Trump’s Surprising Ukraine Flip, Media Censorship, and the Israel-Palestine Debate with Tom Bilyeu

Welcome to Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu! In this episode, Tom and co-host Drew dive straight into today's most pressing global issues and the ways they're shaping our world—from the unexpected twists in the Russia-Ukraine conflict and Trump's controversial stance, to the role of America and Europe in a rapidly changing global landscape. Tom offers his signature, no-nonsense analysis on what Trump's perspective could mean for the future of the war in Ukraine, why prolonged conflict is so dangerous, and how narrative control—in both politics and media—continues to polarize societies. The conversation doesn't stop at geopolitics; the hosts candidly explore recent controversies from Jimmy Kimmel’s monologue and the evolving debate over free speech, censorship, and how platforms like YouTube shape public discourse. Plus, they unpack the latest on medical misinformation, health advice trends, the role of the UN and NATO, and the ever-volatile situation in Israel and Palestine. Throughout, Tom and Drew aren’t shy about challenging assumptions on both sides—whether it's the cultural dynamics in Russia, the ethics of protest, or the necessity of difficult conversations in a time where emotions and misinformation can run high. So if you're ready for an honest, nuanced, and high-energy breakdown of the headlines you can’t ignore—and maybe a little wisdom about how we all react to authority—this episode is for you. Buckle up, and let’s get legendary! 00:00 Intro 04:00 War, Borders, and Changing Times 06:56 Putin's Escalation and Global Tensions 14:07 Unyielding Ambition for Legacy 17:15 Let Business Model Run Naturally 25:03 Hyper Populism and Argument Strategy 27:37 YouTube Admits Past Content Censorship 32:36 Freedom vs. Dangerous Speech Debate 42:47 "Mindful Consumption: Importance Explained" 43:54 "Caution: Synthetic Compounds' Impact" 49:51 Vision for Global Cooperation 58:08 Global Push for Palestinian Recognition 01:03:36 Addressing Complexities in Israeli-Palestinian Conflict 01:10:33 Safety Concerns at Protest 01:12:02 Victim Blaming and Personal Freedom 01:16:17 Exclusive Live Attendance Bonus Free AI Masterclass: Build a 5-member AI team with ChatGPT so you can start your business in 3 days. Register here: https://tombilyeu.com/leverage-ai-oct-2 SleepMe: Visit https://sleep.me/impact to get your Chilipad and save 20% with code IMPACT. Try it risk-free with their 30-night sleep trial and free shipping. Vital Proteins: Get 20% off by going to https://www.vitalproteins.com and entering promo code IMPACT at check out Hims: Start your free online visit today at https://hims.com/IMPACT. Linkedin: Post your job free at https://linkedin.com/impacttheory Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://shopify.com/impact Tailor Brands: 35% off https://tailorbrands.com/podcast35 Found Banking: Try Found for FREE at https://found.com/impact What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here: If you want my help... STARTING a business:join me here at ZERO TO FOUNDER https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show: https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show SCALING a business:see if you qualify here. https://tombilyeu.com/call: https://tombilyeu.com/call Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox:sign up here. https://tombilyeu.com/: https://tombilyeu.com/ ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast,Tom Bilyeu’s Mindset Playbook https://open.spotify.com/show/47VE90Cittmo6TGGFqg2xf —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok:https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter:https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices https://megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 1:30Tom Bilyeu?

  The UN attempts to troll Trump, but it backfires. All right, all that and more on today's Tom Bilyeu Show Live. Welcome.

• 1:37Speaker 01

  All right, let's jump right into it, guys. I really want to start with this Russia-Ukraine thing because I'm going to be honest. I did not see this coming. Trump's doing a hundred percent 180, like completely flip flopping on his position. Let's take it straight from his mouth or his tweets. "After getting to know and fully understand the Ukraine-Russian military and economic situation, and after seeing the economic trouble it is causing Russia, I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and win all of Ukraine back in its original form. With time, patience, and the financial support of Europe, and in particular NATO, the original borders from where this war started is very much an option. Why not? Russia has been fighting aimlessly for three and a half years,

• 2:21Speaker 01

  a war that should have taken a real military power less than a week to win. This is not distinguishing Russia." In fact, it is very much making them look like a paper tiger. When the people living in Moscow and all of the great cities, towns and districts all throughout Russia, find out what is going on with this war, the fact that it's almost impossible for them to get gasoline through the long lines that are being formed, and all of the other things that are taking place in this, in their war economy, where most of their money is being spent on fighting Ukraine, which has great spirit and only getting better, Ukraine will be able to take back their country in its original form, and who knows, maybe even go further than that. There was not a period in those last four lines. I just want to let everybody know that.

• 2:59Tom Bilyeu?

  Dude, these things can be hard. This is like interpretation. We need a Rose out of Stone.

• 3:03Speaker 01

  I was like, wait, that's the most run on, run on. Putin and Russia are in big economic trouble and this is the time for Ukraine to act. In any event, I wish both countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO, for NATO, to do what they want with them. Good luck to all. Donald J. Trump, President of the United States. The good luck to y'all is like when your parents go to sleep and they let you like stay up after the sleepover. He's like, you guys need anything? Alright, well, I'm gonna go to bed. Good night, and y'all figure it out. Don't blow up my house. I feel like that's kind of how Trump is insinuating this. What's your first read when you heard this tweet?

• 3:33Tom Bilyeu?

  So, I actually think that he's right. I just don't know that this is, um, that this is a good sign. So, this one really is, you've got a prolonged war coming your way. You're already into year three. This is not going anywhere. Putin is making a stand. Um, I think that Trump's take that, any, if America had gone into a country the size of Ukraine, we would have, if we had the will, we would have been able to just absolutely run over them. So, did Putin just want to try to preserve Ukraine? And he's like, listen, these are effectively Russian people. We don't want to go in and steamroll them. We could have, but we're not going to.

• 4:15Tom Bilyeu?

  Or is he really not prepared to fight a overwhelming battle? Where he, he just goes in blitzkrieg, takes them over, shock and awe, and gets them folded back in within, you know, three days? If he isn't prepared to pull that off, then Trump is right. Europe can mount an offensive, work with Ukraine, push them back. Don't know what the right calculus is on that. No matter what the calculus is on that, that's just gonna mean more people dying. But Trump is right that when you're at war, the only thing that people are going to respect is a show of force. And it's been really weird. So I lived the vast majority of my life in the period where I was sort of coming out of

• 5:00Tom Bilyeu?

  the Vietnam era, but for the most part, like my life was the period where things were peaceful for people in the Western world. And it wasn't until nine 11 that that really began to change. But now seeing us go back to an old way of like, oh, borders are not necessarily these sacred things that there are border disputes and we're as nations, we're going to push in and do military intervention to try to reunify or whatever the case may be in the given border dispute. But that is ugly and we have seen historically how many people die when you start getting into this.

• 5:40Tom Bilyeu?

  And so this is one of those things that I really hoped would fizzle out, that we would get to some sort of negotiated settlement. Now that we're talking about involving Europe,

• 5:52Tom Bilyeu?

  this is how you end up with a conflict that just continues to grow. And I don't want to say that I see any indication that this becomes a world war, but it's when you can't get these kind of smoldering fires out. They do continue to present a clear and present danger. So I am concerned.

• 6:10Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, technically we involved Europe in the middle of this year when Trump started taking a step back and then that's when all the other PMs, prime ministers got together. And then they started like aiding, but I don't think we're getting to the point of boots on the ground. Do you think that this is just going to be kind of the perpetual war? Cause I remember you said Russia is known for its cannon fodder kind of resilience where they will just line up body after body to kind of just outpace you maybe?

• 6:35Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, that's true. However, I think people need to understand that warfare is fundamentally changed in the last, I don't know, 20 years. And it is, it's gonna be a proxy war. And so. Whether we get to boots on the ground or not, I think is pretty irrelevant. If the US, if you're like, it will go something like this. Europe buys a bunch of weapons from the US, then they send that to Ukraine. The Ukraine then becomes aggressive into Russia. They start trying to push back. And the words will be, we're just going to take back the areas that are already ours. But the way that you're going to do that, you get into the fight and you suddenly realize, oh, your eyes are vulnerable. So I'm going to poke your eyes, your nuts are vulnerable, so I'm going to try to kneel in the nuts.

• 7:18Tom Bilyeu?

  And so there at some point, if they don't settle this down, they will start using those weapons to push into Russia as a way to say, hey, back off. We didn't want to have to strike Moscow or wherever they go after, but you're forcing our hand. And so that's how these kinds of things ratchet up. So again, boots on the ground is not my fear. I don't think there's political will for that in Europe. I don't think there's political will for that in the US. But these are all games of narrative manipulation. And we need to recognize the way that this kind of thing could play out. I'm not saying this is how it's going to play out. I'm saying this is the kind of thing that makes me concerned.

