What Nuking Iran Would Actually Be Like | Eyes On Geopolitics

We break down Tucker Carlson’s claim that the U. S. could use a nuclear weapon against Iran’s deeply buried Pickaxe Mountain facility, what tactical nukes can actually do, and why the idea is far less straightforward than it sounds. We also discuss the risks of radioactive fallout, whether the leak itself could be strategic signaling, the limits of another air campaign, and whether diplomacy with Iran is starting to become the only realistic path forward. VAER Watches ⬇️ https://www.vaerwatches.com/theteamhouse get a free watch roll with your purchase. 20% for active duty, veteran, leo, & first responders Support the show on Patreon:⬇️ https://www.patreon.com/TheTeamHouse Jack's news outlet:⬇️ https://thehighside.substack.com/ Find Jon Hackett here:⬇️ Jon's Twitter: https://x.com/jonathanhackett Jon's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thejonathanhackett Jon's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0C5L659N5?ccs_id=e11a2062-f8d3-498e-bfd7-7d2f3869caf6 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thejonathanhackett Twitter: https://x.com/jonathanhackett Find Marc P here: https://x.com/Mpolymer Find Andy Milburn here: Twitter ⬇️ https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Fandymilburn8 LinkedIn ⬇️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewmilburn2023 Substack ⬇️ https://amilburn.substack.com/ Andy’s book ⬇️ https://www.amazon.com/When-Tempest-Gathers-Mogadishu-Operations 00:00 – Start 00:01 – Tucker Carlson Claims the U. S. Could Nuke Iran 00:58 – Why Pickaxe Mountain Is at the Center of the Story 02:32 – How Plausible Is a Nuclear Strike? 04:13 – Can Any Weapon Actually Reach the Tunnels? 04:43 – Why a Tactical Nuke Wouldn’t Solve the Problem 06:44 – Netanyahu, Hegseth & Pressure for Another Strike 08:18 – Has U. S. Nuclear Doctrine Changed? 09:16 – There Is No Such Thing as a “Small” Nuclear War 10:00 – What Happens to Enriched Uranium If the Site Is Hit? 11:11 – How Presidents Are Briefed on Extreme Military Options 12:58 – What Tactical Nuclear Weapons Does the U. S. Actually Have? 14:39 – B-2s, Diego Garcia & Delivery Options 16:04 – Hiroshima vs. Modern Tactical Nuclear Yields 17:07 – How Much Force Would It Take to Penetrate Pickaxe Mountain? 18:56 – Was Iran’s Nuclear Program Ever Really “Obliterated”? 19:02 – The Risk of Radioactive Material Going Airborne 20:22 – What Aerosolized Nuclear Material Could Do to Civilians 21:08 – Considering the Source: Tucker Carlson 22:20 – Could the Leak Be Deliberate Signaling to Iran? 24:06 – Why Tucker Could Be the Perfect Conduit for a Leak 25:51 – Why Another Short Air Campaign Probably Won’t Work 27:53 – Pickaxe Mountain, Fordow & Natanz 29:45 – Iran Has Far More Nuclear Sites Than Just One Mountain 31:30 – Why Pickaxe Mountain Was Chosen in the First Place 33:27 – Would Even a Nuclear Weapon Be Enough? 33:47 – Why Repeated Penetrator Strikes Have Limits 35:01 – How Blast Energy Actually Moves Through Rock 36:03 – The Limits of Nuclear Penetrators 36:40 – Tucker Carlson’s Recent Track Record 38:31 – Netanyahu’s Long History of Nuclear Warnings 39:35 – Why Nuclear Weapons Haven’t Been Used in 80 Years 41:16 – Could a New Iran Deal Be Taking Shape? 43:18 – Netanyahu’s Political Clock Is Running 45:10 – Eight Months of War & the Same Unanswered Questions 47:09 – When Would the U. S. Actually Resume Strikes? 47:54 – Elections, Timing & What Happens Next 48:49 – Is Tucker Being Used as a “Useful Idiot”? 49:16 – MAGA, Anti-Israel Influencers & the Strange Coalition 50:11 – The Left-Right Convergence on Israel & Ukraine 51:16 – Russian & Iranian Influence in Alternative Media 51:56 – Closing Thoughts Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss.

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  This episode is presented by Ver watches. Go to vaerwatches.com/the team house. Hey everybody, welcome back to another Eyes on Geopolitics. We have breaking news with just nuclear, we've just attacked Iran with a nuclear weapon, or that's what's in the news. I'm here with Jonathan Hacken and Andy Milburn, try and make sense of it. We have not attacked Iran with a nuclear weapon. It's gonna happen Wednesday morning, 12:01 a.m. after the polls are closed completely everywhere. That's when we'll start dropping nukes. As I'm assuming most folks have seen this tweet by, I don't even know how to describe this guy, but Tucker Carlson himself. The esteemed journalist.

• 1:40Speaker 03

  There you go. That's a great way to put it for some people. Tucker Carlson, I'm gonna read some of it, just the top bill. "Under pressure from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the Trump administration may be within days of launching a nuclear strike on Iran. The target would be Pickaxe Mountain in central Iran, where Israeli intelligence claims the Iranian government has restarted its nuclear enrichment program. No conventional weapon in the American arsenal can penetrate 300 feet of solid granite to the shore of the tunnels where enrichment is supposedly taking place. The only military option is a nuclear strike. Netanyahu has been pushing hard for this one. Bibi calls Trump about it every day, says an informed observer." It goes on, I'm sure most of people have

• 2:24Speaker 03

  read this tweet, it's gone super viral. I will, I'm not a Tucker Carlson fan, clearly. Obviously, if you have, if you've listened to even like five minutes of this show, you know that. I will say this, the guy has sources inside this, this White House for sure. I would not put it, I put it, like, I would not bet against the fact that President Trump has been briefed about this. I'm sure there was, you know, people there briefing on what it would take and what would, nuking or tactically nuking Pickaxe Mountain. It's insane. Couple this with like, all like the doom state, doomsday stuff that's been going on for like the last

• 3:04Speaker 03

  week. I could see why this is picking up steam for everybody. So, I wanna talk about with you guys, how, what the reality is, basically, of this. And how is this even plausible? Would we ever do this? Obviously, there's a plan in place, like a briefing, they brief, they, they plan to do almost anything, right? The American military, that's their job. You guys have been in the American military, special operations, any conventional, what are your thoughts? Why are you laughing?

• 3:36Speaker 04

  Oh, no, I mean, it's just such a, it's a great topic, right? On top of everything else. So, okay, I'll, I'll launch into this. So, you know, I, I say, let's do this, okay? We'll go through some of Tucker's, Tucker Carlson's claims, and then take a step back and talk about Pickaxe Mountain and what has happened so far, right? Why, why this is still an issue? Okay, so, you know, I, I think, I mean, my, my personal opinion, very unlikely that this is being presented by anyone in the military as a plausible

• 4:20Speaker 04

  course of action. Very unlikely. And then we can talk about that. I know, you know, John's got some good facts and data. John, how about putting you on the X that way? That shows there's no such thing as a tactical nuke, right? I mean, the downside is, it's a huge downside. You know, the central claim, as you pointed out, is Trump may be days from a nuclear strike on Pickaxe Mountain. There's all this anecdotal stuff, right? To kind of back it up, that Trump constantly talking about Pickaxe Mountain, saying we've got, you know, we've got a, we have that plan, it'll take a few minutes. And then, you know,

• 5:05Speaker 04

  who was it who was briefed on, who just had a stroke?

• 5:09Speaker 03

  Chris Murphy, Senator from Connecticut.

• 5:13Speaker 04

  Who, who appeared blanched, you know, wiper face after being briefed of this, of a plan that he said was, I forget the term he used, but basically crazy. So-

• 5:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, he said like it was insane.

• 5:26Speaker 04

  Right. Anecdotally, all seems to be coming together. But, you know, let's just go through very quickly, you know, what, what Carlson's saying, right? So, I mean, Carlson's right that no conventional bomb can be sure, sure of reaching tunnels that are 80 to 100 meters down in, in granite. Ironically, neither is a tactical nuke. And we'll talk about that a little bit later, right? So, tactical nuke causes massive disruption. And as I've said, there's no such thing really as a tactical nuke. And when you look at the killatons involved in tactical nukes, you understand why. So, there's a massive downside. But ironically, nukes aren't great at penetrating deep granite, which is the one reason why you would use

• 6:11Speaker 04

  it here, right? He's wrong about, hey, this is the only military option. Okay, he may just be quoting Netanyahu, but, but the point is, it's not. You know, there are conventional answers. I mean, even if the GBU-57, even if two of them dropped one after the other, can't reach the centrifuges, which reportedly, as I said, 80 to 100 meters down in granite. And that's entirely likely that they can't, right? Because we haven't, we've already, we've already tried this. And again, we'll talk about this a little bit later. But, but even, even so, I mean, there are things you can do to halt production. You can close that site down. You can seal it, you can collapse the entrances, you can destroy the

• 6:54Speaker 04

  ventilation, you can cut off power. You don't actually have to reach the centrifuges to, to, to neutralize that site. And, you know, I mean, look, Netanyahu, there's, here's some points, and I'll turn over to John in a moment, but here's some points from, I mean, Carlson's got tens of millions of followers, right? He doesn't, he doesn't, you know, he's a bright guy. He doesn't get that number of followers by just spouting constant bullshit. But what I'm saying is, he's mixed in some nuggets of truth here with stuff that just sounds nebulous. I'm not saying he's lying, I'm just saying that, that the stuff here just doesn't ring true, okay? It is true, Netanyahu is pressing Trump to strike Iran.

