SC EP:1184 Bigfoot Live Stream

Tonight I will be chatting with the creator of the Bigfoot Live Stream App. Logan will be sharing his encounters and why he created this app. https://sasquatchchronicles.com/?attachment_id=276608 This app features the ability view 24/7 live streams of Bigfoot Hot Zones. Subscription Information - Title: 24/7 Bigfoot Live Stream - Length of Subscription: Monthly - Price: $4.99 per month By subscribing, you get access to: | All available live streams | Access to Video On Demand of of every live stream for the past 2 weeks | Uploaded videos from user reports | News and updates | First to see footage reports | Report sightings live! | ML and AI reporting By creating a login you will then have access to subscribe to the 24/7 Bigfoot Live Stream, this is critical in the function of the app for subscribers. Users will need to first create an account for it is a necessary function within the subscription of the app. Before you create an account, users will have access to content describing about the livestream and Bigfoot Collaboration. Everything pre sign-up is information about the subscription, and our mission statement. You do not get any access to any content for creating an account. Once you create an account it only gives you access to subscribe. If you choose to remove your account there is a link in account section for removal.

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• 0:03Speaker 00

  It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me. They don't make people that big.

• 0:31Speaker 01

  The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life.

• 0:45Speaker 01

  They were screaming at each other in gibberish.

• 0:49Speaker 01

  It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away, back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards.

• 0:56Speaker 01

  I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw bears.

• 1:13Speaker 02

  911, what are you reporting?

• 1:14Speaker 03

  Jesus Christ, you better...

• 1:16Speaker 02

  Sir?

• 1:16Speaker 03

  See ya!

• 1:18Speaker 02

  Hello?

• 1:19Speaker 03

  Get somebody out here.

• 1:20Speaker 02

  What's going on now, sir?

• 1:21Speaker 03

  That son of a bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know.

• 1:24Speaker 02

  Do you see him now, sir?

• 1:25Speaker 03

  Yes, I'm looking right at him.

• 1:27Speaker 02

  Uh-oh.

• 1:31Speaker 04

  Hi, I'm Becky. And I'm Mercedes. We're looking for a guy with big feet, 6'8", brown eyes, always hides. We found him on our favorite podcast. Sasquatch Chronicles!

• 2:10Wes Germer?

  Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. Got a great show planned for you. We'll be chatting with Logan. And Logan created an app called the Bigfoot Livestream Project. I've downloaded the app. I haven't used it yet. And I kind of want him to go into what this app is about. I kind of had a similar idea many years ago, but it never came to fruition, mainly because of money. It costs a fortune to make these apps. And what Logan is doing is very cool. He's setting up these systems on people's sites where they have encounters. And the app is collecting all this data. You can livestream cameras

• 2:55Wes Germer?

  from different sites. And it's a really cool idea. So we'll be chatting with Logan about his app and kind of his experiences. What kind of brought him into wanting to create this app? If you've had an encounter, and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is [email protected]. And if you get a chance, check out sasquatchchronicles.com. You can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Logan to the show. Logan, thanks for coming on. Yeah, great to be here.

• 3:35Wes Germer?

  Yeah, and I want to get into this Bigfoot livestream app that you created, kind of for the audience, if they were to download it, what is it? You know, that sort of thing. Before we chat about the app, I know that you've had a few experiences. Tell me about your experiences. When was the first one? And kind of walk me into what happened?

• 3:59Speaker 06

  Sure. Um, so to preface it, you know, I've always been interested in the subject, the topic kinda really got more vamp, like, right before COVID in that era, I've been really getting into podcasts and documentaries. But I was listening to Coast to Coast one day, and I actually heard Todd Standing talking about, you know, his documentary and his, his site and everything. So I got intrigued, um, by him because I'd never really heard of him. But I did a lot of deep research on him and, you know, and went down the rabbit hole like everyone does, I think. And you know, he's got a lot of haters and a lot of, you know, it's 50/50 with Todd.

• 4:43Speaker 06

  But I, I, I kinda really wanted to have a Bigfoot expeditions where it's not just camping out in the woods with some, uh, maybe some BFRO folks. Like, I really wanted like a, a hot zone, high frequency area. So I, I wanted to see what Todd was about. So I actually went out with Todd and I, I know, I know you've had, um, Craig on. I actually was out there with Craig, um, for one or two expeditions. Um, I know he was on one of your recent podcasts. Uh, so really, a lot of my experiences have been out in British Columbia, in between the radium hot springs and the Banff area, close to the Kootenay River. Um,

• 5:26Speaker 06

  Todd has a location up there. I've been all out there. I've actually been out there probably six times. Um, it kind of inspired me to do some extra work. So I, uh, I, I do know Todd and a, a, a great deal. I'll preface that I, I, although I do somewhat work with Todd, I, I'm not like in, like, collaborate with him. I'm doing my own project and kinda going over the, all over the US and Canada with it and trying to open it up. Um, but Todd's area is, from my experience, a hot, a hot zone, high frequency area.

• 6:06Speaker 06

  Um, just for me going out there. So I, I won't go over the stuff that Craig's kinda gone with you on. I'll go over my own experiences that I've had. So I've got a, probably have at least, I don't know, somewhere between five and 10 different, uh, experiences there. It was 2023, um, and I was out there. Uh, in the middle of 2023 and I was on extradition with Todd and this would be my third time out there. And we had a lot of different interactions that time. I was out there with two people from Pennsylvania. They were brothers. Um, they were also on the expedition.

• 6:47Speaker 06

  And, um, I believe Ashley Todd's, um, companion girlfriend was out there as well at some point. But, um, really the ones that stuck out to me during that expedition was. Todd had basically gotten, uh, he had run out of gas in his truck and he had. He had to go to the nearest gas station to get gas so we could go further into the mountains the next day. Um, cause we didn't fill up gas because there we went through like a hailstorm on the way up there and you just kind of spaced on it. Um, but so he had left and took his truck to go get gas, which is the closest gas station is about 60 miles away. So a little counterintuitive, but we need gas to get there and get back.