• 8:00Tom Bilyeu?

  So Europe begins to ally behind Ukraine. They're buying weapons from the US, which Trump does willingly because he's angry with Putin. Now Ukraine is able to launch more strikes behind enemy lines inside of Russia like they did with the drones. They do an aggressive assault to try to push them back. That then triggers Putin to be more aggressive. And if Putin keeps it confined to Ukraine, great. But if Putin starts carrying out even like terroristic style bombings or whatever in another country

• 8:42Tom Bilyeu?

  or proves, he's already proven that he's willing to poison people inside of somebody else's country. So if he starts retaliating even in ways like that, where he's trying to hide behind plausible deniability, you just start ratcheting things up. And then the narrative control. Will spin like crazy and if everybody's aligned, if you can get the right and left aligned around needing to back Ukraine, then the narrative machinery is going to go into like overdrive, convincing America that sending money at a minimum, sending weapons, sending like training troops, that kind of thing is like a really standard way to get this stuff to escalate, or even just upping our presence in Europe. You see how this stuff could continue to snowball.

• 9:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Then if they really do start backing Putin into a corner, if for Putin, this starts to be existential, even just because his own country starts to believe, oh, maybe we really never should have done this. Oh, maybe we really are a paper tiger. Then all of a sudden, he's got to do something dramatic. And I don't, Putin is not giving me any indication that the dramatic thing he's going to do is withdraw. And so if you push him into a position where he feels the only thing that he can do is something dramatic on the offensive, that's how you terraform people's mindsets that Putin is bad guy. We have to do something about this. We've got to get him out. Things are escalating. Putin just did really bad thing, poisoned somebody, whatever, whatever.

• 10:04Tom Bilyeu?

  Or just launching an attack on Ukraine that steps over some sort of line. And then you can see that being used as the never let a good crisis go to waste. And we are drawn in more deeply, even if that's just economically. So that would be my concern.

• 10:24Speaker 01

  And then now from like Russia's perspective, because I feel like right now we're getting a very Western kind of lens of this. How can the US, are US eyes looking at Ukraine, looking at taking on this big monster of Russia? From Russia's perspective, what does Putin have to worry about? Like as long as his constituents aren't starving, he can just continue this war. Is there any internal pressures from the Russian side that you think Putin is?

• 10:46Tom Bilyeu?

  Depends on what's happening on the ground. And there are reports, I assume it's all manipulation, but there are reports that his economy is weakening, that people are standing, I don't know, I think gas lines is the thing that they're talking about. So if the internal economic pressure becomes too much, it will become harder for Putin. But this is the joys of a dictatorship is you. Can keep people in line pretty well and Russia had the chance to become a true democracy in the 90s. That isn't how things played out. So it's really fascinating to watch culturally what happens like in China. What happens in Russia is there is a sense of stability, even if it's stability under a tyrant is better than instability.

• 11:28Tom Bilyeu?

  And Russia went through this insane instability in the 90s. You had the rise of the oligarchs. The oligarchs come in essentially snatch everything up. People don't love that. And so you end up getting Putin who comes in, starts ruling with the iron fist again. And even if it's just a return to the familiar, people seem to take to it. So if Putin is able to rule that iron fist, tell people a narrative internally backed up by force. That feels very, and this is where I have to fully express my cultural ignorance to the Russians. So, you know, I don't know exactly how this will play out, but if he's able to tell them a story that feels right for them.

• 12:11Tom Bilyeu?

  Like, hey, I'm hammering people down with this iron fist. It's for your own good. Or because we have to save the Russian people that are, I don't know how he would represent it, but are being forced to be Ukrainianized because they really are. They pass legislation that makes it illegal to speak Russian language and certain within Ukraine. And there are certain towns within Ukraine that are first language Russian. So, yeah, I don't know how he's spinning it to his people, but it is very possible that he's able to get everybody behind him between a combination of completely controlling the media and then using force.

• 12:51Tom Bilyeu?

  So how long that will last, I would need a way clearer picture of the economic reality on the ground. Because remember, everything you're being told, if you're not reading ground news, is a spin. It's just all spin, dude. Up, down, left, right. Even just look at what's going on with Charlie Kirk. It's just spin, spin, spin, spin, spin. You can tell something is fake. You just don't know what. So without like even going to Russia, I don't know that you would get a clear picture. So you'd have to be hearing voices from Russia that somehow are getting out unfiltered information, which Russia's not exactly known for.

• 13:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, somebody in the chat said that Putin just needs a good out so that way he can save face. Like, is it one of those things where if we can just, if the great negotiator in Donald Trump could just negotiate a good deal?

• 13:38Tom Bilyeu?

  I would have believed that three months ago, maybe even. But it it's pretty clear after what happened in Alaska that Putin is, yeah, whatever, what do you need, Trump? You need me to say that this never would have happened if it was you, I'll tell you whatever you want, because I'm going to drag this on and I'm going to buy myself as much time as humanly possible to get my agenda. But I have an agenda. I will glad hand you. I will say the nice things. I will say the things you want to hear. I will come to the table, but I have my agenda and I'm going to push my agenda. And so there's a really great quote that I read years and years ago that said, don't trust what somebody says. Don't even necessarily trust what they do, but always, always trust a pattern.

• 14:20Tom Bilyeu?

  And the pattern in Putin's behavior is that he'll come to the negotiating table. He'll say he's close. He'll say he wants an end to this. And then literally he'll be like, in the meeting with you, be like, hold on a sec. Yeah, go ahead and drop those bombs. You're like, wait a second, but you just said that like, we want to, yeah, no, 100% we do. Yeah, no, go ahead and double the bombs. It's like, what is happening right now? If you've ever seen those skits where it's like, you know, I can hear you, right? So that is the pattern. And so given that that's the pattern, that's the only thing that I trust. He is going to keep pushing forward. Now, I don't know that I have, I know I don't have any unique insight into his mind.

• 15:01Tom Bilyeu?

  And I don't know if my read is right, that he is, he wants to leave a legacy. He wants that legacy to be the reunification of the USSR. He's a former KGB agent. This is somebody who understands propaganda. He understands the power of lying. He understands the power of holding a frame. So it's like, this is somebody that you can't trust that the words they say represent the vision in their mind. So, yeah, I don't, I don't think it's as simple as, oh, he's He's just looking for an exit ramp because then it's like that's part of his legacy is oh, I lost that match.

• 15:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:44Tom Bilyeu?

  So until I think, until he sees that, oh, snap, like, there's no way for me to win this. I don't think he's going to exit, even if you gave him a really good exit ramp. I think he's going to say, no, that's not good legacy. Good legacy is reunification. And he may, um, from, like, if he's got even grander ambitions, because a lot of these, these guys, uh, who don't have to get reelected, they think in really long time horizons. And he may even be thinking about, I will eventually have a successor and I want to set them up. And I want, uh, Mother Russia to continue on for another hundred years beyond me.

• 16:28Tom Bilyeu?

  And so that's reunification, that's whatever. And so he may have a vision in his head of the chess pieces that he has to move into an exact position, even if he can't get it all the way across the line. That he does not want Russia or the surrounding states to be European. He does not want them to be Western. These are guesses, but they certainly line up with the way that he's behaving. And so if he's got that story in his head, and remember when Tucker asked him, like, how do we end up here? He started back in like the whatever 1400s. I don't remember the exact year, but it was like talking hundreds of years.

• 17:00Speaker 01

  This isn't like last week, you guys did something.

• 17:01Tom Bilyeu?

  No.

• 17:02Speaker 01

  And yeah.

• 17:02Tom Bilyeu?

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• 19:43Tom Bilyeu?

  Thanks for sticking around. Let's get right back into the action.

• 19:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, we shall see. Let's jump into this Jimmy Kimmel news. He returned yesterday. I'm gonna play a couple of different clips. The whole monologue is 18 minutes, so we can't go through all of it. But this is what he had to say about, in response to the Charlie Kirk reaction to his original monologue.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  I don't think what I have to say is gonna make much of a difference. If you like me, you like me. If you don't, you don't. I have no illusions about changing anyone's mind, but I do want to make something clear because it's important to me as a human. And that is, you understand that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man.

• 20:26Speaker 02

  I don't think there's anything funny about it. I posted a message on Instagram of the Dave's killed, sending love to his family, and asking for compassion, and I meant it, and I still do. Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group for the actions of what it was obviously a deeply disturbed individual. That was really the opposite of the point I was trying to make, but I understand that to some that felt either ill-timed or unclear, or maybe both. And for those who think I did point a finger, I get why you're upset. If the situation was reversed, there's a good chance I'd have felt the same way. I have many friends and family members on the other side who I love and remain close to,

• 21:06Speaker 02

  even though we don't agree on politics at all. I don't think the murderer who shot Charlie Kirk represents anyone. This was a sick person who believed violence was a solution, and it isn't, ever. And also selfishly, I am...

