Ep 546 - Maxo Kream (feat. Maxo Kream)

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  Wild Wild West.

• 0:02Matt McCusker?

  Nice. Yeah, we were just talking plane crashes. Too many, man. Way too many.

• 0:07Speaker 00

  That shit's got niggas scared, shit.

• 0:09Matt McCusker?

  Dude, I'm telling you, I flew, I had to fly with my wife and I was just ready. I was like, man, if this is it, this is it. That's crazy, dude, how the helicopter just flew into that fucking plane.

• 0:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's crazy. Like, they didn't see it on like the radio, like, like the radio scan or whatever. That's crazy.

• 0:22Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, man. I, uh, I don't know. It gets people, it gets people's wheels spinning in a really bad way where it's like, why, how did the fuck did that happen?

• 0:29Speaker 00

  And then, that's the crazy part. I'd never listen to what they tell me, like, yo, when, yeah, so grab the oxygen and everything, bro, something happened, I'm a freak. And how's that gonna save us?

• 0:39Matt McCusker?

  I know, dude.

• 0:40Speaker 00

  Until I wear a C-bill. Yeah, a C-bill when the helicopter hit the plane.

• 0:43Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, you're fucked.

• 0:43Speaker 00

  That's too crazy.

• 0:44Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, and then if you like, my, uh, when I fly with my kids, they make me read the brochure to them. They're like, read this, and I have to like, you know, like the, like, why do they have their heads down their laps? I'm like, that's, you know, if you just wanna get a little extra comfortable in case we gotta land really quick. And I'm like, that's where, that's what you do to keep you from like freaking out. Like, that's what happens, you're about to die. And they tell you to like, try to blow yourself. Did you ever see the picture? They're like, put your head in your lap. And it's like, bro, I'm just gonna go out.

• 1:10Speaker 00

  Ain't nobody having that damn flexible. And if you is that flexible, you sus.

• 1:14Matt McCusker?

  True.

• 1:15Speaker 00

  That's like what you doing.

• 1:17Matt McCusker?

  That's true, yeah. If you, that would be crazy to see somebody like, think they're going down and just have their head just like right in their lap and you're like, bro.

• 1:24Speaker 00

  Man, Lord forbid, but something like that happen, first off, I'm not getting out in no single file, I'm pushing my way through.

• 1:32Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying? It sound fucked up, but I'm grabbing my go yard bag.

• 1:36Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 1:37Speaker 00

  I already lost my arm, so basically you gonna lose everything that you check in, right? So that's gone.

• 1:42Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, you got it, yeah.

• 1:42Speaker 00

  I gotta say something. I'm grabbing it and I'm getting the fuck, but.

• 1:46Matt McCusker?

  Then you gotta go down a yellow inflatable slide.

• 1:49Speaker 00

  But that's if you land. But if you have something in the air or something, I'm in an airplane, like, like if something happened, you go down the inflatable side, by the grace of God, you blessed.

• 1:57Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, true.

• 1:58Speaker 00

  Cause just being in the air, anything happen, that's scary shit.

• 2:00Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, dude. The fucking plane gets on fire. Did you see that one video with the plane, like, it was in, I think?

• 2:06Speaker 00

  Houston.

• 2:06Matt McCusker?

  No, there was one way, like, months ago in Brazil.

• 2:09Speaker 00

  Oh damn.

• 2:09Matt McCusker?

  I don't know if it was Brazil, it was another country, and the plane, the engines lost power and it just fell, like, it didn't even crash, it just fell dead out of the sky.

• 2:18Matt McCusker?

  Like insane.

• 2:20Speaker 00

  So how they land?

• 2:21Matt McCusker?

  Dude, they exploded. It literally, it just lost power. Like if, you know, like you think airplane crash, you're like, like that. This just stopped and was like, whoo, and did like a dead spin and just fell. Dude, it was the most fucked up shit I've ever seen. But you know, I flew this weekend. I'm all right. I flew.

• 2:39Speaker 00

  For sure.

• 2:39Matt McCusker?

  Back and forth. And again, this is the best time.

• 2:41Speaker 00

  Y'all gotta tighten up.

• 2:42Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, dude.

• 2:43Speaker 00

  Discounts.

• 2:44Matt McCusker?

  Well, that was the fucked up thing because then it both, both political sides started blaming each other. They're like, you know, uh, Republicans were like doing the DEI stuff. And then the Democrats were like, you fired the head of the FAA, the federal, whatever. But then it's like, dude, so you're telling me if one guy, you guys have an organization where one guy leaves, everything starts to crash? It's like, what was he doing? All the fucking glow sticks himself? Like what the fuck are you talking about, dude?

• 3:08Speaker 00

  They didn't tighten up. I don't know. I feel like we might be under attack.

• 3:11Matt McCusker?

  I know.

• 3:12Speaker 00

  I feel like they're like, bro, this too, bro. It's more safe to ride an airplane than drive your hill cat down fucking Sixth Street. You know what I'm saying?

• 3:21Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, I would, yeah.

• 3:22Speaker 00

  So all this shit happening like that, I don't know, man. Just too much going on right now, you know, just.

• 3:27Matt McCusker?

  I know. Dude, it's, yeah, it's getting weird, man. I, uh, I'm off the porn right. I'm actually, dude, I'm in a fasted state right now. Not, not talking about just off the porn and stuff. I'm off, I haven't eaten in two days.

• 3:37Speaker 00

  Real?

• 3:38Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, I'm just fasting. I'm in a state of grace. No, no, nothing. Just water, a little bit of coffee.

• 3:43Speaker 00

  Only time I could do that is on Adderall.

• 3:45Matt McCusker?

  Oh, you could do that.

• 3:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. Two days, easy. That ain't shit.

• 3:49Matt McCusker?

  You should do an Adderall fast. That'd be sick.

• 3:50Speaker 00

  Hell, yeah. Get a lot of shit done. But Adderall, see, I'm glad that you fasten up porn.

• 3:57Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 3:57Speaker 00

  I watch so much porn when I pop Adderall.

• 3:59Matt McCusker?

  Really?

• 4:00Speaker 00

  I just want to be alone for two hours.

• 4:02Matt McCusker?

  Oh, you're stim fapping. It's called stim fapping.

• 4:04Speaker 00

  Stim fapping, what's that put me on game?

• 4:05Matt McCusker?

  Stim fapping is when you use stimulants and just go into a porn hole and just allow yourself to fap. It's like chemsex. Now, I mean, I'm not, it's a chemsex, gay guy, you know, I'm obviously not drawing the comparison, but, uh, chemsex is big in the gay community where you just get like whacked on meth and it's just dudes on meth.

• 4:23Speaker 00

  Nah, I ain't doing it.

• 4:24Matt McCusker?

  Just for like days straight. I'm not saying you're doing that, but stim fapping is the hetero version of that.

• 4:28Speaker 00

  I don't stim nothing. I just, all this shit stim from the Adderall and me just wanting to hours to myself.

• 4:36Matt McCusker?

  I feel like Adderall shrivels your dick. I don't even know how.

• 4:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, then it get complicated because then you on all kind of Rhino pills. Yeah, man, I might, hey, let me know what you going through like, I need a fast.

• 4:47Matt McCusker?

  The Adderall Rhino, dude, you're definitely stim fat, by the way, if you're telling me you're entering Rhino pills in there, that's stim fat.

• 4:52Speaker 00

  No, no, that's not stim fast. It's called being thirty plus.

• 4:57Matt McCusker?

  Well, here, dude, if you go off the porn, I was literally just thinking about this today. I've been off it. Thank God. I mean, it's been since like the new year, which is pretty, that's pretty good for me because I'm a bit of an avid consumer myself. But dude, when you go off of it, your brain really does rewire to the point where you're like, you can just like smell a lady's perfume and you're like, holy shit. Like when you were a kid, you get back to that because I really think like porn has, I feel like it's made all of us more gay. Like I'm not saying everyone's gay, but I'm saying like, here's the thing, if you walk by and you see a lady's shoulders and you get kind of chubbed up, you're definitely less gay than a guy who doesn't get chubbed up from seeing a lady's shoulders. You know what I'm saying?

• 5:40Matt McCusker?

  So if you're watching porn, you're just slowly, you're still hetero, but you're drifting.

• 5:45Speaker 00

  I get what you're saying. All this damn flabbing ain't got nothing to do with me, Kev. I don't know. I don't like this.

• 5:49Matt McCusker?

  You're not stim fat. You're not stim fat.

• 5:51Speaker 00

  But nah, I know what you mean. Like, oh, now she got to be bent over showing it.

• 5:55Matt McCusker?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 5:56Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying? For you to get hard with, whether you could just see something.

• 5:59Matt McCusker?

  It's a vicious cycle, dude, like the OnlyFans, because then the women now are just contorting themselves into like artificial.

• 6:05Speaker 00

  It's the women, it's these new camera filters. And it's fucking, when Twitter turned to X, it was over with. Goddamn Twitter. And like, that's why I'm at my Twitter space. I'd be like, okay, I'm trying to do something positive. Let me go look at some sneaker shit, look at some clothes.

• 6:20Speaker 00

  Up is a yellow bone with green eyes fingering herself.

• 6:22Matt McCusker?

  Yep, I know.

• 6:22Speaker 00

  Up is the one giving head. Oh, she's actually kind of good.

• 6:25Matt McCusker?

  You gotta say you're not interested.

• 6:27Speaker 00

  She in Houston.

• 6:29Matt McCusker?

  Not interested. You gotta go, not interested. No, thank you, Elon. And just, I'm telling you dude, it makes a, it makes a huge difference for me, man, just getting off that shit altogether.

• 6:38Speaker 00

  Nah, for sure.

• 6:39Matt McCusker?

  Cause then it's like dude, women now are, look like fucking artificial beings, like they're chasing an ideal that's just like completely artificial and they're shredding themselves into a.

• 6:47Speaker 00

  Man, like some of the most beautiful women, they go get all these surgeries and I don't wanna offend nobody saying nothing. Is this live, live?

• 6:55Matt McCusker?

  No, no, no, we can edit whatever.

• 6:56Speaker 00

  Cut it. But they go then, they do all that work to start looking like a.

• 7:00Speaker 02

  Wow, wow, Wes.

• 7:01Matt McCusker?

  It's a good point. They're getting more gay. The women are getting more gay. The guys are getting more gay. True.

