Kylie & Caleb Hearon on “Piping Hot” NFL Tea, Homecoming Outrage & Potty Training Horror Story | Ep. 37

Kylie’s back for a brand new episode of Not Gonna Lie presented by Peppa Pig and starts the show by shouting out some Real One Comments of the Week, highlighting the fact that Jason did in fact find the clip of Kylie talking about his mullet last week (2:13)! Kylie then brings back “Places Kylie Has *Some* Business Being” to relive her insane experience at the Eagles game with Hannah Einbinder and explain the backstory on her superstitious decision to face away from the field at the end of the game (3:15). Then, in Doomscroll of the Week, Kylie weighs in on older generations calling out high schoolers’ homecoming dresses this year and reminisces on the best (& worst) of millennial fashion (7:40). She’s also inspired by a TikTok of an NFL fan’s girlfriend shouting “squeeze it!” during a game to then come up with even more nonsense phrases the Real Ones can test out (12:10)! After that, in response to the viral potty training clip from The Other Podcast, Kylie gives her take on potty training in the Kelce household (19:14) and also tells a hilarious bathroom story involving Bennie in a new edition of “You Know What’s F*cked Up?” (15:12) Kylie is then joined by comedian, actor and TikTok sensation Caleb Hearon (22:30)! Caleb talks about the reactions he received from Kylie mentioning his podcast on NGL and the two bond over their mutual love for each other’s work. Kylie then asks Caleb about his brand new, debut stand up special “Caleb Hearon: Model Comedian” starting with the comment that led to him choosing that title (28:25). Caleb shares some more of his favorite comments and they also discuss the types of DMs they receive. Then, Caleb tells Kylie about what it’s like performing in Philly and also issues an apology to his Philly based fans (35:10). This leads them into talking about their Chiefs-Eagles rivalry and their favorite Chiefs players of all time (38:01). Shout out Uncle Trav. Caleb also pitches Kylie on his idea for a brand new NFL broadcast to get reality TV fans interested in the game (45:15). Kylie also asks Caleb about the viral TikTok story he told about Cooper and the cologne (50:13), as well as what it’s like to have his mom on his podcast in a special Doomscroll: Caleb Edition (53:35). Lastly, Caleb tells Kylie about acting opposite Meryl Streep and Anne Hathaway in The Devil Wears Prada 2 (56:10). Make sure you tune into More Sh*t Monday on the Not Gonna Lie YouTube channel for more exclusive clips from Kylie’s longer conversation with Caleb Hearon. . . . Purchase NGL Merch: www.nglkylie.com Support the Show: Peppa Pig: Your little Peppa Pig fan will be thrilled with the Walmart exclusive Oinks & Snuggles Evie doll and the adorable Peppa Dress-Up Wardrobe! Shop new PEPPA PIG toys NOW at Walmart! Watch Caleb's New Comedy Special: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Kylie Kelce?

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• 0:32Speaker 01

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• 0:46Kylie Kelce?

  Not gonna lie, I felt an immense pressure about packing lunches this year because it was my first time. And I thought, am I gonna get judged for not packing a nutritious lunch? But the number of times that lunchbox came back with a decent amount of food in it, I've succumbed to the idea

• 1:08Kylie Kelce?

  that I should pack things that are healthy, but I know they won't eat, so.

• 1:14Kylie Kelce?

  Judge away. Let's get this podcast started.

• 1:21Kylie Kelce?

  Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a Wave original. Brought to you by Peppa Pig. Let's jump in. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, former D3 athlete. That's a humble brag. That's a very humble brag. Going through a major otter phase right now. Shout out to Uncle Trav. Might have to go visit some soon. And according to my horoscope today, hmm.

• 1:46Kylie Kelce?

  Saturn's passing through Pisces.

• 1:51Kylie Kelce?

  So you know what that means? Go fucking birds! 3-0, baby.

• 1:59Kylie Kelce?

  Give me a second.

• 2:01Kylie Kelce?

  Coming up on today's episode, my doom scroll was on another level this past week. People have some strong thoughts on homecoming dresses this year. And there's a TikTok that's inspired me to give all my non-football fan real ones tips on what to say if you want to prank an NFL fan in your life. Plus, yes, I have seen you all tagging me in the potty training clip from the other podcast. I'm going to give you my take on all of it, plus a brand new addition of you know what's fucked up? After that, I'm going to be joined by one of my favorite comedians, podcasters and content creators. He just put out his debut stand-up special. Guys, I'm talking to Caleb Hearon. I'm so excited. But first, some real one comments of the week. First up, who told him?

• 2:48Kylie Kelce?

  You guys, it was a secret. Last week, I told you guys in confidence that Jason pulled off the mullet look. Now, he found the clip. He commented, mullet is coming back, baby.

• 3:08Kylie Kelce?

  No.

• 3:11Kylie Kelce?

  Look what you've done. And then we got another contender for comment of the week. From at Peyton Jameson, my boyfriend's six-year-old asked me to put on your podcast. Hey, can we listen to that lady talk with four kids?

• 3:27Kylie Kelce?

  Your message is working. Oh, no. First of all,

• 3:34Kylie Kelce?

  don't know if that's my demographic, but chart it ladies. Has there ever been a better description of this show? The lady that talks with four kids. That's it. Sums me up. Moving on to commemorate a rare occasion where I left the house to solely do something fun for myself. I'm bringing back one of my favorite segments. Places Kylie has some business being. That's right. Some of you may have seen, I went to the Eagles Rams game with one of my favorite Birds fans and former NGL guest Hannah Einbinder. First of all, go Birds. That game was bananas. I want to be clear, there were quite a few people

• 4:19Kylie Kelce?

  who acknowledged that the plans made it out of the the group chat in parentheses, podcast.

• 4:30Kylie Kelce?

  I feel very fortunate that I get to link up with people on the podcast and get to know them a little bit. But when you get to come together and bond over your Birds fandom,

• 4:45Kylie Kelce?

  it just hits a little different. So Hannah and I got the chance to cheer on the Birds together. There was a moment in time where we questioned whether or not she was ever going to be allowed to come back to a game. Uh, great news though. Like I said, go Birds, we got that W. Hannah posted this clip of all of us celebrating the blocked field goal to win the game. Queen Emma, the clip, please.

• 5:23Kylie Kelce?

  I think you can tell by my facial expression, we were a little bit excited. Uh, for our audio listeners, there was a lot of jumping, a lot of screaming, a lot of high-fiving. There was also a lot of me pointing to my chair. And why was I doing that? I'm going to tell you. Because at some point where we were trying to switch the juju, I told Hannah that we needed to figure out a way. Okay. So we started with Hannah facing the opposite direction. She was facing the wall for a minute because you know, she's committed to the bit. Okay. And by the bit, I mean, winning. And so we had her face backwards, but that didn't quite work. So then I was like, maybe I need to face backwards. So then I turned

• 6:07Kylie Kelce?

  around and sat crisscross applesauce in my chair backwards. Okay. This is where it became a full team with, it was a team effort. And by that, I mean Hannah was turned around, I was turned around, and a woman two rows behind us was giving me the play-by-play, yes or no, and a brief description for every single play that unfolded. I reposted a video on my story of us facing away from the field, you know, as Hannah wrote, to change up the energy. And I got a ton of Real One Birds fans in my DMs sharing what superstitious shit you did.