• 7:39Speaker 04

  He says Bibi calls Trump almost every day. Who knows? I mean, it appears it could be likely Pickaxe Mountain, the target.

• 7:46Speaker 03

  He also said that Netanyahu put the screws on Hagseth and SecCom Commander Brad Cooper. My guess is because they visited Israel recently, right?

• 7:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's right. And, and, you know, potentially, there appears to be not first time, kind of a split in the, it's certainly as far as the rhetoric's concerned, Rubio's talking about negotiations, there's discussion of, for the first time, both from Trump and Rubio about, hey, maybe, you know, maybe we just need a guarantee that they don't make weapons, you know? They, it's no longer, hey, we're gonna put a stop to their nuclear program altogether, right? So, yeah, I mean, there's undoubtedly Netanyahu's pushing for a strike. Maybe Netanyahu did say, hey, we need to nuke it. Who knows? I mean, it's,

• 8:38Speaker 04

  that part is perhaps feasible. Whether it is actually a plan for us on the table, I very much doubt it. You know, there are, there are people who will have explained to Trump exactly what a tactical nuke does and doesn't do, right? And it, the ironic thing about this is, it's unlikely, it's, it's ill-suited for this particular task. But it's very well suited to cause massive widespread destruction. And we'll talk about killatons and everything in a moment. So, you know, I, I don't-

• 9:17Speaker 04

  Oh, one last piece, right? So Tucker said that the US has rewritten its nuclear doctrine to make battlefield nukes easier to use, right? Open source back in August. You know, DOD or DOW apparently is drafting a strategy that gives more weight to the use of tactical nuclear weapons in a conflict with Russia or China, right? But that's quite a different matter than using them against Iran, a target such as this. John, I'll turn over to you now. I know you've got a lot to add. And the last thing, you know, we talked about, before I turn over, we talked about the fact

• 9:59Speaker 04

  that tactical nukes are not tactical and that they all suited for this job. But you've also got to think about the ramifications of what about our peer competitors, Russia and China, right? We use a tactical nuke here. Table's open. John, over to you.

• 10:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, so there's a lot to talk about on this because, as you mentioned, the name is tactical nuclear weapon, but the tactical is almost irrelevant because the word nuclear is in it. And any use of a nuclear weapon of any scale, even a tiny, like, let's say, kilotons rather than megatons, something just destroying a desert environment is enough to make the entire world react to that in various ways. And we can talk about kind of the political philosophy of nuclear weapons, if you like. We also need to talk about what weapons does the US actually have? And what would those weapons do in various scenarios? Because you don't just drop a bomb. There are different ways to deploy a nuclear weapon, whether it's tactical or otherwise.

• 11:00Speaker 05

  And there are some weapons that we've been doing research and development on that we haven't actually used in the real world yet that could also be in this optionality. And the other question is, what happens to the material inside of a deeply buried facility like Pickaxe Mountain or Natanz if it's destroyed? Because the whole point of hitting Pickaxe Mountain is that there's uranium hexafluoride there that's already been enriched. So you've got near weapons-grade enriched uranium buried there. What happens if you blow it up? Even with a conventional weapon like a MOP or, you know, a daisy cutter, GPU, whatever, and you blow it up and it becomes aerosol? What happens then? You know, so there's a lot of like different questions here. And I think another important point is that even if Trump was briefed on this, I think

• 11:45Speaker 05

  it's important for people to understand that, like, as you said, the president is given options. So there, he's going to ask a question like, I want to see every option I have to do something to Iran, give them to me. I don't care how extreme it is. And sometimes in the intelligence community, they'll actually purposely do this where they have the analysis of competing hypotheses, which is a technique to actually bring in some like really different ways to solve a problem. And then let those different ways to solve the problem actually cancel each other out or create a synthesis of a new idea because they're so extremely different. So there may be like, let's say, ground forces, limited ground forces, maximum ground forces. You're going to have nuclear option, you're going to have a tactical nuclear option, you're going to have a sea-based option, you have an air option, a combination of those, like all these different courses of action. And there's going to be an actual planning process that comes toward it and say, okay,

• 12:28Speaker 05

  the amount of resources and risk involved here are X and Y, and these numbers are all in here with these systems. And the military planners are going to actually present that input in addition to the option itself. They're going to say, you know, if you choose option A, B, or C, here are the possible outcomes, here's the likelihood of those outcomes, here's what we think Iran will do, what Russia will do, what China will do, here's what we think the effect on the economic situation will be, the oil markets, like, all these things will be presented as a set. It won't just be nuclear attack, right? Same thing happened back in 2020, after we assassinated Qassem Soleimani. There were a lot of these wide range of options, like a menu of options presented to the president because there was reaction from Iran and we weren't sure exactly how they would react.

• 13:11Speaker 05

  So the president had this wide range of very extreme options, some of those including destroying Persepolis, which is a cultural site that predates Islam and is very important to Iranian culture and Persian culture. This was on their list of options to do. We didn't do it, but this was something presented because the president asked for like the most wide range of options to use in a variety of scenarios. So I think that's important to put there is that even if Tucker is correct and actually heard this from someone that actually said this, it doesn't necessarily mean like this is the next operation that's going to happen. Instead, it's, this is one of the options the president requested, and it could be that it's like not even likely. It's just something that was put on the table and he can look at that. But with that said, let's just make the assumption that this was chosen. Okay, what would happen next? What weapons would be used? What would the effects be?

• 13:55Speaker 05

  I think that's a good way to have the conversation. Because if you think about what weapons does the US have? If we take the tactical nuclear weapon title literally and use the doctrine of what that is, we actually only have four of these weapons and three of them are only operational. The other, the fourth one is not operational. So we've got the B-61 and a lot of variants of the B-61, depending on what it's supposed to be used for. And the whole point of the B-61 is that it's this really variable, adaptable system, a weapon system. So it's a dumb bomb that can have guidance if it needs to. But it's old. We've not used it, obviously, ever in combat. We've only used it in testing. The key here is that we have about 200 of them roughly, but 100 of them, so about half

• 14:36Speaker 05

  of them are in Europe, in NATO countries, defending NATO or for the nuclear umbrella in NATO. The other half are in our arsenal. They're old, they're aged, they have very different efficacy. So for example, the, like, the B-6112 is deliverable by aircraft. It has a very specific kiloton yield, like 0.3 to 50 kilotons. That's called a dial, a diala yield. So you can actually change the yield on it on each individual bomb dropped. Then you've got the B-6111, which is a penetrator that can only be delivered by a B2. So that the first one I mentioned, the 12 variant, can be delivered by like five different types of aircraft, whereas the 11 can only be delivered by a B2.

• 15:18Speaker 05

  So like, this is important now, we're all already seeing constraints on how this would happen, because now you're thinking about which airframes can we use? If you remember, we just removed all of our B2s from RAF Fairford because of the attack that might have happened, that we, you know, was disrupted with the British MI5 and the counterterrorism police against Iran outside of there. So now we can only launch those from either Diego Garcia or from US bases.

• 15:41Speaker 04

  But John, we had B2s or B1Bs at RAF Fairford.

• 15:46Speaker 05

  You could put B2s at Fairford. You could, but now we can't. So we've lost that basing access and overflight that was important to get closer to the target site. So now we'd have to go down to Diego Garcia or launch from US facilities. Now that, that's important because now those constraints are there, but we have sea-launched capabilities, cruise missiles, like the SLCM, which is the W-80, the Whiskey 80. This has never been used, that we know of, or even tested, but it exists. We don't know what the kiloton yield is. It's a very new, it's the newest of these tactical nukes. So it's possible, just like in World War II, when we used the two bombs in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the weapons test was the attack, right? Like the plutonium and the uranium bombs we used then, that was the first time they'd ever been used.

• 16:30Speaker 05

  And we actually, the test was the drop of the bomb. And it's possible we could do that here with the SLCM, the Whiskey 84 variant, where we could drop it on Natanz or on Pickaxe Mountain. And that's, that's the test to see like, did it actually do what we thought it would do? And we don't know because we are part of the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, which we now are removing ourselves from because of current political things. So we haven't been able to actually test that. So all that said, these are all small weapons that have a relatively small yield in the kilotons. The highest yield is a 400 kiloton, which is kind of small relative to the giant weapons that we have in our, like, strategic nuclear weapons arsenal.

• 17:09Speaker 04

  But John, it's like Hiroshima was what, 15 kilotons?