• 7:30Speaker 06

  Um, so I was out there with, with Dan and his brother and we had, um. There's a, basically a trail, an old logging trail there that cuts into. The Kootenay and then, uh, the Kootenay forest and there's some new growth and old growth that they'd never cut through and they probably haven't. Bogged there in 70 years, but we were kind of hanging on the edge of that tree line and I was, I actually had a body cam on and. I was trying to get things sorted and I started hearing some, some wood knocks in the forest. So I went and got. Uh, Dan and his brother and said, hey, let's just go this way. We're waiting on Todd. Um, so we ended up going that way and.

• 8:12Speaker 06

  As we were going, um, we would periodically hear a couple of like, I would call them wood knocks. So, um, I would, I would, uh, just kind of do my tongue pop like, like that and do two back and. Um, Dan and his brother Matt, they're, they're pretty good at whistling. So they just kind of whistle back and we, we were following the sound. And this was about three, three thirty in the afternoon. It was kinda hot that day. It was middle of the summer, about eighty degrees, um, so more hotter, eighty, eighty-five degrees, so hotter than usual in the mountains. Um, so we were following the sound and every time we would pop or whistle, we get a response back.

• 8:54Speaker 06

  So it wasn't like this random tree rubbing in the woods or wind blowing. There was actually no wind that day. It was just hot and kinda a little bit humid, to be fair. But it, um, we were following this and it was just freaking like, kinda freaking us out because we, we were having these responses back and forth, back and forth. And we just kept walking towards it and we're like, well, what do we do? Well, let's just walk towards it, right? So we just kept walking towards it and I would sound off, they would sound off and we'd get bang, bang. And then sometimes it would be bang, bang, bang, like, so I, I don't generally hear three knocks. It's usually two. Um, but I was getting two and then every now and then it would be three.

• 9:35Speaker 06

  So we ended up all getting to this, um, cut line where the old growth starts. And then we get kind of in a triangular formation. We're all in different separations and I'm kinda yelling at this point. I'm kinda like, this is kinda unreal because we're getting so much response back. So I'm trying to talk to them, but they're too far away. So I can't even really see them anymore. We're all kinda separated. So I finally get, and we're, I'm climbing over dead fall all over these trees and I finally get to Matt. And, uh, I see he's standing underneath a tree and, uh, then Dan gets there and they're looking up and this is

• 10:16Speaker 06

  an, uh, pretty old tree. I mean, I'm not a tree expert, but it's about a hundred, hundred and twenty feet tall and kinda on its own a bit. Doesn't really have any other trees up against it. And it's, you know, really big in diameter. Again, I'm, I don't know how to measure it, at least two feet, three feet. It was a really big, big tree. So he's looking at it. I'm like, what's going on? He's like, well, the sounds are coming from the top of that tree. And I said, what do you, what do, what do you mean? He's like, just sit here and listen. So I'm sitting there, I'm listening. And then you just hear pop, pop, right? Like, he's like, I think there's something up that tree. I was like, so about sixty feet up, there's like no branches, no limbs and then.

• 10:58Speaker 06

  Somewhere between sixty, seventy feet, probably it starts getting a little bit thicker and it goes up and you can't really see through the foliage. And it's, you know, it's tall. So we're kind of circling this tree, looking up and as we're talking. Like it would interrupt us and just. Sound off and do two bangs, right? And we're like, well, I don't understand what this is. So we're trying to hypothesize like, what is this? Is it natural? Like, what's going on? I've never heard a tree talk to me before. Um, and I've been out there for a while and. I'm sitting down on this down tree and we're talking and it keeps sounding off. And then we start walking around. Looking for. Tracks, anything really.

• 11:37Speaker 06

  We found one big fifteen inch track and then we go ten, fifteen feet north of that track and there's some juvenile tracks and they're pretty clear. They're in the. They're in the, uh, the, the, the moss and they're, you know, I don't, I'm, I'm not a tracker, so I couldn't tell you how old they are. They looked somewhat new to me, in my opinion. But, you know, it was kind of an interesting area. So we just kind of sat there and it just kept. Going and going and. And so they were gonna like, um. A little bit in disbelief. I was kind of open to, it could be something natural, could be. I don't know, it could be something weird. Um.

• 12:18Speaker 06

  So they were thinking, maybe it's a, like a, a tree, whatever they're called, uh. A stump or whatever, whatever the round part of the tree is called. I'm, I'm losing my, uh, train of thought here. And maybe it's like expanding with the heat and popping or something. And it didn't really sound like that, but I'm, I was open to it and I was like, well, maybe that's what it is. I don't know. Um, in hindsight, I really wish I had just sat there and waited and s- s- saw what happened. Uh, so we. We literally sat there for probably about thirty, forty-five minutes and I have a. Uh, a good, fair amount of this on the body cam. You can hear the, the trees pop, the tree pops and kind of the, the whole process of me walking towards it.

• 13:02Speaker 06

  Um, but those body cams really aren't made for sound, right? They're really more for visual. It's like a police body cam more than anything. Um, and it's, you know, you can hear it, but it's not what it, you know, could be with some real audio equipment. So. I mean, it's it was really interesting. Um, we ended up walking away and as we're walking away, it kind of gave us one last pop and we didn't even hear it again, right? So we get back to base camp. By then Todd is back. He got back with his truck and, you know, we're all kind of interested to see what he would say. And he's like, you know, I've never ever heard that before. I've been out here for 15 years. I've never had a tree,

• 13:43Speaker 06

  you know, signal to me that much that frequent like, you know, it just doesn't happen, you know? And I know he's been out there for a long time and he's got a ton more wilderness experience as far as in British Columbia than I do. So kind of just have to trust what he says. But, you know, they, we did some side references and tried to find natural occurrences of animals or, you know, tree expansion and stuff. And most of it happens, you know, winter time, more than anything, we couldn't really find a lot of reference to 80 degree weather and trees expanding. So we kind of rolled out some of that and we rolled out some natural animals because they just didn't sound like that. And, um, we kind of just said, well, well dang it,

