LOW-GRADE HORNY Ft. Kendahl Landreth & Jordan Myrick | Episode 243

Kendahl Landreth & Jordan Myrick return for another SPOOKY SEASON episode!! In a King George costume with half-torn pants, Drew talks to Kendahl & Jordan about gall bladders getting removed, a surprise episode callback gift, Jordan getting shamed by a teacher for eating a sandwich in college, the Skarsgard acting lineage, why not everyone needs to try banter, Kendall running a pressure campaign for high school homecoming queen, the insane plot of Anaconda, and so much more. Kendahl IG: https://www.instagram.com/kendahllandreth/?hl=en Jordan IG: https://www.instagram.com/jordanmyr1ck/?hl=en Follow The Comment Section on IG: https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/?hl=en Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:02Speaker 00

  You'll be like, "Oh, nice to meet you." They'll be like, "Oh, okay, stupid." And then you're like, "What?" And then they're like, "Oh, oh, let me guess. You're a comedian who can, you can dish it out, but you can't take it."

• 0:10Speaker 01

  Every Uber I've ever been in.

• 0:12Drew Afualo?

  What? They're just insulting you.

• 0:14Speaker 00

  Always. And I'm like, "We haven't done any jokes yet." I haven't been in a queue. We're just meeting.

• 0:18Drew Afualo?

  Oh, are we starting now?

• 0:19Speaker 00

  This is not a show. But yeah, it's always kind of like, "Oh, you dish it out, but you can't take it."

• 0:23Speaker 01

  I've been in a queue for a hundred minutes.

• 0:24Speaker 00

  Men love to say that joke.

• 0:32Drew Afualo?

  Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show, starring me, your fave, everybody knows me, who cares about me. Onto the guest. Today, we have an iconic all-star, my favorite couple personally, Kendall and Jordan.

• 0:45Speaker 01

  Hello!

• 0:47Speaker 00

  We're so excited to be here.

• 0:49Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God, welcome back, my favorite newlyweds.

• 0:50Speaker 01

  Thank you so much.

• 0:52Drew Afualo?

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• 1:35Speaker 00

  I was about to say, and if we can start with a surprise for you.

• 1:39Drew Afualo?

  Let's.

• 1:39Speaker 00

  We brought you a gift.

• 1:40Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:41Speaker 00

  You just got married, it was just your birthday, we have a little something for you.

• 1:43Drew Afualo?

  Oh! Love to know. See, one thing about lesbians, they're always gonna have something to give me.

• 1:48Speaker 01

  Oh, we're very classy.

• 1:49Drew Afualo?

  Every time I meet, whether it's a crystal or anything in between. Ah, it's wrapped so cute!

• 1:54Speaker 00

  Wrapped by Kendall, she's so good at that kind of stuff.

• 1:56Drew Afualo?

  I am so sorry that I'm dressed this way as I open this gift.

• 1:59Speaker 01

  No, this isn't intended for it.

• 2:00Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my goodness. No fucking way! It's a Hobbs and Shaw Funko Pop! Our favorite movie.

• 2:09Speaker 00

  Our favorite movie.

• 2:10Drew Afualo?

  Our favorite movie.

• 2:11Speaker 00

  We talked about it so much last time, and I was like, "You know what? What do you get the woman that has everything?"

• 2:16Speaker 00

  I tried to get you the Duo, and the people kept canceling my Mercari orders. They would not send me the Duo. I could only get the Hobbs, not the Shaw.

• 2:24Speaker 01

  Well, and then when it came.

• 2:25Speaker 00

  It came, and the box was all ripped up. That was not how the picture was.

• 2:28Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, this is so fucking funny. And if you can believe, I actually have Funko Pops from other, like, they were gifts, but like, they're from other, like, really funny times in my life, so this is so fucking funny.

• 2:41Speaker 00

  But you don't have this one?

• 2:42Drew Afualo?

  No, I don't. But I do have Black Adam, so technically, that was The Rock, so I have the other one.

• 2:47Speaker 00

  You gotta get all the Rock Funko Pops.

• 2:48Drew Afualo?

  I gotta get all the Rock Funko Pops. You know me, I do PR for him on my op days.

• 2:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:53Drew Afualo?

  I moonlight as his assistant. Oh, my God, thank you, guys!

• 2:56Speaker 01

  Of course. Congratulations.

• 2:58Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 2:59Speaker 01

  If you take anything into your marriage, let it be that.

• 3:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Let it be this Hobbs Funko Pop.

• 3:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:06Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my gosh, the sweetest people ever. Thank you so much. I love that. And I also feel the need to mention, I am, just so you guys know, I am King George. That's my costume for today. Now, the reason why, I'm glad you asked. It's because when I was younger, I had to do this thing called the Wax Museum Project when I was in 5th grade. And you had to pick someone that you admire in history. And you literally had to, like, do drag as them, essentially, but you had to write, like, an essay and all this stuff. And I picked King George III. Now, you're probably asking, "You admire him?" No, of course not. When I was a kid, I had, like, a really weird fixation on the English monarchy. And King George III is, like, arguably one of the worst kings in British monarch history.

• 3:48Drew Afualo?

  And unpacking and looking back, I think I was obsessed with him because I'm like, "Wow, all that privilege, all that wealth, squandered." You really got a layup of a century, and you really boofed it.

• 3:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:59Drew Afualo?

  But he ruled for a long time. And I remember I did a whole thing on him, and my teacher was like, "I think she should pick someone else." Like, called my mom, and my mom was like, "Is it against the rules?"

• 4:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:09Drew Afualo?

  And she was like, "Well, no." And then my mom was like, "Well, then let her do it, who's the fuck?" So I literally was the only girl who gender-bend. I was the only one who cross-dressed. And I talked in a British accent all fucking day.

• 4:19Speaker 00

  Which I'm sure was perfect.

• 4:21Drew Afualo?

  Yes, it was flawless and also not required in any way, shape, or form. But at the end of the day, I am a performer, so... This was actually Laura's idea. Laura was like, "You should be King George."

• 4:30Speaker 00

  It's a full circle. Your teacher's gonna see footage of this and be like, "God, she's so obsessive."

• 4:36Drew Afualo?

  She's still carrying that bit from over 20 years ago. And also, I have to say too, these pants do not fit me. I did not try on the costume prior to filming. So Carrie had to cut a big ol' hole in the back in their prop pants.

• 4:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:51Drew Afualo?

  At this point, I can't cross my legs and I can't move.

• 4:54Speaker 00

  God willing, the fire alarm doesn't go off.

• 4:57Drew Afualo?

  I'm in trouble.

• 4:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, somebody grab a robe!

• 4:59Drew Afualo?

  Well, now it's like, "We're staying in here."

• 5:02Drew Afualo?

  They'll be left behind.

• 5:03Speaker 01

  Remember when I levandin' you in that movie theater?

• 5:05Speaker 00

  Oh, my God! Kendall and I and a bunch of our friends, I think our producer Kate was there, we went to see the new Candyman movie.

• 5:11Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 5:12Speaker 00

  Because the original one's one of my favorite movies, and we went to see it. And there's a big row of us sitting in the back of the AMC Six, and...

• 5:19Drew Afualo?

  AMC A-list?

• 5:20Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 5:21Drew Afualo?

  Yes, of course. All lesbians, yes, of course.

• 5:24Speaker 00

  Of course! And so the alarm goes off for, I mean, one second. It's done one, wee-oo, and that's it. Kendall gets up and runs out of the theater. No shoes on, for some reason. She'd taken off her shoes during the movie.

• 5:39Speaker 01

  She definitely came there in shoes.

• 5:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, she had shoes on at one point, and she got up and she ran out of the theater. And then after one or two of the alarm sounds, they turned it off. And she had to slowly walk back into the theater and up the stairs with no shoes on.

• 5:56Speaker 01

  I was fast.

• 5:57Speaker 00

  After having left me to die.

• 6:01Drew Afualo?

  You said, "I went to go get help."

• 6:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 6:03Drew Afualo?

  For us.

• 6:04Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 6:04Speaker 00

  Well, she came back, and she's like, going across everyone to get back to us in the center aisle, and then she's like, "I'm so sorry, I thought there was an active shooter." And I'm like, "That's actually not an excuse to leave him in."

• 6:15Drew Afualo?

  So that's actually worse, given the context? It's actually kind of worse now.

• 6:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I just, I realize, I think I wish, I really wish I was someone who had good survival instincts, but I've learned through a couple moments in my life, the second I think I might die, I accept it way too quick.

• 6:31Drew Afualo?

  You're just like, "Well..."

• 6:32Speaker 01

  Anytime, we've been on planes where there's a bit of turbulence, and I fully have accepted, I'm not even anxious, I'm just like, "This is the end."

• 6:38Drew Afualo?

  That's fair.

• 6:39Speaker 00

  You were running out of the theater to run toward the active shooter. Take me, and my wife's in there!

• 6:45Drew Afualo?

  I was like, "Hey, I'll save you some time." I'm right here.

• 6:47Speaker 00

  I'll give you a free one.

• 6:52Drew Afualo?

  Well, how have you guys been? How's it been since the last time we gushed about Hobbs and Shaw?

• 6:56Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh, what have we been up to? Well, you've been, Jordan, poor Jordan, can I say what's going on with you?

• 7:01Speaker 00

  I'll let you say it.

• 7:02Speaker 01

  Getting her gallbladder removed.

• 7:03Speaker 00

  Dang. I'm sick as a dog. It's been months.

• 7:05Speaker 01

  Oh, no!

• 7:06Speaker 00

  In the hospital, out of the hospital, all these things. For, of course, the first day I went to the doctor, I was like, "I think my gallbladder's messed up." They were like, "No, stupid bitch." And I was like, "Okay." And then now, you know, six months later, and they're like, "Oh, it's your gallbladder, you have to have it removed." So I'm getting it removed on the 16th.

• 7:20Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 7:20Speaker 00

  And I'm very excited, that's kind of one of my things of big news, but we really tried to get it.

• 7:24Drew Afualo?

  I'm excited for you.

• 7:25Speaker 00

  We tried to get it together for a big costume for this, but...

• 7:27Drew Afualo?

  It's all right.

• 7:28Speaker 00

  You know, we did two Halloween shirts.

• 7:29Drew Afualo?

  And that, you know what, is more than enough. That's more than enough. I never pressure anyone to dress up, because I'm like, "I'm gonna look a mess, but it's up to you guys."

• 7:38Speaker 00

  No, you look incredible, and I wish we were wearing the exact same costume as you.

• 7:41Drew Afualo?

  Imagine.

• 7:42Speaker 00

  So next time we come on, we'll all be dressed exactly the same. In this exact costume.

• 7:46Drew Afualo?

  So no one gets us confused anymore. I'm so tired of that.

• 7:48Speaker 01

  It really is so, like, they have to stop asking young children to pick their favorite person from history. Like, it's too loaded. Because I had to give a speech, similarly, I was supposed to give a speech on my favorite person in history when I was a kid, and I picked Abraham Lincoln. Literally, what? And I'm just like, "That's the only person from history I knew."

• 8:06Drew Afualo?

  Imagine he said, "Well, that was my first gay representation in media."

• 8:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 8:10Drew Afualo?

  So that's why I felt drawn to him.

• 8:12Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 8:14Drew Afualo?

  Well, I know you're also writing a novel.

• 8:16Speaker 00

  That's what I was gonna say.

• 8:17Drew Afualo?

  Okay, fiction lady.

• 8:18Speaker 00

  I know!

• 8:19Drew Afualo?

  Two, a two-book deal. Right, look at you, congratulations, everyone, give her a hand!

• 8:23Speaker 01

  Thank you so much!

• 8:24Drew Afualo?

  So exciting. How's that been?

• 8:27Speaker 01

  It's been incredible. It is like, you know, writing porn.

• 8:33Drew Afualo?

  Can I, let's talk about it because I'm writing fiction books right now, too.

• 8:37Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 8:37Drew Afualo?

  Yes, girl. I'm, I sold my books last year. I'm doing like grand antecy like, but I'm basing it off like Polynesian like lore.

• 8:44Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 8:45Drew Afualo?

  Mythical legend and lore. Oh, yeah.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  Is it sexy?

• 8:48Drew Afualo?

  Yes, there's definitely smut in it because I'm a grown up. Because I'm a grown up. Every time I read a book and they say that there's, it's like YA kind of smut. So it's just like they pan to the fireplace. I get pissed off.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  I.

• 8:58Drew Afualo?

  I'm a grown up kiss right now.

• 8:59Speaker 01

  That's exactly when I started writing, I said, I, I want to write a book I would read. And I'm not going to read a book that doesn't have smut in it. Well, I'm an adult. Like it makes me feel, and I actually think I'm judgmental sometimes when there's a fade to black scene. I'm like, to the author, I'm like, grow up.

• 9:16Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, grow up.

• 9:16Speaker 01

  Grow up.

• 9:17Drew Afualo?

  I'm trying to see something.

• 9:18Speaker 01

  But it is really, have you gotten to writing those?

• 9:20Drew Afualo?

  I've, I've just started. I've done like a tiny bit where it's more so like sexual tension and like making out, like heavy petting. That's what they call it.

• 9:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:28Drew Afualo?

  Heavy petting. Um, so I've done those and even that's a little hard.

• 9:33Speaker 01

  It's an, it's a real.

• 9:34Drew Afualo?

  Creepiest pervert in the world.

• 9:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:36Drew Afualo?

  Sitting there on my laptop thinking, hmm. I feel like that, um, you ever seen 10 Things I Hate About You?

• 9:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:41Drew Afualo?

  You know, the, the, where the principal's writing like smut in her office and she's like bulge. Hmm. That's how I feel.

• 9:49Speaker 01

  Well, it's so hard because it's such a mental game because you start writing it and then, I'm sorry, I know your, your mom's here.

• 9:56Drew Afualo?

  That's all right. She's heard worse.

• 9:58Speaker 01

  But you get a little horny because you're writing it.

• 10:01Drew Afualo?

  And then you're like.

• 10:02Speaker 01

  Okay, well, that I can't relate to yet.

• 10:04Drew Afualo?

  Okay, then you gotta.

• 10:04Speaker 01

  I'll let you know if I get there.

• 10:05Drew Afualo?

  You gotta crank.

• 10:06Speaker 01

  I'll let you know if I get there.

• 10:07Drew Afualo?

  I'm gonna hit the gas on it then.

• 10:09Speaker 01

  You should be horny.

• 10:10Speaker 00

  I will say Kendall is a sexual machine. She is built unlike anyone else I've ever met.

• 10:15Drew Afualo?

  A sexual machine.

• 10:16Speaker 01

  Of course I'm writing, I'm getting horned up. So I say, all right, I know I'm cooking with gas here. This is good. But then you gotta keep, you can't fix it. You're like, I gotta, I gotta stay in this.

• 10:25Drew Afualo?

  Right, right.

• 10:26Speaker 01

  So you're horny, low grade horny in nine hours of the day, but you can't fix it because then what will you do?

• 10:33Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 10:34Speaker 01

  And then you come back the next day to write your book.

• 10:37Drew Afualo?

  Said horniness.

• 10:38Speaker 01

  You read what you wrote before and you actually want to call the police on yourself.

• 10:43Drew Afualo?

  Because you read and your eye was in heat when I wrote this.

• 10:46Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 10:46Drew Afualo?

  Uh oh.

• 10:47Speaker 01

  Do you know when you, and I'm so sorry to, to your mother, but when you.

• 10:50Drew Afualo?

  All right, no worries.

• 10:51Speaker 01

  You want, okay, you're, you're masturbating. I don't know what type, if you talk about this stuff on the show, but.

• 10:56Drew Afualo?

  Sure.

• 10:57Speaker 01

  Women's health? I'm sorry.

• 10:59Drew Afualo?

  Women's health, sorry.

• 11:00Speaker 00

  This is a G rated podcast.

• 11:02Speaker 01

  You're masturbating and then you, something happens and you orgasm and then the porn you're watching, you're like.

• 11:08Speaker 00

  Something happens and then you orgasm?

• 11:11Speaker 01

  That is the orgasm.

• 11:12Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 11:12Speaker 00

  That's the orgasm.

• 11:13Drew Afualo?

  Said orgasmist.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  You're masturbating, you, you're watching.

• 11:16Drew Afualo?

  Anything.

• 11:17Speaker 01

  Poolside orgy.

• 11:18Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 11:18Speaker 00

  Don't call me out like that.

• 11:20Speaker 01

  Someone's watching poolside orgy.

• 11:22Drew Afualo?

  One time, you saw that I Googled that one time.

• 11:25Speaker 00

  And then I keep clicking on it over and over again.

• 11:28Drew Afualo?

  Oh, Jesus.

• 11:29Speaker 01

  And the second you come, you go, oh my god.

• 11:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah, that moment of clarity.

• 11:34Speaker 00

  Watch this.

• 11:35Speaker 01

  This is sick. And that's exactly when you go back to read what you wrote.

• 11:38Drew Afualo?

  Even when I, when you think about things you say, like in active, whether you're masturbating or in active sex.

• 11:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:44Drew Afualo?

  And then afterwards, you're like, I don't know who the fuck that was. I just, that, that was the devil.

• 11:49Speaker 00

  The devil took over me. Sometimes, have you ever said something kind of on accident? You know what I mean? You say it and it's not something you ever said before and then you're like, that's crazy that I said that. I'll put you on blast now, can I?

• 12:00Drew Afualo?

  I'm so scared because I don't know what it is at all. Clearly I was just. Well, you can say it and then we can cut it afterwards if you want.

• 12:07Speaker 00

  Okay. One time, uh, during sex Kendall said, um, I love that big pussy to me.

• 12:16Speaker 01

  I forgot.

• 12:18Speaker 00

  I was like.

• 12:19Speaker 01

  That was the worst thing.

• 12:20Drew Afualo?

  What? Excuse? I love that big wolf pussy.

• 12:24Speaker 00

  I love that big pu- big in what way? What are you talking about?

• 12:29Speaker 01

  Big in spirit, big in energy.

• 12:32Drew Afualo?

  Big in energy, yeah.

• 12:33Speaker 00

  But I was like, what are you, you know, and I was actually really respectful, really cool in the moment. I said, I'm not gonna say anything.

• 12:38Drew Afualo?

  So I just said, yeah. That's like a postmortem. That's like a, hey, so let's talk about.

• 12:42Speaker 00

  We had to have a talk about it after.

• 12:43Drew Afualo?

  Performance review.

• 12:44Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 12:44Drew Afualo?

  What did you love and what did I hate? I'll start. I hated big pussy.

• 12:47Speaker 00

  I was confused by a big pussy.

• 12:50Speaker 01

  Big pussy. You said you, you.

• 12:52Drew Afualo?

  You noticed big pussy.

• 12:53Speaker 00

  I noticed it. I certainly noticed it. It just felt, it gave me more questions than answers is what I'll say about it.

• 12:59Drew Afualo?

  So what did you mean by big?

• 13:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:02Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I didn't have any, it just kind of just came out. I was just doing free flow, free association.

• 13:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I thought we were just like word associ- yeah, we're just, we're experimenting with new adjectives.

• 13:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, Kendall was there doing, you know, freestyle slam poetry, basically. Whatever comes to her mind.

• 13:17Speaker 01

  I do talk too mu- I talk too mu- I just really let it.

• 13:20Drew Afualo?

  You're a big talker.

• 13:20Speaker 01

  I'm a.

• 13:20Speaker 00

  Oh my god, yeah.

• 13:22Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, yeah.

• 13:24Speaker 01

  I don't have the vocabulary for it, I'll tell you that.

• 13:25Speaker 00

  Well, sometimes I, it's like, I'm not even there. I'm like, she's up there. She's just kind of giving a speech. I'm like, I don't even use beer, but that's fine. But it's a performance.