• 21:24Tom Bilyeu?

  Whether you agree with him or disagree with him, you've gotta let the business model run its course. Like, if this guy has no views and there's no ratings, then it will die of its own accord. Going in and trying to push this because you hate him and you hate what he says, and you want to see him taken off the air, it is a weapon, it is an energy that is going to come back to you. And so... Again, even though I do think that he handles himself well in this monologue and I watched the whole thing, this is a just a truncated version of it, but encourage people to watch the whole thing, make up your own mind, but I don't want to see him booted for any reason

• 22:07Tom Bilyeu?

  other than the show isn't popular or the network is like, man, you're creating too many headaches for us. We want to get you out. So when you have people from the Trump admin like campaigning, this is hate speech, we can't have this kind of thing. What was the Karas quote was like, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. It's like, man, you don't want that because we already lived through it with Biden. We already lived through it with Biden. See the part from the intro with YouTube censoring people under pressure from the Biden admin. And the goal is not to use those tools more effectively against the other side. The goal is to say, this is absolutely moronic. This is not how we move forward. And then just

• 22:49Tom Bilyeu?

  as a reminder, and I really hope that people that are here for this show are on board with the idea that we absolutely must find a way to the middle. And if I can just remind everybody, this is an evolutionary game. So society is possible because evolution, the blind watchmaker, looked at it and went, oh, I have to balance two things. I have to balance the right who's all personal responsibility all the time. Go do your thing. Nothing else matters. A lot of individualism becomes hard to get the cohesion of the group because you're just

• 23:30Tom Bilyeu?

  selflessly taking care of other people. And when from an evolutionary perspective, you don't have refrigerators, you have to store calories on other people's bodies by saying, okay, I got this hunt, but you didn't. And so I'm going to share with you. But then you need the right to balance that because the second somebody goes, oh, you're going to share with me? Word, I don't have to do shit. You'll come back, you'll feed me and I'll be able to free ride. And it's known as a freeload, free loader problem or free rider problem?

• 23:59Tom Bilyeu?

  And from an evolutionary perspective, once those two things are in dynamic tension, so that and and it's obviously evolution wasn't thinking right and left. It's just trying, the reason that we break politically along those lines is because there's an evolutionary break along those lines in terms of personalities that the group needs. So the group needs compassion, but that can go pathological. The group needs personal responsibility, but that can go pathological. And so you want that dynamic tension. You want people that that have those traits that we say thusly tend towards the left to call out for compassion. And you want the people on the right who tend towards personal responsibility, carrying your weight, that kind of thing, to call out for, we don't accept freeloaders.

• 24:43Tom Bilyeu?

  Like, you've got to do your part. And when you've got both sides sort of competing with each other, you get something great. I see the same thing in business. You get a CEO and you get an operator and they tend to be very opposing personality types. And oftentimes, I have had to mediate those, even when I'm teaching entrepreneurs in Impact Theory University, I have to teach them like this. You want people, you, you have to respect the other person. So if you're the operator, you have to respect the dreamer and the person that can be unreasonable and actually get things done and push things forward and vice versa. And if you don't want that dynamic tension, you end up in a problem. So Jimmy Kimmel, to me, is a symbol of that. I don't agree with a lot of the things that Jimmy Kimmel says.

• 25:28Tom Bilyeu?

  I think that late night has become far less about comedy and far more about preaching. But whatever, I want to make sure that people are allowed to say the things that they want to say. I don't want to see people censored on YouTube or traditional TV. And if traditional TV sucks and this guy has no ratings, then it should die a natural death and just let it happen.

• 25:49Speaker 01

  Trump had a response to it. This is what he truthed out. "I can't believe ABC fake news gave Jimmy Kimmel his job back. The White House was told by ABC that his show was canceled. Something happened between then and now because his audience is gone and his talent was never there. Why would they want somebody, someone back who does so poorly, who's not funny, who puts the network in jeopardy?" By playing 99% positive Democrat garbage. He's yet another arm of the DNC and to the best of my knowledge, that would be a major illegal campaign contribution. I think we're going to test ABC out on this. Let's see how we do. Last time I went after them, they gave me $16 million. This one sounds even more lucrative. A true bunch of losers let Jimmy Kimmel rot in bad ratings.

• 26:28Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, this is exactly the kind of thing that I'm saying we don't want. So, look, if Trump were a citizen and he were saying that and saying, "Look, the ABC is given governmental funding or free airwaves," I forget the exact mechanism, but all of the networks, they get, all of the like core networks, I forget which ones qualify for this, non-capable, they get the airwaves, access to the airwaves for free. And so for that, they're supposed to present balanced coverage. Okay. Does Jimmy Kimmel present balanced coverage? Absolutely not. Does the network as a whole present balanced coverage? Probably not. I don't watch enough of it, but I am willing to bet that they don't.

• 27:13Tom Bilyeu?

  Fine. If we want to say, "Listen, this whole thing is stupid. Whether you're on the right or the left, everything is breaking along partisan lines. Nobody is getting a fair shot. None of this is balanced. And so we're going to just auction off those airwaves. And all of these guys in the age of social media, in the age of the internet, they can find another way to get to people." And they will. And go for it. That I would get. But when you start singling out a show and saying, "Essentially, we're going to sue you as the President of the United States." Dude, this is people who don't value free speech. They say they value free speech, but in reality, they're engaging in a war of partisan hackery,

• 27:56Tom Bilyeu?

  quite frankly, but they're battling for narrative control. If I were Trump and as the President, I would say exactly the following. It's clear that it's completely broken down that the airwaves are no longer something that taxpayers should be paying for. So I think everybody, right, left, center, doesn't matter, nobody should be getting this for free anymore. We've obviously gone down a path where balance is not what We prize.

• 28:19Speaker 01

  And we already cut funding to PBS, NPR.

• 28:22Tom Bilyeu?

  So just like.

• 28:22Speaker 01

  Getting out that game.

• 28:23Tom Bilyeu?

  Pull all of that. We're in the internet age. Everything is different. And by the way, thank the Lord that there are so many incredible voices on the right, from his perspective, on my team, that exist on the internet. And so this information is getting out there. Great. The thing that I, that drives me crazy about the sort of unified voice on the right when it comes to this stuff is they act as if they don't have a voice. They act as if somehow mainstream media is ever going to change. And what they want them to do is like a mea culpa, like, oh, my God, I can't believe that we've been propagandistic. It's like, everybody is propaganda.

• 29:03Tom Bilyeu?

  The right is propaganda. The left is propaganda. And so, I don't know, it just seems, it's so theatrical and so pointless. We're, we're in a hyper populist moment. Everybody is trapped in a frame of reference. Everybody is going to give you their take from their side. Instead of like banging pots and pans and saying like, they should be saying XYZ thing. Dismantle their argument. Take their arguments apart. Win people over because your ideas are tethered to reality. And if your ideas aren't tethered to reality, they should lose in the public marketplace. But that isn't the game that we decide to play. And listen,

• 29:45Tom Bilyeu?

  I've got more beef with the way that the Biden administration handled this because it was so surreptitious, so behind the scenes, so pervasive, because online is far more important than traditional legacy TV. They're both terrible. They're both anti-free speech. They both need to stop. But if you want to talk about which one scares me more, the silent, behind the scenes censoring of people and being like, what do you mean? What are you talking about? Trump, for all the lunacy in this tweet, at least he does it out in the open so that I can hate it publicly. I felt like that was like, yeah, that one like beat up like built up. Okay, so. Hated it publicly.

• 30:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Went for people to, uh, when you guys see the deep dive that I wrote for Monday, which I hope that you guys will watch, and thank you, by the way, the deep dives continue to be our best performing content. You guys are amazing. I appreciate the trust that you give them a shot. Uh, the deep dive coming out this Monday, I'm really trying to figure out what the foundational building blocks are that put us at risk for culture falling apart, uh, our country falling apart. Everybody knows my beef on economics. While I mentioned it in the video, I don't go into a ton of detail, but one of the things that I haven't talked a lot about is freedom of speech. And so I talk a fair amount about freedom of speech. I really do consider it

• 31:09Tom Bilyeu?

  one of the core bricks in this. And so getting this wrong is lunacy. And America has been the shining, um, city on a hill, precisely because the result, the results that we've been able to deliver as a nation are largely due to the scientific method, the scientific method in public discourse, the scientific method in the construction of our government, the scientific method in businesses, in science. And so, once you make freedom of speech impossible, you make the scientific method impossible. I don't talk about it that way in the deep dive, but you get my underlying thoughts. Taking a short break, but there's more Impact Theory after. Stay tuned.

• 31:52Tom Bilyeu?