• 6:51Kylie Kelce?

  I'm gonna rapid fire some of those right now because I love them so much and they made me feel seen. I went and completely changed my clothes. It worked. I had to leave the room so they could score that final TD. Oh my God, I ordered a cheesesteak and changed my jersey at halftime. I'm a grandma of five. Does the superstition ever end? No. I went to the bathroom and plugged my ears. This is a no judgment zone. I walked outside in the third quarter and they scored two touchdowns, came back in and they weren't looking so great. So I got sent back outside for the rest of the game. Can't be a jinx. You're damn right. You can't. These are my people. These are my people. Um, you have to do what you have to do. And here's the deal.

• 7:36Kylie Kelce?

  Did me turning around and sitting crisscross applesauce backwards in my stadium seat? Change the outcome of the game?

• 7:49Kylie Kelce?

  We don't know. And that's enough for me to continue on with the delusion. Do you get it? I just, it was, it is so validating that when you're like, I have to do this in a high pressure situation. All of a sudden it's down to a field goal. I turn around.

• 8:09Kylie Kelce?

  Sit backwards in my chair.

• 8:13Kylie Kelce?

  And it gets blocked for the second time in yesterday's game. And run down for a touchdown?

• 8:23Kylie Kelce?

  Guys, and that does it for Places Kylie Has Some Business Being and go birds. Next up, let's get into doom scroll of the week. First up on doom scroll of the week, I've seen a lot of TikToks from older generations sharing their disapproval of the types of dresses they see high school girls wearing for their homecoming dances. And I think TikTok user with Lottie had the perfect response.

• 8:47Speaker 02

  I'll tell you one thing's for sure. Two things for certain. If you guys saw what I wore to homecoming in the year of our Lord 2015, you would be sick.

• 8:53Kylie Kelce?

  Wet seal.

• 8:54Speaker 02

  You would be sick and disgusted. I'm talking Charlotte Russe stiletto heels platform this big, dressed so tight you can't wear underwear. I'm talking short, tight, like hello. I saw so many TikToks being like, the homecoming dresses are crazy. I go to look it up. Girl, did you ever step into a wet seal? Just let the teenage girls be teenage girls.

• 9:18Kylie Kelce?

  Couple things here. She left no crumbs. The fact that she referenced both Charlotte Russe and Wet Seal makes me feel like we were shopping the same mall. Second,

• 9:30Kylie Kelce?

  I, it does crack me up that for some reason, as we get older, I think that people have a tendency of forgetting that they were once them, right? Oh, I can't believe that my 17-year-old child snuck a beer out of our fridge.

• 9:57Kylie Kelce?

  Would you sneak? Tell me right now. Would you sneak? Guys, we can't forget where we came from, okay? And you know where we came from? Wet Seal. Buy one, get one for a penny. Okay, we came from Forever 21. Don't wash it. Do not wash it. Forever 21 should have been called Forever Wear It Once. That's it. That's what it should have been called.

• 10:26Kylie Kelce?

  You could not wash that shit. I, man, Forever 21, may she rest in peace. I don't mean to speak ill of the dead, but I will tell you right now, God rest her skimpy asshole, okay? She had interesting fashion sense, and also the weakest seams you've ever experienced on an article of clothing. So, to be clear, I didn't have homecoming, so I'm out on this.

• 11:04Kylie Kelce?

  Lucky for me, I had to wait until college to wear a Charlotte Russe BodyCon skirt with a tank top tucked into it as smoothly as humanly possible because bodysuits were not a thing and either were cropped tank tops. I said what I said, okay? So you had to fold it and tuck it in. I had to wait until I was 21 years old. To wear those out because I didn't have homecoming in high school. And also, I didn't have a fake ID because I'm a real follower and I had never snuck into a bar.

• 11:46Kylie Kelce?

  And also, I am almost six feet tall, 5'11". I know I've said that so many times.

• 11:55Kylie Kelce?

  But I have to emphasize that here because every single time I left the house in what was a normal article of clothing, in the proper size, my father would say, "Try again." And that is the point to upstairs. He would point up the steps and he would say, "Try again." And I would say, "It's your fault that my legs are this long." And it's not that the article of clothing is too short, it's that my leg in comparison makes the shorts or skirt or dress look too short.

• 12:36Kylie Kelce?

  And I still wasn't making it out of the house in that. TikToker said, "Let teenage girls be teenage girls." I can live by that until my girls are teenage girls and then we'll see if I have a change of heart there. So, don't know. We'll find, maybe we'll find out together. No, we won't. I won't be caught up.

• 12:56Kylie Kelce?

  And lastly, on this week's doom scroll, there's a new way non-football fans are trolling their superfan partners while watching NFL games. And it's fucking hilarious. Queen Emma, the clip please. Yelling random phrases during football to get my boyfriend's reaction.

• 13:12Speaker 01

  Squeeze it, squeeze it.

• 13:18Kylie Kelce?

  Squeeze it is one of the most... The best part about squeeze it is that maybe you could say that it's applicable to holding the ball tighter on a carry for ball security. But squeeze it just sounds ridiculous. This actually has inspired me to come up with some more nonsense phrases that real ones can shout to troll their football fan spouses. Number one, smack it.

• 13:52Kylie Kelce?

  Variants include smack that ball, smack it to the house, smack it in there. This next one is inspired by bop it. So you can really do any of these or a combo. Number two is twist it, pull it, bop it. I feel like this is a nod to the 90s. Let's just enjoy the fact that we were part of the bop it generation.

• 14:17Kylie Kelce?

  It sounds like a good time. Bop it, pull it, twist it. You can literally, you can twist it, twist it, pull it, bop it. You can do a whole combination. That's fun. Feel free to tack on a his ass to any of these. Twist his ass, pull his ass, bop his ass. You know, just one of those. You cannot push his ass because that's actually a valid outburst. And applicable to the birds. Number three, hit him with the worm.

• 14:56Kylie Kelce?

  The only one I really think, I think maybe this might, this might apply to a touchdown celebration. In which case, hit him with the worm. Be outstanding. In any other situation, what? You know, when you should say hit him with the worm, you should say it when it's a bad outcome for your team. That would be fucking hilarious. Like they lose a yard or something, be like, hit him with the worm. Like, what? Attention real ones. Please post a video of yourselves trying these. We want to see it. Okay. So when you're watching football

• 15:38Kylie Kelce?

  this week, feel free to tag us at NGL with Kylie. That's it for doom scroll the week. All right, moving on. Something happened to me yesterday that's given me no choice but to bring back another favorite segment. You know what's fucked up? Hey, you know what's fucked up? I just accidentally picked up a literal turd off my kid's bathroom floor with my bare hand.

• 16:04Kylie Kelce?

  I'm almost embarrassed to say this on the internet. I'm embarrassed to put this out into the world. So let's start from the beginning. We've been deep into foil fun recently. And if you have any idea what foil fun is, then you understand how it is not the tidiest activity. They come with foam stickers. They're black foam stickers that you put on the little board and arrange them. And then you can put these little foils down on them, make them whatever shiny color you want. It's actually very fun. Wyatt is obsessed with it. Everyone else just likes to make a mess. But these black foam stickers then end up getting on everything and everywhere in the house.