• 17:12Speaker 05

  Yeah. And then if you look at, that's a great point. So non-nuclear explosions, like in Beirut in 2020, in August 2020, that the ammonium nitrate that blew up in the port of Beirut, massive destruction, that was about two, roughly two kiloton yield of ammonium nitrate. Some of our B-61s have that same yield. That was an airburst or equivalent surface burst explosion, non-nuclear, obviously. But if we had something like that with this B-61, the damage it's doing is like minimal. And that's at the surface. You'd have to first penetrate to get down there. And I can talk about the mechanics of penetration and how that would work and what kind of weapon stack you would need for that. But that's important to point out because even a 400 kiloton explosion, which is at

• 17:54Speaker 05

  the higher end of our tactical nukes, would not be enough to actually destroy anything under the ground. I'll pause there because we can get into a lot of different tangents there, but that's kind of the framework on the kind of tactical problem of these weapons.

• 18:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, so and it was a study, right? I was reading the, I forget, it was in 2005, but it was a US study that you would need hundreds of kilotons to penetrate a target deep in hard rock and hundreds of kilotons could, would kill, I mean, tens of thousands to millions.

• 18:35Speaker 04

  I mean, obvious point, right? So the kiloton yield, the difference, of course, I mean, you can talk about the explosions in terms of kilotons, but the problem, of course, with using a nuclear weapon is it's, it's dependent, the, the death rate continues, right? And it's dependent on the weather and all kinds of things. You, you just really can't come up with, and that's why we're talking about these are not tactical weapons. I mean, Mattis said as much recently. So I know, I mean, I, my feeling is, I mean, I agree with you, John. I think, you know, maybe, maybe this was an option on the table. All right.

• 19:14Speaker 04

  So, all right, but what a, what a throwaway COA to, to put out there, a throwaway course of action. And, and I think that, I would like to think that among those in uniforms, they're in that uniform, there are enough checks and balances of people to say, no, I'm not doing that, before we came to this, because it would be disastrous, I think, for US policy. But it gets a lot of, it gets a lot of looks on tweet, on, on, on X, right, on, for a tweet. But I think, you know, let's go back, though, and I, I would say and look at, well, why? I thought we destroyed their nuclear program twice. You know, why we, why didn't we? We obliterated it.

• 19:59Speaker 04

  And, and what can we do now?

• 20:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, so, I mean, they, we saw satellite imagery, actually, after the opening strikes, where they were moving stuff in these large blue drums out of these facilities and most likely moving them to Pickaxe Mountain. So obviously not obliterated. You're talking about uranium hexafluoride, highly enriched uranium, other materials, other kind of analog materials that are produced along with this process. These are extremely hazardous, especially if they're made into an aerosol. And remember, this is near Natanz, which is a city. And if we airburst or surface penetrate and destroy the stuff and it blasts up into the atmosphere, you're talking about roughly 30 million people exposed immediately to this material. So you're, you're talking about millions of people injured, probably several thousand

• 20:44Speaker 05

  deaths right away, even though there aren't people right next to the mountain. It's the movement of the air and that the really important thing here is what direction is the wind moving on the specific moment that that thing explodes? And that's very hard to estimate, which means we probably wouldn't estimate it correctly. Especially if you think about, like I mentioned on their reading list the other day, chaos theory, you can't really predict weather patterns very well, and that's been a problem for our military planning for this kind of stuff. So you're going to have to accept the risk of harming thousands, tens of thousands of people that had nothing to do with this in the first place, and you can't control that. This was a problem we saw in Iraq.

• 21:20Speaker 04

  Even with conventional weapons.

• 21:21Speaker 05

  Correct. And that, yeah, in Iraq in early 2016, when we were striking Daesh positions in Mosul, they had a lot of chlorine gas that they were trying to weaponize, and they had some other things like sarin gas. We were striking buildings and that stuff would become aerosol and go and kill people in the town. And nothing you could do about that. I mean, that's, it's, it's the physics of it. Now, multiply that by a hundred times, a thousand times, which is what would happen here, you would be just putting thousands of innocent people, tens of thousands of innocent people in the harm of this hexafluoride that would cause skin damage, lung damage, cancer, all kinds of issues here. And that's just on the tactical level again. That's not the state level reaction to this. This is just people being harmed in the instant that it occurs.

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  And let's, let's, for a second, remember, just for a second, remember who the messenger is. It's Tucker Carlson. And the one thing I will disagree with Andy about is he is full of shit almost 100% of the time. Granted, he has connections inside the Trump administration, I have no doubt. And his arc over the last, like, probably year, year and a half, has been extremely anti-Israel and extremely borderline anti-Semitic. And even though I am pretty fervently anti-Israel in what they're doing right now, I can still make the distinction between Zionism and Judaism, right? I'm not a total fucking idiot. So let's just take that into account. I mean, this is a interesting and serious thought exercise, for sure.

• 26:49Speaker 03

  And like, you know, you guys are as close to experts as they get. Obviously, you're not nuclear experts, but you guys are military strategic experts in this stuff. So let's just keep that in mind. It's Tucker Carl, it's coming from Tucker Carlson. And he's, you know, it's, his shots are very much aimed at Netanyahu, for sure. So, yeah, let's, the context and everything, let's just all put that into this. Just FYI, I don't want people in the comments freaking out. Go ahead, I'm sorry.

• 27:16Speaker 05

  I would also zoom out and think about, like, what's happening right now? So right now, you've got negotiations that are facilitated by Doha, by Qatar, between the US and Iran, right? That's going on. You've got this stuff coming out, kind of like into the media about potentially some nuclear activity. You've got US forces in the region, we've got the midterms. There's a lot of things happening right now that could be used as signals to the regime, and the regime could be signaling to the United States. Saying things that they don't necessarily mean to do, but are signaling some sort of future resolve if something were to happen, right? And I think that it's possible that whoever told Tucker this intended to tell him this and wanted it to leak for the purpose of making a message to Iran, saying that the

• 28:00Speaker 05

  US is potentially considering this, without us actually saying that we're considering it officially. Because it could have an effect on their behavior that may be advantageous to the US. Or if you couple it with the Doha negotiations, you remember the last time we attacked in June 2025 and February 28th this year, we were in negotiations with Iran. And we use the negotiations as a pretext to get them into a certain position to actually reduce their strength at the opening salvo of both of those attacks. So it's possible that we could be doing that now with the Doha talks, and the nuclear message may also be pushing them in a direction where they have to respond somehow inside their country to protect against an asset, even if they're not sure we will attack it, which then draws resources away from other things, which makes it easier for us to attack

• 28:44Speaker 05

  an alternative target that they may not have been able to put all their assets against, because now they have this nuclear question. So there may be something there going on, too, with the information environment that both sides have, that perhaps it's easy for us to be distracted by, but both governments are looking at it and reacting to each other.

• 29:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, I, I think that's a great point. And what better way, if you wanna, if you wanna leak a message to your enemy, what better way to do it than via Tucker Carlson, who has a gullible audience, as Dee would say, of tens of millions? And you've seen the way that, that tweet has traveled. But the, and, and the talks in, you know, undoubtedly, the

• 29:29Speaker 04

  I disagree on one point, though. I'm not sure Pickaxe Mountain is a decoy.

• 29:38Speaker 04

  And I've got no factual basis for saying this, other than, you know, open source reports that there are indeed, I think as AP Analysis said, you know, that they have been digging there. There are holes, definitely, where they think centrifuges are, down at eighty to a hundred meters. It's undoubtedly true that this is a real sticking point for Netanyahu, especially now as he's, you know, post-elections and he's in a little bit of a precarious position.

• 30:20Speaker 04

  So what, you know, if tracking everything that's going on in Doha, it does look as though a lot of this talk is just that, it's bellicose talk. Unfortunately, there's tens of thousands of military personnel who are kind of contributing, you know, having to sit around in the Middle East contributing to that messaging.

• 30:45Speaker 04

  And, you know, I think a key point here is, I'm sure that the president's advisers are explaining to him all the difficulties inherent in trying to go after now another military campaign trying to force Iran to the negotiating table or materially affect their nuclear program. And forcing Iran to the negotiating table hasn't worked so far. I think, and John, you've commented on this, economic pressure is certainly having an effect.

• 31:20Speaker 04

  Maybe economic pressures, we talked about yesterday, in conjunction with kind of mowing the grass, as the Israelis would say, continuous strikes focused on, but focused on specific targets around Straits of Hormuz is kind of continuous rolling pressure. But this concept of we're going to have a short, sharp campaign and it is going to force Iran to the negotiating table, I think is not a good read on our enemy. And just simply because Iran doesn't seem to respond that way. And also because the military targets, whether you're talking about destruction of missile launchers, or you're talking about the nuclear program, have proven to be elusive in the past.

• 32:04Speaker 04

  And Iran's had plenty of time to make them even more elusive. I mean, it's worth, just very quickly, so, you know, talking about this, what we've been talking about. So you've got this place, Pickaxe Mountain, it's not the only potential nuclear site, right? There's also Firdow, there's Natanz.

