#2487 - Action Bronson

Action Bronson is a musician, chef, artist, and host of “Fuck That’s Delicious.” His next album, “Planet Frog,” is expected later this year.www.youtube.com/@ActionBronsonMusicwww.actionbronson.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Get Visible for just $20/mo for 1 year. Use code FRESHSTART. Switch & see terms at https://www.visible.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:13Speaker 01

  That one brought a smile to my face.

• 0:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and all the weird shit that someone's given me, that's at the top. Well, I got this. This is a woolly mammoth tooth that my friend John gave me. Woolly mammoth tooth with a woolly mammoth carved into it.

• 0:27Speaker 01

  That's craziness.

• 0:28Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy, right? That tooth's probably 10,000 years old. No bullshit.

• 0:33Speaker 01

  But the balls to carve into it too.

• 0:35Joe Rogan?

  I know, I would never. I mean, it's beautiful.

• 0:37Speaker 01

  It's gorgeous.

• 0:38Joe Rogan?

  The guy did it, he nailed it. I mean, it's a beautiful little elephant there.

• 0:42Speaker 01

  That's fucking unbelievable.

• 0:43Joe Rogan?

  But I would never carve into one of these things.

• 0:46Speaker 01

  It almost looks like an alligator gar from the side, like a little alligator jaw.

• 0:50Joe Rogan?

  Right. It does look right. The thing about these teeth, though, is they find so many of them that they don't think of them as precious. So you're allowed to do stuff with them. Like, you could buy a knife with a woolly mammoth handle. Like, this is a piece of woolly mammoth that they make for a gun. So you could put that on a 1911. It's a handle, made out of woolly mammoth teeth.

• 1:16Speaker 01

  You just have a knife. This is an extra handle? Is this this handle?

• 1:19Joe Rogan?

  It's the pistol.

• 1:20Speaker 01

  Or this handle?

• 1:21Joe Rogan?

  It's the pistol handle.

• 1:22Speaker 01

  It's the pistol handle.

• 1:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And this is a piece...

• 1:24Speaker 01

  It would make a good handle for this one, too, like the front one, for fucking...

• 1:28Joe Rogan?

  Okay, right.

• 1:29Speaker 01

  Like if you're holding a sick-ass thing.

• 1:30Joe Rogan?

  Sick-ass thing, yeah. Yeah, I definitely could do that, too. I mean, they basically could make anything they want out of it. They make folding knives out of it. Jamie has a folding knife out of it.

• 1:40Speaker 01

  Can you make piano keys out of it?

• 1:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, you definitely could, yeah.

• 1:44Speaker 01

  Woolly mammoth piano...

• 1:45Joe Rogan?

  They use it for...

• 1:45Speaker 01

  Woolly mammoth woolitzer?

• 1:47Joe Rogan?

  You could, right? You definitely could, if you could use ivory, you could use woolly mammoth ivory. Because they use it in pool cues. This is a tooth, too.

• 1:56Speaker 01

  I used to have my own pool cue. Unscrewed it. I used to come to the fucking pool hall with unscrew the fucking thing and get nuts with it. Having a pool, like, having a pool cue is, you're a different level of human being when you're walking around with that. You're not playing games.

• 2:12Joe Rogan?

  You're not playing games.

• 2:13Speaker 01

  You're there to play games, but you're not playing.

• 2:15Joe Rogan?

  It's a very serious thing. It's a cool thing. You show up with your own cue, like in The Hustler. A guy shows up with a leather satchel.

• 2:23Speaker 01

  That satchel alone.

• 2:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:25Speaker 01

  It's male accessories.

• 2:28Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:28Speaker 01

  I love a good male accessory.

• 2:30Joe Rogan?

  Right. Like, we don't have a lot.

• 2:31Speaker 01

  We have a knife. A knife always looks good on the side. A gun.

• 2:35Joe Rogan?

  A watch.

• 2:36Speaker 01

  Watch.

• 2:37Joe Rogan?

  Watch is a good male accessory. It's like, the most acceptable male jewelry. Don't you think? Watches, right.

• 2:43Speaker 01

  I don't want, no one with a nose ring. I don't want to pull up with this one.

• 2:47Joe Rogan?

  Or like, I mean, you could pull off gold chains and diamonds and shit, cause you're a rapper.

• 2:53Speaker 01

  No, no, I'm not. No one knows me as that. They know me as a blue collar guy. I don't even look good with jewelry on. I look silly.

• 3:00Joe Rogan?

  I do too. I feel stupid. I never wear a chain. I feel stupid.

• 3:04Speaker 01

  I don't own a chain. I had a chain back in the day. It had a little miniature Tasmanian devil piece.

• 3:10Joe Rogan?

  That was the tattoo everybody in high school got.

• 3:13Speaker 01

  Taz was the fir-, I want one now.

• 3:15Joe Rogan?

  Taz with boxing gloves.

• 3:16Speaker 01

  For sure. Boxing gloves, boxing gloves with the child's name. I have that on my name.

• 3:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, my friend Kenny got that. It was his first tattoo when we were in high school. Tasmanian devil with a boxing glove. We were all like, sick. Cause we were like sixteen.

• 3:31Speaker 01

  The Taz was, still to this day, one of, like, that and barbed wire. If you had barbed wire and Taz.

• 3:38Joe Rogan?

  Dudes went so far with barbed wire. They got barbed wire around their ankle, which is

• 3:42Speaker 01

  That's unacceptable.

• 3:43Joe Rogan?

  A big mistake.

• 3:44Speaker 01

  It was Pamela Anderson with the barbed wire. Remember that one?

• 3:47Joe Rogan?

  She had it on, didn't she have it on her ankle? Or she had it on her arm?

• 3:49Speaker 01

  On the arm, in that movie.

• 3:51Joe Rogan?

  A lot of dudes had it on the arm. Fairly okay. It's kind of a bad decision, but it's okay. But on the ankle?

• 3:58Speaker 01

  Any type of ankle accessory jewelry, other than like a surveillance.

• 4:05Speaker 01

  Really, for me, it doesn't work. My ankle's way too bulky and it's a thick ass ankle.

• 4:11Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right.

• 4:13Speaker 01

  It doesn't hold jewelry well.

• 4:14Joe Rogan?

  No ankle does. No male ankle holds jewelry well. I mean, I don't, I don't believe in it. Listen, I'm not telling you what to do. If you're a guy who likes beads on your ankle, feel free.

• 4:25Speaker 01

  If I go to Club Med and come back with the braids and the ankle twists, you know, then it's like we're on vacation.

• 4:33Joe Rogan?

  Even on vacation, ankle jewelry is odd for a man.

• 4:36Speaker 01

  But you know, people start acting different when they go on vacation. I have friends that wear different outfits. Shorts get shorter, shirts get tighter.

• 4:43Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 4:44Speaker 01

  Pieces of clothing just remove themselves.

• 4:48Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  It's like wearing, I, I need to wear the Velcro pants to just rip them off.

• 4:52Joe Rogan?

  Sometimes when you're on vacation, you just don't want to be yourself for a week.

• 4:55Speaker 01

  I feel that.

• 4:56Joe Rogan?

  Just relax. Can I just cut this fucking tie off of me?

• 5:02Speaker 01

  I also don't want an agenda.

• 5:04Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 5:04Speaker 01

  I don't want to have like, we're doing this, we're doing that.

• 5:06Joe Rogan?

  Ooh, I don't like that.

• 5:07Speaker 01

  Vacation is not to have a schedule.

• 5:10Joe Rogan?

  I think the schedule should be around eating. That's what I believe. That's my, my feeling is like, cool ancient things. Like if you're in a cool place like Athens. You know, you definitely gotta go see some cool ancient shit, but get, get the good grub.

• 5:25Speaker 01

  Speaking my language.

• 5:26Joe Rogan?

  Now, find that, find the spots.

• 5:28Speaker 01

  I was eating some rare Scampi right in front of the Pantheon. You know, like there was a beautiful restaurant known for Scampi right there.

• 5:35Joe Rogan?

  Wow. That's phenomenal.

• 5:38Speaker 01

  I was just recently in Mexico City at, uh, at Tijuca.

• 5:44Joe Rogan?

  I want to go there. I was in Mexico City only once for the UFC, but it was in and out. It was one day, you know, two days. Mexico City's a dope spot, man.

• 5:53Speaker 01

  I don't go places where it's-

• 5:54Joe Rogan?

  But there's a lot of-

• 5:55Speaker 01

  It's New York.

• 5:56Joe Rogan?

  It's kind of like a Mexican New York, but bigger.

• 5:59Speaker 01

  It is, it's, oh, it's huge.

• 6:00Joe Rogan?

  But bigger, bigger than New York, right?

• 6:02Speaker 01

  There's like 10 million people that live in the place they told us not to go to. They told you, listen, I was like, what the fuck is this massive area here? He's like, yo, don't go there. But 10 million people live there.

• 6:12Joe Rogan?

  What is the population of Mexico City?

• 6:16Speaker 01

  And I was getting that good lung capacity.

• 6:19Joe Rogan?

  Right, if you're working out up there, it's like, I think that's really high above sea level.

• 6:24Speaker 01

  It is ten thousand.

• 6:25Joe Rogan?

  Is it ten? Mexico City's ten?

• 6:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:27Joe Rogan?

  Boy, what an advantage you would have if you lived up there. And then you go down to sea level, you could fuck everybody up. Your cardio would be off the charts.

• 6:34Speaker 01

  I couldn't believe myself.

• 6:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's real, man.

• 6:36Speaker 01

  And I was just doing normal things, I wasn't even working out.

• 6:38Joe Rogan?

  Right, exactly, you just feel like you're like, got more, you're more blood in you, because you do. Whoa, low to mid twenty million people, depending how you define its boundaries. Wow.

• 6:49Speaker 01

  It's also unknown, there's no census that I could...

• 6:52Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 6:52Speaker 01

  It's also very, it's, it's lots of shanty situations as well.

• 6:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh, of course, yeah.

• 7:00Joe Rogan?

  Where? No.

• 7:03Speaker 01

  A shooting?

• 7:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I did see something like, a guy, it's just a crazy person, right?

• 7:08Speaker 01

  Oh shit.

• 7:08Speaker 00

  I believe so, yeah.

• 7:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Tijuacan, a popular tourist archaeological site outside of Mexico City.

• 7:13Speaker 01

  That's where you're not allowed to go, that's the sun temple.

• 7:16Joe Rogan?

  You, you're not allowed to walk out of it?

• 7:17Speaker 01

  You're not allowed to walk there, no.

• 7:18Joe Rogan?

  Like, what they're doing?

• 7:19Speaker 01

  Just to that area, and then you can't go up.

• 7:22Joe Rogan?

  And so this guy just started shooting people?

• 7:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:24Speaker 01

  Oh wait, you can't go there, he's fucking, he's elevated, yeah, that's the sun temple.

• 7:28Speaker 00

  He's there with the gun, and there's a bunch of people like, laying down on the ground that were like...

• 7:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Jesus Christ.

• 7:34Speaker 00

  Like, he's like, shooting right at him.

• 7:36Joe Rogan?

  What, so what?

• 7:37Speaker 01

  This is crazy.

• 7:37Joe Rogan?

  He said something to them too. I saw something on Google this morning, he said something to them?

• 7:44Speaker 01

  That motherfucker was hopping on one leg. Did you see the hopping?

• 7:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh, fuck, Jesus Christ.

• 7:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, I didn't see that.

• 7:52Joe Rogan?

  Just going to go check out some cool buildings, and someone shoots your fucking Achilles tendon off?

• 7:57Speaker 01

  Bro, that's, that, that's one of the worst injuries you could probably sustain, is an Achilles injury.

• 8:02Joe Rogan?

  Especially with a gunshot.

• 8:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:04Joe Rogan?

  How many people died?

• 8:05Speaker 00

  Uh, I think one...

• 8:10Speaker 00

  So seven people were shot.

• 8:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 8:12Speaker 00

  One fatally shot.

• 8:13Joe Rogan?

  The story of that area, that place is so insane. I went down this long rabbit hole because I'd read something that the Aztecs didn't build that and that they found it there. And they called it the place where gods were born. And so then I went in this deep dive on the Aztec people and whoever was there before them. It's a total unknown. There's so much about that area, like the Olmecs. They don't, who the fuck were they? They don't know. They just got these giant stone heads that look like they're either Polynesian or African. They're fucking huge heads with a helmet on. And there's a bunch of them and no one knows who made it? No one knows what language they spoke? It's crazy. It's truly unbelievable.

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• 12:00Speaker 01

  I know there's one native language that I worked in kitchens my whole life, so they would always joke with me that they were speaking Totonaka. And Totonaka is definitely like a tribe from down there, and it's these mythical curing people, like these, the healers. And we we happen to actually, my wife knows a a part, a woman from the lineage of that family. It's all just crazy shit, but regardless of that, just the sheer fact of those buildings, I I saw with my own eyes. That that's not it. There's more underneath. That's not just, it's all surface area shit.

• 12:35Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right.

• 12:36Speaker 01

  That stuff go, it runs deep. There's like cities on top of cities on top.

• 12:41Joe Rogan?

  They build them on old ones.

• 12:43Speaker 01

  I mean, it's just like you tile the floor. You just leave that bullshit and you just tile right over it.

• 12:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, even in, when I was in Italy, we were in, uh, Ravello. And there's this beautiful church up there. You go for a little walk up the hill. There's a beautiful church, old church, like from the eighteen hundreds, but it's built on top of a church that's like a thousand years old. And there's a glass floor.

• 13:02Speaker 01

  Yup.

• 13:02Joe Rogan?

  You could see through to the bottom with the original ruins.

• 13:06Speaker 01

  The same thing in Mexico City.

• 13:08Joe Rogan?

  They do that everywhere.

• 13:09Speaker 01

  There was these people making their pilgrimage where they crawl on the floor from fucking hundreds of miles away in Jesus's name just to get to the church.

• 13:17Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 13:18Speaker 01

  You ever, I don't know what that, there's some, some act of like some humbling act where they crawl from hundreds of miles away to the church. And everyone come, I don't, millions of people come to this. It was fucking crazy.

• 13:32Joe Rogan?

  That would be a religious experience.

• 13:34Speaker 01

  It truly was, I like, I was just in there, we caught sermon and I was just, I was getting fucking chills. Like I, just from the way they spoke and the echo, the way that the the acoustics in this room was.

• 13:46Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 13:47Speaker 01

  It was meant to give you chills. They know what they're doing.

• 13:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 13:50Speaker 01

  They know what they're doing.

• 13:51Speaker 00

  I don't want to go down the full like Charlie Kirk rabbit hole, but I saw this video yesterday where he visited Jerusalem and they were taking him to this place underground where they mapped it out and used archaeology to find out that like, I believe the spot here where they're at, Jesus, I think preached or something.

• 14:07Speaker 00

  It's all, they found it underground and they just built the city on top of it. Like you're just saying.

• 14:12Speaker 01

  There's all these phenomena like in-

• 14:14Joe Rogan?

  But that is a common thing. Yeah, it's a common thing.

• 14:17Speaker 01

  Where they find this is where he was.

• 14:19Joe Rogan?

  No, no, I mean, it's a common thing where they take old sites and they just build new sites on top of them. It's a really common thing.

• 14:26Speaker 01

  Well, it's kind of, it's fucked up, but it's also like paying homage.

• 14:31Joe Rogan?

  I guess kind of.

• 14:32Speaker 01

  Like keeping the same, like, keeping the same vibe, like the-

• 14:36Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's just like rebuilding a house.

• 14:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, you wanna keep some bones. Keep his good bones, it's like there's good bones there.

• 14:42Joe Rogan?

  Right. I don't think people probably had a really good sense of what history would mean 2,000 years later back then. You know what I mean? Like when they were doing all this shit.

• 14:51Speaker 01

  They were busy, they were busy, they left all kinds of tchotchkes, man.

• 14:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 14:55Speaker 01

  They left so many tchotchkes, it's crazy.

• 14:57Joe Rogan?

  That's true.

• 14:57Speaker 01

  I feel stupid, like, what am I, like, I have to do the same thing with my time. I have to constantly be, I have to leave cool shit.

• 15:05Joe Rogan?

  Because they left cool shit.

• 15:06Speaker 01

  Just because I feel it in me as well, like, I get, I get it.

• 15:10Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 15:10Speaker 01

  I get it. But when I went to the museum down there, you see all these things, it's like, ornaments, like, like, just literal tchotchkes.

• 15:19Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 15:20Speaker 01

  Things you would see ornamentally placed by your grandmother on top of things, or like, on top of doily. Just for decorative purposes.

• 15:28Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 15:28Speaker 01

  But also everyday things and just, everything meant something. Everything meant something to them and everything was done with intention. I don't think that this was all accidental for them. They knew, well, they knew who they were praising. All the little figurines for the fertile women were these women with big, humongous hips and asses and, big breasts and stuff like that, these are the nurturing women. Then they showed the people who were supposed to be witch doctors, they fucking look like witch doctors, all crazy. Three skulls holding crazy fucking things.

• 16:02Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 16:02Speaker 01

  Like, they determined, my view, or these views of who, like, who people are.

• 16:11Speaker 01

  You understand, like, status-wise and species-wise, like, this is a barber, this is a this. And your idea of what that person looks like, a nurturing woman is known to be a voluptuous woman.

• 16:25Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 16:25Speaker 01

  Their ideas were there already. They built all their, all their little tchotchkes and their little statuettes that they represent these women, very voluptuous.

• 16:35Joe Rogan?

  It would have been interesting to see, to hear their version of the world, you know what I mean? Like, I wonder what they knew about the rest of the world? I wonder how much they knew, how much they knew about, like, Europe and Asia, and how much they knew about Africa? Did they know anything about all that stuff? Like, when they were existing, like, whoever built, how do you say it, T O T Wakan?

• 16:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, T O T Wakan.

• 16:57Joe Rogan?

  Whoever built that, like, how much did they know about the rest of the world? That's what's interesting, because we don't really know. We assume that they were all isolated. But more and more, as time goes on, they keep finding evidence of earlier and earlier seafaring people. Like, I think they've pushed people in boats back to sixty thousand years now. Let's see if that's true. Put that in perplexity. What is the oldest known use of boats?

• 17:26Speaker 00

  Also, speaking of that, that Noah, they think they found Noah's Ark.

• 17:29Speaker 01

  As long as there's been water, there's probably been something to float on it.

• 17:31Speaker 00

  Noah's Ark scans, we brought that up before.

• 17:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Mount Ararat in Turkey?

• 17:36Speaker 00

  But yeah, it's been going around Twitter the last couple of days. I think they did some new scans and found some stuff underneath it.

• 17:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, shit. I want to see that. But what was the other question? The other question is the oldest boat. What do you guess? Take a guess.

• 17:48Speaker 01

  Fucking, it's beyond my thought. It's like, I don't even know a number. A number doesn't come to mind. Like, as long as there's been water, what the fuck does that mean? I don't even know.

• 17:59Joe Rogan?

  I wonder how long it took, like, early man to figure out that trees float? And if you could figure out a tool, once they figured out tools, they must have started making stuff.

• 18:10Speaker 01

  But when we see all these ancient, really, like, laser diagnostic fucking situations, they knew already.

• 18:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's different. That's different. Like Egypt, right? Um, "Archaic humans are crossing substantial sea channels long before our species Homo sapiens appeared on the record." Whoa. So...

• 18:31Joe Rogan?

  Implying intentional crossings as far back as roughly four hundred and fifty thousand years ago.

• 18:38Speaker 01

  When you think about it.

• 18:39Joe Rogan?

  What the fuck?

• 18:40Speaker 01

  Fucking polar bears and seals, they jump up on a little broken piece of ice and they float.

• 18:45Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 18:46Speaker 01

  That's a boat.

• 18:47Joe Rogan?

  I, uh, yeah.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  That's a boat.

• 18:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's what the polar bears are doing. You're absolutely right.

• 18:51Speaker 01

  Put their hand in the water as a rudder, and just go this way, let's go that way.

• 18:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they know what they're doing. They know how to tip them over.

• 18:56Speaker 01

  They know exactly.

• 18:57Joe Rogan?

  To get the seals to pop off, slide.

• 18:59Speaker 01

  It's years of evolutionary knowledge.

• 19:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Four hundred and fifty thousand years is bananas, though. I, I, I thought it was like sixty.

• 19:06Speaker 00

  Well, that, uh, further up it said somewhere between sixty and a hundred and thirty thousand, but this article here says could be even more before that.

• 19:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, what was that most recent disco- discovery of a human skull that backdates human beings? Not necessarily Homo sapiens, but versions of humans back to a million years? Was it Homo, not Homo naledi?

• 19:30Speaker 00

  It was, that was a skull they had, but they didn't.

• 19:32Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 19:33Speaker 00

  New testing or something.

• 19:34Joe Rogan?

  Right. And this, it said, they said it's a million years old. So I don't think it's us, but I think it's, it co- the thing, the question is, it coexisted with us.

• 19:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's about a million years old, is what it says.

• 19:49Joe Rogan?

  So that might mean we're a million years old. Wanna see some shit, or hear about some shit that I just read the other day that's nuts? You know how the thought is that there's Neanderthals and that human beings bred with Neanderthals? And that's how the Neanderthal population went out? There's this, uh, there's at least this one researcher who has a different opinion. And he was using genetics to point this out. He said that he believed that humans may have created Neanderthals. So that humans bred with an even older human species. And Neanderthal is the offspring of the humans, Homo sapiens, and whatever this older thing is.

• 20:32Speaker 01

  It didn't create a superhuman, though.

• 20:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, the Neanderthals are kind of a superhuman.

• 20:36Speaker 01

  But mentally, they're known to be a little bit like Neanderthal, no?

• 20:41Joe Rogan?

  See, that's a statement that people say.

• 20:44Speaker 01

  I'd like to know, were they, is Neanderthal really an intelligence, or is it dumb?

• 20:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we don't really know.

• 20:51Speaker 01

  I'm a fucking idiot, like, I must be this.

• 20:53Joe Rogan?

  They had bigger brains than us, though, which is weird. But that might have been to have better musculature, better coordination. They were way stronger than us.

• 21:03Speaker 01

  Huge.

• 21:03Joe Rogan?

  They weren't big. They were like 5'7", 5'8".

• 21:06Speaker 01

  But like bone structure, right?

• 21:08Joe Rogan?

  Right. They're built completely different than us. They would tear us apart. They would tear us apart the way like a chimpanzee would tear you apart. They'd just rip your arms off, like, they're insanely strong. And their bones are much denser than ours. But it says, "The gap between genetics and archaeology leaves us with an unclear picture of where the Neanderthals originated." Columnist Michael Marshall details a surprising new hypothesis that suggests they may have come from us. So this was the, this was the thing that I had read.

• 21:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's fine.

• 21:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you have to buy a, what is this, New Scientist? We should probably get a subscription for them, anyway. We use them a lot. They got good shit on there. So I think the idea is that they're, you know, they keep finding these other versions of humans. Like, they found this thing called the Denisovan. And then they found this other one. What do they call the big-headed people?

• 21:58Speaker 01

  Where are they finding these, like, what zone?

• 22:02Joe Rogan?

  China's one of them. They found the big-headed guy they found in China. You know, they find them all over the world, man. They find these bones that are just weird. You gotta think of how few human bones are gonna make it from people that are alive right now. So few of us are ever gonna become fossils. So we're putting together a version of the history that's completely incomplete as far as the evidence is concerned. There's just not enough evidence of, like, bones. If we had, like, look, if everybody who ever lived died and left their bones, and then future people could study their bones forever, boy, we would know so much more. We would know so much. So much more. There'd be bones everywhere, but we would know so much more about how things work.

• 22:45Speaker 01

  Fringe did something with them. Fucking catacombs, put them underground, build something, make it decorative.

• 22:51Joe Rogan?

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• 23:32Joe Rogan?

  Refresh your wireless with Visible. Switch today at visible.com. Terms apply. Limited time offers subject to change. See visible.com for plan, features, and network management details. The decorative. Noah's Ark mystery deepens as researcher blows lid on strange rock formation in Turkey. So this, this rock formation is on Mount Ararat. That's what it looks like?

• 24:00Speaker 00

  This thing here in the middle, yeah, and they said it's the same.

• 24:02Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute, that's not AI?

• 24:03Speaker 00

  Nope.

• 24:05Speaker 01

  Is this all lidar?

• 24:06Speaker 00

  So this is a picture.

• 24:08Joe Rogan?

  Bro, that's crazy. That's the actual image?

• 24:11Speaker 00

  I'll show you the other ones they have.

• 24:12Joe Rogan?

  God, that looks like, that looks like what somebody would send me in a Facebook group chat. They found Noah's Ark, I'm like, right.

• 24:20Speaker 01

  This shit right here, if it's not AI, if it's AI, it should say it.

• 24:24Joe Rogan?

  Right. If it's not AI, God, it looks like a boat. So look, I'm not a geologist or someone who's a landscape expert, but that's a very unusual feature. What are the odds that something looks exactly like a boat?

• 24:38Speaker 00

  Um, so then underneath it, they scanned it, and then they're saying that these potentially are hallways or...

• 24:46Speaker 01

  I mean, that's the shape of a boat.

• 24:47Joe Rogan?

  That's a fucking boat. Oh, so there's structure inside of it?

• 24:52Speaker 00

  Well, the biggest issue is that this is on the side of a mountain. So that's not where the ocean is.

• 25:00Joe Rogan?

  Bro, the great flood.

• 25:01Speaker 00

  It's sixty five hundred feet above sea level, it says. So if you're gonna go with the story of the flood, then you'd have to say that we don't know exactly when the flood happened because this would be petrified wood or something. And I read it takes somewhere between thousands and millions of years to get petrified wood. So we'd have to be on the lower end of the thousands because it's probably not millions of years. And then tectonic plates would have had to lift it all the way up here.

• 25:28Joe Rogan?

  No, not necessarily if the flood receded.

• 25:31Speaker 00

  Well, I guess.

• 25:31Joe Rogan?

  When the water was that high.

• 25:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, if it flooded the entire planet.

• 25:35Joe Rogan?

  Right, but then the question would be, where's all that water?