• 14:25Speaker 06

  maybe, maybe that we actually had an interaction and treed, you know, maybe a juvenile or something because there was a juvenile track up this tree and had that interaction. Um, so in hindsight, I really wish I'd stay there longer and kind of just waited and tried to document and do a lot more with it. But, uh, we kind of, I don't know, we kind of sabotaged ourselves a little bit just being skeptical of, of what it could be and what it is. Um, but it was a really interesting experience, but if I could go back, I would definitely change, uh, what we did and how we kind of interacted at the, at the time. But I've, I've never had

• 15:03Speaker 06

  such a back and forth in between with a tree before, um, especially like responsive to like mouth pops and whistles. And, um, we, we hit a tree with a, a rock a few times to try to make a, a rock knock more than a wood knock. And we would constantly get responses back. So it was really interesting, um, as far as that interaction goes. And we had, um,

• 15:29Speaker 06

  A few more during that, that seven days I was there, we, uh, we had apples taken at our gifting location. We had some other experiences where we, where it sounded like something was ahead of us. And the expeditioner, I was with Dan, he, uh, he kind of later said that he, he, he saw something. He, he told Todd to get in front of him. I was in the back, but, um, I kind of tried to stay in the back and kind of, I'm always looking over my back because I'm always more or less the person that thinks there's more than one. And when you're looking one way, they're actually behind you or to the left of you. So I'm always looking kind of in different directions when, when activities happen.

• 16:14Speaker 06

  But, but yeah, Dan kind of pretty much says that he saw something and he was more or less like, Todd, get in front of me. You're the expert here. I don't know what I'm doing. Um, but it wasn't really my experience. I didn't see it, but he was there. But the, kind of the icing on top of the cake for that expedition, which kind of got me even more into the subject and more into the science and trying to actually capture, not have, more or less not have it just experiences, but actually help with the, the proof of Bigfoot's existence. Um, so I'm kind of, uh, I don't, I don't want to say I'm like fearless, but I'm, I'm less fearful

• 16:55Speaker 06

  than most out in the woods. So, uh, most people that stay there, like they want camp outside, like on the ground or anything. There are like bear, there's black bear, um, grizzly bear, mountain lion, you know, everything that's in the British Columbia area. So there are, you know, deadly things out there, but I'm, I'm not as afraid as the wilderness is, you know, the, I guess the sane people would be. So I was always looking for places just to go camp outside on the ground and not in a tent and be in a sleeping bag and. I found a few places, but you know, in the, in the evening times, it would start to drizzle and rain. I just didn't want to wake up all wet and I don't, I don't feel like they're super active when it's raining.

• 17:40Speaker 06

  So um, I wasn't able to like get where I wanted to go kind of farther away, but I ended up the second to last day that I was there, ended up sleeping outside by the campfire. And it's probably, I don't know, thirty, forty feet from this trailer shell that Todd has most people stay in at the time. And it's really just a shell. I wouldn't even call it a trailer. It doesn't really have power or anything, just to protect you from the elements. Um, but I, I slept outside by the campfire that night, just in a sleeping bag and ended up dozing off here and there about one, one thirty. And the guy, one of the brothers, Dan, he was out there with me for a good while and he was just uh, whittling on a piece of wood and

• 18:23Speaker 06

  he had asked me if I, if he cared if, or sorry, if I cared if he was out there. I said, no, it's fine. Do whatever you want to do. So he was just trying to get his anxiety down from the experiences that he's had out there and he ended up falling asleep in the chair outside and um, and I was on the ground. And I had woken up around three thirty and looked over and he was head back in a chair and I just kind of chuckled saying, well, whether he knows or not, he's falling asleep out here. And I kind of just laid back down and then around four thirty, I I kind of get woken up and he gets up and he puts a log on the fire and says, all right, sorry, good night. Um, what I didn't know later was he had heard something behind him.

• 19:07Speaker 06

  And it woke him up and spooked him. And he was like, I'm not staying out here. And he went into the trailer, but he didn't tell me that. So um, you know, matter of fact, later he told me that. So I was like, oh, thank you for telling me. So it was, it was right after five and I'm not used to kind of mountain west coast time and how the sun goes down at midnight really, and then it comes up like at five. I'm used to more of Texas sunlight. Um, so I wake, I wake up around five and I know it later just because looking at my phone. And I kinda um opened my eyes a little bit and I'm kinda leaning towards the fire.

• 19:48Speaker 06

  And I can just see a little bit of blue in the sky, like a tiny bit, like the sun's trying to come up. And I'm like, I'm thinking in my head, it's like six thirty. Again, I'm from Texas and the sun doesn't usually come up in the summer until six thirty. In my head, I'm thinking, okay, well, I stayed out here, nothing happened. I can kinda sleep a little less anxiety with less anxiety and kinda get a few more hours of sleep. So as I'm thinking that in my head, I roll over on my back and I'm still kind of at a, an angle towards the fire. And as I'm rolling over my back, I put my hands on my chest and I did it kind of in a fast motion. And as I'm doing it, that's exactly what I'm thinking, nothing's gonna happen, I can go to sleep.

• 20:32Speaker 06

  And then you just hear two feet behind me jump backwards. Like I startled, something was behind me watching me from the back. And it jumps backwards and lands on the ground, right? And then I hear two feet land. And I'm thinking, uh, what do I do here? Like this, um, this is what I came for, but um, you know, whatever this is beside me is got the full advantage. I'm on the ground at an angle. It's right, like literally I could, I could feel its presence and I heard it. It was like a soft jump back, like it wasn't like a boom, boom or anything, right? Um, so I'm just thinking, okay, what do I do?