• 32:26Speaker 04

  But there seems to be, if open source intelligence is to be believed, belief that that is where the Iranians are keeping their enriched uranium and that's where, or that's where they have the ability or generating the ability to manufacture more, right? And the problem being that all this stuff is eighty to a hundred meters down and it's granite, right, which is harder to penetrate than concrete or most other things. And so, and the MOP, which is what we're talking about, the GBU-57, the Massive Ordnance Penetrator, which is a huge thirty thousand pound bomb, it can go through, it can go to sixty meters,

• 33:11Speaker 04

  but that's earth, right, moderately hard ground and about, I think it's like twenty meters of reinforced concrete, but less if you're talking about granite, all right? So even with two of them, as we used, I think it was in Firdow, did we drop like thirteen GBU-57? Yeah, it was over a dozen, yeah. It was a huge, yeah, it was a huge amount. Evidently weren't enough for the job, so clearly that's not something that we're going to be able to do. But as I commented earlier, there are other things, you know, you don't, as John said too, you probably don't want to blow that shit up, right? Because of all the collateral, all this stuff that could, but you can close that site down effectively and you can continue to isolate the site. That's probably the best that we can do.

• 33:57Speaker 04

  At the end of the day, though, you know, the nuclear, the nuclear issue and the Straits of Hormuz issue can only really be addressed and resolved at the negotiating table. And yes, that's a Marine saying that, but that's, to me, that's just clearly evident. We can't, you know, we talked about Hormuz, we can't, you can continuously force convoys through under the threat of force, but that doesn't affect insurance rates. It doesn't affect, you know, the willingness of commercial companies to be able to take that risk. And oil remained at a high price. So at the end of the day, Iran has to agree to negotiate.

• 34:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, and actually, so Andy, you mentioned Firdow and Pickaxe Mountain. There are actually twenty named sites across Iran, which is about the size of Texas, where there are, by the IAEA's estimation, significant amounts of enriched uranium that have been dispersed and that have centrifuge activity happening now. So that means that there's enrichment continuing now. And imagine, put yourself in Iran's shoes, they've been attacked by the US and Israel for the past eight months or so, they were attacked last year, the US is now saying there's some like rumblings about nuclear weapons. What better time than now to make a nuclear bomb? If you were Iran, right, like if you were looking at this, you're like, well, we have an existential problem here. Either we're going to get blasted off the face of the earth or we're going to be denuded of our nuclear weapon capability, which is the same thing.

• 35:27Speaker 05

  Or we develop a nuke, whether it's great or poorly designed, but we develop one and we use it, right? Because, I mean, what other options do they have on the table besides like abdicating, which they're not going to do, right? So that's just something to think about too, is like, how is the regime reacting to this? Are they turning the centrifuges down or turning them up, right? Or are they building more uranium or are they dispersing it? What are they doing? So that's one thing. The other thing is, they picked Pickaxe Mountain because it's impenetrable to US weapons. It wasn't that they randomly picked them out and they're like, let's put our stuff over there. Instead, they actually did geological studies, they have very brilliant physicists, they have brilliant geologists in Iran. Many of them were trained in the United States and Europe at our best universities.

• 36:11Speaker 05

  We have some of them here at Yale University and there's others around the United States that have gone back to Sharif University in Iran and helped to design this, like, very difficult to crack nut, which is burying uranium in a way that cannot be damaged by US materials, right? The place where Pickaxe Mountain is, this is actually in something called the Karakas Mountain Range, which means Vulture Mountain Range. It's not just granite, it's actually even more difficult stone, like special igneous rocks that was designed, that exploded during a very volcanic period of the Earth's, you know, existence, that actually disrupts explosions as they go down. So because there are different densities, this actually interferes with the way that our bombs work. So if the GBU goes down and hits a certain level, it'll actually spread horizontally

• 36:56Speaker 05

  rather than vertically as far as the blast is concerned. So there's something called a basement in the rock, which will actually stop some of that explosion from going further. So even if you use, let's say, a hundred of these GBU's, you'd be wasting them. Because the way that the explosion happens, it does not happen the way we conceptualize it, like, oh, it just penetrates down, like you've seen in the, I'm sure the videos or the GIFs of these explosions, like the bomb, like going down to the earth. That's not how it works. That's how it works maybe in sand, but not in this igneous volcanic rock that's been there for a hundred million years, right? Pyroclastic flows of crystalline materials that are just like negating our weapons, like they chose it on purpose, right? And the important thing is, to get through this stuff, and I actually have worked on

• 37:38Speaker 05

  this nuclear problem a long time ago with other countries, to actually get below this type of material, you have to cube the power of the kiloton yield every, every time you want to go down one further level. So for example, at one kiloton, to go two times more intense, you have to go to ten kilotons. And then to double that, you have to go to a hundred kilotons. And to double, and to double that again, you have to go to a thousand, so one megaton, to get into eight times the depth. So you're seeing this like cubed logarithmic graph essentially, where to actually touch where the uranium is right now, you cannot use a tactical nuclear weapon, even with the GBU prep work ahead of time.

• 38:22Speaker 05

  You'd have to drop a like city-sized megaton nuclear warhead on top of this material, which now we're talking about, obviously, bigger implications. So I just want to put that out there, that maybe some people are saying this in a positive way, like, oh, we could do it. Yes, it's possible, it's not likely to actually do anything that would be effective for us.

• 38:43Speaker 04

  And the, what you just talked about, the, I imagine too, it applies to conventional bombs. So in Firdow, right, the, as Dee said, they dropped, what, twelve GBU-57s? And there was a lot of talk, do you remember about, yeah, aiming for the ventilator shafts? And it sounded very conclusive. But the problem is if when you if you drop and and dropping one bomb after another, right? But if you drop one bomb and it, yes, it does, it it creates a crater, but also shattered rock. I mean, that rock doesn't just all fly out, right?

• 39:27Speaker 04

  So you've got shattered rock piled up and you've still got to blow through that. So it's not, you know, it's not as a, a, it, it sounds great in theory, but it's not as effective as it sounds. Same thing with ventilator shafts. The first bomb doesn't penetrate all the way down the ventilator shaft. It collapses the ventilator shaft would and and now you've got a ton of rubble that you have to penetrate.

• 39:49Speaker 03

  Yeah. So we just to clarify, we use 14 GPU 57s across four Darnatans in Isfahan.

• 39:56Speaker 05

  Yeah. And also just to kind of illustrate how this physics works. Think about like 60 million years ago, when an asteroid hit the earth and kill all the dinosaurs. Right. It hit the Chuxalup crater in the Gulf of Mexico, by the way, not America, and created that Gulf. It created it vertically. I'm sorry, horizontally, like it spread these waves across the surface of the earth. That's the same thing that will happen with these weapons is that they're not penetrating. The, the energy is not going down. It's going out. Some of it will go down, but that's a small percentage of it. Most of it will actually go outward and spread in these waves across. It will actually create waves in the, the hard surface material of the earth's crust. So you're wasting a ton of energy this way. That's why a lot of these nuclear weapons are only designed to go a couple of feet.

• 40:41Speaker 05

  They're not even designed to penetrate anything like they're not supposed to be penetrators. They're supposed to be either air burst or surface burst.

• 40:47Speaker 03

  Right. Isn't that like a better?

• 40:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's, that's the more efficient use of them.

• 40:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, there is one tactical nuke that it's called a penetrator, but apparently I was reading it, it only penetrates a few feet.

• 40:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, it goes eight meters. Yeah, maximum eight meters. That's in a perfect environment of like a desert.

• 41:04Speaker 04

  The, the effect is lateral.

• 41:06Speaker 05

  Yeah. So the penetrator would need another penetrator to actually deliver it to penetrate, which is crazy because it's, it's like it's in the name, but it doesn't do it. Right. And even like a 300 kiloton penetrator, the ground shock would distribute it so much that it would only reach about 100 meters of this material maximum. And it probably would be less than that. So again, it's like, what, what are we using these weapons for? Unless it's to send a signal or message that has nothing to do with the actual strike itself.

• 41:32Speaker 03

  I'd love to show you guys one thing real quick. Okay? Just humor me, please, if you don't mind.

• 41:38Speaker 04

  It's not your penetrator, I hope.

• 41:40Speaker 03

  No, no, no, that's, that's on Patreon, but I'd like to play this and let me know if you guys can hear this. Tucker Carlson, April 1st, 2026. That's August 6th, 2026. For people listening, August 29th, September 10th, 2026. Okay. So, yeah, very dramatic. Uh, I do enjoy these kinds of Twitter accounts that call out these, uh, you know, it's Tucker Carlson at the end of the day, right? I have no doubt that like Netanyahu particularly is probably lobbying for something crazy like this because the guy's out of his fucking mind and he's trying to claw onto power as best he can.

• 42:15Speaker 04

  Yeah. I mean, how much credence do we, should we give to someone who, I mean, who just, who just said, hey, I could have won the Vietnam War in a week. They kept bombing forest the years instead of going off to Ho Chi Minh City.

• 42:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 42:33Speaker 04

  Which by the way, D was Saigon back then, which was our city.

• 42:38Speaker 03

  Thank you. Yeah. I'm aware. I mean,

• 42:43Speaker 03

  don't get me crazy. Go vote, guys. Tomorrow's election.

• 42:46Speaker 05

  Netanyahu keeps saying that Iran is two weeks away or two months away from a nuclear bomb. He's been saying it for 23 years at the UN and other places. And it's almost like an interesting kind of overlap between what Tucker is doing every month and what Netanyahu is saying. There's, there's this like saber rattling about nuclear stuff generally that is designed to get people like to back the activity to say like, oh, that's a good, that's a good idea to do that.