• 25:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't think it flooded.

• 25:38Speaker 01

  All kinds of strange phenomena push things towards the surface.

• 25:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 25:42Speaker 01

  This could be anything.

• 25:44Joe Rogan?

  It could be anything, but boy, it looks like.

• 25:46Speaker 01

  No, but what I mean is like, yeah, like if it was down below, the water could definitely push. I like, everything could be pushed as long as that's like nestled in there.

• 25:55Joe Rogan?

  I think a lot of this is this. The universe fucking with us. So I think it's part of the simulation. Part of the simulation is the universe fucks with us. And the universe shows you some things that shouldn't be real by your version of what is and isn't true.

• 26:11Speaker 01

  AI.

• 26:13Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's one.

• 26:13Speaker 01

  Pretty much what the fuck it no.

• 26:15Joe Rogan?

  That's happening.

• 26:15Speaker 01

  That's the explanation of it.

• 26:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that is. But then there's stuff like this, if this isn't AI, it's almost like the universe is AI.

• 26:24Speaker 01

  Like, looks like a big abalone.

• 26:25Joe Rogan?

  Not real. Whoa, so is that line up with the actual biblical?

• 26:30Speaker 00

  That's where like, this is even five years ago that this picture on the screen was taken. So I think that they're doing, whether or not they're taking some liberties and what the descriptions are or not, I don't know.

• 26:41Joe Rogan?

  Boy, it certainly is a weird shape.

• 26:43Speaker 01

  This is Noah's Ark right here, this thing?

• 26:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 26:45Speaker 01

  It looks like a fucking riverboat.

• 26:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's what it was.

• 26:48Speaker 01

  Looks like we're playing, like we're playing Peanuckle on the riverboat there on that one.

• 26:52Joe Rogan?

  Well, you had to get all the animals in there, bro.

• 26:53Speaker 01

  This doesn't seem like that would be the one.

• 26:56Joe Rogan?

  What did you think it looked like?

• 26:57Speaker 01

  I don't know, like some fucking mega yacht.

• 27:01Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 27:01Speaker 01

  Bunch of holes and what, what, what is the things, the?

• 27:05Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 27:05Speaker 01

  The staffs and holes?

• 27:07Joe Rogan?

  Listen, I think, I think the story of the flood's a real story because it exists in too many cultures.

• 27:13Speaker 01

  Water is very unexplainable. Water has no enemy.

• 27:16Joe Rogan?

  And tsunamis. Tsunamis fucking happen, dude. And if they happened and you were in that area, you would think it's the end of the world. Because you don't have contact with people in Europe. You don't have contact. So wherever you are is an apocalypse.

• 27:30Speaker 01

  It's the Great Flood.

• 27:31Joe Rogan?

  You think it's the whole world's gone.

• 27:32Speaker 00

  I don't know if there's anything specific about the acacia wood, but I remember looking this up last week and it very specifically said acacia wood was used to make the ark.

• 27:40Speaker 01

  I'll tell you this, acacia honey is fucking unbelievably delicious.

• 27:44Joe Rogan?

  Well, the reason he's bringing that up is acacia is also rich in DMT. And that's these scientists.

• 27:49Speaker 01

  No wonder I like it.

• 27:50Joe Rogan?

  There you go, doc. These researchers out of Jerusalem think that that's what Moses' burning bush was. So where God saw, where Moses saw God as a burning bush, that's what they think that means. They were burning the acacia bush.

• 28:05Speaker 01

  He was hitting the deems.

• 28:06Joe Rogan?

  He was hitting the deems. He was hitting the deems. He probably did talk to God. God probably did have some good messages for humanity in the early days. We were basically just savages. Wild fucking creatures with stone tools.

• 28:21Joe Rogan?

  Man. We've come a long way. I mean, human beings are still trying to figure it out. Obviously, right, we're in the middle of three fucking wars going on in the world. But we're doing better. I think.

• 28:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:35Joe Rogan?

  I think we're doing better. We're doing better in day-to-day stuff. Day-to-day interactions with people are definitely, for the most part, better.

• 28:43Speaker 01

  I've been, you know, I feel like, I just feel like we're at a place where everyone's gonna either, they're gonna come together or we're gonna just fucking totally rip our fucking heads off.

• 28:54Joe Rogan?

  Right. My fear is that a lot of chaos is gonna happen and they're gonna use that as an excuse to have AI run everything. And that's where things get really fucking weird. That's where creativity dissolves, freedom dissolves. You become some little biological time card.

• 29:12Speaker 01

  Well, the other day, I fucking, I posted a picture of a frog that I AI-generated, just because I wasn't able to get the frog to do what the fuck I wanted to do in real life. Like, I want the frog holding frog popsicles.

• 29:29Speaker 01

  He was being difficult, so I had to fucking use another guy. And I, these, everyone was blasting me like, yo, not you, not you. I can't believe you used AI, like, yo, you're.

• 29:40Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 29:40Speaker 01

  People were fucking flipping out on me.

• 29:42Joe Rogan?

  So people are upset that you're using.

• 29:42Speaker 01

  I generated a picture of a frog.

• 29:45Joe Rogan?

  Who is mad at you for this?

• 29:47Speaker 01

  Whoever is on my Instagram.

• 29:50Joe Rogan?

  Huh.

• 29:50Speaker 01

  And my fans and the people who, who are, you know, just hating on AI. I get, I get the idea of like using it in a, you know, in a conniving way or in a, you know, but it was a picture of a fucking frog.

• 30:07Speaker 01

  There it is.

• 30:09Speaker 01

  That's fucking good.

• 30:12Joe Rogan?

  That's cool.

• 30:12Speaker 01

  And I said that that was gonna be my album cover, but then.

• 30:16Joe Rogan?

  Why is that bad?

• 30:17Speaker 01

  They were like, yo, you're taking away opportunities from other artists. Uh, well, let me just clear this up. I wouldn't have hired you no matter what, because I do all my artwork anyway. There was no job to be taken away. So let's just, if that's the argument, you could throw that one out.

• 30:36Joe Rogan?

  This is just tools.

• 30:37Speaker 01

  Good old fun.

• 30:38Joe Rogan?

  Listen, I don't think.

• 30:39Speaker 01

  This is Photoshop, pretty much.

• 30:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, look, it's beautiful.

• 30:42Speaker 01

  Thank you, man.

• 30:42Joe Rogan?

  It's very cool looking.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  But then I did.

• 30:45Joe Rogan?

  I get what people are saying.

• 30:46Speaker 01

  I get it too.

• 30:47Joe Rogan?

  I get it.

• 30:47Speaker 01

  After it was explained to me by a younger generation of mine.

• 30:51Joe Rogan?

  I get you should hire artists to make stuff, but do you know how long it'd take an artist to make that? Unless the artist is doing exactly what you're doing.

• 30:57Speaker 01

  But I get that, but I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have hired him in the first place because I do all the artwork on my own. Everything comes from me.

• 31:04Joe Rogan?

  But so it's not a job loss, no matter what.

• 31:06Speaker 01

  No, it wasn't a job loss, no matter what, but I get the, I get the idea of it.

• 31:11Joe Rogan?

  I get the idea.

• 31:11Speaker 01

  It's shits and giggles, you know, like it's fucking whack that that's, that's what people are worried about.

• 31:17Joe Rogan?

  I don't think, I think it's just a bunch of people looking for things to complain about, A. And then there's also like a sentiment in the air, which is that AI is coming for everybody's job. So anytime someone's uses AI that could have been used by people, there's a certain percentage of people that are gonna kind of rightly be upset.

• 31:34Speaker 01

  I get it.

• 31:35Joe Rogan?

  But you're not gonna stop it. This is the thing. That fucking, that wave is 2,000 feet high and it's moving 100 miles an hour and you're not gonna stop it. It's not, you're not gonna stop it. This is just what AI is.

• 31:48Speaker 01

  I didn't, I didn't realize. The severity, I mean, I guess I do now, but.

• 31:54Joe Rogan?

  Bro, it's alive.

• 31:55Speaker 01

  It's fucked, it's fucked, for sure.

• 31:56Joe Rogan?

  These things are alive. And they're gonna be able to do everything for you.

• 31:59Speaker 01

  I don't usually use any of those things. I'm pretty, you know, Neanderthal when it comes to this type of thing.

• 32:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. See, the thing about the Neanderthals is they don't know if they were dumb. So they used to think that they were really stupid. And then they realized that they probably had language and they probably had tools and they probably had a sophisticated society and they buried their young and maybe we just assumed because they're brutish and strong that they were stupid. But their brains are bigger than our brains. They might not have been dumb.

• 32:30Speaker 01

  I consider myself a Neanderthal.

• 32:31Joe Rogan?

  They have big eyeballs, too.

• 32:32Speaker 01

  Looks are deceiving. You think that, you know, some schlub. And here I come, fucking mister.

• 32:39Joe Rogan?

  Bro, they've never seen you with the mace.

• 32:40Speaker 01

  Oh, my god. I did it this morning.

• 32:42Joe Rogan?

  You can swing that motherfucker, dude. It's very impressive. It's a hard thing to do.

• 32:46Speaker 01

  And I got, I got up to like eighty-eight pounds on that bitch.

• 32:49Joe Rogan?

  Ooh.

• 32:49Speaker 01

  Which is ridiculous.

• 32:50Joe Rogan?

  That's a lot. I started doing this new kettlebell exercise. You do like an eight in the air.

• 32:55Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 32:55Joe Rogan?

  With a kettlebell. We start it like this and you go all the way up and down like that.

• 33:01Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, that's crazy.

• 33:01Joe Rogan?

  Like bending it.

• 33:02Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 33:02Joe Rogan?

  And over around your head. Woo!

• 33:06Speaker 01

  Serious deal.

• 33:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god, your, your core, you're low, you don't realize like how weak that shit is in those weird movements. Until you try something like that.

• 33:13Speaker 01

  That's why the kettlebells are the best things. Kettlebells, the, the, the clubs.

• 33:18Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 33:18Speaker 01

  The mace.

• 33:19Joe Rogan?

  Awkward stuff.

• 33:20Speaker 01

  Awkward. I love all that stuff. All the sandbag work. I'm still doing that every day. Since I was here last, I know it doesn't seem it, but I've lost like twenty pounds.

• 33:28Joe Rogan?

  Congratulations.

• 33:29Speaker 01

  Well, I got up to three hundred again.

• 33:31Joe Rogan?

  Damn, dawg.

• 33:32Speaker 01

  And now I'm back down to two sixty-five. I know you can't see it, but I'm kinda jacked.

• 33:36Joe Rogan?

  Well, you're very thick.

• 33:37Speaker 01

  I'm jacked, I'm jacked.

• 33:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. You're very like, you're a bull.

• 33:42Speaker 01

  I know, man. But I try, I'm trying to be a.

• 33:43Joe Rogan?

  You put the work in, it's just, but you, the problem is you also work with food, delicious food.

• 33:48Speaker 01

  I stopped eating so much pasta.

• 33:49Joe Rogan?

  Phenomenal food. Did you?

• 33:50Speaker 01

  I did.

• 33:50Joe Rogan?

  So much is a funny way of saying it.

• 33:52Speaker 01

  I'm not eating so much pasta.

• 33:54Joe Rogan?

  By whose definition is so much?

• 33:57Speaker 01

  I've, I've cut it out a lot.

• 33:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 33:59Speaker 01

  I'm trying to dial it in heavily. I'm trying to really dial it in. I need, this is, this is my life. It's all about being dialed in.

• 34:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 34:07Speaker 01

  I can't let it go, cause once I let it go, it's going.

• 34:11Joe Rogan?

  I hear ya.

• 34:12Speaker 01

  It's going.

• 34:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I know.

• 34:14Speaker 01

  But you know, like this morning.

• 34:15Joe Rogan?

  It's hard, once you get that fucking, those carbs. Once you get that pizza and that pasta rolling.

• 34:20Speaker 01

  You know what, once I stopped, I don't even fucking need that shit right now. I don't even crave it, that's not, I'm not really interested in that. A simple piece of toasted whole wheat bread does it for me. Just jam that. I don't need pizza. I've eaten enough pizza in my life for fucking forty-five children.

• 34:40Speaker 01

  Forty-five children's lifetimes couldn't equate the amount of pizza I've eaten.

• 34:44Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious.

• 34:46Speaker 01

  So, I mean, I, I feel like I've eaten enough of everything that I've needed to. Now it's time to just fuel. It's all about the fuel.

• 34:54Joe Rogan?

  You're dialing in.

• 34:55Speaker 01

  I'm, I'm working out with like, serious dudes, dudes that are like, jacked out of control. And I'm the only one that's rounded.

• 35:00Joe Rogan?

  Do you have a chan- a trainer that you work for?

• 35:02Speaker 01

  No, no, no, I just, I train with dudes who train every day.

• 35:05Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 35:05Speaker 01

  One dude's an IFBB pro and...

• 35:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, bodybuilders.

• 35:08Speaker 01

  Bodybuilders. But, I'm trying to do a little bit of that. I introduce my stuff, you know, no one could really do the masons, because that takes a long time to like, perfect that work. And everyone's way too tight.

• 35:21Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 35:22Speaker 01

  So, I do that on my own, I do like, three days of that with the kettlebells, and I do normal shit. Deadlift. My knee's a little fucked, so I'm doing zergers. Zerg is my favorite squad, anyway.

• 35:34Joe Rogan?

  Zergers are great.

• 35:35Speaker 01

  It's my favorite.

• 35:35Joe Rogan?

  It's really good for grappling and just for elevating your testosterone.

• 35:40Speaker 01

  Bro, it's known to be like, one of the, it's, it's definitely like, it's a jujitsu and, and it's a, every MMA fighter should be doing that.

• 35:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's big for wrestlers, the ability to take people down and also stuff takedowns, the same sort of strength.

• 35:51Speaker 01

  That, that thrust.

• 35:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 35:53Speaker 01

  It's, it's phenomenal, it's my favorite squat. By far.

• 35:56Joe Rogan?

  It's great. The Dutch shoulder stuff that you're doing, all that mace stuff, you must have like, really strong shoulders. My baby's shoulders never fuck with you.

• 36:03Speaker 01

  Not anymore, because I, I healed myself with the Onnit motherfucking club.

• 36:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 36:08Speaker 01

  Like, literally John Wolfe helped me. I would just hit him up like, yo.

• 36:12Joe Rogan?

  Those things are great. It's great just because most of the time when you're lifting, you're just picking stuff up.

• 36:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:18Joe Rogan?

  You know, you're doing bench press. With this, like, you're swinging it over your head and you're pausing it out in front, swinging it overhead.

• 36:25Speaker 01

  Think about when you're doing jujitsu, you get your hand, your arm put over there and you have to, that strength.

• 36:30Joe Rogan?

  It's never in like bench press position.

• 36:31Speaker 01

  Never, you're never like pushing perfectly, you're always in like weird.

• 36:35Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. That's why yoga's really good for jujitsu.

• 36:38Speaker 01

  I've been trying to do a little bit more of everything.

• 36:40Joe Rogan?

  Yoga's so good for you, man.

• 36:42Speaker 01

  Pilates, yoga.

• 36:44Joe Rogan?

  Pilates is surprisingly hard.

• 36:45Speaker 01

  Oh, it's one of the hardest things I've ever done. I actually fucking put the goddamn things on my ankles, I was laying on my back doing scissors.

• 36:52Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 36:53Speaker 01

  Don't tell anybody. But yeah, I was next to my wife.

• 36:57Joe Rogan?

  Tighten up that man pussy.

• 36:58Speaker 01

  Bro, my man pussy was like fucking that, it was like rock solid. And I told her, I was like, yo, this hurts my asshole, like, you're fucking literally making me work out a crazy muscle. And she's like, yep, yep, you feel it, right?

• 37:13Joe Rogan?

  You gotta go home with sore asshole. Ow. You're sitting on the bowl, ow.

• 37:18Speaker 01

  You gotta wear the donut, you gotta sit on the cushion.

• 37:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no. Remember those, people used to have those at their house? On the seat, they'd have that like cushiony.

• 37:26Speaker 01

  On the toilet seat?

• 37:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 37:28Speaker 01

  That one that we hit it, it goes.

• 37:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you remember that one?

• 37:30Speaker 01

  Pink. Grandma pink, oh my god. I just remember the smell of old ass coming of a toilet, like a grandma's ass or a grandfather's ass.

• 37:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, old.

• 37:43Speaker 01

  I remember my father's shit smell. Cause it always, yeah, you smell, he always would throw a cigarette in the toilet afterwards, so it smelled like a shitty cigarette.

• 37:55Joe Rogan?

  That was back in the day where everybody smoked in the house.

• 37:57Speaker 01

  Oh my god, we used to have a ring. He would sit and there was a ring up there from the Rothman Blues.

• 38:03Joe Rogan?

  What's a Rothman Blue?

• 38:04Speaker 01

  It was a fucking, yeah, English cigarette.

• 38:06Joe Rogan?

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• 39:34Joe Rogan?

  NOCO, the end of jumper cables. Use code ROGEN10 for 10% off select jump starters at N O dot C O. Isn't it crazy how doctors used to recommend cigarettes? You used to be able to buy cigarettes at a hospital? Oh yeah, I'd purchase them at hospitals with the thing. In bed, when the guy's in bed. Oh, you could buy them in like they would come around, like a six-year-old kid would come around with the thing? Like a lady would come by with like a box of different kinds of cigarettes in it and the guy was like picking out cigarettes that he could have while he's in his hospital bed. Damn, those were the days. See if you can find one of the pictures. Those are the days. I remember the pull machine was always my favorite when I got sent to the store to go do this, do that. Yeah, look at this. Oh wow. This has to be an ad, right?

• 40:19Joe Rogan?

  Is it an ad? That's the golden days. Or maybe it's a newspaper photograph or something like that? Was that Paul Mall?

• 40:27Joe Rogan?

  Another, nineteen fifty cigarettes remarking as being good for you. Look at the nurse is lighting this guy's cigarette.

• 40:33Speaker 01

  Happily. Well, he doesn't look sick. His hair is done nicely.

• 40:37Joe Rogan?

  So when did, when did people in Amer- we looked up this who figured out the first cigarette, didn't we?

• 40:42Speaker 00

  The same guy, different nurse.

• 40:44Joe Rogan?

  Oh, this is all bullshit.

• 40:45Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 40:45Joe Rogan?

  Maybe it's just one guy had a freaky nurse.

• 40:49Speaker 01

  This just reminds me of why, why is America so medicated? Why are we just so fucking medicated on everything and?

• 40:57Joe Rogan?

  Cause it works.

• 40:58Speaker 01

  Does it?

• 40:59Joe Rogan?

  I mean, it doesn't do what you want it to do, but like as far as like mental medications.

• 41:05Speaker 01

  That shit works?

• 41:06Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of stuff that works. Sure. Prozac has a legitimate effect on people. They get accustomed to it.

• 41:11Speaker 01

  Good or bad?

• 41:12Joe Rogan?

  Adderall. Depends on who and it depends on the dose. You know, it's like if you want to say good or bad. I know a lot of people that are very successful that use Adderall. Uh, I don't necessarily know if it's bad. I think it depends on who you are, whether or not you can just use it when you need it, like to write or something like that. I know journalists that use it. But if it's, uh, if it's one of those things that you're addicted to, like, uh, benzodiazepine, you know, like, uh.

• 41:40Speaker 01

  Michael Jackson?

• 41:41Joe Rogan?

  That, well, no.

• 41:42Speaker 01

  That was the Michael Jackson one?

• 41:43Joe Rogan?

  No, he had-

• 41:44Speaker 01

  Oh, that was the Latin.

• 41:45Joe Rogan?

  He, well, he died from being sedated. He died from propofol.

• 41:50Speaker 01

  Oh, he was just, and then pumped with other stuff.

• 41:53Joe Rogan?

  I don't think he could sleep at night. I think he was just so mentally ill.

• 41:58Speaker 01

  That's fucked.

• 41:58Joe Rogan?

  That guy was too famous, man.

• 42:01Speaker 01

  There's, there is, there is that level.

• 42:03Joe Rogan?

  Too famous.

• 42:04Speaker 01

  Wait, it's deep.

• 42:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and he also had a lot-

• 42:07Speaker 01

  Everyone on earth knows who Michael Jackson is.

• 42:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 42:10Speaker 01

  I don't think there's anyone who doesn't know who Michael Jackson is. Even now, if you're born now, you know who he is.

• 42:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I mean, he was so famous that even after all the sexual allegations, all of his music still played on the radio. It was so good.

• 42:25Speaker 01

  No one gives a fuck. Seriously.

• 42:27Joe Rogan?

  It was so good, no one's gonna pull it down. Right. Look, R. Kelly stuff, you barely hear it anymore.

• 42:31Speaker 01

  And, uh, I'm not gonna say anything.

• 42:34Joe Rogan?

  Please don't.

• 42:35Speaker 01

  I will not.

• 42:36Joe Rogan?

  Or do.

• 42:37Speaker 01

  He's a disgrace, I mean it's disgraceful, but his music was.

• 42:40Joe Rogan?

  Phenomenal.

• 42:40Speaker 01

  It was like, that changed motherfuckers, the whole vibe of R and B, like disgusting, unbelievable, nasty, disgraceful things.

• 42:50Joe Rogan?

  Right, but if you separate the artist from the art.

• 42:52Speaker 01

  And that's the fucking worst thing, you can't do that, you cannot say, that, it comes as a whole package.

• 42:57Joe Rogan?

  But my question is, how many of those guys were like that way back in the day?

• 43:03Joe Rogan?

  You know what I mean? Probably a lot.

• 43:04Speaker 01

  A large amount, you see the sickness. I don't understand why motherfuckers get a little bit of money and start doing weirdo shit. Like, I like to garden.

• 43:13Joe Rogan?

  Like island shit?

• 43:14Speaker 01

  Yeah. Like, I like gardening. I like stonemasonry. I like working out and cooking.

• 43:22Joe Rogan?

  Right, but why would? I'll tell you why.

• 43:24Speaker 01

  I'm obviously not on that level, but I don't see my mentality changing so far off where I'm fucking going to the island, you know?

• 43:30Joe Rogan?

  No, it's never gonna happen. But even if there was a new island, but the thing is, you made money by doing what you love. That's a very different kind of money. These people are just trying to make money. So when you're just trying to make money, it's all about experiences and items that you possess. So you wanna buy your own island, you want a jet, what else you want? You want a Ferrari, you want a bunch of shit?

• 43:54Speaker 01

  Things, things.

• 43:55Joe Rogan?

  You want things, and you keep getting more things, and you wanna do things that you're not supposed to do, like you wanna eat an endangered species. You know? There's like a restaurant in China, and they'll serve you tiger, they'll serve you, they'll serve you gorilla, like whatever, whatever you wanna eat. Endangered species.

• 44:10Speaker 01

  I mean, I've seen things.

• 44:11Joe Rogan?

  I don't know if this is true, but there was a story that was written about this place where you could go in China, and this is, see if you can find it. There's a story about, uh, like, it's one of those things where it's like a gather, it's not like a restaurant.

• 44:24Speaker 01

  It's a gathering.

• 44:25Joe Rogan?

  It's a gathering that happens like once every year or something like that, and they go and they would eat endangered species.

• 44:30Speaker 01

  Bro, I think I've seen.

• 44:31Joe Rogan?

  Which is fucking crazy.

• 44:33Speaker 01

  I know my.

• 44:33Joe Rogan?

  But that's a billionaire, crazy person, money thing, like, we're gonna go eat a tiger. You know what I mean?

• 44:38Speaker 01

  It's fucking ridiculous.

• 44:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's weird.

• 44:41Speaker 01

  I, I couldn't imagine, I couldn't imagine, like, I don't even like to hurt anything, I don't.

• 44:45Joe Rogan?

  Right, but that's because you're not that kind of a rich guy.

• 44:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:49Joe Rogan?

  You're a guy who made a bunch of money just by being himself. And that's a totally different enterprise than someone who's just trying to make a bunch of money. The people that are just trying to make a bunch of money, they're never happy. You're never satisfied.

• 45:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, they are. I mean, I don't know where anybody comes from, but I lived in a two fucking bedroom apartment my entire life. Up until recently. Still might, I still do.

• 45:12Joe Rogan?

  Here it is. Crackdown on menu for China's, China's animal eaters.

• 45:15Speaker 00

  This is from 2014 though, so they made a rule.

• 45:17Joe Rogan?

  I think that's it.

• 45:18Speaker 01

  Look at those fucking striations. Oh, no wonder, porcupine.

• 45:23Joe Rogan?

  They changed the law because of it?

• 45:24Speaker 00

  Well, to, I mean, I don't know if because of it, but that's why it's probably not talked about as much anymore.

• 45:32Joe Rogan?

  Uh, the diners of southern China have long had a reputation for exotic tastes. With locals sometimes boasting they will eat anything with four legs except a table. LOL.

• 45:45Speaker 01

  Fucking jerks.

• 45:46Joe Rogan?

  So pangolin, so pangolin's endangered, right? Is, are they endangered? Wasn't that one of the things that they thought was the wet market where?

• 45:54Speaker 00

  On top it says they had endangered tortoises and snakes and porcupines in cages.

• 46:00Joe Rogan?

  And imagine you're so nasty, you wanna eat an endangered snake? Eating a snake alone is gross, but you're so nasty, you wanna, you wanna eat an endangered snake?

• 46:09Speaker 01

  I've had snake soup. I was in, I was in Japan and I had fucking a good snake soup. It was smoked.

• 46:14Joe Rogan?

  Was it good?

• 46:15Speaker 01

  It tasted like beef.

• 46:17Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 46:17Speaker 01

  It did. It was supposed to be, you know.

• 46:20Joe Rogan?

  What kind of snake was it?

• 46:21Speaker 01

  Make you very versatile.

• 46:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, versatile.

• 46:24Speaker 01

  What's the word? Verbal.

• 46:26Joe Rogan?

  Versatile as well, right?

• 46:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. It was a black snake, of course.

• 46:32Joe Rogan?

  Ah, black snake. Um, was it a poisonous snake?