• 7:07Speaker 00

  Every woman got an ounce of gay in them, you know what I'm saying? Let me tell me that, or like, all of them a little bi, you know what I'm saying?

• 7:13Matt McCusker?

  For sure.

• 7:14Speaker 00

  With that, it's like they doing it to oppress they self, cause all that, I still like natural bodies. Every female don't gotta have the fattest ass.

• 7:20Matt McCusker?

  For sure.

• 7:20Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying? I still like this shit like freckles, the normal shit, you know what I'm saying? I like normal hips and shit, but then they go get them hard ass titties. Ladies, you know how hard it is to have sex with them hard ass shit? I'm a nigga, I'm a layer. So I like to lay on you and shit like that, then I'm already kinda big. So I'm pinning them down rocks until my titties and then your titties, I'm like, god damn.

• 7:39Matt McCusker?

  They're born into you. They're just fucking digging into your body.

• 7:42Speaker 00

  But they look good though, you know, some ladies like, you know, man, whatever build your self-esteem, you wanna do that shit? I'm all for it, you know what I'm saying?

• 7:49Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, but they're not building their self-esteem. They have fucking, they're getting like, they're, they're shooting, I think botox is like snake venom.

• 7:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:56Matt McCusker?

  It relaxes your like nervous system, your muscles in your face.

• 7:59Speaker 00

  I was just saying that so I don't get cancelled.

• 8:00Matt McCusker?

  No, dude, they're not, they need to hear it. They need to hear it, dude. I mean, I'm not like trying to be like a big, hard ass, like fucking ladies, listen up, but it's like, dude, if you think about it, like we've, I mean dude, we've got, there was, if you read, if you ever listened to like The Brave New World or read it, Aldous Huxley, he's like a book about the future. He had this big thing where it was like, we've traded like real interpersonal communications for, he called it the pneumatic ideal, which is like women specifically are like, the women of the future, he predicted would just be like pumped full of air to give her a pleasing appearance, but then men would fall in love with this thing that's essentially hollow and worthless.

• 8:37Matt McCusker?

  It's kinda fucked up, but if you think about it, dude, it's like, so you have women, if you think about women and OnlyFans, it's like, all right, we can do OnlyFans, we can make millions of dollars, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like dude, and I'm not saying this to be a dickhead, this is, I think scientific fact, they'd be happier to have a kid.

• 8:54Speaker 00

  Right.

• 8:54Matt McCusker?

  It's like you could just put up like neurological brain scans and say, all right, what do you, what is there more, you know, like serotonin and like dopamine, like you can measure the chemicals. What you're flowing more when you're holding your child or if you're stiff, like putting like marbles up your asshole on a camera? Hands down, dude, it's like not even close. It's not even close. So it's like, yeah, dude. Then, you know, it's like, but then if you can make millions of dollars, everyone's fapping to it. It's like.

• 9:18Speaker 00

  For sure.

• 9:19Matt McCusker?

  You know? I'm done, dude. I'm, I'm an avid fapper dude, and I've been trying, I've been off, thank God, because once you have kids, you have to stop.

• 9:26Speaker 00

  Man, my daughter, my daughter made me stop. Plus, my baby mama, it was just to the point where like it was fucking up our relationship. Porn, watching that shit, you know what I'm saying?

• 9:37Matt McCusker?

  Did you ever get caught?

• 9:39Speaker 00

  I just get caught jacking off and try to play sleep.

• 9:43Speaker 00

  Like, what the hell you doing? Or like, she'll walk out, try to play sleep, but then I got my third leg standing up so the cover just.

• 9:51Matt McCusker?

  It sucks when they catch you, dude.

• 9:52Speaker 00

  The craziest part was when my mama first called me. I tried to play sleep and she snatched the cover back. And then like, she go to Bath and Body Works and she got a, um, it was called Cherry Blossom. So the whole room smelled like cherry blossom. I'm like, fuck.

• 10:06Matt McCusker?

  I know the exact set.

• 10:08Speaker 00

  But like, once you got to a certain age, because I got a cousin named Big Steve, and since I got caught jacking off, you know, you with the boys, they gonna always tease you. Then once everybody turned 30, they all admitted, nigga, we all do it. We men, we all do it. We just calling you because you got caught, fool. And shit like that, so.

• 10:23Matt McCusker?

  Who'd he get caught by?

• 10:24Speaker 00

  I got caught by my mama. I got caught by my brother before.

• 10:28Matt McCusker?

  Damn.

• 10:28Speaker 00

  I got caught by one of my older sisters, not my newer. And I got caught, um.

• 10:33Matt McCusker?

  It sucks, dude.

• 10:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, man, you gotta be better.

• 10:36Matt McCusker?

  I've gotten caught so many times, dude. It's, it's embarrassing. It sucks. And there's no way, I just got caught this weekend. There's no way. I snuck off to the shower in the morning. I thought it was safe. I was like, I'm not gonna bother you. And then she was like, what are you doing in there? And I was like. Same thing, standing in the shower.

• 10:52Speaker 00

  They be knowing too, they be knowing then that's what fucked up, I'm like, shut the fuck up.

• 10:56Matt McCusker?

  I was trying to, that's my thing, I'm trying to be nice because I'm not trying to bother you, I'm like alright, I, I'm like, let's just get out of here, we're gonna fly today, I'm gonna rub one out real quick, we'll, we'll get on the plane. Just, what are you doing? And I was like, standing in the shower with a boner, like, no, I just woke up, it's natural, and she was like, I saw what you were doing, and I was like, no you didn't, and then like, you know, then I'm caught lying, I'm like, god damn it, and I'm like, yes, I, I was.

• 11:16Speaker 00

  Why do they try to make us feel so fucking bad? I feel like the worst person on earth.

• 11:20Matt McCusker?

  But that's the thing too, I feel like a lot of the shame is like just self possessed, because she's like, yeah, if you want to do it, go ahead, I don't mind, she's like, I, and I was just like, oh shit. So, kind of spun it into some, you know, freaky morning stuff, but it was like.

• 11:32Speaker 00

  Sometimes they do.

• 11:33Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, I spun it.

• 11:34Speaker 00

  It depends on they, you know what I'm saying, how they coming with.

• 11:36Matt McCusker?

  We had our own little like, what was it called, the Young King Party?

• 11:39Speaker 00

  What's that?

• 11:41Matt McCusker?

  Oh, sorry. It was, it was like the latest Diddy thing, where he wasn't having freak-offs, they were Young King Party, I'm, I'm sorry, I just.

• 11:49Matt McCusker?

  Young King Nights or something, it was.

• 11:50Speaker 00

  I ain't gonna lie, I used to go to Diddy's son parties.

• 11:53Matt McCusker?

  Did you really?

• 11:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, I never seen that shit, but I'd never go upstairs, I know like, I mean, the parties ain't my house, I'm here, I'm thugging, but. I went to a Halloween party one time, and I didn't know there was Diddy inside the it costume. He walking around and shit, but I'd never seen that kind of like, ah, come in me and my niggas. This is back before I was on liquor, now I drink liquor, party, I was on lean, so, so I'm in there like.

• 12:17Speaker 00

  Weak ass, Robert, you know, nothing, come on y'all, let's go. Shit like that, you know what I'm saying, I ain't never seen that shit.

• 12:24Matt McCusker?

  Well, yeah, I heard, uh, this was like, uh, yeah, who the fuck knows anything about it, but this, I watched, you ever watch Soft White Underbelly?

• 12:31Speaker 00

  I love it.

• 12:31Matt McCusker?

  I, I love that fucking show, dude. He had, there was a lady who said she was there, and it was much more like organized, because it was like, she was outside, according to her. She was outside, there was like an outside of the party, then there's like the inside, and it's like back and forth, and there's like security. And she says she was let into the inside, and that's why a lot of people were there, but they were like, I didn't really see anything, because there's like a, kind of like a party within the party that like, is kind of selective, and they have people, someone reached out to her and was like, we want you to come in. And then she came in, and she was like, I just saw some pretty wild shit, and was like, just took off. But it's a shame that happened because now everyone's on.

• 13:05Speaker 00

  They ain't gonna select me for no shit like that.

• 13:09Matt McCusker?

  Well, everyone's on high guard now because it's like, it just sucks. It's like everyone, it was like the Epstein thing. When Epstein got in trouble, everyone was like, you motherfuckers are all child molesters. And it's like, bro, I, I promise you, I didn't do that. So, yeah, it's tough. But the Young King night is, I mean, from a branding perspective, from just a brand, it's such a funny thing to call, you know, whatever the fuck he was.

• 13:29Speaker 00

  Niggas can't even have party nights no more.

• 13:32Matt McCusker?

  It's gotta be board games now, dude.

• 13:33Speaker 00

  I just go to the club, that's what I call it, the booty club.

• 13:36Matt McCusker?

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• 14:32Matt McCusker?

  Yeah. So I, I was actually curious about that. What's the etiquette? So say like you're in the club, there, there's like girls around and stuff. Do people, like, do you ever like fart in the club or do you try to like keep that to a minimum?

• 14:42Speaker 00

  I mean shit, if I do, I do a real subtle and I make it a poop and I move a lot of people so I can blame somebody else. You know what I'm saying? But it depends like. If Lord, I can see right there, I'm like, yeah bitch, that's why I farted. You know, I said something, cause they my boys. But like, I don't want to strip, but I'm like, hey, that's you, um. Get out there, get up there.

• 15:03Matt McCusker?

  How often does that happen, does somebody just like crush a club with a hard fart?

• 15:06Speaker 00

  I don't, I don't know. I don't know, what made you ask me that? What thing about?

• 15:10Matt McCusker?

  You're talking about the club and I was curious about.

• 15:12Speaker 00

  Farting, that's crazy, but, I don't know.

• 15:14Matt McCusker?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 15:15Speaker 00

  I don't know what everybody else booty doing, but I know that I might poo the couple of times throughout the night. You know what I'm saying?

• 15:20Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, I just, I've never heard a rapper, you're always like something about the club, I never heard anyone mention farting.

• 15:25Speaker 00

  Farting in the club.

• 15:25Matt McCusker?

  And I know it happens.

• 15:27Speaker 00

  Man, the most smell you gonna smell in a strip club is the female with, female with bad, um, pH.

• 15:32Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, true, that, that is a different, that's probably a battle.