• 21:12Speaker 06

  Cause if I open my eyes fully, I still have to tilt my head that direction to really look in that direction. Just because of the angle of the ground. So I, I just decided to keep my, my left eye that's closest to the individual closed. And my right eye kinda barely cocked open, kinda looking at some of the blue in the sky. And I'm trying to calm my heartbeat down and I'm just thinking through it, saying, okay, well, I'm just gonna make sure I didn't hear something. I'm not just halfway awake or asleep. So I just let my heart rate slow down a little bit. And then about, I'd say about a minute and a half later, you just hear, you hear two feet bipedal walking next to my head. And I'm just like, heart starts beating on my chest again.

• 21:57Speaker 06

  I'm like, okay, this is it. I don't, I don't know what to do here. Like if I look, if I look at this thing in the eyes, is it gonna freak out and just? Like totally, I don't know. I'm thinking in my head, it would just like freak out and yell at me or kick me or or do something to that manner. Right? Because I'm thinking it thinks I'm just asleep. Um, so I'm just going through scenarios in my head at this point, like, okay. I need the real bill of the courage to look and I I'm trying to do that. And I can hear it walking around my head still and it's just slowly moving around me and I'm just like, okay, I I've got to.

• 22:38Speaker 06

  I've got to just calm down and just I've got to look. So I've got to do this without startling, you know. Um, so I ended up turning real slowly towards the fire and then. And so I didn't startle whatever was by me and then I cocked my I did that and then I lifted my head over my shoulder and looked behind me and.

• 22:58Speaker 06

  It it was gone, right? So I didn't capture it in time to actually get a good look at it. I I felt its presence. I heard its footsteps right beside my head. I heard it walking beside me. But um, it was an intense interaction and I kind of left. That expedition with that in my mind all the time, like it's something that until you go through it, you don't really know. How to process it and I know uh, most people listen to this to be like, well, I would have just looked and stood up and, you know. Got face to face with whatever, right? But it's different when you're alone in the forest and everyone's asleep forty feet away from you and.

• 23:37Speaker 06

  You know, I I'll just I'll just preface it in that manner. It's it's more intense and you kind of just have to go through it to really feel that. Level of I I I call it fear, um, even though I'm not super fearful fearful and I've done. Other stuff since then that are it's very similar, but you know, you kind of have to get through that part to have more. Interaction in my opinion, so it was a really um. Kind of life changing experience for me, um, even though I didn't have that face to face visual, it was. Um, something that brought me to the next level of, okay, they're definitely here. I've seen the footprints. I've seen the tree breaks.

• 24:19Speaker 06

  I've heard the vocalizations. I've heard the knocks. I've seen them take the Apple offerings. Um, so in my view, there is no way that that area is is not have some kind of high frequency habituation, whatever you want to call it, of Sasquatch Bigfoot. So I was, I was talking to Todd after that and I was like, you know, you really should get some cameras out here just in base camp. Um, I mean, they're coming into base camp. They're shaking the trailer. They're, they're actually lifting the trailer off its, its blocks and moving it some nights while they're in it.

• 24:59Speaker 06

  So I'm like, you really should just get some cameras out here and see what we can get. I know people are negative when it says, comes to cameras, but to me, it's not really a proven fact, which is just hearsay, like, oh, they hate cameras. But I mean, until someone can talk to a Bigfoot and they say, yeah, I hate cameras. I'm just gonna keep an open mind about it. So Todd was kind of all for it. He's like, yeah, do whatever you want to do. Like, he was more or less like, if you want to get some cameras out here, let's get some cameras out here. So I told him I'd think through it, figure out the best way to do it. And then I, uh, I kind of started that whole Bigfoot livestream project from that moment.

• 25:40Speaker 06

  But I can, I can kind of get into the details of that here in this minute and I can just tell you, um, maybe one more story, or I'll, I'll tell you two more stories if that works. So the, the next, um, say the next experience I had out there that was, this was recent. This was back in June of this year. So I did end up going back again a few times. Um, and I did have some experience and interaction while I was out there. But the, the one back in June was more. Meaningful, I guess you could put it that way. So I went back in June and I was putting some more

• 26:20Speaker 06

  architecture out there and doing some stuff with solar and batteries and DC and off grid. And I had gotten all that set up. I'd gone out there with Todd's girlfriend, Ashley, and another person from Scotland that was there to have an experience. Real nice guy. So that that night that we got out there, we were pretty tired, it was about seven. And we, we decided, I mean, I decided that I wasn't gonna try to do any work at that point. I'm just trying to enjoy the night. And we kind of sat around, got firewood, made dinner,

• 26:59Speaker 06

  sat around the fire. And then we went out to the the gifting area and put three apples out, one for each of us. And we put them relatively high toward, you know, a deer or, you know, any kind of grazing animal couldn't just come up and get it, right? We're pretty cognizant of that. And you can really tell when it's a squirrel or a bird or something that's been pecking at an apple, right? So we we put our apples out and put some, I guess you want to call it thought behind it and put energy around it, you know, like, kind of a gift to them. And kind of sat there for a bit, went back to the campsite and we were talking. And and it was about nine,

• 27:43Speaker 06

  nine thirty, yeah, about nine thirty PM. You just hear, you know, a whoop, and then another direction, another whoop, and then another direction, another whoop. So I tried to make the sounds, but I just butcher it. But it's definitely like a whoop, if anyone's ever heard one. And they were, again, they were three different directions. And we kind of took that as, hey, thanks for the apples, three whoops, three apples, right? So as far as interactions that night, that's all we had. But when we went back, they had taken the apples that morning. We got up fairly early and checked it. And it was probably only nine hours from when we

• 28:27Speaker 06

  put them out. And they were already taken. There was no, you know, core. Scanner, whatever, apple residue on the ground and we kind of took those whoops as that. Um, and if I had actually gotten my system up and running and not been dead tired, I would have at least captured the audio there. And I was only there for about three days because I was just kind of there to enjoy, but mostly to do work and set up architecture and infrastructure for the like all the cameras and stuff. So, um, the next day I was just working on that and then, um, I was kind of trying to be human bait because I really wanted to be human bait ever