• 43:08Speaker 03

  Well, they was kind of, they use the same thing a little bit in the communications when it came to Russia as well. Like if we continue to escalate with Russia, they could nuke something or somebody or tactically nuke Ukraine at some point, which still goes on and you get it from the hard right, like Tucker and the hard left from, you know, your favorite Mearsheimer, who's, you know, who in my opinion has lost the, lost the fucking plot in the last few years.

• 43:35Speaker 03

  You know, they, they give this credence to like, yeah, well, you know, Vladimir Putin will could nuke Estonia. And then what? You know?

• 43:46Speaker 05

  The thing is though, if you use nukes, it goes beyond the conflict. And I think that has what has kept this 80 year informal moratorium on using nuclear weapons is that states ultimately at the end of the day, according to Mearsheimer, are rational actors. And they're deciding that even though we might gain something tactically in these weapons use, we would kind of lose the long game. And I think the people that have the button in front of them to press it are kind of understanding that, even if they speak a different way or act a different way. It seems that over the last 80 years, we had a lot of opportunities to use nuclear weapons. I mean, the Cuban Missile Crisis was one, Able Archer, 1983, which people should read about. That was the closest the US and Russia ever came to killing each other with nuclear weapons in 1983. And that was a mistake of understanding about an exercise that was going on.

• 44:30Speaker 05

  And the Russians thought it was real and they almost launched. And so like, there have been numerous occasions besides these two where we almost did it. And like cooler heads prevailed. And even in the current administration, which some might argue is not a cool head, there seems to be some degree of rationalism inside somewhere in there where they're not doing this. Cause they could have used nuclear weapons and other, like last year, 2025, we could have nuked Natanz. We didn't, right? And that's probably because somebody has said like, there's a, here's the outcome of what you, what would happen if you did that. It's probably not going to help you.

• 45:05Speaker 03

  Yeah. Didn't Mearsheimer say the, that while ago, no? When he was like thinking with a straight head?

• 45:12Speaker 05

  Yeah. The tragedy of great power politics is the book that he talks about that, which is like a 30, 25, 30 year old book. Not a bad book. I recommend it.

• 45:19Speaker 03

  I'm sure it is good. I mean, he's probably in his prime and actually like cognitively functionable, functional.

• 45:24Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 45:26Speaker 04

  I mean,

• 45:29Speaker 04

  yeah. So I think, hey, you know, hopefully those watching this will feel reassured. And I'd say we, we put the nuclear threat to bed, right?

• 45:40Speaker 04

  Inshallah, I, you know, and it, and it does look as though, I mean, it's hard to, it's hard to piece through all the reports, but it does look as though some kind of deal was taking shape in, in Doha that could leave Iran with some enrichment in return for, for limits and, you know, inspections, a commitment on the stockpile, you know, something that looks quite like the JPOA actually, right?

• 46:09Speaker 04

  And I, and it seems as though there's back and forth on the sequencing, who does what first, right? But I mean, I, I would say there's a, there's a silver lining. And, um, and certainly for in the part of the world where I am now, Gulf countries, that's going to be a huge relief, you know, one of the biggest concerns, and this is no secret is being the, um, the lack, you know, the, the, the fact that interceptor stocks across the board are so low. And we've, you know, the US has just launched a Patriot system to Israel, but not to any of its other Gulf allies. And, and that is, that is foremost in the news here.

• 46:56Speaker 04

  There was just that, um, what was it called? The Menama Dialogue, the meeting in Bahrain, right? And, uh, and, and recurrent theme in, from all the Gulf countries is this fear that we're going to go back, that there's going to be another war in the region. No one wants it this time. No one, no one this time is urging, except for Netanyahu, is telling Trump, go ahead. Yeah, go on. They, they deserve it. We need to. Because there are going to be repercussions. And, um, and, and at the end of the day, we've tried this now. We've been trying this since February and it's just not working.

• 47:36Speaker 05

  And even in Israel, uh, if you've seen the media, it seems that some of the 19 Arab seats are going to back Eisenkot's coalition, which will remove the need for another election and a caretaker period. So it's, it could be that Netanyahu sees that his days are numbered and he's trying to achieve what he's always wanted to achieve within the limited number of days that he has, which is very few days to actually do something to Iran's nuclear program. You know, and I think that perhaps this, you know, this shadow statement about nuclear weapons may be trying to reorient the US public back onto the nuclear issue because we kind of drifted away from that with everything in the Straits of Hormuz. So it could be that certain people want the US to again, pay attention to the nuclear issue. And I know that they're talking about that in Doha too.

• 48:21Speaker 05

  And as you mentioned, Andy, it looks a lot like the JCPOA, but with less in it. And that was the challenge then, and it's going to be the challenge now where who acts first? And where, where is the good faith? Because I'm not defending the regime, but the regime adhered to the JCPOA and the US absconded from it. And the regime made very clear while we were exiting from it, that they were going to increase enrichment piece by piece incrementally over time, waiting for the US to rejoin. And the US now looks like a bad actor or a hard to trust actor because the last two years we've been negotiating, we use those negotiations as a cover for military operations. And so again, if they come to an agreement, Iran is going to require a lot of concessions from the United States as far as first action, first movement,

• 49:05Speaker 05

  to show that it's actually true that the US is going to do something. That's if we actually do agree to do something. It could be again, that we're using this as a ruse for the next seven days to put forces into position to again, resume kinetic operations.

• 49:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, you know, it's after what eight months of war, right? Two major bombing campaigns, repeated claims that Iran's nuclear program has been obliterated, and we're still debating the same questions, you know, where is the enriched uranium? What's happening inside Pickaxe Mountain? Can we reach it? And the honest answer is no one, no one knows, right? So the 440 kilograms of highly enriched uranium still not accounted for. Pickaxe Mountain probably out of reach, except in terms of what we talked about sealing it off.

• 50:02Speaker 04

  And, but, you know, the, in, yes, I think we've, I think we've dealt with Tucker Carlson's claim, but the fact that the idea is even being raised at all tells you how frustrated the administration is that, that bombing hasn't settled this so far, right? I, I agree with John, it's absolutely a, I mean, this wasn't a leak, this was given to Tucker Carlson, right? Basically, it was, to knowing exactly what he were doing with it, do with it. And, you know, meanwhile, as I said, I mean, countries with the most at stake, which are the Gulf countries, are now pushing hardest for a settlement.

• 50:45Speaker 04

  Qatar's mediating, UAE, Saudi Arabia, both calling for the same thing, diplomacy. And, and Iran too, talking now about reopening Hormuz within days of the blockade is lifted. So, I mean, the structure of the deal is there, it's, it's the sequencing, right? A timetable, guarantees. And, and what is missing, of course, is agreement on the whole nuclear issue. So, yeah, needless to say, the next few days are important, right?

• 51:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, I think, you know, people are wondering, you know, is the US going to resume operations and so on? And I think it's always important to think about when, when did the US have the most strikes versus the least amount of strikes in the past eight, eight months? Typically, it followed the market opening and closing hours. So like, for example, just because the elections are tomorrow, people shouldn't expect the war to start tomorrow. It, it would probably be chosen at a specific time that makes the most sense for what the administration believes is valuable, which in some cases has to do with the economy. So I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't happen tomorrow, or even the day after, maybe the weekend or Friday night, something like that, where the market's closed, so there's less damage done to the economy, as much as could be, you know, reduced.

• 52:01Speaker 03

  Yep. We'll see what happens, we'll see what goes on. Guys, if you're an American, go out and vote, if you haven't voted early, for the love of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. Uh, yeah, please, that's all I have to say about that. Yeah, and Tucker Carlson's a fucking, he's batshit fucking cuckoo. He like, you know, sees demons and shit, like, what are we talking about? Guy's a fucking loon.

• 52:25Speaker 04

  He's, he's got a, he's, he's made 50 million bucks and

• 52:32Speaker 03

  No, there's money in being a fucking loon, yeah.

• 52:35Speaker 04

  And, and has a massive audience who, who, who treat his words as though they're written on tablets of stone.

• 52:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's gospel, right?

• 52:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:48Speaker 05

  People want to believe that's human nature, people just want to believe.

• 52:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, he is a, he's a maven and, and certainly the perfect conduit, right? Someone who's been, uh, someone who, who has in the past, good right wing credentials, right? And yet is not beholden to the administration. I mean, he's a perfect guy to use as a conduit for this type of message.

• 53:15Speaker 05

  Some would say a useful idiot.

• 53:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was, yeah, that's, that was, one of my points.

• 53:23Speaker 03

  That's a total fair way to say, yeah, and his whole, his whole MO has been very similar to, uh, Candace Owens, and there's a lot of the MAGA, MAGA adjacent podcaster influencers who have like, kind of bucked the Trump administration ever since we went to war with Iran, uh, with Israel, you know? So, that's why it's all, it's pointed towards Netanyahu, like his whole tweet, so it's obvious what he's, what he's clearly doing, like, even if he is being used as a useful idiot to signal to Iran, um, he's using it through like, the guise of his anti Netanyahu, anti-Israel kind of scope.