• 13:33Drew Afualo?

  Well, she liked Abe Lincoln. It was a Gettysburg Address. That's the type of shit she's dealing.

• 13:37Speaker 00

  The Pussy's Burg Address.

• 13:38Drew Afualo?

  She said. Big pussy address.

• 13:41Speaker 01

  Yeah. Exactly.

• 13:44Drew Afualo?

  Okay, so you're, you're, but the zombie books are going well.

• 13:47Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 13:47Drew Afualo?

  They're going wonderfully and amazing.

• 13:49Speaker 01

  I mean, it's the most stressful thing I've ever done, but it is, it's incredible. It's, it's so fun. I mean, I'm not, I'm not saying my book is incre- it is incredible, but writing has been incredible. It's been very fun and I'm very excited about it.

• 14:01Drew Afualo?

  And even Dace has told me she's taken a lot of book recommendations from you as well because all the books you like to read are sapphic, which she was like, yeah.

• 14:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:07Drew Afualo?

  Because she doesn't like the ones I read because she's like, too many straight people.

• 14:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:11Drew Afualo?

  And every time I tell her, oh, I'm really loving this book. She's like, is there anything gay in it? And I'm like, unfortunately, no. She's like, forget it then.

• 14:17Speaker 01

  I've become, the way I intake media is so sad because I refuse, I can't hold interest on anything that doesn't have gay people in it. Lesbians specifically.

• 14:27Drew Afualo?

  She's the same.

• 14:28Speaker 01

  But there's so little that pretty much the only shows I watch are shows I do not really like. Pushing through to get to the kissing scenes and then there's shows that I know I'll, I'll hate so much that all I do is watch clips on YouTube of like the kissing compilation.

• 14:43Drew Afualo?

  You're so. Sick. All Kisses, season one. Yeah.

• 14:48Drew Afualo?

  And I know because I, that's what I've done before too as well. I do want to say too, um, I just saw Jordan, uh, a clip of y'all on your podcast when you were talking about the healthcare system.

• 14:59Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 15:00Drew Afualo?

  Like you go to the doctor, I think something's wrong with me. Do you want to tell the joke? I, I think it was really funny.

• 15:05Speaker 00

  It's just like, you know, you go to the doctor and.

• 15:08Drew Afualo?

  The joke, it's just her life. Literally you just off the dome and it made me laugh so hard. I favorited it.

• 15:14Speaker 00

  It's a sweet thing. It's just like, you know, you go to the doctor and they're like, why are you here? And you're like, I think, like something's wrong. I'm sick. And they're like, you're sick and you came to the doctor? You're so fucking stupid. Like, they're like, what's wrong with you? Why are you here? You're an idiot. Like, what do you mean you're at the doctor? But then if you don't go to the doctor and then you, you know, whatever, something happens, you have to go to the ER. They're like, why didn't you go to the doctor six months ago? We're gonna shoot you with a gun. It's just like, there's no, you can't do anything right in the American medical system. There's no winning. And everything you do, they act like you're so stupid. And Kendall and I talk about this all the time, but I feel like we're constantly asking people, especially in a medical setting, questions that they will act like they've never, not only never heard the question, but never heard any of the words in the question individually, ever in their life.

• 15:55Speaker 01

  Literally nowadays, you go to a, any store and you're like, where's the bathroom? And it's a person who looks like they were pulled off the street and thrown into a uniform and they're like.

• 16:03Speaker 00

  Bathroom? Bathroom.

• 16:06Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 16:07Speaker 00

  No tubs here. I said, no, like a bathroom with a toilet. They're like, a toilet, a toilet, a toilet.

• 16:13Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 16:14Drew Afualo?

  I know in the clip, you're like, you call someone, you're like, I'd like to make an appointment and they're like, appointment? Now what is that?

• 16:20Speaker 00

  Literally.

• 16:20Drew Afualo?

  An appointment?

• 16:21Speaker 00

  Anything is, and I think half the time you're talking to AI. So I think that's like what the problem is.

• 16:25Drew Afualo?

  And we cannot discern.

• 16:26Speaker 00

  By that shit all the time. Oh my god. Our poor producer Kate is always having to be like, that picture's AI, that phone call's AI.

• 16:31Drew Afualo?

  It's now getting to a point though, where it is hard to tell, which is the scary part. Like before, when it was like everyone had seven fingers. You're like, okay, obviously this is AI. Now though, it's like gotten to a point where I'm like, okay, I need to like, I'm feeling like a boomer.

• 16:45Speaker 01

  Well, and I always.

• 16:46Drew Afualo?

  Scammed at a thousands of dollars.

• 16:47Speaker 00

  100% fishing.

• 16:48Speaker 01

  Struggled. I was sending you stuff that was, I, I remember the, remember the sandcastle hotel?

• 16:52Speaker 00

  Kendall sent me this hotel. There's a video of a hotel. This was like, this was like a year ago. So it was very clearly AI. It was, the text on it was like the world's only sandcastle hotel, fully made of sand. Right on the beach. Kendall said.

• 17:06Speaker 01

  Lost my mind.

• 17:06Speaker 00

  You have to take me here. I said, sorry, I love you. You're stupid.

• 17:13Speaker 01

  I know.

• 17:14Drew Afualo?

  When you guys are an old couple, like you're gonna have to watch her phone activity.

• 17:18Speaker 00

  Oh my.

• 17:19Drew Afualo?

  She's gonna get stamped by a Nigerian prince.

• 17:21Speaker 00

  When we hit 45, we're going into a home and they're taking their technology. Like we are just trying to make enough money to get to a level where we can be put in a nice facility.

• 17:28Drew Afualo?

  A nice, nice care facility.

• 17:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, because we need it.

• 17:33Drew Afualo?

  Well, I'd love to know, how's the podcast going? How's everything? I love your podcast. That was one of my favorite ones I've gone on.

• 17:39Speaker 00

  That's so nice. We always love you doing anything and we're so happy that we've had you on the podcast. And yeah, it's going well. We're going on tour in 2027.

• 17:45Drew Afualo?

  Oh my gosh, how exciting.

• 17:47Speaker 00

  Which is really exciting.

• 17:48Drew Afualo?

  Do y'all like tour? Have you toured before?

• 17:50Speaker 01

  Well, Jordan loves to tour.

• 17:53Speaker 00

  I tour still regularly. I tour doing improv and all kinds of stuff. It's like one of my big, you know, sources of income. So I tour all the time and I love it. I'm built for it. Touring with the Upright Citizens Brigade was my first job out of college. So I've been doing it for forever. I love it. Kendall hates it.

• 18:06Speaker 01

  I hate it. I get a little nauseous if I, I don't like being on the plane and off the plane. I just don't, I like my routine. I don't know. It's just a lot for me. I get really sick and I feel like I break out. And so I hate it, but I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it.

• 18:24Drew Afualo?

  You're so me. I do, I feel the same way about tour, the physical act of touring, but I do like performing in other places. Like, that's always fun.

• 18:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, one time on the stage, it's, oh, it's so fun.

• 18:34Drew Afualo?

  It's the getting there that is like a task and a half.

• 18:37Speaker 01

  But I really struggle. I'm really similar to my nephew. He's four, but I like, he, we have like the same routine where it's like, okay, I wake up at the exact same time and Jordan hands me an Uncrustable. And then I eat my Uncrustable and then I go and I do the exact, everything is so the same. I have the same lunch every day, the same dinner every day.

• 18:54Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 18:54Speaker 01

  I use the bathroom at the same time. You know what I mean? I just, I don't like stuff to change.

• 18:59Drew Afualo?

  I'm not a big fan of change. I guess is my problem.

• 19:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:03Drew Afualo?

  I feel the same way, especially about tour. When we went on a like nationwide tour for my book and like we did like 22 cities, like 22 dates. That was like hell on earth for me. Performing was awesome, but I, I did say like, I felt like I was on the run. The whole time. I just like only could change my underwear and wipe all the surfaces. That's all I was allowed to do. And then I'd wake up in a new city. I'm like, ugh. But then when I would get on stage, I'd feel like awesome and I love to perform. But I, glam was starting to get to a point where I was like, nah, cause like my hair and makeup artist glammed both me and my sister. And I remember like, he would be like, okay, yeah, like let's start glam. We'd have to start one of us. And then I'd be like, Daisy, you go first. You go first. And then she was like, okay, like, and then I started feeling like a little kid getting a haircut. Like every time I was getting my makeup.

• 19:47Drew Afualo?

  I feel like, and I would be like, whatever's fastest, whatever's fastest. I don't care. Whatever's fastest. Me acting like I'm being tortured.

• 19:56Speaker 00

  I mean, you have to have that. I don't think people realize, because I don't really wear makeup at all when I'm not working. And I think it's because I don't, people, I think people realize how much makeup you have to have on.

• 20:04Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god.

• 20:05Speaker 00

  On stage, but especially on camera.

• 20:07Drew Afualo?

  No dead ass, like for real.

• 20:09Speaker 00

  If you are not contoured to the gods, you look like a fucking potato on camera.

• 20:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, you'll look like flat as hell.

• 20:15Speaker 00

  It is crazy.

• 20:15Drew Afualo?

  You'll look 2D.

• 20:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. So I'm like, I'm not putting anything on my face or body, but I'm not working.

• 20:20Drew Afualo?

  No, you're so right. Cause even when I first did this show ever, we did like a test rehearsal thing. So I had to go and like, we tried camera setups. We tried like the chairs and everything, like did a whole day of shooting. And then I did like the artwork and all that. And I remember before, like on our way to the studio, my mom was like, are you gonna hire a hair and makeup artist for the show? And I go, I mean, I'm pretty good at my hair and makeup. Like I can do it myself. And then we went, I was on these kinds of cameras all fucking day. Then at the end of the day, my mom goes, I think you should hire someone.

• 20:49Speaker 00

  And she was right.

• 20:50Drew Afualo?

  And then I go, damn, you think? And then I go and I watched the footage. I said, yeah, I need to.

• 20:55Speaker 00

  Well, I love when I see something, you know, cause we don't get professional glam most of the time unless we're actually shooting like a TV show, like something for a dropout or like whatever.

• 21:02Drew Afualo?

  Big time, yeah.

• 21:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, just cause we're like, you know, we're, we're cheap. But so like.

• 21:06Drew Afualo?

  It is expensive.

• 21:07Speaker 00

  It's so expensive. And I will see comments about, you know, either one of us where it's like, we'll be in something where we have full glam and they'll be like, wait, like, Jordan is glowing. Wait, Jordan is having a massive glow up right now. And then like two days later, something will come out of me where I look normal, like myself. I don't have that much makeup on. And they'll be like, what happened?

• 21:27Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, are you okay?

• 21:29Speaker 00

  Check on her. I'm like, yeah, it's professional makeup.

• 21:33Drew Afualo?

  Well, yes, it's gonna alter how I look, kind of. Well, yes.

• 21:37Speaker 00

  It's a gay man doing the Sistine Chapel on my face.

• 21:41Drew Afualo?

  I know. And I got lucky with Adam, cause Adam is like my cousin. And then I hired him early on. So like, and he can do both, which is rare. But the few, before I brought him on full time though, I would like, sometimes he wouldn't be available. So I'd have to like hire someone else. And when I would look, oh my god, what they charge. Even to just do hair. I like really got lucky with him doing both because most people have to hire two. And like, it's expensive. Oh my gosh, and I'm like, I just wanna look presentable on camera, whatever. I was like, I guess I can do it.

• 22:11Speaker 00

  We gotta change these cameras though. We can't, we're, there's too many D's on these cameras.

• 22:14Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we gotta do, we gotta do iPhones. You all gotta film me off iPhones. And even that camera's getting too, getting too strong now. I just told this story on the last episode, but I'll tell you guys again.

• 22:26Speaker 01

  Please.

• 22:26Drew Afualo?

  Recently I was on FaceTime with Jason and I was like bitching about something. I was complaining. I was like, oh my god, it's so annoying. And she's like listening to me and she's like, yeah, she's doing something. I'm doing something. And I had just got out of the shower. So I had a towel on. And then I was about to take my towel off to like lotion up. But then when I saw the camera, I was like, oh my god, I'm on FaceTime. So I tilted it upwards and then I took off my towel. I'm still talking. I hang it. I go back. I forgot about that face tracking shit on the new updated thing. So it tracked my face, both my tits out. I'm standing there at the counter going, yeah. And then I'm like talking and then.

• 22:57Speaker 00

  Bouncing around.

• 22:59Drew Afualo?

  Literally with, with emphasis. And then Daisy like goes off camera and then she goes, hey dude. And I go, oh my god, I know. Oh my god, oh my god. I like just looked at myself. I was like, oh my god, oh my god. And then I was so humiliated. I forgot what I was mad about.

• 23:12Speaker 00

  Are you not a naked family?

• 23:14Drew Afualo?

  I'm not. It's so funny you bring that up. It's so funny you bring that up.

• 23:17Speaker 01

  That shocks me.

• 23:17Drew Afualo?

  Because Jason literally was telling my mom the other day, she was like, well, and also Drew, like, she's not a naky girl. Like, I'm a naky girl. Like, I don't care.

• 23:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, she is. Is your mom?

• 23:27Drew Afualo?

  No, I mean, yes and not really.

• 23:28Speaker 00

  Medium, okay.

• 23:29Speaker 01

  You ask me to take off all my clothes right now, I'd do it.

• 23:32Speaker 00

  She's hoping you do.

• 23:33Drew Afualo?

  I'm praying. She's actually, yeah.

• 23:36Speaker 00

  I love being naked.

• 23:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, she loves it. I don't, I, I don't know what it is. I got weird, I honestly, and don't diagnose me, cause I know one of you's going to.

• 23:44Speaker 01

  You stop it.

• 23:45Drew Afualo?

  I got real weird about nudity, like as a child. I just like really, I'm like, only I wanna see it, like. But even then I told Jason this the other day. I'm like, did I ever tell you when I was a kid, like after puberty, whenever I would get in the shower, I would get completely nude and I would never look at myself in the mirror. Almost like I was gonna turn to stone. I don't know what I was afraid of. But like, I was just like, I'm just not gonna look. I'm just not gonna look. I just like never ever looked at myself until I was probably like 17.

• 24:11Speaker 01

  Until you're on that FaceTime.

• 24:13Speaker 00

  What are those?

• 24:14Drew Afualo?

  And I said, oh my god, I'm beautiful.

• 24:16Speaker 00

  I mean, I know there is a certain level of kind of like self-realization you can have when you see yourself fully naked. I will never forget, one time I came home from something. I was wearing like a dress or whatever. I was living in New York, so it was like so hot. I like took off my dress, took off, and then I caught like a side angle of myself in a like full mirror that I had hanging on the back of my door. Fully nude. All I was wearing was a Fitbit and sneakers with socks from the side.

• 24:41Drew Afualo?

  Why was your dress off before your shoes?

• 24:43Speaker 00

  I think I was just so hot that I was like, I'm ripping this thing off. Like, I don't even know how it happened. It just, because I'm also a shoes off at the front door kinda guy. So something had happened in this situation where I was like, I'm not okay. I need to like get undressed immediately. But yeah, just caught this angle of myself. And I was like, if I, I'm beautiful. If I ever see this exact image again, I will be forced to end my own life. It was haunted.

• 25:05Speaker 01

  And that's on y'all.

• 25:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was haunted. And that about it, it was wrong. I shouldn't have seen it.

• 25:10Speaker 01

  Oh yeah. We were a naked house. I feel like you were freaked out the first time you came over and I was walking around in my underwear in front of my dad. And you were like, this is sick.

• 25:19Speaker 00

  I don't know why, cause it's not like I think your dad wants to have sex with you. And it's not like my, it's not like I've never been in my underwear around my dad. I just think, I don't know. I don't know. I don't have an answer. Rest in peace, your dad. I don't have an answer.

• 25:33Drew Afualo?

  I honestly feel similar to that. I felt like even when I went to college, I remember Jason told me this story when she went to freshman orientation. She got roomed randomly with this girl, like when they were just learning about the school. And she said, yeah, I was like, she was kinda talking to me. And I was like, my back was facing her. And then when I turned around, she turned around and she was standing there completely topless. And she had just met her like seconds before that. So she was, when she told me that story, I was like, oh, they're not gonna get me. So then when I went to college, when I went to college, and I was like, if I have a roommate, that's inappropriate. And I'm also like, just for cultural context, like I'm someone. So like nudity is not a bad thing necessarily, but like it is a thing to be like somewhat covered,

• 26:16Drew Afualo?

  especially around elders, like in certain cultural situations. Like even boys and girls are not allowed to like sleep in the same rooms. Like when we have like summer parties and stuff like that. So it's like, that's also a cultural context that I think I was leaning into a little bit. But when I went to college, my, my college roommate, my freshman year, who's still my friend to this day, she was actually at my wedding. I told her, like when we first met, she was like, oh, let's go get lunch. I'm like, awesome. She's so like sexually free and she's also a naked girl. Like she loves to be naked. As soon as we sat down, she's like, do you wanna talk about like living together? I go, yeah, awesome. I hate nudity. So I like immediately was like, so like.

• 26:48Speaker 00

  So don't you ever.

• 26:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so don't you ever fucking think about that shit.

• 26:52Speaker 00

  Get used to the clothes you're wearing now.

• 26:54Drew Afualo?

  And then she, to this day, she still laughs, cause she told me, when you said that to me, I remember thinking, oh fuck, I've been sleeping naked this whole time. All right, I gotta work on that. And that's why I said, and that's why I said something. Imagine.

• 27:05Speaker 00

  But I will say it's more common than you think, because I had the exact same situation as Jason, where I got to my room. And my roommate, Esther, still love her to this day, she, her thing was she was always lotioning herself. No matter what. She came out of the shower naked or in a leopard print lace thong and she was lotioning herself. It did not matter if my college boyfriend was in the room. It did not matter if my mom was visiting. I would have a gaggle of gay guys from my theater program in there. Esther's just squirt, squirt.

• 27:34Speaker 01

  How are you guys doing? How are you guys doing?

• 27:36Drew Afualo?

  Why are you lotioning so often?

• 27:38Speaker 00

  And she was, I'll tell you what, she was never dry.

• 27:41Drew Afualo?

  Never ashy. Esther was never ashy. Yeah, I don't know. I was real weird about, that's why when I was telling the, my boobs on FaceTime, Kendall's all, that was a bad thing?

• 27:51Speaker 00

  All right, next time I, Jason, I'll put mine away.

• 27:57Drew Afualo?

  So anyways, what I would love to know, what's next for you guys? Obviously, book, tour, anything else exciting that's coming out for y'all?

• 28:06Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 28:07Drew Afualo?

  What else are you working on? I feel like y'all are so busy all the time.

• 28:10Speaker 01

  Well, our, this is more personal, but our Chihuahuas, I would say mentally declining.

• 28:16Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 28:16Speaker 01

  So now, well, no, she's fine. I think I just, she has no idea. I just think I always thought, well, our Chihuahua, she's everything best.

• 28:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:26Speaker 01

  We found her, you know, they found her on the street. She lived there for years and years. She had trash in her teeth. She was pregnant. She's perfect. And, but I always said, oh, well, physically, she'll go first. But it, it really gets you. The mentally, I think she might be around for maybe fifteen more years. She's got no idea what is going on. And it's gotten better. I think we got her on a new medication.

• 28:46Speaker 00

  Not on a new medication. We're doing some brain vitamins or something that seem to be working. But, you know, that's, that's kind of a big thing going on for us right now. Um, but.

• 28:57Drew Afualo?

  I think that's great, honestly. I have two, I have two dogs, Squid and Tuna.