• 15:35Speaker 00

  And then it's so fucked up, I could tell, like, certain pH, you're like, okay, that smell like salmon, I don't know where she was. Then you smell another one, like, okay, no, she's in a relationship, whoever she fucking with keeps nothing in her and throwing off her pH. It's different smells to the pH, or you might be like, she coming off her period.

• 15:52Matt McCusker?

  Yo, man, yeah, that makes, that's crazy, you're getting this close up on them, the, uh, yeah, there is, there's the fit.

• 16:01Speaker 00

  Bro, come on, you know, sometimes they throwing that ass in your face, I might be shooting a video.

• 16:04Matt McCusker?

  It's true, no, it's true, that's actually fucking awesome by the way.

• 16:07Speaker 00

  Man, I know a nigga that was in a strip club, he got this close, he got pink eye.

• 16:10Matt McCusker?

  What?

• 16:11Speaker 00

  Pink eye the next day.

• 16:13Matt McCusker?

  There's a strip club in Philly, if you're ever there, I actually don't even recommend you go there, but.

• 16:17Speaker 00

  Is it on the north, uh, northwest side?

• 16:19Matt McCusker?

  No, this isn't like South Philly, it's called Show and Tell.

• 16:21Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 16:22Matt McCusker?

  But they would have, what was the one you were talking about?

• 16:24Speaker 00

  Hey, what's the name of that strip club? Huh? Set it off.

• 16:28Matt McCusker?

  No, I don't know about Set it Off, I've never been, but Show and Tell was BY, you bring your own beer and you would go, you, you can go there, you know, when you're like 18, whatever.

• 16:37Speaker 00

  Right.

• 16:37Matt McCusker?

  And, uh, they used to, when I was younger, they had live dildo shows, where they would have women on stage. And dude, these were like, these were clearly like addicted to heroin, these were like junkies. On stage, like fucking Band-Aids on their butt, like it was bad. And they would just fucking like dildo each other, and then they would like, reach it into the crowd and the dudes would be like, whoa, like dipping away, like get that the fuck away from me.

• 16:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, y'all doing, see out here, we just got, it'd be like, bad bitch. White, black, Puerto Rican, like all like, you know what I'm saying, the bad ones, someone got their body done with Texas. It's a lot of thick women, we having a lot of thick shit out there.

• 17:10Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 17:10Speaker 00

  So like, that's what our strip club be on the east coast. Y'all strippers be ugly, y'all, um bartenders be the shit.

• 17:17Matt McCusker?

  It's true.

• 17:18Speaker 00

  Like y'all.

• 17:18Matt McCusker?

  Bartenders are so much better.

• 17:19Speaker 00

  Like gun, like gun wounds, stab wounds, all that kinda shit. And then they did, they gonna get money, missing tooth. Meanwhile, the bartender got thirty tricks, she probably making thirty K a night, like Bernice Burgos said, you know what I'm saying, cause they, it's money in New York, it's money in Philly.

• 17:34Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 17:34Speaker 00

  Like, when them niggas trick, they trick hard, so the bartenders living in luxury and the strippers really broke, but in Houston, it's opposite.

• 17:42Matt McCusker?

  Really?

• 17:43Speaker 00

  Hell, yeah.

• 17:43Matt McCusker?

  It's as it should be though, the bartender should be kinda like busted and the strippers should be.

• 17:46Speaker 00

  I mean, they make it, but our bartender's not better than the strippers.

• 17:51Matt McCusker?

  That's a weird thing I never thought about, cause the bartender's always like.

• 17:54Speaker 00

  Why they do that?

• 17:55Matt McCusker?

  I don't know, man, I don't know. Cause, but I, I think what they usually do is I, I, what I've heard is they can kind of entice a woman into the bartending position, like, no, you're just a bartender, then slowly try to get her up on stage.

• 18:07Speaker 00

  Nah, it's like, if you know, like, if you go to Starlets, if you go to like Atlantis, like in New York, or like in Philly, I forgot the one strip club in Philly, like, the bartenders is where it's at.

• 18:17Matt McCusker?

  I know, I've seen, I've, I've, trust me, I've definitely seen this.

• 18:20Speaker 00

  Like, they're like, like, that's like the prime thing, I'm like, that's just weird, cause they not the ones shaking ass. They're not like, they do a little something, something, but they just like, you know, head on the pedestal, they be bad too though. They be some bad, I ain't gonna lie, east coast got some badass bartenders.

• 18:34Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, I might, you know, I, I've been kind of like hot for a, like a charitable cause, I might go back to Philly and try to get like the, thicken the strippers up. That could be my charity.

• 18:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, for sure.

• 18:44Matt McCusker?

  Feed them properly, raise awareness, cause there's dude, there's some like really.

• 18:47Speaker 00

  Come ready to catch.

• 18:48Matt McCusker?

  True.

• 18:49Speaker 00

  Get them right.

• 18:50Matt McCusker?

  There's some really scraggly, like dude, there was, it's pretty, pretty, I used to deliver beer and I would go deliver beer to the strip clubs and like, I would go in there at like twelve, you know, like noon, just dropping cases of beer off and you would see the dudes in there at, did you ever go like in the afternoon time? Which I have done myself.

• 19:05Speaker 00

  Man, that's where I'm at, I ain't that horny, I ain't.

• 19:08Matt McCusker?

  Dude, it's nice, you can sit there and talk, you can like talk to them.

• 19:11Speaker 00

  But nah, but that's more, but like, you know, I'm black, you white, even though you black, you still white, so like, at the same time, it's like, y'all wanna go, cause look, this how, alright, look, this how the black man cheat on their wife. Or like cheat, you know what I'm saying, now I say you don't do it, he's a very good man, my boy don't do that, but I'm gonna bust it down how we do it, well, how people do it.

• 19:30Matt McCusker?

  Black man.

• 19:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, baby, I'm be out the boys. I got studio all night. Woo woo woo. It's gonna be some real nighttime shit. So it's some nighttime, very sneaky club woo woo. The white man, white collar man, they work and go like, just whenever like them paralegal niggas are like lawyers and niggas with money like the white collar crime or like just the like that type. So lunches at noon, right?

• 19:57Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 19:57Speaker 00

  They go fuck the men's club up. They been there with their suits, all that shit. The guys drinking beer and they're tipping big ass money, fucking up their mortgage salaries, but they gonna get it back on these strippers during the day. So that's what the white man do. He like go to strip club doing, cause like, you know, I know a lot of strippers. Like they be telling me that they make more money during the day shift than the night shift. Or they might work at like St. James, which is like kinda cabaret where like, why do white men wanna talk at the strip club? Y'all always wanna grab a stripper and talk to them.

• 20:27Matt McCusker?

  Dude, I love.

• 20:28Speaker 00

  So they'll grab one, cause then look, they be like, conversation ruled the nation. So if the girl got a good conversation, she could break him for more money. Niggas wanna go stand on the couch and hit it in the head with money. Throw it up, shoot a music video with it. Like, you know what I'm saying? There's different etiquettes.

• 20:42Matt McCusker?

  True, there is.

• 20:43Speaker 00

  So that's why you like going to the strip club.

• 20:45Matt McCusker?

  I love the daytime. They get too active at nighttime. During the day, you can talk to them at nighttime. It's like the flip switches and they're just too like.

• 20:52Speaker 00

  For sure.

• 20:53Matt McCusker?

  You can really talk to them. And it's also like, I, I used to love to like just ask them like, what's like the craziest shit? Like, what's like the weirdest request you've ever had, just out of personal curiosity? And dude, I've, it's pretty jarring. Have you ever gotten into that with them?

• 21:06Speaker 00

  Hell, yeah. Like, I know one girl, it ain't that bad, but like, and then you be giving her like four thousand a video just to sneeze.

• 21:13Matt McCusker?

  What?

• 21:13Speaker 00

  Like, how you?

• 21:15Matt McCusker?

  Really?

• 21:15Speaker 00

  Sneeze, like to sneeze in different, like, one time he said, walk in the room, turn around and sneeze. Gave her like thirty five hundred.

• 21:25Matt McCusker?

  What?

• 21:26Speaker 00

  For a video. She wasn't even naked or nothing. Everybody, I don't know, people be having different fetishes and shit like.

• 21:31Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, I talked to one lady one time who said that she got, I think like two grand or a thousand bucks for a guy would, um, or she, she would have her and her friends like pee in like a bar glass. And he would, they'd have to watch, he would drink their pee at the bar and they give him like two grand.

• 21:49Speaker 00

  That is, yeah, that's crazy.

• 21:51Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, pretty tight.

• 21:54Matt McCusker?

  I mean, it's cool to be that far. It's crazy.

• 21:56Speaker 00

  Would you do that?

• 21:57Matt McCusker?

  No, dude, hell no. Just for health reasons, I wouldn't drink.

• 22:00Speaker 00

  Drinking piss is crazy.

• 22:01Matt McCusker?

  Stripper pee would get you fucked up, though. You drank stripper pee, you would probably get kinda fucked up.

• 22:05Speaker 00

  But you know what's crazy? A lot of girls like to be peed on.

• 22:08Matt McCusker?

  Really?

• 22:08Speaker 00

  Hell, yeah.

• 22:09Matt McCusker?

  I didn't know that.

• 22:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, I just learnt it.

• 22:12Matt McCusker?

  They like it.

• 22:13Speaker 00

  They like that shit.

• 22:14Matt McCusker?

  Shower or where do you go?

• 22:15Speaker 00

  They like this new, like, like this new little wave of women, like 25 and shit like that. They like that. And they like to eat ass.

• 22:22Matt McCusker?

  Damn, Free R. Kelly.

• 22:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't, yeah.

• 22:25Matt McCusker?

  Way ahead of his time. A man ahead of his time, a sexual pioneer.

• 22:29Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying? And they like to eat ass. Like, that shit is crazy, like.

• 22:32Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, I've heard they don't eat ass.

• 22:33Speaker 00

  I'm like, what the fuck?

• 22:35Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 22:35Speaker 00

  Hell, no. I don't know how to feel, dude. Think about it. How do I position myself?

• 22:39Matt McCusker?

  I, I do.

• 22:40Speaker 00

  And feel like a man.

• 22:41Matt McCusker?

  There's no good way to do it.

• 22:42Speaker 00

  After getting your ass ate.

• 22:43Matt McCusker?

  Squat, you could squat over her.

• 22:44Speaker 00

  Man, come on, man, no.

• 22:48Speaker 00

  Now I feel like I'm getting hit, like.

• 22:49Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's what I'm saying.