• 16:47Kylie Kelce?

  And so Benny and I were headed into the bathroom for a little potty party, if you will. And I looked down on the floor and she said, oh, it's poop. And if anybody knows conversations with children that span the ages of mine, which would be five to two, who are speaking. My five to two age range, they're so into poop. Just, I want to say poop for every other word. An answer to a question is poop. Toilet is also a word that is an answer to anything. Fart, also an answer to anything.

• 17:28Kylie Kelce?

  So really, our potty talk is, it is very exciting right now. So naturally, when Benny points to the thing on the floor and says, it's poop. I thought it's just her being her normal self, labeling things in the house that are not actually poop as poop. Because as I looked down, I thought to myself, oh, it's a freaking sticker. It's another one of the damn foam stickers stuck on the floor. Right? Wrong. I was wrong. I bent down and thinking that it was a sticker stuck to the floor with quite a bit of force,

• 18:10Kylie Kelce?

  I squeezed what I thought was a foam sticker. I raw dogged it. I didn't take a tissue paper. I didn't put a glove on. I thought I was picking up a fucking foam sticker. You know what it was? A tiny turd.

• 18:36Kylie Kelce?

  It was a tiny turd.

• 18:41Kylie Kelce?

  Benny was right.

• 18:45Kylie Kelce?

  It was poop.

• 18:52Kylie Kelce?

  I think you can imagine.

• 18:56Kylie Kelce?

  With a germaphobe like me, I proceeded to have a small, as the kids would call it, crash out.

• 19:09Kylie Kelce?

  And I washed the skin off of my hands. Now, we got to the bottom of whose turd it was. And I'm not pointing any fingers, but

• 19:24Kylie Kelce?

  the call was coming from inside the bathroom. If you catch my drift. And it was correctly identified by the culprit. Since we're already on this lovely subject of potty talk, a lot of you tagged me in a clip from the other podcasts where my husband and brother in law recently talked about potty training. The clip, please, Queen Emma.

• 19:47Speaker 03

  With Wyatt, she was the first one that you actually had to like proactively get her to go on the potty. And the way we potty trainers, you can see him just starting to like, it ain't like hard to spot like she goes off into the corner and you just see your face starting to go like,

• 20:06Speaker 03

  do you need to poop right now, why? And then you're like, hey, let's go up on the potty. Once they get to a certain age, you're like, hey, let's go up on the potty.

• 20:13Kylie Kelce?

  The top comment was, everything about this answer tells me Kylie took the lead on potty training. Guys, I can truly say, first of all, in reference to my husband's explanation, no notes, not a single fucking note. He nailed that. There was not a single lie told. The other thing is,

• 20:33Kylie Kelce?

  I will.

• 20:35Kylie Kelce?

  I'm not gonna lie. Potty training, as I think most people know, is a team effort. I don't think there was ever like a coaching up moment where I was like, all right, Jason, this is what we're gonna do. We didn't huddle up about potty training. It's as clear as Jason said, it was just that you could tell when they go to hide behind a chair, that the time is upon us. And then you just gotta scoop them up before that happens. And that is where it becomes a team effort. Whoever's in the room and catches the child sneak behind a chair, that's the person who's like, grab them. And then you gotta run. It's a, it is a, they're going because they're ready.

• 21:20Kylie Kelce?

  Right? They're going behind the chair because they're ready, or they're going into the corner in the other room because they're ready. So you have to run. So it's kind of like a little athletic event that it's like scoop the kid, get them upstairs, pants them, and get them on the potty as quick as possible. Team effort. That's it for You Know What's Fucked Up? Caleb Hearon is coming up, but first, Peppa Pig. As the real ones know, my love language isn't necessarily receiving gifts, but you know whose is? All of my children. Yes, Wyatt, Ellie, Benny, and I'm sure soon Finn, love presents for any and all occasions. Wyatt is already talking about her birthday and we are

• 22:02Kylie Kelce?

  two weeks out from it. She tried to call it her birthday month and I had to explain that birthday actually contains the timeline within it. Well, luckily, they don't have to wait until their birthday or holidays because I've got a bunch of new Peppa Pig toys here. I know they're going to be so excited about. Joining me on set today, we have the brand new Oinks and Snuggles Eevee doll. In honor of Mummy Pig welcoming the new baby Eevee. And my girls love a baby doll. They love them so much. I would say right now Benny is the one who loves baby dolls the most. So she is gonna be all over baby Eevee. Oinks and Snuggles Eevee also has 20 sound effects your kids can activate. Whether it's

• 22:44Kylie Kelce?

  a birthday, a special treat, or a holiday surprise, your little Peppa Pig fan will be thrilled with the Oinks and Snuggles Eevee doll, available exclusively at Walmart. Shop online and in stores near you. He's the hilarious actor, writer and comedian you know from his hit podcast, So True, his TikTok videos that have achieved so funny, you'll pee your pants laughing status in my book, and now his brand new debut stand-up special, Model Comedian, streaming now on HBO. Caleb Hearon, welcome to Not Gonna Lie.

• 23:15Speaker 04

  Hi, I'm so excited to be here.

• 23:17Kylie Kelce?

  I am so excited to have you because I was introduced to you via TikTok and clips from your podcast, So True. I think that your wit and intelligence and speed are all just put on display there, and it is so satisfying to watch.

• 23:43Speaker 04

  Thanks, dude.

• 23:43Kylie Kelce?

  Not to mention your friendship with Drew Afoalo, who I had the pleasure of speaking to on Not Gonna Lie, Brittany Broski, like, watching you guys riff off of each other is one of the funniest things I've ever watched.

• 23:58Speaker 04

  They're the best and funniest and smartest. If I've, if I've ever said anything funny, it is, there's at least a 60% chance it's because of something that happened in, in our friendship, or, like, I, I just think they're, I think they're so funny, and when we get together, it's like, my favorite thing. I also have to tell you that, you know, there are these random things that happen that, like, I've been doing comedy for a long time, and there'll be little milestone type things that, you know, people from your past will reach out about, like, someone from high school or whatever, and it's, it's sweet. I have never in my life, no, no, um, show, no accomplishment, no anything, never gotten so much outreach as when you shouted me out on your show, when, when the iHeart thing happened and you're like, "Oh, Caleb's show is up too," um, and said that you liked

• 24:41Speaker 04

  the show. I have never in my life got more people that I haven't spoken to in years texting me and going-

• 24:46Kylie Kelce?

  I'm so sorry.

• 24:47Speaker 04

  Kylie knows who you are. No, it was so, it's just always the funniest, I'm like, I'm like, I love Kylie too, but damn, that, they are coming out of the woodworks. They love you.

• 24:58Kylie Kelce?

  That's very sweet. Uh, I, I said it then and I fucking meant it, okay?

• 25:07Kylie Kelce?

  The best part is, is that when I, when we were talking about our rundown that day, I was like, why, why, why? So vote for Kayla.