• 29:02Speaker 01

  Oh, cute.

• 29:03Drew Afualo?

  Right before, well, I was telling you how the internet was trying to kill me right before my wedding.

• 29:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:07Drew Afualo?

  So if that wasn't bad enough, uh, literally, I want to say about two days before I left for two weeks, and we hired a pet sitter to come because my entire family was going to the wedding. And we flew in a pet sitter and everything, like, I was like typing up the instructions. Literally two days before we leave, one of my dogs ripped out a toenail, trying to take my cinnamon roll that I made. Because obviously, I was, I was going through a lot at that time, and my family made me leave the house. And of course, we went to the Century City Westfield, and I went to the Hello Kitty Build-A-Bear, and I built a cinnamon roll. And then my deaf dog decided at that, that was the perfect time to rip out a toenail. I don't know if anyone's ever experienced dogs ripping out toenails, but they bleed like crazy.

• 29:48Drew Afualo?

  And it was funny because my parents had just left. I just took fifty milligrams of weed.

• 29:53Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 29:53Drew Afualo?

  Because I needed to be sedated like a gorilla. And so when I was like, I was actively getting high, he rips that out, and we didn't even notice. But then my husband was like, there's blood, there's blood like everywhere. And there was blood all over the ground. It looked like a crime scene, like in Gone Girl, you know, when she spreads the blood.

• 30:07Speaker 00

  Yes, yes.

• 30:09Drew Afualo?

  Looked like. And I was like, oh, my god, oh, my god. And we like cornered both of them. And then one of his toenails was out. I guess there's like a bunch of capillaries and shit in there. So it was bleeding like, he wasn't even reacting, like he couldn't care less. But then we were both high as fuck. And I was like, I can't go to the emergency pet vet right now. I can't. So I had to call my mom. My mom comes with my dad, and like, they took my dog to the vet to go like get bandaged. They were there for like two hours.

• 30:33Speaker 01

  And that was Squid?

• 30:34Drew Afualo?

  That was Tuna. That's my deaf dog. I should have known. Yeah, and Tuna's completely one hundred percent deaf. And even when our pet sitter, when we got back from the honeymoon, she goes, and you're sure he's deaf? And I go, yeah, because it does kind of seem like he can hear sometimes. Sometimes it does seem like that.

• 30:51Speaker 01

  It comes and goes.

• 30:52Drew Afualo?

  Let me find out that you can hear this whole time. But even when I fostered him, I remember I took him to our primary vet, um, just to like get a quick like checkup on MC. And right before I took him to go foster him, the owner, the previous owner was like, he might be deaf. I go, might be? You didn't go check? And he was like, well, I was, but then the vet said like, it's like a six hundred dollar test, and it's just a yes or no. And it's not really affecting his quality of life. So like, if you want to know, he can. He's like, I just have a feeling. Because he doesn't react to some things when I'm behind him. And I'm like, oh, okay. And I take him to the vet. I tell him the same thing. He goes, huh, okay, put him up here. And I put him on the counter. And he's facing the vet, and he goes, I'm going to hand you this. And he handed me this big like metal canister of treats.

• 31:35Drew Afualo?

  And he goes, go ahead and drop that on the floor, because it's all linoleum. And I dropped it. It made the loudest, like scariest noise. My other dog reacted. And he was like, he goes, yeah, he's dead.

• 31:46Speaker 01

  That's the test that got six hundred dollars.

• 31:48Drew Afualo?

  Imagine that was six hundred dollars. Imagine he took him in the back, and that's what he fucking did.

• 31:53Speaker 01

  Well, I've been, you got to teach Tuna, because I've been teaching Angel American Sign Language.

• 31:58Drew Afualo?

  I have taught him, not actual sign language, but we did, we have used certain hand signals to make him sit and lay down and stuff, which he does respond to. But again, I don't know. He could be tricking me.

• 32:09Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 32:10Drew Afualo?

  It's one of those where sometimes he reacts, and you're like, can you hear?

• 32:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. Maybe it's like little moments of auditory clarity.

• 32:17Drew Afualo?

  Maybe he's like partially deaf.

• 32:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:19Drew Afualo?

  But then even when we did that, he goes, no, he's, he's either completely deaf or like ninety percent deaf.

• 32:24Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 32:25Drew Afualo?

  And I was like, damn, really? Big old ears, useless.

• 32:28Speaker 00

  Big old ears.

• 32:30Drew Afualo?

  They're just, yeah, they're just decoration, more than anything. I'm sending you lots of healing vibes. What's her name?

• 32:35Speaker 01

  Angel.

• 32:36Drew Afualo?

  Oh, Angel's so, because she is an angel.

• 32:39Speaker 00

  She is an angel, yeah, she's perfect. But, yeah, that's kind of our big news. We like had so much stuff going on last year. Kendall was in the hospital for a while, and then like we moved and our apart, or like our apartment we were living in, fully flooded.

• 32:52Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my god.

• 32:52Speaker 00

  And then we moved.

• 32:53Drew Afualo?

  Last time I saw you guys at your podcast, I remember you guys telling me you wanted to move. So I'm glad you guys got to move.

• 32:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, so, no, truly, last year.

• 33:00Speaker 00

  It was wild last year.

• 33:01Speaker 01

  I feel like we didn't get enough attention for how hard last year. Like, after it was over, we looked back and we were like, we are soldiers.

• 33:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, hello. We need more sympathy.

• 33:10Speaker 01

  No one's, and we haven't really, no one's talking about it. Like, not a single fundraiser was started on our behalf.

• 33:17Drew Afualo?

  People were refusing to talk about everything you've been through.

• 33:19Speaker 00

  No foundations, anything. But, yeah, so it was like a really hard, bad year last year. And then this year, we've just been like, okay, we're going to get done. So the book is a big focus.

• 33:29Drew Afualo?

  Very cool.

• 33:30Speaker 00

  The podcast, like I said, we're going on tour. We have three dates so far announced, all in California. We have LA, San Diego, and Orange County. And then we'll be touring all over the country in twenty twenty seven. I'm just really excited. So that's really fun. And then, yeah, we have some stuff in development that like we can't really talk about.

• 33:47Drew Afualo?

  No, but we should key about, because I have some other stuff to work, I'm working on.

• 33:50Speaker 00

  Please.

• 33:51Drew Afualo?

  But I would love to key with y'all, because you guys are way more well-versed than me in that.

• 33:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, well.

• 33:56Drew Afualo?

  I would love.

• 33:56Speaker 00

  Tell you literally anything.

• 33:57Drew Afualo?

  Ooh, forgot my hat.

• 33:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, you can.

• 34:00Drew Afualo?

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• 34:44Drew Afualo?

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• 35:27Drew Afualo?

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• 36:11Drew Afualo?

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• 36:57Speaker 00

  You know, nothing like too exciting that we can report on right now, but just.

• 37:00Drew Afualo?

  Too exciting? You guys are literally doing amazing things. Nothing too exciting. I'm, I'm also going to manifest too that your zombie novels get made into like a TV show.

• 37:09Speaker 01

  I mean, that's the dream.

• 37:10Drew Afualo?

  That's the ultimate dream, huh?

• 37:11Speaker 01

  It's so funny too, because as I've been writing it, Jordan is, Jordan is eighty steps ahead. Jordan is like the, we've already been purchased. There was a bidding war, and our TV show has been purchased for this book. And she comes up, she's like, I met this person, they're going to be perfect for this character. I'm like, what? That's like, you just had two sentences in that scene. I've got the perfect person to play.

• 37:29Drew Afualo?

  You're so me.

• 37:30Speaker 01

  She's locked in.

• 37:31Speaker 00

  I'm not, well, first of all, it's not crazy to think, I'm like, every book right now is getting turned into a TV show.

• 37:35Drew Afualo?

  It's true. Like, we're in a real adaptation time right now. It's true.

• 37:38Speaker 00

  The way that people were hungry and had a literal bidding war between like all the biggest book companies for your books.

• 37:45Drew Afualo?

  Hello.

• 37:45Speaker 00

  I mean, like, they're not going to want to turn them into a TV show, you know?

• 37:48Drew Afualo?

  It's true.

• 37:49Speaker 00

  If that's not wanted already, I'm manifesting it.

• 37:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. I literally call it, um, that kind of like gig of like me writing a fiction book, it getting picked up, turned into something. I'm calling it my Lin-Manuel Miranda plan.

• 38:01Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 38:01Drew Afualo?

  So I'm like, because I'm like, yeah, you can have it. I just have to be a principal character in it. You can have it. I just have to be in it. And I'm, and I'm gonna be Hamilton, so make it work. Build the show around me.

• 38:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, your Lin-Manuel Miranda.

• 38:14Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, there we go. Upon.

• 38:16Speaker 00

  And isn't King George in Hamilton?

• 38:19Drew Afualo?

  Yes, it all connects.

• 38:23Drew Afualo?

  It goes straight to the top.

• 38:25Speaker 00

  It goes right up to the top.

• 38:27Drew Afualo?

  Okay, perfect transition. I do have fun facts about y'all.

• 38:30Speaker 00

  Oh my god.

• 38:33Drew Afualo?

  Again, new ones. These are new ones. Imagine I repeated them, though. But I always say that you can let me know if they're fun.

• 38:40Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 38:40Drew Afualo?

  And if not, I will be firing Amanda, so it is.

• 38:42Speaker 00

  Sure, sure.

• 38:43Drew Afualo?

  It's the pressure. It's the pressure's on, yeah. Okay, first one, it says, "In college, Jordan was eating a sandwich in class and your teacher walked by and said, "I've never met a successful actor that eats sandwiches."

• 38:55Speaker 00

  That's true. That's true. I wasn't even eating a sandwich in class. I was eating a sandwich during our lunch break. But I went to NYU for acting. I was in the School of the Arts.

• 39:04Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 39:04Speaker 00

  It was very, like, you know, intense. Um, and I think, you know, it ultimately probably made me a better actor, but I do think there was also a lot of bullshit and...

• 39:14Drew Afualo?

  And elitism in that?

• 39:16Speaker 00

  Yes. And also, you know, things I'll never forget. Um, I, I worked at a dumpling shop, uh, near my school in college because I had to have a job.

• 39:25Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 39:25Speaker 00

  And I'm, I'm very lucky that I got to go there, but like, my parents and I did have to take off, you know, take out loans that we're still paying off and like, you know.

• 39:30Drew Afualo?

  Yes, and many of the student body there wouldn't understand that, yes.

• 39:34Speaker 00

  I'm working at the dumpling shop. I'm like, wearing the dumpling shop uniform. I'm like, standing behind the counter, like, taking people's orders. And some people came in for my program, um, and they were like, "What are you doing here?"

• 39:44Drew Afualo?

  They're like, "Diner girl," like Cinderella story.

• 39:48Speaker 01

  They thought you were doing like a simple, a simple life.

• 39:50Drew Afualo?

  A bit. Oh, are you researching?

• 39:53Speaker 00

  They're like, "You're doing method. You're doing method. You're playing..."

• 39:56Drew Afualo?

  You're like, "This is what we call a job."

• 39:57Speaker 00

  Exactly. Yeah, I was like, "No, no, I work here." And they were like, "That's crazy." So that was really interesting. But yeah, one time in my program, a teacher walked by me while I was at lunch. And I, you know, my weight has fluctuated so much and I have a lot of autoimmune stuff, so it's never really like standard, but I've, like, when I was younger, I was really heavy and then like, lost a bunch of weight, whatever. And in college, I was in New York, I was walking everywhere.

• 40:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 40:17Speaker 00

  So I, I had lost a bunch of weight, to the point where I was like, underweight.

• 40:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 40:21Speaker 00

  So just to give context to like, when I'm receiving this feedback about the sandwich.

• 40:25Drew Afualo?

  Right, right, right.

• 40:26Speaker 00

  I'm eating a sandwich that I made from my house. It's like a hummus and cucumber sandwich, because I didn't have any money. And I'm sitting on the floor of this acting studio, like, trying to memorize lines for this class, eating this hummus and cucumber sandwich. And, yeah, he walked by, and he'd always been nice to me, and he walked by and he was like, "Oh, Sandwich." And I said...

• 40:47Speaker 01

  That's what he called you?

• 40:47Drew Afualo?

  Well, yes. He thinks that's your name.

• 40:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. He said, "Oh, Sandwich, good to see you." "Oh, Sandwich," I said, "Yeah." And he said, "Um, you know, I've actually never seen a successful actor eat a sandwich."

• 40:59Drew Afualo?

  Like, just generally, or?

• 41:01Speaker 00

  I guess so. And I'll tell you what, when he was younger, he was the, he's not successful anymore.

• 41:06Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 41:06Speaker 00

  But when he was younger, he was the star of a very famous horror movie.

• 41:13Drew Afualo?

  Oh, interesting.

• 41:15Speaker 01

  It's about a big sandwich that comes in a tank.

• 41:18Speaker 00

  Um, no, drop in the comments who you think it is.

• 41:20Drew Afualo?

  Who you think the sandwich villain is?

• 41:22Speaker 00

  Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 41:22Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god.

• 41:23Speaker 00

  And I just told him, I was like, "Well, you'll see one one day," and it was me.

• 41:28Speaker 01

  It is so jarring going to school and meeting rich people for the first time, like, truly rich people. I remember, because I went to acting school in New York, and I remember meeting this girl who had started a GoFundMe on her Facebook. She posted it, and she was like, "As you guys know, it is very expensive living in New York. And it's really hard to be able to, you know, have my lifestyle and then also go see Broadway shows in the row that I like to experience them in." And so the GoFundMe was for, in my family, I've, I've only ever seen, GoFundMe's are for funerals.

• 42:00Drew Afualo?

  Funerals, yes, yes.

• 42:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, or extreme medical costs, yes.

• 42:04Speaker 01

  Yes, yes. I could not believe my eyes. And she raised like, twenty thousand dollars for bet, for her to get front row seats to the musical.

• 42:12Drew Afualo?

  She said, "I'm so sick of sitting in the fucking balcony. I can't take it anymore. It's orchestra or nothing."

• 42:16Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 42:16Drew Afualo?

  How am I supposed to study as a thespian if I'm not in the orchestra pit?

• 42:19Speaker 01

  Right.

• 42:19Drew Afualo?

  That's fucking insane.

• 42:21Speaker 00

  So people are interesting in acting school. And I was shocked because I grew up, I mean, I, my mom is an ICU nurse, my dad worked at the airport. So I, I grew up, I certainly never wanted for anything.

• 42:29Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 42:30Speaker 00

  Um, but I think, yeah, going to, to an acting school in New York, I realized like, oh, there are people that have like, kind of a scary amount of money.

• 42:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah, for real.

• 42:39Speaker 01

  Rich was, I had, there was a rich girl in my town, and she was rich because she had a two-story house and a hot tub. And I remember being like...

• 42:47Drew Afualo?

  Oh, bitch, I used to think two-story homes, I'm like, wow, how does it feel?

• 42:51Speaker 01

  How does it feel?

• 42:53Drew Afualo?

  That's how they live.

• 42:54Speaker 01

  So then when you meet the real, the real ones.

• 42:56Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, when you, yeah, when you meet real money, it's honestly scary. It's like, it, well, and also I think to myself, like, I'm like, "And you're gonna be an actor? What are you gonna pull from?"

• 43:06Speaker 00

  Good luck.

• 43:06Speaker 01

  They won't need to.

• 43:07Drew Afualo?

  And they'll book everything.

• 43:09Speaker 00

  I was gonna say, and they book everything.

• 43:10Drew Afualo?

  That way, actually, yeah, you're right. You answered my question.

• 43:13Speaker 00

  Um, and they book everything.

• 43:14Drew Afualo?

  Oh, you're right, you're right. They don't have to worry because they, they have famous parents.

• 43:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:17Drew Afualo?

  This is all formality going to the school.

• 43:19Speaker 00

  It's a, it's a performance in and of itself.

• 43:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 43:21Speaker 00

  For all of a lifetime.

• 43:22Drew Afualo?

  That's the real method.

• 43:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:23Drew Afualo?

  It's like that story that came out about all those, uh, famous rich parents that were like, faking their kids' college admission things.

• 43:30Speaker 00

  Oh, the varsity blues.

• 43:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they were like, photoshopping pictures of them, like, rowing.

• 43:34Speaker 01

  The women from Full House.

• 43:35Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 43:35Speaker 00

  Aunt Becky. And then Felicity Huffman, who's like, actually a real famous celebrity.

• 43:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 43:40Speaker 00

  She's married to, um, I'm watching her, Shameless, she's married to, um, please, the guy who's from Shameless.

• 43:48Speaker 01

  The dad?

• 43:48Drew Afualo?

  Oh, the dad?

• 43:49Speaker 00

  Uh, Willie Mays Macy. Yeah.

• 43:51Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yes.

• 43:51Speaker 00

  Isn't she married, Felicity Huffman's married to Willie Mays Macy, or was. Like, she's like a real celebrity.

• 43:55Drew Afualo?

  Right, so I always think, like, can't you guys just pay for it?

• 43:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:59Drew Afualo?

  Like, I'm confused why you had to lie to get them in there.

• 44:01Speaker 01

  Why are you going to college? Is that crazy to say? Isn't going to college for if you like, wanna like, break a cycle?

• 44:09Drew Afualo?

  Isn't that kind of what it's for?

• 44:10Speaker 01

  Like, if you're rich, I'm like, what's the college for?

• 44:13Speaker 00

  You need something, so you have to go to college to get the thing.

• 44:16Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 44:16Speaker 00

  Or you're like, "I want to learn about something I know nothing about." Like, you know, like, you either like, or like, "I want to be a doctor. I have to get a degree to have that."

• 44:24Drew Afualo?

  I have to like, change my circumstance in order to get that job, so, yeah.

• 44:28Speaker 01

  But then you don't need to go to a certain college for that. But that's what's so funny is I feel like all of the kids are like, "Well, I want to experience a normal life." And I'm like, "So your parents faking you being on a rowing team and then buying a school is not normal."

• 44:39Drew Afualo?

  So we're talking about a Truman Show kind of life, not like a real life. Like, I, I feel, I feel the same way, because like, that would be to me, like, if you were a nepo baby and you joined the military, like, why would you do that shit?

• 44:48Speaker 01

  Right.

• 44:49Drew Afualo?

  Why would you do that? You could do anything. Why would you do that?

• 44:50Speaker 01

  A hundred percent.

• 44:51Drew Afualo?

  And it's like, well, I just want, in fact, honestly, if they did that, I honestly would be like, "Okay, maybe you don't want to be a nepo baby, if you're going into the military or something like that." They should do something crazy, like a nepo child should do that.

• 45:01Speaker 00

  I think there's a desire.

• 45:03Drew Afualo?

  Or be a monk or something, like, just something completely left and you're like, "Okay, well, I guess you don't really want to be a nepo baby."

• 45:08Speaker 00

  And quiet.

• 45:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 45:10Speaker 00

  Go be a monk. I think that's a great suggestion. Yeah, I think sometimes people who have had no experiences are like, "I want to experience something."

• 45:19Drew Afualo?

  But that's too hard. Like, they're like, "I want to experience it in like, a twenty-five percent capacity."

• 45:24Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 45:25Drew Afualo?

  Like, it's like, as easy as you could possibly make it for me, I would like to experience it.

• 45:29Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 45:29Drew Afualo?

  I think the same thing. I think the same. Well, I also think about nepo babies, I'm always like, I mean, the way like, if I was a nepo baby bitch, the way I would be talking about it constantly, I'd be like, "And my dad's gonna hear about this." So I would literally be like, "Yeah, that's my dad. Obviously, I'm gonna use the connections, obviously."