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• 33:00Speaker 01

  Okay, let's talk about YouTube lining people.

• 33:03Speaker 01

  Discourse TV, just in, YouTube admits to having censored people during the COVID pandemic and for political reasons. Offers terminated creators the opportunity to rejoin the platform. This is a section from the full, I don't want to say it's a lawsuit, but their congressional address. 23, the company terminated channels for repeatedly violating its community guidelines on election integrity, content through 2023 and COVID-19 content through 2024. Today YouTube's community guidelines allow for a wider range of content regarding COVID-19 and election integrity. Reflecting the company's commitment to free expression, YouTube will provide an opportunity for all creators to rejoin the platform if the company terminated their channels for repeated violations of COVID-19 and elections integrity policies that are no longer in effect.

• 33:46Speaker 01

  24, YouTube values conservative voices on this platform and recognizes that these creators have extensive reach and play as an important role in civil discourse. The company recognizes these creators are among those shaping today's online consumption, landing much-watched interviews, giving viewers a chance to hear directly from politicians, celebrities, business leaders, and more. How do you feel about YouTube saying the quiet part all out?

• 34:06Tom Bilyeu?

  You have to at this point. I think it's very good that they're admitting this. I think it's very good if they actually stop censoring people. I just don't trust it. So we'll see. One, we'll see if the Trump admin can get off of their anti-free speech kick. Two, we will see if when we flip sides where the world is at because the Democrats have already proven they are perfectly To censor. Also, anybody that is going towards socialism, they will find out very quickly that you have to kill people in order to get everybody on the same page. So it's like, that certainly isn't, even if they want it to be free speech in the beginning, they'll

• 34:51Tom Bilyeu?

  never get there because they will understand very quickly, people, me if nobody else, will make very compelling arguments as to why what they're proposing won't work. That's going to be very detrimental to their platform. And so they are going to realize, oh, man, we just got to shut up a few of these people. And this really is something I talked about my deep dive. Killing works. It is so expedient. To kill somebody is just so effective. You never have to worry about them ever again. And so this is why all throughout human history, if somebody's really a pain in your ass, you just kill them. So don't expect that to go anywhere anytime soon.

• 35:31Tom Bilyeu?

  People are going to keep doing that. So yeah, that one scares me. So I want to see YouTube really stick with this, but I don't think it is a deeply ingrained value that they have. I think it is economically expedient right now.

• 35:48Speaker 01

  Let's kind of dive into this because right now it seems like they're talking specifically about COVID-19 and elections integrity. The elections integrity, Dominion USA, nearly bankrupt Fox News, they've settled that case. That's done. That's old news now. COVID-19, everybody it seems flipped their positions, or at least has now added more nuance to it. We were all suffering at the time. Now that we kind of have more information, we realize, okay, we could have handled that better. Is this just something that they're trying to do to kind of save face?

• 36:18Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes.

• 36:18Speaker 01

  Or is this something?

• 36:19Tom Bilyeu?

  Dollars.

• 36:19Speaker 01

  Dollars.

• 36:20Tom Bilyeu?

  It's money. Period. End of story. The, listen, if people have a mental framework that says, hey, there are things that you can say, they're just too dangerous. I can't let you say that. When, when I read James Burnham, I was like, dude, we're, we're really in a place that I don't know how it plays out. And that place is narrative control works, narrative control is important, we need shared narratives, and it will never happen again. So I was like, whoa, that era is over. That era lasted for thousands of years, thousands of years. You could control what people in your tribe believed because it was like, well, the chief said this is what it is.

• 37:04Tom Bilyeu?

  And everybody's going to get on board with it. Even when the printing press came, it's like, well, it's getting harder, but a printing press is so expensive. There's going to be very few people that can actually get all the way to having a book done. Uh, if you don't like what the guy that wrote the book says, you lock him up forever. You exile him, you make him take poison, whatever, which they routinely did. Uh, so you, you kill enough authors and it's like, yeah, people tend to say what we want them to say. Uh, now with social media, the game is over. And so now what happens? So you're in a world where let's say COVID is popping off. And please give them the benefit of the doubt to make the thought experiment difficult.

• 37:45Tom Bilyeu?

  You give them the benefit of the doubt that they actually believe that you're spreading misinformation. That will kill people. What do you do? Do you still let them say it? Like you've got Joe Rogan, so many people believe this is their perspective. So many people listen to him. He's an unhinged lunatic, their perspective. He's an unhinged lunatic. He's killing people with the thing that he's saying, bro, we've got to take him down. And if you actually believe that his words are killing people, don't you have a moral obligation to stop him? And what if his words are killing millions of people? Don't you really have a moral? Like, how much do you actually believe in freedom of speech?

• 38:27Tom Bilyeu?

  So I'm telling you, you have to look inward and go, am I prepared to live in a world where freedom of speech? Really does, because it's so messy and people are going to debate it. And a bad idea is going to take hold and maybe we don't even really know. And so maybe people really are dying because that information was just super catchy. And it just spread like wildfire and everybody believed it, but it was killing a whole lot of people. And freedom of speech will eventually bring us back around because other voices will go, hey, this is killing people. And here it is, here's the evidence. And people are allowed to study what they want, say what they want. And so we get there. But we did kill a whole lot of people with misinformation. I, Tom Bilyeu, am prepared to live in that world because I am so much more like I would rather die

• 39:12Tom Bilyeu?

  because I, man, I'm listening and I'm doing my best and okay, I took that information and I made a decision with the best information that I had available. Oops, and now I'm dead and I'm on my deathbed. I'm not going to betray my belief and be like, people should be forced to shut the fuck up. I'm gonna say, I miss this one and it sucks and these are huge consequences and I'm gonna immediately turn my thoughts to my wife and the people that I've loved and they'll love me and I'm so glad I got to go on the ride. Other people are gonna be like, no, no, no, we gotta shut people up. We know better. I am so afraid of that tyranny. Dude, I've tried, I've tried to get people to read. You only need to read three books and if you read those three books and they're like, yeah, tyrannical rule is still better. Okay, we have assessed the world very

• 39:55Tom Bilyeu?

  differently. I am not prepared to be tortured for months to get a false confession out of me because people want to control the narrative. Not cool with that. Don't want that. That's the hill I would die on. And so, yeah, not playing that game. So whatever world is born out of free speech, I am prepared to live in that world, even if we go through periods of like dramatic problems. It is far better than the, and this is a real stat, this is a real stat, this is a real stat. In the 20th century alone, in the 20th century alone, 200 million people were killed by their government. Hard pass.

• 40:40Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 40:40Tom Bilyeu?

  Hard pass. So, look, I don't expect everybody to adopt my beliefs. I think it is good that there's dynamic tension between people who think like me and people who think another way. And yes, we have to find a shared existence down the middle. But, oh my God, I don't know how people don't look at Mao's China, at Stalin's Russia, or Lenin's Russia for that matter and go. Quite literally over my dead body.

• 41:06Speaker 01

  I I'm like conflicted right now, right? Because when I was growing up, usually when a doctor says, hey, guys, we think this thing is bad for you. Maybe you should stop it a little bit. We'll be like, OK, give me two seconds. Let me do my own independent research. Let me see. But the amounts of videos and TikToks of pregnant women just facing Tylenol is kind of crazy. All right, I'll take this at the beginning. So this is Dr. Oz on the Fox News Show, talking about the link that they established between Tylenol and autism, specifically for pregnant women during a specific time in their pregnancy. So this is not if you pop a Tylenol, you turn autistic.

• 41:50Speaker 01

  It is Tylenol does a certain thing that breaks down the barrier in your brain that can then allow hyperactivity, like diseases. I don't know what the proper term is. Hyperactive diseases to be more prone. So while it's not causality, there is a correlation that he established.

• 42:08Speaker 03

  Secretary Kennedy and the three agency heads, Jay Marty and myself, we know that people who take Tylenol for prolonged periods of time during pregnancy seem to have a higher incidence of autism in aggregate. So the message is don't is not never take Tylenol. It's take Tylenol judiciously. Take it by talking with your doctor. Make sure there's an important reason to take it. Don't take it willy nilly because you think it's so safe it couldn't possibly cause a problem. Because don't those assumptions appear to be erroneous.

• 42:38Speaker 01

  OK.

• 42:39Speaker 03

  We believe.

• 42:39Speaker 01

  Boom. And then shortly after, if you run to a TikTok, it was just a bunch of.

• 42:45Tom Bilyeu?

  This is wild. This is what what are you doing?

• 42:54Tom Bilyeu?

  They're literally taking a drug they don't presumably need. She's dancing and does not seem to be in any sort of pain. Uh, to prove a point. And the thing that will pay the biggest price if they're wrong is the child. That is wild.

• 43:14Speaker 01

  And then now pulling up a tweet from March 7, 2017, Tylenol, the company themselves, said, "We actually don't recommend using any of our products while pregnant. Thank you for taking the time to voice your concerns today."