• 22:51Speaker 00

  And then I'm a man, so I hang. I have a limb. You eating my ass, now I feel like you eating my pussy or something. I feel like a bitch, like.

• 22:58Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, this is what's happening. The girls, the girls are trying to capture men by reflecting what they're seeing in pornography and that everyone's getting increasingly more, which is one of those things where people aren't even gonna care about gay stuff in 40 years, anyway.

• 23:10Speaker 00

  I mean, I don't got no.

• 23:11Matt McCusker?

  You could be dying on a hill, that doesn't matter.

• 23:13Speaker 00

  Problem with no gay people, nothing. And plus, there's nothing gay that you could do with, with a woman.

• 23:17Matt McCusker?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 23:17Speaker 00

  Or it'd be some shit crazy, like, one time I was having sex with my baby mother, she licked my nipple and I'm like, oh, what the fuck was that?

• 23:24Matt McCusker?

  That's undeniable. That shit.

• 23:25Speaker 00

  I'm like, what is it? Do I like this?

• 23:27Matt McCusker?

  Definitely, everyone does. You can't argue with that. It's unbelievable. That's like, that's my go-to, personally.

• 23:32Speaker 00

  Word.

• 23:33Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, if I'm on top, I'll, I'll be like, come on.

• 23:37Matt McCusker?

  I need you, I need you.

• 23:40Speaker 00

  Oh, knocking over shit.

• 23:43Matt McCusker?

  You don't need rhinos, dude. You just need her to latch on there. Dude, you're fucking.

• 23:47Speaker 00

  It is be the Adderall. Then I look, this is the thing, because Adderall gonna have you all gummy worm. You feel me? You gonna be a hella gummy worm. But after that hoe kick back out and that rhino still in you, you gonna be like.

• 23:58Matt McCusker?

  True.

• 23:58Speaker 00

  Knocking over shit, like, you know what I'm saying?

• 24:01Matt McCusker?

  So here's the thing, though, with the rhinos, don't you worry, like, you know, you're gonna start, it becomes like something you need every time?

• 24:07Speaker 00

  Hell, no. Because see, me, now that I'm drug free, you know what I'm saying? I don't do nothing no more.

• 24:11Matt McCusker?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 24:11Speaker 00

  I'm prescribed Adderall, though. Like, I know how to take it in doses. Like, you don't go buy the biggest one.

• 24:16Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 24:17Speaker 00

  And just, hell, no. Like, that shit gonna hurt.

• 24:20Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 24:21Speaker 00

  Now, you gonna be on hard so bad, you hurt. You take it, you open the cap, you put a little bit.

• 24:26Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 24:27Speaker 00

  Know what I'm saying? Hit on the gums, hit in your tongue or something, hit like with like a little water or something, just to get you a little.

• 24:33Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 24:33Speaker 00

  Not all the way like that. You don't need that much help. Like, you might, it's like lifting weights. You got it, but you might need that little.

• 24:40Matt McCusker?

  Little boost.

• 24:41Speaker 00

  But you don't need somebody to lift the whole thing for you.

• 24:43Matt McCusker?

  You drink coffee or just like you like to, you're talking, you're talking about the little time-release balls or you like the powder?

• 24:48Speaker 00

  So, um, Rhino got like a little, it look like a five hour.

• 24:51Matt McCusker?

  Oh, you're saying with the Rhino, you take a little powder. Oh, I thought you're saying you're cracking Adderall capsules and.

• 24:57Speaker 00

  I mean, I do that, too.

• 24:58Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 24:59Speaker 00

  That's how I take it, because we're really five bands.

• 25:01Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 25:01Speaker 00

  Because five bands more cleaner and it's kind of be like stronger and it's time released. So, like, put a little bit right there, you hear like that.

• 25:09Matt McCusker?

  Damn.

• 25:10Speaker 00

  Somebody told me, Max, so you do Adderall, just do Coke, man. They were like, bro, Coke is like Adderall's big cousin. I'm like, bro, hell, no.

• 25:19Matt McCusker?

  It's kind of a brilliant way to put it, but yeah, that's.

• 25:21Speaker 00

  Because if you snort a line, you'll smoke it down.

• 25:23Matt McCusker?

  True. And it's also the fentanyl, dude.

• 25:26Speaker 00

  Then, that's another reason, see, back when I was doing pills and shit like that, as like, like the drug rap era, like that I came up being and shit like that. Wasn't no fentanyl and Xanax.

• 25:37Matt McCusker?

  Mm-hmm.

• 25:37Speaker 00

  And shit like that, you know what I'm saying? And like, don't get me wrong, I thought Xanax was the dumbest drug. I'm like, why the fuck did I do that shit back in the day? So stupid. Then I used to pop Perks. Perks wasn't that bad. A Perk 10 is not that bad.

• 25:50Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 25:50Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying? But when they on Roxy's, Oxy's and that shit got the pin in it, it's the worst shit you ever seen. It's like, why do you want to be a zombie slumped over? That's how you get robbed, beat up, taken advantage of, or like, you gonna wake up in jail.

• 26:02Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, well, the problem, the perks lead to the Roxy's, Oxy's and all that stuff. That's a problem. I knew dudes that would take like thirty in a weekend. It's like, bro.

• 26:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was never that. But see, I took them like in a weekend, probably ten. But I never got hooked. Like, I don't got like a addicted personality like that. Like, I used to sip lean like a motherfucker. All that. I do not got a sibling. Like, I've been, okay, I sip like two months ago, but it was a cup. You know what I'm saying? Like, all right, I'm from Houston. So that's our culture. Let's say on my brother's death day, we gonna toast the cup. Oh, it's Christmas. We got all the kids to the shit. All the men outside, we toasting the cup like that. Know what I'm saying? But I don't have to go buy a pint every day, sip and shit like that. Like, my dad never had addicted personality. And my shit not addicted like that. Like, I can stop cold turkey when I want.

• 26:50Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, I'm the same way. I've tried, I've tried Percocets, all that stuff. I didn't really care for them. I was always like, it's a waste of money. I'm not wasting money on them. But the, uh, I got one time my sister had bronchitis, I think. So they gave her the Promethazine, like a bottle of it. And me and my brother, it was like the day before Thanksgiving, I forget. I think it was the day before Easter. So like, we were all home at my parents' house. We went to a bar, we got drunk the night before, and then we come back and we're in the bathroom and I open the little drug, like the drug cabinet. I show him my brother's hammer. And I wasn't that drunk, but I was like, he was shitfaced. And I grabbed the bottle of Promethazine. I just untwisted it, but I put my tongue over the cap and I pretended like I was chugging like a bunch of it. And he's like, give me that shit, I'll do it right now. He chugged like a good amount of it.

• 27:32Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 27:32Matt McCusker?

  And he woke up the next day with a hangover and also just like fucked up from that shit. Literally all day. We were in church. He was just sitting there like this, like all fucked up. Like, what did he drink last night?

• 27:43Speaker 00

  Cause that Promethazine, it's gonna hit you harder than lean. Cause like the codeine and shit, it help you lean. The Promethazine put you straight down.

• 27:49Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 27:49Speaker 00

  Then I only that, I remember when I, so my transition to drinking liquor, I was still on lean. So I sip lean during the day, go out, I'm in LA, we partying hard, drinking liquor. Then I remember it was a month where everything I ate, I throw up. I thought I had a stomach bug. But no, I was sipping lean and liquor the same day.

• 28:07Matt McCusker?

  Oh, dude. Yeah, it fucks you up.

• 28:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, thank God I don't do that no more.

• 28:10Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, cause especially, did you like pass out? Did you get like real tired or were you like, cause I know anyone I knew who was on a lot of pills, you go out and have one drink with them, they were like.

• 28:19Speaker 00

  The thing is, pills, like, by that time, I was like. I wasn't really taking doing pills like that. It was more just lean.

• 28:25Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 28:25Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying? Lean and liquor, but shit, I was sipping so hard, like my tolerance was high to the motherfucker.

• 28:32Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 28:32Speaker 00

  I was really like, I used to sip like six lines, like four lines a day. I was down to a deuce a day. So you know what I'm saying? It wasn't that damn bad. But now, if like I sip one line, I'll be asleep the whole day.

• 28:43Matt McCusker?

  And that's an ounce, right?

• 28:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, a line is an ounce, so.

• 28:46Matt McCusker?

  Six is a lot.

• 28:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:47Matt McCusker?

  My friend drank four and crashed his car into a hill. I tried, we tried to sell, we tried to sell from, it was probably all like watered down, but we like got tried to sell it in the suburbs. And I remember being like, alright dude, hide this at your house. I'll be back for it. He just drank the whole thing, crashed into a hill. I was like.

• 29:00Speaker 00

  He tripping.

• 29:01Matt McCusker?

  He sucks, dude.

• 29:02Speaker 00

  But now I dropped him a foe, but like, that's what they did. They take a twenty ounce, drop a foe.

• 29:06Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 29:06Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying? And then you know when your drink muddy, cause you dropping the lean and it changed the temperature, like the drink not even cold no more. Cause you put so much mud in there, you know what I'm saying?

• 29:16Matt McCusker?

  So mud is the lean?

• 29:17Speaker 00

  Mud is lean. So let me give you, let me run down all the slang for you.

• 29:20Matt McCusker?

  Cause I'm pretty sure we bought like K-Rose syrup. I think we got ripped off. I think, that's what they said you gotta watch for people.

• 29:25Speaker 00

  So they gonna call it mud, they gonna call it oil, they gonna call it drink.

• 29:29Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 29:30Speaker 00

  Shit, what else they call it? Texas tea?

• 29:33Matt McCusker?

  Okay.

• 29:34Speaker 00

  Punch, like, and they call you like, hey, y'all got some punch over there? I got some Texas tea, something like that, like that's what they call it.

• 29:41Matt McCusker?

  But isn't there, there's like yellow, red, and purple?

• 29:43Speaker 00

  So let me tell you. So red that I know was for hot take red. So I think they got bought out by Acorn and they stopped producing it like that. That was the red. I love red. Red came right after activist. So it was activist, um, like when I started sipping, it was activist. I know like the older niggas from like S U C, Houston, all the Slim Thel, Power, all them. They was sipping bar back in the day. Bar and activist is the best tasting lean of all time, you know what I'm saying?

• 30:09Matt McCusker?

  It does taste pretty good.