• 45:47Speaker 00

  Yep. If I was a nepo baby, I wouldn't be talking about it because you would not hear from me. I'd be living on an island that my parents bought me, and I would not have a phone, I would not have a car. I would not be posting on social media. When I see these people, these nepo babies, posting on social media, like, day in my life, I'm like, "Don't." You don't have to show anyone anything. You have enough money.

• 46:09Speaker 01

  I know.

• 46:09Speaker 00

  I have to get on the internet and show my ass because I need money to survive.

• 46:14Speaker 01

  People always ask, they're like, "Oh, do you guys get jealous of each other?" I'm like, "No, we are desperate for the other." The second one of us gets, any amount of money, I'm done. I'm not, I am not working ever again.

• 46:28Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, one of us, one of us, don't care who, don't care who.

• 46:31Speaker 00

  This year, this past year, we had friends that were like, "You have to get like, a money guy to help you." And we were like, "Okay, fine." So we got this money guy, and I feel like, once a month, we check in with him and we're like, "Is it enough yet to support the two of us plus some family for the rest of our lives?" And he's like, "Of course not." Literally, of course not. You really don't make very much money.

• 46:50Drew Afualo?

  Can you crunch the numbers again?

• 46:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's like, "You make a very, you, normal amount of money for two adults that live in Los Angeles."

• 46:55Speaker 01

  What if I get a cheaper gym membership?

• 46:58Drew Afualo?

  How can we make this so I don't have to really do this anymore?

• 47:02Speaker 00

  How much meal prepping can I do until I can stop having to be on the internet?

• 47:07Drew Afualo?

  And I can't every goddamn dollar.

• 47:08Speaker 00

  Yes, and I feel so grateful for it. Like, being on the internet has been really wonderful for us because, like, once again, you know, we both are very privileged in a lot of ways. We both have very, uh, accepting parents, both of the fact that we're gay, and also like, accepting in like, what we want to do with our careers, and we have the relationships with them, and we're so lucky to have that. We also like, could always like, move back in with either one of our parents if we ever needed to.

• 47:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 47:29Speaker 00

  So we have a lot of, you know, legs, I got to go to NYU, like, there's a lot of things that I have and Kendall has that other people don't have, so I don't want to, you know, make that seem, uh, not like a thing.

• 47:39Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah.

• 47:40Speaker 00

  What was I saying?

• 47:41Drew Afualo?

  Well, I think you were talking about...

• 47:43Speaker 01

  She's very grateful.

• 47:43Drew Afualo?

  Like, yeah, you're being grateful, like...

• 47:45Speaker 00

  I'm like those girls unboxing their huge Christmas hauls. First of all, I just want to say...

• 47:49Speaker 01

  This is not to brag.

• 47:50Speaker 00

  This is not to brag.

• 47:50Speaker 01

  And if you don't like this content, go ahead and swipe.

• 47:55Speaker 00

  I'm very grateful.

• 47:57Drew Afualo?

  I, no, I think you were talking about basically making enough money to be able to take care of people.

• 48:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, just if you were a nepo baby, we'd never work.

• 48:04Speaker 00

  I just said, why do you wanna, you know, if I didn't have to work, I would do unpaid improv, I'm sorry.

• 48:09Speaker 01

  That's sick.

• 48:09Drew Afualo?

  That is your, that is your life's calling.

• 48:12Speaker 00

  Well, no, that's what I gotta finish. I would, during the day, I would just go volunteer at Hollywood Food Coalition, a place we already volunteer, I'd just volunteer there more. And then at night, I would do unpaid improv. And then every single one of my friends would own a home that I pay for.

• 48:28Drew Afualo?

  That's so T.

• 48:29Speaker 00

  Why would you not?

• 48:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 48:30Speaker 00

  That's what always shocks me about billionaires. I'm like, you guys have so much money, you could literally be so popular.

• 48:34Drew Afualo?

  Well, no, I think that all the time, too. I always think like, that, no, the, like, I really do think, like, and I was just joking about this with one of my friends who's in the industry, too, the other day. But I was telling her, the kind of money that I make is, is arguably cartoony, considering what I do. Like, look at me, bro. Like, this is what the fuck I'm doing, this is my job. And I was like, so, to me, it's like monopoly money in that regard, so the whole point of it is to spend it on everyone I love. Like, that's like, that's the whole point. So like, being able to retire my parents, I, I take care of my grandfather, I take care of, like, my family, my other family. So like, I take care of a lot of people, and that's like, the best fucking part of the money. And then like, when I go on vacation, I can take care of everyone when we go.

• 49:16Drew Afualo?

  Like, the, the fact of like, going out to eat with like, nine people that I love, and then being like, I'll take care of it, don't worry about it, and no one needs to Venmo me.

• 49:23Speaker 00

  Don't you feel so big daddy when you do that?

• 49:24Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I'm so, I'm big boss down, bitch. Oh, I'm big boss down.

• 49:28Speaker 00

  I put the card down, and I go, someone else goes, well, here, and I go, please.

• 49:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I'm always like, no, don't worry about it.

• 49:33Speaker 01

  That's like, I always feel really nice because my dad, that was like, his dream. Like, my dad had-

• 49:38Speaker 00

  And he was doing it, you know?

• 49:40Speaker 01

  He had no money. My dad had a new scam every week he'd gotten pulled into.

• 49:44Speaker 00

  Poor guy.

• 49:44Speaker 01

  He was like, we'd get boxes sent to the house, I, I open it up, it's a bunch of, uh, hats with the logo on it, I'm like, what's this logo? He's like, that's my company. I'm like, you don't have a company.

• 49:52Drew Afualo?

  He's like, I got the marketing down.

• 49:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly. He got into so much trouble, he was always doing some new scam, he'd call me at work, he'd go, Kendall, quit your job today. You're never gonna have to work again.

• 50:02Drew Afualo?

  We're gonna make it big.

• 50:03Speaker 01

  And I would say, uh, they, when I was really young, when I was, I would be like, this is it, but eventually I was like, he's lying, but, he wasn't lying, he thought it was real.

• 50:11Speaker 00

  He would call, he would be like, girls, you don't have to worry about anything anymore, I'm going on the road. This man is almost fully paralyzed. Almost fully paralyzed in a motor chair, he'd be like, I'm gonna be going from city to city, and I'm gonna be speaking. We're like, what are you talking about?

• 50:24Speaker 01

  He was always getting some scam, but it was his dream to go, and he would do it, you know, at a bar. Everyone around on me. That's like, all he wanted to do. But he couldn't afford it, and I remember one time, we went out to dinner with him, and he really wanted to do something kind of big daddy, and he was like, side of asparagus for the table.

• 50:41Speaker 00

  He, we all ordered, he calls the waitress back over, he goes, no, come here for a second, she's like, he goes, you know what? You like the asparagus? She goes, sure. He goes, great, all right, you know what? Let's do as an appetizer, let's do a plate of the asparagus. Literally, who wants a plate of asparagus as an appetizer? That's psychotic behavior. This is a man who's been in a restaurant twice in his life, and you can tell. We're like, okay, he doesn't know how to eat food. And then she comes, she brings the asparagus, what is it, six skewers of asparagus? Six little strands, whatever.

• 51:10Speaker 01

  And he's like, enjoy it, enjoy it.

• 51:12Speaker 00

  Yum. And then the end of the meal comes, Kendall, I paid for it, and he was so mad.

• 51:16Speaker 01

  He rolled right away. He was not happy.

• 51:18Drew Afualo?

  He's like, I did that whole bid with the asparagus, and here you are, stepping on it.

• 51:22Speaker 00

  I wouldn't have gotten the asparagus if I had no you.

• 51:25Speaker 01

  He was so mad. He was mad. But we're like, you get one nepo baby, cuz I have my nepo baby I like, and Jordan thinks hers doesn't count, but she's like, no, the Skarsgards are nepotism babies.

• 51:36Drew Afualo?

  Okay, the Skarsgard are nepo babies, however.

• 51:39Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 51:40Drew Afualo?

  They do, well, they act their ass off, that's one, but they're also freaky weirdos.

• 51:44Speaker 00

  They are-

• 51:45Drew Afualo?

  When you're a freaky weirdo, like, it low-key cancels out, you know? Like, they're like, off-putting weird, like, low-key.

• 51:50Speaker 01

  Jordan says it's a family company.

• 51:53Speaker 00

  That's what a nepotism baby is. What are you talking about?

• 51:56Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, no, let me make myself clear.

• 51:57Drew Afualo?

  Family as in Olive Garden, like, when you're here, you're family.

• 52:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. You know, to me, it feels like, you ever meet, like, someone, and they're like, I'm a plumber, my grandfather started this plumbing company. Me and all my brothers were all plumbers, we work at this plumbing company. That's what the Skarsgards are. I'm like, this is like, you're working, you guys actually run the craft, you're weirdos. They're not just like, oh, both your parents are like, random actors. Also, it's not like, Stell, I mean, Stellan Skarsgard is like, the, the patriarch.

• 52:22Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 52:23Speaker 00

  He's an incredible actor, but it's not like, people are like, you know, he's not like-

• 52:28Drew Afualo?

  He's not like Glenn Powell, you know what I mean?

• 52:30Speaker 00

  I'm just like, Stellan Skarsgard is like, you know, I'm sure, but so many of his kids have become famous, and I think it is really because-

• 52:35Drew Afualo?

  Arguably more famous than him.

• 52:36Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 52:37Speaker 01

  Well, that's what she loves to say.

• 52:39Speaker 00

  Acting.

• 52:40Speaker 01

  But then why is Margaret Qualley different?

• 52:42Speaker 00

  Stop. The fact you have to ask that question is absolutely ridiculous.

• 52:47Drew Afualo?

  I don't know, let's ask Jack Antonoff.

• 52:50Speaker 00

  Bring him in.

• 52:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. And I was like, oh my god, surprise.

• 52:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, can you imagine? Surprising us with Jack Antonoff would be one of the craziest things I could do. Bring him in.

• 52:59Drew Afualo?

  You treat it like the asparagus, like, oh, sure, yeah. No, sure, that's awesome, that's so great. Honestly, the, the Skarsgard thing, I, I will say, I do get where you're coming from. Also because, when I watch those guys talk in interviews, even Stellan, they kind of look like they don't even know why they're there. Like, they're like, I guess, like, yeah, I did movie, and then like, I acted, and like, yeah. Like, they kind of seem like they're already weird like that, so they just kind of found their way here.

• 53:27Speaker 00

  They're so strange, and I love them.

• 53:30Drew Afualo?

  They, no, I love that about them. I love that they're freaky weirdos.

• 53:33Speaker 00

  Sorry.

• 53:33Drew Afualo?

  That's a nice change for white guys, like, in this industry.

• 53:36Speaker 00

  Just be like, strange and do what you want. And I also respect that, like, they have money, they have the time, they really only work on interesting projects they want to work on.

• 53:45Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 53:45Speaker 00

  Everyone that I know that's ever worked with a Skarsgard in any capacity, or even like, interviewed them on the carpet or whatever, is always like, they're so nice.

• 53:52Drew Afualo?

  They are.

• 53:53Speaker 00

  Like, you know, people are like, yeah, like, with it, like, Bill was so nice to all the kids, like, just, they're, they seem so nice and normal, versus, I have nothing but respect for Margaret Qualley, I think she's a very talented actress.

• 54:03Speaker 01

  Singing a different tune, another wrong-

• 54:05Speaker 00

  She's a very, I know, I think she's very talented, but I'm just like, it just feels different.

• 54:12Speaker 01

  Is it cuz she's, seems less weird?

• 54:15Speaker 00

  I think probably.

• 54:16Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, probably. I mean, it's also, I think, too, like, it's one of those where it depends on like, what you're getting cast in, and how often, I think, is when people start to get sick of nepo babies, like. Cuz then it starts to feel like, okay, you're just picking her cuz she's like, the new girl. But then, like, the Skarsgard are so random, like, the shit that they're in, it's also feels like shit that no one else could do.

• 54:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:39Drew Afualo?

  Like, who the fuck else would play Pennywise? Like, who else would do that shit? Like, you know Jacob Lurie's not gonna do it, you have to be ugly.

• 54:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:45Drew Afualo?

  So you know he's not gonna do that shit. Like, and I, honestly, I, um, think about Jacob Lurie sometimes when I'm thinking about doing interviews, cuz I think, like, I've been holding this joke in, first of all, I was holding it for Sydney Sweeney because I knew she would get mad, then she turned MAGA, so I'm like, okay, well, I'm never gonna talk to her, so. But like, I would be like, well, I don't know, where do you shop? We look about the same size. That was something that I was like, workshopping, saying, I'm like, we're, we're like, similar build, you and I. And I was gonna say that to Sydney Sweeney solely because I knew it would upset her, and that, like, I think she would get offended, and I think that's kind of funny.

• 55:16Speaker 01

  Well, it would be perfect because I genuinely think she, it would, it would affect her, it, cuz she would be confused.

• 55:22Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 55:23Speaker 01

  She wouldn't get, she wouldn't know how to answer. She would be like, wait, I'm sorry.

• 55:26Drew Afualo?

  And then, and then I would feel in that moment, like, I've literally said, I'm like, that joke is hilarious to me because, in real time, you have to unpack your fatphobia.

• 55:36Speaker 00

  You'd watch, good luck with that.

• 55:38Drew Afualo?

  In real time, you gotta do it in front of me.

• 55:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:41Drew Afualo?

  Why? You don't want to look like me? Why?

• 55:42Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 55:42Drew Afualo?

  Uh-huh, exactly. Oh, I know, why? Cuz you're fatphobic. So, but Jacob Lurie, I did hear through the grapevine, though, that he really doesn't like being commented on his height, which I was like-

• 55:53Speaker 00

  Get over it, I'm sorry.

• 55:55Drew Afualo?

  I feel the same way.

• 55:57Speaker 00

  There's so many things going on, and also, I know I'm not that tall now, but I was so tall for so long, and now it's evened out, but I got very tall very young.

• 56:04Drew Afualo?

  You were telling me, bitch.

• 56:05Speaker 00

  I, I'm just like-

• 56:06Drew Afualo?

  You were telling me.

• 56:06Speaker 01

  We were backrobe for, for pictures, every time.

• 56:09Speaker 00

  I'm like, what? Why is that offensive? Like, if I was so tall that every time I walked by, someone was like, you should play basketball, I'd be like, fuck, yeah, I should.

• 56:17Speaker 01

  Well, but you know what it's like? It's like those girls, and there's a ton of them in acting school.

• 56:22Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 56:22Speaker 01

  Where someone goes, well, you're really pretty, and they, oh, I saw this hundreds of times, the prettiest girl you've ever seen, she's a model, she starts crying.

• 56:36Speaker 03

  Running a training business is hard enough. Managing the platform it runs on shouldn't be. Thinkific.com. That's thinkific.com.

• 57:10Drew Afualo?

  I just like, the word pretty is like triggering to me. Go fuck yourself.

• 57:18Drew Afualo?

  Go fuck yourself. That's what I have to say to that. I don't see myself.

• 57:22Speaker 00

  Why don't you get some plastic surgery to make yourself uglier?

• 57:26Drew Afualo?

  You know, you know what would be great? Get fat. Like if you get fat, nothing will clear that up real quick than that.

• 57:31Speaker 00

  And I'll tell you what, it's easy. It's easy and it's free.

• 57:36Drew Afualo?

  In many ways, it's very easy.

• 57:38Speaker 00

  Can I ask, who's your favorite person to interview on the carpet?

• 57:41Drew Afualo?

  Ooh, my favorite person like ever I've interviewed?

• 57:44Speaker 00

  Or just like someone you like talking to regularly or kind of like whoever comes to mind?

• 57:50Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, Zach Fox was really fun. I do love speaking with him. I think he was so cool. Dakota Johnson was a hoot.

• 57:58Speaker 01

  Oh, I love her.

• 58:00Drew Afualo?

  She was so wonderful. Loved her. Uh, she was so, she's so fun. Like she's, she's cute and fun. I'm trying to think who else I've interviewed that I just like fucking adored. There's quite a few, I feel like.

• 58:10Speaker 01

  I love a person who's like so famous and I've met a few people like this where they're, they're genuinely so famous. But they have the energy of a person who just got out of acting school and is on their first short film set. Like the excitement and the earnestness of that's how like when I met Cheryl, Cheryl Lee Ralph.

• 58:27Drew Afualo?

  Oh, she was lovely.

• 58:30Speaker 01

  She was like, can you believe her on this red carpet?

• 58:32Drew Afualo?

  I was like, yeah, you've, I can't believe I am. You have to be used to this. I know why I'm here. I don't know about you.

• 58:40Drew Afualo?

  I can't believe I'm here, but you're so famous. She's just so excited. Yeah, John Cena was really fucking cool. I loved him. There's, there's not very many that I felt were, actually I'll tell you one that I did recently that was like shockingly kind of bad, but it was, it was.

• 58:56Drew Afualo?

  Which is like, okay, so here's the tea with this, here's the tea with this. So I remember when I was talking to her. Uh, or when I was about to talk to her, her rep came up to me and was like, she's a huge fan. And she like insisted on coming over here. Can I bring her to you? And I went, well, yeah, obviously I love that. And then she goes and I remember thinking, really? You don't know your husband. I feel like he fucking hates me. So I was thinking in my head, I was like, well, I mean, maybe she's one of those that's like, you don't get her, you don't get her. You have no idea the amount of women that come up to me, both famous and not, who go, my husband fucking hates you, but I think you're awesome. And I tell him all the time, no, you don't fucking get her, but he says all the time, I hate that fat bitch, but I love you.

• 59:41Drew Afualo?

  Like the amount of. Thank you.

• 59:44Drew Afualo?

  And then sometimes they'll be there and they'll be like, he's somewhere over there, but like he fucking hates you. And I tell him all the time, she's funny. You don't get it. So the amount of.

• 59:51Speaker 00

  People from space? Interactions with people and I'm like, is this your first interaction?

• 59:56Speaker 01

  No, deadass. That was even the meanest thing. We went to that little, that little art market, remember? We go up, I couldn't believe what I walked into.

• 1:00:05Speaker 00

  We didn't go, we were walking by.

• 1:00:06Speaker 01

  We were walking by because I wasn't interested in the art they were selling. I didn't, I didn't want any of it. I walked by, they go, oh my God, come here, come here. We walk up.

• 1:00:13Drew Afualo?

  We walk over.

• 1:00:14Speaker 01

  You guys are those influencers. Sorry, sorry.

• 1:00:16Speaker 00

  How dare you? How dare you even undercut this story? They said, you're Jordan and Kendall.

• 1:00:22Speaker 01

  You're Jordan and Kendall and they say, and then she turns her friend, they're influencers. Well, sorry, they're like niche micro influencers.

• 1:00:30Drew Afualo?

  I said, get away from me. Fuck, you walked over. Influencers? No, you're not.

• 1:00:35Speaker 01

  We're genius, we're creative genius.

• 1:00:38Drew Afualo?

  You guys are literally comedians and writers and then you just so happen to make a TikTok too.

• 1:00:43Speaker 00

  I'm just like, leave us alone.

• 1:00:45Drew Afualo?

  It's the same shit as like Caleb when they say Caleb's my favorite comedian ever. My favorite joke he's ever told is the Cooper story. Like that, that's some bullshit he shit out of his mouth on my show. And they're like, that is the funniest fucking thing ever. And I was like, it's funny because he would fucking kill himself if you had to call him an influencer. He fucking hates that shit.

• 1:01:04Speaker 00

  Sure, yeah. I get a lot, something that um, makes me feel confused because it's not insulting, but it does make me feel strange. I get approached a lot by people and they're like, it's so good to see someone so fat. On camera or on TV or whatever. And I'm always like, oh, okay.