• 25:20Speaker 04

  No, same. I'm like, I mean, I think, you know, to your, like earlier, you were joking about, and I don't know if this makes it into the episode or not, but you were joking about being like unprofessional professionals and being like, we're just kind of flying by the seat of our pants. And I think, I know that that's what people really respond to about you and why you do deserve to win awards, that one and others. People really feel like you are their friend because you're a regular, nice person who's like, I just think that there are so many great things about you and I am a fan. And I think that the biggest one and why you won that award and will probably win a whole bunch more is because people really see you and they go, oh, if, that's how I would do it if I was in that position. It feels very human, the way that you're handling all of this.

• 26:00Kylie Kelce?

  Yep. I mean, I, I appreciate that. I appreciate those kind words. I just truly think that if that is what people are attached to, I, I mean, that's all I've got. I keep, like, I've met people in person who are like, I just love how like, real you are. And I'm like, that's all I've got. I don't know how to be anybody else. I'm just gonna, I'm gonna be me. So you either like it or you don't. But if you don't, suck my ass.

• 26:29Speaker 04

  Leave it in, leave it in, leave it in.

• 26:33Kylie Kelce?

  It's, it's, yeah, it's, I mean, it's, you know, from podcasting, it's like you, week to week, you're like, this is what I'm gonna say and this is my opinion. And like, people either latch on or they don't. And they either get your humor or they don't. But I, I mean, back to you, because I really think that you are one of the funniest people on the internet, specifically. I really, I could not watch your...

• 27:03Kylie Kelce?

  Clips specifically and also with Drew and Brittany Broski, I could not watch your clips while I was pregnant because my bladder control couldn't handle it. I'm not exaggerating. There were times where I would have to like scroll away from it to like breathe and then scroll back and be like, okay, give it to me again. It is you, the way you guys go back and forth with each other, the banter you have, it is, I mean, I'm full fangirl, like aggressively fangirl.

• 27:32Speaker 04

  Thanks dude.

• 27:33Kylie Kelce?

  And it's, and it's, I love that it comes from like a place, a place of positivity. Like you guys will like poke fun and like joke around, but ultimately it's like comes from a place of positivity and like being good people and wanting good for people.

• 27:52Speaker 04

  I think it's just not that deep. I think nothing should be that serious. I feel like we've a whole bunch of us, we, the collective royal, we, all of us that we're all, the life we're all participating in capital L. So many of us have gotten so serious and so like there's these like sacred subjects and sacred topics and sacred feelings that no one's supposed to, I just am like, everybody relax. Like let's calm down. This is supposed to be fun. We only get to do this once. Like, let's have a fucking nice time. Let's, let's laugh at how ridiculous this all is. It's insane that we're like spinning on a rock in space. That's fucking crazy. We made up all these rules about, you just stop and think sometimes about everything we made up for ourselves to exist in every day. And you're like, this is stupid. We should be making fun and laughing. This is crazy.

• 28:36Kylie Kelce?

  Yes. Now, I have so many things I want to ask you about your new standup special, but first of all, congratulations.

• 28:42Speaker 04

  Thanks dude. Thank you.

• 28:44Kylie Kelce?

  Once again, it's Model Comedian. It's streaming now on HBO and HBO Max. Now, one of the things that you discuss in your special is the name of the special, Model Comedian. And

• 29:00Kylie Kelce?

  We're gonna, if you're okay with it, show the clip.

• 29:03Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 29:04Kylie Kelce?

  Amazing. Queen Emma, roll the clip, please.

• 29:06Speaker 04

  I'm not even so mad anymore at people who are mean to me on the internet. Now I've kind of turned my ire. I'm more mad at like when my fans try to defend me and they're bad at it. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, someone commented on a video of mine and he was like, "I don't get the hype with this guy. He's ugly as fuck." And I read that and I was like, "Shout out," you know? And I was like, "Let's just let it be," you know? And then I saw one of my fans respond to him and say, "Uh, he's a comedian, not a model."

• 29:38Speaker 04

  Hey. Hey, what? No! Fuck. Now, get to my office, now.

• 29:46Kylie Kelce?

  Now, I say I don't look at the comments, but occasionally I do take a peek. What is... I know you said you haven't looked that much. Is there one that sticks out? One that...

• 29:58Speaker 04

  On the special.

• 29:59Kylie Kelce?

  Is staying with you. Yes, on the special.

• 30:02Speaker 04

  Oh, God. I really, I really have not looked that much. I'm trying to, uh, get a better relationship with that. I think I have a pretty good one, but I'm trying to get even better at it. There was one that made me laugh that was, uh, on one of HBO's TikToks that I saw from some girl. It was like all lowercase and it was like, "Are we sure he's not Filipino? He looks just like my uncle." Who is Filipino? And I was like, "Incredible. Thank you. Uh, I love that." I just love the idea of their Filipino investigating me in the comments. And I would love, I would love to be Filipino. It's just not my truth at this moment. But it really cracked me up, the idea that like, maybe we're hiding it.

• 30:45Kylie Kelce?

  Is there a comment overall that has been your favorite? Throughout your career, throughout TikTok, your comedy, all of it? Is there, is there a comment that you haven't shared, maybe, that really, it still sits with you?

• 31:01Speaker 04

  A comment that still sits with me? I, there was...

• 31:06Speaker 04

  There was a guy, I don't know if I've ever talked about this, but I randomly do have a lot of like Republican, kind of conservative fans, which cracks me up because I am making fun of them all the time. Now, I do make fun of everybody, but I'm just like specifically, I'm so ideologically opposed. Yeah. But I did, I don't know, I didn't look into the profile. So I don't know if this was like, one of my gay fans being silly, or if this was genuine. But someone commented once on, there was some viral video of me on someone else's podcast or something. And they commented, they said, I'm homophobic, but this guy is funny.

• 31:49Speaker 04

  And I absolutely love that so much. That is one of my favorite things.

• 31:56Kylie Kelce?

  That's wildly self-aware, first of all.

• 31:58Speaker 04

  It's all, it's just like, that is such a huge compliment because a big part of my thing is that I'm a gay guy. So like, you really have to be rocking with the material to break through that.

• 32:09Kylie Kelce?

  Look at you just, I mean, you're breaking down barriers is what you're doing. That's what that is. That's busting down barriers. That's incredible.

• 32:18Speaker 04

  Some guy did message, I don't know if I, if I have it to read it to you directly. Some guy did message me right after the special came out, like the night after and said, I am a straight, white male, Navy veteran, Catholic, like listed all these things. And he was like, and I just saw your HBO special and I'm a fan. And I was like, okay.

• 32:41Speaker 04

  I was like, hey, I don't think you'll probably be hanging around for long, but I love that we got there for a moment. And what a beautiful window we shared together in my DMs.

• 32:52Speaker 04

  Rock on, brother.

• 32:54Kylie Kelce?

  Now, do you find that you set the boundary of not reading comments? Does that include DMs?

• 33:01Speaker 04

  I read the DMs probably more often than I read the comments because I am interested in. I'm interested in how people behave when they think no one's perceiving like it is. It is very sociologically interesting to me.

• 33:15Speaker 04

  When people behave badly in the public comment section, I'm like, oh, you're not a real hater. You are, uh, have some kind of, uh, embarrassment kink and you're hoping that I'll like go off on you and give you

• 33:27Kylie Kelce?

  You're just an instigator, like you're trying to pull either shit from you or shit from the rest of the people commenting.