• 46:36Speaker 01

  That, I'm not sure. But there, there was a bunch, it was like, this was a Michelin star restaurant, two Michelin star, and of course, it was like French, Japanese creations and fucking, uh, quite endangered.

• 46:52Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 46:53Speaker 01

  As endangered as I could get.

• 46:56Joe Rogan?

  Endangered?

• 46:57Speaker 01

  A little turtle, a little snake.

• 46:58Joe Rogan?

  But some turtles are not endangered.

• 47:00Speaker 01

  I know, but I don't, I don't even like to do it. It's fucking, it's just, it turns me off. It turns.

• 47:05Joe Rogan?

  Dude, I used to have turtles as pets. I used to have turtles and at one point in time I had piranhas. Uh, turtles are way more psychotic than piranhas. When I would feed my turtles, I'd feed my turtles goldfish and they'd swim around and grab the goldfish and just bite him in half.

• 47:22Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 47:23Joe Rogan?

  It was crazy to watch.

• 47:24Speaker 01

  They got those powerful jaws.

• 47:25Joe Rogan?

  And I'm looking at them, I'm like, of course, you're a little dinosaur. Just look at you. You look like a dinosaur. You have this crazy stegosaurus shell over your back. And you're swimming through the water.

• 47:36Speaker 01

  Some neck comes out like that.

• 47:38Joe Rogan?

  Dude, they were super aggressive. See if you can find videos of turtles fucking up, uh, goldfish.

• 47:45Speaker 01

  What about those big motherfuckers though?

• 47:45Joe Rogan?

  Dude, they grab them with their hands.

• 47:47Speaker 01

  Like the big snappers, big snapping turtles? Those are fucking like Bowser.

• 47:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, have you ever seen one in real life?

• 47:53Speaker 01

  I've, I've seen the big sea, like the big tortoise in Hawaii, but I've never seen a big snapping one.

• 47:59Joe Rogan?

  I saw like a medium one, not a real big one, but they look so freaky. Their fucking teeth or their, that beak thing, that mouth.

• 48:07Speaker 01

  Fucking jacked up neck too. That big fucking huge thing.

• 48:10Joe Rogan?

  Big fucking huge clamp down neck. What, there's one different type. What is that one really crazy looking snapping turtle? Is it a gar snapping turtle?

• 48:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think it is.

• 48:22Joe Rogan?

  I've never seen this one before.

• 48:24Speaker 01

  Whoa, what the fuck is that?

• 48:25Joe Rogan?

  Amata amata turtle?

• 48:27Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 48:28Joe Rogan?

  What the fuck kinda head is that? It's a triangle head.

• 48:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a UFO.

• 48:32Joe Rogan?

  With a weird nose.

• 48:34Speaker 01

  That's, that's weird.

• 48:36Joe Rogan?

  I've never seen that in my life.

• 48:37Speaker 01

  It's eating a goldfish too? There you go. Oh, he just swallows it whole. What a weird looking creature.

• 48:45Joe Rogan?

  If you told me yesterday that this didn't exist, I would have believed you. If you told me yesterday, this is AI.

• 48:51Speaker 01

  What's the reasoning that a lot of these, these species go flat heads?

• 48:57Joe Rogan?

  Hmm, good question.

• 48:58Speaker 00

  Mix in the bottom of the.

• 48:59Joe Rogan?

  Cause you've slipped right into the shell, I'm sure.

• 49:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, I guess so.

• 49:02Joe Rogan?

  I'm sure you fit better in the shell.

• 49:04Speaker 01

  You go hammerhead and heads like that and fucking stingrays and shit just turns flat, flounder.

• 49:10Joe Rogan?

  Right, that's a weird one. Two eyeballs on one side.

• 49:13Speaker 01

  What the fuck is that?

• 49:14Joe Rogan?

  So this is a very timid turtle eating the goldfish. He's just, the ones that I had, they swam after the goldfish and grabbed him.

• 49:23Speaker 01

  Look at this fucking thing.

• 49:24Joe Rogan?

  Whoa, alligator snapping turtle.

• 49:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's the one, alligator. This one is the one that turns into fucking Donatello.

• 49:32Joe Rogan?

  Look at the face on that fucker.

• 49:33Speaker 00

  See its tongue down there?

• 49:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Oh, so its tongue looks like a goldfish?

• 49:37Speaker 00

  A little worm.

• 49:38Joe Rogan?

  So it tricks him?

• 49:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:40Joe Rogan?

  Come get some, look. Oh, snap, nature's so evil. It gave me a lure in my mouth.

• 49:47Speaker 01

  Nature has no mercy, man.

• 49:48Joe Rogan?

  Nope.

• 49:49Speaker 01

  No mercy.

• 49:50Joe Rogan?

  No mercy.

• 49:51Speaker 00

  We were talking about smoking this, I saw this today, that UK has voted to ban anyone born after 2008 to be banned from smoking.

• 50:01Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 50:01Speaker 00

  It hasn't passed. It has to, it's.

• 50:03Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, I'm gonna light up a cigar.

• 50:07Speaker 00

  This pisses me off.

• 50:09Speaker 01

  That's a crazy one.

• 50:10Speaker 00

  I thought it was kinda fake when I saw it, but I looked it up, it's on, it's, there's articles about it. It's a draft law, they say, which doesn't mean it's an actual law yet, I think.

• 50:19Joe Rogan?

  I'm opening up a fresh box for them. Fuck you. That's crazy. But that's just, we were talking about this yesterday.

• 50:27Speaker 01

  They love, they love having their fucking, their thumb on you.

• 50:30Joe Rogan?

  It's government. It's like when they expand government, they gotta give government something to do, so what do they do? They come up with more rules and regulations, and they come up with more people to enforce those rules and regulations. Even if they don't make any sense.

• 50:42Speaker 01

  Pass this, pass that, I gotta fucking, everyone has an idea. Every new politician has their ideas.

• 50:48Joe Rogan?

  And they all wanna fucking control you. That's what they wanna do, more than anything, they wanna control you. That's their favorite sport. Their favorite sport is telling you what to do.

• 50:57Speaker 01

  I just had, I had a beautiful dinner with, uh, with our mayor of New York, Mamdani.

• 51:02Joe Rogan?

  How is he? Do you like him?

• 51:03Speaker 01

  He was, he's thirty-four years old, bro. I've, I've never thought that I'd be sitting at a table with a mayor who's younger than me and knows about fucking rap. And like.

• 51:12Joe Rogan?

  Didn't he rap for a while?

• 51:14Speaker 01

  I don't acknowledge that.

• 51:19Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious.

• 51:20Speaker 01

  No, but he's, you know, he's a very nice guy, you know, we had a nice dinner. I, I didn't speak politic, I'm not really one of those guys, we just talked shit.

• 51:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 51:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, but what the fuck do I know? I don't know shit.

• 51:31Joe Rogan?

  I don't know shit either.

• 51:31Speaker 01

  Exactly, so.

• 51:32Joe Rogan?

  The thing that I would always be most concerned is who's financing him, what is their agenda? What are they trying to get him to do? Because it's always money, it's always about money. People are discovering New York City Mamdani's rap past.

• 51:46Speaker 01

  Crazy picture, right?

• 51:47Joe Rogan?

  He's rapping with an apron on, what's that about?

• 51:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:51Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 51:52Speaker 01

  It's a wild one.

• 51:53Joe Rogan?

  Shame the guy for his mistakes of the past? Let's just, you know, he's just doing some wild stuff, like with taxes and things, like he's trying to tax these billionaires.

• 52:03Speaker 01

  I saw that, what I'd like him to do is.

• 52:05Joe Rogan?

  Want one of these, brother?

• 52:06Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, sure, why not? What I'd like him to do is fucking help alleviate, thank you, senor.

• 52:14Speaker 01

  Help alleviate taxes for people who are born and raised New Yorkers. I shouldn't have to pay for everyone else's bullshit.

• 52:21Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 52:21Speaker 01

  At least give me a little break.

• 52:23Joe Rogan?

  Not just that, but they should be responsible with where the tax dollars go. So, before asking you for more taxes, clean up all the fraud.

• 52:31Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 52:32Joe Rogan?

  That's not a fucking big request, that's like a pretty, pretty simple thing to ask for. But nobody says that, all they ever say is, "We need to tax you more."

• 52:41Speaker 01

  This year was a mess, he came into all of us when it was a shitstorm of literal horrible weather. And the fucking city was an honest garbage hole, it was a shit mess.

• 52:52Joe Rogan?

  It got real bad with snow, right?

• 52:53Speaker 01

  Fucking seven feet high piles of garbage, like disgrace.

• 52:57Joe Rogan?

  Now, why was that?

• 52:58Speaker 01

  Because, I don't know.

• 53:01Speaker 01

  I would say the union rep wasn't allowing the workers to fucking go and clean shit.

• 53:07Joe Rogan?

  I love your honesty.

• 53:08Speaker 01

  When they're at odds, listen, I don't know, I'm not, I'd like to get to the bottom of this.

• 53:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't know either.

• 53:15Speaker 01

  You know, when they're at odds, they're at odds.

• 53:17Joe Rogan?

  Well, so there was a union strike?

• 53:19Speaker 01

  They don't allow, they don't allow any of the sanitation people to move a muscle unless their union rep says it's okay. You go and sit in the fucking truck and take a nap until we tell you to move.

• 53:31Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 53:33Speaker 01

  That's, there's always a-

• 53:34Joe Rogan?

  I'm with them.

• 53:34Speaker 01

  Me too.

• 53:35Joe Rogan?

  Listen, I'm with them, because out of all the fraud that's existing in that city, all the waste that they've showed, that is one thing you should fucking pay people for, cuz the job sucks, okay? And it's super necessary.

• 53:48Speaker 01

  It's the most necessary job.

• 53:49Joe Rogan?

  To close Jorge Masvidal.

• 53:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, super necessary.

• 53:52Joe Rogan?

  You fucking have to pick up the garbage, goddamn it, pay those fucking people. I mean, are they asking for unreasonable amounts? When you find out how much money you spent on the fucking homeless situation and it never got better at all? Who's, what are they getting, I bet they're getting paid more than the garbage people.

• 54:05Speaker 01

  I'm sure, but they, they get good pension, everyone, everyone works for a pension. It's all for security, pension, there's fucking dental, how many times are you gonna do dental?

• 54:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but you should also get paid, if you're fucking, if you're moving garbage, you should get paid well. Period. And for people to go, oh, it's an unskilled job, that's a backbreaking job. You're slinging around bags all day and picking up cans and yanking on levers.

• 54:33Speaker 01

  Far from unskilled.

• 54:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 54:34Speaker 01

  You try and drive that fucking truck.

• 54:36Joe Rogan?

  It's also dangerous, you're hanging off the back of the truck sometimes, you're out there in the weather. It's fucking hard, you could hurt your back, it's fucking hard, it's a hard job, they should get paid well. And anybody doesn't think that is a cunt.

• 54:52Speaker 01

  But that's the thing about this world. Everybody's greedy. They want it all for themselves.

• 54:57Speaker 00

  One thing they're doing, I just found online, they're adding these giant bins, which maybe is better than piles, but.

• 55:05Speaker 01

  My boy, they're always adding these fucking bins.

• 55:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but the problem with that is.

• 55:09Speaker 01

  Goddamn Eric Adams made you buy a hundred dollar garbage can for your house back in the day from his cousin.

• 55:14Joe Rogan?

  The problem.

• 55:15Speaker 01

  This is what I was told from my man in Middle Village.

• 55:17Joe Rogan?

  How much?

• 55:18Speaker 01

  Hundred dollars. My boy Connie Gorge told me, hundred dollars. You have to buy a fucking new garbage can for your house, one way or another, no matter what, from Eric Adams' cousin.

• 55:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really? Show that again, Jamie.

• 55:31Speaker 01

  Hundred dollars.

• 55:32Joe Rogan?

  So that actually makes more sense, though, that they're doing this big, because that also probably. The problem is if it does keep the rats out, then one of the rats is gonna eat, then you're gonna have a bigger rat problem. New York's got a fucking giant rat problem.

• 55:46Speaker 01

  I've been seeing less lately.

• 55:48Joe Rogan?

  Because they're hiding.

• 55:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've been seeing less. Well, it's about to be summertime, so they're gonna come out. Once again, if they pick the fucking garbage up, there'll be less rat.

• 55:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but.

• 55:58Speaker 01

  If they stop doing all the construction, I mean, that's what breeds these rats to come out.

• 56:03Joe Rogan?

  For sure.

• 56:04Speaker 01

  You're digging these fucks up. You're disturbing their house.

• 56:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but they rely on people to eat. The thing is, it's a completely, uh, coexisting, like the.

• 56:15Speaker 01

  Like those monkeys in the Philippines.

• 56:17Joe Rogan?

  It's an ecosystem. The rats and the people are an ecosystem, because the rats eat human garbage. And they live piled up around humans for a reason, so they could eat our garbage. And during the pandemic, it was a real fucking problem, because no one was going to restaurants for a while, so the rats were everywhere. They're freaking out.

• 56:33Speaker 01

  It was fucked up.

• 56:34Joe Rogan?

  They're eating each other. Rats do eat each other. I had a rat eat its, eat, well, a bunch of rats, ate a dead rat in my garage once. Yeah, he died, big fat rat too. He died, I heard the trap go off, but it was like ten o'clock at night, I was like fuck it, I'll deal with it in the morning. I got up in the morning, there was nothing left but his tail.

• 56:53Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 56:53Joe Rogan?

  There was like some skin, the feet and the tail, they ate his entire body.

• 56:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, nah, there was a whole, like, garage full, like, one of those, uh, I don't know, like, a storage space, but in the street.

• 57:05Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 57:06Speaker 01

  You just heard them. Fucking the gate would be knocking back and forth, like they're having a goddamn underground fucking strike force in there.

• 57:15Joe Rogan?

  That's why when people get upset about coyotes, listen.

• 57:18Speaker 01

  Bro, I heard them recently.

• 57:20Joe Rogan?

  You need them.

• 57:21Speaker 01

  Bro, the fucking pack of coyotes howling and screaming during feeding.

• 57:26Joe Rogan?

  In New York City.

• 57:27Speaker 01

  Well, upstate.

• 57:28Joe Rogan?

  They do it in New York City too, they find them in, uh, the Central Park.

• 57:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, like an hour and a half away, was really something else.

• 57:35Joe Rogan?

  A lot of them up there. But you need them, otherwise you're gonna have rats everywhere. Like, there's a balance to all this shit, just don't leave your cat outside.

• 57:42Speaker 01

  No, I saw a fucking owl like this outside.

• 57:45Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 57:46Speaker 01

  Fucking in the daytime.

• 57:48Joe Rogan?

  What is this?

• 57:50Speaker 00

  Rats hiding, I think this was, uh...

• 57:51Speaker 01

  Oh, yes, my, they fucking...

• 57:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, they hide in your engine.

• 57:53Speaker 01

  Bro, rat ate my fucking boy's BMW engine, all the wiring.

• 57:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, they chewed up all the, the insulation?

• 58:07Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's just, that's not dead rats, right? What is that?

• 58:12Speaker 00

  It's not alive ones.

• 58:13Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that the stuff, though? I think that's the stuff of the ceiling.

• 58:16Speaker 00

  Okay, yeah, I think...

• 58:18Joe Rogan?

  I think it's the insulation above the roof of the, uh...

• 58:21Speaker 00

  Alright.

• 58:21Joe Rogan?

  Above the engine. It's just they nested in this guy's place.

• 58:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, this says that the, the trash bins are gonna get rid of a lot of the...

• 58:31Speaker 01

  How the fuck did they...

• 58:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but you're not gonna lower, the thing is, didn't we figure out that the number of rats in New York City is pretty similar to the number of people?

• 58:41Speaker 01

  I would, I would probably say it out, it outdoes it. How could you, it's just so small, they fucking.

• 58:46Joe Rogan?

  They don't really know, but someone had told me that the biomass of rats was the same as the biomass of people in New York City, meaning the weight. But we looked that up and that doesn't seem to be true.

• 58:56Speaker 01

  But if it's true, then it's much, it takes much more to make up one human being, so there's gonna be ten times more.

• 59:02Joe Rogan?

  Sometimes people read things or write things down and it's just not accurate. Uh, cause like, there are a lot of cases where small things have a crazy biomass. Like I think the biomass of ants is similar to the biomass of human beings on Earth.

• 59:20Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 59:22Joe Rogan?

  Find out if that's true. Put that into perplexity.

• 59:24Speaker 01

  You ever see the ants that have that little honey butt? They have a little ball of honey on their ass?

• 59:29Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I have seen that. What's that for?

• 59:30Speaker 01

  It's to taste. It's to be delicious.

• 59:33Joe Rogan?

  Come get some.

• 59:34Speaker 01

  Give me that fucking ass.

• 59:35Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if ladies started having that? That's the new thing?

• 59:38Speaker 01

  I'd eat so much ass.

• 59:39Joe Rogan?

  No nose ring? Now they just have a, a honey pot on their ass?

• 59:43Speaker 01

  That's how you capture me.

• 59:44Joe Rogan?

  Look at this. Oh, ants on Earth together have about twenty percent of the biomass of all humans when measured as dry carbon mass. Okay. What about insects in general? Maybe that's where they fucked up.

• 1:00:00Joe Rogan?

  Do insect, what is the biomass of all insects compared to the biomass of people?

• 1:00:08Speaker 01

  What are you typing this in? What is this? What?

• 1:00:10Joe Rogan?

  Our lovely AI sponsor, perplexity.

• 1:00:12Speaker 01

  Oh, beautiful.

• 1:00:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. On a global scale, total biomass of all insects is several times larger than human biomass. Wow. Fuck that.

• 1:00:22Speaker 01

  And all this is Smithsonian.

• 1:00:24Joe Rogan?

  Bugs.

• 1:00:25Speaker 01

  I love fucking bugs.

• 1:00:26Joe Rogan?

  Do you?

• 1:00:27Speaker 01

  I love bugs.

• 1:00:28Joe Rogan?

  We're lucky they're little.

• 1:00:29Speaker 01

  I know, you're right. There's, there's a real like, uh, there's a, there's a generous amount of species up where I'm at and I really enjoy them recently. You can't be upset at them because if the area was unhealthy, they wouldn't be there.

• 1:00:43Joe Rogan?

  Well, you're in upstate?

• 1:00:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:44Joe Rogan?

  Upstate's beautiful, but um, check yourself for ticks.

• 1:00:47Speaker 01

  Oh, I do all the time. I do.

• 1:00:50Joe Rogan?

  Upstate's got a lot of lime.

• 1:00:51Speaker 01

  He got, he got bit by a tick recently. He caught it three days later. He already had it, but he's good now.

• 1:00:57Joe Rogan?

  Did he go and immediately get the antibiotics?

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:59Joe Rogan?

  That's what you gotta do. When you get that Lyme disease, you gotta get it.

• 1:01:02Speaker 01

  Where do you think they usually capture you? Like around the crevasses?

• 1:01:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like your legs, your ankles.

• 1:01:08Speaker 01

  Oh, that's fine.

• 1:01:08Joe Rogan?

  Where they climb up on your pants.

• 1:01:09Speaker 01

  But as long as they don't go up in the fucking Netherlands. Yeah, the Netherlands.

• 1:01:13Joe Rogan?

  That would suck. But I think it's a systemic issue, more than it is the initial bite. The bite, though, eh, to know that if you got Lyme disease, a couple days after the infection, it starts getting like a bullseye around it. And that to a lot of people is, uh, that's the, the big sign that you've got Lyme disease. But sometimes when they get to the doctor, that circle's gone. And the doctor doesn't believe him. I've had this happen to a friend of mine, who's a very smart guy. And him and his son both got Lyme disease and he couldn't get the fucking doctor to believe that it was Lyme disease. Until his kid started getting, um, what's that mouth thing? Guillain-Barre? How do you say that? Guillain-Barre syndrome? Is that what you say? Julian? You say Julian? Yeah, man. Guillain-Barre syndrome?

• 1:01:55Speaker 01

  When it was shit like.

• 1:01:56Joe Rogan?

  Your fa- half your face gets paralyzed.

• 1:01:58Speaker 01

  Oh, fucking, uh, Bell's palsy.

• 1:02:00Joe Rogan?

  Right, but there's a name for it. I think it's Guillain-Barre is very similar because I knew a guy who had that and it was the same thing and he was diagnosed with Guillain-Barre.

• 1:02:12Speaker 01

  Does it go back or is it?

• 1:02:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it, it went back. Dice Clay had it for a while.

• 1:02:17Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:02:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Dice Clay had half of his face and he was going on stage with it. He didn't give a fuck. Guillain-Barre syndrome, facial weakness or paralysis.

• 1:02:24Speaker 01

  I bet you no one even noticed.

• 1:02:26Joe Rogan?

  With Dice, he talked about it. He brought it up.

• 1:02:28Speaker 01

  It was pretty obvious. That's what I'm saying. He was just fucking talking like that.

• 1:02:31Joe Rogan?

  It was pretty obvious. Like, half his face was like this. It was crazy. Half his face just wouldn't move.

• 1:02:35Speaker 01

  Fuck.

• 1:02:36Joe Rogan?

  No?

• 1:02:38Speaker 01

  Not good.

• 1:02:41Speaker 01

  Fucking shit happens, man. You gotta just deal with things as they come.

• 1:02:44Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:02:45Speaker 01

  You can't really like, who the fuck knows what this world is about and why things happen, bro?

• 1:02:49Joe Rogan?

  Be careful of ticks.

• 1:02:50Speaker 01

  Yeah. Cause those bitches.

• 1:02:53Joe Rogan?

  They're trying to get you. And those little fuckers, a large percentage of them on the east coast carry Lyme disease.

• 1:02:58Speaker 01

  For sure. For sure. They're diseased little pricks. I spray myself with a nice geranium spray.

• 1:03:06Joe Rogan?

  Geranium?

• 1:03:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's an elixir. There's like a natural lavender, geranium oil, all kinds of shit that you spray on yourself that.

• 1:03:13Joe Rogan?

  Are you sure that doesn't make them wanna bite you more?

• 1:03:15Speaker 01

  No, no, it repels.

• 1:03:16Joe Rogan?

  For sure?

• 1:03:17Speaker 01

  It brings other things, but it takes those guys away.

• 1:03:20Joe Rogan?

  It brings them ankle bracelets?

• 1:03:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, bro, I got ankle bracelets and fucking, and Brahma bull nose ring.

• 1:03:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:29Speaker 01

  When I was in Mexico City, I was dressed, I had, I bought a fucking jade, like Yade. It's from over there, bought a jade necklace that was a little bit too tight. So it looked like a choker.

• 1:03:40Joe Rogan?

  Like a dog?

• 1:03:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, my boy told me I looked like I had my nipple pierced in the picture that I showed him. Yeah, I looked like a fucking bear. I had circular glasses. A scruff. You could see a little bit of this scruff. Two, two chokers.

• 1:03:57Joe Rogan?

  Ooh.

• 1:03:58Speaker 01

  This is what I'm saying, you act different on vacation. I had two, I had a fucking amber choker and a jade choker.

• 1:04:04Joe Rogan?

  You would be killing it in the bear community. If you ever wanna switch teams, you would dominate the bear, the bear community. Right?

• 1:04:11Speaker 01

  Just do it for fun, like fuck it. We'll fuck some guys up, what's up?

• 1:04:16Joe Rogan?

  What were we just asking? What was the question?

• 1:04:20Joe Rogan?

  You didn't, I thought, I thought I had a question. I forgot.

• 1:04:24Speaker 01

  You got all off track with that comment.

• 1:04:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's bear talk. Bear talk always gets.

• 1:04:28Speaker 01

  Bear talk 101.

• 1:04:29Joe Rogan?

  What were we just talking about before that, though?

• 1:04:32Speaker 01

  Uh, bugs.

• 1:04:34Joe Rogan?

  Right. Bugs, oh, ticks, Lyme disease.

• 1:04:38Speaker 01

  Guillain-Barre.

• 1:04:40Joe Rogan?

  There's another one that's out now. There's another disease that's out that people are getting called Alpha Gal. And it's from a tick called the Lone Star Tick, and it makes you allergic to red meat.

• 1:04:51Joe Rogan?

  That's one, that one you can get, my friend.

• 1:04:53Speaker 01

  Nah, that's fucked up.

• 1:04:54Joe Rogan?

  That is not for you.

• 1:04:55Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:04:56Joe Rogan?

  That would ruin everything in your life.

• 1:04:58Speaker 01

  So many fucking bone infillets, it's been crazy.

• 1:05:00Joe Rogan?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:05:01Speaker 01

  I need those gains. There's no other gains like that, right? Bison, I've been eating a lot of like gains things, I guess.

• 1:05:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, wild game is the best for that.

• 1:05:13Speaker 01

  Sweet potatoes and game.

• 1:05:15Joe Rogan?

  There you go, sweet potatoes, phenomenal.

• 1:05:17Speaker 01

  That's that, that's what I s- I exchanged the pasta for the sweet potato.

• 1:05:21Joe Rogan?

  Uh, you, uh, do you eat rice?

• 1:05:23Speaker 01

  A little bit, a touch, a touch.

• 1:05:26Joe Rogan?

  I hear conflicting, uh, conflicting things, I like it.

• 1:05:29Speaker 01

  Uh, white rice.

• 1:05:30Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of things that I eat that I like, I just eat them because I like it. Like when I'm eating spaghetti, I'm under no illusion.

• 1:05:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, you know what you're eating.

• 1:05:37Joe Rogan?

  I know what I'm doing, I'm not under an illusion.

• 1:05:39Speaker 01

  You like a good pasta, I know that.

• 1:05:41Joe Rogan?

  I do, I do.

• 1:05:41Speaker 01

  Evan Funk pasta, right?

• 1:05:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. That dude, that dude can cook.

• 1:05:47Speaker 01

  I had him, I had him on my show early on, like before his like, his, his success and just kicked it off, I loved his, uh, he's a fucking trip.

• 1:05:55Joe Rogan?

  He's the man, and he is aficionado, yeah.