• 1:01:22Drew Afualo?

  Is this your first time seeing anyone ever?

• 1:01:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm always like, you know, and first of all, I'm, I don't want to do, I'm not trying to do like um, fat stolen valor. You know, I know that there's like a lot of levels to weights and like I said, like my weight has been all over the place. So it's, it, you know, it's very different, but I do very frequently. Or people will be like, it's so good to have fat representation on dropout. And I'm like, oh. I think there's a lot of people of a lot of different weights on dropout. Um, and that's kind of interesting that you only see, I don't know, me as a certain way and maybe not the men as their weights. Just something to think about, but I, I really.

• 1:01:56Speaker 01

  But it's also drawing because you'll be like at the front line of the post office and someone screams that from the back and you have to be like.

• 1:02:02Speaker 00

  They're like, I love you fatty fat.

• 1:02:04Speaker 01

  I love your big fat ass. You're the best.

• 1:02:06Speaker 00

  And it's fine. Fat is not a bad word. There's nothing wrong with being fat.

• 1:02:10Drew Afualo?

  I say the same thing.

• 1:02:11Speaker 00

  But it, it is, it is weird to have people so kind of easily and comfortably comment on your weight.

• 1:02:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're fucking telling me.

• 1:02:20Speaker 00

  Um, and that's why I wanted to like bring it up because I'm like, I'm sure you, you know, because especially if you're tall, you like.

• 1:02:25Drew Afualo?

  Oh girl, my big fat ass. Yeah, they, they talk about me being big and fat all the time. They're always like, oh, I love that. You don't like, I love when I have bigger. Like I saw this one that was like, oh my God, I've had quite a few, but like there was a girl who DM'd me once and she was like, I just want to say a huge fan of your stuff. Love you. Uh, but also I really love that you wear a lot of strapless things because I also have huge linebacker shoulders. That's what she fucking wrote to me. I also have those and it makes me feel a little less insecure and maybe want to try a tube top every now and then. I hope you never try a tube top ever in your life, but also.

• 1:03:00Speaker 00

  Wrap that tube top around your mouth and nose and take a big breath.

• 1:03:04Drew Afualo?

  All the way up.

• 1:03:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm like, be quiet.

• 1:03:06Drew Afualo?

  It's also like, it doesn't offend me, but I can't believe that you think saying it to me that way would not, could not potentially offend me like. And any, like you said, have you ever spoken to a human ever?

• 1:03:18Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:03:19Drew Afualo?

  Like even when me and uh, Brittany were out recently, this woman walked by her and she goes, hey meme queen. Hey there meme queen. What the fuck? Like, and we walked away and she was like, you know why they say that? Cause she was like 50. So it was kind of confusing. And then she goes, you know why? Because they made me into a gif on Slack. And that's why, and old people send that gif all the fucking time. And that's why they say that bullshit to me like, hey meme queen. And I was like, well, at least that one's a little nicer.

• 1:03:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:03:49Drew Afualo?

  And big linebacker shoulders, but we both get shit like that. So.

• 1:03:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's like, I just don't, I just am like, well, you could be a fan of my work.

• 1:03:57Drew Afualo?

  Right, right. That's how I feel too. When, when women come up to me and they're like.

• 1:04:03Drew Afualo?

  I fucking love you, you fucking bitch. Yo, what the fuck?

• 1:04:08Speaker 01

  You mean fucking.

• 1:04:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're so.

• 1:04:10Speaker 01

  Fucking mean, you fucking bitch.

• 1:04:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I hate you.

• 1:04:13Speaker 01

  I love you bitch.

• 1:04:13Drew Afualo?

  We all hate you and I love you too. And you're like, what are we talking about? I don't know if you guys experience this because you guys are comedians and like writers, but you're also really funny naturally, like in conversation. So do you ever interact with people that you're like, they can almost tell that you're funny. They know that. So it almost feels like they're competing with you, just in normal human conversation.

• 1:04:34Speaker 01

  Literally any woman's husband I've ever met.

• 1:04:37Speaker 00

  Like this, they'll be like, you know, you'll be like, oh, oh, nice to meet you.

• 1:04:40Drew Afualo?

  Wait, are we going to say the same thing? They say, oh, you can dish it out, but you can't take it.

• 1:04:43Speaker 00

  You know, whatever. They'll, you'll be like, oh, nice to meet you. They'll be like, oh, okay, stupid. And then you're like, what? And then they're like, oh, oh, let me guess. You're a comedian who can, you can dish it out, but you can't take it.

• 1:04:52Drew Afualo?

  Every, every Uber I've ever been in. They're just, they're just insulting you.

• 1:04:56Speaker 00

  Always. And I'm like, we haven't done any jokes yet. I haven't been to a few. We're just meeting.

• 1:05:01Drew Afualo?

  Oh, are we starting now?

• 1:05:02Speaker 00

  Show, but yeah, it's always kind of like, oh, you dish it out, but you can't take it.

• 1:05:08Speaker 01

  Every, every taxi driver I've ever had, now I just.

• 1:05:12Drew Afualo?

  When you say you're in comedy.

• 1:05:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, they say, what do you do? You're in comedy? Yeah, I don't anymore, but I'll, I'll be like, I'm in comedy and they go, oh, you're ugly. Okay.

• 1:05:21Speaker 00

  They'll be like, oh, people laugh at you? People think you're funny? And I say, yeah. And they go, oh, oh, she's upset by that now. She's upset by the joke. Oh, she can dish it out, but she can't take it. I'm like, you don't even know what kind of, I can write children's television. You have no clue what I do. Really, within the comedy space. I'm like, what are you talking about?

• 1:05:38Drew Afualo?

  No, men, men, it's, it's terrible. Like even in like mixed conversation, like whether it's like. Cause sometimes women will come up to me and they'll like bring men with them, like whether it's a friend or a boyfriend or whatever. And they'll, they'll explain who I am, which I'm like, I don't need to be here for that part of the conversation. You could just approach me and then go explain it to him somewhere else. When I'm there and she's pointing at me like I'm on the whiteboard.

• 1:06:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:06:01Drew Afualo?

  That's the part that really pisses me off because I'm like, I don't need to be here for this. And she literally was, they'll be like, oh, she does this awesome thing where she like is so fucking mean to men. When you tell the average man that, they go, oh, really? Every time. Like they look at me and I go, yeah, pretty much. Cause I'm not going to sit here and explain to you what the fuck I do. You could drop dead. Like to that guy, that's how I feel. Like in my head, I'm like, I don't give a fuck. Like, but sometimes they'll be like, tell me a joke.

• 1:06:28Speaker 01

  Oh, good god.

• 1:06:29Drew Afualo?

  Tell me a joke. So, okay, tell me a joke. No.

• 1:06:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, I always say, I always say, I charge for that. I always just tell them, I charge for that. That costs money.

• 1:06:38Drew Afualo?

  I literally go, huh, no.

• 1:06:40Speaker 00

  I actually got it so good though. The other day I was at the airport. I was going through airport security. The guy looks mighty and he goes, okay, all right. And why are you in town? Or like, like what brought you here? I was like, uh, business. He's like, oh, what do you do? I was like, I'm a comedian. I'm on tour. And he was like, oh, comedian, tell me a joke. I said, I have to get to my flight. He was like, come on, tell me a joke. I was like, I know, I really don't have any, I don't have any jokes, whatever. Cause no matter what you say, it's not going to be good enough. No matter what, you could tell this person the funniest joke in the world. You could tell this man the funniest joke. He does not care. And so I was like, whatever. And then um, someone behind me heard the whole interaction and then leaned down and they were like, um, actually she's a, a really successful comedian. I like follow her online. She's like super funny. And I was like, damn, this feels good. And then we got through security and I told the woman, I was like, that was awesome. Thank you for doing that.

• 1:07:22Drew Afualo?

  I appreciate you. Thank you.

• 1:07:24Speaker 00

  I'm in that kind of situation all the time with a man demanding a joke from me. And that was the first time that's ever happened and it was really cool.

• 1:07:29Drew Afualo?

  I know. I, I, I hate when um, sometimes I'll talk to like all, I, it's rare that it's happened on this show, but like sometimes I'll. Work and like do like a commercial something or I'll do like something else where there's a set full of people. And then there will always be at least one man, especially if it's like a crew of like 30 or more. There will always be at least one guy who comes up to me at the end. And he'll be like, you know what? You're actually like, pretty funny.

• 1:07:54Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:07:56Drew Afualo?

  You're actually like low key funny, like.

• 1:07:58Speaker 01

  A hundred percent.

• 1:07:59Drew Afualo?

  Okay, guy holding camera. Thanks. You did a lot to me. Thank you.

• 1:08:02Speaker 01

  Need to get better at lying.

• 1:08:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:08:06Speaker 01

  Lost art. I don't know, even what you're saying where people are going, they're having to explain to their boyfriends who you are. The second Jordan, Jordan points to someone and goes, oh, you know, I immediately go, oh my God, of course.

• 1:08:18Drew Afualo?

  Of course, yes. How could I not? I love you. It's like, you lie, and I feel like it's all the time. These people are so honest, or they're late to something, and they're like, "Sorry, I'm late. I just like woke up late." Bad already. Bad already. Anytime I've been late, what do I say? So I'm, I have a fever and I'm, my car's upside down. I'll tell you the most colorful story you've ever fucking heard.

• 1:08:38Speaker 00

  But it's respectful.

• 1:08:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I agree.

• 1:08:40Speaker 00

  Someone brought that up to me one day. It's, she's like, "It's respectful to lie sometimes."

• 1:08:43Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 1:08:44Speaker 00

  And I agreed. I'm like, "If you don't even respect me enough to lie, you're just like, 'I'm late because the Dunkin' line was long.'"

• 1:08:50Drew Afualo?

  And I just didn't care.

• 1:08:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, and you're just like a random person I'm working with. I'm like, "Just lie a little bit."

• 1:08:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you can lie to me a little bit. When you say, sorry, I say, "When you say you were in a car crash and you show up with a Dunkin', that shows me you respect me." Right. To lie and know the importance of what you're late for. And I appreciate that. Thank you.

• 1:09:05Speaker 00

  Absolutely. Finish your story about the shy woman.

• 1:09:08Drew Afualo?

  Uh, wait, what's her? What shy woman?

• 1:09:10Speaker 00

  You said a woman always comes up and she's always kind of nervous.

• 1:09:12Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So she was basically like, it got to this point where I could tell, like, and obviously she's told me before, I'm a huge fan of yours, like I, and she's a working actress. So she was like, and she's in a very big show. So she was like, "I'm such a huge fan." Like, she's told me that offline. So I'm like, "Okay, cool." I've talked to her four times. So like, every time I see her, I'm like, "You should feel a little bit more comfortable talking to me." But you don't. Every time you meet me, it's like the first time you've ever met me, which is fine. But then when she, it, it gets into this thing where like, I know she wants to banter with me, but then it gets mean. Banter, it requires quickness. You know what I'm saying?

• 1:09:45Speaker 00

  It's a skill and not everyone has it.

• 1:09:47Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 1:09:48Speaker 00

  I'm always shocked. Well, I'm constantly...

• 1:09:51Drew Afualo?

  We were saying recently, because I, I was like, at the beginning of this year, when I have a conversation, if I'm in a group of people, my brain, I'm going, "Okay, that person said, uh, she said three sentences. That person she knows for, that person knows her. She hasn't spoken. I'm gonna ask you a question. Am I gonna come back around to you right after that?" I'm fully panicked that everyone feels included. And at the beginning of last year, I said, "Fuck it, I'm not doing this shit anymore." Right. I, someone needs to include me in a conversation. So I am not saying, and, and I know Jordan and I, anytime we're at a wedding or we're at a table with a bunch of people, they wish we were dead. We are, and, all right, we're gonna go around and who's from there and who's from there. Okay, rose and thorn. Rose and thorn. Let's go around. What was your rose? What was your thorn at the wedding? I've always, I'm like, "I'm not doing that anymore." So I started this year, I was like, "If a conversation dies down and I've already asked a couple of questions, I'm not saying anything."

• 1:10:37Drew Afualo?

  The amount of conversation. Good for you, Kendall. It's quiet. I like, can't believe, I'm like, "These people really are fine sitting at a table and not saying anything." They want to be fucking interviewed. Like, it's like, there's no like back and forth. So like, and she's so young, that I was like, I think it's, that also lends towards age, because I've talked about, obviously, a lot of young people now, they're media literate, but they're also just illiterate in general. Like, it's like, the art of conversation is fucking lost. So like, literally, I'm like, the way that, you know, we go around and we say things to each other, like, but even with her, I was like, I said that and it felt like she was low-key insulting me. Like, I was like, "What?" Yeah. And then, and then I was like, "Oh, okay. Uh, oh, I got, okay." And then she was like, and then it turns into, "Sorry, I said that joke and I was so fucking fu- not funny."

• 1:11:22Drew Afualo?

  It was like, so not funny, like, at all. And then I have to be like, "No, it was funny."

• 1:11:26Speaker 00

  It was so funny. It was the funniest thing I've ever heard.

• 1:11:28Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my god, no, it was funny. It was, as I'm trying to work, I'm like, "Oh, my god, oh, my god. Oh, my god." But it's literally because you guys know this probably better than anyone, like, a lot of actors, like, the personality is like missing. Like, they, they have to be given it in a script in order to be able to act, like...

• 1:11:42Speaker 00

  Well, that's why they're good at acting. They're fully, physically and mentally a blank slate.

• 1:11:46Drew Afualo?

  Yes, exactly.

• 1:11:47Speaker 00

  And then they're good at absorbing a role because nothing else is going on. And then they also are mentally unwell. Like, they're fully unhinged.

• 1:11:55Drew Afualo?

  But I feel bad, because I think sometimes, it used to be you could be insane, you know? Right, yeah. But now... You can't show any personality whatsoever, at all. To the point where it's been like, almost bled out of them, like, they don't have it anymore. They have nothing. Because there's some artists that I'm like, "Well, if we'd been, if they'd been having to do day in their life videos, like, who? If Ozzy Osbourne had to do day in their life videos." I guess he did. I guess he did. And did it make us like him? I don't know.

• 1:12:21Speaker 00

  Well, I would say, yeah, I do think it made us like him, but also he was wild. And like, everything on that show, he would be canceled for now. And I think it's just like, people are, people are wild.

• 1:12:29Drew Afualo?

  Or like Gwen Stefani. I don't know, these people that I'm like, if they were doing day in the life videos, it would be, I don't know, I'm trying to think of people. No, I get what you're saying. Because you're right. They're insane people. They're, like, they're artists. And then now, it's like, but you have to be both insane enough to be kind of an artist, but you also need to be palatable enough to not, to be on camera constantly. And I'm like, that is just very rare. Well, and I, I agree. And I, I'll say too, like, the inverse of that is us. Like, right? Like, we're, we're like personality first, and then like, we also have other skill. But like, I was at an event and I was like walking carpet and I was getting interviewed, and this woman, God bless her, she asked me, normal stuff, like, "How do you feel, whatever, blah, blah." The last question she asked me, she goes, "So, wedding of the summer coming up." I'm thinking to myself, because I wasn't married at that point, I was like,

• 1:13:15Drew Afualo?

  "I haven't told anyone." I thought she was talking about me, because she didn't clarify who she was talking about. And then she goes, "Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce." And I go, "Oh, okay." Me not even knowing they were getting married that summer. I was like, "I didn't know that, but okay." And then she goes, "What do you think their first dance, what do you think they're gonna dance to? Like, what song?" I don't give a fuck. Like, I remember, that was, she asked me that question and I go, "What do I think they're gonna dance to?"

• 1:13:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:41Drew Afualo?

  And she goes, "Yeah." I go, "God, I don't know, something white." Yeah. Like, and like that...

• 1:13:46Speaker 00

  Crazy frog.

• 1:13:49Drew Afualo?

  Like, Cotton Eye Joe? Bitch, I don't fucking know. What do y'all like? Sweet Caroline?

• 1:13:53Speaker 00

  And I know that. Right.

• 1:13:56Drew Afualo?

  We were just at a wedding, where I, I told Jordan, I said, "There is nothing fucking worse. Isn't it the only bad thing white people have to deal with, is being at a wedding that's mostly white people and they start playing Sweet Caroline and you feel..." They're gonna turn something over. It is. It's really scary. They're gonna flip a bus. Yeah. I literally was like, "Uh, something white." Like, and then that, there were two women of color on either side of her. They both busted up laughing. This woman felt, I think she felt offended because she was white, but she was like, like that, when I said it. And I go, like, if I had to guess, something like that, I said, "Should we put money on it?" And then she was like, "All right, thank you so much." And then she didn't use any of my clips. She hit you with the you. She said, "Okay, thank you very much. Good to see you."

• 1:14:40Drew Afualo?

  She pulled one of me, on me. I got got.

• 1:14:44Speaker 00

  Can I say, you seem like someone who would have been invited to the wedding. I feel like she's inviting all the cool...

• 1:14:49Drew Afualo?

  To the Taylor Swift wedding?

• 1:14:50Speaker 00

  Yes, I feel like she's inviting all the cool influencer creators, con, like comedians. Like, I feel like she wants to surround herself with people that are cool.

• 1:14:57Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 1:14:58Speaker 00

  And I feel like you are kind of the coolest. You're like...

• 1:15:01Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 1:15:01Speaker 00

  I, well, I feel like you're like, all these famous people's favorite person. And it seems like you would fall in that camp for her as well.

• 1:15:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you would think. Um, but I didn't, I think Jeff just took my invite.

• 1:15:12Speaker 00

  Oh, my god, he's always taking stuff from you.

• 1:15:14Drew Afualo?

  He's always taking stuff from me.

• 1:15:15Speaker 00

  Oh, I hate when that happens to you.

• 1:15:16Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my god. We have the same bank account, same, same build, side profile, he and I. I, I really do, like, I, I, when I get asked shit like that, and then we, we joke, like, we're like funny and witty and that, uh, sometimes, sometimes it hits, sometimes it doesn't. Yeah. I was like, and you know what? I was thinking, I was like telling my therapist this the other day, because I was telling her, like, the higher I ascend in this, or the more like big projects I get involved with, I was like telling her, "I really don't want that part of me to be bled out. Like, I don't want to give up that part of me. I think that's what sets me apart in a lot of ways." But I also think that's like, the beauty of the internet being a portal now, for a lot of people like us to be able to move into this industry and like make money doing it,

• 1:15:58Drew Afualo?

  is because we've been like, able to show what we can do, because any other way, we would not be able to access this kind of level. Like, we wouldn't be able to get in these places. That's what I always say. It's like my nepotism. Like, the internet is my nepotism on me. Hell, yeah.

• 1:16:10Speaker 00

  And this is what I was trying to say earlier.

• 1:16:12Drew Afualo?

  Oh, oh, that's what you were trying to say? Look at that.

• 1:16:15Speaker 00

  This is crazy. So we're, yes, we're very lucky, we're, you know, whatever. But at the same time, you know, this industry is hard and bad, and it's especially hard for people that aren't exorbitantly wealthy or, um, have connections. And, uh, you know, we feel grateful every day for the internet, because it has kind of let us do what we want to do.

• 1:16:34Drew Afualo?

  In the way you want to do it.

• 1:16:35Speaker 00

  In the way we want to do it, without having to like, suck the dick of like weird, old, nasty men that run this town.

• 1:16:42Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 1:16:42Speaker 00

  And it feels so cool, because like, you know, before we really like blew up doing stuff, Kendall was a janitor at a gym, and I was writing clickbait. For a website. Um, so, you know, we were like, totally fine, but it's just like, to get those opportunities, they're really hard to get when you're, you know, no matter how talented you are, skilled you are, kind you are, how hard you work, it's really hard to be afforded those opportunities. And I think, you know, the internet has done so much bad, but it's also done some good in life.