• 33:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, you're lonely and you'd like someone to look at you and that's actually quite sad and not very fun. But when you DM me some hateful shit, you're really about that. Like this is for the love of the game. Like you really don't like me.

• 33:44Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 33:45Speaker 04

  So when I stumble across one of those, I find it sociologically interesting, but mostly my DM requests are lesbians. Just responding like, go girl.

• 33:56Speaker 04

  It's really nothing. It's usually pretty fun in there. So.

• 33:59Kylie Kelce?

  I don't read comments very often. I don't, I don't want to fill my free time with that. And so I don't read comments often, but every so often I hit like maybe 10 DMs. And I'm like, ah, I'm good for a while. That's, that was not that fun.

• 34:21Speaker 04

  I can't imagine your DMs because you have so many unique axes. There's all these men that are fans of your husband and your brother-in-law. And then there's all these people that are fans of, you know, uh, Taylor, who like, I'm sure the DMs are crazy. And then on just like a baseline, kind of beneath all of that, you're a woman on the internet with a platform. So that is already psycho. I kind of can't imagine the firestorm that's going off in your DMs, actually.

• 34:47Kylie Kelce?

  If you ever want a good, just, uh, just sit down and sort of veg in it. I'll let you log into my Instagram. You can have.

• 34:57Speaker 04

  I do. Yeah, I'll hit you up.

• 34:59Kylie Kelce?

  Now, leading in to this special, I'm assuming that you toured all over the country. I've asked every touring comedian and musician this question when I've had them on. So I'm about to do it again. Where does Philly rank in your favorite places to perform?

• 35:15Speaker 04

  I actually owe Philly an apology, and I'm really glad you're bringing this up because, and you didn't tell me you were gonna ask this, but I am so glad that it's coming up because Philly is genuinely one of my favorite places to tour, and I love doing shows there.

• 35:29Kylie Kelce?

  Are you just saying this because it's me? Because the next part of that was that I will take it personally?

• 35:34Speaker 04

  No, no, it's not just because it's you. I genuinely, and I actually have a funny Philly story that I'll tell you, but I love, I love performing in Philly. The, the shows there are always fantastic. The audiences are incredible. There's a real like good comedy scene there. So like a sensibility and an understanding of like how to behave at shows. I was saving Philly. I didn't put Philly on my last, my So True live tour because I was saving those ticket sales to go to Philly and do some test shows of the hour before I recorded this special. That was the, I haven't said this anywhere, but Philly was pissed at me. They're in my DMs, they're in my comments. They're like, is this about the Super Bowl? I'm like, no, they're livid with me. And I'm like, I can't tell you because the shows aren't confirmed.

• 36:18Speaker 04

  And then I ended up not being able to make it work in my schedule to go to Philly and do the test shows either. So I ended up skipping Philly, much to my own sadness on a whole tour cycle. That is my apology to Philly, and I'm gonna do something really big in Philly next time I go on tour. My funny Philly story is that my friend John is from Philadelphia. He's a huge Eagles fan. Shout out, John. And his parents came to my most, yeah, my most recent show in Philly, like a year and a half ago. And his parents are lovely, incredible, wonderful human beings who I adore. I've met them multiple times. And afterwards, I'm chit chatting with his mom and his dad's like, I was, I had, was, there was a guy who came to the show that I was gonna hook up with after the show.

• 37:01Speaker 04

  He was like a guy that I hook up with in Philly. Whatever, it's like that sometimes. No one worry about it. And I had like, the guy had come over and they had been, he walked away to get a drink or something like, who's that? And I was like, oh, that's a guy I'm gonna hook up with later. But right now, we're chit chatting, you know? And his dad, my buddy's dad has like, walked away. And I'm like, where's, where's your dad? And he goes, oh, he's leaving. And so I ran after him and I was like, you're gonna leave without saying goodbye to me? No hug? And he goes, he turns around and I can't do a Philly dad accent, but he go, he's like, an Italian guy, he's like, I thought you were gonna get some ass.

• 37:38Speaker 04

  And I was like, no, I'm hanging out with you guys right now. But that was, that's what my favorite-

• 37:43Kylie Kelce?

  The ass will come, but then right now, I'm talking to you.

• 37:46Speaker 04

  Everybody's gonna get laid. Everybody's gonna get laid. Don't worry about that. Right now, it's family time.

• 37:54Speaker 04

  But it really cracked me up.

• 37:55Kylie Kelce?

  How supportive. We love a supportive king.

• 37:59Speaker 04

  And being like, oh, if you're trying to get laid, I'll leave. Like, that's, that-

• 38:02Kylie Kelce?

  Let me excuse myself.

• 38:04Speaker 04

  That's beautiful, but come back here.

• 38:06Kylie Kelce?

  You just have to come and, and impart your comedy on us. We just need you to drop it. Right in Philadelphia, where it belongs.

• 38:15Speaker 04

  I'm in such a tough place with Philly right now, because obviously the Chiefs and Eagles of it all, and I'm such a, a massive lifelong Chiefs fan. I mean, I was there when it was like, pre Andy, pre Travis, like, it was when things were-

• 38:27Kylie Kelce?

  It wasn't that fun. Yeah.

• 38:28Speaker 04

  It was not fun. And my problem with Philly right now is that, like, obviously, the Eagles are like, fucking untouchable, but so goddamn likeable. Jalen Hurts is like, just like, the most likeable. I, I'm really kinda mad. I keep trying to find angles to, to get the rivalry interesting, and I've got nothing on Jalen Hurts. And I'm just like, I'm kind of sick of it. I about had it. It's making it really hard to have a proper feud, you know?

• 38:57Kylie Kelce?

  I do appreciate so much that your Chiefs fandom spills into your relationship with the Philly, like, the city of Philadelphia as a whole. I respect that on a level I can't even explain.

• 39:12Speaker 04

  I got booed. I brought up the Chiefs onstage at my last Philly show and they booed me.

• 39:17Kylie Kelce?

  And doesn't that feel like, feel like a warm hug?

• 39:19Speaker 04

  It does. It felt like family. I was like, I love that about y'all.

• 39:22Kylie Kelce?

  Right? I mean, we do it to them to, if they were not doing as well as they are right now, we'd be booing them too. It's love. It's all love.

• 39:33Speaker 04

  And I do feel it.

• 39:34Kylie Kelce?

  With the Kansas City Chiefs. Do you have- A favorite player. I'm not expect, I'm not, you don't have to say my brother at all.

• 39:45Speaker 04

  I, my, my dad's favorite player was Derrick Thomas. And so he's always been kind of up there for me. My favorite player right now is probably, probably Isaiah Pacheco. I'm really, I just love him. I love his energy. I love his vibe.

• 40:04Speaker 04

  Probably, yeah, probably Isaiah, but Travis, shout out to Travis. I know that, I know that you don't want me to say him, but of course.

• 40:11Kylie Kelce?

  I don't want you to say him if it's not him. Obviously he is my favorite chief forever and always. But I don't want you to say him just because you think that's what I want to hear.

• 40:22Speaker 04

  No, I do love Travis.

• 40:23Kylie Kelce?

  It is what I want to hear and that's the wrong answer.

• 40:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:28Kylie Kelce?

  And now we're.