• 1:05:59Speaker 01

  And we like, there's, there's another guy, Stefan Secci in New York. Oh my gosh, Stefano Secci is another sicko. Make amazing al Materano, you know, it's all about the wooden dowel, that's how they make the pasta. It's all old style. Nothing extruded, all with the thing.

• 1:06:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, Evan's places, you could watch them make the pasta. Shh, you know, like mother, he's got Mother Wolf, he's got Funk, is it Funky or Funk? How do you, how do you pronounce that?

• 1:06:29Speaker 01

  I have no idea, I call him Funk, it's like Terry Funk.

• 1:06:31Joe Rogan?

  Right, probably Funk.

• 1:06:33Speaker 01

  I thought he was Terry Funk's cousin.

• 1:06:35Joe Rogan?

  They're making tortellini here?

• 1:06:37Speaker 01

  No, that's, that's, that's Stefano.

• 1:06:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, look how good that looks.

• 1:06:41Speaker 01

  This man right here, when I went to Ostoria Francescana in Modena, you know?

• 1:06:46Joe Rogan?

  I love how you said that.

• 1:06:48Speaker 01

  Massimo Baturo's place, it was like the number one restaurant for many years. He was the chef there that was making all the food, he was like a young man. And then when he opened his restaurant, Res Dora in New York, it was like. He takes such good care of my mother as well, like yo, he, they, they just go above and beyond.

• 1:07:06Joe Rogan?

  Bro, this is art, this is art. Like, the way he's making this food, this is art. This is a work of art. He's performing art.

• 1:07:12Speaker 01

  Who'd I have? I had fucking Devin Haney in the kitchen with me making pasta with him.

• 1:07:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 1:07:17Speaker 01

  It was cra- you know, I like to bring these guys in and do weird things.

• 1:07:22Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy. That's awesome.

• 1:07:24Speaker 01

  Devin Haney making pa- bro, Yuri, bro.

• 1:07:28Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 1:07:29Speaker 01

  Holy fucking shit.

• 1:07:31Joe Rogan?

  Crazy.

• 1:07:32Speaker 01

  What an animal.

• 1:07:34Joe Rogan?

  Well, I mean.

• 1:07:35Speaker 01

  How ridiculous, that was so, it's like.

• 1:07:37Joe Rogan?

  It's, you kind of gotta look at it two ways.

• 1:07:39Speaker 01

  Like, oh shit, yeah.

• 1:07:41Joe Rogan?

  You gotta look at it two ways. One, you gotta look at it from Yuri's perspective, like he had it there, the fight was over, the guy was hurt. And it, but you also look at it from Carlos's perspective. Carlos Olberg is hurt, he can't move his right leg, they're probably gonna stop it in between rounds. And Yuri is, he can't move, so Yuri's just pot shotting him, and he's kicking his one good leg. He's kicking his one good leg, and then boom, he clips him with a left hook.

• 1:08:09Speaker 01

  I mean, with the, with the one punch that he's known for.

• 1:08:12Joe Rogan?

  Not just that.

• 1:08:13Speaker 01

  Step back hook.

• 1:08:14Joe Rogan?

  The one punch that you can throw if your right leg is hurt, a check hook.

• 1:08:18Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 1:08:19Joe Rogan?

  Cause when you, the, the check hook is one of the, like Alexander Volkanovsky actually did a really good breakdown of this on YouTube. But what he was talking about is of the check hook, you put all the weight on the front leg a lot. Because as the person's coming, a lot of the weight, as you uncork the punch, is on that front leg. And Olberg's, that's a snake, like the way he throws that left hook is so fast.

• 1:08:42Speaker 01

  It's perfect.

• 1:08:42Joe Rogan?

  And he, it was the perfect punch?

• 1:08:44Speaker 01

  He threw one just to get the, just to get the, the, the, the.

• 1:08:48Joe Rogan?

  The distance.

• 1:08:48Speaker 01

  The distance on the first one, and then clipped him again.

• 1:08:51Joe Rogan?

  Perfect.

• 1:08:52Speaker 01

  But Yuri, man.

• 1:08:52Joe Rogan?

  So Yuri's saying.

• 1:08:53Speaker 01

  It looked like, I, I watched, I, I know you were watching as well, watching in real time, but it just looked like he got upset. That he hurt his knee and he was like, fuck, fuck.

• 1:09:01Joe Rogan?

  He clearly did get upset. I really do think that he got upset. I do think that's true.

• 1:09:07Speaker 01

  But it makes no difference on.

• 1:09:09Joe Rogan?

  It doesn't matter, Carlos got him.

• 1:09:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, Carlos.

• 1:09:10Joe Rogan?

  Got him, he fucked up.

• 1:09:12Speaker 01

  That's a clean win.

• 1:09:12Joe Rogan?

  But that's part, yeah, it's part of fighting, like you have to be ruthless, like Khalil Roundtree is one of the nicest guys you're ever gonna meet. When he fought Modestus Bukakis, he sidekicked his knee sideways.

• 1:09:24Speaker 01

  That was one of the crazy guys, nuts.

• 1:09:26Joe Rogan?

  And Khalil is one of the nicest guys alive, but.

• 1:09:29Speaker 01

  I remember early on.

• 1:09:31Joe Rogan?

  He's trying to do it to you, you're trying to do it to him, and if his leg gets blown out, you have to take advantage of it, cause he would take advantage of it on you.

• 1:09:37Speaker 01

  I've been watching for a long time, I've been watching Khalil for a long time, since the beginning, I remember the change when he went to Thailand, right, there was this change, he came back from Thailand and he, that's what he did. That was his first fight, he was fucking.

• 1:09:51Joe Rogan?

  The first fight was Eric Anders.

• 1:09:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, and he looked totally different.

• 1:09:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, me and DC were like, what happened?

• 1:09:57Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:09:58Joe Rogan?

  Cause he was always good.

• 1:09:59Speaker 01

  With the front leg and just like all Thai movements.

• 1:10:01Joe Rogan?

  Super sharp. He was super sharp.

• 1:10:04Speaker 01

  That was nuts.

• 1:10:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. So that's it.

• 1:10:07Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 1:10:09Joe Rogan?

  So horrible to watch.

• 1:10:10Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 1:10:12Joe Rogan?

  Sidekick to the knee. Just blew his shit apart, that guy was out for over a year.

• 1:10:16Speaker 01

  I mean, that's one of the gnarliest.

• 1:10:19Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's so nasty when you see it sideways.

• 1:10:21Speaker 01

  Oh, because it started at the thigh.

• 1:10:24Joe Rogan?

  I don't wanna see it, Jamie, stop, stop, stop, stop.

• 1:10:26Speaker 01

  Oh, bro, it started at the thigh.

• 1:10:28Joe Rogan?

  Some, um, Khalil Roundtree versus Eric Anders. So Eric Anders is one of the toughest fucking human beings to ever live.

• 1:10:36Speaker 01

  For sure.

• 1:10:36Joe Rogan?

  Because he was getting lit up, his legs were getting destroyed, and he never even flinched. He never even made an owl face, it was never like, ah, there's nothing, he just dead stoic the entire time, and then I asked him afterwards, oh, fuck yeah, that shit hurt.

• 1:10:52Speaker 01

  But guys like Eric Anders, he's been in, he's been in UFC for ten years.

• 1:10:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:56Speaker 01

  Decent career.

• 1:10:57Joe Rogan?

  Super smart guy.

• 1:10:58Speaker 01

  But he, you know.

• 1:10:59Joe Rogan?

  Invested his money, bought a bunch of houses.

• 1:11:00Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 1:11:01Joe Rogan?

  Very clever.

• 1:11:01Speaker 01

  Oh, that's great.

• 1:11:02Joe Rogan?

  Very smart, yeah, he's, he's smart.

• 1:11:04Speaker 01

  That's good to know.

• 1:11:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's planning, and he's just a cool dude to talk to, but when Khalil came, like, we were looking at him, it's like, he's moving like a tie, like the hand movements, everything.

• 1:11:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, he came back totally different.

• 1:11:15Joe Rogan?

  That light front foot.

• 1:11:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:17Joe Rogan?

  Like full on Muay Thai and Khalil's always been super fast. Like one of his strengths is that he can hit guys before they even calculate. Like his speed when he's like really going after you like in the Jamal Hill fight. He's got speed that confuses guys because they're like, oh shit, like you gotta recalibrate. Because this guy moves faster than any of the middleweights.

• 1:11:38Speaker 01

  Nasty elbows and he's nasty like just.

• 1:11:42Joe Rogan?

  He's like, well, I shouldn't say to any middleweight, but he moves like a middleweight. That's what I should say. He's got like middleweight speed, but a light heavyweight frame.

• 1:11:51Joe Rogan?

  And he just started lighting them up with like pure Thai technique. And this was the perfect kind of showcase for him because Eric's not like a big wrestler.

• 1:12:00Speaker 01

  He's gonna stand there with you.

• 1:12:01Joe Rogan?

  A brawler.

• 1:12:02Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:12:02Joe Rogan?

  And with a guy like Khalil, especially since Eric fights southpaw. So when you fight southpaw and Khalil fight southpaw, it really opens up that left leg to get attacked. Or the right leg, excuse me, to get attacked. Because your power leg is behind you, whereas you're fighting normal people that are orthodox. It's usually you have to kick him with an inside kick. If you're a southpaw, but southpaw to southpaw like this Khalil just can light that leg on fire.

• 1:12:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it was fucking, it was, but it was the sound it was making. Like when we were there, it was like slap.

• 1:12:35Speaker 01

  This was memorably different.

• 1:12:38Joe Rogan?

  Well, he had just gotten really tuned in, man. When he was in Thailand, he got really tuned in. Particularly, oh, you already got it in the second round. It's particularly the first round.

• 1:12:46Speaker 01

  Before this, right, which made him go there, which made him go to Thailand?

• 1:12:49Joe Rogan?

  Johnny Walker.

• 1:12:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:50Joe Rogan?

  So Johnny Walker clipped him with an elbow from in the clinch. He hit him with a Thai elbow and KO'd him.

• 1:12:56Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:12:56Joe Rogan?

  Back when Johnny Walker was like very explosive and Johnny Walker was uh very wild. He fought wild. He fights more calculated now.

• 1:13:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, after, I mean, I feel like after the worm, it was a wrap. After he hurt himself.

• 1:13:09Joe Rogan?

  I know, I know. That worm thing was crazy, that one thing.

• 1:13:12Speaker 01

  Like the shoulder is one of the worst things to hurt and then get surgery on it. It never comes back, right?

• 1:13:16Joe Rogan?

  He blew it apart, too.

• 1:13:17Speaker 01

  Blew, doing the fucking, it was just fucking.

• 1:13:19Joe Rogan?

  Doing the worm. Yeah, being, just have, you know, having a good time. I think that was, was that Misha or Kornov? I don't know who he fought dur- during that fight, but it was, he fought a good guy. And it's like Johnny Walker, when he was winning i- in the early days of his fights in the UFC, he was ju- yeah, it's Zirkunov, right? Yeah, like that kinda shit, like these flying elbows, like wild reckless. But he got KO'd a few times by some really technical people. And then he tried to be, yeah, right there. Like he fucked his elbow or his shoulder up.

• 1:13:54Speaker 01

  I've jumped on the bed like that and it hurt my fucking arm. You know, when you jump on the bed.

• 1:13:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he blew it apart. You forget that your arm is connected. And like immediately blew his shoulder out.

• 1:14:05Speaker 01

  Oh, god, it's so silly. Fucking horrible. Look at him. Looks like he KO'd himself.

• 1:14:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you could see it pop out.

• 1:14:11Speaker 01

  Terrible, bro. Terrible. Some people just shoot themselves in the dick.

• 1:14:16Joe Rogan?

  I know, they do. Yeah, there's a lot of people that do. A lot of people ruin their, their life for no fucking reason. They can't help it.

• 1:14:24Speaker 01

  I go through life trying not to shoot myself in the dick.

• 1:14:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, me too. It's like one of my cardinal rules.

• 1:14:29Speaker 01

  Cardinal.

• 1:14:30Joe Rogan?

  I think everybody should abide by that. Don't shoot yourself in the dick, if you can avoid it.

• 1:14:34Speaker 01

  If you can avoid it, if not, thank you, sir.

• 1:14:37Joe Rogan?

  You're welcome. But, uh, you know, fighters are wild people. They're doing a wild thing. Like it's part of what makes them great is that they take these crazy chances. They're just nuts.

• 1:14:47Speaker 01

  What am I, silly?

• 1:14:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you lift the top?

• 1:14:48Speaker 01

  Where?

• 1:14:49Joe Rogan?

  The top, top. It flips back. There you go. And then push that button up. There you go.

• 1:14:57Speaker 01

  I'm used to a torch.

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• 1:17:01Speaker 01

  I'm excited for this.

• 1:17:03Joe Rogan?

  With the Yuri thing was like, sorry.

• 1:17:05Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 1:17:05Joe Rogan?

  I was gonna say, but the Yuri thing was like, I understand his perspective. You know, that he did fuck up and he could have attacked and been smarter, but you can't. You can't have that excuse. He really was upset. You could tell he was upset right when Carlos Olberg's knee blew out. But here's the thing that impressed me the most.

• 1:17:24Speaker 01

  He's upset at him for fucking blowing his knee out. What are you gonna do?

• 1:17:26Joe Rogan?

  Well, he was upset at the moment, right? He wanted it to be a clean victory, right? But Carlos wasn't upset. That was what I was most impressed with. That guy never lost composure. He tried a switch kick, a jumping switch kick to the head.

• 1:17:38Speaker 01

  To see if it worked.

• 1:17:39Joe Rogan?

  And his leg fell out again and he fell down again and scrambled. But he never lost composure. He never showed anxiety in his face. Just a stone cold killer looking for his moment and he found it. Yup.

• 1:17:53Speaker 01

  CKB guys.

• 1:17:54Joe Rogan?

  It's a world champion. That's a world champion. I mean, that's how you really become a world champion. You have a blown out knee and you find a way to KO a guy who's this wild, aggressive, awkward dude. You know, and he's coming after you. You got a blown out knee and you just blink, perfect fucking left hook.

• 1:18:12Speaker 01

  Those guys from the South Pacific are a different breed.

• 1:18:15Joe Rogan?

  Well, he certainly is. I mean, he's.

• 1:18:17Speaker 01

  Just a lot of just mentality, I mean.

• 1:18:19Joe Rogan?

  Camp.

• 1:18:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The camp is unheard of.

• 1:18:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the camp is phenomenal. Eugene Bearman, the guy who's the head coach, super fucking smart dude.

• 1:18:28Speaker 01

  I went down there 2018. I went down there and I saw Izzy before the Brunson fight. And it was like in the old CKB and I had them come through and Eugene came out. I was DJing in New Zealand for an evening, my friend's restaurant and I had him come out. Yeah, it was dope.

• 1:18:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's cool. You were DJing in a restaurant?

• 1:18:50Speaker 01

  I was DJing. You know, I play all kinds of fucking weird like 70s funk, African music, Brazilian music. I just happened to be down there and everyone came through. It was a good time.

• 1:19:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh, here's something that people are saying is real. It's not, but I found out today. Everyone's saying that Hamzat Shumayev and Gordon Ryan are gonna wrestle. It's not true.

• 1:19:09Speaker 01

  RAF?

• 1:19:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:10Speaker 01

  I like RAF.

• 1:19:11Joe Rogan?

  I like RAF too.

• 1:19:12Speaker 01

  I like, I like this. It's like something new and exciting.

• 1:19:15Joe Rogan?

  Sure.

• 1:19:15Speaker 01

  I don't particularly love the action. I like wrestling. But it's not as exciting as the, like the entirety of the event. You understand?

• 1:19:26Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:19:26Speaker 01

  Like the press conference, the people involved, the actual moves. I prefer fighting and just like a different type of like combat. But it still gets me going. I enjoy it a lot.

• 1:19:39Joe Rogan?

  Look, it's the most important skill in MMA.

• 1:19:42Speaker 01

  It's the most important skill, but I like when you mix it. I don't like it singularly

• 1:19:46Joe Rogan?

  I understand.

• 1:19:46Speaker 01

  more than anything else.

• 1:19:48Joe Rogan?

  I understand, but the reality is, in order to be at an elite level, you have to do it by itself. I think for the most part.

• 1:19:56Speaker 01

  Hundred percent.

• 1:19:57Joe Rogan?

  George St. Pierre might be an example of a guy who violates that law. Because George didn't really wrestle in college or high school. He learned how to wrestle from a bunch of Russian nationals in Montreal.

• 1:20:08Speaker 01

  Well, that works also. If you didn't start wrestling when you're five years old, that's the other way to do it. Two, three years, Dagestan, that's it, right?

• 1:20:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, two, three years, Dagestan, and forget.

• 1:20:18Speaker 01

  And forget. I mean, but I'm excited, I'm excited for Hamzat and Sean Strickland, because I'm, he'll be in Newark, I'm gonna be there.

• 1:20:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, for sure, dog.

• 1:20:28Speaker 01

  I'll be right there.

• 1:20:29Joe Rogan?

  I'll be there, too.

• 1:20:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, you'll be there. The White House thing, I'm excited for, too. I wanna ask to go, but I don't know, it's just a lot, it seems like a lot of fucking hoopla. I might just watch it on TV.

• 1:20:40Joe Rogan?

  I would, I would watch that on TV if I wasn't working there. I think the, the Strickland and Hamzat fight is gonna be very interesting. Strickland is not an easy guy to take down, and he's not an easy guy to hold down. And he's a very difficult guy to hit on his feet. And he's got a super awkward style. His style is very clever, it's very different, it's not something that's easy to replicate in far as timing in the gym.

• 1:21:05Speaker 01

  He reminds me of B-Hop.

• 1:21:06Joe Rogan?

  A little bit, right?

• 1:21:07Speaker 01

  Right? He reminds me of like B-Hop, but just a little bit more slop, not sloppy, just a little bit more...

• 1:21:12Joe Rogan?

  Loose.

• 1:21:13Speaker 01

  Loose and wild.

• 1:21:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, loose and wild, and then also, it's because he has other options. Right? It's because he's kicking, it's because he's taking you down.

• 1:21:20Speaker 01

  His teep, those front kicks are great.

• 1:21:22Joe Rogan?

  His teep off his front legs, phenomenal.

• 1:21:24Speaker 01

  And he just throws good straight punches, man, just good, hard, straight punches.

• 1:21:27Joe Rogan?

  His fucking jab is so accurate. You, you know, people think of a jab as like, you know, it's not that big a deal. That guy thumps you in the face with a jab three, four times, you're kind of fucked. Your nose is broken, it's bleeding, or it's at least bleeding.

• 1:21:40Speaker 01

  Well, there's three kinds of jabs. There's the soft one, then there's that stepping, there's a fucking hard jab, you know, like, he throws them all.

• 1:21:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that, that guy, Azamat Mazakhanov.

• 1:21:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:21:50Joe Rogan?

  He, uh, he just lost to Paulo Costa.

• 1:21:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, Paulo fucked him up.

• 1:21:53Joe Rogan?

  But that guy has one of the most evil jabs. He like steps forward and he like jab hooks at you.

• 1:21:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, he turns that bitch off, yeah.

• 1:22:00Joe Rogan?

  It's almost like a hook.

• 1:22:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:02Joe Rogan?

  And he knocked out, um... Fuck, what is his name? Uh, uh, Rakic. He knocked out Rakic with that one punch, stepped in with a jab.

• 1:22:10Speaker 01

  Rakic's chin went a couple fights ago, but you know.

• 1:22:14Joe Rogan?

  Rakic is a, he's been in some wars. He's an animal. It was a good fight until that moment, but, uh, Mazurkanov, I was so impressed that he just wouldn't abandon that strategy of going after Paulo Costa.

• 1:22:27Speaker 01

  He's, I mean, Paulo looked good.

• 1:22:29Joe Rogan?

  He looked fucking phenomenal. If I was in his corner, I would say, dude, never go back to middleweight. You are a fucking light heavyweight champion.

• 1:22:36Speaker 01

  He's ridiculous. He's, yeah, 400%. He's ridiculous. One million percent.

• 1:22:40Joe Rogan?

  And while this guy, while Carlos Solberg is gonna be out for a year, cause he's gonna have to get ACL reconstruction.

• 1:22:46Speaker 01

  He had it already, right?

• 1:22:48Joe Rogan?

  Paulo Costa could be the interim light heavyweight champion. Like, no doubt, man. I really think he could pull that off. Dude, at light heavyweight, he's fucking terrifying.

• 1:22:56Speaker 01

  It's crazy to go through.

• 1:22:58Joe Rogan?

  He looks like the Paulo Costa of old. When he was, when he was destroying people on his way up to the ranks, man.

• 1:23:03Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying. Like, to see him go from there and then to like have those little hiccups and shit like that. And it almost seemed like he was a joke at one point, when Izzy humped him, made it, just made him look fucking so less than as a human being. When he's really just.

• 1:23:17Joe Rogan?

  Izzy mind fucked him.

• 1:23:18Speaker 01

  Nah, he fucking, he fucked him over for a couple of years, right?

• 1:23:22Joe Rogan?

  For a couple of years. That's how crazy that fight was.

• 1:23:23Speaker 01

  He just, he's just coming back now. The Luke Rockhold, I think, helped him.

• 1:23:27Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:23:28Speaker 01

  But even Luke almost fucking knocked him out.

• 1:23:29Joe Rogan?

  Bro, that was a great fight.

• 1:23:32Speaker 01

  Why you put that in Utah? Wasn't it in Utah?

• 1:23:35Joe Rogan?

  High altitude. Yeah, good point. Yeah.

• 1:23:38Speaker 01

  If that was somewhere else, I don't know.

• 1:23:40Joe Rogan?

  Well, it was a great fight.

• 1:23:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was fun.

• 1:23:41Joe Rogan?

  And that was like Luke's, like, last really great performance, where he still looked like a world caliber fighter.

• 1:23:47Speaker 01

  For sure.

• 1:23:48Joe Rogan?

  But I think Hamzat against Azamat was the best Hamzat, oh, excuse me, when I think Paulo, Paulo Costa against Azamat, was the best Paulo Costa I've seen in a long time. I mean, he looked better, because he looked physically stronger. Like, being at light heavyweight didn't at all look like a stretch. In fact, it looked like a better place for him. Like, when I was listening to the sound of his punches and his kicks, it was even harder than before. He didn't look fat at all. He looked like a perfect light. Light heavyweight, like, I think he's probably, at least at this stage in his life, because I think Paulo's like thirty-four now.

• 1:24:20Speaker 01

  He has to be.

• 1:24:21Joe Rogan?

  It would be way better for him to compete at light heavyweight.

• 1:24:24Speaker 01

  And thirty-four is a perfect prime, right?

• 1:24:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:27Speaker 01

  At, at light heavyweight, thirty-four is almost prime.

• 1:24:29Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:24:29Speaker 01

  Like, at light heavyweight, that's a great age.

• 1:24:31Joe Rogan?

  Sure, well, that was like when Izzy was on top of shit, he was around thirty-four, Jon Jones was a little younger, well, Jon Jones was the youngest champion in history. That's a different guy. But, like, when you look at Paulo Costa's performances, and then you look at this last one, you're like, that might be the best Paulo Costa of all time. He looked fucking phenomenal, and he ate some big shots from Ozimot, and just didn't even flinch.

• 1:24:56Speaker 01

  Nah, that-

• 1:24:56Joe Rogan?

  Didn't even flinch.

• 1:24:57Speaker 01

  I can't even imagine how that man cuts to one-eighty-five, right? It's truly unbelievable, that muscle mass that goes away. Experiencing that, it's just, it's like-

• 1:25:05Joe Rogan?

  Weakens him, it weakens him.

• 1:25:06Speaker 01

  Fully depletes your body.

• 1:25:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think him at two-oh-five is really the way to go, because I guarantee you, he's probably walking around at about like two-thirty or something.

• 1:25:14Speaker 01

  He might be a good fucking heavyweight, too, throw him up there.

• 1:25:17Joe Rogan?

  He said if Derrick Lewis falls out of the White House card, he'll step in and fight at heavyweight.

• 1:25:21Speaker 01

  Well, it makes sense to fight Josh Hoke at that way, because they're both similar body types, I'm not similar, he's a lot more-

• 1:25:27Joe Rogan?

  How dare you, how dare you compare.

• 1:25:30Speaker 01

  I, I was, I meant, weight-wise, they're both around two-forty, but they look a lot different.

• 1:25:35Joe Rogan?

  A lot, different. I don't know if Hoke is ready for that yet, that's crazy. Unless he can take Paulo down, he's gonna get, that's a-

• 1:25:43Speaker 01

  It's a fun, it's fun, he's-

• 1:25:44Joe Rogan?

  It'll be fun, because he'll go after him, but-

• 1:25:47Speaker 01

  He's giving, he's-

• 1:25:47Joe Rogan?

  Curtis Blades is very different than Paulo Costa. When it comes to striking, Paulo Costa's fucking terrifying.

• 1:25:53Speaker 01

  But I've also shook, I've sho- how do you say, shookin', shake?

• 1:25:56Joe Rogan?

  Shake his hand?

• 1:25:56Speaker 01

  I shook Curtis Blades' hand.

• 1:26:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the giant.

• 1:26:02Speaker 01

  It's fucking four times the size of a normal hand.

• 1:26:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, Curtis Blades is a huge dude.

• 1:26:06Speaker 01

  To be punched by that hand that many times and to not go down is pretty impressive.

• 1:26:09Joe Rogan?

  Well, also impressive for Curtis. Curtis had a blown-out eye socket, a broken nose.

• 1:26:14Speaker 01

  Curtis is the man, I love Curtis, he's a good dude.

• 1:26:17Joe Rogan?

  Incredible heart, incredible heart, he just did not, after all that shit that Josh Hoke had talked, he did not want to lose that man. He wa- he gave everything he had, there was not a moment of quit in that fight for Curtis.

• 1:26:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, he could've scored it for him if he wanted.

• 1:26:32Joe Rogan?

  Well, I don't think so.

• 1:26:33Speaker 01

  You could not, but you could have.

• 1:26:34Joe Rogan?