• 30:09Speaker 00

  Hell yeah. Then after hot take, it was Walk Hard. R I P to Walk Hard. People still going crazy over Walk. All the young niggas, but they never really had act. They really never sip that shit, so they don't really know how that shit coming, but. That's how you do it, but the strongest lean is, um, it's called testinex. That's the yellow.

• 30:29Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 30:29Speaker 00

  That's the snot, you know what I'm saying? Ooh, that shit so like, one line of that is like a three of purple.

• 30:36Matt McCusker?

  Really?

• 30:37Speaker 00

  Hell, yeah. Then you got green lean. So, green lean don't got codeine in it, it's just promethazine. And then, um, they do got one that got codeine, it's called Carico. But green lean is what, is what like the hood niggas drink, that's like the Reggie.

• 30:51Matt McCusker?

  Really?

• 30:51Speaker 00

  Like, yeah.

• 30:52Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, yeah, so it's just the bullshit.

• 30:53Speaker 00

  Hell, yeah, but it knock you down, it puts you out.

• 30:56Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, okay.

• 30:57Speaker 00

  But you gotta be careful with that, cause niggas putting fit in all in that, they putting fit in all in everything.

• 31:01Matt McCusker?

  I know.

• 31:01Speaker 00

  I could have sworn somebody, I, I bought some weed when somebody got so high, I'm like, I ain't fucking with them.

• 31:05Matt McCusker?

  Well, you know what they're doing with weed too, is they're taking, you know like K two and spice and all that?

• 31:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 31:09Matt McCusker?

  They're just taking this synthetic like cannabinoids and just like, it's like THC and they just make it in a lab and it's like one molecule off, so it's like technically legal.

• 31:17Speaker 00

  Right.

• 31:17Matt McCusker?

  And they just spray it on like shit weed and they're, they're doing that now.

• 31:20Speaker 00

  They is CBD, THC, seven, Delta eight.

• 31:24Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, yeah, it's kinda fucked up and now weed's legal dude, like it's.

• 31:28Speaker 00

  Not, not in Texas.

• 31:29Matt McCusker?

  Yes, it is, cause here's the thing, they're doing Delta nine, so, so with weed, you know, it's like Delta nine THC, that's the illegal substance. You know how you have to, when you make brownies, you have to heat weed up?

• 31:40Speaker 00

  Right.

• 31:40Matt McCusker?

  To get that, that, like that whatever, uh, carbox, they call it carboxylate, you gotta heat it up to like make it active. And all you're doing is, so weed naturally is THC dash A, it's a carbon molecule.

• 31:51Speaker 00

  Right.

• 31:52Matt McCusker?

  When you heat it up, you remove the carbon molecule and then you can like eat it and get high from it.

• 31:56Speaker 00

  Right.

• 31:56Matt McCusker?

  So, they're just testing weed as is, as THC A.

• 31:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:59Matt McCusker?

  And saying it's hemp and it's totally legal, you can get it shipped in Texas too.

• 32:03Speaker 00

  I got my own brand, but that's how you gotta do it, you gotta say cannabis.

• 32:06Matt McCusker?

  Yes.

• 32:07Speaker 00

  Once you say cannabis, that's just legal and Trump made that shit, I don't know, look it up.

• 32:11Matt McCusker?

  What's your, what's your brand?

• 32:12Speaker 00

  Um, it's called Texas Tea.

• 32:14Matt McCusker?

  That's, oh, I see.

• 32:14Speaker 00

  You get it like the lean.

• 32:15Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 32:16Speaker 00

  But it's.

• 32:16Matt McCusker?

  That's awesome.

• 32:17Speaker 00

  I'm saying the syrup, so yeah, but, and then, um, my overall brand is called Persona Pack.

• 32:21Matt McCusker?

  Nice.

• 32:22Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying, but even with like the weed shit, like, just how you go to the strip club during the day?

• 32:26Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 32:26Speaker 00

  I go at night, you're a white, man. They're gonna press me regardless, you gotta think, I be the Rico case, like John, John guy that got caught with two thousand pounds, you know what I'm saying?

• 32:36Matt McCusker?

  Damn.

• 32:37Speaker 00

  Five hundred K money launder. That was before I signed my deal, you know what I'm saying? So that reputation.

• 32:43Matt McCusker?

  How many pounds again?

• 32:44Speaker 00

  Two thousand. So they were watching us, they said two thousand pounds.

• 32:46Matt McCusker?

  A ton.

• 32:47Speaker 00

  Hell, yeah.

• 32:48Matt McCusker?

  Literally a ton. You're called with a ton.

• 32:49Speaker 00

  Hell, yeah.

• 32:50Matt McCusker?

  That's crazy.

• 32:50Speaker 00

  For sure you can lift that shit up.

• 32:52Matt McCusker?

  How'd you, how'd you beat it? How do you even?

• 32:55Speaker 00

  Shit. First year I go hire Ken Schaefer, Tev London, you know what I'm saying? He taxed the fuck out of my young ass. Had to give him a hundred K. I was hurt. I was hurt. But yeah, so hire him, don't get in no more trouble. Let that shit fight out and then let T A C A and Delta nine come into play around twenty twenty. Go on your damn case. Go on tour, go on the run, come back, go to jail for a month, walk in front of the judge, dismissed.

• 33:24Matt McCusker?

  That's awesome, man.

• 33:25Speaker 00

  Hell, yeah.

• 33:25Matt McCusker?

  Congrats.

• 33:26Speaker 00

  They offered me eight years.

• 33:27Matt McCusker?

  What?

• 33:27Speaker 00

  Off the muscle. So I like, damn, I ain't take that shit. For weed, bro.

• 33:32Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 33:33Speaker 00

  For weed. You got white men out here making billions off the shit and you worried about little old me?

• 33:37Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, it's ridiculous. Dude, I had, I had a guy on who was, um, he got caught, so he was a white dude. He got caught selling LSD in ninety two.

• 33:45Speaker 00

  Right.

• 33:46Matt McCusker?

  Dude, he got caught with, he didn't even get, he didn't get caught with anything personally. It was just all he was sending Western unions and they like traced it back to him.

• 33:52Speaker 00

  Right.

• 33:53Matt McCusker?

  Uh, dude, they wanted to give him like thirty five, thirty years, I think, for like maybe a couple sheets of acid, like something crazy. So they're like, but the weed, they're really killing people and now it's like, nobody wants to be the last prosecutor. Happened to Kamala. She was fucking crushing people on like bullshit weed charges.

• 34:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 34:09Matt McCusker?

  Landscape shifts and now it's like, yeah, remember you throw those people in jail and it fucking killed her? So I don't think, I don't think judges, if they have political, like they want to rise in the political world, want to be the last guy.

• 34:19Speaker 00

  Cause that's crazy. Like y'all really stopping family. Weed, bro, listen, this one thing about weed. Lean, yes, I might fight you over that shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Get mad. Perks? Yes, fuck with you. It's people that back in the day in the streets, that we probably seen each other, shout out fault. But we met over a blunt of weed and became best friends for life.

• 34:41Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 34:41Speaker 00

  Or like finally, bro, weed is so cool. Like, once I start smoking weed with people and shit, meeting new people, networking is like. A spiritual bum, pause. But it's like, it is something about smoking a blunt with somebody like, it is so real.

• 34:54Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 34:54Speaker 00

  It is so, so real about sharing a blunt, like, you know what I'm saying? It ain't, ain't like we smoking roxy together or some shit of heroin, you feel me? But I heard in Portland, you could walk around with like an eighth of heroin, an eighth of cocaine and not go to jail.

• 35:07Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, I think they, I think they did that there. I don't, I don't know how it's gonna work. I mean, hopefully.

• 35:12Speaker 00

  No, they been doing it.

• 35:13Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 35:13Speaker 00

  You know, I.

• 35:14Matt McCusker?

  They totally decriminalize that thing.

• 35:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was on tour. Every time I go to tour, they say that shit. I'm like, that's crazy. I don't wanna get too political, but I know why they do that.

• 35:22Matt McCusker?

  Why?

• 35:22Speaker 00

  Cause ain't that many motherfucking black people in Portland. And then most of the people that use it, they be, oh, you're color. And shit, they be like drugged out, but they be functional as fuck.

• 35:33Matt McCusker?

  That's kinda nice.

• 35:34Speaker 00

  They be having a family, like, they be running shit, they functional as fuck. You know what I'm saying? So they probably let that shit slide up there. Houston? Been out here caught with no dog food, been out here caught with no cocaine.

• 35:44Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, you go to jail.

• 35:45Speaker 00

  Mandatory mental. Yeah, hell yeah. You gonna go to jail for sure.

• 35:48Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, Philly's like that though. Philly, they like to criminalize weed, but yeah, if you get caught with heroin or coke, maybe, I don't know. We had, we had that guy who was just like letting everything go for a while, but I don't think it really worked that well.

• 35:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, for sure. They didn't let weed be all the way illegal in Texas. I don't know why they doing all that.

• 36:02Matt McCusker?

  It's coming. You got all these people from California moving. People from California with a bunch of money are moving here and they're gonna be like, bro, knock it off. But now you can have, like, I guess Austin, they don't really care.

• 36:11Speaker 00

  You have like a, see, Austin, see you in Austin.

• 36:14Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 36:14Speaker 00

  Austin don't give a flying fuck.

• 36:15Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, they don't care.

• 36:16Speaker 00

  Like, this is like the most coolest spot in Texas, like, on like some chill hippie bob shit. I love the shows in Austin. I love how the fans react. They gonna buy the fuck out some merch. Like, they support for real.

• 36:27Matt McCusker?

  Yeah. But yeah, I, I heard if you leave Austin in another part of Texas, you can get like locked up for a vape cartridge.

• 36:32Speaker 00

  Man, oh, that's a, yeah, nah, that's a feeling. You get caught with a vape cartridge in Houston, that's controlled substance. So that's like having crack cocaine. That's like having perks. That's like having that.

• 36:43Matt McCusker?

  Damn, that's crazy.

• 36:45Speaker 00

  Like, kids, like, y'all at school, they marijuana vape cartridge, y'all really fucking up your, it's not like getting caught with no goddamn, it's not like getting caught with a gun or weed in Texas. You get caught with a gun or whatever. You know what I'm saying?

• 36:56Matt McCusker?

  That's crazy.

• 36:57Speaker 00

  Like that's like class B misdemeanor. Even if you underage, you know what I'm saying? You get caught with that controlled succulent, alright look, you know a lot about weed. You gotta get the butane out of it to make the rise and all that shit. You gotta manufacture the weed, you know what I'm saying? So, once you're doing that, it's a controlled substance, it's no longer just an herb.