• 40:29Speaker 04

  I wanted to hear it. And now we're actually beefing for two reasons.

• 40:33Speaker 04

  No, I, one thing I love about all the, the guys on the team right now is how much they, and Travis is a big part of this. How much they show up for the city, like they, they're always at the charity events. They're always doing all of the, the stuff around town. And I feel like that, the cool part about football to me and what I'm always trying to tell people who don't give a shit about football, which is a lot of people in my life. I'm like, it's, it's when it's, when it's going well, it's so good for the whole city. It's like, things happen because people are excited about the team. And I think that's the, the thing I love the most about it.

• 41:02Kylie Kelce?

  That's honestly, Travis has given us the best glimpse into Kansas City because of the things that he gets involved in there. And just, I mean, in terms of like charitable stuff, he introduced us to something that he holds really near and dear to his heart, which is Operation Breakthrough. And I've actually gotten a chance to go and visit and to see projects that they're working on. And they're actually working on one for Jason right now. It's one of the coolest places I've ever visited. The people there are incredible. But those are like, that's how Travis, that's how I've learned about Kansas City through Travis's lens. And it really is football, charitable efforts, things that he feels strongly about.

• 41:47Kylie Kelce?

  And then delicious barbecue. And I am so down for all of it.

• 41:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's a, it's a really awesome town. I really, I love it here so much and I love anybody who loves it and Operation Breakthrough is incredible and like Travis and a lot of those guys are at, they do stuff for like Big Slick every year with Sedakis and Paul Rudd and all those guys and Heidi Gardner. And I, yeah, I just think it's, I think it's really cool and I think it's good for a city to have something to be excited about.

• 42:13Kylie Kelce?

  Yes. Now, not to bring up any hard topics now that we're mending these broken spots.

• 42:22Kylie Kelce?

  Couple of weeks ago, the Chiefs and Eagles played.

• 42:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:27Kylie Kelce?

  Anything, any thoughts about that?

• 42:30Speaker 04

  In my opinion, no they didn't.

• 42:35Speaker 04

  As far as I'm concerned, that didn't happen.

• 42:39Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah. What I will say, I will say this.

• 42:45Kylie Kelce?

  The, one of the times that the Eagles and Chiefs played in regular season was the year that the Eagles won the Super Bowl and that year, the Chiefs won the regular season game.

• 43:00Speaker 04

  Right.

• 43:04Speaker 04

  Who knows what that means and here's what

• 43:06Kylie Kelce?

  So maybe.

• 43:07Speaker 04

  Here's what I can contribute.

• 43:09Kylie Kelce?

  Okay.

• 43:09Speaker 04

  I think that the NFL should have a broadcast option. Shouldn't be the main broadcast. I don't want to mess with the main product. You guys do your thing. There should be a broadcast option that is a panel of three people. One of them is a dyed-in-the-wool ex-NFL, like classic commentator, like exactly what you'd expect. One is a gay guy who knows ball and one is a third person who knows nothing about the game, the teams, or anything that's going on. And that

• 43:41Kylie Kelce?

  That can ask questions.

• 43:42Speaker 04

  Yes. And that, and that person's job is to go like, wait, why, when they throw down the yellow thing, what is that? You know, and then it's, so it's a spectrum of experiences and knowledge. I think this broadcast would completely revolutionize the watching experience.

• 43:57Kylie Kelce?

  I love that so much.

• 43:58Speaker 04

  I think it'd be cool.

• 44:00Kylie Kelce?

  Because I do think there are a bunch of spaces where people have tried to capture the idea of, let me explain football. Let me help you get involved. Let me help you understand.

• 44:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:10Kylie Kelce?

  But watching it live and doing it simultaneously would be the best way to consume that.

• 44:17Speaker 04

  Yeah. And you

• 44:18Kylie Kelce?

  I'm so into this.

• 44:19Speaker 04

  You need someone to explain it. Like I, my personal mission in life has, has been to get girls and gays into football, the ones who don't care. And I have found so many fun ways to do it. One is talking about how hot some of the players are. That gets some people in. But the bigger one is when you, when you can explain it, kind of like Real Housewives, when you're like, okay, the reason that the Packers playing the Cowboys is so interesting this week is because Micah Parsons and the Cowboys just went through a huge breakup. And now he's with someone new and now he's going out and he knows his ex is going to be there with his new girl, you know, like

• 44:48Kylie Kelce?

  And he's got to show up.

• 44:50Speaker 04

  He has to show out. Like this is, you have to, you know what that's like. So explaining the drama of the league, because there is so much drama all the time. This is the stuff we need to be talking about.

• 44:58Kylie Kelce?

  Honestly, the idea of doing it during a broadcast is chef's kiss. I don't think there's anything that could, it just sounds, it sounds perfect. And I do think that that is exactly what you're saying about the drama. It is, and it runs deep. The tea is piping hot and they don't even know.

• 45:18Speaker 04

  The tea is piping hot. Who, who had the chance to draft who and didn't? How are they doing now? Where do they play? Who used to play here, but doesn't anymore? It's all

• 45:27Kylie Kelce?

  I mean, Baker Mayfield alone, you could get into like, was in Cleveland, not in Cleveland. You know what I mean? Like we're like, what was that breakup like? And then how is he doing with, like, you know what I mean? I just, how are you thriving in your next relationship? I like this.

• 45:44Speaker 04

  It's really interesting, right? Or like, uh, Russell Wilson just got benched for Jackson Dart to start. This is like, regardless of how you feel about it, this is a deeply interesting, like human story. And when you're watching the game through that lens, it's actually so much more nuanced and interesting than like, I like when guys hit each other. It's like, there's actually, I think even the like, the most bro-iest, like manly straight guys who love football, whether they know it or admit it, they, they also love the drama. It's part of it for them.

• 46:13Kylie Kelce?

  Absolutely. They've just figured out how to frame it in a way where like they're, they're like, it's masculine. It's like, no, he did just break up with the owners of the Cleveland Browns.

• 46:22Speaker 04

  It's Real Housewives. Yeah. This is your Real Housewives. Yeah.

• 46:25Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, no. And like the drama in the locker room that occasionally leaks and you're like, No one's going to talk about how like a quarterback and the receivers don't get along, but he's supposed to throw to them on a weekly basis and they're supposed to do it together as a team. Like, what are we talking about?

• 46:40Speaker 04

  This is good. This is group dynamics. This is drama. This is good stuff. So we need, I think we need a broadcast that delves into all of this.

• 46:47Kylie Kelce?

  I really like that.

• 46:49Speaker 04

  NFL.

• 46:49Kylie Kelce?

  I like that a lot.

• 46:51Speaker 04

  Hit us up. We've got ideas.

• 46:54Kylie Kelce?

  Caleb, I know people.

• 46:56Speaker 04

  And you know what? I believe you. I believe that you know people.

• 47:01Kylie Kelce?

  Let's see what we can do.

• 47:02Speaker 04

  Let's go. Let's cook something.

• 47:03Kylie Kelce?

  We do have a tiny habit of manifesting here. So NFL, hey.

• 47:11Speaker 04

  I'm putting it out. NFL, hey.

• 47:13Kylie Kelce?

  Hey, we just got a quick, you want to pop on a zoom real quick?