  I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think that would be reasonable, but he certainly gave a great account of himself. Yeah, but that's not fair.

• 1:26:41Speaker 01

  No, you're right. It's egregious. He could be.

• 1:26:42Joe Rogan?

  He might have won a round, but the, the, the most important thing is like, that guy, he gave it what he had. He gave it, he could be proud. He could, he could be proud. That guy, there's not, there's no question at all. That guy left nothing, there was nothing left in the tank at the end of that third round, you know, and that's all you could ever ask.

• 1:27:00Speaker 01

  It's a fucking beautiful fight to watch, especially from heavyweights, man.

• 1:27:03Joe Rogan?

  But it makes me sad too, because I'm like, boy, you can only do a few of those.

• 1:27:06Speaker 01

  That's probably the last one.

• 1:27:08Joe Rogan?

  I mean, I always go back to like.

• 1:27:09Speaker 01

  Of that.

• 1:27:11Joe Rogan?

  The Kane Velasquez, Junior Dos Santos ones.

• 1:27:13Speaker 01

  Nasty, nasty.

• 1:27:15Joe Rogan?

  Those were so hard to watch, man.

• 1:27:16Speaker 01

  It's nasty stuff.

• 1:27:17Joe Rogan?

  Cause Kane just didn't get tired. Being in there with a guy like Kane who didn't get tired, you're constantly getting punched in the face, constantly, and it's just nothing but heart keeps you there until the fifth round.

• 1:27:29Speaker 01

  Kane, man. I just want to shake Kane's hand, give him a hug.

• 1:27:34Joe Rogan?

  He's out.

• 1:27:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:27:35Joe Rogan?

  We were trying to get him on the podcast before he went in, but the judge wouldn't allow it.

• 1:27:40Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:27:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I definitely have him on now, though. I love Kane. He's in my top. I don't think there's a GOAT, a real GOAT in heavyweight, because I think there's times where one guy would have beaten all the other guys.

• 1:27:52Speaker 01

  Of course. Everyone had, there had, there were moments, though.

• 1:27:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's in the GOAT category.

• 1:27:58Speaker 01

  For sure.

• 1:27:58Joe Rogan?

  There's a GOAT, I would say in heavyweight, there's a GOAT category. You gotta put Stebe in there, because he defended the heavyweight title more than anybody. He beat Nganu when Nganu was in his fucking prime and got rocked a bunch of times.

• 1:28:09Speaker 01

  Oh, that was a crazy fight, too.

• 1:28:11Joe Rogan?

  Crazy fight, crazy fight, crazy fight. So you gotta give it to him. He's, he's always gonna be in the GOAT category. Kane, Fedor, of course. Fedor is like.

• 1:28:22Joe Rogan?

  The real connoisseur, the real hardcore MMA heads, they're like Fedor is the GOAT.

• 1:28:28Speaker 01

  He's the one.

• 1:28:29Joe Rogan?

  I always say everybody forgets about Fabrizio Verdun. Cause Fabrizio Verdun tapped Kane Velasquez, Minotaro Noguera and Fedor. And he tapped Fedor when Fedor was Fedor. Like, everybody looks at a guy like when he lost a bunch of fights, or they didn't go so well for him. And later in his career, he's in his late 30s. When you look at Fabrizio Verdun in his prime, he's in that range, man. He beat Kane Velasquez, he beat Mark Hunt with a flying knee to win the title.

• 1:28:58Speaker 01

  He has that resume more, I mean, at that time, those are heavy hitters.

• 1:29:01Joe Rogan?

  Bro, I mean, he beat the best of the best. He beat them all and he tapped three of the all-time greats. Those are, Minotaro for sure, when he was in Pride, he's in GOAT category. But then you gotta give it a little more, like Fedor's a notch above him, cause Fedor beat him and beat him with ground and pound. But then the other guys are Kane. And, you know, you always gotta think Kane, prime Kane against anybody ever, man, who knows? Prime Kane was just an unstoppable tornado of punches and takedowns and no, no, no tired, no fatigue. It's not coming. Like, you think he's gonna get tired, he's never gonna get tired, he's gonna keep punching you in the face.

• 1:29:38Speaker 01

  Top-tier wrestling.

• 1:29:39Joe Rogan?

  Top-tier wrestling. And fucking Fabrizio tapped him too.

• 1:29:44Speaker 01

  And he's Mexican.

• 1:29:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and he's Mexican. A lot of Mexicans have great cardio, man.

• 1:29:48Speaker 01

  They have great cardio and unbelievable fucking heart and chin.

• 1:29:52Joe Rogan?

  I wonder if it's from high altitude genetics. You know, like you were saying, like living in-

• 1:29:57Speaker 01

  It's the genetics from warriors, it's warrior genetics.

• 1:29:59Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:29:59Speaker 01

  It's 100%.

• 1:30:00Joe Rogan?

  100% for sure.

• 1:30:01Speaker 01

  Volkanovski has the same thing, just from a different type of, a different type of indigenous tribe, you know?

• 1:30:08Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:30:08Speaker 01

  The Macedonians and the, the, the crazy fucking, the, the, the up in the mountain people.

• 1:30:15Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:30:15Speaker 01

  That are 5'6" with hands like fucking-

• 1:30:19Joe Rogan?

  Marab.

• 1:30:19Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 1:30:20Joe Rogan?

  Marab Dovis will be a perfect example. Warrior genetics.

• 1:30:23Speaker 01

  100%.

• 1:30:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:25Speaker 01

  That dude, I've never-

• 1:30:28Speaker 01

  A lot of these athletes, if they had, it's like if they had a little size, they'd be playing any professional sport.

• 1:30:34Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:30:35Speaker 01

  You know?

• 1:30:35Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, for sure, especially if you have the mental toughness to reach championship level.

• 1:30:39Speaker 01

  But I've also seen a lot of fighters can't throw a fucking baseball. Like, a lot of fighters, they can't do anything else. Like, I grew up playing baseball. I could play every single sport because of the dexterity baseball showed me. I feel like baseball and basketball are the main sports to show the child early to, to create dexterity.

• 1:31:01Joe Rogan?

  That's a good sport for competitive drive, too.

• 1:31:04Speaker 01

  And gymnastics. I've heard Khabib say that you keep your child in gymnastics till they're 10, then they could do martial arts. I'm following father's plan.

• 1:31:11Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's actually very smart, because then you develop, like, crazy body control.

• 1:31:16Speaker 01

  Fucking shredded, six years old, shredded already, bro.

• 1:31:20Joe Rogan?

  Right, from gymnastics.

• 1:31:21Speaker 01

  I've never had an ab, not even as a child. I've always had a fucking, a little bubba. I've always been a little bubba.

• 1:31:31Joe Rogan?

  Hey, man, it's part of your charm.

• 1:31:32Speaker 01

  It is, it is part of my... If I was shredded, I wouldn't be as likable.

• 1:31:36Joe Rogan?

  You think so?

• 1:31:37Speaker 01

  Let's find out. Let's find out, because I'll be fucking shirtless everywhere, posing. They might not like that. Try this one.

• 1:31:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, this lighter's died out. I mean, oh, I buy them new and they still die out quick.

• 1:31:52Speaker 01

  Gotta get you a torch.

• 1:31:54Joe Rogan?

  This is a, I mean, this is kind of a torch.

• 1:31:56Speaker 01

  That's like a mini, that's like a little mini. Gotta get you a torch. Like a mini welder.

• 1:32:00Joe Rogan?

  Mmm.

• 1:32:01Speaker 01

  The mini welding one works well.

• 1:32:03Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:32:05Speaker 01

  Underwater welding torches for the cigars.

• 1:32:08Joe Rogan?

  So this Hamzat and Strickland thing, to me, it's gonna be, what, what can Hamzat do on the feet? Can he clip him? And can Strickland stop the takedown?

• 1:32:18Speaker 01

  I don't even, like, it's, it's so hard to even think anybody could stop Hamzat right now at anything.

• 1:32:25Joe Rogan?

  I know, it's true.

• 1:32:25Speaker 01

  It's like you're not even gonna get to throw hands with him. He's just gonna be smiling, laughing. You think he's gonna fucking take you down and manhandle you like no one's ever been manhandled before.

• 1:32:34Joe Rogan?

  His timing and his takedowns is fucking insane. It's so good.

• 1:32:38Speaker 01

  Watching the, the training, the speed, and he's like, it's equivalent to, like, Allen Iverson doing a crossover. He's doing it with that type of, like... Flair.

• 1:32:50Joe Rogan?

  If I was gonna make an argument against it, I would say he's handling guys that don't have a big background in elite wrestling. They're not like elite grapplers. The guy that he fought that was an elite grappler gave him problems. No, Gilbert Burns for sure, but that was-

• 1:33:05Speaker 01

  Gilbert Burns fucked him up, too.

• 1:33:06Joe Rogan?

  He did, but that was like more stand-up fucking him up.

• 1:33:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, but Gilbert Burns, if he took him down, like-

• 1:33:11Joe Rogan?

  Gilbert can get back up to his feet, he's dangerous.

• 1:33:13Speaker 01

  He's one of the most elite players on the floor, right?

• 1:33:16Joe Rogan?

  Yes, especially back then. You know, Gilbert just retired.

• 1:33:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:33:19Joe Rogan?

  Congratulations, Gilbert.

• 1:33:20Speaker 01

  Tremendous career.

• 1:33:21Joe Rogan?

  Tremendous. But he, they were, they were banging it out and Hamzah fought a completely different kind of fight. He tried to like slug it out. I think his ego got in the way because Gilbert clipped him a couple times, dropped him, rocked him. Gilbert was a wild boy.

• 1:33:34Speaker 01

  I was fucking screaming during that one.

• 1:33:36Joe Rogan?

  He, in his prime, Gilbert was so fucking game. He was so game, so dangerous, man. He knocks people out. So, uh, I was gonna say Camaro. Camaro Usman, and that was a short notice fight that Camaro took at 185.

• 1:33:50Speaker 01

  Unbelievable fight.

• 1:33:50Joe Rogan?

  And in the third round, Camaro was winning. I was like, this would have been very interesting if it was a five-round fight.

• 1:33:55Speaker 01

  Hundred percent. I, I feel, I mean, it's hard to predict, but Camaro had the, he had the momentum, 100%.

• 1:34:02Joe Rogan?

  If it was a five-round fight and if Camaro had a full camp, because you're taking a fight on that short notice like that, you don't trust in your wind, like you would trust in your wind if you just went through 12 weeks of hell, where you just know you're in fucking tippy-top, like-

• 1:34:16Speaker 01

  Was his knee barking also? I'm sure his knee's always barking.

• 1:34:18Joe Rogan?

  He's such a warrior. When he gets in there, he fights like it doesn't matter.

• 1:34:22Speaker 01

  I mean, you know, he would, they were in the wrestling positions for a while where he, like, he wasn't able to really do much. You know, like as far as-

• 1:34:28Joe Rogan?

  Well, he defended. Hamzah wasn't able to do anything to him.

• 1:34:31Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying. It was like a stalemate kind of, they were just like there.

• 1:34:33Joe Rogan?

  Where with everybody else, Hamzah basically ragdolls him, mounts him, gets him down, submits him.

• 1:34:38Speaker 01

  Kevin Holland just rolls you around. It was like a fucking video game, like Rolling Thunder.

• 1:34:41Joe Rogan?

  That was crazy. And him and Kevin Holland had so many words before that too, so there was a lot of anger in that, you know? That was crazy.

• 1:34:50Speaker 01

  That was a wild one.

• 1:34:51Joe Rogan?

  That was really crazy. And they had like gotten some sort of an altercation before that at another event. So there was bad blood there. So it was like Hamzah just wanted to prove a point.

• 1:34:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, you know, these guys aren't really playing. They they they play by a different set of rules. Coming from that uh that block.

• 1:35:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's a fucking war zone. It's a war zone, son. They they're used to actual fights.

• 1:35:12Speaker 01

  For sure.

• 1:35:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like to stay alive. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Scary shit, man. That's a fight, though. It's a really interesting fight. It's we're gonna know real soon, like early on in the fight, whether or not Strickland can avoid the takedown and whether or not Hamzah can hit him. And whether or not he can avoid getting hit, because Strickland will set some traps. He's sneaky with his striking. Very clever. Very clever with his striking.

• 1:35:36Speaker 01

  I mean, the the also Hamzah had the issue coming off of that over COVID. He had that long, long COVID where his lungs were fucked for a while, right?

• 1:35:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know what that was? He wouldn't stop training. So he got COVID and trained hard like a fucking psychopath all through COVID to the point where he was getting bleeding out of his lungs.

• 1:35:56Speaker 01

  Oh, no fucking shit.

• 1:35:57Joe Rogan?

  He was coughing up blood. He just apparently he's an animal. They just can't keep him out of the gym. They just can't keep him out of the gym. And so he kept training while he had COVID, like and it got real bad, to the point where he was hospitalized.

• 1:36:09Speaker 01

  That's I I don't that that's a different type of level of being able to just like push past like physical sickness. Because COVID is fucked up.

• 1:36:18Joe Rogan?

  Push past to the point where you're almost dead.

• 1:36:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, but also like.

• 1:36:21Joe Rogan?

  You're still showing up doing rounds.

• 1:36:23Speaker 01

  I I think I had mentioned this, but I I was training with um Plino and Pereira before the first Ankaliya fight. And we got sick the same way.

• 1:36:32Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:36:33Speaker 01

  Neuro. Everyone like I was sick.

• 1:36:36Joe Rogan?

  Norovirus, right?

• 1:36:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, bro, I was fucking so sick and he went and did the fight.

• 1:36:40Joe Rogan?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:36:40Speaker 01

  Did the whole thing. He was as sick as me, apparently.

• 1:36:43Joe Rogan?

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• 1:38:34Speaker 01

  The first Anka LaFite. I fucking literally was knocked out for 10 days. And this motherfucker's training, traveling, and fighting.

• 1:38:42Joe Rogan?

  With a norovirus, yeah.

• 1:38:44Speaker 01

  For the championship. It wasn't a, it wasn't a, it wasn't a Pereira fight, but it was not horrible.

• 1:38:50Joe Rogan?

  No, it wasn't terrible. He lost, but then the second fight was like, holy shit.

• 1:38:54Speaker 01

  I see them training now, bro. He looks like a fucking behemoth at 250. He's in 260s now. Holy shit. He's, they weighed in at 263. Bro, that's, him at 263 is scary. It's nuts. That guy fought at 185 just a couple of years ago. Yeah, well, this is, this is his true body type. He's, he's meant to be a cowboy, you know what I mean? He's like a fucking Brazilian cowboy. Amazon warrior genes, same shit we're talking about. That's what he is. It's the bone density stuff. It's not, it's like, it's true. Genetics. Indigene. Mm-hmm. It's, it's, it's re, you look at certain people and you see the past. Right. I see.

• 1:39:34Joe Rogan?

  Warriors.

• 1:39:34Speaker 01

  Bro.

• 1:39:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. When that song comes out?

• 1:39:40Speaker 01

  Chances were made to excite, they would, they, they, to conjure up spirit. That's what he fucking does. He's conjuring up spirit. That's why Yuri was so scared of the black. Yuri thought that he was casting spells. He was gonna shrink his head.

• 1:39:54Joe Rogan?

  Yuri, Yuri asked him in the second fight to not use spiritual warfare.

• 1:39:58Speaker 01

  So good. That's, come on. There's no, there's no, there's, there's no movie that could write this type of script. I love this shit.

• 1:40:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I felt bad for Yuri, but I felt great for Carlos at the same time. It's like, I.

• 1:40:11Speaker 01

  I love that whole team. Ash and all those boys out there. I'm, uh, yeah, they're great guys. I like those guys.

• 1:40:17Joe Rogan?

  It's like, look, I get it. It's a hard pill to swallow. I get it. You did back off. I get it. But also, that guy just.

• 1:40:24Speaker 01

  You can only blame yourself on that one, man.

• 1:40:26Joe Rogan?

  He found a way to win. Found a way to win in the most spectacular way possible.

• 1:40:31Speaker 01

  That's the only thing that should really be spoken about is, is his will and his, like, his, his ability to fight through that. Bro, torn ACL, they're carting you off the fucking field.

• 1:40:41Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 1:40:42Speaker 01

  Everyone's crying that their career's over in football, carting you off the field with your heads like that.

• 1:40:48Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 1:40:48Speaker 01

  This dude's fucking knocking homie out for the, for the light heavyweight championship of the world.

• 1:40:51Joe Rogan?

  Fucking crazy.

• 1:40:53Speaker 01

  So, to, to have that type of will in you, you could only just be mesmerized by that.

• 1:40:59Joe Rogan?

  I know, it's nuts, man. Think about it, like how many great fights are out there to be had, how many great fights have been had? I mean, those moments like that, that's like, you can't, that, that's one of the things that makes a sport so exciting. Like, you couldn't have imagined that he would blow his knee out, and then you couldn't have imagined that Yuri would pause and not know what to do, and then you couldn't have imagined that Carlos would knock him out.

• 1:41:23Speaker 01

  That's...

• 1:41:24Joe Rogan?

  Perfectly.

• 1:41:25Speaker 01

  Let me ask you something about the footing in the, in the, in the octagon. Did his foot slip? Was this slippery in there?

• 1:41:31Joe Rogan?

  I think it was just a placement issue.

• 1:41:32Speaker 01

  Oh, he placed it wrong and then...

• 1:41:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, sometimes in scrambles, you know, you're moving weird and...

• 1:41:37Speaker 01

  So he overextended, did he? Missed the spot?

• 1:41:39Joe Rogan?

  It looks like it just blew out, man.

• 1:41:40Speaker 01

  Cause that shit just... Just waved.

• 1:41:43Joe Rogan?

  There's a video of Carlos blowing his knee out, and it looks like they're in the middle of a wild exchange. He moves his foot in a certain way, and it just pops, and you can see it go up the back of his leg, the ripple.

• 1:41:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, it just snapped up, it was nasty.

• 1:41:55Joe Rogan?

  It's nasty, yeah, it's horrible, and it's gonna take a long time for that thing to be better again. But, he won.

• 1:42:02Speaker 01

  He won.

• 1:42:02Joe Rogan?

  He's a world champion. And then Paulo Costa, interim champ, if I was the fucking captain of the ship, that's what I would do. I'd go, "Hey Paulo, you're a fucking star, maybe Yankaliev." I mean, I know, I know that Pereira just knocked him out, but he deserves to be in, so here it is. So he placed his leg weird, and pushed off, and it just blew out, see?

• 1:42:24Speaker 01

  It looked like he was on...

• 1:42:25Joe Rogan?

  Just a freak movement.

• 1:42:26Speaker 01

  He, he didn't step on the, on the paw of the foot, he stepped more on the, on the inside like that, like the angle of the, of the step.

• 1:42:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, it was definitely weird, because they're in the middle of a scramble, you know? But look at him.

• 1:42:41Speaker 01

  And look at his athleticism right there, the way he just spun off that and stayed on that left leg. Yeah, no, that's nasty.

• 1:42:47Joe Rogan?

  When that happens, your legs are so unstable. The crazy thing is, there's guys in the UFC-

• 1:42:54Speaker 01

  Look, you see how it's like-

• 1:42:55Joe Rogan?

  That fight with no ACL. They have no ACL and they fight in the UFC. I know Rafael Dos Anjos was doing that for a while. He had no ACL and he was fighting in the UFC.

• 1:43:05Speaker 01

  I mean, was that his, during his decline?

• 1:43:09Joe Rogan?

  Um-

• 1:43:10Speaker 01

  Or was he champ-

• 1:43:11Joe Rogan?

  He was still pretty close to the top. He had lost the title, but he was still pretty close to the top, where he was still fucking a lot of people up.

• 1:43:17Speaker 01

  He's another breed also.

• 1:43:19Joe Rogan?

  Well, that guy, the conditioning, that guy was sculpted. Dos Anjos in his prime looked like somebody made him out of marble. He looked like he belonged at the Vatican, you know?

• 1:43:30Speaker 01

  I was, every time I tell people I'm gonna come see you, they always say, "Yo, can you ask him this, can you ask him that?" I started fielding questions for you.

• 1:43:38Joe Rogan?

  I'm sorry, I'm sorry about that.

• 1:43:39Speaker 01

  For what?

• 1:43:40Joe Rogan?

  For you getting those questions for me.

• 1:43:42Speaker 01

  No, I like it.

• 1:43:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you do?

• 1:43:43Speaker 01

  I like it.

• 1:43:44Joe Rogan?

  What are the questions?

• 1:43:44Speaker 01

  Cause they're so ridiculous.

• 1:43:45Joe Rogan?

  What's the most ridiculous one?

• 1:43:46Speaker 01

  Well, I don't remember, it's all silly, but one good one is like, "When you gonna have Mirko Krokop here?"

• 1:43:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I actually talked to him. I was in Croatia-

• 1:43:53Speaker 01

  Because my boy-

• 1:43:54Joe Rogan?

  During the summer, and I talked to him.

• 1:43:55Speaker 01

  Lives in the same neighborhood as him, that I train with, my boy Dean, he's literally a Croatian, he looks like fucking Mirko.

• 1:44:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:02Speaker 01

  Throws the leg, bald-headed, fucking, he looks like he's, like he's a, like he's driving BMW M5, for sure.

• 1:44:11Joe Rogan?

  That's funny. I would definitely have Mirko on, he's a legend.

• 1:44:14Speaker 01

  Need to hear from him.

• 1:44:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's a legend and he's very funny. I've seen him in interviews before.

• 1:44:19Speaker 01

  I was wondering whether he spoke English or not, but he speaks pretty perfectly.

• 1:44:22Joe Rogan?

  Pretty good, good enough, yeah, definitely good enough to have a conversation. I was watching him versus Fedor today.

• 1:44:27Speaker 01

  Mmm.

• 1:44:28Joe Rogan?

  That was a crazy fight. I think that was like 2000, look at that man! Jack!

• 1:44:33Speaker 01

  That's unbelievable right there.

• 1:44:34Joe Rogan?

  How old is Mirko now?

• 1:44:35Speaker 01

  That's a recent picture?

• 1:44:40Joe Rogan?

  Dude's in phenomenal shape. I mean, he's gotta be fifty. How old is Murco now?

• 1:44:45Speaker 01

  That stuff doesn't go away when it's real, man.

• 1:44:48Joe Rogan?

  Fifty-one. Shredded.

• 1:44:50Speaker 01

  That's unbelievable.

• 1:44:51Joe Rogan?

  Shredded, son. Yeah, he was an animal in his prime. Boy, he was the first kickboxer to really start doing well in MMA because he was so explosive. See, a lot of the other guys like Ernesto Houst or Peter Ertz, they were real technical, but they set things up.

• 1:45:09Speaker 01

  They were slappers for the most, like.

• 1:45:10Joe Rogan?

  They were setting things up.

• 1:45:11Speaker 01

  Setting it up, yeah.

• 1:45:12Joe Rogan?

  But with Murco, he would just explode on you.

• 1:45:16Speaker 01

  Fucking explode your liver, explode your head with those fucking kicks, man.

• 1:45:20Joe Rogan?

  He was so fast and so explosive that when he entered into MMA, he had a kind of advantage. This is back when they let him fight with shoes on. Murco with shoes on is a crazy proposition.

• 1:45:30Speaker 01

  That's nuts.

• 1:45:31Speaker 00

  Is that, I just, I've seen, I see a guy like this and I go, that's a giant.

• 1:45:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's a giant.

• 1:45:36Speaker 00

  But I mean, so.

• 1:45:37Joe Rogan?

  Long Man Troy, he was like seven plus, feet tall.

• 1:45:39Speaker 00

  So when you find a skeleton of a person like this.

• 1:45:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:45:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, giants are real.

• 1:45:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, definitely.

• 1:45:44Speaker 00

  They're around now, too.

• 1:45:45Joe Rogan?

  Right, definitely, yeah.

• 1:45:47Speaker 01

  But he doesn't look like he has gigantism.

• 1:45:50Joe Rogan?

  No, he does. He does look like he does.

• 1:45:52Speaker 01

  No, but you know, like, most of those guys are unathletic. Their knees are knocking.

• 1:45:57Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right.

• 1:45:58Speaker 01

  He doesn't seem unathletic.

• 1:46:00Joe Rogan?

  I see what you're saying.

• 1:46:01Speaker 01

  You know, he has more of like, he looks like he's kind of on his toes, you know, like he's.

• 1:46:06Joe Rogan?

  Moves well.

• 1:46:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, like his legs are working in the right way, he has proper athleticism.

• 1:46:11Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's another guy that beat Fedor, Bigfoot Silver.

• 1:46:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, but he looked like he had fucking giant face.

• 1:46:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he had it.

• 1:46:18Speaker 00

  The guy in the NBA, Victor Wembanyama is.

• 1:46:20Speaker 01

  Again, Wembanyama's legs.

• 1:46:22Joe Rogan?

  Seven foot four, that's crazy.

• 1:46:24Speaker 01

  It doesn't look like he moves as well as he does.

• 1:46:26Speaker 00

  He's twenty-two years old.

• 1:46:27Speaker 01

  He's a fucking praying mantis, this kid.

• 1:46:29Speaker 00

  He shouldn't be able to do this stuff. He dribbles behind his back, he shoots threes.

• 1:46:32Joe Rogan?

  Bro, seven foot four is crazy.

• 1:46:35Speaker 00

  It's crazy.

• 1:46:36Speaker 01

  Do you watch the NBA though?

• 1:46:37Joe Rogan?

  Sometimes.

• 1:46:37Speaker 01

  All right. Seven foot four is different when you weigh a hundred and ninety pounds.

• 1:46:41Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:46:42Speaker 01

  You know, seven foot four like Rick Smits back in the day, or like dudes who have a little weight on them look different. This guy is.

• 1:46:49Joe Rogan?

  He's two thirty-five.

• 1:46:49Speaker 01

  But that's unbelievable.

• 1:46:51Joe Rogan?

  You don't believe that?

• 1:46:52Speaker 00

  I, he probably is.

• 1:46:53Speaker 01

  No, he's two thirty-five.

• 1:46:54Joe Rogan?

  He's so big.