• 43:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Damn.

• 43:28Speaker 01

  So they even came out and said, "Hey, we're not the most safe."

• 43:31Tom Bilyeu?

  Damn. Wow. This dude, okay, so PSA.

• 43:39Tom Bilyeu?

  I certainly understand the emotional impulse when somebody you don't like, who you believe has authority over you, is telling you that you have to do something a certain way. I had the same reaction when they said you couldn't burn the flag. I've never had the impulse to burn a flag ever in my life. I love America so much you can't imagine. But when I was being told I couldn't do it, I had the impulse. But I would like to remind people, I didn't do it because that's stupid. I was trapped, not trapped. I, the emotion came from a frame of reference of having a problem with authority.

• 44:09Tom Bilyeu?

  Just because you hate Trump, and that's perfectly fine. Everybody has the right to dislike whoever they want. But if you are taking, again, a literal poison, Tylenol is saying, "Hey, probably not best to take when you're pregnant." So you are taking something that possibly has a negative knock on effect. And you are doing it in an effort to hurt the person that you don't like. It is nonsensical. So you are trapped inside of your frame of reference. You are trapped inside of your hate of somebody, and you are allowing it to make you make bad decisions. So when you feel that emotional impulse, man, pull out. This is why do not trust your emotions. When I had the emotion, I was like, "Yeah, I don't trust this," and

• 44:54Tom Bilyeu?

  therefore did not act on it. But man, people need to cultivate a distrust of their own emotions. But everybody trusts themselves so much. They are convinced because they feel it, then it must be true, it must be right. And you see all these people acting in accordance, man. This is like the one thing, if I could give people just a gift, gift, gift, it would be to realize, "Oh, you should be skeptical of your own emotions." Skeptical. In the extreme, they do not always lead you to your goals.

• 45:21Speaker 01

  I wish that was the only copy. I can't find. Find the link, but there was a supercut that had like six pregnant women all like.

• 45:27Tom Bilyeu?

  Dude, there's so many. I've seen so many of these things and they think that they are hurting Trump. Uh, the right. I don't know, man. It's a, it is. It is a very accurate sign of where we are, that I am just going to do the opposite of whatever you tell me. Let the exact opposite. This might be bad for me. I'm falling over myself to not only do it, but to film it and put it out. Oh my God. Like you, you are trapped, man. You are trapped. You, you've gotten sucked in to your own mind. And people just get like lost inside of a world that isn't really there.

• 46:11Tom Bilyeu?

  They have told themselves a story about something and it's not real. And they are willing to do damage to their unborn child. They are willing to put their unborn child at risk. Let's say it in the cleanest way possible. It's crazy.

• 46:23Speaker 01

  Uh, Dr. Rhonda Patrick, in light of recent news, it's worth noting that the association between acetaminophen, e. G. Tylenol use during pregnancy and childhood behavior issues is not new. This study from 2016 found a 30% increase in the risk of hyperactivity. That was the word, hyperactivity symptoms among children. Both genders exposed to acetaminophen during pregnancy. In boys, exposure was also linked to autism spectrum disorder. Symptoms in a frequency dependent manner. Causation remains unestablished, but it's exciting that OBGYNs will be getting guidance on this increased risk to inform women. And she retweeted a study that she published in 2016. And that is what caused Tyler and all to retweet that at the beginning of 2017, because it was kind of getting steam.

• 47:04Speaker 01

  But, um, as much as I want to say, you know, Mahout has a win, they announce something. This seemed like this is an older study that they're now resurfacing and they're bringing it back to light.

• 47:13Tom Bilyeu?

  God bless them.

• 47:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:14Tom Bilyeu?

  God bless them. We, so, okay, I am often asked about, um.

• 47:21Tom Bilyeu?

  Supplements and I am often given opportunities to get equity in a supplement company for promoting supplements, just raw dollars to promote supplements. And I've always been very hesitant because if, one, if using it, it falls into the placebo zone, I'm probably not going to get behind it. If it, I don't notice it at all, I'm definitely not going to get behind it. And I'm always paranoid about isolating compounds. Like the number of times we've been like, oh my God, this thing is good for you. And then people isolate the compound, they take the life out of it, and then it creates a problem. It's like, man, we evolved

• 48:01Tom Bilyeu?

  to like, have to fight for food. It was scarce. It was in a living thing, whether that was an animal or a plant. And so there's like natural balances, defenses, everything. It's like, so when you start stripping away, like take juice versus eating an apple. Apple juice doesn't have the fiber. Okay. So we did not, first of all, apples in their natural state, before we started cross breeding them, looked nothing, were macro, from a macro perspective, were nothing like the apples that we have today. And then on top of that, we're fucking juicing them. Yeah. Boys and girls, please understand that things that you put in your body matter a lot, and your body's going to respond to them. And I know that people will say things like, a calorie is a calorie is a calorie. And it's like,

• 48:45Tom Bilyeu?

  oh God, if you're talking only about putting on fat, maybe. But in terms of, you are what you eat. Your literal cells are made of the things that you chew and swallow. So be really thoughtful about the things that you chew and swallow. That doesn't mean never have a supplement ever. Listen, D3, now that I can't get sun exposure, I'm going to be supplementing D3. But with a high degree of paranoia, that there's going to be like some knock on effect, it is not as good as getting it naturally from the sun. That is my default assumption. So look, I have gut instinct, gut instinct. My gut instinct, Drew, is that what we're going to find over time is that exogenous

• 49:30Tom Bilyeu?

  Substances, meaning something isolated out in the world that we have changed in some way. And now we are taking to our bodies, either just because we breathe that stuff in the air or because it's a food item, whatever, that we are going to see that all of them are just a little bit of damage. And then they just stack and stack and stack and stack and stack. And we just are taking way too many little death of a thousand cuts into our lives through all of these modern compounds, which are amazing. And I'm glad that we have Tylenol when I have a headache or something like that. But I'm not just reaching to it every time I have a headache. I'm thinking, is this one that's going to go away? Can I give it four or five hours and see if it resolves naturally?

• 50:14Tom Bilyeu?

  If you take that stance of like, okay, I'm glad these tools exist, but I'm going to use them only if I really need them. You're going to be in much better shape. Obviously gut instinct.

• 50:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, aren't like 50% of headaches just dehydration? If you drink a bunch of water and like relax, it goes away.

• 50:29Tom Bilyeu?

  Listen, I have beef with the whole water narrative, but it's possible.

• 50:34Speaker 01

  Beef with the water narrative?

• 50:37Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. Everybody lean in, timestamp this one, bookmark it, uh, bring this one back. I'm telling you right now.

• 50:46Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 50:47Tom Bilyeu?

  Think from first principles. You're telling me water, fresh water, non stagnant, fresh water that is not present in a lot of places that somehow we have evolved to need whatever three gallons or whatever it is. That's not the right answer, obviously. But the absurd amount that people tell you to take, that we would evolve to need it like that? Get out. I have forever been like, no, no, no, there's something so sus about that recommendation. Now, again, I'm not saying dehydrate yourself. I'm just saying from an evolutionary first principles perspective, clean water was not just like laying around everywhere.

• 51:31Tom Bilyeu?

  Animals would have to risk their lives because remember we are not just human. We came up through millions of years of evolution. We're one of the most dangerous. Things you would have done is gone to the watering hole. And so it's like, nah, that one, someone, they're gonna have to explain something. And of course, now I, I am just now starting to see this could all be conspiracy. I do not have a clean take. All I have is suspicion for you. So please recognize where I'm at on my have researched this journey. But people are now starting to come out saying, yeah, you can create, I don't know if it's electrolytes, but you create a mineral imbalance because you were just constantly flushing the system, flushing the system, flushing the system. There, there's no way we were meant to live in a perpetual need to pee.

• 52:16Tom Bilyeu?

  Don't buy it. No way. Hard pass. Like it's just, there, there's something there. So I drink a normal amount of water. You see me drinking water right now. I drink water.

• 52:26Speaker 01

  What's a normal amount of water?

• 52:27Tom Bilyeu?

  If you're thirsty, drink water.

• 52:31Tom Bilyeu?

  If you're not thirsty, don't drink water. Like, I love my COO and don't even tell him I said this. But that fool drinks water like he's got a gun to his head. I'm like, what are you doing? So anyway, we'll see.

• 52:43Speaker 01

  Let's go around the world. The UN summit started today or yesterday, marking its 80th year anniversary. And the UN is on some shaky footing for the first time in its year. There was one quote in this article I wanted to pull up. The US is behaving in an incredible petty way, says Richard Gowan, the UN Director of the International Crisis Group, a think tank. From top to bottom, huge arenas of the UN's work, things like poverty alleviation, things like public health, things like gender equality, things that fundamentally anchor the UN's work. The US is actively working to disrupt them. This is at a time when the UN is underfunded, overstretched and under attack. It's lost 40% of its funding since last year.