• 29:09Speaker 06

  since I was out there by the campfire. So I set up like the cameras in a sense where I was kind of in an open field ish and the guy I was with, his name is Ross, he's a Scotsman. He's a bold guy. So he wanted to sleep out there with me. So I said, okay, well, more the merrier. So I set the camera settings to no IR and it was a, it was a moonlit night. So I set the, the iris and the shutter speed and everything else on that. These are fairly good cameras. So I can fine tune settings to moonlight. So I don't have to have IR on. Um, so I figured all that out and I kind of just slept out there and it was again, the moon was blinding and we,

• 29:54Speaker 06

  it was pretty cold that night. And I think the only thing we got was like a mouth pop that in that evening. Um, when we were, when I, me and Ross were sleeping outside and it got to like 30 degrees and we were just in a sleeping bag and I woke up with ice on me about 6:30. And, uh, if anyone really wants to see all this, I can give you all the footage, but, um, I, I, I got up and had to warm my body because I was cold. So I, I took a shotgun with me and my phone and, and I told, I told Ross that I was going to go for a walk. So I ended up walking about half a mile away down a trail and just sitting in a field where we had found a really big track in

• 30:38Speaker 06

  the tree line there. And I had my back to the wood line and I was just sitting there with intent, you know, like, hey, I'm alone. Come out, I'm ready to have an interaction, right? Just kind of putting in a ten out. Um, I think intent does work um to a sense. I don't know everything about mind speaker woo or whatever you want to call it. But I think intent does bring them in and here at curiosity does. So I figured with my back to the tree line and kind of a field in front of me, maybe that would give them more of an opportunity to just come up behind me and and do something, right? So I was giving them the edge and I'm sitting there for about 10 minutes. Eyes kind of closed, it's kind of Indian on the ground and

• 31:24Speaker 06

  I just hear these huge stomps. Twenty, twenty to twenty five, okay, so twenty to thirty feet behind me. And um, I felt the ground shake. It was boom, boom. And I opened my eyes and I didn't know what to do. So I kind of slowly stood up and I remembered I had my shotgun and I was like, well, I don't want to. And I was a lot more calm than the last time. So I didn't really want to grab the shotgun. Um, so I just kind of put it by my side um on the ground and stood up. And I was looking in the tree line and all I can see in the tree line is something behind this tree. And it's, it's actually gray in color.

• 32:08Speaker 06

  And I couldn't get a good reference. Um, the sun was just coming. I mean, it was, it was up since, you know, five ish, five thirty, but it wasn't above the mountain line and the trees yet. So in the actual forest, it's still pretty dark in there. And I'm looking and I just see this gray figure looking at me. And again, it's thirty feet away behind a decent sized tree. And then you just see what I think is an arm and it hits the tree. And then it yells at me and it goes, oh, and I don't know how to take that. Does that mean, hey, I'm, I'm here or, um, you know, I, I really don't want to take it. So I'm just standing there like,

• 32:52Speaker 06

  okay, well, I don't know what to do with this. And, uh, I don't know if some people would run or, or what, but I'm just standing there and it's, it's sitting there and then you just kinda, it kinda slowly disappears and goes behind the tree. And I don't hear it. It just goes away, right? So at, at that point, when the activity kinda slowed down, you know, hindsight's 2020, I pull out my phone and just start scanning the tree line, right? I wasn't wearing a body cam. Um, I just filmed myself all night and I really wasn't, um, I didn't really wanna dig in the trailer and get all that equipment out and wake everybody up. So I was just screening, scanning the tree line and I'm not seeing much. And I noticed there's a tree break,

• 33:33Speaker 06

  literally right where this individual was, like it's an old tree break. It's not new. But it is interesting that it was standing right next to this clear tree break behind this tree. So I go in there and I film that area of the forest for a good 10 minutes and listen. And I hear a few, a few knocks, kind of from the north side. And, uh, you know, I'm, I'm looking around. I can't, I can't really see much. Um, I look for tracks on the ground and, you know, I'm skeptical, right? I, I don't, I really don't know what it was other than it was this gray tall figure. Um, and I go back and I sit back into the kind of the open clearing and I put my back back to the woods and I'm just sitting there

• 34:19Speaker 06

  again with, with thought and process and just sitting there and I'm alone. And I just hear two big bangs to my kinda south, southwest area of me. And it, it's, they're large tree knocks. Like you can tell when, uh, uh, when you hear these and, um, I've heard them a handful of times now and it was two large tree knocks. So. It was a different direction altogether. So I, I just waited and that was pretty much the only thing that happened other than it sounded like some rustling when I was walking back in the forest, but that could have just been an animal. Uh, but it was, you know, it was the next, the next level for me, right? I have somewhat of a visual. I have

• 35:01Speaker 06

  individual yelling at me. I have basically the ground feels like it's shaking beneath me. I didn't have like an infrasound or anything like that, but I definitely had an interaction with an individual, I think an older individual because of the grayness to it, but and I just walked back to camp and everyone was still asleep and I, you know, I tell Todd and, and uh, kinda the other people that are with me and they were like, oh, that's awesome. You know, they weren't there. They can't really say much about it, right? But I know it happened and I know it was real for me. So um, it just further proves that these uh, whatever, uh, people, whatever you wanna

• 35:45Speaker 06

  call them, they are out there. Um, so that, that's kind of the second kind of experience I've had, like a one-on-one interaction. And then since then I've, I've found a, a site in Pennsylvania. Um, that's very highly active and I finally got, um, and I'm fast forwarding a little bit, but I've been trying to get them on board with kind of my project for like probably eight months. Um, they're pretty apprehensive about their privacy and you know, they don't want people out there and um, they already have like a group of researchers that they work with and I'm just trying to add another piece to the pie.