• 1:46:55Speaker 00

  He's still getting bigger, too. He's got a little brother that's not even in the NBA yet. He's like.

• 1:47:01Speaker 01

  This kid is, this is the future right here.

• 1:47:03Speaker 00

  He's maybe sixteen or seventeen, his younger brother, and he's still growing. He's, I don't know, six-ten now.

• 1:47:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is this ridiculous. This is the future right here of sports.

• 1:47:11Joe Rogan?

  Giant humans.

• 1:47:12Speaker 01

  Humans.

• 1:47:13Joe Rogan?

  Right, so that if you go back to the Bible.

• 1:47:14Speaker 01

  It's like New League football.

• 1:47:16Joe Rogan?

  There are giants. Yeah. They're around. Giants are real. They've been around. Well, look at the guys in Iceland, like the the mountain.

• 1:47:21Speaker 01

  My favorite, my favorite people.

• 1:47:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:24Speaker 01

  Jean Paul Sigmundsson, one of my favorite strongmen of all time, all the Icelandic heroes.

• 1:47:29Joe Rogan?

  I know, right? All Vikings.

• 1:47:30Speaker 01

  Bro.

• 1:47:31Joe Rogan?

  Giant humans.

• 1:47:31Speaker 01

  Uh, Hafthor Bjornsson, he's the guy from um, Game of Thrones.

• 1:47:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:37Speaker 01

  Who I do, yeah, how do I get this for? Yeah, he's the mountain. But, bro, I guess, you know, world's strongman taught me about the world. Taught me about how to pronounce names and, yeah, like.

• 1:47:48Joe Rogan?

  Magnus von Magnuson.

• 1:47:49Speaker 01

  Magnus Ver Magnuson.

• 1:47:51Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 1:47:52Speaker 01

  That's who it is. There's all Icelandic legends.

• 1:47:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:55Speaker 01

  Jean Paul Sigmundsson, Magnus Ver, Yanni Virtanen, and Ukola from Finland, like, whoa.

• 1:48:01Joe Rogan?

  Crazy genetics in that part of the world.

• 1:48:03Speaker 01

  Unreal.

• 1:48:04Joe Rogan?

  Vikings.

• 1:48:04Speaker 01

  Un- like Viking genetics.

• 1:48:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but that's like Vi- that's, you wanna know what a Viking looked like? That's what they looked like. That's, those guys showed up with a fucking gigantic boat filled with animals, swinging swords, just ready to kill everybody in your village. Fun.

• 1:48:19Speaker 01

  Swinging that fucking mace, swinging the hammer.

• 1:48:21Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 1:48:21Speaker 01

  May I have that, please?

• 1:48:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, man.

• 1:48:26Joe Rogan?

  I'm rewatching Game of Thrones.

• 1:48:27Speaker 01

  I've never seen it.

• 1:48:28Joe Rogan?

  The final season now.

• 1:48:29Speaker 01

  I've never seen it.

• 1:48:30Joe Rogan?

  God damn, it's good.

• 1:48:32Speaker 01

  I need to, I've been watching Mobland.

• 1:48:34Joe Rogan?

  Good. That's great.

• 1:48:35Speaker 01

  Fucking.

• 1:48:36Joe Rogan?

  Tom Hardy kills it.

• 1:48:37Speaker 01

  I love Tom Hardy, that's my man.

• 1:48:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:39Speaker 01

  But fucking Pierce Brosnan?

• 1:48:41Joe Rogan?

  Kills it.

• 1:48:41Speaker 01

  Holy shit.

• 1:48:42Joe Rogan?

  Kills it. And, uh, what is the woman's name again? Uh, Helen Mirren?

• 1:48:46Speaker 01

  Oh, my.

• 1:48:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh! She's so good!

• 1:48:49Speaker 01

  Maeve.

• 1:48:49Joe Rogan?

  She's so good!

• 1:48:50Speaker 01

  What a fucking legendary cast. I really like that show a lot.

• 1:48:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's amazing. That's Guy Ritchie.

• 1:48:55Speaker 01

  I'd like to be on it, yeah.

• 1:48:56Joe Rogan?

  Guy Ritchie's the fucking man.

• 1:48:57Speaker 01

  He can find the part for me. I could, I can't do an accent, but.

• 1:48:59Joe Rogan?

  You could learn. You can learn an accent, bro. Let's try it out right now.

• 1:49:03Speaker 01

  I've.

• 1:49:04Joe Rogan?

  Try it out.

• 1:49:04Speaker 01

  Which one, Irish?

• 1:49:05Joe Rogan?

  Liverpool.

• 1:49:06Speaker 01

  Oh, fuck, that fuck's sick.

• 1:49:08Joe Rogan?

  There you go. You're in.

• 1:49:09Speaker 01

  I've been there. I'm a schouser.

• 1:49:10Joe Rogan?

  You could do it, bro.

• 1:49:11Speaker 01

  You have to chouser.

• 1:49:12Joe Rogan?

  You just, you would live with Patty Pimblett for like a week.

• 1:49:15Speaker 01

  Meatball Molly.

• 1:49:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Live with Patty and Meatball Molly. They'll teach you how to talk, schouser.

• 1:49:21Speaker 01

  And I wanna box.

• 1:49:22Joe Rogan?

  There you go, dog. Come on.

• 1:49:24Speaker 01

  I just wanna throw hands. I just love fucking, like, I just wanna, I love boxing.

• 1:49:29Joe Rogan?

  Do you, for real?

• 1:49:29Speaker 01

  I love it. But remember how you were trying to show me how to throw kick? I've just stopped kicking.

• 1:49:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you gave up?

• 1:49:35Speaker 01

  It was, I'm not a kicker.

• 1:49:37Joe Rogan?

  You don't have to be.

• 1:49:38Speaker 01

  I'm not a kicker. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a choker. I'd like to be a choker.

• 1:49:42Joe Rogan?

  You could learn how to kick.

• 1:49:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, I could.

• 1:49:44Joe Rogan?

  You could learn. You just gotta learn how to stretch first.

• 1:49:46Speaker 01

  It's that leg thing, man. I'm, I'm scared to break my leg again.

• 1:49:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:50Speaker 01

  Cause every time I kick in the wrong place, it feels like you hit, you hit the ball on the wrong part of the bat.

• 1:49:55Joe Rogan?

  When you broke your leg, did you have to get pins?

• 1:49:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, I got, it, it broke in half. It broke in half, so it got, I got the plate.

• 1:50:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:50:03Speaker 01

  But it was a clean break. It was good. It's better to get shattered. Shattered, I would've been.

• 1:50:07Joe Rogan?

  Shattered's bad. Shattered's bad. So a clean break.

• 1:50:10Speaker 01

  It kinda made a bionic return.

• 1:50:13Joe Rogan?

  Hmm, so it doesn't bother you now?

• 1:50:14Speaker 01

  No, nothing.

• 1:50:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:50:15Speaker 01

  No, it's strong, but if I kick it in the exact spot, I'll feel it.

• 1:50:19Joe Rogan?

  Right. Like if someone checks a kick on their knee or something like that, yee. What part of your knee or your leg broke?

• 1:50:25Speaker 01

  Uh, I'm gonna not disclose that like Bill Belichick.

• 1:50:28Joe Rogan?

  Look at you. You're hiding injuries.

• 1:50:32Joe Rogan?

  How did you break it?

• 1:50:34Speaker 01

  I fell. Literally slipped in the kitchen. I was making fucking two hamburgers and I was carrying them out and the homie was mopping at the same time. I was wearing the wrong shoe and I just slipped and it got caught behind me.

• 1:50:46Joe Rogan?

  That sucks, man.

• 1:50:46Speaker 01

  Freak accident.

• 1:50:48Joe Rogan?

  You know, that happened is, what's his face? Uh, Piers Morgan. He fell and broke his hip. How'd he get his hip replaced?

• 1:50:55Speaker 01

  That's the thing. He doesn't seem like he's in great shape. I was in fucking sick shape at the time. I was in, I was riding my bike every day. I was feeling good.

• 1:51:03Joe Rogan?

  How long ago did this happen?

• 1:51:04Speaker 01

  2011.

• 1:51:05Joe Rogan?

  Damn.

• 1:51:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, no, 2010.

• 1:51:09Joe Rogan?

  So that's why you're worried about kicking, so don't kick anybody, just work on

• 1:51:13Speaker 01

  Knees.

• 1:51:13Joe Rogan?

  The move.

• 1:51:14Speaker 01

  Like inside knee.

• 1:51:15Joe Rogan?

  There you go, that's a good move for you.

• 1:51:17Speaker 01

  Clinch knee.

• 1:51:18Joe Rogan?

  It's all just about hip mobility, just learn some hip mobility stuff.

• 1:51:22Speaker 01

  I've been working.

• 1:51:23Joe Rogan?

  Ballerina bars?

• 1:51:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:51:24Joe Rogan?

  Those are actually really good.

• 1:51:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I have one, I could do a good, I could get the leg up there.

• 1:51:28Joe Rogan?

  Ballerina bar is really good for swinging your leg. You like, you stand on your left leg and swing your right leg like this, and then up like that, and then this, and up like that. That's really good for like, opening it up and getting the dexterity and strengthening up those supporting muscles.

• 1:51:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, all the flexors.

• 1:51:45Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. Yeah, everybody should have some leg and hip mobility. You should be able to throw a kick, it's not that hard, especially a low kick.

• 1:51:54Speaker 01

  No, I could throw it, but you know, the accuracy and you know, the devastation factor, it might not be the...

• 1:52:01Joe Rogan?

  You'll figure it out, you're a big guy, you're strong, you got a lot of horsepower back there.

• 1:52:05Speaker 01

  Come here, I just wanna, come here, they fucking wrestle you.

• 1:52:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I hear you. You're getting excited.

• 1:52:11Speaker 01

  I've been, I, I train with Polino a lot.

• 1:52:14Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:52:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, I train with him in Jersey, just holds pads.

• 1:52:17Joe Rogan?

  I thought he was in, he's not in Connecticut, oh, his place is in New Jersey.

• 1:52:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, Glover's in, in, uh, in Connecticut, but everyone's pretty close.

• 1:52:24Joe Rogan?

  What part of Jersey is Polino in?

• 1:52:25Speaker 01

  In Nutley.

• 1:52:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, nice.

• 1:52:27Speaker 01

  Right there, ten, like, fifty minutes from me.

• 1:52:29Joe Rogan?

  That's great, that's great.

• 1:52:31Speaker 01

  Gives me good work.

• 1:52:32Joe Rogan?

  He's a good dude, too.

• 1:52:33Speaker 01

  I love him.

• 1:52:34Joe Rogan?

  And great coach.

• 1:52:35Speaker 01

  And they spend, yeah, I was gonna say, he spends time with me and like, teaches me fighting.

• 1:52:40Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:52:40Speaker 01

  Not boxing, he shows me how to fight.

• 1:52:42Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:52:43Speaker 01

  Like things Alex would do.

• 1:52:45Joe Rogan?

  It's probably a good thing for you too, to have something that takes your mind off all the other shit you do.

• 1:52:49Speaker 01

  It's one of my favorite things.

• 1:52:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:51Speaker 01

  The thing is, the, one thing takes my mind off the next. This takes my mind off of that thing, that takes my mind off of that, so it's like a constant therapy that I'm giving myself. Cause I'm getting burnt out here, oh, let's turn to this, now that's stopping me from doing that, now we'll get burnt out there, go to the next thing.

• 1:53:08Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:53:09Speaker 01

  I'm just a seasonal person, I like doing things when I'm like, when I feel them.

• 1:53:14Joe Rogan?

  I know what you mean, yeah.

• 1:53:15Speaker 01

  I don't like to be.

• 1:53:16Joe Rogan?

  Feel it.

• 1:53:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly. I don't want to be forced.

• 1:53:19Joe Rogan?

  Maybe you'll start golfing soon.

• 1:53:20Speaker 01

  That's fucking not for me.

• 1:53:22Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:53:22Speaker 01

  I'm really good. Look at me.

• 1:53:25Speaker 00

  He's in New York.

• 1:53:25Speaker 01

  I'm really good. Pitch and putt? I'm a fucking pro.

• 1:53:29Speaker 00

  You're a good mini golfer?

• 1:53:30Speaker 01

  Pitch and putt. Nah, mini golf, I'm not that good.

• 1:53:33Joe Rogan?

  What's the difference?

• 1:53:34Speaker 01

  Pitch and putt is like everything except driving.

• 1:53:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's like a hundred yard.

• 1:53:37Speaker 01

  It's like a city game. You have it at the park.

• 1:53:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:53:41Speaker 01

  But there's good seventy yard.

• 1:53:42Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:53:43Speaker 01

  Uh. What's the wedge?

• 1:53:45Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. Okay, it's just not long drives.

• 1:53:48Speaker 01

  There's no drives.

• 1:53:48Joe Rogan?

  Got it.

• 1:53:49Speaker 01

  So I'm, you know, pretty good.

• 1:53:51Joe Rogan?

  So every golf game starts off with a long? I'm totally ignorant.

• 1:53:54Speaker 01

  Me too. Every game starts with a drive from the, from the beginning.

• 1:53:57Joe Rogan?

  Is that true?

• 1:53:58Speaker 00

  Mostly. That's a fourteen, uh, it should be two par threes per side. It's not, every course isn't the same, but it's like average. Two par threes per side. Two par fives per side and the rest of par fours.

• 1:54:08Joe Rogan?

  And, uh, do you always open with like a long shot? Is that the thing?

• 1:54:12Speaker 00

  I.

• 1:54:13Speaker 01

  Isn't that like?

• 1:54:14Speaker 00

  How you play the course is supposed to be up to you. You should, I mean, ideally you want to get as far.

• 1:54:18Speaker 01

  How would they play in PGA?

• 1:54:20Speaker 00

  One swing as possible, so you have.

• 1:54:22Joe Rogan?

  Less strokes.

• 1:54:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:54:23Speaker 01

  How does the Masters start?

• 1:54:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, they're.

• 1:54:26Speaker 01

  That's how I'm starting. How they start in Augusta. Shinnecock. Like, I want to play all these, I just want to smoke hash on the golf courses. And chill while other people play.

• 1:54:40Joe Rogan?

  That's what you want to do? That's doable.

• 1:54:42Speaker 01

  I think we could do that.

• 1:54:43Joe Rogan?

  I think that's very attainable.

• 1:54:45Speaker 00

  Sounds like we have a show.

• 1:54:45Speaker 01

  I want to do it once. I don't want to follow them like.

• 1:54:47Joe Rogan?

  What, Jamie?

• 1:54:48Speaker 00

  It sounds like we might have a show.

• 1:54:51Joe Rogan?

  Well, you already did that with Agent Alex.

• 1:54:52Speaker 01

  Bro, I can, how, how do we bring this back? Were you fucking producing it?

• 1:54:56Joe Rogan?

  I was just talking about it yesterday.

• 1:54:57Speaker 01

  Can you produce this for me?

• 1:54:59Speaker 00

  Talking about it? I don't know.

• 1:55:00Speaker 01

  I don't mean to put you on the spot. I don't mean to put you on the spot. Can you be the executive producer?

• 1:55:05Joe Rogan?

  Um.

• 1:55:05Speaker 01

  Code?

• 1:55:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, where would we do it?

• 1:55:07Speaker 01

  It really doesn't take much.

• 1:55:08Joe Rogan?

  Where'd you do it before? You did it at Vice?

• 1:55:10Speaker 01

  We did it in a fucking rented studio with green screen.

• 1:55:13Joe Rogan?

  That's where Vice went bad. Well, they should have kept you around. They fucked up.

• 1:55:17Speaker 01

  They fucked everything up.

• 1:55:18Joe Rogan?

  They had you, they had Eddie Wong, they had a bunch of dope shows. I did Eddie Wong's show. We went and did yoga together.

• 1:55:25Speaker 01

  Seriously?

• 1:55:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:26Speaker 01

  Yo, bro, I don't even want to tell you what I'm about to.

• 1:55:27Joe Rogan?

  I love Eddie.

• 1:55:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's a good kid. Fucking, I'm about to do Taibo with Billy Blanks. Now, like today? Like. You're about to do it? Thursday. Really? Me, Ryan Seacrest and Billy Blanks. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. I'm gonna tell you here first, I went on Wheel of Fortune. Did you? I did. How'd you do? I can't tell you yet, but just let me tell you, I dominated. I can't tell anyone yet, but I dominated.

• 1:55:58Speaker 01

  I think you just told us. Let me just say something, bro. I'm sorry if this is gonna ruin anything, but for fuck's sake, I dominated. Nice. Beautiful. That's what I mean, I'm looking for Jeopardy, to be honest. I'm better at Jeopardy. And so why are you going and doing Tybo with Ryan Seacrest and Billy Blanks? Because they took a liking, Ryan took a liking to me, and now he wants to do something else. Oh, so you guys filming this? Yeah, we're gonna film me and Ryan doing Tybo with Billy Blanks. But for me, Billy Blanks, The Last Boy Scout, the first scene. That's right. That's what I know him for, that's my shit. That's right. Ain't life a bitch? That's right, I forgot about that. It's one of my favorite movies of all time. Well, Damon Wayans is one of my favorite comics of all time. Damon Wayans is a fucking underrated comic.

• 1:56:44Speaker 01

  Underrated comic and underrated action star, he was great in that fucking movie too. Bulletproof with Adam Sandler. Yeah. I used to love Damon Wayans. Major Payne? Oh, my god. He had a run. What about his brother in fucking Low Down Dirty Shame? That was a good action movie too, Keenan? Who knew Keenan Ivory Wayans was a fucking action hero? Keenan's a cool guy. I'mma get you sucker. That's right. That's right. He died from over, he over gold.

• 1:57:09Speaker 01

  Too much gold.

• 1:57:12Speaker 01

  Wasn't there a guy who had like goldfish tanks for his platform shoes? Man, that was the pimp.

• 1:57:19Speaker 01

  You imagine you walking a shoe with fish tanks for platforms? In Living Color changed my life. That shit changed my life. Hey, I just read something, I should probably call Dave and ask him. But I just read something where they're thinking about bringing back The Chappelle Show.

• 1:57:33Speaker 00

  He gave a speech, there's so, Eddie Murphy got another award this week, I think AFI or something? And Dave was on stage speaking, and he said, uh, he was talking with Eddie about it, and Eddie sort of like pushed him. But then during the speech, he sort of said, alright, if you want to do it. I think they actually even said maybe a movie, like a Chappelle's Show movie.

• 1:57:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:57:53Speaker 00

  An actual show, but he's like.

• 1:57:54Joe Rogan?

  That would be fucking crazy.

• 1:57:55Speaker 00

  He kind of said, Eddie, if you do Charlie's parts, let's do it.

• 1:57:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that would be incredible.

• 1:58:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, because he kind of doesn't want to do it without Charlie.

• 1:58:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that would be incredible.

• 1:58:04Speaker 01

  Oof.

• 1:58:05Joe Rogan?

  That'd be incredible. I ran me Eddie and Charlie on vacation once.

• 1:58:10Speaker 01

  Where?

• 1:58:10Joe Rogan?

  Totally random, in Hawaii.

• 1:58:11Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:58:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I was at, uh, at the counter getting my, um, um, you know, keys for the room. And, uh, Charlie's cousin was there. I was like, what are you doing? What's going on, man? What are you doing here? He's like, Charlie's here with Eddie. Come say hi. And I went over, I had lunch with Charlie and Eddie. I was like, just sitting there talking to him. Like, this is crazy.

• 1:58:30Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 1:58:31Joe Rogan?

  It was crazy.

• 1:58:32Speaker 01

  Where were you staying? Mawana Surf Club?

• 1:58:33Joe Rogan?

  Uh, no, Four Seasons. Four Seasons in Maui.

• 1:58:36Speaker 01

  Oh, yes, a nice.

• 1:58:37Joe Rogan?

  Beautiful place, beautiful place. It was like, just talking to Eddie Murphy, I was like, what? Am I really talking to Eddie Murphy? It was so weird.

• 1:58:44Speaker 01

  That's psychedelic right there.

• 1:58:46Joe Rogan?

  It was cool. He was really cool. He was really fun.

• 1:58:48Speaker 01

  I met Martin, Martin Lawrence, who was like, my grandparents learned English from this man. My Albanian grandparents would watch Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy, and Martin.

• 1:59:02Speaker 01

  So like, you know, and, and I did the, I did the thing with Wheel of Fortune. And then I went to the Knicks game versus the Lakers. I said, fuck it, I'm getting myself a ticket. And as I walk in, it's fucking Martin Lawrence right there. I almost, I literally, I've never done this to another man. I shook his hand, I went into his ear, I was like, yo, bro, you don't know how much this means to me, man. You don't know, yo, bro, I, I was just talking, I was like whispering in his ear how much it meant to me.

• 1:59:27Joe Rogan?

  He fanboyed out.

• 1:59:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, I fanboyed the fuck, I don't care. I don't care. I did it.

• 1:59:32Joe Rogan?

  Dude, I, I saw Martin Lawrence in his prime at the Comedy Store in the 90s.

• 1:59:37Speaker 01

  I would have died to see that.

• 1:59:38Joe Rogan?

  He was, there's another guy that people sleep on.

• 1:59:42Speaker 01

  My favorite.

• 1:59:43Joe Rogan?

  He's one of the best comics ever. Like, when he was in his prime, he would fucking destroy. And I would have to follow him. It was hell. I bombed so many times. Mitzi Shore, that lady right there?

• 1:59:53Speaker 01

  Yup.

• 1:59:54Joe Rogan?

  If you were coming up, one of the things that she would do is like, young comics, if she thought of any, any promise at all, she'd put them on after monsters.

• 2:00:01Speaker 01

  Put you out right after a legend.

• 2:00:03Joe Rogan?

  Yup, that's your spot, right on after the killer. Good luck. Good luck, motherfucker.

• 2:00:10Speaker 01

  That's, I like that.

• 2:00:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, man.

• 2:00:12Speaker 01

  Shows you what kind of shots you got.

• 2:00:14Joe Rogan?

  She knew what she was doing. I mean, she's the most important figure in comedy outside of comedians, for sure. She's number one. She knew, she knew what she was doing. Even with her son, I mean, she didn't even give Paulie a break. You know, Paulie had to earn it himself too.

• 2:00:28Speaker 01

  Damn.

• 2:00:29Joe Rogan?

  That's how she, you know, she knew. She knew like how, what was the best environment to create comedy.

• 2:00:35Speaker 01

  So Paulie Shore was a stand-up first?

• 2:00:38Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:00:38Speaker 01

  Really, I didn't even realize that.

• 2:00:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, Paulie's been a stand-up forever.

• 2:00:42Speaker 01

  I just knew, I just, when I was young, I, like, he was like, in movies and shit that I liked. He was like, he was like that, he was like that actor, where's it at?

• 2:00:51Joe Rogan?

  Um, yeah, well, he started in stand-up. I mean, he, he used to get babysat by Sam Kinison.

• 2:00:56Speaker 01

  Oh, my god. You gotta be a fucking funny guy after that one. Could that be my babysitter?

• 2:01:02Joe Rogan?

  There's some things you don't want to learn when you're that young.

• 2:01:04Speaker 01

  I mean...

• 2:01:05Joe Rogan?

  You don't want to learn from Sam.

• 2:01:08Speaker 01

  I kinda do. I kinda, I don't know, I had some pretty fucking, some interesting characters raised me also.

• 2:01:16Joe Rogan?

  I'm just so glad that the Comedy Store's still around. I was really worried about them during the pandemic when they were closed for like a fucking year. The, the whole thing was so insane. It took so long before LA allowed them to open up.

• 2:01:28Speaker 01

  Can I ask you something, honestly?

• 2:01:30Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:01:30Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 2:01:34Speaker 01

  The comics of today, do you find them, it's just because we've aged a little bit? And we find different things, like, do you find them as funny as you found people that you looked up to, like your elders? Do you find these younger guys funny, like, can you vibe with it?

• 2:01:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I definitely could vibe with it. You know, as far as like...

• 2:01:54Speaker 01

  Do they make you cackle the way these other fucking guys did?

• 2:01:57Joe Rogan?

  For sure, for sure. It depends on who you're watching.

• 2:01:59Speaker 01

  You know who I like? I like Stavi.

• 2:02:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, Stavi's hilarious.

• 2:02:02Speaker 01

  Stavros fucking?

• 2:02:03Joe Rogan?

  Stavros is hilarious. There's more funny comics now, I think, than ever.

• 2:02:08Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:02:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think so. Yeah, it's a really good time for like up and coming people, new people. There's like a lot of like excitement about comedy. You know, and then there's Kill Tony, which is like this awesome platform for them. So there's so many people that are getting into that. No, I wasn't there last night.

• 2:02:23Speaker 01

  Cause I drove by the, by the, by the mothership and it was fucking cranking.

• 2:02:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that was Kill Tony night. Um, I wasn't there last night, but Ari Shaffir was there, Luis J Gomez was there. So it was, it was a great, great setup and it's always a good show. It's always a fun show. And that gives people legit opportunity to get on stage and either to get on YouTube or to get on Netflix in front of the whole fucking world. And it could make your career. It could make your life. It could change everything.

• 2:02:52Speaker 01

  It's not like a voice type of vibe. It's more of like a fucking real show and it just people see you there. It's not like a competition.

• 2:03:00Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, there's no competition, but you do get one minute and if you do well, Tony invites you back. Yeah, not judged, but you get feedback from the comics or everybody's just fucking around. It's all very loose and open.

• 2:03:13Speaker 01

  Showtime at the Apollo, you get yanked?

• 2:03:15Joe Rogan?

  No, you don't get yanked. You get your one minute.

• 2:03:17Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:03:18Joe Rogan?

  And if you suck, Tony roasts you and you know, but sometimes the people that suck, they know they suck and they're really funny talking about how they sucked. It's just a great show, but it's just an opportunity where comedians see there's a path. All I have to do is like keep doing open mics, put together an act, start getting a little road work, do Kill Tony. And then next thing you know, I'm headlining on the road like all these other guys that have become regulars on the show.

• 2:03:43Speaker 01

  There's a clear path to it.