• 53:29Speaker 01

  And aid workers have been killed in record numbers, mostly in Gaza.

• 53:34Speaker 01

  I don't know if I got your take on the UN. How do you feel about our-

• 53:37Tom Bilyeu?

  I don't know that I have a take on the UN. The reality is I would need to do research on what's their stated mission. This is one of those where at a headline level, I keep hearing things like, uh, the UN is like actively anti-Israel. So I don't know if that's true. I would really have to go in and look at this. What I will say is from this particular instance, I really believe that they were trolling Trump with the escalator for sure. There's just the timing of it's way too perfect. And that they had been joking about it the week before. They were probably trolling him with the teleprompter. So that kind of like pettiness, I don't know, that that doesn't strike me as ideal, but the idea of uniting nations is awesome.

• 54:21Tom Bilyeu?

  So I would have to look into this to have a, a sharp take.

• 54:27Speaker 01

  From a world police perspective, though, there is a level of responsibility that the US has with the UN and it has it with NATO.

• 54:36Tom Bilyeu?

  Yep.

• 54:37Speaker 01

  Do you see us, Trump seems to be wanting an America first, well, Israel first, America second policy. So is it one of those things where we want to-

• 54:45Tom Bilyeu?

  You dropping political bombs over here on us?

• 54:47Speaker 01

  Amen. Um, Israel killed three US citizens and nobody's saying anything.

• 54:52Tom Bilyeu?

  When they killed three US citizens?

• 54:53Speaker 01

  When they bombed Lebanon, even though I thought we were fighting Palestine, but, uh-

• 54:57Tom Bilyeu?

  Interesting.

• 54:57Speaker 01

  That's-

• 54:57Tom Bilyeu?

  Oh, punch his throat!

• 54:59Speaker 01

  That's coming later. That's coming later. Um, but in the world police, US as like top cop, do you think that it's important for us to be a part of these international agencies, the UN, NATO in some capacity? Maybe we're not the principal donor, but you know?

• 55:13Tom Bilyeu?

  So having nations truly be united, I think is a very, um, awesome idea. I do not want a world government, but I would love to see cooperation in the way that we as a United States have very differing opinions from state to state to state, but we still have an organization. I love that idea. Uh, having some criteria, especially from like a human rights perspective for people to be in it. I think it's all wonderful. Um, so there's certainly an idea there and I would love to see the US be a part of that kind of, um- Meta national like grouping would be amazing, but I'd need to know the specifics.

• 55:56Tom Bilyeu?

  So I have a vision in my mind that it would be incredible, but whether that's actually what's happening in the UN, that that I don't know. So if this becomes a big enough deal, I can certainly do the research necessary. But from that perspective, that would be very interesting. Now, from the perspective of World Cop, there are two World Cops now. You've got the US and you've got China. And having a world policeman, I think, is incredibly important. We're going to find out whether a multipolar world is better than a uni unipolar world. Certainly a unipolar world, when you are the unipole is dope. But you don't have that balancing act that I was talking about. You don't have two opposing forces that have to find a way to coexist.

• 56:39Tom Bilyeu?

  And that dynamic tension may actually end up being a better. Moral, the right word, maybe. It might make us make more compromised decisions. Decisions of compromise is probably a better way to say it than us just going around and bullying the world and all of that. But it will come down, I think, to how antagonistic the US and China are. And I think we're going to get extremely antagonistic. So then that becomes a problem. That feels more like the Cold War, which was not fun. That was very nerve wracking from a growing up in the eighties perspective. So we'll see if that plays out well, or if it just ends up being Thucydides' trap and we end up colliding with China.

• 57:21Tom Bilyeu?

  So you need people keeping the streets of the world safe, which are basically the waterways. So you need somebody with a big navy that's willing to go around and say, everybody chill the fuck out. We are going to have commerce. There's not going to be any fighting. We're not going to have pirates running everybody aground. So this reminds me of the Silk Road. So for anybody that looks at Genghis Khan, you will hopefully be absolutely mortified by what a moral monster he was, an absolute monster.

• 57:53Tom Bilyeu?

  And yet, the Silk Road was amazing because he was Pax Mongolia. It was just, "The world is under my thumb. You will do as I say." And so that creates stability, even though he would kill entire cities, dead. Like, I don't like the way that you guys responded to us when we rolled up. You're all dead. So, that's not ideal. Women, children, men, doesn't matter. Dead, dead, dead.

• 58:18Speaker 01

  We're gonna talk about Israel-Palestine, but I want to start with the strike. So, four US citizens, including three children, in Israeli strike on Lebanon, says Lebanese government. They were targeting a senior Hezbollah official. He was on a motorcycle next to a Mercedes. The Mercedes had the US people in it. Both vehicles were destroyed in it. Israel is reviewing the drone strike. I can't remember the last time US citizens were killed on foreign soil and their death wasn't condemned. But I feel like this is a bigger deal than it should be, but I don't want to be one of the people.

• 58:56Tom Bilyeu?

  Than it is.

• 58:57Speaker 01

  Then it...

• 58:59Tom Bilyeu?

  You said it's a bigger deal than it should be, meaning it's being blown out of proportion. You think this is not being taken seriously enough, right?

• 59:06Speaker 01

  Yes. Yes. Yes.

• 59:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Perfect. Okay, so, yeah, I don't want to see any civilians killed. So, I certainly don't want to see kids killed. That's horrible. Now, it just becomes, this is really a question about how far are nations allowed to go when they are trying to end a war? Can you go into another country? Can you bomb and kill civilians? Can you, is there any number of acceptable casualties, collateral damage? And so, as a world, I guess, we have to decide.

• 59:50Tom Bilyeu?

  So, looking at, if the numbers can be believed, according, and I never hear people push back on this number, but according to an IDF spokesperson, or an Israeli spokesperson, one of the two, but I'll round them together. Said that they've killed, I believe, thirty thousand troops of their estimation. And for every troop they've killed, they've killed two civilians. So sixty thousand civilians dead. Roughly, these numbers may not be exactly correct, but those are roughly correct. So putting it all together, eighty thousand dead, roughly. So if that's true, sorry, I just did the math wrong, sixty and thirty, ninety.

• 1:00:32Tom Bilyeu?

  So ninety thousand dead, two civilians. And it's my understanding that two civilians is like way below what the US did in Iraq, maybe also Afghanistan. So if that's true, it's like, okay, like, are we saying just collateral damage must be zero? And if collateral damage must be zero, how do you actually wage war? Is anybody counting these numbers up in Russia? Like, do we have the same beef there? So, yeah, I get it. I don't know, some of the, just like, the international outrage feels performative. Instead of like, okay, what are we actually going to do to stop this stuff? That feels like the real question.

• 1:01:13Tom Bilyeu?

  I want to see all of our energy and efforts going to, how do we disarm this bomb that is killing people day after day after day after day? How do we actually bring an end to the war? So if it's going to be,

• 1:01:28Tom Bilyeu?

  I mean, economic sanctions, let's go. If it's going to be, I mean, it's going to be different in each of the wars. So economic sanctions in Russia, if we're going to do it, let's do it. If it's, what's it going to be against someone like Israel that's got the back in the US? What are people going to do? Like, is, are we just bumping up against a might makes right? And there's no way to argue this. That's where I think we just continually stall out. So then people just bang pots and pans and try to manipulate public opinion to get people to lose an appetite for the war. But it's easy to condemn. Don't, don't drone strike.

• 1:02:06Tom Bilyeu?

  Certainly don't. If the US doesn't squawk about its own citizens being killed, we have a problem. If people are killing somebody in a foreign country,

• 1:02:19Tom Bilyeu?

  there's going to have to be some latitude for that because we certainly killed Osama bin Laden in a foreign country. Did we have their permission? I don't think we did. So it's one of those where from a

• 1:02:33Tom Bilyeu?

  We are running into this is just how the world works. So if you ask me questions, specifically, I can avoid fractaling. Is killing citizens bad? Yes. Should the US condemn the fact that four of their citizens got killed? Yes. Should Palestinians scream every time one of their civilians gets killed? Yes. Should Ukrainians scream every time a Ukrainian civilian gets killed? Yes. Should Russians scream every time a Russian civilian gets killed? Yes.

• 1:03:05Speaker 01

  Follow up.

• 1:03:05Tom Bilyeu?

  Do I think it will matter?

• 1:03:08Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:03:08Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah, because it is stacking against Israel. So there is enough screaming that can happen that it will change something. Israel isn't, Israel is going to struggle to build back alliances after this. But they're just betting on, well, we've got the US and so it doesn't matter.