• 54:02Speaker 03

  And that's why you have seen a lot of left wing, tanky, anti-Israel folks picking that up as well. Uh, you know, it's kind of singing the same tune, frankly. So it's gonna be an interesting, it's gonna be an interesting week, that's for sure.

• 54:21Speaker 04

  It's a strange convergence, you know, that the Israel thing has become a convergence between voices on the right, such as Tucker Carlson and Joe Ken, um, you know, from them to George Galloway, right? And in the same way, for a while, Ukraine was too.

• 54:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:41Speaker 04

  Strange.

• 54:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, that was, that honestly, that was extremely strange. It still is, it's kind of hard, it's, it's a head scratcher to like, witness and observe, frankly, because like, you can have your ideals and where you lean, like I do, but like, you can also think sort of kind of rationally, maybe?

• 54:58Speaker 04

  I mean, you had guys like, who was that idiot? Uh, Blumenthal.

• 55:03Speaker 03

  Max?

• 55:04Speaker 04

  Max Blumenthal, right? Um, and since

• 55:08Speaker 03

  He is one of those tanky, left wing kind of guys.

• 55:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, but, but, you know, the weird thing is, he went to, he, he, uh, his, I believe his wife worked for RT, he was, he went to, um, some big Russian media gala, uh, a couple of years ago, and then there were articles in, shit, was it the New York Times, some Wall Street Journal that showed that, um, the gray zone was taking money from Russia?

• 55:40Speaker 03

  Well, yeah, there was a handful, and there was also a handful of right wingers too, that were taking a lot of money from.

• 55:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, but it's weird, isn't it, that, that Russia was funding a left wing site like Gray Zone and idiots like Blumenthal, as well as right wing idiots?

• 55:55Speaker 03

  Tim Poole, Dave Rubin, uh, Chung.

• 55:59Speaker 04

  Who's your, uh, who's, who's that friend of yours, Scott Ritter? All these guys?

• 56:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, good pal of mine, yeah, really good fucking friend of mine, Andy. How dare you? All right, guys, I want you to do us a favor, I want you to check out Andy's and John's links in the description for their books and their Substack, Andy's Substack, and, uh, their socials, all that stuff, and go to patreon.com slash Team House, get episodes ad free and early and support the show, please, thank you. Guys, a pleasure as always.

• 56:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, great to be on this special nuclear episode.

• 56:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, go vote for the love of God.

• 56:35Speaker 04

  Depending on what happens. Hopefully, we won't be meeting tomorrow to talk about the shape of mushroom cloud over Pickaxe Mountain and unpack what we said the day before. Okay.

• 56:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, when the Wikipedia article says Pickaxe Mountain was.

• 56:49Speaker 04

  Yeah. Very poor jokes.

• 56:54Speaker 03

  Thanks, guys.

• 56:55Speaker 04

  All right, see you, see you tomorrow.

• 56:57Speaker 03

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• 57:36Speaker 07

  This is Troy Millings. As someone who travels a lot for work, I really appreciate a premium airport experience. With the Delta Sky Miles Reserve Business American Express Card, it truly feels like you can have it all. For a limited time, new Delta Sky Miles Reserve Business Card members can earn 200,000 bonus miles, the highest miles offered this year. Card members can also enjoy 15 visits to the Delta Sky Club each medallion year when flying Delta, and you can unlock unlimited Delta Sky Club access after spending $75,000 in purchases on your card during a calendar year. Those are benefits you can get behind. You also get four one-time guest passes each medallion year, so you can bring a friend

• 58:20Speaker 07

  or colleague along. 15 Sky Club visits plus four guest passes? That's up to $950 in annual value. Value estimate based on a $50 per visit rate to purchase additional visits or bring a guest to the Delta Sky Club. It's the kind of premium access that helps you feel right at home and at ease, no matter where you're headed. Apply today at www.delta.com/podcast. Offer ends November 4th, 2026. Minimum spending requirements and terms apply.

• 58:51Speaker 01

  Sponsored by GSK, the makers of Extenture, Depamocumab ULAa. If your asthma keeps interrupting, it may be time to try something else. Extenture is an ultra-long-acting prescription maintenance treatment for severe asthma, eosinophilic type, ages 12 and older. It isn't for sudden breathing problems. Extenture is the first and only add-on treatment that can help deliver protection from asthma attacks with two doses a year. Just one dose every six months. That's a lot of time for everything in between. Serious allergic reactions can occur. Get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. Don't change or stop medicines, including steroids, unless told by your doctor. Report

• 59:34Speaker 01

  You have a parasitic infection, common cold, sinus infection, inflammation in the nose, flu or fluke-like symptoms, joint pain or sore throat may occur. Carry on with fewer attacks and ask your doctor about Extensure. Learn more at Extensure.com or call 1-833-393-3678.

• 59:54Speaker 00

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• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  This is Joel Larsgaard from How To Money. As someone who travels a lot for work, I really appreciate a premium airport experience. With the Delta SkyMiles Reserve Business American Express Card, it truly feels like you can have it all. For a limited time, new Delta SkyMiles Reserve Business Card members can earn 200,000 bonus miles, the highest miles offered this year. Yeah, card members can also enjoy 15 visits to the Delta Sky Club each medallion year when flying Delta, and you can unlock unlimited Delta Sky Club access after spending $75,000 in purchases on your card during a calendar year. Those are benefits you can get behind. You also get four one-time guest passes each medallion year, so you can bring a friend or a colleague along.

• 1:01:42Speaker 01

  15 Sky Club visits plus four guest passes? That's up to $950 in annual value. Value estimate based on $50 per visit rate to purchase additional visits or bring a guest to the Delta Sky Club. It's that kind of premium access that helps you feel right at home and at ease no matter where you're heading. Apply today at delta.com/podcast. Offer ends November 4th. Minimum spending requirements and terms apply. Sponsored by GSK, the makers of Extensure, Depamocumab ULAA. If your asthma keeps interrupting, it may be time to try something else. Extensure is an ultra-long-acting prescription maintenance treatment for severe asthma, eosinophilic type, ages 12 and older. It isn't for sudden breathing problems.

• 1:02:27Speaker 01

  Extensure is the first and only add-on treatment that can help deliver protection from asthma attacks with two doses a year. Just one dose every six months. That's a lot of time for everything in between. Serious allergic reactions can occur. Get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. Don't change or stop medicines, including steroids, unless told by your doctor. Report if you have a parasitic infection, common cold, sinus infection, inflammation in the nose, flu or fluke-like symptoms, joint pain or sore throat may occur. Carry on with fewer attacks and ask your doctor about Extensure. Learn more at Extensure.com or call 1-833-393-3678.

• 1:03:08Speaker 07

  Oh, I have had no luck lately. Wait, lady luck?

• 1:03:13Speaker 01

  Brett, see, I got you. I've had so much luck on SpinQuest.com. They have all of my favorite games, slot games, live blackjack, craps, and bubble craps. You can even get a $30 coin pack for just $10.

• 1:03:26Speaker 07

  $10 for 30? I'm headed over to SpinQuest.com right now.

• 1:03:30Speaker 01

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• 1:03:38Speaker 02

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• 1:04:14Speaker 01

  This is Joel Larsgaard from How To Money. As someone who travels a lot for work, I really appreciate a premium airport experience. With the Delta SkyMiles Reserve Business American Express Card, it truly feels like you can have it all. For a limited time, new Delta SkyMiles Reserve Business Card members can earn 200,000 bonus miles, the highest miles offered this year. Yeah, card members can also enjoy 15 visits to the Delta Sky Club each medallion year when flying Delta, and you can unlock unlimited Delta Sky Club access after spending $75,000 in purchases on your card during a calendar year. Those are benefits you can get behind. You also get four one-time guest passes each medallion year, so you can bring a friend or a colleague along.

• 1:04:57Speaker 01

  15 Sky Club visits plus four guest passes? That's up to $950 in annual value. Value estimate based on $50 per visit rate to purchase additional visits or bring a guest to the Delta Sky Club. It's that kind of premium access that helps you feel right at home and at ease no matter where you're heading. Apply today at delta.com/podcast. Offer ends November 4th. Minimum spending requirements and terms apply. Sponsored by GSK, the makers of Extensure, Depamocumab ULAA. If your asthma keeps interrupting, it may be time to try something else. Extensure is an ultra-long-acting prescription maintenance treatment for severe asthma, eosinophilic type, ages 12 and older. It isn't for sudden breathing problems.

• 1:05:41Speaker 01

  Extensure is the first and only add-on treatment that can help deliver protection from asthma attacks with two doses a year. Just one dose every six months. That's a lot of time for everything in between. Serious allergic reactions can occur. Get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. Don't change or stop medicines, including steroids, unless told by your doctor. Report if you have a parasitic infection, common cold, sinus infection, inflammation in the nose, flu or fluke-like symptoms, joint pain or sore throat may occur. Carry on with fewer attacks and ask your doctor about Extensure. Learn more at Extensure.com or call 1-833-393-3678.

• 1:06:23Speaker 07

  Oh, I have had no luck lately. Wait, lady luck?

• 1:06:28Speaker 01

  Brett, see, I got you. I've had so much luck on SpinQuest.com. They have all of my favorite games, slot games, live blackjack, craps, and bubble craps. You can even get a $30 coin pack for just $10.