• 47:18Speaker 04

  The Caleb and Kylie sweatpants on the couch with like,

• 47:22Kylie Kelce?

  Wait.

• 47:23Speaker 04

  With like appetizers just being like, okay, so.

• 47:27Kylie Kelce?

  Not us being their worst fucking nightmare because the most unprofessional professionals coming in and just being like, hello. If you're an NGL fan or you live in a Peppa Pig household, or both, which I'm sure is the case for some of the real ones, chances are you know baby Evie has arrived. But did you know there's brand new Peppa Pig toys you can purchase for your own babies? And if your babies are anything like mine and love playing dress up, they're going to love the new Peppa Pig Dress Up Wardrobe Playset. This is perfect for our household because our girls love to dress themselves up all day, every day. If I let them wear 72 outfits

• 48:07Kylie Kelce?

  a day, they would do it. But for laundry purposes, no. So maybe this will scratch the itch for them. Because little kids who love fashion dolls will love this adorable Peppa Pig Playset. Kids can mix and match accessories like fairy wings, wands, a tutu, and more. Use the stickers to decorate the Peppa figure and her clothes. The girls.

• 48:30Kylie Kelce?

  We'll absolutely love to design things specifically with stickers because they love to put random stickers anywhere in the house. I could tell you right now, on the way up the stairs in our house, there's one random mermaid sticker right on the wall. You can shop the Peppa Pig Dress Up Wardrobe Playset and all the other new Peppa Pig toys now at Walmart, online or in stores near you. This football season, whether you're buying tickets, booking travel, or shopping for team gear, protect your pocket with Visa. Tapping to pay without checking which card? Not a pro move. Tapping to pay with Visa? That's a pro move. Visa runs more than 500 security checks to help identify fraud before transactions are approved. So you can focus your defensive energy on other things.

• 49:15Kylie Kelce?

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• 49:25Speaker 01

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• 49:54Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, now I'd love to switch gears here and do a segment with you. I like to call Doom Scroll the Week.

• 49:59Speaker 04

  Cool.

• 49:59Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, the segment is basically that I like to doom scroll. It's how I turn my brain off. Um, and I feel like you're probably going to be very good at breaking down some of these clips.

• 50:11Speaker 04

  Great.

• 50:12Kylie Kelce?

  This is Doom Scroll Caleb Edition. This is a snippet from an all-time classic where you tell the story of Cooper and the cologne.

• 50:19Speaker 04

  Cooper always got compliments on smelling really good. I was like, okay, I know how I can be really popular is if I just figure out what cologne Cooper wears. And he'll probably tell me because he was so cool to me about the pants.

• 50:28Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, he was so chill about my moose snuggle. He was so chill about it.

• 50:32Speaker 04

  That's fucking Ohana.

• 50:35Speaker 04

  That's fucking familia right there. That's gang, that's fam. That's gang, that's fam. And so I said, Cooper, what cologne do you wear? And he said, oh, I don't, it's just like, I don't know. My mom gets it for me. And I, I go, oh yeah, but like, what is? Every time I get a chance, being like, Cooper, do you even know like what the bottle looks like?

• 50:52Speaker 04

  I'm being so persistent because I finally I go, I need to know what cologne you wear. And he goes, if I tell you, will you just stop talking to me? And I, and I go, and I go, and I go, yeah.

• 51:03Kylie Kelce?

  Now, first of all, this clip has 13.5 million views.

• 51:08Speaker 04

  Crazy.

• 51:09Kylie Kelce?

  Have you heard from Cooper?

• 51:12Speaker 04

  You know, it's so funny. This, this story has taken, it was a throwaway story on the show. It's not like material that I planned or something. It just kind of came up and it has taken on a life of its own. To an extent where like every one of my comment sections is like, what color is the box, Coop? And I'm like, oh my God, like it really will never die, the story. But I will say the, he's not, he's not reached out. I don't know where he is in the world. Shout out to him.

• 51:37Speaker 04

  But the, I, there's not enough appreciation is as much as that clip is watched and talked about and beloved. There's not enough appreciation for the fact that the true comedy in that clip comes from Drew and Brittany. They are the, like, they are teeing everything up. They are making the bit move. They are, there is no, there's nothing funny or watchable or interesting about that clip. If it's not for how brilliant and funny those two are. And I sometimes get annoyed that I'm like, it's not, it's, people like keep praise on me or try to like pit us against each other, but I'm like, they are the engine that makes that actually funny.

• 52:15Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, I, that, this is one of the clips that I could not watch pregnant.

• 52:20Speaker 04

  They're so funny. They're so funny, dude.

• 52:22Kylie Kelce?

  It's the laughter in the background. It's as if you're like listening in on like a friend's story and you're laughing at like their sad. Like, like you're, you're like, you're almost like commiserating with them in your laughter of like, God, that must've really sucked in hindsight. But in that moment, you were like, I, tell me the fucking cologne.

• 52:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:42Kylie Kelce?

  Tell me what it is. Um.

• 52:44Speaker 04

  Middle school is so brutal dude, and you just wanna, oh, you wanna fit into, and none of your kids are there yet, are they?

• 52:51Kylie Kelce?

  No, good God, no.

• 52:52Speaker 04

  That's what I thought. They're all, they're all young, but the, it's just, middle school is such a like, you just do anything. Cause you also have started to understand, by the way, and part of what that story is about really is like, you've started to understand social capital and you've started to understand that certain people have it and certain people don't, and that they get it through various things, right? And you don't know that that's what it is, cause you're a child, but.

• 53:13Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 53:13Speaker 04

  It's a, yeah, you just, I remember being that age and how badly you felt like anything could change or ruin your life on a dime. Like every little thing felt like it was the consequences of the whole world crashing down on you.

• 53:25Kylie Kelce?

  Yep.

• 53:26Speaker 04

  And that's an inherently funny place to be, because when the stakes are high for somebody who doesn't know how silly their thing is, that's like, it's a comedy 101. It's so funny.

• 53:34Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, it, middle school's trash. And if you can like, get a laugh out of that much pain.

• 53:41Speaker 04

  God bless. It's a tough time.

• 53:44Kylie Kelce?

  It is, it is crazy how much transition happens. And I don't know how your schools are structured out there, but our middle school is three, was three years when I was in it. And it was, it felt like it was the three shittiest years. It was like, how did we cap, how did we capsule this? And then put us all in a school together and like, let's fucking see what happens.

• 54:04Speaker 04

  A unique hell of like, yeah, Lord of the Flies.

• 54:07Kylie Kelce?

  It was ridiculous.

• 54:09Speaker 04

  It's wild. It's wild.

• 54:10Kylie Kelce?

  Okay. Our other clip for Caleb Doom scroll. You've had your mom on your show a couple of times. I love this clip in particular. Queen Emma.

• 54:19Speaker 04

  You think about me all the time.

• 54:22Speaker 05

  I, well, you're a part of me.

• 54:24Speaker 04

  See, but that's a crazy thing to say to someone. I'm a part of you.

• 54:28Speaker 05

  You are a part of me.

• 54:29Speaker 04

  And I like that you feel that way. You're a great mom, but I do.

• 54:31Speaker 05

  Do you know that cells actually cross back and forth from a child to a mother when they're in the womb?