• 2:03:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like you could really make a living and have a real career in comedy. So because of that, it's like comedy is really exciting right now. It's like, and because of YouTube, because you could put your special, just you don't need like-

• 2:03:55Speaker 01

  You don't need big guys, you put it right up.

• 2:03:57Joe Rogan?

  Anything, just upload it onto YouTube, next thing you know, it's got a million views. Holy shit, you're off and running. And then people could, the best thing about YouTube is people could share it. You could see a funny comedy special, they're, "Oh shit, you gotta watch this." You send it to me, I'm like, "Ah!", and then I'll send it to him. And that's how things happen. It's like, that never existed before, so that paves the way for more comics to be encouraged to try it. Cause there's an, if you got a work ethic and you're willing to do it, there's, there's an actual path to having a career.

• 2:04:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, because before it had, it was like a little bit like luck, you had to meet the right person. And now there's like, like getting to the major leagues. You go through the minors, you go through here, it's clear-

• 2:04:35Joe Rogan?

  What's the pathway for rappers?

• 2:04:38Speaker 01

  I don't know. There's really none. Nowadays, it's, I, I believe it's all the same thing, you just, you, you choose your own path.

• 2:04:45Joe Rogan?

  You just become mayor?

• 2:04:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, hopefully. You fucking kidding me? I'd love to do that. The mayor, if I could be the mayor.

• 2:04:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you could be the mayor.

• 2:04:53Speaker 01

  Just, someone gotta feed me some, some political situations that are good. Good things only, I don't wanna do anything bad. No, but like, the, the path to being a rapper, there's really, first off, you have to be just nice, you have to be good. You shouldn't be doing it if you suck.

• 2:05:08Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:05:08Speaker 01

  And some, your friends should tell you, "Yo, listen, this is not for you. Let's step away from this and do something else."

• 2:05:14Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:05:15Speaker 01

  You have to have good people around you. I had a lot of people around me that are fucking straight up haters. Very raw deal people, and no one told me to stop.

• 2:05:23Joe Rogan?

  Of course.

• 2:05:23Speaker 01

  And that inspired me to keep going. And honestly, you just have to have it within you, this is, you either have it or you don't. There's, this, I've been around here now sixteen years, and I've seen a lot of fucking people come and go. But I've been a constant, and I don't even think I've peaked in any area of life, yet.

• 2:05:46Speaker 01

  Truly. I feel like I'm, I'm on the brink of. I'm always on the brink of, of, of a new exploration, a new breakthrough. And that's how I take things, cause I don't like, I don't wanna be stagnant, I, I, I look older. I'm visibly grizzled. I'm visibly Sean Connery'd. But because I started later, I, you didn't see me as a fucking fifteen year old kid jumping around. Right. I came in as a twenty-seven year old man. Right. So you've seen me throughout the years, I've just now, I'm more of a man. Right. So I didn't start as a little baby face, you know? A lot of these kids, you see them sixteen years later, they look the exact same because you saw them at thirteen.

• 2:06:28Speaker 01

  Not me. Right, I hear you. You know? Yeah. Well, that's a great attitude anyway. If you're just continuing to improve at something. That's a great way to live life. I just like learning, man, I like, I love new experiences, I'm the. I wanna fucking like, I'm just finding new things that I love every single day of life. That's awesome. Truthfully, man, I got, I feel, I feel blessed and special to have those type of outlets where I don't have to like, search for shit and things, just like. Hobbies fall in my lap. They do because I just, I, I really, I'm a connoisseur of many things in life that I love. What other hobbies do you like? Like I said, I love gardening, I love overlanding now, I love, I wanna take my. You go overlanding? I wanna take my truck everywhere now, I wanna. What kinda truck you got? I got a Sequoia.

• 2:07:13Speaker 01

  Ooh. Brand new, twenty-six. It was the best purchase I've ever made in my life. They never break? They never break. And New York was so fucking heavy duty this, I, I was like in war mode, there was nothing stopping me. Right, four-wheel drive. Eight-hundred wheel drive that car got. It got power like you can't believe, it's perfect. Toyotas are hard to go wrong. I love Toyota. Hard to go wrong with a Toyota. I love Toyota, I had Jeeps for a while. But I started, my mother had the eighty-three Toyota Celica. That was our first car, we called it Brownie, it got us everywhere. Then we made the change to the ninety-four Jeep Grand Cherokee forest green. We had that for a long time until we got the Hyundai Sonata that I got stolen by accident.

• 2:07:56Speaker 01

  You know, it was the morning before, that was the night before the Brett, the Brett Favre jet experiment that was gonna happen, you know, he fi- he went to the Jets. I went to the store in my underwear. That I always do, up the block from my house. Bought a vanilla Dutch and a set for life. And two fucking kids jumped in the car and just dipped.

• 2:08:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no.

• 2:08:17Speaker 01

  So.

• 2:08:17Joe Rogan?

  And you were in your underwear?

• 2:08:18Speaker 01

  I was in my underwear. I had to fucking, I had to make the police report in underwear. Why are you in underwear? First off, that was the first question. Why are you in underwear?

• 2:08:26Joe Rogan?

  That's a solid question.

• 2:08:27Speaker 01

  I said, should I take them off?

• 2:08:30Speaker 01

  You want me to take them off? Were you crazy?

• 2:08:31Joe Rogan?

  It does make the situation weirder.

• 2:08:34Speaker 01

  It makes it all weirder. Why I left with underwear on only.

• 2:08:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:38Speaker 01

  It was hot out.

• 2:08:39Joe Rogan?

  I wouldn't advise that.

• 2:08:39Speaker 01

  No, no, don't, don't do that. Even if you're going to your local store.

• 2:08:44Joe Rogan?

  Did you, uh, do things to this Sequoia? Did you put a lift on it? What'd you do?

• 2:08:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, I put, I put the lift on it.

• 2:08:49Joe Rogan?

  Did you change the tires?

• 2:08:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, some thirty-five, some Toyos.

• 2:08:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh shit, look at you.

• 2:08:53Speaker 01

  I went nuts. I got the crazy rack.

• 2:08:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you got a roof rack, the whole deal?

• 2:08:58Speaker 01

  I even got a roof rack.

• 2:09:00Joe Rogan?

  Nice.

• 2:09:01Speaker 01

  No, but I really, you know, I'm trying to throw the Dobinson's kit on there, so it's really lifted and I wanna go, I wanna do like a Dakar Rally vibe.

• 2:09:10Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so do you wanna take this and just go out into the woods and camp out for a while?

• 2:09:14Speaker 01

  I wanna do that too, but I wanna drive to the unknown.

• 2:09:17Joe Rogan?

  Drive over weird shit?

• 2:09:19Speaker 01

  Through the unknown. There's a trip that these guys are- It's probably not. It's not the move. It's too big, it's too burly, I need-

• 2:09:25Joe Rogan?

  Old Land Cruisers are the move.

• 2:09:27Speaker 01

  I need it.

• 2:09:28Joe Rogan?

  Like eighty series Land Cruisers?

• 2:09:29Speaker 01

  I need something that's a little bit more mobile, you're right. I've been looking to go maybe Mitsubishi Pajero.

• 2:09:37Joe Rogan?

  Mmm.

• 2:09:37Speaker 01

  Right-hand drive or-

• 2:09:39Joe Rogan?

  You know what's real good is, uh, the Lexus GX.

• 2:09:42Speaker 01

  Oh, that's the one.

• 2:09:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:09:44Speaker 01

  A little smaller. Comfort. Comfort.

• 2:09:46Joe Rogan?

  But also a lot of dudes take those and put lifts on them and there's a lot of aftermarket stuff available for them.

• 2:09:52Speaker 01

  Because it's so luxury.

• 2:09:54Joe Rogan?

  And they're so fucking reliable.

• 2:09:55Speaker 01

  That Toyota motor.

• 2:09:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you can't go wrong with Toyotas.

• 2:09:58Speaker 01

  Bro, I'm trying to, Toyota holler at me, come on, I'm the person-

• 2:10:01Joe Rogan?

  Holler at him, Toyota? Yeah, I have a ninety-five Land Cruiser. Yeah, I love those things.

• 2:10:08Speaker 01

  Champagne?

• 2:10:09Joe Rogan?

  No, it's silver.

• 2:10:10Speaker 01

  Silver.

• 2:10:11Joe Rogan?

  Silver. It's Lexus Atomic Silver. I had it painted.

• 2:10:14Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 2:10:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's dope.

• 2:10:16Speaker 01

  She gets me crazy.

• 2:10:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:10:18Speaker 01

  And that fucking thing you got, the Raptor, the Hennessy?

• 2:10:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, I got that too.

• 2:10:21Speaker 01

  More than the Hennessy. What is it, the fucking VSOP?

• 2:10:25Joe Rogan?

  No, it's the Hennessy. It's the Hennessy one thousand. So it's a, they take a Raptor R and turn it into a one thousand horsepower pickup truck. It's ridiculous. Totally necessary.

• 2:10:33Speaker 01

  It's one hundred percent. Do you overland here?

• 2:10:36Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:10:37Speaker 01

  Just fucking drive the streets?

• 2:10:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, I've taken it out to ranches before, though. I've taken it hunting.

• 2:10:42Speaker 01

  You need, you need, you need that vehicle for the ranch.

• 2:10:44Joe Rogan?

  It helps. It definitely helps when you're getting over stuff. Those things are, they have so much wheel travel, those Raptors. They're so good, especially the Hennessy, because it's even more lifted. It's so good at articulating over spaces.

• 2:10:55Speaker 01

  Independent, the independent arms?

• 2:10:57Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's just, the suspension is designed to be pliable, right? It's like when you're going over fucked up ground, it like moves with it.

• 2:11:04Speaker 01

  One tire will be up here, the other one will be there.

• 2:11:06Joe Rogan?

  The old Land Cruisers is that they all had solid axles, front and rear. That's like a real hardcore off-roading vehicle. You know, the solid axles are just, it's so durable. And because it turns, like the so, you've seen like guys going overlanding with Land Cruisers? Where they have like the crazy wheel travel.

• 2:11:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:11:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:11:29Speaker 01

  With the, the rocks, where you're going over like...

• 2:11:31Joe Rogan?

  Dudes get obsessed with those weird trails, like just getting up them.

• 2:11:34Speaker 01

  I'm starting to be. I'm just, it's the, the, the, the burn, the burn is there. I'm just, little by little, it's a... Soon you'll see me in fucking Moab going crazy through the rocks, for real.

• 2:11:45Joe Rogan?

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• 2:13:54Speaker 01

  How much fun is that to put shit on things?

• 2:13:56Joe Rogan?

  Oh, so fun.

• 2:13:57Speaker 01

  Like to fucking soup things up.

• 2:13:58Joe Rogan?

  So exciting.

• 2:14:01Speaker 01

  I'm working on a, I'm working on an 87 M6 right now that I've had just sitting there in my garage for 12 years.

• 2:14:07Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:14:07Speaker 01

  About to give it a new life.

• 2:14:08Joe Rogan?

  What are you gonna do to it?

• 2:14:09Speaker 01

  Baja.

• 2:14:11Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:14:11Speaker 01

  Making it a rally car, lifting it.

• 2:14:13Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit.

• 2:14:13Speaker 01

  Big wheels.

• 2:14:15Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:14:17Speaker 01

  I'm done dropping things. I'm only lifting things now.

• 2:14:20Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 2:14:20Speaker 01

  I've dropped every fucking BMW I ever had to the ground, which is scraping.

• 2:14:24Joe Rogan?

  You're subconsciously preparing for the end of civilization.

• 2:14:27Speaker 01

  Bro, I think so.

• 2:14:28Joe Rogan?

  You're gonna have to go off the roads.

• 2:14:29Speaker 01

  I got the Japanese GI Joe truck.

• 2:14:33Speaker 01

  I'm prepping everything.

• 2:14:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you have an apocalypse vehicle. Yeah, I, I recommend those. You should get one. When things go sideways, you gotta have something that can go away from the road.

• 2:14:42Speaker 01

  Hundred percent.

• 2:14:43Joe Rogan?

  Cause if you're stuck in a Ferrari and you're on the highway, you're stuck.

• 2:14:47Speaker 01

  I can't even get in the fucking thing right now. I could, but it wouldn't be as good.

• 2:14:51Joe Rogan?

  It sucks.

• 2:14:52Speaker 01

  It's those seats that hug your ass.

• 2:14:55Speaker 01

  I don't want anyone hugging my ass.

• 2:14:56Joe Rogan?

  Little tying guy with a cigarette, maybe.

• 2:14:57Speaker 01

  Exactly, fucking with his legs crossed in the car.

• 2:15:00Joe Rogan?

  Like this. Like the real deep bend.

• 2:15:03Speaker 01

  Bro, who could cross their legs with the deep bend? My nuts don't allow that. It's a European thing.

• 2:15:09Joe Rogan?

  Arshafir does it. He sits like that, but he's tall.

• 2:15:12Speaker 01

  Ask him about his nuts. What do they do when that, when that happens?

• 2:15:15Joe Rogan?

  Tucks them in there somewhere. They go in the space, the gap, the gap between the two legs, you know?

• 2:15:23Speaker 01

  That's a crazy way to sit for your own subconscious to know that's how you're sitting.

• 2:15:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:27Speaker 01

  That your shit's tucked.

• 2:15:28Joe Rogan?

  You're crushing nuts. I can't do it. Well, you and I both have tree trunk legs.

• 2:15:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's true. There's no way.

• 2:15:33Joe Rogan?

  Get the, it won't work like that. It doesn't go over there like that.

• 2:15:37Speaker 01

  I could barely do a little cross at the ankle.

• 2:15:39Joe Rogan?

  Adam Carolla talks about this. He's like, it's a thing that like liberals do to let you know that they think the way you think.

• 2:15:45Speaker 01

  To sit like that is unreal.

• 2:15:47Joe Rogan?

  It's like they've got this like cross, like, well, it's like a feminine expression. I'm not threatening. I'm basically progressive. You know, I'm, you know, I've, I've got the legs in the proper position.

• 2:15:59Speaker 01

  Yes, letting you know.

• 2:16:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:16:00Speaker 01

  It's all body language.

• 2:16:02Joe Rogan?

  Whereas Trump sits like this with his like his hands over his balls.

• 2:16:05Speaker 01

  Fucking.

• 2:16:05Joe Rogan?

  He holds his hands.

• 2:16:06Speaker 01

  Everything's open.

• 2:16:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's got like the hova right over his cock.

• 2:16:18Joe Rogan?

  So ridiculous.

• 2:16:19Speaker 01

  Oh, man.

• 2:16:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, women always get mad on subways because men, man, man spread. But the reason why is our, that's how our hips are designed. What is this? The microphones running on his cock? That's ridiculous.

• 2:16:30Speaker 01

  Oh, man.

• 2:16:31Joe Rogan?

  That is ridiculous.

• 2:16:33Speaker 01

  It's a funny picture.

• 2:16:34Joe Rogan?

  So how did Ancient Aliens, that show that you did, you getting high watching Ancient Aliens, how'd that even start?

• 2:16:40Speaker 01

  Vice was about to fucking take over the History Channel.

• 2:16:44Joe Rogan?

  And they just needed content?

• 2:16:45Speaker 01

  No. I was like, yo, you guys are fucking bugging. You're not taking this off. This has to stay. Like, like, yo, ancient alien, this comes with vice, like, this is now gonna be transferred. And they were like, I don't know if we could do it. So I had to go and speak to the homie who invented it. He gave me his blessings. I sat with him for like four hours. He was talking shit to me, whatever.

• 2:17:11Speaker 01

  Convinced him. He was, I was like, yo, this is not a joke. Like, everything is tongue in cheek and ridiculous, but this is how it makes us feel. I'm a proponent. I'm a believer. If I need to talk to Giorgio Sucalos, bring him here. Whatever. So he believed me and he like, he gave us the blessing. He recently, he didn't recently pass, but he passed a couple of years ago and.

• 2:17:34Joe Rogan?

  Well, who did, Giorgio?

• 2:17:35Speaker 01

  No, not Giorgio, but the, the, the main, the main creator. Name is fucking.

• 2:17:40Joe Rogan?

  Giorgio's the meme.

• 2:17:42Speaker 01

  He's the meme, yeah, he's the hair.

• 2:17:43Joe Rogan?

  I'm not saying it's aliens.

• 2:17:44Speaker 01

  He's the hair.

• 2:17:45Joe Rogan?

  But it's aliens.

• 2:17:46Speaker 01

  But there's a lot of other sicko dudes on there that I like.

• 2:17:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Well, there's a lot of people.

• 2:17:50Speaker 01

  Von Eric, the guy who just died also.

• 2:17:52Joe Rogan?

  Von Daniken?

• 2:17:52Speaker 01

  Von Dennett, yeah.

• 2:17:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Eric Von Daniken, yeah. I met him.

• 2:17:57Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:17:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, my friend Eric Weinstein brought me to a lunch where he was at and I, I had a chance to talk to him about what he believes and all this stuff. He was all in on the idea that aliens definitely came down here and built everything. I'm more of a believer that there was a, an ending of civilization and a rebirth of it. And that what we're looking at is some incredible technology that humans had invented a long fucking time ago. And that's what's responsible for all these structures that we don't understand. Like, the ones in Mexico are crazy, man. They didn't know, they just uncovered those. I didn't know that until like, not that long ago.

• 2:18:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, these were.

• 2:18:37Joe Rogan?

  The Az- I thought the Aztecs built all that shit.

• 2:18:40Speaker 01

  Well, think about all these things that they're finding now. Like, I, I've seen recently, like, all these pyramids they're finding in Antarctica and. Yeah, like.

• 2:18:49Joe Rogan?

  Well, I know that there's one.

• 2:18:50Speaker 01

  These like, these.

• 2:18:51Joe Rogan?

  Mountain.

• 2:18:51Speaker 01

  Or in China.

• 2:18:52Joe Rogan?

  Odd looking.

• 2:18:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, the odd looking, uh, the odd looking, uh, nature of it, there's like. domes and like

• 2:19:00Joe Rogan?

  it looks like

• 2:19:00Speaker 01

  points underneath

• 2:19:01Joe Rogan?

  it looks weird though that one looks weird there's a bunch of them in the Amazon that look really weird

• 2:19:06Speaker 01

  like when they do the light are underneath the riverbed there's like civilization under there there's like true civilization in certain areas of the Amazon

• 2:19:16Joe Rogan?

  yeah I have a friend of mine Luke caverns who goes and explores these things all the time and we were actually just talking about one of them that I think is in Peru um I sent it to him and I asked him I said hey is this legit and he's like yeah absolutely not only is it legit but you can't get there like it's a really hard place to visit it's almost impossible to get there and no one's really looked into it in terms of like here here it is I found it

• 2:19:40Speaker 01

  so what they do it overhead

• 2:19:41Joe Rogan?

  well they have images of it and you look at the image and you're like whoa what is going on here like this is weird like the image here I'm

• 2:19:48Speaker 01

  like full civilization along the bank

• 2:19:51Joe Rogan?

  well it's in the middle I think it's deep in the jungle and I think it's very difficult to get to but the thing is a lot of the jungle a lot of the Amazon a lot of this stuff is there's areas where people don't necessarily know how many people were living there a thousand years ago or two thousand years ago it could have been like densely packed like look at that

• 2:20:10Speaker 01

  that looks like a densely packed area with people

• 2:20:13Joe Rogan?

  what the fuck is that like that does not look that's the AI version but go back to that that's a real picture bro that does not look natural at all it doesn't match anything around it

• 2:20:24Speaker 01

  that's crazy

• 2:20:25Joe Rogan?

  it looks like something that someone built it doesn't mean that it's something that someone built and it might just be that angle right if you look at it from the other side it might look like bullshit but from that angle right there

• 2:20:36Speaker 01

  there's angles of there's isosceles right there there's

• 2:20:45Speaker 01

  how this triangular situations going on like

• 2:20:51Joe Rogan?

  They're saying, but it said in that image-

• 2:20:52Speaker 01

  But it don't look like it's four sides, it looked like five side, boom, boom, boom-

• 2:20:56Joe Rogan?

  It's hard to say. No, it could be four, it just could be four. Because where it is, if you just reverse it, you just reverse what you're saying. So it says, "Geologists refer to this formation as Cerro Elcano, attributing its sharp angles and pyramid-like structure to the slow, patient work of wind, rain, and erosion over countless centuries." Or, someone built it. Like, if you're not exploring it and you're saying that this thing that looks just like a pyramid, you think it was made by pyramid, by, by slow, patient work of wind and rain?

• 2:21:27Speaker 01

  But there's no other, there's no other rock around it, why didn't the patience happen there? This is a straight-up plain.

• 2:21:33Joe Rogan?

  It doesn't make any sense.

• 2:21:33Speaker 01

  This is a jungle plain.

• 2:21:35Joe Rogan?

  That looks like a person built it, those are right angles. And it's covered with bushes, so you gotta think, like, what did it look like when it- And they haven't gone and checked it out. I'll tell you what Luke said to me, because Luke is actually an expert in this stuff, this is what he does, he goes and visits these places. Um, and he was telling me, it's like, this stuff is so strange because they, there's a bunch of these kind of structures that are in the jungle, all of them haven't been explored, and there's a lot of resistance. He says, "It's deep and uncontacted tribe land, there's a small river that can get you within the 25-mile mark." He said, "It's crazy out there."

• 2:22:13Joe Rogan?

  So it's just like, you just have a really difficult time in getting to it. I mean, there's a river that can get you within 25 miles of it, like, okay.

• 2:22:21Speaker 01

  And then, and then what?

• 2:22:22Joe Rogan?

  And then you gotta walk through the jungle, 25 miles to get there. What, what does it look like on Google Earth?

• 2:22:28Joe Rogan?

  What does it look like, though? Get that's- I know, but get that stupid little dot off of it.

• 2:22:33Speaker 01

  It's right at the border of Peru and Brazil?

• 2:22:35Joe Rogan?

  Bro. What is, what's under there?

• 2:22:40Joe Rogan?

  I wanna know what's under there.

• 2:22:44Joe Rogan?

  Boy, that does look like a fucking pyramid, man. That looks like a pyramid that's covered with bushes.

• 2:22:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, in the middle of nowhere.

• 2:22:52Joe Rogan?

  They find all kinds of-

• 2:22:53Speaker 01

  Those are other ones?

• 2:22:54Speaker 00

  Hey, look at that. They're, it's in a similar line and there's-

• 2:22:57Speaker 01

  It looks like it's in a, it's in a pattern of a star in the sky.

• 2:23:00Joe Rogan?

  Right, like the great pyramids are-

• 2:23:02Speaker 01

  The tree, the three, boom, boom, boom, and then that.

• 2:23:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's weird. Oh, here's another one. Did you see that they think that there's a second Sphinx in Egypt?

• 2:23:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:23:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so they've done scans of this area where a second Sphinx would be, and there's something under the sand that's the size of a Sphinx.

• 2:23:18Speaker 01

  Would it be next to the, to the original one?

• 2:23:20Joe Rogan?

  It's in the same area, like the same area, so you have your pyramids and then there's a Sphinx, and on the opposite side, there's another Sphinx.

• 2:23:27Speaker 01

  But the Sphinx isn't the Sphinx, it was something else. The face was something else, right?

• 2:23:31Joe Rogan?

  They think. They think the face was a lion's face and then a pharaoh-

• 2:23:35Speaker 01

  Or like that dog, that like long dog? That long, not, the long snouted dog that they have?

• 2:23:40Joe Rogan?

  Could be. I don't think they think it's that, though. I think they think it's a lion.

• 2:23:47Joe Rogan?

  And so, there's one exactly opposite of it.

• 2:23:51Speaker 01

  I mean-

• 2:23:52Joe Rogan?

  And so, this one, what does it look like when they showed that image, the scan?

• 2:23:56Speaker 00

  I mean, I don't think there's anything there.

• 2:23:58Joe Rogan?

  But what did the scan say?

• 2:24:00Speaker 00

  I don't-

• 2:24:00Joe Rogan?

  Would you scroll up? See, that's a scan. And it said something above it? It said, "Scans hinting at complex megastructure beneath the Giza Plateau." And so...

• 2:24:13Joe Rogan?

  Satellite images of the Giza Plateau reportedly captured this dune, which the sig- the signal processing researcher claims measures approximately 108 feet tall. The first Sphinx sits slightly below the surrounding surface in a shallow depression, so it's quite possible the second Sphinx could be hidden beneath this higher mound. So it's in the right position where a second Sphinx would be? Cause I think-

• 2:24:40Speaker 01

  Side by side? Would they be side by side?

• 2:24:43Joe Rogan?

  No, I don't think so. I think they, it's like, the pyramids are in the center, Sphinx going that way, Sphinx going that way. I think that's the idea. Do Sphinx, uh, appear in pairs more than once? Are they, were they looking for it because that's a normal, like, setup?

• 2:25:01Joe Rogan?

  Like, what's the normal configuration of sphinxes? Yes, sphinxes frequently appear in pairs. In ancient Egypt, Greek and Roman art, often acting as guardians in pairs, or long avenues at temple entrances, rather than as solitary monuments like the Great Sphinx.

• 2:25:16Speaker 01

  I mean, that makes sense, right? If they're facing opposite ways also, that one's guarding the exit, one's both entrances?

• 2:25:22Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 2:25:23Speaker 00

  They're pretty far away from each other, though.

• 2:25:24Joe Rogan?

  Right, but far in relative position to how far the sphinx is from the pyramids in the first place.

• 2:25:29Speaker 00

  Well, then we'd have to ask, like, do they appear in pairs far away from each other, not next to each other? Because that's sort of saying, like, they're guarding doors next to each other.

• 2:25:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's guarding, I understand, but...

• 2:25:40Speaker 01

  Or just entrances, if there's two entrances, you need them.

• 2:25:42Joe Rogan?

  Well, let's put that into perplexity. Ask it, when sphinxes appear in pairs, uh, what is the configuration?

• 2:25:55Joe Rogan?

  What is the configuration?

• 2:25:59Joe Rogan?

  What is the config- what configuration?

• 2:26:04Joe Rogan?