• 1:03:30Speaker 01

  One of the things on the DACA for the UN is a lot of states have been calling for, a lot of countries have been recognizing the state of Palestine. So Australia, Canada, Portugal, and the United Kingdom formally recognize a Palestinian state. 142 nations endorsed the UN General Sebeli Resolution, calling for a tangible, time-bound, and irreversible steps toward a two-state solution. And France and Saudi are organizing a rally to support this issue on Monday. There's even been protests in Italy after Italian PM rejects recognizing Palestinian as a sovereign state. The claim in this tweet that this is Antifa, a far-left group, that seems to be spin

• 1:04:11Speaker 01

  because when I watched Reuters, BBC, and Al Jazeera, there was no mention of Antifa at all. It was just in response to, in response to the PM saying no, there was a pro-Palestinian protest and then this happened at a separate protest. So it seems from an international standpoint, the...

• 1:04:34Speaker 01

  The level of how much we can take of this is starting to decline. Do you think that this is putting pressure on Israel?

• 1:04:42Tom Bilyeu?

  It's certainly putting pressure on Israel. There's no doubt. There is a mounting sentiment that Israel is just completely unhinged and they're just gonna kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill until they take over the Gaza Strip. So the only thing that is going to help immediately, because even the long-term damage to their reputation, I think, has already been done. We've raised at least one generation of kids in America, maybe more to just default, assume that anybody who is powerful is bad. They hate America, they hate Israel. And so anybody that's the oppressed is automatically the morally righteous person.

• 1:05:21Tom Bilyeu?

  So that's gonna do tremendous damage to the US's reputation, to Israel's reputation. So now the question becomes, what are the steps that we could take to actually begin unwinding this? I think you absolutely need a two-state solution. However, you need, you will find yourself back in a violent position if that government is a terrorist government. Now, it is my understanding that Palestine elected Hamas. So if that's true, now admittedly Hamas then immediately took over, ruled with an iron fist, but it's like, at some point, you reap what you sow.

• 1:06:01Tom Bilyeu?

  And so if I am correct on that, and they actually did elect Hamas, that did not play out well. So they need to deal with that. So let's run a thought experiment. If Trump breaks bad and really does become a threat to democracy, then we have to stand up and say, yeah, voted for it or not, like this is our problem, we've gotta do something about it. So that's where people end up bearing arms against their government. When somebody, and look, this is not easy, and it is horrifying the way that these countries will, these leaders like that, will just kill you. Oh, you spoke up, cool, you're dead, and we lay you at the feet of your parents' house. It's actually something I think Hamas

• 1:06:44Tom Bilyeu?

  Did to a young Palestinian who carried like an anti Hamas sign or something in one of the marches. Uh, it's absolutely horrifying, but the what it becomes abundantly clear when you read the Gulag Archipelago. Is until enough people stand up and say, yep, you're going to torture me to death, but I just, I have to stand up and I want to be very clear. I do not trust myself to be that person. So this is not me taking some morally righteous stand. But I am well aware that until enough people do that, you just stay under tyranny. So you can't have a terrorist state, you won't have stability if you have a terrorist state. Let me say that in the most clear way possible.

• 1:07:28Tom Bilyeu?

  If you are a government who allows your people to be repeatedly attacked over and over. You are rightfully going to be ousted. Now, if you're a government that lets your state be attacked over and over and you get ousted, guess who you're going to be replaced with? Somebody who goes in and is more violent. So eventually you get back to the place that we're at with Israel. If I were Israel, the advice that I would give them is, uh, you have to find a way to help them build a legitimate state. And that probably means going to the neighbors who have signed the Abraham Accords. Who are Arab and saying, listen, we need your help. And you've got to build a state, we can't be a part of it, but it can't be terrorists.

• 1:08:11Tom Bilyeu?

  And so we're going to with the US put together a coalition of trusted partners. That are Arab, that are willing to go in, uh, and start bringing peace to the region. It has to be something like that. I don't know that that's going to be easy as Egypt obviously puts up walls and is like, fuck that. We are not bringing Palestinians in, which I'm always shocked that people don't look at that.

• 1:08:35Tom Bilyeu?

  I don't know of any nations, and maybe I am just blind, but I don't know of any nations clamoring to get Palestinian refugees into their country. And it's entirely, I think that people would do well to map that a very meaningful percentage of people in Palestine, especially now, support Hamas. So, do you want that?

• 1:08:56Speaker 01

  You're saying there is a meaningful?

• 1:08:58Tom Bilyeu?

  I think it's the, I don't know this, I am not on the ground in Palestine. But if I'm looking at this situation going, man, I see a lot of footage of people cheering for like dead bodies of Israelis, that even if Israel brought it on themselves, that there are many, many people in Palestine that are pro Hamas. Given that Hamas is a terrorist organization, I'm not asking you to change your belief if you believe that Israel forced them to be that, whatever. But it is that. And so now that it is that, if Canada became a terrorist state because America pushed them into it, I still have to deal with them like a terrorist state. I'm not going to be like, well, my bad, so go ahead and kill a bunch of my people. Nope, not going to be that way. So, people need to brace themselves for that.

• 1:09:42Tom Bilyeu?

  Now, if there are specific, I feel like every time we talk about this topic, I want specific arguments that people are making about what I'm saying, I want a chance to address them. So if you see something coming up, please do point them out.

• 1:09:56Speaker 01

  Mason, I'll let you scan through that. We have one more clip to round out our Israel-Palestine section. Mike Benz retweeted this clip and said it comes, "London is apparently now a crime to be openly Jewish in the middle of a public space because it might stir bad feelings amongst leftist anti-Semites." I think this was taken out of context, but let's play it.

• 1:10:17Tom Bilyeu?

  No, no, no, I've watched this. This is crazy, crazy. You have to start it over because I'm talking over it and he's talking very quiet. This is wild. So rewind it, and let me just say, you're about to hear somebody say you're very openly Jewish, and that's a problem.

• 1:10:38Tom Bilyeu?

  Is there any context in which it's like, oh, that's fine? Unless you're at a private event, it's like, uh, they're having a, um, we don't like Jews rally and you roll up into the private event. Okay. You're trespassing, whatever. This is a public street. So, all right, now, now play it. Now we'll argue once, once I hear it, then, then you can tell me how dumb I am.

• 1:11:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Pause, we're gonna need to translate this because he's so quiet. Uh, you're very openly Jewish, you're at a pro Palestinian march.

• 1:11:20Tom Bilyeu?

  I'm not accusing you of anything, but I am worried about the reaction.

• 1:11:24Speaker 01

  And then it cuts.

• 1:11:25Tom Bilyeu?

  Yep, it cuts, fair. You will be escorted out of here now.

• 1:11:31Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, uh, I certainly have what I need to take a stance because there's, even if this guy says, I am here to agitate, it doesn't change my opinion. Not a little bit.

• 1:11:46Speaker 01

  Okay, um, should we, you wanna play this out or we got the first 10 seconds?

• 1:11:49Tom Bilyeu?

  You tell me.

• 1:11:50Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:11:50Tom Bilyeu?

  If there's more that makes your argument, keep playing it.

• 1:11:53Speaker 01

  No, it, it, it's not, uh, like my argument, you're, this is what's happening, right? Uh, just so people who maybe you're, you're at home, you're watching. So there's a, a Jewish man on the side of the street. There's a pro Palestinian march happening. The cop goes over to you, says, you're quite openly Jewish. I'm not accusing you of anything. To me, the underlying implication of that is I don't want people to then agitate you. I'm doing this for your safety. I'm doing this as a protection.

• 1:12:18Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:18Speaker 01

  The equivalent I can use is if there was a, uh, the tiki churches in, uh, Charlottesville. As they were walking down, there were other group of people and then the cops came, hey, you guys are agitating them, let's break that up. Of course, somebody died and all these other stuff, people don't talk about that. But I, so I'm not upset that a police, a police officer is saying, hey, this is a right march, uh, this is a left march and you're on the right, since this is a leftist and right, right thing now. Um, let me move you over to the side. I just wanna make sure you're good, like that. So him trying to kind of pro, preemptively disarm the situation, isn't an attack from my perspective, but I am assuming good intent. So I'm assuming that the cop is saying this because he wants to help this guy and he's not actually, he's not arrested. They don't get arrested in this footage.

• 1:13:04Speaker 01

  That's my thing. You're saying it doesn't matter. I'm allowed to stand wherever I want.

• 1:13:08Tom Bilyeu?

  That is correct.

• 1:13:09Speaker 01

  Copy.

• 1:13:09Tom Bilyeu?

  If this guy wants to go and agitate, and he goes there and is like, uh, I disagree with everything you guys stand for. This is horrible. You guys hate Jews. This is terrible. I wish that you weren't even allowed to march. And then that guy has to worry about his safety. Who's the bad guy?

• 1:13:30Speaker 01

  The agitator, right?