• 1:06:41Speaker 07

  $10 for 30? I'm headed over to SpinQuest.com right now.

• 1:06:45Speaker 01

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• 1:06:53Speaker 01

  Cash Flow Crunch? OnDeck's small business line of credit gives your business immediate access to funds up to $200,000 right when you need it. Cover seasonal dips, manage payroll, restock inventory, or tackle unexpected expenses without missing a beat. With flexible draws, transparent pricing, and control over repayment, get funded quickly and confidently. Apply today at OnDeck.com. Funds could be available as soon as tomorrow. Depending on certain loan attributes, your business loan may be issued by OnDeck or Celtic Bank. OnDeck does not lend in North Dakota. All loans and amounts subject to lender approval.

• 1:07:29Speaker 07

  This is Troy Millings. As someone who travels a lot for work, I really appreciate a premium airport experience. With the Delta SkyMiles Reserve Business American Express Card, it truly feels like you can have it all. For a limited time, new Delta SkyMiles Reserve Business Card members can earn 200,000 bonus miles, the highest miles offered this year. Card members can also enjoy 15 visits to the Delta Sky Club each medallion year when flying Delta, and you can unlock unlimited Delta Sky Club access after spending $75,000 in purchases on your card during a calendar year. Those are benefits you can get behind. You also get four one-time guest passes each medallion year, so you can bring a friend or colleague along.

• 1:08:12Speaker 07

  15 Sky Club visits plus four guest passes? That's up to $950 in annual value. Value estimate based on a $50 per visit rate to purchase additional visits or bring a guest to the Delta Sky Club. It's the kind of premium access that helps you feel right at home and at ease no matter where you're headed. Apply today at www.delta.com/podcast. Offer ends November 4th, 2026. Minimum spending requirements and terms apply.

• 1:08:43Speaker 01

  Sponsored by GSK, the makers of Extensure, Depamocumab ULAA. If your asthma keeps interrupting,

• 1:08:51Speaker 01

  it may be time to try something else. Extensure is an ultra-long-acting prescription maintenance treatment for severe asthma, eosinophilic type, ages 12 and older. It isn't for sudden breathing problems. Extensure is the first and only add-on treatment that can help deliver protection from asthma attacks with two doses a year. Just one dose every six months. That's a lot of time for Everything in between. Serious allergic reactions can occur. Get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. Don't change or stop medicines, including steroids, unless told by your doctor. Report if you have a parasitic infection. Common cold, sinus infection, inflammation in the nose, flu or flulike symptoms, joint pain or sore throat may occur.

• 1:09:33Speaker 01

  Carry on with fewer attacks and ask your doctor about Extenture. Learn more at extenture.com or call 1-833-393-3678.

• 1:09:44Speaker 00

  Hanging out at the pool is great. Relaxing and playing Vegas-style games on my phone at the same time. Drinking one hand and a blackjack in the other. It's all at Spinquest. Over 1,000 games, including your favorite slots and table games. Be cool with this summer special. New players get $30 coin packs for 10 at spinquest.com.

• 1:10:07Speaker 01

  Spinquest is a free-to-play social casino. Void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details.

• 1:10:13Speaker 04

  OnDeck is built to back small businesses like yours. Whether you're buying equipment, expanding your team, or bridging cash flow gaps, OnDeck's loans up to $400,000 help make it happen fast. Rated A+ by the Better Business Bureau and earning thousands of five-star TrustPilot reviews, OnDeck delivers funding you can count on. Apply in minutes at ondeck.com. Depending on certain loan attributes, your business loan may be issued by OnDeck or Celtic Bank. OnDeck does not lend in North Dakota. All loans and amounts subject to lender approval.

• 1:10:50Speaker 04

  This is Joel Larsgaard from How To Money. As someone who travels a lot for work, I really appreciate a premium airport experience. With the Delta SkyMiles Reserve Business American Express Card, it truly feels like you can have it all. For a limited time, new Delta SkyMiles Reserve Business Card members can earn 200,000 bonus miles, the highest miles offered this year.

• 1:11:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, card members can also enjoy 15 visits to the Delta Sky Club each medallion year when flying Delta, and you can unlock unlimited Delta Sky Club access after spending $75,000 in purchases on your card during a calendar year. Those are benefits you can get behind. You also get four one-time guest passes each medallion year, so you can bring a friend or a colleague along. 15 Sky Club visits plus four guest passes? That's up to $950 in annual value. Value estimate based on $50 per visit rate to purchase additional visits or bring a guest to the Delta Sky Club. It's that kind of premium access that helps you feel right at home and at ease, no matter where you're heading. Apply today at delta.com/podcast.

• 1:11:54Speaker 01

  Offer ends November 4th. Minimum spending requirements and terms apply. Sponsored by GSK, the makers of Extenture. Depamocumab ULAA. If your asthma keeps interrupting, it may be time to try something else. Extenture is an ultra-long-acting prescription maintenance treatment for severe asthma, eosinophilic type, ages 12 and older. It isn't for sudden breathing problems. Extenture is the first and only add-on treatment that can help deliver protection from asthma attacks with two doses a year. Just one dose every six months. That's a lot of time for everything in between. Serious allergic reactions can occur. Get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. Don't change or stop medicines, including steroids, unless told by your doctor.

• 1:12:39Speaker 01

  Report if you have a parasitic infection. Common cold, sinus infection, inflammation in the nose, flu or flulike symptoms, joint pain or sore throat may occur. Carry on with fewer attacks and ask your doctor about Extenture. Learn more at extenture.com or call 1-833-393-3678.

• 1:12:58Speaker 04

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• 1:13:22Speaker 01

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• 1:14:07Speaker 02

  This is Joel Larsgaard from How To Money. As someone who travels a lot for work, I really appreciate a premium airport experience. With the Delta SkyMiles Reserve Business American Express

• 1:14:17Speaker 01

  Card, it truly feels like you can have it all. For a limited time, new Delta SkyMiles Reserve Business Card members can earn 200,000 bonus miles, the highest miles offered this year. Yeah, card members can also enjoy 15 visits to the Delta Sky Club each medallion year when flying Delta, and you can unlock unlimited Delta Sky Club access after spending $75,000 in purchases on your card during a calendar year. Those are benefits you can get behind. You also get four one-time guest passes each medallion year, so you can bring a friend or a colleague along. 15 Sky Club visits plus four guest passes? That's up to $950 in annual value. Value estimate based on $50 per visit rate to purchase

• 1:14:59Speaker 01

  additional visits or bring a guest to the Delta Sky Club. It's that kind of premium access that helps you feel right at home and at ease, no matter where you're heading. Apply today at delta.com/podcast. Offer ends November 4th. Minimum spending requirements and terms apply. Sponsored by GSK, the makers of Extenture. Depamocumab ULAA. If your asthma keeps interrupting, it may be time to try something else. Extenture is an ultra-long-acting prescription maintenance treatment for severe asthma, eosinophilic type, ages 12 and older. It isn't for sudden breathing problems. Extenture is the first and only add-on treatment that can help deliver protection from asthma attacks with two doses a year. Just one dose every six months.

• 1:15:43Speaker 01

  That's a lot of time for everything in between. Serious allergic reactions can occur. Get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. Don't change or stop medicines, including steroids, unless told by your doctor. Report if you have a parasitic infection. Common cold, sinus infection, inflammation in the nose, flu or flulike symptoms, joint pain or sore throat may occur. Carry on with fewer attacks and ask your doctor about Extenture. Learn more at extenture.com or call 1-833-393-3678.

• 1:16:16Speaker 07

  Oh, I have had no luck lately. Wait, Lady Luck?

• 1:16:20Speaker 04

  Brett's key, I got you. I've had so much luck on spinquest.com. They have all of my favorite games, slot games, live blackjack, craps, and bubble craps. You can even get a $30 coin pack for just $10.

• 1:16:34Speaker 07

  $10 for 30? I'm headed over to spinquest.com right now.

• 1:16:38Speaker 01

  Spinquest is a free-to-play social casino. Void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details.

• 1:16:45Speaker 04

  OnDeck is built to back small businesses like yours. Whether you're buying equipment, expanding your team, or bridging cash flow gaps, OnDeck's loans up to $400,000 help make it happen fast. Rated A+ by the Better Business Bureau and earning thousands of five-star TrustPilot reviews, OnDeck delivers funding you can count on. Apply in minutes at ondeck.com. Depending on certain loan attributes, your business loan may be issued by OnDeck or Celtic Bank. OnDeck does not lend in North Dakota. All loans and amounts subject to lender approval.

• 1:17:24Speaker 07

  This is Troy Millings. As someone who travels a lot for work, I really appreciate a premium airport experience. With the Delta SkyMiles Reserve Business American Express Card, it truly feels like you can have it all. For a limited time, new Delta SkyMiles Reserve Business Card members can earn 200,000 bonus miles, the highest miles offered this year. Card members can also enjoy 15 visits to the Delta Sky Club each medallion year when flying Delta, and you can unlock unlimited Delta Sky Club access after spending $75,000 in purchases on your card during a calendar year. Those are benefits you can get behind. You also get four one-time guest passes each medallion year, so you can bring a friend or colleague along.