• 37:15Matt McCusker?

  Oh, cuz yeah, you like process it.

• 37:17Speaker 00

  Hell yeah, so you process it, so that's how they charge that.

• 37:20Matt McCusker?

  Jesus Christ, yeah, I remember talking to someone who like got pulled over and he's like, yeah, I was in jail for vape cartridges. What? It's in Philly, they, they really don't care. Philly, you can get caught with, even like years ago. I, I, I feel like they, they would really get you in the early two thousands, but in Philly today, if you got caught with five pounds of weed, I don't know if you'd even go to jail.

• 37:38Speaker 00

  Man, I be hearing people getting pulled over in Houston, five pounds, twenty pounds, they just taking it or like not giving a fuck. That shit would have my heart doo doo, doo doo, just because of what I went through. And like, bro, they had me on the news, they made it seem like I was just El Chapo, which I probably was on the weed shit.

• 37:53Matt McCusker?

  Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Two thousand pounds is a lot, man.

• 37:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, but it's not, alright, I'm not robbing nobody, I wasn't harming nobody. And everybody that came to me wanted this drug that's legal at ninety percent of the goddamn state.

• 38:04Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, I know, it's kinda bullshit. You kinda got in the right, that was like the perfect timing, man. Five years ago, you would have been, five years before that, they're, they probably would have booked you like completely.

• 38:13Speaker 00

  Nah, for sure, it, bro, it's still niggas doing time, bro. When I had to just go and do that like that little month to get off this shit to beat it, it was, nigga had eighteen days for nine doobies.

• 38:25Matt McCusker?

  What?

• 38:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, I ain't gonna lie, I would have, I would have resisted and been mad as fuck, acting a fool. Like, I'm fucked up.

• 38:31Matt McCusker?

  Eighteen days for a joint sucks. Yeah, Texas is way behind, I feel like everywhere, anywhere else in the country. Like flying, you can fly with weed, they don't give a fuck at all.

• 38:40Speaker 00

  They don't give a damn.

• 38:41Matt McCusker?

  At all.

• 38:41Speaker 00

  They don't give a damn, carry on all that, do that shit in Houston. I'd never fly out the airport with weed, I don't care if it's one blunt, I'ma smoke it in the car before I get out.

• 38:48Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 38:49Speaker 00

  I'd be like, hell nah.

• 38:50Matt McCusker?

  I've been, I pushed it to the, I, I've chilled cuz I talk about it publicly, I've been pushing, I go to Denver and come back, it's like, I'll fly with a couple ounces and just, you know.

• 38:59Speaker 00

  Right.

• 38:59Matt McCusker?

  Pucker up my butthole through security and just fucking go through it, but they, they don't care, dude, I've had a guy one time, cuz I like, sometimes I'll fly with my kids and like bring like, I brought like a jar of peanut butter home one time. And they were like, they moved literally weed out of the way and were like, what's this, peanut butter? And they're like, you can't be bringing this, and I was just like, hey man, take the peanut butter.

• 39:17Speaker 00

  No liquids, there go, there go through your bag, all that shit, I, I bring a mouthwash. They go through my bag, you know what I'm saying, shit like that, so.

• 39:25Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, I had one guy one time, uh, give me shit when I was leaving with, I had just a pack of like pre-rolled joints. He's like, where do you, why are you hiding these? I'm not hiding them. I was like, I just put them in, I put them in a thing so they didn't smell, cause I don't want to get rude on the airplane. He's like, well, it's not that you have them, it's that you're hiding them from me. I'm like, I don't give a fuck that you have them, man. I was like, if you're gonna take them, take them.

• 39:43Speaker 00

  I'm like, dude.

• 39:46Speaker 00

  How do I say this? See, I be worried about bombs on the plane.

• 39:49Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 39:50Speaker 00

  Worry about some other shit. Do like, I look, bro, I don't even like heights. I ain't about to do nothing to the plane, do not harass me, leave me alone, and my jury always go off.

• 39:59Matt McCusker?

  It's a good point, like dude, I'm scared of heights.

• 40:00Speaker 00

  Like, I'm like, bro, then my jury always go off, then I get so fucking mad, cause now they going through my shit.

• 40:06Matt McCusker?

  They grab your dick too, dude, they're gonna, you have to go through the thing?

• 40:09Speaker 00

  Yes, bro, then, but see, I learned how to do it now. I go in, pull my pants all the way the fuck up. I don't wear jeans, buttons, nothing is gonna go off, nothing. I wear Nike tech suit, pull my shit all the way up. Like, goddamn, like, I for sure gotta with you. Pull that motherfucker up, hands up. Cause they always choose the weirdest dude to like, then they try to run it down. You wanna do it here at a private realm, go like this, down the back, down the middle, woo. But you got some, some, some dudes, they be cool, they don't really be trying to do it like that.

• 40:40Matt McCusker?

  For sure, yeah.

• 40:40Speaker 00

  Some nigga make sure they go down your ass.

• 40:42Matt McCusker?

  We have a friend, dude, dude, our friend Nate, I don't know what it is, he was with, he was with Shane the one time, they like absolutely molested him. Then he was with me the one time, and I turned around and like, dude, they were just like all over this guy, and it's, it keeps happening to him.

• 40:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:56Matt McCusker?

  It sucks, man.

• 40:57Speaker 00

  He gotta switch it up.

• 40:58Matt McCusker?

  Uh, it's something, he's gotta pull his fucking pants up, I'm gonna tell him, hike your fucking pants, although his, his pants are pretty hiked, so. That's a good, why do you think pulling your pants up helps?

• 41:06Speaker 00

  I don't know, but if I don't, it always goes red right there, like right, like where my dick at, I'm like, what the, I'm like, who fucking with me here? Who, somebody's fucking with me for sure.

• 41:15Matt McCusker?

  Happened to Shannon Sharp, he said, they thought his dick was something other than a dick, and they were like, he spazzed out.

• 41:20Speaker 00

  I done went home, like, I kiss my ass. I know, I'm at the food in here now.

• 41:24Matt McCusker?

  Shit, I'd be glad for them to be like, what the fuck is that? They, they know, I'm not, they're going, yeah. They don't even make me walk through the metal detectors, they're like, man, just, go ahead, little guy, you're right, let's go. You wanna, you wanna go with the pilot? I go, yeah, thanks, man. They give me their little pilot wings and smack me on the butt, and they go, get on the plane, little guy.

• 41:45Matt McCusker?

  Damn, so you can get caught with a gun in Texas and it's not as much trouble as?

• 41:49Speaker 00

  It ain't shit.

• 41:50Matt McCusker?

  Real, even if it's like a modified?

• 41:52Speaker 00

  I done went to jail with my gun and got out, they gave it back to me, but they ain't give me back the bullets.

• 41:57Matt McCusker?

  What? But he was like, he was licensed though, you had it in your name?

• 41:59Speaker 00

  Hell no.

• 42:00Matt McCusker?

  What?

• 42:01Speaker 00

  Just carrying like, just carrying it.

• 42:03Matt McCusker?

  Damn, they give it back?

• 42:04Speaker 00

  Hell yeah.

• 42:05Matt McCusker?

  Kinda chill. Why'd they give it back, you think? Cause in Philly, they fucking crush you for guns.

• 42:09Speaker 00

  Cause we got open carry. You got, and it's really been open carry, you feel me? So like, the only time they had trip, it depends what, what territory you in. Let's say if I'm on Bissin' It. Depending on the cop, they be like, oh, he's a gang member. Uh, I'm gonna take you to jail for this. Class be missing me because you're a gang member.

• 42:26Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 42:27Speaker 00

  But now, I had so much success, the police be pulling me over to take pictures.

• 42:31Matt McCusker?

  That's cool.

• 42:31Speaker 00

  And they, "Hey Max, so you don't got no registration. Wanna take pictures? I just for my kid."

• 42:35Matt McCusker?

  That's kinda tight.

• 42:35Speaker 00

  Then like, I bought a Trackhawk. That's the most stolen car. Like, like Hellcats and Trackhogs, demons and shit. So they'll pull me over, make sure it's not stolen. They realize who I am and take a picture and be like, if we ever see this car stolen, we gonna get it back for you.

• 42:49Matt McCusker?

  That's nice.

• 42:50Speaker 00

  Hell yeah. That's the first time they was on my side.

• 42:52Matt McCusker?

  How do you feel about that?

• 42:54Speaker 00

  Nah, them cars get stolen every day, like.

• 42:56Matt McCusker?

  Do they really? I'm saying, how do you, how do you feel about them being on your side, I'm saying?

• 43:00Speaker 00

  Cause they not on my side, but they is on my side. But then I realized, I'm thirty-four, some of these kids are my age. Some of them younger than me, some of them love my music. So it be, it be give and take.

• 43:08Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, dude, I'm, dude, my, uh, I never, like, growing up, my family, we didn't really have any cops. My mom's cousin was a detective. But really, we had zero, mostly, like, the immediate family, there was zero. My dad was like, they did like trash. So they, he was always like, they're a fucking pain in the ass, they pull your trucks over. I never really got to interact with police, like, police officers at all. And then, my wife, when we, after a couple of years of dating, became a cop. It was the craziest thing in the fucking world. She just became a cop and I got to like, meet cops and talk to them. My wife, now.

• 43:40Speaker 00

  She's a cop?

• 43:40Matt McCusker?

  She's not, she retired quickly, but it was, uh, she was a Philly cop for like, and she had gone to school for like criminal forensic. So she was like, trying to get into a lab and like, well, if you're sworn in, it's this whole thing. She's like, fuck it, I'll just become a cop. Dude, it was, and dude, I had like pounds of weed in my basement.

• 43:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's like, yeah, I about to ask you. She ever threaten to lock your ass up?

• 44:00Matt McCusker?

  She would fuck around, she would fuck around about it, but never.

• 44:03Speaker 00

  Right.

• 44:03Matt McCusker?

  She never crossed that line of like being like seriously like being like that, but.

• 44:06Speaker 00

  I'd be scared today to cop.

• 44:08Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, dude, it was kind of cool though, because I got to like really interact with cops like a lot and get to really understand like how they ticking away.

• 44:16Speaker 00

  For sure.

• 44:16Matt McCusker?