• 54:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, but that happened so long ago for us.

• 54:38Speaker 05

  They say that the cells stay in there, but even after you have the child, you still have some of their cells inside of you. And I think that's why moms are so good to their children and their children break their hearts, because they don't have any cells from the mom and the mother.

• 54:51Speaker 04

  So you think that there's cells from me and you, you and me?

• 54:54Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 54:55Speaker 04

  And you think that's why you can't stop texting me?

• 55:00Speaker 04

  Dude, she's the funniest.

• 55:03Kylie Kelce?

  Coming from someone who admittedly calls their mom multiple times a day.

• 55:10Kylie Kelce?

  I don't, I don't, I mean, do you have any advice for me? Cause I feel like you're trying to create a degree of separation in that clip.

• 55:18Speaker 04

  My mom, no, I'm a total, look, I even have the tattoo to prove it. I'm a total mama's boy.

• 55:23Speaker 04

  I love her down. She's the funniest person I have ever met in my whole life. My mom is the coolest, best. I, it's funny, cause some people, I, that one, the clips of my mom all kind of get a bunch of attention because she, how charming she is. But some people did get mad at that episode, uh, that they're like, oh, he's being so mean to her. And I'm like, oh no, we're, we're friends and we're playing. Like, we're kidding, I love that she texts me all the time. I was at, I was at her house last night, actually. I went over there for dinner. Yeah, she's the coolest and I don't actually want separation from her, but she does text like such a mom, like it really is like, if I don't text back for one hour, I'm a full grown adult with like a job that happens all the time.

• 56:07Speaker 04

  If I don't text back for an hour, hi, um, just wondering if you're upset with me or if everything's okay, shit like that where I'm like, girl, you gotta, you gotta get a grip.

• 56:21Kylie Kelce?

  It feels a little, um, it feels a little Cooper-y.

• 56:26Speaker 04

  By the way, now where do we think I got it from? I can't imagine being a parent, dude. It must be, I can't imagine how much she actually is exercising restraint. I feel like if I created a human being from my body, I would be every minute of the day, like, why isn't it talking to me?

• 56:44Kylie Kelce?

  Now, the last thing I'd love to talk to you a little more about is your acting career, where you are officially going to be in The Devil Wears Prada 2.

• 56:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:53Kylie Kelce?

  How fucking cool is that?

• 56:55Speaker 04

  That's really crazy. I can't believe they're doing that. I mean, that's really nuts. I'm like, what are y'all thinking? Um, I, yeah, I actually wrapped it already. Um, so my, my scenes are done. And it was like the coolest, most surreal. I mean, I watched the original Devil Wears Prada as like a closeted gay kid in Missouri when I was like 11 years old, you know? And it meant so much to me. Yeah. Being a part of the new one is just crazy cool. And all those, um, people who worked on the original, a lot of them are back. The, the writer, the director, the cast, like the costume people, like so many of the original people, and they're all just the most generous, lovely people. So it was a really cool one to do.

• 57:33Kylie Kelce?

  Now, were you starstruck in meeting the cast?

• 57:37Speaker 04

  You know, not real, I don't, not really, but I will say, uh, it was cool and it was, it was, um, more than being starstruck about like, oh, Meryl Streep is here. It was more like, oh, I have to act. That was the thing that I was like, it's not really meeting them as a human being. It was more like, oh, acting in front of Meryl Streep. So would anyone like to just kill me instead? I mean, like, that's so like, what are you talking about? Like, I was so, uh, cognizant of my-

• 58:06Kylie Kelce?

  The pressure.

• 58:08Speaker 04

  Performance and abilities in a way that I'm not normally. Normally at work, I'm just very like, I'm very fucking good at this. I know what I'm doing. I was hired for a reason. And, and especially when it's comedy, I'm like, there's no one that could, could tell me anything about a comedic performance that would make me feel anything other than like, either that was constructive or they're crazy. Like, no one could make me feel like I don't at least have a take. Um, but acting in front of such legends, Anne Hathaway too, I mean, most of, yeah, I, it really is crazy.

• 58:36Kylie Kelce?

  Now, what is it, there's been, uh, photos from the set in New York and all that. What does it feel like to be involved in something that people are so excited about?

• 58:46Speaker 04

  Well, it's really funny because all the gay publications are going nuts with like Caleb Heron stars in Devil Wears Prada too. And I'm like, we need to walk back the word stars very quickly. Cause I'm not starring in it, baby. I am long on that call sheet. Um, but it's really cool and really neat. And it's so funny that it's, it's another one of those things that, uh, people reach out about a lot, that it's like a bunch of people who, uh, haven't, you know, maybe kept up with what I'm up to or whatever from home or anything, that they're like, oh, this is crazy. And I agree with them. So it feels really nuts.

• 59:20Kylie Kelce?

  Now, I just asked Regina Hall the same question about Girls Trip and Scary Movie sequels. She gave me absolutely nothing. So Caleb, I'm hoping that you can give me a little something. Is there anything you can tell us about the sequel?

• 59:35Speaker 04

  No, there's not. They won't let me. I know. Isn't it sick? It's really sick, especially for it to hire someone like me where it's like, all I do is I almost, I'm not kidding you. If you watch close enough, you'll see like 45 seconds ago, I almost revealed something that I straight up cannot say. And I had to like cut myself off and move on. No, I will say this. This is what I've been giving people that I can tell you. People in my life who have asked. I am very skeptical of remakes and sequels. I overall think Hollywood is trending towards a place of unoriginality that is making me quite annoyed. So I read this script with a sense of skepticism and maybe came in with a bit of a feeling of like this, this is gonna have to be extra good to convince me. And as a fan of the original, it was that good. It is like worth it. I understand why they're doing it. I

• 1:00:17Speaker 04

  feel really good about where it picks up and how the story develops. Eileen Brosh McKenna, who wrote the first in this one, really knows what the fuck she's doing. And I think, I think if you're a fan of the original, you'll be really, really happy with this one.

• 1:00:29Kylie Kelce?

  That's very exciting. I'll take that. That feels, that feels good.

• 1:00:33Speaker 04

  Good.

• 1:00:34Kylie Kelce?

  I like that. I'm very much looking forward to it. I cannot thank you enough for coming on Not Gonna Lie today. You can watch Caleb's hilarious standup special, Model Comedian, streaming now on HBO and HBO Max. You are incredible. Again, I am so, so grateful that you came on today. And I'm so looking forward to continuing to watch everything that you do and cheer you on and obviously see you in The Devil Wears Prada 2.

• 1:00:59Speaker 04

  Thanks, dude. Thank you for having me. And likewise, it's a real treat. Thank you very much.

• 1:01:03Kylie Kelce?

  Absolutely. And go Birds, but also go Chiefs.

• 1:01:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, both in many ways. And let's just mend that. Let's mend that now. We're shaking on it.

• 1:01:11Kylie Kelce?

  Thank you.

• 1:01:13Kylie Kelce?

  And that's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie. You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Caleb on my YouTube channel on More Shit Monday. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode. Follow Not Gonna Lie on all social media, at NGLwithKylie. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Not Gonna Lie is a Wave original brought to you by Peppa Pig. Let's jump in. Thanks again for tuning in.

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