• 1:17:09Drew Afualo?

  Like, yeah, I agree. That's like one of the things I love about the internet. And that's like one of the things, like, no matter how many times they try to kill me. That's what I, I am thankful to the internet for, because I feel the same way, especially when you sit in margins. Like, it's, it's even harder to get in, and it's even harder to like, make a name for yourself or get the same opportunities, which is why I love y'all, because I think you guys move the same way I do in this business, where it's like, I know so many talented people that I could put in the right rooms if I got the chance to, and it doesn't matter if they have followers, it doesn't matter if they're famous, none of that shit matters to me. It's like, I get to bring people with me when I, the bigger I get, and the more opportunity I get, which I think is like, why I think we're like cosmically connected.

• 1:17:49Speaker 00

  Absolutely.

• 1:17:49Drew Afualo?

  I feel very connected to y'all.

• 1:17:50Speaker 00

  Yes, same.

• 1:17:51Drew Afualo?

  I feel the same way. Yeah, that's why I was like, after we talked for a while, I was like, "You guys want to come to my wedding?"

• 1:17:56Speaker 00

  I know, and we were so pissed. We couldn't have weird stupid plans for Kendall's fucking stupid birthday.

• 1:18:02Speaker 01

  Thanks a lot, Kendall.

• 1:18:04Speaker 00

  Mad. Um, but no, really, like every, you know, like, we're all like so busy with work and stuff and everything's so crazy. But anytime we see really anyone from your family, it's just like you, y'all are so normal and nice and real and like,

• 1:18:16Speaker 01

  grounded.

• 1:18:17Speaker 00

  It's just, it's so wild.

• 1:18:18Speaker 01

  But I think it's because you do bring people, because I think we continue to like, surround ourselves with the people that we were friends with before all of this.

• 1:18:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 1:18:27Speaker 01

  And obviously you meet people, but yeah, I mean, you know how sometimes you meet these people at these events, I say, oh my god.

• 1:18:33Drew Afualo?

  Sometimes when you meet, like especially when people ask me if I've ever met anybody rude, I'm always like, believe it or not, like the rudest people I've met have been like influencers and reality people. It's not even A-list talent. Like, I was like, a lot of A-list talent is not evil, like, or they're either nothing burger, they're a little, they're rude, or they're awesome. Like, and I was, I've always made this joke, I made this joke to Lucy Dacus when she was on the show, but I told her, like, I think in order to make it to a certain level here, you have to be just innately good, or just pure evil. That's the only way you survive and the only way you succeed. Because evil people will succeed no matter what, because they don't care about anyone.

• 1:19:09Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:19:09Drew Afualo?

  And the purely good people will make it, it's just gonna take a lot longer. Like, it's gonna take them a little bit longer to get there. So I feel the same way.

• 1:19:16Speaker 00

  But we also all are kept very humble, and I think, you know, I've seen the way your family speaks to you. And it's very similar to us, you know, like.

• 1:19:23Speaker 01

  That oughta do it.

• 1:19:24Speaker 00

  Kate, our producer's like one of our best friends, and Kate, I mean, every morning Kate is like, get up, you stupid bitch. You know what you're supposed to do, like, tell, like, whatever, and it's.

• 1:19:33Speaker 01

  She said, by the grace of god, you got this opportunity?

• 1:19:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:19:37Speaker 01

  Why don't you get up at work?

• 1:19:38Speaker 00

  It's really good. My parents do not care at all about this industry. My parents are happy for you, you know?

• 1:19:43Speaker 01

  Jordan's dad, every time we try to get him to listen to our podcast, he says the same thing. He goes, look, it's not my type of comedy. It's not my type of comedy.

• 1:19:53Speaker 00

  We're on the phone, he was, I, because we had Taylor Tomlinson on our podcast.

• 1:19:57Speaker 01

  I love her.

• 1:19:58Speaker 00

  I just, she's just a dream, but I was like, I don't know, we had her, do you know her? Because my dad is a fan of comedy, right? I do like a lot of comedy, and he was like, oh, he was like, no, I'm not familiar with her, I'll look her up. He said, you know who's my favorite blonde comedian? I said, yeah, I do. And he said, really? And I said, yeah. He goes, that blonde woman from The Daily Show. I just love her. He is my, she, she is my favorite blonde comedian. And I said, what about Kendall? My dad loves Kendall.

• 1:20:23Speaker 01

  You, you going, I think I do know. And he's talking about someone else.

• 1:20:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, and my parents love Kendall. Kendall's like their own child. Like, I was like, what about Kendall? My dad goes, Kendall? I don't really think of her as blonde or comedian.

• 1:20:37Speaker 00

  I said, who's that woman who's always in my house?

• 1:20:40Drew Afualo?

  She's 0 for 2 on both of those things, but okay.

• 1:20:43Speaker 00

  Alright, my guy, we'll see you later. But I think that's really good. I think it like, it keeps you very grounded, and I think it keeps you.

• 1:20:50Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 1:20:50Speaker 00

  Working hard and being like, I'm not the center of attention. I think a lot of people are hiring yes people.

• 1:20:56Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 1:20:56Speaker 00

  And then you become, you're, you're crazy.

• 1:20:58Drew Afualo?

  Girl, you're telling me. I, like, literally my grandpa, like, uh, when I first blew up on TikTok and I started doing this full-time, and I started the show and everything, and it was like, everything was taking off so fast. Uh, my grandpa's like, so your mom tells me that you're doing this like TikTok thing? And I go, yeah, yeah, I am. And he's like, you know, I have a TikTok. And I go, oh, really? Like, me not knowing that. I'm like, oh, really? He goes, yeah, but I haven't looked you up on there. And I go, oh, really? Why? And he goes, I don't need to see all that.

• 1:21:28Drew Afualo?

  All that? What are you talking about? I was like, what do you think I'm doing on there? And I go, grandpa, I'm just like telling jokes. And he goes, yeah, but I know who I like on TikTok. It's not me.

• 1:21:39Speaker 01

  My algorithm's incredibly curated.

• 1:21:41Drew Afualo?

  Even my brother, like, my brother was still in high school when I first blew up, and he was telling me, he was in school, and he was like, this girl in his class was talking to him, and she was talking about TikTok. And she was like talking about her, her favorite people on TikTok, and he was like, oh, my sister's on TikTok. And then she goes, oh, really? What's, what's her username? And then he goes, I don't know. And I go, it's my first and last name. You know both of those, you share one of them. And then he goes, well, how was I supposed to know that? I don't know, bitch, I've been doing it for three years. I thought maybe, no worries. I was like, that's the kind of shit I need. Like, even at my wedding, my, one of my uncles came, and he brought, he has, he has quite a few boys, but they're all like married and living other places, but he brought like the youngest, and he, for context,

• 1:22:23Drew Afualo?

  he has downs. But he is so funny. Like, he's one of the funniest people I've ever met. And even at my wedding, like, my mom goes, you ready to go? And he goes, like, because they were about to leave, it's like after hours of being at the reception, and he was like, ugh, yes. And she was like, did you have fun? He goes, no, I didn't.

• 1:22:42Drew Afualo?

  And she goes, why not? And he goes, it's hot. It's hot here.

• 1:22:45Speaker 01

  I get that.

• 1:22:46Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god. And then, like, my uncle was like, okay, we're gonna leave, and he ran to the car, like, he just took off into the dark. Like, he was like, I'll be in the car, if you guys need me, I'll be in the car. The way that bitch was like, no, I didn't have fun. Get me out of here.

• 1:22:57Speaker 00

  I don't like her, I didn't have fun, I didn't want to be here.

• 1:22:59Drew Afualo?

  I barely know that bitch.

• 1:23:01Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:23:01Drew Afualo?

  I've known him since he was born. He's like, I barely know her, oh my god.

• 1:23:05Speaker 00

  Yes, yeah, strangers need to be nice to you, and your family needs to be mean to you.

• 1:23:08Drew Afualo?

  That's, that's the recipe. Okay, I'm gonna speed through some of these last. Yeah, no, no, no, are you kidding? This is the best. Okay. So this one says, Kendall, won homecoming sophomore princess.

• 1:23:18Speaker 01

  Okay, you could have lied and said queen.

• 1:23:23Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:23:24Drew Afualo?

  But they were supposed to be facts.

• 1:23:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. Now everyone's gonna know I've been lying for years about winning homecoming queen. It's actually so embarrassing because, so, in, at my school, I don't know how it works at other schools, but at my school, if you're in a club, you can be nominated. Each club nominates a person.

• 1:23:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that was how, it was like that at our high school, too.

• 1:23:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, so it's not people who are popular, it's people who are trying to get into college. It's very different. It is people who are doing extracurriculars, this is not popular people. No cheerleaders on the court, it was just if you're in extracurricular. I was the president of my improv team. So I was in charge of nominating.

• 1:23:57Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:23:57Speaker 01

  So you bet your ass every year I was nominated as the girl. For, at the moment, we did not do votes, we would vote on the guys.

• 1:24:06Drew Afualo?

  I read your guys' minds. I know who it is.

• 1:24:08Speaker 01

  I will be nominated, of course. And then I would, all the other girls who won queen, they don't even hardly know they've been nominated. They're like, oh, whatever. I am standing at the voting table, doing, I, I'm, who are you gonna vote for? Alright, I would really appreciate your vote, I'm.

• 1:24:23Drew Afualo?

  You're campaigning.

• 1:24:24Speaker 01

  I'm campaigning, I'm making buttons, I'm texting people. I know, I know. And even still, couldn't, couldn't pull out queen.

• 1:24:32Drew Afualo?

  You couldn't, damn. You're doing boots on the ground.

• 1:24:35Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:24:35Drew Afualo?

  You know, what's, that reminds me when I was, um, I think a freshman in high school? Yeah, I think a freshman in high school. Um, there was like, we would have this like ASB, like student council, so it'd be like president, vice president, whatever. And, uh, this girl that was a senior, she was gonna be senior the next year, she was running for president, and like, the, the point is, like, they would have this big, like, fucking, what do you call it, assembly? And you would have a big booth, and it would have a theme, and that was you campaigning to like be voted for. And each year had a, had a theme, right? And so you would pick someone that you felt was like popular in that grade to go and influence everyone to go vote for you. So this girl asked me, like, she, for, for ninth grader, she was like, hey, would you be on like my little council and whatever?

• 1:25:16Drew Afualo?

  And I was like, oh, hell yeah, like, because I got to skip school, so I was like, oh, fuck yeah, I'd love to do that. And then she was like, okay, the theme this year for the booths is Disney. So my booth is Toy Story. And I was like, okay, cool. And she goes, so dress up as anyone from Toy Story, I'm gonna be Jessie, but like you can be anybody else, like. And she told me who the other people were being, I'm like, okay, word, got it, no worries. And then I went home, and then I was like, I dress as Stinky Pete, obviously. Now, could I have picked a more main character? Sure. But I already had the overalls. So I was like, well, I have the overalls, so I might as well. And I remember when I put it on, I just had a long red sleeve, like a, a long sleeve red shirt, overalls, I had cowboy boots,

• 1:25:56Drew Afualo?

  and then I had like a hat that barely fit my fucking head. And then I was like, okay, perfect. And then I had like a little thing that I was pretending was my pickaxe. And when I got ready for school, my sister was like, you're supposed to dress up for the thing. I go, I am. And she was like, who are you?

• 1:26:10Speaker 01

  She's not even a regular.

• 1:26:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was like, she goes, who are you supposed to be? And I was like, I'm Stinky Pete. Like, Prospector Pete, well, Stinky Pete, I kept calling him Stinky Pete. I go to school, the way that bitch was so mad at me. Like, when I showed up, she goes, who are you supposed to be?

• 1:26:23Speaker 01

  Drew, honestly, I see all five. I don't know who that is. I have never.

• 1:26:28Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, it's, it's in the second one. He's the one who tries to kill all of them at the end. He's the villain.

• 1:26:33Speaker 01

  The bear?

• 1:26:35Speaker 00

  That's the.

• 1:26:35Drew Afualo?

  That's the third or fourth one. Yeah. No, no, no, this is the one where like with, it's Jessie's introduced to the cast. And then you have Bullseye, who I could have been, but I'm like horse, I'm gonna be a horse. I'm gonna be an old man. And I, for some.

• 1:26:49Speaker 01

  That's offensive.

• 1:26:49Drew Afualo?

  It's falling in line with the King George thing. I really do love to cross-dress, like, maybe that's why they were transvestigating me not too long ago. But I honestly.

• 1:26:58Speaker 00

  If people did as much toward the government as they did towards you.

• 1:27:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:04Speaker 00

  Mamdani would be president of the United States.

• 1:27:06Drew Afualo?

  We'd have a million Mamdani's.

• 1:27:09Speaker 00

  Literally everything, he'd run the whole country, we'd have free healthcare.

• 1:27:12Drew Afualo?

  Hell, yeah.

• 1:27:13Speaker 00

  Every time I see anything about you, I'm literally moments away from making a thirty minute long video. Being like, this is why you all need to be put down.

• 1:27:24Speaker 00

  So sick, but no one cares about me enough, so.

• 1:27:28Drew Afualo?

  Isn't that, isn't that always the case? And honestly, I showed her, I remember her, because she was like this really pretty, popular blonde girl. And I think she genuinely was confused why I dressed like a boy. Genuinely confused, like she was like, why would you do, like she was honestly annoyed at me, like she was genuinely mad at me and I was like, oh, I'm sorry, I'm fucking hilarious. I literally was like, I was all day, I was like, I was like, yee-haw, like I was just doing that shit. Nobody asked me to do that. But I guess like, performance is in my blood, so I was like.

• 1:27:58Speaker 00

  No one asked you to do this. And here you are, dressed like.

• 1:28:03Drew Afualo?

  To be fair, you're right. You got me there.

• 1:28:07Drew Afualo?

  That's what I'm saying, I'm like. First of all, I love to cross dress, so it is that, it is what it is, you know? Okay, next one says, when Jordan was eleven, you were in a community theater production of Alice in Wonderland. And the director told you to take an improv class because you didn't know how to ad lib.

• 1:28:22Speaker 00

  That's what started my whole career.

• 1:28:23Drew Afualo?

  No way.

• 1:28:24Speaker 00

  I did community theater, I was in, I was in, yeah, theater camp because my parents worked during the day. And so I had to go somewhere and I went to my like local community theater camp, I got Alice and through the looking glass and then there was this scene where I was supposed to be like falling down the hole.

• 1:28:40Drew Afualo?

  Can you believe?

• 1:28:42Speaker 00

  I'm a natural blonde, a lot of people don't know this, but I am a natural blonde, I dye my hair brown. And so I was pretending to like fall down the hole or whatever and this woman, this director is like yelling at me like, ad lib, ad lib, ad lib. And I'm like eleven, I'm like, I don't know what that means, but you don't admit that because that's embarrassing. So she's like, ad lib, and I'm like.

• 1:29:03Speaker 00

  And she's like, cut, cut, cut, she's like, you're bad at improv, you need to take an improv.

• 1:29:08Drew Afualo?

  I'm eleven, by the way.

• 1:29:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, but of course, I was like, you know, I was like, the director hates me, I am bad at improv. I'm gonna ask my parents what that is and then take a class. And my community theater, the Fort Lauderdale Children's Theater, who's, you know, still very active today. Really like formed what I do today and you know, did so, so much for me and they are the reason why I am where I am today.

• 1:29:30Drew Afualo?

  And you are so good at improv.

• 1:29:33Speaker 00

  Literally so nice, thank you.

• 1:29:34Speaker 01

  Literally whenever we go see, like, anytime we go see, we go to the WNBA, oh my god, let me say that again, sorry. We go to the WNBA games all the time. And when they're like running out and it's like so cool, I literally told Jordan, I'm like, that is what it feels like when you go out and you do improv.

• 1:29:51Drew Afualo?

  You're coming out the tunnel?

• 1:29:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, like when I watch them call you out for ass cat, like this is what it's like.

• 1:29:58Speaker 01

  Cause there is like a scary moment, like I know when we first started dating, it's like, okay, it's like the first time I'm gonna see Jordan do improv. If she is a certain level of bad, no matter how much I love you. I cannot do that.

• 1:30:11Drew Afualo?

  I feel the same way.

• 1:30:12Speaker 01

  So relieved when she's like the funniest improviser.

• 1:30:14Drew Afualo?

  No, genuinely, it's funny you say that too, because when I first started dating my husband.

• 1:30:19Drew Afualo?

  My sister, like I think we had been dating for like a few months, my sister goes, I have to tell you something. And I go, what? She goes, I don't think he's that funny. And I was like, you need to take that right fucking back, right now, I'm not even kidding, this is me being so serious, I'd rather them think he was ugly. Than think he's not funny, I, fuck I look like being with an unfunny person, are you nuts? I know I'm funnier, but like, that's always gonna be the case.

• 1:30:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, we can't compare.

• 1:30:43Drew Afualo?

  No, fuck no, and I literally remember the next time I saw him, I was like, listen, when you see my family next, you better pull it out, bitch. I better see top shelf jokes, ho, I'm not kidding, I literally told him, my sister thinks you're not funny, you better prove her wrong. And it's funny because my, my husband is so like objectively handsome, like he's objectively a very good looking guy. So obviously naturally you would assume he's not funny at all, he is extremely funny, but like he was doing these like, I would say five to ten jokes. That I think would kill with the average person.

• 1:31:16Drew Afualo?

  That being said, you're talking to someone who comes from a family of comedians, like literally my family is the funniest people I've ever met, so I was like. Whenever he would workshop those in random conversation, silence. The way my family, my family's never gonna pity laugh, so like if it's not funny, it's silent. And so I remember she was like, I have to tell you something, like it was like, she was breaking the news.

• 1:31:42Drew Afualo?

  So, and it's funny because she's one of the funniest people I've ever met, so I was like, I literally told him, I was like, you better pull it fucking out, bitch. Get that lead out right now, I was like, you, I better see guffaws at the next fucking dinner, otherwise this isn't gonna work.

• 1:32:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we're married, yeah, we cleared that hurdle, thank god. It was, it was, it was a dark period though, for a minute, I was like, oh my god, and I remember thinking, I've, I've been walking around, telling everyone how in love I am. And they think he's not funny, I was like, literally thinking, I was like, I can't have that.

• 1:32:17Speaker 01

  What a joke he is.

• 1:32:20Drew Afualo?

  And even with Taylor Thomason, when she was on my show the first time, she, I told her that we, he, I asked him, who do you think's funnier between the two of us? And he was like, well, you, obviously, and I was like, it's a good answer, because that's the right answer. So I appreciate that, and then she was like, well, that would be insane if at this point in your career, he was like, probably equal.

• 1:32:42Speaker 01

  Maybe fifty fifty draw. But you know, so many female comedians' husbands think that.

• 1:32:49Speaker 01

  Well, she's a comedian, but only because I haven't really tried.

• 1:32:52Drew Afualo?

  I don't have the time, if I have the time.

• 1:32:54Speaker 00

  It's a real like Marvelous Mrs Maisel situation.

• 1:32:58Drew Afualo?

  Okay, I have, I have one more fun fact, this one's about Kendall. In high school, Kendall was in her Nevada high school improv league called Comedy Sports. Interesting.

• 1:33:10Speaker 01

  I was.

• 1:33:10Drew Afualo?

  A blending of worlds.

• 1:33:16Speaker 01

  No, it was, if you're doing improv right, you're getting on the ground, you have to wear comfortable clothes.