• 36:29Speaker 06

  So I, there's another, like I said, it's a, it's in Pennsylvania. It's kind of central Pennsylvania and it's on the edge of the Allegheny Forest. So they have a ridiculous amount of activity, energy out there and it's, it's been happening for eight or 10 years. And as far as my own experience out there, um, when I went out there to set up the equipment and run everything and set up the camera systems, they actually put handprints on

• 37:00Speaker 06

  The the Sprinter van that the guy I was with. Um, so they are frequently putting handprints on their windows there. And there's like white sieblum that they leave and it the handprints are very interesting. The the shape of them on the thumb and everything. And the the one of the researchers there actually pulls the prints um very scientifically. Um, as a, you know, a CSI guy would if he's very thoughtful and does all of that. And he's very good at it. His name is, again, I seem to work with a lot of people named Todd, but his name is New York Todd. That's what I call him. Um, and he's been doing research in that location, I think, four or five years.

• 37:42Speaker 06

  Um, but yeah, we got a handprint on a car and we actually saw an orb that night. So they, like I said, they have a lot of energy, weird activity. I don't know what you want to call it, but I've never had somewhere where they have so much constant like house slaps and like handprints on their house and vocalizations. And so many, so many people there that have gone there to do research have had visual sightings. The property owners, they get visual sightings. I don't know. Um, they seem to be more attracted to the female property owner.

• 38:21Speaker 06

  I I know that makes sense to uh to most of the stories you hear, but she seems to be the uh kind of the target for a lot of the interactions. Um, but she has seen them numerous, numerous times. But I have a a system out there and I've been capturing lately. The the activities really been ramping up and I've been capturing a lot of really good vocalizations uh with the audio equipment we have out there.

• 38:50Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I know you had sent me some of the audio from that property. Uh, this one is labeled uh whoops. Let's take a listen.

• 39:26Wes Germer?

  I know it kind of crackled a little bit. It's from whoever did your audio trying to remove the background noise. It's interesting.

• 39:36Speaker 06

  And there are three different instances. The first one has five different sound offs. The next one has three and the other one has two or three. So if it sounds like it's all in the same timeframe, it's really just cutting and splicing three different instances from three different events. And if you look at the waveform and the audio, the audio, it looks like the same individual because the waveform looks identical on all three as far as the frequency and the range, the actual shape of the form. So it's telling me that's

• 40:16Speaker 06

  one individual and it sounds more like, and I know that people can't really say this because they don't really know, but it sounds more like a juvenile or maybe a female to me. It's not like huge and dominating. So that's all I can say about it. It's more of a, not science, but gut, guttural sound to it. Our guttural instinct that it's more of a female or juvenile from my standpoint. But yeah, I'm capturing a lot of activity out of radium that's starting to ramp up and a lot of activity out of Pennsylvania. And I'm actually looking for

• 40:58Speaker 06

  more people and more sites to work with. And I can kind of dive into the, the project itself.

• 41:04Wes Germer?

  And Yeah, before you go into that, this property out there in Pennsylvania, I know you had mentioned the homeowner had seen it, seen the creatures on many different occasions. Have you seen them out there?

• 41:18Speaker 06

  I've only been there on setup. We got a decent, I've gotten, let me think.

• 41:27Speaker 06

  Two decent thermals of them. I actually, the, the system I set up actually has 24/7 thermal going, which I don't think anyone's doing. Cause I wanted optical, I wanted thermal, I wanted audio. Um, so I figured out a way to do it. Um, so I haven't seen it. Uh, most researchers out there have. The other guy in New York, Todd, he recently had a sighting when he woke up there, staying there and, and gave him a bit of anxiety. Um, but yeah, I, I haven't personally, but I've, I'm going back out there probably in the next two weeks because I'm actually trying to set up even more infrastructure out there. Um, because they're very good at eluding.

• 42:10Speaker 06

  So we're trying to get like a bird's eye, 20, 30 feet up in the air, pointing down around the property now of a, of the thermal camera.

• 42:19Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I would like to know how that goes with the whole, uh, bird's eye view and, um, it gets frustrating though. I remember being in the mindset that you're in and I had a million different ideas and one day I was kind of like, man, how much do I get a bend over backwards to just get a picture of these things? It's so frustrating. And then you hear about them walk in front of cars and in the middle of the road, which is something only dumb animals do, like deer or, um, and with these things, it's so hard to, I mean, it sounds like a great area out there in Pennsylvania. I'd love to hear more about it. Uh, kind of going back to the creature that you saw in Canada, uh, the gray creature.

• 43:04Wes Germer?

  Would you describe it? And how far away from you was it?

• 43:09Speaker 06

  So I walked to that tree where it was and I mean, I didn't pull out a tape measure, but I'd say it's about 30 feet away from where I was sitting on the ground. It wasn't super far. Um, it was dark. And I, like I said, I didn't, all I could see was like gray, like it was behind this tree. I, I could make out gray hair and it looked like when it hit the tree, I could make out the arm. And it was kind of like a hard slap. So it was really quick. Um, and it was almost like, what did I just see? So I, I honestly didn't get like a great look at it. Cause again, it was morning time in the darkness in the tree line, 30 feet

• 43:53Speaker 06

  away. In hindsight, I wish I had my body cam on, but again, I, I was filming all night and I just didn't want to wake up people and get stuff out. But yeah, I, I can't really tell you more than that. Um, I can tell you as far as like height, uh, it's hard to guesstimate. I, I could really only see where, what I felt like the arm was hitting the tree and it was probably about six, six feet in the air. And whatever it was, was taller than that. Um, I, I mean, that's really all I can give you. It was more of a ground shaking yell more than anything in that experience.

• 44:32Wes Germer?

  Yeah, no, I appreciate it. And that's all I was looking for is, you know, what was it that you saw? And, uh, that's all I'm ever looking for. It's definitely interesting. I know that, um, I've talked to people who've gone up with, uh, Todd standing and there's definitely a lot of activity in that area where he takes people. For the audience, tell me about the Bigfoot livestream project. What is it? I, I know it's an app and it's subscription based, but tell me about this app that you created.

• 45:04Speaker 06

  So there's a lot to it. Um, I'll try to make it high level, but it's, it's really, I really wanted to bring, why I made it was I wanted to bring this experience to people and bring like a community and a collaboration together of the data and sightings and kind of build, build that off and bring it to pretty much people that are interested in Bigfoot and that can't go out into the deep woods or don't have the finances or, um, skeptics. But there's not a lot of. Data out there. I mean, there's lots of stories and there's lots of podcasts.