• 1:13:32Tom Bilyeu?

  Hard pass. What is happening?

• 1:13:34Speaker 01

  Hold on. You said, you said, if you said if there's a peaceful protest going on and this guy's an agitator.

• 1:13:38Tom Bilyeu?

  Yes, and then he has to worry for his safety. Who's the bad guy? Please don't ignore the fact that I said, and he now has to worry about his safety.

• 1:13:48Speaker 01

  The agitator has to worry about his safety?

• 1:13:49Tom Bilyeu?

  Correct.

• 1:13:52Speaker 01

  Okay, so, okay, hypothec- because I feel like this is a little bit more like up in the air, right? Andrew W. said, uh, but what if he was black? They were racist. So, okay, let's, let's, let's make this super like, super on the nose, right?

• 1:14:04Tom Bilyeu?

  It already is. He's a Jew at a pro Palestinian march. We do not have to make this about black and white. You've got a Jew who is at a pro Palestinian march, and you're telling me that because he is Jewish, they should escort him away because he has to worry about his safety. What I'm saying is, that is ridiculous. Let me give you another one. There was a, I should have grabbed this footage. It makes me so mad when I see something that I don't realize is gonna stick to my ribs.

• 1:14:29Speaker 01

  Same march, same thing?

• 1:14:30Tom Bilyeu?

  No, totally different.

• 1:14:32Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:14:32Tom Bilyeu?

  But there was a guy who burned a Quran, lit that shit on fire, and a guy with a knife came after him and was slashing. He doesn't stab him, as far as I know, and they, but you see him. I saw it with my own eyes. He is slashing at that motherfucker with a knife. He clearly does not care if he hits him or not. Now, he's not stabbing, because I think there was some restraint there, but he's like slashing in front of him as hard as he can, trying to make contact. He knocks the guy down. He kicks the guy while he's on the ground multiple times. Another guy kicks him on the ground. Who's the villain?

• 1:15:04Speaker 01

  The guy with the knife?

• 1:15:05Tom Bilyeu?

  Correct!

• 1:15:06Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:15:06Tom Bilyeu?

  So I'm saying, it is very offensive to burn a Koran.

• 1:15:10Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:15:10Tom Bilyeu?

  Very offensive. You're the villain if you go after the guy with a knife. It is offensive for some if you burn an American flag. You're the bad guy if you go after the person burning the flag with a knife. If you punch a guy for burning a flag, you're the bad guy. And so I'm saying, being Jewish at a pro Palestinian rally does not make you the bad guy. If this guy has to fear for his safety-

• 1:15:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't, but who's-

• 1:15:35Tom Bilyeu?

  The people who are going to attack him are the bad guy. So I'm saying, this cop is like, "Yo, yo, yo, bro, I'm worried about your safety. We're gonna have to move you over here." It's like, "Hold on. Don't let anybody attack me." And if he's like, "Okay, listen, like, we could just get overwhelmed. There's not enough of us. These guys are getting agitated." Like, "Hey, man, I'm, I'm ready and willing to take you over there." And if this guy says, "Nope, I wanna stay here. I have every right to stay here." And the guy says, "Okay, but we can't protect you." Cool. Totally get it. The cop made it clear, he wants to do his best, but like, "Hey, I'll call for backup, but they may not get here in time." And if he's just trying to keep him safe, word. But I wanna be abundantly clear. This guy shouldn't have to worry about his safety by being at a pro Palestinian march.

• 1:16:19Tom Bilyeu?

  Ever, under any circumstance. Even if he's there yelling like a lunatic. Unless that guy starts violence, he should not have to worry about his safety. Now, if he becomes violent, he should instantly have to worry about his safety.

• 1:16:30Speaker 01

  But is, is he, okay, so we always talk about freedom of speech, but not freedom of consequence. So if he's calling a bunch of people slurs and somebody hits him in the mouth?

• 1:16:37Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:37Speaker 01

  It's-

• 1:16:38Tom Bilyeu?

  The person who punches him-

• 1:16:39Speaker 01

  The person who punches him-

• 1:16:39Tom Bilyeu?

  Is the bad guy.

• 1:16:40Speaker 01

  Is the bad guy, okay.

• 1:16:41Tom Bilyeu?

  Of course.

• 1:16:41Speaker 01

  So I could be at a, I could be at a protest. I can agitate, I can say anything, but as long as I'm not physically violent with anybody, I should be protected?

• 1:16:50Tom Bilyeu?

  Correct. That's the whole idea of peaceful protest.

• 1:16:54Speaker 01

  But-

• 1:16:54Tom Bilyeu?

  You, you should be able to protest and counter protest. Now, there are regulations about when and where you can do it. You have to like, get your right permits and all that. But assume that somebody has done that. All I'm trying to say is-

• 1:17:08Tom Bilyeu?

  People should not be afraid that they're going to be attacked for being Jewish in public, under any circumstance.

• 1:17:14Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:17:15Tom Bilyeu?

  Okay, we have no reason to believe that this guy is agitating. I'm, I'm pushing it that far so people can get real morally clear on this. But he isn't doing that. So I'm just saying, bro, we are going down a weird slope. When people are like, listen, I can't control them, they might get crazy. It, dude, this is exactly the same as telling a woman, you can't wear a skirt that short because someone might want to rape you. It's like, hold the fucking phone. I should be able to, I should be able to walk around nude. And not only should I be able to count on people coming up and putting a coat on me to make sure that I'm safe and okay, uh, I certainly shouldn't have to be worried about getting raped. And if somebody brings up, let's say it's my wife, because it's very weird, I keep saying me.

• 1:18:00Tom Bilyeu?

  My wife gets raped and in the court documents, someone was like, well, her skirt was pretty short. Get the fuck out. That's stupid. That's a level of absurdity. We're accepting something in society that is so moronic. A pro Palestinian person should not have to fear for their safety in a Jewish march. So dude, this is wild. I don't understand. Everybody should be going, okay, look, the cops trying to protect him, but if this guy doesn't want to move, everybody should understand the bad guy or anybody that would make this guy feel unsafe. That's wild. Just like, hey, you're at a Charlie Kirk rally. And there's one guy there that's wearing a shirt that's like, I'm glad Charlie Kirk died.

• 1:18:43Tom Bilyeu?

  That person should not be in fear for their life, under any circumstance. That's insane.

• 1:18:50Speaker 01

  Um, yeah, I guess. Um, I feel like we want internet rules to apply in real life.

• 1:18:57Tom Bilyeu?

  No, no, no, we, we want a civil society. We want to be able to disagree with people and it not turn violent.

• 1:19:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, so then debate them.

• 1:19:06Tom Bilyeu?

  Love it.

• 1:19:07Speaker 01

  Talk to them.

• 1:19:08Tom Bilyeu?

  Great.

• 1:19:08Speaker 01

  And the cop coming here and saying, hey, I'm worried, to me, this is like, this is good policing to me that he's worried about his safety.

• 1:19:15Tom Bilyeu?

  Is it good policing if he forces him to leave?

• 1:19:20Speaker 01

  If he's forcing him to leave, no. And there's no threat that's being posed.

• 1:19:23Tom Bilyeu?

  You and I are completely on the same page.

• 1:19:24Speaker 01

  Then no. But my thing is like the cop like presenting it to him like I don't think that's crazy if the cop is like, hey, emotions are kind of high right now. Are you sure you're like?

• 1:19:32Tom Bilyeu?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:32Speaker 01

  I appreciate that part. Okay. That's where I was confused. I was like, wait, the cop can't even say like, is the cop wrong for assuming that that would get like left?

• 1:19:40Tom Bilyeu?

  If the cop is like, listen, I'm not going to be able to get back up here in time, all is well. But what I'm saying is we are casually accepting that the opening line is you are obviously openly Jewish and this is a pro Palestinian march. That's already not okay.

• 1:19:55Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:19:56Tom Bilyeu?

  So not, not that he shouldn't say the words, that he has to say the words. Okay?

• 1:20:03Tom Bilyeu?

  If you become violent, you are the problem. You don't have to tell me why the person became violent unless the other person is violent. Now, if somebody comes in and throws a punch, yep, I, you're going to get your ass beat. Fair. If you come in and say words, nope. If you come in and are obviously Jewish. So again, this, to me, this comes down to people are not reading enough books. When the pogroms happen, when people turn on Jews, it breaks bad, it gets violent, a whole bunch of people die and people give up their humanity and it happens over and over and over in history. And there's no thing you can tell me about what the Jews are doing and controlling the money supply and ah, for me to go, oh yeah, cool.

• 1:20:43Tom Bilyeu?

  Then go kill a bunch of them. That is so wild. People have forfeited their humanity at that point.

• 1:20:49Speaker 01

  I'm cool. That's all I got.

• 1:20:50Tom Bilyeu?

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• 1:21:35Tom Bilyeu?

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