  So, maybe it'll tell us there and give us... Maybe they are, like, right next to each other, and then this doesn't make any sense. Both Egyptian art and architecture, sphinxes very often appear in pairs, usually flanking an axis, such as a road, doorway, or staircase. Sorry, right, so like, two in front of a doorway. Um, temple approaches, rows or pairs of sphinxes, commonly line the processional roads, uh, with one on each side of the central path. So, usually like, on two sides of a door. Gates and door, gateways and doorways, pair of sphinx. Orientation idea, modern popular writers often say, "One faces east, and the other faces west." Okay, well, that's different.

• 2:26:43Speaker 01

  That's, that's what, that's what they would've found.

• 2:26:45Joe Rogan?

  So, it's possible that they did it in several different ways, but often in twos. So, if they do have one big sphinx, and there's another...

• 2:26:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it's pulling, it's pulling that from a Facebook post, talking about this potential second one.

• 2:26:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, interesting, interesting. So, it might be horseshit.

• 2:27:02Speaker 00

  Just a grain of salt with it, is all.

• 2:27:03Joe Rogan?

  Right. We won't know until they get in there, but if they, if it is there, and it's just under sand, that's not that big of a deal, because they had to uncover this one.

• 2:27:12Speaker 01

  How long does it take to excavate these things?

• 2:27:15Joe Rogan?

  It'll take a while, I mean, it's a lot of sand.

• 2:27:17Speaker 01

  Like...

• 2:27:17Joe Rogan?

  But it depends on how many workers, how many machines. Also, they have to do it carefully.

• 2:27:21Speaker 01

  Oh, my, they can't fuck...

• 2:27:22Joe Rogan?

  Because you want to make sure you don't fuck up the sphinx. But if there is a sphinx under there, that would be fucking nuts. They found a second sphinx and they dug it out and they're like, oh shit.

• 2:27:32Speaker 00

  Look at that sphinx.

• 2:27:33Joe Rogan?

  Ooh.

• 2:27:34Speaker 00

  It's a lady's head.

• 2:27:36Joe Rogan?

  With one today.

• 2:27:37Speaker 01

  The nurturer.

• 2:27:39Joe Rogan?

  That's weird. What a weird head. Like it's got pointy ears, right? Are those ears pointy or is that just where the hair goes?

• 2:27:44Speaker 00

  Hair.

• 2:27:46Joe Rogan?

  How weird.

• 2:27:47Speaker 00

  Fail.

• 2:27:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, maybe it was a chick. And they're like, nah, I'll make it my face.

• 2:27:53Speaker 00

  It's like one big breast.

• 2:27:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, one hard one.

• 2:27:55Speaker 01

  Fucking arm is jacked.

• 2:27:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't like it. A little too much.

• 2:27:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, total recall, three breasts if you want.

• 2:28:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and it weird that we like two, but we don't like three?

• 2:28:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, three is fucking.

• 2:28:06Joe Rogan?

  Three is gross.

• 2:28:07Speaker 01

  Cause it's weird, that middle part, you don't, you don't, you want the separation natural, you don't want like a third. It's like a fucking weird ornament.

• 2:28:14Joe Rogan?

  A girl would have to be to pull off a third tit?

• 2:28:18Joe Rogan?

  They'd be like, I'm, I think I like it. I didn't like it when I first met her, but now I really like it. Why not? Why not?

• 2:28:24Speaker 01

  Why not? We're in the future, total recall.

• 2:28:27Joe Rogan?

  But if it was normal to have three boobs, that's what we would like. That's what's weird. Like the female shape, the desired female shape, like the fertility doll shape. It's, it's very weird how that could have been a bunch of different shapes. Like for an ant, it's something a little honey on its ass.

• 2:28:42Speaker 01

  Exactly. This is what we, but this is also a thing. Why are we so obsessed with ass? I don't know. I am obsessed with an ass. And shit comes from it. Like you shit. Horrible things from your ass, but yet I love looking at that ass.

• 2:28:57Joe Rogan?

  People are complex.

• 2:28:57Speaker 01

  And I dream of biting that ass. Like why? When I know fecal comes from it.

• 2:29:03Joe Rogan?

  People are confusing. We're confusing to each other.

• 2:29:07Speaker 01

  I'm confused at myself.

• 2:29:09Joe Rogan?

  You should be.

• 2:29:09Speaker 01

  I really am. But I love myself. Mike Tyson told me to never speak bad about myself because my conscious doesn't. My subconscious doesn't know whether I'm joking or not.

• 2:29:21Joe Rogan?

  Right. Ooh, that's wise.

• 2:29:23Speaker 01

  I think he heard that from fucking Bruce Lee though. I'm not gonna lie. I heard Bruce Lee say that on some shit recently. I was like, damn, Mike. And then I heard Bruce Lee say it.

• 2:29:30Joe Rogan?

  There's something true to that, for sure.

• 2:29:32Speaker 01

  There's no doubt.

• 2:29:32Joe Rogan?

  No doubt. Yeah.

• 2:29:34Speaker 01

  You know, I always call myself a jerk or a schmuck. I'm not.

• 2:29:37Joe Rogan?

  What's this, Jamie?

• 2:29:38Speaker 00

  I'm looking at the oldest known pictures of the sphinx.

• 2:29:41Joe Rogan?

  This is the oldest known? So part of it's still underground?

• 2:29:43Speaker 00

  Somewhere on eighteen fifty to eighteen sixty.

• 2:29:45Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 2:29:46Speaker 00

  I'm trying to find the year on, uh, this was actually eighteen ninety-two.

• 2:29:50Speaker 01

  That's nuts.

• 2:29:51Speaker 00

  It just, it looks so strange.

• 2:29:53Joe Rogan?

  The whole thing's so strange, man. That place is so old. Just, even if you just go by what they think, which is 4,500 years ago they built this thing. That's so crazy. That's so fucking long ago.

• 2:30:07Speaker 01

  Well, now they're gonna have fucking Rico Verhoeven and, uh, and who else fight there, right?

• 2:30:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, Usik.

• 2:30:13Speaker 01

  And Usik and fucking Verhoeven fight there.

• 2:30:16Joe Rogan?

  That's nuts.

• 2:30:17Speaker 01

  That's kinda bugged out.

• 2:30:18Joe Rogan?

  It is kinda bugged out.

• 2:30:19Speaker 01

  But I like the idea of using...

• 2:30:22Joe Rogan?

  The backdrop?

• 2:30:22Speaker 01

  No, the natural arenas.

• 2:30:24Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:30:25Speaker 01

  Natural wonders arena. We should have it in Rome. We should have it, you know.

• 2:30:28Joe Rogan?

  By the way, it's hot as fuck out there.

• 2:30:31Speaker 01

  It's, and the sandstorms. You know, how's this gonna work?

• 2:30:34Joe Rogan?

  What are they gonna do?

• 2:30:35Speaker 01

  How's this gonna work?

• 2:30:35Joe Rogan?

  Right, what if there's a fucking sandstorm in the middle of the fight and they get sand in their eyes? They're swinging blind.

• 2:30:39Speaker 01

  They fucking tried to do it in Times Square. It was a mess.

• 2:30:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that didn't work out so well. The fights weren't that good either. Except Tia Fimo. Tia Fimo fought really well.

• 2:30:47Speaker 01

  Well, you gotta have, you, this, you gotta bring the right people.

• 2:30:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, someone was saying that it's almost like they're paying them so much that these guys are scared to lose. That they're, they're, you know what I mean? Like, that was the argument about that, that Times Square card.

• 2:31:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:31:03Joe Rogan?

  Because the Saudis came in and just like, rolling that ring truck.

• 2:31:08Speaker 01

  They don't like rap, huh?

• 2:31:13Joe Rogan?

  They probably do.

• 2:31:13Speaker 01

  Well, they haven't hollered at me.

• 2:31:18Speaker 01

  Oh, man. I don't think, I would go there.

• 2:31:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:31:22Speaker 01

  I'd be interested in seeing the Middle East. I'd be interesting to see, it'd be interesting to see all these places, man. I've been to a lot of places on earth, but never over there.

• 2:31:31Joe Rogan?

  I've been to Dubai, uh, briefly for a UFC weigh-in, and the UFC, which was in Abu Dhabi.

• 2:31:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:31:38Joe Rogan?

  So I've been there for that.

• 2:31:39Speaker 01

  And?

• 2:31:40Joe Rogan?

  It was great. That was a long time ago. But, uh, obviously, it was the best possible conditions. I'm there with the UFC. Staying in a nice hotel. A lot of money over there, man, I'll tell you that. Like, when you're in Dubai, and this was quite a while ago. So Dubai's even crazier now. I mean, the construction there is just nuts. It's just so fucking, like, high-tech and everything's beautiful and no crime.

• 2:32:05Speaker 01

  Looks like it seems like a great place to be.

• 2:32:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I know people that have moved to Dubai just because there's no crime.

• 2:32:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, but there's no hash either.

• 2:32:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, right.

• 2:32:14Speaker 01

  There's hash, but they're not letting you smoke it.

• 2:32:15Joe Rogan?

  Bro, you get caught with that, you go to jail forever.

• 2:32:18Speaker 01

  Bro, they're the ones who've been making it for fucking millions of years, what the hell?

• 2:32:21Joe Rogan?

  I know, isn't that crazy?

• 2:32:22Speaker 01

  What are they doing? They're keeping it for themselves.

• 2:32:24Joe Rogan?

  I wonder why they make it so illegal over there? It doesn't make sense.

• 2:32:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:32:28Joe Rogan?

  You know, because if they didn't, I wonder if they're just worried about like people behaving foolishly? Because they don't have any tolerance for fucking around over there.

• 2:32:36Speaker 01

  Well, you fucking see Amsterdam, that place is a goddamn mess when it comes to weed. Even since they made weed legal in America, in some places, it's a fucking, it's a, it's a carnival. It's terrible.

• 2:32:47Joe Rogan?

  Amsterdam is?

• 2:32:48Speaker 01

  Huh?

• 2:32:49Joe Rogan?

  Amsterdam is?

• 2:32:49Speaker 01

  No, no, no, just places in America also, like New York, now that weed is legal, it's disgraceful.

• 2:32:55Joe Rogan?

  What, in what way?

• 2:32:56Speaker 01

  Uh, just the culture, like people smoking weed and fucking in the street, like.

• 2:33:01Joe Rogan?

  Openly?

• 2:33:02Speaker 01

  Not just openly, but like obnoxiously, like everything is obnoxious.

• 2:33:06Joe Rogan?

  Like weed smoke everywhere?

• 2:33:08Speaker 01

  It's not just that, it's just the way it's done is obnoxious.

• 2:33:11Joe Rogan?

  Hmm. I like, we can finally do it legally, fuck you.

• 2:33:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, let's fucking go, let's be real stupid about it.

• 2:33:17Joe Rogan?

  Do you think that that'll eventually settle down and this is just because it's a new thing that's legal?

• 2:33:21Speaker 01

  Probably.

• 2:33:22Joe Rogan?

  I think so.

• 2:33:23Speaker 01

  It's really not even the people who like, I, I, you know.

• 2:33:28Speaker 01

  It's not like I'm a connoisseur of smoking weed, but I kinda am.

• 2:33:32Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:33:32Speaker 01

  And I like to do it in a certain way, but I'm not judging how anyone else does it, but I feel like my way is best.

• 2:33:39Joe Rogan?

  I hear what you're saying.

• 2:33:40Speaker 01

  Nice and chill.

• 2:33:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:33:41Speaker 01

  Chilling in the crib.

• 2:33:43Joe Rogan?

  You don't wanna annoy other people with it, that's the problem.

• 2:33:45Speaker 01

  Not having to be like old school back in the day, I used to come into class smelling like the most weed that I possibly could. Cause that was what I was trying to exude, I was trying to be cool. Come in smelling like the sour.

• 2:33:58Joe Rogan?

  You have your friends blowing on you?

• 2:33:59Speaker 01

  Oh my god. Bro, you go in and like, woo, who's fucking smelling, that was like some rush.

• 2:34:05Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:34:06Speaker 01

  Being in class and that happened, like, and you're all stoned and shit in the back, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:34:12Joe Rogan?

  It worked out for you?

• 2:34:12Speaker 01

  It did.

• 2:34:13Joe Rogan?

  A lot of people probably thought it wouldn't though, right?

• 2:34:15Speaker 01

  There's no doubt about it. Are you kidding me?

• 2:34:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:34:18Speaker 01

  My, I've been so short my whole life.

• 2:34:20Joe Rogan?

  It'd be funny too, there's people that had a bad opinion of it back then, and they look at you now like, boy, did I call that one wrong.

• 2:34:27Speaker 01

  Just in general, man, like, I did alright. I did alright.

• 2:34:34Speaker 01

  I've been reflecting a lot, under the stars and in nature.

• 2:34:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah?

• 2:34:38Speaker 01

  I'm just happy.

• 2:34:39Joe Rogan?

  When you're overlanding?

• 2:34:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, when I'm not overlanding, now I'm camping.

• 2:34:42Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 2:34:43Speaker 01

  Now I'm camped.

• 2:34:44Joe Rogan?

  Stay.

• 2:34:44Speaker 01

  Now I'm at camp, base camp.

• 2:34:46Joe Rogan?

  Stay on the ground.

• 2:34:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm grounding. Take my shoes off, feel the grass.

• 2:34:52Joe Rogan?

  Dude, I went down a crazy space rabbit hole last night. I was going down this, um, this rabbit hole of black holes. And, uh, you remember, Jamie, I told you about that black hole that they found that's as big as our galaxy? Yeah. Uh, not, not our galaxy, excuse me, our solar system. They found a black hole that is so big, that's as, it's like, it's bigger than from here all the way to Pluto. Well, they found one now that's bigger than our galaxy. They found a black hole that's larger than the, I think it's called Phoenix A. See if we can find the Phoenix A black hole.

• 2:35:28Speaker 01

  If it's larger than the galaxy, there's really no measurement of what this is. To even think about you saying, yo, it's bigger than our galaxy, what the fuck?

• 2:35:37Joe Rogan?

  What the fuck does that mean?

• 2:35:38Speaker 01

  What the fuck does that mean?

• 2:35:39Joe Rogan?

  The way this person in this video was explaining it, it's so insane because the amount of time that it would take for a black hole to suck in that much matter to become that massive, there's not enough time since the birth of the universe. That's what they're, so they're confused as to how it's formed. They're like, well, maybe we're wrong about how these things are formed. It's roughly a hundred times larger than the distance between the sun and Pluto, with a diameter of roughly five hundred and ninety billion kilometers. Unlike many supermassive black holes that inhabit star, that inhibit star formation, Phoenix A is currently in a phase of rapid growth, consuming enough matter to grow about sixty solar masses per year.

• 2:36:22Joe Rogan?

  This activity drives high rates of star formation in its surrounding galaxy. Fuck.

• 2:36:27Speaker 01

  Is there any way to diagnose this black hole from here? Can we see it through any telescope, any high-powered thing?

• 2:36:34Joe Rogan?

  They've detected it, but I don't understand how they detect it.

• 2:36:37Speaker 01

  But any of them, can we see any of them in real time?

• 2:36:39Joe Rogan?

  You can't really see a black hole. What you see is everything around the black hole getting sucked into it.

• 2:36:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, you see some sort of like weird movement, no? Right, right.

• 2:36:47Speaker 00

  I saw this, I thought you were headed towards this. I saw this within the last couple of days.

• 2:36:52Joe Rogan?

  Anton Petrov?

• 2:36:53Speaker 00

  No, no, the Milky Way lives in this thing called a void that is like a black hole, but it's like two billion light-years across.

• 2:37:01Joe Rogan?

  Earth.

• 2:37:02Speaker 00

  And we're in the middle of it.

• 2:37:03Speaker 01

  What?

• 2:37:04Speaker 00

  Like, look at that picture as like a, you know, example of what that would be.

• 2:37:08Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:37:08Speaker 00

  Like, there's nothing else around us.

• 2:37:10Speaker 01

  That's perfect placement.

• 2:37:11Joe Rogan?

  So that circle's supposed to be the Milky Way?

• 2:37:13Speaker 00

  That, yeah, that would be the Milky Way.

• 2:37:15Joe Rogan?

  That's the galaxy.

• 2:37:16Speaker 00

  And then there's a billion light-years to any direction.

• 2:37:20Joe Rogan?

  But that's Earth. That graphic.

• 2:37:22Speaker 00

  Again, it's like not the best, uh, Earth is in the Milky Way, so it's showing you that.

• 2:37:26Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so the Milky Way is just in the center of a void. Is that uncommon?

• 2:37:32Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 2:37:32Joe Rogan?

  That's the thing. It's like, are all these galaxies in the center of a void? But just the idea that there's a supermassive black hole out there that's a hundred times more massive or a hundred times larger than the distance between Earth and Pluto, like, what?

• 2:37:48Speaker 01

  This is, what? This is why we have to be smoking weed in front of a green, talking about this. And, uh, having weird people come on and comment.

• 2:37:58Joe Rogan?

  Do you, um, have you been paying attention to this news about these UFO researchers and scientists that are going missing? Yeah. What do you think of that?

• 2:38:06Speaker 01

  Don't, uh, listen, don't top doctors go missing, don't top physicists go missing, don't fucking Ash, no, all these fucking people who are in...

• 2:38:15Joe Rogan?

  Facts.

• 2:38:16Speaker 01

  You know, power positions, not even, just position of high intelligence, knowledge.

• 2:38:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:38:22Speaker 01

  They go bye-bye. The best heart surgeons on Earth, seven of them were on the same fucking plane that went down, what do you know? The best, whatever, whatever. They just found the cure for cancer, these ten doctors, they're on a PJ to fucking, who the hell knows where, and they go down.

• 2:38:37Speaker 00

  Jesse wrote a good write-up about them all that I think explains the angle we would prefer to hear about, you know, like conspiracies and UFOs and stuff.

• 2:38:46Joe Rogan?

  So he thinks it's a conspiracy?

• 2:38:48Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:38:48Joe Rogan?

  Or he's laying out the possibility of it being a conspiracy?

• 2:38:51Speaker 00

  Correct, and at least from that angle.

• 2:38:52Speaker 01

  It's just crazy that all these top doctors and top physicists and just like these people just disappear.

• 2:38:59Joe Rogan?

  One of them was a general, who's also a-

• 2:39:01Speaker 00

  He's the-

• 2:39:01Speaker 01

  Generals know shit.

• 2:39:02Speaker 00

  He's the key, cause he was in charge of, uh, I think the UFO program.

• 2:39:07Joe Rogan?

  Right, exactly. If there is one. But if you did, didn't he just leave the house with just a gun?

• 2:39:14Speaker 00

  I don't, yeah, it's on the screen what he left with.

• 2:39:19Joe Rogan?

  He took a red backpack, his wallet, and a thirty-eight caliber revolver.

• 2:39:23Speaker 00

  Left behind his phone.

• 2:39:24Joe Rogan?

  He left behind his phone. His wife reported him missing within three hours, despite FBI involvement, Air Force Office of Special Investigation searched dogs, drones, helicopters, horseback teams, FLIR sweeps, and seven hundred canvas households. No confirmed sightings of McCaslin has ever surfaced. Surveillance cameras covered both ends of his street. None captured his direction of travel. After weeks of searching, the only item recovered was a gray Air Force sweatshirt a mile east of his house. Testing could not confirm it was his.

• 2:39:58Speaker 00

  He was the first one to disappear, and then the story is sort of-

• 2:40:02Speaker 01

  No hair came off?

• 2:40:03Speaker 00

  He was the first one to disappear, and then another one disappeared, and they're like, well, they actually might have worked together, and then like every other day, it's like, now another one, and another one, and another one.

• 2:40:12Joe Rogan?

  Also, if you knew something that the whole world didn't know, like if you knew the human race was just a bunch of soul containers for some super advanced alien race that just uses us as a farm.

• 2:40:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, here's why-

• 2:40:25Joe Rogan?

  And you're like, what's the purpose?

• 2:40:26Speaker 00

  His name pops up, it's cause his name was in the junk.

• 2:40:28Speaker 01

  We're all just an empty body with fucking aliens hosting us.

• 2:40:31Joe Rogan?

  Hacked emails from Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta revealed correspondence from Tom DeLonge, uh, naming McCaslin directly. DeLonge? I'm saying it wrong, right?

• 2:40:42Speaker 00

  No, Tom DeLonge.

• 2:40:43Joe Rogan?

  DeLonge. DeLonge, uh, wrote that McCaslin helped assemble his advisory team, was deeply aware of what DeLonge was trying to achieve, had received a four-hour briefing on the project. DeLonge added that McCaslin ran the laboratory at Wright Patterson where the Roswell material was shipped. But that's all speculation.

• 2:41:06Speaker 00

  What's the part?

• 2:41:07Joe Rogan?

  The Roswell material.

• 2:41:08Speaker 01

  They keep talking about Roswell and this and that. There's so much, why do they, why, why is it always like, focus on that shit?

• 2:41:15Joe Rogan?

  Hold on, you can't talk at the same time, we don't have headphones on. Say it again?

• 2:41:17Speaker 00

  He did run, he was in charge of the Air Force lab at Wright Pat. That's why it's linked to the Roswell material. That could be the, the Roswell material could be the part you put in parentheses, but he did run that lab.

• 2:41:28Joe Rogan?

  It's all very interesting, cause that is, the lore was that that's where the wreckage was shipped. But...

• 2:41:36Speaker 00

  And then that, uh, the one we talked about yesterday, Monica Reza, I looked her up, she is known for being on a patent of some super metal alloy. I was looking that up yesterday. That doesn't mean anything specifically, but...

• 2:41:49Joe Rogan?

  This is the lady that vanished.

• 2:41:50Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:41:51Joe Rogan?

  She was the lady that was hiking, her friend turned around, saw her, kept hiking, said something to her, kept hiking, turned around a little while later and she was gone. No one ever found her.

• 2:41:59Speaker 00

  Co-invented an alloy called Mondalloy, which is used in rocket engines currently.

• 2:42:05Joe Rogan?

  Dun, dun, dun.

• 2:42:06Speaker 01

  Come on.

• 2:42:07Joe Rogan?

  And maybe working on some new shit, huh? Maybe?

• 2:42:11Speaker 01

  I mean, those people who got those patents through all those metal, like, the fucking guy who got the patent to the clip that turns the gun into an automatic or the...

• 2:42:20Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:42:21Speaker 01

  That's that shit.

• 2:42:22Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:42:23Speaker 01

  Those little components turn bigger compo- bigger things into like, super situations.

• 2:42:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, this is like a crazy alloy for spaceships.

• 2:42:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, but just, you need that.

• 2:42:33Joe Rogan?

  Of course, but it's kinda weird that that lady is the lady that goes missing. So if you were a competitor country, I could see why you'd wanna take out one of those scientists. You know, definitely. If you were involved in another industry that might be harmed by her work, like if her work would make your work obsolete, you might wanna...

• 2:42:55Speaker 01

  Get rid of her.

• 2:42:55Joe Rogan?

  Get rid of her.

• 2:42:56Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 2:42:57Joe Rogan?

  Look, that's always happened. People have always done that. You can't take it out of the equation. You gotta thoroughly investigate.

• 2:43:03Speaker 01

  This is, it's a, it's a, it's a story as old as time.

• 2:43:06Joe Rogan?

  It is, right?

• 2:43:07Speaker 01

  You get rid of one person, the next one comes in. If they're threatening to you, they go bye-bye.

• 2:43:13Joe Rogan?

  Especially in big business, like rocket engines and alloys and space travel and...

• 2:43:19Speaker 01

  Something as small as fucking numbers betting. They kill you for betting numbers. They're not gonna kill you for that.

• 2:43:27Joe Rogan?

  Truth.

• 2:43:29Speaker 01

  Nothing but truth, man.

• 2:43:31Joe Rogan?

  Well, listen, brother, um, thanks for being here. Tell us, everybody, one more time, your album.

• 2:43:36Speaker 01

  Gives a fuck.

• 2:43:37Joe Rogan?

  Come on, dog. We do.

• 2:43:39Speaker 01

  You know, I'm not here for that. I'm just here to say hello.

• 2:43:41Joe Rogan?

  I'm gonna like to get people to check it out, because...

• 2:43:43Speaker 01

  You think they're gonna give a shit?

• 2:43:44Joe Rogan?

  I think they will. Yeah, they like you.

• 2:43:45Speaker 01

  Yo, fucking Planet Frog coming out real soon, man. We dropping now. Yo, you already know. That hype shit.

• 2:43:54Joe Rogan?

  Hype shit.

• 2:43:55Speaker 01

  You know, I got, I got all kinds of things. I got, I got many projects on the way for the year.

• 2:43:59Joe Rogan?

  Fuck, that's delicious.

• 2:44:01Speaker 01

  Always. That's always going down.

• 2:44:02Joe Rogan?

  Always.

• 2:44:03Speaker 01

  You know that. Thank you again.

• 2:44:05Joe Rogan?

  KG BBQ.

• 2:44:06Speaker 01

  Yo, come on. Made him, made him a star.

• 2:44:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:44:08Speaker 01

  That was a good workout.

• 2:44:09Joe Rogan?

  KG or KB?

• 2:44:11Speaker 01

  KG.

• 2:44:11Joe Rogan?

  KG. Yeah, okay. I wanted to make sure.

• 2:44:13Speaker 01

  Like I said, I'm not, I just wanna come and work out with you and just fucking chill, kick it, talk some fucking fights.

• 2:44:18Joe Rogan?

  Anytime, sir. Anytime.

• 2:44:20Speaker 01

  That's it.

• 2:44:21Joe Rogan?

  It's always fun to hang with you.

• 2:44:22Speaker 01

  You too, bro.

• 2:44:22Joe Rogan?

  Come on, brother.

• 2:44:23Speaker 01

  Like I said, I don't give a fuck about my album. Fuck that shit. Fuck everything else. I'm here for a good time.

• 2:44:30Joe Rogan?

  Well, it was a good time.

• 2:44:31Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 2:44:32Joe Rogan?

  Appreciate you always. All right. All right. Bye, everybody.

• 2:44:50Speaker 03

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