• 45:47Speaker 06

  But it's not like you can go out and look at any kind of data points. Um, so I really wanted, and I know the BFRO has some stuff out there. But it's, there's a lot of, again, there's a lot of research teams that keep that stuff close to the chest. Um, and they don't really give everything they have to everyone. So my idea is just to give it to everyone. So I want these live streams to people to be able to go to these high frequency areas and watch them. I built a on-demand um video section where it actually chunks every two hours.

• 46:29Speaker 06

  So you could literally um watch every stream for the last two weeks in two hour chunks at any time. So if you really wanted to watch it at from three to five AM or skim through it or whatever you want to do, like that's available, like you don't have to watch it live. So I literally built a streaming architecture um and which was difficult, I can say, um, that people can collaborate on and you can report sightings. So it has three different databases allocated to it. So um for sightings, reportings, and then I have my own database to where um so

• 47:14Speaker 06

  I'm, I'm slowly ramping this up and doing enhancements. Um, but I'm, I'm one person and I have a lot of plates in the air. So um I'm building, or I built the pipeline for me that captures all movement, all audio, all heat signatures, um, certain frequencies, certain amplitudes. And it pumps all that to a database and then it does timestamping and that cross referencing. Uh, is there a moon? Uh, and a lot of other different fields in there. So I'm trying to build a, a Bigfoot model, if you want to call it.

• 47:54Speaker 06

  Um. So I'm just using machine learning and AI and data science to build this model. And once I get enough data and enough, um, really enough equipment out there to be more subjective. Um, I'm going to release all that model to everyone and then eventually it'll be every it's. Um, you can kind of think of it as a ring camera in a sense, but a lot more fine tuned to not, not for when the trees move or when the, the lights come on or when you see a squirrel. It's more in tune to Bigfoot analytics and, um, natural occurrences.

• 48:33Speaker 06

  So it'll eventually I'll have, um, I have a kind of a graphical representation of an example of what I'm playing with in the background in the app itself. So time charting with analytics and graphs for frequency amplitude movement. Um, I'm adding heat signatures into it, um, and some other stuff. But eventually when people wake up the next day, they can look at all the, the movement and the event driven things that we've found. Um, but you know, it's not perfect. If anyone's ever used a, uh, a camera system, the new age ones, um, like a ring camera, it will say something's there when it's not, or it'll be a tree that's blowing in the wind.

• 49:19Speaker 06

  So it's really, um, that's why I really need people to actually look at the footage as well. Because I've found heat signatures on there that don't register because they're only like half a second and they're through a tree. And I've found them just by hard work and staying up two hours every night, looking at video events on my own and going through it. So it's really, if we have a whole community of people watching the live streams, looking at the, the video on demand and then doing the, hitting the report button and saying things like we can capture the full spectrum of events, right? And then publish those databases, look for patterns, look for.

• 50:02Speaker 06

  Um anomalies look for, you know, does it usually happen in the middle of the month? Does it usually happen on a full moon? Does it happen when it's right before a storm? I mean, none of that data is out there like so we we have to build a model for it. Um, and eventually the model will be in on the front end on a on an edge computer. To where it's looking for everything in that model. Using analytic tools and Python and um, machine learning tools and PyTorch and stuff like that and vision driven software. So it's really highly technical on the back end.

• 50:43Speaker 06

  Like I said, it's in like iteration or you can call it two right now and I'm working towards three and four. But um, but I'm really trying to get everyone on board with the project and I really want to collaborate with as many people as possible and I want uh some more high frequency areas and I want to work with other researchers. So I'm open to people helping, I'm hoping to other researchers reaching out to me and and doing all that. And um, I figured out the architecture to where like the one in radium is there is no power, there's no, there's no cell service. Everything works off of Starlink out there, so.

• 51:24Speaker 06

  I had to build that system to work off grid and and get the right wattage and work off of DC current, no AC current. And build the architecture to where it can be up. Um, you know, nothing's ever a hundred percent reliable. If it storms for three days and it works off of solar energy. There's only so much energy in the battery bank, so it might go down for a few hours here and there. But um, for the most part, it's twenty four seven on the off grid. Um, front, so really if people have off grid locations. I can plonk this system out in the middle of nowhere and do recordings and it will go to my cloud services and everyone can view it, right?

• 52:06Speaker 06

  So it's really a whole, whole architecture of things that I had to think through and build within the last year and a half.

• 52:13Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I love the idea. I actually had this idea about 10 years ago when I was having my app built. And this is the stuff that I really wanted to have in the app. I didn't have the skill set to build it on my own. And it's very expensive. And I'm sure if I had commercials in my show, I would have more access to more funds to build stuff like this because I like to put more into the show than I actually take out. But I love the idea. And I know it's subscription based, I would give a little bit away to someone who's just downloading it as opposed to downloading it. And it's like, well, you got to pay for it if you want to actually see what's in the app.

• 52:54Wes Germer?

  And I'm going to pay for it because I want to see what's in the app. But I love the idea. I really do. I wanted to ask you, I mean, with all this data, what is it you're trying to accomplish? Are you trying to understand their behavior more? Or you, what are you going to do with all this data?

• 53:12Speaker 06

  I mean, I really just want to share it with everyone. Other than that, data collection, proof, science, I mean, if we have video, we have audio, and we have data points. You know, that gives a reference to real research, in my opinion. So I don't know what people think real research is anymore. Like, I don't know what it would be. I think if enough people look at the data, and actually look at it and look at the evidence, you know, they can come to their own conclusions. But I mean, if I can get a real scientific study out of it, I mean, that would be awesome. I really don't know a lot of that college or foundations or

• 53:54Speaker 06

  research grants and stuff like that. I don't fully know how all that works. But I'd be open to trying to go in that direction. But it's really about proving the existence of these beings and that they're real. So that's what I'm trying to do is really just build that platform for everyone to utilize and use and scrutinize. And you say, this isn't real, you have the full footage for the whole day, you can go through the entire footage, you know, and say it's a guy in a suit. Let's, let's go through the entire day and see if it is right. Like, you know, you need, you need that amount of data to prove things.

