little Big Horn.
41:22 Speaker 04 Yeah, that Steve did, of course.
41:24 Speaker 05 That was pretty funny.
41:26 Speaker 03 Question eight, the topic is fishing. This dental term refers to the controversial fishing technique where anglers try to swing a leader into the mouth of a salmon that's swimming upstream. Maxwell, Randall, Seth already have their answer. This dental term refers to the controversial fishing technique where anglers try to swing a leader into the mouth of a salmon that's swimming upstream. Randall, have you ever participated in this?
42:01 Steven Rinella? Root canal.
42:02 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
42:03 Speaker 03 You have, okay? Did you feel okay about it?
42:06 Steven Rinella? I mean, I don't. Like for sockeye, you really need to do this.
42:15 Speaker 03 The only way.
42:17 Steven Rinella? Uh, I've, I was never good at it. Uh, terrible sockeye fishermen. Uh, much to my dismay because they're very tasty. But yeah, I mean, guys that are good at this are just.
42:30 Speaker 03 Yeah, when you see people doing it, it's easy to understand like how somebody could be good or bad at it. Like it's a very specific technique.
42:38 Speaker 05 Will you make that noise again?
42:41 Speaker 03 This dental term refers to the controversial fishing technique where anglers try to swing a leader into the mouth of a salmon that's swimming upstream.
42:53 Speaker 03 Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth and Logan and Randall say flossing. I guess. Marge says flossing. Corey says snagging. Maxwell says flossing.
43:07 Steven Rinella? Very different.
43:09 Speaker 03 The correct answer is flossing.
43:10 Speaker 05 Some people consider it snagging though.
43:12 Speaker 04 I mean, that's what I call it.
43:13 Speaker 03 Salmon flossing is also known as flipping. It's where anglers use a weighted leader that's drifted through the path of sockeye salmon. When it works, the current pulls the line through the fish's mouth until the hook reaches its jaw. Fish caught while flossing aren't biting the hook. Instead, it's more like snagging them in the mouth. Flossing is illegal in Washington, Oregon, California, and Idaho, but Alaska does allow it.
43:38 Speaker 05 I thought they put a bead there too. And the fish like goes for the bead and then.
43:43 Speaker 03 Hmm, I don't think there's any illusion.
43:45 Steven Rinella? No, they're not. They're not.
43:46 Speaker 03 Pursuing a bait.
43:47 Steven Rinella? Yeah, they're not really going for it at all. You're literally trying to just get them in front of the gill plate.
43:52 Speaker 05 Yeah.
43:52 Speaker 03 Okay. So my picture is in. Like the line is like kinda literally passing through their mouth, right? Yeah, until the hook reaches.
43:58 Steven Rinella? Yeah, cuz sockeye really, I mean, it's hard to say. Because I've had, I've caught sockeye on like big
44:05 Steven Rinella? plugs before that they actually hit, but for the most part, the conventional wisdom is that they're not gonna bite anything.
44:11 Speaker 03 Again, like almost the entire PNW says, no, you cannot do that, uh, but Alaska allows it. I feel like you see videos where dudes are like as close as Max is to Logan away. Yeah. And they're flossing in a, in a river. All right, we have two questions left. Phil, give us a scoreboard update.
44:29 Speaker 05 Come back, baby.
44:30 Speaker 04 Standings have changed a bit.
44:33 Speaker 04 Marge has three points. Max has four. And we have Logan and Corey tied up with five. Logan seems like has tied his previous high score.
44:43 Speaker 03 Hell, yeah.
44:44 Speaker 05 I think we should count those Mountain Dew questions.
44:46 Speaker 04 We didn't count them. Seth has pulled ahead with, uh, he's got six points and then Dr. Randall is in first place with seven.
44:54 Steven Rinella? Seth's going for a back-to-back win after poorly officiated game of trivia last week. That was a great game. Well, there's some doubts.
45:03 Speaker 03 Hmm. Question nine, the topic is gear. This next great question is via Brian Nistley. Jim Crumley sold the tree bark camel pattern to this brand in 2000.
45:20 Speaker 03 Jim Crumley sold the tree bark camo pattern to this brand in 2000.
45:32 Speaker 03 Max is making eyes at Seth. Do you two like your answers?
45:37 Speaker 05 I don't know.
45:39 Speaker 05 Hmm, let's see here Seth.
45:41 Steven Rinella? I'll show you when he says flip them.
45:44 Speaker 03 Randall, do you have this one right?
45:46 Speaker 04 I don't know.
45:47 Speaker 03 Okay, Seth seems to like his, Seth, do you have this one right?
45:51 Steven Rinella? I'm in the neighborhood.
45:52 Speaker 04 I think I'm, I think I'm 50/50.
45:54 Speaker 03 Okay, this could even things up.
45:55 Speaker 05 Yeah, I just thought of one right there.
45:56 Speaker 03 Seth gets it right and Randall gets it wrong.