• 1:18:07Speaker 07

  15 Sky Club visits plus four guest passes? That's up to $950 in annual value. Value estimate based on a $50 per visit rate to purchase additional visits or bring a guest to the Delta Sky Club. It's the kind of premium access that helps you feel right at home and at ease, no matter where you're headed. Apply today at www.delta.com/podcast. Offer ends November 4th, 2026. Minimum spending requirements and terms apply.

• 1:18:38Speaker 01

  Sponsored by GSK, the makers of Extenture. Depamocumab ULAA. If your asthma keeps interrupting,

• 1:18:46Speaker 01

  it may be time to try something else. Extenture is an ultra-long-acting prescription maintenance treatment for severe asthma, eosinophilic type, ages 12 and older. It isn't for sudden breathing problems. Extenture is the first and only add-on treatment that can help deliver protection from asthma attacks with two doses a year. Just one dose every six months. That's a lot of time for everything in between.

• 1:19:08Speaker 02

  Serious allergic reactions can occur. Get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. Don't change or stop medicines, including steroids, unless told by your doctor. Report if you have a parasitic infection. Common cold, sinus infection, inflammation in the nose, flu or fluke-like symptoms, joint pain or sore throat may occur. Carry on with fewer attacks and ask your doctor about Extenture. Learn more at Extenture.com or call 1-833-393-3678.

• 1:19:39Speaker 00

  Forget whatever plans you have this weekend because you're staying at home and playing on Spinquest. And there's never been a better time to sign up than right now. New users get $30 coin packs for just $10. All the table games you love with hundreds of slot games and real cash prizes. That's at Spinquest.com. S-P-I-N-Q-U-E-S-T.com.

• 1:20:01Speaker 01

  Spinquest is a free-to-play social casino. Void where prohibited. Visit Spinquest.com for more details.

• 1:20:08Speaker 02

  Cash flow crunch? OnDeck's small business line of credit gives your business immediate access to funds up to $200,000 right when you need it. Cover seasonal dips, manage payroll, restock inventory, or tackle unexpected expenses without missing a beat. With flexible draws, transparent pricing, and control over repayment, get funded quickly and confidently. Apply today at OnDeck.com. Funds could be available as soon as tomorrow. Depending on certain loan attributes, your business loan may be issued by OnDeck or Celtic Bank. OnDeck does not lend in North Dakota. All loans and amounts subject to lender approval.

• 1:20:48Speaker 07

  This is Troy Millings. As someone who travels a lot for work, I really appreciate a premium airport experience. With the Delta SkyMiles Reserve Business American Express Card, it truly feels like you can have it all. For a limited time, new Delta SkyMiles Reserve Business Card members can earn 200,000 bonus miles, the highest miles offered this year. Card members can also enjoy 15 visits to the Delta Sky Club each medallion year when flying Delta, and you can unlock unlimited Delta Sky Club access after spending $75,000 in purchases on your card during a calendar year. Those are benefits you can get behind. You also get four one-time guest passes each medallion year, so you can bring a friend or colleague along.

• 1:21:31Speaker 07

  15 Sky Club visits plus four guest passes? That's up to $950,000 annual value. Value estimate based on a $50 per visit rate to purchase additional visits or bring a guest to the Delta Sky Club. It's the kind of premium access that helps you feel right at home and at ease no matter where you're headed. Apply today at www.delta.com/podcast. Offer ends November 4, 2026. Minimum spending requirements and terms apply.

• 1:22:02Speaker 02

  Sponsored by GSK, the makers of Extenture. Depamocumab ULAA. If your asthma keeps interrupting,

• 1:22:10Speaker 02

  it may be time to try something else. Extenture is an ultra-long-acting prescription maintenance treatment for severe asthma, eosinophilic type, ages 12 and older. It isn't for sudden breathing problems. Extenture is the first and only add-on treatment that can help deliver protection from asthma attacks with two doses a year. Just one dose every six months. That's a lot of time for everything in between. Serious allergic reactions can occur. Get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. Don't change or stop medicines, including steroids, unless told by your doctor. Report if you have a parasitic infection. Common cold, sinus infection, inflammation in the nose, flu or fluke-like symptoms, joint pain or sore throat may occur.

• 1:22:52Speaker 02

  Carry on with fewer attacks and ask your doctor about Extenture. Learn more at Extenture.com or call 1-833-393-3678.

• 1:23:03Speaker 07

  Oh, I have had no luck lately. Wait, lady luck?

• 1:23:07Speaker 02

  Bresky, I got you. I've had so much luck on Spinquest.com. They have all of my favorite games, slot games, live blackjack, craps, and bubble craps. You can even get a $30 coin pack for just $10.

• 1:23:21Speaker 07

  $10 for 30? I'm heading over to Spinquest.com right now.

• 1:23:25Speaker 01

  Spinquest is a free-to-play social casino. Void where prohibited. Visit Spinquest.com for more details.

• 1:23:32Speaker 02

  OnDeck is built to back small businesses like yours. Whether you're buying equipment, expanding your team, or bridging cash flow gaps, OnDeck's loans up to $400,000 make it happen fast. Rated A+ by the Better Business Bureau and earning thousands of five-star TrustPilot reviews, OnDeck delivers funding you can count on. Apply in minutes at OnDeck.com. Depending on certain loan attributes, your business loan may be issued by OnDeck or Celtic Bank. OnDeck does not lend in North Dakota. All loans and amounts subject to lender approval.

• 1:24:07Speaker 07

  This is Troy Millings. As someone who travels a lot for work, I really appreciate a premium airport experience. With the Delta SkyMiles Reserve Business American Express Card, it truly feels like you can have it all. For a limited time, new Delta SkyMiles Reserve Business Card members can earn 200,000 bonus miles, the highest miles offered this year. Card members can also enjoy 15 visits to the Delta Sky Club each medallion year when flying Delta, and you can unlock unlimited Delta Sky Club access after spending $75,000 in purchases on your card during a calendar year. Those are benefits you can get behind. You also get four one-time guest passes each medallion year, so you can bring a friend or colleague along.

• 1:24:50Speaker 07

  15 Sky Club visits plus four guest passes? That's up to $950,000 annual value. Value estimate based on a $50 per visit rate to purchase additional visits or bring a guest to the Delta Sky Club. It's the kind of premium access that helps you feel right at home and at ease no matter where you're headed. Apply today at www.delta.com/podcast. Offer ends November 4, 2026. Minimum spending requirements and terms apply.

• 1:25:21Speaker 02

  Sponsored by GSK, the makers of Extenture. Depamocumab ULAA. If your asthma keeps interrupting, it may be time to try something else. Extenture is an ultra-long-acting prescription maintenance treatment for severe asthma, eosinophilic type, ages 12 and older. It isn't for sudden breathing problems. Extenture is the first and only add-on treatment that can help deliver protection from asthma attacks with two doses a year. Just one dose every six months. That's a lot of time for everything in between. Serious allergic reactions can occur. Get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. Don't change or stop medicines, including steroids, unless told by your doctor. Report if you have a parasitic infection.

• 1:26:04Speaker 02

  Common cold, sinus infection, inflammation in the nose, flu or fluke-like symptoms, joint pain or sore throat may occur. Carry on with fewer attacks and ask your doctor about Extenture. Learn more at Extenture.com or call 1-833-393-3678.

• 1:26:22Speaker 00

  Hanging out at the pool is great. Relaxing and playing Vegas-style games on my phone at the same time. Drinking one hand and a blackjack in the other. It's all at Spinquest. Over 1,000 games, including your favorite slots and table games. Be cool with this summer special. New players get $30 coin packs for 10 at Spinquest.com.

• 1:26:45Speaker 01

  Spinquest is a free-to-play social casino. Void where prohibited. Visit Spinquest.com for more details.

• 1:26:52Speaker 02

  OnDeck is built to back small businesses like yours. Whether you're buying equipment, expanding your team, or bridging cash flow gaps, OnDeck's loans up to $400,000 make it happen fast. Rated A+ by the Better Business Bureau and earning thousands of five-star TrustPilot reviews, OnDeck delivers funding you can count on. Apply in minutes at OnDeck.com. Depending on certain loan attributes, your business loan may be issued by OnDeck or Celtic Bank. OnDeck does not lend in North Dakota. All loans and amounts subject to lender approval.

• 1:27:22Speaker 02

  Sponsored by GSK, the makers of Extenture. Depamocumab ULAA. If your asthma keeps interrupting,

• 1:27:30Speaker 02

  it may be time to try something else. Extenture is an ultra-long-acting prescription maintenance treatment for severe asthma, eosinophilic type, ages 12 and older. It isn't for sudden breathing problems. Extenture is the first and only add-on treatment that can help deliver protection from asthma attacks with two doses a year. Just one dose every six months. That's a lot of time for everything in between. Serious allergic reactions can occur. Get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. Don't change or stop medicines, including steroids, unless told by your doctor. Report if you have a parasitic infection. Common cold, sinus infection, inflammation in the nose, flu or fluke-like symptoms, joint pain or sore throat may occur.

• 1:28:12Speaker 02

  Carry on with fewer attacks and ask your doctor about Extenture. Learn more at Extenture.com or call 1-833-393-3678.

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