  And that's all they want is for you like if they pull you over, they just want you to be like, damn dude, like you have the hardest job ever and just really pump them up like, bro, you, nobody, and it's, it actually is true because I like inner, I like got to like, hear about what, what they're dealing with, the shit, and I'm like, it is literally the worst fucking job ever. If you get pulled up and you turn the light on right away in the interior like.

• 44:37Speaker 00

  It's the worst legal job. I'd say selling crack worse.

• 44:40Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, it'd be better if I were selling crack. If I, I would, you know, I would envy a cop for sure. Especially if it all came crashing down. It's like, I could have had benefits, could have had healthcare.

• 44:49Speaker 00

  The cops, it depends on what kind of cop, because really cops that help the community. Like, we had cops that'd come make sure the kid's good. Be like, hey, man, y'all over here, move that around, the kids come and shit like that, you know, because they in the community. It's not like you don't know them.

• 45:01Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 45:01Speaker 00

  But then we got a cop, he's the gang bang on us. Gang bang on, his name, Iceman, he'd come on the block, he'd throw a CK, that's Crip killer to all the Crips. We'd be laughing, recording him though. Nigga took me to jail, jamming my music, like, yeah, man. Then there was another cop, I think his name, Jordan, he was like.

• 45:18Matt McCusker?

  Who the Crip killer? Are they just made up their own thing?

• 45:20Speaker 00

  So, my block is a lot of Crips.

• 45:23Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 45:23Speaker 00

  With the Crips and shit like that. So, oh yeah, you know, duh.

• 45:26Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, so he would throw.

• 45:27Speaker 00

  He'd come on our block and throw a Crip killer. And then be telling us like, yeah, the cops down the street, they killing y'all right now. They buying cars. Whoa, whoa, whoa, he messy, he funny though. Funny.

• 45:37Matt McCusker?

  That is kind of funny. Yeah, my, my wife said there was a lot of that. There was people who are like.

• 45:42Speaker 00

  Training day, ramp art.

• 45:44Matt McCusker?

  Yes, and like, and it's one of those things where there's, she was like, there's not technically a quota, but they're on your ass about, they call it activity, where they're like, hey, man, you don't have any activity. And if you're going and like getting guns and all this stuff, you're like, your promotion's just kind of awaiting you. But then there's like, then like, you know, because they, they get down on people, like, yeah, he's a fucking bum, he doesn't do anything. But my wife, she's small. She's like a small lady and she would just, what she would get on is like when she would see kids that aren't in car seats. She would devastate. She would like no mercy on that shit. And, uh, other than that, she didn't really give a fuck about anything. But she was just making sure people weren't doing anything crazy. And the domestics are, that's the weird part when you gotta go into like fights between couples.

• 46:21Speaker 03

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• 46:21Matt McCusker?

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• 48:02Speaker 03

  Incredible.

• 48:03Speaker 00

  Hell, yeah.

• 48:04Matt McCusker?

  I hate arguments.

• 48:05Speaker 00

  You know what's crazy though? Like the old I get paying taxes and shit like that. I still got this mindset of the police had to be woo woo. But it's not really like that, bro. Like, not no more, bro, like. And it's crazy, like, a lot of people I went to school with, so I see like they pull these saucers. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that, like, it ain't that bad. It's just like when you against the system, cause like, not all of them fucked up. Just like, not every person or every gangbanger you meet is fucked up. Like, not every rapper is a stuck up narcissist. Dumb asses, they're bigger than the world. But ninety-nine percent of them, for sure.

• 48:38Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, that's like cops. There's like, there are a lot of them that were like, oh yeah, you're the exact stereotype people talk about with cops. There's, there's a lot of those guys.

• 48:46Speaker 00

  I ain't gonna lie though, if I was a cop, I would be catching niggas on point. I know every, that, they would hate me.

• 48:52Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 48:53Speaker 00

  They would hate me, cause I know, I'm like, yo, I know them niggas doing, huh? Come here, nigga, what y'all doing?

• 48:57Matt McCusker?

  There was a guy, um, what you gonna call it? There was these dudes in Baltimore that were doing, they were called Backpack Pops. Where they was, you know, and it's like, it is kind of like, they must know what's going on. If they see a guy with like a little like school bag or a backpack. They would just, cause it's like, if you see a dude who's not school age with a backpack, he's selling for a drug. Like, no one's just walking around with a school bag. Besides me, I carry my laptop in there right now. But it's one of those, and they would just pull up and be like, get out of the, and they would just ditch the backpack and like, sweet, and just take it. And they were robbing people doing that.

• 49:23Speaker 00

  Nah, cops do that a lot. Like, I done had cops pull up, take lean from me, take my guns. They took, for being county, I took a hundred dollars from me, this last time, when I had went to jail. But, I was already get the fuck out. I let y'all keep that little shit. But they be doing it.

• 49:37Matt McCusker?

  Really? Yeah.

• 49:38Speaker 00

  Chains, jewelry, laptops, they'd take it all. Especially your guns.

• 49:42Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 49:42Speaker 00

  Like guns and drugs, like, sometimes, like, you'll get booked, and you'll think, well shit, I ain't gonna lie. If I got three pints of lean, you take me to jail, take that lean, bro. I don't want you to put that lean on me, nigga, I get a lawyer and fight that lean.

• 49:54Matt McCusker?

  True, true, yeah.

• 49:54Speaker 00

  You might as well don't even put that felony on me. Like, like, I beat seven felonies. Like, I can carry a pistol legally. I don't have no felonies.

• 50:02Matt McCusker?

  Oh wow, so you actually, oh, I, I, that makes sense.

• 50:04Speaker 00

  Hell yeah.

• 50:05Matt McCusker?

  Beat set, was it all at the same time, or is it?

• 50:07Speaker 00

  So, with this Rico was spoiled, then I had another three when I caught my first pistol case.

• 50:12Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 50:12Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying? Like, you ever went hunting, like, hunting for like years and shit?

• 50:16Matt McCusker?

  I never did. My, my dad was big into hunting. I'd never done it.

• 50:19Speaker 00

  Well shit, I was big into hunting with just the ops. So I was hunting the ops, you know what I'm saying? In, in the middle of hunting the ops. That's when I caught my first fucking pistol case, man.

• 50:27Matt McCusker?

  They just caught you with a gun on you?

• 50:28Speaker 00

  No, I'm so stupid, my ricky ass. Like, like, like, just like my, I ain't gonna say ricky ass, but I was like young, like seventeen. We see in the car, well first we went in the party looking for him, we was gonna fight him. Whoa whoa, then we get in the car, boom, I see him, he put his head out the window. I'm like, oh nigga, it's good, come on, we gonna follow him. Police get behind me, I had just bought a car off the side of highway six for like two thousand dollars. But I had a paper tag, but it was a bullshit paper tag, it was cardboard and written on it with pen. So the police get behind us, I'm like, oh shit, what the actual fuck? So I'm driving for a little bit.

• 51:06Matt McCusker?

  Oh, you wrote your tag in and a pen on cardboard?

• 51:08Speaker 00

  I didn't know better, I didn't, I bought it from the dude. And he sold me a lemon, it ended up fucking up. So we get, so boom, I get to Dakota's sec. It's an old ass cop, I'm like, I got him, I got my little brother them in the car, they play football, varsity, I don't wanna fuck up their life. Cause you know, I knew I was gonna be a rapper, so I was like, yeah, let me hit someone to my bill or something. But nah, for real, so I'm nervous, I'm like, man, my mama gonna kill me if I got my brother out here, he got scouts coming to the game. I'm like, fuck it, give me the gun, put it on my waist. I hopped out, put my hands up, he like, hey man chill, just relax, whoa whoa, as soon as he came to me, I uh, start running, so I'm gone.

• 51:44Matt McCusker?

  Oh no.

• 51:44Speaker 00

  As I'm running, I just feel shit, I'm getting dizzy, shit like that, then I just fall. I had a Nike track jacket on, he grabbed the string, so while I was running, that shit was choking.

• 51:54Matt McCusker?

  Oh, you were just choking the whole time?

• 51:55Speaker 00

  Hell yeah, hiding motherfucking, I fall, boom, had the pistol on my hip, you know what I'm saying? Fall with the pistol on my hip, they put me in handcuffs, but he a old cop. Then some young cops came, they like, oh yeah, you the one who beat your motherfucking ass.

• 52:09Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 52:09Speaker 00

  They searched the car, he said, it didn't smell like weed, he was gonna write me a ticket. So I did all that shit for nothing, then they didn't even find the pistol. This is like two thousand nine, I had on purple skinny jeans, so pistol go down to my skinny jeans. I'm in the back of the car, and I wiggle the, wiggle the gun out of my skinny jeans, put it back on my shoe, keep the gun up under the seat. Like that, you feel me?

• 52:31Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 52:32Speaker 00

  They check me in, boom, so I'm just got, so my only charge was a baiting arrest.

• 52:37Matt McCusker?

  Oh, okay.

• 52:37Speaker 00

  I'm like, it's cool, man, next morning I'm in the detox tank, the cop come out, hey. You're not going nowhere fast. And I knew, I, I knew he found the gun.

• 52:47Matt McCusker?

  Uh, could they make, they, could they say it was yours though?

• 52:50Speaker 00

  Hell yeah, he put it on me. But I'm like, how? You didn't bring me in with it? Like, you know what I'm saying? But this what happened. So I got a class B misdemeanor in summer. Hell nah, I got like three felonies. First one was definitely of a firearm from a sheriff. Then they tried to say it was a burglary habitation. Then they tried to link me to other burglaries. So I'm in jail. I called my mama, tell her what's going on. I called my brother. He like, where you got that gun from? I'm like, man, come up here. I ain't gonna tell you on the phone. I told him like, yeah, nigga, this is the gun that Shamonte gave me. Woo woo woo. My mama's a, um, she's a daycare teacher. Kind of find out Shamonte ain't really breaking nobody's house. He stole that gun from his auntie that's a sheriff. And I ain't know that. And my mama know his auntie, cause my mama was watching his auntie daughter at school.

• 53:34Speaker 00

  My mama told his, his auntie what happened. She got all those charges dropped.

• 53:38Matt McCusker?

  Oh, that's kind of nice.

• 53:40Speaker 00

  Hell yeah.

• 53:41Matt McCusker?

  Damn, he stole a fucking sheriff's gun?

• 53:43Speaker 00

  His dumb ass. He was like, yeah, like, he was trying to be down with us and shit like that. He like, yeah, man, I got this gun. I've been hitting nicks. I'm down. I'm like, yeah, whatever.