• 54:35Wes Germer?

  Yeah. And if you want to reach out to Logan, you can reach him at contact at bigfootlivestream.org. I love the idea, Logan, and I'm rooting for you. You know, I ask everyone on the show, what do you think Sasquatch is? What's your take?

• 54:52Speaker 06

  I just make it short and sweet. I just think they are some type of people, prominent, whatever you want to call them, and that they've been here for a long time. I don't, I don't know what abilities they have. I can't say they're extraordinary. I can say they're elusive, but I mean, that's my perspective. I know, looking at all the data and all the, my own personal experiences and all the, all the people doing the research and all the, the footprints and the tracks and vocalizations that this is, this is the real deal. So any, anyone that kind of looks at it and says, yeah, well, there's no body.

• 55:37Speaker 06

  And this is just a, just a, you know, a big hot mess of nothing. You know, you really have to look at everything before you come to that conclusion. And that's kind of what I was coming at it, that open-minded approach of, well, let's, let's look at all the data and let's, let's build, let's build all the evidence, right? And I know a lot of people are trying to do that. I'm just coming at it from a different angle.

• 56:02Wes Germer?

  Not that I disagree with you, but what makes you think that they're people?

• 56:07Speaker 06

  Um, I feel, I feel like they have a, a connection to nature and that they are just more in tune with nature and that, you know, they're upright, they're bipedal and they, they're obviously very intelligent. So.

• 56:28Speaker 06

  I'm not an archaeologist or anthropologist. I know a lot of people in that field. I can't go into the whole Jeff Meldrum and those guys are really smart at those aspects of it. But I feel like it's just an offset of us in a sense, or some diversion off the, you know, off our ancestry. But, you know, I could be wrong. There's a lot of, there's a lot of open, openness to that. So until we kind of prove they are real, and then we can kind of go down the next rabbit hole and say, okay, they're real for sure. Now, where'd they come from? What are they? And what, what are their abilities that they have that we don't like?

• 57:14Speaker 06

  So you kind of have to start at point one and go to the next point. Yeah, that's just, uh, just my opinion, right?

• 57:22Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I appreciate your feedback. And you could make an argument that they are people. You can make an argument that they're animal. That's what's so fascinating about this subject. You know, Logan, with all the thought that you put into this, and I, and again, I love the idea. And I really am rooting for you. I want you to be successful. Why do you think that they're so hard to capture like on video? I mean, you know, if you ask me, would you rather track a cougar or a man? I'll take a man all day long. A man's not hard to track in the woods. Why do you think that they're so hard to catch up with?

• 58:02Speaker 06

  Well, there is another video that we do have. I did, I did do some soft pushes on it.

• 58:13Speaker 06

  But we did capture another video of what I think is a juvenile Bigfoot. It's not as good as Todd's footage, like the faces. If, if, you know, I think it's real. Other people don't. So to each their own. But it is definitely footage of a juvenile, and I don't know much people getting that. So I think people are capturing it and not knowing it because we actually found that footage.

• 58:43Speaker 06

  After scrubbing old footage, so we didn't even know they were in front of us until we scrubbed the old footage and looked and noticed movement in the foreground or the background. And then we zoom in and you know, there's this individual completely camouflaged and it moves from center screen to left as we're, as we're panning the camera. And it is, in my opinion, it's amazing because I know it's not a person because I was actually out there. And it actually happened to coincide with a lot of other events that precluded to that.

• 59:22Speaker 06

  And I, I didn't get into that story, but I can, but we, we basically had an experience to where we had a howl and then we had five loops all around us and we go out into the forest and then Todd has, I think he has a video on his channel of like a blob squatch that he filmed in front of them. But at the same time, we were also filming, and this is only, I don't know, 70 yards away from the thermal camera we have out there right now. And we actually captured the other individual to the left of the one that Todd captured and it's, I'll, I'll send it to you, you can, you can post it out there too. And I've tried to, I have the raw footage and I have the, the zoomed in version and

• 1:00:06Speaker 06

  I've tried to put skeletal movement with some scripting on top of it. But it's, it's behind these trees, so it's hard to get a good frame of reference for the skeletal software, but it's, it's definitely hairy legs moving, you can see torso, see the top of the head, and then there's foliage in front of it. And it's, it's definitely 100% genuine and real. So my opinion is they're out there, but they're just very, very good at what they do and they're very much in tune with nature and can really know when to move and when not.

• 1:00:45Wes Germer?

  Yeah, if you'll send me the video, I'll post it up on Sasquatch Chronicles dot com underneath this episode. And if you want to check out Logan's app, the Bigfoot Livestream Project on your phone, go to your app store, look up Bigfoot Livestream Project and you can get the app and check out what he's doing. Logan, I wish you the best, brother, and thank you so much for taking the time to come on.

• 1:01:13Speaker 06

  Yeah, it was great. Great talking to you, Wes.

• 1:01:16Wes Germer?

  And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is [email protected]. And if you get a chance, check out Sasquatch Chronicles dot com. You can become a member and get additional shows. I'll be back for the members tomorrow night. And for everyone else, until next time.

• 1:02:37Speaker 06

  The lights on Doing something a quieter With the lights on This is my home Close it down Memories of you dear Untie your eyes Close at the sky I'll make sure right Memories of you dear

• 1:03:25Speaker 06

  With the lights on This is my home Close it down Memories of you dear Untie your eyes Close at the sky I'll make sure right Memories of you dear

• 1:04:30Speaker 06

  Say that you're still here my dear And you're smiling with feeling 'Cause I found the key to my door

• 1:04:41Speaker 06

  So I hold you down my dear And I'll make you stay my dear And we'll slip away my dear

• 1:04:51Speaker 06

  Say that you're still here my dear And you're smiling with feeling 'Cause I found the key to my door