45:58 Steven Rinella? I'm in the neighborhood, geez.
46:00 Speaker 03 Jim Crumley sold the tree bark camo pattern to this brand in 2000.
46:05 Speaker 05 What's one?
46:07 Steven Rinella? Oh, Jim Crumley, I thought you said Jim Brumley.
46:13 Steven Rinella? It's all very valuable context.
46:14 Speaker 03 Which is, yeah, which is who. Jim Crumley seems like a man who would invent the tree bark camel pattern.
46:21 Steven Rinella? That's a great name.
46:22 Speaker 04 Old Crumley. Old Man Crumley.
46:27 Speaker 04 Old Man Crumley.
46:28 Steven Rinella? I hope a guy named Jim Crumley cashed out and retired after this.
46:33 Speaker 03 Is everybody ready?
46:34 Speaker 04 I wonder if he's still alive?
46:36 Speaker 03 Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says Realtree, Logan, Deep Timber, Randall, Mossy Oak, Marge, Mossy Oak, Courtney, Mossy Oak, Maxwell, Realtree. The correct answer.
46:51 Speaker 05 Bottomland's been around for longer than that.
46:53 Speaker 03 Is Mossy Oak.
46:54 Speaker 04 No!
46:55 Steven Rinella? Dang it.
46:55 Speaker 03 I think we had three of our players.
46:56 Steven Rinella? That's what I was thinking too.
46:57 Speaker 05 Yeah, Bottomland's been around for longer than that.
47:00 Speaker 03 I thought Mossy Oak was around for a while. Or it's Haas Outdoors. Haas Outdoors owns Realtree, or excuse me, Haas Outdoors owns Mossy Oak.
47:08 Steven Rinella? Not so fast Maxwell.
47:09 Speaker 03 Mossy Oak bought the tree bark camo pattern.
47:12 Speaker 05 Are they talking about Bottomland there?
47:13 Speaker 03 No, they're different, but if you look at, Phil's gonna pull up a picture here of tree bark. It looks exactly like Bottomland's. This came out first. Jim Crumley invented the famous tree bark camel pattern in 1979. Nothing on the market was brown enough or gray enough to blend in with the forest in fall. So he created tree bark, which became the first commercially produced hunting camo. When the pattern showed up in a 1983 Cabela's catalog, Crumley was no longer able to keep up with demand. It became one of the most popular camos of the eighties and nineties with Mossy Oak acquiring it in 2000. Uh, so it looks very much like Bottomland. Bottomland came out second.
47:54 Speaker 04 That's what I was thinking of.
47:55 Speaker 03 So that is the tree bark green, I believe.
47:58 Speaker 04 That's, this is the real tree pattern.
48:00 Speaker 03 Is it? Oh, okay. That's, that is not tree bark. This is the OG tree bark. There was also a tree bark green, I think, that had some leaves in it that looked a lot like that.
48:09 Speaker 05 Phil, can you go back to the question for a second?
48:12 Speaker 03 What's the matter? I think so.
48:14 Speaker 05 Okay, I just, classic, me, I just read the question wrong.
48:17 Speaker 04 Yeah.
48:18 Speaker 03 All right, here's a correct answer review so far. One was a 67.5 gauge shotgun. Two, Croppy Minnows. Three, Black Mamba. Four, Forest Fen. Five, Darwin Awards. Six, Mammary gland. Seven, George Custer. Eight, Flossing. Nine, Mossy Oak. Phil, scoreboard update.
48:41 Speaker 04 Randall has locked it in. He's got eight points with only one question left. The next person, people behind him are Seth and Corey. They have six.
48:51 Speaker 03 Logan's still at five, going for his PB today.
48:54 Speaker 05 We got, I don't know if there's a way to look that up, but I might've gotten more than five.
48:58 Steven Rinella? I think you have, man. I have a lot.
49:00 Speaker 05 It's gotta be six.
49:00 Steven Rinella? I feel like you're more of a dark horse than you think.
49:03 Speaker 05 Thanks, Randall.
49:03 Speaker 03 Question 10, the topic is cooking. Fatty fish such as salmon are high in this nine-letter hormone that's nicknamed the quote, "hormone of darkness" because it helps your body get ready for sleep.
49:18 Speaker 05 Ooh.
49:20 Speaker 03 Fatty fish such as salmon are high in this nine-letter hormone that's nicknamed the hormone of darkness because it helps your body get ready for sleep.
49:34 Speaker 03 Randall, do you have this one right?
49:39 Steven Rinella? I think so. I think so.
49:41 Speaker 03 Rest of the room is doing some hangman on their whiteboards. Cor, Seth, do you have this one right?
49:48 Speaker 04 I think so. But also I might not. I don't know.
49:57 Steven Rinella? It's a good question.
49:58 Speaker 04 I'm just trying to be Cory at this point.
49:59 Speaker 05 There you are.
50:01 Speaker 03 Cory, do you have this one right?
50:02 Speaker 05 I don't know.