• 1:33:20Drew Afualo?

  It's very physical.

• 1:33:21Speaker 01

  Yes, I was, you know, if I have one regret in my life, it's I should have been kinder those years to the members of my improv team.

• 1:33:33Speaker 01

  There's a few people in specific, I took that so seriously, if you've ever watched the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders.

• 1:33:40Speaker 01

  The woman that runs that, that was me, the second I got an ounce of power in that group, which once again, it was, it's a small group. So I was really leading who was in charge.

• 1:33:49Drew Afualo?

  You said, guys.

• 1:33:49Speaker 01

  Myself in charge.

• 1:33:50Drew Afualo?

  We gotta take this seriously.

• 1:33:52Speaker 01

  And I was, I was horrible, I was like, if you don't have the talent, I literally remember. You don't get in, I'm not doing gimmies here, you're not getting in the show, you're lucky I let you come practice with us. You're not getting put in a show because you've been here a long time, I don't care if you're graduating your mom's stick.

• 1:34:11Drew Afualo?

  When the lights come up, honey, I was fucking insane. You know who's gonna look bad, me, if I put you on that stage.

• 1:34:17Speaker 01

  And then people lose respect and then everyone wants to be in the show, and, and, but I will tell you, guess who would win? We would win at those competitions. When I was in charge, we won, and the second I left, oh, I don't know if there's much winning, I don't know, I don't know.

• 1:34:28Drew Afualo?

  Don't wanna say it was all me, but you know, pattern recognition, I guess. You know what's funny, you said community theater and that too, like, it's, my brother recently was in a community theater production of High School Musical. And we were so fucking fired up for him, he got Troy and Zeke, so he was playing on different days. Which we were like blown away when he told us he got both, and then, it's funny because later on, like when he was in rehearsals, when he's in tech. He was, he texts my husband and he was like, hey Billy, do you think that you would ever wanna audition for High School Musical? Like in the community theater, he asked my husband that, literally this year, and my husband goes, no.

• 1:35:09Drew Afualo?

  No, thank, he's like, oh, they just need more guys, so I figured, mind you, like my husband's in his thirties, I'm like, he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. But it was funny because he, I remember at one point he was telling us about rehearsals and stuff and he was telling me and my sister, that he was like, yeah, I was giving some pointers. To other people in the cast, and we're, like Jason was like, wait, like you were saying these out loud to other people? Cause he was like just telling us, he goes, well, yeah, I want them to get better. And she was like, okay, but you don't know anything about acting, so maybe, don't, like, maybe don't. And then the funniest thing about my brother, he's like, you don't know, but, he'll literally be like, okay, yeah, sure. But even like, we went and watched him, it was funny, there's probably maybe thirty people total in there and my family's about twenty one of them, so like.

• 1:35:54Drew Afualo?

  And then the director and the producer were two of them, so, not many people, but my family was there, we all had shirts on. Like, we were so excited, we were kinda pissed off because they switched him to Zeke that night instead of Troy, which we were annoyed about, but like. We went and we watched him and it's funny because the whole production, he was in a completely different outfit. Like the other two leads are in the same exact uniform, and then he's in his own clothes. And I was, and he had a backpack on, nobody else had that, so like they had, they had uniforms and they also had Letterman jackets, my brother's not wearing any of that, we're like. And so like my brother, obviously he's so special and he's so funny, but he's been bullied before, like in school, so when we were like talking about it, we were like. That's so mean, like they didn't include him, like in the, in the uniforms, like my mom was like, don't worry, I'm gonna talk to him about it.

• 1:36:39Drew Afualo?

  And mind you, like he kills, he did a great job, we finished the show afterwards, this is a separate story, but like, we were all waiting, twenty one of us, I'm not kidding, that is twenty one of us in this production. We're all waiting, we have flowers, like suffered to give him, and then he's walking to his car. My dad sees him outside, because my dad went to get something from his own car, he passes my brother like that, like my brother walks, just walks right past him. My dad goes, hey, where are you going? He goes, I'm exhausted, I'm going home.

• 1:37:07Drew Afualo?

  There's twenty people, get your ass inside, he's like, did you see everyone? He goes, who? Your family, they're waiting for you, he goes, oh, walks back in. So what I, I remember like my mom drove him afterwards, she was like, oh, I'll ride with him, and she was like, oh, let's go to In-N-Out, it's like late, like. And we'll talk about, we'll debrief the show, my brother's like, oh, can you drive, I'm exhausted. My mom goes, okay, she's driving, she goes, hey, so like, did they not include you like in the uniform thing, like what was that? He goes, oh, like the Letterman jacket and stuff? She goes, yeah, he goes, oh, it's in my trunk. My mom goes, it's in the trunk of your car right now? He goes, yeah, I just, I just felt like Zeke would be wearing this. I felt like this is more like his vibe.

• 1:37:50Drew Afualo?

  My mom goes, why don't you wear the fucking outfit they gave you? And then he goes, I just thought I, I knew better, so, and so my mom's like, just put on the fucking clothes, because he looks like, he looked like he didn't even go to the school. I already filed a report with the.

• 1:38:05Speaker 00

  If you could just put the

• 1:38:06Drew Afualo?

  Here I am thinking you're getting bullied and you're making creative choices like what the fuck? So my mom went to every single show. There was like four of them and she said like the next one she went to to see him. He was wearing like a headband because he has really long hair. So he's wearing a headband. It was black. He sweats a lot. So it was like catching a lot of the sweat. My mom says that the next one she goes to, he goes out, he's in the uniform. Granted, he did have the Letterman jacket on and stuff, but his headband, it was black in the first like time she saw him.

• 1:38:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:30Drew Afualo?

  He goes behind stage, comes back, different outfit, bright blue headband.

• 1:38:34Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:38:35Drew Afualo?

  And it's like the, the opposite team is blue. So it's confusing.

• 1:38:38Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 1:38:38Speaker 01

  But he has a whole behind the scenes. He said, Zeke was like, maybe I should switch schools.

• 1:38:42Drew Afualo?

  Right, right.

• 1:38:43Speaker 01

  My dad's getting divorced from my mom and I don't know if I should stay.

• 1:38:46Drew Afualo?

  Maybe that's the character work I'm working on. So then he goes back, my mom goes, he goes back, comes out, light gray headband.

• 1:38:52Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 1:38:52Drew Afualo?

  Comes back, goes around again, stripes. Bro, what the fuck? I was like, he's doing wig changes back there?

• 1:38:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:38:58Drew Afualo?

  And then my mom goes, yeah, when I asked him, why are you doing creative shit again with the outfit? He goes, no, all the black ones are dirty. So I just had to switch them. And my mom was like, every act? Why are you switching them every? Go back to the black ones. All that to say, my brother is an artist. So it's in the family.

• 1:39:14Speaker 00

  And that's what community theater is.

• 1:39:15Drew Afualo?

  He's a scars guard. He's a scars guard at the end of the day. Yeah. So I commend, I love that you were in community theater because my brother was having a fucking blast like doing it.

• 1:39:24Speaker 00

  And they'll really like to do whatever. I'll, I'll never forget. I'm, I'm, my friend, who's still one of our good friends, my friend Alexa, who I grew up with. Uh, her mom Patty, who has since passed away, who is such a wonderful woman. She worked at the community theater and directed all the shows. And I'll never forget, she called me on the phone and she said, okay, you know, we're, we're doing Beauty and the Beast. I know you auditioned. I, I want to pitch something that's a little different, but I think it's, you know, going to be really cool for you. And I was like, okay, I'm listening. And she was like, it is a lead. And I was like, perfect. I'll do it. And she was like, it's, um, LaFou, who is the kind of little olive of a man that follows Gaston around.

• 1:39:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, the gay, the gay guy.

• 1:39:58Speaker 00

  The gay, little chubby guy, you know? And I'm like a 13 year old girl, right? So I think she's like, we're done. And I was like, no, no, this is perfect. I can really sink my teeth into this.

• 1:40:06Drew Afualo?

  You're so me.

• 1:40:08Speaker 00

  Oh, good. I'm getting something different than everyone else. I'm a star.

• 1:40:11Drew Afualo?

  And it's still a lead. So that's what I care about.

• 1:40:13Speaker 00

  I was so excited. It was the first like comedic role I had ever done.

• 1:40:16Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:17Speaker 00

  Um, which really like one thing like really changed the trajectory of my life. And she saw that in me and gave me that.

• 1:40:22Drew Afualo?

  Love.

• 1:40:22Speaker 01

  She saw the LaFou within you.

• 1:40:24Speaker 00

  She saw it. She's on the battle day guy and it's on me and on the outside of me. And she let me do it. And I just remember there were things where like, I remember one rehearsal I stood up and I was like, I just feel like during this dance number, right now it's choreographed where I'm dancing with everyone else, but I am a lead. And I think it would make more sense if I was doing cartwheel, round off cartwheel across the stage during this number.

• 1:40:46Drew Afualo?

  Thoughts?

• 1:40:47Speaker 00

  And of course, all the adults are like, whatever you want. Completely fine.

• 1:40:51Drew Afualo?

  Okay, sure.

• 1:40:52Speaker 00

  That's fine. And I would come out during curtain call and my hair was in like, you know, a little ponytail or whatever. I would come out during curtain call and I would take my hair out of my hair.

• 1:41:01Speaker 00

  As if I was doing like a big reveal that I was a girl. If my acting had been so good.

• 1:41:05Drew Afualo?

  And everyone would be like, oh.

• 1:41:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, people thought I was an adult man playing this role. But it really, once again, it's like, it really, I think stuff like that is so important.

• 1:41:14Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 1:41:14Speaker 00

  Lets you do that kind of stuff. And like,

• 1:41:16Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 1:41:16Speaker 00

  It's so, it's not just fun. It's, it's really, uh, confidence building.

• 1:41:20Speaker 01

  It builds your confidence. And there's no confidence like that age. Like I,

• 1:41:23Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 1:41:24Speaker 01

  I feel like now I'm kind of successful and I still am like, well, I'm an idiot loser and I don't have anything.

• 1:41:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you feel less confident as you get older.

• 1:41:31Speaker 01

  Versus when I was on that improv team, I'm not even kidding. I would walk through the hall. I was on the improv team. I was a virgin, if you could believe it. I'm walking through the halls. I'm going, everyone is looking at me.

• 1:41:43Speaker 00

  No pictures, please.

• 1:41:44Speaker 01

  Literally, I was thinking, and everyone's going, well, there she goes. She's going to be incredibly successful as a comedian.

• 1:41:51Speaker 00

  Nicole Kidman Jr. over there.

• 1:41:53Speaker 01

  These people do not know my name. I think I am so good. And then I remember like just blind confidence where I would audition every year for the musical. And like, I was, Jordan can tell you, how bad am I at singing, honey?

• 1:42:08Speaker 01

  I am bad at singing. I would audition every year for the lead.

• 1:42:11Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 1:42:11Speaker 01

  I wouldn't even audition for, oh, maybe they'll give me mine. I would only, I said, I'm clearly only going to do a lead. People will be confused.

• 1:42:16Speaker 00

  Well, I'm offer only.

• 1:42:20Speaker 01

  I would never get, and then it would always be some made up thing. The poor teacher would come in and be like, okay, sweetheart, we, we're going to do something new this year called student director.

• 1:42:29Drew Afualo?

  There's no small roles, only small actors.

• 1:42:32Speaker 01

  So you're going to stand next to me and you won't be in the show, but you'll kind of make the show what it is.

• 1:42:37Drew Afualo?

  And then you'll be like, you know what? You're so right. I'm too big for this.

• 1:42:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42:41Speaker 00

  Make the show what it is. Someone's got to do it.

• 1:42:44Speaker 01

  And then I'm telling everyone, well, you know, they've never had a, a student director before this young.

• 1:42:48Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:42:49Speaker 01

  But, um, they kind of decided this year would be,

• 1:42:52Drew Afualo?

  This is the year.

• 1:42:53Speaker 01

  Because I, you know, I've assumed different than something that's happened before. And I just was an asshole.

• 1:42:57Drew Afualo?

  It's, it's the beaut, it's the most beautiful thing. And I think that's like a common thread we share, like being in this industry, like, because I joke about it a lot where I'm like, we definitely, you have to love attention to some extent in this industry in order to keep doing it and sustain doing it. But like it, it, there is a line, obviously.

• 1:43:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:43:13Drew Afualo?

  Uh, but I've had the exact same experiences in terms of like stage production, anything like that. Like, there was this big play we used to do in elementary school and my sister got a main role when, um, like the year before me. So I remember thinking, I'm going to go for that one. Like, it was like, there were two main girls and two main guys. And she got one of the best ones because that was the funny one.

• 1:43:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:43:31Drew Afualo?

  And I remember I went and auditioned and I was like, obviously no other role, just that one. I was the same way. I was like, no, I don't need a background. I'm going to do that one. And then I did the audition. I don't even remember what it was, but I remember leaving and telling all my friends, I fucking nailed it.

• 1:43:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:43:46Drew Afualo?

  Fucking nailed that shit, bro. I literally was like, it's really just a matter of who's going to be my understudy.

• 1:43:51Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:43:52Drew Afualo?

  I'm like telling everyone, like, I was so confident, bitch, I didn't get one role.

• 1:43:55Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 1:43:55Drew Afualo?

  I didn't even get a small one. They put me in the chorus. I was like, oh, oh. And they put me in the back because I was humongous. Cause I was 5'2".

• 1:44:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:44:02Drew Afualo?

  So I literally, they put me in the back and I remember thinking, they don't even know what they're missing. Like,

• 1:44:06Speaker 01

  Well, and then you're mad. You're so mad. I remember when I didn't get cast in Grease.

• 1:44:10Drew Afualo?

  Oh, bitch.

• 1:44:11Speaker 01

  Lord, it was, I was awful. I was awful. Of course I only wanted to be Sandy. I said, I'll be the lead. And then I didn't get in and I had the audacity to try to get other people who had been cast to talk shit with me, being like, and I'm sure you're, you saw.

• 1:44:26Speaker 00

  You're not as good as me, right?

• 1:44:29Speaker 01

  And I remember crying. I remember sitting, I remember calling my best friend Dylan and saying, meet me at the college. We had a community college in our town that had a koi pond. I said, meet me at the damn koi pond. I'm crying there. He's been cast. And I'm like, what are they? Are they idiots? Are they idiots?

• 1:44:45Drew Afualo?

  Let's do a walkout. You're like, let's stage a coup. They can't keep getting away with this. It's just you.

• 1:44:51Speaker 01

  I'm sure in his mind being like, well, you're the youngest person to audition. You're horrible at singing. You're not as talented as you think you are.

• 1:44:57Drew Afualo?

  Singing is kind of a big part of it. So, and you're like, okay.

• 1:45:02Speaker 00

  That being said, I do wish I always, I'm like, God, wouldn't it be nice if they did just kind of like an adult production of like Little Shop of Horrors? That was just all personality driven, you know?

• 1:45:11Drew Afualo?

  I would love that because it would be my dream to be able to be on Broadway, but I can't sing for shit.

• 1:45:16Speaker 00

  I feel like, and if you're listening, any producers out there,

• 1:45:19Drew Afualo?

  Hello.

• 1:45:19Speaker 00

  I feel like,

• 1:45:20Speaker 01

  Here we go, this portion of the interview.

• 1:45:23Speaker 00

  With some other successful people who are not good at singing.

• 1:45:26Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:45:26Speaker 00

  I think we could get kind of like a, a, a personality only Broadway.

• 1:45:31Speaker 01

  But Jordan's good at singing.

• 1:45:32Speaker 00

  I'm okay.

• 1:45:33Drew Afualo?

  I know you are good. And you know what? I'm sure you are because everyone who talks like that and anyone who talks like us is for real. But when you talk like that, you can sing. Like when we talk, I can't sing for shit. Like it's, no, I bet you can sing.

• 1:45:45Speaker 00

  I can, I'm not toned up. I can sing fine, but I had to accept at a young age that I was not good enough at singing to be the lead or do musical theater for a career.

• 1:45:56Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 1:45:57Speaker 00

  Uh, you know, yeah. So you and I are in that same boat.

• 1:45:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, but I do love Broadway.

• 1:46:01Speaker 00

  I love Broadway. I'm like, one night only. You don't think they would let us do Little Shop of Horrors?

• 1:46:04Speaker 01

  They're letting anybody do it one night only now.

• 1:46:07Drew Afualo?

  Not us, but.

• 1:46:08Speaker 00

  We need Todd some fun.

• 1:46:09Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:46:10Speaker 00

  And we're all in it. We get some other people that, you know, aren't good at singing and we all do it together.

• 1:46:14Speaker 01

  Well, that's the only thing. I'm like,

• 1:46:15Drew Afualo?

  Broadway?

• 1:46:15Speaker 00

  I'm on one night on Broadway.

• 1:46:17Speaker 01

  Just one night, one night, one night.

• 1:46:18Drew Afualo?

  Little theater.

• 1:46:19Speaker 00

  Well, but you know, I think, you don't think we could sell out a Broadway theater? We could sell out theaters bigger than that.

• 1:46:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, hello. They're not that big.

• 1:46:26Speaker 01

  Oh, you think we could sell out Broadway?

• 1:46:28Speaker 00

  It's for a charity, one night only. I think we could do it. And I think someone's listening. I think someone's listening that will think it's a good idea. And I think they should contact us.

• 1:46:34Drew Afualo?

  I think so too. And there's no singing whatsoever. But if we do, then you guys praise my singing, no matter what.

• 1:46:38Speaker 00

  We do it like Singing in the Rain where we're all mouthing it, the songs, and then someone's behind the curtain actually singing.

• 1:46:44Drew Afualo?

  Yes, yes. We could do an Ashley Simpson on SNL kind of deal.

• 1:46:47Speaker 00

  Absolutely.

• 1:46:47Drew Afualo?

  I would love that. We're just talking about lip singing, but I would love that. We, we cast the real singers. They stand behind their curtain and I go out there.

• 1:46:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:46:54Drew Afualo?

  And I was, or I was like, I don't know. There's no, there's no like quirky best friend that doesn't sing.

• 1:46:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:46:58Drew Afualo?

  Come on, come on. Throw it to me. I can do it.

• 1:47:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:47:02Drew Afualo?

  All three of us can do it.

• 1:47:03Speaker 00

  Listen, I'm, this time next year, we will have a one night only Broadway show. I really like feel it.

• 1:47:10Speaker 01

  You know what's going to hurt? When everyone does it and we don't get invited to it.

• 1:47:14Drew Afualo?

  That's a great idea. Let's pick other people.

• 1:47:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's an awesome idea.

• 1:47:19Drew Afualo?

  Okay. Well, did you find the fax fun?

• 1:47:21Speaker 00

  I always find it fun.

• 1:47:23Speaker 01

  Oh, we do.

• 1:47:23Speaker 00

  I look forward to it.

• 1:47:24Drew Afualo?

  Okay. No worries, Amanda. You still have a job. Oh, she's not even in here.

• 1:47:27Speaker 01

  She quit before she,

• 1:47:28Drew Afualo?

  You'll see. Yeah, she quit before she got fired. She knew. Well, thank y'all so much for coming back. I fucking love y'all.

• 1:47:34Speaker 01

  We love you.

• 1:47:35Drew Afualo?

  You're the best.

• 1:47:36Speaker 00

  And we feel so honored to be here.

• 1:47:38Drew Afualo?

  I am so like genuinely grateful to have crossed paths with y'all, but I also think that the two of you are so wonderful and so talented. And I like really do think that you guys are gonna do something huge. Like, I really do believe that in my soul, and this is the place where we manifest everything.

• 1:47:55Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:47:55Drew Afualo?