• 53:50Matt McCusker?

  So he wasn't?

• 53:51Speaker 00

  I, he wasn't even my friend like that. He was my little brother and them homie. He's always want to hang around me and show like whatever. So he did that shit the whole time. He stole from his auntie. That's lame.

• 53:59Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 54:00Speaker 00

  You don't do that shit. You don't take from your people, you feel me?

• 54:02Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 54:02Speaker 00

  But thank God.

• 54:04Matt McCusker?

  Fucking Christ.

• 54:05Speaker 00

  It was his auntie, you feel me?

• 54:06Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, that's probably why they're kicking such, like kicking such a cloud of dust over, cause it was a sheriff's gun. How the fuck did he get this?

• 54:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, so like, other than, like, other than that, I don't really got too much criminal history. I, I probably got like, getting caught with a gun and some weed.

• 54:20Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 54:20Speaker 00

  I got like seven pistol cases. That's just cause I had weed, you feel me?

• 54:23Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 54:23Speaker 00

  But other than that, I'm not no super criminal. Just know that I always had some weed in the gun on me in Texas. That's normal as fuck.

• 54:29Matt McCusker?

  True. But that is, that's the killer combo when you have the gun and weed. That's when they kind of really.

• 54:34Speaker 00

  Hell yeah, that's what they make you like. But that's so small though. But see, this is why Texas, this is why weed not legal. Do you want your guns? Or do you want marijuana? And you know, we a gun state. Texas live by their guns. Stand on their gun, everybody, you feel me? So.

• 54:50Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, what do you think about all the new guns with all like the, like the prema, like the ones you can make yourself and 3D printing and all that stuff? Like the guy who killed the CEO, said he like just had a 3D printing gun?

• 54:58Speaker 00

  I mean, cause shit, them motherfuckers, they not traceable. So you gonna smack shit up all day. You know what I'm saying? And like, unless they find like the GSR on you, like the gun part or some shit like that. Shit, that's dangerous, bro, cuz most guns got serials, so you can know, okay, I caught you with this gun, this gun was used in this murder cuz it's a serial. But if it's a ghost gun, it's out of the... Then if you got a ghost gun with a switch.

• 55:21Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, you go to jail for like twenty years, don't you?

• 55:24Speaker 00

  Like, so I think it's mandatory minimum of ten years for, um, a switch, but I know that you can get a binary switch too, that's legal, where it's like but you gotta go to a special gun class for that, you know what I'm saying? But, yeah, switch is crazy, and that's all right, a lot of these young niggas, that's what they got, switches.

• 55:43Matt McCusker?

  Dude, terrifying.

• 55:44Speaker 00

  And them hoes fast, like

• 55:48Speaker 00

  Imagine a premature young nigga, they can't fight, and that's a punk, never been hit in the face or broken arm, wanna be a gangster and got a gun, and he's feeling mad, come up on you.

• 55:58Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, dude.

• 55:59Speaker 00

  Like, you can't hit your target with, like, it's hard as hell to keep, like, you know what I'm saying?

• 56:03Matt McCusker?

  Keep it straight, yeah. Yeah, it seems like it's just never, it's just like spraying bullets in the general direction.

• 56:08Speaker 00

  See, I'm older, like, back when we was thugging, I ain't never had no switch, we ain't even no shit like that, like, you know what I'm saying? I know how to boom, boom.

• 56:15Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 56:16Speaker 00

  But at the same time, like, that switch shit is like, that's scary.

• 56:19Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, dude. Well, that's fucked up. Yeah, it was crazy how the guy apparently printed his own gun and just.

• 56:25Speaker 00

  Printed his own gun, yeah, nah, a lot of that shit going on, but see, in Texas, you don't gotta do all that, as long as you don't got, like, no feds, you go to the gun store.

• 56:31Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 56:32Speaker 00

  Like, it's not hard to get a gun for real, cuz if you get caught with a ghost gun, that's probably even worse.

• 56:37Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, untraceable, yeah, I guess they're saying, yeah, cuz they're like, well, if you're you want an untraceable gun, what are you doing? Why do you want that?

• 56:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

• 56:45Matt McCusker?

  Damn, dude, well, dude, what else is going on?

• 56:48Speaker 00

  Um, shit, been chilling, my clothing line, you know what I'm saying, persona, relaunching that on, on the fifth, you know what I'm saying? I got a lot of big collabs coming with that, you know what I'm saying? Shit, oh yeah, I signed artists.

• 57:03Matt McCusker?

  Did you really?

• 57:04Speaker 00

  Well, a couple artists, Cartel B, I just got my joint mentioned with Warner Brothers Records.

• 57:08Matt McCusker?

  Nice, man.

• 57:09Speaker 00

  So my label is at Warner Brothers.

• 57:10Matt McCusker?

  That's cool. Oh, yeah, cuz you just did a fucking, uh, you just did an album, like, you just released a what, like?

• 57:15Speaker 00

  But that was independent, so look, as far as Max O'Krean, me. I'm 100% independent.

• 57:21Matt McCusker?

  Okay.

• 57:22Speaker 00

  But my label where I got my artists at is with Warner Brothers.

• 57:25Matt McCusker?

  That's cool. How does that work?

• 57:27Speaker 00

  Work either like so, I got, so you get a joint venture. You know what I'm saying? You get exclusive or non-exclusive. So you get a non-exclusive JB, they gonna give you some money, they gonna back your artists. But let's say you had Warner Brothers. If it's non-exclusive, you could go to Empire, you could go to Interscope. You can go to Capitol with your same imprint, cuz it's non-exclusive. But if they give to you exclusively, you know what I'm saying? Now, your admin is they admin, you know what I'm saying? Now, your staff is they staff. You can still build your own staff and they gonna open up your budget. Cuz now you can't go nowhere else and you investing in business with them.

• 58:02Matt McCusker?

  Yeah. What do they try to do? Just get like a piece of your touring? Is like what's?

• 58:05Speaker 00

  Nah, so they don't give nothing to me.

• 58:07Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 58:07Speaker 00

  So where my artist is, so I walk in with my percentage. They take they percentage and then now you actually get the bigger machine. So instead of me having to wake up every morning cuz he signing to me, okay, here, here's the money for your video. Here's the money for this and that. He got a set budget, plus he get the advance from, from the label. So it's basically like you signing to me, but my admin is Warner Brothers.

• 58:27Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, but where do they collect their advance on if you're not selling CD? Like, nobody sells CDs anymore.

• 58:31Speaker 00

  I mean, so that, oh, so it's streaming. So it's just, so it's different platforms. So Spotify, Apple Music.

• 58:37Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 58:37Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying? Shit like that, um, YouTube. Then you got different syncs, then you got publishing.

• 58:44Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 58:45Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying? You got mechanical royalties. It's all different kind of royalties, you know what I'm saying? So publishing would be like, let's say if you start a TV show, you put it on Netflix.

• 58:54Matt McCusker?

  Yeah.

• 58:55Speaker 00

  And then like you wanna use my song at the beginning, so that'd be on the publishing side. So I get a publishing check, you know what I'm saying? I could be independent with my publishing or I can go get a deal with my publishing. So my artist, he, right now, he's with Warner Brothers, you know what I'm saying? But we gonna get a publishing check somewhere else too, you know what I'm saying? So never, oh yeah, another thing, never sign your pub with the record label that you at. Always, you don't wanna keep everything in one house cuz when shit come crashing down, it come crashing down. You wanna keep shit spreading around and shit have checks and balances on your shit.

• 59:26Matt McCusker?

  Yeah. So you just, oh, when did you start, when did you start a label?

• 59:30Speaker 00

  Shit.

• 59:32Speaker 00

  I started a label in 2019. I had one artist. It was called Crankly Global. I abandoned that one and I started Persona. I had a label for like four years, but I didn't sign my first artist, like legit, legit to it, until last year. Cartel B. He going up everywhere. Took him and Rolling Loud with me. You know what I'm saying? He got songs. He got some with Boss Man D-Lo coming. He got some shit with Big X to plug. Like, he poppin'. Check him out.

• 59:58Matt McCusker?

  That's awesome.

• 59:59Speaker 00

  Everybody think he Brian Pumper though.

• 1:00:03Speaker 00

  They be calling him.

• 1:00:04Matt McCusker?

  He looks like Brian Pumper?

• 1:00:05Speaker 00

  Shit, that's what they be saying. I ain't know what the fuck Brian Pumper was, and I seen him, like, nah, y'all tripping.

• 1:00:10Matt McCusker?

  That's so, Brian Pumper might be the funniest dude.

• 1:00:13Speaker 00

  Did somebody crack some eggs on his head and he just sit there?

• 1:00:16Matt McCusker?

  Something, yeah. He like, he was like just a big adult. He was like a male porn star.

• 1:00:20Speaker 00

  I know.

• 1:00:20Matt McCusker?

  He just lost his fucking mind.

• 1:00:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, tripping.

• 1:00:22Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, he kinda lost it, but he is funny. He makes really, his videos are funny as shit.

• 1:00:28Speaker 00

  Like comedy videos?

• 1:00:29Matt McCusker?

  Yeah, I don't know if he's trying to be funny or what, but they're genuinely funny. He was, he got in trouble because he was, from what I heard, he, you know, he's doing like, you know, professional porn. And then when you're doing that, you can't like fuck around on your own, apparently.

• 1:00:41Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:00:41Matt McCusker?

  Because you need to be tested, all that stuff.

• 1:00:42Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:00:43Matt McCusker?

  And what they say he did, I don't know if it's true or not, but they're saying that he was just like hawking people down on the subway. He would get, he would just hawk ladies down the subway and be like, I'll give you 500 bucks right now. We'll film a porn tape. And, you know, he was getting people to do it, but he wasn't like testing them or anything. And then he'd go back to like a legit studio. And they're like, bro, you can't be doing that here. So, that's what they say his, uh...

• 1:01:04Speaker 00

  Dabbling and dabbling, don't know what's happening.

• 1:01:05Matt McCusker?

  Exactly.

• 1:01:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, that shit crazy, man.

• 1:01:09Matt McCusker?

  Well, dude, thanks, man. I think we're, I think we're good, bro. Thanks for coming and doing this.

• 1:01:13Speaker 00

  You already know, man. Anytime.

• 1:01:14Matt McCusker?

  Appreciate it, man. You crushed it.

• 1:01:16Speaker 00

  My boy.