50:03 Speaker 03 Fatty fish, such as salmon, are high in this nine-letter hormone that's nicknamed the hormone of darkness because it helps your body get ready for sleep.
50:13 Speaker 05 That'll be my nickname in high school.
50:15 Steven Rinella? The hormone of darkness is, it sounds way tougher than what I'm thinking. That's insane. I'm the hormone of darkness.
50:21 Speaker 03 Yeah, that one sounds more figurative than literal, but in this case, it's literal.
50:28 Speaker 05 I've had like three different answers on my board.
50:30 Speaker 03 Hmm. Excited to hear what they all could be.
50:32 Speaker 04 That's good, Max. I am the hormone of darkness.
50:35 Speaker 05 Having a serious hot flash.
50:37 Speaker 04 Put my nine letters on the whiteboard or forever something.
50:41 Speaker 03 Logan, do you have this one right?
50:43 Speaker 04 Um, I think so.
50:44 Speaker 03 Okay. Logan PB. Marge, do you have this one right? I have a good guess. What'd you doodle for us down there? A hangman. All right. Is everybody ready?
50:54 Speaker 05 Oh, sure.
50:55 Speaker 03 Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth, melatonin. Logan, melatonin. Randall, melatonin. Marge, melatonin. Cory, tryptophan. Maxwell, magnesium. The correct answer is melatonin.
51:09 Speaker 05 Shoot.
51:10 Speaker 04 Yes.
51:11 Speaker 03 Melatonin is stimulated by darkness and suppressed by light. Its levels begin to rise in the evening, peak overnight, and fall in the morning. Melatonin doesn't force you to sleep, but it does tell your body that it's time to rest. Besides salmon, other foods high in melatonin are pistachios, walnuts, cherries, bananas, milk, eggs, and sardines. Hmm. So Maxwell, uh, you shouldn't be having your sardine, egg, and milk lunch anymore.
51:42 Speaker 05 No.
51:43 Speaker 03 Otherwise, that's why you're so sleepy. Or your magnesium.
51:47 Speaker 05 But good thing I got this Mountain Dew.
51:48 Speaker 04 It's funny that eggs are a breakfast.
51:51 Speaker 03 Hmm, big egg. Yeah, big egg, like Randall down there.
51:54 Speaker 04 Yeah.
51:55 Steven Rinella? Big egg, yeah. It's true.
51:57 Speaker 03 Max, if you and I share a brain cell... I think we won.
52:00 Speaker 05 Hey. Yeah, that's true. And the Mountain Dew questions, we would have won for sure.
52:04 Speaker 03 You did well on this show. I did, I did beat my office. Okay. Well done. Today's winner is Randall. He got nine correct answers.
52:14 Speaker 05 I don't come to win. I come to have fun.
52:15 Steven Rinella? And some people tried to give me a 10th point.
52:17 Speaker 03 We tried to give you the perfect game, but you wouldn't take the Crappy Chub minnow.
52:21 Steven Rinella? In hindsight, I wish I'd taken that.
52:23 Speaker 03 Yeah.
52:23 Steven Rinella? Not to give extra money to conservation, but just for bookkeeping purposes.
52:28 Speaker 03 It's for your ego.
52:29 Steven Rinella? Just to keep track of my.
52:30 Speaker 05 I might start calling you that, Crappy Chub.
52:33 Speaker 03 All right, Crappy Chub, what are you gonna do with that $500 donation today?
52:36 Steven Rinella? Let's give the $500 to the Western Habitat Foundation.
52:40 Speaker 03 Oh, I think that's a new one on the show. What do we like about them?
52:42 Steven Rinella? I think I've given money to them before.
52:44 Speaker 03 Okay.
52:44 Steven Rinella? Uh, they do.
52:45 Speaker 03 Remind us of their mission.
52:46 Steven Rinella? They, every year, they do, uh, projects on public lands to improve habitat. Um, a bunch of these in recent, they've done stuff in North Dakota and New Mexico, but in recent years, been going out to Fort Peck and pulling fence from the CMR, just old abandoned fence that impedes wildlife movement. So I was out there this past weekend and got to spend some quality time out in some beautiful country and, uh, it's just very classic boots-on-the-ground conservation work.
53:18 Speaker 03 Well done, Randall. $500.
53:20 Speaker 05 Nice, Randall.
53:22 Steven Rinella? Thanks, guys.
53:22 Speaker 03 Crappy Chub away from being a thousand.
53:24 Speaker 05 Crappy Chub.
53:26 Steven Rinella? Never forget myself.
53:27 Speaker 03 Join us next week for more meter trivia, the only game show where conservation always ends.
53:34 Speaker 05 Yeah, Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host. Using those smooth, mellow tones, he lays them questions down.
53:47 Speaker 05 And he likes taking those two and three-year-old bucks.
53:51 Speaker 05 And he's an avid.
53:52 Steven Rinella? Amateur. Rock howl.
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