  So, I do wanna ask, do you guys have any advice for any aspiring comedians, writers, or any, anyone in between?

• 1:48:02Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh, I love that.

• 1:48:04Speaker 00

  Do you wanna go first?

• 1:48:05Speaker 01

  Go first. You can go first.

• 1:48:07Speaker 00

  Always be early.

• 1:48:09Drew Afualo?

  Ooh, tea.

• 1:48:10Speaker 00

  That's a big one. I would say so many of the jobs that I've gotten in this industry are solely just because other people don't show up on time and act professional.

• 1:48:18Drew Afualo?

  That's such a great point.

• 1:48:19Speaker 00

  I think it's like a really underrated things that, it's a really underrated thing that people really appreciate and remember. And just be nice to everybody. You never know who you're gonna work with again.

• 1:48:28Drew Afualo?

  That's a big one.

• 1:48:28Speaker 00

  You know, I know people say shit like that, but it really is true. I audition so rarely. I mostly book things through people I've worked with that have had a good experience.

• 1:48:40Drew Afualo?

  Same.

• 1:48:40Speaker 00

  Working with me. Yeah, and I know it's similar for you as well, and I think a lot of our friends are like that, too.

• 1:48:44Drew Afualo?

  It's true.

• 1:48:45Speaker 00

  And it makes such a big impact if you're not coming from this background of already being connected in the industry.

• 1:48:50Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, totally.

• 1:48:51Speaker 00

  Don't be fake, you know, but go like be nice, be respectful. Introduce yourself to your P A, like, you know, introduce yourself to the people doing the sound, like, just be nice and normal and show up on time and do your job.

• 1:49:02Drew Afualo?

  Hell, yeah.

• 1:49:02Speaker 00

  And be prepared when you get there, you know, know your lines, do a good job, and, um, also, like, do what you wanna be doing. Don't feel like you have to replicate what other comedians or artists are doing, and your manager might be trying to tell you to do that.

• 1:49:14Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:15Speaker 00

  But sometimes you gotta do your own thing.

• 1:49:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:18Speaker 01

  A hundred percent.

• 1:49:18Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 1:49:19Speaker 01

  I think maybe a little more vague, those were such good tips, but I guess generally, I'm like, I think don't be precious with anything you do.

• 1:49:27Speaker 00

  No, that's not vague, that's so good.

• 1:49:29Drew Afualo?

  That's a really good point, yeah.

• 1:49:30Speaker 01

  I think that people can get very, uh, picky about what they wanna put out, and it can feel really intimidating when you haven't put anything out, and you're like, okay, I wanna, this is my big reveal of my art. And I think just realizing that it's really not so complicated, and it's more about, the only way that you're gonna grow is if you put out that art that isn't that good. You're never gonna release your first thing and be like, this is the best I'll ever do.

• 1:49:54Drew Afualo?

  We need bad art, too. On a separate note.

• 1:49:57Speaker 01

  People love bad art.

• 1:49:58Drew Afualo?

  I'm telling you.

• 1:49:59Speaker 01

  Some of the, my favorite movies are horrible. I think my, the movie that inspires me the most is Mike and Dave Need Wedding Day. If you've ever seen it.

• 1:50:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:07Speaker 01

  I might've told you about it in the past. I love that movie. It's my favorite movie to this day.

• 1:50:11Drew Afualo?

  It's Zac Efron, right?

• 1:50:12Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, who I think.

• 1:50:13Drew Afualo?

  Adam Devine?

• 1:50:13Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:50:13Drew Afualo?

  Is that who it is?

• 1:50:14Speaker 01

  Yes. Who Zac Efron, I think, I'm sorry, I think he's one of the greatest comedic actors of our time.

• 1:50:19Drew Afualo?

  He's funny. He's funny as fuck. It's kinda like The Rock, like, The Rock is so funny, like, naturally.

• 1:50:24Speaker 00

  John Cena, too.

• 1:50:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, John Cena, great one.

• 1:50:25Speaker 00

  You hit a certain level of being in shape that you become funny. I don't know what the math of that is.

• 1:50:30Drew Afualo?

  You know what's funny is like, on that same note of Mike and Dave Need Wedding Day, it's like, my sister and I love the movie Ricky Stanicki.

• 1:50:36Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:50:36Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:50:37Drew Afualo?

  Which like, it's, it literally, I've told so many people, watch it, it's fucking hilarious. And then like, someone I know watched it, and they go, I think I need to watch it with you, like, I think I need, I'm like, you don't get it.

• 1:50:47Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:50:47Drew Afualo?

  You don't get, you don't get John Cena like I get John Cena.

• 1:50:50Speaker 01

  I know. I saw it four times in theaters because I kept bringing my friends. I kept going, yo, yo, go, I'll rent it. No, no, no. It's a movie you need to see in the theater.

• 1:50:58Speaker 00

  On the big screen.

• 1:50:59Drew Afualo?

  You need to experience. And I need to watch you watch it. And then it's just like, the dumbest fucking movie.

• 1:51:05Speaker 01

  And I'm like, that movie inspires me so much because I'm like, that is my favorite movie.

• 1:51:10Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:51:10Speaker 01

  It's not because it's good, it's not because it's perfectly written by any means, it's not because the acting is great, it's just, I like it, and I think there's.

• 1:51:18Speaker 00

  It's so funny.

• 1:51:19Speaker 01

  It's so fun, and that is like, what we're doing here with art is like, it's supposed to make, bring people joy.

• 1:51:24Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:51:24Speaker 01

  Or make people really sad, I guess, but what we're doing is to make people laugh. So I think for a comedian, just don't take something so seriously that is not supposed to be serious.

• 1:51:33Drew Afualo?

  I agree. That's, that's great advice, and I honestly think the note, too, about putting it out, like, just getting started.

• 1:51:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:51:39Drew Afualo?

  Is also a huge thing I tell people, too, because I'm like, you, you'll talk your way out of anything, like, you, you can delay anything as many times as you want. And I always, like, when people ask me, like, how do I get started on a podcast? I always tell them, before you buy anything, mics, cameras, lights, any of that shit, set up your phone and see if you can talk for forty minutes by yourself. Just see. See where it goes, see how it sounds, like, watch it back, like, because that will tell you whether or not you should be doing a podcast, first of all. But second of all, I think it will inform you of what you want, like, how you present on camera, like, that kinda thing. And I think the same thing with bad art, like, we need it. Put it out there.

• 1:52:16Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:52:16Drew Afualo?

  I thought the same thing when I watched End of Oak Street. Have you guys watched that?

• 1:52:19Speaker 00

  No, not yet. We wanted to.

• 1:52:21Drew Afualo?

  Please watch it. I would love to know your thoughts.

• 1:52:23Speaker 00

  We got, that's the dinosaur one.

• 1:52:24Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:52:25Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 1:52:25Drew Afualo?

  With Anne Hathaway.

• 1:52:26Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:52:26Drew Afualo?

  Because it's fucking insane. Like, I, I remember being, and not in a fun way, I was literally like, this is one of the worst movies ever, but also, three and a half stars on Letterboxd.

• 1:52:36Speaker 01

  Come on.

• 1:52:36Drew Afualo?

  I had a ball. I had a ball watching that show, and it, the movie, I like, I talk about it being like, I watch or listen to enjoy, not to critique.

• 1:52:45Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:52:46Drew Afualo?

  Sometimes I'm watching to enjoy. I was like, that being said, I had a blast. It was terrible. That being said, I had a blast.

• 1:52:52Speaker 01

  Some of the, one of the maddest moments of my life have, I was excited to see the movie Anaconda, you know, the new movie.

• 1:52:59Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yes, of course I do.

• 1:53:00Speaker 01

  I'm hearing all these little whispers, oh, it's, it's fucking trash, oh, it's bad, it's not even worth going to see, I said, I don't believe it. The trailer was hilarious. I gotta go see this. I had to be, shush, I was laughing so hard. It was the funniest.

• 1:53:14Speaker 00

  I thought I was gonna have to sit on her. She's thrashing in the trailer, she's laughing so hard.

• 1:53:18Speaker 01

  My popcorn was flying.

• 1:53:21Speaker 00

  Hysterical, we love her.

• 1:53:22Speaker 01

  It was hysterical, and I left and I said, I would like to personally scream at every person who told me that was a bad movie. That's not what the movie was. This is a remake, this is a movie with Jack Black and Paul Rudd, where they're remaking Anaconda? It's not supposed to be some amazing movie.

• 1:53:41Drew Afualo?

  Nominated film.

• 1:53:42Speaker 01

  No, it was so funny when he is, when he, I could cry talking about, when he is the, when he's attached, I'm sorry.

• 1:53:51Drew Afualo?

  I haven't seen it, no.

• 1:53:52Speaker 01

  You haven't seen it?

• 1:53:53Drew Afualo?

  No, I haven't.

• 1:53:54Speaker 00

  Oh, you're gonna love it.

• 1:53:55Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I love it. I love Jack Black, like, Jack Black is one of my favorite comedic actors.

• 1:53:59Speaker 00

  Oh, my god.

• 1:54:00Drew Afualo?

  I think he's one of the funniest people.

• 1:54:02Speaker 01

  St. John is so funny.

• 1:54:02Drew Afualo?

  And I love Paul Rudd, too. Paul Rudd is so funny.

• 1:54:05Speaker 00

  Oh, you're gonna love it.

• 1:54:05Speaker 01

  Well, this is a bit of a spoiler for Anaconda, but, no, no, I have to do this.

• 1:54:09Drew Afualo?

  You can tell me, you can tell me. I don't care about spoilers.

• 1:54:11Speaker 01

  It's like Jack Black, they think he's dead, like, they think he's dead, and then so they attach, I'm sorry, they attach because, wait, why, is there's like a big snake or something?

• 1:54:20Speaker 00

  They have to try to like, get the snake distracted so they can like, go over here.

• 1:54:24Speaker 01

  So Jack Black said, so they're like, well, let's attach this dead pig to his head, and then have him, use him as bait. And they put the, uh, is it his penis?

• 1:54:33Speaker 00

  His tail.

• 1:54:35Drew Afualo?

  Oh, the, the pig's tail.

• 1:54:36Speaker 01

  The pig's tail.

• 1:54:36Drew Afualo?

  Got you.

• 1:54:37Speaker 01

  Are you sure?

• 1:54:37Speaker 00

  I think so.

• 1:54:38Speaker 01

  Anyways, they put the tail in his mouth, and then they're running, and he's gonna chase by a snake, and the Jack Black wakes up, he's not dead, and he starts running, and then the pig wakes up, and the pig's screaming, and they're both screaming and running. I, oh, I couldn't even.

• 1:54:52Drew Afualo?

  That's literally how I felt when we watched Ricky Stanicki, bro. I'm not kidding, the part in Ricky Stanicki, this is a spoiler, but I don't give a fuck, because nobody watched that movie, nobody cared. But like, there's a part where there's like a woman, they're like, you know when her hair is just like a little too long? Like, where it's, it's like creepy, which I think is a funny joke just by itself. Like, her hair goes this way, like, you're creepy?

• 1:55:12Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:55:13Drew Afualo?

  That's funny, but he literally, they all talk about how this girl's hair is too long, and it's, it makes her creepy, and then John Cena's character is the only one who like, tells her to her face, and he's like, yeah, you know, maybe you should get a haircut, like a bob or something. And she's like, oh, like, do you think I'd look good with a bob? He goes, I don't really know, I just know that, uh, your hair, I mean, the hair, the way it looks now, he's like, you look like a friggin' loon. I laugh, when I tell you, bitch, I laughed so hard, I had to pause the movie because I couldn't hear anything. I literally was like, wait, pause it, pause it, pause it. And I was like, holy fuck, because he's literally like, being so serious and genuine, and he goes, you look like a friggin' loon.

• 1:55:51Drew Afualo?

  Holy fuck, it's not even that funny. I literally was crying, laughing. I called my sister, I go, this movie is so funny. She's like, I told you.

• 1:55:59Speaker 01

  That's like me, if I'm at any Minions movie.

• 1:56:03Speaker 00

  Oh, we love.

• 1:56:03Drew Afualo?

  Jordan is like. Girl, don't even, look at my sister's phone case, my sister has a Minions phone case, like.

• 1:56:08Speaker 01

  She has the Sora, Minion collab. And you have good taste, because I'm telling you, and I really believe this, as an artiste, the Minions are the Mr. Beans of our time.

• 1:56:17Drew Afualo?

  That's such a good point, yeah.

• 1:56:19Speaker 01

  Literally.

• 1:56:20Drew Afualo?

  It's not funny. He is so underrated.

• 1:56:23Speaker 00

  Mr. Bean is still alive. Kettle says this all the time.

• 1:56:26Speaker 01

  Isn't he like, um?

• 1:56:27Speaker 00

  He's an alt-right freak.

• 1:56:28Speaker 01

  Okay, so now we have the Minions.

• 1:56:29Drew Afualo?

  And also, and also, I get what you mean, because at the time, everyone was like, fucking stupid about Mr. Bean.

• 1:56:34Speaker 01

  Uh-huh.

• 1:56:35Drew Afualo?

  And then afterward, they're like, low-key comedic genius, kinda like Peaky Herman, where like, after the fact, it was like, well, low-key, he's hilarious.

• 1:56:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:56:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so the Minions, my sister does not fucking play about the Minions.

• 1:56:45Speaker 01

  No, because they're fun.

• 1:56:46Drew Afualo?

  She's only given two movies this year, four stars on Letterboxd, and one of them was The Minions and Monsters. What was the other one? Cami Aslan.

• 1:56:55Speaker 01

  Oh, okay, okay, okay.

• 1:56:56Drew Afualo?

  Lesbian, of course, so there you go.

• 1:56:58Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 1:56:58Drew Afualo?

  That's why she literally was like, "The Minions movies, dude." Like, she's even told me, like, she loves the trolls ones.

• 1:57:04Speaker 00

  Oh, I love the trolls.

• 1:57:05Drew Afualo?

  The Puss in Boots franchise.

• 1:57:07Speaker 01

  Who you say I look like? I've never seen trolls.

• 1:57:09Speaker 00

  I, you remind me of Princess Poppy sometimes.

• 1:57:11Drew Afualo?

  Poppy, yeah, Poppy and Branch.

• 1:57:14Speaker 01

  I assume she's a gorgeous troll. I don't know.

• 1:57:17Speaker 00

  We have, we have Poppy and Branch energy a little bit sometimes.

• 1:57:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, don't, don't look, don't look her up, but yes, she's gorgeous.

• 1:57:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:57:21Drew Afualo?

  Uh, but I love, I love that y'all love bad art, good art, everything in between.

• 1:57:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, 'cause why isn't it art?

• 1:57:28Drew Afualo?

  That's what I'm saying, all of it is.

• 1:57:29Speaker 00

  Why isn't it really just the art? I'm like, I'm being 100% serious, it's true. What about it? Like, why do I have to watch a British actor pretend to be American? And do this, like, really, like, serious movie where, like, he's a straight actor, but he's doing a movie about the AIDS crisis? Like, you know, I'm not saying that shouldn't be made, but I'm just like, why is that art?

• 1:57:46Speaker 01

  Because who decided? Because I'm never watching that again. I can tell you, that was a made-up movie. I would watch that one time, and I would say, "Thank God, that's over."

• 1:57:54Drew Afualo?

  It's like what I told you about Hobbs and Shaw, where I'm like, they're like, "Have you seen, like, the artist?" I'm like, "No, but have you seen Hobbs and Shaw?"

• 1:58:00Speaker 01

  Have you seen this artist?

• 1:58:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah, listen, I'll show you what fucking artist, bitch.

• 1:58:03Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 1:58:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think it's good. I think art should, people should be more comfortable with allowing art to bring them joy. And I think we've moved away from that.

• 1:58:12Speaker 01

  Because it's also, even in books, that's why I love the books I read so much.

• 1:58:14Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 1:58:15Speaker 01

  Because I'm like, I used to be like, "I hate reading, I hate reading." Because people were always like, "Well, have you read, like, Moby Dick or something?" And I'm like...

• 1:58:21Drew Afualo?

  Or self-help books. They're like, "That's all you're allowed to read." This nonfiction after a certain point.

• 1:58:25Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:58:26Drew Afualo?

  Why?

• 1:58:26Speaker 01

  No, as if, every time I go down to sit and watch TV, I want to watch an Oscar-nominated film. Most of the time, I'm watching garbage.

• 1:58:32Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:58:33Speaker 01

  And it's like, that's what I want to be reading.

• 1:58:34Drew Afualo?

  And I've talked about how I like things like Family Guy. Like, I think Family Guy is so funny. Like, there are some jokes that crack me the fuck up, and I think to myself, "You know what? That's just a well-rounded artist, when you like it all."

• 1:58:46Speaker 01

  But it's such, and I'll tell you, when I sometimes will, like, go, this is pretty, like, comedy nerd, but I'll, like, look up, uh, one-liners from TV shows that I love. And just, like, kind of study the format of them, and like, how, what, or whatever. And Family Guy, I would know, I was not allowed to watch Family Guy growing up, but I will study their scripts, and I have to insert different, like, I'm like, okay, I would never say that. But I'll, like, study the Family Guy scripts to be like, there, there is such an art. It's so, it is so technical, the scripts of those shows.

• 1:59:18Drew Afualo?

  I agree. I fucking love y'all. Y'all are, like, the funniest and the sweetest. I am wishing nothing but the world for y'all. But we're all gonna grow old together, so I'll see it.

• 1:59:26Speaker 00

  I can't wait.

• 1:59:27Drew Afualo?

  And when we're on Broadway, I'll be laughing then.

• 1:59:30Speaker 00

  Oh, I'll be laughing all day.

• 1:59:31Speaker 01

  Jordan's taking out her ponytail.

• 1:59:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:32Speaker 01

  She's gonna take out your ponytail at the curtain call.

• 1:59:34Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 1:59:35Speaker 00

  Take it out, say, "You tell me what my gender is."

• 1:59:39Drew Afualo?

  Well, thank y'all so much for coming on the show. Again, I fucking love y'all.

• 1:59:42Speaker 00

  Anytime, we love you. Thank you so much for having us.

• 1:59:44Drew Afualo?

  Oh my gosh, anytime. Uh, for maybe the two straight people that have never heard of you, where can they find you?

• 1:59:50Speaker 00

  We're on every social media platform. You can listen to our podcast, Happy Wife, Happy Life, on Patreon, on YouTube.

• 1:59:55Drew Afualo?

  That I've been on.

• 1:59:56Speaker 00

  Yes. One of our fan favorite episodes.

• 1:59:58Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:59:58Speaker 00

  Um, and you, honestly, that's such a fan favorite episode, we made the, like, ad-free extended version available on Patreon for free.

• 2:00:04Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, no way.

• 2:00:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, you can go check out our Patreon and listen to it, because it's one of our most popular episodes. We want everyone to be able to get access to it.

• 2:00:10Speaker 01

  And then on socials, we're HWHL Podcast.

• 2:00:13Drew Afualo?

  Yes, and your personal socials.

• 2:00:15Speaker 01

  And then, yeah, which is our name. This is Jordan Myrick. J O R D A N M Y R one C K, period.

• 2:00:20Speaker 00

  My full name was taken.

• 2:00:22Speaker 01

  And then my name, Kendall Andress.

• 2:00:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:00:24Drew Afualo?

  Period. Well, thank y'all so much for coming on again. I lo, I love and adore y'all. And thank you all so much for tuning into this episode of the comment section. Don't forget, new episodes drop every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms, but the video list are free and exclusively on our favorite platform, YouTube. Thank you so much to Kendall and Jordan for being amazing. Thank you so much for tuning in, and I'll see you next week. Bye.

• 2:00:42Speaker 00

  Bye.